Why The Elites Prop Up The Blank Slate

Dennis Mangan nails it:

But it also occurs to me that Orszag and his ilk have another motivation beyond pushing their blank slate theories, and that is self-justification. Those like him who have made into the elite are made of sterner stuff, practicing their 10,000 hours, and thus deserve to be part of the elite, unlike you proles, wasting your time on TV and Nascar.

No, connections and intelligence have nothing to do with becoming a Cabinet member, or even a New York Times columnist. All that success comes from the superior morality of someone who buckles down to the task.

There is a lot of speculation about why the elites (and at present, the elites in America are mostly megaphone-wielding whites) are so insanely and stupidly gung-ho about the infinite malleability of human nature and the policy implications that follow therefrom.

  • They want to drive a wedge between themselves and “the wrong kind of white people” using the underclass as pawns so that they face less competition from those most likely to give it to them for the top career slots.
  • They are brown-nosing amongst fellow SWPLs for those ever-crucial status points that can only be signaled by hating and obfuscating the common sense that is the currency of thought with putatively less enlightened whites.
  • They are true blank slate believers.
  • They are creating artificial social obstacles designed to make it difficult for less intelligent whites to navigate their way into polite society, thus selectively filtering for only the most socially savvy to rise to the top.
  • They are paying the danegeld and rationalizing their extortion.
  • They are secretly ashamed of acting in ways in their own lives that deny blank slate theology, and therefore seek to assuage their guilt. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.
  • They want to squeeze the middle class — their main competitors — and establish a virtual hereditary aristocracy of globalized ruling class transnationalists. Patriotism, religion, tribalism, and ethnic kinship all work against that goal.
  • They are bored with national prosperity.
  • They abhor hopelessness.
  • Do-gooderism is their replacement religion.
  • They are sadists who like sticking it to dumber people.

All the above reasons have a kernel of truth, but for a glimpse at what motivates the seemingly self-duping elites in their crass status whoring and propagandistic myopia, you have to peer beneath all that straight into the thermal core of their souls where self-conception resides and the ego sloshes in a cauldron of lifeblood. This is where Mangan’s answer hits upon the ultimate truth —

A defeat of the blank slate robs the elites of their self-satisfaction. Their pride is the beast that stands guard at the last gate, claws and fangs bared, a giant warhammer held aloft to stop those who would raid the castle. At this gate — the last stand before they must relinquish everything that defines their smug superiority — they will spare no quarter for platitude smashing barbarians. Here they fight with a viciousness that belies the nobility of what they claim to fight for.

If genes for intelligence, conscientiousness and discipline account for half or (probably) more of one’s success in life (i.e., success over others), then what does that say about the elite that doesn’t remove a large plank propping up their zealously guarded pride? What successful person really wants to hear that a big reason for their success was…

dumb fucking luck?

(This post has been a 9-11 remembrance, mothafuckaaaaaas.)





Comments


  1. ummm…satan?

    I think it’s armchair totalitarianism. If I were in charge, I’d do this or that. Plus, they’re assholes.

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  2. So are these “elites” in their current positions through luck, scams and bullshit or real competence?

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  3. I’m a successful businessman; of course dumb luck plays a great deal in it. I think of it like sailing, you try to catch every breeze perfectly, but in the end the wind and ocean are most responsible. I’ve had good fortune and bad fortune, I like to believe my reaction, preperation, thought, effort, etc helped me cash in on the good fortune and alieve some of the bad. But I know that I am very lucky. Over 99% of the Internet startups of my time are gone.

    If someone is benefited by good brains, good family and good upbringing, they should be thankful, not take it as an insult to their personal pride. Its a small soul that has to take credit for their every success.

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  4. C’mon Roissy – “(and at present, the elites in America are mostly megaphone-wielding whites)”

    I’ll spell it out for your: J-E-W-S. Our elite is whites and Jews – and the Jews play the tune.

    TRad “Culture of Critique” – the cultural Marxists – a Jew movement – neutralized the white man, by getting him to work against his own interests: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Culture_of_Critique_series#The_Culture_of_Critique_1998

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  5. Succeeding at anything does require work, but people work hard at things they have an affinity for and are naturally good at. I never bother trying hard at things I have no interest in or no talent for.

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  6. I honestly think that black people understand this better than anyone. Never have I heard people more resigned to their fate than the dumbest of black people. I have a weird rapport with them… I think because I’m so incredibly nerdy and non-threatening. I don’t have any more status than them, despite my advantages. I actually had a black friend of mine tell me that the reason he couldn’t do some of the “smart crap” that I do is because he was black. And not in a joking tone!

    http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html

    I guess on the flip side, it’s easier to take your failures when you can chalk them up to dumb luck.

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  7. The hamster wheel of rationalisation spins just as fast when people consider their own success as when thinking about their sexual behavior.

    Social mobility is at a standstill or declining. People stay very close in most terms to whatever type of household they were born into.

    The idea that 95% of who we are and where we are in life is mostly just luck of birth, our genes, plus who are parents are – is simply too terrible for most people to accept.

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  8. Bring back old roissy pls. This blog is now run by people wuth poor reading comprehension.

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  9. Someone once said that if fascism came to America, it woudl come under the sign of the cross.

    That was then, this is now.

    Fascism is an authoritarian collusion of corporate and state interests. In the past, fascism used nationalism as a governing ideology. Since WW2, fascists saw that multiculturalism is more effective in increasing their power.

    Fascism is coming to America. It is coming under the banners of “tolerance” and “diversity.”

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  10. nassim taleb put it best:

    “it takes a lot of hard work to be good, but to reach greatness, it takes a lot of luck!”

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  11. roissy is back. anyone notice the difference in tone, word choice, linguistic fluidity and spleen ?

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  12. I don’t give a fuck!

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  13. How long will it take for a comment along the lines of “Finally!The real Roissy has returned and the little elves have have thrown outta the workshop!”

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  14. No shit Sherlock, do you let an editor spin the most obvious truths that every idiot older than 5 knows into some kind of try-hard magnum opus by using synonyms.net too much?

    First you rage on the leftists that say that everyone should share since succes is only based on dumb luck anyway. Then you rage of the conservatives when they say people should be rewarded for their actions with money and status because otherwise they won’t do shit!

    How about stop criticizing the whole freakin time and just trying to come up with any kind of solution.

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  15. on September 11, 2010 at 10:24 pm 1987 James Hetfield

    I had a teacher in college (a raging femtard, yes, but actually the most decent and down-to-earth of them I’ve known) rebut some student’s point about Steven Pinker by simply saying “evolutionary psychology” in a snarky way.

    As if all she had to do to rebut that whole, you know, idea of human nature was to mock the name of the field!

    These people are just fucking self-deceiving ideologue retards. They dont care about what is true any more than James Dobson or Joel Osteen.

    One of my few hopes in life is to live long enough to see the brown hordes storm the ivory towers.

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  16. on September 11, 2010 at 10:26 pm 1987 James Hetfield

    Not that the ivory towers are going to get singled out or anything, but I mean they wont be immune to our coming third world status…

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  17. Or… there really is a lot of untapped potential in most people.

    I’m not arguing that people don’t inherit beneficial/detrimental traits. But, the difference between bad and average, and average and good, can be influenced by study and practice. And in a society where most people are average, this is the difference between being stuck in the lower-middle class and making something of your life.

    To keep with the theme of this blog, most guys are fives, will marry fives (or lower), and have two kids who will be fives themselves. However, with decent game (i.e., study and practice), they have a good shot at regularly landing sixes or sevens. God forbid, if they correct their diet and regularly hit the gym, they also have a shot at (SHOCK) becoming sixes or sevens, landing eights (and, albeit rarely, nines), and starting a family with someone above their original potential.

    Can study and practice allow someone with no inherent potential to become great? No. But, it can allow them to become good enough to gain an advantage over their peers.

    Spread this over a couple of generations, and you can see why so many SWPLs profess this point of view.

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  18. ASPIRANT,
    Good comment. There are plenty of white people who don’t care all that much about academics. I recently had a girlfriend tell me that as long as her kids were popular and decent at sports she didn’t care that much about their grades. Even my dad used to be the most concerned about how I did in gym class.

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  19. hey, this post is the real roissy.

    how about a byline on each post?

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  20. […] Why The Elites Prop Up The Blank Slate « Citizen Renegade. This entry was posted in Daybook. Bookmark the permalink. ← Mercy and Justice. […]

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  21. For Citizen Renegade’s amusement:

    ESPN reporter Erin Andrew’s nude peephole video (that one man was sentenced for) here:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=dc4_1249497974

    She appears to be checking herself out in the mirror primping somewhat. She really does have a nice ass. The nude stuff starts about halfway it. Its funny, but I really think she is checking her own ass out in the mirror. Humorous.z

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  22. on September 12, 2010 at 12:01 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    hey roissy!!!!

    i need sum advice!!

    i am gettings seirous with this girl starting 2 get seriiouth we have been on three dates and i talked to her after sex both times and let her stay over unitl 3 am an dcuccle cuddle afer i splooged at 2:45 am on her face so its getting kinda serious.

    anywho she says that her feminsit instructuor telold her that it his her right she has a right to her own body and when we get married she can stil butthex and ginasex neocn sectriev tapers of butthex lzozlllzlzlllzl

    but i dunno i think that mght could e awkward like i come home and she is buthexing with a six foot tall neocon butthexul hero liek what am isupposed to do? videopatpe it so the weekly standadth wirtes about me and prsicilla painton sells more boooks at sodom and shcustster ?

    i mean idon’t want to seem like an old funfuddy duddy nor do i want o opress women like our evil grabparents and their granparnet s di iddiwho kept douchecock out of their daughters and wives and sisters anuthes butt at the same time i kinda think dat when a man is marrie to a women that if he wants the space in his bed next to his wife he shoudl get it even i bernanke is wirng fiat dollarz to his wife and large sums of bok savdances to secrteive tapers of butthex without teh girlths ocntehnt zlozlzlzlzozo

    anywayz she is coming over 2nite and i found this aweosme new pornochannel she can jerk me off too beofre we talkanbout the bneoncnon butthex rules of marriage like chekc the chcicka sucking the popsicle rmeinds me of her lzozlozzllzlzlzing on my cocka:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/katyperrymusic?blend=1&ob=4

    lzozlzlzllzozoz

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  23. It’s like that saying from Gattaga:
    “No one exceeds his potential. If it appear that way, it was not properly guaged in the first place.”

    Looking only at a person’s genetic quotient is a very limiting POV.

    Imagine if our species as a whole, threw up our hands and said “Well, we’re just a bunch of pink, violent apes. May as well only worry about survival and replication.”

    I always imagined humanity like this; but what Hamlet said with irony, I say with conviction:

    “What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason,
    how infinite in faculties, in form and moving!
    In Action, how like an Angel? In apprehension, how like a God? The beauty of the world, the paragon of animals.”

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  24. […] Citizen Renegade: The Two Exceptions To Game, Tough Times Are A Bounty For Betas, and Why The Elites Prop Up The Blank Slate […]

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  25. Isn’t it something to do with our fiat currency masters?

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  26. Could you name a few elite members?

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  27. 1987

    As if all she had to do to rebut that whole, you know, idea of human nature was to mock the name of the field!

    Females can barely think. They should not teach feminism. You will certainly wind up with broken thoughts being transmitted from femtard to femtard.

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  28. on September 12, 2010 at 2:34 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    “Joe Eoj

    Isn’t it something to do with our fiat currency masters?”

    lozozzlzozlzlozlozzlo everyone is a blank slate and if they go 2 da right shcools dey can beocme an assocking sercteive taper of neocon butthex like tucker max rhyumes with goldman sax and get wired hundreds of thousnads of dolalrs from priscilla painton bernanke dolalrs lzozozozl 4 desoulg and assocking girls your future wife assocking her and desouling her so jonah goldberg can send her forth 2 taem tame you now that she is more loyal to fiat butthax than fiath god family lzozozozlo which is why owmnez cause most of the divorces file for most of divorces and dutifuly fight in the noecon wars against the unborn lzozozol aborting over 50 million fethus lzozozzlozzlolzzolzlzolozzzlzzzozlzlzozzl butthex!!!!

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  29. on September 12, 2010 at 2:36 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    transferring assets from men in assraping sessions in doivorce courths divorce courts adter tehy were asscocked in coolege by serctiev taper s of butthex whoe the noencosn rept the oies about their ehigeht lies and your assets are transferried in assrapi9ng dirvoce court sessions after hshe was assocked so it is as it is and it is ass it ass from assets 2 assraping 2 assocked the neocn theme iuts butthex as goldman sax butthexes the peopel through a fiat currnency an tax on everyone lzozozlzo butthex lzozlolzo butthexing the world with fit debt zlzozllzlo

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  30. on September 12, 2010 at 2:37 am gunslingergregi

    This is where you come in king or did you use a misnomer in naming he he he

    The question would be what is elite?

