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MetaGuy exposes a cabal of reddit SJWs and their ties to the admins of reddit and creates a watchdog sub. Then the shit hits the fan. (self.TheRedPill)

submitted by Endorsed Contributorvandaalen

Guy exposed a cabal of users taking over reddit yesterday, spawned a watchdog subreddit of 2500 subscribers overnight, was then banned by reddit's admins, all the subreddit's mods then banned, admins won't say why, and now they're handing the subreddit to the corrupt cabal of users who were exposed.

Even though this has been posted to /r/conspiracy I recommend you give it a good and detailed read.

I don't want to put gasoline in the paranoid fire, that's been burning here the last days, but this must be the most ridiculous story I've read since gamer-gate.

Never underestimate the power and will of the radical SJW army.


[–]Backfist 816 points817 points  (40 children)

SJW's are waging open warfare on social media and I'm just over here trying to get my dick sucked.

[–]hermit087 147 points148 points  (26 children)

This raises a good point, many people on the internet want to "just talk about learning to get laid" or "just talk about video games" and don't really care about political shit, yet we keep being pulled into political shit because of SJW's trying to ruin everything.

Many people in this sub probably hate having these kinds of threads and just want to talk about game, but if you want places like trp to continue existing, then you are stuck fighting the political war with the rest of us.

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Its not that they want to ruin everything- that's what they joke about when they reject criticism- but rather that they demand that their ideas get injected into everything. Suddenly you couldn't just be an atheist, you had to be, "Atheist Plus" and suddenly gamers are "dead" and you cannot claim to have an identity influenced by you having played video games, you are only a player.

[–]umichdan 36 points37 points  (20 children)

Exactly. The only reason I give a shit is because their influence is not limited to the internet, if it was I wouldn't care. But, they've largely infiltrated American corporate culture and you cannot state any opinion in the office that runs contrary to SJW values without getting reprimanded for being "sexist" or outright losing your job.

If it didn't directly affect my actions in the real world I wouldn't care what these SJW were doing.

[–]Luckyluke23 16 points17 points  (16 children)

dude if you have a job in an office.

sit down shut up and do your job.

that is the most effective way I have found to be in corporate ANYTHING.

i don't really step out of line. i just most talk about what i see in the news in the lunch room. and by "news" i mean that bushfire thats been buring for a week and how terrable it is.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

You ever get that stapler back?

[–]ThePragmatist42 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. If you want to possibly keep your job then sitting down and shutting up is the way to go. If you want to get ahead you need to present solutions to problems your company is having. And you can't do that by being a fly on the wall that never speaks up.

[–]Luckyluke23 5 points6 points  (2 children)

it's a little of both man...

i was just saying " don't say some dumb shit that will get you fired"

[–]ThePragmatist42 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, true enough. It could probably be summed up with "Don't disrespect anyone at work." which hopefully includes dumb things. I understand what you're saying though.

[–]when_in_rome_wwjd 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Sounds fucking horrible, I would rather put a bullet through my brain.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

You'll get fired for bringing a gun into the office.

[–]the_number_2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And the mess you left on the floor with your brains? The "office manager" IS NOT YOUR MOTHER, clean up your own mess! She may even have to print out a sign and tape it up near the microwave in the break room if people keep leaving brains strewn about.

[–]Luckyluke23 0 points1 point  (2 children)

i guess some WANT to work in an office some don't

[–]xanthine_junkie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

exactly, its a means to an end..

do your time, have a few laughs, make a few reports, get paid and spend the weekend with friends doing shit that is fun

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah pretty much plus get a good reference too... that can make or break your next job

[–]Dick-Tracy 3 points3 points [recovered]

Yes, be a good little conformist robot slave for your entire life, no downsides to that

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think most pople are missing my point when i said this...

some guy nearly got fired the other day for saying some dumb shit while on lunch break to the boss. ( it wasn't directed at her)

thats all i was saying.

[–]jjakers88 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm sure you'll go far in life with that attitude...

[–]1User-31f64a4e 10 points11 points  (1 child)

He will.

  • Law 38: Think as you Like, but Behave Like Others
  • Law 4: Always Say Less than Necessary
  • Law 19: Do Not Offend the Wrong Person
  • Law 43: Work on the Heart and Mind of Others

The purpose of work is not to be social, or to validate you opinions about religion/politics/gender/whatever, or to develop friendships. The purpose of work is income. Focus.

[–]jjakers88 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Show me a c level executive who sat around like a pansy. It's a game and you gotta play it to win it.

[–]xtrancea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry I'm new here, what does SJW stand for?

[–]BannedBandit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you're talking politics, especially gender-politics at work, then you're an idiot and you have a lot to learn.

Play your cards to your chest.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 20 points21 points  (1 child)

many people on the internet want to "just talk about learning to get laid" or "just talk about video games" and don't really care about political shit, yet we keep being pulled into political shit because of SJW's trying to ruin everything.

That is the specific, acknowledged agenda of the modern far left. They wish to politicize people's personal lives. To make everything a political issue, and subject every person's every action to scrutiny to make sure it adheres to the proper orthodox values.

They are quite open about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political

An opening of "private" or "social" matters to political analysis and discussion.

And there it is.

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

this is the problem i face everyday. all i want to do is better myself, but then i see this people try and bring us ( as a community) down and it starts to get me mad.

just leave us the fuck alone, we just want to co-egist with you. we don't care about you why must you attack us from all angles.

[–]feelinglazy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah, lots of people here are not that attached to TRP. It wont be up forever so take whatever you can froms this sub before it's gone

[–]maximun_vader 243 points244 points  (1 child)

I am a level 3 transnigger dicksucked-kin, and the fact that some woman won't suck me is triggering

[–]Thzae 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Don't focus on the girl, focus on hitting level 4

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You could probably say the same thing about the betamaxes in the SJW ranks pushing the feminist agenda hoping for a courtesy handjob

[–]gonjinetik 72 points73 points  (0 children)

The story of many of our lives hahaha

[–]occupythekitchen 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Probably the Cia and Internet without anonymity and offense is exactly what the world governments want. 4 Chan to reddit this will only expand

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[–]occupythekitchen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes they can be against it but still use it as a mean to get the changes they want. That's how they used al-qaeda and now are using ISIS and after the NSA scandal are using SJWs as another form to get those changes.

[–]anttyk47 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you're trying you're selling yourself short

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just left Facebook.

I've been trying to back away from social media. It seems like the place where women and SJWs dominate.

Hopefully, with the extra free time (and more sane mental behaviour) that not being on Facebook provides, I can improve my life some more.

[–][deleted] 268 points269 points  (17 children)

Never forget: Echo Chambers pop up everywhere. Propaganda is everywhere.

You must learn to take in information and learn to find its source. Everyone is trying to sell you and convince you, even this subreddit.

You must choose who you will follow or lead.

[–]orangebeans2 38 points39 points  (1 child)

One thing to remember: Positive Feedback Loops are all over the place.

Educate yourself on how to filter the input around you. All peoples are trying to sway you to their own means, even here.

You have to decide who you will scamper after or take charge of.

[–]jakenichols2 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I suggest everyone read this book called "Propganda: The Formation Of Men's Attitudes" by sociologist Jacques Ellul. Mind blower on every page. Here's the PDF: http://monoskop.org/images/4/44/Ellul_Jacques_Propaganda_The_Formation_of_Mens_Attitudes.pdf

The chapters on the Psychological Effects of Propaganda are amazing.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks, been wanting to read a bit more about propaganda.

[–]jmottram08 12 points13 points  (12 children)

You must choose who you will follow or lead.

Meh.

This is reddit. I am not following or leading anyone on here. I come here for amusement.

Do i know if the story is true or not? No. But it is entertaining to read about, and i'll file it away in the back of my head that there have been allegations that reddit is more corrupt than it seems.

[–]CaptainIncredible 25 points26 points  (11 children)

I find reddit to be more than simply entertainment. There is a certain educational value to it as well. As an example, /r/TheRedPill has been very enlightening.

Of course, everyone should take everything they read with a grain of salt.

[–]jmottram08 45 points46 points  (10 children)

I guess there is a distinction to be made between reading things and thinking about them (/r/TheRedPill), and "following" something.

I read this subreddit, but don't "follow" all of its ideals.

I mean, I am a Orthodox Christian, I don't sleep around or hit up bars for "plates". I do find the discussions about society and gender roles interesting, and I think about them in the context of my world.

On that note, I think few people here "follow" TRP... as in they will accept anything that the community does as correct and/or right. If there is one thing that I have seen in this community, its that it isn't a cult. I would dare to say that the majority of the readers here don't really believe hardcore TRP dogma... they just think that there is some truth in what is said here, and reading/thinking about it is useful for them.

Which I think is true for most of Reddit. The only places that "You must choose who you will follow or lead" really applies is some of the more "culty" subreddits... /r/srs and such. But all in all, they are a minority of Reddit. Most of the experiences on reddit are casual, and you don't need to "lead or be led".

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The thing to note is that TRP differs from a lot of subs in that the body of knowledge contained herein is exactly that. Knowledge. For example, there are TRP'ers that are going to get married. TRP simply acknowledges that it's a highly risky proposition, but it's on the individual to decide for themselves if that's still worth it to them.

Knowledge is always amoral.

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (6 children)

great post. though i wanna know who the fuck would subscribe to /r/srs anyway?

just looks like a junk waste of time!

[–]WhitePhillip 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually sub to srs as a way of finding great posts. Odds are if they hate it, I'll love it.

[–]jjakers88 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Just took a look at it and I'm confused. What's srs?

[–]Luckyluke23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

just another avenue to push the feminist agenda

[–]Wordshark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

/r/shitredditsays, a radical feminist subreddit about how awful reddit is.

[–]jjakers88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Interesting I didn't know TRP was such a big hit with fundies. Anything else you like about it besides validating the bibles view of women, in today's modern world? I'd say 99% of true RPs think religion is complete BS. It's no different than feminism or SJWism.

[–]jmottram08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say its a "big hit" on any level. Most people don't know about it.

The point is that I am Orthodox... and that is very different than most "fundamental" christians.

I guess what is interesting its that TRP admits that society has changed women for the worse... and I agree with that. It admits what is a more natural structure in a relationship. It admits that sleeping around is bad (at least for women). It also admits that men and women are different.

I guess its kinda interesting to me in that it ends up arguing for morality (at least for women) from a base that is seemingly immoral.

Or, let me put it this way... the basis of TRP is the idea that women have reneged on their part of the marriage "deal", so why should men do their part?

