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ScienceYou guys suck at Tinder. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by 1constructiveasshole

I hear a lot of guys complain that Tinder is difficult for the average guy. It isn't. We all know that girls swipe right or left on Tinder based on a 2 second glance at your first photo. Most of your first photos suck ass. How do I know? A bunch of you sent me your pics in a previous thread I made offering to retouch them, so I saw a bunch of examples.

If you are chad bod, seriously cut with visible abdominal muscles, then go for the shirtless mirror selfie.

As for everybody else,

-Wear a suit, stare into the distance like you're a Fortune 500 CEO being interviewed for a Forbes cover. All girls will see dollar signs. THIS SHOULD BE A PROFESSIONAL-QUALITY PHOTO for maximum results. Go pay a real photographer the hundred bucks. Tell them this is what you want. Do not look into the lens, it makes you look desperate. Do not smile. Thousand yard stare shows off your manly jawline. http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52d2ebb3e4b06f22d60562c5/5459180ae4b0168a2765aad6/54592084e4b0d8d8aa3c5e20/1415127179969/Adam-Jacobs-Mens-Fashion-Photography-Model-Suit-Photography-Freddie.jpg

-Cute pet picture shirtless or wearing a t-shirt that "accidentally" shows off your biceps. You can smile at the pet in this one. Good conversation starter - cute dog, mine's named Rover, how about yours? http://imgfave-herokuapp-com.global.ssl.fastly.net/image_cache/1344082221598257.jpg

-Candid picture with friends - shows you're cool and hang out with hot people. The kind of company she will join if she fucks you. Even if these are your relatives, or an old photo, or strangers, it doesn't matter. http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/54809/54809,1307507475,1/stock-photo-group-of-young-people-enjoy-summer-party-at-the-beach-on-beautiful-sunset-78816610.jpg

-Preselection picture with hot girl(s), cropped as if to look like you tried to crop her out (but didn't). Don't use Hooters girls or promo models, it's obvious you just asked for a pic and will work against you. Needs to look like a normal hot girl who's actually into you. If you don't have one, literally just go up to any hot girl in a crowded bar and ask for a photo, "I'm trying to show my buddy who's at home what's he's missing ;) " THat move won't get you laid right then with that one girl, but you will use the pic to catch actual pussy later. http://thedudes.club/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/tom-ford-eyewear-2010-spring-campaign-1.jpg

-If you're 6'0 or taller, (really 5'10 or taller and DGAF about lying), the first line of your About Me should be your height. 6'0. On a line by itself.

These four photos, correctly lit and shot to make you look attractive, will get you matches on Tinder and get you laid, almost regardless of what you look like. I've done it for myself and for all my divorced friends and I get laid all the time from Tinder. I'm probably a 5/10 in the face but an 8/10 in the body.


[–]Stythe 276 points277 points  (61 children)

I laughed at the hight bit. I remember an ex of mine trying to set up threesoms online when I was mega BP. She put my hight as 6"1. I told her I was 5"11 and she said "Not on here you aren't."

It's funny in retrospect, now that I understand.

[–][deleted] 176 points177 points  (31 children)

females have 0 perspective on dimensions, i've had long term gf's think my dick was legit 10 inches long (lol wat)

[–][deleted] 78 points79 points  (8 children)

I once had an ex tell me she had been with 3 boyfriends (at different times) who had between 10 and 12 inch dicks. This was a late 20s/early 30s woman who wasn't trying to shit test me as far as I know, and honestly thought that was the actual measurement. I asked her to guess mine and she said 9 or 10.

[–]Gawernator 168 points169 points  (4 children)

lol. Your story seems pretty common. When I'm with my GF, I have a 8 inch dick. If we breakup, it's 4 inches. lol

[–]afkb39sdfb 85 points86 points  (2 children)

When I'm with my GF, I have a 8 inch dick. If we breakup, it's 4 inches.

After a relationship women just do those things to try and hurt you. Same reason they fight for the family dog in divorce. They don't care about the dog, they know YOU care about the dog and want to take it from you just to hurt you.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I realized my ex was doing this shit it became comical. One time she said I had a big dick but didn't know how to use it. I basically took it as a confirmation that my dick isn't small

[–]yamehameha 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She takes half as per her training.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's just a general rule. If she's into you, you can do no wrong and anything positive is amplified. It's hilarious how many women say they don't like X in a guy...until they do.

Of course, the reverse is also true. If she's not into you then you are just barely above Gollum in terms of redeeming qualities.

[–]WendigoWood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The reason for this is because guys TELL them that their dicks are 8-10 inches!

Women have no depth perception.

[–]toneroma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heeeeey I had the exact same thing happen.

An ex (with a claimed n-count of 3) told me she'd never been with a guy with less than a 10 inch dick, and she couldn't imagine sleeping with a guy who was less, and didn't think she would like it. I said something like, "You screamed so loud last night that you probably woke the neighbors from my considerably less than 10 inch dick."

She laughed but said in all seriousness: "Fuck you, you're the biggest I've ever had." Note that I would describe myself as "perfectly well-endowed" vs "hung", and I don't even approach 10 inches. Most importantly, I am certainly long enough to bruise her cervix in multiple positions. I pointed this out to her, and asked if she was able take these other guys balls deep and she say, "Yeah, like I said, you're the biggest I've ever had - nobody else has ever hit my cervix like you do, either"

To the best of my knowledge, despite my efforts to convince her that she has almost certainly never had anything close to a 10 inch cock, she still believes that mine is 11 inches.

She would not measure it. I asked her to go ahead and do it.

[–]notmyusualreddit 119 points120 points  (7 children)

Q: Why are girls so bad at estimating distance? A: Because their whole life they've been told 6" is actually 8.

EDIT: Warning: Reddit admins deleted me after 2 years of posting, even with current gold on my account, just because I posted a link to a youtube account that was easily available if you took a name news organizations were giving out and typed it into google yourself. The bias against Trump and the_donald is real.

BUT, the reddit morons forgot to lock out EDITING your previous posts as part of the permanent ban.