    The 10,000 dollar question is actually almost the perfect number.

    10,000 times 10 equals 100,000.

    A hundred thousand is around what you need to move from poor to elite in comparison.

    Not every person can be president obviously but every person can put the ten thousand hours in and be a hell of a lot better off.

    It took me 6570 hours to reach elite (for me).

    Maybe that is why I ultimatly rejected it as being to easy.

    If I would have used it though it would have put me in perfect position to become the next level of elite and be in a position of power to get used to the power and then go for the next level of elite (for me).

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  31. on September 12, 2010 at 2:39 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    omg my girlfriend is here and hse does not know iof my double life as gbfm so here is how i talk to herlzozzozlozllz

    “Hello Sweety. How are you tonight?”
    “What would you like to do?”
    “I missed you very much all day. All I could do is think of you.”
    “bring da movies & lotsa cockak 4ulzozlzozlozlzzolzlz!!!!!!!!!!!!! beatch!!!!”

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  32. Evolutionary psych! NAMs! NAMs! Steve Sailer! NAMs! Roissy! NAM IQ!

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  33. on September 12, 2010 at 2:53 am gunslingergregi

    Not hard spanking normally mind you but I will slowly edge up the skirt and have her hold it.

    Then slowly edge up the panties and have her hold that.

    All the while she is in anticipation of the even wondering when I will actually spank that ass.

    Then I will just gently spank the but which she gets a kick out of as do I.

    he he he

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  34. Bored

    Can study and practice allow someone with no inherent potential to become great? No. But, it can allow them to become good enough to gain an advantage over their peers.

    Bored, you neglect to note that the very drive to study and learn and practice is itself inherited. All you’ve talked about is one gentically inherited trait overcoming another.

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  35. i just parked my range rover, watched an amazing woman get out of the passenger side…i don’t care how i got here. i am f’ing happy.

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  36. on September 12, 2010 at 3:30 am gunslingergregi

    ””ambleside
    i just parked my range rover, watched an amazing woman get out of the passenger side…i don’t care how i got here. i am f’ing happy.
    ”””’

    Yea mine made appearance earlier and yea checking her body out had an instant amplification of my happiness factor and smile percentage.

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  37. hear ya gunny

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  38. on September 12, 2010 at 4:31 am gunslingergregi

    ”””’If genes for intelligence, conscientiousness and discipline account for half or (probably) more of one’s success in life (i.e., success over others), then what does that say about the elite that doesn’t remove a large plank propping up their zealously guarded pride? What successful person really wants to hear that a big reason for their success was…

    dumb fucking luck?
    ””””’

    I think the biggest let down is the truth that anyone can do it.

    But that leads to loving others as you love yourself.

    And that leads to community.

    And that leads to happiness.

    And that leads to respect.

    And that leads to cool things.

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  39. on September 12, 2010 at 4:39 am gunslingergregi

    Community like a real community kind of gives you a catalyst to want to put in effort not just for yourself to be ok but for your community to be ok.

    Therein lies the sacrifice is worth it routine in the system.

    Therein lies the waking up and doing a job when you could just be dead and not worrying about shit.

    Something about a contract between those who have the drive to succeed better fucking be remembered correctly after they are dead by those who don’t so that those who may be inclined to succeed go ahead and put the work in to do so instead of just saying fuck it and being selfish.

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  40. on September 12, 2010 at 4:42 am gunslingergregi

    If everyone in the community is only looking to bring you down then as a successfull person you are not going to stay in the community to help it out. You will go where you are appreciated.

    Where people actually look up to and try to emulate success rather than trying to destroy it as we see in the west today.

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  41. I blame the Jews for propping up the “Blank Slate” ideology. Hell, they probably invented it (LOL!).

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  42. Have you seen this?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/7995844/Judges-told-be-more-lenient-to-women-criminals.html

    “British judges told to be more lenient to women”

    Quoting Supreme Court judge Baroness Hale, it added: “It is now well recognised that a misplaced conception of equality has resulted in some very unequal treatment for women and girls.”

    Equal punishments for equal crimes equals inequality? Fuck you, Britain, you great mass of slack-jawed, bovine retards. Fuck you to hell.

    Godspeed to the Muslim hordes, I say. The feminists will regret neutering their nation when the tipping point arrives. So swings the pendulum.

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  43. on September 12, 2010 at 5:26 am gunslingergregi

    Yea but woman haven’t been treated equally in any way shape or form so umm yea kind of old news almost like trying to say they have been treated equal even though it is not the case. Almost like saying they did earn what they got or where they are now. he he he

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  44. on September 12, 2010 at 5:28 am gunslingergregi

    The asians got pretty good at deflecting hate onto muslim goat herders and shit lol

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  45. ASPIRANT,
    Good comment. There are plenty of white people who don’t care all that much about academics. I recently had a girlfriend tell me that as long as her kids were popular and decent at sports she didn’t care that much about their grades. Even my dad used to be the most concerned about how I did in gym class.

    I don’t think you really read my comment.

    Also, gunslingergregi are you high right now? I’m enjoying your comments. I should smoke more often myself…

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  46. on September 12, 2010 at 5:46 am Citizen Valtrex

    The self-annointed “Elites” are all idiots.

    Most colleges are so dumbed down now via affirmative action and Leftist propaganda that it’s a misnomer to consider someone ‘smart’ with a ‘current’ degree of any kind.

    There is no excuse for being stupid any longer.

    You can google your damned education and steal stuff online to learn.

    lol

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  47. on September 12, 2010 at 5:50 am gunslingergregi

    ”””””Also, gunslingergregi are you high right now? I’m enjoying your comments. I should smoke more often myself…”””””

    Just endorphins from being treated like a king or god he he he

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  48. on September 12, 2010 at 5:52 am gunslingergregi

    No shit right I mean you can learn how to program for free online.

    Not that I have done it but I have requested some material from a company as a catalyst to do it for free for them lol

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  49. on September 12, 2010 at 5:56 am gunslingergregi

    lol I had to look up valtrex a herpes medication.

    That is a good one.

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  50. on September 12, 2010 at 5:58 am gunslingergregi

    Get yourself a woman with a ten body but not a ten face.

    It is worth it.

    Although I do wonder what it will be like to have a stable of hot chicks to do my bidding.

    Will I be high all the time?

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  51. on September 12, 2010 at 6:00 am gunslingergregi

    Oh wait I just realized I am on meds lol

    woops ok so maybe I should always take 4 pills 3 times a day.

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  52. on September 12, 2010 at 6:01 am gunslingergregi

    hmmm kind of makes me think I should go to va and let them give me some pills to take the edge off.

    My dad suggested it lol

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  53. on September 12, 2010 at 6:15 am gunslingergregi

    Ok I looked apparently these fuckers know what they are doing I got some good shit he he he

    Told you man us medicine is shit compared to people making almost no money and doing it because they actually care and for respect.

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  54. on September 12, 2010 at 6:18 am Citizen Valtrex

    greg, don’t bogart the good shit.

    What the hell are you on, man?

    All I have handy is some cheap beer and shitty weed.

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  55. on September 12, 2010 at 6:25 am gunslingergregi

    My wife did say that apparently they actually have technieques here that make people not crazy anymore.

    Like they can cure them.

    She also said though that I am not crazy so am good he he he

    Not telling na na na

    na na na

    he he he

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  56. on September 12, 2010 at 6:57 am gunslingergregi

    If only I could have been in that building as a fireman.

    She should have immediatly connected with his wife in that circumstance.

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  57. on September 12, 2010 at 7:02 am Citizen Valtrex

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  58. on September 12, 2010 at 7:03 am gunslingergregi

    sissillian1
    5 hours ago 911 operators really don’t have a fucking clue, do they? Jeez…let’s ask stupid irrelevant questions. That’s so helpful. Can’t get the flight # correct, can’t get her name correct. Sad. What a way to go, to have to talk to idiots right before you die

    Maybe be a good job to recruit former soldiers for so that you have people who have been in life or death situations.

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  59. on September 12, 2010 at 7:03 am Citizen Valtrex

    We must NEVER forget 9/11

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  60. on September 12, 2010 at 7:04 am Citizen Valtrex

    9/11 ops are horrendous.

    People who are close to death should be treated better than that.

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  61. on September 12, 2010 at 7:12 am gunslingergregi

    She said someone got stabbed in business class.

    And the dude doesn’t say shit.

    She said nobody knows who stabbed who.

    The door won’t open.

    Then says 2 people were stabbed.

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  62. on September 12, 2010 at 7:14 am Citizen Valtrex

    Makes your blood boil, huh, greg?

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  63. on September 12, 2010 at 7:16 am gunslingergregi

    Like I said my boss said I was their only crisis manager.

    I ask the right questions and keep people from getting killed and get the right people responding to the right job.

    And yet I was let go he he he

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  64. on September 12, 2010 at 7:19 am gunslingergregi

    But yea apparently you know bud you don’t get to do that because we are not going to give you the same courtesy we would a minority or woman when your sick.

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  65. on September 12, 2010 at 7:20 am gunslingergregi

    In addition to that you know bud we don’t really give a shit about people doing a good job. We only care about people that are the right minority having a job.

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  66. on September 12, 2010 at 7:22 am Citizen Valtrex

    A black woman handled one of the 9/11 calls with class. Don’t hate on all black folks, greg.

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  67. on September 12, 2010 at 7:30 am gunslingergregi

    Well no when I say minority I mean everyone but us white men.

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  68. on September 12, 2010 at 7:31 am gunslingergregi

    And I am positive that even if you are black I have spent more time with black people than you have.

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  69. on September 12, 2010 at 7:34 am gunslingergregi

    Liberal whites hate black people all of them

    I just hate niggers.

    Well actually I don’t even hate niggers.

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  70. on September 12, 2010 at 7:41 am gunslingergregi

    ”””’Citizen Valtrex
    A black woman handled one of the 9/11 calls with class. Don’t hate on all black folks, greg.
    ””””

    It is people that say shit like this that hate black people.

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  71. Leftists (it’s usually leftists in my experience, but Roissy’s beigey-type establishment liberal conservatives are just as bad) aren’t just being irritating and discrediting themselves when they sneer at evolutionary psychology, they’re doing a disservice to the human race. If we don’t accept our residual animal instincts, we can’t have an honest discussion about them and how they affect the human experience, let alone move humanity forward.

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  72. there is hate, then there is disgust

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  73. on September 12, 2010 at 8:17 am gunslingergregi

    Good point I am disgusted when I see what they do to the weak.

    Kind of like when I am somewhat disgusted seeing a lion take down an injured animal.

    I think that may be why they do prey on the weak.

    It may actually be out of kindness when they to remove the weak from the system and put them out of misery.

    I just wasn’t weak enough he he he

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  74. on September 12, 2010 at 8:34 am Anonymouses Anonymous

    @Ryu
    “It’s like that saying from Gattaga:
    “No one exceeds his potential. If it appear that way, it was not properly guaged in the first place.” ”

    Ryu, unlike computers, which can only achieve what is programmed into them, people have inspiration. That is, some of us are gifted with thinking thoughts that have never been thought. Isaac Asimov could be an example of this. Albert Einstein is another.Steven Hawking is another.

    The thing is, inspiration can inspire new thought in others who have never been inspired before.

    You could argue that potential dictatesd that.

    I would argue it is like gunpowder. Each chemical on its own has little or no potential flammability. Combined the explosion is phenominal. Even so, skill without inspiration will amount to little. The potential of skill without inspiration is very low. But, inspired skill will get a man to the moon.

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  75. on September 12, 2010 at 8:40 am gunslingergregi

    Oh I see in your video there was a black woman I hadn’t seen it yet.

    The pentagon one.

    Yea just goes to show how not ready we are for perfect war.

    The games over.

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  76. Gun, nonsense. Blacks hit in packs, because 1-on-1, they are too cowardly, they know they may get a can of whupass. And in packs, they don’t discriminate between weak or strong, because they’ve got numbers. They are hyenas, not wolves.

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  77. on September 12, 2010 at 8:51 am gunslingergregi

    Which overcame there fear of my lone white self. he he he

    Or they were nice enough to give me what I wanted but not quite.

    They didn’t live up to hype even in a pack.

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  78. doe sanyone have a tranquilizer gun?

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  79. on September 12, 2010 at 8:54 am gunslingergregi

    Or maybe they didn’t fuck me up to bad because they repected my

    come to you unafraid type action.

