Red Pill ExampleComedian Michael Che Attacked for Suggesting That Maybe Getting Called Beautiful Isn't the Worst Act of Harassment - Handles it like a pro (self.TheRedPill)

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He tweeted this in response to the video of the woman walking through NYC for 10 hours, getting called beautiful:

i wanna apologize to all the women that ive harrassed with statements like "hi" or "have a nice day" or "youre beautiful". i cant imagine what that must feel like. the closest thing I've experienced is maybe when a girl recognizes me from tv and they say things like "AHHHH!! OH MY GOD!! SNL SNL SNL!! TAKE A PICTURE!! TAKE A PICTURE!! I LOVE YOU SO MUCH!! WHATS YOUR NAME AGAIN?! THANK YOU!! THANK YOU!! WAIT SAY SOMETHING FUNNY!!" but even that is nothing like the harrassment of having a complete stranger tell me to "smile."

Naturally, we can't have a man claiming that he actually receives more harassment than a woman, so people tweet in response vague attacks on him that ignore his point.

Che follows up with some agree & amplify

i think some of u are misunderstanding that post. im simply just making fun of something that is important to a lot of people.

People still want his head on a platter, so he offers up another apology, not backing down and demonstrating some MGTOW ideas.

i wanna apologize for my last apology. sometimes i forget that i belong to all of you now, and that any thought i have should be filtered through you, and receive ur approval. its tough, because im used to taking risks and finding humor in places of discomfort. but thats all over, cause i have a job on tv. and if i say the wrong thing youll see to it that its taken away. so the next time i have a silly thought, ill giggle to myself, keep my mouth shut, & post a picture with my arm around a more famous person i met somewhere.

It's odd that the side that constantly calls for a "conversation" on these issues immediately tries to shut down anyone talking about it in a way they don't approve of.

[–]zpatriarchy 272 points273 points  (34 children)

ha, nice. another celebrity who realizes that he doesn't need to pander to the SJWs to remain famous.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 138 points139 points  (4 children)

He handled it like a pro, without having to beg forgiveness or pull out his race card.

He points out an interesting fact: A woman has instant minor celebrity status because...

Youth + Beauty + Pussy = Celebrity to a thirsty man

[–]1TRPingBalls[S] 103 points104 points  (3 children)

I really do respect him for standing his ground and refusing to sidestep the point by pointing out that as a black man, he probably gets harassed way more, and in more serious ways. None of that oppression Olympics bullshit.

[–]RockTurgidson 76 points76 points [recovered]

Seriously. As a black dude, I'd take getting verbally assaulted with a "God bless" and "Good morning" or two over being harassed by the police.

[–]Nydusurmainus 33 points34 points  (28 children)

The experiment was worth nothing anyway. They did it with one really hot chick all done up like she was going somewhere. Do it with an average woman dressed like she is going to work or some shit

[–]myhipsi 35 points36 points  (4 children)

Not only that, but all of the "harassment" came from, what appeared to be, lower class individuals. If she had done this on Wall St. or Fifth avenue (or anywhere else where most people have a modicum of self respect) she likely would not have gotten so much as a "hello".

[–]1Dev_on 16 points17 points  (1 child)

that and for any reasonable person to consider 99% of it harassment, they'd have to be a bitter prick who hates people.

but it's easy for those who may have gotten real (or imagined) harassment to fill the gaps with their own experience. No one really is talking about her, they are pretending it's them in that movie

[–]CryptoManbeard 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Also factor in that she diluted 10 hours of footage into a few minutes. 10 hours is a long fucking time to walk around a city, if you averaged it out that's like a "cat call" every 15 minutes. And some of her footage was shit like , "Have a nice day!" and "You're beautiful."

Oh the horror....

[–]mister_barfly75 54 points55 points  (19 children)

That was not a really hot chick.

[–]muyuu 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I thought she was pretty average, but wearing super-tight jeans on a big butt in the ghetto is always going to attract some attention.

[–]Kellermann 43 points44 points  (11 children)

5/10 White standards or 8/10 Black standardss

[–]through_a_ways 20 points21 points  (0 children)

She was in a ghetto place, and we never saw what her butt looked like.

Enough said.

[–]Batemanx 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Im black and didnt find her anything special

[–]KenuR 3 points4 points  (8 children)

Really? You guys must have super high standards, because she's at least a 7 in my book. Not that it matters, just saying.

[–]vanel 4 points5 points  (5 children)


She's certainly not unattractive, but I think that's being generous. She's curvy in all the right places, I think that adds a lot to her attractiveness, but her face is overwhelmingly average.

[–]KenuR 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Her face is average, but if you look at the whole package then she is definitely a 7 to me.

[–]back_in_towns 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yup. 7/10, but 10/10 would hit it repeatedly. Source: am black.

[–]Bascome 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yeah with makeup and from a distance while moving quickly past me with confident strides and extremely tight clothing making her ample boobs bounce and her butt the focus of my attention in public and not a club she is totally a 7....

I can make another video with the same girl where no one says shit in 10 hours.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Put a sweatshirt on her that covers her curves, she will be lucky to get a hello.

[–]sciencegod -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Once you've tasted real caviar, everything else is stinky fish bait.

[–]xxhamudxx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree and think it's subjective as fuck.

[–]1aguy01 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I can't tell if it's just hamstering or if it's too much porn but if that girl doesn't get your dick hard then something is wrong.

