Hot Girl Wants Slut Advice

“Nad Z” girlifies:

So I’m 18. Chick. Lost my virginity at 15. So. Basically. I’m hot. I found your writing by googling why girls are sluts and now I’m addicted to your site and it’s so interesting but confusing for me. I’m 100% cliche in wanting the passionate bad boy that’ll leave marks on me- and if I flash and ride so many cocks, he’s only going to want me during the next couple years because he’ll sense I’m great in bed? Even though I already get hit on, is he already thinking that? Does that mean I’ll never be able to date him or something close to him?
Should I settle for a guy that’s not quite up to my standards and date him to avoid becoming a slut so I’ll get someone up to my standards later because guys don’t want sluts(right?)?
xoxxx

I don’t care if this goes up on your site but if you’re going to slyly insult me I’d rather you not do it publicly. I’m already embarrassed enough. Hahahaha. Oh what the fuck I don’t care. It’ll be hilarious.

Why would you think your question qualifies for a sly insult? Your suspicions are misplaced.

Anyhow, first we have to be sure we’re on the same page, definitionally. A slut is not a girl who has a lot of kinky, exploratory sex with one man she adores. No, that is called a perfect woman. A slut is a girl who has sex with a lot of different men. A slut is sexually promiscuous, not necessarily sexually voracious, (although the two do often go tingle-in-tingle). A faithful woman to her lover who would never look at another man desirously can be sexually adventurous with him and him alone, (although extraordinarily faithful women tend to have enervated sex drives that dampen their enthusiasm for cheating).

The strength of a woman’s fidelity depends in equal measure on her own self-control and her man’s ability to stoke her desire.

So which are you? Do you crave sexual experiences with numerous men? Do you fantasize about raunchy sex every time you’re in the presence of a new badboy? Or do you want to find that one badboy lover who will make an honest woman of you, and settle into monogamous bliss punctuated by occasional forays into mutual public sex and auto-asphyxiation?

I can’t read your mind or your hamster’s mind, but I can tell you that losing your virginity at the relatively young age of 15, plus your self-professed hotness and desire to be marked by aggressive sex, are leading indicators you are headed for a good ten to fifteen years of hopping on and off the cock carousel, which will, in the long run, hurt your chances to marry a high quality man once your window of exquisite attractiveness has closed.

However, you are self-aware enough to come to this site and ask about the negative effects that sluttery may have on your mating prospects, so that weighs in favor of you making smarter choices than most young women with your suite of psychological and physical traits.

Here is my final judgment:

1. If you are extremely hot — top 5-10% of female looks — you can get away with a bit of real sluttery without hurting your chances to extract commitment from alpha male badboys in your prime, or from beta male providers in your sub-prime. This is because extreme female beauty tends to override all other considerations in a man’s mind of what qualifies a woman as a good relationship prospect.

2. Your sexual voracity, enthusiasm and expertise in bed will not be much of a self-incriminating slut tell. A woman who unleashes in the sack could be a slut, or she could be a woman who lusts for her man so badly that she loses all her inhibitions in the firm grip of his arms and cock.

3. Don’t jump into bed with the first badboy who shows you interest. Act coy, which means in practice act like you are working hard to conceal your lust for him, and when the moment is right for you, you will accept his ravagings. Since you are 18 and still aglow with high school perspective, I suggest waiting a good six weeks or more before putting out. This will weed out the badboys who will use you like tissue paper from the badboys who will put up a satisfying fight before acceding to a longer-term commitment. If you are as hot as you say you are, you won’t have much trouble keeping a man interested in pursuing you despite his burgeoning blue balls.

4. Don’t give him a blowjob the first time you have sex. Wild, skilled sex is not a giveaway that a woman is a promiscuous slut. But an expert blowjob definitely is a slut giveaway. No man will subtract points from your girlfriend potential score if you give good sex, but most men will add points to your slut score if you know how to polish a knob, especially on the first date. With that in mind, I suggest you wait a month or two before going down on him, and when you do eventually navigate your mouth to his staff of surliness to pretend that you don’t know what you’re doing down there, (but you’re a quick learner).

5. Don’t settle for a guy who’s not up to your standards, at least not while you’re in your fertile prime. (Save the settling for later, when the wall is peeking over the horizon and you’re starting to notice the female competition getting younger.) No good can come from being in a self-sacrificial relationship with a man you don’t, or can’t, love. Dating a beta male won’t stop you from being a slut; in fact, the opposite is more likely to happen — you’ll be so unfulfilled in your relationship that you’ll feel a stronger urge to step out on it. And then once you acquire that cheating whore reputation… game over, maa’aam. GAME OVER.

6. Dating down is only for women who don’t have the option to date up. If you can still date up (and at 18 you are in the best position in your life you will ever be to maximally date up), you should. Settling when you have no reason to settle will only engender resentment against the man or men caught in your weird self-abnegation loop.

7. Try, however hard it may be, to avoid screwing a lot of men like you’re a pigs-in-a-blanket taste tester for a king worried about poisoning. It’s for your own good. Men who have options — that is, desirable men, alpha males, men women love — can tell which women have slutted it up with an impressive assortment of men. Experience with women tends to hone our ability to discern soulkilled sluts from unstained sweethearts. The eyes tell the tale: I have never met a slut who didn’t have those creepy, dead, black orbs for eyes. The voice, too, gives it away. Sluts tend to speak with the monotonic cadence of men, growly and inappropriately assertive, like someone who has long nursed a chip on the shoulder. The spark of life is extinguished in the hardcore slut, and one thing men love about women is their carefree joie de vivre. Sluttiness kills joie de vivre dead. Keep that in mind.





Comments


  1. What do we want?

    “A lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets.”

    -Ludacris

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    • I want my lady in the kitchen, bro.

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    • “I need a lady in the streets but a freak in the sheets
      That know how to cook cause a nigga like to eat
      Spaghetti, shrimp and steak and I’ll adore you
      I’ll treat you like milk, I’ll do nothing but spoil you”- Lil Flip

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    • What do we want?

      Less ooga-booga bullshit.

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      • Your wish is my command Greg

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      • The classics never get old.

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      • Ah, a proper tea party! Back when there were still some men in this world who knew how to treat the political elite cunts.

        Brings a tear to me eye it does!

        Take a good look boys, we’ve got a lot to learn from these folks. Personally, I have tar and feathers set aside for that glorious day!

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      • A re-make of that classic is long over due; but can it be done without ruining it?

        Don’t get me wrong; its a great movie as is. But with closed captions for the Africans and a fleshing out of the Alpha/Beta character dynamics for the two lead white characters, it could go a long way towards helping young men understand that “game” is not about being a rude obnoxious asshole, but about knowing yourself as a way to build confidence; confidence born of challenge, challenge of self to produce your personal best instead of trying to prove your manhood through greed and pissing contests with other men…

        My greatest fear about “game” is rather than produce real men, we may end up a nation of bitch made niggers like “whorefinder”; strutting and puffing like a short dick buffoon.

        (((shakin my head)))

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      • My greatest fear about “game” is rather than produce real men, we may end up a nation of bitch made niggers…

        Ah, it’s moments like these that I can almost believe in the Brotherhood of Man…

        … almost.

        Credit where due: 1+

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      • Detroit 2012

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 5:58 pm None ya business

        Kill yourself trailerpark trash.

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      • Heh, heh… my basement is probably bigger than your backyard, MC Hotpocket.

        When I want to hear from the likes of your mentality I’ll go out and consult with my lawn jockey.

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      • “MC Hotpocket”

        I’m stealing that.

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      • He runs house parties with DJ PopTart… so long as their mom can give them a ride there and back.

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    • “Peep it, here go the secret on how to keep a player. Some love makin’ and home cookin’ I’ll see you later. It don’t take a lot to keep a nigga hard, must a lady in the light but real freaky in the dark”
      – Tupac Shakur

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 5:22 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      hey tehre da GBFM hs designed all 18 year old future mememberz of the sisterhood of sore buttholesz new fashion shirts!!!!

      http://cafepress.com/greatbooksformen

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 7:41 pm gunslingergregi

        nice follow through on the tshirt thing bro
        hit me up for further $
        trying to make 300k in two days you get half

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      • on October 21, 2012 at 12:07 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzoozz

        hey heartsistez! da gbfm is making new friendz!!!!!

        http://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2012/10/19/name-5-reasons-a-man-should-get-married/#comment-86565

        so, now, let’s all jump!!!

        (the neocon banking cartel tries to sell its debauched, desouled 32-year-old women as “good as new!” but they know, as did moses and jesus, of the wicked things debauched/desouled women are capable of–cuckholding, fornicating, transferring a man’s assets and children to the neocon corporate state, aborting 50,000,000 innocent souls and calling it a “right.” yes, women are the ideal soldiers in the neocon bnking cartel’s army of darkness, debauchery, and devastation, as the family is destroyed and man’s Natural Rights are trampled upon via the buttcocking welfare/warfare state which wages a perpetual war against truth, beauty, god, and the unborn)

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 10:36 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hewy there hot chick who needs slut advices!!

        i have good news 4 u! u should go to my church as they are devoted to empowering slutty sluts lzlzooozllzllz:

        my church defuneded my bible studey study greta books for men club so as to fund the “Repentant Sisterhood of the Sore Buttholez in Search of Beta Providers to Support Our Bastard Kidz” Bible study club zlozozozozo

        this is they’re prayer:

        THE PRAYER OF THE REPENTANT SISTERHOOD OF DA SORE BUTTHOLEZ lzozoz

        ten alphas pumped and dumped me
        so i considred myself a ten
        told all the betas “let’s wait and see,”
        and now i am a single old dried up hen.
        empowered today with my haughty blogs
        calling on men to man up everywhere
        where cocks once penetratd my hole for logs
        jesus now forgives me via my prayer
        please jesus please heal my sore butthole
        i repent so send a beta provider my way
        a good manned-up man with a good soul
        the ones i ignored back in the day
        but now i desrve me a nice nice moneyed guy
        to pay for dates while i make him wait ’til i die.

        to make him pay for what i gave away for free
        back when i was younger hotter tighter
        no longer can he butthext the reformed me
        like they did when i was fifty pounds lighter.

        cluck clcukc cluck cluck clcuck
        clukc clcuclkuc lcuk clukck clcolzozlzozolzzoozzozlz

        hey dalrock i think dat glen stanton is gonna put this in his hymnal bookz at all his mega churches/fort godz zlozlzozozoz

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 10:38 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozolzlzlloz

        here is nad z’s slutty slut songz zlzlozozlzozoz

        “da professional womenz ode”

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul
        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread
        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da femiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

        lzozozozozolz

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    • June Cleaver who does anal and enjoys it.

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      • Quit plugging that article everywhere. It doesn’t even have anything to do with the subject at hand, most of the time. Does the girl in question look or sound like she wants to be anyone’s co-worker? She is one tattoo away from being unemployable. Your mindless attention whoring is annoying.

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      • Yeah, but a man wants a wife, not a co-worker.

        http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker

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      • Speak for yourself. I’d rather suffer a woman as a co-worker than get married. Also, your situation is literally better than nothing. Your mail order bride may or may not be a step above porn. You admitted yourself in your comments on the manosphere that the owner of your balls is capable of some spectacular meltdowns, sees sex with you as a burdensome chore, even if she still obliges regularly and her family meddles in your affairs. Besides, it’s safe to assume that she isn’t particularly beautiful, and we know she isn’t very young either. If you’re willing to put up with all that for some home cooked Vietnamese shit (which looks kind of awful if one isn’t too into authentic Asian food), be my guest. But that’s not what MEN want. That’s what YOU want. You’re like a 13 year old showing off his first girlfriend. Pathetic.

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  2. I suspect your correspondent is no 18-year-old hottie. I have yet to meet one that writes in intelligible English, much less complete sentences.

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  3. Bless her heart. You give good advice, I hope she follows it.

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    • little to no chance of that.

      she (if it’s even a she) emailed [email protected] to feed her need for attention. what better way to satisfy this craving than to troll a pua blog with a seemingly sincere request for advice on how to not be a slut.

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  4. “I have yet to meet one that writes in intelligible English, much less complete sentences.”

    Rare, but not impossible. I’ve know a few beautiful, intelligent women. It’s unusual, but hey, it would take an unusual girl to write to the Chateau for advice. If she’s legit, I’d say she got some excellent advice.

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      • Occam’s Razor exaactly.

        Also, I found it cute that CH chose to use the word “enervate” in his reply. This is how we know the reply was for us and not for “her”, I guess, because fo’ sho’ she has no fvcking clue what that word means.

        Be quiet now honey, men are talking.

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  5. on October 19, 2012 at 2:35 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    That’s not a hamster, that’s a guinea pig. Genuine error, or a new Heartiste metaphor?

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  6. Stellar advice, especially point #7. It’s incredibly depressing to go out with a hot chick, only to find those black orbs staring back at you. If only this could be printed en masse and posted outside every high school in the United States. The real challenge I suppose would be getting them to read and comprehend it.

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  7. I like the girl and her question and I like your answer … but AGAIN you are wrong about one thing …

    “Don’t settle for a guy who’s not up to your standards, at least not while you’re in your fertile prime. (Save the settling for later, when the wall is peeking over the horizon and you’re starting to notice the female competition getting younger.)”

    Nobody should ever settle for anyone who is not up to their standards!!! In fertile prime or not, you should never be with someone you don’t love!! If you do that, you’re not only hurting yourself but your your boyfriend/husband too!

    (Am I too naive?)

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    • I want to skullfuck you.

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    • The problem is that most women have self-esteem issues. As in entirely too much self esteem.

