Style’s Attraction Amplifier

I occasionally like to give props to pickup artists when they have great ideas. There’s a reason Style — homely and short as he is — was nonetheless renowned as a successful ladies’ man. Here’s his idea for a great throwaway line that generates instant attraction or intrigue in a woman. (Scroll through the marketing BS to get to the video toward the end.)

Basically, you walk through a group of women (or a mixed group), make eye contact with the girl you like, and as you’re walking by her say “I’m taken”. I suppose then you can either wait for a reaction and linger to see if she bites, or you can continue walking past and meet up with her later after she’s had time to become curious about you.

Some haters will object, because that is the curse of their stunted little minds. “But if you sleep with her after you told her you’re taken, isn’t that lying? Anyhow, she’ll ignore you because she thinks you’re in a relationship.”

Get off this blog! Seduction is the masterful weaving of gossamer lies — manufactured drama purposefully designed to excite the female sensory system, in which both you and her are active and aware participants in the game. The logic of telling a girl you are already taken would no doubt escape those who refuse to, or can’t, face female sexual nature head on without head asploding, but the truth is that women are attracted to men other women love. Please go back and study the fundamentals. Start with female preselection. Educate yourself. A man in the company of women, or perceived to enjoy the company of women, is infinitely more attractive to other women than a man alone or with other men. The fact that such a man is “off-limits” is only a threadbare legalistic hurdle to a woman’s hamster. If she likes you, you can later spin “I’m taken” any way you want and she’ll buy it… because she wants to buy it.

The elegance of Style’s attraction amplifier is what is left unspoken. It assumes the sale, without requiring too much in the way of clunky verbiage. As the brazenly, irrationally confident man about town, you want to act as if every woman you meet is already sold on you. You come “pre-approved”. “I’m taken” insinuates that your target was interested in you and that it is understandable why she was so. It will follow like flowering labia follow tingles that she will thus become interested in you.





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  1. Or these suggestions. Just tell them to play with cats regarding how this goes.

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  2. I don’t know about this line. I’ve told women I’m taken, and then I get into arguments about whether or not she should give me her number. Then there was also times when I told girls that I’m taken and told them to fluff off and look somewhere else for their sexual debauchery and saw their attraction go through the roof. But, I even as they glanced at me across the bar, I really had no idea how to come back to them.

    “Hey, sorry, I just lied to you.”

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  3. Now that I have a gf, I’m getting hit on and major IOI’s from various women in my social circle who also know her, though aren’t friends with her.

    The strongest IOI I had was from a married woman who clearly has no attention from her husband.

    She approached me at a party and asked if I was having a beer. I laughed and said “It’s a grown up drink.”

    She laughed and said “I drink beer, I’m not a child”.

    I looked at her and said “oh….then you can buy the first round.”

    She was shocked but never moved on that.

    I could have said “let’s go….”

    But my dilemma is how do I convert this flirtiness into a romp while making it seem like it was her idea all along?

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  4. Hmm. Not gonna hate, but rather I’d ask: Isn’t the alpha supposed to be less direct and more subtle in things like that? The impression that I’ve gotten from your past posts is to insinuate that women are after you, whether it’s true or not, but by more indirect means. Is this an exception?

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  5. Does
    “I’m married.”
    work?

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  6. I think Style had a similar opener….go up to a woman and say “I’m gay. Otherwise I’d dig you.”

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  7. I have no doubts of this working. The last LTR I was in I got more pussy than I was getting single. Women do love a man that other women get wet over. Women also love competition and drama amongst themselves. Nothing gets a woman setter than knowing she is usurping another woman’s man; which works out wonderfully for the man as long as he isn’t a pussy!

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    • I have no doubts of this working. The last LTR I was in I got more pussy than I was getting single. Women do love a man that other women get wet over. Women also love competition and drama amongst themselves. Nothing gets a woman setter than knowing she is usurping another woman’s man; which works out wonderfully for the man as long as he isn’t a pussy!

      *wetter. Smart phone fail

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  8. So if you say “I’m taken”, you need a fake ring too? Or just tell it without a ring?

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    • Taken doesn’t imply married. Hell, my boss is married. Very pretty wife. He doesn’t wear a ring. Hasn’t in the 5 years that I’ve known him.

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  9. Traveller,

    You are over-thinking. A common guy issue. You just strut by slowly, make eye contact a little too long and just as she starts to break eye contact, you say in a deep relaxed voice, “I’m taken.” Keep going and doing whatever you were going to do and don’t look back. She will approach you soon. No props needs.

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  10. I find that direct eye contact, followed by a short shake of the head (as in, “nope”), works well too. Girls will approach to ask, “What did that mean?”.

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  11. Now that this post came up…

    Another thing that I have done (just this week) that I have yet to gauge the success on is to buy nail polish, women’s razors, or other small girl items and leave it scattered where another woman would most likely see it.

    So, nail polish on the dresser, a female razor in the bathroom, etc.

    Has anyone ever done this? I have yet to see if it works or not.

    Not good for an LTR, obviously, but for flings and budding relationships I don’t see why thid wouldn’t work.

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    • OMG LOL. Guys are funny…..

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    • I dunno about this. You can get away with keeping extra toothbrushes and MAN razors around, and I’ve even got a box of tampons from an old GF. But I keep that put away in a cabinet with the toilet paper, and if a girl asks about it, I just say it’s left over and that “(sigh)… maybe someday I’ll be lucky enough to have another GF who might need them one day.”

      Nail polish implies that she’s been at your place, recently, painting her nails. That’s not a quick teeth brushing on the morning after. Painting nails takes time and it suggests that you allow her to do that on your territory. If it’s still left on the counter, she’s been there recently and you’ve obviously been too lazy to put it away. Implied pre-selection works but you have to be subtle.

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    • Leave a pair of high heels laying at the door entrance to your pad. She WILL notice those and ask who’s. Just say “a friends” and leave it at that. She doesn’t need to know who’s, but it will make her horny for you.

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    • i think mystery mentioned leaving one high-heel just visible poking out from under the couch.

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    • All successful bachelors should have a “broad bin”, a place in your pad where girly things are stored. It’s a combination “lost and found” and supply depot for visiting females. Any difficult to reach drawer or cabinet will do, preferably near the floor so bending over will be required to access it.

      Girls always leave stuff at your place. There are many possible reasons, carelessness, marking “their” territory, creating an excuse to return, it does not matter. What matters is that you must have one.

      Just as buskers throw the first dollar in the tip jar you should “prime the pump” of the “broad bin”. My suggestions are, one unused disposable girly razor, one girly sock, one expensive bra or bikini. This is both practical and useful for game.

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    • just, have you tried having sex with the same girl a couple different times at your place yet

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    • A man’s toilet will collect toothbrushes.

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  12. Get off this blog! Seduction is the masterful weaving of gossamer lies

    Holy Caylee Christ:
    1,304,563 bimbos and 13,455,643 teen age boys
    just, like, wiktionaried gossamer

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  13. Yeah. The problem with these kinds of posts is that they make advanced game look like basic game. They conceal and confuse more than they illuminate.

    If you haven’t already done the hard work laying a predicate, all of this verbal prestidigitation is for naught. There is far too much faith in trickery and not enough emphasis on fundamentals, leading to massive confusion in newbies. Why didn’t this work for me! I did everything you said!

    First master the basics, then develop an intuition for savoir faire, then try out your improv. It’s jazz, baby. Even naturally gifted musicians are better off proceeding from a firm indoctrination in the scales.

