Gaming Asian Girls

An anonymous reader with yellow fever emails:

Dear Chateau,

I was reading your post about when not to use game (game = no no for 4s and under) when I remembered seeing about two posts with a herb and its asian girlfriend.

Would you say that one shouldn’t use game on Asians?

Or would what I thought might be a pattern, be a small coincidence that means nothing whatsoever?

First, a clarification. The necessity of game is less a function of the race or absolute beauty ranking of the girl you are gaming than it is a function of the girl’s self-perceived ranking relative to your ranking, and of the amount of times (and how recently) in her life she has been hit on by men. So a princessified American 4 who fancies herself a 6 will require gaming if you are a 6, but will need little gaming if you are an 8. A 2 will need game if you are a 3, but not if you are a 7. A 6 who has been hit on by thousands of horny men because she lives in a city with a skewed sex ratio will not only require game to get in her pants, but will demand it, and this will be true for all men except those at the very highest rank.

Note that since women date up, in practice most girls will require game. Few men will be of sufficiently higher ranking than the women they meet to afford a pickup strategy that eschews game. The only real world cases that come to mind of men who don’t need any game are high social status semi-famous guys who consistently shoot low. A male 9 (within his milieu) is not going to need game if he makes it a habit of seducing only 5s and 6s. In fact, game will actually hurt his chances with low hanging pussy fruit. But once that male 9 starts aiming for female 8s and 9s, he’s going to find out the limits of his pickup prowess very quickly. 8s and 9s won’t tolerate much beta behavior from any man, even male 9s and 10s.

The point is moot, since no sane man with a discriminating penis would bother putting the work in to seduce 4s and under. The dirty little secret is that the ugly among us — the 4s and lower — pretty much hook up by catalytic reaction, involving lots of liquor, desperation, low impulse control and vision impairment.

You would think that Asians (well, Asian-Americans at any rate), being a race of women reputedly more materialistic and pragmatic in disposition than white or black women and thus given to assigning higher value to beta patronage, would respond favorably to straight up traditional courtship, but this is a myth. While Asian chicks in general are choosier about when, how much, and to whom to dispense their goodies, they love game just as much as any broad with a working vagina. The difference between seducing Asian chicks and women of other races is one of degree rather than kind.

Furthermore, and in support of the general thesis, let the record show that the hotter the Asian girl the harder you will have to game her. Hot chicks are the same everywhere — their stock is high and they know it. I remember going on a date with an Asian 8.5 thinking it would be a cakewalk (because of the dynamic I note below), only to discover that my lackadaisical non-game cost me a second date with her. The buddy who introduced me to her later remarked that I “hadn’t teased her enough”. I don’t date many Asians (they don’t enthrall me like they do the typical white herb) so that failure was a learning experience. The next Asian girl I met I gamed the shit out of — as hard as I would any sluttastic white chick. I think I even called her “dragon lady”, though she was born in America. We ended up in bed on the second date, her finger finding its way into my arsehole during sex. (Asian girls are fascinated by the anus.)

There is one glaring refinement to the above generalization, and that is the white man-Asian girl dynamic. For HBD-related reasons beyond the scope of this blog post, the white man who isn’t a complete loser can score typical Asian chicks in the 5 to 7 range with relative ease. This is not true for any other interracial match-up. Even black guys have to tone down their natural assertiveness and run a tamer version of direct game to get with white chicks of any value. (Note: Disgustingly sloppy, fat, Walmartian white whales do not qualify as having “any value”. Size, shape, color and texture must resemble the gracile antelope grazers rather than the lumbering megafauna.)

Thus we see the phenomenon of white herbs focusing like laser beams on every semi-cute Asian chick within their field of operation. Every man alive will take the pussy path of least resistance when it is available, and this rule is no different for lumpy white herbs and their starstruck Asian groupies. But the Asian girls who are 8s and above are still off-limits to the herbs.

PS: I’ve been noticing a lot more white man-black woman couples lately. Based on looks alone, the men were a mixed bag. Many of the black girls were attractive, and they were of varying skin hues, from creamy mocha to purple black. More than a few of the women looked like African immigrants. One thing all the black girls of these interracial couples had in common: they were slender. Not a fatass in the bunch.

Perhaps this points to a trend of some white men getting fed up with the entitlement complexes of white women and sacrificing their natural attraction for white girl features for the… better attitudes of black girls.





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  1. If I see a white man with a black woman I know he has game.

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  2. I like the term “Walmartian” and expect to see it used more often.

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  3. “Asian girls are fascinated by the anus.)”

    lol!!!! Really?

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  4. “While Asian chicks in general are choosier about when, how much, and to whom to dispense their goodies,”

    True.

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  5. “Perhaps this points to a trend of some white men getting fed up with the entitlement complexes of white women and sacrificing their natural attraction for white girl features for the… better attitudes of black girls.”

    Does race play that large a role in physical attraction?

    I assume a hot girl is a hot girl regardless of her being black, white or yellow.

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  6. The dirty little secret is that the ugly among us — the 4s and lower — pretty much hook up by catalytic reaction, involving lots of liquor, desperation, low impulse control and vision impairment.

    Genius!
    Yeah, I think there is a preference out there in AF’s for WM’s but any hot asian chick is going to be hit on just as much as other hot girls.
    FWIW, for the non-herbs out there who prefer petite brunettes, AF’s are a no-brainer, not a desire for some sort of mythical subservience.

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  7. Your generalization that Asian chicks of 7 or 8 can be easily won by 4-5 white nerd is questionable. Moreover, your two statements are contradictory….Asian women are choosy about distributing their goodies and they can be easily gotten…

    I doubt about your knowledge of Asian people. You may be good in European, black, but no doubt you are ill-informed about Asian women.

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  8. Most of the Asian women do not prefer anal sex, how can you say they are obsessed with it. You seem to be talking about blacks..

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  9. lawyerjourno: You’re a lawyer? For real? Either you haven’t had your morning coffee yet or you got your diploma from a crackerjack box. That’s some pretty sad reading comprehension.

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  10. on September 28, 2010 at 9:21 am Ari Hinkelberger

    Unless she is really hot and skinny – Asian chicks don’t do it for me. If the chick is from the Pacific Rim she has to be slammin hot for me to contemplate risking my cherished ego.

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  11. I hope the guys in the PS are ok with the herpes.

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  12. To get an asian girl, the guy hast to be-

    1] white (no asians or darkies)
    2] be able to fog a mirror (alive)
    3] servile, but with good income (preferable middle-class or above).

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  13. Shit, if it wasn’t for Asian chicks, lots of white nerds would never get laid or married. LOL! White women can be major cunts.

    +1 for immigration!

    As for white guy/black girl pairings, I don’t see too many of them. When I do, the black chick is usually a “white washed” type of black woman.

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  14. Perhaps this points to a trend of some white men getting fed up with the entitlement complexes of white women and sacrificing their natural attraction for white girl features for the… better attitudes of black girls.

    Definitely.
    Most black chicks are truly not wrapped up in that annoying self-perpetuating materialistic/status-driven facade. Black chicks tend to be “real” which is a refreshing change of pace after wallowing in the superficialities of the dating cesspool for any amount of time. And black chicks appreciate and eat up Game better than women of other races.

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  15. on September 28, 2010 at 9:46 am almost 40 year old virgin

    Megafauna!

    I actually LoLed.

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  16. “Perhaps this points to a trend of some white men getting fed up with the entitlement complexes of white women and sacrificing their natural attraction for white girl features for the… better attitudes of black girls.”

    I don’t know about this.

    Most black chicks seem to have annoying attitudes, at least the ghetto ones do.

    I don’t see those ghetto black chicks date anyone but black guys…nor do I imagine anyone but black guys would want date those ghetto black chicks.

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  17. Ghetto broads in any color are trash.

    I’m talking about the normal, living-their-life, working, responsible black chicks.

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  18. Note that gaming Asian chicks in Asia is not the same as gaming them here.

    The same woman in Asia will have a nearly completely different behavior set when transplanted here.

    Expectations and requirements and flexibility within these all change. Sometimes pretty radically.

    And Asian chicks aren’t into more anal play than any others – maybe less.

    RC is off his horse on that point.

    As a final point, you’ve got to distinguish between the Japanese who go overseas and everyone else. Also, the Chinese from smaller towns tend to be easier to game if you offer the prospect of a LTR; big-city girls are just as likely to jump into bed with guys with strong game as big city girls anywhere.

    One rule for gaming Asian chicks if you want the most attractive:

    Don’t be black.*

    * There’s a significant subset of Asian women, especially the Japanese, who have a fetish for black men (American are preferred). They’re seen as Bad Boys and sexual animals. There are fewer of these in the general Asian population than there are among white women; there are more of them in Japan, where there’s frankly more of everything in general, than anywhere else in Asia.

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  19. The view from behind is a terrible thing
    An abomination with a Dew to swill
    Not the body of a girl from earth
    Not the face of the one you love, ’cause

    Well, she turned into Walmartian
    Woah oh oh
    I can’t even recall her name
    Woah oh oh
    I would rather fap my wang all night
    Woah oh oh
    Well, she turned into Walmartian today

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  20. This really needs to be broken down further. The last 9 out of 10 girls I’ve slept with have been Asian, inculding one engagement. I call it “Asian Appreciation” in response to my friends constant chiding about having yellow fever.

    The difficulty ranking of gaming Asian girls really depends on what country/region they are from.
    Koreans, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese (include Singaporeans here, as well) are considered “Traditional Asians” by many standards. Meaning, that they are harder to game. As bad as it may sound, the truth is that the darker the Asian, the easier she usually is to bed. The lighter the skin, the harder to bed. In these cultures, dark skin means ‘working class out in the fields’.

    Filipinos, Thai, Malaysian…are the easiest to fuck.

    The traditional Asian cultures are so sexually repressed, that their shit shields are up from birth..almost naturally. No laughing out loud, no smiling or looking you directly in the eye for more than .3 seconds.
    Roissy brings up a good point here about American born Asians. While they are different from the FOBs (Fresh of the Boat), their parents still have traditional values that have been instilled.
    The bright side of gaming traditional Asians….they really do prefer non-Asian men. Also, they are usually very good when you do get them in bed, it’s like an explosion of released tension/emotion that comes out in the best ways. No, they don’t squeak like the Japanese porn AV girls do.
    The downside of these girls is that they are extremely materialistic (Koreans = worst), and will judge you on your income (usually). Game must be run on these girls, but overgaming will kill it as they will wilt away in shyness. The extra game (teasing is HUGE with them) will pay off.

    As a white male, I have an advantage over Asian men. Many of these girls that were born here in the US were abused mentally/physically buy their Fathers. The wives get it, too. These women see white men as being nice and caring. They don’t want to be with their Fathers. Another obvious cue is how many of her friends are white compared to Asian.

    This was a little all over the place, but just wanted to expand.

    -P

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  21. I have had some experience with Asian-american chicks, and has anybody else noticed that they are less passionate? My Asian girlfriend was pretty easy to get into bed, but did not seem to surrender to her passion like a white chick does when she finally lets go.

    In my experience, Asian-american girls have less of a sex drive, and as the editor notes, are more in control of their sexual decision-making.

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  22. @Sidewinder,

    I don’t know as much about Asian-American women; the women in NE Asia are as liable as any to go insane for good sex, including unbelievably bad decisions made in the heat of the moment and desperate devotion, as women anywhere.

    Lots of white women are the same as detached, materialistic Asian women – the same percentage, I suspect. You just expect Asian women to show this behavior more so you see it more readily.

    There are no end of white women who are as cold and calculating as any Asian woman.

    The difference is in specific subsets. Shanghai girls, for example, will tool men with a cold, icy calculating viciousness like women nowhere else; but fuck them properly, and they become jelly like any other woman (admittedly, jelly with the ability to retaliate without moral compunction – be warned).

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  23. Wow you fuckers dont know Asians.

    2 Rules:
    ———-

    -They want to humiliate Dad, by letting white guy fuck them
    -They love Money.

    Now on to fine points:

    Asian Men treat Women like shit; worse than Hasidics, and Taliban.

    [Even in Uber-modern Japan; they never rise above Tea girls. This is why japans economy has had the lost decade, zombie-economy. When 50% of your work force is doing nothing, you suck.]

    So, when you treat them well they view it as too good to be true, throws them off, or just as un-manly.

    I have seen this in NYC as 50% of Finance guys, can only get Asian chicks, and in short order their income is going to 20+ Hermes bags, badly decorated NJ mc mansions, and trips home with offerings/tribute of $20K Cognac in mahoghany presentation box, Rolex, and cash.

    Fucking points:

    -Asians make super nasty hi-pitched squeaking noises when fucking (worse than Spanish bitches AAAAAyyyyy, AYYY); so get prepared for neighbors to hate on you.

    -Asian women age like bananas; they all look like Mammason at chinese restaurant/korean deli. Name one hot Asian celebrity over 35? None.

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  24. Asian chicks love game. They invented it and are masters of it.

    They are masters of push-pull. They are amazingly attentive and then aloof.

    As for responding to game. I’ve been practicing it with amazing results.

    Two weeks ago I f-closed hot Indonesian hotel sales rep at the hotel I was staying at just by simply following the Mystery Method, ramping up kino, going in for the kiss, switching locations and banging her hard.

    Then come the shit tests… but they know they’re shit tests and if you succumb to them, you’re immediately boffed to the FriendZone.

    If you resist, push-pull, aloof, then attentive, Beta Provider game… Asian chicks will melt in your hot little hands.

    Even before discovering game I was doing ok. Game only increased the hottness of the chicks I can now meet and bang.

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  25. @Sidewinder
    “Asian-american girls have less of a sex drive,”

    Perhaps is your lack of experience with Asian girls. You may not be aware of the intricacies in making Asian girls tingle.

    “and as the editor notes, are more in control of their sexual decision-making.”

    This perhaps is true and that’s precisely what contributes to the challenges of gaming an Asian girl.

    It’s not that simple to covet the “Mysteries of The Orient!. ha!

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  26. Several points;

    1. I lived in Korea working on a international law project for a year, Korean women are (from my experience) fanatic lovers.

    2. They don’t age like bananas, they just hit the wall very hard, they hold better than white women then lose all value overnight.

    3. Is getting a finger up the arsehole beta? I think it may be, however salad-tossing is cool. It’s more degrading, and in no way imulates a weiner going in the pooper.

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  27. Is getting a finger in the ass beta?? You sound like those fucking retarded black guys who think fucking a girl in the ass is “homo”. Fucking dumbest shit ever.

    Homosexuality means you are attracted to men, not that you like it in the ass. Everyone likes it in the ass, homophobe.

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  28. “Better attitudes of the black girls…” lol I’m assuming you are joking. I live in the South so there is more chances for interracial dating down here and being in a college town it is doubly so. You are absolutely correct about the dynamic. Most white guy/black girl couples tend to be hipster/collegey couples with the black girl slender and fully African or distinctly upper middle class to wealthy. Almost all black guy/white girl couples tend to be fat troll white girl, horrible teeth and white trash white girl, or the super slut club girl with daddy issues. The black male in question can be from almost any circle in these cases.

    It’s basically the same reality at work here that people do not discuss in public. White men are almost universally not attracted to black females except in rare circumstances and white girls who now what status (low) level they are on will basically date any man who can help with their self esteem. This is not a racial rant, it’s just years of observation and the personal tastes of everyone I’ve known.

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  29. Oh and Pilate to each his own, but anything going on near a man’s anus during sex is simply wasting time better spent on the good stuff and is a tad effeminate (sp?) . Just because something is degrading does not make it alpha or awesome.

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  30. @Silver Fox

    Silver Fox, your experience is really biased.

    Not mine at all, and most of 3 years I spent in Asia with Asian women.

    I wonder why your experience doesn’t agree with mine, at all.

    Maybe you’re treated differently. Maybe not. I don’t know.


    Wow you fuckers dont know Asians.

    2 Rules:
    ———-

    -They want to humiliate Dad, by letting white guy fuck them
    -They love Money.

    All women love money. Only about 30% of Asian women love money. More Koreans than anyone else. But game work on them just as well if you want to sleep with them.

    Money only counts for LTRs, and that’s when they hold out sex. So there’s no point, anyway.

    Dad?

    What’s that?

    Now on to fine points:

    Asian Men treat Women like shit; worse than Hasidics, and Taliban.

    One thing: Korean men are worse in bed than most Westerners. Usual complaint. And more selfish.

    [Even in Uber-modern Japan; they never rise above Tea girls. This is why japans economy has had the lost decade, zombie-economy. When 50% of your work force is doing nothing, you suck.]

    I call bullshit on your emphasis.

    This is true in theme, but not in specifics. Your experience seems a decade or probably more out of date. It’s not 1910; it’s only about 30 years behind, 50 in some industries.

    Korea has some pretty powerful women. And while it’s more traditional than anywhere in the West, it’s not the slaughterhouse for female careers that you make it sound like.

    China: Lots of powerful women. Communism made female equality a massively important goal. Most liberated place in Asia for women, bar none, with the possible exception of HK (also part of China, now) and Singapore.

    Taiwan is still pretty traditional, moreso than China.

    Tons of female engineers, lawyers (such as they are), professionals and career-women in China, especially in the big cities. Women are expected to work, especially those of the middle-aspiring classes.

    So, when you treat them well they view it as too good to be true, throws them off, or just as un-manly.

    Again, not really.

    Are we experiencing the same Asia?

    I have seen this in NYC as 50% of Finance guys, can only get Asian chicks, and in short order their income is going to 20+ Hermes bags, badly decorated NJ mc mansions, and trips home with offerings/tribute of $20K Cognac in mahoghany presentation box, Rolex, and cash.

    Asian-American chicks?

    Maybe you’re not seeing an Asian thing.

    Maybe you’re seeing guys with only one kind of game: Money : and this is being used to acquire their women.

    Therefore, they need to spend, as they have no game.

    And Asian women are more interested in Beta-Providers (to be sure), and have more self-reserve when it comes to holding out for the right guy: That’s cultural.

    The Asian-Americans I know fuck like mink just like other American women. One or two generations removed and all that Asian reserve is gone.

    And those Asian girls are just as entitled as any American woman, because by that point, that’s all they are.

    Fucking points:

    -Asians make super nasty hi-pitched squeaking noises when fucking (worse than Spanish bitches AAAAAyyyyy, AYYY); so get prepared for neighbors to hate on you.

    I’ve bedded way more Asian women than you.

    They don’t make noises like this. Maybe Japanese porn stars and prostitutes from gonzo porn.

    No Chinese chicks do this. Korean women are as likely to mount you and hold you down as be submissive.

    I call complete bullshit on this one.

    Asian women age like bananas; they all look like Mammason at chinese restaurant/korean deli. Name one hot Asian celebrity over 35? None.

    How much time do you spend in Asia?

    Lots of fucking hot Asian celebrities over 35. Tons of them. Actually, millions.

    The ones who were hot before 35 are several points hotter than their aging Western equivalents.

    I’m not talking old Korean ajummas here; I mean the hot older women on TV and in movies and general celebrities.

    Sorry, dude – I call super bullshit on this.

    I’ve spent much of the last 5 years in Asia, and I can guarantee you know nothing about actual, real-life Asian women.

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  31. This Asian thing bring up a important point about game, race, ethnic populations….

    Gaming by population #s
    ——————————–

    Curious if any of you look at population#s in game.

    It seems like a basic fact that can massively skew your results.

    If you are white, and you are gaming white chicks…would you have massively different results in LA/OC with 65% white pop. v. NYC or DC w. 35% white pop.

    Some will argue that good game, only needs one girl.

    Well, that would be very true, if mating was 100% logical, efficient, and rational.

    As we know its 100% random, irrational, and not in best interests of any party, as the 50+% divorce rate proves daily.

    Other will argue, the law of large #s will smooth out any differences. Again this is not true. I see hot blondes working at Bumba Gump in OC who would not hold a similar job in NYC/DC (ie, why Hooters in NYC are so bad)

    Smart, guys will argue there are that many more white guys as competition too. That doesnt work either, b/c males have a natural limit on partners, u cant bang 3 girls per night; so those extra 9-10s are available…where in other metros they would be be black/hispanic.

    So, roissy you often quote CDC data, statistical data mining, and such…..what say You?

    Is your game 50% off b/c you are in a skewed populatation?

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  32. Asian do hit the wall “overnight” but they still look better than their American counterparts. Most white American women look absolutely horrendous after 40.

    The only white women I see aging well are French women.

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  33. @Dalton
    This really needs to be broken down further. The last 9 out of 10 girls I’ve slept with have been Asian, inculding one engagement. I call it “Asian Appreciation” in response to my friends constant chiding about having yellow fever.

    If you’re living in Asia, there’s not much to do about it: There’s so damned much hot female, and no fat chicks, that you can’t get over the whole No Fat Chicks thing. The proper, pre-1950 proportions in the US are back in play over here.

    Which means a massively large segment of the female population is 6-8. Vastly bigger than the same proportion in the States.

    And then throw in the absolute numbers and the availability and the advantage you have as a white guy with an education – and Kabang, it’s what the States are supposed to be.

    It’s not out of all proportion – you still need game, you still can’t be a complete dick (unless you want that kind of chick), and being fit and smart and well-dressed helps a bunch; but you find you’re scoring the hot Asian chicks the Asian guys want but can’t have, and this is the level you *should* be easily scoring at home. And you can’t – because the numbers and the entitlement attitude are just against you.

    The difficulty ranking of gaming Asian girls really depends on what country/region they are from.
    Koreans, Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese (include Singaporeans here, as well) are considered “Traditional Asians” by many standards. Meaning, that they are harder to game.

    No, this isn’t true at all. It just means that there are fewer profoundly stupid females as there are elsewhere. And fewer feminists. But banter/negs/push-pull works just as well as anywhere else. No real difference.

    Try doing it in the target’s own language and it works properly. That might be where you’re off.

    As bad as it may sound, the truth is that the darker the Asian, the easier she usually is to bed. The lighter the skin, the harder to bed. In these cultures, dark skin means ‘working class out in the fields’.

    The darker the woman (SE Asia), the easier to get her clothes off – true. Also, the less likely they are to have money. Philippines.

    But the more disgusting the cultures get. The more you’re just buying them with game or money. The closer it gets to real prostitution.


    Filipinos, Thai, Malaysian…are the easiest to fuck.

    Philippinas – easiest. Least rewarding.

    Get pregnant if you smile at them. Don’t go near.

    The traditional Asian cultures are so sexually repressed, that their shit shields are up from birth..almost naturally.

    Defy them directly and women melt.

    Go up to a Chinese woman and game her and then say – come to my hotel. You’ll be shocked out of your mind how many just go – women who might otherwise look like prudes.

    And they fuck like wild animals when you do this.

    Again, maybe you’re too timid.

    No laughing out loud, no smiling or looking you directly in the eye for more than .3 seconds.

    Different Asian women from the ones I meet, especially in Korea. You need to tailor your game, and learn the language, and then it works exactly like anywhere else.

    Roissy brings up a good point here about American born Asians. While they are different from the FOBs (Fresh of the Boat), their parents still have traditional values that have been instilled.

    In this, you may have a point. I don’t know.

    The bright side of gaming traditional Asians….they really do prefer non-Asian men.

    WRONG.

    They prefer WHITE men.

    Indian/Black – only as fetishes. Indian mostly no.

    Also, they are usually very good when you do get them in bed, it’s like an explosion of released tension/emotion that comes out in the best ways. No, they don’t squeak like the Japanese porn AV girls do.

    This is precisely true. Asian women are generally much better in bed when you lead them. More skilled, more creative, more playful, more sexual overall when they’re being given what they want.

    MORE prone to using sex to control you – and the shit tests are out the yin yang.

    You need major navigational skills for the endless and mind-numbing shit tests that make white women feel like children.

    The downside of these girls is that they are extremely materialistic (Koreans = worst),</I.

    Yes. But if you just want to fuck them, they don't give a shit about you except that you are interesting and can fuck properly, because Korean men can't.

    and will judge you on your income (usually).

    Only for marriage.

    Game must be run on these girls, but overgaming will kill it as they will wilt away in shyness. The extra game (teasing is HUGE with them) will pay off.

    You’re right:

    TEASING is everything.

    Text teasing game is a requisite. Makes it like cutting butter with a chainsaw.

    As a white male, I have an advantage over Asian men. Many of these girls that were born here in the US were abused mentally/physically buy their Fathers. The wives get it, too. These women see white men as being nice and caring. They don’t want to be with their Fathers. Another obvious cue is how many of her friends are white compared to Asian.

    Yet another advantage. And one that Indian/Black men won’t have.

    This was a little all over the place, but just wanted to expand.

    Did you game girls IN Asia, out of curiosity?

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  34. on September 28, 2010 at 12:03 pm gunslingergregi

    I only had one asian chick try to put her finger in my ass.
    Must just be mostly in movies.

    Speaking of fingers in asses though.

    Have your bitch rid you in reverse head facing your feet stick your finger in her ass and you can feel your own dick

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  35. “Better attitudes of black girls”?? LOL

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  36. One last post as it is my day off.

    Silver Fox you are either trolling or are a little bit retarded. Your points are limited and made up and can be easily dismissed. Allow me:

    “Wow you fuckers dont know Asians.”
    2 Rules:
    -They want to humiliate Dad, by letting white guy fuck them
    -They love Money.”

    Aside from boring generalizations, this is sadly your only non-completely ridiculous statement. Some women of all races do things to piss off daddy and show me any group of females who DON’T love money? You say us fuckers don’t know Asians, but I’m getting a vibe that you herbed it out once and she ripped your face off and now it’s time to vent.

    “Now on to fine points:
    Asian Men treat Women like shit; worse than Hasidics, and Taliban.”

    By standards of our princesses here, a feminist might’ve said that exact line. Asian men think of themselves as superior to the women, but also their protectors and caregivers. They expect respect, obedience, and loyalty, and to always put up a classy face in public. Sounds like an alpha males paradise except without all the game. As for your moronic throw out Middle Eastern sounding names to make your point, I don’t really see Japanese men stoning women in the streets or doing honor killing for dating your dumb ass.

    “[Even in Uber-modern Japan; they never rise above Tea girls. This is why japans economy has had the lost decade, zombie-economy. When 50% of your work force is doing nothing, you suck.]”

    This by far would tell me that you are in the third grade
    if it were not for the fact that as stated above you clearly were burned by an Asian 4 and it’s eating you alive. Tea girls? Do you really think no Japanese women work? lol. The killer though is the assertion that when your country’s women don’t work the ecomony sucks. I nearly feel over. Look at the US economy before 1970 and where it is now. Discounting a blip during the tech bubble (and even then we were lagging), both mother and father have to work just to make ends meet. Before 1970 a man could easily support his whole family on one wage. Do you really think our economy is awesome now with more women in the workforce than men? Simply supply and demand. More workers = less real wages that need to be paid to acquire labor. Couple this with children running around without a strong mother at home and you get the idea. I could go on but I don’t think you can read.

    “So, when you treat them well they view it as too good to be true, throws them off, or just as un-manly. I have seen this in NYC as 50% of Finance guys, can only get Asian chicks, and in short order their income is going to 20+ Hermes bags, badly decorated NJ mc mansions, and trips home with offerings/tribute of $20K Cognac in mahoghany presentation box, Rolex, and cash.”

    Ok so you are saying if you herb it up and lavish a chick with unearned gifts and agree to give her family money, that bad things will happen. Utter genius! Unfortunately this is true for every female on the planet and any guy over 16 knows this.

    “Fucking points:
    -Asians make super nasty hi-pitched squeaking noises when fucking (worse than Spanish bitches AAAAAyyyyy, AYYY); so get prepared for neighbors to hate on you.”

    Wow. Have you ever actually had sex with a woman?

    “-Asian women age like bananas; they all look like Mammason at chinese restaurant/korean deli. Name one hot Asian celebrity over 35? None.”

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0453746/

    Epic fail.

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  37. Does race play that large a role in physical attraction?

    I assume a hot girl is a hot girl regardless of her being black, white or yellow.

    I agree. The proportion of hotties out of girls of each race may vary but all levels of beauty are represented among all the major races.

    Notably, there is much more variance in ways of being ugly between the races than in the ways of being beaufitul. Ugly African, ugly Asian and ugly European women tend to look very different from each other whereas beauty is rather similar everywhere.

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  38. The reason is difficult to win an 8, 9, 10 Asian girl is because the challenge allows them to weed out the losers. They value persistence, endurance, ability to be consistent and strength of the mind.

    If you can ride the roars of the turbulent waves like an experienced surfer we will come out victorious!

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  39. unless your talkin about Southeast Asian your wasting your time.
    If you have blonde hair and blue eyes (and game) you will smash a lot of them. Then again I don’t live in DC.. Thank god.
    Cambodian, Loas, thia, Veitnamese…. ya I love where I’m from.

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  40. I think what should be a mandotory read for guys exploring interracial relationships or hook ups is Roosh’s post on the Totem pole of Racial attractiveness in the US and most countries, that post is so money. From his personal experience he puts white/westerners at the top and asexual minorties like asians and Indian guys at the bottom, for the women he puts black at the bottom fo the list.

    For eg: I am an average looking 5’7” Indian (guy from India). I have to put in a lot more effort in to gaming white blonde girls than say a Black girl..I get IOIs or verbal interests from black girls all the time…All I need to do is just be present, and a lot of them are skinny/hot.

    So I am trying to say is its all relative, what works for Roissy might not work for reader in this case, given the guys race and the extent to which the asian holds up white people on a pedestal. A general rule of thumb, if you think the girl perceives herself as higher value then run game on her irrespective of race.

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  41. They don’t squeal like chipmunks??!!11!? Awww, shucks!

    At least they are teases. I can live with that. 🙂

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  42. @Morsellaux,

    “They don’t squeal like chipmunks??!!11!? Awww, shucks!”

    lol!!!! There are plenty in Stanley Park, right? hahah!! For you picking!! lol!!!

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  43. asian girls are 90% cute, petite, soft, and little nymph minx’s in the sack – can be both wild and submissive depending on the girl. and no hair on their body. Take a white chick, no matter how good she looks, she could be one of those hairy ones, you will never get that with an asian chick. They do not need to shave their legs dudes. They have no hair on them.
    Here, a 6 asian is equivalant to 8-9 white girl. And in Vancouver they’re’s a ton of them. An 8-10 asian girl here will require money and/or gangster game.
    The only problem you have with asian girls here, is their family. One point i heard above, if she’s trying to piss off daddy, its easy to bed them – but most that i’ve been with are extremely close to their families, requires a bit more game as asian girls are even more socially concious of how they’re perceived as white girls.

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  44. I honestly think the white man black woman thing is because of Obama more than anything else. I’ve definitely observed it, in my own life and in others. I’m all for it, as educated black women are much more pleasant than white ones of equivalent pulchritude. Come to think of it, the dumb ones ain’t bad either, as long as they’re thin, they seem to have decent attitudes.

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  45. on September 28, 2010 at 1:31 pm gunslingergregi

    And even if well especially if they are a walking cliche you can laugh at them and they got to laugh to.

    Just entertainment value alone it is worth it.

    Just don’t take em serious.

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  46. I honestly think the white man black woman thing is because of Obama more than anything else.

    uh, what?
    With respect to dating brown sugar, there are several barriers to entry keeping WM from considering this market, and I don’t see how Michelle O or the white half of the reader of the teleprompter of the free world helps with that.
    More importantly, the only advice for WM-asianF game I’ve really seen here is that you need to game the shit out of hot Asians, so there you go. That is, there’s no trick, although the one post’s story about Asian Jessica alba seems infuriatingly unhelpful. My experience has been the Tom Brady rule, be good looking, it really helps (as stated elsewhere, why bother with sub-8’s?). But even when preselected by looks, the AF’s in question needed alcohol to approach, give IOI’s.

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  47. what, so true! The concentration increased during the last 10 years manifold! They are jogging to and fro, slim and slender… I often refer to the town as Vankong, and for a good reason.

    Wait! … we are talking about Oriental Asian girls, right?? 🙂

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  48. on September 28, 2010 at 1:51 pm alonzo portfolio

    I’ll never forget the time I played on an otherwise all-asian basketball team in an after-work lawyer-broker-accountant league in San Francisco. It was halftime at the Chinatown YMCA, and our guys were hunched together brainstorming — I figured it was plays for the second half or something. So I stuck my head in, and they were engaged in a joint commiseration session about their women. “Always money money money.” One of ’em says to me, “sounds weird, but you can’t believe it.”

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  49. @Morsellaux,

    “what, so true! The concentration increased during the last 10 years manifold! They are jogging to and fro, slim and slender… I often refer to the town as Vankong, and for a good reason.
    Wait! … we are talking about Oriental Asian girls, right?? :-)”

    That’s good! That’s good!!! heheh!! nice come back!!! lol!!!! You KNOW I was talking about chipmunks! hahahh!! I didn’t know you like them slim and slender? Your reply took so long I thought you’ve left for the park?hahah!! (BIG SMILE!!!!)

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  50. chateau & co.:

    We ended up in bed on the second date, her finger finding its way into my arsehole during sex. (Asian girls are fascinated by the anus.)

    true.
    that’s why they usually
    marry them

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  51. “Asian girls are fascinated by the anus.)”

    lol!!! I’ll check with my girlfriends. hahaha!! FASCINATED!!! hahahha!!

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  52. on September 28, 2010 at 2:07 pm gunslingergregi

    I married mine because of her fascination with money lol

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  53. black women-white men…i’ve noticed its increase relative to the normally observed black men-white women pattern.

    its mostly chalked up to the higher education of black women compared to black men; black women and white men interact socially more now than ever before.

    plus, i think that white men are both more assertive than they once were (look at all the white guys hitting gyms and interested in MMA type stuff; there been a reemergence of the white American bad ass over the past decade), and the bias against black women has been slowly dismantled.

    the fact that both white men and black women perceive their options as more limited than in the past (because of lower quality same race partners) their biases have shifted to accomodate.

    as for black female attitudes: when a black chick is open to dating white men she doesn’t have the entitled mentality that many white women display. fewer shit tests, fewer flakes.

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  54. what, wish I could, but am a working man. What I meant by slim’n’slender was that they don’t resemble beetched whales. 🙂
    As with other girls, the gynoid types make me melt (not yet at the drooling stage! :-))

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  55. Game is a product of the Anglosphere, and is only designed for use on Anglosphere women. If you go elsewhere, game can work, but your mileage will vary even more than it already does.

    An example of this is LMR: from reading Mystery I was led to believe that LMR was an evolutionarily programmed characteristic of women, until finding out from various field reports that Latin American women exhibit LMR at far lower rates, though apparently they are less receptive to approaches.

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  56. “If I see a white man with a black woman I know he has game.”

    Not necessarily. If the black girl is unattractive and aging, any pasty white dude can swoop her up. That said, the other day I saw a large, very dark black woman with a nerdy white dude. Both were unattractive. They had a daughter who was the cutest little girl I’ve seen in a while. Go figure.

    If you’re talking about an attractive black girl (Halle Berry type), who gets hit on 20 times a day, then yes the white man will need to have the right attitude and confidence. Black girls test you a lot more than white girls, easily reducing you to a mumbling mess if you don’t know what you’re doing. The only black girl you can pick up with the game that also works on white girls are the ones who act white themselves (i.e. only have white girlfriends).

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  57. on September 28, 2010 at 2:51 pm gunslingergregi

    She is worth her weight in gold though so all good.

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  58. Silver Fox: “Wow you fuckers dont know Asians.”

    Do you have any idea how many different nations, cultures and ethnic groups exist in Asia? Not to mention that an entire culture of people doesn’t exhibit just one particular mode of behavior. You don’t “know Asians” any more than anyone else.

    “Asian Men treat Women like shit; worse than Hasidics, and Taliban.”

    The Taliban murders and disfigures girls if they go to school.

    “Even in Uber-modern Japan; they never rise above Tea girls.”

    While it is true that Japanese women have a harder time climbing the corporate ladder, this statement is pure hyperbole.

    “-Asian women age like bananas; they all look like Mammason at chinese restaurant/korean deli. Name one hot Asian celebrity over 35? None.”

    I have reached the opposite conclusion: Asian women, at least East Asians, are more youthful and age slower.

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  59. on September 28, 2010 at 2:57 pm gunslingergregi

    You know what happened guys who had gotten woman like mine made the alimony laws based upon the (good woman) worth her weight in gold.

    Not taking into account how fucking rare they are.

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  60. on September 28, 2010 at 3:09 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    I live in Brazil.

    In the extreme south Brazil, the majority is “white enough”. Lots of Germans (like myself), italians (wich Is what I look like, being a dark hair german/spanish), and portuguese chicks.

    The more north you go, the more black chicks you see. From minority (south) to majority (north east).

    Asian chicks in any significant amount can be found only in São Paulo (chinese and japanese mostly, and a couple koreans).

    Japanese girls can be found in Curitiba, and very sparingly in the extreme south where I live.

    In Brazil, slender asian chicks are ALWAYS sought for, when they are slender.

    First because they are fairer, so they are honorary whites. There is a lot of dark people in Brazil. Second, because of some “Asian Fetish” among Brazilian middle class and above.

    They are never 9’s or 10’s. This position is reserved for blonde or mediterranean bombshells. Asian chicks compensate in the fetish factor.

    Me, I never stumbled in an asian chick that I liked. Mostly chinese girls whose face looks like Beavis and Butthead.

    Never a Sabrina Sato.

    Or a Daniele Suzuki.

    I game German/Italian/Iberian-Brazilian women. Being the “tall/dark/handsome” kind of guy, they like me as well.

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  61. some idiot:

    “If I see a white man with a black woman I know he has game.”

    heh – maybe he has money – Halle Berry is 100% pure StarFucker.

    Roosh

    If you’re talking about an attractive black girl (Halle Berry type), who gets hit on 20 times a day,

    gah – that bitch is old as Demi

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  62. “If I see a white man with a black woman I know he has money.”

    Fixed. 😉

    It’s not always true, but it’s generally so. We don’t usually date out unless we have serious problems finding a Black man who out-earns us and still has an interest in dating/marrying a Black woman. We also don’t trust less wordly White guys to be in it for anything more than a pump and dump.

    Being really honest, we’re pretty much instructed on why not to date White guys from childhood, and the biggest reason after closet racism is what basically boils down to their not having souls.

    Quoting one of my aunts, “They’re not like us. They turn their emotions on and off like a faucet.”

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  63. Firepower, get out of my head. Heheheh…

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  64. the biggest reason after closet racism is what basically boils down to their not having soulsoutright racism.

    FIFY

    also,

    Halle Berry is 100% pure StarFucker.

    Um, she seems to like ze soulless white men. Her model bf’s aren’t exactly a list

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  65. Rant Casey: “They are never 9′s or 10′s.”

    Is there some kind of scientific instrument you can use to ascertain the number, or does a committee decide it?

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  66. on September 28, 2010 at 3:36 pm gunslingergregi

    And the fact that a good woman doesn’t need alimony or child support.

    You just don’t get it do you you stupid fucks.

    Get a woman who handles her shit.

    So that you don’t even have to worry about whether she will be ok or not whether you contribute or not so you can retain your manhood and descision making capability.

    How many people dream of retirement one day lol

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  67. When you get on any list, come back and let us know

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  68. on September 28, 2010 at 3:40 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””the biggest reason after closet racism is what basically boils down to outright racism.”””’

    Probably going to all black clubs ain’t gonna help em meet anyone but me either.

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  69. LOL! Wow, is this a serious PU blog? This is the biggest load of horseshit I may have ever read about pickup. Possibly the funniest is “Asian girls are really fascinated by the anus.” (I paraphrase) If you believe this, then you clearly are NOT a pickup artist. To be able to ascribe any sort of generalized fascination to a woman based on race is ridiculous! Sure, *some* Asian women are into the anus, but there are groups of women in ALL Races into the ass, to generalize like that? lol! funny stuff. The truth is there is neither a higher nor lower percentage of ass lovers in any race, this is a fetish that develops independently of skin color.