And the interesting part of that is that TRP understands what the ideal relation between men and women is, they just also think that society has by and large destroyed it. And I agree on both parts. And I think that most of the "old school" religions would agree.

They would not, of course, agree that the solution is to join the women in immorality... but that is a separate issue.

I guess the sad thing is that there are women out there "like that", that still adhere to the older societal models of behavior (which... surprise! were religion based) even in today's society, but most of them are religious.

[–]Nantafiria 247 points248 points  (6 children)

Jesus christ.. It's like the irony of it all truly is lost on them entirely. People complain about a bunch of people damn near running reddit with their social power, and when they start their own little subreddit to complain about it, said people.. Prove them right exactly by going and getting them banned ASAP.

Genius.

[–]BoiledEelsnMash 28 points29 points  (4 children)

lol! Well, those in the control booth are under the illusion that they have a lot of power over a whole bunch of sheep. Until they get doxed, and have the FBI knocking at their doors asking about their credit card donations to some hajji terrorist training camp, etc, etc.

The problem with that illusion of control is how easy people in the control booth are replaced, and how quickly they can be dumped down the "memory hole".

An example from the early history of the net is a white power website named after a weather phenomenon. Also after the founder , but you'll not find his name on wikipedia. He was "deleted" and replaced with some other putz. That was after somewhat of a bit of nasty business where they found something illegal on his PC. (big hint, it was planted there, by his "friends")

However, because the guy was a sociopath, and nutter in general, nobody made a peep, he went off to some prison hole in the ground , and everyone concerned bought into the new "official" history.

In general, I doubt the general public would have cared if they were paying attention, they weren't, those running the organization figured they could spare the rabid foam at the mouth psychos that would be picked off by the FBI every so often, and in return they got to maintain their little knitting circle, wacky traditions, and sort of cult/religion thing going on.

Nothing new, the government of India does the same thing with Canadian Sikhs, because they fear extremism won't stay in Canada, and their money, and extremist cranks, will flow back to India if they did not intervene.

Wag the dog bullshit, multiply it by a million, and that's the world you have today. Skilled bullshit artists playing games, and working to obfuscate all the nasty business going on in the world. Only problem is, those who work for the various governments, don't always stay working for their government. Sometimes they run their own game, and not to just "spin plates", but to fuck shit up in general. ;)

Bill Bupert, Boston T Party, Mama Liberty, Chris Cantwell, those guys were outed like, 8-14 years ago, nobody cares, their lines of bullshit sounded better than what was out there. They just focused the anarchy of discontent into a coherent message.

Which is the problem, you drop agents into a pile of chaos to control it, they may "organize" it into something that's a serious problem. lol!

[–]SMEGMA_CHEESE 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Why do you separate the lines in your post like that?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

One would assume it's to avoid wall of text, or do you mean the liberal use of commas?

[–]slavetothought 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the formatting is just difficult for us using smartphones.

[–]mayonesa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same way Reddit openly tolerates liberal downvote brigades.

[–][deleted] 201 points202 points  (32 children)

Reddit as a whole is a fucking joke. All the SJW's and tumblerrettes need to fucking go outside and experience life and stop being fucking hermits, with a bunch of inside jokes with anonymous people they will never meet in their life. Why should you ever get butthurt over something someone said anonymously that you don't know? Who gives a flying fuck. They're just embarrassing themselves.

[–][deleted] 57 points58 points  (9 children)

Because that's all they do, is come home and go on tumblr 24/7.

[–]TheBoldakSaints 28 points29 points  (7 children)

*Implies they are capable of leaving the house.

[–]Cryocasm 9 points10 points  (6 children)

*Implies they live alone and need to get all the food that makes them fat

[–]Z3ROWOLF1 12 points13 points  (5 children)

*Implies they have the power to make it to the kitchen

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (4 children)

*Implies they know how to cook heat food

[–]Z3ROWOLF1 11 points12 points  (3 children)

*implies they know anything other than Starbucks and McDonalds exist

[–]self_made_guy 4 points5 points  (2 children)

*implies they KNOW things other than feminist bullshit.

[–]JovianTrainWreck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

*Implies that feminism counts as knowledge

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 0 points1 point  (0 children)

... Yeah? I've never seen one outside of a college campus or here.

[–]trplurker 23 points23 points [recovered]

Reddit as a whole is a fucking joke.

Which is why this is the only sub and the only account I go on. I don't visit anywhere else cause reddit is full of a bunch of pussies.

[–]Dravous 26 points27 points  (3 children)

well I personal like all the cat pics.

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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same, aside from a few other ones. Originally I was on anything and everything, but as I became more familiar and aware I slowly stopped. RES helped a lot with blocking.

[–]JovianTrainWreck 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Motherfucking ditto. This sub is the only reason I ever even registered to reddit.

As a side effect though, I'm pretty sure I've developed a bias against fat chicks due to all this SJW Tumblerina Feminism bullshit. I used to have passive respect for my friends' girlfriends/wives because hey man, if you like 'em big, that's your business. As time went by though, I notice that 2/3 of them are exactly that - part of the tumbler army of SJWs. I'm just thankful as fuck that the men/husbands don't buy into that shit.

One of the hardest things about TRP is having to loosen ties to your BP friends and finding more RP-minded people to associate with.

[–]hero707 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn. I fell on this sub, like many others, through mindless bull shitting on askreddit. I initially got on reddit because of voyboy from league of legends. Between ques he would browse reddit. Funny thing is, I was working out almost every day before league. My roommate showed me it and since we weren't making any chemistry I decided to give it a go. The thing was I had to fucking play a fucking lot just to get to lvl 30 and unlock one fucking champion. I didn't quit. And I was addicted, and I'm glad that part of my life is at ease. I also give major props to Riot for making a game that had that much power over me. Now I'm all about my body, spirit, and mind. Thanks to this sub and a really good friend of mine. I don't post much, but I read often. I'll leave a quote from pyscho cybernetics that credits philosopher Elbert Hubbard whom said, "The greatest mistake a man can make is to be afraid of making one."

[–]Faggot_Mother_Fucker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"So what'd you do on the weekend?"

"Begged my wife for sex"

"sigh..." smh

[–]Nothing_Gazes_Back 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My feed is just TRP, FPH, and fitness/leangains.

[–]gpyh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There are many subreddits on specific subjects that are worth the shot, for example /r/Fitness, /r/DiY, /r/Earthporn, /r/hardware...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is true. Just look at even the controversial subreddits like r/mensrights. Their stickied post is to remove misandry and misogyny from Okcupid.

I think the humor on this site is very feminized. Tons of puns, corny, PC, lame. It's terrible.

[–]I_HaveAHat 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Thats what I dont get. Why do they do this? Whats their endgame, and for what purpose?

[–]through_a_ways 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Whats their endgame, and for what purpose?

You don't necessarily have to have a coherent endgame in order to be doing stuff like this. Simply advocating for what you perceive to be in your interest is an endgame in itself.

Also, protip: The best way to discredit X is to pretend to be an X, and act like a stuckup, stupid, racist/homophobic/hypocritical dumbass.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Your protip happens on this subreddit and on conspiracy to try to scare people away from the real message. I got called elliot rodger last night for saying some butthurt psycho wasn't an example of red pill

[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your protip happens on this subreddit and on conspiracy to try to scare people away from the real message.

I know. I meant that it should happen in other places ;)

[–]RachelMaddowsBalls 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Why should you ever get butthurt over something someone said anonymously that you don't know? Who gives a flying fuck.

Because they're leftists, who share deep ideological roots with totalitarianism.

Political correctness is rampant on college campuses and the workplace. I cannot even express remotely conservative viewpoints without fearing a potentially poor performance review or my job security—that's how leftists operate.

Everything is personal for them. What was the feminist chant from the 1960s? "The personal is political"?

In talking about a co-worker's maternity leave, I apparently offended one older mother by stating it's proven that having a parent—specifically a mother—staying home with the children has numerous benefits (cognitively, emotionally, etc.).

Apparently saying such a thing was "insensitive" for those who "don't have that choice." Again, a typical leftist argument—complete bullshit. Everyone has a choice, the irresponsible and shiftless just don't make it a priority and see children as accessories in their lives—to be shipped off to daycare or nannied by an immigrant.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was rhetorical, but I appreciate the input and agree.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (10 children)

"The de facto top mod of /r/Subredditdrama bragging about how he gets laid from modding his multiple subreddits as a male feminist. "

I'd rather jerk off then go anywhere near a radical feminist. Plenty of better women out there to bed without having to dip your willy in crazy.

it's pathetic that he feels it's something to be bragged about.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 25 points26 points  (8 children)

If you're going to nail a radical feminist (I dunno why, they're not generally any bit attractive or sane), use a fake name and a condom.

I do highly encourage DATING feminists, though. What you do is you talk with her, get her to reveal she's a feminist, then do one of the following options:

  1. The minute she says, "Well, I'm a feminist." Walk the fuck out with no response, no talking, nothing. Just walk out.

  2. Order some really expensive shit, and make sure she gets some alcohol. When she goes to use the bathroom, get your to-go box and walk out.

Guaranteed to be a good time.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

So you can reinforce their delusions? How long before either of those tactics drives the feminist to proclaim that "all men are dogs" and join the ranks of the deluded SJWs?

No. Get her to reveal she's a feminist, and then use every opportunity to emphasize just how "pro-equality" you are. Because deep down feminists know (whether subconsciously or not) that what they believe in is bullshit, you'll be in a position of power when she starts to wonder "why is chivalry dead?"

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Here's where you're committing a fallacy: You're assuming that these people will listen to reason.

You get the same effect with my method. She can't say, "All men are dogs" because you're not fucking her, you're sticking her with the bill.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's just it. It's because she will not resort to reason that your method will result in her proclaiming "all men are dogs". We know that women love to play the victim. Do you think there's any reason in that kind of behavior? Of course not.

What I advocate avoids the question of reason. With my method you're beating the feminist down with feminism itself. You're not giving her the chance to reason because you're showing her just how absurd her "reasoning" i.e. feminism, is. You don't have to stick her with the bill or walk out. All you have to do is be a "feminist". The rest will take care of itself.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

heh, another fun thing to do. Talk about how great feminism is because of the "liberated" women who put out, then leave, and how you don't have to worry about being a dad because she'll abort the kid, all while she can pay for dinner.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Fuck that, I enjoy sadisticly screwing with people, but most feminists are far too easy. It's low hanging fruit, like drawing dirty pics of muhammad to piss off muslims.

