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Red Pill ExampleHere's a whole mess of relevant quotes from Patrice O'Neal's Black Phillip Show. (self.TheRedPill)

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I spent a couple weeks listening to the show and typing this up. Had some free time.

This was only from a couple episodes.


You got to understand, this is not her fault. What women do when they pressure you to marry them is not their fault. That’s what the fuck they do. So you have to dismiss what she wants, dismiss that whole thing where she wants to get married, because that’s what she wants to do anyway. But them saying they want to get married is like me saying I want to eat or wake up and look at something. That’s what that marriage thing is to them. What you have to do is reestablish your shit. One thing you have to do is you have to be able to take an “L”. Not afraid to take a loss to get your point across. So when she gives you that marriage ultimatum, if you look like you’re sweating, and you’re blinking, and you’re nervous about her leaving, she will take advantage of that.

 

Stop having negotiations with women. Stop trying to give her things to make her happy so that she lets you go out to fuckin hunt and let you go out to drink. You have to say “look sweetie, this is how it is” and you have to be ready for her to walk out of your life.

 

One thing women need from you that if you don’t give them they fuckin flap around like a fish out of water, is emotions. If she goes “I gotta get married! And I don’t want you to go hunting!” You go “Oh sweetie we’re not gonna get married for a while, I don’t know when. And I’m going hunting right now. I’ll see you later. You don’t have to be here if you don’t want” And kiss her on the check and be really cold because now her emotions have to eat on themselves.

 

She’s not walking out of your life unless you’re crushed. They never walk out if you’re indifferent on the couch. If you go “goodbye, nice talking to you, I love you but you have to live your life” That bitch will not take a step. Trust me.

 

(Advice given in response to a caller who says his wife only fucks him once a year) Nothing helps a marriage more than cheating. Nothing makes it easier. When you’re cheating there’s nothing she could say that would upset you after you get home. You have to say to yourself “you can’t love a woman, like a woman loves you. You can’t give energy to her the same way she gives energy to you. You can’t go booby-bear, you can’t hold her hand because she’s holding yours. It’s a distance thing. Stay gone for a couple of days, have other things to do besides worry about how much she loves you and you love her. You gotta get a life. You don’t have a life if you’re worried about going to a bachelor party and cheating.

 

They don’t want what they can have. And right now I think she has you.

 

Most loser women, all they have to barter is their pussy. They don’t have anything else. Men have so many other things to barter when it comes to the sex game, and the relationship game. If you’re an ugly motherfucker with a hunchback and you walking with some type of swagger, everybody could be laughing and going “look at this hunchback motherfucker” but a woman might go “how could this motherfucker with a hunchback look like he should be fuckin’ me?” There are other things that make us attractive to women. Initially there’s only one thing that makes women attractive to us, and that’s fucking them. And then it builds from there. But they like us more than fucking us on the front end. We like to fuck them on the front end and then go “wow, she’s kind of cool” on the back end. So basically, you gotta understand that when you’re meeting these women, essentially, they’re losers. She has to get something out of her pussy, she has to get dinner, she has to get a movie. How can she function if she doesn’t get something out of what she has? Our bodies are not as important to us as their bodies are. So when you’re taking her out to dinner and spending time with her, you gotta understand that that’s her way of fucking you. If you take her out 5 times, she fucked you 5 times. And you haven’t fucked her yet. So basically what you’re doing is driving down a one way street, behind this bitch. And you can’t pass her. So if you find yourself getting stuck behind a chick on a one way road, you turn off the first available exit, and you get the fuck off that road. You can’t let a woman whore out your time.

 

She’s going to try and gradually take your manhood by small steps and before you know it you’re sitting in the shoe store carrying her bags. You gotta first decide what you want out of this and if what you want is sex, then that has to be obvious. And if that’s not what she wants, fine, there will be somebody else.

 

Fundamentally, it’s the nature of women to bitch you up. That always happens; the degree may be different from woman to woman, but it’s all about bitchin you up. And it’s organic. You cannot be angry at how they do it with such ease. It’s like brushing your teeth. Your manhood is constantly under siege, and you can’t be mad at them. It’s like being mad at a fuckin snake for biting you. If you got a rattlesnake in your hand and you’re like “this rattlesnake is the shit” and it bites you, you can’t be mad at the motherfucker. You just have to go “shit, it’s a snake”.

 

Women have no skills to get what they want, so they hope what they want just kind of walks in. What gives you the balls to sit and wait for Mr. Right? What skills do you have to get Mr. Right?

 

You have to take away what she wants (emotions) until you get what you want (sex)

 

She’s only powerful if you let her be powerful.

 

The amount of time it takes for her to pussy you up is the amount of time she sticks around to enjoy you being a pussy. And then she’s going to leave you.

 

(In response to a man calling in claiming his wife wants him to be a stay at home husband) All a woman has in this world is that her man is cool. For the sake of your marriage, do not get put in a position where she thinks you aint cool. If she can’t look at you like “my man is the shit” then your marriage is over. How can you look at him like he’s the shit if he’s a stay at home fuckin’ dad?

 

My girl said the other day “can you get off that pimp shit for once?” I go “if I do bitch, then what?” You need an opening to fag me up. Don’t let her fag you up.

 

A woman wants to be protected by her man, and if she can punk you up, how are you going to protect her against another man? She’s always looking to upgrade the protection.

