The Natural’s Dilemma

The Natural — the man who has a seemingly otherworldly ability to entrance women. The Natural — not the CEO, nor the jet fighter, nor the doctor — is the man most men secretly admire and wish they had some of his mysterious mojo.

But in reality he does not possess any magical abilities out of reach of ordinary men. The Natural is similar to the self-taught pickup artist, with the critical distinction being that the former assimilated the lessons of love earlier in life. His masterstrokes paint the canvas of women effortlessly because he has been in training since he first noticed that girls and boys are different. If you break down the game of Naturals, you’ll learn that their maneuvers and tactics and strategies, far from being indefinable essences that only a very few lucky can lay claim to, are in fact identical to the blueprints of learned game.

Neither is the Natural necessarily good-looking. Many Naturals, perhaps most of them, are nondescript in the looks department. But because there is good reason to think a lot of them have inherited the Dark Triad suite of personality traits, they are skilled at presenting themselves in a way that projects their sex appeal, or invents it whole cloth, if need be.

No, what the Natural has that mere mortals don’t is this: UNSTOPPABLE CONFIDENCE. They had the ALPHA ATTITUDE at a young enough age that it became ingrained to such an extent they rarely yield to the temptation to doubt their appeal to women.

But the Externally Validated Natural who has spent a lifetime leaning on his looks/social connections/fame to get laid has a dilemma. As a reader puts it:

I’ve said it many times before, the most pathetic thing in the world is a natural who has lost his mojo.

The very blessing that makes The Natural an early adopter ladykiller is the curse that hobbles him later in life when challenges arise that introduce cracks to his impenetrable edifice of entitlement. You see, the Externally Validated Natural has not bothered to learn the crimson arts. He has not mastered the state control that is necessary when inevitable dry spells occur, or when glances from women are fewer and farther between, or when uppity women with visions of mcmansion upgrades dancing in their heads give him shit he is not accustomed to receiving. He has never studied how to remain aloof and indifferent in the face of female fickleness because he has rarely experienced what life is like as a beta male who must battle to be loved, rather than watching love fall in his lap like autumn leaves.

The Natural who understands on a more than superficial level the nature of women, and who has a working familiarity with game concepts, is a force ten charmer. Most Naturals don’t; they do the right things without knowing how or why they do them. When success eludes them and the expected warmth from women is missing, they are left with nothing, no storehouse of knowledge or pride of past successes achieved through self-aware hard work, to pull them up from a dangerous downward spiral into the betatude they never quite understood either.





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  1. Well, I must say I’m glad that I’m not a natural then 🙂

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    • I have a theory about “The Natural”.

      It’s kinda the White Peoples’ version of Amy Chua and the Tiger Mom phenomenon.

      And here’s the theory: I think that some Dads CHEAT and teach their sons all the secrets at a very young age.

      Kinda like what Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel used to do with that fat obnoxious kid on The Man Show.

      Can you imagine how much more poontang you would have scored in the early years if your Dad had taught you the forbidden secrets?

      But instead your Dad forces you to be self-taught and to learn all the lessons for yourself.

      Yeah, long-term, it’s a much better character-building exercise to absorb all the “hard knocks”, and to learn from experience, but wow, can you imagine if you had had the “White-Peoples-Amy-Chua-Dad” in, say, Middle School?

      Being an 8th-Grader and hitting on all that fine-assed perky young just-barely-pubescent poontang?

      Shit damn, man, shit damn.

      Actually, on second thought [thinking about all that jailbait tail], maybe I should thank my Dad for keeping me out of prison [or at least out of Reform School] at that age…

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  2. I think the biggest obstacle for non-naturals is self-awareness. At least it is in my case.

    I mean I see some of the pickup lines and examples of humor suggested here and think “wow, that is the lamest thing you can possibly say, who the fuck would respond well to that sort of thing”. I’m always having to dumb down my discourse just to get on the same page with your average brain dead Western whore.

    Naturals are seemingly born without self-awareness; they can just barge into a social situation and say the dumbest shit and not even care. A gift and a curse I guess.

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    • Good comment.

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      • To a fucking T, these are the naturals I and my gf work with at the club.

        What are some strategies to remain aloof around these hyenas while they semi-game my girl when I’m around, and I’m sure game when I’m not.

        Abundance mentality is one.

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      • This is simply due to low intelligence and/or low social class. The lower class are actually saved from the more severe effects of feminist idealogy due to their own stupidity. Their ineptitude when it comes to things such as finance, science and social graces afforded to classes above them is the same ineptitude that allows them to dismiss shitty paradigms such as feminism. So the lower the intelligence, the more that person will rely on their natural disposition without interference from their front lobe and if that chemistry is high in testorone, the natural will shine through. See Mike ‘The Situation’ for an example.

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    • “wow, that is the lamest thing you can possibly say, who the fuck would respond well to that sort of thing”

      This is more a function of your beta/omega resentment than it is the lack of “self-awareness” you determined from the outside of the dynamic. You regard it “a curse” because you don’t have the nerve or the imagination or the experience to make it work. And then you blame your failure on women. These are all telltale signs. Your resentment is a big factor in what makes you/keeps you “non-natural.”

      Women aren’t “your average brain dead Western whore.” They just process social information very differently than you have the capacity to imagine. Communication with them isn’t about content and quantity, as it is with men speaking to men, but rather tone, quality, and authority. They feel, they don’t microanalyze.

      For example, “Hey, slut” has very different meanings to a girl depending on who is talking to her, how he says it, how familiar he is, where they are, and who is around. She is processing this in the precise way the “natural” intends it, while you stand flabbergasted in the background that he gets away with calling a girl a slut — rather than how he got away with it.

      It must be his looks. Or because he’s tall. Or if he’s short and ugly, it must be the money. Etc.

      Matt

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      • “This is more a function of your beta/omega resentment than it is the lack of self-awareness” you determined from the outside of the dynamic.”

        Nah, no resentment, I just find common pick-up tactics to be obvious and cliched, sort of like a watching a dreadfully unfunny black comedian after seeing a hilarious and clever white one. It doesn’t require “nerve or experience”.

        “Women aren’t “your average brain dead Western whore.” They just process social information very differently than you have the capacity to imagine.”

        Holy white knight Batman. I say they’re just dumb.

        Look I usually value your comments on this blog but you are way off the mark here. A lot of low-class naturals are completely oblivious to concepts like irony, sarcasm, etc. Hence, no self-awareness.

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      • Holy white knight Batman. I say they’re just dumb. … A lot of low-class naturals are completely oblivious to concepts like irony, sarcasm, etc. Hence, no self-awareness.

