Why Having Kids Is Not A Measure Of A Man’s Alphaness

Kindred stone cold truth tellers occasionally like to rib your humble galactic overlord by pointing out that social survey data shows that beta males have more kids than alpha males as the latter are commonly recognized, and that this means betas aren’t really betas. I respond, with amused mastery, that having kids is no measure of a man’s alphaness, especially not in this day and age of brat-thwarting contraception.

But there’s more contradicting the speciousness of this “kids = alpha male” line of thought than just the expectation-busting effect of contraception. To give the readers a clue into why it’s so wrong-headed to assume fatherhood is a default alpha state, read this story.

The guy has two (putative) sons by his parrot-faced wife, yet she does no housework, doesn’t cook, and only has sex with him on his birthday, and then not even every birthday. A bit of an extreme example of a neglectful, sex-withholding wife, but the extremes illuminate what it’s like for the mediocre masses of married men who suffer similar torments, albeit less spectacularly, at the hands of their ingrate wives who prefer to diddle to vampire porn.

So, yeah, you can snag yourself a fading beauty eager to accomplish the goal of popping out some rugrats with a man she can feel certain will do as he’s told, but don’t for a second think that “””achievement””” makes you an alpha male. The alpha male may or may not get married, may or may not have kids, but rest assured he’s not begging like a dog for pellets of pussy chow or listlessly shuffling around the house in an apron holding a dust buster.

Oh no, just the opposite; the wife of an alpha male is throwing herself at him because she can’t get enough of his undomesticated dongle.

In related beta male news, a new study found that upwards of 70% of couples are not with their true loves and are just “making do”. So sad. Game can help men find and keep their true love instead of settling for any girl who will take them. Game is pro-love. Game will get you closer to God.





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  1. I know escorts who say that most of their customers are suburban men whose wives won’t have sex with them anymore.

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    • …or that half the men don’t even want sex, just somebody to cuddle them.

      You show me dominatrix, and I’ll show you a prostitute who’s disgusted with the beta males she sleeps with, and figured out how to turn that disgust into profit.

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      • that’s exactly right, i have a lot of divorces amongst my brothers in my family, and when they finally get a little human contact after their marriage it’s like the sun just came up on their existence. they were dutiful to a fault, but just ground down to a nub by women who chose them, exploited them, and who they ‘manned up’ and married thinking that was what men do. being raised by a single mother and all…

        as for kids, at some point if you look around and think you’re worth replicating, you gotta do it. my two cents. do it late in life, that’s what i’ll do.

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  2. on October 12, 2013 at 10:27 am North Vinlander

    It’s funny how just by looking at the guy from the “this story” link, you can tell he’s an ultra-effeminate male. Is that even a real smile on his face? Doesn’t look like it and I’m not surprised.

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    • In the wedding picture he looks like a kid in a candy shop.

      “Boy oh boy I’m about to lose my virginity!”

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 11:55 am North Vinlander

        Sadly he had to wait until his birthday. 😦

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      • > “In the wedding picture he looks like a kid in a candy shop.”

        In the original discussion, a few days ago, I felt that he was actually punching way above his weight.

        In the wedding picture, she was a solid “Brit” HB7, and with those big perky upright C-cup titties of hers, she might have been a “Brit” HB8.

        He, on the other hand, for a dude, is a 3 or a 4 very consistently, across all of the pictures.

        So something went right for him.

        I guess the big question would be whether the kids are actually his biological children, or whether someone hatched a cuckoo’s egg…

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 2:46 pm North Vinlander

        What do you think the odds are that guy would demand a paternity test? Let’s just hope none of her kids come out brown.

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      • > “What do you think the odds are that guy would demand a paternity test?”

        Well, you know, you can walk into pretty much any drugstore [and probably a lot of grocery stores] in the USA and see those Over The Counter [OTC] paternity test kits.

        You just swab your mouth, and swab the kid’s mouth [or grab something which spends a lot of time in contact with the kid, like a pacifier], and send it off to the laboratory.

        Truth be told, there are aspects to the cold hard reality of modernity – like robbing us of some of the romanticism which comes with wondering about just who a child’s biological father might actually be – that are really kinda tragic in nature.

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      • on October 14, 2013 at 9:36 am North Vinlander

        Are you saying it’s a bad thing that we can know the paternity of a child?

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      • Not “bad” per se.

        But it robs us of just a little more of the mystery of life.

        No more wondering. No more fantasizing. No more day-dreaming.

        Just the cold hard reality of the 1’s and the 0’s which come back from the laboratory.

        I’m a tech guy by nature, and I just hate to see the maths intruding into [what had been] the more romantic aspects of our lives.

        It’s like these dudes who run the chemistry software programs, 24×7, to see whether they can come up with a new methamphetamine-class of drug which will give an even greater bang-for-the-buck than the previous one they discovered.

        They actually have “Pirate Bay” kinds of websites [in the “Dark Internet”] where those dudes exchange tips with one another.

        As if you can’t get enough of a rush out of life from walking along the beach, holding hands with a pretty girl, as the sun sets in the background…

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    • I call that the “permasmile”- when the muscles are tight (as is the case when you’re uncomfortable) you smile, and the smile just kind of stays there for a little while past when it was appropriate, rather than returning to normal. I do this when I’m experiencing magnesium deficiencies.

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      • on October 15, 2013 at 10:39 am ain't nuttin but a gansta partayyy

        in the second picture, look at her left arm…looks like she’s wearing a fat suit…BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE…it’s not actually a fat suit she’s just actually a fat fucking mess and buddy should probably push her out of a moving car

        and the fourth picture, is that a picture on the wall of the underside of a bush? lol wtf

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    • In other news, a daughter is evolutionarily hardwired to fuck poor, lazy bad boys in order to best drain resources from her parents (father) and away from her siblings:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/13/opinion/sunday/evolution-and-bad-boyfriends.html?_r=0

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      • “unequal investment created an incentive for daughters to ‘exploit’ their parents’ generosity by choosing a partner who was less supportive.”

        that’s our swirling toilet bowl of society right there, when the state explodes the problem and funds these women’s poor choices.

        great article. makes me appreciate arranged marriage a bit.