[–]mister_barfly75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no doubt that under the right circumstances she could get my dick hard, I'm just saying that she's not a really hot chick. But if you get hard looking at some moody looking girl stomping around Harlem then, yes, there's definitely something wrong and you need to up your standards.

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[–]mister_barfly75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How? She's fuckable, granted, but she's not what I'd call a really hot chick.

Also, so what if I have standards? I'd rather fuck one 10 than ten 1s. Fuck me or preferring quality over quantity.

[–]hisgrossness 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've always thought it was polite to acknowledge and compliment either the natural beauty of a person, or the beauty they have obviously put the effort into achieving. (i.e. all done up) I think tone is probably very important and also your own looks come into play as well. (a complement generally is perceived as better if it is coming from someone who the compliment is also true of)

[–]Bascome 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How fucking tight a t shirt can you find is what i was thinking?

[–]gohammer3 145 points146 points  (64 children)

"Street Harrasment is a human rights issue!"

I'm literally baffled at how far this is going.

[–]666Evo 95 points96 points  (46 children)

Saying someone in the street is beautiful "helps make rape okay and lets rapists get away with their crime".
This is utter insanity!

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[–]666Evo 75 points76 points  (22 children)

I think I've read it around here before. It's simply a means for women to pre-decline unwanted advances from (her perception of) average Joe. She's entitled to a 9-10, so these 6-8's that are trying to chat her up? Ew.

A man can talk to a stranger, as long as his SMV is significantly higher than hers. Equal to, or lower than? That's rape, son.

[–]streetsorcerer 46 points47 points  (3 children)

"Where have all the good men gone??"

[–]occupythekitchen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if they speak they wont get sex from their wife, if they cheat they'll pay alimony and lose custody. We dealt women a royal flush and are still trying to play poker with them.....

[–]LasherDeviance 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're around. Bitches just can't see them because they are betas.

A beta is literally invisible to a pre-wall chick with good looks.

[–]Zaorish9 19 points20 points  (4 children)

As I get older and more experienced I see this more and more. When I was a kid I stifled my desire to say hi to cute waitresses/girls on the train, absolutely certain somehow it would be "sexual harassment" and I would be a creep/be put in jail. then I was routinely baffled and humiliated and angered when good-looking guys would do the exact same thing and be met with giggles. I struggle to remember even now how that idea got into my head.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (3 children)

It's just cultural osmosis. How many movies/shows depict the alpha jock being direct and dominant with the chick, only for her to brush him aside for the beta male lead character who looks on and is somehow "different" from all the other guys. She proceeds to be sexually forward with him instead. How many times does this narrative play out in real life? Never, but this seems correct to impressionable youths.

[–]rpkarma 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Hey now, it did play out like that for me when I was a geek in highschool. However, I was attractive physically, just a bit shy, and she was a bit of a crazy slut. I'm glad she did though, as that was what made me begin to be a man.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I would've stayed a virgin if it weren't for a crazy slut.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume you understand this is the exception, and not the rule. The fantasy depiction depicts it as the opposite.

[–]paynehouse 14 points15 points  (11 children)

Exactly, this whole thing is the equivalent of a man complaining that ugly woman always come onto him. It's like, it sucks for him, but nobody cares.

[–]666Evo 16 points17 points  (9 children)

And it doesn't even suck that bad. It's a compliment that, multiplied over time, eventually gets a little annoying.
I'm so sorry that you get complimented so often that it's become annoying... perhaps you could adjust your frame of reference and understand that shit ain't that bad.

[–]paynehouse 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Haha seriously, adjust something! It's like women are too stubborn to change their ways. Or they think they are entitled to do whatever the fuck they want. I'm sorry women, but sometimes you have to change things yourself in life instead of complaining.

Instead of fixing the problem herself, this woman literally walked around aimlessly for ten hours in NYC. WTF!!!

[–]666Evo 7 points8 points  (2 children)

That's it though. It's not a problem. It's only a problem because of the self centred-ness that's so prevalent these days.

Take a second to think that you got compliments (and admittedly, a couple of weirdos that would be a little intimidating) for 10 hours. Someone else, somewhere in the world, got beaten for the majority of those 10 hours. Someone in NYC was more than likely actually raped during that 10 hours (Probably. Don't have any stats to back this up).

I get it. It's a little annoying. But understand you have a certain (dare I say, privileged) frame of reference.

[–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women in Kyrgyzstan were getting kidnapped and forced to marry while you complained about how are you's. Awesome.

[–]paynehouse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah problems are completely relative.

[–]mtersen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! They think they are entitled to act however they want and everything must change to suit them.

[–]1Ill_mumble_that 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Here the thing too. These same women will go out in Yoga pants and skin-grabbing tops in an attempt to show off their figure. Their attire is screaming: "I'm fertile, come talk to me." But if you aren't a rich tall handsome confident male celebrity then its harassment to accept her public invitation.

[–]soThisIsHowItEnds 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"There is such an abundance of food where I live that obesity is a problem. The only thing wrong with the country is our extreme sin of gluttony because we built the global economy by force. If we fall down, the world will come with us. I haven't been the victim of systemic prejudice in my life. How can I be a hero of 'human rights' when the entire system is built for me? I haven't anything to complain about, so I will create a problem that never existed for me, just so I can complain."

[–]LasherDeviance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly if only ugly hoes came onto me, I would take advantage of that shit and take all of those hoes money.

I would be the"Ugly Bitch King".

Every situation has an advantage, the point is to find out what that advantage is and exploit it.

