The Necessity Of Relationship Game

What ho! Another scientific study ♥♥♥confirming♥♥♥ CH observations about the functioning of female sexuality? You bet!

Women with stable but not-so-sexy mates become more distant, critical during periods of high fertility.

Long after women have chosen Mr. Stable over Mr. Sexy, they struggle unconsciously with the decision, according to a new study by UCLA researchers who look at subtle changes in behavior during ovulation.

At their most fertile period, these women are less likely to feel close to their mates and more likely to find fault with them than women mated to more sexually desirable men, the research shows.

“A woman evaluates her relationship differently at different times in her cycle, and her evaluation seems to be colored by how sexually attractive she perceives her partner to be,” said Martie Haselton, a professor of psychology and communication studies at UCLA and senior author of the study.

Now where have we heard this before? Oh yeah. Here… and here.

Creeping marital betatude isn’t an on/off switch; it’s a viral agent that slowly, but inexorably, sickens your wife until she wants to get as far away from you as possible. Usually into the arms of a man who isn’t infected.

As usual, the Chateau is well ahead of the curve.

I really love these studies validating core game concepts because I know they cause the haters to blow steam out of their puckered sphincters. Haters seem to be under the delusion that science is on their side, so the bubble bursting is even more delicious.

If you aren’t tracking your wife’s ovulation cycle, and you’re a constitutional beta male who strongly suspects you won her over with your promises of stability and resources and her looming wall as your ally in love, you should act now. Because when that egg’s a-layin’, those players you despise are gonna have the key to her heart. And no amount of beta puling will pull her back from the brink. In fact, it will make it worse.

The good news, if you can call it that, should be a relief to cuckold fetishists everywhere.

Nevertheless, the negative feelings appear fleeting, and they don’t seem to affect a woman’s long-term commitment to her romantic relationship, the study found.

If your ego can emotionally weather the morbid sight of your wife swooning for guys with smooth moves, and perhaps cheating on you one week every month, your marriage should be good to go. Naturally, most men can’t tolerate that, so game becomes of paramount importance for keeping their wives or girlfriends maximally attracted to them, and not other men. I.e., to keep them in line. Because much of game is, in essence, learned charisma of the high status alpha male, your beloved boo can be… how shall we say?… massaged, or imperceptibly guided, to avert her focus from other men back onto you, during those times when she is most susceptible to the allure of competitor cock.

Through a series of high-profile studies, Haselton’s lab has revealed telling changes that take place in women’s behavior during ovulation. Possibly to increase the odds of attracting suitable mating partners, these behaviors include a tendency to dress up and to speak in a higher-pitched, more feminine voice and — in a potential inbreeding-avoidance mechanism — to refrain from contact with male kin. In addition, the lab has found that women whose mates are less sexy and masculine tend to be more attracted to other men during the few fertile days leading up to ovulation.

The more beta you are, the more you need game just to tread water with the woman you love. A woman who is shackled to a beta male is going to feel more powerful urges to copulate with an alpha male when she’s biologically able to conceive. It’s as if her body knows, somehow, that the man who provides for her and supports her and bores her to death is worthy of genetic obliteration. Aren’t women sublime creatures?

The researchers, who used a questionnaire designed exclusively for the study, found no significant change across the cycle in how the women perceived their level of commitment to the relationship or, at least initially, in their satisfaction with it.

What this means is that women unknowingly lie to themselves, and effectively at that. A woman’s evolutionary programming has ensured that she is shielded from conscious, spontaneous knowledge of the functioning of the worst of her biomachinery, such as her id-driven desire to be impregnated via infidelity with an interloper alpha male. An ovulating woman who has, seemingly inexplicably, begun nagging her beta husband or boyfriend, is not going to like to be confronted with the real reason why she turned into a raving bitch. If you were to ask this woman about her level of relationship commitment, of course she will answer that all is well, because to admit otherwise is to upend and potentially sabotage the ancient female sexual directive to amass both alpha fucks and beta bucks. And her genes would not like that at all. AT ALL.

But an exercise that required the women to rate how close they felt to their men yielded dramatic results. As women mated to less sexually attractive men moved from their least fertile to most fertile period, their closeness scores dropped one point on a seven-point scale. Women mated to the most sexually attractive men, meanwhile, experienced the opposite effect. As these women moved from their least to most fertile period, their closeness scores rose by a point.

If you are already an alpha male — either by fortune of inheritance or by grind of self-correction — then your girlfriend or wife will fall MORE in love with you when she is ovulating. She will go from pleasantly in love to lustfully in love. Yet more proof that there is no end to the ways in which being alpha is better than being beta.

The questionnaire asked the women to rate how characteristic such faults as being moody, childish, emotional, thoughtless and critical were of their mate.

The researchers found that women mated to the less sexually attractive men were significantly more likely to find fault with their partners and, again, feel less close to their partners during the high-fertility period than the low-fertility period. Women who rated their mates as more sexually attractive, meanwhile, did not exhibit these changes and instead reported being more satisfied with their relationship at high fertility than at low fertility.

When a man’s woman is being bitchy, the problem is him, but not in the way most men would think. Most men will promptly resort to DEFCUNT Level 1 Beta Supplication Mode to appease their harridans, thinking, wrongly, that their women are bitchy because they haven’t gotten enough signs of commitment and support from their partners. And who could blame these men for thinking this? When nagging, inconsolable women lob heat-of-the-moment accusations at their men, the accusations usually take the form of scattershot wails about one-size-fits-all conventional relationship issues that come straight from therapists’ hackneyed textbooks.

“You don’t care about me.” “You never listen.” “You don’t support this marriage like I do.” “You forgot to go food shopping AGAIN. How many times do I have to remind you?!”

So these beta men, quite reasonably, care harder, listen longer, support stronger, and buy enough groceries to fill a fat housewife’s appetizer plate. He reasons, “This is what she claims she wants, so this is what I’ll give her. And that should make her be nice to me like she was last week.”

In the meantime, the alpha male is now on his fifth year of forgetting to go food shopping, and his lover hasn’t bitched once about it.

If the beta male only knew what worlds of unburdened joy lie just beyond his reach…

The truth in these matters is just the opposite of the conclusions that the beta male’s reasoning takes him: what their nagging, maximally fertile women want is not more beta, but LESS BETA. They want the alpha male who dismisses their nags with a wave of the hand, a cocky attitude, and a vigorous entitlement to belittling sexual conquest. And they want this DESPITE what they claim to say they want. The man who understands this paradox about women is the man who succeeds with them by measures of success that transcend traditionalist bromides.

The researchers believe the findings shed light on a suite of conflicting behaviors that stem from mating strategies that might have provided an evolutionary benefit to women’s female ancestors of long ago but today probably serve no other purpose than to stir the domestic pot.

The form may change, but the urge remains the same.

She calls the urge for a stable long-term partner along with the increased desire for a more sexually attractive mate during periods of high fertility the “dual mating hypothesis.”

Haselton and Larson next plan to look at whether fault-finding and the feelings of distance and dissatisfaction have any long-term destabilizing effects on the relationships of women with less sexually attractive men.

Science proves that game can help strengthen a monogamous marriage. It’s not just for banging a lot of club sluts anymore.

They also plan to look into how, if at all, the behavior is perceived by the male partners of these women.

“We don’t know if men are picking up on this behavior, but if they are, it must be confusing for them,” Larson said.

Ya think? Thank the lord of illuminating truth that storehouses of real-life acquired knowledge like this digital retreat exist for men. The reign of confusion about women’s nature is beginning to close, and a new chapter in the history of love and romance is being written. This message will be uglier to some, more beautiful to others, dangerous to a few. But one thing it will be for all: a path out of the darkness.





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  1. “A woman is the only thing I am afraid of that I know will not hurt me.”
    -Abe Lincoln

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    • He was a faggot, too.

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      • Lincoln was not only a faggot, he was a brain-damaged one, not to mention a mass murderer who started the worst war the U.S. has ever been involved in.

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      • Lincoln was not gay; nor did he start the Civil War. That was South Carolina, firing on Fort Sumter.

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      • Lincoln might as well have been gay. Mary Todd was well educated, had a history of mood swings, fierce temper, public outbursts, spending too much money, and may of had bi-polar disorder. In other words…a feminist.

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      • Or lincoln was too beta to tame her… especially under that era’s laws.

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      • Lincoln’s first love, who he was engaged to, died of some fever, and he was heartbroken. His friends, who were considerable, he was quite popular, thought he might commit suicide. Lincoln like Mary Todd. Had affection for her. Love? Most of his biographers are hard-pressed to say yes.

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      • Lincoln was a brain-damaged homosexual who was kicked in face by a horse as an 11-year-old and suffered permanent brain damage, resulting in chronic depression and a deformed face. He slept for years with Joshua Speed. As for Fort Sumter, the only thing killed was a mule. And it wasn’t the Civil War (you don’t know what a Civil War is). By the way, wars tend to be started by the deformed — Hitler, one testicle, Stalin, pocked face, shriveled arm, webbed toes.

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      • Lincoln was not only a faggot, he had sylphilis and was brain-damaged by being kicked in the face by a horse. It was responsible for his chronic depression and his deformed face. As for Fort Sumpter, the only thing killed was a mule. That certainly justifies a war in which more Americans were killed than all our other wars combined. Today, the number killed would over five million. That puts Lincoln puts the same league as any fascist mass murderer.

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      • Lincoln maneuvered for Fort Sumter to happen in such a way that the south would have to fire a first shot, hence outwardly the south would be seen to have started the war.

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      • My family of origen had the War of Southern Independence as almost a family business/ It was stupiity/ squared. Trust me.
        J. Benjamin was a British Imperialist. Look him up/.

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      • just call him a nigger and be done with it.

        sheesh…

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      • on November 1, 2012 at 12:17 pm Obstinance Works

        He wanted to colonize them in Libera. So not quite, but almost.

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      • OK, but still, the only thing worse than a nigger is a nigger lover.

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      • on November 5, 2012 at 2:50 pm Obstinance Works

        A nigger is an ignorant person.

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      • “… Lincoln was not only a faggot, he was a brain-damaged one, not to mention a mass murderer who started the worst war the U.S. has ever been involved in….”

        not one of those things is even remotely close to the very well documented truth.

        You have been seriously brainwashed and/or are utterly ignorant.

        or maybe you are a liberal ?…

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      • You’re obviously Canadian if you read that and thought the commenter was “liberal.”

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      • Well… even though Lincoln was a Republican, because he defeated the south – which is more conservative than liberal – I know some republicans from the south despise Lincoln

        so yes it is possible our angry Lincoln hater is a Republican.

        But having said that, it is almost exclusively liberals who claim everyone was gay from Lincoln to General Patton.

        Don’t be fooled by the fact I am a Canadian, I know more about US politics and history than the average American.

