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Red Pill TheoryQuick tips to Staying Lit: Non-Sidebar Review (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Full-Time_Lurker

*Red Pill GOLD I have acquired from 3 years of Lurking this Sub. THIS IS REVIEW. Make sure you didn't miss any of this! *

Lean back not forward.


Do not seek validation from others. You are good enough. You are good enough for you. That's all.


You are a man, and she is a woman, that's enough no matter what. Everything else is a shit test. Everything is a shit test. Women test you constantly. -> IGNORE, agree and amplify, "You're soo right about me, I'm actually really like that!" /sarcasm.


Get some sun. Shower. Deodorize. Hair product. Floss. Style.


Never feel obligated to explain yourself to anyone.


Try flipping the pressure: "Are you Okay?" -> "I'm great, How are you?"


2/3rds rule. If a woman talks 3 times, texts 3 times, talk or text 2 times. Every time. Her 3 to your 2.


Let people talk about themselves, be a good listener, be genuinely interested and genuinely kind yet firm. Be stoic. Maintain frame.


Stick to your principles. It does not matter what you are confident about as long as you are in fact confident. Confidence is the #1 thing women are drawn to. Experience builds confidence. Approach.


Lift. Cardio. Diet healthy. Happy body, happy mind.


Live for now, anxiety is living in the future with worry, depression is living in the past with regret. Throw that shit in the trash. Live for today. Plan ahead. Let it go. Don't stress.


Have a good day. At the end of each day make sure you are closer to your goals and who you wanna be. In time you will become who you wanna be.


Avoid alcoholism and drug addiction like the plague, everything in moderation. You do not need a lot of something to enjoy it, too much of anything is a bad thing.


Bad things happen to good people. Such is life. Stay alert, stay confident. Seek spiritual peace.


Make more money than your women, or lie and say you do. Someone asks where you work ? Strip club. You do not owe anyone anything, or any info. Make sure your white lies are seen as having fun. Girls just wanna have fun. Have fun with them.


Do not get married. Unless it is on your terms (very rare). Do not get married too young. Even then, what do you stand to gain from marriage ? Tread carefully here. Long term relationships are the red pill on expert mode.


Hold off on having kids. Make sure you're ready. Kids are a financial responsibility. Are you stable financially enough for this ?


Divorce rape happens every day. Men lose their entire kingdom over one fight or falling out. Courts may fuck you and side with the women. Are you willing to risk this ?


Look everyone in the eyes. If someone looks you in the eyes longer than you look them in the eyes, they are stronger. No need to intimidate. Simply smirk, nod, smile, laugh. Remember you are confident.


If a women looks abruptly at the ground, bends over, or gestures to you by staring, smiling, waving, or doing a double take, this is her invitation for Approach. Their deepest desire is for you to see it.


Kino. Increase physical contact inch by inch. Hand on the thigh. Did she pull away ? Hold her hand. Its all 4 play fam. Do not kiss unless you're ready to fuck. No need to rush, do not let yourself get friend zoned and you will not be friend zoned.


Don't be a creep. Go for girls who are legal and willing. Society will shit all over you, stay vigilant.


Your mission comes before everything else in life. Your mission is more important than women, than friends. Pick a long term goal, a mission. This is your meaning in life. It is ok to take your time on this.


Stick to a budget, people "good with money" all stick to a budget. This is adult life.


Stand up straight. Shoulders broad. Walk slowww.


Talk slow. Make your words count.


Be narcissistic, be red pill, be psychopathic, be manipulative. Do what you must do to get what you want.


Women desire a man who "sees what he wants, then goes and gets it" this is evolutionary. Bring home the kill. Bring home the bacon. Or you are disposable. Such is life.


The first rule of fight club, is you do not talk about fight club. It will only bring shame and trouble.


Live it, do not say it, talk is cheap. Actions over words. Reals before feels.


Get a good nights sleep. Meditate. Enjoy life.


Peace

  • Full_Time-Lurker

PS - Remember to be open minded. People know a lot of stuff that you do not know. Listen & Learn.

*PROTIP - Misogyny is not the goal here. Healthy relationships, self-improvement, getting laid, and happiness. Above all else. FREEDOM. SUCCESS. Keep trying. You will fail. Keep trying. These are the goals. Good luck.


[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 233 points234 points  (48 children)

ALSO: Men will shit test you too. Your friends will shit test you. Same rules apply here.

You have to have enough confidence for the both of you, no matter who you're with.

Same rules apply to family. They will test you. Get in good with your mom. Get close to her. This is key.

[–]Psychocist 71 points72 points  (22 children)

Err.. how close should I get to my mum? :/

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 119 points120 points  (20 children)

Haha. If you can. Confide in friends and family. I have fought with my mother my whole life. I see the same problems I have with mom arise with my girlfriends all the time. Girls say "see how he treats his mom, if he treats her right he's a good guy." No weird shit. Just be nice to your old lady. She loves u.

[–]Psychocist 156 points157 points  (17 children)

Yep. Fact is, if you're lucky, she is the only source of unconditional love and acceptance you will ever find in this life. Irreplaceable but easy to take for granted if she's been a constant.

[–]john_dove 73 points74 points  (15 children)

As much as I love and respect my mother, I don't like to put her on pedestal. I've realized she's emotional, manipulative and difficult to reason with. I like to STFU and stay away as being in the same room is cause for friction and headache.

[–]Psychocist 118 points119 points  (7 children)

Well, she is a woman, after all. My mum was deeply troubled. I felt the same. Then I found her dead in her flat one morning last year.

Keep telling yourself not to put her on a pedestal, then see how you feel when she's gone forever. The worst thing about it is that I neglected our relationship to go chase sluts. As I say, gotta be careful not to take those constants for granted - they're not constants.

[–]WelfareWarriorZ 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Sorry to hear that brother. My condolances.

[–]Psychocist 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Thanks. Over the worst of it, thankfully.

[–]john_dove 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I'm really sorry for your loss and really that thing scares me. My parents are old and I stay away from them and every once a while I feel guilty of not caring enough.

Although, my earlier comment was on the recent fact that my parents visited me recently for few months. I took them around multiple states. All the bells and whistles as I just wanted them to be happy, but every week it was a sob story (with real crying) as to how I don't care for them.

I'd still stand by earlier stance. I love her and would try my best to make their life comfortable and happy. At the same time, I don't the shitty behavior and certainly not the drama.

[–]Psychocist 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think it can be really rough. My mum suffered from bad drug addiction and I tried many times over the years to help her, but she always went back. You can't change people, and if there is something you don't like you simply have to tolerate it or stay away.

Sounds like you've done what you can. You care, but you are not responsible for how they live their later years.

[–]SoulRedemption 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear about your loss. I know for a fact that I take my mom for granted, and always act like I don't care much about her thoughts too much. But once in awhile it hits me in the gut like a fucken belly flop from a 50 meter drop, that ones she is gone, there will be no one that will unconditionally love me. Not a single person that can replace her. There is a background story to this.

She is not perfect, she is a woman, she has negative things. Yet, when I look around, once she is gone. That's it.

It's a little sad on my part that I don't play on emotion and hold strong with her. Such is life.

[–]SoulRedemption 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know why exactly they are saying you don't care about them enough. But, I find sometimes, a simple call, or a message a day or a week is what they are looking for.

Whilst others look for more money and things, above is from parents who may really fucken love ya.

Sometimes parents also want to be the number "one". Hope you find your peace.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

However, maintain respect for Mom. She gave you life. Enjoy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Depends. Mine was a worthless cunt the world (end especially I) am better of without.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that dude. My cousins mom is like that, fuck everything about those people. We all have to overcome different things.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 21 points22 points  (3 children)

YES. Do not put mom on a pedestal. She's just an old woman. You are a man. Do not put mom on a pedestal = Do not put women on a pedestal. Master confidence and amused mastery in the face of mother and you become a man.

[–]Ehipassika 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Indeed, I found that mother test a lot my confidence by trying to seed doubt in me but after test passed all good. Also don't try to change mother but accept the way she is. Amused mastery indeed.

[–]OnlyTRP 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You forgot /s at the end I suppose?

[–]SoulRedemption 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cannot agree with this more.

