Tiger Woods Or George Clooney?

Which man is smarter today? Tiger Woods, who got married? Or George Clooney, single and never without a happy smile on his face?

If Tiger had read my blog and taken my eminently sensible advice he would not be facing the dire prospect of a nine digit cut in pay for doing EXACTLY what his wife, Elin Nordegren, did when she married one of the most desirable bachelors in the world — namely, fulfilling the alpha directive. As alpha females should be free to pursue and coax commitment from the highest quality men, so too should alpha males be free to pursue and bang numerous hot women. It would only be fair.

Beta males at least have an excuse for getting married. They might not find another woman. Alpha males have no excuse.

As Nike might say to Tiger: “Just don’t do it.”





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  1. First

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  2. George Clooney should be the model for every male performer. Jack Nicholson too. Guys of that caliber would never ever ever have trouble with women. If you like one, just date her until you or her get tired of it. At that level of status, the banal customs of prole life are just unnecessary.

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  3. Also note the cheery grin of Derek Jeter.

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  4. Very interesting. While I categorically disagree with your definition of what an alpha male is, it seems clear to me that Tiger didn’t think things through when he decided to bang some poon on the side. He clearly is swimming in uncharted waters and lacking the experience and knowledge of what to do when the beans get spilt. I see this as indications that he couldn’t possibly be a true alpha. Alphas know damage control and people go out of their way to help them control it.
    IMO, His talent at a non team sport has granted him the monetary advantage to hang with a crowd who accepted the Tiger Brand because it’s fashionable and leads to the possibly of fame by association. That doesn’t make him alpha.
    Of course Clooney is the smarter and the more alpha of the two. Think of the number of women who could benefit from coming forward to tell the media the sordid details of their time with him. Hundreds? More? Why don’t they do it? Because, there is always the possibility that he’ll come back for more, that they’ll get another shot.
    The wheels on Tiger’s Escalade had barely stopped spinning before the sluts were coming out of the woodwork to tell their stories. Why? He isn’t worth it. He’s just a pud with a fat wallet. There’s a better chance for them to get on an MTV/VH1 Imaho reality show, than there is of them wanting to get another crack a the Tiger show.

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  5. Another thing to keep in mind, on the “why would Tiger get married?” question… having that “stabilizing influence in your life” wife seems to be part of the culture of professional golf.

    Often golf commentators will be blabbing about the woman’s wife, how she adds balance to his life, Jack Nicklaus talking about how being a family man made him a better golfer, blah blah blah.

    And Tiger, so sensitive to the history and marketing of the situation, probably sees having such a wife as necessary.

    I think this applies to “individual” sports and not team sports, where you have a team support structure and you can be Derek Jeter and bang hot chicks for 15 years and not be married and not be out of line with the culture of your sport.

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  6. Hell, if I must pick one out of the selection, then of course Clooney is the smarter nabob.

    But the marriage records of Rock Hudson, Elton John or Liberace would be more applicable. Those guys was smart.

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  7. Tiger Woods. It’s still nice to have a family of your own. Problems are part of life. It’s how you handle things and comes out a winner over those problems.

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  8. I heard on Elliot this morning that the bitch Tiger was banging has text messages, voicemails, and some other shit that he sent her as proof she’s not making up her claims. If that’s true, what kind of an idiot leaves a trail like that? An erudite playa he is not.

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  9. on December 2, 2009 at 10:48 am Cannon's Canon

    jackhammer a cape buffalo??? obsidian returns!!!

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  10. If you want to look to the sports world for true alpha players, study the boxers of yesteryear. True Playboys.

    Start with Mickey Walker:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007E2CRS?ie=UTF8&tag=thegman-20&link_code=wql&camp=212361&creative=380601

    – MPM

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  11. @Gman

    I recently pulled the trigger on a Brioni suit and several Brioni shirts. Can’t wait to get them back from my tailor. Bespoke in my near future.

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  12. The first question I asked when this happened was, “Why the hell is that man even married?”

    A guy like that has way too much to lose to be dragging around a ball-and-chain.

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  13. FP hit on it – there are persistent rumors that Clooney is gay, and the occasional bargirl he hangs out with are his beards. Not sure I believe it, though.

    Apeax alphas, even paper ones like Tiger, attract large numbers of golddiggers, like moths to a flame. Men in that position need ot have the judgement and expereince to see them for what they are and make decisions accordingly.

    So Clooney and his Vegas cocktail waitresses are the way to go for top alphas (assuming the gay rumors are false). Not just non-marriage, per the post, but the status imbalance (per a previous post this week.) The disparity between their status and his, and the obvious non-permanence of the relationships, keeps things on an even keel.

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  14. So there are no Alphas who want kids? Tiger Woods looked very happy in the pictures of him with his wife and baby.

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  15. The funnest clip I stumbled across in a long time. See how four classy babes vie for one alpha dude.

    For my money, the Greek one does it best.

    And no, that’s not The G Manifesto at 2:28 min. That’s me before I quit smoking.

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  16. Listen to the VM message from Tiger to his mistress.

    Beta confirmed.

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  17. This Frog YouTube vid has been posted twice now.

    For real femme le game, see how Jennifer Hudson, Rosemary Clooney or Jordin Sparks would land a GQ coverboy alpha.

    now that’ll really tell ya something

    srsly!

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  18. Hitman

    @Gman

    “I recently pulled the trigger on a Brioni suit and several Brioni shirts. Can’t wait to get them back from my tailor. Bespoke in my near future.”

    Good work.

    You will feel like a million when you wear them out.

    I have a few Brioni’s.

    If I knew how many fly girls I would swoop in them, I would have surely paid double.

    – MPM

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  19. Strange how easily the term “beta” is slung. To some, it apparently means “anything less than the perfect player who I imagine myself to be.”

    Tiger Woods is strongly desired by desirable young women. That’s enough to qualify as an “alpha male.” Further, he actually does fuck desirable young women, who are clearly satisfied.

