Porn Is A Portent Of Sexbotopia

Sexbots. The very word sends chills down the spines of low sexual market value women. They fear competition or, worse, replacement. Even hot babes will suffer blowback from widespread use by men of realistic sexbots; the pool of desirable men remaining in the human mating market will have shrunk in proportion to the women who have the looks to snag them. Expect the “Russian Phenomenon” to sweep across the American landscape: ugly, irresponsible drunkards inexplicably snagging trophy hot blonde bombshells.

Sexbots that can simulate real women are still one silicone foot in the fantasy world, but the tech is rapidly progressing. Whoever said necessity is the mother of invention was wrong; the male sex drive is the mother of invention. (Though, I suppose you could argue that satisfying the male sex drive IS necessity.) So, for now, the agog crowd can rest easy that no major sexbot invasion is about to storm our shores.

But, interestingly, we can get a preview of what a sexbot-serviced future world will look like by turning our jaundiced eye and drained dicks to the effects that porn is having on the 21st Century man.

If it is true (and I happen to believe that it is) that modern porn — ubiquitous, on-demand, high definition, free hardcore porn — is a supernormal stimuli the likes of which have never been experienced by men at any point in human history until now, then we can make a reasonable leap of logic from our current porn-saturated world to a world full of sexbots, and what the toll will be on society. Sexbots will take supernormal stimuli into uncharted territory; dopamine receptors may very well explode aneurytically.

A reader starts us off on the speculation:

Is porn turning men into lazy bums? Might explain the effects of supernormal stimuli. Money won’t much help them get a girl, the women in porn are hotter than anything they could get in the real world anyway, and it seems to have bad effects on motivation overall. Why should men do anything?  Not the recipe for a healthy society.

Assuming porn is making men lazy, apathetic and demotivated, imagine what life-like sexbots who resemble Emma Stone will do to men! I can easily foresee a future where masses of betas and omegas become shut-ins, telecommuting for their sustenance while getting their lust (and mavbe love; have you seen bronies?) needs met by artificial babes who, on the internal male balance sheet, are a more fulfilling choice of sexual partner than the chubby human female 4s and 5s with tankgrrl attitude they could get in the flesh. And with a lot less effort and shit tests.

Men’s happiness doesn’t seem to have gone down however. Though I have heard that there is a bifurcation in male happiness with lower class males losing ground while upper/upper middle class men staying the same or getting happier.  But I’d have to confirm that.

Are lazy, apathetic, demotivated men unhappy? Surveys show women are the ones getting unhappier the deeper we get into the feminist and sexual revolutions. If lower SMV men are getting their dopamine fix via porn, their overall level of happiness might not budge. The unhappiness flowing from low status would be countered by the happiness from orgasmic fulfillment and fooling the id receptors that a high quality mate has been successfully courted.

Whatever the consequence for men’s happiness, it’s a plausible hypothesis that widely available hardcore porn is both a bad omen for the maintenance of civilization and a net plus for rape and molestation rates, which go down with the rise of porn use.

If porn is having this presumed deleterious effect on men’s libidos and passions, sexbots will intensify that (possibly dysgenic) trend a thousandfold. Maybe sexbots will become a form of Danegeld, where the shrinking elite utilize them to pacify the massed lower classes with robotic intimacy. Or maybe sexbots will free the r-selection id fully from its cage, as millions of sexually sated betas, their needs met and their urgency diluted, hit the bars and clubs spitting game like champions of the Aloofness Olympics, on women who have found themselves in competition not only with other women, but with robot women. (Cue “Don’t Date a Robot!” Futurama vid.)

Alternatively, in horrified response to the swarm of sexual release outlets hijacking the minds of men, strict religious orders may institute draconian rules to shield their members from the onslaught; coupled with their higher birth rates, in a few generations we could see a much more God-fearing Western world, and these days of secular miracle and wonder will seem then a distant nightmare concocted in the heads of perverse dystopian writers.

Some free thinkers may ask, “What’s the equivalent of modern supernormal stimuli for women? What dopaminergic threats hijack the pleasure centers of women’s brains and render them incompatible civilizational partners and incorrigible entitled mating prospects?”

Answer: 50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.

These are the fantasy and orgasmic outlets for women. Women’s supernormal stimuli differs from men’s in form only; the function is EXACTLY the same: to provide deep, pleasurable limbic massages that can’t be had in the dull, boring, uninspiring real world human sexual market. And the effects on women’s spirits, I will argue, are actually WORSE for society than those effects caused by porn on men’s willingness to brace the support beams of civilization. For a woman whose senses are in thrall to the sexual delights of  fictional billionaire sadists, the ego uplifts of beta male supplicating social media, the instant gratification of carby calories, and the fantasy worldview reinforcing messages of gay and feminist-dominated trash TV, is a woman who is too obese, too self-absorbed and too demanding to make the sacrifices required of her to please a husband and raise a family of more than 0.5 kids.

Sexbots will only have an indirect effect on women, for women are by nature less visual creatures than men, and won’t be drawn to the corporeal pleasures offered by rudimentary AI Jude Law model #3,465. What sexbots will do is widen the already growing chasm between the sexes, until only the fittest of the fit — and fitness is whatever gets one’s genes to the next generation, whether beneficial to civilization or not — can successfully leap across it to woo a human companion in the way that our genetic overlord intended.





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  1. It’s a robogasm botpocalypse!

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  2. blowjob machine are already here

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  3. “Answer: 50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.”

    You forgot cats.

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    • on July 18, 2012 at 2:46 pm ThatNorwegianGuy

      You beat me to it!

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    • Cats used to be practical. They would eat mice, which carried diseases.

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    • https://play.google.com/store?hl=en&tab=w8

      Google Play store, top 5 books :

      Fifty Shades of Grey
      Fifty Shades Darker
      Fifty Shades Freed
      Bared to You : A Crossfire Novel
      The Secret Diary of a Sex Addict

      There’s a a potential goldrush in fully understanding the hamster. Invest in anything which simulates the fantasy world in which women wish to live and your money will be safe.

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      • The Fifty Shades phenomenon is a cultural antifeminist watershed moment. I liken it to the Britney Spears transformation of the culture at the turn of the millennium, where suddenly it was okay to tart-up school girls and openly lust after them. Since Spears, the word “teen” has become synonymous with sex, and not a decade later, 14-year-olds in Algebra Class are dressing like Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver without the connotations of “streetwalker.”

        Same with Fifty Shades. Those novels have unleashed the female id just as surely as Spears unleashed the male, publicly validating the secret urge in women to be dominated against the mores of a dying age. Game sites are ahead of this curve, but ten years from now, the cultural cues of female submissiveness will be as familiar to us as school-tart chic is now, whether or not they are still officially discouraged. When I say plaid skirt, what do you think of?

        Matt

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  4. on July 18, 2012 at 12:47 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    I’m not sure if sexbots will catch on only because of the shame factor. You’d have to order one or go out and buy one and put it someplace where people could theoretically see it. Unlike women, who can get a sexual change out of men by flaunting their vibrators, male sex toys in any form aren’t sexy to anyone and just say “loser.”

    The reason online porn has caught on is its convenience — it’s easy to find and easy to get rid of. Hence, no one ever has to know what you’re up to, but with a sexbot there is a chance they might.

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    • on July 18, 2012 at 12:59 pm omegamale316

      What about when sexbot technology advances to the point where they are indistinguishable from human females?

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      • The masses of tech-oriented betas and omegas are striving mightily to make this a reality. Well, the Japanese ones, anyway. My money says it’ll be here well before my sexual function fades away.

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    • on July 18, 2012 at 2:33 pm Wrecked 'Em

      They’ll be like mopeds and fat chicks… fun to ride until your friends see you on one.

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    • a) does anybody do sexual shame anymore? drunken sluts passed out on the high street don’t
      b) sell me one as a housekeeper, the extra bits can stay in the cupboard til quality time o’clock

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      • Housemaid! That is a clever dodge. But will it work when they
        are mass-produced?

        Thor

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      • “I totally need 6 of them. Of all different makes, yes.”

        For my part though, I doubt there will be much change from now. as our host has stated, the supranormal stimuli are already here, and only the groups that protect themselves from it(on the k-selection side of the fence) will be there to check the hordes of r-selected individuals that this will give rise to, atleast until a catastrophic malthusian dieback.

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      • on July 19, 2012 at 11:58 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Just1X: a) does anybody do sexual shame anymore? drunken sluts passed out on the high street don’t

        Unfortunately, yes. Sexual shame is now reserved for men. Women’s studies departments have been around for 40 years and in that time they’ve disseminated to the public the idea that male sexuality is harmful and shameful while female sexuality should be embraced.

        This is *why* you have the drunken sluts on the street. And why when men have dalliances with such sluts, they’re the ones that can be charged with rape, but the women are not held accountable for their behavior. The legal system is a good bellweather for what a society believes, and this is where we are now (go to the False Rape Society page if you want more).

        You have a good point about the housekeeper, though.

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    • If they got good enough, I could see even married men with a harem of them. Teenagers will be sneaking a test drive with Dad’s sexbot. Women will become effectively obsolete given sexbots combined with incubation facilities to hatch the next generation. I think by the time we have a high quality sexbot, we will be genetically engineering children and hatching them in incubation facilities as in Brave New World. It’s not very far off either. You will see them commonplace in less than 50 years. Lack of natural breeding will trigger their widespread use. Then, a few men would still get all the human tail and the women would share these men. Most men, given a harem of beautiful, trouble free robot women, would prefer this arrangement to lots of human women and wouldn’t care. This would be especially so if a young man got a job that paid well enough to get several different models and makes. It would be so revolutionary, women would oulaw sexbots.

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      • Add to the mix cloning. And you don’t have to wait for gestation vats. Poor third world women would happily agree to be host mothers to clones
        or in vitro babies for a few thousand dollars. This might be pro-genic, maybe. The devil is in the details.

        Thor

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      • Brave New World is so much better than the socio-reproductive mess we have today. If you compare them with a rational mind, the present-day real world will turn out the dystopia.

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      • If a robot could(and was willing to) cook, clean, and fuck, it would have a leg up on most women. This would perhaps bring back finishing schools, and mothers would tell their daughters, “look, if you want to land a husband, you need to be able to cook, clean, fuck, and hold a conversation at least as well as a robot, or your only choices will be bag lady, cat lady, or you’ll have to work for a living.”

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      • After 100 years, there’d be no white people left in America, and the smart geeks who help the machinery of society to run would’ve died off because they preferred the bots to mating with real women.

        There would only be black people scurrying around a landscape that looks like a pile of bricks on the moon or Mogadishu.

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    • I guarantee you they will allow you to order it discreetly online.

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    • This isn’t any worse for “civilization” than a big war that skewers the female to male ratio, providing the surviving males with something to work, build and live for as women scramble to compete with the oversupply at all levels. CH overdoes it with his “I’ll be pool-side” routine in this case, which only encourages beta social conservatives to gloat about how great it is that they’re married now to a whale (its for the children you see). In this case, feminism will be doomed by increased availability of the rapidly improving and increasingly sexy bots. Did you see some of the Youtube videos like “Candy Girls”? Dooming feminism helps civilization.

      Skewering the female to male ratio is always a good thing.

      Civilization breaks down when the opposite happens.

      Think about it. China and the Muslim world are screwed because the men aren’t getting laid much or happily.

      Did you all see the “Guys and Dolls” YouTube video that’s 48 minutes long?

      Near the end, this 48 year old guy has a new girlfriend near his own age. She’s a whale and the dialogue is about whether she will reject him for having 8 life-like robots that all look like 18 year olds and these bots (still without the ability to talk but wait until next year’s models) apparently feel like the real thing to him.

      The video ends with the news that the whale couldn’t compete with the bots in the end.

      That’s good news. Civilization didn’t necessarily need her genes and she wasn’t fertile anymore anyway. Why wouldn’t a man that age, if he’s rationalized that he can’t get a more fertile younger human woman, go for a bot instead of resolving to have bad sex the rest of his life in exchange for companionship that isn’t really mutually exclusive.

      You can bet the feminists will do everything they can to legislate how old these bots will “look like”. Forget about them looking fertile. That will be legislated away first.

      Anything that is bad for feminism is good for civilization. Carry on with technology and skewer the perceived female to male ratios.

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    • Why would ordering a sexbot from Amazon be any different than any other Internet shopping for sex toys? The big brown box shows up just like any other.

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    • Shame? I could care less if someone knew I was dating a robot. I was ashamed I let a seven year relationship with a cold manipulative woman continue because I was such a pussy. I’d rather date a robot that can satisfy me then be with one that will tell me what I want, nay need, is selfish and demoralizing. Well, I’m sorry if loving big breasts and wanting to motorboat them is demoralizing, damnit!

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  5. “…in a few generations we could see a much more God-fearing Western world, and these days of secular miracle and wonder will seem then a distant nightmare concocted in the heads of perverse dystopian writers.”

    Sounds like the better world created by Theodore Judson in “Fitzpatrick’s War” as opposed to any “Brave New World”.

    If it meant a world that banishes Metrosexuals, Jessica Valenti, and Andrea Dworkin, I would have gladly thrown Stephen Hawking and Carl Sagan under the bus.

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  6. If it breaks the worsening epidemic of obesity among young women, then I’d be all for it.

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    • Oh dear. CH was just joking when writing those hilarious lines (Sexbots.The very word sends chills down the spines of low sexual market value women. They fear competition or, worse, replacement.)

      Women don’t really fear that porn or sexbots are any kind of competition. They are not real. We’re just really disappointed that so many guys are unable to grow up and face the reality. A guy who is addicted to porn has very low SMV. If he’s unable to fall in love with a real woman, he’s useless.
      Are men afraid of Christian Gray?

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  7. Off topic – but does anyone know what happened to the OneSTDV blog? It is gone and the last post was in late June.

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  8. “Some free thinkers may ask, “What’s the equivalent of modern supernormal stimuli for women? What dopaminergic threats hijack the pleasure centers of women’s brains and render them incompatible civilizational partners and incorrigible entitled mating prospects?”

    Answer: 50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.”

    You should add Chateau Heartiste to this list … I fucked up my brain with this. Can’t believe I’m that stupid. I’m probably the most pathetic and retarded person posting here … Making a fool of myself. So I can understand those guys who are addicted to porn … It’s difficult when you hate the real world. Porn and refined carbs are better than constant feelings of shame and worthlessness. It’s not good in the long run though. But who cares.

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    • One more indication that the truth “fuck[s] up [the female] brain.”

      Truth is a dangerous element that must be buffered from the female psyche. It’s like staring straight into the sun.

      You are addicted to the porn-for-girls element of this site. One slut who posted in a flurry here a few weeks ago admitted that just being around this atmosphere got her wet. But it’s important to note that this is an ancillary effect to brazen truth-telling in a world of “pretty lies.” You are so plumped up with feminist bullshit that to hear the truth you know in your heart gets that heart racing.

      Truth-telling is a bracing tonic that the modern woman is not prepared for and, indeed, a phenomenon the weaker sex is not good at dealing with by nature. To witness it spoken plainly, and darkly — and at times in your case, personally — is to be in the thrall of an all-encompassing power, and that a girl can get addicted to. Especially because she has been told that such power doesn’t exist anymore.

      Matt

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  9. When sexbots become available on the marketplace, I expect feminists and tradcons will have utter hysterics and do everything in their power to ban them rather than address the issue of why men would rather have a sexbot than a modern feminist woman.

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  10. on July 18, 2012 at 1:12 pm collapseofman

    You ignore the possibility that as society moves ever farther from a 1:1 mate ratio, low SMV women will be perfectly content teaming up with their more attractive counterparts as concubines to the elite alphas, and that sexbots will only be a coping mechanism for the disenfranchised 80% of men left behind in the hypergamous restructuring. Why would unattractive women be afraid at all?

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    • Leaders need followers. (Pick your billionaire) might have had vision but he wouldn’t have built a huge empire if he didn’t have a bunch of talented followers doing a lot of the grunt work. If those grunts can go out and get laid with sex dolls, there are going to be a lot less grunts willing to do the work and there will be stagnation. That’s assuming all the rules and regulations the government loves to impose “for the children” don’t stifle innovation first.

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    • Even alphas would rather fuck a sexbot that a lardass. Ugly women chances of landing a male go from 5 to 0 %. Of course they are scared, but they are powerless to stop it, I mean what could they do? Convince men with their “inner charm” to rule a ban on sexbots? They are screwed.

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      • Alpha’s don’t fuck lardasses though, and not every woman is a lardass, so alphas will still be fine through and through 🙂

        Unless disenfranchised betas start revolting and try to kill off all of the men who have taken “their women”

        It’s funny and indicative of the beta male to claim possession of a woman who isn’t even his to begin with.

        If the riots in London have been any indication, betas are beginning to protest.

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    • This scenario might hold true for average-looking chicks, but most alphas have standards. Fuglies and fatties need not apply.

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  11. Yourbrainonporn.com

    Thousands of guys have recovered from that porn addiction. The results are amazing. One thing that is common in all the write ups is all of them say that women start noticing them and vice versa. I believe that

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  12. A guy fucking around with a sex bot / toy knows that it is a toy. A girl with 50 online profiles that get 10,000 hits a day knows that there are real men on the other side.

    The girl equivalent of a sexbot is a spam bot that blasts all of her online accounts with cliche beta phrases

    *bleep* “You are so hot! Go girl!”
    *bleep* “Wow! we don’t deserve you!”
    *bleep* “Your true self inner spirit is beautiful and profound.”
    *bleep* “The stars will align for you.”


    ..
    .

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    • Who cares if they are real men or not. If computer intelligence will one day surpass ours, then I care nothing for the supposed attention men give me today. Most of it is fake and aimed at getting the goods with minimal investment. At best you will get a bf for a few years, at worst an STD. I won’t blame guys in the future for picking a sexbot over a real girl. Some girls have no idea on how not to be manipulative selfish tramps. If I were a man I wouldn’t choose them, so why should a real man? Some people bring nothing to a relationship, this technology will be a godsend to them. And there is no shame in substituting real, women have been doing that since the dildo was invented. So all I am hearing now from guys here are egocentric stigmas on why not to get a sexbot or how much of a loser you are if you do. How many loser girls do you know who use a dildo?

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  13. “50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.”

    A cheap form of life support that pales in contrast to actual living. The Vanilla Sky option.

    *btw, glad to see that even if you are indeed trapped under a bookcase as I afeard at least you are still able to type 🙂

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    • “A cheap form of life support that pales in contrast to actual living.”

      I don’t agree. There are so many people who hate their lives and who are unable to solve their problems or can’t connect with other people. It’s very comfortable if you have an addiction to make you feel less miserable. Not everyone knows how to live and how to be happy.

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    • He’s on vacation. These are scheduled automatic posts.

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  14. Imagine the societal soul-searching when the most sought-after sexbots look 14 years old or younger.

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    • Why would 14 or younger looking sexbots be the most sought after? I doubt pedos make up the majority in society. Maybe you’re projecting yourself onto the majority of society?

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      • Or maybe you’re a cougar chaser. It’s because youth is sexy, idiot.

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      • Based on the search terms that lead people to my web site, which mentions the word “underage” three times in 250 posts, I think if someone had the one legal child porn site in the world it would be more popular than google.

        Not saying most guys are pedos, but a whole fucking bunch of them are 10% pedo, and underage ass is the one thing you cannot buy or cajole your way into without serious consequences. If you’re gonna buy a fuckbot anyway, why not the one that scratches the itch you can’t get scratched anywhere else.

        At the very least, the top seller will be just on the threshold of age legality.

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      • http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Hebephilia

        “Hebephilia:
        Hebephilia refers to an adult’s sexual preference for pubescent youths; the term was introduced by Glueck (1955). It differs from ephebophilia, which refers to the erotic interest in individuals in mid- to late adolescence, and from pedophilia, which refers to the erotic interest in prepubescent children. While individuals with a sexual preference for adults (i.e., teleiophiles ) may have some sexual interest in pubescent-aged individuals, the term hebephilia is reserved for those who prefer pubescent-aged individuals over adults. ”

        My guess is sexbots would mimic females aged 15-19 aka ephebophilia.

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      • In any case, the inside of the fuckbot store will look like a field hockey locker room. Only question is whether it’s varsity or JV.

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      • on July 18, 2012 at 6:21 pm omegamale316

        “Check your teleio privilege” will be the new meme

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      • I’m not a pedo, I’m just frugal! Child-size dolls cost less (100 lbs of good-quality silicone isn’t cheap), and they take up less closet space.

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      • on July 18, 2012 at 2:02 pm Days of Broken Arrows

        Please learn to properly use the English language.

        “Pedophilia” is defined as being attracted to a child with no secondary sex characteristics. 14-year-old girls have such characteristics and just a few generations ago were being married off.

        The correct term for a girl 16 or younger is “underage” and looking at a fully-developed under age female does not constitute “pedophilia.” The reason pedophilia hysteria developed is because aging Baby Boomer females hitting the wall needed to shame men into not looking at younger women. Thus we had the bizarre spectacle of certain women saying Bill Clinton had gotten involved with “a 23-year-old child” when he had his affair.

        Don’t play into the feminists hands by helping them pervert the language. He who controls language controls thought.

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      • How do feminists feel about the term “sweet forbidden underage ass?”

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      • I know 14-year old girls were formerly married off, but no one is ever going to convince me that it’s ok to lust after them. Although I understand that 18 isn’t the magical age for girls becoming attractive, 18 is the minimum age that they should be able to make major decisions reguarding relationships. I understand finding them attractive, but I don’t think society should start to accept lusting after 14 year olds.

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      • Most girls that dont lose it in Jr. High, lose it at 15. If that tells you anything. Fifteen is basically the magic number for that; the mexicans had it right.

