How Super Alpha Males Are Similar To Hot Babes

Paul Walker recently offed himself in a high speed sports car race. By most accounts, he qualified as a super alpha male: famous (most important factor), good-looking, well-liked, thrill-seeking. He started dating, i.e. fucking, a 16 year old girl when he was 33. They were still a couple seven years later at the time of his death. She is said to be emotionally devastated.

No matter how you bristle at the concept of men being divisible by their sexual market value into gradations of omega, beta and alpha, you’d have to spin some sophistic legerdemain to believe Walker didn’t have way more options with women than the average man with honor and integrity up the wazoo. He may not have availed himself of all the pussy throwing itself at his feet, but he could have if he so wanted. And that’s the critical distinction.

A funny anomaly in the laws of the sexual market occurs when a man reaches the rarified heights of super alphadom. Rules governing human interaction break down and recombine into strange new polarities, nearly the inverse of the laws that regulate most biocommerce between the sexes. The dating market constraints that almost all men must abide don’t act with the same force on super alphas. These few high stakes male winners are so massively pre-selected by literally millions of women fawning over the texture and aroma of their daily dumps that the value these anointed men bring is no longer a function of their ability to attract women. The value of the super alpha male, paradoxically, resembles more the value that very physically attractive and feminine women hold: that is, it’s the value of the scarce resource trying to maintain its scarcity. It’s the value of perceived purity.

A regular reader with a lot of ideas in his head writes,

It doesn’t seem like sex was a big deal to Paul Walker. He was raised Mormon. He had a daughter.

I just don’t get the sense he planned his vacations or nights on the town based on the women he planned on meeting.

As we’re hearing girls confess, Paul Walker could have done anything he wanted to them. Who knows if he did. [ed: if i had to bet…] They’re now saying he should have been praised like Brad Pitt and we know what women thought of Brad in his prime.

Assuming he’s straight, the fewer number of girls Walker banged, the more power he had over them. Some female fans probably waited til his death to speak out because it’s too risky to give a man that looks like him that much power and ego. In that sense, by keeping his sperm to himself he has more in common with a chaste woman than 99.9% of men.

What this reader is hinting at is unattainability. A super alpha is perceived so unattainable by most women (keep in mind that super alpha males are much rarer than very beautiful women) that without some compensating behavior or signal designed to reduce the perception of his unattainability, most women will studiously ignore him to preserve their delicate egos.

An ordinary man who surrounded himself with women festooning him with adulation would incite intrigue and sexualized curiosity in other women on the outside looking in at his social harem. His flirtatious profligacy would elevate his SMV. But a famous super alpha who did the same would merely confirm what most women already suspected about him. He would be playing to type, and in an odd twist of hamsterfied feedback his predictable alpha behavior would rob him of some power over women. Perhaps at the highest levels of womanhood — the HB 9s and 10s — any desire to have a long term relationship with such a man is dampened. His sexually entitled behavior might even create limits on the willingness of more average women to indulge in alphamania.

Like the crooning boy band singer who wails in the fashion of a beta male suffering heartbreak, the famous super alpha who, purposefully or otherwise, plays against type to construct an impression that he’s more attainable (in the way that women prefer, i.e., more open to monogamous commitment) than he really is imparts to himself a degree of power over women that only mighty kings free of legal consequence enjoy. In this sense, the super alpha male is similar to the exquisitely aloof beauty: his perceived chasteness is proof of his high commitment value.





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  1. What’s funny though is if a girl had no idea who he was, she’d treat him like any ordinary prospect. But if someone just whispered into her ear that he’s a famously actor, then the tingles would start flowing.

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    • LOL NO. That guy was perfection. Have you SEEN him?

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      • I looked at Mr. Walker’s attitude on the pics of him they have on Google Images. He has a classic alpha squint and half-smile/smirk, as opposed to a wide-eyed lost-puppy beta look. Note also that betas tend to have either a sadsack look, grin like idiots, or have a weak self-conscious smile.

        If he had a beta twin, I guarantee you that the beta twin would not get nearly as much lamentation from women as Mr. Walker has.

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      • and his beta doppelganger would not be celebrated by women far and wide will banging teens less than half his age. gotta love the ladies, they are as simple and depressing to understand as it gets.

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      • ‘while’ not will. dammit.

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      • Recently somebody [here, or over at iSteve?] linked to the Mike Rowe TED video, from December of 2008:

        A few thoughts:

        1) That was the most profound speech which I’ve heard in public life since Donald Rumsfeld’s known/unknown/unknowns speech.

        2) Rowe is super smart and super funny but his wisecracks were bouncing right off of the TED crowd – he was getting stone cold silence from that roomful of arrogant self-righteous pricks precisely because they knew damned well that he was ridiculing them and their elitist nihilism.

        3) Rowe strikes me as being smart enough and hilarious enough and handsome enough and famous enough to qualify as a super-alpha, but

        4) I can’t find any evidence that Rowe has any wives or ex-wives or legitimate children or bastard children or girlfriends or ex-girlfriends or anything else.

        So either Rowe is a sodomite [which would be a real tragedy], or else he’s living a life remarkably similar to the life which Paul Walker led.

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      • @Shane-

        Thank you for posting that! Mike Rowe is the real deal.

        Did anyone else read his essay on Facebook? If I can find it I’ll post a link. He responded in this same extemporaneous watertight diplomacy to a newspaper journalist (ha) who filed a story about very unpleasant jobs, and wrongly linked it to Rowe and his show.

        Excellent comment too, by the way. Host: My vote for comment of the week. (And it’s only Tuesday.)

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 2:00 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Setting aside Paul Walker himself, Will Powers here has actually got a point. Didn’t CH post a video a while back of some guy who was playing a prank…got his friend to tell a bunch of girls that he was a famous actor. They went from ignoring him to fawning all over him. It was pretty lulzy.

        The thing is, good-looking guys are everywhere. My gym has a good two dozen male 8s and 9s (if we’re going by looks alone) that are there at any given time. This morning, I walked past a guy who could have been a movie star on my way into Starfucks. He was with this woman who was carrying an extra 15 or so lbs on her hips, yacking into her cellphone and totally ignoring him.

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      • Do you live in San Francisco? There aren’t many places that’s a phenomenon (movie star GL guy with average girl).

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      • Any STEM university is like that. Also all of the military academies are like that.

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 7:36 am RappaccinisDaughter

        No…

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      • I remember this from a few years ago-! Very funny. Straight-up thug town indeed.

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 4:04 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        I should add a caveat: good-looking guys abound where I live, but this may not be representative of the norm.

        In fact, it is a double-edged sword. Imagine how difficult it is for me to see so many good-looking guys when the Chateau has taught me that I am, at best, a person with a SMV that is so astronomically low that I cannot dream of pulling any of them for a LTR.

        I am old, I chain-smoke, I drink whiskey, I shoot guns, I have a man-jaw – so, essentially, I am an undesirable shemale with a gigantic clit-dick – and years of spreading my legs to abusive men has cauterized my 3 ungodly orifices to a point where they each have become fetid beyond repair.

        FFS, I even write like a man – CH posted this himself in response to a long insipid off-topic post of mine: “PS The reason I don’t think this is the ORD is that the writing, stylistically as well as substantively, sounds like the voice of a man. But bell curve tails exist to add a little spice to the patterns of life.”

        I guess there is a reason that I can’t get any of the aforementioned good-looking guys, and my sexual fate is relegated to the dregs of society that hit, drug, and rape women. Should I just off myself? Go out in a blaze of fury, like Paul Walker? It’s the closest way I’ll ever be with an alpha male, anyway.

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      • Welp, the dumbass is dead now. At only 40. lol

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      • He’s fried sausage perfection now, honey. Even precious pretty boys die, too.

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      • i submit 5 mins as him equals your best 5 years.

        of course you know it too.

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      • For real… the guy was a thrill seeker, model hot, a celebrity, and rich. Haters gonna hate…

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      • You sound like a fat girl.

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    • Will,

      you are right, a lot of male celebrities have said that it is only once they became famous that hot looking women began throwing themselves at them…even though they looked exactly the same as before they became famous…

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 4:10 pm Pre-Selection Game

      Pre-Selection Game works!

      At bar opening – free drinks – buddy’s girlfriend, an Asian 8 plus, asks me to call her friend, a Latin 7. I hesitate and then say, Latin 7 needs to bring a friend to meet my Buddy desperately in need of a slump buster. And, the Latin 7’s friend needs to be hot… I call the Latin 7 and make my demand. Latin 7 walks in with a Hot 9, shit, but being with a covey of drunken wingmen, we concoct a pre-selection game. Another buddy and I, and the Asian 8 plus, start talking about the “big deal” buddy has closed and how he has made a bundle and … of course the Hot 9 overhears and then immediately hones in on my Buddy.

      Buddy busted his slump!

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      • had a friend in the military, short, bald, not bad looking otherwise, and smart/funny. we would tell the girls ahead of time not to bring up his money (nonexistant) because he’s just tired of girls wanting his money and not him. he is naturally charming to a degree, but it was ridiculous the change that came over them.

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 7:34 pm Hugh G. Rection

        Now that’s good wingmanship right there.

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  2. on December 2, 2013 at 1:26 pm Mitch Cumstein

    Even as a B-list celebrity, Walker could’ve had his pick of the lot. Especially any girl who grew up in the late 90s/ early 2000s. The same women who had pictures of him on their school binders and went silent over the past 15 years are now calling him this generation’s Steve McQueen. Hashtag live fast. Hashtag die young.

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  3. What is fascinating about Paul Walker’s death is a similar parallel outpouring of sympathy and emotion for the death of a local High-Alpha I was friends with.

    Similar to Paul Walker this man did not entertain many women around him, at least openly. However, when they were around they threw themselves at him.

    Then again, when you were the inheritor of an international sports camp empire and your death at 29yo generates Twitter responses from extreme-sports athletes and Olympic Gold-Medalist Gymnasts, and former professional football players and Big 10 Football coaches attend your wedding and funeral, you exist on another level entirely.

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  4. And yet he isn’t here to enjoy it.

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    • better to have lived 1/3 a super alpha’s life than 100 omega male lifetimes.

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      • omega, and even a lot of beta, lifetimes are negatives, miserable, confusing, self-repudiating existences. a day as a self-directed male of any sort beats any of the alternative, being beaten into the ground by reality.

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      • > ” a day as a self-directed male of any sort”

        And The Frankfurt School – via Its puppet, Obama – is doing everything in Its power to wipe the “self-directed male of any sort” right out of the history books.

        The entirety of Obamacare is one grand epic leviathan of an anti-economic holodomor leveled squarely at the “self-directed male of any sort” so as to annihilate him.

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      • It is an astute observation. There are those who hate the thought of people as independent and self-directed, since they are then not directed by the government’s aims. No, more than that – they are too strong, too successful, and they are simply not allowed to be that. Heroes are hated by many.

        You see this in those who hate the thought of people arming themselves. If you arm yourself you seek control of a situation without the help of the state. The hatred aimed at those who are armed for self-defense always amazes me. No, I’m not just talking about guns in the U.S., you see people in Europe furious with hatred at people who simply carry pepper spray. They feel none of that hatred for the mugger or rapist, who is not an ideological threat.

        They much prefer that a woman be raped than she be an independent actor and wound an attacker with a weapon – getting ideas about thinking and acting on her own. When she is raped she is in the System – the police come to write a report that they archive and forget, she gets a hospital visit, a tax-funded session with a rape therapist, pamphlets to tax-funded meetings with other rape victims…. It’s all in the pen. All organized by the State. Who cares then that she will have to live with the memory of the rape for the rest of her life?

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      • > “Who cares then”

        The Left are all nihilists.

        The only thing they “care” about is their own personal infatuation with DEATH.

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      • Arbiter

        There are those who hate the thought of people as independent and self-directed, since they are then not directed by the government’s aims.
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        The truth is, no one really likes people who are independent and self-directed, not even the people on the blog; you are all walking around in drag.

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      • Dude…I mean,I’m sorry…come on,chin up! LOL!

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm Col Nicholson

        “live fast, die young, and have….” I forget the rest.

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      • …leave a beautiful corpse. (James Dean)

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 8:30 pm Col Nicholson

        The line was spoken by John Derek in the 1949 movie “Knock on Any Door.” It ends with “… have a good lookin’ corpse.”

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      • I always thought that idea was really stupid.

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      • “leave a good looking corpse.” Is that what happened to Whitney Houston? As she was laying dead under a sheet one of the investigating dicks,a black man as it happens,lol,looked under the sheet and began talking about how sexy she looked.Another detective,white.made a complaint to the Bev Hills police.

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      • “live fast, die young, and” …leave a beautiful corpse.

        Two out of three isn’t bad. Unless you consider charred bones in ash heaps to possess a kind of macabre beauty.

        [CH: good point. corpses rarely look good, whether wrapped in the cellophane of old age or riddled with the insult of a premature death.]

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      • Even better to live slightly less than 1/3 of a super alpha’s life and then settle down to comfortable retirement / kid raising / something beyond the single man lifestyle.

        Yes there are a lot of risks there. Many can succeed at the first part but not the second, where success is harder to measure but failure can be so bitter.

        PW had a daughter who now has no father. Maybe he didn’t realize in time that he was in a different stage of life.

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      • > “Even better to live slightly less than 1/3 of a super alpha’s life and then settle down to comfortable retirement / kid raising / something beyond the single man lifestyle.”

        If you’re gonna play THE GAME, boy,
        Ya gotta learn to play it right.
        You got to know when to hold ’em,
        Know when to fold ’em,
        Know when to walk away,
        And know when to run…

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      • That’s a good song.

