The Feminist Push To Sanction Female Infidelity

Recall the Chateau Heartiste description of feminism:

The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.

If you examine feminist ideas in detail, most of them amount to justifications for the above formulation. A feminist utopia is one in which women, particularly ugly women, have limitless options in the sexual and economic markets while men’s options are curtailed to the fullest extent possible. (Which would necessarily have to be the case, since a low value woman can’t have increased sexual options — i.e., amplified hypergamy — without negatively affecting the options of a man with similar SMV.)

Eager to prove the CH elucidation of their ultimate goals correct, feminists and their psychotherapist allies are now pushing to sanction female infidelity.

But recently, a handful of therapists have started to push the idea that affairs can rescue a marriage and to define exactly in what instances that might be true. “People shriek and cry when they are confronted with an affair,” Brown writes in her essay, “The Affair as a Catalyst for Change,” which appears in the book Infidelity“Almost never do they realize that it might be the best thing that ever happened to them.”

Last year’s annual conference of the American Family Therapy academy allowed a panel about affairs called “From Trauma to Transformation,” which was the first time that idea officially entered the lexicon, says Esther Perel, author of Mating in Captivity and a couples therapist who is writing her next book on affairs. It was public and professional acceptance for the idea that an “affair doesn’t necessarily end a marriage and can possibly make it stronger.”

Ignore the psychobabble. It’s smoke and mirrors meant to distract from what the real intention of this change in judgment signifies. What feminists are attempting to do here is nothing short of legitimize the biologically innate female imperative to fuck alpha males during ovulation and extract resources from beta males during infertile periods of the monthly cycle. CH predicted it: Feminists and various “health professionals” would agitate to normalize the “alpha fux, beta bux” female mating strategy. As society becomes ever more feminized and emasculated, expect to see more of these rancid ideas percolate in mainstream discussion, as the pro-female directive and anti-male directive reach their demonic apotheoses.

You might say, “Well, this means men can be unfaithful without consequence, too!” Oh, ye of precious naivete. Men won’t be let off the hook. The divorce industrial and family court complexes are rigged against the interests of men, and getting more rigged by the day. An army of leftoids fed on the swill of legalese will barely break a sweat holding the contradictory beliefs that women cheat for good reasons and men cheat because they’re oppressive patriarchs.

Eventually, with the help of dazzling sophistry, the law will be twisted to such a warped geometry that the people will come to accept injustice as fairness and lies as truth. And those who bitterly cling to old-fashioned notions of justice will be scorned as rubes and cast out of polite society, their reputations and livelihoods destroyed with the ease of smashing an insect.

The irony of this feminism-inspired dross is that a case can be made that male infidelity might very well enhance marital stability, over the long term. Men are naturally disposed to seek and enjoy mate variety, and men are better than women at maintaining multiple lovers without sacrificing love or duty for any one of them. This is because men, unlike women, can easily sever sex from emotional connection. A cheating husband who gets his sexual needs met will feel less resentment toward his frigid wife. A cheating wife, in contrast, will feel more resentment for her beta husband who will assume the role for her of the man “keeping her from happiness”. There’s a reason “eat, pray, love” is marketed to the fantasies of women.

This isn’t to suggest that excusing male infidelity is good for the institution of marriage and the sustenance of an advanced, high trust civilization. Only that, if we are to set down this road of rationalizing the benefits of infidelity, it makes a lot more sense to grant husbands the generous latitude to pursue extramarital pleasures than it does to grant wives that same freedom. The consequences of wifely betrayal are a lot worse. (“but… the kiiid is not my son. woo hoo hoo”)

Feminism is the sick, wheezing spawn of its parent ideology, equalism, the belief in a magical flying spaghetti monster that imbues all humans with equal ability and equal worth, interchangeable flesh cogs that can as easily master astrophysics as lawn care given the right dose of self-esteem boosting pablum.

Whatever the self-professed noble intentions of their advocates, these ideologies are as wicked and destructive as any genocidal revolutions that have come before them. This is why CH, a citadel firm, guarded by sentries of ancient woods, illuminating a path to enlightenment, will never cease in its mission to utterly crush evil, sick ideologies like feminism so totally that there is no space for even the ashes of its immolation to gather in a stiff wind. Feminism’s proponents will suffer endless ridicule should they choose to fight, or they will retreat from the public square to lick their wounds in the comfort of their silent seething thoughts. And, if the spoils of victory are rich indeed, some will self-deliver to release the pain.

In related shivving, here’s a video of Hanna Rosin’s family engaged in a mock trial about the superiority of girls to boys. On the next episode of “The Hanna Propaganda Hour”: My boy’s first sexual identity crisis!





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  1. I have often said that feminism turns the world into a slut factory.

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    • “This isn’t to suggest that excusing male infidelity is good for the institution of marriage and the sustenance of an advanced, high trust civilisation.”

      Hence older traditions had polygamy. Bored husbands do not productive men make.

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      • article has something for everyone, btw. this one goes out to ‘amazing’ older women.

        “One young man told me the white women he had sex with made him feel sick. ‘They stink, have rough skin and look like old dogs. No wonder they have to pay for a man’”

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      • On the other hand, however, these women gets break from the hapless beta boys and man boobs, and instead get to spend time sucking cocks of men who’re necessarily much more traditionally raised in absence of libertarian conditioning. No wonder they’re willing to pay good money.

        I, for one, don’t see why any man would be willing to put with that.

        You couldn’t pay me a Million Dollars to sleep with the giant old land whales. Serious.

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      • “‘Chris never got that money he was owed,’ she says. ‘I ended up paying for everything and once, when I refused, he told me he could pick up any white woman he wanted who would be happy to give him money.’
        Despite this, she remained under the illusion until the end of her holiday that Chris was her boyfriend.”

        See what I mean?

        “She says now: ‘If he pretended to fancy me when we were together and just slept with me for money, does that make him a prostitute — or just a lying b*****d?’”

        Is hate the opposite of love? Truly?

        I’d suppose the true opposite of love would be cold unthinking indifference where she couldn’t give a damn about the man if he fell off the face of the planet.

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      • Heh. A sexually worthless woman gets treated like a beta male. lzozlzolzolzoz

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      • your dad did it for free.

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      • Yeah, I saw a “documentary” about this sometime ago. It was glorified.

        But CH has been amply and visibly clear in his stance that foreign travel necessarily leads to foreign cock. I concur, except sometimes the oldies and fatties need to pay money to have any affair, directly or indirectly.

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      • How do male prostitutes become aroused enough to perform when their clients are old/fat/ugly? I’ve always wondered this.

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      • Easy: they’re black.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 1:19 pm Hilary Clinton

        Memo from MSM – there is no such thing as race differences

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      • And their own women aren’t Goddesses either.

        Isn’t it funny how prosperity in civilisations is always linked to great female beauty?

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      • It’s logical, though. Men are more likely to commit to knockouts because of their beauty, and use fugs for short-term pump-‘n-dump relationships because they’re horny and fugs are easy. Rinse and repeat over the generations, and you get classic r-selection and K-selection, with the latter selecting for female beauty.

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      • Amusingly, it would also seem that black women in Catholic Latin American countries (Brazil, Dominican Republic, etc.) tend to be somewhat more attractive because the Church tried to enforce a measure of K-selection. But in Anglo America, the authorities didn’t seem to care too much whether their slaves were in real marriages or not.

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      • yeah doods

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      • Julia

        How do male prostitutes become aroused enough to perform when their clients are old/fat/ugly? I’ve always wondered this.
        ———————————————————————————————-

        They’re hungry.

        But since a fat girl like you has never missed a meal a day in your life, you have no idea what a motivator it can be.

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      • VIAGRA

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      • “Barbara, like many women who find ‘romance’ in Negril, says she is shunned by men of her own age in the UK, ‘because they want thinner, younger women and for some reason can get them’.”

        For some reason. Thanks again feminism!

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    • “This isn’t to suggest that excusing male infidelity is good for the institution of marriage and the sustenance of an advanced, high trust civilisation.”

      Which is why to cater to men’s craving of sexual variety, polygamy was accepted in many traditions. Of course based upon the SMV (often related and proportional to resources the man had). Hence the social classes.

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    • “The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality… Feminists and various “health professionals” would agitate to normalize the “alpha fux, beta bux” female mating strategy. As society becomes ever more feminized and emasculated, expect to see more of these rancid ideas percolate in mainstream discussion, as the pro-female directive and anti-male directive reach their demonic apotheoses… The divorce industrial and family court complexes are rigged against the interests of men, and getting more rigged by the day. An army of leftoids fed on the swill of legalese will barely break a sweat holding the contradictory beliefs that women cheat for good reasons and men cheat because they’re oppressive patriarchs. Eventually, with the help of dazzling sophistry, the law will be twisted to such a warped geometry that the people will come to accept injustice as fairness and lies as truth…”

      All of this anti-Western nihilism brought to you courtesy of your friendly neighborhood branch orifice of The Frankfurt School:

      Revelation of the Mystery of the Emancipation of Women, Or Louise Morel
      Karl Marx, 1845
      http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/holy-family/ch08_6.htm

      The Employment of Women and Children
      Karl Marx, 1867
      http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch15.htm#S3

      The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State
      Frederick Engels, 1884
      http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/index.htm

      And it’s all proceeding according to schedule.

      Exactly according to schedule.

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 4:06 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzlozozllz

      http://greatbooksformen.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/da-gbfm-rveoltoutinez-da-internetz-woolrd-with-his-alpha-fucks-beta-bucks-poem-zlsososlzlzl-zlzlozozozooz-alpha-fux-and-beta-bux-poetry-poeteriesz-lozozozzo-poem-poem-poem-poetry-lzlzlozozoz/

      ALPHA FUCKS & BETA BUCKS DAT IS HOW WE ROLL! lzozozozo

      DA GBFM rveoltoutinez da internetz woolrd with his ALPHA FUCKS BETA BUCKS POEMZ zlzlozozozooz

      http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23971.html “Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry “


      Post: #3RE: Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry
      GBFM is a genius.
      “alpha fucks and beta bucks” — GBFM”
      “There is a strange hypnotic brilliance to GBFM.”
      “Yeah – his Matrix responses are the best.”
      “I think GBFM is Sven Thompson. Read the comment section how he mentions exactly the books GBFM always mentions. He is completely serious here though.”

      dey be sytitfying an dparsisnig da gbfm at roossh zlozlozoz
      http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23366.html

      “GBFM? What dat’ about?

      Anyone got any theories?

      Also – if I can find it. I will post up one of my favourite comments by him. It is one of the funniest, most bizarre and yet profound comments I have come across.

      [EDIT] – Okay I found it. I love this song from GBFM…

      “da professional womenz ode”

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      dat is how we roll
      da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
      and in our anuthes it doth deosul

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      it is da way of da fed
      to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
      cuckold dose who pay for our bread

      beta bucks and alpha fucks
      it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
      da assetts from betas we plucks
      after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo

      lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

      cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
      datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats”

      lzozlozlzl

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 6:48 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      “da professional womenz ode”

      SPECIAL WEDDING EDITION

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      dat is how we roll
      da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
      and in our anuthes it doth deosul
      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      it is da way of da fed
      to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
      cuckold dose who pay for our bread
      beta bucks and alpha fucks
      it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
      da assetts from betas we plucks
      after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
      lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

      SPECIAL EDITION WEDDING CHORUS lzozozozo

      i gave it 4 free when i was younger hotter tighter
      back in college when i was thirty pounds lighter
      can’t hardly wait to butthext yyou in divorce court
      and have you fund my favorite buttehxtual sport
      gonna buy sexy lingerie with all dat alimonee
      fuck & suck alpha cocks as ur beta cock is just 4 pee
      tee hee hee teee heee heee l
      tee hee hee teee heee heee !
      i’m da modern liberated womanz
      i buttehxt before and after marriage
      and during it too, but not with you
      but with the father of da baby in da carriage
      lzozozzlozoz

      cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
      datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

      zlzlzzozozozo

      zlzoozozozozo

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 6:49 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozoozoz

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 6:50 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzlzlzlzoz

        lzlzozoozoz

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 6:53 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzlzozozozo

        lzlzozozozzo

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      • E. Michael Jones is a really smart guy. I’d guess his IQ is well above 150. If you’re interested in Catholic theology and want it delivered as a well stated philosophical case, this is your man. His book “The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit” is also an excellent and encyclopedic work on the long term conflict between Judaism and Catholicism and Western Civilization for the last 2000 years.

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      • E. Michael Jones is a really smart guy. I’d guess his IQ is well above 150.
        ——————————————————————————————-

        Do you think its his “IQ” that makes him so effective, or his will?

        He is smart enough to make more money easier doing something else. Why does he spend his time delivering Catholic theology as a well stated philosophical case?

        And yes I have a follow up question.

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      • My IQ is significantly higher than that, and I’m anything but effective.

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      • How do you know you are ineffective?

        When the defeated Indians began doing the Ghost dance did they know what a 711 or Home Depot parking lot was?

        methinks you speakith too soon?

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      • Thwack, I bet you’ll like the writings of R. A. Lafferty. He’s my favorite insane conservative Catholic science fiction writer. Here’s a page from one of his best shorts, Narrow Valley

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  2. “The irony of this feminism-inspired dross is that a case can be made that male infidelity might very well enhance marital stability, over the long term. Men are naturally disposed to seek and enjoy mate variety, and men are better than women at maintaining multiple lovers without sacrificing love or duty for any one of them. This is because men, unlike women, can easily sever sex from emotional connection. A cheating husband who gets his sexual needs met will feel less resentment toward his frigid wife.”

    Eh, I don’t believe this stuff anymore. I used to think married dudes would never leave their wives because that’s what people say. However, I don’t think it’s true. Married guys will only not leave their wives if they have small children. If they have no children or children that adults or nearly adults, they are actually quite prone to shifting favor entirely towards the mistress. The older a guy gets, the younger his mistress probably is compared to his wife. When the wife gets over 40, mistress doesn’t have to do a whole lot to steal the husband.

    This is fortunate for me now, but it’s actually completely unfortunate for me in the long term.

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    • Well, the onus is on you is to use it to your benefit while you still have time. Figure out how far away Columbus, Ohio is and report back to me so I can calculate your drive and give you directions. For now sex will suffice for our relationship, but if you can cook that is a bonus and will give you a few merit points over the competition. I prefer you wear red or white lingerie, though black will suffice in a pinch. Move fast, your clock is ticking and you ain’t getting any younger.

      And I agree, the older the kids get the less inclined I am to invest effort in the vestigial wife. What’s the point?

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      • Sluts don’t get any of that.

        Bitches be like, “You outta yo mind?”

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      • Sorry man. I live in nyc and I don’t know how to drive.

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      • The ages from 10 – 20 is -when kids need dad. From 0 – 10 is when they needed mom. So as you get the kids closer to 20 you reduce the damage from the kids not having dad around, but I can see value in staying for the whole period while you’re the star of the show, and don’t work yourself to death in those years either, your kids need the time with you.

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      • More like 0 – 5 Mom and 5 – 15 Dad.

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      • Sorry. Kids need dad from the get go. Not necessarily to be there all the time, but certainly as a masculine force to look up to. Women struggle even with small children.

        Fathers are far more important to the well being of children than mothers. We simply didn’t realize how badly women function when there is no baby daddy around.

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      • Agreed.

        First 5 years a woman’s empathy might be important.

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      • 0 – 20 Dad.
        Kids need dad from the get go. Not necessarily to be there all the time, but certainly as a masculine force to look up to, to lean on, to emulate. Also for stability and a moral compass (women’s morality is essentially based upon her feelings. In other words, without a male moral standard, her ‘morality’ shifts like sand in the wind).
        Women struggle even with small children.
        Fathers are far more important to the well-being of children than mothers. We simply didn’t realize how badly women function when there is no baby daddy around.

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      • Eh, in the new normal 0-45 is more like it.

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 12:54 pm Holden Caulfield

      From the CH archives:

      Women get cheated on for four reasons, three of which they are complicit in their own betrayal.

      They have stopped catering to a man’s desire. Women who choose to get fat or withhold sex are ripe candidates for being cheated on. A man who is driven to cheating by his fat, frigid wife has my sympathies.
      They tingle for assholes. About 1/3 of women — usually the hottest chicks — have an irresistible urge to copulate with assholes, jerks, thugs and other assorted aloof cads. (Another 1/3 are susceptible to the asshole’s charms but are occasionally capable of eschewing the blind cravings of their vaginas.) Naturally, the assholes cheat. These women then cry foul, but they have invited betrayal into their lives. Their pain was prophesied the moment they spread their legs.
      They shoot out of their league. I would tell a woman: You want to date an alpha one or more points higher than you? Prepare to be betrayed at some future date, said date which will be sooner rather than later if he’s considerably higher value than what you could be expected to get. More than a few women are OK with this trade-off.
      Men like variety. Women have no control over this. Men are programmed to enjoy the hunt, and to experience pleasure from a multitude of pussy, and men with options are able to fulfill that desire. The best women can do to counter this manly impulse is to be young and hot.

      Read the last sentence a few times: It is stone cold truth.

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      • I think the best thing to do is for women to also go their own way. Men have plenty to gain by going their own way. Women can avoid getting fat, avoid being frigid, avoid alpha cads, and marry men below them in SMV, but they can never avoid getting older. Men are naturally programmed to want variety in their partners and to only want women under 30. Men and women are just too different and everybody should go their own way.

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    • “Eh, I don’t believe this stuff anymore. I used to think married dudes would never leave their wives because that’s what people say. However, I don’t think it’s true. Married guys will only not leave their wives if they have small children. If they have no children or children that adults or nearly adults, they are actually quite prone to shifting favor entirely towards the mistress. The older a guy gets, the younger his mistress probably is compared to his wife. When the wife gets over 40, mistress doesn’t have to do a whole lot to steal the husband.”

      The notion CH is suggesting is we are much better equipped to take into account your past contribution and loyalty than you in your hypergamous inevitability are.

      So it varies.

      Of course a reproductively obsolete woman is never going to be nearly as sexy as a 19 year old healthy nubile one. That’s what marks women’s perishability. But then if a woman has actually lovingly nurtured and taken care of me all her life, along with my children, I’d only be inclined to fuck other women, and I can be expected not to act rash in an emotional maelstrom and dump my loving, respectable wife.

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    • What happened to “FX”?

      What does “little spoon” mean?

      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=little+spoon

      ???

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  3. Rosinplotz? Seriously, this “smart” family is going to handicap their kids with that?

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  4. Women are already on board. Just last week I was reading a reddit thread in “relationship advice” posted by a man whose wife wanted to have an “open relationship”. He resisted. She nagged and guilt tripped him until he finally gave in and agreed. She then proceeded to fuck elven different guys. Eventually, the husband finally managed to bag one woman. (She was 19, the wife was thirty four). And surprise, surprise. The wife then decided that an open relationship wasn’t good for the marriage and demanded the husband break it off with the nineteen year old.
    Of course, you could write all this off to being an outlier. A completely fucked up couple. Until you read the HUNDREDS of comments, almost all from women (although a few from manginas and white knights, as well) calling the husband selfish and claiming that if he didn’t stop sleeping with the other woman, he obviously didn’t love his wife and/or care about his marriage.
    Heed the words of Chateau Heartiste. Institutionalized cuckolding is going to be the next big push.

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 12:46 pm Holden Caulfield

      This. Women only ever see it their way, no matter how illogical or irrational. Manboobs and white knighting idiots follow right along with these females as well, just hoping they might one day get to be cuckolded.

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      • Manboobs and white knighting idiots follow right along with these females as well, just hoping they might one day get to be cuckolded.

        At first this sentence jumped out as illogical… but after thinking it over, I’m not so sure.

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    • The only reason a woman even dares to ask a man to have an open relationship is because she knows he hasn’t the balls to punish her. And so just like a dog who shit tests you for the first time by barking a little, but continues escalating his shit tests until an eventual bite of your flesh if you never punish him, the woman just continues pushing the humiliation envelope as far as she can.

      The way I see it… If your woman wants an open relationship, she just wants your money and stuff, and wants other men’s cock, and knows you are too pussy whipped to deny her your resources even as she gets her tingles, orgasms and depraved fantasy plays from other men.

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      • > “If your woman wants an open relationship”

        If the very thought of it even crosses your woman’s mind for so much as the tiniest fraction of a microsecond, then YOU are already TOAST.

        Or maybe I should say: Then she was never “YOUR” woman in the first place.

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      • Yes.

        If your woman is not worrying about the possibility of you leaving her at least some of the time, then you’re soon going to be toast.

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      • Zombie, I generally agree, but people change over the course of a long marriage. The first five years is different from the third or fourth five, and I haven’t gotten to the fifth five years yet. Since the kids will be in college by then, not sure I will want to, tbh.

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      • Had that happen to a friend after 8 years togethers and a couple of kids. At 28 the wife decided she wanted an open relationship (she was too young, hadn’t ride the carousel, etc). Both religious. She offered threesome, etc. He said no.

        He tried to reason with her with (obviously) zero success.Relationship kept deteriorating for some months (almost a year). She moved out. He’s making money, kept the apartment. She’s no money, can’t save any cause she wastes it. Had some “friend” at work.

        Now my friend after less than a month is considering his new single life and she is asking him about it. He’s assumed the situation very quickly and reacted accordingly meeting new girls, going out, etc.