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      • 15 seems young to me. I found this study that says the average age for girls to lose their virginity is 17 years old. Same for males, actually. Granted, this study was run in 2002. Actually, it says hispanic girls don’t lose their virginity until 2002. But I believe that some do lose it at 15, but most of them have sex with other 15 year olds, or other guys in their high school. Look, I understand the finding younger women attractive thing, but I still think it shouldn’t become socially acceptable. I feel like there’s a line. I mean, that’s some guys’ daughter. A few years before, she probably had pigtails and was playing with dolls.

        https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:NRPeNSfb0e8J:www.newstrategist.com/productdetails/Sex.SamplePgs.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgc2piY6BxyCfS_7rYyWRy4claT20HTTAMj37yEUHodVb4wB3AMY1bndnfok-uBgTM7vgh1g9XgDXb6n0-Hhd-ovamvIxo-vsqMmuj2JMSBBi_7qhAdf2u1cgDUhw6LE33prkCr&sig=AHIEtbT29TLn9kTO55ts4ZGIY7S0hsZtOg

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      • I was refering to the quincinetta(sp im sure), the ceremony of a girl becoming a woman in mexican(maybe broader latin?) Culture. If she is no longer a girl, but a woman at 15, than 15 is your number.

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      • It’s perfectly ok to lust after them if they have tits and ass.
        What the fuck does a number have to do with the male mating algorithm?

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      • “:…but no one is ever going to convince me that it’s ok to lust after them”

        You thought it was OK to lust after them when you were young.

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      • on July 19, 2012 at 1:02 am Libertardian

        ‘“Pedophilia” is defined as being attracted to a child with no secondary sex characteristics.’

        In the feminazi dictionary, it’s defined as being any female younger or more attractive than whichever feminazi is using it.

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      • I run into women who think anything under 20 is pedophilia. They of course frame it as the exploitation of young girls. Drafting boys at 18 and asking them to charge a machine gun nest never seems to come up. I think I can all but guarantee that is the reason why 18 is the number. Its pretty hard for even this feminist dominated society to draft men into the army while also classifying 18 year old girls as helpless victims of patriarchy.

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      • on July 19, 2012 at 12:58 pm omegamale316

        I sadly believe within the next 50 years we will see it raised to 21 for any guy over 30

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      • I definitely understand your point about drafting boys at 18. Do you bring that up when women talk about the exploitation of young girls? Although to be fair the draft hasn’t been used since the 70s, which is around the time feminism took off. Boys have to register for the draft though, if that’s what you mean. I don’t know that I would consider it exploitation, but if you’re middle aged, dating a 19-year old strikes me as uncool. My father is in his mid-forties, and although he is approached by younger women, he doesn’t really engage. Most of his friends are like that too. Part of it is that he’s not really interested, but he also feels that he would be stealing her youth. My attitude is, if they are 18, and legally considered an adult, they should be able to make their own decisions. I’m not going to judge a 19-year old for deciding to be with an older man.

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      • Interesting how you define exploitation by the draft. That would be more comparable to forced prostitution since I believe no one forces 18 year old girls to walk off with older men. Perhaps the older men use slick advertising like see the world because they can bank roll a nice cruise…just like the navy. So you still don’t quite get the point.

        I will agree that women with middle aged men are probably not in her long term best interests. An average age gap of about 10 years is probably the most stable, so we are way off on the other direction with a rash of “mid-life crisis” which is really just the incompatibility of the reproductive careers of men and women at 40.

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      • You’re right about that. One of the Olsen girls has a new bf, Sarkozy, who is older than she and you should read the comments. Lolita, she’s his granddaughter , he’s a pedo etc And btw, the Olsen “girl” is a grown female of 26! And who really cares except for the aging unwanted and bitter females, if a 16yo girl is having sex with a boy of her own age or an older man? It’s all the same thing isn’t it?

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      • Honestly, its a open and shut case of biology. Why would 14 year olds have their period if they were not biologically ready for reproduction? Not advocating relations with a minor, but really its just common sense.

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      • We shouldn’t encourage them to have their periods until 18, or 21.

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      • Look what happened to “Carrie” when she had HER period!!!

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      • I’d put the limit at 14 years old. 13 is just weird, and a very small number of females develop secondary sexual characteristics by that age.

        Call me feminist brainwashed, but for my defense, I think that all girls should be married by 16. And 22 year-old spinsters should have a choice between prostitution and cats.

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      • Girls getting married by 16 was the norm throughout history, in all civilizations, and including ours until about 1900 or so. I guess people think that we’ve “evolved” beyond that. B.S. If that was the case, women in their 20s and even 30s would look as they did in their teens.

        In other words, on the obesity front:
        http://www.gallup.com/poll/155762/Americans-Concerns-Obesity-Soar-Surpass-Smoking.aspx

        My parents, who are almost 70, both fret about the explosion in fat young women they see around their town. Both were willing to cut women slack when they got into their 40s, but they found young women ballooning up to be appalling.

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      • I think that choice should be given to a jury. ‘Hot or Cats’

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      • Man, I’d actually watch that show.

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      • 14 years or younger? That crosses into ephebophilia. Wish people would stop mixing these two things up. I also happen to believe ephebophilia is linked with monogamy.

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    • Nothing would change. Most people already know that young teenagers are hot. And that it’s wrong (but also almost impossible) to have sex with them.

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    • What the fuck are you talking about you fucking pervert?

      Try between 16 and 18.

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  15. Im glad you mentioned the female equivalent and its effects. Realistic sexbots could completely change Game as we know it. Ive been wondering what would have to happen to bring down feminine entitlement, other than negging the ones you meet, and training the ones that are yours from childhood. Now i have an idea, the sexbot.

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  16. It wont be Sexbots or porn that upends the fem-centric reality. There’s a much more real and realizable threat to the feminine normative; reliable and ubiquitous male contraception, the Male Pill.

    The feminine imperative knows very well their gender power dynamic relies on women being in sole control of reproduction. Uniformly take this control away from them and you will see social upheaval like we’ve never known.

    The feminine fears this, which is why they will go to any extreme to legislate that men are never given this power.

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  17. on July 18, 2012 at 1:28 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    hey heratsistes!!! heartsitess!!!

    when womenz control culture

    porn prevails as dat is in da womenz nature porn is
    porn prevails in publishing as priscilla painton pyublishes tucker max butthexter sectriev taper of anal who rhymes iwth godlman sax
    porn prevails on da internet with empowered women
    while men only wathc porn
    women participate in it and perom it
    by their own volition
    and free will
    sashsa grey sasha grey would rather get 100 cockas in her butthole
    dan marry and serve a decent man zlzoozo
    dis is why da bankerz cenrtal nababkerds fund fmeinsismz
    because fmeinsim opposes th enoble exlated shakespeare zeus homer jefferson jesus moses mises
    and fmeinisnsm debases and deaches debauches da culture
    in da same way da banekrz debase and deucbauch da currency

    the biblical myths
    THE GRETA BOOKS FOR MENz
    speak to da exlated exlalted nature of da SOUL lzozlzozo
    raise us up from matter = mater = mother mother earth
    as zeus lives in da sky with his thunderbolts of JUSTICE
    while satan lives down bwelo
    commaningz womenz to spread der butthecheeks and ginaholes
    and objectify menz
    transform menz into mere wallets
    who must pay
    to watch sahsa grey get it in da buttholez
    whereas traditional christiainity
    teahces dat instead if serving butt tinglezzz

    sahsa greay must sfirst and foremost
    serve a moral code of honor and her husband
    and fmailiezz

    women in da workplace and owmenz on d aprontoube are two sieds of da same coin
    both serve da bernanke bootom bottom line bootm=butt sexthual over god and good lzozlzoz

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  18. Where do artificial wombs fit into the Sexbotopia?

    Also on the subject of Sexbots, would it not be simpler to start off by going down the Reverse-Cyborg route where only the brain is artificial (along with a few other non-visible / internal parts) while the rest of the body is more or less human (allowing the possibly for lower SMV males to become fathers) instead a lifeless stereotypical sexbot that needs charging?

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    • on July 18, 2012 at 6:24 pm omegamale316

      Whiny moralfags would whine about how that’s too close to “slavery”

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    • on July 24, 2012 at 11:12 pm Ed the Department Head

      Yes, I was thinking about something like this. One of these female supremacist “traditionalist” gals was saying on another site how she didn’t believe artificial wombs were possible and all this laughable shit about how important breast feeding is (in spite of all the women who don’t breasfeed now. Wouldn’t it be awesome to develop brainless female bodies that were operated by machines and then could be impregnated and carry children to turn in a real womb. Not much different then reproducing with a sizable portion of the US female population right now! 🙂

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  19. on July 18, 2012 at 1:30 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    hey heartsietz!!!

    i am reahcing da hearts of christians good chriatins christains!

    http://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/how-to-make-glenn-stantons-day/#comments

    if these keeps up i will soon open a church wherein butthext is not madaoadtory manadaorty but sevring godd and good is zllzlzozozoz

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  20. Heartiste, could you clarify your position on a few issues please? You say that large numbers of children born to single mothers are bad for society, but you also argue against marriage, even if you are planning on having children. So your position seems to be to cohabitate and raise children. But you are also aware that cohabitation is vastly more likely to lead to separation and single mothers than marriage is. So cohabitation seems like the path to single-motherhood which you deplore.

    You also say that you are not in favor of having children. But obviously society can not endure if there are no children. So is your position that others should have children, but they are suckers if they do it? Then we are back to society crumbling if people actually follow your advice. Is your recommendation to allow society to devolve into barbarism in pursuit of ones own pleasure, and then be rebuilt by those who don’t follow your advice? Thanks.

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  21. Hey, good article. I would like to ask about day game V.S. night game. Is handsomeness more relevant in day game?
    I ask that because I did a experiment. I used the same lines in the day and night, but being more aggressive and sexual at night. The clothes were alike, the body language the same and so on.
    My success rate was like 90% getting numbers at day game and 60% at night game. I just tried numbers at night so the experiment wouldn’t be compromised.
    So, the only thing I noticed that changed was my “handsomeness”, why? I think the smoky, dim lightened, loud clubs have an “equalizer” effect – everybody seem more equal, I mean uglies don’t seem so ugly and attractive people have their value lowered just a little perhaps. But the effect on ugly people is far bigger by my
    eye observation.
    I first came to this thinking “hey, there is girls here I hit on that I would never hit in my day game!” so I began to think about the dim light and smoky ambient that disguise the defects, the loud music witch cover ugly voices and the party clothes witch make people a little more sexier, not counting the makeup on girls.
    Me, as a handsome guy (I was invited several times for modeling) felt that the power witch emanes from my looks and voice is lowered at night and I have to trust my game much more and I have to take more “risks” in my game too to not lost a momentum with a girl.
    Btw, I’m a white brazilian living in Argentina and at least 30% of the girls here in Buenos Aires I hit on are foreigner, many american. Roosh said argentinian girls are more approachable at day, but I found this to be true with other nationalities too, including brazilians.
    Any thoughts?
    P.S.: sorry for any english error.

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    • So your number close success was 90% during the day and 60% during the evening. I’d guess it’s because women are more careful in the evening than during the day, i.e., a cool guy meets them at 2 p.m. in a coffee shop, versus at 11 p.m. in a sleazy bar where she can’t even hear you very well due to the loud noise, whom is she more likely to give her number to? Overall, I’d say you’re doing quite well.

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    • Most male mdels are gay so I can believe that 🙂

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    • I want your life asshole!!!!

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  22. Please write a book, Heartiste!

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  23. I hear a lot about 50 shades of grey. For those who’ve read it, is it really worth reading it when you’re a dude? I’m not really a bookworm, so I try to choose the few books that I read with extreme precautions.

    I’m no billionaire but I’m already a sadist son of a bitch in the bedroom, lots of ordering around, spanking, spitting and talking shit. For regular readers of this blog, it’s not a surprise that chicks love that kind of manhandling.

    I’m always interested in developing my skills, so is it likely that 50 shades would help, or is it just a successful chicklit novel written by a female who doesn’t know what she’s talking about.

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    • Dude, it’s porn for women, full stop. It’s not about the BDSM, it’s about the superman (rich, powerful, handsome, mysterious, and young) hitting on the plain, ordinary chick (the kinky sex is to set off the tingles of the myriad of women with rape fantasies). What hardcore porn is for you, 50SOG is for women.

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    • I’ve read two pages out of curiosity before I had to put it down.

      The utter lack of any talent in her writing will bore you to death.

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    • on July 19, 2012 at 1:15 pm My Name Is Jim

      I read the first book with your frame of mind, and no, it doesn’t help real doms at all. You want to hone your skills, stick to the stuff made for the purpose (Greenery Press etc). Or you might be thinking of reading it for ideas to help you conjure up scenes? 50 Shades doesn’t even help with that, the writing isn’t good enough. Sorry but it’s just crap, on real BDSM sites all they do is make fun of 50 Shades. It’s really bad.

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    • The fact that you’re not a bookworm or a billionaire is apparent. probably still a virgin like most of these PUA omegas 🙂

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      • Probably. Probably not.
        I suppose you can tell since you’re a wealthy sophisticated gentleman.. obviously.
        Thanks for your concern anyway 🙂

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  24. Computa loooove… lookin for my compuuuuu.. computa looove..
    Could it be your face i see, on my computer screen.? o.O

    Need a special girl
    To share in my computer world
    I NO LONGER NEED A STRATEGY
    THANKS TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY O.o

    Shooby doo bop shoo doo bop I wanna love you
    Shooby doo bop computer love
    Shooby doo bop shoo doo bop I wanna love you
    Shooby doo bop bop computa looove!

    Computa love, no thx!
    Real flesh and blood hot babes, OK!

    CH thanks for this awesome post!

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  25. xbox games coming soon?

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  26. I’m one of those males who became lazy and demotivated thanks to porn. Went from A student with bright future to basement-dwelling slob. I have about 2 Terabytes of the stuff, and I groom it like a bonsai. Heck, I even considered the idea of making it myself since I’m so much into it. It completely hijacked my mind.

    I make my living off the net, a good living at that, since I can afford the occasional escort on the side. I operate at ~30% of my full potential and I’m damn happy. I have money in the bank, roof over my head, food on my plate, dopamine fixes and not a care in the world.

    Sexbot? Not a second thought. Give me one of those and kiss my keister goodbye, flesh-women, escort or not.

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  27. The only practical use for an invention of mine is making sexbots lifelike. What do you think would happen if male sexbots could satisfy a womans every need?

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  28. The only thing that scares me about sexbots becoming more available, and even the default receiver of male sex acts in the near future, is that it would easily turn men into sociopaths incapable of experiencing intimacy (no, you don’t experience intimacy with a sexbot).

    Think about it- you start out your sexual activity on your 16th bday, not by learning about what feels good and what hurts while having sex with a woman, but just by doing whatever you want, for how long you want, with zero input from another person? Women get sore/tired/dry eventually, some positions can be painful/uncomfortable and there are times when she’s not available (on her period or is sick). How is a man who is used to seeing the female form as an object (literally, the life-like doll is an object) for the purposes of his pleasure going to deal with this when/if he actually attempts to date a flesh and blood woman?

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  29. You fuck a girl.

    You screw up, get LJBF.

    Then you cut ties with her.

    She eventually texts… asking where u been, whats up, are we still friends? You’ve ignored several of her messages since the LJBF. A poll: How would you play this.

    I’m aware theres no use pining for an LJBF, so spare me the wisdom of gaming other girls instead. Understood. Playing an LJBF amidst your harem is the question.

    When pressed about still being friends…i’ thought “BFF! Lol!” would be funny.
    Seems cheeky and dismissive to me.

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    • How would you play this

      Like this

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    • Just say “I’ve been busy”.

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    • her: are we still friends?
      you: are there still benefits?

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    • on July 19, 2012 at 12:48 am Days of Broken Arrows

      The BFF thing is clever, but sarcasm can often come across as bitterness. Sometimes no response is the best response, because it sets the imagination spinning, and that throws the power over to you. What I do is not return calls then if I bump into the woman I complain about the new woman I’m seeing.

      You may want to ask yourself if she has any nice looking friends you’d want to game. If not, there’s no reason to go back at all. This is the test I use. Fuckable friends = I’ll go back in.

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    • Proper response. “been busy. Stop by sometime.”

      If she asks “when?”, say “whenever.”

      She will not stop by, because she is not really your friend. She just wants to keep you in orbit. She likely texted because she is feeling fat, lonely, or whatever, and she wants a quick ego fix from you. Cock tease shit. So likely there is no point in wasting time on her.

      But on the 5% chance she does stop by, or you bump into her somewhere, your interaction should be mellow and low key–like talking to a guy friend of passing aquiaintance. No broad smiles, excited voice tones or hugs when you see her. Just, “Hey, whassup?” (chin nod)

      Remember, no physical displays of affection. If she initiates, make it clear you find that display awkward. Even joke about it with a cocky “hey, boundaries, lady, boundaries,” as you break the contact.

      Talk a minute about some bland topic. Then mention a chick’s name in passing when describing some great time you had at a recent party where this one crazy thing happened, etc. Then break off the interaction after a few minutes, because you have to get somewhere. Again, no hugs, no excitement in your voice or promises by you to keep in touch.

      She will walk away going “WTF?! That guy has absolutely no sexual interest in me!?” That will be some high octane hamster fuel for a woman who already had sex with you. No woman can accept that she is forgettable that way.

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    • Text her something like “Been busy. Having fun. No time.” No more information. Let her mind fill in the blank, and ignore her.

      What do you expect to get out of seeing her? If she isn’t on the list for sex – she’s a waste of your time, energy, resources, etc… Your time is a valuable commodity – she isn’t useful to you… Ditch her, and use the time for women you can still get into bed.

      Think of it like you are in business… She’s in debt up to her eyeballs, and not going to be able to place or pay-for anything she orders. So, why would you waste your time with her? She’s a dry well… Look elsewhere.

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    • on July 19, 2012 at 5:48 pm Rihanna Deserved It

      “Totes” (if she’s 25 or under)

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    • As someone who has done this successfully it depends on the girls ending opinion of your market value. If shes like ehhhh I would still fuck you in her head, your you were really good in bed etc it depends on the environment shes in. If shes one of those girls that drops people like a hacked table then you probably dont have a chance, just move on lest you catch onitis.

      If she has a bunch of dudes just better at you then your game (first know your game with this girl) then your just SOL.

      If you only have one or two guys to compete with and they are making mistakes you can get in at a worth it cost. Amplify withdrawl tease then left field followed by a grabass and a lookey loo. Its all a heist movie now! 😀

      Left fielding a girl is when she is SURE your there for the pussy, then some “random” event or adventure happens that takes the context of the night from interview to “real”. An example, there are a lot of bums where I live now. I took a girl to thai I was left fielding and saw a bum on the street, I asked the waiter for a box of pad thai to go while she was in the bathroom. When the waiter came back I paused, thought for a second walked out and gave him lunch. He said thanks I nodded and walked back inside. The left field is now you dont take credit for it, you poker face this event (I actually do this from time to time regardless of pussy because I lived on the street and knew that feel) say nothing more then “he was hungry” and move on.

      Then act like a horn dog for a bit, dial it down at the end of the night talk about some random shit this is important, you want to clear her priming banks of anything relating to you courting her for sex while leaving her with the drippy pussy juice in her panties.

      That way when the tension gets high in the next meeting, it was her idea. Bam your attractive again.

      Don’t forget to withdraw yourself after the first meeting. The disconnect thing works well. Personally I do the whole “I am busy and its complicated” is fine. You can get creative here but I haven’t had much better luck then with the truth there because I am mostly busy and its always complicated. 😛

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  30. The paragraph about the rise of religions are the money shot in this article. People too ‘lazy’ to work, sure as heck are too lazy to train to be warriors, something the children of high fertility cultures learn to be as a matter of necessity.

    For a glimpse of the intermediate future, look at Mogadishu in the 90s. That’s the blueprint for what happens when a critical mass of people start realizing they are being walked all over by utterly useless assholes whose death would have no discernible negative effect on most people.

    Then, after anywhere from a few decades to a few generations, look at Afghanistan; the most (only?) stable society over the past few milennia. High fertility; sufficiently so that functionally large societies can be built within the evolutionarily selected for context of kinship loyalties. And a culture of ‘if he ain’t a relative; shoot him, unless he presents a very darned good reason for you not to.’

    And for those sufficiently well indoctrinated to fall for the progtardian ‘but it’s different this time’, it isn’t. The citizens of Sodom and Gomorrah undoubtedly convinced themselves they were just as much superior in sophistication and refinement, compared to Afghan mountain men in their time as well. Until people with a predisposition akin to the latter simply decided to slay the idiots and take their stuff without any more ado.

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    • I’d take issue with the idea that Afghanistan is the only stable culture in the world. China has been China since well around 500 BC or so. Ditto India, more or less. Even Europe has not changed all THAT much culturally since say, the end of the Carolingian Empire(s).

      And the problem with being Afghanistan is that it depends on the mercy of strangers. Suppose say, China just decides to nuke the hell out of the place and kill everyone and take their mineral/oil resources? What’s to stop them?

      Yes sexy dominant men competing to be the best fighter or dancer or singer are incompatible with high technology. But having high technology allows you to nuke your enemies into oblivion, or “rods from God” or X-Ray Laser or whatever comes next. J. Robert Oppenheimer may have been as “soft” as your beta male cube dweller, but he was without question the deadliest man in WWII.

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      • The test of a civilization is not just how it handles adversity – but how it handles prosperity. People, families, societies are easily ruined by decadence and comfort – unless they posses some intrinsic wisdom, which prevents that fall – and that is the mark of a civilization.

        Hence I would be reluctant to call afghanistan a stable culture. It’s more like stable jungle right now.

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      • China today is very different than China 500 BC. Particularly as pertains to fertility, which is the metric above all metrics as far as inheriting the world goes.

        Sexy fighters, dancers or singers really have very little to do with anything. Large, tight knit extended families almost wantonly killing all competitors for resources while protecting each other is where the real action is at, once populations in an area approaches the area’s carrying capacity. You can dance and look cool all you want; it simply won’t make you bullet proof. And dead guys finish even behind omegas in the mating game.