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      • He was indeed a faggot. Even Carl Sandberg mention it in passing as “shades of lavender”. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexuality_of_Abraham_Lincoln

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      • on November 1, 2012 at 12:18 pm Obstinance Works

        Carl Sandberg is perhaps the only liberal I could have respected. The People, YES.

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  4. The alpha fucks and beta bucks thing really is hard wired into their brains. Get the best genetic material you can, then get someone else to pay for it. With a legal system that will force a man to pay child support to raise a child that is genetically not his (and make no fucking mistake because it has and it will continue to), why anyone would sign the dotted line on marriage is just beyond me.

    The greatest lie ever pulled off in history was women getting men to believe in their moral superiority.

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    • on October 31, 2012 at 2:32 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      cuckold dose who pay for our bread
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      • on October 31, 2012 at 3:13 pm Holden Caulfield

        Maybe CH can use some of the money donated by loyal readers to purchase shirts designed by GBFM to be sent to winners of the beta of the month (or at least beta of the year) contests. Maybe wearing it will make the alpha fucks/beta bucks lessons sink in. . ,

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      • on October 31, 2012 at 3:25 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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        lzozllzozozozoz

        “da professional womenz ode”

        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        dat is how we roll
        da butthexting cockass we fucks and sucks
        and in our anuthes it doth deosul
        alpha fucks and beta bucks
        it is da way of da fed
        to transfer assetss to dose who butthext
        cuckold dose who pay for our bread
        beta bucks and alpha fucks
        it’s what day teach us we;’re entitled too
        da assetts from betas we plucks
        after da alphas desol us through our hole for poo
        lzozozlzzolzlzlzlz
        cuckold da betas cockhold da alphas
        datsz what day taught us in mba grad school
        as da feiisnsits see no truth nor justice in their laws
        and say da great books for menz was all fools.
        yes, yes, i did very good on my gmats
        dey bernenakifed my soul away, left me with cats”

        lzozozoz

        http://cafepress.com/greatbooksformen

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      • Sorry if I’m missing something, but since nobody else seems to ever complain… WHAT THE FUCK is wrong with Great Books for Men, and all of his total fucking bullshit posts? Why aren’t they deleted? Not a single word makes a damn bit of sense. Just what the FUCK is “lzlzozozozzoz”?

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      • on November 23, 2012 at 1:36 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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  5. A question I’ve been pondering recently: Could some more beta family-oriented men also not have dual imperatives? Many men are not natural players but aren’t exactly brow beaten cuckolds either. Beta at home with the wife and alpha with the the mistress?

    [heartiste: short answer: yes.]

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    • Beta with ONE woman means beta to ALL women.

      Mistresses of beta’s are willing to put out for beta bucks and while getting alpha fucks on the side.

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      • Uh, no.

        Most people, men and women, adjust their behaviour to the situation they’re in. For example, the way a man behaves at a wedding is much different than the way he behaves at his job.

        It is very possible that the way a man treats his wife is MUCH different than how he treats his mistress or any other woman he meets. It could be for game reasons, or it could be because he has to live with the wife and doesn’t much care about the mistress.

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    • Most naturals are like that. Even world class, a-list, alphas. Cue multiple marriages and divorces amongst the Hollywood set. Didn’t someone here post anecdotes about how even Blueeyes himself fell victim to betatude once in relationships; contrasting him with Dean Martin?

      Very few people are born, or in the West raised, with the innate idea that the ideal way to treat your children’s mother is to be as much of an asshole as you can possibly be. Aside from pure psychopaths, that is a mode of behavior even naturals need to learn.

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      • This is the part I’ve never understood about game: it posits assholes who are wildly successful, and then betas who are cringing doormats. I don’t like the alpha worldview, and I don’t treat women like shit. I think the beta paradigm (minus the puling cringitude) is a *good* thing that gets us OFF the evolutionary hamstermill. But I don’t put up with any shit either, and my response to shit tests is not to roll over, but to put that shit right in its utterly inappropriate place. (a legitimate gripe/nag delivered appropriately is okay: I leave my socks all over-but-neatly-folded, b/c that’s just how I roll. I have no issues with being asked to clean them up, b/c see also: wiping your own ass, relationship with adulthood).

        So I’m not an alpha b/c holy fuck, when do they grow up and see anybody but themselves? But I therefore am also not a beta, because I actually have a spine and enough balls to stand up for myself? Something’s just off here.

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      • Just because it doesn’t fit your worldview doesn’t mean that women aren’t more attracted to assholes than they are to nice guys.

        Stop thinking about what’s supposed to be “good” or “right”. Open your eyes and observe reality.

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      • I have zero problems with the hypergamy, though in retrospect I can see from the comment how you could get that. Female attraction to jerks is legendary, as the Reverend Hicks and many others have said. I just don’t get this binary division of the world between jerks and doormats. It doesn’t fit with my experience at all.

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      • We’re all a mix of alpha and beta qualities. Though most of us would err to one side or the other. No one is 100% alpha or beta. Much of what this blog teaches , or at least what I draw from it; tis always better to err on the side of alpha.

        It comes down to simple choices really.

        Would you rather spend the evening painting her toenails while watching a movie that stars Hugh Grant ?

        Or have a six hour jackhammering fuckfest that ends with her rubbing your back till you fall asleep ?

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      • Or to put another way…from where women stand.

        Do they want to lead a man…or have a man lead them?

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      • Simon Corso: yeah. Maybe I’m just a weirdo, then, because frankly, while I’m not exactly what you’d call a monastic type, neither one of those choices appeals to me in the slightest.

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      • Maddona whore complex for men is jerk ljbf/doormat. People tend to over simplify everything.

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      • “Stop thinking about what’s supposed to be “good” or “right”. Open your eyes and observe reality.”

        Outstanding advice re: women AND business. The world does not at all work like society teaches you.

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      • As others have said, the conversation frequently simplifies to alpha=good, beta=bad because most men coming here for advice are so thoroughly beta’d that they NEED alpha. People are, of course, more complex than that, but it’s simply not very effective or sensible to list every possible exception or to asterisk every piece of advice with “your results may vary, use judgement.”

        There’s also the fact that, when people make major changes to themselves, the tendency is to go overboard to establish the initial habit, then back off to an appropriate level (what works for them).

        Heartiste in particular is very, uh, dramatic ^-^ and I wonder if he occasionally overstates because that’s simply his style. At the same time, I don’t think he’s wrong to do so, but maybe some of his overstatements are things that could be done successfully, but not with utmost frequency…

        Certainly, in an adult relationship, you AND the woman must be responsible for yourselves, and, assuming you’re not just doing pump-n-dump or harems and are instead interested in a RELATIONSHIP (which, by your post, I assume is somewhat the case), there’s something to be said for not ALWAYS being a dick…. But, there’s a world of difference between “yes, dear, I’ll take care of that right away, dear,” and “Oh, that? Yeah, I’ll take care of that in a bit/after this/in my own time.” One is supplicating and one is recognizing that you are not at your partner’s beck and call, but you are willing to accommodate. There is then, of course, the whole-hog-alpha approach where you tell’em to take care of it themselves (or something) – I expect at that point it comes down to what you are trying to achieve, and how much alpha you’ve already exhibited (whether you need to DHV or you need to mix in some relation/comfort (i.e. beta) qualities to balance out). If you’re spinning plates, fuck it. If you’re looking for something more intimate, balance it.

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    • I have found a good balance between alpha and beta – I shag her rotten, hold her, then shag her rotten again. I’m lucky in that I’m tall and good looking, so I do utilise (indeed I have to) vulnerability/beta game. All other times I’m a complete prick.

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      • How long have you been with her? Been with mine for a year and unless we’ve been apart for a while I find it hard to muster the interest. She’s sexy too, but after a year it’s like watching the same movie over and over. I really don’t know how people in LTRs do it.

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      • on October 31, 2012 at 7:10 pm driveallnight

        The gf picked a nonsensical fight with me a few weeks back. So I finished off the make-up sex with a facial, which her hamsterfriends say is “degrading.”

        Every time I remind her of it she laughs, punches me, calls me a jerk…..and climbs into my lap.

        Degrading indeed.

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      • I think what happycrow is saying is that the whole Alpha-Beta thing is a little too simplistic and black-and-white. Which it is, of course. The world isn’t quite that simple. If you watch certain WW II documentaries or movies, you might come to believe there are only Nazis and Jews in the world – same thing. I’m pretty much in agreement with the groups listed in the Alpha Game blog – Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, etc. And they apply to women, too, if somewhat differently.

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    • on November 1, 2012 at 12:21 pm Obstinance Works

      You just described the Victorian Period male.

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  6. The study states that college girls rated their partner’s stability and attractiveness. Then it says girls with “stable” partners feel more distant during ovulation, but girls with “attractive” partners feel more closer.

    It’s unclear, but is the study equating “stability” with “unattractiveness”? Are they mutually exclusive or not?

    If not, are “attractive & stable” men less attractive than “attractive & unstable” men?

    Regardless, a man would be wise to fuck the living shit out of his partner when she’s bitchy and when she’s extra nice.

    Also, bitchiness is her way of saying, “Please fuck other chicks”, and extra niceness means, “Please don’t fuck other chicks”. Ignore the latter.

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  7. ‘The reign of confusion about women’s nature is beginning to close, and a new chapter in the history of love and romance is being written. This message will be uglier to some, more beautiful to others, dangerous to a few. But one thing it will be for all: a path out of the darkness.’

    Not all. It will either get worse (a larger discrepancy between betas and fewer alphas … great news for the alphas), or a new equilibrium point will be reached – kind of like when Speed Seduction and NLP and all those goofy ‘techniques’ were making the rounds: it worked for a while, but then women picked up on its apparent cheesiness. The shit testing will continue and only become more challenging as the hamster puts in overtime to come up with new ways to separate the wheat from the chaff.

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    • Yeah man. Sometimes I wonder how it’s going to pan out 10 years from now.

      We hear about the falling marriage rates.
      We hear of the frustrated or bitter divorced betas who followed mommy’s advice.
      We hear about the 30+ women who can’t find good men.
      We hear about the 25+ women who can’t get the men to committ.

      It’s really interesting seeing the cause and effect of it all. I have no idea how it will play out, any guess is good as mine.

      The time to cross the rubicon into alpha territory is now no doubt.
      I think more emphasis will be put on screening out men for looks and making snapshot judgements on their alpha qualities from the get-go.

      Better tighten up the body language and appearance.
      Better tighten up the frame so negativity doesn’t seep from your pores.
      Better lift and give off that “alpha” vibe so to speak.
      Better know some social ju-jitsu to make it seem like you are the charismatic leader right from the start.
      Better lean some good shit-testing diffusers as you will get hit with them from the start.

      I’m really interested to see how it will pan out. I think it will be more of the same.

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      • It’s panning out thus: A good majority of the women in my age group (40) who came of age during the late 60’s and 70’s women’s lib movement, are now spinsters. It is an epidemic. There are so many women in their late 30’s and 40’s now who have never been married. These women are my prey.