        Yeah, but just saying they’re “dumb” is dumb in itself. There’s more going on there.

        They aren’t fine-tuned to “concepts like irony, sarcasm” because, as naturally successful social beings (both born alphas and the women you regard as mere ditzes), they have no use for misdirection, concealment, passivity, or private snark. The super-clever and sarcastic retreat to those poses out of an inability to be/the fear of being direct, and they sneer at the fake inferiority they fantasize about others (they’re too prole to get it, sigh) to artificially inflate their otherwise flaccid egos. Or did you miss the correlation between wispy ectomorph hipster SWPL and irony?

        Really it’s just a more sophisticated, updated version of: if they have a high sexual market value, that proves they’re dumb. “You might have all the looks, but I have the brains.” The Marilyn Monroe syndrome. Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful. Etc.

        By the way, save the inane accusations of white knightery for the genuine article. I’m not defending female stupidity, I’m explaining it so it can be better manipulated.

        Matt

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  3. These risks are mitigated somewhat, especially when the natural is young. I knew a natural while I was living in the dorms, and he was in no danger of experiencing betatude, because his lifestyle would not permit it. He was too busy having casual sex to know what it’s like not to be able to have casual sex on a whim.

    That said, he once hooked up with a girl in a hotel stairwell and later complained to me that the girl was constantly texting him. This lack of insight of female nature on his part baffled me, and this was before I knew a thing about pick up artists or game (except what I saw from naturals).

    I can see that there is always an ever present danger, but at least until he’s 30 or maybe older, he’ll never really experience the burn of that danger in most cases. He may be blissfully unaware of what makes him successful and why, but for him it’s still blissful.

    The biggest danger to the natural, if he hopes to maintain his lifestyle, is the “biological clock” that a lot of men fall prey to (even naturals) when they get out of their twenties. They see all of their guy friends getting married and they think, “Eh, why not?” They’re completely unprepared for the strong pull towards beta that a relationship will exert on them, and this is where their natural abilities will get made or start to fade.

    What makes them unprepared is that they spent their entire lives learning absolutely no skills to cope with the pressure they’re subjecting themselves to.

    Some naturals continue to live alone, and probably those are the ones who are most safe from these dangers.

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  4. A kid on my floor freshman year was mind boggling. I wouldn’t even say he was supremely confident, and certainly not markedly good looking. He was a very, very social and very nice, Christian guy. He was also at times completely oblivious to the attention women paid him, and maybe even a little more clueless escalating things.

    Example: Hottest co-ed at a house party we were at needs to go help one of her roommates puke and clean herself up, asks X to hold her cell phone so he can’t leave the party without talking to her first. She gives him the phone and leaves, he turns and asks me, sincerely, why she didn’t just put her phone in her pocket. If the saddest thing in the world is a natural who has lost his confidence, one of the funnier is an unconscious, oblivious natural.

    By the end of the first semester, he had a harem of female orbiters. It was amazing. Really good looking gals on a campus with over 20,000 female undergrads. He was such a nice guy, no one even got envious. We’d just laugh and say, there goes X.

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  5. yep, as a former sub-natural, it’s odd to not see girls straining to make eye contact with me or cold approaching me with random stupid questions. External validation, it’s a bitch.

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  6. I wish I would have discovered game 10 years ago instead of last year. I was doing good beforehand (25ish notch count) but I’m too old, boring and busy now to go sarging and be bringing home random broads (and I really have no interest pussy that wants to go clubbing). I am glad I discovered this site and others because once it combined with my strong-beta naturalness and I had a framework to analyze past actions, it made my current long term monogamous relationships fucking tight.

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  7. the thing is naturals can be a natural at attraction and seduction, but have not taken the red pill about the reality of female nature.

    thus they may suck at LTRs, and screening girls for LTRs.

    the biggest life of the party natural I knew got married WAY too soon at like 24 or 25 to a super hot club slut. I’d put the odds that she cheats on him somewhere roughly between 90-100%.

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  8. on December 11, 2012 at 6:40 pm Customer Service

    Just like anything in life talent only goes so far, you need to understand the basics, practice smart and work hard to truly maximize any ability.

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  9. I disagree completely, the worst problem for naturals and I know this for a fact is ennui. Once you get a little older but still able to pull, you get to the point where you think to your self, “Why?” I think back on my life in the seventies, eighties, nineties and the first decade of the twenty first and hell, I can’t remember them all even though I try to on occasion. I’m lucky if I can remember a couple of dozen of their names much less what they looked like at the time. The worst thing for a natural is to get into his fifties when his SMP value is the highest (which it should be if he’s played his cards right) and be completely bored by the bitches. I retired at fifty and that’s my situation. I can’t be bothered anymore.

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    • When I read stuff like that, all I can think of is “Jaded sucks. So what ya gonna do about it?”

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      • Not much you can do about being jaded. I was just lucky to live in the best environment for a young man to be able to fuck a (huge) bunch of women over three decades. And squeeze in a fifteen year marriage during that time. That’s the most interesting story I’ve never written about and probably never will.

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      • Just curious, why did you divorce? Was it because of your cheating, or because you wanted more freedom to play? But you also say that now in your 50s, boredom is setting in with that lifestyle. So I am just curious why get a divorce then.

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      • She got fat. Nuff said.

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      • Indeed!

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    • I think you are describing a force ten charmer who outgrew the need to conquer nondescript she-children with decades of success and who has matured with studied experience and success in general to set his sights on new explorations to challenge himself. You understand Game theory. Ennui is a new word for me. I think there is a pall of ennui over the Western population in general. So now I wonder if capacity for boredom is limited by ability to grow as a person. Can the clueless natural get bored with bedding women without having something better to do from the inside? I get the impression, having been shocked by living in the Bible Belt, that white trash will find a way to enjoy themselves without risk of outgrowing the white trash state of mind. Maybe your perspective on the natural’s ennui would make a good blog post? And I’m jealous.

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    • “There lives within the very flame of love
      A kind of wick or snuff that will abate it;
      And nothing is at a like goodness still;
      For goodness, growing to a plurisy,
      Dies in his own too much. That we would do
      We should do when we would; for this “would” changes
      And hath abatements and delays as many
      As there are tongues, are hands, are accidents;
      And then this “should” is like a spendthrift sigh,
      That hurts by easing.”
      – Shakespeare (King Claudius in Hamlet)

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    • Bill Powell – do you have any biological children?

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      • Yes, two daughters from a fifteen year marriage. The first was born when I was 39 years old. That should give you a clue where I’m coming from.

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      • You’re early 50s, so your oldest daughter is what – 13 or 14 or 15?

