I've seen posted around reddit recently that we're starting to get grouped in with the incels. While it should be clear that we are not associated with them, let's make this very clear, autistically clear.
I'm not here to write for controversy, but instead for people to understand the issue. If anyone actually cared about the people's lives who were lost, they'd read this, and take action from it. But I don't expect anyone to care, or take action, and I would go so far to say that even people who are involved in the media that read this will disregard the information here and push for views to get that sweet sweet adrev until the next misguided, desperate sexless guy at the end of his rope shows up in a crowded area to kill a bunch of innocent people.
I knew blood was on Reddit's hands the minute they closed down that sub.
I don't typically write content with the intention to judge, but today, I'm judging.
Park Deitz, a Forensic Psychologist, along with many other mental health professionals have advocated against many of the practices that mainstream media companies use to sensationalize this behavior. Yet these organizations operate agnostically as if they are unable to control the outcome, even with feigned malicious inaptitude as if they don't understand or realize they provide a platform for society's rejects to get up and make their statement.
These men make a statement when they take the lives of innocent people, and if any of these media companies cared about preventing such a thing in the future, or even curbing it, they wouldn't fuel the message of an "incel revolution" but they've given credence to people who self identify with this idea that at one point everyone thought was a joke, that started on 4chan as the "beta uprising."
"If you're lonely and unsuccessful with women, when you're ready to give up, kill a bunch of people, and we'll be here to make you the anti-hero."
So this most certainly isn't the last time we'll hear of this, and just like school shootings, I won't at all be surprised when this becomes a recurring issue. I knew the moment that sub closed down that someone would pay for that with their life.
TRP as a "system" analyzes and trades notes within a woman's short term mate selection paradigm.
Incels are involuntary celibate. That is, they do not have sex.
Traditional, monogamous, long term relationships, are frowned upon here. They are considered a fool's errand. (Since women can not negotiate attraction, and men harbor the duty of performance, making any such arrangement willful ignorance at best)
Casual sex, obviously, being much more difficult for men near a median level of attractiveness to obtain, puts this group pretty far and away past the types of men within the incel grouping.
So you should understand now that the primary audience for this group, are men that are interested in having sex with women, without having traditional long term relationships.
The system here advocates for "spinning plates" which is our ingroup speak for having sex in an uncommitted relationship with more than one woman at a time. This is equivalent to what people in the left call "hookup culture." We advocate competing within this culture.
Incels, on the other hand, understand they are incapable of competing within this culture, and even unable to obtain a girlfriend, which is considerably less difficult to compete for than a casual sex partner.
Why do we appear to share somewhat similar views?
Incels seek information to understand their position in the world. They've tried all the advice that's been given to them by family, friends and other groups on the internet. Yet they remain lonely and unsuccessful. So they are forced to study female behavior at a level that is considered atypical. They begin to over time understand that they are physically uncompetitive specimens, low status awkward outcasts or maybe self aware enough to realize they have significant personality disorders scaring women away.
TRP subjects men who are not Über males to a large shock as they begin to understand women are just as if not more superficial as men. The primary difference being that women are born into a blind entitlement, who will never know what is like to try and have sex and fail, some for years or even decades at at time.
It is as much of a shock for men who have had limited success with women through serial monogamy to learn they've functioned as useful idiots as it is for men who have no success with women to learn how much work they need to get anywhere at all.
The difference between these two outliers (men who can compete within the STR paradigm, and men who can not compete *at all, either STR or LTRs) is the median. The "rest" of men function more or less as useful idiots to women, whether they understand it or not. This is clearly demonstrated in sexual selection literature.
A small fraction of men are within relationships where he is her best choice. In these cases, these men are not often useful idiots, but instead jackpots. Mr. Dreamy. These are men with top physical traits, highly sociable, usually successful financially who choose to compete within a woman's preference. Rather than using his superior physical genetics to obtain many short term mates, he chooses one woman. They are the men whose words pull the least weight in this argument, but argue the most loudly without any self awareness whatsoever.
If you believe we share similar views, it's because you don't understand the content here or you're not self aware enough. Likely because you've functioned as a useful idiot or align more with female preferential sexual strategy. You've been selected against (likely) as a controllable mate, you see no downside to this arrangement (believe that serial monogamy is preferred to polygamy), and therefore you either can't understand your genetic advantages over these other men (incels) or you can't understand the mechanisms men use to compete with women within their short term paradigm (TRP) to maximize their sexual success.
If you understood the content here and didn't harbor a view that played so well into female sexual strategy, you'd understand we're actually polar opposite of each other.