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      • David

        PW had a daughter who now has no father
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        Does this mean she will become a mudshark?

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    • But are you more attracted to the guy who does it?

      Sometimes I think guys sacrifice too much to be “alpha”, for the sake of women. Some women think I really suck because i don’t give them a tingle. Thing is, I don’t give a fuck if they get a tingle or not.

      So I guess they are right, I am an asshole.

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      • > “Thing is, I don’t give a fuck if they get a tingle or not.”

        Strikes me as a two-edged sword.

        That insouciance could be used to effectively to get their hamsters revving – if used correctly.

        On the other hand, if the “ne plus ultra” of Alphadom really is clinically pathological sociopathy*, then the literature [and recent history] indicates that sociopaths are OBSESSED with the impressions which they leave on others.

        They say that Bill Clinton can’t leave a room until he’s satisfied that everyone loves him – if he senses the presence of a doubter, then Clinton will work his way over to that corner of the room and butter up the doubter for hours until he feels that the doubter has been won over, and that it’s finally safe to leave the room.

        Similarly, Barry Soetoro Dunham Marshall Davis Reggie Love actually shooed his [ostensible] wife and his two daughters off of the stage in Chicago, on the night of the 2008 election, before his victory speech, because he knew [or had been warned by Axelrod and the Psychological Warfare Team**] that the family’s presence on the stage would have detracted from the animal-magnetism cult-of-personality which was being nurtured between the Barry Myth and the Koolaid Drinkers.

        At the time, even some libtards were pretty shocked that an American politician would dis his very own flesh and blood that way.

        *As always, an excerpt from the classic text on Sociopathy:

        19. Stanley
        http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

        **The Psychological Warfare Team:

        How Obama Is Using the Science of Change
        http://content.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,1889153,00.html

        Dan Ariely, MIT
        Richard Thaler, Chicago
        Cass Sunstein, Chicago
        Daniel Kahneman, Princeton

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      • Seems to assume that the aforementioned politicians are sociopaths…

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      • No just jooze

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 2:54 pm The Spirit Within

        Interesting that Zombie Shane only uses Dem presidents.

        As though sociopathic tendencies were absent from the White House circa 2000 to 2008. See Cheney, Dick. Or that guy who was doing a heckuva job. Or the Bush’s insistence on starting two wars on a credit card, resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands.

        Lying by omission is still lying. Drink your V-8 and stop using this page to shill for Repugnican propaganda.

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      • Go back to The Forward, you filthy infiltrator Fifth Columnist mother-fucker.

        And take Subway Masturbator and Lilithly and Whiskey and all the rest of Axelrod’s astroturfers with you.

        And don’t forget to set aside some time to shove a side of bacon up your filthy Yid ass.

        Rectal Pork Suppository Game FTW.

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 4:19 pm The Spirit Within

        You’re the reason why William F Buckley had to clean up the Republican Party to begin with.

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      • I’m famous!! Zombie Brain is citing me as a pariah on the Dork Enlightenment: Kick ’em while they’re down, and pat each other on the back.

        I’m going to get every bag lady on the train!!! Fame, sweet fame!

        Never mind me, Zom-bee, remember it’s The Frankfurters! The Frankfurters!!!

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      • “repugnican” ?

        I am sorry you have a speech impediment.

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      • I prefer “rethuglican” Hey they used to be honorable, Ike, and Lincoln.

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      • And the left is still honorable?…

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  5. Life is trade-offs all over the place. Handsome, high status, life in the fast lane….lower probability of making it to 70 +. But lots of tingle smashing.

    He is certainly to be envied in life, although 40 for a man is quite young……

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    • He only has a lower probability of reaching old age if he engages in dumb things like car races. If not he has a higher probability of reaching old age, since he can spend money on making his life as healthy and comfortable as possible

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    • An uber alpha who is still around in his old age is Warren Beatty. Amusingly,he is reported to be freaked out(no pun) over his daughter seeking to have that sex change operation,an adodicktomy. Irony.I guess “she” wopuld have to have preliminary surgery: A gettapussotomy!

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  6. He may not have availed himself of all the pussy throwing itself at his feet, but he could have if he so wanted. And that’s the critical distinction. … Paul Walker could have done anything he wanted to them. Who knows if he did. [ed: if i had to bet…]

    Your entire theory is breaking down, or you are as starstruck as a groupie contemplating Walker’s “superalpha” greatness.

    You reserve automatic suspicion for the average man who does not “avail himself of” pussy simply because it hasn’t been “thrown … at his feet.” You take the rejection of pussy as evidence of betatude. You say, given the opportunity, it is automatic (“if I had to bet,” hint-hint nudge-nudge) that any man will turn himself into a sexual glutton. Because science.

    But now you say “who knows if” Paul Walker did?

    The assumption we are all 15-year-old boys with uncontrollable boners is just tiresome. Paul Walker wasn’t the exception. He was the rule: success breeds ennui. It is only clearer for you to see it in Walker’s case because “literally millions of women [were] fawning” over him, and it would have been physically impossible for this single person to “avail himself” of millions of opportunities. And even in the event he did avail himself of a serious fraction, you have no account for the effects of constant satiation on a man. Except wink-wink lines.

    You are not giving an accurate picture of life at the top. It sounds more and more like wish fulfillment from below. Men with options do not simply debauch themselves, like a rabbit eating itself to death, as men without options imagine they would given the same opportunity. It quickly becomes apparent to those who strive and achieve that the striving is more exhilarating than the partaking.

    Matt

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 2:00 pm on Kings dingaling

      Yes Lord King! Explain to the mere paupers that be how life at the top actually is. I am anticipating anti Kingian remarks will be made. Disciples of our most High Mathew, rally for the defense.

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 2:23 pm The Man Who Was . . .

      Yes, yes, even most apex alphas don’t hit da club every night looking for something new to tap. They prefer to lay back and have a couple of affairs a year with 8+ women like any normal dude would, in addition to their main squeeze.

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      • A simple limiting factor on the number of women an apex alpha will bang over his lifetime is energy level. If you’ve ever gone through a string of flings in a short period of time, you’ll know how quickly the enterprise can wear you down and even make you physically sick. Wilt Chamberlain or Charlie Sheen types who are gifted with either extraordinary immune systems or tolerance for mountains of cocaine are the exceptions that prove the rule.

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 2:40 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        They also have other interests. Once you have slept with a bunch of attractive girls, have a steady 8+ girlfriend, and maybe have something going on the side here and there, why not go parasailing or read a book or build a business. Man does not live by hot babes alone.

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      • of course. if anything, getting one’s sexual desires fulfilled beyond fantasy frees one to pursue the fulfillment of competing desires. but not the urgency. oversexed men tend not to produce much of value from their non-sexual hobbies, b/c the urgency isn’t there. greatness is achieved on the way up, not at the top.

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      • “man does not live by babes alone.” Whatchoo talkin bout Willis???

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      • In a 1999 interview shortly before his death, Chamberlain regretted not having explained the sexual climate at the time of his escapades, and warned other men who admired him for it, closing with the words: “With all of you men out there who think that having a thousand different ladies is pretty cool, I have learned in my life I’ve found out that having one woman a thousand different times is much more satisfying.”

        does dat mean hes beta now

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 2:48 pm The Man Who Was . . .

        Even by the standards of a player, I think it fair to say Will overdid it. Diminishing returns.

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      • dudes will say anything at death’s door. you want to know what a super alpha really thinks? ask him in his prime if he’d give up his lady slaying lifestyle for a thousand gentle missionary positions with one woman. better yet, don’t ask, and just watch what he does.

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      • I think Chuck Negron proves your point. What does a pussy slayer do when the doctor warns him to lay off the pussy before he destroys his penis? He fucks a Miss America contestant, and destroys his penis!

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      • Deathbed testimony is usually accorded more credibility rather than less.

        Wonder what Magic Johnson thinks about it. He’s doing fantastic with HIV but I suppose there’s a regret now and then about having been infected.

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      • He’s doing fantastic with HIV but I suppose there’s a regret now and then about having been infected.
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        Are you sure he’s “infected?”

        Black people have been saying for years that MJ cut a deal with the big pharma to be the spokesperson for HIV drug therapy.

        Look at him now?

        I submit that Magic Johnson has never taken AZT; do you guys realize what it is?

        Its a chain terminator; thats chemo ni66a!

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        AZT, which was developed as a chemotherapeutic agent in 1964 but shelved because of its extreme toxicity, is a DNA chain terminator, which means that it brings DNA synthesis to a halt. It is therefore an extremely efficient cell killer. HIV is a retrotirus, and as such replicates itself by inserting its genes into a cell’s genome so that when the cell divides a new copy of the virus is produced. AZT prevents the replication of HIV by killing infected T-cells; unfortunately, it kills all dividing cells indiscriminately, whether they are infected with a retrovirus or not, and will very quickly decimate even a healthy person’s immune system. AZT’s manufacturer, GlaxoSmith Kline, chose not to comment for this article.
        *************************************

        But how can you oppose this drug when MJ is taking it?

        See what I mean?

        He is 10 times richer and more famous than he could ever acchieve being a basketball player.

        Thanks to HIV, Majic Johnson is now a global ambassador, a head of state; he meets with presidents, kings, queens, popes…

        Think about it?

        *Magic Johnson*

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      • California microbiologist (and Nobel prize winner) Kary Mullis, Ph.D. on whether or not HIV is the probable cause of AIDS.

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      • Indeed, watch what they do. They marry and have kids. See Brad Pitt, Michael Jordan, Mario Lopez.

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      • I have learned in my life I’ve found out that having one woman in a thousand different holes is much more satisfying.

        fixed it

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      • Wilt died at only 63; in fact, I was at his L.A. funeral. The only women I saw there were old black ladies wearing their Sunday best.

        I guess I shouldn’t expect a well-attended funeral, either; the hookers might think its a sting operation.

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      • I just came across Goldmans bio of Lenny Bruce,which I thumbed thru,having read it years ago. Seems near his end he was surrounded by women but they were mainly jewish girls,chunky,well on their way to Catdom. Girls he would hardly have bothered to fuck when he was swinging. One funny note:Goldman quotes Bruce as saying that when he dies his mother Sally will come thru his house with “ten fingers on each hand.” Which she did,and then some. Anti-semite!!!

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    • evidence that those who can do,
      those who can’t teach (questionably)

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    • time for you to start a blog because deaf ears, bro

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    • Matthew, is this supposed to be parody? Because you don’t actually prove or even say anything.

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      • There is nothing to prove, only an antithesis to offer in the general effort to discern truth from the interaction of opposing contentions.

        Anyone who attempts to use this venue to “prove” anything beyond the shadow of a doubt misunderstands the art, purpose, power, and limits of rhetoric. I can only ask you to read more carefully if you think I didn’t say anything.

        CH doesn’t give the complete picture of the man at the top, for whatever reason (some of which I speculate about). The blog host is more promoter than dialectician/inquirer, but that doesn’t mean we can’t fill that latter function. It’s not all absolute fanboys or absolute haters here.

        Sometimes it’s as simple as providing a counterpoint to CH’s hedonism. Sometimes it’s arguing against his attempt to force the linkage of such inherited frivolity to alphadom and now “super” alphadom. It’s one thing to be led down the dead end of mindless nihilism by our education and culture as children; it is something else altogether to actively promote our self-destruction as adults, to call enslavement freedom, and then retreat “poolside” when it comes time to confront those who would eradicate us from the inside.

        You can’t mourn the disintegration of our culture and complain about the sinister buffoons at fault but then unite your personal philosophy to elements of their agenda. Well, I suppose you can do that as much as you want, but I will say something about it.

        Matt

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      • You’re just now figuring that out?

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      • Matt hasn’t smelled fishslot since his rabbi clamped salad thongs around his head.

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      • French being my first language, I am not sure what you mean by fishslot and a Rabbi with salad tongues holding Matt’s head, but it still sounds funny to me!

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      • There was a horrific circumcision that followed the salad thong accident.
        The Rabbis mark their goyim slaves too, ya know.

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      • Arbiter, you only begin to see this now?

        Matt King has already been out’d as an irreligious hypocritical fraud. He writes long-winded contrarian posts that are bombastic: thesaurus-fueled gaudiness on the outside, and emptiness inside. He is a troll.

        See the post by ‘gbfm – reborn’ on the blog post for the most recent Comment of the Week for an in-depth look (also where resident she-male whore RD embarrasses herself by writing off-topic nonsense that stylistically like a man’s authorship):

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/11/28/comment-of-the-week-butt-out-edition/

        And how does Matt King respond? By insulting the opposition with baseless ad-hominem attacks and making fun of people with down’s syndrome. Does that sound like something a genuine religious person would do?

        Quoting Patriarch from the middle of the previous thread about Androgyny, after Matt had embarrassed himself (and subsequently apologized) during a discussion about Nietzsche:

        “Matt king,
        Utter fucking nonsense does not substitute for a post.
        I’ve watched you long enough pollute this board with your pseudo intellectual thesaurus fueled nothingness,
        Like Nicole…
        5000 word essays that mean nothing to anyone here or any other place of any relevancy.
        Like anyone familiar with cold reading,
        Your rants are stocked to the brim with fancy sounding vagueries which can be taken in any direction by anyone at any moment, a clever tactic to fool any would be readers that they’re sitting across from some mysterious deeper meaning if they would but only be able to decipher the wisdom within.
        You’re a goddamned fraud.
        More here are seeing it, slowly day by day.”

