No-Call Game

Fed up with having to decide when you should call a chick after getting her digits? Tired of phone tag while managing the ever-present annoyance of flaking? Baffled whether to leave a voicemail or send a text? Wondering what kind of message to leave?

You can stop beating yourself up! Jack Goes Forth writes that he has discovered a loophole which he dubs “No-call game”:

My new game: The ‘no-call’ game. You still have to get a girl’s number but during the exchange you pull the ‘text me your number and I’ll hit you back with mine real quick’, then appear to be busy and get the fuck out of dodge. Then you simply never call them. Ever. Even if they call you, you don’t pick up, or reply. You never, ever, call a girl…or really anyone for that matter. In fact even if you meet a girl you really like, you definitely don’t call her. Don’t even call her back. Actually don’t ever see her again unless it happens by chance. I think when you get to this point of game where it really means nothing at all to you to completely lose touch with every girl you meet, for some reason the laws of nature will reward you. You may wonder how you would ever meet up with a girl and put yourself in a position to bang without ever speaking to them, and I can’t answer that. It’s like a jedi-mind trick thing. That’s why this game will only work for only a handful of men.

Through a combination of having girls throw themselves at me while I’m bartending, my hatred of speaking to people over the phone, overwhelming laziness, and a lack of concern for anyone’s feelings but my own, I’ve somehow found myself with 10 different options at a time, all the time. I cheat on the girls that I’m cheating on my girlfriend with. It’s sad really…but I don’t care, which is the whole point of the exercise.

I’m aloof to the point of comatose…. I barely even speak to girls when we’re on an actual date, which I don’t go on. Bartending at a youngish (21-28) party bar has spoiled me for the rest of my life.

I may have found my ‘end game’ (RooshV).

This email was not a joke. I believe in my system.

No-call game is the ultimate expression of aloof and indifferent Uncaring Asshole game. We all know how much hot chicks moisten up for a self-absorbed man who doesn’t take them seriously. (Ugly chicks moisten up, too, but they are smart to realize that an attentive beta is in their best interests.)

No-call game isn’t for everyone. A few things have to be in place for it to work.

  1. You need to collect a lot of numbers. No-calling one chick means there is a 99% chance you will never bang her. No-calling 100 chicks means the chance you will bang any one individual chick just tripled. There seems to be a mysterious “law of large numbers” that takes effect when you are no-juggling lots of girls — opportunities begin to present themselves with little effort on your part.
  2. You need to collect the numbers of chicks who live, work or play near you. No-call game relies in part on future chance encounters — let’s say at Trader Joe’s or on your street — so that when the girl bumps into you she starts chasing you because your no-call raised your value well above hers. Jack is a bartender, which satisfies the “she must play near you” condition.
  3. You need to have ice running through your veins. When that no-called chick runs into you with desire in her eyes she is likely going to shit test the hell out of you for not calling her. Steady on, governor. You’ll need to remain as aloof in her company as when you were not calling her. Hint: act like she is the one with the problem.

You may think this post is a joke, but I can confirm it’s not. Ask any man who is swimming in pussy and he will tell you in so many words that the fruits of no-call game form a big part of his life. Quite simply, in-demand men forget more chicks’ numbers in a day than you will get in a year. And how do those forgotten girls reward them? You guessed it.

Of course, being a bartender helps. A friend with a high status day job in Chicago called to tell me he had taken a side job as a bartender. He sounded excited, so I asked him how it was. He said he’s quadrupled the number of bangs he’s gotten since bartending. He concluded that bartending is a higher status job for men than any societally approved career. But no-call game will work even if you’re not a bartender. Let’s say you meet a girl at your local coffee shop and you game her like you would any girl. You exchange numbers and take off. You never call her. Two weeks later, you see her at the coffee shop again and sit near her.

HER: You never called!

THE DEVIL U WILL ALWAYS FORGIVE: I hate talking on the phone. Funny, we met right at this exact same spot last time.

HER: That’s not cool. You could text.

THE DEVIL U WILL ALWAYS FORGIVE: [shaking head] Big thumbs.

HER: [stifling laugh] You’re one of those guys, huh.

THE DEVIL U WILL ALWAYS FORGIVE: Good to my mother? Yes. [proceeds to game her as if they just met for a surprise date]

Although a girl will act superficially offended that you didn’t call her, underneath her angered and shamed exterior she is bristling with arousal and curiosity. She wants more than ever to know about the man who couldn’t be bothered to follow up for a chance at tapping her cute ass. When meeting girls for sex becomes an afterthought, or even a bother, is when the sex will flow freely like a river.

Also note, as Jack mentioned, that laconic game beats verbose game any time. When in doubt, say nothing with confidence.





Comments


  1. This game is particularly effective in college and grad school when students run in the same circles. You are almost guaranteed to run into the same girls over and over again.

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  2. I discovered this underlying principle accidentally, when I really wanted to take a few weeks off sex after a bad relationship. Girls were literally throwing themselves on my wang.

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  3. Seriously, are there multiple writers now? I can’t tell for sure, but it seems like this post isn’t the same as original roissy.

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  4. OK I can see the underlying message of this post but for me the numbers don’t add up to make this your primary strategy. If you get 100 numbers and don’t call any of them. You may run into a handful again but unless you bang them right then you’re not going to call them to arrange a day 2.

    Or

    You get 100 numbers, call and get a date with 30 of them, and bang 15 of them….seems pretty clear to me. If you’re talking about being a bartender, you can get a lot of same night lays without even exchanging numbers so it doesn’t really have anything to do with not ever calling…

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  5. calling these bitches seems like a chore sometimes. i like this.

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  6. heh, I was actually thinking about something like this, definitely whoever doesn’t call has the upper hand. But this is not a game, this is wallflower tactic. And shit, in a country with normal ratio and even here until probably last couple of decades of fatsoes, that’s exactly how it worked for wallflowers, 1 in 100.
    Now what game is is the active disinterest – approaching tons, yet keeping the upper hand. What would be nice (and what I was pondering) is being able to do it with phone/texting… Dunno, maybe texting, getting reply, then disappearing for a while?

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  7. O.K. Roissy, you lost me on this post. The post by Jack Goes Forth about his “no-call game” was interesting. But I did not follow your take on it. First off, Jack emphasizes the fact that he is a bartender and seems (to me at least) to imply that the major reason this game works for him is because he IS a bartender. He also comes right out and says in no uncertain terms that this game will not work for most men (“this game will only work for only a handful of men”).

    In your discussion of Jack’s game you appear to contradict Jack by de-emphasizing the fact that he is a bartender. You mention it in only a few sentences of your multi-paragraph post. You also de-emphasize Jack’s implied slant that being bartender is a major factor in the success he has had with this game and you furthermore go directly against Jack’s advice that this game will only “work” (more below on why I put “work” in parenthesis) for a handful of men when you bluntly state that: “no-call game will work even if you’re not a bartender.”

    Most bizzare of all though is how you define “work”. You state: “No-calling one chick means there is a 99% chance you will never bang her.” Guhhhnh?

    So this game is considered to have “worked” if you have a 1% success rate?!? Are you kidding? Before I learned ANY game at all my success rate in cold pick-up of 8’s and above was about 5% (about 1 in 20 approached were eventually bedded). Sorry Roissy, this no-call game sounds like bad advice to me. If the no-call game only yields a 1% success rate, why bother? I could go back to being pure beta and do about 5-fold better than that.

