When Women Stop Loving Beta Males

A new study provides further confirmation of the CH view of women’s sexual nature. (For a review of the study run through a typical Slate writer’s nancification algorithm, see here.) Executive summary: women screw around with charming cads and ignore beta providers when their financial needs are met by the state or by a rich daddy, and their emotional needs are met by a supportive culture that condones the removal of all restrictions on female sexuality.

While a great diversity of sexual norms exist around the world, ranging from strictly enforced monogamy to polyamory, according to Scelza’s new study there are two environmental contexts where women commonly choose multiple partners. The first is where women have more material support from their kin or economic independence from men more generally. This may explain why multiple mating is most common among small-scale matrilocal societies (in which women remain in their home village after marriage), such as the partible paternity societies of South America or the Mosuo of China. It may also explain why female infidelity has increased in Western societies as women have gained greater political and economic independence. (For example, Iceland was ranked first in gender equality by the World Economic Forum in 2013 at the same time that 67 percent of children were born out of wedlock, the highest rate in the Western world.) Under this scenario, women choose multiple partners because they have more options available to them, they can rely on their support network during transitional times, and they have greater personal autonomy.

The second environmental context Scelza identified is where the sex ratio is female-biased (indicating a scarcity of men) or there is a high level of male unemployment (indicating a scarcity of men who can provide support). Women may be trying to “make the best of a bad situation and capitalizing on their youth to improve their reproductive prospects.” In such environments women tend to have higher rates of teen pregnancy as well as illegitimate births. Multiple mating may be a way of hedging their bets in an unstable environment. By pursuing an ardent sexual strategy, women are able to choose the best potential males as well as gain the support they need in order to maximize their reproductive success.

The Slate author digesting this study is another one of those borderline males suffering from cerebral Scalzi. You can tell by how dutifully he parrots feminist boilerplate in a vain effort to whitewash the real implications of the study or to redirect readers away from crimethink. “OMG I DON’T EVEN WOW JUST WOW SLUT SHAMING LET OUR WOMEN BANG TRUE SEXUAL EQUALITY WHEN WOMEN CAN SCREW AROUND LIKE MEN”.

If you can get past his vagina flapping, there are some nuggets of inference to be made. For instance, when the provisioning and support services of beta males are rendered extraneous by the economic self-sufficiency and pro-independent tankgrrl cultural agitprop afforded modern Western women, those women are more likely to chase alpha cads for fun and genetic profit. Chateau Heartiste called attention to this phenomenon years ago, and now ♥science♥ — as is its wont — has once again vindicated eagle-eyed CH observations about the machinery of the sexual market. (You gotta swim with the sharks to know how dangerous they can be.)

Or think about what a world of financially and sexually freed women pursuing an “alpha fux betas chucked” strategy looks like. Yeah, if Sub-Saharan Africa leapt to mind, you’re on the right track. A feminist utopia is not far removed in practice from the worst shit pits in the world. You take away any incentive for beta males to invest in cock carouseling post-prime women and to cooperate with shameless sluts to raise the next generation, and you are looking down the barrel of civilizational rot.

Luckily, there’s much ruin in a population group’s ingrained sexual mores. The West — still mostly white — has an evolved store of genetic imperatives that drive them to favor monogamy over promiscuity or free love “sex at dawn”-style polyamory. As Razib demurred, the problem with these sorts of studies so beloved by the degenerate freak mafia over at Slate et al., is that the “main gripe is not west vs. rest. eurasian ag. vs. rest”. In other words, be careful about international comparisons of sexual behavior; you may not like what the data imply about your beloved pet cultures.

But that Western store of monogamous feeling can run out, or become so warped from mismanagement that dysfunction blooms in the absence of once-venerated social constraints. Genetic predisposition can become overwhelmed by strong cultural forces acting in the opposite direction. Enervate the people of the West enough — acclimate their women to state largesse and shamelessness — and any desire for monogamy and paternal assurance will wilt under the pressure.

Pussboys who cheerlead for a female-led promiscuous feminist future have a blind spot regarding any blowback. It’s a “there’s no victim” party all the time for leftoids, who are incapable of considering the consequences of their childish, narcissistic acting out. Like most manginas, they lack the intellectual integrity to tackle the reality of female hypergamy, and wrongly assume that a free love paradise that impugns marriage and female chasteness will mean more sex for all men. No, what it will mean is more sex for alpha males.

No effort is given to understanding the male reaction to unfettered female sexual autonomy. Not a scintilla of curiosity how men will respond when women “choose multiple partners because they have more options available to them, they can rely on their support network during transitional times, and they have greater personal autonomy.” Do Western women live in a vacuum? Or do they live in a world where men exercise choice and respond to incentives? Where men loathe the prospect that their girlfriends or spouses might be carrying the love child of a DJ or yoga class instructor?

That feminist-lauded “support network” with Hillary-esque “it takes a village” overtones will surely become less supportive as increasing numbers of men disillusioned with the growing ranks of cad-chasing sluts drop out, taking their sweat and their money with them, ultimately depriving the state of its ability to transfer resources from men to women. Civilization banks on getting men to invest in its continuance, and the tool it uses is monogamy and guarantees of one woman-one man. If women renege on their end of the deal… well, don’t be surprised if men renege on theirs.

The sexual market is a giant biofeedback loop. More female economic and sexual autonomy will cause perturbations throughout every facet of life. And you don’t need to cast afar to see what a free love society that caters entirely to women’s sexual prerogatives means. Just listen for the sound of gunshots in the ghetto and the silence of empty playgrounds in the suburbs.





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  1. Another great write up, Heartiste. Nothing new here, but haunting nonetheless. So many childless good guys. So many sluts and dimwits and hauling around their brood of future criminals.

    Regardless of whether you believe in the Bible or not, it’s spot-on on this point: ALL evil begins with women’s “freedom” to choose the snake in the [gr]ass.

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    • on December 5, 2013 at 8:53 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      • most people don’t realize the connection between fiat money systems and corruption of public morals is nothing new, here’s another old book on the subject:
        mises.org/books/inflationinfrance.pdf

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      • Heartiste: “A feminist utopia is not far removed in practice from the worst shit pits in the world.”

        Precisely as The Frankfurt School planned it.

        Heartiste: “Civilization banks on getting men to invest in its continuance, and the tool it uses is monogamy and guarantees of one woman-one man. If women renege on their end of the deal… well, don’t be surprised if men renege on theirs.”

        Which is precisely The Frankfurt School’s goal in all of this – the complete destruction and annihilation and eradication of Western Civilization.

        Nothing less.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 8:56 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        hey zombie shane,

        over at dalrock’s blog there’s an an atheist named Boxer who keeps saying that the frankfurt school is the true answer and true father of Christ.

        http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/12/02/their-open-marriages-are-threatening-her-serial-monogamy/#comments

        http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2013/11/30/twisted-scripture/#comments

        “Boxer says:
        November 30, 2013 at 12:01 pm
        Dear GBFM:

        I had to do a thesis on the Frankfurt School (the Frankfurters, who you mention). Your salient points get lost in some inaccuracies. Let me see if I can be of any help…

        A central plank of communism is the abolition of the family. When Communism in the Soviet Union failed, they frankfurters came over here and decided to try a new strategy. They would infilitrate the schools and churches, turn the Great Books for Men on their heads while inverting their teachings, and transform the Gospel of Christ into communism, instead of What was Meant.

        The Frankfurt School was a loose collection of people who liked the ideas not only of Marx, but also of Freud, Husserl and Heidegger. They were originally centered in Germany (hence the name “Frankfurt” school). A few of them came to the USA, but it was decades before the USSR failed. Adorno, Marcuse and Löwenthal showed up during world war two. Marcuse worked for the OSS (the original foundation upon which the CIA was built) as a translator and interrogator, during and after the war.

        These guys were, certainly, Marxists, but they weren’t pro-USSR. After the war, Löwenthal worked for Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, and was quite motivated to try and destroy the USSR through propaganda. Marcuse wrote his most famous book “One-Dimensional Man” about how Soviet communism was really evolving in the same way as capitalism, and how the USSR stamped out any authentic humanity in its subjects through ideology. Adorno, Horkheimer, and their student Habermas became quite tied to the establishment in West Germany (the non-Soviet part of Germany, which was then in an undeclared war with the Soviet East). They were Marxists in a definite philosophical sense, but they were anti-Marxist-Leninists, in other words.

        It also ought to be noted that the Frankfurt school was not composed of men who were of one mind on anything. If you’ve ever read Freud, Marx or Heidegger, you’ll agree that you can get some pretty varied interpretations of them. Marcuse was thrown out of the Frankfurt School early on. Erich Fromm was a member of the Frankfurt School who was also, objectively, an “anti-Frankfurt school” theorist. Nearly all his later works denounced other members for hiding a totalitarian message in their works.

        If the USA was replacing Christianity with communism, what would be happening is that churches and synagogues and cathedrals would be blowing up, and people would be forced to go to “re education” and like that. It would be a sort of Stalinist society, and that’s not what we’re in. People in our society are actually allowed to be as free as possible, and their bad choices are subsidized. (In the USSR, single moms were thrown in jail, for example, not given lots of welfare money).

        So, I don’t think you’re correct. I do get your general point, mind you, and I agree with it. Ironically, a couple of members of the Frankfurt School would have liked and agreed with most of your ideas. Read Eros and Civilization (and when you’re done, read Freud’s Civilization and its Discontents). For a good starter. Critique of Instrumental Reason has an essay about capitalism devaluing the father figure. Adorno’s Negative Dialectics has some snippets about how divorce is an industry, and a perverse one at that. (Adorno was an Italian Catholic, aside from being a Marxist, and some of his stuff is really very appealing to social conservatives, believe it or not).”

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      • So, the idiot Boxer is saying that because the Frankfurters are trying to subvert the schools, churches, and other institutions from within rather than blowing up buildings and sending people to re-education camps, they aren’t actually doing what they are obviously doing.

        Got it. He’s an idiot. Although I hate the term Frankfurter school.

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      • “Destroy the family, you destroy the country.” –Vladimir Lenin

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      • “The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine.” Abraham Lincoln, 1761.

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      • Mission accomplished.

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      • Al Goldstein, the publisher of Screw, said “The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks. We don’t believe in authoritarianism.” Pornography thus becomes a way of defiling Christian culture and, as it penetrates to the very heart of the American mainstream (and is no doubt consumed by those very same WASPs), its subversive character becomes more charged.”

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      • GBFM has surely never read a word of either Dante or Milton. Certainly not Milton who being a big supporter of Divorce.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 8:52 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        hey you know whas funny?

        i dant’es inferno the usuers were in the same level as heel as the butthexers.

        in dante’s inferno the fiat masters were in teh same level of hell as teh butthexers!!! i ma not making this up!!!

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        (14), Sodomy (15-16), Usury (17)

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        http://danteworlds.laits.utexas.edu/circle7.html#violence

        “those who violate nature, God’s offspring (sodomites: Inferno 15-16); and those who harm industry and the economy, offspring of nature and therefore grandchild of God (usurers: Inferno 17). Identifying the sins of these last two groups with Sodom and Cahors (Inf. 11.49-50), Dante draws on the biblical destruction of Sodom (and Gomorrah) by fire and brimstone (Genesis 19:24-5) and the medieval condemnations of citizens of Cahors (a city in southern France) for usury. Dante’s emotional reactions to the shades in the seventh circle range from neutral observation of the murderers and compassion for a suicide to respect for several Florentine sodomites and revulsion at the sight and behavior of the lewd usurers. ”

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        The monstrous shape lands on the brink and Virgil salutes it ironically. It is GERYON, the MONSTER OF FRAUD. Virgil announces that they must fly down from the cliff on the back of this monster. While Virgil negotiates for their passage, Dante is sent to examine the USURERS (The Violent against Art). . . These sinners sit in a crouch along the edge of the burning plain that approaches the cliff. Each of them has a leather purse around his neck, and each purse is blazoned with a coat of arms. Their eyes, gushing with tears, are forever fixed on these purses. Dante recognizes none of these sinners, but their coats of arms are unmistakably those of well-known Florentine families. . . Having understood who they are and the reason for their present condition, Dante cuts short his excursion and returns to find Virgil mounted on the back of Geryon. Dante joins his Master and they fly down from the great cliff. . . Their flight carries them from the Hell of the VIOLENT AND THE BESTIAL (The Sins of the Lion) into the Hell of the FRAUDULENT AND MALICIOUS (The Sins of the Leopard). –p. 133, The Divine Comedy (The Inferno, The Purgatorio, and The Paradiso) by Dante Alighieri and John Ciardi
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      • Funny how usury and sodomy are associated with a particular ethnicity.

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    • on December 5, 2013 at 8:55 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      1. The best way to bernankify a woman is through her:
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      b) ear hole
      c) mouth hole
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      e) gina hoelez
      f) zlzozozlzolzozozoz

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      a) Goldman sax
      b) ben bernanke
      c) sosdoomy
      d) feminisst writer
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      4. The neoeocnths promote butyhe buttehxt so as to
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      b) beernakify your owmenz and ruin them as motehrz
      c) pwn your owmenz and addict them to buttehxt
      d) plant the butthextual longing seed that leads to divorce
      e) detsory the fmaily to put your chcildren in beernaneke day care
      f) all of da above zlzozooozlzoz

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      b) BEn BErnnanke
      c) Bill Crrystal
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      e) bene shapriorz
      d) none of teh abaovez lzozozozozoozoz

      6. Sigmund Freud stated that the one question that puzzled him most was “What do women want?” The famous polymath poet/psychologist GBFM figured it out circa 2011. According to the great GBFM, women want:
      a) beta fucks and alpha buckz
      b) beta bucks and betasz fucks
      c) alpha fucks and alpha fucks
      d) alpha fucks and beta bucks
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      7. The best way to gt a publishing deal with a publishing house run by women, or to be featured in a consertaive magazine article penned by women is to:
      a) write exlated rhyming poetry
      b) butthext a girl and tape it secrtely without her ocnctnt conthent
      c) write a story with plot, values, and honor, like homer’s odyssey
      d) write a shakeparean sonnet with imanbic pentaammeneterz and a couplet dat ryems at da end lzozlzlzozozoz

      8. The difference between modern ministers and pimps is dat
      a) pimps will not charge you for past use of a pussy
      b) pimps are not fronting a divorce regime which transferz money from menz to owmenz and the state at gunpoint
      c) a pimp cannot garnish your wagesz if yo ho beocme preggeersenenlzlzlzlzo
      d) a pimp does not ask for donationz
      e) a pimp doesn’t claim he’s doing god’s work by grating you temporal use of a pussy in esxhange for past, present, and future wages
      f) all of da aboveez zlozlozlzlzozozoz

      10. If a womanz is a 3 and 7 alphas pump and dump her in collegez, she will do the math and conldue she is a
      a) 3-7 = -4
      b) 7-3 = 4
      c) 7+3=10 I AM A TEN ZLZOZOZOZO!!!!!!

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      b) It guarantees that there will be men with assetetzzz that can be rapaed via dirrvoece
      c) granpda said so, “when i was your age son,” i was married and supporting a family. man up and marry da whos!!! lzozloz”

      12. The chronalogical chroniloogical chronological economic relationshpipz between ass and assets is:
      a) da bankerz get your wife’s ass in college (as thy sefctrievly tape her doeusling in a buttehxtual buttehxting sessisin like tuukker max rheyems woith godlman saxxx) and your assets after divorce
      b) your wife givez her azz butthoele away for free in college, and then chagegegrs you moneyz (assetts) just to look at it
      c) your wife is butthurt after her ass is plundered in college and den she takes her revenge by plundering your assettsst
      d) da bankerz deosul your wife in college by bebenrnakaifying her in her buttholez ass, and den dey program her to transfer your assets to them, fgruataleyfliey transferring your assets out theorugh her bngohole and into their beenrbeeknake bank acocuntz zlzozozozoz
      e) all of da above zlozzolzozoz

      FEEL FREE TO ADD YOUR OWN QUESTSIOZNZZZZZ!!!! lzozozozoozoz

      ESSAY QUESTION: Describe thee relationship between usury and sodomy. Those who cite Milton, Dante, and other historical sources and figures will be given higher scorezz zlzozolzlozlzozlzzozozozozlz

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      #11. I like dating aemrican womenz and western womenz beacues:
      a) i like paying for what otherz got for fre when it was younger hotter tghtr twnety poundz lighterz lzozooz
      b) i like paying for rental carsz after i return them
      c) i like urinalz dat make me pay and make small talk each time i pee
      d) i like suiting up in a hazmat suit, self-contained breathing apparatus, snorkel, fins, and thre cans of lysol when i go down on pusysysysys zlzozozlzo
      e) i like hearing about how men created all the evil in the world including shoppng malls, cars, ipodz iphonez twitter (clitter/twatter) and even cinabun zlzozozolzozzl

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      • CH is this the kind of shit you guys allow on your site? This crap is unreadable.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 9:31 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        zlzoozlzlzozozlz plsz dont no be a playa hata!! zlzlzolzozzzlzo

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      • GBFM is the Joyce of our times. Ignore his wisdom at your peril.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 9:35 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozozoz

        Joyce was da GBFM of his timez zlzozozolzlzlzozoz

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      • I stand corrected, and bow before the Master.

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      • Man, it’s good to have the GBFM back in full force.

        I hope his baby doesn’t get colic.

        Colic is a bitch.

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      • True but most of Joyce’s stuff is unreadable.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 5:33 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

        And there lies his genius.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 8:49 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        most of yourz monz twat is unediblelzozizlzzozlzoz

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 9:36 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        y do u hatez poeteriesz? zlzolzlzlz

        ALPHA FUCKS & BETA BUCKS DAT IS HOW WE ROLL! lzozozozo DA GBFM rveoltoutinez da internetz woolrd with his ALPHA FUCKS BETA BUCKS POEM Zlsososlzlzl zlzlozozozooz alpha fux and beta bux poetry poeteriesz lozozozzo poem poem poem poetry lzlzlozozoz

        ALPHA FUCKS & BETA BUCKS DAT IS HOW WE ROLL! lzozozozo

        DA GBFM rveoltoutinez da internetz woolrd with his ALPHA FUCKS BETA BUCKS POEMZ zlzlozozozooz

        http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23971.html “Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry “


        Post: #3RE: Alpha fux Beta Bux poetry
        GBFM is a genius.
        “alpha fucks and beta bucks” — GBFM”
        “There is a strange hypnotic brilliance to GBFM.”
        “Yeah – his Matrix responses are the best.”
        “I think GBFM is Sven Thompson. Read the comment section how he mentions exactly the books GBFM always mentions. He is completely serious here though.”

        dey be sytitfying an dparsisnig da gbfm at roossh zlozlozoz
        http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-23366.html

        “GBFM? What dat’ about?
        I am fascinated by Great Books For Men – but I cannot figure him out.

        Anyone got any theories?

        Also – if I can find it. I will post up one of my favourite comments by him. It is one of the funniest, most bizarre and yet profound comments I have come across.