[–]NMF_ 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I feel like I get shit tested more by men now than women. I think it's jealousy over my success (I've capitalized on some good fortunes over the past year to be in a really good spot right now)

[–]redvelvet_oreo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I feel like this depends on your environment. This happened to me last year when I was around people who didn't necessarily do as well as i did. Even though some made more money than me my life style was 10 times more amazing then their entire lively hood. They were married w/ kids and miserable. Couldn't go to a local bar with out asking for permission or just down right saying NO because of the fact.

This constantly led to jealous dudes shit testing my masculinity almost every hour of the day. At t he end I got up and left for a job paying more than everyone and working less because I put my priorities in front of any woman i was fucking around with during the time and I was committed to my goals and not worried about anyone else's lifestyle.

[–]JFMX1996 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Take it as a good sign. I see it as a compliment, they test to to see what you're about.

"Is this dude the real deal?" "What's this guy like?"

etc.

If they didn't, it's a sign they don't even notice you or bother. If they're testing you, it might be to vet you and see if you're a capable friend or a soft-ass who will get triggered at any slight ball-busting, guy-ish behavior.

It shows you're making progress.

Agree-and-amplify, or put the pressure on them if you're witty enough. Just don't react emotionally. Use calculated humor.

[–]Endorsed Contributorredpillbanana 25 points26 points  (2 children)

...and kids. They are the biggest shit-testers.

[–]look_good 21 points22 points  (0 children)

"women are children"

huh makes sense

[–]GoinMonk 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Same rules apply to family. They will test you. Get in good with your mom.

That's a big one. I used to think for the longest time that you should be careful with your appearances to everyone except with your family, because they're the only ones who truly love you. That's blue pill fantasy bullshit. Your parents are human beings, same as everyone else. The only difference is they had to fucking raise you as a kid, if anything that gives them more reason to despise you than anyone else (joking, fellas).

Treat your mom like you would treat any other female. Of course the end goal is not to fuck her, but to be in good terms. Don't open up to her, maintain frame, she has to see you as a man, not her little baby, otherwise she'll have control over you and will get you off the track.

[–]Alexinfinite01 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It's true. And the worst part is that in all probability she will be meaning well when she does it. Although I actually have to thank my mother for directing me to the redpill and Rollo tomassi

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 5 points6 points  (4 children)

This is so stupid and wrong. Women love their kids more than they love anything, they become deeply attached emotionally to their kids like they dont do with a partner. Comparing a mom to a girlfriend is absolutely ridiculous, you are basically denying red pill theory by making the comparison. You know why women want high-SMV men? Because they have the best genetics. Why do they care about good genetics? For breeding purposes. What are they breeding? Kids ffs. Its the ENTIRE purpose. You have to look no further than to look at all the female animals that will KILL to defend their breed.

[–]GoinMonk -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Women love their kids more than they love anything

Yeah, that's blue pill mentality. It must be nice to live in your fantasy world where mothers don't kill their children. And that's just counting the most extreme case which is killing, without going into the number of mothers who neglect their children orr fuck with their heads during childhood, or the ones who don't give a shit in general.

I'll say the same thing I said to the other person who replied: you have a good mom. Go tell her you love her and enjoy your gift. And then get off your bubble and realize not everyone is as privileged. If you have a good mom then my post above simply doesn't apply to you. Just suck it up you special snowflake.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Dude, some mothers are irresponsible as fuck and should never have had kids in the first place because they are solipstic. But they are mostly the exception to the rule (just like how complete psychos arent AWALT). To say that you should treat your mom like a girlfriend is just flat out retarded, because in a case where you have a mom who is irresponsible, nasty, psychotic as fuck you should COMPLETELY abandon her, is a girl like that as well? Then yeah, abandon her, you dont even wanna date her in the first place.

But if youre not the exception to the rule then dont listen to this terrible piece of advice. A mom is the only woman that will ever give you unconditionally love, a girlfriend, wife, friend will never do that. Never.

[–]GoinMonk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To say that you should treat your mom like a girlfriend

You're putting words in my mouth.

A mom is the only woman that will ever give you unconditionally love

Alright, keep believing in unconditional anything.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you dont believe in unconditional anything you shouldnt believe in red pill theory. The reason for that is, its BIOLOGICALLY attached that a mother will feel that UNCONDITIONAL connection with her child. If you dont acknowledge that you dont understand TRP or biology.

[–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Don't open up to her, maintain frame, she has to see you as a man, not her little baby, otherwise she'll have control over you and will get you off the track.

Wow, what a terrible attitude. Some people have GOOD mums, despite their flaws. My mum knew EVERYTHING about me and never once tried to control me or send me off track. All she cared about was my happiness.. and, obviously, my love for her.

You are walking around in a reality that simply doesn't exist. Maintain frame with your mum? She has got to see me as a man? Are you joking? No mum will ever see you as a man. You will always be her little boy. My God. Incredible this has been upvoted.

[–]GoinMonk 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Some people have GOOD mums, despite their flaws.

You're right, some people do.

My mum knew EVERYTHING about me and never once tried to control me or send me off track. All she cared about was my happiness.. and, obviously, my love for her.

You have a good mom. Great, man, all the power to you. And cherish your privilege, because...

You are walking around in a reality that simply doesn't exist. Maintain frame with your mum? She has got to see me as a man? Are you joking? No mum will ever see you as a man. You will always be her little boy. My God. Incredible this has been upvoted.

...you're living in your own solipsism. Some of us have shitty parents and we screw ourselves over by putting up with their shit for way too long, because we're told by society that "family comes above all else". We grow up thinking having a mentally unstable, manipulative bitch of a mom is perfectly normal and that you should love her because "muh family".

Believe me, if I was still living with my mom I would be dead. Moving out was the best decision I made in life, even though I had to deal with living in piss-poor conditions for the longest time. Right now I'm in good terms in with her and respect her for giving me birth. But I had to break out of the blue pill fantasy that family is the most important thing, because that only applies to a very small percent of the population.

[–]Psychocist 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you're living in your own solipsism. Some of us have shitty parents and we screw ourselves over by putting up with their shit for way too long

That isn't what I was contending though, is it? You were giving a prescription for how we should treat our mums based on your own shitty experiences with your mum. Who is living in their own solipsism?

Moving out of my mum's place was also one of the best moves I made, but that still doesn't mean we should all maintain frame, be seen as a man, etc, etc. with her. That's all I pushed back against.

[–]GoinMonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's fair enough, I respect your opinion.

I still maintain that most people should maintain frame to any female, and that includes their mom. If you can open up to your mom and have her support you rather than getting judged because you're not living your life the exact way she wanted, then lucky you, man.

[–]LOST_TALE 1 point2 points  (2 children)

shit I've been shit testing people for a while! thx trp

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lol. It's human nature. You're welcome. Have a good day.

[–]LOST_TALE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, not in this way. Stefan Molyneux and TRP have led to a more conscious and rational approach, looking at not just what is, but what failed to manifest, thus partially de-normalizing some expectations, and comparing someone to the full range of behavior (including behavior so extreme and out of the bell curve that it has never been found). At-least, that's the framework.

[–]gELSK 0 points1 point  (1 child)

// , What if your mother is a Feminist SJW who cares more about her ideology than the well being of her own spawn?

[–]boredepression -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Courts WILL fuck you and side with the woman. 99.99% of the time, even if she is a child beating whore. Happened to my buddy.

[–]ZelixNocturna 82 points83 points  (1 child)

I don't normally comment on Reddit much but I'm going to read this shit every morning like it's the Bible

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Yes. Thanks that's what this post is for. It's all the stuff I have picked up from other Red Piller's in my time lurking here.

[–]kidwithambition[🍰] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

You cannot bake a cake without the instructions,

Thanks for the reminder, THIS is what TRP is all about.

[–]mountainbiker178 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Fuck her like it's the last time

[–]phlcons76 103 points104 points  (1 child)

Gold. Your title pulled me in. Love your short and concise points that all ring home.

Thanks

[–]for_cris 31 points32 points  (0 children)

This. It's not some wall of text that subtly hides anger. It's precise, non-profuse, productive facts.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Great points.

