Attention Whore Hyperactivity Disorder

Roosh’s post about the future of game brought to mind a trend in female behavior regarding girls and their self-perceived value shooting through the roof thanks to relentless male attention from social network sites and online dating.

Thought experiment: imagine two girls with an objective beauty rank of 6. Which girl will have a higher opinion of her attractiveness to men?

a. A rural girl without internet access who does not have an online presence and has only received flirtatious attention from a handful of men who live in her town?

b. A thoroughly modernized and plugged-in girl with a Facebook account that she posts photos to every day which gather comments from twenty different men, a Twitter account with a hundred male followers who read her every passing inane thought, and a Match.com online profile that receives emails from hundreds of horny men on a weekly basis?

You can see where this is going. It would be a miracle if girl (b) didn’t delude herself that she was a 7, or maybe even an 8, and behave accordingly. Conversely, there is a good chance girl (a) perceives herself having lower value than she does, because of the paucity of male feedback.

It’s long been a contention of this blog that a girl’s attractiveness level is objectively self-evident; that is, that girls intuitively know what their ranking is without men to offer feedback. They have mirrors after all. But because the female mind is a mushily pliable organ, and because so much of the female prefrontal cortex is immersed in the job of spinning self-delusions (spin hamster spin!), it stands to reason that a modern, technological context — within which instafame and the amplified sexual barter that flow from it are only a click away — could conceivably sever the holy link between mirror and female self-assessment.

There is evidence that this is happening today in the West on a scale unknown in all of history. Thanks to Facebook and all the online dating sites, women are the recipients of more male flattery and solicitude (however insincere or inept) than they know what to do with, and this is as true for the hotties as it is for the middling plain janes. (The ugly girls continue to find no relief in the celebritizing factory of the internet; their parched romantic ostracism remains intractable.) The result of this massive, all-encompassing meddling with the gluttonous female ego will be a dark pink world of entitled, demanding princesses holding unrealistic standards and bullet point checklists a mile long.

A woman come of age in this world is a ravenous beast who has had a tube of sunshine shoved up her asshole and an IV of Megan Fox attitude pumping her full of unicorn rainbow buttercup gas.

What sane man would want to deal with that?

Enter game. How do you handle a woman who thinks she is God’s gift to men?

You knock her bloated opinion of herself down a few notches.

And how do you do this?

You qualify her. You make demands of her. You extract compliance from her. You tease her. You neg her. You deny her expectations until her lust is so overpowering you may as well have paralyzed her with your supersecret magnum look.

In other words, you flip the seduction script so that she is chasing you.

Old-fashioned men who speak in stentorian tones about a man’s duty to god, family, country and his obligation to resist the pull of degenerate hedonism cannot fathom this steely-eyed view of seduction and women and why it is more necessary now than ever. It is all Greek to them. “Too late to start the training…”

The fame laboratory that is the internet has produced a generation of women high on themselves. Has there ever been a time when the neg — also formally known as the backhanded compliment — was more suited for the social milieu in which it operates than now? Obesity is to blame for game, yes, but now we can add another variable to the cause of the rise of game: online dating and social network sites. Want a recipe for maximizing marginally attractive women’s egos and fueling their self-delusions about their sexual worth? Combine an ever-fattening female population with the attention whoring of online social networking, mix liberally with desperately horny men latching onto any semi-slender chick, and you’ve got a dating scene that mercilessly cuts betaboys off at the knees and rewards the biggest jerks who are expert at pinpricking those inflated ego balloons.

If present trends are future projections, this crisis of the expanding female ego + waistline is only going to get worse. It is easy to foresee a toxic dating environment where the majority of girls — marbled throughout with chubsters — become unapproachable, ballbusting bitches who retreat to the reassuring confines of the online dating sites, Facebook, blogs and news magazines when their egos suffer a minor setback in the field.

*Field -noun
1. the world formerly known as real life; a world characterized by living, breathing humans aware of subtle changes in tone and facial expression.
2. a world notably free of duckbill poses.

Here is a prediction: the more women organize their lives around Facebook and online dating, the harder it will be to game them in real life. And the uglier that women get in body and soul, the more they will turn to the internet for their flattery fix. It’s a vicious feedback loop. You see, real life has some big disadvantages. One, it’s not as good at hiding physical flaws. Two, it’s an uncontrolled environment.

On Facebook, chicks can manage their human interactions with the precision of a German machinist. Every picture, every word, every like or dislike, the timing of replies and the length of ASCII conversations — all are under the user’s complete control in the virtual world. The uncertainties of fleshly communication, with its judging eyes scanning bodies top to bottom and its unexpected quips that shatter expectation, are rendered obsolete. In the electronic social networking world, the woman and her prerogatives are preeminent.

There is one countermeasure that can keep this growing monster in check: face to face interaction. Only when the 4s, 5s and 6s confront the vicious reality of men ignoring them in clubs and at parties for the hotter, skinnier babes, will we see their egos fall back to earth (and concurrently, their personalities improve). This is a call to arms. Men need to walk away from Facebook and online dating sites and force these chicks back into the harsh Klieg lights of the primal mating field where the frontlines of cold, pitiless judgement are everywhere. It is as much a man’s destiny to humble women as it is to build civilizations.

Want to intrigue a girlfriend until her love for you is all-consuming? Stay off Facebook. Refuse to abide her Craven New World.

A brutally long, hard economic contraction might restabilize the dating market. How ironic, given that our current troubles are largely the result of handing women the vote.





Comments


  1. Great post and very much true about the current state of girls. This is a great example of why online dating is truly pointless for guys. Even if you get a girl to go out with you, there are 100 other suitors waiting in the wings. She’ll end up picking no one.

    “The ugly girls continue to find no relief in the celebritizing factory of the internet”

    The threshold of ugly has taken a dive. Even the uglies and fatties will find followers to boost their egos. Because those hundreds of guys sending the messages can’t pick up even the 6’s, they are settling for even less.

    Online girls will also often pick the betas because of the offers – dinner, flowers, gifts, even money. Any girl on an online dating site can not only eat for free every day, but probably give up her day job too. Of course she wont bang these guys, but that what stop her from garnering the attention and taking the gifts.

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  2. Old-fashioned men who speak in stentorian tones about a man’s duty to god, family, country and his obligation to resist the pull of degenerate hedonism cannot fathom this steely-eyed view of seduction and women and why it is more necessary now than ever.

    The problem with many chipmunk-cheeked conservatives is that they take the availability of women for granted. That was the case when they were at Yale in the fifties. They have no idea that all that Family, God and Honor stuff can’t happen until you get the girl, today something you need Game for.

    Online girls will also often pick the betas because of the offers – dinner, flowers, gifts, even money.

    Could this call for a beta-bait-and-switch Game? As long as you don’t come off as a creep or a loser, lure her with plausible beta-supplicant approach — in other words, promise of free dinner — but when you meet, turn on normal alpha Game?

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  3. Meh…this post isn’t accurate. This works both ways…a lot of guys who are desperatly in need of game hide behind the internet and controlled interactions also.

    And I’ve never understood the whole aversion to Match. Sure its a numbers game and probably not as solid as just having strong game “in the field” but any guy with a half a brain can get laid off of match. Even in my AFC days I could find a new lay every other month just by pounding it out on Match.

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  4. staying online also makes these women fat. if they turned off the social networking, they could use that free time on the stair master. the Internet has killed us all.

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  5. “On Facebook, chicks can manage their human interactions with the precision of a German machinist. Every picture, every word, every like or dislike, the timing of replies and the length of ASCII conversations — all are under the user’s complete control in the virtual world.”

    Another transition that has benefited the female ego is the transition from phone to texting. Texting is a tool that they use to seprate the alphas from the betas based on subtle things, things that most men will never pick up on.

    Response time
    Length of Response
    Suble word choices
    Puncuation

    Tiny pieces of information that would a woman would never had back when a man just used a 30 second phone call to setup a date.

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  6. One of my female friends and I both tried out match. While I thought I was doing well (well-written, witty profile and my devilishly good looks) with some ~200 views, 5 winks, and 10 messages after a week. I’d say I’m a low 7.

    My friend, a 6 on a good day, brought in close to 1000 views, 30 messages, and 40 winks. This girl was deluded about her perceived value even befoer that. She once asked me where she ranked, and avoiding a confrontation, I said “maybe an 8”. She responded, “ONLY AN 8?!?” and all hell broke loose. I rest my case.

    Also note most women on those sites filter out all men under 5’10” or so in their searches. 7.5’s and above can be expected to require a 6’1″ or taller…even if they themselves are only 5’2″.

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  7. I’ve seen too many facebook comments where guy friends ,of a girl showing pics of herself, say things like.

    “dang, grl you’re so hot”

    “Sooooooooooooo beautiful”

    “Shake that thing”

    “Perfect ass!”

    Guys need to shut the deuce up, and silently bate to the pic if they must, not splooge their dumb ego boosting comments.

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  8. Plus there’s more room for religious nuttery. I’ve mentioned before that a minor problem in Eastern Europe is American religious sects wooing young women to be “one of them” in order for them to get a sense of belonging. This can include a ridiculous notion that there’s a fellow religious nut waiting to find her and marry her via her particular sect’s vast electronic network.

    The Internet causes men to expand their horizons but it can seriously cause young females to narrow things down to some ridiculous notion that maturity and a few extra pounds will destroy soon enough.

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  9. I still really don’t get the surprise and dismay at things being different for girls and guys on match: In a bar, girls are going to get approached more and sucessful guys are going to have to do a lot of approaches. Same with match. Its hardly a mystery. And as to the guy above, part of your problem may have been your “witty” profile. Your witty jokes were probably pretty lame and beta. don’t be funny through text (message, email, profile, etc)/

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  10. Also…one last post…for what its worth a big key to sucess with online game (if you want to call it that) is never acknolwedging anything about the girl. Never compliment a picture or say somethign about you two both liking the same type of dog or music or food…keep it short and coldly simply: “How was your week? We should get a drink sometime.”

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  11. Does this not lend to the fact that women are overvalued and have too much self-esteem because of the attention they receive? And as a society, the longer it’s enabled to happen the worse things get? When all the focus is turned towards getting women because they are so out of whack, then what energy is left for keeping the flow of things outside of women continuing? Especially if those in charge of it are the one’s being shunned even though they’d provide many women with great lives.

    Many women don’t need to be enabled, they need to be put in their place. Remember guys, women are not the catch in most economic levels, the men are. Yet the upper class women with educations, careers, money, and influence who are truly independent are the one’s ensuring many women will live in squalor because they are being force fed a lie. These women are better directed towards finding a provider rather than living out their lives thinking they don’t need men. Otherwise they’ll end up on the government dole and in poverty.

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  12. A woman come of age in this world is a ravenous beast who has had a tube of sunshine shoved up her asshole and an IV of Megan Fox attitude pumping her full of unicorn rainbow buttercup gas.
    Now that’s poetry at its best!

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  13. less physical sex, more ego-boosting relationship schmaltz.

    customary pic:

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  14. the same girl (a)–girl (b) dichotomy exists in the field.

    girl (a) spends her youth obsessed with her studies and labors for a university sports team. Girl (B) works as a bartender or hotel receptionist.

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  15. Madras…you’re wrong there. False assumptions bro, thanks for taking a shot at me though. There was nothing beta in my profile.

    A guy getting 10 messages in a week (without having sent any first) is actually a pretty good accomplishment. Anyone who says otherwise is either a)full of of shit or b) good enough in the looks department that he doesn’t need to waste time online.

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  16. Sheppard’s account the mating and dating scene in Amsterdam is a journey from innocence to experience. By the looks of things at first in the city, it seems to be an easy going town where anything is possible. Marijuana and prostitution are legal, the age of consent is 12 (sort of), and the populace is seemingly liberal. Sheppard eventually finds out that this is the ultimate “Womanstown” in which the females are all tease and no please. Most of the $ex has been commercialized and what little $ex is doled out bit by bit to males who are willing to commit to long term relationship and conform to the desires of the female at all times. Women have total control of the men and how the relationship will proceed.

    http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Ambiguity-Development-Behaviour-Procedural/dp/1901240169

    Excerpts here:
    http://www.heretical.com/main.html#directory

    Also how female behavior and racial differences are related.

    Also women resent the ambiguous behavior from men because it throws them off their own game.

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  17. most common comment from my 10 gf (dating from 19 – 22)

    “everything thinks I am gorgeous except for you…… what is your problem? are you trying to damage my ego?

    reply: pause….. wait……. “i’m picky”

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  18. Another Facebook girl thing:

    Girls post status updates that include ambiguous references to our situation or things we have done together or talked about. I read it as classic female indirect passive-aggressiveness “pay attention to me! send me a message!”

    I have ignored all posts and will not acknowledge that I even look at her facebook profile. It seems to be working at this time.

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  19. on September 30, 2010 at 11:52 am gunslingergregi

    Why you got to be the interloper and bust up in her group.

    Be the one to fuck her not worship her.

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  20. on September 30, 2010 at 11:55 am gunslingergregi

    Just need to legalize prostitution with red light districts in every town and import woman.