 

Do the whole dating thing once or twice at the most. Because you don’t wanna do what other motherfuckers don’t do. You don’t wanna be taking her out and other motherfuckers just fuck her in the mouth on the first date. You take her out on 1-2 dates, and then you start pushing up on her. If she don’t wanna give you no pussy, you don’t go “fuck you” this and that. You always love em’ and leave em’. Just give her a kiss on the cheek, pet her on the head and say “thank you sweetie, but I don’t feel comfortable going out with you 2, 3, 4 times because I’m a viral young man who needs to fuck. I wanna be spending my time fucking you, not trying to fuck you. I know I want you now, do you want me?” You gotta make her ante up.

 

A happy man means a happy woman; it trickles down from the man. A happy woman doesn’t mean shit. She doesn’t know how to be happy outside of how a man makes her feel. If a motherfucker is sitting there playing Xbox 360 and you say “I’m not gonna bother this motherfucker at all”. He could be on there for 8 hours and I’m just gonna exist in my own place for 8 hours until he wants to exist with me, you just earned yourself 8 hours of happy. That motherfucker would be like “sweetie, what do you need me to do? Cause you left me alone for that 8 hours I wanted to be left alone for.” You were selling me what I wanted to buy. I wanted to buy some Xbox 360 time and you gave it to me, so you know what? I’m going to figure out how to make you happy. I’m gonna tune into you now instead of tuning out because you tried to force me to spend time with you, or force me to love you, or force me to talk to you.

 

You should encourage the whore-ness in every bitch. The reason men don’t like women is because of what you put us through for pussy. The fact is, you could fuck me now but you’re not, just because of the “unwritten rule” of not fucking on the first date. If a chick says she doesn’t know me before we fuck, you don’t know me any better if we talk for a year.

 

Pussy is only valuable to whoever is fucking it at the time

 

Any woman is going to push your boundaries until you stop her

 

Women hate being in charge. They don’t wanna win, they want a winner. And that’s what women test constantly, is this nigga the winner that I think he is? So you come at us and try to make us losers. And what a loser is, is a guy that lets a woman make his happiness. If you look at any woman who’s in charge, she’s not happy. She thinks she has to be mean to be the boss, she’s copying what she sees bosses do. Women don’t want to run shit, it makes them miserable. They want a man who runs shit so she can go “that’s my man”.

 

I’m not going to bite my tongue, I’m going to tell you how I feel. Ok sweetie, I’m not going to take you out on another date. I’ve been on three dates with you. I know I want to fuck you, I don’t know if you want to fuck me, but I already know I want to fuck you. If you don’t wanna fuck me, figure it out, but were not going on anymore food excursions so I can do something for you and you’re not doing shit for me. The more you make me wait, the less it’s worth.

 

Women want to look at a guy and believe that he will lead them where they need to go. But they’re gonna test him like he’s a weak ass second mate.

 

If I’m the king of the castle and I marry a useless bitch, do you know what she becomes? The queen. She becomes the highest level that a woman’s title can be, in the world. Just by marrying me. I make you the best you can be. Now, if a queen marries a motherfucker that ain’t shit, what does he become? He’s the motherfucker who ain’t shit who married the queen.

 

Guys, the only thing you really have to deal with is the threat of rejection on the front end. If I see you on the street and I go “hey what’s up” and you go “I don't like you”, all you had to do was deal with that. And once you apply that to yourself you can go “you know what, I'm just gonna stick fly paper everywhere and see what sticks.”

 

Here’s the problem, I have to be a good lover, have decent money, have decent clothes, be funny, I gotta be happy. I gotta be everything, for your vagina. Now where the resentment comes in is now you look at me, like I’m supposed to love you like you love me, and you’ve don’t nothing loveable. Why should I love you because I’m loveable?

 

Let’s boil it back down to pussy. Let’s say we had something that women were after every second of the day. What if God has cursed us or blessed us, and every guy had 10 G’s in his pocket every day. And every day women were out there going “hello” and in our minds, were going “man this bitch is just after my 10,000 dollars” Now, just because she’s after our 10,000 dollars, does that make you special? Cause she’s chasing your 10 G’s? And here’s the thing about my 10,000 dollars, I’m better than my 10,000 dollars. Bitches are not bigger than their pussy.

 

You’re gonna love him before he loves you, because he’s showing you the best of him. You’re not showing the best of you before he gets pussy. Before he gets pussy, it’s him auditioning for pussy, so you’re getting the best of a guy. You’re gonna love him first.

 

Women are looking for a General they are comfortable fighting for. They’re looking for a guy they can believe in. Women really want to have no job, they want to support a man that they believe in.

 

Remember, a happy man is a happy everybody in his life.

 

Women have no skill to get what they want. You survey the land and go “he’s nice” and your skill is to stand there and go “I’ll get his attention so that he comes over with his skills.” Because you have no skills to get a man. Your skill is your beauty. You don’t know how to get a dude. You don’t choose a guy, a guy chooses you and you choose to go “yes”.


[–]rayyaal 180 points181 points  (8 children)

I always hear a faint whisper in my ears whenever dealing with a maladjusted plate: "Take an L..."

I like to believe it's Patrice speaking to me from the grave.

[–]Polishrifle 50 points51 points  (0 children)

That abundance mentality is no joke man.

[–]drqxx 78 points79 points  (5 children)

Whats take an L mean? (Yes please downvote but explain) EDIT: To take a Loss.

[–]PinkySlayer 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Take a loss. Basically know when to stop wasting energy and resources on a woman, chalk it up as a lesson and a "loss" in the game, and move the fuck on.

[–]pfffft_comeon 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Sunk cost fallacy in action the term is loosely related to boat ownership. You are going to sink money into one of those things. The more money you sink into it the more you think 'i can't get rid of it now after I put all this money and time into it' even though if you sold it you would obviously come out ahead financially since you will just have to drop even more money on it in the future.