[Do not marry] Unless it is on your terms (very rare)

Marriage is NEVER on your terms. Prenups get thrown out when it suits the woman. It might look to be on your terms now. It won't be in the future. Simply avoid it. You'll be happy you did in 5, 10 or 15 years time.

[–]theloveofpower 1 points1 points [recovered]

In fight club they are meant to break all rules. They're meant to talk about fight club.

FIY.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Exactly. Now you are getting it. Tread carefully. Who you introduce the red pill too will change the outcome here. Men do not take to this information easily. And women wonder how the fuck we know it. "you're not supposed to know that"

[–]Hiimusog 16 points17 points  (3 children)

So true. Had a plate over 2 nights ago and everything went perfectly. She was like "you must have read the book, how do you do everything so smoothly".

A man armed with TRP is truly a powerful force.

[–]feoen 1 points1 points [recovered]

This is a noob question, but what does by the book really look like? I've read so much TRP I don't know how to simply hold a conversation with a woman I am gaming anymore. I'm always looking out for shit tests, kino opportunities, and one upping my own agree and amplifies.

What else would make it by the book?

[–]Hiimusog 12 points13 points  (0 children)

When it is so natural that you are not actively looking for shit tests, kino etc. You act and react without having to analyse the moment.

[–]SelfTaughtPiano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best way to put it is "inner game".

Ironically, the book of pook explains it really well.

[–]smyger 0 points1 point  (1 child)

" And women wonder how the fuck we know it. "you're not supposed to know that"" Know what exactly?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THE RED PILL. Everything we talk about here. No one is doing this. Talking strategy on women. The Blue Pill Disney "women are perfect" bullshit people spread when you're young, thats what you're "supposed" to think. Women EXPECT it because most guys are beta. Watch the matrix. Neo takes the Red Pill and wakes up. You're not supposed to know the robots are running everything. We here at the Red Pill are the men on that ship in the Matrix. Fighting the unfair system that has taken us over without us even realizing. Thanks

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

nice relief from the endless walls of texts here...

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 88 points89 points  (59 children)

You have not read closely enough.

Do not get married, PERIOD.

Marriage is not "Red Pill on Expert Mode". It's "I made a critical error prior to finding the Red Pill that I cannot now undo without suffering financial risk and loss. I now need the Red Pill simply to maintain what I have."

Marriage is an unnecessary risk. It provides no tangible benefit. It's a game of Russian Roulette: if you win, you get to keep living, which you could have done by not playing in the first place.

The rest of your guide is all right.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 21 points22 points  (19 children)

Yes I know. It is something I am personally conflicted on. Why get married ? Idk. To each their own.

[–]jairothevaca 39 points40 points  (16 children)

If you want to have a kid, it's way better to have a wife. A good wife, of course.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 13 points14 points  (15 children)

Yes. Red Pill women exist. There is even a sub for it. Avoid red flags. Avoid feminists if you must. Find women with similar mindsets to you. You are captain. She is co-captain. And thats ok. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Good women are happy with this. It's all about respect. Respect her, respect yourself first.

[–]TangoZulu 14 points15 points  (12 children)

Saying "she is co-captian" is a sign that perhaps you haven't fully ingested Red Pill. You are hedging your words to satisfy the feminist dogma of complete equality in all things. The fault in this thinking is of course that with two equal co-captians, there is no firm leadership and no decisions can be made in the event of a disagreement. There's a reason ships only have one captain.

ETA: Don't mean this as criticism of you. Just pointing out ways our BP programming still stays with us long after discovering RP.

[–]Lasagnaisforlovers 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I think the appointment you guys are looking for is first mate aka 2nd in command.

[–]TangoZulu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I used First Mate in a follow-up reply. Thanks.

[–]SovereignSoul76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mates, mates, let's not turn this into an arrrrgument.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

You're overthinking it. He's simply saying that you're the leader, but you're still partners. You're just arguing semantics about the word "captain"

[–]TangoZulu 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I disagree. Words are powerful; you only need to look as far as the way feminism attempts to control our social discourse to prove that.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Of course. But on a ship you have the final say as captain. If you can trust her to take the wheel when you sleep be careful.

[–]TangoZulu 8 points9 points  (1 child)

That's the point. Someone HAS to have final say. The captain can certainly trust his First Mate to take the wheel while he sleeps, but if there is no distinction in rank then every decision becomes a discussion and/or compromise, and that's not effective leadership. Especially if the boat is about to hit an iceberg.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes first mate is a better terminology here. Be the leader. Thanks

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes the Blue Pill conditioning is a bitch to shake. Thanks

[–]vwzwv 3 points4 points  (1 child)

"To each their own."

"It will be fine."

"There are exceptions"

Almost every life catastrophe starts with an utter like one of these.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha true I realized after I posted. This is why I post. The teacher can learn too. Thanks

[–]Roaring40sUK 7 points8 points  (0 children)

if you win, you get to keep living

I wouldnt even go this far.. I have been in a 10 year LTR with kids and it didnt feel like living to me..

[–]otivito 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm married and happy. This is the only point I do not agree with. I dated a lot and had my fun while finding what I was looking for. When I found her, I kept her. No regrets.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Added a tip on this. Thanks

[–]redpillrobby 4 points5 points  (34 children)

Gonna have to disagree. Fear of divorce rape is not a good reason not to get married. You can worship the dollar to that degree if you want, but I would get married again in a heartbeat. Has been absolutely worth it and if she leaves me and takes half my stuff so be it. I'm a capable man and can basically pull money out of my ass. The value that woman adds to my life is easily worth half my money.

The problem, as I see it, is that fear itself. It's part of what drives men down into beta-hood. They acquiesce to their wives because they suppose they have the power. People only have the power you let them have. And some contract that says she can take half my stuff if she leaves me doesn't give her any power at all if she detects that I won't give a fuck if she exercises that right. If she knows I'll just go fuck her sister and her friends (and worse, her enemies) and post it all over instagram (and she knows I would) she would never dare.

Not giving a fuck is your key in this life with women. Not avoiding marriage.

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 31 points32 points  (24 children)

Fear has nothing to do with it. You are succumbing to a classic feminist shaming tactic, and then trying to perpetuate it by accusing others of cowardice.

You do not appear smarter or more dominant by saying that you like being a host to parasites. You look like a tool.

There are few enough rational arguments for marriage, and sufficient arguments against it, to clinch the matter. It is a bad business and life decision.

[–]redpillrobby 1 point2 points  (23 children)

You are succumbing to a classic feminist shaming tactic

You mean I'm making use of one. Fair enough. But it works. It got you all riled up an emotional, didn't it? ;)

and then trying to perpetuate it by accusing others of cowardice.

I think you mean "and then tried to bolster your bad decision to get married by accusing others who don't do it of cowardice."

And yes, that is my argument. As you beautifully illustrate with this...

It is a bad business and life decision.

You could say the same about skiing. You're basically guaranteed to fall if you try skiing, you know. One could say skiing poses unnecessary risks for the silly little reward of sliding down a hill with the wind in your face. Ok, fine. Maybe you don't like skiing. But it's weird to come on here and try to shame others out of doing something that they like because it's a bad business decision (because it costs money) and that it's a bad life decision (because of the physical risks), when the truth is...you're just scared of hitting a tree, OR...you simply don't enjoy skiing.

But if skiing appeals to you, there are things you can do to maximize your fun, and minimize your risk. The same is true of marriage.

[–]kelvin_condensate 18 points19 points  (5 children)

I've never lost half my income by skiiing, and I've been doing it since I was five.

I hate terrible analogies (really any analogy in general).

[–]redpillrobby -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

I've never been seriously injured or lost half my income by skiiing, and I've been doing it since I was five.

Weird, it's almost like experience in a particular area gives you the confidence and ability to navigate it without injury. What a novel concept?

And I know people who have died skiing. Fuck half their income brochacho. Dead.

And yet, you ski.

I would hate analogies too if they showed me my thinking was flawed.

Marriage is awesome. Now, when I say marriage, I think I might mean something different than you're thinking. When you think marriage, you probably think "sex with one woman for rest of my life." That is not how I chose to think of marriage.