        [EDIT] – Okay I found it. I love this song from GBFM…

        “da professional womenz ode”

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread

        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo

        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats”

        http://therationalmale.com/category/hypergamy-2/

        “Chick Logic

        In the past I’ve described the female sexual strategy as schizophrenic, but what it really is is pluralistic. All the jokes you read as 4Chan memes about ‘chick logic’ are only funny because we all have an intrinsic, largely unspoken, understanding of this sexual pluralism. The female sexual response is characterized by a dual nature, Alpha fucks and Beta bucks.

        That’s the simplistic, distilled version ready for easy consumption and understanding, but the feminine sexual response is much more detailed on an individual level, and much more significant on a social level than just this jargon. Every stimulus bearing on the feminine, from how she’ll explain her girl’s night out to her LTR Beta, to how women in the workplace can rejigger legislature to create a society directed by the feminine imperative, all come back to the Alpha fucks / Beta bucks equation for optimizing Hypergamy.”

        lzozoozozozozo graphic!!!
        http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3qzzuz/

        lzoozozozoozozozoz omg zlzoozozozo
        http://theobserverwatches.blogspot.com/2013/02/europe-trying-to-hide-alpha-fucks-beta.html

        http://www.returnofkings.com/3303/american-women-are-mad-they-arent-courted-anymore

        “Yes…a friend of mine sent me this article the other day. I laughed really hard. What it is talking about was entirely predictable…and was predicted by many. Women are chasing the alphas and only accepting beta chumps to pay the bills.”

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/woman-admits-to-alpha-fux-beta-bux-dating-strategy/
        “Woman Admits To “Alpha Fux, Beta Bux” Dating Strategy” lozozozozozzoz

        http://theprivateman.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/dating-2-0-a-definition/
        “Dating 1.0 was murdered way back in the late 1960s by knife-wielding and birth control-taking women who wanted alpha fucks and beta bucks and so spawned Dating 1.5 where alpha guys had it made and beta men were kept in the dark. Until the Internet and the Manosphere, Dating 1.5 reigned supreme. But now that men are finally figuring out the score, Dating 2.0 has emerged. The only scenario by which we could return to something even vaguely resembling Dating 1.0 is when private, effective, male birth control is widely available.”

        http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/07/11/over-promise-under-deliver/
        “ybm says:
        July 11, 2012 at 3:07 pm
        Forgive me if I don’t celebrate women turning against feminism. What will they replace it with is a good analysis to look at:

        -They’ll convince men that they are weak, dainty, inferior little creatures who need a man to protect and guide them.
        -They’ll probably want to go back to being able to stay at home while hubby works 60+ hours a week at a pay lower than inflation adjusted incomes from the 60s.
        – The divorce/alimony/child support/ racket will be kept
        – Alpha fucks beta bucks is a genie that wont be going back into the bottle, neither will female promiscuity.
        – They will expect chivalry from men again. Including men being conscripted to fight wars for them, ‘women and children first’ and the man always paying on dates.

        Some victory. Congrats men! Lay done your arms, the war is over! WE WON!!

        And I think for the majority of idiot males, they’d actually think they won.”

        zlzozoozozoz

        extra extra large t-shrirtss 4 all da bernankakfied womenzz wedidng addition bridesmaiidszz lzlzozozozozo!!!

        i need to send dat fatass birdemadedz some t-shirts!!!!!!

        http://www.cafepress.com/greatbooksformen.582539775

        “da professional womenz ode”

        SPECIAL WEDDING EDITION

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul
        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread
        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz

        SPECIAL EDITION WEDDING CHORUS lzozozozo

        i gave it 4 free when i was younger hotter tighter
        back in college when i was thirty pounds lighter
        can’t hardly wait to butthext yyou in divorce court
        and have you fund my favorite buttehxtual sport
        gonna buy sexy lingerie with all dat alimonee
        fuck & suck alpha cocks as ur beta cock is just 4 pee
        tee hee hee teee heee heee l
        tee hee hee teee heee heee !
        i’m da modern liberated womanz
        i buttehxt before and after marriage
        and during it too, but not with you
        but with the father of da baby in da carriage
        lzozozzlozoz

        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats

        zlzlzzozozozo

        zlzoozozozozo

        https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/06/03/big-mistake/

        lozozozozozozz

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      • Don’t forget the one cock rule

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 10:56 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzolzozozozo

        ONE COCK RULESZZ !!!! lzlzozozoz

        zlzozoozozoz

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 10:57 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozozozoz

        http://exceedandlead.com/2013/04/gbfms-one-cock-rule/ reportz z

        The venerable poet GBFM has graced the bernankifed desouled masses with another gem. I present his ode to The One Cock Rule and Three Cock Rule respectively.

        ———————————————————————————————————

        OMG both of you betado9uches above are violating THE ONE COCK RULE!!!

        You are alloowing chix to bring other COCKS into your mind lozlzlzzoz zlozllzl. The second a chick makes me think of another cock she is outta my house outta my mind or if she’s texting on a date which almost never happens because i almost never date i go “i gotta use the men’s room lzozlzl” and then i leave her with the bill. she can text her ten other cocks to comne over and pay for her drniks/dinner lzozlzlzllzlzlz and then,. after paying, they have full right to gizizizizizalizzz all over her lzozlz

        “I’ve been seeing this girl for a year. We live together and I’ve still got hand.”

        OMG lzozzlzll wtf are fuckity fucks doing with chix in your homes? lzozlzlzlz omg lozlzlzlzlzl looozers lzozlzlzlz1!! hzhzh

        THEY VIOLATE THE ONE COCK RULE THEY ARE OUT! OUT!

        OUT!

        O U T OUT! lzozlzlzl

        OMG lozlzlzozlozozolzl wft r u doing dating a chick 4 a yer did your dick fall off? Were yu chosen by Beernanke and given an award and medal to support today’s slutty slutt vampiressses cuckholders cockcutters?

        sounds 2 me it is the latter as u have no cock lzozlzlzlzl lzzozl

        and she made you think of another cock

        fucktard haven’t u heard of the one cock rule?

        let’s teach these douches somethin ’bout nbein a man yo!

        throw a beat over this way.
        yo yo yo yo
        yo yo yo

        now hit it!

        one cock rule one cock rule
        i ain’t no beta fool i ain’t no beta tool
        about another cock ya make me think
        i’m gone, yo bitch,
        let the betas buy yas yer next drink

        one cock rule one cock rule
        i ain’t no beats fool i ain’t no beta tool
        over vampires and werewolfe you ginas all drool
        letting their cocks touch your deep down stool
        then you blame the betas in school
        and transfer wealth for the bernanke gene pool
        jonah goldberg sends our alphas 2 die on foreign shores
        stuffing his face with dc pizza as they die in fiat wars
        neocon womenz repeating butthexers lies in their mags
        even after menopause and no need for da ragz
        telling young chickas to lust after vampires
        as they build their fiat empires

        one cock rule one cock rule
        i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
        about another cock ya make me think
        i’m gone, yo bitch,
        let the betas buy yas yer next drink

        let the betas pay to raise your bastard kids
        let the betas sign teh fiat masters marriage contracts
        theft in fiat inflation is hid
        as they swing their bankrupting axe
        i don’t care what last night u did,
        ever since i kicked ya gina out, i been relaxed.

        as they promote butthex across the land
        ripping out fetuses from parenthood planned
        as fathers form teh homes the neocons ban
        the atalnatic authoresses just don’t undertsand

        but when chix wakes up and her butt is sore
        it’s not my fault no–it’s cause she’s a whore
        as the fiat masters desoul women with butthex cock
        teach them to transfer wealth with pre-teen strumpet rock

        one cock rule one cock rule
        i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
        about another cock ya make me think
        i’m gone, yo bitch,
        let the betas buy yas yer next drink

        womenz womenz bernanke took advanatge of you
        you wasted your best years on vampires and werewolves
        and now you cry your tears cause of your sore anus
        stamp your little feet saying, “you betas must pay for this!!!”

        and aging neocon women promoting butthexing vampires
        teacxhing women to lust after the undead
        as the neocons suck the western world dry
        bankrupting it all,m enlsaving it debt
        while selfish womenz at the atalnatic monthly
        cry cry cry
        cry cry cry
        not for you or me
        but for themselves
        not for the 50,000,000 aborted souls
        but for their dried up ginas and sore assholes
        so many chances they had to marry a nice guy
        but he left her dry
        so whe butthexed with the asshole
        and now see her cry
        and wonder why
        and transofrm the entire univeristy
        into a program to further the fiat lie
        to transfer wealth and wage war and death
        to about fifty million more
        and redefine fifty cocks in her ass as empowered
        and not a whore

        all together now!

        lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
        lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
        lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

        one cock rule one cock rule
        i ain’t no fool i ain’t no tool
        about another cock ya make me think
        i’m gone, yo bitch,
        let the betas buy yas yer next drink
        alreayd seen yer pink stink
        bent ya over the sink

        and howscomes the bankers southpark never does satarize
        because everything is fair game–truth love honor–excpet for fiat butthexing lies.

        all together now!

        lzozllzzl lozlzlz zlozozoz
        lozlzl lzozozlz ozlzooz zlo9oo
        lozlzlz ozlzoozl ozlzlzoz lzozlz zlzoz zlzozzlozlzozlo

        AND THREE COCK RULE:

        ^^^^ to the 24 for or so tardbetadouches who voted my “one cock rule” rap down

        lozlzlzlzlozzllzlzlzlz

        what do ya want?

        a two cock rule rap?

        or three cock rule?

        three cock rule, three cock rule,
        i’m a beta herb my own cock won’t do
        i need a chick to cuckold me
        i need a chick on me to pee
        three cock rule, three cock rule,
        i love being the greater fool
        one cock in her mouth, one in her anus,
        i keep mine in my pants,
        and pay her bills and rent and fare for da bus.
        so she can club and grind, on denim cocks dance.
        three cock rule, three cock rule,
        i treat my lady like a nice guy,
        give her chivarly while with 2 others she doth lie,
        three cock rule, three cock rule,
        while your cock doth touch her stool,
        i play videogames @ home in my single mom’s basement,
        as teh fed fianance feminsits studies @ school,
        teaching her to love and bail out the butthexers,
        to persucte me 4 letting her live 4 free,
        while she tickles drummer/druggie cock until it goes
        splooge splooge splooge! tee hee tee hee!
        three cock rule, three cock rule,
        i’m the beta herb, teh cuckholded fool,
        i respect her, keep my cock in my pants,
        fund her with other cocks to dance.

        lozlzlzlzl

        or would u betaherbs prefer a five cock rule rap! omg i bet someofya would like dat! lzozl

        lzozozozo

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      • Welcome back professor gbfm I aced your test. A critique if i may, a little shorter for the add generation next time.

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      • > “Welcome back professor gbfm I aced your test.”

        Man, I flunked it.

        There were some of them questions with so many good answers that I didn’t know which one to choose.

        I was all, “This one. No, this one. No, make it this one…”

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      • Zombieshane drinks for both of us that pos mandela finally kicked the bucket.

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      • Bro every word he writes is true. Read carefully.

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      • You’re being far too charitable.  GBFM has to be a provocateur trying to discredit game and men’s rights.

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      • Da GBFM is da Genius!!! He is highly readable.

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      • Listen man… you are new. I thought this too at first and was like what the fuck is with this aspergy ADHD ‘tard. BUT— You have to look a little deeper.

        Remember the end of the movie The Matrix when Neo could see all the code flowing in the walls, agents, etc?

        When you understand GBFM, it is just like that. To the novice, they just see code. But when you let yourself be free then you see structure, order, and truth.

        Free your mind.

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      • > “To the novice, they just see code. But when you let yourself be free then you see structure, order, and truth.”

        This.

        > “Free your mind.”

        Word.

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      • It’s schticky but a little hard to blame him, given the message is “Fiat money handed out easy by the government corrupts people’s personal morals.” That used to be common knowledge but you try prophesizing that message with a straight face, no sugar coating added to the medicine, in a deconstructionist society. To people who honestly believe that they have progressed such that human nature is a blank slate that can be infinitely socially engineered, history (as well as much of the rest of the humanities) boils down mainly to an oppression tale of white/male/het people being mean to everyone else, and past experience is made up by the white het males and therefore irrelevant … well it seems completely ridiculous. And so most so-called conservatives have given up on it and don’t even dare say it out of fear of Slate/Gawker/HuffPo. You may not like the writing style but at least we have someone still willing to call it what it is.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 7:11 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        GBFM – an attention whore. Which gender is EXPECTED to behave thusly?

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      • His medium brilliantly reinforces his message. Only a fool would disregard the GBFM.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 1:18 pm ballsweatsoop

        In the immortal words of the GBFM… tu;df!!!

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      • Stick around Pup.
        GBFM has not yet begun to btthext.

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      • It is like that old quote “don’t butthext your load until you see the brown’s of her eye!” — or something… 😀

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      • Im pretty sure GBFM has been with all of our moms.
        We have to go to work sometime.
        lzlollzzzzllzzzollzz

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      • It’s for those who have ears to hear. You should just skip right over it.

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      • I agree I wish he’d ban this fucking guy

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      • “ESSAY QUESTION: Describe thee relationship between usury and sodomy. Those who cite Milton, Dante, and other historical sources and figures will be given higher scorezz zlzozolzlozlzozlzzozozozozlz”

        Everyone’s favorite Economist ass-packer and usurer extraordinaire John Maynard Keynes opined: “In the long run, we’re all dead.” If that doesn’t inspire you to a life of future-orientation, nothing ever will. Those who expect very soon to descend in to the Great Void are often enthusiastic practitioners of plunging their members into the Small Voids of their fiat-value neighbors.

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      • Everyone’s? Bitch, please… Krugman is my personal favorite, so speak for yourself.

        I kinda pity Krugs, tho’, because I’m pretty sure that he knows that he’s just being kept around because he says the Right Things(tm). Pressed into service, is he, to help maintain the illusion of solvency until such time as somebody figures out Cold Fusion, or aliens invade. And he continues because it gets him a doggie biscuit and invitations to all the right parties. Journalism is the art of the second thought, but Krugs will have none of that. No, it’s straight regurgitation of the party line and then off to the next party. Good doggie!

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      • Favorite insane Krugman quote: “You can’t print too much money in a recession.”

        The Weimar Republic. Zimbabwe. Brazil. Greece. Oh, but real-life experiences are biased against Krugman’s socialist Keynesianism, and therefore unreliable sources of information.

        John Maynard Keynes, Paul Krugman, Allan Greenspan, Ben Shalom Bernanke, Janet Yellen – I forget, what Tribe do these belong to again? Is it the Tribe that never tells Israel to print itself into inflation since that would be foolish, but approves of money printing in the West to give handouts to allied groups even as the inflation kills off the savings of the Western middle class?

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      • I forgot Jacob Lew (Secretary of the Treasury) and Neal Wolin (Deputy Secretary of the Treasury) and … but you get the picture.

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      • And Hank Paulson.

        And Lloyd Blankfein.

        And NY Fed Chairman Timothy Geithner, who secretly funnelled $1BILLION t Blankfein in December 2008.

        And Timothy Geithner’s father, Peter Geithner, who financed Stanley Ann Dunhams career in micro-finance.

        And on and on and on…

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      • Dregs Elliot comes a lot harder when you call him a Jew while you bugger him. Assk me how I know.

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      • I didn’t know Krugman was an actual faggot, I though only an ideological one. But it would make a ton of sense if he not only enjoyed fucking over American males economically/ideologically, but also physically.

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      • He said John Maynard Keyes was a faggot. Actually, he was just a victim of the British private school system. After age 30 or so he re-oriented himself to women.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 7:30 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        Get your ass out the Monday-Night-ESPN-potato-couch, and TAKE those Treasury jobs away from us. Oh, I forgot….. you’d need a functioning set of testicles to do that.

        We don’t want your trashy women, so we will just rent them out to the New Zimbabweans.

        Get your 1140s filled out on TIME, please. We’ve got bar mitzvahs to fund!

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      • Riiiiiiiight… because obviously it’s a level playing field…

        And if we goys just work a bit harder, we’ll GET those government and finance positions.

        And then we’ll start working on those MSM inroads… especially Hollywood.

        Enjoy it while it lasts, Yiddler.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 10:10 pm Greg Eliot is a retard

        Ignore the incoherent shitposter that is known as ‘Greg Eliot’. He is an old sneaker-wearing SWPL geezer of a retard that is only known here for his tongue being wedged so far up Matt King’s ass-crack that he even defended that religious fraud when Matt made fun of children with down’s syndrome, and even compared it to Jesus’s rebuke of the Sanhedrin (!).

        This is the first post I have ever seen from that deranged idiot that doesn’t mention things like “South Park”, “fairies”, and calling people “company men” as if it were insulting. He talks to people as if he were stuck in the 1930’s.

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      • @Greg Eliot is a retard

        lol. Greg Eliot is a retard. That’s why he’s here day and night – cuz he has nothing better to do with his geezer old self. lozlolzolozlozllosllloz

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      • on December 6, 2013 at 2:50 am Carlos Danger

        He’s married to a frumpy looking Asian woman. Krugman doesn’t look like he has a sexual presence to speak of, straight or gay.

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      • Eliezer Ben Yehuda, bullshit. No goy wants a FedGov job in Finance/Fed Reserve. Why not? Because that’s not a job, it’s professional theft with State approval. Only kikes want jobs like that, only kikes conceive of jobs like that, and only kikes resist abolishing jobs like that. 100 years ago we had no ZOG FED perpetrating national rape, and 100 years ago we also had no Feminine Imperative. Both were great for the Jews who invented them.

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      • Looks like Greg Eliot hit more than a few hot spots on the hasbara hit parade…

        Well, actually it’s just a yiddling sock puppy attempting to display strength in numbers.

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      • And apparently there are STILL a few numbskulls that don’t recognize the Glengarry Glen Ross homage gleaned from Pacino’s berating of Spacey.

        C’mon, you South Park snarkers… a short attention span is one thing, but THAT level of obtuseness is a disgrace to the Aborigine race.

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      • @Edward Waverley

        All those angry ignorant guys that speak ill of the FED reserve stupidly think that once it’s abolished everything will be right with America again. As usual, their complaining is just another scapegoat and just another excuse as to why they can’t make it in the land of plenty, as opposed to people who have made it. Only disgruntled types moan and groan over the FED. Yet, a modern advanced society can’t exist without some type of central banking system. It’s not the world of 100 years ago. We’re in the information age; everything is done electronically. Welcome to modernity. Well, on second thought, most of you don’t know what modernity is. Some of you don’t even use a smart phone. lol but you sure want to fuck 18-year olds, right? Who are you yoyos kidding?

        That’s why the opinions of people like you don’t count shit.

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      • I’m always amazed at the number of words and hot air expended by those who tell others their opinions don’t count.

        Wake up to yourself, sock puppy.

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      • And your opinions Greg Eliot definitely don’t cunt. Since when is an ignoramus taken seriously?