        So yes, if she is considering it, you are toasted. Act accordingly. Up the alpha and if you don’t want that, kick the bitch out with no remorse and no looking back

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      • I’d rejoice after a day or two of introspection if that ever happened to me.

        You just got her best years, and now are free to get someone else’s.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 12:02 pm haunted trilobite

        She seemed to religiously believe in the sermons from the Marxist televisual pulpit all right

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      • ocr
        one cock rule!

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      • if your woman wants an open relationship tell her to open her legs and we’ll have a relationship lozolozl

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    • Women only see value lol. For better or worse.

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    • There was another Reddit thread on the same topic, but by the woman. However, this guy responded in about the most Alpha way possible to his GF of 5years who wanted an open relationship.
      He asked if she was serious, she responded that she was. He told her she could have sex with whoever she wanted, then packed his stuff and told to have a nice life.
      He absolutely excised this woman from his life and would not allow her to contact him.

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      • I feel like the most alpha way possible would have been ‘I agree, I’ve been wanting to fuck these young hot chicks for awhile now, I’m so glad we had this conversation,’ then proceed to immediately start building a harem of hotties.

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      • They were in an LTR and the guy was a very monogamous guy. He wanted one woman on his terms. Him living on his terms was what was important to him.

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      • > “He told her she could have sex with whoever she wanted, then packed his stuff and told to have a nice life. He absolutely excised this woman from his life and would not allow her to contact him.”

        That is the only – and I mean THE ONLY – way to deal with the nihilism of the Leftoids.

        Get that shit the hell outta your life.

        Divorce yourself from it – completely.

        Do not socialize with those motherfuckers.

        Do not break bread with those motherfuckers.

        Do not date their filthy stinking worthless whores.

        GET THEM THE HELL OUTTA YOUR LIFE.

        Get yourself some halfway righteous comrades and y’all start prepping for the end times.

        Put some buns in white bitches’ ovens.

        Stock up on ammunition and antibiotics and potable water.

        Homeschool FTW.

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      • “Stock up on ammunition and antibiotics and potable water.”

        and do not share it with them in case of emergency. we can’t perpetuate their self-destruction

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      • do not share it with them in case of emergency.

        Sharing the ammunition is ok as long as you give it to them at 1500fps

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      • You are 1700fps slow, but I like the way you think.

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      • I dump women as soon as I see a feminist.

        Of course I still fuck them. But then I dump them just as fast.

        But here’s what I have found: Many hot women are pretend feminists. They just utter BS because they feel it makes them look important or something like that.

        Then they come right around and in a moment of submissive clarity tell me, “You know that I’m stupid so never listen to me.” No shit!

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      • I think many women generally are just pretend feminists. They tow the party line because that’s what they’re supposed to say and think, but if you act like a man, like as not they’ll act like a woman.

        More and more, I’m coming to see feminism as the biggest shit test in the history of mankind.

        This is a double edged sword for the guy whose fat, frigid wife ceases to be frigid. I’ve been on nofap for awhile, so I’m ending up having sex with my wife more often, because she’s there and free for the taking without changing out of my underwear and actually getting the fuck out in the world. Barf. I’m truly a man whore. Fucking that thing saves me at least $50,000 and I get to keep my wood shop, but it is costing me a lot in other ways.

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      • Now you can escalate this to weight control.

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      • or just be tight and lead by example lol
        I agree only with putting buns in white bitches’ ovens on the list.

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      • Sickle cell disease! Just what a bitch always wanted!

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      • MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

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    • “She then proceeded to fuck elven different guys”

      I have to ask. Do you think it was the long, pointy ears?

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    • ” Just last week I was reading a reddit thread in “relationship advice” posted by a man whose wife wanted to have an “open relationship”.”

      Link?

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  5. This is backwards: “This is because men, unlike women, can easily sever sex from emotional connection.”

    Most men fell in love with, and stayed in love with, the hot women who had sex with them, and when the women dumped them, the women turned off the “emotional connection” as easily as turning off a light switch. Pure coldness from the female side.

    The truth is that a man can have an affair with 4 women and actually love and take care of and be a net giver, not net taker, with all of them. When a woman cheats on her beta husband, she resents the beta husband with a seething contempt not even a convicted rapist could inspire, and she gives said beta *nothing* while taking *everything*, including all of his money, property, and the very soul he needs to have the energy to be a man every day.

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    • And CH and you PUAs agree with me. I said “most men.” You all agree that “most men” are betas, and only 10% of men are alphas. CH’s quoted sentence applies only to the alphas. Only the alphas can easily sever sex from an emotional connection.

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    • “Most men fell in love with, and stayed in love with, the hot women who had sex with them, and when the women dumped them, the women turned off the “emotional connection” as easily as turning off a light switch. Pure coldness from the female side.”

      You confuse the terms “men” and “hapless males unused to any sexual contact in years”.

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    • I’m pretty convinced that women are faithful to the men who give them tingles. So I gotta agree with the common wisdom. If you’re fucking a girl and she can ‘turn off’ her emotional connection, then a) you no longer give her tingles or b) you never did.

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      • after you’re 35 and have lived a little, your cute confidence will change

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      • Behold the male hamster, gentlemen.

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      • ya by then it will be sexy confidence i hope 🙂

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      • “I’m pretty convinced that women are faithful to the men who give them tingles.”

        Exactly. The emotional connection arises from that.

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      • Right, and it is ALWAYS “what have you done for me lately?” with “lately” meaning “in the past 24 hours.” Tingles, unlike dollars, cannot be stored up in a bank and used later. Which is unfair to men. One slip up and the tingles are gone and the woman hates the man with a seething contempt.

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      • ” … One slip up and the tingles are gone and the woman hates the man with a seething contempt…. ”

        So true.

        as I have said in the past, I can not understand how woman can feel so intense altruism for homeless people or third world immigrants or little turtles in the amazon yet be so …cold, cruel, unfair and inhuman with the man in their life.

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      • That’s just feel good bullshit, usually coming from leftist girls. They definitely don’t feel anything when they think about Africa or shit like that. That’s cynical and completely fucked up.

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      • Do electrode-induced tingles count? Talk about a “connection.”

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      • If you keep the voltage below 9VDC or so, sure…

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      • Electroplay! If she’s into it, sure it counts. 😉

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      • She can surely be convinced.

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      • so we goin’ to wal-mart and stocking up on some 9 volt batteries to shock some sugar walls? easiest ‘game’ in town

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      • You can’t build everything on tingles solelly.

        Tingles are going to pass. Things that give her tingles now will give them less and less over time, until it all becames dull bussines to her. Than a mechanism of serial monogamy turns in. You should be the one that her logical brain chooses and consideres acceptable.

        Offcourse you should if possible hold the upper hand as much as you can, that is still the saffest way to keep a women.

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      • Tingles pass when men become pussies.

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      • No buddy, tingles pass over time too.

        Or: Nobody can be hero all the time, some betaization has to occur. Over time, or over a failure in life. You can restore your confidence sure, but you need time for that and if tingles are the only thing you were counting on… Well you’re in deep shit.

        He told you right: “wait until you’re 35.”

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      • yep with women it is and always will be “what have you done for me lately?” and no man can be perfect 100% forever. Tingles, unlike dollars, cannot be stored in a bank and used later.

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      • why shouldn’t it be that? do you expect someone to just love you while you sit on your ass and get fat and do nothing to develop yourself?

        wtf. it’s like the perfect complement to the fatass housewife.

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      • If you let failure get you down for a significantly long period of time, then either you were playing the game you weren’t cut out for, or you need to tighten yourself up.

        Being down for a day, or even a week is alright, so long as you do it in your cave. Personally, I kill my anxieties in my sleep.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 5:53 pm haunted trilobite

        Follow the money on this one: the Frankfurt school set out to destroy western culture and civilisation through art. Equalism and feminism are derivitives of Marxism, to which CH alluded to with the reference to ‘magical flying spaghetti monster’ (the deity atheists/Marxists refer to to ridicule traditional beliefs which are now ‘kitsch’). Women are being bombarded with images of dizzying grrl power ascents up the ladders of social betterment and onto the YOLO carousel. Subliminal seeds planted by Disney blossom in filthy conditions. The flames of resentment for a husband, who slips into betatude momentarily, are being fanned by old flames who can contact them through ubiquitous surveillance media. Social policy undermines the incarcerated western male, by importing hordes of virile denizens of swarthier origins, further muddying the cultural water.
        They say if you want a woman to tingle for you, you’ve got to do it to her mind. Well her mind is like a wizard’s sleeve at this stage, having been relentlessly penetrated since childhood. The bedrock of Western culture – lifelong monogamous marriages – have been obliterated in a few, short, recent years. Marxism FTW

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      • “do you expect someone to just love you while you sit on your ass and get fat and do nothing to develop yourself?”

        No, did you read what i’ve written?
        the very Displays of your alphatude that turned her on sooo much before, stop to do so after a time.
        So you should like, change your sense of humor, and crack your head to come with i don’t know what new to give her this passing tingles again? You can offcourse soft next her, but you can’t soft next her that easily if your children can go with her…

        Now, that’s my point. As you behave, so will she. If you are triing to give her nothing else but the tingles, relation of her’s towards you will reflect that. She will not only demand more, but you’ll bring on to the surface the selfish her, that is superficial bitch, and quite far from sacrificial wife you would like her to be in your life and the life of your children.

        If you count to use her tingles along with the streanght of her logical brain too, she’s gonna shape her personality according to that.

        Man reader +1
        RP +1
        Though at the age of let’s say 30 and onwards, you might lose the apetite for drama & shit incrisingly, or you might just have shitty boss that tosses you around and that craps your selfconfidance.

        Maybe i should be a bit more general; you start to see that things do have their own rules that you have to hold on to, or you get tossed out of the story.
        Now as your apetite for shit & drama wanes, you’ll be less likely to act pass these rules to have more gain (if you know what i mean), and thus to feel alpha. Having to obey rules, and seeing them as unchagable screws your selfconfidance AT LEAST to some point. It will not be on the level of your youth when you thought that the whole world just waits for you to take it.

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      • ‘the very Displays of your alphatude that turned her on sooo much before, stop to do so after a time.’

        I see. So you’re saying that women are attracted to different things at different times, a statement in conflict with this blog (and the idea of game) and its contention that women — on average — are attracted to the same demonstrated traits.

        ‘She will not only demand more, but you’ll bring on to the surface the selfish her, that is superficial bitch, and quite far from sacrificial wife you would like her to be in your life and the life of your children.’

        Wrong. You’re essentially saying that if a woman lusts after you, that this lust is mutually exclusive with a happy, dedicated home life. This blog discusses and pokes fun at the several lustless (and loveless) marriages out there. A woman in lust with you is a happy, happy woman. A woman in a relationship with you who lacks the tingles is a resentful bitch.

        ‘Now as your apetite for shit & drama wanes, you’ll be less likely to act pass these rules to have more gain (if you know what i mean), and thus to feel alpha. Having to obey rules, and seeing them as unchagable screws your selfconfidance AT LEAST to some point. It will not be on the level of your youth when you thought that the whole world just waits for you to take it.’

        You don’t have to create or cause drama. You CAN, but you don’t have to. Like I said, reading all this shit without going out and applying it warps minds.

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      • Ok, Scray i’ll attempt to explain differently than. Imagine one super hot women.

        First time you see her; she’s perfect, i mean absolutely perfect. But if you spend time with her like every day, and for months, you do know what has to happen? You’ll see her without makeup at some point, ditto women that spend a lot of time with you will see you gameless and broken at some time, and see that you are not a God that she had created you to be in her mind. Offcourse you’ll regain your self confidence, as she will put her makeup back. But the process of the demitologization has irreversibly started. She will still be very hot to you next time she puts the makeup on, it’s just that you’re gonna see her more and more without the makeup, and that picture might stick. Also her best looks will NEVER again have the same magic as it had once you saw her for the first time.

        Now you know that this is, how things are. Did i just said that you started to like different women? Maybe, but that you stopped liking a nice face of a woman, or nice femminine gimmicks, or round, turned on boobs? Hell no.
        It’s just that it’s that prticular her that is not doing her magic for you no more like she used to do.

        See, that’s how it is reversed as well. She saw you dominate your social circle? First time she was literally wet when she saw your regular shit with the domination thing. But once she sees it hundred of times – not so much – didn’t you notice? But than again if someone else in some other setting that she consideres has a high value – DOES THE SAME THING, she’s gonna be wet for him like she used to be for you the first time. Or maybe a bit less, depends how long has it passed since she saw it last time.

        Oh i could write endlessly about this. See rappers in their music spots like they have a villa and a pool full of hotties, that they don’t even look at?
        Because they’re used to them – used to the level of hotness, and in their mind it has became the standard.

        Same thing with our game in girl’s mind.
        So why do they stay with us? Logical brain dictates them to do that, either because of fear of lonellines, or fear of broken hearth if she chases another cad or because of children, blah, blah blah. It would also help very much if the husband DOES invokes tingles here and there, just as YaReally described in his previous post, and if he maintains hand – well that’s a bllessing.

        Even if he maintains hand her attraction to him will wane – at least in shape that was there before. Yes she will be willing to please him, but it seems to me that it’s really out of some “strange” need of her’s – to regain balance, not to have the same level of tingles. Like if he’s not her’s, she losses psychological balance. Whole world crambles…

        Just now comes up an old song on the radio as i’m writting all this, that totally affirms what i’m saying right now… The song is in Croatian, and it wouldn’t meant anything to you anyway, so i won’t bother to translate.

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      • ‘First time you see her; she’s perfect, i mean absolutely perfect. ‘

        Answer — go out with chicks who don’t gain a huge advantage from makeup and who look good natural.

        ‘But once she sees it hundred of times – not so much – didn’t you notice?’

        Ya, again…why? The dominance is attractive. Whenever you display dominance, she will find you attractive. It’s like saying that if you make jokes she finds funny, one day…for whatever reason…she won’t like your jokes any more.

        Maybe what you’re talking about is her feeling of awe at experiencing the emotions. If so, then ya that will fade. At first she’s feeling such strong tingles and she’s never felt this way before (believe it or not, a girl going ga-ga for men bc of their game is rare — as in most guys, even good-looking ones, lack it — and the feeling it evokes…the same). Over time tho, that awe will fade.

        And in marriage, the attraction that fades is correlated with the loss of value you automatically suffer, as YaR said.

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      • “And in marriage, the attraction that fades is correlated with the loss of value you automatically suffer, as YaR said.”

        This is really what it comes down to.

        A hot waitress flirting with you causes jealousy and creates attraction. That’s just how it works.

        Now take two guys:

        Billy the single guy, who’s just fresh into a relationship but his phone is still blowing up with girls txting him and he’s out with his GF who sees him as super high-value and feels lucky to be with him and like he could do better than her.

        The waitress flirts with him…his GF is worried she’ll lose him so she gets jealous, attracted, and bangs his brains out that night.

        Now take Bob from accounting, the run-down beta’ized loser who’s been married to his wife for 10 years and had no back-bone so he allowed her to just steamroll over him with worse and worse behavior, and they have 2 kids at home and he depends on her because he subscribes to the Disney notion that his whole world should revolve around his wife, but she hasn’t put out in years and she knows that there’s no way he can leave the relationship because she will take his money, his kids, and basically cripple his soul.

        She knows there is NO danger of losing him. She can chop his dick off and he’ll stay with her because he has no other alternatives in life and quite frankly, no other woman would find him attractive or want him.

        The waitress flirst with him…his wife doesn’t give a FUCK, and berates him later for being a pervert for even looking at the waitress, and makes him sleep on the couch.

        Now say that bitchy wife gets an “alpha fuck” on the side, some young badboy stallion dude who fucks her brains out and who she knows she’s lucky to have. He’s such a break from her spineless loser hubby that she’s grateful to have him.

        They go to the restaurant for dinner before fucking, while her hubby is out of town on a business trip, and the waitress flirts with that alpha dude she fears losing.

        She reacts the same way the first girl did, being worried she’ll lose him, so she gets jealous, attracted, and bangs his brains out that night.

        The act itself doesn’t “become less attractive over time”. It’s the guy who’s performing the act that gets less attractive and affects the results.

        In an LTR you go through problems and work through them, which is great, but each time you do that, you demonstrate to the girl that you won’t leave her. So every incident of bratty behavior that you let her get away with without Soft Next’ing her, just gives her more reference experiences of “he won’t leave me, even if I misbehave” and she will naturally escalate this to see where your boundaries are.

        Over time, you end up beta’ized and she has less of a fear of loss, so the stuff you did that is still attractive conceptually, is less attractive because of who you’ve become as a man.

        If you then add marriage into it, where you voluntarily legally commit yourself to what is essentially lifetime slavery, so that you REALLY can’t leave, you are handicapping yourself and ensuring that she will have no fear of loss…so when that waitress flirts with you, she doesn’t get jealous and fuck you, she berates you and disrespects you, because YOU have changed and no longer come with a fear of loss.

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      • I see you asserting a lot of stuff up there, yes. To me, this is just like how people blame a lot of their physical fitness failings on getting older when no, actually they just let themselves go and became fatasses.

        Same here. Ya, did you stop being social? did you stop flirting with other women? did you stop taking care of yourself and growing as a man? ya those tingles will fade.

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      • scray you are too young to get it. alexander explained it perfectly. a major point you don’t get is marriage and children — the LAW is on her side and actively encourages her to resent you and divorce you and take your kids and money. then your alpha confidence will suffer and you will only care about the survival of your kids. that is, if you are white.

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      • ya ok. i haven’t yet married, but im confident that this whole ‘the law must make my confidence suffer’ thing is either wildly exaggerated or just way false. tell u wat, if i ever get married and that shit happens, i owe you a coke.

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      • Getting married automatically handicaps you because you remove the option to leave the relationship which takes away most, if not all, of your hand.

        Same time, if you want to settle and have kids and raise a family and all, and you’re in your 40s, you’re probably not gonna have much interest or time to go hit up bars macking on girls lol

        But that doesn’t change what produces tingles. The core alpha traits are still attractive. I think when you get older and decide to settle, you just have to channel those things into other areas.

        ie – when you were young and single you could go to the bar and flirt with girls and trigger jealousy tingles. But when you’re older and settled down with kids, maybe you just flirt with the waitress when your wife and you are at dinner, or you “do the rounds” at your company office Xmas party and she sees the girls in your office flirting with you.

        Triggers the same tingles, but the latter is a situation that a family man could pull off.

        Another example would be dedication/drive toward your goals. When you were younger you might ignore her texts so you could get work done. When you’re older and settled down with kids, maybe you just make sure you have a private office in the house where you can go to not be disturbed and focus on your shit and she understands not to bother you when you’re in the office. Same tingles triggered, but in a different way.

        Same with, say, leading other men. As a young single dude maybe you led your wolf pack of bros at the bar. But when you’re married and settled maybe you’re the guy who arranges poker nights with your other settled buddies (where she’s not allowed to bother you guys except to bring beers and snacks) or you have a team of men working for you at your job etc. or simply when you go to her office Xmas party, you take the lead and introduce yourself to the men there and befriend and lead them for the night.

        Same tingles triggered, but in a different way that’s more conducive to being settled down and raising kids.

        The problem with most married guys is that they beta themselves by marrying and removing their woman’s fear of loss, but then on TOP of that, they say minimal words to the waitress and don’t dare “get caught” checking her out or making eye contact with her in front of their wife. And they sit quietly in the background at their office parties. And they stop hanging out with their buddies, hoping for Bob up the street to arrange a poker night so they can escape their wife’s loathing resentment for a few hours if they beg permission to go first, and they stop trying to advance their career because they’re scared to rock the boat and their job eats away their soul and they give up their hobbies and have no private office or man-cave because they don’t want to risk hurting their wife’s feelings, they’ve stopped working out and dressing decent because they’ve landed a girl and “don’t have to” take pride in their appearance and their girl fattened them up with dinners etc etc etc

        In the end you end up with just a spineless unattractive beta family man who gets cheated on, divorced, and loses custody of his kids to his wife who’s moved on to more alpha pastures.

        But if he had understood tingles and attraction, he could have acted like the first guy I described, and probably done just fine.

        So I think ya, settling down means you choose to let yourself get beta’ized a bit in exchange for a family… But I also don’t think it’s a death sentence when you understand attraction and understand “I’m not trolling the bars for pussy anymore, and that’s going to make me less attractive to my girl, so I have to figure out how to supplement that jealousy tingle in a different way”. It’s like taking vitamins for things that your diet doesn’t provide lol

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      • As an unmarried, soon-to-be father, that one really hit home.

        Solid outline , thanks bro .

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      • This is exactly right. THe married dudes just have to produce the tingles in a different way. I been married 25 years, but I am chatting up the females all the time. I pull their interest and my wife sees it.

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      • This is generally what I do and all of it works. Basically have self confidence and take charge and be charming and pleasant to be around – mostly. I always talk as if dating other women is well within the realm of possibility etc. I tell her to put on sexy clothes and tell her to change three or four times sometimes. Women are happiest when they love the man they’re with. 90% of that is pushing the right buttons. They need to look up to their man and if they do, will do about anything to please him. One slip up won’t kill it either. That’s just the slip up you noticed.

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      • Get off the line Carlos. I need to chat with Hillary.