[–]fuckeh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the girl in the video met her boyfriend on a train. He took an empty seat next to her and got her number. Personally I think that's actually kinda worse since you're on a moving train, it's almost like she's stuck there. On the street she can just keep walking.

Can't remember if it's the NYC girl or the one that dressed like a hooker in Detroit.

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[–]OsoFeo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

men lean on ... the workplace to get to know women...

But that's sexual harassment!

[–]waynebradysworld 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Morning after regret isn't rape. Groping isnt rape. Harassment isn't rapr .

Rape is when someone breaks into your sisters house, destroys her belongings, fucks her and beats her unconscious... Ultimately leading to her suicide.

Rape is when a kiddy fiddler fucks some young lad, permanently disfiguring his anus and leaving scars up and down his legs.

climbs off soapbox

[–]heist_of_saint_graft 8 points9 points  (2 children)

permanently disfiguring his anus

You got on a soapbox to say that?

[–]Smekiz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

more PSAs should contain the word "anus".

[–]limit_breaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those four words are worth a soapbox.

[–]occupythekitchen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I read that green text too!

[–]mrheh 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I'll be honest all the good looking girls I know (>8) don't give a shit for the most part. Being a good looking women is the equivalent of a real life super power, I have no pitty for them.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's the 6s and 7s who complain about this type of shit. It's their way of humblebragging. Women who are actually hot tend to enjoy and expect attention from men, not freak out and call it rape.

[–]yourenogood 8 points9 points  (1 child)

What is the end game, make it illegal for men to talk to strangers?

From the linked article:

It ultimately reveals that Che does not understand what is so problematic about street harassment: Men feeling entitled to direct their unsolicited thoughts at women

Men only have the right to speak when allowed to, like a feudal age serf or a child in school.

[–]occupythekitchen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It used to be the opposite y'know

[–]cynwrig 2 points3 points  (1 child)


What instead of a "hi beautiful" they give you an energy drink and claim that it helps you 'run faster and jump higher'. Is that harrassment?

[–]limit_breaker 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm not a part of your system!

[–]nrjk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is the end game, make it illegal for men to talk to strangers?

One brilliant feminist, after trying and failing in the courts, will suggest all women wear one of these as it will be the only way to keep men from objectifying women. They will come in fall and summer patterns!

[–]occupythekitchen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well it's been building up, it started with them saying eww to gross to guys who approached and they didn't like now it's evolved to be rape. We need to reinstate the patriarchy this is going too far. Women just want to push things in their direction and we all can agree lots of vocal women are fucking crazy

[–]back_in_towns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They've considered using women-only railcars on UK metro and elsewhere. Imagine the possibilities...

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My ultimate interest would be for people who catcall to just go "hmmm. I didn't know it bothered girls that bad, when I tell them they look beautiful". That's never going to happen when you start accusing men of advocating rape or trying to display their power over women. Automatically people are going to defend their character, instead of listening to the message. I wonder what would happen if the message presented as just "hey, it's not actually that polite, guys. No big deal or hard feelings. Just thought you should know"?

[–]OsoFeo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In other news, poor Africans are still dying, and civilians in the middle east are still getting blown up.

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These hyperbolic statements are doing nothing for women's rights. I ultimately think that street harassment can be a problem, especially when I'm stuck on the bus or at a bus stop and tell the person no, but they keep going. These people think by "sticking to their guns" and saying that none of this is okay, they're making a point. What they are doing is refusing to acknowledge the reality that some comments by strangers are not as bad as others and they are using blanket definitions so they can increase the quantity. Instead of saying that it doesn't take more than just a few really graphic scary statements to freak us out for months, they say that all of it is bad and a power play, etc. By doing this all credibility is lost.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Making a strawman isn't going to help your cause.

[–]Ninja0573 32 points33 points  (2 children)

I grew up in a time and place where NOT nodding or smiling, with a polite 'hello' or 'g'day' while walking past a stranger on the street felt rude and awkward.

I'm only 34. Suddenly we're being told it's harassment. What the fuck.

[–]JudgeRedPill 19 points20 points  (1 child)

"Something something male gaze."

I swear, these feminists have got girls completely paranoid about anything men do, ever, these days.

[–]2johnnight 15 points16 points  (0 children)

We need Emma Watson to make a speech at the UN about this.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Brazilian street mob beat a woman minding her own business to death that looked similar to a circulating facebook post of a woman who was an alleged witch that stole children. Men are increasingly being illegally arrested, beaten, sometimes killed, threatened to be killed by the police all across America. Thousands starve around the world every day for what ever reason.

Yet entitled pig-tails-when-it-suits-them 1st world feminists are marching to war because some bored guys standing on the sidewalk said hi to a woman.

You cannot and should not engage with hardcore feminists. Their brain is compromised, and I dare say they're not even human at this point. Anyone who kowtows to hardcore feminists in any way for any reason is a complete beta-omega.

[–]1ThumpNuts 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Wait til Hillary gets elected... you ain't seen nothing yet.

[–]CriticalThink 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Seriously. I want to laugh at people trying to make a big issue out of "street harassment", but then I realize that this is actually gaining traction in feminist circles and they're actually taking this shit seriously. Shit like this makes me wonder how the fuck grown adults who are that stupid make it through this life.

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This video was mentioned on the national news last night in Finland. I don't understand how it could even be relevant for us. Population density is 14 people/sq kilometer. Nobody ever speaks to strangers. There isn't even such thing as Cat calling in our culture and still women feel that this is something they need to worry about.