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      • thank god you’re back to fill the spergquota

        is the answer key: lzozollzlo

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      • E. Michael Jones on sodomy & banking, part I:

        Part II:

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  2. Exactly this. Exactly this! This is your best post yet. Thank you, CH. Seriously dude. Thank you so much for running this blog and this article. God damn it, I wish every single mangina and female in the United States could be forced to read and study this. Study it until they get it. But, of course, even if that happened, 95% of women literally would not even be able to comprehend Truth, let alone accept it. They are literally not wired to understand these things for the reasons explained a few threads ago.

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    • Which is why men have to stop being beta manginas and use the force of LAW to constrain female hypergamy. The law of private property and marriage as it is supposed to be. Frankly, men have to force women to need a man. I am right and this is not beta bitterness. This is literally true and it is true whether Scray can get laid or not. Seriously dude. Scray, read this post carefully. Just do it. I got laid in my 20s too, dude, before I had a YaReally and blogs to coach me. It’s not about that. Last comment today CH.

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      • True, Grim. That a man should have to give a woman half his paycheck because they used to be married is insane. There might have been some reason behind it when women didn’t earn a paycheck, but that was a long time ago. The reason the law can’t be changed now is simply that politicians are afraid of the feminists and their media allies.

        In most Western countries the law is simply this: in a divorce, the assets created during the marriage are divided in proportion to income. The spouse who has brought in 60 percent of the money during the marriage will get 60 percent of the assets created during the marriage. But if one spouse has had very little or no income, that spouse is still guaranteed a base amount from the assets in the marriage.

        And naturally, whatever you owned before you entered the marriage will be yours after the marriage.

        And … that’s it. After money and mutual possessions have been divided, both are as they were before the marriage, with no obligations to one another. Because a divorce is about getting away from each other and undo the ties, isn’t it? It is not about being forever tied together.

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      • Wish I’d payed more attention to that. Our income was 66/33 but we split assets – total assets, including what I’d accumulated before marriage – right down the middle. But I was still a beta sucker when we divorced and did “what was right for the children.”

        Of course today, seven years later, I’ve more than doubled my assets and she went bankrupt, even with that big child support check I send her every month. And that will end soon as the youngest child either ages out or (much more likely) moves in with me. It will be…interesting.

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      • Enjoy watching the destruction of her soul.

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      • I enjoy far more the thousand-yard stare in the eyes of her current husband.

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      • > “And that will end soon as the youngest child either ages out or (much more likely) moves in with me. It will be…interesting.”

        Do everything you can to get custody.

        Either hit her hard with a massive lawsuit showing her to be a totally unfit mother.

        Or else pivot 180 degrees away from that approach and use some weird Game-esque reverse psychology technique to trick her into giving you the kids.

        Or something.

        Whatever it takes.

        But get the kids, man.

        Get the kids.

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      • You cant expect her boyfriend to conribute much,as he works only sporadically as a crack dealer and aspiring rapper

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      • ummm…..even if you force a woman to be your wife and depend on you, you can’t force her to love you ya big dummy. Make the laws equitable, sure…but how about we also acknowledge the sad truth: most men, now and then, have been weak. There’s a reason only 40% historically have reproduced. You must accept the reality — if a woman gives you her love, the it’s yours to lose. If it’s lost, then you lost it. And the fact that so many men are whining, using the same sort of histrionics as the supposed enemy, is proof positive that ya…most are just weak. Live your life with self-respect and strength and things will work out.

        And it’s awesome you got laid in your 20s, brah!

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      • Nowhere did I say I want to force her to love me. You still don’t get it. I don’t care about that as women are incapable of love. I want the law to force a situation that produces a safe, stable society for my kids.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 1:43 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        …what are you going to do, keep her in a cage?

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      • Don’t be ridiculous. She can’t do the dishes if she’s in a cage.

        [CH: excellent frame steal.]

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      • I like the idea of a “if you fuck it, you bought it” sticker.

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      • You and Amy are *really* demonstrating women’s inability to use logic or argue fairly today. Seriously. I don’t need your support of proper marriage & family law, because when law was done correctly you could not vote or be a judge. I’m not an asshole for saying that. That’s how it was in all societies on earth for 10,000 years until the blip on the map USA less than 100 years ago.

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      • BTW u should just get out of here and go back to Huff Post. I am convinced you are my ex GF. Also, Huff Post is literally a HORROR SHOW. It is a horror show but it is your Bible and you cannot even understand why I’m saying that. It is maddening.

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      • Yeah, agree with you there Grim… where’s that troll from last week?

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      • Don’t mind RD – the resident bitter old harpy will shriek at you anytime “love” and “women” are mentioned in the same sentence together.

        She does everything masculine from shoot guns to drink whisky, and the only thing more pathetic than her flat chest or her 3 inch clit-dick is her deranged mind after being poisoned from years of being pumped and dumped by alphas.

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      • on December 6, 2013 at 8:37 am RappaccinisDaughter

        You’re wrong about not needing our support, Grim. You do need the fMRAs. Accept us or be damned.

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      • RD I am already damned.

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      • I don’t care about that as women are incapable of love

        lolwut. Faulty premise. Women are definitely capable of love. The love they give — just like the love a man gives — is conditional. Why is this such a hard pill to swallow? You may fail to realize it, but this tact your taking now is just another form of pedestalization.

        For some reason, you don’t care about love between Father and Mother, Husband and Wife. What the fuck kind of stable society is that? Do you think children — daughters — watching a Wife henpeck her inept and weak Husband all day for 18 years is much better than a single mother, with regard to how those children will behave in the sexual marketplace?

        Forcing unhappy marriages seems to be your solution. You seem to think that men need offer nothing else. Where’s the accountability? Do you see a lot of the same behaviors you accuse ‘women’ of reflected in this position you’re espousing?

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      • Can love be conditional? Have fun with that.

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      • “Do you think children — daughters — watching a Wife henpeck her inept and weak Husband all day for 18 years is much better than a single mother, with regard to how those children will behave in the sexual marketplace?”

        Thank you for showing your inability to not think rationally or even identify and perform cause and effect analysis. Even single parents do a better job than single mothers and that’s a proven fact. By the way, whether you like it or not, unhappy marriages have always existed, and most unhappy marriages can make do and in ancient tmes (150 years and backwards) henpecked husbands were RARE not the norm. By the way most men couldn’t reproduce because they were killed in wars, fights or simply in their work (back then most jobs were out there making things mostly).

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      • “You and Amy are *really* demonstrating women’s inability to use logic or argue fairly today. Seriously. I don’t need your support of proper marriage & family law, because when law was done correctly you could not vote or be a judge.”

        You’re arguing RD’s husband legally purchased her womb, and we’re the ones divorced from reality? I wish you understood that men like you hurt your own cause much more than any woman could. Go ahead, spew hate, insult and alienate every single woman around you, including the ones who actually care about men’s rights. And get back to us on how that’s working out for you.

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      • Go ahead, spew hate

        Leftoid.

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      • Actually Amy,
        That was me that argued he had purchased her womb,
        And I’m dead serious.
        Despite what you’ve been led to believe, marriage is the purchasing of a womans services in exchange for a mans labor which is a contr…
        You know what? Never mind.
        You’re a woman. Explaining these things to you in no way helps you,
        It only serves to reinforce your belief that you are in fact equal to a man and not, as nature designed you, to bask in his dominance and render your subservience in exchange for his resources and protection. You remind me of a child wobbling around the house in daddys shoes exclaiming you’re going to work, which is cute at first but needs to end around the age of twelve.

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      • Actually that was me who said the womb was purchased.
        You “female mens rights activists” are all the same, trying to elbow your way into the mens club, desperate for attention.
        What you don’t understand is that, apart from being the entertainment around here, you literally contribute nothing of value. You cannot understand the world around you as biological forces did not equip you with the necessary tools for processing the information you take in, and your attempts to do so are about as cute and effectual as a child walking around in daddys shoes talking about going to work.

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      • on December 6, 2013 at 5:32 pm Carlos Danger

        They are capable of love, just not unconditionally love towards a man. They’ll come close for the right alpha though. But face it, no love between a man and a woman is going to be unconditional. Everyone has selfish needs they expect their partner to meet for them. If they aren’t met, then the feeling of love towards the partner they feel is falling down takes a major hit. There are varying levels of importance and people might be willing to take a hit in some areas if others are satisfied. Still, there’s a tipping point for everyone.

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      • Guys look, I know I came here only 6 months ago as a sniveling beta that cried about how short he was and how women won’t look twice at him, but I’ve learned a lot in these short few months, okay? This is why I can post so many times on each and every blog post to show everyone my valuable insights into this topic where I am now a self-described veteran.

        Also, since my time is so valuable, this is why I ignore any sort of criticism about my ideas and treat my male opponent’s like girls I am texting and reframing instead of having a logical discourse.

        To those who want my help: I feel ready to give my esteemed advice – on both the macroscopic realm like female sexuality influencing the US political and social landscape, and the microscopic realm on how to get that 9 you are texting to dump her investment banking boyfriend to sleep on your couch instead and wake you up with blowjobs. Or how to treat a woman like shit and be a cool jerk after she miscarried your baby.

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      • this is why I ignore any sort of criticism about my ideas and treat my male opponent’s like girls I am texting and reframing instead of having a logical discourse.

        Well, ya’ll are a catty little bunch. Exhibit A ^

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      • Great job proving his point. You come over here as a sniveling beta crying that he is short, and now you spam the forum like you are Mystery himself.

        Also, was that your best attempt at negging him, Scray Scray? lol.

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      • Lol, Scray, you can’t help people who don’t want the help. Look at the flak Yareally gets. The angry haters will stay in mom’s dark basement with their hands over their ears. But I’d guess you’re helping plenty of guys (and some girls too) with your comments. There are only a handful of posters here who are actually successful with women and worth listening to, and I think most people can figure out who they are.

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      • on December 6, 2013 at 5:34 pm Carlos Danger

        What if your Mom doesn’t have a basement?

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      • Attic or shed. As long as they’re not out in real life with the rest of us.

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      • on December 7, 2013 at 1:39 am Scray is Male Nicole

        Comparing YaReally to Scray? Christ, Amy, we know you’re the resident shitposter here that gets frequently corrected by CH and others (remember when CH asked you not to stray off outside the lines of coherency?) – but, jeez, you are such an idiot.

        YaReally is a veteran that actually knows what the fuck he is talking about, and isn’t a newbie poster that is a self-admitted crybaby sniveling beta that whined about how he can’t get girls because he is short, like Scray Scray.

        YaReally also doesn’t smoke meth and spam his inane thoughts in about 100 (not exaggerating) postings over the last few 5 or so blog-posts in the same attention-whoring desperate way Scray does. Talk about a Napoleon Complex.

        You only spread your legs for tattooed up thugs, badboys, and felons like you admitted, so it is no wonder you like the dumb half-nigga hybrid known as Scray. Dumb mudshark.

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    • What is really sad, is that if the United States had never let women vote – we’d have colonized half the Solar System by now and have all kinds of cool crazy advances in science and medicine.

      But no, we got to waste trillions of fucking dollars trying to make poor stupid people less poor and stupid, by encouraging them to be… poor and stupid.

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      • good

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      • At least we have a president who has “the audacity of Hope” though. That and 50 cents will get you a bag of chips (actually 50 cents isn’t enough for chips any more due to inflation.)

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      • Irony of irony:The femcunts pushed the idea of the womens vote as a check on…da BLACK vote! With both black and white people doubling their voting numbers,the larger white vote would far outpace the negro. Sure worked out good! BTW did ya bhear about them white/joo femcuntsblasting Michelle for not being a better feminist. “The Help”coming true!

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    • You know what though? Fuck it.

      Let the strong adapt and become alpha. Let the weak stay beta and perish.

      Why should I take on the burden of taming hypergamy for the teeming masses of beta drones? To restore society? Don’t make me fucking laugh. In America alone, the demographics are so fucked that the only way to fix it is to blow it all to hell.

      It isn’t that hard to just not be beta.

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    • I agree. Absolutely brilliant blog, brilliant writing, analysis and reader interaction.

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  3. BTW, Scray, this is what I have been telling you. CH agrees with me, not you, and he simply has taken the time to explain things eloquently. For the good of society, female hypergamy must be constrained by *law* that forces a one woman-one man situation, so families can raise children properly and a higher % of men, to be blunt, have some semblance of a sex life, so they can be motivated to do the *work* that makes the world go around so that there is, to be literal, not MASS STARVATION AND MURDER.

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    • on December 5, 2013 at 8:56 am RappaccinisDaughter

      What laws do you propose?

      If it’s changing the divorce laws so that child custody does not automatically go to the woman…to make it much more difficult for a woman to obtain alimony post-divorce, especially if she is able-bodied and can work…to make it so that welfare and SNAP are much more difficult to get and only available for certain time constraints (as well as being closely monitored for fraud)…

      …consider me a co-signer! Because all of those things are perfectly Constitutional and LONG overdue.

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      • Virginia AG and 2013 Gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli (lost to Democrat Terry McAwful) proposed making it harder for women to end a marriage “just cuz” and to protect the rights of men. He lost because there are too many white men out there with vagina’s where their brains should be.

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      • Cooch also lost because he tried to recriminalize porn, oral sex, and butthexing. White men like blowjobs.

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      • Really, please send me a link to his statement on those issues. I must have missed that. (White man BJ fan)

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      • Divorce is not “no fault” and automatic. If the couple has children and the man opposes a divorce, in the absence of violence, the woman cannot get a divorce. Simple. Your way is good but not good enough because men are by nature “good” and will voluntarily pay what is necessary to take care of the children. For example, I pay $5,000 a month voluntarily (after tax dollars) on $9,000 take-home pay, because this is necessary to ensure my kids go to a good school and take ballet lessons and live in a nice home in a nice area.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 10:42 am RappaccinisDaughter

        I can’t support that, Grim. First of all, it cuts into the ideal of personal autonomy that’s so central to our Constitution. Secondly, setting it up so that divorce can’t happen in the absence of violence is going to result in even more false accusations of violence than happen now…and it’s pretty common now, especially in custody disputes. Thirdly, there are valid reasons for divorce that go well beyond violence.

        Case in point: My ex-husband didn’t believe me when I told him, prior to the marriage, that I did not want children. He pretended to be on board, and then the minute we were married, started pressuring me to have kids.

        Now, this is not one of those things that can be compromised upon…there either is a child, or there is not a child. There’s no in-between. So I divorced him. At the time, he opposed the divorce—he didn’t want me to leave, he just wanted me to roll over and have a kid. But it was still the best thing for him; he is now free to find a woman who wants the same things out of life that he does.

        (And before you ask: No, I didn’t take a thin dime from him. I even returned the engagement ring, although I’d have been legally within my rights to keep it, because it was a family heirloom.)

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      • Divorce is ok because I got divorced! Solipsism

        The reason to get married is to have children and raise them into productive members of society. If you didn’t want children, you shouldn’t have gotten married.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 12:13 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Divorce is OK in some circumstances, and I used an example of one. Would you prefer that I’d trapped him in a situation in which he could not have children? Do you think he deserves that fate for lying to me about what his goals were? As pissed off as I was about it, I didn’t.

        I can think of other examples that have nothing to do with me.

        What about when one spouse discovers the other is cheating? What if she’s the cheater? What if she’s given birth to another man’s kid and is expecting the husband to raise it as his own?

        What if one spouse develops a serious drug or alcohol problem, and refuses to get treatment?

        What if one spouse starts financially ruining the other, spending money like it’s water, secretly getting credit cards and maxing them out, and refusing to work? (Happened to a male friend of mine…)

        What if there’s no physical abuse, but serious emotional abuse? What if she runs him down, henpecks him, mocks him in front of all their friends?

        Many of those things would not have qualified for a divorce before the “no fault” laws came into effect, but do constitute a real reason to end a marriage.

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      • So… man lies to dupe woman into marriage only to later reveal true self. But woman should suck it up and deal anyway.

        Reverse the genders and this is what MRA’s have been fighting against for years, and rightfully so. Yet this is okay?

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      • “To have and to hold from this day forward, for better for worse, for richer for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death us do part.

        Did you say this or some variation of this with the bold part?

        The only reason I see for divorce is infidelity. That’s it. All that other shit is covered in your vows.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 1:14 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Yes, regrettably, I said those words. I was eating them soon enough.

        Question for you, everybodyhatesscott: Are you married?

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      • Question for you, everybodyhatesscott: Are you married?

        No. I’m also not divorced

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 2:14 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        OK, thought experiment. Let’s say you do get married. The first couple of years go great, but then you discover that your wife is developing a drinking problem. She drinks during the day, when you’re not home, and sometimes you come home to find her passed out on the couch while the baby cries, unchanged and unfed, in its crib. One day you come home to find her out cold, dinner burning on the stove, on the verge of setting the house on fire. You try to get her into treatment, but she refuses.

        What do you do?

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      • Because that’s so similar to “Idon’twannahavekids”.

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      • Almost burning down the house and killing an infant is just a tad bit different from you denying your husband access to his legally purchased property, your womb.
        If scott keeps raping you in this exchange, he’s going to have to marry you per Levitical law.

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      • <blockquote?Almost burning down the house and killing an infant is just a tad bit different from you denying your husband access to his legally purchased property, your womb.
        If scott keeps raping you in this exchange, he’s going to have to marry you per Levitical law.
        Heh

        OK, thought experiment. Let’s say you do get married. The first couple of years go great, but then you discover that your wife is developing a drinking problem. She drinks during the day, when you’re not home, and sometimes you come home to find her passed out on the couch while the baby cries, unchanged and unfed, in its crib. One day you come home to find her out cold, dinner burning on the stove, on the verge of setting the house on fire. You try to get her into treatment, but she refuses.

        What do you do?

        I’ve already figured you’re not too smart (Vox would call you a mid wit) but you’re honestly so fucking stupid to not understand “Till death us do part?”

        It’s five one syllable words.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 9:36 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Well, either way, I don’t mind the fact that I got divorced for that reason that I don’t want children. I’ve come to grips with the idea that I am not born with the same female motherly instincts as would a normal healthy woman. I’ve been through a lot of abuse from men treating me in the most abusive of ways, from hitting me, pumping and dumping me, and even raping me, so why the hell would I want to have a child to anchor me down to such men?

        As my regular therapist (who has a lot to work with) tells me – though I initiated the divorce (for better or worse), I feel, in my unconscious mind, very lucky to have gotten married. As this site taught me, by virtue of my looks (I have a man-jaw and A-cups), my permanent ride on the cock-carousel (unfortunately I have slept around a lot before I knew it wasn’t a good idea mainly because of depression), and my manly-like demeanor (I both learned to smoke and drink heavily at a young age, deal with it), it’s hard to find a quality guy. My ex-husband wasn’t a big quality catch or super alpha by any means, but at least I wouldn’t be approaching lonely spinsterhood as I am now.

        In retrospect, perhaps I should’ve stayed married, and just secretly used the Pill and blamed my husband for infertility.

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      • I don’t think divorce should be easy for anyone. Marriage is a beautiful thing.

        I especially don’t want divorce to be easy for guys though, because then all the alphas that would pump and dump me (because I am a tatt’d up mudshark that has spread her legs for badboys, Nigerians, and even convicted felons her entire life since age 14, and now I am almost 40 years old so I am no spring chicken anymore and spinsterhood is on the rapid horizon) would quickly find fault in me and desert me. I cannot build a life and holy matrimony with such instability.

