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Meta[META] Reddit rolls out first ban wave of "Harassing Subreddits" (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Jaques_Fury

The most notorious target was FatPeopleHate. Yesterday, people on FPH were noticing that a lot of top Imgur posts on that subreddit had also been deleted by the Imgur staff personally.

Reddit Post: Removing harassing subreddits

https://archive.is/mJyJe

This happened less than an hour ago. This relates to TRP as we were regularly listed alongside FPH as "the worst places on reddit" by multiple AskReddit threads. I know that Puerarchy acts as a failsafe in case we're the next target by the Pao administration, but this definitely warrants some discussion.

Screenshot: FPH banned for violating the reddit rules to "keep everyone safe"

http://i.imgur.com/bVTmFyL.png


[–]nookthedestroyer 156 points156 points [recovered]

I never post here but I read it almost daily. This subreddit saved my life.

I was trapped in a horrible marriage with some fat harpy who was doing her best to blow my inheritance and this forum taught me what a blue beta bitch I was being.

I'm not going to repeat the story told a thousand times but needless to say I got divorced, expensively fucking divorced, and after I came out the other side I was in better shape physically, mentally, emotionally, financially, sexually, you name it. And I will go out on a limb and say that I don't have to treat women terribly to do it. That's the sad thing, that our detractors are utterly convinced that we're here to torture women and that could not be further from the truth.

Keep up the good work, wherever you have to post it. Us guys who came from single parent homes who got motherboy'd to death need this. Us guys from feminized schools need this. We need someone to tell us how to be goddamned men because no one ever did. I was well into my thirties when I finally became what I consider a Real Man and my God it's like I've been set free.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 20 points21 points  (1 child)

That's the sad thing, that our detractors are utterly convinced that we're here to torture women and that could not be further from the truth.

Projection. How many emasculate men do you think are being tortured by their women right now, blind to see what's going on? Ignorant? Blaming themselves for their own mental enslavement and psychological captivity to an unappreciative parasitic harpy? I bet the number, globally, especially in developed countries, is rather high.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But...but,..the patriarchy.

Men hold all the power so how can they be victims. Snark off.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ironically, women are happier when they are in a relationship with a happy, self-assured, ambitious man. However, the detractors wouldn't know what it's like to be with one because their behavior is typically not worth a red-pill man's time in the first place.

They don't know what they're missing out on, and even if they did, they'd have a whole lot of self-improvement to do to be worthy of it.

[–]10xdada 275 points276 points  (39 children)

This is hilarious. Expect them to implode. By their own rationale, failing to delete something means an endorsement. "How can X be kept is Y is deleted?" It will be a fairness death spiral.

[–]dogs-not-cats 59 points59 points [recovered]

"How can X be kept if Y is deleted"

You are so right, this will then lead to deleting so many subs. If TRP is removed, then we should all start bitching about other subs to be removed, otherwise, all the controversial subs are being endorsed. Goodbye to any porn type subs on reddit. Goodbye to a lot of traffic on reddit.

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[–]InfectdProlapsedAnus 2 points2 points [recovered]

If you build an open forum as good as reddit using the blockchain, be sure to premine, because that will blow up.

[–]Billybob25112 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No, we shouldn't. Bitching won't solve anything. If TRP gets removed we have a backup site, no need to drag this out any further.

[–]NikoMyshkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

exactly. time to move on and keep focusing on what makes TRP great - a source of focus that keeps us making ourselves better.

[–]dhump 208 points209 points  (11 children)

Death spiral is pretty accurate. Any site like reddit trying to exist under the guise of "open community" and "open discussion" while simultaneously quashing views the upper crust don't like or agree with is doomed to drive away it's user base.

Why frequent a place that will shit all over the content you go there for simply because the powers that be don't like that content?

Also, fuck whining fatties. Crying until something is banned because it hurts your feelings is the lowest of the low. Don't like what you see? Don't go looking for it. Change the fucking channel.

[–]kalstate 104 points105 points  (5 children)

One time, when I was in 5th grade, I saw a 4th grader at recess, and I said "Hi, Tony.". His response, was a screaming "leave me alone!" as he spiraled into a complete meltdown, as if he were being beaten by demons. I re-asserted myself, and tried to tell him that I meant no harm and that I was just saying "hi". He doubled down, and cried all the way back to his classroom. Five minutes later, I got summoned to the 4th grade class, and I was scolded by the 4th grade teacher, and the entire 4th grade class, for being a bully. I learned many important lessons that day. And today, that whiny little bitch is trolling, because, you know, demons in his head. Poor little fella..

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (3 children)

One time, when I was in 1st grade, it was recess and I saw an older kid bullying a younger one. He was calling him names and saying no one wanted to be friends with him. I decided I'd intervene instead of letting the problem solve itself. I ran up behind the bully and, with all my force, pushed him from behind into the kid he was bullying. Their faces smashed together and they were both on the ground bleeding and crying. A teacher ran up and I was suspended for bullying.

Sometimes people think they're doing something honorable and helpful when really their inability to see the bigger picture as well as the consequences their helpful actions have are creating a real problem. This particular problem (Reddit's censorship) will solve itself. From Digg to Reddit, from Reddit to x.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funny that the generation that was so anti-bullying are the biggest bullies ever. When I was in school we could fight the bullies with our fists and end shit.

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[–]TRP VanguardtrpSenator 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Let's get real for a second, and put the politics aside. FPH did routinely harass people, even if it was through external means (as in not intentional). For instance, I did once post there an image of a "gamer girl" who was your typical ham. I just posted it to mock her with other people, but before you know it, she was somehow notified, and she did find the post, and she did write me a sob story letter. And I'll be honest, I did feel kind of bad after figuring out how upset she was and was still in HS.

But yeah, that's just me. That sort of stuff happened all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the sub, especially it's blunt honesty and funny as fuck comments. But while it didn't expressively encourage raids, it did lead to a lot of self empowered witch hunts simply because many of the planets were active social media users.

Meanwhile, TRP is nothing like that. This sub takes great lengths to discourage raiding or anything else. TRP by and large likes to keep to itself. I think it's safe. If anything SRS is WAY worse than this sub by a long shot.

[–]TheRealMewt 167 points168 points  (9 children)

Now would be as good a time as any to join the mailing list

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

what we really need is someone to set up a chinese-based clone of reddit, like 8chan is to 4chan

no sjw'ing, just open forums. i would even donate to that shit

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There's a /theredpill/ on 8chan but it was empty the last time I went there and I'm not sure who moderates it.

[–]southernmost 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck it, let the SJWs have their own subforums. But instead of letting them run rampant like SRS, make them follow the same rules as everyone else. They'll lose their collective shit.

[–]nolanrj44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This deserves way more attention ^

[–]CormacD123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This needs to be up voted higher.

[–]ModMachiavellianRed[M] 368 points369 points  (6 children)

Please make this the only topic on the matter. Every time the community freaks out about "what Reddit might do" we get about 10 threads. This thread will be sufficient. If you see other threads popping up on TRP identical to this, please report it or send me a PM so I can delete it. We don't need want the sub filling up with panic. Keep it in this thread. Thanks.

[–][deleted] 783 points784 points  (191 children)

It's coming, gents. It's been a good run.

[–]cdnz0mbie 102 points103 points  (65 children)

Yeah, I replied to a comment about a person that would rather have them ban r/redpill than r/fatpeoplehate...it went from +180 to +400 in about 5 minutes.

[–]1dongpal 37 points38 points  (4 children)

and if you ask why, you get downvoted immediately because you dont automatically follow

[–]AKnightAlone 3 points4 points  (3 children)

If I had to fashion a guess, it would be because people are treating feminism as a means to defend their beta nature. So because TRP supports alpha thinking along with plenty of genuinely misogynistic posters and discussions, TRP appears inherently misogynistic. So what it comes down to is whether it's more offensive to shame women for "no reason"(quotation marks according to what I've already explained) or to shame fat people for, arguably, a choice. On the surface, it appears somewhat frightening to think people would degrade others just for being born. Of course obesity tends to be a course of life as opposed to something that's 100% unaffected by lifestyle. I'm a determinist so I've got some different views here, but we're essentially judging people by their brains in both scenarios. If I judged people harshly by their nature, I would group fatties along with betas for choosing to be weak... But I'm more just the type to judge people independently. Betas can be cool, fat people can be cool, but in general, they're not traits that prove beneficial. They can make for awesome character in the right people, but it's not something a person should ever shoot for unless they consider themselves truly trapped in either disposition.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Genuinely misogynistic posters? Where?

