Men's RightsMariah Carey seeking $50 million inconvenience fee for splitting with billionaire fiancé (self.TheRedPill)

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Wow... Just wow. I doubt it will hold up in court, however the ever sliding scale of women's rights is being pushed further and further towards their already wide advantage.

$50 million as well as a house in Los Angeles is what is at stake for her ex fiancé. What is at stake for the higher earners of a relationship with in America is that even with out committing to marriage, we may now have to pay a severance fee.

I posted this because I wanted to raise awareness that even though things in the US are already slanted towards the lower earner of a relationship, that there is an ever growing line of entitlement. I do hope that this assertion by Mariah is laughed out of court, but this raises some serious red flags with our culture. I would like further input from the community on this!

[–][deleted] 218 points219 points  (89 children)

Mariah Carey could literally be the poster child for modern women.

1.Too much fame leading to crazy, attention starved acts. Name a female popstar---Sans Beyonce because she's more protected by her family/marketing than anyone person ever---that hasn't gone nuts? It's the same with women and social media. Women want attention like men want sex, but social media is bad for them the way porn is bad for us.

2.She left her original man, the rich older one who helped make her famous, hit the wall, and started dating Nick Cannon, a young, black entertainer. Much like Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher proved, Young Man+Older Woman=No

3.Marries rich, supplicant beta, but she's so fucking terrible at this point even he can't put up with it.

[–]RPmatrix 88 points89 points  (53 children)

Mariah Carey could literally be the poster child for modern women

haha! I was only thinking this yesterday! She denied him sex "prior to marriage" ... He was a fuckwit for even going there!

(and IF he weren't rich and (in)famous) He could hire $10k a day escorts and have a far better time than, ugh, I find the word repulsive ... marrying this piece of fluff!

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (50 children)

please understand something I've preached since Day 1:

Women have 0 power...0.

Their only weapon works if you open the hatch on the tank and let them put the bomb in there and walk out.

If men went back to having standards women would comply because they are dependent on the groupthink for survival.

[–]piggypoo 27 points28 points  (1 child)

very much this. the power they "have" is derived from white knights that come to their aid when then cry raep.

[–]bingo83 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Women will always have power because there will always be white knights, and I'm saying that in non-sexual context. There will always be fathers and uncles and brothers of women who want to make sure they live well.

Now I know many here have no plans or desire to reproduce but when and if you do, there's a 50% chance you might father a female and that could be a game changer for you personally as well.

[–]IGoYouStayTwoAutumns 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This would solve 99% of newbie questions right here.

The only power women have is the power you let them have.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This actually applies to ALL people and situations!

The only 'power' anything has, is the 'power we Give it'

and I mean "everything"!

[–]RPmatrix 10 points11 points  (41 children)

Are you saying they have "0 power" in the SMP or IRL or what? you've confused this aussie

I was just saying, Packer should've seen the Red flags long ago.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (39 children)

They have 0 power, period.

If a woman wants to pick you up she walks up and goes "do you think I'm hot" and if you say no then she has no back up plan.

If modern feminism was just 10-15% of women just screaming about the patriarchy they would get nowhere. They're totally dependent on men going along with it.

Women have a nuclear bomb but it only works at 1 inch range.

[–]babybopp 27 points28 points  (15 children)

I mentioned this about Ciara and Russell wilson and got absolutely chewed on it. That woman will take him to the cleaners in a few years after their kid is 2-3 yrs old. How they date for a year and a half where she made him wait to have sex on their wedding night.... or he just beta' oneitis her. Either way, when a girl comes from dating a dude like Future and has his kid.. she is onto some serious branch swinging. She is 4-5 yrs older than him. She is worth 15 mil. Mark my words, his 120 million dollar net worth is being primed right now for the taking.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Man Ciara and Russel Wilson is typical black girl behavior(The worst women on Earth)

Have a baby daddy from a baller and then find a dope to take care of you once all that "independent girl" shit dries up.

Everyone's just trying to be black girls thanks to oprah, Beyonce, and rihanna.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (5 children)

as if white girls don't do the same

[–]A22H013 2 points2 points [recovered]

The STD rates between the races gives the hint that, no, not every group does things to the same degree.

Will you go SJW on me for pointing out that simple fact too?

[–]DenyHerYourEssence 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He's not an SJW for saying that women practice AF/BB regardless of ethnicity. That's just truth.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

no. but "Have a baby from a baller and then find a dope to take care of you" is a white thing. black women would "Have a baby from a baller and then proceed to have 3 other babies from 3 other ballers". :D

[–]BluestBlackBalls 31 points32 points  (0 children)

How did this go from Alpha Fuck and Beta Bux to:

typical black girl behaviour(The worst women on earth)

[–]RedMoonAscendant 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Wow. Even black dudes aren't allowed to call black women on their shit anymore.

Admittedly it isn't a causal relationship but it's fucking clear to anyone who dated into the culture.

[–]the_calibre_cat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Right? Aren't they, like, the only men (other than Cholos) that are more or less allowed to be red pilled because (in the screechiest SJW voice possible), "IIIIIIT'S THEIR CULTURE"?

Guess not. They still have wide leverage over whitey, though.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess is we've been invaded by the SJW horde and they didn't know TheeRyanGrey is of glorious African descent and a true gentleman who's a connoisseur of feminine specimens who's sampled of all different races and cultures.