        Matt King: fraud, hypocrite, contemptuous of people with down’s syndrome, troll.

        Matt (and RD) have become so pathetic that even their genuine posts parody themselves – because they are such clowns – and people are becoming less and less able to distinguish between the real ones and ‘fake’ ones, even CH himself during the last Comment of the Week.

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    • Unlike your numerous detractors (who apparently are growing as a chorus) I actually understand your point.

      I don’t 100% -agree- with it however. I’ve read quite a bit about this whole thing since it happened and being a bit of a gear head I was familiar with Walker since the first F&F movie.

      Which, tangentially, was one of the best things that ever happened to me. At the time that movie came out I was riding a 1996 Supra Twin Turbo which was the featured car in that film. This become “thee” car to have because you could easily modify its stock turbo to make 400+ whp, or put a single big turbo in it and get up in the 500+ range. The chassis was strong as shit because it was the same one used in the Lexus at that time so the car handled magnificently even with massive upgrades turning it into a space shuttle.

      I sold that car, with +60k miles on it for MORE than I bought it before initially because of that film. *hat tip Paul Walker* RIP

      Back on topic—

      Let me help our dimmer friends that don’t seem to get it with plainer language. Once you reach the stratosphere that the super alpha dwells in, the pursuits of lesser mortals may not interest you whatsoever.

      If I am Achilles, I may get far more out of decimating entire armies than spending each night in the company of a HB10. I may indulge an HB10 every so often, because I still have the baser qualities of lesser men. But what drives me forward is my endless thirst for slaughter.

      There are few men of this caliber left today which is why I think this seems to be a foreign concept to the ever growing ranks of ‘spergy readers here.

      Where I break ranks with you MK, is that Walker was this type of man because he was raised well by all accounts. A genuine “nice guy”, and philanthropist. He was unliked in Hollywood because he wasn’t the typical sniveling suck up weasel and asshole that thrives in that place.

      Had he been raised in a less classic household (he was raised Mormon), he likely would have taken full advantage of his status and would have left a trail of smoking vaginal wreckage in his wake like many of his contemporaries have.

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      • Unlike your numerous detractors (who apparently are growing as a chorus) …

        One troll with twelve identities and an addiction to the “reply” button does not a chorus make. Truth be told, I am more embarrassed by the quality (and quantity) of my opponents than anything.

        Had he been raised in a less classic household (he was raised Mormon), he likely would have taken full advantage of his status and would have left a trail of smoking vaginal wreckage in his wake like many of his contemporaries have.

        100% agreement. How a man is raised is decisive to his fate. Given that we all were marinated in the rancid vinegar of feminism from birth, it may appear to our generation that such nihilism/hedonism is natural according to Darwin.

        Walker is evidence countervailing the theory of inevitable hedonism, which is normally dismissed out of hand as the unreal beta pessimism of someone who “can’t getting any.” That CH embraced an example that goes against PUA doctrine this time is notable. Particularly since there is all kinds of corroborating evidence that the opposite is the case at apex level, should one choose not to deliberately ignore it. And that corroboration can go by the shorthand: the ennui of surfeit.

        CH’s attempt to promote this put-together fellow as yet one more example of superalpha libertinism beggars reality. Rather than noting Walker’s exception to standard alpha dogma, he just doubles down on the dogma with zero supporting evidence and makes claims of what we can’t see (“if I had to bet”).

        A man with Walker’s exceptional virtues — beauty (good-looks), honor (fame), magnanimity (generosity, loyalty) — are a poor example for beta strivers that actually contradicts CH theory of alpha. He didn’t need much game to achieve superalpha, he wasn’t addicted to pussy, and he wasn’t notably vicious.

        Matt

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      • on December 4, 2013 at 6:56 pm The Most Interesting Man in the World

        Matt, there are plenty of people that dislike you and troll you, and some even post on their regular identities (i.e. gbfm, Patriarch, andy, etc.). Sorry to burst your bubble.

        Also, if you look through the content and stylistic differences even among the trolls, they are clearly and distinctively done by different people. But I understand recognizing the truth is hard for you, right religious fraud?

        You are ether hilariously delusional or a total dumbass. Betting on both.

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  7. These few high stakes male winners are so massively pre-selected by literally millions of women fawning over the texture and aroma of their daily dumps that the value these anointed men bring is no longer a function of their ability to attract women. The value of the super alpha male, paradoxically, resembles more the value that very physically attractive and feminine women hold: that is, it’s the value of the scarce resource trying to maintain its scarcity. It’s the value of perceived purity.

    There are a couple of things going on here. The behavioral dynamic you decribe (below the quoted text above) is related to scarcity or unattainability- basically, supply and demand mismatch. But really it’s more like the talent/winner-take-all economy of movie stars, star athletes, blockbuster drugs, etc. -which is well-known and studied. An alpha male, like a HBD10 female, is an intrinisic status related to fame, charisma, looks, wealth, social station, etc. Those intrinsic things may change over time but at any given moment are fixed. The coyness/playing-against-type behavior you describe enhances this “talent” status, but the latter is the core quality. The risk-seeking bahavior- on screen as well as off- was part of that as well, and cuts against the “perceived chasteness” assertion.

    Agree that this dude was not only a famous movie star but strikingly handsome as well- I had barely heard of him, but reading the story and looking at the pics, I get why he was a female obsession.

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  8. on December 2, 2013 at 2:17 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    In this sense, the super alpha male is similar to the exquisitely aloof beauty: his perceived chasteness is proof of his high commitment value

    Three words: Tim Tebow, virgin.

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    • asumking teh cirgin thing was not a publicity shtick, (1) his religious fundamentalism made that a choice, and (2) his 15 minutes passed several years ago. there was a funny onion piece about his current reputation:

      http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-several-nfl-teams-interested-in-tim-tebow-a,33884/

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      • Ouch, I sense the usual leftist hatred of the religious. I’m not religious myself, but I see many behaviors on the Left that are far worse but worshipped by leftists. “his 15 minutes” – couldn’t find anything worse to insult him for? Hmm. Strange, the leftist media hatred aimed at Tim Tebow for praying, but drug-using criminals in Hollywood are praised. For example, Matthew Broderick kills two women with his car? Simply fined $175 for “reckless driving” and released, the media burying the news.

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      • People don’t hate Tim Tebow because he’s religious. They hate him because he’s a crappy QB.

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      • Naïve. Or one more lefty talking-point troll.

        To take one of about fifty examples that immediately come to mind:

        Where is the the hyuk-hyuk Onion story making fun of unemployed JaMarcus Russell who was drafted much higher, was given many more opportunities, never led a last minute comeback much less five or six in a row, and didn’t get his team within sniffing distance of the postseason, nor win a playoff game as Tebow did?

        “He’s a crappy QB” … who won two national championships, set records in passing and rushing, and was the first sophomore ever to win the Heisman trophy.

        Yours is classic alpha envy, fixating on irrelevant foibles and denying reality in a pathetic attempt to cut a superior down to size.

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      • Arbiter,
        What exactly is it about the religious that you find praiseworthy? Is the blantant denial of reality?
        You know why we call them the Cathedral?
        If Tim Teebob is actually the man of faith he portrays, and isn’t just in it for the status,
        Then he’s a fucking idiot.
        A grown man convinced that angels exist.

        The left may be predominantly irreligious, but that doesn’t mean the world is 6000 years old.

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      • Uh oh, Matt disapproves.
        You do not talk about Matts imaginary friends.
        If people found out magic wasn’t real,
        Matt would be just another deluded fool clinging to old wives tales…like sub saharan niggers rolling in chicken blood.

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      • Uh oh, Matt disapproves.
        If people discovered Matts favorite fairy tales were old stories meant to keep women, children, and non alpha males under control, he would be exposed as the deluded fool he is with the comprehension skills of a sub saharan who rolls in chicken blood to ward off evil.

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      • The world is obviously NOT 6000 years old… but that’s not what the Bible claims.

        Interestingly enough, mankind’s ability to farm to the extent that one might mark the beginning of “awareness” in re civilization, IS approximately in that range.

        “And God saw there was no man to till the earth…”

        Besides, a thousand years to man is but a day to God… the term “thousand” is used by many cultures merely to reflect a large number… “a thousand thanks” say the Scandinavians… “a thousand pardons” say the Arabs… etc., etc., etc.

        In short, stop perpetuating misinformation… and if you actually know the truth of the matter, but are snarking disinformation, well… woe to your karma.

        P.S. This is only about the 20th time this has been covered on this very blog over the past few months… it’s getting tiresome having to refute the same old canards week-in/week-out… you guys have to start paying attention, or folks might think you somewhat slow of wit.

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      • Actually here on this site ” The Cathedral” refers to leftism…not religion.

        Things that have a lot of authority – as the left does – can be called a Cathedral.

        The left are the establishment now, they control education, pop culture/entertainment and most of the main stream media.

        When CH uses the word Cathedral, It has nothing to do with Christians, conservatives or religion.

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      • It’s humorous watching you guys defend your favorite religions on a blog that teaching contrary to almost every principle your boly book holds dear.
        CH has mentioned the falsity of religion before and necessarily so. Game theory is dependent on evolutionary psychology, not the ancient ramblings of the authors of your doctrine.

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      • Patriarch,

        I can not reply below, so I’m doing it here.

        I am not defending religion, I am simply saying that when CH uses the word “Cathedral” he means the left.

        Cathedral here at this site usually refers to the powerful authority the left has become which is similar to how powerful the Pope and the Church used to be centuries ago.

        I am not a religious man at all. I do not own a Bible, have never read the Bible, I only step inside churches for Weddings and Funerals and then I always sit in the back as I do not sing or reply or recite prayers, I don’t pray etc etc.

        My comment was about the meaning of “Cathedral ” in this context that is all.

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      • I understood what is meant by cathedral, but CH has written on religion previously.
        Believing in God is a personal thing and I don’t normally get involved in the discussion. Someone shot their mouth off earlier in the thread about unbelievers and it spiraled into a side argument.
        I doubt it could be done in a civil manner but I would like to hear the rationale of those here who mix religion and the dark knowledge as to my reasoning, it cannot be done.

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      • It’s humorous watching you guys defend your favorite religions on a blog that teaching contrary to almost every principle your boly book holds dear.

        What’s humorous is guys like you thinking that this is a dichotomy. You really should read more, if you would comment on these issues.

        Be made wise, my friend:

        From the second chapter of Mark:

        16 And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners? 17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

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      • And the worst thing is … the Frankfurters are in the Cathedral!! Now that is a horrible obscenity. Frankfurters in the Cathedral!!!

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      • When he put his sausage between her buns, she said;

        ” Further! further Frank!.. Frank further! ”

        He relished it.

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      • It’s humorous watching you guys defend your favorite religions on a blog that teaching contrary to almost every principle your boly book holds dear.
        —————————————————————————————————-

        Why do you assume it is an attempt to defend?

        Most people don’t even have a basic understanding of Christianity because they were never really expected to become a Christian, and God forbid, actually use it to do anything of constructive value

        Its no different than game.

        You needed to come to a website to learn game when someone could have simply explained it to you years ago;

        Go ahead and shake your fuckin head ni66er, I’ll wait.

        “either nobody knew, or nobody told me” –Neo

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  9. on December 2, 2013 at 2:19 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    He started dating, i.e. fucking, a 16 year old girl when he was 33. They were still a couple seven years later at the time of his death.

    Please note how a large age gap doesn’t necessarily equal superficial fling.

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    • Dating a sixteen-year-old girl is not something you do because of her life experiences, wisdom and interesting thoughts. You date her because her body is lithe and firm, perky boobs coupled with a youthful face. You have heard of evolutionary psychology, I am sure.

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  10. on December 2, 2013 at 2:32 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    Please also note that the bigger the age gap (and the younger the woman considered as an absolute), the more you need to bring more than just your game to the table. Walker was able to get an 8ish 16 year old in his 30s because he was very good looking and a movie star.

    As you enter your 40s you will need a large amount of some additional quality (looks, fame, insane wealth) in order to get 8+ women under 25, let alone teenagers.

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    • Matthew King this is your territory in Super Alpha Kingdomship. Tell us about your tales about what it is like to have movie star status and be at the top 1% level of all alpha males for all of your fans right here right now. We are working on a new Matt King movie in the works and are looking for some more inspirational stories for the script.

      when pearls are before swine. like a snapper that turns into a cracker.

      dont forget to purchase the new best selling Matthew King autobiography “Pearls Before Swine” now in its 5th printing.

      THE #1 MATTHEW KING FANCUB

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 5:05 pm Carlos Danger

        Subway masturbator, you can go away now. I once gave you the benefit of the doubt, but I’ve concluded you’re really stupid and simply mimicking the banter of your superiors. You’re not fit to wipe Matt’s ass.

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      • It shouldn’t be too hard to locate Matts ass,
        Just aim for the direction of Carlos’ tongue.

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      • Hey you guys I’m here to invite you to the official book signing of Matt King’s personal autobiography “Pearls Before Swine” detailing his rise to the throne for SUPER ALPHA KINGMANSHIP. This book is a must read it has topped best sellers list all around the world and has already been translated into 15 different languages. It has only been released for 6 hours and already a movie deal is in the works with George Lucas. We are projected to exceed Harry Potter book sales this Friday. Matt King will personally read excerpts from the book and there is a 1 in 50 chance of winning Matthew King Super Alpha Male Condoms. There is also a ticket raffle for a chance to have breakfast and to meet the King in the flesh after the signing where he will reveal to one lucky winner the secrets of his journey to the throne.