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      • @Huma

        Good one. My brother has met them both and says both are tall and ice cold.

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      • Yes, agreed.

        Changed Lifestyle, changed game.

        Though what are these guys to do, who are being led by you? Are they to “fight” for supermacy?

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      • That’s it right there.

        I would also add to the chorus of never rest on your laurels. You’re only as good as your last paycheck or erection. The longer you’ve been together, you have a little (a little) leeway to fuck up something, never as much as you think. Chicks don’t do loyalty the same way guys do and they don’t calculate your value to them the same as you calculate her value to you.

        I don’t know many guys that would divorce their wife if she came home one day and said she was tired or working and wanted to stay home from now on. They might not be super thrilled, but they wouldn’t divorce her.

        Try doing that as a guy, “Hey honey, fuck that job. I’m staying home and you support us.” Lol. She’ll be taking the kids and moving back to her parents house or getting a new man right fast.

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      • Hey yareally, check your yareally email!

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      • Never understood that. I’m married, dominant, and my wife understands perfectly well that there are red lines, which, if crossed, will result in papers filed immediately and me walking out of the house, chips fall where they may.

        Since I married a keeper, the state of the legal system is no more of a problem than me talking about the relative desirability of other womens’ asses. The old-school advice is frequently out of date. “How to spot a keeper,” for those who’d like to be married, otoh, is pretty timeless.

        Step One: feminists and other assorted leftists and their fellow travellers are not keepers.

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      • Aren’t you the short guy who just a few months ago was a newbie PUA wannabe?

        And now you’re commenting as if you get more ass than anyone else on this site.

        Bitch please….

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      • Scray knows his shit. Dude progressed fast as balls in those few months.

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      • things change, ho.

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      • Even people who think Scray has the moral fiber of pondscum can tell that he’s leveled up. So shut up, you asexual troll.

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      • Alaric would have you summarily executed.

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      • how sad to never have been truly loved. then again, less than 10% of men ever truly are.

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      • No man has ever been truly loved by a woman. She uses him for resources and protection and fun while she feels good about it. Period.

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      • wtf are you talking about. I almost never pay for anything with the girls I’m with. The girls I went on Day 2’s with this week bought my shit.


        lol remember when you were talking shit about me and my bro failing in the clubs? Well, here I am and there you are. Maybe you should start going out and bombing in the clubs, too.

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      • spoke like a guy in the middle or at the bottom.

        the bitter will pass, trust me.

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      • Is that why women spend their boyfriend’s money to send me gifts?

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      • scray you are so young if you ever get married (want to have kids one day?) you WILL spend money and get ass raped it is unavoidable.

        I can’t go out every night like you. I have 2 kids and pay their mother $5,000 a month in “child support” and have to work to be able to house and feed them.

        even in an LTR, even you will end up doing something like paying $2,000 for a trip that you both enjoy….but you cannot save up tingles in a bank. she’ll expect that $2,000 trip every year. money does not grow on trees.

        what you will learn if you ever get into an LTR or get married is women award NO credit for past tingles, even if what the man did was AMAZING. it is forgotten.

        men, on the other and, do reward women for past pussy…..that’s why some men stay married to some old hag for 50 years, rewarding her for the 4 or 5 good years of sex she gave him.

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      • what you will learn if you ever get into an LTR or get married is women award NO credit for past tingles, even if what the man did was AMAZING. it is forgotten.

        True in all-too-often cases…

        However, they DO have an elephant’s memory for the times they didn’t like the tone of your voice… to the point where the memory becomes downright Olympian, and remembers things that weren’t even said.

        Sigh.

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      • “what you will learn if you ever get into an LTR or get married is women award NO credit for past tingles, even if what the man did was AMAZING. it is forgotten.”

        This is the important thing men need to learn. You don’t get to let yourself go once you’re in a relationship. You don’t get credit for your past tingles. You have to still actively be a high-value attractive man. Society conditions us to believe that once you “win” the game (getting an LTR) you can relax and let yourself go and you can be the fat guy on King of Queens and your hot wife will still love you etc.

        But the reality is part of what makes a man is his drive to continuously improve himself and his world. If you let that shit go, thinking you can bank on previous tingles, you are in for a rude/expensive awakening.

        In pretty much all cases of the taken women who cheat on their men with me, their men have let themselves go in some category that I fulfill, whether it’s sexual adventure, assholeishness, unpredictability, dominance, etc. I’m offering them a tingle their men stopped providing.

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      • Did you ever tell her to kiss your ass and stop talking to her for a week or two? That you don’t talk to spoiled children? I appreciate where you’re coming from and why you’re pissed. Use it to your advantage. More people here than you think used to strike out hard with women and have learned otherwise. It really is a formula to a large extent and can be learned.

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      • “But the reality is part of what makes a man is his drive to continuously improve himself and his world. If you let that shit go, thinking you can bank on previous tingles, you are in for a rude/expensive awakening.”

        In a pink.

        The advancement itself, like a promotion on a job or some other achievement may be much of a tingle raiser, but it won’t last for too long if you let yourself go. What makes her tingle is your energy that you radiate while struggling to get that promotion. If you radiate that most of the time everyday, that generates tingles, much more and much more consistently than any fact of job promotion ever could. At some point you may not even notice these tingles, but the result of her behavior is there anyway.

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      • “The advancement itself, like a promotion on a job or some other achievement may be much of a tingle raiser, but it won’t last for too long if you let yourself go. What makes her tingle is your energy that you radiate while struggling to get that promotion.”

        Yep. BradP put it best…to paraphrase: “every shitty indie rocker has at least a few groupie girls who want to fuck him that come to every single show. It doesn’t matter that he hasn’t hit it big or if he never will or if his goals are stupid, it’s the fact that he HAS a dream/ambition and a goal that he’s chasing that attracts them.”

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      • who needs love when there is all this perfectly good pussy lying around

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      • Pussy dripping with attraction isn’t free of love.

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      • This is why if I had to choose between love and respect, I would pick respect every time.
        A woman is far less likely to fuck you if she does not respect you than if she doesn’t love you.

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    • This is backwards: “This is because men, unlike women, can easily sever sex from emotional connection.”
      _______

      Lol, no way. Like many women, I could have sex with a different reasonably attractive man every day of the week if I wanted to. I like sex, so why don’t I want to? Yes, values, fear of social judgment… but also because like most normal women, I have extreme difficulty separating sex from emotion and attachment, so this would be a painful, empty way to live.

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    • “including all of his money, property, and the very soul he needs”

      Read Kipling’s poem The Vampyre.

      The fool was stripped to his foolish hide
      (Even as you and I !)
      Which she might have seen when she threw him aside
      (But it isn’t on record the lady tried)
      So some of him lived but the most of him died
      (Even as you and I !)

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  6. “Almost never do they realize that it might be the best thing that ever happened to them.”

    this is probably mostly true but in the opposite way the author means it.

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  7. The sooner marriage doesn’t mean spit and it recognized as such, the better (and it doesn’t mean spit already but most men don’t recognize it).

    What exactly does a man get out of marriage if even the illusion if fidelity is removed?

    If you want to save civilization, men and the children, you’re going to have to completely remove marriage first and start over.

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  8. How do alphas get married or have long term relationships when they know women are cheating whores? Do they stay single for the rest of their lives?

    This must fuck with their heads, even after having fucked hundreds and hundreds of women.

    What is the end-game for the alpha male?

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    • Women don’t cheat on alphas, or more accurately, women don’t cheat on men that they view as alphas. As long as you play FAG, with some DHV sprinkles here and there, I see no reason why a man couldn’t have a devoted life partner.

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      • Alphas also get cheated on too.

        Women’s mating strategy includes variance, so they will have babies from many different alphas, not just one.

        This strategy will improve the likelihood of passing on her genes in case one of the alphas has a trait that will be selected against in the future.

        Having 5 babies with 5 alphas is better than 5 babies with one alpha generally speaking.

        Variance is future proofing.

        And yes bitches are fucked.

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      • “Women’s mating strategy includes variance, ”

        I have heard this a lot. It seems you haven’t given this any fair amount of thought.

        It fails to take into account their rapidly decreasing SMV and the options that they have.

        Having one kid with one Alpha basically renders them invisible to other Alphas looking for wives or looking to have kids. So if she is to cheat, she can cheat with another equally attractive man who also has a a slighter edge since he is the mysterious new guy, but then will have to look for a Beta provider since it’s a sure shot murder of the first relationship she has… or she can fuck other guys and become a single Mom.

        Sound appealing compared to being with one Alpha loyally?

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      • Having one kid with one Alpha basically renders them invisible to other Alphas looking for wives or looking to have kids.

        Other alphas will want to fuck her regardless, she can be married to an alpha and have babies with other alphas.

        It’s risky and can permanently end her chances of alpha commitment, but women still do it and more importantly it’s still a hard-wired sexual strategy.

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      • Alpha is not inconsistent with stupid. Why fuck another man’s wife, get your own damn wife, there are billions of women in the world.

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      • I’m no evolutionary scientist, but it seems like a woman’s high investment in child-bearing actually implies that less variance is better.

        And I have yet to see a woman who views a man as a legit, higher value alpha, cheat on him. Maybe you have?

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      • It is rare, but it does happen actually. I have a buddy that had this happen to him. The -main- issue though, was painted in fucking technicolor from jump street which was she was bat shit crazy as many a hottie is. We told the guy, don’t marry that broad… but he was full steam ahead. So this usually ends up as a case of common sense. The red flags are generally there far before a serious LTR develops. If you are alpha but purposefully being ignorant (which is actually pretty beta behavior in that regard) then that shit is on you.

        That is the only case of this I have personal experience with. I imagine there may be some other rare scenarios were this applies but probably the exception not the rule.

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      • I suppose this is the trouble with casting out a discussion’s terms in ‘never’ because it’s not like you ever, ever win. I’ll just dial it back and say that….it’s the exception rather than the rule.

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      • Half of batshit crazy is attention seeking. If you call them on it, it often goes away. If you indulge it, it gets worse.

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      • Bruce Jenner’s wife is quoted in a recent supermarket tabloid as calling her husband a loser and wants to leave him, is cheating on him, some shit like that.

        Jenner, to remind you, is the former Olympic declathlon champion, “the greatest athlete in the world”, about as alpha as one can imagine. He gets a bit old, the muscles sag, it becomes evident that he’s human too, and she calls him a loser.

        No man is safe from this if Bruce jenner isn’t. Maybe one needs to choose a better woman or get luckier.

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      • Why is he as alpha as you can imagine? You are thinking like a MAN. Men look at a resume and think OH LOGICALLY HE MUST BE AN ALPHA. For kicks, go tell a 20 year old at the bar that you are an Olympic Champion — chances are, if she hasn’t heard of you, she will not give a shit.

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      • Scray, I am old and remember when he won the decathlon in the Olympics. He was thought of as a demigod. Millions of females at the time would have dripped for him. Ge was alpha.

        Now he’s an old man and his alphaness is in doubt. I think this is exactly my point. As someone said above, you can’t bank vag tingles, a vag is fairly memoryless.

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      • No man is safe from this if Bruce jenner isn’t.
        ————————————————————

        Tina called Ike a lot of things.

        Loser was not one of them because she knows without him, she would still be Anna Mae Bullock;

        bus driver

        waitress, or surly negro postal clerk.

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      • His taste in women is atrocious. What was he thinking? The Kardashian mom is fugly and all of the daughters are too except for Kim, who is waaaayyyy overrated. Moreover, the senior Kardashian bitch had 3, count ’em, three kids from another man already. Major face palm there.

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      • Jenner should call the reality TV crew and, if not wring the old bats neck on camera, have a very special episode where he sends away the brood on a like totally awesome vacay, cleans out the accounts, torches the house, and drives off.

        Bruce, call me. The producers will love it.

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      • And I have yet to see a woman who views a man as a legit, higher value alpha, cheat on him. Maybe you have?
        —————————————————————————————–

        I haven’t either

        (I don’t count showbiz relationships)

        getting and keeping and alpha is a real roll of the dice for a woman, she may have been pumped and dumped by a few before she finds one “she can keep”. In other words, if you got a Ferrari, why take a chance losing it only for a chance at driving a Lambo?

        just a chance?

        You fuck around and end up back in that Corolla.

        You shouldn’t be thinking about your woman cheating, even with a “super alpha”.

        I can’t explain why but Ive seen it why.

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      • Alphas also get cheated on too.

        Nooope.

        Women’s mating strategy includes variance, so they will have babies from many different alphas, not just one.

        See what you’ve done, CH, with all your churchy Darwinist mythologizing? Everyone can play that stupid game. “Such and such is rock solid scientific fact because evolution and stuff.”

        Having 5 babies with 5 alphas is better than 5 babies with one alpha generally speaking.

        No woman but the dingiest hood rat thinks this way. Do you live in the ghetto? Do you happen to know any white women?

        If a woman utterly defiles herself like that, she is ruining herself for all alphas, who do not have to settle for used up spunk-traps. If you are cuckolded you have not instilled sufficient dread by definition. Dread is created effortlessly by top-tier men as part of their aura. Just like Barbara Palvin doesn’t have to worry about being cheated on: why would anyone risk the relationship (unless her boyfriend had similarly infinite options, i.e., was alpha? You have the classic mind-set of scarcity.

        Matt

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      • Actually, Johnny Carson’s wife Joanne cheated on him with Frank Gifford. I don’t think you could classify him as beta, since he had a constant stream of pussie during his career (married or not.)

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      • http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/johnny-carsons-rage-and-tears-over-frank-gifford/

        Gun Game = Ultimate Dread Game

        I am not saying that it doesn’t happen. Women get inebriated and fuck up.

        I am saying it only happens once. And it only happens once to lazy alphas who haven’t already laid the groundwork of dread in response to her first attention-seeking shit-tests involving other men.

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      • Heh, heh… the world of those-no-longer-around-to-gainsay, according to this week’s man behind the curtain, one Henry Bushkin… ’nuff said.

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      • Actually this was common all throughout Hollywood from early times to now. Ava Gardner a prime example (and she never lacked a new alpha to take the old alphas place even when it was cappa di tutti alpha Sinatra).

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      • It’s true it’ll only happen once — if she get’s caught. But women are the best at having affairs and not getting caught. Also what is more enticing to an alpha male than to slam the pussie of another alpha’s wife. It’s like the ultimate ego boost. Banging a married woman is like sexual crack cocaine. King of the hill. You’re the alpha gorilla beating his chest. Yeah, alpha wives are prime targets of other alphas.

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      • But when it happens, they don’t fret over it and just dump the bitch.

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    • “What is the end-game for the alpha male?”

      Death. Death comes to all. From dust you were made and to dust you shall return.

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    • Women aren’t cheating whores, they’re driven by hypergamy.

      Marriage is very easy for a man who can choose well and can set proper boundaries, and at the same time continue working on and investing in his own life way more than he invests in his wife/family.

      Swift punishments for bad behaviour and intermittent reinforcement of good behaviour is often enough.

      But if you remember to continue maximising your own SMV potential by continuously flirting with young girls, looking your best, and earning fame and money in your career, then there is no reason why a woman has to cheat.

      Of course, if she cheats, her loss anyway. It just gives me an excuse to throw her old ass out, and bring in another one of those 20 year olds.

      My own end game is to make sufficient money first while I continue fucking sluts, then enter a polygamous arrangement with 5-7 women chosen through rigorous auditioning, and have 20 kids.

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      • But if you remember to continue maximising your own SMV potential by continuously flirting with young girls, looking your best, and earning fame and money in your career, then there is no reason why a woman has to cheat.

        What is it in young hot women that makes them think they’re on the same fucking level as an accomplished, well respected, rich, famous man?

        Pussy?

        God, women are such fucking losers.

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      • Young, nubile bodies. Pink pussies that haven’t yet been turned into cum dumpsters. That does it for me.

        Cute ignorance and shyness are personal turn-ons too.

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      • Actually bodies and face are the two most important things a woman ever brings to the table.

        Of course the binary multiplier is her sexual willingness, which is proportional to her perception of your manliness.

        Loyalty, cuteness etc. do matter too. But not nearly as much as sexy bodies and cute faces do.

        For some men money matters. For others like me, it doesn’t matter at all.

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      • Re: Loyalty.

        There is no perfect woman, or “good girl”.

        Just the right combination of circumstances and restrictions upon her sexuality by her father.

        Most women can be trained. It’s easier to train women than it is to train a dog, as far as I am concerned. Loyalty can be taught.

        Cuteness, or bubbliness, while dangerously deceptive, are still attractive to me.

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      • Their “pink nubile pussies” were given to them, they didn’t earn it with hard work or dedication. This makes them loooooooosers of the highest order, more so than any beta or omega in the world.

        I’m starting to internalize this, and it’s letting me take the pussy off the pedestal.

        fuck hos i’m better than them

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      • Men might be better than women at some things.

        Call it pedestalization if you will, but I am not here for you dude. I am mostly here for the women. They are necessary.

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      • lol did you earn your ‘iq?’ I guess possessing a good amount of the great-life-outcome-correlated brainjuice must make you a loooooooser of the highest order.

        Don’t become bitter, it’ll just impede your progress. A lot of people on this board are bitter. Contempt is its own form of pedestalization, brah — it reveals skyhigh, or at the very least unmet, expectations.. Just view women as people, the same as you or me. In some areas, ya they’re kind of like puppies. Weak spots. Men have their own weak spots, too. Everyone’s just a person trying to get by.

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      • Take your MRA bitterness elsewhere. You are putrefying the place.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        I don’t think Patrice is an MRA. I think Patrice is a woman caricaturing MRAs. (I’m picturing a doughily built, heavily tattooed Trustafarian chick with a cupboard full of quinoa and a headfull of dreadlocks.) If I were going to troll this joint as an MRA, just really doing everything in my power to discredit men who are seeking out this type of advice, my posts would sound just like Patrice’s.

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      • lol go look at them and the power they wield. It’s on par with the power wielded by accomplished, well respected, rich, famous, men.

        But you’re kind of getting caught up in external shit. What’s most important and most attractive (that’s under your control) is your frame/reality (confidence).

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      • Exactly. If you don’t believe in yourself, why should anyone else believe in you?

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      • Supply and demand baby.

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      • This: young hot women

        It has great economic value. It is a commodity that is bargained for, traded, and fought over. But it has a very limited shelf life in any one example of the model.

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      • then enter a polygamous arrangement with 5-7 women chosen through rigorous auditioning, and have 20 kids.

        Delusions of Grandeur Game?? You better have paper stacked to the ceiling in every room of your house(s) and coming out your windows to even remotely entertain such fantasy.

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      • When the collapse comes, you will have more than seven, begging you to take them in.

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      • A Ferrari might be your fantasy. It’s inevitability for me.

        So is this.

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    • it does, at least for me. there are trustworthy women out there, but the vast majority give me serious mental strain. my plan is to be single until i want kids (later) and deal with the issue when it arises then. at least i’ll get kids in trade for the likely disastrous other factors.

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    • Judging by Hollywood, music, and sports stars, women do indeed cheat on alphas.

      Sure, one can pooh-pooh that the cuckold in question was doubtfully a true alpha… according to the given definer’s mental legerdemain.

      But when guys like Frank Sinatra, Tom Cruise, Hulk Hogan, etc., etc., etc. can’t hold onto wives, well…

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      • The problem here is that you’re defining alpha as ‘to the outside world.’ What matters is how the woman in question views the man. Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner is a great example. She was constantly testing him, he was going through a really ‘low value’ time in his life = her having one foot out the door.

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      • “The problem here is that you’re defining alpha as ‘to the outside world.’ What matters is how the woman in question views the man.”

        This.

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      • I can’t believe you take pride in your retarded protege Scray. Its sort of cute and reminds me of Puffy (you) and Mase (your said retard)

        He uses words like brah and muh and dik. He is either a retard, dreg, or wanna be gangster or an unholy trifecta cocktail of the 3.

        Seriously if that retard somehow spawns because of game its your fault.

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      • ok ‘manfortheages’ lmfao.

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      • brah get off muh dik.

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      • Envious troll is envious.

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      • As I said:

        Sure, one can pooh-pooh that the cuckold in question was doubtfully a true alpha… according to the given definer’s mental legerdemain.

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      • Okay well you failed to specify whether you meant like….an ‘objective societal alpha’ or just, ‘to the woman.’ However, if you think ‘alpha’ is that slippery, then how can you even assert that ‘alphas’ get cheated on?

        You’ve been real slippery lately, Greg. I expect better. Not much better. But better.

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      • Your half-baked expectations (along with your half-witted neener-neenerisms) are not my motivators.

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      • you can polish the turd of your unorginal allusionary thought processes all you want…u kno that i destroy u. ps muh dik.

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      • Don’t hurt your shoulder, patting yourself on the back like that. Where I come from, it’s customary to declare victory only AFTER it’s actually been achieved.

        Something you darkies never learned… one’s horn sounds loudest and carries furthest when blown by others… so stop blowing yourself, Sambo.

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      • lol this dude always talkin’ about muh dik. is where u come from the gay bar?

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      • Fame works better than game over the short term. But over the long term, game wins out. Fame gets old. Game doesn’t.

        As far as Tom Cruise is concerned, he’d simply done what he said he wouldn’t. He was probably fucking around way too constantly on Nicole Kidman, and later on Katie Holmes even though he simply promised them exclusivity.