    The woman will very quickly know their worth.

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  21. 5 minutes of facetime in a bar with pussy tells even the dimmest man that the Princess ‘Tude has run rampant to the point of decay.

    This is your full explanation for Snooki.

    Reality is, being an Asshole to hbs is not the Open Sesame that Game droids lead you to believe.

    People used to getting their asses kissed like to keep it that way.

    [Editor: Not from the men they want to fuck.]

    This is not 1960.
    Don Draper’s Dead

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  22. … of a German machinist

    I couln’t help but notice that peculiar phrase.

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  23. I don’t think online dating is that skewed from normal interactions with the population in an urban setting; people and men boost your ego anyway. You know in real life for specific male attention that is exclusively for egoboosting can be obtained simply by wearing something sexy.

    Yes, something like match.com or facebook can augment that effect by sheer accessibility and overwhelming numbers, but especially with something like facebook are males you interact with everyday anyway who respond the same offline as online.

    It’s a social, cultural problem of lack of Game that translates into all spheres. Not only lack of Game, but holding self-esteem as sacred. These girls would have perspective — which is noting whether they’re attracting attention from men they actually desire or men who are of sufficient status in their eyes — if they were told honestly about their attractiveness early on, starting with their own family. Not in a hypercritical manner, but in a way that keeps it all in perspective.

    Simply resigning from the online world is refusing to move with the times and use all resources available to you. Game can be adapted to every setting.

    I contend that it can be easier online, simply because so many others tend to do it wrong. The game of numbers doesn’t just work for making women allegedly harder to game, but also makes it easier for you to approach many as a supplement to your normal activity.

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  24. on September 30, 2010 at 12:08 pm Ammonium Nitrate

    Yes, men who obsequiously respond to every social network post and photo, like a pathetic beta crying out to be in friend zone, contributes greatly to the woman’s inflated sense of self-worth. But there’s no way to stop pathetic men who are happy being pathetic. Modern females aren’t the only ones who have hamsters running wild in their heads.

    And yes, Game can, like aikido, use this inflated sense of self-worth against the modern female, and lead to kills. But the calories are as empty as the soul of the victim and the deeper hunger remains unfulfilled.

    The solution? To make females unnecessary for the release of sexual tension. Omegas and the Japanese are leading the way, helping to fund the advancement of a functional sex doll/android. Sure, the best we have now are Real Dolls, but self-powered (and self-cleaning) robots who will eagerly fulfill every desire are on the horizon. And when that day comes, Game will no longer be needed. Betas will no longer genuflect to female friends, and women will find themselves alone in the bar on ladies night. Then the true revolution will arrive!

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  25. on September 30, 2010 at 12:08 pm gunslingergregi

    Guys just need to realize their worth as well by travelling and understanding how you create yourself to be valuable as a man.

    Guys are to busy kissing ass and following the ruleset engineered to make them good worker ants.

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  26. on September 30, 2010 at 12:10 pm gunslingergregi

    Instead of grabbing life in their hand and creating what they want out of it.

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  27. nice paper you attached. the crisis is makes women more compliant as fiscal tightening takes toll. paper pushing is not going to pay your bill in future.

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  28. interesting, I’ve made or reiterated the point that there’s always a market for cooter, there’s now a corollary with the interwebs that this marketplace has now gotten more efficient. So, just as the divorce horror stories and the (now dormant) BotM series has shown, some haggard, whale harpies will happily divorce their gormless husbands to shack up with the gardener. The six you’re dating can now upsell or short the market with ease.

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  29. b. A thoroughly modernized and plugged-in girl with a Facebook account that she posts photos to every day which gather comments from twenty different men

    Thankfully my attention whore has taken to posting pics of the two of us on FB along with infatuated comments, and has declared herself “in a relationship”. If she is going to be the center of male adulation, at least she’s doing it in a way that makes all the young boys cry.

    She does love the camera.

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  30. You can’t be a mystery if you’re on Facebook, unless you do absolutely nothing with your account. And then what’s the point in having one? Unless you’re an actual celebrity and use FB or Twitter to hook up with female followers wherever you go after they send you pics.

    I deleted mine months ago and haven’t looked back.

    One of my favorite FB memories, though, was when an HB 9 I know accidentally (or not) changed her relationship status from “in one” to “single.” A cadre of betas suddenly responded with cheers and comments to that one stroke of they keyboard. When she corrected it, she had to add, “settle down, guys.” Altogether it was a pathetic display of pedestalization. Of course that can happen in real life too, but on Facebook the propensity to submit and give undue attention is far too prevalent and easy.

    Incidentally, while I’ve never sealed the deal with that 9, I always negged her when I talked to her. She eats it up.

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  31. on September 30, 2010 at 12:10 pm gunslingergregi

    Guys just need to realize their worth as well by travelling and understanding how you create yourself to be valuable as a man.

    Guys are to busy kissing ass and following the ruleset engineered to make them good worker ants.

    Instead of grabbing life in their hand and creating what they want out of it.

    Dude, that’s why the Mexicans are fleeing their own country. It’s why they’re dying for drugs and why they live in squalor. All for the attention of women but they’re going about it completely the wrong way.

    There has to be social structure and hierarchy in society and it cannot be based upon one’s incessant need to garner the attention of women in areas that don’t benefit it as a whole. We can’t have a society of gamers, thugs, and PUA’s getting sex and others who did the RIGHT thing and made something of themselves shunned.

    The society you want it going to be one where no one values human life. Oh I forgot, we’re already there.

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  32. PA

    Could this call for a beta-bait-and-switch Game?

    I’ve pulled the good old bait and switch a few times. Act like I’m all about being the girls sponsor with a nice monthly stipend. Then once she’s fallen, she gets nothing but food, or room and board. And the occasional dress and pair of shoes.

    By then they are hooked.

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  33. It’s all fair though. Girls are viscous and cold gamers, and will extract every last drop of blood from you. Nothing better than to game a gamer. And girls are pretty much all born gamers.

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  34. 1. delete your facebook account

    2. http://www.heretical.com/toa/toa-s30x.html

    3. the coming economic hard times is really going to throw a kink into female power. reality > gina tingles. there will be much less demand for most female jobs, and females will be shit out of luck.

    read zerohedge to keep updated on how horrible our economy is, easily the best financial news out there

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  35. on September 30, 2010 at 12:51 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’Government can make direct wealth transfers not only through taxes
    and expenditures but also through the assignment of legal rights
    and regulations. Women obviously have a self-interest from restricting
    alimony only to women and allowing it to be granted permanently.
    Indeed, estimating similar but not reported regressions to
    those in previous tables confirms both of these predictions. Women
    also dominated the temperance movement, and we find strong evidence
    that suffrage directly led to passage of prohibition laws.
    ””””

    From cr link.

    Bitches always trying to control us and not let us have any fun god forbid we enjoyed ourselves.

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  36. Pity for them that the fat girl angle shot doesn’t work in meatspace.

    Don’t flirt with girls online. Make your online presence as mysterious and elusive as possible. Leave her friend requests hanging for weeks, months. Redouble your efforts where the betaboys can’t keep up, real life.

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  37. @firepower,

    I disagree. People used to getting their asses kissed are awestruck at anyone who does not.

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  38. on September 30, 2010 at 12:54 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’The society you want it going to be one where no one values human life. Oh I forgot, we’re already there.”””

    Fuck no I want to save up another 111k so I can make 36k a year and do what I want.

    I believe guys should be working hard saving money until they don’t have to do shit and can enjoy themselves.

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  39. on September 30, 2010 at 12:55 pm gunslingergregi

    Not to many guys will hence why not much competition for me later anywhere.

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  40. on September 30, 2010 at 1:00 pm gunslingergregi

    I agree with dropping out of system in comfort ya just feel a little guilty is all. he he he

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  41. All the more reason to only date women (preferably from other countries) that haven’t been infected by teh internets.

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  42. I usually put women in limited profile and if I’m interested in them I ignore them, no comments no poking no whatever
    however from time to time I do deliver a good combackline on their “flashy” photos
    ex:

    flashy photo of her with lots of comments
    I put:
    “Don’t listen to what anyone tells you, you look cute”
    or
    “dont believe what people say, you look great”

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  43. on September 30, 2010 at 1:03 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””There has to be social structure and hierarchy in society and it cannot be based upon one’s incessant need to garner the attention of women in areas that don’t benefit it as a whole. We can’t have a society of gamers, thugs, and PUA’s getting sex and others who did the RIGHT thing and made something of themselves shunned. ””””

    I think western can go ahead and man that helm while some of us enjoy ourselves guilt free.

    Give the woman a chance to prove themselves get in and get out of their way.

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  44. on September 30, 2010 at 1:06 pm gunslingergregi

    lol how the fuck can you be shunned if you made something of yourself?

    Need to make something of yourself and go to a place where you are not shunned sounds like smart move to me.

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  45. on September 30, 2010 at 1:08 pm gunslingergregi

    The whole point is being in west is a great place to save money and work hard. Not a great place to get woman.

    Seems like simple shit here for what a man should do.

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  46. Bhetti-
    “Simply resigning from the online world is refusing to move with the times and use all resources available to you. Game can be adapted to every setting.”

    If you are a man of below average height (ie., 50% of all men), I don’t think it matters how hot your pics are, how buff your bod, or how charming your profile; you will be far better served by investing your energies in day game or whatever other avenues you have for face-to-face interactions with women than you are with online dating.

    Can’t provide a link, but this has been tested; someone put two identical profiles out there on match.com, one with the guy’s height listed at six feet and later, the ad was changed to show a height of 5’8″; the shorter version got almost zero winks and unsolicited emails (the few that did roll in were disproportionately fatties), as well as a logarithmic difference in the response rate to the man’s outbound emails.

    IMO, online game is a waste of time for all but the best looking men who are also above average in height.

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  47. I think the greatest indicator of the state of modern society is the rise of social media. If you haven’t seen it yet, I highly recommend seeing The Social Network due out in theaters soon. This is a perfect microcosm for how globalized western society has developed. A world of social maladapts have been given EXACTLY what they want form a fellow social retard (also a borderline omega seeking a GF); a comfortable (and misguided) sense of semi-anonymity combined with the self-gratification of being able to invent ones own (or multiple) personas.

    Social media is the god-send buffer women have sought for centuries. It’s like porn is for men, all reward and zero accountability.

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  48. on September 30, 2010 at 1:18 pm gunslingergregi

    I got two hot woman in line to marry me.

    What the fuck makes me so special lol

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  49. on September 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm gunslingergregi

    Numerous bitches in states who would marry me.

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  50. People used to getting their asses kissed like to keep it that way.

    [Editor: Not from the men they want to fuck.]

    Perhaps, yet if the extensive [and ever-growing] rancidity of the female spirit portrayed in your article is any indication, that “want” part is increasingly diminishing.

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  51. on September 30, 2010 at 1:21 pm gunslingergregi

    Get your shit together fellas and be choosy.

    Men are the ones that woman desperatly need.

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  52. Here lies a toppled goddess —
    Her fall was not a small one.
    We did but build her pedestal,

    A narrow and tall one.

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  53. on September 30, 2010 at 1:34 pm gunslingergregi

    Guys may get desperate with no pussy but if you have money you can fly to amsterdam and stay there.

    Smoke herb fuck and chill.

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  54. This process was put in place a long while back when men and women started consorting in bars and places of leisure. Those places became leks for men on the prowl who would inevitably boost womens’ status as a way into their pants. Funny that, given that womens’ pants are best entered when they think the man she’s letting in is of higher status than her.

    Plus the social standards of modesty which kept men from complimenting women in any outward way.

    Men engaged in a race to the bottom, shooting each other and thereby themselves in the foot along the way. Game has provided a means whereby men get together and counteract that in order to turn the tide.

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  55. “It is easy to foresee a toxic dating environment where the majority of girls — marbled throughout with chubsters — become unapproachable, ballbusting bitches who retreat to the reassuring confines of the online dating sites, Facebook, blogs and news magazines when their egos suffer a minor setback in the field.”

    Sounds like urban Canadian women…..to a tee.

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  56. One of the best posts I’ve read. It hits the nail and makes it it’s bitch.

    My wife’s friends fit this to a T. One of her friends, a decent 7 if she didn’t pierce everything, uses Photoshop on a daily basis and still gets a ton of compliments despite the obvious manipulation. Its sad she’s a skank because gaming her would be quite fun, but she’s currently banging a ugly cunt-beta couple and probably has a few diseases. My wife’s other friend does the same control of all pictures of her on Facebook, but she’s only a 6 on a very good day. But since my interactions with good looking women are rare (I work with truckers and my coworker is a 3.5) I’m gaming her for practice. Should be “fun” to see where this goes….

    Fuck Facebook. I should quit it.

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  57. who started facebook? THE JEW

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  58. on September 30, 2010 at 1:54 pm Professor Woland

    The interesting thing about the internet, is that is does not stop at the border. In my case, I went to Russia, and deep inside Russia, to find a babe and bring her back. It is like fishing with dynamite. Or as I like to say, the chicks value goes up 1 point each time zone you travel east of Moscow. Sure, she thinks I talk a little funny, but hey.

