Women Don’t Handle Rejection Well

Rum writes:

On a parallel track [to women being less familiar than men with continual horniness]; modern American women have no skill at all in coping with sexual rejection. If they come on to you straight-on and you tell them “No!!” – you will not see much gracious-ness or even sanity in their response. They may well try to hit you as their brains short-circuit and go into panic mode.

Astute observation. I’ve had a few girls whose looks I didn’t much care for come on to me in the manner of a man on the hunt. When I say “come on to me”, I’m not cavorting with literary license. I mean, the women cold approached me and asked me out, asked me to join them for a drink, or, in one memorable case, asked me to take her back to my place.

Since these women were not physically acceptable to me, (and since I was dating around at the time and had my sexual urgency dampened), I turned them down. I was nice about it. A simple “No, thanks”, and the girl’s hopeful bright face would immediately darken, her features turn upside down, and she would shuffle back into the shadows a crestfallen hunchback of unanticipated crushing defeat.

One girl I did this to nearly broke into tears, and even in the dim lounge light I could see her lower lip tremble. She then re-approached me later in the night and shouted at me that I was an asshole, jabbing a finger into my chest. (My steel-reinforced pec easily deflected the projectile.) Of course, all eyes turned accusatorially in my direction. You can never say the white knight brigade, men and their female instigators, pass up a chance to fly to the aid of a woman in distress of her own doing. Just a friendly reminder that the unforgiving, stark reality of the sexual market and sex differences massages perception so thoroughly that witnesses to female tribulation automatically assign her any and all benefit of the doubt, and guilt is readily and instantly assumed to be the burden of the man ensnared in the altercation. This perception breaks only under a preponderance of unassailable evidence to the contrary, which is almost never gathered or examined in the cock-propped hothouse of a nightclub. I thus beat a hasty retreat.

It’s fair to say that all these girls (not many in total, but enough to draw a generalization about women who would be in similar circumstances) reacted to my rejecting them in a despondent, tail-tucked way that would rival the most maudlin beta male display of public sexual humiliation.

It’s easy to figure out why. Most women are not accustomed to sexual rejection, delivered straight up like a hot lance to the soul. Not even the less attractive ones have this experience, because there is usually a man sufficiently low enough in the mating hierarchy, and desperate enough for sexual relief, who would accommodate these lonely ladies’ wishes. A woman who approaches a man for sex instinctually believes, with some justification, that her offer will be received with pleasant surprise and cooperative eagerness.

Since she believes this, and since taking the approach initiative feels so strange to her female sensibility, the less attractive woman who pursues this inverted courtship strategy will generally approach only men significantly higher in value than the men she would normally get by waiting to be approached and pursued. Some of these out-of-her-league men will abide, because a convenient one night stand, even one that will be less exciting for him, is hard to turn down. But some of these men won’t, for a variety of reasons, not least of which is the fact that dating attractive babes tends to sour men on wasting even minimal time perfunctorily pump and dumping good-to-go plain janes.

The average woman doesn’t have the wealth of experience that the average man has with direct, active sexual rejection. When, on those rare occasions, she does experience it, her state control is shattered and her negative emotions come flooding to the surface, bobbing like dead fish on a polluted lake. This manifest wretchedness will evoke feelings of sympathy and even misplaced guilt in the man who did the rejecting, which is a point against any belief in the moral superiority of women, who rarely, if ever, feel similar sorts of sympathetic outpourings for the much greater numbers of men they reject in the course of their (fertile) lives.

Men of all stations in life have to deal with sexual rejection more often than do women, and as such they develop a strong shell that protects their egos and allows them to hunt another day, instead of curling into the fetal position and waiting for death, or the next episode of “The New Normal”. Women have never developed this purposeful shell, this strength of self-possession, and their inability to handle unambiguous rejection with dignity testifies to their underlying emotional and ego weakness. Men who get nervous at the thought of approaching women would do well to keep this in mind: you are far better equipped than your prey to surmount a temporary setback. Your masculine detachment is a gift. Take pride in it. The qualities that every societal siren blares that you should be ashamed of are those very qualities that will serve you so well.





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  1. With regard to particular (feminist) women, is it wrong that I enjoy rejecting her almost more than I enjoy having sex with her? Don’t misunderstand, I really enjoy the latter, but there’s nothing like the satisfied feeling of watching a woman experience a little of the so-called equality for which she so viciously strives.

    Now if only I could see her get kicked in the balls…

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    • Hello! ATTENTION:

      Can i please request a few good (keyword GOOD, intelligent, nice, honest) White males to weigh in on a topic I just made on my website. Please. I kinda need to hear from the horses mouth on this issue since i am in a very heated debate with a bunch of in denial delusional women on another website. its regarding online dating, Black women, and responses.

      Thanks in advance!!

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    • watching someone else expereince rejection satisfies you? your ego is drastically smaller than the person who mishandles rejection. finally, someone to meet you at the bottom.

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    • watching someone experience rejection satisfies you?? your ego is drastically smaller than the person who mishandles rejection, feminist or not. finally, someone to meet you at the bottom. that is really sad.

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  2. “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.”

    A few years ago I read Ray Millands’ autobiography and he wrote that in preparing for “Lost Weekend” he pretended to be a homeless alcoholic.

    A woman whom he had rejected saw him in public and got a big vicious grin on her face. I guess she thought she was getting revenge on him. I wonder what she thought when he got an Academy award for his role?

    Living well really is the best revenge.

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    • They never, ever forget. They’ll spend the rest of their lives either trying to get you back, trying to pretend-reject you, trying to destroy you, or laughing if they see you suffer.

      Men, on the other hand, feel pain, perhaps a few brief flashes of hatred, some depression, then move on. I actually saw a girl who had broken my heart in my early 20s wandering along a popular lakeside path this part summer and she looked awful – akin to a shambling mental patient – dressed in bizarre clothes unfit for someone her age (30): bright green corduroys, a men’s fishing hat, a tiny girl’s backpack and giant white old-people walking shoes. She didn’t see me, but the only reaction I could have upon seeing her was one of pity and a brief spring in my step when I realized how much better off I was now.

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      • “They never, ever forget. They’ll spend the rest of their lives either trying to get you back, trying to pretend-reject you, trying to destroy you, or laughing if they see you suffer. ”

        My father told me when he was young he was very popular with women, and many wanted to marry him. He told me after he was married (and had lost all his hair) he saw one of those women in a fast food place. In public, she pointed at his head and started laughing. When I asked him how long ago he had been involved with her, he said 25 years.

        She waited 25 years to make fun of him.

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    • on September 18, 2012 at 3:57 pm HolySwordFarewell

      I agree with the prior topic that girls cant handle horniness, but I have yet to find any girl I booted ever come back in a positive way. That being said, I burned all those bridges VERY strongly.

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  3. It is rude to turn down a woman, and thus I never do – but then I never turn up for the date! This drives them crazy, but I hope it teaches them a valuable lesson, which is that, you must wait for the man to risk rejection by approaching you. Asking the guy out suggests that the woman has no idea how she should play the game of love. I cringe at being approached so directly.

    It is humiliating for the woman for two reasons: first ; she is rejected and women are just not used to that, and second she would not have suffered the ignominy had she bided her time. If the man had never asked her out no one would think the worse of her.

    I am wondering whether this is a recent phenomena where women have – in usual apex fashion, now that they are strong and empowered – assumed in the spirit of equality that asking a man out works should be as normal as a man asking a woman. It isn’t, and never will be. A woman who cannot catch a man without a direct proposal is a failure as a woman; no slef respecting man should ever accept (unless it is for instant pump and dump).

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    • This is ridiculous.

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    • For very direct sexual stuff, yes, but I’m sure that world would be a better place if women actually used their empowerment and emancipation to signal attraction to men they like, instead of just sitting there mentally paralyzed and hoping that he will be alpha enough to go through her bitch shields.

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    • Are you talking about a woman straight up asking you out to a certain place at a certain time? Or are you talking about a woman showing interest in wanting to date you? One is her taking your power…the other is her showing interest and helping you. There’s no need to go ballistic if she’s showing interest.

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  4. This goes even further than just straight-up rejection. When you dump a girl directly, she’s very likely to react this way as well. Girls are usually the ones doing the dumping, they’re not very used to a guy getting tired of their shit and breaking up with them.

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  5. I was put in an awkward situation last summer when the HR assistant (yes, the fucking HR assistant!) came on to me. I mean she literally pounced on me. I had to force her off. I said “are you serious??”. She was crushed. lol But c’mon I’m not going to risk my job over a HB6 with man hands *squirm*. At least she gave me a ride home though.

    On a side note my friends think I’m crazy any time I turn down an easy lay.

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    • Isn’t that shit insane? The middle aged HR generalist who helped hire me at my last company became the most sexually inappropriate coug-tastic prowlerina I’ve ever seen the second she got divorced. You’d think HR chicks of all people would know better. The inmates are running the asylum, even in corporate America.

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      • Sexy Time at work is a minefield and should be avoided. It’s borderline marginally okay if you see clear marriage or LTR potential and proceed accordingly, but truly bad if you’re thinking fling or pump & dump. It’s way too easy to get into something that jams up your career prospects or gets your workplace into legal trouble, particularly if you are in a supervisory or other senior position with real or perceived power over the person you want to hook up with. I think my father put it pretty simply when he said “you don’t shit where you eat.” It’s true; and you probably shouldn’t pump&dump there either.

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      • Plus you never know when the chick will go crazy and accuse you of sexual harrassment to the higher ups. Even though it was her doing all the harrasing.

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      • Video and pics aren’t just fun, sluts love them, and also cover your ass. C’mon guys….

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      • “Don’t dip your pen in company ink.”

        That’s an eighty-year-old idiom. People knew about this shit even back then.

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      • HR chicks are feminist cunts for the most part, shouldn’t surprise you. HR isn’t even a real job, it’s completely fucking useless.

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      • Have you seen the show Archer? Pam….

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      • Yup…

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    • I don’t relate to the bloody-mindedness. You have revenge in your puny souls. Where is that from? A series of rejections in the past that you’re only now getting around to avenging? Is that how the B-plus girls reject you? It’s like punching a baby and giggling about it. You showed her! You represented your sex, yo!

      When the need for rejection comes as a surprise, it’s no wonder you resort to incredulity (“Are you serious??”). When you are used to it, only a bitchboy would see it as an opportunity for sport.