        But more importantly, both those women have legions of men at their beck and call.

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      • But more importantly, both those women have legions of men at their beck and call.

        I think THIS is the true gist of it all…

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 4:27 pm Lucky White Male

        Tom Cruise is gay, as in homosexual

        Nicole Kidman has “legions of men at her beck and call’?

        Katie Holmes?

        Where are you getting this from, Vanity Fair?

        Both are way over the SMV hill

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      • More precisely, Holmes and Kidman have legions of “invisible” men at their beck and call. That is to say, men they would have to trade down for. Each step up the social ladder renders more and more men on low ladders invisible to women. They’ll become cat ladies before they’d settle for less than they had previously achieved (i.e. alpha widows.)

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      • I still think Nicole is hot and always have. I liked her character a lot in Cold Mountain too.

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      • Yeah I can understand , Nicole Kidman is good looking, but I always felt like her face says ; ” I am bitch, don’t ever get me angry! or you will wish you were never born!”

        I have the same feeling when I look at Angelina Jolie…she is hot BUT…that one must have the worse temper, she must be a bitch on steroids when angry…

        I prefer “good girl next door” women that seem kind and gentle with a touch of geekiness/nerdiness, if she wears glasses, even better.

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      • She played a warm character in Cold Mountain. The type of woman you would take a bullet for because she was also that strong and trustworthy. I know what you mean though. I’m not sure I could live with her or even want to. These film stars are abstractions and in many ways our new pantheon of pagan gods and goddesses.

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      • Women are never satisfied, it is in their nature.

        They get bored easily,
        if you do more for her, she gets bored of that too eventually ( even if it is fur coats, diamonds and trips to Hawaii) and demands more…there is no end to this,

        they always need something new , some new thrill, be it new furniture for the living room or new shoes

        it is how nature made women

        They are never satisfied, it is in their nature

        and why they eventually cheat.

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      • Canadian Friend

        Women are never satisfied, it is in their nature.

        They get bored easily,
        ————————————————————————————-

        Thats what guitars, motorcycles and guns are for. If I see one more Craigslist ad where a guy is claiming he gotta sell one of these things because of “the wife”, “my ol lady”… Im gonna puke.

        (((shakin my head)))

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 5:11 am The Burninator

        Very true. Which is why you should never build up expectations and lavish her with gifts and luxuries. Those are great the first time, but then become immediate new “normals” from thereon out with a rather open expectation that you must meet and surpass your previous gifts the next time around. No winning that game.

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    • there is this cute little fantasy rolling around that if you are ‘alpha enough’ you can slay the beast known as the female psyche and you win the game

      this is the inverse of the white knight/man up paradigm, that if you’re a good enough manboob she’ll come around

      both are cries for primacy & power in a (r-selected) situation where it is a logical fallacy to assume there is a means to come out ahead when the reality is such that women can depend on big daddy govt empower her through terms of welfare/divorce cash & prizes

      at best, you can be a walking fuckstick for her amusement (alpha). at worst, you can be the host for the parasite to gain strength to enable it to gain strength to try to infect fucksticks (beta).

      it will take collapse and return to our K-select natures for the fish to truly need the bicycle on a long-term basis

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      • Comment of the month. Well done.

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      • You don’t go out. Being alpha isn’t just about being a fuckstick for her amusement. This is what happens when geeks read a bunch of shit and fail to separate truth from art with reality.

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      • nigga plz, nice presumption skillz bruh

        too close to home, u mad bro??/
        sry to aware u that ur self-aggrandization is fucking LOL in reality

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      • uh…nice internet memes? have fun with your armchair dry-dicked political philosophy tho.

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      • the toughest guy on CH interwebz forum, we have finally found him

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      • lol ummm…that meme doesn’t make sense in this context because i never threatened you, sperglord. way to fly your i-read-lots-of-shit-but-have-no-clue-how-to-apply-it-in-reality flag high.

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      • don’t you have a field report to over analyze such that someone might pay you the attention you so desperately crave?

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      • o that’s a tiny bit better. im glad to see ur capable of forming a coherent non-meme thought 🙂

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      • “it will take collapse and return to our K-select natures for the fish to truly need the bicycle on a long-term basis”

        lol what kind of conspiracy theory bullshit are you slinging bro. What, you finished “The Selfish Gene” last night and ran up to your parents computer lab to type this.

        How many sets have you opened in the past year?

        /thread

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      • if you honestly keep tabs on the number of sets you’ve opened, step back from the game

        i get the hate but at least come @ me w/ sensible metrics to swing dick w/ bro

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      • It is not difficult for a man to loom larger than a distant “big daddy government” in an impressionable girl’s puny imagination. It requires only the most rudimentary of a man’s skills.

        “You can slay the beast known as the female psyche and you win the game” is not a “cute little fantasy.” It’s the foundation for every successful relationship with a woman.

        I am forced to conclude that you grossly exaggerate the power of “the female psyche” for some reason beyond logic. I suppose it would seem like an indefatigable force of nature if you are constantly beaten down by it. I am not in holy awe of it, nor would I guess is most of the readership here, and the whole point of this site is to announce to the world that there is no “beast” to be afraid of under the bed.

        Matt

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      • it was more of a literary device (little fantasy…slay the beast) to reflect that game is not a panacea or holy grail to the quandary (under present environmental norms) presented by Patrice:

        “How do alphas get married or have long term relationships when they know women are cheating whores? Do they stay single for the rest of their lives?”

        wasn’t about a bogeyman as much as the reality of “the game don’t stop cuz she doesn’t need you to eat anymore”

        nonethless, will avoid wordplay in future as not to seem butthext & substitute “fuckstick” for “gentleman caller” to not rustle jimmiez

        +1 for present logic-based response, you’re not suh bad after all

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      • on November 15, 2013 at 5:30 am haunted trilobite

        This is just the red pill advice I needed. All my gaming is going to take place in the supermarket from now on, and the first chick I see select special K from the cereal options is getting married.

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  9. I think Conan the Barbarian said it best when asked what is best in life:

    “To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.”

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  10. on November 12, 2013 at 12:57 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

    “Goodbye America” summed up in a single picture:

    Go ahead, read all the ads. Don’t miss this one.

    [CH: i still don’t know if that “ad campaign” is a put-on. anyone know the background deets?]

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    • it is real, it’s part of the colorado healthcare exchange. advertising can be pretty creative when there’s only one choice to choose from. the oregon one has a bigfoot arm and a ‘long live oregonians’ banner. no enrollees, but a lot of billboards.

      the birth control one is up above. insane

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      • The message seems to be: act like a total imbecile cuz Obamacare’s got yer back, yo! With a $6,000-deductible plan, which for most people is like not having insurance at all, and yet you have to pay $200/month to have this fake insurance. Neat! And, fail, QED: Cover Oregon has signed up tens of thousands of new medical care moochers for Medicaid, but not a single paying customer. Neat! And, fail!

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    • Those can’t possibly be real ads?!

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    • I like how the one pink ball is significantly more indented than the other one.

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      • At first I thought it was a before/after picture of the same girl, once the State has empowered her with, among other things, insurance.

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      • Lolz! The message of those photos is: get sooperdrunk and then exercise around moving machinery and heavy weights whilst perched upon unstable rubber balls cuz 0bama’s got yer back, yo! How about showing a brosurance customer shotgunning 24 ounces of Steel Reserve while driving down a busy city street? Yeah, that’s why God invented brosurance, yo!

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    • http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/11/12/obamacare-ad-hope-hes-as-easy-to-get-as-birth-control

      fucking LOL.

      how do we get young men and women to subsidize the prolonged deaths of people who should sack up and take the “old yeller’ insurance policy?

      appeal to kegstands and sluttery respectively, of course!

      white people done fucked up across the board

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  11. Just one step closer to the end of marriage entirely.

    As it should be. The only way to restore order and end this corruption is to end legal marriage.

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    • I sometimes think God is letting the world go to hell just so it’ll become clear how crappy equalism and leftoidism really is… that it’s not gonna be just some big stupid party.

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      • God’s letting the challenge of Satan and Man (“we don’t need YOU, we can figure things out for ourselves”, i.e., know Good and Evil and be “like unto God”) come to fruition.

        After six thousand years, give or take, no one will be able to claim that Mankind didn’t get a fair chance to prove itself capable of self-governance.

        And thereafter the Judgment, immediate slap-down of any further rebellion will be both just and warranted.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 3:43 pm Hugh G. Rection

        Why not just have a big flood, round up the millions of animals and one guy and gal and be done with it?

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      • That was only to take care of the giants in the earth… the spawn of “the fair daughters of men” and the rebellious third of heaven that was cast out.

        You guys gotta study your Bibles more, if you would speculate. 😉

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      • Dude… demons are spirits. They can’t procreate with humans. The “sons of God” were obviously the just men, and the “daughters of men” were provocatively-dressed whores.

        Yet another Game lesson.

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      • There were still giants around afterwards, so I don’t think that was it. Rephraim, King Og, Goliath, teh scary peeplez in Canaan, etc.

        God looked upon the earth and saw that it was full of wickedness and badness, is how it goes I believe, and went ‘Wow. You guys suck.’ (Except for Noah. He was cool.) Next time, He’s doing it with fire. Armageddon is always better with fire.

        But I agree, we are essentially in the throes of solving a debate between God and Satan. Atheists are super-excited to have come up with challenges against God only a few thousand years old.

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      • And yet our depravity pales compared to that found in Ancient Rome.

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      • Greg does mans atheism come from anger or ego? What is the root of rebellion towards God?

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 7:43 am Hugh G. Rection

        Dude is not afraid of a bit of collateral damage.

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      • Dude… demons are spirits. They can’t procreate with humans. The “sons of God” were obviously the just men, and the “daughters of men” were provocatively-dressed whores.

        Yet another Game lesson.

        Although theories vary (go figure, when it comes to Scripture), the one most accepted has been that the Nephilim were fallen angels who took on human form, for they lusted after the fair daughters of man. An alternative I have heard is that they might also have possessed the bodies of ungodly men.

        This would make sense, within that microcosm of acceptance and/or symbology) that their offspring would produce “giants”, mighty men, fierce and arrogant, who would start bullying and lording it over “regular” human men… so that Might Is Right and violence became the order of the day on earth.

        This would also make sense in why God would have to regret His creation and wipe the slate clean. (Discussions along the lights of “HA! See, He ISN’T perfect! Neener-neener!” will be handled on another day.)

        For the record Goliath, et. al., were NOT Nephilim or descendants thereof.

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      • And yet our depravity pales compared to that found in Ancient Rome.

        Not really sure of that… I’m certain you will find all sorts of sordid goings-on amongst the earth’s current elite that rival the courts of Nero or Caligula.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 10:38 am ProudFeministGirl

        A God don’t make sense at all, that’s why i am Agnostic, anyways, why he being perfect needs us? i don’t see a good reason, he needs our love? well maybe even a perfect being needs love, but he has million of angels and his son Jesus to love him, humans seem to be so tiny and insignificant. A church used to say that god values more our love because we choose him out of free will, but many angels followed Satan and became demons, so angels also have free will.

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      • Greg does mans atheism come from anger or ego? What is the root of rebellion towards God?

        Reams have been and continue to be exhausted on that subject.

        I think the strong evidence is ego… both His angels and Man, His creations, having the gifts of self-awareness and free will, yet misusing them towards self-aggrandizement.

        “Nobody is going to tell ME what to do!” is even to this day looked upon as admirable rugged individualism… despite the 6000+ years of historical misery, destruction, and folly.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 1:02 pm haunted trilobite

        GE: ‘Not really sure of that… I’m certain you will find all sorts of sordid goings-on amongst the earth’s current elite that rival the courts of Nero or Caligula.’

        Yeahhh boyeeee. And the Roman’s didn’t worship science. The Roman plebs didn’t have computers as masters to arrange their sordid extra-marital casual hook-ups. People hadn’t lost the ability to communicate with each other due to brain-washing by blinking screens. People weren’t pussies. People didn’t have guns, and therefore the vanity attached to the knowledge of being able to take another man’s life if he annoys you, with a mere impulse to pull the trigger, didn’t exist. Etc, etc, etc. If anyone doesn’t think that the 7 deadly sins aren’t rampaging around the world today, they’re thrice deluded

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      • Thank you, haunted… you brought salient words to my unvoiced thoughts about people then versus now. Well-done.

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      • A God don’t make sense at all, that’s why i am Agnostic, anyways, why he being perfect needs us? i don’t see a good reason, he needs our love?

        Don’t hurt yourself. Seek an earthly Daddy and you will see the Heavenly Father through him. They are both on the hunt for you, allow yourself to be captured.

        Matt

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      • Greg Eliot

        Greg does mans atheism come from anger or ego? What is the root of rebellion towards God?

        Reams have been and continue to be exhausted on that subject.

        I think the strong evidence is ego… both His angels and Man, His creations, having the gifts of self-awareness and free will, yet misusing them towards self-aggrandizement.
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        Thank you for your response Greg. Ive never witnessed more atheists in one place at the same time than on this blog; I wanted to get a sense of what may be driving it since it seems unnatural to me.

        I went to church every sunday for 18 years but am largely ignorant of how Christianity is supposed to work because I was just doing what I was told in order to stay out of trouble.

        Despite my ignorance, I do see a real hostility against Christianity. So you know what that means? I gotta look into it. Anytime theres a fight, I fear I may be missin out on something good.

        And for those of you who think Christians are weak?

        Be advised, they got game. When they got the language and know the bible front to back, they bringin strong game. I watched that debate at Oxford between Lennox and Dawkins and Dawkins got staggered several times; I thought he was gonna start cursing!

        Lennox was landing bombs and I had never seen Dawkins on his heels like that.

        Im not saying Dawkins lost, but he sure knew he was in a fight that night.

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      • on November 14, 2013 at 4:41 pm haunted trilobite

        I should be thanking you GE, for the chance I was waiting for to climb atop of the moral high horse and rain down fire and brimstone. And that was without even mentioning the snuff movies and what not that go on among the super-elite that you referred to. A lot of our advances are regrettable, but at least instead of looking at boring pastoral scenes from the renaissance, we can now admire prize-winners such as ‘Artist’s Shit’ and ‘My Bed’.

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      • Thwack, it moments like these that almost make me believe there can be a Brotherhood of Man.

        Almost. 😉

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      • Dude is not afraid of a bit of collateral damage.

        Neither is Man, if modern weaponry is considered… hell, even in ancient times, entire cities were sacked and razed to the ground, all men killed, all surviving women taken away into slavery.

        As far as God’s seeming ruthlessness, well… fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom… and in the moments where He has equaled Man’s destructiveness, at least it was His creation, so His rules.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 3:48 pm haunted trilobite

        For anyone who’s at a loss to explain the nature of this life, I recommend reading the books and audio recordings of Mr. Li Hongzhi. They’re available for free download at falundafa.org . I will be glad to answer any questions from my level of understanding of this great cultivation system.

        Proudfeministgirl, having read the aforementioned books, I feel that you’re trying to understand divine beings using human concepts. Gods don’t have human emotions, or need our love. Gods are far more noble than us. Seeing that humans suffer tremendously, Enlightened Beings like Jesus Christ, out of his great compassion and mercy, came to this world to offer people salvation. I’d encourage you to read these books too, to gain your own understanding, as they’re much more profound than I’ll ever be able to comprehend.

        This is a direct quote from Zhuan Falun: “Because nobody is more precious than a cultivator. He wants to cultivate, and that’s the most precious thought. In Buddhism they talk about Buddha-nature, and that when a person’s Buddha-nature comes out the Enlightened Beings can help him. And what do they mean by that? If you ask me, since I’m transmitting a practice on a higher level, it involves truths from high levels, and the issues it touches on are huge. In this universe, human life, as we see it, isn’t generated in the ordinary world. A person’s true life is generated in the space of the universe. The reason being, there are many types of matter in this universe that produce life, and these types of matter can generate life through motion and interaction. What this means is that a person’s earliest life originates in the universe. The space of the universe is inherently good, and its nature is to be True, Good, and Endure, and when a person is born he has the same nature as the universe. But as more beings are created, community-like social relationships form. Some of the beings might grow selfish and gradually lower their levels, so they can’t stay at that level and have to drop. But then at the next level they become not so good again, and again they can’t stay there, so they keep dropping down and down, until at some point they finally drop to this level of human beings.

        The whole human society is at one level. When they drop down this far, these beings were supposed to be destroyed if they are looked at only in terms of abilities, or only from the standpoint of the Great Enlightened Beings. But Great Enlightened Beings take compassion as their starting point, so they gave them another chance and made this special environment and this special dimension. The beings in this dimension are
        different from the beings in all other dimensions in the universe. The beings in this dimension can’t see the beings in other dimensions, and they can’t see how the universe really is, so it’s just like these people have dropped into a realm of delusion. If they want to get healed, get rid of adversity, or eliminate their karma, then they’ve got to cultivate and return to their original, true selves. That’s how all the different cultivation ways see it. A person should return to his original, true self—that’s actually the true purpose of being human. So, once somebody wants to cultivate, they’d say his Buddha-nature has come out. That thought is the most precious, because he wants to return to his original, true self, he wants to break out of this level of ordinary people.

        Maybe you’ve heard the Buddhist saying, “When a person’s Buddha-nature comes out it shakes the Ten-Directional World.” Whoever sees this will help him, and they’ll help him no matter what. Buddhists believe that saving people has no conditions attached, it’s done at whatever cost, and they can help him unconditionally.”

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      • “For the record Goliath, et. al., were NOT Nephilim or descendants thereof.”

        Didn’t say they were. I said they were giants. Obviously dead people can’t have more descendants.

        (Sorry, only comment I could find a reply button.)

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      • The “giants” in question, that had to be destroyed (hence the Flood) were of the Nephilim. Your subsequent comment, that there were still “giants” after the Flood (and your “so I don’t think that was it”), was what I was pointing to as not pertaining to the topic at hand.

        In short, you WERE alluding to the fact that the “giants in the earth” before the Flood were the same “giants” afterwards… which they were not.

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      • “In short, you WERE alluding to the fact that the “giants in the earth” before the Flood were the same “giants” afterwards… which they were not.”

        No, I wasn’t. I can assure you that I do not, nor ever have, believed that dead giants are capable of reproduction or walking around. You’ll just have to accept my word for it.

        God wiped out *everyone* except for Noah, his family, (and the animals) on the basis of righteousness. The angels were punished (at some point) for forsaking their former position. The Nephilim weren’t singled out as being the bad guys.

        If God went total on the planet to get at the giants, one would think that he wouldn’t have let there be any giants afterwards either, and he might have said ‘because of giantness (or angelic cross-breeding) I do regret that I made man’.

        I didn’t say they were the same giants, or descendants of those giants, in fact I specifically distinguished them. ‘Rephraim’ is not ‘Nephilim’.

        Though actually, Genesis 6:4 does say – “The Nephilim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the true God continued to have relations with the daughter of men…”

        So heck, maybe it *is* all the same thing.

        But you can believe as you like. People have lots of pet theories about the Nephilim. My dad thinks the angels are so awesome they made giants by accident. I think they did it on purpose because they wanted their kids to be the biggest dogs. Others apparently believe that angels can’t reproduce with humans because of physical handicap.

        It’s not really that important. Just interesting.

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      • So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall.

        — Isaiah 55:11

        Put women and peter puffers in charge, what do you expect?

        Live as a Sodomite, die with Sodom. Live righteously and we will not be collateral damage. “And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake” (Gen 18:32).

        Matt

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    • People keep saying that but it’s not going to happen. Government cannot get out of the marriage business, and nor should it try, because family is more powerful than government. Governments rise and fall, but family is bred into our species, and it deeply affects matters government has to deal with. So government has to abide family. To think government can ignore family, is another liberal delusion, which the wise man must reject.

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      • Government has made war on the atomic unit of civilization, the family. The government will not survive it. Cannot survive it. There is no civilization without family, there is no government without civilization. It picked a fight it cannot win. Family precedes and transcends all political policy. Sooner or later, the bourgeoisie gets tired of being experimented on by credentialed epicene deviants.

        Where is the next generation of their kind going to come from anyway? University indoctrination? Some moderates think the question is whether conservatives can breed faster than universities can corrupt them, but this is so much nonsense. Not only will the selfish, solipsistic left be outbred, we are going to raze those quarter-million-dollar reeducation camps before we’re done, out of pure vengeance.

        Matt

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      • That’s not true. I know this one guy who grew up on a gay commune and he got a 1600 on his SATs.

        Check your privilege.

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      • And he dies childless and who in society is picking up the slack? Do the math (or have Mr. 1600 do it for you).

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      • “Check your privilege”

        Really? Wow, just wow. I mean, come on, you can say that in this day and age?

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      • I’m thinking his post was tongue-in-check irony… and a marvelous jest, at that.

        If not, well… Darwin wept.

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      • I’d hate to think that our tongues met. My cheek or yours?

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  12. Scray:

    “Women don’t cheat on alphas, or more accurately, women don’t cheat on men that they view as alphas. As long as you play FAG, with some DHV sprinkles here and there, I see no reason why a man couldn’t have a devoted life partner.”

    This is only true if there is no greater alpha or if there is some restraint upon the woman. There is always a bigger alpha somewhere.

    If there is a man she views as greater that she thinks she can trade up on, she will unless some part of her character or a social constraint preventing her.