[–]gmflag 20 points21 points  (0 children)

read the first paragraph. it says take a loss. be willing to take a loss to prove a point.

[–]Pedrizzle 73 points74 points  (0 children)

"Patrice was so funny he HAD to die!" - Chris Rock

[–]eylizo 123 points124 points  (6 children)

TRP in a nutshell. Good shit man, this is sidebar worthy IMO.

[–]JorixKienu 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I agree, it is sidebar worthy.

Gentlemen, if any of you agree (adding this to sidebar), please append a one-line here (to OP, not to me), as a kind of reminder/vote for moderators to consider. Thanks.

[–]Guffbrain 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Sidebar worthy.

A lot more engaging than a some of the meandering diatribes.

[–]BRENDORVEGAS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Side bar this please. Black Phillip is akin to the Apostle Paul.

[–]truthfully_red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sidebar worthy. Hopefully more quotes to come, I love it.

[–]thisishowibowl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's side bar worthy but clean up the poor grammar.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Favorites:

"This girl just wants my $10,000"

"She didn't choose you; you chose her and she chose to say 'yes'"

[–]LordThunderbolt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I laughed mad hard at the 10K bit.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Great collection of Patrice quotes.

Classic bit from Patrice:

Men like to fish. And sport fishing is different from catching fish for food. You just get it, you catch it, you know, you show your friends...'cause you want them to know that you catch fish. You take a couple of pictures so you can show people the fish that you have the ability to catch...and then you RELEASE it back into the water.

But a lot of women in here, you have boyfriends or husbands; you were fish that jumped back on the boat, and just was flapping, looking at me like "Hi...I was wondering if you were gonna be fishing here next week!"

"Like...yeah...for OTHER fish. Get off my boat!"

"Is that how you treat ALL the fish?!"

You be like, "Oh, goddamn. Nope, I'm sorry sweetie, you the last fish I ever want to be with".

Now you're stuck. Stuck with the last fish, who was loving you, and fighting hard to be on your boat. Then she got comfortable. And now instead of doing this she's like, "So...we've been together for like, a year now, why do you still have a boat?"

You be like, "So whatcha trying to say I can't catch fish no more?"

"WHY DO YOU NEED TO CATCH A FISH???"

"Because if I lose my ability to catch fish, then you're not gonna find me sexy no more. So you gotta smell fish on me, so that you know I can catch fish...so you can ACT RIGHT.

[–]TN_UK 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. Thanks Sir

[–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (62 children)

Patrice was the most redpill aka square pimp out there. His game was strong. He even advocated swinging to separate what she is from who she is. Kill your ego.

[–]soadaa 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Separate what she is from who she?

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (7 children)

What she is is a woman with holes to be filled, hypergamous, etc

Who she is is the woman he loves

[–]soadaa 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Ahh, I see. I can agree with him. I've done non-monogamy in my last 3 relationships and trp has only reinforced my decision to continue doing so.

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[–]ovrsurge 7 points8 points  (3 children)

My tentative take on this is that if women are going to sleep around regardless of what 100k dudes on the internet want, than you might as well take advatage of the fact to fulfill your needs/ goals if thats what they are. If you dont then the trp philosophy says that someone else will.

Trp also seems to advocate mildly against ltr-ing women in general. If you take the overall opinion of women in here as a fact and push it through the filter of red flags then it would be a very rare woman who is still worth your time.

Im not exactly a dedicated member. I come here because its one of relatively few sources of this sort of ideology on the internet. Have to experience all sides of the conversation to have a worthwhile opinion imo.

So other members might have more coherent or accurate things to say.

[–]wanderer779 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I am in the same boat. About 70% of the time TRP annoys the hell out of me. But if you go out and consume mainstream media you get even more disgusted and come running back here. There is just so much lying and bullshit everywhere else about all of these topics, we have to have a refuge we can go to to talk freely.

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[–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of the main points. Just the way it is interpreted by a lot of the guys here.

[–]soadaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well I guess the easiest way to put it would be having a long term plate.

I don't expect the girl to stay around, and let any girl I get with I would never expect my dick to be the last they ever have. So why bother with monogamous LTR. She's not yours it's just your turn, so why bother making that turn exclusive?

I get to have my own fun, I get to have 3/4somes. I still get to retain the emotional positives of having a ltr while having the sexual fun of new partners.

It also keeps some dread game going when they knew you can have other chicks (especially if you've fucked someone they think is hotter)

I also retain my emotional distance. I just recently broke things off with my recent gf due to family bs and I'm feeling just fine.

But at the of the day, it's just something I'm drawn to naturally and I don't do it for degrading reasons or feel guilty doing so. I do my own thing and I welcome girls to come with and tell them I'm not being exclusive, so I encourage them to be little sluts because they want to deep down.

[–]sd4c 22 points23 points  (6 children)

The only thing I didn't like was that he ended up with a single mom as a gf. A hot one, yes- but a single mom. He complained about "having another man's sperm" walking around his living room.

A guy with Patrice's insane degree of knowledge and good fame should have been able to pull a girl with no kid. I can't stand chicks with kids, I trust them about as much as you trust a girl from a 3rd world country- does she really love me for me? Or see me as a green card/ATM card for her bastard child?

[–]pfffft_comeon 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Ok? You can not practice what you preach. A cuck calls in and he basically tells the guy to.run with what he likes. The cuck admits he likes it. Dont save him, he dont want to be saved.

Patrice dropped knowledge. Period. Dont like him for whatever personal decision he made? Fine. He went in with his eyes open. That is what TRP is about. Its not a cult or a procedural document, its about understanding the world so you understand the consequences of whatever choices you make.

Do you, but go in with your eyes open and have an understanding so you can prepare yourself for the consequences.