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      • The 30+’s can’t find ‘good men’ because the 22-year old 6’5 Brad Pitt clone with the private jet they want isn’t hitting on them. The 25+’s can’t get men to ‘commit’ ’cause they’re all Single Moms(TM) and no halfway normal guy wants anything to do with that shit.

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      • This is SO true. Most women have no problem finding a decent, stable man to commit. The women I know over 30 who “can’t find a good man” are ALL, to a single woman, carrying some weirdly hyper-inflated expectations about what a “good” man is. They all want the 6’4″ movie star billionaire from 50 Shades of Grey, as though he’d really be looking for a 34-year-old desk jockey with three cats and 10 excess kilos.

        Men, on the other hand, don’t seem to have these delusions. Most men I know would be happy with the loyalty of a cute 6.5-7 who didn’t cheat or bitch at him constantly. The men over 30 who are still single are usually so by choice, not because they’re still waiting for Jessica Alba to show up and drop to her knees.

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      • Or because these men were married before, and have realized that the tax breaks that gives them aren’t worth the trouble it also gives them, so Single is the way to go.
        Besides, no one wants’em, anyway. Aside from 55+’s who have very grudgingly come to the bitter (oh, so bitter) conclusion that Brad Pitt (see above description) would rather have some 21-year old hardbodies.
        And who wants 55+ ?

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      • I agree , a lot of men would be happy with a 6.5 – 7 if she is not bitchy (and horny).

        while a lot of women have unrealistic expectations.

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      • Or the 25-30+ women can’t find good men because they ruined themselves on the cock carousal. No good man wants that either.

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      • And all those single moms that have a hard time understanding it is unnatural for a man to take care of another male’s offspring.

        Most men I know who use dating sites, simply never contact women who have kids

        Male lions simply kill the other male’s offspring, so my dear ladies, consider yourselves lucky!

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      • Online dating sites = fake profiles, fatsos and Single Moms(TM). Which is why I only use them for forum entertainment.

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      • For every Single Mom there’s a single dad lol. I think the stated preferences are just as bs as men all want supermodels bs. People just have a hard time finding someone for statistical reasons of there literally more people and more variety of people and acceptable preferences.

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      • Nope, for every 100 single moms, there are 30-40 cads and dads.
        The remaining 60-70 betas will have to pay.

        Enjoy the ride while it lasts, cunt.

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      • Aside from the namecalling, Anon is correct.

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      • Aside from the namecalling, Anon is correct.

        A sound cake requires the appropriate icing.

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      • on November 1, 2012 at 12:23 pm Obstinance Works

        Look at how men are voting now in very large numbers against Obama and his feminist agenda. Look also how Romney viewed single women especially earlier in his career where he told single women to give their kids up to adoption. Romney also dealt with the issue in his book.

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  8. on October 31, 2012 at 3:00 pm The Man of Mystery

    When I found this article I HAD to send it to you. It was by far the most blatantly obvious example of “Science validates Game” in a secondary research article that I’ve ever seen. You know what’s even better, Heartiste? The study was conducted by two women. They also appear to be, from their picture, pretty happy and cool chicks. I bet they’re decent to have a discussion with about core game concepts and the like.

    What say you, CH roundtable w/ the two UCLA researchers?

    [heartiste: i’m all about a round on the table.]

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    • on October 31, 2012 at 3:50 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      Hey Man of Mystery!!! You missppeleld some words in your post,so i helped u out as i often do asnd fixed your spellingz and grammarz!! you’re welcomez!!!

      corrected version: “When I found this article I HAD to send it to you. It was by far the most blatantly obvious example of “Science validates Game” in a secondary research article that I’ve ever seen. You know what’s even better, Heartiste? The study was conducted by two women. They also appear to be, from their picture, pretty happy and cool chicks, as they are funded by the beta taxpayer to conduct “Scientific” research that is common sense realized by the ancients who came up with relgion so as to civilize women whose nature dissolves civilization via their yearningz for alhpa fucks in the bunghole and beta bucks to feed their mouthhole lzozozo. I bet they’re decent to have a threesome with about core butthextual and oral and ginal concepts and the like.”

      dr now dat reads much betterz no?

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  9. Beta at home with the wife and alpha with the the mistress?

    The fact that the second should be much more attractive than the first helps a lot in motivating men

    [heartiste: precisely.]

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      • on October 31, 2012 at 9:59 pm Holden Caulfield

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  10. So nagging = shit testing

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  11. listen to what she says about the husbands doctor. This is how I like them ,good looking and stupid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rRaUSwUNbQpid

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    • Don’t be TOO sure, I can’t remember where, but I read recently children get their smarts from their mothers. But I bet she was hot in bed too. No pretense of independence with that one.

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  12. “Science proves that game can help strengthen a monogamous marriage. It’s not just for banging a lot of club sluts anymore.”

    This need to be pounded into the pointy little heads of all those Christian anti-gamers out there.

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  13. It’s one thing to see these studies and grok their essence. It is quite another to receive hyper-hamster phone calls & texts from married women, recently divorced women, women looking to divorce, divorced women with beta boyfriends, all looking to arrange some hot & heavy action when you know they’re ovulating. This occurs regularly for me these days.

    There is *nothing* that educates like real world experience. Let’s get these studies out there, disseminated for mass consumption, AND let’s tell our stories, so that men can know the real nature of whom they’re dealing with in areas of the heart.

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  14. Bad news for beta plugins is generally good news for Alphas with a bit of tactical accumen. If you read the other studies by Dr. Martie Haselton about female ornamentation, vocal pitch, non-verbal IOIs and many other subconscious female ovulation cues a clever Alpha can learn the subtle ‘tells’ so as to determine a woman’s phase in her menstrual cycle – and leverage this knowledge to his Game advantage.

    https://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2012/09/25/your-friend-menstruation/

    A lot gets written about the ‘Mate Guarding’ phenomenon in men when they subconsciously perceive that their women are in the folicular (proliferative) phase of their cycles. However, not a lot has been studied about the type of men who are more prone to mate guard durning this phase. I’d speculate that the more beta / sexually undesirable a man is considered, the more he’s predisposed to mate guarding behaviors – behaviors that are identical to the ones in this post which Heartiste is ascribing to betas who believe that supplicative acts of greater sensitivity and proved dependability will make them more attractive to their LTR.

    Long story short, Betas mate guard, whereas Alphas have no reason or motivation to due to the intensified sexual interest their women apply to them during their phase of optimal fertility.

    Makes sense?

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  15. DEFCUNT Level 1 lolzz

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  16. I have seen this behavior first hand and COMPLETELY agree. When this girl I’m dating is ovulating she definitely is more rude and aggressive with me. The looks mis-match is closer than it’s ever been so I see her eye wander hard during the days she’s ovulating.

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    • Darkktrader, if this is happening to you, get your butt into a gym and buy Rooshv’s Bang book. Aka, up your looks and up your game.

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      • My looks can’t get much higher AnonH. I work out regularly (have a 6 pack) and have always been a natural at game. This girl is simply way out of my league looks wise. She been described as a solid 10 by numerous people.
        The best is that I met her on a bad night where she was vulnerable due to ex boy friend massive fight, gamed her that night and hooked up. Then, 2 months of serious text game got her to chase me. So I’ve been gaming her hard since day one.

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  18. on October 31, 2012 at 4:22 pm RappaccinisDaughter

    Odd. It hasn’t been that way for me. And yes, I have been paying attention.

    I got put on the Pill for medical reasons when I was very young, and only went off it last year after I had myself sterilized. As I’m sure most of you know, the Pill works by tricking your body into thinking it’s already pregnant, so you don’t ovulate. The sterilization procedure I underwent leaves all of the organs in place; it simply severs the connections. So now, for the first time in years, I’m ovulating. What’s more, I can tell when it happens–I’m one of the “lucky” ones who gets mittelschmerz. It’s quite painful, and completely unmistakable.

    I have a friend who is very into evo psych, and he asked me for feedback on what, if anything, had changed for me. The answer? Not much. My attraction patterns don’t seem to change at all, regardless of the time of the month. The only thing I’ve noticed is that for a couple of days after it happens, men do seem to be more interested in me. Like, a *lot* more interested.

    Not calling bullshit on the study, by the way. I’m just saying that there may be other exceptions beside me.

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    • That should probably read:”Men I AM ATTRACTED TO seem to be more intersted in me.” Chances that you even notice the others: not good.

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      • I think she notices. It’s just some men show more overt signs of attraction just like woman, it may or may not seem like they have a different level of interest but it could just be how they express it. Even if it is just the ones she’s attracted too it’s still useful information. She’s saying men are attracted but she literally doesn’t feel more or differing then her normal attraction back which is in alignment with the study to some degree . Mittelschmerz might make her more aware of what’s going on by the way because she can tell the exact days.

        This study is very flawed. Just look at the list of preconceived words to describe behavior. It was also a questionnaire which is generally considered less then accurate way of measuring most things. They went looking for proof of a perceived conclusion and that’s not good science.

        Although the study basic point is woman are perhaps slightly attracted to other dudes while in a relationship with an ugly but they still don’t feel like acting on it because they use their brain instead of their vagina and value relationships more then random fucks even to relationships with “ugly” men. This should show men what MOST woman actually value is a relationship and that’s what most of them have to offer. If it’s all about sex and being sexy most men in particular are simply going to lose out.

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      • My experiance is also that women really value the relationships they’re in, but also, i think what CH is talking about here, is that if there is the man alpha enough, and the time is right she’ ll fall for him, regardless of conditions.
        In other words she won’t be actively triing to cheat on her beta boyfriend/husband, but if pressed, and under right circumstances she’ll fall, the relationship will not present any real obsticle.

        Also not talking of all of women, some almost jump on me, but at one point just balk off and stop talking, seems she just remebered of a beta boyfriend of her’s… Others avoid my looks in the eyes, some on the other hand accept my advances, at point but at next contact get you cold welcome. Still if i could push it at times she wasn’t cold to me i think ther’s fair chance she would have cheated on her BF.

        Before, when i saw the world and girls the way classical beta does, most of the girls would have been classified outright as slut garbage, it just that they didn’t flirted with me, so i wasn’t even able to notice it, but now, when they do – despite their relationships, i don’t think that of them because i’m aware how horribille it is to a girl to be with a beta(like i’m with a 5!!), being strongly attracted to badboys, and struggle all the time to remain with a beta(a 5 or 6!!), and i can see many of them struggling to follow the reason instead of urges, that can overwhelm them so easily. In place where i am many are fighting a good fight. Still though more beautifull she is, sluttier, and careless she is, which confirms a lot of things repeated constantly on this blog.

        So much from me, sorry for bad english.