[–]ItsaSimulation 15 points15 points [recovered]

[–]-cookie-monsta- 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Well that was really fucking cool

[–]rubdub101 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I legitimately lol'd at this

[–][deleted] 37 points38 points  (1 child)

If they're into you they'll think you're tall and your dick is huge. I've had so many girls tell me I'm tall. I'm totally average height for men in my country and for some reason tend to end up with women of above average height (but not taller than me).

Like everything else, dimensions are governed by their feelings.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Like everything else, dimensions are governed by their feelings.

bingo, that's exactly it lol

[–]TheRedStoic 19 points20 points  (0 children)

A feminine size measurement is directly correlated to desire.

They truly fail at empirical spaciotemporal measurements.

Driving jokes exist for a very good reason. (no exteroception)

[–]WhySoRuff 106 points107 points  (4 children)

No spatial skills, thats why they are relatively worse drivers and suck at STEM.

[–]_the_shape_ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Yes, and many do not seem to rely on numbers to explain things.

He's not 6'2", he's "suUper tall!"

They also don't give directions using numbers, it's not "turn left on 34th st, go down three blocks and make a right on "Chad-AF Blvd., my house is 3501", no, it's "go down until you see the Walmart, then keep going until you pass the tall trees, my house will be right there."

Rare too will be the woman who uses "North" or "West" to describe which direction to go in.

It's as if the typical woman is "anti-precision"

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why are women bad drivers?

Most men tell them this <hand gesture> is 10 inches

[–]whitespades -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If Asians are really good at STEM, then why are they worse in driving?

[–]WhiteNitro69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Confirmed, had a chick who said I MUST be nine inches. I almost wanted to show her a ruler so she could see how crazy that was, but then realized its better to just let her believe that.

[–][deleted] 8 points8 points

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[–]coffee_and_lumber 17 points17 points [recovered]

I've found if you have a big dick in a small town, your reputation will precede you, depending on the mouthiness of your conquests.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

[–]NakedAndBehindYou 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The OkCupid blog said that male height is one of the most common lies in a dating profile. Their entire male userbase on average collectively adds about 2 inches to their height.

[–]PDshotME 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I had a girl look over my Tinder profile once trying to get her gut reaction on things and the first thing she said was "why do you not have your height listed on here. You know that's the first thing that girls look for right after the pic"

I had no clue but I'm 6'1 and ever since I put it in there I've had a lot more matches using the exact same photos.

[–]flyinglime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm 5'8 and I slay on tinder. Literally matching with 8's and 9's and actually got a couple to come straight over. I'm pretty fit, and took a well lit posed shirtless pic (on tripod not selfie) that's been getting me much more matches. I also only swipe on girls my age or lower. I'm 22, and 19 and 20 year olds are so easy compared to the older ones. But yea... Be attractive gets me the match, but the wit gets them in your bed.

[–]Ponson 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I still don't understand why height is important

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Me either. Especially when most chicks are like 5',2" - 5',5".

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Evolutionary stuff. Girls use a guy's height as a validation of their own social status. Tall guys can see threats coming sooner; having a tall boyfriend says to her that she's worth protecting.

[–]Burn_The_Thunder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My theory is that evolutionarily, it provides better protection and safety.

[–]Boozt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is actually why. Best chance for offspring to survive; as well as protection/safety.

[–]conspirized 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Another note on height: as someone who is 6' 4" I actually lie DOWN. 6'2" seems to be the magic number, any higher and it seems like they assume you're full of shit. Something to consider for my fellow tall guys.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 7 points8 points  (7 children)

You can get away with listing 6'4 if your photos clearly show you dwarfing the people around you. Especially other dudes. Otherwise, yeah lie shorter.

[–]annospig 17 points18 points  (1 child)

As a man who is 5'5", I'm legitimately jealous of you right now. I can study this trp all I want, but I'm still not going to get taller.

Edit: The problem isn't with ladies; it's with other men. As a short guy, making it clear I won't take shit requires more outright aggression.

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[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

[–]garlicextract 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You've given plenty of advice to the 6'4+ crew. What's your advice to short brahs? You've given plenty of financial advice to millionaires so to speak, now spread the wealth to those who actually need it.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use photos with much shorter people in them than you (shorter girls for example, or shorter siblings, or little camp kids/students/etc). Pick photos that avoid doorways and obvious references for your height. Don't put your height on your profile. Look taller and let her assume that until you meet, then game her until she doesn't care.

[–]conspirized 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lie, and say it's what the doctor told you when you were 14.

[–]WendigoWood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I laughed at a number of things here, it was quite amusing particularly the last photo.

[–]ShavedApel -4 points-3 points  (5 children)

why is height so important? I have never cared how tall a woman is or my guy friends, must be my solipsism. I'm 5'10 and in america some consider this short.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

5'10" is considered "average height" in America.

[–]acetylcysteine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's "important" for women...

[–]whyalwaysm3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but Trump also has a chance to be the next President in America too... I think you know where I'm going with this.

[–]venicerocco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Healthy genes and / or big penis implication.

[–]Senior ContributorOmLaLa 78 points79 points  (13 children)

I hear a lot of guys complain that Tinder is difficult for the average guy. It isn't.

Tinder's a beauty contest for guys. Be prettier than the guy next to you and you win.

Most of your first photos suck ass.

Your profile pic's your thesis. A crap thesis leaves the whole book unread.

Great post u/constructiveasshole.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 105 points106 points  (20 children)

Your thread reads as if:

  1. Be attractive
  2. Don't be unattractive
  3. Have these 4 pictures showing off 1 & 2 above.

Anyone can use the 4 picture approach you laid out above, but guys that are fat, short, ugly, etc are going to have a fraction of the success you are, even when the pictures are done properly. Just the way it is.

My advice for those reading this thread is to follow his suggestions to a T, but don't get your hopes up. Some of you WILL find success and others will not. Such is life.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 45 points46 points  (10 children)

If you're overweight or scrawny, your chances of landing a worthwhile chick are slim to begin with, anyways.

