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Duke opens one of the first male Re-Education and Feminization Camps in the US (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by G_Petronius

In the endless war against masculinity, which is a war against men, Duke University has now taken a leadership role. The celebrated university has decided to open a space where men are encouraged to self-flagellate, condemn their own masculinity and confess to the many sins that they personally and their gender collectivelly have committed and still commit against womankind[1]:

The Duke Men’s Project, launched this month and hosted by the campus Women’s Center, offers a nine-week program for “male-identified” students that discusses male privilege, patriarchy, “the language of dominance,” rape culture, pornography, machismo and other topics.

There is, of course, no mention of anything that concerns the interests of men. Everything, absolutely everything, is about how men must behave in regards to women, both in the social and the sexual sphere. And just in case you're wondering whether this isn't just a dishonest summary by Heast, here's how the program describes itself[2]:

The Duke Men’s Project is a nine-week long, storytelling-based program starting Wednesday that aims to discuss masculinity, feminism and intersectionality. It hopes to “create a space of brotherhood fellowship dedicated to interrogating male privilege and patriarchy,” according to its Facebook page.

Of five descriptors here, four directly involve discussing how men treat women, and the fifth evidently must be interpreted in their light i.e. there is going to be no discussion of masculinity that doesn't involve women and female interests in some way.

Here's how the male feminists on the "leadership team" (I wonder how much leadership these low-testosterone ultra-betas can put together) describe the program[3]:

Junior Dipro Bhowmik, who sits on the leadership team, recently said the goal of the Duke Men’s Project is for male students to “critique and analyze their own masculinity and toxic masculinities to create healthier ones.”

Alex Bressler, another junior on the leadership team, said the program would help men “proactively deconstruct our masculinity.”

Yes, these people are sufficiently far gone that they see no problem in leading a program where people are asked to deconstruct their own identity. The idea that you should take a person and shame and humiliate them into believing they are not who they are, don't believe what they believe and don't want what they want is a classic tool of totalitarianisms[4] and cults[5].

As always, a thick dose of doublespeak is employed to hide, misdirect and rationalize the disgusting purpose of this camp. Even then, the project's very own supporters have it so clear in the back of their mind what this project is, that they feel they need to pre-emptively dismiss the association[6]:

The Men’s Project is novel because it provides males a space (a safe space even) in which they can discuss their own gender. It is not a reeducation camp being administered by an oppressed group in the service of the feminization of American society, but rather a space by men and for men.

I'm even wondering if an infiltrator of ours hasn't gotten on the Duke's student paper editorial board and snuck that sentence in there. It's almost too precise and self-aware a description, whereas feminists would generally completely avoid the thought of what they really are.

Regardless, be assured of this prediction: it's gonna get worse before it gets better. Progams like this will spring up like festering mold in most colleges, especially the more prestigious and media-centric ones. Much like "consent classes", in many cases they'll be made mandatory after being snuck in as innocently optional. They will never even recognize the existence of male issues if not in a perfunctory way, always and only for the sole purpose of dismissing them as relatively unimportant beside feminine imperatives. If you're in college, keep your eyes and ears over, steer clear and protect yourself; they are coming for your balls.

[1] [3] https://heatst.com/culture-wars/duke-offers-men-a-safe-space-to-contemplate-their-toxic-masculinity/

[2] http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/09/deconstructing-masculinity-duke-mens-project-aims-to-facilitate-discussions-of-male-privilege-and-patriarchy

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp

[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnection#Policy

[6] http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/09/engendering-gender-harmony


[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 213 points214 points  (58 children)

Another good find /u/G_Petronius ...

We should be honest here though, no "men who are actually men" are going to be signing up for this. It's going to be marginal men, neckbeards, male feminists and the like who are poor examples of men and masculinity to begin with. This is really just their way of trying to make an excuse for their own failure. Cause being a grown-ass man is hard ... and many would prefer to give up than to persevere.

To quote Archwinger: TRP is about building powerful men. There is a reason it is hard, a reason many men turn back, or prefer the comfort of the blue pill fantasy. What we are saying at TRP about gender dynamics and sexual strategy is not completely unknown outside of here, but when you put it all together and look at it as one, it becomes a very, very inconvenient truth.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 190 points191 points  (36 children)

This is how loser men compete. It's their own form of masculine competitiveness.

They play along with shit like this to curry favor with women because they can't generate real attraction. Deep down inside, they hope that they really can change society and change the standards of manhood.

Because if they succeed at that (or at least find some women who adhere to those upside-down standards), they're the top dogs. They didn't have to work, change, grow, or excel. They just had to change the rules and now they're the big guys while former "real men" are the losers.

This is how loser men compete. It's their own version of snarky, competitive masculinity.

[–]kolluminko 47 points48 points  (0 children)

a thousand times this.

they are equivalent to the diehard, feminist hambeast who shames the high-smv woman for being feminine and shaving her armpits.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 43 points44 points  (11 children)

True story. I broke my arms a while back. Had to basically start from scratch lifting again, down to deadlifting my body weight and benching little 35 lb dumbbells like a girl. Had to rebuild the bone and cartilage slowly over time.

I could have said fuck it. I'm closer in age to 40 now than 30. Made excuses. Gave up. Tried to change the standards, like the "loser men" noted above. But I didn't. Took a long time, but I'm creeping back up towards 400 lbs on my deadlifts again.

Being a man: You either live it or you don't.

[–]Noolaw 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Man i feel you...i snapped my quad leg pressing 280kg...now i have to squat 60 kg from scratch now.

[–]icecow 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Calling you out. That's being foolish.

[–]Noolaw 12 points13 points  (3 children)

It was foolish. I went 25 kilograms over my max leg press. So i accept to the full maximum that was very foolish. I fully accept my mistakes and i own it 700000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%

[–]seahollow 8 points8 points [recovered]

Damn. I want your mindset to owning up to things.

[–]Ounumen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I do heavy squats. I can dump a squat, ya its embarrassing but better then a broken leg. Live and learn. Stick with it.

[–]Cultivated_Mass 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That was probably so gnarly when you tore that shit. Pics?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

...You broke, both your arms - what caused that to happen?

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just an accident while I was doing some outdoor recreational activities.

[–]ShitPsychologist -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He thought his mum was hot.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been lifting for 10 years, currently deadlift reps of my body weight and do DB incline reps with 35s.

I run marathons.

[–]CQC3 38 points39 points  (7 children)

I look at all this and think: something's gotta give. It's really hard to say where it will go. TRP is--rightfully so, a cesspit of negativity to this topic and fear mongering. Don't take that as a polemic though, it's merely how things balance because there are very few places to discuss this stuff. So naturally we accumulate a lot of the disdain in one place.

I have faith in men, and in our biology to overcome. Law 38, "Think as you like but behave like others" has never been more relevant in this context. This generation of dudes coming up may seem like a buncha cunts, but I think more of them are becoming wiser to this horseshit than we'd give them credit for. The manosphere has had quite the impact, a trickling down. I see it everywhere on the net, the terminology just randomly appearing even if a bit distorted. Now we got nerds calling other kids cucks and laughing about it, they parody their own nerdiness by pseudo pedestalizing women and taking on the role of the male savage for the lolz. It seems like just fucking around, but there's definitely a subversive quality to it that can grow.

Ironically it's a lot of the dorky internet savvy kids who are becoming wise to it. For now, it's weak sauce. They rebel in petty ways like memes and trolling, but trolling is a direct response to being inhibited in speech. The internet is only growing to be more intertwined in our lives, so memes have quite a bit of subversive power. Kids troll because they want to exercise the right to say bad things for no reason, people don't get that about the net when they cherry pick nasty tweets or shit like that to reinforce their worldview regarding feminism or some other dogshit.

Feminism is a sinking ship. It's just like any other fad, once it goes out of vogue and something else become more profitable to exploit, businesses will follow suit and then the whole thing collapses. Feminism can't exist without the powerful men who allow it.

[–]Wilreadit 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Feminism isn't sinking. It is upto us to sink it.

[–]papalima28 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Damn the torpedoes. Four bells, Captain Drayton, go ahead. Jouett, full speed. Sink those cunts!

[–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. Abort. Sink feminism. Not the cunts. We need them cunts. No homo.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is one of the reasons /r/the_fraternity exists as it offers men an alternative outlet.

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I was a kid two things happened

  1. we realized the war on drugs was bullshit
  2. we realized that it's OK to be gay

Today the war on drugs looks like it's winding down and fags are getting married.

Kid's today are (hopefully) learning that it's OK to be a man.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Instead of competiting for self-improvement to be the top dogs, they play a race to the bottom, literally becoming the underdog.

[–]RenaissanceMan79 6 points7 points  (0 children)

basically, they're trying to do what women did with feminism

[–]vagbutters 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's their own version of snarky, competitive masculinity.

It's quite literally a female strategy when you think about it. It takes away the hard work portion of the "game" and instead tries a Machiavellian method to twist reality one way or another. Doesn't work out for these overweight/scrawny cucks very well.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they can't generate real attraction

hey man, I DON'T even know how to generate real attraction yet. even catoring to women is wrong.

[–]angryguy4444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is so fucked up I can't believe it.

[–]kanyewost 0 points1 point  (0 children)

people are counter productive as fuck

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds almost like women trying to force people down to feel they got higher. While in truth they just fucked up their environment and will likely share some piece of the consequential shit pie.

[–]solidsnork 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are the equivalent of fat and ugly women trying change beauty standards to make men date them. They are the lower loser levels of human beings. We should be grateful for them as they only make better men look more attractive.

[–]TheBloodEagleX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly what the Healthy At Every Size obese women crowd are doing too; changing the standards so they don't have to work, lose weight, etc. They instead of trying to shame everyone for not finding them as attractive. They want men to ride the guilt train until they can compete with women that actually are objectively attractive.

[–]nostratic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Longtime lurker, and though it's late I wanted to offer some empirical confirmation for this comment:

This is how loser men compete. It's their own form of masculine competitiveness.

In one of her books, the linguist Deborah Tannen wrote that men tend to gain status by one-upmanship and women tend to gain status by what she termed one-downsmanship.

Men will boast about their bonus at work, the hot women they have sex with, their new record time on the treadmill, etc. The focus for men tends to be personal accomplishment and how it's more cool than the things other men have done.