    And then I reciprocated by not killing them.

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  80. on September 12, 2010 at 8:56 am gunslingergregi

    lol dana I am trying to see if I can get the government to give me a call and either 2 to the head or a check to shut me the fuck up.

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  81. on September 12, 2010 at 9:03 am Anonymouses Anonymous

    Mandelbot, let it go already! There were 20 people involved in 9/11, 19 of which died that day.

    On top of that, the original report was that the five dancing men were Palestinians, not Jews. I’ve seen the video of the dancing 5. The men shown were not the men in the video.

    Add to that, the hundreds of thousands of Islamic men and women shown dancing in the streets of Middle Eastern countries after news hit them about the fall of the Towers.

    You are so full of shit that responding to you is a waste of time, except to help prevent your lie from confusing others.

    So, my only response to you is to suck it.

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  82. on September 12, 2010 at 9:14 am gunslingergregi

    Or they will give somone like chelsea the opportunity to be in a think tank but yet what is she gonna think about with no experience?

    Kind of like overeducated book people can only rehash ideas found in books while if you don’t read books you have to come up with your very own shit non plagerized.

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  83. on September 12, 2010 at 9:24 am gunslingergregi

    Like I said a couple days after 9/11 the fucking military in germany hired fucking security guards from germany and only a couple instead of arming its own troops to be able to protect themselves in case of an attack.

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  84. on September 12, 2010 at 9:26 am gunslingergregi

    The army has no fucking mass readiness excercise to arm its troops in the even of instantaneous conflict.

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  85. Gun, yea, them niggas sometimes find that they get a can of whupass even 3-on 1. I am against killing unless there is no other way… One just have to make sure they don’t remember anything afterward. LOL!

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  86. on September 12, 2010 at 9:29 am gunslingergregi

    Russia could have blitzkrieged all of fucking europe by the time the fucking soldiers got ammo.

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  87. Gun, If shit hit the fan for real it would be a giant clusterfuck.

    Not “if”, “when”.

    Otherwise… Gun for SecDef!

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  88. on September 12, 2010 at 9:31 am gunslingergregi

    Right now in iraq if iran would attack in mass we would be completely fucked up.

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  89. “The army has no fucking mass readiness excercise ”

    That is horrifying. The “elite” doesn’t even seem to have a sense of self-preservation, given how they’ve undermined the armed forces of the West.

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  90. I have a more simplistic view. People who got or maintained wealth through personal effort tend to reject the blank slate. This is why the farming class tends to be more conservative, because for it wealth requires more personal effort relative to other classes.

    Even in finance, I’d say that people who work at IB or trading desks tend to be much more denialists of blank slatism than people who work is less effort-intensive areas like Sales or Research.

    Because today a great part of the ELite does not make personal effort (i.e, NGOs, NY Times columnist, top-tier public sector workers…) and actually depends on someone else’s efforts to get their money, the blank slates serves as a rationalization of their status.

    To all the people whose jobs do not add anything to GDP and thus depend on the transference of someone else’s work results, the blank slate gives them the excuse for it. THe blank slate allows the idle classes to blame the ones who pay for them, instead of themselves, and justifies the alliance between the idle classes at the far right and the left side of the bell curve needed to outnumber the wealth producing classes

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  91. on September 12, 2010 at 9:46 am gunslingergregi

    That is interesting see what I mean about woman being involved he he he

    Told son to do everything you can to overpower plane.

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  92. It shouldn’t be forgotten that for most people on the far right corner of the bell curve, the only contact they have with NAMs is with the créme de la créme of them, if it happens at all.

    It is just like Indians (i.e Aztecs, Yanomamis and Aymarás): the closer is someone’s contact with them, the worse the opinion they have about them. From which follows that if your only contact with Indians is through Discovery Channel or National Geographic, you can’t but hate Cristopher COlumbus

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  93. I’m a successful businessman; of course dumb luck plays a great deal in it. I think of it like sailing, you try to catch every breeze perfectly, but in the end the wind and ocean are most responsible

    It is amazing how the ocean, lacking inteligence of itsown, manages to choose always the same bunch of winners.

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  94. Right now in iraq if iran would attack in mass we would be completely fucked up.

    I disagree guns. The age of secret troop movements is over, all the great powers of today know instantaneouly of any movement of regular infantry anywhere on Earth

    And the greatest power of all, America, has the resources to hit any hostile gathering of infantry forces before they even knew what hit them

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  95. @Mark: The idea that 95% of who we are and where we are in life is mostly just luck of birth, our genes, plus who are parents are – is simply too terrible for most people to accept.

    Yes, for to realise that one’s inadequacies (appearance, abilities, etc) are actually genetically influenced is pretty damning, so people do all sorts of mental gymnastics and force everyone to ‘accept’ that it’s because they were hard done by. That is the essence of Leftism.

    @1987 James Hetfield: I had a teacher in college (a raging femtard, yes, but actually the most decent and down-to-earth of them I’ve known) rebut some student’s point about Steven Pinker by simply saying “evolutionary psychology” in a snarky way.

    As if all she had to do to rebut that whole, you know, idea of human nature was to mock the name of the field!

    These people are just fucking self-deceiving ideologue retards. They dont care about what is true any more than James Dobson or Joel Osteen.

    These people subconsciously know the burden of truth lays on them, so they resort to name-calling, social ostracism, sarcasm, etc.

    One of my few hopes in life is to live long enough to see the brown hordes storm the ivory towers.

    Hopefully the occupants will die of a cognitive dissonance induced heart attack before they get savaged!

    @Bored in DC: Can study and practice allow someone with no inherent potential to become great? No. But, it can allow them to become good enough to gain an advantage over their peers.

    It is certainly true that applying yourself can to an extent help you rise above your natural disadvantage (this site for example teaches guys about improving their SMV), but the problem is that SWPLs tend to assume that a ‘disadvantaged’ person necessarily has unlocked potential to be Superman if they so wish. We’ve seen the disastrous knock-on effects of societal levelling-down in the past 30 years, and the government media loves playing up these success stories. The “apply yourself and you can achieve great things” aspect is a good thing, but not any aspect of it that implies that people are great by default or should expect to receive fortunes on a platter.

    The way I see it is “you may or may not have drawn the genetic short straw, try your best regardless, see what your strengths are”

    @Da Truth: I blame the Jews for propping up the “Blank Slate” ideology. Hell, they probably invented it (LOL!).

    In case you are being serious, true some people who happen to be Jewish have done their part in spreading it, it’s not some complicit effort on the part of ‘the Jews’ to undermine natural social hierarchies. Granted, I can imagine them typically holding such views as a society with less conception of ‘human nature’ will more likely be hospitable to the diaspora. Ashkenazim are just clever like that.

    Steven Pinker is an example of a Jew who isn’t a Blank Slater.

    @7: Godspeed to the Muslim hordes, I say. The feminists will regret neutering their nation when the tipping point arrives. So swings the pendulum.

    Progressive naivety will be the death of us. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, in a nutshell. Muslims must have far less respect for us Europeans than they did back during the Crusades and Ottoman wars. Now we scarcely have the balls to stick up for ourselves. What wry expressions they must have as they walk all over kowtowing Westerners.

    I would like a SWPL cull if there weren’t shades of SWPLism in every white middle/upper-classer, where sadly the best parts of our genepool are.

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  96. the modern elite are all nominalist in basic philosophy and are uniquely unconcerned whether their views map reality or even their own life experience. they care only that their arguments fit together coherently in the symbolic logic sense, irrespective of their truth content. their belief system is a word game, nothing more, nothing less. id bet dollar to donuts the more blank slate a person is, the more likely they are to use references to works of FICTION to bolster their arguments, an astonishing tendency that never ceases to amuse me.

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  97. on September 12, 2010 at 10:56 am Gunslingergregi`

    Yea dana that is why I don’t base my plan for being able to exterminate the worlds population on fiction but on the capability of the appache gun mount.

    I like to deal in realism.

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  98. This is a more fitting tribute to 9-11 than people realize.

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  99. Elites largely get NO pussy.

    From Gore to Clinton to HP CEO, they are always married to hippos….cheating with ho’s

    This Orszag guy married a russian newscaster hottie…six months later he was booted by the Harpie committee that regulates fatties for Elite pussy.

    Find me one hot Elite wife???

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  100. on September 12, 2010 at 11:16 am Gunslingergregi`

    Which I didn’t see in the military but on youtube.

    This isn’t even apache

    Yea tough guys when us loses technilogical edge what do you think its gonna look like for us especially if nobody gives a fuck about casualties.

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  101. on September 12, 2010 at 11:21 am Gunslingergregi`

    Or lets say you want to exterminate everything.

    Then you just have to line up all the little red dots running around or laying down or still with beating hearts.

    Picture a million of those.

    Made cheaply.

    Yea ok.

    Technology in place already to wipe out world no tough guy shit can help it game over.

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  102. The comments at first were excellent, and now I’m just tired of scrolling through Mr. Gunslinger’s posts. Someone ban this guy–he’s a functional troll, even though he may not intend to be one.

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  103. […] Why The Elites Prop Up The Blank Slate « Citizen Renegade Posted on September 12, 2010 by The LP 999 Why The Elites Prop Up The Blank Slate « Citizen Renegade. […]

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  104. Astrology is more or less my religion. I have practiced it for many years at an advanced level. Astrology teaches that all of the major factors of our life, the challenges we face as well as the tools we are given to face those challenges are present at birth and form a sort of blue print for one’s life. The challenges, tools, geographic location, as well as the cumulative actions of all of society and its members in the past conspire to determine our lives. We are judged in the afterlife based on how we master those challenges and still attain a sufficient degree of self knowledge and aspire to virtue and the degree to which we achieve virtue.

    The above essay touches on all of the elements in the conceit of the elites. Blank slatism is merely a new rationalization for an eglitarian inspired age. In the past nobility formed because society readily accepted that certain people had better character than others and that this was inheritable. The best way to achieve a virtuous class of people was through intermarriage among them. That is how men saw these questions in the past. In India, the caste system reinforces this notion as those born into higher castes are seen as having been rewarded for virtuous conduct in previous lives. Hence a mechanism for showing contempt towards the poor is built in to society via religion in Hindu culture.

    Luck plays a role, in the case of large amounts of inherited wealth, a huge role. But the real mark of success, and all of these people know it, is the man who achieves through virtue, honesty, diligence and genius. A Napoleon or Wellington, Marius, Scipio, Ceaser, Phillip of Macedon, is worth 1000 Louis Bourbons. Every elite lives in fear and denial of this very knowledge.

    Long term aristocratic families in Europe have long known this and seek to raise their children with artificially induced hardship in order to give them character building experiences. This is the principle reason nobility saw military service as critical once it became no longer their main pastime. This is also a major element in the concept of noblesse obliges. As we know, even in Europe, many do not achieve these ideals. Our elites, being once removed fom the Old World culture, have only a superficial concept of this and in their lack of thorough analysis, have instead chosen to pretend they have invented their own flavor of rationalization for why they are superior. We will always admire more the man who overcomes hardship to achieve success. That is why so many of these people seek to mimic that idea. It is also why I believe in the free market, so it doesn’t have to be mimicked by so many.

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  105. “They want to squeeze the middle class — their main competitors — and establish a virtual hereditary aristocracy of globalized ruling class transnationalists. Patriotism, religion, tribalism, and ethnic kinship all work against that goal.”

    This.

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  106. They are creating artificial social obstacles designed to make it difficult for less intelligent whites to navigate their way into polite society, thus selectively filtering for only the most socially savvy to rise to the top.

    This is what it’s like to be a minority in america, even the smartest of minorities…couldn’t possibly navigate “the game”…unless “selected” usually for a very specific purpose…

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  107. America is predicated the illusion of equality of opportunity… Jefferson stated as much. This fallacy doomed the republic from the start… Persuit of happiness created the pretext for decadence.

    By setting an impossible goal, they made the organizing principle the impossible task of creating equality. Hence establishing the need for the state’s encroachment.

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  108. real success comes from doing your best at whatever you want while remaining indifferent to the outcome.

    this thinking is the difference between winning and losing poker players: the objective is to play whatever hand that you are dealt in order to maximize your return, regardless of whether you win or lose the pot.

    obviously someone born 7 feet tall would stand to have a better chance at making the NBA than someone who is 5 feet tall, just like if my opponent in poker was given two Kings and I had a 97.

    so people who derive their sense of self-worth from accomplishments and “elite” social status have a of special type of insecurity:

    thinking that they EARNED whatever the world gave them. as if they could make that same accomplishment if they grew up in Afghanistan as a child with one leg missing because a mine exploded while he played soccer, or they grew up in a trailer park to am drunk, abusive father and a mother addicted to speed.

    for me to poop on.