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[–]1earlpfeiffer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you haven't read her yet, Camille Paglia writes about this in a number of books and essays (Sexual Personae and Who Stole Feminism? are two of the better ones).

[–]RPmatrix 5 points6 points  (21 children)

women as 'humans' have 'power' just by being -- "how much" power is another thing and depends upon many things. Some things, like what is called here at TRP as "third wave feminism" doesn't really exist in Oz, as it stems from the 'lesbian seperatist feminists' of the 1980's ("women need men like fish need bikes") who wore blue wife beaters and wouldn't even speak to a man! It died out in the 90's to return as dykes who had 'matured' and now tolerated men - coz it's simply not Australian to be so fucking 'elite' ... we don't like the 'elite' down here, with 'our' convict heritage and all!

And I'm only half joking when I say all of this, but one thing's for sure, Oz culture =/= American culture (although TPTB and the MSM are trying hard to make it so) but our 'convict anti-authoritarian past' still runs in our blood to a certain degree, we tend to reject what we're "Told to do" ... by any 'authority', especially the 'rich and famous (British based) 'masters'.

For these and other reasons, Australia's a very cool country (and AWALT exists wherever there are women) and after a while it was seen that such 'silliness' simply didn't fly in countries like Australia -- We have legal prostitution here and a thriving LGBT community .... and No One Gives a Fuck!

Aussie women have always been considered 'strong', and in my grandma's day, they had to be to survive and thrive in this country. The Catholic/christian mentality' prevailed back in her day and marriage was more a thing you did to suceed in your dreams, together with a good partner you could, but alone as an "old maid" you would likely die alone.

Both the post WW periods were filled with women who's husbands/bfs died in the war and would never find another man to be with again, as there was also a shortage of men their age, the 1950's and 60's were filled with single people who would die lonely and alone.

My mum was an 'original feminist' down here in the 1970's. But "feminism" never got the foothold down here like it did in the US, coz Aussie women felt they didn't need it! lol! Like I said, most Aussie women 'felt they had power in their relationships' BUT effective oral birth control changed the meaning of "power" and 'control' for women all over in the 60's,

but IMHO the 'average young Aussie girl' hasn't been as brainwashed with Disney-Lies/The One Bullshit, to the same extent as the 'average you American girl' and are much more down to earth, less bullshit overall, more genuine as people (still AWALT) but easy to get on with, more real

you need to come downunder for a year bro ... it's very different, but the same, to the US, you'd like it --- you wouldn't believe the difference having prostitution legal since forever that it's so NBD it's not even mentioned, ever! - unless you're looking to buy a fuck or get a job!

I reckon every HB7 and up I got to know well finally admitted to me one day that they "had worked for money", some only a few times, some for quite a while, sometimes their bf's know, half the time they don't! Fucking for money makes girls 'different', it's an act, a game to the ones who do it best, But sometimes that 'act' carries over into their home life, and that's when it can get weird if you're a bf!

TL:DR: most girls will "sell sex" IF they think there will be little to no 'repercussions' from doing so --- as it is in Australia as "prostitution" Is Legal, So "fuckable" Aussie girls who are out for some 'quick cash' often end as a "sex worker" of some type for a week or 50!.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Australia might be THEE most feminist women at this point

[–]RPmatrix 3 points4 points  (2 children)

what makes you say that?

we're a looong way from Norwegian style femadness!

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

A lot of my bigger clients are Australian Men.

A lot of the women I deal with are Australian Women.

After 2-3 years of personal experience and everything I've read, it seems Australia is a breeding ground for this.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ahh, 'corporate Australia' is another world altogether, with 'middle corporate femhell' being the worst,, But at least it's contained at work!

although I've met many an independent minded female lawyer or dr who has little time for bullshit, of any kind. I find them very refreshing myself.

[–]youreunbelieveable 7 points8 points  (2 children)

R u kidding m8? Oz may be in the running for most feminist cucked place along with Toronto and Sweden. Seriously.

Full Disclosure I've only spent time in populated areas, Sydney, Byron Bay, Goldie, Brizzy.

[–]haxurmind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly haven't been in Australian rural areas, men who have done a fair share of work requiring brawn tend to be better grounded than the dreamers in the cities.

Still, I agree that we are in the feminism race due to the annual migration of children/young adults heading to those areas for tertiary education; from which a small % return given the higher rates of unemployment in said communities.

[–]ChuckRock123 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Aussie here. Also lived in USA for 3 years.

And all I can say to this is that it is so out of touch with reality I don't know where to begin.

6 in one half dozen the other.. Aussie chicks aren't anything special - relax mate.

[–]kanyewost 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lol the life of a typical aussie guy (all races) is the gym 5 nights a week with da boyz, watching girls on the treadmill but never actually doing anything about it.....

Thank fuck i'm not typical

[–]Limekill 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Many ripped guys are basically complete 100% white knights - the culture here is very PC and whiteknighting is a very popular past time. Except for the middle east guys.

[–]kanyewost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol i know lots of middle east guys, they believe in zyzz too much for their own good and they end up getting arranged engagements just lol

[–]redpilltaste 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You may need to help readers by letting them know which town you live in. I have just moved from inner melbourne to perth and the women are much as you described, not so much in brunswick, Melbourne.

[–]Hussssy 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good explanation - I say that as its also how I see Australia, I don't see a lot of the BS Americans and others have to put up with.

thanks for the history, im 26 so I didnt know or grow up around much of it. would be interested in knowing the age and racial background of people who disagree with you, perhaps the younger people are having a different experience.