Women, in contrast, tend to compete for who's suffering the most, who has the worst problems, etc. This includes fishing for compliments ("I'm so fat and ugly!") or playing the martyr ("I work so many hours at my job then come home to take care of husband and kids, and help with my aging parents"...).

So you're largely on the mark by saying that the guys who will attend these events and take them seriously are likely to be losers who've internalized a more typically female way of gaining status or attention by putting themselves down.

[–]benczi 0 points1 point  (2 children)

To be fair, changing the rules of nature would be a pretty big accomplishment, so if they do succeed, even partially, they deserve whatever they're getting.

[–]one_green_sock 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To be fair, changing the rules of nature would be a pretty big accomplishment,

Except they aren't changing the rules of nature, they are lying against the rules of nature to push their ideological agenda. And oh boy, lying to your self-nature and about the way things are is bad news and will only bring out suffering.

These guys are trying to override their unconscious desires/nature because their poor little weak egos cannot bear the indifference and ruthlessness of nature. These guys are pathetic and the anti-thesis of what a male should be. Their ego's want to live in a world that caters to their insecurities and ignores the harsh truths about life.

It seems as times are changing the simple minded are further distancing their ego and their unconscious minds, rather than interpenetrating the two. That is bad news because two different realities are trying to coexist simultaneously. They think their actions are morally right because "equality!" However a different story is really happening. They might say they are for the good of men and women, and equality, but really their nefarious motivations stem from else where.

[–]tallwheel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not possible. Millions of years of evolution guarantee it.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 30 points31 points  (4 children)

[–]Drbarke 16 points17 points  (0 children)

That was painful to watch on so many levels. What a miserable piece of shit and the gold standard of blind apologetic cuckoldry on so many levels I don't want to start listing them all. A shining example of what is wrong with society.

[–]haxurmind 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I did not need audio to identify the problem individual, memes are occasionally useful time savers.

[–]Geronimonimo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm going to need glasses to read that meme.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

The irony here is that every neckbeard, gamma and beta male feminist who signs up will be doing so in the subconscious hope that by ingratiating themselves to women that they will get laid!! Meanwhile the women who know these guys will be using them as emotional tampons and telling them what a pig Chad was last night and how glad she is to have a friend like them. The irony is just delicious, it reinforces the betas beliefs so he is effectively swallowing two blue pills daily and disappearing further down the rabbit hole. As a masculine man you seriously just need to laugh at this shit. When I read the article I was angry at yet another assault on masculinity but it is not. It is just a self help group for the most beta of men. Damn if I was at Duke I would sign up and go along for laughs, it will be better than any comedy show that Duke will put on. Can someone take one for the team and go along and tape the meetings? It would be comedy gold

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

they're honestly victims imho. The emotionally vulnerable and compromised men are looking for solace and guidance from these gender ideologues rather than finding positive masculine role models that can help guide them. Its just going to end up hurting them more in life and keeping them down. The women organizing this shit are not dating these guys, that's for sure. The guys they are dating are not attending these camps, and at most they pay lip service to feminist ideals in passing

[–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe it's part of the natural order for alphas to rule over herds of betas

[–]Hjalmbere 25 points26 points  (5 children)

You just wait CopperFox3c, they will make shit like this compulsory. I'm not kidding.

[–]maniclurker 8 points9 points  (2 children)

That's the big worry here. If some guys want to voluntarily brain wash themselves... more power to them. People deal with this world whatever way they can.

This shit is not for me. What recourse do we have if these social programs are made mandatory?

[–]wanderer779 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You either show up and pretend to agree or fight it. I'd probably go with option 1 cause it's easier. Some of my college friends had a get whitey type of class and they argued with the teacher all the time but they just wasted their breath.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the same way that the CIA had its hand in the rise of feminism, I have little doubt they're not a part of these programs as well. http://www.rense.com/general21/hw.htm

The trend is really quite terrifying when you consider it all in the big picture. Things like these male reeducation camps are not trivial outlying examples. It's part of a slow, methodical reconditioning of society where we will ultimately rule over ourselves. Crowd-sourced fascism. I really hope I'm wrong in the way I'm seeing it. But it's a little too concerning to brush off.

[–]feminists_are_dumb 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If I went to Duke, I might consider it. The obvious problem with feminist theory is that completely dodges what many non-feminist philosophers consider to be resolved issues. If you refuse to accede to the basic premises and assumptions of feminism and stick to what most today would call a hard-line "sexist" story that men are demonstrably better than women at just about every aspect of organizing a civilization, there's no evidence or logical thought process that they could offer up to disprove you. No matter which way you slice it, the argument that, reproduction of the species aside, women cannot survive without men but men can easily survive without women is pretty unassailable.

[–]NaughtyFred 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It been floating around subs like this one for a few days

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This isn't the sort of class one signs up for. This is what gets "recommended" as punishment by "independent oversight" groups.

So the next time a fatty accuses you of patriarchal sexism, this is what will be "suggested" you sign up for to signal an appropriate level of contrition.

[–]Cliffhanger_ 269 points270 points  (10 children)

"To critique and analyze their own masculinity and toxic masculinities to create healthier ones."

The irony; this is exactly what TRP is. We are deconstructing and analyzing the BP mentality in order to strategize a healthier, more masculine frame of mind.

[–]Endorsed Contributorthelandofdreams 100 points101 points  (4 children)

No! You have to do it the way women tell you!

obvious /s

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Yes, they know how to be a man, and what it takes to be one. Girls know everything.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

That's what all the TV shows portray.

Dumb husband smart wife. It's so funny!

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Fat lethargic incompetent dumb husband, hot capable smart wife. Roseanne was closer to reality, a bunch of stupid fat people arguing over absolute bullshit.

[–]2awalt_cupcake 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Girls are funny. Get over it.

[–]GodFan 42 points43 points  (1 child)

These bitches don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Funny how women are trying to analyze and define what masculinity is, when they will never even remotely understand it. To quell masculinity is like telling women to stop being vindictive, emotionally fragile harlots. You can't, it's innate.

[–]TRP_Lee_zard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, women are trying to solve problems they have created - first they were quietly saying what men they would like...some men listened, next they said it loudly and "proudly" that they want a partner, someone equal - more guys followed, later they demanded it via political parties and now they will force it - all the time being more and more unhappy, as "these are not the men they want"...and "where have all the good guys go"

[–]KKona23456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True "toxic masculinity" is the idea that in order to be a "real man" you have to "man up" and set aside all your feelings and desires for females/a female and the female imperative.

So in that sense, I'm all for eliminating toxic masculinity, but that would mean eliminating gynocentrism. Good luck with that.

[–]haxurmind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still want to know how much people are wasted to attend these optional courses, purely for the laughs.

Context: The OP piece was posted on the white knighting sub yesterday.

The irony; this is exactly what TRP is.

I agree. Those serious about the subject material will end up here and are welcome and read the sidebar -->

Bonus is that reading the sidebar material is free, no college can beat that return on investment.

[–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's strange. Strange times we live in.

[–]j3nbu 432 points433 points  (78 children)

Self-hatred is a form of mental illness.

[–][deleted] 149 points150 points  (7 children)

No organism was ever meant to loath itself.

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 56 points57 points  (4 children)

That issue was caused by this :

The Duke Men’s Project, launched this month and hosted by the campus Women’s Center...

I stopped reading there.

[–]kafka-tamura 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Makes you wonder what massive scale brainwashing is necessary to rewire the brain which survived millions of years of evolution. Well, at least to trick it into sacrificing for unrelated women rather than kin.

[–]Hjalmbere 133 points134 points  (6 children)

Hating yourself for being a loser can push you to greatness. Hating your biological urges and genetic programming will never lead to anything good.

[–]j3nbu 86 points87 points  (1 child)

Self-criticism for the purpose of improvement and becoming greater than you are is excellent.

This isnt that. This is just self flagellation.

[–]ErenYeager91 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Exactly, self-contempt is not a way to greatness. Self-criticism can be, but also full positivity, it depends on a person.

[–]Apexk9 9 points10 points  (0 children)

After I was injured I became like 235 pounds I would insult myself in the mirror.

"Wtf are you doing? You're disgusting. Look at your face it's beautiful and you ruined it you fucking pig" it helped a lot.

[–]Stythe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea but hating yourself for being a loser and improving isn't about haring yourself per sey, it's hating your circumstances and taking the initiative to change them of your own accord. That's actual strength driven and developed through hard work and personal motivation. This whole "men suck" club is promoting the opposite of that. It's there to say you're bad because you have a penis.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I bet shit like this is why we have mass murders in the US.

[–]Hjalmbere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, massmurders are caused by assholes who use that as a coping strategy. Or terrorists.

[–]improvingme63 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I can see this leading to a high rate of suicides in the graduate pool.

[–]CQC3 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Yup. More proof of "toxic masculinity", I'm sure these boys committed suicide because they live in a culture where they are unable to express their emotions due to negative male gender norms.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Considering they'll be graduates of Duke. That's more of a net positive than most people realize. If anything, we need to get more lib-progs killing themselves and murdering their unborn (aka abortion).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think a masters in "anthropological sociology of contemporary America" counts for much regardless of where it comes from.

A Turd is still a Turd, no matter where it comes from.

[–]dayoom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not self loathing you dimwits ... they 're just trying to recruit the marginalized fucktards nobody invites to boys night, tell them how awful manly men are and how supportive feminism is and indoctrinate them.

[–]xx69bootyhunter69xx 24 points25 points  (51 children)

And teaching others like yourself to hate themselves too is an even bigger mental illness. Honestly it should be made a crime like pedophilia. Expect more Elliot Rodger cases. A cornered animal, beast or man, is more dangerous than a free one.

What infuriates me the most about this pervasive masculinity bashing culture is the fact that men have grown so physically weak compared to their previous generations, average testosterone levels are so critically low among men and are now almost as weak as women, and on top of that these feminists have the audacity to shame men for being masculine. Fuck you feminists, I hope you develop testicular cancer for all the testosterone pills you take when you get to your early 40's and get castrated, because you don't deserve a pair between your legs. Good thing I live in India and guns are illegal here. If feminism had reached as cancerous levels in here as in the US and if guns were legal here, I'd have gladly started shooting those feminists down until some cop shot me dead. How the fuck you American men are able to keep yourselves from going on shooting rampages boggles my mind.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (12 children)

bro, its the agenda of the world powers. They want to turn everyone into woman so they cannot fight back and are fit for slavery... their sick sense of "world peace".