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  19. “If you aren’t tracking your wife’s ovulation cycle”

    The Catholic church has a program that goes over that. Mostly it’s so you don’t use artificial birth control…but who knew it could put the kibosh for other things.

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  20. That this research was brought forward by 2 females is revealing in itself, imho. They say out-loud that women naturally do not want stable provider types of men to fuck them when they Really Want it and then go on as if nothing very important was being discussed. It is like them saying, “We women want one sort of guy for sex and quite a different sort with which to build a nest.” Then, “Where do you want to eat”? “Does this hat make me look fat”?
    The notion that such a revelation is a nuclear tipped torpedo aimed below the waterline at monagamous marriage, at least as understood in the West, seems not to have occurred to them.
    Most likely because it cannot occur to them. Certain logic paths being barred by a sword wielding Angel.

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    • I don’t know why you think women are attached to monogamous marriage. The feminist “movement” has been smashing at the foundations of marriage with a sledgehammer for fifty years now.

      What women want — and what the most feminist liberal chicks are getting — is “polyamory.” That means a poor schlub beta male with a good job, and a handsome cockmeister. The poor beta thinks he’s going to get some tail on the side, but he won’t, and the cockmeister already would be getting some anyway.

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      • The idea of monogamy is defended — as all abstract ideas are — most vehemently by men. The only women who care much for principles are high-T girls.

        Top 5 post for us married guys, Heartiste.

        [heartiste: thanks! btw, there is some historical evidence that monogamy was pushed just as vehemently by high status married women who feared competition for their high status husbands by younger, tighter, hotter babes.]

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      • No that’s bullshit! Woman want awesome all in one faithful dude. Why would we want a schlub if we could have it all in one dude? That’s the dream but it’s sort of like male virgins mastrabating to Nutz or something.lol Eventually most people live in reality and find someone acceptable or give up.

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  21. There is but one solution to all this….

    Rape!

    That is all. Now to put on my clown mask and molest some 18 year olds who’ve had too much alcohol and are wearing skank outfits.

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  22. on October 31, 2012 at 5:27 pm happyhalloweendudes

    This article Heartiste is dead-on, I’ve astutely observed everything in it. Keep it up.

    A little long, but thought I’d share, as Game continues to blow me away; the foundational insight is all you really need. My apologies for sp & grammar I’m not entirely aware right now, but the following is all true.

    I’ve noticed something strange since understanding Game. In one night (a week and a half ago I think) I had 3 girls go out of their way to come to my room, get on my bed, or overtly hit on me, only for me to reject them, telling them to go back to their boyfriends and not be such slut’s. One walked outside to see me, sat next to me, said she had an urge to make out with me right then and there, [I hadn’t said a word, just silently stared at her like a stoic pondering how dumb this slut was in front of me]. Her friends looked at her and I, gave her this, get out of here, stay away from him, he’s dangerous sort of look. She said aloud, in response to their cues, “I’m gonna stay here with him,”.

    I just smirked. I took a sip of whatever I was drinking. Said, I’m going back to my room, follow if you want.

    She laid on the bed and was posturing to get me to pounce her. This was number 2 I was rejecting that night. She was probably a 7 or 8 by most guys standards, maybe even a 9 ’cause she was clearly from a different country.

    Within minutes I could tell she knew she was putting herself in a compromising position. I hardly had to speak before she revealed too much info about how her boyfriend was literally a floor below us. I don’t condone cheating – though I can’t say I’m a saint -, plus I had another girl lined up, and I had just met the Nubian princess 5 minutes prior (literally – first time I saw her was when she walked up to say she had an urge to make out with me; found out later she’d seen me around & heard me banging girls above her in our complex). Anyway, I politely gave her, as well as the others advice – don’t be so easy, you’ll regret it when it matter’s later in life. They left like punished dogs with tails between their legs – who was I to reject them!? AND tell them what to do? They did as I said, however. Because I was unwavering in my attitude and conviction.

    They’d thank me later. I waited for the fourth one, who I was actually attracted to, to come over and bang.

    With her, as with all the rest recently, I speak as little as possible, and either command them or smirk at their ridiculous behaviors. It drives them wild. If I’m really attracted to them, I just move forward always, and have found that results in ne’er a rejection. Can’t be rejected if it’s not possible to be. That doesn’t mean I whip out my cock and rape women. If she says no to even a slight advance, I reframe and move forward, and she usually ends up making the move anyway.

    My favorite line I’ve used as of late: “Why are you wearing your pants still? You’re a virgin, huh?”

    That gets them every time. They have to prove something to me.

    So with the fourth chick that came over that night, the only one I actually anticipated & told “Come over, door’s unlocked.”, this is what happened:

    We fucked around, fucked, etc…until it got to the point where I was face-fucking her, like hardcore porn style. Throat juice all over the bed, gagging, I felt like I was in this French porno I saw once.

    After a long bout of that, after I came in her gargling throat being held down by my hands gripping her hair guiding her and such, she got up, extremely confused. She walked to the door, then walked back to the bed, then got up again and sat down in a corner looking like she’d just seen war. Mascara or eyeliner or whatever leaking down her cheeks, hair disheveled, body contorted…

    She started crying. She couldn’t believe what had just happened. She was perturbed by the hardcore nature of what we had done, and how far she went, or let herself go. It was really quite the 50 Shade’s of Holy Shit this bitch is under my spell moment. She was bawling covering herself in a dirty towel that had cum on it from previous bangs. She said something about how wrong it all was. And kept bawling louder. I laughed. I seriously, legit laughed at her. Told her, at least I came. She stopped crying. Looked at me. And started laughing. She crawled back in bed, we fell asleep, and fucked in the morning.

    Before Game, I would’ve tried to make her feel better or tried to make her stop crying and she probably would’ve never come back again. She left me a gift bag with a type-written poem, lipstick kisses all over it and my name written in lipstick, and a present for me the next day. Meaning she went out of her way to make that, put it on my door, seemingly so others could see her doing it, and waited for me to find it. As well as leaving me a good morning note (as I went back to sleep after we banged in the morning).

    She came over the next night with a bottle of wine for me.

    This is what Game does for you. Or, for me, somehow, when I’m in the mode. Zone, whatever you want to call it.

    One thing I can’t bring myself to do, however, is go out of my way to find women to sleep with. Like actively “Sarge”, it seems futile to me. I simply can’t “game” women that way. They have to pursue me.

    If I meet some I like, I immediately pursue in subtle ways like simply establishing I don’t want to be her friend, number close, have them follow my lead with brief text interactions, and then dump them before it’s too late by simply cutting contact. I also always make sure they pay for my stuff, buy me things, give me rides, cook me meals, give me cigarettes, alcohol, weed, etc…They have to basically pay for me. This doesn’t mean I don’t genuinely like some of them. One of them I like a lot, however circumstance and timing is against me right now, and it seems I will simply have to bang her soon and let her find a “decent” guy after I’m done cause I think she’s too fragile and naiive tbh.

    That’s my only qualm with Game and the modern woman. Is it works. And it makes me almost afraid to be in a real relationship again. And that means what past relationships I thought had meaning, I now see every nuance and detail in them that point toward me probably having been the idiot that these girls boyfriends have been in relation to me at this point in time. In other words, for every girl that’s cheated on her boyfriend with me, I’ve probably been cheated on twice as many times. I’d like to think it’s not true, or that it wasn’t as gnarly as the shit I’ve been up to as of late, or that I was the first to cheat in the ltr’s, but I’ll never know, because I seriously can’t believe a single word a woman between the age of 0 – 100 says anymore. The only thing I can be sure of is what I say, and what I mean. How others interpret it or take it is on them. That’s why I now believe a certain stoicism with women is, for guys like me, the best way to game them.

    And I should add, I am extremely cautious about “consent”, and I don’t know how to explain, but all of you between the age of 18 & 30 should be aware of what that actually means to a girl – don’t be beta about shit & anything is consensual. And don’t go around telling anybody & everybody who you are sleeping with. Let the women do the talking. It should be obvious anyway who’s fucking who once you understand Game, or just women in general. There’s my confession for the month.

    Moderator: if any info in here is too specific then please delete it, in case you think someone may be able to be identified in this, don’t wanna tarnish any reputations, thanks.

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    • happyhalloweendudes is the future (right down to his gravatar giving the world the middle finger), and everyone should adjust accordingly.

      He and his conquests are raw nature fully exposed to itself — unmediated hypergamy against unmediated manliness. Who wins?

      Who always wins?

      This is not a “game” or a “hobby” or a lol pastime lol. This is guerrilla war. And the testimony above is from a special-ops equivalent in a forward position.

      You don’t have to face-fuck her into submission and make her cry for her sins like the unrepentant slut she is, but it helps. You don’t have to full-on rape a woman to give her a glimpse at the darkness. She doesn’t have to be a girlfriend or a wife or a conquest or a date. She can be your “boss” who hasn’t gotten a hint of manhood her entire life. You can give every woman you meet a stark example of manliness in their world of bitches and betas. It can be a glance. It can be a smirk. Above all, it is a presence and a way of life.

      This is where you feather-boa gadflies mistake our seriousness as stodginess. You only know how to manipulate surfaces. The girl who got skull-fucked will never forget that night. He took a part of her soul and altered her forever. You can transform these defenseless women frivolously or unintentionally or selfishly. Or you can do it deliberately.

      Either way, berserkers like our friend above have their uses. The institutionalized slut must be reduced to rubble before our daughters can become equal again to the hypergamic temptation. I admire his savage nobility, even though there is a better way. All of you untutored nihilists will see yourself in his willfulness, but in truth he is the most moral man among you. When the sluts cross his path, intentionally or not, he corrects them through pain — whereas most run-of-the-mill factory PUA’s just diddle and flake and skip merrily to the next easy slag.

      I hadn’t said a word, just silently stared at her like a stoic pondering how dumb this slut was in front of me. … One thing I can’t bring myself to do, however, is go out of my way to find women to sleep with. Like actively “Sarge”, it seems futile to me. I simply can’t “game” women that way. They have to pursue me.

      Amen. Preach this. Too few of the wannabe compadres here underestimate this possibility. Game itself is presented as too proactive, too “tryhard.” The overriding goal should be to attain the status of the social magnet, the ineffable presence, the man of je ne sais quois. This is not a practical lesson for basic training, true. But it should be every newbie’s end-goal, rather than “sixty daygame approaches a day” and other such overbearing methods which some here counsel endlessly.

      The beta mindset is too impatient to admit the possibility of passive success, though. He has seen his own, beta-brand passivity lead to invisibility. He cannot distinguish a girl’s indifference to omegas from her deliberate avoidance of alpha. So he thinks he has to try, try again, harder harder next time. PUA activity yielded the first good results of his sexual life, so more activity should lead to more and better results, right? But the results are forced and temporary, even in a world of easy drunk girls raised to be whores. “Quantity leads to quality” is the abiding faith of the 10% club (one conversion for every ten pitches). This can work to rack-up notches, if your self-esteem requires that measuring stick. But it doesn’t put you among the elite. Which is fine, as long as you don’t pretend to be elite.

