Alpha Of The Month: Porfirio Rubirosa

We learn what to emulate from the successes of alpha male womanizers as much as we learn what to avoid from the failures of beta male saps. Toady’s inspirational AOTM is Porfirio Rubirosa, a legendary slayer of snatch born in the Dominican Republic to an upper middle class (and from the looks of him, white European) family.

He bedded thousands of women, including such legendary beauties as Ava Gardner, Jayne Mansfield, Eva Peron and Zsa Zsa Gabor.

Not only that, he married the two richest women in the world, first Doris Duke, then Barbara Hutton, and bedded another millionairess, Tina Onassis, as well as queens and countesses.

In the Forties and Fifties no high-society party or jet-set gathering was complete without him. But as the many women who wanted to possess him discovered to their cost, it was this Latin lover who always possessed them.

Preselected by women? Check.
Well-crafted identity? Check.
Chasee, rather than chaser? Check.
Used money to seduce women? Unchecked.

Porfirio Rubirosa — Rubi to his friends — was good-looking, although at 5ft 8in far from tall…

Male charm >>> male height. Judge for yourself if you think he’s good-looking:

Personally, I don’t see it. But then I’m no ‘mo, so most men look ugly to me. I suppose if you’re the bruised ego type who wants to believe only good-looking men get the ladies, you won’t be convinced that Rubirosa’s rise to poonhound fame was largely by virtue of his con and his charm. But keep in mind that the high society women he ran with had their pick of the world’s best-looking men, many of them far better looking than Porfirio, and yet they chose to surrender their bodies (and their fortunes) to this gnomic Latino. Obviously, he had something else going on for him than a devilish smile.

He never did a proper day’s work in his life — yet his success with women enabled him to mix with royalty and film stars, and own private jets, racing cars and polo ponies. He was charming, attentive and thoughtful, but prone to violent jealousy, graceless and utterly amoral.

Chicks dig charming, impulsively violent, sociopathic layabouts.

So what exactly was it that made Rubi the most desirable man on the planet, the man over whom the world’s richest heiresses competed?

The honored guests of Chateau Heartiste know. Let’s see if the Daily Mail knows.

Famously, his attraction lay not only in his mesmerising charm but his bedroom prowess — and his remarkable physical endowment. Along the Riviera and in the nightclubs of Paris and Manhattan, Rubi was known as ‘Toujours Pret’ — always ready — and the large peppermills in Parisian restaurants came to be known as ‘Rubirosas’ in homage his impressive appendage.

Yet, as a new biography makes clear, his rise to fame and riches was due as much to his ruthlessness as his virility. What distinguished him from other handsome young seducers was his astuteness, his ability to spot a vulnerable rich woman, to know the moment to strike and to make her feel desired and wanted.

Classic sneaky fucker (aka renegade alpha) game. He was not the accomplished, admired husband of a lonely trophy wife; he was the secret lover who traveled in shadow and brought promises of passion. His reputation as a great womanizer didn’t hurt him, either. Women can’t resist tempting the ardor of a known Lothario. It’s as if women love the feeling of getting burned, like a retarded child putting his hand near the flame again and again. Hurts so good.

Rubi had been unfaithful from the start of their marriage, but in Paris his womanising became relentless. If Flor [his first wife] remonstrated when he came home covered in lipstick, he would lash out with his fists.

Poon Commandment VIII: Never say you’re sorry.

Eventually she fled back home and they divorced. She later denigrated his sexual technique, complaining that he went on so long she grew bored. Nonetheless, for years after their divorce she continued to sleep with him whenever they met up.

😆 Chris Brown high-fived Porfirio.

Now jobless and penniless — Trujillo had sacked him from his job as ‘Inspector of Embassies’ — Rubi was in desperate need of money. When a jeweller he knew asked him to retrieve some jewels from Madrid, then in the midst of civil war, Rudi agreed.

But he returned with — he said — only some of the jewels, claiming that the rest, worth some $180,000, had been lost when his car was shot at in an ambush; an unlikely explanation, as the car bore no bullet holes. He had, of course, stolen them.

The temperament that compels cads to thieve jewels is the same temperament that so enraptures women. This is why chicks dig jerks *because* they’re jerks, not *despite* their jerkiness.

Rubi further enriched himself by selling Dominican visas at inflated prices to Jews wishing to flee Nazi persecution as war loomed in Europe.

Chicks also dig a man who enriches himself, no matter how unethically. (I doubt Rubi was the kind of reflective man to make pained efforts to justify his actions as a karmic con of a con.)

With his newfound wealth, he had a nose job (he had always hated his broad nose). The best barber in Paris cut his hair, and the best tailor made his suits. His bespoke underpants were shipped over from London’s Jermyn Street and his shoes were handmade.

Bespoke underpants. The master seducer leaves no detail unattended.

He was even restored to his diplomatic post after Trujillo came to Paris and Rubi introduced him to the seamier side of Parisian nightlife, acting as Trujillo’s pimp, to the dictator’s delight.

Beta males are hounded for minor trangressions. Alpha males are quickly forgiven the worst sins.

‘Be careful, this man is dangerous,’ warned the hostess, but within weeks Danielle had left her husband for him.

The most melodious words a man can hear from a beautiful women are not “I love you”. They are “Be careful this man is dangerous.”

Doris [Duke] was the richest woman in the world, heiress to the American Tobacco fortune and worth a staggering $100 million. She had become a journalist following the collapse of her first marriage — her husband had been unable to accommodate her sexually. Rubi had no such difficulties. ‘His purpose was to satisfy women,’ Doris later recalled, and he achieved it with distinction.

Haters who whine that game is tantamount to doing a woman’s bidding should acquaint themselves with Porfirio, the man whose “purpose was to satisfy women.” Whose life would you rather have? A celibate’s who has gone his own way? Or a playboy’s who relishes the pleasure of women’s company?

Rubi’s flagrant infidelity upset Doris, while he chafed at her imperious ways: once, in Cannes, she sent him down to a hotel lobby to fetch some cigarettes. Her ran into an old girlfriend and did not return for three days.

Doris sought to secure his love with extravagant gifts: a townhouse in Paris, a stable full of polo ponies, several sports cars and even a converted B25 bomber.

Beta males buy women’s love and intimacy and call it a victory. Alpha males run into old girlfriends, disappear for days on high sexual adventure, and return to have magnificent gifts lavished them by the women they jilted.

What specific game tactics did Rubi use?

His seduction technique could be crude: seated next to a beautiful woman at dinner, he would take her hand and place it on his lap to show her just how exciting he found her.

Massive kino escalation.

At other times he was more romantic. When he met the film star Zsa Zsa Gabor in a New York hotel, she was married to her third husband George Sanders, a handsome but violently jealous actor. Undeterred, Rubi had her suite filled with red roses. Zsa Zsa invited him into bed and was hooked.

Unpredictability is king. So is knowing your mark’s weaknesses.

Rubi frequently hit her, once blacking her eye just before she was due on stage, but still she found him irresistible, describing him as a ‘sickness’.

Women are aware, on some primal level, that their attraction for the baddest badboys is a sickness to which they can’t help but succumb. Women, in their uncontrollable servitude, loathe the machinations of their own tingles.

Rubi saw a solution to his money problems and set about wooing her, serenading her with a band outside her bedroom window. The fact he had previously been married to her friend and rival Doris Duke made Barbara determined to have him, too. Months later, in December 1953, he had become her fifth husband and she his fourth wife.

Women are natural rivals, at each others’ throats not with daggers, but with innuendo and whisperings. Master seducers exploit this reality about the fairer sex.

Like Doris Duke, Barbara showered him with gifts including an estate in the Dominican Republic and another B25 plane, but he continued to humiliate her with his infidelity and cruelty.

Chicks dig a man who is a challenge. Women don’t want to gaily traipse over your dreary flatlands; they want to strain climbing your rugged mountain peak.

One night, at a dinner party, she punched him and walked out. Rubi merely shrugged, then flew off to join Zsa Zsa Gabor.

Aloof indifference. It’s an acid bath to a woman’s defenses.

The marriage was over: it had lasted a mere three months, but once again left Rubi considerably richer.

What man wouldn’t love to have this guy’s life? Garish pussy buffet, bestowed riches after every bedroom conquest.

until in Paris in 1956, aged 47, he met a pretty 19-year-old actress named Odile Rodin.

‘I’ve heard much about you, Monsieur,’ she told him. ‘None of it good.’ But like all the others, her resistance soon crumbled and before long they were lovers, then were married.

“I’ve heard much about you… none of it good.” The second best thing a man can hear from a beautiful woman.

But if he had finally found a girl who could tame him, it was too late. In 1965, after drinking all night at the nightclub Jimmy’s in celebration of a polo win, Rubi drove home at 7am and crashed his Ferrari into a tree. The steering column crushed his chest and he died on the way to hospital.

He was 56. He had lived and died fast. After nearly four decades of partying, he had little to show for his life. He had never had children — despite his virility, he was sterile — and had spent all the money he acquired.

So sad. And yet, the memories Porfirio carries with him to his afterlife are the same memories that a typical, play-by-the-rules, dutiful beta male who married one woman and bore three kids brings to his afterlife: None. When the cosmic tally is taken of each man’s life, the only difference will be in how they lived while they were alive. And on that account, Porfirio lived a hell of a lot more than the niceguy office drone who rejoiced when his chubby wife relented and gave him a birthday BJ.





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  1. Truly an inspiration.

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    • What’s inspiring about him? He traveled in the circles he would be most successful. Those women slept with him back then only because they were feminist prototypes. Most wealthy and privileged women are feminists, even 200 years ago when feminism wasn’t heard of yet. Those types of women are much looser sexually, especially celebrities and actresses. I assume they heard he was good in bed and they wanted to experience it for themselves. I assume many of these women were comparing notes with each other discreetly about his sexual prowess, just like they compared notes about their hairdresser, makeup artist, and masseur. His name as a sexual friend preceded him. He didn’t have to work hard.

      Anyway, if he were a real alpha he wouldn’t have gotten a nose job. He would have had enough confidence as he is. The man was nothing more than the 1950s metrosexual prototype gaming the sluts of his day. He was their avenue to experimentation.

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      • First this> He traveled in the circles he would be most successful. then this >Anyway, if he were a real alpha he wouldn’t have gotten a nose job<<

        Haha wow. Please give us more of this.

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      • > “After nearly four decades of partying, he had little to show for his life. He had never had children… a typical, play-by-the-rules, dutiful beta male who married one woman and bore three kids…”

        Sorry, Heartiste, but even the Great Nihilist in the Sky, the Flying Spaghetti Monster himself, Charles Robert Darwin, would have to differ with your assessment.

        You can either get busy making babies, or you can get busy going extinct.

        > “the only difference will be in how they lived while they were alive”

        Gotta disagree with you again.

        Rubirosa didn’t LIVE a LIFE.

        Rubirosa DIED a DEATH.

        And all three or four billion years of blood sweat and tears – which his ancestors had invested in the creation of him [going all the back to those ancient ancestral amoeba floating on top of the primordial pond scum] – were extinguished with him.

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      • He might’ve had brothers and sisters.

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      • Who gives a damn? Do you actually sit around worrying about the fate of your genes?

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      • Pretty much 24 hours-a-day, I worry about the fate of Western Civilization, and whether we are so far gone done the road of societal decay and race replacement that The Frankfurt School can no longer be stopped by peaceful means [and peaceful means alone].

        Sure, we could have a shooting war, and wipe them all off the face of the earth, within a week or so.

        But millions [if not tens of millions] might have to be slaughtered to do it that way.

        So, yeah, I worry about this shit every living breathing moment of the day, and then, in my sleep, I dream nightmares about it.

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      • As Zombie Shane will point out: It’s the Frankfurters, The Frankfurters!!

        As is such a laughably abstract phantom army of evil-doers could actually accomplish anything if they really existed.

        Look, here’s Occam’s version for the gene shift you wing nuts are all whining about: white people are so tamed now, so devitalized, they don’t enjoy life enough to think it’s worth passing on. Pretty simple. Smoking hot 23 year old blond German American girls want an iPhone more than they want a baby. NO, they want an iPhone but view a baby as a SCOURGE on their right to party all the time party all the time.

        Is it up to someone else to make white people’s lives more fun. No I do not think so. The norm if you look back is for species and subspecies to go extinct. What possible difference could it make if whitey disappears? Uglier Sears catalogs?

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      • You sound like the typical SWPL, you know? This apathy is the root cause of cultural and racial erosion that many here bemoan.

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      • Zombie Shane

        Pretty much 24 hours-a-day, I worry about the fate of Western Civilization,
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        Why don’t you consider replacing it with something BETTER?

        This shit is played out like a booger;

        I wanna see a young white man on the mic goin buck wild, throwin and flowin and showin NEW style!

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      • Well, in the grand scheme of things, what’s the point of all that humping if it doesn’t leave at least some genetic legacy behind?

        An admittedly major stud, nailing high quality meat, with a major league tool — that’s shootin’ blanks?

        Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humour!

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      • I share your sense of humour.

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      • This is where we encounter that hard truths of the manosphere;

        being alpha =/= being a decent human being

        being alpha =/= being a father

        being alpha =/= contributing meaningfully to society

        I’m sure there are alphas who embody both sets of characteristics, but they don’t come hand in hand, as a prepackaged set.

        being alpha = being selfish

        Nothing wrong with living for your own ends, but I don’t even think CH would claim the situation we have now is a viable long-term survival strategy for the species.

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      • CH might not, but I certainly could.

        We are large, predatory animals. One of the species survival issues for such animals is starvation through success; you call it “overpopulation.” Hence, all such large animals reproduce slowly in the first place and have methods of down regulating reproduction. Methods such as an increased tendency to hedonism and/or homosexuality.

        One of the triggers for down regulation is a lack of “elbow room.” Too much social interaction. In the human case, you call it “civilization.” Hence the “metrosexual” phenomena that can be seen going all the way back to Sumereian and Egyptian cities.

        The idea that the species is currently at risk from lack of reproduction, when it doubled in the century before my birth and has nearly tripled since then is just, well – goofy.