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      • who got dem shine shoe
        who got dem shine rim
        who got dem shine grillllllzlollzzzllolllz

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      • Interesting, but I’d like to see the theory tested in the real world. A few problems I see with it are:

        1. Its usually the poors who get picked off during any kind of “cleansing” period. Think the Black Plague and which socioeconomic class of people made up most of its victims. Wouldnt this influence mate choice among women?

        2. In the past it was the rich who got more children than the poor and this should also influence mate choice.

        3. From what I see in real life women prefer the guy with money to the one without.

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  3. But what was straw man?

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  4. At least you aren’t a virgin.

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    • The only good reason for two people to sleep together is being in love with each other.

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      • Love is a lie created by female evolution. Women don’t even love their children. It is merely reproductive lust in the latter, and a manipulation to achieve the latter in the former. All women are convinced about love, which is why the manipulation is so #$%damn effective. Love is what you women say. They guy becomes relatively second best, and the wedding vow becomes for better or for better. The man who owns the moon is not good enough if there is a man who owns the sun. That is a woman’s ‘love’.

        Women cannot rest in seeking love unless the men form a successful patriarchy and take away all social climbing options. You guys are like sharks that must always swim, more so when the reproductive goods are a dusty memory, because you ate from the cock carousel of knowledge and can never admit status decline. Love is the ratchet of the woman’s reproduction racket, a noose that has only one shot at civilized achievement before the feral hypergamy must destroy all that is societal in her social web.

        Hate what I say, but the hamster never rests in these times. Scratch. Scratch. Claw. Claw. Searching…seek and destroy. Searching…seek and destroy.

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      • “You guys are like sharks that must always swim”

        great comment. in the file for later

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      • Except that it should be: “You GALS are like sharks that must always swim”.

        Right?

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      • I was using guys generically, but as a quote it would be better with gals, women, chicks, broads…for whatever tone you like. I did not mean as a rule men were sharks. If men at large took the law into their own hands within the sphere of their individual lives, most men would be shark breakers not sharks. We make culture and society. I definitely meant the women are sharks, owing to the relentless instinct we call the Female Imperative.

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      • yeah. i just kept the original context when cut/paste.

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      • I copied and saved this entire comment.

        Really well said.

        Now cue Lily or RappaccinisDaughter to tell us that not all women are like that….

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      • “Love is a lie created by female evolution.”

        Love was created by God.

        Men created romance.

        Women have been taking advantage of both ever since.

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      • Very well said!

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      • Bullseye.
        Women love themselves, money, shoes and, above all, social status.
        A man who wants true love needs to adopt a dog.
        Cats, parrots, horses or tarantulas will do.

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      • “Women don’t even love their children” was the stupidest comment ever written here. I stopped reading after that. Your anger against women is showing. No wonder why some of you don’t get laid. Lots of frustration, I see here.

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      • oh my. you’ve been snacking on the paint chips again I see.

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      • Nah…the only good reason is if you need body heat.

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 2:36 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        you need body heat? No need for love. Just leave one leg unshaved.

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      • I have lost track of the number of women who have said “I love you” to me in the throes and aftermath of orgasm.

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      • They were talking to their orgasm.

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      • they said it cuz they’re stupid. who says this? keep him guessing. Be as quiet as he is.

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  5. What about men like Mr. Duggar? He met a hot teen cheerleader and convinced her to convert to his extreme version of Christianity and shun all birth control to spend her life popping out 19 of his offspring.

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    • Alpha.

      She had to conform to his life…which is how things used to and should be.

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    • What about men like this guy?

      He has three wives and 24 children. Is he alpha? I can imagine it’s hard to maintain hand with three different women and deal with their jealousy issues.

      Do you ever get jealous?

      “We get asked this question probably more than any other. And the answer is a resounding YES! We are human. How we deal with it is what makes the difference for us. First, we all entered this marriage knowing that Joe had a relationship with more than one person. We also get a lot of fulfillment out of the relationships we have formed with one another as sister-wives. In the beginning of our marriage, it took a lot of work and adjusting. We had to learn to trust one another.”

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  6. “It was Ben’s touching gesture of sending boxes of Krispy Kreme doughnuts to the office that made me realise what an excellent husband he’d make.”

    I’m surprised she’s not fatter than she is, considering it sounds like she just sits at a desk, eats donuts, and contributes to her family’s life in no way whatsoever.

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  7. ”In related beta male news, a new study found that upwards of 70% of couples are not with their true loves and are just “making do”. So sad.”

    You’re right about that, this is truly sad. Glad you don’t support settling anymore. I love your blog because it supports true love. ❤

    Why my comments keep disappearing? Do you delete them or they just disappear by themselves?

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    • if it’s too long it takes a minute to work its way in. but it’ll get in. trust me

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    • ”In related beta male news, a new study found that upwards of 70% of couples are not with their true loves and are just “making do”. So sad.”

      That implies these people have ‘true loves’ somewhere out there in the world, but for whatever reason are not with their true loves (presumably because their true loves don’t reciprocate their feelings). That’s unlikely to be true, so the part about true loves should be ignored and the data interpreted to simply read: 70% of couples are disappointed with their present partners.

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  8. “Game will get you closer to God.” (CH)

    I’m interested in knowing what this means?

    [CH: I want to fuck them all like an animal.]

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    • You will know this when you find your true love. Game helps you to be the best version of yourself and so it helps you to attract and keep the girl you will love with all of your heart and she will love you with all of her heart so both of you will get closer to God by experiencing true love.

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    • ”[CH: I want to fuck them all like an animal.]”

      What.. Who are ‘them’? It is possible to fall in love with just one girl but first you need to find her. When you fall in love with her and she with you, you will forget about all the others because she will be such an inspiration for you. You will want to take care of her for her whole life.

