Men's Rights"Sexual Assault" is Why I'm Endorsing Donald Trump for President of the United States (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Modredpillschool

For the most part, we've stayed politics neutral here on TRP, limiting political discussion to how it applies to TRP (or how TRP applies to the political world), and what we can learn from it. This policy isn't changing any time soon; the last thing we need is for TRP to devolve into a political debate sub.

But discussion of red pill principles has always been on topic, and events that occur in the greater culture do affect us, as men, and are on topic.

This election season we're not going to be able to put up any walls between sexual strategy and politics, because the outcomes from these candidates are directly tied to the very cultural influences and trends we've been discussing here for the past few years. They're tied to sexual strategy.

To begin, I want to state with a disclaimer that TRP is not going to officially endorse one candidate or the other. If you lean liberal or conservative, or if you lean in any other direction, you're always welcome to discuss your viewpoint on TRP. This hasn't changed.

That said, I am posting this today to announce my endorsement of Donald Trump for president. And not in spite of his alleged sexual assault gaffes, but rather because of them.

Today's US presidential candidates do not represent Republican V Democrat. They're not representing a difference of economic or social opinion at all. I've had casual arguments with many people of different political leanings, and many have well-reasoned arguments for their disagreements on policy. The reason there's a political debate is because there is no hard answer to many of these questions. If economics was a solved field, we probably wouldn't even need elections today.

No, our presidential candidates are representing instead a system set up to increasingly damage the lives of men (and promote the choices, advantages, and positive outcomes for women), and those alienated by this system, respectively.

I'm sure you've heard the old adage that Democrats and Republicans are just two sides of the same coin. Our elections with a two-party system have been set up to offer us an illusion of choice, but no matter which party you end up with, the new boss is strikingly similar to the old boss.

Yes, the "liberal" media is against Trump, and democrats are crying louder than ever. But there should be no better tell that Trump is outside of this system than the fact that his own party is now turning against him.

It would seem that our entire culture is against Trump. If this didn't appear particularly damaging to his chances, I'd suggest Trump orchestrated this himself just to bolster his credibility with those disenfranchised by our system. But alas, this may not be good news for team Trump. Only time will tell.

This is a fascinating scenario on its own, but the point that interests me the most about it is on what pretext our culture saw fit to turn against Trump: An off-color remark about his legal, consensual sexual exploits.

Essentially, the establishment took a benign comment that uses coarse language, and made it into a sexual assault using their newspeak versions of consent and assault. They lied about what took place, but nobody is catching the lie because consent today means, well, whatever the hell works for the feminists' narrative.

Why is this election important?

The last eight years have been a great example of the left generating a society in which baseless attacks that involve certain keywords (such as "misogyny") will now be taken seriously in lieu of any actual proof or crime having been committed.

I hope that it's clear to any red pill veteran what the culmination of this past decade has achieved. The erosion and broadening of the term "consent" (among others) has played a pivotal role in the grand movement against men. By making the concept as nebulous as possible, it not only makes it impossible to play by the rules, but it retroactively makes any law abiding citizen that they point the social justice beam at into a guilty one.

There's no doubt in my mind that the past two terms have done more damage to our language and race/gender relations than anything I can point to in the past half century. Anybody who thought it was coincidental or unplanned should have another look at exactly how they weaponized these changes in language and relations to attempt to maim a presidential candidate. The worst part is, it might actually work.

Let's imagine the next four (or God help us, eight) years with Hillary at the helm. Is there any reason to believe that this war on language and men will subside? The very tools that put her into power will obviously be solidified, and built upon with Hillary in power. These tools are too effective to be used once and then tossed. They will be used and abused.

This is why I am officially endorsing Trump. I'm not here to get into the nitty-gritty details of foreign or economic policy, or discuss the best way to fix the healthcare situation in our country. I do have opinions on them, and coincidentally I believe Trump has pretty decent stances on a lot of them. But the reason I'm addressing this here on TRP and to this community is because what we stand to gain or lose is much larger than these items.

The war on men hasn't been abating as many here have suggested over the last few years. It's growing, and it's growing out of control.

The accusations of sexual assault are unfounded and convenient. People come out of the woodwork to accuse Trump of sexual assault years prior, but conveniently wait until right now to announce. The very accusation itself now holds as much weight as a guilty verdict, and our changing vocabulary ensures that any man, acting normally, would be considered guilty (both in the court of public opinion, and possibly in a court of law).

I know too well that these tactics and climate will affect more than just a presidential candidate. I know there are a number of men here today who have been on the receiving end of such false attacks. I know that these problems will only get worse for us as men, especially so if we endure more time under leadership that so willingly engages in (and takes advantage of) such nonsense.

When somebody accuses a powerful or famous figure like Trump of "sexual assault," I don't look the other way. I don't denounce them or their behavior. Instead I run towards them, because there is no truer signal which side somebody is on, than when they're given a bogus accusation by the establishment. This is our beacon to find allies in the war.

Do you ever wonder why, after an event like the Trump leak, reporters are quick to ask his endorsers: "But you don't condone sexual assault, do you?" Because the story they are trying to sell is that there is no question a sexual assault took place. They do this by distracting the viewership into thinking the only question left to ask is whether the bad people think it's okay.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (28 children)

For those who have yet to actually watch/listen to the clip in question that started the whole thing, here you go. You can see for yourself it was guys bullshitting each other and "talking shop" about women the way some guys do behind closed doors.


I can almost guarantee you the women complaining about any kissing or whatnot let it happen because it was innocent, and now they're blowing it out of proportion because it's the vogue thing to do.

Notice it isn't until now, YEARS later that they're saying anything, and it's always well after their looks have faded or begun to fade. Have you noticed that? This is a hit job, mixed with women's innate desire for validation and IMO is why he'll lose the election. Young HOT women LOVE The Donald, but it's the older jaded, washed up feminist types who seem to have a problem. Think about why that is for a moment and you'll see exactly why this is TRP related.

edit 10/27/2016:
Sheriff Clarke just gave a speech tonight that was reminiscent of another powerful speech, one I think everyone should see at least once in their lives.


[–][deleted] 120 points121 points  (36 children)

I'd love to see statistics on what percentage of frequent TRP subs are also on /r/the_donald

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[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Oh yeah!!! Ciswhitemaelstrom was the fucking boss over at the_donald. He had to step down as top mod because some tolerant liberals doxxed the fuck out of him or some bullshit like that. He was such an awesome mod, man.

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[–]sparkleponee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try patrick.net. Nothing is moderated, but nothing is deleted.

[–]navarroadonais 58 points59 points  (7 children)

I'm part of that statistic.

[–]DirtieHarry 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Yupp. I think there is a lot of crossover.

[–]Burea_Huwaito 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Lurker here, can confirm.

[–]Troll_Name 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Anyone still doubting Trump at this point is clinging to an organized religion with no official name.

[–]Party_Olive 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I imagine that a majority of TRP subs prefer Trump, for the reasons OP stated.

[–]ECoast_Man 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I actually would argue that it is incompatible to adhere to TRP and support Hillary Clinton's bid for presidency. You can not support Trump but there is no way to be an HRC supporter.

RPS is absolutely right to bring this up, we've been talking about this here for years.

As an aside, I also suspect Hillary actually is a misandrist. She talks about men holding her down her whole life, her husband doesn't fuck her and publicly humiliated her, she got trounced by Obama when it was her time...

[–]loganfire3 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Well thats not true. I don't like the man but i agree with a fair share of what i read on here. Honestly, he comes off as weak to me. I dont respect the fact that he doesnt own up to the crap that he says all the time. I would respect him so much more if hen said " yeah i said it, so what?" Instead of the constant denials and redirection. Also, playing the victim is a huge red flag for me and honestly, i think this sub would also hate that trait.

[–]ECoast_Man 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What exactly makes you think HRC supporting is compatible with here? Forget Trump's perceived errors, talk about the Shill and her policies

[–]SETXpinegoblin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the problem with this election. Be full scale right wing your whole life and say, "Trump is a retarded douchebag" and the rest of the right will jump in and say "oh what, so you support Hillary?"

A man can turn down a Pepsi and also dislike Coke.

[–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, the DT hedonistic sector might support her, much like (covert) poachers would support a politician that defunds game wardens so that they have more latitude to get away with poaching.

Being awake to reality is not a guarantee of sharing the same moral codes.

That being said, a pragmatic hunter that wants there to be game to hunt 10 years from now would support rule of law.

[–]blackedoutfast 31 points32 points  (0 children)

grab this centipede a coat! 10 feet higher!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I actually don't go there. Just see the occasional post in the front page.

[–]QueenBee126 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Also extends to RPW as well! :-)

[–]PM-ME-YOUR-SEXTAPE 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lets send the DON to the white house

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's do it bebe. T Minus 32 minutes

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quite a lot, many times I've been over there and discussing TRP stuff or talking about "that other sub"

G_Petronius is an accomplished shitposter there as well. Also a mod I think.

[–]lamentationsoftheir 4 points5 points  (0 children)


[–]Darkwoodz 90 points91 points  (36 children)

Did anyone here ever consider that it might be better to have Betas running the world than dumbass corrupt business men.

Y'all falling for the cult of personality. Dumb fucks.

I really thought most people on here would be third party people. Those who can see through the two party bs system.

This whole thread is just making me cringe. A bunch of losers complaining about needing an orange troll with zero understanding of policy to be president so that feminists will validate their masculinity. I've never been more embarrassed to be a subscriber here.

Seriously, this post is cancer.

[–]odenby 46 points47 points  (1 child)

I feel like a bunch of guys on this sub are so extremely focused on gender relations that they will support any presidential candidate who satisfies them in that regard. Doesn't matter that he's authoritarian, not particularly knowledgeable, and supports torture, war crimes, and civil liberties violations like stop and frisk and government spying on Americans. He's on their side when it comes to gender relations/political correctness issues and that's all they care about. It annoys me because I think that it would be good to have higher standards than that.

[–]Darkwoodz 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I completely agree, and its really a shame that a group of people who pride themselves on seeing the world how it really is, are falling for such a fraud of presidential candidate.

[–]supper_pt 21 points22 points  (1 child)

This should be higher

I'm not even american (European) and I don't give 2 fucks about your (highly undemocratic) election and whether you pick moron A instead of moron B. But the kind of arguments being used to justify a vote in this thread are (well undoubtbly something I expected from most beta americans) not the reason you should vote for the leader of your country. Just because he's an alfa is not a reason to vote for a candidate. I know a lot of betas that would make better presidents than most alfas.

All this talk around the sexual assault accusations... Talking about how this culture is consequence of the Obama administration... I'm not even going to touch that with a stick.

We came to the red pill to change our life for the better, be better men and discuss strategies with fellow alfas. This kind of post has no reason to be posted here and stickied to the top. We should work to convert our fellow beta men, not to present them with a post that reads "Sexual Assault is why I'm endorsing X moron" when they finally grow the balls to visit our subredit.

For that kind of post I can go to the politics or the donald subredit

[–]BadBradLee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But the kind of arguments being used to justify a vote in this thread are (well undoubtbly something I expected from most beta americans) not the reason you should vote for the leader of your country.

That is exactly the point of his post. With Hillary as the leader of the country, things are going to get worse than they already are for men.

As a man, voting for Hillary is a death-sentence.

Furthermore, there are plenty of other sound reasons in policy to vote for Trump over Hillary. For example, she wants to steal more money from the rich, which will only further de-stabilize the economy and send more money overseas.

Frankly, no one in their right mind should be voting for Hillary and she should be in prison. Redpillschool has used polemic rhetoric to draw attention, but the more support for Trump we can get, the better.

Principles and sound reasons for voting leaders be damned. The choice is pretty clear here, especially as a man in America.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 18 points19 points  (10 children)

There's a decision you make when you care about power. I'm going to clue you in because your comment reads like an angsty teen who thinks things like principles matter in the long run... They don't. You put your money on the guy who will help you the most (or hurt you the least) and you compromise on your values because a perfect ideology has gotten exactly zero people elected.

Go ahead, vote third party and pretend you're playing with the adults.

[–]Darkwoodz 46 points47 points  (8 children)

No, what you're doing is being a single issue voter.... Just like many other brain dead Americans. You're rationalizing it as saying we need the save masculinity. Just like the dumbass feminists voting for Hillary because she has a vagina. " Isn't it time for a woman president? " = "We need a president with balls who isn't a cuck! "

I agree with you to a certain extent, but if you think Trump will somehow fix our issues you've been duped by the snake oil salesman that is Donald Trump.

[–]ThatHoeOverDere[🍰] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Donald Trump wont fix our issues, but he will slow the decline for 4-8 years. That's the whole fucking point.

[–]Darkwoodz 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Maybe, in your fantasy reality where the president somehow magically has enough power to instantly effect social change. It's really sad how Trump supporters idealize this man and use him as a vessel to vent their frustrations with the world. Homophobes think he'll end gay marriage, the islamaphobes think he'll ban all muslims, racists think he'll kick out all the Mexicans and make them speak english. Some think he'll make people respect the police. Others believe..... Whatever else all these people want to believe. Just like a lot of people on this sub believe he'll teach the feminists to learn their place and blah blah. Cult of personality at its finest, suckers.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

you're doing is being a single issue voter

You didn't read my post. And here you are, commenting like a child.

[–]Darkwoodz 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Keep calling me a child all you want. It seems you're intellectually incapable of responding with any kind of worthwhile rebuttal to my criticisms of your frankly moronic opinions.

Clearly you're a simpleton who never developed a bullshit meter. Maybe you're naive and grew up in a sheltered environment. If you think president Trump would do anything to help Men's rights, you're just as gullible as a Hillary shill. Electing a blowhard spoiled rich man baby like Trump, isn't going to help with any of the issues you think it will.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I called you a child because you argue line one. If you read my post your see I wasn't being a single issue voter. I don't believe you argue in good faith.

[–]Lord_dokodo 108 points109 points  (46 children)

I really did not get too into this election until just recently. Then I saw the Times articles repeatedly with more and more victims coming out against him. I saw the Times, HuPo, WaPo, CNN, CBS, NYPost, and all sorts of other media companies all citing one article in their report on the topic. It wasn't BuzzFeed, who surprisingly and laughably did the most journalism out of all of the media companies, but the New York Times, which WAS BASED OFF INFORMATION FROM THE BUZZFEED ARTICLE--getting your sources from BuzzFeed, hahahahahaha.

Even BuzzFeed had the respect for journalism to include accounts of the other side--the other 11 Miss USA contestants who actually wanted to say something--say that there was a slim to zero possibility of Trump just casually walking past their chaperones (their own fucking parents), security detail, and others. I don't know what kind of parent just lets an old man into the dressing room that their daughter is currently standing naked in, but I doubt many people would sell away their children to receive the attention of some rich billionaire. No parent would give anyone the right to just barge into their home, even if it was Bill Gates, and just see their child naked.

0, zilch, proof or even plausibility within these stories and they were all parroted by every media company. The scary part is that they all selectively omitted the details, in proxy, by basing their "findings" on the NYT article, which also conveniently left out the other side's story. The only articles I found that mentioned the other side was Slate and Fortune and Buzzfeed. Everyone else just conveniently left that out. Lo and behold, the comments then inundate with people calling for Trump to die and burn at a stake for his crude remarks and his sexual misconduct.

The same people who denounce media companies as filthy biased lies will eat that shit up whenever it fits their narrative. No one truly ever thinks about it, they just put on a facade of intellectual capacity but succumb to ignorance whenever they truly have to do their own thinking. The very same liberals who abhorred Fox News would readily repost their shit all over Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram if it confirmed their narrative that we live in a rape culture society. And now that Republicans are pulling their support for Trump, Fox News is actually reporting on this as well, if o

"Intellectuals", who parade themselves around as the future of our society and wellbeing, can't even tell that they've been blindfolded and spun around 3 times by the media and whoever has compelled them to act this way. People who despise secrecy cannot even fathom the idea that their own party is the height and pinnacle of deceit.

We've developed networks capable of transferring data and information at light speed. We have more outlets of media than ever before. More channels of thought than the entirety of history up until this point. Yet people have never been so stupid and so misguided. Truly, truly, helpless. There isn't anything people can say that will change this, they have to learn from experience.

No matter how hot you tell that baby the stovetop is, he won't know what searing heat is until he touches it for the first time.

[–][deleted] 107 points108 points  (41 children)

Lets say he did all that, still, why care?