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  59. I want some

    “face to face interaction”

    with your

    “mushily pliable organ.”

    That’s right.

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  60. Death vajra

    @firepower,

    I disagree. People used to getting their asses kissed are awestruck at anyone who does not.

    While entirely true in principal, in generalized practice, this tactic is an exaggeration promoted by those with much to gain from expectant audiences: PUA gurus and Hollywood.

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  61. Guys in the military have been dealing with the same crap forever with military chicks, not only from what is described here but also the 5:1 ratio of males to females. FYI 5:1 is the best in the services with the AF being 20% female. The other services just get worse from there.

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  62. i think the answer is day game and social circle game. women constantly have their bitch shields up in bars and clubs and cutting through all the background noise online is a losing battle.

    luckily, most men are too shy to approach women on the street and herbish enough to got constantly LJBF’d. these are the two places were game gives you the chance to stand out from the crowd. approaching durung the day, as long as it’s not weird or creepy, demonstrates boldness and value.

    and in terms of social circles, flip the script; cultivate harems and female orbiters. if you hook up with a girl, immediately make it known that you’re not looking for anything serious and that you see other girls. here’s where facebook can actually be very helpful for men. you know that any girl who meets you is going to go online and find out as much as she can about you. if you use facebook correctly, you can both display value and remain mysterious at the same time.

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  63. Vodka, I want

    Didn’t your mom tell you about “pretty please”?

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  64. great post – 370k views for this -10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VsXe3Pu1fE

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  65. Men need not only retreat from Facebook and internet dating sites, but from pickup venues like bars and clubs. They should make themselves unavailable synchronically. Which will not happen because most of them are not real men, to the extent that they cannot even control their microscopic balls.

    Otherwise, the best advice fro men is to start carrying guns.

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  66. Roissy,
    The Facebook and internet effect is worldwide not just in the west (except maybe in Congo? or Papua New Guinea?).

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  67. Morsellaux

    Vodka, I want

    Didn’t your mom tell you about “pretty please”?

    that maxim does not apply to her: she has big cans

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  68. on September 30, 2010 at 2:34 pm Timothy Webster

    @j r

    Can you nail down a good definition of what is “wierd or creepy”? I’d like to see a whole blog entry dedicated to it. Or of it is already covered somewhere, please show me where.

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  69. True story, one of my Facebook “friends” is a Hot Taiwanese 29 year old who is into pole dancing. She posts pictures of herself in suspenders, and g-strings to all her “friends”.

    One day she went to a local pole dancing competition and posted a video of her and her friends chair-dancing. It was slutty slutty…4 inch platform shoes and 7″ heels, garters, shaking the ass, boustier…it was slutty.

    All her beta provider “Friends” commented: “you look hot” “wow”.

    I wrote: “That reminds me, my dining room needs new chairs, those Ikea?”

    She replied in a minute: “hahahaha, yes, yes”

    That was it. She wanted me to chase her and I didn’t.

    Facebook and online game tends to work best when:

    1) it’s fresh
    2) you have a connection in real life
    3) you’ve already generated attraction so the allure of your comments can spark more intrigue.

    On the other hand, funny comments like mine to hot babes only flatter her ego and nothing more.

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  70. Can you nail down a good definition of what is “wierd or creepy”?

    in the context of a street approach it just means being bold enough to start and maintain conversation, but not so forward that you’re a lech.

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  71. Can’t wait till they turn those ‘proximity’ chat rooms into an app for iphones.

    welcome to hell.

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  72. on September 30, 2010 at 2:53 pm Timothy Webster

    I notice a lot of you guys use terms like “kino”, “push-pull”, and so on. Is there one or two books on “Game” that you have all read and are referring to? I’ve seen some references to Roosh, and to Mystery Method. Are these two books the pre-requisites to getting the most out of Roissy blog?

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  73. Texting is a tool that they use to seprate the alphas from the betas based on subtle things, things that most men will never pick up on.

    Response time
    Length of Response
    Suble word choices
    Puncuation

    Tiny pieces of information that would a woman would never had back when a man just used a 30 second phone call to setup a date.

    Why play their game? Can’t you just ignore texts or tell them “Texting’s not really my thing” in a tone that indicates that it’s infantile and beneath you?

    The smart general never fights on the ground of his enemy’s choosing.

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  74. Firepower

    Morsellaux

    Vodka, I want

    Didn’t your mom tell you about “pretty please”?

    that maxim does not apply to her: she has big cans

    Knock yourself out.

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  75. Facebook. Nope.
    Texting–Lacedaimonoi (–laconic) were wordy fuckers.

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  76. if one can give me concussion, that is standard i measure by

    prost

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  77. j r

    Can you nail down a good definition of what is “wierd or creepy”?

    just re-read The_king’s posts to lilgrl and aoefe

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  78. Timothy Webster, you need a dictionary first ( http://www.pualingo.com/pua-definitions/ ) and then apply generously the search facility on this site to elucidate further.

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  79. Firepower, lotsa knockers around everywhere.

    skol

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  80. on September 30, 2010 at 3:23 pm Timothy Webster

    Morsellaux, thank you. So, no “manual” somewhere I need to buy… goody!

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  81. The post is pretty accurate. Online dating and social networking have blown womens’ perceived values into the stratosphere. Result? More and more women postpone settling down because her options seem limitless. When the 30-something fatty goes into the real world to secure a commitment, she discovers too late that the options were an illusion.

    @ Sox
    I agree – any guy who is a getting a number of unsolicited messages every week on an online dating site it doing pretty well.

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  82. You guys/gals talking about match.com must be hideous.

    I am 42, under 6′, and have 8,500 views since 4/1, and banged 5 women; and passed up another 5, <6s

    Game is a #s game.

    Every PUA, snake oil-salesman, author, blogger will drone on about frame, kino, etc.

    Bottom line is if you converse with 1000 women in 6 months you will get laid. Doesnt matter if its face to face, email, txt, sms. If you can get their attention, set up a date, and strike out 99% of the time you will still bang 10 girls.

    Case in point:

    I had a match Latina, 25, 7 txt me for over a month. I blew her off….she even came out and said "stop ignoring me 🙂 !"

    -Last nite she said she got a new camera. I told here to take a Bikini pic (75% of Match pics have bikinis).

    -She says she has none.

    -I tell her to take a lingerie pic, "I am willing to accept that as a an exception"; few hours go by. Pic shows up of her huge booty at midnight.

    -I tell her to show me front. White bra pic shows up.

    – I tell her to show me panty.

    -Pic of her sheer panty with vulva/lips straining fabric is there.

    -I tell her: "Slip it off"

    -20 mins nothing.

    -She says to show me.

    -I delay.

    -Pic of her shaved pussy shows up.

    -I get an erection take pic (do a close up it makes it 2x, with your toes in back ground); then a 25 sec .mov of me jacking off.

    -She goes nuts, says Im hung (Im normal) and sends 10 pics (i specified specific poses to make sure she is a she) of her clit, pussy, spread, finger fucking & telling me she likes doggie, on kitchen table, etc.

    OK, granted this is 3rd time this has happened out of 1000 chicks I have emailed this yr.

    Neverthless, this was not happening in 2001 with dial-up, 3 inch LCD cell phones, 1 line SMS

    Women want to to be fucked….and technology only improves the chances of that happening.

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  83. on date with a 24 year old 7.5….

    “400 guys emailed me on match…. why should I date you?”

    the phrase is “excessive choice”…

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  84. on September 30, 2010 at 3:52 pm gunslingergregi

    Oh shit lol

    3.5 billion woman in the world why should I let you suck my cock?

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  85. As a fellow of wisdom and experience (I’m much older than you punks) who is dabbling in the world of online dating, I can safely say that women in their 40s and beyond are basically ruined by the online dating attention and the “never settle” attitude.

    It’s also my direct experience that women will certainly share an alpha and not settle for a beta. I try to be dating at least three women concurrently and almost always have two available.

    I am friendly with a female dating coach with a clientele mostly of women over 45. Her advice – delivered very diplomatically – is basically “get the fuck over yourselves and realize you’ve hit the wall in terms of looks and age.” She gets it and her successful clients get it too.

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  86. on September 30, 2010 at 4:00 pm gunslingergregi

    ””’I am friendly with a female dating coach””’

    This is why you need loot when you are older so you can have your very own female dating coach who’s only client is you.

    Silver you should try to also in addition to the internet turn the woman into dating coaches for other woman to date you.

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  87. wow, that Duke whore is … educated. Still better than Michelle Obama’s Princeton senior thesis.

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  88. on September 30, 2010 at 4:01 pm gunslingergregi

    And by date I mean fuck.

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  89. Facebook is for girls.

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  90. @gunslingergregi

    Because Nicole needs an afternoon snack, fat chicks are always hungry for meat.

    Every hot chick negged I banged. Every ugly/fat girl I negged turned into a dyke or killed herself.

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  91. on September 30, 2010 at 4:13 pm Timothy Webster

    @j r

    Are there any resources out there for guys that keeping coming off as a lech, even when they aren’t? I had a woman tell me the other night that she felt like I was undressing her with my eyes. All I did was narrow them and squint a bit, while smiling slightly. I wasn’t thinking of sex AT ALL. Zero desire.

    Do women just project their desire onto the man? The man is “creepy” if she desires him but he leaves her hanging? But that can’t be right, that is what alphas do… and they aren’t “creepy”. Or are they? I’ve heard stories of women reaming out Roosh and Mystery as “creepy”.

    Should a guy just not care if he is creepy, because even creepy guys can play the numbers game and get laid?

    You’ve heard of the “uncanny valley” where computer generated humans are lifelike, but not lifelike enough… so people get creeped. So could it be that creepiness has to do with they sense a duality? For instance, you act alpha, but they sense a bit of the old beta in you two. Like there are two spirits in you. Like you are two people at once; the old beta that you are struggling to kill, and the alpha that you are imprinting into your subconcious?

    Just wondering. As labels go, creepy seems much more damaging than homo, gay, nazi, racist, machist, or other modern smear term.

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  92. on September 30, 2010 at 4:15 pm Timothy Webster

    @Firepower

    Thank you. There is so much to read through… do you remember approximately how long ago The_King made those posts to aoefe and lilgrl?

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  93. on September 30, 2010 at 4:16 pm Timothy Webster

    Or is creepiness making an approach in a situation where the girl might want you, but you’ve done it in a way or situation that it is embarassing for her? No, that doesn’t work either. If she is really attracted to you, she’ll just be embarassed, not creeped out.

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  94. It is as much a man’s destiny to humble women as it is to build civilizations.>>>>

    Sounds like that was lifted from the Koran. Oy.

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  95. LOL, that Duke girl was not only a slut, but a fucking moron for creating that presentation. Did she think it wouldn’t get out? Or was this a sly and effective advertisement for a cuckold boyfriend?

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  96. http://twitter.com/chavezcandanga#

    follow Hugo Chavez on twitter!

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  97. As one your younger readers Roissy I gotta say, this is noble but will simply won’t happen. My generation is OBSESSED with social networking, and this evolution of electronic interaction simply cannot be slowed down. In my personal experience I’ve accepted it without even thinking about it and tend to fall in the camp of guys that try to use it as another medium or aspect of game. And honestly it doesn’t seem to hurt. Many times I’ve had girls I haven’t heard from in forever message me randomly or approach me in person about how they “liked my status the other day” or “noticed I like good music.” Ridiculous!

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  98. The interwebs will only provide a short lived empty confidence boost for women. They’ll still be alone checking updated statuses with burrito in hand at 230 and realize that despite the 9 new mails they got that they are alone for a reason.

    Girls act douchier

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  99. Than ever because everyone does. They grew up spoiled (like every generation whose standard of living rose) and feel entitled.

    See pop culture too. Everything from that’s so raven to sex in the city show confident yet nasty broads

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  100. Silver Fox-
    “You guys/gals talking about match.com must be hideous.
    I am 42, under 6′, and have 8,500 views since 4/1, and banged 5 women; and passed up another 5, <6s"

    My guess is you're 5'11'' pretty good looking, and located in a metropolitan area that is less impacted by the obesity epidemic than most. Just for fun, change your profile to show that you're 5'9"'(or better yet, shorter) and get back to me. I maintain it's an unproductive venue, on a cost/benefit basis, for most men. Especially for men with some modicum of game.

    That said, I've had some success on match (through which I met my #1 current fave, who actually messaged me) and plentyoffish, but, all in all, I prefer the odds at supermarkets. On match, I very rarely got emails or winks from anything above a 5, and the response rate I got on emails I sent was probably 10 or less%. I had a pretty good close ratio, IMO, on the ones I was able to meet with face-to-face. My experience indicates that being 5'8'' is a significantly bigger handicap in the online dating world than it is with in-person meetings.

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  101. @HR Lincoln

    I agree, since women can literally search for guys only a certain height and above, I’m sure that’s a factor. I’m only 5’9″. I’ve gone on a LOT of dates and hooked up with a few, one of which I’m still currently seeking. Overall though I haven’t really liked the sampling from there.