        PLEASE tell me that you are keeping her under lock and key.

        But beyond that, do you think you could get it up for making some more kids with, say, a 30-ish chick?

        Cause there ain’t no ennui in a house full of children.

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      • Oldest daughter is getting ready to turn thirteen and yes, I have her under control as much as I can considering that she doesn’t live with me. She at her young age knows about the red pill, I let her read my blog and others that I think will help her navigate the turmoil that is to come.

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      • She at her young age knows about the red pill, I let her read my blog and others that I think will help her navigate the turmoil that is to come.

        Live experimentation on baby hamsters. Let us know the results of your research. They mean everything to our future.

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      • I always liked William Powell’s movies. I even grew a mustache like his once.

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      • As for more kids, I’m always up for that.

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      • Maybe he’s trying to make a hockey player this time?

        http://gossipextra.com/2012/09/28/venus-serena-williams-dad-richard-baby-1870/

        Richard Williams, the 70-year-old tennis-coaching dad of Palm Beach Gardens champs Serena and Venus Williams, has become a dad again, Gossip Extra has learned.

        For some reason, neither the sisters nor Richard have spoken publicly about the little boy born on the first week of the US Open, in late August.

        But a close confidante of Richard tells me Williams’ 33-year-old wife and rabid tennis fan Lakeisha couldn’t attend the tournament won by Serena because she was recovering from the birth.

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      • Now we know where the Williams girls get their taste for competition and status and testosterone

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    • Agreed, and I will add to it. Ennui is something I deal with in life in general, every day. Women have been one of many outlets to fill that restless void. I consider myself somewhat of a natural and never had a problem pulling pretty damn hot girls…long, long before I discovered Game.

      The restlessness really is a killer though. When you’ve bedded a lot of hb’s and know you can bed more, it’s hard to stifle the restless discontent even when you have something really, really good. This has been the hardest part for me. Right now in my life there is a girl who mid-twenties, smokin’ hot, highest sex drive I’ve encountered, low partner count, loyal to a t (never even seen her look at another guy), very intelligent, no debt, supportive, etc, etc. I know she is thinking marriage eventually, and she deserves it as much as one girl can, but I constantly find myself thinking about the greener grass. It feels like a clusterfuck…damned if I do, damned if I don’t.

      I am in my late 20’s. Would appreciate thoughts from any other “naturals” or experienced gentlemen who’ve been through this…

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      • tough one .. today marriage is a 50/50 bet happiness wise for a guy even with a great woman because a woman changes who she is every 5 years.. and they are not geared to change themselves for the support of the man anymore because the cultural self centered pull is to strong in US .. 60 yrs of professional commercials has made it all about what other people think for women

        The main thing for a young guy is to maintain focus on core life goals.. and lead .. not co lead .. discussions or teamwork .. you will be shipwrecked.. design your life to pull her into your orbit ..and never compromise..

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      • The age difference is too small.
        Be smart and think long-term when it comes to marriage.

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      • “it’s hard to stifle the restless discontent even when you have something really, really good.”

        If she is really really good, then don’t let her go. There isn’t something good that often these day. However, if you are still searching and looking for others, then don’t marry her. You’ll end up cheating on her and both of you will be living a mess, maybe divorce and whatnot. Don’t put yourself and her through this. One should get married only when they are truly ready.

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      • I agree “something truly good” doesn’t come around often, but if he is discontent and restless now how on earth will things look in a few years? The question isn’t ‘is she a good thing?’ or ‘is he a good thing?’ but ‘do they have a good thing?’ and, more importantly, ‘is she The One?’ Because if she isn’t the one, after a few years (likely far less than that) she will sense it and stop being such a good thing. It’s hard to stay positive if you sense your mate is discontent with you, and the senses don’t lie even if you can’t point to the problem with the relationship and it looks shiny on the outside it’s rotten at the core already.

        And The One might not even look spectacular on paper with a list of perfect attributes. And The One might not even be what you thought you were looking for. But you know it when you find them and when that happens you don’t have to ask anyone if he/she is the right one. I don’t know what makes a person ‘The One’, maybe it’s biology and compatible smells. I just know you need that special something that makes you want to still pick their underwear off the floor in fifteen years (as a female analogy anyway).

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      • “Do they have a good thing”: this is a very sensible perspective. There will always be another person that could be better; it comes down to the choice of whether or not you want to make something work.

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      • You are definitely new here, considering your appeal to highly suspect feminist platitudes that, while asked and answered on sites like these to the point of excruciating familiarity, still have yet to be debunked far and wide, such as, “Is she The One?” in Capital Letters.

        This is a men’s club, not a dopey rom-com where your hero literally sniffs panties and sighhhhs all the way to the altar.

        Matt

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      • Oh for christ’s sake King.

        That wasn’t Feminist, it was feminine. A feminist would claim they don’t need an f*ing man and men suck blah dee blah. I have only sons and really like men. I like them better than women in general. I found ‘the One’ very young. Yes, I believe that description to be accurate.

        Now, good day sir I won’t let the door hit me where the good Lord split me. I do not belong in a dopey rom-com, but definitely don’t belong here either. Best of luck to you all.

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      • Liz, please don’t leave, just because some guy gives you shit. LOL! I get shit all the time. Who cares?

        He’s a smart man, but he also misunderstands a lot. He needs to stop jumping on every woman, as if she is a feminist or a snake trying to pollute men’s minds.

        Not everything they say here is true, and many times they point out women’s shortcomings while overlooking men’s. So I wouldn’t get all worked up over it.

        The truth is, and it’s the truth and no one could deny it, men too, like women, want to find love. A man wants the love of a woman who truly loves him and will not hold everything against him (compassion and forgiveness from a woman), looks up to him, is fiercely loyal to him, will be a partner not a competitor, will be a complement not the same or totally different. If you don’t believe me then look at this statement from CH:

        “He has never studied how to remain aloof and indifferent in the face of female fickleness because he has rarely experienced what life is like as a beta male who must battle to be loved”

        They feel they need to fight to get what’s rightfully theirs, love, ‘cause women can turn on them in an instant. And that’s because feminists told women to reject men and seek their own self-fulfillment independently through unrestrictive sex and the pursuit of a career. Men are right; it’s the case. It’s very hard to find a good woman suitable to become a wife. But women have the same exact problem. Men have become feminized, and as a result not very attractive to women. So it’s a second reason why women are rejecting men. And all it does is it creates a self-perpetuating vicious cycle of unrequited needs for both sexes. It’s truly a mess.

        That’s why I told AW:” If she is really really good, then don’t let her go. There isn’t something good that often these day.”