        Why don’t you guys want to protect the woman and make divorce hard for guys? Isn’t that loving her?

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      • Poor Amy – GeishaKate is not responsive to my courtship of her – so, will you marry me? I will be happy to take care of you and comfort your woes.

        We will be famous among the manosphere and for our meeting on it. We will be the next Kate and Mark Minter. Isn’t that what girls like you dream about?

        We will let either Jesus or my prized heirloom ruby-encrusted thesaurus be the best man. I haven’t decided yet.

        Matt

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      • Let me put it another way. As RD said, you either have kids or you don’t – not something that can be compromised on. She made it crystal clear to him she did NOT want kids (and spare me the crap about how that makes her bad, etc, not the point here…) He entered into the marriage with full knowledge of her refusal. Then, he suddenly isn’t okay with it and starts pressuring her to change her mind. We weren’t in her situation, so we have no idea what was going on during that time, but it seems to me 4 things can happen: a) she changes her mind and has kids, b) he changes his mind and they don’t, c) they stay in this state of continual conflict, which seems unhealthy, or d) they get divorced so he can find a woman who WILL have kids for him. I see her getting dumped on for selecting (d) when she was completely honest and upfront about her requirements. What do you suggest instead?

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      • Exactly.The institute of marriage is created so people can grow children.
        If you don’t want to have children-you should not get married.

        However,you have married some beta man only because it increases your status in the female hierarchy,you have been brought up with Dysney bullshit or simply because you are dillusional

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      • +1

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      • I think the real question here is; did you and your ex discuss the issue of children in depth before you got married? Did you know his original position was that he wanted kids? Did you talk him out of this, or notice him changing his mind for superficial reasons or in casual ways? Did you not, at some point in this process, realize that this is one of those fundamental issues that neither one of you could actually bend on and his capitulation was most likely false? (because you are never actually going to be able to change a man)

        He didn’t trick you into marriage if any of those so much as give you pause; you both screwed up, I’m guessing.

        I think it’s fair grounds for divorce, and you’re both better off for it (and no kids were harmed, except maybe the ones you’ll never have – and why are so many women against child-rearing these days? Rhetorical). But.

        You’re arguing a conservative issue (the preservation of marriage) from a liberal viewpoint with liberal morality (self-autonomy as the highest good). In any system, some people will fuck up, and some people will get hurt. The best we can do is find the system (in this case, traditional marriage with marginal access to divorce) that hurts the fewest people and ensures the majority are behaving in a socially-sustainable way.

        The point is not making sure idiots don’t suffer the consequences of their bad decisions, as you are arguing, but to remove the moral hazard that lets them think bad decisions are okay to make.

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      • on December 9, 2013 at 8:15 am RappaccinisDaughter

        @ Cynthia:

        I was extremely clear on the issue. We discussed it in some depth multiple times before we got married. Over and over again, he assured me that this was what he’d always wanted, too. He even told me he’d be willing to get a vasectomy once he turned 25 (we married right out of college).

        Then we got married, and he instantly started making noises about having kids. At first, I blew him off…I seriously thought he was just joking. Then he told me he was serious. Apparently, he thought I’d “grow up and change (my) mind” as soon as we got married. After all, that’s what his entire family and all of his friends had assured him.

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      • @RappaccinisDaughter-The Constitution is not meant for you its meant for me. No we are not all equal and/or the same. When you were married, your husband was above you. You are not equal. I dont care about your hunting or anything. You are not tough at all. Youre never going to be as strong or tough as a man, never. The man has the last word. Christ is the HEAD of the Church and the Church MUST obey and the husband the HEAD of his wife. And no because you are a girl supposedly you dont have the right to vote. You are not at the same level as everyone. You have a strike already because you are female. you use your emotions. i fyou don’t know what the hegalien dialectic is, freemasonry, adam weihaupt, true meaning of left/right, fascism, communism, monetization, financialization, satanism, etc you have no right to speak. Men have a much easier time with these things. You are born to obey. The faster you realize that the better off you will be. You will constantly be in a struggle you can not win in the end. When SHTF believe me you will crying for a man. I dont care how much weapons you have. Get it thru your head.

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      • What is wrong with AMERICA?

        He didn’t believe RappaccinisDaughter when she told him that she did not want to have kids since in her own words ” My ex-husband wasn’t a big quality catch or super alpha by any means, but at least I wouldn’t be approaching lonely spinsterhood as I am now.”

        What she meant to say is this:

        I DID NOT WANT TO HAVE KIDS WITH HIM, BUT I REGRET DIVORCING HIM SINCE I REALIZE NOW HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WANTED TO COMMIT TO ME. I’M DEPRESSED NOW BECAUSE I COULD NOT GET THE ALPHA MALE TO COMMIT TO ME BECAUSE I WAS NOT ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH TO GET ONE. BUMMER. LIFE SUCKS.

        The whole manosphere shed and prayed for RappaccinisDaughter so she could get a ALPHA men to commit to her. Meanwhile she read 50 Shades of Gray and anxiously anticipated the Movie.

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      • on December 9, 2013 at 8:17 am RappaccinisDaughter

        That wasn’t me, Pavlov. That was the troll pretending to be me.

        And I hated “50 Shades of Gray.” Damn near unreadable.

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      • RD. I had no idea you were divorced. I commend your ethics and decisions here. It was the right thing to do for him. Time and time again there are examples of women who take advantage of men, and you did not do it even when given the opportunity. You did what men believe around here to be the impossible: treat others fairly. I’m glad you shared this. Even though its often hardest and, in some cases, detrimental to current happiness to be brutally honest, in the long run, its what brings the greatest rewards. Contrary to what people would believe, divorce is not some easy way out. Its like tearing yourself in two. And, when its the woman who has the insight to know its the best path, it can be doubly difficult because you have to take the blame and responsibility for it from a dependent partner. It takes a lot of strength and courage to do what is best for everyone instead of thinking only of yourself.

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      • Child custody should be default presumption of 50/50 physical and legal – child support calculated accordingly. No alimony or at most rehabilitative alimony strictly limited in duration and amount – ends with any new partner cohabitation.

        The plague of false accusation and punitive restraining orders must stop. These are mechanisms to protect people in dire situations but they have been abused to the point that the whole system should be scrapped and replaced with something that requires proof and levels real punishment for fraudulent claims.

        Discovery of paternity fraud absolves the divorcing husband from any legal or financial responsibility the child or children in question.

        This is probably the best that can be hoped for. There is nothing in any of the above that is unreasonable or unfair. This will not stop divorces from happening – nothing will stop that, people make mistakes, people change, bad things happen, but it may stem the tide of frivorce.

        Power, responsibility, and consequences must be re-balanced.

        If not…..even the most nice guy beta is going to eventually get the message and head for the poolside or the basement.

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      • “The plague of false accusation and punitive restraining orders must stop. These are mechanisms to protect people in dire situations but they have been abused to the point that the whole system should be scrapped and replaced with something that requires proof and levels real punishment for fraudulent claims.

        Discovery of paternity fraud absolves the divorcing husband from any legal or financial responsibility the child or children in question.”

        The good news is that all of the above are found in succinct form in the Old Testament family and marriage laws.

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      • Can we punish the gals for cheatin’? While giving dudes a pass?(You know higgomaus hoggamaus etc)

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    • We agree that the institution of marriage should be strengthened and balanced. As for the other stuff….let’s just assume CH agrees with you — and?

      Hardly a trump card. Please indicate your point of disagreement with me. We probably agree without you even realizing. I just tend to view women as normal — mostly good — people with a few primal weaknesses. Men are the same, but they have different weaknesses. The ultimate goal here should be reconciliation, not picking up your toys and going home.

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      • u lernd 2 type reel good boy

        u a scray doppleganger?

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 2:16 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Scray is very smart. He just likes to talk like a lolcat sometimes.

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      • RD calling someone else smart? Coming from a solipsistic girl that keeps posting garbage (see above) and keeps getting corrected about it, or that got “raped” (after she went to her boyfriend’s house) and refused to press charges on it, or got married and then got a divorce? I’m afraid that’s not much of a compliment.

        As for Scray, he is a self-described sniveling beta mudshark that has been here for a whopping 6 months after coming here crying about how short and bad with women he is, so of course he talks like a dumb beta ‘lolcat’. Pretty sure most of us wouldn’t care if either one of you two left.

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      • The real Patriarch uses “coon cooter” in place of mudshark.

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    • My God, how could we have not seen this at the public policy level; I’ve instructed Congress to implement your plan immediately.

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    • Not really, all that’s needed is for welfare to be eliminated instead of subsidizing bastardhood.

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  4. The “village style” polyamory described in the article could work in small or very heterogeneous societies, but not in a large, multiethnic society like the US.

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  5. Very well written, Heartiste.

    That feminist-lauded “support network” with Hillary-esque “it takes a village” overtones will surely become less supportive as increasing numbers of men disillusioned with the growing ranks of cad-chasing sluts drop out, taking their sweat and their money with them, ultimately depriving the state of its ability to transfer resources from men to women. Civilization banks on getting men to invest in its continuance, and the tool it uses is monogamy and guarantees of one woman-one man. If women renege on their end of the deal… well, don’t be surprised if men renege on theirs.

    Exactly, and it will hit the most important professions the worst. Most men are motivated to invest in a time-consuming career for the sake of their wife and offspring. When they can’t have that, why spend six days a week, ten hours a day at work? Why spend all that time building a business when all you need for your own sake is enough to get by and to go out in the weekends? You might say there are men who will invest in hard work for the sake of it, and others will do it in order to get a woman when the business is flowering. But most men don’t work that way. They get a woman and children and are motivated by love for them and concern for their future.

    When men can’t have a loving woman by their side there will also be a lot more alcoholism, as well as drug use and every other vice. Men will turn to a wasteful life coated in cynicism as justification for their actions, and they won’t be far off. More men will act like bastards, and women will be jaded and more aggressive as protection, many of them falling for the feminist claims now that they see more brutish men.

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    • I call it “lazy lion” syndrome.

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    • One other result is a decline in infrastructure. Back when I was a kid, it was common for the married men in the neighborhood to get together and build an extra wing to somebody’s house, put in a new driveway, or take some initiative to get that potted road leveled.

      But with more men being driven out of their homes by divorce, or not getting married in the first place, there’s little incentive to do any of this. And we have the situation in the inner cities, with men not even in the picture thanks to the welfare/war on drugs state. You’d think with all the male “oppressors” out of the picture, and womyn de facto dominating the family, America’s inner cities would be paradises of peace and progress. Of course, that is not the case.

      Then again, the suburbs are seeing the same trends. You wonder when the next bridge will collapse because the guy who would have fixed it has chucked it all owing to alimony payments or the prospect of raising some other guy’s kid.

      Of course, even with all the “liberation,” you rarely see female construction companies or heavy work crews. All that requires not merely male strength but male vision of making things better for the future. And that requires a real commitment to the vision, not the next child support check.

      Something to think about in the coming collapse.

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      • “you rarely see female construction companies or heavy work crews.” Despite preferential contract quotas and business loans via affirmative action legislation.

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    • I find a wasteful like rooted in cynicism quite cool already!

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    • “More men will act like bastards, and women will be jaded and more aggressive as protection, many of them falling for the feminist claims now that they see more brutish men.”

      In other words, a self-fulfilling prophecy…

      “Why spend all that time building a business when all you need for your own sake is enough to get by and to go out in the weekends?”

      My boss looked on in despair when I told him I wanted to work part-time (I’m probably the best worker he’s got). Being mortgage free also makes it easier to work less – it was always my first priority.

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  6. “If you can get past his vagina flapping, there are some nuggets of inference to be made.” Holy shit that’s funny!

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  7. The US will be the world’s worst cum dumpster.

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  8. on December 5, 2013 at 9:17 am Amanjaw Marcuntte

    I once commented at a mangina’s blog about how I would walk away from fatherhood if a paternity test proved the spawn wasn’t mine. The fem-fugs shrieked bloody murder.

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  9. Some of your best writing yet. Cheers.

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  10. OMG I DON’T EVEN WOW JUST WOW SLUT SHAMING LET OUR WOMEN BANG TRUE SEXUAL EQUALITY WHEN WOMEN CAN SCREW AROUND LIKE MEN.

    Thus, inevitably, one becomes what one hates.

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  11. I am still puzzled why this % is so high in Eastern Europe.If its all about economic independence why is that the percentage of children born out of a wedlock is higher than in many western nations?
    Bulgaria seems to be the top of the top.

    I also have some information (its in russian unfortunately) that this percentage is >50% in Ukraine.

    http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/tgm/table.do?tab=table&plugin=0&language=en&pcode=tps00018

    In 2011, 39.5% of all births in the 27 EU countries were extramarital. In that year, births outside marriage represented a majority in Iceland (65.0%), Estonia (59.7%), Slovenia (56.8%), Bulgaria (56.1%), France (55.8%), Norway (55.0%), Sweden (54.3%), and Belgium (50%). The proportion of extramarital births is also approaching half in Denmark (49%), the United Kingdom (47.3%) and the Netherlands (45.3%).[18] Other European countries with a high rate of extramarital births for the year 2011 are Latvia (44.6%), Hungary (42.3%), Czech Republic (41.8%), Finland (40.9%), Austria (40.4%), Luxembourg (34.1%), Slovakia (34.0%), Germany (33.5%).[19] The lowest proportion of births outside marriage was found in Greece (7.4%) and Cyprus (16.9%).[20]

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    • really? your confused?

      in a world or culture where men are men, the only thing a woman can offer to “maybe” get the provisioning she needs is give up the poosy to the strongest man she can find and maybe get knocked up, hoping he will stay.

      the pendulum can swing so hard in one direction that it comes around the other side.

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      • Yeah,its common sense.

        But its not obvious that there is a direct correlation between economic independence and single motherhood.

        Bulgaria is the poorest country of the EU/EEA with very little benefits paid to mothers.Norway,on the other hand,is the richest,with an absolute gender equality and very generous handouts to single mothers and unemployed.
        Yet they stand shoulder to shoulder in the statistics table..

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      • this makes me think of the super alpha post and Ya’s calibration stuff.

        I think that the only thing common to either Norway and Bulgaria is the number being reported. it ends there.

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      • and its not a criticism. humans look for patterns as a defense and as a function of pain memory.

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      • I have hard time understanding you,being honest

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      • just because the reported number of out of wedlock births is high in both places, that may be the only correlation

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      • “absolute gender equality”? Someone has been reading online talking points, methinks. True, Norway doesn’t have laws that forbid women from entering this or that profession. So I guess they have “absolute gender equality”. Same goes for every other European nation in that case.

        The propaganda about “gender equality” from Nordic countries is just that. The socialists make sure to spread that image far and wide in order to show their ideology marching on. In reality, only fifteen percent of Swedes for example believe in feminism. But the media are dominated by leftist owners, as per the usual pattern where conservatives will sell to anyone, while the leftists sell only to each other and promote each other until they dominate a field. The media destroy the career of anyone who openly opposes feminism. And the media make sure that their version of what the country is, is the version that is heard. Leftists in society are emboldened, and you will see them propagate the same propaganda online. Also, a lot of non-Nordic Whites act toward Nordic Whites the way many Blacks act toward all Whites: drooling over the women and hating those who have achieved success, therefore talking loudly online about how “weak” and “feminized” etc they are. Nothing new under the sun.

        But consider that none of these countries have anything like U.S. anti-male divorce laws, which are a huge problem. The divorce laws are instead what I described above, mutual assets divided in proportion to how much income each spouse brought into the marriage, and no alimony. It is also the U.S. that has Affirmative Discrimination that demands women and non-Whites are given high positions. With this in mind it is amusing to watch Americans make dumb generalizations about peoples they know nothing about.

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      • With one comment Tilikum,
        You have summed up the science of anthropology.

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      • in a world or culture where men are men, the only thing a woman can offer to “maybe” get the provisioning she needs is give up the poosy to the strongest man she can find and maybe get knocked up, hoping he will stay.the pendulum can swing so hard in one direction that it comes around the other side.

        In one comment Tilikum you have summed up the entire science of anthropology.
        Write this down children, it will be on the test.

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    • The Eastern Bloc countries had a long history of state-sponsored single motherhood. The Nordic countries have high single-mother rates, but usually the father is still around – they just don’t marry. Sweden and Iceland still have pretty conservative family structure but without a wedding.

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      • In eastern european countries a father is also always around,and they just dont marry.I cant speak for Bulgaria,its very different from northern eastern europe culture; but I can speak for countries like Ukraine or Russia.This is pretty much a norm over there.Also single motherhood is pretty much a norm,women tend to kick men out of a house when a child turns 5-7 years old,with mathematical precision.

        On a surface it makes 0 sense since it’s tough to be a single mother over there and having a man around is very useful.Yet they keep doing it.

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      • Also single motherhood is pretty much a norm,women tend to kick men out of a house when a child turns 5-7 years old,with mathematical precision.

        Sounds like the “seven-year itch” happens over there too.

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      • Why would nt they?Give me one reason.A woman is a woman.

        There is this russian forum for men,red pill.I think I have already posted it here once.Quite entertaining, one can read amazing dramas there..

        But an average story is always the same “I met this girl,she grew up in a family without a father..blablabla….she told me her father was a bastard and alcoholic (but later I learned that he was a great man,he just had to leave that hell)…blabla.. we were going out blabla…I have done a lot for her bla bla bla…she was nice and lovely and cooked..blabla…I asked her to marry me in a fancy place…blabla…we had a child bla bla bla and I bought a flat…she gradually turned nasty,stopped cooking and cleaning,sex dissapeared..she kept telling me I was selfish and its all my fault…5-7 years passed yada-yada she started coming late home from work and started going to a gym,salsa classes ,dyed her hair and got new girl friends…yada-yada..was hiding with her mobile in a bathroom and toilet…i bought her tons of present and went on expensive holidays with her,because she told me I was no affectionate with her…but she even got worth…bla bla bla..I found she s been cheating on me for 2 years.What do I do?”

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    • men if given the chance like to fool around with no consequences too..the rock star life. Because of kill offs of men in theses countries womens culture is all about pleasing the man..high heels and sex, etc. When given the option of sex with multiple women i think most men say …YES PLEASE! Then he can choose which female he really wants to take care of (if any). Which is why russian men can behave so badly and get poon still.

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      • Obviously,you are naive and your knowledge of the culture over there is based on posts from ROK.

        Trust me I am a Ukrainian and it’s the other way around.The culture over there is about pleasing a woman.It’s extremely gynocentric and matriarchal.

        The high hills is just to hook another beta up.

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    • > “The lowest proportion of births outside marriage was found in Greece (7.4%) and Cyprus (16.9%).[20]”

      Whatever happened to that EOF Exploring Our Femininity chick?

      She was a Greekette living on Cyprus.

      I hope she has bun in her oven now – she seemed like a really nice girl.

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  12. Just more proof that the solution is that women must be controlled for civilization to work.