I have a security clearance. The shit that Hilary and the FBI has admitted she did would(and has) put people in prison. I could care if she ran against a clown. Trumps failings are personal, no worse than Bill, or Kennedy. Her failings are professional.

Lets face it, few understand policy anyways, what they are voting for is a figurehead, and you have the choice between a classic loud mouthed new yorker, rich business man (the american dream) or the template for a Television show about sociopaths abusing power to achieve for their own ends, because it's time for women to be given the world.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 24 points25 points  (21 children)

I have a security clearance.

I hope you're taking appropriate precautions with your activity here!

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (18 children)

Nothing classified would be of any use to the manosphere anyways. All you have to do is keep your damed mouth shut about shit with a designation/classification.

You'd think it was easy

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 15 points16 points  (17 children)

I'm more worried about those who granted you security seeing your browsing habits.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 13 points14 points  (14 children)

We're not followed anywhere near that closely.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (13 children)

We're not followed. But anybody with a security clearance might be.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 6 points7 points  (2 children)

anybody with a security clearance might be.

Giving the government way, way to much credit and if you think there really is such a thing as naval intelligence then you must be a wog :) :) King Neptune is going to have a field day with you.

Here is a more interesting question. Imagine Stoney started revealing classified positions, course, and readiness reports for ballistic missile submarines in his TRP posts.

How many decades would it take the navy to figure it out?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Fucking tadpole, talking like a bear

[–]PM_Your_8008s 1 point2 points  (6 children)

They do a background check to grant clearance, I don't think they actively follow your online activity afterwards as some kind of proactive measure. At least not anymore than the rest of us are followed.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I don't take any chances, myself. Without divulging much about myself, I only connect to reddit via secure proxy.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He is right. They search for perceived leverage. IF I owned real estate in Yemen, had a mistress, did drugs on the sly, or massive debt.

They aren't worried so much about meeting some moral high bar, but the idea of something that can be used to leverage you.

Funny enough, having a bitch Wife tends to be the leverage that works

In July 2007 Delisle walked into the Russian Embassy in Ottawa and offered to sell secret information to the Russian military intelligence service


On May 3, 1997, Delisle married Jennifer Lee Janes in Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia. On February 17, 1998, he filed for bankruptcy and declared liabilities of $18,587 and assets of $1,000. In June 2008, Delisle and his wife separated. On May 3, 2010, Delisle and his wife filed for divorce, due to an affair.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is why you shouldn't make shitty video games, slut quest was where you fucked up!

[–]Hexthorne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not enough to stop a government agency that's actively looking for/at you, only to keep your online footprint from standing out in the crowd.

Also keep in mind that if you use the same browser for reddit as you do for other accounts (social media, email, etc.) that those cookies can be viewed by 3rd party sites and connect your reddit identity to those accounts.

Make sure you also go to your reddit preferences and uncheck "allow reddit to log my outbound clicks for personalization" as well.

[–]PM_Your_8008s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably for the best, you know better safe than sorry. My 2 cents might just be entirely wrong too.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 1 point2 points  (2 children)

By "we" I meant people with security clearances, not TRP.

[–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'm not sure how high up, or for what your clearance is, but I would never be so sure.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm out now. But we had a pretty good idea how they tracked things.

Never assume the state can find its ass with both hands and a flashlight. The people at the top are just as dumb as the average person... only meaner, greedier, and better connected.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Someone using their personal politics as a legal cudgel is what put me here in the first place, funnily enough.

[–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure where the concern would come into play.

As long as he's using a VPN or Tor (like everyone should be), it shouldn't be an issue.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I looked into this recently and checked with one of my guys to get a legal opinion. We do not think that browsing on TRP would impact a security clearance investigation in any way. That is, being a Terp should not impact your ability to get a security clearance.

Security Clearances are based primarily on your loyalty to the nation and (in the U.S.) your loyalty to the U.S. constitution. Obviously if your TRP posts advocate the violent overthrow of the government, or are overwrought and showing that you are a mental basket case who might be a risk to divulge national security secrets then the investigation might not go well for you but identifying gender dysfunctions, PUA, ranting about feminism etc all should be just fine.

TLDR: TRP should not prevent anybody from getting a security clearance.

[–]megpiesnyc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I highly doubt the US government would revoke an SC over a moderator creating posts about lifting and getting laid.

[–]jackandjill22 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Exactly. All the attacks leveled at Trump are ad hominem if you read the Wikileaks documents or the the Benghazi foreign policy disasters or the secret email server wipings. She's abandoned her base & demographic by mocking Bernie Sanders supporters. Hillary Clinton isn't even in office yet & has major governmental catastrophes/scandals. She's a stone-cold liar that gives Fuck-all about the wellbeing of the country.

[–]darkrood 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Be careful next time your bench press when a stranger comes to "spot you".

[–]Silver-Monk_Shu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem is far worse than we can even begin to imagine.

http://archive.is/154bQ (User analyzes 375 posts on politics right now: 327 of them are anti-Trump (87%). 0 are anti-Hillary. 0 are pro-Trump.)

Even reddit mods have been bought out to support Hilary Clinton unfortunately.
For example on the politics subreddit they have not covered many of the important wikileak email dumps and used vote manipulationt o manage the content that gets seen by others.

Its been tailored to become anti-trump, and all the comments make it seem like 100% of the people do not support trump and all think he's a rapist.

It's rigged as fuck right now. I don't know what I can trust anymore, I already KNEW I couldn't trust reddit but how can I not believe things are rigged like this on other news sites? They can just CHOOSE to not reveal information to me? How the fuck can I make an informed decision without information?

How can I truly support anyone, if certain information about a candidate is withheld from me?

I could think one person is good, and the other is evil but that's only because I don't have the full story. How can I make good decisions, how can I get actual facts when it comes to politics when I have to get my info through the media? They're controlling my decision whether I want them to or not, what the fuck do I do.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buzzfeed actually has a section where you can report your experiences with Trump.

Needless to say it's getting trolled hard.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 204 points205 points  (117 children)

I'm heavily in favor of any intellectualy stimulating discussion taking place on TRP be it political or otherwise, because intellectual discussion is self improvement. Let me mansplain. Most of our userbase is stuck in an intellectualy stifling environment.

Schools and Universities cater to women. Women aren't very keen on independent thought or the Socratic method so the education system has become a rote memorization extravaganza. In addition smart phones have nuked people's attention spans birthing a generation of ADHD zombies. Television and film are produced at a sixth grade level so that proles can understand them. Consequently most people now operate on a sixth grade level.

Intellectualy stimulating environments are incredibly important for young men and TRP holds the unique distinction of forcing men to think like men instead of children.

Furthermore an intellectual discussion of politics can only take place on the fringes of Reddit because every mainstream Sub is infested with CTR HillShills. TRP on the otherhand is HillShill proof because they don't want our misogy in their post history and are not going to waste time creating separate accounts for the task.

[–]Programmer_Trainee 87 points88 points  (2 children)

Let me mansplain.

You smooth bastard.

[–]1empatheticapathetic 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I just burst out laughing at that point, after the sincerity before it.

[–]dissentforall 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet he wears rapist glasses and has a pedo goatee too

[–]1991Kira 43 points44 points  (88 children)

Intellectually stimulating environments are incredibly important for young men

And society in general. But sadly, there seems to be a profound shortage of these in the real world right now.

I can count on the fingers of one hand (and still have fingers left) the number of times I've seen people use facts and logical arguments to denounce Trump instead of making blanket statements like "he's a misogynist" or "he's a buffoon and a phony". I'm glad the mods here are bold enough to encourage discussions on such topics. I look forward to seeing a lively debate on this thread, since whether Reddit and the mainstream media wish to acknowledge it or not, we've actually got some very intelligent people frequenting this sub.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 23 points24 points  (21 children)

I have yet to hear anyone use a logical argument as to why they won't vote for Trump. It all amounts to nothing more than I don't like him, his business all fail, or he is racist/facist/misogynistic/not a snake headed alien. I'm not entirely sure I like the guy, but it's because he just might be exactly like the previous residents in the Oval Office. I'll take a wait and see approach, because I've seen lots of dog and pony show at the circus.

However all I hear against Hillary is logical argument, evidence of wrongdoing, and shit leadership. Sure there is some made up fanciful bullshit, but jesus, I'd be in jail if I handled sensitive information like she did while I was in the military.

[–]odenby 30 points31 points  (11 children)

My logical anti-Trump argument is basically this: Trump would be bad for civil liberties. He supports torture, collective punishment, the PATRIOT Act, stop and frisk, NSA spying on Americans, and executing alleged traitors. Trump also seems to be a militarist, since he keeps talking about funding the military more even though the US already has a better-funded military than the next several countries put together.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's the point though, both are bad for liberty, but one tries to hide it with ad hominem and little more than shouting "I know you are but what am I?" the other is outspoken and says stupid shit.

Both will lead us into war, the chances of the war being here in the states is higher with her, but rest assured, we will be at war in less than 4 years. I've done two already, I'm rather sick of it all.

[–]RedMoonAscendant 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree 100% and it's why I'm going to vote Trump grudgingly, because electing Trump is the only way to send a real message up the chain.

[–]frequentlywrong 8 points9 points  (8 children)

Trump also seems to be a militarist

But he is also not a warmonger. He is for the military for defense. Hillary on the other hand is bloodthirsty, corrupt to the core and can not be believed on a single thing she says.

All the things you listed Hillary is for also. He is just honest about his opinions.

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[–]frequentlywrong 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I'm not convinced he is honest either.

Wikileaks has documented proof of her dishonesty and corruption.

Trump just may be dishonest.

Considering how hard the mainstream media and the established corrupted political class is against him, he must be doing something right.

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[–]frequentlywrong 0 points1 point  (3 children)

There are two choices. One proven to the core corrupted (and that silly shit 20 years ago is childsplay to her real current crimes) and one that may be corrupted.

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    [–]FrakkenKrakken 16 points17 points  (2 children)

    Let me preface this by first saying I am no Clinton fan and firmly believe she will probably be one of the worst presidents we have ever had. However, Trump is of the same Narcissistic mold as LBJ who was has so far been our worst president. The problem with pathological narcissism is that people inflicted with it have no conscience, Tremendous Hubris, and little empathy. Their three main goals are Power, Attention and Thrills and will adhere to any set of behaviors and principles that will help them achieve their goals. LBJ put his name on everything (renamed his wife lady bird so she would have his initials) similarly Trump puts his name on everything he can. LBJ had "the Great society" Trump has "make America Great Again" both are an attempt to make themselves great, or to at least appear great. Clinton sucks donkey balls but Trump sucks the diseased dick of a dead dingo.

    [–]Rommel0502 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Agree 1000% with LBJ being the worst president in US history.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I won't disagree with you. Trump is "as yet to be seen" on my view. No telling what he might do, and the gop had been too full of batshit crazy for too long. That's how he was nominated.

    I'm pissed about this election, the whole thing is obviously rigged and serves only to divide us farther. How we got to this point is what infuriates me. Institutional weakness and ignorance, that's why we are here.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I remember the bush Election. It was all about the everyman, that you'd be willing to have a beer with. Obama was that same aspirational guy for the left. He's cool, I'd hang with him!

    Those were both lackluster at best...

    At this point, judging by what I read on his supporters, they don't care about his character, they don't like him (as a person) and that's not why they are voting for him. If he hadn't apologized for talking about women, this would have died already, because no one really cares, they like to pretend they do, but they don't.

    You're bang on with the Anti-hillary stuff though. I have a feeling that Trump isn't winning, so much as Hillary, and Jeb are losing this one.

    After all, it was supposed to be Clinton V bush 3.0 this cycle.

    [–]2Overkillengine 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Any of the commoner class would. And that's why we need to remind the political class that they can be replaced, and that we have a tree that needs watering.

    [–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Good luck getting people to give up TV and shiny new shit long enough to endure the inevitable hardships that come with watering that tree. They're too soft and weak to do it.

    [–]2Overkillengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah I know, it's like trying to tell a junkie they would be able to achieve a better quality of life if they laid off the product a bit.

    You can practically hear the triggering.

    [–]Kingofmyworld909 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    My logical reason for not voting for Trump (and in turn not voting for any presidential candidate this term) is because my family (which is comprised of a bunch of blue pill botards) would give me shit for the next four years. Granted, if things turned out better as a result of him being head honcho, I'm sure I could give them shit for the four years after that, but overall its not worth it. I'd rather them bite their damn tongues when they realize how "awesome" Hillary will be. (They're beyond saving ATM so they will most likely think she's awesome, after all the future cuck laws are put into place)

    [–]Pulstastic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I might not vote for Trump because I fear he will cut taxes without making corresponding spending cuts and this will balloon the debt to insane proportions. I also think he tends to have a thin skin and this is possibly dangerous when it comes to foreign policy. I am also pretty alright with the present level of taxes vs. social services and would be ok leaving it alone, as I would hope a Republican Congress + Hillary would essentially do. I also think a few minor side policy projects Hillary favors are good ideas.

    On the other hand the SJWs drive me crazy and Hillary feels ever so slimey and corrupt and so Idk what to do. I live in DC (Hillary will win with 80%) so my vote doesn't matter and I'll probably write someone in.

    [–]Hexthorne 17 points18 points  (65 children)

    I would find the entire election cycle hilarious if it weren't so damned sad and destructive.

    Clinton is absolutely qualified for the position, but has proven herself to be completely untrustworthy with any kind of power. Meanwhile Trump is completely unqualified but is at least talking about issues like corruption that are the root cause of a lot of political problems.

    I can count on the fingers of one hand (and still have fingers left) the number of times I've seen people use facts and logical arguments to denounce Trump instead of making blanket statements like "he's a misogynist" or "he's a buffoon and a phony".

    This is because most people vote based on emotion rather than logic, not because there aren't logical arguments in favor of or against both candidates.

    For example, Trump is not a good businessman despite his claims to be one. In the 80's his wealth was on par with Warren Buffet at the time, but Trump failed to grow his wealth in the past 30 years as compared to other rich bastards from the 80's. He's also certainly not worth $10 billion, especially when he self estimates his brand to be 1/3 of his net worth. He does manage to make it sound good though, so people believe him.

    Now with Clinton people won't even budge on their stance despite her terrible track record with security (she may have even potentially gotten US military personnel killed with her "carelessness") as well as the financial questions regarding the Clinton Foundation and how her private state department server was kept on the same fucking network as the Clinton Foundation server.

    Honestly I can't see how anyone can vote for either of them.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 24 points25 points  (5 children)

    Trump is not a good businessman despite his claims to be one.

    That is ridiculous. The Trump brand is known around the world. Known well enough to win him the Republican nomination and possibly get elected President.

    Trump wrote "The Art of the Deal" in the 1980's and it remains one of the best books on business and contracts ever written.

    He is mocked as a "reality TV show star" but the fact is he played himself- a top notch businessman on that reality TV show. Since you haven't seen the show, be advised that he was THE BOSS assigning groups of "Apprentices" various business assignments and then advising them, taking reports, and evaluating them. The Apprentices were Harvard and Yale MBA's and wall street bankers and other notables. He dressed down the failures and explained what they should have done. His trademark phrase was the boss telling the failed Apprentices "Your Fired."

    He maintained a Billion dollar real estate empire through the worst real estate crash in U.S. history without filing a personal bankruptcy.

    His bankruptcy / failure rate for startup companies is around 2% compared to the national average of about 40%.

    [–]Llanolinn 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Not trying to get in any sort of argument one way or another but... Trump did not write Art of the Deal. Hell, the guy who did ghostwrite it had some pretty unflattering things to say about him.

    So probably don't use that in your defense next time. Its kind of a weak point. =/

    [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I did not know that. It reads exactly like he is talking to you and provides details about some of his contract negotiations that no ghost writer could possibly know.

    [–]Llanolinn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah. The guy who ghostwrote it shadowed him for.. I wanna say 18 months? Ill check for a source real quick.


    Tony Schwartz was his name. Trump says it was more 50/50, Schwartz claims it was mostly all him. Theres a Fortune/NYT interview with him. Not sure which is the original.

    [–]_the_shape_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Now with Clinton people won't even budge on their stance despite her terrible track record with security

    Speaking of tracks, Wikileaks is dredging up some absolutely filthy ones each and every day.

    The options are: Vote Crooked, Vote Trump, vote third party, or don't vote all. If the conclusion is still "I don't care - voting for her" despite all of the dirt being uncovered (assuming they're aware of it too - media is doing an excellent job of looking in the other direction and not reporting it, or very lightly touching on it), then I don't know what say, other than maybe it's high time for the herd to be thinned out considerably.