[–]1mojo_juju 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Could you provide archived permalink to the post you refer to? Looked at your /u/ and couldn't find it... I didn't look too hard though as I'm fixin to crash out

[–]NikoMyshkin 164 points165 points  (95 children)

it's not over (unless you're talking about Reddit's popularity in general).

[–][deleted] 180 points181 points  (94 children)

Yeah you're right. I'm doubling back over that thread – looks like they're only banning subreddits that engage in active harassment. What worries me is that their definition of what constitutes "harassment" by a subreddit seems to be more or less baseless.

[–]Shade_Raven 294 points295 points  (16 children)

Lol "harassment" they will ban whatever they feel like for whatever reason

[–]-Quotidian 202 points203 points  (4 children)

Feelz before realz.

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (1 child)

Streisand effect.

They know they can't ban us without a good reason, such as stage false flag doxxing/harassment.

It will be the end of reddit popularity and let it descend into clickbait hell.

[–]Skiffbug 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Being realistic, FatPeopleHate is a sub based on hatred and belittling others. I would give TRP a bit more credit than that.

[–]Shade_Raven 73 points74 points  (2 children)

Feels > Reals .

TRP has the reputation of a hatred sub.

[–]ThePantsThief 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Anyone who visits for more than 5 minutes can see that isn't true. Let's hope they're not too swift about all this.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm not usually a betting man...

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Doesn't matter. The fact that we don't conform to feminist ideals makes us a hate sub.

[–]ThoughtOverFear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hate = Whatever one decides is hurtful. Offense is only taken, never given.

[–]OlanValesco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The sword of logic will never pierce the quag of emotion.

[–]NikoMyshkin 30 points31 points  (2 children)

concensus has it that it's more to do with advertising (fat people might not buy products advertised next to FPH). apparently....

also this: Chairman Pao is a disgusting disgrace to humanity. so there's that.

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[–]MaxBonerstorm 162 points163 points  (23 children)

Isn't that harassment?

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[–][deleted] 92 points93 points  (0 children)

''some subs are more equal than others''

[–]NikoMyshkin 40 points41 points  (15 children)

i guess we are fair game since, clearly, we are a hate group that puts down women /s

the fact that TRP is an attempt to redress the balance of intergender power back to a point where men are treated fairly is something that TBPers somehow find abhorent.

i think part of TBP's problem is that they cannot accept that sexual atttraction will never, ever be politically correctable, equal or fair.

[–]MaxBonerstorm 31 points32 points  (8 children)

What I find interesting is I stumbled upon this website after hearing how vitriolic it was and I had to sate my curiosity.

After seeing it was pretty much a "This is how you don't get pushed around by women" place to throw around ideas, I subbed.

I once, when I first started visiting, mentioned this sub to a friend going through some relationship problems and he thought " I was trolling him" by even mentioning this place. Sure he had never been here, just assumed what he heard was right.

I just don't understand why this place is demonized yet twoxchromosones or whatever is perfectly fine. It's honestly baffling. Sure the knee jerk reaction is to blame SJW etc, however, I feel that it also speaks to rejecting things with zero research or evidence and going by hearsay only.

[–]NikoMyshkin 18 points19 points  (4 children)

the truth hurts, i guess. and why would women give up the advantage they currently enjoy over men? that's the source of the anti-TRP vitriol. TRP exposes 'equality' as currently really being feminine supremacy and - when attacked - SJWs go in to full shame mode - call any dissenting man/movement misogynistic in an effort to silence. it's quite effective propaganda as you pointed out with your friend.

[–]MaxBonerstorm 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I don't think a lot of women do any of this on purpose or with malice, and bizarrely enough, get turned on when you exhibit TRP qualities.

Yet this sub gets shit on. Fucking weird man. But I hear your points, and I'm sure that definitely contributes to this whole thing.

[–]EvrythingISayIsRight[🍰] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

They don't consider it harassment when it fits their agenda.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

It is. That sub should get shut down for brigading.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're harassing fit men, not sacks of fat shit, so yea. Reddit only cares about the SHIT of society. Anyone relatively successful makes them feel bad about themselves. IMO fuck reddit, It's fun watching this burn.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Would serve as a pretext for a ban if a stitch-up was desired, but otherwise they'd see the IP addresses of such people don't match the IPs of those who post here. Basically, if there was no pretext, they'd be able to see it's not us doing whatever they're going to do, but people pretending to be us. They'd risk getting their own sub banned doing that kind of thing.

[–]alphbux 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I wonder if they would go to that much trouble to check IPs when looking for a reason to ban TRP.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 13 points14 points  (1 child)

If it's a pretext for something they already want to do than whether TBP campaign or not is completely irrelevant. It would just make a convenient cover story for justifying what they want to do regardless. Kind of like when the American public were told "Sadam's got nukes" as a pretext for invasion. If they are actually investigating a false flag and have no pretext for banning us, they'll see TBP are trying to frame us.

[–]the_number_2 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Remember, though, that "THEY" is the Reddit staff. This is the same staff that aligns with Feminism and SJW's and banned a sub that hated something they ARE while letting another (SRS) continue to exist even with documentation that they dox and have had someone removed from their job. Hell, they brag about it.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 19 points20 points  (8 children)

In addition to posing as members to mislead newcomers? If they put this much energy in actually bettering themselves, the world might be a better place.

[–]NikoMyshkin 10 points11 points  (6 children)

in a way, the whole Red Pill thing has made me empathise with people who fall for religious cults. as in the whole Blue Pill / White knightery mindfuck enslaves the poor TBP victim who will fight tooth and nail to remain an unhappy, unfulfilled slave.

[–]Moldy_Gecko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Good point, we must be vigilant and active to downvote all misogyny during this time

[–]NikoMyshkin 52 points53 points  (7 children)

look, at the end of the day if/when Reddit goes suicidal and tries to ban what made it successful in the first place, we already have a new place set up :-)

TRP ideology set us free. it is not going away :-)

[–]ILikeToWriteInBold 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Could you share this new place for those of us who don't already know? I'd be devastated if this was removed and I'd not followed where it went to

[–]NikoMyshkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

http://puerarchy.com/

on TRP's sidebar is a link to an email alert informing you of the move when (not if) chairman Pao bans us.

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[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Their definition of "active harrasment" is wishy-washy nonsense.

Reddit Admins have replaced subreddit mods before like when the r/ wow mod shut the subreddit down completely. Wouldn't that be a more sensible option first?

[–]InferiousX 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SRS's entire foundation is built on targeting other users yet you'll never see it get removed.

All Hail Chairwoman Pao.

[–]LandShark805 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's not over until the editors of Imgur get posted on FPH, and then they sing.

[–]RoadToOneFifty 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Most people are outraged about this and pushing back. There's a glimmer of hope here.

[–]jolly--roger 52 points53 points  (2 children)

The problem is they're powerless. It will blow over in a couple days and that will be it.

[–]Razgriz16 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't think they are powerless in terms of potential. We all have the power to change the system, stop gilding and asking advertisers to stop advertising on a website that censors it's users. However, people think that making memes is going to change something, so realistically nothing will happen and the people will indeed remain powerless.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Have a look at r/all

it's like they stepped on a hornets nest

[–]Dildo_Saggins 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I didn't think they'd actually do it. But here we are.

[–]tyrroi 4 points5 points  (2 children)

We could potentially get a lot of sympathy and support from getting banned though. If people disagree with the Admins banning other sub's they might think we are alright if the admins ban us too.

[–]thebalrog_ofmorgoth 14 points15 points  (0 children)

i'd prefer for this sub not to become a martyr, if it can be at all avoided.

[–]aboveaveragebabydick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So? Men don't benefit from sympathy

[–]docbloodmoney 486 points487 points  (68 children)

My theory: this was 100% about fatpeoplehate, because their posts regularly hit r/all. The other 4 subs were distractions, so the admins can claim otherwise. They will continue to ban subs in small chunks, each time including one bigger sub that hasn't broken any rules but still pisses them off (KiA, TiA, trp, etc)

[–][deleted] 211 points212 points  (9 children)

Well done seeing through the squid ink. This is 100% on the money - they give a shit about what has the most visibility and is against their worldview. If FPH only had 100 subscribers and never hit r/all, they wouldn't care. It's not about subs "breaking rules", it's about censoring anyone with views that depart visibly and significantly enough from theirs.