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What's more sadistic than to show someone that their entire belief system is a lie? If a woman is a feminist and you fuck with her using 'feminist logic' isn't that the embodiment of sadism? If that's your cup of tea I mean. Think about it. You don't need to be cruel or evil. You can be quietly efficient and still fuck with her head.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have, it's not a challenge. They still hamster what happened, they don't change their mind, and you achieved something as difficult as beating up Timmy from South Park.

[–]Anderfail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a friend who follows TRP who loves to fuck feminists because they are always down for shit and always allow themselves to be treated like dirt. He's made a lot of them sleep on the floor and got them to do degrading shit because he finds it hilarious. He's 6' and absolutely shredded at 190 lbs and is a successful trader at 32.

Inevitably these girls are always with the biggest betas while they are out (usually skinny hipster twinks) and he enjoys walking up, stealing the girls, and relishes the rage on the guys' faces. The girls always eat it up.

He's a pretty big dark triad type of guy, and just does not care at all about offending anyone.

Even still he absolutely hates how the city he lives in, Austin, is overrun with SJWs and can't wait to leave because he is just as conservative as me and despises liberal thought processes.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 137 points138 points  (59 children)

Animal Farm needs to be a mandatory book in school reading. Kill a Mockingbird is fine, Dickens is fine, but society would benefit from Animal Farm.

"Everybody is equal, some are more equal than others"

This is where liberal elitism and group think starts to poison freedom. Everybody has the right to disagree with opinion, as long as it's the correct opinion.

[–]pl231 21 points21 points [recovered]

I read animal farm in 6th grade. Fuck yeah

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I feel like it is one of those books where reading it in 12th grade would be more valuable. So many of the lessons and impacts are not really comprehended at such a young age. Most 6th grades have an understanding that what the pigs are doing with wrong, however, the complicated answer of why it is wrong is usually lost.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Little by little I go back to it and draw parallels with what's going on in modern media and politics. Atlas shrugged isn't nearly as strong pointing out modern flaws, but every politician today can be seen as the pigs where their utopian laws don't apply to them.

[–]Rathadin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I read it in 7th grade, but I recently re-read it, and having gained a few decades of life experience, its very sobering.

[–]jjakers88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read it again. It's scary how easy it is for this to happen in real life.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here (well, maybe perhaps it was in High School).

But that was back during the cold war, before school had apparently morphed into whatever it is now.

[–]1ThumpNuts 38 points39 points  (48 children)

If this were taught in schools today, we'd have a brighter tomorrow.

Now, Animal Farm, Brave New World, 1984, Farenheit 451, Atlas Shrugged etc... are banned due POLITICAL CORRECTNESS [aka: Leftist Thought Police]. They've been replaced with books about "My Two Mommies," "Gender Identity," "Rules for Radicals," and "The Communist Manifesto."

[–]PlanB_pedofile 38 points39 points  (6 children)

I've read the communist mannifesto and about halfway through you can see where the flaw in Marx's utopia. It's putting too much faith that the people in power will not abuse that power to further the class divide.

He pretty much bitched about how the rich and upper class rule the system and foolishly expects putting people in power is going to change that? It just creates a new rich and upper class. The ones elected!

Through free flowing democracy does equality come. Things like term limits, democratic voting, informed public, govt transparency, multiple media sources will this come about.

As for the class divide, it's refreshing the field to allow competition, subsidizing the new, rewarding initiative.

[–]Wog_Boy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It's putting too much faith that the people in power will not abuse that power to further the class divide.

Look what happened after the Communist Party took power in China.. The high ranking officials and their offspring/friends are all filthy fucking rich because of corruption, cronyism, nepotism etc..

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This was the key fallacy exposed by Das Capital. Marx went to his grave without finishing it as he intended. Both Marx and Hegel could not put a formula to paper which would ensure that those who wrested power during the "transition" period from Capitalism to Communism would eventually disband in order to allow the classless state reign.

Something I learned about in the early '80s, but now nearly all residue of that very important point vanished.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

meet the new boss ... same as the old boss ...

Won't Get Fooled Again summed it up pretty well. Plus it's The Who, so it sounds good ...

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you actually read the communist manifesto because it doesn't fricken sound like it. He never talks about putting people in power. He seems to assume communism will just be a decentralized form of government. He doesn't even explain what communism is because he assumes people already know what it is. The communist manifesto is extremely disappointing literature because it has so few details.

[–]Senior ContributorRedPope 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Funny, I read 1984 and F 451 during the Reagan/Thatcher era.

My impression was they were leftist books. At the time, jackboot thugs, doublespeak, government in your bedroom, morality police, subverting schools, censorship, and anti-intellectualism were the tactics of the right. Conservative authoritarians.

Isn't it funny how the left gained dominance and ended up using the same playbook?

Politics is like women. Stop listening to what they say and pay attention to what they do.

[–]1ThumpNuts 4 points5 points  (5 children)

The European model of "left" vs "right" is much different than the American political model. In the European model, Communism is on the Left and Tyranny/Fascism is on the right. European politics is all Marxist [leftist ideas like Socialism vs Communism], but the ruling class found it was necessary to use Fascist tactics to implement it.

America is the exception in the world. The American political model has Communism/Marxism on the left, and Liberty on the right. Liberty is an American ideal that operates outside of the rest of the world's political paradigm.

I propose a new model:

  • Top = Anarchy
  • Left = Communism/Marxism
  • Right = Liberty
  • Bottom = Tyranny

[–]1User-31f64a4e 3 points4 points  (4 children)

This is not surprising, in that Edward Bernays did his seminal work here in America. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#Propaganda)

America is the home of public relations, Hollywood, and even the new media. Rather than the crude coersion of e.g. Soviet Russia, our ruling class developed the means of sub rosa control of information.

The agenda of our elite is not feminism - they don't care one way or the other per se. Their agenda is getting all the money and power. The sixties threatened change, and so they set about breaking the working and middle classes into submission. They have been very successful at this, under both political parties. Regan broke the unions; Bush I and Clinton I did the free trade deals that sent jobs overseas and gave China most favored nation.

"But wait," you say, "what does your political rant have to do with feminism and reddit and sjws?! What does it have to do with left and right?"

Here in America, we got sold the idea that the authoritarian right is about Liberty. It's not; the Patriot Act was bipartisan.

Much like the "useful idiots" described by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE38dLxapVo, SJWs are simply expanding the reach of state control; later it will be used by the plutonomy to control the rest of us. Meanwhile on the right, libertarian efforts to deregulate the plutonomy, extending it's power. Plutonomy? http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2011/12/citigroup-plutonomy-memos-two-bombshell.html

Think about it - why would rich people have funded feminism for the past century? Idealism? Really? No, there has to be something more strategic and selfish at work. They fund it for the same reason they fund the Tea Party - to reign in the masses and free the .01%

[–]1ThumpNuts -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

Here in America, we got sold the idea that the authoritarian right is about Liberty...

No. The "Authoritarian Right" is exactly the same as the "Authoritarian Left." All they care about is POWER. More power to an ever expanding Centralized Government. They even support the same programs and institutions: The Patriot Act and NSA Spying, Obamacare, Creating a Slave class and driving down wages through Amnesty, High Taxes only affordable to Large Corporations but KILL "Middle Class" Small Businesses, Regulations only affordable to Large Corporations but KILL "Middle Class" Small Businesses, etc...

The Elites control BOTH parties.

Democrats = Freefall off the cliff

Republicans = Hang Glide off the cliff

The Tea Party is about TWO thing. Taxes and smaller Government. [Taxed Enough Already]. Don't lump the Tea Party in with the Republican Elites.

Do your homework.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree that most Tea Party rank and file want less taxes and smaller government.

I believe they are being used by the money behind the Tea Party, who want less corporate taxes and no regulation.

[–]brotherjustincrowe -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Evangelicals and big-business (Walmart, Monsanto, Lockheed etc.) that benefit from government subsidies, no-bid contracts, price floors and tax breaks would count as "Authoritarian Right" though the concepts seem more in line with liberal statism, they're antithetical towards the populist "social justice" ethos on the left.

Individualism and collectivism make for much less ambiguous terms, though rarely used in a political context.

[–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree... somewhat... I call them Corporatists.

They are both left and right. No one would call George Soros a rightwing authoritarian, right?

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini

Crony Capitalism -- With the corporate welfare going on today, Obamacare waivers, tax loopholes, Fed printing money for wallstreet, lobbyists writing laws [e.g. Obamacare], corporate CEO's being appointed to Government positions, etc...

“Socialism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Thumpnuts

[–]oaddsandk 4 points4 points [recovered]

I had to read Brave New World and Farenheit 451 for public school. I wrote a report on Animal Farm too as an elective book.

They most certainly are NOT banned.

[–]1ThumpNuts 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I should say remove from curriculum. Banned was a poor choice of word... although

[–]get_real_quick 26 points27 points  (17 children)

The Communist Manifesto is an important book for the history of Western political thought, regardless of its merits. George Orwell was a socialist par excellence, and Animal Farm and 1984 both rail against totalitarianism, which is distinct from Marxism or socialist thought. Atlas Shrugged is so shittily thought out that even a thirteen year old can pick it apart, and Brave New World is a critique of the totalitarian undercurrent in Fordism (read: advanced industrial capitalism). I have not encountered a single school district that wasn't located in the deep South (i.e. about as far from "leftist" as you can get) that has tried to ban all or any of these books, so respectfully, while I agree with the general thrust of your post, it reads like the musings of a gun-toting moron from backwoods Alabama. Can we at least try to be coherent when declaring what is in large measure an accusation of conspiracy?

FWIW, both Animal Farm and 1984 were required reading in my public high school, in one of the most liberal states in the country. The notion that this has anything to do with "Leftism" is fucking laughable. But downvote away without a response--does anyone hear an echo in here?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (3 children)

At my local High School, a lot were 'replaced'.

1984, Animal Farm, and Brave New World were all removed from the grade 9 - 12 curriculums. All on the same year.

[–]Wordshark 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Brave New World? Been decades since I read that, but I thought there was too much explicit sex for public school sensibilities.

[–]1ThumpNuts 6 points7 points  (6 children)

You are factually incorrect.

Animal Farm is a direct criticism of the Russian Revolution of 1917, not necessarily the revolution itself but the manner in which it was co-opted by greed, arrogance, and corruption... the absolute corruption of absolute power.

1984 is both a takedown of fascism and a warning to maintain vigilance to prevent such totalitarianism. Communism is totalitarian.