You see, I think a big problem with marriage, is that men believe they have to give up being single to do it. In my experience, I was never super happy as a single guy. I always wanted to be in an LTR.

But when I was in an LTR, I always wanted to be single.

Then...I cheated. Holy shit like manna from heaven I had finally crossed into the promised land of milk and honey and for the first time in my life I felt...fulfilled.

I have learned that as men, we are sexually dualistic creatures. We crave the familiar and we crave the strange. That's why I advocate LTRs and marriage...but I advocate cheating as a crucial part of it. Only then can a man be truly happy with his sex life.

That may offend you even more-so, but you deserve to know what the terms I'm using in this discussion mean to me.

[–]1htbf 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I still don't see what advantage do you find on marriage that you don't find in an LTR?

[–]redpillrobby 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't know what to say, man. If the reasons I listed aren't compelling to you, but they are to me, then I guess we're at an impasse and need nothing more to say than "to each his own."

[–]1htbf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe you listed them in another post but the one I'm answering doesn't mention anything.

[–]kelvin_condensate 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I dislike all analogies. General relativity is like a rubber sheet is the one I hate most.

Your analogy is bad because it doesn't take into account the associated probabilities. Dying while skiing is extremely rare unless you go out of your way to ski gnarly slopes.

My criticism of your analogy does not I am criticizing your point (although I still somewhat disagree with your initial post).

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 12 points13 points  (11 children)

Still waiting for you to provide some examples of the advantages of marriage over a simple relationship.

Go ahead, we'll wait.

[–]redpillrobby 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Sure. It's one of depth and community. The closeness you feel to her family. The closeness she feels to yours. The respect it gives you from your peers. The confidence it inspires in employers. The attractiveness in creates for you with other girls. The stability it provides your children. And that's just off the top of my head since you don't really want to know.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Ill give you stability for the children but the rest can be provided by LTR

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Stability for kids is pretty important, though. We all want different things here, some of us have a life goal to be the best parent possible and that's probably easiest achieved with a good partner.

The simple reality is this: while not all marriages end in success many still do and there are people out there that parent the shit out of their kids together and build a great empire together.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you want or have kids (like I do), I have no easy answers. I am married with an eye on the clock and a plate always spinning.

Personally, I would have been vetting better. Id have made Guantanamo a paradise

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

whatchu mean "eye on the clock"

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stability is achieved by the parents being present and supportive. That can be accomplished without a marriage contract.

[–]redpillrobby 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Perhaps. But I don't think I would feel as close to my wife's family, or she to mine, as I do being married to her. Those are nice things. There are other nice things. Not necessarily things that would sway you, but they're nice. And to me, they're worth it. The threat of divorce and divorce rape just isn't enough to keep me from it.

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly its not even stability for the children, on paper and in the fairytale world it is, but atm the divorce rate is like 50% so the kids can just flip a coin and pray to god that it doesnt land on tails.

[–]Rafsimon 1 points1 points [recovered]

stability for children is all you need to get married bruh. if youre not tryna have kids thats fine, but if you are you should definitely consider it closely

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did I not say that exact same thing?

[–]vwzwv 4 points5 points  (3 children)

You mean I'm making use of one. Fair eno..

I think you mean "and then tried to bolster your ba..

Do you often go around and tell people what they are really saying?

[–]redpillrobby -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

When what they're saying doesn't make sense, and I still want to talk to them, it's the only choice I have.

I'm not going to argue with nonsense.

[–]vwzwv 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Another bad answer. Time to bounce.

[–]redpillrobby -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Well be sure to call and let me know when one of my answers pleases thee, sir!

lol, you kids.

[–]XanJamZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the analogy. Do what you want just don't be a bitch.

[–]TRPfilth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In Canada at least, if you've cohabited for like 2 years you are considered common law married. Do the same kind of laws apply here?

[–]jamesso33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Defense of marriage is the bluest of blue pills. Family court is the reason the red pill exists. People that say things like "worshipping the dollar" usually don't have any. I'm all for marriage if the rules of the game were different.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about having your kids taken from you for 2 weeks of the month? Maybe longer, if she decides to lie about you molesting them?

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but I would get married again in a heartbeat.

Then you need to change your name to bluepillrobby, because you havent learnt a thing.

[–]OrphanedVigilante -1 points0 points  (4 children)

I'm a capable man and can basically pull money out of my ass.

Exactly. If one can afford it and sees some sort of value in it, so be it, but the majority of us on here don't have money to pull out their ass and/or don't see the value in betting half their property on if a woman will love them for the rest of their life.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Or you can marry a woman with comparable financial resources and earning power. Then on divorce she gets half of your stuff, you get half of hers, and you're square.

[–]OrphanedVigilante 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now there's an idea, also a prenup, although states like NJ don't recognize those. Perhaps laws in each state are different and would still benefit the woman? I'm only familiar with NJ and NY law.

[–]redpillrobby 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the majority of us

Good thing you found the red pill then. Once you've got your shit figured out, my advice to get married (and to cheat) might become more appealing to you.

I wouldn't have a rookie start at middle linebacker week 1 either.

[–]OrphanedVigilante 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That may have been presumptuous of me for say the majority of us, but I'm sticking with my main point.

Anyway, what makes you think I don't have my shit together or that I was never married? I'm happily divorced (luckily it wasn't an ugly divorce, we managed to keep things civil and are on good terms) and already procreated, so after that I simply don't see a point or it being of any value to me, especially now that I have more to lose.

Also can't agree with cheating. I've accepted the reality that the red pill has shown me pretty easily, but cheating in any form of monogamous relationship is my one rule I won't break. Although I'm open to your point of view and curious as to why you think cheating is morally justifiable.

[–]Mescuzzi 21 points22 points  (8 children)

When I hold eye contact longer than necessary, one of my favorite things to do is hit em with a slight (but cocky) smirk and an eye wink.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Exactly. Got my first serious girlfriend with a wink. She said "I can't believe you pulled that off." You can pull anything off if you're confident. If you have nothing to hide you are confident. Work on yourself y'all.

[–]1htbf 5 points6 points  (4 children)

My eye contact game has been so weak lately. I don't know if it's just me but I feel like people are staring at me so intensely that it feels confrontational. It last for more than 10 seconds before they fucking break away.

[–]Rollo_Mayhem3 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Time it and be sure (one, one thousand). Likely you are inflating the time. It could very well be that they are not intimidated by you or random people. Keep trying. I normally break contact when they leave my frontal field of vision. Since most people are not staring at them, it could be unusually for them and see you as a threat and so seeing what your are doing etc..

[–]1htbf 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I've been more confident than ever these days. I say outlandish things just for the heck of it. Just today, I was signing up at a new gym, I joked at how many signatures were needed. She said it was almost like signing up for a car. I noticed her signature too on the papers she just handed me and said "more like marriage papers".

I would never have dared stuff like that. Last week, boss was briefing me for an important presentation and told me "if they offer you a job, say no". I came back with "unless they offer me more money than you do".

[–]IkWhatUDidLastSummer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good stuff. Almost like a line out of a movie. Keep pushing bromigo.

[–]mcr00sterdota 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a dude and some other dudes do this to me too. Sometimes it makes me want to fuck them if they have high SMV.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like to hit them with a beer bottle, but, to each his own!

[–]GOATmar 40 points41 points  (6 children)

When giving girl your Fuck:

pull hair

choke

tell her u want to rape her asshole

shove finger in her asshole, make her taste it

tell her you want to impregnate her with quintuplets

makeout all sloppy, and tell her to picture eating another woman's pussy with you as you do

constantly tell her you own her body and soul

grope the fuck out of her tits and ass whenever possible, especially in public

make her deep throat your dick by force, until tears come out

spit in her mouth, and have her spit in yours too

when cumming, let loose, dont hold back, roar if you feel like

command her to cum, and how often to do so

when choking, do so by the side of her neck lines. until she feels like she's about to pass out. then release vice grip, fuck like a jackhammer, and then choke again until near-pass out. repeat

fuck in front of mirrors, and look as violent as possible when doing so

sniff her entire body as you jerk your dick

prone bone > doggystyle, make her feel your entire weight behind every single thrust

bite her lips hard

suck her tits like youre trying to prevent breast cancer

rub clit as you drill her pussy

[–]XanJamZ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The real LPT is always in the comments

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Yes another good tip here. Fuck her better than anyone else has. Don't be afraid to take what you want. Seek submissive women. Help them submit.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

However you're a funny guy. Maybe you are over doing this style ?