[–]megpiesnyc 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They saw people waking up to the bullshit and sold off the internet to the UN. Too late, information is already out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well, its a lost cause you simply cannot control life. It's like a painting trying to control the artist. All this, as you can see, only leads to suffering for EVERYONE involved. People will eventually wake up, and see that all is Mind, and Mind is all, there is no need to control anything. Then we will truly advance. But... who knows when the "leaders"... in fact I won't use that name from now on. The Hijackers, thieves... who knows when they will learn that its simply impossible to control life.

[–]Stythe 17 points18 points  (6 children)

A little over the top lol, but your comment reminds me of a picture a buddy of mine posted on facebook that said "1944: 8 year old men stormed the beach of Normandy to almost certain death. 2016: Men need a safe space I'm collage because their feelings get hurt." I laughed pretty damn hard when I read that.

[–]_HotPockets_ 10 points10 points [recovered]

I think you mean 18, not 8

[–]johnbranflake 4 points5 points  (2 children)

A lot of boys lied about their age to sign up and their parents helped them. Not as young as eight but plenty of teens did. What pussies we are now

[–]iamdomesticcat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't feel bad cunt. It was a minority of boys and men.

[–]tack50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, back on the day most people fought on wars because they were ordered to, not because they wanted.

[–]Stythe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Glad you posted that. I doubt anyone would have been able to figure out my typo.

[–]Moneyley 8 points9 points  (0 children)

your comment should be moderated. It's besides me how you got 17 upvotes to this point. I think feminism is destroying men but your approach is outright sad and I dont believe comments like yours should have any room here. TRP constantly preaches "feeling mitigation" and it seems you were unable to contain yours.

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Trolling? There's a lot of ammo here for anti-TRP types.

[–]Tuga_Lissabon 11 points12 points  (9 children)

That is stupid speak. This for me is the worse insult, I won't call you evil, but stupid.

If you have that sort of feelings, then be ashamed of yourself.

A rampage by a males-rights advocate would bring 1000 feminist atheists down on their knees, shedding estrogen-fueled tears of joy in praise and thankfulness to their gods for their good luck.

It would be the ideal excuse for a hundred laws oppressing men. You would be a traitor to what you believe in.

In short, if that is what you feel, shut the fuck up. If you don't, even worse. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[–]trudatness 25 points25 points [recovered]

Thomas Ball immolated himself on the steps of a courthouse.

Nobody in the national press said a peep about it.

If Ball would have committed arson on the courthouse building instead of himself the press would have descended on the story like the vultures they are - and anyone after that calling themselves a MRA would indeed face criminal prosecution. Definitely laws would have passed to address the "National Outrage" resulting from the sensationalized story. Something would have needed to be done.

Since it was just some poor bastard facing an unconstitutional debtors prison with no release date (basically indefinite incarceration over non-compliance in a civil matter), it wasn't important. Men getting slandered, forcibly estranged from their children, wrongfully prosecuted, forced into poverty, made homeless, being put into unconstitutional debtors' prisons doesn't register on the radar of mass media - men's lives don't matter. Men are less worthy of human rights and dignity than women are.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Never heard of that story before.

I was just thinking the other day reading one of the usual "TRP should organise" posts about how it'd take something like self immmolation to create a spark for change.

Apparently not.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is how feminized our society has become. A man self-immolating is not an important event. Men are just that expendable. Enjoy the decline.

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[–]trudatness 4 points4 points [recovered]

No but are you going to destroy a man's life and permanently estrange him from his child over it?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, leave us out of your rants about feminists. They have their own religion, it's quite like yours and uses exactly the same tactics and indoctrination methods.

Those nutjob cunts tried to make us into them by default, claiming that not believing in a sky fairy, that loves you so much he will burn you if you don't love him back, is the same as being a feminist. Fuck that shit.

[–]Moneyley 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was oblivious to all you said for the simple reason the dude is talking about killing people. Initially, i sort of read the first part of what he said and it was ok. Then he goes on to talk about killing people and he seemed to write it with conviction. If you are in favor of proping up another supreme gentleman thats on you man. Ive been w trp now for a few years, have read endless posts and solid advice. Going kamikazee the he describes is far from the principles of TRP that Ive come to enjoy. You talk about shut the fuck up? Serious? Last i checked this was about being stoic and making sound long term decisions. Killing people then offing yourself is not self preservation.

[–]maniclurker 3 points4 points  (11 children)

Why do you think there are so many shooting rampages here?

One way or another, you should cool your jets about culture. At least you don't habitually read stories about brides getting acid thrown on their faces from the US.

Masculinity might not scare these cunts so much, if it weren't for cultures with disgusting habits like that.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 7 points8 points  (9 children)

It's something else scaring them. Responsibilities. You see they want to have a life without responsibility, where they can not have to think our do the hard tasks, and certainly not make the hard decisions. They want it easy, they want to live like girls can, because leading and making your way in life is fucking hard.

That's what scares them.

[–]maniclurker 0 points1 point  (7 children)

That is likely true, but it's also subconscious. It is not overt, like the news showing how awful it is for women in many parts of the ME to SE Asia.

Really, it's just more excuses for feminists have to perpetuate their irresponsible behavior.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (6 children)

They don't need excuses, they make shit up. Reality, truth, and facts are irrelevant to them. It's a fucking religion, and it eschews reality and fact to maintain the delusion just like every religion does.

[–]maniclurker 0 points1 point  (5 children)

They might not need the excuses, but that doesn't prevent them from using them. And they're fantastic excuses! That's really disgusting behavior in a male dominated society.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Indeed, they'll do anything that makes them seem more than they are. The weak minded are easily swayed by their bullshit.

[–]maniclurker 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I'm not sure where you're going, now. Your replies don't seem related to my posts.

Are you going to moralize the acid thing? Or are you trying to minimize it?

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm agreeing with you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and it's prevalent in every segment of society. From top to the bottom. The average guy just follows the path built by those at the top. Yet when that same path turns to shit, the top will be nowhere to offer guidance. The avoidance of responsibility is inbuilt throughout the system.

With so much of this bullshit working against us, it's a miracle that those of who us are unplugged, managed to even make those first steps out and become what we are today.

[–]Serrano- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because we have no mental health system. They literally let crazies live among us, then act shocked when they do something horribly crazy.

[–]CQC3 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How the fuck you American men are able to keep yourselves from going on shooting rampages boggles my mind

Well, if we take a look at the news, we aren't.

[–]Serrano- 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Much is not Americans though. Orlando2016 Virginia Tech2007 San Bernardino2015 Binghamton2009 Fort Hood2009 Oikos2012 Hialeah2013 Chattanooga2015 is all non Americans.

[–]fakenate1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The San Bernardino attack was by an American.

[–]Serrano- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The one was Pakistan. The other was born here to Pakistani parents. Sunni Muslim.

[–]fakenate1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do programs like this cause you to stab your roommates a collective 148 times?

[–]TheBloodEagleX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Evolutionary wise, one theory to why our brains on smaller than average than those of Cro-Magnons (us a couple thousand years ago) is because we domesticated ourselves. I feel like this is the continuation of it.

http://discovermagazine.com/2010/sep/25-modern-humans-smart-why-brain-shrinking

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[–]icecow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He might just be the biggest smart ass in the world.

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[–]icecow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, you are saying that. Try attracting attention to yourself in a way you want to be remembered, instead of branding people to associate you directly with inferiority with your bullshit.

[–]afkb39sdfb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These people are your competition in the real world.

You could almost settle for mediocrity and still beat them by a large margin.

[–][deleted] 364 points365 points  (10 children)

imagine doing this for homosexuals? breaking down why you're gay and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen

[–]j3nbu 88 points89 points  (1 child)

SJWs rant and rave about how evil gay conversion therapy is...but then they organize these self-hate groups.

[–]JLCitadel 97 points98 points  (2 children)

Imagine doing this for men? breaking down why you're masculine and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen

Oh.. wait...

Beyond humor it really is disgustingly pathetic how ignorant these people are.

[–]1jb_trp 58 points59 points  (0 children)

It's not surprising that groups like this are forming. The seeds were planted years ago, in the early 90s, when a war on boys was started. Warren Farrell discusses this as well.

Society has removed the role of fathers from the household, declared boyhood a pathology, created highly feminized upbringing and medications to stamp out boyhood rambunctiousness, and slowly boys and men are falling behind.

Groups like this benefit everyday from traditional masculinity (e.g. the police, construction workers, garbage men, firefighters, miners, engineers, etc.) and yet only want to look at "toxic masculinity" and how that "oppresses" women. And they're really sneaky about it too. If you disagree with them, or have strong opinions on such things, and don't participate in their brainwashing groups, they're declare this to be "proof" of your "fragile masculinity." Confess to your crimes or be burned at the stake!

[–]TheRedThrowAwayPill 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Imagine doing this for women? breaking down why you're feminist and getting you to deconstruct your horrible beliefs? no way would this happen

[–]rathyAro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This has literally happened. I'm sure it still happens.

[–]DennisReynoldsAMA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When gays are held in a higher regard than men you know the world is on thin ice.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Considering homosexuality is not a gender but a sexual preference, I don't see the validity of your analogy.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 52 points53 points  (3 children)

It is not a reeducation camp being administered by an oppressed group in the service of the feminization of American society, but rather a space by men and for men.

This is doubleplusgood. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength

Duke is the site of one of the most famous rape false-accusation cases in recent history. Perhaps the women could use a project of their own.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The Duke Lacrosse case was pretty interesting. One factor that is often forgotten, is that the accuser was a black stripper, and the incident was used by the local media to inflame racial tensions.

Duke students were threatened by blacks, with groups like the New Black Panthers helping to raise tensions, and protesting. Professional race tension instigator Jesse Jackson had offered to pay the accuser's tuition, regardless if she was a liar or not.

This spirit of jumping to conclusions, and demonizing innocent white men before facts are known, continues on with the Black Lives Matter movement.

[–]CypherWolf21 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No One ever spends that much effort telling you what something is not unless it is in fact that very thing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I scrolled down the comments until I found this, hah

I'm even wondering if an infiltrator of ours hasn't gotten on the Duke's student paper editorial board and snuck that sentence in there.