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      • @kfg

        I’ve had this argument countless times over the years, and what it basically comes down to is this; civilization ends when there are no children. Yes, there is probably some way to make drastically decreasing birth rates, but the easiest of those would be to kill everyone over the age of 50; the ratios of young to old get fucked to hell. The burden of caring for the elderly is either too great and the elderly are sacrificed, or the elderly suck up all the remaining resources, and the young are sacrificed. The past is lost, or the future is thrown away.

        And so, the end of civilization.

        No nation ever grew stronger, in the whole of human history, by practicing self-extinction.

        But what I was addressing in my comment was the propensity of people around the manosphere to mistake sexual triumph for moral virtue.

        Society, as a whole, works best when feral behavior (male, female, sexual, violence, etc) are corralled and guided, not unleashed wholesale. Game levels the playing field for men against feral women in the sexual marketplace. It creates no virtue, only further chaos. Some people are looking for answers what’s best for society. Ain’t gonna find them around here.

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      • You have moved the goal post from survival of the species and reduced reproductive rate to civilzation and the end of reproduction.

        I’m not surprised you’ve had this argument countless times.

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      • Hahahaha, I like how you “out alpha” these high status women with your implications. I’m sure you’re pulling mega-exec 10s lol. This guy would have you melting

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      • if he were a real alpha he wouldn’t have gotten a nose job. He would have had enough confidence as he is.

        FACTS.

        Further, a true alpha doesn’t pussybeg his way into fortunes, but has the conviction and discipline to subdue the world around him rather than relying on being the plaything of bored heiresses for his bread.

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      • “the true alpha is enlightened beyond normal human comprehension, needing nothing from anyone, he walks into rooms and everyone trembles in crippling inadequacy” FAAAACK OFF alpha worshipper…your definition is out of reach to any and all who stumbles onto this blog, a “true alpha” wouldn’t be on the internet as it is not productive to building his empire

        Anyone else who wants to jump in on the one-upmanship can go back to your basement dungeons, nobody cares about your supreme definition of “alpha.” This isn’t some beta whiner MRA, MGOW site, it’s game based and he’s an ALPHA with women using game, there is no denying that. OH, bored heiresses you say? The man alpha widowed a 19 year old model in his late 40s

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      • Well-said.

        Since when is a gigolo an alpha? Had he built his own fortune, as opposed to getting it from his middle-aged multi-time divorcees hot-to-trot ladies, that would have been different.

        The guy had no consciences. He was nothing more than an instant-gratification chaser. He would stick the knife in someone’s back if it meant it got his needs met. How powerful emotionally and mentally do you have to be to gratify yourself at all costs? Instant gratification is not the mark of the alpha. Controlling one’s impulses, is.

        Don’t men complain here that women always fall victims to their own desires, and that’s why it is easy to game them? That guy had some feminine aspects to his personality, even though his bedding many women is disguising it to the untrained eye.

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      • Lily, you are a woman trying to argue what does or does not constitute male alpha. You are a woman. Your opinion does not count.

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      • No, certainly not her opinion.

        But her loins count.

        In fact, her loins more or less determine precisely what will and will not constitute an Alpha.

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      • Lily
        The guy had no consciences. He was nothing more than an instant-gratification chaser. He would stick the knife in someone’s back if it meant it got his needs met.
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        Zactly. This dude sounds like a hustler. Im not saying he is one, but he sure fits the profile. Hustlers get a lot of pussy, but they gotta lie all the time to do it. Sooner or later they pull that shit on you and you gotta stomp em.

        Thats probably what that nose job story was about?

        Facial reconstruction work after he tried to rip someone off or skate on a business deal…

        I got a couple of guys like this on my “kill list” for when I become president.

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      • > “The guy had no consciences. He was nothing more than an instant-gratification chaser.”

        All men are instant-gratification chasers.

        What set this man apart was his lack of a conscience; he was what we now call a “sociopath”:

        http://www.google.com/search?q=Hervey+Cleckley+psychopathy

        19. Stanley*
        http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

        And Heartiste is addressing the horrifying reality that stunningly large numbers** of women experience a viscerally lascivious compulsion to fornicate with this sort of utterly amoral evil.

        *Read Cleckley’s chapter on “Stanley”.

        **Maybe even ALL women, were it not for a tiny handful of Dads out there who are still trying their damnedest to fight the good fight and teach their little girls the difference between Good and Evil.

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      • And married a woman 28 years younger.
        So a man of his kind would only marry you if he was 28yr older.
        Kinda hurts, dunnit?

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 5:09 pm Modern Primitive

        “Those women slept with him back then only because they were feminist prototypes.”

        Control, this is engineering, the hamster is currently spinning at 20,000rpm, recommend imidiate shutdown before it all goes to shit.

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      • Lily, I have been reading your posts here on CH for some time, and I believe you are among the most thoughtful and intelligent of the lady commenters on this blog.

        But I would suggest, if magically transported to the year 1960, that even you would be hard put to resist this man’s considerable charm.

        (NOTE: charm does not necessarily equal decent man)

        Certainly a sensible woman such as yourself would read his biography and say “Yech!” But that is only words on paper; it is quite another thing to be the object of the advances of a flesh-and-blood rake Alpha.

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      • “But I would suggest, if magically transported to the year 1960, that even you would be hard put to resist this man’s considerable charm. “
        Certainly a sensible woman such as yourself would read his biography and say “Yech!” But that is only words on paper; it is quite another thing to be the object of the advances of a flesh-and-blood rake Alpha.”

        We’ll never know! You can’t know how you’ll react until you’re in that situation. It so happens I was in similar situations, albeit not the object of such a bloodhound rake. This guy really takes the cake.

        I can tell you for sure that if I heard from my GFs about his antics, I wouldn’t have given him the time of day. Absent my GFs chatter, his smooth personality would have had me uneasy and feeling like he’s a fake, no matter how much charm he was dispensing on me. But I grant you that his persistence might have gotten to me at the end. When you’re uninterested, a rake chases you until he gets what he wants.

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      • Oh, and I just wanted to add that in my book a rake doesn’t equal alpha, which is why I am not as susceptible. A rake will employ unethical tactics to get his sexual gratification. He even chases ugly women to put one more notch on his belt. That doesn’t appeal to me. I like a man with standards, so if he’s interested in me it makes me feel special.

        An alpha in my book is masculine, not a tricky weasel. He’s a good guy, but not a nice guy. He won’t let people take advance of him or women walk all over him, but he’s dependable and has real true friendships with his buddies; he doesn’t stab them in the back at the first chance he gets like a despicable parasite. Although he loves sexing the ladies, he finds other pursuits more important. His whole life’s accomplishments are not based on how many pussies he conquered, or how he can get away with grabbing another man’s wife’s ass in a party (see Tilikum’s story below). He needs to achieve in other areas, and he might even appreciate a girl who isn’t that easy and isn’t like his other average conquests. He has high standards. After all, everyone could behave like a complete pig. How hard is that? Having standards, grace, and intelligence – that’s harder.

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      • “An alpha in my book is masculine, not a tricky weasel.”

        Very good insights, Lily, and I applaud your rigorous standards. However, according to the definition set by Heartiste and Vox Day, the term “Alpha” is amoral; that is, it makes no judgment on a man’s honor, only his appeal to women (generally through the use of Game). A powerful man with sex appeal may devote himself to one woman and heroically resist the advances of the young lovelies around him (somewhat rare, even Eisenhower, MacArthur, and King David failed in this regard); or he may be like our friend Porfirio.

        The difference is honor and moral conviction. This is also true in your case if the standards you write of in your posts are to be believed.

        This is why Alphas like Rubirosa, McQueen, SInatra, Chamberlain (Wilt, not Neville), Namath, Kennedy, Berlusconi, et al. are featured on this blog, their legends titillate and inspire feelings of envy. Monogamous Alphas are considered boring.

        [CH: Boring? No. Monogamous alphas are interesting in their own right because their monogamy, if true, is so rare. Many married alpha males get a little somethin somethin on the side. That’s why you can’t necessarily judge the alphaness of a captain of industry by his frumpy old wife. You have to peer closer and see if he’s banging any hottie mistresses. in my experiences dealing with genuine conventionally anointed alpha males, it’s the rare exception indeed who didn’t have rumors of infidelity swirling about him.]

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      • I always assume alpha males are not sexually faithful to one woman. Some of them are just better at hiding it than others.

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      • Most of these alphas, with frumpy wives, probably are not faithful. Their wives were usually attractive when younger, and also high quality women in general. There probably is some familial loyalty there.

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      • “Alpha” is amoral; that is, it makes no judgment on a man’s honor, only his appeal to women (generally through the use of Game).”

        Yes, Mark. Under that definition, Rubi is indeed an alpha. I am not contesting that. What I am arguing is what constitutes an alpha. I don’t view men like Rubi as alpha. I see him as a weasel and a parasite. Nothing good can come of him, just pain. Since such a man doesn’t interest me in the least, and his charm I view lethal/toxic, I feel the temporary thrills he gives not worth the trouble.
        .

        CH’s comment is very interesting though. Since I am a realist, I can totally handle my husband getting “a little somethin somethin on the side,” as I age. I would have no problem with it as I grew into my 50s (even 40s, if I gained weight). As my sexuality wanes, his might still be alive and kicking. Why deprive him; that’s being selfish. Of course, I will try to look my best to make him defer it to much later, but I won’t go off the deep end if it happens. This doesn’t make him a bad man cheating on me; just normal male interested in sex. Another thing, the more a man is interested in sex, the more he keeps the drive in you at peak levels. If he weren’t interested in sex, it would only make my drive die. So, I don’t understand those feminists that want their hubbies to slowdown sexually with them. For what? So they can die a slow death together?

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      • Lily,
        That’s what happens. We lose interest in sex before they do. I don’t think women see having an active sex life as important to our identity, as much as men do. Plus, since we lose our fertility, and they don’t, it is also likely biological.

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      • It’s not that older women want their husbands to be unfaithful, it’s just that we understand why it happens.

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    • Yes and therefore a mine field of Aspers and hamsters (Lily & Co) running rampant.

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      • Here’s what Lily doesn’t get.

        ‘Alpha’ doesn’t mean ‘I like him’. ‘Alpha’ (in the PUA context) means ‘gets women’. (The usual connotation of leadership of men is correlated, but not identical.)

        Just because one particular woman (Lily) doesn’t like what a guy is doing doesn’t make him not Alpha. If a guy gets lots of tail, it doesn’t matter that *some* chick thinks he’s a douche. It’s an average statement about average human behavior.

        Also, as a lot of people have pointed out, charismatic people are often very different when read about than encountered. A right-wing boss of mine once met Bill Clinton and was swept away by the guy’s charisma while he was there. He later realized he had just been impressed by social skills five standard deviations above the norm, of course.

        This is especially true with Hitler. It’s not too hard to see why any Jew wouldn’t like der Fuehrer, but the dude was a leader of men.

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  2. This article confirms just how depraved women really are.

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    • Wrong. Innate female behavior is amoral. If you find them depraved, that’s your baggage, not theirs.

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      • > “Innate female behavior is amoral.”

        I tend to agree with you there.

        An innate familiarity with morality seems to be foreign to the female nature.

        So to the extent that women are capable of behaving morally, such behavior seems to require that they first be TAUGHT morality by their FATHERS.

        Which, among other things, means that if you want to have any hope of experiencing a productive, constructive, and purposeful marriage & family life, then it is imperative that you seek out a NICE girl from a GOOD family to be your wife – a girl whose father cared enough about her [and about his family] to have taught her the difference between right and wrong.

        And that leads to two final points of utmost importance:

        1) UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES DO YOU PUMP AND DUMP THE NICE GIRLS. Pump-n-Dump is for the bar whores. The nasty hateful witches. The white girl feminazi nutjob kooks who drank the Obama koolaid. You simply do not visit the heartache and the cynicism and the despair of Pump-n-Dump on a nice girl.

        2) Once you knock up a bitch, you damned well better stick around to teach your child the difference between right and wrong – because the poor child’s mother won’t have any [innate] clue how to go about doing it herself. You cut and run on your most important responsibility in life – the responsibility of inculcating in your children the classical values of Western Civilization – and The Frankfurt School is gonna be more than happy to move in and fill the void left by your absence.

        Nature abhors a vacuum – be it physical, or moral.

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      • Don’t you have some GSS data to go stare at through your coke-bottle glasses, instead of attention-whoring here and taking up the time of people who are here to read about game

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      • At least he is brave enough to post under a name.

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      • It kind of sucks when the nice girls get massively fat. I think you’ve kind of hit the nail on the head why it’s so hard to leave though. Giving her half my shit notwithstanding, she actually has a decent personality. Because her father used to whip her ass. “Yeah, that’s why Pop kept all those rose bushes. For switches.”

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      • Shane, the more I read your posts, the more I see how you share my belief system.

        I wonder how you handle the nice girls who seem to be drawn to you, and despite all warning don’t try to attempt to resist. I have myself found myself in this moral conundrum quite a few times, and I’d like to know how you deal with it yourself.

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      • Innate *human* behavior is amoral.

        This is the story of amoral people doing amoral things. Across the board.

        (that being said, I’m not defending my gender – we are capable of some truly fucked-up shit.)

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      • Fucked up shit is a relative judgment call though from any perspective. Some beta male who’s pissed that women won’t sleep with him has only one option to feel dominant…to convince himself of his moral superiority of women. Womens behavior is just as self serving as anyone elses.

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  3. My question is, could Porforio pulled off this lifestyle without a big D?

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    • I’m sure the reports were greatly exaggerated. Larger than average, I’m sure, but I doubt he was John Holmes. Who was not that large himself, frankly.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 12:26 pm The Spirit Within

        Reports of p size are exaggerated by women.

        True story: I’m an averagely endowed man, from what I can tell (maybe a little above), and yet gossip got around in college that I was hugely endowed. I know the girl, a brief fling, who spread the rumor too. Maybe she was trying to get back at her previous guy. Maybe she was trying to do me a favor. I don’t know, but there were lots of knowing feminine glances for a while there.

        It’s shocking, but women don’t always tell the truth. News at 11.

        (Great post, H. Thanks.)

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    • Yes. mainly because penis size, as long as you’re not small, really doesn’t matter when it comes to fully satisfying a woman.