For sure we have hoes and betas like everywhere does but there's something special about our culture, it's chill, people are friendly and a lot of different cultures and sexual orientations get a long without getting in your face as you said above. we are also still quite a conservative country at the core and I see a lot of it as being family oriented.

I do see a higher content of BS in workplaces and it seems to be contained there. This may not be a country specific thing but a general workplace thing and women in the workplace thing.

I think a big part comes down to how you view life and your attitude as to your overall perception of the state of affairs. Aussies just tend not to worry too much.

I think that we also have a lot more "good" women and men since we have a lot of recent (1940's and 50's) immigrants that instilled more traditional values.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TBH I still wonder exactly what that 'something' is, but then I speak to a girl raised in the bush ... and I stop wondering.

There's no room for "all that shit" in the bush, male, female, doesn't matter .... and it's our heritage to challenge authority, once again, be you man, woman or dingo!

[–]Limekill 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Before strong meant something, it meant battling the elements - droughts and flooding plains, standing by your family, strong protestant work ethic - but where the hell are the flooding plains now? The majority of the girls live in their parents Air-conditioned Mcmansions with pools and go to nail clinics for their falseys.

There is no need for womon to be 'strong' now, absolutely no need. But we still have strong aussie w0m0n who have the most grating accent on friggin earth (there is nothing worse than a screaming Australian woman) and are base. This comment (not by me) was written in 2012 and not much has changed: "All too often they come across as boozing, aggressive, condescending and possessing an extreme sense of entitlement."

Intellectual thought is not valued here (look at the group think here in Australia if you disagree) and so the hot girls, while tending to have uni degrees, are about as clever as a post. So basically fucking until 28 (hot ones passed around by bros) and then find a guy because baby rabbies.

Many rich IT guys ($3,000+ p/w) do not go with Aussie 'babes' but hook up with Asian women - if you don't believe go look at pyrmont.

Because prostitution is legal and society is anti-religion (except the moslim religion and 'dreamtime') quite a few girls partake, esp. during Uni (must have latest phone, car, etc).

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (3 children)

mate . .. you're not wrong! Sadly we too have our 'Self Entitled Bogan Underclass' parodied by shows like Kath and Kim (which I despise) and 'Housos', which is an extreme OTT tv show loosely based on reality

But a seriously awkward, new show called FirstDates) is well worth a cringey watch! As you see all these BP guys, some beta, some not who demonstrate So much RP "what NOT to do" along with some good examples of 'self confident' (in a good way) guys doing well and how a mix of both can work too in some circumstances. It's a great "fly on the wall" look and being able to 'listen in' at what different couples are saying to each other during a dinner date.

And you'll see how many 18-20yo Girls ,, all who are HB7's and up, who admit to "never having been on a date with a guy before tonight!" --- at least 4/5 never have!

Why is this so? Becoz they don't really go out much, so they aren't around 'new guys' much,, and IRL 'on the street',, they never get approached in "a/the way she'll readily respond to from a Guy,, And she will will release what are Her own Special Brand of IOI! ,, BUT

Most guys miss All these IOI's that women give out, which confuses the women as the wonder why "he doesn't even respond to my most obvious advances!!" and it's the one thing I look back in my life wishing I had known what I do now, when i was much younger! The IOI's I got from girls I so wanted to fuck! Yet it's only in retrospect that I realise I "had a chance" with these babes of my first few, post HS years

Back to the show, lol

But IMO, "which two people" end up as 'couples' after the date and choose on "doing more together", is quite fascinating, esp when as the viewer, you have a RP understanding of female behaviours and how to 'read' and deal with the 'hidden signals' they give out, OR, plainly put in RP speak, female "IOI's",, aka Indicators of Obvious Interest" ... nothing hidden at all if you know what to look for, and then how to "make them want it even more'!

You see that Game is everything,, "Game is King" and this show, shows it very well.

Almost all the contestants are young and some of the guys demonstrate well, "how much" even basic self confidence can help a guy make the girl comfortable, especially by getting her laughing.

IOI ProTip: If she's been sincerely laughing at the things you're saying (which are meant to be 'amusing/funny') since the start of the date, you're off to a great start, happy girls are relaxed girls and are much more 'open' to your ideas once in your Frame (esp after a few drinks ;)

Self confidence also helps to 'take a woman into your Frame' in such a way she's fully comfortable in doing so and if needed, smooth out those awkward moments that can sometimes occur but are really NBD as long as someone makes it NBD!!!

In situations where "nobody is quite sure WTF to DO" in a given situation ,, Your position as the 'primary person in the group' e.g. the male in a couple, or the AMOG is to "figureout WTF is going on! lol And then 'explain it to the group as best you can'

Because; As the AMOG is The Position which 'allows You to define whatever the fuck the confusion's about and Say "calm down folks, let's think about this first before going off half cocked about maybe nothing" .... and then, after some speculative chatter and some 'investigation of the incident' ergo; "OK, so we can see that this WTF has turned ut to be essentially, none of our business, it just seemed like it might be, but we were wrong, so let's forget this shit ever happened and move on with our lives, ok people!" -- type thing!

But back to this (terribly produced -- I think it must be 'film and tv' students doing much of the work, camera operating etc!) but quite fascinating insight into various young couples going "out" to this 'restaraunt'

It's also a great example of guys playing all sorts of Game! Whilst the Alphas are rare, the other types of guys from Beta Bluepill Bobby with 'a gift' for his date, regardless!