    Especially when I see a hot girl. I immediately think something’s wrong with her. Why would someone who gets hit on regularly in real life need to get it online as well?

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  102. A ‘creep’ is a guy who does not get laid on a regular basis, this is all women are trying to determine early on.

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  103. roissy you gotta comment on the duke thesis

    http://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/gallery/

    notice how all the guys are athletes.

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  104. Don’t go more than a month without real live snatch. Get a hooker. Women need to smell pussy on you.

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  105. “Why would someone who gets hit on regularly in real life need to get it online as well?”

    In the perpetual search for the alpha-knight-in-shining-armor-doctor-Mcdreamy, a girl must cast the widest net possible.

    Or, she’s a complete and utter attention whore and online attention is safer.

    As an aside, I strongly believe that women have four categories for men:

    Hot – I want to fuck him.

    Nice – I want him to move heavy objects for me.

    Creepy – I want him to get the fuck away from me.

    Invisible – All the guys who don’t fit in the above categories.

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  106. A lot of shorter men actually don’t seem as short in person. I’m almost 5’8″ and my husband is about 5’9″ and I never really thought he was too short for me. Often times shorter men have nice, very well proportioned bodies. If I was doing online dating and saw 5’9″ I may have thought it sounded too short, though.

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  107. I wouldn’t want really tall daughters either.

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  108. @TW,
    RTFM.
    there is no “index” here but if you read R’s posts on “game,” things will be easier to understand. Read them and it’ll make things easier.
    Creepy or weird is the ultimate female cutdown. Check your posture and how you dumbly u smile.
    Re: match. I’ve heard that every guy lies about his height, so get to it.

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  109. Excellent commentary on regarding Facebook!

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  110. As an aside, I strongly believe that women have four categories for men:

    Hot – I want to fuck him.

    Nice – I want him to move heavy objects for me.

    Creepy – I want him to get the fuck away from me.

    Invisible – All the guys who don’t fit in the above categories.

    maybe it’s my preference for threes, but i would call creepy more of a qualifier than an actual category. so, the other three categories correspond to alpha, beta and omega, and a guy can be a creepy alpha (think mickey rourke), a creepy beta or a creepy omega. the creepiness just arises whenever a guy gives a woman some vague sense of awkwardness or discomfort. that creepiness can just easily coexist with attraction as it can with revulsion. that being said, i would advise most men to not try creepy game. that takes a special talent.

    i would also add a couple of things to the first two categories:

    alpha/hot – i want to fuck him/have his babies/spend the rest of my life devoted to him

    beta/nice – i want him to lift heavy objects for me/be the shoulder i cry on when the bad boys break my heart/buy me dinner and compliment me to boost my ego/be there to marry me and support my kids when alphas don’t want me anymore

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  111. A lot of shorter men actually don’t seem as short in person. I’m almost 5’8″ and my husband is about 5’9″ and I never really thought he was too short for me.

    that’s because you’re looking at your husband, taking in the total package and liking what you see. unfortunately, that’s not how men are being judged in most situations. most of the time men are judged by the other men around them.

    there was a post a little while back about how women evaluate men differently in one-on-one situations than they do in group settings. in a bar or at a party the 5’9 guy is being compared to all the guys there who are 6′ and over.

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  112. TK, your will is weaker than mine. If you’ve made me a project, it will end badly for you.

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  113. jr,
    Exactly. My husband could have never picked me up in a bar. I wouldn’t have been that impressed by him.

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  114. Practice makes perfect, and persevering on the social dating sites is required, for the refusals and outright ignoring will wear down the strongest.

    Best to keep a balanced life, hope that love/lust comes into your life, but recognize that relying on women for personal happiness is a loser’s game: increasing expectations vs diminishing returns.

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  115. I tried online dating, and only got either kids or crackenatz (guys who are not just old, but decrepit) who think they are still players. It would be great if I was a cougar or a hoe, but I’m neither, so I had to hit the pavement and go man shopping the old fashioned way.

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  116. I’ve partied with micky rourke in Toronto. Sure, he looks like he’s wearing a halloween mask, but every woman’s eyes are on him all night long. He told a stripper he’d ‘make your asshole bleed’, she gave him her number, doubt he called. Anyway, chicks are fucked

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  117. That was @j r

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  118. Has anyone brought up AdultFriendFinder yet? Even with all the fake profile there are still quite a few real one’s, and the majority of these real profiles belong to fat, ugly as sin, entitlement queens. This site also begs the question do black guys have any standards at all when it comes to white women?? And the answer is no.

    I don’t think there is a dating or hook up site out there that even comes close to demonstrating the insanity of the American female quite like AFF does.

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  119. By the way, put a picture of you with at least one celebrity on your Internet dating site and watch what happens.

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  120. Male celebrity of course, You and Taylor swift will not have the same effect 🙂

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  121. Am I the only one who is unable to get to roosh’s website? Every time I get the following website…

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  122. @askjoe

    Mmm. Interesting posts.

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  123. @j r

    many short men exhibit strong alpha characteristics (naploean etc). I’m tall, but I often see little twerps acting like the boss amongst their entourage. Sure, they’d get their asses handed to them, but chicks luv a guy who is convinced he’s better than everyone else.

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  124. Roissy this is the poster gal for attention & real whoring

    Duke Gals fuck list goes viral today !

    http://deadspin.com/5652280/the-full-duke-university-fuck-list-thesis-from-a-former-female-student/gallery/

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  125. Note at Jezel ” Lawyer Gal” says 13 fucks in 4 yrs is “not slutty”

    …proof that 30-60 bangs <25 is the new ho normal

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  126. HR Lincoln
    Ok Cupid compared with average height in the US and thought that people on their site lied by about 2 inches higher on their site.

    So the question is: Must one really have their height publicly on there?

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  127. I really find it strange to characterise facebook as a dating service.

    [Editor: Anywhere there is young pussy and horny men is a dating service.]

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  128. Bhetti,
    Women have no reason to lie about their height, we lie about our age and weight. Men lie about their height and income.

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  129. chicks luv a guy who is convinced he’s better than everyone else.

    true. my point was only that in group situations shorter guys have to prove they’re alpha in order to get attraction, while tall guys get it just by standing there.

    every man should play to his strengths. if you’re tall and ok looking, but a little awkward then your best bet is to be as aloof as possible. if you’re short or fat or not the best looking dude, you’re going to have to make up for it by demonstrating some social mastery.

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  130. […] Attention Whore Hyperactivity Disorder « Citizen Renegade Posted on September 30, 2010 by The LP 999 Attention Whore Hyperactivity Disorder « Citizen Renegade. […]

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  131. HEman

    I’ve seen too many facebook comments where guy friends ,of a girl showing pics of herself, say things like.

    “dang, grl you’re so hot”

    “Sooooooooooooo beautiful”

    “Shake that thing”

    “Perfect ass!”

    Guys need to shut the deuce up, and silently bate to the pic if they must, not splooge their dumb ego boosting comments.

    This. And they’re usually aimed at someone who isn’t even all that hot – certainly nothing special. Narcissists getting their supply is all that is, and even if they got a “ur so hott” from every man (and woman) on the planet, it still wouldn’t be enough.

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  132. The comments about women on some online dating sites screening out any guy who isn’t tall reminds me of my similar experience online.
    Women also set search filters for age.
    That one seems especially dumb to me, because some of us look way younger than we are, with a body more athletic & fit than countless guys way younger.
    But no, idiots assume ALL men age EXACTLY the same, at the same rate, with the same genetics, lifestyle, habits, diet, attitudes, etc.
    Yup, all 40 year olds are equally old, with the exact same capacities, limitations, etc.
    Uh huh. Idiots love simplistic, lazy thinking.
    Ageism is almost as pathetic as racism.

    When we meet a woman randomly out in public, she won’t know our age and won’t be finding out anytime soon.
    Some of the women who will screen you out online for your age
    would bang you
    if they just happen to meet you face to face somewhere, if you have game, plenty to offer, etc.

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  133. “Meh…this post isn’t accurate. This works both ways…a lot of guys who are desperatly in need of game hide behind the internet and controlled interactions also.”

    But that’s the whole point. Betas and omegas, who rarely approach girls in real life, turn to Facebook or online dating to compensate for their shyness. Thus a girl who’s, say, a 6 and rarely gets approached on the street (because she’s beneath the notice of alphas, who are the men usually confident enough to strike up conversations with strangers) will be hit with an avalanche of emails once she goes online. Her sense of self-worth is inflated far beyond what it would be if she limited herself to dates from school, work, and the like.

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  134. Lazy, there’s old and then there’s crackenatz. I like older men, but many older guys think they are hotter than they are, and over 40 it does matter. If you look old, you look like you’re not functioning well below the waist.

    So it’s as important for an older guy to keep fit as it is for a woman because nobody but a hoe wants to do a dude whose dick she can’t even see, and that doesn’t work even when you can see it.

    Nothing wrong with hoes. They do an important service to humanity. It’s just that if a girl is looking for a good time or for a husband, it’s not overly entitled to hope the guy will be able to last for more than a minute without having a stroke.

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  135. @Laura

    Women lie. Period. Always forever.

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  136. I’d say Krauser proves there;s much for the indistinguishable older but not too old guy set, lazy guy.

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  137. Nothing wrong with hoes. They do an important service to humanity.

    Yeah, like shovels.

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  138. Nicole,

    I agree with the points you make, abolutely.
    I’m not saying ‘Take pity, have charity’. Nope.
    You paint a picture of extreme age/inability.

    I’m talking about a man looking about as old and fit as Harrison Ford looked in Temple of Doom or Witness, when he was 42, 43 years old.

    When a man looking like that gets automatically rejected (online or elsewhere) by a woman who is 30 (or older) because of his age, it shows either pathetic “thinking” on the part of those women, or else they require a man who shares 99% of their pop culture addictions and references.
    Or perhaps these women want a man who is so young and inexperienced that she will probably find it easy to control him completely, about like she would a pet dog.

    I realize, some silly reasons for rejection disqualify the one doing the rejecting as being too foolish to be worth any of one’s time.
    However it still seems a shame for potentially powerful matches to be preempted by foolish decision making habits.

    Oh well. The search for the rare exceptions continues.

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  139. Askjoe, you said

    “I’d say Krauser proves there;s much for the indistinguishable older but not too old guy set, lazy guy.”

    Great, but I’m not familiar with Krauser’s writings.
    If you’d care to elaborate, I’d appreciate it.

    How old is Krauser?

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  140. Nicole, and over 40 it does matter

    So you think us guys in mid fifties are excavations or what!?

    You know nuthin! 🙂

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  141. Exactly correct post, my LTR finally got on Facebook to communicate with her family that live in Ohio and Texas. Almost immediately I had to deflate her increased esteem because of herbs who knew her before we hooked up adding her to their friends lists and becoming fawning with compliments. So now, it’s almost completely asshole game. Given that I travel regularly and she’s also my personal assistant, (If you have the resources, always make them your personal assistant, it completely changes the dynamic), a lot of telling her that she better chase the boyfriend off before I get home etc., she’s completely compliant (It helps that I’ve known my neighbors for most of my life, always have spies). Another tactic I use is to tell her regularly “The only reason I keep you around is to make sure my shit doesn’t get stolen while I’m gone”. I also use that quote around friends and family. Then, I fuck the shit out of her. Works like a charm. Now, this is a girl that you are going to see Key West Fantasy Fest photos of on the internet when the festival is over. Sweet. BTW she asks why I don’t have a profile on Facebook. Answer, “I don’t need one”.

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  142. Madras said:

    “Meh…this post isn’t accurate. This works both ways…a lot of guys who are desperatly in need of game hide behind the internet and controlled interactions also.”

    That’s why it says in the post to stay the fuck off Facebook.

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  143. @Firepower

    So are you a girl or guy? Being creepy is good, while being weird means beta/nerd and bad. However, unique is good. Hope you know the difference. I also did it on purpose to scare off LIL & Epoxy. Aoefe… I got pretty close maybe you can wing me next time instead of cock blocking. Thanks strawberry cupcakes.

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  144. on September 30, 2010 at 7:35 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””'(If you have the resources, always make them your personal assistant, it completely changes the dynamic), ”””’

    Takes making you their career to a new level.

    Why fight it they want to have a career give them one.

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  145. @Nicole

    I’ll take my chances, so far it has been going great for me. I have so much fun at your expense. I also like to entertain the crowd by illustrating borderline neg vs. put downs. Just the other day I showed your site to a bunch of nerds, apparently your website is ancient… and they made some front page jokes that you probably wouldn’t get.

    We’re perfect for each other, your masochistic like LILGRL and I’m a true sadist.

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  146. TK, as I once explained to another, the most aggressive sheep is still not a wolf.

    Hurling insults at me isn’t going to earn you anything but my pity, like a village idiot waving his testicles at passing cars. Yes, it is offensive, but it’s hard to take such a thing personally.