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      • Keep telling yourself those pretty lies.

        lolz

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 9:14 am RappaccinisDaughter

        I don’t know if you’d call it pretty, but it’s not a lie.
        SOURCE: Am a woman

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      • P.S. If you want to summon Thimble Queen, just start talking about the tragedy of male underendowment.

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      • It just occurred to me that you may be transposing the insecurities you have about your own underendowment upon the male version. Am I getting closer?

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      • on November 1, 2013 at 7:38 am RappaccinisDaughter

        No, Matthew. This has nothing to do with the size of my breasts, which I’m hoping is what you’re talking about. This has to do with the fact that modestly endowed men do just fine with the majority of women. Yeah, there is such a thing as a Size Queen, but those of us who *aren’t* sporting Holland Tunnels in our chonies don’t need that.

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      • How big was Mr. Rappaccini’s crank? Did it happen before or during puberty?

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      • on November 1, 2013 at 11:47 am RappaccinisDaughter

        I wouldn’t know; I’ve never seen it. But while we’re on the subject, Matt, just how did you get your religion? Via suppository, or did Fr. O’Rourke give you the dose orally?

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      • not true chief. a big cock is a sign of good breeding and impeccable genetic selection. think about it.

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      • that means there are a lot of tyrones out there with “impeccable genetic selection”,
        no wonder they’ve built all of those great societies and invented all of those wonderful things and managed to subdue all of those other inferior organisms

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      • read up on r/K you simp.

        is it amateur hour?

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      • Which one was Porfirio? He had an op to reduce his “broad” nose. He’s from da DR.Its likely he has a sizeable–no pun intended—ni66a ancestry. His alphaness included living off women,beating them,stealing from guys who depend on him–sounds black to me!! Are mixed race guys any more likely to be sterile? Was he sterile by nature or did he get injured,perhaps by an abusive parent,at an early age. Whatever. Doesnt sound liike a guy we can admire very much. But…he got da pussy! NOTE:ALPHA:Selling visas to Jews fleeing the Nazis;MORE-ALPHA:the visas are fake…

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      • reading and understanding hierarchical response trees aren’t strong suits, eh boy?

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      • holy shit r/k, i wonder what’s next on the line to getting overblown and exaggerated.

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      • it’s doubtful there’s much of any effective difference between tyrone and bubba in wang size. and also how it effects the distribution curve is also something that can only be guessed about.

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      • nature doesn’t really care for our subjective aesthetic fads and assumption, else we would all have foot long pricks. It’s the same reason that the average human height isn’t 7 feet. Big dick is evolutionary expensive, prone to higher maintenance to work, needs more blood to work, more prone to damage, more prone to not working properly e.g. due to vascular problems, more prone to injuries, more complexities etc etc. Given the many forces shaping our evolution, the converging optimal size is essentially somewhere around the mid point.

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      • because every high end broad with maximum choices has kids with the dude with a small one eh?

        i understand the desire of the average to make everybody else average but when enginerds try it, comments like this are what we get.

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      • “Enginerds” hahaha awesome…

        Do some of you guys even pay attention to anything around here…quit “forcing the conversation” Chicks like big D. End of story. They giggle like school girls over it

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      • nature doesn’t really care for our subjective aesthetic fads and assumption, else we would all have foot long pricks.

        Homo sapiens sapiens has the largest cock (and biggest brain) relative to body size of any species.

        The rote naturalism that passes for wisdom around here is insufferable. The El Sids of this echo chamber assert a notion, append “nature says” to it, and presume their flights of fancy to be “scientifically” sound. There is no dialectical back-and-forth that produces sturdy investigation.

        Darwin would be embarrassed of his intellectual and cultural progeny.

        Matt

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      • I don’t have a vagina, so I can’t say for sure. But the typical vagina is 3-4″ deep, and can be stretched to about double that. So any penis that is not unusually short can stimulate the entirety of the vagina, and anything more than 8″ is going to be bottoming out in most women before it’s all the way in. A lot of men fantasize about having a gigantic dick, but it’s probably quite a burden in reality.

        I could imagine extra girth being nice, but there are probably limits to that as well (otherwise childbirth would be the most pleasurable thing a woman could ever experience).

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      • Girth is more important than length

        You could have a 10 inch dick but if it has the girth of a finger, the woman will not feel much

        Having stamina and knowing how to use your penis are also more important than length

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      • You could have a 10 inch dick but if it has the girth of a finger, the woman will not feel much

        Actually, she’ll have the sensation of being repeatedly stabbed in the cervix.

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      • From which she will get no pleasure…

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      • Canadian Friend
        From which she will get no pleasure…
        ——————————————————
        Let her get on top.

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      • You must have a short dick.

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      • No, my dick is actually one of my best features, along with my big brain.

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      • I’m going to say the truth lies somewhere between this and the other commenters. Bigger is -generally- better but up to a point.

        I made the unfortunate mistake of girlfriending at different points in my life two whores (not including the Jersey slut BTW who was nothing compared to these other two). They had both had A L O T of dick. So we got to talking and though they had both had guys with massive tree trunk dicks that made me seem positively small that wasn’t the main deal at all.

        The consensus between Jezebel and the Whore of Babylon was that technique is equally as important as equipment. Remember, a baby’s head can pass through that orifice. It is designed for stretching to accommodate. They both also said that generally the dude’s with tree trunks were “lazy” because they thought they could simply plow like an oil drilling rig and that wasn’t cutting it at all for pleasure for her. They also both said I was the best lover they’d ever had. Orgasm, particularly for women is largely in the mind, not in the vag. So I’m guessing that best lover comment was because they were both pretty chaotic as was I during those times and the dysfunction in the relationship often translated into hate sex or something close to it. It is a divine thing, the ability to get that angst out against one another in the most carnal way possible.

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      • “They also both said I was the best lover they’d ever had.” This may come as a shock but every girl will say this to a man she hopes will commit. Ego-stroking. Take it with a grain of salt.

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      • on October 31, 2013 at 4:52 pm Michael Gersh

        Every woman you will ever fuck will say only one of two things about your joint – either it is the biggest she has ever seen, and you are the best lover ever, or you are the absolutly the worst fuck on the planet. Women have never been truthful about this matter. I think they are hard wired to not even remember the truth of it. It is all about how they feel about you…

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    • What gets me thinking is how ironic and tragic it is for a guy like that to be so genetically endowed, yet unable to pass on his genes because of the fact that he was sterile.

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    • Yes. To women, image is everything. What other people say is everything. The actual thing doesn’t really matter. There is no there, there.

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  4. “he went on so long she grew bored”

    I’ve had this happen. I live overseas, and occasionally I’ll get this complaint from a local girl. “We’ve been going for ten minutes already…aren’t you finished yet?” They’re used to the local men who go from foreplay to finished in five minutes flat. I’ve seen a bunch of sex tapes that locals made and seldom are they more than ten minutes long. I reply, “Honey we’ve just gotten started. It’s going to be 30-45 minutes so just get comfortable.” I feel kind of bad. I’m ruining girls for the local men.

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    • She is keeping track of time, and asking you to hurry up. I don’t see that as a tell that you are spoiling anyone..

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      • Right.

        if a woman ever says “aren’t you finished yet?”; you ain’t swingin the lead correctly; or you need to try a new position.

        Matter of fact, the only sounds coming out of her mouth should be some Helen Keller type grunts and squeals…

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      • Helen Keller type grunts and squeals…

        You mean Ebonics?

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      • I guess you can call it that?

        I consider it my sacred duty to help white girls get in touch with their “inner negro child”

        You ever fuck a girl with her mom in the room next door?

        Try it and then cook breakfast for both of them.

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    • It’s one thing if a scorned woman says she got bored afterwards and still continues to get in bed with you whenever she can, and it’s one entirely different thing if a girl is keeping tabs of how long it has been with you while you were insider of her, and waiting for you to get it over with, capiche?

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  5. (and from the looks of him, white European) family.
    ———————————————————————–

    Hmmm, lets see;

    wide nose + big dick + Dominican?

    Pick out a tree while I go get my rope.

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    • Hey, it’s a lynching joke — how funny, ha, ha!

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    • is it a hierarchal response tree? This ass Tilikum seems to think theyre important somehow. NOTE:I like the scientific stuff,as it applies to Game,and racial stuff etc etc. But dont be a fag and sniff about how you understand some esoteric shit. Just break it down for us knuckle draggers,OK,Tillie?

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  6. Gangster of gash, that guy.

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  7. I’m of two minds about a man like this- on the one hand, he lived large, slayed poon, did whatever he wanted, etc. Sort of the id run wild, an ideal, I suppose, to aspire to. But on the other hand, he was sort of a piece of shit, wasn’t he. Liar, thief, opportunist, user of people. I can’t imagine anyone actually liking him or befriending him once they had his number. (Except for the poor females in thrall to their unfortunate urges.) So speaking of going to the grave, another measure of how well a life was lived is how many people loved, liked, respected, cared for you. I may be simplifying from a short biographical sketch, but it doesn’t look like this guy, whose life might be summarized as the Birth of Eurotrash, had many people like that.

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    • Pretty much. Honestly, if you gets tons of pussy, thats cool, but are you actually a good person? If you’re a bad person who gets tons of pussy I don’t see that as much of an accomplishment.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 8:54 am Hugh G. Rection

        The thing is, if there are no rewards to being a good person, what’s the incentive?

        I don’t think that in the circles Rubirosa operated in there were many good guys (or gals). Fucking some rich whore and fleecing her at the same time or stealing from some scumbag jewel dealer who sent him into a warzone isn’t something I would consider so bad.

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      • Well, being a “good person” doesn’t mean being a “nice guy”. That is a big difference. You don’t have to take shit to be a good person.

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      • you sound about 16. am i right?

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      • Nice leftoid stupidity. Don’t bring logic or facts to the discussion.

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      • there are no bad men or good girls. only people getting their needs met.

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      • @JB

        No. Both Maurice and Ray Gun are not leftoids. They have scruples, and they can detect someone who doesn’t. Either you don’t know the characteristics of a leftoid, or you’re a leftoid yourself and you think the opposite of you is a leftoid.

        Worse, if you think like Tilik, “there are no bad men or good girls. only people getting their needs met,” that’s the epitome of the leftoid philosophy. Let’s get that out of the way.

        If it’s only about your needs being met, then you’re a bad person because you can justify doing anything, including murder, in the quest of self-gratification. One of the functions of the human mind is that it can justify just about anything, including the notion that we’re nothing more than advanced animals. Absent morality, human beings are dangerous to civilization because their intellect could justify anything when it suits their purposes. Therefore, humans should transduced their needs and control gratifying themselves at all costs, by considering doing what’s right, not what they feel like doing at any given moment. Otherwise, they are weak shits worth nothing. How powerful emotionally and mentally do you have to be to gratify yourself at all costs? The opposite shows your strength – when you want to please yourself at all costs and you know it’s wrong, and you prevent yourself from doing it – is where your strength lies. Therefore, the alpha is not a man like Rubi, but a man who has clear lines of demarcation between good/bad, right/wrong, and most importantly self-control as opposed to over indulgence.

        Now consider this. Who would you rather make a very close friend of yours, someone like Rubi who has no consciences and who would stick the knife in your back if it meant getting his needs met, or someone who has some morality guiding his life like Ray Gun and Maurice who will think twice about robbing your Rolex or bedding your wife behind your back?

        Don’t bother; I know the answer. That’s why normal people with a little residue of morality left in them after the cultural assault of both the left and the fascist pagans, pass judgment on a man like Rubi and don’t build him up to be larger than life, or call his life inspirational, or declare him an alpha. They are disgusted of him.

        As Ray Gun said, an alpha has ethics. He’s not necessarily a nice guy, but he’s a good person that someone else could depend on and trust. He’s not a person who will betray you at the first chance he gets because it suits his needs. At the same time, he’s not a person who will let others take advantage of him, or let women walk all over him.

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      • yikes. there it is.

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      • @JB
        I am sorry. I thought you were agreeing with Tilikum there. You were agreeing with Ray gun.

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      • sweetie, i’d tell you to get yourself unfucked but its too late.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 9:32 am Hugh G. Rection

        He lived his life, and I think he very much enjoyed it. Why should it bother him whether others consider him a good person? Especially when he’s in the ground. He doesn’t get to enjoy his funeral anyways so who cares how many people show up or what everybody thought of him?

        Unless you think that the reward is in some sort of afterlife. To me, that’s as “blue pill” as it comes, some convention to get you to play nice so others can use you to their benefit.

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      • Exactly.

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      • Yeah, if your motivation is based on pleasing others, then there’s no reason to be good. But that’s beta. I have an idea: try pleasing yourself. You might figure out that you enjoy being good.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 12:29 pm The Spirit Within

        You’re right: Rubirosa’s circle were a bunch of walking disasters.

        Rolling Stone recently profiled Doris Duke’s grandchildren. Their lives have been unbelievably fucked-up and abusive and outright psychotic. She’s mentioned in the article too. I wouldn’t go near any of them.

        http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-poorest-rich-kids-in-the-world-20130812

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      • Boy, that was sad…

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      • ? She never had children

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 10:23 pm The Spirit Within

        My bad; she was the kids’ great-aunt. But the effect is the same.

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      • Doris Duke,what a POS!

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      • All of these types of people are walking disasters. None of them know the meaning of having scruples. And I wouldn’t go near any of them either. A man like Rubi wouldn’t get the time of day from me, no matter how sexually exciting my GFs tried to convince me he is. Who needs his STDs anyway?

        The type of women he bedded, are the type I was warning BV against in the last threads. There is nothing appealing about them. All they are is middle-aged multi-time divorcees hot-to-trot ladies, whose youth, freshness, and beauty has long been wasted, and they’ve substituted sexuality in its place, or are in hot pursuit of it, with a useless gigolo like Rubi. Not impressed!

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      • He was banging some of the hottest hi-profile women in the country at the time. He married a 19 yo model less than half his age. I re-iterate, you’d melt. Facts are facts..he’s proven in his accomplishments re: the SMV, you’re on a game-awareness site written by men, for men.

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      • News! I wouldn’t melt. A rake doesn’t equal an alpha. A rake is too dysfunctional for my taste. They usually removes tingles, don’t impart them.