    [–]1SexdictatorLucifer 35 points36 points  (14 children)

    This "I don't know how anyone could vote for either of them" stuff is an easy copout and really something a woman would say to rid herself of responsibility. You miss the point. This election is a cultural war. Experience, economics, and even the candidate representing either side is besides the point. Each one is fighting for one side of a global cultural war which is being battled in the west, especially the in US. Get over what you are told to think the "important issues" are and realize what this is all about.

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      [–]thekingmaker88 20 points21 points  (8 children)

      Your use of hyperbole is almost as strong as my ex's.

      [–]pygar_mathmos 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      Let's see. Hillary and Kaine will amnesty the 20 million or so illegal immigrants currently here. They largely vote democratic. Presidential elections are determined by a couple of million votes. The Republicans will be shut out for the foreseeable future. Hillary will stack the Supreme Court with liberals who will gut the 1st and 2nd Amendments. Hate speech laws will be broadened to include anything critical of leftist ideas or the government, just like in Europe now where you can't criticize their insane immigration policies. They will also go after gun manufacturers by allowing them to be sued, driving them out of business They will also over regulate ammo and make it unaffordable. The public will become unable to resist a tyrannical government.

      The large number of Berniebots wanting free college gives you a glimpse of the socialist policies that will likely become laws. We will end up like Venezuela. In Europe and later the US and Canada, Islam will continue to expand until it reaches a critical mass. First local Sharia courts, then no-go zones, etc. With their birth rates 2-3x the native population they will become the majority in less the two generations. Sharia law will be enacted. Then the do-gooder-we-have-to-help-every-one feminists will finally realize their folly when they are forced to wear burkas and are beaten by their husbands.

      Trump is likely the last chance to stop this from happening, so yes, I don't think it is hyperbole to say that Western civilization is on the brink.

      Edited for clarity

      [–]pygar_mathmos 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Last post too much red pill for you?

      [–]thekingmaker88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      LOLLLLL. I guess we'll find out soon cause there is no way in Hell Trump can win now.

      [–]beginner_ 4 points5 points  (4 children)

      He sure has never been to Europe because in terms of bitchy women and feminism US is far worse of, Europe usually a decade behind.

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          [–]matthew8367 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I'm guessing they are preschools that actively prevent discussing traditional gender roles.

          [–]dystopianeast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          America is in a worse position than Europe. Much more immigrants (legal & illegal) coming into the states than into Europe. The difference is that kebabs tend to be more explosive in their crimes, which make headline news.

          [–]odenby 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Each one is fighting for one side of a global cultural war which is being battled in the west, especially the in US.

          Yes, but in my mind that is the less important cultural war. The way I see it, Trump and Clinton are actually on the same side of a much more important cultural war: the war between big government authoritarians and freedom-lovers. Trump and Clinton are both authoritarian big government types. Clinton is a statist establishment politician. Trump loves the military, the NSA, and the PATRIOT Act and supports torture, war crimes, and stop and frisk. They disagree on what they want the big government to do, but they both want that big government.

          [–]Llanolinn 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Oh that's ridiculous. We're talking about a country here. Economics, international relations, etc are fucking important. To wave that away is foolish and ignorant.

          [–]1SexdictatorLucifer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Yes, and Donald Trump can address these issues better than the establishment that Hilary Clinton represents and the same establishment that is on the wrong side of this cultural war.

          [–]Lvl10Bard 27 points28 points  (32 children)

          Clinton is absolutely qualified for the position,

          She's committed treason, bro. That's about a unqualified as it gets.

          Meanwhile Trump is completely unqualified but is at least talking about issues like corruption that are the root cause of a lot of political problems.

          'Member that time an actor ran for president?

          I 'member.

          Honestly I can't see how anyone can vote for either of them.

          I really, really want to see the economy go pre-chernobyl with a 15% tax rate.

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            [–]Lvl10Bard 24 points25 points  (7 children)

            This is exactly the same kind of shit-stupid hyperbole that gets employed against Trump.

            The definition of treason is as follows:

            This word imports a betraying, treachery, or breach of allegiance.

            The Constitution of the United States, Art. III, defines treason against the United States to consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid or comfort. This offence is punished with death. By the same article of the Constitution, no person shall be convicted of treason, unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

            She knowingly did this. As per the Podesta emails, they knew that Saudi Arabia was funding ISIS. Despite this, the United States of America's State Department, under the control of Hillary Clinton, Sold Weapons to Saudi Arabia. By selling arms to the country that is actively giving covert aide to an enemy of our Country, who is therefor our enemy, Secretary Clinton has given aid to the enemy.

            It's not hyperbolic. You're just too wrapped in your hug box to admit that she's betrayed us.

            [–]PowerVitamin 16 points17 points  (3 children)

            Add the uranium deal with russia (1), the conspiring to down the intelligence of the electorate (2), approving arms to ISIS (3), wanting to increase islamic immigration (4), borderless world (5), making money though the Clinton foundation while in office (illegal, but not treason. Becomes treason when Saudi Arabia, responsible for 9/11 is doing the bribing) (6). These are all verifiable accounts of treason released by wikileaks in the last 2 weeks. Add the implications of a Scalia assassination (7) and a rigging of the democratic primaries against Bernie Sanders (8) and conspiring with the media against Donald Trump (9). And you have yourself an absolute portfolio of criminal activity, and deplorable behaviours all provable by wikileaks.

            The truth is, if you let this witch ascend any further, you are actively giving the free card to all women in the nation to be complete deplorable corrupt whores. Oh, you thought they already were? Think again dumbass. This is signing the fucking green card over to women. This monster cannot be allowed to have her tentacles anywhere near the oval office and you all know it. This is a cultural war that threatens the very fabric of masculinity, honor, and behaviour.

            You need to lift weights, and to get your buddies to lift weights. This is no joke. Without testosterone, the world will descend to nihilism. From nihilism they can absolutely end the world or take more of your freedoms and deny you sexual strategy. This is not just a casual battle for humanity. This is an absolute war.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 6 points7 points  (2 children)

            Your post is on point. Just one thing I want to point out:

            You need to lift weights, and to get your buddies to lift weights

            Or just do what I do, hunt your own food (Without a gun), chop your own fire wood, etc. Gym time is nice, but isn't always needed.

            [–]PowerVitamin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            I should learn how to skin an animal. :D

            [–]Lvl10Bard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Not gonna lie, I still can't. The smell gets me every time. Luckily, I got a girl who's a fucking badass and can handle the stench like a boss.

            [–]withoutqualities 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            So have every President and Congress since fdr

            [–]xinihil 9 points10 points  (3 children)

            Feels real 1984 up in here.

            [–]LarParWar 10 points11 points  (2 children)

            Reagan's slogan: Let's make America great again.

            Trump's slogan: Make America great again.

            Call me cynical, but if Trump doesn't formally declare himself God-Emperor and proceed to fire 90% of Washington, absolutely nothing will change.

            [–]xinihil 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            That would Make American TV Great Again

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            That's hope we don't have with Clinton starting WW3.

            [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            You mentioned facts so here are some for you to digest.


            Leaked private speech, Clinton: “My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders”: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927#efmFjUFkd

            Clinton strategist: We need to “produce an unaware and compliant citizenry” to defeat Trump: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599#efmARKATm


            Hillary’s huge debate prep book against Bernie Sanders (Prepared answers to anticipated debate questions): https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8009 (See attachment)

            CRIMINAL LIABILITY State Department tipping off Hillary’s staff about upcoming investigation details regarding her case: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/6185#efmAH_AJdANKAPC

            Hillary campaign desperate to “get ahead of the narrative on this email issue”: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/5344

            Hillary’s campaign manager, Robby Mook: “it’s a little troubling” that meeting of Clinton Foundation was held at Goldman Sachs HQ: https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/1381#efmAAwACA

            Do you support a candidate like this? Or a candidate who is fighting an uphill battle and winning against the clinton mainstream media machine.

            [–]LarParWar 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            The Clintons haven't committed treason if your definition of treason is betraying the government or the ruling class. They are the government and the ruling class, they'd hardly betray themselves.

            If your definition of treason is betraying your country, your nation, your civilization, meaning the land your forefathers conquered and their blood descendents, then the Clintons are some of slimiest, crookedest, double-crossing two-faced traitors ever in the history of the world, and deserve to be hanged to point of near-death, then resuscitated, then drawn and quartered and disemboweled, then burned still semi-alive, then shot by firing squad, then buried, then dug up, then whatever remains dumped in a filthy swamp somewhere to be eaten by alligators.

            Them, and hundreds of their co-conspirators.

            As entertainment. On live television broadcast round the globe.

            But only if that's your definition of treason.

            [–]Hexthorne 0 points1 point  (6 children)

            She's committed treason, bro. That's about a unqualified as it gets.

            Qualified in the sense that she has the job experience as SoS and Senator to at least put on her resume. Trump doesn't have any public office experience.

            'Member that time an actor ran for president?

            Reagan was also Governor of California before he was president.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 2 points3 points  (5 children)

            Qualified in the sense that she has the job experience as SoS and Senator to at least put on her resume.

            Yeah, but she's committed treason.

            In her Tenure as Secretary of State, she had broken one of the highest laws of the land, and one of the few that's punishable by death.

            Further, the only reason she became a Senator was because her opponent mysteriously died in a plane crash.

            There is so much corruption surrounding this woman that we would be crazy to elect her as a town mayor, much less into ostensibly the most powerful position in the world.

            Reagan was also Governor of California before he was president.

            Yeah, and he then took a globalist -- who's now supporting Clinton -- as his VP.

            Call me crazy, but it seems anyone who's got even a toe in the political sphere isn't someone we want in any seat of power.

            [–]Hexthorne 0 points1 point  (4 children)

            Yeah, but she's committed treason.

            As I have said in other comments in this thread, I agree that her actions should disqualify her from running or at least mean she should lose the race due to them being known. That is a different discussion than whether she has relevant experience.

            Don't confuse me stating facts with supporting her in any way, because I absolutely don't.

            Further, the only reason she became a Senator was because her opponent mysteriously died in a plane crash.


            Rudy Giuliani was originally running for the seat but trailed Clinton in the polls the entire time he had his name out there. Eventually he dropped and Rick Lazio became the nominee but wasn't well known. Clinton got 84% of the vote against the (very much alive) Lazio.

            Yeah, and he then took a globalist -- who's now supporting Clinton -- as his VP.

            Also completely irrelevant to Clinton's experience in public office.

            When you conflate separate issues like this you just sound like the mob screaming and shouting about how terrible Clinton is, and that's ineffective and a tool for convincing people.

            You're not doing a great job of seeing the political world as it is, rather than what you wish it was. Supposedly TRP is about dispelling the illusions that society imposes on us, and what better area of your life to practice that in than politics?

            [–]Lvl10Bard 0 points1 point  (3 children)


            You're right, I misspoke. It wasn't her opposition for Senator, it was her opposition for the Democratic ticket.



            Completely irrelevant

            Yes, I know. We weren't talking about Clinton. We were talking about Reagan. Don't confuse separate topics.

            And she is an ineffective tool. She doesn't have the will of the people in mind. That's the whole damn point of a Republic, of article IV, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.

            [–]Hexthorne 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            It wasn't her opposition for Senator, it was her opposition for the Democratic ticket.

            You're absolutely delusional if you think a piece about JFK Jr. "considering" running for the seat is worth even mentioning. You know that Hilary Clinton was good friends with him, right? That once Clinton showed interest he stepped aside? And you know he died more than a year before the election, yes?

            This is literally tin foil hat conspiracy theory territory - the timeline doesn't match up, there's no motivation, and in fact there's plenty of reasons for him not to have been killed (valuable political ally, connection to the Kennedy's, special election to fill Clinton's seat when she ran for President would have put him in the running, etc.).

            It's shit like this that makes people disregard anything of value you might have to say. And that sucks because there are plenty of fucking valid and verifiable reasons to think Clinton is a terrible choice, and it makes the actual job of convincing people that much harder.

            Yes, I know. We weren't talking about Clinton. We were talking about Reagan. Don't confuse separate topics.

            You felt the need to respond to my point that Reagan had political experience. Your tangent about his VP pick was completely out of left field and had no reason to be brought up.

            And she is an ineffective tool. She doesn't have the will of the people in mind. That's the whole damn point of a Republic, of article IV, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.

            I completely agree with you conclusions, but when you bring up complete bullshit like you've done in all your comments you lose your credibility.

            [–]Rommel0502 1 point2 points  (5 children)

            I dont get what this "qualified" shit is. As far as I know, she's never ran a value producing company and hence has never "created" a job in her life. Her entire list of "qualifications" comes down to her being on the public dole for her entire life, and abusing the shit out of it the whole way.

            [–]Hexthorne 2 points3 points  (4 children)

            If you think the function of the president is to "create jobs" then you seriously need to take a civics course.

            Primary function of the POTUS? Foreign relations and enacting the budget as set by congress. The bonus is that you can veto bills that cross your desk if you don't like them and use the bully pulpit to rile up the citizens on specific issues.

            There is some crossover experience from the business world (trade, international relations, etc.) but the office of president doesn't create jobs and the purpose of the government is not to create value or turn a profit.

            Her entire list of "qualifications" comes down to her being on the public dole for her entire life, and abusing the shit out of it the whole way.

            Not gonna disagree that she's a terrible person and a terrible candidate, but that doesn't negate her experience in public office. Even if you were completely inept at your last job as a shitpacker you'd still be able to put it on your resume.

            And you saying that her experience doesn't count just shows that you're arguing from emotion rather than logic or facts. The facts show that both Trump and Clinton are fucking terrible for their own reasons.

            [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (3 children)

            How the hell is she "qualified". What has she done? She's like if Sarah Palin was already married to a President. She can talk the talk, but any Chatty Cathy can. A US president should be able to take a foreign leader's lunch. She'd be getting them coffee. Just because Trump did not grow his wealth like Warren Buffet did, that does not make him a bad businessman. I'm not saying he is the best but most people cannot even get most businesses to break even. He was in different businesses than Buffet. It's easy to get as rich as Warren Buffet with the way the government props up Wall Street.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 28 points29 points  (7 children)

            This may be the only time I break from my year-long lurking streak to post something, but I wholeheartedly agree. Specifically,

            Schools and Universities cater to women. Women aren't very keen on independent thought or the Socratic method so the education system has become a rote memorization extravaganza.

            This cannot be overstated. Ironically, the first and only time I ever heard this was from a marxist economics professor. 'Twas the only thing I've ever heard him say that wasn't fucking insane. Our current education system is batshit. We spend more time learning facts and figures and charts instead of learning why Genghis Khan got so buttmad that he fucked everyone in Eurasia, or why the Roman Empire fell, etc.

            I'm not the most intellectually- or philosophically-savvy individual, hence why I lurk, but even I can see it.

            Intellectualy stimulating environments are incredibly important for young men

            This can also not be said enough. Watching videos by guys like Molyneux, quite literally, woke me up. I went from thinking I knew everything to knowing that I knew so little, and had so much to learn. It's humbled me, and brought me to a form of understanding that I had never imagined. I've changed completely as a person after having an actual discussion about philosophy, not doing truth tables because some old, rich cunt that believes only statesmen should lead America says to to get a passing grade.

            Thanks for this eloquent response, dude. Really, I appreciate it.

            [–]LarParWar 9 points10 points  (5 children)

            The purpose of education is not to convey knowledge, but to inculcate the state religion. Our state religion is Progressivism, also variously referred to as multiculturalism, political correctness, liberalism, secularism, humanism, feminism, and others.

            As is probably obvious to you, this religion is based on bullshit, lies, and half-truths, so in order to successfully propagate itself it must warp students' ability to perceive reality, meaning real, true, authentic information must never be presented to students, so that authentic knowledge is never attained in sufficient quantity so as to prompt mass apostasy from the state religion.

            Yuri Bezmenov was quite right when he said that one whose perception has been warped in this way can be presented with authentic information and evidence and have their viewpoint completely unchanged, as unchanged as if you had tried to convince a Moslem that Allah doesn't exist, though he was wrong as to its mainspring of this reality-warping ideological force, which he thought was the KGB but was really Harvard.

            Orwell called it such things as crimethink, crimestop, and doublethink.