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not at all, do this, she will beg for it.

[–]RoughTeddy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hand position while choking is important. You want to blood choke her, that's what gives the lightheaded feeling. Wind choked are just straight up dangerous and she won't even feel it as well, so less coming back for your dick.

[–]GOATmar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yep

hence why i advise choke her by the neck lines located on the side of the neck

[–]SuwinTzi 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That bit on fitness; diet matters more than working out for recomp. You cant out train a bad diet.

Read up on how your body utilizes fuel for aerobic and anaerobic activity, and adjust your diet accordingly for your goal.

[–]Enlightened_Chimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just do both. Non-negotiable.

[–]curiousgeorgey 5 points6 points  (4 children)

If women looks abruptly at the ground

Can you explain this one? I've been seeing this a lot in the recent years, I just figured that they find me intimidating.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Yes. If they find you intimidating thats good. All tension can be sexual tension. If they look off to the side or make bitch face its a no go. If they look at the ground or look at you once or twice or smile its on. Women give these invitations all the time. "Introduce yourself" she is thinking. Take the lead.

[–]xx-Rain_Maker-xx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What did you mean by "bending over"?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So i was chatting with a girl, first her dog runs up. Dragging her behind him on the leash. This girl was easily a 7 or 8. A bit young for my taste. But sexy. "Don't let the dog walk you." I say. She laughs, I laugh, She breaks eye contact, and turns around. BENDS OVER to pet the dog, showing me her ass and titties ON PURPOSE. And though it may have been subconscious, most things are. Women do this ALL THE TIME. Look for the signs of submission. It is your cue to start Kino, get a #, etc. Thanks

[–]redpillrobby 19 points20 points  (26 children)

Confidence is the #1 thing women are drawn to.

The only thing you wrote that I'm not sure I agree with. I would say that SOCIAL STATUS (SMV) is the #1 thing they look for. Confidence (in the form of body language/eye contact/verbal skills/etc), reputation, good looks, friends, talents, money, career, education, fame, etc. all contribute to your perceived SMV, but I'm not sure one of those can be labeled as #1. SMV is what women have a nose for, and all those things are simply parts of it.

It's true that confidence can make women assume you have high SMV, but they can quickly find out you're a loser despite that, that nobody likes you, and then poof--you're still gone.

[–]kelvin_condensate 8 points9 points  (2 children)

In one off situations, confidence and good looks are pretty much all you need. Even if you don't have friends while going out, if you can mold into every group you enter and dominate the conversation, you are guaranteed to pick up at least one girl.

[–]redpillrobby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if you can mold into every group you enter and dominate the conversation, you are guaranteed to pick up at least one girl.

See, but there was your key.

[–]electricspresident 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes but thus is a different skillset of itself and takes massive confidence experience and practice. Maybe not even worth it

[–]blurtard 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Social status gets you nowhere without confidence to back it up

[–]redpillrobby 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Again, I don't totally disagree. But it's kind of a chicken and the egg thing most of the time.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (20 children)

True. I forgot about SMV. Thanks. Confidence in social situations is key. Work on your social skills and social status. Agreed

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (19 children)

I'm a bit of a lone wolf. For me, your advice is solid.

[–]blockchan 3 points4 points  (18 children)

You forgot to change accounts, bro

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (17 children)

I meant to respond to the above post twice. I do not have a 2nd account. Thanks

[–]redpillrobby -1 points0 points  (16 children)

Not saying you're not telling the truth, but in blockchan's defense, your second comment does sound more applicable to your first comment than it does to mine. Can you explain what you meant?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (15 children)

Ok. So social status is key. Agreed. I am however a lone wolf. I stick to my group. I don't play nice. I am the leader of my band. Of my tribe. I am content with this. Now confidence, women tell younger women "Look for a guy who is confident, if he is confident go get em," Now what you are suggesting is social confidence, or social status, is inherently important as well. I wholeheartedly agree. Thanks

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also women see a woman get a man with social status, they say "You go girl!" they do not care. If he has money, looks, status, they hold a parade for her getting fucked by him. Therefore, we're on the same page.

[–]redpillrobby -1 points0 points  (13 children)

Ok, I'll accept that. However...

I am however a lone wolf. I stick to my group.

...those sound like different things to me.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I understand. I am a recovering Sigma. Lone wolf. Going against the grain. I read a post in which someone pointed out that by going against the grain you are actually disregarding alphas and therefore you have no idea how to even be alpha. Become beta to the slightest degree is the solution surprisingly, in only this case, follow the men who are leaders around you. If you believe in their leadership. Learn to do this, and you may too become alpha one day.

"sigma male: you are a manipulative mastermind. you are a spider waiting to lay your trap. you possess a cunning, intuitive mind and can sway people to your will. you don't have the casual swagger of the alpha or the omega but you do have a clever presence about you and people tend to be both wary and respect you for that. you can often be even more powerful than the alpha or the omega male in social situations due to your ability to persuade and manipulate them. you are neither a follower or a leader but rather a wild card"

[–]redpillrobby 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Where is this definition coming from? If we get into too many personality profiles rather than seeking to adopt high status behaviors and rid ourselves of low status ones, I'm afraid we've crept over into pop psychology and won't make much progress.

I would focus on the behaviors my friend. Don't feel limited by some personality profile that kinda sounds like you.

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 14 points15 points  (53 children)

You sure swallowed someone else's ideology!

Lie and say you make more money than your woman? Yeah, you deserve whatever you get.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 3 points4 points  (51 children)

Lol. Yes I noticed that point was a bit off and out of place. White lies are fun, at first when meeting a women it's ok to bluff. In time, when building a meaningful relationship, these white lies fade, and honesty is key. Thanks

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 8 points9 points  (50 children)

You have missed some big picture wisdom too. TRP is a sexual strategy. Regardless of whether it is effective as a sexual strategy: as a LIFE strategy, especially for an older adult, it is woefully ineffective.

People need connection, and mutual trust and respect, when we are older. Life as an aging bachelor is VERY different than as a young guy, and if you proceed to live this young man's strategy for your whole life despite your changing human needs, you are in for a bad surprise.

That's why your "live for today" strategy as an alternative to worry about the future, is misguided. What you should have said is "be present today but consider and plan for the future without anxiety."

Same for never getting married. What you should have said is to never get married too young and never get married on someone else's terms.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (37 children)

I will adjust the post thanks

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (36 children)

Kudos for not doing the usual closed minded "REEEEE!!!" of most on here.

Also, watch some Jordan Peterson videos on having a successful life. He accurately sums up people's needs as we age, and explains why women riding the cock carousel AND men living TRP their whole lives is a strategy for misery later.

[–]Blackbull_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

men living TRP their whole lives is a strategy for misery later.

Dumb ass. Fuck you and fuck Jordan Peterson. Both you bitches can have your aging 40+ year old saggy tits bitch. Give me the 18 year olds anyday.

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 1 point2 points  (30 children)

And there we have the "REEEEE!!!" I mentioned, LOL

[–]Blackbull_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

My point still stands. I don't have to be chained to a saggy cow. You can have that shit.

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (28 children)

Your point? You didn't say "When I'm an old man, I am quite certain that I will _____."

You got all emotional and reactive and said "Fuck you". That's not a point. LOL

[–]Blackbull_ 1 points1 points [recovered]

Ok.

When I'm a old man, I am quite certain I will still be fucking women than you can only dream of because you will still be deathly afraid of her divorce raping your ass because you foolishly believed in Disney bullshit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Which of Peterson's points do you disagree with?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. I will check it out. Thank you

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (11 children)

What you should have said is "be present today but consider and plan for the future without anxiety."

This I agree with, thats how I live my life and I am in my 40's.

What you should have said is to never get married too young and never get married on someone else's terms.

This I strongly disagree with. Marriage is never on your terms, as a man, because society wont let it be that way. Its too far gone.

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Society won't let it? Please expand

[–]Roaring40sUK 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Seriously? You need me to expand on this? OK..