I swear some of yall are too caught up in doing the "right" thing. There is utility in multiple choices and you are an individual who places different value on these choices.

Do your personal cost/benefit analysis- just dont ever think you can get away with doing anything consequence free.

[–]rockymountainoysters 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The third world girl and the first world girl are both using you for something. The specifics of what they're using you for don't make them fundamentally different. AWALT

[–]sd4c 5 points6 points  (2 children)

A great point. One wants a green card. The other wants my 401k and 18 years of wage-slavery. Either way, Briffault's Law:

"Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit"

[–]rockymountainoysters 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Makes the third world girl look like the better option though, don't it?

[–]sd4c 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would, except nothing's stopping her from going after the cash as well if her girl-game is good enough from being Westernized

[–]SmilingWatermelon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Listen to his story about how she captured him. Tbh he could have done Better if he wasn't so Damn fat. In his circumstances I still think he did well. Especially since she would taste his urine to check is blood sugar levels. I don't think ill ever meet a girl who would do that shit for me lmao

[–]sensitiveduck 6 points7 points  (45 children)

that's the only thing I strongly disagree with. I think it has to be because he's black and they're more promiscuous, r-selected. There's a reason the word cuck has become such a strong meme in current year. Whites are k-selected

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (27 children)

Fair enough. It does take a strong hand and a certain personality to wife up a ho. In the context of swinging, he could handle it. The idea of her getting strange on the side would cause him to next.

He said as much. If his woman was submissive and provided for his needs absolutely, that's not a typical cuck situation.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 49 points50 points  (25 children)

There's a lot of extra nuance in it, stuff that often gets completely missed by someone categorically against swinging.

If somebody is against it, doesn't feel right in his gut, then good for him I say. No problems with that. What I think is crazy though is when a man's against swinging because he doesn't want to be seen as a cuck. You catch the difference, it's subtle but all-important. The first guy's locus of control is inside him, the second example the locus is outside - how will I be judged?

After listening to Patrice rant for a while you kinda get to understand how his mind worked. This bastard was ALWAYS on the lookout for new ways to mindfuck himself, to expand his mind when it comes to women. It came from all the early life misery, he didn't want to be "that guy" any more and so he was going to test all the limits, including his own ones - for example breaking through that personal barrier where you love a girl and then have to watch some other man fucking her. That's technically classic cuckoldry, but who gives a fuck; it is almost an experiment at that point, done for pure science, on a live specimen that happens to be your own self.

Then there's a chance you walk away from the experiment enlightened and made permanently more powerful than before, because of the self-knowledge gained.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (7 children)

It's an interesting point to make about male-female relationship dynamics. There are men that can absolutely control women up to the point women sell their pussy. How is it these men can have mastery over women? What mental frame must such men establish? If a man can love and not let that love dictate his actions, he's a master over himself.

The pimp operates in a permanent state of abundance. The name of the game is cop and blow.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (6 children)

The pimp is battle hardened and can accurately value women at their true worth...almost zero.

True commodities

[–]RobertCarraway 12 points13 points  (5 children)

The pimp is battle hardened and can accurately value women at their true worth...almost zero.

It's fair to say they are overvalued. No need to jump the shark.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I'll call em the way I see em but thanks for exposing a hint of white knight

[–]1Soarinc 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Either I'm drunk as shit, or this sentence didn't make any damn sense.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I didn't get it either tbh

[–]LordThunderbolt 4 points5 points  (9 children)

Listen man, you guys are nuts. The halo effect had never been any more apparent than when you people defend Patrice and his ways. The man didn't fully practice what he preached because he was a weak fat fuck. A fat fuck with good understanding of the game but still a fat fuck. Years of low self esteem and terrible experiences with women don't just go away. He might have learned all that stuff over time but he sure as hell didn't apply all of it, out of weakness. No man is perfect, but let's not stand here and worship the guy like he was on top of everything he did.

There's nothing to learn watching another guy fuck a girl you're committed to. If you understand the game, hypergamy, the sexual market etc, then you just shouldn't be in LTRs at all. He was a cuck, regardless of how are he was, he was still a cuck.

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 8 points9 points  (1 child)

At the end of the day, we don't give a shit if you personally like Patrice or not. For example, I like him, he's fucking funny. But that doesn't matter either.

The insight he makes available to you, on the other hand, such as "separate what she is from who she is" constitutes the priceless fruit of long experience. What she is, is a bitch - it's her animal nature to fuck other men and not ask you how you feel about it. Who she is, is your beloved girlfriend. You see the separation? It's fucking horrifying, but you gotta do it.

You can scoff at these ideas and ignore em' at at your own peril, but I'm confident in time you'll arrive at the same conclusions that a fat diabetic fuck you really don't find very likeable came to with his women way back when. That's the nature of the Red Pill, like it or not, it's a little like physics in its inexorable real world manifestation.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the point. The window version of TRP is limited to the mechanics of the game. Patrice took it behind that to what drove the mechanics.

When you can separate ego from how you interact with a bitch, you've won. A lot of the dudes on here will never understand that though, sadly.

[–]ArtTheRussian 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Listen to his stuff dude he explained why. He didn't want to love his girl and having another dude fuck her cements his view on women, they're just things to use and the second they stop being useful you get tossed, it wasn't a sexual thing for him he wanted to properly hate his girl so she could never threaten him with other dick. In the end he gained control of the relationship.

[–]LordThunderbolt 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You don't need to watch another dude fuck your chick to have abundance mentality. That was a beta cuck move no matter how he frames it.