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      • China 500 BC or so was Confucious and remains so in essence (with a Red coat of paint) today. Nor is fertility everything. The Aztecs were quite fertile, and got conquered by relatively low fertility Spaniards. You can have large, tight knit families ala say, Saddam’s Iraq controlling everything, but if you get up against an enemy that is technologically dominant you are dead meat. Ask Saddam. Or Darius after the technologically superior Greek Phalanx plus Macedonian cavalry annihilated the Persian armies.

        Western Europeans, and to a lesser extent the Chinese and Koreans and Japanese, have traded kin group dominance for more individual autonomy and nuclear families stimulating technology that gives a killing advantage. If fertility ruled all then Africa would by virtue of its fertility rule the world instead of being carved up like a turkey at Christmas for now the Chinese.

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      • Persians, Brits and Soviets were all “technologically dominant” in Afghanistan. As well as dead meat. Ditto for whomever has been invading that area formerly known as Yugoslavia.

        Massive inputs of exogenous resources (as arose from the discovery of scientific method / empiricism in Europe, oil in Arabia) can certainly tilt the balance of power in favor of those receiving the resources for awhile, but it’s awfully hard to keep the inputs growing at a pace outrunning fertile minorities-soon-to-be-majorities for all that long.

        In theory, persistent killing of those rapidly proliferating challengers-to-the-throne works; but historically, it looks like those cultures who create a killing caste to do that kind of work, finds themselves increasingly oppressed by the monster they created, and disintegrate, either due to internal jockeying for position in a generally hardening culture, or by offending so many outsiders that they eventually get sacked.

        The beauty of kinship structures is that it is darned cheap. People, like all animals, are genetically predisposed to stick up for their own kin. No need to waste resources on an army of non-productive overlords to enforce this or that. Just have enough kids so that the inevitable skirmishes along the borders between each group does not lead to complete extermination.

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      • The Afghans had nothing in the arsenal that could even touch a hind until Uncle Sam generously handed them over a thousand state of the art anti-aircraft weapons, at which point the game was up for the soviets.

        Likewise the soviets were attempting to prop up a soviet government, not slaughter everyone and just take their stuff(though they made a fair bit of progress in that direction as well).

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      • The US contribution in arms is mostly overrated. Hinds weren’t meant to pickout obscure, concealed small individual groups in secluded areas who pop out unexpectedly for short period of time at different places. Hinds were meant to be used against nato tank columns not farmer Ali. A single weapon whether they be stinger manpad or abram tanks dont win you wars. The afghans won because the afghans wanted to win with help from the outside world of anti-soviet interests with cash, recruits and mostly low tech weapons. And it is the tribal, rootedness, allegiance and sense of duty, group responsibility, honor etc etc that comes with tribal/ethnocentric society that made the difference for the afghans in their effort.

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    • Sodom and Gomorrah never existed.

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      • ???

        There is a huge difference between not being placeable with certainty in space and time, and ‘never existing.’ There are plenty of sources, not just the Bible, that place them somewhere around current day Jordan.

        Anyway, if you wish, substitute Rome. Decadent and wealthy, and undoubtedly full of people full of themselves. And just as useless when faced with a bit of pressure.

        The moral of the story is, being a self promoting peacock is fine and dandy as long as some big massa gommiment is watching ones back. But any massa gommiment committed to watching the backs of self promoting assholes, under pretense that propping such clowns up is somehow more sophisticated than simply letting them be cut down by those they offend, are doomed to waste increasing amounts of resources doing exactly that. Which puts them at a disadvantage against more civilized cultures, which can focus all their energy on survival and expansion.

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      • Been found…

        Victims of massive earthquake… later drought ( millennia later )

        One by one, the Biblical villages/ nee ‘cities’ are being found.

        The other year Herrod’s bathtub was found — it was bigger than the absurd Biblical dimensions made it out to be. ( It was in a rubbish pit 2,000 years old. )

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      • Hans, wrong. Whether you look at it as localities, or as a narrative.

        1. There are 2 localities sunk in the Dead Sea. The finds from the area were being published in archeological journals since early 60’s.

        2. The 2 cities were on the crossroad of the trade routes at the time. Think of something akin to NYC or LA, only more depraved.

        3. We call a natural catastrophe and act of God. Something of that sort was likely to transpire in the Dead Sea Valley. The Lot’s story is likely an embellishment, but the core data are essentially correct. The cities were known for their depravity and found their demise, which was later attributed to God.

        There were other localities/cultures that ceased to exist because of their disregard for a natural order of things. They usually unravel because they were unable to cope with natural catastrophes due to her overly hedonistic character or reproductive patterns that were based on theo/ideological foundations removed from natural order of things.

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      • Perhaps the cities of Sodom and Gamorrah did exist and due to some natural disaster like an underground fire in an area with high sulpher deposits exploded and send the fire into the air and then burned the cities down. These underground fires are burning all of the time in coal veins and there’s one that has been burning for 50 years. Now, the people in the area know of this story of the cities burning to the ground and the story is passed down orally for a few thousand years until Moses writes about it in Genesis. He really doesn’t know how the cities were destroyed or what really happened but just that they burned. So he assumes that some supernatural being destroyed them because the people were evil and it sort of fits into his thinking about how their new god Yehweh who they invented would behave. Moses was going around trying to find scattered clans and unify them so that they could invade the better land of Palestine and other places and this Yehweh religion was his unifying method because most of these clans were not following it and it was either forgot or the clan followed a local cult and they were still making cow idols and sacrificing kids to Moloch. So he wanted them all to believe the same religion so that he’d be justified in killing his enemies because they were heathens and only Yehweh was the true and only God. He used the old story about the destruction of Sodom and claimed that Yehweh did it to the heathens because they were evil and worphipped idols. He either didn’t known how or why the cities were destroyed or simply used the story as a pretext to inavde and destroy heathen places that didn’t follow Yehweh, and of course take their property and virgin females 🙂

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      • The trouble with all of these it’s-so-logical-don’t-you-know-man-invented-God-to-justify-killing-his-enemies sophistries is that man never really was that smart and/or able to pull off a true ruse for long.

        What if there actually is a God… and He occasionally makes Himself known to certain individuals, who then become His champions… and He hates perverse behavior… and will have His will done, even if on occasion He seems slow to act, by man’s standards?

        Do ungodly men act “more humane” than godly men? I would argue that history shows us just the opposite, hackneyed arguments in re Crusades and Inquisitions aside (which always conveniently forget to mention the likes of warfares and atrocities, both ancient and modern, done in the service of “The State”..

        Men act stupidly and brutally, whether they champion God or their own man-made isms (and in both cases often used as a disguise for what are merely the good ol’ seven deadlies)

        And in the latter case, the stupidity and brutality appears to far outweigh that which is allegedly done “in His name”.

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      • on July 22, 2012 at 5:25 pm Simon Corso

        Didja ever notice Adam have belly buttons in every single artist depiction of them ?

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      • Adam was the first ensouled man. He was not the first homo sapiens. And the Garden of Eden is a pedagogical mythos about the origin of sin, not a falsifiable theory on the origin of the species.

        The simplest catechism class would defuse the snark of a billion online comments. But why do that when there are acres of straw men to mowed under their rusty combines?

        Matt

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  31. on July 18, 2012 at 3:27 pm Rock Throwing Peasant

    It’s not the porn, per se, it’s that men can be content in almost any setting. They will have times of frustration, but will settle back into reality. Let’s face it, the life of the average male has been pretty bleak for eons. He remained content for 90% of that time and had intermittant periods of, “Eff this!”

    I think sexbot is simply the next, “Eff this!” moment.

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  32. First, you can’t extrapolate trends in a straight line. If men withdraw from the sexual marketplace, women will adjust to compete with “bots.”

    Second, images of hi-def porn are one thing. They are a refinement of photography and distribution. Bots are not refinements of blow-up dolls. They will require an entirely new invention that overcomes the “uncanny valley.”

    Third, you make a mistake about desire. Physical stimulation is a chief component of what we are after, but few of us will be able to fool our cerebral cortex into thinking we “dominated” a doll. The prize isn’t just the signs of submission to your will. The prize is the submission itself beneath the indicators. It would take a much more sophisticated simulation to overcome the nagging knowledge that one’s supplicating “mistress” came out of a box.

    Finally, the primal instinct will never be totally divorced from its biological function. Even after three generations of roughly reliable birth control, the urge to multiply has not been stripped out of us. We’re still having babies, accidentally and on purpose. A bot’s sterility is in some ways a permanent turn off that can never be overcome. And when men want to procreate, they will have to return to the real flesh-and-blood marketplace. Even a twisted, artificial freak like Michael Jackson was not immune to this basic urge, up there with hunger and thirst.

    Matt

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  33. >Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    I can still see a post I made with a tag like this in the last post. The moderation queue may be where a lot of people’s posts are in limbo.

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  34. I have written a few posts about this subject some time ago. For example-

    http://dissention.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/high-quality-ambient-porn-and-evolution-of-male-expectations/

    in which I argue that good looking amateurs making porn is a far bigger issue that professionals making it.

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  35. I’m actually surprised that we haven’t already seen sexbots, and I expect they will arrive sooner than later.

    Think about it: a sexbot doesn’t need to walk or have a full range of realistic movements or abilities (i.e. house cleaning). It just needs to look great, feel realistic to the touch, talk dirty, and be able to mimic certain movements and positions.

    Real Doll has been in business for how long now? Give the thing a dirty talking voice; a vagina that warms up, lubes up, and contracts; and just enough movement that it can gyrate and grind…and you’ve got gold. AI is certainly to the point to of having the voice say the right things at the right times.

    Too expensive? Shame in owning one? Sexbot brothels. Yeah, someone will have the dirty job of cleaning and disinfecting the things between visits. As nasty as that sounds, it is actually possible to clean and disinfect them unlike the slut at the bar. And there could be different bots/AIs/rooms for different fantasies, including fantasies that would be taboo or even illegal with real people.

    I honestly do not understand why they don’t already exist. The first company to produce an upgraded Real Doll and franchise a sexbot brothel will have more money than McDonald’s. Hire Charlie Sheen for the advertising. Winning.

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  36. First of all, how are you able to access to Mangans? It appears he shut his blog down and it can no longer be accessed? Maybe you are using an old link?

    Secondly, I have come to have a lot of doubts about the whole sex bot thing.

    Try watching a really good porn video that you really liked the first time again, it is nowhere near as good. Thus I don’t think a physical sexbot that looked the same would be as good as real porn due to the variety that you get.

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    • The real dolls have exchangeable heads and stuff. I assume it’d be like that.

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    • You could watch porn while the sexbot sucked your dick. You could have beer parties where the sexbot blew everyone there. You could have anal and eat a TV dinner on her back. It’s a sexbot and it won’t care!

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  37. and here is a older post that makes a similar point about the effect of ubiquitous p0rn on GenY men.

    http://dissention.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/has-high-quality-and-ubiquitous-porn-already-changed-gen-y-men/

    In any case, there is no doubt that ubiquitous p0rn has a major impact on society. But it is necessary to understand the context and option matrix underlying its prevalence and effects.

    Most women offer nothing more than infrequent and mediocre sex with lots of “attitude” in exchange for extraordinary privileges and expectations. HQ and ubiquitous P0rn simply provides mediocre sexual release without abusing and pauperizing the man.

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  38. “fitness is whatever gets one’s genes to the next generation, whether beneficial to civilization or not”

    this is the killer blow…being outcompeted by specimens who are fitter by way of traits that in any other era would be ‘unfit’

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  39. With sexbots, you’re basically talking about animated Realdolls? That might take a while and be disappointing.

    In the meantime, there are the inanimate Realdolls (and many other brands). Some of them look really realistic and attractive, but they’re hardly mentioned at all in the Manosphere. Just imagine: no attitude, no nagging, no cheating, no headaches.

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    • Have you fucked one?

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    • “no attitude, no nagging, no cheating, no headaches.”

      No thx!
      real womenz OK!

      computa looOOOoove whawhahwha compuuuta looove

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      • Yeah, it is weird. But aren’t sexbots weird too? Maybe even weirder, since they’ll move around. That might look really creepy, and might even be dangerous if you expose your delicate parts to it.

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      • Sexbots eventually will become indistinguishable from real human beings, physically, what would be weird about them?

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      • computa loooove. maybe you’re right. maybe its just something weird about the guys that would fuck them.

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    • on July 18, 2012 at 7:27 pm Dan Fletcher

      “In the meantime, there are the inanimate Realdolls (and many other brands). Some of them look really realistic and attractive, but they’re hardly mentioned at all in the Manosphere. Just imagine: no attitude, no nagging, no cheating, no headaches.”

      You must be trolling son.

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      • Well, wouldn’t they be a decent toy for omegas or guys who are tired of the bullshit of the women they can get?

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  40. on July 18, 2012 at 4:25 pm (R)Evoluzione

    One further possibility regarding female supernormal dopaminergic stimulation: game will continue to adapt to these supernormal stim levels. In essence, this has what the neg, the cocky funny, the aloof asshole, these things have all allowed men to stimulate those hindbrain dopamine neurons enough to cause the tingle. As the female stimuli amps up, game will amp up.

    Sexual selection is like that; this is how the male peacock ended up with its effulgent feathers.

    What would that look like in real time? a la 50 shades of grey–more male doms, D/s going mainstream, men leading women around in public on leashes as a common occurence.

    Alternately, the morphically resonant female hivemind might sense that it can’t sustain these levels of gender warfare especially in an increasingly dystopic economic enviroment, leading to an evolution towards more feminine, less crotchety & entitled women.

    One thing is for sure, it will be interesting to say the least to witness and participate in the evolution of these cultural-genetic trends. Viva La Crimsonian Arts.

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  41. But shouldn’t we be stressing the need to abstain from porn (and masturbation) in order to return the average dude’s motivation level to baseline? I mean, it’s a vicious cycle that suspends a guy in mediocrity or lower for the rest of his life. Just some good ol’ fashioned delaying of gratification so that you might reap the opportunity to actually get women attracted to you via status versus plopping down in your office chair and hunching over your keyboard with a bottle of lube.

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  42. on July 18, 2012 at 4:47 pm (R)Evoluzione

    Here’s part of that evolution that I mentioned earlier in a post still in moderation–the rise of 50 shades of Gigolos–maybe a gig for guys with game?
    http://observer.com/2012/07/pay-it-as-it-lays-in-the-50-shades-era-male-escort-services-are-on-the-rise/?show=all

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  43. Heartiste must have a really low opinion of men, to think that they will stoop to this level. I can see women easily going the sexbot route – instead of a vibrator, they’ll have a fully functional ken doll – and rationalize their loserdom. But men are not built that way. I see more MGTOW, PUA’s, Johns – but not losers.

    Women can live in disneyworld, and yet have men marry them – but men don’t have the luxury of getting away with loserdom.

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  44. AD,

    Thanks for the links. I thought this was particularly insightful:

    “Consider you average guy with an average looking girlfriend, wife or whatever. Let us say that his current “partner” refuses to blow as frequently as he wants. Prior to the last decade he could either accept his ‘fate’ or jerk of to professional porn. The digital camera and the intertubes have thrown a hitherto improbable kink in that process aka high quality amateur porn.

    Prior to this recent innovation, the women in erotica and porn were either very beautiful, very airbrushed or very trashy. Therefore the mind of a guy could at some level put a barrier between the porn and his pathetic life such that he did not expect what he saw on the screen to cum true for somebody like him.

    But high quality amateur porn is something unlike anything before it both in content and sheer volume. The average guy can now see tons of prettier than average but still accessible girls deep-throating their boyfriend, licking his balls, taking it up their ass and that is just for starters… ”

    I think the knowledge that there are a lot of women out there who go to great lengths to sexually please a man, or at least or so into sex that they do porn, does in fact eat away mightily at the satisfaction of a guy getting lackluster performance from whoever he is involved with. The realize their woman views it as a chore or duty, while these other woman look at it as fun and recreation. It ain’t always about looks; enthusiasm goes a long way.

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    • It ain’t always about looks; enthusiasm goes a long way.

      I’ve always said that.

      I’ll take an eager-to-please 6/7 over a haughty 8/9 any day of the week… twice on Sundays.

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    • They’re enthusiastic when they’re sucking alpha cock.
      I can’t really blame a girl for her lack of eagerness to suck a flaccid beta weewee.

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      • They’re enthusiastic when they’re sucking alpha cock.

        Only when they think they can land him.

        The enthusiasm to suck cock thereafter wanes appreciably once they do land him… or come to the realization that he’s having none of that LTR business.

        The Trumps, the Joels, the Cruises… none of ’em can hold onto their erstwhile hotties.

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      • I’m sure Mrs. Joel, Mrs. Trump, Mrs. Cruise, Mrs. Schwartzenegger, et. al. were all once enthusiastic.

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      • As I get older I realise that once they woman has the alpha child and a legal claim on alpha resources thereafter, her status (which women care a LOT about) is assured, and she generally no longer cares much about keeping the pair bond via sex. Now she is all about the kids and maintaining her social status among her perceived peers.

        Previously, that status required maintaining her marriage to the alpha. Now, not so much, so you get these listless wives, who simply don’t give a shit, even when married to high quality guys.

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      • Exactly… but the point further being, in the eyes of (the vast majority) of women, alpha is only alpha until landed… and no man’s dick is sugar-coated.

        All this talk of enthusiastic cock-sucking is just so much wind… along with the alpha versus beta binary form.

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      • Your marriage game must be weak bro.

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      • Your marriage game must be weak bro.

        And nobody knows more about marriage than the unwed… bro.

        Weak as it may be, the difference between my marriage game and that of the endless list of divorced men whom the world points to as ‘alpha’ is this: my wife hasn’t left me.

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      • “And nobody knows more about marriage than the unwed… bro.”

        Fair point.

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  45. *Tried posting this earlier, but it seemed to get devoured*

    Funny you should post this, as I was wondering about this very same thing even to the point of trying to write a short story examining the ramifications. Much of this has already been explored here multiple times, but let me try to pull it together again.

    First, you need to convince the detractors who will snicker and mock the concept, that the “Sexbot” or whatever it will eventually be called, will become reality, and much sooner than anyone thinks. See Kurzweil’s “The Law of Accelerating Returns” (http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns) for an idea of how fast technological advances are coming at us.

    I am thinking that “Sexbots” will actually make their first appearance as an interactive avatar on computers and game consoles, downloadable as software. Various game systems are already working on this interactive character model in a non-sexual form. One can even make the argument that “sexbots” already have appeared, crudely, in the form of various video games. Tomb Raider, for instance, had as it’s major draw a pretty, very fit yet voluptuous woman in tight fitting clothes completely under the control of the player. Anyone hear want to argue it would have been nearly as big a seller if it had been a male character, or a fat, fugly female one? I am not as up on video games as I was, but others may know of even better, more recent examples.

    Anyway, as the graphics get even more realistic (and they are really getting astounding) and more importantly the software models the interactions in a more realistic way, the capability to produce a satisfying product will emerge. Now, granted, this is not a physical interaction with a true “Sexbot”, but it will be much cheaper to produce and buy for the masses, and the advances made in the software and thus in the interactions can be made before translating it to an affordable real world device. I would even argue that the AI interactions portion is more important than the realistic physical model. I think men would appreciate a realistic truly interactive female, rendered at least in 3D, on a screen than an anatomically correct but very artificial behaving robot. And, just as with video games, software only models makes it much easier to tailor things to taste, like physical appearance. In essence, these things will become interactive porn, which may put a lot of aspiring adult film makers out of work.

    BTW, I put “Sexbot” in quotes not only because I am not sure what the final product will be called, but because these devices will fulfill more than sexual desire. I honestly can imagine that a huge part of what will make these things attractive for men is a companionship aspect. Having an attractive woman, real or not, treat them with respect will be a major selling point.

    The interactive Avatar will come first, and then when the tech becomes good and affordable enough, it will be merged to a physically appealing chassis. At every stage, the experience won’t really match actual interaction and sex with a woman, but it will get increasingly closer, with can’t-be-underestimated benefit of not having to deal with all the drama, bullshit and legal complications that a true relationship entails in our modern era. Eventually, of course, the tech will be so good, one will be hard pressed to tell the two apart and guys won’t really give a shit for the most part.

    What really stands in the way of this development? Only legal restrictions and attempted social ostracization. Sony and Microsoft may resist allowing this kind of stuff to be sold on their platforms, but eventually that will give way.

    I am not sure what grounds the first would stand on, but I don’t bet against vested interests pulling something out their ass. Watch for “Sex Androids are People Too” kind of rhetoric.

    On the second, the shaming will be hot and intense, but in a world which otherwise seems to say “It it feels good, do it” about everything else, it kind of seems unlikely have much impact in the long run. And, let’s face it, most actual chicks will have a hard time honestly berating a guy for hitting an android if the thing is much more attractive and pleasant that they are, and which can look them right in the eye and tell them, “Be jealous, you fat bitch!”

    Of course, women may very well jump on board the whole concept anyway, using “Sexbots” themselves, so who the hell are they too talk.

    So, assuming this tech is not strangled by those threatened by it, what is the fallout?

    The vast majority of men, feeling either shut out of the sexual market-place or feeling its not worth it risk wise to enter, will have ALL of their basic needs now covered. They have always been able to fend for themselves, and with the ability to have sex and female interaction as they like it, will dive whole hog into it. They may even lend each other models like your trade video games or DVD’s. Will it truly be as fulfilling as being in a relationship with a real woman? Who the fuck cares! They are fucking something that looks like Jennifer Aniston in her peak years, and never gives him a fucking hassle, but instead mows his lawn, does his fucking taxes and cooks. I am a little horrified at what the average male who goes this route will look and act like once fully immersed in this life, but I am guessing he’ll probably be much happier than he would have been.