            So that's why school sucks. Not because America and Americans spend metric fucktons of their money on schools, but because the school system is designed to suck, exquisitely designed to warp your perception of reality, deprave your morality, make you a sucker for democracy and make you incapable of independent thought. School, the factory line of the perfect pacified populace. With military-grade precision, the schools are accomplishing exactly what they're supposed to.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 5 points6 points  (4 children)

            The purpose of education is not to convey knowledge, but to inculcate the state religion.

            Relevant video for anyone who doesn't get this.

            Yuri Bezmenov was quite right

            Full stop.

            I'm actually doing a 7 minute summary of his speech for a presentation. Can't wait to see how many people wake up.

            [–]LarParWar 6 points7 points  (3 children)

            If your objective is to wake people up, Bezmenov is not the place to start. Firstly, your objective should not be to wake just anyone up, your objective should be to wake up intelligent white men. They are the only ones who really matter. Stupid white men follow smart white men, women follow men, and nonwhites follow whites. So change the opinion of intelligent white men, and everything else organically adjusts downstream.

            By all means, include a few snippets of Bezmenov, but at 7 minutes your objective is not to present a dry analysis of him of his viewpoints, but to cut together a rapid-fire montage to form the most emotional impactful Matrix-piercing shiv possible. You want to overload your audience's senses and plant a seed of doubt to grow in the future. This is propaganda, it's done with anecdotes, images, and video clips, and the reason it is so wonderful is because it works whether you want it to or not, and even when you know it is propaganda. Crimestop works, but it is vulnerable to sensory overload, and so this is precisely what you want to do.

            Here is my suggestion, start with maybe half a minute of Bezmenov talking about authentic information, ask your audience if they feel that they keep "an open mind" to alternative points of view, if they update their worldview when presented with reality-based evidence or some such thing, making sure to use progressive talking point and disarm their defenses, and proceed to show a rapid fire succession of things that should really, truly piss of intelligent white men.

            Stuff like this:




            I have so many videos like that.

            And maybe throw in an erudite reference to Unqualified Reservations or something.

            Anyway, just my take. Do as you will.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            If your objective is to wake people up, Bezmenov is not the place to start. Firstly, your objective should not be to wake just anyone up, your objective should be to wake up intelligent white men. They are the only ones who really matter. Stupid white men follow smart white men, women follow men, and nonwhites follow whites. So change the opinion of intelligent white men, and everything else organically adjusts downstream.

            I live in Hawaii, where whites are a minority of a minority. I gotta work with what I got.

            but to cut together a rapid-fire montage to form the most emotional impactful Matrix-piercing shiv possible.

            Way ahead of you, fam. I'll have to look into those videos later. But thanks for the advice. I'll try to use as much of it as possible.

            Here is my suggestion, start with maybe half a minute of Bezmenov talking about authentic information,

            Can't. It's for a speech class. Gotta be me talking the whole time.

            [–]LarParWar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            Good luck, Neo.

            May you wield the shiv of glory. May you swing the sword Excalibur in the crisp English air, rending giant gaping holes in the Matrix. May you sever the puppet strings holding up the Progressive unreality with quick, confident blows.

            The White man will rise again. In the name of the West, go forth and conquer.

            [–]Lvl10Bard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I want to print this onto a shirt.

            [–]Oz70NYC 12 points13 points  (0 children)

            6th grade level? That's being a mite generous there, sir.

            [–]awesomeusername999 4 points5 points  (3 children)

            TRP on the otherhand is HillShill proof because they don't want our misogy in their post history

            Absolutely false. CTR goes to /pol/ of all places, and you think they'd be afraid of us?

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Shill accounts are just that: disposable

            [–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            It's not worth it for them.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            /pol/ is a hivemind in service of Trump. Regardless what you say about the rascals, they did exert pretty big influence this election. That seems like a solid place to disrupt as the enemy? This is a cultural war and /pol/ is easily attacked as there is no censoring whatsoever, no downvoting, no reporting, no banning. I assume this subreddit isn't actively promoting Trump and i only see one thread about politics so shills wouldn't target this place... yet. If it comes up in google search they might stumble upon it.

            [–]odenby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I'm heavily in favor of any intellectualy stimulating discussion taking place on TRP be it political or otherwise, because intellectual discussion is self improvement.

            I agree with that. I don't like or support Trump, but I do observe that in a lot of the more mainstream subs an attempt to have a meaningful discussion of Trump just gets flooded with idiotic and simplistic anti-Trump propaganda. And of course, on The_Donald a meaningful conversation about Trump is hard to have because they have a no-criticism policy over there.

            It is fucking good to be able to discuss stuff outside of the various bullshit bubbles, both pro- and anti- Trump. Like being able to breathe fresh air.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            In addition smart phones have nuked people's attention spans birthing a generation of ADHD zombies. Television and film are produced at a sixth grade level so that proles can understand them. Consequently most people now operate on a sixth grade level.

            I haven't watched much TV in the last 10 or so years I haven't had cable, even then I didn't watch much cause I was more into dicking around on the computer during couch potato time. But the other day, I was hanging with some friends who were watching that cartoon China Illinois and holy shit.. ADHD all the way.

            I really believe that film and television entertainment is mainly subversive propaganda. In the film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, the ending where the good guy is made to seem "mad" (even though he is correct) in his accusations toward the Doctor. Then the accuser is shown to be a madman with distorted perception in an insane asylum (conceptually similar to One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest)..

            This is because at that time, the powers that be did not want people questioning authority in depressed post WW1 Germany, so the film served a role to hammer this concept into peoples' heads and condition them. If you question authority and challenge, you will look like a made man and your reputation squashed like a giant stepping on a bug.

            Look at TV and movies today with the typical dimwit beta loser male role who's with a hot wife who keeps it all together. Super fast cuts in filming styles you see in action movies and as I mentioned- the cartoon China Illinois.

            We call them tv shows, our grandparents call them tv programs .

            [–]rossiFan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            smart phones have nuked people's attention spans birthing a generation of ADHD zombies

            I believe the vernacular is "glow worms", but I digress.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 56 points57 points  (20 children)

            The media has him in such a deep trap, and it repulses me. Any guy with an ounce of testosterone and has slept with women to any degree, has said or thinks the exact same shit. Any girl who's gone backstage to see a rapper or any famous person doesn't think it's a completely innocent trip. Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows this, but it's such a social/political death sentence to admit it, that everyone and anyone who has something to lose has turned away from Trump. You'll see some weirdo on a forum talking about how he'd give up his testicle to suck a fart out of Scarlett Johanson or whatever the fuck her name is but then go out and say what Trump said IN PRIVATE is wrong and repulsive. It literally sickens me, and the worst part, is that it is working so well. The whole thing is socially engineered to perfection. Trump reaching with "octopus" like arms creates such a powerful creepy image.

            [–]jackandjill22 21 points22 points  (13 children)

            Dude, Martin Luther King slept with younger women. It's genetic it has nothing to do with your character.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 6 points7 points  (10 children)

            Yeah of course, I don't think I referenced that in what I said. I'm just criticizing all this moral posturing that people are doing. Like everything else, I think all these people who have attempted to smear him will get schlonged.

            [–]jackandjill22 6 points7 points  (9 children)

            I'm not criticizing you I'm saying that Fucking attractive girls is literally a very poor indicator of moral character.

            It could be Trump or MLK.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 7 points8 points  (7 children)

            Yeah any straight guy would want to. I'm referencing the lewd way he said it. I'm implying that most men think and talk this way (in private) and pretending like we don't is just moral posturing and I understand why some people have to do it. I just don't like it.

            [–]jackandjill22 10 points11 points  (6 children)

            Yea, there's this weird phenomena going on; we attack people in the public sphere for things that we all do in the private sphere. It's a form of hypocrisy that's becoming more & more normalized.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 2 points3 points  (2 children)

            I don't want to meet the weirdo who is always a saint at all times. The guy would probably be a giant pussy and ironically unfit to lead people. Most leaders except Jesus, Buddha, Ghandi, and a few honorable mentions are creeps (I say that with affection).

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

            Ghandi was a freak, he slept with his younger niece and he liked to do orgies. Jesus loved a whore, and bhudda would rather chill than fuck bitches.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Didn't know the Ghandi thing. Either way they are men that are idolized for being so "pure". Just further illustrates how you really need to be a creep (I say that with affection) to make it far in life. Just hide it well

            [–]Eyeswears 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            I have to disagree. When it comes to political figures in general, and presidential candidates in particular, we should hold them to a much higher standard than we hold the average Joe. I don't care if Billy Bob makes lewd comments about the sluts at the bar, but I do care if the man who is supposed to be leader of the free world does. He is supposed to be better than 99% of the population, the moral and intellectual center of the country.

            It's not hypocrisy, it's simply making sure someone is qualified for the job. This whole idolization of Trump of TRP is ridiculous. He does not strike me as a good man, i.e. a President. Yes, he is allegedly rich. Yes, he interrupts Hillary every time she tries to say something. Yes, he does what he wants. Yes, he probably slays the pussy. But he does it all the while coming across as most inarticulate, petty, and reactionary. It's all smoke and mirrors hiding a rotten core.

            Too many people here have become so invested in sexual strategy, they apparently now assume because a man follows some points of TRP checklist, he is qualified for the presidency.

            [–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)


            Character ad hominem aren't policies. I don't give a Damn if you don't like him. I don't like him but I want someone who actually can get things done besides. He's genuine.

            Who cares about your feels. The public perception of shes candidate has absolutely zero to do with their effectiveness.

            Clinton comes off as "decent" but she's absurdly hypocritical to the point that the word loses meaning. You want someone that makes you feel good about being there or someone who may not sit with your standards as "public figure behavior" but gets shit done?

            Then obsession with accusations &I annoying hair pieces & blunt language is mind boggling

            [–]OXHockey23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            For sure. How people don't see the media as part of the feminist-conspiracy I do not know. He just seems like an standard alpha who knows how to get lays.

            [–]jackandjill22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Neoreactionary has something to say about that, read about the phrase called a "cathedral".

            [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            I have thought his thoughts therefore I am Trump.

            [–]Mckallidon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Shit. I say worse things at work all damn day. With women.

            [–]MyReddit6 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Just got into an argument over this with some friends. I made the point that most of the attacks on Trump are personal, and I can't stomach how Hillary betrayed Bernie, so I won't be voting for her. My friend is a HARDCORE liberal, but agreed (as he was all about Bernie) So I asked him what do you hate so much about Trump that you would rather vote for the woman who RUINED your favorite candidates campaign?

            They then went on a huge rant about how Trump is a rapist, advocates sexual assault, and judges women based on appearance..... I said "dude 5 minutes ago you just said WAY worse about your new Grindr date...its called trashtalk.."

            I brought up how its way less offensive than anything JFK, Obama, or Bill have done - which they agreed - so why only the hate for Trump?

            After that, they go into how he wants to start WW3 with Russia, but last I checked, he wanted to restore ties with them....so....

            I don't understand how liberals have ABSOLUTELY no understanding of the concept of CONTEXT. Trump said those things in private on a fucking bus trying to talk himself up before a TV appearance, Bill shoved a cigar up a girls ass....go figure. Besides, wasn't 50 Shades of Gray all about how women love a billionaire guy who just takes what he wants? Trump is the real-life embodiment of Liberals deepest, darkest fears & envies.

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            It's confirmation bias man. The media did a great job of creating a confirmation bias of Trump being a racist, a woman hater, and a somehow simultaneous ally of Russia that wants to go to war with Russia. Now whenever anything ever comes out involving women, Russia, or anything about race. True or Not (Most likely false). People will go and point at Trump and scream RAYCIS, SEXIST, RUSSIA LOVING WAR MONGER.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

            Random guy says "fuck her right in the pussy" on live news TV, everyone laughs their asses off and shares it.

            Literally hundreds of rappers sing about selling drugs, abusing and pimping women etc.. No one calls them "misogynist" because that would be racist.

            Rich white guy makes a comment in private X amount of years ago about grabbing a woman by the pussy or whatever (a comment that literally every living person with a penis has made at some point, same goes for women) and the whole world gets triggered because the news networks tell them to.

            The media is a very very powerful tool. Even on an independent level like reddit or tumblr. Look at the amount of women who have turned into batshit crazy blue hairs cause they think men are raping them because they check out their ass..

            [–]offthebeatmeoff 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            There is this persuasion tactic that takes advantage of the fact that we have limited attention. As humans we pay attention to something because it is important. If a bear walks within 100 ft of you it'll have 100% of your attention. By pushing topics into our attention (even if they are objectively trivial) it creates an illusion that the topic is important.

            [–]Olipyr 116 points117 points  (5 children)

            Quite frankly, this attack on Trump is yet another attack on masculinity. This time, the attack is focused on shaming men for being men in private.

            It's unsubstantiated.

            This election is much, much bigger than what we can imagine, and yes, I'll put my tin foil hat on.

            [–]oxykitten80mg 27 points28 points  (1 child)

            Exactly, this war on masculinity has gone on far too long and our only hope of stopping it right now is Trump. I just pray that all the blue-pill betas saying they hate Trump blah blah blah....is all just virtue signaling, and that when it comes down to brass tacks in the privacy of the voting booth they do the right thing and vote Trump. They can tell all the fem-nazis from their gender studies class that "I'm with her" but if they want to stay outta prison because some girl they fucked decides that she is not into them, two weeks post coitus, and cries rape. Now is the time to stop this war on men before its too late.

            Six years of hitlery and you will be getting called a sexist pig for signing your son up for baseball instead of ballet.

            [–]Troll_Name 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            Mark my words: in the last few days before the votes are cast, there will be "news" celebrities on TV echoing accusations of pedophilia.

            It's like asking in court, "how many times did you beat your wife." The answer to this question is irrelevant. It's a magic spell which causes damage just by being cast on someone.

            If Hillary takes the white house, magic accusations will be permanently cemented worldwide as an acceptable tactic. They've already caught on hard in Europe and Asia - that's why Julian Assange has been stuck in an embassy for entire years.

            [–]redpillnexus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Couldn't agree more. Criticizing him for being a billionaire womanizer is just absurd. I would be shocked and a bit concerned if he didn't use his status in society on women (who, lets be honest, were probably all over him when this "assault" happened). Trump embodies Red Pill thinking in to every fiber of his being. Its important that we support him.

            [–]Auctoritate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            This time, the attack is focused on shaming men for being men in private.

            Is it really private if it's an assault on another person (allegedly)?

            [–]GetrichonIMP 67 points68 points  (7 children)

            Also, it can't hurt that we might avoid nuclear war with Russia.

            [–]CuckedByTRUMP 29 points30 points  (2 children)

            Their trying to start war to so he can justify not letting a new president step in.

            [–]_Trigglypuff_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            To effectively stage a coup on the white house would be short lived.

            [–]stemgang 22 points23 points  (0 children)

            The nuclear brinksmanship by Hillary is so damn irresponsible! Syria has been a client state of the Russians for decades, and we presume to stomp in there and threaten to shoot down their planes? That is how you start a shooting war.

            [–]Auctoritate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I thought Trump was the one being super gung ho on his warfare policies?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Just tonight I cleared a group of my extended family out of the house. The Hitlaryites had to leave.

            All I did was argue that criticizing a guy for crude guy talk is outrageous and ask:

            "Are the democrats really willing to go to war with Russia just to prove that Hitlary has testicles."

            I was about to mention Suffrage and how the tallest and better looking candidate has won every election since women were given the right to vote but that was enough to clear the room.

            [–]Blacklabellogics 64 points65 points  (16 children)

            The fact is that sexual assault is perfect: A) It's a crime that society perceives males as being the de facto committers of.

            B) It's a crime that is largely a case of word against word

            C) It caters to the view of "men as offenders, women as victims"

            D) Even if a man is found not guilty, his life is ruined.

            How is this not a perfect control mechanism to screw men over?

            [–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 35 points36 points  (10 children)

            It's a perfect tool that has been repeatedly used in the past when non-establishment men get too far. Hell, they even tried it on Trump earlier in the campaign (the cunt reporter disregarding protocol, invading Trump's space, and getting "manhandled" away from him). It would have probably done more damage except they had security camera footage of the incident.

            [–]1Original_Dankster 33 points34 points  (9 children)

            It's a perfect tool that has been repeatedly used in the past when non-establishment men get too far.

            What does the arrest warrant for Julian Assange read? It ain't espionage, he didn't spy on anybody. It ain't treason, he's done nothing against Australia.

            No - he's alleged (with no evidence whatsoever) to have not used a condom; and apparently that's sexual assault in Sweden.