Why do men need TRP at all? What about the men who have success without these groups?
They don't need it. Men come here because they are unhappy or looking to increase their sexual success. They could choose to remain in the pattern they're in, but they've chosen for one reason or another to come here and break out. What they're doing from a top down, systems analysis, game theory perspective, is breaking out of a woman's LTR preference, which is conflated as the way women date and instead understanding women from a raw arousal standpoint.
Plenty of already attractive men, who were born with superior genetics coast on that until they land in here after their first, or maybe even second divorce. This is when they are forced to understand concepts like Facta Non Verba, or, watch what she does. This conflicts with the largely held view that women operate at a rational level in a relationship. To be clear, such a thing can never be possible. If it were, women could circumvent evolution itself.
TRP's position is that a woman's arousal takes precedence over her responsibilities as a mother or her loyalty as a partner. Such a thing can be easily demonstrated by looking at egalitarian countries, who have higher divorce rates, and much lower numbers of children growing up within the house of their biological father. Also of consideration is a disproportionate number of women who file divorce. Finally, when raising children in the nuclear family is no longer a societal priority, physical dimorphism increases.
This is because while men are polygamous, women are hypergamous. This demonstrates absent societal structuring to prevent women acting in ways they prefer, they will choose to nomadically change mates to the detriment of themselves (female happiness paradox) and their children. If such a thing wasn't true, then the absence of male valued systems of control wouldn't have an effect on the rate in which women change partners or stay in the nuclear family. Yet they do, because as we say, tingles uber alles.
What many of these men take for granted is that they often are
- Conventionally attractive
- Functioning as useful idiots for women
Speaking frankly, but likely above your reading level for the content here, most women select against for long term relationships. The type of men within the incel community would never be considered short term mates, since such enormous numbers of much more attractive mates are on supply.
This means that many of these men figure out that even if they were to procure a relationship, they understand they'd be chosen because they
- Are easily controlled
- Provide resources
- Are a temporary mate until a more attractive one can be obtained.
- Would likely be cheated on
More or less, they begin to understand how useless they are within the system. This concept here is called "male disposability." And that even if they were to become more attractive through significant effort and sacrifice, that they could still lose a significant portion of their life in the event the relationship fails, leaving them on the hook for child support or losing assets. Men who lack the physicality or intelligence to even compete to this level of "high beta" begin to resent women for having such a low level of necessary competence or value in the world outside of their youth and or attractiveness.
Upper middle class women would argue that many women struggle with the same issue. Yet they aren't alone, they're merely too choosy to be saddled with an "unattractive" partner, even if, they are unattractive. If you were to pair these women with men of equal attractiveness, they'd consider these men beneath them. As is often demonstrated, women select on the pareto distribution. 20% of men are attractive, and 80% are invisible. Most incel men are in the bottom 20%. The idea that "everyone has their equal" isn't true for men because this also, would conflict with the purpose of evolution, which serves to increase genetic quality and diversity.
One need not look further than the advertisements of prostitutes to see that men are willing to stoop pretty low, for a chance at intimacy, even if more shallow and less long term. Frankly speaking, voluntary celibacy is not the same as being involuntarily celibate.
And frankly speaking, from what I outlined above, these men lack the physicality to stumble into the sexual marketplace by accident and have success. And so we are united in a forced understanding of women, yet for different reasons. The readers at TRP do so, to become more successful with women and men who identify as incel do so to understand their failures in life or because we provide the only explanation as to how they may even create a suboptimal solution for themselves.
The divergence between our groups is the men here accept these facts and change how they compete. Many incels do not. Instead they use our content as a way to justify their misery, when most are physically able to compete, just lacking the strategy and mindset.
I have created a post in my post history that helps these men, and have received many messages of thanks. To this I will make the strongest point of this group.
Incels are the creation of male duty and honor
The saddest realization I had when I made the post for incels to understand sexual theory, was a realization that many of these men struggled competing on the level that women compete on in the sexual marketplace. Women who have high sexual value simply need to put themselves onto an online platform and they are assured to get messages pouring in. Even average women are bombarded. And there are not as many sexual messages as they'd like to claim, it's just part of the flood. Regardless, the average number of messages a median woman gets, is infinitely higher.
That's not hyperbole, it's literal. The average number of messages a median male gets on an online dating platform is zero.
These men were stuck in decision paralysis because no one was telling them that they could date these women and leave them. This may be a hard thing for a normal person to digest. But these men were so stuck in male duty and honor, that they couldn't push themselves to compete within the sexual market in a way they considered dishonest.