Such people shouldn't even bother with tinder; they should be full monk mode, hitting the gym and adjusting their diet to achieve a worthwhile fitness goal where women get the tingles from seeing your body alone.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Honestly, gym is always the answer. You aren't having success online? shut it down for a few months. Get fit. Try again.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It really is; your SMV is most immediately affected by physique above all else, though I'd say that game/being well-groomed in tandem with this effectively make the holy trinity to fuck any woman.

When I used to be fat no woman would so much as throw a look in my general direction. Nowdays they're flirting with me left and right, and I occasionally even get catcalled on the street by girls in groups.

[–]sir_wankalot_here 20 points21 points  (5 children)

An online marketing campaign is viewed as successful if it has a 1/50 conversion rate. They run countless experiments on different headlines, different photos etc.

So ultimately it is a numbers game. So basically if you are sitting around doing nothing mess around with a social app. So for the initial contact spend limited resources, if it isn't going anywhere stop chatting with her.

On these types of apps you can get women talking about AF/BB first hand. Usually their profile says stuff like "wants only serious relationship"," no players " that sort of thing. So I would talk to chicks, they would show me pictures of the stuff guys bought them, tell me what a gentleman he is etc. In two cases guys sent these women $1K worth of stuff over a 3 to 6 month period and did not even get a boob shot. Meanwhile the same chicks where sending me pics of her boobs and pussy.

Basically you have to figure out what works for you and make a "brand". My case father figure, mysterious and domination is what works. Try new things all the time, most importantly have fun.

So with the women getting sent stuff by guys, I didn't believe it. So I told her you are full of shit. She then took pictures of the box, showed the shipping invoice and all the items.

[–]aherne18 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So ultimately it is a numbers game.

But why not protect your ego and feed on women around instead of going to the very place where your success will be at its absolute minimal?

[–]sir_wankalot_here 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you ego needs protecting, then you have to work on IDGAF and outcome independence.

to the bert place your success will be at its absolute minimal?

Let's use the 1/50 number to illustrate a point. If each engagement costs you 30 seconds that means for an investment of 25 minutes you have one success.

[–]Gunnilingus 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He addresses all of those, except for being fat. If you're short, lie. If you're ugly, make the best of a bad situation with good quality photos. If you're fat, you're on this sub so you already know to go into monk mode and stop being such a fat faggot because fat faggots don't get pussy, shockingly. That said you're more or less right. Tinder is easy mode pussy IF you can put yourself into the top 20% of men category (in the minds of the women using the app) with 5 photos and a line of text. If you can't, you're screwed because I guarantee you 90+% of the women on tinder are matching with at least a few of the top 20% of men who are just trying to fuck with minimal effort. I know this, because while I match with 7s and 8s galore because I'm tall attractive and muscular, I'll just as soon bang the 6s and even 5s i match with because it's so fucking easy, they don't expect me to put in any effort, and they're incredibly eager to please because they know how out of their league I am. I don't go on tinder with the express purpose of banging the hottest girl I can find...I go on tinder because it's 5pm on a Sunday and I want to line up some pussy by 10.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This will be proportionate, sure. But well shot photos can make anybody like 1 or 2 SMV higher than they really are. So if you're naturally a 4, a good photo can make you look like a 6.

If you're massively overweight, those guys should be in the gym, not on Tinder.

If you're short, use pics shot from below that accidentally make you look taller. Use pics where you aren't standing next to a tall person. There's no reference for height on Tinder except what's in your photo. Use that to your advantage.

[–]notmyusualreddit 80 points81 points  (1 child)

My favorite tinder truth comes from the fact that one of my three pictures on tinder is me at 19. I'm 31. I've had tindet dates say they're so glad I look like my pictures. I'd like to see a woman try that.

EDIT: Warning: Reddit admins deleted me after 2 years of posting, even with current gold on my account, just because I posted a link to a youtube account that was easily available if you took a name news organizations were giving out and typed it into google yourself. The bias against Trump and the_donald is real.

BUT, the reddit morons forgot to lock out EDITING your previous posts as part of the permanent ban.

[–]romanmoses 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It seems to me that white women age much worse than other races. Unfortunate considering white women culture these days.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP 37 points38 points  (0 children)

All those tinder basics summed up nicely. Much of this also applies to online dating in general. See OmLaLa's guide as the gold standard for that.

[–]metallica11 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Funny, when tinder first hit mainstream I told everyone:

  • 1 looks matter the most and that, because of #1,
  • 2 there are going to be services popping up to optimize your tinder pictures (not bio), to the point that professional pictures costing 1-2 hundred bucks are going to start being the standard.

Basically, guys getting glamour shots for women. We have been reduced to pages in a fashion magazine women shop for. THINK ABOUT IT. You better bet that these photo optimization services are going to start competing with each other.

People laughed at me and called me ridiculous, but look what is happening, here is my (slightly hyperbolic) prediction of the future. don't laugh - it may actually happen.

"Thank you sir for signing up for DatingOptimize, the worlds #1 service provider for optimization and complete revamp of looks, reaching 100 million in revenue and providing a 50% increase in matches guaranteed for over 10 million customers. You have signed up for the 2,000 dollar complete photo package, which is the our most popular product" Your consultation will start off with a complete 3D physical recreation of your physical profile and other attributes such as skin complexion/eye color etc. We will then perform any possible enhancements to your profile to optimize desirable traits such as increased shoulder width, jaw augmentation. Of course, these modifications will be performed through photo enhancement, although we do offer a premium package where we perform physical modifications as well. We will then supply you with a fashion consultant to provide you with the correct attire, posture, and photo environment that are proven to elicit the most positive response in the opposite sex. As always, biography write ups will be provided free of charge, as they are proven to be the least important factor in mate selection"

Meanwhile: the future dating service for women reads as:

"Thank you for signing up for PureAdonis, the worlds #1 service provider for selecting the most suitable partner for women. Gone are the days of perusing through hundreds of matches and messages through all the "boring" guys. With this service, we take the burden of selection out of your hands and ensure only the highest status men get to interact with you. Sick of men less than 6'0" contacting you? We'll filter them out. Sick of men making less than 100,000$ contacting you? we'll filter them out you. Our adonis template matching algorithm will find the perfect candidates based on our auto-physical attribute filter that sorts through over 100 million available online profiles and match you with the ones you find the most sexy. As you know, since only the same 1% of men get selected out of the 100 million online profiles by all women, we have auto-filter the remaining lower 99% automatically and constantly update our filter as womyns' needs change. you won't to have bother with anything BUT the cream of the crop. We also provide complimentary real time pregnancy monitoring to eliminate any "issues" you have with the men you are with, and of course ensure that every guy you are matched with has a time slot available for you through our "alphasharing" scheduling program

[–]sassypaella 14 points15 points  (2 children)

That sounds pretty much like paying for coaching/PUA advice.