    Going up to some bird and saying “I’m taken” just plain sounds weird. Unless you’re there. Unless you feel the vibe and read all of the unspoken signs. Unless your eyebrow is crooked like Neil Strauss’s. Or something else. The point being, the most important element of success is left out of the advisory.

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    • FUCK yea. you gotta sight your scope b4 u pull tha trigga dogg. set up a ‘good blind’. be ready to whip it out….MACE thayt is

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  14. I wouldn’t say “I’m taken” cause it sounds like a male version of “I have a boyfriend”.

    I’d say “don’t even think about it” with a smile. It’s less precise: I *might* have a girlfriend but she’ll have to find that out.

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  15. Style is on fire as usual…

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  16. Since Style wrote “The Game”, I’d listen to what he has to say.

    But an even simpler variation on this is to wear a wedding ring going out. You can get cheap plated ones for <100 dollars.

    I think the Chateau had a post on this very topic.

    Besides, you don't have any obligation to be honourable towards a woman who'd go with a married man. So no guilt.

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    • Before putting too much stock in what Strauss has to say, google Sinn Neil Strauss and check out his youtube videos that expose him for the liar and charlatan he is

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  17. Tmason, pretty much everyone has accidentally “tried” that at some point as some women have a tendency to leave stuff around on purpose as a sign to other women and it doesn’t do you any good if you bring a new girl into your apartment and she finds some other woman’s territorial markers…

    If a girl is coming over, you don’t need attraction tricks, you just need to not screw it up.

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  18. And while I wouldn’t be beta enough to shell out $157 to watch some DVDs of Style in action, I’d recommend to anyone that they read “The Game”, not so much for the tips, as for how it shows how a not terribly cool or impressive man could clean up with the dames

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  19. I must be living in the twilight zone or maybe I’m just an alien. but I do not find taken men more attractive than single guys. I want nothing to do with a man who is taken. I have no dsire to feel as though I can make his eyes glance towards me and away from his woman. I want to be the prize/number one and not the side piece.

    I get approached by married men more often than I like and I get offended not flattered. I actually feel bad for their wives. *shrug*

    I know a lot of women possibly get an ego boost on being with a guy who is already taken, I don’t get it.

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    • troll….

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    • a lot of girls just feel nervous around married guys if they were raised as Children of Divorce.

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      • Not all women are potential home-wreckers. There are a lot of women who will make great wives and mothers, because they respect themselves and behave honourably.

        But a man on a night out is probably not looking for a nice girl. And this “taken” trick is a good way to attract a bad girl.

        Firepower, women from broken homes: Chances are they’re a lot less likely to respect marital bonds. Just sayin’

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      • Hmm. Maybe that’s it. Yes my parents divorced when I was young, but moreso b/c of my mom’s actions and not my dad.

        I know A LOT of women get off on this idea they “took someone’s man” but I just never understood. I get mad & offended when a guy in a relationship tries to hook up with me. Maybe b/c I want to be the prize and number one.

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      • i could tell.
        at least your honest, you maybe just might could be one of the good ones

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      • Neecy is black and therefore deals with black men. THATS a whole other kettle of fish! Her mom was played by her dad,too. So naturally she would declaim against man-sharing;man sharing is the black womans burden,one she’d love to be rid of,once and for all. Combing thru boring beta white guys is not a concern of hers–its a little more serious for her! On more than one occasion,I bet,the thought,”Will I (literally)survive this date??” has gone thru her head. She doesnt want another womans man,but I bet her panties have been soaked by more than one playa!

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      • Yes i am Black. Yes a lot of low caliber BW man share. But there are many BW who are turned off by players. I have never been attracted to players either. I am not turned on by “swagg”, thugs, pimps, players and whatever else they call themselves these days.
        Yes I like boring Beta White guys who don’t realize how cute/attractive they are, who are smart, tall and thin with amazing masculine hands/eyes and long smooth white fingers & clean nails (ok that’s borderline fetishing but its what I like). I am not attracted to the average BM that most women Black, White and other would find attractive – many are shocked when they find I am not moved by them – including the BM. While everyone else is jocking the Black stud, I’m eyeing the tall semi-cute unsuspecting White guy. Believe me a lot more BW do like boring beta White guys than most can imagine. There is a certain type of BW out there who is often off most people’s radar and she likes the opposite of everything a BW is “supposed” to want or like. Of course they are not the loud ghetto types. Rather the reserved girl next door types.
        Oh and BTW, if you had read my post, you’d see that my parents divorced b/c of my MOTHERS actions not my fathers. Basically my dad is the ideal man that I would want for me. And while my dad could have always pulled Alpha status (tall very good looking Black male who looks like he could be a former basketball player) he is a A high beta, solid, loyal, good father, provider, smart, attractive and kind. PACKAGE AND SEND PLEASE!

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      • Be careful of the unsuspecting White guys, Neecy. Despite their liberal upbringing, and probably because of it, they’re mostly in severe denial of their xenophobic tendencies. They won’t mean to hurt you, but they will because, at least in the case of Anglos, Jews, and others who’ve adapted to high female selection contol, it’s in their blood.

        If you’re going to go there, stick to Eastern Europeans. Western Europeans who aren’t independent just don’t have the genes or the sacks for intercultural relationships. They’re oversensitive to difference, and may fetishize it, but are incapable of humanizing it. I’m sure there are exceptions, but as it’s often said here, it’s unwise to bank on exceptions.

        If you like nerdy guys, go for Black nerdy guys. If you are going for a White guy, you’re better off with the rougher sort who just happens to be very intelligent. He should have scars and/or tattoos of something morbid that is not vampire related and callouses on his knuckles. He doesn’t have to be a thug, but he should be visually recognizable as the wrong guy to tangle with.

        Even then, be careful. I wouldn’t advise it at all unless you encounter one of the rare exceptions with proof like a Black ex wife who he only left because she was crazy or something. Baby mamas and girlfriends don’t count in this.

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      • HEY NICOLE!! Thanks for chiming in! Funny you mentioned the liberal thing. ITA with your assessment on liberal White males. Thus, why I tend to be attracted to more conservative types as well as favor European WM over Western. I think Liberal Whites in general tend to think they are more progressive than they really are. Granted, some do have good intentions, but i honestly don’t see them as the cornerstone of tolerance when it comes to race. In fact, they can be quite intolerable when it comes to race and some issues.
        Also, I agree with your assessment on European males vs. Western White males. Almost any BW will tell you that European males generally have less racial baggage when it comes to accepting and seeing Black women as just WOMEN and not solely by our race, stereotypes etc. There are many American BW who are seeking White mates outside of USA in more tolerant places like the Nordic countries and other places in Europe.
        I do feel American BW interested in dating White men would fare better with European White males over their western counterparts. But for many BW that may be unrealistic b/c of our citizenship and the difficulty in gaining citizenship in other countries throughout Europe.
        I have no issues with nerdy BM except they are far and few in between. Actually, most of the BW here in USA that I know married to WM are married to the nerdy types – engineers to be exact. I belong to an IR forum where at least 5-7 of the BW married to WM are all married to engineers of some sort. Not sure what the correlation is – but I thought it was interesting. *shrugs* So I do believe there are nerdy white guys who will date and marry BW. And despite perceptions, there are many BW attracted to nerdy White guys……

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      • Neecy, there are no nerds on this blog. We are all big bad mofo’s.

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      • LOL. I dunno Stan. i’d say the nerds are what keeps the world interesting and moving forward. I mean they create all the luxuries & necessities in life that we enjoy and find convienet.
        I’m gonna say they’re the understated Big Bad mofo’s!