      Even the “No, thanks” example above seems needlessly aggressive and reactive to her unexpected aggression. She was offering herself as a prop in an amused master’s social performance. One should be better prepared to manipulate her attraction than causing a finger-jabbing scene.

      These are teaching moments. Not just for her, but for your whole social circle. If you are familiar enough with these opportunities, you can honor what’s good about them (her courage), separate out what’s bad (her manly directness), and gently ease her down a few pegs with regard to her SMV. But the choice to not be gentle indicates an inability to be gentle, and this inability is what screams a buried bloody-mindedness poised to erupt, based on a resentment I can’t fathom.

      Actually, a defter approach could have incorporated the very lesson above (Women Don’t Handle Rejection Well) into the flow of the dynamic in real time. There are many ways to let a girl know her game is off and she is not the prize she imagines herself to be. You all have to make a better case for why we should pursue abrupt tactics, other than for gratuitous scorn, which I regard as the mark of a pussy.

      Matt

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      • But some of us are just sadistic.

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      • Yeah. And I don’t relate.

        Sadism only seems like strength to people who have been its (unwilling) subject. Which is why I’m inclined to wonder what exactly you are trying to avenge by pulling the wings off butterflies or torturing pussycats like a young Jeffrey Dahmer. The rest of us know that sadism is the immature power fantasy of the powerless: sadists confine themselves to a narrow realm wherein they can exercise the dictatorial discretion denied them in the world at large. The more they are denied, the narrower they set the boundaries, so long as the thrill of absolutism remains practicable.

        At the pinnacle of power men are more disposed to magnanimity than settling scores. Why? Because now their world is much larger than the petty one from which they emerged. Do you really have to go back and rub your stock options in the face of the high-school quarterback who pumps your gas, or are you more likely moved to pity over the new disparities which are obvious for everyone to see? A man might even sympathize with a woman who approaches him like he used to with girls out of his league, when he was a mere comer.

        I don’t blame this site’s readers for having no frame of reference, but they should use their imagination better. Instead they think their lives will be fundamentally the same as it is on the bottom, only with more power to pursue the same cramped desires. The climb to the top necessarily transforms a man. Novices retard themselves by keeping the little man’s frame, unable to fathom the use and abuse of social power from the standpoint of the maestro. They wear their ill-fitting alpha disguise over omega scrawniness and think we won’t notice.

        I suspect what’s really behind this impulse to shame these girls is not so much a woman’s unfamiliarity with rejection — we all know that — but rather a rising player’s lingering social-proof insecurities. It is embarrassing that such a dumpy chick imagines herself to be in his league, and to entertain anything but a swift public rejection would risk rending his finely fabricated, gossamer social cred. If you are made of sterner stuff such things don’t faze you. If your social proof is genuine rather than a construct, you have latitude to deal with impertinence. Otherwise you are bound to jealously guard against perceived attack from every angle. The small-souled, the pusilla anima, reek of paranoia over their miserly resources. Great men stride confidently and generously — a generosity that falls from them like loose change before beggars.

        Matt

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      • I don’t always agree with Matthew but when he’s right he’s right. I put up with enough power-tripping little bitches in my daily life to know exactly where he’s coming from.

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      • Why I’ve never seen the PUA = bitter loser narrative so eloquently stated. Makes sense though as it is most often a disturbed woman writing Feminist sentiment, not an educated man.

        It is obvious that you don’t relate.

        The urban woman’s approach is as likely to trouble me as are her looks. What you think of as courage… ain’t.” Let’s have a drink” is you-go- girl empowerment, not vulnerability. Butterflies? Please. The comparison is an insult to suffering insects.

        Pinch my ass or disrobe and a woman gets my attention….clear Down To Fuck is sincere female defenseless. Even a girl of average beauty doesn’t trigger a sadistic impulse…when she offers herself up on a platter… and may actually tip the scales.

        But when a woman conveys that what she is down for is “allowing” me to flirt with her.. to sexually appreciate a woman’s great career..or her biting humor…
        then the gloves come off.

        We are not punching babies. You are out of touch.

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      • Sadism is indeed the mark of the “bitter loser.” Sadism has nothing to do with pick up. Wherever you get that from, whatever is prompting you to champion that impulse, comes from somewhere else.

        At the same time, sadism is not necessarily antithetical to pick up either.

        Pontificating about pick-up generates semi-retarded declarations of what constitutes the essence of game from every dude who ever scored a digit. In truth — as is plain for any “educated man” to see — these pontificators substitute their pathologies and idiosyncrasies for introspection, observation, and self-examination. I am a sadist who picks up chicks is not proof that sadism is integral to pick up.

        “The gloves come off” is not sadism. Sadism is causing pain for its own sake, or for cheap jollies. Purely gratuitous and extraneous. Causing pain for the sake of picking a girl up is not sadistic. No one said pain is not part of the equation.

        Matt

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      • There are many who would label my sadism “misogyny” and I guess there is at least one who would label it “not sadism”. Neither accurately comprehends the “why”… fixating instead on situational specifics of no consequence…rather than the motive of my actions…which is essential to appropriate categorization.

        The many observes a female target and projects (hatred of women). The one notes my PUA affiliations and concludes that I do it to get laid..

        Both are wrong. I am neither bitter, nor losing, but I am surely a sadist.

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      • “Sadism only seems like strength to people who have been its (unwilling) subject.”

        Have truer words ever been spoken on the subject of bitter, small men readily abusing their new found “power?”

        It’s no different than the the beaten down homeowner or small business owner who, upon receiving a bureaucratic position of his own proceeds to inflict the same headaches on those around him.

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      • This part of the thread is about not fucking women you work with, King. What makes you think this corner of the discussion is driven by vengefulness? And “teaching moments for your whole social circle”? Really? I know you’re a troll but that wasn’t even a good effort. It’s like you’re not trying any more. Have you stopped loving us? Are you trolling somewhere else, cheating around on us Matthew?

        Besides, your mom didn’t think I was vengeful or teachable.

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      • I would ask again the two last questions of Joe Blow’s first paragraph.

        Otherwise I think Joe Blow is a dipshit.

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      • I would state again the last sentence of your last paragraph, sans “otherwise.”

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      • I would just point out that if the woman isnt fuckable then whats the difference on how you reject her. When you have to shut the lights off and plug your nose and after her sucking cock for an hour and you still cant get hard what is actually the worse rejection?? Saying no thanks saves everyone time and dignity. Be efficient. I think though its more of a statement of people not being able to handle hearing no

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      • You may have a point but it’s too much of a chore to get through your long-winded replies. I feel like I’m sitting on the can after eating a block of cheese reading your posts. Make your fucking point already.

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      • @Turbo — gotta agree with you. And it’s a little much to see “King A (Matthew King)” — a commenter whose entire schtick is based on insulting, demeaning, and belittling commenters, no matter how well – meaning they may be — suddenly praising the virtues of magnanimity and forgiveness. The hypocrisy is too stark, too glaring, to overlook.

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      • Sometimes an attention span is required, especially on precepts where sound-bytes don’t suffice.

        As far as hypocrisy goes, well… we’re all guilty of that… I’m not going to think less of Tristan und Isolde because Wagner was a horn dog.

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      • Problem is, King A’s not a Wagner…or a “Diogenes with his lamp”…..he’s more like Hyperbolus.

        Go look that one up.

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      • I picture him as more a John The Baptist.

        Wagner would be a lot to ask… and nobody listens to the lyrics anyway.

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      • This barnacle — and I remember him only because he is an atheist who ignorantly chose a saint for a screen name — has had a weird hard on for me ever since I started posting. I don’t know what his love-hate attachment is about, and I don’t want to know.

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      • Heh… I have a few of those on my hull as well.

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      • Hey, Turbs. Sup?

        How many times do I have to remind you that I am not addressing you or anyone like you? Run along now and find something you can better digest. You are lactose intolerant and yet moan about “eating … cheese.”

        Maybe it would be cathartic for you to publish your tolerances. Three syllable words? Six word sentences? Four sentence paragraphs? Two paragraph posts? Don’t leave us guessing. I aim to please every whim if I can. Even your retarded ones.

        Try the soy shakes. They’re very close to the real thing. Cheers.

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      • After reading the post and the comments I felt this unease, something was not right. You helped me materialize my thoughts.
        It does sound sadistic, and I have experienced this bold approach a few times last week. One of the girls just come and hung on my neck and started kissing me, the other simply offered her number and suggested to get a coffee the next day. Both of them did not attract me, however I found it quite hard to react to that. The “kissing girl” was easy, some friendly questions about what is she doing and she was off somewhere. However, I gave my number to the girl, even thought I knew I will not meet her. That was weak and dishonest, but as I have not really experienced this before, I was surprised.
        What do you guys think of this? Is there a way to let her down gently? I am not sure that a strict rejection is the best deal out there.

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      • You get them to reject themselves. You have not communicated well enough that you are out of their league. There are ways of doing this without stomping a girl’s guts out (if she doesn’t require a lesson in personality adjustment, as some do).

        I realize most reformed chumps do not have the patience or concern to do it the hard way, and they prefer short-cuts to everything. But your unease with gratuitous viciousness is a good thing. Not only does lashing out scream weakness and fraudulence, nobody is really fooled into thinking you’re a powerful man by such a display. If you have to loudly and haughtily dismiss people, it’s a sign your aura isn’t dominant enough to preemptively intimidate the riff raff away, and you just reinforced that notion in everyone who witnessed your overcompensating cruelty.

        Embarrassment is what sparks the impulse to overkill. OMG this delusional fattie thinks we are peers! I’d better protest too much!

        Matt

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      • If ‘No thanks’ is aggressive then this society is fucking dead. The political correctness schtick has been killing it for a long time, and now it is finally cold stone dead.

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  6. Also, this might actually be the best solution for handling feminism. Keeping in mind that each movement is made up of people, if we consistently demoralize the individual bricks, i.e. the feminist bitches, using these particular tactics, it is possible to make a large enough dent in feminist thought that through eventual constant emotional collapse and torment, amplified by women’s constant networking effects (women love to gossip), we will be able to defeat feminism. It simply requires the learning of game and strong internal state-maintenance, barbaric self-control, oxymoronic as that sounds. As terrifying as this sounds, barbaric assholes get the women. Barbaric assholes will destroy feminism also.

