Plan B

Roosh has a good post about date backup plans. I have little to add to the wisdom of having a Plan B for any first date, except to mention one thing I like to do. I sometimes have dates meet me at a bar on Trivia Night. (Yes, I’m a trivia nerd.) This is something I would have done regardless of the date, so I never feel like I’m going out of my way. This small tactical maneuver puts me in the right frame of mind of de-emphasizing the importance of the date. A woman likes to think that you have so many options that no one date means very much to you. Until she proves otherwise.

I usually show up before the trivia game starts and five minutes after the designated meeting time for the date. (Make it a habit to show up a little late for a first date. Women complain about lateness, but they can’t help being sexually intrigued by a man who flouts polite social convention.) If, on the outside chance, she flakes, I’m not out any of my time since I would have been there anyhow to play a game of trivia and drink good scotch. If the date doesn’t go well, I cut it short and head over to the other part of the bar where I can play. (If the girl awkwardly lingers in the bar after I say goodbye, I don’t let it fluster me. I know she feels a lot more awkward and will hightail it out of there once she sees that I have staked my ground.) If the date does go well, Trivia Night affords me an opportunity to have some fun with her, and showcase some of my most alpha trivia moves.

It helps to have friends who go to Trivia Nights regularly, because you can just join them in the fun, but it’s not necessary. I’ve played solo and with the staff, and joining other groups is not a big deal if you ask. Trivia Night is like a free love commune — superficially welcoming.





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  1. Never considered Trivia Night as a way to show DHV. It’s actually one of my long suits. Cool. Thanks.

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  2. alpha trivia moves? care to elaborate?

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  3. Great advice. I have a first meeting (I won’t call it a date) coming up that I’m not particularly excited about; a bar-and-grill with trivia would be perfect to let her know that she’ll have to work to get higher on my to-do list.

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  4. Even better, play AGAINST her at trivia, upping the ante with an interesting bet. A little friendly rivalry gets the ladies, everytime.

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  5. OT:

    “Male Organ and Economic Growth: Does Size Matter?”

    https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/27239/HECER-DP335.pdf?sequence=1

    Short dick=civilization (japanese style)

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  6. I do very well picking up chicks at trivia night at my local bar. Team trivia can be extremely social.

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  7. on July 28, 2011 at 10:49 am Artful Dodger

    Oh, no doubt. If there’s any one rule for alphas, it’s that you do what the hell you wanna do.

    I love playing pool, so I’ll invite chicks out to play pool all day everyday. That way I know at the very least I will have a good time. If she doesn’t, so be it. If she does, then it’s all to the good. It doesn’t make sense for both people to miserable on a date.

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    • This is a great date idea! I did it once and had a blast. And if there is chemistry, there is a great deal of sexual tension built in playing opponent type games like that for a date.

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      • Neecy

        This is a great date idea! I did it once and had a blast. And if there is chemistry, there is a great deal of sexual tension built in playing opponent type games like that for a date.

        you like to talk i bet so no triva nerdates for you. i’m taking you to a basketball game then chicken and waffles. you pay, of course

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      • I was thinking more like Sushi? I’m down for the B Ball game. Those r fun! And no, I’m not paying darnit!

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  8. on July 28, 2011 at 10:50 am Artful Dodger

    It’s also a good idea to play pool with women because of the “angles.”

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    • yep.

      don’t forget the symbolism as well….

      sticks and balls and holes

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    • Women only play pool with men for two reasons: 1. They’re serious players (rare) or 2. They want to get f*cked but don’t want to look easy.

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  9. on July 28, 2011 at 10:50 am Corporal Hicks

    Very good suggestion. I’ve done it myself.

    You’ve got to burst that HUGE female ego.

    If she’s public-school educated,
    native English-speaking,
    and grew up in modern-slim America,

    then Kupcake has the “I’m-Tinkerbell-and-a-brilliant-rocket-scientist-doctor-who’s-gonna-cure-cancer-princess” mentality. Do NOT fuel this raging inferno of self centered-ness. Have her at your side, fine. But IGNORE her and enjoy the trivia game.

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  10. “my most alpha trivia moves”

    Looking back, historians will note this as the point at which this blog jumped the shark.

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  11. Plenty of opportunity for AMOGing, DHVing, light negging (when she doesn’t know the answers), and venue bouncing (as soon as trivia ends, use that as excuse to bounce). Not a bad suggestion at all.