[–]GrammerNaziParadox 72 points73 points  (5 children)

It's also about satisfying their main user base, and since Reddit users in general are pretty liberal, anytime something like FPH or TRP hits the front page they get angry because these posts oppose their views. It's like if Hillary Clinton had a 15 minute time-slot everyday on Fox News' prime-time, the people watching would all be pissed because they are conservative and would consequently start watching Fox News less and reduce Fox's profitability.

Anyways, the Reddit owners want to keep their revenue resource around, the users, so they have to appease them by weeding out content that opposes their world-view on the front-page.

[–]Quantic 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Probably a fair and logical conclusion to make; this thread angers their customers - the users. I don't even necessarily think the admins might have hated fatpeoplehate. Attrition of your user base is a pretty good reason to ban a relatively small sub for the greater economical gain.

[–]GrammerNaziParadox 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I also saw someone point out on another thread that advertising on Reddit becomes a public image liability to potential and current advertisers if their ads could possibly be associated with a sub-reddit as toxic as FPH, so "bad" subreddits like FPH negatively impact Reddit's two sources of revenue, the user base and advertisers (although the user side is more important because ad revenue is more reliant on it than vice-versa).

[–]Trpidation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is funny to me because literally the only reason I use reddit is for TRP.

[–]elevul 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No, it's about censoring anything that impacts their ad revenue.

[–][deleted] 55 points56 points  (6 children)

Can/have we opted out of appearing on r/all?

[–]Milky_Boob 32 points33 points  (5 children)

This. Why don't the admins just block subs they don't like from the frontpage?

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

I'm pretty certain TRP has opted out. I've never seen us in it.

[–]Windforce 24 points25 points  (1 child)

That's actually a good thing. :)

[–]Danedina 10 points11 points  (1 child)

This thread is currently #23

[–]teeelo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On your front page.

Log out and you won't see TRP anywhere.

[–]2IVIaskerade 57 points58 points  (3 children)

because their posts regularly hit r/all[

I reckon it was because a media outlet was running a story that might make reddit look bad.

As with Creepshots and Jailbait before it, Reddit doesn't care until the media gets a hold of it and starts going after them, at which point they backpedal right off the cliff.

The amount of gold bought in FPH was staggering. It was one of the most active subreddits (if you exclude the defaults, probably the most active) and it wasn't going to go away either, with 150,000 subscribers showing no signs of slowing down.

Once again, reddit doesn't care until it's made to look bad.

[–]docbloodmoney 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Wasn't aware of that news story, makes sense too. Doesn't change the fact that this was completely about FPH, not the other banned subs

[–]2IVIaskerade 2 points3 points  (0 children)

not the other banned subs

One of which was just a backup for FPH in the first place.

[–]occupythekitchen 62 points63 points  (9 children)

black people twitter is safe though. so ironic I'd make fat people twitter now

[–]sushisection 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Black people twitter is funny though and doesn't target specific individuals... make fat people twitter funny like that and it would be alright.

[–]NikoMyshkin 6 points7 points  (4 children)

doesn't target specific individuals

ummm... targets black people tho? and the difference is that being fat IS A CHOICE (not shouting at you)

[–]sushisection 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Not like fatpeoplehate where it's like "let's all laugh at this one fat guy"

Blackpeopletwitter is more like "black american culture has a unique style of comedy, here... enjoy"

[–]NikoMyshkin 4 points5 points  (2 children)

hmm fair enough - culture can be changed therefore is fair game for criticism and lampooning. however i've always felt that fph was a backlash against the normalisation and celebration of obesity. and I am all for that backlash. obesity should only ever be looked at for what it is: a state of physical illness that causes irreparable harm as long as one is in it.

[–]sushisection 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah plus obesity signals a lot about a person's character. You know, society used to be like fatpeoplehate. Remember the fat kid in Willy Wonka who got stuck in a tube? That shit wouldn't fly today. A girl getting huge and then getting rolled away by midgets would not fucking happen in today's coddled society

[–]NotAKiddieDiddler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The two are quite different thought. One is a "laugh with you" thing and one is "laugh at you"

[–]GrammerNaziParadox 8 points9 points  (7 children)

It's also about satisfying their main user base, Reddit users in general are pretty liberal, so anytime something like FPH or TRP hits the front page they get angry that anyone could possibly disagree with their world view. It's like if Hillary Clinton had a 15 minute time-slot everyday on Fox News' prime-time, the people watching would all be pissed because they are conservative.

The Reddit owners want to keep their revenue resource around, the users, so they have to appease them by weeding out content that opposed their worldview on the front-page.

[–]RPSigmaStigma 16 points17 points  (6 children)

Are you kidding? No one is going to stop coming to reddit because they're offended. These people are addicted to outrage and drama. These are the same people who cyber-stalked a professors personal Facebook and then accused him of "harassing" them when they found exactly what they expected to find. These people go out of their way to get "offended". It's the victimhood olympics.

[–]GrammerNaziParadox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Enjoying victim-hood and circle-jerking are not mutually exclusive.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We're an essay based subreddit so it's not in our nature to hit r/all. As long as we don't fly too close to the sun, we should be safe.

[–]NikoMyshkin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

safe - what have we done that we should even worry about what these oppressors might do? TRP has done nothing wrong. quite the opposite. when Chairman Pao finally bans TRP we will move to the new site.

this idea is bigger than us. it is the path to freedom and satisfaction in life. Pao cannot stop that.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Look at r/all right now. They already created a new subreddit and their stuff is hitting the front page.

[–]One_friendship_plz 1 point2 points  (1 child)

To back up your theory, imgur has a bunch of fatties in their company that are banning pictures that make fun of fat people. Imgur probably threatened reddit about the problem in hopes of it reducing the amount of accounts/pictures they have to delete because their feelings are hurt.

Reddit had no choice but to listen and ban the following subreddits.

Reddit is not a profitable company and they have to take whatever money they can get and if their advertisers bail on them then it'll be bad.

[–][deleted] 157 points158 points  (13 children)

Ready to branch swing fellas?

My inner male hypergamy tells me Reddit is not the real dela anymore.

[–]abcd_z 100 points101 points  (10 children)

Yeah. Reddit's really losing SMV (Social Market Value).

[–]sushisection 192 points193 points  (5 children)

Reddit is just playing dread game on us

[–]Darkwoodz 57 points58 points  (0 children)

That's some meta shit right there.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Dread game doesn't work on guys. That's grounds for dismissal.

[–]SneakyTouchy 55 points56 points  (2 children)

If we are next, we will next.

[–]NikoMyshkin 13 points14 points  (1 child)

i love this. i'd gild you but i don't want to support fucking Chairman fucking Pao

[–]imgonnabethegreatest 80 points81 points  (8 children)

If this sub and asktrp do go down, it was worth it while it lasted. I learned a lot from you guys and completely turned my life around for the better. Thanks guys, as one of the younger guys here I learned something from every post and greatly appreciate the effort put in to try to help the young men like me.

I realize that there is a failsafe in place but we won't be as connected as we are now through Reddit. Good luck in the rest of your Red Pill journeys gentleman.

[–]zaiguy 27 points28 points  (7 children)

Get on the mailing list, find who you can on Twitter and keep your eyes open. Eventually a TRP Moses will appear to lead the community to a new land of milk and honey.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haha "TRP Moses", I like that.

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[–][deleted] 1150 points1151 points  (79 children)

If trp does get banned, I want to thank every single one of you here. Seriously, this sub reddit has influenced and changed my life so much for the better and I dont mean just in case of getting laid, no just overall improvement. Thank you gents!

[–][deleted] 192 points193 points  (11 children)

backs up all the material on the sidebar

[–]RojoEscarlata 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Share a link to the archive, I know all the side bar by heart, but is always good to have it.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (7 children)

It's about a 1.5 gigs right now. I suppose it could be a torrent but I'd prefer someplace with the bandwidth to host it properly.

Edit: it's mostly the 7 part movie and a bunch of ebooks listed/talked about in the sub. I just TPB'd them all.

Edit 2: here's a reply I sent to those who PM'd me :

Just getting to my mailbox. Yikes there are a lot of people asking for a torrent. Tell you what. In a couple of hours I'm going to coordinate with another redditor who has offered to share their collection to make sure I have everything and vice versa . After that I'll send out some messages and post on the sub. (Copy/pasta to multiple ppl).