    But he’s terrible at managing his extramarital affairs, so that makes him “beta”?

    If you mean “highly skilled player,” use the term “highly skilled player.” That’s not a synonym for “alpha.”

    Indiscriminate use of the term “beta” risks erasing any distinction between a true beta male (not desired by women) and someone like Tiger Woods, who is clearly in a different class.

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  20. Why can’t women get that men are perfectly fine with fucking a chick on the side and still loving their wives?

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  21. Funny you should mention Clooney. When I was reading with incredulity so many comments claiming Woods as an alpha, I paused to think who I thought actually qualified. Clooney was the first that came to mind. Then Jack Nicholson. Even Mike Myers.

    Then it clicked that this idea of alpha and beta as separate camps doesn’t really work. There’s a hierarchy of men in terms of the sexual interest they attract from women, and it runs from zero interest, through mild interest up to uncontrollable lust. You can tell a man’s raw attractiveness to women by how much they notice him if they’ve never met him before, and he hasn’t said a word. Some guys are invisible to women. Others are eye-magnets. How a man utilizes that initial attractiveness is what finishes out the picture. But there aren’t so much alphas and betas as there are men who are higher or lower in the hierarchy.

    Without the golf skills and everything it brought him, Woods would be invisible to most women. Without the movie fame and all it brought him, Clooney would still be the only guy in the room. Same with Nicholson. That’s why they are such successes in the movie world – it specializes in people who have that attractive power, whether it be physical or that old-fashioned charm (and the best have both).

    If Woods’ wife is taking to him with a golf-club, it’s because she doesn’t respect the guy, and she probably doesn’t respect him because she knows she got a nobody with a lucrative talent, rather than a genuinely desirable man. She’s probably already torturing herself with ideas of the better man she could actually have had, if she hadn’t fallen for all that money and fame crap when she was young and naive.

    The divorce is a certainty. Woods has been too stupid to see it coming and missed this opportunity to minimize the damage it will do to him. Now that the cops have fined him, he has been declared at fault and the wife is off the hook. When he gets skewered in divorce court he’ll be in the same hole as every other deluded husband.

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  22. The future belongs to those who show up.

    Clooney Jr is where?

    Tiger Jr 1, Clooney Jr 0.

    How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?

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  23. maurice

    FP hit on it – there are persistent rumors that Clooney is gay, and the occasional bargirl he hangs out with are his beards. Not sure I believe it, though.

    Gays have passed those rumors about virtually all of the leading Hollywood men, especially those that were very handsome and not of the utterly rugged handsome look.

    As well in Clooney’s case lots of pro marriage (feminist women and men for example) types would also have an incentive to want to believe he’s gay, since it’s apparent he’s never getting married.

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  24. on December 2, 2009 at 4:23 pm Doyourownresearch

    George Clooney by far

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  25. Feministx, you need to deal with death. Children will not give you immortality. Your great-grand children will hardly be related to you. Your genetic legacy will be negligible. You will be forgotten.

    Clooney: happy life.
    Woods: sad life.

    That’s all there is.

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  26. on December 2, 2009 at 4:36 pm Doyourownresearch

    @FemX

    “How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?”

    Oooh please, you’re delusional. You’d be panting like a dog for George’s sperm. You think busting nuts into “ladies” makes you man, get a life. Harlot’s need to wait in line, so take a number. 🙂

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  27. on December 2, 2009 at 5:52 pm Wendy Schwartz

    (The wisest move is ALWAYS to not marry, whether you have kids, don’t have kids, want them….don’t want them…..doesn’t matter. DO NOT MARRY. You are fighting nature when you’re stuck with the same person!!)–I don’t find Tiger even remotely attractive, nor George Clooney (except in From Dusk Til Dawn) but George is obviously smarter here.

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  28. LOOK I HAS OVARIES wrote:
    “How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?”

    You do realize that 99% of men see babies as an annoyance at best, right? Number of men I’ve ever heard of secretly trying to get their girl’s preggos: 0. Number of women secretly trying to get preggos ~= number of women having sex.

    Personally, I think Clooney, like everyone else in Hollyweird, is a pole smoker, but whether or not he is, he has a better life than Tiger Woods.

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  29. The very concept that Tiger Woods might have to pay half his centimillion fortune to his deadly weapon wielding wife if he doesn’t have a prenup, under current feminist changed divorce is beyond obscene.

    No woman deserves hundreds of millions of dollars for merely being a pretty wife and mother. Not remotely close.

    Of course she doesn’t deserve anything remotely like half, much less child support at uncapped very high after tax percentages on top of that. It’s utterly obscene and completely unjustified.

    That never used to remotely be the law. 2nd wave feminism is what made it the default, nearly everywhere now. (Though in theory equitable distribution would make it turn out otherwise, and that’s why it was enacted that way instead of community property, but that’s not the way judges have gone, influenced by other states and feminist culture. )

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  30. Immortality? Abraham Lincoln, one of the greatest men to grace the earth has no descendants.

    Clooney has a secret harem in Saudi Arabia and 200 children.

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  31. Doug1

    The very concept that Tiger Woods might have to pay half his centimillion fortune to his deadly weapon wielding wife if he doesn’t have a prenup, under current feminist changed divorce is beyond obscene.

    It’s a close second to Tiger Woods having a centimillion fortune in the first place – for playing a fucking socially useless game that contributes nothing to the Progress of Mankind.

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  32. on December 2, 2009 at 5:33 pm newly divorced

    The idea of Tiger’s violent golf club wielding wife getting hundreds of millions of dollars is ridiculous and shows some sort of sickness in our society.

    Can you imagine what would happen to a guy who hit his wife with a golf club?

    She deserves 5 years in prison.

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  33. No woman deserves hundreds of millions of dollars for merely being a pretty wife and mother. Not remotely close.

    Given the crowd here, you know that some people will read this as “rich guys’ wives should be forced to get jobs, too.”

    I don’t have a lot of sympathy for guys like Tiger if they don’t get pre-nups, though. Actually, just about none. For two reasons.

