Trucker Hats The Emblem Of 21st Century

“Cheap Chalupas” Cowen has a post ruminating on what things around today would be considered most distinctively 21st century in ten years. (Or, more accurately, what things would be considered most distinctively first decade of the 21st century.)

A gallant effort, but missed the mark. Here are the two things that are the defining characteristics of the zeitgeist of the 21st century Aughts.

1. Irony

As sarcasm is cheap humor, irony is cheap wit. Irony enabled preening, status whoring but largely mediocre SWPLs to pump their way into their trucker hats.

******

2.

Now these two emblematic things of the 21st century Aughts do share something in common. It’s a bit mischievous, no doubt, but what they share tells us much about the culture of this soon to expire decade. Can you figure out what it is?





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  1. Chateau,

    This is just cruel.

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  2. Just cruel.

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  3. A black man in a respected position. Nice try at irony there, but it only reveals a deeply stereotypical mindset and bad irony makes the peron look stupid not the object of scrutiny.

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  4. “I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.” Ecclesiastes 1:14

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  5. on August 18, 2010 at 12:06 pm Cannon's Canon

    2. human neurological uniformity

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  6. An exaltation (and even worse, imitation) of the status of a decadent elite?

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  7. Ok. I have to disagree with you here. Every generation recapitulates stuff that’s been done long before and then tries to swear up and down that they’ve reinvented the wheel. The truth is that the more things change, the more they stay the same. I think the two trends that will be visually emblematic of the past decade are the hipster look (skinny jeans, v-neck shirt, mutton chop side burns, etc.), and Douchebag attire (Ed Hardy, Affliction, Tap Out, etc).

    For those who are not in the know, these two trends have been around quite a while. Hipsters since the late ’90’s, and tattoo artist inspired shirts since 2004. They used to be edgy and cool before the unimaginitive masses caught on, but now they’re just lame. Tattoos are on their way out (sucks for those stuck with them for life), and the whole Katy Perry fake lesbianism thing will also be seen as flash in the pan fads.

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  8. Just commenting for the first time to advise:

    Don’t date Half Black, Half Asian girls. They’re fucking screwed in the head. Far more racial insecurity than mulattoes and the worst aspects of both races.

    Ugh. Won’t be trying that again.

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  9. A bumper sticker I saw in 1997:

    Large type:
    “A Woman’s Place is in the House”

    Small type:
    “and the Senate, and the White House, and the …”

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  10. To clarify my earlier comment: this generation did not invent irony or make it a fad. Irony, sarcasm, and satire were commoditized a very long time ago.

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  11. the 1st decade of the 21st century will be noted as the time the creative arts finally completely died and all static-g flowed into science, technology, economics and non fiction

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  12. Dana, are you Curvaceous from Steve Sailer’s blog?

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  13. ive been asked that b4, no

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  14. the 1st decade of the 21st century will also be noted for Ministry of Propaganda mainstream media beginning to lose its monopoly on the dissemination of information and formation of public opinion.

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  15. Escarindito said….

    and bad irony makes the peron look stupid

    ———————————-

    He didn’t fuck up Argentina that badly. Just let him be.

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  16. on August 18, 2010 at 12:51 pm Gunslingergregi

    lol just found out my half asian cousin becoming a doctor too.

    wtf is going on.

    Like whites are just shunned from the shit.

    Oh no no no

    That is a big deal to become a doctor lol

    Like riiigghhhttt all these people are smarter uh huhhh

    I guess I might as well push my kid into it.

    Seems to be what asian kids supposed to do.

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  17. Off-topic, but interesting:

    Pathetic young beta made to risk his life to get the girl—after she’s been fuck’d by SEVEN other guys!

    Discuss.

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  18. co-sign Esca’s comment, btw.

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  19. Gentleman,

    What is the plan for gaming sort of dumb, hot, aimless party girls? A girl messaged me (first contacdt) on POF saying what’s up.

    She looks like the sort who gravitate to the tattooed, Ed Hardy set. She’s probably quite dumb, and any sort of subtle humour of mine would be missed. I would say this is exactly where I need game. She said:

    “Well I stopped by to check out your profile and it kinda reminded me of my own as far as how u come across and what ur looking for, which means u might just pretty cool. So I thought I’d say hi !

    Naiomi
    Ciaoooo for now”

    Okay, if I had game I’d feel really good about my chances. What is the next move? My inclination would be to say “what’s up” and to ask her a really dumb question (e.g., what kind of food she’d want to be, if she had to be one). What do you guys think?

    FF

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  20. on August 18, 2010 at 12:59 pm Gunslingergregi

    I’m getting 3.5 g so I will be able to look at pictures plus sign up for school so maybe doctor?

    Might as well.

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  21. on August 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm Professor Woland

    Images such as this one can be displayed by SWPL as sort of a mezuzah to ward off the PC though police. They will pass on by and go to the non-PC whites where they can be brought to understand proper social justice and fairness.

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  22. PS, the chick is a 7 online, probably a 6 in real life. But wearing short-shorts in some pics, and doable for me.

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  23. The decade of Google, Wikipedia, blogs and Facebook. When the internet first came alive as a major resource for knowledge sharing. As well I suppose for visual porn. (Usenet had been doing written porn on the net from WAY back.)

    I do think the aughts were about and will be remembered for how the web became world universal among the educated, and important in their lives, more than anything else.

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  24. Also, if any of the dudes I was chatting with last week are here: it appears that hot girl flaked on me. We were going to go out Monday, but she cancelled with what sounded like a legitmate excuse but didn’t suggest another time. I just said “cool have fun”, and that was it. Tried to chat yesterday on FB (beta, I know), she either ignored me, or wasn’t there. Don’t really give a shit now, I’m moving in a week and she would’ve been a hard egg to crack. I think I was too aggressive physically, trying to get her to come home with me after our first date.