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      • True love is a female need and creation. Men do not need true love. Men want to be revered as king by the hottest young woman they can get. And as a man, I’m still going to want to fuck all the pretty young things that filter in and out of my life. My wife knows that she is competing against all the other girls that I interact with on a daily basis. Yeah yeah, I love her and she loves me. But our reptile brain instincts are more powerful as your fairy tale Disney true love ideal.

        The fact is, attraction is not a choice. If I lose my job, get fat and turn into a sniveling wimp, my wife will rightfully lose attraction to me. And likewise if she gets fat and bitchy, no amount of Viagra is going to resuscitate that attraction. If my wife gets fat my attraction would be drawn to the 20 year olds with the perky tits.

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      • ”And as a man, I’m still going to want to fuck all the pretty young things that filter in and out of my life.”

        Why would you want to do that? Don’t you want them to get happily married like you are? Why any man would want to just fuck a girl like an animal and then discard her, I don’t understand it … It’s disgusting.

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 5:47 pm Modern Primitive

        “Why any man would want to just fuck a girl like an animal and then discard her, I don’t understand it … It’s disgusting.”

        It’s how we’re wired baby. Hate the game, not the player.

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      • “Men do not need true love.”

        Wrong.

        But what men need to get is that true love is not found from a woman.

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      • Woah, now, that’s sounding a little homo. Please do elaborate.

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      • Have you missed all of the religiousity thus far?

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      • “Men do not need true love. Men want to be revered as king by the hottest young woman they can get.”

        Wrong. All the anger you guys have here against women is because you think women aren’t capable of loving a man; only capable of hypergamy. No. You want love and loyalty from a woman. The greatest love poetry ever written was by males, and some of them were pretty misogynist males at that.

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      • Wrong Lily. True love for a man is to be revered by the hottest young woman they can get. The squishy kind of thing Maya is talking about gets really old pretty fast for men. Men want to be admired not hugged (unless said hug leads to sex). But we’re still going to want to fuck all the other hot young women too. It’s how men are built. You can deny it all you want. But the only men who act like you and Maya think are the same men that you’d never fuck.

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      • Hearts, what I wanted to say is that men would be much happier if they married their dream girl instead of having short affairs with ”sluts”. Why men don’t look for a soul mate like women do?

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 5:51 pm Modern Primitive

        Because men and women are after different things in the mating game?

        Banging a new sluts is to men what buying new shoes is for women.

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      • on October 14, 2013 at 4:37 am The Burninator

        In this brave new world of lesbian inspired, empowered Sisterhood, there aren’t many dream girls left, anywhere, in the West (Europe, USA, Canada, Ausieland, NZ, etc). If you want good men, try telling your sisters to drop the Butch Lezzie standard stance of “I am better than men, hear me roar!”

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    • NIN FTW.

      And for the record this is Reznor’s wife when he decided to settle down who also sings in his side project:

      Trent Reznor = alpha of the century

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      • how is he an alpha, she’s ugly as sin

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      • i can’t get into r’s either

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      • buncha slack jawed faggots in here

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      • Definitely a Ladyboy.

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      • Look at the size of her forehead compared to his. Small cranium, low capacity.

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      • And for the record this is Reznor’s wife

        Yuck!

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      • You really find that girl unattractive?

        I guess my standards are pretty low then.

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      • ugly face even with all that professional makeup and airbrushing, how horrible must she look without it?

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      • weird genetics, looks like a negrified asian with light skin

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      • The asian dont get much love round these parts. I gues the yellow fever guys are betas mainly. (NOTE:I would bang her,oh yes, I would bang her. But thats just me nomesyane?)

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      • OK, let me give you guys the logic from the “Book of White Man” (BOWM)

        When an old white man with options “takes” a young dark girl, he is (among other things) telegraphing his virility to all other women, and to a lessor extent, other men.

        The message is, “black girls just wanna fuck all night, and YES, I do have more than enough jam!”

        You can call it the “Bianca Jagger effect”.

        In addition, a side benefit is the young piece of poon never being mistaken for YOUR daughter.

        Stop hatin on the white man.

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      • thwack is chickrationalizing again!

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      • i think she’s great man. i can see that she won’t likely age well, but don’t take the judgments here too seriously. plus that type of woman has the benefit of driving other women insane with jealousy, so it probably begets all kinds of side tail

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      • > “so it probably begets all kinds of side tail”

        LOL’ed.

        Oh boy.

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      • Ignore the “pointy elbows” critics dude

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      • How is a guy who has made a career out of writing whiny dark songs full of emotional turmoil and angst the alpha of the century? Every time I find myself feeling connected to a NiN song, I know I’m moving in the wrong direction, emotionally. In the right direction, all that emotional angst bullshit has no power to resonate with me, because I’m focused and centered on being a fucking awesome guy that I know chicks want, and I have far better things to do than waste a moment feeling sorry for myself, or whining about how unfair reality is.

        The guy in this story probably has children with nappy hair.

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      • on October 13, 2013 at 2:54 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        he didn’t become a songwriter because he mistakenly imagined that it pays better than being a offshore-oil-rig roustabout. He became a songwriter so he could screw the roustabout’s daughter as a side dish.

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      • i feel that way about most musicians, it’s all unrequited or endless love blah. but i guess celebrity trumps most sentiment in terms of results with women. i definitely agree with using that kind of thing as a barometer for ourselves though. if you’re relating to most nin or the cure you are not going the right way

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      • > “the cure”

        Man, do they even have lyrics?

        I always thought of that shit as dance music.

        When you get right down to it, just knowing the lyrics is way beyond beta and is getting out towards gamma/sigma/omega/whatever.

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      • The Cure’s shtick is being too depressed to end themselves properly.

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      • Troubadour

        How is a guy who has made a career out of writing whiny dark songs full of emotional turmoil and angst the alpha of the century?
        —————————————————————————————–

        Radio Head is even worse. Friends of mine tried to turn me on to them but I never could “get it.”

        Ive come to the conclusion that its because I have no experience with SSRIs.