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  8. I agree that this only makes sense where you are likely to run into these girls again, like college or in the same apartment building. But it really depends on how each individual pickup goes. If you’ve established a good connection, and you pull this no-call, she could be hurt and she will avoid you in any future interactions. If she’s low value and you’re looking for an f buddy, why not? I just wouldn’t pull this with a girl where there is strong natural rapport.

    The ultimate paradox of game is that the man must affirmatively approach and establish the frame of the interaction while paradoxically appearing completely aloof and disinterested if the girl were to flake. The no-call approach seems like a bit of a cop out. I think game is about learning how to make the sale while at the sae time convincing the girl that you really don’t care if she buys it, or that you’re even offering it to her.

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  9. This blog has now jumped the shark.

    Fake roissy should be banned from any more posts. Let Morsellaux and dragnet take over.

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  10. Sounds satirical to me. Are you sure you are not being made fun of?

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  11. C– This game is particularly effective in college and grad school when students run in the same circles. You are almost guaranteed to run into the same girls over and over again.

    Good point.

    This works for this guy outside of a restricted social circle situation because he’s a sociable and probably pretty cut and good looking one.

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  12. I think that this post is Seduction Arts 430 for their Masters degree, not to be attempted by those struggling to understand peacocking or standing contrapposto.

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  13. This is not beginner or intermediate game at all.

    The basic truth about number flaking it seems to me is that guys consider getting the number to mean more than it does. These days lots of girls give out numbers when they’ve had any kind of decent conversation with a guy when he asks for it to avoid any risk of unpleasantness. Or they give it out, out of indecisiveness. I.e. they consider you a fallback often enough.

    Building more attraction after you get the number especially, but before too helps prevent flaking. The real goal on first meeting/pickup is lots of IOI’s from her, not just her number.

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  14. nothing new here, but the great thing about this kind of technique is the way you discover it – through absolute laziness.

    Science – i think so. there is a certain adolescent hyperbole to these writings. roissy usually supported figures like tripling your success with something from experience, even if it was comically flimsy or questionable. i just came across the post from april called ‘the wig’ which shames these recent posts.

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  15. By one above I meant bartender at a happenin bar.

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  16. “Seriously, are there multiple writers now? I can’t tell for sure, but it seems like this post isn’t the same as original roissy.”

    I don’t think this is Roissy.

    This post really sucked. In fact, it borders on negligence.

    “No-call” game only works when you’ve had a minimum level of interaction with a chick. It’s perfect for times when you’ve had a fight, or she’s pulling a disappearing act, or playing hard to get. It is not a good strategy when you’ve just met a girl. Pulling numbers and then not using them accomplishes nothing. It’s like breaking down a defense and never taking the shot.

    Just release the book already, man.

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  17. I think the point is that developing this level of aloofness will raise your attractiveness level so much that you’ll be getting so many same-day lays that you’ll never need to use the phone to get a date. He’s not saying that refusing to use the phone gets those same women into bed; he’s saying it somehow gets more other women to jump him.

    Of course, he’s a bartender, and as Roissy points out, bartenders get laid like rock stars. So this may not work for everyone, like he says. But a less extreme version — just not initiating calls, but being willing to take them — worked pretty well for me. I just don’t like using the phone, so I’d tend to let them call me, and the ones that did were much more hooked than the ones I called. Just the usual dynamic of the one putting forth less effort showing higher value.

    Incidentally, does anyone know why bartenders get laid so easily? It can’t be for free drinks; a hot chick can get plenty of guys to buy her free drinks all night. What’s the mystique a bartender has in women’s eyes, such that an ordinary schlub stepping behind a bar sees his success rate shoot up?

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  18. You can’t don’t believe that ‘No-Call Game’ is serious, do you?

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  19. A key point made is that they have your number saved on their mobiles because you synched that way when you number closed.

    When you don’t call, they text you maybe two or three weeks later.

    I agree that this is really advanced game meant only for those who really are having a scheduling problem already.
    You really need to be in a position to not care one way or another about this additional girl.

    Otherwise, don’t do this.

    When my phone was stolen this summer and I lost a number as a result, she texted three weeks later asking me why I hadn’t contacted her.

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  20. I mean that’s great and all, if you’re a bartender swimming in tail. But what about those poor souls that aren’t living off of tips. Let’s say you’ve made life decisions that led you down a path outside of the service industry? I am beginning to think that if one could, one should just work from home…and by home I mean wandering from coffee house to coffee house, running day game.

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  21. Presuming it isn’t a joke…

    “No-call game” isn’t really a form of game at all from what I can see… it’s the natural outcome that occurs to a man who, due to looks, lifestyle, personality or what have you, is so overwhelmed with options that even by doing nothing, he has more opportunities for pussy than he has time.

    People have a tendency to label whatever’s going on in their life as their form of “game”. This guy’s getting laid in spite of no-call game, not because of it, and if the stream were to ever dry up he’d be back playing traditional pick-up.

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  22. Jack is 100% correct. The key is to not care … the rest takes care of itself.

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  23. Jack Goes Forth has discovered the Tao of Steve!

    1. Eliminate your desires.

    2. Do something excellent in her presence, thereby proving
    your sexual worthiness.

    3. Retreat, for as Martin Heidegger said, “We pursue that which retreats from us”.

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  24. Pure plagiarism of my Hail Mary Txt game re: deleting hot girls cell #’s

    and the inevitable txt u get back, which by definition u dont know who its from..leading to nuclear aloofishness and ultra Game.

    BTW, most men wont have access to 100 cell#s..unless of course they are engaging online dating…

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  25. I see how this fits in to the whole laconic thing, and where it would be effective from time to time, but unless you’re in a business where you run into a hell of a lot of desirable women on a regular basis, it’ll bee too labor-intensive a strategy to be effective. Much posturing, less banging.

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  26. Hey Roissy. Is she still a 7 like you said before? (Jessica Simpson)

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  27. In addition to it being aloof asshole game, it’s also supreme abundance mentality. You’ve got so many options that you just can’t be bothered to play in their silly games. The back end is that it ends up giving you mad preselection/social proof and are up there with celebrities in a sense.

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  28. oh God! What happened to Jess?

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  29. This is a shit strategy

    … unless you’re a bartender, or surrounded by multiple girls that you are guaranteed to run into over again (i.e. College)

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  30. I understand the principles of game and why this does work for a select few, but unless the perfect storm was created, I would never use or recommend this strategy in its entirety.

    Most “in demand” girls that you’ve merely only met on a night out will forget about you like yesterdays news if you fall off the radar completely.

    A Hybrid strategy might be best.

    I would simply keep this strategy in the back of my mind and maybe use it on the right target ( a girl i know I will see at some point) while using proper text and phone game on the others.

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  31. @dream puppy…….. I believe the guy walking behind her IS Roissy.Or at least his facial expression is the same as Roissy’s upon seeing this photo.

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  32. This sounds disturbingly like Tyler Durden stuff to me – a lot of “inner game”.

    That’s grand for experts who’ve internalised their game. But not much use for beginners, or intermediates for that matter.