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  25. 2. internet memes?

    Both tell me this culture is lame.

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  26. What are SWPL? Is there some glossary for all this?

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  27. FF–

    Okay, if I had game I’d feel really good about my chances. What is the next move? My inclination would be to say “what’s up” and to ask her a really dumb question (e.g., what kind of food she’d want to be, if she had to be one). What do you guys think?

    The only way to go with hot dumb chicks to begin with is asshole game. Not subtle asshole either. Teasing big time asshole.

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  28. on August 18, 2010 at 1:14 pm Christopher Paul

    FF, Naiomi sounds like a spambot.

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  29. Hilarious video:

    Guy convinces a load of high-school girls to sign a petition ending women’s right to vote, all because they don’t understand what suffrage means.

    All at the fancy school sign (and some cheer even cheer) except for one smart girl. Perfectly illustrates the ratio of smart to dumb girls.

    Strangely, I find myself more attracted to the smart, tall geeky chick who refused to sign it than any of the dumb airheads.

    I always thought I valued looks over intelligence.

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  30. on August 18, 2010 at 1:17 pm Rollo Tomassi

    Sounds like someone’s upset about Dr. Laura’s newly announced “retirement” plans.

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  31. FF

    SWPL refers to the satirical websit, Stuff White People Like.

    The “white people” the guy at the site (a SWPL himself, a screen writer in Hollywood) is talking about are upper middle class on up uber trend conscious lefty liberals. Privileged whites who make a big show of helping the “disadvantaged”, but it really all about status jockeying.

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  32. Griffin, what was the Asian half? Chinese? Korean? Japanese?

    There’s a big difference in temperament and attitude between those ethnicities.

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  33. @Doug1, thanks.

    @Christopher Paul,

    Yeah, occurred to me. But she’s got a lot of varied pics and a detailed, somewhat incoherent, profile that seems too unpolished to be a spam bot. But if so it’s very clever: the girl is not quite hot enough to make me overly suspicious, but just hot enough to keep me interested.

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  34. Trying to find a zeitgeist
    (or, even, a weltgeist)
    for the past decade
    is as productive as
    trying to find zeitgeist
    in Paris Hilton

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  35. Irony became a way to say true things that one couldn’t say bluntly for fear of being labeled a racist/sexist/homophobe. The Aughty Swipples made their racist/sexist/gay jokes, but in such a way that made clear that they were doing so ironically — because someone with their enlightened attitudes could never be racist/sexist/homophobic, it must be that they were mocking stereotypes held by others, not ones secretly shared by themselves.

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  36. I think the show Friends in the 90s popularized humor dripping with sarcasm (not sure how ironic it was though.) By logical progression this humor eventually morphed into post-sarcastic-post-post-hip-post-ironic.

    Eventually we’ll come full circle and get back to normal.

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  37. hmm, probably adopting the sexual mores and dress codes of the lower classes? The “I hit it” guy is similar to POF’s 23rd “Mount and Do Me” boyfriend . Trucker hats? affirmative action? hmm…

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  38. @Doug1,

    Okay, I know plenty of those. I was just looking through a girl’s FB photos who was the embodiment of that concept: awkward dinner parties, drinking wine with “the girls”, pant-suits, etc. Also plenty of couples, teeming with betas as one would expect.

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  39. Roissy’s linked thread had the following interesting comment:

    Sarcasm is the only kind of “humor” females have.

    They can’t tell good jokes or funny stories.

    If you don’t believe me, name me one funny female comedian?

    Trick question. There are none.

    Sarcasm is used to cause people to laugh at the ridiculousness of another.

    If you look at the classic masters of comedy (Abbot and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, Marx Brothers, etc) they were comfortable laughing at themselves, making themselves silly and ridiculous for the sake of getting a laugh.

    Most women are very uncomfortable with the idea of being laughed at. They can’t accept it. When was the last time you saw a woman engage in self-deprecating humor?

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  40. @ Christopher Paul
    FF, Naiomi sounds like a spambot.

    I keep getting these popups from hot russian women wanting to meet me. How can I game them?

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  41. 2. That 4chan is now the source of all of our cultural memes?

    I find it funny that you’re a /b/tard, Roissy.

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  42. “the 1st decade of the 21st century will also be noted for Ministry of Propaganda mainstream media beginning to lose its monopoly on the dissemination of information and formation of public opinion.”

    And the second decade will be noted for the process being complete.

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  43. Can anyone explain the point of this post to me?

    What is the answer?

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  44. @FF

    Also, if any of the dudes I was chatting with last week are here: it appears that hot girl flaked on me. We were going to go out Monday, but she cancelled with what sounded like a legitmate excuse but didn’t suggest another time. I just said “cool have fun”, and that was it. Tried to chat yesterday on FB (beta, I know), she either ignored me, or wasn’t there. Don’t really give a shit now, I’m moving in a week and she would’ve been a hard egg to crack. I think I was too aggressive physically, trying to get her to come home with me after our first date.

    Initiating contact was a mistake. Your dismissive “cool have fun” might have generated interest if you let it ride.

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  45. The rise of the GaGa, floridian, Madonna-clone hiphop as mainstays of western culture. True gutter-trash passing off as entertainment.

    Some type of Kaballah/feminist hybrid.

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  46. @Andrew wk

    Chinese and Nigerian.

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  47. on August 18, 2010 at 1:48 pm Gunslingergregi

    Yea ff you were supposed to have been banging some other chick so that your mind would really be thinking cool have fun I don’t give a fuck.

    Or even tell her yea I’m a little busy hitting pussy tonight to make it.