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  147. The ‘size and scope of government’ don’t really matter a damn. Relative to what does matter. Immigration since 1965 matters – period. Affirmative action may cost $400 billion dollars, but it doesn’t matter a damn – wouldn’t, if our demography was like it was in 1980.

    If the government told us what color clothes to wear on what day of the week, and forced us all to attend the Catholic Church on Sundays and Wednesdays – it don’t matter. Not compared to what we’re headed into.

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  148. Morsellaux, not excavations, just not as virile as you were when you were younger. Those of us who prefer older men, and understand what to do are okay with it, but many women, being lazy, would find it a little tedious.

    Granted, women get old too, and a guy can’t be blamed for not being as quick on the draw with us, but then one has to consider that younger guys don’t have this problem. Their semi is your full-on.

    Since, despite the reality that women are still going for men somewhat older than themselves, hype-wise, you are competing with younger men, it may be wise to not tell your age. I’m not saying that it’s good to lie, but that it may be a necessary evil to get women within your target age range.

    This is nothing that hasn’t been said here before. I wouldn’t freak out if a guy I thought was 45 turned out to be 52ish. If he could pass then it’s not a big deal. I’d understand why he wouldn’t want to tell me his age.

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  149. I cancelled my Facebook about 3 months ago. Whenever I’m talking to a girl and I mention I don’t have facebook I notice she’s intrigued by choice, I think the ‘facebook closer’ is used too much, and for what?

    I always wondered why someone didn’t do an experiment; do a google image search of a hot girl, make a facebook account and see what happens and then post the study. I bet it’d be pretty telling.

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  150. Nicole, Morsellaux, not excavations, just not as virile as you were when you were younger.

    True, I won’t brag, people would think I am pulling a leg. I were an animal. But I can manage what any normal decent 30-is man can. Runs in the family, my father is 82 and he still fools around with much younger ladies. When he was my age, he regularly was servicing 30-35ish babes. I’d like to break the family record and go mid-20s.

    Their semi is your full-on.

    Haha! Told’ya you know nuthin! Ladies suggest I sure must have a bone hidden in there. 🙂

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  151. Timothy Webster,

    Roissy had a post a few months back on game resources. The mystery method is a great book, so is Roosh’s. You don’t need any DVDs or workshops- they’re of less value than regular practice and can cost a lot of money.

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  152. on September 30, 2010 at 9:29 pm Timothy Webster

    Thank you Cap’n Bob. Just got Roosh’s book, Mystery Method is next.

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  153. Morsellaux, I’m speaking generally, not you as in you specifically. Some older men are very…gifted.

    It’s just that once a guy reaches a certain age, the hormones are no longer bridging the gap between what a guy is okay with and what he really really prefers.

    I suspect that some of the problem younger women have with older men is that their just showing up isn’t enough. The mechanics can be a blow to the ego, and something repellant about her personality that might be turning him off a bit, and make things take longer, can make it a double blow.

    Plus, even if the hormones are cool, older guys are in better control of themselves. “Set in their ways” might just be girlspeak for “unwilling to put up with my crap”.

    There really is no good reason for women not to like older men. It just doesn’t fit the current entitlement trend. Apparently, women feel like they’re entitled to instantaneous erections, even when they’re unkempt or harpies.

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  154. Death to all hipsters. This is repulsive.

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  155. Stateside, I see dead people… it’s written all over them. When TSWHTF, and that is not that far away, these people will die off quickly.

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  156. Lazy

    Women also set search filters for age.

    I dislike lying. But after years of Asian females telling me that I look 5-7 years younger, I gave up and started lying about my age.

    I’m a bit worried about producing documents for the wedding.

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  157. I think I’m the only person in the world that doesn’t own a Facebook account. It’s so annoying when a guy asks me to Facebook him. Nerd alert!!!

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  158. look at me me me,

    No, you aren’t the only one. 🙂

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  159. Lazy

    When a man looking like that gets automatically rejected (online or elsewhere) by a woman who is 30 (or older) because of his age, it shows either pathetic “thinking” on the part of those women, or else they require a man who shares 99% of their pop culture addictions and references.
    Or perhaps these women want a man who is so young and inexperienced that she will probably find it easy to control him completely, about like she would a pet dog.

    Not only have I become used to not sharing any pop culture references, I go so far as dating girls from an entirely different culture. A few times we don’t even speak the same verbal language. My girlfriend and I rely heavily on google translate.

    Chemistry is chemistry. You need to be face to face to build on that. And yes, it’s all you need. A sympatico of presence. You don’t have to like the same music and TV shows.

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  160. Nicole, well, with the ballbusting going on in the last several decades, no wonder men can become neutered and deficient. I’ve never accepted this self-castration culture.

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  161. Simon

    (If you have the resources, always make them your personal assistant, it completely changes the dynamic)

    Yes, and begin training her early. Refuse to do most small favors for her, and routinely ask small favors of her. You build it up slowly and imperceptibly.

    I always hand the girl the wallet, and say “you pay”. Restaurants, taxi, clothes. I don’t do the dirty work of handling small details. I make that her job. Shows trust, to be holding my fat wallet, shows responsibility to handle my life details, and it puts her in a position of tending to my needs. Small details like ordering her to go get the food at the fast food pickup table. You gently put yourself in the dominant position, where the balance of work is done for you.

    Balanced, of course, by you being the provider.

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  162. Roissy, you should expound more on the low self-esteem chicks–the Girl A from your example. Like former fat chicks or quiet types or whatever. Your site seems heavily skewed towards gaming the extroverted, urban, wordly woman. You seem to imply other types are easier, but surely that’s not the case…?

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  163. “It is as much a man’s destiny to humble women as it is to build civilizations.”

    That is the most brilliant thing I’ve seen on this site so far. Bravo to the author and my thanks as well.

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  164. Girl is coming over for an early morning date. Texted her “bring breakfast”.

    That might seem a spin off on “bring the movies”, but not quite. You see, women have matronly urges. They want to feed you. You are commanding her to do something that deep down inside she wants to do, and the external situation will set up in her internal feelings of care and devotion.

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  165. Xsplat, maybe I misunderstand your response to my comment.

    When you say
    “Chemistry is chemistry. You need to be face to face to build on that. And yes, it’s all you need. A sympatico of presence. You don’t have to like the same music and TV shows.”

    Are you telling me that like I have expressed the opposite belief?
    I agree with you on this.
    I think holding out for a lover who shares your pop culture enthusiasms is a silly, shallow, self-defeating reason to reject a potentially powerful connection.
    It seems to be fairly common here in the USA, or at least in this silly town where I’ve been living.

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  166. I know some girl who is 3 or 4 in beauty rank and do not have actual boyfriend but she has dozens of internet boyfriends who flatter her, send her gifts. She only told me many of them when met with her never asked for second date and she feels sad about it.
    Now her contention is what is wrong with her? why such things are happening continuously?

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  167. Nowhere is the self-perceived value inflation greater than with fat girls. Every fat girl online is told by men that they love her curves or similar nonsense. As malleable as women are, after they’ve heard this refrain hundreds or thousands of times, they believe it.

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  168. exactly, it’s an efficient market for cooter…these fatties and fugs can find some guy…somewhere…who is hard up enough to flirt with her.

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  169. Yes, lazy, we agree.

    Living in a different culture put it in my face just how true your sentiment is – even when taken to extremes.

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  170. If you haven’t seen the Duke girl’s pic, it’s in this thread I started on MGTOW. For a 2010 grad, she looks older than 22, but that’s not surprising given how much mileage she’s got on her.

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  171. Business Opportunity:

    Offer Photoshopping services to the fatties and fuglies of Facebook. Virtual fakeovers for $$$.

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  172. I haven’t had a FB account for about 4 years. I deleted it when someone infiltrated my account as an interested party and then forwarded it to my boss with pics. I then thought the whole FB thing was a thorn in my side, so that’s why I deleted it.

    Now, just about every woman I fuck asks me if I’m on FB. I don’t have one, so they can’t search for me when they’re feeling anxious. I have a dummy account so I can search girls I’ve fucked to see if they’re worthy of me calling to see if I want to go on a date.

    From what I’ve gathered, they seem to want to know if I’m FB stalking them to know what their whereabouts are. I find that hilarious. Why do you want to know if I’m looking for you? Validation.

    Guys, it’s simple. Don’t have an account. Stay elusive. Stay mysterious. They’re going to be more interested in the guys who don’t have a public FB account. It’s too fascinating that you don’t have a FB account because it’s so out of the ordinary. Remain anonymous. If you want to have a LinkedIn account for professional reasons, then keep it. Just make sure to add them when they request you as a contact… then delete it immediately. HAHAHHAHA. Ginatingles.

    Final note: Girls are fucking stupid. Respect the cock.

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  173. Exchanged number with a girl. But I didn’t have the time or the motivation and I didn’t text her for some months. Recently, I texted her a simple hello and she replied who are you.

    How to proceed? Did she really delete my number because it has been a while? Is it shit testing via texting?

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  174. Brilliant

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  175. on October 1, 2010 at 1:09 am Another Alpha

    People use Facebook for picking up? Jesus….

    Anyway, the two points I’d make are:

    1) looking at it from the guys’ point of view, if you consider the optimal target to be an 8+ female who is just getting her feet wet for the first time in the world of social networking then there are probably thousands of new targets signing up every day to replace the worn-out veterans with their over-inflated egos.

    2) If the girls have their ego over-inflated to the point they are not having sex with anyone, then when they finally do hit the wall they will potentially make a comparatively virginal partner for a beta with a little bit of game.

    At any rate, there is nothing to fear from increased competition. Just make sure you are at the top of your game. If it’s too easy, there’s no fun in it.

    AA

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  176. “unicorn rainbow buttercup gas”

    Sounds interesting, where can I get that?

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  177. Warning, econ jargon in this post…

    Most people have too much time preference for utility (enjoyment) TODAY as opposed to in the future. This is manifested in such examples as women slutting it up in their 20s, citizens taking on crippling debtloads in order to pay for trinkets and toys, and so on. Traditional culture combatted this time preference problem by instilling values that allowed us to better maximize our utility over our lifetimes: “Don’t sleep around.” “Don’t spend more than you can afford.” Etc. These messages are clearly disappearing.

    Mainstream culture today is in jeopardy of mirroring African-American culture, wherein blacks show maximum time preference for pleasure incurred today and very little consideration for even the near future. Rappers express maxims such as “Fuck tomorrow” (Nas) and “Tomorrow ain’t promised today” (Ludacris).

    I’m exhausted so apologies if this is less than coherent.

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  178. This was one of the posts which really made sense. The internet dating and mating system has simply led to more indecision by those participating in it. Everyone thinks he or she can get a better mate. The men are waiting for their insatiable whore and the women are waiting for their prince charming.

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  179. I have a facebook account to keep up with old friends, etc. Privacy settings always set to maximum. Never even thought of using it for dating.

    I like reading things chicks post to each other, it’s like they are having a private conversation and have no clue anyone else is in the room, constant source of funny.

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  180. The Duke gal is probably not an outlier. Not with Chelsea Handler and the KardASSians and the rest being female icons

    Thirteen guys in four years. That’s 3.25 a year. The same rate (it would likely be HIGHER) post college 22-32 would imply about 33 more guys. Making 46 plus however many in HS by age 32.

    This is “nice girl” going to an upper crust University (Nixon went there, it is pricey).

    And people scoffed at my view that 50 by age 35 for professional urban women was not an extreme outlier.

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  181. @HR Lincoln

    When I was in the US and on Match.com, I wanted to test out why I’d been ignored by a woman who was 6’1″ tall. I changed my profile from 6’2″ to 6’3″ and wrote her again. She immediately responded. Told me on the date that a man had to be at least 6’3″ and was pissed that I’d tricked her by an inch.

    Its stupidity like this that makes me want this blog to start getting into a more comprehensive discussion about how exactly do we teach 9s and 10s that their days of beauty are numbered and their entitlement complexes really aren’t in their own interest.

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  182. @Lazy Guy

    On actual Internet dating sites, if you want to date Americans at least in the 22-25 age range, you will have to be 32 no matter what age you really are. If you want a date with a 19 year old American, go ahead and put 29 even if you are 40. Believe me, if you’re attractive and have game, they will thank you for it later. Seriously.

    Go ahead and change the age freely – depending on whom you’re targeting this week (Match briefly tried to make it so your age could not be changed after sign-up, but then they realized that older males were their financial bread and butter and they wanted the ability to change their ages at will). Only suckers allow themselves to be ignored by a high value target online because of the age they gave, when its so unnecessary. Type into her fantasy as long as you’ve got the game to mold into it in real life.

    On the actual date, if the subject even comes up, its OK to laugh and say you lied on the profile if your game is going well. One just needs to feel zero guilt whatsoever.

    I was never rejected for having lied about my age online except for one instance where the woman and I got into an intense physical relationship before her father stopped the 5th date by doing a check on my age and interfering (I was 40 and she was 20).

    But considering that I got a lot of enjoyment out of those 4 dates with such a hot woman, I don’t consider that story a warning *not* to lie online but an encouragement to do so.