      They crave Prince Charming, while themselves being 5’s or 6’s. Yes, they might get a Prince Charming to spend a night with them — but only on a night when his better options happened to fall through. They then delude themselves that an occasional one-night-stand with an Alpha means they have a chance of getting a ring from an Alpha, continue to delude themselves through their 30’s, and then wind up in their 40’s with a herd of cats. I’ve seen it happen too many times.

      That’s the ongoing theme of this site — the female hamster in overdrive.

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      • I run a portuguese dating and relationship advice website for women, I sell an ebook on there. Most of the women that buy the book are between 30 and 40. Everytime a woman leaves a comment saying that she is VERY atractive and inteligent I search her email on Facebook. 9 out of 10 times they are under a 5 on the atractiveness scale. Their inflated egos are one of the reasons they stay single and unloved.

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      • Yeah, that’s why I never bother with online shit. Match.com = Oldsnatch.com and all that.

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      • E aí a vaca foi pro brejo.

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      • I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Chubby, 40, with a herd of cats; that’s the lifestyle most modern women will wind up with. Sad, but true.

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      • I agree…

        I had a petty debate with a female friend of mine last night who’s 20 and a solid 8 and she mentioned how fussy she was and went on to describe the things that turns her off. One of them was if a guy specifically asked her to take off her shoes when entering his house… WTF!

        And i thought men were relentless when it came to dating. Now i see the point why men sprint towards sex as quickly as possible because women are harsh at disqualifying men on a whim.

        Post sex though, she’s putty in a guys hands because she’ll have given away her most prized possession – Her precious vagina.

        In my experience, women are more paternal, forgiving and accomodating after you’ve fucked them. So guys, you want a girl to overlook your flaws? Fuck her as quickly as possible and give as little away of yourself as possible…

        As the saying goes –

        “Revelations before the flood causes the creek to run dry”

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      • One of them was if a guy specifically asked her to take off her shoes when entering his house… WTF!

        Not really WTF… if her boots were caked in mud, it’d be one thing, but otherwise it comes off to me as stuffy and somewhat effeminate, like something an aging housewife in a clean, upper-middle-class house would say to a younger male visitor.

        But yes, the less said the better.
        http://hetexted.com/text/1350476473

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      • I haven’t vacuumed or really cleaned my carpets in years, and my floors are covered in stains, but I make chix in heels take off their shoes to gain more height advantage and make them feel vulnerable and submissive. I keep my shoes on. Any stuffiness is offset by things like unstuffy music, a visible DVD of porn I starred in, and rails of coke.

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      • To get Prince Charming you must be Snow White. ™

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      • Win.

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    • C’mon. Admit it. You’re a Heartiste sockpuppet used to simulate a hamster on meth.

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    • Settle has nothing to do with love. Plenty of women have loved their husbands / boyfriends dearly, that would still have completely ignored him if Brad Pitt had pursued her, at the same time her and hubby were courting. Heck, plenty would dump him for ole Brad even if still in love after years of a relationship.

      Then go to parts of the world where arranged marriages are prevalent, and you’ll likely find more couples in love than in the West.

      If you’re a woman, you start your dating/relationship/sexual career at the top as far as raw, context free attractiveness go. As such, “holding out” for someone better, is a rather precarious act, unless you live in a locale atypically deficient of attractive men, and are planning to move. Which is a major reason why every known civilized society has married girls off when they are, duh, easiest to marry off. The entire holding off fad that is to a good part responsible for extinguishing Western societies, only took off once mothers, en masse, handed off the raising of their daughters to government funded lesbian bulldykes, whose SMV curve do admittedly more closely track that of men.

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    • on October 20, 2012 at 2:51 am Mr. Pointyface

      Maya. Stop. Pull back. Mr Pointyface is giving a free consult.

      I’ve explained before to various dunderheads what reification is.

      Even a woman an understand it.

      Reification can be defined as treating an practically undefinable abstraction as a real thing that we deal with in the world.

      Good examples are God, Liberals, Conservatives, genius– the problem is people often _think_ they understand what they are, but they can’t define it in terms that they can demonstrate to you. For instance, some people say Obama is a Marxist, and others are as completely convinced he is a corporate minion.

      You are falling for this logical error in communication in the way you are thinking about “settling”. It’s a useless abstraction, and when you talk about it with someone you are not talking about the same thing.

      It’s doubly useless because it’s
      1) Basically undefinable.
      2) Perfectionistic, a pejorative description of something that might be the best idea possible. e.g. What if there was a guy who was great in every way but he was two inches shorter than your ideal. But he boffs you until you bleat like a farm animal, is generous and even tempered, hilarious, etc…
      But you can never settle! So you feel good about holding to your standards and it sux sux sux for everyone involved.

      Errors may include in general terms ( abstractions here) :

      1) Perfectionism which is really laziness and emotional stinginess in disguise.

      e.g. What if my perfect woman is Joni Mitchell when she was 23 (decades ago) ? I should go single the rest of my life because this person doesn’t exist any more? Anything else would be “settling.” See how counterproductive absolute terms can be.

      Here’s a secret pro life management tip, more free stuff cuz you’re a chick. Learn to do some work for a change. :

      When I used to be a computer programmer, and I couldn’t figure out how to debug some problem, absolutely could not see the optimal point to insert some test code, I would do this:

      Change something, anything.

      You can at least do that. Otherwise, you get assigned to what shrinks call “help rejecitng complaining.”

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      • I thought settling means having sex/relationship with someone you don’t really like or he treats you badly but you know that your biological clock is ticking so you rather choose a loveless relationship because it’s still better than being alone and childless. I know that I will never decide for that and I will keep waiting for love. This does not mean that I’m looking for a perfect man, I would actually prefer someone average (like me) because I want to feel relaxed and safe with him. Someone perfect would make me feel insecure and I’d be constantly afraid that he will leave me for a younger/prettier girl. That’s why I will definitely choose a beta guy! You might call it settling but imo this is not settling because I now believe it’s possible to fall and stay in love with a beta man. Betas might be unfuckable/unlovable for girls in their early twenties but I’m now older and wiser and I’m not attracted to alphas anymore.

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    • “Don’t settle for a guy who’s not up to your standards, at least not while you’re in your fertile prime…” Nobody should ever settle for anyone who is not up to their standards!!!

      The “settling” part isn’t the issue. It’s the “standards” that gets a girl in trouble.

      A young hot girl is at the height of her powers and the nadir of her wisdom. That deludes her into thinking a long term “settlement” requires ensnaring a man equal to her peak-market value. This would be a fair outcome according to the wisdom of the marketplace, but it doesn’t take into account the present value of her predictably diminishing asset. Fathers used to do that on their girls’ behalf before they became sitcom punchlines and trembling beta deadbeats.

      The illusion of “ensnaring” doesn’t mean a damn thing in the age of frivolous “LTRs” and no-fault divorce. Rather, it encourages mutual resentment between the married parties, living as they now must through an 18-year-old girl’s understanding of the SMP and her proper place in it over the course of her life.

      Absent paternal leadership and tough wisdom thumped into her brain pan, a girl unconsciously allows hypergamy to take the place of “standards.” Why O why do I want the bad boy who is so bad for meeee? And then, Why O why did I settle for the beta who is so boring to meeee? Men and women, boys and girls, all must act under the assumption that a woman at any stage in her life is the absolute worst judge of her prospects and therefore is destined to leverage her peak-market value poorly, one way or the other.

      So, as the soon-to-be-thirty spinster wails, “Nobody should ever settle for anyone who is not up to their standards!!!” she cannot fathom why life didn’t go as planned. As I told her about two years ago, when she first started sniffing around this place: you don’t need a husband/boyfriend/ONS, you need a father who can help guide you through your hypergamous morass. These civilian chicks who think they can day-trade penny stocks into dividends for life don’t need the Can’t Lose Sure Thing Insider Guaranteed Stock Tip when it comes to playing the dangerous Dow Jones Sexual Average of the SMP. They just need a sober investment adviser.

      Am I too naive?

      Does a bear shit in the woods?

      Matt

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  8. Another good bit of advice for this young women (if she exists as described) would be to shoot for men a little bit older than herself. A 20 year old alpha boy with options, especially with a typical college environment (hook-up culture, skewed male-to-female ratio, living stacked on top of other 20 year olds) will have simply too many options and too little impulse control to hold out even for the hottest of women and remain faithful to her.

    Her best bet would be a grad student, young professional, or guy in a masculine trade who lives off campus, social life slowing down, entering into the realm where he would consider a relationship. A bright eyed 18-year-old who isn’t altogether annoying would be ideal for somebody like that. A guy in his mid-twenties or so would not be going to parties with other drunk 18-year-olds 3 times a week, he would be surrounded by women his age at happy hour prematurely evolving into chubby “independent” women. Yet, the age gap would not represent a generational difference.

    Plus, a man with his own apartment, spending money, experience with women, indifference to her petty social circle, etc could still appear pretty damn alpha even without the antisocial behavior that gets her going and boys her age exhibit.

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    • One basic change in American society is that women, especially intelligent middle-class women, are waiting too long before marrying. A woman 18-24 would likely have a better life, long-term, if she hunted down the best guy she could find in the 24-30 age range (old enough to support a family, young enough to not have succumbed to cynicism) and MARRY HIM. If she waits too long, the best guys will have been taken, and an increasing percentage of her pool of candidates will be bitter divorced guys, or confirmed long-term players.

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      • If she’s after high SMV guys (especially alphas, but also less promiscuous high status guys), I’d be surprised if 15-18 years older isn’t better still; UNLESS the guy is genuinely religious (as in, celibate until marriage despite 10s throwing themselves at him, like those mythical, handsome priests in romance novels). A 6 year difference means hubby in mid to late 40s, peak career and status age (think speaking at professional conferences in exotic locales, to starry eyed coed grad students), when she hits the wall hard and irreversibly; not exactly a risk free proposition from her vantage point.

        Technically, draw the SMV curve for men and women. Then aim for maximum overlap. The one for men peaks for ages 15-18 (at least) years older than for women, and the decline rates from peak until past her menopause is similar. And minimizing SMV differentials is the key to stable relationships in sex obsessed dystopias like our own.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 10:36 pm gunslingergregi

        chick i know has 6 kids and is 27 thats how fucking old that is in woman years

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    • Agreed, and was discussing this the other day with some friends. This site has noted before, and it is certainly common knowledge, that there are different shapes to the “Peak SMP” curves among men and women. Women peak early and fade fast, say around 20-25, while men improve slower and degrade slower, say around 33-37. A rational pairing system would see women from the female peak ages pairing off with men closer to the male peak ages. In other words, women SHOULD (by and large aspies) be pairing off with men that are substantially older than they are, say anywhere from 5-10+ years. This allows both sides to “not settle”, while each maximizing their “winnings”.

      However, since our primary social groupings are predicated on our school ages, this results in sub-optimal age sorting, at least in regards to luv. Instead of being exposed to men in their late twenties, the typical twenty year old female is surrounded by men below her standards, relative to peak SMP value. Similarly with men. There are few socially acceptable ways for a man, aged thirty, to associate with “college-aged” females, which, again, should be (according to the above), their “natural” targets.

      I think this imperfect social sorting results in a lot of girls refusing to settle down in their early years, and suddenly, by the time they are exposed on a regular basis to men they would consider settling down for, the kids in the front cars are already raising their hands and clenching their stomachs…

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      • For the longest time I was brainwashed into going with ladies around my age because I thought younger girls were immature. Then I found out they don’t really change mentally anyway as they get closer to 30 other than they want to settle and they look older. So now I’m going after ladies in the 22-26 range or she has to wow me if she is close to my age.

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      • Haha, yeah good luck with that. You look gross and old.

        [heartiste: bitter much?]

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    • Precisely. And you might go even a little older than that. 30s. Or higher. As long as you realize you are likely to become a widow – but then most women are, if married and not divorced.

      Thor

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      • Widowhood is rendered much less onerous by a sizable brood of offspring. Another privilege of women “settling” while still of fertile age.

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    • This is very true — the “Half his age plus seven” rule actually does work very well in practice for long-term relationships. An eighteen year old girl should be targeting guys around 22.

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      • In Medieval/Renaissance Europe, the legal age to get married was 14 for boys, 12 for girls.That’s for commoners, btw, not royalty – who were frequently married off for political and/or financial reasons by their parents before they could walk. So, girls, next time you read a fairy tale…wait, I’m talking to Americans….Next time you watch a Disney movie very loosely based on a fairy tale (there, that’s better…), that’s the age group you need to keep in mind. By the time they were 20, the couple had had 5 kids or so, assuming the girl didn’t die in childbirth, which was very common. If so, the husband would likely have no choice but to find himself a new wife (12+), because who would do the housework while he’s out plowing the landlord’s fields? Who would feed the kids not old/strong enough to work? Who would feed the chickens? Etc. At 35, they were the Wise Old Folks who would rock grandkids on their broken, arthritic knees and think about how to divide the homestead among their 3 surviving sons (of 7). By 50, they were dead or wishing they were. The more I think about modern society, the more I start to wonder if maybe that’s not the way it’s supposed to be and messing with nature by way of doubling or maybe even tripling the natural liferspan of a human was perhaps not such a good idea.

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  9. Send her over to Futrelle’s site. I’d like to see what his advice would be in contrast.

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  10. on October 19, 2012 at 3:18 pm Rihanna Deserved It

    We finally caught one! An 18 year old hottie. Don’t get too caught up in college hookup culture — it is sad to see how many girls get fat and lose their joy for life by senior year. Also, if you’re ever in the area, give me a call.