    Lets reschedule for tomorrow.

    Or bring the movies. lol

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  48. on August 18, 2010 at 1:49 pm Cannon's Canon

    i was wrong above; the meme is more extreme than mere anti-HBD.

    the black man is godly. check out the pic: the sharp dress (though i see no pocket square) suggests a modest level of class and manner and corroborates the wealth implied by professional surgery.

    the broad shoulders and thick neck demonstrate high-end athleticism and strength, which leads us to this black buck’s original irony: he hits it from the back.

    not only is the black man sexualized and stylized, but as the footnote punchline explains, he also defies blacks’ negative stereotypes (namely smarts and social status).

    as far as what we can glean from this cultural message: it’s not there by coincidence. is it the manifestation white guilt? do we conclude that altruism is a predominantly white trait? (not a christian trait, as that religion has spread to regions that do not celebrate the permanently disadvantaged) or is there a… ‘perfidious’ special interest in selling black demigods to america?

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  49. on August 18, 2010 at 1:53 pm Gunslingergregi

    Or instead of cool have fun tell her no fuck those plans being the movies.

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  50. in terms of pop-culture, the 80’s was a more ironic decade. David Letterman at his peak, college radio when it had a distinctive voice and managed to pick which bands would be the next REM’s, Violent Femmes, and Social Distortions

    now irony seems to have been reduced to mere parody: South Park, Colbert, et al

    literal-mindedness seems to be the order of the day, whereas irony that doesn’t amount to direct parody seems to confuse people, so used as we are to people meaning exactly one thing or the other.

    my vote for 1. pastiche

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  51. Politically correct irony

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  52. I’d say the common elements are passive-aggressive gestures (sarcasm, irony, innuendo) which are symptomatic of a more feminized Western culture.

    Or possibly ‘ironic’ fashions and the semi-racist picture lampoon the fact we disdain tribalism but abide by it anyway.

    e.g.

    “Look at me making fun of tribalism with this bone necklace that is no longer in cave fashion” – camera pans to see his cave friends wearing similar

    and

    “I am not really a black stereotype because I have a high status job while I make my innuendos”

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  53. on August 18, 2010 at 3:00 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””’How about “war” . . . ?

    In my readings, every single solitary person who in the past two years has invoked the analogy “this is the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression” has failed to invoke what followed that economic catastrophe and effected its cure, viz., WWII.

    Do Americans or anyone else think we’re actually going to avert WWIII in this century (or even in the coming decade or two), after all the recent mayhem? Tortuous economic recovery may not only permit WWIII, it may require it (in the views of participating governments, et al.).

    What I’m further arguing is that the 21st century may well yet turn out to have been an entire century-long war, afflicting the entire globe country-by-country, continent-by-continent, ocean-by-ocean, decade-by-decade. (I dissent from Krugman in this, too: the 21st century began in 2001, and being able to say so, and to know why, matters.)

    Posted by: Edward Burke at Aug 18, 2010 9:31:57 AM
    ”””””

    lol was kind of funny to see all the moorpg whatever crap surrounding the world war iii statement.

    Yup that’s what I been seein.

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  54. on August 18, 2010 at 3:13 pm Gunslingergregi

    I saw the link went to a reference to world war iii
    and it was surounded by mmorpg game comments lol

    But yea people might not realize it but we are in world war iii right now.

    I mean shit one of my buddies was in kenya fixing contruction equipment for a contractor for the us army.
    So yea there are people from countries all over the world in iraq. We are bombing in pakistan. We are bombing the shit out of afganistan.

    Then the russia incident that happened.

    The problem is at moment we can swat any country pretty much like a fly because of air power. If that changes due to missile technolgy and it goes back to being able to be only conventional then it will definetly change the dynamic.

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  55. I don’t get it. Was this black person arrested for having anal sex in surgery with his anaesthesized patient?

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  56. AHE

    in terms of pop-culture, the 80′s was a more ironic decade. David Letterman at his peak, college radio when it had a distinctive voice and managed to pick which bands would be the next REM’s, Violent Femmes, and Social Distortions

    now irony seems to have been reduced to mere parody: South Park, Colbert, et al

    Interesting.

    If 80’s irony beget the aborted misshapen fetus of 90’s Political Correctness…

    then what future bodes from the futile innocuousness of today’s standard of childish parody.

    I imagine Science, your subsequent poster, hit it right with Politically Correct Irony – sanctioned by a Democrat thought patrol.

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  57. If the ’90s decade was about the Me generation, the ’00 decade will be the Look At Me generation. Superficial personalities collecting hundreds of Facebook friends–relationships a mile wide and an inch deep.

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  58. In the ‘70’s, we said, “Look how silly we looked back in the ‘50’s.”
    In the ‘90’s, we said, “Look how crazy we looked back in the ‘70’s.”
    Today, thanks to prionic memes, we can simply glance about and say, “Look how stupid we look now.”

    Currently, Nostalgic Turnaround curves are flattening (NT — The amount of time expired before nostalgic tendencies set in) and society is running out of things to be sentimental about. With non-original source material (rendered cultural by-product) being scarfed and regurged at increasing rates, perhaps society is at risk of some kind of Meta-Taint.

    Solution? Old-fashioned ridicule is a great disinfectant for any cultural contaminant, though. Better yet is a shunning indifference. That way, when you’re forced to acknowledge them you can just look at them, shake your head, and say, “Like you matter.”

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  59. In the ‘70’s, we said, “Look how silly we looked back in the ‘50’s.”
    In the ‘90’s, we said, “Look how crazy we looked back in the ‘70’s.”
    Today, thanks to prionic memes, we can simply glance about and say, “Look how stupid we look now.”