    The fact of the matter is that pickup and true game is not based on the differences between you as an “8” and the girl as a “2” and that somehow the difference between the two numbers determines how you should game her – and thank God, who among us would admit that they could possibly be a 2? The same applies to women, even the fattest and ugliest hogbeast slithering her way across the planet will NOT ever consider herself a 2. The entire “rating” system as it relates to someone’s looks is irrelevant in pickup, pickup is a mental game, what matters is what the woman PERCEIVES herself as. She may be a physical “2”, but if SHE THINKS she’s a “10” and you want in her pants, you’d damn well better be gaming her appropriately. Which means physical ratings mean jack shit to a successful pickup artist. True pickup and game is based on psychological principles that are for the most part universal with any girl, 2 or 10. Race is irrelevant unless you’re talking about cultural differences (for example japanese culture views touch differently than americans or other westerners and as such, a pickup artist applying Kino needs to be aware of this if he’s in Tokyo to avoid girls thinking he’s rude vs. an alpha.)

    Here’s the answer to the original question:

    “Yes, you should game Asian women. Just as you would any other woman you’re interested in. Calibrate the game you’re using based on reaction. Maintain alpha body language and tonality and escalate touch throughout the interaction. Ultimately ground yourself to the woman if your interested in anything longer term with her. Flash game is pass/fail, it can get you in her pants same night, but when given time to think about the interaction, it can be a detriment to any sort of longer term dating with the girl. The one caveat I’d offer is be careful negging or teasing women of any ethnicity about their looks. While any of us are subject to ridicule of our looks, minorities can be particularly sensitive due to the possible addition of racial slurs added to any past ridicule over their looks, step in the wrong place, and you could be facing a particularly harsh and maybe impenetrable ‘bitch shield’.”

    lastly, I’m unfamiliar with the particular brand of game referred to generally on this particular blog, but if it advocates anything as ludicrous as some of the examples given in the original post above, I’d highly suggest that readers here consider studying other methods of game that are more broad based. You’ll find far better results, and you’ll be a better man for it.

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  70. Must be fun for you guys to have slim asian women available as an alternative to entitled American princesses.

    Here in flyoverland, if you even want to see an asian chick, you have to go to a restaurant with chow mein on the menu.

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  71. Askjoe, actresses are nuts. Most of us aren’t actresses.

    I only dated out because I was a military brat, and most Black guys around me didn’t date Black girls. So if I was going to date at all, what was left was others.

    I can’t say that my experiences with Americans exactly belied my aunts’ warnings. Thing is, that included Black American guys. To me, American men in general are soulless media zombies with very few exceptions.

    My dear aunts meant well, but the generation they grew up in didn’t consist of the mindless insects teeming in front of their respective televisions now.

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  72. I was just poking fun, but it reminded me that I was surprised by an Asian coworker telling me that they think different than us Caucasians. So, maybe Nicole is saying the same thing when her aunt said we can turn off our emotions, they think differently too. who knew?

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  73. as a good looking asian-american male, who’s never had problems getting girls of any race, all I want to say is… white dudes generally have really strange tastes in asian girls. 80% of the time when I see a white male – asian female couple, I’m thinking “wow man… she’s all yours” lol…

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  74. An exaggerated summary of the way white guys feel when they arrive in Taipei and sample the nightlife

    “Thoughts on The Fever”

    I don’t know what to do with myself. There’s this nervous tension running through my veins. I’m trying to maintain a relaxed composure within this social environment. Really, I am. The problem is that I can sense the warning signs of hyperventilation, and my testosterone levels seem to have been spiked up to the point that all of my thoughts are seesawing back and forth between ideas (a) dominate and control the entire universe or (b) shag everything that resembles a female. You see, here’s the situation: I’m surrounded by real life wank-fantasies.

    I feel awkward. I feel like a schoolboy caught masturbating in the girls’ restroom. The only difference is that I haven’t been caught for anything. Seriously, there’s nothing to catch. I’m still hiding behind a titanic wall of self-control; a wall that regardless of its colossal proportions is being burrowed through, disassembled brick-by-brick, and chiseled away with increasing intensity every time I see another pair of those long and deliciously alluring LEGS breezing provocatively past me.

    I’m beholding magnificent visions. I’m experiencing wondrous hallucinations. I’m gazing, staring, and mouth-gaping at things that would make an army of dead vikings decapitate their blonde Valkyrie wenches and escape Valhalla just to catch a glimpse of the shapes and figures that my eyes have been blessed with the privilege to witness. Someone needs to get me out of here, or I’m undoubtedly going to hell tonight.

    I’m not sure what it is. Maybe it’s the fashion sense. Maybe it’s the weather. Maybe it has something to do with those LEGS sliding gracefully out of ass-tight mini-skirts and pouring into delicate 6-inch stiletto high-heels. Or maybe, possibly, the entire situation can be explained by the fact that I am hammered on cheap Taiwanese whiskey along with diluted Sake, and the chemical cocktail of alcohol-induced hormonal chaos is causing me to perceive an otherwise typical female club demographic as cock-and-eyeball-pleasing sex goddesses.

    I can feel it. I’ve self-diagnosed myself and detected all of the characteristic symptoms. I’ve got the fever, and I’ve got it bad. It’s nasty. It’s nasty and yellow. It’s controlling my thoughts, directing my instincts, and inciting me through my reptile brain to commit unspeakable acts of debauchery and madness. It’s like a primal summon from my sex-crazed cavemen ancestors to inject my mediocre Caucasian DNA into a warm and welcoming Southeast Asian gene pool.

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  75. Sounds like Richard might lose his virginity tonight.

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  76. LOL

    Taiwanese girls are seriously hot. That’s one of the reasons I chose to continue living here.

    Yellow fever is real. 🙂

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  77. on September 28, 2010 at 5:03 pm Gunslingergregi

    It is even worse when you don’t drink.

    lol

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  78. You forgot to mention that AZN guys have small ant eaters and AZN girls would rather have larger cut d*cks for both pleasure and aesthetic reasons.

    Also AZN girls have smaller [email protected] than whites, hispanics and blacks.

    The only dissapointing thing is that AZN broads usually don’t shave unless Americanized and have small t*ts.

    These are all stereotypes and generalizations, which generally speaking to a general population or audience means its true for most. So don’t bother posting few exceptions to the general rule of thumb.

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  79. on September 28, 2010 at 5:12 pm Gunslingergregi

    Yea so far I have ruined two snatches in my life both were ltr’s with no kids.

    I am brutal.

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  80. on September 28, 2010 at 5:13 pm Gunslingergregi

    No wait one of them had a kid that didn’t originally ruin it.

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  81. I have to agree that Asian chicks are crazy about the anus. I recall taking a shower with an 8 and she soaped me, lingered on my arsehole long enough. But I dont see any reason to game them any less or more an 8 – 10 of any race.

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  82. You have a point, Laura.

    I feel like a virgin again in some way…I find most women to be beautiful, gentle, delicate, shy, and deliciously attractive. It’s a breath of fresh air, really. Instead of thinking of them as wet holes to ram my cock into I can actually consider the idea of having a relationship again. They are that interesting…so white girls take note…and please learn to behave like women.

    If any woman deserved to be put on a pedestal, I would choose a traditional Asian woman with family values and a reasonably functional, pragmatic brain…as opposed to the vast majority of skanky white wenches smothering the world with their self-obsessed whoredom and drama.

    The virgin speaks

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  83. And yes they can be hairy. The girl I’m dating right now I just found out that she’s got pubic hair about as long as my middle finger. We were on the dance floor and I reached down her short shorts and I was like…oh shit. She’s gorgeous though so I don’t care. I will make her shave when I make her my new girl.

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  84. Why does she have to shave? It is natural to have pubic hair.

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  85. on September 28, 2010 at 5:35 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””If any woman deserved to be put on a pedestal”””””

    Fuck yea.

    They deserve the billions in aid from us.

    They are single handedly helping to cure a lot of divorce pain in the american men getting fucked up by system.

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  86. on September 28, 2010 at 5:42 pm Gunslingergregi

    Asians ain’t gonna have to fire shot they will breed us out.

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  87. on September 28, 2010 at 5:59 pm Gunslingergregi

    Course we have media to control their minds and turn them into us may be a close race.

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  88. Maybe it is just me, or maybe it is just being in Australia, but I’ve never come across an Asian girl who required me to put much effort into gaming her. I haven’t found a cut-off point… Asian 8s and 9s still go for my sloppiest game. I have a lack of attraction for Asians, and a natural prize mentality, so maybe I just bring a completely unshakeable frame that I am higher value to my dealings with Asian girls and that is probably all I will ever need. I’ve also never slept with an Asian except after picking them up from bars and I have never been on a date with one. If it helps I am 7-8 on a looks scale and rank as an alpha on your own test.

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  89. The hottest Asians, male or female, are only half-Asian.

    To get an Asian girl, just move to Shanghai and dress nicely. Bagging a white guy is high status for Chinese girls.

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  90. @silver fox

    You sound like an angry old white bitch that needs to ease her pain by badmouthing Asian women.
    When you see all those white guys running behind all those pretty little yellow girls, yeah, that must hurt.
    And they even marry them and have kids together!
    Hahaha, that can happen to you only in your wildest dreams.

    They love money? Show me a woman who doesn’t.
    They age bad? My god, have you ever seen an Asian woman?
    They squeek high pitch? Get off your porn site for a moment.
    And Hassidic men treat their women like shit????
    Yeah, get all that anger out, but sadly, it won’t help.

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  91. “With respect to dating brown sugar, there are several barriers to entry keeping WM from considering this market…”

    Obama is basically a white guy, and … the pinnacle of black achievement in America. This makes white dudes that much more attractive to black women, who would have, in the past, overlooked the option because honkey can’t dance or whatever.

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  92. It is funny that they consider Obama the alpha black male of them all considering he’s half white.

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  93. Gorbachev said:

    “Dad?

    What’s that?”
    —————-
    …a guy who has lived in Japan for almost 20 years and can confirm most of your observations.

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  94. on September 28, 2010 at 7:19 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    @contrarian

    Rant Casey: “They are never 9’s or 10’s.”

    Is there some kind of scientific instrument you can use to ascertain the number, or does a committee decide it?

    Scientific instrument: The Penis. The Piercing Force of Nature. The Mastermind.

    Every man has one, and thats why consensus is easy among men.

    Women dont have one, and that is precisely why they are so solipsistic.

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  95. Re Gorbachev: “(Chinese)fuck like wild animals…” Whoa. “They prefer WHITE men.” I LOVE this guy!

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  96. How is it that even with 99% of this crap spelled out for them, there are still so many idiots posting comments here?

    Intelligence is a doing word.

    As an aside, if the woman you’re with hears “Butterfly Caught” and doesn’t get bad-girl wet and want to fuck you some backroom of a club like 2 heroin addicts barely capable of movement, leave her and find a thin sexy girl with slightly uneven chin-length hair combed to the side, a tan and a sexy tattoo right below her shoulder. She will be wearing a slinky pullover dress that looks more like a silk shirt and it will be dark grey. Extra points if she has a small stud in her nostril.

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  97. Um, to whoever The_King is, my boyfriend is Asian and my ex was asian too, and they were a lot bigger than my other exes (2 white, 1 black), so maybe you’re the one who’s a “little” insecure. Just sayin’

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  98. True story: When I play water polo, Asian chicks are always trying to stick their big toe in my anus.

    I don’t hate it.

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  99. Looking at my woman getting dressed in her panties and putting on a t-shirt.

    I am just like what the fuck.

    I am living a movie.

    I am like you look like the movies.

    Yea prob pay for that one.

    God dam she is hot.

    She is like you have good taste in woman lol

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  100. on September 28, 2010 at 8:38 pm Vincent Ignatius

    I think halfies do pretty well with Asian girls as well, as long as they got more of the high-T from the white half of their background. They can also pull white chicks far better than any pure Asian.

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  101. http://www.avoiceformen.com/2010/09/27/a-stay-at-home-dad-and-son-abused/

    Take a look at some of the comments on this piece. Even father’s rights activists with every reason to see the light STILL put the pussy on the pedestal. They just don’t get it.

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  102. Hey, you spelt it “arsehole”. An american would say “asshole”. Krauser….is that you?

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  103. Eh Roissy…

    ever see this blog…

    http://www.trueforcedloneliness.com/

    It’s about dudes who have totally given up on dating and life….I can’t even believe this shit is real…

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  104. @ Nicole

    “Being really honest, we’re pretty much instructed on why not to date White guys from childhood, and the biggest reason after closet racism is what basically boils down to their not having souls.

    Quoting one of my aunts, “They’re not like us. They turn their emotions on and off like a faucet.””

    In your first paragraph you simultaneously say white men are closet racists then say one of the most racist things imaginable, ie that any entire race of men have no souls. Then you quote your racists aunt saying racist stuff. Good job not being racist there.

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  105. “Scientific instrument: The Penis. The Piercing Force of Nature. The Mastermind. ”

    This is subjective.

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  106. Two Asian cuties, I think Korean. The one on the left is super cute.

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  107. @Jen

    Unless you went through 1,000 cocks, shut the fuck up. Seriously, did you even graduate high school bitch? You clearly didn’t read or comprehend…

    “These are all stereotypes and generalizations, which generally speaking to a general population or audience means its true for most. So don’t bother posting few exceptions to the general rule of thumb.”

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/jonny5/penis-size-chart-by-ethnicity-aub

    Seriously kill yourself.

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  108. There are a lot of petite Asian chicks who are use-able for a very special kind of love-making called “The Airplane Fuck.” That is, you stand up and they fit on as the propeller which can be kept spinning with your hands assistance,
    Obviously they need to be short; very shot if you are not so tall. And light, very light if either of you is ever going to get off that way or even escape violent mishaps.

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  109. @Nicole

    So true, first of all black girls are generally ugly with their manly face, purple lips and gross ass. Secondly, my friends and acquaintances will never let me forget if I fucked or god forbid had a kid or marry one.

    Everyone is racist, get over it. If you are a patriot, then many ways you are racist.

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  110. on September 28, 2010 at 10:50 pm Gunslingergregi

    Well tg they have 58 posts on movies and 15 on money.

    That might be the problem.

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  111. Yeah, but when you run game on black chicks they just calmly rate it; matter of factly, 1 to 10, – but if you get high enough on the scale her pants WILL come off and she WILL worship the (right) cock.. If she likes your cock she will say so. If not she will not seriously try to hide it. Boredom will not happen next,
    Then you are in for a ride my brothers. Lots of orgasms will happen for the quick and the nimble but there will be the stench of inhunan cruelty covering the whole proceedings like a sulfuous fog.

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  112. @ The_King

    “So true, first of all black girls are generally ugly with their manly face, purple lips and gross ass.”

    LMAO! The generalizations in this comment section kill me everytime. This one is one of the most patently ridiculous I’ve seen in a while.

    “Secondly, my friends and acquaintances will never let me forget if I fucked or god forbid had a kid or marry one. ”

    If your beholden to your friends opinions your probably worthless as a person anyway, i.e. with no individual identity. No decent black (or any woman probably) would *want* to date you.

    “Everyone is racist, get over it. If you are a patriot, then many ways you are racist.”

    Elaborate.

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  113. The King, you are right when you say everyone is racist. In one way or the other somewhere we all are racist and black are the most racist in the sense that they distinguish themselves in different manner than white. Fact is always a fact and here it is a fact that people are of varied race and so is the feeling about it.

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  114. “In one way or the other somewhere we all are racist and black are the most racist in the sense that they distinguish themselves in different manner than white.”

    Another one lol, here we go. Elaborate.

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  115. @Dad

    Gorbachev said:

    “Dad?

    What’s that?”
    —————-
    …a guy who has lived in Japan for almost 20 years and can confirm most of your observations.

    I don’t get how some of these commenters get away with saying what they do. I’m no game encyclopedia, neither am I RC or Roosh: But I know what I know.

    I;m working in Korea for another week. The women here are often stunning. And Asian women are supposed to be ugly? A guy who said this has never actually been to (north-East) Asia.

    And as far as anything else goes, they’re just women. Not another species. If anything, once you flex your cultural muscles and learn to exaggerate certain things (much more teasing, slightly different negging, etc), it might actually be easier to game Asian girls.

    Any white guy who declines any interest in Asia is cheating himself wholesale. Any white guy who’s been here will absolutely agree with me.

    And if you bring it and you have game and you’re not ugly and you’re young, there’s no place on Earth you can collect more than here. Anywhere. Not even South America. It’s why they have to claw the men out of here with a Deportation order half the time.

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  116. @A Equals A

    Good, there is a reason why elites and the rich don’t mingle with your kind. You live in total state of denial.

    My friends and bosses opinions matter to me a lot, I use it to acquire my BMW, condo in NYC and blonde eye candy girlfriend.

    I already said, I wasn’t and never will be interested in a black chick. I had plenty of black models show interest… but your decent is probably plump Aunt Gemna type so I digress. A gentleman in the USA prefers blondes.

    How about you explain why…

    Every major news station anchor is white?

    Every president and VP candidate has been white? Obama is half white btw.

    Uncle Sam, Superman, Batman, James Bond and even Spiderman are all white? Hint childhood heroes/role models.

    Maxmin, Askmen or FHM top 50 women and men are usually white?

    Jesus, Virgin Mary and God paintings show white?

    Every hit TV show Friends, Sienfield, Entourage and SNL are nearly all white casts?

    Why don’t you elaborate on how people are not racist?

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  117. Here’s a local documentary on PUA’s in Hong Kong.

    A few notes and observations:
    1) chicks respond easily to game here
    2) it’s not to get numbers, but these local girls flake often
    3) when they start to get gina tingles they immediately shit-test
    4) banging local girls is not hard, but keeping it going is the challenge
    5) the biggest shit test local girls pull is the “how many girls you sleep with?” “do you do this with all the girls you meet?” Until I understood how to respond to shit-tests, I was blowing it. Now I’m able to turn it around.

    8:20 Blue Mystery: “Which is better Mandarin or Cantonese—fake rapport, and he seems like he’s just repeating the Mystery Method without any real insights added.

    The Globalization of PUA schools…

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  118. As an Asian who live in asian country (Indonesia), from my own subjective experiences there’s few points to make relating to gaming Asian Chicks :
    1. Actually U dont need any game if U are a white dude from first world countries. U just need to play a good beta provider with promise of LTR and they’ll come to U.
    2. Most of Asian chicks have heavy social programming in their mind, they still have high respect for traditional values like family, culture, virginity, religion, etc. Always show that U acknowledge and respect it too.
    3. So if U need any game, the best game to play is heavy release and tension, push and pull game. Try to hold sexual gratification, while at the same time keep being sexual. Tell them that U respect their values, but at the same time show them that U can’t resist their inner nympho. Make them feel irresistible. Do it good and don’t blame me if U get raped by them. If u know how to release it, they are quite an animal in bed. (Thanks for years of heavy social conditioning and unreleased sexual tensions)
    4. When gaming them focus heavily in comfort phase, direct game works better than indirect. So when gaming I prefer mostly using Juggler Method instead of MM.

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  119. @foxie,

    Good assessment. Though gaming girls in Asia varies from country to country.

    Indonesia and Philippines: “hello” is a good opener.

    But in other countries you need game to truly build attraction vs value.

    The idea of “value” is a big draw for many Chinese, HK, Taiwan girls, so even if you’re a herb but come from a good family, then you’d be in.

    But invariably they lament that their “boyfriends” don’t bang them properly but these bf’s are “nice” and “kind”.

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  120. Everyone likes it in the bum? Really? But it just seems so painful! Am I really missing out on a good thing?

    Eek! Ouchie!

    Do all men like a finger in the bum??? Serious question!

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  121. “The only white women I see aging well are French women.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/08/AR2008020801607.html

    good article on this topic…

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  122. @walawala
    I never game any white women (we call them “bule”) but my friend who did (he is an Indonesian PUA/dating coach, yes PUA has gone global) told me the differences:

    “White chicks are hard to open but easy to close, while Asian chicks are easy to open but hard to close.”

    Yes, most of Asian chicks (in my exp is Indonesian) is very easy to open. The social conditioning expect them to be nice to other people and they don’t want to be seen as rude/bitch. But after U open prepare to see shit tests, flakes, and dramas thrown at U.

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  123. What famous boxer Cassius Clay alias Mohammad Ali had said once that Blacks should marry only blacks and not whites so that solidarity of blacks can be maintained. If blacks feel that they should aggregate with whites it is not a racist view and if white thinks so he is racist, can anyone elaborate it.

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  124. Roissy,

    Quick note, your blog has saved my sex life. About a year ago, when in beta agony over a breakup (Asian NYC lawyer, dumped her for that whole screaming/ punching/ crying thing, and infrequent sex), some random yet awesome asshat in a Commander Riker uniform spewed alpha/ beta rhetoric to point me in the right direction.

    A bit confused as to what he was talking about, google lead me here and diligently crushed my white knight ideals. The world makes a lot more sense now.

    I’ll need your help someday, but I wanted to tip you off about this now as I couldn’t find your email.

    http://www.revelinnewyork.com/videos/ann-liv-young

    It’s people of Walmart meets art, and NYC SWPLs are making it happen.

    Best Regards,
    Hobokenite

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  125. “Good, there is a reason why elites and the rich don’t mingle with your kind. You live in total state of denial. ”

    LMAO! We’ll see who’s in denial.

    “My friends and bosses opinions matter to me a lot, I use it to acquire my BMW, condo in NYC and blonde eye candy girlfriend. ”

    And who asked you if I gave a shit? Didn’t I already imply you were worthless? Shove your life story up your own ass.

    “I already said, I wasn’t and never will be interested in a black chick. I had plenty of black models show interest… but your decent is probably plump Aunt Gemna type so I digress. ”

    LOL. black girls can’t be ugly (by your estimation) and models at the same time. Dumbass. That means they are obviously attractive (but your bigotry stands in the way of full realization of the fact). Clear case of denial. Contradictions, contradictions.

    “A gentleman in the USA prefers blondes. ”

    No *you* prefer blondes.

    “Every major news station anchor is white?”

    Thats probably not true. And you probably know that already lol.

    “Every president and VP candidate has been white? Obama is half white btw.

    Uncle Sam, Superman, Batman, James Bond and even Spiderman are all white? Hint childhood heroes/role models.

    Maxmin, Askmen or FHM top 50 women and men are usually white?

    Jesus, Virgin Mary and God paintings show white?

    Every hit TV show Friends, Sienfield, Entourage and SNL are nearly all white casts?”

    Thats not necessarily evidence for racism in your terms. Its just mass market appeal/pop culture. The majority of people in America (as of now) are white. Pop culture reflects, to a large extent, their preferences. Racism is blatant discrimination (in the face of equal talent or ability). There are plenty of hit shows that cater to black people, on BET for example.

    “Why don’t you elaborate on how people are not racist?”

    So much as people are racist, they are irrational (as you’ve clearly demonstrated above). The less racism, the better.

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  126. Muhammad Ali did say that lawyerjourno, but that was then he was part of the Nation of Islam. The Nation of Islam believed the white man was impure compared to every other race on earth…

    Afterwards he renounced the Nation of Islam and just joined mainstream Sunni Islam.

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  127. ^ @The_King

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  128. You guys generalize wayyyyyyyyy too much.

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  129. ^
    har har

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  130. But embracing Islam did not have to do anything with his opinion on racism. He became a Muslim for he was ill-treated by white racists who most were Christians. I guess his hatred for whites came from the racial discrimination he faced at early adulthood in Ohio, Louisville.

    My point is though whites were racist and punctured the self esteem of black Cassius Clay but in response to that or in vengeance he became even more racist than whites and opposed all integration or interaction with whites.

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  131. look, to bring on down home, if you got yellow fever, you’re on the doorstep of oneitis and anti-game. So, you see a girl you think is it, the hottest, whether she’s blonde,redhead, or asian, pre-game, you’d be a boner sporting, puppy spazz. With game, you’re able to come off as a socially aware individual, which apparently crosses racial divides. I think that’s today’s lesson. Blessedly, there’s no atheist crap, HBD secret tips. If you see a girl who you find hot, you unfortunately can’t go run on in and trip on your own tongue. You have to play cool. The other point is, though, yes lot’s of herbs seem to fleece the JV, but that’s not relevant to the host’s objectives.

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  132. Anyone pondering racism and enthnicity with regards to Muhammad Ali might be interested to know that he knows he has white ancestors in his not-too-distant past and he seems to be quite accepting of it.
    He has Irish blood in him, and not long ago he happily visited the Irish village of his ancestors.

    Yes, I know Muhammad Ali went through a phase in which ‘black pride’ was very big in his life.
    However, I am also rather familiar with his entire life history, and I had some great encounters with him when he held the title and I was a teenage fan (a white kid).
    I’ve never seen evidence that Muhammad Ali was a racist.

    He has simply always loved people, period.
    He’s no saint, but he has shown tons of kindness and generosity to people of every category & background, young or old or whatever, at least from about the time he was 18 and thereafter.

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  133. on September 29, 2010 at 1:31 am Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    A white guy who dates an attractive black girl is risking his life. A situation like the Pendleton Marines incident is a foregone conclusion if a white guy takes an attractive black girl.

    I would also add that black men have it pretty good in America, due to the rising obesity of women. American women (of all races) are becoming less desirable according to white metrics, but MORE desirable as per what black men want (obesity).

    So America is becoming a sexual paradise for black men.

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  134. @Vincent Ignatius

    Being half asian and half white I can attest from personal experience that you are dead on. Asian girls love us and amongst myself and my fellow half asian friends we refer to them as “lay-ups” for the ease that one of us can get them into bed. Sadly for me I don’t find many asian girls attractive.

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  135. Dear Lazy guy, can you tell me what would be the reply of a black guy if he is complimented that he looks like John Travolta. If he says ‘Oh thanks for compliment’ he is a racist for he wish he would look like Travolta..and, if he says, ‘No, I cannot look like John Travolta, he is white,’ then too the black guy is a racist as he feels Travolta is white and blacks and whites should not be compared for similarity.

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  136. on September 29, 2010 at 2:31 am The Quest For 50

    I had a friend in high school who everyone thought had an Asian fetish… Now I realize he was just horribly unattractive.

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  137. Lawyerjourno,

    With all due respect, I do not follow your reasoning.

    To me, a racist is someone whose outlook is either something like

    ‘All green people are dumb and greedy.’
    (or whatever pejoratives you prefer)

    or

    ‘I despise all green people (because they’re green),
    regardless of their individual traits’.

    or a combination of both of these.

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  138. Ok, so that being there. What I feel racism is all inclusive of discrimination based on color and look of two persons. So if someone says I would not like to look like blacks that means blacks are seen someone who do not look good. So in some way or the other the person is racist. Any slight discrimination to show shortcomings of the other race can be racist. However, such a discrimination may not be necessarily harming to one or the other race and its people.

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  139. @foxie

    “”Yes, most of Asian chicks (in my exp is Indonesian) is very easy to open. The social conditioning expect them to be nice to other people and they don’t want to be seen as rude/bitch. But after U open prepare to see shit tests, flakes, and dramas thrown at U.””

    Indonesian girls, the ones who are professional, often Indonesian Chinese or who have money and an education abroad are the hottest in Asia.

    They’re always scooped up.

    They are the most erotic and sexual. I met an Indonesian Chinese girl living in Singapore recently. Well-dressed, fun and could she ever bang.

    She responded very well to game and I went very easily from Kino escalation, to comfort, to push-pull, to kiss-close and the f-close within 2 hours.

    As for the differences. Chinese girls are the biggest ones for shit-testing.

    It becomes a Catch 22. You can’t bang hot Hong Kong girls unless you have tight game and know how to respond to shit tests and they want alpha.

    But Hong Kong girls will always settle for betas out of a sense of complacency, guilt, duty and fear.

    So a common experience I’ve had is that after banging them, they will suddenly get weird, cold, and very often disappear or flake AFTER you’ve banged them. Then send an email or text saying that they’re falling in love with you and so they have to say goodbye.

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  140. Hegerow, “In your first paragraph you simultaneously say white men are closet racists then say one of the most racist things imaginable, ie that any entire race of men have no souls. Then you quote your racists aunt saying racist stuff. Good job not being racist there.”

    Read the rest of the post, and get back to me.

    …but, for a case in point in my aunts’ favor, TK says, “So true, first of all black girls are generally ugly with their manly face, purple lips and gross ass. Secondly, my friends and acquaintances will never let me forget if I fucked or god forbid had a kid or marry one.”

    As they say, when the cat can’t get to the milk, it says the milk is sour. Black women were all the rage until feminists made you feel guilty and exploitive for it. Then suddenly we’re ugly and gross.

    Crack open a history book that wasn’t written for high school propaganda class.

    “Everyone is racist, get over it. If you are a patriot, then many ways you are racist.”

    No, if you’re a patriot, you’re a nationalist. If you’re intelligent and educated as opposed to merely programmed, you’re racist, but not just against others.

    You’d be able to see your own race’s shortcomings as well.

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  141. I’m gonna add “citizenship opportunities” to Asian women’s accessibility. I knew these two nerdy twins from school, by university age both were dating Asian 3-5s. One of them ended up marrying so the girl wouldn’t have to be deported. That and he’s such a herb he’d marry the first girl who kissed him. He even once suggested that I date this boss-eyed Thai fugly that kept stalking me one time. Obviously I don’t share his ‘take what you can get’ omega-isms.

    @Nicole: If you’re intelligent and educated as opposed to merely programmed, you’re racist, but not just against others.

    You’d be able to see your own race’s shortcomings as well

    Smartest thing I’ve heard from you. Although what you’ve described there is being HBD realist or ‘racialist’ at worst, not ‘racist’. Granted, the semantics of the word have been distorted so much that any left/liberal can use some fuzzy definition in order to silence their opposition, so I refuse to be cowed by the term.

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  142. Just to clarify, I mean foreign-born Asians, not Asian-descended naturalised citizens.

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  143. The behavior of women (nice vs. nasty) tracks income. Women from poor areas are nice because they have to be. Women from well-to-do areas are nasty because they can be.

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  144. One point the writer forgot was that Asia is inhabited by people of varied races. The far east Asian people have different looks and culture than people in South Asia. Behavior vis-a-vis dating game would be slightly different for the people of two regions. People from South Asia are in no way like people of Far East Asia and any generalization of one would not be meaningful or applicable on others.

    Similarly, even Arabian countries are included in Asia which again are third kind of people in Asia; therefore, there is diversity in term of people, look, culture, language, dating response, etc. It has long been a notion from European people to see through their specs that Asia is one but it has never been.

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  145. @ Gorbachev
    “Any white guy who’s been here will absolutely agree with me.

    And if you bring it and you have game and you’re not ugly and you’re young, there’s no place on Earth you can collect more than here. Anywhere. Not even South America. It’s why they have to claw the men out of here with a Deportation order half the time.”
    ——————
    I think a solid majority of white guys can do better with women in Japan than in America. The exceptions would be people like pro athletes, rock stars, and uber-PUAs who can get all the hot girls they want in the US. Their success rate would decline a bit because hot Japanese girls are a little less slutty and some would not consider hooking up with a foreigner.

    Then there are are guys at the other end of the spectrum who get next to nothing at home and also get nothing here because they’re homely. I had a friend, an English guy, who was short and had an unfortunate distribution of hair (not enough on his head, too much on his upper back.) Great guy, but he lived here for more than a decade and, to my knowledge, never once got laid.

    The biggest benificiary in Japan is the nerdy, shy, game-less, but not bad looking white guy. In America he might end up settling for an overweight chick or doing without. But in Japan he’ll find that:

    -being white doesn’t equal being bland and uninteresting. He’ll have some exotic appeal.
    -shyness between the the sexes is much more the norm so he doesn’t stand out in that regard. And much of his verbal akwardness with girls is lost in translation anyway.
    -very few girls are fat
    -an ocean of slender and cute, if not beautiful, girls in the 6-7 range are potentially interested in him and he need do nothing more than be his nerdy, whitebread, nice-guy self.

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  146. NYT article on the decline in marriage rates. The story chalks it up to the recession, but the chart at the left exposes the fraud in that position, with the trend having been set in motion long before the recession began.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/29/us/29marriage.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

    Further demonstration that more men every day are waking up to the raw deal that marriage is for them.

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  147. Gaming Asian girls? I didn’t know that were al the same.

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  148. My girlfriend is now my fiance. Ten days and 7 dates after meeting her. She wants 4 kids. Plans to fly out to meet her parents soon.

    Her family is full of high scholastic achievement people, as is mine. The kids will be smart, and if there are any girls, they’ll be hot and have huge tits. I hope a boy would inherit my dick.

    No date. I’m still shooting for within three months.

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  149. on September 29, 2010 at 9:53 am Gunslingergregi

    Good Luck!!!

    he he he

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  150. @Gorbachev

    Very well put. Our experiences vary vastly due to the fact that you seem to have spent a significant amount of time in Asia. My younger brother has been in Korea for 2+ years teaching ESL. I’m saving my pennies to make a trip out there. He dislikes Korea in general, but LOVES China.
    All of my experiences with Asians are here in the U.S., Chicago to be specific.
    Perhaps the shyness that I am referring to with the transplants here has to do with the fact that they are out of their element and slightly uncomfortable. I’ve only gamed two girls that were truly ‘from overseas’ that had thick accents. One Thai, one Korean. The Korean was 5’10 and a former model..a solid 8. Me showing her around the town, teasing, and being patient with her lacking English skills proved to be priceless.

    So Gorbachev, I’m trying to figure out just how different the game is here compared to Asian countries. I think some of the mediocre 3-5 range Asians here that speak perfect English have definitely been put on that pedestal that we speak of. Will your hotel example work on them too, or should I stick with that approach for the tourists that aren’t ‘from’ here? Keep in mind that I work right downtown in the loop and I see Asian girls (always in pairs) on holiday taking pics of everything. They stick out like sore thumbs due to their super light skin and the different shoes, of course.
    Game is game….push pull, shit test conquering, etc. I suppose staying true to this will be the ultimate tool for success.
    One thing you said though…about me being shy walking up to them. You are right…I’ve been extremely reluctant to start coversations/banter with the foreign chicago-visiting Asian girls. I definitely will be stepping this up, as you know they must be staying in a hotel 🙂

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  151. This thread is disappointing. People need to be posting a LOT more pics of hot Asian girls.

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  153. Love this thread.

    @walawala

    A few notes and observations:

    5) the biggest shit test local girls pull is the “how many girls you sleep with?” “do you do this with all the girls you meet?” Until I understood how to respond to shit-tests, I was blowing it. Now I’m able to turn it around.

    What’s a good way to bust through those kinds of shit tests?

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  154. @simpleman

    “What’s a good way to bust through those kinds of shit tests?”

    You’ll never be able to bust through our shit tests!! haha!

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  155. wala2

    Even before discovering game I was doing ok. Game only increased the hottness of the chicks I can now meet and bang.

    Ten years ago I would not even have attempted to date the type of girls I later often got. It would have been inconceivable to me that a girl that young and hot would go for me. But even with greater skills, sometimes you just happen upon a truckload of luck. Game allows you to take your shot.

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  156. Me

    Everyone likes it in the ass, homophobe.

    Ya, no shit.

    True, I can’t remember an Asian that didn’t finger fuck my but, but that’s because they were all good at taking a hint.

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  157. Richard

    The girl I’m dating right now I just found out that she’s got pubic hair about as long as my middle finger. We were on the dance floor and I reached down her short shorts and I was like…oh shit. She’s gorgeous though so I don’t care. I will make her shave when I make her my new girl.

    She’s just following orders; I told her to keep it long.

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  158. Richard

    An exaggerated summary of the way white guys feel when they arrive in Taipei and sample the nightlife

    “Thoughts on The Fever”…

    Who wrote that, Richard, was it you? Find job.

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  159. @Firepower

    “She’s just following orders; I told her to keep it long.”

    Woooo, strong man, powerful words!!!wooooo!!

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  160. if you were a chick, i’d fuck you

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  161. Woooo, strong man, powerful words! woooo!!

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  162. damn right baby

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  163. lol!!!! hahah!!

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  164. THESE in the pic are the only asn grl types worth gaming

    http://www.wwtdd.com/2010/09/gordon-ramsey-has-killed-another-chef/

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  165. Ohh, you kids are having fun. 🙂

    Firepower, what would blow you out of water!
    I am willing to be a bookie for the match… 10:1 on what!

    BTW you link is a bit anemic, I see one asian chick there.

    A more colorful selection:
    http://www.asianjoke.com/beautiful_asian_girls.htm

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  166. Gorbachev–

    learn to exaggerate certain things (much more teasing, slightly different negging, etc)

    How is the negging that works best in Korea different?

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  167. walawala–

    the biggest shit test local girls pull is the “how many girls you sleep with?” “do you do this with all the girls you meet?” Until I understood how to respond to shit-tests, I was blowing it. Now I’m able to turn it around.

    What is the best way of responding to those type of shit tests in Hong Kong?

    The US agree and amplify way? “Oh, must be over fifty this week alone I think.”

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  168. Doug1,

    I’ll repeat….haha!!

    @simpleman

    “What’s a good way to bust through those kinds of shit tests?”

    You’ll never be able to bust through our shit tests!! haha!

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  169. on September 29, 2010 at 5:13 pm gunslingergregi

    Just have to be unafraid to die what is all it takes he he he

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  170. Doug1, it’s so cookie-cuttery… May have worked on a girl for a couple of times, but it gets boring and then it turns to “one of these, sigh”.

    Use your imagination.

    “I haven’t been with a girl for the past… 6 hours!”

    ***

    One of the real life ones:
    Me: “Can’t tell exactly, forgotten my logbook in my car, I’d rather spend time in your company than going get it”.

    She: “How thick is it?”

    I made a motion towards her hand, she stretched out and I grabbed her by the wrist and by the other hand’s two fingers I squeezed her three fingers.

    Warp speed from there.

    ***
    You pull a piece of paper from your pocket, a pen and write down 5 ticks, cross over, then write another 5, cross over…
    She: “What are you doing?”
    You: “Counting.”
    She [giggles]: “That’s enough!”

    etc.

    I never figured out a “proper” response on the “do you do this with all the girls you meet?”

    So, I either say nothing and smile, looking straight into her eyes, or say: “No, every girls is different.”

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  171. Doug1, the main thing, though, is a situational awareness. All 720 degrees (sphere). If you can weave and project that into your communication (and it also provides points of inspiration), and can do a decent cold reading, then she is yours.

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  172. Morsellaux,

    You’re soooo smart! heheh!!

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  173. Actually, what, it is simpler. I can do no wrong!

    Semi-kidding. 🙂

    People often stick to the routines and forget that there are many modalities involved. The routines out of the box may work on skanks, especially if there is some alcohol intoxication involved. But beyond that, one may get a pity fuck just because of some form of status (like obsession of asian girls with white guys).

    I like to intoxicate my women by magic, using their own endorphins. It is an investment and it pays mighty.

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  174. on September 29, 2010 at 6:51 pm Gunslingergregi

    (like obsession of all girls with white guys).

    there fixed that frame for ya.

    he he he

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  175. Nah, WM can’t get 5-7 “Asian girls” easy. It’s just that to white men, 1-2 Asian girls are 5-7s.

    There aren’t even any 10s outside of East Asia, and in very specific parts of it (North China, Northeast China, West China, South China, Southwest China, inland Korea, upper caste Japanese)

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  176. on September 29, 2010 at 7:07 pm Gunslingergregi

    But yea why not take advantage of white fever and have money it just makes sense.

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  177. Taiwanese girls are seriously hot. That’s one of the reasons I chose to continue living here.

    North Chinese/Northern Sichuanese/Eastern Tibetan > Upper Class Japanese > Northeast/South Chinese > Korean/Southwest Chinese > average Japanese > Taiwanese > Deep South China

    Yeah, 1s and 2s to white men are 5-7s

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  178. on September 29, 2010 at 7:09 pm Gunslingergregi

    For 3k a month I can travel the world and fuck a diferent chick every day for the rest of my life.

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  179. But yea why not take advantage of white fever and have money it just makes sense.

    Why not, right? A redneck or “Walmartian” would love a cheese-whiz and hotdog buffet and probably gorge himself, too.

    Just like how a middle class white boy would have more 1-2, flat-chested, dark-skinned, flare-nostriled, oily haired Southeast Asian mutt pussy than he’d know what to do with.

    The tall, light-skinned, strong, highly intelligent North Chinese/mixed males that dominate Taiwan don’t even look at these women for a reason.