It's not an infiltrator. It's doublespeak.

[–]rossiFan 235 points236 points  (17 children)

My son is a 9th grade scholar in the Duke TIP program. I just unsubscribed from their email list and notified them that they will not be getting my $4000 for their camp this summer. Fuck them. This is the ONLY way we can vote - with our dollars.

[–]PeopleHateThisGuy 53 points54 points  (1 child)

How people vote with their feet and with their dollars is the surest way to see where they stand..

[–]Pepper989 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Duke TIP is a shitty program now anyway. good riddance. there are plenty better programs out there.

[–]chasethecake 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Good for you. I suggest looking for another program to sign him into immediately, as his education and development is your responsibility.

[–]rossiFan 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Already there - MIT has some neat offerings (his first choice), as well as Rice.

[–]Poke_Red 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Hey, I'm a Rice freshman if you have any questions about the way of life/academics. Cheers.

[–]rossiFan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

First of all: CONGRATS!! Getting into Rice is HUGE.

Quick question about your high school path - did you do AP or IB (International Baccalaureate) classes? My son is currently all AP and in NHS and track.

How is the general culture at Rice?

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RP College Admissions.com :) LOL

[–]Poke_Red 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks!

I took the all AP courses route, highly recommend. If he can, prioritize testing out of the science courses (Chemistry, Physics) because those classes kick ass in university. My school did not have NHS, and the sports complement nicely.

I love the culture at Rice. Everyone is friendly and there's a cooperative atmosphere (rather than competitive). No matter one's nationality or race, you're accepted. Because there are lots of resources, if I want to do/build something, I can. Opportunities fall into my hands.

With regards to feminism, it's small here. One can describe most guys here as beta, and the alphas play sports or lead clubs. The Rugby team here acts as a fraternity, they're great guys. There's no feminist re-education, only a small feminist club. I haven't met many feminists, though I wouldn't hang out with them anyway.

Not everyone is ripped and jacked, but most everyone is fit at Rice. The campus is beautiful and there are plentiful intramurals and the Rec is great.

The girls here are okay. There aren't as many attractive girls like at a state school, but you can find them if you look. Consent is stressed here.

The public parties are alright, and the private parties are where I made my closest friends here. Wet campus, and great alcohol policy. Police department are helpful and friendly (major difference from where I grew up).

Overall, it's a great place set up to give a great future.

[–]ampfin 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I hope you made it explicitly clear why instead of just cancelling

[–]rossiFan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I absolutely did. There was no way to interpret what I said any differently.

[–]TurboApe 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Know for a fact that camp is just a cash cow for them. It doesn't impact top school admissions. Spend the money helping them excel at unique interests instead.

[–]blacwidonsfw 2 points2 points [recovered]

4000 for a personal programming teacher for a 4 week crash course could really set your bro up for a nice life.

[–]marplaneit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol. Like programming makes you top bucks. Sure it may set you up for life if you are actually smart and talented, but for a 9yr old I would prefer something more "general".

Maybe strategy and economic classes? I don't know.

[–]Op2mus 38 points39 points  (1 child)

Madness. I'd love to take part in one of these and just shit on everything the whole time I was there. There's no way they'd let me stay, but it would be fun while it lasted. Nothing better than triggering a SJW snowflake.

[–]warsie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suspect thats what a lot of people will do. Pro-male people joining it and turning it into a male safe space and whatnot. Like, anti-SJW, frat-bro, fun, lifting, sports, anime and video-game safe space. Basically a fraternity without the.....questionable parts of fraternity culture.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 40 points41 points  (2 children)

but rather a space by men and for men  hosted by the campus Women’s Center 

I'm sure in the interests of equality they are hosting toxic femininity courses too. Totally.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I like how it is hosted by the 'men' in the Women's Center. That is plain speaking at least, because they sure ain't women.

[–]Kingofmyworld909 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the majority (if not all) of the "equality" programs (i.e. title IX) in universities/college institutions are organized by entities whose names/bodies are female-oriented. The school I attend (in the LBC) is definitely showing its true colors now with respect to pro-pussy power (with the new president being an ol bitty, it doesn't really help).

[–]xkcd_puppy 32 points33 points  (6 children)

what the hell is even "toxic masculinity"?

where/when is the workshop on "toxic femininity"?

[–]BlacknOrangeZ 79 points80 points  (0 children)

"toxic femininity"

WRONGTHINK DETECTED

Please report to your nearest Men's Project for correction.

[–]omega_dawg93 40 points41 points  (1 child)

there is no such thing as toxic feminity.

it's just feminity. the shit testing, emotional manipulation, various mind games & guilt tripping just come naturally... so the word "toxic" isn't really required.

[–]angryguy4444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feminity is toxic in and of itself.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think they look at egregious examples of sexism and inappropriate sexual displays as proof of its existence. While there are utter douchebags out there and full blown misogynists, it's hardly representative of your average, masculine dude. But yeah, they'd consider catcalling to be a toxic example, and also lockerroom talk where men share their sexual exploits. The hilarious thing about this is women talk about others absolutely brutally in private, including how big a man's junk is, how terrible they were in bed, etc. I knew a girl that told me that the reason she regretted hooking up with a guy and continued to blow him off was due to his dick having a 'weird shape'. I knew the guy too

[–]fingerthemoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It all comes down to man's superior strength and power. Women fear this and at the same time are attracted to it. Our greatest weakness is our ability to be manipulated by female beauty. This weakness gives them equal footing in the game of power. A man who cannot be emotionally manipulated is the most feared and most desired.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Toxic masculinity is unwanted sexual attention from a low status male. There is no such thing as toxic femininity because anything a woman decides to do is "empowering".

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (8 children)

i looked up Andrew Tan-Delli Cicchi and found his linkedin- no surprise here, he's a Global Cultural Studies major. pathetic.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 16 points17 points  (4 children)

$50k+ and four years down the shitter for what he could have gotten for a at most a couple hundred on books from ebay. Idiot.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

These guys think being a professional SJW is their golden ticket. Considering the modern political/media environment, they might be right, and college campuses are the best place to get started.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 3 points4 points  (2 children)

To be fair that applies to almost every degree. College isn't to learn and regurgitate imo,it's to discuss and listen to point of views other than your own and logically come to your own conclusions. At least for the art degrees like this guy.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 0 points1 point  (1 child)

it's to discuss and listen to point of views other than your own and logically come to your own conclusions.

Have you actually been to a university? It's about learning to regurgitate and restrict thought under the guise of diversity, fun, opportunity, and success.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, I have. We clearly seem to have had very different university experiences.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This loser and his ilk are the direct result of loose admissions standards and automatic credit for tuition. Take those things away and they go back to shining people's shoes.

[–]throwgammaway111 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Poor Dipro Bhowmik. And poor Alex Bressler. They'll never, ever, ever get laid. They're doomed to die as virgins, having failed the most basic shit test of all: listening to what women say instead of what they do.

Guys, I know you're reading this. So is everyone else in the Duke program. No one can resist reading someone else talking about them. And we've all seen university professors putting screenshots of the Red Pill in their lectures. They're watching, and their students are watching.

But no one should listen to a bunch of misogynists like the Red Pill! And women SAY they want nice, compliant, non-toxic men! Why would someone say something they don't believe???

Well, here's your homework assignment from someone who actually knows what they're talking about - i.e., not your loser professors who couldn't get a job in the real world and who have to spout leftist bullshit on pain of being fired.

First, Google something called "revealed preferences." The short version: people lie to make themselves look good. The way to tell what they're really thinking is by their actions, not their words.

Second, you should read the following very misogynistic novels written by completely awful misogynists:

1) Twilight (120 million copies sold by the female author to mostly women)

2) 50 Shades of Gray (125 million copies sold by the female author to mostly women)

3) The Flame and the Flower (36 million copies of similar novels sold by the female author to mostly women)

Crazy, right? Someone in the Red Pill is telling you to read a book written by a WOMAN? And romance novels, no less?

Well, reading these books is your first step to getting laid. Seriously.

And even if you don't want to get laid - well, what true male feminist would refuse to read books written by WOMEN which hundreds of millions of WOMEN love? Sounds pretty misogynistic to me! Refusing to read three of the most popular books among women of all time is something only a true bigot would do!

You poor saps are sitting there, thinking that women DON'T want you to be toxic alpha males. Well, if you're right, then these romance novels by women should feature men just like you. Nice guys. Men with no edge. Safe men with no trace of the evil, awful toxic things your Duke reeducation camp is telling you not to do.

Surely they won't feature dangerous vampires who can kill you at the slightest touch, werewolves who can lose their shit and maul their girlfriends if they get mad about anything, damaged billionaires who want to tie women up in their basements, or pirates who rape the female main character for 100 pages straight?

I mean, what women would want to fantasize about something like that? What woman would want to date an asshole alpha male?

Right?

Right?

When you're done reading those three books, come back here and get started on the sidebar. You'll thank me later.

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I agree, but no fucking way I am reading that trash. I saw New Moon cause a girl I was fucking loved it and still today I feel dirty.

50 shades was trash but I did like Christian grays character. Again, a woman dragged me. Except I actually learned a lot from how I really enjoyed Christians game.

It was fun predicting what he was doing and then watching him break it down for idiots. It was shockingly accurate in that regard.

[–]throwgammaway111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone with their head pulled out of their ass already probably shouldn't waste their time. Just looking at the titles of bestselling romance or erotica novels that women buy will tell you enough ("Owned by the Alpha," "Put in a Cage By the Alpha," "Turned Into Property of the Motorcycle Club Bad Boys").

But for someone like these guys, hearing it straight from a bestselling female author's mouth is the only way they're going to learn. They'll discount anything we say as evil. But 125 million women can't all be misogynists.

[–]warsie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How is Twilight..."redpilled" exactly? "Careful, I'm dangerous" doesnt seem to it the 'alpha archetype' much...

[–]throwgammaway111 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's page after page after page of how dangerous her two potential boyfriends are.

"He's a vampire... and if you accidentally cut your finger, he'll smell your blood and freak out and bite you. He can't control himself. He's dangerous. And if you have sex, the slightest wrong movement will kill you. And he can't control himself, and he's dangerous. And if he touches you, he could snap your neck. And he wants to control every single moment of your life. And he has all these enemies who want to kill you. He's so, so, so dangerous..."