Then there are the guys who are half confident but fail badly at basic shit tests

As for;

Many rich IT guys ($3,000+ p/w) do not go with Aussie 'babes' but hook up with Asian women

Yeah, much to their regret 15yrs later when she still looks 25 (on a bad day) and is divorce raping their (now fat) arse off!

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (2 children)

who admit to "never having been on a date with a guy before tonight!"

I agree with you these girls have never been on a date before. But lets be honest its not because they haven't been out with a guy - its because they are getting smashed at parties on goon bags and bacardi breezers, and losing their virginity in backyards to chads at 14. Then when its 16+ its going to the pub/nightclub and doing hookups with bros or wogs. Wining and dining is literally a foreign concept to them, going on dates is a foreign concept.

Is basically this - http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2015/08/tinder-hook-up-culture-end-of-dating which is based on dating NY but now can be applicable in any 'western' city with a population of over 2M.

TV show, something something, self confidence

Yeah the dating show is interesting - the issue is that its people who want to get on TV, and then the producers edit and re-edit. And its funny - if the guy is not a total berg then the hot womon will fuck him (much like the 35 year old women fucked the 30 year old guy - who was not interested in a relationship...). AWALT.


What and white wom0n don't have the same problem? 1 in 6 Australian women are morbidly obese (1 in 10 for men). With 56.3% of women being overweight.

Look Im not going to lie - white womon are seen as the best (Indians (and asians) want to sleep with who?) - mainly because white men are the best - the best at invention, warfare and economic systems - and so we made them the best, and because we now pussy worship, they have gotten sloppy - a large majority are not maintaining any standards of femininity - I mean US women know how to look after their skin at least, our women do not. Our women do not know how to cook. And more and more white women are now getting lap band as their only strategy to lose weight after the mandatory one child. The average weight of Australian women are 70.1 kilos - which means they are overweight.

The Asian culture are doing a far better job than we are - 24.4% of asians are overweight (compared to Australia's rate of 60%). The average weight is 57.7Kg. where aussie girls are 13kg heavier.

Its up to us to lead womon. And its much easier to lead an Asian womon than an Australian womon. With Asian women IF you have some game you can actually set the rules if you select a non bar girl; But you do NOT set the rules with an Australian womon (even if you believe you do). Most of my mates are older and not married anymore (most were married to Australian womon and divorced), the one that is married has a sexy 45 year old asian wife (THIN) with 2 great kids (best behaved kids I have ever seen), the other is with (not married) a virgin thai girl, who has put on 10kg in over 10 years - so she has gone from 40 to 50kg. She is hitting 40 soon.

These days Asian womon can afford all the skin care crap, and botox and the kind of stuff white womon can afford so I would ASSUME that they should start looking better than previously - just make sure you keep them thin.

White women who are 45+ and thin on dating sites are scary.

Yeah, much to their regret 15yrs later when she still looks 25 (on a bad day) and is divorce raping their (now fat) arse off!

Probably true - but really if a woman still looks good at 45 she may as well as get half your stuff - thats how far standards have fallen.....

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what's with all the statistics? You can only fuck one women at a time! (usually)

because white men are the best - the best at invention, warfare and economic systems

This is one RP 'belief' which is simply wrong. I'm not going to argue about it -- Just look up Female Nobel Prize winners to begin with ,, Oh, and your computer was made possible by a woman who wrote the first code!

but really if a woman still looks good at 45 she may as well as get half your stuff - thats how far standards have fallen.....

who's standards? Not mine!

That said,

bro, you need to get out there IRL! IDK where you live (BUT nowhere near 'half' the women <35 are overweight, let alone 'obese' in a city like Melbourne)

Maybe after they've had a few kids and gone to seed ... but not before!

You NEED to Get OUT there bro, instead of spouting statistics and parroting RP 'thoughts' and "assuming" so much! If Game IS everything, you're not going to get practice online arguing with me!

No offence intended, just RP honesty bro

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

p.s. good article, thanks for the link

[–]eterate 2 points2 points [recovered]

They have a lot of power, in votes.

They also have a lot of legal power, when you want to have kids and not move to a 3rd world country. You have to do some pretty special acrobatics to have singular custody of a child and have them be a good mother to the child.

They can also fuck you over in many ways if they were evil, like DV and all the other ways.

[–]slay_it_forward -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

They have all the power in the smp.

[–]fingerthemoon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They just have more power than BP BB, RP AF has the most power.

[–]jmax123 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He could hire $10k a day escorts

He could and he does.. the packer family are from my area and its well known that the men in the family have a stable of prostitutes and mistresses. I'd say the initial fame and status of Mariah Carey lured him in. He probably realised pretty quick she was a headcase and no different to any other pussy out there.

[–]RPmatrix 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He could and he does.. the packer family are from my area and its well known that the men in the family have a stable of prostitutes and mistresses.

That's good to hear ... I can't imagine he was lured just by her 'fame' ,, but who really knows. TF he's awoken to his BP frivolity!

Kerry, god bless his ugly mug, , shit! he was never fucked around by a piece of arse! (and watching his son "lose it" to a piece of fluff like Carey would have him was turning in his grave!)