    Currently, Nostalgic Turnaround curves are flattening (NT — The amount of time expired before nostalgic tendencies set in) and society is running out of things to be sentimental about. With non-original source material (rendered cultural by-product) being scarfed and regurged at increasing rates, perhaps society is at risk of some kind of Meta-Taint.

    Solution? Old-fashioned ridicule is a great disinfectant for any cultural contaminant, though. Better yet is a shunning indifference. That way, when you’re forced to acknowledge them you can just look at them, shake your head, and say, “Like you matter.”

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  60. Homagamy and hypergamy.

    In general, the crumbling of Western Civilization’s foundations.

    DD

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  61. oh boy.
    This was the decade of the police state, social mind control, global warming scare… the cattle going towards the new world order.
    And to think here only the goodbooksformen clown knows about it.
    America is really doomed.

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  62. On the positive side,

    1. Documentary film making has been extraordinary this decade.

    2. The average man has unbelievable access to pussy through application of the relatively simple principles of game.

    3. Access to almost all of the world’s knowledge at your fingertips thanks to the internet.

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  63. the fear of making a statement

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  64. @MichaelC: Agreed. Unfeminine as sarcasm is, I’d say women (especially hotter ones) use sarcasm and irony as a defensive measure – a way of blurring things out to make it harder for guys to figure her out and game her successfully. If she expresses SWPL-isms genuinely and non-sarcastically, that would leave her susceptible to “you’re one of those types” disqualifier game or ridiculing, so she makes it hard for guys to tell what her positive convictions are. This is why so many hot girls unfortunately have the sarcastic duckface expression etched onto their faces these days.

    It’s a real sign of the times, this sarcasm/irony shit. It’s to deconstruct and ridicule any values or convictions, especially those anathema to the liberal hegemony. People don’t want to be seen to “take anything seriously” lest they open themselves to ridicule. It’s a process of homogenisation and levelling out by making people subconsciously conclude that it’s probably best not to have any convictions about anything and just “go with the flow”. That usually involves espousing liberal memes, which they can do with nonchalance thanks to their uncontroversial nature. It’s an infantilisation process. Having convictions means having to take care to live in accordance with them, something requiring maturity and responsibility, but people these days would rather they did whatever they want on a whim without thinking of the long-term or having any notion of civic responsibility.

    Tangential, I know. But it all ties in.

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  65. AHE
    literal-mindedness seems to be the order of the day, whereas irony that doesn’t amount to direct parody seems to confuse people, so used as we are to people meaning exactly one thing or the other

    … ooooooorrrrr that could just mean that the only place where you ever interact with anyone is on the internet.
    Occam says his razor agrees with me, and not with you. Nice try, though.

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  66. Doug:
    The only way to go with hot dumb chicks to begin with is asshole game. Not subtle asshole either. Teasing big time asshole

    If “big-time asshole” is still compatible with “teasing” then you must exist in a very, um, exclusive demographic.

    Real big-time assholes, the type that would start a bar fight and see it through to the bitter bloody end, are not going to be doing much teasing anytime soon. And, they don’t have to.

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  67. I see the all the urban beta intellectuals have again formed a sitting circle from which to masterbate one another….yawn.

    Wake me up when this blog finally figures out where it misplaced its balls.

    It seems your biggest fantasy is the ability to suck your own dick.

    Oh, how ironic, I’m so fucking witty.

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  68. I don’t know. I dropped out of humanity in 2002.

    I’m just now emerging from my self-imposed exile, my seven-year meditation to find that everything I discovered has already become irrelevant.

    I’m not that old, I graduated high school in 2004, but I already see a huge gulf between my experiences as an adolescent and the experiences of this new crop coming up now. It’s all about posturing. At first I thought that these emo kids I was talking to were very strage, but no… Everyone postures like a bunch idiots, competing with each other over how deep their feelings are. It’s not that I think there’s anything wrong with having emotions, but most of these people are just using it as the new status currency.

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  69. Just read all 68 comments and:

    Psyco’s was the perfect ending

    2. Still don’t get what #2 is supposed to mean.

    Maybe that’s the point or maybe it’s like Psycho says a passive-aggressive way to fuel the author’s inner Klansman. Based on previous posts on the same topic, I’m going to go ahead a say the ladder.

    It’s not all black people’s fault your college girlfriend gangbanged the basketball team, bro, just yours…

    Who won the Jets game? You know?

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  70. on August 18, 2010 at 8:33 pm 1987 James Hetfield

    Utter rejection and disdain for truth, for beauty, for what could have been. Disdain for manhood.

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  71. huevos

    no one hates black people because of some girl banged one–they hate them for being low iq criminals who destroy everything they touch

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  72. “A bumper sticker I saw in 1997:

    Large type:
    “A Woman’s Place is in the House”

    Small type:
    “and the Senate, and the White House, and the …””

    Oh my God, I saw this bumper sticker as I was driving today. I almost threw up.

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  73. Actually, White people are in mourning over the destruction of Black Culture (Miles Davis, Marvin Gaye, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, to Michael Jackson and … Snoop Dogg).

    Since they know their culture is next.

    Miles Davis hated White people (but almost always had White girlfriends). Maybe he had reason, he got beaten by a racist White cop in Manhattan in the late 1940’s. He still made beautiful music. So did Marvin Gaye. And Stevie Wonder.

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  74. Whiskey, funny, I was beaten by a white cop back in my old country, but I did not start hating white people. True, I may have been for a while prejudiced against cops… OK yea, he was a commie cop and I hate commies… but I always did.

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  75. whiskey

    the black culture you speak of us mourning was a result of the lack of opportunities afforded high iq blacks under the pre civil rights regime

    if black geniuses had never been oppressed there would have been no jazz

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  76. Whiskey, you’ve forgotten Otis Redding and Jimmi Hendrix.