        He married a 19 year-old, as well as sexed some pretty ugly middle-aged wenches. This means he had low standards. It meant he amassed as many pussies as he could get to add to his belt notch count. Just because some idiotic 19 year-old fell for his nonsense doesn’t mean all the implications you are trying to attach to him.

        Pay attention to how he died too. Is that how an alpha finds his death? He was a weasel and he died like one. Sorry, not impressed!

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      • Lily: memememememememememememe and me.

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      • The lady has a point. This guy didn’t exactly die in a Spitfire while finishing off a Heinkel when a 109 caught him with the white cliffs of Dover to port, did he?

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      • Rewards are somewhat irrelevant. People are born basically good or they are born basically bad. You are who you are and most people cannot change their innate goodness or badness despite any incentives and rewards that occur in life.

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      • If by born you mean the way they are brought up I agree.

        Some who believes in an after life with various criteria for entry would have a lot more incentive to maintain or improve their goodness (especially of the ilk that believe hell is real or reincarnation can happen to much lower spectrums)

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    • I wonder how many attended his funeral.

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      • Probably more than the generic beta schlub who’s wife divorces him, takes custody of his kids after filing false abuse charges and feeds them lies about what a shitty person he is so they don’t want to be in his life anymore, while in the meantime he stopped hanging out with his friends or meeting new people and new friends/relationships because he vanished into the world of “DVD and takeout” nights with one person, and, after his divorce, he was too obese to fuck but it didn’t matter because he actively threw away the social skills that would have helped him meet new people after his divorce…

        Not that he would’ve had time to develop new relationships, since he’d be busy working his ass off to pay alimony and child support for kids that look suspiciously like his bad-boy next door neighbor, all in the hopes that he doesn’t go to jail for failing to keep her in the life she was accustomed to…her new boyfriend could do that for her if she married her, but why would they get married and cut off her free gov’t supported income source of working him into the grave?

        No one attended THAT guy’s funeral. I’m not saying Rubi’s path is the way to go, but I’ll bet a lot more people were sad to hear he died and missed him, than how many gave a shit about Bob from Accounting the sad broken old divorcee who’s kids haven’t talked to him in years did.

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      • Bravo. Bravo.

        This +10.

        Keep speaking the truth, Ya.

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      • Gawd Ya Really you make suicide sound like a vacation!

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      • bob from accounting is not in high and mighty circles, rubi was big difference there.

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      • not with an attitude like that he isn’t

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      • I would guess hundreds or even thousands of women did.

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      • A lot of men probably went to make sure he was really dead.
        A pile of Ex husbands, broken hearted boyfriends, and beta orbiters left in his wake, attending his wake.

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      • Very true.
        Such men (Porfirio) are anti-civilization. It makes sense that they would be put to death in ancient times as commanded in the Great Books For Men.

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      • The dead don’t really care about that number…only the living.

        I’m hoping the day God chooses me to take me out of this planet will be the best day of my life.

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    • That’s why he was renegade.

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    • on October 30, 2013 at 9:10 am FuriousFerret

      I just don’t buy this argument of ‘he might have had a wild adventure filled life but how many people actually liked him”.

      Beta males hate anybody and everybody that is better than they are. It doesn’t matter what you do, they will find a way to put it into a negative light. The vast majority of people are ‘good’ simply because of necessity not because of virtue. They are too weak and cowardly to seize what they actually desire.

      Yes it’s true Porfirio probably had many of people that disliked but so what? That means he did something right. If most people ‘like’ you that means you’re a chump. Plain and simple.

      In my view, it’s better to stick out and be liked by 10 percent and hated but ultimately respected by the remaining 90 percent than to simply exist and not make any waves. There is always always always a trade off. To actually make a mark on the world, you will probably piss off a lot people and it doesn’t necessarily have to be due to malicious behavior on your part. If you are succeeding you will be hated. It’s just a fact.

      Some guys need to walk up to reality. A ‘good person’ is in most case relative. In fact most ‘good people’ are rife with passive aggressive feminine behavior because any which way you cut it you have to compete and that involves someone else losing. The way you do it is up to you. You can either act like a bitch and self rationalize when you have to take not so nice actions or you can lace up your gloves and be cool about it.

      If you ever watch the show Archer. Who do you really like Archer or Cyril?

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      • If most people ‘like’ you that means you’re a chump.

        Hm, no. There’s a lot wrong with this statement. Think it through.

        Archer and Cryil are both cartoonish streotypes (not to mention literal cartoons). Most people aren’t anything like either one. Funny show, though- mostly because the characters are overwrought caricatures and can get away with saying and doing all kinds of awful shit that would never fly in the real world.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 9:38 am FuriousFerret

        “Hm, no. There’s a lot wrong with this statement. Think it through.”

        I disagree. I’m immersed in an environment that if most people like you definitely are a chump. If you go against that a men should be married pussies that do whatever it takes to be a bitch for the rest of your life you are hated by them. Basically if you believe in just a fraction of what CH writes about to be true, you are not going to be liked.

        The reality is that people that aren’t your close friends ‘like’ people that don’t intimidate them, that are not threatening and don’t compete.

        I’m not even advocating being a douchebag however when you act like a self determined cool guy that actually isn’t being an evil dick, you will still get labeled as dickish douche.

        You’re the one that is not thinking it through by associating non people pleasers as being wicked villians.

        “Archer and Cryil are both cartoonish streotypes (not to mention literal cartoons). Most people aren’t anything like either one.”

        That wasn’t the point. Which one do you honestly like and respect between the two? The badass douchey yet confident alpha Archer or passive aggressive ‘nice’ guy beta Cyril.

        Also Cryil is actually a very honest assessment of a beta male’s true make up.

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      • “Basically if you believe in just a fraction of what CH writes about to be true, you are not going to be liked.”

        Exactly

        Men just need to look at what feminist and society have to say about being a “real man” to know they’ll be hated no matter what you do.
        I can’t believe some men on a site partly about Game are doubting this.

        If you’re someone in doubt the next ti you’re with a mixed group of people talk about your preference for skinny woman, you’ll make alot of friends lmao.

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      • “The vast majority of people are ‘good’ simply because of necessity not because of virtue. They are too weak and cowardly to seize what they actually desire.”

        Yep.

        But the key word is “most.” Most of the alphas I’ve met have higher personal moral standards than betas. The difference is that we don’t try to force our morals on others. That’s beta behavior in my book. True personal morality take strength, so it’s beta to need to get others on board. If your lack of morals hurts me or mine, we’ll have a problem. And I guarantee you’ll regret it. Otherwise, I don’t give a fuck what you do.

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      • You shouldn’t play with your ego in public. You’ll go blind, kid.

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      • We must run in different circles, and I’d say your circle is the vast minority.

        All empirical evidence points to the opposite. Betas tend to be the standard bearers of morality and good. Which is why they are so shell-shocked at the utter amorality of those creatures they have been taught their entire life to respect. They also tend to follow the rules because that is their inherent nature.

        Alphas on the other hand, tend to be moral when it suits their needs. Business requires -some- ethics. Primarily because if you cut enough throats, the word gets out and you will be a pariah. But, dirty dealing, back room meetings, etc. are the order of the day and have been for a long long time. Not much goodness there at all… likewise for having to sack the entire marketing team due to budget cuts.

        Alphas project their morality more openly because, well, alpha but I’ve seen it to be generally quite liquid and malleable in a less public setting.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 3:09 pm FuriousFerret

        “We must run in different circles, and I’d say your circle is the vast minority. ”

        No. Betas have the same lack of morality as most people do they are simply pussies about it. They are passive aggressive and rationalize it. Most people are only as moral as they have to be. The betas are good boys because that’s the role they have been pegged into to. If you gave the loser money, looks and access to women, he might not be as full blown aggressive about it but he will assert himself in a passive aggressive pussy type of way.

        That’s why genuine nice guys are awesome. These are the types that are just chill but not fags about it. Everyone knows and likes the confident man that is a cool guy that will help you out simply because that’s his nature and he’s not doing it to people please.

        That’s what most women truly want. They want a congruent alpha that is cool guy but knows how to handle himself when shit goes down. That’s why they all say ‘confidence’ in unison like retards. Unfortunately, because of human’s inherent selfish nature a true cool guy alpha isn’t plentiful and they will take the total wicked asshole over the ‘nice guy’ beta every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

        “Which is why they are so shell-shocked at the utter amorality of those creatures they have been taught their entire life to respect. They also tend to follow the rules because that is their inherent nature.”

        My take on this is they follow the rules because they expect reciprocity. Ok Johnny, go to school, make money, don’t make waves and decent pussy is going to be yours. If they were honest with themselves and didn’t have social conditioning most of these betas wouldn’t be ‘nice guys’. It’s just that it’s the current paradigm right now for middle class plus men.

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      • the difference is not on morals, morality or lack thereof depends on different principals and social/civilizational forces which effects both alphas and betas the same way. The difference is the betas are followers and the alphas are the followee/vanguard in whatever direction.

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      • the paths are not even close to the same regarding societal forces. for the alpha there aren’t any, not really. in every cost benefit analysis the thought “gosh I wonder how society will think” doesn’t play. only “will I get away with it or not”.

        the omega is strong with this one guys!

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      • Jay,

        We basically agree about betas. 99% are only good out of necessity.

        An alpha buddy of mine is an example. Most people would call him immoral because he’s a swinger. And him and his wife have threesomes with other women. On the other hand, he goes to church every Sunday. And I’ve seen him sacrifice for others, including me, more than once. He doesn’t think there is anything wrong with swinging, so he does it. He’s parted ways with a couple of churches over it. On the other hand, I wouldn’t hesitate to trust him with my woman. He’d never betray me; it’s against his values.

        The difference between the beta and the alpha is that the alpha defines for himself what his values are. I trust my alpha friends to keep their values. (but not society’s values) Beta’s not so much.

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      • Sing songy, high pitched voices are quick to be rallied for the defense of moral supierority…
        The rush of endorphins in the brain of the weak at the exhilaration of self deluded justification is necessary for the ego. Evolution can be kind sometimes.

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      • Haha. So it’s like a win/win whether you go renegade alpha or moral beta. Either you get the boss dopamine or the feel-good endorphin. I think I’ll play a different character every day. Assassin on Saturdays, and off to confession in church on Sundays.

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      • It’s like rape fantasies for women.
        The brain evolved to learn to enjoy the abuse.

        The beta type brain had to find a way to control his apeish superiors, thus God was born.

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      • “Abuse” in this context is just a physical show of dominance. And frankly, it’s consensual so I wouldn’t even classify it as abuse.

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      • No Amy,
        I’m talking about in the deep past, the paleolithic.
        Sexual violence was the order of the day.
        Women adapted accordingly.

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    • I don’t think it’s the immoral behavior women like so much as what we perceive as courage.

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    • Never underestimate the value people put on having a good time. This guy and Charlie Sheen know how to have fun and people value that A LOT.

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  8. Talk about an abundance mindset

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  9. on October 30, 2013 at 8:53 am RappaccinisDaughter

    You asked whether or not he could be considered attractive, and pronounced yourself unqualified to judge. So I’ll weigh in:

    Not really, from that picture. He’s not a troll or anything, but I wouldn’t look at him twice. Decent chin, good teeth, but a massive fivehead and beady eyes. I walked past five better-looking guys this morning getting my Starfucks.

    p.s., if you want to summon Matt King, I suppose your last paragraph is a politer way than dropping a rosary into an Arizona Ice Tea bottle full of Lean.

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    • Think about how much of a “contextual alpha” he had to be to overcome his average looks

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    • p.s., if you want to summon Matt King, I suppose your last paragraph is a politer way than dropping a rosary into an Arizona Ice Tea bottle full of Lean.

      Duly summoned!

      But I’m not going to slake your (or CH’s) inconsolable curiosity that is the necessary result of your faux-sophisticated nihilism. I’ve said my piece.

      All I have to add is that you deliberately simplify the position in order to deal with it in a simple way. The “afterlife” is not a reward for doing good. This is the transactional mentality of bourgeois shopkeepers burned into middle-class morality like yours. Like a Jèwish merchant, the bourgeois always needs something for something, and sneers at the possibility of freely-given noblesse oblige for nothing in return, the natural overflowing magnanimity of men who have a surplus. Largess is unthinkable to the merchant Hebe; miserly storing away one’s resources (attention, affection, charity, good will) is the only way to live.

      The afterlife is a theological hope, rightly understood. It is not a motivation. It cannot be motivational. If one does good only to be rewarded later, it is not purely good.

      You’re a smart girl. You can grasp this if you try.

      Matt

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      • on October 31, 2013 at 1:26 pm Emperor Theron II

        “O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell,
        and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
        But if I worship You for Your Own sake,
        grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.” — Rabia

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      • on October 31, 2013 at 1:35 pm RappaccinisDaughter

        Oh, but I did try, Matt, and I did it with the help of a small army of very nice, functional, mainstream Presbyterians who were genuinely trying to help me. And it’s not that the exegesis escapes me; I understand it all perfectly well.

        The problem is that, in the absence of provable facts (an intellectual limbo in which all religions, including atheism, must exist), there is only faith. I simply have none. I don’t know why that is; it’s always been that way, as long as I can remember. I recall sitting in church when I couldn’t have been older than four (my sister was a babe in arms, that’s how I know), thinking “Is everybody else in here pretending to believe this, or is it just me?”

        There is nothing you or anyone else human can do to cause me to have faith. Although I’ll cheerfully submit that if there is a god, and it wants to talk to me, I’m pretty sure he/she/it knows how to get in touch in a way I’d understand.

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      • Almost there, honeytits.

        This isn’t about faith, it is about hope (or spes</i), which is a different theological virtue.

        Your problem in this particular instance is a failure of rudimentary logic. An absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.

        God has spoken to you. Through me, through all who have loved you, through conventional religion, and in the scintilla of self-awareness that occasionally alerts you simultaneously to your existence and its eventual snuffing-out.

        If he spoke to you directly, you would be annihilated by definition. You cannot maintain free will in the face of ipsum esse subsistens. Interaction with anything worthy of being called “God” would require your obedience down to the molecule or your destruction, as in the Old Testament sense: no one has ever seen God (John 1); no one has ever seen God and lived (Exodus).

        Which is why God became man, as a way for us who were “made in the image and likeness” to have a plausible frame of reference to the divine.