[–]marlybarrow 33 points34 points  (16 children)

You guys don't know who James Packer is, he's Australian aristocracy. His grandfather and father dominated the media and were sought after for their influence on the public. He sold all of his media assets before everyone clued onto the fact that it was a dying industry and jumped into gambling. Now he's trying to break into Hollywood via his company RatPac Films and I believe him getting engaged to Mariah Carey was part of the deal. It was a quid pro quo, allow me access to Hollywood powerbrokers and I'll lend legitimacy to Ms Carey.

Here are some of his ex's:

Sly Stallones wife Jennifer Flavin

Model Erica Baxter

Model Jodhi Meares

Supermodel Miranda Kerr, apparently he payed a part in her break up with Orlando Bloom

So he's not a beta. And he knew exactly what he was potentially getting himself into.

[–]beginner_ 5 points6 points  (6 children)

OK, so you are saying that his thought-process was like:

  • She will cost me a lot
  • 10th of millions
  • but I can make billions with movies!!!


[–]marlybarrow 16 points17 points  (5 children)

His thought process was more like:

  • I'll get engaged with this woman after my trusted law firm ensures she can't take any of my shit. Ever.

  • Make hundreds of millions of dollars and make connections with the most powerful people in the entertainment industry.

The reason why I thought this was a sham marriage was for many reasons:

  1. He has a history of cute next door neighbour brunettes. Mariah Cary isn't that at all, shes a diva.

  2. He's friends with his former lovers and theres usually a friendship before they're in a relationship, nothing of the sort happened this time around. One day he's cruising with Miranda Kerr on his yacht the next he's engaged to Ms Carey. What a coincidence this was announced when his film company is trying to establish itself in Hollywood.

  3. He pays off his wives an amount of his choosing. Jodhi Meares got like $2m AUD, his wife of 6 years and mother to his children got $100m AUD. This way there is no scandal and his friends/former lovers are taken care of. I doubt Mariah Carey will get anything from Mr Packer.

The man, and his family, simply have too much experience dealing with these sorts of issues to have left anything to chance.

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

I don't know. ex wife cost him 100 m? kind of beta, or are you saying that was his plan all along?

[–]marlybarrow 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm saying for a man worth 3.5 billion 0.1 billion isn't that much. It's like, 3% of his total net worth that he gives to the mother of his children (heirs) of his own free will to avoid scandal and a protracted court battle.

To her credit, she accepted 3% of his net worth and didn't try to go for half.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/u/marlybarrow makes a Lot of sense while showing how "Aussie women" are nowhere near as Machiavellian than their American counterparts

To her credit, she accepted 3% of his net worth and didn't try to go for half.

that's the 'Aussie way', we do Not like "greedy people" down here. (although IMHO If he'd only been worth 1 million, she would've gone for at least half! Jodi Meares is what would be considered an 'Aussie A lister' and wasn't going to settle for some lame BP beta without at least 1 Bil! --- AWALT)

Anyway ,, she behaved as a cool Aussie woman does AND as a result, with little fuss, got more than enough to raise the kids and live comfortably PLUS she gets to stay 'friends' with one of The Most influential families in the country.

I'd call that a 'win' for both sides!

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

ehhhh if he has 3.5 billion 100 mill is still a lot, I'm just saying doubt that was his plan all along, to be out 100 mill

[–]marlybarrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nut there are several very good reasons why giving her 3% of his net worth is a good idea:

Lack of money won't retard the growth of his children.

Maintain a close and friendly relationship to exwife, which is good for kids.

No scandal. To the patriarch of the neo-aristocratic family, no scandal being played out in tabloids and courtrooms is important.

All of the above leaves him free to make deals, grow his gambling business in Asia and movie business in America. He has enough stress and pressure on his shoulders, a bitter divorce battle is not needed at all.

[–]RPmatrix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now he's trying to break into Hollywood via his company RatPac Films and I believe him getting engaged to Mariah Carey was part of the deal. It was a quid pro quo

aha! That makes perfect sense.

I don't follow such things, But this is hard to avoid if you're a sentient Aussie.

Thanks for filling in the 'whys and wherefores' bro ... you have explained how this debacle could've occurred in the first place.

TBH I wonder how much of this scenario wasn't a part of the original Plan ?!?

After all, never forget, in Hollywood there's No such thing as "Bad Publicity" --- (I bet HRC wishes she was a movie star right now ... with All those dubious 'emails' coming from elated fans!) Which is 'why' she needed a 'private server', of course! lol

I would'nt be at all surprised to find out this too, is just a part of an elaborate marketing scheme/scam for Packer's Hollywood 'debut', which they had put into place from the very beginning!

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

trying to break into Hollywood

He does not need to break into Hollywood. The Packers have been dealing with Hollywood even before the 1960s. He already finances a shitload of Hollywood movies. Go look at the list of movies..... Its a long, long list of popular movies (Avatar, X-Men, American sniper, Lego Movie, Wall Street 2, new Mad Max, Magic Mike, etc).

Now perhaps he wants to become a celebrity (but he didn't want to be part of Mariah Carey TV show and his father would of turned in his grave - so I don't think so) but I think he just wants say I know these cool people and the publicity does not hurt his casino business - Asian big whales would be impressed by who he knows, etc.

So he's not a beta.

True, to an extent. As soon as she messed around with her backup dancer it was over. he told her to get off his boat and get out of his house. Now she is trying to milk $50m out of him.

[–]inspiron3000 0 points1 point  (6 children)

If he is not beta then why did he accept Mariah Carey's 'No sex before marriage' rule?