        When pearls are before swine. Like a snapper that turns into a cracker.

        Don’t forget to purchase the new best selling Matthew King autobiography

        “Pearls Before Swine” now in its 66th printing.

        “Pearls before Swine” where the origins of Matthew King is explored in explicit detail before his rise to the throne. From his dark troubled childhood and neglecting parents…. To his battle with alcoholism and firing from his high school teaching job after three weeks….to the excerpts of his never before seen interviews with his psychologist where he battles his inner demons in public for all to see.

        Chapter 2.

        Shrink: can you tell me about your childhood? any memories at all?

        Matt King: There was this time in church. The elders rounded up the entire church and the believers excommunicated me from my church for heresy and false teachings.

        Shrink: wow. just wow. at the age of eight?

        Matt King: Yes. The church was full of false prophets and I tried to convert the non-believers and naysayers but I was unsuccessful. I still go to that church and I look in from the outside window on Sundays because I’m not welcomed there.

        Shrink: Why do you go there when you aren’t welcome there?

        Matt King: I guess my parents, my mom was cruel and rejecting and I was taught to accept the abuse.

        Shrink: that’s masochistic… *gasp*

        Matt King: I also drank all the wine prepared for the service and ate all the communion crackers before I was excommunicated. It was the first time alcohol ever touched my lips and I got really out of control. I was speaking in tongues in Arabic, Chinese, Spanish and I suffered a seizure. I knocked over some burning candles and a curtain caught on fire. The entire church burned down.

        Shrink: and still you go? and you aren’t allowed back?

        Matt King: …

        Matt King: Yeah…

        SO HOW DOES IT FEEL BEING THE SUPER ALPHA MALE HERE MATTHEW KING. THE BAD DAYS ARE OVER NOW. YOUR KINGDOM REIGNS SUPREME. YOUR MINIONS ARE STILL AWAITING YOUR REPLY. DON’T KEEP US WAITING.

        THE #1 MATTHEW KING FANCLUB

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      • I’ll buy the book, but only if there’s a chapter on Matt’s failed courtship of GeishaKate.

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      • Stilicho.
        When was this? Can you post the link up? We here at the Matt King Archival Society would like to portray Matt King in his stupendous glory in full detail for all to see and experience his mythical ascension to the throne of SUPER ALPHAMALEDOM. He has the strongest touch. When he farts mountains part. Gold falls from the skies when he wakes from his slumber. When he speaks the blind can see again. When he blows his nose the autumn harvest begins. I even heard he turned grape juice into wine.

        Who else can compare when pearls are before swine?

        Not I.

        Not You.

        Not Anyone.

        only

        MATTHEW KING

        THE #1 MATTHEW KING FANCLUB

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      • That’s beneath you, Patriarch… strive to do better.

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      • No it really isn’t beneath me.
        Matt spams this blog non stop
        Pretending his drivel is anything but a cry for popularity. On occassion theres a small amount of something mildy interesting, but even a three legged dog finds crumbs occasionally. His views are appalling supplications to a slave type mentality that go unnoticed by most due to his rich vocabulary. He feeds off of your attention, the alphatude he’ll never attain just off the horizon if he can only get the final word.

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      • Matt doesn’t spam this blog… those who are attempting to ridicule him and what he stands for are the spammers… and tedious ones at that.

        There’s no righteous cause for such ire as your recent posts, for I don’t think you’re of the Satanic ilk which bristles at the mention of Christ.

        Your views on nonreligious issues are otherwise sound… there are other small minds and souls here at the chateau who have it in for Matt and his kind… don’t be their ally.

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      • I try to keep the religious commentary to a minimum out of respect for you, Greg and Corvinus, but it is true I am not religious. Truth be told I don’t hate Matt. There are things about him I disagree with but I do respect him. He’s a tough sonofabitch and he’s brutally honest with me, i like that and I can respect that.

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 4:52 am Carlos Danger

        What a clever boy you are. You apparently have no idea how tedious you sound.

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      • ^^—This.

        I have to admit, it was pretty fucking funny at first and I got some lulz out of it. But now the shit is just tedious and spam for the sake of. It is like Lily has been reincarnated in a diff. body but instead of the J00s its the Christians now that we must spam 3 pages of bullshit on.

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      • Annoying as it may be Jay,
        He’s just calling Matt on his bullshit,
        Something you won’t do for one reason, or another.

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      • Now I’ve got TWO haters, TWO!!! I’m closing in on Miley Cyprus level fame!!! Thank you so much to my agent, my mother, and God.

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    • Isn’t it more about stuff like whether her parents will let her go? Hard to believe that any old movie personality can’t get some 8ish 16 year old who is still going thru teenage identity crises.

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    • Not quite. Girls who are 14-17 are easier because they haven’t yet learned how valuable they are. This is why you can luck into some good pussy while you’re in HS. They don’t know any better. And it’s also why society looks askance at older men who are with teens —- because the game is easier with teenage women.

      Somewhere around 17-ish, women start to catch on, and things change. Like I said, in yesteryear, this is probably the reason women paired off with nice beta schlubs at an early age: they didn’t know any better. It really doesn’t matter what you do tho….if the beta gets to her early, she’ll eventually leave him, make his marriage hell, or cheat on him. If the beta gets to her later….lol….same thing.

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      • check out the big brain on Scray!

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      • I still use that line to this very day. -SUCH- a quotable movie, it is timeless in that way because there are so many good nuggets of wisdom in it.

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      • Yeah but I thought that’s what I just said. If her parents let her go, or she sneaks out, the cockblocks aren’t well in place yet.

        But I think your view of early marriage is colored by our society. In a more traditional society where a 22 year old is an old maid, do you think she’s going to get all high and mighty when she’s 25 and the guy doesn’t give her the same tingles any more? No, she’s supposed to be raising several kids by then and they demand her attention. The thought of breaking up the home would be unacceptable on many levels. She has more to worry about, if the guy is wealthy, that he’ll add a new 16 year old wife to his household. If he’s not wealthy, her alternative options would be pretty grim so she’ll stay put and do her job at home.

        Back in the good old days, as I like to imagine them anyway, dating was a phase that lasted a few years, ended in pairing up, and then it was on to the next stage.

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      • In a more traditional society where a 22 year old is an old maid, do you think she’s going to get all high and mighty when she’s 25 and the guy doesn’t give her the same tingles any more

        What traditional society? Even a hundred years ago women on average had their last child at 42. So, I’m unsure where this ’22 years is an old maid’ stuff came from. When another guy comes along who gives her tingles — ones that, especially in a ‘traditional’ society, she’s probably never felt — ya, she’ll fuck him when she’s 25. She’s still a creature of biology at 25. It’s amazing that on the one hand, commenters here treat women as agents incapable of any logic or rationality, but on the other hand, in this ‘traditional society’ somehow a woman is supposed to logically say ‘hmmmm I am 25, I am an old maid, better ignore these tingles that I’ve never felt before in my life ever!’

        Which is it?

        She doesn’t have to break up the home. She can just fuck the guy. And it’s all in the other man’s hands about breaking up the home. If -he- wants to, she will. If he doesn’t, she won’t.

        And what’s this ‘if the guy is wealthy’ stuff? Most men, historically, have not been wealthy, so let’s avoid talking about that situation.

        Further, let’s think about all the rules and regs feminists want men to follow — and how the actual marketplace fails to reflect those artificial norms. Switch it up! The entire reason there was a commandment against adultery is because adultery existed — and it was enough of a problem to make that big of a deal about. Do you think the existence of a commandment somehow made it less common — or at least, those desires less prevalent? Doubt it. Granted, I think people in the past were less flagrant about it. At the very least they treated the institution of marriage with dignity and society properly viewed adultery as wrong. But let’s say that adultery was less common, maybe because of the shaming and severe punishment — it’s not like that would make the marriage to the beta much better. He’s still not giving her tingles and they aren’t having the kind of sex that I’m sure the beta wants to have.

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      • Girls who are 14-17 are easier because they haven’t yet learned how valuable they are. This is why you can luck into some good pussy while you’re in HS. They don’t know any better.

        You are conveniently leaving out the key element. Not only don’t they “know any better,” they are not sheltered until they do know better/can invest their asset wisely. In the meantime they decrease “how valuable they are” by adopting slut behaviors. The primary responsibility of a father is to educate his girls into understanding their value, and protecting them until they do.

        On the contrary, today girls are thrown to the wolves by perverse beta cuckold-type fathers and moms-who-missed-out, who both live vicariously through their sexy daughters who wouldn’t have given them the time of day when they were in high school. And the age of wolf-throwing (sexualizing) keeps getting younger and younger, into prepubescence.

        This is the key reversion to savagery which begets all the others. And reform begins by overturning the preposterous lie that would have us ignore/deny a teenager’s prime sexual value. Her value doesn’t diminish because an arbitrary line of majority declares it null; it just expresses itself in sublimated and far more destructive ways.

        Considered that way, the ongoing collapse of our civilization can be singularly attributed to feminism’s absurd but successful (!) war on beauty. We begin digging ourselves out of this landfill shitscape by simply declaring beautiful things beautiful again.

        And that is how game will save the West.

        Matt

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    • self limiting beliefs are…..self limiting.

      only one of me for how many hundreds of you gammas? its a hell of a spread.

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    • Based on what I see, when you enter your 30’s, you’re gonna need insane wealth and/or fame to get any non-whale non-freakshow under 50.

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      • Nah brah,
        All those 22 year olds who were unattainable because they like “older guys” are shopping for recent entries to the thirties categories. Hopefully you’ve been hitting the gym.
        I’m 28 and my main girl is hitting 19 in February. They love older guys, the status boost for her is through the roof and the rewards for me ain’t so bad either nawmsayin

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      • Keep believing that, loser.

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      • Sooo…you prefer older chicks?
        Y u no want youngertighterhotter

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      • Wasn’t replying to you.

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  11. I’m so glad someone covered this.

    Paul Walkers death is mentally shocking if only for the reason that it is mourned as a 10-15 year old white, blond-haired, blue-eyed girls death is mourned, as if it’s a national tragedy.

    Women who complain about being judged shallowly on their looks do just as much shallow judging of men. Anyone arguing against this fact cannot explain the outpouring of emotion over Paul’s death. For a man to be mourned, he has to have high SMV, and high potential SMV (or SMV years remaining, if you will). This tells you that SMV does matter to the ladies, and they instinctively know it despite all contrary arguments they try to make. It also explains why young girls are mourned so much, even though their appearances are not fully matured. It is because they are at their absolute peak of total remaining potential SMV. Paul is mourned not so much because he was highly attractive and very alpha now, but because he was young enough that the ladies mourn the current and future loss of his exercising that value. Very young girls are mourned not because they were a potential sex-partner now, but because it’s quite clear they were just about to enter their peak value.

    No one gives a shit about old people who get abducted or murdered, because their SMV and remaining potential SMV is near zero.

    It’s all about SMV, and your SMV remaining.

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    • Paul Walkers death is mentally shocking if only for the reason that it is mourned as a 10-15 year old white, blond-haired, blue-eyed girls death is mourned, as if it’s a national tragedy.

      Nice try, and you’ve tried it before. I assume you are just copying and pasting. When a White woman is gangraped and killed by Blacks the media bury it. When the criminal thief and drug seller Trayvon Martin dies as he tried to smash a man’s head against the pavement, the media make it world news because he was a Black.

      Same with the criminal drug user Rodney King, leading the police on a wild car chase, eventually taunting them and refusing to lie down when ordered so. Hit with nightsticks to make him lie down as the textbook demands, and the police had to hit him again since his drug-soaked brain shut out some of the pain. The media make it huge news. But say nothing about the Whites murdered by Blacks in the Black riots after that.

      When six Whites were murdered by two Blacks released from prison, the three White women raped before the mass murder, the media buried it completely.

      No one believes your lies, “niggah”. At least not those who know the real truth about socialist media bias.

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  12. He was on that phaggy time cuzz, lol
    race in peace, sweet prince

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  13. on December 2, 2013 at 2:39 pm Max from aust

    Life lesson. Never get into a powerful car with a lower HBD driver. They will try and kill you

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  14. Sacrilege time. It’s possible that Paul Walker (and other celebs like Brad Pitt) represent the absolute pinnacle of the greater beta. And no, it’s not their relative chastity that makes it so.

    The vibe Brad Pitt or PW give off is just way different than the vibe a Billy Bob Thornton or Bruce Willis gives off. These other guys have all the external markers of alpha (and maybe the attitude but just for the sake of argument…) .

    Women can settle with and go for these guys based on overwhelming societal encouragement too. It happens. These are the women who get a good looking nice hubby…then years later get caught being raw dogged by the nowhere-near-as-attractive mail man.

    I’m actually moving a little away from the women would fuck therefore alpha definition. Girls don’t always fuck guys based on raw sexual tingles. We know this.

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    • ok….once again, binary thinking has failed you….but its likely a function of your piss porr education. not your fault.

      list to yareally but don’t just hear what he is saying….calibrate, calibrate, calibrate….

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      • relax. you’ll make it one day, bro.

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      • sorry, i forgot you dont get nuance.

        ill dumb it down…which is more alpha, Bruce Willis or Paul Walker?

        you forget that women define alpha as the strongest man they have access to ergo the need to calibrate. the answer is both are, compared to 99.999% of men.

        binary thinking got ya… but hey, can i convince you to do some investing? im putting together an exciting fund for homies of your caliber and you would be purrrrrfect!

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      • How many sets have you cold-approached in your life, faggot?