            [–]Mckallidon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

            I'm never going to Sweden lol.

            [–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Holy shit bro. I just read up on that. This is really crazy. Women would go to any length to fuck up men.

            [–]DirtieHarry 6 points7 points  (0 children)

            Scary, isn't it?

            [–]jackandjill22 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            It's an assumed grey area Schopenhauer.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            they will continue to weaponize this further until Ivanka Trump is our only hope.

            [–]throwawayyourliberty 57 points58 points  (14 children)

            The elites did not expect that Trump comes out on top. Normally we have to choose between two controlled candidates. It was planned that Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton were "fighting" for president. Now Trump appeared and destroyed surprisingly the other republican candidates.

            Brainwashing is so effective that many people live in a different reality. The media is brought into one line and goes all out against Trump. Not only every news channel is attacking Trump, also Youtube stars are bought to secure Hillary Clintons victory.

            One great logical inconsistency many people still ignore is the Russia example. On the one hand Trump is meant to be friends with Putin and Russia, but on the other hand is he is a crazy lunatic, who will start WW III against...yes Russia.

            The average human being is bombarded with a false reality but many people are still able to notice that something is not alright. Trump is plain-talking. He doesn't hide between Orwellian newspeak and political correctness and addresses the reality, not an illusion.

            Donald J. Trump now fills stadiums, meanwhile Hillary cant even fill town halls. Do not believe the mass media. Do not believe the polls. They are rigged to demoralize you and your reality.

            We are on the edge in our western-society. Cultural marxism and feminism is deeply rooted in our society now, we are weak and we are defenseless. Hillary stands for the elites, but Trump stands for the people. Trump is not a globalist.

            This video breaks the media narrative and should be watched if you are not sure about Donald J. Trump. He is a genuine guy, who wants the best for the average american. You do not have to like Donald J. Trump, but as a man with logic and reason you are able to look behind the curtains and see what the elites want you to do. They want you to be enslaved - forever. Donald Trump wants an alternative. He wants to give the people their power back. You do not have to like him, but he is not a criminal and a liar, who tries to continue as usual for few elites. Hillary wants war. Decide what you want.

            [–]Modredpillschool[S] 10 points11 points  (10 children)

            Interesting perspective. Do you think Trump is doing better that the media is letting on, then?

            If the media/facebook/reddit is to be believed, Trump's campaign is already over.

            [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (1 child)

            As an US outsider, the amount of Anti-Trump stuff that's getting ridiculous attention is staggering. The louder they scream anti-trump, the more of a threat he actually is is. And they're screaming really loud.

            [–]8n0n 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            As an US outsider, the amount of Anti-Trump stuff that's getting ridiculous attention is staggering.

            I've seen the same thing happening in Australian media since very early in his campaign. Silver lining is that it has made the number of media sources worth visiting much lower in number.

            [–]jackandjill22 12 points13 points  (1 child)

            They've been saying he's over since he first started running.

            [–]RealMcGonzo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

            They've been saying he's over since he first started running.

            100%. Last January when he was leading the polls for the nomination, the MSM were still saying he'd drop out any day now -when he was winning! Before one GOP debate, so-called republican insiders implied that even if Trump beat the lottery-high odds to win the nomination, he'd be totally crushed in the general election and so would virtually every other GOP nominee.

            This continued through the debates. Trump will cancel the rest of them has long been the story. I'm sure we'll see stories about how Trump plans to walk out of this last one, if he even bothers to show up. And then he will be there and kick ass. This election cycle shows that not only is the MSM very biased, but they no longer even pretend to put on a show of objectivity. They just as bad as Pravda ever was.

            [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 7 points8 points  (0 children)

            Increasingly panicked-sounding establishment types have been saying that since before he won the primaries.

            [–]throwawayyourliberty 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            I am surprised nobody upvoted my post, maybe i should hijack a top comment...

            Of course. It is a war on your mind. The average american is a sheep and follows the crowd. Donald Trumps early image was that he is a winner. They destroyed his image by rigging the polls and demoralize the whole Trump support. There is a constant oversampling of democratic voters in polls or the methodology is rigged to improve Hillary's figures. Proof is here (Politico), here (ABC), here (MSNBC) and here (CNN)

            The best joke is this video about a NYC Democratic Election Commissioner, who boasts about rigging the polls.

            Donald Trump will win. Brexit was the same.

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Absolutely, you can't get hard facts but most polls over sample liberals, over sample younger people. Most of the same people who report on these polls are the ones doing most of the attacking against Trump. Look at Brexit. Trump get's admiration from voters, Hillary gets sympathy votes. I think he has a solid chance and not the low chances the media is reporting. Just think about why they are going full out, they are scared out of their mind. They can't control the population anymore.

            [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (21 children)

            Machiavelli would be spinning in his grave. Who endorses a man who is self-immolating? Trump is the lion, but he has no idea what a fox is, apparently, and you need to be both in order to be an effective leader.

            [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

            There's a reason we call Pence: Silver Fox.

            He outfoxed Kaine quite easily.

            [–]XiLingChi 3 points4 points  (3 children)

            He really did make Kaine look like a buzzword vomiting dope from Whoville.

            That debate showed stronger than the Trump v Hillary ones that the questions are being giving to the Dems in advance. For the final VP question Kaine was giddy knowing it was over and even said something like "i'm glad we got to this question..."

            [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            Jesus. Didn't even notice that..

            [–]XiLingChi 1 point2 points  (1 child)

            yeah i knew practically nothing about Pence but i got major respect for him after that debate. The last question he was truly speaking from the heart about something that completely contradicts his morals and yet is something that he should know will never be overcome.

            I'm all for abortions. I want dummies who get pregnant and who don't want a child to be able to rid the world of an extra dumbass raised by dumbasses, but to not acknowledge that it's the killing of a human is retarded.

            Pence seems like the only straight shooter in the election, halfway just because Trump has too much damn energy

            [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            I agree. Trump is like a shot gun. Pence is more of a scoped out rifle.

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              [–]CuckedByTRUMP 12 points13 points  (13 children)

              I disagree emphatically. Trump follows the rule that rules all rules:

              • Law 6: Court Attention at all costs

              It states "at all costs" and it does mean this. Trump is fighting the media, he is fighting the government, he is fighting the fucking pope, he is fighting against feminism, he is fighting the left, he is fighting the right, he is fighting the elite, he is fighting facebook, google, twitter, etc. etc. etc.

              The only person he is not fighting is the unplugged American. He HAS to be controversial. If he does not get enough spotlight they will drown him out with all of their power and control of how people absorb media. Law 6 is the most important law in the laws of power and is the only law that states to sacrifice all others to accomplish it if needed. Yes you can go too far but at this point I would say he isn't even halfway near where he needs to be. Just wait thought. I believe Trump has the final act prepared and even the encore.

              I fully disagree with anyone that does not believe Trump is a master Machiavellian.

              [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              Machiavelli wasn't aware of the "laws of power". He wrote the book on power and how to keep it. You don't throw your support behind a loser politics. Period.

              [–]bullyheart 0 points1 point  (1 child)

              Law 6: Court Attention at all costs

              Kim Kardashian and Snooky also do this.

              [–]CuckedByTRUMP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Yep, Trump does it better and remains more likeable. Before the election he had way higher favorables. The negatives come from the media attacks.

              [–]graffix13 25 points26 points  (0 children)

              I just walked by the TV here at work (which is on CNN, of course) and the "BREAKING NEWS STORY: Trump Accused of Sexual Assault by yet Another Woman" or some other trite was on the screen. Seriously? Another one? They are coming out of the woodwork now like roaches. I guess a few months ago these women were too busy to speak up.

              The Blue Pill hive mind is so predictable.

              [–]LordThunderbolt 34 points35 points  (4 children)

              Time and time again I'm reminded that the average man is a fucking moron, and it might even include me even though I believe the opposite.

              Trump doesn't understand your concerns. He's not from the same level of thinking as the regular American. He stated that his father once made him a SMALL loan of million dollars. Explain to me in what world is one million a small loan? It shows you that this man doesn't understand what it's like to have bills that are bleeding your wallet, or stressing about making rent, or having money issues.

              That was point one. Point two is about you morons understanding that a president is not an emperor. Trump cannot build a wall on the Mexican border, because he doesn't have the power to do so. It's up to the US legislative branch to pass a statute ordering the construction of the wall to protect American interests. Trump won't change anything about language and micro aggressions because again he has no say in the matter.

              There are matters far more pressing and important to a president than Sjws.

              You guys have zero understanding of how country actually work and just shouldn't be allowed to vote, based on your reasons why you think ejecting that man for 4 years are.

              [–]Modredpillschool[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

              Of course Trump can't build a wall. He uses hyperbole to demonstrate where his head is at. Are you daft?

              [–]LordThunderbolt 18 points19 points  (0 children)

              Be real with yourself here because I already know he was very literal about that wall.

              [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (12 children)

              As a non-American, I look at Trump's ideology, and I regret somewhat that he couldn't be a little more tactful. This election cycle demonstrates that a significant number of people are looking for a change - whether it be more of the fatherly, leftist figure in Bernie Sanders, or the maverick in Trump. My point is that Trump as an ideology is electable, but he has given the opposition a great deal of ammunition to throw at him by being too bombastic and allowing himself to be drawn into this image of being a bigoted moron. There has been evidence since the first debate that he has learned from these mistakes, but his recovery now is being met with all the propaganda that was inevitably going to be thrown at him as we hit the last leg of the election trail - the Democrats have had all this shit saved up and there will be more of it to come, be it in the form of truth or lies.

              However, if Donald Trump is not elected, we should take heart from his successful campaign and continue to petition for fairer electoral systems, instead of allowing the parties to close up and prevent anti-establishment candidates from running a serious campaign for President (like the Democrats did to Bernie). Trump's campaign shows that people are prepared to listen to different ideas, and that the liberal attitudes towards immigration, SJWs, etc., are beginning to turn. The tide is turning and the powers that be are trying to correct that by controlling the narrative. If Trump fails, all it requires is that somebody in his image comes along and demonstrates a little more savvy so as to prevail, if indeed Trump doesn't win this time around.

              [–]jackandjill22 4 points5 points  (2 children)

              This election has devolved into a literal shit-slinging contest

              [–]BadBradLee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Trump realtalks and that is why he is winning. It is a miracle, in that I doubt there will be any hope for this country after this election if he loses.

              His bombastic personality is tied to his policy decisions and his campaign. He is not perfect, and doesn't have to be.

              He is what he is, but he might be the "hero we need."

              [–]JohnnyHammerstickz 21 points22 points  (9 children)

              TRP itself is the farthest thing from apolitical/bipartisan. To say anything otherwise would be completely ignorant.

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                [–]bigcitytruth 4 points5 points  (3 children)

                Trickle down economics, capital gains taxes and insurance companies work exactly the same way, whether you eat a red or a blue pill.

                [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                Yeah but depending on what pill you eat can influence wether these things help or fuck You.

                [–]bigcitytruth 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                That's really stretching it, nearly to the point of snapping, but I'll let it pass.

                [–]Mckallidon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Oh jeez. That saved my day.

                [–]sigma272 74 points75 points  (14 children)

                There will be so many feminist tears about this post that we may see a rise in sea levels.

                [–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (2 children)

                I wonder if it will top GLO's white meat asian pussy post. Archwingers 'shitty wives are rape victims' or that indian guys rant about racism is why he can't bag hot blondes?

                [–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                indian guys rant about racism is why he can't bag hot blondes

                How dare you? The missus cannot be racist.

                [–]FriedHayek 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                'shitty wives are rape victims'

                I've read historical stories about men in catholic england, who felt really, really cheated when the women they married looked far, far hotter before the marriage night. Divorce wasn't an option then. Accidents happened on much more frequent basis way back when, however.

                indian guys rant about racism is why he can't bag hot blondes

                I remember that one. Still funny, however. Sad that he is unable to read sidebar. I thought indians were smart.

                [–]Lifting4Gainz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Salty tears. A dead body will be able to float on that shit. Pretty sure that's how the Dead Sea was formed... Pretty sure...

                [–]bmrdriver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Al Gore will claim it's because of global warming. He will then get in his private jet to fly to a dozen counties to preach and get filthy rich.

                [–]crx1 21 points22 points  (2 children)

                It has been said that at least 66% of those in the US mainstream media are registered democrats and quite possibly, liberal democrats. Despite this, I can't recall a single past election where the media has been so blatantly in the pocket for the democrat and so against the republican candidate. The current state of US journalism has become more akin to the former Soviet Union than to a free democracy.

                [–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Id be SHOCKED if it wasnt higher, and especially among the leadership/ownership of media.

                One thing is for sure, the US media has really exposed themselves like never before during this election. Our budget is almost $4 trillion dollars. With so many at the trough, you can bet there is going to be panic everywhere when someone threatens that cash stream.

                [–]hawtfabio 25 points26 points  (7 children)

                Are you guys fucking kidding me? This is a new low even for you. You think that a man who grabs women without consent is to be praised and is "fighting for your rights?" So you think sexually assaulting women is the "right" of a man? Do us all a favor and don't vote. You guys are delusional and sick.

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

                You're new here, aren't you?

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                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                You're concern trolling. Out with you.

                [–]Usecod 31 points32 points  (16 children)

                I endorsed Donald Trump for president on 26th June 2015.Thanks for coming to the team.

                [–]throwawayyourliberty 16 points17 points  (12 children)

                It is a war on your mind. The average american is a sheep and follows the crowd. Donald Trumps early image was that he is a winner. They destroyed his image by rigging the polls and demoralizing the whole Trump support. There is a constant oversampling of democratic voters in polls or the methodology is rigged to improve Hillary's figures. Proof is here (Politico), here (ABC), here (MSNBC) and here (CNN) and many more...

                The best joke is this video about a NYC Democratic Election Commissioner, who boasts about rigging the polls.

                Do not believe the media. Donald Trump will win. Brexit was the same.

                [–]Usecod 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                I know.Almost every poll was against Brexit and the result was opposite.I dont trust the polls especially from the MSM.

                [–]Modredpillschool[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

                I actually endorsed him in my offline life much sooner, but the sexual assault nonsense has made this race very relevant to TRP recently.

                [–]PedophilePriest 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                that's the day supreme Court legalized gay marriage in all 50 states correct?

                [–]J_AsapGem 8 points9 points  (0 children)

                What's worst is the media is so good at manipulating the people and keeping them plugged in, i don't even live in america but the country is live in are completely under control by what the media feeds them and it's very sad, i really hope it doesn't have to come to this but the only way for people to learn is through pain, then again the left is growing largely by the day because of this manipulation of the media, all i know is if trump doesn't win that's pretty much it, america is screwed and what's worst hillary will have her hands on the most powerful ( allegedly ) nation in the world.

                [–]odenby 22 points23 points  (6 children)

                I'm a guy who's not going to vote for Clinton or for Trump, and here's my take: I like what Trump and his supporters have done to fight back against liberal dogma and bullshit and to open up the conversation about immigration, foreign alliances, the health of the economy, and various other issues. Unfortunately, I cannot support Trump. He is in favor of big government, freewheeling executive power, torture and collective punishment as military policies, and NSA spying on Americans.

                No thanks. Yes, I know that Clinton supports many of those things too. That's why I'm not going to vote for Clinton, either.

                Hitching the anti-SJW movement to Trump's train is a mistake. The phenomenon of Trump as a /pol hero, a Pepe the frog candidate, has always been somewhat unnatural at its root — since Trump supports the NSA and expanding police powers, he is ultimately neither a friend of freedom on the Internet nor a friend of freedom on the street. The memes are funny, but meme Trump is not the real Trump. While Trump's campaign has been valuable in pushing back against PC culture, he is not the great champion of liberty and fighter against censorship that some of his supporters like to see him as.

                He has also turned out to not be a very strong candidate. It's impressive how far he has come, and he was doing well for a while, but his performance in that first debate was terrible. He seemed completely unprepared and not even able to improvise his way forward, and his campaign has been slumping ever since. He has not been able to find a way to effectively fight back against the enormous assault on him waged by the mainstream media.

                There is a lot to be learned from Trump's campaign and from his initial successes, but going forward, we need better people than him, and more competent politicians as well. I hope that we will now start seeing more people in politics who are outspoken, authentic, and non-PC like Trump is but who have better policy ideas and are more competent.

                [–]ManCubEagle 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                He is in favor of big government, freewheeling executive power, torture and collective punishment as military policies, and NSA spying on Americans.