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      • Radiohead is for white people. As evidence, I present the album Kid A

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      • Really?

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      • Not sure if Trent Reznor is alpha anymore.

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    • Never thought too much of him. Rich kid playing disaffected bad boy. I think he has a new album out.

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    • Its said that angels walk among us. Have you ever fucked an angel?

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    • how can any one not get this reference

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  9. […] this post about alphaness and reproductive success, https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/why-having-kids-is-not-a-measure-of-a-mans-alphaness/, I thought I would contribute my own […]

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  10. Quality of kids are generally a measure of a man’s alphaness. A clean-cut boy who gets decent grades, plays a sport, is well-liked by his peers (who naturally gravitate toward him and look to him for decisions), is mature for his age, is adventurous and has a good sense of humor typically has an alpha for a father. A quiet girl who dresses well, never mis-speaks, has a sense of modesty, has mastered a number of practical skills, practices humility even when superior, and doesn’t play the typical passive-aggressive girl games.

    There aren’t a lot of these left in the US. They’re being outbred by beta fathers. Once in a blue moon, a beta father will raise an alpha kid by accident or some other miracle, but typically beta tendencies are inherent.

    If one was expecting outright aggressive chest-beating sons and bar-slut daughters from alpha males, one would be deeply mistaken. When alphas do settle down and have families, they impose order. Typically the primary virtue passed on to both genders is “strength through discipline.” You get what you want by being master of yourself. Again, how many people in the US can you say are actually masters of themselves?

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    • How many people in the United States are required to be masters of themselves? In an age where the schools are too cowed to give children bad grades and the government hands out other people’s money like candy, there’s no incentive for disciplined (and thus, productive) behavior. When you can’t fail, there’s no reason to strive.

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    • Basically, television from the 1950s.

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    • and zero kids is zero quality. i don’t think it has to be a traditional setup or anything so these examples don’t bother me in terms of my plans. but having ineffectual sex with a thousand women and then kicking off with a smile, in the grand scheme of things, is like having played your life as a video game. it’s over, nothing resulting from it.

      so unless you create some eternal work of art or something. create some great kids. genghis khan was alpha as hell.

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  11. Reblogged this on oogenhand and commented:
    Good point about Mr. Duggar.

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  12. on October 12, 2013 at 11:01 am gunslingergregi

    In related beta male news, a new study found that upwards of 70% of couples are not with their true loves and are just “making do”. So sad. Game can help men find and keep their true love instead of settling for any girl who will take them. Game is pro-love. Game will get you closer to God.”””””””””

    think that is true
    settling is for suckers
    get what the fuck you want
    and ya can’t know what ya want without experience

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  13. on October 12, 2013 at 11:02 am gunslingergregi

    Oh no, just the opposite; the wife of an alpha male is throwing herself at him because she can’t get enough of his undomesticated dongle.”””””””””””””””

    always ready

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  14. “Kindred stone cold truth tellers occasionally like to rib your humble galactic overlord by pointing out that social survey data shows that beta males have more kids than alpha males as the latter are commonly recognized, and that this means betas aren’t really betas. ”

    They may be wrong. I wrote the following post in response to this:

    http://feministx.wordpress.com/2013/10/12/2915/

    According to GSS data, for a man, having cheated on your spouse is associated with more children. For women, it depends on intelligence. Intelligent women who claim to have never cheated on their spouse tend to have more children.

    So faithful wife and unfaithful husband do better on fertility, at least for the intelligent.

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    • Could just be that smart people are more effective at achieving their goals, which would of course be faithful for women and unfaithful for men–higamus hogamus and all that. 😉

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  15. on October 12, 2013 at 11:10 am gunslingergregi

    course maybe I settled I didn’t get high school bitch but then again couldn’t promised never marry American bitch he he he
    look where she at divorced two kids has boyfriend
    read 50 shades of grey
    not in love prob

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  16. Having kids in our modern utopia is a suicidal expansion of your attack surface.

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  17. Is mother a gorgeous 20 something 15 years your junior?

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  18. Abortion is slaughtering alpha cad spawn, but at least unwed moms are doing their part to keep some cad spawn alive. Silver lining.

    It’s good to know that genetic dead ends can be alpha. And hey, at least your genes are going out in style,and you can thank all your ancestors for the ride (but never apologize for not leaving them descendants, because it’s all about you, babe).

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  19. Either the story is fictional, or the husband is gay!

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    • Or, you are a stupid cunt who can’t accept the truth ?

      Somehow I think that’s the more likely of the three possibilities.

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    • on October 14, 2013 at 4:43 am The Burninator

      Why fictional? The sexless husband is so prevalent in Western society that it’s a known joke these days. See a guy in khaki shorts and a three button polo shirt, sitting dutifully at his daughter’s soccer game with a smug looking wife and you can basically know that he’s sexless or nearly so. It’s not a big secret any longer, look at any given marriage/relationship blog that is not red pill, there are as many posts from sexless husbands as the site(s) hard drives can handle and store.

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      • Because the story portrays him as happy, or at least content. I’m sure wives like this exist, but their husbands aren’t going to grin and pose for a magazine story… unless it’s a publicity stunt for $$$, or he’s gay as a blade.

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  20. I’d take sex out of the equation when it comes to assigning a greek letter…and make it more simple definition.

    An alpha is in control of his life.

    A beta gives somebody else control.

    Men have both of these traits…but whichever one he uses the most is the default.

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  21. on October 12, 2013 at 12:34 pm lagunabeachfogey

    “…begging like a dog for pellets of pussy chow”

    LOL! Classic.

    Having offspring is no accomplishment. I see all manner of timid beta males–many of them Asian–with kids in tow.

    If wives won’t have sex with their husbands, surely there’s something wrong with the men, too.

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  22. Show me 10 dad’s and I’ll bet one of my paychecks that at least 8 are total pussies.

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    • So true. What is left out of these discussions is that the dad is the e-stab-lishment via government, choosing reproductive winners and losers to make conquest automatic. The pussy dad’s success is not really his success.