      The commenter above is elite. He is your better. Emulate him, learn from his attitude and example. Defer and be humble, contrary to your insecure instincts, contrary to PUA-brand teaching. Another hot girl will be along shortly. His wisdom applies to more than pick-up; it applies to the entirety of male-female interaction, from great-grandmother to supermodel starlet down to fat unibrow grocery clerk. “The necessity of relationship game” = the necessity of game to all relationships.

      Anyway, I politely gave her, as well as the others advice – don’t be so easy, you’ll regret it when it matters later in life. They left like punished dogs with tails between their legs – who was I to reject them!? AND tell them what to do? They did as I said, however. Because I was unwavering in my attitude and conviction.

      They’d thank me later. I waited for the fourth one, who I was actually attracted to, to come over and bang.

      “Don’t be so easy, you’ll regret it when it matters later in life…” Dad didn’t teach them it, so they had to learn the hard way. This is the hard way. (Face-fucking is the even harder way.) The point is: we are the last-resort teachers of women. We are the ones holding the mirror up to them. They scream and howl at the ugly cunt staring back, and so betas have hastened to take the mirror away, to end all the pain. They “tr[y] to make her feel better or tr[y] to make her stop crying and she … would[] never come back again.”

      She was bawling covering herself in a dirty towel that had cum on it from previous bangs. She said something about how wrong it all was. And kept bawling louder. I laughed. I seriously, legit laughed at her. Told her, at least I came. She stopped crying. Looked at me. And started laughing. She crawled back in bed, we fell asleep, and fucked in the morning.

      She will never forget this lesson. She always will seek out a teacher with the ability to deliver such a harsh truth, a truth that coincides with her most honest assessment of herself in those rare moments she can be honest, despite the decades and layers of fraudulent feminist fluff.

      This doesn’t mean I don’t genuinely like some of them. One of them I like a lot, however circumstance and timing is against me right now, and it seems I will simply have to bang her soon and let her find a “decent” guy after I’m done cause I think she’s too fragile and naive tbh.

      That’s my only qualm with Game and the modern woman. Is it works. And it makes me almost afraid to be in a real relationship again. And that means what past relationships I thought had meaning, I now see every nuance and detail in them that point toward me probably having been the idiot that these girls boyfriends have been in relation to me at this point in time.

      “Afraid to be in a real relationship again” is a good fear, a healthy fear. That apprehension has already saved countless men from bad decisions and extricated countless more from bad situations, thanks to websites like these. That apprehension defines “relationship game” and good, long-term PUA tactics.

      The unfortunate reality for this generation and a couple more to come is that until a woman can match such hardcore game with a comparably hardcore defense, no relationship is possible, much less desirable. Women have fallen that far. They will have to learn how to either resist excellent game and match alpha with alpha, or be protected from it through wisely choosing safe environments/friends or listening to their alpha dads. We are close to the nadir of feminine defense; the gulf between alpha male and the median female has never been larger. They have been made into chocolates to be picked out of a candy box, and only recently, through game, have a few men been advised to be bold and grab handfuls at a time.

      I seriously can’t believe a single word a woman between the age of 0 – 100 says anymore. The only thing I can be sure of is what I say, and what I mean. How others interpret it or take it is on them. That’s why I now believe a certain stoicism with women is, for guys like me, the best way to game them.

      This has ever been the case, from Eve to the Last Woman. They are built to be overwhelmed by truth, not to exchange truths honestly. In the last century we have taught men to lie like women, and so truth has never been more contrasting, more powerful, or more subliminally sought after. Those who hold that precious commodity can wield it like a sword. They can manipulate their power to save or to damn. They can use it to hoard women or to lead men. Stoicism (contra Epicureanism) is an excellent, if not optimal, choice.

      This post was probably the best ever published here in the comboxes, comparable to the early 2007-2010 OP archives of this site.

      Matt

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      • For what it’s worth, I don’t think men are developing alone. I’m finding certain truths to be a much easier sell, even in the den of hoes and over entitled bitches I live in, than I thought they’d be at first.

        When I tell women to not be full of crap, and explain why, most of them get it. All it takes is someone to open their eyes to the fact that the current system isn’t serving them and isn’t going to meet their needs in the long term.

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      • The beta mindset is too impatient to admit the possibility of passive success, though. He has seen his own, beta-brand passivity lead to invisibility. He cannot distinguish a girl’s indifference to omegas from her deliberate avoidance of alpha. So he thinks he has to try, try again, harder harder next time. PUA activity yielded the first good results of his sexual life, so more activity should lead to more and better results, right? But the results are forced and temporary, even in a world of easy drunk girls raised to be whores. “Quantity leads to quality” is the abiding faith of the 10% club (one conversion for every ten pitches). This can work to rack-up notches, if your self-esteem requires that measuring stick. But it doesn’t put you among the elite. Which is fine, as long as you don’t pretend to be elite.

        You sound like a scared Beta searching for any reason to avoid approaching a girl. Seriously. You do. There is no utilitarian value in being scared to go up and talk to a damn girl. You write the above with a tone of superiority and absolute certainty of correctness. Well played. That probably distracted 99% of the people who read it, and as a result it was not immediately apparent to them that the entire paragraph could be rewritten as “I’m scared of females”. I guess I read more critically than most. The entire paragraph could be rewritten as “I’m scared of females”

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      • You are telling on yourself.

        Fear has nothing to do with an aloof posture any more than an elephant fails to be “scared” of a gnat.There is no utilitarian value in being scared to go up and talk to a damn girl. … it was not immediately apparent … that the entire paragraph could be rewritten as “I’m scared of females”. I guess I read more critically than most. The entire paragraph could be rewritten as “I’m scared of females” [sic]As I said above, anticipating your beta-in-alpha-clothing attitude, you have no frame of reference to the passivity which leads to success. You are the envious tryhard who smolders in the corner, like a chubby Lena Dunham who spent two hours putting lipstick on her pigface, ruing how easily the 10 gets all the male attention without even trying.

        We are not “scared of females.” We are aware of their transparently contrived coyness, especially when we know they will eventually make their way around to us anyway, with the tiniest invitation (to give them approach courage). Really, brother. All it takes is a purposeful glance or the most mundane of salutations. You can develop a magnetism that, as the commenter notes above, becomes a problem in itself. A good problem to have. In every group of people, the hottest women will seek you out and make themselves available to you. The only wildcard is their inexperience in acting the pursuer, rather than the constantly pursued. It can lead to confusion if you are not prepared for it or ready to guide it toward progress.

        Don’t believe me if you don’t want to. My point was: by not understanding that this rarefied level of game is possible, or by reinterpreting it into your “fear of girls” frame, you have constructed an artificial ceiling over your exploits. Even if you literally can’t believe it, you should try to force-feed yourself the possibility anyway, if only to avoid stymieing yourself from the start. Especially since moving first means you must begin on her turf, allowing the encounter to occur on her choice of battlefield (Sun Tzu, call your office), rather than knocking her for a loop at step one. Your need to prove your courage to yourself ends up flattering her with attention instead of forcing her to tiptoe into your world. Don’t the PUA guides talk about “hand”? Leverage is a good thing. If you can make her come to you, you don’t have to start one run down before you even get to bat.

        Initiative, too, is a good thing. But once a singer has done his tenth concert or a pilot has landed his tenth plane, it makes no sense to be perpetually petrified. Fear is the mind-killer, and all that. If you are consciously dividing your natural flow of activity into categories like, approach, neg, kino, etc., you are fixated on process rather than rallying in the moment or taking full advantage of opportunity. Your mind isn’t where it is supposed to be. Yes indeed, build up your mojo with method, execution, and examination. But at some point, strive to be rid of all the scaffolding and just radiate a ‘tude. I shouldn’t have to tell you chicks dig that. They don’t want to see the puppet strings — they don’t even want to imagine the possibility of puppet strings.

        All I can do is testify that such relaxed authority is real and devastatingly effective. If you have never seen it in action, you have never seen alpha. PUA, sure; alpha-mimicry, yes; but not alpha.

        Matt

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      • Again I apologize for the length & poor writing, I’m going through some extreme physical & psychological w/d from various substances right now.

        Mainly, just wanted to thank Matt (I’m also a Matthew), for making me feel homo-erotically satisfied, I suppose, is one way to put it.

        & now that I feel extremely validated I’m just gonna admit that I posted the above.

        So yeah, thanks Matt. I’ve always enjoyed your posts & your writing style. I hid my “handle” above ’cause it was Halloween & I wasn’t sure if the mod’s would allow it.

        I never know if it’s better to err on the side of caution & hide who I am in post’s/comments or to use a recognizable pseudonym.

        Problem is that some girls may find this and read it & perhaps know that it’s her or them I’m talking about.

        One word of caution for anyone that wants to travel the same path as me, is to not get caught up in the drug/alcohol aspect of it all – as I’m almost positive that were I not such a maladjusted member of society with polysubstance abuse issues & the heart of a horse to handle such Joe Roegan/Hunter S. Thompsan/Alduous Huxley/Burrough’s etc…intoxicated Dionoysian adventure’s on a daily basis, I wouldn’t have these situations with women occur so frequently, and with such ease. I’m not particularly “Alpha” looking, and were you to see me walking down the road I doubt you’d consider me one to aspire to be like – lest I’m sober, then I seem to quickly like a Pheonix rise from my ashes & glow like the Sun. A Dragon of sorts.

        Seriously, I am in a dark place right now, and reading your response to my comment above as “happyhalloweendudes” has re-ignited in me a certain vigor for life I am needing at this point.

        [All in relation to opiate addiction I’ve been struggling with for 8 years now; I think soon I’ll be doing an Ibogaine treatment & actually try to follow through with some sort of a program. I’ve been with enough women now to make any man know & feel he’s of value, so now I need to actually take the rest of “red-pill” advice & better myself so I can build a life on my own, absent of what addiction’s I have.]

        I should add too, that the girl whose throat was mangled, & as of late all the women/little girls I’ve been with have been between 18 & 22, increasingly more attractive.

        I know it’s wrong to boast, but I’m glad you got something out of it. Do you have a blog (other) Matt?

        Wish me luck with the hell of a detox I’ll be going through this next year. If I make it out the other side, I’ll report back to you all.

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      • Good luck. At the moment, I’m trying to be some positive influence for a friend who went through something similar while recovering from a divorce and having his prior illusions shattered. So I get what you’re talking about in 3D.

        Just remember, there’s more than one way through. Try to find balanced, man friendly support because at the moment, most of the mental health and therapy community is misandrist.

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      • blackbird.younghappyhalloweendudes wrote:

        Problem is that some girls may find this and read it & perhaps know that it’s her or them I’m talking about.