    The longer the long term relationship, the more she will see the beta in you. This is ok, in a way, as she gets farther past the wall . . . but then she gets farther past the wall.

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    • Yes, there will always be greater alphas, however women aren’t retarded — as much as the comment section on this blog likes to think so.

      A female 6 in looks who manages to LTR a male 8 through game/awesomeness will probably NEVER cheat on him — even if a male 9 comes along for a P and D. When the spread starts becoming too large, women instinctively back off.

      Honestly, would any man here throw away a committed good relationship with an 8, for one night with a 9? You guys can talk all the shit you want, but I already know what the real answer is.

      Last but not least, women do not think like men. A woman can think you are the greatest alpha ever even tho OBJECTIVELY you are not. If you have a strong reality/frame, she will pretty much anchor herself to you. She won’t really give any other guys an actual chance. If you are giving her tingles, she’ll only have eyes for you. It’s when you stop giving her tingles and start losing value that what you’re talking about may happen.

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      • “When the spread starts becoming too large, women instinctively back off.”

        This is true. Anyone who’s gone out one day knows this. Women of no extra ordinary beauty sense danger and back off when they see a very high value man.

        In a long dry spell, I once made a move on a “friend” who’s OK. She acted offended. For years I wondered why, until someone pointed it out to me. She had always had the hots for me. I still order her around to take care of silly business that I find boring, and she happily does it. She complains about how I only call when I need something from her, and that’s once a month, or even less than that. But she’s in a relationship with a dude we’d all happily call a loser. She wouldn’t dare try to tame me.

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      • I would say that sounds like around a 2 point spread, tho. When you get beyond that, I’d say that women start actually being -mean- to you. Like, she wouldn’t do all of that nice shit for you. You’d actually have to anti-game a bit to get her to open up, for srs.

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      • I don’t know.

        See, we were introduced to each other by a common friend, and she was also only slightly better looking than her. This was in college. I wouldn’t have made a pass at either of them had it not been for the dry spell.

        But there was easily a 3 point spread there. Especially since I had a reputation in the college for being “dangerous”.

        Of course she’s not BAD looking, she’s just not GOOD looking. And it’s mostly due to the flab she deliberately has put on.

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      • Yeah. I’ve noticed that too. Based on the female interest I get now, I’ve bumped my male attractiveness to about an 8… I could call myself a lesser alpha now. Hot girls are very open to me, but I have been treated with disdain and even in one case hostility by 5s.

        My biggest hurdle with the hotties now is that I’m not in any of their social circles, which means that I’d have to DHV over all of their many male frat boy acquaintances that they know far better. But, never say never…

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      • “This is only true if there is no greater alpha or if there is some restraint upon the woman. There is always a bigger alpha somewhere.”

        This is true. But this is the solution for it:

        “A woman can think you are the greatest alpha ever even tho OBJECTIVELY you are not. If you have a strong reality/frame, she will pretty much anchor herself to you. She won’t really give any other guys an actual chance. If you are giving her tingles, she’ll only have eyes for you. It’s when you stop giving her tingles and start losing value that what you’re talking about may happen.”

        I’ve always said the one type of woman that’s impossible to seduce is the woman who sees her man as the highest value male around. Those girls won’t even let me get my foot in the door to demonstrate higher value than him. They’ll even apologize like “I’m sorry, I’m flattered really, but no” with a smile as I say hello, like it’s not even a possibility that they would give another guy a chance because they’ve already won the lottery in their mind and don’t have any interest in even entertaining the notion of other men.

        Objectively, her man isn’t the highest value man…there’s always some guy who’s higher value in society’s eyes. But that isn’t relevant because girls don’t run on logic, they run on emotion. If the girl believes that her man is the highest-value man for her, even if Brad Pitt walks into the room she’ll rationalize “sure he may be hot and rich but he’d be a one time thing and MY man will be around long-term and be a good father to our kids…besides I LIKE that my man isn’t a celebrity and doesn’t have to travel and deal with paparazzi and I like his belly it’s soft and cuddly etc.” and legitimately consider her man higher value even tho all of society would disagree with her objectively in the moment.

        How does that guy keep that value? The stuff listed above, about always working on yourself and your goals and all that shit…but also understanding that women ping off you for how to feel. “What you feel, she feels”. So if your internal frame is strong, even to the point of delusion, that you’re higher-value than Brad Pitt, she will believe that too.

        A big part of my game is massive unjustified confidence. In a high-end nightclub I’ll be hanging with a fucking DOCTOR, a guy who’s job is saving LIVES daily, who has an expensive beautiful condo and hits the gym daily etc and he’ll be scared to approach a girl because she’s hot. Or he’ll be talking to a girl and afterward ask me “do you think she likes me?” Like in his mind, despite his obvious massive value, he doesn’t believe he’s high value.

        Meanwhile I don’t have any of that but when the girl talks to me, in my mind I’m higher value than Clooney Pitt and Kanye combined, and to me the girl is lucky that she gets even a few minutes of my attention and that’s the confident vibe I give off, like she’s just won the jackpot even tho it’s not objectively based on anything.

        So she talks to both of us, and which of us do you think gets the attraction?

        Now if my doctor buddy stepped up and fully embraced his value, he would probably get the girl instead of me. But it’s SO fucking rare for a high value guy to fully believe he’s high value that it practically never happens. Even when it DOES happen, if I can chat with the dude and win him over and he sees me as a peer or higher-value, then the attraction is back to me…and this isn’t as hard to do as it might sound. Most high-value guys are nice dudes, not snobby dick-heads, and are happy to meet and befriend other high-value guys.

        The super alpha male badass who’s accomplished in all areas of life AND fully believes in his own worth IN all areas of life, is such a mythological creature that it’s not worth worrying about anymore than it’s worth worrying about a dragon taking your girl lol

        To bring this all back to the girl who won’t cheat, even if I believe I’m higher-value than her man, or even if all of society believes that, it doesn’t matter, because SHE believes he’s higher-value and she’ll rationalize away his faults and my assets, and will cut me off before I can even demonstrate value. She’s basically mentally on lockdown with her man…because all that matters is how SHE feels.

        Hypergamy is a perfectly logical and consistent concept…it just seems confusing and cold-hearted when you don’t understand it or when it burns you. When you understand it and embrace it instead of fighting it, you can make it work in your favor. I don’t need to BE higher-value than the other guys in the room…I just need her to feel like I am.

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      • If the girl believes that her man is the highest-value man for her, even if Brad Pitt walks into the room she’ll rationalize<<<

        I'm sure she could be convincied otherwise. This is an exaggeration. I've been with women like this when I have DHVed through the room in a particular social context. I've seen this time and time again when a girl walks into one of the main bars I hang out in where I know everybody and can DHV through the roof. She's still game if you make her forget her prince charming and make him look like the "nicer/needier" one in the moment.

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      • I’m sure she could be convincied otherwise. This is an exaggeration. I’ve been with women like this when I have DHVed through the room in a particular social context.

        Some women are satisfied with their boyfriend or husband, and some are open to trading up (or cheating) because they’re settling for him. It depends upon the woman and the relationship she’s in. Part of the whole point of Game (at least for tradcons) is to make dern sure that if you get involved with a woman, she’s in the former category.

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      • But the more you invest and put a life together and raise kids and drop 2K on vacations, the more screwed you are and dumb you look when she leaves you or gets caught cheating or just starts to just as a wife in general (popular with tradcon fems). Relationships are an investment toward something, something that is not likely to exist in today’s America.

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      • “She’s still game if you make her forget her prince charming and make him look like the “nicer/needier” one in the moment.”

        This is what I’m saying.

        The catch is that you’re gaming bar chicks in a bar, where having bar-related value is high-value. Bring in a guy who doesn’t care for bars and doesn’t have as much value in one, and combine that with a girl who sees bar-related-value as high-value, and Hypergamy triggers.

        But take a girl who looks down on people in bars and who attributes low-value to anyone who’s in a bar regularly, and your value is gone to her and her non-bar-going man is higher-value to her.

        But that 2nd girl isn’t going to be IN a bar in the first place lol

        Extrapolate this concept to other areas…a legit gold-digger with a rich guy won’t have Hypergamy triggered by a poor guy because her value system is based around money so even if the other guy is attractive in general, she won’t let him get a foot in the door because he’s poor and her man is rich.

        Keep in mind that these are extreme cases. Most men are average and most women see the same things as high-value (dominance, leadership, sexuality, social proof, etc) so your bar-related attributes are high-value to most women. I’m just using the extremes for the sake of providing examples of the concept.

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      • The catch is that you’re gaming bar chicks in a bar, where having bar-related value is high-value.

        Are we now prepared to acknowledge the entire constellation of “high value” that is not “bar-related”?

        That “girl [who] isn’t going to be IN a bar in the first place lol” — how do we game her? What kind of value do we have to achieve to attract her?

        Because a lot of guys are into those kinds of women. You know, the ones who aren’t set on the lowest difficulty level, the ones who tend not to be drunk in public, the ones with real defenses against smarmy coolguy game, the ones who don’t present themselves with their cunt already half-hanging out for the first taker with half-a-sack.

        Does the magic apply to them too? Because I think shy Margie in Accounting has a rockin bod under those frumpy clothes if I could somehow just get her hair down.

        Matt

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      • @Matt

        “That “girl [who] isn’t going to be IN a bar in the first place lol” — how do we game her?”

        Day-game, dipshit. You know, the thing PUAs have been promoting forever where you pick up girls outside of the bar.

        Seriously Matt, like read the most basic game 101 somewhere. I’m embarrassed for you every time I have to explain the newbie basics to you.

        “What kind of value do we have to achieve to attract her?”

        Same values. Thus the part where I said “most women see the same things as high-value (dominance, leadership, sexuality, social proof, etc) so your bar-related attributes are high-value to most women.”

        Is it just hard to see the screen with your head up your own ass, or do you get a boner off being willfully ignorant?

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      • I see. You’ve already covered the 99% of the world outside the bar under the broad rubric of “day-game.” It’s comforting to know that pick-up investigators are on the case, but it doesn’t really tell us how much of that very different world you have mastered.

        In fact, I’d posit it is such a different world that your extrapolation of bar-tricks to areas where they don’t particularly apply (by appending “day” to “game”) is essentially evasive and/or fabricated. Like sticking a sprig of parsley on a steak and calling it salad.

        You don’t invent a concept by inventing a word. I am not talking about cold approaches on the quad or bumping into a girl on the street. I am talking about every area of life in which the women aren’t already inebriated and advertising their availability.

        In other words, I am talking about the untenablity of your claims to reduce every intersexual interaction to the principles of bar game. Your core teaching doesn’t need just a few tweaks to be applicable to the broad spectrum of women who are not already prepackaged DTF. It needs a complete overhaul.

        The next step on your journey is to grasp that when women haven’t already come half-way or more toward your mutual goal of sex, your paper-thin “value” disguise is a temporary solution if not a complete non-starter. You have to demonstrate real value in the “day,” and to demonstrate it you have to first achieve it.

        You are already squandering this late burst of promise. I’m not asking you to renounce your hard-won skill set. I am telling you to acknowledge its limited applicability so that you might modify it into something useful for men in general, for all men, and not just the omegas striving to fit your factory mold of sixty approaches a day, pub crawling every night, push for the fuck ASAP, ghost at her first deviation from the script.

        You know? Start shaping your philosophy around the existing needs of existing men, rather than demanding they transform themselves into YaReally clones before any of your advice will work.

        What do you have for me? Besides “become me and everything will work itself out”?

        Matt

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      • “it doesn’t really tell us how much of that very different world you have mastered.”

        1) Go out and try it yourself, you’ll find out it’s not that hard.

        2) There’s plenty of in-field footage online.

        3) There are fucktons of PUA material written about day-game. There are entire bootcamps dedicated specifically just to day-game. There are PUAs who specifically ONLY do day-game, and have since the community started.

        4) The fact that you think day-game is somehow magical and different just shows that you don’t go out and do it.

        “In fact, I’d posit it is such a different world that your extrapolation of bar-tricks to areas where they don’t particularly apply (by appending “day” to “game”) is essentially evasive and/or fabricated.”

        Yes, you WOULD think that. Because you are mentally masturbating from your keyboard jockey chair. The only real difference between day and night game is that the sun is out. What do you think happens? “ohhh nooo the sun is out, I’m no longer attracted to men who are dominant!!!” lol The other key difference is internal, in that guys have a lot more baggage with day-game in terms of not being able to build up social momentum the way you can in a night-club because there are less people around, and a lot more insecurities come into play (like worrying that people will overhear you gaming the girl or getting shot down, worrying that you’ll get in trouble for harrassment because the environment isn’t as sexual as a nightclub, etc.)

        “I am not talking about cold approaches on the quad or bumping into a girl on the street. I am talking about every area of life in which the women aren’t already inebriated and advertising their availability.”

        No shit. Do you think Janice, the secretary at the office who’s married to some beta, doesn’t want to fuck her dominant boss who leads meetings and has every other secretary wanting to fuck him as he drops a little flirty innuendo here and there?

        Again, you’re just flaunting your inexperience.

        “What do you have for me?”

        Same advice I’ve always had for you. Go out and socialize. The same advice you always reject because you’re happier mentally masturbating.

        The fact that you don’t go out is specifically the reason why you don’t understand that yes, I CAN pull the “you don’t go out” rank card on you in these discussions and it carries weight. The guys who go out aren’t fooled by your flowery nonsense because a few weeks/months/years in the field makes it clear who’s jockeying from their keyboard.

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      • Well put as far as she won’t be there in the first place. Applies to everything. If she’s anywhere near you, you probably have a shot at her.

        Two 9s came in last night, my new friend not from this area is a very high value male who is having trouble. I told him I’m going to make you get her number. Gamed the girls, told one she looked like a chipmunk with big front teeth (most perfect teeth ever, btw) the other chimed in she was a rabbit.

        The “rabbit” has a boyfriend who played in the matrix they are both very high value with big shot boyfriends. Guess what, we got their contact information, they took pictures of us and all that. It’s on. They of course have to find a way to cheat on their borefriends withouth being found out, but that won’t be too hard.

        My friend wanted to stop when he found out they had boyfriends, but I told him to get the number anyway and now look at us.

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      • “What do you have for me?”

        Same advice I’ve always had for you. Go out and socialize. The same advice you always reject because you’re happier mentally masturbating.

        Exactly. All you have for me is the same vapid garbage you’ve been repeating to omega dolts since day one. Straw-men, fantasy fabrications about who I am and what I do, zero corroborating evidence, and 8th-grade putdowns. That’s your best advice, guru? I laugh at your attempt to apply your severely narrow, contextual experience to broader circumstances, and all you have for me is “you don’t go out.” That’s a deficiency of your imagination, not anything that can help anyone.

        Like I said, you do not have the minimal teaching skills of being able to provide helpful advice to (much less imagine the possibility of the existence of) anyone who doesn’t first transform himself into you. In fact, you can barely speak with skeptics without losing your shit like an unprepared woman getting called out on her presumption.

        You are not a thinker, you are a regurgitator. And a voluminous one at that. It is no wonder you are baffled when someone requires you to do a little thinking. You know, “thinking,” that thing you dismiss as “mental masturbation.” Just like Bacon pleasured himself into the idea of the scientific method or Einstein ejaculated the general theory of relativity.

        This is no contest — you and me. But you don’t have the first idea how to take advantage of being schooled. You just store up the butt-hurt, retreat to the fantasy of but, but, but, it’s online and in real life I’d I’d I’d like so kick your ass!!!, and vomit the same inert nonsense that didn’t work the first hundred times.

        You claim to be an instructor on how to AMOG? You couldn’t AMOG a tuna sandwich. Unless, of course, you catch your opponent redhanded, masturbating on a keyboard just as you exactly predicted. You are useless in all other circumstances that contain a single unexpected variable.

        Hence you imagine all of your enemies the same way, like high-school nerds pretend that, deep down, the QB who bullies them is actually a loser like they are. Hence everyone else doesn’t and can’t exist in your fine-tuned, pre-scripted world of cookie-cutter archetypes and just-so formulas.

        Matt

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      • The super alpha male badass who’s accomplished in all areas of life AND fully believes in his own worth IN all areas of life, is such a mythological creature that it’s not worth worrying about anymore than it’s worth worrying about a dragon taking your girl lol<<<

        So true true true. Most CH's discussions are built around the Contextual Alpha Male who is king on his home turf. And a lot of what is spoken of here is mostly a following after the super alpha behaviors in the same way a lot of "fighting" is just bully bullshit/intimidation. It's more of an emotional feeling you give out or a signal you give out that is just as authentic (in the mind of the girl) to what a signal given out by and uber poop alpha would give out.

        And to tell you the truth, most of my personal associates I show this site to tell me pretty much that they are amused by it all, but that they don't need it. This site is just a chronicling for those not in the know of behaviors that naturally occur to socially dominantly elite.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 10:09 pm Life at Calhoun's Lake

        That last paragraph is quite accurate. I’m glued to this site for CH’s evidcerating political anecdotes; the game pieces are just for the chuckles. You know the saying, “it’s funny cause its true.”

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      • I started reading because he was more than just a PUA who tried to smooth things over by such nonsense as “leaving the women better than you found them” and “you need to be a good guy to get a good girl” and other such tripe.

        PUAs rarely try to explain things to the extent he does. And the ones who do now probably do because of him.

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      • And to tell you the truth, most of my personal associates I show this site to tell me pretty much that they are amused by it all, but that they don’t need it. This site is just a chronicling for those not in the know of behaviors that naturally occur to socially dominantly elite.

        Of course, if you are a ‘natural’ this is all Remedial at Life 101, basically. However, being in the same category as your associates I do glean some nuggets of wisdom here from time to time as well re: game. And not really in a specific way but more in a metasense. Because you can take some of the knowledge here that seems very banal about how to bang bar flies and re-calibrate it for a variety of situations. So the game stuff is still of some interest to me as well beyond merely entertainment value.

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      • I’ve been viewing seduction as a game such as a chess match between me and the girl.

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      • Hey, welcome to my side of the planet, Yas.

        I’ve always said the one type of woman that’s impossible to seduce is the woman who sees her man as the highest value male around. Those girls won’t even let me get my foot in the door to demonstrate higher value than him.

        Nice to see you finally drop by.

        Matt

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      • Riding on my coattails yet AGAIN, Matt? Come on now, it’s getting old lol

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      • No, I am genuinely satisfied that you have come around to what I have been saying from day one, but your arrogance had to make it into a wedge issue. Playing up differences that weren’t there so that you could pose as a superior.

        You are not capable of publicly recognizing or admitting this (and likely, not even privately), which is fine by me, expected. But you should acknowledge your limitations for your own sake as the first step to transcending them.

        No, the next predictable move is to split hairs and note nitpicky, non-germane differences in the attempt to keep an artificial distance. How we really don’t agree.

        Women, through a “game” of their own, surely can make themselves immune to game for the sake of a higher principle, such as fidelity to a man both “in sickness and in health.” Especially those women who had strong fathers.

        Or, alternatively, not all women are bathroom-stall sluts with no self-respect or defense against maximum charm. A great many are, more than ever before. We live in a world of easy cooze, which makes your rudimentary skill set seem like magic to naifs. But women aren’t all irredeemable hundred-dick whores by nature or by default, not even in this age.

        Matt

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      • The part you don’t get is that you aren’t taking it far enough. You’re saying “if she was raised right she’ll never see certain things as high value and thus she’s a lock-in sure thing to be faithful”

        What I’m saying is that that same girl, if you created a situation where she valued your high-value attributes, would cheat just like any other hypergamous girl.

        That might mean becoming a social leader of her church group instead of at the bar. Or that might mean earning more money than her hubby. Or it could be on her end, like she goes through a period where she values things she didn’t before (she recently took up rock climbing and you happen to be a pro rock-climber and her hubby is out of shape and that didn’t matter to her before but now she sees rock-climbing and being active as high-value and you look more high-value than her hubby so Hypergamy kicks in).

        Your scope is too narrow because you’re trying to force a square peg into your religious hole and club to the Madonna/whore complex.

        Let go and see the bigger picture.

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      • You’re saying “if she was raised right she’ll never see certain things as high value and thus she’s a lock-in sure thing to be faithful”

        This isn’t just your usual straw-man. This is a direct quotation invented in whole cloth. You can do better than this, because you have a good point hidden under all that incredulity that I exist.

        I didn’t nor wouldn’t use unequivocal language like “lock-in sure thing” when it comes to the vagaries of female nature.

        What I’m saying is that that same girl, if you created a situation where she valued your high-value attributes, would cheat just like any other hypergamous girl.

        Precisely where we disagree. (And where you are now disagreeing with yourself above, where you said such types are “impossible to seduce.”)

        So, we agree that women can “accidentally” resist the temptation of Apex Alpha by lying to herself about her husband’s comparative value. And we agree that lie is large enough to counteract the sodden mess of her panties brought on by tingles.

        But you have not yet acknowledged that such resistance can be deliberate and rational, no matter what powerful emotions are attempting to take hold of her will.

        A woman can indeed make a principled decision independent of her crotchal passions. The weaker sex is less rational and less disciplined than men, to be sure, but blowing up her 7 husband and all his long-term non-groin attributes just to slake her cunt on a 9 isn’t just abnormal behavior, but the exact opposite reaction is nearly automatic. She can have tingles while consciously recognizing that tingles are temporary and to follow them would be catastrophic. She can pine after Christian Grey and giggle with her BFF’s, but the irrational attempt to pursue a fictional character would humiliate most women — but again, not that there aren’t some that do it anyway.