If you read 2,000 pages of this and still don't believe women fantasize about toxic, dangerous men who could flip out and hurt them, you're hopeless.

[–]Nergaal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suggest actually reading "Gone with the Wind"

[–]throw17453 66 points66 points [recovered]

Universities are not representative of society at large. Most people don't buy into this nonsense.

And even within universities there is growing dissatisfaction with the inability to criticise views on gender, identity, etc.

[–]JLCitadel 50 points51 points  (6 children)

Any time gender identity has sprung up in my university courses here in NYC the majority of people find the idea disgusting that people think they can arbitrarily switch genders.

Homosexual people in particular seem to have a big problem with it.

The concept of safe spaces is much like the idea of communism, perfect in conception, however the reality will never be that way. No matter how you spin it.

The biggest issue that has support is emasculation.

Our society acts as a pendulum and swings back in forth in its views quite often. We will be entering an era of hyper-masculinity within 30 years. When the boys now become calloused men.

[–]Xevalous 23 points23 points [recovered]

"Our society acts as a pendulum and swings back in forth in its views quite often. We will be entering an era of hyper-masculinity within 30 years. When the boys now become calloused men."

I believe this has already started. We're the living proof.

[–]throw17453 7 points7 points [recovered]

I've never actually come across anyone who expressed that they found the idea disgusting, even very religious people who arguably have the strongest motivation to think so

I do know a lot of people just have very little time for it though. They think it is either, mentally damaged people or attention seekers, or both. Or just don't think its normal.

Some people also just do not know how they should interact with or think about someone who "switches gender". So just will find being around them uncomfortable.

I have some experience of this - check my post history - and people who just find the idea uncomfortable are usually completely fine if the person can be funny/carefree, intelligent or just generally engaging.

[–]JLCitadel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rarely do I hear the specific word "disgust" used. The more likely terms to be heard are; gross, strange, weird etc.. Accompanied by the facial reaction of someone who is subconsciously repulsed.

Personally, I believe homosexuality is acceptable, switching genders once is acceptable. However, people who maintain the androgynous style accompanied by hormone therapy, but never commit to a gender and identifying as "gender fluid" are quite literally the definition of disgusting. In quite the same way that general bigotry is disgusting. They, by making themselves "gender fluid" belittle the cause of those who actually have chemical unbalances in their mind, which is what causes gender identity issues (at least beyond poor upbringing).

[–]Specter242 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We will be entering an era of hyper-masculinity within 30 years. When the boys now become calloused men.

I think this will indeed happen. Society constantly attacks men. Going on the offense is risky but building up a solid defense seems like the only way to go. A generation of calloused men will cause society to do a real 180.

[–]RojoEscarlata 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I bet that A LOT of single mothers will be delighted to have their sons purged of their toxic masculinity.

[–]HeatseekingLogicBomb 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yeah they do. That's why this subreddit is a thing (and why MRAs are a thing, MGTOW, etc). If people were more traditional and there wasn't betafication everywhere, TRP / the manosphere / whatever you want to call all of it combined, would never have become what it is.

Remember the Laws of Power. Blend. In person we (TRP-only) don't attack Feminism and all that shit all the time, because it's either people who are: fanatics, enthusiastic progressives driven by identity politics who feel they are slightly informed but didn't apply enough critical thinking, or apathetic people who just assume 'Feminism is about equality' and all the buzzwords are valid. There are two categories of dissent: apathetic and doubting, and anti-Feminist and informed.

Even apathetic and doubting knows the loss of social standing that comes going against group think, so they just steer clear. The anti-Feminist should too.

[–]throw17453 7 points7 points [recovered]

Agreed on your latter point.

I don't on your first. There is a whole world between these two:

  1. extreme feminist, toxic masculinity, gender is a social construct, victimhood sjw nonsense.

  2. The views on society and gender from a redpill perspective

A large number of people fall into this middle ground. By redpill standards it would still be deluded and bluepill, but a large number of people do not agree with the extremes pushed by feminists, sjw's or otherwise.

However that middle ground is forever changing, and it's long due a swing the other way, toward masculinity and traditional gender roles.

[–]HeatseekingLogicBomb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I didn't assign a percentage ratio to the groups, only listed the groups.

I'd say the anti-Feminists, the only ones who will stand up and criticize it, are pretty marginal though. Most people are apathetic, or complicit, and when something is as extensive and widely-affecting as identity politics is, that's as good as supporting it. Many believe in at least some of the false narratives that the further-Left-style camps peddle. Identity politics are very widespread and pervasive.

You've got to remember, welfare states depend on this stuff. The government co-opted social justice over the last few decades, in order to expand it's role and levy higher taxes to siphon off of. After colonialism and the world wars the West (specifically the US) had tons of wealth and was fairly peaceful. Especially after 1970. The state's controllers created programs that aren't designed to work, because the government can't do those things if it solves the problems it's exacerbating.

There are massive indoctrination processes to this. They control the schools and universities, and they push their agendas through into HR/corporate culture as well, completely. They obfuscate economics, there's just so much tied into it.

[–]offthebeatmeoff 20 points21 points  (2 children)

This is fucking hilarious. I used to do some creeping at Shooter's when I lived in North Carolina. I had a buddy that lived in Durham, and we called this place the slut dungeon. You wouldn't believe what happened when the basketball players walked in. It was unreal, you had girls literally throwing themselves at these guys. These guys would be shirtless in a bar. Some of them were tatted up and they'd be encircled by hot sluts ready to suck their cocks. I remember being there in the summer and I was acquaintances with the center on the team. During the summer the ADF was being held and I was banging of the dancers. Her friends found out I knew the center and they began throwing themselves at me just to meet him. It was unreal. All these Duke girls are doing is projecting their insecurities and feeling toward these athletes to every guy there when in reality most of the guys at Duke are really smart nice guys who suck with women.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

yup, by all of their defintions, most of those baskettball players are misogynist shitlords, but that doesnt matter because of their status and bodies. They're laughing it up fucking all these hot women with no effort involved, while all the normal, average nice dudes are being indoctrinated in ways to be unfuckable. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. I said it above and i'll say it again here, the guys that are swindled by this shit are victims. They're not the baskettball players, but rather the emotionally compromised, low n - count (if they arent still virgins) nice dudes who don't know any better.

[–]offthebeatmeoff 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The world has never been kind to guys who don't know how to read in between the lines. Corporate world, dating, education.

[–]Fulp_Piction 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I'm going to keep heading down the 'toxic masculinity route' thanks. While I hope society realises that feminizing young men isn't a great idea, there probably isn't a better time than now to be a man with rp knowledge. Enjoy it fella's.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

yeah beyond paying mere lip service to the ideas of feminism, most women really don't want a limp wristed, feminine man. This shit is so counterproductive for everyone but here we are

[–]Fulp_Piction 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You see the problem is that, because women are praised for their femininity, which manifests in submissiveness and sexual attractiveness, the Hamplanets who've lose the genetic lottery are jealous of their attractive counterparts and bitch about the unfairness of life = feminism. Hot chicks don't need feminism, they've got men queueing up to provide for them. It's ironic that a feminine feminist is a thing of myth.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (10 children)

I can only imagine what these fruitcakes look like

Think about it. A women's group has an initiative to redefine masculinity for men. As if they had mens interests in mind.

Its like a pack of wolves redefining security for chicken coops

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 8 points9 points  (4 children)

They look EXACTLY how you would expect. No style, no swagger, hell they're not even confident holding eye contact with a camera! I wonder if they've ever stared into a woman's eyes and seen that desire they have, while still being able to intimidate them with just that look... actually I don't wonder that at all. None of them have.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Feminized men......so common and they make me nauseous every time

[–]angryguy4444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no idea what a masculine man looks like. All the men I see in every day life are like those in this video.

[–]dudet23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm surprised they included a black dude. Usually leftists only like to promote feminized white men while allowing blacks to retain their masculinity cause "muh oppression "

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's old since Gay Barry took office. Now an effete black feminist is the fem correct version of masculinity

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 7 points8 points  (4 children)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfJqNnWXIAAvVNE.jpg

Can't make this shit up. What looks like a larval version of Elen Pao on the right and some distinctive woman of color, who happens to be more wide than she is tall, in the middle. Our man Dipro Bhowmik seen on the left, trying to keep his chin up high.

A tantalizing gathering all around, proving that we're making excellent progress toward the dystopic vision of the human being of the future (tall upright blue pill intellectual elite and their stunted dwarf underclass).

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You missed the smug redhead in the middle who looks like the quintessential false rape accuser.

Just barely fuckable enough to a thirsty, drunk, white beta who is about to ruin his life over a 4

[–]Senior ContributorSkorchZang 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Her pose and expression were strikingly suggestive, that's the look you see in those old oil paintings depicting white women enslaved by conquering mongol hordes.

[–]PinkySlayer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh my God that is the most accurate description I've ever read

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope you too weren't wrongfully accused and know this the hard way

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 58 points59 points  (16 children)

It’s important to remember: women completely lack empathy. It is 100% impossible for a woman to imagine that another human may think and feel completely differently than she does, and that this other human’s viewpoint is truthful, equal, valid, etc.

If you express a viewpoint, lifestyle, or priority and it’s different than a woman’s, she immediately assumes you’re doing it for the same reason she would have if she were acting like you. The idea that you might actually be different than she is – that’s beyond her capacity to imagine. Any viewpoint you express that doesn’t mirror her own is done either for attention, to antagonize her, to gain status with people, etc. – because those are the reasons she argues with people and expresses different viewpoints.

So as we remember that this is the mindset of women, now let’s think about masculinity.

Women genuinely believe that you are just like them inside, and that if you act masculine in the slightest, this is done for attention, to antagonize her, or to gain social status. Because that would be her reasons if she were to act masculine like you.

The fact that you might actually be masculine and might actually be different than she is – that’s beyond her imagination. In the eyes of women, we are 100% like them. Everyone is 100% like them. And when people act differently than they do, it’s an attention-grab, an attempt to get to somebody, or an attempt to gain status.