[–]n0oo7 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Everyone above you are basically saying that since his main focus was to break into the hollywood film industry, sex was the last thing on his mind. Making millions>> Fucking Mariah carey.

[–]inspiron3000 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Marrying MC is not a career move for a billionaire that invests in Hollywood.

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)


Just read the long, long list of films.....

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is he really trying to break into hollywood? the Packers owned channel 9 (basically TV network) - hence they have been dealing with Movie (and TV) studios for a long, long time ago (40 years+). In fact Kerry Packers brother lived in the Hollywood Hills for the last 40 years and James has been friends with Tom Cruise since 2000.

Look - the Packers own the Australian Government (pretty much), he hosts the leaders of both major political parties all the time. IF he wanted to be a player in hollywood he would be (well if you look at the number of films financed - he is).

My guess is it he wants to shmooze with Hollywood people because he is bored and to a degree it helps his Casino image (any publicity is better than no publicity). But he does not need Hollywood for business.

[–]marlybarrow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Because he doesn't want to fuck her? Because it's a sham marriage?

Perhaps I've got this all wrong?

[–]inspiron3000 7 points8 points  (0 children)

She blue balled him to get the ring while messing with her choreographer.

[–]dagger_5005 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I went to high school with her, she was nuts before she was famous.

[–]TheEagleAndTheSnake 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I went to college with her. Several guys were found dead with two fang marks on their dicks and their blood completely sucked out. Everyone thought it was her but noone spoke about it publicly because they feared her vampyre blowjob.

[–]slay_it_forward 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I went to junior high with her. Still had a hot ass even at 13.

[–]TedTheAtheist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we have some real stories please?

[–]devilkingx2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how do you know her real name is mariah carey?

[–]SmilingWatermelon 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Dude. That one line about social media being as bad for girls; as porn is for men...fuck. that is huge. I think the goal would be to find a chick who ain't a social media whore but what pretty girl isnt?

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

good luck finding that unicorn

[–]SmilingWatermelon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ha. I ain't even searching.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

They didn't marry. That's the fucked up thing.

[–]Capn_Underpants 4 points5 points  (4 children)

In Australia you only have to live with someone for 2 year be entitled to the same rights as if you were married when you split up. A defacto marriage.

Well, unless you're in a gay relationship, then you aren't really recognised at all :)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know what you mean. We have that in America but it isn't that short.

That's why you gotta be careful since the laws are always changing to try and screw over the man to support a woman.

And BTW. 6 months man? She was with the guy for like 6 months. I know teenagers that have been together longer.

[–]writewhereileftoff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Easily solved by buying dual citizinship and changing your place of residence to another country. Anyways my point is a billionaire can pull shit like that off easily

[–]Horus_Krishna_2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good it'd be weird with gay relationships, what if it's just two straight dudes being roomates, then the one guy tries saying they were gay to sue.

[–]Hussssy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On tax returns you put the gender and name, dob etc of your partner and the combined taxable income is what is used to determine whether you meet/exceed thresholds for phi rebates, medicare levy etc. I believe its same regardless of gender

[–]1earlpfeiffer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I remember thinking Tommy Mottolla treated her like a child and then after they broke up I realized she was one. And you're right about the family. Just as she was becoming famous I was teaching a writing class for older students and her uncle was in the class. He told some great stories but the one that stuck was her mom used to game the system by working for just 22 weeks, just long enough to collect unemployment. It always begins at home. That's where she learned to be a princess, and that, btw, is also how the uncle talked about her.

[–]throw17453 88 points88 points [recovered]

She should be made to pay a fee for inconveniencing the court system.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

maybe we can get in on a class action lawsuit for those that accidentally saw her video clips

[–]1jb_trp 239 points240 points  (16 children)

"Hey, I have a vagina and he has money, so I should get some of it..."

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 59 points60 points  (5 children)

I just want to hear her go though her six octave range as I plow her salacious shitbox.

[–][deleted] 65 points66 points  (3 children)

She hasn't had that range for probably 20 years. Post wall women don't sound young and feminine.

[–]C1yde 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Yep, if you listened to her voice recently she sounds like a 40 year old trucker that smokes.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just watch that one christmas performance she had that went viral few years ago. That "6 octave" shit's loong gone

[–]watcher45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Give her a reason to sing loud.

[–]hyugafan 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Prostitution is illegal in name only, it seems.

[–]rossiFan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Illegal? Hell, it's practically taught.

[–]papersupplier 18 points19 points  (5 children)

And just think about how her stank her vagina is. Been plowed by so many producers and record executives it's like Costco up in there.

[–]scottbrio 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Full of great deals and snacks?

[–]_eskimo_brothers_ 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Nah, just full of paper products towards the back.

[–]stemgang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly the reasoning involved. All attempts to complicate it are merely distractions.

[–]Casanova-Quinn 86 points87 points  (7 children)

For those who don't know, her ex-finance is James Packer, a business mogul worth 3.5 billion. She's just a desperate gold digger who can't stand to walk away from a billionaire without getting any of his wealth.

[–]ether_reddit 18 points19 points  (2 children)

You'd think she'd consider herself well enough off that she doesn't need to ask for a penny.

[–]stemgang 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Integrity and self-respect are a small price to pay in exchange for looting a billionaire.

