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Red Pill ExampleHow much Dan Bilzerian understands. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by nabosch

Came across a Larry King interview with Dan Bilzerian, everything you’d expect out of the guy. Pure RP gold. Link to the interview

 

“It’s like, if a hot girl goes to the bar and she gets hit on 10 times she can go home and sleep like a baby and not hookup with anybody. But if she goes to the bar and no body pays attention to her and nobody talks to her then she almost like has to hookup with somebody to feel validated a little bit.”

“I was at a club and had one girl that I flew down that I used to date but decided that we should just be friends because she wanted a relationship. I had another girl that I had been sleeping with for a couple years that was living with her boyfriend so she was kinda like my actual date but I couldn’t be seen with her so I had the other girl that I could take to events."  

Decided to just be friends when she wanted a relationship. Girls always trying to secure a high SMV man, but why settle when you’re on top? Sleeping with another girl that was living with a boyfriend. Beta bucks and Alpha fucks.

 

What’s something that people get wrong about you?

“I think a lot of people think that I’m just fucked up all the time, that I’m drinking all the time”

Do you drink a lot?

“No, no I really don’t. No I actually don’t drink to much at all. For me I always went out to get laid you know? So like a lot of guys when they go out they need to drink so that they’re more relaxed so they can pickup chicks, but I just got to a point where I just didn’t really have to work at all.”

There’s no need to waste money and calories on alcohol when you don’t need it. Sure it’s nice to have a drink at the bar but no need to get hammered thinking that’s going to help you walk out with anything above a 5.

 

What are you embarrassed to admit you watch or enjoy?

“I’m not really too embarrassed by much, I always just kinda put my cards on the table and accept me for who I am kinda deal.”

What TRP is at it’s core. Being a high value man confident in himself, not afraid to put his cards on the table.

 

Do you feel like you use women?

“I feel like a lot of times girls are using me. A lot of times girls use me to get back at their boyfriends or piss off an ex or, you know I get used all the time. It’s kind of crazy but I can’t really get to upset about that”

AWALT

 

How often do you let yourself be vulnerable?

“Definitely not that often”

 

Do you ever want to just settle down?

“Um sometimes, at the end of a long weekend maybe”

35 and top of his game why stop now?


[–]1GroundhogLiberator 439 points440 points  (234 children)

I've always been fascinated by the snowball effect of social status.

You inherit a fuckton of money from your father so you'll never need to worry about going broke or needing to work a day in your life. You then make a "career" playing cards (something people do for recreation) so you get yourself in the public eye. Then you start living flashy. Girl A sees the yacht, private plane, luxurious resort and decides she wants a piece. So she's in the photo with him. Girl B sees Girl A just got another 10,000 followers on instagram, so she wants in too. Before you know it you're taking photos with 50 models in the background.

But this made me laugh yesterday.

[–]themidnightfox 86 points87 points  (3 children)

You should listen to the podcast he did with Joe Rogan. Pretty eye opening and shows somewhat of a different side of him and gives color to his backstory.

[–]0x8d1355 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Since you mentioned the podcast but did not provide a link:
[Youtube] Joe Rogan Experience #857 - Dan Bilzerian.

[–]dCLIFFb 32 points33 points  (1 child)

This should be higher, he outlines his entire life story. There's way too much speculation in this thread. IMO he's earned his status, but listen to the podcast and decide for yourselves.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I listened to all or a good portion of that status and I was impressed. He's smarter than people think and knows how to market himself.

[–]prodigy2throw 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's really a case study on social status engineering. Amazing really

[–][deleted] 132 points133 points  (214 children)

Dan Bilzerian is awesome. Haters are gonna hate, but he's smarter than people think he is. He literally set his life up in a way so that he's doing a bunch of cool shit and gets laid constantly. He also has a badass beard.

Oh yeah, I'm am reading some of the backlash from that photo and it's hilarious. I mean do people realize that was just a photo shoot, to have a little fun?

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 216 points217 points  (208 children)

He literally set his life up in a way so that he's doing a bunch of cool shit and gets laid constantly.

If you had $100M+ you could piece this together just as easily.

[–]Hammerhead9 203 points204 points  (24 children)

exactly why this guy has no valuable lessons

[–]Galbert123 200 points201 points  (6 children)

Agreed. Entertaining, yes. Relatable, no. This guy has all the money and free time in the world. You could work your balls off your whole life and not have a a fraction of that kind of wealth.

[–]metalhead4 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Dan what do you want to be when you grow up?

Hugh Hefnar on steroids.

Okay....

[–]Alpacash -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I disagree, if you work your balls off you can definitely have that kind of money or more.

[–]GIGANTIC_NIGGER_DICK 57 points58 points  (4 children)

DBs dad was charged with insider trading. That's where the 100 M came from in the first place

[–]32643264 35 points36 points  (0 children)

He's laundering his father's money through high stakes poker games. However, I'm sure he has made a shit ton of money through his IG fame etc.

In terms of his lifestyle, I'm a big fan. Dude is top of the food chain.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 22 points23 points  (171 children)

If you had $100M+ you could manage this just as easily.

DB is ripped. He put a ton of time and effort into training. Money has nothing to do with that.

There are plenty of billionaires who are overweight and in ill health, who don't do fun stuff. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet come to mind. Those are two beta chumps that didn't use their wealth for fun at all. Warren Buffet actually brags about eating a mcdonalds egg mcmuffin for breakfast, costing him only $3.50 or so.

It's important for guys not to fall into the trap of "hand waving excuses." Well, if I had that money, I could do XYZ so easily! A better question is what are you doing with the assets you have right now? A guy could spend $100 on a used guitar and learn to play to be more social/cool. Or he could day dream about what he would do will the millions he will never have. You could say how easy it is to have personal trainers and your own gym when you have millions, while some guy with NOTHING in his bank account gets on the floor and does crunches to get ripped, costing him nothing.

People criticize DB. I don't get it. What does that get you? It's so pointless to be bitter or resentful of people who had a leg up on you. His success does not impact you or me negatively at all. Learn from his example in any way you can and use that knowledge to improve your own situation.

[–]BestSC86 166 points167 points  (32 children)

YOU do realize one of the major differences be between your trust fund baby and Gates and Buffet, right?

They BOTH FREAKING BUILT THEIR EMPIRES by working insane hours, investing, researching and doing what the TRP claims should be the mission of a real man.

This dude basically has done shit but use his families' money and bought a boat full of pussy with it.

I am not a huge Buffet or Gates fan myself but I am smart enough to know that at the end of the day...they will be remembered as titans of their eras and fields while his dude will die unremembered likely from either a drug overdose or a drinking episode or from a STD.

I have met a bunch of these trusters and they all are entitled pricks who girls love because of the name\money. They also are usually insufferable jacksasses to most people around them.

[–]Luckyluke23 14 points15 points  (1 child)

all dan has done is use social media to his advantage

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you explain? i've been hearing more and more about the power of social media and have been wanting to learn a few things.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 18 points19 points  (14 children)

You make a valid point about the self-built empire vs the inherited empire. Here is my rebuttal: Bilzerian won the birth lottery. You can't fault (or praise) a man for something totally out of his control.

That being said, do you approve of how DB has used his wealth and privilege? Would you use it the same way if you were in his shoes? There are many trust fund babies. I have heard a few stories myself from these types in New York City. Neurotic, self-loathing. Some of them are so mal-adjusted they launch themselves off their penthouses and splatter the pavement below. Inheritance is not destiny.