The former is an allegorical tale of the collapse of Soviet Socialism at the hand of Stalin’s tyranny. The latter pulls the allegory into the real world by imagining the world after years of tyranny when the oppressed have been under the heel so long they have accepted it as a way of life.

Both were banned in the U.S.S.R. for being anti-Stalin.

To say that Stalin or the totalitarian rule of Communism has nothing to do with leftism "is fucking laughable."

[–]get_real_quick 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I didn't suggest that any of these books was an endorsement of socialism. I suggested that they were critiques of totalitarianism. While communism is an authoritarian application of socialist ideology, I'm merely pointing out that it is not leftists, at least in the US, who are banning these books. Civil Rights Movement was unquestionably a leftist movement. Free Speech Movement, unquestionably a leftist movement.

[–]1ThumpNuts -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Civil Rights Movement was unquestionably a leftist movement. Free Speech Movement, unquestionably a leftist movement.

You have GOT to be shitting me?

How old are you?

Republican Party Was Created By Abolitionists

Democrats create the KKK in response

Republicans passed Civil Rights

But the Democrats and Republicans switched parties... right?

[–]trplurker 1 points1 points [recovered]

Many people confuse liberalism and progressivism as the same ideology, they aren't. The marxists took over the liberal political faction in most western nations by utilizing the liberal concept of equality under the law as a shoe horn to showcase communism / socialism as the answer. Liberalism itself is just about maximum personal freedom and the responsibility that comes with it. True liberalism has mostly vanished in the west with only minority parties supporting it. Even the libertarian party who attempted to revive liberalism got taken over by religious zealots.

[–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is a term for what you are talking about: Classical Liberalism.

The term "liberal" has been co-opted and corrupted by the leftists. That is main tactic [or pillar] of theirs -- to control the language [political correctness, redefining words, creating derogatory meanings, etc...]

[–]get_real_quick -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I'm actually really happy that you decided to make this argument and cite the sources (if they could be called that) for your beliefs, because it's now clear to me that not only are you incapable of doing anything but addressing those points which ostensibly serve your agenda, but also (and more importantly) that this conversation is not going to go anywhere. Cheers.

[–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are entitled to your own opinions, but facts are stubborn things.

And by "opinions", I means lies...

...and by "facts", I mean truths.

[–]slavetothought 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Animal farm was required reading in my small town shitty school in Georgia. This was 10 years ago.

[–]jjakers88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mehh. Seems to be an anarchist more than anything.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wait, they don't make kids read Brave New World and 1984 anymore? You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Can't be arming kids with the wrong kind of knowledge, now can we? Thought policing was literally the reason I abandoned self-defining as a liberal years ago.

[–]1ThumpNuts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clue #1 as to why these books are being removed from school curriculums.

[–]nogodsorkings1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Brave New World, 1984, Farenheit 451, Atlas Shrugged etc ... are banned due to POLITICAL CORRECTNESS

I doubt this is common. My public school had us read and discuss all of those books. They're not explicitly right wing; We only think of them that way among our circles of talk because of the general dominance of leftist thought among the elite.

Keep in mind that in the mindspace of the prototypical leftist, right-wing values have a stranglehold on society and the progressive movement is the underdog. In the social justice mindset, the standards to which one is held in discourse and political organizing depend on the context of privilege. The emerging left doesn't see anything wrong with shaming people out of their jobs for not supporting gay marriage, because to hold those opinions, even anonymously, is to be an associate of the oppressor class. They don't see their pressure to homogenize the conversation in communities they influence as analogous to Orwellian goodthink, because they're the good guys, fighting the bigger bully, and any apparent abuses along the way are, to use an analogy, the necessary atrocities of a just war.

Why would the left want to ban those books? As long as the "establishment" is perceived as right wing in the public mindspace, anti-establishment sentiments fueled by such literature lend themselves to at least some endorsement of left-leaning positions.

It's the same reason that the leaders of revolutionary governments keep alive the narrative that the revolution is still being opposed, by some as yet unseen nefarious actor. It's the same reason Apple encouraged the "think different" mindset long after they had become the default brand of the elite.

PS: Few schools assign Atlas Shrugged, but let's face it - it's just not a great work of literature.

[–]sithman25 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Atlas Shrugged would be far more valuable to read in schools if it had an abridged version, or excerpts in context. Rand really didn't understand quality over quantity, but damn were there some good moments in that book.

Honestly, Anthem would have been a far better pick for the younger crowd.

[–]Ibex3D 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I hated Brave New World. Had to read it in 11th grade(4 1/2 years ago). The writing style and story just irked the fuck out of me. But god damn did that man know what he was talking about. It's scary how close we are to that book. Fahrenheit 451 I loved though.

[–]Wordshark 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Maybe you can help me with this--been decades since I read it, but I thought there was too much explicit sex in Brave New World for American public schools. Am I remembering incorrectly?

[–]Ibex3D 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theres a lot of sex but it's not explicit. Nothing 11th graders should have a problem reading.

[–]jjakers88 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Are they really banned now? We read Orwell in middle school about 20 yrs ago?

[–]1ThumpNuts -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not "banned," but I know 1984 was removed from some school's curriculum for one reason or another [they never admit it was deemed too political.] Google it.

[–]MakutaProto 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where are Brave New World, 1984, and Animal Farm banned? Animal Farm was taught in my middle school and 1984/Brave New World are taught in 11th and 12th grade.

[–]1ThumpNuts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not making a blanket statement about every curriculum in the entire United States. I'm saying it is being done in some places.

Also, I was taught Brave New World, 1984, and Animal Farm in the liberal NY school system... that's called an "anecdote." But, so what? That's not my point.

Also, anecdotally, my nieces and nephews in the liberal NJ school system are reading NONE of those books. My cousins children in the liberal LA California school system are reading NONE of those books. My niece and nephew in the liberal NY school district that I grew up in would not have ANY of those books on their high school reading list as of today [though that could change once they get to high school].

Also... ever hear of Google?

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[–]unsuckable9335 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

these are unsubstantiated claims. you sound like Rush Limbaugh or something.

[–]asimplescribe -5 points-4 points  (1 child)

The people trying to ban books are Christian soccer moms from middle America and The South, and they tend to only get that done in their district.

[–]1ThumpNuts -1 points0 points  (0 children)

One example:

Catcher in the Rye, a book considered one of the top 100 novels written in the 20th century, is to be banned. Now, here’s the twist: the ban this time is from left-wing groups.

Books such as JD Salinger’s Catcher in the Rye and Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird will be replaced by “informational texts” approved by the Common Core State Standards. Suggested non-fiction texts include Recommended Levels of Insulation by the the US Environmental Protection Agency, and the Invasive Plant Inventory, by California’s Invasive Plant Council. The new educational standards have the backing of the influential National Governors’ Association and the Council of Chief State School Officers, and are being part-funded by a grant from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

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I think Bill Gates’ foundation and all the other liberals going along with this think this will make better students, and help them get a job. This is just misguided. Really, liberals? Right, the problem with our economy is that graduates know too much about Caulfield and too little about California’s Invasive Plant Council. And nothing will help high school dropout rates like luring a kid to class with a 500-page manual from the Dept of Health and Human Services.

Also, this is the problem with a centralized government leading education. With one stroke of a pen, 46 of 50 states are having their schools’ teaching plans altered. What about leaving these choices to the local level? The problem with a federal Department of Education — ok, one out of 4,296 problems with a federal Dept of Education — is the loss of local control. And I thought liberals were all about helping teachers.

[–]tyson2444 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's part of 10th grade curriculum in my school district.

[–]Kardlonoc 27 points28 points  (3 children)

As much hate as the red pill gets, its existence is proof that SJW/ SRS cancer has not completely infiltrated Reddit.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's our little man cave; the rest of the house is under her control.

[–]YaBoiTibzz 25 points26 points  (6 children)

Very interesting stuff. I have seen this happen on small websites and forums with more insular communities and only a slow trickle of new members--eventually, one way or another, an admin will end up modding some of his friends. Later, they mod some more people they are friends with, meanwhile the members of the circle who have been around the longest are all becoming admins while the site's original admins are becoming less and less active or retiring their positions completely.

Eventually all the mods and admins of the forum end up as Internet besties who hang out in chat rooms together every day and regularly PM each other, anyone they don't like gets banned or restricted while those who are part of their "in" crowd can do or say pretty much whatever they like no matter how absurd or self-contradicting. These people tend to be extreme Internet addicts, as in they have few if any real life friends and almost all of their spare time is spent in front of their screens browsing these forums or w/e it might be. The part about belonging to a "cool kids" crowd is spot on.

Never thought it could happen with a site as huge as reddit. Very interesting stuff.

[–]SgtBrutalisk 35 points36 points  (5 children)

I noticed that Cracked.com had a good beginning, in fact they bragged about being nothing other than a "dick joke website". Now, you can't find a dick joke with a microscope on Cracked. In fact, when GamerGate appeared, Cracked had Zoe Quinn as a guest writer, poisoning the well with her agenda.

[–]TunkaTun 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I'm so bummed about cracked, I used to read it every day. Now it just sucks and isn't funny.

[–]trpalternate 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"6 More Ways that Cracked has Gone to Shit."

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I gave writing for them a try, and noticed that fellow writers experienced a complete shut-down if gender was brought up. One guy proposed "6 Terrifying Legendary Women" and wrote about some cool, powerful, mythical females. The mods didn't even consider it, stating that it was sexist to write about female monsters.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

but wouldn't it be more sexist to only write about male monsters? the hamster works in mysterious ways...

[–]unsuckable9335 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ew, that site is just clickbait now. politically correct, watered-down, meaningless buzzfeed-esque drivel.

college humor is still good though.

[–]COGofSOUTHbend 23 points23 points [recovered]

The fat blooper cunts have a thread already plotting over there about this same fuckin shit

[–]we_kill_creativity 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is that on shitredditsays? I'd actually be interested in briefly checking it out.

[–]R4F1 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Funny thing you mention r/conspiracy, because I remember a year ago, there was one bad Mod (a mole, basically) who un-modded all the others mods, and the sub was basically sent into chaos for like 2 weeks. Fortunately, the reddit Admins restored the moderator rights to the users effected. Ironically, this time its the Admins who are doing the exact thing (as per OP). Both these serve as an example for TRP to be very careful about things going forward.

[–]C00l_Guy 50 points51 points  (16 children)

These people are in TRP right now manipulating opinion....