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  180. on September 29, 2010 at 7:11 pm Gunslingergregi

    Theres got to be some incentive in there somewhere lol

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  181. For 3k a month I can travel the world and fuck a diferent chick every day for the rest of my life.

    If you just drove down south (Central America) you could probably (pay to) fuck 5 different chicks every day for that much.

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  182. on September 29, 2010 at 7:13 pm Gunslingergregi

    lol who cares.

    But yea I usually get quality and I know what quality is.

    I spent 2k a month and fucking white strippers in the states.

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  183. Maybe for white women, but 99.999% of white men can’t tell a 1 from a 7 as far as “Asians” go.

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  184. on September 29, 2010 at 7:15 pm Gunslingergregi

    What I am saying is that white chicks bodies still ain’t comparing to asians. he he he

    Nor there tendancy to have capability to be a pain in the ass.

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  185. on September 29, 2010 at 7:16 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””Truth Speaker
    Maybe for white women, but 99.999% of white men can’t tell a 1 from a 7 as far as “Asians” go.
    ”””’

    Sweet deal then isn’t it.

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  186. on September 29, 2010 at 7:18 pm Gunslingergregi

    The world outside the us is just begging for my white dick.

    Why would a white guy fight it?

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  187. It depends, as long as they take their mixed race babies and leave the island (they usually do) it’s not a bad trade-off. Have to get rid of the uglies somehow, and sterilizing all the shorter, darker, Southeast Asian like women is not an option.

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  188. on September 29, 2010 at 7:20 pm Gunslingergregi

    Embrace it and have a good time you don’t owe the west shit white man.

    Read a feminist site look around.

    You owe nothing except your happiness being number one.

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  189. The bright side of gaming traditional Asians….they really do prefer non-Asian men.

    No, they don’t. It’s actually the complete opposite. The traits that cause “Asian” women to gravitate toward their own men:

    Good looks, intelligence, loyalty, tradition

    The traits that cause them to gravitate towards others:

    White-washing, lack of contact other “Asians”, child-abuse, low self-esteem

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  190. I forgot light skin, health and height. Darker skinned women, as was noted above, like white men more.

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  191. on September 29, 2010 at 7:26 pm Gunslingergregi

    What is your point dude?

    Does it matter?

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  192. on September 29, 2010 at 7:28 pm Gunslingergregi

    You can live like a king or like a sucker.

    lol

    The choice is easy.

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  193. on September 29, 2010 at 7:29 pm Gunslingergregi

    There is no need to have a career. Get your shit together and live large.

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  194. The point is, the point I was responding to was off. White men can not easily “game” 5-7 Asian girls. White men just think the 1-3s they are gaming are 5-7s.

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  195. on September 29, 2010 at 7:32 pm Gunslingergregi

    Men don’t owe the west 50 years of work. We have feminists to pick up the slack don’t worry about it.

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  196. on September 29, 2010 at 7:33 pm Gunslingergregi

    well if the guy thinks the chick is a 5 to 7 then the chick is a 5 to 7.

    Doesn’t matter.

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  197. on September 29, 2010 at 7:34 pm Gunslingergregi

    If he thinks the chick is a 10 then she is a ten.

    Doesn’t matter how you rate her matters how he rates her.

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  198. In terms of “pricing” it’s really a factor of supply and demand, vs. her own perception of her price going by the “rules” as established in posts above.

    Most of these girls are pure 1-2s or 1-3s and the guy’s perception isn’t gonna change that.

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  199. on September 29, 2010 at 7:55 pm Gunslingergregi

    lol dude.

    Where do you live?

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  200. on September 29, 2010 at 7:56 pm Gunslingergregi

    The truth is when a white guy gets with an asian woman he becomes happier.

    Concrete happiness raise.

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  201. Yep, even the really ugly ones they are restricted to… white women aren’t that bad.

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  202. on September 29, 2010 at 8:00 pm Gunslingergregi

    They also tend to do better financially.

    Like at some point they won’t have to work themselves to death with the lead weight of a western woman around their kneck.

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  203. on September 29, 2010 at 8:05 pm Gunslingergregi

    Only thing a white chick knows how to do is buy a house she can’t afford.

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  204. on September 29, 2010 at 8:07 pm Gunslingergregi

    But anyway my point is it is ok for white men to eat fuck and love and the window is closing on that shit enjoy it while you can.

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  205. Not the girls white men are “gaming”, they have a tendency to be from lower class, broken families.

    If white women are so incompetent how come there are so many white men financing their home buying to cause a global financial crisis?

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  206. @simpleman/Doug1/what

    “What’s a good way to bust through those kinds of shit tests?”

    Agree and amplify works, but you have to be sure that you’re in character for it.

    The Indonesian Chinese girl I met a few weeks back, the second time I met her she was already asking “How many girls you date since we met?”

    Agree and amplify. They’re surprised by this because Asian guys are very logical. Ask a question, expect an answer. This totally disrupts their frame of thinking and so my experience is that it does cause those “gina tingles”.

    Other shit tests that Asian girls ask you: “what’s your job?”—if you can reframe that with non-answers it works. They think you’re funny.

    Again, I think culturally, in my experience the whole education system in Hong Kong and in most of Asia is rote learning.

    So when you suddenly flip the dynamic, they are suddenly chasing.

    The other shit test I get is “Do you miss me?”.

    This one I have a bit more trouble with. I usually change the subject or ask “What is it about missing me that turns you on so much?”

    The reply that often comes: “Why do you not answer?” This again is an indication that i’m doing it right.

    But as I wrote earlier, Hong Kong girls, invented game. So they will very often start acting girly and difficult—like cats.

    Most of the local guys will play into that. Until I understood game, I did that too.

    Read up everything you can on passing shit tests. Understand what shit tests are and you’ll do great.

    Asian girls are often much more feminine and basic in their emotions.

    So they respond very positively to “negs”. When you start getting doggie dinner bowl eyes, and punching your arm, you’re in.

    They also shift the frame going from chasing to pulling back.

    You need to understand game to know that you don’t chase, you don’t ask “what’s bothering you?”

    I did very well without game. As a foreigner you’re already exotic. But that is not always the case and even if you’re in, you won’t maintain the relationship without game.

    With game, I’m much more successful.

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  207. They’re surprised by this because Asian guys are very logical

    That’s one way to say “honest”, in a sort of off-putting way. If you tried this with an well raised East Asian woman, she’d think you were a bit of a moron or childish- not that any of them would be casually dating a foreigner.

    if you can reframe that with non-answers it works. They think you’re funny.

    Those types of girls will laugh at anything.

    Asian girls are often much more feminine and basic in their emotions.

    I’m not so sure you guys actually know what feminine means.

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  208. on September 29, 2010 at 8:24 pm gunslingergregi

    Again truth it doesn’t matter if you can live in a dream on this world.

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  209. True, ignorance is bliss.

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  210. on September 29, 2010 at 8:28 pm gunslingergregi

    Your not explaining a downside just some feminist crap about some needs a college degree to be fuckable not so.

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  211. on September 29, 2010 at 8:41 pm gunslingergregi

    I am still trying to get a bitch to prove her degree is worthwhile it is pulling teeth he he he

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  212. What’s funny is that people that have “truth” in their nick invariably try to push some sort of bullshit agenda. It is kind of lame and a common knowledge that is is a screen, yet they still are doing it.

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  213. on September 29, 2010 at 8:50 pm gunslingergregi

    Truth is a man can work a bunch of hours and retire to a life of bliss.

    He just needs to overcome his need to feel like he owes some sort of production to the west he doesn’t.

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  214. on September 29, 2010 at 8:54 pm gunslingergregi

    Read a feminist web site tells you that woman got the homefront under control.

    Thank You feminists.

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  215. @Nicole

    Education is programming. Which is why the elite pay for a high quality programming or private education.

    Nationalism is patriotism and thinking one’s country has more value than another is a form of racism. Killing for your country while being dressed in uniform is considered honorable or patriotic, isn’t that covert racism?

    Everyone is racist and full of generalization, since we have to make assumptions to establish reality.

    Do you really think I give a flying fuck what government, conventional society or some feminist says? I thought you knew about psychopaths, stop reading wiki and citing movies.

    White race is the best, just look at how successful (Society’s sense) many of us are. We exploited others through slavery, colonialism and even banking.

    Who has the most wealth, fame and fortunate again?

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  216. on September 29, 2010 at 9:19 pm gunslingergregi

    Think about it without the anti-male laws in existance I might have only ever been a provider married male.

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  217. @A Equals A

    “Racism is the belief that the genetic factors which constitute race are a primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”

    A: “LOL. black girls can’t be ugly (by your estimation) and models at the same time. Dumbass. That means they are obviously attractive (but your bigotry stands in the way of full realization of the fact). Clear case of denial. Contradictions, contradictions.”

    Ever heard of affirmative action? Do you consider plus size models to be ideal too? You must be a real loser.

    A: “Thats probably not true. And you probably know that already lol.”

    If I knew that already, why would I say it? You must be a woman since you don’t believe in backing up statements using reliable sources. But trust me I feel right and God told me.

    A:”Thats not necessarily evidence for racism in your terms. Its just mass market appeal/pop culture. The majority of people in America (as of now) are white. Pop culture reflects, to a large extent, their preferences. Racism is blatant discrimination (in the face of equal talent or ability). There are plenty of hit shows that cater to black people, on BET for example.”

    Now that you brought up TV which group do you think has a higher median income? CNBC, ABC or CNN vs BET?

    USA, Canada, Western Europe (White majority), UN + WTO > Africa + AIDS + Genocide + Piracy

    I rest my case.

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  218. on September 29, 2010 at 9:23 pm gunslingergregi

    Feminists are kind of fighting for my rights in a way the right not to have woman use me as a cash register only for my whole life.

    I get to have some choice about how I want to live my life.

    Not just some traditional marriage to one pussy for life horrible deal for a man.

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  219. on September 29, 2010 at 9:26 pm gunslingergregi

    Some trick on the male mind to get him to work and slave for that one pussy too and then pay pussy tax on top of that.

    Really who helped open mens eyes to what was going on and how we could have so much more for ourselves than some predictable bland existance.

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  220. on September 29, 2010 at 9:29 pm gunslingergregi

    The feminists and equal opportunity did with how fucking idiotic the whole fucking thing is. It forces you to find another way to do things.

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  221. on September 29, 2010 at 9:30 pm gunslingergregi

    You can be the one that is holding up the system on your shoulders or the one benefitting from it.

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  222. The_King, UN is a joke. You can safely put it on the other side of the equation.

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  223. @Morsellaux,

    “I like to intoxicate my women by magic, using their own endorphins. It is an investment and it pays mighty.”

    Nice.

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  224. What, it’s like playing an organ. 🙂

    Nice? Hmmm, at least you did not say: “That’s so sweet!”

    LOl!

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  225. @walawala,

    I’m impressed, but there are just too many variables and influences that you can be thrown right off of your game without even knowing it. hehe!! Depending on the social status of the girls you are gaming…. in HK there are just too many variables.

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  226. http://mymanybags.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-many-bags-trendspotting-126.html

    here’s what an example of alpha body language guys.
    look, learn and be great betas.

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  227. @Morsellaux

    “What, it’s like playing an organ. 🙂

    Nice? Hmmm, at least you did not say: “That’s so sweet!”

    LOl!”

    I said it, but I just didn’t write it! hehe!!

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  228. Truth Speaker: “Nah, WM can’t get 5-7 “Asian girls” easy. It’s just that to white men, 1-2 Asian girls are 5-7s.”

    PUAs/wannabe PUAs keep saying things like this over, over, over and over again without realizing that they are completely illogical and irrational. For the millionth time, the 1-10 scale is 100 % subjective and has no objective or scientific basis.

    [Editor: Wrong. The 1-10 beauty scale is far more objective than it is subjective. “Truth speaker” is just speaking out of his ass.]

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  229. Y, who ya giggling at ?

    🙂

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  230. Truth Speaker

    How are asian women less feminine than white women?

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  231. Ah, what, caught you red handed! Now I know when you are lying… when your lips are moving! 🙂

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  232. chic noir, static pictures … does not show much… how to pose for camera with a mobile? 🙂

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  233. namae nanka, the “pravda” seeker wants to create an impression that asian chicks aren’t worthy, just the white chicks. For whatever reason.

    Either Nazi or feminazi.

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  234. Morsellaux,

    You’ll never know…..heheh!!

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  235. @what:

    @walawala,

    “”I’m impressed, but there are just too many variables and influences that you can be thrown right off of your game without even knowing it. hehe!! Depending on the social status of the girls you are gaming…. in HK there are just too many variables.””

    ‘in HK there are just too many variables”…

    This sounds exactly the kind of reverse Asian-girl game I hear all the time.

    Yes…HK women as soooooooooo complicated. There are soooooooo many variables.

    Great example of how good these girls are at gaming or trying to reverse-game.

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  236. @Chic

    The comments section, wild as usual. I don’t know if these guys are serious or just trollin’. LMAO, they that this ish way too seriously!

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  237. Whosoever is boasting about the beauty of Asian women is lying for sure; they cannot be compared to European girls from Nordic countries for marble like skin and sharp features. Chinky eyes of Japanese, Korean, Chinese….huh.

    And, guess what somebody says 1-2 Asian women is like 6-7…fellow you got to correct yourself or your eyesight or your test your wisdom!

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  238. What, I’d say it’s on a need to know basis… I don’t need to know! Heheh.

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  239. Great example of how good these girls are at gaming or trying to reverse-game.

    This reminds me a scene from one of the Indiana Jones flicks where some evil looking guy swooshes his sword that it is a blur and then IJ just pulls a gun and shoots him. 🙂

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  240. Truth Speaker
    Nah, WM can’t get 5-7 “Asian girls” easy. It’s just that to white men, 1-2 Asian girls are 5-7s.
    ———————-
    In 19 years living in Japan I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white man with a 1-2 (real ugly) Japanese woman. I’ve heard of it, but I’ve never seen it first hand. 5-7 is the objective norm for average white guys, with the occasional 8. The two natural alpha guys I hung out with when I was single dated lingerie models and aspiring pop stars.

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  241. In 19 years living in Japan I don’t think I’ve ever seen a white man with a 1-2 (real ugly) Japanese woman.

    For me it’s the opposite, I’ve never seen a real life white male with an East Asian woman that was at 8-10 or even a 7 (in Japan, China or Taiwan). They are at best average, and they score men who are about as educated as they are but wealthier and less unattractive. The Asian women that date white men are definitely ugly to very ugly on average, and the ugliest Asian woman I’ve ever seen in my life dated several white men in succession. Also, the fattest Asian woman I’ve ever seen in my life is also dating a white man. And the stupidest one I’ve ever met in my life, married to a white man.

    Sluttier, uglier, stupider, fatter Asian girls gravitate towards whites. Lighter skinned, intelligent, taller, healthier, better looking, etc girls go for their own.

    It’s the same with white girls too- Walmartians with ghetto trash, etc.

    The two natural alpha guys I hung out with when I was single dated lingerie models and aspiring pop stars.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean they are very attractive- “models” are a dime a dozen for cheap brands, and the vast majority of “aspiring pop stars” or idols are pretty plain looking.

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  242. Whosoever is boasting about the beauty of Asian women is lying for sure; they cannot be compared to European girls from Nordic countries for marble like skin and sharp features. Chinky eyes of Japanese, Korean, Chinese….huh.

    Not that you’ve ever been to China, or Scandinavia. You’re probably simply basing your perceptions off of google searches for “hot Swedish chicks”, yeah that’s not gonna work.

    First off, the best East Asians stay in East Asia. The best looking women (and men) are in the Chinese interior, and the outside world has next to no contact with them.

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  243. How are asian women less feminine than white women?

    I definitely didn’t say they were. I simply doubted that many of these men actually know what femininity is, or know anything about Asia, for that matter.

    Chinese women from different provinces, and Koreans, and Japanese, and Tibetans all have differences which they clearly do not understand.

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  244. @Morsellaux

    True, but I am pointing out that USA or WASPS run the show including every “world” organization that supports Africa by donating so much.

    Replace UN with Green Peace or Red Cross. NGOs seem to pwn GOs. Still run by White Caucasian males though.

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  245. Though I have not been to China but I have seen people in Thailand and I am pretty sure there is not much difference in terms of looks as people in the country are Mongoloids and have same features. Japanese could be slightly better in terms of looks among Mongoloids but Chinese!! No way!!

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  246. Though I have not been to China but I have seen people in Thailand and I am pretty sure there is not much difference in terms of looks as people in the country are Mongoloids and have same features. Japanese could be slightly better in terms of looks among Mongoloids but Chinese!! No way!!

    No way? Because your fairy tale-filled brain tells you so? Okay.

    Thais and North Chinese aren’t even the same race. The difference between North and Southeast Asians is equal to, if not greater than, the difference between Caucasoids and Negroids.

    Thais are heavily, heavily Southeast Asian with only a tiny amount of “Mongoloid” in them. The fact you actually think Japanese women are magically the most attractive is proof that you have not actually been to Japan (like I have) and just watch too much AV and hentai.

    Second, China is not homogeneous. Third, Mongoloids do not “have same features”. Only a true moron or ignoramus could really believe otherwise.

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  247. Not saying you’re a moron that is, I just don’t believe you could actually think that nonsense is true assuming you actually thought about how dumb it sounds.

    Yes, all 1,320,000,000 Chinese people look the same because Fox News/CNN/Hollywood tells me so. Also, race is a social construct and so is gender.

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  248. I have seen many Chinese women models going for therapies or operations for widening up their eyes so that they can possess big apple eyes. That shows two things, one, obsession for big eyes and two, inferiority complex for having small chinky eyes.

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  249. If you consider there are some objective features which make a person beautiful and attractive then these are sharp nose, broad forehead, pointed chin, big eyes, fair color, proportionate BMI, height, etc.

    In the above mentioned criteria where you put Japanese or Chinese vis-a-vis Nordics.

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  250. I have seen many Chinese women models going for therapies or operations for widening up their eyes so that they can possess big apple eyes. That shows two things, one, obsession for big eyes and two, inferiority complex for having small chinky eyes.

    Are you talking about blepharoplasty? I’ve seen far more white people get their hooked, concave, bumpy noses shaven down or trimmed or what not. Does that mean they want to be East Asian? No, get a clue. I know lots of South Asian women who get their skin lightened. Do they want to be white or have an inferiority for their dark, Afro-like skin?

    FYI Chinese women, in America, have rather large eyes. That’s because they’re from the south.

    beautiful and attractive then these are sharp nose, broad forehead, pointed chin, big eyes, fair color, proportionate BMI, height, etc.

    As far as noses go, North Chinese women do not have nasal humps, flared nostrils, pointy noses, concave noses, “beak” noses or “snub” noses like Caucasoid women. They tend to be fairly triangular, neither wide nor thin nostriled.

    As far as “broad forehead” goes, it is not a universal sign of attractiveness- but North Chinese/Sino-Tibetans once again have narrow skulls and indeed mildly protruding chins.

    Big eyes, once again not a universal sign of attractiveness- cow eyes are hideous and give off a look of stupidity. That said, North Chinese have fairly average sized eyes with a different shape- Northeast Asians have smaller eyes, but they’re not bad.

    Fair color, most Europeans are muddy and orange looking compared to inland Chinese.

    Proportionate BMI, whatever the hell that means, East Asians tend to have less body fat and it tends to accumulate in less exaggerated ways- the bone structure makes fat rather unforgiving on the face but elsewhere it’s fine.

    Height, average North Chinese male has been 5’9″-5’10” since neolithic times and the average Chinese urban woman has already reached the average height of women in the US.

    Again, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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  251. On the topic of body parts, but completely unrelated – does anybody know if there is a correlation between butt/hip size ie. junk and promiscuity? I find myself enjoying the view of an asian girl with junk and slightly wider hips (i know it’s not very common) the most. If she was asian and looked like kim kardashian, I’d melt.

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  252. How many women from Mongoloid race have won beauty pageants? According to your justifications, they should have been the most in demand chicks for all PUAs but they are not?

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  253. How many women from Mongoloid race even give a shit about Western beauty pageants?

    How many beauty pageant judges are “Mongoloid”?

    And are you implying PUAs have taste, or the money to travel, or that these women even want anything to do with them?

    North Chinese are among the most racially and culturally pure people in the world for a reason- their women don’t like subhuman invaders.

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  254. does anybody know if there is a correlation between butt/hip size ie. junk and promiscuity? I find myself enjoying the view of an asian girl with junk and slightly wider hips (i know it’s not very common)

    The only thing hip size (biiliac width) correlates to is, according to some, is some feminine traits. Promiscuous women are more likely to be non-East Asian, drug users, rate themselves as attractive, and have higher levels of testosterone.

    That and Asian isn’t a race, and wide hips is not rare in the North. Among Southeast Asians who are built like little girls, perhaps.

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  255. You are paranoid. Whether Mongoloid girls give shit to ‘Global Beauty Pageants’ or not, does not show that if they give they would be winner. Losers always watch game from outside and claim had they participated they would win. If you ask ugly duck to judge beautiful blonds how can he…same is case with Mongoloids!! May be putting them as judge would endanger the whole concept of beauty contest!!

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  256. @Truth Speaker
    The bright side of gaming traditional Asians….they really do prefer non-Asian men.

    No, they don’t. It’s actually the complete opposite. The traits that cause “Asian” women to gravitate toward their own men:

    Good looks, intelligence, loyalty, tradition

    The traits that cause them to gravitate towards others:

    White-washing, lack of contact other “Asians”, child-abuse, low self-esteem

    You must be some pathetic, bitter Asian male white-knighting Asian women and trying to protect their racial “honor”.

    What BS is this? Dead wrong.

    Asian girls can like non-Asians for the same reasons they like Asians (except tradition, which counts for, frankly, nothing. The approval of family may count for something).

    Loyalty:
    And Asian guys are famous for not being loyal. They screw around almost as a matter of course, the most alpha and the most weasely beta. 20% of China’s economy is based on getting tail outside of your marriage, and virtually all business entertainment of any kind. Korea has an absolutely vast underground world of sex and depravity; Japan is actually just insane.

    Intelligence: A well-places foreigner is in an excellent position if he’s smart. Better than most Asians in Asia (though not all, of course).

    Child abuse:
    Excuse me?

    Clearly, you’ve never actually dated or slept with Asian women.

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  257. Here’s a simple concept- not even 1% of “Mongoloid” women participate in auditioning, screening or viewing of beauty pageants.

    They are not watching from outside, or inside, or anywhere. What’s hard to understand- they are currently engaged in nation building, not beauty pageants. That is they have next to no free time.

    Are you going to tell me next that because India has only won 20 gold medals ever that Indians are, as a whole, a weak race?

    No, that would be stupid. Winning these contests are not a rigorous measure of inherent national beauty or athleticism, and the fact that you actually bring it up suggest that you might be mentally challenged.

    I’m still curious how you think a Chinese farmer girl is going to end up at a pageant in Los Angeles.

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  258. @Truth Speaker

    The point is, the point I was responding to was off. White men can not easily “game” 5-7 Asian girls. White men just think the 1-3s they are gaming are 5-7s.

    Some white guys end up with these. Different standards.

    But what really gets the goat of Asian guys is when the white guys get the women the Asian guys want.

    Which – frankly – happens all the time.

    And you can whine and moan about it, but if the girl is educated and interesting, and you have an international mindset, the classy, educated and very attractive Asian women are relatively easy to game for the right kind of white guy.

    Of course, they may eventually marry a schlubby, pasty, normal, boring Asian guy, but they dole out sex for him as a means of control, spend his money and these days, get divorced as easily as anyone else – and it’s almost always the woman leaving.

    So – your theory doesn’t hold any water at all.

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  259. What BS is this? Dead wrong.

    No, I’m right, and you’re a desperate weeaboo who won’t face reality like the “cougars” and multiculturalists and feminists.

    Asian girls can like non-Asians for the same reasons they like Asians

    Except rarely will you ever find the traits they value in expats.

    Asian girls can like non-Asians for the same reasons they like Asians (except tradition, which counts for, frankly, nothing.

    Except it does. Purity of blood and purity of culture is valued in North China and Korea, and somewhat in Japan.

    And Asian guys are famous for not being loyal.

    Yes because “Asian” is a race or a culture. East Asian men are far less likely to cheat than any other race of man.

    http://www.swivel.com/workbooks/20651-Poll-Number-of-Sexual-Partners

    China is at the very bottom of the list. They are also less likely to lie about cheating because they don’t have the same religious complexes about sex that white men do.

    STD rates tell you everything however- East Asians have the lowest STD rates of any race.

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  260. Which – frankly – happens all the time.

    No, it doesn’t.

    but if the girl is educated and interesting, and you have an international mindset, the classy, educated and very attractive Asian women are relatively easy to game for the right kind of white guy.

    Classy, educated, international- yet butt ugly, not very attractive. Yes, that happens quite a lot. Again, only you think these women are attractive.

    and these days, get divorced as easily as anyone else

    Wrong. Check the census. Actually, the Asian women who date out are more likely to divorce white men than Asian women married to Asian men- and simply marry the next one, to wring his trust fund dry.

    Asian-Asian pairings are the most stable, monogamous and content while interracial pairings of all kinds have high divorce rates- especially Asian woman/white man.

    So – your theory doesn’t hold any water at all.

    Except you haven’t provided any facts, just your weeaboo wishful thinking. Keep telling yourself that your 1-3 is a 5-7.

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  261. Here’s a simple concept- not even 1% of “Mongoloid” women participate in auditioning, screening or viewing of beauty pageants.//

    To put it differently women do not have rights to participate in beauty pageants for they are hugely suppressed by male chauvinists for centuries. Mao Tse Tung used to sleep with nubile girls when he was in late 60s that shows the pathetic state of mind of Mongoloids. Where girls are still earners for males and males sit (shit) doing nothing.

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  262. @Truth Seeker,

    First off, the best East Asians stay in East Asia. The best looking women (and men) are in the Chinese interior, and the outside world has next to no contact with them.

    Wrong.

    Even the Chinese think they’re in Korea. I’ve been all over Asia. China has lots of beauty, but Korea crushes China without serious difficulty in those stakes. What China has is more diversity, though. Korea has almost none.

    Japan: Much more diverse than Korea, and the women can be very beautiful, but the men still dream about Korean girls.

    S’Pore/HK: Not really. Though HK does collect a few very mercenary beautiful girls, … alas, the majority of the southern Chinese (from Guangdong, etc.) are very short, like the Vietnamese, tend to the anorexically thin (unlike the Koreans, who have that North Asian meaty look) and have little to no figure (again, unlike the North Asians, who have some heft to them). HK is great if you like tiny little women obsessed with the size of your wallet and intent on spending it.

    Those are the Asian countries I count.

    And the best East Asians *do* stay in Asia. But this hardly puts them off-limits. Most are eager for some strange when you get right down to it.

    I think you overestimate them.

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  263. To put it differently women do not have rights to participate in beauty pageants for they are hugely suppressed by male chauvinists for centuries.

    Speaking of ugly ducklings, you are 3-4. Dark skin, greasy looking, ugly sweater, facial features do not match, etc. You just ended your own argument.

    That said no, they are not male chauvinists. They are patriarchal- there is a difference. Chinese men did not torture, rape, enslave, invade or terrorize women of their own nations, or others.

    Caucasoids brutally raped, ethnically cleansed, enslaved and tortured women from the Crusades to the Viking Expansions to the Harems of the Arab and Persian and Turkic caliphates to the Age of Exploration to the Scramble for Africa to the Religious Wars up until the present (Iraq).

    You don’t know shit about history or culture, don’t even try it.

    Where girls are still earners for males and males sit (shit) doing nothing.

    East Asian men are the hardest working in the world (12-14 hour work days for men in China, Japan, Korea). Chinese men build cities, defend people from non-stop invasions, rescue and protect civilians after disasters, trade, farm, and they help take care of the children.

    This is unlike your dark-skinned South Asia where men sell women like chattel, burn them on funeral pyres, beat them senseless, and sit on their asses all day.

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  264. Wrong.

    No, right.

    Even the Chinese think they’re in Korea.

    Hahaha, no they don’t.

    I’ve been all over Asia.

    So have I, and I doubt you’ve been anywhere in China but the coasts.

    China has lots of beauty, but Korea crushes China without serious difficulty in those stakes.

    No, they do not. Well it depends, Koreans may be better looking and Southeastern Chinese, but they absolutely do not compare to Eastern Tibetans or North Chinese.

    What China has is more diversity, though. Korea has almost none.

    Again, wrong. Korea has several racial types, specifically Northeast Asian, North Chinese, and “Ainuid/proto-Caucasoid” not unlike the Japanese, sans the Austronesian component which makes the average Japanese less attractive than the average Korean.

    Most are eager for some strange when you get right down to it.

    No, they are not. Most are creeped out by foreigners.

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  265. Truth Speaker sounds like a bitter asian guy

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  266. You sound like an angry weeaboo. Don’t be afraid, I’m not an evil feminist white woman out to snatch your penis away and throw it in a meat grinder.

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  267. You determined that from my single seven word post?

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  268. The only type of person who would chance upon pure and unadulterated truth, and say “oh he’s a Nazi because he believes there is a genetic basis to race” or “he’s a misogynist because he realizes men value looks over everything” or “he’s a bitter asian guy because he’s letting me know my wife is a 1-3”.

    Delusional.

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  269. When Mongoloid women are given a choice then only they can choose Nordics (but again Nordics would not date them). In order to protect themselves from insecurity in case Mongoloid girls start leaving their menfolk men in East Asia keep them in prison like situation.

    Insecurity of Asian men can be seen from the fact that they do not let their women interact with much hot Europeans.

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  270. @ Truth Speaker
    At least I have guts to show my snap? Where is yours?

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  271. There is next to no contact between “Mongoloids” and “Nordics”, retard. North Chinese had contacts with them- guess what happened, their best women sold themselves as whores to our worst men to escape their brutal, barbaric, woman and child-killing “husbands” whose only merit was not killing her after raping her like her brother in laws.

    Insecurity of Asian men can be seen from the fact that they do not let their women interact with much hot Europeans.

    “Asian” men don’t restrict the movement of women, retard. That would be your barbaric Caucasoid “veiling” and wife-beating culture. East Asian women simply find you disgusting.

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  272. @Truth Speaker
    What BS is this? Dead wrong.

    No, I’m right, and you’re a desperate weeaboo who won’t face reality like the “cougars” and multiculturalists and feminists.

    Really?

    Well. I’ve been told, then.

    Asian girls can like non-Asians for the same reasons they like Asians

    Except rarely will you ever find the traits they value in expats.

    Okay, I guess that explains the massive 400% increase in marriages to just one foreign country – Canadians – and 350% increase in marriages to another – Australians – in the past 5 years here in Korea.

    And the fact that, on the ground, mixed couples aren’t just more common, they’re almost uninteresting now. Not the case 15 years ago; and the Koreans are the most xenophobic of the lot.

    In China, it’s a sexual free-for-all. When there, my assumption was that all women were available, regardless of marriage status, attractiveness or class.

    In fact, I found the more attractive and higher-class women who were married were, if anything, much *more* available (especially in the Shanghai-Triangle) area than any other women.

    Other expats had similar experiences.

    I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. I lived there for years, and even by Asian standards, I never slept with any woman less than 6 on anyone’s scale. Almost all of them were extremely well-educated, intelligent, and could have a range of Asian men they wanted (and often did, concurrently).

    So with all due respect, … you’re spewing bullshit.

    When you speak the language, too, it’s time to clean up.

    Not all expats are dweeby English teachers, dude. In fact, most aren’t.

    Asian girls can like non-Asians for the same reasons they like Asians (except tradition, which counts for, frankly, nothing.

    Except it does. Purity of blood and purity of culture is valued in North China and Korea, and somewhat in Japan.

    I’m not saying who they’ll marry. I’m talking about who they sleep with.

    They fuck around as much, if not more, than Western girls – and as a foreigner, you’re not part of their social networks, so they can get away with anything with you.

    They’ll also often go on and say how loyal, upstanding and great their BFs are, but how boring and unmanly these guys can be. I get this consistently.

    And this is true even in Korea, where the men actually have some balls and aren’t completely weenie.

    God help women when they find a masculine, not unattractive, smart Asian guy– with Game.

    That guy cleans up. But the same traits in a white guy – cleans up more.

    I’ve lived in Korea (where I am now, on business), China and a little in Japan, and I can guarantee you:

    The hottest Asian women are absolutely, most definitely available, and like hot women anywhere, you absolutely need to bring game.


    And Asian guys are famous for not being loyal.

    Yes because “Asian” is a race or a culture. East Asian men are far less likely to cheat than any other race of man.

    http://www.swivel.com/workbooks/20651-Poll-Number-of-Sexual-Partners

    China is at the very bottom of the list. They are also less likely to lie about cheating because they don’t have the same religious complexes about sex that white men do.

    STD rates tell you everything however- East Asians have the lowest STD rates of any race.

    Really?

    Have you ever actually been to, or lived in, an Asian country?

    1) The STD rates are largely lies. I do documentary work in China. NO stat about any subject can be trusted there. There are whole regions filled to bursting with dying AIDS patients. HIV is spreading like wildfire. Within 15 years, it will hit the news, if China lets it.

    2) Drug use is now a huge and massively growing problem in China. The spread of heroin is often abetted by the army and the police. In some provinces, the government authorities are actively involved in profiteering.

    3) Most Asian men I met don’t consider going to a prostitute or Karaoke or bar girl cheating. This is a region-wide effect. On the other hand, the heavy hand of prostitution is absolutely everywhere. In Korea, it’s a huge chunk of the economy and the culture is two-faced in the extreme: Conservative on the outside, randy as shit on the inside.Most subway stops with any population in Seoul have huge red-light districts; Love hotels are heavily populated with fornicating teenagers but also cheating spouses on a mass scale; Korean husbands and wives rarely have sex after kids, but they’re getting it somewhere for sure (especially the men), …

    In China, the nice girls you meet almost assuredly have 1-4 “friends” on the side. The big-city girls are just as slutty than the big-city girls in the US.

    You’re deluding yourself if you think there’s any loyalty there. There’s more machiavellian self-interested calculation going on in the head of a girl from Suzhou or Shanghai or even Beijing than there is in a single girl on the prowl in NYC.

    Just because she doesn’t tell you she banged a foreigner a month ago doesn’t mean she didn’t.

    I don’t think you lived in the same Asia that I did. And that I visit all the time. And where I know actual women from all walks of life – from airline stewardesses to office ladies or news reporters.

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  273. At least I have guts to show my snap

    Guts? You’re just one ugly, linguistically incompetent loser in a sea of ugly losers, you have nothing to lose.

    That isn’t guts. Nordic America blows up millions of you darkies every decade and doesn’t even bat an eye, you really should stop worshiping them and being such a self-hating house nigger.

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  274. @ Truth Speaker

    Well I’m white. Personally I don’t like asian women although I have slept with them. I went to a UC and asian women just threw themselves at me. Since I graduated I have avoided them.

    Its generally pretty easy to see that asian women flock to white men at an amazing rate. And I think your attempt to present this ideal asian male loyal asian female type of exquisite beauty is an exercise in pure conjecture.

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  275. Some time back Prince Edward of England had said that he would not prefer to visit China for he has dislike for people with chink eyes. A great uproar happened and he was asked to apologize.

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  276. I went to a UC and asian women just threw themselves at me.

    Isn’t that what ugly whores do? Which UC, by the way? I’m not even talking about the Southeast Asians.

    And I think your attempt to present this ideal asian male loyal asian female type of exquisite beauty is an exercise in pure conjecture.

    Yeah and your attempt to present these fifth rate, ten cent Southeast Asian sucky sucky hoes as exquisite beauties North and Northeast Asian men envy you for is pretty futile.

    lawyerjourno
    Some time back Prince Edward of England had said that he would not prefer to visit China for he has dislike for people with chink eyes. A great uproar happened and he was asked to apologize.

    Who the fuck is Prince Edward? Is he that same guy who said he disliked darkies like you because you are lanky mouth breathers with such a talent for sucking white cock that he might lose his upon leaving the plane?

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  277. Can’t blame chinese losers like Truth Seeker for trolling. They have to do something with that useless testosterone.

    “Nation build” all you want chicom bozo. Then try and take Taiwan and after the US military is done with your mao-addled polluted dump of a country you’ll need more than cheap chinese drywall to re-build your slums.

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  278. @ Truth Speaker
    Your abuses and randomness shows that you have become obnoxious and spoiled your head. Hahahaha!! Go and have some sleep buddy! Barbaric Genghis Khan!!

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  279. @Truth Speaker

    I like your name. It’s like “The People’s Democratic Republic of North Korea”

    Which – frankly – happens all the time.

    No, it doesn’t.

    But it does. I’m here. I see it. I experience it. All you need to do is open your eyes.

    but if the girl is educated and interesting, and you have an international mindset, the classy, educated and very attractive Asian women are relatively easy to game for the right kind of white guy.

    Classy, educated, international- yet butt ugly, not very attractive. Yes, that happens quite a lot. Again, only you think these women are attractive.

    Really?

    I guess women who make it onto Korean TV are ugly, then.

    and these days, get divorced as easily as anyone else

    Wrong. Check the census. Actually, the Asian women who date out are more likely to divorce white men than Asian women married to Asian men- and simply marry the next one, to wring his trust fund dry.

    Koreans are divorcing in the same numbers as Americans. The Japanese have been there for a long time, when they get married at all.

    The Chinese lie, but the Chinese family unit is well-known to be under vicious assault.

    And there are other ways, too: There are lots of families in which the women just start ignoring their husbands – and get their sex elsewhere. *Lots* of them.

    A common complaint among married men in places like SHanghai is that they get nothing from their wives, and they suspect the women are getting it elsewhere.

    Asian-Asian pairings are the most stable, monogamous and content while interracial pairings of all kinds have high divorce rates- especially Asian woman/white man.

    You don’t live in China today or Korea or Japan. In Japan, the pairing of any kind are deeply unstable. Korea is rapidly approaching Japan in these stats, though you wonder why – husbands and wives rarely have enough contact on a daily basis to even argue – and there’s nothing of any kind that can be said about China that isn’t untrue somewhere else in China.

    I’m only familiar with the urban life in the big cities on the coast. I won’t speak to village or town life or Chengdu or other such places.

    So – your theory doesn’t hold any water at all.

    Except you haven’t provided any facts, just your weeaboo wishful thinking. Keep telling yourself that your 1-3 is a 5-7.

    Really?

    I guess ugly girls get to work for Asiana or Korean Airlines. And get to be on Korean TV.

    Sorry. I’d debate you, but the most obvious you’ve never lived in these places and seen the women and dated them.

    Like I said – not all expats are dweeby English teachers.

    And it’s entirely possible to acquire the hottest of Asian girls.

    You’ll find that Asian women are, shock and horror, …

    Women.

    And they have a lot of loyalty to their own interests as women anywhere, and often this conflicts with their “racial” loyalties.

    I’ve never found an easier or more aesthetically amazing place than Korea, among all the Asian countries, and I’ve never, ever found a place where attractibe women were more open to sleeping with foreigners, either – and I lived in France.

    There’s so much sex going on here, you have to be nearly stone-cold dead not to get laid.

    And while the hottest girls require severe social proof (often difficult for foreigners anywhere) and massive game, all you need is the right social context —

    And most will absolutely bed you, if not date you.

    And these are the very hot ones the Koreans want.

    All of the foreigners have the same story.

    I hate to break it to you – even some pop stars have been known to mix it up. It gets into the press from time to time.

    I’m not talking about happy, stable marriages. Just sex. Lots of it.

    But the foreigners who *do* get married, often to quite attractive women, certainly more attractive than their equivalents in the West, and who learn the language/stay in Asia usually stay with their women.

    One problem: All of the married foreigners I know in Korea have a problem with being able to get as much sex outside their marriage as they could want. In fact, it’s hard to keep track. One quite handsome fellow has a harem of women he has stashed all over the city – I’ve seen two of them, and they’re Korean-Standard hot – and a wife, as well. She has no idea, but there’s not much she could do: it’s standard practice for a guy who *can* do this, especially for foreigners, because, wait for it —

    It’s so damned easy.

    It’s just as easy for foreigners to game hot Asian women more attractive than they are than it is in the West.