        But of course, if he is thinking about other women still, then he’s not satisfied with her enough. Maybe he needs more time, and unfortunately he’ll have to scarify this relationship. But one has to do what one feels is best , not what’s logical. As you said, sometimes we can’t even recognize the ONE until much later. So how do we know if one is the ONE? Male-female relations is very complicated. It’s often navigated through feelings and emotions. If we’re lucky we’ll make the right decisions, if not, then there will be more unhappiness piling up, which is why divorce is so high now.

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      • It refreshing to hear from new people.

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      • Elizabeth, sweetness, our new sister and friend, bijou, today’s your coming out party! You won’t last here long waxing poetic about the virtues of “oneitis” without rebuke. Now you’ve been initiated. Happy day!

        Yes, women pine after “The One” (which has its own problems, but leave that thorny issue aside). You advised men to look upon women the same way, and that is indeed cryptofeminism. Or in the parlance of this website, an entitled princess regarding herself as somebody’s “special little snowflake.” The soulmate doctrine is harmful for everyone who indulges in it. It doesn’t prepare man or woman for the roiling realities of what bond people and tear them apart.

        As the girls here will tell you, you can’t be thin-skinned. Pouting and stomping off won’t ever work. I appreciate your fresh take on things, but my rebuke saved you a lot of grief from others who would rather treat you like a pinata for your innocent mistakes.

        Lately I have desperately pondered, I spent my nights awake, and I wonder what I could have done in another way to make you stay. Reason will not lead to solution. I will end up lost in confusion. I don’t care if you really care as long as you don’t go.

        XOXO
        Matt

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      • you didn’t actually say you wanted to get married or have kids, only that you know she’s thinking marriage and that she deserves it. marrying a girl out of guilt is a fail.

        let her go, unless you’ve guessed wrong and she’s okay with you not marrying her. you’ve yet to peak as a man; she’s already peaking as a woman. if she wants to settle down and have kids, don’t get in the way of that.

        new grass grows every day. stay focused and fit – in 10 years when you’re truly ready to settle down and start a family, you’ll be able to find another girl like her.

        p.s. ignore that ‘the one’ nonsense someone else posted – that fairy tale shit’s for girls.

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      • I guess this is pretty much what it boils down to. I’m not really trying to do all that in life right now, and I know that’s where she wants to go. I’d certainly wouldn’t mind keeping her around, but the thought of marriage makes me feel a bit suffocated…it doesn’t help that she her family is all hardcore Christians pressuring her into marriage. Damn it.

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      • Don’t do it… “I am in my late 20′s. Would appreciate thoughts from any other “naturals” or experienced gentlemen who’ve been through this…”. Yes she is hot now, but 10 years from now near 40 you will be -peaking- and she will be way way down on the back nine of the course. Half your age +7 is the old adage about age differential and I’m inclined to agree. At 40 scoop a late 20 something maybe early 30 that has maintained her looks and figure.

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    • Fecisti nos ad te et inquietum est cor nostrum donec requiescat in te.

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  10. My girl wants….nay, NEEDS to see Anna Karenina.

    I dont want to see it.

    I told her to go with her girlfriends, hell even that guy that is “just her friend” but she said she will not see it without me.

    Is this her way of telling me that she is cheating on me with a cavalry officer? She is of Russian descent soo….

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    • Maybe she’s cheating on you with the cavalry officers horse…

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      • Its Tolstoy’s story about a cheating girl. Nothing interesting about it. Srsly, does that guy have some sort of cuckold fetish? If I am not mistaken he always have at least 1 cheating character.

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      • In Mother Russia, the novels read you.

        Tell her that you and her must first read the book… to each other, naked, with no heat on in the house… so the movie doesn’t spoil the impact of the literature.

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      • Ana Karenina is a story of female Hypergamy. It is not the greatest love story as it is being told in the media. Tolstoy understood women. Watch the movie you may learn something.

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      • You are a boor.

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      • C’mon! it’s considered a classic; just go and see it.

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      • on December 12, 2012 at 9:39 am Hugh G. Rection

        A 2012 movie is considered a classic?

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      • Keira Knightley… pffffft.

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      • Pfffft you. I … don’t know you anymore.

        Stop aiming your leaky tire all over my svelte kinswomen. I’ll admit Keira Knightley’s bony edges have sharpened over the years as she swoops closer and closer to the wall, but we’ll always have Bend It Like Beckham and Pride and Prejudice, Joe Wright’s last good movie (and it is very good, one of the best of last decade). I look forward to his Karenina.

        [Knightley’s] surprisingly strong performance as the adulterous aristocrat is a reminder that she’s still only 27 and may have the best of her oeuvre ahead of her. She looks great in Muscovite fashions, too, often sporting a transparent veil that casts a softening shadow on her imposing jawline.

        Steve Sailer

        Matt

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      • Just not my taste… I leave the waif-cum-imposing-jawline types to you aristois… make mine the zaftig milk maid.

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      • The story is considered a classic, obviously not the film. Speaking of calssics, did anyone see any of the originals, especially the ones with Greta Garbo and the other one that followed a few years later with Vivian Leigh? The Greta Garbo one was very boring, but the one with Vivian Leigh was better. I love Vivian Leigh. She was very magnetic. But overall, both of them were bland, and that’s because the story is bland. Not enough passion – just selfish wretched characters living their own self-imposed hell. It’s no Pride and Prejudice. And the latest film is along these same lines, except this movie is like an art picture – gorgeous period piece with a beautiful set, and characters dressed to the nines in imperial Russia. So it’s worth seeing, even if you don’t like the story.

        I agree with Matt, Keira Knightley was beautiful in Pride and Prejudice. Today not so much, I don’t know what’s with her. I think she’s going mad and it shows on her face. She often acts weird. But, I couldn’t have casted anyone better than her as Karenina. Joe Wright is very talented, but his latest attempt is not like Pride.

        Here is Keira Knightley’s take on her character Karenina. There is also a clip from the film in the second page. Of course, she justifies some of her character’s activity with mambo jumbo feminism, but hey it’s the norm these days.
        http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/12/07/keira-knightley-sex-self-destruction-in-anna-karenina/

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      • It’s all about that devastatingly cute underbite.

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      • Maybe she’s cheating on you with the cavalry officers horse…

        Neigh, neigh!

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    • The cheating russian girl dies a horrible death…

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    • Weird.

      I remember reading it, and was surprised at how “reviewers” and movies adapted it before—most concentrate solely on the slutty housewife/dashing alpha. Except that’s literally only half the story—the other half is about a good, beta man who woos a pretty-but-naive girl, Kitty, (whom the dashing alpha ignored for the slutty housewife), and wins her into a happy, religious, monogamous marriage.