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    • Don’t worry, she will find a hapless beta to pamper her misbehavior.

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    • Better living through (personal) state control. I’m with you on that.

      Although I support the MRA movement, I sincerely think the PUA sphere is the boots on the ground that will take down feminism.

      The MRA’s and their equalist, “social justice for men” platform provides great official cover, like the State Department did back in the cold war days.
      Continuing the analogy, pickup artistry is the covert muscle tearing up the fembot empire bit by bit, like the CIA chipping away at the Soviets.

      When the male pill arrives, it will give the fembots every bit of the hell the commies got in Afghanistan when the FIM-92’s started to make their way into Afghani hands.

      Nevertheless, the main point about all this is that trying to get the fembots to stop with well reasoned arguments, appeals to empathy/humanity, etc. is like trying to get tuberculosis to stop by asking it nicely.

      Barbaric assholes, indeed we are, but better to be a barbarian than a slave.

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      • Seriously though, I might actually learn game just to do this. As sad and funny as this sounds, the more men do this, the better off we are. Being able to totally wipe out a flock of hens’ social confidence in one go may turn you into an unforgivable asshole in front of them, but if you have wings who are in on this nearby to defuse the situation, you can completely and utterly shut their defenses down. It is the equivalent of putting a row of women in the stocks for whoring.
        The next step would be to assert your social dominance over the girls and put them in a specific sort of awe over you. If you are able to hint that she still has a chance, most women will take it. Their hamsters will not let them pass it up. In my country, they say that the drowning man grabs the sharp end of the razor to save himself.
        If we are able to thus force the red pill down their throats, it is possible that sooner or later we will be able to change the dating landscape quite well. It is time to switch from shovels to bulldozers, excavators and graders.

        The only problem with this is if you overdo this, women might actually start committing suicide.

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      • As KingA said above, this kind of vindictiveness won’t accomplish much. You don’t beat feminism out of women, you lead women out of feminism. Big men support and lead, little men belittle others.

        Guide who you can out of the cesspool, don’t stop to fight those still in it.

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      • Yeah, but sometimes when you open a can of whoopazz in the cesspool on a given recalcitrant, others take heed and run out of their own accord.

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      • There’s no vindictiveness in any of this. Self discipline and ironclad personal state control, coupled with a concentrated effort to demoralize one’s adversaries are nothing more than the requisite efforts needed to survive the current situation. In context, to view it as vindictive is as silly as calling one who uses sunscreen as being spiteful toward the sun, or saying that someone who buys car insurance is doing so out of malice toward their fellow motorist.

        The idea is to socially and psychologically tax the incidence of aberrant behavior, perhaps in tandem with rewarding good behavior. As it stands, our adversaries have already been employing this tactic for years, albeit with objectives diametrically opposed to our own. The difference between our efforts and theirs boils down to three key points:

        1. Centralized funding and direction vs. grassroots efforts: Any cursory look at the success of feminism over the years reveals some very heavy-handed assistance by powerful forces in both government and media. The manosphere, on the other hand, is an entirely grassroots effort, that is growing organically.
        This point is the biggest disadvantage we face, and a losing battle that we have only recently begun to turn around, thanks to both the power of alternative media and the continuing delegitimization of traditional media.

        2. Incentive/penalty structure toward men: The driving force behind the adversary’s message (as focused towards men) is one of threatened personal penalty for non-compliance – “do as we say and you might get a date”. Manboobed omegas cower in fear and obeisance to this idea, with garden variety betas following the paradigm at a lower, but still significant level. This idea is seen as the paper tiger it is by the game aware though. Once the red pill is taken, unless somebody figures out a magical off-switch for hypergamy, there is no turning back. Chicks dig jerks, and PUA’s actually win those rewards that perennially LJBF’ed male feminists constantly dream about. What’s more, the red pill affords men with a profound sense of self-respect and self-worth, rather than the state of eternal repentance for the sin of being masculine offered by the opposition. In other words, we recruit with real carrots and the adversary recruits with a limp, paper stick.

        3. Incentive/penalty structure toward women: The sad reality is that as it does to men, the adversary is busy selling lies, only this time, it is using a paper carrot rather than a paper stick. The third wave’s “you can (and should) have it all” carrot (which is just an extension of the second wave’s hollow promise to the realm of family and relationships) is just as huge a lie as ever. That doesn’t keep it from disappearing, kept afloat on an endless sea of furiously spinning rationalization hamsters kept well fed by an incessant stream of media propaganda. All we do is point out the yawning gap between manufactured perception and cold reality (i.e., “we consistently demoralize the individual bricks” as Mega Connect said) which isn’t really a stick per se, but probably stings just as bad.

        Getting back to the original premise, this is just simply the best and most effective way to operate in the given social environment. Nothing personal, just business.

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      • “Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?” — A. Lincoln

        I have an easier time gathering allies than fending off every vindictive enmity, which more often than not, is an expression of a personal problem that has little to do with me. Particularly since, you know, I have the truth about her nature on my side. Sometimes harshness crushes a hater. Sometimes it just reinforces her hatred. All things equal, I’d rather turn her into a frustrated groupie than a bitter stalker with a mind for comeuppance.

        That said, I like the analogy to “boots on the ground.” We are already prosecuting an undeclared war in rag-tag guerrilla fashion. PUAs are Red Dawn Wolverines in the early stages of the sexual apocalypse. Highly effective in their disparate microcosms, but lacking the unity of purpose to effect a total revolution.

        Without an organized reply, natural leaders like Heartiste et. al. will be relegated to playing Lord Humungus (or Aunty Entity?) in a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Max world. Because they don’t think the end-times can be prevented.

        Matt

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      • Don’t worry so much about women commiting suicide – like the Divine Femitheist, they only fake it as a means of attracting the male attention of our inner white knights, which they then twist and abuse in a variety of ways.

        Women by and larger lack agency – they don’t do stuff or take responsibility like men do. They like to pretend that they can, though.

        I do concede, however, that if we can even out male/female rates of legitimate suicide, it will be a big plus for men.

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      • I’ve thought of this as well, but it will never work. There is a limitless supply of omega males that will sleep with women of any caliber, no matter how morbidly obese, man-jawed, feminist, and narcissistic they are. Thanks to the desperation of the average frustrated chump, women simply will never have any incentive to change. The war is lost, I fear.

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      • Well thought out and well said

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      • im with all of you, one of us be the leader to change to world, we will do whatever we can to stop this (feminism, dating landscape). We must put the world back into its original shape.

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  7. One time at a formal in college, a girl asked me to dance in a rather bold manner. At the time, I was very socially inept and completely hated the slight social risk you take when you dance. My response was to basically just stare at her wide-eyed while backing slowly away.
    Five minutes later, a few of her older friends came over and bitched me out.

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  8. I make the rejections terse but polite, giving her the opportunity to save face. If she so chooses.

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  9. “Men of all stations in life have to deal with sexual rejection more often than do women …”

    Yes, men who are begging for sex have to deal with rejection. Luckily, most men are looking for love and they don’t have to deal with rejection any more often than women do. I’ve been rejected many times and, at the end, I never mind. I’m not disappointed nor angry, just happy to know the truth so I can move on. Everyone has a right to say no. Still, I think you have to be as polite as possible. Saying “No, thanks.” is not particularly polite. It’s better to say that you have other plans, that you’re going somewhere, waiting for your girlfriend or that you don’t have time.
    People who enjoy to reject others in an impolite way are just pathetic and whenever you proudly say “No, thanks.” to a fat, ugly chick some other beautiful girl might be watching and she will not respect you for that. I mean, you’re not being a sexy asshole by treating ugly girls badly. It’s so repulsive!
    Really, you should be more considerate with their feelings. If they like you, take this as a compliment and then say you can’t go out with her because you’re going out with your girlfriend. Most girls will understand …

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    • Says the woman ,who at-least …at one time of her life, sat around with some of her girl friends, cackling over some poor dupe,that got shot down by one of them ! May we all keep our hypocrisy’s at a a minimum!

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  10. on September 18, 2012 at 11:24 am The moral godless

    And I quote: “You’re a man, and when I want to have sex, you’re supposed to have sex with me. That’s how it works.”

    This fountain of wisdumb came from a women’s studies major.

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  11. You’re so right. This is why negging works so well – If you keep your jabs tasteful, they’ll keep coming back and will actually do all the work for you.

    On this subject, it reminds me of the first time a girl asked me to go home with her. I was dancing with this chick at a club for a couple songs before last call. I had a girlfriend at the time, so it was just innocent dancing. But I guess this girl took it the wrong way, and asked me if I wanted to go back with her. I jokingly asked if she had an XBox I could play, and she walked away for a minute. Then she came back and asked again, saying she’d get a cab. I told her no. I could see the steam coming out of her ears. I went outside with my friend for a smoke, and she came out a hailed a cab. She held the door open for me to get inside. I told her again, no, I didn’t want to. This was the last straw, and she began screaming at me, I’m pretty sure calling me a loser and a faggot. She then got in the cab and drove away.

    Imagine if the tables were turned and I, a man, kept hounding this chick to come back to me? All hell would break loose. If the chick was especially nutty I could be considered a “stalker” or a “rapist”. But it’s perfect fine if a chick does it. Siiiiiiigh……

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    • Stop being nice! You’ve got burn them crispy at the first reject or they will keep coming back. I say something like – “No! I don’t fuck fat chicks EVER.”

      This works even better if they are not fat, but if they ARE fat, at least they will start thinking about dieting and working out.

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  12. Yeah, it’s always the so-so women who go after men directly, unless the man is an apex alpha.

    This may help explain why some uggos or otherwise weird women get married. They go after a good-looking but mousy beta who couldn’t seduce his way out of a paper bag.

    I also think women take rejection harder than men for the same reason men can love more than one woman at a time, but women can’t do vice versa. Male love of variety makes rejection much easier for us than for them. “Meh, there are tons of hot chicks around, NBD.” versus, “He didn’t want to fuck me! He’s a FAGGOT LUZER!!!”

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    • Women can absolutely love more than one man at a time

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      • Well, they can certainly screw around with more than one man at a time… but can they ever truly love even one?

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      • Yes, we can love multiple men, and we are good at hiding it. You don’t hear about it because it’s so taboo.

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      • Like I said… screw around.

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      • “Yes, we can love multiple men, and we are good at hiding it. You don’t hear about it because it’s so taboo.”