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  33. And the aloof asshole game really depends on you possessing high status.

    If a pleasant beta doesn’t call back, she won’t be crying in her sleep.

    Telling Billy Nerdling not to follow up on probably his first good lead in a long time is very bad advice.

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  34. Who cares if this is advanced game? Though I am inclined to agree with other commenters that this is more an ego-boosting state of mind game for Jake than a numbers-increasing tool of game. Surely he’d be better of calling the girls back.

    Anyways, stop harping on Roissy to stick to game 101. Game 403 is a nice change of pace, and gives those of us who are 2 or 300 level something to aspire to.

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  35. on September 10, 2010 at 2:58 pm Obstinance Works

    Cutting off your dong despite your game face. At least you don’t look desperate or conscious–one or the other.

    I want to punch every bartender in the face for thinking they have any selfworth whatsoever and still get pussy.

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  36. “1. Eliminate your desires.”

    lol that’s the end of erections

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  37. yep, this is a god awful strategy for anyone living in a big city. i’ve collected at least 100 numbers here in nyc that i never bothered to call back for whatever reason. i can think of literally one case in which i ran into the girl shortly thereafter and i decided to allow it to lead somewhere. Literally, this is only practical for people who live in very small cities, or people who are bartenders or who work in some otherwise hip and hands on service/retail environment.

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  38. JM, gaming the numbers game, as it were.

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  39. I try not to troll, but I couldn’t help myself.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,716614,00.html

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  40. @Brant
    To be honest… I think “the wig” was when I first thought there was a different writer.
    Maybe he’s just a variable writer, though. I can’t really tell for sure.

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  41. how about this – hermit game. this is where you don’t get any numbers but somehow quadruple the number of girls coming to your door.

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  42. I like the “nature abhors vacuum” aspect of it… and the “absolute asshole attracts absolutely”. There should be a way to modify it so it is more generally usable.

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  43. Brant, tried that a good while ago… no one showed up. 😉

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  44. How about over-call game?
    Call every number you get three times a day, six times a day on the weekend; watch the females of the world beat a path to your door. This method is also best used by bartenders. and aspiring actors getting over a break-up in LA.

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  45. I predict that after the next post, regardless of the tone or content, half a dozen commenters will complain that it’s not the “real” Roissy.

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  46. Aaron B:

    “Incidentally, does anyone know why bartenders get laid so easily?”

    LOL! I’ve often thought the same thing. The best I can think of is that in the environment of a bar, the bartender is the person in the position of power, the celebrity if you will. Its kind of odd, because with celebrities such as rock stars, actors, and professional athletes, their fame and wealth makes their power obvious and you understand at least why a type of women would dig them.

    But bartenders tend not to make alot of money, and take orders from people all day. Doesn’t sound like power, yet I guess in the context of a bar it is.

    The bartender is in fact the one person at the bar that nearly everyone who enters the bar must communicate with and a bartender will always have people trying to get their attention. In reality they are just some low-paid (or in the right bar in the right city – a moderately paid) service sector sclhlub. But with their visible position in the bar, everyone trying in to get their attention and talking to them, they present the appearance of someone who is powerful.

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  47. God, this is such a shit strategy, it almost makes me think this post is a prank.

    This strategy, as others have already mentioned, is probably only good for a guy who is already swimming in pussy and truly can’t be bothered with following up on new leads. That’s it.

    Anybody else who tries this will be wasting time. I mean, why in the fuck would you collect 100 #’s only to not call them?

    Again, this strategy probably only works for two types of people:

    1. Good looking bartenders or good looking guys in a service industry where they interact with women all the time and are likely to run into the same women over and over again.

    2. Guys in a large & very restricted social circle, like frat guys who meet the same sorority sluts at every party, and thus don’t really need to call the chicks much since they are likely to run into them all the time.

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  48. Somebody needs to do a linguistic analysis on all the posts on this site.
    There has got to be some type of software or someone with the minimal amount of knowledge and maximum amount of time on their hands to figure out a word count and frequency of certain words, or however they figure out who wrote what.
    It can’t be that hard. they did it with the bible, and that shit is lame.

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  49. Actually, not entirely true. It was when I were engaged to my 1st X, which is near hermit-like condition.

    I found once a while–like 2 weeks–a shopping bag with some stuff in it–grapes, or coffee, hanging on my doorknob. Just that. No note, nuthin.

    That lasted about 3 months and one day, when I had my fiancee in my apartment. I heard a knock and opened the door. My former GF (FGF) was there, with a shopping bag in her hand–I did put 2 and 2 together. My fiancee (FE) was apparently curious so she got to the door too. Well, kinda iffy situation. I invited the FGF in. Both FE and FGF were solid 7 and of a similar gynoid built, though my FE had a decidedly more impressive rack. Not sure what we talked about… arts maybe, she wanted to go some art courses and asked me about the quality. I heard my FE hamster spinning, though, but I was young and stupid, the whole thing was uncomfy. Of course I would probably feel much better if she showed up when my FE was not there.
    The FGF probably realized that there was nothing much she could gain and that was the last I saw her until years later. I was entirely happy with my FE, and though there was a little devil whispering from my left shoulder, I did not listen, but… If I had any brains at that time or a time machine was available, I would walk her out of door and toward the fence and tell her out of the FE earshot: “Can you show up, uhm, like, every 2 months or so?”

    The sound of the FE’s hamster spinning was really lovely, in the retrospective. 😉

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  50. “Incidentally, does anyone know why bartenders get laid so easily?”

    LOLZ IT’S THE DRUNK CHICKS, STUPID.

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  51. I have no doubt this works. But I was wondering. If you can pull this off… do you need a game at all?

    It’s not just game, more like being a lazy aloof dude making an already attracted girl go crazy for you

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  52. Right, this strategy has some very specific conditions that are required for it to work. The verdict: Not generally usable.

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  53. Yea, this is a useless strategy.
    It does suck to call women on the phone. I’m sure they are just as uncomfortable too…

    What usually works after getting a number is to slydial a quick message a few days later…After that it’s strictly text. Chicks love that fucking shit. Texts should be short and to the point. If you get no response move on.

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  54. @ hortence

    you are absolutely correct in your analysis. One would think that it would be obvious to any person with a brain that works that bartending is a schlubby off hour service job … but that power display must trigger something primal in the typical female idiot. Every bartender I’ve ever known or seen is usually cleaning up.

    The only thing I can think of is that some girls live in the now, and they respond to the most powerful male at that moment in their lives.– I know when I’m suited up and at work with authority over others, the looks I receive from females are top notch. Unfortunately most jobs with some level of power require professionalism… whereas bartending doesn’t and tosses in alcohol.

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  55. lolz @Brant. Come on guys, easy to make fun of this, but srsly, how do you text in way that gets her to chase?
    I got following:
    – trial text – good, but hard to come up with good stuff, may appear as you’re afraid to be more direct.
    – qualifying, i.e. instead of “drinks?” – “are you a beer girl or martini girl?” etc (works, but hard to come up with something cool fast – i.e. my example is rather lame)
    – the usual – negging, teasing. I found calling her a tease/player is pretty good. On the other hand, a much smaller sample of flakes I tried “shy girl” on, didn’t really work out.
    – calling her bad girl out of the blue, going very sexual fast (“oi Debbie, you dirty girl – you cheeky bastard”) – works very well when works, but can blow you out. A good screening tool against dates to nowhere perhaps. Gotta have a come back in case of “why am I bad”: “you know why” is rather lame, “I like bad girls” worked better. Don’t try to make sense I guess :))
    – typical run-off-the-mill “how are you, how about tonight” shit may blow out very good prospects, in fact might be better to use non-game (or very brief “hey/wassup player”) until you come up with something good.