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There isn't even such thing as Cat calling in our culture

I wish the feminist leaders and SJWs would look for exceptions like this. They could then acknowledge that street harassment is specific to culture and also occurs in densely populated areas where women will pass a remarkably larger population on a daily basis and subsequently have higher chances of running into some weirdos.

[–]bitchdantkillmyvibe 8 points9 points  (3 children)

And it will continue to keep going further and further, and we should just let it. Let this insanity go all the way to its illogical conclusion, and allow society to see first hand how retarded the ramifications of such thinking will produce. Then we'll all start decrying it. Shit like this happens all the time in society, it always goes too far, and then just produces a reactionary response just as fanatical. So it goes and goes and goes.

[–]bookhockey24 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How many innocent men will be incarcerated or their lives otherwise destroyed before we reach that endpoint? And yet you're right, because I don't see this being fixed any other way.

[–]bitchdantkillmyvibe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All you can do is educate yourself and your brothers around you... Those who will listen anyway. Those who are ready to be unplugged. All you can do is make sure you don't end up another one of these victims.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look at Japan. If you're even accused of sexual assault, you're guilty. They've created gender assigned subway cars because if this false sense of an out of control rape culture.

[–]1neveragoodtime 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It absolutely is a human rights issue. I have the constitutional right to free speech in public. I can say anything I feel in public, even if it offends, upsets, or embarrasses some other person. I have the right to call a girl beautiful, ask her to smile on the street, or tell her nice ass, and she can do nothing about it. God Bless 'merica.

They're not going to gain any traction on this issue. Besides being clearly racist video against blacks, their culture, and their neighborhoods, and aimed at men in poverty, they would need to amend the US constitution. I don't have the right to say something that puts her in danger, threaten her physically, or stick my dick in her without her permission. Feminists think there's a thin line between paying a girl a compliment and sticking your dick in her mouth. And to some degree, they're right. But if some feminist was picked up on the street, seduced, and banged, that's not rape, that's regret.

[–]SeekingAlpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I saw a commenter in another sub refer to the woman in the video being in a "public, non-social space". I can't even...

[–]JudgeRedPill 57 points58 points  (11 children)

Never knew who he was before now, but I'm suddenly a fan. Glad to hear people are pushing back against this drivel.

[–]Brodin_Disciple 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think drivel is giving it too much credit.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

People are starting to rebel against it everywhere, now that it's reached a point of utter ridiculousness. It was much more subtle in the 90s, but now that we're in 2014 it's illogical, retarded true self has become exposed with garbage like this. Hopefully the feminist movement destroys itself which if present conditions are any indication, just might happen.

[–]Robdogx9001 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Finally a return to 80's machoism.

[–]small_L_Libertarian 1 point2 points  (7 children)

He was a correspondent on the Daily Show, and was just recently hired on SNL. Dude's a real funny guy for sure.

[–]JudgeRedPill 4 points5 points  (6 children)

SNL is normally a haven for feminist bullshit.

[–]Robdogx9001 12 points13 points  (3 children)

As is the Daily Show as of late.

[–]redbluepilling 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Particularly Jessica Williams' segments. I enjoy TDS but have to cringe as the feminist shit goes through unchallenged. Too bad Che isn't back on TDS.

[–]life_manager 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Did anyone see the Anita Sarkeesian piece on Colbert?

Fuck, I can't believe they had her on a typically well-informed show.

[–]redbluepilling 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah yeah that was a horrible softball panderfest. Just listen to the audience. Add to it the wonderwoman interview after that.

Everything they say sounds fine and good on the surface. That's the problem. But, "watch what they do not what they say."

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[–]JesusFuckILoveAnal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the perfect response to people who claim that society is getting more misogynist with time. It disproves her point and calls the pointmaker ignorant and a slut.

[–][deleted] 109 points110 points  (7 children)

Militant feminists often seek consensus by deletion: they delete you out of the picture until they have a consensus. So if Che is speaking his mind they'll flood the TV office with nasty letters until Che is no longer around, but they'll happily claim they're "open minded and tolerant."

[–]Position5hero 68 points69 points  (0 children)

They are open minded and tolerant.

Open minded to suggestions about how to get him off the air, and tolerant of going to extreme lengths to censor him

[–]TRP VanguardCyralea 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Open-minded and tolerant, so long as your ideas are ones selected from this pre-approved list.

[–]WoodFireEarthWater 22 points23 points  (2 children)

That's basically "political correctness" in a nutshell - the tool of the far left to try to control speech and even thought itself.

[–]RedPill115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's basically "political correctness" in a nutshell - the tool of the far left to try to control speech and even thought itself.

True. But remind me of the concept of heresy from the religious right again. The left is a lot more hypocritical about it though, claiming they're for "freedom of speech" then doing the opposite.

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[–]moralprolapse 22 points23 points  (3 children)

This story also reminds me of the tropes about how "I got the breast implants for me, not men! Pervert." Or, "just because I'm dressed this way...!"

What does that mean? You like carrying extra weight in your upper torso for no practical purpose, since it has nothing to do with how men view you? You wear a shirt 3 sizes too small because it's more comfortable?

So, you never want a cute, successful guy in a nice suit to approach you and compliment you or ask you out?

Attention from a handsome guy is flattering. From a guy you have no interest in, I guess it's harassment.