[–]MHOOD01 15 points16 points  (9 children)

I think I'm going to agree on that. There was some thread a while back about some dude who was at work and was offered cake by some lady, and I believe OP had turned it down because he was eating clean and working on being fit. The whole point of his post is he thought he was being shit tested, because some other women had also encouraged him to take some, but still refused.

I made a comment saying, "I'm not going to do something if I don't feel like it, or to make someone happy." Some dude replied back with "It's a basic social construct. Following basic social constructs isn't about breaking frame of making a stand." Did you forget what sub you are in?

Not sure if the guy just lurked the sub, but I don't think he follows this sub and just made a comment or two to feel good about adding Internet points to his stack.

[–]nourathrowway 11 points12 points  (6 children)

That's a huge stretch. That guy was like "yeah, take a piece, poke at it, toss it. Dont just be a dick to your coworkers and call them whales to their face". It's ok to reject their rituals, but expect repurcussions. Especially if you do it harshly. That poster was upvoted for good reason, not some lunatic conspiracy.

Same thing with avoiding church in a small town. The hell if I'm going to church, but am I going to reject my neighbor's invite with "I'm an atheist and you're a sheeple"?

[–]MHOOD01 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Repercussions? It's cake. If YOU have a problem with people turning down an offer of cake then it's you who has a problem, or say, "I don't like cake, but thank you." Or a basic reddit answer "is this gluten free?". Of course you don't do it harshly, but if that person decides to get pissy at you saying no then fuck you and stay fat your entire life, you fat bitch.

Comparing cake and church is not even close to even make a similarity.

If people turn down my offer then I'm not going to think twice about it and life goes on.

[–]through_a_ways -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Or a basic reddit answer "is this gluten free?"

I'm pretty sure the reddit consensus is that gluten-free is a meaningless trend.

If something isn't supported by the "scientific" hivemind, then reddit doesn't like it.

[–]magus678 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm curious what you mean by "scientific hivemind."

Science is objective by definition.

[–]through_a_ways 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean more the "popular" scientific hivemind that exists on reddit. Where an idea is accepted just because someone in an authority position (could even be as simple as someone with a lot of upvotes) said so, regardless of how faulty the reasoning is.

There is also the issue of political and financial interests in science, but that's different.

[–]1independentmale 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So, "Pretend to fit in to make others happy" is your motto?

If I don't want a piece of cake I'm not fucking taking it. I would never tell the others they are fat asses, just politely decline. If they infer something from this - "oh you think you're better than us? You think we're fat?" - that's their fucking problem.

Same with church. I'm not going. A polite "no thank you."

Assert yourself. Don't follow along to please others. That should be Red Pill 101.

[–]nourathrowway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Politely declining is fine. The OP referenced was a dick and pissed off his coworkers. Even that is fine, but it has consequences.

[–]Johnny10toes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I've noticed a lot of down voting for new threads that are legitimate questions and anti trp advice in asktrp.

[–]Anderfail 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Eh maybe. The problem with SJWs trying to influence a place like this is that it's easy to see through bullshit and because subtlety in a place like this is very very difficult when almost everyone is super direct and straightforward.

This is why posters like Gaylubeoil and such who post about cheating are needed. They provide a major check against that kind of outside influence. I may not personally agree with it, but I understand the reasoning. Further I also understand the underlying reason behind those types of threads, which is to draw out the SJWs and the anti TRP people. The reality of it is that you can't fake your way into making people believe you agree with TRP.

Also whiteknighting is not tolerated here at all in any form and real talk rules the day. I'm sure the SJWs have tried over and over but they don't have the skill needed to be that subtle and it would take years of effort to get accepted. Additionally, it would have to be a man doing it because women are typically easily identifiable from their posting style alone (it's way less direct and more focused upon emotion) so the odds that one of them could infiltrate here and make waves is probably quite low.

[–]C00l_Guy 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What an uninformed opinion. I'll spoon feed you since you lack imagination. They make posts with their own opinions and downvote anything that goes against it while upvoting their own.

Since they have the numbers and bots it's a very valid concern and already happening in some posts.

[–]Anderfail -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Oh no downvoting! Perhaps if you actually read the posts rather than skimming them and using your fucking brain, you might be able to figure out if someone is spouting bullshit or if someone is using legitimate TRP philosophy.

Of course given the state of men in this generation and their insanely short attention spans, perhaps this is asking too much because they must be told what to think. Jesus Christ if you think people can't use their fucking brains and make their own decisions, especially when we have loads of sidebar material, then we're in a lot bigger trouble than I thought or what a lot of TRP thinks.

[–]C00l_Guy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No need to behave like an infant and make emotional comments. If you want to downplay the extent of opinion manipulation because of your own lack of awareness that is your problem.

However I get the feeling that you're not at all a genuine poster.

[–]Anderfail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only ever said it would be difficult here because the userbase tends to read comments and tends to be more informed and less susceptible to manipulation. It wouldn't be impossible but honestly I doubt SJWs could ever be that subtle, in fact I've never met one who could without showing their true colors. My eyes are open and I understand the threat we face from SJWs, but you're giving them way more power and skills than they actually have. It's easy to get into places like offmychest or askreddit or another general subreddit but it's far harder in an insular place like this where real talk is celebrated and people are consistently told to do their own research rather than take someone's word for it. You act like I have my head in the sand and am ignoring the issue, which could not be further from the truth.

Of course since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte, it's really not surprising that you wouldn't get the implication. You are the exact reason why I can't stand dealing with young people anymore than I have to.

[–]yummyluckycharms 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Interesting indeed....if it is the same circle of moderators that are involved (sockpuppets included), I think he is right that we might be seeing digg 2.0, 4chan, or wikipedia meltdown happening.

Given that the people that head reddit are now working with SJW's, a group that have a proven history of destroying shareholder value to the tune of millions and yet they follow a predictable pattern, I dont think this guy is too far off.

[–]loknarash 54 points54 points [recovered]

I think TRP-swallowing guys always knew that every big subreddit is a circle-jerk of ultra liberal-progressive hivemind pedantic idiocy, but it is nice to see someone really stick their foot in it and push a few buttons, proving the power this little group of faggot tyrants have on our so-called social discourse.

Hope TRP mods do not suffer due to this nonsense.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Indeed. TRP doesn't directly expose Reddit stuff like r/metaredditcancer did, but with 96000 members it's no doubt on the forefront of the cabal's mind.

[–]americanmook 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Thats cause we're just trying to fucking stay alive and not get deleted :/

Really this just puts everyones fear of TRP being deleted last week in perspective. There is indeed a VERY GOOD chance TRP could be deleted.

[–]xPURE_AcIDx 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If trp gets deleted I'm done with reddit and well look for the next forum based social network.

[–]HappyNacho 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have nearly unsubscribed from all default subs. I think the biggest ones I'm subbed to are /r/worldnews (which clearly shows bias sometimes) /r/Android and /r/malefashionadvice.

TRP helped me see the agenda they're pushing everywhere.

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point  (4 children)

We've been planning contingencies for a while. Best thing that ever happened was getting a site-wide automod ban on the term "theredpill."

Yeah, there's drama everywhere, but we just stick to our own business.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's not site-wide, but the mods of most of the defaults have their automoderator settings set to silently remove any comments that contain r/theredpill.

see this thread: r/TheRedPill/comments/2hfx9u

Feel free to test it out. Link to this sub in a comment on r/AskReddit, wait a minute, click permalink, and log out, the comment will be erased for everyone but you.

Not that the RedPill automod settings are much better, I had to resubmit this comment without any links so it wouldn't be removed. But at least it notifies you here.

[–]Hrodrik 0 points1 point  (3 children)

liberal-progressive hivemind

How exactly does this relate to the political correctness bullshit we're seeing?

[–]fortifiedoranges 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Because that's what's pushing this bullshit. The left has gone full fundamentalist, it's the opposite end of the pendulum swing from the late 90s when it was the Christian right complaining about that sort of thing.

[–]magus678 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I would say both ends of the spectrum are the same levels of extreme they have always been, but they have gained more power due to the increased numbers of the apathetic middle.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Reddit is disappearing up its own ass with this story.

Oh, it may be true, but it really doesn't matter. You see, far left lunatics, from the hippies of the previous century to the modern SJW, are generally extremely hateful people. This makes it very hard for them to command people's respect and cooperation for very long.

This is why they end up trying to control the medium, rather than directly command people's attention. They think that, if only they can have some sort of trump card which silences dissent, then everyone will start to agree with them, because the "evil" influences that prevent this will be gone.

The joke, however, is on them. Because hateful people (not just the ones on the political left, but any kind) create their own dissent. People don't hate SRS because of TRP. They hate SRS because of SRS. In fact, many of the people who hate SRS think that we over here are a bunch of extremist weirdos.

But almost no one thinks we are ruining reddit. Because we don't silence dissent. We escort troublemakers out the door, but the instant they are out of TRP, they can say whatever they want. And we'll just treat it like a shit test.

The harder SRS tightens their grip, the more readers will slip through their fingers. You cannot browbeat people into liking you. If SRS, as a group, were to achieve complete control of reddit tomorrow, what would they really control? A bunch of servers on a rack somewhere?

What matters is the people who listen, not the place they listen in. Internet audiences are fickle. When you stop giving them what they want, and start trying to tell them what to want, every other website in the world is just a click away.

[–]Modredpillschool 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what I was thinking reading this. If anything, the existence of TRP (as "hateful" as it is) will become the barometer of freedom on reddit, the underdog if you will. People who disagree with us will start championing our cause in the name of free speech. The enemy of my enemy sort of stuff.

SRS creates their own dissenters, who don't need to agree with us to support us.

Also, I just find the politics amusing to watch, but unless something extreme happens, I don't think we need to participate. Just do what we do till we can't, and then do it somewhere else.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

[–]jacks1000 29 points30 points  (3 children)

There was an article by Gregory Hood of Radix Journal about the old 4chan/pol boards. His point was, essentially, any unmoderated internet forum is going to tend towards a lot of right wing ideas. This is why the left wingers always resort to censorship.

I was banned from PurplePillDebate for "trolling" - yet left wingers, feminists, and social justice warriors are never banned, no matter how much they break the rules, troll, or otherwise circlejerk. One of the mods admitted that Red Pillers were constantly being reported to the mods by Blue Pillers - but almost never the reverse. The Red Pillers didn't bother to report people - they just let it slide. The purpose of PurplePillDebate is to troll red pillers, to accuse red pillers of "sexism" and "misogyny" and make them defend themselves. But criticism of the Blue Pill and SJWs in general is very muted, heavily censored, and if you are effective, you're gone.