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Now's the time to make a torrent!

[–]Stonish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll download even 15 gigs if you make it so.

[–]2wiseclockcounter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

pm me so we can see if I have any of the ebooks you don't. I'd like to add them to the cause.

[–]JCPennyCEO 121 points122 points  (30 children)

we should make a /v/TheRedPill on Voat.co if there isn't one already.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 227 points228 points  (27 children)

It exists and I moderate, but the official backup site for now is www.Puerarchy.com. That is our rally point should something happen to the sub here.

[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (7 children)

You should make a sticky post to inform everyone that does not know.

[–]1xwm 30 points31 points  (4 children)

It is already on the side bar. (Under the heading "The Official Failsafe for TRP")

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (2 children)

I think because we're hitting the emergency zone there should be a sticky post. We might not have much time.

[–]SMEGMA_CHEESE 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It hurts so much that Reddit is being taken over by people I hate, but really, as the 4Chan post from earlier also states, it's just good business practice. I need to find a new safe haven that will be immune to the bullshit. I spend enough time in real life escaping the SJWs, I don't want to have to do it in my homeland (The Internet), too. I knew this would come eventually, but it's fucking terrible.

[–]FishFoxFerret 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Without a forum that's a weak rally point.

On a similar note, anyone know what the deal with this is: http://redpillmen.org/forum/index.php?sid=c46c4ef8342741a8f46a29efb1bc06b7 ?

[–]1laserdicks 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Nah a new forum can be created, but purearchy.com will serve as the direction to it; the really point isn't the final destination it's just a strong, accessible, long-lasting, single point that everyone can find therefore remaining together before moving on.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As someone who just found TRP and havent gotten to read through much, thanks for the new book mark.

[–]MicroMinion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The interface of Puerarchy is really a lot different than reddit though. Even though the posts on there are high quality, is there any way to make it more like reddit and have the community be able to make posts and upvote downvote etc? The upvote system has been shitty for a LOT of subreddits however at TRP people seem to be able to seperate the good and the bad posts quite well.

[–]ChiliManiac 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You should seriously set up a user forum. Just saying.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Things are in action.

[–]revofire 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Make an official forum on the website.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Things are in action.

[–]Razgriz16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's also a lot of posts on here that aren't in the top 500, but also deserved to be archived in case of the feelz ban. Is there a public google docs or something similar that people can use to copy paste quality posts from here?

[–]Faranae 66 points67 points  (9 children)

I would give you gold, but I am no longer comfortable supporting this website. Shame, I renewed my own less than a week ago.

Edit: Whoops. Re-visited on PC where CSS is enabled and noticed the giant "DO NOT COMMENT OR VOTE" attached to my post. Apologies.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 74 points75 points  (7 children)

Noone in TRP should give people gold now because really reddit is getting ready to put us on the chopping block.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I get that feeling..

5 years I've been a redditor, and just last month I created a script to delete all my history because I'm starting to feel like pretty soon it'll be relevant.

[–]Kewl_Kid 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I agree with you, but on the other hand, if our subreddit gifts a lot of gold, we will become more valuable to reddit. They are a for-profit after all.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Yeah but do you want to give money to a feminist flooded shithole?

[–]Kewl_Kid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, you're right, I really don't

[–]rich_ripped_redneck 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Everybody check out the backup http://puerarchy.com/ , it has the top 500 posts on there and much more. Would be a lot better with a comments section or something...

[–]NikoMyshkin 13 points14 points  (4 children)

it will happen for sure when TRP is banned. sooner the better in some ways i guess. Reddit under Pao is fast becoming a shitfest.

[–]SMEGMA_CHEESE 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is what happens when you put a manipulative bitch in power. Everything just ends up being a hidden agenda to hide her own personal insecurities. I was married to a girl like her, Asian too, and it was awful.

[–]NikoMyshkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

she is a really horrible person with some seriously twisted misandrist views.

[–]devlindigital 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Truth. Changed my life and has reaffirmed it every day since.

[–]Verlier 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm still struggling but I couldn't be half of what I am now without this sub.

Thank you guys.

[–]Reforging_Souls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm with this guy; I want to thank you all for providing me with a missing piece to the puzzle.

Seriously, thank you.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks for the ride guys. You've helped me a lot.

[–]ColdEiric 7 points8 points  (2 children)

We will find some other place to hang around.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDownvoteToDisagree 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Puerarchy.com is the official backup.

[–]NikoMyshkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

there's a mailng list to notify you when (not if) TRP is deemed worthy of a ban. see the sidebar.

[–]Masonjarteadrinker2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here everything this guy said, thank you gentlemen.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ditto. Life changing shit. Had a good time lurking, boys.

[–]jaysire 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is a good mental exercise: what if trp closed today? Would you be ok? I know I've, as far as I can tell myself, have internalised the information to a degree that makes this sub fun to have, but no longer essential. Thanks for helping me do that.

[–]moiez326 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know there is a plan b newsletter that you can subscribe to? Its because of this pao administration that there is one.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was just getting started man. I'll definitely be missing TRP if it's gone. But nonetheless I'm happy for you. I'm glad I got to read so many people who can actually see through all the bullshit in the world today.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Keep reading, keep following and keep improving. Its been 3 4 months since I have started working on myself and the change is just amazing.

[–]Lord_Varys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of you are fucked up assholes, but this sub has changed my life for the better, too.

[–]Senior Contributordr_warlock 341 points342 points 2 (28 children)

From this point on, no one shall give gold, only state it as a comment. Do not give these people money.

[–]BowlOfCandy 89 points90 points  (2 children)

Hah, that kind of talk will get this place banned

[–]knitro 21 points21 points [recovered]

It's a start, but the only way to really hit them is to stop coming to the site all together. No traffic = No business.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Why dont we migrate then? TRP is the only reason I come to this shithole now

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[–]Razgriz16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because there's so much here already. I have thousands of save posts, hundreds from trp. It would be a painful process, but truly overall rewarding. I'd rather not leave reddit personally, but try to work towards changing the system. Ask advertisers to stop advertising on reddit due to censorship and stop giving gold is a good start.

[–]yumyumgivemesome 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We're not the only people on reddit upset about the censorship. This is a great idea to state in comments that a person is deserving of gold but that you do not want to support reddit based on its censorship policies.

[–]vissil[🍰] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought TheRedPill was one of the places that gave gold more often than other subreddits (when considering the number of people subscribed). If this is a profitable subreddit, why would they want to get rid of it?

[–]1plusperspective 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Because the are doubling down on advertising and data aggregation as the business model. You aren't the consumer anymore, you are the product.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Too late. http://imgur.com/XJCqwQT You can almost hit refresh and watch that counter move up from all the gold giving rage...

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Gold's probably what keeps us alive...

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No it's not... look at how little gold gets given out around here. We're not putting huge $$$ into reddit's pockets.

[–]cdnz0mbie 153 points154 points  (32 children)

Yep, ppl are already mentioning redpill and being upvoted hard. Surprisingly not as many as SRS though.

[–]2IVIaskerade 144 points145 points  (24 children)

Seriously. Everyone who isn't SRS hates SRS.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (14 children)

I actually saw someone say that both Redpill and SRS should be banned. Made me wonder what their ideology was since TRP and SRS are very antithetical.

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 83 points84 points  (8 children)

It's apathy. Most people don't care and honestly just use Reddit as a time waster. Which is cool for them, but it means that TRP and SRS can often appear like equally opposite fringe groups of all you want out of reddit is funny cat videos.

[–]occupythekitchen 10 points11 points  (3 children)

that's the problem people want to pick and choose based on their likes because everyone has to be alike to be normal. I'll tell my soon normal are those who see and understand the differences the rest are fools

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[–]2IVIaskerade 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Just because they're not a raging SJW doesn't mean they can't also hate TRP.

Frankly, I'm not surprised that most people on reddit don't like it.

[–]seanan1gans 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Sorry for the ignorance, but what is SRS?

[–]DaphneDK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love SRS. I use it as an index for interesting and fun posts. It's like a bestof of reddit.

They banned me though :( I bet I have subreddit ban score better than most.