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      • Neecy, now you sound like Steve Sailer. You should check out his blog. Steve himself is an admitted nerd, as are many of his commenters. They talk a lot about how nerds are very important for the advancement of civilization, etc. They worry that society may someday collapse if there aren’t enough nerds to keep things running. And Steve even wrote a post titled “Triumph of the Nerds”. If you’re interested in nerditude (nerdity? nerdhood?) that’s the place to go.

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      • Neecy, seriously now: you claim you want a beta male, but he has talked many times of the difference between what women SAY they want and what they respond to. That doesn’t necessarily mean the woman is consciously lying. She may acutally believe, in her conscious mind, that she wants a solid, dependable beta. It make sense logically, and it is what society and her parents tell her she should want.

        But the logical part of the mind is not what controls sex. Her subconscious is bored by the beta, and excited by the bad boy. And since the subconscious is what controls the sex drive, she ignores the beta and goes for the playa.

        Perhaps you have been burned by bad boys and have vowed “Never again. From now on I will stick to Nice Guys”. But will you really? Time will tell.

        If you are not in a relationship, you are probably thinking how great it would be to have a nice guy who will love you forever. But once you have been in such a relationship for a while, you may get bored with your nice guy, and when a playa comes along you start to get the tingles…

        CH has written many excellent posts on these subjects. Check out the archives of this blog. Just start at the beginning and read forward. It is a great education.

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      • Tyrone,

        Thanks for the heads up. I will defintiley will drop by his site. I completely agree with his premise. Nerds IMO are the real alphas. They actually advance society and the world – i never understood why they were not the most sought after men. I loooove smart intellgent guys.

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    • I must be living in the twilight zone or maybe I’m just an alien.

      yes

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    • Also consider the fact that most women want to be with a man who has a lot of options.

      It’s not only based on the thrill of bedding someone “taken.”

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    • you are fat. your opinion doesn’t count.

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      • great neg, dood. a real pantydropper. these always work when you’re 13

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      • @ John,

        remain in a child’s place…..Hush when you see adults talking my dear…..:)

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      • Actually she’s not fat. It’s just that single hair between her eyebrows makes her look like Unicorn Girl.

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      • That is NOT nice Zorro! I demand an apology right now!

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      • Which part was not nice? The “not fat” part or Unicorn Girl?

        I always thought chicks got off on unicorns…kind of like My Little Ponies, but with big hard ramrods sticking out of their heads.

        Honestly! You need to work on your appreciation of negs.

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      • There is no reply button to your last response Zorro so I have to respond to myself.

        Anyway – NEG? Explain please

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      • Neg (n. & v.) Canadian. A subtle remark carefully made and calculated to cause a woman to question her SMP value. {This is from memory. You can get the official definition in “The Mystery Method” or on a PUA web site dedicated to pickup parlance [e.g., IOI, DHV, Negs, Kino Escalations, etc.]}

        I take it this is your first foray into the Seduction Community, and you have naively slipped into the deep end of the pool? Fret not. We genuinely enjoy good-natured chicks with rich complexions and clear skin.

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      • WOOT WOOT! I think i love you Zorro.

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      • Now I have to tend to my silicon wafer tools (I’m on the night shift here at IBM, and so I have to ration how much attention I give to you). This is not a ploy to make you insecure and wonder if I’m flirting with someone on the side–although that is effective–it’s just that I could get fired if I’m caught gaming women online while I’m on company time, and the economy bites.

        Ta for now.

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      • IBM. Silicone. I smell a nerd and feel a cosmic orgasm coming on…

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      • What you smell is not nerd but my cologne: Techno-Geek (with extra “pocket protector” formula). I don’t carry a smell other than my cologne, because I work in a clean room and we are all very hygenic here at IBM.

        By all means, please proceed with the cosmic orgasm while I unload my oxide LAM etch tools. I’m sure with all the noise the technicians are making while they perform a mini wet strip on the alu-metal tools, I won’t hear you squirt and scream.

        …which is a loss for me. Mocha-chick whimpering with tears in her eyes always reminds me of my misspent youth.

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      • LAMS. OXIDES.ETCH TOOLS.ALU METAL.KEYBOARDS.GEEK.CLEAN.TECHIES.WET STRIPS.POCKET PROTECTORS?

        I can’t take it…..YOU TEASE

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      • Teasing is part of the program.

        You really need to spend much more time reading the wit and wisdom of CH.

        And if you really are an unemployed man living in the Dakotas, there’s no way I’m going for an F-close. I have my standards.

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      • neecy i been real quiet this whole time. when we hittin up tha arcade 4 some ‘space invadas’ babygirl

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      • I only play MISS PAC MAN.

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    • Is that married men at your local weight-watchers support group that approach you?

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      • Actually, you shouldn’t be talking to me, rather focusing on how you can *TRY* to get laid – isn’t that why you are here? lol. Shut up and pay attention to your leader and don’t worry about me sweetheart – I can get laid and don’t need “game” to do it…..

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      • Yes. You have the option of merely spreading your legs faster than radiation. Here, we call that “female privilege.”

        Or did I get the gender wrong?

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      • 🙂 don’t be jealous Zorro!!!

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      • …of?

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      • A woman bragging about how often she gets laid is like a man bragging about hwo much porn he watches.

        A woman’s value goes DOWN with more partners.

        A man’s value goes UP with more partners.

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      • Ba-ZING!

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      • You obviously missed the point i was making to Zunder. Its ok I forgive you…..

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      • Would that point be that you’re not…um…BIG? Or that you have a penchant for using shaming language in lieu of a logical argument?

        You are a saucy flirt!

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    • gurl i saw ya post & i was into it. its rare to find a woman like you on blogs like this. were you for real about being an alien? let me take you back to the five-head-th dimension & ill rock that ufo all nite long girl

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    • Zorro, you do know that “Neecy” is a 43 year old, unemployed white male living in Nebraska….don’t you?

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      • APOLOGIZE NOW. I have been called a lot of things. But never a 43 year old WM living in… NEBRASKA? LOL

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  20. @Tmason I think a female razor and nail polish are a little bit overkill and there is no way I would let a women leave that shit at my place unless she is living with me.

    You have the right idea though. Try leaving an extra toothbrush(extra points if it’s a girly color) in your bathroom if you live alone. Also a bobby pin or those elastic hair tie things that girls use placed strategically on your night stand or in the bathroom are much more subtle and get the female hamster running without overplaying that card
    .

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    • But, if you’re dating a stripper, you’ll have to amp it up and leave an extra (or two) used condoms laying around.

      The Jacuzzi is a great locale.

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      • True. Had a girl come visit me for a week from Chicago(I live in FL). I came home from work and she said “hey I cleaned your room and under your bed; I found some used condoms”. I just sort of grunted and changed the subject, it was never discussed again. good stuff

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      • is sex really ‘all that’ good. ive been tryin to get some but it seems kinda bullshit imho

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    • well do u think she would ‘get’ a black dog collar or do i need to go neon pink

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  21. The whole point of saying “I’m taken” is to say it in a mock serious or playful tone, so that she suspects you are teasing her, but not quite sure. She’ll be curious either way.

    If she doesn’t reply within a second or two, don’t let it bother you, just keep on walking to where you were going. Don”t be surprised if she sidles up to you later on and says “Hey Mr Taken, how are you”

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  22. The ambiguity of “I’m taken” is part of why it would work well with many girls, especially the not so goody goody ones.