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      • I live in a VERY nice suburban neighborhood. 90% of the dad’s are beaten men. Ask them a question and the wives have to answer for them.

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      • Once a man says that, I’ve lost all interest in whatever it was he is asking about. I can’t believe I’ve changed my mind so drastically on this, but all that married by the state pussy is fair game in my mind. It is not marriage if the woman wears the pants. It is probably socioeconomic sodomy in slow motion, and why should all that pussy be locked up and useless in my society. If I can’t own it, any of it, I expect to be able to rent it, all of it, or borrow it if the AFC wants to provide the bux. lolzlolz Again, I can’t believe I believe that morally. No patriarchy with me, no moral code with me. Pussies don’t give me my freedom to fulfill my masculine potential. At least if the woman submits to the man, the man is keeping that hypergamous poison in check, and putting a woman to good use as a devoted wife is laudable. I leave that pussy alone on my moral grounds.

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      • Take it further. If she wasn’t a virgin when she married, she’s a harlot and open game for your enjoyment. It’s easy if you try.

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    • i say closer to 9.5 out of 10

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  23. Increasing alpha dominance has done nothing to slow the decline in Western birthrates. Meanwhile, betas have to spend so much time focusing on achievement (sometimes doing counter-productive things like going to grad school: http://100rsns.blogspot.com/) that by the time they get around to having kids, they end up with few to none.

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    • People are need machines that don’t need to exist. Thank god people aren’t having as many kids. It’s an idiotic, emotionally-driven move to give yourself and ego boost. That’s all having a kid is.

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      • No, it’s an instinctual drive to expand one’s genetic legacy.

        Plenty of people are having kids, just the wrong race of people.

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      • sometimes i wonder if it is really the wrong races– with all the white guilt and self-hate i wouldn’t mind whitey just going away sometimes. think about all the shit it causes to be that unable to just unapologetically rock in life.

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      • on October 14, 2013 at 4:50 am The Burninator

        Race has nothing to do with it. We whites ruthlessly conquered the world and were in the process of fearlessly colonizing space when the Pussy Syndrome hit us hard in the gut. It’s philosophy, somehow a poison pill of feminism and socialism were inserted into what was once a legacy of heroes, bravery, patriarchy and achievement.

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    • Increasing alpha dominance has done nothing to slow the decline in Western birthrates.

      Wait… there’s been increasing alpha dominance by Western men of their women? I’m confused.

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  24. I surely must have a sadistic side. Everytime I make a woman cry I start laughing. When I was breaking up with my ex she was crying hysterically which elicited laughter on my end.

    Everytime I’ve made a woman sob this has been the result. WTF guys

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    • by your writing it’s a deficit in your emotional frame that causes an ego defense (superiority issues caused by you insecurity in managing your emotions and the emotions of others).

      it’s just how you protect yourself from addressing the real issue by dismissing it. that is gonna bubble up to be dealt with sooner rather than later.

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm Greatest Beta

        That makes sense. I’m beginning to look at my weaknesses and inner insecurities and its extremely powerful.

        Btw I read Hesse good stuff been digging thru the great books gaining power thru wisdom.

        What led u down the red pill road? Me, I’ve always questioned things. The social awakening began in 2008 when I learned about the fed and fiat currency. The game knowledge began in 2012 but I always had the basics down from being a natural and my father. Now there is no going back.

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      • Your analysis makes lots of sense, but I wonder if it could be something else, maybe additionally in the case of Greatest Beta. I laugh on the inside at being free from taking an evolutionarily anachronistic, reptilianly calculating at face value and being under her thumb. I laugh at the ridiculousness of woman pretending to be virtuous, nobile, loving,…all that bullshit. Maybe we should laugh. Women understand the language of shaming. If they are useless as wives, 99% of them are a net loss to society. Shame them until daughters, mothers, and fathers get the message and the culture changes so women are raised to have civilized utility to the sex that has civilized value. Often times are first reactions, our instincts that feel out of character are exactly the right responses, but we have not grown enough in our logic to know why it is right, and we repress our greatness out of naivety. A man must be cold to be just, and every damn thing presented to us these days is a Gordian knot and we are supposed to be the ones cleaning up after the Affirmative Action victim groups. Maybe a little sedism minus the guilt is masculinity in a bad situation created by others. I’d be resentful, ’cause I am. However, don’t get mad, play to win, Game the garbage. If you are playing to torment, that is a distraction, maybe a cop out, from trying to win. Fucking play to win, and break eggs to make omelets without guilt, because all you can do is try to make omelets with what the political and economic options are. They are in the fucking way. Face it and be at peace with it. My two cents.

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    • What happens when you make them laugh?

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 1:27 pm gunslingergregi

      dam man
      I enjoy it sometimes and sometimes I tell em to cry on command
      but I don’t always laugh
      sometimes it is fun to live vicariously through their emotions and get caught up
      you prob doin it right though

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 1:32 pm gunslingergregi

      american bitch will cry over spilt milk though

      when my wife cried like the one time
      I wanted to kill myself

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  25. a child in 2013 is a mechanism for continued wealth extraction from beta’s.

    it’s the most beta of beta acts, to give in to the pleads for a child.

    fyi, a low dose x-ray (bang the hot x-ray tech for freebees) knockt the tails right off those little suckers for like 3 months.

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  26. “When we began dating in 2003, I was helping to launch a woman’s magazine, which required me to be at work from 8am until 11pm.”

    I can tell you three things wrong with that statement.

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  27. I’ve said this FOR YEARS. I’ve NEVER considered a man to be an Alpha Male simply because he fertilized a woman’s egg.

    A few years ago, there was this couple on “The Dr. Phil” show who were into “couple swapping” and swinging. One problem: About a year into the swinging & couple-swapping, the wife STOPPED having sex with her husband COMPLETELY. They had a daughter together though.

    Dr. Phil was like, “How can you stay married to her … when she refuses to have sex with you?” The husband was like, “Because I love her.” I cringed.