[–]metallica11 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Correct, but on steroids. Men are essentially turning into a catalog selection where you have to "sell yourself" - the PUA coaching etc was the start, molding aspects of your personality and being to be the most attractive. In my opinion, it is only going to get more extreme.

[–]dingman58 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Men always have, and will continue to, sell themselves. Those with premium product have it a little easier. Those without, can make up for it by becoming better salesmen

[–]lemurmort 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I tried paying a guy 5 bucks in Bitcoin to make my profile picture have more muscles, but I ended up looking like a shitty anime character

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

That makes me cringe. If you want, PM it to me and I'll see if I can help. I don't charge for that shit

[–]lemurmort 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a pic from on cycle now, so that won't be necessary. Thanks though

[–]redpillspeeddate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is essentially what high end match making is. Its been around for decades. Many guys pay 25k+ for these services.

[–]99_Problem 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's making a killing ($$$$) on both ends of this bullshit. Genius.

[–]FamineX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are 100% right, sir. This is what the Internet does to us.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 15 points15 points [recovered]

I like the move where you get a girl in the club to offer herself up as bait to get your buddy to come out and then just use the pic on Tinder. You validate her and capitalize on her in one move.

[–]A_DERPING_ULTRALISK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bonus points if you put it on tinder in front of her.

[–]Gawernator 12 points13 points  (12 children)

Seems almost mathematical really.

Also, I'm 5'10" and don't think I could get away with saying I'm 6'...?

[–]coffee_and_lumber 34 points34 points [recovered]

I'm like 5'11 and a half. I just say 6 feet. Then I met a girl who is legit 6'. She called me out.

Doesn't matter still banged.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lol how did you deal with her calling you out?

[–]Man_Jose 33 points34 points  (1 child)

"I'm big where it counts" (then a sly wink)

[–]ThrowingMyslfOutther 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same but I up ante to 6'1" meet a girl that was 6' but I was wearing dress shoes so it wasn't obvious. She was probably gadfly the lie wasn't a half foot, for either important thing.

Banged.

[–]snowdude_fz 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Yes you could. Especially if you are meeting shorter women. They can't tell the difference between 5'10" and 6'.

[–]Gawernator 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Okay, cool. Well I just switched it up to 6'0 and see what happens. Also you're right, most my previous LTR have been about 5'3"-5" and most girls here in general are 4'11"-5'5" anyways (lots of latina and asian)

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Check back in after a few days and let us know if it makes a difference!

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Will do. Guess I need to message "hi" to some chicks. Lol. Almost tempted to shotgun blast just to see how many responses I can get

[–]phillyjim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would spam girls with "does this mean you're my girlfriend?" And then they'd reply something stupid and I'd say "ok let's go to a shitty bar and make out".

If they replied to that then I would meet them. If they didn't then I lost 10 seconds of my life. This was over two years ago as I've been off tinder quite a while.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wear boots to the date. Problem solved

[–]untitled_redditor 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think your last tip, be taller, really is gold for online dating.

[–]Gunnilingus 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I've been matching on 90% of my swipe-rights with this one (forgive my shitty attempt to crop out my face on my phone). If you're in the right place, at the right time, with the right t-shirt, take a photo. Think of your exceptional experiences as being directly tradeable for tinderella pussy.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's a perfect storm photo. Establishes you with an alpha male physique, with a sense of humor, being bold, in an unusual and conversation-starting setting. Great example.

[–]lemerou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

That was in Bangkok, right ? Maybe in 2011 ?

[–]Il128 31 points31 points [recovered]

For the older gentlemen. I'm 50.

  1. Tinder lets you delete and create an account over and over again with no checks or time limits. This is very useful.

  2. FaceBook let's you change your name, work, education, profile picture(s), age and description over and over again with no checks or time limits. This is very useful.

  3. I do not keep a standing Tinder account. It's always deleted unless I'm looking to get laid.

  4. When I'm looking to get laid, I create a Tinder account and scan through all the women ages 18-50+.

  5. I then delete that account and create a Tinder/Facebook account to match up age wise, money wise and name wise, with the women I'm interested in. 35 is about as young as I can go and 55 is about as old as I can go looks wise.

  6. I use Google Voice or another service to create a disposable cellphone number. Again these can be deleted and created over and over again with no checks or time limits.

  7. I log on to Tinder with my new FaceBook profile and start swiping the women I like. I'll usually get a hook in the first half hour.

  8. Connect with one and give her the disposable cellphone number. We chat or text a bit, then we meet for drinks. These days dinner is a waste of money. I only "date" thin women and they don't eat or if they do eat they just vomit it up in the bathroom after dinner. So dinner is a real waste.

  9. I never take them to my place. If their place is a no go, I'll get a hotel. Don't have sex in cars or SUVs there's no way to have good sex in a car.

  10. Best line to bail after sex, "I need cigarettes, you need anything?" Bang bang bye bye.

Hope this helps.

[–]winstrol 22 points22 points [recovered]

At this point ist paying an escort a better idea lol?

[–]lemurmort 6 points7 points  (2 children)

So what, you put Goldman Sachs as your job or what?

[–]Il128 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Usually something that's good money like a local major corporation or I claim to have my own business.