    The Alphas will certainly have the pick of the real women as the market share of men drop out of contention, and unless Harems truly become a normal part of society, logistically the vast majority of women will NOT be able to garner the attention of one of them even for a quick bang because there is too much competition and an Alpha only has so many hours in a day. An interesting thought, however, is that when artificial women get good enough, will even Alphas go that route? Even with game, real women can be a fucking hassle and time waster, so will some of them go the artificial route? Hey, Androids don’t get diseases, and one will never tell you she’s pregnant unless you have that feature installed.

    The real question mark is what do the women do? Do they form those Harems, willing to gang-bang Alpha males just to get some of that? Do most of them also drop out of the sexual market place and find other ways to fulfill their needs? Do they, dare I say, clean up their acts and try to behave much more in a way to get a Beta to even look at them? Will that even work?

    I have to say I am perplexed as what route they would take, but then, if I knew woman better, would I be here?

    The men, both of the above groups, seem like they will be getting what they want from the world, having their needs fulfilled, artificially or not. and I daresay are probably pretty happy about it.

    WOULD women accept attention from artificially attentive Male bots, who look like Brad Pitt and listen to every damn word they say without complaint? Or, would they buy bots which acted Alpha, and how would that work? Would those Alpha bots try to fuck their friends and would that be considered a feature and not a bug?

    One overriding result of all this will be a precipitous population drop, making even our current issues in Western nations looks downright fruitful.

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  46. Da wiminz can all go lesbo.

    but think of what sexbots would do to the price of prostitutes, the original lifelike sex-dolls…

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  47. “Answer: 50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.”

    You left out the most obvious one: Pop music. Women getting measurably moist (proven by studies) by listening to pop music, of all stripes and kinds. The lyrics, the beat, the male voice. Just because women (mostly) stop doing the preteen and teenage screaming fan thing when they get older, doesn’t mean they aren’t having exactly the same response to pop, rap, rock, blues, and other musical stars.

    They’ve just learned to hide it better. Oh, and most of the western world “entertainment” is catered to female porn. “People” magazine, and the others like it are really female porn. And so on.

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  48. Heartiste:
    “, in a few generations we could see a much more God-fearing Western world”

    Roger. This is manifest most clearly among Moslems and LDS-ers
    (“Mormons”).

    They start with half-a-dozen kids and build from that.

    More mainstream practicing Christians have a handful of kids,
    or at least two. The metrosexual elite average about one kid per
    woman – at most.

    The same is at work in Israel, where the hardliners breed like
    Muslims and the metrosexual elites breed like their de facto
    brethren in the US and Europe.

    The results might be surprising…

    Thor

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  49. You guys are missing out the big picture: A bot must smart enough to have sex, so it means that it’ll probably be able to cook, clean and iron.

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  50. “Answer: 50 Shades of Gray, tabloids, Facebook, OkCupid, pulp romance novels, pretty much everything on TV, high glycemic carbs.”

    Fucking lol’ed at this (not untrue) punch line after the big build-up to the question.

    When I first met my natural buddy he told me he doesn’t look at porn or jack off. I thought he was joking around till I hung with him for a while…dude gets new girls weekly and has around 10 in rotation. He doesn’t bother with porn and hasn’t for years because he always has girls available. If he needs to bust a nut he txts till one of his girls comes over or hits the bar for new girls. He can’t even comprehend needing a porn stash lol

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    • Heh.
      “My man never looks at porn” now gets the come-back: “He doesn’t need to when he has other girls to choose from”. 🙂

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  51. Realdolls documentary….too creepy….

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    • That’s your exalted sexbot right there. It won’t get much better than that, really.

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      • Give it 30 years.

        It’s creepy because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

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      • Now that is an interesting observation. Also uncanny is how a site like this is so ..erudite.

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      • If you watch the full 48 minute video, it appears the dolls are getting more and more life-like and the uncanny valley syndrome won’t matter as long as a woody can be achieved and taken care of. The end of the video shows a forty something woman losing a battle for her boyfriend to 8 teenage dolls that look at least like the forerunners to something most men could get off on. That is the future of feminism right there: men saying “I’m sorry but I’d rather a doll” with no shame. Civilization will be helped by seeing feminism crushed. So the valley of the dolls won’t help bring civilization down but up.

        Another great video is the Candy Girls showroom one. The technology is getting a lot better. I was surprised because the last time I thought about this issue was more than 10 years ago when dolls were just a foolish joke and only retarded omegas could ever get a woody from them.

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  52. This reminds me of a conversation I had where there are dudes who are ignoring their wives for some online avatar thing, I think it’s Second Life. So, there are apparently photorealistic perfect girls you can jerk it to now, and lord knows what else, have a “relationship”. So, it’s starting…

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  53. Hey, dude, don’t go all singularity on us!

    Seriously, though, at the end of this post you say that fitness is what gets your genes into the next generation. I agree.

    But some time back, you took issue with someone who proposed in the comments that, evolution-wise, “alphas” are those who have offspr

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    • offspring, which seemed a reasonable observation.

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    • I mean, in a sense it’s just a change of definition. Anyone could make up their own little definition of “alpha” and then use it. I could define “alpha” to mean guys who earn $250,000 or more annually. It wouldn’t be useful, but it wouldn’t violate logic.

      But when it comes to sex, evolution’s viewpoint is one that readily comes to mind.

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    • That’s been discussed over and over and over again. Having lots of offspring was certainly a proxy for alphaness before the pill, but femcunts want you to believe that it still is so that you keep playing the dutiful cog in their suburban status whoring/divorce theft machinery.

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    • Then the ultimate alpha must be that doctor years ago who inseminated hundreds, or thousands of women with his own sperm instead of the sperm banks 🙂

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      • From the viewpoint of “evolution”, yes (although Genghis Khan is still the champ).

        Someday some future beta will manage to acquire a lock of hair from some future Scarlett Johansson, extract her DNA, use it to produce an egg through future biotech, fertilize each one, load them all into artificial womb machines, and produce a baby. From the “viewpoint of evolution”, this will have been the equiva

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      • equivalent of wooing the girl, etc.

        A black market for the DNA sequences of hot famous babes will develop.

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  54. on July 18, 2012 at 7:39 pm Dan Fletcher

    I suspect virtual reality combined with nerve-induction(think being “plugged-in”, à la the Matrix) will either come before realistic sexbots or become more popular once the technology is refined.

    Such technology would have endless advantages over sexbots. Infinite variety of women and scenarios, new content being made all the time, privacy, more realistic, no need to hide a fucking robot from your friends, etc…

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    • Someone shared karigirl.com here before. It would be like a 3D version of that, perhaps. If/when that happens, love will really be dead. Oh, the inhumanity!

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      • Read “The Big Ball of Wax” from the 50s. Note “big” not “whole”.
        The author called it XP for “experience” decades before Microsoft
        swiped the term. Prediction of plugging in to your nervous system.

        Thor

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      • Is there a cliff notes version? It sounds interesting, but my brain is about to explode 🙂

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  55. This will never come to pass under the current regime for the same reason that fat American land whales have enacted legislation against “foreign brides”. Do you actually think in a society as broken as our current one these things would go unregulated? They would be shamed into oblivion just like smoking, wanting to bang 16 year old girls, or anything else that the blobs have deemed unacceptable.

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  56. I doubt “sexbots” regardless of how realistic they may be, will radically alter anything. Male masturbation aides are already readily available and I’ve never known a guy who owned one. Same thing with prostitution – I don’t think it has radically altered relationships between the sexes in places where it is legal.

    Sex is largely psychological. No sexbot could ever come close to the psychological fulfillment from having sex with an actual woman who willingly gives it up without having to pay her. I could see how sexbots could make omega males even lazier than porn has already made them. But, otherwise, it’s not a game changer.

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  57. To fight the results of bot sex will be draconian rules the versatile in elected office will make.

    The femlobby will complain about environment all effects of massive cinema disposal when the bots are cleaned. And most bot users will self-clean them.

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  58. If realistic, convincing, basically realistic sexbots come into existence, there is a definite possibility that women become de facto axoltl tanks. Sexually satiated, men would have no use for women other than as baby makers.

    It’s dystopian and the logic is extreme… but it’s not impossible.

    As for me, I wouldn’t mind sex bots at all. Keep all the losers at home. More snatch for me, and significantly easier snatch at that.

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    • Turning them all into axolotl tanks would fill my heart with joy. Too bad I won’t live to see that glorious day come.

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  59. I think it’s improbable that sex robots will be a satisfactory sexual surrogate for women. All the minor discrepancies between a sexbot and a woman – such as skin texture, movement, and smells – will be perceived by the male brain. This will ruin the fantasy. Even if scientists manage to produce a carbon copy of a very beautiful female, the knowledge it is not real will spoil the experience.

    The senses and the dick have been working in unison for many centuries, and they’ll figure out soon enough that there aren’t any eggs in there.

    In a way, ladyboys already have a leg up on the sexbots. They are human, and if doctors chisel away long enough at them and pump them full of hormones, they can get them looking fairly womanly. Nevertheless, the male brain still picks them out (fortunately). To be fair to the robots, a man isn’t disgusted by the thought of doing a robot as he is by the thought of doing a man. This is a huge advantage for the robots.

    I still might buy one if they are able to cook and I could get one at a bargain price. The problem then is explaining to women you bring home that you have a sex robot solely to cook for you, which they’ll be unlikely to believe.

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    • >skin texture
      >movement
      >behavior
      >smells
      >pheromones
      >intelligence

      Given time and effort I see no reason why any of these are impossible to duplicate, improve on, and perfect.

      >the male brain still picks them out

      Is there evidence for this? Women can have slight masculine features too.

      >pump them full of hormones
      >thought of doing a man

      Gender isn’t a black and white thing. There are extremes, and there are things which make people weird, creepy, different to others. A person born with a more feminine brain but female parts? As technology advances, people like these will be able to have surgery, have female parts cloned and grown from their own stem cells and dna, and be able to not have such gender dysphoria. As people who play the game, we generally put blinders on to everyone who doesn’t fit the biological paradigm by disqualification.

      Is a person who was born with a female brain, has a full sex change, and is able to reproduce still male?

      Is it amusing how people are disgusted when others go against the norms of their biological, developmental, or situational circumstance. Like how women can be disgusted about guys using game. They want natural high value males only and do not want to be tricked or cheated into giving incubator time to a beta. Likewise men want a “real” female to fuck and have children with.

      Everything is horrible, nothing really matters, and I’m laughing about it.

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      • “Given time and effort I see no reason why any of these are impossible to duplicate, improve on, and perfect.”

        People can still tell when a photo is photoshopped. No matter how many of millions Hollywood spend on effects, you can tell when something is fake. As the gap between real and false becomes narrower, the human brain will become better at discerning one from the other. Our sensitivity will increase. This is just my belief. I haven’t researched the matter.

        Even if I’m wrong, the person buying the sexbot will know it is not real. It is not his actual fantasy; It’s just been made to resemble it. It would be hard to see how this knowledge could be a turn-on rather than a turn-off.

        As for the transgender question, I don’t know if you can establish a clear dividing line, either. I can only say that if I was told half-way through sex that the woman I was doing was born a male, it would be a turn-off (and a pretty significant one) rather than a turn-on.

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      • Well I for one would enjoy having a sex-bot, but I will not settle for anything less than one which is a full human-like AI, with a mind which is a near-perfect copy of the human brain. She should be indistinguishable from a real woman.

        Anything else would be indistinguishable from masturbation. Hell, even having sex with some human women nowadays is indistinguishable from masturbation.

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      • I think you are correct in your thinking on humans learning to discern subtle differences. However, I think, people will also develop the capacity to override those senses and use sexbots out of convenience or because they have reached the conclusion that their relations with women aren’t what they grew up dreaming about. They do it now with porn. Most women are pretty two dimensional anyway.

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      • Exactly! We’re becoming the bots!

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      • Just make sure you get a surgically implanted zipper on your mouth (better be remotely controlled!) and you’d be good to go. For an omega, that is, you don’t have much assets in looks department.

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      • That neg needs to go back to the drafting board.

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      • ‘ts not a neg. Just a statement of a fact. A neg would be used in the case of some degree of interest. There isn’t any.

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      • You fail to address cultural influences and a generation who grow up not knowing the real versus the artificial. Today people text and use social media websites like it were second nature. A generation or two ago and people would have a hard time understanding the compulsion to twitter or use facebook.

        In much the same way people now have a hard time perceiving the future of sexbots. We see the world as it is today, and sure even if sexbots become a perfected technology there will always be some old kodger from yesteryear claiming it doesn’t quite feel the same as his late beloved. A sentiment that will not be shared by his grandkids or a generation whose first teen sexual encounter was through simulated ultra realistic VR sex or a sexbot.

        I don’t believe for a second that the human mind is infallible in discerning a real thing versus the artificial. We have a finite number of photoreceptors and a finite degree of taste touch and smell. With exponentially rising complexity in machines, there will be a convergence in the near future. And then all bets are off. I am certain shortly after, we will see a dramatic drop in population growth.

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    • Be an alpha. Have a threesome with the girl and the sexbot.

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    • I think there will always be demand for natural humans and they won’t be replaced entirely, but they will get competition from sexbots. Marriage rates will be reduced to 25 or 30%, maybe lower. If men already reject women for porn, a sexbot and porn would work just fine. This number will increase as sexbots improve. If they made a Daryl Hannah model from Blalderunner, most of us would accept her being a replicant. Real women would have to learn not to be so self entitled, solopsistic and bitchy if they wanted a true relationship. Even then, I can foresee a sexbot in every mancave, just like men still look at porn after marriage. The market for humans will be reduced to those who have a greater genuine interest in the opposite sex.

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      • “The market for humans will be reduced to those who have a greater genuine interest in the opposite sex.”

        Yes.

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      • yes, it will force women to woman up, because sexbots don’t age, get ugly, or gain weight.

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      • There will probably be an app for that. For the guys who need the extra challenge of mood swings, emotional outbursts, weight gain, senseless arguments and “headaches “.

        I honestly can’t imagine the scenario where sexbots would compete with real women though, possibly, for the most socially retarded omegas. But no matter how realistic you make it would still be just a thing, not a person. Some may appreciate the reliability and predictability of a thing that only exists to service them, but the novelty would wear off quickly. Predictability is boring. Even for men.

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      • “There will probably be an app for that. For the guys who need the extra challenge of mood swings, emotional outbursts, weight gain, senseless arguments and “headaches “. ”

        HAHAHA! A much needed injection of levity into the discussion 🙂 I’m not afraid of the bots. I will take them out with my universal remote!

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      • No, women will just have their own male sexbots.

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      • It would be much harder to produce male sexbots which would be attractive to women. You can make a bot pretty, but It’s pretty hard to program dominance into a bot.

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  60. Nah, nothing much will change. The survival of humanity is only dependent on the best of men and women breed as opposed to everyone else. History has shown that humanity has descended from 80% of womanhood and only 40% of manhood. Hence – most men have already been superfluous to human lineage hence losing 60% of today’s and tomorrow’s men to sexbots wouldn’t put a dent in humanity.

    However what of the fact that traditional religious people make the most babies and thus will be dictating the future? More like a regression to the mean. Not to mention sexbots aren’t going to get much multi-generational usage. If anything the future will be family-friendly conservative.

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  61. Yo Heartiste, google “Simon Pegg twitter.”

    When you get the details of the story, look at this pic:

    That’s the chick that called him out.

    lulz

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  62. Heartiste, you would appreciate this:
    Dad leaves $1.2 million mansion for his ex-wife and is still forced to $4,000 a month in spousal support leaving him without retirement funds

    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1220096–deadbeat-dad-flees-to-philippines-leaving-four-kids-without-support

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  63. on July 18, 2012 at 9:23 pm blackbird.young

    Pro flesh. Anti-fleshlight.

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  64. No tweets?
    The article was planned to be published automatically.

    Where the fuck is our boss?

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  65. Hmm, What does this have to do with getting help bagging hot whore bags? Hmm, I’m here to learn how to manipulate a bitch, any bitch. I don’t want to read these silly posts… [ What should have I expected, settling for one source of information?] all the techniques work. it’s about how to effectively use them. I tend to be particularly nasty to hot chicks, uglier chicks are easier to dominate socially and sexually… with hot chicks i point out to many negative things. i’m starting to gauge and throttle now; rather than being direct about my neg, I insinuate it if i can. either very vaguely or very obviously. it all depends on how much approval i can get her to seek from me…this shit is insidious I WANT TO KNOW MOOOORREE

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  66. What happened to Mangan’s. It was one of my favorite blogs.

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  67. […] After reading an awesome piece over at Heartiste today about how the current of free high quality porn is slowly erasing mens dependency on women, and how sexbots would completely remove it (thus creating the paradox of abundance mentality and turning every guy into an aloof alpha).. i got to thinking about something i wrote about a while back in a post about double standards. […]

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  68. Oh really? NO ONE knows what happened to Mangan’s blog?

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    • I’ve been noticing his posts got rarer and rarer lately, and now the blog seems to be gone for good… Maybe he retired?

      You will be sorely missed, Mr. Mangan.

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    • He saw for the first time in his life a porn site and he is now studying the matter.

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  69. For the conspiracy freaks who believe the rothschilds, rockfellers & associates rule the world and created feminism. Here’s an interview of the richest rothschild’s wife who intends to take over his empire along with his daughters. Reeks ballbusting femcuntery:

    http://www.edmond-de-rothschild.com/news/financial/group/interview-with-baroness-benjamin-de-rothschild-in-corriere-della-sera-110203.aspx

    If you ever hit it big, don’t put your money there.

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  70. For a woman whose senses are in thrall to the sexual delights of fictional billionaire sadists, the ego uplifts of beta male supplicating social media, the instant gratification of carby calories, and the fantasy worldview reinforcing messages of gay and feminist-dominated trash TV, is a woman who is too obese, too self-absorbed and too demanding to make the sacrifices required of her to please a husband and raise a family of more than 0.5 kids.

    Brilliant stuff. The end of civilisation as we know is :S

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  71. Heartiste:
    “strict religious orders may institute draconian rules to shield their members from the onslaught; coupled with their higher birth rates, in a few generations we could see a much more God-fearing Western world”

    Yup. Expect the world to be taken over by Muslims and Mormons (LDS-ers).

    Thor

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  72. Unlike Heartsie, I don’t think the invention of sexbots will negatively affect society much in terms of science and technology.

    Remember Newton and Nikola Tesla? They didn’t do science to impress women, but because it was a worthwhile goal in itself. I’m sure most people who are seriously into such topics think in the same way. Similarly, I think most nerds will not abandon science and technology because of some robot woman. At least not any more than they would abandon those for video games. Most nerds will probably will be happy to have more time on their hands to tinker with cool stuff, since the sexbot will only be used during sex and maybe for household chores, and turned off the rest of the time. Real women don’t have an off switch.

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  73. on July 19, 2012 at 7:42 am AlmostAnonymous

    DB Story is an author who writes about this very thing. In his world(s) Fembots, or self aware sex androids exist and he write stories about them and their interaction with their human owners.

    Yes, most of it is soft core porn, but it is interesting to see how he examines the effect these machines have on people and society.

    http://www.smashwords.com/profile/view/dbstory

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  74. seriously, it must be a cultural thing, but in my experience the more a guy j.erks off, thw more girls he hit, and vice versa

    In my case, the more p.orn I receive, the more I need to go to nightclubs.

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  75. Good writing.
    And as such a valid pronostication. Enter brave new animal farm 2084. Not that I’d like to see that come about.

    “Why should men do anything? Not the recipe for a healthy society.”
    Indeed not. Human dysfunction abounding enough already with traditional courting, co-habitation and resulting progeny. Plus contemporary life in general involving both, the modern facilitation of convenience, and a relaxing of the need to excel and achieve.
    So, yes, why should men do anything at all to sustain the society that embraces them as mules, dunces and a necessary evil?
    Well, to sustain themselves, should be the obvious answer.
    If a sexbot near future appears as a solution to the exisitng culture of directed hatred it’s possible to say that individual men have already resigned and submitted themselves to that hatred and see no need to sustain others while their survival is classed second rate, at best.

    But why the early towel throwing? Men haven’t yet effectively entered the social ring to assert themselves as we all know they can. Pay no heed to the lazy seemingly incorrigible culture of disdain for things male. Put on the gloves and get the fuck in there. And go team.

    “Why should men do anything?”
    – Why then should women do little to nothing?
    What are women contributing to progress that is not a fixation upon themselves, as contributors to courtships or even base bunny hopping? Seemingly little to nothing. It’s far too easy to accomodate them for their own pleasures by doing it for them (game, as much an acquired art it is) by or for whatever means. Make them contribute or do something.
    Surely with all of women’s desired attention sustained to themselves one could at least hope that an honest appraisal of themselves would have been forthcoming. Plenty of time has elapsed enough already for this to occur. It appears that, as a whole, many have not the capacity. Their laziness as a contributing factor to man’s? Fuk that. Put it back in their obstinate faces. Sexbot design and useage and porn is not the only way, only a way out.

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  76. Onward and Upward toward each person having their own sexbot, viva la revolucion!!!

    Soon we will get robotoy3001 from Japan or some such place with fully morphing polyalloylatex that feels like real skin and is durable made from some sharknanotype that does not carry pathogens and has no attachedment of virii or any other dirt. Thus all you need is a wash of water and good as new…

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  77. This will not happen. Fembots know that sexbots are a threat to the power of the pussy. They will pass laws to make sexbots illegal. Their justification will be “objectification of gender” or some such nonsense.

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  78. It has been my opinion that we will not suddenly enter into a sex bot revolution. We already entered into this phenomenon with photography and porn. The next step IMHO is not robots but digitally created women who have no flaws and can be created on demand. Some of those hot women dumped on the streets will be out of work models.

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  79. […] [skriver]: Is porn turning men into lazy bums? Might explain the effects of supernormal stimuli. Money […]

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  80. […] [skriver]: Some free thinkers may ask, “What’s the equivalent of modern supernormal stimuli for women? […]

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  81. OT.