[–]Endorsed Contributorgekkozorz 14 points15 points  (2 children)

They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be able to present the goods so DT's can see something they like, but they also don't want to be judged as slutty.

So they dress slutty, then try to do Jedi mind tricks on us - "I'm not actually a slut, I'm doing this for me. These are not the boobs you're looking for."

[–]Senior Contributorcocaine_face 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also a way of maintaining an aura of strength or lack of desperation about them for other women.

Why, they couldn't be doing this for men! If they did, then that would mean there was something -wrong- with the !*****~~~REAL~~~*****! (whatever that means) them! And that can never be.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Stop crucifying people for mere words.

Controlling language as a means to control people - that's the whole point. That's at the heart of all the "critical theory" Frankfurt School feminist shit that runs Western universities and most media.

"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to." - Theodore Dalrymple

[–]Facednectar 20 points21 points  (1 child)

People sure like to bitch about things. I can't believe this video is getting so much attention...good on Michael Che for not buying into the bullshit. You walk around an urban city for 10 hours with people outside, you are going to be approached/talked to/"harassed" no matter what gender/race/ethnicity you are.

[–]trpiece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And chances are, if you don't get approached, you would wish you did.

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[–]curious97 33 points34 points  (3 children)

/pol/ says she's jewish

but then again they call everyone jewish

edit: her name is shoshana, /pol/ strikes again

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

/pol/ is always right. Haven't you learned?

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Of all sad words of tongue and pen

The saddest are these: "/pol/ was right again"

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[–]OsoFeo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can confirm, from the inside of various committees that set policy on this kind of thing. sigh...

[–]usul1628 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Obviously you haven't examined the grievance hierarchy recently, women>gays>blacks

[–]through_a_ways 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Women also have far more purchasing and political power than gays, who have are on average richer and more well educated than blacks.


[–]Opioidus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A fat near-wall woman talking about how not being approached by high quality males is harassment, why am I not surprised?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

White liberals don't see race,

Exactly, they won't acknowledge race, but are still having reactions to racial differences. But it's okay to talk about men, so they can say this is a "male" problem. It's disingenuous, makes males defensive, doesn't actually identify the cause, and therefore it's an emotional argument and completely lacks objective rationality. That's always a good way to get your 'opponent' to change their mind, right?

[–]brokor21 0 points0 points [recovered]

Since when is being greek fucking 'ethnic'? I am greek and most people here would call that girl a gypsy. Lesrn your geography dude. Maybe you meant lebanese or egyptian or smth.

[–]Kellermann -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is Greek even considered white? Off white at best!

[–]_Fuck_The_Steelers_ 27 points28 points  (24 children)

That NYC video is what made was stupid as fuck. She walked around for 10 hours to get to get those responses. If anyone walks around a big city they are going to get fucked with regardless of gender. There were like 2 responses i think that were genuinely creepy the other were just hi and stuff like that.

How the fuck is saying hi harassment?

[–]1TRPingBalls[S] 36 points37 points  (13 children)

Not to mention, like Scott Adams pointed out, getting two minutes total of people talking to you from 10 hours of filming isn't all that impressive.

[–]DidiDoThat1 37 points38 points  (10 children)

Not to mention they go out of the way to put in text that she received harassment from all "backgrounds" of men. Basically they showed two minutes of black guys talking to a girl walking through bad parts of the city but they didn't want to come off as racist. Watch the video again. They want to call this a male problem because they know that calling it what it really is will be met with hostility because SJW's won't let you attack POC. It's 2014, people should have the balls to come out and say that there is a culture in the black community where acting "hood" is important and gives you street cred. The makers of the video are cowards, I'm not on a racist witch hunt. The results are what they are based on the video, they just refuse to acknowledge it because calling all men creeps is ok, calling black men creeps is racist and wrong.

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[–]_Fuck_The_Steelers_ 19 points20 points  (2 children)

its not just black people though...its every ethic group blanketed in a single term PoC...how is THAT not considered racist? if you're not white your a PoC.

[–]mister_barfly75 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So if I get a tan I get to be a PoC for a couple of weeks and lose all my privilege? Damn.

[–]SeekingAlpha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just say Colored Person. If that causes them to lose their shit, you know you are dealing with a severely debilitated mind and can adapt yourself appropriately.

[–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Oh no you dih-unt! So true. So the video showed what happens in ghetto areas populated by poor black men. Her own god damn boyfriend picked her up this way on a train, but isn't a poor black man so she swooned. Lol

[–]dontaddmuch 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wow. She is fucking retarded to make that video if this is true.

[–]mos_basik 2 points3 points  (3 children)

A bit of googling doesn't turn up any information meeting the boyfriend; do you happen to still have a source link for that?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I think it was actually a commenter on reddit who was detested by the men in the video, but she went on to say her boyfriend met her on a train this way.

[–]Jimmy_Big_Nuts -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I saw that on one of the first threads about this - was it not the main woman? Shame that would have been so, so, juicy.

In any case, we all know the truth which is that all women will romanticise the guy they let fuck them who they perceived as being worthy.

[–]_Fuck_The_Steelers_ 10 points11 points  (1 child)

2 minutes out of 600, so she was "harassment free" for 598 minutes. Stupid as fuck and it's actually making traction, blows my mind.

[–]slangtooth 9 points10 points  (0 children)

99.66% Harassment Free. Comments point out that some of the 2 minutes were "hey", or something that should be considered friendly, or at worst, inquisitive, not harassment.