    The wife said, “I love my husband …. but more like a little brother or a son than someone I want to have sex with. But he is a GREAT FATHER to our daughter. That’s why I stay married to him.” I was like, “WOW.”

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  28. It says my comment went through … but I don’t see it!

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  29. I don’t think there’s ever been a God with a capital G.

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  30. im boring and im just repeating myself over and over again. i shouldnt comment here anymore … i want everyone who reads this blog to find their true love and live happily. listen to your heart and be kind to other human beings. bye!

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    • As I told you recently Maya, you have a Mickey Mouse view of the world. Life is not that simple. It’s filled with unrequited wishes. Just became you want life to work a certain way, it doesn’t mean it will, ever. You got to learn to cope with life.

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  31. As usual, great as far as it goes, just as long as you don’t procure the death of your own child in abortion. This flesh and blood image is supposed to extend you through time, that’s why children are always central in feelings of fulfillment and joy. Do what you need to do to make the family, the first government, work. But it’s not alpha to kill babies. There can’t be any argument about that, women kill babies.

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    • It should be noted, in the Christian tradition, the dragon hates the human ability to *pro-create* a begetting (not making) ability the angels lack. And God became a human not an angel afterall. The demonic is always in some way wanting to interrupt child birth. The dragon makes war on the woman who was the cause of his downfall in the Incarnation. Christmas will always be of the reason and meaning of a human life.

      It’d be good of CH reminds how a lie closely approximates the truth.The demon is *the* expert at aping God, desperately grasping for Godhead as he does. Corruption and abuse of marriage and male-female relationship, yes! baby out with bathwater? no.

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    • and i continue to savor the coming abort-pocalypse when women start preferentially aborting female and later gay babies. what will the hive-hamster come up with to protect unrestricted right to abortion then.

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      • what will the hive-hamster come up with to protect unrestricted right to abortion then.
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        Machines will perform abortions:

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  32. The article about Britain’s worst wife also contains a good insight into the wall.

    Look at the picture of the wife in her wedding dress, which was seven years before the other pictures of her in the article. Age does not do a broad well. Look at how much more slender she is, how much prettier her face. She probably doesn’t look so bad considering her age now but nowhere near as good as before; no one escapes the wall.

    Her husband, in contrast, looks even better and it appears he has lost weight since the wedding. Shame, with better (read: non-beta) behaviour he could have nabbed himself a wife, rather than an ungrateful hag which has him whipped to the max.

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  33. The only question is which one of those two is deserving of the greater contempt.

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  34. Man, that article is some twilight zone shit. Sometimes that kind of thing makes me hate the world, but sometimes it makes me love the world more for being so fucking funny. Plus, Britain is always fun to laugh at. I like to think that British bitches are even worse than the ones here, and articles like this confirm that viewpoint.

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  35. Sure, but this is why Western society is decaying. Look at alpha places like Russia and Africa (yes, only one of those cultures has produced Dostoevsky and Prokofiev)–hell-holes full of violence and crime. Conversely, the Japanese and Swedes are beta as heck, but they have no crime.

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    • Sure, but this is why Western society is decaying. Look at alpha places like Russia and Africa (yes, only one of those cultures has produced Dostoevsky and Prokofiev)–hell-holes full of violence and crime.

      First of all, Russia isn’t nearly as bad as commonly made out, and besides, it suffered under 75 years of communism. Crime and violence is now lower there than in groid/muzzie infested areas of Western Europe. Secondly, Africa has a little problem called “abnormally low IQ”.

      Conversely, the Japanese and Swedes are beta as heck, but they have no crime.

      They’re coasting on the achievements of their alpha forefathers.

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      • corvinus
        Secondly, Africa has a little problem called “abnormally low IQ”.
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        Would a higher IQ result in better treatment for them?

        I doubt it. Matter of fact, it would just make them more productive slaves.

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      • They’d realize that killing each other was stupid and cooperate more.

        They’d also be able to develop their own technology and solutions to problems.

        Sound familiar?

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      • Sound familiar?
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        You white guys have produced such a secure and efficient culture that you can now be replaced by mexicans, google, groids and asians.

        What is the purpose of a white man?

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      • You white guys have produced such a secure and efficient culture that you can now be replaced by mexicans, google, groids and asians.

        What is the purpose of a white man?

        _________________________

        We produced a culture that once was secure and efficient for us. But no culture, even ours, is One Size Fits All, and it is not at all clear that ‘mexicans,…groids and asians’ (your terms, not mine) will be able to sustain it, never mind growing or developing it. Why would they bother, when they each have a culture of their own?

        Why does the question of human purpose have to be answered at the tribal or racial level? It’s a universal question. I understand Aristotle to have claimed that the purpose of human life is Happiness, which is not merely Pleasure. That would be as true in Ghana as in Greece.

        Your question is a distraction. No Han Chinese, upon being perplexed at how to answer the question, What is the purpose of a Han Chinese?, would conclude in exasperation that Han Chinese have no right to exist as Han Chinese, articulating and advancing their collective interests and enforcing their tribal boundaries however they deem wise. So why should we?

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      • Dimitri802

        Your question is a distraction. No Han Chinese, upon being perplexed at how to answer the question, What is the purpose of a Han Chinese?, would conclude in exasperation that Han Chinese have no right to exist as Han bla bla bla, squonk, thornnk, buhskizzl…..
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      • Your posturing via Hollywood is amusingly AMOG-ish, but it’s still posturing, not argument. Remember Eric Holder’s we-are-a-nation-of-cowards remarks? I figured you for one of the smart ones, with a mind worth engaging on a matter that will determine whether we have a future as one country. Maybe I was wrong.

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      • Dimitri802
        I figured you for one of the smart ones, with a mind worth engaging on a matter
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        Ni66a pahleeez,

        you rolled up in here to pull two different white boys nutz out the fire when they got hemmed up. Then you start speaking for “Han Chinese”;

        ni66a is you Han chinese?

        WTF?