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  77. Dana, correllation does not causality make. But entitlement culture can whack anyone if there is not some solid core and mature internal compass.

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  78. no duh morsel

    high iq blacks were skimmed like cream out of the black community after the institution of affirmative action and sent to college to become mainsteamed and ceased participating in the arts meaningfully, like most high iq people do now that there are so many opportunities in technology, science, math and engineering

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  79. Well, whiskey, sorry to be so hit’n’run, multitasking momentarily… There are bad cops, there are good cops. So Davis was rather generalizing not only as cops go, but also based on their melanin or lack of it thereof.

    I’ve never seen a good commie (“good commie” as in “he is such a good party member” does not count), though.

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  80. Dana, dunno, it i like you are saying that adversity brings out the best out of people. Sometimes that’s true. There are many works of art or literature that would never have been produced if the conditions were just medium cool.

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  81. no morsel

    i am making a literal statement

    the smart fraction of any given population will cluster itself around whatever the most highly g loaded occupation is open to it at any given time. when high iq blacks were limited by institutionalized racism in participating in great numbers in the high g professions, academic fields and sciences they expressed their IQs in the most g loaded venue available–music

    when they were freed of segregation and discrimination smart fraction ran directly to the mainstream high iq venues leaving a massive talent vacuum in their wake, to be filled by worthless mediocrities

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  82. dana:
    So all talents are taken by smart people, and dumb people never produce anything?

    Honestly the dumbasses in the welfare line never make good music so I might agree with you… “Everyone has something special about them…” is very wrong.

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  83. no aspirant

    when the smart people hollow out all of the possible permutations of a field–painting, classical music, theater, jazz, film, literature–you name it, and then move on, dumb people flow into those fields in their wake and continue the artform but are mediocre and derivative

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  84. on August 19, 2010 at 2:11 am Throbbing Love Pump

    I do so like derivates. Like comments on a blog, no?

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  85. What they both have in common is delusion – being one thing while wanting to be another.

    The yuppie wants to appear connected to the original values, the core of America. That core is represented in rural, working class areas. Thus the trucker hat. He has the affiliation without the substance.

    Then we have the delusion that blacks are all physicists and surgeons.

    It’s the same delusion of Sam in Sex in the City. She’s 45ish, yet still believes she’s a sexy, dynamic woman.

    And the biggest delusion of all: that the US is still a world class power, that we are the best, land of the free and home of the brave. Things are getting better all the time, it’s morning in america.

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  86. on August 19, 2010 at 5:10 am theobsidianfiles

    Well, it’s been awhile since I’ve been in the House that Roissy built. Given the subject matter, I’d like to begin with a “dish” I prepared at my place:

    http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2010/08/16/black-men-game/

    And now, for a few comments.

    Whiskey, I think the best way to proceed with regard to Miles Davis is to consider a contemporary of his, Sammy Davis, Jr. He too dealt with White Women. Did he exhibit the same kinds of White Male animus? Keep in mind please, that he too ran afoul of ill-treatment at the hands of White Men-to the point where it cost him an eye for daring to find love accross the color line.

    Then, there was Richard Wright, the famed writer, who married a White Jewish Woman and had two girls with her. Did he also have negative feelings toward White Men in general?

    Frederick Douglass had a White wife. What’s the deal with him?

    As for Dana’s points, I’ve addressed them over at her blog.

    Holla back

    O.

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  87. on August 19, 2010 at 5:16 am theobsidianfiles

    Dana,
    You said:
    “when the smart people hollow out all of the possible permutations of a field–painting, classical music, theater, jazz, film, literature–you name it, and then move on, dumb people flow into those fields in their wake and continue the artform but are mediocre and derivative”

    O: I see your mis-informed obsessions are alive and well, LOL. First of all, if what you say is true wrt Black musical styles, how do you explain the true artistry of Hip Hop luminaries such as the late J Dilla, who I liken to Frederick Chopin? Or DJ Premiere, hands down one of Hip Hop’s most prolific producers? Or the RZA, whose unique production style has now earned him movie scoring cred (and was featured in the film Repo Men)? It must be said that all three Men had little to no formal musical training. Are you familiar with this names, Dana?

    Holla back

    O.

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  88. Dana says, “no one hates black people because of some girl banged one–they hate them for being low iq criminals who destroy everything they touch”

    So what’s “White” people’s excuse for being criminals who destroy everything they touch?

    Did a Black man invent the nuclear bomb? Start the war that inspired it? Do any Black people own banks in the U.S.?

    Are Black people outsourcing labor overseas, resulting in millions of jobless men who may never work again?

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  89. on August 19, 2010 at 1:08 pm Oh no he diii-ent

    “how do you explain the true artistry of Hip Hop luminaries such as the late J Dilla, who I liken to Frederick Chopin? Or DJ Premiere, hands down one of Hip Hop’s most prolific producers? Or the RZA, whose unique production style has now earned him movie scoring cred (and was featured in the film Repo Men)? It must be said that all three Men had little to no formal musical training.”

    Easy, hip hop is musical garbage compared to what the jazz greats did.

    No one cares who *you* liken to anything, Obsidian.

    You’re just a low-iq prole. Your opinions don’t matter.

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  90. obsidian confuses popularity with quality

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  91. “Did a Black man invent the nuclear bomb? Start the war that inspired it? Do any Black people own banks in the U.S.?

    Are Black people outsourcing labor overseas, resulting in millions of jobless men who may never work again?”

    lol nicole no

    black people have never produced or accomplished anything with either good or bad results at all

    you are right

    they produce crime, bad music and carbon dioxide

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  92. The funny thing about the photo is everyone (white people) knows what “hit it from the backside” means. 50 years from now guys that look like Dick Cheney and women that look like Betty White will say “I grew up listening to Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre”.