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  12. on July 28, 2011 at 11:11 am David Rockefeller

    . . . and Fonz wins the thread . . .

    alpha trivia moves — huh?

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  13. Aren’t most trivia bars a bit lame? I’d think showing you know the staff and other regulars at a trivia bar would be a DLV, cause if you spend much time sitting at a trivia bar it makes it seem like you don’t have much going on with your life.

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    • There are like 30 bars in this city that have trivia night, but the one I go to is a very trendy hotspot right now.

      It’s really never about what you do, it’s how you do it. Specific interests and activities aren’t going to automatically turn off any chick as long as you are bold and confident.

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  14. Dare I suggest that the whole topic of ‘flaking’ is over thinking things a little bit? An attractive chick, maybe even interesting, probably has a million things going on besides keeping a date with the 400th guy trying to get in her pants.

    Agreed on de-emphasizing the date. By the same token though, I’ve ‘flaked’ on girls a thousand times, stuff comes up. I might have a date set up with some cute things but then friends call, there’s some concert, or the weather is perfect for flying, or there’s some party … and I really might just get all ADD and forget about the date thing. Having a life can do that to a person.

    Myth of flaking, the way I see it: http://two.cedonulli.com/2011/07/the-myth-of-flaking/

    [Editor: I’ve forgotten dates, too. Usually when the girl is not as hot as other girls I’ve been with.]

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    • If you’re doing that intentionally to send a girl a message, that’s one thing.

      If you’re so messed up you can’t keep a commitment, e.g., you flake on a guy friend, you’ll just lose respect.

      Or that’s how it used to be, anyway. Kids these days….

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    • No fat chicks! (If ‘gina tingle is women’s end-all, be-all of relationships/fidelity today, men can be that way.)

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  15. on July 28, 2011 at 11:41 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey roissysy rosisssy who is this new poster Heartiste?

    as an expert editor i think they need sme help in tehir wirtings as it is nbot up to teh chateus’s lzozllzolzozo so here i helped them out soemems:

    PLAN B for BUTTHEHXHXHXHX

    Roosh has a good post about date backup (up the back hole zlozzllz) plans. I have little to add to the wisdom of having a Plan B (for BUTTHTHTEXXX) for any first date, except to mention one thing I like to do. I sometimes have dates meet me at a bar on Butthex Night. (Yes, I’m a butthex nerd.) This is something I would have done regardless of the date, so I never feel like I’m going out of my way to put my cocka in da poopchute. This small tactical maneuver puts me in the right frame of mind of de-emphasizing the importance of the date’s buttox. A woman likes to think that you have so many options to insert your coaks in that no one butthole means very much to you. Until she proves otherwise.

    lozlzozolzlozlzo

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    • *I actually made it through this post and understood most of it.* YAY ME! its going to be a good day today…..

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      • on July 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

        hey neecy i think uu and i ar elikely soul mates

        i take some getetieng used too lozlozzl maybe but

        you’ll like it when my cockas go gizzlzizzkzizlzllzlzlziizzlzlzlzlz while i go lzozlzolozozozozoozozozozozzozlzozz

        so many girls like the slowowl slow i promise i’ll just put the very tip in lzozlzl and theygo ok and pull their panties aside lzozlzo so i olnly put the very tip in lzozozo just like i said and then i take it out and zip up my pants lzozozoz and they go “whahahawwaa? What’s wrong? lzozozlzl?” and i go “I SAD JUST THE TIP!” sorry lzozozl and then they pout as i put the movie in and then after the movie

        OMFG

        they want it so hard and fast that like someitmes i don’t have enough ls, zs, and os to go zlozlzozzolozozozosososlzololzzozozlzozozloslolozzolzozlzozozozlzozozozozlsos ozlzlzzlozlsosozlz zoosls

        though i try my best zlzozllozzoosozzzzozol to please her and make her cum again zlzpolzlz

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      • on July 28, 2011 at 1:11 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

        oh and i forgot to say bring da movies!!!

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  16. We now need a post about showcasing alpha World of Warcraft moves. I.e., is it more alpha to peacock as a leather-clad thief, or to conduct caveman game as an orc?

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    • Haha! I once had a second date with a guy who professed his interest in WOW and my interest simply vanished. Kapoof! It sends a bad visual – guy locked in his room playing fantasy RP games for hours on end. What does the conversation end up being? What level are you on now?