[–]jace81 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Why is it worth deleting it and starting it again? So you can match with girls who swiped left before?

[–]Il128 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and by changing your first name you get lots of chances with women over and over again.

[–]A_DERPING_ULTRALISK 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Dude this is way too much work. Is this shit your full time job?

Plus, you're a 50 yr old man. That's like being an 18 year old girl, literally everyone you meet of similar age and opposite gender is dtf you.

[–]Il128 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really hardly any work at all. It makes nsa sex so much easier.

[–]vonwaferman 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What do you put in your profile text?

[–]Il128 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've just added my height. Normally I just use key words from the profiles I like. I toss them in to sentences like. "If you want to laugh, I'm your man"

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I got my account deleted over a year ago when moments was still a thing. I tried creating another with a new Facebook but they wanted me to verify my phone number which is pretty much blacklisted for them. How can I get another phone number for tinder?

[–]rpman23 7 points8 points  (15 children)

-If you're 6'0 or taller, (really 5'10 or taller and DGAF about lying), the first line of your About Me should be your height. 6'0. On a line by itself.

I am 5'7 and every time I get asked my height I lose. Any tips?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Get one pair of boots or shoes with lifts already built in. Can find them on Amazon. Tell the women you're 5'10.

[–]fmydidgaf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Standing up or laying down?"

[–]lodro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you don't want lifts, at least wear boots that add an inch, and use all the little visual things that make a guy look slightly (!) taller. Haircut, clothing style, muscle mass, posture, beard, etc.

Then lie and say you're 5'9" or 5'10".

[–]acetylcysteine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ask how much they weigh...

maybe deflect...

be like... "funny story, this one time when i was getting a suit fitted..." drag it on and end it on something completely irrelevant?

[–]NSmaf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just say some obvious bullshit like 7'10" and play it off or add a joke about playing in the nba. I've done this a few times and not had any problem, and they usually don't ask again. If you make them laugh, they don't care about your height.

[–]gg249 0 points1 point  (2 children)

get lifts to put in your shoes and say you are 6ft

[–]rpman23 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I had already thought about that but:

a) lifts are bad for joints/ankles

b) once you take them off it is totally noticeable

c) buying lots of new pants JUST for lifts.

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[–]whyalwaysm3 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Don't lie to him because you've had a shitty experience. I have a friend who is short and every girlfriend of his was taller and he now has a hot wife who is 5'9. Just because you didn't manage to get anyone taller doesn't mean he can't.

Just read your post again, I'd bet my savings that you barely get laid. You have so many dumb assumptions like must be muscular?! Dude do you even go out? If you did youd see plenty of girls with chubby guys, normal shaped guys, taller girls with shorter guys, etc. I truly hope no one listens to your advice as it's just plainly terrible and you sound like you barely have any experience with women. I have over 800+ matches on Tinder in over a year, getting women isn't as black and white as you make it seem.

[–]magikmausi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Come on dude. I'm currently dating a girl 2" taller than me at 5'7". And this was a girl who once declared to everyone that she would "never" date a shorter guy.

Then attraction happened.

Women don't care as much as you think they do.

[–]-Bonobo- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're also not going to fuck anyone above 5'6. You absolutely must be bare minimum one inch above the girl you're fucking to remotely begin to trigger her biological impulses.

This statement absolutely holds true if you're insecure about your height. It's bullshit in all other cases.

I'm 5'8 and the first two chicks I fucked were both taller than me. That was before I started reading PUA and even learned that being short is such a bad thing. I remember each of them asked me "does it bother you that I'm taller than you?" Both times I gave them a confused look and said "I like women w long legs" and neither brought it up again.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Women wear heels.. I'm around 5'8". I don't use lifts, but I have insoles that are almost 1" thick and I put them in boots with a big heal.. At least wear boots

[–]foxytit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL. Limiting factor: inner game.

[–]Blackierobinsin 27 points28 points  (7 children)

I'd rather be with a foreign female then try to talk to American women

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 21 points22 points  (1 child)

DING DING DING DING DING

We have our thread winner. American women are not worth the trouble.

[–]Toussant 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Better attitudes but worse hygiene/medical care.

[–]lemerou 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yeah nice generalization buddy. Like all the girls that are not american don't know anything about hygiene. Because you obviously have tried all nationalities.

[–]Toussant -1 points0 points  (2 children)

This is reddit, not an academic journal. Go for it if you wish. Not all American men have good hygiene, either, or capitalize properly. You might not notice any difference.

[–]lemerou 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I also might not be American. Hope that doesn't stop you from presuming things about me.

[–]Toussant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I may or might not, sue me. Please don't take generalizations personally. There is a full spectrum everywhere. Now back to the topic of the thread if you'd like to discuss, be my guest.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I am not shaving for a shirtless selfie even when my abs come back out to play. I brag about my back hair, how is styled, or the new perm I got for it.

I haven't tried tinder, mostly due to how limited online is around here.

[–]slay_it_forward 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Do a hairy back selfie. Guaranteed 100% conversion rate. Just ask Gene Simmonds.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. One of my favorite online pick up conversation starters is that I'm 4'9", 478lbs, and my back hair is braided into a plant holder, but no worries, my dick is tiny. Great success rate with it.

[–]TrimHer 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I just started a business based on this post. Thanks!

[–]VIICHYVALOIS 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Solid advice. Though I disagree with incentivizing the hamster with dollar signs.

High net worth men have too much to lose from a gold digging, crazy Tinderella.

My two cents though, whatever works for you, just be sure to wrap it up.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tinder girls are mostly too stupid to think that far ahead, and the ones that are that smart/jaded probably won't fuck you on the first date.

[–]Ephidemical 11 points12 points  (14 children)

I once did a little experiment on Tinder. First I made an account with a regular selfie (which showed my most photogenic side), a picture hanging out with friends, a picture with a nice looking girl. My bio had something generic and my height (6'0). I got around 30 matches across the time I had it active (6 months or so).