        You claim to know female impulses well, and yet your speculation sounds an awful lot like male sexuality transposed onto women. A man is far more susceptible to risking an affair with a 9 than a woman would be because, for starters, his body does not bear the evidence of adultery, not to mention his cheap-gamete psychology. There is a reason why the term “slut” is unique to the female sex.

        So yes, I don’t think behavior is predestined and controlled by animal urges. I do think women are rational actors with free will and capable of self-discipline. The great utility of game theory is that it exposes just how depraved these precious little snowflakes are when given full license. But hypergamy is not a total, irredeemable depravity impervious to any attempt at control. It yields to custom (and to paternal will) not just because it is weaker and because shame works, but because women are indeed rational enough to understand that moderating their impulses is in their best interests.

        Matt

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      • “A woman can indeed make a principled decision independent of her crotchal passions”

        “I do think women are rational actors with free will and capable of self-discipline”

        lol that’s cute. I guess you’ve swallowed the feminist mantra full-out, hey? You going to replace the male staff in one of your successful businesses with an all-female staff anytime soon? I mean, women are rational actors with free will and capable of self-discipline, so that should work out fine, right?

        After that, we’ll have all the nice guys list their resumes to girls, because they can logically convince them that they’re the attractive choice. That always works!

        “but blowing up her 7 husband and all his long-term non-groin attributes just to slake her cunt on a 9 isn’t just abnormal behavior, but the exact opposite reaction is nearly automatic.”

        I would suggest that you have this view because you’ve never caused this kind of reaction in a woman. Don’t use FeministX’s lack of wanting to ditch her super-old boyfriend to bone your high-value wang as a yardstick for normal female behavior. Field experience is king…real field experience, not online blog flirting lol

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 9:43 pm alexandrahamilton87

        @Matthew King

        I agree that good values and understanding one’s own impulses can go a long way towards controlling them. There are men who do not cheat on their (loving, non-potato couch) wives even though they could bang hotter women with ease and undoubtedly are occasionally tempted to do so. Likewise, there are women capable of acknowledging their occasional attractions to bad boys but who restrain themselves out of both moral principle and long-term self interest. In fact, this used to be the norm, because there were massive social consequences for cheating and spinsterdom at 37.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 9:44 pm alexandrahamilton87

        *Couch potato. Sometimes my Polish parents’ syntax gets to me. Apologies.

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      • This little jousting tournament is fascinating to me… because from my outsider 3rd person viewpoint, you are both saying the same thing. The differences seem to be -degree-.

        Said another way— you both freely admit that there exists women who are basically ‘uncorruptible’ from a game perspective. They may be fiercely attracted to you, but they will shut you down no matter what. Where we go off the rail seems to be that Matt thinks these creatures are probably in some abundance. Ya seems to think they are a unicorn.

        I think the truth is probably somewhere in between. I have had women so enamored with me that I was 100% certain if Brad Pitt walked into the room and said “lets fuck” it simply would not have happened. And, generally speaking, I think this is the goal of all men to get their women in this frame.

        But using my own life as the metric this has been the exception, by far, not the rule. I have had a few girlfriends who were starstruck by me, but Matt’s theory correlates well. Strong father figures, conservative background (though not necessarily religious) and generally of above average intellect for a female.

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      • i think there is some overlaps, but i think yareally’s point is a bit different than matt’s, though. let’s break it down.

        matt is (in very simplified terms) saying that some chicks, by their very upbringing (strong dads, religion, etc.), are more or less incorruptible because they learn to control their baser motivations. as such, they could not be pulled away from their man. yareally is saying that no chick is incorruptible UNLESS AND UNTIL you, her partner, showcase a requisite level of “tingle-inducing alpha.” upon achieve said level, you ain’t gonna lose your chick to some other dude.

        therefore, to my mind, the difference really comes down to the SOURCE of the incorruptibility. matt suggests that the woman can be the gatekeeper to her incorruptibility, while yareally suggests that you, her man, are the gatekeeper.

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      • please excuse my various typos, etc.

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      • Matt thinks these creatures are probably in some abundance. Ya seems to think they are a unicorn.

        I wouldn’t say they are thick on the ground either. They are certainly in lesser “abundance” than they should be, and fewer and farther between than they would be in a manly culture.

        Either way, my main point is the actual presence or absence of “abundance” issue is moot. A man makes his own abundance. Both through individual creation — one’s wife (wives) and daughters — and through coordinated effort/leadership among men to transform the culture.

        The pool of women is not a static quantity of single-dimensional stereotypes that must be conformed to. Our (men’s) very expectation of inveterate sluttiness is what creates and sustains that sluttiness.

        Which redounds to what I was saying earlier. Very few women alone, even those properly guided since prepubescence, can maintain virtue in this sewer culture (see CH’s next post today). But when men give up the expectation, girls have no chance whatever against their hypergamy. No matter an individual woman’s defenses, if they are not supported by family, faith, the outer culture, or by a single strong man’s expectations and dread-inducement, they will indeed become YaReally’s stark stereotype.

        In other words, I blame us. And I blame us for a specific tactical reason: if we believe the cause is out of our hands, then the solution is also out of our hands. The flip-side of patriarchy — the very factor which sustains our superiority to women — is taking responsibility for the inborn female weakness which inevitably produces lapses in their virtue. We know and they know they are pretty lambs for the slaughter outside their shepherd’s protection.

        This is why promoting and taking advantage of a woman’s sluttiness is ultimately feminist. This is why CH simultaneously shames sluts and promotes them (by advertising individual exploits). This is why we ultimately have to choose sides. Do you want a world of loose women to make seduction easier, or do you want one with impregnable (heh) defenses to make civilization possible?

        Without men’s conscious support, it is impossible for women to maintain virtue.

        Matt

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      • Yeah Ok Cool wrote:

        matt suggests that the woman can be the gatekeeper to her incorruptibility, while yareally suggests that you, her man, are the gatekeeper.

        Not exactly, so let me clarify. In acknowledging a woman to be, in part, a rational actor, she certainly can contribute to her own “gatekeeping.” But ultimately without a man indemnifying her virtue, she will likely succumb to an overwhelming culture that ridicules chastity.

        It is ridiculous and crude to proceed from the assumption that men are 100% logos and women 100% pathos, even if that is how our diverging tendencies lean.

        YaReally doesn’t/can’t do subtlety, but it appears that you can. Neither caricature is true — obviously. We cannot characterize an entire sex as all-madonnas or all-whores. Rather, it is best to go with Aristotle’s suggestion that woman is a daimon somewhere between child and man, and to seek the golden mean as the idealized feminine form. We may then take our cue from that defining ideal, acknowledging YMMV in every particular instance, without unsubtle lowbrow thinking like YaReally’s to cajole the discussion through ridicule toward binary categorization.

        Matt

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      • Miss Hamilton wrote:

        Likewise, there are women capable of acknowledging their occasional attractions to bad boys but who restrain themselves out of both moral principle and long-term self interest.

        Why is this so scandalous to acknowledge? Why is the ideological architectonic so rigidly constructed that it must defy this simple statement of common sense?

        I mean, I understand that we don’t want there to be confusion in boot camp when certain principles are being instilled. But we’re not all raw recruits here. My disagreement with YaReally is almost always caused by his inability to accept a qualified statement for fear one tick back toward the middle might endanger the zeal of recently-converted, precious and vulnerable n00bs.

        But even those guys aren’t as stupid as he takes them for. They can handle a complicated concept. There is no reason for his built-in disrespect/condescension towards them. They — *gasp* — might even become stronger and learn faster by dealing with oppositional challenges and critiques of game.

        Instead his students have learned to merely mimicking the worst of his weakest responses. When someone challenges the creed, instead of examining the criticism and figuring out where it’s wrong, even the understudy lackeys are now waving their hand and saying, “You obviously don’t go out enough,” and other such patent evasions and ploys. That does nothing to prepare the next generation’s nimbleness in defense. The whole world will be against them, and he is sending them out holding their dicks.

        Matt

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm alexandrahamilton87

        @Matthew et al,

        Maybe it’s not so common for women to think long-term now, but it used to be the norm (obviously, with many who failed to live up to it, even then). Perhaps because being a slut and/or single at 37 made you untouchable socially, so women’s worst instincts were being socially punished rather than rewarded.

        Let’s not forget, so were most Cassanova types. Dracula is essentially about you types, and we (society) used to make sure you were staked before you seduced too many silly women out of their virtue.

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      • “There is no reason for his built-in disrespect/condescension towards them.”

        ooo, I like your new tactics lol between this and the “you hate women” move, you would make a great junior high-school girl.

        “We cannot characterize an entire sex as all-madonnas or all-whores.”

        “No matter an individual woman’s defenses, if they are not supported by family, faith, the outer culture, or by a single strong man’s expectations and dread-inducement, they will indeed become YaReally’s stark stereotype.”

        This doesn’t exist anymore. I’m just dealing with reality.

        “Without men’s conscious support, it is impossible for women to maintain virtue.”

        Make up your mind. Either women are capable of making logical rational choices or they aren’t. You’re basically agreeing that they aren’t and they need the support of men and their enviornment to make it possible. I’m saying that support no longer exists, except in your fantasy world in your head where you’re surrounded by madonnas, because you don’t go out and see what the world is really like these days.

        Maybe in some obscure corner of the bible belt, or in super-traditional EE places…but even then a lot of those girls won’t cheat simply because they aren’t presented the right opportunity to.

        Like I say, I think a big part of why guys still believe there are madonnas is because they haven’t got the skills to make girls ignore Brad Pitt for them.

        Jay in DC says:

        “I have had women so enamored with me that I was 100% certain if Brad Pitt walked into the room and said “lets fuck” it simply would not have happened.”

        But instead of going “so logically, if my game was tighter, this would be a consistent thing”, he goes the opposite way and neutralizes it with “But using my own life as the metric this has been the exception, by far, not the rule.”

        All that means is that his game could be better. If when you throw a basketball properly at a hoop, it goes in, but you’ve only thrown a few perfect basketballs in your life, that doesn’t mean that “a basketball thrown properly will go in a hoop” is the exception to the rule. It means that 1) that is possible to do, and 2) if you practice and train enough, you can increase the likelihood of it happening. It’s illogical to come to the conclusion that it’s the exception to the rule when Michael Jordan can sink a dozen baskets in a row.

        This is why I say go out more, train harder, push your comfort zone, increase your skillset, and you’ll start seeing that 90% of the time when someone says “oh ya that might work on those bar sluts, but that’d never work on this high-quality good-girl I know”, that’s just them saying “I can’t do it or have never done it or haven’t seen it done consistently, so I assume no one else can either”.

        This is a skillset you can improve, not rolling dice.

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      • Can’t this all just be boiled down to “almost anyone will cheat (or be tempted to cheat) if the circumstances are right”? Unfortunately that’s probably true. But it will be much much harder to create those circumstances if the girl is starry eyed over her guy. I’ve experienced it and it’s like an attraction fog; you can’t see past how amazing he is to even TRY to evaluate anyone else.

        But for the sake of argument, let’s say a guy like YaReally can break through the fog. So now the girl feels attracted to him and has the temptation to cheat. But she now has the choice to remove herself from the temptation before it grows into something she might not be able to handle. No girl is so paralyzed by her *initial* attraction to a guy that she can’t remove herself from alluring presence.

        Avoiding temptation is a big part of fidelity, isn’t it? It’s not pretty or flowery but it’s the truth. For men and women both.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 9:38 pm alexandrahamilton87

        What Amy said. If you are attracted to another man and have any virtue and self-awareness, you will not allow yourself to be alone with him. These things actually used to be common sense, not voodoo.

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      • @Amy

        “Can’t this all just be boiled down to “almost anyone will cheat (or be tempted to cheat) if the circumstances are right”?”

        Yep. Like I say, even if she’s super-religious, if you convince her that fucking you is something God wants her to do, she’ll do it, because you’re creating a circumstance where you have high value in her system of values. And a lot of “bar values” (social dominance, leadership of men, confidence, social proof, etc.) are universal outside of the bar (despite Matt thinking the sun and office air conditioning makes confidence no longer attractive lol).

        “But it will be much much harder to create those circumstances if the girl is starry eyed over her guy. I’ve experienced it and it’s like an attraction fog; you can’t see past how amazing he is to even TRY to evaluate anyone else.”

        Also agreed. A lot of guys probably read my “she won’t even give me the time of day to get my foot in the door” like “ohhh you got shot down lolol you suck”. But the reality is that if her man weren’t around, she would probably give me a chance, but she’s in that attraction fog where not only doesn’t she have an interest in TRYING to evaluate another man, but she’s ALSO pro-actively taking steps like you describe below, to prevent her from being around me long enough to risk me breaking through that fog, by trying to brush me off as fast as possible.

        “But for the sake of argument, let’s say a guy like YaReally can break through the fog. So now the girl feels attracted to him and has the temptation to cheat. But she now has the choice to remove herself from the temptation before it grows into something she might not be able to handle.”

        Right, and in THEORY this is along the lines of what Matt’s saying, where if her social conditioning is that she’ll be branded a slut and her man will leave her etc., like that there’ll be severe consequences for cheating, she’ll try to avoid it or remove herself from the situation.

        And that’s awesome. In THEORY. In the 1950s, that worked fine. But I’m dealing with reality, here in almost 2014. The world has changed.

        In this current reality, not only are there basically no consequences for a girl cheating, but girls are ACTIVELY ENCOURAGED to do it (eat, pray, love! You go grrrl!! this very article we’re commenting under, etc.). Women are encouraged by all of society, including men both feminist and gamers, to embrace their inner-slut and run with it and be empowered. No one will hold them to any kind of consequence. If their marriage breaks up, the government ensures that their ex-husband continues to pay them alimony and child-support while their entire circle of friends tells them she’s better off without that loser and that he was too controlling and insecure because he didn’t accept her cheating and stay with her, etc.

        Like, that’s the reality we, guys in the sexual marketplace, in almost 2014, are dealing with.

        This is why I don’t entertain the notion of the magical unicorn madonna. She’s so rare that it’s ridiculous to even care about…and there’s a large portion of girls who SEEM like madonnas, but only seem that way to the guys they hide their slutty side from.

        Pretty much any girl can tell you that only their BFF knows the super darkest sluttiest things they’ve done, that their male friends have no idea they’re even capable of. And if they haven’t done them, they’ve thought about or fantasized about them. A lot of my game is based around bringing this side out of the girl in a judgement-free environment so that I’m basically the only person in her life who’s seen that side of her. Her friends all think she’s an angel, while I’m doing things to her that would shatter their mind to imagine her even being capable of doing, let alone enjoying and wanting and coming back for more.

        And women know this about themselves. But guys fall for the “women aren’t like that” Disney bullshit and go off thinking the world is full of madonnas/whores…when really it’s just full of women who haven’t been presented an opportunity to, consequence-free, live out their darkest fantasies. Once you can provide that for a woman, the gates open up. This is why LMR-busting works…”we aren’t having sex tonight, I’m not that kind of girl!” she says, as she’s taking off her shirt. Meanwhile the guy who took her on 3 dates, or her beta orbiter, or even her alpha fuckbuddy who simply has hang-ups about certain sexual things, thinks she’s a good-girl, because they don’t create that situation for her where she can fully let go.

        “No girl is so paralyzed by her *initial* attraction to a guy that she can’t remove herself from alluring presence.”

        Technically this happens, but it takes a lot of value in the guy to do it. But women understand this about themselves so they have safety nets.

        Like girls go out in groups. Why? To keep eachother from getting sucked in off that initial attraction. GirlA is married to some lame guy but meets Mr.PUA, and Mr.PUA blows her mind…GirlA is practically hypnotized frozen in place like a deer in the headlights attracted, and Mr.PUA knows it’s on, but then out of nowhere GirlB storms in, grabs her friend and shouts “WE HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM!!!!!” and drags her off while she looks back at Mr.PUA even as she’s being dragged off.

        GirlB knows that she has to get GirlA away from Mr.PUA because she’s too overwhelmed by her emotions to make rational decisions anymore. She doesn’t come over and logically list reasons to the girl to not fuck Mr.PUA, and she doesn’t wait for GirlA to come to rational conclusions about how it could fuck up her marriage herself…she knows that GirlA is basically helpless and she needs to get her the fuck as far away as possible and bring her back to her senses so she can calm down and rationally consider things.

        But if GirlB wasn’t there? GirlA would be fucking Mr.PUA. It’s not that GirlA is a bad person, it’s that Mr.PUA’s game is tight and he triggered the right emotions and circumstances.

        Like I say, I think a lot of guys here who have trouble understanding how captivating you can be to a woman, have simply not been the Mr.PUA in that example, or haven’t been him consistently, and seen how powerful this shit is. They’ve been the orbiters or decent at pickup but not super-captivating, so they can’t relate to how helpless a woman who’s emotions are triggered properly really is. And women/society won’t acknowledge it because that goes against the feminist mindset that we’re brought up to believe in…but she’ll still bring GirlB out to the bar with her because she KNOWS.

        “Avoiding temptation is a big part of fidelity, isn’t it? It’s not pretty or flowery but it’s the truth. For men and women both.”

        There’s not much, if any, incentive to avoid temptation these days, is the crux of what I’m saying. Matt longs for a return to the 1950s where girls were shamed and disciplined for acting on their emotions. And that’s awesome, people probably were a lot more faithful back then (at least physically)…

        But that is not the world we live in right now. I’m dealing with reality, in the here and now, not a fantasy world or a rose-tinted memory of a former time.

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      • Amy asked:

        Can’t this all just be boiled down to “almost anyone will cheat (or be tempted to cheat) if the circumstances are right”?

        I suppose it can “all just be boiled down to” that, but that boils the controversy right out of it.

        The devil is in the details of the enormous chasm between “will cheat” and “be tempted to cheat.” This is where non-Christians are at a fatal disadvantage. Christians are trained since children to maneuver through the all-important distinction between temptation and action. It is second nature.

        Which is why YaReally’s stark exaggerations about bedding virtuous women are beside the point. I am parsing the differences between “all,” “most,” “some,” and “none.” Because if it is in woman’s incorrigible nature to cheat every time, then using terms like “all women” apply.

        It is indeed in woman’s nature, but it is not incorrigible. Women can develop their rational discipline to control unruly passions, with or without the support of the culture. Cultural support is nice, but not the decisive factor. The decisive factor is upbringing. It is not so easily dismissible just because so many sluts in so many self-selected crowds make it appear “the [entire] world has changed” and therefore the rational nature of women can never be recovered, either in individual cases or in the culture at large.

        And my further point was, the very assumption that all women naturally can’t help but cheat (and the only question is the opportunity) creates the expectation which promotes those those temptations into becoming actions. If it’s in her chromosomes and she just can’t physically keep her panties on, then we have no business calling her to account for her choices.

        And that is dumb dumb dumb. Volition is always a factor. Never in the history of mankind has a woman “accidentally” fallen onto a man’s hard dick. It’s only our putrid culture that regards moral choices as “accidents.” Like, I “accidentally cheated on you” and “I accidentally got pregnant.” No, trollop, you pursued your desire for pussy-friction, and at some point, conveniently elided in your memory, you abandoned yourself to whatever consequences may occur.

        The girls most cognizant of this responsibility crescendo are the ones who know what it means to dress a certain way or to drink oneself into a blackout around strangers. Virtue itself means having a healthy conscious understanding of that chain of volition from the beginning, which keeps present the vital importance of one’s sense of responsibility between choice and fait accompli in the face of temptation.

        The best analogy is the alcoholic knowing not to ever step into a bar; not, go into a bar and promise to drink only club soda. Virtue means knowing which prior choices diminish one’s capacity to resist temptation down the line. YaReally claims all women in 2014 are inveterate drunks, you just have to wave the right bottle around. This is what happens when you spend too much time in bars and AA meetings.

        I am saying that it is possible — and not even all that hard — to train girls to approach alcohol rationally through force of subrational habit. But YaReally thinks he can get every Mormon girl wasted and puking her guts out because deep down they are all alcoholics just waiting for the “opportunity.”

        Matt

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      • And to come full circle, all of the above is exactly the nuance YaReally was initially promoting above (“Those girls won’t even let me get my foot in the door to demonstrate higher value than him”) before he decided to get combative out of pique.

        I was saying, “Hey, we agree,” and he went and tied himself in knots just to avoid the appearance of the possibility.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 4:36 pm Lucky White Male

        Interesting again Ya

        Are you saying — I want to hear you correctly — are you actually saying that BRAD PITT, MARRIED Brad Pitt, could NOT fuck any woman he wanted basically if the logistics assured enough discreteness for a woman

        Are you saying that a married woman would pass up a
        “Brad Pitt” or his equivalent?