[–]ArtTheRussian 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Naw it transcends abundance mentality, he did it so he properly values his time vs a womens body. its so that at any point if she tries to test him or come incorrectly at him he can see her for what she is, and she can never use her body to corner him in any way. its a way for patrice to dominate his relationship.

[–]LordThunderbolt 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Keep telling yourself that u cuck. It doesn't take a guy to fuck your wife to have personal boundaries. It was a fetish for him. You can attempt to reframe it how u like for your daddy Patrice, but if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, guess what? Its a goddamn duck.

[–]ArtTheRussian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hey dick head I'm not into it just explain his philosophy behind you closeted cuck. No one gets that angry over legit nothing. Good luck with your cheating girl if you even have one lmao

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. Are we going to start seeing posts like "my gf fucks other dudes while I watch. Jokes on her, I don't even care!!". This sounds like bad satire but it's what some of the above comments sound like

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

This just sounds crazy. Getting your gf to bang another dude is just a dumb thing to do. You won't walk away stronger. Boundaries are important

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I think it boils down to me as being so detached that you have no reason to be jealous of her, jealousy is where she thinks she has negotiating power over you. By showing you don't feel/act jealous she is powerless.

I am in no way advocating this approach, In my mind its more than jealousy due to another man fucking my girlfriend, its deeper, he essentially is invading my space, so what if I get to fuck his girlfriend and invade his space, I won't yield mine to him since I owe him nothing. Also diseases, I refuse to knowingly touch another man's semen or anything his dick has touched recently(indefinite period of time).

[–]Guffbrain 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I can imagine for Patrice it was another way to establish, beyond any debate, that he can walk away from his woman at any time. It seems like sharpening his sword even further. Taking away any bargaining chips that she might ever try to play.

"Well maybe I'll go out and fuck somebody else."
"Bitch, I TOLD you to do that. I've watched you do that. You've watched me do that. You have zero emotional claws to fuck me up with. I know you love me. So the choice is yours. You can stick around, or you can go. I. don't. give. a. fuck."

How can she possibly come back from that?

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Spot on, and one other angle to think about: it's almost like a shit test Patrice threw for himself. Just to see if he's "got it", or if in fact she's already got him. That's smart, because when it happens and she's "got you" you're usually the last guy to know. And all that time, while the guy's clueless, she's silently drifting away and outta control...

I have a feeling though that he wasn't doing it out of advanced smarts, it was more like a refined sadomasochism. A little self-torture that is sometimes necessary to keep away from falling into those old blue pill thought-traps.

[–]triclops41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It seemed more like he was doing it to kill any shreds of Oneitis. He'd see her as just another woman after that.

[–]sd4c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By showing you don't feel/act jealous she is powerless

Yep, no LTR, no sad face when she cheats

[–]rigbed 16 points17 points  (15 children)

Is this a fact or are you assigning scientific terminology to trends you've observed?

[–]RobertCarraway 0 points1 point  (14 children)

This is not /u/sensitiveduck's original idea. This is scientific terminology applied to trends that many have observed. As you can imagine, politically incorrect ideas like this are totally rejected by establishment academics; similar to how they reject differences in sex. We all know whether or not it's PC has nothing to do with it's truth content.

HBD chick doesn't talk about K-selection much, but she is a good guide to start taking you down this rabbit hole.

[–]rigbed 2 points3 points  (13 children)

So does this make black men more alpha? They've bred themselves into jacked mule dicked alphas by being r-selected?

[–]Entrefut 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Demographics, demographics, demographics. Even in Patrice's show there is a guy who is, at a glance, the complete opposite of Patrice. Pretty sure his name was Jeoffrey. This guy had a totally different approach to women because his demographic was different. Patrice has serious control over girls with any kind of alpha widow/ dady problems. Whereas the other guy had amazing game with women who didn't necessarily have those problems, but instead had things like religion, spiritualism, energy, etc. guiding their lives. Patrice taps into his women by having a stoicism that is incredible, while the other guy was very smooth, clever and had more of a spiritual approach to game. Eventually they boil both their game down to the same thing, but the difference is that their presentation of game was different based on the types of girls they wanted to attract.

One guy is appoaching one demographic, one guy is approaching another, but both have the same underlying game.

[–]sd4c 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You should have seen Jeoffrey sputtering when Patrice asked him about whacking off.

"I... I don't like to talk about that..."

[–]Entrefut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn't saying he was perfect, I just said he performs well in his demographic. Jeffrey Gurian is an old mf and he probably got more in the habit of jerking off as he got later into his 50s. Plus if I was in the same room as Patrice and he tried to bring that shot up, I'd probably sputter too. The last thing I want is an image of that man reaching around his belly to tug one out...

[–]sd4c 2 points3 points  (4 children)

R-selected isn't alpha. It's highly dependent upon there being a surplus of resources around. The female doesn't care as much about finding a good K-selected partner, she prioritized "hot" and "confident" because if he doesn't stick around it's no big deal, Daddy Govt will pay.

It's fragile, because it depends upon that safety net. Being K-selected yet having your shit together physically is the optimum road, because you can quickly go R-selected at any time. The guys in your example of the black community, R-selected guys, they can't go K-selected fast at all, if ever. Once the welfare checks dry up, the free abortion clinic closes, and chicks shut their legs and look for a guy that can pay the rent and buy groceries- R-selected guys end up like the impoverished guys in India and Africa- lonely and forced to fuck each other.

[–]stawek 2 points3 points  (3 children)

It isn't just welfare.

Black community 50+ years ago really lived in a racis environment. We have some racism nowadays, but back then a black guy could be noe more than a foreman somewhere, and most likely a labourer or a janitor.
It was simply impossible for blacks to compete on the economical grounds because of this glass ceiling. If they were all janitors, then black women chose the ones who looked the best. On top of that, the only way to get richer was crime, so the gangsta culture was born eventually.