[–]solbrothers 12 points13 points  (4 children)

As ironic as it is, i was talking to a girl and things were going extremely well. We had stuff in common etc. Well she found my sn and saw that i had posted ONCE in this sub. She was a self proclaimed feminist and sjw. I later saw that she was a regular poster in fph. Strange how that works.

[–]RedPill115 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Some people will disagree with me, but I think TheRedPill is just the male version of feminism. Difference is mainly that TRP isn't pretending to help everyone in pursuit of "what's best for me, and how can I improve my own life?".

[–]solbrothers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not mad at this. Men are not allowed to have meninism so we have trp.

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'll disagree because feminism has long since mutated from a group pushing for equal rights to an agressive, toxic social and political movement.

TRP is the men's help guide that should have come in the starter box.

[–]Jame_Bond 264 points265 points  (50 children)

This guy get's it

"Our goal is to enable as many people as possible to have authentic conversations and share ideas and content on an open platform."

Look, I've never posted in r/fatpeoplehate and never visited it, but can we drop the charade and everyone just come out and admit that all this is about making reddit's user base more palatable for advertisers? Coca-cola doesn't want to be associated with r/jailbait or whatever, I get that. Reddit needs to monetize because it's not profitable, I get that too. But let's stop pretending this is about ivory-tower ideals of community and free speech. Reddit has never been about free speech, and the isolated-island format with moderators having dictatorial control over their potentially-walled gardens hampers an honest exchange of ideas in favour of increased groupthink and radicalized discourse. Free speech and "authentic conversations" (whatever the fuck that means) isn't out there waiting in the wings for r/fatpeoplehate to be banned. Advertisers are. They don't want their ads accidentally popping up on r/ihatejews or something and then a media shitstorm erupting, so the admins need to sanitize. Ellen Pao is a lawyer and an MBA: you don't bring someone like that on board to create an ideal utopia. You call in the MBA's when you need to turn something that was idealistic into a profit stream. "Authentic conversations" is the most business-school phrase I've heard in quite some time. How about the admins treat us like adults instead of like idiots?

As much as I absolutely hate Ellen Pao this is a business strategy in attempt to bring reddit profit. I hate what she is doing to the place and I hate that it might mean the destruction of the community we have built together from scratch but at the end of the day reddit is a company and all company's care about is profit. Reddit hasn't made profit in a very long time so as much as I hate it, I understand what they're attempting to do. I just hope it works for them because they've officially lost my support and my views.

[–][deleted] 56 points57 points  (2 children)

And she gets the praises of the sjws. Its really a shrewd move. Someone discovered sjws are an untapped market to make money off of and now the exploitation has begun. Tess holiday isnt on the cover of people because shes an inspiration, shes on the cover because theres a high amount of delusional, instant gratifaction seeking people with wallets to make $ off of. Reddit realizes this too.

[–]Rathadin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Tess holiday

I've never heard of this hamplanet until today.

Of course she's from my home state of Mississippi. Doing her part to help it remain fattest state in the union I see.

I'm so glad I got the fuck away from there. The saddest part is her face. She would be drop dead gorgeous if she were 300 lbs. lighter.

Uh on, Reddit admins, better ban me... I'm expressing disdain at large humans.

[–]NikoMyshkin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

gotta love the free market economy.

[–]1grubek 155 points156 points  (6 children)

Correct. Banning salary negotiation was a cost reducing measure masqueraded as feminism.

[–]antariusz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they were interested in cost reduction measures... why not axe a few of the admins who spend the majority of their workday censoring reddit?

From a business sense, free speech is cheaper.

[–]Lord_Varys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, I think she authentically believed it was the right thing.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

This is the kinda of shit that gives me hope. Large companies will continue to do whatever the fuck they want.

[–]disposable_pants 2 points3 points  (2 children)

How does large companies making their own rules give you hope?

[–]Myrpl 31 points32 points  (21 children)

I don't even understand the reasoning. Did they asked people why they don't use Reddit and they responded with "because there are potential places that we can visit that we disagree with"?

Because why attempt to expose people to different worldviews when we can outright dismiss them?

[–]Jame_Bond 193 points194 points  (17 children)

Gentrification, here's the explanation: https://imgur.com/OJw5sxk

[–]k3rn3 31 points32 points  (6 children)

See the SRS store, for all your overpriced anti free speech merchandise needs

http://www.zazzle.com/fempire

[–]1Halfjor 18 points19 points  (1 child)

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The logic one gets me.. Isn't logic supposed to be based in reality?

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[–]Windforce 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I am from Europe, so I didn't "get" most of the political messages on these merchandise. Tbh, I wouldn't use these even if they were given to me for free. I mean what is "This is what a strong ally looks like" on a T shirt? WTF

[–]docbloodmoney 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's to let all the women around know that you are an unfuckable pathetic beta

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's just a bad joke at this point.

[–]solbrothers 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Really good read. Thanks for sharing it.

[–]1grubek 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Its not about people, its about attracting ads.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. If you don't pay for an online service, like Reddit, then you're the product being sold. The advertisers are the customers.

[–]Super-Saiyajin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jokes on them! Adblock FTW!

[–]jcrpta 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does Reddit's advertising platform not allow for blacklisting/whitelisting subreddits for your advert to show on?

[–]1independentmale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is a business strategy in attempt to bring reddit profit

That's not the entire picture. It can't be. It would be trivial to simply not advertise on subs like fatpeoplehate, or even allow advertisers to select subs they want (or don't want) their ads to appear on. This is not rocket science. There may be business owners who might actually be interested in advertising to the likes of fat haters, so if anything reddit is reducing its potential income by reducing the size of its audience.

This is a full SJW attack. It's not about the money.

[–]peoplearejustpeople9 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Yeah we need to bail soon. Any alternatives to reddit?

[–]-Quotidian 10 points11 points  (2 children)

For TRP? Puerarchy apparently. Check the sidebar.

[–]Str8tuptrollin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I didn't think puerachy had forums though

[–]RPSigmaStigma 5 points6 points  (0 children)

When the time comes, an alternative will be set up and announced on that site.

[–]jcrpta 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There's voat.co; a rp subreddit already exists on there:

https://voat.co/v/theredpill

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It does, but the official rally point for the time being is www.Puerarchy.com

[–]Dylan_Tnga 81 points82 points  (41 children)

FPH2 is already up and running. Never knew of that sub before, am browsing it now.... fucking HILARIOUS. I don't hate fat people, but I hate the idea that it's acceptable to be fat.. and I DESPISE the idea of it being considered a form of beauty.

TLDR : No fat chicks.

[–]link5057 9 points10 points  (1 child)

fatpersonhate is also up as an "official sub"

[–]ZombieMushroom420 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was on it for a while, but it just got banned as well. It managed to get over 25,000 subscribers though.

[–]redpillliger 20 points21 points  (7 children)

It's absolutely hilarious to see the lengths that lazy land-whales will go to rationalize their laziness.

[–]NikoMyshkin 7 points8 points  (2 children)

it's more just sad for me really. here in the UK the obese claim benefits as long as they stay obese. and they cost the NHS silly money.

[–]Dylan_Tnga 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I've actually lost friends over my stance on fat people before. on Facebook I firmly stated that fat women have NO BUSINESS wearing a bikini at the beach (I was disgusted by this article from some obese lady saying "I WENT TO THE BEACH IN A BIKINI AND NOTHING HAPPENED!! :D" , and I had all the BP males, white knights, and fat chicks bitching all over it dripping gravy all over my status.

[–]Super-Saiyajin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

DUDE!!!! This fat chick who blames it on becoming a mom posted some shit about being proud to show off her fat body in a bikini. NOBODY want's to see that shit!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing happened because she didn't pass the boner test. Don't you know women going to the beach in bikini's get hit on by low SMV betas and raped* by guys every day of the week because PATRIARCHY or something.

  • Rape can include eye-rape which by looking at a woman you are supposedly raping her or some stupid other SJW definition of rape.

[–]The-Ride-Never-Ends 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Reddit open source? Someone could make a clone of reddit just for TRP.

[–]Max_Jets 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Open source doesn't necessarily mean open for all to use. Although the websites code is visible I'm sure it's protected by multiple copyright laws to prevent clones

[–]XCowboyLowkesx 125 points126 points  (61 children)

It's a rather interesting dilemma reddit finds itself in. While SJWs and manginas complain about us here fervently, it would be a rather balsy move to ban r/theredpill when we have over 100,000 members. That doesn't sound that impressive but In reality that is a huge number. While the owners of reddit are trying to make it a more PC environment, banning subreddits is just going to lead in the exact opposite direction they want; reduced numbers and reduced income, eventually going the way of MySpace, digg and bebo. Obscurity.