        A “Brad Pitt” would blow away the SMV of 99.9% of men walking around on the planet – no matter how perfect that husband was for some wife previous to laying eyes on Brad Pitt

        I’m not trying to challenge you. But I’ve assumed that all these societal rules that girls have, go out the window when in the presence of a man at least 3 SMV points higher (Rollo Tomassi)

        I thought this was an ironclad rule of thumb

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      • “A “Brad Pitt” would blow away the SMV of 99.9% of men walking around on the planet – no matter how perfect that husband was for some wife previous to laying eyes on Brad Pitt”

        This goes back to my Pokemon champion example. If a Pokemon champion walks into the room, no one gives a shit and he’s probably actively LOWER value BECAUSE he’s a Pokemon champion. So to a girl in the room, dating a guy who doesn’t play Pokemon, she doesn’t give a fuck.

        But have that same guy walk into a Pokemon convention, and he’s a god. A girl there, dating a guy who doesn’t play Pokemon, but who has posters of this Pokemon champion all over her walls and has read every article on him and in her life Pokemon is super important…if he created the right circumstances, she would fuck him.

        This just comes down to relative value.

        So taking that back to Brad Pitt: if the girl puts value in things like celebrity status, adventurous one night stand memories, Brad Pitt himself, etc then she’ll fuck him if he creates the right circumstances. But if she doesn’t follow celebrity news, loves stability in her life, has no interest in ONS (so she doesn’t value the attributes he has) and at the same time she values things like long-term commitment, fatherhood-potential, etc (so she values attributes he wouldn’t be able to provide for her), she’ll choose her hubby who has her relative values.

        Most women respond to the same general values (social dominance, leadership, confidence, etc) so again I’m talking about the extreme ends of the spectrum here…but understanding this concept allows you to apply the knowledge in various ways, like a way to AMOG would be to frame the AMOGs features as unattractive (“wow that guy has a 6-pack, that’s awesome but he must spend all his time in the gym. I dunno, I’d rather have a belly and actually live my life and date girls lol have you girls ever had a boyfriend who ignores you to hang out at the gym all the time? That doesn’t even make sense to me lol”). Or when you run into a stripper, you be extra dominant/assholeish because odds are her value system involves dominance. Or when you run into a nice virgin girl you slow-play it because you know she values a guy who won’t pressure her about sex, etc etc

        A lot of this is just calibrating to the girl and deciding which parts of your personality to focus on demonstrating (VS completely changing your behavior/beliefs based on the girl, which would be supplicative…it’s subtle but there’s a difference).

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      • I don’t even worry about this shit tbh. It’s just so obvious that the connections you make with women using game are different. Most couples that I see are together for mostly non-game related reasons (guy is good looking and at best knows how to FAG). It’s no accident that when women talk about ‘love of my life’ or whatever, the relationship is totally different and the guy has a dynamic personality that engages the woman’s emotions.

        So….nothing is a sure thing against infidelity, but tight game is a rarity. Why? Because it’s so fxing hard to learn if you aren’t some sorta sick, wicked natural (not even the normal kind that picks up on AI’s and rolls in). The more you go out, the more you realize most guys are just wrapped up in their external bullshit and have insane amounts of insecurities. True confidence is a scarce thing.

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      • “Meanwhile I don’t have any of that but when the girl talks to me, in my mind I’m higher value than Clooney Pitt and Kanye combined, and to me the girl is lucky that she gets even a few minutes of my attention and that’s the confident vibe I give off, like she’s just won the jackpot even tho it’s not objectively based on anything.”

        Here’s the part I have trouble with. How do you internally feel like you have that much value, when you really don’t? For example, the doctor. He’s accomplished, wealthy, intelligent etc, so he knows that he has value and his attitude should reflect that. But how can a guy with none of that pretend he has more value than he really does? How can you create value for yourself out of nothing?

        Like, you can think in your head, “I have value and girls are lucky to talk to me”, but how is that any different from an ugly chick thinking “I’m sexy as hell and any guy would be lucky to have me”? I get that the point is to have her feel like you’re higher value than other guys, but how do you get in that mindset in the first place?

        & more importantly, how exactly would you demonstrate that “I’m higher value than Clooney Pitt and Kanye combined, and to me the girl is lucky that she gets even a few minutes of my attention” compared to someone who didn’t think that?

        Fuck, I’m lost lol

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      • ‘Here’s the part I have trouble with. How do you internally feel like you have that much value, when you really don’t? For example, the doctor. He’s accomplished, wealthy, intelligent etc, so he knows that he has value and his attitude should reflect that. But how can a guy with none of that pretend he has more value than he really does? How can you create value for yourself out of nothing?’

        Welcome to the game, brah! That’s the trick. Ultimately, it will come down to reference experiences. Going through shit in life will toughen you up. So if you get out there and start taking risks, you will naturally start to not give a fuck.

        Like, I hate to say it, but the whole debacle with this miscarriage and the heartbreak is really just turning me into a tank.. And it could just be a fluke, but I’m on another roll as we speak.

        So instead of doing the whole affirmation BS…try just being 100% congruent and committing yourself to a pain period. Just go out, express however you feel, and ya…probably get shot down. Over time, you will get comfortable expressing how you feel in the moment. When you get comfortable expressing how you feel, you express your desire in a confident manner. When you can express your desire in a confident manner, you can start having FUN expressing your desire. When you start having fun with it, and have that much confidence in yourself…women notice. When women notice you, they fuck you.

        And how do you demonstrate that? lol let me count the ways. Ultimately, you start with a bunch of fake-ass DHV shit and scripts. But also try to start hanging out with people who are cooler than you — preferably dudes who are good with women.

        Eventually, you’ll have your own DHV material from your own awesome life. But ya, check out the mystery method and all of that stuff for how to get started with the basics.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 4:30 am Hugh G. Rection

        But how can a guy with none of that pretend he has more value than he really does? How can you create value for yourself out of nothing?

        You pretend. You can even call it playing a role, acting etc.. Of course if you think of yourself as an utter lose and as having no value, you might want to do something to rectify that, especially when you’re a bad actor.

        Like, you can think in your head, “I have value and girls are lucky to talk to me”, but how is that any different from an ugly chick thinking “I’m sexy as hell and any guy would be lucky to have me”? I get that the point is to have her feel like you’re higher value than other guys, but how do you get in that mindset in the first place?

        You can objectively verify that she’s ugly, and she can too. Confidence is easily faked in comparison.

        more importantly, how exactly would you demonstrate that “I’m higher value than Clooney Pitt and Kanye combined, and to me the girl is lucky that she gets even a few minutes of my attention” compared to someone who didn’t think that?

        Well maybe just don’t hang out with A List actors and Kanye.

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      • I have to disagree with this. I see this happen all the fucking time son. Something like this almost happened this weekend at one of my home spots. This woman was an easy 9 and her husband was a very high value alpha male with a lot of money and connections, but the “dream team” worked on her all night and he had to drag her out of there because she wanted to come home with us. She is probably going to show up there again sometime when he is out of town on a business trip.

        Seriously, we eat up almost any female who comes in there. The night before I was starting to attract a 9 who is married to this 7 foot alpha everyone is afraid of, but I had her going. On of his friends was in the bar spying on us and AMOGed me hard and got her out of there, but I only had been talking to her running some cold reading telling her she looked like a sneaky prankster who also liked to throw snide barbs out etc. I thought if was funny, because I wasn’t even trying hard and didn’t even care about like the AMOG spy did. If I really wanted to I could have pushed him out of the way and kept going, but I was being a good sport.

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      • You’re defining ALPHA and high value based on external attributes tho. Or I should say ‘non-personality’ attributes.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 6:40 pm Hugh G. Rection

        What’s the use in even arguing this shit when you can’t even agree on definitions?

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      • The use is that DESPITE this ENTIRE blog being dedicated to the INTANGIBLE ways a man can make himself more alpha, the majority of the commenters hill still dunderheadedly equate alpha with accomplishments that only men care about.

        The entire blog is about game and what women respond to. The men here seem to ignore that and say ‘see this guy climbs a mountain, therefore alpha….what, this blog has several entries about how women could give a fuck about some guy’s bullet-point resume? who cares?! I DO. THEREFORE HE MUST BE ALPHA. THEREFORE I SAW AN ALPHA GET CHEATED ON. Q.E.D.’

        on top of that, most of the takeaway in the comments about game are ‘say like two words at a time and be a total asshole.’ Which is nonsense. it’s a bunch of people who can only juggle particulars, rather than first integrating and second connecting the particulars to the universal.

        Men see a serial killer who gets women. The men think — ‘oh women must like EVIL!’ Men see a guy text ‘gay’ who gets a woman’ ‘OH THAT’S IT…GAY.’ And so on, so on.

        Ultimately, the mindsets just turn the men negative and bitter, which will just make it worse for them.

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      • alllllllllllll of this.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 2:35 am Hugh G. Rection

        Well unless you find more effective names for things it’ll be this way forever. Haters gonna hate no matter what, strawmen always abound.

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      • I’m fine with it being this way forever. Out of every 100 guys on here, maybe 2 or 3 will use the info to improve their lives. Just how it is.

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      • The entire blog is about game and what women respond to.

        You illustrate why that game-hating MRA critic a few posts back had a point under all his whinery.

        Quick, novice. Recite Poon Commandment III.

        The “accomplishments that only men care about” lead to the status and attitude that women care about, which you so poorly attempt to reconstruct independent of actual achievement for purposes of trickery/imitation.

        At some point it becomes easier to just focus on accomplishing real things.

        You are happy to change your wardrobe but too scared to change your soul. Yours is the superficial approach, and that’s the old omega in you.

        Matt

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      • The “accomplishments that only men care about” lead to the status and attitude that women care about, which you so poorly attempt to reconstruct independent of actual achievement for purposes of trickery/imitation.

        Oh please. Unbreakable confidence is the solution to a problem solved in several different ways. Nothing here — or what I’ve said — discourages personal accomplishment and self-betterment. The problem for most men is that they are proceeding through a dark maze with no idea where the exit light lies. The eureka at the end comes from forging iron character. So ya, one way to do that is to acquire external attributes that constantly remind you of your worth. However, because -that- is the path that most men are aware of, a path that many men follow only to fail in their quest to leave the maze (See Bodybuilding.com, countless beta rich-dudes), and a path that in and of itself guarantees nothing — I’d rather just focus on the core truth.

        Maslow ranked his hierarchy in a particular way for a reason. To self-actualize, it helps to have love and intimacy first. That helps a man figure out his mission — to satisfy baser needs. To know your mission requires you to know yourself, and you come to know yourself in your dealings with both your peers and the fairer sex. So your approach puts the cart before the horse. I’m just proceeding in correct order.

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      • That is all very nice, but you’re sneaking in some question begging, signing Maslow’s name to it (his authority is a discussion in itself), and calling it a day.

        To self-actualize, it helps to have love and intimacy first. That helps a man figure out his mission — to satisfy baser needs.

        What you’re saying is, pursuing “love and intimacy first” helps a man “figure out” he has to pursue love and intimacy first. But let’s consider whether “love and intimacy” is indeed at or near the par of breathing and hunger. Your unquestioning assumption that they are prior to ambition and great accomplishment is shallow.

        I will show you a more basic need than eating, breathing, or even existing; and I will present a far more reliable authority than that hack utilitarian Maslow.

        Psychologists should bethink themselves before putting down the instinct of self-preservation as the cardinal instinct of an organic being. A living thing seeks above all to discharge its strength — life itself is will to power; self-preservation is only one of the indirect and most frequent results thereof.

        — Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, ch. 1

        In other words, the discharge of strength, to see your volitional effect on the world, to feel motion, effort, and purpose — this comes prior to even breathing, and I will demonstrate the truth of that insight this way. Tell me, if you were consciously comatose, with no ability to move, talk, or even blink — would you prefer that torture to the sweet release of death? You are getting fed through a tube, plenty of water, a machine makes you breathe. Is being hooked into “The Matrix” and conscious of it anything that can properly be called “life”?

        That is the true understanding of “Will to Power,” often confused for “might makes right.”

        Masculinity qua masculinity would rather be dead than trapped and inert. Extrapolating that to a man’s social existence, he would rather not exist than be denied the possibility of accomplishment. As Nietzsche said, all other things that are mistaken as “self-preservation” are in fact “only one of the indirect and most frequent results” of a man’s mission to discharge his strength.

        You can save your snarky “Oh pleases” for the dullards you are used to conversing with.

        Nothing here — or what I’ve said — discourages personal accomplishment and self-betterment. The problem for most men is that they are proceeding through a dark maze with no idea where the exit light lies.

        Except that making your mission “entire[ly] … about game and what women respond to” most certainly “discourages personal accomplishment and self-betterment.” Because you are focusing “entirely” on “what women respond to” rather than the “personal” and the “self.”

        So, in your follow up, you try to conflate the two as one-and-the-same, that pursuing a woman’s response is the more efficient way to “forg[e] iron character” because, presumably, you believe that taking care of “base needs” — mastering female responsiveness — is the most direct way to great accomplishment (“proceeding in correct order”), which inverts Tony Montana’s Bodybuilding.com mentality of first “you … make the money…. Then … you get the power. Then … you get the women.”

        Let’s concede your hierarchy arguendo but return to Nietzsche. Isn’t it better to understand that Iron Forging Through Pussy project as a species of will to power? Are you still conquering women just to get your once-neglected dick wet? Was that ever what it was all about anyway, getting tang to fulfill a Maslowian need?

        Or was the pussy project always been about proving to yourself that you could indeed bend women to your will?

        Hasn’t it, in fact, always been about proving yourself capable of great accomplishment, in this case, only incidentally with regard to women?

        If it were about simple “baser needs,” you would have paid for the physical experience rather than doing it the hard way. Just like you pay for bread because you’re hungry rather than growing, harvesting, milling, mixing, and baking for fun.

        This is my problem with making “what women respond to” preeminent. Put aside the fact that that formulation is very nearly the definition of “beta.” The life-urge is will to power. Only when you place pussy pursuit in that context can it have any greater meaning. You and your PUA.com teachers have embarked on a grand project and achieved a mighty accomplishment in life, and the best way you understand it is as the mere satisfaction of a “baser needs.”

        Not only does that misinterpretation sell you and your achievement short, it confounds all attempts to translate your technique to pursuits beyond “base.” You see all talk of things beyond “what women respond to” as alien or even threatening (!) to the cause. Your huge mistake then is to interpret the entire world as a “hierarchy” of baseness rather than a series of very different goals — in kind rather than degree — that require very different approaches.

        Matt

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      • “and her husband was a very high value alpha male with a lot of money and connections”

        Irrelevant.

        In THAT ENVIRONMENT, she didn’t view him as the highest-value guy there. It doesn’t matter if he just closed a billion dollar deal and drove her there in his Ferrari. If, when in the venue, there are men there who she feels are higher-value than him, Hypergamy is triggered.

        This is why bartenders clean up with women especially at the bar they work at…they aren’t high-value objectively, but in their environment they have high status and, to the girls who don’t view the bar scene as just silly nonsense, those bartenders have high-value.

        You’re too zoomed in. Zoom out and look at the bigger picture.

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      • His buddy is a good man for running interference. If the husband is smart, he’ll dump this twat ASAP and with zero remorse.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 5:52 am The Burninator

        Where they’re too zoomed into a man’s “man viewed” 10,000 foot objective status, you’re too zoomed into specific niche environments and subjective-status. The truth lay somewhere in between I suspect. And as Matt said, correctly, hypergamy, while present, doesn’t erase a woman’s intelligence. Women are humans just like men, and while clearly not working on the same level of logic and intellect, they are still capable of using logic and intellect. They can and do weigh and balance things in a proper context at times (alas, far fewer times than men, especially the last 25 or so years of history).

        If what you and the subjective-status folks believed were 100% true 100% of the time, then no marriage would last beyond the first three months after the honeymoon. While a lot of marriages are failing, some are not (and by failing I don’t mean divorce necessarily, failing can also mean the beaten down schlub and the dominitrix).

        Maybe the best way to express it: The true alpha has frame everywhere. He defines the context of her feelings for him, regardless of the environment they’re in together. Real strength doesn’t rely on context to power itself.

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      • I said this same thing in a different way up above. The disagreement appears to be in degree / amount. Women of an upbringing and intelligence that reflect what you are stating are rather quite rare. Not unicorn rare, but you have to dig quite a bit to find one of that caliber.

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      • See this is why I read you.

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      • you failed at the basics.

        “A female 6 who manages to LTR a male 8”. Being entitled enough, somewhere down the road she is going to consider herself a female 8 or downgrade her alpha husband to a 6 and start checking out.

        Why? Cause she is entitled, hypergamy is a bitch and she doesn’t have any longer a moral compass (deep religious beliefs, society reprobation, etc) which are strong enough to prevent her from a ride in the carrousel in the quest for something “harder, better, stronger, faster”.

        Their ego is always skyhight due to social media, white knighting, massmedia, feminism entitlement and any girl out there is thinking herself that her SMV is over yours and although a third party neutral observation could say something different it doesn’t matter cause “their feelings are telling them that they deserve it cause they are worth it”. They are looking themselves at a mirror which always tell them what they want to hear.

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      • Boom… truth.

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      • This is inherently the problem in any LTR and especially marriage currently.

        If you are in a long term relationship, the longer you are in it, the more convinced the woman will become that you are at best, equals because if you could do better, you would leave this is basic female thinking.

        Add into the equation that women are never satisfied with the status quo, they always want more and eventually she will cheat or leave without some constraint like religious background or she has hit the wall and men don’t hit on her.

        If you are married, then at the point you say “I do.” you are at least two points down on your SMV at that moment.

        And guess what, there are two major points when women cheat, The first year of marriage when your SMW just took the hit . . and when they have kids. I guarantee you’re game is going to take a hit when you have kids.

        Kids make you beta.

        Look, you can pull women forever, you can string a woman a long for a good while (3.5 years give or take) but at some point EVERY relationship ends.

        It is inevitable.

        If for no other reason but after a few years that particular pussy is going to get stale and you aren’t going to give a shit about gaming it as much. The male desire for variety will bite you in the ass too.

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      • That’s not how it works. Jesus.

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      • on November 12, 2013 at 7:01 pm haunted trilobite

        You’re really digging into the root cause. On one hand, civilisation, religious beliefs and societal restraints are dead and buried, on the other hand, entitlement, social media ego salves, ‘you go grrl’ sistahood positive reinforcement, and white knighting are bolstering their solipsism to astronomical proportions. Where is this social programming coming from, and why are women and men 100% on board? Holllywoooood and movie magic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTUvbRl5Vxo (parts 2 and 3 really emphasise the rampant misandry being beamed out at us, the unsuspecting public)

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      • Dude, you’ve been looking for the wrong types of females in the wrong locations. Don’t date female lawyers. Get one that’s not a social climber.

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      • If it ever comes to that, why is it that the pancy-nancy men of this world are MORE concerned about commitment than women are? Maybe it’s because most males worry more about “maintaining and keeping” the relationship than females that females start presuming who actually is the leader in that relationship.

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  13. What a pile of steaming horse manure. When I read things like this, I seriously wonder whether feminists secretly hate all women, not just themselves.. But I disagree that it’s about ugly women trying to increase their mating chances. If women are less monogamous, men can be pickier, so this doesn’t help ugly girls.

    This BS is about fake equalism and the unrelenting effort to convince women that men are disposable, and securing their commitment is unnecessary. Part of that has been telling women they can, and should, have sex without emotion just like a man. That is never going to happen and the consequences of pushing women to do it are disasterous. You can see it happening now.

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    • I agree; I don’t think feminists are out to make all women equal in the SM, they’re trying to unmake femininity in its entirety. If the old-school second-wavers really wanted women’s contributions to society to be appreciated, then they would have pushed for that. Instead, they destroyed everything that women had, and insisted we all live a life that only suits the psychopathic members of our sex.

      But you can’t say that to most girls, or you have “internalized misogyny”

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      • Esther Perel… Hanna Rosin… ’nuff said.

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      • Hanna Rosin should be killed for what she’s doing to her family. A woman who doesn’t respect her son’s maleness is a despicable creature.

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      • Agreed. Why can’t she just teach her daughter that girls are “just as good” as boys, not superior to them? That women and men are made to complement each other, not compete against each other, and that each gender brings something different and important to the table? This is what my parents taught my brother and me. I think it’s disgusting that a mother can sit across the table from her son and calmly tell him he’s inferior to his sister and will grow up to be essentially useless in the modern world.

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      • Because she’s of the brood of vipers.

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    • We’re talking about Slate/HuffPo/Gawker type feminists, a specific and virulent breed. They’re almost to a woman, some combination of obese, ugly, and/or bitchy, so the casual sex arena is the only place in the SMP/MMP where they have any power to attract. Thus not surprisingly, their obsessions are hookup culture, rape, birth control, and abortion rights. Most have no children and neither do their friends, so it completely slips their mind what this would do to children. It’s amazing when viewed from Peoria instead of D.C. Their blind spot has always been, they assume what’s good for white college educated liberal single young SWPL women in the city, is good for the rest of women. In the end, I agree it won’t work. Infidelity tends to make people hate you, and it’s not one of those things that can be cured with magazine articles or excuses like “But I was honest about it.” It’s like MRA, something doomed to never go mainstream.

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      • “It’s amazing when viewed from Peoria instead of D.C. ”

        I was telling my buddy that when I was in town a few weeks ago. DC folks don’t get it and live in their own world. The best thing I ever did was leave there.

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      • Best thing I ever did was not move there – with my degree and military experience, DC is where I should be right now, in terms of work. I’m eternally grateful that I found sites like Roosh’s before I made that decision. Does not sound like a place conducive to finding a decent LTR.

