Red Pill TheoryHey Guys I Just Wanna Get Girlz (self.TheRedPill)

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I don't know why this is happening, but I have some theories. Maybe some seventeen year old is telling his little Call Of Duty friends to check out the Red Pill. Maybe more boys are finding out about the Red Pill because of Rooshgate. Maybe the Trump candidacy has shifted the overton window, bringing more men to the politically incorrect side of the internet. I can't say for certain. All I know is there has been an uptick in what I presume to be ADHD millennials making Hey Guys I Just Wanna Get Girlz posts.

A I Just Wanna Get Girls post is somewhat analogous to a turd sandwich. It has some good ingredients: crisp lettuce, fresh tomatoes, mustard and toasted whole grain bread. Unfortunately the turd in the middle of the sandwich ruins what would otherwise be sublime and begs the question; who is creating this abomination and why? Like most TRP posts, IJWGG posts are built on the assumption that the west is gynocentric and favors women over men. However rather than being filled with delicious TRP self improvement beef, it's filled with Give Me A Pussy Plan turd.

If there is anything that betas love its procrastination. The luxury gym chain Equinox understands this phenomenon and monetizes it. The personal trainers at Equinox are not allowed to teach their healthy clients barbell squats right off the bat. Instead they spend months taking them through extraneous progressions. They start off with wall squats, proceed to TRX squats, then Bosu squats, then BBC squats and after 6 months and $3300 finally teach their client barbell squats. Equinox intentionally retards it's client's progress in order to milk them for the maximum amount of cash possible. Pick up artists employed a similar system of tiered seminars to milk their betas. Betas like to be babysat. They love personalized attention and they fear rapid progress.

The Red Pill adamantly refuses to offer a Pussy Plan. Instead it explains the rules of the sexual marketplace and tells you to create your own masculine self development plan. Because at the end of the day there is nothing I can type into my keyboard that will magically make you not a bitch. The only person that can make you develop confidence and charisma is yourself. The only way to do that is through painful trial and error. In fact if a girl calls you an awkward nerd go ahead and use that to develop your frame. After all, it is the very possess of undergoing stress and subsequently becoming anti-fragile, that turns boys into men.

We are not here to coddle you. We are not here to string you along with illusions of unicorns, leprechauns and pots of gold at the end of a rainbow. The Red Pill exists to offer you a general framework of the sexual marketplace and a couple thousand data points. Pussy Plans don't exist and the people selling them are con men. If you don't like the taste of our Red Pill beef, go back to eating your turd sandwich.

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[–]Do not send modmail to my personal inboxCrazyHorseInvincible[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (7 children)

I am stickying this so more people will read it.

TRP is not a road map to get you from point A to point B, it is a course in navigation. Because not all journeys go to the same destination, and if you're too lazy to navigate, you're too lazy to hike.

When you say "Tell me specifically what to do.", you are asking to be led. You are asking how to get what you want without changing who you are. You are asking how to emerge from your cave, get the girl, and then go back to playing World of Nerdcraft.

In order to achieve what you want to achieve, you must become the sort of man who achieves it.

There are many different sorts of man to choose from. But "exactly who I currently am" is not one of them.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 118 points119 points  (14 children)

I said it before and I'll say it again: seddit is now a complete joke, and we've become the new seddit somehow. Like you, I'm also curious about this influx of the root of this, but I have some theories.

When I first started lurking here nearly three years ago, every post had some ultimate message behind it that told me I had to improve myself or I would fall behind. I was 21 and had been actively addicted to the seddit side of self-improvement for the past year or so, but wasn't buying into the whole heavy peacocking, pay a PUA to learn shit side of things. Those issues have only grown since then over there, but I digress. Even still, I started going for wacky openers to stand out at college parties, and was having short term success. I could get laid, but it was short term, because the women quickly sniffed out the facade, and left to go find a real chad.

On the other hand, here was this subreddit finally giving me answers. Real answers about society and the ugly truth I didn't want to believe. So I forced myself to swallow it, and things began to change. For the first time, I cared about myself and not chasing average looking tail while dreaming about hotties. I finally started lifting for the sake of me and my rugby program instead of half-assing it as a status symbol so sluts would come home with me. I grew up, and grew big. I carried around a fucking ball to get better, and I actually gave a shit about classes. Although I already knew this subreddit had explained the truth about society better than anything had before, I wasn't sure if all the dating advice was going to be correct. Until it was. I ended up briefly seeing the hottest girl at my entire university thanks to a mutual female friend, and I wasn't even expecting it. I messed that up because my newfound success hadn't caught up to me yet; I was so distracted by self-improvement I didn't notice the 180 from a large majority of the female population about me. After her came a woman who was the best for me girl I ever dated, and for the first relationship in my life I never broke frame. Go figure, we never argued once, and things ended because we were graduating and moving different places. My first healthy break-up.