The Social Justice Warriors can't win in a fair fight, so they rig the system.

The left must use censorship because most people just don't agree with their insane, nutty ideas. The left is all about controlling discourse, speech policing and sniffing out "thought crime."

We have massive lobbies in America dedicated to fighting "sexism" and "misogyny" and "racism" and "anti-semitism" and "homophobia" and "transphobia." This is simply thought-policing - these are Thought Crimes.

Essentially, George Orwell's 1984 predicted these sorts of leftist anti-speech campaigns precisely.

http://www.radixjournal.com/journal/2015/1/30/do-you-want-the-total-war

[–]2RedPill4LYF -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

I was banned from PurplePillDebate for "trolling" - yet left wingers, feminists, and social justice warriors are never banned, no matter how much they break the rules, troll, or otherwise circlejerk. One of the mods admitted that Red Pillers were constantly being reported to the mods by Blue Pillers - but almost never the reverse. The Red Pillers didn't bother to report people - they just let it slide. The purpose of PurplePillDebate is to troll red pillers, to accuse red pillers of "sexism" and "misogyny" and make them defend themselves. But criticism of the Blue Pill and SJWs in general is very muted, heavily censored, and if you are effective, you're gone.

Pointing all this out is exactly what got me banned, too. When you make posts that really get to the heart of the issues while ignoring all the bullshit derailment attempts, they will resort to flat out censoring you. Check my history and look for the posts in the sub's history and you'll see a number of threads are strangely absent.

After extending every olive branch I could possibly think of, I realized there was just no reasoning with them whatsoever, so I started analyzing their grasp of the words they were using. A thread I made that got censored very heavily was a CMV about the word 'entitlement' being made up to shame male sexuality. What got me banned was a CMV thread titled, "I'm entitled to sex."

The Social Justice Warriors can't win in a fair fight, so they rig the system.

I created a sub on a whim a while back as a counter-measure to the censorship in PPD. /r/TheOrangePeel You can see the thread that I snapshotted and how it was immediately censored. Basically, the idea is that you start a thread that challenges PPD, and screenshot any censorship. You can also use it to point out PPD the subreddit's hypocrisy; there is much, and I encourage it to be highlighted here. Also, it's meant for screenshotting any BBs who blatantly break the rules and creating a sidebar list of users from there who can be disregarded in PPD.

The way I see it, if they aren't going to enforce their own rules against TBP, then we should keep track for them. This is IF anyone really cares that much about beating them at their own game. I got burnt out on consistently kicking the shit out of that sub while being censored relentlessly and didn't care to keep making new accounts just to keep it up, but I could be convinced to join the fray again if there's any interest in my idea. You'll have to demand that my account be unbanned from PPD though, because those lying fuckers fear me. Tell them RedPill4LYF demands that his masculine big healthy balled views be challenged, not banned. Also I told them they're cowards if they say no.

Peace.

[–]jacks1000 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah I remember you. At the end of the day, though, PPD is not worth it. TBP are butthurt trolls - that is all. They took my obviously satirical piece "A Babby Daddy's Letter To His Son" as if it was meant to be "serious advice."

PPD is run by a bunch of Blue Pillers - the only mod that is actually active is CFRProflcopter who has a very hard time being impartial.

As I said in PPD numerous times, TRP might want to debate with /r/feminism, or /r/leftism, or something like that. That could be a worthwhile debate.

But not TBP, as they are just internet trolls.

Have you ever read the TBP site, manboobz.com, home of infamous David Futrelle? That is the type of people that populate TBP.

Why bother? I'm kind of glad I was banned from PPD, because I was wasting too much time there anyway.

[–]2RedPill4LYF -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I was spending a lot of time there too, but I have to admit I learned a lot about their tactics, and I think it's worth it to dismantle all of that sub point by point if for no other reason than to show Reddit how the censorship works. It's no use playing by their rules since it's clearly rigged, so I say we go in with our own rules, record the arguments they can't refute, and have them come to /r/TheOrangePeel to debate us where nothing will get censored. Make those fuckers accountable for what they say and they all hide like cowards. Every time.

The only reason to bother is if we want to expose Reddit to the truth with actual evidence. We arm users with the tools they need and what to be aware of, have them go in, discuss their views, and report back on their experiences. PPD will be shown for the sham that it is, and people will be forced to admit TRP is more credible than the opposition.

I've been looking at other avenues lately, and this shit is much larger than Reddit as you clearly know, but Reddit isn't a bad place to start in fighting the corruption. There is an agenda to make men hate women, and for women to hate men. If we don't expose the agenda now, the agenda will win. Passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.

[–]ManiyaNights 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You want to see real control, try talking about Israel. I can't post in r/news because I did not tow the line.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find a great barometer of that is to insist on writing "Occupied Palestine" - oh ya, you wanna see a double-barrel shit-machine gun that's how you do it.

[–]meet_me_at_high_noon 26 points27 points  (10 children)

Jesus I just went over to SRS because I've never heard of it. WTF.

[–]GRRMkills 47 points47 points [recovered]

It's really funny how TRP is the commonly demonized subreddit here, SRS is not really known that well.

Head to TRP and you find a lot of rationally thought out, albeit not politically correct, discourse. Lots of thought and effort going into most of the posts.

Head over to SRS, straight verbal diarrhea. I suppose it's a good thing though, if they weren't retards then they'd have taken over all of reddit by now.

[–]BlueFreedom420 15 points16 points  (1 child)

This is just the beginning. Soon the US gov will create more hate crimes law esp for the internet. Red Pill be called hate speech and Reddit will bow to the state dept and delete it. You are all heretics against the new world government.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im glad Ive been building a rocket.

[–]cranktacular 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Reddit has been such a success because they discovered a way around the problems of the eternal September. In the past it was a rule that the culture of forums always turns to shit when they get popular. The popularity of a sub is proportional to its tendancy to the lowest common denomination. Reddit makes it easy for people to create new forums when old ones begin to suck and lets users keep the same account when doing so.

The golden rule of reddit is if you dont love it, leave. If you dont like what people are saying or doing on a sub, dont go there. If reddit starts clamping down on user freedoms /u/Here_Comes_The_King and his VC mates might find they've bought themselves a myspace.

[–]notnotnotfred 6 points7 points  (0 children)

On Twitter: #RedditHasCancer

[–]TheBoldakSaints 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Holy fucking cancer. It's like the cancer has cancer has cancer. Are any of these people not fucking losers? How is this your life?

[–]1FunAndFreedom 31 points32 points  (1 child)

This is life for them and trying to gain "power" on the internet is the only form of validation in their lives. When is the last time a Transgender "SJW" has done anything in a business setting? Exactly, they're losers.

These people are so far beneath you and me in the real world it isn't even worth caring about them. There is no reason to argue with some overweight SJW who is either going to off his/her/itself before they're 30 or will waste away praying for the day they can go on disability.

[–]Heraclitus94 70 points71 points  (27 children)

SJW are the perfect puppets because they think they are smarter than everyone else because of their $200,000 college degree and enlightened sense of liberalism. They paint every issue as black and white, either you are with them or you are a misogynist/racist/homophobic all around horrible person and people will use that system to brainwash people into ignoring the real issues and not thinking objectively. Militarization of police? No! It's a racial issue! Don't think objectively! Buy that organic $10 gallon of milk that is literally the same as regular milk. Don't vaccinate you're kid!

I've said it before and I'll say it again, we can either be free or we can be comfortable and society has made it's choice.

edit: grammar

[–]Nantafiria 35 points36 points  (10 children)

You come to that conclusion after having just written that these idots make everything a black and white issue. The irony is strong in your post.

[–]Heraclitus94 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Well unfortunately there's no arguing with them because if you give them one little point, that completely invalidates everything you've said, so as much as you want to have an intelligent discussion you can't.

[–]Nantafiria -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

How does that address the irony of your post at all? I never went into arguments with SJW types whatsoever.

[–]Heraclitus94 2 points3 points  (6 children)

I don't know, just outright say it?

[–]Veldashok 22 points22 points [recovered]

The point of what he's trying to say is hopelessly lost on you, it went right over your head. It's actually a little humorous, which is why I'm commenting.

While I don't disagree with the fact that its a waste to start an argument with these SJWs, the responder to your comment is right in that you are technically falling into the same erroneous pattern of thinking of "painting things into two camps and choosing one to hate vehemently".

You then follow it up with saying there's no point in arguing with them because they'll take things out of context, right before you immediately do the same thing yourself in response to him pointing out a flaw in your opinion, (you don't refute his point, only his method of delivery for not "outright saying it").

[–]bananashammock 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Some things are black and white, though. You are either a used car sales man or you aren't. You either meet some definition of a SJW on account of the way you act, or you don't. The trouble with SJW's is that they see everything as black and white based on whether you agree with them or not, according to this guy. Maybe I am not seeing it right, but he doesn't seem to be doing what he's railing against, really.

[–]Johnny10toes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I didn't see it either. I see it as they think they have all the answers. I'm a smart guy. So smart that I don't delude myself into thinking that I have all the answers.

[–]Veldashok 1 points1 points [recovered]

You mean setting up two camps of people (SJW's who make things black and white and non SJW's) and failing to acknowledge both the shades of grey between the camps, and the irony of his statement? I think it's pretty black and white to me.

Also, he retorted with an attack on the guy's method of presenting the argument (just come out and say it?) instead of refuting the actual claim the argument supports. That was just the icing of amusement.

[–]bananashammock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He says SJW's paint every issue as black and white. He doesn't indicate that he does so as well. I think you guys are just being silly geese.

[–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Buy that organic $10 gallon of milk that is literally the same as regular milk. Don't vaccinate you're kid!

Except that reddit is viciously against organic foods and anti-vaccination.

[–]Coldretter 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Reddit is anti vac? have we been on the same reddit?

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

against organic foods and anti-vaccination.

I think he means against anti-vac.

[–]dan7899 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Funny fact about black and white: between the two there are an infinite amount of shades of gray. Of which, we are only able to perceive, at most, 256 shades of gray.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorF9R 24 points25 points  (0 children)

That's fine; I only need 50.

[–]_xen 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Actually I sometimes wonder how much and in what ways is this subreddit infiltrated and subverted by moneyed interests, intelligence agencies and what not.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen[S] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

You can bet your left nut, that there are shills active in this place.