        (I’m in a conservative state and still unemployed, but it’s worth it, to not be dealing with the SWPL guys who think that parroting back feminist propaganda about “respecting my right to choose” is a good way to get laid.)

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    • In many ways, Feminism is nothing but spoiling the game for those women who have what it takes. It’s a negative adaptive strategy. It’s the revenge of the socially awkward and bitter about it crowd. I recall the song 17 by Janis Ian. I barely remember high school or college. Some people never leave that mental prison. Don’t ever let those years be your best years.

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  14. Amy, I read somewhere a few years back a quote “the worst disservice ever done to women was the Sexual Revolution, and convincing them it was somehow good for them…”

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    • It’s true. The Pill freed women to have casual sex without consequences. Casual sex without consequences has never been what women want, regardless of what the feminists say. They’ve done a lot of damage trying to convince women promiscuity is normal and desireable.

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      • I read a blog once where a woman in her early 30s was making that point. She said at college there was tremendous pressure to sleep around and prove you are just as independent and uninhibited as the guys, even if you didn’t really feel that way. The result? Lots of pump&dumps and messed-up girls…

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  15. Women cannot split their loyalties. They wind up with contempt for both parties for allowing them to get away with it.

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  16. It’s a prime opportunity for some Black Knights to have a really good time.

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  17. Also, WHAT, WHAT oh mammon can we do to keep the wymin in the workforce where they are keeping salaries so low (and profits so high)?

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  18. CH is Correct:
    Feminism is a political and cultural movement to remove all taboos and restrictions on female sexuality, so that hypergamy may be unleashed, while also stigmatizing and regulating, particularly through force of law, male sexuality.

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  19. the video is quite upsetting, actually. watch how the father tries to reign in all of the little boy’s normal movements and behaviors. they are poisoning their son’s very being.

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  20. I got confused for a moment. When i first read the caption I thought the word “sanction” was used as a synonym to “penalty”.

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  21. Has anyone seen what Esther Perel? Looks like the wall came so quick it hit her hard in the face!

    BTW this image is courtesy of the TED website. I’m starting to lose respect for that organization. TED feels a lot like Wikipedia nowadays. You can’t tell who’s credible and who not, especially if they have been sneaking in people like her.

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  22. this is really interesting cuz i was just about to release my book:

    “RAAAAAAYP: How Physically Forcing Women to Fuck You Can Make Your Bond Stronger”

    nyt best seller here i cum

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  23. men are better than women at maintaining multiple lovers without sacrificing love or duty for any one of them. This is because men, unlike women, can easily sever sex from emotional connection.

    Casual sex may be more natural for men, but so is a real polygamy, in which men can love and maintain a wife and mistress(es), or multiple girlfriends, and realyl care about them all. Women are not like this; falling in love with a new man means purging the old one, falling out of love with him. There is no creature on the face of the earth more vicious than a woman going through a divorce. This is why harems (soft or literal) are alwas MFFF but the opposite, FMMM, is rare to nonexistent. (Margaret Mead late admitted she made up most of the data on her fanous study of Pacific islanders). Men collect women they love and adore, women need to belong to a strong man.

    The divorce industrial and family court complexes are rigged against the interests of men, and getting more rigged by the day. An army of leftoids fed on the swill of legalese will barely break a sweat holding the contradictory beliefs that women cheat for good reasons and men cheat because they’re oppressive patriarchs.

    Yup. Why the fuck is there even such a thing as alimony any more? Women now outnumber men in getting college degrees, the economy has shifted in a way that favors their strengths, and yet when a divorce happens it’s always the man who has to maintain the broad in the “lifestyle to which she has become accustomed.” That made sense in the era in which women could not earn what men did, but that era is long gone.

    I’d augment CH’s definition that feminism is not just (or even mainly) about sexual freedom for women- it’s a raw female power grab, directing the resources of society, the state, private enterprise, and all major institutions away from men and toward women. It’s not even disguised- it’s open and brazen. Men acquiesce because of lingering white-knight tendencies and brainwashing.

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    • Yup. Why the fuck is there even such a thing as alimony any more?

      Because it’s a transfer of money to women.

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      • Exactly. Women see alpha males as affirmation of themselves and will give everything to keep that feeling. All other men are resources to be exploited, which naturally carries over to the legal realm.

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      • More generally: Why is there X? Because it’s a transfer of money to women

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  24. remember that psychopathy s merely beating a girl at her own game.

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  25. Feminism won’t last long because it does a disservice to the prettiest girls. As feminism becomes bigger a larger fraction of prettier girls will feel undersold. This will make people turn against feminism and the pendulum will once again swing in the opposite direction. Or so I hope.

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    • Their SMV only rises when more women are fugly. You need a society where nearly all the women are beauties for what you talk about to work.

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      • I’d say it does a disservice to the feminine pretty girls.Their SMV goes down when the other pretty girls sleep around without requiring monogamy or any type of commitment. The increasing coarseness of women cause men to lose respect for them, which makes it harder for the feminine girl to show respect to men and find a desirable one willing to commit, even to a relationship. This dynamic is the most brutally evident in college, I think.

        Then you add the warped feminist pressure on girls to spend big money on higher ed and have a career. Feminine women usually want children and they want to be the primary caregiver. But they’re not really supposed to admit they want that, and they’re not supposed to make education and career choices based on it. Which is why we have legions of pretty, feminine women who are now miserably stressed, guilt-ridden professionals parking kids in daycare 12 hours a day to work at some paper pushing job, wondering why they don’t feel happy and empowered like the feminists promised they would.

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      • “…warped feminist pressure on girls to spend big money on higher ed and have a career.”

        This.

        Some years ago my buddy was getting his STEM PhD and dating a girl in the masters of (wait for it…) psychology program. They were very serious and he really loved her. They were great together. Both in their late 20s at the time. My buddy is a smart, good-looking, funny guy from a good family and with a great career.

        She finished her masters and entered a PhD program at another university halfway across the country. She told him that he would have to move to be with her. The masculine runs deep in him. He didn’t want to live in that part of the country or subordinate his life choices to hers. He broke up with her.

        I remember seeing his mother at a families get-together (we’re childhood friends). She remarked on it, saying “I don’t understand what is wrong with young women today.” She honestly couldn’t understand the choice my buddy’s ex made, prioritizing a psych PhD over a great marriage and family.

        Fast forward. My buddy married a girl 8 years younger and had a kid, happily married. No idea what happened to the ex. Probably unmarried, childless and cursing the matriarchy for selling her a pack of lies.

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    • Feminism won’t last because it causes civilizational collapse. It is the root cause of all that ails us today.

      As women get the vote, they usher in more and more idiocy in the form of social government programs.

      The vote should be limited to male heads of household above the age of 35.

      Enjoy the decline.

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      • “…social government programs…”

        really means

        “Taking money from productive people under threat of violence (jail) to give other people free stuff that they didn’t earn and don’t deserve.”

        The flip side of every entitlement is an obligation. There is no free lunch.

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      • but it should be emended for males over 35 even if they are not head of the house because until the fully effect is achieved some men may still be in beta so we need a few generations to pick that up.

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  26. on November 12, 2013 at 3:29 pm Cad and Bounder

    I have a confession. I was banging a feminist chick. She starts telling me about her long-term failed relationship with a feminist guy. A proper Schwyzer this one. He convinced her that it was feminist for her to ‘liberate herself’ and sleep with other guys. Naturally this meant it was feminist for him to bang other girls too. After a long while she finally took a lover, and it all fell apart from there on in. And I quote “never sleep with other people in a relationship, it never works”.

    They split up. He’s now happily married with kids, and she’s hit the wall and shattered by the thought of these two things.. But hey, you wanted feminism, so now go and enjoy it! Despite her depression, a little fun with a world class cad and bounder is never a bad thing. lolozololozloloz ™ GBFM

    Anyhow, she’s an attractive lady and has a beta provider who wants to marry her. So she says to me “I’ll only see you again like this IF I marry” the beta provider. Note the direct contradiction to the above quote, but remember folks, this is her hamster talking.

    I can’t help having a grudging respect for the feminist guy. He banged her for years, used feminist logic to bang other chicks, and then dumped her for a suitable wife. I, too, am getting to bang a chick on the side without any hint of commitment.

    Everyone’s a winner.

    Well apart from the beta provider that is. And it’s him in society that needs to wisen up.

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    • Feminist males are scum. I wonder if he’d consider it feminist for his now-wife to sleep with other guys.

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      • on November 13, 2013 at 4:14 am Cad and Bounder

        I doubt he would, it sounded like he was in a normal nuclear relationship now.

        There is a deeper point to this, which is that so many young girls get conditioned by feminist cunts and their dogma. After all, women are naturally inclined towards following a social hierarchy (in this case femcunt lecturers at university) and trying to fit in with the rest.

        And the feminist promise is very enticing to them. It offers them a whole load of moral rights, while obviating them from any responsibilities because they can always blame the patriarchy. A lot of women who could lead fulfilling lives are being ruined by this sort of thing.

        It strikes me that a large part of the problem is the way that the male prerogative is surgical and prejudicially removed from the MSM. I’ve dated American girls who seem entirely indoctrinated with feminist bulllshit, without them even knowing it.

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      • This is a very good point. A lot of girls get caught up in this stuff at a very young age, and never question it, because hey, that’s the way things are supposed to be, right? It’s sad that too many only figure out that they’ve been fed a pack of lies after those lies have destroyed their chance at real happiness.

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      • I’ve dated American girls who seem entirely indoctrinated with feminist bulllshit, without them even knowing it.

        If you’re constantly swimming in a sewage pond, you’ll start to stink. That’s their problem.

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    • on November 15, 2013 at 6:10 am haunted trilobite

      You might say, however, that the beta-provider is the only one in this charade that’s left with any semblance of honour

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  27. CH, you deserve some sort of punishment for linking that video.

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  28. is there a “alpha fucks beta bucks” rap song out yet. GBFM needs to write this if not.

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    • on November 12, 2013 at 6:47 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      “da professional womenz ode”

      SPECIAL WEDDING EDITION

      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      dat is how we roll
      da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
      and in our anuthes it doth deosul
      alpha fucks and beta bucks
      it is da way of da fed
      to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
      cuckold dose who pay for our bread
      beta bucks and alpha fucks
      it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
      da assetts from betas we plucks
      after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
      lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

      SPECIAL EDITION WEDDING CHORUS lzozozozo

      i gave it 4 free when i was younger hotter tighter
      back in college when i was thirty pounds lighter
      can’t hardly wait to butthext yyou in divorce court
      and have you fund my favorite buttehxtual sport
      gonna buy sexy lingerie with all dat alimonee
      fuck & suck alpha cocks as ur beta cock is just 4 pee
      tee hee hee teee heee heee l
      tee hee hee teee heee heee !
      i’m da modern liberated womanz
      i buttehxt before and after marriage
      and during it too, but not with you
      but with the father of da baby in da carriage
      lzozozzlozoz

      cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
      datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
      as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
      and say da great books for menz was all fools.
      yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
      dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

      zlzlzzozozozo

      zlzoozozozozo

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  29. That whole slate site is BULLSHIT *rageface*

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  30. The hour is later than you realize…..

    No, silly man, they don’t want to sanction infidelity, they already subsidize it. View divorce as a bounty on the head of any married man. When married *never* own assets (just lease, rent and bitcoin). Any assets or income will just be bounty for your wife, father-in-law and their attorneys to scheme to confiscate.

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  31. Lily Allen has always been, and always will be, an ugly little sewer troll. Made it worse for herself by trying the grrl power/slut girl route, since being a nice girl who could be feminine and virginal might have scored her a long-term relationship with a beta boy.

    The hilarious part is that while she’s tried very hard to claim (like Lena Dunham, another sewer troll) that her looks don’t matter, etc…yet all they can get are ugly little half-fags from 2nd rate bands looking for publicity, or else the kind of working-class joes they would have gotten before—but they never get the players.

    They are cum dumpsters of life. It’s hilarious.

    Not even worth a rape.

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  32. Your post today is further validated by the new ads for Obamacare. Note the push for women to get more contraception (at our expense).

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/12/obamacare-ads-colorado_n_4261448.html

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  33. Long live the shiv, long live CH!

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  34. Gentleman,

    On an unrelated note what do you make of this conversation.

    Me. you know what I’m in the mood for…
    Her: Hi… what you in the mood for?
    Me: Your body for my pleasure
    Her: And I need love and attention.
    Me: …
    Me: you need more from me?
    Her: No
    Me: good
    Me: good luck 🙂
    Her: thank you
    Her: good night

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    • well….it seems as tho you ellipsis’ed your way out of a fuck.

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      • This is a good example of calibration, tho. The chick wants to fuck you and she’s practically TELLING you what she needs in order for both of you to fuck. And y’know….rather than adjust so that you can get the lay, you just kinda… ‘…’ and said something like ‘you need more from me?’

        I mean, if you want to get into the game to show your friends funny txts you send to girls…then ya, this is it. But if you want to fuck them, you gotta come down from the Mount Olympus Super Alpha Myth Created By Society That Ironically Is What Kills Most Guys When It Comes To Women…and step into the actual town where the women are.

        Anyway….Immoral covered it. This is some basic ASD that you slightly mishandled.

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    • Her saying “And I need love and attention” was her slut-defense shields going off. Also, when girls use a “.” at the end, it’s like a point they’re trying to drive home, usually wrapped in negative feelings.

      Not sure if it was saying “I need more comfort” because trying to force it at that point wouldn’t have been the right move.

      So yeah, next time keep your eyes out for the “And I need love and attention.” type text. That’s her telling you she’s not fully compliant and she feels a bit icky about her body being used for your pleasure so no biggie, just adjust your game appropriately.

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      • “And I need love and attention” is a shit-test.

        The problem with this exchange is that it sets up a “neediness” from the start.

        the “…” should have been the end of it.

        Should have gone like this:

        Me. you know what I’m in the mood for…
        Her: Hi… what you in the mood for?
        Me: Your body for my pleasure (needy)
        Her: And I need love and attention. (shit test)
        Me: …
        Me: you need more from me? (why did you add to … ?) FAIL
        Her: No
        Me: good
        Me: good luck 🙂 (You blew her off)
        Her: thank you (cuts you off FAIL)
        Her: good night

        xxxx

        Try this next time:

        Me: “laying in bed…”
        Her: “Thinking of me?”
        Me: Behave
        Her; some rationalization she blabs on, you control the interaction….

        Plough on.

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    • She sounds incredibly dull. When I encounter this I can never tell whether the chick is intentionally being so to push me away, or she’s too dumb to have a conversation… but either way, not really worth pursuing IMHO.

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    • “My place. Bring the video camera.”

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  35. This article is pure, shrieking hysteria.

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  36. Remember, Rockefeller funded women’s lib for two reasons and two reasons only: 1. To be able to tax women. 2. To break up the family unit

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  37. And speaking of pure, shrieking hysteria….

    Love this: girl hitting a wall suddenly tries to rationalize finding a “man” ie orbiter vs boy ie: pua…

    I found this on a series of FB sharings with various girls chiming in.

    But as we all know a “woman” would never fuck over a guy, leave him for his best friend, dump him in his hour of need.

    http://justmytype.ca/11-differences-between-dating-a-boy-vs-a-man/

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  38. on November 13, 2013 at 1:12 am Sredni Vashtar

    More I think of it Hannah “End Of Men” Rosin is merely a more prestigious class of publicity troll.

    Starts by using her family as a social engineering project, then writes the most idiotic book since Paul Ehrlich and is now shilling on Slate for Ashley Madison.

    Even Slate readers must be sick of her by now

    A cameo on Honey Boo Boo to follow.

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    • Yeah, Slate’s readers seem royally annoyed with her all the time, even the female ones wish she’d just stop with the End Of Men, it’s an embarrassment even to them. But she’s married to Slate’s chief, so they’re basically stuck with her. Ironic, huh, when feminists get what they want through the power of sex. And Slate is a fairly big conglomerate-owned site, how do they get away with running Big Media like this? If this is how they chose who gets to work for pay in my profession (aerospace STEM guy), well, my company would be a whole hell of a lot of trouble.

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  39. […] Recall the Chateau Heartiste description of feminism: The goal of feminism is to remove all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality.  […]

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  40. Esther Perel is another jew. So many of these manhaters and saboteurs of our civilization seem to be… it must be a coincidence.

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  41. In other words, we shouldn’t be unrealistic in what we expect of women. If you want loyalty in your marriage, get a dog.

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  42. MRAs ought to push back with a simple, just cause like mandatory DNA testing before accepting paternity. If not provided, you can later back out. If doctors mislead you, lawsuit slam dunk.

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  43. ObamaCare is good for sluts! The pic is priceless.

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  44. Am I the only one who suspects that Pyscho-Therapy (and analysis) is as fraudulent as Eighteenth Century Mesmerism or for that matter Nineteenth Century Spiritualism?

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  45. “feminism turns the world into a slut factory.”

    And there was much rejoicing – the simple way to win this game is to play by your own rules. Enjoy women, keep several, and enjoy them on your terms – use them for what they are best used for. Heck, I’m over 50, and have several 20+ year olds at my sexual beck and call. That is what women were made for – and what feminism works to ensure. So enjoy those sweet young things, and trade them in once they get too many miles on them. There are new ones coming on line all the time – enjoy. Just don’t keep anyone too long – get them young, use them up, and move on to another sweet young thing. Rinse and repeat.

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  46. On the flip side this WILL come to a head when the beta/omegas start getting ornery.

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  47. “Good, I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon. Strike me down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the dark side will be complete!”

    CH I thought you hated beta males, and this only makes it easier for alphas to cuckold them. Where are you seeing a problem? That said you seem to also hate feminism, and the cathedral. So many things to hate, so little time.

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  48. “Feminism is the sick, wheezing spawn of its parent ideology, equalism, the belief in a magical flying spaghetti monster that imbues all humans with equal ability and equal worth…”

    No, this is not what feminism is about.

    Feminism cloaks itself in equalist rhetoric. But it is really a ruse to grab power and systematically subjugate the interests of men to the interests of women.

    Recently I read George Orwell’s “Animal Farm.” The parallels between communism and feminism are uncanny. As are Orwell’s comments about how the MSM censored itself in criticism of Stalin/communism, erm I mean censored itself in criticism of feminsim.

    “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

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  49. “Feminism is the sick, wheezing spawn of its parent ideology, equalism, the belief in a magical flying spaghetti monster that imbues all humans with equal ability and equal worth…”

    No, this is not what feminism is about.

    Feminism cloaks itself in equalist rhetoric. But it is really a ruse to grab power and systematically subjugate the interests of men to the interests of women.

    Recently I read George Orwell’s “Animal Farm.” The parallels between communism and feminism are uncanny. As are Orwell’s comments about how the MSM censored itself in criticism of Stalin/communism, erm I mean censored itself in criticism of feminsim.

    “All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.”

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    • Not bad, but needs few touches:

      Feminism cloaks itself in equalist rhetoric. But it is really a ruse to grab power and systematically subjugate the interests of 99.99% of men to the interests of women, for the benefit of the 0.01% of males that make up the power elite.

      There I fixed it for you.

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  50. […] Feminism is the sick, wheezing spawn of its parent ideology, equalism, the belief in a magical flyin… […]

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  51. I have always been faithful in relationships because I’m honorable–regardless of how the man acts. If I made you a promise, then I keep it. Honor is not a situational attribute. A friend of mine and his wife entered into an open relationship, and she brought her Dom over to their house and had sex in their bed with their children home on a Friday night while he was still at work. She left him with his son and her daughter from a previous relationship. She had asked him and her Dom to plan a “rape” of her while she was out running. Another friend of mine’s husband asked her to swing (she’s really beautiful and thin), and when they went to the clubs, she said she just couldn’t imagine having sex with any of these unattractive men and didn’t want to be a swinger. So she divorced him. Some people are just REALLY screwed up, and you have to run in the other direction as fast as possible.

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  52. […] article: “The Feminist Push to Sanction Female Infidelity” (from Heartiste, a PUA) Its inspiration: “The Upside of Infidelity: Can an Affair Save Your […]

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  53. […] THE FEMINIST PUSH to Sanction Female Infidelity. […]

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  54. What a bunch of garbage. You’re the one trying to justify infidelity, but for men only, while feigning outrage at the thought women might cheat.

    You don’t get much, do you?

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    • The outrage is real… for reasons covered here and elsewhere ad nauseum… if you took but a moment to look and learn, instead of flapping your yap with the usual suspect Cathedral shaming litany.

      Here’s the crash course: Sperm cheap, eggs dear.

      You cunt.

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      • Ad nauseum is right. Self justifying garbage repeated incessantly is still garbage. Biology is not destiny, unless your dick is bigger than your brain.

        Here’s the crash course: You asshole, women flee.

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  55. on November 18, 2013 at 11:15 pm John T. Rollins

    You seem pretty convinced that you’re an “alpha male” and curiously proud of it. Funny, because if you actually look around, you’ll see almost everyone in any kind of enviable position in life is decidedly beta. This is the 21st century. We are humans, not gorillas. Grow up and stop watching cartoons boy. “Alpha” humans are mostly uneducated knuckleheads whom only vacuous bimbos would willingly fuck. What self-respecting woman wants her offspring brought up by a fucking welder/laborer/bodybuilder primate?

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