        Don’t use real names of course, and smudge the details. But don’t worry too much about getting recognized. Your words here aren’t broadcast to as many people as it should be (truth doesn’t guarantee popularity, but rather quite the contrary), they won’t find you under a heap of 200 comments, and even if they do it will be a huge leap for them to fit the experience into your slightly skewed reportage of the event.

        I know it’s wrong to boast…

        Says who? Read The Iliad and make like Achilles. That said, it is more effective to let your actions do the bragging for you. Make like Barry Sanders, not Terrell Owens. What distinguished your testimony — and therefore what makes it ring true — was your lack of embellishment or braggadocio. Never fear reporting the real. Get used to disbelief and grumbling that gargles out of the pipsqueaks, it comes with the territory. Just remember most of their player-hate is about their own shortcomings, not your lack of humility. And it isn’t boastful if it’s true and relevant to the discussion. So make sure it’s true, and leave it to the pissants worry about how it sounds.

        One word of caution for anyone that wants to travel the same path as me, is to not get caught up in the drug/alcohol aspect of it all – as I’m almost positive that were I not such a maladjusted member of society with polysubstance abuse issues & the heart of a horse to handle such Joe Rogan/Hunter S. Thompsan/Aldous Huxley/Burrough’s etc…intoxicated Dionysian adventure’s on a daily basis, I wouldn’t have these situations with women occur so frequently, and with such ease.

        It all comes to an end, one way or the other. You can accelerate the end or slow it, and you can determine whether that ending will be a good or bad one. Find a good sponsor, someone who has been there and can testify from experience that it doesn’t have to end badly. Offer to trade sobriety support for game advice. It’s a shame that so much of the wisdom you acquired will be inextricable with the life you have to leave behind. The two lifestyles (addiction/pick-up) are not intrinsically related, but there is a lot of overlap.

        The good news is, sober game is better than the inebriated version, and in many ways the thrill of the pick-up might be able to fill the absence after you escape the H trap. After getting a good sponsor, the next most important thing is to find some substitute for the drugs (which isn’t a real substitute so much as a place-holder) that won’t kill you. I know plenty of recovering addicts/drunks through church, enough to know that religion works for them. I wouldn’t suggest that for you unless you were already heading in that direction, and I am not a imposer when it comes to faith so much as a proposer. Nonetheless, long down the road, you will find your recovery stagnated if you don’t take seriously the second step. I am praying for you, brother. We need more of your type around to face down the coming social apocalypse. Don’t kill yourself, slowly or otherwise.

        Because, for all my praise of your excellent example, you are still only 2/3 there, as I hinted in my response. Soon enough you will tire of female antics (if not necessarily the females themselves) altogether, having been constantly exposed to the worst of their nature. This is the dirty little secret about debasing women: It redounds back to the perpetrator. You don’t receive as much damage as you inflicted, but this is more a function of male toughness versus female vulnerability: their wounds are more visible (and more of a cause célèbre to our femmocentric culture). Eventually you get disgusted with yourself if you aren’t building something good through the cycle of creative destruction, and already you seem cynical about female nature/the possibility of relationship.

        Make no mistake, women need to be debased as a cultural corrective, and cynicism is an irreplaceable tool in modern man’s toolbox. But over the long term, the approach requires serious calibration, balance, zen. “He who fights with monsters should take care that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.” You know they were not made for the pedestal. You also know they all don’t deserve to be reduced to the quick, bawling into your cumrag.

        The golden mean is to have the weapon, to hone it, to show it, and to be proficient with it, but to never have to wield it except upon dire necessity. You will become older and eventually paternal, and you will see these Exorcist-level succubi as having once been little girls who, at some point not long ago, could have been spared their ugly fate. And like you are already doing with some of them — albeit not for the right reasons — you will send them off on a better trajectory than when they first met you.

        At some point you will be able to unforgettably impress upon these girls your presence and your lessons without debasing them further than their malign upbringing already has, without scalping a permanent piece of their souls. That “five minutes of alpha” has broad application, and it doesn’t have to be dark. They pursue the dark because it is the only true thing they recognize in their corrupt lives, but the truth is not exclusive to the darkness. On the contrary, the luminous packs a bigger punch.

        I am an abiding presence in the lives of every woman who has passed through my sphere of influence, to the degree where we pick up precisely where I left them off months or years ago. They don’t remember me for my niceness or warmth, because I rarely bring either. They remember me for the truth I delivered them, that I imposed onto their lives, when they never even heard of such a thing prior to meeting me … nor can they find it anywhere else or since.

        I have learned from this unique vantage that we have huge responsibilities when we hold another’s soul in our hands. Vandalize it, and she will always have the scar. Enlarge it, and she will become a different, better person. Either way, she will never forget her moment with you. But damage and malice eventually turn in on themselves, contract, and work against their wielder. Only by improving your conquests will your network expand and your power multiply. Only then will you build yourself up, primarily by stanching the rot that festers among demonic habits and practices.

        You see, they want to call you the villain. You want to call yourself the villain. Sites like these revel in superficial evil for shock value, like high-school goths. But the truth is, villainy is banal. You aren’t the bad guy for introducing the harsh truth to the women who cross your path. You are the first real thing in their lives, and you have the power to send them along to destruction or redemption. That is an awesome, tempting power.

        Villains get the damaged and masochistic whores. Heroes get the maidens. Be the hero.

        Matt

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      • Thanks, man.

        I understand what you’re saying in it’s entirety. As one girl told me recently, “[I am] both G-d & the Devil. [I] have power,” & such power can be used for good or for evil, however I’ve always felt that I’ve been a bringer of Light for those in the Dark.

        It’s only when I am overcome by my own shortcomings – addiction, alcoholism, learned patterns of destructive behavior always leaning toward a regenerative spirit – that such malevolent sexual tendencies are conjured & invoked from within.

        The primal sexuality I never was taught to experience, & always had a knack for being drawn toward like a Louis Wain (sp?) cat, clawing at the darkness, playing with it, etc…has come out full force – as a power, a will, a drive, a flow…

        shit I gotta catch a flight.

        I’ll check back and finish this diatribe in a bit.

        Your advice is solid, and actually has helped me more than you could ever know. BRB

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    • “And don’t go around telling anybody & everybody who you are sleeping with. Let the women do the talking.”

      Excellent advice. Men who don’t kiss and tell are the best.

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    • I really can’t imagine too many things worse than being a human female.

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  23. Relationship game? Why bother? Waste of time.

    Leykis101. Just avoid relationships altogether and none of this matters.

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    • ‘Sacly. You can be either a sperm donor OR a friend OR an ATM.

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      • I choose: (D) None of the above

        Don’t donate your sperm (use a condom)
        Don’t be their friend (just fuck them)
        Don’t be an ATM (needs no further explanation)

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      • 1 problem: You don’t get to pick. They do.

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      • choice is an illusion given by those with power to those without.

        “would you like the di hydrogen oxide, or the water?”

        *I’ll have the water please*

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      • 1 problem: You don’t get to pick. They do.

        Each of the above choices: “sperm donor OR a friend OR an ATM” represent some form of commitment/investment, and it is the man that decides that. Pull your fucking head out of your vagina and start being a man, and you will find that you get even more choices in addition to those things.

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      • Actually, in today’s US society, sperm donor requires commitment only for as long as it takes you to inseminate her. So, say, between 5 minutes and a week.

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    • Relationship game is a waste of time…

      UNLESS

      you meet an unbelievably incredible girl. Like I did. Then it’s worth the effort. But I had to cycle through over a hundred fillies before I found her, and even then it was sheer luck.

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      • Aren’t you the guy who admitted that his wife had multiple past partners?

        That’s not incredible. That’s called being a chump.

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    • Why bother?

      Because game can transition to other parts of your life. I use game concepts at work. Most guys I work with can’t make a definitive decision to save their life…I cut to the chase and make it for them.

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  24. Forget tracking your wife; you should be as keen as a schizophrenic-sniffing dog over her hormonal changes and ready to counter, which is most often the exact opposite of your natural kindness. Should you fail there is hell to pay.

    It’s your female co-workers you need to be tracking. Seriously.

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  25. I’ve said it before I’ll say it again : young women are more fun to dance with near the full moon. They are warmer, more receptive, more cheerful, and more adventuresome. Manage your time around this simple fact.

    Because a man wants a wife, not a co-worker.

    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/20/a-man-wants-a-wife-not-a-co-worker

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  26. i have been reflecting lately (not an excercise i had been keeping up with for awhile.) life time is so finite that any lie that could last around a lifetime is immortal, thus, by definition, truth. we are all gaming in a frame of time. sooner or later, all lies turn into truth.

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  27. on October 31, 2012 at 6:58 pm ariseandexcel

    Let’s raise our chins slightly in approval. Kudos to the ladies for studying some uncomfortable truths.

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    • on October 31, 2012 at 10:55 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      dude

      who cares? we already knew it all.

      the ancients understood the decivilizing nature of women

      and they put men in charge

      so when are these women going to put men in charge?

      until they do that, it is all academic, so to speak.

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  28. Trim
    When the word “Marriage” lights up in the female brain-space it is always umbilically linked to he-only-fuks-me concept of monagamy.
    Just sayin…

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  29. Athol Kay of Married Man Sex Life is worth a look.

    http://marriedmansexlife.com/

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  30. I always love reading the comments, especially from GBFM and heartiste’s in-comment replies! My big question is, how to we get ourselves to start having indomitable positivity and confidence? I have a brother and friends who get chicks all the time…but they are greedy and have stolen chicks I invited out or brought over! Should I keep going out with them and follow their steps? I get bitter and jealous when I see they are closing the deal with a chick and I’m not, and hope they fail! Yet when I am getting a chick myself I think “the more, the merrier.” How do I adopt an outcome independent attitude, which ironically allows you better success with chicks! How do I get my heart to stop beating so hard in the initial stages of talking to chicks? How do I stop being bitter at chicks for being liberal and liking stupid shit like Jersey Shore? I’ve done it before, I have a hard time thinking about what worked! I’ve gotten to tap the oh-so-delicious young, fit 18-20 year old pussy…yet now I’m going on 3 months without ANY! It’s a vicious cycle!

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    • You aren’t going to have confidence with women until you have some experience with them. Until then you’ll have to fake it. Stop being jealous of your brother and friends, learn from them. Don’t worry about her political views, as if an 18-20 woman really has anything intelligent to say about politics. I watched the first season of the Jersey Shore and found it entertaining, so what. Most importantly, life is long, chill out a little.

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  31. It’s almost like we’ve created an illusion of an unknowable female psychology to mask the predictable, mercenary, and Machiavellian truth. And then it’s almost also as if ignorance of this truth is the justification for lifting all the societal restraints on female sexuality that existed for centuries…hmmmm….