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  109. Duxbury, awesome mental gymnastics.

    I gotta run, can someone please fisk him thoroughly?

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  110. Wow, imagine this, another fucking pity party for the betas. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! whaaaaaaaaaaaa! whaaaaaaaaaaa! Let’s all sit in a circle and suck each others dick while bawling our eyes out and badmouthing the top of the pyramid. Hey, whatever it takes to cope with your deepest knowledge that you don’t have the balls to make it to the top of the hill. “THEY WERE BORN INTO IT!” “THEY WERE GIFTED WITH SUPERIOR GENES!” “THEY WERE JUST LUCKY!” And when it is pointed out that numerous scientific studies validate that success at complex tasks is almost exclusively a function of dedicated effort towards a singular purpose, the cries of “THEY WERE BORN WITH THE GENES OF CONSCIENTIOUSNESS, DISCIPLINE AND ACCOUNTABILITY, THEREFORE THEY SUCCEEDED INSPITE OF THEMSELVES!”

    What a bunch of fucking losers. It’s no wonder your lives are a disappointment; you make excuses and avoid the source of your avoidance triggering anxiety, while the winners are facing their fears head on, dedicating themselves to practice, learning from their mistakes, internalizing their successes (confidence) and repeating the whole process.

    Now the losers -having their pathetic excuses exposed- will cry out “BUT BUT BUT A RETARD CAN’T BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! SEE SEE!” OK, you got me, you are right. Spend your entire life unemployed reading seduction articles and beating off to youporn in your 2 bedroom condo and the few of you who were “gifted” with great genes will wake up one day a world class golfer living in an seaside mansion with a harem of supermodels committing suicide when you don’t return their phone call.

    The sooner you lazy bitches drop the victim mentality and locate the purse your balls are hidden in, the sooner you can climb the ladder to the top of your potential and enjoy the good life. Otherwise, just become an alcoholic and rot away as the meme of “I WAS BORN THIS WAY!” protects your eggshell egos.

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  111. Psycho wins the prize for the most “no u” comment on any Chateau post. Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick.

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  112. “Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.” that is beautiful

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  113. Tyrone is correct. My family is old school english aristocracy and the old prep schools all indoctrinated stoicism (rugby anyone?) and ” muscular Christianity”. The old empire went down in flames because they exhausted themselves fighting the krauts. After WWII, voted out Churchill, set about with decadent socialism and the rest is history. The collapse was swift.

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  114. the idea is to tell yourself to shut the fuck up and go do what is takes to get what you really want or die trying. and if you get it, shut the fuck up about it. everything else is masturbation.

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  115. Morsellewx??? WTF you name?

    Not rocket science, chum.., if a country is based on the concept of all men are created equal, you can’t go around stating the obvious. Democracy, by definition, weighs men equally… If that isn’t human nature then you’ve got yourself a conflict. Naturally a democracy’s elite will proport equality. Roissy is shooting inthe dark with his theories to explain the obvious. Who wants to vote for elitism… You ate outnumbered 20 to 1 by the unwashed masses and deluded.

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  116. TG said:

    “This is what it’s like to be a minority in america, even the smartest of minorities…couldn’t possibly navigate “the game”…unless “selected” usually for a very specific purpose…”

    America is a white country. If you don’t have a triple digit IQ, you are screwed. Majority of minorities besides Asians have double digit IQ’s. I think you already know where I’m going with this.

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  117. jimbocreed, and yet, you come here to speak you piece, instead of following your creed. Funny that.

    There is a saying: “Smart people learn from their mistakes. Smarter people learn from mistakes of others.”

    Ever thought of that?

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  118. ””””””gig
    Right now in iraq if iran would attack in mass we would be completely fucked up.

    I disagree guns. The age of secret troop movements is over, all the great powers of today know instantaneouly of any movement of regular infantry anywhere on Earth

    And the greatest power of all, America, has the resources to hit any hostile gathering of infantry forces before they even knew what hit them
    ””””’

    In a way sure but there is a thing called missiles and you can point them at things and if they are within a 100 miles of every target then you know when they launch a high volume (they have what 10,000) at one time and also know where everything is because of satellites of their own then you know whoever strikes first is gonna do most damage. Lets say it was a coordinated multi country strike though in us and out.
    Then you just realized you lost your military and all that are left are liberal fags. Or lets say for instance they suddenly decide to create some I don’t know optical devices to be able to actually aim a fucking gun correctly.
    Yea Yea that would be bad. So now your airplanes and helicopters suddenly don’t have an advantage overnight because of one technilogical change that defeats your whole fucking army.

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  119. on September 12, 2010 at 5:19 pm Gunslingergregi

    Area optical implants in soil.

    Over large area.

    Able to detect all moving object and predict a pattern of velocity and exact movement combined with guns.

    High volume capability of system.

    For defense.

    But yea why we do need to go mass production on uav’s in order to be able to overcome a game changing technological event that takes away our air superiority.

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  120. “Fascism is coming to America. It is coming under the banners of “tolerance” and “diversity.””

    Coming? It has been here, and shall be extracted soon enough.

    As for the thrust of this post — genetic determinism needs a hospitable environment to express itself. The two are intertwined.

    The US historically happens to be the best at allowing talented people to have world-historical (or simply world) impact. Some places do not. It’s that simple — can’t have one without the other.

    “America is predicated the illusion of equality of opportunity… Jefferson stated as much. This fallacy doomed the republic from the start… Persuit of happiness created the pretext for decadence.”

    There’s so much wrong with this I don’t know where to start.

    “Equality of opportunity” isn’t a fallacy – an ideal, perhaps. “Equality of outcome” that the left has written into “equality” is certainly a fallacy. Outcomes have never been equal under the most draconian totalitarian regimes in history.

    If equality of opportunity is a fallacy, then so is the notion of any type of equality, since that of “opportunity” is a rather restricted subset.

    You speak of decadence as if this is something unique and inherent to the US. But, in historical (and even contemporary) terms, this is just ridiculous. Even today, Europe is considerably more decadent (in throes to multiculturalism, socialist elitism and cultural Marxism) than the US.

    America’s history of great religious awakenings runs counter to the meme of decadence you’re positing. If you do not understand this phenomenon, you don’t really understand the US.

    By setting an impossible goal, they made the organizing principle the impossible task of creating equality. Hence establishing the need for the state’s encroachment.

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  121. Morsellaux:

    I’ll remain free to share my thoughts and opinions for whoever feels they can benefit from them.

    If you are interested in putting others down to “teach a lesson,” then so be it.

    If you think you know me or that I don’t put my money where my mouth is after reading one or two of my posts on the internet, then… okay.

    When you see me talking about something I want instead of taking action to get it, then call me out. I will send you my address. Have a good evening.

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  122. on September 12, 2010 at 6:32 pm Gunslingergregi

    Well ok what I have really wanted is to die trying but reality sadly is not like movies and it is harder than you could possibly imagine to do it in a way that is not illegal and a way that you get to be a hero.

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  123. on September 12, 2010 at 6:35 pm Gunslingergregi

    Ok so maybe it is like the movies wow how bout that the hero doesn’t usually die right?

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  124. jimbocreed putting others down

    Excellent projection, re-read your own post. Congrats, you really mastered it.

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  125. on September 12, 2010 at 6:49 pm Gunslingergregi

    Not that I can do it any other way though lol

    Therein lies the dilema.

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  126. on September 12, 2010 at 6:54 pm Gunslingergregi

    Your prob right I should go get it and then drop out to let my fellow man fend for himself while enjoying an easy life.

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  127. Morsellaux, I’m calling you out, fuck boy. I am putting you down now, because I never said anything to you but you opened your mouth like a bitch.

    The post and discussion is about “elite” people bragging about their own hard work and praising themselves for it. My two cents was a general comment that people should put in their hard work to get what they want, and when they get it, they shouldn’t brag about all the effort and hard work they made.

    Your response was directed specifically at someone to criticize them, thinking that if I say that people shouldn’t talk about doing what they want, then I must be guilty of not following my own advice.

    I challenge you to show me where I said that I wanted something, but was stuck in inaction. Because you can’t, faggot.

    No more talk on the internet. If you have anything else to say, you can say it to my face. I live in Queens, NY. My e-mail is attached, and my schedule is “flexible.”

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  128. Props to Psycho for:

    “The sooner you lazy bitches drop the victim mentality and locate the purse your balls are hidden in, the sooner you can climb the ladder to the top of your potential and enjoy the good life. Otherwise, just become an alcoholic and rot away as the meme of “I WAS BORN THIS WAY!” protects your eggshell egos.”

    and jimbocreed for:

    “the idea is to tell yourself to shut the fuck up and go do what is takes to get what you really want or die trying. and if you get it, shut the fuck up about it. everything else is masturbation.”

    In other words: “When the going gets tough, the tough get going” or, even better, “Come back with your shield or on it!”

    The elite right now are such status-conscious venal SWPL self-congratulatory lace-up sandal wearing ethnic chauvinist win-the-argument-by-shouting-the-loudest douchebag pussies you should be thanking God Almighty the Alpha the Omega the prime mover for a chance to kick their effin progressive cultural marxist Frankfurt school asses! What’s the matter, you don’t like a good fight?

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  129. Just a general ‘well done’ on this post.

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  130. “America is predicated the illusion of equality of opportunity… Jefferson stated as much. This fallacy doomed the republic from the start… Persuit [sic] of happiness created the pretext for decadence.”

    Something tells me, Duxbury, that you are not an American. Certainly not in spirit.

    You need to have some context in order to understand the concepts the Founding Fathers (FF) expressed in their documents.

    The predominant political mode of organizing of the society at the time was monarchy. Whether constitutional or absolute, this system based on privilege by virtue of birth (nobility) was considered by FF outdated and inappropriate and inadequate for the modern times and they came up with the concept of “We, the people” as a self-governing entity to signify the radical departure from the political order of the times.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    The “created equal” denotes the concept that no one should have a legally codified privilege by the virtue of birth or heredity, and in it is implied the concept of equality of opportunity–no initial favoritism of one man over another. Once again, I emphasize “legally codified privilege”. Of course, some men grow up short, some wide, some slow, some become lame. But that does not preclude any of them to achieve any goal they choose, a priori.

    You may point out that some men are born into “privileged” families and by that virtue they have a head start. But that is not something that is legally codified. Anyone with an ambition, will and hard work can overcome social constraints because there is no legal barrier standing in the way. That is the meaning of the “created equal”, and by implication equality of opportunity.

    So, what about that “pursuit of happiness” stuff? This is not some carte blanche for hedonism as you interpret it. It is tied to equality of opportunity and the meaning is that when men set their goals, which is part of their Liberty, achieving these goals results in Happiness, which they are free to pursuit, because they are not beholden to a “legally codified privilege” and they have unalienable right to Life,a fundamental right that underwrites the rest.

    Now to the decadence. What is decadence? Decay and decline. What is the primary cause of the decadence? As we move further away from the original “We hold these truths to be self-evident”, we are losing out moral and intellectual clarity. The more the equality of opportunity is supplanted by equality of outcomes, the more is the initial set of self-evident precepts eroded and our moral compass is fading into oblivion.

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  131. on September 12, 2010 at 7:46 pm gunslingergregi

    Well I did it jimbo.

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  132. jimbocreed, I think I may have confused you with psycho. Multitasking is not my strong suit, sometimes. I was trying to respond to both him and you, but somehow that got mixed up.

    I re-read your post and you are right what I was responding to was not there. My apology.

    BTW, note that I’ve never called you names.

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  133. so you arent going to meet a guy who calle dyou out on the internet for a fight then?

    phew

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  134. Dana, I am on the other side of the continent. If jimbocreed feels that the challenge stands, he can fly over to Vancouver at his leasure and we can sort it out here.

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  135. It is tied to equality of opportunity and the meaning is that when men set their goals, which is part of their Liberty, achieving these goals results in Happiness, which they are free to pursuit, because they are not beholden to a “legally codified privilege” and they have unalienable right to Life,a fundamental right that underwrites the rest.

    I know this sounds rather circular, but it really is. 😉
    Like a pieces of a whole, you take one out and it all crumbles.

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  136. @Cyning
    “Psycho wins the prize for the most “no u” comment on any Chateau post. Talk about getting the wrong end of the stick.”

    There isn’t a single example of ‘no u’ in my post you moron. If you wanted to characterize the debate technique I used it is clearly occupatio.

    You’d probably do a lot better in life if you gave up on the “I’m so educated and witty” mask you wear. You wouldn’t come across as such a phony.

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  137. Morsellaux,

    It’s all good. Everyone makes mistakes. A few years ago, I made the biggest one of all when I came close to committing suicide. Stay strong.