    You live in an unrealistic bubble. Take a walk down the streets of actual places like Seoul sometime.

    The chicks white guys are with are often unattractive; but the attractive ones fuck around exactly as much as anyone else, and white guys with game/smarts/looks are in much higher demand than the same in Asian guys.

    Your choice not to believe me, but 5 years in Asia (not teaching English) — the sociological facts on the ground are undeniable.

    The only men who compared in choice are returning Gyopo foreign-Koreans who are 1) Handsome, 2) Armed with good university degrees and 3) Well-employed. They clean the ground better than white guys, easily, and only date the hottest girls they can get.

    The white guys still get to fuck those girls, though, almost certainly.

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  280. @blight
    Actually with children like look of Mongoloid girls pedophiles like Truth Speaker are quite happy. Dumb ass child molesters do not have access to Nordic women and that pisses them off!

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  281. Yeah, after your limp dicked attempts to nerd-insult an entire race of people, constant use of racial slurs, and insults/grudge against all “Mongoloids”.

    Go munch on some curry, but don’t be late for your job at the call center, untouchable darkie jungle nigger scum.

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  282. Dumb ass child molesters do not have access to Nordic women and that pisses them off!

    That’s one of your jungle nigger obsessions. It’s typical for you untouchable slumdogs to take your rage out on people who have never bothered you because of your immense inferiority complex to this “Nordic” myth.

    Gorbachev
    But it does. I’m here. I see it. I experience it. All you need to do is open your eyes.

    You see it? You with no taste in East Asians whatsoever? Nah all I’d have to do is gouge my eyes out and undergo 20 years of media brainwashing.

    I guess women who make it onto Korean TV are ugly, then.

    You think all women on Korean TV are attractive?

    Koreans are divorcing in the same numbers as Americans.

    Nope.

    There are lots of families in which the women just start ignoring their husbands – and get their sex elsewhere. *Lots* of them.

    In your Southeast Asian titty films, perhaps.

    And it’s entirely possible to acquire the hottest of Asian girls.

    Yeah and I’m sure a chimp felt up Jane Goodall’s ass once or twice and thought he was pretty “alpha” so to speak. No, it’s not. It’s possible for you to delude yourself into thinking a tramp is made of pure gold though.

    and often this conflicts with their “racial” loyalties.

    Delusional.

    and I’ve never, ever found a place where attractibe women were more open to sleeping with foreigners

    Whorehouses are meant to be open, if you get my drift.

    often to quite attractive women, certainly more attractive than their equivalents in the West

    This is because the women back home are cows. That doesn’t mean the uggos and 5s are attractive by Korean standards.

    I’ve seen two of them, and they’re Korean-Standard hot – and a wife, as well.

    Every white loser talks about his “handsome foreign friend” has “so many hot Asian babes waiting on him”. Does this friend of yours happen to be imaginary?

    It’s just as easy for foreigners to game hot Asian women more attractive than they are than it is in the West.

    No, it’s not. That’s your delusion talking. I have never once seen an attractive East Asian women with a white guy, I have also never once seen a white guy think his average or ugly Asian wife was anything but smoking hot.

    but the attractive ones fuck around exactly as much as anyone else

    No, they don’t. Only in your porno fantasies.

    The white guys still get to fuck those girls, though, almost certainly.

    Right and Bobo the Chimp got to fuck blonde Norwegian bikini models.

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  283. @Truth Speaker

    I am a good looking guy. I am able to get attractive white women with only a small amount of game.

    You are going to find any excuse not to believe me, but I had tall, light skinned, attractive koreans and chinese throwing themselves at me, and even a few japanese though there were not as many around. The asian population was mostly chinese and koreans, very few southeast asians.

    I’m sure you will find some imagined flaws to imbue on these women.

    My issue with asian women is I mostly just don’t like their personalities or asian culture. I just bond more naturally with white women.

    I’m not sure I believe Gorbachev’s posts. They almost sound like a nerd fantasy. However I don’t know much about asia so maybe he is telling the truth. But I definitely regularly see nerdy white guys with fairly attractive asian women.

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  284. @Truth Speaker

    Wrong.

    No, right.

    Even the Chinese think they’re in Korea.

    Hahaha, no they don’t.

    Korean women are the most sought-after, desired and demanded women in Asia. I lived in Shanghai for a year and universally, the Koreans studying and living there were aggressively – almost obsessively – courted by every Chinese male with red blood.

    When I said I lived in Seoul for 3 years, most men told me I was a lucky bastard – all those gorgeous Korean women.

    What the hell are you talking about?

    Same was true in Japan. As you know doubt know, of course, the Japanese women have a mild fetish for Korean men, who are seen as more masculine and romantic. But the young Japanese men all thought the Korean girls were the bomb.

    Bets proportions in Asia, fair skin, poise, class – Chinese descriptions of Koreans. And no more materialistic than Chinese big-city girls.

    Sorry, your statements may be true in your world, but in mine, dead wrong.

    ’ve been all over Asia.

    So have I, and I doubt you’ve been anywhere in China but the coasts.

    This is my point.

    I actually said this: The Nanjing/Suzhou/Shanghai triangle, Beijing, but also Wuhan and Shenzhen.

    Korea. Japan.

    In China, having a Korean GF was considered a major mark of social status. The public perception is that this is the country of gorgeous girls. Korean women are outrageously popular throughout Asia for the same reason. Having a Korean wife was a mark of success. An “Ooh-ahh” moment with the men you met. I was told repeatedly by various men that the reason they studied the language was to get some kind of connection with Korea – because they wanted a Korean wife/woman. These weren’t loser Chinese guys.

    China has lots of beauty, but Korea crushes China without serious difficulty in those stakes.

    No, they do not. Well it depends, Koreans may be better looking and Southeastern Chinese, but they absolutely do not compare to Eastern Tibetans or North Chinese.

    Really?

    Not according to the Beijing men I know. The Korean girls are the hottest commodity in North China, too. They go to Beijing to study Chinese, are swarmed by Northern Chinese guys.

    The public perception (through the media) fans these flames like wildfires.

    Sorry, Koreans all over Asia have the perception of having the most beautiful women. It was the single most consistent meme outside of Korea pertaining to Koreans, more common than perceptions of the place as being the home of LG or Samsung or not wanting to work for a Korean company because they’re all bastards.

    I don’t think your experience of Asia was the same as mine. I integrated into Korea (and partly into China) pretty effectively, and I got it from all sides.

    What China has is more diversity, though. Korea has almost none.

    Again, wrong. Korea has several racial types, specifically Northeast Asian, North Chinese, and “Ainuid/proto-Caucasoid” not unlike the Japanese, sans the Austronesian component which makes the average Japanese less attractive than the average Korean.

    That’s splitting hairs. You want to get that specific?

    We can have post-long discussions about who precisely built the Goindol monoliths scattered across the formerly large Korean culture zone, we can argue the minutiae of Korean “types”, we can even discuss the links between the Koreans and the Siberian/Shaman past – and the potential links to the rest of the pre-contact PAcific Rim–

    You sound all big, but here you know you’re just splitting hairs. There are a few body/facial/structure types in Korea;

    *relative* to China, there’s no diversity here. That’s not an unfair statement. China is a world in and unto itself, a world made of worlds, actually.

    I wasn’t talking about blood-type distributions or genetic analyses. I was talking about what appears to be on the surface.

    I’ve traveled all over Korea – from Andong to the backwaters of Jeolla to the East Sea and back – many times. I spent lots of time in Pusan, was amused by the quaint dialect, have touched the noses of Harubang on Jeju, spent countless thousands of hours on the Seoul subway system, taken virtually every bus in the country, …

    And I’ve done the same in Shanghai and Beijing.

    And I can tell you with absolute certainty:

    You can tell a Korean immediately. Just by the way they look. It’s not even challenging. They have a few “looks” and once you’re familiar with them, you can pick the Korean out in a crowd in the middle of HK or Guangzhou with ease.

    My point still stands.

    Most are eager for some strange when you get right down to it.

    No, they are not. Most are creeped out by foreigners.

    Really?

    I’m sure this is what they tell their men to keep them happy.

    I guarantee you, sir, the hot ones are as easy to game as anyone else. Anywhere in the world.

    They have no more racial loyalty than white women. Their loyalties are entirely to themselves.

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  285. I am a good looking guy.

    I am a supermodel.

    I am able to get attractive white women with only a small amount of game.

    I fuck Martian queens on a regular basis.

    I had tall, light skinned, attractive koreans and chinese throwing themselves at me

    Except there are next to no tall or light skinned Koreans and Chinese outside of Korea and especially China.

    My issue with asian women is I mostly just don’t like their personalities or asian culture. I just bond more naturally with white women.

    Probably because the girls you are dating were self-hating, mentally disturbed girls like most Asian girls that go after white boys.

    But I definitely regularly see nerdy white guys with fairly attractive asian women.

    That’s proof that you have low standards for Asian women. The nerdy guys these girls go for are often a far better catch than they’d be able to manage if they were actually trying to compete with the real good looking girls for a proper East Asian guy.

    I mean there’s no way to settle this because it’s too hard on your egos. The only thing I can think of is going on Facebook and randomly taking pictures of the wide-nostriled, dark skinned midgets most white guys think are flaming hot.

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  286. Korean women are the most sought-after, desired and demanded women in Asia.

    No, they are not. If they were the most sought after, Hong Kongers would have bought them by the millions already. Hong Kong men, more or less the wealthiest people on the planet, go to North China for a reason.

    the Japanese women have a mild fetish for Korean men, who are seen as more masculine and romantic.

    There’s one thing you got right. Sadly the media is not always realistic.

    I actually said this: The Nanjing/Suzhou/Shanghai triangle, Beijing, but also Wuhan and Shenzhen.

    Korea. Japan.

    Nanjing/Suzhou/Shanghai/Beijing/Wuhan not bad. Shenzhen, eh would rather not say. The Northern interior is where the best looking East Asians and Asians period are.

    The Korean girls are the hottest commodity in North China, too. They go to Beijing to study Chinese, are swarmed by Northern Chinese guys.

    That’s funny because the Beijinger I talked to said they were ugly as shit. I think they were being mean though so I didn’t take it seriously. You are obviously making shit up, however, again to further delude yourself about how “hot” your “Asian babe” is.

    *relative* to China, there’s no diversity here. That’s not an unfair statement. China is a world in and unto itself, a world made of worlds, actually.

    You’re gonna find more diversity going from one end of Korea to the other than you are touring the entirety of the Loess Plateau. That isn’t splitting hairs- it’s a huge chasm of racial difference that you don’t perceive because of your media conditioning.

    I’m sure this is what they tell their men to keep them happy.

    Nah, they tell that to their girlfriends and family.

    I guarantee you, sir, the hot ones are as easy to game as anyone else. Anywhere in the world.

    No, and you’re full of shit. East Asian women aren’t easy to “game” for anyone. The best ones are in monogamous relationships and do not sleep around. I don’t see what’s so hard to comprehend, they are the least promiscuous and slutty of all people on the planet.

    They have no more racial loyalty than white women. Their loyalties are entirely to themselves.

    Keep telling that to yourself.

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  287. @blight
    Truth Speaker sounds like a bitter asian guy

    Doesn’t he ever?

    He apparently has no contact with actual Asian women. Or, like all of the Asian women I knew, know and have heard about, he’s told one thing by them and they turn around and laugh about these Asian guys who are so lame – so easy to fool.

    I’ve seen Asian girls, the apparently sweet girl with nothing but innocence between her eyes – say one thing to a devoted Beta Asian male who is decent and nice, and then go to a love hotel with her BF (white, Asian, whatever) and fuck his brains out, then come back all sweet and nice.

    I think Asian guys have this complex, I don’t know why it is, in which they desperately need to defend the honor of their women, when in fact, their women are busy feathering their own nests and doing whatever the hell they want to.

    So it’s just “those” kinds of girls – when I’ve found that the easiest to game are the ones that *seem* innocent and sweet and nice.

    When you get them, they’re wild and seemingly overjoyed at not having to protect their face or hide behind cultural obsessions of purity.

    There’s a core of frigid, relatively unadventurous women, of course – but that’s true everywhere.

    By and large, Asian males feel the desperate need to believe:

    All white guys get are the ugly ones (demonstrably not true if you live in Asia)

    Asian girls are less slutty and more sweet than Western girls.

    Both of these are absolute myths. I’ve been with enough Asian women to know that this is dead wrong. I’ve been with Asian wives. I’ve been with women – attractive by Asian standards – who look like paragons of purity in everyday life, and who know exactly what they want when they find it.

    These Asian guys have these sweet, charming little GFs, and they have *NO* idea what they get up to.

    I actually feel bad for them – the Asian “innocent girls” are virtually impossible to distinguish from the ones who aren’t.

    I hear women laughing about it. Men are so easy. All the time, they tell me – well, I have male “friends”.

    You hear this, and you know what it means.

    The bitter Asian guys would be better of learning game and manning up instead of pretending.

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  288. Roosh V puts Asian girls above to Asian males in terms attractiveness rankings for the reason that Asian womens themselves do not like to date Asian men for they are so effeminate.

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  289. Here are some 1-3 asian women only white men find attractive (according to Truth Speaker)


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  290. Or, like all of the Asian women I knew, know and have heard about, he’s told one thing by them and they turn around and laugh about these Asian guys who are so lame – so easy to fool.

    Proof that you are delusional. You have this fantasy of “Asian” women that you just won’t let go of. Whatever gets you off.

    I’ve seen Asian girls, the apparently sweet girl with nothing but innocence between her eyes – say one thing to a devoted Beta Asian male who is decent and nice, and then go to a love hotel with her BF (white, Asian, whatever) and fuck his brains out, then come back all sweet and nice.

    Sounds like a rare subset of Japanese girls, and the vast majority of them are sleeping with Japanese men on the side, not whites.

    I think Asian guys have this complex

    Luckily someone who knows nothing about Asia, your opinion is meaningless.

    when I’ve found that the easiest to game are the ones that *seem* innocent and sweet and nice.

    No, those would be the dumb sluts that play up the “kawaii” nonsense to get into white guy’s wallets. The classy girls don’t do much playing cute.

    All white guys get are the ugly ones (demonstrably not true if you live in Asia)

    No, demonstrably true if you are not blind, retarded or delusional.

    Asian girls are less slutty and more sweet than Western girls.

    They are. They’re less slutty than everyone.

    Both of these are absolute myths. I’ve been with enough Asian women to know that this is dead wrong. I’ve been with Asian wives. I’ve been with women – attractive by Asian standards – who look like paragons of purity in everyday life, and who know exactly what they want when they find it.

    Hahahaha nerd fantasy. Get psychiatric help. I can’t believe they let creeps like you teach English over there.

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  291. Roosh V puts Asian girls above to Asian males in terms attractiveness rankings for the reason that Asian womens themselves do not like to date Asian men for they are so effeminate.

    Is he a retarded call-center untouchable monkey like you? I wouldn’t trust his judgment then.

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  292. @blight
    @Truth Speaker

    I am a good looking guy. I am able to get attractive white women with only a small amount of game.

    You are going to find any excuse not to believe me, but I had tall, light skinned, attractive koreans and chinese throwing themselves at me, and even a few japanese though there were not as many around. The asian population was mostly chinese and koreans, very few southeast asians.

    It’s hugely important for Asian guys to believe that their precious North-East Asian women are purer, more beautiful (they are at that), and more loyal.

    In fact, this is as untrue as it is anywhere. But it’s part of their desperate identity.

    The white guys who live in these areas and make even the smallest attempts at integrating or looking like a desirable guy score hot women all the time. Often, it’s just for sex, so the BAMs (Bitter Asian Males) write them off as sluts –

    But the sluts never, ever tell the BAMs that they’re sluts. They’re virtually impossible to tell from the nice girls. They have a lifetime of hiding every possible emotion they have from society: they can tool Asian guys as fast as jump on a subway. They fuck with them for fun. The Chinese are the worst for this, the Japanese the most direct (“We going to a hotel or not?” – but that’s Japan, it’s just bizarre), and the Koreans the most two-faced.

    But the BAMs will say whatever they can to assuage their tiny little egos. Either the women are all ugly, or they’re sluts.

    Or both.

    So, by the definition of BAM, the mere fact of having had been with a foreigner males a girl a slut, or ugly.

    Once you define it that way, you do get a core group of women who didn’t do this or won’t. They likely won’t get it on with an Asian guy, either. And they represent a small minority of the population.

    The BAMs just don’t get it. They really hate it deep down. There are so many foreigners in places like Seoul, so many mixed marriages now, and sex is so freely available to any guy who even tries – and not just with sluts, no matter what the BAMs say, even with the quality, high-class, educated women with money – that it baffles the imagination.

    As a white guy, you automatically get a +2 point bonus. If you bring the rest, you start to score hard all the time. You almost can’t avoid it.

    Delusional BAMs that need to lie to themselves.

    I’m sure you will find some imagined flaws to imbue on these women.

    This is what the BAMs do. Eventually, they’ll run out of Asian women without these critical flaws.

    My issue with asian women is I mostly just don’t like their personalities or asian culture. I just bond more naturally with white women.

    I’m not sure I believe Gorbachev’s posts. They almost sound like a nerd fantasy. However I don’t know much about asia so maybe he is telling the truth. But I definitely regularly see nerdy white guys with fairly attractive asian women.

    You don’t need to believe me – just come to Asia. Seriously, any guy who’s lived in Korea, Japan or China will back me all the time. There’s no way not to. I just report what I see and did.

    *IT SOUNDS* like a nerdy fantasy because it *IS*. It’s unbelievable. I had no interest in Asian women before I moved here, ever, not even any real exposure, and once I did, I actually couldn’t believe it. I’d never have credited it for a moment.

    You have to actually be here to believe it. It’s like some kind of nerdlish fantasy come true.

    If you’re *not* nerdy, holy crap, it’s just 10x better. Shocking. Nobody believes me, but it’s true.

    One rule:

    Don’t be black.

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  293. It’s hugely important for Asian guys to believe that their precious North-East Asian women are purer, more beautiful (they are at that), and more loyal.

    Yeah, they are. Fewer STDs, less divorce.

    The white guys who live in these areas and make even the smallest attempts at integrating or looking like a desirable guy score hot women all the time.

    If by hot, you mean ugly women or prostitutes. They’re the only pussy a pathetic white loser can get, so the PWLs describe them as incredibly hot sex goddesses. Strangely enough not even one of these men can substantiate a single claim they ever make nor provide evidence of these “hot” women sleeping with them.

    All we can see is huge pile of uglies and their white nerd husbands pushing their freakish looking mixed-race babies up and down carts. Honestly I feel sorry for these psychos and degenerates- even white society at large subconsciously despises these couples.

    The BAMs just don’t get it. They really hate it deep down. There are so many foreigners in places like Seoul, so many mixed marriages now, and sex is so freely available to any guy who even tries – and not just with sluts, no matter what the BAMs say, even with the quality, high-class, educated women with money – that it baffles the imagination.

    Keep dreaming.

    Don’t be black.

    Trying to cockblock the blacks? Blacks always talk about how white wimmin and Asian wimmin n’ Indian wimmin lOOOOVE dem some dat black cawk WIF UH cappytal L.

    No, they don’t, and you’re just as delusional as that guy.

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  294. From the land of Pol Pot what can you expect, a Truth Speaker who is so disillusioned that he thinks limp dick of Genghis Khan could have produced Cleopatra. With average dick size of 3′ you just can imagine what you do with your women? Your women jonesing for Caucasian dick is obvious!

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  295. I tried to post photos but my comment is in moderation.

    By and large, Asian males feel the desperate need to believe:

    All white guys get are the ugly ones (demonstrably not true if you live in Asia)

    Asian girls are less slutty and more sweet than Western girls.

    This is a natural psychological reaction for men who are not at the top of their racial dating pool and are therefore highly threatened by outdating.

    Asian women have the least preference for dating their own race of any women. This gives asian men a reduced dating pool, and so they are the most threatened by the situation. I’m sure the situation is even more acute in China which already has a lopsided male female ratio.

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  296. Pol Pot isn’t Mongoloid. He’s a darkie untouchable call-center nigger like you.

    With average dick size of 3′

    Talking about Caucasoids?

    http://img519.imageshack.us/f/japanus.jpg/

    Your women jonesing for Caucasian dick is obvious!

    The only one jonesing for Caucasian dick is you and your family, up and down 5 generations, you Raj serving slaves.

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  297. Asian women have the least preference for dating their own race of any women.

    Non-Vietnamese Southeast Asians predominantly. And in their own countries, they are far, far less likely to date foreigners.

    I’m sure the situation is even more acute in China which already has a lopsided male female ratio.

    Except it’s not, because the vast majority of Chinese women do not date foreigners- when they do, 95% of them marry other East Asians (Hong Kongers and Japanese usually). The remaining 5% have high divorce rates.

    And this is Shanghai, China’s most multiculti polluted city.

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  298. Yeah yeah, gaming asian girls.

    Can we get back to posts of gaming attractive women now please?

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  299. @Truth Speaker
    Korean women are the most sought-after, desired and demanded women in Asia.

    No, they are not. If they were the most sought after, Hong Kongers would have bought them by the millions already. Hong Kong men, more or less the wealthiest people on the planet, go to North China for a reason.

    Don’t know about HK and the tastes there. Can’t speak to it.

    Never lived in HK, just passed through. Experience in S’pore is also limited, though more than HK. Not a great place for women, Singapore.

    But I’m pretty damned familiar with the Chinese coast.

    The Japanese women have a mild fetish for Korean men, who are seen as more masculine and romantic.

    There’s one thing you got right. Sadly the media is not always realistic.

    I get it all right. I read/write Korean, speak it fluently, have constant contact with Koreans and Chinese – I work with many, all over the region, from all walks of life. I interview them. I spend time researching cultural trends. I work closely with advertisers.

    You want truths?

    Ignore the social scientists and go to the advertisers. They know exactly what they need to know to sell shit.

    Don’t talk to me about knowing or not knowing my world.

    You sound like a bitter overseas Chinese male with delusions of grandeur. Bitter at all the white dudes or laughing at them.

    Well, I’ve never slept with a less than 6 by Asian standards woman in Asia, most of them 7’s-8’s and highly desired by other men, and I’ve never encoutered your Sluts or Whores or Ugly Sluts.

    I do have some standards.

    I used a fair bit of game, sure. I translated it to match local conditions. I also had a decent job and I’m not ugly (though not hugely attractive).

    It’s so damned easy here, I can guarantee you one thing:

    If I want to, put me in a social situation, and I’m now intimately familiar enough with the culture to be able to suss out the situation, identify a desirable woman and determine what will best work, and in a short time, have initiated a romance.

    It’s called Game.

    And, as human females, it works as well, if not better, on Asian women than it does on women anywhere.

    And yes, dude – white guys can score the hot Asian chicks if they want to. Absolutely. No question.

    The ones that make the Bitter Asian Males spew bile.

    I actually said this: The Nanjing/Suzhou/Shanghai triangle, Beijing, but also Wuhan and Shenzhen.

    Korea. Japan.

    Nanjing/Suzhou/Shanghai/Beijing/Wuhan not bad.

    Suzhou is fantastic, as is Nanjing. Also, the women in Nanjing tend to be more sophisticated, smarter and as such, easier to game. Also very classy: dating them is a massive treat after the materialistic near-whores that almost all Shanghai girls are.

    Shenzhen, eh would rather not say. The Northern interior is where the best looking East Asians and Asians period are.

    I’ve been to Mongolia. Attractive women, but not the best-looking, by any measure.

    I agree with Shenzhen. Actually, it’s very diverse, mostly transient/new. Hard to say anything about it.

    The Korean girls are the hottest commodity in North China, too. They go to Beijing to study Chinese, are swarmed by Northern Chinese guys.

    That’s funny because the Beijinger I talked to said they were ugly as shit. I think they were being mean though so I didn’t take it seriously. You are obviously making shit up, however, again to further delude yourself about how “hot” your “Asian babe” is.

    Dude:

    I have no Asian babe.

    No, the Chinese all went gaga over the Koreans. They were universally seen as sexier and hotter. Also true of Korean pop stars – and TV personalities.

    I’ve even slept with one or two of those, by the way. They’re just women. Often frustrated and confused women, but women. Also decent people.

    But definitely hot stuff.

    *relative* to China, there’s no diversity here. That’s not an unfair statement. China is a world in and unto itself, a world made of worlds, actually.

    You’re gonna find more diversity going from one end of Korea to the other than you are touring the entirety of the Loess Plateau. That isn’t splitting hairs- it’s a huge chasm of racial difference that you don’t perceive because of your media conditioning.

    No way. I call bullshit. China has Uighurs, Luo, Choisan itinerants, the entire provinces of Szechwan and Hunan *you want diversity), North and South, Mongols, Tui, Hur, former Manchus, Liaoning–

    China is more racially diverse than Europe is. Korea is more like Denmark.

    It’s not media perceptions. I’m wholly Koreanified, dude. The country sucked me in and absorbed me. I come here often, I debate Korean prehistory with university professors for fun, and I know the backwaters of places the Koreans don’t go.

    I’ve also been all over China.

    Your statement is absurd on its face. There’s more racial diversity in China than can be easily summarized. It’s even hard to track. Cultural, racial, social diversity – virtually anything you say about China is true of the place somewhere, and absolutley untrue of it somewhere else. It’s easily one of the most multicultural, massively non-homogeneous places on Earth.

    Without its contingent history, it would be 9-15 separate states with little to nothing in common with each other, and this goes for race, too.

    It might actually make more sense this way. But as one ethnic/racial monolith? No way.

    Koreans, on the other hand, have the diversity of a single Chinese province.

    Of course there’s some – but nothing like what you suggest. A Korean can identify almost any other Korean at a distance easily. No way a Chinese person can do that with a “Chinese”.

    I’m sure this is what they tell their men to keep them happy.

    Nah, they tell that to their girlfriends and family.

    I guarantee you, sir, the hot ones are as easy to game as anyone else. Anywhere in the world.

    No, and you’re full of shit. East Asian women aren’t easy to “game” for anyone.

    Ahem.
    *cough cough* Bullshit.

    The best ones are in monogamous relationships and do not sleep around.

    Really?

    Until their husbands stop touching them after their first kid is born? Or when their husbands go out and see Karaoke girls? or get drunk with their work buddies 5 nights a week?

    Or go on “business” trips to Thailand?

    Sir, I’ve actually bedded many of these “good wives”. You’d never, ever ever know from talking or looking at them what they get up to.

    The “best” ones. Please.

    These “Best Ones” are as human as anyone else. Most stop fucking their husbands awfully quick. Life in Asia for men is shit, especially when you have that “Stable Job” most men need to acquire them a wife.

    The wives are frustrated, bored, and absolutely respond to respectful men who offer interest variety and a little spice. it’s almost like shooting fish in a barrel.

    There’s a phrase used here in Korea–

    “Married but Available” – MBA.

    I once assumed married/BFed women were off-limits.

    I was very, very very quickly schooled on that, let me tell you.

    If anything, this is MORE TRUE in China.

    There, there’s no moral code about anything at all. It’s a moral free-for-all. The sociological implosion is nearly total. In any city, you can find everything.

    And I guarantee you: Many of these women aren’t bad girls, friend. Desperately lonely, maybe; bored, absolutely; and the ones who were inexperienced are the easiest, because once broken, they can’t go back to their boring, dull, stressful lives and see their men the same way.

    Which makes them, … exactly like Western women

    Which is my point.

    I don’t see what’s so hard to comprehend, they are the least promiscuous and slutty of all people on the planet.

    Maybe the last generation Not the current crop of 20-35 year-olds.

    The Chinese were much more conservative than the Koreans or Japanese. They’re not only caught up – they’re commoditized marriage and sex and slutted it up wholesale.

    Modern China is in a massive flux right now. Nothing and everything is true of the place.

    I will say this: For a non-ugly Western guy in the big cities, it’s a straightforward task to acquire a By Chinese Standards attractive GF or lover. Adjust game, use appropriately, apply and try.

    It’s exactly as effective as anywhere else, except you get more attractive women than you otherwise would at home.

    And that, my friend, is both experience and a fact.

    Might not have been true in China 20 years ago or 10 years ago. Pretty damned true now.

    All the foreigners there, all of them, said the same thing.

    The really ugly or dweeby ones had trouble, and some never got laid.

    Your vaunted “purity” and “Essentialist” notions about Asia are less and less relevant every minute. That Asia is dying, and dying hard and fast.

    It’s mostly gone in Japan, exists only in face in Korea, and China outstrips everywhere for pace of change.

    I was once approached by a very, very hot radio producer directly and asked: Have you ever been with an Asian woman? I answer, of course, I lived in Korea. She said: Different? I said, no. Women are women. Under the skin, …

    and she promptly invited me back to her place. No prevarication. She told me she had no idea how to approach a foreigner but knew we were direct. She spoke little English. She was a highly in-demand woman, 30-ish, very hot, interested in sex only. Not known to be a slut.

    She had never done anything like this before, but had no idea of how to do it so just chose to be direct. She was a strong, capable, intelligent and highly talented Chinese woman.

    Don’t forget: Feminism has a firm hold on Chinese women. Any Chinese women with class/education/social status expects to get what she wants.

    Anyway, we had a 3-month fling. Turns out I was right: Not a slut. Just wanted to fuck the interesting foreigner and had no cultural context to do it.

    The fact that she approached me this way says a lot about her lack of fear.

    She would never, ever ever approach a Chinese guy like this, nor would she ever tell a soul.

    Story two:

    Woman met at work. Married, apparently happily, for 4 years. Went out for dinner, by the second night, bedroom. Said she was sexually frustrated and was too afraid of damaging her reputation as a chaste woman with men of her own culture; also, these men talk too much and gossip is rife.

    As an outsider, I was perfect.

    Same story but repeat over and over. Most of the foreign men said the same thing.

    Game works a treat, dude. And the Asian women don’t tell their Asian men *shit*.

    BTW, they also say nothing to their girlfriends – it’s quite possible for a Korean woman not to know which of her friends are virgins. Sex is never, ever discussed (no longer at all true in Big City China).

    So – it’s a fact: one girl can have 3 BFs, and the other none, and neither knows about the other.

    So before you go on about sluts, be careful. Some of the girls you think are so nice may be your Sluts you hate so much.

    They have no more racial loyalty than white women. Their loyalties are entirely to themselves.

    Keep telling that to yourself.

    I don’t need to tell it to myself. I experienced and experience it.

    Been there. Am here now. Gotta tell you —

    No racial loyalty at all. None. It’s all talk.

    You Asian men like to believe it.

    You’re not nearly as bitter as you actually need to be.

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  300. @ The_King

    You must be the king of the omegas. You admitted you kiss up to your bosses to get jobs. Do you suck their dicks too? But when you have no competence I guess you need to resort to ass kissing.

    And no one cares about your bmc, your nyc condo, or your income. If you need to use money to get girls it’s proof that your game sucks.

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  301. @Truth Speaker
    Or, like all of the Asian women I knew, know and have heard about, he’s told one thing by them and they turn around and laugh about these Asian guys who are so lame – so easy to fool.

    Proof that you are delusional. You have this fantasy of “Asian” women that you just won’t let go of. Whatever gets you off.

    I don’t need to fantasize about Asian women – that implies I didn’t nearly exhaust myself here.

    I swear, it’s a poon factory. You need to be nearly stone-cold to lose here. All the white guys I knew in Korea had not virtual, but effectively real harems. They might troll sometimes, but none of them needed to pick ugly girls, dude.

    You’re so off you don’t even know where to start. Sad for you.

    I’ve seen Asian girls, the apparently sweet girl with nothing but innocence between her eyes – say one thing to a devoted Beta Asian male who is decent and nice, and then go to a love hotel with her BF (white, Asian, whatever) and fuck his brains out, then come back all sweet and nice.

    Sounds like a rare subset of Japanese girls, and the vast majority of them are sleeping with Japanese men on the side, not whites.

    But they’ll fuck a white guy as a matter of course, just for fun. But most will fuck anyone just for fun.

    And I have much, much less experience with Japanese women.

    That’s another thing the Bitter Asian Males say: Oh, That’s Japan. Different.

    Whatever.

    China is starting to look a whole helluvalot like Japan, buddy. Not yet as freaky, but at least as loose.

    You’d think Korea was a hive of sexless oppression, until you actually live here. The place is hopping crazy under the crusty exterior. Koreans fuck around all the damned time – there’s no real sexual loyalty here at all.

    On the face of it, though, they never have sex. In truth, Holy Freaking Cow it makes NYC look like an Amish backwater.

    You just need to know how to sing the tune. Once you can hum along, there you are.

    I think Asian guys have this complex

    Luckily someone who knows nothing about Asia, your opinion is meaningless.

    Yeah, I just lived there, come here many times a year, speak two of the languages, one fluently, and clearly know nothing.

    Hm.

    Interesting.

    Bitter – Asian – Male.

    when I’ve found that the easiest to game are the ones that *seem* innocent and sweet and nice.

    No, those would be the dumb sluts that play up the “kawaii” nonsense to get into white guy’s wallets. The classy girls don’t do much playing cute.

    Kawaii nonsense – I stayed away from the Japanese. Way too freaky for me. So I don’t know about those much.

    All white guys get are the ugly ones (demonstrably not true if you live in Asia)

    No, demonstrably true if you are not blind, retarded or delusional.

    I guess women who work as airlines stewardesses and do news on TV and model occasionally are obviously unattractive to Asians.

    Gotcha.

    Asian girls are less slutty and more sweet than Western girls.

    They are. They’re less slutty than everyone.

    Wait for China to catch up. It’s doing it hard now.

    Sex is all over the place in Big City China. Looks a lot more like the West than you want to admit.

    And Seoul, well – White guys who come here never, ever leave if they get the choice. They have to be dragged out and regret it almost immediately. I did for a while, until I realized that women were women and actually, game works eve at home.

    Both of these are absolute myths. I’ve been with enough Asian women to know that this is dead wrong. I’ve been with Asian wives. I’ve been with women – attractive by Asian standards – who look like paragons of purity in everyday life, and who know exactly what they want when they find it.

    Hahahaha nerd fantasy. Get psychiatric help. I can’t believe they let creeps like you teach English over there.

    I never taught a word of English. Not once. In fact, I didn’t evenknow that many English teachers. The majority of Western men here working aren’t teaching English. That’s another little-known fact.

    There are engineers, university professors, writers, hordes of journalists, artists, businesspeople (owners of restaurants, like a good Italian friend of mine), consultants, employees of foreign corporations, …

    They adapt pretty well and the culture is very open now, relatively speaking.

    And China – being a foreigner in Shanghai isn’t even interesting, there’s so damned many. And virtually everyone isn’t an English teacher. And they’re all, all, dating or fucking Chinese women – and anybody with game gets the pretty ones, without much serious work.

    Dude, I never fantasize. I just do it.

    You, clearly, don’t know shit.

    All of the Korean women I was ever with were desirable by any Korean standards. Same in China (I had to restrain myself in China – in my business, sometimes dangerous to touch the goods if you don’t want trouble with corrupt authorities looking to make your life hard, and theirs more lucrative).

    So readers can take what they want – white guy who lived there and did it, made no enemies and gets to go back to visit friends, or bitter Asian male with delusions of racial grandeur and white-knighting tendencies.

    I still say: Bring some game and this oyster is wide open.

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  302. @Truth Speaker
    Five thousand years of sexual suppression has made Chinese people mad. They come with whakey ideas showing that their women are goddess of virtue and monogamous. Then why Chinese people are into keeping mistresses. Living on the brought religion from South Asia, Chinese do not have original to boast!

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  303. @Truth Speaker

    I hate discussing with bitter Asian males. Their self-identity is so wound up in necessary delusions, they need to fool themselves.

    It’s hugely important for Asian guys to believe that their precious North-East Asian women are purer, more beautiful (they are at that), and more loyal.

    Yeah, they are. Fewer STDs, less divorce.

    Divorce rates in China are skyrocketing. Predicted to surpass those in the US for marriages of 5 years or less in this generation. It’s a sociological disaster.

    Actually, when there’s a blip here, it’s usually a shock wave, given the massive effects. One Real Estate analyst said that at least one thing was good about the massive divorce rates in the big cities: it was causing a minor boost in real-estate prices for homes for singles. More is projected so more are being built.

    China’s going to surpass the West in more than raw material production. And it’s not going to take that long. They’ll get to 2005 US social stats within the next 5-15 years.

    It’s viewed as inevitable and lamentable but inevitable. Urban/Industrial life and all that.

    And when the Chinese go in for social change, they don’t fuck around. They lurch like the world’s biggest elephant.

    The white guys who live in these areas and make even the smallest attempts at integrating or looking like a desirable guy score hot women all the time.

    If by hot, you mean ugly women or prostitutes.

    I ever touched either.

    Most white guys I knew never paid for sex.

    This isn’t 1970, guy.

    They’re the only pussy a pathetic white loser can get, so the PWLs describe them as incredibly hot sex goddesses. Strangely enough not even one of these men can substantiate a single claim they ever make nor provide evidence of these “hot” women sleeping with them.

    Dude, I give you one word: Any white guy who doesn’t believe me, get on a damned plane and go there for a year.

    *Your* opinion for white men is irrelevant. All the white guys and foreign-born Asian men I knew scored like gangbusters. The mixed men scored even better.

    And the ugly ones?

    I guess you redefine the women who touch a foreign guy as ugly or prostitutes.

    Good for you. Not leaving too many women for the Pure Asian Guys, though.

    It is to laugh. Take a trip to Seoul.

    All we can see is huge pile of uglies and their white nerd husbands pushing their freakish looking mixed-race babies up and down carts. Honestly I feel sorry for these psychos and degenerates- even white society at large subconsciously despises these couples.

    Hm, … not my experience. Actually, mixed white -Korean kids are highly prized and women flock to them. They love them as babies, and as men, my God – they score better than white guys.

    The mixed white/Korean women are feted here like stars.

    The mixed fascinate the generally much more open Chinese.

    Not freaks at all. That would be the black/Asian mixes.

    Again, dead wrong. I’m at this moment watching Korean TV, and there’s a show on about a white Russian woman who married a Korean guy who was working in Moscow. She speaks great Korean and has two kids by him. Both are gorgeous. The story is about how she’s so devoted to her husband’s mother and considers herself Korean.

    This kind of thing has made major inroads in Korea and marriages to foreigners are off the damned scale —

    500 percent increase in 5 years. Only projected to grow. it’s discussed openly, and not as a bad thing.

    Your perceptions are old or all wrong, dude. The media here is all over it. I work in media. I see it. I sit on Korean subways.

    I sit on Chinese ones, too, after you wait the hour it takes to get through security at busy stations.

    Lots of mixed couples. They don’t get nasty stares any more. If the woman is hot, the guy gets examined thoroughly.

    Your delusions are decades out of date.

    No prostitutes necessary.

    The BAMs just don’t get it. They really hate it deep down. There are so many foreigners in places like Seoul, so many mixed marriages now, and sex is so freely available to any guy who even tries – and not just with sluts, no matter what the BAMs say, even with the quality, high-class, educated women with money – that it baffles the imagination.

    Keep dreaming.

    I didn’t dream, dude, I did.

    Don’t be black.

    Trying to cockblock the blacks? Blacks always talk about how white wimmin and Asian wimmin n’ Indian wimmin lOOOOVE dem some dat black cawk WIF UH cappytal L.

    No, they don’t, and you’re just as delusional as that guy.

    There’s a small subsection of Asian girls who have fetishes for black men. They’ll take them whenever they can. They prefer American blacks. They tend to be very very slutty and trashy.

    But, guy – white men get a pass. Not the same at all.

    No racial purity even in Korea any more.

    The only real barrier is language. IE, learn Korean.

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  304. @Truth Speaker,

    Shanghai was the easiest city to game hot girls. By far. And not a single one was a whore or slut to my memory.

    I never, ever said a word about marriage.

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  305. @Truth Speaker,

    Chinese guys with moxy keep harems, too. There’s no morality any more. It’s all chaos.

    China is in paroxysms of social and moral chaos. There are few rules, and only losers follow them.

    Women sell their youth and beauty more openly than in any other country. They’re among the most hypergamous females on Earth. This could be Shanghai’s unique dating cultlure, but it’s fucking brutal for most Chinese men.