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  32. Yep. Relationship Game would have saved my marriage. Alas,mI took the red pill at fifty rather than twenty… However (and as I have said here many times) relationship game has made a world of difference with my children, my parents, my siblings, and even my ex. Game works!

    And I will sigh and again point out that science cannot confirm. Science can only refute. Anyone who claims that their pet theory has been “confirmed” by science is actually practicing pseudoscience. “Clinical studies prove” is advertising, not science.

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  33. Texas. ZZ Top. When I met them I heard, “I suppose by now you have heard about the murders.”
    If I live a 1000 years, I will still remember that.

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  34. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-us-birth-rate-hits-all-time-low-407-babies-born-unmarried-women

    Somebody said he would be interested to see how it would end. Look at the above link. I think it has ended.

    Party on. This society is over. You owe it nothing.

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  35. on October 31, 2012 at 9:13 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    O.T.: GBFM will love this: Alfreda Hitchcocka.

    Lolzzlolzzzzollol.

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    • on October 31, 2012 at 9:35 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      lzozozlzlzlozoz butthextxualz lzozozlzllozo

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  36. I insist that GeishaKate and King A post at least a month’s worth of their email exchanges.

    I’m betting we can use the emails to confirm the validity of this article.

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    • Dear stooge:

      Try composing a message without my name in it.

      Nobody has any idea what you’re talking about. Do you even know what you’re talking about?

      Ease up on the quixotic crusade against shadows. You might learn something.

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  37. on October 31, 2012 at 9:17 pm Anti Blue pill

    Joe Biden game? hahaha

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  38. When my daughter was 9 years old she fell off the stern of a sailing yatch of mine into some deep water. She was wearing a life vest; I was not.
    I went over anyway and spent 20 minutes or so treading water and talking to her about school or whatever to keep her calm while the brain dead crew gradually managed to finally bring the thing about and pick up the boat-owner and his highly beloved half frozen daughter/
    It is A good thing when there is a way to communicate what is essential.

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  39. Repost, just because this got sent to moderation limbo for too long when I first tried to post it.

    __________________

    It’s interesting to try and characterize the different commenters who repeatedly post on this site.

    YaReally’s comments sometimes seem like they come from an annoying teenage whigger, shucking and jiving as he pontificates on Game and women.

    I try not to read comments by our regular female trolls (GeishaKate, NiteLily, RappacinisDaughter, Neecy, et al, including the one chick who tried to earn a temporary Man Card by going on and on about how she prefers a M1911 .45 to a smaller handgun…bitch please….), but when I do, all I hear are the sounds of the teacher from the old Charlie Brown cartoons.

    Greg Eliot’s one – liners are arrows (generously tipped with wit and humor) thudding into a bull’s eye. When the topic is race, the arrows are fired by a master Samurai.

    GBFM’s posts remind me of nothing other than deeply profound Zen Koans: they seem like gibberish at first, but gain more and more meaning every time you read them.

    Gunslingergregi’s comments ARE gibberish.

    Reading King A (Matthew King)’s comments is like sitting in your dorm room at 3:00 AM and listening to your drunken honors-college/classical-studies major/fundamental Christian roommate go on and on about what’s wrong with the world: it’s amusing, annoying, and occasionally (and often accidentally) enlightening, all at once. When you’re not in the mood, reading a particularly verbose King A comment is like being trapped in a bathysphere with someone who just farted…a bathysphere which just began a 9-mile descent to the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

    Have I forgotten anyone?

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    • on November 1, 2012 at 10:45 pm gunslingergregi

      you can say you missed me its ok he he he

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    • I like the dorm room example for King A. All of his sentences are profound, but none of them logically follow the previous sentence. There is never “a point”. Nothing comes close to qualifying as “an argument”. And there has definitely never been anything even loosely resembling a “cohesive theme” in any post he has written. Each post is just a long string of boldly-asserted non-sequiturs.

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      • I used to say the same thing. King A is an acquired taste.

        I used to be a fierce atheist red pill-obsessed nihilist. Now I’m not sure about anything. King A does a great job at distilling what I’d call the masculine mystique. You just gotta give it time and widen your perspective to let it sink in.

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  40. When you fell off a ship in a convoy in WW2, I hear they would not stop,even if they saw you fall because stopping to pick you up meant taking a chance on getting torpedoed.

    I guess your shipmates tossed stuff over the side for you and waved goodbye?

    The lesson here is, it still sucks to be a man unless you take steps to make sure it doesn’t.

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  41. Actually this is proof that Alphaness and Betaness are genetically ingrained. How many guys really want to the boring, bland guy who doesn’t know how to have real fun but his selling point to women is that he has a steady job? More to the point of the article – why on earth would women even want to get married to some boring guy?

    Women consciously don’t know about this? Bah, Betas wish!

    http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ATMOVIE3Chick.HTM

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  42. …to amass both alpha fucks and beta bucks…

    cos dats da way we roll.

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  43. You might call me a ‘hater,’ or whatever, but what I see here is you copy-pasting one paragraph from an abstract, like this :

    “Nevertheless, the negative feelings appear fleeting, and they don’t seem to affect a woman’s long-term commitment to her romantic relationship, the study found.”

    And then writing a long ‘paraphrase’ that doesn’t really have much to do with the above :

    “If your ego can emotionally weather the morbid sight of your wife swooning for guys with smooth moves, and perhaps cheating on you one week every month, your marriage should be good to go. Naturally, most men can’t tolerate that, so game becomes of paramount importance for keeping their wives or girlfriends maximally attracted to them, and not other men.”

    Does the first paragraph from the study mention keeping wives and girlfriends ‘maximally attractive?’ Does it say anything about women who cheat doing it ‘one week every month?’ Is there in fact any link between Paragraphs One and Two?

    Establish these sort of factual or causal links is important when you claim your theories are true because science.

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    • Did you even read the post? If you did, I don’t think you would be as confused as you are right now.

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  44. Brilliant. Heartiste at his best.

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  45. This stuff is scary, but the DNA test goes a long way in neutralizing this female tactic of trading up at the beta’s expense.

    If a woman actually goes through with this ploy that is hardwired in her brain, the beta male can very easily catch her. So the worst is her screwing around on him but she has to be careful not to have someone else’s baby or she loses her marriage.

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    • Yes. But the beta must act quickly. Most states, I have read, allow a husband to challenge paternity only in a narrow time frame. Once that time frame is over, the baby is his legally. This is done to protect the family, don’t you know.

      When you realize that almost 1/2 of the children in this country are now born to single mothers, and are thus automatically supported by the State, the unrelenting pursuit by the State to force child support payments from men, often improperly or unreasonably (not the father, ridiculously high payments, or financial hardship of the father), seems a bit unfair. But, it never was about fairness, was it?

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      • I have to just add. The same State that protects cuckoldary in the name of protecting the family also provides incentives for women to sue for divorce over nothing at all except boredom (no fault divorce).

        Guys who follow the rules don’t realize that the rules are stacked against them.

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      • superb comment, “gramps”.

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  46. “much of game is, in essence, learned charisma of the high status alpha male, your beloved boo can be… how shall we say?… massaged, or imperceptibly guided”

    If beta males are the bad genetic material and alpha males the good, then isn’t this advice encouraging the spread of bad genes by fooling the women’s biological instincts? If so, is a beta who pretends just as good relationship and father material (but not genetic material) as an alpha, so the pretending doesn’t really matter?

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    • on November 1, 2012 at 6:29 am Mr Pointyface

      Evolution’s judgment is all ex post facto, if the beta fathers the child, then by definition he was superior to what was thought to be the Alpha

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  47. So what sort of game do you need to apply to remain alpha in a LTR.

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  48. successfully maintaining a relationship is a balancing act. you need some beta/provider game as well as alphaness.

    after 1 year my ex-wife only liked me when she was ovulating.

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  49. When nagging, inconsolable women lob heat-of-the-moment accusations at their men, the accusations usually take the form of scattershot wails about one-size-fits-all conventional relationship issues that come straight from therapists’ hackneyed textbooks.

    “You don’t care about me.” “You never listen.” “You don’t support this marriage like I do.” “You forgot to go food shopping AGAIN. How many times do I have to remind you?!”

    So these beta men, quite reasonably, care harder, listen longer, support stronger, and buy enough groceries to fill a fat housewife’s appetizer plate. He reasons, “This is what she claims she wants, so this is what I’ll give her. And that should make her be nice to me like she was last week.”

    Aye, it’s a similar dynamic that peaks around age 3 or so in young children. A child can definitely recognize he’s feeling bad but unfortunately he’s unable to process and verbalize the exact reason why. For example, my niece defaults to a claim that she’s hungry when something non-obvious is bothering her. The issue is usually about something completely different (sadness about her cousins leaving, tiredness, etc.) but since the feeling of being hungry is the clearest feeling of distress she’s familiar with, that’s what she assumes herself to be.

    If you try to feed her based on her words (when she’s not actually hungry), she’s no longer just sad, she’s mad at you for a) not understanding her, b) aggravating her confusion about herself c) not taking care of the actual problem. “I’m hungry but I don’t want to eat and you’re stupid! Waaah!”

    As discussed in the various female solipsism threads lately, women don’t tend to be as explicitly conscious of their mind’s internal workings as men, so they’ll display more of this behavior as adults too.

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    • KK,

      I agree completely,

      I too have said in other threads that female behavior is very similar to the behavior of a 3 or 4 year old.

      although it is the female who is doing everything wrong, she blames the man for not being able to read her mind and not fixing the problem.

      I really like your example, that is basically how things are processed in the average female’s brain

      That is why if a man can find a woman who is not as irrational as a 3 year old , he should keep her

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      • on November 8, 2012 at 7:47 am blackbird.young

        “That is why if a man can find a woman who is not as irrational as a 3 year old , he should keep her[,]”

        This is all any body need know.

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  50. da best cure for erectile disfunction is young puyzyzyzuzyyuzyzu puzzy

    LOL! I will post the same comment again since everythinh posted form my ipad is lost nowadays…

    I was told I needed to use glasses when still in high school. Obviously, I found that the worst thing that ever happened to any human being ever and delayed it for as much as I could until I could barely see the blackboard in school…

    Anyway, my delays in accepting glasses/contact lenses led to some great experiences in this alpha/beta stuff

    In my “blind” days I would go to nightclubs where you don’t actually need to look into the girl’s eyes to notice she is looking into you. By her head’s position I could see that, so my near blindness wouldn’t handicap me in noticing that a girl was interested.

    Yet I ALWAYS rated her well above her true value in the distance until I came one or two steps away from her and noticed her real rate, always 2-3 points below my initial guess

    Talk about a case of an alpha eye contact, an alpha walk and an uber-beta approach…

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    • Yet I ALWAYS rated her well above her true value in the distance until I came one or two steps away from her and noticed her real rate, always 2-3 points below my initial guess

      Good from far but far from good.