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  183. Have you seen this? I know it is off topic, but haven’t seen something so sick in a long time–how to make a campaign endearing:

    Last time it was about people wearing glasses, I think.

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  184. Roosh’s post on the future of game looked like it was written for 19 year old males whom he’s afraid to talk about his days in Brazil about. It was also way too negative and simplistic.

    If DC is really as bad as his futuristic scenario paints, Roosh needs to have been long gone.

    He’s way, way off base calling foreign women “mail order brides” (especially considering his many trips to Brazil) as this only pedastalizes American women by conferring them higher status (the reason why feminists love tossing the word “mail order bride” around).

    In Eastern Europe in 2010, 9s and 10s are almost impossible to get by saying you’re an American. You have to fit in, speak the language and have more game than you need in the USA. Do you know how hard it is to casually neg in a language you just learned?

    The only thing good about Eastern Europe these days is that there are MORE good looking women per capita here, not because any of the women think like “mail order brides”.

    Again, that remark in his essay about Betas going off to meet mail order brides is especially lame considering his own trips to Brazil. What was he thinking?

    His essay says that feminism will get worse in the USA over the next 10 years. Maybe it will but…

    Feminism in the US can be reversed and it will only take a good 10 year pendulum swing against it to make the women aged 15-25 immune to it. Nobody will care about their elders’ previous indoctrination.

    The beauty about the fight against anti-male indoctrination of women…is that men won’t care about reversing the indoctrination of older women as long as each year’s new crop of 18 year olds isn’t indoctrinated.

    If a rich alumnus were to force a pro-male first year Gender Studies 101 course on a university, there would be immediate results in that the Freshman girls will be nicer than the older girls and guys won’t be complaining.

    So, while I wouldn’t bother living in the US dating environment, which isn’t relatively the best place for older guys dating young hotties, if I lived in the USA I would map out a strategy for creating a better future for game.

    Finding a billionaire to help publicize the feminism problem and neutralize a few Gender Studies curriculums might be a start.

    The end of the Demi Moore – Ashton Kutcher charade would also be a start.

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  185. Plus there’s more room for religious nuttery. I’ve mentioned before that a minor problem in Eastern Europe is American religious sects wooing young women to be “one of them” in order for them to get a sense of belonging. This can include a ridiculous notion that there’s a fellow religious nut waiting to find her and marry her via her particular sect’s vast electronic network.

    I need to know more about this. Link? 🙂

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  186. @AHA

    I don’t study the issue online, but I’ve occasionally run across East European female teens here in their home territory who proudly boast that they joined a certain American religious sect against the pleading of her parents and siblings.

    Results:

    1) A fervent desire to spend her entire nubile period (the next 5 years) in Africa doing missionary work.

    2) Zero respect for local men who haven’t seen the light of her new religion including disdain for any American who says “Oh my God, that’s a sect. You’re getting duped”.

    They have the sect’s Facebook account to fall back on instead of the flesh and blood people before them in real life.

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  187. @AHA

    Pentacostals are especially vicious about teaching young women to forsake all men who come before them.

    They’ve also got that mentally sick prohibition against kissing before marriage.

    The Mormon missionaries tend to spare the poor beauties and go more for the rich old folks, which is less of a threat to men.

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  188. I remember when LILGRL was new around here, and all the beta boys lined up to shower with compliments, despite her being a hefty butterface.

    I never blamed her for her unwarranted narcissism. I blamed the beta boys.

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  189. @Roosh

    Seriously, are you going to edit that nonsense about “Betas” going overseas to date foreign women in that Future of Game post? Sure, there’s a minor contingent of herbs who travel in order to propose to the first creature they find at a foreign airport, but they’re dwarfed by the real expat community.

    That kind of framing doesn’t insult me and other expats personally so much as it automatically confers higher status to American women. It says “We Alphas don’t have the option of dating Brazilian 10s because we be way cool and need to prove ourselves with American feminist 8s who are the top prize”.

    One of the many possible strategic scenarios for combating feminism would be, as I’ve seen in your OWN writing, a huge and public preference by American men for foreign women…even if only done as a big macro neg to lower the self esteem of American women enough so they wake up and play fair on the local US dating markets.

    I’ve assumed this is already happening (but I haven’t really lived in the US in a decade and can’t imagine how good or bad its gotten there).

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  190. lol @ “macro neg”

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  191. WRT the duke girl and the ppt presentation:

    Given that she actually made a ppt presentation indicates she is a sour burned out husk of a woman and a human being. Even her demeanor in the pic indicates a sour, bitter look. She looks bitter which is evidenced by her need to make a presentation that eventually made it out on the web. Her judgmental writing is evidence of bitterness and entitlement.

    She and her cohorts may turn around and say, “It was all in good fun” or “It was a joke” but lets be honest- A thousand truths are told in jest.

    I mean, what type of woman actually does something like that? Not one that is quality marriage material that is for sure.

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  192. I got the image of the Duke girl at the site the guy somewhere above mentioned. We obviously don’t know for sure it’s here, but whoever it is is a case study in how to identify a pump and dump.

    BTW if her “thesis” mentions only athletes that’s a good bet that she’s done more than athletes. She’s only willing to admit the athletes to show off her alpha-femaleness to her friends. It was only supposed to be read by her friends.

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  193. Morsellaux, a man doesn’t have to accept the culture to be broken by it.

    In my legal husband’s case, I think he associated vanilla sex with the system, and decided young that he really didn’t want any of that, but tolerated it because women liked it. He is very anti reproduction, which should have been a red flag for me, but I was young and in love. What can I say?

    There are probably lots of men out there who consider their sex drive a sort of inconvenience, and look forward to the day when they’re in total or near total control of it. The only problem is that if that desire for control tips into a desire for it to end, it can cause a guy to lose it.

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  194. I am wondering how that fit in with the prediction of the Futurist (singularity2050) who predicts that 3D/virtual porn makes men rate the attractivity of women less highly and women need to be upper HB range to offer men a suitable alternative. So on one hand social media inflate women’s self worth but on the other hand men increase their minimum demands. How about market making in this context?

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  195. @ Nicole

    “TK, as I once explained to another, the most aggressive sheep is still not a wolf.

    Hurling insults at me isn’t going to earn you anything but my pity, like a village idiot waving his testicles at passing cars. Yes, it is offensive, but it’s hard to take such a thing personally.”

    Heh.

    Watching you interact with this clown has been something of a clinic. You can call it Game or what—I don’t know. All I know, is that it’s been really one-sided. Witnessing the way you effortlessly dispatch this mope time and again is just textbook “amused mastery”.

    Loudmouths like The King confuse screaming with influence, arrogance with strength, and posturing with swagger. But what they don’t understand is that their assaults exact a higher price from them than their opponents—a lesson that isn’t lost on Nicole or Firepower. Like a master swordsmen they have sliced and diced The King so ruthlessly and efficiently—and yet so calmly—the man doesn’t even notice that the blood all over the floor is his.

    I come to this site as much for the roiling commentariat as I do for the articles. Neither has disappointed me.

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  196. @whiskey

    I know several educated women in their early thirties with their own apartments downtown. These chicks are fielding bad boy booty calls every night of the week. If she’s not menstrating and you can convince her you will disappear afterwards, you can fuck. These women have easily seen more than 100 cocks thus far. I think many are in denial over how much sex your average woman is having.

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  197. on October 1, 2010 at 12:08 pm too late for romance

    Once again we have proof that Duke is really just a finishing school for jersey white trash.

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  198. IN NYC there is no denial that HOT women are averaging 25-50-75-100+ fucks as they go from 20-25-30-35+…..its simple math 5x/yr….

    One side note, all that ramming introduces massive germs to these pussies and those fallopian tube-ends become scarred over and over till they close up…

    Tons of celebrities have to go IVF b/c of this…they say its biological clock…its actaully treadmarks of a ravaged pussy

    Thet E channel Juliana Radzik just admitted at 36 she cant get prego.

    I have a GYNO friends who says that hot womens pussy looks like a tarmac with tears, rips, stretch marks, discoloration, and distended labia, and internal damage to cervix.

    Imagine what your lips would look like if you kissed every ho at the bus station 5x/yr for 15 yrs

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  199. @12:08

    Duke is an amazing school;Top 5 in any list.,,,blows away half the Ivy league.

    This girl was smart as shit to get in OR had a booster/legacy Dad that wrote a check.

    I read all 35pgs of the ppt. She is out 5 nights a week till 6am getting wasted, never studys; she had to be smart as shit to not get booted out for failing.

    Goes to show, one see a clean cut, smart, educated Woman and thinks she was studying…meanwhile she was giving hos a run for their money.

    Funny, she rates the guy that fucks her the most violent the best…pulling hair, throwing her around, flipping positions, ramming…meanwhile the guy with BMW is PG.

    She will be cheating on her PG husband while she runs up the clock to 100+ fucks.

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  200. on October 1, 2010 at 12:38 pm SugarAndSpice

    “Guys, it’s simple. Don’t have an account. Stay elusive. Stay mysterious. They’re going to be more interested in the guys who don’t have a public FB account.”

    I don’t know about that . . . I’m in my early 20s, and I’ve been obsessed with plenty of guys with Facebook profiles. In my age group, a guy without one is considered something of a Luddite freak.

    Looking back, though, I can see that most of my crushes followed a pattern with their profiles:
    1. Posted little profile information, except for a few unexpected tidbits (for instance, a guy I had pegged as a boring business type listed Dante in his favorite books. I was intrigued).
    2. Didn’t post a relationship status
    3. Posted on mutual friends’ walls, but rarely on mine
    4. Didn’t post too many status updates, so I didn’t constantly know where and with whom they were hanging out.

    I’m not saying a man needs a Facebook profile . . . just that if you do have one, it shouldn’t be a major impediment to success with women.

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  201. facebook and the decaying myspace are facile means in which to quanitfy one’s social desirability.

    bitchcrack, pure & simple

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  202. Of course, if all the 5s and will be more like fishing in stocked ponds.

    the 5s and the >5s will readjust their perceptions a bit being in circles of all >5s.

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  203. The objective is to gain speedy, sexual access to women. The facebook dance just slows things down and can only hurt your chances. Sex happens in the real world, that’s where you need to operate. No matter how wet you think your online bullshit is making her, the reset button is pushed when you finally get her out into the world. That’s when you apply the tried and true methods of game and realize your goal: sex.

    If you seek validation from women and want them to ‘get to know you’ first, stay on facebook. If you think attraction is generated by providing her the means to visualize you at your desk, perusing her photos and related bullshit, you just don’t get it yet.

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  204. The average girl will have at least 100,000 pics of herself, taken by her or other people by age 21.

    I think chicks should put out their own tabloids. Once they put a dollar value then they’d realize no one’s buying. Unless they’re hot.

    That would be a good test for the marketplace.

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  205. Keep in mind, once you and a girl are facebook ‘friends’ you are now part of her ‘social circle’. This disqualifies you from being the guy she can fuck without consequence. Not having a facebook profile will allow you to be like that Mexican who sodomized her when she was on vacation.

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  206. Nicole,

    You posted
    “There are probably lots of men out there who consider their sex drive a sort of inconvenience, and look forward to the day when they’re in total or near total control of it.”

    Damn, I’m impressed by your insight, sincerely.
    It’s so very rare to see/hear anyone expresss (or admit) this.

    Sometimes I wonder why apparently so few men ever question the condition of being so heavily influenced by a drive for which fulfillment can be so difficult to obtain (such as, if he is highly selective about the women he will fuck, and yet he won’t pay the price to attain ‘impressive’ superficial qualifiers like social status & affluence).

    Sometimes having a strong sex drive feels like having no choice but to ride on the back of a big, powerful, wild animal, who will take you wherever HE decides to go, unpredictably.

    Sometimes I wonder why I never hear men express displeasure about having been given (given by ‘God’, if you will) such a strong personal imperative which they find so difficult to fulfill, rather than just hearing the common male anger at women in general, for making it so difficult to get enough sexual fulfillment that he can feel at peace, finally relieved from feeling perpetually harrassed by his unfulfilled need.

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  207. One concesson regarding my previous comment:

    Naturally, it can be so difficult to think throught this stuff with any clarity.

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  208. I didn’t know what a duckbill was, google-imaged it, and nearly pissed myself lauging.

    YES!

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  209. I’ve come to a place where rejecting the sexual advances of women provides me greater pleasure then jizzing for them. At present, I can go about 4 months before nocturnal emmision. Anyone else experiment with this?

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  210. Death vajra,

    A urologist told me a man needs to ejaculate fairly often for his own health; frequency depending on age.
    I think he said a guy around 30 should do it at least every other day.
    Going a long time without ejaculating can give a man severe pain (feeling like your balls are being squeezed hard), as well as reducing your body’s capacity for having sex often in a small time frame, ie, slowing your recovery time between orgasms. ie, ‘Use it or lose it’.