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  138. jimbocreed, re almost suicide…

    wimminz? (I am faintly hearing that 80’s song from FYC, “She drives me crazy”)

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  139. hahaha, no. can’t kill yourself over a bitch. 99 other problems.

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  140. truthfully, most of my time, I see women as a distraction to my goals, but can’t help that I was born with desire.

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  141. Snoeperd says, “How about stop criticizing the whole freakin time and just trying to come up with any kind of solution.”

    The solution to blank slatism is not to buy it. Simply take a good look at yourself, what you like to do, and what you’re good at, and push forward as far as you can.

    It’s not hard because you’re just doing what naturally comes to you instead of looking at what other people are doing or what the trends are.

    Since people need a leader to tell them what to do though, teachers can draw a line in the stand, and stop letting themselves be forced to essentially play the violin to cows. I read more than one article from teachers trying to teach in predominantly Black schools. Intellectuals of all races and colors come up with the same frustrations.

    My dad went from enthusiastic about changing the world and “each one teach one” to counting the days until his retirement. My mom, who teaches kids with learning disabilities’ heart breaks every day. I wonder how she doesn’t actually have the nervous breakdown she has been on the edge of every day after school for nearly 40 years.

    It’s not that anyone should give up on any group, but they should be being taught according to the realities of their culture, situation, and yes, racial tendencies, not under some imaginary standard, which is what blank slatism is.

    I’m sorry, but Black students need to have the threat of someone whooping their ass in order to behave. We’re naturally critical, assertive, socially pushy people, and if there is blood in the water…

    I’ve been told similar things about Russian kids from certain areas. Teachers here went through maybe two or three years of the kinder, gentler way before they intelligently went back to “we will physically restrain you and then call your parents”.

    Most of the kids who are real problems in school here are those from single mother homes. Single father homes don’t usually have hellians.

    Someone, I’m sure, is going to scream child abuse, but you know there is a difference between physical discipline and abuse. Kids need to have limits, and some kids with some kinds of tendencies need to have those limits enforced more realistically than theorhetically than others.

    Taking spanking out of the schools is a good idea because the teachers aren’t the parents, and don’t necessarily know the kids as well. Blank slating people as all the same and all aided by the same type of upbringing, and removing even the ability to restrain kids, as well as tying the parents hands against spanking was just dumb and devastating.

    Now, threats of lawsuits have teachers scared, and threats of jail have the parents scared…while real child abuse goes on barely dealt with because it’s mostly women or mom’s drunk boyfriend doing it.

    So it’s a ripple effect, but an extremely damaging one. When you consider the minds that have been wasted because of something that doesn’t even cost money: the ability to say no to a kid and have it mean something.

    Some psychologist decided that everybody is irreparably damaged by the threat that if they hit another student, their teacher is going to yank them out of class and their parents are going to whoop their butt, so everybody has to tow the line.

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  142. on September 12, 2010 at 9:10 pm gunslingergregi

    Well if you came close it is a hell of a lot harder to finalize that shit than you might think which is actually the problem.
    I have been unable to commit suicide which pretty much leaves you fucked up because you can’t save yourself from the pain.

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  143. It’s easy to say not to kill yourself over a bad relationship, but when certain things happen, those feelings will come up.

    The times in my life when I felt like that were not really because I felt damaged or violated, but because I felt stupid…too stupid to live.

    It was mostly feeling like I’d let myself down, and being unable to look at myself in the mirror after being such a complete and utter fool.

    I got over it by understanding that the people who loved me would miss me, and that I have a responsibility to them. Second, a chick killing herself over a guy makes him think he’s worth more than he really is, because he doesn’t know that the truth is that at that point, it’s not about him, but about her hating herself.

    In my case, I felt like one of those French whores who gleefully serviced nazis…like I was coated in shit and the decaying entrails of my murdered ancestors. I’d slept with the enemy.

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  144. Been through shit, but the thought of suicide never crossed my mind. I suppose I always had this idea that it is not regarded well in thereafter. Not sure whether that plays any role subconsciously and is the basis why I’ve never considered it.

    Something else is exposing myself to danger on behalf of others, I forget to MMOB at times. Happened a few times, but there was always some lucky star out there for me at those occasions.

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  145. Suicide is wrong in many ways. A self-mutilating or harming product is a defective one.

    The elite need beta workers, like businesses needing cogs or drones.

    Everything is part of a system.

    I plan to enter the elite system. There is no point to R’s post, since you can either accept the way things are or taking actions.

    Too bad the elites already are 10000 steps ahead, people do not realize the self-regulating system that is their conscious will never allow them to enter this club.

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  146. The_King, you don’t mean femiazi/liberal complex, perchance?

    They won’t survive the next decade.

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  147. on September 12, 2010 at 10:21 pm Gunslingergregi

    Thank for putting up with the bullshit sometimes.

    he he he

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  148. @Morsellaux

    No I mean the old elite White man’s club. Political ideology is merely a label for confusion.

    Ideology can be made and regulated as long as there are ones that follow the protocols.

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  149. The_King, ah, ok. There are basically two OWMC groups–one that believes in statist zero sum game (with whatever ideology they use as dejour), and another that is dynamic (predominantly self-made men) in their outlook and more inclusive to new blood. These groups tend to clash once a while, though it is quite opaque to the general public.

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  150. If they acknowledged the importance of genes then that would put a dampener on utopian ideas about everyone going to college or all immigrants being equally valuable.

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  151. N Ackerman, not really.

    The utopian ideas have two aspects. One public and another private that acknowledges that some people are more equal than others. If the entry requirements are lowered enough, then everyone would be able to pass through college. The diploma would mean shit, but how everyone will feel good about being equal and edumacated! That is, there would be special mentoring setups for these more equal, though for appearances, they would go through the college like everyone else.

    Well, at least that is the intent.

    As for immigrants, especially illegal ones, they are used for certain social engineering purposes. Once a specific set of purposes is achieved (at least that is the rationale), then the immigrants cease to have any utility.

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  152. We need to keep in mind that a hundred years ago the progressives were a theocratic Christian sect, that wanted to use the power of the state to impose their religion on everyone through the public schooling system – to get rid of all these Catholics and Jews. Since the first amendment was a seriously obstacle to this, they discarded deism, becoming, like universalist universalism, non Christian Christianity, a religion without a god.

    Consider, for example, the doctrine that men and women are equal – therefore the same and interchangeable: Women, supposedly, can be firemen and soldiers. Men, supposedly, can marry other men.

    Understood as a species of Christian belief, it makes sense, because the Christians believe that the most important part of the self is immaterial. If it’s immaterial, then material differences have nothing to do with it. So Christians are free to believe pretty much anything they want about this most important part of the self, unconstrained by material evidence of any sort. They are free to believe that deep inside everyone, there is a core, an essence, that is not the slightest diminished by bodily infirmity etc. etc. I.e., the soul.

    The progressives jettison God, replacing God with, presumably, Nature. So “equality before God” becomes “equality before Nature”. That is, natural equality (of some unspecified sort). And this could be how the progressives manage to believe in some unspecified “natural” (biological or whatever) equality even though no evidence backs them up. Their belief is derived, not from evidence, but from the Christian heritage of progressivism. Their belief looks superficially like a scientific hypothesis because all the terms in it could be interpreted as referring to natural things, but it doesn’t really have any empirical content, because “equality”, while it could refer to something measurable, does not actually refer to anything measurable. Any attempt to measure something to test the claim of “equality” is attacked by progressives.

    Progressives are using naturalistic-sounding words to talk about equality, but they are behaving as though it didn’t make any sense to try to measure it, which is how Christians would behave with respect to attempts to rigorously test equality before God. Their reaction would range from skepticism that it could be done, to the sense that it doesn’t even make sense to try, and finally to the certainty that it is heresy to even suggest such a thing and the person suggesting it is evil and possibly a sorcerer and should be burnt at the stake.

    The progressive reaction to naturalistic attempts to assess equality is exactly the same as the Christian reaction would be.

    The Christian view of equality is entirely impervious to empirical evidence, and so is the progressive view. It makes sense, then, to interpret progressives, when they talk about male and female equality, and about black and white equality, as really talking about the Christian soul, even though they themselves do not realize this is what they are doing because they have forgotten why they are going through these mental motions.

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  153. […] wonders why the elites are so stuck on the obviously false idea of literal equality.  Understood as a species of Christian belief, it makes sense, because the Christians believe […]

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  154. The Race must be Perfectable.

    CR, it goes way way back. At least to Rousseau.

    Blank Slatism is as old as collective group-think.

    The old attack on blood/guts/line/nation has been going on forever.

    Don’t expect it to stop.

    Collective socialism versus individuals excelling.

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  155. Blank-slatism is mostly a Jewish thing. SWPLs aren’t as driven by it as Jews and mostly see non-racism as a way of gaining status over other whites as Sailer posits.

    This discussion is pointless without at the same time discussing the specifically Jewish character of blank-slatism.

    I think most of the reasons for Jewish involvement in it are MacDonaldian.

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  156. According to Wikipedia it’s:

    “Hypocrisy is a sort of homage that vice pays to virtue.

    * François de La Rochefoucauld, p. 336.”

    Homage not tribute.

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  157. Here’s a young SWPL advocating the Voluntary Human Extinction Movement:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2010/09/voluntary-human-extinction-movement.html

    Anyone want to second her opinion that she shouldn’t reproduce?

    Also, here is a 20-something NYC woman complaining that she can’t find an LTR even though she’s pretty, hits the trendiest night spots constantly and goes through lots of men:

    http://www.thefrisky.com/post/246-dear-wendy-im-pretty-so-why-cant-i-get-a-boyfriend/

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  158. @jimbocreed,

    “It’s all good. Everyone makes mistakes. A few years ago, I made the biggest one of all when I came close to committing suicide. Stay strong.”

    Glad you didn’t do it. yeah, stay strong.

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  159. Once upon a time a suicidal high school girl who was my bud had it widely known she was considering suicide.

    As the socially oblivious yet marginally popular guy that I am, I let it be openly known that my counsel was to go ahead if that’s how she felt about it.

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  160. Morsellaux: I saw your argument that feminism is an NKVD/KGB creation. Did you see my comment where I wrote that feminism is a home-grown American ideology, originating with lesbians and coopted by state/corporate interests?

    I don’t see the USSR outright creating and inserting feminism into the West. The Soviets could not match American agitprop. Best they could do is throw money and intel at exploiting our weak points, feminism being one of them.

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  161. @ James A. Donald,

    Outstanding analysis. I have never thought of it like that before, but I think you are definitely hitting on a major component of the evolution of the concept of “equality”.

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  162. PA, I think that I made a cursory note that they (NKVD/KGB) took a look at the trends first and then decided which ones to prop up. Much more efficient to adopt something that is present in some form than devise something from a scratch.

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  163. @ PA,

    Fascism is here and has been here for at least 20 years, some may argue closer to 50 years. All current statutes and regulations that are substantive and not merely symbolic fluff that are passed in Congress and every state legislature are drafted by corporate/business interests. Very rarely the dems will continue to put forth something drafted by a union of some sort, but thats really pretty rare.

    I don’t believe Fascism arrived under the cross, but religion/patriotism/”That’s Socialism!” seem to be the strongest shields against any effort to change the status quo. Fascism in practice is pretty close to socialism…except the redistribution takes place quietly, to select groups.

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  164. The elites prop up the blank slate because:

    1. They need to believe that black’s problems are caused by society, because they want justification for the state spending programs that attempt to “fix” that

    2. They hold the superstitious belief that if white people again believe they are superior, they will lynch and eventually shove all the jews and browns into ovens

    This isn’t about ego

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  165. Sidewinder — looks like you saw the comment I posted at the beginning of this thread. It was buried in moderation all weekend.

    American fascism in my opinion began with the sixties revolution and its foreshadowing was earlier, with the Warren court. It was implemented so gradually, it was like boiling a frog — it was hard to feel the encroaching authoritaranism because it was so incremental. It became really palpable with post-911 security measures, humiliating and unnecessary airport searches being one specific example.

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  166. Sidewinder, you seem to imply that unions are something benign, in opposition to corporate/big-biz interest.

    I disagree. Union members are pawns. It’s the union bosses that benefit, what a racket!

    Note I used big-biz moniker rather than business. For a reason. Let’s use CBB for corporate/big-biz. Small/medium biz usually work on a somewhat ethical platform, because that is the way that yields the best results as they are not that removed from their social environment.