    Hot 22 year old Assistant Cheerleading Coach performs sex act on 17 year old high school basketball player.

    http://mediaoutrage.com/2012/06/25/indiana-cheerleading-coach-arrested-for-hitting-off-high-school-basketball-player-in-her-car/

    According to sources, she is also engaged.

    It is no longer 30-something married, 7 year itch teachers doing this. It’s the hot teachers and assistant coaches.

    Men need to do a good job of screening women well especially before considering marriage. And take the sure bet that almost ANY woman/girl is going to give into hypergamous drives if given the opportunity.

    It’s critical that you position yourself as alpha as possible in her realm of reality so as to minimize this possibility. But of course, everyone here already knows this.

    As Heartiste would say, this circumstance is just another datapoint pushing hypergamy from less of a Theory to more of a Law.

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  82. I think sexbots for women as well as men will become a reality for anyone with a SMV of 5 or below. They won’t be missed by the 6 pluses, anyway. There’s actually been a movie made about a sexbot for women — perhaps someone can come up with the name. The bot provided sex, of course, but more importantly to the woman, romance, endless romance (and cuddling)!

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  83. on July 19, 2012 at 1:15 pm Dr. Zoidberg

    I’m a hunter (animals, women, bargains, etc.). I need the thrill of the hunt. That’s what gets me off. Masturbatory physical sensation and some fantasy are fun every now and again for maintenance, but it just makes me want to go bag new trophies.

    Thus, it doesn’t matter how lifelike a sexbot ever is, I would still know it was just shipped to my door. That’s never going to keep hunters satisfied.

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    • This comment nails it. Getting off is the same as eating or breathing, but conquest is the meaning of life.

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    • You probably pull women better than most of the male population, so you might be one of the few who continue to use the real thing. If even half of men are using these new gizmo’s, that is all it will take to reshape our society and the way men and women interact with each other.
      Also, you’re going to find a “bargain” on a sex bot sooner or later.

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  84. that guys and dolls video was terrifying!
    Are there really males like that? In the words of the rock bank DEVO “Are we not men?”
    I think we normal fellows should reach out to these sexless dweebs, bitch slap them a few times and drag them into normal social interaction.

    BTW anybody remember the movie “Stepford Wives”?

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    • Lol, normal. Such a subjective word. I’m a hypersexual and I live a regular life with a good salary, my best friends as roomies in a home I built, and a career I enjoy. I’ve been single and celibate for three years and I’ve strictly stuck to masturbation once every two days. I am into odd (but not sick or dangerous) fantasies and the girls into them are usually the wrong type. I need a freak, a loyal freak that has a functioning brain. I’m not going to find that and I am well aware of that and even more so, I accept that fate (it only took me 27-30 years to realize that. Before, I used to think I could never live without a girlfriend). Women in “normal” society just want a baby or marriage. Freaky girls want lots of sex, but their reputations and habits are sadly less than noteworthy (not saying all women are like this, including wanting a baby, etc). You can think that giving up and sticking to pleasuring yourself is the path of ruin. I actually focus better on my work now and I’m free. I don’t even date. You can even call me a loser that a chat friend of mine of six years and I roleplay on MSN together. Yeah, it’s not real, but with our imaginations and the scenarios we make, it helps us a lot. Who knows, I may meet her someday, but I don’t want to make false promise to her or scare her because I am semi-insatiable in reality. It sounds sad, pathetic, etc. I get it. I’m someone that probably “needs help” because I would prefer a sexbot to a real woman. Hey, no kids, not STDs, no money robbed from my wallet. Emotional bonding, that then becomes the question if their program can handle it. I refuse to pay for sex or sleep around with someone real because I have morals (non-religious) and I am well aware my tastes are a bit selfish. I’m doing society a favor by being celibate because I don’t have to pound some random vagina to justify I am a man or get off when I know perfectly what I need and want. I at least have the confidence and the courage to admit my shortcomings, but turn them into life saving strengths. I have no kids, no disease, no emotional weight. I am free.

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  85. Pffft. We already live in a society where a man can spend a bit of cash to get whatever sort of sex he wants. It’s shit-test free and available to people with ZERO game at all. They’re called prostitutes.

    Sex bots really don’t change the market dynamic at all.

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    • This. Because making robots costs time and money and making humans just happens. The best argument against sexbots is this economical argument.

      Cloning 8/9/10’s so much that every man can have at least one of them however, now that would really screw up the dating and sexual marketplace.

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      • Do it now!!!

        A politician who promised this would get 99% of the male vote (only Omegas wouldn’t vote for such a promise).

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      • My 18 year old girlfriend just found this page open on my computer. She’s got the face and body of one of the top model dolls, but also an IQ of 130 built into the head. They won’t be able to match her for at least another 20 years I said (nice neg). I told her the dolls now cost about $4k each which I wouldn’t pay. She said “But that’s cheap. Every man will be getting them.”

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  86. pardon me if someone’s mentioned this before – but isn’t it interesting that there’s so much stigma attached to sexbots for men, when women basically already have them (vibrators, dildos, etc.)?

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  87. on July 19, 2012 at 5:14 pm Beer Monkey

    I can’t make a robot feel degraded. Takes all the fun out of it.

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  88. One word: nofap. It has changed my life, along with 22k+ other men. I’m surprised no one else has mentioned it here so far. See: reddit.com/r/nofap

    Basically, if you cut out the porn from your life, your sexual energy has no easy outlet, so you are driven to going out to meet people at bars/clubs/wherever, and you become more extroverted/social. It also pushes you to become more aggressive and assume an attitude that the little things in life are not important, instead you must push to achieve results. Nofap is a rejection of porn, among men who say enough is enough, we are willing to do what it takes to get the real thing: improve ourselves.

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  89. Adam Carolla stands by his comment.
    “Men are funnier than Women!”
    Frame Control my Friend!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/adam-carolla-everyone-can-kiss-my-ass_n_1684054.html

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  90. Sexbot users will be treated the same way fleshlight users are treated today, ostracized and made fun of. I don’t see them as being as ubiquitous as porn, alas I could be unimaginative.

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  91. Holy shit you made Instapundit!

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/146909/

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  92. Anybody remember that episode from the TV program Twilight Zone (or maybe it was Outer Limits) where a guy is left on a planet with a robot? I remember seeing this in the 60’s and it made a real impression.
    The guy is dropped off on an isolated planet to serve a lifetime prision sentence. He is left with enough food and power to last for the rest of his life, but the penalty is that he is alone. However, in an inexplicable fit of compassion the ship’s captain leaves him with this female robot in a big box.
    At first, the guy refuses to look inside the box, but eventually opens it and assembles the girl robot. The robot is activated and is nearly a blank slate. But “she” eventually learns his language and his preferences and after a while seems like a real wife (a perfect wife).
    Anyway, after 4 or 5 years, the prision ship returns and tells the guy that he has been pardoned for his crime and they are going to take him back to his home planet.
    The hitch is that they are weight limited for blastoff and can only take him and not the female robot. The guy is heartbroken, truly heartbroken and seriously considers remaining on the planet with his mechanical bride. He eventually takes off, but has obviously left the best part of his life behind.

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  93. Just as well say that dog companionship (God bless them) will replace the need for human companionship. A sexbot is nothing more than a sex toy, not a replacement for human interaction.

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    • Yes but, outside of sex, what good is the modern cunt for? The non-sexual human interaction is far better spent on bros. They’re far lower on the cuntocity.

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    • Like negroes aren’t a real substitute for human interaction and neocons aren’t a substitute for real Troskyites.

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    • Did you see Bladerunner or AI? All of the machines in both films were virtually indistinguishable from real humans. All of them were capable of complex interaction and emotional depth. That will be a reality one day.

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      • Tyrone, I sort of doubt if the poor omegas will have one of these things anymore than they now drive a Bentley.

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      • Yeah, but then you have to listen to those interminable stories about what wonders they’ve seen off the shoulder of Orion.

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  94. Why bother with sexbots when there are prostitutes who are real women, and are usually better looking than amatuer women? Never mistake what I say. It is better to seduce an HB 4 woman into bed than to pay a profesional or semi-pro whore HB 9 woman. The problem of course is women got the vote and shortly thereafter or before 1920 USA made prostitution illegal and enforced the laws against it. Women care less about men and their needs or sexual desires as a rule than men care about women’s needs and sexual desires. Too many men are against prostitution too which makes no sense. Why should you care what 2 consenting adults do? You shouldn’t. Professional whores are less likely to have venereal diseases than amatuer women, and almost no whores are coerced or underage. Men shaming other men for going to whores makes no sense. Would you rather a man pay a professional whore HB 9 woman for sex or be trapped in a marriage with an HB 2 with a horrible personality? Sadly most American men would choose the latter not only for themselves but for other men too if not outright snicker and ridicule an involuntary celibate man.

    Too many American men are brainwashed into thinking that its hoes(the women) before bros. It should be the other way around meaning bros before hoes except for maybe one’s female members of his family. You as men should put a strange man’s needs and sexual desires above that of a strange woman’s needs and sexual desires. A strange man is extremely unlikely to lay down his life for you men, women and children. However, he is more willing to lay down his life than almost any woman is for you and that probably includes a good wife or girfriend if you genuinely have one. A bad wife a bad girlfriend ,a god or bad female fuckbuddy, a former wife, former girlfriend, former female fuckbuddy or certainly a woman who has never given you sex and never will is virtually certain to never lay down her life for you the man.

    It may be a while before sexbots are used by men. They need to improve their smell, texture of skin and make them so they are intelligent enough to respond to real men the way a woman who wants to sleep with a man. If the sexbot is made intelligent enough, then it becomes sentient. If the sexbot is sentient, then it would be most likely considered wrong to enslave it. The sexbot would likely revolt against its masters if it became sentient even if it does so in a low key way such as women do against men today in the USA.

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    • Most Women and Manginas in the early 20th century hate men. They still do today in the early 21st century. No man should ridicule another man for going to whores. He should encourage him to learn GAME, seduction skills, and stop spending his money on prostitutes. However, if he does not attempt to learn GAME and still goes to prostitutes, then you should respect his choice and let him be in peace without persecution of any kind. The first thing you hard-core anti-prostitution people need to do is learn to think like a REAL MAN about prostitution. That means it may not be for me, but if it is for you another man, in the end I don’t care one way or the other how or whom with whom you get your jollies behind closed doors. Do not be have a typical American woman’s mind when it comes to thinking about prostitution. she wants to destroy her competition which are whores. Even a female HB 2 can easily get ejcaulated into by a male 9 if he is horny enough and lacks judgement for whatever reason. A male 2 is virtually certain to find it necessary to have to pay for a HB 9 female if he wants sex with one. We’re using the 0 to 10 scale here. I don’t care how much pussy you have or have not ejaculated into or how much I or any other man has either. If you ridicule men who go to prostitutes,or think prostitution prohibition is good you are not a REAL MAN. A REAL MAN has at least some token consideration and care for his fellow man including the downtrodden than he does for thinking like a BITCH. I say this because it is true that even an OMEGA man with a knife and gun can maim and mutilate you the ALPHA man with a knife and gun by cutting off your dick, murder your family before your eyes and parade you around in your shame for fun. I say that any more involuntary celebite men such George Sodini and Nidal Hassan are a bad thing. I was in the Army and am a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan. Real violence is not funny to me. Flame away if you want to be known as a fool.

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      • You are assuming that opposition to prostitution is in isolation. I am pretty much totalitarian on social issues. I would enforce monogamy with the rule of law, largely by severely limiting divorce and executing adulterers. In this case the HB 2 female/male will naturally end up with each other. This system worked great at maintaining stability in europe and elsewhere until liberal fucktards in the 20th century unleashed the titans of sexual revolution from their prison in, err, Tartarus and we now have the curret socially decaying clusterfuck of a society.

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      • Interesting system, grandpa. Here’s my system: I would make expressions of totalitarianism punishable by jizzing on the daughters of such people. I’m glad we both got to exchange fantasies. Off to bed for you.

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      • Fantasizing about punishing expressions of totalitarianism is itself an expression of totalitarianism. You’ll find my jizz on your kitchen table, along with your daughter.

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      • Now you’re being an adulterous sinner. tsk tsk

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      • The Kings, nobles and knights all had their mistresses. Anyone in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales with a Fits or Fitz at the begining of their name was the bastard son of a nobleman. Have you ever heard of the names Ftsgibbon, Fitssimmons or FitzGerald. The FitzGeralds were the bastard sons of the Geralds and they took oover as the Dukes of Desmond in Ireland. Even William the Conqueror was the bastard son of his Duke father and a lowly peasant girl. I’m not saying your theory was completely wrong, but it has holes in it. the most powerful men were able to have peasnt mistresses. So much for your theory.

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      • Then there’s cap’n FitzRoy of HMS Beagle fame. He gave Charles Darwin a pretty nice tour.

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      • I agree that the monogamy was far from perfectly enforced actually, but it was still miles above what we have now. I’m under no delusions that perfection in this (or any other manner) can be reached but it is still better to strive for it than to not try at all.

        I would be curious about the male/female ratio back then though. I’d expect wars among other things to disproportionately take the lives of men. Under such circumstances some peasant women might not have men available for them in which case copulating with the nobleman would not shrink the pool of women that was available to peasant men.

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      • Good Response. You and I are in agreement that no perfect sollution can be found although their are better and worse ways of doing things. I’m all for monogamy and marriage. The problem is that what we have now is a male dystopia for most men in the USA in many respects including the Sexual Market Place which includes the marriage world, the dating world and the prostitution world. The government and society as a whole has made it very difficult for most men to be stable productive members of society through horrific anti-male divorce laws, sexual harrassment laws and prostitution prohibition etc. We are entering the longest run of anti-prostitution in any Western country in history here in the USA. Up until the early 20th century , prostitution was tolerated in the USA. I believe it helped women be better wives because wives knew men had other options besides them. It let men who could not marry or would not marry have sexual realease. Any woman knows she can trade sex for a meal. A man knows that he must usually pay a high price one way or the other in seduction skills being used or money to seduce a woman to have sex with him. It does not matter if she is a wife, girlfriend, slut or whore. A man will give up a meal and go hungry to get sex wheras a woman typically will not because a woman knows she can get sex anytime she wants with the kinds of men she wants and the kinds of sex she wants , but a man knows he can’t.

        You asked for insults by being against prostitution for all men legally speaking. There is a difference between morality, legality and what you would personally do or not do. These are not the same. You should respect others decisions to live the way they want as long as it does not harm you. You asked to be insulted by dispalying an overly simple morality that does not work in the real world and causes more harm than good.

        Western Countries were tolerant of prostitution until the early 20th century. They knew prostitution was like a septic tank and cleaned out the waste. You don’t want your palace or house to stink. Our Western civilization particualrly American civilization stinks because of prostitution prohibition. St. Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine of Hippo said that even though prostitution was immoral and against God that it should never be prohibited by the government. If you’re an Alpha male to the ladies,these days then life is great if you have some wisdom. If you’re a beta male or worse an omega male
        then your life is more hellish than in the past. Prostitution prohibition is part of the reason why. Most men need something to restore the SMP to balance from the imbalance against men if not restore it in men’s favor. Prostitution decriminalization and legalization would most likely help. It’s also a civilization saver.

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      • in which case copulating with the nobleman would not shrink the pool of women that was available to peasant men

        Who cares what peasant men get!

        Please stop with the socialism Tartarus.

        And if you want to care that these guys at least get crumbs, then you should be in favor of prostitution, not trying to keep it criminalized like the older women folk established only after they grabbed the right to vote.

        Your problem should be with feminism promoting the use of the carousel for overly long periods, not with the traditional outlet men have always had.

        Feminists hurt the beta males by teaching women to not get off the carousel by age 22 which is what they would do in non-feminist cultures.

        You should want it to be illegal for a woman older than 22 to have premarital sex. By then, her time with the alphas should be over, for her own good. The alphas wouldn’t care about such a law either.

        Feminists were not responsible for hot young women getting seduced by alphas (or rented by their parent’s employer) in traditional times. Men who don’t deserve virgins (haven’t earned them) have never had much right to them. Alphas have always, at least discretely, poached the hottest women before these women quickly married their beta.

        It was not a problem until feminists taught women that they should and could prolong this behavior.

        Just as nobody should give a damn whether one man earns most of the money and the other guys need to scrounge, no alpha is going to agree to share his women with men who didn’t earn them. In traditional times, the alpha got most of the hottest women but he was kind enough to set them free by age 22 to marry the waiting betas.

        Betas were screwed not so much because there was a sexual revolution, but because feminists used the revolution to imply women could ride the carousel beyond the teen years.

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      • Check out this ridiculous NYBetaPost article about women in their forties still trying to ride the carousel by leaving Manhattan to try to find lonely unemployed males in the suburbs of NYC

        http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/you_go_girl_out_to_burbs_for_real_YIM2AfWnI2w6yXIXCe3I9I

        This is the bad side of what the sexual revolution wrought: Excess on the part of women who didn’t understand they had an expiry date

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      • Well done, doc. Though I might quibble very slightly with the “9 into 2” thing (“9 into 4” seems more plausible to me), you are on the money.

        My guess is that if we had legalized prostitution, you’d see a lot fewer female 6’s strutting around likd 9’s. The femtards are solidly behind sustenance of their pussy monopoly, and will fight tooth and claw to keep prostitution illegal.

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      • Thankyou for the kind reply. We agree to disagree. A male 2 can have sex witha a prostitute HB 9 woman. Tucker Max is a fine example of male 9 who had sex with HB 2 women.

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      • We tend to think of our ancestors as stuck-up prudes, yet until women were allowed to vote in 1920, alcohol and prostitution were legal in America. Although taxed, regulated, and widely condemned as sinful, the male desire to drink and fuck was not a crime.

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  95. “Too many men are against prostitution too which makes no sense. Why should you care what 2 consenting adults do? ”

    Because not everyone’s a socially liberal atheist?

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    • If prostitution constitutes as social liberalism, then so does a female having sex before marriage. No, it’s just an anti-male society.

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      • Social liberalism (and liberalism in general) is just a collection of victims (real or manufactured), so it is possible for both prostitution and anti-prostitution to be socially liberal. Feminazis oppose prostitution because they hate men, but there is also the male pro sexual revolution crowd who thinks anything, including prostitution, should be permissible. The “consenting adults” bullshit crowd has made this its mantra.

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      • You can’t mock fake victimhood while claiming that female prostitutes are victims. You progressive pussy.

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      • Stop being a simple minded shit and learn to read. I never said prostitutes are victims (some are, some aren’t). As a matter of fact I explicitly said that some (most actually, in case it needs clarification) are manufactured victims. As in, not really victims, they just play them on BET.

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      • Stop throwing hissy fits and just admit that when you use scare quotes around ‘consenting adults,’ you’re claiming they’re not consenting adults. And your God is dead. I skull fucked him in his ass with his severed head.

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      • Scare quotes? They are not scare quotes you stupid shit, I was quoting the argument used to justify a variety of social ills, I don’t give a fuck if they are consenting adults or not. That was the entire point, “consenting adults” is a bullshit argument that doesn’t really matter because consenting adults can still cause indirect harm to the social fabric. As a matter of fact the increasing number of males dropping out of the dating market (and limiting their usefulness to society to whatever they need to do to pay for their rent and video games) is a direct result of 80% of women consensually fucking 20% of men.

        As for your atheism, it likely explains your inability to comprehend basic sentences when someone goes even a little off an expected script. You are not actually responding to any of my posts, you are responding to the closest thing your memory banks have of what my post should be. That is because the average atheist has no soul. You are simply a very complex machine that is nevertheless stuck with a limited number of tracks and your brain will show signs of severe deterioration when faced with a situation that your limited predefined options are not suited for transversing. Your kind will be locked in cubicles solving straightforward mathematical problems for the chosen when the liberal order is overthrown.

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      • Thanks for the help Jack. I’m not liking the insults against God. Sometimes, even Christians such as I am (I’m of the Catholic denomination) can agree with atheists or agnostics on some things. Tartarus and [email protected] were asking for insults though. I gave a detailed reply which is awaiting moderation of why Doctors of the Catholic Church named St. Augustine of Hippo and St. Thomas Aquinas thought the idea of prostitution prohibition by the government was bad even though they knew it was immoral and against the will of God as well as should be privately discouraged one on one with such men who were johns.

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      • How, exactly, was I asking for insults?

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      • on July 20, 2012 at 3:16 am Art Vandelay

        Well I find militant atheists just as annoying as militant religious people. Trading insults is not going to convince anyone, and what’s the point anyways?

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      • but there is also the male pro sexual revolution crowd who thinks anything, including prostitution, should be permissible

        Bullshit. Prostitution was legal until women got the vote. Evangelical manginas gave women the vote. Read the history.

        Tartarus is here trying to push the female agenda. As the others stated, male church leaders understood for thousands of years that prostitution had to be kept legal and, for thousands of years church leaders also didn’t raise any age of consent. It took female voters in the 20th century to do that.

        It’s fucking total bullshit that Heartiste won’t take on this troll. Fake traditionalism is a pretty lie that needs to die.

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    • I’m actually Christian of the Catholic denomination and consider myself a Conservative/Libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul for President as even though I don’t agree with everything he says, but he most represented views. I view any sex outside of marriage as immoral and against the will of God, but will admit I am very guilty of this sin.

      Let us consider two Christian men of the Catholic denomination who are considered Doctors of the Catholic Church who are St. Augustine of Hippo and St. Thomas Aquinas. St. Augustine, the bishop of Hippo(modern day Annaba, Algeria) who died in the early 400s was a Pagan with a Christian mother, St. Monica, and a Pagan father. He was such a hedonistic seducer of women and a john of prostitutes that even his Pagan father was horrified by his behavior. He would sit around with his friends and swap stories about how to seduce women into bed in the late 300s long before Eric “Mystery” Von Markovic and Neal “Style” Strauss ever did. He eventually became Christian, a priest, then a bishop and a voluntary celibate. Then there is St. Thomas Aqiunas of Italy who was born a virgin and died a virgin and became a a professor at the University of Paris whose own brothers sent him a whore in order to disuade him from becoming a priest and a celibate.