                I think you need to go read his actual policies on those (except for the torture, which he did say he would use - and honestly I have no real problem with as long as we're sure they have information that can save lives). He's most certainly not for big government; in fact many of his main topics are about how there is a ridiculous amount of regulation that stifles small business and is forcing larger corporations to leave the US.

                I'm also not sure where you got the idea that he's for "freewheeling executive power" or that he would abuse executive power if/when he was in office.

                I think it's also ignorant of you to say that you like how Trump and his followers began to push back against the third wave feminist SJW bullshit culture, but that he isn't effective because he hasn't found a way to fight back against the mainstream media. That's literally because of people like you and the attitude that you have. You believe the garbage that the media is feeding you about him slumping or falling behind in polls, when if you go actually look at the support he's receiving (he's up in major polls, and routinely gets crowds of 15+ thousand, when Hillary gets a few hundred), you can see that's not true. If you think he did a good job of pushing back against this culture that you say you hate, why do you think it's acceptable to not vote for him and potentially help Hillary get into office, where she will perpetuate that same culture?

                [–]odenby 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                1) big government - Trump wants to expand funding for the military, which is a completely unnecessary step given that the US already has more conventional military power than the next several nations combined. This is a total big government move. Trump also supports the NSA metadata collection programs, which is a big government move. Economically, he's for protectionism, which essentially means taxing international trade. Big government move.

                2) freewheeling executive power - I admit, I have no explicit proof that Trump wants freewheeling executive power. However, so many of his proposed solutions to problems involve applying executive/law enforcement/military power that I think there's good reason to believe that Trump would try to push the boundaries of the office if elected.

                3) torture - this you admit.

                4) collective punishment - Trump on Fox and Friends:

                We’re fighting a very politically correct war. And the other thing with the terrorists — you have to take out their families. When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families! They care about their lives, don’t kid yourselves. They say they don’t care about their lives. But you have to take out their families.


                5) NSA spying - Trump on Fox and Friends, talking about Snowden.

                Well first of all, he's a terrible guy, I said it right from the beginning, so many people are trying to defend him, "Look at what he's revealed... and isn't it wonderful what he's revealed?" And you have people marching in his favor. He's a terrible guy, he's really set our country back. China's now looking at us like, you know, we're taking it. We were hitting them hard on what they were doing in terms of what they were taking from us, and now they are really going at it, they're saying we're far worse than they ever were. He's really hurt us in terms of relationships. It really shows how weak our country's been and has become when you cannot get this guy back. I mean, you'd think you'd tell these countries, "Hey, folks, we're not making any deals with you until he's on a plane, and that includes Russia, that includes everybody. We really have become a very different nation than we were.
                You know, spies in the old days used to be executed. This guy is becoming a hero in some circles. I will say, with the passage of time, even people who were sort of liking him and trying to go on his side are maybe dropping out. But you know, when you look at where he goes, and now nobody knows where he is, but we've got to get him back and we've got to get him back fast. They're talking about, it could take years, it could take months or maybe years, that would be pathetic.
                And the other countries are definitely doing it and you know, we used to hit them pretty hard for doing it, and now they just look at us and smile because what he's revealed is incredible. I mean, he's revealing things that nobody thought possible. And I think he's probably got stuff that's far, that's maybe why he's staying in Russia. Russia's very smart, and they're probably getting every possible thing out of him, they said, "Hey waitaminute, let's not send him to Ecuador or wherever he's going, let's immediately, let's talk to him for a couple more days, this is pretty good stuff."
                Well you know, China has been on my mind for years, and you know it better than anybody because you know, I do your show every Monday. We have a little thing going on, China, and it just amazes me when I see what goes on and you know, for him to be ensconced in China and then, all of a sudden, he gets out because they say, "I'm sorry, you sent in the wrong document, we would have done it but you sent in the wrong document." And they got a lot of information out of this guy. This guy's a bad guy. And you know, there is still a thing called execution. You really have to, you have to take a strong, hey, you have thousands of people with access to material like this. We're not going to have a country any longer...
                (At this point, the host asks how Trump feels about the newspapers that printed what Snowden exposed. Trump continues.)
                Well I think it's disgraceful, I mean, that's what they do. I guess you can't really hold it... yeah, I mean, they have information. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could say... hey folks, come on, give us a break. But how does he get this information? Here's a guy didn't even graduate from high school, he was high school dropout, how did he get the job in the first place? Where did he come from? And now he's traveling the world and everybody's protecting him, it really is a shame. Our country is in very sad shape. I mean look, we have to do something, you have thousands of Snowdens out there, I would imagine most of them at least have a high school education. But you have thousands of people with this kind of access. And who's gonna be the next Snowden? Unless the retribution is swift and really strong, you're gonna have other people coming out with more information than he's had.


                Now, for all I know, maybe Snowden really did spill the beans to the Russians and the Chinese. But the thing is, I don't give a fuck. Snowden having done that would be a tiny drop in the bucket compared to the magnitude of the fact that the government built, in secret, a giant surveillance apparatus that it then turned against domestic communications.

                Here's another Trump quote on the NSA:

                Well, I tend to err on the side of security, I must tell you," Trump replied, "and I’ve been there for longer than you would think. But, you know, when you have people that are beheading if you’re a Christian and frankly for lots of other reasons, when you have the world looking at us and would like to destroy us as quickly as possible, I err on the side of security, and so that’s the way it is, that’s the way I’ve been, and some people like that, frankly, and some people don’t like that.


                Trump wants big government national security efforts to address the threat of terrorism. Now I understand, perhaps as a New Yorker he was particularly affected by 9/11. But in my view, giving the government more powers so that the government can address the problem is a mistake. It trades in freedom for the promise of security. And if there's one thing that I think would actually make America great again, it's being willing to risk security in order to be free.

                I'll add a sixth point...

                6) Stop and frisk - Trump supports stop and frisk. But stop and frisk violates people's liberties. It's probably effective, but there are many powers we could give law enforcement that would make them more effective. Doesn't mean it's a good idea. It's possible to effectively address violent crime without violating liberties: Don't give each cop more power to pry into people's lives. Instead, put more cops on the streets so that violent criminals will understand that it would be very hard to get away with anything.

                Trump always seems to favor the quick, direct, authoritarian fix and doesn't consider what harmful effects the use of such methods might have on the country's liberty.

                That's literally because of people like you and the attitude that you have.

                I think it's more likely because the mainstream media backs Clinton.

                he's up in major polls

                And down in more polls, from what I understand.

                and routinely gets crowds of 15+ thousand

                So did Sanders. The elections are either rigged, which I suppose is possible but I doubt, or — more likely — there are just a lot people in this country who don't go to rallies but vote Clinton. I admit it's rather strange to think of, since I've hardly ever met any open Clinton voters, but then I've hardly ever met any open Trump supporters either, so I probably just do not intersect with those social circles much.

                If you think he did a good job of pushing back against this culture that you say you hate, why do you think it's acceptable to not vote for him and potentially help Hillary get into office, where she will perpetuate that same culture?

                The torture support is a dealbreaker for me. I mean, it seems likely to me that the CIA would send some people off to shady foreign regimes to get tortured under Clinton, too, but Trump openly supports it, so with Clinton I'm 80% certain people will get tortured and with Trump I'm 99% certain people will get tortured. It may not seem like a big difference, perhaps, but I am really against torture.

                [–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                You have a problem with 'stop and frisk' and 'enhanced interrogation'.

                These are the stuff that usually the blacks and muslims have problems with. Because they are the ones who are affected by it.

                [–]odenby 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                Yeah, I have a problem with it because I think it's immoral.

                [–]CuckedByTRUMP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I'm gonna ditto what the other guys said. He is not for big government, and is not for freewheeling executive power. He is against the TPP which IMO is the single most important issue of the election outside the one this post discusses. Hillary's leaked emails show she is lying and will sign the TPP.


                And he goes line by line telling you how he wants to fix our trade deals: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/trade/

                [–]RedPillWintergreen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                If I got one thing out of that clip it is that Donald Trump would be a fun guy to hang out and bullshit with.

                [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                I agree completely, and the analysts who support Trump did a good job of bringing this up tonight in their post-debate.

                Political correctness is the real star of the show, and it's used to deflect criticisms against any demographic except straight white males who aren't veterans or handicapped (SWMWAVOH). Hillary is an enabler to this line of poisonous thinking, and when she's elected things will only get worse.

                The one candidate who treats Americans equally is Trump. He slanders and praises blacks, whites, asians, and hispanics all the same. You get honesty. We at least know women don't want equal treatment, they want special treatment.

                Hillary elevates all of these demographics above SWMWAVOHs to a territory where they are no longer held accountable for their actions. This is exactly what radical feminism does for women. This is exactly what racism does for one's own race.

                People make the argument of civility being the sound reasoning for overdramatized political correctness. Use the same political correctness with Iran, Russia, and Syria and see how far that gets us. So far it looks like we're getting the shit end of the stick, failing to keep Iran down, not being able to enforce boundaries with Putin, while China leaves us in the dust. It's laughable.

                [–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

                Technically, protection men from sexual assault is a Hillary position, isn't it?

                "I'm with her" because she will destroy the accusers

                [–]EdmondDaunts 10 points11 points  (2 children)

                Before Brexit there was another "shock" in a sense but was not as widely reported at the time but has changed since. This was Rodrigo Durerte, or Dugong, getting into power in the Philippines.

                Some of the stuff he told the press like if the reporters betrayed the Filipino people he would fucking kill them, was even more out there than Trump. Trump who is using his skills of influence rather than being an oaf.

                Duterte won by 13 million votes to 7 million of the next contender even allowing for vote fraud. And now he is more famous for taking on corruption and drug dealing as well as telling Obama to screw it.

                He was often called the Donald Trump of Asia.

                When people are sick of the shit they'll vote with someone who gets results. I watched the recent Florida speech in which Trump talked frankly about the allegations and wasn't afraid to call out the stinking shit of the media. It was brilliant.

                I hope he gets in.

                [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                people want strong leaders that speak frankly. we see smooth talking obama and where did that get us exactly?

                [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Here is a perfect website for the "what has Obama done or got us."

                Enjoy: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

                [–]1PantsonFire1234 11 points12 points  (0 children)

                Trump might be one of our last hopes to overthrow the current system and banish the lyers forever. More importantly he's the embodiment of everything masculine. Trump becoming president in the US means the West will eventually reflect him. We are taking our manhood back. No more slaves.

                Freedom for all.

                [–]J_AsapGem 11 points12 points  (15 children)

                The way you laid out everything actually has me scared for american, if hillary wins the current events will be magnified 10 folds, more people need to see this message.

                [–]logicalthinker1 22 points23 points  (4 children)

                The republicans are turning against him because he's an asshat who is going to get destroyed, give the GOP a horrible rep, and lose the House and Senate. They were backing him until he started blowing it like a fucking moron. He's incompetent.

                He's not a rp hero. He's an idiot, he's a sexual pervert, he has huge insecurities, and is as eloquent as a bag of dog shit. Oh, and he's known for being a deal maker his entire life. Lol he IS the system.

                Stop confusing being stupid with being alpha. Stop confusing rudeness with boldness. Stop confusing his lack of eloquence for straight talk. He whines about everything (sounds like a huge alpha to me lololol.), and is getting out smarted by an old, ugly, unlikeable lady. He's the slime ball con man that you think is really gonna help you make it big! You just need to give him your money.

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                  [–]logicalthinker1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                  Which shows just how shallow their understanding is of what TRP is about. I guess some think you just call women pigs, act like a moron, whine about news organizations, and generally act petty.

                  He's absolutely a middle finger to the political process. And that accomplishs about as much as a middle finger to your boss. Sure, emotionally it feels great doing it. Fuck him! Right?! Then he fires you, you lose your income, you can't get another job because that incident is on your professional record, and you work at McDonald's. Yay we did it America!!!

                  [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                  I cuntymcfagnuts69 also endorse Donald J Trump.

                  [–]Novembercriminal 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  That's what we needed. A gamechanger

                  [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I laughed out loud, thanks.

                  [–]Swifle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  "If economics was a solved field, we probably wouldn't even need elections today."

                  That was the biggest laugh I had on reddit/imgur today, thank you for that.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  How about:

                  A vote not for Trump counts as a vote for Hillary

                  And that ends the decision making process, ahah. Seriously, even if somebody thinks Trump is dirty, what are the odds he's dirtier than Clinton. Basically 0. I don't see this even needing to get ideological. There is a risky choice and a known terrible choice...

                  [–]rock_or_something69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  I've repeatedly gotten into arguments with people, both men and women, that railed about trumps "actions". I'd correct them saying "you mean words right?" They had utterly internalized the Duluth wheel DV idea that words equate violence or an attack. The OP is absolutely right about the way our language has been manipulated to the point where we can't even think clearly anymore.

                  [–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 24 points25 points  (7 children)

                  Biff Tannen for President! Yayy!

                  I will be so glad when this election season is over.

                  Trump is not Alpha.

                  • Not sexually, his SMV is 1-2 with no money.
                  • Not in leadership, he is a demagogue who panders to peoples' fears, without offering solutions.
                  • Not in Frame, he takes no responsibility or agency for his words and decisions, instead lashing out and blaming everyone else for his failings.
                  • Not economically, he takes credit for and puts his name on the accomplishments of others, then proceeds to screw his creditors and employees out of their money and pay.
                  • Not in his masculinity, his comments about his daughter for example are creepy by any standard, and represent the words and thoughts of a thirsty man.

                  People didn't have to be told to feel disgust at his "pussy" remarks by the media, these sentiments were cemented in the moment people heard him say this.

                  Look again at the woman in the video, it is her job to appear glad to greet these high profile personalities, but I can see an undercurrent of disgust at both of their beta asses. If Trump wasn't rich, and Bush wasn't the show host or whatever, I could not see her willingly walking with them.

                  Sexual assault is why I'm endorsing Donald Trump

                  Considering "TRP is a bunch of rapey misogynists" is one of the sub's most common criticisms, you're really betting the farm on this, RPS.

                  I'm old enough to remember Nixon. When the Watergate scandal first broke, lots of Republicans rallied behind him out of party loyalty and hatred for the hippie left at the time. Within one year, you'd be hard pressed to find ONE person willing to admit they had voted for Nixon. I predict the same will happen with Trump, whether he's ultimately elected or not. Edit:Format+link

                  [–]Modredpillschool[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

                  I'm not really making an argument that he is alpha. In fact I agree with you. Let me sit on this for a while and come up with a response, you make good points.

                  [–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                  Yeah, illimitablemen calls his type the king. Self unaware and lashes out, but definite dark triad

                  [–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                  I'll take Dark Triad, though that probably elevates him a bit much. Narcissist alone covers 80% of Trump.

                  [–]JohnnyRaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Okay, regardless of all that, hes still far better than Hillary...so what difference does it make?

                  [–]creditoruim 8 points9 points  (1 child)

                  I've always thought TRP was about being rational. Donald Trump doesn't believe in climate change, which just is not rational. At least Hillary knows that scientists know more than she does. They're smarter and the consensus is the planet's environmental stability is a big threat.

                  edit: formatting

                  [–]Helmut_Newton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Politics has nothing to do with rationality. We are stuck in a rigged system with two terrible choices. Trump is simply the least terrible choice, all things considered.

                  [–]dinosauralienspirits 17 points18 points  (0 children)

                  Donald Trump is fucking dumb dude. Any reason you are voting for him in that long ass post is overshadowed by how absolutely shit of a leader Donald trump is.

                  [–]el_Technico 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  Donald Trump is very much a part of the system. Follow the money, he is a Rockefeller stooge. The only reason he is even running is to ensure the established get their president hillary Clinton. Anyone else half competent that ran against her would have won.

                  [–]PaulAJK 12 points13 points  (1 child)

                  Trump's lost frame too many times to win. I think it's a shame, but in truth the only person who could beat Trump was Trump, and he's done it.

                  [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  I hope you're not right but it's true that this is Trump's game to lose.

                  [–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (6 children)

                  Nice, but there's far greater reasons to vote for Trump than gender issues. The gender war they've launched against Trump is only meant as a distraction from reality.

                  [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

                  I think my point is, vote on gender issues now, or lose your option to be represented in the future.

                  [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

                  If Trump loses, this may be our last election ever.

                  [–]DirtieHarry 3 points4 points  (3 children)

                  As men, or as United States citizens?