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      • you’re such a queer

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      • i remember when i had my first beer.

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      • You really missed the entire point of my post. Study my words more closely.

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      • Brad Pitt and Paul Walker are more of the “pretty boy” type than a Bruce Willis “badass” type. To be successful with women, I think the pretty boy type needs the social proof of fame and fan worship much more than the badboy does. Willis seems like a self confident tough guy who would go through life not giving a damn, movie star or not. Brad Pitt is a good looking guy, but he doesn’t exude masculinity. Without fame he’d be pretty ordinary.

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      • I should note though, take my insightful words from a mudshark with a bi-racial family tree that spreads her legs for badboys, thugs, and convicted felons that had served jail time.

        So yeah – I like good-looking men like Paul Walker – but unless they are the equivalent of a Class A felon or above, I won’t even look twice at them.

        Sorry Matt.

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm FuriousFerret

        “Without fame he’d be pretty ordinary.”

        Go home Amy,you’re drunk.

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      • bruce wilis cuz 6th sense is better than f+f movies.

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 8:18 pm Johny Maglusky

      I get what you’re saying. Transplanted into an average schlub body and lifestyles Brad and P. Walker’s personality would be beta and they wouldn’t get laid while Bruce Willis would probably get laid more than the average beta.

      The takeaway is that money,power,fame>> betaness.

      Which is what keeps betas on the trolly track line of thinking “If I keep working my ass off, one day it will pay off, and I’ll be swimming in pussy”. 99% of alphas will never reach that point.

      Exhibit two: Boy band and teen pop stars. All they sing about is beta-ness yet they are desired by millions of girls. When you’re that famous do you DLV day and night and it doesn’t make a difference. It actually works in your favour because it increases your “unattainability” which was described in this post.

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 8:20 pm Johny Maglusky

        corrections
        | 99% of betas

        |When you’re that famous you can DLV all day and night and it doesn’t make a difference.

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      • No it fucking doesn’t. Take any of these stars who are all beta and put a girl who’s at their level of physical attractiveness with them. I guarantee that — even with the fame — a beta is a beta is a beta is a beta and that relationship will flame out. Maybe she’ll stay for the bucks or the cool lifestyle, but her love won’t. Think about celeb wives who are accused of fucking the bodyguard. Or celeb chicks who go for back-up dancers. U must open ur eyes to the world around u.

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      • Hey Scray:

        Aren’t you the short guy who has yet to get laid?

        Six months ago you were a self-admitted snivelling Beta. Now you post here with the frequency of Nicole or Amy, and act as if you are qualified to dispense advice on game.

        I get the whole “irrational exuberance” thing, but it’s starting to wear thin.

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      • Lol relax, dudebro. Jealousy looks bad on you.

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      • Wow, compelling counter-argument by Scray. Stilicho put down truthful points about you, and your retort is putting your fingers in your ears.

        What is he jealous of anyway? That 6 months ago you were a self-described sniveling beta?

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      • sc-gay. lol

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    • just way different than the vibe a Billy Bob Thornton

      You spun me out completely right here and I wasn’t able to read anymore.

      “I LIKE DEM DER FRENCH FRIED PERTATERS, MMMMMM, HMMMMM! I LIKE DE WAY YOU TALK SCRAY, MMMMMM, HMMMMM”

      I’ll pretend I never read that you posted that.

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  15. I agree with CH’s analysis but with a different slant. PW was indeed highly desirable and successful, but he faced constraints like the rest of us. And not just because he put his pants on one leg at a time.

    DESIRABILITY: A man can show more value by creating the impression (true or not) that other women want him. Any woman would have no doubt at least intellectually that tons of women would want PW. He’s indeed above some certain “glass ceiling”.

    The urgency of a woman’s competitive drive increases as it gets more personal. My wife, and probably most women of good mental health (this statement is agnostic regarding my wife’s mental health) won’t get too worried that there is a super hot guy in the world who is not theirs. Now if they meet him in person along with his trophy wife, then the hamster will wake up a bit, but at a distance this DHV factor is of finite and limited magnitude.

    PURITY: Offsetting that is the purity constraint. One lowers one’s value by acting like a slut, less so for guys, but still there should be more of a meaning to life than exploring the pussy panorama. Someone like PW comes up against this constraint and if his pushes his sexual desirability factor too hard, he’ll reduce his purity factor.

    CONSTRAINED OPTIMIZATION: A similar problem in economics is when a monopolist has to decide how much of his product to make, knowing that the more he sells the lower the market price per unit will be. Since factors are multiplied together, we see that there’s some “happy medium”.

    It’s a problem that we old conventional guys can experience to a vastly diminished but not necessarily less satisfying degree. PW was such a hot commodity that he had to stay far away from women, lest they go nuts and create lots of inconvenience. I find that I have higher SMV as a married man than I did when single, but I am not sure it would endure if I were caught fucking the wife of another man in my social circle. I would then be dirty, which to some women is worse than being another old married guy. As a boring married guy I get invited to regular parties every year. As a dirty guy I might not.

    This smugness of mine causes some left-wingers to call me an asshole and worse. I’m also David in this thread, they got really mad! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/26/the-hobby-lobby-lawsuit-is-a-trojan-horse/

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    • nah, your value is driven by the last transaction which in your case was funded by you.

      your actual “cash” value is like that of California raw land in 2009…….nominally zero.

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      • nah to what?

        You’re right, I am living off my last major transaction. My kids benefit thereby from having a stable home. I’m not sure what you mean by cash value.

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      • His ass hasn’t caught up with all the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. Don’t mind Tilikum, David. I understand his style. He waits on the sidelines for guys to comment and then he will come in with some ultra high and mighty keyboard jockey alpha bullshit.

        We’re going to start ignoring him soon.

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      • Sometimes his stuff seems right on, but maybe that’s just from a distance. Up close I realized I didn’t know what he meant.

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      • He had his head up his ass at first, at least it seemed that way, but he is sounding much more coherent so maybe he kicked that terrible crack habit in the last month? Dunno, but lately I find myself more in agreement than disagreement. *shrug*

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      • beta sycophants gonna sycophant

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      • you can’t know your real value until you attempt a new sale. you are paying for the privilege of having the value you ascribe to yourself. it doesn’t matter though, as you have cashed in your chips and i say good for you. just don’t let how YOU perceive your value and how SHE (or other women, same thing) perceives your value to slip.

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  16. This theorizing is actually wrong. He did not follow the Mormon practices when he reached adulthood. He refused to marry his first baby mama because he knew he was a cad and wouldn’t be able to commit to marriage. By 33 he might have had his fill and settled down, or he might have enjoyed a relationship with the 16-year old where he gets to sleep around, like many NBA stars had

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516483/Paul-Walkers-long-term-girlfriend-broken-stars-tragic-death-teenage-daughter-struggles-cope-horrible-news.html

    “Walker, now 40, was raised a Mormon in a working class California family, but his good looks – he was once described as a ‘young Steve McQueen’ – meant he was never lacking female attention.

    He also strayed from the family values his parents instilled in him and when he was 18 faced a felony charge though he has never revealed what it was. The case was reduced to a misdemeanor.

    When Rebecca got pregnant Walker was 25 but he refused to marry her, claiming that he was not mature enough even though it left him feeling like an ‘evil SOB’.”

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  17. Paul Walker was a cad after all.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2516483/Paul-Walkers-long-term-girlfriend-broken-stars-tragic-death-teenage-daughter-struggles-cope-horrible-news.html

    “Walker, now 40, was raised a Mormon in a working class California family, but his good looks – he was once described as a ‘young Steve McQueen’ – meant he was never lacking female attention.

    He also strayed from the family values his parents instilled in him and when he was 18 faced a felony charge though he has never revealed what it was. The case was reduced to a misdemeanor.

    When Rebecca got pregnant Walker was 25 but he refused to marry her, claiming that he was not mature enough even though it left him feeling like an ‘evil SOB’.”

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    • That girl at first looks like a fake hippie college book worm, then you see the pronounced chin. Aroooga, horny manjaw alert! Wonder how they met.

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  18. He may have been an alpha male, but apparently he wasn’t that bright. He hired an ex-race car driver from El Salvador as his “financial adviser”. The financial adviser was the one driving in the crash that killed him.

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

      get Zombie Shane’s advice about which tribe from which, to choose your financial adviser from…..

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    • And to think our airlines send their planes down to El Salvador for maintenance…

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    • He wasn’t just an ex race car driver that Paul hired as his financial adviser. He was an ex race car driver with a degree in finance that Paul hired as his financial adviser.

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    • His financial advisor studied at the University of Pennsylvania. Just so you know.

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  19. on December 2, 2013 at 3:17 pm Lucky White Male

    Good article from Roosh today

    http://www.rooshv.com/the-rise-of-heterophobia?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    What does a soft genocide look like?

    Part of the strategy is to make the idea of White Males procreating and breeding un-normative and abnormal. The Cathedral hates heterosexuality because it leads to white Gentiles breeding

    I don’t hear Rabbis telling the Temple on Saturday that traditional families are abnormal. Why?

    I was at a Jewish funeral recently. An elderly mother had passed. One of her sons was gay and wanted to stand in the front row with his gay Puerto Rican partner and husband

    The Rabbi would not allow it, saying it was against Talmudic law

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    • That rabbi was determined to be the only dicksucker up front eh?

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    • “saying it was against Talmudic law”

      because it is. just is.

      most religions ban or prohibit homosexuals. In Islam for example it is a crime, punishment = death if that tells you something…

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    • That’s because Rabbi’s are THE boss of who goes to paradise; and in certain parts of the country, they’re also almost the Jewish equivalent of a mafia don.

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    • Roosh is an idiot who can’t get women in the U.S., so he goes to Third-World countries where he hopes to get some of them with money. Then gets some money by selling books to losers who like to read that it’s not their fault they can’t get laid, it’s the fault of evil American women.

      Plus, Roosh is ugly as hell and he reeks of sweat. By his own admission the sweat flows like rivers from his armpits. He has to douse them in baking soda and medical-grade alcohol every day to get just a few hours of halt in the flow. Then he claims that women won’t be with him because American women are spoiled and rotten. What an idiot. So is anyone who listens to him, nodding at his “insights” that soothe their egos.

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    • Yes, and yet… Roosh will only step juuuuuust far enough into the dialog when his discomfort sets in. He will not just come out and say that it is White Males and anything they stand for that are being grinded into gristle. Fuck that guy, until he becomes a true “realtalkerati” (props CH) not some side-line cheerleader.

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    • Do YOU think “the idea of White Males procreating and breeding” is “un-normative and abnormal.”

      It’s not other people’s fault that whiteykins don’t want kids.
      No one’s stopping you.

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  20. on December 2, 2013 at 3:35 pm brookingstyler

    I’d like to see an expose on this: Women are drawn to famous or powerful men and will claim “it’s the artist in him that I love.” My take is more cynical. Vincent van gogh would never have a bevy of chicks around simply because he was an oddball who was not famous. Woody Allen, on the other hand, gets MIa Farrow.

    Then there are complete washouts like Kato Cailin sp?, who are famous for nothing more than association. He’s basically a male Kim Kardashian without money or tv show or cosmetic surgery. I’ll bet if Kato and Vincent were together, you’d see a bunch of swooners for the former vs the latter. They are every bit as shallow as men.

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  21. He started dating, i.e. fucking, a 16 year old girl when he was 33. They were still a couple seven years later at the time of his death.

    She must have amazing looks and BJ skills to retain a guy with so many options for so long. I hope he fucked around of her; otherwise wasting his inmense alpha capital on one chick for seven years deserves eternity in the mormon section of hell.

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  22. I particularly enjoyed your writing on this one,CH.

    At times you sounded like you were discussing particle physics.

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  23. “proof of his high commitment value.”

    These are some very wise words. Nice one CH!

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  24. “What this reader is hinting at is unattainability. A super alpha is perceived so unattainable by most women (keep in mind that super alpha males are much rarer than very beautiful women) that without some compensating behavior or signal designed to reduce the perception of his unattainability, most women will studiously ignore him to preserve their delicate egos.”

    Cue thousands of beta / delta / omega malerationalizationhamsters: “She’s ignoring me, therefore I am a Super Alpha.”

    Gotta watch out on the nuances of the messaging there, we don’t want to confuse the boys.

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    • No … BUT

      By being a super alpha movie star, you might not get results much better than those attainable by a beta with the same amount of money. He had a 20-something gf who he may have been monogamous with and had a child with. He crashed in a sports car accident. This is all achievable by mere mortals with money.

      Other constraints come into play, like purity. Also time and energy, presumably his ultra successful career involved some ongoing effort and attention on his part.

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  25. The biggest way in which an “alpha” man and a woman, and a hot one particularly, are similar, is that both have a “dark triad”-oriented personality.

    That’s the thing that CH hints often at (I remember CH describing female sexuality as “demonic”) but does not quite get out: that “alpha” men are attractive to women because women tend to have “dark triad” traits themselves.

    Apart from being attracted to “dark triad” personalities, average women despise “betas” because the latter, being average men and thus significantly less sociopathic than average women, seem to average women as being weak and soft (when instead they are just team players). For women “betas” are prey (“beta bucks”), and predators may play with their “food”, but not fuck it, and certainly not “respect” it.

    Average women are more sociopathic than average men, and are only sexually attracted to men that are at least as sociopathic as they are, or somewhat more (and many are attracted also to much bigger psychopaths than themselves).