[–]ubiety 10 points10 points [recovered]

Quickest way to detect a shill? She disagrees with your opinion without offering a valid alternative. If they offer an alternative, it involves making yourself feel bad for your thoughts or actions, or trying to shame your for believing a certain mindset without explaining themselves. Shills are unhelpful and misdirect attention whenever possible away from the topic.

[–]MacNulty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, if somebody without an established authority disagrees without giving a sound argument one should dismiss their opinions on the spot, regardless of who that person is - shill or not.

[–]Anderfail 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh there are I'm sure but it's really really difficult to do in a place like this. TRP follows evo-psych philosophy, which is ridiculously difficult to counter as it uses actual evidence. If an argument involves emotion or is a carepost, it's almost always a shill. SJWs cannot handle real talk at all, which is one of the reasons why they don't tend to last long in places like this.

[–]Doctor_Mayhem 26 points27 points  (22 children)

Never underestimate the power and will of the radical SJW army.

This, more than anything else. These people may be laughably pathetic in their daily lives, and their laughable patheity also ensures that should the shit hit the fan, they are the first to die, but...

Infiltration, manipulation, subversion, conversion. This is how the SJW, and by extension all leftoids operate.

Never underestimate the ability of the extreme left to infiltrate and destroy something from within.

Memorize my saying.

Infiltrate, manipulate, subvert, convert. This is how they operate.

[–]Hrodrik 13 points14 points  (20 children)

Never underestimate the ability of the extreme left to infiltrate and destroy something from within.

I don't understand why red pill has to have any political connotations. Is this a right wing subreddit or a "open your eyes" subreddit? Because there is a huge difference between them.

You know what else is left wing? The majority of the scientific community, people who can see facts for what they are.

Why can't we see these political correctness idiots for what they are, instead of relating them to people who want to live in a society with fair wages, environmental protection, regulations that protect the public, that accept differences between people (instead of denying them) etc.?

You guys think you are so aware but sometimes you show signs of extreme ignorance as well.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The problem is that many liberal ideas are directly at odds with RP thought. Certainly not all, but it requires some mental gymnastics to have the two co-exist. The idea that everyone is equal flies completely at odds with most of what we discuss here.

Let me tell you something about the academic community, as I once used to do research. A huge section of academic research is completely walled off, as it's deemed too politically unviable. It risks drying up funding, so it's never researched. Determining the genetic predispositions for IQ variance among races, for example, cannot be so much as even discussed.

Does that sound like an RP stance? It's hard to reconcile these ideas.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

"Determining the genetic predispositions for IQ variance among races, for example, cannot be so much as even discussed."

It's already been done to death and didn't turn up anything, that's why.

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No, that's not true at all. The fact that you believe so is very telling about how effective the academic blockade really is.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe nothing. I work only from observation, from fact.

[–]laughingmanzero 1 point2 points  (11 children)

I wonder why you were being downvoted. I've seen that a lot on here when somebody seems to favor a left leaning political ideology. I've only just started reading here, but I don't understand the political favoritism that seems to pop up throughout this sub. Personally, I was under the impression this was just a sub dedicated to making a better man out of yourself and recognizing what women really are so you aren't blindsided IRL. You seemed to have a well thought out post just like some of the top threads here and yet users downvoted you because you're an "extreme left winger". I don't mean to generalize this sub, but damn, all we do in here is face harsh logically deduced truths, so why all the hate for a logical comment?

[–]fortifiedoranges 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because liberalism supports a broken and left-leaning people make shitty laws that affect men poorly. Because academia is far-left and it breeds the type of people TRP hates.

There's the great saying: Young conservatives are heartless, old liberals are brainless.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

The way TRP views human nature fundamentally opposes the way liberalism views human nature. Of course that doesn't mean that all ideas supported by leftists are automatically bad -- but generally they are not compatible with the view of human nature that is exposed here.

[–]Hrodrik 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Human nature is that of a social animal, where the immediate instinct is to assure the good of the self but on the long term the survival of self and offspring depends on the well being of the community. The "me" mentality can only get you so far.

Where would we be if or ancestors hadn't pooled resources for the community, how many family lines would have disappeared just because the man of the house got wounded during a hunt and was out of commission for a few days or weeks? Where would we be if women didn't take care of each others children while others foraged or crushed grain or cooked?

Civilization is a product of the ability of men to work for the public good as soon as their own basic needs are met. Right wingers in general fail to realize this.

Now, there is a difference between the economic left right spectrum and the social freedom spectrum. And in my opinion a society with a high level of social freedom (which is what i presume liberalism means in your post) can only work when there is proper education, and that includes TRP philosophy (i.e. psychobiology, evo psych, etc) and both women and men understanding the consequences of their actions. They should have the freedom to act the way they want to though.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Totally agree that you're more right wing than you think you are. If you read the intellectuals behind the leftist movement, not just the propagandists, they say that human nature is a "blank slate" that we can mold to work for the good of society.

The fact that you acknowledge we have a basic selfish instinct, and also a tendency to cooperate, means you believe human nature to be universal and inevitable instead of completely moldable and fixable.

[–]Hrodrik 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It is moldable. We just have different materials to work work with (genetics) and must understand them so we can shape them into the best thing they can be for themselves and for society.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You are saying that human nature is moldable because of genetics?

That's strange logic. Human nature is the way it is, static and universal, because of genetics.

When we are advanced enough to genetically engineer psychological predispositions (not even close to that level) then yes, personalities will be changed and molded with respect to an individual's "default" setting. But just because you can turn dials up and down, on and off, doesn't change the way they're wired or the system they are a part of.

But that's all getting away from my point. Leftists believe each individual is 100% moldable now -- they thought this 150 years ago.

[–]Hrodrik 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I said that it's moldable, but limited by genetics. You can still educate people so that they don't become criminals, don't have daddy issues, don't have an exaggerated political correctness drive, etc. You can't make a caring, empathetic, rich PhD out of everyone but you can have the vat majority of people be productive non-criminal members of society with the right upbringing.

Leftists believe each individual is 100% moldable

This is an amazing claim. So left wingers think that you can turn a retard into a physicist? Left wingers accept that there are differences, and want to allow everyone to succeed as much as they are able to within their own limits. Miracles are for the religious right though, who think that gay people are gay by choice and can have normal relationships if they want.

Don't let a few cunts and neckbeards make you think that the progressive left is something other than allowing empirical and scientific evidence dictate policy. If unrealistic feminism has infiltrated left wing policy, then it is a matter of time until new evidence comes out showing that mistakes are being made. A typical left wing government will learn from mistakes instead of burying their head in the sand like right wingers usually do.

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can still educate people so that they don't become criminals

ya: you can teach them to avoid getting caught, and you can teach them to get so corrupt they remake laws to keep themselves exempt from punishment by definition

[–]1oldredder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Civilization is a product of the ability of men to work for the public good as soon as their own basic needs are met. Right wingers in general fail to realize this.

NO, that's precisely what people did who identify as "right wing" today even though the left vs right dichotomy is a false puppet-show. It's what both liberals and conservatives 200 years ago did.

[–]1oldredder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

liberalism is poorly defined and isn't "left" or "right"

The "left" and "right" both are puppet-shows from a single source today meant only to bog down people with in-fighting instead of fighting a common enemy.

[–]SWABteam 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Why is shitredditsays allowed to even exist? The entire sub seems to be a means for these people to single out users of reddit and then dox/harass them. Isn't this against reddit ToS and bannable?

[–]Morrigi_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When have you ever found an SJW that wasn't hypocritical, much less a hive of them?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Cultural MarxismTM

Fuck em all.

Just not, ye know, figuratively.

Also: https://voat.co/v/MetaRedditCancer

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I got banned from /r/offmychest when someone posted about being a war veteran with PTSD, to which a user called them a baby-killer that should kill themselves, I then called said user a asshole and OP was a hero. I was banned for that.

On a more serious note, I feel deeply sorry for my fellow LGBT members on Reddit because most of us find /r/LGBT first. It is a toxic community that is everything wrong with the LGBT community. If you are not at least a minority in three different areas you will be bullied and shouted at until you stop talking. Most, if not all, LGBT subreddits are controlled by the same group of people who are abusive to normal LGBT individuals. /r/gaybros, /r/gay, /r/aindow, it is all the same people and it is sad. I think the only one that really has survived is /r/gaymers and that is because the subreddit is too absurd for SJW to maintain control. It makes me sad that so few people control so much because so many people are harmed.

[–]Smekiz 11 points12 points  (10 children)

This is the kind of war you immediately lose by participating in, in the end SJW's are still laughed out of the room IRL, and seeing them clambering to control a small part of the internet is just tragic

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen[S] 10 points11 points  (6 children)

That part isn't that small anymore if you consider that all mainstream-media is actually behaving accordingly to established standards of thought-control, and many places on the internet are as well.

It's more about rotting out the last ressorts of free speech as soon as they reach a critical size and impact.

Just recapitulate what happened to 4chan.

[–]TwoScoopsofDestroyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The default subreddits are where they are, the most viewed part of the site, it gets much better when you just ditch the defaults and make your own FrontPage.

[–]Smekiz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the end it's just white noise. People have found ways to act retarded since the dawn of man, nothing i can do about that, and thus i simply don't give a fuck instead.

[–]1User-31f64a4e 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. The internet allows people do organize in a decentralized, leaderless way; that terrifies anyone with an agenda that involves control, including both SJWs and the people who own the mainstream media.

So yes, these little hotspots of truth must be stopped lest the great unwashed somehow wake the fuck up and force changes.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can someone explain the 4chan thing beyond saying moot made sjw's moderators? I havent browsed 4chan much since I joined reddit about 5 years ago so I guess I'm out of date

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow that was a great read. I would like to see more evidence though of how GG, 4chan, and this cabal shit are all related. It's easy to generalize and say "yeah it's all the same people" but I can't just take that on faith, even though i suspect it to be true

[–]Dick-Tracy 1 points1 points [recovered]

Real life values can and will be changed by these sorts of people. Already, at universities, they've taken over the dialogue and are absolutely not laughed out of any rooms. It only takes about a decade for these university attitudes to percolate outward into the media and politics, in a big feedback cycle....

[–]Smekiz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

In that case, there is still nothing i can do about it, it's The fate of empires.

[–]Lesic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are not social justice warriors, they are social injustice pawns...

[–]clone9786 2 points3 points  (1 child)

How the fuck do they organize this shit? Is there a central hub? We have redpill, what do they do/use? Or are they so deranged and chaotic that they can cause a splinter cell sort of deal by just vomiting out words like misogyny???