[–]VictorEremitaK 240 points241 points  (25 children)

Fatpeoplehate had 150.000 subscribers.

[–]NikoMyshkin 92 points93 points  (4 children)

Jesus Pao really has no fucking clue

[–]my_redpill_account 3 points4 points  (1 child)

aw man don't punish Jesus and put him down at her level.

[–]NikoMyshkin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

as an atheist, i'd say i was out of line with that. sorry Jesus.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 108 points109 points  (12 children)

If this sub is banned, I'm fairly likely to delete my Reddit shortcut from my browser and simply not use this site at all, and I'm active in many subs across multiple user accounts. I'm just one guy, offering them a small number of clicks, but fuck it, I'll not offer a spirit of compliance with their bullshit.

[–]sushisection 87 points88 points  (8 children)

Yeah trp is the only sub that has had substantial postive impact in my life. It's a damn shame people think this is a hate group, the only thing we hate are our former selves.

[–]emblasochist 43 points44 points  (1 child)

I don't think most RP guys even hate their former selves; they just hate that we accepted the lies that most everyone told us about how relationships do and should work.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 53 points54 points  (0 children)

No, I pretty much hate my former self. On the other hand, I hate many ex-girlfriends a lot less now that I understand their (and my) nature better.

It's all been a long journey of course, and always will be, but it's incredible how much real change has happened as a result of just a little bit of reading, chewing on it, raging a bit, and then making a plan. The beauty of men...our superpower, is our ability to objectively, efficiently, reject feels and do the fucking work and become something entirely different and better. Dude, I love how my wife, other men, and other women respond to me now, but one thing I don't hear much here is how much more proud of me my Dad seems to be. That's pretty great.

Given that anecdote, from a decidedly non-woman hating guy, I'd love to hear a rebuttal that holds this as a hate sub.

[–]NikoMyshkin 14 points15 points  (2 children)

i don't associate TRP with any form of hate at all. for me it's just what Rollo says - don't wish the game was easier - wish that you were better.

then go and work on your self to MAKE your self better. TRP is a positive, life-affirming, freeing ideology and one that has only had a positive impact on me and everyone around me.

[–]rcglinsk 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Fatpersonhate (can't link directly) is up to 19,000 after about 2 hours.

[–][deleted] 83 points84 points  (10 children)

FPH was higher and was one of their first targets.

Don't forget fallout from people who were previously all kept into one space now leaking out into the other places to wreck havoc out of vengeance.

[–]AbioticFountain 40 points40 points [recovered]

actually though. In the announcement thread alone there were a ton of "found the fatty" comments. kinda ironic to watch it backfire.

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (4 children)

They basically set the wolves loose expecting them to just behave like sheep or something... bad fucking idea.

[–]2IVIaskerade 25 points26 points  (3 children)

They walked into a zoo and opened the lion enclosure.

Those walls aren't there for the lion's benefit.

[–]NikoMyshkin 17 points18 points  (2 children)

They walked into a zoo and opened the lion enclosure

more like just unceremoniously deleted the entire enclosure so that the lions just suddenly found themselves walking amongst the other animals

[–]RedditArgument 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And not only that but they liked that cage! Why did the zookeeper take away my cage? "You were being too much of a lion, now that you're not in the lion cage you're a sheep ok?"

I think the zookeeper is getting a reality check.

[–]link5057 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was my thought exactly. I guarantee there is a huge boom of across-Reddit FPH going on RIGHT NOW as lashback. 150k is a large amount of people to try and shut down, and assuming many of those people are reddit addicted like many people who use reddit are, they will be spending awhile banning those who make those 'mean hurtful comments'.

[–]sushisection 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What's stopping them from making alternative subs?

[–]thisiskindofmessedup 50 points51 points  (20 children)

I doubt it would be a big deal. People hate us here. They'll just blindly and wrongly see it as a bunch of misogynists whining.

But I would love to see that shitstorm happen though. I hate most of Reddit with a passion because of the echo chamber it has become. I love this sub though and think it would do well on another site with a comparable voting system.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (3 children)

really can't wrap my head around the fact that there are literally subreddits dedicated to hating women

That is what one person said. It's funny the ignorance a lot of Redditors have about this place.

Jerry Seinfeld was right.

[–]link5057 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Jerry Seinfeld was right.

I'm not clued in yet, right about what?

[–]CSMastermind 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Seinfeld recently said he won't play college campuses because of their PC attitudes. He said that it's not worth dealing with the media fallout when you offend people. Specifically he mentioned doing jokes about Bruce Jenner

[–]vox_veritas 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Her name is, and has always been, Caitlyn, you shitlord!

/s

[–]coffee_and_lumber 13 points14 points  (1 child)

People hate us here.

This just gave me a glow of pleasure. A tingle if you will.

[–]iamz3ro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If no one hates you, you're doing something wrong.

  • House MD

[–]1Jaereth 5 points6 points  (1 child)

/agree. It's all pros. Plus we'll filter out about 10 posts a month about "OMG guys do you think they will ban?" that are really inconsequential anyway.

I can easily edit my reddit-r-tpr link on my hot button to easily be whatever the new site is in about 20 seconds. Bring it on.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (10 children)

comparable voting system

This voting system is reddit's biggest flaw. It is the reason for everything bad with this site. It would be bad to incorporate anything resembling this system anywhere for any reason.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Reddit is really easy to read though; I've yet to find a nicer UI. The ubiquitous forum software used elsewhere is just awful; when a thread gets popular all you see is "1 2 3 ... 144 145 146". Voting- wise, Slashdot's karma system is my favorite: you need to post good content before you can go vote on stuff yourself; keeps the brigades and trolls in check.

So, where do we go when this sub closes, again?

[–]botbullet0 16 points17 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Agreed. It's the voting system that allows the echo chamber. It's a good idea but it's completely abused. A regular, old fashioned forum is fine. I do however really like Reddit's web format for the mobile site.

[–]sushisection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I prefer reddit ' s style of comment threading compared to the usual forum squares. This one is way easier to read conversations and have dialog up with multiple people without getting twisted and having to backtrack

[–]PhranticPenguin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reddit is open-source! It should be possible to get clones up with different guys behind it. The only issue would be servercosts, which are hard to cover with a large enough userbase (100K+ on TRP as subscribers already, not counting viewers)

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Wait why? I like the fact that shit posts usually stay out of rp sub frontpage, isn't it like a auto moderation by users?

[–]unassumingusername7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It is at first, and then it becomes confirmation bias, eventually leading to groupthink and circlejerks.

[–]GainzdalfTheWhey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well yeah, that why we have the master mods, they then filter the top posts for that instead of everything. Praise the modverlords

[–]occupythekitchen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

also huge mistake we like big money hobbies and most of us have disposable income. we are just a boys club and guess what those sell. top dollar liquor and cigars. cars bikes and boats

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (1 child)

As much as I disagree with many of the posts here, I still visit frequently with an open mind or for different perspectives. Destroying this particular echo chamber, harmless to any it could offend, would sadden me as I quite like the sound and believe that containing it would make it far from noise in the outside world.

Goodbye RedPill from a non RedPiller (sane person according to the rest of Reddit). I hated you guys but I sincerely respected you too.

Hopefully nothing changes and I could continue to lurk.

[–]grad14uc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also a non RedPiller. I never really understood the hate for this place; it's easy enough to ignore and there's nothing wrong with a differing perspective to the "norm".

[–]mkopec 86 points87 points  (15 children)

Bah, soon as reddit goes the way of swj, it will just become another place people leave for some other place that will inevitably show up that is pro free speech.

Its baffling how our society is caving to this shitty feminist/pc movement.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 72 points73 points  (10 children)

Why is it baffling?

Women are equal-superior-awesome-always-right victims of patriarchy. Even the mock rape victims. Especially the mock rape victims - he must have done something! She must be innocent! Believe us or we will publicly attack, shame, harass and threaten you!

White knights to the rescue! Do not challenge the feminine imperative!

The goal of this is female control, and most men are too stupid or weak to stop it. And it's going to get a LOT worse before it gets better.

They've proved unworthy of wielding power fairly, it is being turned against us. Remove their power before it's too late, gents.