      [Heartiste: My advice to guys who like to play video games on their downtime: Keep it between you and your avatar.]

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      • tenderbox is working up to the level
        of your fabulous rack
        he’s deciding on
        what floweres
        to bring
        you

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      • on July 28, 2011 at 6:19 pm Obstinance Works

        lolz

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      • Heartiste – it’s all a matter of how you present yourself. Ofcourse “Hey, I’m Jon and I play wow all day long” is not the best pickup line, but you can manipulate every profession or hobby to sound cool.

        And by the way, the hell happened with the address change?

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      • No, it really isn’t. In fact, if there’s one glaring counterexample to an otherwise-general rule that you can make any hobby sound cool, it’s “playing WoW”, which will never, ever be cool. At all.

        This is odd, because even an *actual* crack habit will get you laid.

        On the address change: I assume that all the moves away from the old name, combined with his apparent refusal to even talk about it, means that his anonymity in real life was being compromised… somehow. He obviously doesn’t wanna talk about it, so… let it go, man.

        That said, I think “Citizen Renegade” and “Heartiste” are both terrible names, sorry dude.

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      • Don’t worry, he was probably just a terrorist trying to find a plausible excuse for the lengthy amount of time he spent alone planning his future attack anyway.

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    • That’s like saying you watch Star Trek reruns in your parent’s basement and want to debate whether Spock or Data is cooler with women.

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  17. lulwut?

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  18. @ Nico

    Nice to see that half of men haven’t lost their minds. And I’m willing to bet at least 25 percent would dump their fat-assed girfriends—but we’re too afraid to say as much.

    There is hope yet.

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  19. I meant ’25 percent more’.

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  20. You should change your password…

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    • Does this comment have something to do with the old address going down? My CSI sense tells me it might. Did Nupi crack the password code? What could it have been? pumpanddump or tensonly or iloveaoefe? We will probably never know, it will remain a mystery…wait the password was Mystery!

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    • No he did not. He was alluding to the fact that arguing trivia night is Alpha is kind of out of character – hence check the password if someone else was posting.

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  21. on July 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm Neil Hansen

    I wouldn’t recommend going to trivia night. It seems like such a…trivial pursuit.

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  22. So, Heartiste, what’s up with the new url?

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  23. What the hell man? A warning would be nice if you are going to change the address. ; )

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  24. Well, wasn’t THAT fun?

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  25. There you are.

    Got hacked, did you?

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  26. Phew, I thought for a second the militant feminists had paid hackers to come after you.

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  27. I thought it was more likely that H was doing a dramatic, unannounced exit from blogging. Keyser Söze.

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  28. There you are …..

    greate you back ….

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  29. Can someone help me develop some alpha Jenga moves?

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  30. What’s trivia night? I picture something like BINGO going on…*shrugs*

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  31. Double book yourself like a yenta. Date 1 at 8:30, date 2 at 9:30 I told a girl on date 1 that I d’bd her and I saw her eyes light up like I just gave her magic cunnilingus. Good in a hotel with restaurant and bar in two distinct areas. It gets hilarious when you bounce back and forth. Date 1 can be banged at will.

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  32. Sounds like a certain Chinatown Bar I know.

    Between FB’s, friends, other women, and hobbies… there’s no reason a man should not have a Plan B.

    In fact, I bet there’s an ‘app for that.’

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  33. This doesnt really have anything to do with this subject. But as soon as I saw this I had to share.

    Video of guy trying to get his ex gf back. I think one of the commenters captured it correctly with “Fail on so many levels”

    http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/v/?width=192&height=120&yt=swcDeoZR0E8&flux=0&direction=rand

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  34. Keep down the paranoia, guys. If it indeed was hacked, it wasn’t me.

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    • What was the password crack comment about then?

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    • on July 29, 2011 at 3:54 pm Miley Cyrax

      Nupi, you’re officially an internet celebrity. You will forever be (mistakenly) known as the guy who “hacked” Roissy’s wordpress account.

      I’ve already seen this cryptic rumor spread far and wide, although without your name attached. Just people flipping out over your ominous message that was posted right before roissy.wordpress.com went down.

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  35. on August 1, 2011 at 2:04 am Mainkaracter

    Awesome

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