    But overall, as ridiculous as this “non-game” approach is, there is a grain of truth:
    a) I’m about to give up on understanding what about me is actually attractive looks wise: sometimes I think I look great and get nowhere (I mean entire night not just a set), sometimes I think I look like shit and get hit on. I mean I still groom myself, but I don’t really care anymore.
    b) As Roosh sometime wrote, you’ll be surprised at the girls who do come through and who don’t. The whole sex market value thing is not really that linear.

    So here’s my hybrid game/no-game: hit on chicks, follow-up with them, but don’t give a shit about it as if it didn’t even happen.

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  56. Steve, what… you want a second job as a bartender to try it out? 😉

    OK, maybe… what about a small restaurant where girls from the near office bldng gather for lunch. That would increase the odds. Or library maybe? Any similar place that people visit repeatedly. It has not the bartender touch, but…

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  57. on September 10, 2010 at 4:35 pm Vincent Ignatius

    This sounds like a damn good idea. I’m getting tired of going through the motions with bitches. This technique probably makes girls put out easier when they finally run into you again. Sounds like a good poon optimization strategy.

    That number I just got, I’m not calling her.

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  58. on September 10, 2010 at 4:35 pm pteradactyl guano

    “Just release the book already, man.”

    Yes. Do.

    (Men, probably, actually. Which one will write it? I think there are at now three of them here.)

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  59. Finally! Chateau FINALLY (almost) gets it.

    Like Doug1 said, this is NOT in any way beginner or intermediate Game. Guys who don’t “get this” are still a level below this, and that’s totally cool. You need to at least have several lays, and maybe a couple of threesomes, under your belt, before attempting this. You cannot ever feel like you’re “starved” for pussy if you’re going to make this type of Game work.

    What Chateau sort of touched on here, but didn’t emphasize enough, was that the Indifference Is The Key. If you’re a man who is in any way struggling with women, chant this into your brain like a mantra until you really get it: Indifference Is The Key.

    Women will freely fuck and fall in love with men who exude both dominance and indifference equally and simultaneously. It is an extremely powerful combination. Without absolute indifference, though, this won’t work. Dominance is already touched on quite well in this blog, so that goes without question. Combining both skyrockets your success.

    A higher level of Game than this, really master level, is to not take phone numbers at all. Ever. Period. Only ever give your number out, and simply stop caring, 100%, if you will ever or never see her again. I mean really stop caring, really stop thinking about her, and just live your life as you will.

    No one, not even me, who does this successfully, can explain exactly why it works. We only know that is does, and until you commit to it fully, it never does. With this type of Game, it’s really all or nothing. Meaning, you can’t use this as some “technique” or “trick”. You have to 100% know, as sure as you know that 2+2=4, that this works, and you will have girls calling and texting you left and right to do whatever it is you want to do with them, and sometimes their girlfriends.

    This method of Game, hands down, gives us men the most return for the time and energy invested. And just what do you do with all of this new-found free time and energy? Who cares. Study a foreign language or two, build your empire, go skydiving, travel to lands uncharted, take up Mixed Martial Arts or any discipline therein. Whatever. Go have fun.

    Again, you can’t “believe” this will work or “think” this will work. You have to know it, and then it just works. I have know idea why, and only a theory as to how, but I do know the what, and this is it.

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  60. The only reason this one works is because he’s a bartender. Plain and straight up. The girls can already see his status for what it is in his environment.

    Take him out of the club and put him on the street, this method isn’t going to work.

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  61. “Again, you can’t “believe” this will work or “think” this will work. You have to know it, and then it just works. I have know idea why, and only a theory as to how, but I do know the what, and this is it.”

    Ugh, this is total jedi-mind-trick/self-help-Tony-Robins bs.

    It is shit like this that makes me ashamed to admit that I have read game books or that I read game blogs. This is why no one take game seriously.

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  62. Whoops, that last sentence should read:

    This is why no one takes game seriously.

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  63. I did this back in the day and it worked very well. Other guys would really get on my case because of my telephone number collection antics. I would go to parties, events, bars and come away with phone numbers all the time. Then I would rarely if ever call (mostly never).

    I couldn’t explain it. This is the first time I have seen it articulated in an effective manner.

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  64. “You have to 100% know, as sure as you know that 2+2=4, that this works, and you will have girls calling and texting you left and right to do whatever it is you want to do with them, and sometimes their girlfriends. ”

    You just got Punk’d, chump.

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  65. Its like someone said above…. why not take it one step further and implement Hermit game!?! lol…. the ultimate in aloof and disinterested. The girls will be breaking down your door for your alpha hermit ass.

    Inner game is key… and so is showing no signs of desperation or creepiness, but at some point you have to be somewhat available. Unless your dealing with girls below your market value, you need to have some form of communication on a purely social level.

    Waiting for only chance encounters is retarded. When the time is ripe to meet up, you need to be in a position to orchestrate it.

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  66. This is not a strategy to deal with women. It’s a description of life after successfully implementing a strategy to deal with yourself.

    Roissy often says that game doesn’t mimic status, game is status. While I disagree slightly with the phrasing, he’s right if you think about game as starting a cycle. Women like confident men. A man who is successful with women will be confident. Therefore, being good with women is a positively-reinforcing feedback loop. The more you get women, the more confident you’ll be, and that confidence will make you more attractive and thus make it easier to get women in the future. That’s why game is status – whether it starts as mimicry or not, it ends up creating confidence, which creates mental dominance, which women near-universally view as status.

    All this so-called “no call game” does is describe the end point of the feedback loop; the point at which you’re at maximum confidence and uncaring aloofness. This isn’t a strategy for dealing with women at all; it’s just a description of the frame of mind you’ll achieve by successfully doing so. In other words, “no call game” is just another way of saying “be supremely confident and aloof.” It doesn’t tell you how to start the loop, just how it works once it’s hit maximum.

    That’s why as a specific strategy it’s worthless. The emailer wouldn’t have started the confidence-building without his bartending gig. Bartenders at hip, young-girl-heavy clubs do great naturally, which starts the loop. Don’t forget that in addition to female patrons always seeking out his attention (which subconsciously gives him status even while he’s serving), also female wait staffs at those types of places are notoriously whorish, incestuous and always sleeping with the male staff, and also tend to show solidarity with the male staff as a unit “against” the patrons. So you’ll have the female wait staff (who’ve probably all slept with him at various times) joking with him, yelling cheerful insults to him, touching him, flirting with him. Those girls provide overt pre-selection, combined with the patrons’ subconscious pre-selection. All that for a decent-looking bartender interacting with hundreds of drunk girls will start the positive-feedback loop with essentially no effort. The end result will be confidence and aloofness so extreme that he’ll be at maximum attractiveness.