    But as for your other comment, yeah, I know what you mean, getting tired of bullshit gets to be such a turn off,
    and sometimes it feels good just to know you had the option to fuck that woman, without going through all the bullshit to do it.
    For so many women, just looking at her is the best deal you could ever get from her, in terms of ‘return on investment’.
    Ridiculously high prices get to be sooo tiresome.
    No thanks, I don’t want it that bad…
    Freedom from bullshit, sanity, & simplicity have their value too.

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  211. Death vajra, At present, I can go about 4 months before nocturnal emmision.

    Really? Damn. 4-5 days max. To my consolation, I’ll sure have peace when I die. 🙂

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  212. Moxie

    I remember when LILGRL was new around here, and all the beta boys lined up to shower with compliments, despite her being a hefty butterface

    player hater…
    like you wouldnt tap that

    For the record, I like them both

    Still, it’s good to see them using their absence productively

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/09/30/secret-sex-video-linked-nj-students-suicide/?test=latestnews

    go team

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  213. Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. You know, tantric meditation considers the release of seminal fluid to be a fault. People like the dalai lama have gone years without jizz. As far as discomfort, I’ve experienced only bliss when doing a celibate stretch.

    Between guys, I think we all enjoy the feeling of waking up with wood, rolling around the bed with all kinds of sweet thoughts passing through our minds while we’re half-asleep. All I can say is that after about 10 days of internalizing your essence, this morning experience becomes extremely pleasurable. After about a month, your entire world, as it appears, begins to transform.

    I’m on this trip and would love to discuss!

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  214. on October 1, 2010 at 4:17 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lozlzlozlzlzlzlzlzz

    Hey roissy1!!!!!

    another idea for a micospotft paint cartoon!!!!

    have a women in a bussiness suit
    all tiered and haggard
    tired and haggard in a business suit with a sore anuth
    with lotsa cocka cum all over her
    and fiat dollzrz stcking out of her pockets zlozlzolzlz
    and losta cats behind her

    and then have her looking at
    a owmen cradling a baby and with three small chicldren
    and a husband just coming home
    and a white picket fence lzozlzlz

    and have the women in the business suit saying, “boy am i glad i’m not just someone’s property.”

    lzozozlzlzlzlz!

    lzozoolzozlzozolzlzozzo

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  215. Death vajra, I am definitely not Dalai Lama! 🙂
    And it happens during dry spells, which is not that often. It is not bad in the sense that it is usually accompanied by a wild dream with a some form of virtual HB or another. And my dreams can be rather vivid. Just when you turn to grab that warm wet ass, it’s not there, which I somewhat resent being a hands-on kinda guy.

    So, overall, not much to complain about. Maybe I try the stuff you describe when I hit 70. 🙂

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  216. @Silver Fox

    IN NYC there is no denial that HOT women are averaging 25-50-75-100+ fucks as they go from 20-25-30-35+…..its simple math 5x/yr….

    Not just hot women. Most women in NYC. There’s just so much cock being offered these women and they’ve mostly bought into the SATC no-consequences lifestyle.

    Interesting point about fallopian tube scarring and pussy and cervix damage. Would love to see a post about that.

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  217. Interesting discussion re: abstaining and controlling the sex drive. I’ve been experimenting with sexual transmutation – the idea being to harness sexual energy (the most powerful energy in a man’s life) for other purposes. But I find it very hard to go more than a few days without a release, be it sex or masturbation – basically, my thoughts increasingly focus on sex.

    Would love to figure out how to better harness this energy.

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  218. Lazy guy:

    The ancient Greeks understood that the sex drive was inconvenient. One was asked how he felt now that his sex drive was pretty much done:
    “I feel as though I have been freed from a cruel master.”

    Another Greek philosopher was caught masturbating in some semipublic location, and was mocked. He replied:
    “I only wish my hunger could be satisfied by rubbing my belly.”

    I think men are so uneducated these days that they don’t get it. They think they SHOULD be wasting their time chasing ass. If they had a decent education, they would be finding more interesting things to do. Women get boring fast, if you have easy access to them. That’s why smart women limit access.

    The most positive thing this website can do for men is to make them not take women seriously. After that, life becomes much easier. The women are happier, too.

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  219. Death Vajra: 5 weeks is my maximum. Happened during a yoga teacher training. Not even close to having any emissions. Weird.

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  220. Ah, so this explains all the fat girls at the mall with their t-shirts saying “God Did This!!!”….

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  221. Grampa @ 7:27 is right. I’d only add that the women are happier because the don’t have to be the men their men aren’t.

    A plague on female swinishness. Vive la difference.

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  222. Isn’t a rural six as likely to be in the upper tier (relatively speaking) of her peer group in the limited social circle? In smaller samples, the range of “hot” will be different–if the ratio of suitors to women is low, a six will rise in status.

    The larger urban sample is actually more likely to correctly peg the sexual market value at six, if only because the sample contains more data points.

    You have no reason to assume that the small sample will accurately peg the hypothetical six you posit here while the larger urban sample will overestimate the value of the six just because she has more input or attention.

    Not all attention paid to the six in a rural setting will be bad. And not all attention paid to the six in the urban setting will be good.

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  223. chainring

    Would love to figure out how to better harness this energy.

    I’ve found that the best way to harness and fully use the power of sexual energy and put it to best effect is to fuck.

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  224. Death vajra

    Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. You know, tantric meditation considers the release of seminal fluid to be a fault. People like the dalai lama have gone years without jizz. As far as discomfort, I’ve experienced only bliss when doing a celibate stretch.

    Between guys, I think we all enjoy the feeling of waking up with wood, rolling around the bed with all kinds of sweet thoughts passing through our minds while we’re half-asleep. All I can say is that after about 10 days of internalizing your essence, this morning experience becomes extremely pleasurable. After about a month, your entire world, as it appears, begins to transform.

    I’m on this trip and would love to discuss!

    There are some energetic meditation practices that you might have a natural inclination to learn. They focus on kinesthetic feelings, and work directly with sexual energies running throughout the whole body.

    I prefer not to orgasm during sex myself. Orgasm is more of a let down than anything else. You can get dentist drill intensity of pleasure by raising your sexual plateau higher and higher, until you are compelled to scream your head off.

    For full effect, you have to practice all that while actually fucking. And you’ll want to fuck a lot.

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  225. Here is a simple exercise that can change your life. Warning: it is dangerous and has a slight risk of literally causing you to go insane. A medium risk of leaving you permanently horny. A high risk of you never feeling your body in the same way again.

    While fucking, place all your focus at the top of your head. Rather than feel sensations in the tip of your dick, you’ll feel them in the top of your head. Eventually you’ll feel them all up your spine. Make loud sneezing sounds and shoot the sexual energy out the top of your head, instead of coming. Don’t be shy – really scream.

    Your spine will never be the same.

    Don’t do that particular sexual trick too much – it can be draining, and is not the final habit you want to set up. That’s just to get your spinal energies flowing.

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  226. Death vajra

    I’ve come to a place where rejecting the sexual advances of women provides me greater pleasure then jizzing for them. At present, I can go about 4 months before nocturnal emmision. Anyone else experiment with this?

    I used to live in a Buddhist monastery and in a Buddhist meditation center, and have done long meditation retreats in the forest – the longest being 11 weeks. In such situations if you don’t masturbate at all your testosterone will drop off, and you’ll find a calmness of desires. Once you start fucking again, it can take a few days to get your desire back – you may even suffer a bit of limp dick.

    People tend to make a big deal about whatever they are currently doing, and call it spritual. The old think their relationships are deeper, because they fuck less. It’s nonsense. Spirituality is nothing more and nothing less than the depth and breadth of awareness you bring to a situation. And sex is a state of heightened awareness.

    There is no act more spiritual than sex.

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  227. By meditation retreat in the forest, I mean living alone in a delapidated hunters shack an hours hike from nowhere.

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  228. While I’m casually scattering gold dust onto the comments thread, I may as well leave this nugget: use suggestion often. Tell your girl “every day you will fall deeper and deeper in love with me”. “One day I’m going to own every last piece of you”. “Step by step you will fall more in love. At first you won’t notice it, but then I’ll go away on a trip and your whole body will ache and you won’t be able to think about anything but me. Then when I’m back every day will be like Christmas and your birthday, and you will feel taken care of and warm.”

    Hypnotic suggestion works. I use such tricks often, in the subtlest of ways, simply by word choices. Rather than “god damn I missed you today – I couldn’t concentrate on my work and couldn’t stop thinking about you”, its “welcome back to our happy apartment! Now we are happy people!” or “seems you haven’t been able to stop thinking about me, isn’t it?”

    But sometimes I go ahead and admit too much, and drop most of the NLP. “I need a nap. Come on the bed. I haven’t been able to sleep. I need your smell so I can sleep”. This is still slightly depersonalized, but it is still showing underbelly. The notion here is I can show some degree of underbelly, as she shows me hers. It’s actually necessary.

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  229. “I’m on this trip and would love to discuss!”

    No-fap october?

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  230. xsplat, I’ve found that the best way to harness and fully use the power of sexual energy and put it to best effect is to fuck.

    Hehe, my findings also, though I was less involved in the exploration of other options.

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  231. Dragnet, I’d like to think that I’m just doing my part to bring balance back to the Force.

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  232. Lazy guy, what led me to ask certain questions is that my legal husband aged out about six years ago. At that point, I felt my own sex drive was an inconvenience I’d be happier without, and he expressed that he’d felt that way since he was in his teens because he’s anti reproduction.

    His beliefs along those lines solidified with his experiences in combat, and then as a police officer. I can’t say that I blame him, even though I’m of a different opinion.

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  233. For the record, I don’t do yoga, I actually drink beer as a reflective practice. I had a steady girl for a year that I would bang at least once a week. I got to the point where I could bang her for a couple hours and not release. I didn’t even enjoy the sex, it was just cardio. I loved the feeling of being in control though. I used to jerk off every day in my teens and early twenties, then I started to try and kick it. I consider it to be a habbit like smoking cigarettes.

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  234. greatbooksformen GBFM

    tired and haggard in a business suit with a sore anuth
    with lotsa cocka cum all over her
    zlozlzolzlz

    never knew tokyojesusfist was SO descriptively erudite

    have a great, cum-spewing weekend

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  235. I am on vacation in Central America. people would not believe the number of gringos who spent their whole days in their laptops using the hostel´s wi fi.

    I mean the whole fucking day. And that facebook thing is the most accesed site by far. Think about it, a freak spents the whole day in Cpsta Rica talking with his friend who spends the whole day in bangcoc doing the same thing.

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  236. I was pondering the other day about chicks with “male” hobbies. You know what I’m talking about…that one hot gal that is into tabletop RPGs, supposedly because she’s super cool and quirky, but it’s really just to harvest the desperate affection and compliments from hopeless nerdy guys.

    My take is that it depends on the ‘maturity level’ of the activity as to how bad it is. On the bottom you’ve got the the girl that puts on a headset, joins a halo game and sucks up the attention like a greedy vampire. She’s everywhere…But then you’ve got the rare instance of hot single chicks who frequent the local range…and well, as my old man would say “The smell of Hoppe’s No. 9 won’t attract many girls, but it’ll attract the right kind!”

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  237. […] the Dust“, “Gaming Asian Girls“, “Five Minutes of Alpha“, “Attention Whore Hyperactivity Disorder“, “Marriage Down, Dystopia […]

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  238. on October 3, 2010 at 1:24 pm Capt. No-Marriage

    Good post. Don’t forget that while female egos are being overly inflated, on the other side of the fence males are being taught from a young age (often by single mothers) to kiss women’s asses. Even in grade school, instead of the old “boys will be boys” attitude, they now prescribe drugs in order to better control them.

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  239. Gig,

    Your account of guys in exotic foreign locations spending all day sitting inside a hostel fixating on their laptops
    is funny and sad,
    and a great illustration of behavior pattern choices which are an unbelievably foolish waste of time or opportunity.
    Thanks for posting that.

    Unfortunately, it seems most of us are increasingly suceptible to making foolish choices like that, being brainwashed by bullshit messages bombarding us through relentless mass media.
    That’s my impression anyway, and I don’t even watch TV.
    For example, we can hardly go to a news website without seeing a news headline about the latest celebrity twit’s behavior (so you find yourself knowing what Ms. Twit is doing lately, when you could not care less), or seeing ads glorifying an insatiable gluttony for materialistic values.

    I know how addictive the internet can be.
    I jokingly tell myself “Put the crack pipe DOWN”.
    Snap out of the hypnosis. Wake up, your life is going by.
    Go out and live real life, ‘in 3D’ … play a musical instrument, no matter how modestly …
    DO, instead of being an audience/collector of other people’s stuff …

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  240. I’m personally amazed by the number of women on sites that say “I’m the proud single mom of two (or more) amazing children that are my whole life” (And sometimes even have the kids in the photos with them.)

    What are they thinking? What guy says “All-RIGHT!!! A woman with a pre-stretched vagina and kids from some other guy that’ll walk in on us while we’re fucking! I GOTTA hit THIS!”

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  241. Another reason why one shouldn’t pick up from the internet.

    http://thechive.com/2010/09/13/sexy-is-as-sexy-does-2-photos/?obref=obinsite

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  242. K.K.