    Here is how it works: CBB does not want to compete, it is better for them to create a monopoly, as then they can essentially price-fix the market. Another aspect to CBB ops is to minimize costs and maximize profits but not through the natural process of productivity only. They seek other avenues to maximize this spread.
    They do find extremely helpful tools–one of them, union bosses are just what doctor prescribed. By inflating union demands to the stratosphere, the CBB feels it gains a pseudo-moral carte blanche to move the operation to a place where the cost of labor is minute in comparison. CBB offers as a consolation prize to the union a package, of which a major portion is a golden parachute for the union boss.

    Both CBB and union bosses laugh on their way to the bank. (I haven’t see one poor union boss yet). The rubes? Who cares!

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  167. Morsellaux,

    I am not a big union supporter by any means, I am just commenting on my observations as a lawyer who drafts statutes and regulations and is personally familiar with the process. I agree with you that CBB is the mortal enemy of small business in this country, but for some reason, small business cannot find a political voice. The Repubs have sold out to CBB for years, and the dems want to over-regulate and tax them.

    But in defense of unions, they are not structurally a bad idea. There is a huge negotiating imbalance between the owner of productive forces and the individual worker. There is nothing economically wrong with the workers dealing collectively. It is in their practice that the unions are corrupt, but I’m not sure they are any more corrupt than any other bureaucracy or other organization. Like any organization that has to continually demonstrate their importance or relevance (in order to support those salaries that you mention) they do a bunch of stupid shit to make sure people know they still exist.

    Working conditions are much better now than in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and that is due largely to unions.

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  168. @ PA,

    One of the most ironic examples of fascism in this country is the Medicare/Medicaid system. The programs are the sacred cows of the political left, but they supply billions of dollars to health care providers and entities that are largely republican, competition-free. I hate to fuel conspiracy theories, but more often than not, the hospital and nursing home owners are Jews, and their Jewish lawyers are drafting the regulations that ensure their guaranteed, shielded from the market, millions of tax payer money. It’s really pretty amazing when you see it going on. Rich people without a real care in the world.

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  169. ”””’As the socially oblivious yet marginally popular guy that I am, I let it be openly known that my counsel was to go ahead if that’s how she felt about it.”””””

    Yea I tell myself that at least once a day and try to look for excuses why it is cool to do it.

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  170. @Laura

    Good comment. There are plenty of white people who don’t care all that much about academics. I recently had a girlfriend tell me that as long as her kids were popular and decent at sports she didn’t care that much about their grades. Even my dad used to be the most concerned about how I did in gym class.

    For girls, that’s an OK attitude. A physically-fit and graceful girl is more likely to be considered an attractive girl, and more likely to acquire a prosperous husband and breed descendants.

    For guys, that’s so-so advice. You need good grades to get into the good schools that serve as gatekeepers to success in the corporate world. If you’re in an entrepreneurial family, and likely to get set up in your own small business, academic success beyond being good at reading, writing, and math (pursuits which are increasingly deprecated in favor of politically-correct indoctrination) is optional.

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  171. Re: suicide

    I can’t see any rationale behind it. I can understand someone sacrificing his life for others, and I can understand throwing in the towel when one is very old without the ability to do anything but be a huge drain, but someone who thinks they know so much about life and the world that they should end their life, (and they’d have to be pretty certain of their belief if they were to follow through with such a belief), are egregiously over-rating their mind and human thought in general.

    99% of your bodily functions are taking place beneath your conscious, thinking attention. Heart beating, hair growing, cells doing a bunch of shit…to override this momentum of life due to some “thought” in your brain seems a bit short-sighted to say the least.

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  172. Sidewinder

    Fascism in practice is pretty close to socialism…except the redistribution takes place quietly, to select groups.

    I agree that any political system will distribute finances unevenly, but doesn’t socialism distribute more broadly than facism?

    I’m of the opinion that the tension between collective and individual endeavors is necessary – neither is a solution.

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  173. xsplat

    I agree that any political system will distribute finances unevenly, but doesn’t socialism distribute more broadly than facism?

    No. Ultimately, when the socialism gets to a full bloom, any traces of stratification are removed (while some token stratification is kept withing fascism) and you end up with a two-class system–the nomenclatura (the top 2% that hold all the wealth in their hands) and the rest, or as Orwel put it, the equal (rest) and the more equal (nomenclatura).

    Do you own a nice house or have a beautiful wife? It ian’t yours, you have a sort of lease, but at any time the nomenclatura member desires either, you’re fucked.

    Feudalism was lamers in comparison.

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  174. xsplat, “eminent domain” is a similar concept.

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  175. Actually the socialist impulse that you discuss is alive and well in the judiciary. Whenever possible, the judiciary will distribute wealth from the beta males that have the wealth to the lower iq young women who manages to impregnate herself with his sperm. A one night stand with a young beta has often translated in to a windfall that supports the lower IQ young woman for years to come

    First of all, the recession has made it hard for lower IQ young women to earn an honest living. Very hard. So figuring out a way to get pregnant with sperm from a rich young man is more important than it was before the recession hit.

    Second of all, the courts have ruled that women are entitled to child support payments based on the man’s ability to pay, not based on the man’s culpability in the pregancy. It is now pretty well known among these women that even if the man uses a condom and throws the condom in the trash and the woman sneaks in to the trash that the woman is allowed to freeze the condom and she can find doctors a month or two later to impregnate her with the contents of the condom (google it – actual legal precedent has been set)

    In addition, if a young man is so concerned about pregancy that he will only agree to oral sex, the woman is allowed to use the sperm in her mouth after oral sex to impregnate herself and the man is still legally on the hook for child support. A number of cases have established this. I will include one example below.

    Bottom line, the courts have established that if a woman can obtain sperm from a rich young man, no matter what method she uses to obtain the sperm, she is able to get lavish child support payments.

    ________

    February 24, 2005 1:09 PM EST

    CHICAGO – An appeals court said a man can press a claim for emotional distress after learning a former lover had used his sperm to have a baby. But he can’t claim theft, the ruling said, because the sperm were hers to keep.

    The ruling Wednesday by the Illinois Appellate Court sends Dr. Richard O. Phillips’ distress case back to trial court.

    Phillips accuses Dr. Sharon Irons of a “calculated, profound personal betrayal” after their affair six years ago, saying she secretly kept semen after they had oral sex, then used it to get pregnant.

    “She asserts that when plaintiff ‘delivered’ his sperm, it was a gift – an absolute and irrevocable transfer of title to property from a donor to a donee,” the decision said. “There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request.”

    URL: http://able2know.org/topic/46330-1

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  176. Dennis Mangan:

    Those like him who have made into the elite are made of sterner stuff, practicing their 10,000 hours, and thus deserve to be part of the elite, unlike you proles, wasting your time on TV and Nascar.

    NO fucking way.

    One is born into the American elite ruling class. Station of birth trumps I.Q.

    An average (or dim) Harvard or Yale grad from the “proper” family tree will advance farther than any genetic mutation genius from the common herd.

    Mangan’s “deserving” elites presuposes NASCAR dimwittedness and elite competency.

    Bullshit

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  177. For more details on this, google the below passage

    June 22, 2009. Apparently a woman who calls herself a “former escort and madam” has started up a new business – selling athlete’s semen. According to the woman’s members only website, she’s secretly collected close to a dozen “samples” of athlete’s semen and is now looking to sell the specimens to the highest bidder. The specimens were supposedly taken from used condoms and immediately frozen.

    Why would anyone want to do this, you ask??? Well get this, because of the way the paternity laws are written – you’d be entitled to child support from the athlete once the baby was born.

    And it’s worked in the past. According to the website, which MediaTakeOut.com got EXCLUSIVE access to, she’s already sold two “specimens” which lead to successful insemination. And both women have received “5 figure a month” child support settlements.

    But it gets better. It ain’t just ANY NBA players that she’s harvested. The website claims that she has one member of the 2008 Olympic team, and 4 members of the 2009 All Star Team.

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  178. on September 13, 2010 at 1:32 pm Yea firepower but who really wants to be elite

    Becoming elite is an oxymoron isn’t it?

    I mean all these words and shit over what lol

    It is all pretty base shit we are dealing with elite or not.

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  179. Chateau,

    I was wondering if you could help me. I was doing a google search for a blog called “The Reality Method” by a guy named ThirtyPlus.

    A google search pointed to a post about a year ago by a reader named “Dave from Hawaii,” who apparently saved all of ThirtyPlus’ entries. I was actually hoping you could get me in contact with Dave to see if he could lend me those saved pages (I’ve been wanting to re-read some of these posts for quite some time now).

    Anything would be really appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

    Collegekid

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  180. Morsellaux>>

    The “created equal” denotes the concept that no one should have a legally codified privilege by the virtue of birth or heredity, and in it is implied the concept of equality of

    no shit. your analysis is simplistic and isn’t evolutionary. how did libertarian jefferson’s democrats evolve into today’s democratic party of kleptocrats using progressive ideals to run interference?

    “created equal” is too close for comfort. give that phrase 200 years and you get our current entitlement culture. democracy always implodes because it serves the weak (the plurality) and discriminates against talent (the few who have the resources and exist to be looted). ergo the need to defame talent. it is the randian argument.

    that’s the elegant explanation instead of plodding through 200 inane posts. no democracy has ever survived. all democracies are currently imploding under fanatically corrupt and depraved “progressives” who stay in power by bribing the population with looted monies from the producers. ergo… mr. orzag trashes the elites.

    Roissy is caught confused by the interference of “progressive” ideals, etc.. when it is simple kleptocracy… loot the few to bribe the many.

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  181. Duxbury, I am sorry I did not meet your evolutionary requirements.

    But what if there is no evolution involved. You seem to be the type that “if there was no evolution, we have to make one”.

    Once again, you need to interpret the “created equal” in the context. The context makes it clear that it refers to “equality of opportunity”.

    That later on the dems, far remote from their jeffersonian roots, bough the “equality of outcomes ” part and parcel when the leftists started their infiltration program in 1930’s, can’t be in any way construed as a liner implicit evolutionary result. It’s a switcheroo.

    That is not to say there aren’t discernable evolutionary patterns. The concept that the general public at some point in time starts to vote largese for itself and thus starting to saw through the branch they are sitting on is unfortunately valid.

    Representative republic type of democracy is a shitty system. Straight democracy, is even shittier. All the other systems are much worse, though.

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  182. @Morsellaux

    Interesting.

    Which is Skull & bones or freemasonry tied to?

    I am going to join whichever will benefit the most. You seem credible enough to know what forms they take, how they strategies for their end “goals.” Do you have an email in which I can reach you?

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  183. on September 13, 2010 at 4:12 pm up in the rigging

    Nicole, if you are a black woman, I’d sure like to correspond with you privately. Seems like the hardest thing to do is have a serious discussion with a sane person about black culture.

    [email protected]

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  184. on September 13, 2010 at 9:21 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lotsa cocka 4 da ladies!!!

    & butthex 4 da neocon butthexers fiat matrix!!! ven serctievtapings of pubbuthex butthex which the noencs secrtely tape and publish and profit of of lzozlzozlzolzlz

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  185. Can anyone link to any studies specifying specifically that cognitive and social abilities are determined majorly by genetics and not environment?

    The level in which “Hereditarian Biological Determinism” is starting to resemble a faith-based religion is alarming.

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  186. @Ruby

    SAT, GMAT, MCAS, GRE scores all prove intellectual hierarchy by racial ethnicity and sex. Not to forget average IQ will also support that notion.

    Do you’re own research next time you lazy bitch.

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  187. @The_King

    That is hilarious, man.

    I ask for evidence that there is a majority genetic predisposition for cognitive and social success differences between ethnicities and your answer [like a Religious Fundamentalist] is that the EXISTENCE of these differences justifies a purely genetic origin for them.

    I have to agree with Gotz — This blog is being taken over by people who lack even basic reading comprehension.

    Roissy, the Chateau is starting to stink of “Prole”…

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  188. @ Ruby

    you asked about evidences, and “the_king´s” answer gave you them. All those tests end up ranking races by cognitive success.

    you may doubt if those rankings are due to genetics or environment and so you could question him for that. But the answer is totally aceptable in any debate. Your reaction is what borders histeria.

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  189. Ruby–

    Can anyone link to any studies specifying specifically that cognitive and social abilities are determined majorly by genetics and not environment?

    No reputable researcher or anyone who’s knowledgeable about the area claims that cognitive abilities are 100% determined by genes. It’s the leftist blank slaters who make the frankly preposterous claim that it’s entirely determined by the environment. Then through leftist PC control of the media and schools, they have forced everyone else to shut up about the subject when speaking to broad audiences, or at least to be extremely gingerly about it. They managed to get the Nobel prize winning co discoverer or DNA and head of a leading genetics research lab to be forced to resign for example — for speaking the truth. Specifically for saying:

    [Watson] is “inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”, and I know that this “hot potato” is going to be difficult to address.