    (1) If you lose 50% of zillions of dollars, you still have zillions of dollars. So even if Tiger does lose half… who cares?
    (Same goes for people who bitch about estate taxes when they pass on estates worth billions.)

    (2) Tiger was already famous and rich when he got married. If ANY super-rich man doesn’t conduct ALL his business affairs as though everyone else were a shark, then he’s a fool.
    It’s practically immoral, as Canada Bill Jones once said, to let a sucker keep his money.

    My sympathies lie with middle-class guys who get railroaded, and who are tangibly affected by ridiculous divorce laws. Rich guys are morons if they don’t realize that everyone, especially women, is after their cash.

    In fact, I would go so far as to say that any rich man would be a complete idiot to marry ANY woman who didn’t either (a) know him before he had money, or (b) didn’t learn that he had money until she had already fallen for him.

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  34. newly divorced

    Can you imagine what would happen to a guy who hit his wife with a golf club?

    That’s why a guy’s
    gotta use a knife

    Like OJ

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  35. on December 2, 2009 at 5:54 pm Phenomenal One

    “(2) Tiger was already famous and rich when he got married. If ANY super-rich man doesn’t conduct ALL his business affairs as though everyone else were a shark, then he’s a fool.

    In fact, I would go so far as to say that any rich man would be a complete idiot to marry ANY woman who didn’t either (a) know him before he had money, or (b) didn’t learn that he had money until she had already fallen for him.”

    I have a cousin who’s the boss of a record label.
    Between one ex wife, his current wife (who was a past ex wife) and a past lover, he has at least 5 kids.

    I don’t feel sorry for em at all

    The more sh!t you have, the more flies will come.

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  36. on December 2, 2009 at 5:58 pm Willard Libby

    feministx.blogspot.com

    The future belongs to those who show up.

    Clooney Jr is where?

    Tiger Jr 1, Clooney Jr 0.

    How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?

    The idiot makes a good point. But Clooney can wait. Anthony Quinn and Tony Randall had kids when they were close to a billion years old.

    maurice

    FP hit on it – there are persistent rumors that Clooney is gay

    This rumor seems unfounded to me. Who’s next Warren Beatty? Sean Connery?

    Is it bitter women, envious men or hopeful fags who invented and spread this rumor?

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  37. on December 2, 2009 at 5:58 pm Willard Libby

    feministx.blogspot.com

    The future belongs to those who show up.

    Clooney Jr is where?

    Tiger Jr 1, Clooney Jr 0.

    How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?

    The idiot makes a good point. But Clooney can wait. Anthony Quinn and Tony Randall had kids when they were close to a billion years old.

    maurice

    FP hit on it – there are persistent rumors that Clooney is gay

    This rumor seems unfounded to me. Who’s next Warren Beatty? Sean Connery?

    Is it bitter women, envious men or hopeful fags who invented and spread this rumor?

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  38. Epoxy–

    My sympathies lie with middle-class guys who get railroaded, and who are tangibly affected by ridiculous divorce laws. Rich guys are morons if they don’t realize that everyone, especially women, is after their cash.

    My sympathies are with both.

    Nearly all men who were raised rich will realize that Epoxy, but most who aren’t won’t esp. they won’t with respect to women who profess love (and may actually feel it), until they’re older. Such is the propaganda of our society. yeah most become rich guys can sniff out a golddigger who’s gina doesn’t genuinely tingle for him, but is beautiful. However such is our entertainment media propaganda that most became rich guys before seriously burned believed that if she is genuinely gina tingle attracted/in love at time of engagement and marriage, that that solves all problems going forward.

    It’s not all about whether the man will be ok financially post marriage, though that matters too. It’s about the effects this financial power immediately upon marrying automatically gives American women that matters too. No matter what their behavior. Especially if he earns much more than her, at whatever level of earnings.

    Why should any man give up so much by marrying? It just tells me that marriage is to be avoided now, by any sentient man. Especailly a much higher earning and mega especially a rich man. His prenup can’t much effect child support at obscene levels for a cheating spouse of a super high earning man.

    Actually I think the most screwed over are guys whose wives cheat and they still have to pay out American divorce theft, or leave for no compelling reason and they do. but I also think that super alphas, and indeed alphas too deserve to be able to have occasional discrete, emotionally limited affairs. As they’ve always been able to do (or a whole lot more) through history in all cultures until feminism. Glory be unto it. Not.

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  39. Epoxy–

    So even if Tiger does lose half… who cares?

    Me. And you should too. For reasons above.

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  40. feministx.blogspot.com

    The future belongs to those who show up.

    Clooney Jr is where?

    Tiger Jr 1, Clooney Jr 0.

    How can a man call himself an alpha while rendering himself reproductively impotent?

    Clooney and Tiger will have exactly the same concern for the “future” after they are dead – ZERO. Let the future take care of itself – it will have to, since nothing awaits us on the other side of death but oblivion.

    If Clooney cared about reproducing, he could donate to a sperm bank. No doubt the line of women wanting the Clooney-filled turkey basting syringe would be out the door.

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  41. If Woods’ wife is taking to him with a golf-club, it’s because she doesn’t respect the guy, and she probably doesn’t respect him because she knows she got a nobody with a lucrative talent, rather than a genuinely desirable man. She’s probably already torturing herself with ideas of the better man she could actually have had, if she hadn’t fallen for all that money and fame crap when she was young and naive.

    The divorce is a certainty. Woods has been too stupid to see it coming and missed this opportunity to minimize the damage it will do to him. Now that the cops have fined him, he has been declared at fault and the wife is off the hook. When he gets skewered in divorce court he’ll be in the same hole as every other deluded husband.

    This is spot on. He has no natural alpha-ness, but he has tremendous wealth and fame. That allows him access to women, but not their long-term respect. Elin probably loathes herself for marrying him and is likely thinking of ways to get what he can provide (money) moving forward without being married to him.