  • Gynocentrism, always puts womens needs first
  • Hypergamy - the woman is very rarely happy for long, and detonating a marriage makes her a hero
  • Women are taught not to submit to a man and most want to lead the relationship (until they actually do)
  • Punitive divorce and custody laws (in favour of women)
  • Punitive Domestic Violence laws - the man is always the guilty party
  • Dismissal of Prenups in many countries

Hows that for a quick off the cuff?

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (8 children)

I never said I need you to explain anything. I asked you to expand on your statement. Look at you trying to twist my words and intentions! Tsk, tsk

That list is not inherent in marriage. Those are things that are present in some cases some of the time

And it's a pointless and flawed list because I said "on your terms." If you live a place where prenup can be dismissed then you wouldn't be getting married on your own terms there. Duh. Pretty simple.

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (3 children)

No the list is not inherent in marraige, as you say, but its the system and society that we (the west) live in that makes marriage such a bad choice, for men.

Using a qualifier like "on your terms" is like using NAWALT, in that its basically a redundant argument, becuase the conditions would be so rare.

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How rare? Please give proof.

[–]Roaring40sUK 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I dont need to give proof. If you want proof, you are on the wrong sub.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I never said I need you to explain anything. I asked you to expand on your statement. Look at you trying to twist my words and intentions! Tsk, tsk

My read was that he interpreted your text correctly

[–]YoubigdumbSOB 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, putting words into someone's mouth is not interpretation. We are responsible for what we say. We are not responsible for some other thing you think we meant, LOL.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, but, you ARE responsible to adhere to the 'rules' laid down by language and common usage. That is how communication develops. If you say "I have a cat" and mean that you have a dog, that is YOUR fault, and, yes, YOU are responsible for some other thing that we think that you meant.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adjusted the tip with some elaboration. Thanks

[–]TRPfilth 4 points5 points  (6 children)

"Dont kiss unless you are ready to fuck" what is this about? Should you not make out with a girl at the bar or a party unless you're going to fuck her within a short time frame, or even that night?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

These methods are not ultimatums. They are simply tools and tips. If you wait to kiss, you ensure that you're getting laid. Thanks.

[–]TRPfilth 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Yeah I get that but is the reasoning because kissing diffuses the sexual tension a bit if its not followed by escalation? So its better to wait until you are ready to take it further?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Idk. It's just a theory I guess. Something I read here. Everything in this post is just stuff I read here. All open to interpretation. Whatever works for you.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

But to answer your question yes, that is what the post was saying sort of. Idk if I agree, but in my experience it has some merit.

[–]TRPfilth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I dont know if I agree either but its an interesting idea to play with

[–]Disciple_of_Libertas 24 points25 points  (9 children)

Don't have kids

Jesus Christ man. Why can't people have kids if they want to?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 17 points18 points  (6 children)

I want kids. One day. I am young and financially unstable as of now. Solid advice in the sense that we over due the desire for children. Make sure you're ready.

[–]Disciple_of_Libertas 10 points11 points  (5 children)

That is not how it's worded. You say it authoritatively: "Do not have kids." Overdue the desire? Is the desire to have my genes pass on overdoing it?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I understand. My post is not meant to be fact or an ultimatum. Just helpful tips to staying sharp and free.

[–]Disciple_of_Libertas -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Maybe you ought to make that more clear. Right at the top you say : "This is REVIEW. Be sure not to miss any of this." How do you think that will be interpreted?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Of course. I have changed the wording. Thanks

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My concern lies in child support and custody. If she takes the kids, which can happen, you're left to foot the bill sometimes without even being able to see them. I have two nieces who are great kids. I am however a musician myself and unable to support a family currently.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ill add a question mark for you. Thanks

[–]Psychocist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Concise! I like it. Covers a lot of points and you'd live a happy life if you unquestionably followed it. Of course, it's also important to understand why some of this advice is passed around. Most of your points cover that, but a few don't (marriage/kids, posture, body language, etc).

I know it's not the point of this post, but would be cool to extend it a little in that case. Great post nonetheless!

[–]briskestbrisket 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Can I just say that I found this subreddit maybe three days ago and everything just makes so much more sense now. I feel like I just started reading the Bible. Fuck yeah the red pill

[–]JackGetsIt 2 points3 points  (2 children)

[–]pFlap 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is this available as a physical book?

[–]JackGetsIt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha welcome bud. Glad I could help you catch up.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 43 points44 points  (12 children)

The whole "don't get married and have kids" is a jew plot to lower the white birth rate.

[–]d0lphinsex 25 points26 points  (1 child)

The most red pill truths are in the comments.

[–]1htbf 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I hope you are both sarcastic.

[–]kelvin_condensate 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Red pill advice is good for the individual, but by not having kids, we seriously are fucking over our European birth rates.

At the rate Germany is going, it could be Muslim majority within 50 years thanks to how many economic migrants they have imported.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Actually ethnic German men, of prime reproductive age, will be a minority as early 2020 if current trends continue https://youtu.be/dF9V8POmuxg

[–]kelvin_condensate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No surprise there, but every other ethnic group is literally working against them (reproductively).

I was specifically referring one current minority becoming a majority which is a different point (but still related).

Still, I appreciate your source as it is another piece of knowledge I enjoyed learning.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah definitely. Globalists worked to usurp the German people, this is all by design. After Europe falls they will come for America, this is no joke. You already see it now with them making it easy for illegals to come across the border and all these fake protests against deporting them and punishing sanctuary cities and of course building a wall. Like who in their right mind is actually against enforcing the border/punishing criminals except for globalists and misguided liberals? There is also a big push by the left for the US to take in more refugees from the Middle East, the end goal of course being that of Germany. Unlike Germany, however, Americans still have the right to bear arms and say whatever we want (to an extent), so I have more faith in the future of our nation than any other really.

[–]DickZinnendorf -1 points0 points  (3 children)

You nailed it. Jews are pure evil. It is in their blood. I don't understand how everyone hasn't figured this out yet. Jews did 9/11 and killed Kennedy. King Edward I had it right when he expelled them from England.

[–]thetrpthrowaway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Damn, I've thought that TRP would attract smart people, not some lunatic racist psychos

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I definitley think the Saudi hijackers on 9/11 were Mossad assets but I don't know about JFK although he was going after the Federal Reserve before he died...

[–]JackGetsIt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your Post script note is very very good advice. If you dig hard enough everyone has something interesting about them and there's an art to good conversation that takes years of practice.

[–]Redsmoke18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like this post, Im pretty sure it goes way deeper, but it is a real good overview, and pretty much sums up the basics, great post.

[–]RosstheMoss81 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Don't forget tact. Mimicking a beta while being an alpha will give the beta mimicking an alpha quite a shock at some point.

[–]bently25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this a useful strategy in certain situations? I've never heard of beta mimicry used as a tool.

[–]enkae7317 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great post. Lots of material condensed into an easily readable format with TONS of solid advice.

IDK why you're getting a lot of shit on this sub for the children + marriage portion. In the end, we're against it but everyone is so vehemently disgusted by it if you even utter the damn word they'll bring a wrath upon you no one has ever seen.

[–]Project_Thor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good thing Op is here to post common sense.

I was starting to get worried about the autistic simp populace.

[–]everyone_wins 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would like to add that the Sedona method is an incredible tool for letting go of approval seeking tendencies and subconscious programs that sabotage your success. Try it, you won't regret it.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool. I will check it out. Thanks

[–]briskestbrisket 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Noticed you touched on posture in your post, OP. Have had several women I'd been in public with ask me to not walk into a building "like I own the place" when I'm with them. Are they trying to say I look like a douche, or does my posture and stride actually put off too much masculinity, and they fear other women will be attracted to it? What's the deal. I'm my mind if you're walking without holding your chin and chest up high, you may as well crawl on your hands and knees.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's one of two possibilities: you're either strutting in like a peacock and you look ridiculous, or the women smell the beta in you and are shit testing until they strike oil.