There may have been 1 or 2 actually creepy comments, and I think it is important to realize there are those individuals out there that do harass, but there needs to be a realization that there is a difference between these, and that, overall, the problem of harassment is much, much, much, much much much much smaller than it is being represented.

[–]Nespos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wonder how many motor vehicle collisions would occur multiple times over the course of walking for 10 hours in NYC. Or verbal/physical altercations. Or anything. I mean, it's a perfectly reasonable amount of time to walk. We should also take their word that there were hundreds of instances that weren't in the video, even though the whole point was to have video evidence.

[–]foldpak111 4 points5 points  (0 children)

According to everyone, as a white male, I'm apparently a god to society. I deal with drunk assholes trying their luck, gay guys flirting with me, and girl eye fuckin me. I get the same amount of attention she does, just different kind of attention. It's still unwanted, but that's the cost of living in society. Move to a tiny town if you want to be left alone.

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[–]insidescoop84 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's odd that the side that constantly calls for a "conversation" on these issues immediately tries to shut down anyone talking about it in a way they don't approve of.

This. People say they want dialogue but what they often really mean is "do as I say, think as I think, or you're the enemy."

[–]Muzzygooner 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Is there a way we can support men like him in times like this when they are attacked by Bluepills and feminists? Can we do anything as a community?

[–]zpatriarchy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

good question, i guess we can tweet at him?

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[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

If "street harassment" all suddenly stopped at once, these bitches would be so, so pissed off. They want and need this attention. Badly.

[–]through_a_ways 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This, this, this, so hard.

On the one hand, I think it's fucking retarded that feminists consider this an issue.

On the other hand, I love it when people shoot themselves in the foot.

Women want validation. You give validation without sex? You're a slut.

We need to start slut shaming each other.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (3 children)

What really irritates me is how selective it is. I've seen the videos and we all know damn well that if the guy saying it is high SMV then it's cute and offbeat but if it's a guy with low SMV its creepy and intimidating.

We know damn well this cunt would wet her panties if her favorite youtube celeb said "we got $1000 here!"

[–]1TRPingBalls[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I'd wager that at least one high SMV guy catcalled her and she had to edit it out to preserve her argument.

[–]bitchdantkillmyvibe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I doubt it.. She was ugly as fuck. She attracted men equal to her SMV and she don't like that! So... harassment. This is the heart of all this 'street harrassment bullshit'. Average looking women are angry at the attention they get from similarly average men.

It's all really just a coping mechanism for sub par attractive women who feel entitled to attention from men with high SMV when theirs is in fact quite low. You never see really attractive women complaining about harassment or jumping on any of this feminist bandwagon bullshit, because they are mostly receiving the attention from desirable men.

[–]back_in_towns 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm waiting for the clip where she just looks up at him and smiles...

[–]TekkomanKingz 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Soon comedians will be out of business, they are supposed to be able to joke about almost anything.

[–]brotherjustincrowe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Our media will be policed for "hate speech" to the point of being state-run. Everyone will have to go in lockstep with the feminist party line, with counter-revolutionary "sexist" speech and thought criminalized (as they're trying to push in Sweden). And all the while feminists will be playing the victims harder and harder. As Mencken said: "Fascism will come to America, in the guise of anti-Fascism."

Be aware, and stay active.

[–]trpiece 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Where the fuck do you even find such shitty articles... Great example of TRP but man oh man, but that article... so shit.

[–]1TRPingBalls[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Popped up on my facebook feed. It's hilariously bad arguing, especially with how vague it is in its attacks.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is how a lot of retarded feminist articles work now. They tell some skewed facts and then have tweets from random retards to back them up in between paragraphs.

[–]tylerwatt12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The comments are even worse..

[–]Chrispy3690 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Holly Kearl, founder of the nonprofit Stop Street Harassment, has described how promoting a culture of catcalling can lead to even more severe problems. "The acceptance of street harassment, the portrayal of it as a compliment or a joke, creates a culture where it is normal to disrespect someone or to comment on them or to touch them without their consent," she told Ebony last year. "That culture helps make rape okay and lets rapists get away with their crime."

I wanna see the study that shows ANY correlation between catcalling and rape.

[–]SOwED 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, the privilege of all those homeless black men. So entitled.

[–]Shadoscuro 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know context matters but what is the big deal with cat calling? Sure if a woman's in a dark alley and some guy starts yelling/following her, but that's more stalking territory anyways.

At least in my experience it's out at bars and a dude walking by whistles or pays a vulgar compliment and the girl scoffs or replies pig or some variation. But with all the recent talk you'd think women were about to lose voting rights or some shit.

[–]WarmApfelPi 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If men aren't "entitled" to talk to strange women, then my wife shouldn't be "entitled" to half my shit.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

shh...shh...>it's a human rights issue

You hear that? Not the massive class disparity in this country, an economy based on third world slavery, poor people getting substandard food and healthcare, ebola, STDs....

telling a woman "Good morning" is now more important.

Got it. Thanks, feminists.

[–]slfnflctd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is honestly one of the biggest critiques I have of a lot of 'movements', modern feminism included. Show me in a compelling, measurable way how much depth of suffering you are reducing in the world. Show me. Now, explain to me why that's more important than ending child slave labor in unsafe, disease-infested environments.

To a point, I recognize that the struggle for a truly better world encompasses many battlefronts, and that different people are equipped for different tasks (not all of which are as clearly impactful, at least in the short run), but a lot of this whitewashed do-gooderism is more of a pathetic failure to prioritize effectiveness over aesthetics than anything else. Due to the resentment this creates, it's almost worse than doing nothing at all sometimes.