Nowadays racism is nothing like then, but the culture is still poisoned by the past. It will take a few generations to return to norm.

[–]sd4c 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Income is, and always has been, strongly correlated with raw g-factor of IQ. Human biodiversity explains why Asians earn more money and score higher than white people on the SAT.

Hint: it's not racism

[–]Spiderman228 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nigerians tend to do extremely well in the school atmosphere.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That mule dick shit is bogus. Blacks tend to be show-ers, whites tend to be growers.

[–]RobertCarraway 0 points1 point  (1 child)

[–]rigbed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This sounds like a cuck's dream come true

[–]pfffft_comeon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

White dudes are the ones looking up all the cuck porn.

And white girls are all whores just as much as black chicks. You need the red pill son.

[–]southernkings 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Make sure you hear the story about how he went to prison for being falsely accused of rape. I think it's on YouTube as "The Greatest Story Ever Told on Radio" or similar.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That shit is fucked up and really affected my view on life. I'm respectful, but I don't pussyfoot around with my friends anymore when I tell them what's really happening in their relationships/dating/plates.

You have to use terms they can understand, but goddam that was some heavy shit.

[–]adh247 6 points7 points  (1 child)

And also listen to his song called "it's raining stuff"

[–]doyoumrjones99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also his follow up hit "Rock Coat".

[–]1empatheticapathetic 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I'm a big standup fan but never really got into Patrice until after he died unfortunately. All these quotes are absolute gold and they're from such a place of chill, confidence and power. It's crazy how on point he is and where his priorities are (regarding women). Great post.

[–]Rugnardl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well if you've ever heard him, it's definitely not chill. It's furious, as he puts it.

[–]boxer95 16 points17 points  (2 children)

These along with the black Phillip show takeaway posted by another member will be really helpful, thanks op!

[–]ZR6X 8 points8 points [recovered]

Wish I could have done every episode but I just don't have that kind of time.

[–]EatmyShorts59 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Man, I've listened to every episode of Black Phillip multiple times.

And never wrote any notes...

On my next run through, I got you TRP.

[–]ser0402 47 points48 points  (5 children)

This is one of the best posts I've read in this sub in a long ass time. There's no anger, or anything like some of these "alpha" guys in here try and pass off as TRP. This actually made me go "wow, this shit seems a lot easier if you just think 'well this just ain't worth the effort, I'll see you later, no hard feelings".

[–]Dystaxia 17 points18 points  (0 children)

One thing I really like about Patrice and these gems is that there is no anger or contempt. It's just very matter of fact without blame or bitter feelings. He got it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

There's no anger, or anything like some of these "alpha" guys in here try and pass off as TRP.

Patrice was actually really angry and that was his biggest division with Dante. He was fat and unattractive for most of his life so he developed a serious anger towards women and you can feel it if you listen to the show. He was also a huge asshole to a lot of people, including lots of women.

A lot of the "game" he runs only works on really ghetto girls. His style of talking simply would not work on upper-class white women. You need to take his principles into account but disguise the alpha a lot more to get white women.

[–]WillyFistergasch 3 points3 points [recovered]

He'd always point that out in the show's. Patrice hunted "bears" while Dante would go after deer. All about knowing your wheelhouse.

[–]The_DogeWhisperer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He loved his fat girls. RIP Patrice.

[–]ser0402 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I've watched some of his bits he's definitely got some rage, but I meant the OP's synopsis of the points don't seem to have anger behind them. Just calmly though out points.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Here’s the problem, I have to be a good lover, have decent money, have decent clothes, be funny, I gotta be happy. I gotta be everything, for your vagina. Now where the resentment comes in is now you look at me, like I’m supposed to love you like you love me, and you’ve don’t nothing loveable. Why should I love you because I’m loveable?

This one really cracked me up, it's so true. Every year passes by where my friends and I improve and add to ourselves. And we just keep meeting the same type of Ho we've been meeting since senior year. It's as if god only makes that one type of chick and everyday you get a little less impressed by it.

[–]BenjiDread 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That was my favorite quote. The last line really brings it home. So many women expecting a man to love them for no reason other than their feelings for him.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not just that, he basically says women don't improve past their looks, some don't even take care of themselves (fat). While he's busting his ass and improving. Then one day the pendulum swings and men realize they've done all this shit and women haven't.

You simply can't value them as much as they value you, which is how it should be.

[–]Nate_Bronze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's as if god only makes one type of chick and everyday you get a little less impressed by it

Hence the term "basic bitch".

Most women are hopelessly basic.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 9 points10 points  (0 children)

[–]kaane 45 points46 points  (2 children)

He was a perfect example of a MGTOW to me. He knew the true value of pussy and honestly said that he needed it.

Everyman needs a woman. It is programmed into our genes. The ones who deny this are the ones who have to pay a premium price for it or can't get it at all.

There are hundreds and thousands of charlatans out there who will tell you the secrets of "getting any woman you want". But on the expense of what ? Buy their book first, and then go out spend many nights in bars chasing sluts, change you lifestyle, buy new clothes, have a fancy haircut. All that money, all that time and energy.

Patrice on the other hand puts it very simply.

First be a man.

Second, do not pay a higher price to a woman more than she is worth.

And lastly, if she causes problems, just next her.

May he rest in peace

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He was a perfect example of a MGTOW to me.

How is he a MGTOW? He had a long term girlfriend.

[–]kaane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, he was in a LTR, and his GF had a child from earlier.

I remember listening to one of his interviews where he talks about his GF and his GF's daughter. How he loved that girl, watching her grow and spending time with her etc.