Women genuinely believe that men acting masculine is a mask. A farce. A bunch of insecure guys pretending to be something they’re not because society forces them to. That we’re all strutting about pretending to be men so that other men don’t make fun of us and call us gay. We’re not really like that. We’re just pretending to gain status and get attention.

They see themselves as the liberators of men. Because they know that deep down inside, we’re all just like them. They can’t imagine that we’re not. And they’re going to save us from ourselves by making sure nobody ever has to pretend to be different or think differently than they do ever again.

And loser men who don't measure up as real men and want to gain points with women are playing along with the girls, hoping that they really can change the standards so that they're the top dogs. It's their own form of loser masculine competitiveness.

[–]diomedes777 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This is one of the best thing's you've ever written and you need to expand on this concept with a post of it's own. Women cannot conceptualize that people are inherently different. They literally are incapable of it. EVERYONE is IDENTICAL according to women. There is no difference between genders. I've even been told this straight from the mouth of my mother, my ex girlfriend and female colleagues. It's sickening and depressing.

[–]Temperfuelmma 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha, holy shit I never thought about it like that.

I can't believe this shit. They actually think they're the liberators of men. Haha, this is beyond hilarious, this is some full-retard next-level dumb.

Gentlemen, they actually believe all this bullshit. Can you even believe that? I mean beta's do it to score points but women? They ACTUALLY believe all this crap - no wonder they're so persistent and dedicated to their "cause".

[–]SgtBrutalisk 5 points6 points  (5 children)

There is some truth to this theory, as both genders are female at embryonic stage. Without testosterone, the guy is nothing more than a bitch with a donger between his legs.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 14 points15 points  (3 children)

There is some truth to this theory, as both genders are female at embryonic stage.

From conception you have either XX or XY. Your very existence is gendered from the moment the sperm meets the egg. Here is a more scientific explanation.

[–]Temperfuelmma 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I mean this shit is common sense.

I can't even wrap my head around the likes to people that need a scientific explanation to differentiate between a penis and a vagina.

[–]TheBloodEagleX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The first poster isn't off with his post when you consider why men have nippes and the person correcting him is implying he is wrong about his wording.

http://www.livescience.com/32467-why-do-men-have-nipples.html

[–]TheBloodEagleX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He isn't completely off base if you consider the fact of why men have nipples.

http://www.livescience.com/32467-why-do-men-have-nipples.html

http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/why-do-men-have-nipples/

Even in the Quora link people mention this:

Genetically - No. The presence of XX or XY chromosome is determined the moment conception happens

But Physically - Yes. At the start of development, the zygote has a feminine system - from reproductive organs to the nipples. Only after about 60 days does the hormone testosterone kick in for those embryos with XY chromosome, thus changing the genetic nature of cells in the genitals and brain. But by then those mammary papillae aren't going anywhere , leading to the presence of the nipples in men.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And before that we are a bunch of cells that the untrained could not differentiate from a dog blastocyst. So this really isn't a point.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a great thesis (solipsism) but how do you reconcile it with women's innate mastery of manipulation, which implies they must be good at "reading" people's emotions and desires accurately.

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This comment blew me away. It made me really sit back and reflect. Thanks for posting it. I have two questions. My first thought when reading your comment was, "why do women overwhelmingly seem to take career paths that require empathy?" But then it dawned on my that they prefer those career paths because they also coincide with access to people. They are social professions. Most women don't want to be engineers and computer science professionals because they simply don't have the same social aspect(and those fields require a suspension of emotional reasoning as well...). I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this.

My second question is, why do a solid portion of women seem to be dickmotized/obsessed/derailed by powerful masculine men? Why the 'hussy' phenom? Is this solely based on a women's desire to control and redirect a man's powers and money/potential to earn for her own gain? Is it really that raw?

[–]Chizxyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Realest post I've ever come across

[–]RenaissanceMan79 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

If this were the case, masculine men wouldn't get laid, because they would just be presumed insecure posers.

[–]TRP VanguardArchwinger 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You'd be surprised how many women fall in love with the idea of fixing their poor aloof distant asshole boyfriend.

[–]matthew8367 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've always gone with the mantra "when a woman has gotten validation all her life, a man who doesn't validate her intrigues her". She must know why he doesn't. This, of course, only applies to attractive men.

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a legitimate question and I don't see why you are getting downvoted. My take is that the resources, status, and strength that a mans 'insecure poser' exterior has garnered him is more important to her then his posing. She looks down even further on posers that don't get anything out of their masculine exterior.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."-Hermann Göring "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peace makers for lack of equality and exposing the women to danger. It works the same in any country."

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[–]BRINGMEDATASS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Man these meetings are so stupid. I had to do two of these orientations and patronizing was an understatement. The female instructor was very condescending and offensive. I would expect that most men understand rape and that one's that are mentally unstable enough to go through with rape will not be restrained by these dumb presentations.

[–]Usecod 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Well as I said years ago We live in something like ausulym.I am going to move to Mother Russia or Eastern Europe in the period of the next 10 years.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There is still hope..

Make sure to vote this November

[–]j3nbu 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Its a cult. Political correctness is our established religion and masculenity is one of its cardinal sins.

[–]j4c0p 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moving to Eastern Europe countries is like using time machine. The shitstorm you saw in US will be hitting these countries in 3-5 years max. (Source? I live here + people just started posting their circlejerk with rapeculture + wagegap)

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[–]e4tshit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

legit spit tea out of my nose

[–]Conceited-Monkey 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Deconstruct their identity? Imagine if Duke decided to start a class on gay conversion. The logic is the same.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

How is the logic the same? Homosexuality is a sexual preference (biological), not a gender (social and cultural).

[–]RedMoonAscendant 2 points3 points  (1 child)

At first I thought this was a clever joke, reversing the sense of things that are preferences or not.

Then I read your other reply and I see you're just confused. What. Are you on. About?

[–]Conceited-Monkey 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You don't think gender is also biological?

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

By definition gender cannot be biological. If it turns out to be true that men are biologically better at math, then that would become a sex difference, not a gender difference. However, the claim that women should not pursue math because they are women, is a gender issue. It's asserting that a woman ought to behave a certain way because she is biological a woman, and a behavior and role is being assigned to her gender by society.

[–]yourmommysnightmare 9 points10 points  (0 children)

the same place where a crapton of the humanities professors signed "the letter".

Oh, you don't remember that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_88

and a 10-year retrospective (a huge exercise in excuse-making)

http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2016/03/misreading-a-social-disaster-group-of-88-members-look-back

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 39 points40 points  (9 children)

Interesting move from feminists to create a "male safe space", even if feminine-approved..

I wonder if we could take that opportunity of a male gathering to inject some red pill ideas into the program. What about sending an email to congratulate the university for their modern move towards equality and suggesting that, in order to better understand the topic of toxic masculinity, they include reading a few "very toxic" texts such as "Michael's story", "confessions of a reformed incel" and "men are not happy" and get the gathered men to discuss...

[–]1nzgs 61 points62 points  (5 children)

What on earth about this makes you think it is a male safe space? It's an indoctrination course. A male safe space is called the pub.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Also the locker room. The shit we say after a game always reminds me of how futile these attempts are. Masculanity isnt fragile.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 15 points16 points  (1 child)

/u/nzgs and /u/Marsupian

Pub, locker room? You call these safe spaces for men? That's like 'man caves'. A man has only one place in the garage he considers his domain in a house that HE pays for. Fucking pathetic. Men built and maintained everything around you. Our safe space is where ever we fucking stand. Bitches can't do shit without us. Bitches can only do what we allow them to. Bitches ain't shit. The only reason we have to have retreats and watch our 6 is because of all the thirsty-ass, beta-simp motherfuckers fucking shit up for everyone else that has spine and self-respect.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point. While Im generally more obtuse in how I express my masculanity in more male dominated areas I have no problem being masculine in public places. Always make the space you are in your own.

[–]warsie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pubs are too expensive. though they can be fun :v

[–]Qix213 14 points15 points  (1 child)

If you want to get kicked out of school and waste your tuition money in the process, go for it.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

never suggested that such person would be from that uni, or even would be stupid enough to provide name or any other personal detail

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

ive thought of doing this once i get to a 4-year university but it seems awfully ideal. look at what we're dealing with

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is voluntary self-castration as well as mental self-harm. Forcefully going against nature can mess you up big time. These cucks have a mental illness.

[–]SillyAmerican 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Can we send in an operative? learn about our enemy?

[–]scarletspider3 9 points10 points  (1 child)

yeah but he'll just ruin his GPA

[–]warsie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrecked a class with an SJW professor (full failure), but it was still worth it. You can always say 'i was fucked with a cuck SJW, thats why I failed' (more academic/polite) for graduate school and it could work

[–]LoveableCancer 7 points7 points [recovered]

Where on earth do a group of women get the termerity to re-define masculinity and advise men on how to act?

Seriously. What. The. Fuck.

[–]Ptoss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

honestly i hope feminism becomes more powerful and pervasive. more bitch men to compete with = easier pussy to attain.

[–]angryguy4444 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And more people who will try to make your life a living hell if you ever say what your views are.

Pussy is not worth sacrificing one's nation sanity.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My father told me about there being something similar in Communist countries, where workers had weekly confession sessions, during which they admitted to "sins". If you don't confess to anything, you must be hiding something. I couldn't find the exact description of this term, except struggle sessions in China

[–]The__Tren__Train 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So a bunch of bull dykes and limp-wristed queers are going to get together and whine about men.

Who fucking cares?

When I was in university, the lgbt kids had meetings in the house across the street. They were ALWAYS fighting and arguing because deep down, they hated each other... And themselves.

This whole ideology has no base to build upon. It will always crumble. The snake will always eat it's tail.

[–]0kool74 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is not a reeducation camp being administered by an oppressed group in the service of the feminization of American society

Funny they're saying that it's not exactly what it is. Was I the only one that chuckled heartily at that steaming pile of rabid hyena dung???

[–]gmflag 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My alma mater has been embarassing me lately with this latest ridiculousness. Terry Sanford has to be rolling in his grave knowing about this and the safe space bullshit.

That's why I haven't donated in last few years. though, it won't change much.

[–]Hjalmbere 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed. This is similar to the public self-criticism A.K.A. 'struggle sessions' that the Communist Red Guards forced on people they considered lacking in spirit during the Chinese Cultural Revolution, difference being that these poor saps are volunteers. But expect this madness to become mandatory if Hillary wins the election.