Then I deleted it and about 3 months later I made another Tinder account. Same pics, but I changed my bio for "Swipe Right = Red Pill, Swipe Left = Blue Pill", courtesy of /u/lionofthejungle who gave me the idea with his post, and over the course of 3 months, I've roughly 60 matches in my area.

An important detail I'd like to point out is that I had seen some girls again when I made both accounts, and when I made the first one, I didn't get a match, but when I made the second one, I got a match with at least 25% of said girls.

Lessons learned is that you should also have something that catches their attention if you aren't too good looking (I'd say I'm a 5/10 overall).

[–]Gawernator 2 points3 points  (10 children)

What about a professional picture of me motorcycle racing on a racetrack?

[–]notmyusualreddit 13 points14 points  (8 children)

I took pictures of my friend with my bike so he can put on his tinder. He doesn't even know how to ride. He tells them he just sold it when they ask.

[–]Gawernator 7 points8 points  (7 children)

I've been using this one: http://imgur.com/y802qNp

also, lol.

[–]BaconEggsAndSleaze 4 points4 points [recovered]

This picture is the equivalent of a bodybuilder posting a picture mid squat making bizarre faces, there's nothing "attractive" about it. Is it cool? Yes. To Men.

10000X better pic would be this

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Lol. Hmm. Good point. I have pictures of me by my bike but they aren't professional and I'm wearing a helmet

I have one with no helmet by my bike by the trackside and just a Kawasaki racing hat but I thought the pose looks weird? Should I post it

[–]BaconEggsAndSleaze 2 points2 points [recovered]

If you have slot for another picture, post it up before the professional track pic.

My barber races like you do, he tells me loves it man. Good on you.

[–]Gawernator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. I had taken that pic down, I thought maybe too many photos could be a bad thing. I have like 5-6 up on OkC

[–]notmyusualreddit 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Nice. I use a shot of me on mine just riding down my street wearing a helmet but in jeans and boots and a tshirt. It looks a lot cooler than my aerostich. But a track shot is very cool. I might just go find a trackshot of someone on my color model bike and use it haha.

[–]Gawernator 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hahaha, plausible deniability. Yeah thanks. I'm not sure how effective my pics are, I became RP before my current LTR and haven't really been using the apps, so I can only judge by how many fatties message me or not. lol. Too much effort to swipe tons of Tinder girls

[–]phillyjim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand. I would assume that with a bio line like that, 95% of people would have no idea what you're talking about or just assume you're talking about the matrix.

It's been over two years since I was on tinder but when I was using it I was getting at least 5 matches per day on average and I'm physically a 5 at best.

[–]aherne18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lessons learned is that you should also have something that catches their attention if you aren't too good looking (I'd say I'm a 5/10 overall).

This is actually a good advice, unlike that originally posted. But it's still low numbers game...

[–]meukow 9 points10 points  (4 children)

A girl that didn't swipe me on Tinder, liked my game on OkCupid, banged first date and been spinning for months now. (She probably doesn't even remember seeing me on Tinder how quickly she swiped away)

I'm 6"4', 8/10 body, 7/10 face and can barely get any matches due to worst pictures ever.

On the brightside, those that I do match actually get a better product when they meet me, cannot say for the other side...

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Dude. At the very least put on a suit and set your iPhone timer and take some on your own that looks something like my example.

[–]meukow 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm 23, suit isn't something I'd wear on Tinder, yet.

I dont really care about Tinder for now but when I move out I'll likely get some professional photos done.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's where you're wrong. You should have the suit photo anyway. It makes the 19 year old Disney-obsessed sorority girls imagine you as a fucking Disney prince, white wedding, center of attention, etc. It makes you look rich.

[–]meukow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point, I might just get one then, but definitely not as a first photo.

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[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You really are a constructive asshole. Where the fuck have you been for the past 5 years of my beta life? Seriously this is great advice, now all I need to do is get in better shape, and possibly go outside more often to get rid of this moonlight tan I've had all winter.

[–]WhySoRuff 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Cmon bro, everybody knows your picture with friends should look like this

[–]DforDeadpool 20 points21 points  (2 children)

And your profile picture should be like this.

[–]1thiasus 16 points17 points  (7 children)

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/52d2ebb3e4b06f22d60562c5/5459180ae4b0168a2765aad6/54592084e4b0d8d8aa3c5e20/1415127179969/Adam-Jacobs-Mens-Fashion-Photography-Model-Suit-Photography-Freddie.jpg

This looks like a picture of how not to put together a suit:

  • white collar over striped shirt

  • overlarge shoulder pads

  • tie the same colour as the jacket

Its one saving grace is that the guy is a fit, professionally groomed attractive man shot professionally.

[–]colucci 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Good point other than the white collar over stripe shirt. I kinda dig it.

[–]SwagYoloJesus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Blue shirts with a white collar are pretty hard to pull off, unless you're Gordon Gekko.

[–]Alpacash 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The tie can be the color as the jacket tho.

[–]1thiasus 18 points19 points  (2 children)

If you are working as a chauffeur, pallbearer or bodyguard, sure.

[–]phillyjim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Navy jacket, navy grenadine tie. Classic.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

The rule of thirds is also getting fucked in this picture. The top part of his hair is cutoff. Something like this would be a better representation of what it should look like.

[–]1RPAlternate42 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Height:

I drive for uber sometimes on Friday/Saturday nights. On more than one occasion the following transpires:

I pull up to a group of people. A girl from the group approaches the window to confirm I'm the driver... And instead asks, are you tall?

"I'm 6'1"... Is that tall?"

Yes it is <with a smile>!. To get friends: I'll sit in the front

Everyone gets in, female friend says, Oh... I see why you wanted to sit in the front.... A guy in the group, if there is one, her boyfriend, sometimes: <clueless> why?.

Girl in front: oh, ignore her.

By just saying the numbers "6, 1" made her want to sit in the front instead of in the back with her boyfriend.

[–]brinkcitykilla 0 points1 point  (2 children)

on more than one occasion?

gives us some other details about your appearance or what kind of car youre driving?