The point is, having a woman does not make you less a man. He likes to keep his GF, and he can manage to keep her He can keep her emotions under control, he never gives his freedom to her, he keeps her where she needs to be. So in short he wants a good woman and he gets a good woman.

Being MGTOW is not about hating woman. If you blindly hate every women, how are you different than a feminist ? Yes most of the women may be bad in many ways, but in the hands of a true muscular a woman may turn to a nurturing woman.

Does that answer your question ?

[–]zboo1h 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The Black Phillip Show was tremendously influential and helpful for me when I was just becoming unplugged. It really soothed the rage to hear his philosophy about women. Every man should study his tapes if they seek a higher level of satisfaction with the women in their lives. RIP you big fat brilliant motherfucker.

[–]6MinutesTillMidnight 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Patrice was about as red as it gets. Shame he left us too early.

[–]xRedShadowx 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The Black Phillip show is like the old testament. Patrice's Cohost Dante went on to start the Beige Phillip show which is like the new testament. The Beige Phillip show is still going (228 episodes strong) and was the biggest contributor to my unplugging outside of TRP. Highly recommend

[–]sd4c 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kind of hard to find the early episodes

[–]Surfincloud9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reading this while listening to Beige Phillips. Definitely check that podcast out people.

[–]najaanwe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is a goldmine of distilled wisdom from Patrice, the compilation is much appreciated.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All a woman has in this world is that her man is cool.

Sometimes I feel like all the sexual strategy in the world can be summed up by this one sentence. Women want the cool boyfriend. Are you the cool boyfriend? You got her. No? You don't got her. Pretty simple.

[–]stephcurryftw 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The universe works in mysterious ways. I'm literally listening to the Black Phillip Show #13 then I see this post.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's called a coincidence. It's not very mysterious.

[–]AbdoulReborn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Amazing work jotting down all these quotes brother. You're doing us all a tremendous service with this right here.

[–]Yashugan00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I vote to create a new sidebar page with nothing but quotes. Bite-sized. There are bound to be small nuggets that people can relate to, if they're having problems swallowing the red pill wholesale or trying to figure out what this sub is.

[–]Sensei_Hensei 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She’s not walking out of your life unless you’re crushed. They never walk out if you’re indifferent on the couch. If you go “goodbye, nice talking to you, I love you but you have to live your life” That bitch will not take a step. Trust me.

fucking this

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Most loser women, all they have to barter is their pussy. They don’t have anything else. Men have so many other things to barter when it comes to the sex game, and the relationship game. If you’re an ugly motherfucker with a hunchback and you walking with some type of swagger, everybody could be laughing and going “look at this hunchback motherfucker” but a woman might go “how could this motherfucker with a hunchback look like he should be fuckin’ me?”

thanks for posting this man, I REALLY needed to hear this today.

[–]Polishrifle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Has anyone here read the book his girl putout about relationship advice? Curious to see if its worth reading. Apparently it's everything Patrice taught his girl in book form.

[–]H1GraveShift 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Patrice was the man so much knowledge. It's a shame some people will reject his genius because he happens to be black.

This alt-right shit is We Wuz Kangz! logic for unsuccessful losers.

You could just have this as the only post in the sub it is a perfect summary.

[–]casemodsalt -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Take your politics and racism somewhere else

[–]BowlOfCandy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Piss of with your moralizing, this is a sub for discussion.

[–]ntvirtue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well thought out and well written....good piece man!

[–]prodigy2throw 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Can you just send a link to the audio?

[–]1empatheticapathetic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Black Philip show on YouTube. And then check out his stand up material if you're into that type of stuff.

[–]AccountjustforTRP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Downloaded all of Black Phillip Show few days ago and listened to the first episode so far. This is some good shit

[–]SplitFigure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, man. It was a fantastic read.

Saved!

[–]rebelterp 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The show continued with Dante Nero. He hosts the Beige Phillip Podcast and has over 200 episodes. He continued the message after Patrice passed

[–]nicksnice 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It's not the same. Patrice had a gift that Dante lacks.

[–]Bigcasanova 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree , but Dante has had thousands of women in his life so he does still have a lot to offer .

[–]QruCiFiX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whoever takes the effort to remind people of my idol patrice o'neal, is a friend of mine. Dude has a lot if redpill-esque knowledge that even seasoned redpillers have no idea of. He is all about frame and the fact that if you let your girl fuck somebody else you should not get angry or jealous, so he was okay watching his chick get fucked by some other dude. "I am bigger than the body"

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Patrice also predicted Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt's divorce.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"Patrice predicted Angelina/ Brad's divorce."

What did he think would be the cause and the dynamics?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm not sure where he said it but he says something like, look at a picture of Oprah Winfrey and Stedman Graham, and it is clear that Stedman is the man in the relationship. Even though Oprah is powerful, Stedman is above her. Then if you look at a picture of Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt together, Brad doesn't look like the man.

[–]McLuhanSaidItFirst 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Y'know, I think I can see it.

The way it looks from here, Jolie stole Pitt away from Aniston; she snagged him. Pitt allowed himself to be snagged (he takes the feminine, receptive, responsive role relative to Jolie who has more dynamism, more agency: she's going for what she wants: another woman's man). Jolie took the initiative to hypergamize. Pitt went along with it. I think his alcohol and drug use have made him soft - or he was soft so he wasted his time like a high school stoner instead of maximizing his life purpose. Then when he attempts to be the Man, he can't pull it off because he's lost the 'masculine imperative", the Captain role in the family because he's drunk/high/whatever on the plane when he tries to discipline his kids. He is no longer an effective Captain. Briffault's Law takes effect, Jolie dumps him. AWALT.