    It’s not saying I’m married, or even that I have a girlfriend. It might just mean he’s found or is with some other girl that night. Or she might even think it could just be a tease. She doesn’t know.

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  23. She’s gonna look at you confused, and say in her head “ummmmmm.. okay? that was weird, why’d he say that?”

    The reason she’d come over to you is if you already have massive DHV (celebrity), other women around you, life of the party, etc. I’ve played this game many times, peaking interest, and then moving on. Guess how many women take the initiative to go talk to a random stranger? Not a whole lot, nearly none.

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    • Agreed, I could see the girls where I hang out doing exactly that. I don’t know what it is but all that old school mystery/style school of pick up just seems really lame to me now.

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    • we could try it w/o the unblinking eye contact i guess

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  24. If a short guy passed me and told me that, I probably wouldn’t even hear or notice him, let alone be intrigued. Even if I heard that, I would politely tell him that he is too physically inferior to consider himself some kind of catch, and that it is rude to interrupt other people so you can gain attention. It just doesn’t work with short guys unless they are beautiful, no decent woman holds eye contact with them. Sorry.

    [Editor: I’m sure Style’s many past hottie conquests would beg to differ.]

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    • Now that’s cunty.

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    • Leila, game is not for you. It is for hot girls who want to play, kinda like one of Styles’s exes, Courtney Love’s hot guitarist.

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    • @Leila…””If a short guy passed me and told me that, I probably wouldn’t even hear or notice him, let alone be intrigued.””

      This is an interesting comment because it demonstrates the principles of why game works.

      On the surface, logically, this type of line: “I’m taken….” makes no sense.

      But the reality is, if it happened in reality, depending on the delivery, tone, credibility and confidence of that delivery, it could possibly defy logic and stimulate a reaction…”gina tingle”.

      David D’Angelo stresses “Attraction is not a choice”….

      The haters look at this post logically and yah…it makes no sense.

      But context is everything there.

      If it’s said by someone short, fat, and lacking in confidence…yes, Leila would be creeped out.

      But if this was delivered in a particular context conducive to meeting: bar, mixer, some place where women are going with the explicit or implicit goal of meeting a guy…then a line like this would trigger curiousity or a reaction of some kind.

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    • do u rly drop five minutes of exposition on every dude who tries to rock you. cuz lets draft a real short story gurl. im down tuesday-wednes.

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  25. It probably works well for Style since he already has social proof being a celebrity… he also gets mistaken for Moby fairly often even when the don’t recognize him for him.

    This line could easily work if a chick is liking your vibe early in the interaction… nice disqualifying statement that ramps up their desire to win you over.

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  26. Be tall, hot and say: “If you can make cum harder than my latest does, I’m available.”

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  27. Be tall, hot and say: “If you can make me cum harder than my latest does, I’m available.”

    (Dang typo.)

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  28. Old Glory,

    This stuff worked before he was a celebrity as such. By his own admission, he hadn’t got any in years.

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  29. weak

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  30. You are all timid watrels unwilling to confront the beast for what she is. Take this to bed and whack off to it nightly: “there is no greater turn on for a woman than to steal another girl’s man”

    women are like pawn shops in harlem, they deal only in “hot” merchandise… if it isn’t stolen it can’t be any good and because it is probably a fake.

    this raise the next question: “what lie can be made up to make the bitch think I am stolen goods?”

    My suggestion is to hire a hottie to act as your psycho “stalker” who chases after you. interrupts your dates, etc.. get creative people! Calls, etc… similar to a wing woman but more effective. If you have pre-built in stalkers, etc.. x’s who won’t stop chasing you.. this shit is priceless. I’ve had dual (real) stalkers hitting my poor GF mercilessly.. calls, showing up at the house (bonus points). If you can’t get ’em real, I recommend fake facebook accounts, etc.. get guerrila and make yourself stolen merchandise before she falls asleep on your dates.

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  31. “Pre-approved” men are attractive, that’s true. I don’t know why. They are just sexy. BUT … I would feel guilty to be a home-wrecker. I couldn’t do that. Never. I’m not lying. I know a flirty alpha who has a cute and kind girlfriend. When I met him I was deeply attracted to him. But when I found out how cute and kind his girlfriend is and how much she is in love with him it wasn’t so hard to forget about him. I used to fantasize about being with him … But I couldn’t get rid of an image of a crying cute girl after she finds out he’s been cheating on her. Thinking about this beautiful and kind girl killed all the motivation I had.

    AND … What kind of woman would sleep with you without finding out some more information about you, like whether you really have a girlfriend? A drunk woman maybe?

    Some other things …

    “But if you sleep with her after you told her you’re taken, isn’t that lying?”

    Yes it is 😛

    When she founds out (in a few days/weeks) that you made her sleep with you by lying to her (=trying to appear a pre-approved man while being a desperate loser), she will go to bathroom and vomit. She will maybe start to hate men. They are all liars, you know …

    “Seduction is the masterful weaving of gossamer lies — manufactured drama purposefully designed to excite the female sensory system, in which both you and her are active and aware participants in the game.”

    Both are aware participants? Really? When you fall in love with a cute girl, sitting in a dark restaurant having a dinner, are you aware that she’s had a nose job, face lift, liposuction, has fake eyelashes, breast implants, colored contact lenses and wears a wig? And are you aware that she is lying to you when she says she’s a 20 year old virgin while she’s actually a 30 year old slut?

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    • Maya,

      Your comment of “When she founds [sic] out that you made her sleep with you …” is wrong. Nobody would have made her do anything. She would have made the decision. So …. she can blame herself?

      I don’t think this strategy is honest, but if I’m looking to have sex, honesty is very rarely what I’m concerned with.

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      • I don’t know, I think that a guy who knows how to manipulate woman’s limbic system can actually ”make” her sleep with him. Also, I believe that a woman who repairs all her physical defects surgically, buys a natural-looking blond wig and light blue contact lenses can “make” a man fall in love with her.

        Is sex with a drunk/dumb girl really worth her tears and disgust when she finds out that she’s slept with a dishonest man? She was looking for love, but now she’s sad and feels used. She continues to have casual sex in hope she’ll finally find a man who will accept her for who she is and love her forever. But this never happens. No wonder she becomes a cynical, man-hating feminist.

        I agree with you that anyone who wasn’t careful enough can only blame herself if she has slept with a liar. Girls shouldn’t drink so much alcohol and have one-night-stands while drunk. Some of my friends also believe that sleeping with a guy makes him fall in love with you, because they fall in love with him while making love to him. Why nobody ever told us that men and women are different?! I also know guys who believe that girls are looking for sex without commitment. They appear to be really happy that today’s girls are so ‘liberated’. In our hearts, we are not. What would happen to a woman if she wanted to have sex all the time and with different partners and without a need to keep her partner around? She would contract diseases and be pregnant all the time. She would not have food for herself and her numerous children. They would all die of hunger and STD’s. The fathers of her children wouldn’t take care of her and bring her food. She would have to find the food for herself. The genes of these women are long extinct. I hate Cosmopolitan.

        Btw, thanks for the [sic] 🙂

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      • I don’t know, I think that a guy who knows how to manipulate woman’s limbic system can actually ”make” her sleep with him. Also, I believe that a woman who repairs all her physical defects surgically, buys a natural-looking blond wig and light blue contact lenses can “make” a man fall in love with her.

        Is sex with a drunk/dumb girl really worth her tears and disgust when she finds out that she’s slept with a dishonest man? She was looking for love, but now she’s sad and feels used. She continues to have casual sex in hope she’ll finally find a man who will accept her for who she is and love her forever. But this never happens. No wonder she becomes a cynical, man-hating feminist.