      Tolstoy was always bent towards supporting Christianity and Russian society (one dirty secret the left never tells you is that both Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky were both very socially conservative and patriotic), and “Anna Karenina” was meant as a moral tale—the bad, “sexy” love of Anna K, which ends horribly, and the happy, pure “love” of the other two lovers, who end up elevated because they follow society’s conventions.

      But lefties, in both movies and reviews, always emphasized the “exciting” Anna K. love, both by degrading her husband in the film and all but ignoring the other, equal plot. In fact, they always used the same logic in describing Anna K’s love affair as they do describing black violence—instead of calling it the fault of the person involved (Anna K/black people), they instead call it “a tragedy.”

      Yes, because slutting it up just happens (/sarcasm).

      In contrast to feminazi and leftist slanders about how religious conservative people are naive, Tolstoy was very keen on how “sexy” love affairs are much better and fun at the beginning, but end horribly, and how women are at fault for all the “tragedy” involved. Tolstoy saw that Christianity and society were intertwined—that the chaste, monogamous love promoted by Christianity promoted happy families and stable, prosperous societies.

      Reviewers have pointed out that this newest movie Anna K. is the first one in memory that actually shows her cuckolded husband to be a decent man whose cuckoldry isn’t deserved by Anna K; in other words, Anna K. bears responsibility for destroying her family unnecessarily. That’s a bit of good news in these dark days.

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    • Go see it. Everything Tolstoy wrote is great. He was a genius of the highest order.

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    • Wait a minute … Anna ends up DEAD from her cheating. So it’s a good morality play. No reason not to go see it. I thought it was a great movie. Only good thing Jude Law has ever done.

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      • Jude Law?
        If you absolutely, positively CANNOT bring yourself to actually read the book, I recommend the b&w version with Vivien Leigh.

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  11. Naturals just use the DENNIS system.

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  12. There’s some truth in this argument, I learned the red pill the hard way. By my early twenties I was excellent at seducing women but shit at understanding women…I saw myself as the bad person and gave women a pass. In my thirties I started to settle down but realized it was boring as shit. I started hitting the clubs and was terrible, sometimes leaving in literal shame. I came across heartsite back when it was the previous site (can’t remember it now) and realized I had to re-learn old tricks (I’m almost 40)..read the stuff almost daily and started reading Roosh as well…. extremely tough time for me…made a ton of mistakes but kept reminding myself to keep moving forward. I hit a few hot streaks with the highlight being dating a stunning 24 yr. old for over 6 months until she wanted me to get her pregnant…broke up with her over that.

    I’m proof that game can be learned or re-learned, its tough but as men we have to keep on hustling….

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  13. More dangers lay in victory than in defeat.

    I have a friend who fits the bill perfectly. Tall, handsome and a top-tier lady killer. None come close. For as long I remember he could pull random girls at parties without effort. His early successes snowballing into a solid alpha frame.

    However, the ease of his victories permitted a host of delusions unafforded to the common man. Without the hard crucible of failure, he was free to develop many beta, white knight and anti-game tendencies. He once advised a friend to make his texts as long and verbose as possible to “not give her room to misinterpret”.

    No doubt his momentum will carry him forward to many more successful lays. However his beta inertia will eventually grind his gravy train to a halt.

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  14. I imagine the ‘game’ becomes very very tiresome eventually.

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  15. The Natural’s Solution….

    wait for it……

    RAPE!

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  16. OT: Terrific analysis of the ratchet personality type. Having hung out with 18 year olds for about 10 years now, I can personally attest that more white girls turn into this every year (and none of them have dads.) http://blackgirlsareeasy.com/2011/03/how-to-train-your-ratchet.html

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  17. When you peel their skins off, women are so much the same underneath. I mean that in a nice way.
    But knowing this tends to reduce a mans drive and enthusiasm for finding The One. Because it always seems to come down to finding the One More. The difference is not subtle.

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  18. Actually naturals have better things to do than chasing women when they mature like becoming CEOs, politicians, historical titans and world leaders. To many naturals leaving a legacy for the history books is more impressive than bedding Cleopatra. I doubt Donald Trump had a beta lapse, but I go to sleep knowing I can outgame “PUAs” or nerds even on my worst day.

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    • I don’t think anyone can argue with you here. There are many better things men can do in life, and those things also happen to bring girls to you like magic.

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  19. I know a natural who is now in his mid 50’s married to a decent woman (cooks, cleans, doesn’t break balls too much) and has a bunch of daughters approaching their early to late teens.

    Throughout his 20’s, partly due to looks, right physique, confidence, social proofing (playing in a band; driving a cool car), he would also go out to bars and clubs 4-5 times a week and meet a heap of women and get laid pretty damn often.

    If you asked him how he did it, his reponse would be, “just talk to them”.

    He ended up marrying his now wife in his early 30’s.

    Thing is though; he spent so much time chasing pussy and going out that his job or career prospects suffered greatly and now he barely makes a decent living.

    The kicker is that he never actually left home and still lives in the same house as his dad who breaks his balls all the time.
    The fact that his wife has put up with grandpa in the same house is a testament to her wife qualities.

    What I am alluding to is that a strength; being a Natural, can become a long term weakness if taken too far or solely relied on for too long.
    The looks, charm and confidence of a Natural in his 20’s only goes so far.

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    • this x 5 -> the best naturals put in zero effort and focus on their own interests

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      • Correct. Pursue your path, and the universe will provide your females. Generate traffic via PUA methods, and you will live on the hamster wheel.

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  20. “If you break down the game of Naturals, you’ll learn that their maneuvers and tactics and strategies, far from being indefinable essences that only a very few lucky can lay claim to, are in fact identical to the blueprints of learned game.”

    Things being done by one person can be learned by another. Hence why learning to be successful with women is a skill that can be learned. Just as you an study the best minds to learn the theory to become a better architect/economist/etc, you can become better with women.

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  21. I have a highly intelligent, accomplished friend who is the complete opposite of a natural.

    Is there a word for a man who steadfastly refuses to speak to any woman that he would not marry? I used to meet girls at the bar, talk him up, then lead them over in an attempt to make him socialize. He flatout refused even to chitchat.

    He was under the delusion that when he met the “perfect” girl, all of his game skills would suddenly emerge, in full flower. (He also had one of the worst cases of oneitis I’ve ever seen.)

    He did get married recently, presumably as a virgin, to another virgin.

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    • “Is there a word for a man who steadfastly refuses to speak to any woman that he would not marry? ”

      Yes, Tim Tebow.