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  67. Ice running threw veins. haha. This post is so me.

    I do this all the time. Hot chicks dig it.

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  68. Like JM said, this could be problematic in large cities. Even in DC I rarely run into previous sex partners (though when I do it’s quite entertaining).

    In smaller cities where you have some strong value though I could see this being very effective.

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  69. All men really abhor women. They have menstruation. Their vaginas clam up and smell like a low stinking tide on any given day.

    Embrace the dick.

    Be free from the twat.

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  70. on September 10, 2010 at 5:45 pm Just A Horny Dude

    Jeezus, people. Sure, this Game stuff works. But you know what else works? Being a good lookin’ dude working in a bar full of chicks who want to get laid.

    I am amazed at how often people on this site confuse a man’s attractiveness level and a chick’s sluttiness level with the “effectiveness” of the dude’s “game.” You know what the big secret behind game is? In contemporary America, there are LOTS of sluts. LOTS of chicks who want sex and give it up easily.

    The “trick” of Game is learning how to identify the sluts (who increase in number every year), then pursuing them. Don’t waste time on a “nice” girl who won’t fuck by date three. Find the girls who will fuck on date one! And they’re out there, in much greater numbers than in previous generations.

    Hence, the main difference between those “with game” and those without game is that those “with game” put themselves out there and aggressively pursue the sluts. Beta losers are too timid and self-conscious to make this effort. That’s what it comes down to, making an effort (e.g., asking 100 sluts, er girls, for their numbers).

    The great teaching of Game is simple: Ask a slut for sex and ye shall receive.

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  71. on September 10, 2010 at 5:53 pm Gunslingergregi`

    ”””’Brant
    how about this – hermit game. this is where you don’t get any numbers but somehow quadruple the number of girls coming to your door.
    ”””””
    That does work extremely well but you must be having an alpha female with you who is out there in the social proof trenches one way or another.

    But is this blog real anymore?

    Oh shit lol

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  72. on September 10, 2010 at 6:02 pm gunslingergregi

    True advanced game is just a pyramid “scheme” for lack of a better term with you at the top then woman to bottom.
    Where it is all linked by social proof.

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  73. on September 10, 2010 at 6:03 pm gunslingergregi

    At the point when you have a few woman who are socially connected no you don’t need to do game anymore to get woman and no you don’t need to do anything but keep the top of the pyramid happy.

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  74. on September 10, 2010 at 6:04 pm gunslingergregi

    Which at the same time allows you to be super alloof because you really don’t care about the lower levers it is just more building blocks.

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  75. @Just A Horny Dude

    “The “trick” of Game is learning how to identify the sluts (who increase in number every year), then pursuing them. Don’t waste time on a “nice” girl who won’t fuck by date three. Find the girls who will fuck on date one! And they’re out there, in much greater numbers than in previous generations.
    Hence, the main difference between those “with game” and those without game is that those “with game” put themselves out there and aggressively pursue the sluts. Beta losers are too timid and self-conscious to make this effort. That’s what it comes down to, making an effort (e.g., asking 100 sluts, er girls, for their numbers).
    The great teaching of Game is simple: Ask a slut for sex and ye shall receive.”

    You know……this is the best piece of advice on the blog!

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  76. on September 10, 2010 at 6:11 pm gunslingergregi

    Kind of like what happened with feminism the boss at the top has the ability to promote all of the “high achieving”
    (woman he wants) up to his level throug the use of his power. This leaves the men who are below him at an extreme disadvantage when it comes to competing for these woman. Why it is important for all woman to go to college so the men at the top can be in a position to facilitate there meteorical rise in order to place them in the game zone.

    What the man at top didn’t realize if that it still takes to dam long for this plan to succeed and by the time the woman make it they are bitter harpies who have ridden the carasel already.

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  77. on September 10, 2010 at 6:15 pm gunslingergregi

    Which is why a man with almost no money and the female alpha social proof can beat out the big boss type in quality as in quality of the pussy by the time it makes it to big boss man it is already used up.

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  78. @HLS
    Impressive, and correct analysis. “no-call game” is just the view from the top, and totally impracticable for anyone working their way up the slope.

    @JustAHornyDude
    Yes and no. Yes, game advocates approaching and that’s half the battle. But, you underestimate game as tool for understanding female behavior and attraction. You also underestimate the ability of game to help a man cultivate attraction from girl who – even if slutty, horny, and drunk – wouldn’t give him the time of day of he just tried to chat her up. (Because, a lot of guys don’t know how to charmingly chat a girl up, which is also part of game).

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  79. on September 10, 2010 at 6:22 pm gunslingergregi

    But of course combining big boss style money and pyramid social proof building plus all the free time in the world in many countries around the world with male and female pyramid people under you is going to be pretty dam tough to beat and provide a lifetime of pussy bliss that you could never hope to fully realize the potential of being that you are a human being and there is a time limit.

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  80. Haha! Anyone who does not believe this is living a sad sad life. I know there are a few other guys out there laughing along with me reading this. When I get some time I’ll send in an email about “Sore cock game”. I’ll tell you guys how to keep girls in rotation when you can’t bed them because you are sore from the last 2 or 3 girls you were with earlier.

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  81. phenomenal.

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  82. Yeah, this is small college town stuff. Still its effective.

    You know what else is effective?

    Chill on the other side of the bar, dress sharp, crack some jokes and swoop the girls out the spot.

    The benefit?

    You don’t have to serve drinks, collect tips and wash a bunch of glasses after last call.

    – MPM

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  83. Just A Horny Dude, Ask a slut for sex and ye shall receive.

    That is not the point here, that is a given. Everyone who does the VSTR/ONS Game knows it is a numbers game.

    The point here is… the lazy way. To sit in your recliner, smoking cigar and chicks swarming around you and you just pointing. That sort of thing. Efficiency.

    Gun is right that the “trick” for the lazy (thus smart) way is to construct a scaffold of social proofing network, a ponzi scheme of sorts, where the traffic is referential. It is sort of intuitive. The only thing is to flesh it out for you particular circumstances. That is the hard part, requiring some work and thought.

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  84. on September 10, 2010 at 6:49 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea if your going to go big boss route only you might as well enjoy some strippers. Yea it is pretty much a matter of mood. Sometimes you want a line of strippers to fuck and sometimes you just want a woman to do all the mundane shit including picking up chicks.

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  85. on September 10, 2010 at 6:52 pm gunslingergregi

    That applies to work as well hey someone has to mind the home hearth if you want to have kids.

    So yea you need a variable of woman. Just like a company needs a variable of employees. Everyone is not going to be a high achiever in all areas but you can find employees who want to stick out 30 to 35 years at your company no problem and do mundane shit that whole time for future benefit promise.

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  86. on September 10, 2010 at 6:53 pm gunslingergregi

    Then surprize you can find high achievers of the mundane shit willing to put in the 35 years.

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  87. on September 10, 2010 at 6:55 pm gunslingergregi

    While allowing you the creative high achiever to enjoy the fruit of mundane which is occasional moments of excellance.

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  88. @Just a horny dude

    The great teaching of Game is simple: Ask a slut for sex and ye shall receive.

    Well, you must be very smart to figure that. We must tell the other men!
    The problem is, beta’s timidness is instinctive, internalized, so he’s just not capable of asking. That’s what he needs to learn.