The point I'm driving at is that every man has his inheritance, something some other man will be envious of. Inheritance can be spent and it can be squandered. Most of the users here were born/live in the USA/Europe, some of the richest places on earth and in the richest time period in all of human history. Some of you are tall. Some of you have money or the means to earn it. And all of us live in a time when feminism has made pussy incredibly cheap and easy to come by. We all have an inheritance, and it does no good to look at DB with eyes of envy. Take what you can learn from and forget about the rest.

they will be remembered as titans of their eras and fields while his dude will die unremembered likely from either a drug overdose or a drinking episode or from a STD.

That's great for them, and they are probably quite happy with their lives. I wouldn't trade places with them. In terms of sexual success would you rather be Dan Bilzerian at his prime or Bill Gates in his prime? Marriage 2.0 is a legal-bureaucratic tool of the matriarchy. Whatever DB's faults are, he is having fun with his life; that is an admirable goal for every man.

[–]BestSC86 46 points47 points  (2 children)

You missed the point.

This dude is exactly like a thousands of these dudes in America......they inherited family money and spent their lives living the Newport News, Palm Springs, and Florida society circuit. Sure they slay pussy because of their money, family name and breeding, but only a thirsty sexless beta would believe that being a pussy slayer is the epitome of a life well lived. Look I know that when you are on the outside desperate to stick you dick in pussy, it becomes an obsession to idolize those for whom it comes easy and are sticking it in more than a few a year...but it isn't memorable or indicative of a life well lived.

Hell, dudes in West LA running drugs and living in squalor are fucking as much pussy as Dan in a year...that is till they get gunned down in a driveby.....but nobody is aching for those dude's life.

I was simply making the POINT...that you don't compare these soft trust funds babies with people like Gates and Buffet who spent freaking years building a freaking trillion dollar empire and reputation. Don't know about Gates but Buffet was a man's man back in his heyday....shouldn't think that he was always 70 as you see him today.

[–]analyticaltoafault 22 points23 points  (2 children)

You can certainly fault a man for becoming an adult and not taking his life's gift and becoming a man of character as well.

Marcus Aurelius is a perfect example.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 16 points17 points  (1 child)

You can certainly fault a man for becoming an adult and not taking his life's gift and becoming a man of character as well. Marcus Aurelius is a perfect example.

That requires too much judgment. There are too many competing systems of belief and values. What is a 'man of character' anyway? A man who owns himself and is enjoying his life? A man who builds an empire? A family man? Can a wandering bum with nothing to his name be looked up to for his wisdom and character?

The stoics, as far as I understand them, regard criticizing others to be, in general, a waste of your time, attention, and energy. Those things are better spent improving yourself and reflecting on one's own achievements and short comings, because you are the only one capable of knowing what you truly want, and whether you are on the right path to achieving it or not.

[–]DannyDemotta -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Some men just want to be crybaby bitches, my dude. It's all they know. I go to the gym and see them going through the motions with idiot exercises - probably 95% certain I'm on steroids because I look that much better than them (I don't take any hormones/prohormones, just typical supps). They see me drive by them in a vehicle that costs 3x what theirs did, probably thinking it's where "all my money" goes (it doesn't, there's plenty more). They see me flossing and probably think I was born into this....Nope, food stamps, welfare, section 8 is my background. And the list goes on and on....

Haters don't just hate - they play The Hater Game 24-7, always looking for ways to tear others down and to excuse their own failures.

[–]ConflictedLogicalMan points points [recovered]

wait what...? You would rather have pussy than be a legend and make your mark in history?

Why?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Not about having pussy. Go look at DB's social media shit. He is having fun. He lives a worthwhile, exciting life. Show me pictures of Gates/Buffett doing fun, exciting things.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'd imagine that making Dan's entire net worth every week would get you a pretty big high. And they obviously enjoy what they're doing, because you don't become the best ever at something if you don't enjoy it. Gates probably got tired of pussy after seeing how much was thrown at him when he was a literal billionaire bachelor in his 20s. Seriously. You seem to think that Dan would suddenly stop getting girls if he were to stop lifting.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

You're wayyy too obsessed with girls dude. You value them and hooking up with them way too much

[–]DannyDemotta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You don't, and can't, know Jack shit just by reading that one post. What kind of bullshit are you on? Are you even one of us? Do you read the sidebar?

This is a forum about sexual strategy - not about changing the world and being some nu-male prototype.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love how whever someone gets called out the only reply you get is "read the sidebar"

[–]ProNotPro points points [recovered]

They BOTH FREAKING BUILT THEIR EMPIRES by working insane hours, investing, researching and doing what the TRP claims should be the mission of a real man.

The red pill doesn't tell you how to live your life. NOWHERE!

It explains how the sexual market works so you can navigate throuth it based on what you like.

Even if Bilzerian was given 100% of his money, what difference does it make? That's like hating on handsome dudes because they can pull with less game than you.

[–]BestSC86 11 points12 points  (1 child)

So the lesson you take from the red pill is be born with loads of money......

Oh well, perhaps you should start a adjunct reddit with a new sidebar..it would be much simpler to read.

  1. Be born with boatloads of money.
  2. Lift
  3. Spend loads of money buying the attention of chicks with yachts, parties and trips.
  4. Post on social media.
  5. Slay pussy.
  6. Die.

Of course, most followers will give up at #1 because without #1 the rest of the Dan's philosophy is unworkable.

Nobody is hating on freaking Dan....the post waas about the STUPIDITY of castigating Gates\Buffet as compared to this freaking loser. But it certainly highlights the number of people who will never make it because they would be unwilling to put in the hard work to get resources to live a similar life to this Dan dude unless they were lucky to be born with it.

Oh no, working hours and building a business or company is so beta, but I want loads of money so how do I alpha my way to money......

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

What people are pointing out is that it doesnt matter how he behaves or acts. No matter what philosophy he subscribes too hes gonna get tons of pussy becsuse of his money. Look up to someone who gets that much poon because of what he does not what he was given

[–]ProNotPro points points [recovered]

What people here are doing is being stupid.

You don't have to be inspired be someone, you don't have to like his character or look up to him ect, ect, to say if he is alpha or beta.

He is all the negative shit people say he is, his behavior is still alpha. People haven't read the fucking sidebar, that's why they get triggered when you tell them that Bilzerian is alpha and Musk, Gates, Buffet ect are beta.

https://therationalmale.com/2011/10/20/alpha/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TIL being obsessed with girls 24/7 and nothing else because youre insecure you didnt get any when you were younger makes you alpha as fuck

Look you want evidence that his behavior works? Pick broke ass people who act like him and get tons of ass. He could literally be the most needy little bitch and still get that much puss because of his money only.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What people are pointing out is that it doesnt matter how he behaves or acts. No matter what philosophy he subscribes too hes gonna get tons of pussy becsuse of his money.

It doesn't work like that, but you do you

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Uh are you saying money won't get you women?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you saying that money by itself will?

What people are pointing out is that it doesnt matter how he behaves or acts.

This is the part you're mistaken on. There are plenty of guys with money getting taken for a ride by women who don't want to fuck them. It's called beta bucks for a reason.

[–]Tongue37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly, he pays women to hang out with them..what is so cool about that? If I had his money I'd be sort of ashamed to have to pay women big money to come on my boat lol..since he has social status, good looks and money, shouldn't these be enough to get all the women he wants without paying them?!?this makes me think his natural game is not so good

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read something about what you are saying about people like Buffet and Gates. When they earn so much that money is taken out of the equation of happiness, they become something else. With not a specified goal in sight they just work and becoming richer and richer just to see the number on bank account growing. When Buffet brags about buying 3.50 dollar egg muffin its not because he is cheapskate, it is because he has disconnected himself from the percieved truth that money is a way to happiness, for him being the best/richest etc is the happiness. They will either die as the world happiest men or as the most misrable as they realise that it was not worth it.