[–]NikoMyshkin 35 points36 points  (3 children)

Women are equal-superior-awesome-always-right victims of patriarchy.

what feminism has become in practice. shameful.

[–]199639 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I know it gets posted a lot so I don't mean to be repetitive, but really, it's true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CWomen_are_wonderful%E2%80%9D_effect

[–]NikoMyshkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah, this myth is something i remember from my pre-RP days. the conflation of beauty with truth and wisdom. oh: what folly.

[–]Jaereth 18 points18 points [recovered]

It's all about the money man. You have to have a certain image if you want big name advertisers to use the site (In the open, as opposed to how they do it secretly now)

People don't seem to remember: When you have a website generating millions and millions of hits a day, you got something there. Something valuable, regardless of content.

The writings been on the wall for a while now. They are not caving to feminist/pc movement, they are prepping this place to cash out.

[–]SwordfshII 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pao has legal bills to pay

[–]mkopec 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If thats true, and im sure it is since it makes sense, than at least there is a reason for it other than SJW bullshit. But either way, once the censorship starts, its the beginning of the end. Saw it at 4chan, somethingawful and other places.

[–]2ShitsWithTheDoorOpen 53 points54 points  (6 children)

These feminist hamplanents will not take their abuse any longer! You can be sure TRP is one of the next targets. Fuck reddit though, I'm ready to jump ship. TRP has way too high quality userbase and content to be weighed down by these hams and SJWs anyways... Puerarchy will be just fine for our needs.

[–]NikoMyshkin 43 points44 points  (5 children)

when TRP goes I'm done with reddit

actually, that would be a huge boost to my productivity so bring it on Chairman Pao

[–]D_andreaWorkin 44 points45 points  (4 children)

CHAIRMAN??? chair-man???You deliberately mis-gendered her!!!

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Better prepare and warm myself up for the herd of new subscribers this will bring us.

[–]GASTON_TONNERRECOQ 3 points3 points [recovered]

oh no, this thread was linked in the body of the #1 /all subredditdrama post, whatever shall we do?

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's what convinced me of an upcoming spike in the first place. Just hit refresh and watch the number of subscribers rise in real time. Dis gon be gud.

[–]bobbybluepill 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, this is exactly what will happen. Happens every time. Check out the subscriber growth chart on RedditMetrics and you can see all the peaks. Anticipating another.

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points  (3 children)

"To keep everyone safe"

Yeah, in case reading something would the reader's life at risk.

[–]turbo_blender 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"To keep everyone safe"

it's like soviet inversion).

[–]sushisection 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because all of these man-babies and fragile little womyns can't defend themselves against the oh-so meany words on the screen. They need Big Sister Ellen to protect them.

[–]docbloodmoney 42 points43 points  (19 children)

and remember, www.puerarchy.com for news if we get banned

[–]Shade_Raven 4 points5 points  (17 children)

Yes but that isn't a forum

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt 38 points39 points  (13 children)

One will be stood up if it comes to that.

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 7 points8 points  (7 children)

What's stopping a forum now?

[–]coffee_and_lumber 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Probably because everyone's all over here.

[–]occupythekitchen 16 points17 points  (1 child)

servers why spend money now to compete

[–]1Dis_mah_mobile_one 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's what I figured, just curious.

[–]M3_Drifter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Social media (facebook, reddit, etc.) has taken over from the more limited single-topic forums of old. There are a number of reasons for this, from technological advancements to business to natural human lazyness.

So nothing stopping it, but you need money and a crew to maintain everything.

[–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Forum is basically ready to go, but we're a subreddit first, and won't detract from here unless shit is the fan.

[–]Archanine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hopefully it will. It'll be hilarious when that day comes.

[–]alphbux 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can we try to use the open source Reddit for it? I much prefer this format over normal online forums.

I'm thinking long term here, but could the TRP community somehow come up with an open Reddit style place? Where we have a strong set of values where censorship is not allowed?

[–]docbloodmoney 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They have a mailing list to let us know where the next forum will be

[–]moose_war 75 points76 points  (24 children)

I love the whiteknights in the comments saying how overjoyed they are about this and how they are wondering when TRP will go too. Yes, yes! Ban more ideas and free speech! Ban and censor ideas I do not like or understand!

Why do people hate this subreddit so much anyway? Most of it is geared towards improving men's lives, which in turn makes them better prospects for women as well.

This is the kind of place people like Elliott Rodger would hate.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (5 children)

Independence, self-discipline, and confidence are despised these days. I really don't understand it, but it's a serious reflection on the rest of the Reddit user base.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 27 points28 points  (1 child)

You can only be independent, disciplined and confident until that path is blocked by a big granite pedestal, atop which a fierce, independent womyn is standing. FIERCE!

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And that's when you rent a bulldozer and get rid of the pedestal.

[–]2IVIaskerade 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Independence, self-discipline, and confidence

All traits that make you able to succeed on your own. That makes you dangerous.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was talking to people about this recently. Society wants you to be weak, mindless, and spineless these days. Gone are the days when people wish to be like a successful person (physically, socially, monetarily), and now they just bitch and complain that those things "arent real" or "unattainable" because its easier to be a worthless piece of shit than to stand on your own two feet.

[–]Jaereth 22 points22 points [recovered]

I was reading the subredditdrama thread on it. One reddit user was calling for TRP's ban because, and I quote: They advocate treating women like they are sub-human.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 18 points19 points  (1 child)

If we even came close to actually treating women like they were sub-human, we'd have possibly been banned years ago.

[–]coffee_and_lumber 11 points12 points  (1 child)

whiteknights

aka "male-things" with shitty or non-existent fathers.

[–]jcrpta 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Why do people hate this subreddit so much anyway? Most of it is geared towards improving men's lives, which in turn makes them better prospects for women as well.

The men who hang around on here are usually in a fairly desperate place (yes, that bit about what the rest of reddit says about us is true); many are still in the anger stage.

The upshot is that at any given point in time, a lot of the posts on the frontpage of this sub are very much young men venting their anger. You have to dig deeper to understand what's being said - it takes a lot of reading, thinking and understanding to have any real grasp of RP philosophy. If you just took a casual glance for 5 minutes or so, you could easily be forgiven for thinking it's a circle jerk for what terrible people women are.

[–]RedPill115 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the kind of place people like Elliott Rodger would hate.

The site Elliot Rodgers read was called PuaHate, and they still claimed he was a PUA.

They're not people who have any attachment to logic or sense.

[–]mechdemon 6 points7 points  (4 children)

the funny part is those comments are ffew and far between as well as downvoted into oblivion.

[–]moose_war 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I only saw a few on the archive.

Seeing as we apparently have at least one subreddit dedicated to obsessively following and attempting to mock any post we make, I am sure there is a sizable amount of chubby redditors that would love to see us banned (but then, who would they talk about?)

[–]SwordfshII 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Seeing as we have at least one subreddit dedicated to obsessively following and attempting to mock any post we make

Exactly, isn't tbp harassing us?

[–]moose_war 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, actually. I just went there and they have a post calling for their subreddit to report this subreddit en masse to get it removed...sort of like harassment.

One of the reasons for doing this? Because this subreddit is "toxic" for reddit (huh?) and that "TRP harass women in general"....what? How can you harass a group of people "in general"? Where do we ever try to target users or really promote harassing people? We keep this sub pretty insulated, and most of the members advise to not even bother talking about this stuff outside of the subreddit.

It's hilarious how that group of people is geared much more towards harassment then TRP ever was.

[–]sinfulmentos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In fact, this is the kind of place that would PREVENT things like Elliot Rodgers from happening. Every man who becomes a red piller is one less man on the downward spiral of beta tendencies, lack of motivation, and being a failure at life. Somewhere down the line, some betas turn omega and a bit further down, desperation hits critical mass and the omega rapes a bitch.

Every man knows not to rape, that's not what we need to be teaching our boys. Knowing rape is wrong doesn't stop the omegas-maxes from doing it. We need to not let men get to that point to begin with. We need to teach our boys redpill.

Educating men on how women work and how the world works and urging them to improve themselves into confident, good looking, financially free men can only be a good thing for society.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

"First they came for fatpeoplehate, and I did not speak out - because I was a fat recovering beta..."

[–]FelixTheLeo 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Shit. That sub was hilarious.