    Foreign-born Chinese with jobs have a good go of it, very popular; and the Chinese girls may not marry the foreigners, but I guarantee you they fuck them.

    And the smartest, apparently sweetest Shanghainese women have little stables of men, too – often a BF here, a lover there and another guy off in a foreign country they pretend they’re waiting for patiently, and who they may marry.

    Who’s servicing their pussy seems to be irrelevant.

    Koreans: it’s a boring trope that they wait for these Appropriate Guys and fuck around like troopers. It’s such a universal that it’s almost not worth saying, and you assume if your GF goes overseas to study English or the guy does that there’s all kinds of sex going on.

    And seeing as anyone with money/ambition/class does this in Korea, … then there’s lots of sex going on.

    I know this area well, dude. Can’t fool me.

    You white knight as much as you want, but my fantasies were exploded long ago by the overwhelming reality of the place.

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  306. Mongoloids are not to blame for such disillusioned mindset; they are partially so because they have been told by their women so. Albeit it is true that Asian women while craving for white men from Europe when do not get one fall for their own men and for their men’s satisfaction admit that they do not have such desires.

    That is what effemination of men in Asia has done so far; they believe what their women tell to them. Such manginas!!

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  307. @Truth Speaker

    Please read the news……

    Virginity for sale in China…Posted on October 5th, 2006 by lonniebhodge in All NewsRead 5,553 times.
    Dream thieves, those who prey on the innocence of children, are not limited to sex-mad westerners. The light side of the Yin and Yang can be found everywhere, but the shadow of the dark side of the Tao falls on Chinese, Japanese and Americans in equal measure. At first glance this looked like an article that I could chide. The more I read, the more unsettled I became. The report in the China Daily read: “A middle-aged man in Nanyang, Henan Province, purchased the virginity of 17 middle school girls, arousing concerns about the education of rural area youths, a Guangdong Province newspaper reported…” I am not sure if buying their virginity was a euphemism for the purchase of sexual favors or whether or not virginity had, in this man’s twisted mind, become a commodity that could be bought, sold or traded. This guy has been operating for over a year it seems, because last September, parents of two girls reported to middle school officials that their daughters were wearing new dresses and had money they had not given to them. After repeatedly asking the girls, they said the money was given to them by a man in exchange for their virginity. School officials called police. Investigators found 10 more girls from the school who sold their virginity to the same man. The girls also gave police the mobile phone number of the man. When they received payment for their virginity, they promised to introduce more virgins to the man. It was only this month that Officers finally arrested 43-year old Deng, Jun while parked in his minibus near the school. Police said Deng confessed to purchasing the girls’ virginity. He allegedly had sexual relations with 17 girls more than 20 times, including 12 girls under the age of 14. The age of consensual sex in China is 14. Deng’s lame excuse was that he thought having sex with a virgin would bring him the luck needed to secure a promotion at work. School officials, decidedly stupid about this phenomena, blamed a lack of parental guidance as the reason why Deng was successful. But, it is not hard to see that poverty and perversion were the real reasons. Most of the victims were living with their grandparents, as their parents were away working in other provinces to support them; they were easy prey. The enormous gap between the haves and the have-nots in China continues to widen, especially in rural areas. Lust, avarice, and greed all know where to locate souls and dreams closest to the precipice. Here is a great resource list of organizations that help:

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  308. on September 30, 2010 at 5:13 am Throbbing Gristle

    Pity the Chinese male. Sound people but the quim drought must be agonising. Having your best women scrumped by disgusting, perverted ugly gweilo wankers such as myself can’t help.

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  309. This is the state of Chinese society where pedophiles are living life of prince and enjoying raw dogging of child virgins!!

    You moron,

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  310. China is social chaos. Virtually everything and anything happens there, on a regular basis. Everything is for sale all the time.

    There are also profoundly decent people.

    There are also decent people doing amazingly awful things. And awful people who, by any measure, are law-abiding, good citizens.

    Everything anyone says about China is true to some degree.

    Making pat generalizations or what Truth Speaker seems to suggest – that there’s some sort of purity there – is a farce in China.

    He’s never said anything about this, because he can’t. If he’s been there, he knows what I’m talking about.

    Social chaos. Anything goes. Everything goes.

    The Wild West was never, ever like the Wild East.

    And that, my dear friend, is a fact.

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  311. As dialectic principle says things break from their internal contradictions, China will be subjected break only by its internal contradiction which you call chaos! Social frustration of Chinese men is reaching to the top and they would not be able to cope with it for long!

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  312. @Lawyerjourno,

    Your story there wasn’t even interesting. That kind of shit is daily in China.

    Officials are always screwing with young girls; daughters of officials were caught selling their virginity (um, several times) on the internet; married women have formed little clubs where they discuss their affairs (quite scandalous!) and over-35 married women are now more openly discussing the many shortfalls of their husbands – on the radio. Even sexual shortfalls. Blogs are burdened with this sort of thing.

    China is in free fall. Social free fall. Every time I go there, I think: Holy Crap, it’s come to this?

    Every time I think: it can’t get any weirder or worse. And every single time, it does. More, more, more, China is always more.

    I’d guess this:

    If he (she)’s not acting, Truth Speaker is a Beta Asian Male, was raised abroad (likely North America), suffers from Beta Asian Male syndrome for having grown up there and the concomitant Superiority Complex that results and is nothing but compensation; he’s internalized feelings of revulsion for Whiteness and resentment at the way Asians are portrayed and seen.

    However, in Asia, he’s a hot commodity. Possibly. BUT:

    He still idolizes the Asian girls he knows, except the Japanese, because that’s just impossible – the most bizarre place sexually in the world, not even slutty or extreme, just, … weird. Japanese.

    And he has contempt for the sexual culture in the West and has idolized the purity of the East.

    Well, some news for him:

    China has utterly decimated, destroyed, bludgeoned its traditional culture. For that, you need to get thyself to Taiwan or HK, but really, it’s dead everywhere.

    China is a maelstrom of change. When it comes to marriage/dating, there are few if any rules. Sex has become freely tradeable and available.

    Business culture: Cheap women and random sex is the norm. Entertaining with prostitutes has long been standard, but it’s not even interesting any more – it’s just normal.

    Business trips: Chinese./Japanese/Korean men are some of the biggest and most profligate consumers of prostitution in SE Asia. Junkets go there to get the taste of the streets and brothels. Ostensibly it’s about business. Most recently, the Philippines have opened up a lot, though Thailand remains the most popular.

    Women: China has the most liberated females in the region, HK and Taiwan and Singapore included. The professions have been opened up for them for 4 generations. The country is filled with ambitious, talented women who expect and have entitlements as bad as women in the US.

    It’s also filled with poverty and ignorance and what have you.

    Korea is a changing society that remains resolutely itself but is now more confident, open to the world and the younger generation, raised on diets of foreign media, having traveled widely and studied in foreign countries and experienced the world more completely and aggressively, is very open and accommodating to foreigners.

    In all of these countries, successful, not-ugly white men are seen as interesting Internationalists. If you bring language, some skill, and personality, you’re no longer seen as some foreign interloper or Rich Westerner – you’re just seen as an interesting guy, maybe a little exotic, are Western dicks really bigger? I should find out. I want a guy who speaks my own language, but maybe I can fool around a little, who’s going to know?

    The sheer population density, the attraction of big city life for single women, the loneliness of big city life, the impersonal nature of dating, and the delaying of marriage (or the acceptance that love/sex isn’t strongly tied to Marriage any more) mans that these women are much more available than ever.

    Of course, loser guys should high-tail it to the Philippines or Thailand instead.

    But non-losers who show up in NE Asia never want to leave, and the principal reason: Attractive women and sex. That’s pretty much it.

    Just like Roosh is going to South America to see the world (‘s women), showing up in Asia means men can test all their game with few consequences.

    And Truth Speaker seems to have no clue either how easy it is, how little traditional culture means anything in China/Japan/Korea or how accommodating all three societies really are.

    I wonder why.

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  313. Cyning says, “Smartest thing I’ve heard from you. Although what you’ve described there is being HBD realist or ‘racialist’ at worst, not ‘racist’. Granted, the semantics of the word have been distorted so much that any left/liberal can use some fuzzy definition in order to silence their opposition, so I refuse to be cowed by the term.”

    Thank you for the compliment. I believe however, that a person’s “destiny” depends mostly on biology, but partly on their situation, which includes both culture and circumstances. Nobody is alpha enough to outrun a bullet, but with sufficient intelligence and social dominance, one can convince others to take the bullet or fire one or more at one’s enemies.

    So I kinda see the White vs. Black thing in Americans as a battle between intelligence and social dominance. It’s kind of silly considering the best of the best have both. People who have only one or the other may be shining examples of their race, but mediocre examples of humans. The rivalry between them is a pointless distraction in a nation that needs both to sustain itself.

    TK says, “Education is programming. Which is why the elite pay for a high quality programming or private education.”

    To some degree, education is programming, but as you’ve implied yourself, the quality of the programming makes a difference. As they say, the one with the strongest reality wins.

    “Nationalism is patriotism and thinking one’s country has more value than another is a form of racism. Killing for your country while being dressed in uniform is considered honorable or patriotic, isn’t that covert racism?”

    No, that’s nationalism, which is something else. A nation can consist of many races, or perhaps only one race but many family groups/clans. If they believe themselves to be one people despite being different races, they will show up in a war. For this, it is important for people to believe that their individual value is based on an at least minimal adherence/conformity to the national value system, and that there’s a real life payoff for it.

    The problems begin when the national value system proclaims that all people’s value is equal regardless of their conduct, and/or the national value system is screwed up and anti humanist.

    In the U.S. we have both. This is bad.

    “Everyone is racist and full of generalization, since we have to make assumptions to establish reality.”

    True, but if the facts don’t match the person’s assumptions, it behooves them to adapt.

    “Do you really think I give a flying fuck what government, conventional society or some feminist says? I thought you knew about psychopaths, stop reading wiki and citing movies.”

    You do apparently care a lot about what the shepherds promote as beautiful. As I told Sidewinder, it is a trap. You also let your “friends and acquaintances” determine who you can and cannot shag. That’s a sheep. No getting around that.

    For all your proclamations of being antisocial, you can’t even manage to be relatively independent.

    “White race is the best, just look at how successful (Society’s sense) many of us are. We exploited others through slavery, colonialism and even banking.”

    Social dependence. Most of your successes have mostly to do with your ability to act as a swarm. The Chinese are going to beat you making money though. When you crack open those history books, you’ll understand what I mean by that.

    “Who has the most wealth, fame and fortunate again?”

    Wealth, maybe Whites, but fame, definitely Blacks. Fortune, I’d have to go with Asians because they were swarm-like enough to prevent long term occupation by Europeans.

    Asians are also replacing their colonial European predecessors in Africa. Apparently, they learned their lessons from your past, and are taking over through business without the nasty entitlement complex. Wherever you guys screwed up by putting too much of your ego into it, and got kicked out, China is taking up the slack and doing rather well at it because for them, it really is just about the bottom line.

    It’s going to be an interesting century.

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  314. @ Gorbachev
    You have not left much to say!

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  315. @lawyerjourno

    @ Gorbachev
    You have not left much to say!

    This is true.

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  316. @walawala,

    “Great example of how good these girls are at gaming or trying to reverse-game.”

    lol!!! walawala, it’s not a game…it’s a fact. if you so choose to see it as a game..oh! reverse-game… and it works for you, good for you!

    Whatever terminology you use, a fact IS a fact.

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  317. on September 30, 2010 at 7:10 am gunslingergregi

    ”””’By and large, Asian males feel the desperate need to believe:

    All white guys get are the ugly ones (demonstrably not true if you live in Asia)
    ”””””’

    That might be some kind of bone to throw don’t ya think so we don’t start getting killed in asian countries left and right he he he

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  318. on September 30, 2010 at 7:17 am gunslingergregi

    Kind of like black fucking big woman maybe the asian guys really don’t find the ones we like attractive.

    Or when I saw decent looking white chicks running trains with black guys for drugs I had to be like hey drug game works and some woman like multiple cocks he he he

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  319. Truth Speaker

    “I definitely didn’t say they were. I simply doubted that many of these men actually know what femininity is, or know anything about Asia, for that matter.”

    you did seem to hint at that. Honestly, that was my conclusion.

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  320. http://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Ambiguity-Development-Behaviour-Procedural/dp/1901240169

    Sheppard’s account the mating and dating scene in Amsterdam is a journey from innocence to experience. By the looks of things at first in the city, it seems to be an easy going town where anything is possible. Marijuana and prostitution are legal, the age of consent is 12 (sort of), and the populace is seemingly liberal. Sheppard eventually finds out that this is the ultimate “Womanstown” in which the females are all tease and no please. Most of the sex has been commercialized and what little sex is doled out bit by bit to males who are willing to commit to long term relationship and conform to the desires of the female at all times. Women have total control of the men and how the relationship will proceed.

    Sounds much like a beta nightmare; some excerpts from his book here, good read but perhaps intuitive to most gamers.

    http://www.heretical.com/main.html#directory

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  321. editor: Wrong. The 1-10 beauty scale is far more objective than it is subjective. “Truth speaker” is just speaking out of his ass.

    It can’t be because it isn’t based on anything except the person’s own opinions.

    [Editor: You are confused. Start with this:

    http://www.physorg.com/news204895833.html

    and then read through the archives on this blog. Use the search term “beauty”.]

    It’s not some kind of physical property like temperature that can be measured using an instrument. Even the process of determining which specific number to assign is wishy-washy at best. Any time someone is challenged to justify their rating system, they don’t know what to say. Some measure of objectivity can be found at the extreme ends of the scale (unless it’s by a nutter like Truth Speaker), but for general purposes it’s complete gibberish to say something like this:

    “Whosoever is boasting about the beauty of Asian women is lying for sure; they cannot be compared to European girls from Nordic countries for marble like skin and sharp features. Chinky eyes of Japanese, Korean, Chinese…huh. And, guess what somebody says 1-2 Asian women is like 6-7…fellow you got to correct yourself or your eyesight or your test your wisdom!”

    This thread is full of people who swear up and down that their rating system, and theirs alone, is the real deal. And none of them can back it up in any way, or explain why some stranger should take their word over someone else’s.

    [“Truth seeker” is likely an Asian male who is muddying the waters to assuage his ego. It is your mistake to assume what he writes has any merit at all.]

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  322. @gunslingergregi//

    Have you ever come up with any idea or just say whatever comes in your head! I don’t even understand your existence and visiting the blog??

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  323. on September 30, 2010 at 8:36 am gunslingergregi

    lol dude

    Why are you here?

    You are only a troll.

    It really doesn’t make sense.

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  324. I have helped people reach onto some conclusion with healthy debate. Not like you just writing LOLs…

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  325. Does anybody know what are you so for?

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  326. on September 30, 2010 at 8:42 am gunslingergregi

    You do make me laugh I will give you that.

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  327. @Ray

    Give me a break will you? I’m a child of divorce and I’m 23. If you read my other posts, you would know that girls want me for my genes, I could do bare back anal and creampie the first night with a 9 can you?

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  328. Jesus christ. You guys spend a lot of time debating about HBD/Game as if it were a religion. Not to mention you probably could be getting laid instead. I used to get annoyed that roissy didn’t post all the time, but then I realized that he was probably busy getting laid. There’s probably a negative correlation between time spent bickering about women on blogs and amount of ass acquired.

    I have strong suspicions that NONE of you know what you are talking about when it comes to Asians, so stop generalizing about the Asian race. HBD is valuable and useful, but it is not a pure science and it is by no means deterministic. I say this not because I’ve lived in Asia – I did for a summer on an internship, but that’s about it – but because… there are so many of them (us).

    For example, are you getting exposed to the majority of Chinese males from rural areas who probably have some sort of in-built natural game? No, because you either don’t see them (due to Hukou) or you don’t notice them, as they all work in construction. Sure, there are a lot of asian betas, but that’s due to societal selection, not some racial disadvantage. Asian societies are more rational, scientific, and meritocratic, so it’s more likely that the middle-class asians you are exposed to as white expat businessmen are going to be beta grinders. OF COURSE their wives are gonna throw themselves at you. But like Gorbachev said, the returning asians still sweep the house. What does that say about your supposed racial advantage? Yeah, you guys are taking some hot asian women from some betas. So what? Low hanging fruit. Have you tried competing against some asian alphas? When you win that game, you can brag.

    As for asian betas – don’t write them off. Don’t write off asian men. Game will be hot in 10 years, maybe 5. There’s already a magic bullets in Chinese. Who were the best pick-up artists? Mystery, Style, Gambler. All nerds. Straus even compared this shit to playing warcraft. You really think Asian men aren’t going to wake up one day and realize their efficient, logical thinking could be better used to devise good game tactics?

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  329. @Gorbachev:

    Of all the guys here, you actually seem to know what you’re talking about. Maybe you can give me some feedback. Here’s my situation:

    Asian American male, 22. Just got into the game. Wouldn’t say i’ve had too much failure with women, but definitely not much success. A couple of hook ups here and there, past two gf’s were 7s. I’m working on my game, so we’ll see where I am in a year or two.

    Anyways, assuming my game gets relatively good here, what are my odds of scoring tail in the home country. I’m Chinese and speak the language, will be going to law school soon. However, I don’t know how to banter or flirt or tease in Chinese, don’t know the idioms, etc etc. How do Chinese girls view ABCs? Good, bad? Better than domestic? Better than white foreigners?

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  330. Morsellaux

    Doug1, it’s so cookie-cuttery… May have worked on a girl for a couple of times, but it gets boring and then it turns to “one of these, sigh”.

    Use your imagination.

    Yeah, sure, of course. I was asking about the differences that Walawala and Gorby hinted at as the best way to respond to shit tests or to neg in NE Asia, as compared to the US.

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  331. “You are confused. Start with this:”

    Yes, certain features are seen as attractive by the general populace, but it still doesn’t make somebody’s 1-10 rating system objective. Even if someone explains in detail how a woman he rates as a 10 is a 10 because x percent of the population thinks features y and z are attractive, what is that suppose to prove? I’m still going to have my own opinion about her attractiveness, and it makes no difference to me what he thinks. He isn’t proving anything. Many other people are also going to disagree about the rating. However, nobody ever brings such scientific and statistical analysis to their ratings, they just blurt out their opinion, give it a numeric value and act like they just came down from Mt. Sinai with a stone tablet. And for what? He isn’t going to convince anyone that they should change their preferences.

    Truth Seeker’s ramblings have as much merit as anyone else’s. There’s an endless supply of people just like him. Just go to the photo submission thread.

    [Editor: Give or take some difference of opinion at the margins, the vast majority of men agree on which women are beautiful and which are not. This isn’t a matter a opinion any longer. Studies have proven it. Beauty is largely objective.
    “Truth seeker”‘s opinion is without merit because it is obvious to anyone who steps outside the house that white men who date asian chicks are not, by and large, hooking up with super ugly 1s and 2s. Some are, but most are doing better with the asian girls than they would be doing with white girls.]

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  332. T.K.

    I could do bare back anal and creampie the first night with a 9 can you?

    Nope. Most girls can’t take my cock up their ass – even slathered up in lube and moving real slow.

    And bareback and creampie on the first night ain’t no thing. First nite sex? Yawn.

    A nine is great. You can brag about that if you want. But I’ve never noticed they have particular sex habits.

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  333. Some are, but most are doing better with the asian girls than they would be doing with white girls.

    White guys can sometimes start slow out of the gate once in SE Asia. It takes a while for us to adjust to our new bionic powers, hit our stride, and grasp at what was previously unthinkably unatainable.

    And then, of course, we get played and played hard. It takes a while yet to learn to use our bionic powers with skill and finesse. By then we can game the gamers, and the young hotties fall hard and fast.

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  334. @xsplat

    You must only fuck Asian women or be a black porn star then, are you Mondigo?

    I don’t speak ebonics, could you restate what you mean by “ain’t no thing.”

    I meant one night stand or first date fuck. By making it shorter to first night sex, but you wouldn’t get the reference would you?

    Yes 9s and 10s do have habits as in they would never risk doing bareback with a total stranger unless they mind having his kid. Let me add skull screwing, anal and facial are also rare for typical people.

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  335. tk

    ………….
    ….
    ………
    blah blah ……..
    Yes 9s and 10s do have habits as in they would never risk doing bareback with a total stranger unless they mind having his kid. Let me add skull screwing, anal and facial are also rare for typical people.

    Huh? Wtf are you talking about?

    9s and 10s are at LEAST as sexually adventurous as the not-so hot.

    Guys being shy to come on a girls face is another issue. Probably. I have no first hand experience about that. But that you aren’t shy aint no thang.

    And stop being deliberately stupid. You know exactly what i mean.

    Stupid.

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  336. Contrarian, what may be confusing you is that there is male beauty, female beauty, and human/utilititarian beauty.

    Female beauty is measured in femininity, though nature has limits to how feminine a woman can be and still be functional in a particular environment, and with a certain set of genes. Those limits make for the variation of looks and in tastes.

    A beautiful woman is one who has no serious defects and the maximum femininity allowable. In the past, when people were more isolated, their selection was going to be mainly local, and they didn’t even usually see foreign women. Now that women from far and wide are being displayed on everyman’s screen and in his printed media, women are being compared with each other on a global scale.

    Some men are going to prefer whatever would have been their local type of women are, but most men are going to shoot for the global standard because that’s just how men are generally wired: for variety, but more specifically the best variety available.

    There is a general consensus on what is considered most beautiful, and this is not a bad thing (in my opinion) because just about every woman on earth who takes reasonable care of herself conforms to that between the ages of 15 and 20. It’s only a problem when societies are organized for later marriages, and casual sex until then. Men are forced to choose between older women because the freshly nubile are off limits or at least the relationships are not taken seriously outside a criminal context.

    Given a choice though, aside of a few age fetishists, most men would prefer to look at a young face on a slender body with perky boobs, soft bright skin, and shapely hips. What variation there is revolves around how youthful the face, how hefty the boobs, how bright the skin, and how shapely the hips.

    Some guys will trade some perkiness for heftiness in the boobs and hips, but nobody likes saggy. Some guys prefer darker skin to lighter skin, but nobody likes an overabundance of moles, zits, or wrinkles. Some guys like longer fingers more than short fingers on small hands, but nobody likes old lady hands.

    Men will overlook certain defects or deviations because they get something that compensates in exchange, or they admire the person for not letting their obstacles kill their soul, but objectively, beauty is what it is.

    One guy’s 10 may be a DD cup, and another guys’ a B cup, but both the guys’ 10’s have discernable breasts.

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  337. tk, if you brag about boning a lot of girls in the butt, you are basically bragging about being a pencil dick.

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  338. @Gorbachev
    Well, I’ve never slept with a less than 6 by Asian standards woman in Asia, most of them 7′s-8′s and highly desired by other men, and I’ve never encoutered your Sluts or Whores or Ugly Sluts.

    Blah blah blah blah, we’ve already been over this. They’re only 7-8s in your eyes. Regardless of how long you’ve been a weeaboo nerd teaching English in Asia, you’re still white and my experience trumps yours.

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  339. Golly gosh, this is getting very bad-tempered. All those hot Asian babes must be raising the testosterone level round here. Chill guys – there are enough of them for everyone.

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  340. and in a short time, have initiated a romance.

    No, this isn’t called game. “Initiated a romance”? Are you joking? You must be missing a Star Trek convention. Are you one of those lanky white nerds who trembles and looks away nervously when 9-10 East Asian women are nearby or when you are glared at by East Asian men and elders?

    it works as well, if not better, on Asian women than it does on women anywhere.

    No, it doesn’t. We’ve been over this, this is because you are delusional and think your 1-3s are 8s.

    materialistic near-whores that almost all Shanghai girls are.

    More proof that you only hang around trashy women. I know many, many Shanghainese girls who are very good people

    I’ve been to Mongolia. Attractive women, but not the best-looking, by any measure.

    Mongolia isn’t the Northern interior of China.

    No, the Chinese all went gaga over the Koreans. They were universally seen as sexier and hotter. Also true of Korean pop stars – and TV personalities.

    Proof that you’re hanging around morons who are easily taken in by mass media.

    China is more racially diverse than Europe is. Korea is more like Denmark.

    China as a whole, but it’s also more than 30x the size of Korea. The point is, in particular regions of China (apparently ones you have not visited yet) the people are quite homogeneous. Korea, esp South Korea, is not.

    Korea is not like Denmark, if I had to make a comparison it would be Germany. Germany has a bit of “Med”/”Atlantoid” in them around the edges, but deny it furiously when pressed. Same goes for Korea, plenty of paleo-Asian and possibly coastal South East Asian but they will deny it, despite overwhelming evidence.

    There’s more racial diversity in China than can be easily summarized.

    I said the Loess Plateau, not China. The Loess Plateau is 3x the size of a united Korea.

    Until their husbands stop touching them after their first kid is born? Or when their husbands go out and see Karaoke girls? or get drunk with their work buddies 5 nights a week?

    Proof that you’re hanging around trash. Good Chinese men do not cheat. Chinese men who cheat are quite open about it too, all of their friends know. They aren’t like Euro men who tend to lie and exaggerate for fear of God.

    Chinese men are among the most monogamous in the world, followed by Vietnamese and Hong Kongers.

    It’s a moral free-for-all. The sociological implosion is nearly total. In any city, you can find everything.

    Keep dreaming.

    Maybe the last generation Not the current crop of 20-35 year-olds.

    I’ve already proven you wrong with STD and infidelity rates. Again, keep up that weeaboo nerd fantasy.

    That Asia is dying, and dying hard and fast.

    That’s funny, because it lives strong in Hong Kong and Overseas Chinese communities. Also the Chinese countryside, where the overwhelming majority of Chinese live.

    Even in cities, it takes a giant whorehouse like Shanghai for you to find foreign-loving sluts, who generally are gold diggers who prefer Japanese over white men anyway.

    I was once approached by a very, very hot radio producer directly and asked:

    Yeah right.

    Feminism has a firm hold on Chinese women. Any Chinese women with class/education/social status expects to get what she wants.

    And they don’t want foreigners.

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  341. on September 30, 2010 at 3:54 pm gunslingergregi

    hey liar your an idiot.

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  342. Some are, but most are doing better with the asian girls than they would be doing with white girls.

    Again, that’s your opinion.

    [Editor: And your rants are…?]

    You are assigning an inflated value to these women as well as all “Asian” women.

    [Few white men have any motive for assigning “inflated value” to asian chicks, since most white men don’t date asians. And yet, those disinterested men are honestly assessing the asian girls they see with white men as average to fairly attractive. There is no evidence in the real world that white men who date asian women are dumpster diving. In fact, there are asian men who date asian women who have white men as past lovers. These asian men would argue with you that they are dating 1s and 2s.]

    Do you want me to go on Facebook and dig up pictures or something? Why don’t we start with Mark Zuckerburg’s $billion dollar “hottie” Asian wife.

    [Anecdote is not data. You seem to be arguing that there is one standard of beauty for asians and another for caucasians. If so, you’ll have to explain how asian models are considered universally hot by both whites and asians.]

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  343. “As dialectic principle says things break from their internal contradictions, China will be subjected break only by its internal contradiction which you call chaos! Social frustration of Chinese men is reaching to the top and they would not be able to cope with it for long!”

    No. Chinese male monogamy more than makes up for the so-called “gender imbalance”. It’s the US and other Western countries that have lots of thetas losing their wives to “alphas” and closet cases. This is why they’re spilling into every third world country on the planet looking for that one thing they could never attain in their lives.

    “Having your best women scrumped by disgusting, perverted ugly gweilo wankers such as myself can’t help.”

    By best women you mean flat chested, dark-skinned, wide-nostriled chicks with dicks that are spending you dry, sure.

    Go ahead, try me- post a picture of what you think is a “hot” Asian.

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  344. @xsplat

    Who said the girls were getting any pleasure from doing anal with me? I do it regardless of bleeding, discomfort, pain or whatever since I am the one that counts, do whatever the fuck I want. I actually like to inflict pain and suffering since I am a true sadist.

    “Guys being shy to come on a girls face is another issue. Probably. I have no first hand experience about that. But that you aren’t shy aint no thang.”

    It’s not about shyness, girls get pissed when a beta tries to do anal or anything else that seems “degrading.” They usually ask for permission and get a “No.” I just got laughed at for suggesting to just do it and don’t ask permission.

    Yes, I know you have no first hand experience with anything. That’s why you don’t understand anything I say.

    What is shyness? Please elaborate.

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  345. [Editor: And your rants are…?]

    Pure fact.

    [Editor: Why don’t you include a few jpegs of asian chicks you think are good looking. That way the studio audience can judge for themselves instead of bowing to your assertions.]

    It’s funny how you on one hand say white women who date blacks are trash, and just won’t see that the same holds for Asian women who dates whites.

    [Not all white women, but a significant number. This is because, one, black men seem to prefer fatter chicks, or at least are more tolerant of fatassery. And, two, because blacks are lower SES than other groups, which isn’t a very attractive characteristic to white women who have the looks to demand better. In contrast, white men do not represent an SES step down for asian chicks.
    That said, there are a few hot white babes who date black men. They aren’t that hard to find.]

    There is nothing “objective” when you take a group of people with no familiarity with how “Asians” are supposed to look, and ask them to judge them on attractiveness scale. Because most white men have never seen Asian 10s, they don’t know what they look like.

    [Post a jpeg of your idea of an aisan 10, and we’ll see how many white men agree with you.]

    For instance in America, people actually believe Lucy Liu is very good looking.

    [You are either lying about what constitutes asian beauty to win a tard debate point, or your tastes diverge so far from the male mean that your opinion in this matter is essentially worthless.]

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  346. Truth Speaker,
    A lot of asian women do seem to like white men. American asians are in a different and unenviable situation where they are in direct competition with white men. In your country, however, why should you put up with it. These white men are mostly dorks, big, dumb and oversexed. What purpose are they serving over there?

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  347. on September 30, 2010 at 5:30 pm gunslingergregi

    Building shit they can’t build in us laura and building up their war machine as well.
    .

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  348. on September 30, 2010 at 5:32 pm gunslingergregi

    Dumb lol

    The smart ones make it out.

    The dumb ones can’t.

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  349. The smart ones make it out.

    No, they don’t. The smart ones stay, lower to lower middle class leave.

    This is because, one, black men seem to prefer fatter chicks, or at least are more tolerant of fatassery. And, two, because blacks are lower SES than other groups, which isn’t a very attractive characteristic to white women who have the looks to demand better. In contrast, white men do not represent an SES step down for asian chicks.

    White men are also more tolerant of fatassery, and more tolerant of stupidity/laziness.

    [Editor: You said you were an asian man who knows what asians like. Well then, how do you now claim to know what white men like?]

    And yes, white men are lower SES than East Asian American males on average.

    [You’re forgetting the “socio” part of socioeconomic status.]

    However, white society is highly stratified so wealthier whites will be much, much richer than poor whites.

    [What is the stratification of Chinese society? Aren’t there something like 600 million peasant farmers in China?]

    East Asian men make much more money (per hour) and have much more accumulated wealth than white men as a whole in America. They are also more likely to be employed and less likely to be indebted, despite white cronyism favoring other whites.

    [The difference between black and white economic status is much greater than that between white and asian economic status.]

    Post a jpeg of your idea of an aisan 10, and we’ll see how many white men agree with you.

    I asked first.

    [You’re not making the rules here. But you are getting called out. Post a pic of what you claim is an asian 10 (or any asian chick 7 and above) or get designated a bullshitting troll and banned for eternity.
    So… is the little doggy gonna bite, or bark all day?]

    or your tastes diverge so far from the male mean that your opinion in this matter is essentially worthless.

    “Diverge” is one way of saying it. Some people like good food and good music, some like processed crap and pop.

    [So you admit your tastes in women are extreme compared to the average man’s taste?]

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  350. unless you’re talking about white men, gunslinger, then I guess you might be half right

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  351. So inland dwellers are the next thing, eh?

    The Miss Universe 2010 candidate from Mongolia: http://worldshowbiz.info/beauty-contest/sarnai-amar-to-represent-mongolia-in-miss-world-2010/

    That’s a mongol dime, enjoy.

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  352. “Give or take some difference of opinion at the margins, the vast majority of men agree on which women are beautiful and which are not. This isn’t a matter a opinion any longer. Studies have proven it. Beauty is largely objective.”

    There’s no disagreement on what the temperature is, what the mass of an object is or how fast a car is going. These can all be measured precisely and scientifically, with no room for opinion whatsoever. With these ratings, you’re still talking about what most people think. The best you can do is argue statistics and averages. You can’t somehow prove that a woman I find attractive isn’t actually attractive to me.

    [Editor: Beauty, owing to its sublime nature, is not now (using current scientific knowledge) as easy to measure as a single variable metric like temperature. But it can be measured. See: golden ratio. Measurable deviation in eye size, chin and jaw size, eye width, and cheekbone size have all been shown to contribute or detract from female beauty. And of course there is real life observation confirming for all but the most obtuse (or most mendacious) the fact that the same top hotties are desired by the overwhelming majority of men. All you have to do is stand in a crowded bar and listen to the men talk to see this for yourself.
    Now certainly you can argue that any one man will have slightly different tastes in women (e.g. blonde vs brunette) than the male mean, but that doesn’t argue against the existence of a universal standard of female beauty.]

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  353. TS, did you ever think that in dating women you’d deem unattractive, the White guys are just aiming within their league?

    Is it wrong for an average looking guy of average income to be dating an average looking woman? Or for an ugly broke guy to be dating an ugly woman?

    Maybe it’s the attitude of Asian women these White guys find more attractive. Maybe, and I’m just hazarding a guess here, they’re happy with their Asian women, and see them as more beautiful than you do because they are a notch or two above what they’d be relegated to in the hostile dating scene in the U.S.

    Why piss on their happiness?

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  354. “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled low-BMI hard body masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched Lucy Liu lookalike refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost power-derriered to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden back door!”

    I’m not picky that way.

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  355. Asian women are more feminine than white women. Masculine white men still can make us feel like women, but effeminate white men can’t. That is why they are over in your country, because they want a petite, shy asian woman that makes them feel like more of a man. I still don’t understand why you don’t just throw them out or kill them. You guys are smarter than we are, you don’t need our help running your country.

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  356. Contrarian, unless you’re an independent thinker trying to breed other independent thinkers, what most people think is important to note. A woman shouldn’t trade her femininity for it, and a man shouldn’t bank his heart or bank account on it, but it does affect how people, in general, will treat you.

    I have to take it into account when doing business. If I only ever had to deal with freaks like myself, I could show up for a meeting in black eyeliner and red eyeshadow, and it would be cool. However, looking like the Spider Queen is probably not going to go over well when I’m trying to convince a conservative gift shop owner to sell my jewelry.

    For that, I have to take into account that I’m going to lose selling points for being fat and wearing dreadlocks, and compensate by dressing very feminine, and tucking the locks into a nice updo.

    It’s good to know what the uniforms are when you’re trying to blend in, and when you’re trying to persuade people to do what you want them to.

    Sounds evil but hey…

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  357. So inland dwellers are the next thing, eh?

    The Miss Universe 2010 candidate from Mongolia: http://worldshowbiz.info/beauty-contest/sarnai-amar-to-represent-mongolia-in-miss-world-2010/

    That’s a mongol dime, enjoy.
    ———–
    …cute but not really Miss World caliber. Her face is just too wide. She looks like she could be the little sister of some of the Mongolian sumo wrestlers here in Japan.

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  358. This reminds me of a film critic discussing Crouching Tiger…apparently, in China, the younger gal was seen as kinda normal whereas us white devils were nuts for her. So, um, who would a mainland chinese guy consider hot?

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  359. on September 30, 2010 at 6:31 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea Laura

    Should white men be killing black men for sleeping with white woman then?

    he he he

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  360. on September 30, 2010 at 6:48 pm gunslingergregi

    Who wants to be the next tiger woods or mel gibson.

    Who needs that?

    Its not personal it is just you have to be feeling pretty lucky to get married in west.

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  361. askjoe
    This reminds me of a film critic discussing Crouching Tiger…apparently, in China, the younger gal was seen as kinda normal whereas us white devils were nuts for her. So, um, who would a mainland chinese guy consider hot?
    ————–
    I travelled all around China 15 years ago with a girl from Beijing. She was light skinned, very long-legged for an Asian woman, and very slender, about 5`6″ and 100 pounds. She was in the 7-8 range. But several Chinese guys I encountered were eagar to tell me how extremely hot they thought she was.

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  362. “A universal standard of female beauty.”

    A very loose standard.

    [Editor: No. It’s quite robust considering all the permutations of female phenotypes that are possible.]

    There’s practically an infinite variety of beautiful women, and not everyone is going to rate them the same.

    [Incorrect. Beautiful women share many facial traits. A hot Somali has more in common with a hot Swede than with a dog ugly Somali.]

    A beautiful woman can also have features that deviate from what is statistically considered beautiful.

    [Irrelevant. Obviously, beautiful women aren’t clones of each other. But the basic ingredients are the same.]

    And the point remains that you still can’t claim that your rating is the only true one.

    [This is where you are confused. It’s not my rating; it’s the rating system of the majority of men.]

    It’s just completely irrational.

    [Projection… it’s what’s for dinner!]

    One man’s ten is another man’s eight and vice versa, and there’s nothing anyone can do to change that.

    [Funny that you don’t argue that one man’s 10 is another man’s 2. Because you know it would be asinine to argue such a point. Thus, you tacitly agree by your unsurprising omission that there exists a universal beauty standard most men share.
    Btw, while there will exist two men for which you can claim that one man’s 10 may be another man’s 8, 90% of men will agree which women are the 9s and 10s.]

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  363. [Editor: You said you were an asian man who knows what asians like. Well then, how do you now claim to know what white men like?]

    And how do know what blacks like?

    [Editor: So you admit you don’t know what white men like.]

    [You’re forgetting the “socio” part of socioeconomic status.]

    And in East Asia, whites are “socio”-nothings- that and in the minority communities East Asian men have normal status.

    [We’re talking about asians in america. Stay focused.]

    [What is the stratification of Chinese society? Aren’t there something like 600 million peasant farmers in China?]

    It’s very low to non-existent. In terms of WEALTH distribution (not income), China’s is the second least stratified (after Japan). Spain is third. South Korea is 4th.

    {Thanks for verifying that Chinese are highly stratified by income.]

    [The difference between black and white economic status is much greater than that between white and asian economic status.]

    It depends on what kind of “Asian” you’re talking about. You’re lumping us in with Southeast Asians who aren’t even the same race, who drag the average “Asian” income way down.

    [The only lumping going on is in your head. The facts are this: the income gap between NE asian-Americans and white Americans is smaller than the gap between white and black Americans.]

    [You’re not making the rules here. But you are getting called out. Post a pic of what you claim is an asian 10 (or any asian chick 7 and above) or get designated a bullshitting troll and banned for eternity.
    So… is the little doggy gonna bite, or bark all day?

    Haha what a sore loser.

    [You sure about that?]

    No, stop being a brat and post your idea of what a 10 is like I asked- before you went and did a “no u”. You don’t do it, you concede defeat and admit you’re the loser. I said my piece here, go ahead and ban me if you like.

    [You made the claim that white men have a lower standard of asian female beauty than do asian men. I’m calling you out on your claim. Let’s see proof of what you consider an attractive asian chick for the white men reading these comments to rate. That way we can determine if you’re a lying troll or if you have extremely deviant tastes in asian women.
    Your move.]

    [So you admit your tastes in women are extreme compared to the average man’s taste?]

    If you’re enough of a cool guy to have 1-10 ratings, wherein all women should lie, you should accept that subjective evaluations are nigh worthless.

    [You’ve got one more chance to supply a jpeg of what you consider a 7 or above asian chick.
    If you fail in this mission, your presence here will be terminated.
    Chop chop suey!]

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  364. Zhang Ziyi is a major star in China. For some reason there’s a massive amount of Chinese people who badmouth her at every turn and try to convince foreigners that she is a nobody and that everyone hates her. So that must be where you heard that from.

    She’s never been considered extremely attractive.

    [Editor: Nice modifier, evasionboy.]