[–]yomo86 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Bill and Warren are the other end of the spectrum. Nothing remotely alpha about them. They do what they do because nothing else comes to mind. Gates never traveled as Gates the Bill and not Microsoft Bill. Buffet has his Egg McMuffin while he could enjoy his life once every while. Providers to the core.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 118 points119 points  (38 children)

DB is ripped. He put a ton of time and effort into training. Money has nothing to do with that.

How can you say that? His money gives him 40-60 hours per week that the rest of us have to spend working. He has access to elite trainers and can eat professionally-prepared high quality meals. If he juices he can do it under a top-notch doctor's supervision. He can get as much sleep as he needs. He has nothing to stress over.

He has no excuse not to be in peak condition.

Every week I'm in the gym about 15 hours across 6 days. I'd be there 5 hours per day if I didn't have to worry about money.

[–]Stormtech5 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Speaking of sleep I'm at work now on about 2.5 hours sleep and many nights lately of 4 hours sleep. That's what you get with a wife and kid though

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Every week I'm in the gym about 15 hours across 6 days. I'd be there 5 hours per day if I didn't have to worry about money.

No, you wouldn't. You would be a lazy fuck because you wouldn't need to work or train a fay in your life. You would have bitches to fuck until your dying breath and money to spend, no point in working on building muscles to improve you SMV and social status. You would have that by default.

PS- I'm not talking about you personally, but generalize how almost all people would act in that situation.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'd let myself hit 12% body fat at the worst

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Most people are fat and lazy. Those that work out do it almost entirely to be more attractive to find a mate. Those that do it mainly for themselves are a tiny fraction.

Give money and power to the first 2 categories and they will become fatter and lazier in an instant, since they will have no incentive to better themselves.

[–]eylizo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God same. Can't imagine being even slightly chubby

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dan is around 15% body fat and looks great.

[–]FractalFactorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With unlimited access to professionally cooked food every single day of my life not to mention some expensive as hell wine and scotch I'd balloon up like a mother fucker.

I mean really, who would want to spend any more time at the gym than what's needed for basic maintenance if money wasn't an issue? 15 hours already sounds pretty excessive imo.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (23 children)

You don't have to spend much time in the gym to get ripped. I lift weights three times a week and keep my workouts under 40 minutes. I am about 177 lbs and I recently was able to bench 345 lbs. No excuses.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Ahahahahaaha ok dude Yea I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on that. 345 even at 181 puts you in the highest bracket in strength standards (elite). And if you were aware people at the elite level spend hours every day at the gym while on the juice too

But you did it under 40 minutes because no excuses! Who knew willpower was all you needed

Damn what's up with insecure dudes making lifts up online so much...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I actually don't make my lifts up buddy. The key is focusing on the 1-5 rep range for strength. Yes, I did put up 345 lbs. It comes down to how you push yourself and I make my workouts intense, so I don't need to spend 1-2 hours lollygagging in the gym.

Each week, I push myself to lift just a little bit more or squeeze out more reps. Also, diet is crucial and making sure you are treating your body right. I take creatine, which probably helps as well. It didn't happen overnight of course, but I stayed focus on making progress

A number of years ago, I was able to deadlift and squat over 430 lbs. My bench press is elite. There are plenty of videos out there of people being able to bench way more than there bodyweight. I also don't take steroids. You don't have to take steroids to be really strong. That's a myth. Stop hating.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Look go bullshit someone else ive been doing this shit for way too long and know too much for your "just high intensity bro and creatine !!1!1!!" bullshit to work on me. Face the music when your bullshit gets called out, trust me it'll happen more often. Just ask yourself why do I have to make shit up on the internet, once you find the answer solve that issue in your head.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Honestly, I don't have to qualify myself. I am telling the truth. It is better to have a workout in 35-40 minutes, allow your body to recover and hit the gym harder each time, then to work out for 1-2 hours and not see progress.

It's pretty simple, but I love how people like you complicate things. In action, it's easier said than done, but once you figure out your goals and focus each time on increasing reps and weight, it's definitely possible. Weightlifting workouts more than 1 hour are actually worse, than 35 minute workouts, unless you are on steroids. There comes a time when it's counterproductive.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (13 children)

If you're bulky naturally though and you're just cutting and getting definition it doesn't take as much time or effort as a skinny fucker like me gaining muscle mass.

Different workouts for different genetically-predisposed and physically-endowed individuals isn't it

[–]RedDeadCred 3 points4 points  (12 children)

True but guy said he's in the gym for 15 hours a week. If he's a natty he's dumb af and only hindering his progress.

[–]analyticaltoafault 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Really?

I see plenty of progress doing about the same hours per week following good rest/stretch times and total reps per muscle at specified % of 1RM depending on current goals.

2 hours a day of lifting and exercise even 5x a week (basic PPL with legs once even alternating leg muscles weekly) is more than enough for people to see good progress.

I just think your statement of, "hindering his progress," is erroneous as he's doing well above nothing and (based on what can be achieved in the time given) going through a good volume to support rest and growth. Hardly hindering. Sitting on the couch everyday eating cheetos would be a hindrance.

Otherwise you might as well just say anyone that is natty at all is just wasting their time, which is still quite a bad assessment.

[–]RedDeadCred 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess if you take long rests between your sets you might be okay but if you're doing 18+ sets a workout youre not doing yourself any favors.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children)

Probably taking too long to rest between sets, that will kill your gains unless you are absolutely on-point with diet, rest, workout frequency and the type of exercises you're doing.

[–]chirar 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Sounds interesting, do you have a source for that?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 4 points5 points  (3 children)

How can you say that? His money gives him 40-60 hours per week that the rest of us have to spend working.

I'm not arguing that you are factually/logically wrong. Of course you are correct. I'm arguing that this is a woe is me attitude and that this is not constructive for a man to have. I used to suffer from a woe is me attitude and it wasn't until I abandoned that perspective that I started really making progressive on myself.

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 63 points64 points  (2 children)

This isn't a woe is me or a sour grapes situation. I'd trade lives with him in a heartbeat.

I just think it's absurd that people are putting this guy on a pedestal. He's not some kind of self-made millionaire. He's a Kardashian. Famous for being famous.

[–]neetpepe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another reason why NEETs are winning the game.

You should quit your job. Until then: another day, another dollar.

[–]redpill-account points points [recovered]

Posts like this give RP a bad rep.

Bill gates did nothing with his wealth?!?

How about cure disease and save literal millions of lives .

[–]1GroundhogLiberator 127 points128 points  (9 children)

And Warren Buffett is 86 years old. How come he isn't out there banging sloots? What a beta.

[–]sketchyuser points points [recovered]

He actually got his wife to agree to let him bang someone else.

[–]RandomName13 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What's the back story on this? ??

[–]0010000100111111 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Making your life mission to fuck as many women as possible is pretty lame. Bill gates is doing some amazing things for humanity.

[–]ConflictedLogicalMan points points [recovered]

Exactly. Too many Betas around here making women and pussy their freaking life goal. How pathetic is that?

Would rather be a legend like bill gates any day. Banging chicks doesn't print my legacy in history the way being bill fucking gates does.

[–]DigitallyDisrupt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Would rather be a legend like bill gates any day.

How long do you plan to live? Enjoy life now. There will be a time when it's less enjoyable, then become Gates. Then you will have gained worldly knowledge and opened your eyes to the world, and the contribution you make will be stronger.

[–]1971240zgt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes im sure bill gates would still be doing all the amazing work hes been doing the last 30 years if he'd spent the first 30 years of his life chasing pussy and playing poker looking to be the alpha male. You are extremely correct.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly and when you get as rich as Bill fucking Gates, you can just throw money at escorts/prostitutes way hotter than club or bar chicks, if you wanted to.