        Just as your finitude cannot fathom infinity, your mind cannot imagine something created from nothing. And yet here we are, something, existing.

        You haven’t plumbed these questions very deep, and that’s okay. But the presumption is something else entirely. It’s not your failure to believe in God that’s untenable. It’s your active disbelief that marks you as a fool. No, nobody has presented you with a case for God that you can grasp easily; but then, nobody has presented you with an airtight case against it. That you tend toward the certainty of God’s non-existence is as absurd as saying you yourself do not exist, but typical of the mediocre mind marooned in today’s skin-deep culture.

        The wise position is agnosticism — Socrates’s dictum that “all I know is I know nothing — but it is an ignorance that is married to spes. Otherwise you must live the postmodern absurdity, which only works if you remain superficial about these matters.

        But you do not want to remain superficial about the great questions of existence, which forms the curiosity that motivates your mockery. If it weren’t such a nagging mystery, you wouldn’t bring it up, nor would you contradict people like me in the hope of precipitating a satisfying response. You share this trait with CH.

        The truth is, as I mentioned above, you are a shopkeeper’s daughter. You simply do not have the intellectual or moral refinement to converse intelligently about these matters, claims to “understand[ing]” the “exegesis” notwithstanding.

        Fortunately there is a language with which you might investigate them anyway, the language of transaction: the church is for everybody, even the middle-class merchants, so if you have to understand the relationship of God and man like that between proprietor and customer, as quid pro quo, that is good enough to get you there.

        Unfortunately, the postmodern culture has destroyed the possibility of this transactional understanding for lightly informed spiritualists like you — i.e., that you will be rewarded in heaven for your good deeds on earth — leaving you with the default nihilism and despair rather than a delicately maintained hope.

        We all see “through a glass darkly.” Only your bourgeois morality was taken away because philosophes imagined commoners could handle the “darkly” part by rationalizing it (“understanding the exegesis”). So they replaced the hope that gave the middle and lower classes a contented life with an artifice farmers and slutty junior college chicks could not comprehend or integrate into their world, inviting an unprepared mind to gaze into the abyss alone. The result was a “reality” so abjectly frightening that they learned to avoid ever thinking about it, like a monster under the bed who might go away by closing one’s eyes.

        Instead of thinking intelligently about one’s mortality on a periodic basis (at church services), now your type never thinks about it in any systematic and therefore effective way. You have learned to content yourself by running away rather than facing the darkness in communion with your fellow mortals, filling your mind with pretensions of psychological sophistication and vice and distraction.

        I love it when dullards say faith is for impoverished ignoramuses. The truth is, the faith of atheism — the unfounded certainty, the leap in the dark that there must be nothing — is the mark of the lower classes biting off more spiritual and intellectual sophistication than they could chew.

        None of this was a call to your faith. This is a purely logical argument about the spiritual surroundings in which you grew up, and how they fit into a larger conversation you didn’t know your superiors were having.

        Matt

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      • on November 1, 2013 at 8:18 am RappaccinisDaughter

        When did I say I was an atheist? I’m not. Atheism is a religion in and of itself; a matter of belief rather than of certainty. There’s no more evidence that there is no god than that there is one. The reason I haven’t bothered laying my chips down with Pascal is that my lack of faith makes it an exercise in futility. Sure, I could go through the motions…and in fact have done so in the past. But the only effect I’ve noticed is a distinct grouchiness connected to getting up early on a Sunday morning for the dubious pleasure of being bored out of my skull for two hours.

        I know your brand of faith requires that you proselytize, so don’t worry, I ain’t even mad. You tried! Now you can reward yourself with a nice little Christ Cookie.

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      • Aaaand, she blew it.

        I felt like we were nearing a breakthrough there for a moment. (Not really.)

        I didn’t call you an atheist. My words were, “you tend toward the certainty of God’s non-existence.”

        You are better understood as a moral therapeutic deist.

        You are not an agnostic so much as exhibiting a slothful disregard for important abstractions, typical in a you-go-grrl-type broad of this era. With no spiritual guidance from men, you are left to absorb and parrot the prevailing civic religion with all the usual disaffected anomie indicative of the type.

        In other words, you are a bimbo. I can hear the wind whistling through your skull from a mile away. So please don’t flatter yourself by thinking you are worth my “proseltyiz[ing].” I know the percentage success rate of attempting to engage a vacuity.

        Like the other ankle-biters whom I occasionally stoop to engage, I’m not talking to you so much as through you and past you to those who have ears to hear. For a woman you have more than the usual share of intellectual receptors, but alas, a clam is still a clam.

        Matt

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      • Now THAT’S a neg. lol

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      • on November 1, 2013 at 11:26 pm Emperor Theron II

        Let’s try a different approach:

        Case I: There exists an arbitrarily benevolent, arbitrarily powerful entity operating nearby. In this case we should align ourselves with this being as soon as possible.

        Case II: No such entity exists. In this case, we have an engineering problem: we should begin the design and construction of such an entity directly. This process may take a while. Luckily we seem to have been provided with an infinite amount of space and time for this purpose.

        Note that at our level of operation the proper courses of action for Case I and II are basically indistinguishable. If time travel is possible, Case I and II are completely equivalent. Now get to work!

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  10. Moral of the story:

    Be a nice guy and get cheated on and pussy deprived, or be an asshole and women will reward you with sex and then some.
    We have to go beyond notions of what is GOOD and EVIL. What is GOOD is what gets me laid, what is BAD is what prevents me from getting laid.So gentlemen stop using the word EVIL.

    Lesson learned.

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    • We have to go beyond notions of what is GOOD and EVIL. What is GOOD is what gets me laid, what is BAD is what prevents me from getting laid.

      What a shallow, one-dimensional existence.

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    • No the moral of the story is that women will always choose evil when it is presented to them and they are convinced it is good by a smooth talking serpent.

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      • My good man earl.

        I would be the first to back to the old system of monogamy. But feminism doesn’t want it. They destroyed the old system that placed limits on hypergamy. They unleashed female hypergamy onto the world. Today we are dealing with hypergamy on steroids. In the past guys like Porfirio Rubirosa were not the norm, today you can only get some if you behave like Porfirio. Women know these guys are evil, but reward them with sex. Nice guys get rewarded by solitude. Women would use the nice guy to help her move to a new apartment, fix her car or computer. She does not want to have sex with a nice guy and if he dare tries to ask for it, well to a women it proves he really is not a nice guy because he expected sex for doing things for her. If women want to change the world for the better they could reward nice guys and they would not have anything to complain about. But women choose to reward bad boys.

        And let’s not be naive women are not being deceived by bad boys, they know very well what they are getting into. Because bad boys are interesting, bad boys are unpredictable, bad boys are etc……. and nice guys are, well boring to these women.

        So as men we have to adapt,as sad as it is that our civilization is declining we should at least enjoy the decline.

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      • I understand reality. It took me a while. What’s sad is that most men don’t.

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      • And how I understand my reality is while I’m not a bad guy…I’m not a nice guy anymore either.

        I may not get rewarded with sex…but I’m sure not going to give some tart I barely know my protection and provision. She’ll have to earn it…and being my “friend” isn’t going to cut it.

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      • Pretty much. Lessons learned from the Garden that in our very cyclical history are forgotten, relearned, forgotten, relearned, ad nauseaum. You will see some variation of this intrinsic reality throughout many ancient texts from virtually every culture. There is probably a reason for this…

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      • Even those who don’t believe the Bible is an accurate historical document would benefit from reading it. If nothing else, the reader comes away with a PhD-level grasp of human nature.

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      • If horses believed in invisible sky beings,
        They would behave like horses.
        Is it any suprise the gods of the hairless ape act like hairless apes?
        Good thing they are always just beyond the grasp of our senses, above reproach…

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      • If you want money and can Alphatize some broad to get HER money–which she no doubt got from the back breaking labor of her beta male ancestors,and is busy pissing away on clothes,shoes,psychics,trips to India,etc,–that may be a good way to get the dinero you need. But you gotta spend a LOT of time fucking an annoying and not-hot woman to get the do-re-mi. An old Irish saying goes,”He who marrioes for money earns every penny.” maybe he was clobbering these broads not because he’s some James Bond alpha,but because they had screaming fights about him trying to sneak away to get the young pussy when he needed to take care of the OLD pussy.

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    • EVIL backward is LIVE. See the hard work has already been done for us, we just need to start looking.

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  11. Of the MONTH?

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    • A pretty good candidate for AOTCentury.

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      • Howard Hughes begs to differ.

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      • Hughes was a fascinating guy, but not much of an alpha male. He was basically a borderline-Aspergers omega male . . . with a billion dollars in his wallet. A master of “I have more money than God” Game.

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      • Read Howard Hughes: The Untold Story and get back to me on that. Hughes was a legendary slayer of poon. There have been plenty of uber rich on this planet, none has the notch resume of Howard Hughes. He also was a legendary entrepreneur, pilot and filmmaker. Omega? Not so much,

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    • Rubi isn’t Alpha Male of the Month. He is the Alpha Male For All Time — i.e., all competition is for second place, after him — the ultimate Bad Boy. Today’s so-called “bad boys” aren’t even in the same league. He’d laugh at them, and then seduce their wives/girlfriends.

      Read “The Adventurers” by Harold Robbins for Rubi’s biofic. And remember that the truth was even larger than the fiction.

      Rubirosa was also an accomplished pilot and race car driver, as well as a world-class cocksman. Not the worst way to live your life: lots of booze, endless poontang, fast cars, faster aircraft. The ultimate man’s man.

      All these people who quibble with the way he lived his life are simply applying their own sense of morality onto someone who had very little personal morality — which makes as much sense as castigating a lion for being a terrible vegetarian. (Duh!)

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 12:14 pm Lucky White Male

        There’s a story where Rubi was sleeping with Ava Gardner while she was supposedly also with Sinatra

        The two men found themselves at the same house party one night in Europe. It’s possible that Ava – at the time the worlds most beautiful woman, and also a world class attention whore – surreptiously arranged it

        So a showdown between two “Chosens” – Sinatra and Rubi. Keep in mind Sinatra himself, as his valet later said “No man on Earth ever got laid more than Frank Sinatra”

        Sinatra responded by leaving the party early. Possibly he was rattled, possibly only Gardner could get him emotional enough to lose his temper – a beta move at a high society shindig he could ill afford to react as, since he was supposedly an Alpha himself

        Alpha of century – there is a only a handful of men in this category: I’d say this guy, Sinatra, Brando, Jack, JFK, McQueen, Gable

        For some reason the so-called studs of today: Clooney (is he gay? Why the new relationships every 2 yrs as if on contract to keep up appearances), DiCaprio,
        Cruise (gay?) Gere (what’s that story with gerbil up his ass urban legend for years)- these guys seem like girlie men in comparison

        CH doing a public service for the next generation of men

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      • I’m sure the big time male pornstars of the 20th century (and today) have higher counts than all the respectable alpha womanizers combined.

        Are the male pornstars alpha, or are they just bisexual freaks?

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      • Different…those guys aren’t seducing

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      • No work – game – involved in increasing (on-the-job) notch count as a pornstar. The women are provided for you, along with a pay check no less.
        Not entirely comparable, as the male pornstar did at least show some talent – of one kind or another – in landing that job in the first place. but still close enough, If I had fucked 500 prostitutes I also wouldn’t in good conscience be able to include them in my notch count.

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      • Sinatra may simply have been applying the principles discussed in a recent post here about what to do if a woman you’re out with starts paying more attention to another man. Many of the commenters suggested that leaving her there was often the best move to make. Admittedly, we don’t know all the details/context here, but if Ava G really did set him up — a drama queen saying let’s you and him fight — then maybe leaving was indeed the right move.

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      • Ava de-alpha’d Frank and turned him into her bitch. He got his revenge tho as she hit the wall like,well,Porfirio hit that tree!

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    • He is Renegade / Sigma though. There have been many many more historic and classic alphas that have also built empire alongside their harem building.

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  12. … the memories Porfirio carries with him to his afterlife are the same memories that a typical, play-by-the-rules, dutiful beta male who married one woman and bore three kids brings to his afterlife: None.

    You hope.

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    • My Daddygod can beat up your Daddygod. And if your Daddygod picks on my friends, then mine will beat him up. And make you burn in hell, roasting on a spit. So maybe YOU’RE the one hoping, you nasty little superstitious bully.

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  13. Men like this don’t build civilization. For the West to survive, we need healthy families ruled by strong men. Not ugly half-whites that happened to have above-average bedroom stamina. He was ruled by his appetite, a sign of a low-man.

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  14. This is the equivalent of the beautiful girl who’s narcissistic, unfaithful, and/or bat-poop crazy who has men falling all over her. The beautiful girl who tries to be nice, faithful, and (relatively) sane thinks, hmmm….. is there a lesson to be learned here?

    There’s always lessons to be learned by studying the extremes. Actually BEING the extreme is usually not a good idea.

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    • So what are 1.narcissistic, unfaithful, and/or bat-poop crazy? or 2.beautiful girl who tries to be nice, faithful, and (relatively) sane thinks.

      and what’s with “who tries to be nice, faithful and sane,” so this means every girl who was nice faithful and sane was faking it just to be the opposite of what she is?.

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      • I’m saying that for every guy feeling disillusioned that women say they want nice guys but actually go after the Rubirosas, there’s a girl feeling disillusioned that men say they want nice, faithful, sane girls but then go after the crazy, bitchy sluts.

        [CH: no there’s not. this is a classic false equivalence lie by feminists who desperately wish to evade tackling the subject of their sex’s peculiarly malignant desire for badboys. women who love jerks FAR outnumber men who fuck hot numbers and find to their great surprise and dissatisfaction months later that the hottie was a bitch.]

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      • Heartiste, have you ever considered IP bans for all presently active female commenters on this site?

        [CH: I hate to be a meanie (heh) but they really don’t add very much value, do they? A woman’s saving grace in non-visual mediums is her ability to flirt, and most of them who comment here don’t even have a grasp of that basic function.]

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      • At least ban the windbag Lily…

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      • ” there’s a girl feeling disillusioned that men say they want nice, faithful, sane girls but then go after the crazy, bitchy sluts.”
        All else being equal a vast majority of men would choose the “nice, faithful, sane” girl over the slut.