    But yeah, pretty much:

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/04/01/visualizing-beta/

    http://theseducers.com/content/seducers-anti-manifesto

    That’s it.
    The rest is just techniques and logistics to improve “conversion ratio” (which is why this non-game doesn’t make sense).

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  89. feomuerto,

    you can’t bed them because you are sore from the last 2 or 3 girls you were with earlier.

    BS. You’re describing a beginner that just got a bit proficient and has scheduling problems or is hoarding because afraid that he may have a dry spell.

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  90. Too many keyboard heroes throwing nonsense around on this board.

    Anyone who is out here in the game knows that smooth social skills are a key piece of the puzzle. Communication is a must. How else are you gonna let her know to show up at a particular party or club, or meet up later, or whatever.

    Without some communication link, any dude no matter how alpha will fade into irrelevance behind other more available options. Bartenders and College students, and those in intimate cities, have the ability to communicate face to face by being fixed in a spot that is repeatedly visited by the same girls…. In most other cases, proper text and phone game is mandatory.

    Anyone who is bragging about banging so many girls by never lifting a finger, using their phone, or making an ounce of effort is either a liar, a retard, or is banging girls (pigs) way below his level and should not be proud… or in an unlikely fourth, they are the male equivalent of a 10 in which case they really shouldn’t be on this board.

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  91. on September 10, 2010 at 7:17 pm Just A Horny Dude

    The “game” advocates regularly confuse cause and effect. What is the “cause” of the successful lay — the dude’s ability to “game” the chick or the chick’s own sluttiness? Everyone talks as if the only relevant variable is the dude’s “game” skills. Bullshit. Sluttiness is a separate variable. But once you concede that the chick’s sluttiness (i.e., how easy it is to nail her) also is a factor, then you have a rather complicated analytical problem — one which cannot be solved based on the anecdotes of a few “ladies men” who score lots of chicks.

    Consider that hairy British dude who “gamed” a silly girl into letting him kiss her on the street. Even granting that this is some kind of “impressive” feat (did he ever bang her??? he’s not a junior high kid, after all), I’d like to see him try that on 100 random girls (of the appropriate age) and see how many times he succeeds; then I’d like to see the kinds of girls he succeeds with. We all know that most of the time, perhaps 99 times, he’s going to be rejected. But he succeeds once (out of how many attempts?), and that makes him a stud? Oh, brother, what nonsense this “game” stuff can devolve into.

    How about Roissy himself? Is he really so unique? A reasonably good looking guy with a steady job who pursues lots of girls — and avoids LTRs and marriage — is going to notch a lot of pussy over the years. Why? Because our society is full of sluts. They are out there for the taking. This is the fruit of the sexual revolution. Gamers realize the poontang bonanza waiting for them, and make a concerted effort to get it. Even if that means getting shot down time after time. See, e.g., Roosh and Rookie. Try, try again is the motto here. It’s a numbers game, and in today’s society, it works.

    Game pretends, sometimes, to be about larger men-women issues, but really it’s not. It’s about attracting sluts. Sure, really good “gamers” might be able to bed chicks whose sluttiness factor is lower than average, but they ain’t banging prudes. They don’t even bother to try (why would they?).

    Game has grown and prospered, not because it “works,” per se, but because the women of our society are getting easier and easier to lay. See, e.g., the “cougar” phenomenon whereby large numbers of older women try to hold onto their youth by putting out for younger men. This simply wasn’t common 25 years ago. Today’s women are different, i.e., they engage much more willingly in casual sex. This is why Game is succeeding, its pretensions of alpha male grandeur notwithstanding.

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  92. on September 10, 2010 at 7:22 pm gunslingergregi

    The problem with being the male equivelant of a 10 and having a phone is that you will have time for nothing else.
    Dispense that shit to your lackies.

    Only deal with bitches on your terms when you feel like it.

    If you in a period where you feel like it for 24 hours so be it doesn’t matter.

    Bitches do not keep you on a chain though.

    You stay in their minds for years though.

    They pine for you and you contemplate them.

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  93. on September 10, 2010 at 7:27 pm gunslingergregi

    They are interviewing for a job at your company you are telling them something about the company but it is not because you care about what they think about the company so much you just want to see if they can come up with a way of breking into the company to provide a valuable service that no other employee could provide.

    You give them a group of variable that they can latch on too. Someone with no skills will not be able to come up with any worthwhile reason for you even contemplating the beginning stage of going through with filling out the additional paperwork.

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  94. Gun, on the same page, that was the point I were trying to make. One problem. How do you make your ’employees’ work for free?

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  95. on September 10, 2010 at 7:36 pm gunslingergregi

    The same reason I worked in iraq for free for many hours.

    Not working for the money but for an ideal.

    The ideal of helping the team be the best team it could be.

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  96. on September 10, 2010 at 7:39 pm gunslingergregi

    Unfortunatly they didn’t want to be the best team they could be. They were only interested in affirmative action.

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  97. Well, that is nice et all. But how do I convince them that me in recliner and smoking cigar and pointing my index finger at chick to bed… that is is so noble ideal that they don’t have a second thought about participation.

    Hmm, mkay, no, I don’t want to become a cult leader! 😉

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  98. on September 10, 2010 at 7:51 pm gunslingergregi

    Also actuallizing them to the point where they have the capability to spport themselves but at the same time need you valuable guidance.

    Instead of allowing your employee who is willing to work for free to go ahead and leave the company because of no opportunity or resources to help realize their personnal dreams and goals you are smart enough to give them resources to work with and align their dreams and goals to benefit you and the team.

    Of course where the initial interview process helps to seperate wheat from chaffe.

    Some places will have a high achiever type that does not have matching assetts to their dreams.

    Like in the us if they would give out 100k loans to the tune of a trillion dollars to anyone with a business idea and made it easy to apply for what a world it might be.

    I mean welfare queen uses up a 100k in 3 years.

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  99. on September 10, 2010 at 7:53 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’Hmm, mkay, no, I don’t want to become a cult leader! ;-)””””’

    but you do want to be multiple people he he he

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  100. Gun, full of mystery today… 😉

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  101. Ok, so actually Game reveals chicks are selecting for high social intelligence.

    Is this the same for all women? I have lousy social skills, however i do have another assets (smartness, not that bad looking), does it mean i am condemned to a life of no poon?

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  102. I have to give this guy credit for thinking of a creative way to explain why he stabbed his girlfriend 20 times, after finding her with another guy:

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/09/10/actor.stabbing.trial/index.html?hpt=T2

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  103. on September 10, 2010 at 8:09 pm gunslingergregi

    Well I did realize yesterday that large fireworks should have maybe an age of use clause or maybe some training but as usual gunz has come away unscathed. I did actually look at it to acertain which direction it should go into the tube but alas someone else did not. Good thing I had been showing proper lighting procedure of lighting and getting the fuck out of dodge for the midget who did it.
    Then the noticing of the not going off and the consequent waving people back before jumping behind a wall while it exploded on ground.

    So I had it fairly safe set up to begin with so noone got hurt.

    But my body does have a self preservation instinct in the heat of the moment.

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  104. Pro

    Ok, so actually Game reveals chicks are selecting for high social intelligence.