                  [–]blackjackANDplates 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                  Both. They will push the "masculinity is dangerous" line, from academia to media.. and each year males will have less rights while females and made-up genders will gain more. USA was built by males, once they are gone and women and their pets have complete control, USA will end up like The Roman Empire.

                  [–]DirtieHarry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                  If the US does not course correct in a big way, I fear you are correct.

                  [–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  we're already in the bread and circuses phase and you are in the front fucking row you dumb shit

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                  Imagine the violent protests in 8 years with women and their mangina tools smashing windows and screaming: "Women lives matter." I believe that is her plan for America, to demolish gender relations in the same way as the last guy demolished race relations. She will take every opportunity to drive wedges between men and women no matter the good of the country. The only thing that will matter is her identity politics.

                  sexual assault

                  It's not. You can try to kiss a woman and it is not assault. They are trying to make it assault but it is not. There is no allegation that he restrained a woman against her will or used physical force or psychological coercion.

                  They are trying to make it illegal for a man to approach a woman sexually if she decides RETROACTIVELY- even decades later(!!!)-that the advance was "unwanted." That is the master plan to fully solidify female power from dominance to complete mastery.

                  Try to kiss a girl. She turns away....YOU ARE GUILTY OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

                  Put your hand on a girls hip. She pulls away...YOU ARE GUILTY OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

                  RPS is exactly right. They are trying to make what Trump said/did into "sexual assault." If they succeed then no man will be safe anywhere, anytime. There will be paralyzing fear in all men at the mere thought of approaching a woman. Only true "Alphas" will have the confidence to approach women and it won't matter. They can be brought down decades later if they were to forward or if they talked trash on a blog.

                  That is the plan anyway. If Trump is elected they will be defeated and then they will cloister in the schools and journalism, waiting for the next opportunity to seize total power.

                  Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

                  [–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  The problem with this world is SJW. We need to find a final solution to this new problem.

                  [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (28 children)

                  Preposterous. You don't endorse Donald Trump. You endorse anti-SJWism in spite of Trump.

                  I'm not voting for Trump because of reasons that are extraneous to his intelligence and his character. I'm not going to take shit-slinging, which is 100% normal in our Presidential elections, and justify voting for someone who isn't a good choice.

                  Look beyond the moment. Donald Trump has no idea what he is doing. He does not understand geopolitics, the government, or the economy. He was one of the loudest birthers. He keeps harping on about manufacturing jobs that will be made obsolete in a few decades and globalization that is here to stay whether we like it or not. Electing a populist moron will only serve as fodder for the SJWs in the next round. Trump is NOT the answer.

                  I'm voting for Hilary Rodham Clinton. I have little reason to believe her comments about women are more than pandering. If they do manifest further, well, society isn't going to collapse. We will have the next election, hopefully with two better candidates.

                  [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

                  Technically the OG birther was on Clintons staff.

                  I do enjoy how you give Hillar the benefit of pandering, but offer no such leeway to Trump. Most are treating this election as an emotional vote on old school masculinity, and I'm not seeing any difference

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  Even if she isn't pandering on women's issues, I don't believe she could accomplish anything within four years that would doom men. Regardless, the antibodies against SJWism are building up. In a few years maybe we can elect an anti-SJW candidate who is actually intelligent.

                  [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                  It's an act. You merely have to watch his1993 senate speech to see him without bravado

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 3 points4 points  (12 children)

                  Look beyond the moment. Donald Trump has no idea what he is doing. He does not understand geopolitics, the government, or the economy.

                  Yes, because our government that has gotten into quagmire after quagmire understands? Do you even realize that the U.S. created ISIS? We have U.S. State Department paid and supplied militias in Syria battling Pentagon paid and supplied militias in Syria. Obama, Clinton, and the American deep state made this the status quo. Our foreign policy is an insane, psychotic, wasteful, irrational, evil joke right now, and Hillary Clinton will continue this.

                  DJT doesn't understand the economy? He's worth 5-10 Billion. He understands something. Google lottery winners and see how many people who win 10 million dollars end up broke in 5 years. Whatever DJT started out with, he has made it grow a thousand fold. And not by giving private speeches to Goldman Sachs.

                  HRC wants to strip Americans of their 2nd amendment right. When this happens say goodbye to the rest of our rights and any chance of stopping the tyranny that will instantly replace the shitty republic we already suffer from.

                  [–]Watitdoboo2 3 points3 points [recovered]

                  DJT doesn't understand the economy? He's worth 5-10 Billion. He understands something. Google lottery winners and see how many people who win 10 million dollars end up broke in 5 years. Whatever DJT started out with, he has made it grow a thousand fold. And not by giving private speeches to Goldman Sachs.

                  He's worth less than 4 billion by the most generous third party estimate (I personally believe he isn't a billionaire since it's mostly overvalued illiquid assets) and had he invested his inheritance from 1982 in the s&p he'd be worth about 13 billion. He knows fuck all about business or about anything. No businessmen respect him. He can't access credit without massive collateral. He's bankrupted too many companies.

                  He's complete garbage, he's not alpha, he is not a leader. Hillary has a bigger dick than he does.

                  What the fuck does any of this have to do with amoral sexual strategy? The guy is a bigger cuck than Bruce Jenner. Can we move on? He will lose and in a few months, most of the posts in this thread will be hilarious in retrospect if they aren't deleted by then.

                  I can't believe you were all hoodwinked by this total moron. I've lost respect for this place.

                  [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (8 children)

                  The world is composed of quagmires. It doesn't matter who you vote for, there will be quagmires. Get used to it.

                  Do you even realize that the U.S. created ISIS?

                  No we didn't. There were many groups opposing the Assad regime. ISIS used the chaos of the Syrian civil war to fill a power void in Eastern Syria and Northern Iraq.

                  We have U.S. State Department paid and supplied militias in Syria battling Pentagon paid and supplied militias in Syria. Obama, Clinton, and the American deep state made this the status quo. Our foreign policy is an insane, psychotic, wasteful, irrational, evil joke right now, and Hillary Clinton will continue this.

                  What would you prefer? Send boots on the ground and spend trillions of dollars and thousands of lives toward a peace that may not come? Do nothing, and have the Russian sphere of influence achieve its geopolitical goal of controlling and manipulating the price of oil?

                  DJT doesn't understand the economy? He's worth 5-10 Billion. He understands something. Google lottery winners and see how many people who win 10 million dollars end up broke in 5 years. Whatever DJT started out with, he has made it grow a thousand fold. And not by giving private speeches to Goldman Sachs.

                  Donald Trump fundamentally does not understand that manufacturing jobs are not coming back. American labor is competing in a global marketplace. Manual labor overseas is cheaper. Therefore, companies choose to manufacture goods outside of the country. Attempting to bring these jobs back would drastically reduce the efficiency of the American economy, raising the prices of goods and eliminating the economic gain of having the jobs here at home. Better to have Americans learn how to work high-skilled jobs and invest in temporary infrastructure jobs, which Hillary Clinton is doing.

                  We wouldn't even want those jobs if we could have them. Automation technology will make many of them obsolete, putting many people in the developing nations that depend on manufacturing out of work. By transitioning away from manufacturing, the nation as a whole is growing stronger, not weaker.

                  HRC wants to strip Americans of their 2nd amendment right. When this happens say goodbye to the rest of our rights and any chance of stopping the tyranny that will instantly replace the shitty republic we already suffer from.

                  Why can't civilians own surface to air missiles? Because it's dangerous for the general populace to have access to that kind of firepower. Lone wolves and small terrorist cells would undoubtedly use them to sow fear and instability within this nation.

                  Being in favor of more stringent gun control does not equate to wanting to strip America of its 2nd amendment rights.

                  [–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 1 point2 points  (7 children)

                  The world is composed of quagmires. It doesn't matter who you vote for, there will be quagmires. Get used to it.

                  As long as people like you think that sociopathic liars who "understand geopolitics" need to play the world like a chess board, then yes there will be. The US has no business in Syria.

                  We don't need to control Syria to keep Russia from controlling oil. What a bunch of horse shit. You just revealed that you know nothing about Syria.

                  Regarding gun control, here is your hall of fame. You must not have studied history at all. Only a well armed populace can defend against tyranny. I will also note that that is a very feminine political stance you have chosen to take. A self-sufficient man with a normal amount of testosterone is not afraid of guns, and doesn't willingly submit himself to be the bitch who needs police protection. It's usually low-T metro-fags who don't lift who demand the police and military be the only armed people.

                  These are also typically the same people who are OK with third-worlders invading their country and raping women with impunity--such as in Germany where there is strict gun control and the Muslims are cucking the locals.

                  [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

                  I will also note that that is a very feminine political stance you have chosen to take. A self-sufficient man with a normal amount of testosterone is not afraid of guns, and doesn't willingly submit himself to be the bitch who needs police protection. It's usually low-T metro-fags who don't lift who demand the police and military be the only armed people.

                  As long as people like you think that sociopathic liars who "understand geopolitics" need to play the world like a chess board, then yes there will be. The US has no business in Syria.

                  You imply that I'm a "low-T metro-fag" and then deny the cold reality of geopolitics. If you ask me, denying reality is a very un-masculine thing to do.

                  Tell me: What happens when a peace-loving population is duped by a power-hungry psychopath into giving him power? His nation could become quite aggressive very quickly, suddenly forcing every other nation to prepare a defense. This sort of thing is a regular historical phenomenon. Nations prepare for these contingencies, and thus we have geopolitics.

                  We don't need to control Syria to keep Russia from controlling oil. What a bunch of horse shit. You just revealed that you know nothing about Syria.

                  And why do YOU think that Russia is involved in Syria?

                  sociopathic liars

                  If your goal is to avoid sociopathic liars, Donald Trump is your worst bet. There is a good first-debate fact-checking thread in the neutral politics subreddit. Notice a trend?

                  Regarding gun control, here is your hall of fame.

                  Ironically, those leaders were either democratically elected or they were installed into power by armed militias. I.E., they rose to power by support of civilian populations.

                  There is a conversation to be made about where the lines should be drawn in terms of gun control, but one thing is certain: It should be drawn somewhere to protect from rogue elements within our borders. If domestic terrorists had access to higher-tech weaponry, they would use it.

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                    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                    I was referring to the subreddit of the name neutralpolitics. I can't link it here because of the rules.

                    [–]JohnnyRaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Yeah because all the masters that supposedly "understand" all those issues have done a great job lately.

                    [–]Wilreadit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Do you like Mohammed Ali? Do you venerate him?

                    [–]OmegaMan2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    Notice how anyone who threatens the power of the Cathedral is slandered with the most vile of accusations that is an offense of a sexual nature. Look at what happened to Bill Cosby for suggesting that blacks take some responsibility for the situation they find themselves in. Likewise Clarence Thomas was almost done in in the same way.

                    And for Bill Clinton it's like water off a duck's back.

                    [–]Profdiddy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    A word of caution. Any group that makes one wedge issue their core engages in identity politics. This kind of politics allows you to be led and abused like sheep. I am much more worried about geopolitical relationships and economic development than gender issues. I vote my wallet. Enjoy the decline.

                    [–]weezy_adams 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    It doesnt matter who you vote for. The trajectory of the country is wholly out of your control. That this is even posted here indicates a huge problem with motherfuckers failing to understand that you focus only on what you can control, and everything else be damned. Huge red pill fail. The only option is to refuse to vote and hit the gym. Is that not clear enough?

                    [–]Big_Daddy_PDX 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                    Sadly Trump has lost his own plot by continuing to fan the flames of his comments/accusers. He isn't passing shit tests at the moment. He's in DEER mode and needs to be in NEXT mode. instead of controlling the narrative or direction, he's wallowing in.
                    Here we are in another scenario where a timeline prevents us from addressing the women's complaints fully. I think those complaints need to be addressed, but the brisk of what Hillary could do with the SCOTUS is, in my view, a greater risk.

                    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                    Trump said: "They let us grab them by the pussy".

                    Let us. That means there was consent. How much of a dense cunt do you have to be to think this is in any way sexual assault???

                    [–]cuntevasion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                    The accusations of sexual assault are unfounded and convenient. People come out of the woodwork to accuse Trump of sexual assault years prior, but conveniently wait until right now to announce.

                    The argument that waiting to go public with these assaults somehow reduces the probability of the reports being true makes no sense. Assuming someone wants to get revenge on a person who assaulted them, it is obviously entirely logical to wait until a time when going public will do the most damage.

                    I walked in on a guy being raped (by a gay guy). Not hearsay or he-said/she-said, like I witnessed the rape and pulled the dude off (and out of) the victim while he was blacked out on a floor. The rapist is highly politically involved, and probably wants a career in elected office. His victim did not report the rape to police, because the victim didn't want to deal with the hassle of a police investigation etc etc for uncertain gain.

                    He also has every intention of going public with the story if the rapist ever becomes politically successful, because at that point the damage he could inflict would be worth the potential hassle of going public.

                    That is all completely sensible. If you want to get revenge on someone who raped you, you either report immediately to police while there's evidence, or you wait until the report will do maximum PR damage. Either way, the timing of the report has little to no relevance to how likely the story is to be true.

                    [–]Satou4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                    I mean, there's a moderate possibility that whoever becomes president will be impeached within the first year. This election season is really terrible.

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                      [–]Wilreadit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      You should have grabbed her by the pussy and then squirted hot DNA into her ass.

                      [–]A_favorite_rug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      By economic policy, what exactly do you mean by that?

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      It's nuts to think accusations can effect your life. For instance even if your completely acquitted of a rape or sexual assault charge your name is tarnished forever.

                      [–]Totsean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I don't post much, I just see what's current on TRP and see if it applies to me. This however does not apply to me so I will lay it out truthfully.

                      Both candidates are shit, worst of the worst when it comes to running for President. You may disagree with me but you know it.

                      I am astonished at the Election, you have one guy that can't keep his mouth shut, FOR FAKE SAKES MAN, can't you keep your temper in check, why do you have to act out, why can't you control yourself!!!!

                      It's like having mini tantrums. All he has to do is, be sensible, be rational and not listen to shitheads that have conspiracy theories pulled out of their ass and HE CAN EASILY WIN THIS SHIT!

                      But nope...

                      And then you have the evilest fucking bitch in the whole town, someone that has her pockets full and has ties to god knows how many organizations. She is a feminist to boot and not that good kind either.

                      She is going to keep on being a puppet and to make things worse will support the damn SJW narrative.

                      All in all it's a complete loss. If Trump wins, we may get to see something different, irrational, out of control, it might be for good or bad.

                      If Hillary wins, the same shit we see plus with more added power to the people that supported her.

                      They're both disasters, I wouldn't bet on them.

                      But if I have to vote.... if I really have to vote.

                      I like to live on the wild side, like to see the world burn, like to see how things fuck up. So, yeah Trump for sure, but only because it just might fuck USA enough that they will finally wake up and fix their shit.

                      I am in Philippines and we have DU30 here, that just cut ties from USA, and went to China. You know how crazy insane that move is, like freaking fuck me insane... yep that's Trump for you.

                      So, good luck guys. Win or Loss, it's going to be an interesting 4 years..

                      [–]Ounumen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      New women just came out yesterday. She realized she wasn't alone and the others gave her strength. Now gentleman we must white knight this women and believe every word she says. She has a vagina and that is the rule

                      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                      Trump has glimmers of things I would like in a candidate, but I don't think he's a good choice for president. You do you, though.

                      [–]bigcitytruth 6 points7 points  (3 children)

                      This election is a sham. It should've been Kasich versus Sanders. At least that would have been straight up legit debate on policy. Neither Trump or Clinton is fit for office.

                      I'm not here to get into the nitty-gritty details of foreign or economic policy, or discuss the best way to fix the healthcare situation in our country.

                      See, those little things that aren't a big deal to you are things I know a lot about. We pick presidents based on policy, not sexual strategy. Presidents sign or veto laws created by the legislature. They don't wave a wand to make the population alphas or betas. I respect the time you took to make this post, but it's reaching a bit far and distracts from the real conversation, as everyone's personal political views will validate everything from Trump's hair to Hillary's pantsuits. An endorsement on this sub will gain us absolutely nothing.

                      Still, I have to say Trump himself is an excellent character study. He has flaws (which I have noted before), but he has many traits of a natural alpha. THAT'S what we should be talking about. This was true EVEN BEFORE HE RAN. In fact, a very old book by Mystery (or Matador, can't remember) back in the old PUA days mentions Trump and how he behaves.