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 3:19 pm Rihanna Deserved It

      281-330-8004

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    • To add, a few years of butthexed cock carouseled partying with no accountability will age a woman quite fast, ive seen it happen in three months as 18 year old hotties come home for Thanksgiving looking like 25 year olds. If you have 16-18 year old female relatives warn them.

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      • Smoking, tanning, and various cocks are the age enhancing trifecta.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 5:42 pm gunslingergregi

        i left a chick for 11 days came back she all fucked up looking maybe she was in luv

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      • I actually notice a marked decrease in natural sweetness, and a corresponding increase in crassness, as girls go from freshmen->sophomore->junior->senior. By the time many graduate, they’re largely banged up shells of their former self, with as much the same gaze and joie de vivre as ex heroin users, or even (slightly exaggerated) zombies.

        Which is sad, since a college education ought to be such an unqualified blessing for young women, and something that in theory should improve their kind, vis-a-vis their poorer sisters in less advanced countries. But, as is their custom, the progressives screwed up that one, too; to the point where I seriously doubt the average American college educated woman from a privileged background, would be a more suitable mother for most (American even) mens’ children, than a dirt poor Burquaette from places where they would have shot her, should she as much as aspire to a single day worth of schooling in non-purely-practical matters.

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  11. I really appreciate everything you guys are saying and I will def listen.
    To the people that don’t believe me- wld u rthr i like tlkd like this like lol! Please. Do I really even need to prove anything. This is the internet, let’s not get ahead of ourselves humm humm humm. But I’ll post a picture of you’d like- maybe I’m not hot in NYC, but I think constantly getting hit on everywhere I go says something.
    Also, @ Anon, already a step ahead of you. The guy I lost it to was 31. “”oopsillegal””

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    • but I think constantly getting hit on everywhere I go says something.

      yeah, it just says that you probably don’t look like cigstache.

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      • Look, I really just wanted the advice. I don’t know half of the stuff you guys do so I obviously don’t know what the fuck I’m saying. Here’s a picture: http://bit.ly/PfM6b7 I haven’t done hot or not. I figured, hey, for this email, for the right advice, would hot be the right word? Yeah that would do. Honestly. Live, breathe, love skepticism. I dig it. Maybe I’m not the right person to ask this advice, but now it’s on the internet for someone who needs it.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm gunslingergregi

        really?
        grow your hair quit listening to the fags at the salon or the ugly bitches
        color that shit blond cause that is who actually makes dudes fall in love lust
        get rid of the black eyes
        and wtf is on your mouth

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      • Classic chick mistakes.

        You think you are hot because you get hit on a lot.
        ALL women who look even remotely fuckable (are not land whales) in your age range get hit on all the time. It means nothing about your attractiveness, just your fuckability. Fuckability has a very low threshold for the millions of drooling betas running around out there.

        Also, your look says “slut”, which is probably why you are getting hit on a lot. You look easy. Not hot.

        Get it right and save yourself the grief of falsely believing you deserve nothing less than an attractive alpha.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 1:37 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Also, women who tatt themselves up and get multiple piercings and weird hair make a big mistake in their thinking. Men don’t go for them because they’re attractive per se, but because these are usually the marks of someone who is relatively easy.

        This is sort of a shortcut way for women to get attention and any attention can be taken as “I’m hott.” Which, I guess, she is in a way if men are going for her.

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      • 5.5

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      • Ouch.

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      • Seconded

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      • If that’s the best picture she could provide, and she appears to be hiding a mediocre-at-best body, she’s a 4 at best.

        Nad, no offense, but I’m 49, 5’9″, have a belly, and don’t make much money, and I doubt I’d fuck you; maybe if you showed up in my crib on Saturday morning (my horniest time), stripped, started blowing me, and didn’t expect me to kiss you or go down on you. About the best I could say is that 90% of 18-year-olds bodies have that almost-shell that rocks, so as long as you aren’t fat, you’d feel good.

        I know this sounds cruel, but you’ll be better for knowing it. Find a hard-working sincere nebish just out of college to get into a LTR with ASAP, and pressumre him into marrying you before he starts making good dough.

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      • Wow. You need a lot of work to undo that self-mutilation. I don’t want to be mean, but my honest assessment, since that is what you are apparently seeking, is 4.0 at best. Clean yourself up and you’ll score higher.

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      • I take it back. I’d give you a 3.0. And I’m not a mean spirited guy. But what you’ve done to yourself is a crime.

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      • Jesus, take it easy. This girl is not hot, but she’s definitely not a 3 either. Considering 5 is your average next-door, homely chick, this girl is either average or slightly above. 3 is for fat, unfuckable bitches. This chick is definitely fuckable.

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      • Adam, how do you know she’s not fat? She doesn’t show her body in the picture; usually there’s a reason for that.

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      • Yeah, I’d say 3-4 depending on various factors (lighting, hair, etc.). But this is sort of the blog’s entire point, right? Women like this going around thinking they are 8’s because of the skewed sexual marketplace dynamics. Also, Adam I disagree about what a 5 is. A 5 is average and so by definition, somewhat attractive, rather than homely. Slightly homely chicks are 4’s. 5’s are just plain.

        My advice to her is to just search for a normal looking guy who will treat her nice, because guys 5+ will a) use her as a last resort way to ‘get it in for the night,’ and b) will also seek to keep such indiscretions secret. That said, I’m way new to all this stuff so my advice is probably worthless 😀

        —–

        Otherwise, this blog has been hugely helpful. I still have nothing when it comes to routines and canned material, but what I did study on this blog was body language and ‘shutting the fuck up’ to pass shit tests. I deployed both of these tactics at a recent function, and I was pretty impressed with the results. Like, rather than toss out an insulting comeback to a girl who gets out of line, if you just stand there, wait two seconds, and slowly smile while maintaining eye contact, then look away, there’s an instant response. I’m far from any sort of expert, and I’m sure I made a lot of ‘state control’ mistakes, but what I little I did right, I noticed a huge ROI. I’m actually starting to think I have little problem generating attraction and that my biggest problems are comfort and seduction.

        Question: when a cute girl you hardly know asks you to drive her home, is it beta to take her…or is this a good opportunity?

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      • 3 is for fat, unfuckable bitches

        i’d hate to see what a 2 or 1 looks like.

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      • There’s a 1-10 chart floating around somewhere. Some of you need to look it over.

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      • not hot.

        the chateau’s advice obviously applies to ACTUAL hot young chicks.

        The proper advice to you: lower your standards if you seek committment. you will never be more than a dickgoo receptacle to gina-tingling bad boys.

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      • wow. just…….wow.

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      • Yeah, if this is hot I’m Megan Fox. I call troll.

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      • Nah… just deluded. There are disgusting fatties who also deem themselves “hot”.

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      • Multiple colored hair, numerous piercing screams slut…even if you aren’t.

        That doesn’t make you hot…it makes you an easy target. Look more feminine and you’ll look hotter.

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      • Manjaw. Ten bucks says your ring finger’s longer than your index finger.

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      • 1) Replace the half-pink chopped up hair with shoulder-length naturally-colored tresses. (Don’t bleach your hair blonde either unless it really is that color; bleach-blondes also come off as sluts in our eyes.)

        2) Lose the piercings, unless you only wish to date dudes with even more piercings than what you have.

        I can’t grade your appearance otherwise, but doing these two little things will jack it up 1-2 points on the 1-10 hot or not scale that every dude uses.

        Oh, and:

        3) No more tattoos.

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      • she is a 7, just not a good picture is all. Got a lot of potential, but yeah 18 year olds are so much fun to stuff.

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      • Not really a 7, check out her facebook below. She’s a 7 if you give her the benefit of the doubt based on that blurry ass picture. But if you look at her normal pictures she’s a 4.

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      • Agreed, i held back b/c friends say my scale is twisted from living in NYC but this is no 7. At least not on the eastern seaboard.

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      • If you want a real guy who will emotionally bond with you, you should lose that look. Lose the piercings, get your hair one color (preferably the natural one), let it grow to shoulder length, and find a good man in the 25-30 age range.

        Here’s the secret: Be good to him, and he’ll be good to you..

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      • Truth. Your best bet is to go wholesome/healthy. Youd be surprised what that can land you.

        Keep in mind, not all of us want endless sex with a variety of women. Heh. Well, OK, that was lie, we all want that, but some of us want kids even more.

        Wholesome / healthy / sweet is your best bet.

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      • Bad move posting a pic, baby girl.

        Guppy in a shark tank. Chomp chomp. (Maybe that was the idea? Masochism on top of self-mutilation? Cutting is more efficient…)

        What work there is to do with the floozy flotsam of the feminist age.

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      • Bogart said,

        … your look says “slut”, which is probably why you are getting hit on a lot. You look easy. Not hot….

        He is 100% right.

        and many here agree.

        you look easy , not hot.

        and that explains why so many men hit on you.

        With a different look – a much less slutty look – you would be prettier.

        Less men would hit on you but better men would.

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      • on October 22, 2012 at 9:41 am Hugh G. Rection

        Bear in mind when judging this is the most flattering photo she could find. Completely delusional, 4 if I’m generous.

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      • You have a pretty face and nice bone structure. Your hair is awful and so are the piercings. You’re already getting hollowed out eyes. You have dark circles and that means you don’t eat right. Grow your hair, keep it its natural color or a pleasant, lighter shade. I think you may be a bit flabby, so hit the gym. If you want a quality man, you have to offer quality yourself. Start wearing dresses, wear moderate make up and high heels, learn about the world, be pleasant to be around and don’t monopolize your future marriage with your imaginary problems.

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      • Right. She has good bones and youth, at least what we can make out in two-dimensions and in a deliberately low light. But she has vandalized whatever beauty she possesses as an external protest against some interior secrets she wants the world to know.

        Attention is free to all teenaged girls, even the ones who sabotage themselves and are destined for the train wreck. Preliminary strikes by Captain Save-A-Ho and aggression from the chasers of precocious sluts are enough to feed a youthful self-mutilating girl’s attention-needs for her first dozen fucks.

        What this fatherless girl cannot know is that another option exists, much less that she is allowed to pursue that option. When she tried to be good she found no support but rather ridicule, and her only consolation becomes the fleeting pleasure of opening her hole to someone who appears to love her (at least in the low light) long enough for a liberating, drunken pump and dump.

        A young woman is not born with dignity. She is born with unearned power. Without finishing school, that power flames out like a lit propane cloud rather than the steady smolder, a slow-burn that men will spend their lives attempting to acquire (or spend a night to snuff out in an innocent).

        But from where was she supposed to receive this wisdom? Sex-ed class? Cosmogirl? One Tree Hill? Her hypergamous instincts? No. The only source she has is a tangential diversion from the normal subjects of a men’s pick-up blog, where at least they won’t bullshit her.

        Matt

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      • “… an external protest against some interior secrets she wants the world to know.”

        Watch and learn, others. It’s beginning to and back again (with attribution to “Wire” for the excellent word alignment).

        This whole post is beta-bait. It’s been fun. But recognize.

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      • Every word a ducat… every paragraph a doubloon… every post a guinea.

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    • Pic.

      And how did it happen with the 31 year old?

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      • 31 year old- works at a concert venue. I had a crush on him for a while and I went up to his friend and said “wow you guys are gorgeous tag team if you feel me”

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      • “If you feel me?” LOL are you black or are you a wigger?

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      • Nvm, just saw your picture. It could be the lack of body and lighting but you’re not what I would consider hot. Speaking as a 26 year old, I’d give you a 7 at best. Also, I have full sleeves and snake bites so I look like a scene/hipster rocker but I only pump and dump scene chicks and I date girls who look like sorority girls; so you may want to change your look if you’re looking for a steady relationship because your entire style is a slut tell.

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      • You rolled up and said this to two grown men when you were 15? Yeah, I don’t think you need to worry about not being seen as a slut.

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      • put a better picture up.
        everyone has good and bad days and good and bad pictures. That would be a bad picture

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      • No, spartacus – most people post the good pictures; assume she did,and that was a good picture.

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      • Haha well that is unfortunate for her. That picture is terrible.

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      • Facebook is the age of delusion. Now every girl is hot, with 1000 beta orbiters clicking “LIKE”. She wakes ups everyday and believes the delusion

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      • I kinda miss the old Hot Or Not site, the new version is lame.

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      • Nad, are you crazy? Stop posting your photographs on the internet together with description of your sex life. People will recognize you and this could harm you ten or more years from now. CH, would you please delete the link to her photograph?

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      • Yeah, this girl is really, really naive or just dumb. I hope she learns a lesson from this and doesn’t put her business out there again in the future. Once on the internet, nothing goes away. Nothing.

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      • Yeah, I thought that was called “statutory rape”

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      • Hypergamy doesn’t care about statutory rape, bruh.

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      • Legal bullshit. If the grass is green, play ball!

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 4:35 pm Rihanna Deserved It

      Join a sorority with a good (not slutty) rep. Still waiting for my pic messages…

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    • She asked for an optimum strategy. Fuck outta here with your solipsistic anecdotes.

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    • She wont be undatetable after 25 but her looks will probably start to fade, which means that she will have to settle. Stop giving shitty advice.

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      • Is 25 when a woman’s looks typically begin to fade?

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 7:02 am Subway Orgy Organizer

        There’s a Finnish saying 17 year olds are the hottest, freshness-ise that’s true, but in this state that would be illegal and I recommend against it.

        If the girl has smarts and an amiable character, she can overall increase in attractiveness up to 24 or in some cases even 27. Because she has more wisdom and knowledge, it is more satisfying to degrade her sexually as she knows how vulgar what she is doing is.

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      • Are you Finnish?

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      • Depends. Some go downhill after 18, some manage to put it off until 30.