        Look man, what you did is honorable, lookin out for your boys and all that… but you missed the EZ layup too.

        Thanks for playin.

        Next!

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      • What is the purpose of a white man?

        To continue producing apex-evolution humans with the white woman, and secure a habitat in which it is possible.

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      • “To continue producing apex-evolution humans with the white woman,”
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        in order to do what?

        Thats not a purpose.

        Thats like saying the purpose of a fat man is to continue eating more than anyone else and secure a habitat in which that is possible.

        In other words, thats not a purpose anyone else CAN’T have.

        Is there another white person that has a better answer?

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      • What part of “apex-evolution humans” made you read that as “fat guy” of “anyone else”?

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      • What part of “apex-evolution humans” made you read that as “fat guy” of “anyone else”?
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        Im trying not to make you look stupid, but you are forcing my hand with your weak circular logic; (((shakin my head)))

        Here, I’ll let you shoot yourself in the head for me:

        What is the purpose of an “apex-evolution human?”

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      • Corvinus, Russia’s murder rate is much higher than France’s. Much higher, faggot.

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    • on October 13, 2013 at 3:08 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

      in Sweden, crimes committed by ‘groids and jihadis don’t get counted.

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  36. I got my fist, I got my plan, I got survivalism.

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  37. on October 12, 2013 at 5:10 pm gunslingergregi

    dam told everyone I didn’t love the exchick no more and her and husband getting beatdown on street daily

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 5:14 pm gunslingergregi

      guess ya can say that causation something something you learned in college now

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 5:34 pm gunslingergregi

        am I willing to put my life on line to rescue her
        yea I have in past spur of moment shit
        and every drug dealer in the area know what I did
        but it ain’t gonna be like my wife when I have time to think about it and decide whether or not i’m willing to put my life on line
        I was for wife she earned it
        this chick no not anymore

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      • on October 12, 2013 at 7:52 pm gunslingergregi

        thoughts anyone?
        yea shit gets real sometimes
        what the fuck ya do

        where the fuck yareally with the nobody beats the shit out of people ploy
        or people don’t pull knives when ya lookin for em and meet em one on one
        tell me this all a dream bro

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  38. and the sad part is that even though she contributes nothing at all to the household she’ll still get half his stuff when she divorces him.

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  39. A bunch of pud-pulling, porn-watching little boys hiding in mommy’s basement pounding a keyboard instead of poon and justifying their bullshit with statements like, “having kids is not a sign of alpha-ness.” And the proof for this assertion? A nutless mangina in Britain!

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    • on October 12, 2013 at 6:00 pm gunslingergregi

      possible but can only prove yourself so many times it gets old
      sometimes ya just got to say fuck it
      they deserve that shit
      he he he

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    • He didn’t say having kids is beta. He said having children has nothing to do with alpha/beta, and an alpha may or may not have them. A father can be alpha or beta.

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    • Well, yes. I mean, if a nutless Mangina can have kids then having kids is not a sign of being anything more than a nutless mangina. Nicht war?

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    • Internet tough guy had his feelings hurt.

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      • “Internet tough guy had his feeling hurt.”

        No, sweetums. Trying to shame neckbeards and pud-pullers away from the keyboard and out into the real world where the poon is, instead of fantasizing about their alphaness at the keyboard

        [CH: spot the irony.]

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  40. I am 100% sure , the guy is boffing someone at work. However, I am 100% unsure of the gender he would be boffing.

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  41. I would like to see you post an example of alpha fatherhood that doesn’t involve the moronic jail-break you posted some time ago. Also, Dugger’s a cunt who can’t pull without lying to men as well as women. For all I care he may as well be a dyke with a stash of semen in the freezer. Have any of you listened to his kids? They don’t get it. Failing to pass on the secret of game success disqualifies any would-be man from alpha status. He’s raising betas: that makes him beta. Show me an alpha father with alpha grandchildren. That’s the definition of alpha. All the rest are lucky betas with a little game tricks written on slips of paper.

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  42. For the viewing pleasure of CH loyalists… We bring you from amongst the White Masses… The Uber Beta!

    http://i.imgur.com/SggY27d.png?1

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  43. THIS is also why betas need to learn game and NOT just settle for a women who’s done with carousel riding. Even if she doesn’t divorce him the marriage will suck… no sex… and she will treat him like shit. I think for most low betas/omegas it’s better to stay single and hire prostitute/escorts.

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  44. Male alpha is measured by how many alpha females he does, without sticking around to see outcomes. Female alpha is measured by craftiness in convincing some other man to support her children by alpha males: “Screw pirates and convince an accountant that the children are his.”

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  45. on October 13, 2013 at 3:13 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    Am I the only one who thinks that the Cathedral’s fawning over this Malala Yousafzai, is only going to ensure that this poor kid will never find a husband? Oh, wait, she holds a Brit passport now.

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    • My question is whether her “getting shot in the head by the Taliban” story even happened?

      It sounds so dramatic, and she sounds so brave…. but the whole thing may be an invention.

      Have her parents been interviewed?

      Did dad fail to pay what he owe?

      Did her pimp pull the trigger?

      This story got a Lance Armstrong flavor to it.

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  46. Meanwhile, Swedish bitch upsizes following pregnancy to film star owen wilson.

    TLDR version: personal trainer dumps her plastic surgeon husband one day after discovering she was pregnant to Wilson.

    http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/owen-wilson-expecting-baby-with-married-fitness-trainer-caroline-lindqvist-20131210

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  47. “It was Ben’s touching gesture of sending boxes of Krispy Kreme doughnuts to the office that made me realise what an excellent husband he’d make.”

    She needs a wash.