        I agree with you that anyone who wasn’t careful enough can only blame herself if she has slept with a liar. Girls shouldn’t drink so much alcohol and have one-night-stands while drunk. Some of my friends also believe that sleeping with a guy makes him fall in love with you, because they fall in love with him while making love to him. Why nobody ever told us that men and women are different?! I also know guys who believe that girls are looking for sex without commitment. They appear to be really happy that today’s girls are so ‘liberated’. In our hearts, we are not. What would happen to a woman if she wanted to have sex all the time and with different partners and without a need to keep her partner around? She would contract diseases and be pregnant all the time. She would not have food for herself and her numerous children. They would all die of hunger and STD’s. The fathers of her children wouldn’t take care of her and bring her food. She would have to find the food for herself. The genes of these women are long extinct. I hate Cosmopolitan.

        Btw, thanks for the [sic] 🙂

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      • up until the ‘dshonest’ part that was CRAZY awesome

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      • MYA,

        You are spot on. Women and casual sex usually benefits the male and can cause emotional (among other) issues for women. WHY? There is actual scientific evidence that says when a woman orgasms with a male she releases a chemical called OXYTOCIN (no not the pain killer oxycotin). That chemical connects her to her sexual male partner – AND…wait for it… she immediately connects this man as her partner. The chemical oxytocin is powerful and can cause these feelings to stick around for..wait for it again… TWO YEARS.

        Don’t believe me look it up. Also Pat Allen who is a relationship expert guru outlines this in one of her male/female dynamic relationship books. I believe every bit of it. Its just in a woman’s nature to connect with a man she is intimate with. If you are intimate with strangers all the time, a woman is just pushing herself further into a hole that will eventually cause her to hate and mistrust males.

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      • “Is sex with a drunk/dumb girl really worth her tears and disgust when she finds out that she’s slept with a dishonest man?”

        Why should I care? I won’t be around by that time.

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  32. Is Style still giving dating advice? That guy is famous as Jimi Hendrix mom. Fuck that guy. But I’m gonna try that line. So cocky.

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  33. People here argue about the silliest shit. Planting fake girl items? Trying to plan an entire conversation before it’s begun? That’s autistic shit

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    • Fake shoe under the couch, fake eyelashes, extra toothbrush, spanx underwear, hair ties, push-up bra…

      Men are just using misinformation like women have been for thousands of years.

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  34. “There is far too much faith in trickery and not enough emphasis on fundamentals, leading to massive confusion in newbies.”

    Agreed.

    Get the fundamentals right and leave the tricks to the tricksters.

    Tricks only really work when you have the fundamentals right to begin with, then you can use the tricks to have fun with.

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  35. on July 7, 2011 at 10:12 pm A hard reign held up by rage

    Admin when you deleted my first post with the broken up sentences I think you deleted all of the other replies with it. I dont know if you did that on purpose.

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  36. on July 7, 2011 at 10:13 pm A hard reign held up by rage

    Oh, my mistake, they are still there. Nevermind.

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  37. on July 7, 2011 at 10:29 pm wannabe_but_not_there_yet

    So, way OT, but could you guys help out here?

    The situation (at present):

    Was at the local pub two nights ago with a friend (girl). She and I are affectionate but she is taken; it really IS complicated. At any rate, I end up stealing a seat to sit next to the friend. Meanwhile, the cute girl who was sitting there returns, but does not ask for her seat back.

    I end up talking to cute girl (CG) a number of times throughout the night -she stayed glued to the spot 5 feet away and I passed by a number of times -but continue to return to the good friend (GF). CG approaches me at one point and gives me her phone number without prompting. Nice. She ends up pulling away to talk with a friend later. A little while later, I interrupt this to dance (very closely) with her to a slow song. Lots of eye and body contact coupled with light conversation.

    She ends up leaving early because she has class in the morning.

    The only contact since then has been via text.

    THE NEXT DAY:

    CG: Ugh. Being class sleep deprived sucks. Lol! (9:08 a.m.)

    ME: Take a nap for me, will ya? Stuck at the desk and the mid-afternoon tireds have kicked in with a vengeance. (2:29 p.m.)

    CG: Lmao. I’ll see what I can do.

    TODAY:

    ME: Hey, how’s it going? (2:01 p.m.)

    CG: Going okay. Getting ready for work. You? (2:41 p.m.)

    ME: Just having fun [doing my job]. You wanna go out some time? (2:51 p.m.)

    CG: Uh. As friends we can (3:05 p.m.)

    ME: ? (3:12 p.m.)

    CG: You do know I have a boyfriend right? (4:01 p.m.)

    ME: I don’t care (5:06 p.m.)

    CG: Lol. That’s where the as friends came from. (5:12 p.m.)

    ME: I’m free Saturday or Sunday p.m. (5:41 p.m.)

    CG: I work. It’s mandatory. Tonight till close. Tomorrow and Saturday four to close and Sunday ten am to close. (5:42 p.m.)

    ***

    So, what to do here? I considered texting back “gay” and deleting her number, but I’m trying to learn a) where I went wrong here and b) is this salvageable. It’s not that I’m overly emotionally invested here -hey, I just met her- but it’s reflecting on experiences like these that helps you to become more attractive to the opposite sex. Or, at least, so saith Roosh.

    Thanks for any help guys.

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    • U did zero flirting. U inspired zero lust.

      “you wanna go out sometime?”

      Probably the worst way to ask for that. U jumped into it without showing why she gave u her number in the first place.

      U ne’ver actually talked TO her. U made a few comments that u threw out in the wind and u hoped she would find em funny or something.

      Up your game by actually challenging her. Ask her questions. Call her out for her shenanigans of giving guys at bars her number when she has a “bf”

      “bf huh. Like the make believe bf kind?”

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      • on July 9, 2011 at 2:55 pm wannabe_but_not_there_yet

        Brutal. Thank you.

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      • on July 9, 2011 at 3:04 pm wannabe_but_not_there_yet

        FYI, found her on FB and the boyfriend is real.

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      • @wannabe…I have done this so I’ll give my point of view of how to amp this up. I’m having similar ongoing text thing with girl who clearly knows I’m with someone. The texting is all about who’s more clever, witty, etc. When I throw some zinger, she replies with a better one. This is the concept here of creating sexual tension about wondering what the other person is going to say….here’s how you could improve

        ME: Hey, how’s it going? (2:01 p.m.) Better: Hey….

        CG: Going okay. Getting ready for work. You? (2:41 p.m.)

        ME: Just having fun [doing my job]. You wanna go out some time? (2:51 p.m.) better: Amp this up…say something crazy… “just saw an octopus eat a shark on YouTube,….” her reaction will determine your next move..

        CG: huh? really?

        ME: Yah, hungry now…let’s go for sushi….Tuesday…..

        CG: if she’s interested she’ll say yes….

        CG: Uh. As friends we can (3:05 p.m.)

        ME: I wouldn’t have replied to this.

        She would most likely have wondered what was going on, was it something she said….etc etc.

        if she didn’t….next her.

        In my case….this on-going text-flirting is pure catnip.

        The girl told me where she was going to be Saturday night. I didn’t reply until Sunday and then told her where i was….

        Since you’ve got the pre-selection thing going, you can work it with CG.

        You wanna go out sometime….sounds like something a 12 year old would say… no drama, authority….it’s weak.

        The “let’s xxxxx” and shorter texts are more intriguing. then if she balks or flakes you don’t look so try-hard.