    Is this the same for all women?

    No. Only for 99% of them.

    I have lousy social skills, however i do have another assets (smartness, not that bad looking), does it mean i am condemned to a life of no poon?

    No. It only means that you may have to accept that your selection may be somewhat… limited.

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  105. on September 10, 2010 at 8:13 pm gunslingergregi

    Well no pro because as long as you do shit that can kill you it keeps them intrigued.

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  106. Pro– my social skills suck at the moment, and I suffered many awkward times during my childhood and adolescence. Having said that, I enjoyed a social golden age from age 17 to about 21. I worked at a hotel, which was the greatest thing to happen to a guy like me; it was like bootcamp for social skills. I got to interact with other cool guys and girls my own age or a few years older, as well as management and the guests. I and the other young employees would go out clubbing 3, 4 times a week. I became a pretty suave cat in short order. This carried through most of college.

    From my last year of college on, unfortunately, I regressed into a hermit-like lifestyle. I made a shitload of money, basically in solitude on my computer, but now at 27 I am having a bit of an identity crisis, and I’m determined to reattain my social skills.

    The long and the short of it is this: if one is introverted, being extroverted is not impossible; rather it is like learning to write with your left hand, if you are right-handed. With practice, you can actually become pretty good at it, but you’ll never be flawless like a natural left-hander. And, if you stop socializing, all the skills you’d developed slowly disappear. Natural extroverts, like my dad, could be dropped on a desert island for 10 years and come back home and immediately be the life of the party. Not us introverts.

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  107. on September 10, 2010 at 8:16 pm gunslingergregi

    Really if you just want one chick that puts out pussy it is not that big of a deal.

    It is only when you have higher aspirations that it becomes more and less challenging.

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  108. on September 10, 2010 at 8:26 pm gunslingergregi

    It was wierd like ok again time slowed down I turn around and notice a kid lighting one up and am definetly getting a bad feeling right then like how the fuck did he put it in tube.

    Then I hear the fizzle and realize at that moment that the fucking thing is in backwards.

    Then wave everyone to get to side and get behind wall.

    Then booom!

    So yea not bad. The tube was gone he he he

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  109. “Game has grown and prospered, not because it “works,” per se, but because the women of our society are getting easier and easier to lay. ”

    Half bullshit. True: Women are easier to lay.

    But that doesn’t mean that they’re spreading for Betas. Most men are still cut off from the sexual cornucopia. And Game’s their only ticket to the Mansion.

    And it’s devastatingly effective on the prudes as well.

    This stuff works. That it does might be an indictment of human nature, but work it does. It works so well that a lot of Alphas and women spend their time denying that it works: They’re like the folks beating survivors off the lifeboats from the Titanic.

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  110. Again, fascinating. And, from all my observations, damn damn true.

    Women are such whores.

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  111. It works. When I was young and in an outlaw bike club, I treated all women like they were pieces of shit. I used them for my enjoyment then cast them aside.
    I had bitches waiting in line to be fucked.

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  112. “Ok, so actually Game reveals chicks are selecting for high social intelligence.

    Is this the same for all women?”

    Social skills are pretty important, at least to me, because if I picked someone as equally introverted, we’d be living on a mountain with no contact with the outside world. (although 75% of the time that sounds like a really appealing option to me) Social activities drain me, and any socialization has to be done with some ulterior purpose (civic organizations, etc.) The last time I socialized for the sake of socializing was high school (15+ yrs ago). As an extreme introvert (far end of the spectrum), I’m paired with someone who straddles the middle I/E. I’m generally not at ease socializing solo, so when I’m out with my husband, it’s obviously helps that one of us is at ease. I doubt I’d be very compatible with someone extremely extroverted, though. So, I can imagine extroverted females might prefer a greater degree of extroversion in their mates. The only exception might be the obnoxious extroverts who talk for the sake of talking without any regard for consistency, logic, or sense. I imagine they self select betas or lower betas simply because they always need to be right.

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  113. At any given bar, on any given night, some women are there to get drunk and get laid.

    The bartender is their fallback position. After all the other guys in the bar deselect themselves, the bartender wins.

    It doesn’t hurt that the bartender, by the nature of his job, has to exhibit lack of deselection. All he has to do is not screw up, and they’ll screw him.

    There’s also the symbolic barrier of the bar itself, restricting them to non-sexual interaction with him. Once again, put a barrier in their way and women’s little hamster wheels will go into overdrive to over come it.

    Then there’s the “professional” aspect. I suspect women regard the bartender almost as a guaranteed “no strings attached” fuck.

    As for no-call game, the most luck I’ve had with women was when out and about focussed heavily on anything except women. So busy that I didn’t want to be bothered. High energy aloofness. It’s amazing to me how many women would strike up conversations when I was obviously trying to avoid contact.

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  114. @ whatever

    “Anyone who is bragging about banging so many girls by never lifting a finger, using their phone, or making an ounce of effort is either a liar, a retard, or is banging girls (pigs) way below his level and should not be proud… or in an unlikely fourth, they are the male equivalent of a 10 in which case they really shouldn’t be on this board.”

    Haha. This is good stuff. This is a good laugh man. Matter of fact this whole thread kind of puts things into persective…but I’m not giving up on you guys yet.

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  115. i totally empathize with you’re situation and agree with you analysis. i’m a natural introvert who was highly social in the same age-range, uner similar circumstances. A couple moves, a time consuming ltr, and a career where I am significantly younger than my coworkers has pushed me back into being introverted. currently making a concerted effort to reverse that. good luck to you.

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  116. What comes first, the careless attitude or the sea of poon? Or do both grow slowly with time?

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  117. on September 10, 2010 at 10:01 pm Prophet Jeremiah your Daddy

    It’s easy to see. If you have experienced is even easier.

    Its implications on inner game are clear also: you become an all-powerful chick magnet, and if you can keep the mind focused on the aloofness of “comatose” proportions for a while, it really pays off.

    The moment you let go, but really let go, it starts to happen.

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  118. on September 10, 2010 at 10:02 pm Prophet Jeremiah your Daddy

    Pussy is coming, so why sweat it

    but you have to take a leap

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  119. @Aaron B.

    “Incidentally, does anyone know why bartenders get laid so easily? It can’t be for free drinks; a hot chick can get plenty of guys to buy her free drinks all night. What’s the mystique a bartender has in women’s eyes, such that an ordinary schlub stepping behind a bar sees his success rate shoot up?

    They are in command of the festivities, authority, Baby. See “Henry Alfred Kissinger”

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  120. Bartenders and bikers tend to get loads of tail. So they probably didn’t need the aloof game to get action.

    What would be interesting to see how the aloofness strategy helped folks in non-glamorous jobs and hobbies. I reckon it won’t help out anyone who isn’t a PUA or natural alpha.

    Not knocking it – it does work for those folks. And it’s always important to play it cool when interacting with ladies, and not focus on getting laid or pedestalizing the pussy. But it would serve us betas well if we keep and use the phone numbers, at least in the early stages of our apprenticeship.

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  121. on September 10, 2010 at 10:42 pm gunslingergregi

    In the early stages you need to learn how to fuck and touch practice without worrying about anything see how the woman reacts. Hypothesize something try it and see reaction.