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  93. whiskey

    Miles Davis hated White people (but almost always had White girlfriends). Maybe he had reason, he got beaten by a racist White cop in Manhattan in the late 1940′s.

    so says
    Miles Davis

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  94. on August 19, 2010 at 2:45 pm gunslingergregi

    Hey obsidian

    Don’t come on here with your racist black individual self and talk to dana.

    Fuck off.

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  95. @ gunslingergregi

    Tell us what you really think!

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  96. on August 19, 2010 at 3:36 pm gunslingergregi

    Well OhioStater obs is an active racist black man.

    You probably are just a black man.

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  97. The “black” man in the pic is, I guess, two thirds white.

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  98. Miles did get beat by a cop, the photos are clear and available on the net. How many black/Asian cops in the 40’s?

    His closest confidante was Gil Evans. What color that name sound like?

    Why is it blacks from the Jim Crow era are expected to put up with all that bullshit without it affecting them?

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  99. Dana

    you have any statistics to back up your assertion between high g and the black jazz greats from mid-century?

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  100. @ gunslingergregi

    Performing surgery while black is so two thousand and late. Blogging while black is three thousand and eight.

    That does bring up a good point tho: is there any place for black guys in the Roissy-sphere?

    Is game for any guy (white, black, or Asian) that wants to do better with girls of his rank (same league, same race), or is game for any guy that wants to pick up young white girls hotter than a 7?

    Some websites make it clear their advice is for white beta males only (sites like Occidental Dissent), but all game websites more or less work in the following manner:
    1. identify white male omega habits (video gaming, dungeons and dragons) and purge them
    2. prove your opponents (alpha males, bad boys, and black guys) are monopolizing women that rightfully belong to you
    3. co-opt your opponents tactics to take back what is rightfully yours.

    Most black guys don’t blog, or use their computers to learn how to pick up women. Google Steven A Smith and fantasy football (http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3556641): the man-o-sphere is dominated by white beta males.

    I think Obsidian, vk, and Ricky Raw add a lot of value, value that white guys can use to pick up white women, but Steve Sailer is also a contributor to these same discussions. No offense, but they seem like black guys at the Republican National Convention.

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  101. OhioStater
    The funny thing about the photo is everyone (white people) knows what “hit it from the backside” means. 50 years from now guys that look like Dick Cheney and women that look like Betty White will say “I grew up listening to Snoop Dogg and Dr Dre”.

    That’s not funny, that’s sad.

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  102. Dana, if you’re going to ride coattails, then consider my opinion of humans in general.

    Now imagine all White people were one person, and all Black people were another, and that both are drooling morons.

    You’re a foreman, and need to fill a position with one of these morons. Would you rather hire the lazy moron or the industrious moron?

    I personally would rather hire the lazy moron because I’d know there would be a limit to how much they could screw things up.

    So in my opinion, you’re essentially dick sizing over the magnitude of fatal stupidity. You’re saying White people are somehow better because when they screw up, it has global effects and millions die, whereas when Black people screw up, a measly one, okay, maybe a thousand people die.

    On an individual level, I’d take a Crip over a chav any day of the week. The Crip might actually have a soul and some sense of morality or honor, even if it’s a twisted one.

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  103. I’d take a Crip over a chav any day of the week

    Bad analogy. Rather than a chav (a newish, ridiculous, wiggerish creature of socialism) take your pick of skin, ‘neck, or ‘fioso.

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  104. on August 20, 2010 at 9:32 am gunslingergregi

    Well I guess I should go back to states and really fight for my disability checks and not ever have to worry about fucking up anything again lol

    Every former crip and blood and shit I met was on it to some degree.

    You need to hire the white male because he is the only one who will not cost you extra money and will do extra work for free. he he he

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  105. on August 20, 2010 at 9:44 am gunslingergregi

    Instead of looking for work and trying to do a good job and offer something to a company I guess I could just make my work just gaming system. Which of course I do deserve the benefits but then what the fuck will there be to work for.

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  106. on August 20, 2010 at 9:47 am gunslingergregi

    Althoug fuck pa.

    Yea ok obviously the system does owe me money and I should get it because they did fuck me up.

    So it does kind of make sense to get my cut of the free pie.

    Why should I be the only one not getting a check just because of false pride in being a white hardworking guy.
    I should cast aside the false pride and take the easy money.

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  107. on August 20, 2010 at 9:57 am gunslingergregi

    I am enjoying the easy life if I also had nice loot yea wouldn’t need to work could just have a good time forever.

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  108. on August 20, 2010 at 10:01 am gunslingergregi

    Thanks nicole for opening my eyes really whites can learn a lot from blacks.

    White men don’t need to hold up system on their backs they can get some benefits too.

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  109. on August 20, 2010 at 10:06 am gunslingergregi

    I didn’t go to the counseling and shit because I didn’t want to get a check lol
    I wanted to keep working.
    They diagnosed me bi-polar in dubai.
    Which I could of just taken and ran with to get my check for life from the system.
    But I didn’t but yea you know what your probably correct I need to take care of me.

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  110. “So in my opinion, you’re essentially dick sizing over the magnitude of fatal stupidity.”

    I fail to see what is stupid, evil, and wrong about outsourcing or banks. As far as I am concerned those things are a beneficial force for the people who practice them in a method as-close-to-ideal as possible. For as poorly regulated as they were in the US, I’d argue they were still on the whole beneficial for many Americans. It is mostly just a political shitstorm, with politicians pandering their bad views to citizens for votes who don’t really understand the issue by pronouncing its immediate negative effects (loss of jobs at one locale) without looking at the positive (new jobs at another locale, and if that locale is outside of the States outsourced countries have to respend the American currency back where it is accepted which is the US, thus creating more jobs especially in the things America does do most efficiently, and access to cheaper goods for all).