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    • on December 12, 2012 at 1:52 am man from the past

      It sounds like he successfully achieved one of the best possible mating outcomes in this day and age, roughly according to plan. (There is a well-known discontinuity re: probability of fidelity between virgin girls and everyone else.) Good for him.

      Some men, myself included, consider casual sex and anything related to it to be a cost, not a benefit. Unlike your friend, I’m willing to put up with some of it to develop the image and social skills necessary to have reasonable choice in mates, but I have no illusions about my final objective of pairing up with a woman with the genetics and inclination to conceive and raise smart kids.

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    • I kid you not, I have a guy friend who is a mormon and a virgin. Thing is, he is unbearably attractive and i guess would be considered a natural in the way he talks to and approaches girls. He is also holding out to have sex until he is married. He was by no means a “nice guy” but for some reason, was perfectly fine getting to know a girl, regardless of her spiritual inclinations and would take them out with no expectation of getting laid. I think since he never saw getting laid as the ultimate goal he naturally remained aloof which drove girls crazy. He would tell me stories of reverse escalation (where the girls are the ones trying to escalate quickly to some sexual end). I am sure he gets mad bjs though even though he denies it. smh

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      • I kid you not…

        It’s … it’s inexplicable!

        Regarding a loss of self-control at the instigation of women as a positive virtue is novel to the sexual revolution. This truism is one of the subterranean footers still propping up the sinking, sagging feminist edifice.

        PUA’s convince themselves that variety and quantity constitutes their greatest desire, which is an adolescent urge. Indeed, their philosophy must consider it the highest possible human goal — until they achieve it. Then the doubts and ennui of success set in, as is now happening across the board with the first and second generations of modern pick-up artistry.

        It’s currently fashionable to live one’s life as though sterile rutting were the summum bonum of existence. But to see how viciously the adherents lampoon self-control is to understand the superficiality of this claim. Why does Tim Tebow or your Mormon friend irk them?

        “I am sure he gets mad bjs though even though he denies it.” How are you sure, other than by virtue of your inability to imagine a person taking command of his id, rather than automatically submitting it to the prerogatives of the present sexual anomie? How much of his “unbearably attractive” presence is owed to a self-evident self-control and confidence against the zeitgeist? These are questions that cannot be answered with the hypergamous scramble you use for judgment.

        Your friend manifests Game 2.0. Game 1.0 refined technique via “the world’s largest trial and error experiment ever performed.” But it was always a means in search of an end. In the thick of it, mountains of endless pussy sufficed as a placeholder-goal for those who had no need to imagine what the summit would actually be like. Now those same PUA’s have made it to that peak and despair (as much as their pride allows) with Alexander the Great that “there are no more worlds to conquer.” The more thoughtful PUAsophers are pivoting to other horizons, attempting to apply game to other contexts. But they possess little knowledge of those contexts because of their years of monomaniacal focus on one metric of success.

        Those contexts are what your bestest “guy friend” is gaining by not investing his soul in dozens or hundreds of faceless holes, or still worse, in the methodology that yields notch maximization. It is a rational decision, not the sure sign of defect. Do they all have to be as purely chaste as the Mormon or the Tebow? Of course not. But an awareness of what one loses as well as what one gains from a certain lifestyle is the prerequisite for purposeful, individual decision-making (i.e., manliness), as opposed to bobbing like a cork along the sewer tides of our culture.

        For men there is a lot of leeway. For women, none at all. To dump your dick in every receptacle that offers is debasing, but it is an infinitesimal indignity compared to being the wide-open dumpster.

        Matt

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  22. Totally disagree about looks. Most Naturals are definately Lookers – as in, they are above average in looks and/or physique. From my experience most of them are classically good-looking, but not pretty boys: tall, broad shoulders, strong brow and jaw, etc. Yes, there  are exceptions who are short and skinny, but good looking, as well as those who are tall and robust, but homely. Not to say the rest of us can’t mimic the Naturals, but their work is cut out for them. In fact, most of the Natural Alphas I’ve come across in my life – high school football captain, fraternity president, former Marine-now-entrepeneur- had terrible Game.

    [Heartiste: Football captains, frat presidents, and entrepreneurs are all examples of men with high social status. They would do well with women regardless of their game skills or looks.]

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    • By the way, I’m a different Jason from the one above.

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    • but….but….but….waddaboud ‘game’????
      Jus’ kidding, I agree.
      The short ‘naturals’ have something the chicks want.
      Money, drugs, cool job (band,Navy , film), that sort of thing.

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  23. Late-fifties natural here. Had it – never lost it – cause it’s just, well, natural. Carry on grasshoppers

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  24. External validation is an easy trap to fall into. Just the other night, walking behind my date I saw people looking, regularly (5’10 – an 8 but the tall ones with long legs get the attention of a 9 or 10). Rather than get pride or an ego boost from it, for the first time I was conscious of – that’s not where I want to get my sense of worth. I wasn’t annoyed, but :

    1. It was an active process to realize and keep reminding myself that the attention she was getting had nothing to do with me

    2. To be alarmed that a woman going through life like this herself has to be someone special to separate her sense of self worth from all of this external validation.

    ++

    Let me say this: Virtually ALL, no, strike that: simply ALL of the best players, naturals, from my youth (I am 48) have lost that mojo they had with women and almost in general in life – because it came from a wrong, unsustainable, place. Almost all of them were very good looking ladies men which I suppose is where their validation started, but last time I was with them I felt like if you took a photo of their midsections above their waists and below their chests you’d have thought for sure it was a gathering of women late in their 3rd trimester.

    As for me, I’ve been working around the problem for years (super shape, tall, good looking, financially successful, plenty of material possessions that should ‘attract’) but I am positively, absolutely the poster boy for how none of that matters (it’s been 4 bad years recently, only recovering now with the wisdom in places like this and a LOT of effort) if you don’t project yourself well, properly, and understand what the stuff in this blog is all about. It’s like taking an alcoholic (let’s say educated one) off the street, cleaning him up, getting him a haircut, putting a designer suit on him and sending him out and expecting him to go succeed in life because of those efforts on the external: not gonna happen because you didn’t address the core problem.

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  25. Ennui is natures way of telling you to it is time to become a monk.

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  26. “In fact, most of the Natural Alphas I’ve come across in my life – high school football captain, fraternity president, former Marine-now-entrepeneur- had terrible Game.”
    Then they are not naturals because a natural is a guy that has Game naturally.
    Nope those guys are what we call guys that are so good looking they get laid anyway.
    Just wait for shit to hit the fan for good looking guy with beta game. Looks only go so far for guys. My brother is one of the best looking men I have personally met, skinny frame with big defined muscles with the face of a model. His had beta Game yet slept with really hot women and would always end up getting played by the same women. He married a fit chick with a femicunt personality. Guess whose balls are in a vice right?