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  42. My sympathies are with this dude:

    BUCK SEXTON

    How about when you did all the right things.The wife kid the house and car payments.A job to die for. Then out of the blue skies comes the wrath of government.

    Ya that’s right, that bitch I fucked when I was 16 had a kid. she was 20yrs older than me.(I thought she was long gone). She had been on welfare for the 12 yrs sense. The garnishments took half my income. They placed a debt of 100k on me. They also Issued arrest warrants and suspended my drivers license. (it got funner each day).

    Long story short They took all I had in one way or another(including the wife and daughter). I still owe close to 100k I have paid 75k so far…

    Maybe Ill get the American dream in the next life.

    I cant wait till a collapse….Those fuckers already killed me. Ill take my chances in the woods.

    http://visualizefredom.blogspot.com/

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  43. Damn.

    “Buck Sexton”

    was my old stage name in The Industry.

    neway, i’m done defending defenselss fluffy bunnies from meanies.

    no more whiteknighting for me

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  44. Novaseeker–

    This is spot on. He has no natural alpha-ness, but he has tremendous wealth and fame. That allows him access to women, but not their long-term respect. Elin probably loathes herself for marrying him and is likely thinking of ways to get what he can provide (money) moving forward without being married to him.

    I don’t disagree with this analysis in our currently extremely biased against men culture. I don’t disagree, at all, with this as a guideline for men to improve their marriage game.

    HOWEVER, what a RIDICULOUS set of requirements for a man to hold onto a pretty but now aging wife without her being able to take half of his prodigious wealth, and because of that a good lot of his status as well — cause she could so do him in.

    She simply shouldn’t be able to. Regardless of whether he didn’t play LTR game as he should have, on top of being one of the richest men in the world at a young age, a top athlete, and suffused with status and fame beyond that for reasons similar to why Obama is (however unjustified, he has that).

    It’s obscene. It never used to be anywhere in the world ever, not long ago. It shouldn’t be now. It should be overthrown.

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  45. Number of men I’ve ever heard of secretly trying to get their girl’s preggos: 0. Number of women secretly trying to get preggos ~= number of women having sex.

    *BUZZER*

    “Twenty-six percent of these girls reported that their partners were actively trying to get them pregnant by manipulating condom use, sabotaging birth control use and making explicit statements about wanting them to become pregnant.”
    http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-09/uoc–tgr092007.php

    12 million women in the USA buy birth control pills each month that’s a fuck of a lot of money if they’re all secretly trying to get pregnant.

    I’m not saying women don’t try to trap men by getting pregnant, sure they do. But it’s nowhere near the # of sexually active women, and it’s laughable to think men don’t ever do it either.

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  46. Lisa–

    I’m not saying women don’t try to trap men by getting pregnant, sure they do. But it’s nowhere near the # of sexually active women, and it’s laughable to think men don’t ever do it either.

    Men don’t do it much at all Lisa. Those that do are almost entirely men who earn no system traceable money to speak of or who can’t be found, i.e. on the fringes. Even most of them don’t; it ‘s rare but not unheard of there.

    I’d guess the ratio today is something like 1000 to 1, girls acting to trap men through intention deceptive pregnancy, versus men doing that to girls.

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  47. congrats doug1, your passion gives me gina tingles.

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  48. I love George Clooney.

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  49. I have been dating this girl for a about 2 months. Mostly she just comes over and we have sex. She thinks of me as her bf kind of now. Last night I went out with a friend and some girls. Now she is being cold in her texts. Her last text was “I’m mad at you”. What is the right alpha response to this?

    Thanks for your help.

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  50. on December 2, 2009 at 8:33 pm Willard Libby

    Mandy! XD

    I love George Clooney.

    Oh, so now you admit your lust for older men!

    The Cuban Marie Curie hungers for the embrace of an older gentleman.

    Interesting. Very traditional.

    I would have figured the Cuban airhead was more partial to the Jonas Bros or those werewolf/vampire guys.

    But no. Her heart belongs to daddy. How cute.

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  51. Her last text was “I’m mad at you”. What is the right alpha response to this?

    As short and infuriating as possible, indicating you don’t care if she’s mad or not. Possible answers in roughly increasing degree of assholiness.

    “Okay.”

    “And?”

    “So?”

    “Great!”

    “I win”

    “Yay me!”

    “Whoosh!”

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  52. George Clooney married an older woman (of status) before he turned thirty. He’s not some brilliant alpha; he learned from his mistakes.

    Novaseeker writes:

    This is spot on. He has no natural alpha-ness, but he has tremendous wealth and fame. That allows him access to women, but not their long-term respect. Elin probably loathes herself for marrying him and is likely thinking of ways to get what he can provide (money) moving forward without being married to him.

    If she loathes herself for marrying him, then why did she violently lash out after learning of his infidelities? Shouldn’t she be celebrating since the squeaky clean Tiger turns out to be an adulterer? Now she’s out of the marriage and ready for a big, big payout.

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  53. If she loathes herself for marrying him, then why did she violently lash out after learning of his infidelities?

    That is actually exactly how many women react. Why? Because when a woman loses respect for her man, she easily becomes angry at him for “fooling her” or for “wasting her life” and what have you — women become *very* angry when that happens and can become violent. They direct that self-loathing they have at their own choice towards the husband. It’s very typical, and common, and indicative of a more or less complete loss of respect. If he stays with her, you can rest assured, his balls will be living in her purse.

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  54. @WillardLibby:

    “The Cuban Marie Curie hungers for the embrace of an older gentleman.

    Interesting. Very traditional.”

    Old news.

    “But no. Her heart belongs to daddy. How cute.”

    older men =/= incest

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  55. George Clooney, perfect representation of the differences between male and female alphas.

    To women he is a sex god incarnate.

    To alphas he is a pathetic excuse for a man. A man like Clooney isn’t the sort who can lead other men (aside from lower betas).

    To lower betas – he probably makes their ginas tingle.

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  56. Im getting tired of PUA gurus and the like using examples like Tiger Woods and Clooney and any other smuck with a disproportionate amount of fame, money, power or influence.