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  48. This comment may well be deleted, dissent on core issues isn’t popular in online fora, but I find CH’s definitions of ‘Alpha’ much too broad and inclusive, which creates much confusion.
    In order to be ‘Alpha’, one must be the leader of a pack, and there can only be one per pack. For true Alpha-ness, it also helps tremendously if you are TRULY ATTRACTIVE (= physically) to women.
    In other words, the tall, young, good-looking captain of the football team from a rich family. Now THAT is Alpha.
    Guys who are pack leaders, but only attractive to women based on their socioeconomic status would be Gamma (CH: ‘Lesser Alpha’ – Nicolas Sarkozy, Silvio Berlusconi, Hugh Hefner, Donald Trump, etc.), and the travelling bard who is ‘sexy’ because he’s a ‘rebel’ and strums his guitar on a street corner for change would be Sigma (CH: ‘ Lone Wolf Alpha’, which cannot exist, because he has no pack).
    Regarding kids or no kids, having them may not be a measure of ‘Alpha-ness’, but I’ve long had the suspicion that the actual gene pool may be much smaller than we all think it is, meaning that I think there’s a fairly high probability that only about 1/3 or 1/4 of the guys who *think* they are fathers actually are……

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    • on October 14, 2013 at 11:43 am Hugh G. Rection

      I find the whole nomenclature to be lacking, better to just allow for some latitude than to talk about semantics all day.

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  49. Gay Boxer Loses In Title Fight Shot

    http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2013/10/12/gay-boxer-loses-in-title-fight-shot/

    I see a trend of people coming out of the closet (or just pretending to be gay) as a way to generate hype or reinvent themselves when their career is failing.

    Sally Ride was a lesbian but she never made a big deal about it. Why can’t they all be like that?

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  50. It really depends on why the woman wants to have kids. If its to fulfill her agenda of life tasks (get married? check. have children? check) then he’s a sperm-providing beta. If its because she wants to recreate him so there is more him in the world, then he’s an alpha. I know of a woman who keeps saying she wants children. I challenged her on it. I said, oh really? So, you beam at mother pushing strollers? You instinctively coo at babies? She didn’t even know what I was talking about. The baby is about her, not him. It doesn’t surprise me that her boyfriend is wary about marrying her, but she can’t figure it out. I keep telling her to forget about finishing her PhD- that she can do that later- but she get most ruffled about that. *sigh*

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  51. on October 13, 2013 at 9:47 am Greatest Beta

    Field report

    Last night me and two of my boys go to this lounge bar in a mid tier city. The composition of the club was upper class hispanic. 80 percent hispanic with the other 20 percent white. Numerous hotties with a decent ratio. Some DJ from vegas flew in. Good good vibes.

    I open two girls at the bar, have them going for a good 10 minutes. One of the girls was married (flaunted her ring) yet she was more flirty than her friend (my target) which was uncomfortable with me. Had her hand resting on her face half the time which i noticed. There, instead of me chillin with the game I up it and boom they are gone. I see them later on the dance floor the married one is giving strong signals I ignore (viva la manosphere) and then I see her friend dancing with a male 6 lol.

    We were given glow sticks I went up to these girls saying “my stick is better than urs” there like noooooooooo we start talking but they literally have nothing to say. I also get bored of opening (this happens to me after Ive already opened a few sets prior) and just walk away and start talking to some cook dudes I met.

    Back on the floor this HOT waitress pops her head and Immediately open her. This one is the most receptive of all to my dismay shes super hot but a slut with a sleeve. Shes grabbing my wrist and laughing super hard at my little jokes but Im turned off as I dont want to deal with the sleeved ones.

    My last one I open is one of the tighest in the club probably top 5 immediatley our vibe is good but at this point fatigue hits in (its 2 am) and i literally stopped talking to her out of nowhere. We just left. If I would have seen her earlier it would have been game over as she is immigrant (which is my strongest link) as Im also immigrant and vibe super good with them the whole us vs them thing

    was a good need tons of work on calibrating

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    • In my area (50% Hispanic), you pretty much need to be Hispanic to get with Hispanic women. Some of them like Black guys, others need not apply. At least not until the women have had upwards of 2 kids, gained 60 lbs., gotten on the wrong side of 35 and accumulated several tens of thousands in credit card debt.
      Waitress?
      Do NOT believe even 1 syllable she says that isn’t directly related to your drink purchase.

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    • I just read a Roosh post “Anna” that was a field report with lots of work for only touching. I am guessing, GB, the married chick and her friend had it worked out that you were the married chick’s opportunity. Women allocate out of friendship. You could have enjoyed and played the married chick for social cred with all the other women in eye shot, who would notice and think you were ‘preselected’. (Maybe that is exactly all she wanted with you, but as the end.) Pawning is an efficient and effective use of what’s available socially, even done platonically, even with guys. Just look increasingly popular. Mystery ‘pawns’ people to get to the chick he wants, according to a story in Game by Style. Having a woman pawwing at you and you are not quite won over should trigger the bitch jealousy competitive juices, maybe in someone you want, but not her friend. Make eye contact with other women while with her. You need mad skills to let down the married chick and still raise her status and comfort and get consent from her and her friend. The women are critical safety buddies to each other. First pawn w/o needing to revise a girlfriend buddies relationship as a proven skillset, then add the mad finesse to manipulate social relationships beyond escalation. My two cents. No expert.

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  52. on October 15, 2013 at 2:56 pm vitabenedicta

    This seems to confirm your hypothesis. A study shows that involved fathers have smaller testicles: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265855.php

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  53. Har… Alphaness is proved by getting other men’s wives pregnant.

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  54. Actually having a bunch of offspring is the exact biological definition of alpha male. That is exactly what the term means straight from the primatologists who coined the term.

    Taking a term, padding it up with sociological meaning, and then stripping out the actual scientific or real-world meaning is a very leftist type of project.

    [CH: all sorts of precise scientific terms get repurposed for colloquial usage to accurately describe real world human phenomena.]

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    • Any historical alpha would laugh at ‘alphas’ of today. From tribes in Africa to nomads in the Middle East to European kings to Mongolian warlords, the big man always had his clan of progeny. It was a huge part of who he was and the progeny weren’t a side effect, they were an objective.

      There is ‘repurposing’ and then there is stripping out a core feature. If someone is enough of an alpha, women will want to bear and raise his children and they won’t know why.

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