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      • Thanks for the opinions, all!

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      • In a mans eyes its generally true that a womans looks will start to degrade after 25. The cause is that her peak fertility window(20-25) has passed, and men have evolved to prefer women in that range.

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      • Men never evolved to that…it has always been that way.

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      • I agree. Every animal on Earth starts breeding as soon as they’re able. Whenever the evolution happened, it was shortly after the existence of DNA.

        Humans socially “evolved” not to do this because of feelings about education and family and then individual status and resources. It was made worse when education became primarily something given by the state rather than the family. So now in most of the west, even if a girl is physically and emotionally ready on time (16-20), she seems freakish and others are telling her she’s not really ready.

        In my opinion, this is one of the worst tragedies of our time.

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      • In medieval times, the legal age to get married (for commoners) was 14 for boys, 12 for girls. By age 20, they had 5 kids or so, provided the girl survived childbirth, which wasn’t a given. If not, the hubby would have no choice but to find himself another wife, otherwise, no one would care for the small children, no one would feed the chickens, no one would keep the home fires burning (literally), etc. while he was plowing the landlords’ fields all day. By the time they were 35, they would be roclking grandkids on their knees, at 50, they would be dead or wishing they were. Sometimes I wonder if that’s not how it’s supposed to be and if prolonging peoples’ lives beyond that was such a great idea.

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      • What, you mean postindustrial civilization makes us less natural?

        No fuckin’ way.

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      • I’m interested in where you got this information because it seems unlikely to me. Noble/royal boys and girls were married very young (which is where I think people get the 12-14 figure) but often didn’t cohabitate until their late teens. There was much more pressure on them to produce an heir and the girl’s virginity/fidelity insured that the equivalent of millions/billions of dollars plus “ordained” power passed on to the right DNA.

        Menarche doesn’t typically begin until a girl approaches about 20% body fat, which is easily achieved in modern times (hence it happens earlier) but back in the day this typically didn’t happen until the hunter-gatherer average which is about 14. Then, consistent ovulation doesn’t begin until years after menarche. Basically a girl who just began menstruating wouldn’t actually be that fertile for another 2-3 years. A woman’s fertility peaks at 20-25 but her reproductive value (current fertility combined with remaining fertile years) peaks at around 18.

        It’s reasonable to say that the average age of marriage in a stable monogamous society was around the reproductive value peak. Even premedicine people must have recognized the increased infant mortality in 13-14 year old girls it’s just that when more resources were at stake they took that risk.

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      • I was there…….Seriously, everything I’ve ever read and heard about the Middle Ages agrees on these points. You can’t count royalty, they often married their kids off at age 2 or 3, for purely political and/or financial reasons. Kinda wonder how many American girls would still call themselves ‘Princess’ if they knew that a REAL princesses’ job was basically to be a political bargaining chip. And that they were quite likely to be married off to a guy they had never even seen before, who might even be related to them. By the 16th century – if not sooner – birth defects and insanity were very common among royal families. That’s what a couple of hundred years of inbreeding will do to ya.Not sure if there’s a major difference in age of fertility between a medieval and a modern girl. One would assume that if they allowed them to marry at 12, it would begin right about then. A teacher friend of mine has a 13-year old in his class who has 2 kids. She’ not medieval, obviously, I’d have to ask him if she’s obese.

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      • Yeah but a woman’s fertility declines slowly between her peak fertility and her premenopausal years. Not until late thirties does a woman’s fertility begin to decline rapidly. A woman might peak at 22, but no reason for her to drop off so drastically by 30 unless its due to poor diet and lifestyle. Go to a country where obesity isn’t epidemic and people dress presentably in public and a 32 year old, even one who’s had children, is practically indistinguishable from a woman in her mid twenties until you’re quite close to her face.
        An r-strategist would just as well exploit a woman this age with an established reproductive history (as a woman’s fertile decline is slowed by
        having children) and a proven ability to produce surviving children without male contribution. Notice that there is less of an imperative for youth in societies like that.

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      • Its not only fertility and beauty that fades, there is also a greater chance for birth defects.

        “Go to a country where obesity isn’t epidemic and people dress presentably in public and a 32 year old, even one who’s had children, is practically indistinguishable from a woman in her mid twenties until you’re quite close to her face.”

        Im from Sweden and this is just wrong, the women here fade after 25 just like elsewhere. And if you put a kid in the mix it gets even worse, stop lying to yourself.

        “An r-strategist would just as well exploit a woman this age with an established reproductive history (as a woman’s fertile decline is slowed by
        having children) and a proven ability to produce surviving children without male contribution. Notice that there is less of an imperative for youth in societies like that.”

        Are you actually telling men to go for a career-oriented single mom? Get the fuck out here with your female centric and solipsistic bullshit.

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      • No an r-strategist (as in sub-saharan African human populations) would just as easily pump and dump a woman out of peak fertility with an established brood of surviving children as a woman in her prime. Strong preference for younger women is more pronounced in a K-strategy situation, in which a man is looking to monopolize a single woman with the most remaining fertile years, and intends to do most of the providing himself.

        Next time think or perhaps use google before you launch into some limbic knee jerk reaction towards does anything that doesn’t vilify women over a certain age. I was not describing impregnating these women as a virtue or as a good long-term strategy. I was merely illustrating that under certain circumstances (that existed at some points in human history) utilizing older women for child-bearing was not a losing strategy. And that such women do have remaining reproductive value in such circumstances, even if they are diminished.

        Sometimes I wonder how this place is linked to HBD sites when half the comments read like the ramblings of sexually frustrated neckbeards. The other half really are insightful, occasionally.

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      • “No an r-strategist (as in sub-saharan African human populations) would just as easily pump and dump a woman out of peak fertility with an established brood of surviving children as a woman in her prime. Strong preference for younger women is more pronounced in a K-strategy situation,”

        Okay, I agree up to here.

        “Next time think or perhaps use google before you launch into some limbic knee jerk reaction towards does anything that doesn’t vilify women over a certain age.”

        That women, generally, start to lose their looks after 25 is a fact, not an attempt to “vilify women over a certain age”.

        “Sometimes I wonder how this place is linked to HBD sites when half the comments read like the ramblings of sexually frustrated neckbeards. The other half really are insightful, occasionally.”

        Who gives a shit about what you think is good or not, get your head out your ass.

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      • The best judge is porn.

        When does a woman go from “super hot” to “MILF” in porn? Around 25. No, it’s not uniform—some look young well past 30, some look MILFy at 23—but the point where the descriptions stop being “young”, “ripe”, or a variation and start being “MILF” are then, even though in our day and and age a woman being a mom at 25 is rare outside the ghetto (and very few people want black-ghetto-momma porn).

        Quite frankly, I think it’s 23 myself. Why? Simple. I’ve learned that the perfect age to guess any woman to be is 23. Guessing 18 or 21, and women 1) think you think they’re an immature college girl; or2) women think it’s cliche. Guess older (even 24) and women will start to think they don’t have that youthful freshness.

        So if I’m ever put in a situation where I have to “guess” a woman’s age (less so the more game I’ve learned—it’s definitely something to avoid, guys, its a shit test), I say 23 (unless I say 10 years old or 96—shit tests get shit, you know). Every single woman (i.e. 16-17+) gets flattered when I say 23, no matter how hard they try not to be. Even the 23 year olds.

        I’m betting that since the camera adds both weight and age to people, it’s a 23 in the real world, 25 on camera. I’ve seen IRL actors/actresses who play the mom/dad role on TV shows/Broadway plays/movies, and in person they always look way younger. Remember the mom from Everyone Loves Raymond? Looks mommyish-age (mid 30s) in the sitcom. IRL? Holy shit, could have told me 28-29 and there’s a good chance I would have bought it. And Bryan Cranston, the guy from Breaking Bad and formerly the dad on Malcolm in the Middle for a decade? Dude could totally pull off 40.

        Anyway, so 23-25 is the top of a woman’s game.

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    • yeah, so how badass was the 31 year old?

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 4:46 pm Hugh G. Rection

      It’s probably enough not to be fat to get hit on a lot.

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    • Drive your own life, don’t let the attention you get drive you, otherwise you’ll eventually find yourself on the side of some lonely road, all used up.

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    • Lost it to a guy twice your age, after you approached him. That’s not an accomplishment. At best, it’s sad. At worst, it’s dangerous.

      My advice on not being a slut? You seem decently intelligent, so maybe this’ll mean something to you.

      Embrace whatever anger you’re feeling from this comments section. Realize this kind of behavior will scar you in ways you can’t possibly understand yet at 18. Think about where you want to be in 15 years. Reconnect with your sense of shame. Find some humility in this fact – there’s a class of man out there that will bang anything that moves, no matter what it is or what it looks like, there’s no honor in being a woman who feeds that, and it says nothing about you but bad things. Disconnect from the “gender is socialized” BS that gets floated around online. Learn to find value in yourself beyond what you can do sexually, and take pride in yourself as a woman in other ways.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 9:10 pm gunslingergregi

        there is honor in taking care of men if men can go die in wars then woman should be able to serve them sexually and find honor in it

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      • No, I’m not saying there’s no honor in sex, I’m saying there’s no honor in letting sleazy, dirty men use you for sex when you’re still a child.

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      • You still living in Indonesia, bitch?

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 10:32 pm gunslingergregi

        pulls dick out of shmiggens mouth your mumbling
        and learn how to read

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      • Maybe honor in fucking a beta but chicks fuck me because it’s the most pleasurable thing they have in their lives.

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      • Cynthia’s post is a +1. You are speaking to your future self here “Nad”, it seems.

        Listen.

        Realize that most of your conditioning has been done by cultural Marxists, who want you to become food for the machine. “Soylent Green is made of people”. Happiness lies in going your own way and not allowing the machine to make you into grist for the mill.

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      • Yes, the socialist deconstruction of Western society begins and ends with our sexual norms. Telling women that they can be “just like men” only turns them into unhappy, lonely, frustrated sluts. It’s sad, how many girls buy into these days. Even sadder how most never seem to understand how easy it would have been to avoid it.

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      • Now THIS is what we need more of: more women who are willing to stand up and call bullshit on the gender equalist crowd.

        The rebuttal needs to come from women, if it comes from a man it’s not as effective as most fembots have already made up their minds before he even begins to speak.

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      • I work in a male-dominated environment, I’ve lived outside the country, I’ve got plenty of aging female relatives to judge the failure of feminism against, and I’ve been watching my friends self-destruct around me since middle school. I’ve got a leg up on some women, sure, but it’s not difficult to see where all this shit leads. The evidence is clearly apparent to anybody willing to let go of the Narrative and think for themselves. The sad thing is, standing out from the crowd terrifies women at a primal level, and most will never dare challenge it.

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      • Cynthia, this is because women are primarily (solely?) outer-directed people.

        An oldie-but-a-goodie here is the book “The Lonely Crowd” (and its companion piece, “The Hidden Persuaders”). America used to be teeming with self-directed people. Now it is teeming with people who define themselves by how others see them and what others want for them (including the men now… not a good development).

        “Game” is in part learning to subvert/pervert outer-directedness in dealing with others, and learning to ignore it for ourselves.

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      • Best advice to the girl so far, in your three replies above, cynthia.

        You need to follow Stingray’s lead and help construct an alt-feminosphere based on “red pill” principles. Game advice is solid for men, but girls have almost nothing truthful to rely on, and they turn into just the sad old women you describe, after a brief turn on the thorn-dildo carousel. They are being lied to just as surely as we were. Except men now have a whole community of truthtellers helping us prepare for the sexual revolution’s crash landing.

        Who do the girls have? Susan Walsh of Hooking Up Beta? Young women can do much better, as you just demonstrated.

        Matt

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      • It would be really hard for such a thing to get off the ground. Heartiste tells horny males that they can get all the poon they want by changing their persona. cynthia wants to tell girls they’re going to end up a withered husk if they don’t lay off the sweet sweet candy.

        Teenagers find adults to be so repugnant, that even envisioning themselves older than 30 is painful. A couple girls I dated in high school didn’t even believe they’d live that long; they wanted to burn out on e and die at 29. And these kids were MUCH smarter than average.

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      • “cultural Marxists”

        “socialist”

        Dance around the truth some more, goyim.

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      • So am I to conclude that you think all of this is due to the Joos? The German immigrants that came in the late 1800s brought Marxism with them. Were some of them Jews? Sure. But let’s not hold the view that the Jews are the only purveyors of Marxism in America. Because that would not be the truth. Ministah Farrakan doesn’t like the Jews much at all, but he sure does like Marx, Engel and Lenin.

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      • Marx didnt like Jews all that much either. His parents became protestants. So of course, after they fill him with Jew hate and he becomes a raging piece of shit that tries to kill us, and them, we get the blame.

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      • Sheesh, we’ve been through this dozens of times just in the past few months, yet the yiddlers keep trying the NAJALT spiel.

        The Jews were far, far, FAR overrepresented in circles of communist revolutionaries and fifth-column sympathizers.

        The original Soviet Politburo (or whatever they called it back then) read like a kosher garden party.

        And virtually all the “big name” instigators attempting to bring it into central and western Europe were Jews… and later on, America.

        It’s a philosophy of destruction and class envy, and a recipe for national disaster… which is why the Jews gravitate towards taking the lead in propagating it whenever and wherever they can… except amongst their own… they themselves are the ultimate Ethno-Nationalists.

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      • @Greg – I actually don’t find anything in your comment objectionable/prima facie incorrect, and certainly didn’t mean for my comment to be construed as a “NAJALT” comment. I am a New Yorker goyim who has lived in several major metro areas with strong Jewish populations, so I possibly know more than most that The Tribe is quite cohesive and is doesn’t really view us goyim as the same as them – after all, we are not “Chosen”.