That they could be the low value "controllable" man that a woman searches for, who isn't her best option, and turn her down for marriage.
There is an odd paradoxical sadness in that male incels often times have internal standards that are too high.
This can be boiled down to this conceptual shorthand.
Take the average involuntary celibate man, match him with a woman who is of equal levels of attractiveness, and they are both hypothetically obligated by totalitarian enforcement to be loyal to each other till they die, most of these men would take this agreement, almost no women would.
We explain to men why such an arrangement isn't feasible. (Hypergamy, SMV differential, etc) Men in TRP use this information to formulate their sexual strategy to one that is designed for long term stability. Incels use this information to help understand their state.
The truth of the matter is that some men, normally short men or men who are foreign, have valid concerns. Their best case option is to pray that the woman that they marry doesn't cheat on them militantly and divorce them. They know in their heart of hearts it's unlikely they'll ever be a woman's number one. And even at TRP, many men try to point to a man like Kevin Hart, yet if you took away all the money and status he has, Kevin Hart could likely be just as discouraged. Men below the median height of women have an extremely difficult time finding partners.
Naive men say they're just "be themselves" or "approach more" away, some of these guys having confided to having done hundreds or thousands of approaches to me.
These men deserve to understand the truth, that women select based on height as one of their primary selection mechanisms. A fact, so indisputable that it serves as a canary in a coal mine as to how misinformed most men and women are in regards to sexual selection. Such a choice is so obviously innate to the species and yet most men and women would insist that such a preference "isn't universal." Which is only true in the most obscenely absolutist, truth deaf way. True in the sense that not all men dislike having their balls stomped on with high heels.
Tell that to men who are 5'2" tall, who have tried speaking to a thousand women. Who are competing for a small subset of women who are that height or smaller, who are selecting men who are 6'0". Too bad, so sad, be more yourself, stop hating women, you aren't entitled to them.
Die alone, loser.
And yet these same men are confined to their rooms, scouring the internet for some solution to their misery that doesn't involve treating women in the way that "those dirty misogynists at TRP" do.
They are looking at a group that has solutions to maximize potential, so that they may position themselves as having something. Lamenting that they'll have to grow the fortitude to treat women in ways that they've been treated. Discarded at a moments notice, for trivial errors in the dance of attraction, because they lack the raw arousal characteristics they learn are potent in sexual selection.
To the casual observer, a lack of regard to sensitivity that we have is unable to be separated out from the hatred many of these self identified men have that seeks as a way to soothe their intense inner sadness from a world that has rejected them, giving them little options to grow from.
The violent incel program
- Take away a support groups for some of the lonliest, purposeless human beings on the planet.
- Deride them for their failures.
- Offer them no actionable solutions.
- Be surprised when lonely, purposeless human beings, who are being derided for their failures, with no actionable solutions lash out after taking away their support groups.
Truth is the matter is a lot of these guys could have remained within their "in group" as outcast loners. But taking down one of their last spots to hide away and bemoan their own lives sent a message I thought was dangerous.
There is no spot a man is allowed to have in the world where he can be accepted for being sexually unsuccessful, not even in an obscure part of the internet.
Think about that level of isolation. It's dark to even consider and to accept this black truth.
If you're wondering why incels come here, it's because you've provided no actionable advice for these men and taken away their last refuges. Until the only thing that makes any sense in their world is to pick up a gun or jump in a vehicle and kill innocent people as one last jab back at a world that if it operated with the claimed empathy and equality it purports, would have focused on helping these guys out a long time ago. And any claims that we should be the ones helping them are about as absurd as someone who has never played blackjack coming to a blackjack pro convention. The only reason that player is here is because there are literally no other places for him to go.
And FYI, that isn't just a "mental health" issue. If you criminalize being unattractive, then these men will "choose" to be criminals. Frankly I consider the mental state of incel men to be that of a society inflicted complex. Where men who are not attractive enough are told a variety of means to achieve their goal which are ineffective, persisting in a state of society induced insanity.
Where the only solution to this insanity is a group of men who do know how to exploit sexual selection mechanisms, yet have no sympathy for such divergent men who run literally counter to their mission to maximize male sexual success.
More or less, society, get your shit together. You stopped overt, easy to spot physical bullying and transitioned all that negative energy to "misogynistic men who feel entitled to women's bodies." These men don't get their ass kicked in gym class anymore, and I would argue such a thing would be a positive to some of these guys. Instead, the world puts them in a box and tells them the key is in their heart.