    “Game” is largely a technique to increase an average man’s sociopathic attitudes, at least during “dating”, so that he may get laid with average women…

    The delightful SMV chart by The Private Man:

    http://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/can-i-get-him-to-commit-breaking-it-down/

    can be interpreted in level of sociopathy, shifted by one: average women are one “level” of sociopathy higher than average men, and can only tolerate men at the same level of sociopathy, or ideally a man another level of sociopathy up.

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    • ‘Apart from being attracted to “dark triad” personalities, average women despise “betas” because the latter, being average men and thus significantly less sociopathic than average women, seem to average women as being weak and soft (when instead they are just team players). For women “betas” are prey (“beta bucks”), and predators may play with their “food”, but not fuck it, and certainly not “respect” it.’

      What we have here is you rationalizing weakness — i.e. a beta male’s failure to set and enforce boundaries and his inability to exert control over his environment because he’s too focused on avoiding conflict. You say that they are just ‘team players.’ Bullshit. They’re pussies. For women, betas are other women. And ya, it’s hard to respect a ‘team player.’

      What kind of boss do you want to work for? A fucking asshole who gets results or the nicest cool guy in the world who will run the business into the ground? (Yes there are more types of bosses, but given this choice…) I honestly think men have to start finding ways to approximate how a woman thinks.

      And what does this mean? Well, heavy weighs the crown. People will challenge you more. You will be tested. There will be periods of peace and periods of strife. And ultimately, it gives life more meaning because you have no choice but to strive.

      All of my relationships have been impacted a lot by this self-improvement. Even those with my parents.

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      • you gotta stop talking.

        “What we have here is you rationalizing weakness — i.e. a beta male’s failure to set and enforce boundaries and his inability to exert control over his environment because he’s too focused on avoiding conflict. You say that they are just ‘team players.’ Bullshit. They’re pussies. For women, betas are other women. And ya, it’s hard to respect a ‘team player.’”

        christ brother, you aren’t getting it and your wild assertions based on absolutely zero philosophy ain’t getting it either. betas aren’t other women…they are sexless, invisible, and genderless service drones. women are both distinguishable and inherently more valuable to other women than betas and less. how have you missed this? you sem smart just blinded by anger or???

        less tactics and more strategy, or just stop giving advice anyway because you look foolish not for asking questions but because the ones you ask are adolescent at the very best.

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      • nah, when you grow up one day you will realize why you feel that betas are ‘ sexless, invisible, and genderless service drones.’ Men feel this way when they invest ANYTHING into a woman and fail to find reciprocation in the form of sex — which is the essential validation a man desires from a woman. So, when a woman treats a man like another woman, the man feels this way. Other men view the relationship in this way.

        Notice, how I approached it from the viewpoint of a woman — for women betas are…. you, on the other hand, described positive reality as you see it.

        Women treat betas pleasantly enough, and they view them as equal value — hence friend zone, no sex. Women view omegas with contempt — hence not even friend zone.

        It’s cool bro, I got it. You’re still figuring things out. Go out more.

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      • Scray,
        I get what you’re trying to say but women do not believe in equality, unless of course the equality brings down the smv of others to dissipate any advantage held over said woman.
        They’re opportunists first,
        And philosophers as the occasion needs.

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      • Oh they believe in equality. They just aren’t attracted to equality. You don’t want to work for a peer. Everyone should just refer to my analogy about the boss.

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      • you have to forgive the poor boy. there are many with deep philosophy like Matt, and there are few with great tactical skill like Ya. but rarely do they meet and he is a prime example.

        Scray is a tactical sycophant in that he knows it works, but being new to the game is having a tough time integrating and reconciling the philosophical emptiness that is manifested as this cold hollowness in the pit of his belly.

        if you ever read Col. Grossmans book “On Killing”, the bell curve is strikingly similar. Scray is at the end of the “overconfident” phase and entering the “combat ineffectiveness” phase like we all do. Brain on overload, stakes are high, and his relative tactical success has led him to believe that he has also found a philosophy in his head that resembles the truth on the ground.

        this is actually where he becomes the prey that we all know he is and not the predator he thinks he is.

        a precarious time in a young boys life

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      • Women are incapable of the reasoning necessary to understand a concept like equality.
        They do however understand that it is one of the herds current buzzwords and react accordingly, using it to accomplish their goals.
        Never underestimate a womans selfishness, irrationality, or capacity for bullshit and lies.

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      • don’t bother. he’s stuck in a philosophical black hole right now trying to convince himself that his momma ain’t a whore too. that’s why the fresh fish need some time to come up to speed….it hurts!

        i prescribe a bit more Rollo.

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      • Equality, if we are talking about (because that’s what I was talking about above) a man with equal SMV value to a woman, does not equal a woman having to sleep with a man because of equity. Women day-to-day treat betas like equals — like women.

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      • you seem very interested in me personally, T.

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      • @Tillikum: “Scray is at the end of the “overconfident” phase and entering the “combat ineffectiveness” phase like we all do”

        Agreed.

        It is a very natural trait for men to get in the avoid-conflict-habit and act more like traffic-cops because of the greater-than-hairpulling-catfight consequences it carries.

        We do this all the time, and it is the central point of contention in the book, “No More Mr. Nice Guy”, by Robert Glover.

        It’s a by-product of being civilized and mistakenly equalist. But it’s got absolutely nothing to do with proving one’s manhood to ghetto scum who have nothing to lose. -And every physical altercation comes down to which insecure guy has less to lose.

        .
        +What you refer to is also what one of my martial arts teachers warned the jumped-up newbies & first-belters about.

        He’d say something like, “So you’ve been here long enough to pass your first one or two tests. You now know enough to be both a danger to others and to yourself.”

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      • Tilikum no one gives a flying fuck what you say bro. constantly piggybacking other comments. you’re like a heterosexual matthew king

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      • Really glad to see you guys droppin’ wisdom. Still making approaches, still pushing boundaries… albeit slowly 😛

        I approach daily now. The spring season is definitely looking brighter 🙂

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 7:34 pm immoralgables

        Oh man Hunter. Glad to hear from you bro.

        How has everything been. I just shook my head and smiled when I read your last FR with the stripper (I think) that you went back to her hotel.

        Keep up the good work. I’ve toned down my night gaming (and game-y-ness) in general and am tryng to be a bit more authentic and improve other areas of my life as well.

        Even then, I’ve been doing a Daygame Accountability Challenge with a good friend and we just do 2 day-game approaches a day just to keep the knives sharp. None of that “Hey what time is it?” shit either.

        Anywho, you may take a break at some point if you feel like you’ve neglected other areas of your life. Totally understandable. The field fixes you yeah? It can also fuck you up when you’re okay with being vert out of shape because you got the balls to approach hotties in broad daylight and they’re coming to meet up with you on Day 2s because they need to know who the fuck you are.

        Keep us posted on the journey I love reading about what you’ve been up to. And one when the time comes for you to take a step back and catch a breath, it’ll be all good homie.

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      • *very out of shape

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      • ya you’ll be getting that puss pretty soon man. Good to hear you’re sticking with it. That’s all you have to do

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      • @Immoralgables @Scray thanks for the encouragement guys! (left a longer comment earlier, got eaten up)

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      • “*very out of shape”

        How cute, she’s seeking approval from the readership by correcting her typos.

        fag

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      • Get off my dick. You sound like AVD and are actling like him too.

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      • Tilikum,
        Holy shit dude,
        I did read that book.
        I never even thought to apply it to the process of personal game development.
        You know Scray, for all the fighting and what not you do with Tilikum, he’s trying to help you.

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      • im trying to help him too. we’re just great for each other

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      • Alright. As long as we can fight and stay civil.

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      • i don’t care how much relief your trollish clickety clack toenails provide my sweaty balls, thats not the kinda help i need 😛

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      • …kind of a very specific image for you to be in denial about but ok 🙂

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    • precisely.

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    • Did Paul Walker exhibit dark triad traits?

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  26. I remember an old interview he did where he said he tells girls he’s shorter than he is and his dick is smaller than it is so they sy he’s taller and his dick is bigger. He definitely.understood misidrection and reverse psychology.

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  27. Many women – even stunningly hot women – who have that nagging thought of what it would be like to be with an A-list alpha movie star (and most do), will also project that fantasy onto their partner. “If I’m thinking about the movie star, he might be thinking about the slimmer, younger, hotter woman down the street…” This is what keeps their feet firmly planted on the ground in an LTR.

    Female projection isn’t always a bad thing.

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    • Dread game is necessary for those frequent moments of raw selfishness that females experience. Maybe I should be talking in continuous units of time rather than discrete ones. If she plays the dread game on herself, fine.

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    • ok well if female solipsism is as bad as you guys think, then how the fuck would ““If I’m thinking about the movie star, he might be thinking about the slimmer, younger, hotter woman down the street…” thought process even happen? lol.

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      • Because that thought is beneficial to the solipsism.
        Nobody ever said the pretty little monsters aren’t crafty.
        Never turn your back on one.
        There’s a reason you don’t fall asleep around her post argument sneaky ass.

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  28. ronin wrote:
    “I particularly enjoyed your writing on this one,CH.

    At times you sounded like you were discussing particle physics.”

    I got some of that impression, too. Like I was reading something on space curvature.

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  29. Schadenfreude…….THAT is what the omegas are feeling now since the news…….

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  30. Mentioning fame. I was out and about with a famous man this last week, I would say that fame is such a DHV, that overgaming is more of a risk than gaming at all. Basically, he needed no game to get women to come over and if he had tryed to game them, I think that would have scared them off. I basically sat there and agreed with him at every turn and let him steer the ship.

    But on the other hand I have used game and seen game used on women who have famous boyfriends.

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  31. a fun one for demographics and looking into our future

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/27/world/asia/with-glut-of-lonely-men-china-has-an-approved-outlet-for-unrequited-lust.html

    118 men for 100 women… and then top it off that chinese men are about as sought after as the herp, well it ain’t going to be pretty.

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    • Some of us expect China to stop being insular and join some wars to get that male population down. But I’ve been expecting it for 20 years so far on the same logic …

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      • India has the same problem. Maybe India and China could get into a World War I type of fight like Iran and Iraq did in the 1980s.

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  32. Just a little back of the napkin math…

    On fame vs. looks, maybe at any given time in the USA roughly 1 out of 150,000 men in the USA can be famous (although we can argue what constitutes real fame) yet 20% of men are good looking or 30,000 men per 150,000 men. But yes, fame is more powerful.

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  33. There is a lot butthurt about his relationship with a 16 year old, mostly from ladies but from some men, probably fathers, too. Let’s look at this: she was 16 and living in an era where most girls that age have taken a slew of cocks. Even if she wasn’t among them, nobody (her parents and christians excepted) would be concerned about a 16-year-old losing her virginity. Apparently, however, the age of the cock inside her is of crucial importance. An 18-year-old one is fine; a 33-year-old one is not. What difference does it make, though? She is equally fucked in both cases. Will an 18-year-old cock spurt a stream of roses into her soul and transform it into a magical garden? She is either ready for dicks or she ain’t.

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 6:32 pm Captain Schlamered

      Well mine shoots out the magic cure, and a full dose of Act Right.

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    • Not just that, but an older guy (that society excoriates for no reason) is more likely to commit to her, than a HS boy who is less likely to offer her the same kind of maturity, stability, and commitment. As CH wrote himself before, the thought processes that allow a girl to consent to a guy that is 15 years old are the same as the ones that would let her consent to a guy of an older age.

      It is well-known that AOC laws (especially in the US) are BS, anti-scientific, and usually enforced with vagaries and mercurial notions of right/wrong.
      The real question is what to do about it.

      In the old days, marrying off a 13-14 year old to an older guy with his own farm/job was the norm. But of course “modern” society tries to subvert centuries of biological science and evolutionary capacities.

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  34. on December 2, 2013 at 5:17 pm Mitch Cumstein

    I found it interesting that Doug Hutchinson, from “Lost” and “The Green Mile” practically lost his career for marrying a 16 year old. I didn’t know about Walker dating a teenager until he died. Was he exempt from the criticism because he is a super alpha?

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    • The criticism is nothing but vitriol from feminists and white knighters.

      16 year old girls are fine for older men – it is only in recent history that this has been an issue. 16 year old men used to fight in wars as officers and 16 year old women were married and probably had a baby with a man much older.

      Young people today are impaired and stunted by modern culture, education and being coddled as ‘kids’ even as they leave for college and are legal adults.

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    • The gap was tremendous man. He was 51 she was 16. I’m all about teenage twat, but that is pushing up into creeper territory. 33 – 16 is a much diff. animal.

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      • I don’t really see the difference between 33 and 51- both of them are distinctly ‘much older’. And I don’t see why a 33 y/o dating an 18 y/o, say, is worse than 51 and 18.

        16 is a different story, and I tend to think 16 year olds shouldn’t be fucking anyone, whether it’s another teenager or an older man. But, it’s legal in some states, at least, so it’s a bit more of a gray area. Still, it’s best to wait the two years till everyone’s legal.

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  35. A regular reader with a lot of ideas in his head writes,
    “It doesn’t seem like sex was a big deal to Paul Walker. He was raised Mormon. He had a daughter.

    I just don’t get the sense he planned his vacations or nights on the town based on the women he planned on meeting.”

    Wrong. Walker was a player. He wasn’t an involved father until 2011. Though he had a steady girlfriend for the past 7 years, I doubt she was his only sex partner for the past 7 years.