        I just think that they are only part of the picture. Some people are natural busybodies, and want to control others. Totalitarians of any stripe need to be beaten back into their holes, if there is to be a future.

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      • Jews.

        There, I said it.

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      • I think you are letting our other totalitarians off to easily.

        Yes, folks like Eric Fromm (Frankfurt School) were Marxists and were Jewish, and the darker view of this is that the Jewish faith informed their Marxism – the idea that the Chosen Ones treated us goyim as inferior, and therefore set about constructing/implementing a secular religion (Marxism) that enabled the Tribe and disabled the current society (male and caucasian [nominally “Anglo-Saxon”-based]) for the Tribe’s gain. That may be true. Some days I think it is true, what with us living in the United States of Goldman Sachs as I write this.

        But let’s not ignore the other Marxists in our midst. Hey, discard the term if it’s too confining – it’s not “Marxists” we need to fear and guard against, so much as it’s totalitarians of any stripe. Is 0bama a Jooo? Well, no. But he sure is a totalitarian (and a fat head). Is he unusual? Well, no. He is merely a product of the machine.

        We have always been at war with Oceania.

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      • Just because there are plenty of shabbos goyim to go around doesn’t let the puppetmasters off the hook.

        All accounts will be settled… do the work of God and police your own, if you would avoid the coming conflagration.

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      • Yeah, but that Mao fella really like Chinese food, too.

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      • When I was 15 I was making up little dances and doing art projects with my equally young and virginal girlfriends. She was going to concert venues and asking men twice her age to tag team her.

        Look at the facial piercings and Miley Cyrus hair, this ship has sailed already. She already knows she’s a slut. She just wants permission to be one, and also to get some attention in a public forum. Heartiste’s advice would be relevant to girls who are 1) actually hot, and 2) not already well down the slut path.

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      • I think it’s a bit catty and immature of you to say this about someone who is much younger than you (I’m assuming).

        It’s disturbing how much you are relishing picking Nad Z apart.

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      • Not really the case. Catty? Actually, I think it’s a woman’s first instinct to save someone younger than she from the inevitable consequences of her own stupid behavior. We’re mostly compassionate creatures. I feel bad for this girl. I really do. She’s the kind of girl I’d like to take out for coffee and have a long, long talk with.

        I save my scorn, resentment, and full-blown hatred for girls my own age, who make their whorish behavior my problem, or who are in direct competition with me for men.

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      • Thank you. I think this delicate hothouse flower is mistaking some standard-issue female ‘tough love’ for picking someone apart – someone who VOLUNTEERED for this at that.

        I also think she took a wrong turn on her way to Jezebel.

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      • Nobody cares what you think. And this girl exposed herself and put her personal business out there to be picked apart. Stupid knows no age boundaries, and maybe she’ll think next time about what she puts on the internet for strangers to see. The repercussions can get a lot worse than a few catty comments, so keep your hand-wringing moralizing to yourself and go to a crocheting blog or something.

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      • Ditto on the activities. Worst we were doing at 15 was watching Tom Cruise movies obsessively. And that was only a decade ago.

        It’s really tragic how much of the female childhood experience has been removed (boys, on the other hand, are encouraged to be children until age 30 now). Pop culture firehoses little girls with sexuality now, instead of letting them mature at a decent pace. It’s tragic.

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      • Start looking at the credits at the end of various shows and movies and you’ll see it’s not some amorphous “pop culture” that is to blame.

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      • Greg, you know I’m fond of your pugnacity but can we give the race/”evil Joos” trolling a rest every few threads or so? It gets highly tiresome to scroll through, and I think it vexes our esteemed host as well.

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      • “… Start looking at the credits at the end of various shows and movies and you’ll see it’s not some amorphous “pop culture” that is to blame….”

        I am not following you

        What will we find in the credits?

        Do you mean who paid for the movie?

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      • Greg, you know I’m fond of your pugnacity but can we give the race/”evil Joos” trolling a rest every few threads or so? It gets highly tiresome to scroll through, and I think it vexes our esteemed host as well.

        First of all, dearie, it’s not trolling. I say things I believe are true and that people should know, if they have the ears to hear. Odd that I invariably get marked as the instigator, when I run a distant second to the more epithet-driven posters here, and more important, am usually the one RESPONDING to a given volley of bullshit by the pretty liars and race-baiters.

        Second, isn’t it ironic that you knew exactly what I was talking about when I said to “read the credits”? Others didn’t… which pretty much makes BOTH of my points on the “read the credits” mention.

        Third, you (of all people) don’t need to speak for the host… he’s not shy in letting his opinions be known, and he has the integrity to stick by his credo of dispelling pretty lies… even if a few of those chickens come home to roost. That’s the mark of character.

        Fourth, what’s truly vexing is hearing the same-ol’-same NAxALT spiels on thread after thread, when the various NAxALT issues have been covered ad nauseum.

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    • Take it easy, you small-souled chumps. You can’t get revenge on your ex-wife or slut girlfriend by piling on some chick online who reminds you of her at 18.

      Nad Z is a blank canvas at her age. (Well, maybe the canvas is punctured and streaked with bleach in places, but not irreparably.) No matter what her natural or unnatural disadvantages, she has plenty of time to get it right, and she has taken the proper first step by contacting this site so young.

      So imitate your master above and give her good advice, rather than reacting to the fact that she wasn’t as cute as your masturbation fantasy made her out to be. Actual vs. imaginary is the key social confusion factor of the internet medium: the photo is always something different than your mental picture, the image is always something different from the three-dimensional vibe, and the shock of difference is manifested in the resentment that skews assessment, rendering itself as an ugliness that isn’t wholly there.

      She has been lied to all her life, and it shows physically. Broken dolls need Daddy Game. You got any of that, or do you think pick-up is merely an IRL extension of hotornot.com?

      Matt

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      • King A, it’s an immutable and age-old fact of the internet: if you put yourself out there to get trolled and mocked, you will get trolled and mocked. The most any of us can do is learn to protect our privacy and realize that once something is out there, it never goes away. Ever.

        I’m glad she’s learning this harsh lesson at 18 rather than 28. Today’s naive, attention-seeking teenager is tomorrow’s wife, mother, employee, or co-worker. The more of them figure this out before it’s too late, the better.

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      • And I’m not speaking from ignorance, I once held a job where one of my duties was to screen applicants using, among other factors, their social media and internet presences. It was often shocking what people had out there, apparently thinking potential employers couldn’t find it.

        Posting personal information including face photos(!) while bragging about illegal sexual exploits is incredibly stupid. If the worst she gets from it long-term is some hurt feelings over anonymous troll comments, she’s a lucky girl indeed.

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      • Agreed. Just as when Angie Verona put out her big 14-year-old tits onto the internet, Nad Z got the reaction she deserved. And just like Verona, she had no earthly idea what she was doing because her oblivious/semi-perv dad allowed it to happen. This girl clearly has no reliable guidance to direct her with honesty and bluntness and care, which is why a men’s pick-up blog is her counsel of first resort.

        But it’s not the girl that’s the issue here — I doubted her self-description as “hot” from the start, and I doubt she is 18, by the way. The issue is the reaction of the commenters. Yes, it is good to correct one teenager’s proto-“attention-seeking,” but are they doing the world an infinitesimal service or are they releasing pent-up frustration? Whence the immediate enmity? I don’t get it. Is it because they felt betrayed by her inaccurate self-description? Is it because they wish they could revisit their own slut girlfriends at age 16, before their decade of cum-one-cum-all policy? The beta bitterness is a symptom of something.

        I give women like you a pass on the commentary — in fact, I encourage your advice: her elder sisters need to shame this girl fast, before the SMP ruthlessly does it for her. But she’s not a pinata for losers who look back from the other side of enlightenment, too late to fully reclaim their wasted omega/beta youth.

        Well, it is not too late for this girl, no matter the vengeful fantasies of the commentators. The women who replied immediately saw the truth of her potential. The men piled on, wishing her irredeemable sluttiness into a fact, and then advising her to get used to it, so they can keep casting bitter beta chuckles at her as she repeats their ex-wives’ craven behaviors.

        Matt

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      • The difference is, women are shaming her from a twofold motivation. The first is from a natural motherly/sisterly desire to keep younger girls out of trouble. We’ve (or at least the luckier among us) known older women who stepped in to give us protection and guidance in ‘tough love’ style when we were young and dumb, and I believe it’s an instinctual female reaction. The second motivation is less altruistic; women participate in a fairly brutal form of social bullying/’slut shaming’ against other women who disrupt the social order by giving away sex for free, ultimately lowering the ‘price’ of female sexuality in the SMP. I elaborated on this in another comment. So the motivations are both selfless and selfish.

        I can’t speak as clearly on the motivations of men since it’s outside my realm of experience, so I’ll defer to your explanation. I just thought they were reflexively angry because she didn’t fit their masturbatory fantasy of a ‘hot’ slutty 18-year-old girl.

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    • The way your picture is lit negates proper assessment, the prettiness of your eyes (if they are big, and pretty) is obscured, and your lips look thin, and cold instead of warm, and inviting. In that picture you look conflicted as to what look you are trying to achieve, so I would strongly advise you to take the advice offered, and lose the face furniture, the dark eye make up, the pink hair, and go for a look that centers on, and accentuates what natural youthful beauty you have.

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  12. How do I email the château with a question?

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  13. You forgot the most important advice. That she has to look for a man 10-15 years older.

    An 18 yo alpha bad boy who’s ready to commit is more likely to will dump her before she hits 30.

    A 30 yo alpha can find more peace in banging fresh 18 year old pussy. And they will age at the same rythm.

    Same-age couples where the man is an elegant 45 yo James Bond and the wife is a sexually worthless carcass are a disgrace.

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  14. [email protected]’s trolling again

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  15. Completely out of the subject, but what about Hugh Hefner, is he alpha or beta? The question may sound absurd, since the man erected (heh) an empire ou of pussy, but is he a beta provider chased by girls for his money and the opportunities he can give them or is he really alpha? Based on the informations available about his life before Playboy (which is not so much, I guess) and his public behaviour and “tells”, is it possible to know if he’s really alpha?

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    • From what I heard most of the women are there to hop on the fame wagon and he’s bringing the fame. On the other hand with all those options it would be hard for oneitis…but he has been married and cheated on. I’d say he’s closer to beta personally.

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    • Reality is much more complex . There’s no white and black but a 3D landscape full of all kinds of colors, smells, and textures.

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      • With Hef’s money and career-building power, he could be an Epsilon Sigma Chi with a cherry on top and still score 100’s of 10’s a year. At age 100.

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  16. “Pigs in a blanket taste tester”. I will never be able to down my favority IHOP breakfast after that.

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  17. Point 4 says this:

    when you do eventually navigate your mouth to his staff of surliness … pretend that you don’t know what you’re doing down there

    In other words, Point 4 advises being dishonest and misleading in what is hoped to become a serious long-term relationship. I do not believe that is the best advice, certainly not for all me.

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  18. Don’t really agree with the advice.

    Assuming ‘Nad’ is genuine and she really is 18, then the chances that she is deluded are also high. Her own perceived self worth is probably not nearly as high as she thinks it is. She’s probably a 7 whose taken break from facebook to do some attention whoring here.

    Getting hit on at the age of 18 is no great accomplishment, nor is losing her virginity at 15. Both are easier than falling over. Even her lust for bad boys is distinctly average. So, what I suggest we have here is a bog standard girl, who is completely interchangeable with millions of other girls.

    She’ll probably slut it up through her twenties, find that none of her sweethearts want her after 30 and then find herself descending into anger and bitterness.

    So far, so average.

    On the other hand, if she really were hot, then she would be aiming as high as she could and trying to tie some alpha down (through marriage) before her looks faded.

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    • “tie some OLDER ALPHA down…”

      If we’re really gonna talk about girl game, we should get this straight:

      SAME-AGE RELATIONSHIPS ARE BAD FOR MARRIAGE!

      Never were a good thing and never will. It’s an awesome cultural trend for a young alpha, but it’s disastrous when it comes to civilization and ethnic group survival.

      But I forgot that whites are fucked and no one gives a fuck about them.

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      • “SAME-AGE RELATIONSHIPS ARE BAD FOR MARRIAGE!”

        Yup…it works better if the guy is at least 3-5 years older than the woman if not more. His experience and hopefully alpha attitude will be able to make her submit to him.

        Most guys in their early 20s are still trying to find their balls. Guys dating women older than them are idiots even if they have no other option.

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      • Everything we do is evil, bro. Even things we don’t do and haven’t done.

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  19. on October 19, 2012 at 4:44 pm Hugh G. Rection

    I think you forgot to mention: No anal on the first date.

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    • …Or else you’ll get GBFM making fun of you, lozlozlzozlzolzz

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 10:37 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        heartsites is a lone beacon and shining hill of glory
        in a dark world ruled by whorey women over forty
        with sore buttholes and bernankiifed souls
        who bougt der spinster ticket riding 1,000 poles

        zlzoozlzllzbutehetxtxlzozozzozlz

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  20. If you are selective with your men and can keep your count in the low single digits before 30, you will be fine. I don’t know any men, alpha or otherwise, that insist on a virgin. I would not date a virgin, but that’s just me. You need to have high standards for yourself right now, not settle. By having high standards, you’ll end up with a lower count with guys that you want to be with. When I’m considering getting serious with a girl, I don’t have any kind of litmus test when it comes to numbers of past lovers, but her story has to make sense. For example, if a girl gives it up to a long time high school boyfriend or two, has a couple indiscretions in college and couple long term boyfriends, I’m not going to be scared off by 5-6 prior partners. But if the girl has no real past relationships to speak of and has picked up 12 partners from just “hanging out” or “hooking up” then she’s really only good for one thing. As long as you can explain your decisionmaking to a guy 8 years from now, you’ll be fine.