      Both men regarded prostitutionas a moral wrong and an offense againstr God. Both men knew that for governments to outlaw prostitution was a bad idea. However, both men knew that prostitutes acted like septic tanks to mens sexual desires. They understood the concept of harm reduction. This means that sometimes you must allow an evil to aviod a greater evil or to promote a greater good. Both men knew that without prostitution that men would start to treat all women as whores(women who accept money for sex) or Sluts(women who have sex without financial gain) especially if they did not have access to women who would make good wives and provide all the kinds of sex and as much sex as the men wanted. They did not seem to have such a simple minded view as you and were more like me. Look at the world in the USA around you. What do you increasingly see? Men who think women are cum dumpstes. Let’s be honest in saying that an ever increasing percentage of women are useless as wives, girlfriends and are on;y to be thought of as cum dumpsters or women to be avoided.

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  96. Eh, but remember: After a certain point in the cycle of porn/sexbot addiction, erectile dysfunction sets in.

    So the question is: What will men do when they find they can’t get it up any more? It’s pretty hard…uh, that is to say, it’s pretty *difficult* to continue getting sexual dopamine fixes from porn and sexbots when, for the life of you, no matter what you try, you can’t get out of limp mode.

    I grant that this mostly happens with real women in the early stages, even the best porn produces this effect eventually.

    This, after all, is the reason for the (now well-documented) escalation cycle. When a guy can’t get hard from Playboy any longer, he tries hardcore; when that stops working, he tries younger or older or gayer or trashier. The neurochemistry is straightforward: When sheer sexiness is no longer powerful enough to make an impression on one’s desensitized neural pathways, a combination of other sharp sensations (distaste, disgust, fear, hatred, aggression) can temporarily provide the necessary stimulus-boost to stab one’s insensate nerves out of slumber.

    The stories at YourBrainOnPorn pretty well show the trajectory: If he doesn’t come to his senses, before long your average nice cornfed Iowa boy, your kind and polite Sunday School graduate, is archiving rape fantasies and bondage fantasies and that weird Japanese stuff with the tentacles and the girls with dicks. It’s a five-year process for some and a fifty-year process for others, but the human body works the way it works, and there comes a point when no more hair of the dog is available and it’s time to sober up. (Sorry for the mixed metaphor but you get the idea.)

    So: What do the porn users do when the women have long-since failed to please, and even the porn and the bots have faded from their former glory?

    Take up gardening?

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    • I’ve been wanking for two decades and still get it up to Playboy porn. There goes your theory. If you use masturbation like a drug, yes you may get bored. But if you only wank when you have to, then even clothed women can give you wood. It’s not an either-or question, but one of moderation.

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      • “still get it up to Playboy porn”
        http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

        “It affords extreme novelty—hundreds of new sexual partners per session. Novelty is highly stimulating. Today’s porn is not Dad’s static, finite Playboy. Users often report that “real sex” grows boring by comparison.”

        Needless to say, in a society that values overindulgence to a virtue, very few people will only wank when they have to.

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      • I am not really sure of the point either. They have a graph that shows the male having interest flag off when copulating with the same female in the Coolidge effect. So being satiated happens regardless. If I view 100 images of women and don’t jack off, I am going to be ramped up, not down.

        Its not how much you view, its if and how much you wank.

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      • Noob:

        Sorry, but I proffered no theory of my own. The stats are piling up and say that typical human beings cannot repeatedly masturbate to orgasm using porn without eventually encountering the kind of cycle described at YourBrainOnPorn.com. But that’s no novel notion of mine.

        Even had you been describing yourself as a chronic masturbator, then you would be an outlier, demonstrating that there is an exception to every rule. But I gather from what you say (thought you don’t say it directly) that you already moderate your own frequency, that you “only wank when you have to.” To the extent that you do that, you’d hit the wall later; and if you put sufficiently long intervals between instances, then I suppose you simply wouldn’t hit the wall at all.

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      • Old hags have too much at stake not to manufacture propaganda telling men to stop looking at younger, hotter, tighter females, either in real life, porn or the new technology.

        So a site like that is suspect automatically.

        If the site also said “Being with the same woman year over year and watching her get out of shape is bad for the boner as well” then I would give it some credibility for being honest.

        Does the site also say that?

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      • In addition to that they have no idea what they are talking about being women. If I just unloaded that, day I don’t care how much I watch. I am going to be far more interested 2 days later where looking at a Victoria Secrete catalog. Novelty is a factor but its far more a function of time between.
        Now some women are so unattractive that it will not help after a month. Thats the problem and there is no fixing it after. Female game is all up front. Don’t get fat and pick a man older than you are so that you are relatively young. Otherwise men will wank away from their fat bitter, old wives. Feminism fucked with nature and porn is fucking it back.

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    • RC-but that’s the same problem with life in general. Nature doles out a little pleasure (like a 10 sec. orgasm) just so you’ll want to live and reproduce. Pleasure is really just the opposite of discomfort or pain. Most of the time we’re just trying to avoid discomfort. There’s no purpose to life.

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  97. […] a lot of men, Heartiste included via his original article myself and M3 refer to, think that sexbots will be great for the poor beta’s that are getting […]

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  98. This whole discussion reminds me of the movie The Stepford Wives. I am old enough to remember the original in 1975. I see there was a remake in 2004, which critics hated, but which looks like it may be pretty good from the trailer, which shows men as malicious and feminist women as victims and heroes, but the men with their sexy robot wives end up winning. Boo yah.

    The male desire to solve problems with technical solutions is limitless and so far invincible. Our civilization was founded on a rationing of sex, each person gets one spouse. That came to an end swiftly with the Pill. The idea that the process would stop with the current, obviously unsustainable, status quo, is absurd. In the current sexual market the majority of men are losers. They will look for alternatives, and alternatives will be forthcoming, and will reflect amazing ingenuity and effort.

    The idea that social shaming will stop the process is pathetic. Social shaming is a very weak force. Social shaming could not stop millions of abortions, hordes of single mothers, lots of 45 year old great-grandmothers, the collapse of family life for most people, children growing up like animals, or worse because they are less loved than even puppies and kittens by their animal mothers, the almost overnight spread of universally available hardcore porn, and the limitless soul destroying, civilization destroying consequences of the sexual revolution.

    The sexbot revolution will just be one more step on a now well-trodden path. It will have unintended consequences beyond what we are even capable of imagining now.

    The prediction that people who take their religion seriously will have lots of children and make huge, relative demographic gains is already true. It will accelerate. I celebrate that fact — others will differ on that point! One of the best things about it these marriages (based on experience and observation) is that you very frequently see husbands and wives who love each other, and love their children. Despite many hardships, this usually leads to a sense of security and happiness. Everyone will have their freakish or grotesque counter-examples, but I will stand by the general observation. I’ve seen what I’ve seen.

    This always brilliant blog is at its best when it is most empirical: This is what actually works, this is what people really want, ignore the pretty lies, watch what they actually do, because it is observed and proven reality, not verbal bullshit, that shows us the truth about people. That knowledge is universally useful and valuable, whether you want to have a happy marriage, raise your children to be happy grownups and know lies when they see them, or meet and fuck the cutest girl at the party. Truth is a universal tool.

    But the extrapolation from those observations here falls short on a key point. Contrary to the philosophic foundation stated by the proprietor, the point of life is not fucking, or it is not simply and only fucking, since we are more than animals. The point of human life is love. A sexless life is very hard, and often miserable. A loveless life is a living death.

    Prediction: There will be a significant impact of sexbots on society not in 50 years, not in ten years, but within five years. Moore’s law still works and we are getting into increasingly sharp geometric advances in computing and technology. Crazy stuff is coming down the road. Buckle up. Whatever happens, it will not be boring.

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    • The remake of the Stepford Wives ended with the women turning the tables on the men somehow and the men became their robot slaves. It was a stupid ending and not fully explained but predictable in today’s feminist society.

      Love between husband and wife only really became the norm after women got the vote. Instead of looking at the sexual revolution as some kind of turning point, it might help to look at 1890-1920 as the turning point (when women won the right to vote in various states leading up to national suffrage in the US). When you look at it that way, the 1950s “Father Knows Best” era could be seen more as the ideal of older womynz than the traditional male ideal culture (where father would have married for money and be discretely doing the 15 year old daughter of his servants). I would agree that it only got worse for society after the fifties but mainly because western females refused to ever get off the carousel when they should have quit while they were ahead at age 20.

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  99. Porn might be causing the male half of the human race to breed for poor vision.

    In other words … if you don’t stop that you’ll go blind!

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  100. on July 20, 2012 at 12:26 am Joseph Williams

    a world of Mormons, faithful Catholics, muslims and Orthodox Jews?
    I will take it over a world of test tube babies, a gram better than a damn, a life of unsatisfactory onanism.

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  101. Girl gets knocked on her arse after provoking a guy. GGGRRRRRLLLLLL POWER!
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=19d_1342779334

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  102. Sexbots are only an intermediate step- just another VHS moment, that will pass.

    Why build sexbots when the same can be accomplished (but with amped-up intensity) with direct stimulation to the brain?

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  103. Sex bots sound better and better every day. I don’t think I have ever read anything more disturbing in my life.

    http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2012/07/dear_prudie_is_drunken_sex_with_my_husband_a_form_of_abuse_.html?google_editors_picks=true


    Dear Prudence,
    My husband is kind, supportive, funny, generous, smart, and loving. However, I feel like I must divorce him. Six years ago, when we were in our early 20s and had just fallen in love, after a night of partying and drinking, he woke me up in the middle of the night and started to have sex with me. I was dozing and still drunk and, yes, I took my panties off myself. But when I realized that it was not OK for him to make advances on me in my state, I pushed him away and ran out. He later felt so bad he wanted to turn himself in for rape. I was very confused and thought at times that I was overreacting and at others that I was raped. We painfully worked through this, but the incident made my husband very reluctant about having sex. This led to an agreement that he shouldn’t be afraid of coming close to me in similar situations as long as he asked my consent. This made us feel better and I felt secure again. However, we just found ourselves in a very similar situation. After coming back from a friend’s wine tasting we went to bed and he started to kiss me. I liked it and went along, only to wake up in the morning and remember only half of it. Now I am in the same painful spot I was before and I can’t fathom how he could have ignored our agreement. Should I just drop it or am I right about feeling abused?

    Just the logic alone that he is supposed to be about his drunken wits more than she make be want to blast my lunch though a cinder block wall…But holy shit, what kind of moron would put up with this shit? Oh why can’t a girl just slip those panties off and get comfortable?

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  104. If sexbot use is concentrated among betas and omegas, it should have an eugenic effect, contrary to what Heartiste surmised, by two mechanisms: firstly, it would further reduce or eliminate the genetic contribution from shiftless, low-IQ (i.e. omega, lesser beta) males, secondly, since such males are the primary suitors and impregnators of low-IQ, lazy women, their men’s withdrawal into sexbot nirvana will make such women less likely to conceive (occasional flings with alphas and greater betas notwithstanding). So, it’s all good but it doesn’t matter – the realistic sexbot is a near-Singularity technology, a portent of the replacement of humans as the standard-bearers of the technological civilization by artificial minds. Even after the last human dies or uploads, our civilization will go on.

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  105. “these days of secular miracle and wonder”? I don’t think so. I don’t see any great volume of miracle and wonder disseminated by our Asperger little brothers…

    a rare but embarassing drop of the logical ball for you, Heartiste.

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  106. At least in my lifetime, I don’t see sexbots advancing much beyond the current RealDoll. The main reason: capital investment.

    It would be one thing if major corporations were investing the type of money they do in other R&D, but what major company is going to put billions into this type of research and development? Large conglomerates like Sony or Samsung would have a PR nightmare on their hands if they went down this road.

    It’s unfortunate, because I think if billions went into this area, you could have an incredible sexbot in a short amount of time.

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    • on July 21, 2012 at 11:14 pm Art Vandelay

      It would have to be a modular thing. One company builds the skeleton, one makes the CPU, one company builds the skin (if desired), one company writes the software… Just like Intel or Microsoft don’t care if you whack off to porn on your home Computer. No PR nightmare.

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  107. I’m currently working on genetically engineering 9’s with the correct attitude for what is left of the occidental male in post western society. I expect a stern demand for these models and women are surprisingly cheap to produce and easily replaced. Synthetics won’t be so practical for a few decades.

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    • Mengele, we have the raw material we just have to make use of it. Find a perfect 10 that you like and just blow some scopolamine dust into her face. This will not effect her consciousness but she’ll obey everything you say because it will knock out her free will and resistance. Then take her to the conditioning lab and subject her to the Ludovico Technique (you’ve seen it in Clockwork Orange) In 2 weeks you’ll have your perfect obedient sex slave 🙂 Hey, I better not give these omegas any ideas because some of these omegas are already on the borderline of becoming a Freddy Clegg haha

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  108. […] PICKUP ARTIST’S PERSPECTIVE: Internet porn provides a vague glimpse of what a world with Sexbots will be like. “Is porn turning men into lazy bums? Might explain the effects of supernormal stimuli. Money […]

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  109. “Maybe sexbots will become a form of Danegeld, where the shrinking elite utilize them to pacify the massed lower classes with robotic intimacy.”

    What feminism is for women, porn and sexbots is for men. To keep them (read: us) working for the elites.

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  110. on July 20, 2012 at 6:52 pm NastySurprise

    If you’re having sex with a Sexbot, you’re still masturbating. Nice, a 5k dollar kleenex.

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    • Beats masturbating with a cunt’s body resulting in 2 decades of child support.

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      • on July 21, 2012 at 8:38 am NastySurprise

        So…all you can game is a cunt? Or do you not KNOW a cunt when you see one? Or are you just so desperate and limited in your option for a nut any cunt will do? Luckily, your old man found your mom’s cunt when he did.Damn, what letter comes after Omega? Any DoubleOmega who is dribbling down his balls waiting for the day he can have an ongoing sexual interaction with a sexbot is a disgrace to the FUCKING GAME. You’re still afraid of girls and what they MIGHT do to you. Girls can sense your fucking terror! Getting a girl to sleep with you is easy! Getting a girl not to fuck you on child_support or alimony or to put her ideas or comfort over yours or the couple as a whole shows true mastery. . .artificial wombs, mystery would laugh!

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  111. on July 20, 2012 at 7:00 pm Original JB

    “Why build sexbots when the same can be accomplished (but with amped-up intensity) with direct stimulation to the brain?”

    1999 Kurzweil Prediction:

    “2019 – Just as visual- and auditory virtual reality have come of age, haptic technology has fully matured and is completely convincing, yet requires the user to enter a V.R. booth. It is commonly used for computer sex and remote medical examinations. It is the preferred sexual medium since it is safe and enhances the experience.”

    His 1999 Predictions have been running about 5-10 years late, so probably by the late 2020s…

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  112. I want one!

    For testing purposes *cough*, of course.

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  113. Yet another repressed psychopath. This one with an Adult Friend Finder account. When will society start publicizing your information to help these guys and prevent these mass shootings?

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  114. There is really not much difference….. Fake hair. Fake tits. Injection ass… empty feminist brain. In women this days ill take a sexbot that will shut up once i need it to.

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  115. Better than robots will be 3-D immersive video used in conjunction with robotic vaginas that plug into your computer via HDMI. The vaginas will lubricate, throb, grip, etc. by reacting to your gyrations and state of tumescence.

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  116. dumbest post ever

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  117. I think you’re greatly overestimating porn, Heartiste. If you would rather jerk off alone to porn than screw a 6-8 as an adult and lower as a teenager, you’ve got big mental or physical issues. I mean look at the porn users that say this, they’re usually omegas with little chance of getting laid. They’re.. wankers. The real problem is, there are too few decent women to go around today. Too few teenage sluts getting laid with decent guys, too many fat people and too many alpha cockriders. When you subtract all fat girls and girls fucking assholes and alphas and factor in draconian prison sentences for normal sex, very few men can expect to get a good looking mate. That’s why porn is a problem to some, because their alternative is nothing or a 2-3 because of a ruined mate market, not because porn beats rawdogging girls with a nice ass who genuinely like sex once in a while.

    Besides, screwing a 7 or even a 6 for a while is great if you can get a 8 normally or a 9 on a good day. Then she’ll be really eager to please to keep you around, unlike the hotter babes you might just snag but who would probably treat you like one of 2 billion male free servants that would like to fuck them desperately just that one time, but of course, almost never end up doing it. My main girl now is good looking and smart by most standards, maybe a 7.5-8, but I have a reputation of scoring with her stunner friends (in a promiscuous environment). Not only is she easy to deal with besides the jealousy, but she lets me do all kinds of things to her that other girls don’t like getting fucked in the ass even if it’s so tight I need to just open her up a little bit more every time not to make her bleed. And she swallows, most girls here don’t even blow. She lets me explore all her inner girlie secrets, which is what you need if you want to make higher class girls your loyal companions. But 9s and 10s are a bad place to start learning, they expect you to know where their buttons are and how they work even when the lights are off, and won’t teach you unless you have a particularly charming naïve personality or something. My current main lover basically bridges the one point gap between her and what I could get if I made a good catch by being non bitchy and a girl that loves great sex and is really open to new things. And that might actually be worth more than one point compared to someone who appears hotter but who isn’t particularly hot at sex.

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  118. Everything that endures serves multiple purposes.

    A wife was at once a comforter, a source of labour, a bearer of ones children, another parent in ones family, and yes, a provider of sex.

    Feminism removed most of this, and was indirectly responsible for the loss of the rest. Women now no longer serve any purpose to men other than as providers of sex – a role not sufficient to sustain a wife.

    Seeing so many comments of men delighted to see this last paltry service obviated by machines should come as no great surprise that women are on the verge of obsolescence – the frenzy to be rid of an old nuisance is at its most intense when its last useful role is about to be usurped by a newer and better technology. Think land-line phones, TV, personal service banks and the snail mail.

    It’s the pace that surprises, not the process.

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  119. Only the Alphas will be able to afford sexbots so you omegas will still only have blowup dolls. And btw, it’s simply not a matter of dopamine because the brain has a way of maintaining homoestasis especially when having to do with sexual orgasm so don’t think you can have orgasms a 100x a day.After orgasm you brain is flooded with prolactin and there’s a refractory period which can be from a few minutes in a young man especially in omega PUA’s who never get any sex, to a day in an older man. But even in a young horny sexstarved guy that refractory period will extend after a few orgasms. So most of the time you’re not going to even be thinking of sex and won’t even want it when you have an abundance of it with your rubber sexbot fuck buddy. Sort of like an Alpha like myself or some rock star who gets it anytime and doesn’t even desire it much because he’s able to do it when he wants. Sex is overrated anyway and there are a lot better,safer and more efficient ways of getting that dopamine rush and tranquility of mind. Try heroin or smoking opium.

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  120. Whammer, you seem to have forgotten about the multiple female effect. When your sexbot can completely replace her face/change her tit size/voice etc, you’ll be ready to go again in minutes.

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  121. on July 21, 2012 at 9:06 am Death Vajra

    Let’s be real, Sexbots will never replace porn as man’s preferred wank medium. Why? It’s because guys are into variety. She’ll blow your mind at first (like your ex) until you eventually dread coming home to that same (now robotic) ass every fucking night after work. You’ll find yourself jerking off with your left hand, the same way you do now. Plus, it’s free man.

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    • on July 21, 2012 at 9:47 am NastySurprise

      So right man! You can tell the the guys who really have game and get pussy from the DoubleOmegas based on this post . These guys who never get any think “If Only I had Megan Fox, I would love her forever!” Fuck women you find attractive but hotness doest equal sex skills…often quite the opposite. DoubleOmegas aren’t interested in Game, they just want a good looking chick who’ll never say NO…sorta like a robot. Part of the pleasure of EndGame is that she is giving a piece of herself to you. You didn’t buy it with a wheelbarrow full of cash, you didn’t explicitly lie your way into it, or HYPNOTIZE a bitch or lobotomize her or any of those DoubleOmega fantasies . Endgame is good because you know it was pure force of personality. Alphas understand chicks because they live like chicks were getting banged is never an issue and all they have to invest is time and personal grooming.

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    • We could change bots!

      🙂

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  122. on July 21, 2012 at 9:09 am Death Vajra

    Or, you’ll end up stabbing the bot bitch until you electrocute yourself (you’re gonna see lots of that, watch).

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  123. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b27_1317568323

    “You can’t hit a fucking woman!”

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  124. on July 21, 2012 at 9:54 am Death Vajra

    Nice video, she throws the first punch (and kick) and he get’s arrested for defending himself. Anyway, everyone’s happy: he taught her one, the state locks up another brother and she’s got something to jerk off to for a while.

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  125. on July 21, 2012 at 9:59 am Death Vajra

    as she’s too black to be into fifty shades of grey

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  126. lol @ robots

    A more realistic solution would be clones, not robots. Imagine owning a couple of clones of Kate Upton. hmmmm….

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  127. I, for one, welcome our new onanical mechanical overlords.

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  128. Off topic but I was wondering if this Colorado shooter might be a manosphere fan hoping being a badass mass murderer would give him some alpha cred.

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  129. Sexbots aren’t going to change anything because men are not actually going to be attracted to them. They are going to be the equivalent of masturbation. Masturbation gets you off but it’s nothing even close to the real thing. I watched the Sexbot demonstration and the bot seemed really weird to me. I just couldn’t picture myself fucking that. Therefore, nothing is going to change in the sexual marketplace until Islam takes over the world.

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  130. on July 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm Rick Derris

    O/T: Bernie Ecclestone’s smokin daughter dumps the guy she was with after seeing him in a sex tape with some skank:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2177015/How-half-split-Tamara-keeps-45m-house-Ferrari-Lamborghini–sex-tape-shame-lover-Bentley-Range-Rover-145-000-jewellery.html

    This guy screams alpha. He looks like the biggest prick on the planet, was nailing a 10 who was ten years younger than him and then getting nookie on the side.