        Mostly we don’t hear about it becuase it isn’t happening. She may “love” the lifestyle her beta hubby provides, and how great he is as a dad, but when she’s not sexing him becuase her pussy is too sore from banging her boss, and she’s constantly deisrrpsecting and haraguing him at home, it doesn’t feel like love to him.

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      • I shall start to view them as nothing more than sex. Useless, to the planet. No life, stinking users(for betas). No worthy scientific discovery they made, no musical compositions they made. Just there for reproduction, cleaning house. You tell me. ________________________________

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      • I’m not referring to a woman who uses one man for money while having sex with another. I’m talking about women taking multiple boyfriends, respecting and loving them as individuals, and sharing herself with them. Believe me, it happens a lot. I don’t know why men cling to the idea that women are incapable of truly loving multiple men.

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      • Like I said… screw around.

        Give that poor little hamster a rest now.

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      • Hey. We ain’t talking about tingles. From what I’ve seen women have difficulty loving one man… let alone multiple.

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      • nope. sorry, you guys are wrong about this.

        women can definitely love more than one man at a time. there is video proof of this all over the interwebs.

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      • Yeah, well some women have bigger… eh, hearts… than others.

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  13. Hot babes never approach randomly, except when the man has a stratospheric SMV.
    I got a slightly related story. I was invited to a dinner by a friend. There was his sister and another guy. A very pretty waitress came to take orders, and I pulled a classic hired gun routine:

    Me : “If I was your boyfriend and you were madly in love with me, what would you want me to order?”

    (The others started to laugh, the sister’s eyes lit up, the waitress was slightly blushing)

    Waitress: “haha. The chef’s menu is very successful this evening. I would recommend it”

    Me: “Chef’s menu it is then. Thank you”

    (the waitress left, a few feet away…)

    Me: “Excuse me!… What’s your name again?”

    W: “I’m Mary” (name changed)

    Me: “Make it fast, Mary” (Writing it is weird, but with the teasing smile and the tone, I don’t think it came out wrong)

    (She came back smiling anyway, with the food)

    Me: “Thank you very much. If I like it, I may have to ask you for your phone number. If I don’t like it, you will never see me again”.

    I asked for her number afterwards and we fucked. What matters here is that before the dinner, my friend’s sister didn’t even look at me. But after this preselection gig, she was all over me, kino-ing during our post-dinner walk and shit. In a way she approached me because I DHVed, we never talked until she asked me something after the waitress left. Too bad her brother was cockblocking us, but hey, unless she rapes me (and she might) I wouldn’t fuck my buddy’s sister anyway.

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    • Nice one. Gotta try this out.

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    • Me : “If I was your boyfriend and you were madly in love with me, what would you want me to order?”

      Thank you, consider this line stolen.

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    • “Me: “Thank you very much. If I like it, I may have to ask you for your phone number. If I don’t like it, you will never see me again”.”

      I can’t believe this line works, and I call bullshit. If a guy ever said something like that to me, I would roll my eyes and consider him to be trying way too hard to come off as alpha.

      Pretty women know that they aren’t lucky when a strange man expresses wanting to have sex with them. It’s not a compliment and it happens all the time. If you had offered her marriage or an LTR, on the other hand, then that would make sense.

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  14. Relevant story about how fucked up women’s need for validation is, at 15:30 in this Tyler video:

    I’ve seen this a bunch of times ’cause these days my flirting/escalating is on auto-pilot with pretty much whatever girl is in front of me, but I actually have really specific tastes in women so I end up getting the girl attracted, but then turning her down because she’s not my type. I’ve seen them do everything from break down crying to lashing out violently to getting hammered and causing a scene trying to get us thrown out, to lying to random guys to try to get them to beat me up, etc. lol

    Hell, even her friends or the mother hens get into it sometimes, like I’m not as into their friend as I SHOULD be since she likes me so what’s my problem, why don’t I want to fuck her? Or she likes me why won’t I date her? lol it’s all super retarded from a logical perspective.

    Anyway, that whole Tyler video is about validation in general, the difference between internal/external validation, giving women too much and not enough validation, etc. It’s good stuff if you’re intermediate/advanced and trying to get off the emotional ups & downs rollercoaster of “tonight I got laid! I’m king of the world!! …the next night I didn’t get laid, I’m so worthless!! :(” external validation (which is useful at the start, it gets you to go out and sarge, but a few years in it’s healthy to transition).

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    • on September 18, 2012 at 1:51 pm RappaccinisDaughter

      Oh, so you’re that guy! I don’t “cold approach,” but if someone strikes up a conversation with me and acts interested, I may well ask for his phone number. Most of the time that’s been just fine, but on a couple of occasions, it’s turned out that he wasn’t really interested–just kind of flirting to pass the time. Or for practice, or out of habit, the way you do.

      The very first time it happened, it did kind of shock me. I actually felt my face going Droopy from Guadalupe. And then I thought…what if our situations were reversed? How would I want him to act? So I just squared my shoulders, said, “My bad–have a nice day,” and moved on. Yes, it did hurt my feelings a little, but nothing an extra half-mile on the treadmill couldn’t fix. *shrug*

      So how do you handle it when women flip out on you like that?

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      • I don’t know how Ya rolls but I convey to everyone around that I gave her an STD and she has every right to be mad. At least my mom loves me.

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      • “So how do you handle it when women flip out on you like that?”

        Field experience and massive massive micro-calibration. A lot of it has to do with a concept called “pacing her reality”. Mystery was a huge fan of fucking with people with this. You basically match her energy level and her mood, and then lower or increase it depending on your goal.

        Imagine a car speeding out of control, and you’re the car that drives up in front of it pacing it, then slowly starts putting on the brakes to slow it down to a normal speed without an accident.

        An example of increasing would be like say you have a friend who’s clearly bummed about breaking up with a girl…you pace him and your whole mood and body language and tone of voice changes and lowers to match his as you guys vibe about how it sucks and he misses her…but then you consciously start to speed your car up and lead him toward something positive and start cracking a few jokes and getting him to smile a bit and then start talking about how fun the night out at the bar you guys are going to have will be and get more and more excited until you’ve got him psyched up and ready to party.

        So in this case where she’s crazy/psychotic, you get her attention with loud crazy/psychotic “HEY. NO, HEY. SHUT UP FOR A SECOND. LISTEN TO ME. Listen. Look, I know we got off on the wrong foot and I know you’re not normally this rude. We’ve all been drinking a lot tonight, and things got out of hand but we’re cool.” etc. etc. and verbally slow things down and get her out of psycho mode.

        From there you can actually pump her state back up like the increasing example I gave above, and then you can actually lead it back to attraction and fuck her lol The emotional roller-coaster is a turn-on for her because you’ve given her a range of emotions which is what she craves (most guys are boring and just give her a flat-line of emotional boredom). You can lead it into Qualifying (the “at first I thought you were a bitch but now…” stuff I mention elsewhere in this article’s comment section) etc. and it’s super powerful.

        But it’s not for newbies. It’s like taming an angry dog…the Dog Whisperer can do it, but he’s pro. Most guys are gonna’ get bit. If you’re new, especially if there’s White Knights around, just remove yourself from the situation calm and cool. There are other bars and other women, you don’t need to stay around that energy and spend the night watching over your shoulder for her scowls or her sending guys at you to defend her honor.

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      • on September 19, 2012 at 5:20 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Thanks for the thorough reply. I wonder if any of that would be applicable to a situation in which a guy freaks out at a rejection?

        (Which, although relatively rare, DOES happen. Although it’s true that the vast majority of men take rejection in stride, no matter how polite and gentle I am, every so often the man in question will flip his shit. It can be quite unnerving.)

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      • “I wonder if any of that would be applicable to a situation in which a guy freaks out at a rejection?”

        I don’t think it would. Guys who are bad with women are pretty quick to demonize a girl the instant you shoot them down. Basically any guy that takes the rejection in a stride where you could still be chill with them after probably isn’t the type of guy who’s flipping his lid over it to begin with.

        Wish I had some advice for ya, if I was a chick I would lie my ass off and say I was engaged and we’re waiting on the rings or some shit. Though then you have to worry the whole night that he’ll see you flirting with some other guy and flip his lid THEN or cockblock you. These types of guys are pretty lame all around lol

        And then guys getting into game wonder why girls are forced to have bitch shields up 24/7, shit…a hot girl can’t even go to the grocery store without getting hit on by lame guys.

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      • “any guy that takes the rejection in a stride”

        Just to clarify because the girl in the story isn’t taking the rejection in stride, the scolding/dominating stuff works really well from a man to a woman because it’s hitting on primal shit. It’s like her authority figure dad disciplining her whereas guys tend to see a woman disciplining them as embarrassing which just furthers the anger.

        Actually, I bet you could pace and slow down an angry guy…you’d have to hit him right away with it before he gets himself too worked up, and it’d have to be something super calm but direct like “Hey, look, there’s no reason to be rude to me. You seem like a nice enough guy even though you’re not my type, and I’m not trying to be a bitch and embarrass you in front of your buddies or anything, I’ve just found that for me, I either feel a spark with a guy right away or there’s nothing so I’m just being honest with you so you don’t waste your night buying me drinks. You can go back and tell your buddies I was married or a lesbian or something, it’s fine lol :)”

        Off the top of my head at least…ya, it’s a monologue, but that’s what the pacing reality tends to be. You match them (“Hey, look, there’s no reason to be rude to me”), align with them by showing you understand their emotions (acknowledging he might be embarrassed and shit), then start to slow it down (explaining that you, personally, look for the instant spark (this is also to avoid him being able to use the “well you didn’t even give me a chance” thing I’m sure they say all the time)), and do some more aligning with their emotions (letting him know you’re actually saving him from wasting his night, because that pisses guys off like crazy even if you told them at the start you weren’t going to go home with them lol), and then slow it down more and end it with some humor (telling him to tell them you’re a lesbian and smile to show “this really isn’t a serious situation to get worked up over”).

        Psyche-wise, the strongest frame ALWAYS wins. Guy, girl, young, old, authority position, subordinate position, doesn’t matter. The strongest frame wins out. So this could theoretically work, try it out and let us know. The problem is, most of the time a guy’s frame of “spazzing out at a girl rejecting me” is a lot stronger than a girl’s frame of “calming a psycho guy down” because the angry guy has more reference experience of being rejected (lol) than the girl has of giving a fuck about calming a creepy loser hitting on her down (since it’s easier to just avoid the situation or leave).