[–]MakeMoneyNotWar points points [recovered]

Bill Gates was ruthless as fuck when he was building Microsoft.

[–]lancer000 13 points14 points  (2 children)

He spent his time jumping on chairs, playing DOOM (that takes balls to play) & also he banged loads of hippie chicks. Just look at him. He is always so happy.

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (3 children)

Yeah seriously. I like banging chicks like the next guy, but you can't tell me that Bill Gates did nothing with his wealth. Plus, he seems like a guy who has a different idea of fun than most guys here who don't even have .01% of his wealth.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Lmao that's still 8.5 million dollars. With that money in the bank at 3% interest you'd have 250k to go nuts on all the blow and hookers you could responsibly handle. I honestly believe there are 0 redditors on this sub with that kind of cash. But yeah fun is relative.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Exactly. 8.5 million dollars to your name, while making 250K is crazy money. Heck, as a single guy, I would feel like I'm a baller with an 80K salary, as long as I'm in a decently nice apartment.

Plus, Bill Gates and Warren Buffett never seemed like the party types.

[–]BRINGMEDATASS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And if they were they wouldn't let it be publicized.

[–]MEpicLevelCheater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You think The Red Pill has a bad reputation because we make fun of Bill Gates?

[–]MuteMouse 15 points16 points  (8 children)

He's admitted to using steroids and growth hormone

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 7 points8 points  (6 children)

He's admitted to using steroids and growth hormone

A valid criticism.

He took shortcuts. There is still a worthwhile lesson in that. Those shortcuts are available to almost any man, if he wants to take them. One of the most lauded users on here, GayLubeOil, has posted extensively on the topic.

The real point of my comment was to call out what I read as a 'woe is me' reaction about DB having a lot of money. Thanks for your comment.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Steroids aren't only used as a shortcut, once you get to a certain level you literally cannot progress without the use of gear. For some people that level is lower than others, it all depends on genetics and natural test levels.

Regardless, what's wrong with using a shortcut? What lesson is there on that?

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Regardless, what's wrong with using a shortcut? What lesson is there on that?

Oh, I didn't mean to imply there is one. Merely pointing at that shortcuts exist.

A fat guy can get his stomach stapled. A short guy can wear lifts to appear taller. Some guys use prostitutes/call girls to gain abundance mentality.

One man's shortcut is another man's "trick" or "strategy." As long as a guy isn't deluding himself I am amoral about such things.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah okay, that's fair enough.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is nothing wrong with using shortcuts. As long as your objective about it. At the base of deciding to do anything for a reward is the lessons you learn along the way. If something comes easy, the lessons that some argue are the point of the progress, get missed.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the most lauded users on here, GayLubeOil, has posted extensively on the topic.

/u/GayLubeOil uses steroids?

[–]showerthoughtsgenius 70 points71 points  (1 child)

Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are beta? Hahahahaha. Alright dude.

[–]tygar2 12 points13 points  (0 children)

If Gates and Buffet are the definition of beta is then count me in. Seems to some being alpha is what I would call being a shallow attention-whoring self centred prick. If you choose to not spin plates or look like Rambo then you are beta? Is your life is not primarily driven by how much pussy you can get then you are beta? Seems theres a lot of thirst around here....pathetic.

[–]douchetinc 13 points14 points  (5 children)

Bill Gates funded research that led to the discovery of a filtration system that can turn shit into potable water, with the intention of providing millions of suffering individuals in Africa clean drinking water. What a fucking beta, right? He probably did that for "female validation." So beta.

Clearly, a spoiled brat who spends ridiculous amounts of money to surround himself with vapid, std-riddled, gold-digging fame whores, with no self-respect, is living a more worthy life.

Dan Bilzerian's greatest contribution to humanity is to infect these bitches with aids to ensure that bad DNA never replicates, and no children are raised by these cum dumpsters.

Any moron with money can fuck a 10.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Bill Gates funded research that led to the discovery of a filtration system that can turn shit into potable water, with the intention of providing millions of suffering individuals in Africa clean drinking water. What a fucking beta, right? He probably did that for "female validation." So beta.

You need to up your reading comprehension my nigga. Gates and Buffet accomplished amazing things, but they never never swam in pussy or used their money for fun. This is factually accurate. It also happens to be the point of my comment, which you somehow missed.

Are you striving for this life or this? Because one is not like the other. All inheritance aside, whether one is a douche bag or not, WHICH LOOKS MORE FUN? Because one is not like the other.

Any moron with money can fuck a 10.

Be a moron with money.

[–]FriendlyJack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fun is a relative concept.

You sound like someone who needs to get laid more.

Also, you're not thinking big.

[–]Hammerhead9 1 point2 points  (2 children)

"Never used their money for fun" because you can objectively know what they do day in day out, i don't know how you're respected in this community

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (1 child)

"Never used their money for fun" because you can objectively know what they do day in day out,

I've been reading about Gates and Buffett for more than 10 years. It's easy to make money by following Buffett's comments on the market. If you think he had even a fraction of the fun DB has had, please show the evidence. Buffett's main hobby is online bridge, as in the card game. He is all about money and business, and might be slightly autistic, having graduated from college at 19. He is smart, but not someone to model your life after if you want to have a fun, memorable life. Like I said, he bragged about eating mcdonald's for breakfast because it's cheap.

i don't know how you're respected in this community

I do my homework and make cogent arguments. You can't even post a rebuttal that makes sense.

[–]redpill-account 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel u, but it's warrens discipline and consistency and commitment to the Long haul that red pill should seek to emulate

[–]FriendlyJack 6 points7 points  (2 children)

First of all, it sounds like you want to bang the guy. Second of all, you're probably in your teens or early twenties and missing the big picture. That's fine.

I have nothing against Bilzerian and I'm happy that he can have a cool life. Shit, I wish I had that kind of money. I would have the same kind of fun with it for a while. I don't resent him for having a great time, but let's all be real here.

Comparing Gates and Buffett to him is silly and ignorant. Even one percent of their successes completely eclipse what he has achieved, which really isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. There's a lot more to life than partying and fucking random bitches.

This is especially true when you compare him to Bill Gates. Never mind creating the system pretty much every computer on the planet runs on. The things he's done for humanity after leaving Microsoft have secured him a place in the history books forever.

Do your research before posting things that make you look like a dumb-ass. It's pretty much impossible to talk shit about Bill Gates, even if you're an Apple phaggot.

Yeah he's a quiet guy who's a little weird. Most super-geniuses are. When you have that kind of brain-power, you have a hard time relating to the average person, and vice versa.

His achievements make him pretty much a real-life version of super-man.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I have nothing against Bilzerian and I'm happy that he can have a cool life.

This was, really, my main point. It's annoying to log on to THE RED PILL and see butt hurt blue pill posts whining about how unfair it is that DB has $100 million from his parents and waa-waa his life is so easy. I hate to see a "poor me" attitude especially on this sub.

Comparing Gates and Buffett to him however, is silly and hilarious. Even one percent of their successes completely eclipse what he has achieved, which really isn't that much in the grand scheme of things. There's more to life than partying.

This is especially true when you compare him to Bill Gates. Never mind creating the system pretty much every computer on the planet runs on. The things he's done for humanity after leaving Microsoft have secured him a place in the history books forever.

Do your research before posting things that make you look like a dumb-ass. It's pretty much impossible to talk shit about Bill Gates, even if you're an Apple phaggot.

Are Gates and Buffett more accomplished/successful than DB? YES. Does DB lead a more fun/exciting life than both of those guys combined? YES.