    What guy says “All-RIGHT!!! A woman with a pre-stretched vagina and kids from some other guy…”

    The Sigmoid Beta who’s so entranced by wagina that he willfully ignores the vile cumspawn of another lion’s loins.

    I’ve dismissed scores of quality pussy simply because of their rancid wombfruit. Who wants to fuck post-Jayden Britney Spears; give me one in the high-school skirt everytime.

    Only young, hot and childless now suffices for me.

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  243. @Nicole

    “TK, as I once explained to another, the most aggressive sheep is still not a wolf.

    Hurling insults at me isn’t going to earn you anything but my pity, like a village idiot waving his testicles at passing cars. Yes, it is offensive, but it’s hard to take such a thing personally.”

    Yes just like betas will be betas. The smartest wolf will disguise as a sheep to get closer to its pray and not stand out in the herd.

    Again I am here for my enjoyment, I really aren’t looking to earn anything besides entertainment and insight here. You clearly in your response show that my statements affect you, because you labeled them as “offensive.” If you didn’t care, you would have called it jokes or something less sinister.

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  244. KK, I’m told that some guys like single mothers because it’s proof of fertility. If the kids are well cared for and not mentally messed up, it’s also a sign that some males think she and her kids are worth protecting. It’s preselection, and in today’s feminized west, this actually means something for women too.

    I know a few guys who have fallen into the trap with women with messed up kids though, because of the paternal instinct. I believe men’s paternal instinct is stronger than a good chunk of women’s maternal instinct because of this. The guy essentially falls in fatherly love with the kid(s) and the mom is part of a package deal.

    They end up marrying the mom or deepening the relationship because the mom basically implies a threat to the kids. “What will Alphaspawn Jr. do without you?” That kind of thing.

    So guys, if you’re dating a single mom, know that unless you have icewater flowing through your veins, you are a much better person than feminists say that you are, and can love just about any child who gives you the puppy eyes. It’s an adaptive trait in males, carried over from the times when it was mama’s baby, daddy’s maybe.

    So don’t meet the kids until you are sure you want to keep the mom.

    TK, I have no interest in feigning indifference, mainly because I’m actually independent, and not a poser like yourself.

    I do have a heart, emotions, and empathy. I just don’t take the rantings of people who are generally hostile personally because it’s just part of their makeup, and has little to do with anything wrong I’m doing or being.

    So you’ll find me more Malcom X-ish than Martin Luther King-ish. I’m happy to play the game, but I understand that I’m playing with an emotional cripple, so I can’t get angry because you’re a little slow and don’t understand what’s going on.

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  245. on October 5, 2010 at 9:04 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””on October 2, 2010 at 1:11 pm gig
    I am on vacation in Central America. people would not believe the number of gringos who spent their whole days in their laptops using the hostel´s wi fi.

    I mean the whole fucking day. And that facebook thing is the most accesed site by far. Think about it, a freak spents the whole day in Cpsta Rica talking with his friend who spends the whole day in bangcoc doing the same thing.

    ””””

    lol and one day both places will have exactly the same coorporate everything.

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  246. @Nicole

    “TK, I have no interest in feigning indifference, mainly because I’m actually independent, and not a poser like yourself.”

    I guess we both share that in common, I haven’t met my Dad and my mother died when I was 15. So I have taken care of myself by putting myself through private college. I don’t understand when you mean poser, since I am real.

    “I do have a heart, emotions, and empathy. I just don’t take the rantings of people who are generally hostile personally because it’s just part of their makeup, and has little to do with anything wrong I’m doing or being.”

    I also have a heart for cigars, money and young women. In other words you can’t handle reality thus choose denial, makes sense since if you actually were productive like myself, you wouldn’t make excuses for being fat and black, but go to the gym and lose the weight or changing your diet. Thyroid problem can be combated using medications, so there is no excuse besides denial and laziness.

    “So you’ll find me more Malcom X-ish than Martin Luther King-ish. I’m happy to play the game, but I understand that I’m playing with an emotional cripple, so I can’t get angry because you’re a little slow and don’t understand what’s going on.”

    No you won’t, since you are a woman and place so much importance on emotional intelligence, being emotionally vacant is a positive trait. Why don’t you ask a plastic surgeon, soldier or politician to be emotional during his next operation.

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  247. TK, by poser, I mean a socially dependent person trying really hard and failing to be an independent thinker. I don’t know whether it is because you are incapable or unwilling at the moment, but I’m leaning on the side of incapable.

    I handle reality just fine. I just don’t care as much as you do how others choose to frame it. Your values are just my points of information. When you call me names, it doesn’t tell me that I’m whatever you call me. It just tells me that this is what you think of me, and what people in your age group and with your background and level of social vulnerability may think of me.

    This is valuable information to me, so I make a note of it. It helps to shape or solidify prejudices I need in order to move safely among the herd. I do not however, wish to mate with any of them.

    You keep saying whatever because I’m female, but I don’t think you fully understand what that means.

    You feel that you need to conform to a certain degree so that you can more easily bed a number of women.

    I do not wish to bed a number of men. I just need one, and I need him to not be a sheep. I’m not a sheep shagger.

    So I use the information I gather from guys like you to keep that mysterious smile on my face as I’m saying no, when young men are trying to blow smoke up my ass.

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  248. @Nicole

    “TK, by poser, I mean a socially dependent person trying really hard and failing to be an independent thinker. I don’t know whether it is because you are incapable or unwilling at the moment, but I’m leaning on the side of incapable.”

    What is the difference between independent thinker and a social dependent person? Don’t you use public transportation, public libraries, highways and the supermarket? You are always socially dependent unless you live in the wilderness. You also rely on the internet or cellphone hence connected to society via virtually. I have ADHD, I am naturally an independent thinker.

    “I handle reality just fine. I just don’t care as much as you do how others choose to frame it. Your values are just my points of information. When you call me names, it doesn’t tell me that I’m whatever you call me. It just tells me that this is what you think of me, and what people in your age group and with your background and level of social vulnerability may think of me.”

    Yes, you can’t handle reality well though and just get by through life like an average individual who is satisfied with “fine.”

    Actually calling you fat and ugly are quite accurate according to the image you post on your website. I have a hard time understanding why anyone would post their picture and not expect a third party to comment. That’s great BBW, since I represent college educated, Caucasian yuppie which is a huge majority in American society.

    “This is valuable information to me, so I make a note of it. It helps to shape or solidify prejudices I need in order to move safely among the herd. I do not however, wish to mate with any of them.”

    I thought you lived in Israel, I think you have your hands full with suicide bombers, minds and missiles. Again you are delusional to think you are in a position to have any standards. Remember you are damaged goods and past your expiration date.

    “You keep saying whatever because I’m female, but I don’t think you fully understand what that means.”

    I do as a sex, the female species are proven to think more emotionally influenced terms, hence they cannot fully think logically or rationally compared to men.

    “You feel that you need to conform to a certain degree so that you can more easily bed a number of women.”

    True, which do you think has a better chance of bedding in-demand fertile woman? A homeless loser with AIDs who speaks in vulgar gibberish or a clean cut yuppie with a well rounded personality? Works for me, why bother changing what’s not broken?

    “I do not wish to bed a number of men. I just need one, and I need him to not be a sheep. I’m not a sheep shagger.”

    Yes, I think you fit more toward a cow shagger correct?

    “So I use the information I gather from guys like you to keep that mysterious smile on my face as I’m saying no, when young men are trying to blow smoke up my ass.”

    Again your imaginary friends don’t count, you need to stop with wishful thinking. You will need to wear a brown paper bag and pay me at least $100,000 for me to even glance your way. Also is it common for BBWs to be obsessed with anal play? It must be because of the obsession with food.

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  249. TK, if you don’t know what an independent thinker is, you don’t have the requisite knowledge to be in this conversation. You’re a psychopath like I’m a hot blonde.

    Get back in the pen. You’ll be safer there.

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  250. @Nicole

    I’m disappointed that the above post was your best effort.

    Of course, an independent thinker is an individual who has valuable critical thinking skills that are free from “bias” since “he” is free from social or media brainwashing and can make his conclusion free of any influence.

    However, no one can be free from bias, since every language has a bias and the culture and parents will have lasting impression on his psyche, weather his aware of it or not. If you were an independent thinker.. Nicole.. you wouldn’t have a blog.

    Clearly you failed Psych 101, if you were qualified then you would know I am a sociopath and not a psychopath. I left more than enough clues/evidence to see if you knew what you were talking about. Go reread DSM-IV and about McDonald Triad.

    Additionally as a successful or high functioning ASPD, I am safest in civilized company. Again you wouldn’t know that would you? Not all ASPD are violent and why would you recommend the pen with your fellow brothers? ASPD is impossible to treat, again go read articles before making inane statements, since I know a book or a journal is too much for you. Your ignorance is on full public display just like your physical manifestation.

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  251. TK, again, you don’t know who or what you’re dealing with, or you’re playing stupid. I lack the patience for semantic games.

    The fact remains that you’ve stated that you let your friends decide who you can and can’t screw, you gauge female beauty by the mainstream media as opposed to the natural scale, and you think that because I am fat and Black, I should believe that I am somehow inferior to you…an unproven 22 year old who hasn’t even bred yet, much less bred and successfully raised another independent thinker.

    You’re out of your league, boy. So you have to forgive me if I don’t think you’re worth much effort. You’re just another lost lamb to me.

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  252. Oh, and another point in favor of sheepletude is that you define your mentality by a book.

    It’s called “polluting the sample” and no better than Oprah fanboys who decide they’re misogynists because they don’t want to shag fat chicks.

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  253. @Nicole

    Of course, you do since you are clearly outmatched and you know it. Does being prodded repeatedly in the head by my snide remarks get to you?

    Please paste the exact quote that states I have my friend make my decisions, I mentioned that I care about their opinion since it helps me accomplish my goals.

    I should explain that it doesn’t mean I let them decided what I do or won’t do.

    Also if you knew anything about social camouflage, you would get that concept of keeping an arm candy for promoting the right social image. BBW, you clearly lack any logical thought process.

    What is the difference between the natural scale and media provided scale? Just because you are grossly obese and no one of value would look at you doesn’t mean you can spew your low standards and have anyone accept it. My ideal would be 5’5-5’8, 110-120 lbs BMI of 20-25 and age 18-25 female who isn’t black or a single mother. Does that fit the media promoted scale?

    Where do you get the notion that I am unproven? According to what standards? YOURS? Do I need to be a chocolate cake?

    I also already have a couple kids, but they are in another country being raised by a beta chump. Also funny how you measure value by raising an “independent thinker” clearly you can’t get over your nurture based impulses and woman biased thinking.

    BBW this is textbook delusional thinking. Goes well with your bitterness that no quality man would shag an ugly whale like you.

    At least my mentality is shared by other great thinkers, while yours stems from emotional insanity. Next time, you should wait a few weeks before replying, so that you can comprehend my statements and make an adequate rebuttal free of womanly hormonal influence.

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  254. on October 6, 2010 at 6:47 am Capt. No-Marriage

    KK is 10000000% right!

    Granted at when you’re 19 or 20 and you meet a chick with kids who hasn’t totally let herself go and she’s nice, and let’s be honest……EASY!! For the first few weeks you think wow, this is great!!

    Then all the shit starts to hit. Suddenly whoever has been babysitting is no longer available as much so now you can only bang her when her schedule permits. Then there’s your wallet, many will flat out ask for “help” while others will hit your bank account in more subtle ways such as taking her and her 3 kids from 3 fathers out to eat.

    Bottom line, avoid single mothers.

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  255. latest non-farm payroll downward surprise shows miss in headline estimate largely due to state and local employment…..good bye paper pushers, what else can you do?

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  256. This was my POF profile for a while:
    “I find the solipsism, fickleness and insincerity of some of the women on this site amazing. Not just dog-does-backflip surprising, but rather Bruce-Forsyth-pulls-a-grand-piano-out-of-his-ar*e-on-live-TV gobsmacking.

    The internet dating explosion (or should that be emission?) has seen the birth of a new species: the virtual polygamist. She spends hours a day online, excitedly browsing the most preened and primped profiles, and attending to unreal amounts of attention from cyber-suitors, rejecting here, enticing there, but never committing. It’s a whirlwind wankathon of binary flirting, stripped of any need for all that messy, face-to-face stuff we used to call relating. No one need ever know they’re lying about their age or weight, or that the photos are ten years out of date. The illusion that they can still pull like they did in their twenties can remain intact. Try to lure them away from the magic mirror and you will hear “Too busy this week, maybe next week.” But next week seldom comes – mutually-deceiving, multiple digital dalliances are so much easier, a kind of relationship porn. It’s the safest sex you’ll never have.

    The sweet shop ambiance of POF doesn’t help: there always appears to be a bigger, more colourful, juicier lollipop just one more (c)lick away. This leads people to have very short attention spans; as soon as the slightest hint of ‘non-quite-perfect’ arises, it’s delete and on to the next shiny prospect.”

    Got quite a few responses, but only from 4s and below.

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