[–]1RPAlternate42 0 points1 point  (1 child)

35yo, 6'1", 190 lb, 17 neck, 33 waist, 43 chest, 14.5 arm.

Brown hair, blue eyes, clear skin, a nose described as "strong" and also "nice" and "sexy" by different women on different occasions.

My shoulder to waist ratio is 95% of the GR, through that's not apparent when sitting in a car. My build is athletic (lifting and BJJ.)

I drive a '14 Focus ST

[–]1PrinceofSpades 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No wonder I founda bunch of tinder success not too long ago... I haphazardly went for this exact photo spread and my results went from a few to a bunch overnight. Can confirm that this strategy works wonders.

[–]trumpisafaggybeta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I love using #2 to show off my abs, chest and biceps-- best excuse while appealing the little puerile part of a woman that finds a hot guy interacting with a pet "cute."

[–]TheRealMewt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So the big fix for the average guy to see success on Tinder is to not be the average guy. Honestly, I figured this would be a given by this point on a hot or not dating app.

[–]-The-Pussy-Whisperer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Additional:

If you're packing, either come out with another measurement right below your height, or a tasteful photo showing a bulge

You won't regret the increased slut traffic.

Tinder is an ad. Use it as such and provoke moist climate in her southern locales.

[–]AnnFranklyMyDear 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm dating a lot of girls on tinder at the moment. Had a few solid 9s. I'm 6'5 so getting matches is a piece of piss if I put my height in my profile (I'm pretty good looking too, but I am a lanky streak of piss and don't have good photos, so I don't get as many matches as you'd expect). But I don't want to talk about getting matches, I want to talk about getting laid.

Inevitably on the first date we end up talking about tinder and online dating in general, and some of the shit they show me is unreal. Guys on tinder are losers, seriously. 45% of the matches are weird and creepy. 45% are dick pics. The other 10% are split between nice guys and redpillers/people who actually know how to talk to women.

If you're red pill, there is hardly any competition out there. Tinder guys suck with women. REALLY REALLY SUCK. If you're not red pill and lacking a bit of confidence, just practice. I only started with tinder 6 months ago and had no fucking idea what I was doing. It was hard at first, but once you get the basics figured out it's a piece of piss to get a date. Find a good opener, ask lots of questions, then after a few days tell them to give you their number (don't ask for it, this is important) - after that getting a date is easy unless you're a weirdo. "So when are you gonna buy me a drink?" etc.

tl;dr if you can get matches but struggle actually getting laid, take solace in the fact that 95% of tinder men are fucking shit at tinder. By virtue of even being here on TRP you are probably in the top 10%

[–]Cracadoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is gold, thanks. I remade my tinder profile with these things in mind, and I got a match in like 5 minutes. All i did was deleting all but the best pictures and some text, smart as it was. Thanks again

[–]littleboyredpill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I cannot stress the good photo bit enough. I run Tinder headshot deals once in a while for $100 and they do really well. I always here how much better luck they replace their photo. I also make them delete their account and start fresh, missing out on lots of swipes before they figured it out.

[–]colucci 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"You guys suck at Tinder!" proceed to give the same advice everyone gives around TRP.

[–]cheeky--kunt 7 points8 points  (5 children)

If I had hundreds for quality photographer, I would use it for HB9 escort with 100% success rate rather than just "trying" to impress tinder sluts.

Also, if you have 8/10 body, your face gets attractive too. Less fat on cheeks, jaw starts to look sharp, etc.. 5/10 face means the breakpoint between one lazy eye and two lazy eyes.

But still solid post. upvoted

[–]finalfantasybrownies 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Take a picture with the escort, 2 birds stoned at once.

[–]cheeky--kunt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually that is good idea. you pay her for half hour shagging and half hour taking professional photos, like the OP suggested.

[–]DumbledoresFerrari 13 points14 points  (2 children)

1 night with 1 girl instead of potentially many nights with many girls?

[–]Modge17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been meaning to restart my Tinder, this seems like a solid starting point, so cheers! I'll see how the shirtless mirror selfie works for me, I don't usually write a bio but will try the 6'0 statement (I'm 5'10 but who cares) will probably follow up with my observations!

[–]magikmausi 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I'm 5'7". Can pass off as 5'8"-5'9" based on footwear and because I have good proportions and broad shoulders.

What should be my approach? Amplify? State directly on my bio - "I'm 5'7". Deal with it"?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, that comes off as defensive. Just don't list your height, put a cocky/funny one-liner in there instead.

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[–]Snazzy_Serval 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm 5'5, should I mention height at all?

[–]Apexk9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My 6 pictures on tinder.

1 suit jacket with a Henley and nice jeans red shoes walking my dog

2 full suit

3 playing tug with my dog showing muscles

4 group shot ( went to some young kids (I'm 30) said I was on a scavenger hunt and if they wanna take a picture made the men do stupid faces and the women do sexy faces.

5 hot chick

6 cute pic of dog.

[–]johnchapel 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Good fucking god. An amazing post in a sea of TRP tourist bullshit.

Somebody should give you gold for this.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

gold for what, it's just giving revenue to this increasingly feminist site for imaginary internet points. special internet points.

[–]abdada 4 points5 points  (4 children)

My Tinder trial was one photo that was a shadow of me holding a gal up at the beach. You couldn't see us, just the shadow cast. It showed off my physique really well.

My height: 68cm. Girls can't measure, lol. They'd message me from the pic and ask "how tall is that?" and I'd ignore the question and change direction.

Worked really well. It's a magic photo.

[–]FlorentinoDimision 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah that 2 ft 2 inch physique

[–]gg249 4 points5 points  (1 child)

if you are 68cm (thats like 2ft) tall, i dont think you can hide that shit with a creative pic amigo

[–]abdada 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women can't measure. Tell her your dick is 12" long she can't tell.

I've told gals I'm 5 decimeters tall. Dumbfounded stares and some of them are engineers, lol.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a good post, thank you for sharing.