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/12/01/the-sides-of-paul-walker-you-may-have-missed/
    Walker became a father by accident when he was 25 years old, just before his career was about to take off, when he found out that then-girlfriend Rebecca McBrain was pregnant. “It was tough. I went to Christian high school, and I was told Mom and Dad were supposed to be together,” he told WENN recently. “I knew where I was at with chicks and having fun. I mean, I was sleeping with her friends, for crying out loud. You know what I mean? I was an animal.”

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  36. off topic.

    craigslist missed connections is like an alpha widow graveyard and a beta confessional all in one.

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  37. Who the F is Paul Walker!? I honestly never knew who he was and still don’t until a friend explained to me via Facebook just hours ago. I hate Fast and Furious (never watched it or them).

    Anyway, props to the Alpha.

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  38. Don’t think I knew who Paul Walker was until he did a James Dean.
    Either way, you guys are reading WAY too much into this.
    Very good-looking guy, probably tall, famous/rich = LOTS AND LOTS of chicks.
    That simple.

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    • Indeed, no need to shoe horn dorky theories into the painfully obvious. This is not a case of rocket surgery.

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  39. @immoralgables yeah dude things have been just okay. I’ve been going out with a wing who honestly has been getting on my nerves as of late… but mostly because whenever we go out together he doesn’t do anything… but then I don’t do anything as a result… and the truth his inaction reflects my inaction and I’m just mad at myself because we both don’t want to take the lead and make the first move. I realized this negative thought loop and took action. Tried to get him to do shit, but he kept complaining… (last weekend).

    I think I’m going to have to go out solo, or at least stop relying on him because he’s not really… I dunno I feel like my progress was much faster with my other newbie pua friend, cuz everything is so new for us. My current wing did this for a year already and then took a break. Now he’s getting back into it, but he keeps complaining about how good he used to be and it’s holding me back (or rather, I’m letting him hold me back). My newbie pua friend is in Canada right now, so can’t really be helped.

    All of my approaches are street ones.Today I just opened, asked one girl for a kiss, she laughed and moved away, diverted eye contact. The other 4 I just made small talk. I’m just getting tired of telling them they’re cute, I want to show intent. Obviously working on calibrating it, but I want to start getting shit-tested more by girls so I can get the hotties 8+. Really took this post to heart:

    http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/11/#comment-heartiste-496415

    Also feeds into my goal for the month (been setting up monthly goals for myself since October).

    It’s great you’re still approaching. Still sharpening the blade… at least you’re getting laid lol… still working on that myself.

    I don’t think I can afford to take a break now lol I still suck. Although I’m definitely much more normal than before.

    P.S. You guys shared some really great text advice in these last few posts. VERY JEALOUS of you guys lol still suck at texting. Whatever, I’ll work on it 🙂 Thanks for the encouragement! I’m heading out tonight (hopefully this OTHER dude doesn’t flake) gonna just do my duty and have a good time.

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    • ‘I think I’m going to have to go out solo, or at least stop relying on him because he’s not really… I dunno I feel like my progress was much faster with my other newbie pua friend, cuz everything is so new for us’

      Going out solo is difficult for sure, but it’s usually worth it. I’d actually recommend going out solo AFTER you get a few reference experiences. Now I can go out solo no problem, but months ago it was very very hard. Like a REALLY BIG DEAL. But once you live life a bit, it’s really nothing.

      Really…..it’s kind of like the Yareally shit on girl’s chest reference experience. I mean, once a hot quality girl is moved enough by the spirit to do let you do that or toss your salad or just do any insane cray thing….it will just change you. You will have witnessed the power of game. You will just know that you have taken her past a rubicon she has never crossed before — or at the very least, crossed few, few times — in her life. You will know that the men who came before you were but babes with wood and that you have turned her into a woman. Deflowering her heart, so to speak.

      And you won’t even need to ask after a certain point. I know the men on here are like ‘ya all girls lie.’ Maybe so, if you ask. But….you’ll just know. Trust me. So, I’d recommend going after an experience like that. You just need a few. And your inner game starts ascending like crazy.

      ‘ I’m just getting tired of telling them they’re cute, I want to show intent. Obviously working on calibrating it, but I want to start getting shit-tested more by girls so I can get the hotties 8+’

      My advice is to get your high volume approaches in at night. You can try anything you want. You’re a mad scientist in a laboratory! Seriously. You can get away with more, you can get a little looser, and you can push boundaries.

      Daygame is its own animal. I discovered this fairly recently when me and my bro sarged the mall for funsies. Pros: once they hook, you can probably fuck them. Cons: lol hook them? I don’t know much about it. It seems like a slower paced version of night game.

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  40. No classic films under his belt, no super model crammings a la Lucky Leo, died at the hands of a mestizo behind the wheel. No true impact as an artist, businessman, or thinker. The ancient Greeks thought of one’s impact on the world, upon his demise, was based on how long his name was spoken after he had shuffled off this earthly plane. No one will remember Mr. Walker 15 minutes from now.

    He was a handsome, statutory-rapey B-list celebrity, cut down before his time. Super-Alpha? In the immortal words of Winston Wolf: Let’s not start sucking each others dicks just yet.

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    • on December 2, 2013 at 9:52 pm FuriousFerret

      “He was a handsome, statutory-rapey B-list celebrity, cut down before his time. Super-Alpha?”

      Yes. Super Alpha is the correct term. You want to know why? Because alpha means man that women want to and will fuck. Adding the adjective of Super makes sense in the context of Walker in that millions of hot women would fuck him in a New York minute’s notice.

      In CH, it’s very simple. Alpha = man that gets multiple amounts of hot pussy or can if he wants to, Beta = man that doesn’t get ass. If you are the biggest flaming skinny effeminate nasal voiced geek but somehow someway you make women wet and they fuck you, then you’re an alpha no questions asked. Conversely, if you are 6’4, built like a Greek Adonis with the athleticism of Clay Matthews and have the conversational wit of Robert Downey Jr and the face of Brad Pitt yet women won’t fuck you for some reason then you’re a beta.

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      • Thanks for the clarification. But for my own edification, is the alpha-male designation only confined to smashing high quality poon? For example, Beethoven never got laid, but he might be have been the greatest artist in human history. Does the Eorica Symphony make him an alpha or does his lack of pussy make him a beta? Is there some equilibrium where pussy meets great deeds? Is getting laid by 9s and 10s on the reg a superior aspiration to changing the course of human history. Can these aims be one in the same?

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      • ” is the alpha-male designation only confined to smashing high quality poon?”

        Yes.

        “For example, Beethoven never got laid, but he might be have been the greatest artist in human history.”

        I guess he’s was an Omega male then.

        “Is there some equilibrium where pussy meets great deeds?”

        For the designation of being an alpha, it’s when great deeds beget great pussy.

        “Is getting laid by 9s and 10s on the reg a superior aspiration to changing the course of human history.”

        Has nothing to do with being socio-sexual alpha.

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      • Beethoven was an omega male then, ho hum. This is the kind of thinking that will keep the broader philosophical implications of game from going mainstream. You sound like retards.

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      • on December 2, 2013 at 11:05 pm Hugh G. Rection

        For the purposes of this site, it’s only pussy that matters. That’s also the thing that gets a lot of the readers (many times intentionally) confused.

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      • Nah. Beethoven’s dick will always be bigger than Casanova’s.

        Those who think otherwise are so deep and desperate into pedestalizing slim young smooth skinned pussy that their opinions are worth as much as any other 13-year-old puppy lover.

        God, by now you know how dumb she is– just because it’s a real thrill when she whimpers through her fifth orgasm, it’s still just the reflexes of a dumb cow.

        When Ludwig throws down however, this what God would sound like if he existed.

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      • I agree with the Beethoven part but a woman having 5 loud orgasms thanks to my banging her ( and it has happened often) is also music to my ears…sort of speak…

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      • But for my own edification, is the alpha-male designation only confined to smashing high quality poon?

        This is why I don’t particularly like the alpha/beta terminology, but hey, it beats “PUA” which makes you think of dumb one-two-three tricks.

        The alpha/beta talk comes from wolfpacks. The alpha is the leader of the pack. And yes, that gives him access to the females, but that is not all that being alpha wolf is about.

        However, when the manosphere starts using the alpha/beta designations, these words are entirely about getting women. Period. So even though these words come from a context where alpha meant something else, its meaning is changed in manosphere talk.

        (And yes, if you are a leader of men, like the wolf in the pack, you are likely to have easier access to women. But you can also get women without being a leader, which makes you “alpha”. And if you are a leader but don’t get women, you are not “alpha”. In manosphere terminology.)

        The confusion comes from this: people know that “alpha” comes from wolves, and they know that it means leadership in the wolfpack. So naturally we will assume that it is about leadership in manosphere terminology too.

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      • That’s how it’s used in PUA terminology, but PUA is just one school of the Manosphere. In terms of Positive Masculinity, which cuts across the Manosphere, the meaning of alpha is broadened to include other aspects. Within the scope of a PUA discussion, like this one here, the PUA meaning of alpha is sufficient.

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      • I believe that getting high quality pussy is a necessary but not sufficient condition of being any kind of alpha. There. I said it.

        Here’s the problem — betas do get pussy. A beta will get pussy appropriate for his physical appearance/external attributes. Betas also show up with high quality pussy sometimes. But this is after a bajillion dates, a bajillion dollars, and a bajillion promises of commitment. A beta male provides a woman with a fairytale — especially the greater beta. So yes, he will get pussy — especially if he has those external attributes.

        Ultimately tho, the woman will realize that he lacks the attitude. She will leave, stop giving sex, etc. etc.

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      • Scray

        I believe that getting high quality pussy is a necessary but not sufficient condition of being any kind of alpha.
        ———————————————————————————-

        Right, because it means you must limit your interaction with other men lest the woman notice your lack of real ability interacting with other men.

        These are the guys who get mad at YOU because their woman is staring at you without saying anything.

        LOL

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    • on December 3, 2013 at 1:46 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

      Just as females try to qualify themselves as if men wanted the same things women want, Mr Manic Beta tries to judge the guy by whether beta-men are impressed.

      CH did not say that the guy was IMPORTANT. Stop cutting down the shadows and straw men that have you wetting your panties.

      News Flash, dude: the market – not your own ego – decides how much your product is worth. The deceased got more panties thrown at him in a week than you will in your entire life.

      “rapey” – that’s a nancyboy talking, right there. It takes some serious Alpha-hood to impress a 16 year old = female at the PINNACLE of her SMV.

      Go take your “ancient Greeks” back to your Greek-sex gay club.

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  41. on December 2, 2013 at 9:30 pm FuriousFerret

    ‘Running Scared’ was Walker’s best movie. It’s a cool bit of pulp fiction.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0404390/?ref_=nv_sr_1

    Also he always seemed like a real chill guy in the media and it didn’t seem like an act either and he probably didn’t have the acting chops to put it off anyways LOL. Those are my favorite type of guys to hang out with, awesome but chill. Best guys in the world. Too bad they are a rarity because it comes from a place of total self acceptance combined with competence in success.

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  42. I don’t understand le Heartiste’s reasoning in this one.

    An ordinary man who surrounded himself with women festooning him with adulation would incite intrigue and sexualized curiosity in other women on the outside looking in at his social harem. His flirtatious profligacy would elevate his SMV. But a famous super alpha who did the same would merely confirm what most women already suspected about him. He would be playing to type, and in an odd twist of hamsterfied feedback his predictable alpha behavior would rob him of some power over women. Perhaps at the highest levels of womanhood — the HB 9s and 10s — any desire to have a long term relationship with such a man is dampened. His sexually entitled behavior might even create limits on the willingness of more average women to indulge in alphamania.

    So:

    Ordinary guy who is surrounded by lusting women – increased value
    Super alpha who is surrounded by lusting women – decreased value

    …with top women and average women alike. What the heck?

    I submit that women will react the same way to sexual abundance in a super alpha’s life as in an average guy’s life. And that this is therefore not the relevant factor when we discuss a super alpha’s access to womenfolk.

    Note the heavy metal bands of yore, who had slutty women lined up – actually lined up – at their floor of the hotel to sleep with them when on tour. The slutty gals were not turned off by the knowledge that these famous men had already had volcano-class sex.

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    • the HB 9s and 10s — any desire to have a long term relationship with such a man is dampened.

      Read it again, more carefully this time…

      Letting Vince Neil or Nikki Six dump a load in your dumpster is not the same as marrying him. CH is spot on, in that, every woman would still want to bang out the super alpha, but most would realize that for a LTR they are unobtanium, and would act accordingly. You will simply not harness a man of that level so the hamster will abide, and spin the wheel just fast enough to calibrate the idea.

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    • its a bell curve that breaks like this:
      10% losers-80%loser to regular-5% alpha-y-5% alpha to super alpha

      a guy in say, the 80% percentile is still a controllable loser to a dime piece, but has enough traits to make sense in her social circle. she can keep you interested and maybe in love.

      top 5%—–forget it. you have to constantly DQ yourself and it sucks. i don’t want to be fat or stupid or Scraylike. so….you fuck with the 22yo’s that want the DNA until you get old enough that your quality diminishes just enough to score a 32 yo dime. maybe when i’m late 50’s.

      its very lonely at the top.

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  43. In the War on Reality department:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2012/11/29/highlights-from-the-gender-neutral-swedish-toys-r-us-catalogue/

    ‘The Swedish advertising regulator … has been getting pushy on companies that promote images of men and women it deems off-message: Top-Toy was criticized for depicting stereotypical scenes of girls with dollhouses and boys with weapons, and fashion retailer H&M found itself in the regulator’s sights for showing bikini models with an “unhealthy tan.”

    So this year’s Top-Toy catalog tries to avoid such charges.