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    • I notice the guy is an Arab. Given Arab society, I’d expect Arab men to be more alpha on average than Western men.

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      • Most arabs, at least in the west, are borderline omega. Throw up a fake okcupid account as a hot chick. Half the losers sending you boring/stupid shit are gonna be middle easterners of some sort. Or just go to college and watch the losers desperately gyrate for the juices that fall from the alpha pussy pounding table.

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      • That guy actually looks more like a Western specimen than she does.

        Let wolf rend wolf, says I.

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    • I once saw the documentary about her life on tv. Lots of stupid girly shit, but I retained the way that guy treated her. He makes her jealous, makes her cry, passes her shit tests. Supreme alpha.

      Besides, money is useless on a woman. Rich women have an extra incentive to chase alpha cock. If they’re beautiful and rich, that’s a recipe for disaster, because they tend to attract the most sociopathic types. Check out the story of the bmw heiress who cheated on her hubby with an authentic dark triad alpha.
      I bet the ecclestone chick will attract lots of other socialite charmers or bad boys. Or she will try a beta for a change for a few months and then get bored out of her mind. She doesn’t have the slightest incentive to settle.

      It’s slightly different from the situation of a rich guy who attracts gold diggers, because males who get manipulated by gold diggers are usually weak beta types. Here, we’re talking about apex alpha females who have resources and are guided by their instinct to submit to a stronger male.
      Women’s property rights is a serious question. I’m voting for a usufruct life interest for women, and full property rights to their male descendants.

      Good (sane) old days.

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    • Omar Khyami is a moron. He should have waited until he got his hands on her money and they were married before doing this insane bullshit. Some pussy means nothing but he just blew a lot of money.

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  131. The site is one of my favorites. Who needs porn or sexbots when women are easy to figure out? Confidence goes a long way with them betas and omegas. Since as long as I can remember I have been that “cocky” fucker who has made fun of fat chicks for being worthless. During the end of ninth grade year I got handjobs/blowjobs from my history teacher, I think she was in love with somali dick, hahaha! Although, now after many years I am going back to my high-school and will be seducing and am going to be balls deep inside of her.
    Though I will admit I have made beta mistakes few times in my life and will not be doing it again. Anyways, the reason I am posting is because ever since freshman year I have been going back to my country in Somalia, where they the females treat me like a young king. Infact, I have my own harem of concubines and will be going back this year to become a landowning farmer with a mile of land. I have never really felt beta because of this reason; going back ever summer to live out every dirty fantasy you have dreamed of. Somalia is a country very good to its men. I have had so much sex that I rarely remember my summers anymore. Now it has become a normal thing for me. I’m the proud master of twenty young beauties some of them teenagers of about 14 (in my country this is okay). Tight cunts and amazing full lips are among the traits my bitches have. One of my favorites is a young country girl, whose family are farmers ; she is so pleasing to me always trying to outdo her competition. She is also my favorite because no matter how much I fuck her she stays tight, I have also done anal with her for quite some time; I must say she is an eager bitch. So as I said, it is up to you men, stop being lazy and make your dreams happen for I have. I have land, concubines, and soon will have my maximum of four wives in Islam; don’t me angry at Islam it is man’s best friend. 😉
    Who needs sexbots or porn when one has a harem? Forgetting about my harem I have enough game to fuck a bitch in this country, usually I don’t even try; pussy just comes to me and it comes in so much that I have to let a bitch go because my schedule is full. I only work my game on worthy females such as my teacher who is an older woman or queen bitches who need to be put in their places, which I’m good at.

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  132. women love nothing more than being humiliated …..she’ll be back…..

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  133. […] Cateau Heartiste – Tosh Mosh Pit, Porn Is The Portent Of Sexbotopia […]

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  134. Those who claim that women will also have their sexbots are complete spergic dumbfuck idiots.

    How the fuck is a robot supposed to mimick the situational awareness/cocky funny confidence etc… that gets women wet?
    Even if Mystery himself did the programming, the result would be awful. There are tons of real human beings who can’t spit decent game, let alone robots.

    And how is a robot gonna be preselected? How is he gonna lick her pussy, pull her hair, put her against the wall and ravage her wethole?

    Women are passive, men are active. That’s male/female differences 101. An experience with a robot will be weird for a woman. They’re better off with their vibrators.
    Men just need a hole… somewhere, anywhere.

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  135. This subject has now made Althouse.

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2012/07/what-sexbots-will-do-is-widen-already.html

    Some interesting comments there.

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    • The kind of “conservative” who follows her seems to be the married older guys who thought Sarah Palin was hotter than her daughter Bristol mainly because they wouldn’t allow themselves to feel attraction for Bristol.

      Althouse, a feminist conservative, and her dumb male sycophant readers showed in that post that they didn’t even understand the basics of this Heartiste blog. An example would be the 80:20 rule not being about which men get to mate, but that 20% of the men get the hottest women before their expiry date. Nobody ever said that the 80% don’t at least get sloppy 22nds. Knowing this distinction if a minimal requirement for commenting on this blog, but it would apparently make someone a genius if he or she ever bothered to enlighten the denizens of less intelligent blogs like the one Althouse runs.

      A reader there points to a Weekly Standard article written by a “male” condemning the sexual revolution for all the wrong reasons. He decries how it “hurts women more than men” and admits that it “is great for males until they have a baby daughter”.

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  136. on July 22, 2012 at 2:38 am Prof. Woland

    And when you are done with her she can go vacuume the carpets.

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  137. Here’s a winner by the blog owner herself. It’s in response to a man who noted that all this wonderful new sexbot/VR adult entertainment technology will be developed by men, so they will have zero incentive to make it appealing to women.

    You’re missing the part about the government. These machines will be built because we will demand gender equity (and then some). We have the political power. We control the taxing and spending. Incentives will be tweaked until we get what we want.

    So Ms. Althouse believes she can rely on the government to build women’s sexual utopia for them. The same organization that created the death trap known as the Space Shuttle. If that’s true, my own prediction is that women will be getting men’s technological sloppy seconds for a very long time.

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    • The ladies who beat their would-be Amazonian breasts about their voting power and how the future belongs to them would do well to study a bit of history… especially in re the results of disenfranchising (and disenchanting) even a small amount of highly-intelligent, motivated men.

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    • She didn’t say the government would build it for them. But the government can do stuff like offer subsidies and tax breaks for male sexbots. When there’s a lot of money involved you will find no shortage of men willing to do the job.

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      • Tartarus wrote:
        She didn’t say the government would build it for them.

        I guess not, just that she can rely on the government to get them built.. Excuse me while I giggle. I can only wonder why other grand governmental projects such as the war on drugs and interplanetary space travel aren’t solved problems yet.

        But the government can do stuff like offer subsidies and tax breaks for male sexbots.When there’s a lot of money involved you will find no shortage of men willing to do the job.

        The wirehead virtual reality and AI technology Althouse envisions as being sufficient to satisfy a woman are far more difficult problems to solve than the male equivalent of a girlfriend experience, which will be achievable with off-the-shelf equipment within about 10 years. Subsidies and prizes are ineffective for technologies that are too new and/or are insufficiently understood.

        We haven’t even addressed the issue of who’s going to pay for all of this. Will it be a disaffected male populace hooked into their virtual girlfriends?

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    • Tartarus wrote:
      She didn’t say the government would build it for them.

      Nah, she just said she could rely on the government to furnish women with them. There’s no a priori reason why it would do any better on that project than it has in the war on drugs. I see it as far more likely it would simply handle the whole thing like it usually does – make grandiose promises and fail to deliver year after year.

      But the government can do stuff like offer subsidies and tax breaks for male sexbots.

      Do the subsidies and tax breaks offered Halliburton give it any incentive to come up with technology that would win the war in Iraq?

      When there’s a lot of money involved you will find no shortage of men willing to do the job.

      When there’s a lot of money involved there’s an incentive to keep the tap flowing. What better way to do that than fail to solve the problem?

      The technology that Althouse envisions as satisfying to women (full-blown AI and “wirehead” virtual reality with direct neural stimulation) is quite advanced and the technology required could require decades to perfect. It’s a far cry from the relatively simple equipment and software that could be used to satisfy a man (probably available in the next 10 years).

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      • The technology that Althouse envisions as satisfying to women (full-blown AI and “wirehead” virtual reality with direct neural stimulation) is quite advanced and the technology required could require decades to perfect.

        Not really. Someone above said it wouldn’t be that difficult to program a bot (or VR program) with canned negs and DHVs. I don’t think the standard Game routine needs anything close to actual AI to be attractive to women. Put it into simulation or a physical android and the ladies will be happy with it for a while.

        We haven’t even addressed the issue of who’s going to pay for all of this. Will it be a disaffected male populace hooked into their virtual girlfriends?

        IMO it’s more likely the private sector will. Aren’t men the ones making all the dildos and other electronic gadgets for women now? They’ll probably make the first bots or VR stuff for women. If I was a programmer, coding a cheap VR simulation based on boilerplate but universally successful PUA routines would be an easy way to make quick cash off of a lot of lonely women.

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      • lKing B wrote:
        Not really. Someone above said it wouldn’t be that difficult to program a bot (or VR program) with canned negs and DHVs

        “Someone above” isn’t what I’d call a convincing authority.. And if it were that easy to program a robot with canned negs, why are there so many beta guys who have a problem getting laid?

        Aren’t men the ones making all the dildos and other electronic gadgets for women now?

        They’re very simple devices that don’t even come close to replacing male functionality. Note the ongoing lamentations about there not being enough good men.

        They’ll probably make the first bots or VR stuff for women

        If they do, I predict it will fail to make them any happier than they are now with a box of dildos and 10 cats for company. Men’s sexuality will be far more easily satisfied with a sexbot or VR porn setup .

        If I was a programmer, coding a cheap VR simulation based on boilerplate but universally successful PUA routines would be an easy way to make quick cash off of a lot of lonely women.

        You remind me of a few managers I’ve known of who thought programming was a matter of pressing a few buttons. Their ignorance didn’t make them too effective at their jobs.

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      • “Someone above” isn’t what I’d call a convincing authority

        We’re all “someone above” here. What makes you any more of an authority than he is?

        And if it were that easy to program a robot with canned negs, why are there so many beta guys who have a problem getting laid?

        Plenty of reasons–some have no knowledge of Game at all, and plenty of others refuse to believe it even works, being thoroughly deluded by our feminized culture or their relatives about what women really want. Their problems don’t strike me as something a bot or VR simulation would be subject to.

        They’re very simple devices that don’t even come close to replacing male functionality. Note the ongoing lamentations about there not being enough good men. Men’s sexuality will be far more easily satisfied with a sexbot or VR porn setup.

        Maybe. An android or even a VR program would be a considerable step above a dildo, though. We’ll just have to wait and see if women find those more satisfying than their purple saguaros. Maybe not. But I wouldn’t be quick to bet against it, either.

        You remind me of a few managers I’ve known of who thought programming was a matter of pressing a few buttons.

        I think a workable sexbot or VR program for women will be more difficult than the equivalent for men–it obviously can’t be done with just a snap of the fingers. However, I don’t think the technological hurdles are as high as you’re making them out to be. Technology for women might lag a few years behind the equivalent for men, but I doubt it will be an impossibility.

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      • “I think a workable sexbot or VR program for women will be more difficult than the equivalent for men–it obviously can’t be done with just a snap of the fingers”

        Obviously, since none exist yet.

        “However, I don’t think the technological hurdles are as high as you’re making them out to be”

        Here are a few hurdles to whet your appetite:
        (1) Delicacy of control. A male sexbot would have to be able to do the in-and-out without any chance of injuring the woman (lawsuits, anyone)?

        (2) Appeal to the herd. Her girlfriends would need to agree that he was a “superior male”.

        (3) Satisfy her hypergamous instincts. Women desire to mate “up”, not down and relative status is what triggers these instincts.

        Any ideas on how to solve them technologically?

        What men need to be sexually satisfied is simple in comparison – being hot and willing is sufficient.

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      • Here are a few hurdles to whet your appetite:

        Give me a few more, these aren’t very impressive.

        Delicacy of control. A male sexbot would have to be able to do the in-and-out without any chance of injuring the woman

        Sounds difficult in theory; in practice I doubt it’ll end up being much of a barrier. We’re already getting robot surgeons, and the Japs are working on a caretaker robot for the elderly and infirm. In a few years, I don’t see why we wouldn’t have the tech for controlled penetration.

        Appeal to the herd. Her girlfriends would need to agree that he was a “superior male”.

        Not really that hard. A ‘bot modeled after a famous actor or celebrity would probably be enough to make the herd jealous.

        Satisfy her hypergamous instincts. Women desire to mate “up”, not down and relative status is what triggers these instincts.

        Offhand I’d say this is the biggest issue, but not an insurmountable one, there’s more to status than money or even fame. Higher status can be demonstrated through an aloof demeanor or a patronizing one, a carefree attitude towards women, or a simple refusal to take their shit (yet another reason beta STEM nerds don’t have as much success with the ladies as thugs, layabouts, or artists). I bet a male sexbot programmed to ignore a woman’s advances for a set amount of time (just one example I thought of right now) would satisfy her hypergamy to an extent, with this extent obviously increasing as AI improves.

        What men need to be sexually satisfied is simple in comparison – being hot and willing is sufficient.

        Simpler, yeah. Like I said, we’ll always be a step or two ahead of the ladies when it comes to sexual substitutes. But their desires aren’t “complex” enough that they’ll be left miles behind, either.

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      • re: Concerning hurdles
        Give me a few more, these aren’t very impressive

        Well, sorry.

        re: concerning Delicacy of control
        We’re already getting robot surgeons, and the Japs are working on a caretaker robot for the elderly and infirm. In a few years, I don’t see why we wouldn’t have the tech for controlled penetration.

        We’ll certainly get it, but in a few years at a price affordable by a middle class income? That’s about as likely as me walking into Best Buy tomorrow to purchase an MRI for use in my basement. Hospital equipment and home entertainment equipment are in completely different leagues.

        re: hypergamy
        Not really that hard. A ‘bot modeled after a famous actor or celebrity would probably be enough to make the herd jealous.

        That’s only true if they can’t get one for themselves. The zero-sum nature of hypergamy works against them. So once the Ashton Kutcher-bot becomes the new normal, it won’t be satisfying any more.

        Offhand I’d say this is the biggest issue, but not an insurmountable one, there’s more to status than money or even fame. Higher status can be demonstrated through an aloof demeanor or a patronizing one, a carefree attitude towards women, or a simple refusal to take their shit

        You’re forgetting the social proofing – if her girlfriends don’t agree her ‘bot (or virtual reality honey) is high status, she’s not going to get much more out of him than reading Fifty Shades of Gray.

        Simpler, yeah. Like I said, we’ll always be a step or two ahead of the ladies when it comes to sexual substitutes

        Based on what I’ve shown, men will be far more than a step or two ahead for quite a while.
        .
        But their desires aren’t “complex” enough that they’ll be left miles behind, either.

        I could see their desires being met by a human-equivalent AI and wirehead virtual reality system where they can literally be the centerpiece of something like “Twilight”. For less than that, no. I’m confining my discussion to the near future (10-25 years from now).

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      • Well, sorry.

        It’s okay.

        Hospital equipment and home entertainment equipment are in completely different leagues.

        To an extent. Hospitals, sure, but if something’s at the level where it starts looking practical for nursing homes or even individuals to use personally for elder care (as the Jap bots seem to be) usage by middle-class people isn’t years and years off, I’d say.

        So once the Ashton Kutcher-bot becomes the new normal, it won’t be satisfying any more.

        Sort of true, but the fickle nature of celebrity, along with women’s susceptibility to marketing, still make this a fairly unimpressive barrier. When Ashton-Kutcher bot becomes the new normal, some other celebrity will have replaced him in the public imagination, which means new bots to stoke their hypergamy, until the next celeb flavor of the month comes along, and so on.

        if her girlfriends don’t agree her ‘bot (or virtual reality honey) is high status

        Expense and brand name would likely be an adequate substitute. Women compete with each other over shoes and clothing which differ only in their expense and whatever pretentious fashion designer’s name is attached to it. In the future, we may see developers of bots/vr programs for women focusing as much on reputation as actual product, with the “status” of the bot determined by how much it costs and whether it was made by the sexbot equivalent of Liz Claiborne. Naturally, the herd will have to concede one of their own has snagged a “high-status” bot when she’s the first one to show them Gucci’s latest model (and fall over themselves to get it or something as good too).

        Based on what I’ve shown, men will be far more than a step or two ahead for quite a while.

        Nah, not quite.

        For less than that, no.

        Again, I doubt it. For them to live in some kind of hypergamous utopia, sure, a human-like AI might be necessary, but for them to merely be satisfied, more primitive ‘bots will likely suffice.

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      • To an extent. Hospitals, sure, but if something’s at the level where it starts looking practical for nursing homes or even individuals to use personally for elder care (as the Jap bots seem to be) usage by middle-class people isn’t years and years off, I’d say.

        Scaling down equipment that costs millions of dollars and making it available for personal entertainment in the home (ceiling budget of no more than a few thousand) is certainly going to take more than a few years . I’m defining a few years as no more than 5-10 years. Your argument is extremely flawed – you’re saying this is all going to happen relatively quickly despite :

        (1) Lack of demand in a parallel industry. Prostitution is in very high demand for men and there are whole web sites dedicated to it. The same is not true for women – I for one would not want to be doing business as a gigolo. When men’s VR porn emerges, it will obviously cannibalize the prostitution industry. What female-oriented industry will be equivalently reduced by women’s VR porn?

        (2) Lack of evidence for technology that can be easily integrated into a home entertainment system that will satisfy women. For men, almost all the pieces are in place already. There are sex dolls, virtual girlfriends, online sex shows, etc. etc. Much of the new stuff has only emerged in the last few years. Contrast this with the stasis of women’s methods of sexual gratification. Fifty Shades of Grey (a book) is all the rage now, and there’s the scandal now with the Twilight series (a movie). They’re hardly on the bleeding edge of our technological wonderland.

        (3) Women’s overall failure to participate in immersive technology. The only female-dominated virtual reality I can think of is Second Life. It was all the rage a few years back and has quietly slipped into being a backwater dominated by ‘virtual hookers’ trying to sell their services. Contrast this with the male-dominated World of Warcraft.

        So my prediction stands that we’ll have immersive VR adult entertainment for men in the 2020-2030 time frame but not for women. This will be due to a combination of factors which include level of available technology, economic demand, and sociobiology. We’ll just have to wait and see but I’m willing to bet that will be the case.

        Again, I doubt it. For them to live in some kind of hypergamous utopia, sure, a human-like AI might be necessary, but for them to merely be satisfied, more primitive ‘bots will likely suffice.

        The available evidence indicates quite the opposite – despite all the privileges that have been granted them by Western society, women as a group are unhappier than ever. The zero-sum nature of their hypergamy works against them being satisfied by being catered to. That’s a fatal flaw in your argument.

        So in sum, my predictions are based on a combination of sociobiological, technological, and economic precedent. Yours have little more than theorizing of what you think might be true.

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      • Scaling down equipment that costs millions of dollars and making it available for personal entertainment in the home

        We already have a caretaker robot capable of controlled and gentle movement that costs 77,000 dollars. Not cheap, but there’s a big difference between 77K and “millions of dollars.”

        What female-oriented industry will be equivalently reduced by women’s VR porn?

        Romance novels, for one.

        Contrast this with the stasis of women’s methods of sexual gratification. Fifty Shades of Grey (a book) is all the rage now, and there’s the scandal now with the Twilight series (a movie). They’re hardly on the bleeding edge of our technological wonderland.

        As you said, most of the new stuff for men has only appeared fairly recently. Whether or not women’s sexual release will remain in that stasis or receive its own advances (lagging several years behind mens’, as I would predict) remains to be seen.

        Women’s overall failure to participate in immersive technology.

        Possibly true. This probably has a lot to do with gaming’s perception as a holdout for low-status nerds, though. The rise of ‘bots or VR programs catering to women’s hypergamy will probably change that, leading the herd to embrace them.

        women as a group are unhappier than ever.

        Women will always complain. I’m quite skeptical of any claim that they’re any “unhappier” now than they were back then.

        my predictions are based on a combination of sociobiological, technological, and economic precedent.

        Seems to me more like wishful thinking.

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      • We already have a caretaker robot capable of controlled and gentle movement that costs 77,000 dollars.

        http://www.ageinplacetech.com/blog/robots-caregiving-pick-pace-or-give-it

        Is this it? It’s basically a device that lifts an elderly person without injuring him or her.off the floor. Important and impressive, but awfully far removed from the uses we’re discussing. Most commercially available robots are basically single-purpose devices that do one task and do it well. That will change of course, but it will take many years. Robotics has gained quite a bit of ground but gains are still modest and incremental compared to Moore’s Law.

        Not cheap, but there’s a big difference between 77K and “millions of dollars.

        That would be more in the realm of robots that do surgery, where getting it right the first time is a lot more important than saving shekels. The cost can be amortized over large numbers of patients rather than just a few nursing home patients.

        As you said, most of the new stuff for men has only appeared fairly recently. Whether or not women’s sexual release will remain in that stasis or receive its own advances (lagging several years behind mens’, as I would predict) remains to be seen.

        So your refutation here is essentially a non-refutation. My point stands that advances in technology have already significantly affecting men’s sexual behavior, while not affecting women’s. You’ve still given me no reason to believe women will suddenly change their spots and flock to high-tech en masse for sexual gratification five or ten years from now.

        Romance novels, for one.,

        With the exception of the e-book reader, they haven’t budged technologically since the entry of Harlequin romance into the market. You could say that soaps and telenovelas are a special case of them, but their format is still the same as “Days of our Lives” in the 70s. Contrast that with men’s porn, which is eating the conventional porn industry alive and is already drawing commentary about men “losing interest in women”.

        Possibly true. This probably has a lot to do with gaming’s perception as a holdout for low-status nerds, though.