    …And as for the nuclear bomb, the guys on the Manhattan project were awesome men, and pure fucking geniuses. We’re talking giants as far as men of science go like Enrico Fermi, Einstein, Oppenheimer, Neils Bohr, Richard Feynman (to some extent), plus military bigshot Leslie Groves, and even a few prominent minorities, including the “Marie Curie” of physics Chien-Shiung Wu who definitely helped pave the way for Asians in prominent Californian universities. No blacks as far as I am aware, though I could definitely be wrong, the only thing I find on blacks pertaining to the Manhattan Project are complaints about their treatment as citizens in Los Alamos. This basis of this technology has led to so many important new technologies, and atomic tech has -so far at least- been largely beneficial to humanity. Though it may sound cold to you, not using it in the Asia-Pacific theatre of WW2 likely would have cost many more lives as a more peaceful alternative was highly unlikely at the time. Military strategists had predicted that a prolonged battle would only be brought to an end after invading Japan costing an estimated 350,000 American lives (plus an additional 1.5 million US casualties as serious injuries), which is roughly comparable to the lives lost by Nuclear Weapons. Many times more Japanese and Chinese lives would have been lost as well.

    So far, I think you are one for three. I definitely agree with you on the war that inspired the bomb though. That was pretty fucking evil and wrong.

    That said, other races are guilty of their own share of evil too, though whites definitely have the worst case as far as genocidal wars go, they do not stand alone in that department. That said, we have to deal with these evils, like massive crime rates in the black community, just like our grandparents dealt the Nazis a return of serious punishment by ending their lives and/or forcing the rest of the Axis powers to come into line.

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  111. on August 20, 2010 at 10:09 am gunslingergregi

    So they offered me the free money and I didn’t take it. I am actually too fucking white lol

    I am a moron with false pride.

    I need to change to adapt to reality.

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  112. That last part came out wrong, I’m not saying deal with black criminals by necessarily going to war with them like we did Nazis, but we need to get more stern and actually do something concrete. That goes for criminality everywhere, but blacks definitely have it worse.

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  113. on August 20, 2010 at 10:13 am gunslingergregi

    It was kind od a sham though because they only talked to me for a couple minutes and then I just stated in the room with my sister rest of time lol

    Kind of like company was like ok here is your check for us knowing that you know that we had minorities take over the motherfucker and fucked with white people and it is reality.

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  114. “Moloko
    Miles did get beat by a cop, the photos are clear and available on the net. How many black/Asian cops in the 40′s?

    His closest confidante was Gil Evans. What color that name sound like?

    Why is it blacks from the Jim Crow era are expected to put up with all that bullshit without it affecting them?”

    we don’t care what black people put up with, are offended by or want anymore

    welcome to obama’s america

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  115. I fail to see what is stupid, evil, and wrong about outsourcing

    Old propaganda posters in the USSR showed the New Soviet Man as a heroic worker/farmer, muslces flexing tautly as he cranked hard at work.

    Unfortunaltely, the socialist man is comething much closer to The People of Walmart than those old Communist posters.

    What does this have to do with outsourcing? the fact that getting coolies to do your work on the cheap (both by inviting them in and by sending work over to them) you are become a nation that does not do its own work.

    You take away jobs form your workers, and recompense workers with cheap China-made trinkets and government dole. You turn men and women into the pigs that (dis)grace your local WalMart.

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  116. PA

    workers are taking jobs away from themselves by making themselves too dear

    outsourcing is just another bandaid to fix the massive market distortions caused by government interference in labor, wages, prices, insurance, regulatory compliance costs, anti discrimination laws, family leave etc

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  117. PA we’re still largely employed in the West save for the recent market disaster which is only tenuously related to outsourcing, and more related to poor monetary and credit regulation in the US, so I have no idea what you’re talking about by a nation that does not do its own work. We do do plenty of our own work.

    You and I might not like them gay little trinkets, but those things and other McGoods and Services has more to do with the desires of others in our community for why they come into being. It has little more to do with outsourcing other than that was how it got brought into this world.

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  118. I agree with Dana. Outsourcing and advancing technology has been such a boon that many of us have such a hard time seeing the ill effects of “massive market distortions caused by government interference in labor, wages, prices, insurance, regulatory compliance costs, anti discrimination laws, family leave etc” because we’re so damn well off

    If times were even tougher, we’d see the darkness

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  119. the misplaced romance of Autarky never ends

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  120. Dana, you’ve forgotten business taxes. Add it all up and you get a wonderful service economy, with a lotsa burger flippers.

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  121. That link with history of Autarky shows tiny to medium-sized countries like Albania and Spain, and insanities like Cambodia and North Korea. The US spans an entire continent, so “trade” can be conducted within very nicely, except for boutique things like Italian suits. Throw in Canada, and you don’t really need the rest of the planet.

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  122. Guns, dependency on the system would kill your soul. We may not agree on everything but you at least think for yourself. Keep doing that, and stay as far away from dependency on infrastructure as possible.

    When I’m using the umbrella terms (White, Black, Klingon, etc.), it’s only because other people do, and if I get too esoteric, people’s eyes glaze over and whatever point I’m trying to make gets lost. Along with being less of a bitch, I’m also trying to be less of an incoherently babbling nerdette.

    I don’t always do so well at that, but I’m trying.

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  123. Justin, I’m not saying that there were no positives at all in these things, just that if one is going to take credit for the good their co-ethnics have done, they have to take credit for the bad as well.