I have done my research and I know that Gates/Buffett are slightly autistic nerdy blue pill betas. If you stripped away ALL the money from ALL three of these men, DB would still be a popular guy who can pull. Gates/Buffett not a chance even in their prime--they were always socially awkward losers who had to submit to the matriarchal institution of marriage to get pussy.

I can't criticize Bill Gates? There is plenty of room to criticize Bill Gates. He is essentially white knighting the entire continent of Africa. If you think it's bad to support a single mother with three kids by two baby-daddies, it's about a billion times worse to support an entire continent that has never been capable of feeding/watering, clothing, healing, or securing itself. Bill Gates will be responsible for the demographic catastrophe of 2100. Already we are seeing a never ending stream of migration into Europe. Today will look like a trickle compared to tomorrow's torrent. There will be global unrest thanks to Bill Gates. If you think Africa is a violent place (it is), wait til the whole world is populated by Africans with EBT cards. The future looks very African for planet earth thanks to Gates's "charity."

Ozymandias is the example of who NOT to be: a few thousand years from now all of your works will be dust and forgotten. Empire building is NOT self-actualization, it is an unhealthy obsession that takes away from enjoying your life. Sexual gratification is part of life's enjoyment, and this sub is definitely about sexual strategy. Of the three of those men I see DB enjoying life and gettin' some. The other two are Ozymandiases who will do long lasting damage through their hubris.

[–]FriendlyJack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Get off the Internet for a while. It'll do you good.

[–]Newreddawn 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Money has nothing to do with having the free time and capital to spend on weight training. Trp at its finest, folks.

How exactly does anyone learn to better themselves by studying a manchild with a silver spoon shoved down his throat?

Jesus, just looked at the rest of the comment chain. People aren't tearing down his success, they are saying that he's nothing special without his incredibly rare advantages. You're so concerned with defending your point of view that you're missing the bigger point; there is literally nothing to learn from this human being that we don't already know. The post was a garbage contribution.

I miss the real contributors that really made this place special. I don't respect the EC flair anymore, too many clowns have it now.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I find this sub really likes to glorify bullshit artists

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is where TRP loses me.

Ffs sake you're not some social fucking leach. If you are a billionaire, you'd rather be fat and doing great charity than be ripped and just banging models.

Jeez TRP, life isn't just about banging women. Warren Buffet isn't a "beta cuck" because he is fat and isn't fucking 10,000 women. He is building a legacy that will last generations. Things like "beta cuck" are applicable to the salaried employee. Not people worth more than the economies of entire countries.

Some of you folks need to pull your heads out of vaginas.

As for Dan, he doesn't owe anyone anything but I do judge the man for using his wealth for hedonistic idiocy than doing something actual good.

[–]cfc9 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Please don't compare Dan Bilzerian to Bill Gates

[–]Stormtech5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If your rich and ripped you will get the girls. If your just rich your still gonna get girls. If your broke and ripped as hell then it's a lot more difficult...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

"Money has nothing to do with that."

It definitely does.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (4 children)

"Money has nothing to do with that." It definitely does.

It's too bad this homeless guy can't be in shape because he has no money.

Reminds me of this homeless guy that picks up women every day despite being homeless.

Excuses are an indulgence.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

If Dan wasn't a millionaire he wouldn't have a good body.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

If Dan wasn't a millionaire he wouldn't have a good body.

Great attitude, bro. Keep winning.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Also there is no way that old guy is really homeless.

[–]FractalFactorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its not impossible. Depending on the country, benefits, what he receives, city etc.

A mentally ill dude that gets good money from the government but likes to live homeless could get that big feasibly.

[–]Pshkn11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol Gates and Buffet are beta chumps? They are titans who revolutionized their industries, ale literally saving millions of lives, and will be remembered for centuries. This fucktard is barely known now and certainly will disappear into obscurity as soon as he gets old/dies. Think what you will of DB's lifestyle, but he's nowhere near the level of Gates or Buffet.

[–]pateuvasiliu 2 points3 points  (16 children)

DB is ripped

If I didn't need to do anything in my entire life to get an education/money because I was already rich I'd look like Arnie. Being ripped doesn't mean much when you have all the time in the world and the money to support the best diets/trainers.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ernie looked like Arnie before he was rich or famous. No excuse for you.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (14 children)

Excuses. Grease that hamster wheel you pussy.

[–]pateuvasiliu 1 point2 points  (13 children)

Classic cuck talk. Show me someone that followed an engineering degree successfully and looked like a greek god and you might have a point.

[–]idontlikethisbutok -1 points0 points  (12 children)

One of my best friends did, you're the cuck.

[–]pateuvasiliu 1 point2 points  (11 children)

Bullshit. There's no way in hell you can get a proper nutrition living on your own as a student unless your parents are shoving money up your ass.

Bodybuilding takes time and money. An engineering student has neither most od the time.

[–]idontlikethisbutok 1 point2 points  (10 children)

2 hours/day for prepping food/working out is enough. Also, yeah he did get help by parents but was living in dorms, very frugal, no outings every weekend. He prioritized his nutrition over everything else, cooking healthy stuff (mostly rice+meat tho not fancy stuff).

I don't see why you're complaining, how the fuck do you survive without help?

[–]look_good 1 point2 points  (0 children)

haters gonna hate. some just can't be happy when others are living better and don't give a fuck

[–]lancer000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you Sensei. TIL that anybody can get ripped & take pics with bitches, which then they can skilfully use to earn money via IG or other social media.

[–]1swaglordobama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bitterness is the default on this sub. So many butthurt chumps here looking to rip into people who have achieved more than them.

[–]FractalFactorial 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me it has nothing to do with sourgrapes. Dan is hilarious and watching his lifestyle is definitely envy-porn of some sort.

That said, its about being realistic. Dan is not a self-made man from the looks of things, and I'd warrant that he makes more money of instagram than he has off poker at this point tbh.

He is absolutely the play-boy ideal, but he is not a good role model because there's no path to follow. Dan is something of a problem because he represents a near unattainable end-goal that people lust after. Like almost everything else people want his stuff rather than the hard work it takes to GET his stuff.

[–]yakamaz 0 points1 point  (4 children)

when you are that old you are probably fine with the egg muffin.

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Egg mcmuffins are delicious. It's the fact that he drinks mcdonalds coffee that is the real mortal sin.

[–]FriendlyJack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Their coffee is actually pretty good now.

[–]JoRocKStaR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I actually agree with this. Some dudes are set out to just marry their sweetheart but I'd say the majority of men wanna live DB's lifestyle at his current age. If that's how you wanna live then follow RP's principles till you're bored then live like Buffett and Gates

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I really don't get the people saying, "well if I had millions of dollars, I would be doing this.", as if automatically they would be partying it up and banging tons of chicks.

[–]innominating 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Meh, I know several 100 millionaires who live nothing like this. Most millionaires still give too many fucks.

[–]Tongue37 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Maybe they don't want to live like DB?!?if I was a multi millionaire like him I would honestly not be paying groups of women to come hang out with me on my boat..sure I might have done this for a few years in my 20s but it would have gotten very old fast..doing it into my mid 30s I'd just feel almost sad tbh..the thought of paying women to hang out with me is cringe

If this makes DB happy though im fine with it, too each his own

[–]innominating -1 points0 points  (1 child)

You are making an assumption he is paying them.

[–]Tongue37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read in many articles that he pays them nice money to come party with him..many are escorts after all i believe..

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah and i'm here in my dads basement eating oats trying to "get healthy" you can do " anything you want to with 100 million"

[–]Tongue37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly with $100m even short, bald guys with no game could achieve exactly what this guy has..I don't see the fascination tbh

[–]reecewagner 24 points25 points  (1 child)

He literally set his life up

Yeah, that's not what inheriting millions of dollars is

[–]1EarthExile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plenty of people do that, they don't all wind up like Bilzerian

[–]Gawernator 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The only lame thing about him is how hard he became a SEAL wannabe and he has a really bad reputation in the naval special warfare culture

[–]benefit111 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Easy to talk when you're at the top. Let's see him start from zero and the climb to the top and till then I'll consider him of substance. He seems pretty dry through the podcast though.