    The issue at hand is this.

    How does a typical man in the world , with a normal job, and normal day to day pressures, live his life without ending up becoming a slave to his wife , kids, to his hormones and to his culture.

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  57. That is actually exactly how many women react. Why? Because when a woman loses respect for her man, she easily becomes angry at him for “fooling her” or for “wasting her life” and what have you — women become *very* angry when that happens and can become violent.

    That’s a plausible view — but not at all unusual; I can imagine the proverbial woman on the street offering this sort of answer: A husband who cheats behind her back fools her by definition, wasting her time. But I believe your original claim had to do with Woods’ alleged “alpha-ness.” In order for the argument put forth to hold up, you have to maintain that genuine alphas would not provoke a similar response. (Shortly after the Lewinsky affair, Bill Clinton was sportin’ a mark on his face, and there were reports Hillary had attacked him.) Since Clinton’s an undisputed alpha on this blog, why did that happen? We can speculate — Hillary’s an alpha-female, or whatever — but I think eventually we’ll encounter a clear case of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    They direct that self-loathing they have at their own choice towards the husband. It’s very typical, and common, and indicative of a more or less complete loss of respect. If he stays with her, you can rest assured, his balls will be living in her purse.

    Well, if Tiger’s a bitchboy, then why weren’t his balls already secured in her purse? You’ve probably read more about this situation than I have but the reports I’ve seen claim she’s an unusually private person, one who does not parade her children in front of cameras for publicity, and is only really seen at golf events when she’s cheerleading her husband.

    Prediction is the gold standard in science. So, let’s say they do remain together, and a couple years down the line there’s another blowup because he’s been caught cheating. Does that mean you retroactively revise your opinion?

    This goes to my general frustration with the site’s author and his similarly minded readers: they tend to overextrapolate.

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  58. Wait, Roissy, how do you explain celebrity males that marry porn stars? Are porn stars alpha females? Or are they alpha females to beta males that become famous?

    Curious.

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  59. This goes to my general frustration with the site’s author and his similarly minded readers: they tend to overextrapolate.

    In fact his marriage will be fine, Vince. It’s good that this happened.

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  60. on December 3, 2009 at 4:25 am Horatio Sanchez

    I’m not sure about you guys commenting on Tiger’s lack of natural game and alphaness. People who have met him comment on what a confident and giant douche he is. I don’t know if he takes that too far in the direction of anti-social coldness, to the point where it becomes offputting to women. It seems he did show some pretty beta behaviors in wooing his current wife (boy, that was sure worth it, wasn’t it Tiger?).

    Still though, I wonder. We can safely rule out the idea that Tiger is a herb of any variety. I’d say, on a natural game basis, without the money, he’s at least a higher beta with women. Could be wrong.

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  61. on December 3, 2009 at 9:22 am msexceptiontotherule

    Tiger’s wife may want to consult the “stand by your man” handbook that figured prominently in the response Kobe Bryant’s wife Vanessa made after being burned by the court scandal flames fanned in the media – she probably wouldn’t have stuck around if it weren’t for the huge tabloid possibilities that came with her husband’s infidelity and being accused of rape. When you think about it, the average person (meaning those who are not celebrities and followed around by paparazi like sharks follow cruise boats and chum) may get divorced for repeated extramarital affairs but they at least don’t have to wake up to it on the front page of the newspaper or the top story in tv news – probably even saves them the cost of 8 carats in purple diamonds or for the lower end of the income bracket, a pair of 1ct (each) diamond earrings.

    There has to be something else to report on besides which celebrity marriage is over, who cheated, and Adam Lambert’s stage performance. Like the things the legislators are trying to pass without everyone in the rest of the country noticing before it’s already too late and their crap has been put into operation. Or the investigation into whether or not statistics were altered to make them appear to show global warming as a much more serious problem. Hell, I’d rather see news about the problems facing the polar bear population and an explanation of why Iceland won’t allow anyone to immigrate to their country and become a permanent citizen.

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  62. Mandy! XD

    I love George Clooney.

    As usual, I was right.

    you’ll fuck george clooney’s brains out, but… pick on poor Richard grieco. even though clooney’s much older than grieco and waaaay older than u – he’s like, 6 generatins older ya know. female fuck fantasy is all about how popular/rich/famous a guy is currently.

    i bet – at this moment- you’d pick Tiger over Clooney at present time. why do you grrls do that??

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  63. msexceptiontotherule

    There has to be something else to report on besides which celebrity marriage is over, who cheated, and Adam Lambert’s stage performance. Like the things the legislators are trying to pass without everyone in the rest of the country noticing

    hmmph..your really not from ameriqua, are you – you’re like bikky, from like Bulgaria or Surinam or something

    here, in Amerixico,
    we ONLY fix problems
    after its too late

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  64. @Firepower:

    “you’ll fuck george clooney’s brains out,”
    Pass.

    “but… pick on poor Richard grieco. even though clooney’s much older than grieco and waaaay older than u – he’s like, 6 generatins older ya know.”

    Eh.

    Richard Grieco was never attractive.

    My most favorite old guy is Clint Eastwood. yayayayay.

    ” female fuck fantasy is all about how popular/rich/famous a guy is currently.”

    No fantasies, and I just think he’s funny.

    “i bet – at this moment- you’d pick Tiger over Clooney at present time. ”

    Nope.

    “why do you grrls do that??”

    I’m a grapefruit! Get it straight!

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  65. Mandy! XD

    My most favorite old guy is Clint Eastwood. yayayayay.

    ” female fuck fantasy is all about how popular/rich/famous a guy is currently.”

    No fantasies, and I just think he’s funny.

    hellzya – clint was a riot in Gran Torino

    you’re great

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  66. @Firepower:

    ….

    I was talking about an interview I read of him…

    OMG I’m not going to try anymore.