        To go back to me disciplining a girl over her manners, my frame of scolding a girl, because I’m a PUA and I do that a TON, is WAY stronger than her frame of “getting away with being a bitch” because no one has EVER called her on being a bitch so she doesn’t need a strong frame. She doesn’t know what to do because no one has ever calmly and authoritatively said “HEY. Fucking calm down, you’re being a dickhead.” AND calmly stuck to that frame despite her shouting “you have a small dick” at him so eventually she gives up and falls into the frame.

        bla bla bla I’m in a typey mood this week lol

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    • Yup. Cunt teasing can be so much fun!

      Just ran into a leggy but plain faced Asian girl whose dress kept blowing up because of the high winds that came in. We talked for 15 minutes in front of the restaurant… she wasn’t happy that I was just killing time.

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  15. on September 18, 2012 at 12:07 pm TuckerMaxRhymesWithGoldmanSax

    This is so true. I’m a decent looking dude, and have had this happen a few times. It’s usually a little later in the evening after they’ve had a few cosmos on their GNO. Girls have flat out tried to make out with me, grind on me, and say we should get out of here. I’ve turned almost all of them down (various reasons: Looks/ Seeing someone else/ They were way too drunk/ etc.)
    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not looking for you guys to feel bad for me here, but it is a horrible experience. They freak out! They call you gay, they make fun of you, one time I was slapped. They create a total scene. I can’t imagine how long you’d be in jail if the roles were reversed.

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    • You : I’m married.
      Her : But you don’t wear a ring.
      You : Yeah, I lost it scuba diving off the coast of Belize. The new one’s been ordered.

      Her : Why don’t you come home with me ?
      You : I just had penile implant surgery and if I get an erection I could bust a stitch.

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  16. While back in college, a I had a group of dudes walk up to me and asked me to dance with their friend because it was her birthday and she thought I was cute. I thought they were playing a prank so I told them to show me the girl. They brought the girl and, since I was waiting for another girl to show up at the time, I told her “happy birthday but I can’t dance right now”. She immediately turned away and bursted into tears. Her friends shook their heads and walked away. And I had one hell of a DHV to tell my girl.

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  17. But if you later change your mind what do you do?
    Is it all lost once you say “no”?
    Because I’m good looking, girls hit on me very often.

    So I kinda rejected this girl nonverbally.
    At the church I was visiting, I caught this brunette, 7 looking at me and I looked at her making the same expressionless face Prince Harry ( that’s my default expression now) and I could notice she was making those puppy eyes and she was even pressing her lips a little, but then I looked away first and never looked back.

    Now I wonder if I go back to that church and talk to her she’ll still be receptive.

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    • Good looking guy + she looked at you with those eyes = Great potential.

      You go GRLL….. no… wait… what?

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    • It’s been my experience that, once a first favor has been refused, a second one is never asked.

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      • Your mileage, of course, may vary.

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      • Nope. I could never make a girl interested in me again after initially rejecting her.

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      • They have a little switch in their heads that, once turned to off, neither love of heaven nor fear of hell will allow them to flip it back on.

        Which is only to be expected, of course, given their binary brain patterns and inability to comprehend true accountability, fairness, forgiveness, etc., etc., etc.

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      • NAWALT in 3… 2… 1…

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      • Fuck you Greg. Fuck Martellus. And fuck NAWALT

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      • Fuck ’em all, save nine.

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      • There’s a fat slut who hit on me a few times even though I blew her off. So no, it doesn’t have to be once.

        Again, if you’re an apex alpha, you can blow off a 7 or 8 a few times and still get another chance.

        Another thing: be aware that sometimes women will think you’re blowing them off when you’re just preoccupied with something else.

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      • on September 19, 2012 at 3:39 am EgregiousHeaver

        You’re leaving a number of well though out and sympathetic posts GE. Are you feeling all right?

        Since you are married, how can you deal with resetting this irreversible turn-off ?

        I need to know, because I need to have a large number of half-breed brats. I can’t wait!!

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      • Generally it’s pretty hard because they take rejection hardcore. It’s why a girl who’s into a guy and has the window of opportunity open will slam it shut forever if he doesn’t take it.

        If you want to try turning these situations around, it CAN be done but it’s tough. The main concept to keep in mind is qualifying her. If you’re not into her, then suddenly ARE into her, there’s no reason for you to be into her so she interprets it to mean either 1) you’re desperate, 2) you’re indecisive and wishy-washy, or 3) you’ll fuck a girl you’re not even into.

        All 3 of those reasons lead to her shutting down on you. So how do we get around that? Well if the issue is that she knows you have no good reason to fuck her, then the solution is to give her a reason you want to fuck her.

        That’s where you get into Qualifying. Don’t show any interest, like normal, but then find something, ANYTHING, it can be something stupid and meaningless like her jewelry or her “sassy attitude” or her job she tells you about or her attitude that particular day, etc. and compliment her on it and then start showing interest (turn your body language toward her, ask more questions, basically start investing in her, as if suddenly this thing she did/said/has flipped a light switch in your head and now you’re into her).

        This 180 can be REALLY sudden and it doesn’t come off weird at all to her because duh, she liked you already anyway, she just wants you to like her for more than “because she likes me”, even if it’s a retarded reason.

        The basic Mystery Method style structure is: “You know, at first (I wasn’t sure about you / I hated you / I thought you were a bitch / you seemed so quiet / I thought you were boring / etc.)…I didn’t know (you were this fun / you were this down to earth / you could dress that hot / you were so confident / you were into Hobby / you like Movie / etc.). That’s actually pretty cool…(start asking questions about whatever attribute it was that 180’ed you, and then transition into normal flirting/convo as if none of the rejection stuff ever happened)”

        On your girl in particular, you’re fine, that’s totally recoverable lol When you finally talk to her you can tell her “I saw you looking at me a few times and thought you were a crazy chick…but you’re actually pretty fun, I’m glad I caught you checking me out. ;)”

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      • Thanks so much man! That gives me confidence.
        Most girls definitely think you want then just for sex if you change your mind about them.

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      • You’re like a pussy Einstein.
        Respect!

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  18. Very well-written post. You need to codify your maxims into a book, with commentary either attached to each maxim, or attached as an appendum. The Tao Te Poon.

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  19. Yeah, plain Jane women don’t handle sexual rejection well. I’ve also noticed that really hot women don’t like being ignored. Most of them have numerous beta male orbiters. If I work with a really attractive female and I don’t join her beta male orbiter collection, first she is friendly or plays the helpless female who needs assistance or just kind of accidentally on purpose brushes up against me a lot. Then if I still don’t pay any attention to her, she’s rude to me or glares at me. I don’t care either. I’ve been the beta male orbiter providing beautiful women with attention too many times in my life and don’t want to bother with it anymore.

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    • LMFAO ! 000% correct, I intentionally put the finest women on ignore and it drives them insane and for that reason. I let them know Im not your orbit fag…you can see the hamster wheel spinning at 9000 rpms live

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  20. Had a woman with horrible taste in clothing, as well as being well over 100lbs above my acceptable limit (I like them thin and small) try to chat me up. Now I try not to be mean to anyone, but this woman chose black spandex and a pink silk top – she looked like a sausage about to burst. And wouldn’t take subtle hints that – “I’m actually waiting for someone – true I just knew it wasn’t her…” When she asked “Wanna drink?” the “No, I have to drive later,” didn’t deter her.

    Finally, I had to basically tell her, “Look, I’m just not interested.” She got livid – which was a real bad color so she had a beet-red face, a bursting pink top, and cankles that rumbled when she walked, so I did the most unforgivable thing a man can do to a woman – without really meaning to… I burst out laughing. No subtle chuckle, so quiet smile, no… A full belly laugh that – started just as the music stopped and everyone turned to look. She slunk away… I really didn’t try to hurt her feelings – heck I remember those early rejections which were like knife-thrusts to the soul from long ago – but I just couldn’t help it…

    The plus was that a girl who was close who was an earlier target of mine, saw it, and saw that I had tried to let her down easily. And she commiserated saying how hard it was for her when guys started asking her out whom she had zero interest in. So from my perspective it turned out well, but I dare say I’m probably still called, “that a**hole” by “The Pink Sausage” as she came to be known to the people that saw it…

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  21. A few years ago, before I discovered this blog and was much more of a beta, I was dating a smoking hot spoiled little rich girl. She was the bane of my existance and eventually it became too much. I broke up with her and she came completely unhinged. It was amazing. Who was I to break up with her she screamed. She spent a few minutes screaming at me, going back and forth between anger, despair, and weird crazy laughter.

    I had never been more socially uncomfortable in all my life.

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  22. Worth a second look…

    I met a girl on Adultfriendfinder a few years back. she lived near me and showed me her photo, was ok. So I invited her over. Wow…it was not a recent photo and she was fat. She was at first playing coy.

    But when I discovered she was fat and not shaved/waxed, I got the opposite of a hard on.

    After that, I was like “oh, i think you’re right, we’re moving too fast”

    That only made her hornier.

    She was shattered when I basically pushed her off me and suggested she leave.

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  23. theislander829
    This goes even further than just straight-up rejection. When you dump a girl directly, she’s very likely to react this way as well. Girls are usually the ones doing the dumping, they’re not very used to a guy getting tired of their shit and breaking up with them.
    ————————————————————

    Yeah, and the hotter the girl, the worse they react. You gotta remember, some girls went from “daddy’s little princess”, to the girl every guy wants to fuck… so all they know is a life of entitlement and unaccountability.

    They have never been broken in.

    I once dumped a girl just to show her that she could be dumped.

    Best thing that ever happened to her.

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  24. Heartiste, your a good writer, given the current popularity of dark-romance novels (i.e. 50 shades of grey, twilight), have you ever considered taking your own shot at writing an erotic romance novel for women, and seeing just how dark and twisted the female sexual psyche is, just for the fun of it?

    Examples: Jack the Ripper, a misunderstood man who just loved too much.
    or

    SS Nazi Officer, blonde haired Ubermensch, whose steel cold and ruthless determination would give way to heartfelt whispers of love and tenderness.
    or

    Jaws, a tale of unrequited interspecies romance.

    My guess is the second one might actually prove popular if done right.