        We’ve all written and had exchanges like this. Read through “trial texting” on this blog…..helped me.

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    • You: “Wanna go out sometime?”
      Her: “Uh. As friends we can.

      –> You ASKED her to come out with you, like you wanted her permission. That one move killed any attraction she had for ya. And she repsonded in kind by saying she has a boyfriend, and you’ve been banned instantly to the ‘friend zone’. I bet she doesn’t have a boyfriend, she just made that excuse up since your text game was bland, only to fail with the question line.

      “We should get drinks later” –> Better STATEMENT and not a question.

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      • on July 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm wannabe_but_not_there_yet

        Also brutal, but more helpful in terms of establishing the frame of mind necessary. Thank you.

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  38. Folks,

    It’s not what you say, it’s how you say it.

    But if you can deliver a line like “I’m taken” to a bombshell with style, then you’ve got all the game you need.

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  39. on July 7, 2011 at 11:04 pm A hard reign held up by rage

    Its me, the former alpha, now beta. I walked into a mens clothes shop the other day which had 2 cute girls in it. I was on my work break. They were much more flirty than average street girls or even shop girls. I cant remember what was said first but one of them said “so where do you work?” I said “why?” she said “because Im gonna stalk you! lol!” I said “Get in LINE!” and she laughed. Then I caught my reflection in one of the dressing room mirrors. Pale. Dumb hair. Glasses. Incongruent nervous/slightly smiling looking face. I thought it was hilarious. Yet they bought into it. They believed my bullshit. I talked for them a bit more, did more cocky funny, got their names and then went back to work. Got them to guess where I worked etc. Was fun.

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  40. on July 7, 2011 at 11:08 pm A hard reign held up by rage

    I want to see a 300lb pale, nervous white guy with glasses who has just finished an 8 hour marathon raid in WoW brazenly walk through a group of 8’s in a bar and say “Lol you wish girl. I’m taken” and then strut off with an incongrount face and maximum swagger to another group of people in the bar to open a different set.

    I’d imagine the girls would first laugh out loud, and then gaze over at this mysterious beast, start to fidget with their feet, bite their lips, and twirl their hair nervously. Whats with this monster? He must be swimming in pussy.

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  41. You too can be an aspiring club promoter that trashy single mothers (like Casey Anthony) might off their annoying kids to be with… check out the Douchebag Career College (seen before but, yes, the dude she was seeing at the time… really).

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  42. Here to shed some light to you lame mofos on this site, because some of you dudes just don’t get this seduction lifestyle. Like what these dudes King A and Cat Patrol were stating to you some of you retards,it’s about the vibe you give a woman and it has to be playful(women enjoy creativity and imagination,which in addition to confidence is the essence of a real man). Playing women or interacting with women is like playin’ an instrument or like jazz, some times you have to improv(like the analogy King A gave). I’ve been on this site for a little over 2 months,approaching 3 and I’ve read just about every article and nearly all the comments left by the readers. Alot you fuck boys in Canada are pathetic, victim mentality-because-you’ve been hurt by women-because you-were-too stupid-to understand male and female dynamics. I also here alot of racist comments on this site especially from you Geramn’s, and other Euro-trash, and beta ass Canadian’s. You chumps remind me of some hatin’ ass Aussies,because their women were not only “choosing” quality men with some money to spend,but most importantly men who understood how to interact with the opposite sex and make females “feel” comfortable being around incredible men. I found this site by reading some social/econmic/metaphysical articles on savethemales.ca by Henry Makow,the title was “Men learn Game”. Dr. Henry Makow sound’s like a pussy at times moaning about male-female dynamics, and now I see why. You fuckers over in Canada don’t know shit about “game” or what it truly means to be an alpha or leader. I’ve found CH and other authors of this site to be prolific/insightful/humerous(even if at times it appears that some writers endorse, or sympathize with right wing idealogy). All in all, the articles here are on point in their observations and commentaries of man’s quest for the HolyGrail of poon, and the insatible femcunt’s appetite for hypergamous, emotionally stunted and socially maladjusted men. To my real players and men in Canada, and across the World, my comments about lame fucks from your respective countries shouldn’t offend you. There’s simps in every level of society. Also fuck any and all spelling and grammatical errors if you can’t comprehend the thoughts conveyed to you,then keep masturbating/feeling helpless because you don’t know how to pull women that you wish you could be with. P.S. game isn’t pick up lines and routines,it’s a frame of mind that you are the prize, and you can control, or alter certain elements in your life,and effect the lives of others. Game is related to other, more pertient aspects of a man’s life besides that little damp whole you fuck boys chase after.

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  43. did anyone already informed Neecy about the general rule when it comes to women’s opinion on what they say they find attractive?

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    • Are Women not allowed on this blog? Honestly, I’m home, sick these past couple days and bored. So i decided to make some posts here to entertain myself.

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      • Women ARE allowed on this blog. Sorry you’re sick. Now stop entertaining yourself (that’s a sin unless I get to watch). Entertain US!

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      • I don’t have the energy Z. I’m sorry…..

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      • “Are Women not allowed on this blog?”

        where did that come from!?

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      • Well I figured since you said women’s opinions didn’t matter that it was probably pointless for us to even make a post? Don’t mind me, could be the medication. LOL

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      • You’re on medication? Oh, God! Chicks whose kisses taste like Robitussin-DM are my Achilles Heel!

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      • Robotussin is yummy huh?

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      • Being allowed on the blog is a different question from having your opinion matter

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      • Welcome to the greatest site on the net. Cheers

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      • Thanks for the warm welcome – Alpha Cat. Some of your brethern can take a cue from you on this. I’ll try and stick around, I’m having fun:)

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      • Wantin a real male cock so bad u come to an Internet site in hopes that some guy will give u attention?

        Yes, u r fat. Yes, u r old. Yes, u aren’t funny or charming. But I do enjoy watching u try to prove yourself to me

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      • WEEEEE!!!

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  44. You would enjoy this shit:

    http://www.latimes.com/health/la-he-obesity-report-20110708,0,3732059.story

    Also, why is there an increase in the number of fat female trolls here?

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  45. on July 8, 2011 at 4:50 am Fidel Ribbentrop

    Just saying “I’m taken” in passing isn’t a lie. It depends what you say after. Consider:

    Dumb Girl: “What do you do for a living?”
    PUA: “I’m an ass model.”
    Dumb Girl: “Wow! What’s that like?”
    PUA: “I’m represented by an agency called Image Models. They find, say, advertisers who are doing a campaign they think I’d be right for. If the advertiser thinks I’m a good fit…”

    Versus:

    Dumb Girl: “What do you do for a living?”
    PUA: “I’m an ass model.”
    Dumb Girl: “Wow! What’s that like?”
    PUA: “I don’t want to tell you. You look too excited already. Hey, think of a number between 1 and 4…”

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  46. Great post … this blog in a goldmine – thank you.

    Off topic:

    I’m embarrassed to confess this disaster, even with internet anonymity … I’m thirty-two years old, and due to my own irresponsibility, I’ve placed myself back in my parents’ home, a living situation I abandoned at twenty-one – I’ll be in this situation ’till early next year. So far, its been five-months.

    In those five-months, I’ve been plundering two pussies, regularly: one twenty-four year old (6), and one twenty-five year old (7 or 8), both in my parents’ home as well as their parents’ homes.

    My goal was to slay vagina, under mommy and daddy’s castle, to squelch the sting of embarrassment caused by my current circumstance.

    Mission accomplished.