[–]spinalmemes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I sense some money jealousy here

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't even know what the guy does exactly?

[–]askmrcia 8 points9 points  (0 children)

He was a trust fund baby. I'm guessing now he makes his money through investments (Im sure he has top notch advisers) and cameo movie roles.

He probably makes money here and there for showing up a clubs and bars to help bring in traffic. All of these are speculation because he really doesn't have an actual job or run any businesses.

[–]Tongue37 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But he paid for all of that attention! That's the part about him that makes me cringe a little..I would not like the feeling of having to pay women to be with me and then taking pics of us together and acting like its some badge of coolness..

Props to him if it makes him happy

[–]yaboimoneymitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair, it wasn't really his dad. It was government gibs. He went through seal training twice and served on a few ships but got injured from BUDS and collected disability. He talked about it on JRE

[–]NMF_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don't shoot the messenger, but I heard that he doesn't actually get laid that much, that it's all an act. Girls do use him for the things he said, but I thought the secret was that all of the fronting didn't actually lead to him getting laid as much as you would think.

[–]raffdd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Sorry man but if you believe that for a second, you are missing every single point that this sub is trying to teach you.

[–]moneybags33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Women are FULLY controlled by social status. I would say their actions are more influenced by other women than men. If women see other attractive women interacting with you, it will automatically draw more of them to you. Found this out after not having a girlfriend for quite a long time. Then, once I got into a stable relationship, girls who had frequently paid little attention to me started blowing up my phone, snapchat, liking all my tweets & instagram posts. Also way back in middle school, I had a girl tell me she liked me just to get me to break up with the girl I was currently "dating." Jealousy is one hell of a drug!

[–]blackedoutfast -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

he inherited a lot of money but he's done a really good job creating a persona and building up a huge social media presence. it wasn't just blind luck. a lot of people inherit shit tons of money and don't become celebrities.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So a male Kim Kardashian? Wow, what a remarkable man. Look out, Thomas Edison.

[–]PatsFever 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of people don't want to.

[–]billponderoas 240 points241 points  (31 children)

This guy gets pussy because he's very wealthy and he lives an abundant and extravagant lifestyle. It's as simple as that, don't overanalyze this guy any further.

[–][deleted] 69 points70 points  (4 children)

Just wanted to throw it out there that its hard to take this guy serious when he is supposedly a "professional poker player" but seeing him play uncovers the truth. His poker "career" is a money laundering cover for his daddy's stolen money; the guy is a fraud, a low life.

If anyone's interested on his pro poker abilities watch this vid.

[–]ChipMania 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That video was fucking hard to watch, how can you be a self proclaimed poker pro and make plays like that.

[–]RedDeadCred 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Yep, his only redeeming quality is that he isn't a huge asshole.

[–]deville05 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Which is amazing cuz I'm sure with that kinda money, hoes and attention most people would be one

[–]mocket_ran 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He also has a pussy coordinator like most rich bachelors do.

[–]Hammerhead9 43 points44 points  (0 children)

much agreed, he has the ability to exercise all of TRP characteristics with ease because of his money/privilege

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If I only had my own helicopter

[–]SrPildoraRoja 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes and no. He has the money and the extravagant lifestyle, but he's also in control since he's unplugged in the way he sees women and understands the power dynamics between men and women. This is not always the case with wealthy people, since many tend to think that because you can buy anything, you must be respected/loved/fuckable. That's a turn off for women since it's a display of beta traits.

[–]DesignerTom 6 points7 points  (16 children)

He is also very attractive.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The lesson to draw from this guy is his ability to be confident in who he is and what he says. Regardless of his status and how he achieved it, we know him because of his unapologetic arrogance and bravado through which he lives his life. That's what makes him a role model.

[–]billponderoas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel sorry for any man that calls Dan bilzerian his role model

[–]RedPillWintergreen -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

It's easy to be confident when have everything handed to you. Put him in a foxhole during the siege of Bastogne and see how much actual bravado he has. Now THOSE are men to respect.

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[–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (9 children)

You know, these guys who read life advice from people who were living in completely other time and civilization?

Like, reading wise advice from Buddhist monks. You know what, those fuckers were MONKS living in another time and civilization mediating half of their lifes.

Or Dale Carnegie, who is also mentioned here. Of course, being nice works for him. He is Dale Carnegie. His very important technique in handling people is remembering their names. I dare you, remember names of all people you meet and look how precisely nobody gives a fuck. You are not Dale.

Or...Dan Bilzerian? I think guy is cool. Got absolutely nothing on him. But he is famous millionaire. How far you guys think you will go, listening his advice?

If you need to listen to anyone, that should be someone who had problems similar to yours and solved them, in my opinion.

What the fuck is gold about Bilzerian, I am wondering.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

On a side note, I bought Dale's book a while back. It does seem dated AS FUCK.

You think it's a pointless read bra? Give your input.

[–]smilingbanana points points [recovered]

I wouldn't say pointless or outdated. Rather, most of things in the book will have desired effect if you are powerful as Dale was.

I don't see anything ground breaking in the book. It could eventually be useful to people who have ZERO social skills due to poor upbringing or coming from another culture.

On the other hand some techniques mentioned in the book will make you look very vulnerable and naive.

From a man of his knowledge and experience, I would like to see the book about how to negotiate and fight / break competition. But he didn't write that one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You make solid points.

I don't understand what about Dale strikes you as him being powerful.

He held lectures, wrote a book, and led workshops. Maybe I'm missing something bro? Just curious.

[–]smilingbanana points points [recovered]

Well after short "research" seems you are right, he isn't so powerful as I got impression from his book. But still, for that time, to write bestsellers and hold trainings for people in power surely got him much points and important connections.

I recommend to read his short biography on Wikipedia, quite interesting. Seems he was pretty persistent and bold.

[–]Boeing797-300ER 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Lots of the girls appearing naked his photos would probably spit in the face of a low SMV man and talk about their hatred of being "objectified". Looks Money Status. Never forget it brothers.

[–]103342 147 points148 points  (53 children)

If there is one thing you can learn from guys like him is how utterly disposable something becomes once you have it in abundance. This guy is redpilled about women because he sees them as purely an object. If something is being given freely it becomes disposable.

Now think that women have this. What this millionaire, high status guy has. The average woman has this type of attention fromthe opposite sex. Not the models, the celebrities, the very good-looking ones. But the boring plain janes...

This is why I say that men will only be truly redpill once they have experienced this sort of abundance. Once you see what women do behind the good guy's back the redpill with be pushed down your throat.

If you still want to get married in this day and age you need to go look for some professional help, the way I see it, its insanity.

[–]1SeemedGood 23 points24 points  (0 children)

This guy is redpilled about women because he sees them as purely an object.

Seeing women as objects isn't the point of RP. It can be a result of one's increased awareness about the nature of women, but it's certainly not the end goal, nor should it be as it's a deleterious attitude towards life and others. Just because women are so unconscious that they view everyone else as objects (with the occasional exception of their children), doesn't mean that we should do the same. By taking the approach that we should objectify others (and women in particular) as objects as a response to their objectification of us we simply lower ourselves to their level - which is a lack of consciousness and self-mastery. Why would we want to do that?