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    • I would never marry a girl unless I was the one she’s been with. Too much risk.

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    • I’d date a virgin…she’d even go to the top of the list of marriage material.

      If they had any previous partners…in this day and age where the law rapes a man in divorce, that’s not worth the risk to marry. My litmus test is if they are healthy and understand the risk of lotsa cocka to her value.

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  21. All that advice is well and good…but I bet it goes in one ear and out the other after “the tingle”. Unless she is one of the rare ones that is impressed by your logic.

    You tell that to a man, at least he’ll remember and put it to use.

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  22. Never met hot 18 yr old chicks with relatively good grammar so the girl might not be real.

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  23. on October 19, 2012 at 5:54 pm gunslingergregi

    there are no looks to fade allready looks 30

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  24. Tell her the trick about riding the cock carousel in the wall (as paraphrase by Peter O’Toole as Lawrence of Arabia below):

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  25. Actually, now I think about this, I’m wondering whether what she isn’t asking for permission to slut up. She is already a slut, she knows she’s a slut and her hamster is trying hard to rationalise it. So, what better place to come to for validation than the Chateau! Good choice Nad!

    At best Nad is a pump and dump. At best. The more I read that email, the more I think Yuk.

    So, here’s some updated advice for Nad. Get a slut mark tattoo (if you don’t already have one) on the small of your back, get another on the back of your neck. Buy loads of fishnet stockings and heals. Wear tiny skirts and tank tops. Hang around grungy bars and revel in the attention. Use mood altering chemicals. Let all the bad boys fuck you senseless for as long as they’ll have you. You know you want to!!!

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 7:19 pm gunslingergregi

      yea might be right spread as much joy as you can babe that might be the right answer

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    • I actually think this is the advice she really wants to hear.

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      • Hahah! Touché. Women can always be counted on for the most cutting of blows against other women.

        The trick is not minding that it hurts. (As above).

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      • We’re not as susceptible to the hamster spinnings of other women because we have hamsters of our own.

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      • Well, of course that is bullsh¡t. The entire fashion industry is built upon females shaming and bullying other women. In short, it works, and it works well.

        How many Manolos do you have in your closet, gal?

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      • Zero. $800 for a pair of shoes? My mother would spin in her grave.

        And you misread my comment. Of course female shaming and bullying works. This is exactly why we don’t buy it when an obvious slut says “I don’t want to be seen as a slut.” We don’t have any sexual motivations for validating her need for attention, so we’re able to call out a slut when we see one. Or do you think slut shaming is an exclusively male phenomenon?

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      • Spiralina, I think we’ve exhausted the “reply” options here, so I’ll cheat and reply to my own comment.

        Good on you.

        Oh, and I know that “slut shaming” is primarily a female activity. Men create society, and women preserve it. Slut shaming is a preservational activity.

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      • @Anonymous: “Men create society, and women preserve it.” I like that idea and wording very much. Very quotable.

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      • Yes, it’s a good way of putting it. It’s in the best interest of women to preserve society, since society is the only thing keeping them from being raped or left on their own to starve with their children.

        Which is why women who act to tear down the social order (i.e. sluts) are more hated/bullied by women than by men. Sluts lower the SMV ‘buying price’ for all women, since men are less likely to commit their resources in exchange for sexual access (i.e. marriage) if they can gain access for free. Also, if a slut sleeps with a married/committed man and becomes pregnant, that becomes a threat on resources the wife wants for her own children. It’s a primitive, but still very strong, territorial antipathy.

        Men of course, are fine with sluts because they can get free sex from them, although in the long run they’re bad for society.

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      • @Spiralina

        This. Exactly this. It’s one of the reasons why we ruthlessly punished and isolated the sluts at my college. We had a highly skewed ratio of men to women (in favor of men), and the sluts removed both our dating possibilities and the general level of respect the guys gave us. We actually cared about that more. Made it difficult to do anything when the guys thought we’d all do depraved sex acts at the drop of a hat. When a few of us act like that, the label gets applied to all of us.

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      • I am pleased by the responses. They are reality-based. Thank you.

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  26. Good grief. Nad, you need some new pics. Based on that one, I wouldn’t even let my NEPHEW go out on a date with you (and I hate his guts). Your hair is already a slut-pointer, and if you have visible tats or some egregious piercings, the message is pretty obvious.

    Pass.

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  27. Disturbing photo tweet: holy shit, looks like Anne Hathaway.

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  28. That’s her: https://www.facebook.com/mapquestit

    And that is why you don’t trust girls who identify themselves as “hot” on the internet. Jesus if you could make a car powered by female delusion we’d be free from foreign oil dependence in an instant.

    Have fun being a pump and dump for every third-rate concert promoter in Spokane. Also, your upper arms prognosticate bad things for your late twenties.

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    • the hamster wheel is a perpetual motion machine.

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    • The upper arms are a dead giveaway. She’ll be a chubster in 3 years, tops. Um, no thanks.

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    • Sad as it is, if a little girl like this is getting a lot of attention, she’s bound to over-inflate herself. Thinks that it’s about possessing a physical attractiveness beyond her willingness to spread her legs. She probably hasn’t seen how guys talk about her when she’s not in the room, nor thought about how it’s going to be when she’s 25 and still pulling this same crap.

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    • I take back my prior rating of this chick. This one’s a solid 4. Nowhere near hot and most likely a troll.

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      • Also, tell your friend Dana that she’s a good 8.5 if she’d fix her teeth. Too bad it appears that she’s a single mom.

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      • It seems that she restricted her privacy and now we can’t see her photos. But I saw her friend too and i agree that she was smoking hot, unfortunately she did appear to be a single mom, and also with lots of tattoo.

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      • Nad’s hamster ran into reality, which has sharp and pointy edges. It retreated to its wheel in private to spin the pain away.

        Soon, Nad will mount the carousel to seek solace.

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      • Yeah, took a second look. She’s probably a 4-4.5.

        Her friend, if she had good teeth, would be a 7.5.

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    • How in the hell is this chick even remotely think she is hot? Looks like emo trash with daddy issues to me. barf

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  29. on October 19, 2012 at 7:01 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    Off-topic but in regards to the tweet about Romney’s alpha behavior…I think he established his alpha cred irrefutably when, during the second debate, he told Obama to sit down…and Obama did.

    As much as I loved that moment, I am a bit tweaked at Romney for it: I wasted some very good Scotch when I laughed so hard it came out of my nose.

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  30. on October 19, 2012 at 7:50 pm The Fucking Writer

    We probably need a picture to be able to give our true advice.

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  31. Great! Now even fat ugly bitches call themselves hot.

    I’m done reading bitches’ ramblings on the internet.

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  32. “Even though I already get hit on, is he already thinking that? Does that mean I’ll never be able to date him or something close to him?”

    Hi! I break into people’s homes and take their shit. I notice here on the “arm your home!” website that people are putting bars in their windows because of people like me. Does thins mean I will have more trouble breaking into homes in future? Can you advise me on how best to continue my housebreaking career?

    ” if you’re going to slyly insult me I’d rather you not do it publicly”

    Please, babe – consider this reply a direct insult.

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  33. Most girls think they are hotter then they are because of facebook

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  34. Want to see again why 5 minutes of dominant Alpha is worth more than a lifetime of beta? Read this interview with Linda Hamilton about her marriage to and continuing unconditional love for James Cameron after he dumped her for a younger, hotter babe.

    http://www.popeater.com/2010/02/06/linda-hamilton-james-cameron-ego/

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  35. Seeing as how her Facebook privacy has obviously been changed since her page was linked here (you can’t really see anything good anymore), was this her too?

    Because if so, I’d say she could be hot in the above picture. She could also be fat, but it’s hard to tell.

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  36. I work with a mid 30s professional who is the real deal. Mother was a dance teacher, daddy very, very rich. and charismatic. She has been the best looking woman in every room she has been in since probably the 7th grade. She is 5 foot 12 inches tall and had her breasts and nose done as a teenager.
    The thing is, she is quite sane. She is entirely aware of the value of her hottness and what to use it for. She has recently ,married extremely well. She holds up her end at work although, fuck knows, she could quit tommorrow.
    What was her number? Only her servants would think to ask that question. In her circle of social equals,, not so much.
    If you are like this woman in every respect, I say go for it. Go ahead and spend a few weeks on a billionares yatch and return to shore with nothing but scrambled recollections and a wobbly walk and nothing much bad will happen to you. If your body can count all the way to 10, that is.
    OTOH, many are called and few are chosen
    I have spent some quality time with a young woman who was a fattie until she was about 20 and then morphed rather quickly into an extreme hottie. Even though she had a LOT more mental horsepower than the first woman, she is losing the race with sanity. She tells me nowadays that there must be a conspiracy plotting against her because lots of people stare at her wherever she shows up
    I cannot find words to say.

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  37. The eyes tell the tale: I have never met a slut who didn’t have those creepy, dead, black orbs for eyes.”

    The Thousand Cock Stare

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    • Tell me about it… those soulless, jaded eyes that reflect nothing but the longing and resentment for lovers past. I see too many young girls with them nowadays. Gotta invest more money in stocks for Purina Cat Chow.

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  38. The other giveaway, of course, is her labia. If it’s twisted and deformed, beyond all recognition, she has been poundth too much.

    The female generative organ is NOT made to have lots of sex. The labia and vagina loosens, deforms, and break downs from too much cock pounding. The slut mileage, on a female, becomes obvious (unless there is surgical intervention).

    The male generative organ, on the contrary, can pound all its pretty life and remain showroom-new.

    Ergo, per the Creator, Man was made to have lots of sex. Woman not so much. The Intent is in the Design.

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    • Loose lips sink ships.

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    • The female generative organ is NOT made to have lots of sex. The labia and vagina loosens, deforms, and break downs from too much cock pounding.

      It’s not so bad if it’s the same cock (husband-and-wife setup), but multiple cocks have quite different sizes and shapes, so her lovebox will also have to be constantly trying to twist into new shapes.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 9:15 pm driveallnight

        One cock rule, lzolllzzz.

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      • This is absolutely ridiculous and unscientific. A woman’s vagina is designed to pass multiple 8-9lb babies without damage, there’s no way ‘multiple cocks’ will change its shape or size unless she’s banging donkeys or something. The only factors that affect vaginal elasticity over time are aging and childbirth, and Kegels can help (somewhat) with both. Everything else, including tightness, shape, and size of labia, is genetic.

        Be more worried about the damage multiple cocks will do to her soul, emotional health, STI status and pair-bonding abilities.

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      • Virtually all anecdotal evidence I’ve read says differently. I wish my genitals were more resilient.

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      • My cousin is an OB/GYN and has seen literally thousands of them, and says there are no predicting factors. She’s seen virgins with really loose vaginas, and women with multiple partners who were very tight. The vaginal canal is lined with muscle, and the elasticity and strength of the muscle is mostly genetic but can be affected by exercise. In terms of the labia themselves, they’re like snowflakes – no two are alike. The only notably “beat up” looking vaginas are from women who recently gave birth, porn stars who do weird stuff with baseball bats and such, and older women.

        Now if you’re talking about right after sex, yes, the vagina is temporarily loosened. But it returns to its “natural” state, whatever that may be, within a few hours.

        http://blogs.laweekly.com/afterdark/2011/10/vaginas_the_myth_that_is_tight.php

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      • Yeah, I was taking that assertion with a grain of salt.

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      • True, true. My mom is really small, like me, both in stature and down there. She has had 4 kids, and says that it would shrink back to super tight each time, up until my last sib. Mom says that it never snapped back completely after him, but she had him late, in her 40s.

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    • Ergo, per the creator, man was meant to have a harem.

      If you actually talk to women who’ve lived in a polygamus marriage (multiple wives) they actually have a pretty good life.

      They dont have to service him 24/7
      They get their drama fix naturally
      Jeolousy is there and manageable because of the contract nature
      They have a cluck of friends who share the same interests in the same family
      They know they cant get too bitchy, because the alpha has options

      Win/win

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    • May not be scientific studies about this but if you watch porn videos you will notice that older – mature – women do not all have twisted ugly labia.

      but if they are the type who are into gang bangs and anal sex and have the face of an old used up whore ( lots of tattoos, body piercings etc etc ), they often have ugly twisted labia.

      Can not be coincidence…

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      • People who look “used up” either have really bad genes, or really bad, unhealthy habits. If a girl is regularly fisted, takes on baseball bats, does drugs, smokes and drinks too much, sure her body is gonna start coming apart. But a regularly used vagina of a reasonably healthy woman is meant to snap back to original shape until the woman is menaposal.

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    • “The other giveaway, of course, is her labia. If it’s twisted and deformed, beyond all recognition, she has been poundth too much.”

      Has nothing to do with sex but a lot with aging. I’m not having sex and my labia now looks “older” (twisted and deformed?) compared to five or ten years ago. I’m even thinking about plastic surgery now!

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      • on October 22, 2012 at 2:25 pm driveallnight

        Shut up, Maya!

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      • Well, here – if we are going to believe Wikipedia – (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labiaplasty) it actually says that the causes of labial hypertrophy are, among others, ‘mechanical stresses characteristic to coitus, masturbation, childbirth, … ‘ so I was wrong saying that it is only caused by aging. Apparently there are many different causes for this condition.

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      • Gross, Maya! Do you ever stop trolling?