    Recently, though, I’ve been farming new, higher value, twat, and cultivated fresh, yet to be harvested, labia. These are careerist chicks with presumably fibrous husks, and I think I might disqualify myself when they discover that I am actually an educated hobo residing on ma and pa’s farmland, the psychological tillage from which they were reaped.

    Keeping these women away from my living situation is not an option.

    The silver lining, and the rationalization I’ve employed discussing my living situation, when I’m not deceiving, is that I will be attending graduate film school at an Ivy(I deferred admission to the 2012-13 school year due to the aforementioned irresponsibility).

    Question: Should I continue to use the grad school rationalization, or not? If no, why?

    Thank you.

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    • daze,

      yes, use whatever rationalization you please, but do read this again:

      “In those five-months, I’ve been plundering two pussies, regularly: one twenty-four year old (6), and one twenty-five year old (7 or 8), both in my parents’ home as well as their parents’ homes.”

      “Recently, though, I’ve been farming new, higher value, twat, and cultivated fresh, yet to be harvested, labia. These are careerist chicks with presumably fibrous husks, and I think I might disqualify myself when they discover that I am actually an educated hobo residing on ma and pa’s farmland, the psychological tillage from which they were reaped.”

      You really think the world works this way?

      “when I’m not deceiving”

      Cool.

      Thirty-two, right?

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    • Daze, your first mistake is considering careerist chix to be “higher value”. They are not. See CH’s post on careerist women.

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  47. Neecy – you are not hot. Therefore your opinion is irrelevant to the topic at hand (you are entitled to your opinion, but it is just not relevant). The “I’m taken” line works on hot chicks, who are the ones guys are going for, but not ugly chicks because ugly chicks have morals. At the end of the day a man will choose a hot chick with a bad personality over an ugly chick with a great personality.

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    • Excuse me SON? I am hot. Do you know what my temp has been for the last two days? Over 102 degrees!

      Also, if my opinion *really* didn’t matter to you, you wouldn’t have bothered to let me know it didn’t.

      I won’t wait for your response b/c of course “my opinion doesn’t matter”….

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  48. Do you honestly think this would work? It’s so ham-fisted and contrived that only the dimmest of the dim wouldn’t see through it right away. But then again, I guess that’s the point.

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  49. Somewhat off topic…Can you open with a Neg?

    I was at a craft beer bar last. 50+ beers on tap. Beer tasting going on in the back with 30+ people making a lot of noise. I’m near the front on seated at the corner of the bar. Two sub-25 year-olds walk in (HB8+ and HB7). They choose the seats one away from mine at the bar (there were others available). They order Merlot. The HB7 is yammering on her cell. I look at the HB8+ and say with mild condescension, “50+ beers on tap and you two order Merlot.” She looks at me disdainfully, says nothing, and turns her back.

    Fail?

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    • Only if you were actually trying to pick them up. Your line wasn’t a neg – it was an insult. You should have opened HB8+ with a line that plays off the fact that her friend is on the phone and HB8+ has no one to talk to. (e.g., “Couldn’t help but notice that you’re not having a charming conversation. Name is ____ [extends hand] What’s yours?”). HB8+’s friend will do one of two things: (1) immediately get off the phone to save her friend, at which point you should gracefully withdraw sporting a smile on your face to both (so you can try and engage again later after they’ve both been drinking a bit, or (2) keep talking on the phone and give HB8+ a quick glance of approval to continue talking with you.

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      • On looks alone I would have happily fucked the 8+, but truth be told I was kind of appalled that they were drinking wine (and merlot??? ugh). I did say it with a smirk. I guess I should have just said “Hi” and introduced myself (your opener seems awkward/formal for me) and saved the mocking for a few minutes further into the conversation.

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      • It’s only awkward if you deliver it wrong. You were in the wrong frame of mind to approach since by your own admission you were appalled that they were drinking wine (Merlot).

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      • I’m open to all suggestions that will put me in the right frame of mine.

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      • minD…

        —I hate touchscreen typing

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      • Jack, don’t worry about it. I don’t think that was an insult, it was a tease opener and she had her ‘bitch shield’ up, inspired by her friend ignoring her.

        I would have got her attention back and extend my hand to take a sip of her wine.

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      • I hear you, Phoenix, but don’t you think that would be pretty rude reaching to taste her drink? That’s almost a nuclear option.

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  50. the cool thing about this whole project is that the content doesnt even matter. his mindset is about hustlin down to every SEMANTIC UNIT son

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  51. —add “night” after “last”

    and delete the “on” after “front”

    jeez…I need an editor.

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  52. maya,

    Is sex with a drunk/dumb girl really worth her tears and disgust when she finds out that she’s slept with a dishonest man? She was looking for love, but now she’s sad and feels used. She continues to have casual sex in hope she’ll finally find a man who will accept her for who she is and love her forever. But this never happens. No wonder she becomes a cynical, man-hating feminist.

    you’ve got that a bit wrong. feminism is what has enabled women to ride the cock carousel freely with no repercussions. except that women realize much later that there are in fact repercussions, usually much too late.

    feminism is the greatest long con in human history.

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    • It’s not a “long con” as long as it’s adherents also know about “The Wall”. There are plenty of feminists who know exactly where The Wall is and time things accordingly. This is why you see so many of them having a serious boyfriend by 25 and married by 28. The know the wall is 29-30, and also know that it will take at least 3 years to date a guy, get engaged and drag him to the altar. So they work backwards from The Wall. The carousel riding will increase exponentially the longer it takes to land a guy, since sex is the easiest “bait” by which women can get a men interested in them.

      Feminism isn’t anti-sex. To the contrary, Feminism is anti-being-used-for-sex. If a Feminist chooses to use sex to gain a guy’s long-term interest, then that’s perfectly acceptable. To do so, she doles it out sparingly to keep him on the hook. Women who claim to be Feminists, yet sleep around with dozens of guys aren’t Feminists – they’re sluts.

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    • I agree. Feminism is bad for the male/female dynamics in relationships & sex.. There is biological and scientific evidence that explains why sex for women is often interpreted different from males. Feminism did women a disservice in this area by pointing out that “we can do whatever men do” – especially in matters of sex and romance.

      While the intentions may have been good, they backfired in this particular arena b/c you can’t adjust biology. You can adjust laws and things to give women equal rights for jobs etc., but not in matters of sex when it comes to the differences between males and females. A lot of women won’t accpet this and that is where the inbalnce between male/female dynamics comes in today.

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      • Wow, well put.

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      • There has always been an imbalance between male and female dynamics. It’s just that in the past, women recognized where this imbalance existed – on both sides. Feminism teaches women that they can “have it all”; in other words, they can do everything a woman can do AND everything a man can do. This is simply not true. While some women can do things men can do, most women simply can’t. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging your weaknesses, as long as you recognize that you also have certain strengths. Competition between men and women is not healthy. Biology and evolution dictate that men and women must work together for the human species to survive.

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      • (I’m going to break this post up b/c its long)
        Part 1
        Jay I agree. And I have only recently in the last 3 years or so finally understood this. I knew something was wrong before that, but often times I felt ungrateful /guilty as an American woman if I expressed or felt that not all things FEMINIST are good for women. Like I said biology is biology and frankly men and women are different in so many ways. I am grateful for American feminism more so in the areas of equality for women in terms of jobs and ability to be somewhat independent. But there is a fine line a woman has to draw with independence and desire for male companionship b/c men by nature want to feel needed. Women are not taught or told this anymore. This is where a lot of women struggle with their independence and desire for male companionship and how to balance her independence and strength to also allow her male companion to feel needed and significant.