Since then, I've broken my collarbone (twice), and dropped from 205lbs to 145lbs. I almost gave up because I couldn't figure out what happened; I was still acting like the 205 lb successful guy in the real world and couldn't figure out what people didn't see. Then I came back here and took a real look in the mirror and realized a simple truth that is thankfully still the core philosophy around here: "you already know the rules of society; as a result, you have no one to blame but yourself." Im back up to 185. I've put on 15lbs, the majority of which has been muscle, in the last 12 weeks (now that my collar bone allows me to lift things again), by going to the gym for PT and weightlifting 15-20 hours a week. Sure enough, the society opinion of me is coming back, because my physical appearance has been returning. I've also gotten a promotion in those 12 weeks, because I'm finding success in every aspect of my life currently.

I've gone from spinning 2 low SMV plates at ~160lbs to spinning 2 medium and 1 high SMV plates in the last twelve weeks. You don't have to go lift to get laid, but it sure as fuck makes getting hot girls easier.

The reason I mention all of this though is because this post, my life recap, is what TRP used to be about. Self-sacrifice to generate self-success. Not just with women, but with everything. This subreddit was basically titled: "guidelines to becoming a 10% man." After all, that's why we have SO many categories of posts that are up at the top. I didn't come here to read field reports about your recent threesome, I came here to read some self-improvement story. I don't care about you banging two chicks, because caring about something that I'm not doing is about as blue pill as it gets. Save that shit for seddit. This reddit is for explaining everything you did up to that point, including lifestyle changes that potentially happened years beforehand. Not about the end result beyond a sentence or two. I come here to discuss female vs male psychology, lifting tips, dieting tips, lifestyle tips. To provide advice to new guys and soak in advice from the endorsed and vanguards. Always have.

I think a part of this dynamic shift in trend comes from the mods decision to make this primary focus of TRP primarily about sexual strategy and getting women that was made fairly recently. Guys like me and many other vets understand that getting pussy and higher quality pussy is part of the deal regardless. That part should be fucking obvious to everyone on here. However, I'm concerned this potentially confused new guys and recently new lurkers into thinking this is the place where you go to get instant success with pussy, failing to understand that blood, sweat, and tears that go into real success. You become a dark triad trait using alpha male, you will get women. More than you probably want. You'll chase unicorns until the real meaning of AWALT finally sinks in. Yet you'll still be so much farther than the men who just dream of ever getting laid more than once a month married and wasting away while people like us fuck their wives in cheap hotels.

We don't need every post here teaching you how to fuck Tom's girlfriend/wife. That should be obvious; go be Chad, go say hi and flirt with her a lot. Go be in a different tier of man then Tom. If you've done everything right, she'll likely come around. If not, who cares, don't get oneitis about a plate you don't even have yet.

If you need to learn how to say hi and how to flirt, that's what seddit is and always will be for. We aren't here to hold your hand because you grew up autistic. If you don't know how to be flirty with a woman, you aren't ready to be flirting with that woman.

New guys see this new policy and think that this is where PUAs meet up and go to get laid. This is not that place. It has a section for that, sure, but let's work on shifting back to that just being a section. This is a place where people come to vent about their wives cheating, where men who repaired their marriages by making their wives work to make them proud come to share their success, where men teach you the benefits of lifting, meditating, being friendly, being social, being dominant, steering a conversation, not watching porn every night before bed. Where red vs blue pill is depicted clearly in the media. This is where you wake up to the world around you. This is not where you come to get easy sex. That's the bar, or if you're smart and dodging rape allegations due to lack of commitment, that's an escort. Having success with women is just an additional perk, because you're finding more success at everything.

[–]LosingMoneyAllDay 11 points12 points  (3 children)

It's the journey, not the destination. Up vote to you sir.

[–]1PrinceofSpades 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Indeed. I think the biggest shame is that so many of the newer faces around here believe that their destination is putting their penis in a wet hole, when men are capable of infininetly greater things than our lowest common biological function/ desire/ denominator, sex.

Sex is retardedly easy to get once you've got your life together. Want a challenge? Marry an old party slut who used to let people like me drill her ass whenever I called her, and spend your entire marriage without her cheating on you once (I'm talking actually cheat, not just the stuff you find out about). Now that would be a real feat worth bragging about.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 5 points6 points  (4 children)

I think a part of this dynamic shift in trend comes from the mods decision to make this primary focus of TRP primarily about sexual strategy and getting women that was made fairly recently. Guys like me and many other vets understand that getting pussy and higher quality pussy is part of the deal regardless. That part should be fucking obvious to everyone on here. However, I'm concerned this potentially confused new guys and recently new lurkers into thinking this is the place where you go to get instant success with pussy, failing to understand that blood, sweat, and tears that go into real success.