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  25. “Men who get nervous at the thought of approaching women would do well to keep this in mind: you are far better equipped than your prey to surmount a temporary setback. Your masculine detachment is a gift. Take pride in it.”

    You know I never thought of it like that. That is a well written statement.

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  26. The fury is incredible. To even suggest to slow things down is taken as a dagger to the heart. If not fury, then extreme depression and weeping. But usually I see fury, especially if it is an unavoidably public rejection.

    Now that I’m married, even my wife can take it extremely personally if I delay sex.

    “Honey, I just ran a full triathlon on 2 hours sleep and then spent the whole rest of the day with our family at an amusement park in 90 degrees heat. I’m tired. Tomorrow night we’ll get our groove on.”
    “What?!? What?!? You don’t love me anymore? Too much time in the bicycle seat? That’s it, you rode too long on the bike and now it doesn’t work anymore?”

    All’s forgiven the next day, but the stewing on the other side of the bed as I slip into the sweet embrace of restful slumber used to worry me a little, until I learned more game to add to some natural alpha behaviors.

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  27. When I was younger I was approached by a 4 at best and she was really letting me know about how much she wanted to be with me. Back then I was your typical beta who would have taken almost any female attention…but I did have enough dignity to give her the LJBF line. I never knew I could cause so much anger and sadness in a gal.

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  28. Back when I was a Driver for UPS, I had a woman on my route approach me. I politely, but firmly said no, telling her I was seeing someone (I was. Plus, she wasn’t a redhead, so there wasn’t much interest on my part).I would have perfered for her to yell and freak out on me. Instead, she just got a hurt look in her eyes, said ok, and started stalking me.

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  29. Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber:

    “What are the chances of a girl like you and a guy like me?”

    – “One in a hundred thousand.”

    “…….
    ……..
    ………So you are saying theres a chance….yesssssss”

    You will never see women be starry eyed orbiters.

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  30. Back when I was a driver for UPS, I had a woman on my route approach me. I politely said no, telling her that I was seeing someone (I was. She was good looking, but she wasn’t a redhead, so there wasn’t much interest on my part). Her reaction was a hurt look in her eyes, a quiet ok, and to start stalking me.

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  31. You can be nice turning down a portly lass…but I would want to paraphrase Alec Baldwin.

    “This is the new me…this is the alpha male me. And to you, I’m gold, and you don’t get me. Why? Because giving myself to you is just throwing it away. I’m for lookers.

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  32. Yup, their number one response tends to be to call you “gay” for not wanting to go out with them, but god forbid if you were to call her out for not accepting your overtures….

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    • Yep. Back in college, I had a chick come on to me. She was good enough looking, but her timing was terrible. I was coming down with the flu and my mom had just called that morning to tell me my dog had died. I just wasn’t in the mood. I didn’t really reject her, I thought I was taking a rain check. She thought I was rejecting her. A month later I found out she was telling everyone I was gay.

      Funny, she got me laid by a real hottie. I was having drinks with some friends, which included said hottie, when the chick came up to the table and said “don’t waste your time with him, he’s gay.” and left.

      Hottie: “You said no to her, didn’t you?”

      Me: “Would you want to sleep with a crazy bitch like that?”

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  33. As evidenced by several commenters stories already, I’d like to highlight that a woman’s reaction to a man’s rejection is almost always to insult your masculinity or status in some way. When you spurn a female, its common to get called gay, faggot, loser, ugly, or creepy. Many times the people witnessing these insults won’t have witnessed her coming onto you just seconds or minutes previously, so if they are not privy to the workings of females, they may take these comments at face value and assume the worst about you. It can be maddening.

    The stickiest of these situations that has happened to me when a girl I had previously banged a few times but spurned for committment busted out the “you have a small penis” line in front of my social circle. This has happened to many guys and no matter how untrue it is if you show emotion or qualify yourself, you lose. A genuine smirk and agree and amplify “yup tiniest penis ever, easy for my girlfriends to deep throat” diffuses this situation quite nicely. But it can still piss you off when a girl has said “you have the perfect D” during sex and then chooses to blow up your spot to somehow make herself feel better.

    If a man convinced himself that every woman who rejected him was a lesbian or otherwise undesirable in some way, he’d never work to improve himself. When American women convince themselves that all men who would reject them are gay losers who are intimidated by committment to a “real woman”, then they are destined to remain fat and disagreeable.

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    • Any girl I recently banged is caught on pictures…It’s 2012. Why are you playing nice?

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    • Just say “Really? Small? Because I keep some video of us doing it here on my phone. Let’s let all these people judge for themselves. You care if they see your jiggly, pimply butt as part of the review?”

      / big smIle

      Even more points if you actually have video on the phone.

      But yeah, turning down a woman for sex or a relationship can be a tricky thing. I got two stalkers that way when I was a teenager and had no clue that being nice about it can cause false hope.

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  34. So true. I rejected a girl freshman year and two years later when
    I was studying in Europe a friend wrote to say she was still telling
    anyone who’d listen I was the “meanest guy on campus.” Made
    for some interesting interactions when I returned senior year.

    I was 6’4″, 200# and going to a school where the average SAT
    is now 740. If I told you how good looking I was perceived you
    wouldn’t believe me. One of the saddest days of my life was the
    first day of college. I remember trudging off to dinner and thinking
    “I’ve been walking around here all day and haven’t seen one genuinely
    good looking girl, how the fuck can that be?”

    This place was paradise for all the intellectual, frumpy 4s and 5s
    who hated high school. As a senior those of us who acted as guides
    for prospective applicants just laughed and shook our heads when
    the occaisonal hb9 high school senior would show up as part of
    the tour. “Oh yeah, she’s gonna want to come to here.”

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  35. There is also a suspicion factor at play, especially if the man is not desperate (or just happens to know better). If a woman approaches a man and it seems to good/easy to be true, it could be a scam. Experienced men have a finely-tuned Spidey sense when it comes to the disingenuous approach of a woman. (Again, they also lack approach experience.)

    I’ve actually been asked out by women stone cold sober and in the harsh light of day. It’s because I work at a college and deal with students. Many develop crushes, but I prefer to keep things professional. Stupid, I know.

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    • Does your college have a rule against it? If not, then yes you are stupid.

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      • If they’re in my class then conflict of interest. Beyond that I don’t want to give any ammunition to anyone else I work with. I’ve done the work-lay in the past at other jobs and prefer not to anymore. Also I’m married. (Like how I threw that in?)

        Were I single, then anything post-graduation would be fair game.

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      • Why the hell did you get married if you work in Academia. Pro athletes are dumb. What’s your excuse? Tantalus ain’t go nothing on you!

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      • Ha, I know. I’ve had my fun though. Got married because I wanted to. No regrets, having a great time.

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      • I tutored some in college…girls came to my dorm room..doesn’t get any easier than that logistically…I got so laid and it was the middle of the week. Dream come true. I’m not through with my fun.

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    • Ya, the trick to spotting and avoiding hookers, especially in a place like Vegas where they’re pro, is to watch for her giving you ioi’s that you did nothing to earn. Normal guys have no idea about the “I do this, so it causes her to do that” give and take of legit flirting so they don’t pick up on that, but if you have game you’ll be able to process “she’s laughing at everything I say, but I’m not saying anything that’s funny or that should spike her buying temperature like that.” and spot the fake iois.

      If you want practice at it, hang around strip clubs a bunch and spot the strippers doing it since they have most of the same game as hookers but it’s less risky to experiment with.

      Also helps you avoid wasting time at the bar on the really hot girl who’s just using you for social proof or to make someone else jealous. If she’s tossing you fake iois, bail. Or try to turn it around with a neg lol

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      • Also helps you avoid wasting time at the bar on the really hot girl who’s just using you for social proof or to make someone else jealous. If she’s tossing you fake iois, bail. Or try to turn it around with a neg lol

        I had an encounter with a hot girl at the bar last weekend (she looks a lot like Diane Kruger, actually). I was friends with her from before, she had been seeing a friend of mine who went back to his own country nearly two years ago, but I hadn’t seen her in months. She at one point brushed her hand and fingers on mine in such a way that nobody would have seen it, while I was minding my own business by the bar. Then not long afterwards she started the jealousy game: being super affectionate with some dude that I hadn’t seen before. I felt a flash of jealousy, but didn’t react, and instead I asked if that was her bf, because they kissed a couple times in front of me (it was superficial, not French kissing). A bit later, I saw her being super affectionate to a couple of other guys, and at one point she “accidentally” hit my hand with her butt crack. Finally she got pissy and left with her girlfriends (I actually saw her tell the guy she made out with earlier to “no, just go!”). She unfriended me from her facebook a couple days later.

        I still haven’t reacted. I’ve been around too many hot chicks to look at jealousy game with more than contempt, and although she lives in town, I don’t see her much anyway. But I’d be curious to see how you deal with jealousy plays from chicks.

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      • “But I’d be curious to see how you deal with jealousy plays from chicks.”

        Mostly just what you’re doing lol you can just escalate on her the next time you see her. Do the qualification thing, bust her on de-friending you (in a way like you think it’s hilariously silly), etc.

        In person, if a girl is running a jealousy thing on me to try to suck me in I’ll just act completely oblivious to it and go flirt with other girls where she can see. Doesn’t even matter if those girls are hot or not, the main thing is to just be engaged with some other girls and completely ignoring what she’s doing. Generally she’ll get frustrated and ditch her guy and come grab you to get your attention and see what the deal with these new girls is. Then you just instantly turn from your new girls and grab your girl by the waist and get in her space and quietly to her go “oh thank god you’re here, save me from these girls, pretend you’re my girlfriend…” and go in for the makeout. If she’s into you and feeling the pangs of jealousy, she’ll go for it to mark her territory. Then just go have sex with her at the end of the night lol

        If you have to talk about the guy for some reason, say only good things, like they look like the perfect couple etc. etc. She’s just using him to make you jealous so that’s her plan backfiring on her, like how you might talk to the fatty to get to the hot friend but then the hot friend leaves you with the fatty who thinks you like her lol “FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU….”

        Worst thing you can do is get sucked into her drama and go back and forth for her affections with the guy. You avoided that so you’re set next time you see her.

        Remember: She wouldn’t get mad and defriend you if you didn’t make some kind of emotional impact on her…any impact, good or bad, is better than no impact.