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    • I was asking what are in those characteristics.

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      • Amy, do you think a man really cares or bothers about the characteristics of girls before he feels attracted to her? Or do you think that of two equally hot women, a man would choose the slut over the nice girl for marriage? Because if you do, you haven’t been listening to anything we’ve all said at all.

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  15. I liked it when his wife “sent him for cigarettes” and he hooked up with a woman and didn’t come back for 3 days. THAT is exactly what you do when a woman thinks she “controls” you – show clearly that you are “tame” only as long as you want to be and there are always younger fillies who are ready, willing, and able to keep you happy.

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    • Well, she bought him, right? Doris Duke was one of the richest women of that time, but she was promiscuous and no raging beauty. She used her money to buy a little plaything and she expected him to obey. Yuck! Who wants that dynamic?

      That’s the part that’s unattractive and un-alpha to me, despite his occasional fits of rebellion.

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    • Shit test blown to shit.

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  16. Good, good.

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    • I must confess I am not even remotely impressed by the quality of woman in the photo above. If all the chicks he was banging looked like that, well then there’s hardly anything to be impressed by here.

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      • exactly

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      • The JOKE is that we live in the modern age,and just as we can own an iPad,which is something unthinkable in Rubi’s day,and drive cars that are probably better than his race cars,we can bang women who are BETTER than what HE got!! 99% of young women were not available to this lil 1/2 coon(no offemnse thwack) but they are available to us. So get out there and get them hotties !theyre waiting….

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      • As far as average female beauty is concerned, I goat disagree. The sheer number of land whales around pulls the average way, WAY down.

        But if you are talking about the hot women who are willing to give their pussies for free, then I agree. That has gone up monumentally.

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  17. Lol everyone assuming he’s some asshole that everyone hated…he was the life of the party and the ONLY dudes there that hate him are the wallflower betas saying “see..what does she even see in HIM?” A guy doesn’t network the way he did without being really, really entertaining and playing all the right notes in social settings. He had plenty to BS about with the crowd, racecars, airplanes, travel, polo horses, who fuckin knows. We all know a guy sort of like this, one who can talk to a fence post. You can bet this guy had 10-20 people around him at a swanky party telling everyone about the time he was in a major shootout this time he had to deliver jewels with a gut busting witty punchline.

    Even mentioning or debating something like “oh yea well I bet he never had any REAL friends.” really shows the the struggle among the readers here, kill your inner beta and ACCEPT this natural lived the life you can only dream of but to do so, you have to be OK with it and don’t try to knock his long-dead ego down a peg to boost yours. You think he gave a flying FUUUUUCK if people genuinely adored him or not? Proof is in the pudding…he had a broad harem throwing themselves and their money at him and he always got invited somewhere.

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  18. Great story. It illustrates why women need good men to lead them.

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    • A good man is hard to find. . .mostly because most women don’t want good men. But it’s irrelevant; you’re either born basically good or born basically bad. Rewards and punishment and even converse actions won’t change what you really are inside.

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    • Swap good with great.

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  19. Moral of the story: Work that pussy like it owes you money and you may just get some money from your efforts — and you’ll get it quicker with a big dick.

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    • Is there Small Dick Game? “Pasquale Espinoza was known as the ultimate Latin Lover ,as he squired an endless trail of beautiful,sexy and wealthy women.His lovers whispered of his incredible technique and his supposed “small dick”…”

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  20. I would enjoy it if CH made a post about a “good guy” alpha. The kind I think many more of the guests here aspire to.

    As the gist of what a lot of commenters are getting at is, the guy lived a happy life by doing what he wanted. This, is tantamount to being a man.

    I get the impression however, that many guests on this board wouldn’t mind a more conservative lifestyle. Find a girl from a less overtly sexual community/culture, enjoy making and raising a family (plenty of men enjoy this, seemingly much more than women even, and this blog is all about men getting what they want), and using the correct calibration of game to keep your wife from becoming a bitching, cheating whore.

    Although I’m sure other manosphere regions of the net may pander to the type of lifestyle I described above, I would like to see CH’s take on how this could be pulled off, any notable figures, stories, etc…

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    • Related question. I have pretty much that. I’m 33, have a 23-year old, 8.5/9, submissive, sweet, religious wife. It’s a nice life. She’s a great cook, she loves being sexed, etc. Helps that I make $300k and have good alpha credibility based both on current hand and my prior single life.

      But I do miss the variety. A lot. We’ve been married 2 years. If I cheated and she knew, she would take it very, very hard. Might end the marriage, would definitely be loads of unwanted drama. And I hate the idea of hurting her. And I want kids, for whom she’ll be an excellent mother. On the other hand, the itch is tough.

      Any thoughts on (a) getting away with it, or (b) making it acceptable over time if done in a dignified way, JFK style? Obviously I know to keep it far from my home, so that’s not really an insight.

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      • Ordinarily, you could slowly introduce the idea of threesomes – and she could latch on to the idea like it was her’s – but she sounds too religious for that…

        You have any business travel to other continents?

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      • Sounds like you did it right, except that you put a ring on it.

        The trick is to establish the no commitment precedent from the beginning. I have most everything you have, my first child is due in February. The mother and I will not be married and if I get an itch , I can scratch it. I wont go back to her bragging about it , but I wont hide or deny it either.

        In your situation it will be difficult , if not impossible, to get her to accept your dalliances, the precedent you’ve proffered is one of commitment and monogamy. Scratching your itches now will be costly , especially if don’t have a rock-solid prenup.

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      • It’s cool, she’ll go along with it because she knows you can leave the relationship if she doesn’t.

        …oh wait, you gave up the ability to leave the relationship, basically the one power play you have as a man, by marrying her.

        Have her put on wigs, get your fix thru porn, or cheat behind her back like a weasel and hope it doesn’t break her heart and you don’t lose half your $ and pay alimony the rest of your life.

        Don’t get married people, srsly lol

        (I know this wasn’t helpful, I’m just making a point for the guys who are considering marriage. In all seriousness, it’s very easy to go from an open relationship to a monogamous one because that’s a sign that she’s winning you over and winning your commitment, but it’s VERY difficult to go from monogamy to open because she’ll interpret it as there being something lacking in the relationship that wasn’t lacking before, or that you’re getting bored with her or that in some way she’s losing you…so you’re kind of shit out of luck unless you don’t mind risking a divorce over pitching the idea of “I get to go out and fuck other women while you sit at home worrying about whether I’m going to come home or not”)

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      • I hate myself for giving you advice on this, but if you’re going to do it you might as well do everything you can to avoid hurting your wife.

        You should have a separate cellphone for this. Ideally it’s a prepaid, password protected and looks exactly like your work cell. If you go out of town a lot, that’s the best place to cheat. The safest way, which is maybe not the dignified way, is to limit your encounters to one night stands or short term relationships and not give your full or real name. If your wife does your laundry or takes in your dry cleaning, watch out for perfume and have the girl wipe off the makeup before you get started.

        Avoid long term relationships, not just because of the drama and strings, but because if you do get caught…. for most women it will hurt (a little) less if the infidelity is about sex instead of love. We have some understanding that men can have sex without emotion, so if you cheat we’d rather hear it was a meaningless ONS rather than a long term extramarital affair with a woman you care about. And if you try to tell us you don’t care about a woman you’ve been seeing for a while, we won’t believe you.

        And of course the obvious- always use condoms.

        We all have to live in reality. As a woman who dates desireable men, I know not to snoop. But I expect to be protected from certain things. Your wife deserves the protection of not knowing about any of this. You can give that to her by being smart and careful.

        Disclaimer for the “all women are soulless whores” crowd: No, I’m not condoning cheating. I don’t cheat. I hope no one cheats. I don’t think all men cheat.

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      • Do not even think of mentioning this idea to her. Once you do, whether you act on it or not her radar will be on high alert at all times. Especially given the religious nature. If you want to slice it off on the side, do it discreetly and infrequently. That has been my MO in LTRs and has served me pretty well. Although, if you are w/ a 23 yo 9 she really should be able to scratch that itch herself in my mind.

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    • Sadly, there’s no such thing as a “good guy” alpha. Or maybe there is a type which qualifies: Bill Gates, Audie Murphy (although he also scored in the 4 digits), Ike (with the occasional dalliance), Paul Newman (but a socialist)… the list is short, and has many caveats.

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      • Bill Gates??? I assume you are blind and therefore have never seen a picture of Melissa??

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      • Melinda has aged really badly, but back in 1994 (when they got married), she was a somewhat cute, former sorority girl.

        With wedding makeup, probably a 7/10.

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      • It’s Melinda. She’s not bad, actually. She’s apparently almost 50 now and he’s almost 60. She was probably never a babe by any means, but I imagine she was totally bangable when they got married. And she’s been a loyal wife for 20 years and raised three children.

        I don’t know much about Bill, but he’s almost certainly beta (when it comes to women).

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    • OK, go have a look at Mitt Romney’s family pics, possibly taken with a wide eye lens. That’s the sort of family man you want to be. Apart from alpha qualities like leadership, he seems to be a standup guy too. There you go, emulate and prosper.

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      • Really? His kids were not socially accepted at all outside of the Mormon fraternity. Know them personally. Very beta offspring.

        And I wouldn’t mind his as prez over the current one.

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      • From what you say, it sounds like Mitt should let the smaller trees have some light too.

        But then alpha men often have beta kids, don’t they? And I assume his kids haven’t gone through the school of hard knocks and alpha focks we do over here, so they probably live the blue pill, mormon edition.

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      • as most mormons are.

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      • He’s not a Chateau style alpha. Maybe a “leader of men” alpha, but that’s not what we’re talking about on this site.

        As Heartiste has pointed out multiple times before, having children has nothing to do with being alpha. A hardcore beta might have five kids; Rubirosa had zero.

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      • Well, Pat wanted a good guy family man alpha as a contrast to our more fascinating Rubirosa.

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      • Family man alpha…look to their leader. Brigham Young took multiple wives, literally captured swaths of land through aggression and cunning, and his “frame” is accepted by millions of followers. A family man alpha indeed.

        Brigham Young had 55 wives.Just look at the ages of these women at marriage:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Brigham_Young's_wives

        Brigham Young fathered a legacy of stability. Rubi not so much.

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      • Patriarch game-

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    • Good guy alpha… Feynman, perhaps?

      If by good guy, you mean some sort of saint, then forget it. A highly altruistic person is too compassionate (i.e. too much of a pussy) to be alpha. I don’t think you have to be sociopathic to be alpha, but you can’t have a bleeding heart either.

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      • Pretty wide range of personalities between “saint” and “not an asshole”.

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      • on October 30, 2013 at 12:19 pm Lucky White Male

        No such thing as a ‘Good Guy Alpha’

        O U T!

        Where is GBFM!

        OUT!

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      • Yeesh. Some of you are socially retarded. In the context of the article and after preceeding comments, what do you think I meant by “good guy”.

        But I concede maybe some redefinition.

        If even 1% of men were to act like this, society would be… interesting. I find it rather hypocritical when CH makes racial/cultural marks about success vs failure of societies, and then procedes to present the worst sort of scummy shit pile that could be belched for the advancement of the human race.

        Not hatin, just communicatin. I understand the education that can be derived by looking to extremes, but seeing the peak of the mountain is a hell of a lot more motivating for me.

        I think many of us lacked good male role models growing up, and it would be nice to see an example of a famous, strong man. Infidelity imo is fine if your a man, but that other sneaky shits lame as fuck. Doing shit like that would make me feel like a bitch.

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      • i developed a new manosphere moniker for Pat and the other whiteknights on this thread:

        shit I forgot.

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    • Good guy to whom? I view Mitt Romney as a “good guy,” but others see him as a snake. That may just be a label people put on you to keep you in check. If you go far with women, not many people will ever see you as a good guy, and women drive men to evil they would otherwise not invovle themselves with.

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      • Exactly. Morality has no place in these discussions. Morality is subjective.

        This as much a truth for the betas and women who moralize against men who capitalize on an abundance of reproductive options as it is for the whiners on this comment forum who label women expressing a “natural immorality” in their mate choices and behavior in general.

        The girls are just following a reproductive and physiological strategy. Morality has nothing to do with it. Men who are losing in the SMP are probably the ones who are most likely to moralize that women are evil. That bias is the only thing takes the mind off the pain of losing in the arena of reproductive competition.

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    • Most of the good guy alphas are white jocks; mosty in the NFL like Brady or Manning. They’re naturally alpha, but have their baser traits kept in check by high discipline, being a role model to boys, and usually a Christian background.

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    • if the guests are aspiring to that, then they aren’t learning or listening. merely hiding from reality.

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    • “Good guy” alpha?! – don’t know if this would help, but, I married a trust-fund baby, who also took care of immigration, raised mine and my family’s (parents) social stature, brought me in connection with pretty important celebrities and has overall been extremely good to and for me. And yet, makes the bed, does laundry, cooks food, takes care of the baby, pretty much domesticated.

      My game? – I don’t know, but this is what I often hear, “you don’t love me”, “talk to me”, “spend time with me” — you get the gist.

      From whatever little experience I have, I’d say, marry the one who loves you and not the other way around. Love, beauty is fleeting and dies with time. Money grows. CH had an earlier post about that sinking feeling. I’ve had those in past relationships. Experienced it, and decided what not to do in selecting a wife. I took an average-looking as opposed to a hottie, domestic instead of a party-girl/attorney/workaholic, sensible instead of shallow, rich instead of ummm just middle-class, only child instead of a bunch of snickering siblings trying to get their hands on their father’s wealth, who loved me instead of being a good ‘catch’ and still does, for a wife.

      Know yourself first. I couldn’t handle a 8 or above for a wife and I don’t have any notions of ever-lasting love. They are high maintenance. And given that the whole political, social system is all for them, I played it safe on my terms.

      Don’t know if this helped.

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    • Pat, right? Why not call the Prophet Mohammad alpha of the month at this point?

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  21. on October 30, 2013 at 10:30 am Cad and Bounder

    I fear that this sort of story is going into inexorable decline thanks to feminist influence. I know we all want to believe that ‘alpha conquers all’ , and its a truism that it always makes a marginal benefit, but lets remember one thing.