    Boys join girls in beauty play:

    Girls are well armed:

    Boys lend a hand with the housework:

    And play with fluffy pooches and ponies:

    And girls get in on the battle games:

    Sweden’s national obsession with gender equality has been getting plenty of coverage recently, including this NYT piece on a Swedish preschool where “teachers avoid the pronouns ‘him’ and ‘her,’ instead calling their 115 toddlers simply ‘friends.’”

    And while government regulators weighing in on the appropriateness of a model’s tan or a child’s play habits seems pretty far from the horizon in the U.S., it’s worth remembering how quickly these kind of standards change, and how quickly images from the past can seem comically outdated. If the pictures above seem a little different, it’s just as likely that within a couple of decades, we’ll look back on the traditional catalogs of today with the same kind of wonderment.’

    Translation: get ready to put your two-year-old sons in frilly pink dresses, or we’ll ship your racist sexist cracker ass to a re-education camp.

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    • Girls are well armed:

      Boys lend a hand with the housework:
      ———————————————————————————————–

      Are you really worried about this?

      Once you have children you will understand the difference between males and females.

      Its a BIG difference; and not one any white social engineering can easily overcome.

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      • For brownies, this is probably true, but for emasculated Swedes it seems to be working quite well. By your own countless admissions here, our current crop of soft ass white boys ain’t what they use to be when great grandpa had negroes swingin’ in the wind, right?

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      • Jay in DC

        . By your own countless admissions here, our current crop of soft ass white boys ain’t what they use to be
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        OK, but that behavior is driven by economics, not genes. Indeed, as many here have already indicated, feminism is a cultural construct a mile wide and an inch deep entirely dependent on a wealthy society.

        Remember all those angry militant “kill whitey” negroes from the 60s?

        What happened to em?

        They all got jobs at the post office

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    • Those ads they show are surreal and the entire article reads like something out of The Onion. Here’s the meat of the issue “in a country of 9 million people, gender equality is seen as a bedrock principle of a productive workforce and a healthy welfare state.” There’s so much wrong with this statement I don’t know where to start.

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      • They’ve already let the barbarians in (muslim immigrants) and they’re already raping and pillaging. In a few generations Sweden will be called Swedeistan and the advertisements will feature a fine selection of Burkas.

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      • Yep, diversity is what’s going to pop their little fairy bubble. As Hayek said ages ago, socialism is a retreat to a tribal mentality where your neighbor looks like you and believes most of the same things you do – and ideally those shared values include hard work and thrift. In effect, he’s a member of your extended family, so you don’t mind lending him a hand. It doesn’t work as well when your neighbor comes from a looter/baksheesh culture or wants to kill you for oppressing his great great great great grandfather whose name he doesn’t know.

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    • There is not a shit test that swedish men won’t fail.

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  44. There’s a massive point here that many are missing.
    It’s not about the women at all. PW had a purpose and vision that he strove for that had NOTHING to do with women. Nothing. Women were a by product of his actions and of what he did with his life.
    Yeah, maybe he wasn’t a great actor and his choice in picking roles was crap, but he had a life outside of all the things that many people just overlook these days.
    He worked his ass off with charities. He loved surfing. He loved fast cars. He did what he wanted to do and was completely in sync with his life purpose. The rest was just icing on the cake.
    He didn’t need approval of other men or women. He didn’t care. He didn’t flaunt it either. And that is one of the major characteristics of an Alpha man. Vision and purpose. When women are NOT the main objective and your goal in life is…that’s when the real magic happens.

    MVF

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  45. […] or whoever this dude was: chicks dig him, which leads me to believe that he had massive amounts of Alpha-Male qualities that made him an attractive […]

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  46. CH Tweet: ” Of course my “language” is evidence of hate! Hate is as natural as love. And it can accomplish great thing”

    There is no love without hate and vice versa.

    To love is to value something very strongly. Hate is what you feel for that which would harm what you value. Love without hate is mild affection at best.

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  47. Compare and contrast:

    Women, would you rather date Paul Walker (pre-dead, of course) or a watier that looked exactly like Paul Walker?

    Men, would you rather date Scarlett Johanssen, or a waitress that looked exactly like Scarlett Johanssen?

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    • Waiter that looks exactly like Paul Walker. Fame and/or excessive income is bad. I was raised in a family where there was an unspoken rule that although above average social standing and income is good, one should avoid excess social status and income.

      [CH: wrong answer. you LOSE. good day, madam.]

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      • on December 3, 2013 at 6:14 pm FuriousFerret

        “Waiter that looks exactly like Paul Walker. Fame and/or excessive income is bad.”

        You are the epitome of why men should never ever ever ever listen to anything that comes out of a woman’s mouth when they talk about what they want from men.

        I mean do you actually really believe that? And if the answer is ‘Yes’ there is no way in holy hell that you would actually make that choice.

        Think about this for a second. A by all accounts totally cool guy and he’s rich and model good looking. You would choose the waiter? The waiter. A handsome waiter that doesn’t make any money.

        Suppose that it is true that you would choose the waiter. Well in that case you are just simply plain fucking stupid. A complete evolutionary failure.

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      • I would choose the waiter because my parents would not approve of the movie star. You and CH severely underestimate the influence of mothers and fathers on young women raised in conservative families.

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      • You guys also did not grow up in the same town as I did. My community shuns fame, excess, etc. We don’t openly speak of money and anyone who has a lot of money and flaunts it is shunned. It took me years to figure out that two of my childhood friends came from very well off blue-blood families. You would never have guessed it by the cars they drove, the houses they lived in, or the clothes they wore. One of them is a Mayflower descendant and the other one has an estimated family net worth in the eight figures. I only found this out as an adult when I google searched their surnames.

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      • Sounds to me like someone is unconfident in her looks,
        And is compensating for it by appealing to the authority of her family values, attempting to explain away how a rich attractive man “wouldn’t be in her best interest.”
        Afterall, if he’s rich, he may just be able to find better.

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      • Fame and or excessive blah blah is bad for you, because you are uncertain of your looks.
        He might be able to do better than you if he is attractive AND rich.

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    • The waiter would get his share of chicky adulation, at least until he’s about 30 or so.
      He does, however stand no chance in freaking hell against the actual RICH & FAMOUS actor.
      Re:parents, it’s been my experience that the more the girls’ parents hate you, the better the girl will like you and vice versa. This is one of the many instances where what women SAY and what they DO are polar opposites.
      And since the actual Scarlett Johanssen is most likely a stuck-up, neurotic basket case (she’s an actress) and Woody Allen’s sloppy seconds gross me out, I’ll take the waitress for 10,000 billion dollars, Alex.

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      • If enough social pressure is applied, women can say and do the same things. Look at any socially conservative country. The Middle East. South Asia. East Asia. More conservative parts of Europe. When women are under the threat of being disowned from their families, and even more so when they are under threat of being arrested/imprisoned/corporal punishment/capital punishment, most women tend to behave pretty well. I cannot stand the thought of not having my parents in my life, so I would choose them over any man in the world. After all, men can at any time turn into alpha cads, but my parents will never abandon me.

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  48. Lol strong contradiction. The CH benchmark for alphadom relies mainly on a man’s ability to bag as many women as possible. Paulie failed miserably in this regard.
    His greatest asset in his SMV bag was fame. Not charisma, charm,looks, aloofness or other alpha traits.He was sexually averse like regular betas.
    Even though he “could have” banged bevies of babes… Doesn’t make him alpha, much less super alpha.

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    • linear, binary thinking for the win eh?

      you can cut all the weeds in the field but they only come back unless you plant the flowers in their place.

      😉

      im sure you don’t understand what i mean but thats ok. just makes it twice in one thread where ya don’t understand.

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  49. I see a parallel between Paul walker and Jesus. Both men attracted women, were seen as pure, but alpha, were greatly mourned by women and died before their primes.

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  50. Women are incapable of the reasoning necessary to understand a concept like equality. They do however understand that it is one of the herds current buzzwords and react accordingly, using it to accomplish their goals. Never underestimate a womans selfishness, irrationality, or capacity for bullshit and lies.

    …and…

    That’s the thing that CH hints often at (I remember CH describing female sexuality as “demonic”) but does not quite get out: that “alpha” men are attractive to women because women tend to have “dark triad” traits themselves.

    Consider this: just about every major religious, philosophical and moral system has been invented by men. Morality, liberty and honor are all male concepts. Remove men from the picture and what do you get? Societies which self-destruct, or which are incapable of defending themselves from the barbarians, both internal and external.

    About the only philosophical exception is Objectivism. But Ayn Rand’s followers are mainly men, especially those looking for an ideological justification for the most ruthless type of capitalism, or the freest of societies. Compare Objectivism with feminazism, with the latter’s ideology and policies of total power to the state in order to force “equality” between womyn and men. If womyn are 50% of the population, then the state must force corporations to make corporate CEOs 50% female. Or else. Or look at the child support policing system in the USA, which effectively deprives large numbers of men of their due process rights, enserfing men to support “womyn and their children.” It’s all about her, you see.

    Rugged individualism just does not appeal to the female herd instinct. (Granted, their are significant exceptions.)

    In point of fact, we have had “equality” for women as a policy in much of the first world since the 1960s at least. And the first world is becoming less free and more ideological rigid under the PC regime. It’s also disintegrating in the face of the violent depredations of “alpha” demographics.

    Feminazis and their beta-boys are incapable of dealing with the violence committed by the third world immigrant sector in Scandinavia, for example. Instead they rationalize away the violence, using any number of liberal formulae about the perpetrators really being “oppressed” or coming from “traumatized” countries. Underneath it, one wonders if womyn see the interlopers as the alpha men they desire deep down in their vaginae. The beta-boys, as usual, are without a clue other than knowing that if they do what females tell them to do, they might be able to hang out with a womyn. Meanwhile, cities in Europe burn.

    The Fall of Western Civilization, brought to you courtesy of Femi-Hamster, LLC.

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    • Men create elaborate systems of control to keep their underlings in control, whether it be religion or politics or philosophy, the end result is the same.
      Women are incapable of the faculties necessary to create a cohesive group conduct code that is sufficent for men to follow.
      When they start brainstorming, expect a whole lotta nonsense.
      You’ll also notice that feminism is a product of female social dynamics which in term is an outgrowth of female neural programming.

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      • Women are incapable of the faculties necessary to create a cohesive group conduct code that is sufficent for men to follow.

        And we see the results in America’s inner cities where gangs emerge from the rubble of female-headed “families,” and in the depredations of third world criminality and rioting in Europe. It’s like the rise of warlord bands.

        Actually, I shouldn’t be too hard on the new warlords. Perhaps they are carving out some measure of order to a self-destructing civilization. If they gin up an ideology to justify their power–then there’s the revolution.

        Be interesting to see if a new hierarchy emerges, with alpha males once again in power, nubile females lining up to be their concubines, feminazis consigned to shell shocked refugee camps, and beta males running around in circles without a clue.

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  51. When’s Amy coming back so I can whack off on her hair?

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  52. ‘without some compensating behavior or signal designed to reduce the perception of his unattainability’

    CH,
    I for one, would appreciate more insight into this. “Top 10 ways for super alphas to signal attainability”?

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  53. Great read.

    ps:I have checked the link with “defining the alpha male”.
    According to your description I am a lesser alpha!Yoopeee

    Somehow I dont feel it though

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  54. Woody Allen fucked Scarlet Johanssen?!??? Hypergamy ftw.

    Fuckin’ greasepole

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  55. fadfda

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  56. from facebook: I still cannot believe Paul Walker is dead. Crazy thing is I watched the fast and furious movies this past week. He was one of the very few celebrities I would have loved to meet and probably been at a total loss for words had it ever happened. Gone wayyyyyyyy too soon. I cannot believe it. Thank God I already had plans to go out tonight bc I just can’t fathom this right now, I need a distraction. — feeling heartbroken.
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    10 people like this.
    At least I’m not the only one who feels this way. I’m seriously heartbroken.
    November 30 at 10:08pm via mobile

    Ironically Bravo has Fast and Furious on right now.
    November 30 at 10:08pm via mobile

    And E! is playing a Vin Diesel movie as the news scrolls across the bottom of the screen.
    November 30 at 10:10pm via mobile

    If I were to say I didn’t cry about this already, that I don’t have tears in my eyes right now, and that I will likely cry later tonight I would be a big fat liar.
    November 30 at 10:10pm via mobile

    I can’t stop the chills. Omg…
    November 30 at 10:11pm via mobile

    Seriously I have a lump in my throat. Total shock. Totally drinking the sadness away tonight.
    November 30 at 10:12pm via mobile

    I seriously was just watching the original on tv when news broke.
    November 30 at 10:36pm via mobile

    My sister said “Not that anyone should burn to death, but he was way to gorgeous to die like that” and I officially lost it on the car ride in to the city. I grew up on him and his movies. He was a crush but also an actor I loved and good person. My heart is truly heavy right now.
    November 30 at 10:39pm via mobile

    Mine too! I was like wow he is such a cutie and then I saw Milena’s post. His death is epic! Like Brandon Lee’s.
    November 30 at 10:40pm via mobile · 1

    Reggie and I play that game where you can list 5 celebrities you could “cheat” with, PAul Walker has been on that list for 10 years. Cannot believe this-
    December 1 at 5:22am · 1

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  57. I think drake put it best when he said “women wanna fuck like they’re me and I’m them.”

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  58. […] there’s a catch that is similar to what Heartiste says about super-alpha Paul Walker, “Rules governing human interaction break down and recombine into strange new polarities, […]

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