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      • Mostly just what you’re doing lol you can just escalate on her the next time you see her. Do the qualification thing, bust her on de-friending you (in a way like you think it’s hilariously silly), etc.

        Sounds good. It’s interesting when a girl who you thought was your “friend” goes and twists everything up with a bunch of drama like that. It almost seems like the female way of trying to get out of a guy’s friend zone.

        She did say “Yes!” when I had asked if he was her bf, but given the rest of the night, I’m assuming it was all bs rather than bf.

        Winning.

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      • “It almost seems like the female way of trying to get out of a guy’s friend zone.”

        lol that’s not a bad way of putting it. Look at it this way: you paid attention to her instead of her fading into the background with other orbiters. She’ll even do crazy shit despite LIKING you, the point is just to get a reaction out of you, good, bad, doesn’t matter, anything’s better than nothing.

        With some girls, where you know they like you but they’re just trying to get a reaction out of you, you can cut all the shit and get right in their face and calmly stare them down and flat out say “Look, if you want to fuck me, you can just tell me. You don’t have to throw a fucking temper tantrum to get my attention, I’ve been thinking about fucking you since you walked through that door tonight.”

        In the right situation, that’s a really powerful move.

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  36. Hot off the presses, a 29 year-old wall victim stabs man in the stomach for refusing to have sex with her:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205067/Woman-stabbed-man-refused-sex-threatened-rape-went-hospital-treatment.html#ixzz26qiBnees

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    • Won’t see THAT story on Jezebel lol

      Seriously though, keep your wits sharp guys. Girls have been given free reign by society to embrace their crazy emotions and they don’t think about the consequences of their actions because they don’t have to. Can’t even count the number of married/taken girls who COMPLETELY don’t give a fuck if their man finds out I’m fucking their girl. I’ve had to scold/bitch out/ditch girls who are sloppy with being discreet because they don’t get that their actions could result in their BF could showing up with a gun at my door one day…he probably won’t shoot her so she doesn’t care, but he’ll shoot me and I’m not her so why would she care? Plus then she gets to fuck him when he gets home from being a bad boy so it’s win/win for her 😛

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  37. on September 18, 2012 at 5:05 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    I did this inadvertently in college when I blew off a girl during orientation because I had a g/f and then got with her (much hotter) friend a few months later while I still had a girlfriend.

    It took me many years to make the connection as to why Orientation Girl was so nasty to me, but decades later I bumped into her and she STILL was a bitch, so these things do hit them hard. Oh well. Her friend had to buy custom bras, let’s put it that way…

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  38. Beautiful.

    “The qualities that every societal siren blares that you should be ashamed of are those very qualities that will serve you so well.”

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  39. A small defense of the “fairer sex.” If her approach is more about sex than anything else, since men are more open (generally) to frivolous sex the rejection of her more significant than that of a man being rejected by a female. Also, since men approach more the woman she makes a bolder statement by approaching than a man approaching. She puts more of her pride on the line.

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  40. Sorry for the typos. I think you can figure out what I meant.

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  41. One night outside a bar at about closing time… I was drank and just standing around chatting and joking with some random dudes before I walked home. Uggo fatty patty and her uggo fatty friends standing around outside when fatty patty decided to skip the whole getting rejected by me routine and proceed straight to throwing a tantrum, yelling at me, and calling me gay. I suppose ignoring them was enough for them to assume (correctly) that they were already pre-rejected. The ego rationalization hamster is a funny creature. Girls standing around outside the bar at closing time and I don’t talk to them? Must be because Im gay… certainly not because they were way too nasty.

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  42. Women are dumb. I had a girl try to run game on me the other day (she was a solid 6, and I had a few 8s showing interest in the bar). And I called he out on it. She flipped shit but played it cool and she left.

    Women need to get there god damned emotions in check

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  43. on September 18, 2012 at 6:56 pm Johnycomelately

    At a weddIng my 23 year old alpha friend inadvertently picked up a desperate harridan in her 30s who came from interstate and wanted a guilt free romp before returning home.

    He was intending to hit the clubs when this woman jumped into the car, it literally took two men to drag her out. Sad state of affairs.

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  44. Off-topic. Sorry. But you ought to know about something.

    In case fellow readers don’t know, especially those who don’t live in the DC area, Carolyn Hax is the Washington Post’s female supremacist SWPL advice columnist.

    In today’s issue, one of her letter writers — whose gender is not known to the reader but is probably known to Carolyn — describes his or her middle-aged father, dating a woman much younger than he is, who while they are an item becomes pregnant and gives birth. But the child may not be his, the letter-writer says, because this much younger girlfriend was “sleeping around at the time”.

    Letter-writer mentions that his or her dad is paying for “raising this child as his own and is paying for everything” and asks Carolyn if it’s fair that her father take a paternity test.

    Here, I will leave it for you to go visit the Post and see her predictable reaction. It is spring loaded — http://wapo.st/S0DbEu

    It reminded me of something a wise man said, quite recently: I’ll say it again: feminism’s goal is to remove all restrictions on female sexuality and to regulate, legally if necessary, male sexuality.

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    • Toxic advice. If that bitch was in the letter-writer’s place, no way would she accept losing part of her inheritance to evil/hot step-mom’s kid, she’d cheek-swab the kid herself.

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  45. Which is why they lash out with shame tactics.

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  46. On a side note, a LOT of naturals will fuck aggressive ugly girls, that’s a part of why girls end up that way. I’ve had a few girls who were just awful try to get me to come home with them at last call, like they literally do the same thing half the guys there do, approach everything drunk at last call and try to get them horny and convince them to come over.

    One hideous acne-covered fatty literally said “wtf, you’d rather go home ALONE than FUCK?? are you fucking gay??” while grinding her huge ass on me while I was leaning against a wall with my hands in my pockets giving the “save me” eyes to my buddy……who was all over her friend and down for going home with them lol

    Naturals have the most…”flexible” standards. Usually it’s because they like sex, and really the fact that they’ll flirt/fuck anything is part of why they develop good skills with women in general and an abundance mentality that helps them get the really hot chicks. So often they have this weird sexual history of everything from 2s to 10s. You want to make fun of them for taking home the 2, but the 10 is showing up at his door in lingerie afterward so you can’t.

    Anyway, I think game-conscious men tend to be more “Thrill of the Hunt” guys and most of us are big into self-development and setting goals and standards for our lives in all categories, so we’re a lot more likely to go “uhh no thanks.” because we want better for ourselves.

    The problem for girls is that it’s not clear which guys are Thrill of the Hunt and which are Love of Sex right off the bat.

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  47. Right as I was heading out the door late for the most important job interview of my life she decides suddenly it’s sexy time. I sped downtown fast as I could and she blew up my phone with hair raising curses, shrieks and insults all day long until I got home. Called my current boss and told him every bad thing I had ever confided to her. I was totally freaked and thought I had flubbed the interview. I got my dream job that day but I lost her.

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  48. girls who approach guys the feminine way make their presence through IOIs (hair curling, preening, subtle eye contact, subtle smile, coy glance, dancing with open body language towards you) or indirect game (non-intrusive questions, “elderly chat” Rooshism, or nonsense garble which starts a friendly/flirty conversation). The less sophisticated female (or average feminist) will escalate her attempt to get noticed with increasing acts of directness or volume, and assume masculine behaviors to progress up the approach scale in her peacock attempt to register on the male sexual radar.

    But even in the indirect situations when a woman fails to get a man’s attention, she lashes out with frustration, entitlement, and anger towards the man for not picking up her subtleties. Men don’t respond either due to lack of interest, or naivete to the subtlety of the indirect feminine approach (ironically, this is more of the case). In either case, bitches just don’t know… the callousness to rejection is acquired over time and brutal endurance, not isolated incidents of inconvenience.

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    • Also, I believe the female equivalent to a very creepy omegaish approach is staring.

      When a woman simply stares at you, it is simply awkward and unnerving. It makes me think that she has mental issues and doesn’t understand social conventions. Just pretend you don’t notice, hope she gets the hint and leaves you alone.

      The only good thing about it is when you are with peers that aren’t really friends or anything and they get pissy when they realize some chick finds you that attractive, when that never happens to them.

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    • Your first paragraph is what we PUAs call “pAImAI”. Here’s like a 20 page article from 2006 breaking it down lol:

      http://ipua.blogspot.ca/2006/07/interesting-article-paimai-by.html#c115184892567703422

      Naturals are EXTREMELY sensitive to pAImAI from a girl, but normal guys are completely oblivious to it and talk themselves out of it when they DO see it.

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  49. Equality sucks, doesn’t it?

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  50. When i was younger there was this woman who came to the building I worked in for counseling (there were a lot of counselors and psychologists with offices in the building). She had birth defects and drove around on one of those electric carts. She looked a lot like Timmy from South Park. I was polite to the poor woman; once I saw her at a mall and engaged her in small talk for a few minutes. Some time after that she caught me in the lobby of my building and strongly hinted that we should go to a movie sometime. I put her off as politely as possible but I swear for a few seconds I felt my spirit leave my body and fly around the room. I’ve often thought of that woman and thought maybe I should have gone out with her. It would have been a great act of kindness. And I probably would have at least gotten a blowjob out of it. TIMM-MAY!!!!

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  51. Nicely said, Sir! It took me a while to figure this out, as a man raised by a single woman. It should have been the first thing I learned.

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    • I like that meme- perfect response to that old line I wouldnt date you if you were the last man on earth.

      I had been flirting with and talking on the phone to this one hot stripper, but she was so negative and boring I decided to drop it. The next time I saw her at the club she rushes over to me…”you never called[again]!” (last we talked she was supposed to call me back). I started to explain and just stopped and said “you knowI really don’t think its going to work out.” She flips out a little and in an indignant tone says “I date MILLIONAIRES”, and I chuckle and with a grin, “Yeah hows that working out for ya?”. She had a nuclear melt down after that and I finally just left because she wouldn’t shut the fuck up. Meanwhile In South America I’ve known hotter women who just wouldnt take no for an answer. This one japanese girl in paraguay must have asked me out 7-8 times (no exaggeration). You have to wonder what kind of crappy training we’re giving our women here as to how to behave in general and how to treat men specifically.