This. TRP isn't a sexual strategy to get laid (although applying it can get you laid). TRP is about accepting the dynamics of the sexes and is a strategy for life. Turning it into "getting pussy" just makes the whole thing lame, and I for one am not surprised at the influx and increase in shit posts.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Please please for the sake of Annubis, stop insisting that "TRP is about X" or "TRP is about Y"

You're projecting every time you do that, you say TRP is about what YOU picked up from it. There is no single thing that encompasses TRP, whether it's spinning plates, gaining financial success or self discovery. It's about ALL these things together. Everytime you try to reduce it to a single, atomic phrase, you miss the point. All those things in parallel are achieved trough the toolbox and the praexism TRP offers, but with so many people that have so many opinions and perceptions, none can be determined as the sole purpose. Only nominated for such.

[–]MuhTriggersGuise 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Red Pill: Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men.

From the sidebar. Not only that, my post is essentially saying what you're talking about, so maybe you're agreeing with me?

[–]marplaneit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was about to post something similar. Good luck fucking high grade pussy being a regular guy without success in any department (Money, Power and Body). Even if you succcessfuly pulll the I'm an alpha having regular grades at college, and a 150lb body, you will hardly pull anything better than 7 (Unless God tier face genetics). I think games help, but there is a climax point, where improving your game does too Little to pick up girls.

Sure! If you are socially retarded improving game will harvest a lot of results... But for you are average collegue student, investing hard in yourself is the best kind of game you can get.

[–]NeoreactionSafe 65 points66 points  (4 children)

This is the perfect post to start my day.

I was thinking before logging on that if there is a single take away you can get from the Red Pill it's that:


  • Do not follow


At the core of Red Pill is Frame and Game.

Frame means you set ego boundries that define who you are as being distinct from the overall herd.

Game means you use your own mixture of logic and intuition to exercise your 48 Laws of Power to influence the world to your benefit.

In both of these concepts there is no following.

Masculinity is leadership... of yourself and of women.

If you chase pussy as a slave you aren't leading.


[–]Endorsed ContributorMeat-on-the-table 148 points149 points  (24 children)

The problem with most of these fockers is that they think this shit happens in isolation. That you can spend 10 hours slouched over your computer playing Call of Duty, eating junk food, jacking off five times a day to midget porn, doing the bare minimum, and then just walk out of your parent's basement and go apply the three-point plan that you saw on some PUA forum and get laid.

It does not work that way; and anyone who claims otherwise is just trying to take you for a ride.

[–]TMarizzle 19 points20 points  (13 children)

And if that particular PU technique didn't work, surely the next one will

[–]DforDeadpool 11 points12 points  (12 children)

Just to be sure, try them on 50 women for each technique!

[–]lexussss 21 points21 points [recovered]

To be fair, regardless of technique, trying anything on 50 women would be the quickest way to boost confidence and getting it done.

[–]DforDeadpool 6 points7 points  (10 children)

Also a huge fucking waste of time if you don't have good SMV and good game.

[–]OneMoreAcct 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Do you think some people are born with game? And if you're not born with it you might as well stay in your parents basement jacking to midget porn? I'd say even with low SMV and no game, hitting on 50 women would be a learning experience.

If the hypothetical person was working on his SMV while approaching 50 women, all the better.

[–]DforDeadpool 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Some people are ready to do that social skills and SMV-wise. Some are not, let's think about the fat neckbeard whose skin looks like it has never seen the sun. Let's add a fedora and a trenchcoat just for fun. Anyways, what would happen if he were to hit on 50 women? He'd got rejected 50 times. And he'd get rejected hard. He'd experience most of the nuclear stuff we heard about (and maybe experienced them) in here. How would it change his views on women? Would he want to approach women again? Hardly.

And now, think about the opposite. Muscular, handsome, stylish Chad. How women would react to him? How that would affect his views on women and game? I'd bet on my ass that guy would see the game as a sweet ride. Our fedora'd gentleman would see the game as an analraping fest. Have you ever heard "You can't out-train a bad diet"? It's the same thing. You can't out-game bad SMV. If you look like shit, if you can't even maintain regular chit-chat with people without being weird, why would you approach 50 women? It's just some PUA bullshit. I find it funny. PUAs always try to be in their best shape, upping their SMV like crazy, and then they pick up women. Yet they