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    • This. Sorry, RD, but it’s true. Women don’t like men and the law and society must force them to be with them. This is also why all sex involves rape fantasies on both sides, because this is how it is in the entire animal kingdom. Females resist and men must take. Today’s fucked up laws have given women freedom to be sluts with alphas, hate betas, and not need marriage to eat and be sheltered and they are not shamed for being spinsters. I am right and anyone who disagrees is simply ignorant.

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      • You almost had me until you wrote, “I am right and anyone who disagrees is simply ignorant.”

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 11:02 am RappaccinisDaughter

        Yeah, he had me fished in too. I thought he was talking about stuff like welfare reform at first. Heh.

        Good one, Grim!

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 10:14 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        In fact, he fished me in so well and so deeply, that I thought he was going to hit me, or invite me over to his house and rape me! (knowing that I, in my desperation, would enjoy it too much to press charges)

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    • People must be controlled for civilization to work. It’s not like men are just noble, great creatures all their own. C’mon dudes.

      [CH: unregulated female sexuality is more dangerous than unregulated male sexuality to social stability.]

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      • [CH: unregulated female sexuality is more dangerous than unregulated male sexuality to social stability.]

        How can this be possibly be true? I’m envisioning the complete removal of all legal and social barriers to sexual assault. But maybe you had something else in mind.

        [CH: i’m not talking about sex crimes. think of the stakes: a cad can leave a trail of broken hearts, but a whore will leave a trail of broken homes. there’s your difference.]

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      • think of the stakes: a cad can leave a trail of broken hearts, but a whore will leave a trail of broken homes.

        I have seen this. I good-looking woman with no moral compass who can’t keep her pants zipped is one of the most destructive forces in the universe.

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      • Yeah, but a guy can just as easily leave broken homes in his wake. See the black community. Actually, they aren’t even a cohesive home to begin with, so I guess it is more accurately stated that they create broken homes by knocking up and moving on.

        [CH: a cheating man who doesn’t leave his family causes emotional harm. a cheating woman who doesn’t leave her family causes emotional harm plus physical harm should her dalliances result in a pregnancy that is then foisted on her whole family who must bear the burden of raising the bastard.]

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      • I don’t think the black inner city experience is remotely the same. “Breaking homes’ implies there was a stable marriage which was blown up by one of the parties cheating and leaving (or the spouse leaves). In the ghetto case, there isn’t a marriage and can’t be, since otherwise the man and woman would lose welfare benefits.

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      • If the cheating man gets the woman pregnant, the woman can foist the child onto the man — at the very least by forcing the man to pay money, which is emotional and financial harm. Not saying it’s a 50/50 split, but it could be as close as 60-40 on that front.

        [CH: yeah, but that’s not 18 years of up-front and personal servitude. a cheating woman simply presents a much greater risk to her family — and to social stability if the numbers of them are large enough — than does a cheating man, because the former has a belly that can fill with child. this disparity in risk is felt deep in everyone’s bones, because evolution has ensured we respond appropriately to varying threat levels of sexual impropriety.]

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      • In Massachusetts, it’s 23 years, not 18 (assuming the child goes to college…) Even worse: it used to be that a woman could file for child support from a man she never married and get CS retroactive to birth! No joke. So you could get pregnant from a ONS, and never tell the guy. 18 years later, you find out he’s a successful doctor (or whatever), and serve him with papers. I think they finally did fix that nonsense…

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      • The broken black community is largely a product of government policies meant to cater to female sexuality, eg welfare, and remove men from the family. QED.

        [CH: absent gov’t intrusion, black dysfunction would still be present. it’s innate. govt just exacerbates it.]

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      • CH, do you have any studies to back that? I’ve read a lot on the state of black society prior to the ‘great society’. Relatively low crime, illegitimacy about the same as married whites, etc… Work ethic, morals, etc… I’m as unhappy about where things are now as anyone else, but come on. “still present but exacerbated?’ To what degree? Your statement doesn’t really say anything substantive. Leaving race out of it, we see the same crap happening to various white demographics who have gotten sucked into the whole ‘let the govt help you!’ trap…

        [CH: i’ll try to find them. i’ve seen them. yeah, black crime and single mommyhood was def lower in the early 20th century, before the leftoids’ power metastasized, but it was still higher than the white norms of the time.]

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      • Guys look, I know I came here only 6 months ago as a sniveling beta that cried about how short he was and how women won’t look twice at him, but I’ve learned a lot in these short few months, okay? This is why I can post so many times on each and every blog post to show everyone my valuable insights into this topic where I am now a self-described veteran.

        Also, since my time is so valuable, this is why I ignore any sort of criticism about my ideas and treat my male opponent’s like girls I am texting and reframing instead of having a logical discourse.

        To those who want my help: I feel ready to give my esteemed advice – on both the macroscopic realm like female sexuality influencing the US political and social landscape, and the microscopic realm on how to get that 9 you are texting to dump her investment banking boyfriend to sleep on your couch instead and wake you up with blowjobs. Or how to treat a woman like shit and be a cool jerk after she miscarried your baby.

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      • So cool, no one will be able to tell us apart!

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      • Don’t worry Scray Scray – they’ll know when it’s really you when they smell that Napoleon Complex on you from afar, trying desperately to compensate for the fact that you came over here as a self-admitted sniveling beta.

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      • Random Guy
        “CH, do you have any studies to back that? I’ve read a lot on the state of black society prior to the ‘great society’. Relatively low crime, illegitimacy about the same as married whites, etc… Work ethic, morals, etc…”

        Random asked for any studies that support the idea that even prior to the Great Society scam, black dysfunction was manifest. Exhibit A would be nearly any work of history or literature about Africa written prior to 1950. One hilarious and instructive document can be found by Charles Dickens, The Noble Savage. Check him:

        “There is at present a party of Zulu Kaffirs exhibiting at the St. George’s Gallery, Hyde Park Corner, London. These noble savages are represented in a most agreeable manner; they are seen in an elegant theatre, fitted with appropriate scenery of great beauty, and they are described in a very sensible and unpretending lecture, delivered with a modesty which is quite a pattern to all similar exponents. Though extremely ugly, they are much better shaped than such of their predecessors as I have referred to; and they are rather picturesque to the eye, though far from odoriferous to the nose. What a visitor left to his own interpretings and imaginings might suppose these noblemen to be about, when they give vent to that pantomimic expression which is quite settled to be the natural gift of the noble savage, I cannot possibly conceive; for it is so much too luminous for my personal civilisation that it conveys no idea to my mind beyond a general stamping, ramping, and raving, remarkable (as everything in savage life is) for its dire uniformity. But let us – with the interpreter’s assistance, of which I for one stand so much in need – see what the noble savage does in Zulu Kaffirland.

        The noble savage sets a king to reign over him, to whom he submits his life and limbs without a murmur or question, and whose whole life is passed chin deep in a lake of blood; but who, after killing incessantly, is in his turn killed by his relations and friends, the moment a grey hair appears on his head. All the noble savage’s wars with his fellow-savages (and he takes no pleasure in anything else) are wars of extermination – which is the best thing I know of him, and the most comfortable to my mind when I look at him. He has no moral feelings of any kind, sort, or description; and his ‘mission’ may be summed up as simply diabolical.”

        Etc, etc. readbookonline.net/readOnLine/2529/

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      • I might actually agree with this in one principle sense, that if men had unregulated access, it would be as destructive. However rape, interpreted as a moral crisis, is a rather large seizer of reproductive resources of an individual. If say a typical women could have a reasonable maximum of 10 then, 10% of her reproductive resources have been stolen if she conceived. If she has her cad on the public dime, then this act is socialized on the other side of the ledger.

        The danger is that it is far more insidious. Would we recognize a 10% tax slapped on the productive society from orgiastic parasites? I would say matter as a matter of fact no. That would not be interpreted as the rape of the productive class of men.

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      • How can this be possibly be true? I’m envisioning the complete removal of all legal and social barriers to sexual assault. But maybe you had something else in mind.

        Unregulated female sexually means that drug dealing, women beating felons are more valuable than good-natured, child-rearing, tax-paying, loyal husbands.

        pieces of shit > good men

        Draw your own fucking conclusions on how this bad for society.

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      • I know why it’s bad for society. If you read my actual question, I was asking why it’s worse than unchecked male sexuality.

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      • Amy showing everyone how ignorant and how much of a shitposting retard she is? Wow, never seen that one before….

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      • ‘Tiss the season of joy, for I have answered. Unchecked male sexuality is conspicuous. Unchecked female sexuality is insidious.

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      • Unregulated male aggression is more dangerous than unregulated female aggression to social stability, too. The point being, that in each gender, certain impulses must be controlled for civilization to function.

        I guess the next step is to connect male aggression to female sexuality run amok, but I’m unsure if it all stems from there. There are other basic sources of the aggression….food, shelter, “honor,” etc.

        If we’re all going to go with this narrative of men being more noble or whatever, then the people to save the civilization are going to be men. That means focusing on proper guidance and reconciliation, rather than opportunism or bitterness. Y’know….choosing right over wrong and all of that shit.

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      • Honor creates aggression? LOL

        It is the lack of honor in the gangbangers you undoubtedly worship that makes them not restrain their behavior. Apparently you don’t know what honor is.

        And yes, men are “more noble or whatever”. Women don’t care about honor and pride, they think in economic terms for themselves and their offspring and hate the fact that a husband could consider sacrificing their social status and prosperity for the sake of honor, which they consider useless.

        “I guess the next step is to connect male aggression to female sexuality run amok” – little socialist refuses to see the connection between socialist policies, destroying traditional mores, and the consequences. All you can do when facing an arrow pointing in that direction is ridicule, exaggerate and distort. Never will your brain think an independent thought and figure something out. But then, if you could think unrestricted by propaganda shackles you wouldn’t be a leftist.

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      • Disputes over honor absolutely create aggression. This is the key tool in the AMOG’s arsenal. You needle a guy about something he cares about, and he feels disrespected. When he feels disrespected, he will get aggressive/butthurt. Honor was in quotes. To him it’s about honor, to the rest of the world it’s whatever. That’s how men are.

        And, because my musing on the “connection” was apparently unclear — I was illustrating an example of impulses that men have that civilization must control. Men and women have different primal forces that must be checked. We are two sides to the same species. So the longer you all keep up with the “women don’t care about morals and pride and honor…” talk, the longer the west will go without any actual men. This is yet another symptom of America’s pussification. Realizing that women are friends, rather than enemies, and recognizing what they need to feel love for a man, is crucial.

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      • You described pride not honor. Insert pride instead of honor in your example and it makes more sense.

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      • Honor and pride are related. Honor is placing value into your good name ad public esteem, Pride is how willing you are to defend your good name and public esteem — tied to how much self-respect/esteem you have.

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm Col Nicholson

        Scray is correct here. The term of art is “honor based society.” Plug that into Google Scholar and you’ll see. The Old South is one example. These are the societies which create customs like dueling and other extreme methods of settling disputes between so-called “men of honor.”

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      • on December 5, 2013 at 6:37 pm Hugh G. Rection

        It’s funny how “noble” is seen as something good these days, given how most noblemen behaved.

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      • I don’t think men are inherently noble at all. And yes you are correct about impulse control for both sides.

        But it is a matter of degrees. Unchecked sexuality in a female causes the long slow slide toward madness we are seeing now. Unchecked aggression in males is very quick and explosive and resets in a much shorter timeline.

        Right now, we are nowhere -near- unchecked aggression, quite the opposite. Men have been turned into eunuchs and TPTB want to keep them that way.

        When the true hardship comes, and it will, that is when the script will flip and all the Take back the Night rallies, slutwalks, and genders studies classes in the world won’t save you from the reptile brain unleashed when men revolt.

        You thought you had it bad when you were micro-aggressed for the third time last week, and someone didn’t check their white privilege fast enough? When you were denied your federally funded birth control?

        What ever will you do, when your white knight orbiters have their skulls cavitated by the rage filled barbarians? If you thought you were getting lots of dick before, you ain’t seen nothing yet…

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      • “I don’t think men are inherently noble at all. And yes you are correct about impulse control for both sides.

        But it is a matter of degrees. Unchecked sexuality in a female causes the long slow slide toward madness we are seeing now. Unchecked aggression in males is very quick and explosive and resets in a much shorter timeline.”

        This is a good point. The effects of unchecked male aggression are immediately perceptible, and therefore can be quickly corrected if necessary. The damage from this slut-positive trend for women is hard for most people to see.

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      • Moreover, it is so hard for most people to see, that even I was blinded by this reality when I took the cock carousel of thugs and even convicted felons my entire life for a long after-hours spin. I admit that I didn’t see much long-term value in Jamal – 6’8 fresh off the boat from Nigeria – but I didn’t think sleeping around and having fun would hurt me as much as it did.

        Sigh, I wish I was taught the truth before I spread my legs for badboys so much so that it is hard for me to find a nice beta to pay my bills before the Lord of Biomechanics personally escorts me to spinsterhood, and not feel like he’s throwing a pencil down a bowling-alley lane during intimacy.

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      • @Amy-wow you are something else. It is not hard for people to see. it was common knowledge for thousands of years. CH is absolutely right about the woman screwing up and destroying the family. Its much worse if a woman cheats than a man. Guess what? Too bad. this is common TRUE knowledge but not nowadays. Like Bezemov said they are like useful idiots and will not understand until a boot kicks them in their fat bottoms. There is a southern european saying that says most of the time if the woman of the house is no good the whole family is no good but if the woman is good the whole family is good. This is what it means when they say a woman’s family is her honor and her glory. its not really the man. and no its not being a woman hater. its pointing out your true power and importance. thats why the woman has to be good and better than the husband, if not sorry gotta go with the odds, the whole family will b junk. this goes especially for people who lie son or daughter and know their mom is junk but wont admit it. they will destroy their own future familes and aide in destroying their parents. Of course, the husband’s love should be conditional. She is here to obey and everything will be alright. another southern european saying is the woman of the house is suppose to be the peacemaker. Jesus is the head of the Churcha dn WE must obey, the father is head of the family and must be obeyed. Its very easy and logical to understand using linear logical though backed with empirical observation and data. Its only hard to see for people who have been “educated” lol i mean indoctrinated.

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      • The general point here is that this attitude toward women is getting in the way of any meaningful progress. Make the laws more equitable — no more no-fault alimony, for starters, but also, men need to let go of this fantasy they have of unconditional love-in-exchange-for-money/favors/compliments-even-tho-I’m-a-pussy. Unconditional love between sexual partners is a fantasy. Let it go. That is what all of this whining is about. I just see people refusing to take ownership of their failures. If you lost a woman’s love, you did it. You lost it. If you twined yourself with a woman who never loved you, you failed to educate yourself about what women respond to in men. Own it.

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      • When men were each given a woman of their own to use for sex, he had incentive to pay into society.
        By keeping women from working each man was instantly a provider so long as he worked.
        These traits have been removed from most betas now by allowing women to work or to leech resources from the betas via government without providing sex which in the past was the universal currency rendered to me for playing by societies rules.

        A womans sexuality must be controlled for the basis of civilization to function, namely that women provide sex in return for beta toiling, with the alphas looking on from their thrones.
        When women are subjugated, men are elevated.

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      • Okay….well rather than put all the brunt on women to trap them into situations where they are “subjugated” to beta providers that they feel nothing for, what’s wrong with encouraging the majority of men to just “alpha up” a little?

        Change a few laws and change a few hearts, so we can reconcile everything that’s wrong.

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      • In a sense that’s what I’m talking about.
        In the past men, even beta providers, were more masculine. Society had been set up to maximize and encourage masculinity. My maternal great grandfather, upon reaching 17, was given 30 acres of his fathers land to start his life on. Within 2 years he had a house built, with the help of his friends and brothers, and had converted the remaining parts of the land into a small farm and had taken a wife, one of the neighbors daughters. She was 14. The year was 1920. They were very poor, but he was still the man of the house, raising 9 kids together.
        Compare that to the average 20 year old American male’s life and you’ll see how beta provider today contrasts to the beta provider of the past.

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      • Yeah, that sounds reasonable. If that’s true, we can add “celebrate masculinity” to the list of things-to-do.

        I’m kind of at a loss as to how a man could have success with women — women they actually like, who are quality women (they exist and game is necessary for them) — and still come out the other side failing to love women.

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      • It’s not merely unregulated though, it’s subsidized. That’s much worse as there are natural regulations over sexual behavior in a society where everyone has to provide for themselves and their own children.

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    • Guys look, I know I came here only 6 months ago as a sniveling beta that cried about how short he was and how women won’t look twice at him, but I’ve learned a lot in these short few months, okay? This is why I can post so many times on each and every blog post to show everyone my valuable insights into this topic where I am now a self-described veteran.

      Also, since my time is so valuable, this is why I ignore any sort of criticism about my ideas and treat my male opponent’s like girls I am texting and reframing instead of having a logical discourse.

      To those who want my help: I feel ready to give my esteemed advice – on both the macroscopic realm like female sexuality influencing the US political and social landscape, and the microscopic realm on how to get that 9 you are texting to dump her investment banking boyfriend to sleep on your couch instead and wake you up with blowjobs. Or how to treat a woman like shit and be a cool jerk after she miscarried your baby.

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    • “Just more proof that the solution is that women must be controlled for civilization to work.”

      Women don’t need to be controlled. It’s the privileging of women at the expense of men that’s doing all the damage – the enabling of women and mothers to extract resources from men via the State without reciprocation…

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    • It’s the extracting of resources from men to women without reciprocation via the State that’s really doing all the damage. The world would be a much better place if Big Brother just let things evolve naturally. Less pain for everyone…

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  13. Well………..yeah, you will think less of cheating on someone the less you depend on and need that person lol. What’s unfortunate here is any sort of inference that women have ever honestly loved beta males. It’s never happened. In the past they just knew they’d have nowhere to go if they fucked up the marriage — wow, what a utopia.

    To be honest, this day and age we live in is great for men. I’m starting to realize it. If, as a man, you can just ignore the shit test that is the modern female narrative….bountiful pussy, given to you on your terms, awaits.

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    • all due respect, you have a big crash coming. i kinda hope you do and I know that’s fucked up, but if you don’t crash then that just means you are as basic as you want to believe you are.

      you are definitely getting close though because clearly you are bright and your writing tells it.

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      • i already had a pretty big fucking crash, homie.

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      • …and no one here cares.

        Stop posting so much. You are turning into the male version of Nicole.

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      • Just remember what happened to Bel Riose, bro…

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      • I appreciate you reading all my comments and taking the time to offer me advice, loyal fan.

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      • He doesn’t need to read your thoughtless comments to see you spam up the place with nonsense, shortly after you came here as a self-admitted short crybaby beta.

        You have very few ‘loyal fans’, you delusional novice.

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      • I appreciate you reading all my comments and taking the time to offer me advice, loyal fan.

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      • translation: I will continue to flippantly ignore criticism of me and spam this place non-stop as a compensation mechanism for being a short crybaby beta that can’t get girls, as per my own admission. Waaah!

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      • Big crash from all the meth that I take in order to post 100 times my thoughtful remarks in each and every blogpost because McDonald’s recently gave me more time by giving me a more flexible schedule so I can bless you guys with my pearls of wisdom? get real lol.