[–]1Original_Dankster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this OP. Much appreciated.

[–]nabosch 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Anyone have any audio recording of this stuff?

[–]Mackland 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Here's a playlist on YouTube of all 13 episodes of The Black Phillip Show. Each one is about 2-2 1/2 hours so listen when you have some time to kill. This stuff is gold though, I've heard them all and still go back and listen a second and third time. Enjoy brother!

[–]Certifiedfamilylaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listen to it all and then do it again. I've listened to it around three times through

[–]stemgang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good stuff. I welcome you to transcribe some more anytime you can.

[–]Mudmen12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once the other episodes are done sidebar these bad boys

[–]pfffft_comeon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrice is the best at putting into words what internal game is. Listen, take him seriously, and profit.

[–]J_AsapGem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

" i knew she was going to do that, i'm magical at this shit "

[–]blackfin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patrice was the real deal, the true essence of TRP and Pimp rolled into one. I re-listen to Black Phillip whenever I travel because it's still so relevant and still so fucking good.

[–]LongElm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sidebar. This reeks of Patrice. Love it.

[–]DragonSh1t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As wise as Patrice is. I think he never got to fully understand how quick just a little bit of game will have such a synergistic affect with physical attractiveness. That probably only helped his understanding of women relative to where he was at. 1 and 2 dates to get "top" notch pussy? Man, one of our goofy asses can catch that on a random night.

[–]Pitmpm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Man you made my day i laughed hard xDDD

[–]RetiredTimeHo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Patrice is a prophet. I WISH someone had exposed me to this 10 years ago in high school.

If I ever have a son, I will listen to Patrice with him every week as soon as he turns 14.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Can someone explain where would this guy take his knowledge of women, and what makes him so reliable? He looks like no woman would touch him with a 10-foot pole and paid $10,000. Why would I bother listening to what he has to say?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Bill burr takes about him often. Comics have game, they can pull.

[–]pollodustino 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Just look at Jessica Rabbit.

"What do you see in that guy? (Roger)"
"He makes me laugh."

[–]efrp -1 points0 points  (1 child)

He was fugly, that's for sure. But he had some good advice to give nonetheless. Can't say I agree 100% with all of his "wisdom", but a lot of it does make sense.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bullshit makes sense most of the time, it's not a problem. The problem is when you put it to the test in practice.

[–]1Maverick1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Damn. Must've taken a long time to write that...you know you can just hit pause on the YouTube video and then share - you'll get a link which directs you straight to the time you want...

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I posted this quote on my insta last night:

"Women have no skill to get what they want. You survey the land and go “he’s nice” and your skill is to stand there and go “I’ll get his attention so that he comes over with his skills.” Because you have no skills to get a man. Your skill is your beauty. You don’t know how to get a dude. You don’t choose a guy, a guy chooses you and you choose to go “yes”."

One of the better looking girls at work (who is a HB7) said "I have a problem with a photo you posted". I knew which one. She said "it's such bullshit", to my reply of "so why do women all get dressed up with make up and all to get attention from guys only to shut them down?" .. Her reply was "why do you guys (males) dress up?" I said "if you read it properly you scope out the room and pick one out and try get him to talk to you only to shut him down when you see something better".

She has a lot of male friends and I'd say they're 90% orbiters, always liking her photos and commenting, so for someone to probably say that all she is is looks hurts her ego.

Edit: extra words

[–]dedicated2fitness -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

All of this is quite interesting and seems useful if fucking a lot of women is your primary goal. Applying the rules of negotiation and power to long term relationships is flawed though imo, it needs to be even more selfish. all of this assumes you're physically fit with adequate finance to support your activities. if not, fuck off and go work out/earn some money, no one respects a poor fat dude
if she's asking for marriage - you're already doomed, your goal is to maximize for number of people you fuck for a maximum amount of time per fuck at minimum viable intimacy(PFmAmI) not a "stable relationship". you probably want to diminish emotional contact and get out at this point while maintaining as much physical presence required so as to get a bad rep for "not being there" and seem like a good person on social media etc to your next potential live in mate. a bad reputation as someone who "doesn't want to commit" is not optimal and you always want to be optimal for your function(PFmAmI)
if you've gone out for more than 3 dates and haven't had sex yet and she isn't making puppy dog eyes at you, move on to the next one- you aren't interested in taking the hard way, you want easy relationships and to optimize for (PFmAmI). take her phone number and ghost while maintaining some contact on social media so you seem like a viable person who doesn't play games and for whom sex is an important part of the "relationship" you want.
Maximizing scarcity along with availability - you want to optimise for (PFmAmI), as a part of this drive you constantly play subtle power games but never engage directly. late night "booty calls", spontaneous dates good, hanging out with her friends/weekend activities that last for more than an hour bad(unless you want to fuck one of her friends). as part of your drive to maintain power in this relationship you must show that you're readily available for everything but simultaneously you're an important person with many possible and active bang buddies, she needs to lock it down while you have so many options to consider
tl;dr-in essence be more selfish without giving the appearance of being selfish + never engage directly in games of overt dominance but do engage in subtle power plays.
it is much easier to do this with someone who is of a lower economic strata than you, rich gals can always tempt you to stay for longer and stop considering (PFmAmI) by offering perks that you cannot overlook
if you try to do all of this for an extended period of time you are doomed to diminish though, move to another state/country ie change your social circle to avoid the trap of multiple people pinning down your behaviour simply through the power of the grapevine.

[–]sd4c 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Asperger's is one helluva drug

[–]efrp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

LOL seriously. Too many aspies with too much analysis on here