    There has never been good scientific support for all culture/environment theory for differences in IQ. It’s just been leftist dogma since the rise of Marxism and communism.

    Culture/environment and genetic differences both play a part in the IQ gap. This long blog post on one of the leading blogs on genetics, GNXP or Gene Expression, references a lot of studies which strongly indicate that genetics plays a big role. It was occasioned by the forced resignation of James Watson for saying to a British newspaper reporter that development schemes for Africa would probably work better if they took into account the low average IQ of sub Saharan Africans. So the first part of the post focuses on establishing what we know about sub Saharan IQs. But the later part sums up a lot (by no means all) of the research which strongly suggests that genetics plays a large role and that differences aren’t just environmental/cultural. It also deals with the leading counter evidence, which isn’t large.

    BTW, are you aware Ruby that studies have shown that children from black families in the top income quartile get on average LOWER SAT scores than children from white families in the LOWEST income quartile?? How would environment or culture account for that? What accounts for it are 1) the genetic effect of regression to the black mean of 85 IQ and 2) that affirmative action coupled with being smarter than the average BLACK was what put the parents in that top income quartile.

    http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php

    As well see this comprehensive review of the literature on the black white IQ gap and whether it’s all nurture or importantly also nature:

    http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

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  190. Ruby–

    As well consider that if you understand evolution at all, it would be amazing if they’re weren’t genetically influenced differences in IQ between people and between groups which have largely not interbred for tens of millenia. See this:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/sedition-is-the-highest-form-of-dissent/#comment-167300

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  191. Ruby–

    Occam’s razor, that key heuristic (rule of thumb) of modern science, which Einstein restated as “Everything should be kept as simple as possible, but no simpler”, also now strongly cuts against accepting a 100% (or very nearly that) environmentalist theory for the reason for the extremely durable black / white IQ gap:

    All of the relatively simple environmentalist theories for that gap have been convincingly demonstrated lacked by numerous studies, mentioned in the reviews above. Only increasingly elaborate and amorphous ones are left.

    In contrast it’s abundantly obvious how average genetic differences might account for a lot of the gap. Then feedback effects into the culture and environment that that black kids live in might effect the size of the gap as well.

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  192. @Doug1

    You know for a fact that I’ve been lurking the HBDsphere, Roissysphere and AltRightsphere for a while.

    You also know for a fact that while the research data pointing towards a significant gap in cognitive and social abilities between races has credibility, the debate over CAUSATION, CONSEQUENCES and POLICY of these differences is still hotly contended.

    An example question being, “Theoretically, is Africa’s multi-generational poverty as a result of its environment not being conducive to civilization-level agrarianism and treatment by colonialism, the cause of its low IQ scores or are, theoretically, the unalterable relatively low IQs of Africans the cause of its continual poverty?”

    It is painful to see that rabid pundits on both the Left and [Alt.] Right seem to be avoiding posing the question in a neutral and authentically inquiring tone rather than skewing the question and answer to fulfill their political aims.

    Specifically for the Alternative Right, do you really suspect black people and the public at large to believe that you are worshiping at the altar of Hereditarian Biological Determinism simply in pursuit of the “truth” as Half Sigma and OneSTDV claim? Or would the not-so-subtle discussion between the lines seem to indicate a much more directed and sinister policy proposal? It is very telling that the website that hosts the largest forum for discussion of Hereditarian Biological Determinism is http://www.stormfront.org.

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  193. Ruby–

    I don’t read stormfront or similar places so I wouldn’t know. Such types get chased out of GNXP and/or blocked.

    You ask for evidence; I point you to mountains of it; you then question motives. This is a thoroughly illegitimate way to argue. But is typical of the left on any of their “theological” issues. Like this one.

    You also know for a fact that while the research data pointing towards a significant gap in cognitive and social abilities between races has credibility, the debate over CAUSATION, CONSEQUENCES and POLICY of these differences is still hotly contended.

    There’s always going to be debate over the right policy consequences of course. But it would, as Steve Sailer points out from time to time, be a much more productive debate if the very likely truth were admitted as being such as foundational in that debate, instead of pretending that that’s unthinkable. As for debate over causation, the fine details of that are going to take quite a while to unravel but work is proceeding apace.

    The great preponderance of the evidence points to genetic differences being important in IQ differences, but not solely determinative. That is what the hereditarian stance actually is.

    The debate over whether there are any genetic differences between the races which influence the black white IQ gap is only there because it’s such anathema to the PC code the the Marxist or heavily Marxist influenced left. If this were most other areas of science, there would be a general consensus that the hereditarians are probably right. Note hereditarians think both culture/environment and genes play strong roles in both individual and group differences in IQ.

    The work on other mental differences between individuals and groups is much less extensive but tends to go the same way. Twin studies for example show a lot of heritability of personality. (Note that genes are something of a roulette wheel in each individual case.)

    My motivation is 1) yes seeking truth, 2) pulling down PC bullshite and 3) seeing social policy be argued more honest, with some changes.

    Since the 1960s a very large part of social and educational policy in this country has been about reducing the racial gap in schools. Most of the rest of it has been about improving the lot of girls in schools, unis and the workplace, boys and men be damned. I’m against both in many ways; certainly in the way it’s been going on. Though I focus a lot more on anti-feminism.

    This doesn’t mean I want to give up on improving education for black children in general and black men in particular.

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  194. @Doug1

    The particular points I addressed in my last post weren’t meant to evade your evidence — I specifically stated in that post that I agree with your presented evidence as credible.

    I do however disagree with the aim of many Hereditarian Biological Determinism proponents of co-opting otherwise logical and neutral data for overtly irrational and malicious purpose.

    I do however thank you for being honest and rational with your personal views and goals.

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  195. Ruby–

    That’s not what HBD stands for. The term was coined by Steve Sailer. It’s the acronym for human bio diversity.

    It’s the insight that if you know anything about evolution and the role that genes play in evolution, you’ll realize that genes as well as the environment are hugely likely to drive a lot of the differences between people, including mental ones. As well genes are also hugely likely to be causitive at least in important part for group differences on average including in mental traits, when populations have largely not interbred for many millenia, except at clinial points of contract. (Where we’d expect to see intermediate characteristics.)

    Again follow this link where I go into the thought behind coming up with the term human biodiversity:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/04/21/sedition-is-the-highest-form-of-dissent/#comment-167300

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  196. @Ruby

    I do however disagree with the aim of many Hereditarian Biological Determinism proponents of co-opting otherwise logical and neutral data for overtly irrational and malicious purpose.

    I do however thank you for being honest and rational with your personal views and goals.

    Just because a given population is less prone to producing nuclear scientists doesn’t make it less human or valuable.

    However, pretending that all human sub-populations are going to produce nuclear scientists in equal measure is just plain dumb.

    So the nefarious purposes of the many people who use HBD for, … nefarious purposes are perhaps best countered. But the problem is that the typical reaction is to deny the validity of HBD.

    Which you can’t. Evolution practically requires it.

    So, … any further calls to defend decency and social order has to fall back on general humanity.

    Anyway, then we have to see that some of the arguments have little to do with HBD, though they may appear on the face of it to be racist.

    For example, CR’s position has been that it’s nice to live with people like you, who look more like you, and act like you. This was the glue that once did hold society together. Such societies, while often less dynamic, in a greater sense are much more stable and successful. Humans are simple beasts this way.

    Another is immigration. Cultural/racial replacement is little different from invasion. In fact, it’s safe to say that the immigration from Hispanic countries is like a low-energy invasion wave; the Left often even approves of this. They hate white culture, hate everything that America has ever done, hate technology, hate hate hate – and have some fanciful admiration for, say, an Ecuadorian peasant and his/her values. So: They say it’s more of a Mexican Reconquista, and we deserve it.

    That’s the kind of self-flagellating, bitter anti-intellectual vitriol that the Left continues to ply us with.

    Countering either of these may or may not be racist (I say not), but HBD has nothing to do with them.

    HBD could be positively useful for identifying things like: lower general educational achievements by black Americans, as an endemic pattern. Perhaps alternative educational strategies could address this problem? Crime among black men: Perhaps two generations of imprisoning black males who are violent (10x out of proportion with any other group) and preventing them from breeding by putting them in jail would eliminate that problem. The resulting black males would be the descendants of the ones less prone to violence.

    There are other social policies which, while on the face of it, might seem reprehensible, but would be accepted as normal were it not for the blank slate ideology. For example, the idea that smart people should mate wherever possible with smart people -this goes on anyway. What we get is a self-perpetuating class of rather smart people, which is why elite whites in this country likely have more in common with elite Asians. Class trumps race: But class likely has some genetic component, almost certainly.

    Understanding humans and approaching them and studying them in the same way you’d study fungus or cockroaches or squirrels illuminates so many things, it’s hard to deny the usefulness of HBD.

    HBD is, in the end, just an admission that we’re animals.

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  197. on September 14, 2010 at 7:25 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””’Ruby
    Roissy, the Chateau is starting to stink of “Prole”…””””””

    You know the trailer park references don’t hold up under even the slightest bit of scrutiny.

    Ok ruby so before you try to put down a white prole ya might want to check some crime statistics.

    What did a white prole ever do to you?

    We are tired of babysitting ya dig?

    I mean go read some obsidian for reasons why.

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  198. on September 14, 2010 at 7:43 pm gunslingergregi

    Solution to have all people who work in hud housing or signed a bill for hud housing or have anything to do with hud housing to live in hud housing and have their kids go to the same schools.

    Other solution instead of athletes buying big houses for their momas they need to buy businesses for their bros.

    So like even white boys got to shout dam!

    Or lets say the us gives out loans on a true equal opportunity basis.

    Or start giving out other shit equally.

    Or just say hey we all cool lets get the fuck along we all got same benefits. nobody has to give a fuck.

    The problem that happened is before it was just low income whites getting fucked over but now it is everyone.

    So it is like people with a little bit of pocketfluence kids getting pushed aside by minority qoutas.

    Plus if you need a government job to be on top and that pays like way more than private sector yea that is also going to become an issue.

    Either get rid of entitlements for one group or give entitlement to all groups.

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  199. on September 14, 2010 at 7:51 pm gunslingergregi

    Blacks that don’t consider themselves “proles” need to be going into places where their are “proles” and preaching the saving grace and how the shit is pretty beneficial for them so they don’t blame the man for problem (and the only man around to physically blame is the same guy the man is actually fucking over) but realize the man just trying to help them get some free shit by actually fucking over the mans own people.

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  200. on September 14, 2010 at 7:55 pm gunslingergregi

    So when your living next door to that guy that is trying to pay a mortgage while you have free rent and a check at the end of year to blow that guy has bills. While you get your car fixed for free and a free car that guy doesn’t get it if he has a car he has to pay all expenses for that car. While you get free medical insurance like it was no big deal that guys kids don’t have it and can’t play football for a year because they don’t have health insurance because their parents to proud to take the free shit. While you have free access to all kinds of shit that next door neighbor has to go ahead and pay for all the shit he gets.

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  201. on September 14, 2010 at 8:00 pm gunslingergregi

    While the hud kid gets to go to dentist and doctor and shit like it is a god given right.

    The next door neighbors kid has to be under constant pressure of worrying about fucking up his family if he gets hurt because they can’t afford fucking insurance.

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  202. on September 14, 2010 at 8:05 pm gunslingergregi

    Here I was recently in america and these people I am living with are fucking going to the doctor every other fucking day and dentist like it was normal every time they had an ochie.

    Then me just got back from fucking iraq and I had fucking doctors turning me away because they didn’t like my insurance or some shit. Getting not called back and shit.

    The stark contrast was unmistakable.

    I mean come on can we keep it real?

    Can we get some fucking equality?

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  203. on September 14, 2010 at 9:38 pm gunslingergregi

    When you need help though pride can be your biggest weakness.

    It probably is what is getting in my way.

    There is help I need to take it.

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  204. HBD is an acronym for human biological determinism, regardless of how Steve Sailer or whoever else chooses to munge it.

    When they discuss it, they also take a determinist position, how ever they choose to deny it.

    I personally have no problem with HBD. Nobody on earth can actually exceed their potential. However, the over leaning on IQ as the be all and end all of human value screams of nerdy guys clinging to the one way they view themselves as superior to others.

    Then they treat high IQ Black people as if they’re inferior.

    This is why Obsidian gets frustrated. I don’t have the patience he does to deal with it. As far as I’m concerned, arguing with comparative cognitive midgets makes me feel dirty…like beating up a cripple.