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  67. c’mon mandy
    quit being such a bitch
    just bc a dude agrees with you doesn’t mean he wants to motorboat pubescent puerto rican boobies all night then go doggy style after an hour of 69

    clint made a movie back in your grandmas time called, like – Every Which Way but Loose

    hee-larry-ous

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  68. I found this through a link in an article which is liined above.

    The links legend’s spouse is reportedly being paid a hefty seven-figure amount — immediately transferred into an account she alone controls — to stick with her husband,” Sun-Times columnist Bill Zwecker reported. He goes on to write that Elin demanded and is getting a total rewrite of the couple’s prenuptial agreement. The couple wed in 2004 and have two children.

    Reportedly, the couple had an agreement that stipulated they must remain married for 10 years in order for Elin to collect a settlement of $20 million, and that is the part of the settlement being negotiated.

    He’s nuts to renegotiate that too much — though not at all nuts to have transferred in a seven figures number to her own account. Sounds like 3 to 5 mill. Gives her some security. A really tough prenup may be part of why she went so nuts. Tough is good and splitting half a billion or whatever he has is nuts, but too incredibly tough doesn’t look good or work well when you’re as rich as Tiger and it’s a he cheated situation (obviously without any permission from her, which is what he should have gotten in the prenup or a side agreement too it would be better actually).

    Though with the amount of child support she’d get she’d hardly be in tough shape. Just not as incredibly plush as now.

    The reason it makes sense to do so some, IF he wants to stay with her and she will calm down, is the amount he’ll lose in endorsements if she divorces him over his cheating.

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  69. @Firepower:

    What did I do? ;-;

    And I haven’t seen it.

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  70. Vegas Guy–

    I have been dating this girl for a about 2 months. Mostly she just comes over and we have sex. She thinks of me as her bf kind of now. Last night I went out with a friend and some girls. Now she is being cold in her texts. Her last text was “I’m mad at you”. What is the right alpha response to this?

    Thanks for your help.

    I just noticed this.

    I was gonna say it’s a shit test but that’s not exactly right. You should treat it that way though. Actually what she’s doing is trying out being monogamy demanding, to see if it will fly. Unlike the usual shit test, she actually does want it to fly, not just consciously but viscerally. But that’s because she’s subconsciously trying to move you from low commitment but fun alphaish guy to somewhat (followed by very) betaized exclusively committed guy.

    Your frame should be that of course you are or might be seeing other girls and are free to do so. You haven’t committed exclusivity to her and that’s a (very) hard thing to get you to do, you’re so in demand.

    However that’s not something you want to readily state. You certainly don’t want to argue about it or feel you have to justify it. You can do that but that’s down the road, after you’ve signaled in lots of ways that it’s just your assumed right. It’s of course. When did you promise otherwise? Why should you at this point? You’re not a chump guy but one with options.

    Your frame is that you like her, she’s sexy and fun and interesting or whatever it she actually is, and you like spending time with her, but she’s (readily) replaceable. This will be easier to pull off convincingly from her reading your emotional state if you are actually seeing another hottie or two.

    Specifically you shouldn’t respond at all for a couple of days.

    Then act like she’d said nothing. Invite her over. Or to do something, but a cheap something, followed by sex.

    If she says to you in person that she’s mad at you you should respond with something like:

    Why on earth is my pretty baby mad at me?

    (Because of course you’ve done nothing wrong, and she’s lucky you’re attracted to her too, at this stage.)

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  71. Men like Tiger Woods marry for the same reasons women do.

    They fall in love.

    Don’t fall in love. Regardless of what gender you are, whatever your status, alpha beta or omega.

    I mean it.

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  72. Everything I’m reading says Elin has a prenup that gives her $20 million if she leaves now. They are renogtiating for $55 million if she stays for the next two years and more if they stay together beyond that.

    I think that’s a pretty great prenup. Considering, at least from what I’m reading, if he wants out now, he’s a billionaire giving on $20 mil to his wife. Let’s not forget he makes $100 million a year.

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  73. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-12-03/new-details-on-tigers-prenup/

    What I’m reading is that if Tiger wanted out now, he’d pay less than 20 million, but he’s paying her to stay. Maybe it’s a shrewd economic decision to keep his corporate sponsors. Maybe he loves her and wants to keep his family together. But either way, he’s been pretty shrewd economically. He has literally a billion dollars and makes 100 million a year. He’s 35! The money we’re talking about is chump change.

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  74. on December 4, 2009 at 3:52 am msexceptiontotherule

    “Firepower
    hmmph..your really not from ameriqua, are you – you’re like bikky, from like Bulgaria or Surinam or something

    here, in Amerixico,
    we ONLY fix problems
    after its too late”

    If we can exclude my entire life, then yes, I’m not from America – in fact, I’m not even in America right now (if we’re excluding my whole lifetime, that is).

    I’d run for office
    but
    it would be
    too feminist
    and
    the expected response.

    I have already
    acknowledged
    I’m not barbie
    so
    some things
    I can’t do
    or don’t want to.

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  75. on December 4, 2009 at 8:32 am msexceptiontotherule

    Tiger should get himself some un-cut loose diamonds, have the bar waitress he asked to “please change your voicemail message so it doesn’t say your name” on her voicemail blow on them for luck, and then roll-toss those rocks as distraction for his wife so he can escape.

    “These statistics can’t possibly be true!”

    “They’re not, I just couldn’t find statistics to support my side of the argument…which I plan to switch back and forth from one to the other just to drive you crazy.”

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  76. Cliff Arroyo

    Her last text was “I’m mad at you”. What is the right alpha response to this?

    As short and infuriating as possible, indicating you don’t care if she’s mad or not. Possible answers in roughly increasing degree of assholiness.

    “Okay.”

    “And?”

    “So?”

    “Great!”

    “I win”

    “Yay me!”

    “Whoosh!”

    Those are all good. Better still to not reply. If she calls have a dead, cold, emotionless voice. Answer with “what”, rather than hello.

    If you meet her before she calls and she wangs and winges at you for not responding to her texts, tell her you don’t like to text.