Perhaps the better option would be to retain our ability to see/respect others as human beings with souls and just be more selective about the women with whom we choose to share anything other than a purely sexual relationship. If a given woman is not at least desiring of increasing her level of consciousness, learning how to see others as human beings with souls, and thus developing the ability to appreciate others for who they are then you don't extend your soul and your love to that woman. That doesn't mean that you see her as an object, it just means that you recognize and appreciate her as she is and limit your interaction with her to a level that she is prepared to understand. You may certainly appreciate the beauty of her soul even - just from a distance, and with the understanding that she is unaligned with it and therefore likely has little consciousness, no self-mastery, and none of the true self-confidence that flows from both and will therefore act out of the innate, the sub-conscious, the ego, and the overwhelming insecurity that flows form those parts of us.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The average woman does NOT get this attention. If you were born an ugly chick you're done. If you're born pretty but don't take of yourself you're done. If you're born pretty and take care of yourself... Awesome, but you too would be done as old age hits you in your late 30s and that's being pretty conservative. And in any case if you don't go out at all, if you don't have a social circle, if you don't have a life that exposes you to attractive guys, the best you can hope for is to settle with an average guy in an average job.

Confirmation bias makes us think that the average girl is a twenty thirty year old blonde who's a little puffy but still an HB6 and most guys would hit her up. Statically speaking the average woman is in her mid forties from an Asian country (China) with a low income, single, and working a day job to make ends meet.

I think it's fair to say that girls are playing a different game than us guys, but it's not fair to say that their game is necessarily easier than us. There are more things within our control than within theirs.

[–]NakedAndBehindYou points points [recovered]

Dude inherited millions from dad and has pretty decent facial and body genetics. Anyone can become a red pill master with those gifts.

[–]newflame97 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Important to note he was on large amounts of steroids for many years. He maintained that large amount of muscle mass while also consuming incredible amounts of cocaine, MDMA, and alcohol. Those drugs eat away at muscle. You could argue that his heart attacks at a fairly young age (early 30's?) are in large part to that. These days I hear he has to stick with TRT for life because his receptors and natural hormones are fucked.

[–]Undersleep 4 points5 points  (0 children)

His heart attack, based on the account he gave on JRE, was simply cocaine-induced. He sounded sooooo proud of himself, too... except that we get at least a handful of retards just like him in the ER, every single week.

[–]1TimmyTurnersNuts 55 points56 points  (16 children)

Meh. Dan posts ALOT of stuff in character. I actually read somewhere he is actually not that flashy and on your face in real life. He's still a trust fund baby though. Overall seems to have a good idea. Some like him, some dont.

[–]Corruptdead 9 points10 points  (5 children)

I've never really met someone from money, wouldn't it be hard to not have confidence if you're born rich?

[–]blackedoutfast 21 points22 points  (2 children)

i know plenty of people from families with way more money than DB and they have just as many issues with low-confidence, depression, anxiety and all that stuff.

[–]askmrcia 6 points7 points  (1 child)

How many people on this sub are like that? Not rich, but alot of people on here have good jobs and no debt and still think about killing themselves because they can't get laid.

You're right. Money doesn't solve everything and no one knows what goes on DB's life behind closed doors. Dude might be addicted to child pornograpgy and we'll never know.

[–]landon042 6 points7 points  (0 children)

always reminds me of the young guy that came here, had some 50million startup in san francisco and he couldn't get laid to save his life. When many of us think god fucking damn if we were that fortunate, the things we could do with the money.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He poses for pre-selection. That's what social media is for.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 24 points25 points  (3 children)

"Life is about set up." I've seen this interview and that one line spoke to Me. He hated the whole courting process so he set it up so that him and his boys had tons of girls around him all the time. He doesn't need to build rapport and the girls come and go as they please. If you want to hear how he did it, watch the interview. He may be a trust fund baby, but he'd smart. I can't say I don't admire him in that regard.

[–]slay_it_forward 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Only with huge wealth can you set yourself up in that way.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That line really stuck out to me as well. How you set up your life is important, even when you don't have millions.

Do you set it up in a way where you are living somewhere that is convenient to get to work, go to the gym, or run errands?

Things like maid service, which I want when living on my own can make keeping your place clean, a lot easier.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Am I still on the redpill here? Very telling lads, very telling.

The butthurt and passive aggressive statements in the comments confirms my suspicions that lot of you dudes are sheep in wolves clothing.

Where's the objectivity? You're speculating on his character like a bunch of betas leaning up against the bar judging a guy on the dancefloor. Since when does having money(whether it was handed to you or not) make you an alpha male?

Whether you're rich or not, there are guys who know what to do with five girls in a hot tub, and guys who don't. Dan is the former and you should look up to him for that.

[–]RedAsBlood 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They are just jealous.

If any of them actually listened to dan's conversation with joe rogan they'd realize hes a stand up guy who would be super fun to party with and goes way out of his way to help out his buddies.

He just gets a lot of hate because he leads a lifestyle most guys can't even imagine.

I'd love to party with dan.

But then again i'm not a sex starved desperate loser.

[–]EscortSportage 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He was on Joe Rogans podcast as well on youtube, great insight.

[–]zephyrprime 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Dan is a great example of how to use social media to his advantage. As he says himself, he has built up his image so that nowadays he "doesn't have to work" to get chicks. Notice that he implies he used to have approach like a normal guy before he got famous.

[–]beautyqueen1790 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dan Birzerian is cool and all and sure most women flock to him but he isn't necessary the ideal man.

[–]botsquash 7 points8 points  (3 children)

What the real lesson I think for RP'ers is to realise the importance of money. Even if u you frame and etc, if u dont have the minimal amount of resources, you aint getting high quality girls. TDLR; get money

[–]logicalthinker1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ehhh, if you're good looking, good body, good personality, etc. you don't need to be super rich. Don't don't be a pathetic fast food worker.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sure you can. My neighbor is broke, has no real job, but is somewhat good-looking and plays in a popular local reggae band so gets tons of girls. A friend of mine lives at home with his mom, drives Uber to make enough money to buy booze, but he makes low budget indie movies with another friend and he pulls attractive girls too. If you think you need money to get pussy you need to go back to "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bux".

[–]botsquash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure you do fine as a broke ass, it's just easier and better when you have money as well. Now imagine your broke neighbor wasn't broke and earned big bucks and still had rp knowledge, he could do much better

[–]anon2777 6 points7 points  (0 children)

dude is ass at poker though lol

[–]victor_knight 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Dan Bilzerian wouldn't be Dan Bilzerian if he was fat, though... and there's a RP lesson in that too.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Watch his Joe Rogan podcast it's awesome. Dans a smart guy contrary to popular belief and just does what makes him happy

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Guys,

Listen to the Joe Rogan Experience Podcast with Dan. It's absolutely amazing. I can't recall the number, a google search and you're set.

Also, while I'm not saying this is true or false, on the podcast he did say for certain all of his money came from poker. Believe him or not.

[–]nabosch[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Seriously the jealousy here is ridiculous

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Right? If you took that energy of complaining someone is better than you, you'd be at his level.

He doesn't care what an anonymous redditor thinks about him. He's too busy blocking your girl on snapchat because she won't stop harassing him.

[–]ZT3V3N 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I really do hate how much having a trust fund makes you a "trust fund baby living off daddies money" stereotype. It's not their fault their parents were wealthy and fucken smart enough to set their kids up.

[–]Azzmo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is what it looks like to feel no false guilt.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Never even heard of the dude. What does he do? How did he get to where he is?

[–]M474D0R 9 points10 points  (2 children)

He does nothing but spend daddy's money and post about it on social media. He got to where he is by spending daddy's money and posting about it on social media.

[–]wendysNO1wcheese 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Figures. I wonder how much them broads cost to have hang around.