    From my perspective, it’s like religious people who believe in the Santa god. They can’t conceive of a universe without one. HBD’ers took a good idea and went in the wrong direction with it. Nothing is wrong with the core “faith”. It’s the followers who screw it up.

    The belief is correct, but the believers insist that nature must somehow be playing favorites. Their heads are trapped in a bubble world of air conditioners and plasma televisions in which they’re the best at pushing buttons, and they think this makes them somehow superior to people who either don’t live in that world or don’t thrive in it.

    Africans, the genetic cradles of humanity, do not thrive in the button world. It doesn’t occur to those who can successfully sit or recline for 90% of their day, and still survive to a reasonable age, that some people are not well adapted to life in a bubble.

    The lower IQ’s are very likely an indication of this. People who don’t live in the bubble aren’t generally going to score as high unless they have exceptional skill, which would, in the case of Africans, account for there being the ability for that to develop in the first place.

    People who do live in the bubble but aren’t adapted well to doing that aren’t going to magically become able to, just because you change their location and education.

    Does this make them inferior?

    Well, you lay down in chains in the hold of a ship for months, then come out and have to work from dawn to dusk, be treated like an animal, and then have viable offspring who, until they’re coddled manage to have successful families despite still being treated like crap by almost everyone else around them, and then tell me.

    There are Europeans who’ve been through similar hells and have come out pretty much the same or less successful than African Americans in general.

    Everybody certainly isn’t equal in all things, but everyone alive today is the descendant of those who made nature’s cut. Determining value based on one aspect of viability and then determining the value of individuals based on generalities is as much fatally stupid arrogance as HSD (human social determinism).

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  205. Nicole

    HBD is an acronym for human biological determinism, regardless of how Steve Sailer or whoever else chooses to munge it.

    No it isn’t.

    You don’t own the language black ass.

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  206. Yes, but I do speak the language, and if someone is going to discuss the social science, it pays to understand and use the terminology.

    I could decide that chachabooboo is a better word for human biological determinism, but nobody else is going to understand what the hell I’m talking about. Using HBD as an acronym for “human biodiversity” is the equivalent of using “human bingabobob”.

    If what you mean is human biological determinism, then it’s dishonest to attempt to mask that by changing one word of it to something that isn’t even relevant to what you’re trying to express.

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  207. I think I agree with Nicole on this. Her definition of HBD seems more logical, but I’m certainly no expert.

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  208. Nicole–

    Using HBD as an acronym for “human biodiversity” is the equivalent of using “human bingabobob”.

    How stupid can you get?

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  209. Laura

    I think I agree with Nicole on this. Her definition of HBD seems more logical, but I’m certainly no expert.

    It’s not how it’s used by those who say they agree with the evidence behind it.

    Furthermore “biological determinism” isn’t how those well aware of how evolution think it works with humans. There is a good degree of that yes, but also a lot of free agency. As well as environmental “determinism”, i.e. influences.

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  210. Unfortunately, Nicole, google web search returns exactly 8 results for “human biological determinism” and google scholar returns… two.

    When people say “HBD”, they mean something else.

    chachabooboo indeed.

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  211. Ruby

    @Roissy, the Chateau is starting to stink of “Prole”…

    he hears not.

    for he dreams of a movie
    in which portrayed by ryan reynolds

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  212. egad – modded am I
    for speaking the name
    which dare not be spoken

    If i look into a mirror and say it thrice, maybe you can appear and wing me this friday at the lawyer’s convention?

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  213. P, “ass” is a word that is often used to mean “buttocks”, but it means “donkey”.

    Popular usage doesn’t change the actual meaning of a word or an acronym used by social scientists.

    When they say “HBD” they might, in their ignorance, think it means “human biodiversity”, but in actual use by the ignorant themselves, they mean “human biological determinism”.

    Their philosophy is not that people adapted differently, thus there is diversity. Their philosophy is that human’s potential is limited to and by their biology.

    That is determinism.

    Do I actually need to define diversity and determinism to you?

    Google that, dumbass.

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  214. Nicole–

    Their philosophy is not that people adapted differently, thus there is diversity. Their philosophy is that human’s potential is limited to and by their biology.

    HBD is not a philosophy, but a shorthand for those who accept the the clear preponderance of the evidence, as well as what we would expect from the mechanisms of evolution, show that differences in cognitive abilities and personalities are heavily but not entirely genetically influenced.

    There isn’t any absolute genetic determinism; the environment in which genes are expressed also matters. As does the ones in which the individual operates.

    The fact of the matter remains that Steve Sailer coined the term Human Bio-Diversity about a decade ago, and your attempts to hijack it won’t wash. That’s how HBD is used withing the Steveosphere aka among realists. Who are generally but not always conservatives.

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  215. Nicole–

    In short, P is right. Dumbass and self deluded ass.

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  216. Since both of you contribute well and you’re both regulars, its hard to see a fight like this over what an acronym means.

    Compare that to the outrageous fight I had two days ago with that @Dalrerojo married White Knighter who thinks game is about insignicant males competing like sperm to get at justifiably cruel and choosy targets who can do no wrong and who, even if they lowered themselves to strip for men, would still be superior to those men.

    Nicole backed me up on that fight, which effectively meant she backed up what this blog is all about.

    So Doug, please back me up in fights the way Nicole does. Your a staunch advocate against feminism like I am.

    Its only been because of Roissy and maybe one or two others that men’s rights and anti-feminism have finally taken over the PUA studies field.

    Not too long ago, PUAs had a White Knighter view of game like I just described.

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  217. Nicole,

    Show me more than two uses of the phrase “human biological determinism” in the scholarly literature—that’s all google scholar knows about. Google books returns simalarly—two scholarly results, both before 1980.

    There just isn’t any such use among social scientists.

    You don’t need to insult me just because you’re wrong.

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  218. Do you play this kind of assertion game in person, Nicole? It’s kind of dumb to play it on the net where people can easily look things up. How loathesome.

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  219. Doug says, “HBD is not a philosophy,”

    Ah, my bad. I said philosophy when what I meant was ideology.

    …which you nicely clarified. Next!

    P, if ten out of twelve retards call human biological deteminism, homobingabobblity, and have done so for a long time, that does not change its meaning, nor does it make homobingabobblity a more suitable word to describe the approach to human behavior or the twisted, derivative, ideology that has grown out of generic White American male insecurity. The whole rest of the world has a real ethicity to brag on and coattail ride, but White Americans don’t want to be the descendants of slaves and criminals and disenfranchised Europeans running from whatever. So they have to cling to whiteness like it means anything to anybody else who matters.

    It only takes one credible scholar to use or define a term, and to do so properly within acceptable boundaries of the language, to make it a more valid term.

    How in the hell does “human biological diversity” become shorthand for “human behavior is largely influenced by genetics”. Biodiversity is only covering a portion of the overall biological determinism ideology, and it is impossible to tell, in usage by its White American adherents, whether they’re talking about just the diversity part or the overall determinism…because they don’t see a difference because they are midgets riding thr coattails of giants.

    Now, what’s funny about all this is that you people feel free to insult me, but when the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly I’m not playing fair.

    Don’t start none, won’t be none. Your calling me a Black whatever or backing people who do, takes not a point from my IQ.

    It also doesn’t make you right.

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  220. No, Nicole, I’m not calling you black. I’m calling you wrong. Essentially nobody uses the exact phrase “human biological determinism”, which you might expect them to do if anyone out there uses “HBD” to mean that. I can’t even figure out where you got the idea that they do, or why you persist in asserting that when anyone can go look it up.

    Show me the evidence and I can admit I’m wrong. Hell, name the “credible scholar” and make a sensible argument why he or she is credible.

    Shit, lady, when you make a silly assertion, correct it quickly, don’t go apeshit repeating it and insulting anyone who disagrees with you. You know why I’m in this? Because I’d never heard anyone use that phrase and it would have been fun to poke a little at the Sailerites with it. SO I LOOKED IT UP. LIKE ANYONE ELSE CAN.

    And now it’s your character that’s in question instead of the matter of fact.

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  221. Okay brainless. Do you figure that just because you only see the words “biological determinism” twice in Google, that the topic hasn’t been studied?

    How daft are you?

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1734214/pdf/v031p00526.pdf

    Now go fuck yourself.

    [Editor: Nicole, HBD means “human biodiversity”. It is not a stand-in for “biological determinism”, nor is determinism the working theory of scientists who study these sorts of things. You are creating strawcunts out of nothing. Stop already and just come to terms with the fact that there are realities about population groups that make you uncomfortable. Once you accept this, you can relax and learn to love the unfairness in the world.]

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  222. Look, I understand that it’s a big pill to swallow, that you and others who think you are so far ahead of the game, have been using the wrong term for years. An even bigger load is that you let a guy either knowingly or unknowingly mislead you about the origins of the concept, and convince you that he invented it in order to glorify himself.

    …but I don’t see how anyone who ever cracked open a book having anything to do with history in the 20th century missed the fact that eugenics was based on human biological determinism. If you’ve read anything recent on the subject of genetics, then you’d know that previous doubters of biological determinism got a shot in the gutt with the new understanding of epigenetics.

    See, this is why you need Black people.

    None of you would have figured it out. Why? Perhaps you are genetically socially retarded in the way that anyone who tells you anything that soothes your insecurity and boosts your ego, which you may have some genetically based need to base on your skin color (unfamiliar face oversensitivity) is believed without question.

    Perhaps it has to do with the Saxon bit of Anglo-saxon ancestry. You need to rationalize your oversensitivity with statistics that allow you to ride on averages instead of individual accomplishments.

    It wouldn’t have come out of nowhere. Plenty of Africans are just as tribalist and will, like in Rwanda, believe some megalomaniac who tells them that they are under attack and have the right to harm others physically or psychologically because they are different. Perhaps those traits were pro adaptive in western Europe, so you guys got like 400% of what an African normally would because you needed it back then.

    However, like the anger trigger of many Arabs, and the escapism of many Blacks, this embarrassing level of sheeplism is a blind spot that those of you who can, should try to compensate for.

    Don’t shoot the messenger or the albatross. I’m trying to help you, but just unwilling to kiss your ass to do it.

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  223. Editor says, “Stop already and just come to terms with the fact that there are realities about population groups that make you uncomfortable.”

    Come on. I am the *last* person who could be said to be uncomfortable with general racial differences.

    I’m the one who keeps saying that race is more complicated than the overly simplistic umbrellas made of intellectual tinker toys most people throw around as if they were hard scientific categories.

    …and that good genes bear themselves out over time regardless of circumstances. Bonus, like goes to like.

    All I’m saying is that the term you and others are using is wrong.

    The definition of biodiversity is not the same as biological determinism, but you guys have been using the term human biodiversity to describe human biological determinism.

    I just showed you that determinism is the working theory, and that the biodiversity aspect is just one small portion of it that has been coined and is now used by non scientists as a replacement for the original and better term.

    Strawcunt indeed…You should be glad I bothered to mention it so you won’t look like a complete dumbass if you ever discuss this with a geneticist or hell, a historian.

    Determinism is the theory. Biodiversity is just the reason.

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  224. …or rather, the reason certain traits may be important to retain or amplify through breeding.

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  225. Nicole,

    I may not always address nor agree with everything you say, but I can see your tenacity in holding on to your believes despite oppositions. I do admire your courage. In many cases though, you need to learn to let go…… let go of needing to be right about everything and recognize when something is worth fighting for and when it is simply futile and worthless to waste energy on. You can disagree with everything written here and i would respect that, but I’m hoping it would be helpful.

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  226. What, I understand that they have a right to call it whatever they like. It’s just that using the right term will make them look less stupid than using the wrong one.

    It’s not about my beliefs. It’s about reasonable use of the English language, and not being sheep enough to follow someone off an intellectual cliff.

    If they’re wondering why they’re not as credible as they’d like to be, this is one of the reasons.

    They can certainly choose to look like idiots if they like, but I would be wrong to not inform them.

    Then again, maybe I’m wrong to even give a crap.

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  227. @Nicole,
    “It’s not about my beliefs. It’s about reasonable use of the English language, and not being sheep enough to follow someone off an intellectual cliff.”

    Sheep–you? definitely not!

    “They can certainly choose to look like idiots if they like, but I would be wrong to not inform them.”

    To me is not a right or wrong thing. I have no need to inform anyone and simply put I just don’t care enough to do so. so I let it go.

    “Then again, maybe I’m wrong to even give a crap.”

    Again, is not a wrong or right thing–it’s a choice and some times not giving a crap is actually very healthy. maybe even for everyone involved.

    Given everything, I do admire your courage though, but you still need to choose where to place it that will make the most impact. otherwise….what a waste of energy.right?

    My believe is ……’Less is more’

    until our next comment—have a great day girl!!

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