    The social pressure on women to get married and have kids or at least try is massively reduced now, thanks to feminist dogma and the hypergamy hamster run wild. It is now socially acceptable, in fact encouraged, for a wealthy woman to stay single, and hold out for their hypergamy hotshot.

    In this regard, I always reference the three Karls. Marx, Jung and Stockhausen all married very wealthy women. All of them achieved greatness (for the record I don’t support the politics of any of these men) while being supported by their wives. There must be countless other examples of these sorts of outcomes in history, and we are losing them thanks to feminist cuntery.

    BTW, Zsa Zsa Gabor obviously liked cads because, stylistically at least, George Sanders was one of the greats. His voice alone could impregnate most women.

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  22. “But if he had finally found a girl who could tame him, it was too late. In 1965, after drinking all night at the nightclub Jimmy’s in celebration of a polo win, Rubi drove home at 7am and crashed his Ferrari into a tree. The steering column crushed his chest and he died on the way to hospital.

    He was 56. He had lived and died fast. After nearly four decades of partying, he had little to show for his life. He had never had children — despite his virility, he was sterile — and had spent all the money he acquired.”

    So he had a misfortunate death and didn’t provide anything of value to society. Just like every other hardcore lifelong playboy.

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    • And we’re the supposed “betas” for seeing the obvious futility of living one’s life in orbit around your next orgasm…

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      • Worshiping the pussy and orgasms only brought me pain in the end…and I know it does for players too because you always hear about “the burnout”. Even the so called alphas have their weaknesses they like to shove down, reword, or never show.

        I’ll call it like I see it…you are either a sigma or beta.

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      • Have you noticed a recent trend toward asceticism among manosphere writers? Perhaps they’re learning that there’s more to life than ejaculating in random holes.

        Watch ’em and see if they seriously turn toward the monastic life as a sort of secular religion. Betcha they follow that dead-end road all the way, too.

        Ecclesiastes, all over again.

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      • Over simplification

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  23. More detailed profile:

    http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2002/11/porfirio-rubirosa-200211

    “You have to remember that in the 1950s,” says Taki, “it was much more of a man’s world. You went to a men’s club, you played sports with just men. Women weren’t taken as seriously, and you didn’t see them during the day. They were more for night, as sex objects.”

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    • >>“We never spoke about girls,” says Claude Terrail, the owner of the four-star restaurant La Tour d’Argent in Paris and one of Rubi’s closest friends. “He was a gentleman, and a gentleman who has a lot of success with girls keeps his big mouth shut. Never speak about what happened. Everyone should learn that lesson.”<<

      Never kiss and tell, which is my motto. I knew I had it right.

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    • on October 30, 2013 at 12:51 pm Lucky White Male

      Taki is a Last of the Mohicans old school player

      In his current columns he often talks about his latest conquests and “assignations” , a Married Man to boot

      He refers to his wife as ” the mother of my children” Read: he wont restrict his natural love of other women for anyone, let alone his wife

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  24. Brigham Young did better.

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  25. ”And on that account, Porfirio lived a hell of a lot more than the niceguy office drone who rejoiced when his chubby wife relented and gave him a birthday BJ.”

    I think you’re wrong. A guy who marries his dream girl is probably a lot happier than some ”alpha” who bedded thousand whores.

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    • lol

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    • A guy who marries his dream girl, eh? Translation, a guy who marries a girl 2+ points above him in raw physical SMV is probably happier than an alpha who banged several chicks who are within a point of himself either way.

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  26. I always thought 5″8 was just ‘below average’ height not short, considering the U.S average is between 5’9 and 5’10 for males.

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  27. He sounds like a hot shot, dare devil type. He was also probably fun to be around. This is probably why women liked him.

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  28. I’d never heard of him and after reading this here, I googled more info. One article stated that he was a man’s man, most men enjoyed hanging out with him. The ones that didn’t like him were usually jealous. I guess size isn’t the only thing that matters to a woman since alot of bullets and such are smaller than average, but a large shlong to a woman is like a woman with a large chest to a man. Maybe not a necessity, but it’s just more visually appealing to a woman plus gets the job done.
    Now guys, your not going to say “she’d look better with smaller titties” are you?

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  29. He’s ugly (yet well groomed), short, and isn’t the richest guy in the room (yet socially intelligent); yet usually the prettiest woman is talking to him. Sounds a lot like me.

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  30. Gosh darnit, they don’t dig them because of the jerkiness. They dig the strength and strong sense of boundaries. A guy with a different set of boundaries just as strong would get the same tingles. It’s no accident that church women swoon for the passionate, upright pastor — he gives off that same strength.

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    • I’ve never met a pastor who did not have a certain type of jerkiness about him, Scray. He’s the Executive type who makes things happen. His boundaries are his own despite using God as the excuse to become everything he wants to become in the context of his choosing.

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      • I just think we’re using the term ‘jerkiness’ too loosely, then. These people have boundaries, and they won’t compromise those boundaries — but their behaviors are never necessarily ‘jerkish.’

        Let’s say there’s a guy who has a boundary of ‘no one makes fun of my nose.’ Is there anything wrong with that boundary, from a moral standpoint? I don’t think so.

        So let’s say someone makes fun of his nose, and the guy says ‘fuck you’ then walks off. Is he being ‘jerky?’ Not at all. Are girls going to like that behavior? Ya, probably.

        The fine line between that and butthurt insecurity is if you linger around and say ‘fuck you’ but then try to qualify yourself or your reaction to whoever said it. That’s when you get AMOG’d. Even just standing there and saying ‘fuck you,’ in a firm tone, without more, is way better.

        I’m sure men around would try to social pressure you and be like ‘wow you’re being a dick.’ Here’s the translation: you’re challenging my dominance, I’m feeling weak right now. You aren’t being a dick. You’re holding your frame and refusing to take shit.

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      • That’s hardly an AMOG. That’s an opportunity to find out more about the person who is jealous of you and possibly make him your friend. I would ask him, “So why do you care so much about my thinning hair?”–instead of nose, because it’s always my hair they reach for. But I know the hair doesn’t matter, it’s their own insecurities of possibly being the one without the hair. They are the weak one, but you don’t have to cut right into them. I like to feel good and find new experiences, and I don’t really care about controlling anyone except in a sexual sense with a girl I want.

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      • Here’s the problem with that: I get that approach, but for a second imagine it is something that you ACTUALLY care about. Congruency is king. Sitting there and making nice about it is just going to make you look like more of an idiot. Pretending like you don’t care or ‘why you care so much about my X’ nicechat isn’t the answer unless it’s something you honestly don’t give two shits about.

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      • Ultimately, you always have to behave in accordance with how you feel. Why? Over time, I think that all the areas and situations where you lack charisma will become better — you’ll start gaining more and more experience, and so you’ll just feel less flustered naturally.

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      • Ok well something I care about would be the girl. If he grabs her ass. That’s easy, I’ll just kick him in the balls or grab the girl and get the fuck out of there. I really don’t care about most stupid shit, and yes people around me think I should, but when I don’t react like I “should,” people see it’s not really that important.

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      • Too tell you the truth, I really hate to get pissed off, because I almost have no shutoff valve until I break the law in some way. I think it’s better for me not to get pissed of and to shake everything off as a joke until it isn’t. I’m either cold or hot, I really don’t do well with the AMOG banter back and forth, though I will employ it to some degree to gain social dominance, but when push comes to shove; everybody already knows who the top do is anyway, so it’s almost not worth the effort of pretending you can kick 15 dudes asses at once.

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      • Well I never said ‘get pissed off.’ That’s the difference. You’re not getting angry. You’re being firm. Like the ‘fuck you’ isn’t a yelled or enraged statement. It’s just like ‘go fuck yourself, have some respect.’ And then that’s that.

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      • hush child.

        men talking.

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    • Also, this whole ‘he’s ugly’ thing is kind of ridiculous. Let me break it down — the guy has a masculine face and the guy also has low bodyfat. That = good-looking.

      Being a fat piece of shit hurts so many guys, and science seems to support this fact: http://www.businessinsider.com/body-fat-linked-to-male-attractiveness-and-immune-system-2012-11

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      • Women are not visual like men. But yes they are attracted more visually to the “masculine form.” Would like to see a study on this.

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      • Women are visual, just not to the same degree as men. Also, myriad other factors come into a women’s evaluation of a man’s attractiveness as a sex partner and as a boyfriend/husband. For men, looks are all that matter for sex, and still the predominant factor when looking for a serious relationship.

        Given the choice, I’d rather be an unattractive alpha than a handsome beta. But neither is going to do as well as the handsome alpha. Good looks are neither necessary nor sufficient for success with women, but they’re quite helpful. When a “hot guy” opens girls, he doesn’t even have to bother building attraction; all he has to do is avoid acting beta.

        That being said, perhaps the primary reason really good looking men are successful with women is that they also tend to be alpha. I think their superior looks lead to a spiral of success. When they’re young, they have an easier time with girls than most of their peers, and this leads to an abundance mentality and organic game development.

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    • Chicks like jerks, and LOVE psychos…..make no mistake kiddo.

      you come over like a deep beta who is learning quickly but having a tough time believing your eyes.

      for all intents and purposes I would say my personality is psychopathic, sadistic, and borderline cruel and uncaring of any experience but my own.

      and when I grabbed (well, more massaged) the married girls ass at the halloween party last saturday night in FRONT OF HER HUSBAND, she not only didn’t care, but went up to the girl i brought and rationalized it to her that I was drunk and must have got the two confused.

      then she told my girl “thank you”.

      that was a dick move, but what it triggers is pure survival instinct with no philosophical pretext.

      you (and every shiny new kid) should spend some time studying the Tao and Taoism in depth. ancient Chinese inner game. valuable.

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    • “they don’t dig them because of the jerkiness. They dig the strength and strong sense of boundaries.”

      “I’m sure men around would try to social pressure you and be like ‘wow you’re being a dick.’ Here’s the translation: you’re challenging my dominance, I’m feeling weak right now. You aren’t being a dick. You’re holding your frame and refusing to take shit.”

      This. 100%.

      Sadly, these days we are socially conditioned to believe that having boundaries and enforcing them is “jerkish” behavior, when really it’s just refusing to bend your principles despite the social pressure to do so. When you hold your frame, that’s attractive to women…their shit-tests are simply them trying to see if a silly little girl can make you uproot your principles and change your values, because if you crack under the pressure of some chick you don’t even know, how the fuck are you going to stand up to the rest of the world when shit gets real?

      More on having, establishing, and enforcing boundaries here:

      http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/8/#comment-heartiste-463871

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  31. For example. Was in court today. Everybody looked down, so I turned everything positive with the lady I sat beside. Now I have a new contact to use at the time of my choosing; and she had a great time in court of all places. That is how you do it.

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  32. What is more important in life? Freedom or money?

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    • rarely is money freedom btw.

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      • Says the broke ass dude… Money opens -many- doors that would otherwise remain sealed and closed. So money can net you some freedom, but the inverse is never true. I do take your overall meaning though. I know some ‘wealthy’ guys that literally have killed themselves to reach high places. They are saddled with bills, kids, etc. and though they can buy anything at their whim, they have no freedom in any real sense. But… they can get to Tahiti for a month where the broke cad will only get there if he can pull a Rubi and get it paid for by his trick.

        But my question is, who would want such an existence? I’d like to also have some merit and value of my own w/o having to always try and sucker my next mark. The combination approach seems best.

        I have a friend who is Rubi writ small. The dude lives in Baltimore and despite having a fairly shite job he pulls women that you simply cannot imagine. He has women buying him all kinds of shit and financing him more or less. He is 30 and I routinely see him bangin’ out hot teenage girls effortlessly. He then has his twentysomething and thirtysomething girls finance his lifestyle of cheating on them with high school seniors and freshman college girls.

        He is basically a scum bag. And some day I think his shit is going to dry up and then what? He is a user with few friends who don’t know him for what he truly is. The men that can tolerate him are basically men he knows not to fuck with or con, like moi. I’m envious of his ability to slay teenage poon instantly but what will he be doing in ten years, or twenty? I doubt it will be that.

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      • one of your paragraphs to one of my words. think it over.

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      • One of my highly enlightened and astute paragraphs would take you a week to formulate, think of, redact, edit, and finally pen. I do that shit on my coffee break son. Being proud of being an inarticulate simpleton with no ability to elucidate a point is not a fucking life strategy, just FYI.

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      • extra words to compensate for a lack of a functioning philosophy isn’t brains. it a defense mechanism against what you don’t understand.

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      • on October 31, 2013 at 11:09 am Money is indeed freedom

        Yours wasn’t well written either the guy wrote that mainstream accepted idea that rarely is money freedom and then you wrote 1000 words that had 0 contents.

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    • Depends on which life you are talking about.

      The exterior life, money. The interior life, freedom.

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    • on October 31, 2013 at 10:35 am gunslingergregi

      without money you can lose your freedom pretty fucking quick

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  33. Re: No Chilluns
    .
    We know not if / how many of his less-of-media-darlings lovers chose to be discreet about his brood. Europe of 40s and 50s was much more discreet about those things than 2013 USofA. Even moreso 1930s Latin America.
    .
    To my meager knowledge of the hamster, given the strong emotions he obviously stirred in women, it seems highly unlikely that all fetuses he sired were aborted…

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  34. Indeed, women are stupid.

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  35. One of 3 billion (or is it 4 billion) hamsters sez:
    And if a man ever lays a hand on me, I better see him as tougher than I am, or he’s going to regret it dearly.

    That would be a beating woth administering. Seeing delusions fly out of hamster, one by one, blow by blow. The sex afterwards would be amazing, too.

    Hamster made a funny!

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    • It’s funny to me because all the men in my family are notorious women beater-beaters. I hate seeing a women hurt by a man (push or a slap is not what I mean), but it’s funny that it turns women on anyway.

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      • It doesn’t turn us on. If Rubirosa was really the type of man, high quality women like, my guess is he didn’t hit women often. It’s very possible, once this woman found out about his cheating, she started hitting him.

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      • Not often. Ha. Gotta go .

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      • It doesn’t turn us on.

        Of course it doesn’t. Just like cocky assholes, womanizers, and psychopaths are totally unattractive to you. All women (except for crazy whores, of course) really desire a sensitive nice guy who brings them flowers. That’s why this site exists, to teach men how to be nicer so that we can achieve the dream of lifetime monogamy.