    The average North Chinese farm girl has a better face and body. No one is badmouthing her, they are just surprised at the reception she gets outside of China.

    [She’s cute. Most men, white and asian, wouldn’t toss her out of bed for squealing like a little schoolgirl. Got any other examples of your deviant taste in asian beauty? Heh.]

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  365. @ Gorbachev

    “One rule:

    Don’t be black.”

    Interesting. Why not “don’t be indian” or “don’t be jew” why are blacks singled out and why is this the only rule?

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  366. For someone who purports to speak the truth, you sure do love spreading disinformation and FUD.

    [Editor: Every study done on this matter supports my position and weakens yours.
    You were saying?]

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  367. @ The_King_Of_Morons

    “Ever heard of affirmative action? Do you consider plus size models to be ideal too? ”

    Oh they’re “plus size” models now? LOL. So the black girls who’ve been showing interest in you (As I predicted) were overweight? You’ve just shot yourself in the foot trying to change and be clever.

    Fail and another contradiction.

    (Double fail lol, what does affirmative action have to do with this?)

    “If I knew that already, why would I say it? You must be a woman since you don’t believe in backing up statements using reliable sources. But trust me I feel right and God told me.”

    You haven’t either lol. Why would you expect me to?

    P.S. God doesn’t exist. You’re delusional.

    “Now that you brought up TV which group do you think has a higher median income? CNBC, ABC or CNN vs BET?”

    Who cares.

    “USA, Canada, Western Europe (White majority), UN + WTO > Africa + AIDS + Genocide + Piracy”

    Genocide is not particular to Africa. Neither is (was piracy). Europe has produced its fair share of both. Dumb point.

    AIDS is a disease. If you get it you die (after much suffering). Certainly not something to hold against an entire race of people considering most don’t have it (or else they’d be dead or dying)

    “I rest my case.”

    Along with your brain.

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  368. contrarian, just like “Pravda” (transl.: truth) during commie era.

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  369. Contrarian says, “It’s of no consequence to me what someone else thinks about my dating preferences. If they don’t like it, they can go to hell.”

    That’s a good way to think if you can handle it. What I’m trying to say is that most people can’t. Most people are sheep who are very concerned about what others think of their preferences.

    That will affect who they’ll commit to, but not necessarily who they’ll shag, if they have the chance.

    Part of being in a culture includes sharing opinions about who each other would marry or shag, but what people say and what turns them on aren’t always the same.

    At the moment, western guys aren’t really allowed to say what they would actually prefer, but a few decades of feminism can’t override hundreds of thousands of years of adaptation, or a few thousand years of civilization.

    An individual will make tradeoffs in order to get by, even if they’re not especially independent, but those tradeoffs are still there. When you hear a guy say he prefers fat chicks, or older women, there’s almost always a why. It’s seldom an orientation thing like when a person is Gay or an actual fetishist, and they just always knew this is what they preferred.

    Originally, most of the traders or as some would call it, settlers, were normally oriented towards nubile looking young women, and adjusted according to their experiences and what gave them the most pleasure or pain. I’m not saying these adjustments aren’t valid, just that they are adjustments.

    I can recognize that young men are generally more fit and virile than older men, but all the fit virility in the world isn’t enough to compensate for the indecisiveness, skewed priorities, and awkwardness. So I can recognize a young man’s beauty even if, for me, that’s part of why they’re repellant. What I prefer or don’t prefer doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not they’re pretty.

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  370. @Truth Speaker
    Gorbachev
    But it does. I’m here. I see it. I experience it. All you need to do is open your eyes.

    You see it? You with no taste in East Asians whatsoever? Nah all I’d have to do is gouge my eyes out and undergo 20 years of media brainwashing.

    Dude, I assure you of this:

    Any Asian woman I’ve been with has been in-demand by men of decent social status in her own culture.

    I can find ye some jpegs of equivalents for you to judge, of course.

    But you’re just a knee-jerk reflexive retard in a polyglot state of massive denial.

    I guess women who make it onto Korean TV are ugly, then.

    You think all women on Korean TV are attractive?

    No, but the two I hung out with, one very well-known, were hot.

    And interesting, smart, classy, hopelessly lonely, hounded and tired of Korean men. I’d have married one of them in about .75 ms. Alas, marrying for her was to be only with the highest possible member of her own caste – a pretty narrow band of Koreans.

    Koreans are divorcing in the same numbers as Americans.

    Nope.

    Yup. And it’s terrifying the locals. The divorce rates among younger people are pretty damned bad.

    Come here. Read the news in the papers – The World Is Ending! Social Decay! Moral Devastation!

    The overreaction in the Korean press is predictable but meaningless.

    There are lots of families in which the women just start ignoring their husbands – and get their sex elsewhere. *Lots* of them.

    In your Southeast Asian titty films, perhaps.

    Actually, I hear that they fuck like mink – but, alas, I’ve never been with any Southeast Asians. Wait, one Philippina – I think. A while ago. And she was living in Seoul. Didn’t know I still had that brain cell in there.

    And it’s entirely possible to acquire the hottest of Asian girls.

    Yeah and I’m sure a chimp felt up Jane Goodall’s ass once or twice and thought he was pretty “alpha” so to speak. No, it’s not. It’s possible for you to delude yourself into thinking a tramp is made of pure gold though.

    Really bitter Foreign-Raised Asian Male.

    Tell yourself this, dude. Tell yourself this about your Pure Asian Girls.

    and often this conflicts with their “racial” loyalties.

    Delusional.

    ??

    I had no opinions before I came to Asia. Asia schooled me. Literally.

    And no, by and large, I don’t sleep with sluts. They leave a lingering aftertaste.

    and I’ve never, ever found a place where attractibe women were more open to sleeping with foreigners

    Whorehouses are meant to be open, if you get my drift.

    Yes – Asia.

    often to quite attractive women, certainly more attractive than their equivalents in the West

    This is because the women back home are cows. That doesn’t mean the uggos and 5s are attractive by Korean standards.

    I may have fallen for a less-than-optimal girl when I first came to Korea or China. I learned fast that I had better options. And then I learned that my options got better still. And then I started shocking myself by how awesome my options became. And then I met a nice girl, who glommed onto me like sticky glue, and would have followed me to the ends of the Earth, and who was one of the best representatives of the female species I’ve ever encountered – and only my thick-headedness over marrying someone too young prevented me from miscegenating wholesale.

    A nice, respectable high-class Korean girl of impeccable upbringing and hugely successful academically, smart, loyal, keen. A great prize for *any* Korean guy, and she knew it, and so did every Korean guy she ever met.

    And she would have followed me to the ends of the Earth, much to my undying shame for not grabbing her or at least being fair.

    So take that and suck on it.

    I’ve seen two of them, and they’re Korean-Standard hot – and a wife, as well.

    Every white loser talks about his “handsome foreign friend” has “so many hot Asian babes waiting on him”. Does this friend of yours happen to be imaginary?

    Works for a major international company, I’ve seen two of his women and his wife, much to his embarrassment, well-known in the expat community so no names, thanks, but his story is hardly unique.

    And he is – good looking, super fit, charming, well-spoken, completely fluent in Korean, Chinese and Japanese, has two advanced degrees and makes over 110 k a year (which isn’t impressive, but he slums it for work to get more options elsewhere). Drives a motorcycle and a sweet-assed car. Gets laid like gangbusters. I have no idea how many different women he tools, but he’s got major game in addition to everything else – he studied Mystery obsessively for years.

    You don’t need to believe me.

    Any expat in Korea has a hundred such stories to tell.

    Any expat in Shanghai has a thousand such stories.

    It’s just as easy for foreigners to game hot Asian women more attractive than they are than it is in the West.

    No, it’s not. That’s your delusion talking. I have never once seen an attractive East Asian women with a white guy, I have also never once seen a white guy think his average or ugly Asian wife was anything but smoking hot.

    Dude, you just write off the women with white guys.

    What about the women who fuck white guys but won’t be seen in public with them?

    Lots of those.

    but the attractive ones fuck around exactly as much as anyone else

    No, they don’t. Only in your porno fantasies.

    Been there – then my life is your porno fantasy.

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  371. I think facial beauty varies widely;

    [Editor: No, it really doesn’t. Don’t confuse less important differences like skin color for the phenotypic differences that matter most to female beauty; namely, the underlying facial bone structure.]

    do people make out distinctions in faces as clearly outside their race as they do within their races?

    Lots of 10s according to me in here:
    http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t665555/

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  372. @SHAN
    For example, are you getting exposed to the majority of Chinese males from rural areas who probably have some sort of in-built natural game? No, because you either don’t see them (due to Hukou)

    This is absolutely true.

    I’ve met some while working: Huge natural game. But their social status is so bad, unless they strike it rich, which is actually possible, the best women are way out of reach for them.

    or you don’t notice them, as they all work in construction.

    These are also – because of demographics – among the least lucky of men when it comes to dating. They need mega-game just to get by.

    Sure, there are a lot of asian betas, but that’s due to societal selection, not some racial disadvantage. Asian societies are more rational, scientific, and meritocratic, so it’s more likely that the middle-class asians you are exposed to as white expat businessmen are going to be beta grinders. OF COURSE their wives are gonna throw themselves at you.

    Your analysis is correct.

    Nice, honest, decent, middle-class women – bored to shit with their beta-grinder husbands who are great at bringing home the monthly paycheck but not good for much else.

    God forbid they’d actually want their husbands to, say, have conversations or have sex or do something different now and then.

    But like Gorbachev said, the returning asians still sweep the house.

    They do: they sweep the house clean.

    While white men get to fuck the hot women the returning Asians get to marry them. The mixed returning Asians clean the house even more.

    What does that say about your supposed racial advantage? Yeah, you guys are taking some hot asian women from some betas. So what? Low hanging fruit. Have you tried competing against some asian alphas? When you win that game, you can brag.

    This is true:

    The Asian alphas are, like everything else in China, Alphas with capital letters. Pretty much nothing about china can be said to be an exaggeration. The place boggles.

    The Alphas can actually openly have grotesquely massive harems and still collect adoring 20-24 year-olds without difficulty. They even get passes for minor white-collar crimes in China.

    That’s a country where Alpha actually means serious shit.

    As for asian betas – don’t write them off. Don’t write off asian men. Game will be hot in 10 years, maybe 5. There’s already a magic bullets in Chinese. Who were the best pick-up artists? Mystery, Style, Gambler. All nerds. Straus even compared this shit to playing warcraft. You really think Asian men aren’t going to wake up one day and realize their efficient, logical thinking could be better used to devise good game tactics?

    I think these betas definitely need game.

    The remaining not-Gayified Korean men who have some balls and are macho clean up here. There’s a while subsection of 18-30 year-old “men” who shop for Male Cosmetics and dress like 15 year-old girls and read fashion magazines. It’s shocking.

    The macho Korean males just clean up.

    White males with some game do as well. Speak Korean, and Dear Mother Of God why do the men ever leave?

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  373. “No. It’s quite robust considering all the permutations of female phenotypes that are possible.”

    They are specific and subtle features that aren’t even set in stone (the eyes can be an inch closer than what the statistical optimum is etc.). They are also accompanied by many other features. The permutations that can result from a combination of these features are limitless and vary wildly, and no two people have exactly the same sense of aesthetics anyway.

    “This is where you are confused. It’s not my rating; it’s the rating system of the majority of men.”

    By you I meant anyone. Anyone claiming that their rating system is objectively correct. And no, there is no rating system used by the majority of men. Everyone has a different one.

    “Irrelevant. Obviously, beautiful women aren’t clones of each other. But the basic ingredients are the same.”

    The basic ingredients are so basic that the final products can and will look completely different.

    “Projection… it’s what’s for dinner!”

    Really? So how are you going to prove that a woman I consider a 10 is actually a 9, or an 8 or a 7.5?

    {Editor: I don’t have to prove that because that isn’t the claim I made. The universal female beauty standard allows for minor discrepancies in personal taste, such as that you might find between two nerdos arguing over whether a hot chick is a 9 or a 9.5 as if she were a stand-in for amd-intel.
    But what you will almost never find are men disagreeing over which women are the 9s and which are the 5s.]

    You need scientific proof that fits into the completely arbitrary 1-10 scale. Then you need to prove that all men share your tastes. Good luck.

    “Funny that you don’t argue that one man’s 10 is another man’s 2. Because you know it would be asinine to argue such a point.”

    Even that’s completely possible, but I’m not talking about about extreme cases. The closer you get to the extreme ends of the spectrum, the less disagreement there usually is.

    [Extremes serve to illustrate the rule more clearly. But the standard applies even when the comparison is closer. While there will be more disagreement over two women who rank 7 and 8 respectively than there would be over two women who rank 5 and 9, the disagreement in the former case won’t be completely random. The majority of men will still agree on which is the 7 and which is the 8.]

    “Every study done on this matter supports my position and weakens yours.”

    I was addressing Truth Speaker…

    [Forget him, he’s a troll. Instead of bloviating about your peculiar tastes, why don’t you do the footwork and look through the archives here for all the studies I linked in various posts supporting the theory that female beauty exists within a narrow range of facial composition, and that the vast majority of men the world over agree on what is beautiful.]

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  374. [Editor: No, it really doesn’t. Don’t confuse less important differences like skin color for the phenotypic differences that matter most to female beauty; namely, the underlying facial bone structure.]

    But living here in East India, with “chinks” astheya re referred to by other indians, it does seem that way to me. Girls with great bodies, but butterfaces, and yet they are still the rage amongst the local men.

    [Editor: Men often rage for women they think will give it up easy.]

    I won’t be surprised if they disagreed with me widely on their rankings.

    [Oftentimes men who can’t get the hot chicks will claim female beauty is subjective in a last gasp effort to assuage their burned egos.]

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  375. Well not an inch, but closer.

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  376. Truth Speaker,
    I think your anger is completely justified. It sounds like your women can’t be entirely trusted to be loyal. Don’t feel bad white women can’t be trusted that much either. It’s not your problem overweight, none too bright American men have allowed themselves to be emasculated by their own women. The men in your country should take matters into their own hands.

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  377. [Editor: Men often rage for women they think will give it up easy.]

    Yup that’s for sure, though they all look slutty to me.

    Did you ban truth seeker?

    [Editor: Not yet. He has one more chance to supply that jpeg. I’m such a giver!]

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  378. @SHAN
    @Gorbachev:
    Of all the guys here, you actually seem to know what you’re talking about.

    I can be a little much, but I have genuine experience and I know lots of guys who do.

    I also don’t hate women, so no invective.

    But beyond what I personally have experience with – nothing I can help you with.

    Maybe you can give me some feedback. Here’s my situation:

    Asian American male, 22. Just got into the game. Wouldn’t say i’ve had too much failure with women, but definitely not much success. A couple of hook ups here and there, past two gf’s were 7s. I’m working on my game, so we’ll see where I am in a year or two.

    This is a good position.

    Want the truth?

    Most Asian guys, *especially* foreign-raised Chinese, are useless with women. They have monumental amounts of negative game. Just losing the negative game is a big thing. I’ve seen some do it. But the non-game types do things like go back to China to get a pretty wife because their social status shoots through the roof there – but they’re still social losers. The women there say this all the time – nice guy, passport, good money, smart, but a tool. This is why Asian-American etc. guys there are so on the lookout to avoid “sluts” – ie, hypergamous women who are somewhat streetwise. Normal girls, in essence.

    They need the repressed, asexual, virginal good-girls, or at least, girls who act this way, because half the time it’s just an act.

    I’ve been approached by the Good Girl who assumed I was a white guy-player (alas, correct at the time) and thought – he’ll have sex with me, no consequences for me, and I can still marry Mr. McBoring Asian Guy without suffering. Big dick! (some Chinese guys have massive schlongs, defying the racial stereotypes, I’ve heard). Aggressive White Guy!

    I didn’t get much like that, but the “nice girls” can shock. They never tell the Asian guys or their girlfriends what they get up to.

    I always warn Asian guys about this: They have absolutely no idea what they’ve landed. They could have the good-girl virgin or they may have a bona-fide secretive chick. They’re almost genetically programmed to be able to absolutely baffle all men.

    The smarter the Asian guy, the easier they are to completely fool. I’ve been told this by a number of Asian women – all of good birth, education, extraction and upbringing.

    So Asian returnees be severely warned.

    BUT

    If you already develop some game, let alone lose the anti-game (ie, get yourself a personality, lose the emasculating shit the Chinese overseas mom pours all over you, learn how to confront in public, stop being such a no-conflict back-down settle into the background work-hard type, you’ll also get promoted more, and, …

    Lo and behold, you’re going to start scoring hot White chicks.

    I don’t know what it is, but non-fat, reasonably well-built Chinese guys with game seem to be cleaning the damned house with white chicks these days. And Asian chicks. Same is true in Korea.

    You have *NO* idea how many White, mostly Canadian and Australian, girls are dating Korean guys. Consistently, the Korean guys are macho, tough, and have a kind of Korean game.

    This is a good place to be, a good mind-frame.

    Remember this: Without the negative game, Asian guys are in as good a position as white guys. With game, a lot of Asian guys can clean house. You may need to adjust it, ie, be more pronounced and have good delivery, but it’s all good.

    Anyways, assuming my game gets relatively good here, what are my odds of scoring tail in the home country.

    Holy Mother of God,

    Get game here, and then go back.

    You’re going to mop the floor not only with the Chinese guys, with the White guys, but with the lame overseas Chinese without game.

    Dammit, you guys are the ones who repeatedly and seemingly without effort hit the hottest women there.

    Things NOT to focus on:

    1) Money.

    If you use money to get women, Chinese women are the world’s biggest Man Toolers. The very last thing you want is a woman who admires you for your money.

    Your education is one thing (it also indicates class and is a character-indicator of its own there, not just an economic indicator). But cash?

    Rely on this:

    1) Game. I can’t stress this enough. Get game, and get it hard. Practice it.
    2) Social context. My job was particularly good – I actually had the chance to regularly meet extremely attractive women. CHOOSE YOUR JOB WELL. DO NOT choose it for money.

    Choose it for access. This is what I’ve done and continued to do for years. Tailor your job. Turn down the 15-hour work days; you don’t want the women who want the guy who works for 15 hours a day, because they’ll appreciate it and then fuck someone else when they get bored.

    3) AVOID HK LIKE THE PLAGUE.

    The women there are easily the most materialistic, money-focused women on Earth. Nowhere have I seen this effect. Actually, HK dating is basically a status/money game. You can use game to fuck hot women, for sure, but it gets awfully frustrating, from what I hear, if you want anything else.

    4) Shanghai, Dude, Shanghai. It’s massive, polyglot, anything goes, it’s truly the Whore of China, and any serious players for anything go there. It’s the real financial hub of China; it will end up controlling the entire country within a generation, if it doesn’t already. It’s going to become the de-facto capital of Asia, and the rest of China will sing Shanghai’s tunes.

    Beijing is a sad, sorry second – what power it has is entirely artificial. The real money, the real power, everything is in the Triangle.

    More or less all the cream and all the sewage collects there. You might have to wade through sewage, but the cream of the cream is also there. Decent people, by and large, despite the stereotypes, but the women —

    Wha.

    And when you tire of Shanghai proper, skip out to Nanjing. Unbelievably classy town. ALmost everyone is well-educated, and education is the thing there; you’ll find a good number of native Chinese with, say, excellent French, stylish women who aren’t whores, super-hot women who are demure and clever and make great conversations and LOVE it when they have a chance to debate financial policy or the development of free education in France in the 19th century or whatever topic – and by the way, the smart women–

    Are absolutely the best lovers. Also, if you have a mind for it, they’re very open and will consider serious relationships with you. None of the usual tooling you get in Beijing or Shanghai, or God forbid, Shenzhen.

    Shenzhen is, by the way, the capital of whores. Literally. There are whole blocks of apartments filled with what can only be called professional Whores – “Other Women”. That’s old news. What’s new news is the vast scale that this has approached recently, doubling, then trebling, and quadroupling in numbers in recent years. It’s shocking. Also, being home to millions of no-rights migrant workers, a cesspool of prostitution, drugs (unofficially, of course) and crime.

    When Nanjing bores you, and it will, eventually, go to Suzhou for weekend visits or get some excuse to get posted there. Easily the hottest women in the country, but note that they’re very entitled, expect you to Bring It as being the hottest women in the country, and their sweetness (as opposed to shanghai) belies a very a legendarily calculating nature. Absolutely sleep with them; only marry if your game is iron-solid and you have the girl in total domination.

    Also, bear in mind that the other Chinese guys all want these girls, so you have to separate yourself out from the hordes of salivating dudes using something – as a white guy, being white wasn’t enough in and of itself; as a foreign-born Chinese, you’d have a grotesque advantage over locals IF you have game.

    I saw lots of this.

    A junior editor I knew, shitty job, itinerant, had hot women all over him – I always saw him with another painfully hot woman, woman after woman, and I have no idea if he was sleeping with them, but this being 2000-something China, I’m going to go with Probably Banging Them All.

    And he was overseas Chinese, had great game, was utterly disrespectful towards his women, and never failed to outscore me at every turn.

    I had great luck with married women in China – actually, it was hard to avoid, the myths seem to be true, the sexual culture there produces unbelievably bad Chinese male lovers and many women never have orgasms; whereas with foreigners, they’re often shocked that they can have more than one a night, even continuous orgasms for an hour or more and repeat performances all night and morning.

    If you can fuck women properly, they seem to be able to sense it, I’ve never worked out how, and you barely need conscious game. A lot of women, the majority, say they’ve never, ever had an orgasm with their husband – not once.

    In a real sense, you’re ruining these women by sleeping with them, but what the hell. If you go to hell for sleeping with married women, I might as well enjoy the ride, because there’s not much I can do to fix it now.

    But if you want to fix yourself up with a nice girl, dude, I have to tell you:

    You’re in the right demographic, you’ve got the right genes, you’ve got the right attitude if you get game, and if you TALIOR YOUR JOB PROSPECTS NOW

    WITHOUT DELAY

    And stop worrying about making oodles of cash and maximizing your income–

    You will always outscore, out catch and out do the Overseas Chinese with no game who think they just need the best job they can get.

    You’ll land hotter women than the HK guys, you’ll get their loyalty, and you’ll take one home if you want.

    No joke, no exaggeration, your position is the most ideal. Use the attitude and

    GET THEE BACK TO ASIA.

    There were times I just couldn’t believe what these guys were doing. At least this is something the Bitter Asian Males can’t complain about: use the right attitude and, frankly, you sexually own that whole damned country.

    White males can score, for sure; they can do better there than at home, absolutely; and they can be extremely satisfied with the rather attractive women they get.

    I managed to successfully game a very hot Japanese airlines stewardess at one time, and though the sex wasn’t all that exciting, she was bogglingly beautiful, serious I HAVE TO TAKE A PICTURE TO PROVE I DID THIS material, I still wouldn’t even believe my own story if it hadn’t been me that did it, she was something like a Japanese Perfect 10, if somewhat un-funky and surprisingly straightforward, and a very good friend who is also a KAL stewardess – no difficulties there, and the other women were all pretty attractive, moreso as time went on–

    But I saw what the returnees did. Jesus Mary Mother of God what one American-Korean guy pulled every damned week, it was like having my eyes gouged out with envy-forged hot metal pokers. This guy was handsome enough, but had monumental I Don’t Give A Shit game and made every other male human being I knew in Korea look like a loser.

    He never dated any woman who was less than a rock-solid superheated 9. Not once. Actually, I swear to God I thought some of his women were actual professional models or actresses – they could have been ultra-famous lingerie models for all I knew. Almost all of them had waaay more money than he did. He was some kind of sexual attraction God. No Korean guy in Korea I ever knew could pull of what this guy was doing: Dating the hottest possible women and telling them to get lost when he got bored, it was Tuesday or the weather was going to change.

    He was Asian: Korean: American: Fluent: No real money, but good education. And careless game like nothing I’ve ever seen. He truly seemed to not care if his women lived or died.

    I occasionally – occasionally – had a woman this guy might have considered dating. When I did, I generally held on to her in some way (it was great for social proof, even if it went nowhere STR-wise). But he always had women I’d have cut out my left testicle for.

    I really wish I could just take you there and show you – it had to be seen to be believed. I can exaggerate, but on this I’m not. I may be understating it.

    I guarantee without a doubt that a non-ugly game-installed returning Korean or Japanese would have mopped the floor with me and freeze-dried my frustrated testicles without breaking a sweat.

    Your position is, if possible, the best. Milk that damned thing for as much as you can get.

    Do it.

    BUT

    But please take my advice about work: Ignore the Beta Chumps and Money Makers from Southern China/HK and their overseas brethren. They’re pissant and stupid and go hunting for some 6-7 virgin from small towns and do the whole family Check thing and are obsessed with traditional values and all that crap. China’s not about that any more.

    DON’T go for the money job. Go for the INTERESTING job that gets you ACCESS TO WOMEN. Make this your own damned goal: Think about *nothing else* when you plan to go there.

    That job will be your lifeline. You need enough money for clothes, to live well and sock some away. Nothing else. Once you get settled in, you can shift around, but you NEED the social proof and the INTERESTING JOB like you need nothing else.

    Heed these words in Asia. Do what I say, and you will be exactly where you want to be.

    I simply can’t stress this more or enough, do NOT waste your time behind a desk at a bank putting useless RMB in the bank if you want a good, beautiful woman.

    I could go on for 10 pages and it wouldn’t be enough. I think I did go on for 10 pages. It’s still not enough.

    You will be able to steal the hot GF away from the rich HK boyfriend with ease using good, hard, shit-test passing game all the time without serious effort.

    The other Asian Returnee losers will hate you, and you can laugh as their ex-GFs find you beguiling and fascinating.

    Don’t even hesitate for a second: Start planning your relocation exactly right now.

    When there:

    Get out there and socialize. BE THE SOCIAL BUTTERFLY, be quick, mentally agile, socially suave, tactful, *respectful* (this is Asia, after all) and BE INTERESTING.

    This is your natural field, your Home-Away field advantage, where you shine like nothing else.

    I’m Chinese and speak the language, will be going to law school soon. However, I don’t know how to banter or flirt or tease in Chinese, don’t know the idioms, etc etc. How do Chinese girls view ABCs? Good, bad? Better than domestic? Better than white foreigners?

    I answered this.

    Your question is wrong.

    You don’t need to give a shit about social status. But you still need to bring it.

    LEARN HOW TO BANTER. Work out. Be physical. Be smart. MOST IMPORTANT,

    BE SOCIAL.

    Your social status is the highest there is there on the Sexual Market Place. It doesn’t get better.

    If you add game – skills – interest – and social proof: Kazam, you’re the King.

    White guys still do well. But you will out-poon absolutely everyone.

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  379. @A Equals A

    @ Gorbachev
    “One rule:
    Don’t be black.”

    Interesting. Why not “don’t be indian” or “don’t be jew” why are blacks singled out and why is this the only rule?</I.

    Jews are fine, though dweeby. Jews with game are good.

    Indians also out.

    Black: Asia is uniformly very racist. Don't even bother.

    You only get the fetishists. You get those for white guys, too, but fewer.

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  380. @Gorby…

    “” AVOID HK LIKE THE PLAGUE.

    The women there are easily the most materialistic, money-focused women on Earth. Nowhere have I seen this effect. Actually, HK dating is basically a status/money game. You can use game to fuck hot women, for sure, but it gets awfully frustrating, from what I hear, if you want anything else””

    Dude…I live here. Materialistic, money-focused…not really.

    They’re more full of self-entitlement, scared of being hurt, and generally childish when they “like” someone.

    I means you have to have game to do well.

    I’ve lived here for years, and did extremely well. But it was hit and miss.

    I’ve never found girls here particularly “materialistic” but rather they’re more “pragmatic”.

    They want alpha but settle for beta.

    As for the Chinese-American guy in Greater China…there are two types of Chinese girls:

    1) Those who will never have anything to do with other Chinese guys whom they regard or perhaps associate too much with their over-bearing yet largely absent beta father

    2) Those girls who will ONLY go for local guys because they don’t know any better and “filial piety” dictates they should do the right thing by their families.

    Hong Kong is much more cosmopolitan, there are also girls from all over Asia. There is of course a huge Filipina and Indonesian population who work as domestic helpers and only want to bang on the weekends when they have it off.

    This group works for Chinese famlies and never want anything to do with Chinese guys. These girls in my experience are the best fucks.

    There is the North Asia: Korean and Japanese group who are a minority. They’re the best. They’re minorities here but Asian so can understand the Chinese xenophobia but not immediately be subjected to it. They are fun and more uninhibited being away from their home countries.

    There is the Mainland group of women who are working in HK often in Finance or professional services. They’re often from provincial cities but have been educated and speak excellent English.

    The relate to foreign guys well because the local Hong Kong Chinese hate the mainland Chinese, so while this group of girls may be Chinese, they’re not “that kind of Chinese”. They dress better and are more fun than the local HK Chinese girls.

    HK has been both open to the west for 150 years but also very local. So its women reflect that conflict.

    Mainland Chinese women are part of a country that is just starting to open up and want to engage with the rest of the world. Banging western guys is one of doing that.

    Back to game.

    So yes, just being a foreign guy or even ABC can get you further than local HK guys.

    But you need game.

    Case and point: I was out at a club. Hot Malaysian Chinese girl walks in. I game her, dance with her, get her number.

    ABC guys tries gaming her by speaking Mandarin to her. In other words, he moves to comfort BEFORE Attraction.

    She treats him like her brother.

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  381. @walawala
    Dude…I live here. Materialistic, money-focused…not really.
    They’re more full of self-entitlement, scared of being hurt, and generally childish when they “like” someone.
    I means you have to have game to do well.
    I’ve lived here for years, and did extremely well. But it was hit and miss.
    I’ve never found girls here particularly “materialistic” but rather they’re more “pragmatic”.
    They want alpha but settle for beta.

    Okay, Ill give it to you: Pragmatic.

    I redefine my statements to take this in but don’t change the advice.

    Avoid HK. Stay in mainland China.

    As for the Chinese-American guy in Greater China…there are two types of Chinese girls:

    1) Those who will never have anything to do with other Chinese guys whom they regard or perhaps associate too much with their over-bearing yet largely absent beta father</I.

    Okay.

    2) Those girls who will ONLY go for local guys because they don’t know any better and “filial piety” dictates they should do the right thing by their families.

    These second can be turned, by the way. It’s like tempting them with the Dark Side.

    It can be done.

    Hong Kong is much more cosmopolitan, there are also girls from all over Asia. There is of course a huge Filipina and Indonesian population who work as domestic helpers and only want to bang on the weekends when they have it off.

    In Seoul, too, where I am right now. They bang all the time: I know one American soldier-type who has a collection. As a soldier, of course, he gets zilcho from the Koreans.

    This group works for Chinese famlies and never want anything to do with Chinese guys. These girls in my experience are the best fucks.

    Really?

    Now I’m curious.

    There is the North Asia: Korean and Japanese group who are a minority. They’re the best. They’re minorities here but Asian so can understand the Chinese xenophobia but not immediately be subjected to it. They are fun and more uninhibited being away from their home countries.

    I tell you, the Koreans, when you find that 50% of the women who aren’t inhibited, holy crap, I’ve never been with women like them. Do they love sex.

    I wonder if they’re like that with Korean guys.

    There is the Mainland group of women who are working in HK often in Finance or professional services. They’re often from provincial cities but have been educated and speak excellent English.

    The relate to foreign guys well because the local Hong Kong Chinese hate the mainland Chinese, so while this group of girls may be Chinese, they’re not “that kind of Chinese”. They dress better and are more fun than the local HK Chinese girls.

    I’m filing this useful tidbit of information away.

    HK has been both open to the west for 150 years but also very local. So its women reflect that conflict.

    Mainland Chinese women are part of a country that is just starting to open up and want to engage with the rest of the world. Banging western guys is one of doing that.

    They seem to love doing it. The mainland Chinese girls, by and large, in the big cities seem to be pretty much game for anything. The educated, smart ones even moreso – and the ones with good jobs doubly so again.

    Maybe they watch to much Sex and the City?

    Back to game.

    So yes, just being a foreign guy or even ABC can get you further than local HK guys.

    But you need game.

    I found in Korea and China that game was crucial. If you brought solid, consistent game, you needed to be nearly dead to lose out.

    Case and point: I was out at a club. Hot Malaysian Chinese girl walks in. I game her, dance with her, get her number.

    ABC guys tries gaming her by speaking Mandarin to her. In other words, he moves to comfort BEFORE Attraction.

    She treats him like her brother.

    As I keep saying, …

    Asian women are, lo and behold, …

    Women. First.

    Really quite remarkable, how we’re all pretty much the same, running off the same extremely predictable programs.

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  382. Asian women are, lo and behold, …

    Women. First.

    No

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  383. The smarter the Asian guy, the easier they are to completely fool. I’ve been told this by a number of Asian women – all of good birth, education, extraction and upbringing.

    Or so you’ve been told by 2 cent sluts, lol.

    Don’t need to write an essay about your nerd fantasies.

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  384. walawala said…………..Mainland Chinese women are part of a country that is just starting to open up and want to engage with the rest of the world. Banging western guys is one of doing that.//

    Truth Speaker said……….women in Mainland China are chaste and do not prefer to interact with racially inferior westerners!!

    What is the truth??

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  385. “Asian women are, lo and behold, …

    Women. First.

    No”

    ?? Men’s influence can’t make men out of women.

    A = A

    ““One rule:
    Don’t be black.”

    Interesting. Why not “don’t be indian” or “don’t be jew” why are blacks singled out and why is this the only rule?”

    lol was there ever a black civilization?
    though it must be more because of the fair-skin culture.

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  386. @Truth Speaker

    Asian women are, lo and behold, …
    Women. First.

    No

    You’re right. I wipe my memory and experience clean, bow down before you, and admit that your pure Asian female godesses are above the rest of us.

    They never respond like human females. They have eyes for Asian men only. Unlike human females anywhere else on Earth, they are Specially Pure As The Driven Snow, and will never be sullied, tainted or tarnished by association with anything Not Acceptably Asian or of Pure Asian Breeding Stock.

    Uh huh.

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  387. @Truth Speaker

    The smarter the Asian guy, the easier they are to completely fool. I’ve been told this by a number of Asian women – all of good birth, education, extraction and upbringing.

    Or so you’ve been told by 2 cent sluts, lol.

    Don’t need to write an essay about your nerd fantasies.

    Nerd fantasies, eh?

    Let’s just step outside and do some eye on the street social surveys, shall we?

    See how hard it is for me to game a nice girl, someone from, say, Seoul National University and a family with real money and an ass, like all of these fine Korean asses, that could melt a glacier in Greenland, and see, …

    Oh, wait. Did all that. Yum.

    Asian Purity.

    Boston – NYC – Seoul – Shanghai – Beijing.

    Sorry to burst your pathetic little bubble, Asian beta boy, but – all these places are the same deal.

    Just need to translate.

    Your tiny dick must be quivering in resentment and bile-stewed hatred.

    You know, if you knew the truth, you’d be picking up machineguns and mowing down random white guys in Asia.

    If you knew precisely how little your women care if their lovers are white or Asian.

    Wait – actually, they actively like white guys. So I take it back.

    If you knew how much your well-educated, classy good girls liked white dicks. Just remember:

    They are never, ever, ever, ever going to tell you about it.

    Which actually gives me a warm, suffusing glow inside.

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  388. Asian men are trying to keep their women with them in the name of purity which is just a state of mind!

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  389. lawyerjourno, it’s cool, TS’s woman (if he gets so fucking lucky and obtain one), will never tell him. The illusion will remain intact. Fuck yeah!

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  390. Guys, signed on and can’t believe you are still fighting about us ( well I have the British blood in me….haha) Asian women. stop! everyone is right and everyone is wrong. We basically enjoy men who treat us with respect and kindness. Why fight about it. I have friends who only likes Asian men and others white men and ones who enjoys both white and Asian. I’m tired, so stop it! signing off!!

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  391. @what
    Actually it is not fight for anything. It is correction for some morons like truth speaker who have been muffling their weakness by telling us that their women are sacrosanct, pure, goddess, and so on!! Women are women wherever they are.

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  392. @Morsellaux
    Actually some people are so much convinced that they cannot be told any new thing. Their notions for certain things or internalizations have been so strong that that cannot be wiped out be we mortals and same is the view of some Asian men about their women vis-a-vis chastity of women folks. The porn world is flooded with films from Japan, Korea, China.

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  393. lawyerjourno, The porn world is flooded with films from Japan, Korea, China.

    I know nothing about this, will take your word for it. 🙂

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  394. what, am not arguin’, just munchin’ on popcorn. 🙂

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  395. @Gorby…..here ya go… There’s one of these types of cases a month. Some of the bars that cater to Filipinas and South Asians who go out on Saturday nights/Sunday afternoons have special cover charges that apply to Chinese guys. The back story is that local guys don’t usually pay to get into places and that gives the girls a break.

    http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=30&art_id=102694&sid=29507278&con_type=1&d_str=20100908&sear_year=2010

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  396. Here a story goes for a PUA in India………..

    My friend Ira is a lovely person. You’d like her, if you ever met her. She’s got all the old fashioned virtues of kindness and warmth and trust—stuff that no one seems to have anymore. BB and I had made it our mission to find her someone (the occupation of bored monogamous friends everywhere, I think) and were very pleased and curious when she announced to us a couple of months ago that she had “met someone”. It sounded like the meeting of your dreams—well, of our dreams anyway—you’re in a bookshop, you look up, make eye contact with a man and before you know it, you’re chatting away about books and life, and you’re making your purchases together and he’s taking down your number and it’s all very rom-com.

    His name, he told her, was Anirudh Aiyar. He was a former vice president of something or the other over at Goldman Sachs in New York, now back in Bombay to set up a graphic novel publishing house. HIs education was impeccable—Oxford, LSE, Harvard Business School. He had a huge apartment in Breach Candy, which you could only enter with an access code and was a member at all the right places. We all met him, over the course of the next couple of weeks, Ira had never looked so happy, and he said all the right things. Except when he didn’t. The first time a little red flag popped up in my mind is when I tried to bring the conversation round to publishing—you know, this new industry he wanted to be a part of—not only was I shut down immediately, he also didn’t seem to have heard of Persepolis, that graphic-novel-for-non-graphic-novel readers. That was weird.

    Then, it just started getting more and more fantastic. I began to notice that while he spoke about his $14 million settlement from Goldman Sachs, he never seemed to have any cash. He spoke about buying three cars—a BMW, a Porsche and a Jaguar—and went everywhere by rickshaw. He said, “You should all come over to my house and look at the Raja Ravi Varma’s I’ve acquired” and no invitation followed. Sure, he had pretty pat excuses for everything—a psycho ex fiancee had apparently broken into his house and cut up all his credit cards. She was also the reason he couldn’t keep his cellphone on. Or the reason he couldn’t party in South Bombay (“The press might see me”). Then his interior designer eloped, leaving his flat half done. Then, the ex trashed the bathroom of the Bombay Gymkhana (where he had put her up) and he had to pay Rs 2.5 lakh to have it fixed and was on probation so he couldn’t go there anymore.

    I wasn’t the only one to notice all these little discrepancies. Ira noticed them too, but by then, she liked him a whole lot and was willing to take his excuses into consideration. When he kept breaking dates with her however—dates that involved fancy restaurants and not just sitting in her flat—she decided to call it off. And that was around the time that we discovered that Bombay Gymkhana? Has no rooms. A friend played detective and looked him up on the Willingdon club members list: he wasn’t listed. We all Googled him in vain, but apart from a Facebook profile (from where this photo is) and one defunct LinkedIn one, it was as if the man didn’t exist. “How is it possible?” I asked Ira, “If he is who he says he is, and also it’s almost impossible to not have a web presence these days.” No search results came back from the Oxford website either.

    And through it all, he kept promising Ira that she’d see, the proofs would follow,etc etc. To give her credit, she did cut off all contact with him, until he emerged a couple of weeks later and told her he was dying. An old spinal injury had come up, a carbon injection had to be shot into his spine. Ira was terrified and heartbroken, she stayed in contact with a “friend” of his, who gave her updates via email. At one point, the friend said, “The heart monitor has stopped, it’s all over”. Imagine receiving that news. Imagine the regret and guilt you’d be filled with. But no, he didn’t die, he came miraculously back to life, she got him from the hospital the same day and didn’t question why he didn’t need any post-op care. Then, when she had more questions, his heart needed a something or the other. Then it was his brain. Finally, he told her he had 72 hours to live.