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  52. on September 19, 2012 at 12:24 am 3rd Millenium Men

    Spot on. Furthermore, rejecting a girl at the early stages of meeting her or at a relationship increases her attraction and desire for you ten fold. She’ll never take you for granted ever again. http://3rdmilleniummen.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/field-report-amazonian-part-2/

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  53. To the silly person who could not believe how fat chicks from the HR Department would try to corner hot guys in their own organization as fuck-toy-slaves Knowing what they know about the many dangers and perils that so often follow from such liasons.
    Maybe you are new to this place of truth-telling. This place of telling truths that teach guys to learn to see in the dark.
    We all need a break sometimes so I offer you one. Here it is. You are excused from knowing that chicks who are clued into HR protocols and procedures are hyper-aware (in the limited aware parts of their brain architecture) that all the rules are stacked in her favor. Such a nightmarish sexual creature is reminded every day at work she has more brute-force coercive sexual power than even a pedophil priest in a boarding school for starving under-aged young boys off the street in 19th century Dublin. In other words, no matter what you do or not do she will still hold the ultinate whip hand. For example: HR Sexual Predator, “Fuck me now or I will tell your boss that you raped me.” Note that she is not actually smiling at this point; but only drooling
    You have 3 choices if you serious about survival.
    1. Have all the chain, cable-ties, bleach, and plastic bags you will probably need to do it right.
    2. Have apex alpha game such that when one of your bitches finally goes completely insane they only butcher their competiom and not you
    3. Collect photos of them taking a shit and audios of them demanding you be their back-door man/ If handled correctly, all that is discoverable in a well-crafted counter-siut. MY advice is be loaded up for all of these defensive measures well before fatty HR girl finds out the truth about you and Lo Lee Ta.

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    • on September 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm gunslingergregi

      there is something to be said for having some do or die chicks in your arsenal had one call me last night when i was with this other chick and scared that crap out of her with the cross examination lolzzzz

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  54. On a recent trip to San Diego, 1 night I stop in a bar to watch the football game. I have time I decide to go outside and have a smoke. There was a woman who apparently was the queen of the bar sitting on the bench and block me from sitting down. She said,” what’s the password?”

    ” Suck my dick,” I replied.

    He said something in coherent words and was clearly upset.

    ” Oh that’s not the password? Then is it “move the fuck out of the way?”

    She got upset and went back into the bar. I sat down and had my smoke.

    When I got back in the bar, the bartender server up another beer for me. I told her I didn’t order another 1. He said it was on the house Because I was the first man to tell her to get the fuck out of my way.

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  55. Pretty extreme example of women not handling rejection well, here:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205067/Woman-stabbed-man-refused-sex-threatened-rape-went-hospital-treatment.html
    Woman stabbed man after he refused to have sex with her then threatened to cry rape if he went to hospital for treatment

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  56. I don’t know about you guys, but I don’t even feel it anymore. I haven’t for years, I thought it was oneitis but really it’s just putting up with petty bullshit for years.
    years have gone by and many a woman has committed dire acts to reconcile years of their life with my alpha fuck trunk, my reality shaping genius, and the years of secret retreats that make life worth living. After a while I just don’t care, and they don’t care, and noone cares.

    It’s been a year since I was even moved by a girl. Girls can’t handle it man.
    One killed herself.
    The other ostracized all of my idiot friends by lying about me to everyone that would listen.
    The other called the f b fucking i on me
    And worst of all one almost gave me a fucking std (priorities)

    That’s the best inner game training of all gentlemen. One of my very few natural alpha traits, reject every this first, make everyone wait for you and on you, you are king.

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  57. “Regret Is Not Rape: a continuing series. bit.ly/OaywoW This time, for a change of pace, justice prevailed and the good guys won. 21 minutes ago”

    OMG. What a sad story … She had eight vodkas and then she had sex with three guys.

    [heartiste: in your world, do women bear no responsibility for the amount of alcohol they consume?]

    And now she’s going to spend two years in prison …

    [serving as an excellent example for the others.]

    One of those three “victims” is going to US to work with children …

    [why the scare quotes? do you think men who have been detained by the police on false charges of rape aren’t victims? if you really believe that, are you aware of just what a monumental CUNT that makes you?]

    All four of them are repulsive and I’m glad that she goes to prison for her FRAs.

    [no. the woman is repulsive. the men are innocent victims whose only mistake was picking the wrong random slut to consensually screw.]

    But these three men are sick as well … Group sex with a drunk woman?!

    [Does it shake you to your core that women aren’t angels?]

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  58. @heartiste shock of all shocks (authoress 3 down) http://nymag.com/shopping/guides/weddings/rings/features/proposals2.htm

    Guy is obviously not a real man but a toolbox.

    The expected outcome of a generation of American men with either

    1. No fathers

    2. Betatized fathers

    American men are lost. Just the way the Lords of Lies want it.

    Because the way to kill your enemy is to have your enemy kill itself first, without a shot being fired.

    When the MEN of a culture LOSE THE ABILITY TO BE FUCKING MEN — breaking that culture, breaking your enemy, becomes that much easier…

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  59. I know this well. In fact, it has happened to me at bars when I just go out to observe people and don’t want to game women. Trying to explain that a man can have such self-control as to not want to sleep with them right then and now makes them go apeshit.

    Its part and parcel with a woman’s great fear that a man will think she’s a slut. Sure, women know that other women may call her a slut, but the idea that a man–a straight man—unironically—may think her too slutty for a relationship drives her insane.

    I am one of the few men I know who have told a woman “you’re too easy” and/or “I don’t like sluts” and/or “I don’t date girls who sleep with black guys” when a girl seeks a relationship. Man, do they hit the motherfucking roof then—how dare their actions be used against them! How dare I, as a man, use future-time-orientation to weed out bad women! How dare I not think with my dick, and instead judge them coldly, like women do! Fag! Racist! Loser! Little Dick! etc…..

    In fact, this can be very likened to a rules girl: if they have some arbitrary cut off date and stick with it, they are thinking with their head rather than their loins. Similarly, when a man rejects a woman like this, its the same thing: she’s not attractive enough to overcome his rational brain. The problem is the little femicunt has been conditioned to believe that men are incapable of logical thought and should be so grateful for her goddess pussy that anything she’s done—literally anything—should be forgiven.

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    • So few men have standards that when a girl runs into a guy with standards she can’t even wrap her head around it.

      Also I use a cold blunt “Sorry, I only fuck hot girls.” on really hot girls lol But that’s to actually fuck them.

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  60. While there is some merit to your observations, I think you should take into consideration the fact that a female who is comfortable with skirting gender roles and taking on the persona of a “loose” woman is more than likely going to have emotional issues.

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  61. Jack.
    There is a place on Gods earth for sluts despite them being more than likely to have emotional issues.
    Excuse me, I just thru up when I typed “emotional issues” But I feel better now

    Chimp females have this cultural norm. When they go into heat they make it a goal to drain the balls of every fuckable male in all the surrounding trees. And in public. That way, the guys all know and that she knows they might be the baby dad. So, for a lot of reasons, guy chimps often look after the semi-bastard children of their semi-faithful fuck-buddies. Chimps are stupid about somethings -like modern firearms, but that is not the main story here, imho.
    But they might be gaining on us in the gene game,

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  62. Women who end up having men reject them lack Female Game.

    Just a men have or do not have Game and get classified as alphas / betas / omegas, so too do women.

    Women, like men, succeed at Game when they let the target come onto them. Not the other way around.

    Letting the target come onto them always means letting more than one target come onto them. Gives them choice, i.e the power to be the rejecter and not the rejectee.

    The funny thing is….I always found women to be instinctively much better at game than men. The proportion of betas /omegas among women was always inversely related ro the corresponding male ratios.

    The tension between these two Games – male and female – was what made the whole dynamic so compelling, captivating, entrancing…and all those other adjectives

    That seems to be changing. I wonder why.

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  63. Hello! ATTENTION: (if you don’t mind heartiste)

    Can i please request a few good (keyword GOOD, intelligent, nice, honest) White males to weigh in on a topic I just made on my website. Please. I kinda need to hear from the horses mouth on this issue since i am in a very heated debate with a bunch of in denial delusional women on another website. its regarding online dating, Black women, and responses.

    Thanks in advance!!

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  64. […] [Women Don’t Handle Rejection Well] […]

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  65. “Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned”

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  66. Ladies,

    make your life easier – never approach a man. How simple is that. Like a white Jewish woman once told me: “if a man wants you, he will come and get you”.

    YEP.

    I do think women’s egos have inflated to an all time high these days b/c so many men don’t have standards. So many women feel that mostly all men will accept their advances (and they are right) and therefore put themselves out there.

    i just don’t think its natural for women to come onto men. I think its natural to subtly flirt and do certain things to get their attention or to let them know you like them (eye contact, smiling, playing with your hair or whatever), but outright approaching a man is just so masculine to me – i don’t care how hot or ugly the woman is. it just doesn’t seem in its natural order for women to approach men. *shrug* And that is why the rejection is so much harder b/c its not natural for a woman to put herself in a position to be rejected.

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    • Neecy:

      Read my views above 🙂

      I, of course, agree with you. I would never go for a woman who came directly onto me. She can certainly entice me via a smoky look, playing with her hair, etc. But directly approach, never. That signals desperation and loss of female power.

      Female power can act like a turbocharger in a man’s loins. It’s the ability to suck him into her. Starting with his desire. Then his penis, body, heart, mind, psyche, soul…..all of it and more. Tantra is all about that – it’s called shakti.

      The crazy thing is – it’s the female who is actually the sexual predator in the lexicon of natural selection. But the “natural” way to do it is to entice the man into approaching her. Not grab him by the balls and rape him.

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  67. how does this post appear in the light of this article? ”Men hit harder by breakups”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1285184/Relationship-break-ups-hit-men-harder-women-researchers-claim.html

    [heartiste: breakups and approach rejections are two different things. women can handle the former a lot better because they have, on average, more options in the sexual market (at least until they get up around 30). women don’t handle the latter well at all because they have little experience getting outright sexually rejected, and they don’t have a backup option that would substitute equally for the men they approached who rejected them.
    or, to put in in simpler terms:
    it’s the difference between rejecting a beta and getting rejected by an alpha.]

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    • Most men are betas who develop soul-consuming one-itis.
      Since most men are beta, most women are in relationship with a man that they can leave the second a better opportunity comes along.

      The study doesn’t contradict red pill teachings.

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    • Is that link about fucking? No. So why share it?

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