        Guys look, I know I came here only 6 months ago as a sniveling beta that cried about how short he was and how women won’t look twice at him, but I’ve learned a lot in these short few months, okay? This is why I can post so many times on each and every blog post to show everyone my valuable insights into this topic where I am now a self-described veteran.

        Also, since my time is so valuable, this is why I ignore any sort of criticism about my ideas and treat my male opponent’s like girls I am texting and reframing instead of having a logical discourse.

        To those who want my help: I feel ready to give my esteemed advice – on both the macroscopic realm like female sexuality influencing the US political and social landscape, and the microscopic realm on how to get that 9 you are texting to dump her investment banking boyfriend to sleep on your couch instead and wake you up with blowjobs. Or how to treat a woman like shit and be a cool jerk after she miscarried your baby.

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      • how to get that 9 you are texting to dump her investment banking boyfriend to sleep on your couch instead and wake you up with blowjobs. Or how to treat a woman like shit and be a cool jerk after she miscarried your baby.

        Cliff’s and corrections tho: she’s a hot blonde — my 7, your 9 doppel-Scray — and otherwise…ha, yeah I was pretty cool.

        P.S. I am so fucking tight. Wish you were me doppel-scray

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      • “Yo guys watch me suck my own dick and try to look cool on the internet to desperately compensate for coming here and outing myself as a short crybaby beta!”

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      • Scray, you shouldn’t be on a game blog if you’re going to suck your own dick. Is that part of your Napoleon Complex or are you just otherwise insecure?

        LOLOLOL I AM SO COOL GUYS YOU WISH YOU WERE ME!

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      • Hey faggot ,(oops) I meant Patriarch. The guys that actually go out will follow Scray’s advice more so than your ivory-tower bullshit.

        Quit trolling the dude. I say it again and again. Look at Scray’s progress this past year (archived at yareallyarchive.com) and stfu already.

        He has approached more woman and put himself out there more times this past year then you probably have in 5.

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      • It’s not Patriarch, it’s just the copycat troll (probably Stilichio). And lol, let’s let him troll — who cares. hes already talking about how huge my dick is. good looking out, tho.

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      • on December 7, 2013 at 6:41 pm Carlos Danger

        He’s telling you to stop spamming the place non-stop when you clearly are a novice with little comment value. This is a legitimate gripe.

        Why do you ignore this, refuse to post less, and want to talk about your penis instead? Oh right, because you are an insecure and delusional short man.

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      • you can train, compete, and even WIN the Special Olympics but when it’s time to get back on the bus Corky, you gotta remember that you are still a retard.

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      • on December 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm Carlos Danger

        You are white-knighting for a self-admitted short beta person that whined about how he could not get girls, who (more importantly) refuses to stop littering and spamming this place with dozens and dozens of posts like a crack addict which is very annoying to people. I assume you can count how many times he’s posted, right?

        Jesus, how far this blog has fallen since the good ol’ 2009-2010 days. Now we have spammers, betas, and white-knights, like HuffPo.

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      • on December 7, 2013 at 6:48 pm The Most Interesting Man in the World

        lol white-knight for a MAN with that flaming icon calling someone else ‘faggot’. ahahah

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    • Hello, socialist. Heartiste is writing about you – though I know you didn’t read much farther than the title.

      Pussboys who cheerlead for a female-led promiscuous feminist future have a blind spot regarding any blowback. It’s a “there’s no victim” party all the time for leftoids, who are incapable of considering the consequences of their childish, narcissistic acting out. Like most manginas, they lack the intellectual integrity to tackle the reality of female hypergamy, and wrongly assume that a free love paradise that impugns marriage and female chasteness will mean more sex for all men. No, what it will mean is more sex for alpha males.

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      • Please state my position.

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      • > “To be honest, this day and age we live in is great for men. I’m starting to realize it. If, as a man, you can just ignore the shit test that is the modern female narrative….bountiful pussy, given to you on your terms, awaits.”

        I actually agree with you that the Beta herbling manboob losers need to grow some damned balls and man-the-hell-up and start satisfying their women.

        But in the long run, all of this “bountiful pussy” doesn’t do civilization any good unless live births are pushed out nine months later.

        And if it’s only the Alphas getting the “bountiful pussy”, and only the Alphas having their children pushed out nine months later, then Western Civilization will have degenerated back into a pre-civilizational “Big Man” polygamist state.

        Classically – going all the way back to Athens and Rome [BUT NOT TO JERUSALEM!!!] – Western Civilization was founded on the principal of One Man/One Woman.

        And here I would tend to agree with what I would imagine might be Matthew King’s point of view: The True Alpha – the leader of men – would take it upon himself to start evangelizing the betas of his acquaintance in the Theory of Game and Neo-Masculinity and, at a bare minimum, the Anti-Anti-Truth of the Dark Enlightenment [if not into full-blown Truth Itself].

        Teach or prod or nudge or ridicule or encourage or what-the-hell-ever as many Betas as possible into growing a pair and becoming the Men that Western Civilization so desperately needs the Betas to become.

        And as far as I’m concerned, the evangelization in Game and Neo-Masculinity and the Dark Enlightenment is what the Chateau is all about.

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      • It cuts both ways. In the ancient societies, they did shame lifelong bachelors and single men. Anyway, these terms —- Dark Enlightenment, etc — seem to send the wrong message to a lot of the commenters, who are convinced that women are practically some other species that lust solely for evil. Some of these screeds read like smart 13 year olds wrote them.

        So they create this false dilemma of being successful with women or be “good.” Nothing could be further from the truth. You can be whoever you want and be successful with women.

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      • This is the single most thing I’ve ever agreed with you on here. I’ll cut back to the Paul Walker shit from down the line. Matthew King asked- “Did Paul Walker embody the Dark Enlightenment?” Not at all, not even a little… but he slayed any pussy he came across. He was a magnanimous philanthripost, and still got rich off the backs of the disgusting leftists that rule Hollywood. CH didn’t grok all this in the original post but that is ok. He was a stratospheric Alpha for THESE reasons above all

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  14. Great stuff, CH, dead on right.

    We have had the “liberation” of womyn, and what has been the result?
    * Massive female production of out-of-wedlock children. This is despite “safe and legal” birth control and abortion.
    * To support these womyn-and-their-children, the USA implements a massive welfare state, with females as a primary lobbying/beneficiary group.
    * Beta males running around in frantic circles trying to get any female attention, no matter how much degradation they must endure–hence the herbs who prance around at feminazi events such as slutwalks.

    Fortunately, the collapse of civilization can not be too far behind!

    Just listen for the sound of gunshots in the ghetto and the silence of empty playgrounds in the suburbs.

    …or the crispy sound of cars burning in Scandinavia. The rank-and-file men who once might have held the shield wall against the rioting interlopers have been replaced by wussified “male” feminists.

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    • “The rank-and-file men who once might have held the shield wall against the rioting interlopers have been replaced by wussified “male” feminists.”

      No, we just think it will be less painful in the long run if we just stand back and let them get on with it…

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  15. [Not a scintilla of curiosity how men will respond when women “choose multiple partners because they have more options available to them, they can rely on their support network during transitional times, and they have greater personal autonomy.]
    The response has been going on for some time. Marriage rates have shrank dramatically over the last 2 decades as fewer men are interested in becoming husbands.

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    • Fewer women are either, apparently…

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      • Not until they see their 30th birthday and ‘The Wall’ approaching, anyway. Then they get frantic to marry ASAP because they can feel their eggs drying out. Hence the screeching about the lack of ‘Good Men’ and the complaining about ‘Peter Pans who refuse to grow up’.

        MGTOW — because a man needs a woman like a fish needs scuba gear.

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  16. Did women ever really love beta males…or for that matter alpha males? Or did they just love what they provided them.

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    • I am going to say yes given the ponderously large volumes of works describing romantic love since writing was even developed. In a right side up world, women with strong father figures will love their fathers unconditionally. As she matures and grows with this figure this type of deep and abiding love will eventually transfer to husband.

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    • Women *only* love stuff – they’ll take it from a beta who leaves them dry, yet prefer it from an alpha who can wring the juices from their shrivelled selves.

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    • “Did women ever really love beta males…or for that matter alpha males?”

      Are you asking if women generally are capable of romantic, enduring love? The answer is yes. Some women aren’t capable of it, and some definitely lie about it for personal gain.

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    • Women never loved beta males. Women have always loved alpha males. I’d rather divide it between weak and strong men, tho.

      Although, the way you phrase the question and its after-statement brings me a little pause. Self-interest is the prime motivator. So technically yes, women love alpha males for the emotions they provide. You love women for the emotions they provide. World keeps spinning.

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      • Keep in mind that even low ranking males of times past were more masculine in comparison to todays lower status guys.
        Who would she choose given the choice between your average lowly American Civil War enlisted man or your run of the mill office nerd?

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      • That’s a good point. I’m unsure about the veracity, but if it is true, then yeah…could explain a few issues. I honestly think it’s either a huge outlier or exception for a woman to truly love more than one man at a time. The problem is that Disney has hazed over what real love looks like. Some men can honestly believe that a woman is in love with them after they had tepid sex with a woman that itself was preceded by three months of dating. And then those men marry the women and are confused when the sex dries up.

        A lot of the time you hear them say shit like ‘our sex life was great in the beginning.’ I wager anything that if you ask the woman what the sex life was like in the beginning she’d say ‘it was ok.’

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      • And by “tepid sex” you mean “loving” sex that was no degrading and rapelike. Which happens because “would you do that to the mother of your kids?” Whereas the natural thing that both women and men want is rapelike.

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      • And by “tepid sex” you mean “loving” sex that was no degrading and rapelike. Which happens because “would you do that to the mother of your kids?” Whereas the natural thing that both women and men want is rapelike.

        Yup, there’s your problem. You are still putting women on a pedestal. And umm….fuck yeah I’d do that to the mother of my kids. That is what she wants. That is what satisfies her. When a woman shows you that side of herself, you should rejoice. That’s what love and intimacy are for a woman, in a lot of ways. Nothing wrong with that.

        Like I said, the beta-fed-Disney will give her a fairytale but will ultimately fail to satisfy her. Women want a man to possess and consume them. In every way.

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    • alpha’s yes.

      I’ve always been a very introverted Natural and I’ve worked so hard on attraction that at some point unbeknownst to me I crossed over and like CH’s Paul Walker post, have been wrongly focusing in on attraction ILO attainability for about 6 months now.

      Ran the theory by my last long term (that just didn’t end in a feels good normal way) and she agreed AND gave specific examples. For the record this was one bad ass bitch, and I really felt the loss, so it was totally worth the exercise.

      The good news is that at some point in your life process, your alpha cred can be and stay at incredible levels. Then and only then can you be the moral, nice guy that you would prefer to be.

      Since that post I’m much much softer (a reversion to my natural mean of course) and the social response has been triple or quadruple my usual flat affect (first FAS reference gets punished Scray and Greatest Beta style) maneuvering.

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      • Yeah I’ve noticed that too…be alpha on the outside by learning game…and the moral guy on the inside to protect your soul.

        If you don’t have any armor on the outside…your soul is left woefully unprotected.

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    • on December 6, 2013 at 3:06 am Carlos Danger

      Interesting statistic- in the French Revolution, when they first allowed free divorce, women filed for 70% of the divorces. Does that sound familiar?

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  17. 1. “…where women have more material support from their kin or economic independence from men more generally.”

    2. “…where the sex ratio is female-biased (indicating a scarcity of men) or there is a high level of male unemployment (indicating a scarcity of men who can provide support)”

    Regarding #1, another word for this scenario is SouthernCalifornia.

    Where an extremely high percentage of women aged 18-30 either:

    a) lives at home with their parents, with next to zero budget expenditures save for her smartphone, car payment, shopping and entertaiment budget she spends with her groups of girlfriends who also contentedly live at home.

    [This is actually a decent writeup on Wikipedia about the same phenomenon in Japan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_single%5D

    b) live away from home, a predictable bi-monthly allowance direct deposited in her bank account from her parents’ checking account.

    c) lives with her boyfriend who pays the majority of the bills

    All the while working a part-time cool/fun/social job where she meets “tons of people who like to go out” or the luxury of a resume-padding unpaid internship.

    Guys who work 50-60 hours per week she sees as “OMG how boring! The guys I work with like to party.”. Remaining oblivious to the fact that her and her co-workers’ income would send most any normal person looking for a nice soft bench in the park to sleep on until the soup kitchen opens in the morning.

    As far as #2 goes, Man Diego (San Diego) fits the bill perfectly. (Some would say Man Jose (San Jose) although SJ has many men who can provide support via tech work).

    San Diego indeed has a dearth of jobs for many men, and a very high percentage of young women living in some way supported by their family, boyfriend/benefactor or The State (next of kin, Uncle Sam).

    This area is a good glimpse into the future of the US if unrestricted Third World illegal immigration is allowed. The fact that, within 2 generations, this happy beach bunny city full of young women and year-round sunny weather, a region the Beach Boys sung about as “two girls for every guy” has turn into an H1B, male-heavy, wage-suppressed, men-depressed, high-priced Sanctuary City and 24 hour hypergamous playground for subsidized partygirls.

    If it can happen here, it can happen anywhere.

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    • on December 5, 2013 at 8:38 pm Life at Calhoun's Lake

      Funny thing I’ve noticed. The cities with the best weather in this country are the worst for young men (i.e. California). The cities with the worst weather are where young men fare best (minneapolis and chicago).

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    • on December 6, 2013 at 5:39 am Hugh G. Rection

      Throw in that tech work isn’t that highly paid because the few employers have an agreement not to poach each other’s employees, depressing wages.

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  18. In small hunter gather tribes they would have these orgies. No one knew who the father was, but they were all closely related. The genetic stakes were lower. So is that gonna worked with someone just passing through?

    So another observation to make is that sexual jealousy will be muted when a small nation state like Iceland that has a good deal of genetic similarity which is why male lions that are brothers typically share a pride. In a mobile, multicultural society like the US, don’t expect peaceful resolutions on who is going to pay for the routine maintenance of the sperm tank.

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    • In small hunter gather tribes they would have these orgies.

      how do you know?

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      • I am remarkably well informed.

        “Ten and even twelve have wives common to them, and particularly brothers among brothers, and parents among their children; but if there be any issue by these wives, they are reputed to be the children of those by whom respectively each was first espoused when a virgin. ”

        -Caesar, Gallic wars.

        One can even see this principle in ancient Hebrew in the sin of Onan. The path of least resistance to secure a similar offspring was a brother.

        Several other tribes around the world had these modes of partible paternity.

        I also read about one in Central America sometime ago that was more like an orgy so that 5 men who would bang her . Then they would all assume some paternal role.

        Obviously the more men banging away , the more opportunity there is to exploit and army of suckers to serve your loins. Actually I think that is what the welfare state is isn’t it?

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  19. CH read this case, 486 F.3d 1087, to see what happens with women in the workforce and how our socialist country is fucked. I know you understand why.
    Stephanie Gambini.

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  20. “women screw around with charming cads and ignore beta providers when their financial needs are met by the state or by a rich daddy, and their emotional needs are met by a supportive culture that condones the removal of all restrictions on female sexuality.”

    Women eschew *marriage* when their needs are met by the state or a rich daddy, but that doesn’t always mean they screw around. There are plenty of co-habitating couples with children who aren’t getting married because our government makes it financially disadvantageous to do so. I’m not saying this isn’t an awful trend, but it doesn’t necessarily suggest a multiple-partner lifestyle.

    That statistic on Iceland is staggering. It really says it all.

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    • Women screw around when opportunity with a higher status male, incentive, and reasonable deniability are present, period.

      The biological imperative can not be reasoned away, only rationalized after the fact.

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    • Amy,

      Detox my Buttox

      -GB

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    • I’ll use my own self-example: I used to “work” at a prison “interviewing” the same kind of badboys that I would spread my legs for my entire life. I even dated a convicted felon.

      Life is pretty good if you’re a woman, you have an affinity for black men, and big daddy government is willing to pay the bills so much so that I can buy enough tequila and Chex’Mix to throw orgies in my house weekly. Why get married when I practically can sleep with Obama and my battery-operated Mike Tyson?

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  21. This is why I read CH – and why my husband now reads CH. (He was thoroughly entertained by your skewering of the Obamacare ads.)

    “Monogamy is central to any democratic social contract designed to prevent a breakdown of society into a war of every man against every other man…A society of open sexual competition, in which the rich and powerful or sexually attractive can command large numbers of women, is a society with the most intolerable hierarchy or all.” George Gilder, “Men and Marriage”, circa 1986.

    The ghetto males were the just the leading indicator which has been largely ignored because their economic withdrawal from society had minimal effect. Now, we have the beginning of the lower middle class and middle class white male withdrawal from society, and, oddly enough, the gears of the economy are slowly grinding to a halt….

    “The sexual market is a giant biofeedback loop” – so true. A lone guy writing a PUA blog has this figured out, yet our politicians, professors, assorted Marxist gurus (this includes “feminists”) and media hacks either have not figured it out or do not care.

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  22. I think i finally get you Heartiste. You are the white knight for the white race.

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  23. jesus fucking christ. pure cathedral propoganda. like a white man would flirt with that ugly black girl. lzolzozlzozlzz

    http://madamenoire.com/323694/flirting-tips-work/2/

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  24. Iceland with its 67% out of wedlock birth rate not only has a massive welfare state to support all the single moms but they don’t even pay for it themselves. They borrowed a bunch of money and then recently stiffed their creditors. The only reason it didn’t have worldwide economic repercussions is because Iceland is such a small country. When the U.S. welfare state can no longer pay its bills and stiffs their creditors, it will take the global economy down with it into a worldwide economic collapse.

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    • Their creditors were the Germans. And stiffing them was so popular at the time there’s a book about it.

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    • The dads are still (mostly) around, living with the mums, bringing up the kids, they just don’t marry. And pretty much everyone there works. There are some wasters and druggies, but few by Western standards.

      It’s a great place. They have huge amounts of energy because of hydro and geothermal – far more than they need for a population of 300,000. So they refine aluminium, catch lots of fish and are considering a huge DC cable to the UK, to sell green electricity to that once-great island.

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      • It works without completely fracturing because it is a nation of intelligent, northern european whites. If Iceland, Norway, Finland and Sweden ever embraced full on, Free market capitalism, watch the fuck out.

        Introduce some “diversity” and watch it unwind faster than aids infections at at an African prison.

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      • This African asylum seeker seeks the presidency of Iceland, charismatic megafauna, as Sailer noted:

        http://www.grapevine.is/News/ReadArticle/Paul-Ramses-Running-for-President-of-Iceland

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      • The Germans have finally figured out that conquering Europe is much easier with briefcase and check book than with tanks and bombs.
        Iceland?
        Heck, Germany could BUY Iceland before even getting out of bed and it wouldn’t even produce a blip on the FTSE.
        Then the rest of Scandinavia before breakfast, Greece takes until brunch.