    Ira’s a pretty smart young woman though. “Enough”, she told herself, and set about doing some research. And she had just received an email from an old colleague asking if she knew anyone called Anirudh Aiyar. Apparently, he had walked into an office in Marine Lines, told them he had just returned from the US, and all his bags had been stolen and he needed 500 rupees to get to the airport. He had offered his Facebook page as proof, and lo and behold, there was Ira listed as a common friend. This is when she called it off (FOR GOOD) and I went with her to go retrieve her things (we didn’t think it was a good idea for her to stay in her flat for a couple of days). There he was—Mr I’m-Dying-In-72-Hours—looking none the worse for wear, except a little haggard. In the next 24 hours, Ira systematically checked out every single story he told her about—and surprise, surprise, they were all completely false. The scary part? He had done this before. The ex fiancee had been a similar victim.

    Here’s what we know about this man: his prey is educated young women at bookstores or coffee shops. He knows his lies—he can talk convincingly about Harvard or Oxford or whatever. He speaks well and is well read. The reason I am posting this, with Ira’s full blessing, is that we want to make sure it doesn’t happen again.

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  397. @Gorb:

    Thank you. Genuinely, thank you. This is enough motivation to practice 7 days a week and weather thousands of rejections. Gotta prep for Shangri-La.

    Btw, what’s your story? How’d you get good at game? Or were you a natural? And what exactly do you do for work? You’re making me reconsider law school, or at the very least, the whole big law rat race.

    Here’s a thought: teach a bootcamp in asia. I’d take it.

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  398. @Gorb: Also, how the fuck did your chinese get so good. I’m assuming you know enough to seduce these women. How did you learn?

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  399. @SHAN
    @Gorb:
    Thank you. Genuinely, thank you. This is enough motivation to practice 7 days a week and weather thousands of rejections. Gotta prep for Shangri-La.
    Btw, what’s your story? How’d you get good at game? Or were you a natural? And what exactly do you do for work? You’re making me reconsider law school, or at the very least, the whole big law rat race.
    Here’s a thought: teach a bootcamp in asia. I’d take it.

    Hey, no problem – if people didn’t share info, I’d have been SOL half the time myself. Spill as much as possible in order to better the species.

    I got divorced and learned (some) game and moved to Asia about 8 years ago. I stayed there for 5 years, 3 years in Korea (with work-cations to Shanghai and Tokyo), 1.5 years in Shanghai and another 6 months in various places all over. Then Europe, then home for the past while.

    No natural game. I was anti-game in the biggest way: a feminist-inspired idiot. A bigger tool you couldn’t have found. It took a year to re-educate me, largely through getting laid and losing the Bizarro-land notions my brain was infected with.

    I’ve been rejected so often, I’ve gotten to the point where I consider it a challenge to reverse a rejection just because I want to see if I can do it, even without any interest in the girl. I honestly can’t count the number of times I’ve crashed and burned. You’d need to invent a new kind of math to do it. Multi-layered n-trans-dimensional analysis or something.

    If you’re just starting, learn to take it in stride.

    When I went to Asia, I had some game and a decent non-English-teaching professional job, some cash (need it to get a place to stay here), a place to live that was carefully chosen for the view, the easy location (need to have people be able to get there) and the impression it gave off; I picked critical elements and carefully chose each one for the effect it would have on a practical and aesthetic level. After a month in Korea, I started to notice something:

    Game went way, way, way farther. Sometimes, it was the fact that I was a foreigner; others, that I just didn’t care; other times because I wasn’t an English teacher.

    Almost all of the pickups or meetings were pedestrian and not worth reporting – whatever, we all do this all the time, what can I write about. I was inexperienced and got shot down (though less) here, too.

    But one particularly shitty day, I was feeling Bad and pulled off something daring. On a subway: packed, and when I say packed, this actually means something here; woman I’d noticed on the platform, hot, maybe 30+/-, wearing a tasteful outfit and Fuck Me high-heel tall boots, quite the contrast. She looked at me, and I just looked at her, respectfully; smiled, looked away. Ignored her. Lots of stops later, I remember it was on the Blue line, must have been near Samgakji or thereabouts because I used to transfer there, she coincidentally managed to sit down after I got a seat, right beside me. I looked at her for a moment when I got up to leave and just slipped her my card. I couldn’t get over something about her, and decided – what the fuck, these other people can go bake in the sun, I don’t give a shit, she’s hot and she sat beside me after exchanging glances with me.

    Three nights later, she was in my apartment. She ran a bank branch. Unbelievably circumscribed life. Nobody ever picks up women in a subway here, it’s so damned public and antiseptic. Easily the most insane thing I’ve ever done. Old Koreans would make that tsk-grumble-spit noise if they saw something like that.

    It was a little after this incident that I realized that I was missing something huge: There was an undercurrent, a completely different world I could barely see. And then I started to play to it. Once I started, there was really no going back. There were *lots* of Koreans and Korean guys doing the same thing – respectable, honest, hard-working guys, … This is a hard, inscrutable, lonely place for almost everyone. You get that way, too, past caring, …

    Not just bad girls or slutty club girls (there’s a massive segment of those here, too – and we haven’t even gotten to the sex-trade workers yet, about which I know much less than I should, given how long I was here; I never really needed to, but when you come here and you can read the culture you can see the signs everywhere).

    It dawned on me that pretty much any attractive woman I saw, regardless of age or social status, might be available. Many weren’t, of course; but it was like lifting a blanket from over my head. And I was only looking for a GF, and instead – I walked through the magic door into Oz. Once through, pretty much most of my illusions were stripped away.

    China was less delusional. And don’t listen to the bullshit from people like @Truth Speaker. China is the least conservative Chinese country, the big cities are all massive, stressful, diverse, filled with graphic levels of sex, and the young people are getting laid and having casual sex easily as much as any Westerners ever. They have whole vocabularies built around this. The amount of change every year is equivalent in some cases to a decade in the West. the authorities can’t even keep track of the facts on the ground, let alone direct them. The people in the cities largely ignore anything even remotely authoritarian or traditional – it’s more or less completely dead. Communism has killed traditional China wholesale, Feminism sunk its teeth in much more deeply, and modern city life is grinding up whatever is left of anything even remotely traditional there.

    The Overseas Chinese are pretty much the last repository of anything that can be regarded as “chaste” or “pure” Asian-Chinese Confucian values. China has abandoned these in its mad rush for social/economic reform. It’s called reform, but it’s not – it’s utter chaos. Anything that looks predictable or straightforward on the outside is an illusion. Wait 5 minutes and it changes; the girl who is all nice right now decides in a year that she’s bored and life is meaningless and if there are no suitable husbands then she’s not going to remain chaste. Might as well enjoy herself.

    You, as a foreign-born Chinese, absolutely have to be there to clean up. White guys are really just casual entertainment for these women.

    The truth is guys like Truth Seeker are looking for an Asia that is dying a rapid death. They’re much more conservative, raised to distance themselves from Western culture, to admire things Asian–

    They can’t see things clearly. If you took out all the people they don’t consider “Asian” or “Value” in China, about 15% of the population would be left. Out go the women who touch foreigners, out go the women who live alone and have a BF or two going on at the same time, out go the women and men who ever have affairs (that’s 50% gone right there), … etc.

    You’re left with asexual, uneducated or socially retarded types – the kind that get all High and Mighty here in the states about Asianness.

    I always say: Send them the fuck back to Shanghai or Beijing and let them settle in to these places for a while. See what they think of Mother China and its traditional values. China is rapidly becoming the whore of Asia, if not the world: The merchant capital, the manufacturing cesspool, the intellectual dumping ground, the fermenting vat of ideas that might lead to something.

    In that maeslstrom, social order has almost entirely broken down on a moral level. Nothing matters but getting rich; nothing matters but social status, no matter how acquired by any means necessary; and the guy with game can manouever through this carefully and delicately and pick out the pretty fruits with ease. Life there is often shit for everyone, and even a ray of sunshine can make the place more bearable.

    Half the problem is other Chinese people. I get that a lot from Chinese – modern China is great, but Chinese people treat each other like rabid dogs, good for nothing but being put down, tooled or abused. Like I said, nothing is true about China and everything is true about China. They’re the best of people and the worst of people. Nothing stays the same for long and the only constant is unremitting change.

    Big city life there is unlike big city life I’ve seen anywhere in the world.

    I don’t need to tell you what you’ll do. You won’t stay there permanently, I know that. You won’t fall in love with the place, for sure; and many things will just never stop baffling you. But you’ll have the time of your life, you for sure, and there’s no place in the world where your value will be higher.

    Traditional Chinese Asia exists in Shitville, China and the sticks; but the pretty girls often leave for the cities.

    Whatever you want to say about Taiwan, it’s more traditional and less modernized socially, frankly, than China. The same is true in HK, but they have this, … pragmatic (?) materialistic thing there, it’s the social ethic. it’s the major difference between China and HK. You can feel it when you socialize with HKers and mainland Chinese – there’s a definite cultural gap, a pretty wide one. No escaping it. You’re going to enjoy mainland Chinese women and social groups far, far, far more than HK ones. All the returning Chinese have said the same thing to me. Also, more opportunities, more Wild West, more social opportunities, more options, big country, fewer closed, tight social groups you can’t access and that prevent you from clicking in. HK is a very self-defined place, socially. China is essentially an open field.

    Enjoy.

    Taiwan: quite traditional, but the girls tool guys and fuck around hugely – something Taiwanese guys are notoriously slow to pick up on.

    I had an odd situation once with a guy and his cute but not dramatically hot GF (large breasts, though), where I knew for a fact that the GF, sweet and nice and charming as she was, was shacking up with another guy when the BF was on business trips – and I could see the cold, careful and brilliantly stage-managed Sweet Girl performance for what it was.

    This was not uncommon in HK, either: talk one way, do something else. Then blame the guy. Sound familiar? There’s no safety from this female behavior in Asia either.

    That’s all par for the course in Korea. Once you excuse the 30% of the women who genuinely seem innocent (they get sucked in by the public face of the country, or they’re religious – lots of hard-core, really committed Christians – churches are almost literally everywhere), the rest are basically all free game, taken or not, married or not, single or not. They all watch Sex and the City, all are slightly mercenary with some types of guys (betas with money), and while they leverage their looks/status to get good guys, they’re absolutely not averse as a group to finding some fun elsewhere.

    if you go to Korea there’s one rule you must follow or be punished harshly for breaking:

    DISCRETION.

    Absolutely everything about Korea is Discretion. They hide everything from each other, and you’re expected to follow suit. Never, ever, under any circumstances talk to another woman or man about what you do, who you do it with or where you go. You’ll rarely be asked, and never pressed for info. It’s like a cultural-genetic behavior here, being nosy but backing off when you meet resistance. Do *not* offer information about your love life to anyone, ever.

    Women want to know that if they bed you, absolutely no-one will ever find out – ever. Not even if they’re dating you – some people can find out, but not others. I’ve never seen people live such rigidly compartmentalized lives as here.

    Don’t listen to fucktards like @truth seeker. They don’t know shit. I’ve been here for 3 weeks this trip, and could easily have spent the night with a ex, another ex, who is currently w/ BF, or a nice woman at the office where I was working who chatted me up (I’m familiar enough now to respect the signals, how she wants a guy she’ll sleep with to respond and qualify himself, and what the expectations are – ie, keep my trap shut, be absolutely respectful of the social order at all times, and not get attached. Anyway, I have a GF here, but I’ve run through that script so many times it bears no testing – I can even tell what she’ll say in the morning when she’d be likely to cock her eyebrow, look at me and carefully ask a question to see if I’m going to tell anyone.

    So these Pure, Superior Asians are self-delusional. These Asian women they worship no longer represent anything like a big selection of hot girls, their values have no place in city life in Asia, and Asia is passing them by hard. In 10 yeas they’ll be bitter and Holier-Than-Thou – but they’re mostly just amusing. The reality they understand bears no connection to Asia except in the backwaters, and among the socially inept or unconnected.

    And I’ll going to put money on them actually believing anything these women say. Which would be the most tragically hilarious mistake any of these guys make.

    Sure, sure – they’re virgins. Sure, sure – they never cheat on their BF (even that one time with the nice guy at work was just, well, you know, it doesn’t count. I’m a nice girl.). Sure, they never let themselves be swept off their feet by some Alpha that they quietly pine for while being suddenly chaste.

    Whatever.

    trust me on this:

    get the hell to Asia by whatever means you can and get yourself a decent job *with the right frame of mind and connections*.

    *NEVER* rely on your job to give you social status and money – it must give you social context and opportunities and creativity. If you try to use your high-status job to get women, this will be your calling card. *THOSE* women will still fuck the creative outsider, but they’ll both fuck – and tool- you.

    Nobody, no women anywhere on Earth have Beta tooling kits as comprehensive as Asian women. The moment you sniff this, absolutely put the woman in her place or dump her ass. She respects nothing less. This is what the Asian alphas do. Never, ever let her control you the way those HK girls control their men. Claws like saber-toothed tigers. Just take good long looks at the relationships between these Superior Beta Asian Guys and their women. Then look at the Asian Alphas.

    Be that Alpha, not the Beta. The difference is so profound, you can’t possibly do anything else to affect your life for the better than that one decision.

    The Koreans are more emotional and driven by other factors. But the culture is unique – here you need to adapt differently.

    I strongly advise getting someone else’s advice if you’re going to Japan. I had limited experience there, and most of it was weird. I really, really thought they were normal girls, and if they were, then I’m glad I didn’t live there. Psycho-socially, completely different from Korea or China.

    Work: I work in media. I’ve had chances to move up into admin and serious management, and barring one unrefusable opportunity in China, I turned them all down. I get to do lots of boring production work and interesting creative work, and as a result:
    – I get to travel.
    – I get to sit around and read newspapers a lot.
    – I’ve worked in most areas of the industry
    – I get to stay up late going over mine and other peoples’ work, editing it, commenting on it, and trashing it.
    – I’ve collected some weird experience on my CV, so I get asked to do strange projects that no-one else can do. Also collected a wide variety of skills that make me indispensable for smaller projects with lower budgets but are easily the most interesting and most creative. Trick: Creative. This is solid gold with women. That’s a deliberate choice on my part.
    – I’ve had opportunities to do my own projects continually, and most of them are really interesting. That’s the gold: I get so much social proof, so many social ins, it’s where I get to insert myself into virtually any social group I need to with absolutely unassailable legitimacy and without even having to work to establish myself. Once in, use your best game. Never fails.

    I tend to avoid people in my own industry, though – it’s so rabidly incestuous as it is. Also, much more cutthroat. They’re as likely to stab you in the back as you sleep as help you. And it’s often hard to tell who’s going to do it. The more decent you are, the better you get treated.

    That’s another thing about China: Be decent and respectful all the time. You have no idea how many women love this about a man (unsurprisingly). But be a man. That said, so many men are disrespectful, they adore men who are “men” and respect their boundaries (until the moment when you shouldn’t – and then never, ever hesitate, dive in when you realize that this is what they want).

    I have friends who are senior execs by now at major media houses; they work 10-12 hours a day, have gray hair, ulcers and harried, largely sexless, unhappy lives. I live very comfortably, am never without good job prospects, which get weirder and better as time goes on, and I’m carefully managing everything as I go, taking on work that pushes my own agenda. Most importantly, I have time. Time is key. If you’re chained to a desk for any length of time, or required to do endless hours of overtime for little reward, your life quickly becomes shit. More money: Your expenses invariably go up. It’s rarely a good trade-off, though sometimes some guys make it work (most don’t; Asian men mostly fail with this balance, with worse consequences than for guys in the US: Life here for the Salaryman is absolute garbage). Getting the hell out is the smartest thing you can then do; and then what do you do?

    If it’s managed right from the beginning, you accept the right opportunities and not the wrong ones.

    The trick is not to let your career lead you: You consciously choose where it goes and how it gets there. Make sure you get more than money from it. It’s the smart way to work. I clued in to this shortly after my marriage ended and I decided I didn’t want to live for the ambitions of others (ie, my wife). I live very well, but don’t have the newest car; my 401k is healthy but I won’t be eating caviar every day; and my social life very busy (was, until I got myself an apparently more permanent GF).

    Law: Pick and choose well. Pick something that gets you access to interesting people but not long hours; not the most money, for sure, but travel and contacts and a bit of a name for being interesting. Remember, you don’t want women to look at you as a Beta Tool or a Way Up: You want them to see you as That Fascinating Guy I Need To Be Near.

    Anything else is a waste of time.

    Very quickly, you become that guy for them. And then you just are. This is the space you need to be in in Asia.

    Just when you’re there, remember: You need to match it with a chatty, casual, extremely adept social face, too: You can mask all manner of linguistic/cultural shortcomings this way.

    The social, Interesting Guy will always get the hotter chick than an equivalent Rich, Good Job guy. All things being equal, which they rarely are, it’s a hard life for those rich guys, with their women.

    For the interesting guys, …

    You’ll have 4 years where you can’t deal with the variety, it’ll be great, and then you’re actually going to get tired of fucking around and you’ll want something serious.

    And there, you’re *still* going to be better off than the guys who slaved away, so long as you’re reasonably successful at whatever it is that you do.

    As a lawyer – maybe do rights consulting, oversight for international organizations, corporate consulting (with lots of free time between contracts – key – and then intense work periods where you make social connections; you need both). if you really want to score:

    Help with legal reform. Become someone who has some expertise and help, say, local NGOs (not international ones), local governments, associations, whatever, deal with the outside world and other authorities in China. Given the stiffness and arbitrariness of the Chinese government, there’s lots of room for these guys right now. One Chinese guy I know gave up a promising law career to do this, Unattractive guy, more or less, but some natural game.

    He says the biggest change was women: he’s a good speaker, now, stands out, is brave and get all kinds of female attention. As corporate lawyer, … no.

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  400. @Shan,

    Wo de nupengyou, wo de laushr–

    I spoke 3 already, Korean was easy enough to learn (immersed in it – survive or die, dying less fun), and Chinese – in bed.

    Seriously. You have no idea how easy it was to learn in bed. My first GF there was teaching me Chinese first. She invited me to her place and I realized after 2 hours that she was guardedly trying to seduce me. I was just being a gentleman. I gladly obliged when I figured out what was going on.

    I helped her pass an English exam, she got into a college in the US (living in Memphis and married now – to a white guy), she helped me get a job there and taught me half of what I learned in the first 3 months.

    Actually, in Shanghai, your value as a foreigner will be high enough, and your value as a returning Chinese, that you don’t need to worry about it. I pick it up fast, but you can, too.

    Advice:

    Take classes before you leave. I took one Korean class in NYC before I left, and it was massively useful. Be devoted.

    There’s *nothing* more important than learning the language as an extra skill to go along with game. PUAs and white guys who didn’t may not have noticed the difference, but it’s palpable.

    Anyway, my Chinese is still resolutely foreign, and I only know about 2000 characters (I tried to count once). Hardly an educated Chinese. But it’s good enough to impress and you, ah, learn the local slang awfully quick.

    What’s hard to understand is Shanghainese.

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  401. Many of American impressed with Chinese economy are trying colour themselves in yellow. But do not forget dudes, Chinese cannot help anyone as they are self-indulgent. They have the genes of Genghis Khan who looted and ravaged the entire Europe and raped European women.

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  402. Learning Chinese so that you can attract Chinese chicks who you consider low in beauty seems silly! If you learn some language for commercial success that makes sense but fetching chicks from particular lingual region, how can you justify?

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  403. lawyerjourno, and they have slanted eyes and are undoubtedly evil! LOL!

    But….

    1. Ghengiz Khan was a Mongol

    2. He got as far as Crimea, which hardly constituted the whole Europe.

    3. His policy was not to abuse local populations under the Mongol control. Also, Mongols generally considered other races inferior, so pillage they did, rapes not much, it was considered a sign of a weak character of a Mongol warrior and not particularly well regarded.

    You probably confuse Temujin with Attila, several centuries earlier, who was a Hun, which were a Turkic tribe.

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  404. You say he did not commit rape but he father more than 13000 children in his whole life and his ancestors are still spread around the world. He has been given a name for fathering this much number of children.

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  405. For the best interest of the USA and humanity Chinese are the most dangerous people. Next global conflict would be because of China and its conflict of interest with the USA. Cyber space, actual space, sea waters, Chinese are everywhere.

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  406. lawyerjourno

    Learning Chinese so that you can attract Chinese chicks who you consider low in beauty seems silly!

    Of course that would be a bit silly. You go for the hot chicks, silly! 🙂

    I know, to you they have slanted eyes and are evil looking, and indulgent devilish creatures, but that’s you.

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  407. @Morsellaux

    What I mean is according to your own standard Asian women are second third only to black and Indian women so in some or the other way they are least bangable!! in such a case much hot and higher in index white males would most likely would not go for Asian women then learning Chinese for the purpose of effective PUA act???

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  408. lawyerjourno

    You say he did not commit rape but he father more than 13000 children in his whole life

    Awrighty. Because of the fact of a narrow window for ovulation, in order to produce 13K childern, he must have had at least 52k intercourses. Say that he was a real stud and could do 6 wench a day.

    That translates to 24.75 years. 1162–1227. His campaign of conquest really took off in 1206, before that, he united the Mongol tribes and conquered some adjacent areas. So, 21 years till his death. Now, a good chunk of his time was spent on campaigns. It is reasonable to presume that he spent a lot of time managing and directing his armies, not fucking. I think it is reasonable to assume that about a third of the time he was involved in other stuff than generating offspring. So, that leaves 14 years to get the job of 13000 descendants done.

    How does it sound to you? Doable?

    I think that you accepted some fancy mythology without passing it through your allotment of brain cells.

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  409. lawyerjourno

    What I mean is according to your own standard Asian women are second third only to black and Indian women so in some or the other way they are least bangable!

    I did say that? Was I drunk? Show me where!

    No. There are some mighty purdy wenches amongst Korean/Chinese/Japanese. I am not particularly discriminating, there are purdy wenches in all races, but I have a soft spot for oriental ones. They are very feminine, and when purdy, itsa bomb.

    Black chicks without white admixture just don’t do it for me and Indian women (I suppose you mean east Indian) are too marinated in curry, which does not curry my favor.

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  410. How many of you consider this a manly man……………

    http://www.tanvii.com/2010/03/men-men-manly-men.html

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  411. @Morsellaux
    Though it may be exaggerated that Genghis Khan produced 13000 children which I read some time back. But the link below shows that there are more than 20,000 persons who have been to be from the kin of great warrior, the fact have been proved by DNA tests carried out..shows his prolificness. …….go through the link..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-456789/Genghis-Khan-The-daddy-lovers.html

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  412. there are more than 20,000 persons who have been to be from the kin of great warrior

    800 years later? One of his sons had 40 children (more reasonable figure, and I think in Temujin’s case several, hundred, not 13k, may be a reasonable estimate), so I don’t see 20k as such a big deal.

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  413. Gorby, whatever you’re doing now you should give it up to become a motivational speaker…

    … living in a van, down by the Yellow River. 🙂

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  414. yup manly, too manly

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  415. @Morsellaux

    “too marinated in curry” lol!!!

    what would you rather they be marinated in? hehe!!

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  416. @Dad,

    I’m trying to motivate our young men to get themselves the hell out of this country. a 20-28 year old guy with anything approaching a personality and skills has a massively better Woman-future almost anywhere else: And Asia is the place to be.

    Career, money, interesting women who aren’t fat arrogant nasty cows – Seriously, foreigners in Asia all say the same thing:

    Where the hell did all these hot women come from? Holy crap!

    The reason?

    We USED to have all sorts of hot women. Now they’re all 180 pounds and marching to protest some shit or other.

    Good for them.

    Men who aren’t ugly and can learn game: Get the fuck out.

    What shocks me is that a pretty 6-7 in Korea has no idea she’s a 9. A 4-5 in the US who isn’t fat thinks she’s a 7 and hot shit because…

    Every other woman within 100 miles of her is a fat tub.

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  417. Namae, facial beauty is actually one of the least variable, but most subject to social or environmental tradeoffs.

    The face is also very vulnerable to environmental and psychological stress.

    All beautiful women may not be clones of one another, but facially, they are all similar in key ways: somewhat widely spaced eyes, high, rounded eyebrows, cupid bow lips, etc. Even allowing for ethnic differences, a beautiful Australian Aboriginie recognized as beautiful by men of her own ethnicity has a lot structurally in common with a recognized Nigerian, Anglo, or Native American beauty.

    Her skin is clear, and a bit rosey even if it’s dark because guys like to see a woman has good circulation and isn’t anemic. Her nose is proportionally small because this says her family for many generations was resourceful and intelligent enough to know how to work efficiently and not just hard. Her eyebrows are not to thick, and they’re rounded and somewhat widely spaced because she has lots of estrogen. Her teeth are straight, and not too big or too small, so her jawline is dainty and her cheekbones are high. She’s not going to die of complications due to gingivitis at 20 because she can reach all corners of her teeth, including the wisdom teeth, with a cleaning stick.

    Almost all of facial beauty has to do with being sufficiently intelligent, fed, and protected. The need to be pro adaptive doesn’t change because of the area one lives in, so beauty ideals aren’t that different from place to place. When they are different, it’s almost always due to an environmental necessity or culturally specific fetish.

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  418. For some examples that are extremely different from Anglo or Asian standards, I went looking for photos of healthy Australian Aboriginal women with no European ancestry, doing some activity for which it helps to be cute.

    Celebratory dances are one of those, and there are certain aspects of preparation that are done more carefully on people considered to be relatively pretty or high status, than on others. Note that though she’s quite dark and the nose is going to be shaped differently because of the environment, it’s relatively small. Also, her eyes are big and widely spaced, and eyebrows are relatively thinner, and the brow itself less heavy than what you’re used to seeing in the anthropology photos.

    Australian woman

    So beautiful aboriginal girls may be few and far between, especially after the climate and situation gets to them, but they do exist and they are recognized despite being quite obviously non European. You just don’t see them a lot because of mainstream media filtering.

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  419. Morsellaux

    Firepower, what would blow you out of water!
    I am willing to be a bookie for the match… 10:1 on what!

    BTW you link is a bit anemic, I see one asian chick there.

    ‘Girls’ is American slang for pair of tits; as you see, there are three asian ‘girls’ in the pic.

    Finding an Asian bitch with tits that big is almost as rare as finding one without the requisite inflated ego.

    the smorgasbord of asian girls link is quite good

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  420. @Firepower

    lol!!! That’s a lot of silicone!!! hahhah!! Keep sharp objects FARRRRRR away!!! lol!!!!

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  421. on October 2, 2010 at 5:22 pm Gunslingergregi

    God Dam Gorb lol

    Shows just how motivated woman can make a man

    he he he

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  422. Firepower, aww, that! I don’t like them sili cones.

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  423. on October 2, 2010 at 11:37 pm Orbital boner

    Gorbie, thanks for the insights, I’ve read all you posts once or twice now. I’ve lived in Asia a few years, so I can confirm most of your thoughts. You should get a blog, this is gold.

    If there’s one thing though, it’s that you’re too immersed in your own world to judge yourself and your close environment objectively in it. You learned korean, chinese and japanese easily, which are considered by most experts to be 3 of the world’s hardest languages to learn. You work in the media and have turned down the “real” management positions your old buddies suffer from because what you have is better… More young people want to work in the media than the traditional highest status “normal” jobs like being a lawyer or a doctor in many Western countries today. And the guy who was raking in the chicks but slummed it for a mere 110K a year – you realize that’s around 90th pecentile in the US now, right? And THAT’S his weak point?

    NE Asia wants guys like you and him – high intelligence, high energy, high competence guys working to teach them everything you know, and they will reward you with plenty of pussy for it while you’re still any use to them. They might even let you stay if you’re really good or lucky, just to show they like to reward winners and get the new generation of white guys to repeat the cycle.

    They’re not going to rain down pussy on Joe Sixpack or even his above average gifted brother, though. Sadly, I think your definition of “loser”, which you seem fond of talking about, would include most Western guys and most of the readers of this blog. But by all means, if you’re white, young, smart and energetic, go for it. There’s no place on earth like Asia for a white man as long as you have a good job or money and know your worth. I’m in SE Asia and don’t earn 100K from my own busines, but I still date a range of really hard working, delightful, beautiful girls and women, which all seem very attracted to me. But NE Asia takes a pretty good combination of effort and abilities, and if you don’t have it, forget it.

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  424. on October 3, 2010 at 12:00 am Gunslingergregi

    ””And the guy who was raking in the chicks but slummed it for a mere 110K a year – you realize that’s around 90th pecentile in the US now, right? And THAT’S his weak point?””’

    Yea it is pretty funny that the guys making that are the ones going to asia after bitter divorces and making the woman rich and happy to do it.

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  425. on October 3, 2010 at 12:05 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””They’re not going to rain down pussy on Joe Sixpack or even his above average gifted brother””””

    No they will it is why they are well loved.

    Course joe sixpack soldier has been making out like a bandit in south korea, phillipines, japan, guam, grenada, the marshall islands and bunch of other places for a long time and has probably been influential in why south korea is now on par with us in terms of wages.

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  426. on October 3, 2010 at 12:14 am Gunslingergregi

    Think Thailand gonna remain poor with all that pussy power?

    he he he

    Even joe sicpack with the proper motivation can send a hell of a lot of money back.

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  427. on October 3, 2010 at 1:21 am Orbital boner

    Gregi, I’m not sure US soliders are that popular in Japan now after the widely publicised rape trials that threatened to chuck out all the US military presence there. And why would they need to rape anyone if they were cleaning out anyway?

    There are lots of white guys in major cities in Asia now, students, teachers etc. Sure most white guys without a career do better than home, but not nearly as good as Gorbie. I doubt an average grunt would clean out unless he’s something special in the looks apartment or has some other outstanding trait. But back in the days when they were the only white guys they did really well, because they were the only game in town.

    And Thailand is SE Asia, it’s a lot easier for most people there than NE Asia. And Thailand is already the richest country in SE Asia because of it’s willing pussies, by the way. 🙂

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  428. on October 3, 2010 at 1:53 am Gunslingergregi

    Eh I did fine in germany with no money basically making less than a south korean he he he

    But yea no average anything will clean up by definition.

    You can maximize you options though in various ways.

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  429. @ Orbital boner
    I’m not sure US soliders are that popular in Japan now after the widely publicised rape trials that threatened to chuck out all the US military presence there. And why would they need to rape anyone if they were cleaning out anyway?
    ————-
    The Okinawa child rapists were blacks, not Joe Sixpacks. But no, I don’t think soldiers in general are very popular here in Japan, or do all that well with the ladies. Sixty years ago American servicemen were rich in comparison to the local people. Now they’re poor. American men doing almost any other kind of work here will score better than soldiers.

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  430. […] – “Another Cougar Bites the Dust“, “Gaming Asian Girls“, “Five Minutes of Alpha“, “Attention Whore Hyperactivity Disorder“, […]

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  431. @Orbital boner

    Gorbie, thanks for the insights, I’ve read all you posts once or twice now. I’ve lived in Asia a few years, so I can confirm most of your thoughts. You should get a blog, this is gold.

    People don’t believe. They should just come here.

    If there’s one thing though, it’s that you’re too immersed in your own world to judge yourself and your close environment objectively in it.

    I know lots of foreign guys here, too. Some of them are English teachers. They do pretty well, too.

    The rule generally is:

    White guy: You do +1 point better, 2x variety.
    (losers will still do better, but not spectacularly, of course).

    Interesting job: +1
    Outgoing and culturally adaptable: +1
    Tall and good looking: +1 – +1.5

    So a 6 will, with the careful application of game, the right job, a very social and casual outlook on life, will be able to occasionally sleep with a 9, a lot of 8s, any number of 7s he wants, and that’s about as low as he needs to go.

    The more he brings in terms of personality and versatility, the more interesting females he’ll meet.

    These above bonuses count for sex. For marriage, … the bonuses are about half, and you get another bonus for having a decent job that brings in money.

    Frankly, marriage is a different kettle of fish.

    You learned korean, chinese and japanese easily,

    Actually, just Korean; Chinese was a hurdle, writing, anyway, which I still suck at; reading is OK, for an undereducated 25-year-old; spoken is heavily accented but passable. I play it up because it doesn’t pay to be too Chinese with Chinese people. Be respectful, but don’t try to blend in. You’re a foreigner: Be one.

    In Korea, it was a different story. Blending in was partial but more complete; the culture just sucked me in. Korean is much easier to learn than Chinese (writing); though the grammar is a bitch. Also less regular. But the absence of tones and a zillion dialects (there are only a few regional variants of Korean, all of them quaint as opposed to incomprehensible) makes Korean a helluva lot easier.

    I never learned any Japanese. Bitch of a language, despite its similarity to Korean; and the Japanese are weird. Not bad or good, just wholly different. You think you know the place and then – shazam. Bizarro land. It even baffles the Japanese.

    which are considered by most experts to be 3 of the world’s hardest languages to learn. You work in the media and have turned down the “real” management positions your old buddies suffer from because what you have is better…

    I value my personal freedom too much; I’ll work on contract happily. I chose to be smart rather than richer.

    More young people want to work in the media than the traditional highest status “normal” jobs like being a lawyer or a doctor in many Western countries today.

    They’re smart and they should do it. Law is a sucker’s game, really.

    5% of the lawyers do amazingly well. 15% of the rest do okay. For that, they work like slaves and consort with high-T assholes (male and female).

    The rest struggle.

    Who the fuck wants that garbage?

    Seriously.

    And the guy who was raking in the chicks but slummed it for a mere 110K a year – you realize that’s around 90th pecentile in the US now, right? And THAT’S his weak point?

    He could have been a 500-750k a year guy. Easily. No problem. He was slumming it, relatively.

    Of course, making 50k a year is also fine.

    Most English teachers pull about 40-45k a year when successful (about 4 grand a month).

    It’s still good enough to score.

    Not the hot 9s who have apartments in Gangnam – but good enough.

    NE Asia wants guys like you and him – high intelligence, high energy, high competence guys working to teach them everything you know, and they will reward you with plenty of pussy for it while you’re still any use to them. They might even let you stay if you’re really good or lucky, just to show they like to reward winners and get the new generation of white guys to repeat the cycle.

    Korea is definitely this kind of place. BUT: it’s also much more international now, so you could theoretically actually live here. Shanghai, too, maybe even Beijing, but I don’t know why you’d want to – as a temporary home, it’s fine, but even the Chinese feel harried here.

    They’re not going to rain down pussy on Joe Sixpack or even his above average gifted brother, though.

    You need a university degree and some smarts, but not that much.

    You still do better than at home. Way better, if you learn.

    Sadly, I think your definition of “loser”, which you seem fond of talking about, would include most Western guys and most of the readers of this blog.

    I doubt it. By loser, I mean shy, unco-ordinated, lonely guys who don’t know how to talk to women and who can’t pick out clothes and shuffle around like quasimodo.

    Don’t do that, and you’re fine here.

    But by all means, if you’re white, young, smart and energetic, go for it. There’s no place on earth like Asia for a white man as long as you have a good job or money and know your worth. I’m in SE Asia and don’t earn 100K from my own busines, but I still date a range of really hard working, delightful, beautiful girls and women, which all seem very attracted to me. But NE Asia takes a pretty good combination of effort and abilities, and if you don’t have it, forget it.

    You really do need energy here. I should have said that.

    But if you have energy and know how to read the culture, literally, it’s unbelievable.

    One apartment building where a guy I know lives is stocked with singles between 25-35. Male and female. All professionals of some sort. Good education. Absolutely typical Korean upper-middle or middle class types. Hotties are rare (the hot women segregate themselves out here quickly – it’s quite remarkable), but quite attractive women (6-7-8 – no exaggeration) are common. The Korean females, after having seen you around in the elevator and chatted for a bit, will come right out and do things like ask: Hey, you live here? What do you do? Want to get a coffee? Blah blah blah.

    The slightest game will land you in the woman’s apartment within a one to three coffee dates.

    If you’re any good in bed, you get invited back without difficulty. There’s a very regular booty call. Occasional meals. Don’t expect a relationship. They don’t want it.

    They may – or may not – let anyone else know what they’re up to.

    It’s quite literally that easy. It’s even more pronounced if you’re in some other industries.

    And this is for the English Teacher guy I know (he has a master’s and teaches at a university). His story is utterly common.

    And once these women start sleeping with foreigners – they all say they can’t go back. It’s one of the most disappointing things they have to do if they get some Beta Asian guy who has energy to spend maybe 1-2 hrs a week with his wife.

    Common as muck, that story.

    I laugh – laugh so hard I can barely contain myself – when I hear guys like @Truth Speaker tell me what Asia is like.

    He’s like some beta from HK/Taiwan or elsewhere originally, raised overseas, some dream of Asia based on his Aspergery notions and small-town delusions. Even in HK, I recall the salsa dancers there at the salsa convention I went to years ago, all nice girls (not sluts) who liked to dance and went out for a night on the town – were more or less available.

    And girls in shops, girls in financial companies, …??

    Asian Purity. Whatever.

    No wonder these beta males are angry as shit and angling to buy the world. It’s the only thing they really have.

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  432. @Orbital boner
    Gregi, I’m not sure US soliders are that popular in Japan now after the widely publicised rape trials that threatened to chuck out all the US military presence there. And why would they need to rape anyone if they were cleaning out anyway?

    Being a soldier is the kiss of dating death in Korea. Absolutely wholly negative. Being an English teacher is so wildly better it’s not even funny.

    You see ads on dating sites all the time: No blacks, no soldiers. Very open about it.

    Soldiers basically have to pay or get the low-hanging fruit.

    There are lots of white guys in major cities in Asia now, students, teachers etc.

    Also tons of professionals, especiall6 in financial services, engineering and corporate jobs.

    Sure most white guys without a career do better than home, but not nearly as good as Gorbie.

    I added a few things to my situation:
    – Language (highly advise it: Work hard and it pays off)
    – Socialization (socialize, socialize, socialize)
    – Get out there (ie, get out and meet people; get good at formalities like reading business cards and sending thankyous, which is a good way to start e-mail communications, etc.; and HAVE NO FEAR).
    – Use GAME. You need to use game, all the time. Shit tests galore, unlike in the US: They’ll be harder, faster, immediate and you have to have a perfect 100% pass rate. Beta males skate by this by proffering up money, and never get laid. They find the “nice” girls. The same girls that bed the guys with game with extreme enthusiasm – exactly like in the US.
    Negs (deftly and subtly delivered; nothing direct, like in the US; you’re operating from another culture, so disrespect can be cool but also puts off a lot of women; the rules are different). Push-pull. Devil-May-Care attitude. Feigning disinterest as much as possible, while making yourself available (They love to chase; if they think you’re a prize, you never have to seduce them).

    Etc.

    Also, the women like physically fit Western men: The skinny, fragile-looking, wan Asian man physically loses out to the broad-chested, taller, more physically tough Western guy. All the time.

    One thing:

    Be less hairy. The massively hairy chests do tend to disgust. Nice hairy legs or arms are fine.

    Some girls, usually the asexual ones, want the hairless Asian guys; my experience and from what I hear, they’re the low-T low-sex-drive types.

    Sadly, the Asian betas often confuse this low interest for virginality and good-girlieness.

    I doubt an average grunt would clean out unless he’s something special in the looks apartment or has some other outstanding trait. But back in the days when they were the only white guys they did really well, because they were the only game in town.

    And Thailand is SE Asia, it’s a lot easier for most people there than NE Asia. And Thailand is already the richest country in SE Asia because of it’s willing pussies, by the way. 🙂

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  433. Gorb,

    you’re like the energizer bunny…….you just keep on going and going and going!!!! You should get your own blog.. lol!!!

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  434. ”””’Also, the women like physically fit Western men: The skinny, fragile-looking, wan Asian man physically loses out to the broad-chested, taller, more physically tough Western guy. All the time.””””’

    And soldiers don’t meet this criteria?

    Soldiers don’t beat out media guys on that criteria?
    I think they do.

    They probably have more interesting stories to boot.

    You say the woman don’t want relationships and yet they will need you to have degree?