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      • Jesus, Maya. What do you masturbate with? Anyway, you are looking at your genetic destiny, mostly, and maybe some bad habits. Contrary to what the boys around here say, a woman living in the first world has no respectable reason to look “older” by 30. We got heaters, air conditioners, sunglasses, fever reducers and the like. Do you look worn out elsewhere on your body? If so, have you been eating shit for years, being sedentary, partying, drinking, smoking, tanning, forgetting to wear sunblock and not getting enough sleep? My mom looked like a teenager when she was your age.

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  39. I guess everyone has heard about this new movie?

    Girls as young as 12 who are posting images of themselves online wearing lingerie, because they want to ‘feel sexy – like Megan Fox,’ have become the subject of an award-winning new documentary.

    Sexy Baby: A Documentary About Sexiness and The Cyber Age, opening in U.S. movie theaters tomorrow, reveals how a generation of children now gets their sex education from online porn, thanks to Facebook, smart phones and instant access to the Internet.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2219683/Sex-ed-porn-posing-half-naked-feel-sexy-like-Megan-Fox-How-digital-age-influencing-girls-young-12.html

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    • interesting film idea – from the comments section of the article – a thought I have had many times – “once the generation that can remember that people had morals dies off” – that will be the tipping point ..it’s about 30 – 50 years away

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    • Bernanke is starting the butthexing early

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  40. her look is representative of her mind ..her mind, mangled perspective and poor communication is representative of the culture ..the culture has completely fucked another one

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  41. With respect to your tweet;

    White knights who put their women on pedestals need to rethink their worldview. http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-16932-post-290250.html#pid290250

    Have you ever considered making a compendium of instances of women doing crap like this?

    You could call it, ‘Whore Stories’ (a play on the phrase ‘war stories’.)

    The utility of this compendium would be to provide a ready source of real-world evidence of women pursuing dual mating strategies and fucking the loser-cads (the guy isn’t even good-looking) while raising the costs of courtship and sex for higher quality men who pursue her with a higher effort mating strategy.

    Basically that women are giving the low-effort strategy for poor quality men the higher reward while giving the high effort strategy for high quality men a (significantly) low reward.

    The point would be to demonstrate to men that the price that women demand of men pursuing a long-term and higher effort (higher effort as it’s easier to become a jersey shore douchebag than a successful doctor or lawyer) mating strategy isn’t reflective of their value. That they are getting ripped off. And that it isn’t worth pursuing any more, for any woman.

    While some might rejoin with “But that’s not proof, that’s just anecdotal evidence”. Yeh well, if science and logic won hearts and minds, we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. There’s a reason why feminists get English and Media degrees rather than Science ones.

    Another example to add to the potential compendium:
    Wife cheats on billionaire banking dynasty heir with rapper

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2153789/Rothschild-heiresss-marriage-Goldsmith-scion–falls-rapper-called-Jay-Electronica.html

    Or perhaps the comments section I mentioned back in a comment a while back:

    (Previous comment of mine)
    “http://www.evanmarckatz.com/blog/is-there-anything-wrong-with-hooking-up/#more-11945

    In the comments section all the women are saying that if they think the guy is relationship material they won’t hook up with him but if they think he isn’t then they will.

    If there is a better reason not to be relationship material, I don’t know what it is.

    There is nothing more twisted than women thinking forcing a guy to pay full price for what she would have otherwise given him for free had he not expended such effort to become long-term material, is some sort of a reward.

    It’s not a reward, it’s a loss. And when you reward ‘supposedly’ good behaviour with losses instead of gains, expect less of that behaviour. Stupid broads.”

    Such a compendium would become a useful resource for waging war against the exploitative cuckoldist/feminist worldview.

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  42. on October 20, 2012 at 7:09 am youareallwankers

    She is 5 , if you take the shitty rings from mouth and give nice haircut , she would be a solid 6

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  43. “What psychopaths have too much of, we could all use in small doses—or so argues Kevin Dutton in a new book called The Wisdom of Psychopaths. Easy charm, unassailable self-confidence, outsize ego, and resistance to self-blame are among the qualities that horrify us in Anders Breivik, say, but seem admirable in John F Kennedy. “Indeed, those at the higher end of the psychopathic spectrum are often stars in the professional world,” writes Robert Herritt in a mostly favorable review at The Daily Beast.”

    MS(J)M behind the Chateau as usual.

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  44. Oh man what’s more likely, a genuinely hot girl sent this or a Level 4 warpig emailed this to assuage her ego and hamster. I, like you, heartiste, let my wishful thinking take over. (maybe bring back the cynicism?). The evidence for this girls uber unhotness was in the first line, “So I’m 18. Chick. Lost my virginity at 15. So. Basically. I’m hot.” because sounds like it was written by Captain Hamster.

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  45. Losing virginity at 15 =/= hot.

    I’m sure this point has been made but it bares repeating…

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  46. Nad,

    1. Don’t overexpose yourself: here or anywhere else. Everyone values what they have to work for.

    2. Looks: its a shame to me to see someone young dye their hair or wear a lot of makeup. You don’t have anything at this point you need to cover up. Don’t do it before its necessary. There is a difference between “hot” and “beautiful.” Most men prefer “natural” beauty. Or at least a look that appears to be natural.

    To be perceived as valuable, you need to set yourself apart: be distinctive. Once upon a time, the things you have done to your appearance may have set you apart. Now its very common to see that kind of look. Common is not valuable.

    Only in our times could a woman so easily set herself apart by being feminine: flying the female flag (long hair) and feminine clothing will set you strides apart. Another female poster and I have made ourselves a pants ban and are instead wearing only skirts and dresses. After only a few months, I’m at the point where pants feel strange. (Not to mention my DreamMan loves the way I look.)

    3. Comportment: depends on your goals. Most people can’t learn through anything except direct experience. So, you’re going to get banged up (no pun intended) some in the process. How you behave will be directly proportional to how bruised you get.

    As a thirty-four-year old giving advice to you, the most important thing you can know is that time is not on your side. Make the most of what you have when you have it and know when its time to settle down (not the same as “settling”).

    Good luck in love!

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    • She can always join the military?

      In the army a 5 is the equivalent of a 10

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      • yeah, she seems the military type.

        but she’ll be a raging slut in the military, that’s just the nature of the environment. not that she ever sincerely intended to be otherwise.

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      • A skewed attractiveness scale? Yes, but mostly if you’re talking about the Army. There are some hot girls in the Air Force.

        OT, but… it is entirely possible, but just as many women go the other way completely. It’s hard to work in an environment of 85-95% men if you’re spreading your legs for all of them. Or worse, just some of them. The ability of a military woman to get anything done is largely dependent on the level of respect the men feel like giving them, and it’s impossible to maintain that if she’s sleeping around. Sex causes amazing amounts of damage to unit cohesion/morale.

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    • Listen to this woman!!!

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    • What do you think of a flat-shoes ban? I’m considering swearing off buying shoes without at least a bit of a heel (save for working out), but I’m a bit worried about the physical damage heels supposedly can cause. I’ve noticed, though, that most of the articles I’ve seen citing studies telling women high heels are bad for them are written by women who simply don’t want to bother building the muscles necessary to go about daily life in heels. Thoughts?

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      • There are a lot of cute, feminine shoes that are flat or have a slight heel for everyday wear. Save the really sexy heels for special occasions.

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      • I have a nice pair of ballet type flats from Naturalizer that are cute and comfortable. I think a good rule of thumb might be no flats that could be worn with socks. Then one is getting into hospital nurse/granny look.

        For work, I wear heeled boots (ankle or knee depending) from Clarks. Also very comfortable and very simple styling. The heels are two inches probably and I’m not talking stilettos- just a regular heel.

        I agree with Lara about sexy heels being for special occasions.

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      • Have you tried the Cole Haan Air Baccara ballet flat? They’re really pretty and also comfortable. Repetto also makes gorgeous, feminine flats that last forever, although they run pricier. I’m 5’9″ and have the grace of a baby deer learning to walk, so sexy high heels are out of the question on most occasions. I just try to keep the legs nice and toned to make up for it 😉

        ***ducks out before men’s game blog becomes girly shoe-gabbing session***

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      • No, I haven’t, but thank you for the tips!

        Come back, Spiralina, come back! If they complain we can throw shoes at them! 😉 Besides, this is education for Nad. Anything for the children.

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      • What do you mean by flats that could be worn with socks? Can’t all flats be worn with (nice, thin) socks?

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      • What do the men here think? High heels for everyday wear? If so, how high can we go before it starts looking slutty?

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      • High heels are like combing over a bald spot

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      • Do you mean that they’re better than nothing, but still not that good?

        The simile confuses me a bit, as personally a man losing hair is either a slight negative or neutral, but a man who is ashamed of balding frustrates me. It’s a natural male phenomenon.

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      • They shouild be outlawed, like heroin.

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      • Why do you say that? Too attractive? Done to death?

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      • Cuz a lot of the time it covers up a mediocre body.

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      • on October 22, 2012 at 2:06 am Days of Broken Arrows

        LOL! This makes a really good point — women think heels will magically fix everything. Instead they play up what’s wrong with the woman to begin with. They really only look good on hot women.

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      • plus a lot of women who wear high heels can’t even walk in them properly. if you’re stumbling around in heels like a gimp, they’re too high for you.

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      • Platform high-heels make every chicks walk like a crackhead. Ladies, do you really wanna look like you have a drug problem that deprives you of bowel control?

        Think about it!

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      • on October 22, 2012 at 5:47 am Mr. Kissyface

        Heels make the chick look like someone who wants to be on a shelf eating bonbons and pays not attention to her feelings. Now what I want is a tomboy looking but very slim and NATURALLY beautiful and wiry girl who’ll go hiking with you all day and then want the most depraved sex imaginable.

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      • What do the men here think? High heels for everyday wear? If so, how high can we go before it starts looking slutty?

        Just a girl

        I doubt a lot of men would demand you wear high heels everyday.

        but yes we tend to prefer women in high heels

        On the other hand, very high heels make any woman look like a stripper or a slut.

        the higher , the sluttier

        So don’t go too high.

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      • Do we really prefer high heels on chicks? I certainly don’t. I’d like to see a survey on the issue.

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      • Thanks for the opinions, everyone!

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      • What do the men here think? Is heels every day a good thing or a bad thing? If it’s a good thing, what do you think is an appropriate height/heel width?

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      • we don’t really care if you wear heels every day because we don’t want to see you every day.

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    • By the way, it’s interesting to hear you’ve sworn off pants. I’ve sworn off buying new pants myself. When a pair wears out I replace it with a skirt or dress and a new pair of stockings or two. My decision was made partially due to what I’ve learned on this site and others like it, and partially because I’ve simply been having a lot of fun with feminine clothing and style lately.

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      • I find skirts and dresses to often be more comfortable and figure flattering. They are a little more forgiving than many pants and jeans. I think a long skirt and boots, or a sweater dress and tights, are very cute cold weather styles.

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      • I totally agree. And don’t you find that these kinds of clothes are more readily available now? On my late summer and mid-fall shopping trips, I practically bought out the store because if Mad Men goes off the air, I want to be stocked up! 🙂

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      • I’ve been meaning to watch that show just to drool over a well-dressed society. What do you think?

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      • I don’t watch it, but I think there’s no denying its had an impact on fashion and the revival of the everyday dress.

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      • Yes, the important thing when swearing off pants is to wear something else instead 😉 I had some confused people IRL when I explained the ban. lol My reasons are the same. Glad to here we are growing in numbers!

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      • *hear*

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      • ^^THIS, Heartiste, may rival your greatest contribution yet.

        Because of some major changes I have made (thanks to CH’s first/best contribution), my wife has been on a quest to find and wear more hot-sexy-pretty.

        It’s win win all around.

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      • Finding such clothing is more difficult than you’d imagine. There is so much terrible women’s clothing out there.

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  47. God you guys are awkward and creepy.

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  48. on October 20, 2012 at 3:12 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    Heartiste, you have to read this. You simply have to read it. Use Google translator, ask Roosh or someone else to translate it for you, but read it. You’ll thank me later.

    It’s so perfect for the manosphere you won’t believe it.

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  49. The “I lost my virginity at an early age means I’m hot” logic only works for guys. Feminism fails another girl

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  50. OT

    “All women, whatever age, rank, profession
    or degree, whether virgins, maids or widows,
    that shall impose upon, seduce or betray into
    matrimony any of His Majesty’s subjects, by
    scents, paints, cosmetics, washes, artificial
    teeth, false hair, iron stave hoops, highheeled
    shoes, bolstered hips, or padded
    bosoms shall incur the penalty of the law
    enforced against witchcraft and like misdemeanors
    and, upon conviction, that marriage
    shall stand null and void.”

    —Act of British Parliament—1770

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    • And we fought those guys over a tax on tea? I hardly ever even drink tea.

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      • Yeah but those guys are now fucked even worse than we are.

        It’s all in the genes. Whitey is a failed experiment.

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      • it ain’t over till its over…

        Most beta/mangina/white knight behavior is economically based; being a pussy is expensive. When the money goes bad, look out.

        (Cue GBFM)

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      • naah, it’s just that we had a shining time, and it may be that, this time is coming to a close(be it in a 50 years, or 150…) Every nation and civilization goes through that, we’r no failed experiments, we are nothing diferent than others, it’s just that our shining moment of history lasts really long, by now.

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    • zlolozlzlozlzolzzlozl

      If that law was passed and enforced, 100% of marriages would be declared invalid. Well… aside from Third World arranged marriages.