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  27. I saw on a profile on Colombian Cupid. The girl asked for quality in a man of
    “Picardia” which can translate to mischievious, mischief.

    Picar translates to chop, sting ,bite ,prick,itch, nibble, pick

    I am assuming this infers Cocky Funny. Even in Colombia.

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  28. I’m a natural, and I can endorse the first part of this
    post. The second part, I’m not so sure.

    After you’ve fucked many women, in all variations… it starts to lose it’s appeal and mystery, you begin to resent the time and effort it requires to get a particular woman, when another woman can give you satisfaction in half the time that could be spent more productively.

    For at least a decade (aprox. 25-35 yrs old)
    I stopped fucking chicks…and only consented to receiving blowjobs…. this saved a lot of time and effort… entailed no obligations or risk, yet with all the satisfaction. Plus, it left me in the driver’s seat – with my hands on the wheel, owing nothing to no one.

    Beautiful, sexual women meant little to me at that age, unless they wanted to suck my dick, I ignored them, unless of course, they had money, could play poker and understood thoroughbred horse racing, and knew when to shut-up.
    The female response is curiosity…which kills the kitty, and eventually leads them to sucking my dick, a privilege not automatically granted…. unless properly appreciated.
    The thing is no matter how you’re hung…the cock is a magnificent organ, it really is ‘God’s gift to women.’ Besides the male brain, the cock is something women have nothing to match. The vagina, in contrast, is undeniably unpleasant to look at closely, a fact only compensated by the fact your cock has only one unseeing eye. That and normally you cannot see the vagina well. The female mouth has much more ability and talent.

    As for the natural who loses his mojo….I’ve never seen this. I think this only happens when a rare woman turns the tables on the man… and reintroduces the ‘feminine mystique’ which is french for fucked your mind up with her bullshit. Such a person has in fact met a greater natural in female form.

    I suppose sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, if you play the game that way. Modern Woman are schooled in feminine game from infancy. Even though I’ve been keenly interested in gambling (gaming) since pubescence… my interest is confined to gaining other people’s money through superior knowledge … I’m not interested in luck ,chance or challenge when it comes to money or women. I really don’t have any game whatsoever, game is not something I can lose, and that’s why I am a natural.

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  29. You can also argue that learning the technicalities of “Game” can also mess up the natural mojo that a “Natural” posseses.
    You could say that I am a natural. Growing up for me it was almost second nature to create attraction with most girls. I didnt really think much about what I was doing. If anybody asked me how I did it I couldn’t really explain it. When I did encouter problems I knew it was mostly due to my confidence at the moment. I stumbled onto the manosphere. I started reading about the technical side of game. I became aware of “negs,” “showing value,” and all the language used in the manosphere. For some reason I felt like I needed to become better. What happened afterwards was that during my interactions with women, I became like a computer that had to calculate and evaluate every moment to make sure I was negging or being aloof. I stopped doing things naturally and focused to much on the technical side of it. I guess it came full circle and somehow I had to work my way back to being natural again. I realized interactions with women have to be organic and fluid. Its like a dance that you have to be in the moment to enjoy. Because there are times when telling a girl that she looks beautiful is the best thing you can do. And there are times when teasing her is also the best thing you can do. Its more of an instinctual response and in a way you have to think with your dick and not your brain. It also comes down to your inner game. If your inner game is tight you can bet you will say and do the right things at exactly the right time without having to follow a script. If your inner game is tight you can also bet that just by being near a girl, not saying a word, letting every single body movement you make speak for itself, her panties are getting wet at that same moment.

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  30. Great post! This is a very important distinction. Personally, I hate many naturals because they are prone to white-knighting, being deluded about both game and true female nature.

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  31. My dad was a natural (literally pimped his way through life) and fell for a girls snake tears outside of a courthouse and that is how I was born! 😛 She took half his million and moved out with a drummer in a rock band who beat us daily and spent all 500k on trips and drugs for him!

    I took the red pill so fucking young I don’t even have the parts in me but we all fall sometimes so when you see these guys, just smile. You know how to make them misplay, so they are yours to control.

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  32. I’d like to correct an impression I may have suggested in my comment two up. I’m not against game. I am pro game, as pro as is possible. It’s just that my anti-game is a elevated form of game, developed since childhood, but it’s still game.

    Game is essential in this world. Men, from boyhood are pussy whipped from cradle to grave….you are economic cattle to be fattened and slaughtered by the cunts of this world.

    Nor does Game apply only to cunt. It applies to all facets of life that that contain cunt-like attributes.
    Game applies to society at large. It applies to other men, if they be cunts. Game IS natural. Game IS your nature. Game is claiming your rightful respect and power. Game is the way of the killer.
    the cudgel, the sword and the gun. Game is the way of the warrior.

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    • @etype – good stuff here and above – better direction of thought than peacocking.. or squirrel looking for a nut game – most guys practice.. respect

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  33. But game is existential. You have to know you’re gaming to be successful. Being a “natural” means you can bang chicks and still not understand why.

    The whole essence of game is to be a better man, both inner confidence and outer confidence.

    My own experiences since adopting game mean that when i get an IOI, when I get a shit-test, when I get ASD or LMR, I understand why and can calibrate.

    Does a natural really understand a shit test?

    I knew naturals in High School who ended up marrying their high-school sweethearts and then shlubbed along living the beta lifestyle and are now with fat middle-aged hogs.

    Meantime I was lesser beta and moving towards being more alpha through self-awareness.

    I am conscious of shit-tests and passing them. I’m aware of when cocky-funny is over-gaming and can reign it in.

    These are things i’ve learned and practiced.

    I still make mistakes just less of them.

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  34. When you’re a natural, you bang chicks and could give a shit why. what or when.
    No women shit-tests me. Any one who does I destroy, I do not fuck … they can suck my mom’s dick .

    I’ll talk sociably, have a few laughs and pal around with any woman. A lot of my best friends are female. But try any of their tricks and I will destroy them… and they love this.