EDIT: I'd like to mention that while it's ok to be paranoid, don't let it go unchecked. Paranoia can lead to hysteria, even in a place of critical thinking like ours. keep your wits about you and everything should be silky smooth.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (8 children)

This is what happens when you let women use the internet. Mass censorship.

[–]TwoScoopsofDestroyer -6 points-5 points  (7 children)

This is just like when we let them vote, they soon unleashed the first Nukes on civilian populations.

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[–]MacNulty 1 point2 points  (4 children)

We're all social animals because it's an efficient survival strategy, thus we're all susceptible to manipulation. Feminisation of men also relies on group think so when you say that feminised men suffer from group think you have some circle logic going on. Your premise is not that bad because indeed women are more social than men but overall I think your point is huge stretch and oversimplification. There are many issues at play, not every social phenomenon is the manifestation of the sexes.

[–]ubiety 3 points3 points [recovered]

Classical feminine qualities, especially submissiveness, are what I'm referring to when I claim "women are easily manipulatable". Most women still fall within a classical feminine conditioning. Feminism has tried to "help" women act more like men and deal with man's chauvinist tendencies. Feminism has also help men "get in touch with their emotions", meaning feminism feminizes men to act and think more like women, which is more emotional based than logic based.

I'm not sure what part relies on circle reasoning, or what part is over simplifying today's social heiracrhy. Due to feminism, men are becoming more emotionally expressive, and women more logical and "man-like". One of my points is that socialization is only half the nature vs. nurture debate. Regardless of societal programming, men born as men will tend to act like men and women born as women will tend to act like women. Is that circular? No it's baseline gender attributes inherent in our genetics. What makes a man a man makes him a man, what makes a women a women makes her a women. I'm not making intense jumps in logic, this is how biology works. Sure, our socialization impacts our choices and sociological tendencies sway our actions, but these attributes are arbitrary and external and vary from culture to culture. Homo sapiens drive to have sex and reproduce bridges all cultural differences.

The complexity comes once you throw in gender and sexual preferences. Men born as men who think like men. Men born as women who think like men. Men born as women who think like women. Women born as men who think like men. Women born as women who think like men. Women born as women who think like women. You can throw on more things like sexual preference and the conversation gets more complicated.

My point is men born as men who think like men who are heterosexual - the vast majority of society - are being socially conditioned to think like women, meaning, to think collectively and emotionally rather than selfish and logically. Logically speaking, it doesn't make sense to share resources with someone unless they offer a mutual benefit. A bunch of plugged-in men give so much of their energy to others simply because they are taught to be nice guys and be selfless, regardless of the circumstances. Silly on the guy's part, but that's what happens when you're a nice guy, you don't think about your own self-interests, you constantly worry about the collective's nterest and essentially sacrifice your life for the benefit of others. To me, this only makes sense for your immediate family, but now society thinks my family includes them and big daddy govern!sent wants to assume the caretaker role of the fatherly patriarch.

The majority of women think collectively, they naturally gravitate toward feminist doctrine, Marxist teachings. All individuals in society are equal and resources should be split equally among these individuals. This only works if everyone thinks they're equal to their peers, and work as hard as their peers, which is obviously not how human civilization works. It could also work if each person saw the other as a family member - again - not how we think. Because of this, we have a class differential and a steep gradient between the wealthy and poor. "Hard" work does not equate to tons of money. Some of the hardest workers make no money. There's inequality and feminism, in part, wishes to remove that inequality by removing competition and making all work as close to equal as possible. If the super rich wanted to, they would donate their money to impoverished individuals world wide and everyone would have equal chance in life... And the economy collapses. All men and women are created equal, and should be allowed equal opportunity, but this opportunity is different from redistributing wealth from the rich to the poor. Equal opportunity does not mean everyone gets the same shit, it means everyone gets a chance at the same shit if they desire to obtain it.

All this propaganda regarding women being better than men, women working harder than men, women being smarter on average than men, women being the pinnacle of human existence, all this pandering to women makes perfect sense from a feminist perspective. In order for women to succeed in a male workforce, they must first act like men, rise the ranks, then change the structure how they deem fit. It'll take awhile, and it might be for the better, but it can also be for the worse. We'll probably end up with more Marxist equality, but as I already explained this system wouldn't truly work.

Now, men have little to no male role models in our society because almost all male role models have been deemed too toxic by modern standards. Very few young male adults have their shit together and it's clear based on all the statistics that men have "fallen behind" and women are happy to supersede them. In an ideal world, I want men to think like men without feeling bad, anxious or villianized for having an agenda opposite of women, but here we are discussing why men are more feminized today than before 2nd wave feminism, and why, in part "rewiring" how men think and how women think will cause a bunch of issues with personal identity and the well-being of each sex.

Anyway, I think what I think because I think this way :). You're free to think otherwise as long as things make sense from your perspective.

[–]Modredpillschool 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Quality stuff so far down the comment chain. ♂

Classical feminine qualities, especially submissiveness, are what I'm referring to when I claim "women are easily manipulatable". Most women still fall within a classical feminine conditioning. Feminism has tried to "help" women act more like men and deal with man's chauvinist tendencies. Feminism has also help men "get in touch with their emotions", meaning feminism feminizes men to act and think more like women, which is more emotional based than logic based.

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[–]teeelo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Should I be surprised TheBluePill was mentioned in that list?

I thought they were just a bunch of butt hurt faggots projecting their insecurities about TRP, but this is much worse.

[–]1cover20 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Maybe they're the ones watering down the "sexual strategy" message here, or enabling it to persist despite the efforts of our excellent moderators.

[–]Modredpillschool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, there have been complaints of dilution since we had 10 members. The quality here has always been pretty decent in my tenure here.

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[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Actually, from my experience male feminists tend to be lanky white dudes. I'm almost positive low-testosterone levels play a factor.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Welcome to the future of the internet. Not just reddit, but the internet entirely. You have a disagreement with a feminist or SJW? Too fucking bad, you're banned/outed. Either way you go this is the gawd awful future.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

I've never ward about SRS until just now, so I decided to read the side bar explaining what there about. I found it really interesting that they mention misogyny(hatred of women)being something to hate but they didn't mention misandry(hatred of men) This is just pathetic

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 8 points9 points  (3 children)

According to them, misandry does not exist. Cis people are always oppressive to them, as are men, and anyone who isn't a special snowflake like they are.

It's a fucking religion, dogma, shouting, terrorism, and lying for the cause are all present in their daily bullshit. Tell them that sometime, if we could harness the nuclear hamster frommit we could travel the universe.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I still remember a time where I was debating something with a feminist. I couldn't get through to her with logic, so I began to deconstruct where the logical disconnect was with her.

She was using a definition of racism that wasn't in any dictionary. Yeah, let me just make my own definition for a word and use it in normal conversation! Literally an idiot.

She was too stupid to understand why doing something like this is counter to having a productive discussion. I hoped that an iota of logic could make it through her SJW armor of being an african-american-unicorn, dragon-kin, gold medalist of the victim olympics. I left with on this note "The next time you debate someone, make sure you notify them that you are using an alternate definition for a word that is not in any dictionary."

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rape, racism, and Hitler are really bad things, so they try to make as many innocuous non events into them. They don't realize that calling eye contact rape dillutes the effectiveness of the word, in essence making rape just another mild thing.

They will also say minorities can't be racist, and not see the irony of it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wait, is that a trans group?

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Misogyny' is a power word they use to disarm men. It immediately puts men on the defensive as it's a terrible label to be associated with in public. It's enough to get you fired from your job. Feminists know how powerful words and labels can be, so they use them as control tools. This is why maintaining frame and ignoring their words is generally a successful means of handling them.

They're not looking to accurately use labels. They'd call a dog misogynist if they thought they could use it to control them.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

A SJW is nothing more than a grandiose egomaniacs. Why people enable these Liberal Arts degree college idiots I will never know.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It also takes a good portion of narcissism and megalomania to believe that your opinion, and none but your opinion, should serve as the standard for universal morality.

[–]nmagod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

give it a bit, this thread will get deleted, too

edit: I'm trying to save that archive page for reading offline, right, but every time I try my internet completely disconnects

edit 2: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17649069/what.png

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I am just shocked that there is no mention of TheRedPill sub in the initial lists.

Could this equate to a widespread acceptance of the red pill viewpoint?

[–]cowboyhaze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So have the Reddit admins addressed this?

[–]Luckyluke23 1 point2 points  (0 children)

can someone please explain to me what happened to digg. i was too young at the time to use the site or / didn't know about it.

thanks

[–]_orion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yay Ive been sjw banned!! Also im pretty sure lifehacks should be on that list also.

[–]aazav 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can we add SJW to the Glossary of Terms, because it's used a lot and I have no idea what it means.

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/

[–]Modredpillschool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Social Justice Warrior.

[–]RoseEsque 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, just now I realized that we I am in RedPill and not how I automatically assumed KiA!

[–]The_Americano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only other subreddits I frequent are fitness and Keto related. Other than that I stay off the grass.

[–]stinkyrico 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What is SJW?

[–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Social justice warrior.

[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Hardcore SJW "leftists" mostly exist and thrive in the echo chamber of the SF Bay area, and on some college campuses.

It concerns me to see their antics turned into rants on TRP about "Leftists" this and "Leftists" that, when they are annoying to the majority of mainstream non-right-wing thinkers.

Before railing against "the left" as if it's a natural enemy of Red Pill thought, try talking about spinning plates in a (very right wing) church group, or your numerous much younger girlfriends with the blue suit/red tie wearing CEO of your company. Then see if you have anything remaining to try to make TRP a left/right partisan thing.

SJWs should be fought against, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. There are plenty who self-identify as "left" who loathe the wide mouthed/narrow minded extremists as strongly as you. Joining forces with them will have greater effect than carelessly lumping them in with the SJW extremists.

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[–]Senior ContributorMentORPHEUS 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How about a pre-emptive GFY in return, because you apparently got to the word "concern" and said, "Aha! Concern troll!"

Check out Unitarians if you need an example of a largely left-leaning group that would likely align with Red Pill ideas but against the closed-minded feminists.

Dismissing the entire left of the political spectrum because Feminists is plugged-in behavior, my friend.

ETA: I have no idea what a "possible SRS damage control acct" is.

[–]libertypole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

never checked out srs before. are those people really upset about the content that gets posted? it just reads like a funny joke forum. /subscribes

[–]Stainle55_Steel_Rat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

All this will be forgotten in 5 minutes. Who cares? What practical effect did/does this have on my life? None.