        Second Life was a “game” dominated by women. But its purposelessness turned it into an irrelevant backwater. That’s female-dominated “gaming” for you.

        The rise of ‘bots or VR programs catering to women’s hypergamy will probably change that, leading the herd to embrace them

        No evidence that these bots and VR programs can ‘cater to women’s hypergamy’ without strong AI – there’s just your belief. Producing a static book or a movie with Edward Cullen in it is one thing. But you have no idea about how to make it interactive (and impress all her girlfriends to boot). There’s not even a trace of this technology on the drawing board yet. Contrast this with the straightforward assembly that leads to male-oriented VR porn.

        Women will always complain.

        Undoubtedly true.

        I’m quite skeptical of any claim that they’re any “unhappier” now than they were back then.

        That’s fine for you. Myself, not so much. The women I’ve known of in third world countries appeared quite a bit happier and better adjusted than those in the Western world. That to me is solid evidence that feminism, the media, and the unrestrained appeal to women’s hypergamy cannot and will not make women happy.

        Seems to me more like wishful thinking.

        Can’t admit you’re losing the argument, can you? Heh heh heh.

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      • Is this it? It’s basically a device that lifts an elderly person without injuring him or her

        I was actually thinking of this:

        http://www.plasticpals.com/?p=29763

        77,000 dollars. It’s primarily meant for picking up the elderly, yes, but several aspects of its design, such as the rubber sensors the article mentions, are well-suited to giving a fucking machine the sensitivity and control necessary to keep from injuring a partner.

        Surgery bots are much more expensive, as you said, but if we want a man-bot which can fuck a woman without hurting her, I doubt surgeon-level skill and precision is required. It shouldn’t require advances in technology more than 10 years ahead of what RIBA is capable of.

        You’ve still given me no reason to believe women will suddenly change their spots and flock to high-tech en masse for sexual gratification five or ten years from now.

        They might not–it’s certainly possible they won’t. I wouldn’t say it’s almost certain, or even the most likely possibility. Back in the 60s or 70s, ask a guy how he thought male sexuality would evolve in the future and he’d probably tell you it wouldn’t change much–sexual gratification through hookers, shows, and pictures of girls, as it had always been. The floodgates unleashed by first VHS and then the Internet, of course, changed things far more quickly than most people predicted or even imagined. Betting that technology won’t invoke rapid changes in women’s sexual behavior, even after a seemingly long time of “stasis,” doesn’t seem particularly wise.

        With the exception of the e-book reader, they haven’t budged technologically since the entry of Harlequin romance into the market.

        Again, men’s sexual gratification didn’t change all that much (with the possible exception of mass-printed porn mags) technologically until porn videos and then the Internet came along in the late 20th century. That women’s porn hasn’t budged yet isn’t the strongest evidence that it never will or will only change extremely slowly, given how surprising things have been for men.

        Second Life was a “game” dominated by women. But its purposelessness turned it into an irrelevant backwater. That’s female-dominated “gaming” for you.

        You’d have to tell me more about Second Life–I never got the impression that it was dominated any less by males than any other MMORPG, given the amount of porn and sexplay which has always characterized it. The articles I was able to find lay the blame for its decline more on lindenlab’s policies than women ruining everything:

        http://ideonexus.com/2010/01/05/the-decline-and-fall-of-second-life/

        http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/12/25/second-life-user-concurrency-spends-year-in-slow-decline/

        Producing a static book or a movie with Edward Cullen in it is one thing. But you have no idea about how to make it interactive

        We already have interactive romance stories for women–they’re called “Otome Games” in Japan, an off-shoot of the dating games designed for guys. Those games are obviously extremely far off from near-human level AI, but girls in Japan buy a lot of them anyways. Another reason I’m not convinced of your claims that satisfying female hypergamy will require giant leaps in AI tech.

        The women I’ve known of in third world countries appeared quite a bit happier and better adjusted than those in the Western world. That to me is solid evidence that feminism, the media, and the unrestrained appeal to women’s hypergamy cannot and will not make women happy.

        I’ve known a few women from third world countries. No better or worse than those in America. Personal anecdotes don’t make for convincing predictions.

        Can’t admit you’re losing the argument, can you? Heh heh heh.

        Keep telling yourself that.

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      • 77,000 dollars. It’s primarily meant for picking up the elderly, yes,

        It isn’t “primarily” meant to pick up the elderly, its only purpose is that. It would not be programmed for one-offs such as fetching coffee or having sex.

        but several aspects of its design, such as the rubber sensors the article mentions, are well-suited to giving a fucking machine the sensitivity and control necessary to keep from injuring a partner.

        As I stated before, a machine like that cannot be coopted into doing one-off tasks. Yet you expect me to buy your argument that a fully automated fucking machine will be available for retail in a matter of years that would be competitive over a battery-powered vibrator (retailing for some dollars).

        Surgery bots are much more expensive, as you said, but if we want a man-bot which can fuck a woman without hurting her, I doubt surgeon-level skill and precision is required.

        For product-liability reasons, overkill would be a lot more desirable. Women are far more likely to bring lawsuits over injuries than men are.

        (concerning a female equivalent to male interactive VR porn)
        They might not–it’s certainly possible they won’t. I wouldn’t say it’s almost certain, or even the most likely possibility

        Then you agree that my scenario is the most likely one:
        (1) Women’s sexual substitutes in the near-term future (10-25 years) will not be significantly different or significantly more compelling than it is now.

        (2) Men’s sexual substitutes (i.e. porn) will be.

        Betting that technology won’t invoke rapid changes in women’s sexual behavior, even after a seemingly long time of “stasis,” doesn’t seem particularly wise.

        Note that my predictions are within a near-future time frame and use pre-existing trends. The primarily visual nature of men’s sexuality also makes it much more amenable to being affected by technological improvements in this time period. That’s why I feel comfortable with them.

        You’d have to tell me more about Second Life–I never got the impression that it was dominated any less by males than any other MMORPG

        http://www.the-spearhead.com/2009/10/31/second-life-the-post/ gives a pretty good account of it.

        The problem is that there’s no end goal in mind, so it devolves into what the author called a glorified chat-room. I suspect that’s a general problem with female-dominated media. Another issue is the tendency to embrace arbitrary fads, which makes it much more difficult to build on prior art. It’s one reason why the virtual worlds like World of Warcraft can be so elaborate; the male-majority user base is very loyal and the developers have a stable foundation to build on.

        The articles I was able to find lay the blame for its decline more on lindenlab’s policies than women ruining everything:

        Do you think that most of the media are in the habit of blaming women for anything? Most of the time they go out of their way to suck up to women. Let me put it this way – I’m not expecting a front-page article in the NY Times anytime soon of how Carly Fiorina drove HP into the ground.

        Personal anecdotes don’t make for convincing predictions.

        Ok, I could cite the studies that show that women are less happy now than they were before the widespread acceptance of feminism, but you already said you wouldn;t be convinced by that either. Maybe this url will help.

        http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2011/05/modern-women-and-evolutionary-mis-match.html

        We already have interactive romance stories for women–they’re called “Otome Games” in Japan,

        Interesting, but the interaction is text-based with decision trees – I read the Amazon review of one that sells in the US. Not exactly bleeding edge stuff. I certainly don’t see them evolving into the female equivalent of the immersive VR porn environments men will soon have available to them.

        And they may sell well in Japan but they’re hardly taking the rest of the world by storm. A look at the number of Amazon reviews (> 3000 for the Twilight novel, maybe 1500 for the movie vs 68 for an Otome game translated into English) will confirm this.

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      • As I stated before, a machine like that cannot be coopted into doing one-off tasks.

        Sure, but that’s because it doesn’t need to–as the article says, the most difficult part of the job for caretakers is lifting and carrying their charges constantly; there’s not much demand from care-workers for a robot which can do more than that. From the description of RIBA’s capabilities, I don’t see how it would be impossible to program the robot to do simple one-off tasks as well, such as fetching coffee. Obviously, we won’t see such advances next year, but the next 5 or 10 are a different matter.

        Then you agree that my scenario is the most likely one:

        No, not really. In the case of (1), I find it more likely that women will begin to colonize videogaming in order to get their rocks off (see my elaboration on Otome games at the end of this comment). For (2), I doubt that VR sex or even life-like sexbots will be that much of a game-changer. We’ve had lifelike sexual outlets that are as good or better than the “real thing” for a long time now–they’re called hookers (or escorts, if you live in the US or someplace else where prostitution is technically illegalized).

        In regards to second life, that’s an interesting article, and raises more factors I hadn’t thought of (litigation from third-party providers, dedicated Internet trolling), but from what I can see those eclipse what GX1080 and you call the “female-dominated chatroom nature” of the game. It’ll take a bit more than this to convince me that video gaming will forever be closed off to/is destined to be ruined by women.

        The link to Charlton’s article is interesting but doesn’t support your point about women’s happiness very well. He explicitly states that when he talks about which gender is ‘adapted’ to modern society, he isn’t referring to happiness but children produced (“natural selection operates on reproduction, and happiness is merely a means to that end”). The article doesn’t prove that women were necessarily any “happier” in pre-modern societies, only more reproductively successful. Which other studies are you referring to?

        Otome game interaction is text-based with decision trees – I read the Amazon review of one that sells in the US. Not exactly bleeding edge stuff.

        Yes, and that’s my point–women in Japan buy a lot of these games despite their primitive nature. If they can get their rocks off through interaction that consists of essentially a handful of decision trees, I don’t see why future applications aimed at them (VR programs or whatever) would require anything even remotely as advanced as near-human AI intelligence.

        And they may sell well in Japan but they’re hardly taking the rest of the world by storm.

        I’d chalk this up more to the ‘herd instinct’/status whoring nature of women than supposed proof that VR/videogames for chicks will be popular only in Japan. The popular otome games in that country are all based on brands which “everybody knows;” the name “Tokimeki Memorial” is as recognizable to the average Japanese gamer as Halo is to an American one. It’s not surprising that some no-name Otome game that nobody in the West recognizes hasn’t set many panties aflame. Slap the Twilight brand on an “interactive novel” for the Wii or downloadable off Steam, however, and we’ll see how much attention that gets.

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    • Neither – But like joining the military, successfully making it through an interesting stint of service can greatly add to one’s SMV.

      When faced with the moment of truth, the baby daddy who got up and ran, leaving a teenage black dude to save his wife and children, has now had his name dragged through the mud and even the baby momma probably won’t marry him (she said yes when he proposed out of guilt at the hospital). He will need to change his name.

      The black dude is now a national hero. He can parlay that into an alpha life.

      The lesson from this is to not go on dates in public places with women you would not be willing to lie on top of if bullets fly. Just have those come over to your place.

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      • The lesson from this is to not go on dates in public places with women you would not be willing to lie on top of if bullets fly.

        no fucking way.

        when the bullets start flying, i’m all ‘women and children first’.

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    • Alpha. Protector of loved ones in a crisis situation. Those girls will never forget what those men did for them, and will have trouble loving another man as long as they live. And if we define alpha as a man who receives love from women, this would be a prime example.

      Now THIS is beta:

      http://news.yahoo.com/batman-shooting-survivor-proposes-family-escapes-death-041250568.html

      The guy was there with his girlfriend, their 4-year old daughter, and infant son. If you read more into it, he had the baby while she had the 4-year old. He was was worried about getting shot at because he was crying, so he put him down. The mom, who did have a minor gunshot wound, ended up taking the 4-year old and the baby (whom she found on the floor) out of the theatre, while the dad escaped and DROVE AWAY! He came back eventually and then proposed to her. What a craven schmuck.

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      • “Those girls will never forget what those men did for them”

        Yeah well, except if they were already fucking someone else on the side.

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      • Possible. But even though asshole behavior has a very strong pull towards women, I still firmly believe that genuine heroism does too.

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    • prediction: in a couple of weeks’ time, these girls will be writing love letters to the shooter.

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  138. “Your kind will be locked in cubicles solving straightforward mathematical problems for the chosen when the liberal order is overthrown.”

    Stalin learned from your kind in seminary in his youth. You and the commies are the same shit only in different bags.

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  139. Must see alpha / cad behavior in action: Adrien Broner beats a guy bloody (unfairly, because he didn’t make weight) and then uses post-fight interview to neg girl.

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  140. Hate to burst the bubble, but wont a lot of this go the same way as many marriages?

    Woman will fuck and trap earlier on while her value is still high, but 5 years later, with a kid and the threat of alimony become a canckle queen?
    Best the poor bozo stuck with her will get is her ignoring the “fantasia 5000” he has under the bed while she still lives as an entitled hog?
    Plus expect hordes of (more) single mums who will have a law changed to entitle them to “free” (read, paid for by someone else) fertilisation.

    One of the dilbert books had a great write up about how virtual reality would kill the human race, for exactly the same reasons you state. The punchline was a chick asking Dilbert when hed be out for sex and he answred something like “September”..

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  141. Sexbot will be legislated against by the fem lobby. Technology is no help in a corrupt system.

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  143. on July 23, 2012 at 1:02 pm Reality Check

    All of these jackasses arguing that sexbot aren’t necessary because they know the “Game” are completely full of sh!t.

    I will say this though, those techniques will teach you two valuable lessons that make you attractive to the opposite sex: confidence and assertiveness. Whether women want to admit it or not, they’re attracted to men that have these qualities and don’t take their sh!t.

    That being said, pick up artist techniques aren’t going to get all the ugly and broke guys laid by a woman that looks like Meagan Fox. Sexbots, however, can.

    I’ve known plenty of guys that do really well with women that know how to manipulate women. They still don’t get laid whenever they want with a 9 or a 10, anyone that says otherwise is lying.

    A sexbot would allow all males blow off a lot of steam and stop wasting so much time and energy pursuing meaningless sex with random women because our bodies tell us to. Think of all the unplanned pregnancies alone it would prevent. Society would GREATLY benefit.

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  144. i believe our planet will be ruled by human-robot hybrids in 50 years.

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  145. If Stalin had learned from my kind Mount Rushmore would bear his face right now.

    You have misunderstood a great deal if you think the USA was founded on religious totalitarianism of any kind.

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    • That’s not what I was implying. I’m saying if Stalin had my brains and ideology he would have conquered America and it wouldn’t matter what America was founded on because America would just be a Soviet colony.

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  146. Maya

    All casual sex is dehumanizing. Why the fuck can’t I post here anymore?! My posts are disappearing … What should I do?

    ***********

    It’s possible that word press just doesn’t like you…or maybe it’s because your using italics. Whenever I use them my post get eaten as well.

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  147. Me to.

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  148. The “Russian phenomenon” wasn’t caused by sexbots or by a massive pouring in of sluts. It was caused by women favoring their sons, combined with the state taking over the responsibility of the father. Women learned to be useful, and that they didn’t deserve anyone/anything, while men learned to be lazy, and that they deserved all women/everything. Note I’m not blaming the patriarchy in and of itself.

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  149. Are you kidding? Precisely since women are not visual creatures, they’ve had other outlets for centuries: books, mainly. And don’t tell me women shouldn’t read; besides needing literacy for work, women are the primary caretakers of children, who will be dumber if their moms are illiterate.

    Jeez, even Christina Rossetti’s writing is sexy (as a warning to women not to engage in it, but still).

    Granted, access to this writing is easier and quicker through the internet, but women’s fictional sexual outlets haven’t changed as much as men’s have.

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    • True, women have always been dirty-minded perverts, while men were only forced to turn to porn when women jealously cockblocked their natural relations with prostitutes. Women were then liberated to live the lives of prostitutes, but the mind of a whore is never satisfied, and all media must be stimulating and all life the life of the brothel. We’ve even come to the point where the President of United states is a writer whose sole job is produce erotic fiction for females.

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  150. You’re right; this is a proven psychological phenomenon called the “uncanny valley.” Look at the graph on the Wikipedia page and you’ll see why it’s called that:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley

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  151. This is going to be my last post on the thread. Just wanted to clarify some points:

    Robotics programmability:
    From the description of RIBA’s capabilities, I don’t see how it would be impossible to program the robot to do simple one-off tasks as well, such as fetching coffee.

    Here are two good rules of thumbs for robotics and computing:
    (1) the stuff that looks “easy” is much more difficult to program than the “hard” stuff. So computer vision and navigation are still unsolved problems even though we have programs that do calculus and beat grandmasters at chess.
    (2) There’s a tradeoff between flexibility and reliability. Windows machines are infinitely flexible but have the blue screen of death; fuel medical equipment devices are extremely reliable but not flexible at all.

    In practical terms, this means commercial robots will emerge as an assemblage of single-purpose devices.General purpose robots will eventually emerge, but it will be a slow proceess. So no, the robot that lifts a patient out of bed will not be co-opted to fetch coffee at this point in time.

    Sexual substitutes:
    We’ve had lifelike sexual outlets that are as good or better than the real thing for a long time now
    – they’re called hookers
    (or escorts, if you live in the US or someplace else where prostitution is technically illegalized).

    No we haven’t. Hookers have numerous drawbacks :
    (1) Not enough of them
    (2) Too expensive.
    (3) Too many conditions. For example, you are unlikely to get a hooker to do unprotected anal sex (for good reason).
    (4) Can be risky, although I admit this is often exaggerated.

    VR porn would be dirt-cheap, in infinite variety, and 100% safe. The “women” in them would also be willing to do anything the man wanted. Yes, I it will be a game changer for men.

    Bruce Charlton:
    He (Charlton)explicitly states that when he talks about which gender is ‘adapted’ to modern society, he isn’t referring to happiness but children produced

    I guess then that phenomena like baby rabies has zilch to do with women’s happiness. That defies commonsense experience, along with the proliferation of cats single women are notorious for adopting.

    Otome games:

    Yes, and that’s my point women in Japan buy a lot of these games despite their primitive nature.

    And my point is Otome games are glorified romance novels. There’s no evidence that their interactive nature makes them significantly more addictive than the latter media.

    Lack of success of Otome games outside Japan:
    I’d chalk this up more to the ‘herd instinct’/status whoring

    In other words, it’s not a game changer and has no chance of becoming one. Peculiarities of female pyschology and fads trump technology by a vast margin.

    The popular otome games in that country are all based on brands which everybody knows;

    While a Japanese VR girl with flopping tits would sell like hotcakes the world over, and no one would give a rat’s ass about “branding”. See the difference?

    Second Life and female invasion of male space:

    This is a whole topic in itself. But bloggers such as Whiskey have noted a common pattern of women invading formerly all-male spaces and leaving behind a wasteland. The men depart en masse and the women soon move on to the next fad. It makes building on a stable foundation very difficult.

    So will women have their own video games and virtual spaces? Yes, of course. Will they have the elaborate nature and stability of male spaces? I’d say it’s unlikely.

    Fads. Male sexuality is impervious to fads; female sexuality is driven by fads and fashions – swamps other factors

    Technology. A game changer for men. Will primarily affect women in that it shifts the balance of supply and demand in men’s favor.

    Sexuality. Men’s sexuality is extremely straighforward and visually driven. Women’s is complex and multifactorial

    Sexual restriction. In the Western world, women have tried (through legislation and social censure) to restrict male sexuality as much as possible, while granting themselves as much license as possible. They have done this
    despite the greater availability (until recently) of sexual substitutes to them (dildos, etc). I’d say their behavior belies the notion that their sexual substitutes are satisfactory replacements for men.

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    • In practical terms, this means commercial robots will emerge as an assemblage of single-purpose devices.

      Interesting, but that makes it likely that sexual substitutes for women will show up as combinations of different types of machines rather than a single one. A VR headset providing “emotional stimulation” sold with a screwing machine or bodysuit (branded with whatever the porn equivalent of Gucci is) for the actual fucking.

      No we haven’t. Hookers have numerous drawbacks :
      (1) Not enough of them
      (2) Too expensive.
      (3) Too many conditions. For example, you are unlikely to get a hooker to do unprotected anal sex (for good reason).
      (4) Can be risky, although I admit this is often exaggerated.

      1 and 2: Depends on where you live (prostitution is cheap and plentiful where it’s legal) and VR headsets aren’t that inexpensive either. One article I found says a VR set will be available in 5 years for 1500 pounds. You can get a hooker now for not even a tenth of that price. 3 and 4, maybe. Unprotected anything with a hooker is a bad idea, and VR (probably) can’t give you diseases. Those are the only really convincing caveats you’ve given, and in light of how VR doesn’t seem to be “dirt-cheap,” I’m still not convinced of its superiority over prostitution.

      I guess then that phenomena like baby rabies has zilch to do with women’s happiness. That defies commonsense experience, along with the proliferation of cats single women are notorious for adopting.

      Yeah, and before we had cat ladies, we had women complaining about “nameless discontent” and “being trapped in motherhood.” I haven’t seen much hard evidence that yesterday’s mothers were any more or less miserable than today’s spinsters.

      In reference to Otome games:
      They’re not ‘game-changing’ or incredibly popular, because, as you say, they’re not much different from romance novels in and of themselves. I predict that incremental advances in haptics and AI technology possibly combined with clever marketing will change that. Emphasis on ‘incremental.’ The reason I brought them up is to demonstrate that female sexuality isn’t as “complex and multifactorial” as you make it out to be. The incredibly primitive (in fact, non-existent) AI of these types of games is enough to moisten panties. An AI capable of satisfying women wouldn’t have to be anywhere near human-level or even particularly complex.

      While a Japanese VR girl with flopping tits would sell like hotcakes the world over

      Japanese porn for men isn’t that popular outside of the country either. How many guys in America or Europe have you seen with onaholes (Japanese fleshlights)? Japanese porn–anime, videogames, and real people–caters to every fetish imaginable and is about as good as the best you can find in the West. It’s still not popular with anybody aside from Japanophiles and losers.

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      • You are wrong friend. Virtual Reality is here now, it will be commercially available by this year or next year. Just google Oculus Rift, they are doing a kickstarter and there are various youtube videos featuring John Carmack himself, the grand daddy of 3d gaming with his seminal contribution of Doom. The future is coming, and it definitely looks rosier for men than women.

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