                      [–]Modredpillschool[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

                      I'm not naive enough to think either candidate will make or break the country on these topics. But I do know that Obama influenced a lot of our culture's attitudes that we're experiencing now. And I'm not sure what country we'll be in if we have 4-8 more years of Obama 2.0.

                      On policy, one thing I'm very interested to see overturned is Obamacare. There's a lot more to go into, but that's a start.

                      [–]bigcitytruth 5 points6 points  (1 child)

                      See that's the thing. I like this kind of debate. I'd love to go into the pros and cons of the ACA, from both the left and right points of view. But TRP is not the place to get quality contributors to the discussion. I have my other political-wonk username and sub for that.

                      [–]growingstronk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      I would love to discuss politics with you. I'm rather young, but I'd like to think I have my head screw on right.

                      With that said though, it's hard to sort with all the information being thrown everywhere. Would you mind if I pm'd you?

                      [–]blackjackANDplates 5 points6 points  (2 children)

                      I want you to shout so loud, so that everyone who disregarded you, everyone who let you down, everybody who betrayed your family ... everybody who ignored your worries and pleas.. I want you to shout so loud that it quivers the conference tables in Washington, D.C.*

                      It's time our voices bring fear into their empty hearts.

                      MAKE MEN GREAT AGAIN

                      [–]al032184 18 points19 points  (26 children)

                      I think you're wrong on him. He's an awful person, not some kind of messiah or representative of "real men" or the US or anti-establishment, as has been the claim of others. He's just a downright scumbag who has been scraping up the vote of spiteful people in this country who, despite having legitimate gripes, are making a huge mistake with this prick.

                      [–]Modredpillschool[S] 19 points20 points  (18 children)

                      By all means, make a reasoned argument.

                      [–]dinosauralienspirits 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                      Donald Trump tried to scam me in 2012 with a company called ACN. Ever since that day I knew he was not to be trusted. You will regret trusting this man and you are foolish to do so, given all of the scams that he has been involved in.

                      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (4 children)

                      Yeahp, Trump is pretty shitty. But him winning is much better than Hillary. If any 3rd party candidates could cross 15, maybe even 10% then maybe there is reason to vote them. But they cannot.

                      [–]al032184 7 points8 points  (2 children)

                      The truly fucked up thing is that there are probably enough disenfranchised voters from both major parties to make a difference that are saying that exact same thing, and would vote third party, but they all think it would just be irrelevant.

                      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Quite possible really. It is also in the medias/those in powers best interest to make 3rd parties seem weaker than they are.

                      [–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      if it was trump's plan all long to disgust me into voting for shillary, mission accomplished. I was actually considering him at one point but jesus fucking christ people can't you see through him yet?

                      [–]curiousthis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                      Third parties crossing 5% will make them eligible for federal funding, and they can then be part of the presidential debates (which are currently only restricted to D & R candidates).

                      [–]beginner_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      These ridiculous vague sexual assault claims just show how desperate the establishment wants to prevent Trump from becoming president. I would vote Trump if I could (not US).

                      [–]wanderer779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                      Yeah it is funny how quick they jumped on the sexual assault thing. To be clear he may have committed sexual assault, but we have no proof. We have a tape which talks about women consenting to sexual advances. And we have a bunch of women saying he assaulted them, but no actual proof. And then we have a tape where he makes a joke about dating a 10 year old when she is old enough, which was awkward as hell and probably worthy of a punch in the mouth from her father, but still not sexual assault.

                      I think Trump is weird and crazy and I'm not going to vote in this election, but it does give me some satisfaction and hope that there are millions of men out there who recognize wtf is going on. Even if he loses, which he probably will, the war on this BS is still on.

                      [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 9 points10 points  (24 children)

                      I can't vote for a candidate who thinks burning coal is better then using renewable energy.

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                        [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        If Clinton wins, most likely the Senate and House could see a shift with more Democrats. Does this mean Clinton will have free range and pass everything and anything she wants? Most likely not. But if President Obama could deliver on about 70% of his campaign promises with a Republican majority in the House and Senate, I'm sure more Clean Energy legislation will get legislation.

                        [–]the_STD_fairy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                        Let's focus on keeping civilization around first, and then we can worry about things like men's rights. Changing pc/censorship culture is only a matter of changing people's opinions, which could happen overnight if enough people cared. Climate change is rapidly evolving into a monster that we won't remotely have the capability to deal with, strictly in terms of the laws of physics.

                        [–]CuckedByTRUMP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Or stop Hillary from starting war with Russia like the leaks show they are trying to do? How is that not more important?

                        [–]blackjackANDplates 3 points4 points  (4 children)

                        Gues what: China does not give a fuck. Russia does not give a fuck. The whole renewable energy thing is a money sack for the democrats used as an excuse to transfer taxpayers money to the lobbied "green energy" companies.

                        Coal energy brings jobs, renewable energy takes taxpayers money.

                        [–]the_STD_fairy 9 points10 points  (2 children)

                        "China’s renewable energy sector is growing faster than its fossil fuels and nuclear power capacity. In 2015 China became world's largest producer of photovoltaic power, at 43 GW installed capacity.[1][2] China also led the world in the production and use of wind power and smart grid technologies, generating almost as much water, wind, and solar energy as all of France and Germany's power plants combined."


                        [–]blackjackANDplates 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                        That means shit. China can afford it due to it's cheap manufacturing and slave political regime. It's production is higher but it's nothing compared to the non-green energy it produces.


                        How will Hillary convince China, India and Russia to produce green energy? War? Economical sanctions are out of the question. USA will get cucked.

                        [–]ManCubEagle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                        Wow the country with the world's largest population and economy (not per capita, but gross size) finally surpassed other countries?

                        Do you realize the populations of France and Germany combined isn't even close to half of China?

                        It shouldn't surprise you that 10 people eat more food than 1, and if it does then I'm sorry. Pretty shit argument if you ask me.

                        [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        First read this: http://fortune.com/2016/01/12/solar-jobs-boom/

                        China didn't give a fuck before but they are aggressively working to fix their air quality. I am not quite familiar with what Russia wants to do but most likely they will copy us somehow and then claim they did it first.

                        Coal and oil companies lobby the fuck out of Congress so you might want to re-think on putting them on a pedestal. Renewable energy is a coming storm, technology will get cheaper which in turn makes it cheaper for the consumer. Cars will drive themselves one day too. I don't discouraged by people like you so keep the comments coming.

                        [–]CuckedByTRUMP 1 point2 points  (3 children)

                        Well then enjoy your nuclear war with Russia because you are so hung up on being SJW for the environment.

                        [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                        Yeah fuck me right? I want a cleaner environment because I enjoy clean air and normal weather patterns.

                        [–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                        Check the science. We do t have the capacity, and the rare metals needed aren't free either.

                        It's not so cut and dry, not without nuclear

                        [–]IDefyAxioms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        But that's never going to happen. You're trying to propose something that's going to be stricken down based on the word "nuclear." The same people who are anti-vax, anti-GMO, anti-science granola idiots will rally against Nuclear Energy because of unfortunate incidents in the past.

                        [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                        It's absolutely not so cut and dry. When you say capacity, I don't quite follow. Are you talking about capacity to power every single home in the US tomorrow? Certainly not. There will definitely be a gradual transition.

                        [–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                        As In surface area. There's only so much sunshine.

                        Plus, you need base. Wind and solar are sporadic

                        [–]This1sMyWorkAccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                        It will have to be a combination of renewable energy and storage such as batteries. Both of which still need lots of refinement.

                        [–]Kanyeisindebt 14 points15 points  (3 children)

                        They are both terrible candidates but seriously Donald trump is NOT fit to be in office. This "war on man" issue does NOT overlook other polices that need to be looked at. Jesus Christ if your serious about voting for trump your misinformed. Crooked Hillary is terrible don't get me wrong but Trump is not a viable candidate. It's clearly evidence in the debate and the way he carries himself. Sure he's aplha for all y'all idiots too concern aboout and are willing to overlook his other actions. The media is definitely crushing trump but he's making it WAY to easy. I wish they focused on Hillary more but at this point, trump can not be able to win.

                        [–]throwawayyourliberty 14 points15 points  (2 children)

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                          [–]alpha_n3rd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          he's a thin skinned assclown without a modicum of self control, respect, honor, or any other positive quality other than macho bravado. He is alpha, in his way, but he's not the alpha I aspire to be.

                          [–]BOSpecial 5 points6 points  (4 children)

                          Typically, where there is smoke, there is fire. One or two accusations could be faked, but there are simply too many of them coming out now. Women that he has been with are not coming to his defense, which indicates that this is his typical behavior. That type of behavior is unacceptable. Imagine if FDR or George Washingon had that type of behavior prior to becoming presidents - it would have never happened.

                          In my opinion, anyone who falls for Trump will fall for anything. He's just a salesman.

                          People on here don't know what common decency is; they think Red Pill is to act like an uncivilized idiot.

                          [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                          Funny, they said the same thing about MJ back in the 90s. Turns out it's been largely untrue, he never did anything, only sociopath parents hell bent on getting paid.

                          Repeat something enough, and people believe it. Cosby was a rich, wealthy man, girls threw themselves at him, and now that they can get some fame, will claim he sneaked into their bedroom and grabbed em.

                          Koby, Tiger, Arnold... Ever notice it's never deadbeats, but only famous people under the spotlight?

                          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          I think that we'll see more experiences like this in the next few years. It worked against Bill Cosby, it's working against Trump, and it'll keep happening until people realize it's a cheap trick. Bunch of women come out of nowhere decades later to accuse somebody of assault... It's too convenient.

                          [–]ThatHoeOverDere[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          Quite crazy isn't it? I mean these women are coming out after YEARS of waiting. Let's not forget that their story matches EXACTLY what was said on tape, wow! Amazing what a coincidence! Also note they made these claims AFTER hearing what was said on tape. The odds are totally one in a million of this happening right?? /s

                          [–]Skias 4 points5 points  (4 children)

                          So... You vote for Trump on the sole merit of him being an outcast and refuse to debate his multiple bankruptcys. What about his absolute inability to debate with any of other nation without offending them?

                          [–]stemgang 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                          Thank you for using the phrase, "war on men." We all feel the noose tightening around our necks, and our enemies have the gall to pretend there is a "war on women."

                          There will be no one on our side, not even ourselves, if we do not recognize what is being done to us.

                          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          That's why we're here. We're restoring identity and sanity for men. Myself included. I'd be lost without trp.

                          [–]Novembercriminal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                          There is a war on men. Thank you for using those words because that is exactly what is going on. We are being challenged for what we are, what we believe a man should be and now, as many others commented, our right to openly talk to each other as fellow men. The worst part? I see many male friends on Facebook and social media actually supporting this annihilation openly. It disgusts me deeply.

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                          [–]TRP VanguardWhisper 21 points22 points  (3 children)

                          He has no plan to reduce college costs.

                          The use of inefficient and expensive universities as job training programs is the problem here.

                          "Breadth requirements" are nothing but welfare programs for highly trained but economically useless academics, and they turn what would be two years of effective, focused career training into a massive waste of time and money.

                          And that's if you're majoring in something real, not something stupid.

                          The "everyone goes to college" plan is a stupid, failed plan. And it's being propped up as an excuse to allow banks that pay bribes to the Clinton Machine and other beltway insiders to continue to sucker young people and put them in debt for decades, as well as rob the taxpayer with federal loan guarantee programs.

                          So I am surprised that a smart businessman is not planning to bail out a pyramid scheme? No, I am not.

                          [–]Rommel0502 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                          You want to reduce college costs? Answer is beyond simple. College costs have increase in almost lock step with the advent of federal funding for it. One more time politicians have ignored market forces - you increase the amount of money chasing a good or service, and the cost of that service is going to increase.

                          Want to control college costs? Stop the government from throwing money at colleges. IMO, only fund value creating majors like STEM, but since that will benefit more men, it will never happen.

                          [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

                          As a Canadian, Hillaries policies will benefit me greatly. But I'm not selfish, I know the entire rural and lower 3 quintiles of income in your country aren't going to benefit from a fully globalized US.

                          Either way, Between the bush/clinton handoffs for the last 30 years, you know exactly what H dog will provide. Continued musical chair policitcs. Hopefully the music doesn't stop on her watch, she can continue to blame bush for what he did 12 years ago.

                          [–]Rufferto_n_Groo 8 points9 points  (2 children)

                          Some basic reading on your part would have saved me the trouble of reading your post.


                          But if you're a paid troll, well...

                          [–]thetotalpackage7 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          Buddy, college costs are out of control because the federal government decided any moron with a pulse can get a loan to go to school to get a worthless degree. This allowed schools to raise their tuitions at will to enrich their administrators and liberal teachers.

                          The democratic party answer of student loan forgiveness or only paying back a percentage of what you earn with further compound the problem.

                          And Trumps economic policies are not idiotic. The NAfta deal and proposed TPP have and will be a continued disaster for middle class workers. Our manufacturing base is evaporating thanks to those deals. Its great in theory in the sense that those menial jobs will be replaced with high tech, but do you think a plurality of Muricans have the intellectual capacity to become software engineers and bio-pharma workers? Nope.

                          [–]blackjackANDplates 8 points9 points  (8 children)

                          The problem is there are more important things than the war on men.

                          It's like you did not even read the OP. You are on The Red Pill:

                          The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

                          [–]jackandjill22 7 points8 points  (6 children)

                          Dude Hillary Clinton is a disaster corrupt, Warhawks version of Obama. Hillary has openly mocked Sanders supporters calling them "Children of the Great Recession" for expecting free-Healthcare/University education.

                          [–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (5 children)

                          trump has openly mocked everybody but his base; it's like he WANTS to lose

                          [–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (4 children)

                          Do you have any idea how Fucking corrupt Hillary Clinton is?

                          [–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                          yes. yes I do.

                          why do you think trump is any better? because he told you he is? he's a manhattan real estate exec for fucks sake. he could sell you chumps the brooklyn bridge.

                          [–]jackandjill22 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                          No. Trumps like Sarah Palin except less dumb. He's a maverick. He's smashing through everything. Hillary Clintons so Fucking corrupt. It's mind boggling how corrupt she is. Have you read the Fucking Podesta emails? The bulletpoints alone are awful.

                          [–]alpha_n3rd 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                          I was just flipping through them. Nothing very surprising. I think the media has covered them pretty accurately.

                          Trumps irresponsible stoking of fears of voter fraud has completely disqualified him for any public office in my mind. We all ate shit when W won his second term. Trump is too big a baby to admit he fucked up and if there's bloodshed over that fuck you and every other trump supporter.

                          [–]Modredpillschool[S] 14 points15 points  (17 children)

                          He has no plan to reduce college costs.

                          You know, a wise man once said:

                          "If you can't afford it, don't buy it."

                          I know a few people who live by that rule. They live well.

                          Hopefully you're not one of those kids who thinks he deserves debt forgiveness because the colleges are so expensive.

                          [–]GlassDelivery 15 points16 points  (2 children)

                          And that's a fair view, I just don't share it. The whole country benefits when more of us are skilled labor and therefore more productive/higher tax base. Basically making college cheaper pays dividends in the future as an investment by the government. Far too much of this stuff is ideological, I'm a fan of policy that has an economic output as the main factor.

                          Does this social policy save (or produce) money in the long run and do good at the same time? Then it's a good policy. If not, it's probably a waste of taxpayer money. I'm all for helping abused kids (or poor kids even, not their fault their parents are fuck ups) but only with policy designed to work. For example, if some fuckup parents have fuckup kids that are never going to get a college degree, we should teach them home ec, personal finance (balancing a checkbook), and a basic trade like carpentry or mechanic in high school. I think that's an investment that pays for itself. Sending stupid kids to college is just bad policy.

                          I understand those who slant one way or the other, but blanket policy doesn't work for me. It's one of the few things I actually like about Clinton, her policy is designed to actually work rather than be an ideological selling point.

                          Clinton's policy is- If you want to go to college, you've gotta work 10 hours a week with the government keeping those wages.

                          That's my type of solution to weed out the free ride asshats, everyone works for college or pays for it.

                          I'm guessing I'm the minority here, but I figured I'd share my reasoning since far too few seem to be able to.

                          [–]FriedHayek 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                          The whole country benefits when more of us are skilled labor and therefore more productive/higher tax base.

                          The majority of university degrees are neither skilled or productive. Haven't you read what weird bullshit the single women study?

                          [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                          There is a reason s4p is dead