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  51. This is also known as womens dual genetic imperative:

    1. The need for the alpaha male
    2. The need for the provider male

    I wrote about it here :

    http://sexthreepointzero.com/2012/02/11/the-sex-2-0-genetic-imperatives/

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    • Indeed.
      Women in LTRs actually want two men. A man they are attracted to and a man they get comfort from.

      Girls aren’t attracted to dudes that make them comfortable, think about it.
      Girls aren’t comfortable around guys that they are attracted to.

      Being one man is easy, almost a mindless task. Being both is more of a challenge and is why a lot of guys don’t bother if the girl isn’t truely exceptional. Most females aren’t worth the trouble.

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  52. “We don’t know if men are picking up on this behavior, but if they are, it must be confusing for them,” Larson said.

    Most men are confused by the female behavior.

    Even women themselves – the good ones at least – admit being confused by their own behavior!

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  53. All humans care about is wealth and status.

    People on the left vote against the right because they are secure in status but not wealth.

    People on the right vote against the left because they are secure in wealth but not status.

    The right wants to take the status from the left.

    The left wants to take the wealth from the right.

    This explains why SWPL’s vote for left, as they have all the status they need (within their milieu) and it explains why proles vote for the right (they have all the wealth they need, but their status is constantly under attack by the leftist vanguard, i.e you damn redneck misogynistic racist!)

    Think about it, all the white people on the left; academics, media execs, artistic types, all fit into this categorisation. And all the people on the right who are presumably voting against their economic interest, have little status in comparison to these leftists. So while white working class people might not be voting in their economic interest when they vote republican, they are voting in their status interest.

    Perhaps the republicans should start demanding that, since status has such an important effect on peoples health and self-esteem, perhaps we should start re-distributing it from those on the left, to those on the right?

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  54. on November 1, 2012 at 12:14 pm Obstinance Works

    Men in relationships should read this over and over and also Rollo’s piece on the Femist Mystique. The FemMatrix is strong in America. Assume every woman and man you meet is under its spell.

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  55. […] another week, another fantastic article from the Chateau. I found this particular post interesting because the study (once again by our friend Dr. Martie Haselton) he breaks down here […]

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  56. “You don’t care about me.” “You never listen.” “You don’t support this marriage like I do.” “You forgot to go food shopping AGAIN. How many times do I have to remind you?!”

    In regards to this, with the exception of marriage, I can’t tell you how many times having grown up in a lower income area that I have seen the most alpha of men have women who throw comments out there like this.

    I do not think it is fair to completely say that alphas are devoid of this type of fighting as I think these comments spur up out of women to help them feel like their “I-don’t-give-a-fuck” alpha lover still cares.

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    • on November 1, 2012 at 11:03 pm gunslingergregi

      you know what that comes from
      it comes from cheating and lying and getting caught then the woman has you by the ballsack when you get caught and still stay with her and she will bring it up for the REST of your LIFE

      me my chick talking about bringing girls in and making them worship me as i should be lolzzzzz and making them kiss my feet he he he

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  57. Glad you’ve made use of this study. You’re welcome, by the way….

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  58. Out of curiosity, how did they rate male attractiveness in this study?

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  59. on November 1, 2012 at 11:31 pm gunslingergregi

    relationship game?

    chick:an hurt ten times worse when i’m ballin my eyes out cause of u an your on the phone laughing your ass off all kissy kissy i love u 2 your wife an u wanted me

    more shit but yea uhh

    me that was us having a major fight cause i wanted to get off phone with her and take you to clinic but ya i guess even fighting not all bad
    when we call each other everything else at time is dropped so yea me wanting to get off phone was a big fucking deal plus getting off to take another woman to doctor especially when i had to tell her we were fucking and even then i was still willing to take you on time

    So this chick hears me on phone and is crying and shit goes upstairs says i got even louder she closed the door to not hear me trying to escape
    i am like yea you got to work towards love like that
    she just in awe of the way i treat my wife so definetly not asshole i guess like i said been talking cuddly to wife for really long time
    even when she talking about killing the two of us
    the truth will set you free though she was hurt by it but allready knows the deal i don’t lie so she asked question and i didn’t plead the 5th and we stayed lovy dovy lol
    funny shit though even in a dark moment the chick could hear the love
    she says she doesn’t deserve love like that
    i am like i think i deserve everything
    but yea thats when she started the bring woman to worship you shit
    fucking around with the bow down to greg shit but actually meaning it he he he

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  60. on November 1, 2012 at 11:46 pm gunslingergregi

    i think it was then she knew she wasen’t gonna be stealing me from the wife for sure
    yea i do get the you don’t treat me like that
    yea no shit
    give a 150 percent and we’ll talk about it

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  61. Relationship game is more necassary and relevant than ever.

    Before feminism and pseudocapitalism spread their tentacles all over Western societies, married women had limited choices that were held in check by the expectations and demands of their extended families, relatives and the church.

    I was told a story about a husband who slapped his wife for being a argumentative bitch. In her indignant state, she packs her shit up and goes to Mum and Dad’s house.
    Dad asks her what happened and she tells him what husband did etc.
    Dad; knowing his daughter better than she knows herself, goes to his room and comes out with his belt and gives her a few good whacks while kicking her out of his house and telling her to shut the fuck up get the fuck back to her husband.

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    • on November 2, 2012 at 12:04 am gunslingergregi

      yea the only thing that can hold a chick in check is another chick that you didn’t lie about
      even better than beating em physically beating the shit out of them mentally
      competition woman thrive on it or cut themselves on it which

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  62. on November 2, 2012 at 12:01 am gunslingergregi

    another chick trying to have my baby with no name on the birth certificate

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  63. you still living in Bali, cumguzzlergregi?

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  64. Marrying and relationship gaming a woman that earns substantially more money than you.

    A doable ideal.

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  65. Without necessarily meaning to, the website (and study) explains the universal success of Charlie Sheen in 2 1/2 men across genders. Pure unapologetic alpha.
     
    Now if your member is in a jar tucked under her lingerie then you are “shocked, I say shocked” at Charlie’s behaviour. But you secretly cheer for him and would gladly stand back and let Sir Charles provide her service since it might make her happy for a fleeting second so you just might feel flesh rather than tissue once as you bite your lip. 
     
    If you’re driving your own course then you cheer him on cause alphas don’t have to compete due to the betafication which has resulted from an increasing service sector economy. “Waah, My job doesn’t provide me inner satisfaction!”. Make something, build something, take real risks, get uncomfortable (ordering a Venti doesn’t qualify).
     
    Btw, Ashton is the perfect beta posing as an alpha.  That’s why the women/wives still watch but the rest of us alphas went to the road show for Charlie, thanked him and moved on.

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  66. I suddenly remembered a line from the play “Pygmalion” by George Bernard Shaw, which became the famous film “My Fair Lady”…

    ….when Henry Higgins roars at Eliza:”..Marry some sentimental hog with lots of money, a thick pair of lips to kiss you with and a thick pair of boots to kick you with!”

    For a woman, this is the equation:

    Perfect husband = one whose balls are delicately balanced on the razor-sharp knife edge between betatude and alphatude.

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  67. relationship game advice:

    gf made me a smoothie this morning where she overloaded it with parsley. tasted like shit. i told her “you should have made the recipe i asked you to last night”. she flipped out got pissed and said ” you always blame me for shit, fuck that and fuck you ! ” i was running late to work so i didnt say a word. i just grabbed my stuff and left.

    a little background. I have hand in this relationship. always have. when we first got together she found out i was still seeing my ex which has planted insecurity in her heart. to this day she always says ” you always make me feel insecure ugh” …”i am so confident with everyone else but you”.

    all things considered she is a great gf, wife material even..feminine, wakes up early to cook for me. is doting, sex etc…but i cant have her saying shit like that to me without retribution….my plan was just to go ghost for a few days until she apologizes…what say the chateau ?

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    • Ghost/Dread.

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    • She tried a reframe and you didn’t let her by engaging in the argument, plus a back turn/exit to boot. Well played.

      The only thing that would have made it better would have been laughing at her after you tasted it and while you said it tasted like shit. You’re having a good time no matter what and she’s the asshole for trying to ruin things.

      Whenever girls get shitty with me, I laugh at them. The madder they get the funnier it is.

      Ghosting isn’t a bad tactic, she’ll get the message.

      If you have hand in the relationship, in her heart she wants to please you and that’s probably why she got mad/frustrated. Another tactic is to treat her like a little girl and start giving her orders showing her exactly how to make the smoothie correctly.

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  68. […] Nick, means well, I really do, but he just gets it so very, very wrong.  He needs to read about the necessity of relationship game, but I’ve noticed his blog has gone quiet for awhile now, so maybe his wife left him or […]

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    • What’s wrong with them! It’s such a mystery! Who can explain it!

      These daft bitches will forever attempt to square the circle rather than reconsider the assumptions behind what they think they want. Maybe they don’t want “nice” and “doting.” Maybe the satisfaction of their superficial checklists necessarily leads to misery. Maybe what they want is irrelevant. Maybe their happiness isn’t the focus of life, culture, civilization, and all mankind. None of this occurs to them.

      In contrast, men are perpetually deconstructing, examining, and reconstructing the premises behind perplexing phenomena until a plausible explanation/solution emerges, as evidenced by sites like these.

      Rather than address their bemusement, women write skits about how baffling everything is. So baffling, it’s hilarious!

      A year of hardship would do these giggle pots a lifetime of good. Either that, or they can stumble across a man among the swamp of Herbs they soak their used pussies in.

      Matt

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  69. on November 8, 2012 at 7:41 am blackbird.young

    Matt, I hope you post some ‘Matthew’s’ soon, & explain to us your cunt-game as I have previously, unabashedly attempted to extrapolate myself (as an M). Though blushing while typing of course.

    King A, make’s me think of Peep Show (television), though I want to know what truth’s lie beyond his brilliant word’s.

    Like, in which cubicle did Heartiste type your word’s for the Mary whose Magdalene caulked your wallz? This is where “Greg Elliot” would have stepped in, two different blog names later.

    Or, how is one to believe that these constant content driven information slivers are no more than 3 people’s words delivered as pho-un?

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  70. I agree to the research and most of the women really do it and sometimes men are just like keep quite.However most of the women make it big that’s why sometimes in a relationship there is always a problem.In Finland many of the couple use to go in some counseling specially for those newly married for them to handle very well their relationship in future.

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  71. Thanks for the great info man. This information coupled with the 16 commandments of poon have helped me ignite my sex life again. My girl and I were starting to fall off and it was driving me fuckin crazy until I figured out that more and more that I was acting like a beta instead of embracing the small bits of natural alpha within. I corrected my behavior, made my sexual intentions very clear, let her know that I didn’t need her and let her come to me. We went from fucking once every 3 weeks to every day, more like twice daily during her ovulation period. She even started giving me head again without even asking. We used to stick to missionary only… now I do what I want and she loves it. Knowledge is power man.

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