[–]ThreeMagi 6 points6 points [recovered]

Well, she's worth an absurd amount too, and married Nick Cannon who is probably a tenth of her net worth.

[–]yomo86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess you misread something her shit is worth millions Carey who barely writes her own songs and therefor is not entitled to royalities is rich by our understanding but her lifestyle is fucked up.

[–]nthman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nick cannon is worth 20 million. Mariah is worth 500 million more than he is. Its ridiculous that she is gold digging this poor schmuck.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

If she wins I bet every bitter ex gf across the country starts suing for "missed opportunities"

[–]OneInAZillion 34 points35 points  (0 children)

AWALT - even when she's rich as fuck.

[–]Alpha-as-fuck 24 points25 points  (0 children)

"There's an epidemic of gold digging whores."

Be careful gents.

[–]BobbyPeru 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"I'm talking about whores people"

           --Bill Burr 

[–]DenyHerYourEssence 31 points32 points  (5 children)

She'll lose. Even women know that awarding that kind of money to a non-spouse would represent a point of no return with serious ramifications.

[–]aDrunkenWhaler 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Since when are women known for strategic thinking?

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 19 points20 points  (0 children)

When they're plotting your downfall...

[–]ishyman 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Eminem destroyed her good : https://youtu.be/HEwFWFwPKmw

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it gets better every time someone links it and i give it another listen

[–]Wardenclyffe56 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Carey parted with Columbia in 2000, and signed a record-breaking $100 million recording contract with Virgin Records America.

Yeah, she'll be ok without the 50mill.

[–]inspiron3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should see her episode of MTV cribs.

Her lifestyle is expensive.

[–]craschnet 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well, almost any man who has a level head will want a pre-dating clause now.

[–]dagger_5005 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah but you have to understand that this isn't like a normal boy meets girl relationship. At diva pop star meets billionaire level, it's a business transaction and she's going to claim she was promised certain things, "oral agreements" (pun intended) etc. – in a normal relationship you'd laugh at a girl asking for moving expenses for following you across country and then breaking up - but in this case all a lawyer needs to do is prove damages.

[–]evilkenevil 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Nice payday. Webster's defines this as "whore". I'm guessing she's squandered through all of her money and needs to collect on her penalty box.

[–]Limekill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

She thought she found her betabux (him being a billionaire) and thought the $$$ were going to rain down and she didn't have to keep doing concerts; but the Packers are tough and call people out on shit.

[–]evilkenevil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apparently she was spending too much and the accountant warned him and she was given notice while on his yacht. She has MILLIONS of her own but was spending his money like a drunk politician.

Classic AWALT.

[–]tallwheel 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is really her desire to return to more traditional marriage privileges for women. In more traditional societies, breaking a marriage engagement was usually seen as a serious offense, often requiring reparations to be paid.

This is where modern women want to take society. They want to retain (or even regain) traditional women's privileges while being free to do whatever they want. The obligation to facilitate all of it will, as always, fall upon men.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Presumably she's also offering to make good on her side of the marriage obligations and suck him off twice a week....

[–]TheRedStoic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Wait how?

He's only her fiance, there's nothing legal about it.

I'm very confused, wtf this better not happen

[–]dwcmwa 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Is there any way the billionaire dude can make Mariah Carey's life miserable (legally of course)? If I had that power, I'd fo'sho' do it. Fk entitled bitches like that. She should be made as an example that behaviour like that needs to be punished.

[–]PatriceWasRight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh he can and he knows. He'll just ignore her, so much more effective

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yesterday in a Melbourne newspaper, there was a report from TMZ claiming that she doesn't believe in sex before marriage and slept in separate rooms to Packer when they vacationed together.

fucking LOL

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 30 points31 points  (14 children)

She is batshit crazy but I would still eat her asshole like casserole.

[–]jackandjill22 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Eh...Nick Cannons been there.

[–]j3nbu -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

Shes a 47 year old quadroon. If you cant do better than that...lord help you

[–]spectre78 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Quardroon! Now there's a racist term you don't hear get flung around often. Are you a plantation owner in the early 1800's by chance?

[–]RavelsBolero 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Take your virtue signalling elsewhere you faggot, nobody here gives a fuck about it

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[–]sensitiveduck 1 point2 points  (1 child)

so what's the PC term for quadroons like MC? She's not white, black nor asian.

[–]watcher45 -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

Eat Cheerios out of her butthole, then tell her to hit bricks.

[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'd pump her full of buttercream icing and make her fart it out on a cake if anything. Then have her fart on the cake. While singing "Honey".

[–]Luckyluke23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

James packer is a casino and media mogul from Australia.( he is Aussie born) ( if anyone didn't know)

the way Aus has been in decline as of late i WOULDN'T be surprised if she gets it.

side note: you think she would have enough money of her own? why the fuck would she want more? IE it's not even about the money is it?

[–]its_meKnightSwolaire 2 points3 points  (3 children)

google Mariah Carey without makeup

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She looks like a totally different person.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I want to see James Packer make a youtube video called "Here's your money, bitch" in which he shovels $50 million in new $20s into an incinerator.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That would be epic. I would put that video on a loop on a special TV in my house so that it would run 24 hours a day and bring a smile to my face every time I passed by and looked at it. Sort of like an electronic art exhibit.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Where is that loser who thought a woman being rich mean't she wouldn't divorce rape you? Mariah wasn't even married and she's trying to rape his bank.

I am curious of his thoughts on this. I need a laugh.