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      • on December 6, 2013 at 5:47 am Hugh G. Rection

        No, actually they haven’t. What Germany as an economy is doing is exchanging valuable goods for debts of questionable value. For some reason though it has the rest of the world convinced that it holds all the cards while the reality is the opposite.

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    • Cut the bs.The GDP per capita of Iceland is higher than of France of the UK.They are very large producers of herring,cod and mackerel,and I am talking massive numbers on a commodity market.Insanely massive.They have enough money not to borrow.

      If you are referring to the story of Landsbanki ,its more complicated than this.

      Btw I was one of the Icesave account holders too,I got all my money back eventually.

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      • Iceland has a high standard of living? They can’t even pay their mortgages. From a Reuters story: “Iceland said on Saturday it would launch a mortgage debt relief programme worth about 150 billion krona ($1.26 billion), in a move that could hurt its credit ratings and which critics say could scare off foreign investors.

        Iceland is slowly recovering from its deepest ever financial crisis, but many households are saddled with mortgages they cannot afford to repay, squeezing consumer spending and economic growth.”

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  25. […] When Women Stop Loving Beta Males […]

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  26. Perhaps one instance of large swaths of disillusioned betas denied needs was implied in (feminist man-Gina) Stieg Larsson’s books…

    Hint: Ask Mr. Whore-Finder.

    .
    Btw, silly man-Francisco lefties at Wired.com already trying to say men and women not wired differently. Har har har!

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/12/getting-in-a-tangle-over-men-and-womens-brain-wiring/

    Lib-tard Hockenberry tried to write it down to behavioral conditioning at least 2x yesterday, too. Teh lulz…

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  27. Whether its ego or some biological impulse, most high value men seek to sire offspring, not just pleasure themselves with concubines. I think this is where the feminist-utopia breaks down. It isn’t just beta males that seek a genetic legacy and strong family. A beautiful woman is not immune from disqualification as a genetic partner if she is known to be slutty.

    Whether a high value woman is going to be the matriarch of her family or a monthly pump and dump depends on whether she buys into the whole monogamy thing. Women that don’t have their hypergamy in check are just like men who are well-known cads…good for only one thing.

    One of the limitations to the sexual market theory is that alphas cannot screw every woman that they are capable of screwing. And an alpha that wants a family is going to screw WAY less. The feminist utopia depends on an infinite supply of alpha sex, and its just not there. The high value men will invest their resources in a virtuous woman, and may have a mistress or two at most. The feminist utopian women will be left to be pumped and dumped by the leftover cads (lessor alphas/higher betas).

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    • now you’re getting it.. better to reduce the “high value women” to unworthy sluts so the lindy wests of the world might catch the stray jizzim of da bawz on an off day

      meanwhile, away consumerist corporate slave land, unchecked women = 70% of fiat dollar flow = yachts for blue bloods to sail on the collective sweat/tears of a nation

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  28. Sucks for the women… only response to this is to learn game and keep your money to yourself.

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    • I only regret that I have but one wedding vow to not give.

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    • and that is why those of us who did not discover the red pill until after a divorce theft are so royally fucked.

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    • I’d be a little more generous.

      Learn game…and determine which women would have a better shot at getting your resources…and which you should know to keep your resources to yourself. And if you are thinking this ratio is no more that 10/90 right now…you are in good company. I’d take my chances with a woman who has a strong father figure and some sense of the masculinity and the world…over the lion share of women these days.

      For Christian men…this is one of the most vital things to know in this society.

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  29. You don’t need to cast afar to see what a free love society that caters entirely to women’s sexual prerogatives means. Just listen for the sound of gunshots in the ghetto and the silence of empty playgrounds in the suburbs.

    This.

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  30. Beautiful, Heartiste.

    Just beautiful.

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  31. hello off topic maybe but relevant
    Walker was an alpha but he committed an offense in buying a $9,000 (some places report it as 10 K ) engagement ring for an ex soldier and his bride.
    The story goes the young soldier could not “afford” the ring and Walker paid for it on the sly.
    The problem here is
    one the young soldier was foolish in wishing to buy such a ring out of his price range
    two the young woman wanted the ring no matter how she got it.
    three the couple should not have accepted such an expensive gift, (after the “sure give me an expensive gift my husband can’t afford” wears off they should have returned it.

    So Walker was an alpha but he contributed to the gold digger identity of American women and yes I will say it, down the road when this young couple divorces and they are dividing the property who will get this ring and what memory will it carry?

    ….just one man’s opinion…..

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    • Then she’ll sell it and get a thousand bucks for it.

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    • This is called a red-pill paranoia,dude.

      Walker was an alpha and he did not care about all this crap about “bad american women”.I bet he has never even met one.All women he knew were hot,friendly and devoted.

      And he made a man happy.

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      • I don’t think migsflecha is saying that Walker meant to do anything other than be a good (rich) dude by buying the ring for a young trooper and his girl. By all accounts, Walker was a good guy who lived an admirably Positive Masculine life.

        I think migsflecha meant that Walker’s action and surrounding context, separate from Walker’s altruistic intention, contributed to a greater blue-pill cultural problem.

        Key: “the young woman wanted the ring no matter how she got it.”

        The ‘how’ matters greatly in an engagement ring ceremony due to what it traditionally represents. The value and meaning of an engagement or wedding ring is that it’s ‘of’ and from the man to his woman, representing their bonding. The value of the ring is not in its dollar expense or flash, but rather its personal provenance. An onion ring from Krusty Burger that is properly ‘of’ and from the man to his intended wife is more – and differently – valuable than a $9K ring that is paid for by another man and esteemed foremost for its price tag and appearance.

        I don’t blame Walker nor the girl. I blame the young trooper cargo-culting his engagement, not understanding the deeper meaning of the ritual, and doing it wrong. By accepting the ring from Walker, however well-intentioned, and actually using Walker’s gift as an engagement ring for his woman missed the point of the engagement ring tradition. By the traditional measurement, the trooper’s $9K engagement ring paid for by another man is worthless.

        * A family heirloom ring, though also not entirely ‘of’ and from a man, is a different case with its own tradition of bonding a woman to her husband’s clan or family.

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    • what you wrote was the wages of a gamma.

      you must be in IT, I can always tell.

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  32. >cerebral Scalzi

    I’m stealing that phrase

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  33. Islamic civilization has done very little for humanity, and the Arab race has never produced a Nikola Tesla, Albert Einstein or Isaac Newton. And had it not been for the white man’s inventions, the Muslims would still be enslaving people and basically living in the 6th century.

    Despite how primitive the Islamic world might seem, they are far more advanced than the West on how to properly govern women. And this recent CH article confirms how essential it is to regulate female sexuality, by force if necessary.

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    • Islamic countries allow polygamy. Therefore, each man does not have the possibility of getting a wife, and those men know it. This is why homosexuality is rampant (although a man can not be openly gay), and “Islamic civilization” remains an oxymoron.

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      • They send their surplus men to Western nations,
        To act as colonists. When they arrive they are more than willing and able to scoop up Western women, being willing and able to deliver the necessary dose of controlling lacking in some many womens lives today.

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      • If you’re lucky Jen you may just be able to get some Sunni Delight for yourself.

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      • Agreed – the Muslim men are filling the vacuum created by the lack of masculine European men. We have not had the same influx of them as Europe, yet..

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      • “Islamic countries allow polygamy. Therefore, each man does not have the possibility of getting a wife, and those men know it. This is why homosexuality is rampant (although a man can not be openly gay), and ‘Islamic civilization’ remains an oxymoron.”

        Just because a number of Muslim nations allow polygyny doesn’t mean that most Islamic men will take multiple wives. A simple google search for “polygamy in islam” would have yielded statistics showing that no more than 1% of all marriages in the Middle East are plural unions. These numbers are too insignificant to cause “rampant,” to use your exaggeration word, gay sex in the Middle East due to a supposed lack of women.

        I guess you were so desperate to criticize my opinion that you forgot to do some basic research.

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      • These numbers are too insignificant to cause “rampant,” to use your exaggeration word, gay sex in the Middle East due to a supposed lack of women.

        Yeah, agree with you there. It must be the fact that they cover their women in tents and force them to marry their cousins, thereby making meeting unrelated women in the normal way impossible.

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      • Just trying to explain the problem with polygamy without writing an essay…. it creates societal instability.

        Let’s accept your “1%” number. Look up the imbalance of males to females in Muslim countries. Add to that the fact that the females are heavily chaperoned and you have rampant homosexuality. It is a commonly accepted fact of life in Muslim countries. Soldiers returning from Afghanistan will tell you about the common practice of local men having sex with pre-pubescent boys in that country.

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    • Almost every great scientific and mathematical breakthrough attributed to the middle middle-east came before Islam took hold.

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      • Incorrect.
        Until about the 16th century or so, the Islamic world was quite far ahead of a Europe groaning under the iron fist of the church in sciences, art, and, to some extent, even freedom.
        As long as you acknowledged Allah as the one true god and the Padishah as the one true ruler of heaven & earth publicly, you could do privately whatever the hell you pleased.
        No inquisition, no witch hunts, no denouncing of heretics, nada.
        They inherited this very liberal attitude from the Mongol invaders, who provided the ruling classes in the Middle East for several hundreds of years.
        A series of progressively more ineffectual rulers (more Arab, less Turk), several crushing and very embarrassing defeats at the hands of the infidel Frankish dogs and the rise of an ultra-conservative caste of clerics later, the Moslem world stagnated and started to regress back into the Middle Ages, where they pretty much remain to this day.

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      • Yep, as in anything, calibration matters. Social structure can be an ordered framework that promotes growth, like a trellis. Or social structure can be restrictive and limit growth. Islam crossed over.

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      • The Islamic Golden Age ended in the 13th Century when the Mongols destroyed Baghdad. Subsequent conquest by the Turks destroyed any surviving civilization. The Ottomans kept the Arab world in a medieval timewarp until the early 20th Century.

        Surprisingly to modern eyes, Muslim Arab civilization was not only far ahead of our own, but had liberal attitudes towards welfare and women. This is sometimes cited as a reason for its eventual conquest by a more “masculine” culture. The same pattern has been repeated several times throughout history, and we are in the middle of our own cultural suicide right now.

        This process is described in the books “The Fate of Empires” by Sir John Glubb, and “Sex and Culture” by J. D. Unwin. Read them and weep.

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      • I stand corrected. Early islam wasn’t nearly as restrictive as it became after the Turks ran things. I got it mixed up.

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    • “…by force if necessary”

      Good luck. How are you going to accomplish that, without mass bloodshed?

      Although, I totally agree with you. I just can’t explain details on a public website.

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  34. on December 5, 2013 at 4:36 pm Real Beat Reporter

    “…you don’t need to cast afar to see what a free love society that caters entirely to women’s sexual prerogatives means. Just listen for the sound of gunshots in the ghetto and the silence of empty playgrounds…”

    If you’re interested in a real-life example of how a society crumbles when betas leave the picture, then watch “The Pruitt-Igoe Myth.” Even though it’s subject is black America, this can happen to white America with the way things are going. Here’s how the story goes:

    1. Government creates big shiny new thing (high rise project) with the idea of creating this planned environment that can control.

    2. Women are lured from their humble, but stable environment, with promises the government won’t eventually be able to keep. However, in exchange for the government’s help, their beta supporters aren’t allowed to live there or support them.

    3. Eventually, because there are no working men around to fix things or hold authority, things fall apart both literally and figuratively.

    4. Money get thrown at the the problem, however this money is raised by borrowing it and taxing the very women who can’t afford it

    5.The problem grows beyond the government’s ability fix or control it, so they abandon it and burn it to the ground, leaving a broken society in it’s wake.

    The most remarkable thing about this social experiment is that it took only a short generation (20 years) for things to get run into the ground.

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    • > “however this money is raised by borrowing it and taxing the very women who can’t afford it”

      See the GBFM, as above, on fiat currencies and student loan debt and eBernankification.

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  35. on December 5, 2013 at 4:37 pm Modern Primitive

    From the WSJ article

    “Even young people who engage in monogamous relationships before marriage may be hurting their prospects for a faithful married life. The habits they form in those premarital relationships are likely to affect their marriages, ”

    Confirms the Chateau theory that the more cocks a woman has had before marriage the less likely she is to be faithful to the cock she married.

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    • Not absolute.Plenty of stories when a man would marry a virgin and than she would go cock-carousel in 4-5 years after a wedding.

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      • And? It’s a numbers game. Society’s rules are for the benefit of society. The behavior of the minority isn’t as much of a concern when the behavior of the majority is getting the ball moved down-field.

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    • Our ancestors married off their 14 year old virgins, at the hieght of their smv, serving to command the highest price and simultaneously circumventing a trip on the carousel.

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  36. The study’s tl;dr implication: betas shouldn’t expect monogamy from feminists. Or even in general, betas shouldn’t expect monogamy from women raised in feminist countries.

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  37. Tango from Argentina, White or Black dance? some claim this:

    -The deep roots of Tango lie in African slavery. The Tango is a mixture of dances peculiar to Blacks in Haiti, Cuba and Argentina. Both the music and the dance were intense and erotic. Tango was first danced in Europe before World War I. It originates from Buenos Aires (Argentina) where it was first danced in the ghetto of Buenos Aires. It was then known under the name of “Baile con corte” (dance with a rest). During the Spanish American War, a popular dance called the “Habanera del Cafe” appeared which was the prototype of the Tango. The “dandies” of Buenos Aires changed the dance in two ways. First they changed the so-called “Polka rhythm” to the “Habanere rhythm” and secondly they called it “Tango”.

    However:
    – Tango is done with the man and woman facing each other, with the man holding the woman’s right hand in his left, and with his right arm around her. This concept was still very new. The first known dance to ever use this hold was the Vienna Waltz in 1830. Then came the Polka in 1840. The first thing that makes this Afro-myth so ridiculous is that free-form couples dancing does not exist in sub-Saharan Africa prior to white colonialism. It is a strictly European custom and particularly popular in countries like Spain and Italy. The myth becomes even more ludicrous when you look at where Tango came from. Buenos Aries, Argentina during the 1880′s and 1890′s. At this time Buenos Aries was about 3-4% blacks. The black population mostly lived in shanty towns on the outskirts of the city. The two largest groups were Spaniards and Italians, settlers from two countries where free-form couples dancing was thriving. So to believe this myth, we have to believe that a tiny minority whose culture never included couples dancing, “invented the Tango” and taught it to the white people. Actual “Traditional African Dancing” consists of group dancing to percussion instruments. Complex instruments and music theory did not exist in Sub-Saharan Africa prior to white colonialism.Few African slaves were ever taken to Argentina. A few thousand in the 1700′s. In 1856 slavery was abolished, however male slaves were required to serve in Argentina army to gain citizenship. The percentage of Argentinians who are black shrank rapidly during the 1800′s because of a European only immigration policy. The constitution of Argentina calls for “European Immigration” in Article 25.
    Article 25: The Federal Government will encourage European immigration; and will not restrict, limit, nor tax the entry of any foreigner into the territory of Argentina who comes with the goal of working the land, bettering industry, or introducing or teaching sciences or the arts.

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    • In the 1990’s, it was en vogue to suspect everyone of being gay.
      That has passed.
      I thought the period in which everything was suspected to be of Black/African origin had already passed as well, but I guess I was wrong.
      Tango neither looks nor feels ‘African’ in any way at all, and to me, the music traditionally associated with Tango seems more reminiscent of eastern European and Gypsy tunes than anything else.

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      • 😦 ,it has some European influences without a doubt such as Waltz, i found that article randomly on the web and wanted to believe it,seemed very logic, however it seems the proof that Tango has African influences and even is more African overall than anything else is strong.

        Whites are so great at many things, proportionaly they should créate by themselves most dances and music just as they créate the most of everything else, and the value of music and dance is so big being such a cool thing, at least the Paso Doble from Spain is 100% White.

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    • on December 6, 2013 at 2:53 am Carlos Danger

      Argentina never had slavery.

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    • Noway Tango has roots from african slavery.

      1)Niggas can’t dance with grace.They can shake but they can’t dance “white”.With technique and grace.The negro pair dance Kizomba is quite sensual but very primitive,technically.

      2) There have never been slaves in Argentina.Especially black slaves. Argentinians are not even Amerindian (what you call Latin in states).They are 99% descendants of Europeans.

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      • One book I read (about Tango, nonetheless…) describes Argentinians as ‘Italians on a beef diet’, which isn’t totally incorrect.
        There are at least as many Argentines with Italian roots as with Spanish roots, there also seem to be quite a lot of Germans and even Brits.
        Based on what I’ve seen and read, the percentage of Native and other non-White populations in Argentina seems to be very, very low compared to most of the rest of Latin America.

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      • 🙂 I hope so, i praise Blacks for their talents too, but i wanted more White representation on dances given the White talent in many things, besides Argentina is not very Black unlike Cuba ,However many people have wrote that Argentina is more likely to be between 50% and 80% White; lets say is 65% White, many Argentinians are Mestizos that look like Mexicans or Peruvians, if Argentina were that White, it would be way wealthier than it is.

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      • feministgirl,

        Detox my Buttox.

        My buttox are generating whopping quantums of gas, and when the gas is released, it will be dense and creamy…

        At that time, it will be your privilege and goal to….

        ……Detox my Buttox

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      • Let’s use this opportunity to dispel – yet again – another pop culture myth.
        I go out on average 3 times a week, and absolutely nothing I’ve encountered in night clubs, bars, dance studios or community centers has supported the notion that Black or Hispanic people are somehow more ‘gifted’ dancers than others.
        In fact, most of the really gifted ‘naturals’ I’ve come across (male and female) are Whites of northern or eastern European backgrounds.

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  38. on December 5, 2013 at 7:19 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    http://michaelfields.org/category/interns-and-alumni/

    Another misandric leftoid organization. ALL the agriculture interns are females. What sort of manipulation of the candidate-pool does one need to engage in to obtain THAT result?

    There are some males around in the organization. Seems they all threw their testicles away some years ago. Par for the course amongst the leftoids.

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  39. “Just listen for the sound of gunshots in the ghetto and the silence of empty playgrounds in the suburbs.”

    That is what women want. Have you ever noticed women in the ghetto don’t seem to be making a strong effort to get out of the hood? Why would they? They are surrounded by all the aggressive dominant alpha males they could ever ask for. Civilization is something that men want, something that men desire for the future. Women do not care for it, and never will. All civilization does for women is churn out weak beta males that she will have to marry after she is forced by her father or by financial constraints. Even today, women who do not live in dangerous neighborhoods are disgusted by the large number of non intimidating and safe betas walking around.

    All these new high tech gadgets are just silly distractions women use to occupy their time while they aren’t fucking an alpha. They don’t really care for them and will not miss them as long as they are surrounded by the aggressive alpha males they crave. We keep waiting for some day of reckoning when the water and power turns off and women get whats coming to them, and it isn’t coming because that is exactly what they have been waiting for. Once the water shuts off and there is no food all those harmless little betas who sit in their basement or spend their whole day at the office will finally become aggressive alpha males who take what they want to put food in their stomach and protect what is theirs. Women everywhere will finally have all the violent alpha males they could ask for. Sure, they will live in complete and utter poverty, they will have a shorter lifespan, and their kids will have no guarantee of living past the age of 10, but all of that is an insignificant concern compared to being able to wake up and walk out of their front door and submit themselves to a violent alpha male who takes what he wants and does as he pleases. At the end of the day, some alpha will throw them just enough scraps to survive and continue being the life support system for the pussy he likes fucking, and women instinctively know this.