        I consider myself a strong independent woman, but also on the other side in relationships I have no issues submitting to a male who has earned my trust and proven to have my best interests. Some males believe a woman’s submission to him is a right – but its not. It’s a privilege only extended to men who prove themselves worthy of her trust and are credible enough to handle female submission in the proper manner . I believe too many women today broadcast their independence in the wrong way. A lot of women today squirm at the word “submissive” b/c they see it as solely allowing a man to control you. This is what feminism says. But being a traditional woman I also understand in any relationship one has to be the dominant while the other isn’t. Now for each individual relationship that could vary. Some men prefer to be the subordinate while their wives/g/f’s are the more dominant. Whatever works for each couple I guess.

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      • Part 2

        But with sex I no longer apologize for my traditional beliefs and disagreement with modern day feminism. I believe it has robbed women of our NATURAL true femininity and feeling good about being a woman and wanting to submit to her feminine ideals. I know plenty of women who get mocked for being traditional and feminine by other women who make them feel like they are giving up something in relation to male control over them. With women, its tough b/c we have to always consciously balance the scales. In a patriarchal world women do have to protect themselves and look out for her best interests WHILE also understanding that we do need men and have to balance our needs with theirs (of course this also applies to men as well).
        I am definitely YIN/YANGIST to the core when it comes to how I see successful male/female intimacy and connections.

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    • itsme,

      that’s an interesting question. I can only speak for my generation. Woman’s magazines (aging female journalists who are horny due to their ticking biological clocks?), TV dramas, school (!), psychologists, men (?), … were almost forcing us to be ‘liberated’, ‘explore our sexuality’ and ‘have fun’, so in part I blame all these, too. One part of the responsibility is of course on our side, although I don’t think that any woman really wants to ‘ride the cock carousel’, mainly we just want to have a high-value man and some girls believe they can make him fall in love with them by having a one-night-stand with him. How stupid. But I can imagine girls believing this, because we’ve always been told that there’s no important difference between a man and a woman.
      What I wanted to say is that I agree with you that it’s feminism’s (media!) fault that some women think the way they do, but I believe that feminism becomes more and more attractive to a girl who was just looking for love but instead her heart was broken many times. Don’t you agree? Try to imagine how is it to be a girl who had sex with many man but none of them wanted a relationship with her. Wouldn’t you start to think that men are useless liars and become a feminist?

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      • Sorry, but I don’t blame feminism for the way women think. I blame women for the way they think. Feminism is just a byproduct of such thoughts, bolstered by beta males who think agreeing with such a philosophy will get them laid.

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      • Hi Maya,

        I’m the same on that responded to you above.

        The single greatest problem with Feminism is the idea that men and women are exactly the same. It’s what causes women to believe that “Since I fall for any man I’m sleeping with, the man I’m sleeping with will fall for me!”. Yet, that’s not how it works. Men can easily (for me, extremely easily) separate the emotional and physical sides of anything. We can compartmentalize much better than women. So, we can sleep with, and juggle, multiple women without feeling anything more than satisfaction.

        Feminism might have been good for the legal rights part. But it is a perversion of nature for the biological. Most women don’t figure that out until much to late.

        I’m really of two opinions on the topic of sympathy for women that get hurt by this. On the one hand, the argument can be made that they’ve been tricked into it. So, I do think some sympathy might be deserved. However, if they had done something I like to call “Sit down, shut the fuck up and think for a minute”, they’d have realized the trap they’d been led into and not done it. If they claim to be identical to men, then they should be able to take responsibility for their own actions, same as men are expected to. They should start to hate Feminism for selling them a lie, not men for making use of it.

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      • “On the one hand, the argument can be made that they’ve been tricked into it.”

        Could be. I think women often have this crowd mentality. At least I am like that. And I’ve noticed that many other girls are like me as well. We want to be “normal”, we want to be perfect. Men are more individualistic, they want to follow their convictions, be the best, are not afraid to stand up for themselves. I’m not saying that women are victims, not at all, I just want to say that I think we’re not very competitive by nature and we want to have harmonic relationships with everyone around and are more inclined to avoid conflicts than men are. So what I’m saying is that even though I always felt that there’s something wrong with liberal beliefs about sexuality I never was quite brave enough to say it. I was afraid to tell my friends/schoolmates that I feel that casual sex is a crazy thing to do, I never did. We were always taught that we should feel free to express ourselves sexually. If I was as conservative as I am now I would be already happily married, I’m sure. It’s crazy how even psychologist are so liberal today that it’s impossible for a woman with problems in love life to find any useful help. My psychologist was telling me that one-night-stands are completely normal developmental stage! Sure, if you want to develop into catlady/feminist/emotional wreck/chain-smoker. I said to her that I think it’s pathological and she almost started a lecture about how it is okay to have sex, to have fun, how sex is not dirty blah blah blah. Isn’t that crazy?

        “Most women don’t figure that out until much to late.”

        Yes. Me included. I started to talk about this with girls around me and they all got extremely angry and annoyed, but after several weeks one told me that she agrees with me and I was really happy. I’m just really very sad that only my biological clock forced me to start to think about that … Why do we only see what we had when we’re already loosing it …

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  53. Neecy fuck off you’re hurting my autism

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  54. Passing by and saying “I’m single” would have a negative effect. I can imagine for some people in some contexts “I’m taken” could spark interest, but I can’t imagine me being that person being in that context.

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  55. Hey if it works for you cool. I’ve always had game, before I knew what game was. I stumbled on this site and am glad to see there are many bros out there who think like I do. For most of my life I’ve been a fat fuck but that has never hindered me from getting good looking pussy. But good looking pussy isn’t always the best. Best sex I ever had was a friend’s ugly sister visiting from out of town, but I digress. When I was in college, one of the prettiest girls in the class, best ass in class, told me she liked me because I was straight up about women. In other words, I saw through all the bullshit and treated them with indifference and a dominant attitude. This chick was nasty too, she liked to be pissed on and fucked up the ass. A real freak. But, she was an arrogant bitch who talked too much shit about her beta friend that she used for emotional support, so it didn’t last. Sub par oral skills had something to do with it also as I wasn’t into teaching another girl how to blow me( ladies take notice). That’s part of my story and I’m sticking to it.

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  56. Who wouldn’t want to get pissed on by a fat guy? Do you eat asparagus first?

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  57. Hey everyone!! I had a great day/night and I’m back home feeling a lot better than I have past few days (finally over my fever). I got this really HAAAWT wig that’s honey blonde and super big and curly, that I can wear when I wanna switch things up a bit (I’ve never worn a wig but this mofo is amazing – doesn’t even feel or look like a wig). I’m thinking I will call myself “ SASHA” when I don that bad boy. I bought make up brushes, visited my girl and had some red wine, visited grammy in the rehab and did some shopping.
    Anyway, as promised my time here would be short since when you are at home for a few days with a bad fever, bored, tired of TV, you need to be entertained.
    I have been THOROUGHLY entertained and I want to thank you all (yes even all of the dickheads) from the bottom of my recovering fever heart for feeding my boredom while I was sick this week.
    I’m going to return back to the blogs and forums I actually find worthy of my quality time, but you guys will always remain in the back of my mind. You never know when I may pop back in, so ALWAYS be on your best behavior boys!! And if you’re really good I may come back as SASHA 😉
    To my darling ANON who I have a pending mud/chocolate wrestling match with – I’m ready when you are – Holla at your girl!

    Signing out,

    NEEEEEECY!!!!!!

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