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  51. OT – Once upon a time this was America. No more…

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  52. Depends on many factors, ethnicity being one of them. If a White or Black girl is legitimately attractive (7+) as a teenager and does not let herself go and/or get fat, she’ll be hot throughout her 20’s, still very appealing in her 30’s and 40’s and probably make a pretty good-looking grandma. Hispanic girls are often pretty hot until they hit about 30/32 or so, then something terrible happens to them virtually overnight and they turn from a swimsuit model into Frankenstein’s monster’s grannny, nothing gradual about it. East Asian girls tend to look more or less the same from about 17 to 55, at which point the porcelain vase starts to show some hairline cracks and they kind of shrivel up.

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    • Hispanics, except for the Caribbean group, are half-American Indian, and that race is extremely prone to obesity.

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  53. @GeishaKate”Pants ban” – I like that! In April I swore buying pants (other than for working out). Due to financial limitations I’m continuing to wear the pants I already own until they wear out, and replacing them with a skirt or a dress when they become irreparably beat up. I wear skirts/dresses about 50% of the time right now.

    I’m also considering swearing off buying flats (other than sneakers for working out). Heartiste and other men here, what do you think of this idea, considering the medical science regarding long-term high heel wear? I know heels are good for the gina, legs, and ass, but I’m worried about giving myself arthritis or tendon damage and possibly needing surgery. Right now I have one pair of nice flats that I try to wear twice per seven day period to give my feet and joint a rest. The I rest of the time I wear comfortable, well-made shoes with a 3″ heel. When I’m dressing up for a fancy occasion (or the bedroom), I wear 4″ stilettos. I spend 5-10 minutes stretching out my legs every evening, in addition to some brief stretching after working out.

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  54. Another date with financial chick. It ended up In her Porsche SUV parked in the darkest part of the side lot of a dive bar. She always swallows, but then she demands more in return. I give it to her. Why not?
    Together, by our rude lust, we betray her husband, her tribe, her smoking hot daughter and then as the sweat is drying she inevitably tries to sell me a lot of long term bonds at a for shit interest rate
    I have never butthexed her. My instincts told me that taking sloppy seconds following TheBernanke would not help me reach the after-life.

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  55. I think you (girl) should take care to exercise, eat healthy, not smoke, barely drink, and find yourself a good career. Educate yourself about the world and be responsible. This will put you in a good position to be attractive throughout your life.

    I personally don’t think that promiscuity is always bad. Wisdom and grace are attractive, and those could potentially come with experience. Although girls who get around are often less attractive for relationships, it’s correlation, not causation. Be intelligent and make good decisions based on rational self-interest, and you will be a choice girl for a long-term relationship, especially compared to a drunken party slut who works at Chick-Fil-A and spends her time snorting coke in the bar bathroom.

    I read an article recently about the girlfriends of Mick Jagger and Paul McCartney in their primes… They weren’t party girls; they were homebodies with commitment mindsets. Of course, I’m sure they were cheated on all the time (at least Jagger’s girlfriend was), but at least their rockstars came home to them, and McCartney married his. Think about what made them different than all the other good looking girls… Maturity, class, intelligence, self-discipline, emotional support?

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  56. Nad Z. is facially a natural 5 in my opinion, if one looks past the godawful haircut and the scrap metal hanging from her face.

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  57. Who gives a shit what this bitch says?

    Women say all bunch of crap and do the exact opposite almost all the time. She’ll fuck unatainable guys ’till she’s sored and then start complaining ’bout how there ain’t any good men left.

    Fuck , you gotta’ be pretty retarded to take at face value what a 18yr old slut who lost her virginity at 15 says.

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  58. http://FunnyOrDie.com/m/7aca

    Love how at the start she starts getting gina tingles….and then…

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  59. In case anyone didn’t see it: http://hetexted.com/text/1350476473

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    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! You guys are hilarious. Hopefully no hamsters were harmed in the making of that prank. I want to know who’s behind the butterfinger comment. ROTFL

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  60. Dear potential slut…

    I think you may be over simplifying the sexual marketplace that young females face.

    There are effectively four different marketplaces that a young female can choose to participate in
    the lesbian hook up scene
    the lesbian long term relationship scene
    the hetero hook up scene
    the hetero long term relationship scene

    Susan, you should pause for a moment and consider the choices facing a young woman who is a number of standard deviations beneath the mean in terms of attractiveness to young men.

    The evidence is that many of the least attractive females can choose between lesbianism and the hook up scene. There are just no prospects of long term relationships available to some young women.

    I think if you look at the statistics, you will see that in any random group of black females, a large % will be lesbians, and in a random group of white females, a small % will be lesbians
    If you examine the statistics, it is clear that female homosexuality is driven by what is most convenient for the female, what is popular in her social group.

    First example, google the statistics on women who were raised by lesbians. Women over 25 who were raised by lesbians are more than TEN TIMES as likely to be lesbians themselves as women who were raised by heterosexual women. This is strong evidence that lesbianism is learned behaviour, not genetic

    Another example, if you spend time among Smith College alumni, what they will pretty much tell you is that at Smith a very large percentage of the students practice a lesbian lifestyle while at college. Upon graduation, more that 80% of the physically attractive Smith alumni start practicing a heterosexual lifestyle and eventually marry men.

    If you look exclusively at the Smith graduates who are extremely physically unattractive, more than half of them continue to live a lesbian lifestyle after graduation and never marry men.

    Again, there is no proof here, but the strong evidence is that lesbianism is determined by a female’s social group, not by her genes.

    How does this impact black women vs white women?

    Well, if you have population model in which you divide women in to the group that is able to attract a male for a long term relationship, and the women unable to attract a male for a long term relationship, you will find that 90% of white females are able to attract some male for a long term relationship and only 30% of black females are able to attract some male for a long term relationship.

    Assume that of the females unable to attract a male for a long term relationship, 20% of those will decide to live a lesbian lifestyle.

    Do the math for black females. 70% of black females can’t attract a male for long term relationship. 20% of those decide to live a lesbian lifestyle. 70% times 20% = 14% of black women living as lesbians

    Do the math for white females. 10% of white females can’t attract a male for a long term relationship. 20% of those decide to live a lesbian lifestyle. 10% times 20% = 2% of white women living as lesbians

    Again, I invite others who can explain the numbers with a different mathematical model to chime in. I don’t claim to have all the answers & want to hear other explanations.

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    • Bullshit. Homosexuality isn’t ‘learned behavior’, it’s just an aberration from the norm ,akin to a birth defect. The numbers I’ve heard are 5-7% of any human population are likely homosexual, higher in certain areas where they congregate, such as NYC,SF, Portland, Albuquerque, Key West, etc.

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      • A song as crappy as “I Kissed a Girl [and I Liked it]” became #1 by resonating with women. Here in Florida, at least 80% of women under 45 are bisexual.

        The most aggressive guys don’t become gay in prison due to anything akin to a birth defect.

        Pretty lies are supposed to perish her, Wolfie62, not propagate.

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      • It’s both an aberration from the norm and learned behavior. I think arvind is right overall. And of the few attractive lesbians, they tend to have been molested by some male (or female) relative or are otherwise mentally screwed up.

        I also wonder if some LUG (lesbian-until-graduation) activity among college girls is due to the fact that 20 year old guys aren’t as attractive as older men, but there aren’t too many available older guys in a university town.

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      • About 25 years ago, about 80% of all US college students were ‘part Cherokee’. It was cool to be Indian at the time. Today, it’s cool to be ‘bi’. Who knows, 20 years from now, it may be cool to claim to have marshmallow eyes. Can’t say I’ve ever come across anyone who ‘became’ gay in prison. And every homosexual (male and female) I’ve ever talked to said they knew they were somehow different by about age 4 or 5. 20 year old guys being less attractive than older men and college girls wanting older men are both delusional beyond description. Doesn’t work that way on this planet…..I’m sure you wish it would.

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      • It’s cool to *claim* to be bi.

        Most actual bisexuals really struggle with it. It’s probably the least supported part of the GLBT community – we ruin the Narrative. There’s very little acceptance for bisexual men in any way, from anyone. For women, well, lesbians are usually downright hostile, straight women aren’t in the dating pool, and it’s a kinky fantasy for straight men.

        Other than that, you’re absolutely right.

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      • on October 22, 2012 at 2:35 pm driveallnight

        The only thing gays hate on more than a bi is a tranny.

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      • Had a roommate many years ago who was always talking about wanting to ‘convert’ lesbians. He was a pathetically screwed up little man.
        I actually went on a date with a lez a couple of years ago. Didn’t know she was one until dessert. That was my last dinner date ever, guaranteed.

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      • @driveallnight

        My state, there GLBT community is definitely more accepting of trans* women than bi. It’s really strange. And for a group that wants to present itself as open and accepting of all, the hostility is revolting.

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      • 20 year old guys being less attractive than older men and college girls wanting older men are both delusional beyond description. Doesn’t work that way on this planet…..I’m sure you wish it would.

        Really? Which planet are you from, dawg?

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      • In regards to the LUG thing, I’d say you’re almost there. Yes, it has to do with the appeal of 20-something men, but more from a skill/experience level that physical attractiveness. Horny college guys are like baby rattlesnakes – no self-control, few inhibitions, fueled by pure hormonal instinct, and likely to over-game in frightening ways (ie, talking her back into bed after she’s put the brakes on). Girls are very much aware, even if it’s just subconsciously, that men can hurt them very badly.

        The appeal of LUG is that it removes a lot of these problems. It’s just simpler on a lot of levels. Reduces the risk involved. The emotional package of wants and needs is compatible. Fewer problems expressing what one needs. Even ground with regards to physical strength. Questions of pregnancy are removed. There doesn’t have to be penetration. Larger range of acceptable looks. Greater chances for cuddling. Level of intimidation is reduced, less chance of being over-gamed into a situation you do’t want to be in, and it removes the threat of physical coercion.

        In my experience, not that it matters, real lesbians tend to hate the LUGs.

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      • Actually, there are instances of “cultural” homosexuality, where people are socialized towards that sort of behavior, separate from genetic/inborn inclination. Arab society, in the Middle East, for example. You’d be amazed at the percentage of men who engage in homosexual conduct there. Your numbers on the “actual” (ie, inborn/genetic/natural whatever) percentage of homosexuals are correct, but other factors can influence these things.

        Plus, women tend to be a lot more flexible with their sexuality than men are.

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      • About homosexuality

        Same as with most things,
        sometimes people are born that way, sometimes it is a “learned” behavior

        it is a bit of nature and nurture

        But in this day and age I would think a lot of homosexuals were not born that way.

        Our culture encourages homosexuality.

        You know like those girls in college who are “temporarily” lesbians
        they were not born that way, and they are more bi-sexual than homosexual

        Our media wants us to believe there are a lot of homosexuals but that is a lie, maybe 3 % of the population is.( should have saved the link )

        the rest are simply people who would do it with anything from a ham sandwich to a same sex partner.

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      • it is a bit of nature and nurture

        yes, although girls and europeans have more ‘fluid’ sexual orientations.

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      • The one really big difference regarding sex in general between Europe and the US is that Europeans talk about sex very little, they just have it. Americans incessantly talk about nothing but sex, but the only ones actually having any are the ones who are technically not supposed to – the teenagers.
        Similar applies to homosexuality. Most Europeans will pretty much just shrug any comments about it off and move on. Americans will huff and puff and strut around like Super Rambo, anxious to make sure no one within a 5-mile radius could ever even insinuate anything like that towards them. Well, the men, anyway. Americans are also deeply disturbed by and very uncomfortable with grey areas and subtleties (in any field, not just sex), which are no big deal and daily common fare in Europe.

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      • … Americans are also deeply disturbed by and very uncomfortable with grey areas and subtleties (in any field, not just sex),…

        And Europeans always think they are better than Americans…

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      • I’ve heard this sentiment several times from non-Americans, and while I understand where the stereotype comes from, I don’t think it’s true for a lot of people. You have to get to know us.

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  65. on October 22, 2012 at 5:54 am Subway Masturbator

    What happened to the poor hot chick wannabee? She’s got the carousel on quadruple speed now to show us we’re all wrong!! Oh, the humanity

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  66. what’s with all the fuglies coming to the chataeu claiming they’re hot? gtfo, srsly.

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  67. If you like to chase chubbies or cougars, please do not send me examples of your “game”. You don’t need any. 20 minutes ago

    Yes, you only need game if you are chasing young girls. If you want someone more mature, like me, it’s true that you don’t need to read this blog, but you will still need good personality (you have to be kind, loving, not lazy etc.) which is probably even more difficult to achieve.

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  68. I tend to agree with others about “settling” – it isn’t fair to the guy/girl being settled on as they deserve someone who feels they are the best thing ever. I have a friend who married an older woman – 34 – and she makes his life miserable. I’ve told him several times to kick her to the curb, rather then put up with her sh*t, but he’s beta through-and-through.

    Yeah – at 18 it never crosses my mind that a girl, even if she is a slut, has had the opportunity to really ramp up her numbers. Of course, by 22 her numbers could well be over 100 if she’s a slut – I tend to allow 10 up to age 20, and another 10 up to 25 – as a “high-normal” count for a non-slut – that is 2 per year, pretty generous… Anything more, and she’s been used more than a beach-towel and I like “fresher” prey.

    I always figured there is a major difference between men and women – I can wash it off, but she can’t wash it out. That is what it boils down to. So after I shower, I’m just as I was before, but with a woman each partner lays down wear and tear that detracts from her market value – like a car. Men are like houses – they go up in value over time, women are like cars – as soon as they are driven off the lot, their price plummets… The more miles she has on her – the less value… So every partner over the norm subtracts from her. So a 10 may be a 6 – at least for men with options…

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