[–]briskestbrisket 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I highly doubt I look like a peacock. Ridiculous? No. But for certain I get looks from everyone when I walk in a place and girls notice it. I stand out when I walk into a restaurant. For example, I'm only 21 but I'm 6'0 tall, 200lbs with disproportionally broad shoulders and a narrow waist; gym rat for life. I look good lol. They're shit testing.

[–]Patriarchysaurus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok, but if you feel so certain about that then why bother asking what these women really meant on TRP?

Edit: 21, 6 feet tall, & jacked at 200lbs./possibly still on a bicycle --shit tests no doubt.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you walked into my house like you owned it I'd be inclined to believe you. Confidence generates followers. As your follower, your women will test your confidence. Stay strong.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Remember, women love douche bags and assholes. Because they are confident. You are correct. She just wants to make sure you got the confidence to back that up.

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Maybe you're adding something to your walk over and above the requisite swag.

[–]briskestbrisket 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Jeez, I guess I really should stop carrying my pimp cane in public...

[–]juliusstreicher 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No, never, not that; maybe you should use it to punish dudes who wear skinny jeans! That could be what she meant. "...Like you own the place...but not punishing the malefactors!"

[–]briskestbrisket 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So you're telling me I should let my inner bulldog loose, barking out my truck window and biting anyone who makes prolonged eye contact with me in public? All the while strutting around like we're in my house with my chest puffed up.. bitches love assholes right?

[–]Blackcurls 1 points1 points [recovered]

I found this comment really interesting. How exactly do you walk, man? Could you describe it? I would love to emulate your style. Also, do girls really say that about you? Even the ones that barely know you? What type of tone do they use? To be honest, I would love to be told that.

[–]briskestbrisket 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Over this past summer, my girl (now ex) worked at a coffee shop I would visit on my way to work. She was super shy by nature. One time she asked to go to the gym with me and I spent 25 minutes in the car with her just getting her in the right headspace to simply walk into a gym for the first time. I guess she projected that shyness and social anxiety onto me as well because she would say things when we were hanging out at home like "why can't you put your hands in your pockets or something when you come in to my work." Or "You look like you're coming in there to punch someone in the face." I got a kick out of that one. Another girl just commented that I look "wide" when I walk. My ex was the only one who pursued the topic beyond a remark/shit test and made a big deal out of it.

I don't consciously even think about the fact I might be doing something extra when I walk. Its just how I walk, lol. My trainer ingrained good posture in me from a young lad when I first started lifting, and it stuck. I have long arms attached to broad shoulders and a narrow waist so my arms don't swing close to my body when I walk. I don't try to change that and wouldn't want it differently anyways.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't be a creep. Go for girls who are legal and willing. Society will shit all over you, stay vigilant.

Back in my BP days I was envy at guys I've met who were openly bragging how they were able to score with high school girls. Age of consent is less than 18 where I live, but still, now I see that it's creepy as fuck for guys in mid and late 20s to go after girls who can't even drive a car by themselves legally.

[–]Mister-guy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Great post. Accurate, efficient, and easy to follow. I'll be reading this several times a week.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Have a good day.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Long term relationships are the red pill on expert mode.

Thank you. This shit was so much easier when I was single. Married red pill is hard mode.

[–]-AsadBajwa94 1 points1 points [recovered]

How to stay lit: Make shit ton of money in your 40s and 50s, save enough for a comfy retirement, sip on some bacardi and light up some cigars in Cuba.... and if you ain't getting there ain't no way you staying lit big homie.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. This is part of my mission. Agreed.

[–]Xoramung 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isnt the 2nd rule of fight club, is you do not talk about fight club.

Good post dude. Saved.

[–]NDIndyfan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hg should add a reference to this in the patch notes

[–]30fretibanezguy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I never get much opportunity to tan my chest legs and booty given I live in the UK. Highly considering doing a few sessions in a tanning salon. You guys endorse it?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone mentioned that your skin will age poorly, and too much can cause skin cancer. Moderation man. Don't let anyone tell you anything you do for yourself is weak. You are strong man. You be the judge. Cheers.

[–]Luckylancer96 1 point2 points  (6 children)

be stoic, where do you work? Strip club

Is it possible to be stoic while teasing, using amusement mastery and being funny with this kind of jokes?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yep. In fact it's key at first. Confidence is rooted in not caring about all the stuff that doesn't really matter.

[–]Luckylancer96 1 point2 points  (3 children)

"stoic" reminds me a serious guy with less emotions. I dont get how "amusemen", "teasing" and "stoic" used together. Can you explain senpai?

[–]Raizo101 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Stoic does not mean boring. Even though the connotations for a stoic man are usually "cold, frigid and emotionless", they are incorrect.

Stoic means being outcome independent. Stoic means feeling emotions but not letting them take over you.

The shorter definition of Stoicism I can think of is simply "Oh well". Stoics focus on what they can control. If something out of their range happens... oh well.

I can recommend some books on the topic if you are interested.

[–]Luckylancer96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I ll read meditations and 2 other "starter" books. Thx for info

[–]The-Peter-Principle 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nice summary. Commenting for my future recall!

[–]NaturalSelect1on 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Great post man, this a very quick summary of the whole red pill philosophy in simple words. Great reminder for everyone!

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Have a good day.

[–]CrimsonShiv 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Quick tips like this are awesome, reminding us of the fundamentals without the waffle & psychobabble

[–]eccentricrealist 1 point2 points  (3 children)

This is pretty good as a reminder for people who've been here a while and haven't read the sidebar for years.

Otherwise, read the sidebar.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Thanks. I have not read the sidebar in a while. Does it include this stuff? Idk. However. Thanks. Have a good day.

[–]eccentricrealist 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The thing is most RP theory is derived from the posts in the sidebar. It's like doing the big 3 lifts and then accessorizing.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Side bar is the Old Testament. I'm trying to bring some New Testament to this Sub. Freedom of religion, however I am not religious. Just a metaphor. Thanks

[–]briskestbrisket 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm asking because I just discovered this subreddit a few days ago and I feel more woke than ever. I wonder, in what other ways are women shit testing me. I seek you guys' advice because you guys are more enlightened on this topic. I'm just starting to figure it out for myself and I can tell I'm going to enjoy applying TRP to my life daily. It doesn't hurt to ask, you know? Thanks for the words of wisdom.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

EVERYTHING IS A SHIT TEST. If you are confident, she will test you to make sure you got the mind set to back it up.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you have been taking care of your shit, you have NOTHING to hide. Therefore be confident. Shit test? More like an easy excuse to show how little I care, and how sure of myself I am. Stop giving a fuck. About EVERYTHING except a few, just a very small few things. Decide what you ACTUALLY care about. Pick 5 things. Throw the rest away.

[–]briskestbrisket 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Law school? That's impressive. I'm just starting this fall at a community college and hoping to bust ass and transfer to a bigger 4 year and expand my life/opportunity/social circle through those means. Thanks for your words of advice. Good luck on the law degree. I'll be sure to hit you up if I am in a pinch lol.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Your mission. Go get em bud.

[–]MarquisdeSuede 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is like the Desiderata of the Red Pill

[–]1ToSeeAndToHear 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Excellent summary of often repeated points. Only thing I disagree with is where you say to tan - that may help short term, but the sun damage will make you look old much faster.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have re-worded my advice to specify. Was meant for guys who never go outside. Thanks

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

" Do not have kids "

What a fucking retard.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Haha. Yes i realize. I am 24 now. I believe this to be good advice in the sense that we over due the desire for kids and marriage. So going in the opposite direction with advice at first is ok. For me I am not financially stable enough. Do not have kids....Until you're sure you're ready.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

If this is what you actually meant, then much love, the post is good.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

All good. I changed the wording to clarify. Thanks

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHA yeah that bit was retarded in retrospect. Thanks again.

[–]Hltchens 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Staying lit? How about we not use outdated euphemisms for starters. Lit. Smfh. You sound like a trilby ass wearin video game jockey. This ain't early 2016 anymore.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn dude you're right. Im so 2016. ;)

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I threw my tv in the trash a while back. No distractions from my mission. I appreciate your concern. I'm getting a bit older now. These things kids say. "Lit" "Fam" etc. They're funny to me. Don't hate. Have a good day.