[–]apackofwankers 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I've been living in a 3rd world tourist resort for the last 8 years. One feature of life here is that the locals never miss an opportunity to try to sell you something. You can't walk 10 paces without being offered pussy, cocaine, cigars, jewelry, t-shirts or some other crap. The worst are the beach vendors, who will happily interrupt your romantic moment, conversation, dinner or anything else, in order to pitch their wares. At first, I was polite, saying "no thank you". After a while, I would simply wave them away like flies. Eventually I would put my hand on my weapon and tell them to fuck off.

Individually, each offer is perfectly fine, but after 8 years of being treated like a walking wallet many times per day, I was beginning to lose it.

A lot of people advised me to just ignore them, but I find that ignoring people costs me energy. Its better to just be hostile than to repress and ignore.

There is no solution to the problem. The locals are desperately poor and what they do, works. Short of banning tourists from spending money on beach vendors and hustlers, the economics of the situation dictates the behavior.

So, this experience has helped me understand why women might get sick of men constantly pitching them.

That said, I have also learned from those vendors never to take no for an answer.

Its the nature of men to pitch women, and the nature of women to receive pitches. Short of ensuring every man has pussy all the time, the situation won't change.

[–]thisjibberjabber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've experienced that too.

I did find that after having been there a few days, getting down the street without getting bothered got a lot easier. It was a matter of walking purposefully and not making eye contact - not looking like the fresh off the plane low hanging fruit tourist. But I'm sure you figured that out also, and it doesn't help with being a fixed target hanging out on the beach.

One solution is to go to a resort that the local rich people go to. There tends to be a lot less annoying hawking going on.

[–]FiddyFo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I already don't like Huffington Post. But Huffington Post: Women? Ah, no thank you I don't feel like raging today.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

An article by the huff post.. Femnazi hub

[–]chadchadington 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton

Women are pursuing their ultimate sexual strategy--control of betas access to alphas. This already happens but until recently is has not been so overt.

If a woman doesn't like your advance she'll usually act annoyed. Attractive men tend to get rejected less and even pursued. If most "average" men are afraid to approach due to being labeled a misogynist (jailed in the future), the more attractive men will flourish. Control.

This already happens on a less overt level since nowadays it seems natural to pose men as threats and "bad". Look at villains in most subject matter--men.

[–]nrjk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the moment the article goes completely retarded...there's one in every article.

Street harassment is a human rights issue, according to activists fighting against it. Holly Kearl, founder of the nonprofit Stop Street Harassment, has described how promoting a culture of catcalling can lead to even more severe problems.

Art Programs in schools are a human rights issue to a musician and artist.

An unregulated oil company is a human right's issue to a environmentalist and an oil salesman.

A shortage of gerbil food is a human rights issue to a gerbil salesmen and a PETA member.

Either everything is a human right's issue or nothing is, but just because a cause has "activists" doesn't make their issue a human right's issue. Seriously is there some Bureau of Street Harassment at Feminism, Inc.? Or is the ole HuffPo not wanting to call them feminists?

"The acceptance of street harassment, the portrayal of it as a compliment or a joke, creates a culture where it is normal to disrespect someone or to comment on them or to touch them without their consent," she told Ebony last year. "That culture helps make rape okay and lets rapists get away with their crime."

Jesus. H. Christ. That's the most ridiculous statement. Any logic applied to it would get sucked into it's black hole of stupidity.

I thought the SJW mindset was that all cultures were completely equal and beautiful...A majority of the men in the video are either Black or Hispanic and are in a lower income area. Are the SJW criticizing them based on their race or socioeconomic level? No, it's solely on their gender...Aren't they being somewhat classist and elitist by judging POC in their neighborhood.

It would be a completely different video if she were in a small town somewhere where there is not a high concentration of guys who do this. Also, the size of a city means more people are just another face in the crowd which would perpetuate such behavior. But women nationwide will identify with it (as if they all live in big cities are 8-10's) because the few times they thought a guy was looking at them then "It's because it's, like, literally the same thing.

[–]KingKKKershaw 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Cat Calling" is such a complete "First World Problem" if I've ever seen one. There are parts of the world where women's genitals are being mutilated, and "feminists" are focused on...cat calling? You're using that manpower and time to cut down on guys who compliment you randomly on the street? Fuck out of here.

Every single woman who's "offended" by cat calling would be MORE offended if they were treated like an ugly girl or man for a day.

[–]ElKod 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The funniest thing about this and I cannot share that on facebook, is that those are all BP males.. Thought from a young age that if they always compliment the women they want, eventually one of them is gonna come and be like "Ok, you're not like the others". Also, it makes them look very macho to their friends "Look, I can talk to these girls the same way I do in the club and don't get punched"

I imagine that if a true redpiller actually sees a girl he likes walking on the street, he'd ask a question, make small talk and then tell her he'd love to see her again if she wants to give him her number or take his...... One woman at a time, respectfully

[–]Hank711 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It ultimately reveals that Che does not understand what is so problematic about street harassment: Men feeling entitled to direct their unsolicited thoughts at women — often but not limited to comments on their appearance or asking them to smile.

I literally lol'd at this. I want nothing more than for some fem-nazi to say that to me so I can reply: "Yeah, I wish women would stop feeling that way towards men."