[–]Goonermuzzy 47 points48 points  (3 children)

Fuck Reddit. Fuck this generation of pussies. This will be the end of reddit and it can burn for all I care. I can't wait till the backlash by real men and women takes out these fruity cunts.

[–]DoDraper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And Kim Jung Pao is there to serve all the SJW pussies with her own pussy. Sooner or later, I foresee this.

[–]NiceTryDisaster 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Trp and r/conspiracy are on the list as well

[–]Shade_Raven 89 points90 points  (44 children)

So fatpeoplehate goes but coontown is okie dokie.

Wow.

[–]2IVIaskerade 136 points137 points  (34 children)

BeatingTrannies, RapingWomen RIP, PhilosophyOfRape RIP, StruggleFucking, AbusePorn2, AntiPOZi, SlutJustice, CoonTown RIP, CuteFemaleCorpses...

But people making fun of fat people are the worst.

[–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

add picsofdeadkids to this and abortionporn

[–]LetsGoAllTheWhey 40 points41 points  (8 children)

Thanks for the list I really needed some new subreddits to follow.

[–]2IVIaskerade 13 points14 points  (7 children)

There's also

SexWithDogs, SexWithHorses, CandidFashionPolice, GreatApes, NecroPorn, DeepThroatTears (yeah boi!), Painal, SexyAbortions, Gore, GorePorn, WatchPeopleDie....

[–]turbo_blender 20 points21 points  (2 children)

SexWithDogs, SexWithHorses, NecroPorn, SexyAbortions,

what

what the fuck, TRP is fully politically correct compared to this.

[–]SlappaDaBayssMon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think there has ever been a riskier click. Wish me luck boys, I'm going in.

EDIT: It's safe.

[–]LetsGoAllTheWhey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But leave fat people alone.

[–]VictorEremitaK 19 points20 points  (9 children)

I don't understand why strugglefucking is on that list.

[–]BrunoOh 45 points46 points  (5 children)

Only vanilla missionary is politically correct.

[–]shuritsen 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Pfft not even then, I'm sure the SJWs will still claim it as rape because "consent can't be implied in picture, therefore, all pornographic images are rape" or some stupid shit like that.

[–]199639 0 points1 point  (1 child)

BDSM is about as politically incorrect as mocking the morbidly obese.

[–]sushisection 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Tell that to the millions of women who read 50 Shades.

[–]BigDiggerNick74 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They're already calling for TRP's head in the announcement thread.

Apparently trying to improve/educate guys and informing them how the real world really works is the worst.

[–]chill1995 1 point2 points  (0 children)

something something muhhh feelings

[–]WingTune0 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Coontown discusses race the same way TRP discusses sex, improvement, gender, biology, etc.
Sure there are countless rambling posts both on TRP and coontown, but everything here and there is supported by science and empirical data. Nothing flies here or there that isn't rooted in fact, so to say that you're mad at coontown for existing is the same as feminists being mad at TRP for existing- because everything being discussed there is true and goes against the brainwashing liberal media, much like the discussions here in TRP teach men how to be men and not fall for the pointless drivel when it comes to gender differences in the real world.

[–]522698632689 30 points31 points  (6 children)

This will prob be my last comment to Reddit. r/fatpeoplehate was my favorite sub and it was banned based on bullshit reasons. I'll get my red pill from puearchy. I refuse to give Reddit anymore traffic.

Goodbye.

[–]slimcoat 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Our goal is to enable as many people as possible to have authentic conversations and share ideas and content on an open platform.

And to achieve that goal, we will be systematically removing posts and subs that don't align with our personal beliefs.

[–]Shade_Raven 18 points19 points  (1 child)

its about becoming a corporate SafeSpaceTM to push advertisement and feminist agenda

[–]sushisection 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good luck with that.... There's so much porn on Reddit that they will have to deal with before big money gets into this.

I can only imagine the PR roller coaster when Pepsi has to defend endorsing gonewild

[–][deleted] 21 points21 points

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[–]ArchangelleFuckOff 7 points8 points  (2 children)

If you need a backup forum that won't bow down to people wielding Starbucks and fee-fees, 8ch.net will allow you to create a board that won't go anywhere.

[–]ethreax 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am a developer I,can create a website.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (5 children)

I will stop using reddit once TRP is gone.

What was the site we are migrating to when that happens?

[–]Shade_Raven 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Get on the mailing list in the sidebar

[–]kdenm8 34 points34 points [recovered]

It's been nice knowing you guys.

[–]Iupvoteforknowledge 10 points11 points  (1 child)

...its not like we are being hunted and killed dude, I'll see ya at the next forum once its announced.

[–]I3lizzard 8 points9 points  (2 children)

It's fucking infuriating man. There's nowhere left to go. These PC losers have taken control of everything.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 8 points9 points  (2 children)

In the post apocalyptic future the Red Pill is destroyed buy Red Pill Women lives on .

[–]Endorsed ContributorFLFTW16 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Consider joining r.fatpersonhate. It is the new alt.

They are holding frame and promising that every sub that gets deleted, two new will be spawned in its place. They refuse to back down. Some worthy subreddit drama IMO.

[–]docbloodmoney 3 points4 points  (1 child)

already banned again, after filling the entire frontpage of r/all

[–]bytesunfish 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's interesting seeing as the only thing they had time to do was make posts within their own subreddit.... I thought they weren't banning ideas /s

[–]sanglupus 18 points19 points  (5 children)

I wish I had known about FPH years ago. I would have loved to have been a subscriber.

[–]I3lizzard 15 points16 points  (0 children)

it was fun while it lasted

[–]link5057 1 point2 points  (0 children)

FPH2 and fatpersonhate are up

[–]Money_Bags97 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was subbed until I got banned for "fat sympathy" for making a joke. Don't get me wrong the sub was hilarious at times but the people there acted like children.

[–]boogalooshrimp1103 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm getting the same feeling I had when game of thrones king jofferey had all of Robert baratheons bastard children killed so no one could usurp his throne.

[–]Redpillc0re 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Reddit has zero authority by itself, it's all about their users, reddit does not create any content. What a stupid stupid move. People here are herds, but they also move as herds. When they start leaving, they 'll ALL leave.

I m not going to miss reddit, its too much of an echo chamber. I hope all the idiots stay here, and i do hope they ban TRP: i've always said TRP does not belong here and should have its own presence.

[–]Percy_The_Red 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you feel the love tonight?

It's a shame we don't have a window to an alternative universe where we could see the popularity of TRP had the foam-mouthed mangina posse not drawn attention to it and simply ignored it. It would be an interesting experiment.

It's a shame their logic and critical faculties are so overcome with emotion that they forget that when they shine the spotlight on something it draws more attention to it, and that if this attention captures people's imagination they'll wish they's just ignored it.

It's a shame that most of the redditors who join them are probably convinced and pride themselves on being logical, reasonable and "for the free market of ideas".

It's a shame they'll drive away those that, while not adherents to TRP, do respect free speech, and how this will fracture their own team: those that must censor the thing they hate under the guise of Orwellian doublespeak and those that hate TRP and all it stands for but believe free speech is more important.

It's a shame.

[–]jbaum303 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This subreddit has changed my life for the better, and I want to thank you all for being apart of it, if in case we are gone in the near future.

[–]1CowardlyPetrov 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I regret that I never knew about fat people hate.

[–]2johnnight 18 points19 points  (2 children)

How about moving TRP into private sub mode?

[–]rectifryer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

THIS^ It's big enough. It doesn't need the same exposure it used to.

[–]1laserdicks 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just because I've gotten the benefit of TRP doesn't mean we should assume nobody in future should miss out - it's still growing

[–]CropDuster33 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I really hope this is exclusivly for the hate subs like fatpeoplehate, ect. If they ban TRP im fucking done. TRP changed my life and is one of the only reasons I come to reddit... No, its not because i enjoy seeing pictures of your dog, or your selfie, or the other vapid shit that constantly makes it to the front page. I come because reddit is interesting and lately people have been treating this place like their facebook page smh.

[–]slai47 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The Blue pill has a post about mounting a organized push to close down red pill. FFS. Its been good man. Lets find a meet up point after these blows over

[–]bama79rolltide 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People would rather live comfortable lies than harsh truth.

[–]Hates_Bullshit 9 points10 points  (6 children)

So, does anyone know if they had a fallback like we do? I can't be the only one here who also liked that sub.

[–]thebalrog_ofmorgoth 7 points8 points