[–]Hltchens -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ok. Stop replying to me. Weirdo.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

HAHA i would never wear a trilby. Had to look up what that is. Peace

[–]InfernalSpirit 1 point2 points  (24 children)

Still an over bearing contempt for women i see. You almost had it kid.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Lol i love women. I understand your concern. Thanks

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (21 children)

However, of all the comments here yours cuts the deepest. I'll add a tip about it. Thanks

[–]InfernalSpirit -1 points0 points  (20 children)

Its sarcastic but if it cut "deep" that speaks more about you than me. I'm not generalizing all women because of past experiences with the opposite sex.

I don't know what the "Ill add a tip about" means

I think if people on this site had access to therapy. Were more open to actual studies on women psychology and statistics on sexual behavior there would be a drastic dip in the sexist remarks.

Not saying you said this but i see people saying Women don't like porn (Not true) All women are fucking your friend behind your back (Not true) Women aren't as smart as men (Not true) This woman won't have sex with me even though i "deserve it"

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 2 points3 points  (18 children)

I agree. Misogyny is not the goal.

[–]InfernalSpirit -2 points-1 points  (17 children)

What do you personally believe is the overall goal here of this sub ? Setting aside the clear resentment of the opposite sex. Its clear anger plays a major role. After people "Wake up" what is the objective then ? Just curious.

Especially for the fringes of this thread who don't generalize women. What do they get out of this sub ? How would they like this sub to be viewed contextually if they had a say ?

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Have healthy relationships. Get laid. Be happy. Be in control of your life and yourself.

[–]InfernalSpirit 5 points6 points  (3 children)

It would be nice to see more of that around here.

I wish there was a purple pill or something.I believe reality is somewhere in between.

I seen people who put women on a pedal stool and try to act as if women are fragile and see them as innocent creatures as a whole which in itself is also a form of sexism by passively aggressive expecting a certain behavior.And some have tried to rationally explain why women were inferior some through the social conditioning and saying it isn't their fault in the end basically being passive aggressive but on the opposite end.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No purple pill. Watch the matrix. It's red or blue. I see what you're saying. All this talk of black pill and purple pill i'm not so sure of.

[–]InfernalSpirit 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"Blue" is white knight chivalry that denies the equal footing of women based on their innate need to put them on a pedal stool.

"Red" pill believes women are inferior minded creatures who walk around like golem looking for sex.

Neither is one is right. They both live in absolutes that generalize the opposite sex based on their personal ecounters

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhh i see yes. Well this red pill you speak of is the red pill right. Or something. Even conservatives have to deal with the white supremacist conservatives. Not all muslims are radical. In fact most arent, etc.

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Sexual Strategy....read the sidebar. There is no obligation to answer any of your honey pot questions. The removal of anger is a possibility here, some put in the work for it, some fail. If you only want to cherry pick the failures to moan about, then fuck off and have nice day!

[–]InfernalSpirit 1 point2 points  (9 children)

I can see you clearly didn't remove your anger ......

Honey pot ?

I was having a level minded discussion with someone asking their opinion on the people who DON'T give into anger and sexism that further stigmatizes the sub.

"Especially for the fringes of this thread who don't generalize women. What do they get out of this sub ? How would they like this sub to be viewed contextually if they had a say ?"

I want to here from the real people of this sub.

If you bothered to read what i wrote you would know that. "

[–]p3n1x 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Don't point the "your still angry blame finger" when someone aggressively disagrees with "purple pill" Disneyland bullshit. Biological 'facts' and fundamental differences are not "generalizations" and "Misogyny". If your skin is not thick enough to handle life being unfair and not equal, stop lurking around here.

I read all your crap, if you had read mine with out talking back, you would shut up and read the sidebar first before looking for specific individuals to validate your purple ideology.

I want to here from the real people of this sub.

Sidebar.

[–]InfernalSpirit 1 point2 points  (7 children)

1.Still angry ...calm down if you want to have a real conversation.

2.What biological facts ? lol You mean the countless "woman fuck everything" I deserve sex and if i don't get its because she makes herself the center of the universe line ? The women don't watch porn line ? Women aren't as smart as men ? Women can't hold friendships ?

Not of that is remotely true. You're so stupid you can't even fathom how stupid and uneducated you are.

I never stated life wasn't unfair. I actually stated quite the opposite a few times.

"stop lurking around here."

You can't tell me dick.I was having a real conversation with someone else before you decided to barge in foaming at the mouth.

Its clear nothing productive will happen talking to you so reply if you want i won't reply back

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Infernal. Are you from India ? Is english your second language ? You've got a few grammar mistakes and you're using the wrong "here" its actually "hear." And its spelled "pedestal" just a heads up.

Idk why you're being attacked but I guess the idea of purple pill is mixing and matching red and blue. Not gonna end well with all that blue in there bud. Anyway, i like your ideas. Just don't feel inclined to believe you on a few points. Some women are smart sure. When we begin to look at majorities of women however, your ideas about porn etc etc begin to fade. Now they are true. But rare i believe. I also don't know where you're getting these sexist ideas and remarks from. But i can tell you everyone here is just some guy with an opinion. Even gay lube oil. Even me. Where just some guys. Not gods. Thanks.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anger phase. The Red Pill causes Grief. -> Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Then Acceptance. Peace

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your tip is the PRO TIP. Thanks again.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh of course. The live for today bit is a bit off I understand. Think about the future. Plan ahead. You see worrying about your future is as simple as drawing a few conclusions, changing your behavior, and then enjoying your new self. In my experience the self improvement aspect of the red pill is my sexual strategy. As far as the past, i hope you can come to terms with everything. And forgive yourself and forgive others. Life is good despite mistakes.

[–]Sasuke_F_Uchiha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Somebody create a Twitter bot, which tweets out all these points regularly on repeat.

[–]acertenay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do not get married. Unless it is on your terms (very rare). Do not get married too young.

I am in a real dilemma here. I just turned 29 years old and I feel really sad. It seems like the prime years of my life are going away and then I will be married where I lose all of my freedom. There is a lot of pressure on me from my mother, society and myself. Personally I would like to wait till atleast I am 35-37. But this is quite old if you compare it with society. Other people are getting married in their twenties. My mother is always asking be when I will get married. My younger brother even wants to get married. Lastly there is also a possiblity where I aggressively deny getting married and then be one of those people who missed the boat on marriage or just "settle".

I just wish I can go back to 22 again so I can do a lot of things differently, especially go to gym regulary.

[–]briskestbrisket 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I actually attribute all my gains to twice daily sessions of cross fit and a raw vegan diet :) just kidding. I am from the dark side, no shame in it. To give you an honest glimpse into my mindset, possibly contrary to many men in this sub, Im reasonably confident in my physical appearance, not my approach skills nor my conversational skills. So then what good does this juicy, chemically engineered bod do me if I can't throw it on top of any woman I desire? Hah. The irony. Any suggestions as far as threads lying around this sub to study to begin to remedy my shy boy symptoms? I'm all ears to you guys on TRP. Thanks.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha you totally got me with the cross fit thing. I am like you. However, i never wanted to be dark side. I wanted to be Han Solo. Ended up like Darth Vader, or Kylo Ren's pussy ass. Good luck. You got looks, congrats you're a 9. You're unstoppable. With great power comes great responsibility. Be merciful Mace Windu ass mfer.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also. TRY. That's it bud. Just try. Be nice to people. They will naturally follow you as their leader simply based on physical appearance. Treat your followers with genuine kindness and understanding. They will never betray you if you do not betray them. Peace

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also never ever trust ANYONE. You can't even trust yourself. They will back stab you in a heart beat. You don't have to beat them to the punch. Simply cast them out socially. Cast them out. Shame them. The back stabbing will stop if you do not affiliate with these people. You get to decide who your followers are. Be considerate.

[–]Full-Time_Lurker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You CAN throw it on ANY woman you desire. You are a man, she is a woman. That's enough. No matter WHAT. No matter if it's Taylor Swift. No matter WHAT. You're a man, shes a woman. Also be patient. Women need a man to be her rock. Be kind to your women. They will reward you simply because you're beautiful AND kind. Very rare thing here. You want to be a Mr. Juxtaposition. Two opposite things. For example. I am going to law school, and I'm a musician. Bam.