    My point is, you want to save civilization? It is up to men and men only. No help will be received from women, and women will actually work to sabotage any efforts to preserve civilization, as civilization simply decreases their chances of getting the alpha male seed and constant drama they all desire. Women would rather get their head caved in by a serial killer alpha male than live with a beta. Time to accept that women are simple and primitive creatures who do not need or want the luxury of living in a civilization.

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    • Reading this post makes me very sad.

      Sad because men still can’t see the role they have and continue to play in this. You are a product of your own shallow desires. Now that it is coming back to bite you in the butt, its all women’s fault?

      There are PLENTY of women who understand and appreciate civilization AND Beta men (to a degree). No, women do not like pushovers or men who are supplicating and weak. But that doesn’t equate to wanting violent thugs and serial killers. What women want are strong men who are masculine YES. That also doesn’t equate to violent thugs.

      And anyone who would call the losers in the ghetto who are running rampant “alphas” is certainly given the side eye by me. Since when did Alpha equate to being a low life violent thug with nothing to offer but your penis? And I certainly wouldn’t call the women who choose these men as fathers of their children HIGH CALIBER either. Water typically seeks its own level.

      Unfortunately, nowadays that is going out the window with decent high Caliber men seeking low life women who simply “look hot” as their wives, gf’s and mothers of their children and now they are getting BURNED by these women, it’s all women’s fault? COME ON.

      Many women with HALF their brain cells in tact also understand what happens when there is a “lack” of civilization – that women and their children will suffer the most. Women who care about this, are still happily married to great men (yes even Betas) and appreciate the life and protection and the emotional stability and consistency they get with their Beta partners.

      Knowing this, it’s in women’s best interest (the smart ones) to maintain and continue the pro creating and relationships with reasonable Beta men who are generally good people and more likely to give you sane and mentally healthy children.

      Unfortunately, for many of you (including many Beta men) these women who are up to par in this area may not be of the “YOUNG, HOT, SLUTTY” variety with a boatload of issues that you chase after and desire. So, then you deal with the consequences of your desires and choices as men.

      If you chase after stray dogs or mentally ill dogs with pretty fur, then you ill still catch fleas. Walking past the average plain Jane who is feminine with potential is what is costing so many men many of the problems so many of you complain about on these boards daily.

      All you guys do is talk about what number a woman’s looks represent, and then wonder why you can’t find quality women to build a stronger civilization with?! LOL

      If you want a HOT woman and that is the only or highest pre-requisite for you dating and pursuing women, then you take a chance. These women are high on the radar of men with more to offer many times and they are aware of this and are using it to their advantages. Yet the girl next door plain Jane who is normal and maybe not as hot gets ignored by many men looking to pull the next Beauty Queen and trophy wife.

      If all you care about is how a woman looks, then be prepared to deal with the unfortunate consequences of what THAT kind of shallowness brings. Including marrying her and having children with a woman who is not of high caliber but “looks good”. Well you took that chance and got burned because of your shallow choice in mate. Just as women who make dumb decisions in men for shallow reasons always pay a price.

      I am not saying men should desire ugly or disgusting women. But modest, feminine, non-overly slutty or not traditionally “HOT” women who are in the plainer Jane range (i.e. 5-7) is not what is at the top of most men’s list in terms of looking for LTR

      You all want Models and perfect specimens and , that is fine, but that comes with a cost as well.

      So while you are blaming women for everything, men also need to take a look in the mirror. Are you ignoring that plain Jane with potential or average girl who is not in the running to be a Hawaiian Tropic model but would make a great solid long term partner and mother of your children because she isn’t in the (7-10) range in looks?

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      • No. We are happy with 6s and 7s who are *thin*. All it takes is to be thin, but 90% of women refuse to stay thin. That is all we require. Pretty good comment overall but slightly off.

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    • There are choices. And the decline of civilization does not start nor end with WOMEN. Men helped it along just fine. I cannot tell you how many decent attractive men I have seen married up to some idiot of a woman (WHO THEY KNEW WAS A LOSER) but still married and pro created with her because she was “HOT” – and are now dealing with crazy ass kids who took on their mothers unfortunate craziness and issues, or just dealing with not being able to have a positive effect on their children’s lives because the mother has been granted sole custody or has a strong influence on how the children are raised.

      This happens all the time. So while you complain about women choosing and pro creating with “BAD” men, the same applies to decent men choosing ‘BAD’ women with a boatload of issues and pro creating with them knowing full well these women are LOSERS but because they looked a certain way you took that chance and played with your sanity and the mental and emotional lives of your children.

      The equivalent to the Alpha Bad boy for a woman is the hot but sluty chick with issues. You choose to play with those types, then you take a risk. PERIOD. There are still sane people in the world who prefer to not take their risks or chances the former and latter and seek more positive qualities in their mates other than how they look or them being a bad boy with really nothing to offer as a foundation.

      It works both ways fellas!

      [CH: a woman who is hot is by definition a sexual market winner. hth clear things up.]

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      • Rarely do I see beauty being passed down from mother to child.

        [CH: are you a heredity denier?]

        If a guy wants something hot and young, he can always keep a mistress.

        [or three.]

        If he wants successful kids, he needs to wife up a bright engineer or programmer and keep her at home.

        [beauty and intelligence correlate. stawp trolling.]

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      • CH, if beauty and intelligence correlate, then Harvard/MIT girls would mostly be HB 8s, 9s, and 10s. They are not. (Trust me on this one) Now, on the IQ 70-85 part of the bellcurve, you get Rachel Jeantels and June Shannons, but that does not mean that genius women are beautiful. The most beautiful women would tend to be average IQ; smart enough to avoid looking like a Walmartian; dumb enough to not put quantum mechanics and thermodynamics over fashion, exercise, hair, makeup, etc.

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      • It isnt difficult Neecy.
        Your job as a woman is to stay as attractive as possible and do what you are told.
        We will handle the rest.

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      • Neecy
        A womans job is to stay as attractive as possible and do as she is told.
        Men could then handle the rest.

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  40. As I’ve stated before in other ways: a civilization will always break apart. Why? Simple: civilization is based on conscious beta male cooperation and sacrifice (sexual, bodily, and otherwise) to provide food, shelter, protection, and sexual partners to the vast majority of beta males, their wife (or wives), and offspring. However, at a certain point the civilization becomes so successful and providing these things that freeloaders—women, fags, and non-betas—begin to milk the system and take shortcuts. Soon, the average beta male is shunned, since the parasites think they do not need him. Shunned, he refuses his duty to sacrifice and protect; he either goes barbaric, parasitic himself, or else withdraws and contemplates his society’s ruin. When the barbarians are at the gate–and they always come, whether from within or from without, the women, the faggots, the parasites all scream “Save us!”

    And the beta whispers: “No.”

    –End scene, end civilization– (thank you, Watchmen)

    The more I consider civilization, the more I believe in God. Only God could have instilled in man the evolutionary jump/will to be able to recognize his savagery and subdue it for something better. No other animal has come close, and no idea is more unnatural: to resist an impulse consciously is not natural, and no animal does it. But man has learned to–from somewhere beyond him.

    Except this world is the devils; and the devil delights in savagery. SO God’s kingdom can never come on this earth by human hands, and the latter always disintegrates into the dust,

    Rape!

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    • There are studies showing prayed for patients and unprayed for patients died at the same rate after heart surgery.
      The less delusions one has, the better.

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      • You don’t understand God’s Plan and the times we are in…

        Man, at Satan’s behest and in his footpath, challenged God and told Him “we can be like you and know good and evil for ourselves… we don’t need you.”

        The past six-some-odd millennia have been Man’s opportunity to prove that boast… God has allowed this relatively free reign of Man and Satan on the planet so that, come the Judgment, no one can RIGHTFULLY claim that the trial period did not suffice.

        C. S. Lewis described Christians (and I paraphrase from memory) as underground combatants fighting a guerrilla war for a temporarily absent landlord.

        The more education (and the less snark) one has, the better.

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      • Greg,
        In all due respect and out of curiosity I would like to know how you’ve blended the dark knowledge with your faith. If you’d rather not discuss it that’s fine by me.

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      • I’ve mentioned in previous threads that I find a lot of this so-called “game” something that I never seemed to need during my formative years and beyond in order to get laid.

        And some of the dancing monkey field reports posted here just make me shake mah haid, but that’s another story for another day.

        I’m not bragging about being a “natural alpha” or anything like that… I just never had trouble getting girls… so some of the gyrations and (to be honest) jive talk that seems to be used today just doesn’t register with my personal ethos of what I consider manhood and proper interaction between the sexes.

        All my life, the sort of girls I see in these videos and reports, with too much make-up and too little scruples, never put the hook in me… even though some of you guys obviously think they’re hot.

        The girls I felt were 8’s or thereabouts were more of the “down-home” types, in both freshness of looks and sincerity of attitude… and those that did things like shit-test and such pretty much disqualified themselves from my sphere of contact.

        Anyway, that’s the Cliff Notes version of why there’s nothing to reconcile between my faith and the “dark triad” techniques… since you asked.

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      • If I may chime in?

        *chime*

        It is not “dark knowledge” that produces the conflict, it is the means it is used for that creates internal conflict. Greg doesn’t have that problem because he knows what his purpose is.

        Most guys don’t, and find “poolside” to be in direct conflict with having purpose in any way different from a ni66ers.

        How can you kill a n166er and be a n166er at the same time?

        This is the source of the confusion.

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      • Ah, the inimitable thwack comes through with a salient observation… these occasional lapses into the (ahem) lighter side of his being almost make it worthwhile putting up with race baits.

        Almost. 😉

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      • grinner

        There are studies showing prayed for patients and unprayed for patients died at the same rate after heart surgery.
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        God is not a mechanism.

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      • Prayer, boy, is not about want you want, or about wish fulfillment. Prayer is about thinking about a being more powerful than yourself, and to accept HIs Plan, whether it pleases you or not. It a very hard part of faith.

        The most important lines of the famous prayer is: Thy will be done.

        If you’re going to go on some evangelical atheistic rant about how prayer didn’t keep X alive or give Y a healthy body or keep Z from being tortured, and therfore is bunk, then you’ve missed the point and are a low-IQ, small-minded pissant–in other words, the typical modern lefty atheistkult member. Go back to worshiping Obama and sucking nigger cock and joining kimmy boy in special ed.

        Rape!

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  41. For the group, here is a neg that I started using that you can use during text game or if a woman is putting up resistance cuz she dont know you or has a kid at home… “yeah…you guys arent worth going to prison over” if its just her say, “yeah, you’re not worth going to prison over” then after that you can throw in a few sodomy references, such as a future huge black cellmate. it seems to work. and i find it funny.

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  42. […] A new study provides further confirmation of the CH view of women’s sexual nature.  […]

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  43. Beta Teacher Gets Cuckolded, Then Fired For It

    http://www.slate.com/articles/life/education/2013/12/job_protection_for_adjuncts_stefan_veldhuis_adjunct_at_chaffey_college_fired.html

    You may have seen this Slate story ostensibly about adjunct profs’ lack of tenure, but the backstory is actually that the fired prof was _probably_ shitcanned because he was being cuckolded.:

    The story states that
    1) Former adjunct professor Stefan Veldhuis is currently a “single dad.”

    2) Stefan Veldhuis reported “another employee to Chaffey human resources, accusing her of engaging in sexual acts with a former staff member on campus” and,vaguely,adds that “he had personal reasons to be upset at the employee.”

    3) “several months later, Chaffey (College) investigated whether Veldhuis had had a sexual relationship with a former student named Erin Burson. Burson, who in emails readily acknowledges a platonic friendship with Veldhuis based on their attendance at the same evangelical church, complained about the investigation to HR…”

    4) “The administration canceled their meeting hours before she was supposed to come in on Nov. 27—and the same day, Veldhuis was axed.”

    Now, if you Google Stefan Veldhuis marriage, you will see that this “single dad” was SUPPOSED to get married on 2/23/13, to someone whose name matches that of “another employee” (secretary) at Chaffey.

    We can surmise that this marriage did not occur or was extremely brief since Slate describes him as currently single.

    Did his ex-fiancee admit to infidelities during a fight? Did she not know how to password protect her Obamaphone and leave some salacious texts out in the open?

    And then, when this professor, crushed by the thought of the love of his life getting rogered by another man in all the places he has to walk by at work, lashes out in righteous indignation and reports her indiscretions on public property to HR, she turns the tables on him with some BS allegation, and HE gets fired?

    That’s the life of a beta.

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    • Thanks for exposing this story, ATC.

      Don’t miss a big motivation for his persecution, in the first few words: “Stefan Veldhuis, a devoutly Christian …”

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    • i bang the current in the AM only because that’s when i like it. get her all worked up and then go to sleep….drives her crazy. then, when i do feel like some evening action, its a reward for her…. im using access to sex on my schedule as a reward.

      its a great way to ensure both a wake up chubbie AND a blowie.

      flip ur script

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    • I had a juicy steak.

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  44. on December 6, 2013 at 5:26 am FuriousFerret

    The article should have been titled:

    ‘When Women Stop Pretending to Love Beta Males’

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  45. Terrible news: Paul Walker died!

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  46. […] Pussboys who cheerlead for a female-led promiscuous feminist future have a blind spot regarding any … […]

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  47. on December 6, 2013 at 9:05 am Hugh G. Rection

    So Nelson Mandela kicked the bucket. One of the few black guys for whom prison worked. He never re-offended.

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  48. […] A new study provides further confirmation of the CH view of women’s sexual nature. Executive summary: women screw around with charming cads and ignore beta providers when their financial needs are met by the state or by a rich daddy, and their emotional needs are met by a supportive culture that condones the removal of all restrictions on female sexuality. https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/when-women-stop-loving-beta-males/ […]

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  49. Or think about what a world of financially and sexually freed women pursuing an “alpha fux betas chucked” strategy looks like. Yeah, if Sub-Saharan Africa leapt to mind, you’re on the right track. A feminist utopia is not far removed in practice from the worst shit pits in the world.

    -“subsahara Africa” – a feminist utopia ?????? right………

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  50. So Nelson Mandela kicked the bucket. One of the few black guys for whom prison worked. He never re-offended.

    -Mandela – ultimate alpha.

    you imprison me then i will imprison you…..

    talk to any white in South Africa…….. cowered with head down … as it should be…. Instantaneously transformed into second class citizens in their supposed own country… its only a matter of time before they are dealt with properly…..a “final solution” so to speak..

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    • It requires a certain level of inteligence to run an extermination outfit. An intelligence level that the “mandingo bucks” evolutionary scenario that played out in subsaharan human sub-populace did not yield.

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    • As to your “final solution”, I’m guessing the next time mean ol’ rayciss YT won’t be dumb enough to house and feed (and even go so far as to teach his mother tongue!) to his enemy for some 10 thousand days before then… of all things… turning him loose.

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      • The “New South Africa” was theater, nothing changed, whitey is still in charge and making big money off the nigs.

        Mandela shared the Nobel Peace Prize with the white man who jailed him.

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  51. This is an interesting study, and I wonder if it could be applied to game: http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/after-touching-mens-underwear-women.html

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  52. Women never love betas. They tolerate them for support, ie money.

    I fuck beta’s wives. Heck, my ex slut used to strap on fuck beta’s wives before I fucked them while she sat on their faces. They’re whores, and if you treat like whores they respond appropriately.

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  53. Am I the only one who thinks this guy is going to be murdered because of what he says about black people?

    I care about black people, but no where near enough to risk my life for them.

    Do you think he is being paided to do this?

    If so, how much would they need to pay you to risk your life to help black people?

    BTW– his daughter is at risk too; just when you think black people have reached the limits of savagery,we come up with something more diabolical.

    (((shakin my head)))

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    • This man is a stud. “She died doing what she loved.”

      Chicks dig jerks? Black chicks industrial-power-shovel jerks. Their endless progeny with the worst of the black community is a Darwinian accelerent on black pathologies, which are intolerable to begin with.

      This “tjsotomayor” is obviously a good man who has regard for Western civilization. I grew up with and know a number of similarly sensitive and sensible blacks. They make it hard to be a pure White Nationalist. Unfortunately, total separatism is the only way whites can survive.

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      • DavidB

        Unfortunately, total separatism is the only way whites can survive.
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        How separate is separate?

        If all the black people go back to Africa, what about the air? Do we hafta breath separate air?

        “total separatism” means you cannot even have a word to describe Africa or black people; no more satellites going over Africa, no more National Geographic specials…

        Oh and I almost forgot, all the ni66as in the zoo get sent home and erased from YOUR memory too, lions, giraffes, rhinos…

        Matter of fact, if its black and ugly, its got to go; you got any nightmares?

        You said total separation.

        Its gotta be like the Planet of the Apes movie where all the Apes know about the “forbidden zone” is that its forbidden.

        Only a few Apes knew the real reason why:

        The Forbidden Zone in the Planet of the Apes movie series is the barren, lifeless area declared off-limits to all apes. While most apes do not know the precise reasons why the area is forbidden, it is generally understood to be a wasteland, one fit only for humans, outlaws, and fools. According to the secret scrolls available only to the senior orangutan clergy, the Forbidden Zone “was once a paradise” and humans “made a desert out of it”[29] as the result of a nuclear war which occurs off-screen in-between Conquest of the Planet of the Apes and Battle for the Planet of the Apes.[30] To the apes’ general public, however, the Forbidden Zone is forbidden simply because their ancient Lawgiver forbade it

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  54. Modern day feminism and modern women are not women-they are serfs to the coming New World Order I don’t even think about most of these modern women they are nothing but entitled, money hungry sluts.

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  55. A very common female paradigm I see in dating is the restless divorcee who ditched her husband because she wanted to date and get laid with new guys — sometimes that guy has been myself.

    They are one of the 10 Types of Single Women Over 30. With CH’s kind permission:

    http://www.lightlybraisedturnip.com/10-types-single-women-over-30/

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  56. on December 11, 2013 at 11:56 am Victory or Death

    Women really do not have “independence,” instead, it is the illusion of independence. The truth is that women are dependent on the state and the economy, and indirectly dependent of men. If the state or the economy stop working correctly, women will lose their “independence”

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    • Female economic independence really means either: state employment, state subsidised employment, make-work jobs, or industries that have grown out of the growing disposable income of women extracted from male resources…

      In the UK at least, I’ve never known a well-paid women to be adding anything of true economic value to our economy.

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  57. This site is merely a bunch of faggots congregating over the fact that they can’t get laid. Why should I take it seriously?

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    • “This site is merely a bunch of faggots congregating over the fact that they can’t get laid. Why should I take it seriously?”

      Isn’t that the internet and all activism in general? At the very least, this site shows you how to deal with the reality of the situation. Men who ignore these concepts do so at their own peril.

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