    It will piss her the fuck off, which is what you WANT.

    You want to win the game of emotional manipulation, by outclassing her at it. Be so far above it she doesn’t stand a chance. Ruin her will to even try to manipulate you.

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  77. on December 4, 2009 at 1:49 pm Wendy Schwartz

    I refuse to follow this Tiger Woods story because who the fuck cares, but whatever the “adultery” argument is….it’s very simple.

    If a man cheats on his wife, he’s a piece of shit and deserves every bit of “horror” that comes from it.

    A woman who cheats on her husband is a piece of shit and deserves to pop out a black baby that she can’t pass off as her hubby’s.

    Meaning that if you GET MARRIED that is the ONLY rule you have to follow (unless you have both agreed otherwise). Be monogamous. If you don’t “like” monogamy (like I don’t) then you shouldn’t get married.

    A cheater is an awful person….whether in marriage or otherwise simply because they don’t have the balls to simply say to their partner “you know….I’m just not as into this as I used to be and we need to have the option of either dating other people or splitting up entirely.”

    Men and women who cannot (or will not) have the balls to just TELL their partner and have to intentionally manipulate, lie, hide, sneak, and hurt their partner JUST to fuck someone else deserves EVERYTHING they get.

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  78. kwl vid on the “Tiger Glorious Swoosh of Fortune Meeting Most Happy Wife” or some other azn humor

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  79. on December 4, 2009 at 3:17 pm СОФИЯ/sofia

    Is this the video with the Sim recreation of the Tiger Woods incident? I love how Asians cutesify everything, even violence.

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  80. “”I love how Asians cutesify everything, even violence.””

    During World War 2 , the Japanese were particularly cruel and brutal towards POW’s , I guess they just didn’t have the technology or time to make it cute.

    Laying the smack down in Hiroshima and Nagasaki brought that little party to a sudden halt.

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  81. But the marriage records of Rock Hudson, Elton John or Liberace would be more applicable. Those guys was smart.

    -Firepower

    But Liberace got sued for palimony, and settled out of court.

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  82. You need to do a story on “Foxy Knoxy as Maneater”: A modern day witch has been caught.

    Many in the Liberal Press are dismissing this murder as ‘Railroading of an Innocent abroad’ like some Henry James novel…..or Anti-Americanism.

    A few censored NYT blog comments are accurately casting her as a Socio-Path unable to stop smiling at her kill, female and male.

    She is a tumor on American Womanhood and in her most benign form has exposed a rotting foundation that is spreading unchecked far and wide in the USA.

    As many know, the “Jr. Year Abroad” has been a genteel fixture of young ladies seeking mediteranean lust for generations going back to Jackie-O. Most went, studied a bit, and slept alot with older Professors, young playboys and just swarthy locals who made their squeaky clean red-necks back home look bland. Then after sowing said wild oats, they came back and settled back in the USA, with none the wiser.

    None of this matters, except when the socio-path enters. Her shakles thrown off, she destroys at will. Cloaked in the novelty of the exotic, uninhibited American, she is the Blackwidow as Butterfly.

    Beware, her Myspace page is the Miss Jekyl/Hyde, that many game-players here engage on a daily basis and ‘know’. These are the women who endear rage, wrath, and fury in civilized man.

    Her herpes sores erupted only when trapped, revealing her rotting soul. Many more infest our society, not condemned by an ancient paternalstic society that will not accept a praying mantiss godess.

    Heed the warning: You have seen a witch.

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  83. I’m going to comment as a woman. The reason women are willing to put with George and not Tiger is because George is honest. He’s honest about not wanting a committment marriage, and so a woman who really wants a committment can know to look elsewhere…But Tiger was not honest-apparently with any of the women. If Tiger wants to play around the field he’s more than entitled to do so. But what he had no business doing was making the promises it seems he made to Elin. Its ridiculous to call Elin a gold digger. She signed a prenup, she’s kept her end of this marriage. It is Tiger wh seems to have been very misleading and dishonest. The scariest part about this for Elin is that while Tiger was sleeping with all these women who are also very promiscious, Elin was having unprotected sex with him to get pregnant….This could have put her and the baby in danger. Tiger seems to want to live the promiscious lifestyle and that’s fine. But it doesn’t seem like Elin signed up for that or those risks.

    So the point is the issue of honesty. George is honest and upfront, Tiger is not.

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  84. Tiger didn’t muff in the rough. He screwed up PR. He has a prenup. Too many folks talk about this overlooking that basic fact.

    If Elin is such the noble and hurt wife, she leaves. She won’t. She instead is like a ballplayer renegotiating an extension.

    It’s all business between these two. She’s redoing her two year deal and he’s agreeing to do so. The money at risk is much higher and he’s willing to pay her more in order to preserve those future earnings.

    Everything else is much ado about nothing. This is the game at the ultra rich level. Nothing more.

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  85. If you want to screw numerous women I have a bit of sage advice for you.Don’t get married,idiot. DUH!
    In marriage vows they clearly state “Forsaking all others”.
    If you don’t know what that means,don’t get married.Tiger is actually a DOG. Imagine how humiliated his poor wife is,through absolutely no fault of her own.
    Men know that by cheating on their wife it is only going to cause her pain,so why then do they do it?
    Quite simply to satisfy their own selfish wants,not needs,because if it were needs then he has his wife for those.It is about time you stupid men out there realise that sex is not everything and if it is,go and get some mental help.
    By his absolutely moronic and selfish actions he has completely destroyed her life.
    What a lovely bloke,NOT!
    HE IS BLOODY UGLY TOO.He wouldn’t get me…eeewww.

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  86. Cate, who cares? Do you think Tiger cares about your opinion?

    Do you think your opinion will have any effect on any married man who finds himself in the position of being able to satisfy his very real sexual desires?

    Shame away. It’s impotent sputtering.

    It won’t change either his desires or his ability to fulfill them. Nor the desires or ability of other men.