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  35. I have a step brother that is half a year younger than me who was a natural. He just didn’t care. If anyone was going to ever die of a heart attack it wasn’t him. But did he get the pussy. I’m talking 6th grade banging my 9th grade step sister’s friends. I’m talking fingering all the hot girls at a freakin church lockin all on in night. He is a natural athlete who pretty much didn’t practice all his life and went all the way to play AAA pro ball. I was a half year older and he was bagging and tagging before I was even jerking. And yes my life was filled with hot girls coming up and asking me how he was doing and everything. I’ll say this… there was no room for any more Alpha growing up with my brother. He wasn’t mean or nor did he rub it in my face or anything, he was just amazing. All through high school he was THE jock in every sport. Always had multiple girls on the line AND a steady. Then he got caught and in college and did the unthinkable and fell in love. His wife is unremarkable in every way except one. She gives him freedom. Now he has 3 girls who are going to be beautiful and they’re all free spirited/Alphaish like him. Back when I first met his wife I didn’t understand how he could get such a homely wife, but after getting to know her I understand. He wasn’t worried about her passing on the genes. His alpha genes would take care of those. He was looking for a mother to birth and then watch his kids while he roamed. Still today he can walk up to any girl in the place and just start up the dumbest conversation and leave her wanting him. It’s just the way he’s always been.

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  36. I was a natural in high school that after college, lost mojo but reclaimed it!
    Looking back on how I lost it, it was conforming to what you see on tv and what is expected of you when you get a certain age. In hs,(in the late 80’s) I had long hair, only weighed 150 lbs but was tough and started on football team. I would talk raunchy to women, never had any problems. After college, went clean cut, talked like a gentleman and acted like a meek nice guy, because I thought that was the way you were supposed to act. After studying game, realized I had alot right back in the day.
    Now, I’m 43 and learned game (everything from this site)and have more going on than 20 years ago. If I like a girl/woman for instance a waitress at a restaraunt, all I do is make excellent eye contact, smirk say something slightly humorous like “shouldn’t you be wearing a hair net” then act aloof as hell like her response bored the hell out of me and I’m no longer interested. Pay with a check (most businesses can get your number off a debit now days as well.)
    9 times out of 10, they will get your number and call. When they call, make some stalker comments and the second time they call answer with, “oh yeah your the indentity theif chick”…………….. This works great on 18-22 year olds in college with boyfriends.
    Everything I learned was from this site, which is a reinforcement of what I had known as a kid, but lost along the way.

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  37. Yet, I aspire to be ‘natural’

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  38. Right on point. This is akin to trust fund baby. Wealthy, sure, but never learned the value of the dollar and when the time comes for him/her to take over the empire or tragedy strikes, they don’t know where to begin because they haven’t been through the trials of the ‘lesser’ who built wealth from scratch.

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  39. […] The Natural — the man who has a seemingly otherworldly ability to entrance women. The Natural — not the CEO, nor the jet fighter, nor the doctor — is the man most men secretly admire and wish they had some of his mysterious mojo. But in reality he does not possess any magical abilities out of reach of ordinary men. The Natural is similar to the self-taught pickup artist, with the critical distinction being that the former assimilated the lessons of love earlier in life. His masterstrokes paint the canvas of women effortlessly because he has been in training since he first noticed that girls and boys are different. If you break down the game of Naturals, you’ll learn that their maneuvers and tactics and strategies, far from being indefinable essences that only a very few lucky can lay claim to, are in fact identical to the blueprints of learned game. Neither is the Natural necessarily good-looking. Many Naturals, perhaps most of them, are nondescript in the looks department. But because there is good reason to think a lot of them have inherited the Dark Triad suite of personality traits, they are skilled at presenting themselves in a way that projects their Source: Chateau Heartiste   […]

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  40. The point at which the natural strikes trouble and the down ward spiral begins – puncturing his confidence – is when either
    (i) he hits a dry patch and aims low – to get back in the game
    (ii) is head fucked why lesser women compared to the ones he has already had (with out effort) are totally nonchalant to his charms (or lack of it seems).

    If you are not an architect of you own success then when things are going wrong you don’t know how to fix them. Mostly it is just a random coincidence what they did together with their looks was the successful approach in doing some thing.
    The confidence takes a hit and the approaches dry up and not having developed any skills he then proceeds to approach in a totally ham fisted way and is blown out severely which impacts hugely on his confidence continuing the spiral.

    The best thing for naturals who find game (because they are resilient and have a habit of self improvement or learning new things) is to realize the paradox of even with game less attractive women just don’t seem to respond much at all to you. I am sure a lot would think that they are entitled to have all types of women swoon over them (even thought they don’t want to bang them) since they have had many a hot one.
    Since the natural is often tied to Externally Validation if he doesn’t except the exception he can become totally head fucked. Doubly so if he is sensitive and introverted.

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    • Jimmy, you just described my situation down to a tee…..

      How the fuck does a guy get past that shit and move on??

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      • I think the human mind tries to make sense of something that seems unexplainable or inexplicable – the reasons why certain things are what they are. Or if they are not that much into thinking – they want things to be different to what they seem to be.
        You can go round and round in circles trying to work out the why or stay in the same spot and wish they were different.
        I have found that you just have to spot the pattern or identify the answer (through trial and error and research) but don’t try and think too much about why – if it seems at odds to what you think it should be.
        Otherwise you can get stuck at a point and stay there. People talk about a matrix – when it might be better to think about negotiating a maze.

        If you think about a child who comes out of the womb it knows nothing. It doesn’t know night or day – it has to be taught everything. Often the learning stops at some point in the life. I don’t think the learning ever stops if you want to have forward motion. It can be just a simple application of a few things or a whole sale change.

        The short answer – my mind type just seeks the answer or the truth to something and isn’t side tracked by unexplainable inconsistencies. Finding it takes learning and failure. Except failure as part of the process. Hit rock bottom and start over is often good.

        If you were to ask any older guys (or older people) who are successful at some thing – it took them a while ( which would seem a long time to some one say in their early twenties upon hearing the time frame) and lot of effort. You just have to make it seem effortless and natural. You can short circuit it with the internet.

        A side note. I find what parts of game you apply or use for yourself is up to the individual and dependent upon your looks. What you do and who you target will be different to what other people find successful. Sometimes like night and day.

        It all comes down to the individual – this may not be the answer for you.

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  41. Most of the very good looking guys I know have been betas to some varying degree. Almost all the naturals I know are average looking or have “mean” faces (ie: high T).

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  42. i can attest to this.

    i’m 5’4″, 130 lbs, and have the sex appeal of stomach cancer. yet, i do VERY well with women. i have pics of myself posted on my site to prove just how mediocre my looks are. spot on post. it’s all attitude, confidence and frame.

    interestingly…..i’ve been getting traffic from you site. not complaining, but i wish i knew how that’s happening. but at any rate, thanks Dude.

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  43. Kudos to this article. Revealing another angle to this information complex.

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  44. […] a moronic thing to say. As Heartiste recently explained: “If you break down the game of Naturals, you’ll learn that their maneuvers and tactics and […]

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