I've been skeptical of TRP idea that feminism wants to oppress men. I thought they just wanted to destroy the natural tendencies of sex and gender. I guess I was wrong.

[–]1TRPingBalls[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feeling entitled to direct unsolicited thoughts at women!?!?! What is this, a country with the principle of free speech?

[–]the99percent1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How is this even a news article? Shameful display. America is fucked.

[–]_VicBoss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yay, more shit for women to blow out of proportion for no reason. Woooooooo

[–]small_L_Libertarian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Che has appeared on Fox New's show, Red Eye, which is the only program worth watching on that channel. It's well written, funny, and has a pre-wall 26 yr old legit HB10, Joanne Nosuchinsky, on the panel.

Also, the host, Greg Gutfeld, makes references to people being Alphas and Betas at times, so there's that.

[–]scamper_22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I watched the video after all the drama. This is what I noticed.

Most of the guys were just trying to chat her up. "Hey beautiful..." Things I would consider nothing but complementary and pretty not intrusive.

There were definitely a few that were a bit more annoying/creepy in terms following her.

That all said,it really is the neighborhood she is walking in. I live in a major city (Not New York) and don't see that much unless you're in the club district. What's funny is my wife is super 'anti-racist', so I point out that it's a heavy ghetto population with many 'black folks'. And I mention, if any of those guys were in a different neighborhood on their own, I've seen a lot of girls find that 'hey baby, hey beautiful' stuff very attractive. They like being talked to. She smiled and chuckled knowing it is true.

It just so happened this was in a low-class neighborhood so there was probably a lot more of that happening with a lot less class.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had an interesting conversation with my wife about this, the video popped up on the today show and she immediately started making comments about look what that woman had to put up with.

So I say, "so if you are walking the street like she was, and Brad Pitt was standing on the sidewalk as you walk by, and goes, "Hey Babe how are you", you probably wouldn't have considered it harassment, would you?" She wouldn't answer my question, gave me some kind of "well I'd have to think about that" vague answer. I then informed her that's because if a woman gets attention from a hot guy, it isn't harassment, is it? If it's from a guy she isn't attracted to, it's creepy. But not if it's from a hottie.

One of the few times I ventured into red pill territory talking with my wife.

[–]garlicextract 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can voice your support for this guy on Twitter @chethinks

[–]juelzkellz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This whole thing is pissing me off. I am straddling the anger and bargaining phase. I'm on the anger side right now. I wish we could give the feminists their own country so they can be happy and leave the rest of us alone.

[–]blue_27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd never heard of him before (I stopped watching SNL years ago), but I want to see more of this guy. He seems to know what the fuck is up.

The line that it's a "human rights issue" makes me fucking cringe. No, you stupid cow, it is not. Female genital mutilation is a human rights issue.

[–]TheRpPhilosopher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love his apology to the apology. Too much too long have SJW's rose up and called for the firing of people because they hurt their internet feelings with an original but opposing opinion

[–]Entrefut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There needs to be a street harassment video where the guys beg the shit out of the girl while she's walking down the street and she instantly jumps on their dick. The caption, "Respecting beauty is disrespectful, tell her what she really wants to hear."

That or all the cat calls, then some guy drives up in a nice car, does the exact same shit and then she jumps in the car and gives him road head.

[–]paynehouse 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm all for equality but it really goes to show how unequal men and women are when women can't even deal with a little problem like this without blowing it out of proportion.

[–]kor_revelator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh my God, the comments section is a disaster. I really can't stomach reading through so much bull.

[–]iwish4zombies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What everyone is forgetting is this chick had all black for the camera and a word spread across her ass which prompts "harassment." One guy says it. I agree the guy walking beside you for 4 minutes wasn't cool, but this aggression is what women love so- double-edged I guess.

[–]spartan1337 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sucks for famous guys that they can't voice their opinions because the pussies or easily offended assholes (both genders) try to burn them at the stake for not agreeing with them, fuck this gay earth.

[–]all_achieving 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hate words like "misguided", then I know their opinion is not worth anything. At least they make it easier for us to filter legitimate and thoughtful concerns with SWJ trolls

[–]b3anz129 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting... This guy just finished a quick stint with the Daily Show where a very similar catcalling short was produced.

[–]dancingwithcats 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's just it. They don't want a "conversation" about anything. They want to lecture and dictate the terms.

[–]sciencegod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the link:

Comedian Michael Che's job as a "Saturday Night Live" Weekend Update co-host is to poke fun at popular culture. But there isn't anything funny about street harassment.

Challenge accepted...

[–]Space_Ninja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Michael Che getting harrassed by only SJWs bullies. Quick, alert the media! I'm sure the BBC, CNN, MSNBC. Salon, HuffPo, and others will all come to the defense of a black male being harrassed online, right??

Can't wait to see all the "SJWs are over" articles from the media.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love it when people just don't give a fuck, call shit out, and brazen as fuck, they come out on top. Gotta admire boldness.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you haven't read the comments, they're pretty great. "Imagine you're going about your life peacefully and someone you don't know commands you to smile." Oh my god he wants me to be HAPPY. How DISGUSTING.

[–]baptized-in-flames 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It must be difficult to hold frame as a celebrity. Much respect for this man.

[–]theredpillager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man... next time take a screen shot. Clicked your archive link and unwittingly gave click support to huff post women. No me gusta. Otherwise pleased to read this. Going to give che a follow now.

[–]Teblefer -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Michael Che doesn't have a vagina