    Alphas are shameless. Your shame has no effect on either him or the women who want to fuck him. No one cares how outraged you are. Except other sputtering girls.

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  87. Everybody be careful! Cate is about to have an emotion! Better watch out! Oh no! We’ve hurt Cate’s feelings! Run!

    The fact that men who are not overburdened by empathy and are not overly affected by other peoples opinions of them are more sexually attractive is not a moral issue. It’s a fact.

    Men who see what they want and take it, regardless of social shaming, men who pass shite tests, men who ignore women’s feelings, men who hurt women. These men are more attractive than empathetic men.

    Poor you then. Cry.

    I started my male career as overly empathetic. Women taught me better. You adapt and learn, and the sexual marketplace teaches men that an excess of empathy is a sexual handicap.

    So go on and cry, Cate. I don’t care. Cry and moan and bitch. If I married you I’d fuck around, and it’s up to you if you think that “ruins your life”. If I have non-monogamous sex, it doesn’t ruin anyone. I’m not doing anything bad to anyone. Cry.

    I don’t care.

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  88. xsplat,
    I couldn’t give 2 fucks whether or not Tiger woods cares what I think or not.You have obviously missed the point,as men usually do.You are just a dickhead by the sounds of it.
    Re read what I said if you don’t understand.
    Get a life and stop making excuses for stupid mens actions.DON’T GET MARRIED IF YOU WANT TO FUCK AROUND,STUPID,DUH!!!
    What is it with some people?
    You are obviously a couple of roos short of the top paddock,silly splat.
    FUCK mens sexual desires.Be honourable and keep your fucking word when you get married.
    Now that’s respectable.

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  89. Hey Cate,

    Don’t marry an alpha if you don’t want your husband to have sex with other women.

    Be honorable and don’t make a scene about trivial issues like who your husband is dicking. It has nothing to do with you.

    Don’t marry if you don’t plan on being faithful? Who are you to say that? Some men might want to marry and not be faithful. Some women might want to marry an alpha, with full expectation that he might cheat.

    You do understand the risks of marrying a high status man, don’t you?

    If not, that’s your fault. There are risks. Get over it. It’s real and you can’t change it.

    Men who get status tend to not be monogamous. What you think should be or what people should do affects nothing. That is what happens in the real world, consistently.

    Don’t marry a high status man if you want monogamy.

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  90. Listen xsplat,
    For whatever reason you appear to be a total mysogynist. (That means women hater),lmfao. It are devious,mysogynistic,pieces of shit like you that give Real and decent men a bad name.You obviously know completely zero about women, that you are such a bitter and twisted fuck.It’s not the worlds fault that the only women that would give you the time of day,(or night,lol) are the ones you put on your amex.It’s no wonder the world is such a fucked up place with morons like you roaming the street.
    God help us all.

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  91. Wow, Cate – you are right! I see the light now.

    Thanks for saving my soul.

    I’ll go out now with my live in girlfriend of 7 months and repent for my evil thoughts.

    She isn’t a valid human though, as she is nothing but a poor Asian. Seventeen years younger than me. Probably only hangs with my evil self for my money.

    I see the light! Thank you!

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  92. By the way if marriage is so trivial,why do it then?Just to sure up a root.Wake up and stay single then.If you are that ugly and stupid enough that you have to marry to make sure you get regular sex,then be grateful,son be very bloody grateful that a woman has taken such pity on you.Boo hoo exsplat is crying now.For my reckoning though I’d say the only time you get a spine is when another blokes penis is you know where,lmfao.
    FUCK OFF TOOL.

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  93. Ok Kate! I’ll fuck off!

    Wow, you sure showed me. I feel so shamed now.

    You are correct though that marriage is a game for fools and men with low sex drives.

    And a woman who marries a man with a high sex drive would be…?

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  94. YOU SAID IT SPLAT.7mnths,asian after your cash,ha.God knows what the poor woman or man has to put up with,with you.Nightly bashings I’d say.By the way show your other half all the messages you have sent me and I will tell you,you wont even have you alleged girlfriend let alone a wife some day.C’mon splat be honest for a change,that would be refreshing.

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  95. Putting words in someones mouth is never a good idea mate,especially on a public forum.Keep your promise splat and “FUCK OFF”.

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  96. Or better still splat,”get a nine iron up ya”that should do the trick.

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  97. i don’t know which is cornier, women speaking in fake wigger dialect in us, or fake chav dialect in uk

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  98. ””””””Phenomenal One
    “(2) Tiger was already famous and rich when he got married. If ANY super-rich man doesn’t conduct ALL his business affairs as though everyone else were a shark, then he’s a fool.

    In fact, I would go so far as to say that any rich man would be a complete idiot to marry ANY woman who didn’t either (a) know him before he had money, or (b) didn’t learn that he had money until she had already fallen for him.”

    I have a cousin who’s the boss of a record label.
    Between one ex wife, his current wife (who was a past ex wife) and a past lover, he has at least 5 kids.

    I don’t feel sorry for em at all

    The more sh!t you have, the more flies will come.
    ””””””””””””
    Why take pride in rich dudes getting fucked. Don’t envy just man up and become rich. So I work my ass off and become multimillionaire and I got to give half away. If that isn’t retarded don’t know what is. When you sell off half a business it becomes really difficult to keep the business going when you have a pizza oven but no pizza place. Really average millionaires the ones really getting fucked on this shit. Put in lifetime of work and in the end it is easily destroyed by lawyers fees and bullshit.

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  99. Australian you feeble minded twit,Dana.The yanks are the ones who rip the Aussies off.Just switch on your tv for proof.

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  100. on December 12, 2009 at 10:16 pm gunslingergregi

    What is a shame though is he could have manned up and told his wife he was gonna do what he was gonna do. Then he could have lived up to “just do it”

    So dood a billionaire and only got 12 chicks coming forward. So he must of not been going buck wild. Bill Gates has that many written into his prenump. He gets a vacation to do whatever he wants every year. So I guess gates alpha compared to tiger but still

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