[–]SmilingWatermelon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Awesome post dude. Im gonna try all these tips and see how I do. You..Wouldn't happen to still be doing retouching would you?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes. Send me one and if I get a second I'll take a look.

[–]SunnyHillside 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Female here. I agree. Most pictures are complete garbage. I can't believe some men get any swipes at all. However I'm picky about smiling. If every picture is the same headshot of you with your resting B face I'm going to assume you are boring and short. Also be careful about the pictures with women. Some women see it as a threat, especially if they are model hot. Just the 2cents of ONE chic.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People disagree on this, but I agree that men should smile in at least one photo.

The exception is dudes with really bad teeth or adult braces. They should smile with no teeth.

[–]-ArchitectOfThought- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your perception of the average man, his troubles, and who it is on tinder who actually needs help are wildly uncalibrated.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh god thank you for this, now i know what to post!!!

[–]vonwaferman 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What about the profile text?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Almost irrelevant- if your pics give her tingles it's a swipe right. If not you're out.

You can help your case with a one liner - "FOUND: one glass slipper. If you know it's owner please let me know so I can return it to her."

[–]taoofmojo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]JDiculous 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How do you open though?

I rarely get any messages back from matches.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like to comment or pick on something in her photos. "My dog wants to know if your dog is single". "That's quite an Instagram you've got there. How long does it take you to perfect a selfie?" "Your blonde hair is bangin. Is that your natural color?" Be funny and make her prove herself to you instantly. Make her come out of the gate apologizing for something in her life. Act like you're evaluating her as a life partner (even if you just want to fuck her) and Tinder is her presentation to you. Question her. Poke holes in her thesis. You are the king and these princesses are being judged for your hand.

[–]wtg2989 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get tons of matches on tinder but most of them never really go anywhere. I get swiped right a lot but the rest is what i have trouble with.

[–]schwb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't use tinder because it's based only on looks .. for me ( a 5'7" guy, brown, black hear, brown eyes ) I don't get many girls on tinder .. I realized that I get better girls in real so I stopped using it.

[–]SuccessIsMade 0 points1 point  (1 child)

To add on to this, if you have a cool hobby:

Make your first picture of you doing that hobby, or a picture with you and an industry leader in that hobby.

I'm a local open format DJ to add additional revenue streams. My first picture is me in the booth with DJ Drama and Wiz Khalifa when I performed with them at an afterparty last summer.

When I changed my picture from a modeling shoot I did for a local clothing company to that picture, Girls message me first all the time asking how I know Wiz etc. Luckily, I have the fortune of being able to say I actually have a business relationship with him (a college roommate does alot of his video work) instead of just telling the girls that ask about it that it was just a fanboy photo.

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ditto photo with the celebrity, even if it's a meet and greet or whatever. Good conversation starter.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no wonder I am doing it wrong, all my pictures are just with chicks in the club lol

[–]noaydi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]lumberjackinla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Online dating is futile. Waste of time

[–]cynicalsimon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ops an idiot. maybe a different pic may make the difference but if your ugly by default or fat, it doesn't matter one bit

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

Wearing a suit? Paying a professional photographer? Are we serious?

The point of Tinder is to look like you don't give a shit. These techniques will make you look desperate.

[–]RedEyesBlueShades 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why don't you fucking try instead of just hamstering your nonsense away?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Give a shit for 2 hours and then sit back and get laid for awhile. Worth it.

[–]BBB2000 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

i mean yeah, there is some merit to this thread

but less not forget, an invisible man is invisible

--- a hot guy could break every single rule on this list, put one photo up of himself in his bathroom taking a selfie in front of his toilet

and dominate. and an average man will still be lucky to get 1 match a day with trial and error of 1000 pictures

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If you are 5/10 average and not getting matches, you're doing it wrong.

A 5/10 dude with a good photo will present as a 7/10. You just need that one picture.

If you're a 5/10, send me your first photo and I will send it back as a 7/10 while still making it look like you.

[–]aherne18 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Are you running a business on this?:)

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope. I edit redditors photos for free sometimes. It just pisses me off to see so many decent high SMV guys with terrible photos.

[–]gonorealover -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm probably a 5/10 in the face but an 8/10 in the body.

There it is . The fucking context.

[–]MKG24 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I am awesome at Tinder. A good tag line is key and a IDGAF attitude.

[–]Alurulu -2 points-2 points [recovered]

As a female, I disagree with the 3rd and 4th point. If there are multiple people (group) in the first picture, I assume you're the person I find the least attractive and left swipe. If there is a girl, it's not as bad, but it makes me question why you would choose that picture for a dating app. I mostly use Tinder as a game, though, so take that as you will.

[–]ItsNotShane 4 points5 points  (1 child)

deleted What is this?

[–]1constructiveasshole[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah don't use a group as photo #1. My order above is my recommended photo order. She needs to see who you are instantly.

[–]aherne18 -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

Don't listen to this! Once you're unattractive you simply won't have any success on internet "dating", PERIOD. (except through astronomic numbers game)

Consider you have chosen the best photo of yourself (or someone else) and get some "swipes", you still have to face the REAL test: meeting her in person. Then you will be able to read disappointment in their faces...

TRP isn't about sugar-coating reality! Dominance & gaming are our only options... They actually WORK!

[–]schwb 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I agree with the part : being unattractive physically ( short .. not muscular enough ) won't get you any on the Internet.

[–]aherne18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm tall, I look pretty masculine, I'm overall quite good looking, I'm dominant, I'm used to get attention from women.

But on Internet... it's like the surface of Mars: cold and bone dry (ZERO feedback, except from gold diggers). I'm out-competed by the few better looking men (the HG8-10s who are getting inordinate amounts of attention) and I will NOT find an excuse for this. Nor will I envy or belittle them. It's their market in which I just don't belong...

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Gaming? Only for you, you beta male filth

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

You pathetic beta male weakling supplicant males let this all happen. You reap what you sow you pussy pedestalizing weak male garbage. Why should anyone have any empathy for such a pussified group of so called "men" who are really the bottom of the barell JUNK that evolution wishes to extinguish!!