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      • Holy strawman, batman. You’re completely missing her point. But hey, thanks for playing.

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      • Anon— stop nigga… a caring, loving, FINANCIALLY SOUND, pro-tek-tah is what we want. That “confidence” which is attractive to all XX vag. Confidence means— ability to call you out instantly on your shrieking harpy demands, not respecting your feeeeeeeelllllings and unnnnnhappppiiiinesssss. Telling you that you are being absurd, you are entitled, and to shut the fuck up before I choke you out and then go fuck another girl who doesn’t have your issues.

        Like Lara said— What I described above NO WOMAN WANTS. They always know what they want, and always have. Be respectful at all times. Always be concerned about emotions and feelings. Always realize that they are the weaker sex, God’s lesser beings. They are always loving and caring and soft and cuddly. They cannot, will not, and have never done any wrong.

        Disregard all evidence to the contrary provided by The Bible, The Qu’ran, The Torah, and any Great Books for Men. These are lies of the patriarchy…

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      • That’s not confidence, that’s arrogance. Ultimately it will get you more success because it’s closer to confidence than being passive, but high quality women — who are healthy and emotionally stable — dig confidence. Confidence, in the arena of relationships, is the ability to act on your own beliefs and principles without fear of losing her. So, it’s not about disrespect or telling people you’ll choke them out. It’s more like ‘I demand these things and if these aren’t met, I’m out.’

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      • “Confidence, in the arena of relationships, is the ability to act on your own beliefs and principles without fear of losing her. So, it’s not about disrespect or telling people you’ll choke them out. It’s more like ‘I demand these things and if these aren’t met, I’m out.’”

        This.

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      • Now being late in the evening and have a few drinks in me I’d love to turn you on. If you lived anywhere near DC I’d be more than willing to entertain your delusion. You would assume the moral high ground and draw a clear line in the sand about disgusting barbarism from an age of patriarchy and misogynism. Around that same moment, I’d flick open a 3 inch blade (LEGAL IN ALMOST ALL STATES!!!) against your likely soft and supple feminine throat. What is your play then??? Only a few options then, innit?

        1) Scream, call for help– it really doesn’t turn me oooooonnnnnnnn. Blade returns to safe places. People intervene— Are you ok?! What happened? Me-“I know, I just came out on this first date and experienced this craziness! Maybe post traumatic stress disorder from an attempted rape? I too generally hate men… I attend take back the night rallies because of this very thing that happens. Disgusting!!!” (Whispered to you— Next time, we will be MUCH farther away from any city, and your body can be dumped in the woods)

        2) We are away from society and civilization. I’m sorry I fucked that other girl but… she was hot. Ok keep hitting me, your blows are great to me. Your tears are delicious… cry MOAR.

        3) Totally premeditated– Spice Navigator style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg ‘I want you to kill all Alpha Predator men who are currently resisting. Surely you mean Duke Beta Atreidies?? No, I mean Paul Atriedes– I did not say this, I am not here…’ Spoken like any true http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apparatchik despite some horrific mutation where a mouth turns into a pussy.

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      • …wtf did I just read?

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      • ok you nutty fuck. that was awesome up until the Dune reference.

        Scalzi is that you?!?

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  36. Your implied point above also stays, if there would be more alpha men around society, our resident hamster may have the privilege of receiving the needed correction. The alphas remaining among us, however, have much better things to do.

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  37. […] [Alpha Of The Month: Porfirio Rubirosa] […]

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  38. What about when a guy shit tests a woman?

    I throw out tests all the fucking time. They catch on and get SO PISSED, like, how dare YOU test meeee!!111

    As whorefinder correctly stated a few months back, I do have quite the feminine hamster lol

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  39. Another interesting figure; Grigorji Potemkin, he was Elisabeth the great’s lover and ran the Russian empire with the empress while bedding probably thousands of women and he wasn’t even born into the higher classes of Russian society.

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  40. “So sad. And yet, the memories Porfirio carries with him to his afterlife are the same memories that a typical, play-by-the-rules, dutiful beta male who married one woman and bore three kids brings to his afterlife: None.”

    You’d better hope that’s true.

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  41. Most of the alphas I’ve met have higher personal moral standards than betas.

    I’ve noticed this trend a lot with the puerarchy guys. The “alpha” is the man’s man who lifts weights, stays in shape, speaks three languages, knows how to juggle chainsaws, etc., and possesses a fortune he earned through being a powerful business leader, and so on. The true “alpha” has strong character and a well-developed sense of honor.

    The thing is, gentlemen, we want to fuck chicks, not other dudes. I think the Manosphere is mostly a front for the MGTOW movement, and muscular manly men getting high smelling their own testosterone-enhanced farts while they congratulate each other on what truly manly men they are, and allow their dessicated dicks to go dry.

    Sorry, gentlemen, I want to fuck chicks. The less I give a shit about what kind of shape I’m in and the more I behave like a selfish, malevolent sociopath, the better success I have with chicks; my intended victims. If you think I’m a sleaze, who gives a shit? I don’t want to fuck YOU.

    Indeed, thinking of them as victims and embracing the whole evil mindset is getting me everywhere that working out and being relatively wealthy never did.

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  42. on October 30, 2013 at 6:20 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    Heartiste, just take a look at this gem.

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  43. on October 30, 2013 at 7:38 pm troll with big hairy balls

    “life goes on without me”

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    • Horrible… DLR looks today like an Egyptian Mummy that didn’t learn to die elegantly in a prior age. Your support of him speaks the same about you. Bullet + purpose = virtue. Your life is forfeit in the long run. So set an example that doesn’t require anyone to venerate 4 decade old men who refuse to die. Remember what I said, YOU unlike DLR can die tonight— start the trend and make history….

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      • on November 2, 2013 at 11:09 am troll with big hairy balls

        LOL… meds run out?

        Why comment on this article when DLR does it for me more eloquently? Just a Gigolo was written in the 50’s and DLR covered. My primary critique of the “heartiste” lifestyle is that you are a poorly compensated gigolo.

        The “ladies game” gets tiring past adolescence. The drama, dead end relationships, abortions, nutty women, emptiness, broken hearts… To paraphrase CS Lewis, sex is more complicated than you think.

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  44. Anytime I read about a man who lived like this, I think about the quote from that great football coach, Tom Landry. When asked what it took to be a good football coach, he responded:
    “It takes a special kind of man to be a great football coach. He has to be smart enough to understand the game and dumb enough to think its important.”

    I suspect this guy despised himself, despised his women, and had no respect for anything. Great life. His death may have been suicide (pure speculation.)

    However, his life sheds light on the character of women, and men. Take heed.

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  45. The Marquis de Sade wrote several short novels making these same points. Most especially, “Justine” around the turn of the 19th century. The interesting thing is that his targets for instruction were always Convent Raised young Innocent Virgins. In his version of reality, he had them routinely despoiled, degraded, and defeated in their earnest striving towards finding – or at least keeping -their honor&virtue. Along parallel tracks, other De Sade characters won money, power, and satisfaction by being amoral courtesans (if not outright pimps themselves.)
    I made a careful study of the Marquis, indendently, during my 2nd year at University. I was driven to do this by my deep feel for fairness and my towering drive to know the Truth. My conclusion was that we was a misunderstood visionary that was in fact guilty of every crime he was ever accused off.
    He was miss-understood and vilified. I tend to identify with that sort(for a variety of reasons)(Actually, he was worse by far than anyone guessed at the time.)

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  46. Am I the only one who looked at the woman in the picture with him and thought “Honoria Glossop!”

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  47. No coincidence the very last sentence written contains the word hell. Take heed indeed

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  48. […] We learn what to emulate from the successes of alpha male womanizers as much as we learn what to avoid from the failures of beta male saps.  […]

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  49. Well atleast i share some physical and moral traits with him, I am very much happy to read about my future today at Ch but I don’t like the concluding part of it. He is like myself in the mirror,

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  50. All that and rumoured to be a political assassin.

    International diplomat, polo player, racing driver, jewel thief… Killer.

    There you have the final piece of the puzzle. I swear to fuck I’m getting gina tingles just reading about this guy, no wonder he got the broads frothing at the gash.

    Great post, CH, cheers.

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  51. on October 31, 2013 at 4:26 am Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

    Meanwhile, more evidence that Lesbians aare at the bleeding edge of proving the fact that, in any healthy relationship…. there’s ==always== one who’s the Top and the other who is the Bottom.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/29/surname-gay-marriage_n_4173458.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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  52. At its core, “alpha” is a state of mind that occurs when a man finally understands his purpose in life.

    If you have the will, the ability comes will come naturally; but it doesn’t work the other way around.

    Look at Neo in the Matrix; despite all of his training and ability, until he understood WHY, i.e, his purpose, he couldn’t beat an Agent; and it had nothing to do with his training.

    Once he knew WHY he was there, he came up with moves and techniques no computer had ever considered.

    And thats why they worked.

    This is the connection between n166ers and computers; when asked the question:

    “what can you do?”

    They both provide the same answer:

    “I can do what you tell/want me to do.”

    (((shakin my head)))

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  53. […] Personally, I don’t see it. But then I’m no ‘mo, so most men look ugly to me. I suppose if you… […]

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  54. Left no genetic legacy. Lived to please women, instead of seducing women to please him. Sounds kind of effeminate. Not alpha.

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    • on October 31, 2013 at 9:14 am gunslingergregi

      in a way yea I snap my fingers and my bitch lights me a cig
      but i’m sure he had them jumping through hoops

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    • Allegedly.

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    • Lived to please women??? lolololzzz…Some of you guys on here, he got airplanes and sportscars from women, holiday homes, etc. He left one of em for 3 days without a word to play around with another. Are you delusional? Did you even read it? WHO CARES ABOUT GENETIC LEGACY…not like you guys are passing on a throne and castle

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  55. on October 31, 2013 at 9:12 am gunslingergregi

    Porfirio lived a hell of a lot more than the niceguy office drone who rejoiced when his chubby wife relented and gave him a birthday BJ.”””””””””””’

    god dam

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  56. on October 31, 2013 at 9:18 am gunslingergregi

    and on that note bout to go get my name tattooed on the exchicks face and trampstamped
    neck on one side already there face on other side
    he he he

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  57. Famous? Check
    Private Jet Level Filthy Rich? Check
    Good-looking in a Clooney way? Check
    Personality within normal bounds? Check
    Average height for his time? Check

    This guy had it fucking made,
    now compare him to David Spade,
    who also gets ass like drops of rain

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  58. lol alpha troll of the month?

    http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2013/10/dear_prudence_a_cute_guy_at_work_flirted_with_me_just_to_make_fun_of_me.single.html

    Dear Prudence,
    A few months ago at work a young, handsome intern started talking to me. He was flirtatious and would act thrilled to see me. He would do this when other people were around, even other supervisors. I admit that I was flattered, but I’m a divorced woman 20 years his senior and in a relationship, so I didn’t take it seriously. All I did to respond to him was smile and exchange small talk. I recently found out that he isn’t flirting, he is making a joke of me. I was told by a friend that he was talking about me at an event in front of other employees, including a supervisor, and they were all having a laugh at my expense. This also explains the times when I would walk into the cafeteria and this intern and some co-workers would start smirking at me and cracking up. I am a bit overweight and not all that attractive, so perhaps this makes me a good target. He’s continuing his overtures and I simply respond “Hello” with a flat smile and go on my way. My friend told me to beware because she was afraid that this young man might get me into trouble. I am concerned that he could file a complaint against me and I don’t know what to do. How should I handle this situation?

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    • How upsetting, a man playing with women’s feelings. All I can think is WOW just WOW 🙂 I mean when a women does it she at least calls the guy her friend. You know a guy that does things for her and she just strings him along better known as beta male. Gives him a tiny bit of affection now and then just so he can fix the computer maybe help with moving or do her homework for her. But this guy thinks he play with women’s feelings and get away with that, somebody should punish that MAN. A REAL man would not do that. Is there a real man that could save a damsel in distress. Anybody. Any white knights around. Anybody. Where have all the good men gone. O….hmmmm……maybe feminism killed the nice guy.

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  59. Rubirosa died early in the morning on July 5, 1965, when he crashed his Ferrari 250 GT into a chestnut tree after an all-night celebration at the Paris nightclub “Jimmy’s” in honor of winning the Coupe de France polo cup

    A truly alpha death.

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    • But theres more: “As his car swerved off the road he struck and killed a poor crippled child who had been sleeping in the woods after running away from home.” SO alpha!

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  60. In the afterlife, the only thing that matters is boring beta had three kids to propagate his genes while alpha cad had none and his genetic line ended.

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    • Yes, exactly. Rubi produced no kids, so, in terms of leaving his mark on the world, he was no more successful than a loser who spent his whole life in his mother’s basement and never spoke to a girl.

      Rubi enjoyed life, but is that the measure of a man? Ultimately, Rubi was just a worthless, selfish playboy who took far more than he gave. If there’s any justice in the cosmos, he would burn in hell along with his mentor Rafael Trujillo.

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    • Who cares about legacy…if you’re a AFC chump with a fat wife and questioning the “meaning of it all” in your man cave at 42 then that’s no achievement, if anything you just doomed your spawn to a miserable life always thinking “what if” as well. Big deal.

      If anything, THAT’S selfishness…not being confident in knowing what it is to be a man before bringing one into the world. Look at all these young boys who are an embarrassment to their family name.

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  61. What you don’t understand, CH, is that there is no “cosmic tally.” You’re caught in a game chasing synthetic cheese to merely boost your ego. That’s it. You’ll likely never be able to comprehend this. It doesn’t matter, because nothing matters in the end. but your ego could be swelling from true knowledge instead of this bullshit synthetic pussy cheese you ‘teach’ guys how to eat.

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  62. I’m upset with the fact hot women would have sex with him KNOWING his history. It’s wrong. Men like this detract from society. They do not invent innovate build or create.

    I’m upset about this.

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  63. never heard of ‘im

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  64. […] The life and death of Porfirio Rubirosa. Named by Heartiste as “Alpha of the Month.” […]

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  65. Sorry dude but he was a nigger…you can tell..

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  66. yep both him and Trujillo were niggers…..typical niggers

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