[–]M474D0R 4 points5 points  (0 children)

they do it for free now because he's famous and established. im sure there were some pros in his pics at SOME point tho

[–]al032184 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"What does he do? How did he get to where he is?" Exactly

[–]mcr00sterdota 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't stand this guy because he hasn't really done anything amazing to become rich and famous (besides daddy's money). Although I will admit this guy is Alpha as fuck.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Having fuck you money tends to do that.

I don't have a problem with the guy, how he got his money and how he's living his life.

I do however have a problem where in a thread, subreddit whatever you want to call it that's about self development, people are using his situation putting it under a microscope and prescribing it as an example of going zero to hero.

[–]casemodsalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who wouldn't want to bang hot chicks if they are rich, fit and good looking

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Came across a Larry King interview with Dan Bilzerian, everything you’d expect out of the guy. Pure RP gold.

Dude when did feminine, narcissistic, superficial, materialistic attention whores become RP idols?

You guys are being cucked by the mainstream media and corporate machine to worship dumbass, mentally ill, weak men like Trump and Bilzerian. These guys are NOT "red pill," whatever that even means anymore. The fact that the dude needs constant validation from strangers about how awesome his life is proves that he is a weak faggot.

As somebody else in this thread said, the only reason he gets to life the "red pill" life is because his daddy is rich. And he is too much of a fucking faggot to admit it, so he tells this obviously transparent lie that he made all the money playing poker.

I run in a pretty rich crowd in the city I am from and I know lots of wannabe Bilzerian rich guys. I can tell you for a fucking fact that these guys are dumb, emotional cucks. The girls around them are prostitutes and they are constantly getting hustled.

This guy's whole life is a fucking image so he's obviously not going to advertise the times when he gets hustled and played. And if he knows how to game bitches now, it's because he got hustled out of millions of dollars by prostitutes and learned some lessons.

Anybody who 1) believes anything Bilzerian or Trump says and 2) idolizes them is a fucking retard.

[–]logicalthinker1 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

lol you're all over the place buddy.

The mainstream media fucking hates this guy!! In their eyes, he's the epitome of the evil misogynistic toxic masculine male. What the fuck are you talking about?

Stop talking like a conspiracy theorist, it's not a good look. You sound like Alex Jones.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWoujo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, the idea that a man should spend his life buying fancy toys, fucking stupid soulless girls, and impressing other people on social media is exactly what pop culture/the media is pushing. If they hate Bilzerian, it's precisely because he is such an obvious example of the life they are pushing that people see how unhappy and sad it really is.

All that said, you missed the whole point of my post, which is that guys like Bilzerian should not be looked up to.

[–]BigGigantic13 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Lmao, Bilzerian is like the ultimate fucking douche in my opinion. He is nothing and would be even less of something without all of his daddy's money. There is nothing cool about this guy at all. He has people, guys and girls, hang around him because they use him for his money and entertainment. He's a loser piggybacking off of his daddy. There is nothing to learn here except that having tons of money brings out the mooches. Surprise surprise.

[–]Arnoux 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He also has a really good body and nice beard. I am sure, that majority of people on this subreddit doesn't have body like that. I have been working out for years and my body is not even close to his. Yes he is using steroids but that doesn't change the fact that my body is inferior :D

[–]mocket_ran 3 points4 points  (2 children)

People love to hate on this guy but why...he is doing whatever the fuck he wants> What surprises me most is why aren't more rich and famous dudes living this lifestyle...I sure would be.

[–]askmrcia 0 points1 point  (1 child)

hat surprises me most is why aren't more rich and famous dudes living this lifestyle

Two ways to answer this. A lot of pro athletes and young entertainers live like him.

Other millionaires choose not too because they know that's how you end up losing money and going broke.

[–]mocket_ran 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes agreed..valid points however I work in Hollywood and constantly work with people that I know are more than set for life in terms of money and they are stressed out and still working...not living the dream like this crazy fuck.

[–]dark_kniggit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

His recent stop on Rogan was great too.

[–]kagetsuki23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this dude know how to enjoy life.

[–]dustyh55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AWALT? Not really, you're only taking into account the girls that are choosing to sleep with him. And they usually chose to sleep with him because of those qualities.

This reasoning is quite cyclical.

There are always women like that, but not AWALT, at least by any logical reasoning I'm aware of.

[–]RedPillWintergreen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really don't know much about the man. I see his name pop up on social media from time to time. I think he is some sort of instagram star. Who cares? From reading comments on this thread I understand he inherited all his money. So to me that makes him like an HB10 born with the genetics of a symmetrical face and big tits. Someone to be aware of take advantage of but not someone to respect or learn anything from. Jamie Dimon, Hunter Harrison, Ray Dalio, James Mattis, etc. Those are what you call real killers.

[–]Neverd0wn 6 points7 points  (4 children)

OP knows he pays for those girls right?

[–]prodigy2throw 12 points13 points  (2 children)

FWIW I know a few girls who've been on his snaps. He really doesn't pay how you think. These girls meet him or they actually fly down to where he is and fuck him as long as he tags them on his Instagram. Yes he pays for food, they live with him and drink all his liquor and do all his drugs. But he has enough money so it's all trivial.

As far as I know, it's not an overt system where they charge him hourly or some arrangement. Millions of girls will fuck famous guys for free.

[–]RedPillWintergreen -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Well that's still more than I pay so why should I respect him?

[–]prodigy2throw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol how much do you pay for those models?

[–]AtlasAnt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From somebody who is good at poker, he really, really sucks at poker.

I highly doubt that he has been profitable long term.

[–]rpogami 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not sure how anyone on this sub can relate to him. His father was a corporate raider who went to prison for various SEC violations. Dan is a socialite who pays women to hang in his entourage financed by his father.

[–]trippinallday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guy has definitely seen and done a lot. This is my favorite video of him, he makes his point very well: https://www.instagram.com/p/BRHWZ_zgmoj/

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is like a RSD 10th degree blackbelt.

[–]PranksterLad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Question - He says he isn't a good role model for people of the younger generation - yet why are we praising him? I am just curious.

[–]sygede 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah except like 5 people on this sub can probably achieve Dan's level.

[–]redditereddit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]Tongue37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm I don't think Bilzerian is all that to me..he used to be a dork growing up but since he came into money and has some social status due his wealth and poker, now he is a stud..

He pays most of these women to hang out with him correct? That is pretty sad to me tbh..I assume he always gets laid after these paid weekends together?he seems to love the attention he gets from paying a group of porn stars to be on his boat with him..that to me is beta as he is trying too hard to impress someone out there..

Seems like a nice guy but I don't see him as some true alpha stud..I see him as some guy trying way too hard to live up to some kind of reputation..

[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't think he's that alpha he just seems like the kind of dude who just doesn't really care about much and had a stroke of good luck, that's why the video after that was about him having a series of heart attacks and how his party lifestyle has affected his health. he inherited money from someone elses hard work, and it just happened to snowball because he got good at poker. he doesn't have much personality or anything that really stands out about him, not much presence. it would be like saying that mark zuckerberg is an alpha because he owns facebook. 2c

[–]campechampz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its also funny how people never mention that he's 5'6. It proves that your height can be compensated for some other factors

[–]williesmokes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So much nitpicking and bitching in this thread.

[–]Koryphae_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you ever want to just settle down? “Um sometimes, at the end of a long weekend maybe” 35 and top of his game why stop now?

Did he not have a heart attack at like in early of his 30s from doing all the blow? No wonder he says 'I do not drink much'.

On a more serious note though, I would not consider a public interview from a person with such history and reputation to be of any value.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Easy to preach when you're loaded as fuck and set for life

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some shit on this sub is accurate. Then there's this shit. He's a rich dude cause he inherited wealth. Women like money no shit.