    You always escalate when you get to moment of truth but you have to have skills to escalate to.

    Escalating to bad sex is not going to do your confidense any favors.

    A womans body is a piano and that is the only instrument I ever learned.

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  122. This is completely off topic but it is so damn funny I had to share. Yes, you could say the man in the video is a chauvinist but this blog is a bastion of free speech. There is no message to this video, I just wanted to share something funny. Note the women surround the narrator like the Gestapo. Also note the security guard sheepishly wondering what to do. But in the end, free speech wins the day. That’s what I love about the good ol USA. Enjoy:

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  123. It works so well that a lot of Alphas and women spend their time denying that it works: They’re like the folks beating survivors off the lifeboats from the Titanic.

    That sir, was an excellent simile. Well done.

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  124. The only reason this one works is because he’s a bartender.

    Bingo.

    Not only is a bartender already on third base, but the SAME GIRLS KEEP GOING TO THAT BAR. That is the only way he bumps into them again.

    “Incidentally, does anyone know why bartenders get laid so easily?”

    *Logistical advantage.
    *’Professional’ conduct that makes them stand out from all the Betas eyeing her, immediately makes him look higher value.
    *Alcohol is sex fuel anyway, and since every time a girl had sex with a new guy, alcohol was involved, so there are a bunch of ‘anchors’ to past sexual thrills in the vicinity of the bartender.

    There is only other low-paying non-criminal male profession that gets a man laid this easily : Be in a band, even a small time one, that plays at a venue with hotties.

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  125. *There is only ONE other

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  126. I am surprised that bar owners still pay bartenders a salary…

    Since enough guys know that a bartender gets laid easily, many guys would even do it for free (or even PAY for the privilege).

    It is a surprise that any bartender can get his boss to pay him at all, when tons of other guys would do it for free..

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  127. Mucluch
    I can relate, sort of. Just keep in mind that the main thing you will need to always get back in the saddle is simple, unrefined cruelty. The sort of “keep your blood-spurts off my clean white shoes” stone cold bored killer attitude is a sensible goal.
    BTW, burning Koranic Books is the second best way to encourage Muslims living in the West to find a way to demonstrate, beyond any doubt, that they despise and reject the whole concept of Shaira Law. The very best way involves burning something else…

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  128. on September 11, 2010 at 2:45 am gunslingergregi

    Yea rum it wasn’t the muslims that moved the textile mills one mill at a time out of north carolina to china if was a us citizen.

    http://endeavors.unc.edu/fall2004/textiles.html

    Prepare to make less.

    Doctors in bosnia making 300 a month or so.

    he he he

    What if they completely removed tarriffs on that I guess you know doctors would probably make less money perhaps.

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  129. i need ya ATM, mah

    ass-to-mouth!

    or the MTA….

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  130. Tim

    Thanks.

    it’s a common phenomenon: Most folks have alpha friends who scoff at game. And often dispense advice of the just-be-yourself variety.
    Or sometimes they have it so internalized that they don’t know they have it

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  131. Actually I unintentionally tried hermit game once and it worked just fine. When I was in college, for a project I decided to recreate Henry Thoreau’s experiment. I built a small shack in the hills behind the campus and lived there for 2 or 3 months until the administration found out and made me dismantle the shack.

    During those 2 or 3 months, I got an unbelievable amount of pussy. I had girls coming by my shack to visit almost every day and more than half the time it led to sex. I had my first threesome in that shack.

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  132. this ought to be called Bartender Game.

    here are better scenarios:

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: Fuck you?
    (she starts moistening)

    -or-

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: Why should I?

    -or-

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: Who are you?

    -or-

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: You’re almost orgasming?

    -or-

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: Are you all sluts like that? Oops, slut isn’t an offence anymore.

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  133. http://homepage.psy.utexas.edu/homepage/faculty/Pennebaker/reprints/Beatles.pdf

    Someone get on this. I’d like to see a definitive answer about who wrote which posts and if there actually is a new poster or posters at the Chateau. Maybe I’m delusional because I just don’t like some of the new posts compared to the older ones.

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  134. on September 11, 2010 at 1:12 pm gunslingergregi

    Everything just seems to re-enforce what I have been saying.

    The reason they ar firing all the white dudes is because they think it will kick start economy as the white dudes become desperate and open business and shit or get some change. The thing that they are not thinking is that if the white dudes are in us they are not really giving a fuck about building it up because there is no sense of community.

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  135. Cannon’s Canon copied:

    i need ya ATM, mah

    ass-to-mouth!

    or the MTA….

    yer giving me
    a bad
    rep

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  136. on September 11, 2010 at 1:51 pm gunslingergregi

    Even can can went gay and didn’t use the no homo.

    Uh oh.

    Mass gay hysteria.

    All men in west just fuck each other like a south park episode.

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  137. on September 11, 2010 at 1:57 pm gunslingergregi

    400000000

    If it was 2 mil per year marriages then that means that over a hundred years that is only a total of 400 million people getting married.

    So yea guess what that means?

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  138. hermit,

    Location! Location! Location!

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  139. Add this one too. That’s my favorite.

    HER: You never called!

    THE DEVIL WHO DOESNT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOU: Eat shit!

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  140. I integrated this shit into my life a few years ago and I had no idea.

    If you’re a subpar male specimen such as I, you risk obliteration by anonymity, unfortunately.

    In other words, no one cares or notices that you’ve played the no-call game. A rather humbling experience.

    Oh yeah, I showed you!
    But there was no one to notice.

    lollllzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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  141. on September 12, 2010 at 2:21 am gunslingergregi

    Or you have to put yourself in situations where woman can start to dream about you and backfill your story with their own version.

    Chilling out in bookstores going out to eat.

    Doing shit getting out.

    Being places.

    Hitting clubs.

    Hitting strip clubs.

    Walking around.

    Have a good time.

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  142. […] Chateau – “Brits Voted Ugliest Women in the World“, “Dancing as a Demonstration of High Value“, “Tough Times are a Bounty for Betas“, “No-Call Game” […]

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  143. “Say nothing with confidence.”

    My one rule has always been: Doing nothing is often the right thing to do. As long as it’s the right sort of nothing.

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  144. I don’t know about other people but for me it worked beautifully. I used to call her every now and then only to see she never picked the phone or when she picked the phone she would say she was busy. I stopped calling her and then she started calling me up and complained for no call from me. Things improved, now I don’t call her anymore; however, she calls me but as I am engaged with some other girl I do not give any damn to former girl friend (FGF).

    The situation with the latest is that again I showed my weakness and called often to her, she would complain me for it. I started taking interest in other things and no calls now, she calls me more often than earlier.

    Therefore, even before Roissy, the game has been in existence and it is common sense which works.

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  145. “The ultimate paradox of game is that the man must affirmatively approach and establish the frame of the interaction while paradoxically appearing completely aloof and disinterested if the girl were to flake.”

    “I think game is about learning how to make the sale while at the sae time convincing the girl that you really don’t care if she buys it, or that you’re even offering it to her.”

    Sidewinder needs his own blog. Brilliantly put.

    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/no-call-game/#comment-204939

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  146. […] From Sidewinder, in Roissy’s comments section. […]

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  147. I take it a step further and never even speak to girls in person. Or look at them. Ever.

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