Anyways. If this goes through I am gonna flip.

[–]omega_dawg93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i guess pussy ain't free afterall...

[–]1StoicCrane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maria Carey just like so many other gold digging tramps just proves that AWALT always applies.

[–]waynerooney501 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Inconvenience fee? Who does she think she is? TicketMaster?

[–]Brewjo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Adam Corolla has a bit about realizing when he finally had 'Fuck-you money'- it was when a neighbor tried to get a few K out of him over bullshit, so Adam spent around that much on Legal fees just so he could fuck that guy off with nothing.

I'm pretty sure this guy would happily burn through $50M in lawyers/court cost just to take a breath at the end and say- "Fuuuuck you!"

[–]TerribleMrGrimshaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well depending who was at fault unfortunately she may have a claim though nowhere near those damages amount. It'll be an interest lawsuit but they'll definitely settle.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

While images through the media are little bit more than weak indicators of what the person represented is really like, I still find it mind-boggling that grown men are unable to avoid the red flags that look like a May Day parade in Moscow hanging off some celebrity women.

[–]Magnum256 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone post an update thread when a ruling is made in this case, I'm very curious.

[–]gjs628 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These ideas are meant for women who dropped everything to move in with a guy who ends up abusing her and taking everything she has, and the only way to leave is for a court to give her a small severance in order to get her life back together.

Mariah Fucking Carey is an insult to this, she's rolling in bank yet feels entitled to everything that isn't hers. That's like telling a woman who was kidnapped and brutally gang raped by 15 men over a 10 month period that her problems are nothing compared to yours because just the other day, you caught some weirdo checking out your cleavage on the subway, so you know exactly how she feels because your situation is twice as bad as hers.

This guy must feel like he's being Punk'd because it's just so surreal what she's trying to do to him.

[–]anonymousapple111 1 points1 points [recovered]

Why do actual super alphas keep going for 50 year olds. Makes no fucking sense. If you want someone to talk to and relate to, use friends.

[–]RichieFinn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

what the fuck is inconvenience.....like seriously.

[–]Redditology101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't she worth 10x Nick Cannon?

[–]tokyomagic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a hold digging opportunist.

[–]yomo86 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Streisend effect I guess. This is so god damn ludacruis. If this shit goes through a lot of betas will stay away fron marriage. This is something one could not rationalize.

[–]seius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's becoming such a hassle to be red pill, the best way is to make just enough money to be over the poverty line and leverage your debt, can't take shit if you do don't have shit.

[–]Stickyjargon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gee Mariah didn't expect you to go balls out

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mariah Carey is worth over $500 million and that's not enough? I get making more money, even when you are rich, but the greed with this woman is astounding.

[–]Inyobch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's come to a point where getting angry at shit like this isn't going to solve everything. Watch and learn from these men, don't follow into the same beta shit they keep doing.

[–]goldnhorde 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Flip the script with this being Mark Carey suing his female fiancé and this is laughed out of court.

She wants because:

she moved to LA ....

SO ... she has a home in LA, just sold her other home in LA. has worked out of LA .... this is sad

HE did "something awful" on this yacht to her assistant .... and she canceled tour dates ....

If I told a judge that I quit my job because someone did "something awful" and refused to define it further .... I would hope that he would throw me out at that point alone. The way this is being treated, it only sounds like she walked in on our billionaire taking the assistant for a test drive on the poop deck.

....and of course "he made financial promises" ....

.... if it's not on paper .... who cares.

I don't think she will get a dime or that her request is so big that she is really just looking for daddy warbucks to give her half so the legal fees don't come in.

[–]Limekill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Mariah Carey is trying to shame him into giving her $$$. And her people are just throwing shit and seeing what sticks. Nothing much has stuck so far, because people see what it is.

I think she is thinking he might just give her $10M-$20M or so to go away, and for a falling star like she is - thats a nice payday.

[–]ecosci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another reason not to marry it may become unlawful to divorce or leave a dirty slut but right now married men have a option to pay her to get lost dont be a life long cuck.

[–]atraw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is she implying she is a hooker?

[–]Phixer7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He should get to keep pounding that old clam if he has to pay up.

[–]anonymousapple111 -3 points-3 points [recovered]

Why do actual super alphas keep going for 50 year olds. Makes no fucking sense. If you want someone to talk to and relate to, use friends.

[–]omega_dawg93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

uh, newsflash. money does NOT make you a "super alpha," or even an alpha.

money makes you rich. and sometimes, money makes you VERY fucking stupid.

[–]Dualmilion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol you think packer is alpha?

[–]RememberWhenEye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's less alpha than she is.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Is what it is. Hopefully I get a bad bitch sugar mama with dat ass.

[–]RememberWhenEye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's the kind of logic that finds you married one day.

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[–]Furinkazan616 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Why the fuck should he have to? Because the bitch opened her legs? It's the principle of the matter.

[–]Limekill 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't think she even did that, well according to tmz apparently.

[–]haxurmind 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Allegedly she has, just not to James Packer.

[–]Chizerz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why the fuck would you want to encourage this behaviour especially since you're on theredpill?

[–]anonymousapple111 -7 points-7 points [recovered]

Why do actual super alphas keep going for 50 year olds. Makes no fucking sense. If you want someone to talk to and relate to, use friends.

[–]Pm_MeyourManBoobs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Who Is The Super Alpha? Def. not this guy. More money than brains.