[–]Mckallidon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shit, if it's gonna be that kind of party I'm gonna stick my dick in the mashed potatoes.

[–]grass_cutter 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'm not a redpill diehard here ... serious question ... what is the point of this?

The only males who will voluntarily attend this are:

  1. Already male feminists who don't need to be "converted" as far as they're concerned anyway ....

  2. Some guy pretending to be a feminist champion so he can pork some hot piece of ass .... also won't be changing any of his viewpoints.

Like ... do they expect a hyper-masculine frat-bro asswipe or football player to just plunk in to this shit? It's not going to happen. Their target audience will never actually go there, voluntarily. Unless it's a punishment center for people who violate the honor code or some bullshit.

[–]warsie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I typeed elsewhere, I suspect #3 will be MRAs or other people from the manosphere or anti-SJW people who go there to just fuck with the thing and/or turn it into a male safe space. For example, when I transferred to my current school - I would not have joined any fraternity due to the costs as well as the unnecessarily gendering of stuff ("man of good qualities" and stuff).

But, if you make a male safe space (say 'male' more often than 'man' to avoid circlejerks over what is 'manly', unless you're being ironic SPIKE TV Manswers stuff) you'll get a lot of people who don't exactly follow fraternity masculinity because of some toxic parts, but can be strongly anti-SJW on their own own (i.e. the gaming club people, or robotics, or whatnot). A fraternity, without the pervasive gender-policing and other bullshit which some fraternities at state schools do (the frats at my school, now that ive interacted with people there, are actually pretty nice - lots of cool people there)

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, they couldn't make the misandry and left-wing feminazi roots more obvious. They are so confident that people will lie down and take this without protest that it just isn't worth being sneaky about it anymore. And certainly, what is optional now becomes compulsary tomorrow, like the 'rape education' classes that everybody is supposed to take.

But markets speak. If it is publicised enough and enough men don't go to this university, they will be overpopulated with women taking bullshit soft courses and its rankings will sink. Money talks.

[–]1v1crown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wish zero people would attend.

[–]jimmyb207 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Fembots described exactly what the program is by pathetically and preemptively lying about what it is not.

I believe this disgusting feminization of the American male is a full blown symptom of the Cultural Marxism Plague currently underway in the US.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wonder if the Duke Lacrosse team will be part of this?

[–]Words-Are-Wind 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There's nothing wrong with deconstructing your own identity, in fact, it could even help someone become more red pill, or help them improve in other ways. But when used to brainwash people into being beta, by telling them that their natural instincts are wrong, that is just sick. It seems that because no one is making themselves beta through religion anymore, they have to find some other way to convince men to be beta, using the same techniques religion used.

I have a feeling that most of the guys who will go to it are beta to begin with though, and just want to surround themselves with other betas. Then they can talk about how they can't get laid because of "toxic masculinity" and hug it out so they feel better about it, because it isn't their fault, it's the "patriarchy" that is holding them back.

I don't see Chad attending and coming out of it like, "Damn yo, I better stop slaying pussy, and put a ring on my favorite plate so we can be monogamous for the rest of our lives!"

Maybe we should see if it's open to the public, and get some red pillers in there to throw them off. Say things like, "Marriage is toxic because it implies the woman belongs to you and you alone, and owning women is wrong!" and, "It's toxic to pay for dates because that implies that men are better off than women financially and that women are unable to take care of themselves!"

I'd love to see how the group and the feminists react to shit like that.

[–]warsie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd love to see how the group and the feminists react to shit like that.

most feminists would agree with you.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN "PRAY THE GAY AWAY" CAMPS???

how quickly the cultural pendulum swings

[–]Stythe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the fruition of the sneaky mentalities that led me to depression when I was younger. Now they make me angry, knowing the purpose is retardation of the quality of life.

That said, the anger has given me guide me to improve my life and as much as it'd be awesome to go back in time and unlearn my programming years ago, being able to see this now still reminds me to take it easy.

In regards to this, all I have to say is any group that expects me to explore my "toxic nature" better be willing to do the same, otherwise they're just bullies and they can suck my left nut.

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[–]angryguy4444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I learnt that 5 years old children are told about gender theory before they learn the name of the days of the week. The books they are given are called something like "Marc has two mums" or "Marc wears dresses".

I mean what the fuck. What is going to happen ten years from now when those people will have the right to vote?

[–]royal_fucktard 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Are they forgetting about testosterone? You can't re-write God. It would take thousands of years to brainwash the man out of men. What a waste of time.

[–]UtopianfreeMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bruh testosterone is declining by the year

[–]prodigy2throw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck these losers. Be happy you made it out and figure out how you can profit from these feminized weirdos.

Men's makeup and accessories is looking like a nice market to get into.

[–]invaderdim325 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They don't want to make you keep taking the bill pill they want to strap you down and shoot it in your veins.

[–]Moneyley 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The irony of it being the same university where the lacrosse team suffered endless unfounded scrutiny over the shit-faced slut that falsely accused them of rape. All they were guilty of was "looking" like somebody who "could" have raped her. One kid was literally a fuckin kid! Being men, I doubt that any of the accuse'es filed for "emotional distress" or "ptsd" like some women claim. They have a great case for it though, it was absolute GARBAGE what they went through over some ghetto hoodrat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mgb3VtVFgQ

[–]JohnnyRaz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wanna guess ((((who)))) is spearheading it?

[–]no_face 3 points4 points  (0 children)

.r.bluepill is leaking into the real world.

[–]razormachine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It will just create more man that are doomed to become bitter, and will backfire spectacularly.

The whole new wave feminism is pretty much "shoot yourself in the leg" in the long run.

[–]Banned_For_Opinion 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"story-telling" aka no logic or evidence, what so ever.... Have fun with that boys. So glad my college experience wasn't this toxic shit hole kids have to deal with these days.

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“male-identified”

hahaha, the lunatics are running the asylum.

[–]goldnhorde 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Here's the short.

I don't care if I am the last one or not. I am going to keep on being a man and proud of it. and a proud straight white man at that. I have had to do almost all of it on my own, and have made sure I paid my dues and interest when others helped me.

I never received my "get everything free" straight white guy card ... but after the crap I hear everyday ... I would take it in a second and laugh each time I revved up my Yacht. Why? I'm already paying for it.

So if being proud of myself and what I represent and the work I have accomplished makes me a bigot ... then I'm a bigot. call me a bigot. If it makes me sexist .... start calling me a sexist. Because the groups that would do that have played their cards too often and can't be taken seriously now. Also, they would be using discounted labels that have no truth in reality. just a label to try to shame me into not being a man ... are trying to feel guilty for being straight or white.

screw those guys. and as I have said before: "Why are all of those feminist pedophiles even talking to me? They don't like me. They don't offer me anything. I offer nothing to them. Why don't they get the clue and go the hell off somewhere?

It's not like we are ever going to see eye to eye.

It's not like guys like me aren't going to continue to get their "feminist" girls when they start having an "itch" or when they grow out of this phase.

It's not like the same little fish aren't going to show up at this event, and say the same tired rhetoric ... then have a few guys who just want to speak their mind get yelled out (loud equals right is one of the feminist favorite tactics) when they disagree and want a civil discussion.

I mean, I thought men were the barbarians ... but feminist can NEVEWR debate on a fair footing. they run like ... well, like bitches.

I really grew up with almost no hate. when I had it , it was personal. someone did something and I was mad at them. In my 40s 940S!!!!) these progressive liberal groups are teaching me to hate them in a dangerous and undefined stereotypical fashion.

it of course begins with them hating me and trying to shame me in a undefined and stereotypical fashion.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

most women don't want feminized men. Like sure, don't be a douchebag, but that's a given. Masculinity isn't about that; guys that act like fucking idiots to women are largely misguided about what masculinity is. Theirs is not a true masculinity imho, but their best imitation of waht being a man is like. Lack of good father figures is often a cause in my experience

[–]bat_mayn 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Universities are becoming a thing of the past. At the end of the day, highly driven, motivated people will look elsewhere to get their knowledge and training to better themselves. Life is short, it's even shorter if you have to devote a significant amount of it to training before you even start "living".

People are just going to opt out, men especially. Then these universities will be on welfare status and become nothing more than a farce. What is "prestigious" about enforced segregation quotas, race and gender based scholarships, gender and political discrimination? Nothing - it's nothing other than completely disgusting, a tragedy for the ages.

Men are simply going off the grid, they will self-educate if necessary.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

i don't fully agree. There is no way you can replicate the sciences elsewhere, at least not half as effectively. How are you going to participate in labs and other functions the university provides? LIke it or not, for a lot of things, university is still good and relevant for.

[–]bat_mayn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well that's why I refer to it as a tragedy for the ages..

No you can't replicate it without generations of rigorous organization and practice. Medical, engineering and hard sciences - they are going to be brutalized by this subversive, destructive movement.

In 20 years western countries will start to (literally) fall apart, because the most important fields will no longer be standardized in the way that they used to be. You will have leftist, communist bureaucracies ruling over the most disciplined fields with an iron fist.

People can self-educate and make enclaves on their own to survive, this will be good despite the total and unbelievable loss of higher institutions.

There is no end in sight. Western civilization is pushing hard for sweeping immigration, and it's going to cause total brain drain throughout all of society. It will be more important to fill all positions with a non-white skin color than to maintain the integrity of those fields.

It's over. This is what Globalism is supposed to be - obliterating the playing field and leveling it off below the mean, for the greatest measure of control.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don't have a college degree do you.

[–]Apexk9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of I went to duke I would either a pull a cartman or stand outside and protest it.

[–]Avskygod0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ayy lmao is all i can say

God forbid making it mandatory tho

[–]RP15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Solution:

1) Attend

2) get drunk

3) rip cigs

4) shit all over everything

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would like to sign up, but ironically.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Don't worry about it. It will only appeal to betas and women, whereas Chad will still act like Chad and get all the pussy. Treat them like the trolls they are - ignore.