    Humans in general suffer from the same kinds of stupidity because we all suffer the same basic condition: mortality. We all also have the same basic needs. One group’s regional adaptations are not superior to another’s because they are regional. Each race, each ethnicity, and each family, by virtue of their surviving today, had done equally well at surviving thusfar.

    The future is another story. In a western culture, nationality has to take priority over ethnicity. Each individual has to adapt and survive the current situation. Those who cannot will not, but thusfar in the U.S. “race” has not yet been deprioritized enough yet for anyone to know whether or not any group is truly better at anything than others independent of socioeconomic and academic tampering.

    The “cream” of all ethnicities will rise to the top eventually though, no matter what. Maybe all this hate from both sides is some people’s way of trying to fight that inevitability.

    It may turn out that Black people are generally better at social fields, social engineering, and fighting, and that these talents twisted results in a violent sociopathic criminal rather than an adept leader or warrior.

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  124. on August 21, 2010 at 9:37 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””””Nicole
    Guns, dependency on the system would kill your soul. We may not agree on everything but you at least think for yourself. Keep doing that, and stay as far away from dependency on infrastructure as possible.

    ”””””

    Proably one of the reasons I don’t think obs trying to lead blacks to the promised land but to a bloody end.

    Seriously like 100 percent of the former military black guys I worked with on disability.

    Like 100 percent of the white guys no.

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  125. on August 21, 2010 at 10:14 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””””OhioStater
    @ gunslingergregi

    Performing surgery while black is so two thousand and late. Blogging while black is three thousand and eight.

    That does bring up a good point tho: is there any place for black guys in the Roissy-sphere?
    ”””””

    lol dude half the guys in the roissy sphere are black.

    You know how many black dudes I talked to who thought the man was keeping em down when I went home.

    All of them.
    But yea I kicked some knowledge.
    I do think white men could do a lot by going into the ghetto and kicking truth.
    But if your black and know truth you can kick it too.
    Fuck I talk to black dudes same as I talk on this blog because it is truth they can’t say shit about it.
    But yea it is a bitch and it is unfair to white dudes way system runs to exclude them from loot..
    but with truth you can still get past it with nobody stopping you just save your fucking money.
    But if your gonna be like blacks deserve to be able to kick a white dude out of job even if black dude has less skills.
    Then that is gonna eventually make some white dudes insane.
    And the shits gonna build man its gonna build real fucking bad. Because yea all white dudes ain’t fucking simps.
    And they ain’t gonna take the shit forever. Lifes a bitch what can ya do. But yea pretty much white dudes at top stcking it to white dudes at bottom and just using blacks as the hammer and laws as the anvil.

    All dudes should be getting with developing country woman though.
    They are about the only ones that can come close to matching us on equality.
    woman in west just too fucking coddled anymore. No hardness in em but also no softness. We are fucking up all our woman and making them weak which makes are children weak which will in turn make us weak which will in turn make us easy to conquer which will make all the bullshit a moot point.

    You want a hot black chick that will make even the white boys shout dammmm
    Go to somalia.
    My bro was like 60 and hooked up and had kid with chic from there hot chick.
    Like an 8
    but yea saw the pics just posted right like that but hotter.

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  126. on August 21, 2010 at 7:04 pm Gunslingergregi

    ”””””’on August 20, 2010 at 6:30 pm Nicole
    Guns, dependency on the system would kill your soul. We may not agree on everything but you at least think for yourself. Keep doing that, and stay as far away from dependency on infrastructure as possible.
    ””””’

    But I don’t want to think about it anymore. It doesn’t benefit me.

    I want my equality.
    I want my check.

    Those black dudes getting check and working too.
    They have the choice.
    New slaves are white males expected to compete with black people and woman and hispanics and minorities while at same time getting nothing. Fuck that. I am tired of proping up the system through my sweat and then now even gameinbk talking about white dudes having problem like a mug finding work.
    I have been in a god dam war zone for almost 6 years of my life because I don’t want to see the bullshit.
    White dudes need to wake up and get their piece of the pie and go ahead and help break the system. As long as we keep working and doing the job of 3 people or more and then also on top of that just taking it in the ass this shit ain’t never gonna change. We need to demand our minority status because we are also a minority compared to everyone else. I really don’t feel like fucking working my ass to the fucking bone again so that we can have oil and shit if I don’t have to.
    I’ll just go ahead and make more of a statement by not propping up system because no matter where I work I can’t help but fucking try my best. Fuck that. I don’t want to give shit back I don’t owe any more of my sweat and blood.

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  127. @Gunslingergregi

    White guys are getting a crap deal in society? you have no idea how hard I work while my white counterparts chill on the boat for the weekend…

    What’s going on in society isn’t a situation where minorities and women run everything.(ok …maybe women)

    What’s going on is super-alpha white guys are screwing everyone INCLUDING beta white guys….

    Who runs wall street? Who runs the fed? Who runs the military industrial complex? Who runs the banking industry? Who runs the CIA? Who controls what is on television?

    Tyrone and Olajuwon? ….probably not…

    Affirmative action for example is how all black men and beta white men are screwed over by alpha white men.

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  128. @Guns..

    I missed this comment…

    “But yea pretty much white dudes at top stcking it to white dudes at bottom and just using blacks as the hammer and laws as the anvil.”

    except instead of blacks you should say “Women”…meaning black and white women…

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  129. Affirmative action for example is how all black men and beta white men are screwed over by alpha white men.

    Which explains why most black men vote against affirmative action.

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  130. except instead of blacks you should say “Women”…meaning black and white women

    Many blacks are more than happy to play the role of Bernanke’s Willing Executioners.

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