[–]ArcadesRed 2 points3 points  (2 children)

More concerned about the kid who is unsure about himself and this program leads him down a path of hating himself for the next 15 years.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The red pill is here for everyone to read. Can't save people who don't want to save themselves

[–]ArcadesRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still sucks to see someone kick a puppy who doesn't know better.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"The Dukes Men's project [...] hosted by the Women's center"

There's your problem. Might as well be "The Warsaw Jews' project hosted by the Hitler center.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The men who attend these things are the same types of guys who were seen outside cities of the crumbling Roman empire whipping themselves as payback for their sinful ways so that God will make the Black Death go away.

In other words, they're fucking nut cases.

[–]Alpacash 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your history is a bit off, but I get the point.

[–]clonegreen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The signs seem to be clearer each day. There's a social war going on and if you're not taking a stand you're just as responsible.

[–]This_is_a_Test1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is the United States turning into North Korea? I used to dream of going to one of these big schools, but after reading about the insanity that festers within these institutions for years now; no thanks.

[–]mvfc76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the most blue pill thing I have ever read.

[–]grewapair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's being run by the campus women's center, which is usually a student group, not the university. Women's centers at universities are always a group of male-hating hambeasts.

Although universities are cesspools of SJW PC thought police, I don't see this as any sort of policy change by the University itself.

[–]IMR800X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Duke has always been a mangina academy.

Nothing new there.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Natural selection is going to be such a bitch. Reality will be even worse.

[–]igottennispenis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How the fuck am I supposed to ger out of the anger phase with this bullshit going on!? Gah!

We oughta get someone to stand outside that shit and pass out free copies of no more mr. nice guy

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine if a group of men encouraged women to deconstruct their toxic femininity?

[–]ChristopherBurr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the greatest thing I've ever heard of. Anyone who joins has already had their man card revoked. It just takes the weak out of the general population. So - there's a bunch of guys in class .. the women already know which ones are neckbeards. Such a shame going through college and not getting laid.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Imagine what it must be like in Academia right now - classrooms where 47 out of 50 students are women, while they teach "gender studies" and train the males on how "not to be a rapist". Imagine 16 years straight of the education process with no breaks in between. - They really didn't stand a chance.

[–]kanyewost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is not real no fucking way, don't tell me USA is that fucked up

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Classic beta indian hamster overload with that junior lol

https://www.google.it/search?q=Dipro+Bhowmik&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj15_HxlcHPAhUJCcAKHUZxADUQ_AUICSgC&biw=1292&bih=568

Really it's written on his face "oh my, blondes... please... blondes."

I think this feminization has a lot to do with visual seductive imagery. Like if a mind isn't free and the body isn't very alpha etc this totally fuck up young minds. To know these ladies are all giving it for free, they are all around you, cheering, and won't ever touch you with a stick or acknowledge your existence can make wonder to develop some schizo disorder.

[–]the_calibre_cat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, just out of curiosity, has anyone compiled, like, a website that details colleges in the United States and rates them for favorability to males? I like the idea of hitting leftist college administrators in the pocket book more than hitting any other person/group in the pocket book.

If not... we should get on that. It'd be like the BBB, but for colleges and men. It's even helpful for feminists, so it's equal opportunity! They can scroll down to the schools on the bottom of the list, and see which ones will confirm their pre-existing biases best!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The more they treat men like dysfunctional girls, the more reality and truth needs to be injected into their cold, dead hearts.

[–]highenergysanders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disagree. I love seeing crap like this. Thin the competition.

[–]Ainianu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am only going by the quotes, but "debate" implies presenting opposing views equally rather than suppresing/brainwashing. I would be up for that debate, if it was near where i lived :)

[–]Psychemistry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I graduated from this institution recently. My junior year, I was invited to attend a completely different "privilege retreat". The space was dominated by women/feminists, and I was accosted for simply having a penis. When I returned from that weekend, something didn't sit right in my soul about the state of the world. Then I found this sub.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem with this system is that it only takes one aware guy to break it. Most men are naturally drawn to a hierarchy, and if there is even one alpha as fuck guy who refuses to submit to this bullshit, who embodies true masculinity, then other guys will follow his lead and his example. Sure, there will be self flagellating betas who submit to this nonsense, but they will remain at the bottom of the hierarchy where they belong, others will see their failings, and they remain unfuckable pariahs.

[–]1PantsonFire1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just batshit insane. Amurica is fucked mennnn. If this shit flies over to the EU I am outa here.

Refugees and batshit feminism? Lol NOPE

[–]Cantpumpthefrump 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just fucking lmao at any "male" that still pays to go here.

[–]beltwaytr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh look another way young men are being forced out of the education system. This is getting out of hand, and every male student should move to have that program shut down.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ironic that Duke's mascot is the blue devil(s).

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

fuck me... i feel like i need to go to duke now and open a programme just for men, where we can do manly things, like drink beer and watch football, go camping, and play some sports ffs!

[–]watcher45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading this reminds me of that episode of "The Simpsons" where Homer joins the leader cult. Just think about the batman theme song loudly in your head and you'll be fine.

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Duke Men’s Project, launched.. and hosted by the campus Women’s Center,

= Shit Test - Do not fall for it.

[–]Gman777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone should open the exact same thing, turned inside-out for women that "self identify as female".

Seriously, what a load of shit.

[–]johnchapel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think whats ever gayer than this stupid class is that people think anyone but already-beta cucks will attend it.

Its not a class. It's another outlet for the echo chamber

[–]RP-on-AF1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Saving to read tomorrow before leg day. It will be good motivation at the squat rack. (The man forge, as I call it.)

[–]direpellth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no war in Ba Sing Se.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is this shit even legal?

[–]Imoldok 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really think that this subject should be thrown to the main body of reddit for female input, surely they must see this crap for what it is.

[–]bleed-red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is good, eventually these universities will be cranking out a bunch of sponge cakes. Less competition. Perfect.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can put it in a dress, pile flowers on it but at the end of the day horseshit is still horseshit. All these women are doing is biting the hand that feeds them.

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[–]ArcadesRed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't forget it seems to be in the women's center...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After Trump these sorts of camps will be outlawed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Man, how the fuck does anyone fall for this kind of shit?

Who on earth thinks this stuff is cool/good/worth being involved in?

[–]highenergysanders 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It goes something like this:

"If I prove how sensitive and in tune with feminism I am girls will be impressed and want to date me!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was laughing so hard through this post I almost didn't make it to the comments.

In all seriousness, thanks for posting this. It's shit like this that reassures me of the necessity of our community.

[–]Diabolical_Nuke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish I was going to Duke so I could troll the shit out of them

[–]OSaraiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's crazy how America is looking more and more like a ripoff of the Soviet Union by what you post here.

[–]N_buck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got perpetually pissed while reading. Gonna go punch queen bees.

[–]LOST_TALE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

''they are coming for your balls.'' LOL

[–]SickOfIt518 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit, anyone submitting to that should just castrate themselves and get it over with!

[–]warsie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suspect Manosphere people will take it over and turn it into a pro-male and anti SJW male safe space.

[–]jewishsupremacist88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

i wonder how many negros are gonna be subjected to this..or arabs.

[–]crinoidgirl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Negros"? What century do you live in?

[–]Nyquil-Junkie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gentlemen repeat after me; I'm a man. I apologize.

Good boy. Here's a cookie.

[–]ItsCold_ItsCold 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Encouraged" now, required course later.

[–]BabyDogOfJustice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyone who signs up for that course is a male....NOT A MAN!

I try to make a point of mentioning to my friends the difference, "never refer to those males as men....it's insulting to the rest of us!"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This makes me feel the same way I felt when I watched Neighbors 2 a few weeks ago. Fuck this.

[–]murvish45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol it isn't mandatory. Just dont go lol

[–]hbdale309 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is it; for first time since H.W., I will vote Republican. This will never end, and get much worse w/ Hilary.

[–]Noolaw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suggest the solution to the problem is to promote lifting and everything will solve itself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It will stop once isis or some other barbaric shit tskes over.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Fuck Duke! I keep saying over and over if you go to college stick to either a Conservative School like Liberty, Oral Roberts, Grand Canyon or similar schools if not that an online-only school like Thomas-Edison University.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Liberty

Definitely don't go to Liberty if you care about science at all.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True for the science part, but you can still go for the business degrees.

[–]gmflag 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As an alumnus of Duke, I am embarassed by the school's direction.

[–]NeoreactionSafe -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

 

The first few minutes talk about Reno, Nevada being the new "Offshore Tax Haven" for the globalist bankers, but then they talk about Burning Man and their weird census:

 

https://youtu.be/J8QkUSl3m4I

 

...the objective is to confuse people about their natural body.

 

[–]OilyB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is what happens when you cram a few million of the dregs of European society into one beautiful piece of continent: for centuries, people mistake 'land' for 'country'.

The best part of the discourse is - in appr 10 years, the birth rate in the US will go through the floor and the world will be rid of all of y'all crazy mfs.

[–]chances_are_ur_a_fag -1 points0 points  (2 children)

a space by men and for men.

just because one is a male does not automatically make them a man. fucking hamster fags

[–]Gman777 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wouldn't a sports bar fit the bill? ;)

[–]Calypto- -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't at all be surprised if kikes were behind this.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

"ultra-betas" Do you mean deltas?

[–]i_have_a_semicolon -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Forgive me, since when is being introspective and having discussions a bad thing?

If they really hated masculinity they wouldn't create the class but instead insist that it cease to exist. If masculinity needs a revamp because of feminism, I mean, I wouldn't argue against that. Rather be masculine and accepted by society than masculine and rejected. You can still identify as misogynistic in your locker rooms. But in public now you could start influencing on what is considered masculine in this post-feminist world. I think all TRP inclined men should be happy such a class exists. As long as you could present you view intelligently and backed by evidence, how could a university honestly condemn that speech ? I think the point of this is to open a conversation. Instead of viewing it as an attack, view it as an opportunity.

Believe me. There's no revolution happening where you take back your masculinity by storm, it's just not happening and you know it. Instead of rejecting society now, why not try to influence it, so that it becomes closer to what you want it to be. If that means you go and say it's not masculine to talk about your thoughts, that's fine. Go and define masculinity for others even if it means being slightly feminine for 30 minutes. Believe me, a true masculine man would not become effeminate because he simply discussed masculinity in the presence of women.

[–]stawek 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As long as you could present your view intelligently and backed by evidence, how could a university honestly condemn that speech

Look guys, I found an alien impostor. No way he could be living on our planet.

[–]i_have_a_semicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe my university was different than the average then