    Come on now.

    Now we know why the media hates us make all that money and still watch soldiers making 900 a month getting pussy.

    he he he

    You seem to require a college degree or some kind of family status in a woman to make her hot. Other guys just need her to be hot and maybe be feminine. Opens up a whole new world.

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  435. on October 3, 2010 at 12:37 pm Gunslingergregi

    No wonder upper class desperate to try to label class and re-enforce womans hypergamy. It is all they got.

    he he he

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  436. on October 3, 2010 at 12:54 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””””Thailand is already the richest country in SE Asia because of it’s willing pussies, by the way. :-)””””

    See it is “low hanging fruit” that has the actual power to raise up whole countries and economies because they are the mojority he he he

    The elite few can only buy so much.

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  437. on October 3, 2010 at 1:09 pm Gunslingergregi

    In summary get your shit together first so you have income coming in without working anymore then be a giant walking the entire world.

    When a woman asks you what do you do?

    You say there is nothing I have to do.

    You will blow 99 percent of their minds.

    All the time in world to hang out have a good time.

    So you want to go to china and hang out and there is no rush.

    You want to go to thailand no rush.

    Do what you want.

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  438. @what

    And soldiers don’t meet this criteria?

    They do. They don’t meet others.

    I just describe what I see. Soldiers are the very bottom of the social pecking order over here. Nobody is lower than the black American soldier and his women except the Bangladeshi workers.

    Really, there’s a massive stigma attached to being a soldier, especially a foreign one.

    Soldiers don’t beat out media guys on that criteria?
    I think they do.

    Physically, many soldiers do- but say you’re a soldier, and interest among almost all women disappears. There’s a very real public perception that, irony aside, women who hang out with foreign soldiers are the cheapest of sluts.

    On the other hand, women who casually have sex with foreign media types or corporate types or even English teachers are okay.

    Go figure.

    I just call it as I see it. I don’t judge. This is their country.

    They probably have more interesting stories to boot.

    This is absolutely true. But them’s the facts on the ground.

    For soldiers to have it good, I’m told SE Asia is gold.

    You say the woman don’t want relationships and yet they will need you to have degree?

    Come on now.

    Absolute truth. No kidding. You need to see the dynamic. It’s also about social status – even to get laid.

    You need a bare minimum. Soldiers bring nothing – they bring Anti-Status, actually. Why? Many reasons.

    But the classy, smart girls who just want to hook up – will pick a slightly nerdly English teacher over the hot bod soldier all the time.

    The reason frankly baffles me – you’d think pussy logic would put the soldier first. But in Korea, it doesn’t.

    It’s just the way it is. Any guy who’s lived here, or Korean girl, will confirm this.

    There’s all kinds of other weird shit going on, too – I never said it made any sense.

    Now we know why the media hates us make all that money and still watch soldiers making 900 a month getting pussy.
    he he he
    You seem to require a college degree or some kind of family status in a woman to make her hot. Other guys just need her to be hot and maybe be feminine. Opens up a whole new world.

    Well, in Korea, as a foreigner, you get a “Must Be Good” pass until you’re tested in some ways; but you lose it when you announce that you’re a soldier.

    It’s a social thing. Soldiers are associated with low class – rude – selfish – violent – obnoxious behavior. Also low intelligence.

    Whether true or not, this is the perception.

    My family is old-school military; I personally find this offensive. My personal opinion is irrelevant – if you want to get properly laid in this country, and have the best options, you play by the social rules as they are.

    Sad, but true.

    I’m told, like I said, that the SE Asian countries are better for the military – the Philippines especially, but also Thailand.

    The truth is that there’s a fairly wide and deep level of general cultural hostility to American soldiers here – despite the overall security requirement for their remaining. It’s partly nationalism, partly historical resentment (the same goes for the Chinese), and the absurd notion that it’s the US that prevents reunion of N and S Korea. I’d say China is the evil monster on that front – obviously.

    It’s also a left-right thing over here. Note that feminism and lefty causes are now getting pretty big here, and resenting foreign imperialism is quite trendy.

    So, … you do the math.

    Want the pretty college grad working at the front desk?

    Don’t be a soldier.

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  439. what, were looking at the sidebar icons and saw yours with this thread, at the bottom, and my fist thought before clicking was: “This thread… it’s going and going… just like the energizer bunny”.

    Baaaam!

    Gorb,

    you’re like the energizer bunny…….you just keep on going and going and going!!!!

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  440. @Morsellaux
    what, were looking at the sidebar icons and saw yours with this thread, at the bottom, and my fist thought before clicking was: “This thread… it’s going and going… just like the energizer bunny”.
    Baaaam!
    Gorb,
    you’re like the energizer bunny…….you just keep on going and going and going!!!!

    Hey. Not often something comes up that I know something about. This is one pool in which I swam deeply. So I need to milk it pretty hard.

    Also, it’s hard-won learning. For all the dudes out there who are wondering what to do with themselves, I still say:
    Get thee to Asia.

    If you go to Japan, let me know how it is. The Japanese always freaked me out.

    Especially the sexual culture over there. Just a short distance, and yet so far. I’ve seen some strange stuff, but Japanese women pulled weird like I’ve never seen before.

    Not freaky or fetishy or whatever – just, … weird.

    And then utterly normal.

    The weirdness just lurches out at you sometimes, and you do a double-take and say, what the hell was that?

    Weird things:

    – 17 year-old makes increasingly aggressive passes at me. Colored hair. Smart, College-bound. Had no idea why she insisted, at this club- waaay too young. I have no interest in jail time, and hot enough but – damn – limited English. I figured it was some cracked bet with her friends. I wasn’t hot enough to make passes like that at. She wasn’t drunk. No chick ever did that to me, ever, anywhere else. I assume there was some mental instability. It wasn’t a money thing. Just– what the hell was that?

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  441. I am willing to bet the black girls that the white guys are dating are of east sub-saharan and not west sub-saharan descent.

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  442. Gorb, – 17 year-old

    How did you know? There is that “school girl” look fashion fade and a 21 may try to mimic deliberately a 17.

    But yea, culture is more than a bit weird. Men buying used girls’ panties properly sealed in vacuum pack to preserve the odors, in vending machines. Fetishized, herbalized. Well, one thing… if full range functional fembots get produced eventually, they would be Made in Japan.

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  443. @Morsellaux
    “””what, were looking at the sidebar icons and saw yours with this thread, at the bottom, and my fist thought before clicking was: “This thread… it’s going and going… just like the energizer bunny”.””

    “”Baaaam!

    Gorb,

    you’re like the energizer bunny…….you just keep on going and going and going!!!!””

    Morsellaux,

    You’re right—it’s magic!!

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  444. @Gorbachev
    @what

    “And soldiers don’t meet this criteria?”

    what??? Gorb, I didn’t say that. SEE, you are going and going so much you are confusing yourself!!! You need to rest. hahhaha!!

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  445. Morsellaux,

    where is your blog? What about those hamsters? booo……

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  446. what, patience my lovely grasshopper, in due time.

    (really not much of it at the moment…)

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  447. @Morsellaux
    “what, patience my lovely grasshopper, in due time.

    (really not much of it at the moment…)”

    Yes master! (smiling)

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  448. @What,

    Yes, it was Anonymous.

    Japan —
    I lost the other weird stories.

    – I got to know a Japan Airlines flight attendant once. One of the most coldly beautiful women I’ve ever seen. All of a sudden, at one point, she asks, are we going up to my hotel room? I say – I guess so. We go up, and in a very mater-of fact, almost clinical fashion, have sex. It was interesting she was hot, etc. All good. But she was as pragmatic and cold as ice. As in: serve me, I serve you, serve me some more, do this for a while, done. Thanks.

    And then back to her public persona. That went on a few times – and not a drop, not a hint of anything even approaching intimate relations. Cold – as – ice.

    – Young woman, not sure of her age, very successfully gamed target. Ended up screaming at the top of her lungs and pretending to be a molested 12-year old. No exaggeration or lie. I asked her – what the hell – are you okay? She says: Men like it this way.

    It was a huge turnoff. Yes, I want to imagine I’m about to go to jail. Sure.

    She had no idea how to do it any other way.

    – One girl carried her vibrator around with her everywhere. When we were getting busy, she insisted on pulling it out and having it handy. She first went and got a fresh towel and put it on the towel. I assumed it was for the purpose of convenience or whatever. No – Don’t touch the towel! Ever! It’s the Vibrator Stand. Only the vibrator touches the towel. i assumed – it might spoil the pure essence of Vibratordom to touch the towel.

    – One girl danced for me as a means to arousing my attention. It was, I must say, the least but strangest sexy dance I’ve ever seen. Where she learned that is anyone’s guess. I began to suspect she’d never had actual sex before until the dance was done. It was the Elaine Funky Dance of the bedroom. And she insisted on doing it – it was the ticket to male orgasm.

    – The kissing. What’s with the wide-open-mouth kissing? A lot of inexpert lip-smearing and really unsexy tongue lashing. That has to be brought under control.

    – One girl’s obsession with matching colors. Not just blue, … the same *shade* of blue. All undergarments of the same color. All the time. Always a different color, but the same color in perfect sets. Right down to socks and various peripherals.

    Did I just happen to find every crazy Japanese woman? I assumed I was just unlucky.

    And then there were the normal fetishes. But some of the OCD/general weirdness was just generally weird. Not sexy weird. Just, … weird.

    Japan.

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  449. @Gorbachev,

    “”Did I just happen to find every crazy Japanese woman? I assumed I was just unlucky.

    And then there were the normal fetishes. But some of the OCD/general weirdness was just generally weird. Not sexy weird. Just, … weird.

    Japan.””

    You must have been sending some sort of vibes out to these weird women….”come get me!! I’m game!!”. lol!!!! ” I’m the white guy who wants to experience the mystery of the orient!” hahahha!! I think you got it.

    My alpha brother (the eldest) is very much attracted to those japanese women. I guess his preference is “weird”!

    I’m sure you have more to tell….I’m bracing myself!!!hahah!!

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  450. No more on Japanese girls, sorry.

    One weird fucking country.

    Actually, everything is a little bit weird about Japan. Politics, art, religion, everything. It’s just not like anywhere else.

    90% normal, 10% What The Fuck?

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  451. Japan doesn’t seem all that weird to me. But I’ve been here so long that I’m probably accustomed to the pathogen load of strangeness in the environment.

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  452. The longer you’re there, the crazier it all seems.

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  453. Just
    So
    Damned
    Strange

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  454. It makes sense though, given Japan’s geography and history. It should be a strange place. It would be weird if it wasn’t weird.

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  455. One of my friends had a girl in Japan that would come over so she could practice sex. She actually asked if he would have sex with her to practice. No relationship, just training sessions. And she was hot.

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  456. Gorb,

    Not meaning to drag the topic of Japan and it’s weirdness out, the answer lies in their history with China. They are alllll Chinese, but they would never admit to it. Now, I’m not a history major, but from my friends especially one –very knowledgeable–told us their strange ways are rooted in how Japan was formed. Google it, maybe you’ll find it. I’m too lazy to do it!!haha!! Us Chinese will always dig up info on the Japanese. We have a long history with them and NOT a good one. They are very good at wiping history. I won’t go into that, for I would end up being you–the energizer bunny!! haha!! All is well now, I believe.

    I was in Tokyo a few years ago and I have NO desire to go back–well, maybe to the outskirts of Japan with water, mountains and trees–what I love. I hear Kyoto is beautiful.

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  457. @al’ Thor

    One of my friends had a girl in Japan that would come over so she could practice sex. She actually asked if he would have sex with her to practice. No relationship, just training sessions. And she was hot.

    Same story, but I didn’t think it was too too weird. I had a girl I met on a short project in Japan, hot enough, definitely skinny; I thought, nice girl. No chance for a relationship. Her English was bad, spoke no Korean (annyonghaseo and bibimbap don’t count), my Japanese was terrible and at the time neither of us had a means of communicating.

    But she got me interested and one night she asked if I could teach her something. I said sure – and when she said sex, I was taken aback and assumed there’s been a miscommunication.

    Nope.

    She wanted me to teach her how to have sex. She was demure and shy until we got to her hotel room; again, I assumed I’d misunderstood. Then she came out of the washroom and was wearing a towel. She sat on the bed.

    I had no idea what to do – but then, well, the rest just sort-of came naturally.

    She wanted to practice sex, learn how to do it with a guy, and I’m guessing she was mid-20’s (I was early 30’s). Hard to tell. But she wasn’t all that bad at it – and not obviously inexperienced. I have no idea why she characterized it that way, but it was true – she was just trying things out. She’d have read something, and wanted to see if it worked; she wanted to see the various ways she could come; the ones that were successful were quickly discarded and on we went to something else. After, what, I forget, but maybe 8 meetings over the course of four months, not including lunch once, she decided we’d had enough sex and she met up and said thank you and good for putting up with me. She “paid” me by having sex one last time – in which it was again very weird because she tried basically everything.

    I have *NO* idea what her regular sex life was like, though I knew she had a man or two, and no idea what was up with that, or why she needed to “study” sex, but it was all very matter-of-fact and completely rational to her.

    Bizarre culture. I have no way to characterize it. Just weird.

    Just when you think the place makes sense – whammo.

    Wet fish in the face.

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  458. @What,

    They absorbed a lot of Chinesecultlure, but Chinese they ain’t. Trust me on that. The Chinese have more in common with Westerners in many ways. The Japanese are just their own little world.

    The Koreans, too – but weird in conventional ways.

    Something about Japanese society is just, … strange.

    Apparently, it always has been. Travelers in previous times have said much the same thing.

    And when it comes to sex, it’s not that Japan defies the cultural norms of Asia, and is thus hard to link to other Asian countries: it defies the cultural norms of anywhere.

    If it happens, it happens there.

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  459. what
    Gorb,

    Not meaning to drag the topic of Japan and it’s weirdness out, the answer lies in their history with China. They are alllll Chinese, but they would never admit to it. Now, I’m not a history major…
    ———————
    They probably share a lot of ancestors, if you go back a few thousand years. But saying Japanese are really Chinese is about like saying the English are really Germans. The Japanese are genetically very close to Koreans, a little less close to Chinese. Culturally they are quite distinct from China although, as Gorby mentioned, they did assimilate a lot of Chinese culture back in the day.

    I think the weirdness of Japan is being overstated here. China seemed a lot weirder to me than Japan when I experienced both cultures for the first time in the ’90s. Is there anything stranger than the way Chinese people stare?

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  460. There is an old book on sex in Japan. I think it was called “sex and marriage in Japan”, can’t remember. A Brit (Japan is kryptonite to Brits, the whole island thing you know) investigated all the wild and wacky sexual mores. Pretty good book but not for the light of heart.

    I’ve also heard that Japanese porn is wild and wacky too but I wouldn’t know….something I’ve heard….

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  461. Dad,

    I’m Chinese and I KNOW what I am talking about. Japanese ARE CHINESE. They haven’t just assimilated. They ARE CHINESE. They would have you alll think otherwise and majority Chinese would not want to even acknowledge that the Japanese are Chinese, but they ARE. Like I said, I’m not a history major, but I’ll try to dig up some facts–real facts , cause the Japanese love to wipe out important evidences that present them in ways they don’t like to be presented. I’m speaking more about the older generation, cause the younger generations have NO real solid idea. History books have been altered or parts deleted etc…… trust me.

    [Editor: Japanese and Chinese look markedly different. There has been enough time for them to diverge.]

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  462. Editor,
    It’s not so much their looks. Their origin is Chinese. No disputing. They can call themselves what they like. Their roots are Chinese.

    [Editor: If you want to play that game, then all of our origins are from a distant ancestor in Africa. Like I said, enough time apart has passed to make the credible claim that japanese and chinese are two different asian ethnicities, if not races.]

    nice talking to you. you never talk to me.

    [Are you a chick? What do you look like? This counts towards the attention I will pay you.]

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  463. what
    Editor,

    I think we are both correct.
    According to historical literature (the few we know of), the first emperor of China sent 3,000 youths (all virgins) to the islands surrounding China to search for herbs that will give him eternal life in 219 B.C. The first emperor believed the god(s) occupied these islands. This operation was led by a military leader named “Tsui Fook”. This group of youth, did not find any such herbs and instead defected and occupied the island now known as Japan.
    Anyone can do a search and see what they will find. I got my sources from friends and people who’s studied Chinese /Japanese History
    You could imagine like “Lord of the Flies” what went on. Don’t ask me what happen next. why weren’t they caught? etc….I have no clue, cause no literature tells you. Nothing was recorded to my knowledge.

    I am a chick. Attention or not, I’m just saying is nice to talk to you!

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  464. what

    China sent 3,000 youths (all virgins) to the islands surrounding China to search for herbs that will give him eternal life in 219 B.C.

    asian girls still search for herbs in foreign lands – it’s called emigrating to Los Angeles

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  465. @What,

    They’re not Chinese.

    The Chinese think everyone in Asia is Chinese. I’ve sat in on this lecture before.

    – Japanese is unrelated to Chinese. It’s distantly related to Korean, and hence to Mongolian and a few Siberian languages. It’s probably that the Japanese have been there more or less since the end of the Ice Age. They absorbed migrants from Korea in large doses between 2000-6000 years ago. The language is different enough to share points of grammar only – the similarity in vocabulary is likely from recent contact, as in the last 500 years, rather than a genetic root.
    – Genetically, the Japanese are Asian. This says nothing. In the time frames we’re talking about, the “Chinese” didn’t exist – 6000 years ago, there were dozens of unrelated cultures in China, almost separate races, and the current Han Chinese are the result of a slow but steady migration from the south to the North over 3000 years.

    The Koreans and the Japanese may be the last indigenous holdouts of what was once a different Asian population. The really tiny holdouts would be the Siberian tribes not yet completely exterminated.

    Culture: China was the home of many cultures. Most would be shocked to hear themselves called “Chinese”. That’s just a modern label. In the past, there was no consciousness of “Chineseness”: and looking back on it, you can only apply the name “Chinese” as a geographical notion. The Han Chinese, on the other hand, have come to dominate China because their economy (rice and riverine agriculture) allowed them to absorb other populations and have much higher populations themselves – thus just sopping up the cultural landscape like a sponge picking up water.

    However, the Japanese practiced animist religions, were resolutely tribal, barely organized, and when organized, organized on uniquely Japanese lines in Asia – the same as the Koreans, though the Koreans bit deeply into the rice cake of Chinese culture, and were more Confucian than the Chinese.

    The Japanese – no.

    As an Island nation, one thing they’re not, is Chinese. They’re Asian in the same way England is European – kinda sure, but mostly not really.

    But the Chinese thing China is the center of the world. Certainly of Asia.

    I’ve been told that Thais are just Chinese. The Thais have a very different opinion.

    Frankly, half the stuff the Chinese think they invented were either invented by preceding cultures, which would not have identified themselves as Chinese at all, in fact as definitely not connected to the ancestors of the Chinese, or were invented by neighboring peoples who are now gone or have forgotten their own history themselves.

    I’ve had it explained to me how Koreans are just a different kind of Chinese. I’ve been to both places. I’m familiar with both – intimately.

    I’ll tell you this:

    For all their borrowing of things from China, the one thing Korea is not is Chinese.

    So – remember: Asia is not China. China is not Asia.

    And, actually, for whatever it means, “Chinese” doesn’t mean that much, either. It’s like summing up European culture as “White”. As if Greek, Albanian, Finnish and Basques are all the same.

    China is its own world. It actually makes little sense to see it as one anything – culture, polity, social group.

    So – calling the Japanese Chinese is more or less absurd.

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  466. @what
    According to historical literature (the few we know of), the first emperor of China sent 3,000 youths (all virgins) to the islands surrounding China to search for herbs that will give him eternal life in 219 B.C. The first emperor believed the god(s) occupied these islands. This operation was led by a military leader named “Tsui Fook”. This group of youth, did not find any such herbs and instead defected and occupied the island now known as Japan.

    Japan already had a substantial population – the Jomon people invented ceramics there way before the Chinese, on the order of 2000 years earlier, a fact once disputed but now ignored by Chinese scholars, because it’s deeply embarassing and very weird. Japan had little material culture, but for some reason, felt the need for pottery. And pretty fucking good pottery too – they still make the highest quality pottery in the world, and their techniques are traditionally the most advanced. What a bunch of itinerant hunters and fishermen were doing inventing pottery is anyone’s guess.

    So a few thousand Chinese virgins would have been sucked into the population almost without leaving a trace.

    The Jomon were preceded by other indigenous cultures. The Samurai, much to Japanese embarassment, might have been partly Ainu; and the Ainu certainly mixed hugely with the Japanese. They also had another “indigenous” population – the Mountain Men – who are genetically distinct to this day.

    Typologically, while the Japanese mixed more freely than others, there’s also a very Japanese element. Polynesian genes are all over SW Japan; also Polynesian culture Okinawa was a Japanese-ish culture powerfully influenced by Polynesia. You can see it in the people.

    Don’t forget – the Polynesians are a holdout from the Pre-Han days. The Polynesians, as far away as Hawaii or Eastern Island or NZ, started off before their boating days in Fujian and especially Taiwan. Until about 400 years ago, the majority of the people in Taiwan were “aboriginal” – ie, the Polynesian root stock that started and then went nuts in their outrigger canoes.

    You can still see traces of these old genes in southern China Not much, but it’s there.

    Japan did all of its own cultural development. The Japanese have their own mindset; their societies have always been different in both organization and outlook. They skipped China and went to India for their Buddhism once they traced the source; and they used Kanji, but found it entirely inadequate for Japanese, which is a completely and utterly unrelated language.

    They ate rice, but never bought into most of the Chinese traditional way of life or economy. They remained simple, barely organized, top-heavy and resolutely peasanty. The Samurai changed everything, but even then, their methods and organization were resolutely unique in an Asian context.

    They got away with this because as an island, they could.

    You want Chinese?

    The Vietnamese absorbed so much Chinese culture, from the presence of CHinese military bases in Vietnam and Indochina, that it’s the principal reason this ethnicity exists in a sea of Cambodians, Laos and other groups. The culture emerged from the Chinese-SE Asian culture complex.

    And I;m not talking about Vietnamese-Chinese: I’m talking about pure Vietnamese. Almost all of their culture came from China. They were forest hunters and itinerant farmers before the Chinese colonized the area.

    In fact, China has a better territorial claim in Vietnam than it does on Tibet or Mongolia. Maybe even better than on Taiwan.

    The Vietnamese hate this notion, but being mostly Chinese is what separates them from the rest of SE Asia, which is very non-Chinese.

    Korea is much more Chinese-influenced that Japan. And Korea is many things, but Chinese it ain’t.

    What galls me is Chinese imperialistic thought. The Chinese are so used to thinking of themselves as the be-all and end-all of Asia, they forget that… outside of China, and inside, too, there are other histories, other peoples and whole language families – that had nothing to do with China.

    It’s like the English thinking that European history is nothing but a tiny subsection of English history.

    Anyone can do a search and see what they will find. I got my sources from friends and people who’s studied Chinese /Japanese History
    You could imagine like “Lord of the Flies” what went on. Don’t ask me what happen next. why weren’t they caught? etc….I have no clue, cause no literature tells you. Nothing was recorded to my knowledge.

    I am a chick. Attention or not, I’m just saying is nice to talk to you!

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  467. omg!! Just logged on and can’t believe you’re (Gorb) at it again. I MIGHT read what you wrote later. MAYBE!!! If I wanted to know so much I could have search it out myself. I don’t need you to tell me, or unless you have to tell everyone!!!

    Gorb,

    Is interesting how you seem to appear to know more about us than we know about ourselves. I’m not here to prove my knowledge of our own race and culture to you nor anyone here. If I really wanted to I would have done it already. I would find that simply a waste of my time. However, I will take what you have written and show some of my friends and see what they make of it…if they are even interested. I’ll then either chose to re educate you or simply allow you to continue to believe what you choose to believe- be it absurd or not.

    I come to this blog just to enjoy what others are saying, so I tend to just disregard assumptions that are clearly unsubstantiated and rude remarks such as yours. Is amazing and disturbing how you have to make everything so controversial and your need to be right so very much consumes you.

    I really don’t want to nor care enough to spent the energy and time to refute what you’ve said and remember-that does not make you right. I always chose to let ignorance be ignorance.

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  468. @Firepower
    @what

    “China sent 3,000 youths (all virgins) to the islands surrounding China to search for herbs that will give him eternal life in 219 B.C.

    asian girls still search for herbs in foreign lands – it’s called emigrating to Los Angeles”

    Now, that’s more like it. Someone who has a sense of humor and is not always soooooooo controversial and difficult.

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  469. @What,

    You make statements like “The Japanese are Chinese”, which is absurd on its face and in depth, Typical Chinese BS, and then accuse me of having to be right?

    Clearly, you have a dangerously small amount of knowledge. You know nothing of Chinese, Japanese or even Asian palaeo-history; likely little of recent history, for that mater; and you base statements on nothing but air.

    I, on the other hand, not actually being Asian, had to both study and experience the cultures I did in Asia on my own – from an outsider’s perspective.

    I’m not trying to be controversial. That would be you.

    If you’re going to make ridiculous statements, you do need *something* to back it up.

    You go show what I wrote to your friends. Who, likely, know less about Chinese history than I do (having formally studied it and read it for years and having had dated a Chinese history professor-in-training), and having had lived in two Asian countries for quite some time, and etc.–

    Just because I’ve got white skin doesn’t mean I’m a retard when it comes to Asia.

    So if you’re going to say stuff like Japan is just China, then be prepped to tell us why.

    The reason I pick on this one issue is that the Chinese, especially the ones who know the least about their own country (usually the ones who know as little as possible) are the first ones to trot out this sort of thing. China = Center of the World, Everyone Else in Asia Is Just Some Kind of Chinese.

    Hm, … interesting.

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  470. assumptions, assumptions, defensiveness, defensiveness….blah, blah, blah……

    You have no idea where I’m from and who I know.

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  471. What’s last few posts are great examples of how differently the female mind operates.

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  472. Laura–

    You guys are smarter than we are, you don’t need our help running your country.

    The degree to which NE Asians are smarter than whites on average is small and here’s the thing. It’s ENTIRELY in math/visiospatial. They score a little lower in verbal ability. Verbal is where social dominance / leadership is. Math/visiospatial is an important niche in a techo society, but it’s basically a report to a white manager niche. As well they have too low testosterone to be as creative as white guys. The Chinese never invented science. Instead they invented various well, inventions. Never connected to unifying theories that were productive of more inventions. Far too much stasis and lack of rebellion from within.

    Whites have almost as much as blacks and way more than NE Asians on average. Happy middle.

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  473. As well SE Asians are way dumber than whites than NE Asians are smarter, and in the former case it’s across the board.

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  474. *Whites have almost as much testosterone (as much actually but a bit less T receptors) as blacks and way more than NE Asians on average. And way more intelligence than blacks, a bit more than E Asians on verbal and overall just a little less.

    Winning combination.

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  475. Gorbachev-

    (some Chinese guys have massive schlongs, defying the racial stereotypes, I’ve heard).

    All human traits as compared between ethnic/racial groups overlap on ethnic bell curves. It’s a question of how close or far the overlap is on the trait.

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  476. what

    @Firepower
    @what

    “China sent 3,000 youths (all virgins) to the islands surrounding China to search for herbs that will give him eternal life in 219 B.C.

    asian girls still search for herbs in foreign lands – it’s called emigrating to Los Angeles”

    Now, that’s more like it. Someone who has a sense of humor and is not always soooooooo controversial and difficult.

    mmkay. so then email me a valid pic showing off all your goodpoints and none of lilgurls’ bad ones and you’ll quickly see how genteel i be

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  477. Doug1
    *Whites have almost as much testosterone (as much actually but a bit less T receptors) as blacks and way more than NE Asians on average. And way more intelligence than blacks, a bit more than E Asians on verbal and overall just a little less.

    Nope. The only hormonal difference between whites and pureblooded East Asians is that white men have more estrogen.

    You also have lower IQs across the board and are plagued by genetic weaknesses to everything from AIDS to diabetes death rates (look it up)

    The only reason why the white “verbal IQ” is better is because, surprise surprise, they are better at regurgitating pop-culture factoids than immigrants.

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  478. Doug1
    The degree to which NE Asians are smarter than whites on average is small and here’s the thing. It’s ENTIRELY in math/visiospatial.

    Wrong. The white/North Chinese gap is enormous. White IQ varies from 92-102, North and Central Chinese IQ ranges from 108-116 and they have a higher standard deviation.

    [Editor: Your “facts” are off. The Chinese IQ is around 105, not 108-116. Are you an azn troll?]

    The Chinese never invented science. Instead they invented various well, inventions. Never connected to unifying theories that were productive of more inventions. Far too much stasis and lack of rebellion from within.

    China had a have a body of scientific/technological study. What they didn’t do is strictly separate philosophy from science, there’s a difference.

    [It must burn you up that pretty much everything of note in modern civilization was invented by white europeans.]

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  479. @Truth Never Speaker
    Doug1
    The degree to which NE Asians are smarter than whites on average is small and here’s the thing. It’s ENTIRELY in math/visiospatial.

    Wrong. The white/North Chinese gap is enormous. White IQ varies from 92-102, North and Central Chinese IQ ranges from 108-116 and they have a higher standard deviation.

    Back up with references, please.

    Nothing I’ve read has suggested this.

    What I’ve read has suggested very slightly higher average scores in math/visio/spatial; very slightly lower in verbal/analytical.

    The Chinese never invented science. Instead they invented various well, inventions. Never connected to unifying theories that were productive of more inventions. Far too much stasis and lack of rebellion from within.

    China had a have a body of scientific/technological study. What they didn’t do is strictly separate philosophy from science, there’s a difference.

    Not really.

    The Chinese were in the same boat as the Indians.

    Science was an almost purely Western invention; not only Western, almost purely Western European invention. Both as an idea and an approach and as a body of knowledge.

    Asia has still produced virtually no modern science by comparison.

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  480. @Truth Speaker,

    If you weren’t such an obvious troll, I might almost reply to you.

    Western men are voted more manly by most Asian women. I’ve had this from every Asian woman I’ve been with, and that’s a very, very substantial number. And most of them were at least cute, many were very attractive. You putz.

    And Westerners have higher verbal/ analytical IQ for the same reason Asians have very slightly higher math/spatial IQs: Inherent genetic trends.

    The differences between both groups is quite marginal, except that Western men have much more testosterone. Go look that up, buddy.

    Little, tiny Asian man needs to cling to his myths. And his little, tiny weewee.

    Truth Speaker
    Wrong. The white/North Chinese gap is enormous. White IQ varies from 92-102, North and Central Chinese IQ ranges from 108-116 and they have a higher standard deviation.

    [Editor: Your “facts” are off. The Chinese IQ is around 105, not 108-116. Are you an azn troll?]

    And I guess you’re not counting southern or central China?

    I see. They’re not “Chinese”.

    Gotcha.

    Let’s try, …

    Northern European (cut out the south, like those retarded Italians and Greeks who never did nuthin) versus Northern Chinese. Only.

    Stop throwing up pinatas.

    China had a have a body of scientific/technological study. What they didn’t do is strictly separate philosophy from science, there’s a difference.

    [It must burn you up that pretty much everything of note in modern civilization was invented by white europeans.]

    A lot of very sour Asians have illusions of superiority.

    I’ve actually lived in China. Any illusions of superiority have been drummed out of me. They’re superior in no way to Westerners culturally/genetically.

    All of the ills of Western civilization are chomping down so hard on China right now, it’ll be indistinguishable in every possible dysfunctionality (Crime is already there, including violent crime) from the worst excesses of the West.

    More or less, … within 5 years. Or less.

    What will the Asian Superiority geeks do then?

    They’ll invent some other shit to throw, surely.

    Orderly societies organized along feudal modes will no doubt be touted as superior.

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  481. The Chinese IQ is around 105

    Did you even bother looking at how Rushton obtained those numbers or are you content with trying to look knowledgeable based on the wiki page alone?

    [Editor: You are a misinformed azn troll and a liar with insecurity issues. Please take your 105 IQ average and figure out a way to get yourself laid.]

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  482. And oddly enough, crime rates have only decreased in China over the last few years. Gorbachev consistently contradicts himself and then throws in these non-facts (read: lies).

    Not only that but he has incredibly simplistic views of both IQ and testosterone.

    For one, the “verbal IQ” component is broken down into several sections depending on the test- and there isn’t “one” IQ test. It always amuses me when whites proudly declare that they scored “125” on “the” IQ test. THE IQ test; as if there aren’t five, six or more of them out there with different sub-tests, content and standard deviations. It’s cute.

    As for testosterone, free levels of testosterone in “Asians” is actually HIGHER than in whites OR blacks. The thing is, just having testosterone floating around doesn’t do anything. It has to be converted, and then it has to bind to receptors, and these receptors are present at various structures within the body to serve a certain role.

    You could have a Northeast Asian, such as a Mongol, with the highest general testosterone, DHT or what have you levels and he would still not display much hirsutism- the receptors are just not right for it.

    Second, since Gorbachev seems to drink the Fox News/CNN Kool-Aid here is another correction- the reason why East Asian women are more “feminine” is not because they have more estrogen- it’s because they have less testosterone.

    A similar effect is present in East Asian men- they have the same testosterone levels, DHT ratios and 5alpha reductase activity- just less estrogen.

    The low crime rates in East Asian nations is because of high East Asian male and female IQ, and low East Asian female testosterone. Not high estrogen levels or a lack of testosterone in males.

    But I’m sure all of that flew over your head.

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  483. Lets not talk about your nerd fantasies for a second, because we know you’re wrong and a fucking retard to boot.

    Lets talk about your Fox News/CNN snippets like “Traditional Chinese morality has taken a free fall because of Reform And Opening up!!”

    No, it hasn’t. It amazes me how far off the mark you can get. Every single one of my relatives, all my friends, my friends relatives, are just as straight-laced as we Overseas Chinese are.

    Even though Shanghainese women are slandered by other Chinese people you won’t find many whores there either. There is just a huge concentration of scum that follows foreigners around it seems.

    And yes since you are so obsessed as a foreign born Chinese guy I do get a lot of attention in Taiwan and China but I don’t want or need any more. No man in my family has ever cheated (that I know of). When a Chinese guy cheats he usually tells everyone and everyone knows but his wife so you don’t have to bother lying to me again with your non-existent grasp of reality.

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  484. That said I don’t even read half of your garbage because it’s clear you’re an idiot. I’m trying to come up with a diagnosis, it sounds like you’re a pathological liar for sure.

    Asperger’s or some functioning autism might be second. I have no idea what gunslinger has.

    And the fact that you revere PUA’s like Mystery or whoever else just shows how utterly sad you are.

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  485. @TruthSeeker,

    Here’s my last response to you, Mr. Superiority.

    – The Chinese gov stats are largely lies. The truth is most murders go unreported officially. This is why the crime rate seems so low. This has long been understood. Normal Chinese people in China know this. This is why Chinese are so cautious about crime:
    http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2010/06/03/spiraling_violent_crime_triggers_concern_in_china/

    “According to official statistics, violent crime in China jumped 10 percent last year, with 5.3 million reported cases of homicide, robbery, and rape. It was the first time since 2001 that violent crime increased, said the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences in its Chinese Rule of Law Blue Book released in February.

    Experts like Pi Yiyun, a professor of criminology at the China University of Political Science and Law in Beijing, are skeptical about those figures.

    Pi said he doesn’t know what the actual rates are, but he doesn’t think it’s plausible that violent crime was falling between 2001 and 2008. He said provincial or county level officials, not the central government, are likely misreporting their data.

    “Many local officials believe the crime rate is just a number that can be randomly modified,” he said. “They tend to cover up the truth and report a false number, because a high crime rate might affect their chance of being promoted.””

    “Borge Bakken, an expert on Chinese crime and professor of sociology at the University of Hong Kong, said his research indicates violence, particularly homicides, has been climbing since 1980.

    “The real crime problem is much higher than the recorded official crime rates, and the police are well aware of that fact,” he said.”

    and:

    “”One almost never heard of such incidents in China until recently,” he wrote, noting that he first visited China in 1986. “In fact, I’ve always thought of China as a remarkably safe country.”

    “You do wonder, ‘What the heck is going on?'” Chovanec said in a phone interview. “I really don’t know. … I posted that (essay) as a genuine query. Maybe such things have been going on for a very long time and we never even knew.”””

    So, *I* am an idiot?

    I worked with state media in China. I worked with a half-dozen media agencies and companies. I worked with people who worked in information delivery. They were cynical and cautious at first, but did open up to me (yes, even a pale-skin foreigner). I know shit about China from the inside many Chinese don’t know.

    So you can shut the fuck up. You’re clearly so blinded by your attitude you can’t see reality.

    If you believe the shiny city myth that’s being spread by casual travelers in China, then you’re falling for the illusion.

    In the back of your mind, you know I’m right, but refuse to see it publicly. That’s fine. The only truth to suffer is yours.

    On Morality, the old bizzarro story about young girls selling their “virginity” to old men is surfacing there, too, after possibly being copied from Japan. Young girls there slut it up all the time – and this is in medium-sized cities. Young men are doing the same thing.

    Divorce in the cities is now an epidemic. The hallucinatory feminist disease never hit the US as hard as it did China. In most Chinese cities, there’s no trace of traditional morality. Young girls used to save themselves for marriage ; this is now an absurdity.

    and *THAT* I get from the *state* media in China. As well as my own experience and the experiences of mainland Chinese I know, all of whom complain loudly about how the standards for public morality have fallen through the floor. Especially with this current generation.

    The migrant workers at the lower end are among the major misrcreants (they don’t have anything like a normal life); the middle classes are doing what the middle class always does; and the upper classes don’t feel like rules apply to them. Same shit as anywhere else.

    Taiwan and HK are different – for various reasons, traditional morality often survives there on the surface more easily than in China.

    How is it possible for you not to know this about China? Are you deaf, blind and dumb? The *CHINESE* talk about this in every forum, among themselves and with foreigners endlessly.

    I fucking *lived* there. I didn’t teach English. I worked for media companies and did media work, pretty much across the board.

    I know the shit that goes down. I’m not some asbergery 15 year-old with wet dreams. I actually did it.

    You, being an Asian Superiority troll, will find some way to dismiss anything –

    But I spend large amounts of time dealing with media types and government types and financial types in Korea and China. Lots of time. People who actually know shit.

    You, sir, clearly imbibed deeply from the well of That’s Just Common Knowledge! And worse, from the delusional self-loving Foreign Born Chinese worship of the Mother Land.

    Please. You want official stats? Can’t be trusted in China. Not one number. Nothing – ever. Ignore all of it all the time.

    You want truth?

    Go seek it, little tiny boy.

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  486. @Truth Seeker,

    “Police in May seal off a privately run kindergarten in northern China that was the scene of a grisly attack on adults and children. Murder, robbery and rape are reported to be rampant and random.”

    The Chinese big cities are fast becoming major dens of iniquity. Already prostitution is considered to be off the scale – and is no longer a “safe” subject for state media to talk about, given the estimate from semi-official sources that almost 10% of the 15-30 year-old female population is involved, in some way or another, in the sex trade.

    AIDS and STDS are spreading ridiculously fast in parts of China – but AIDS isn’t a topic for discussion in any media outlet, private or public. Just asking for more cash to fight it can get you in jail. Don’t believe me?

    Many global AIDS activists are holding up China as what not to do. The Chinese are still obsessed with calling AIDS a Foreign Disease. Which it definitely no longer is.

    Drug use: Because the military is involved in the shipping of drugs to Chinese ports, all along the trade routes, intravenous drug use is spiraling up. Don’t know about that, either, right? The use of heroin, the worst of the worst, is unofficially counted to be among the highest levels anywhere in the world, due to cheap access to drugs from Central and SE Asia, abetted by the various shippers with government ties. The cops are often completely powerless to even arrest criminals or touch gangs, because of government protection.

    Different branches of the police (state security, local, provincial) are often working against each other – some protecting a crime boss, others hunting him. Sometimes the crime boss is an actual politician, sometimes a cop. Or a prominent member of the Party.

    Don’t give me your bullshit. China is already sinking fast into a social toilet. You go to one town or spend some some strolling along the Bund or talk to a relative in Beijing and you think you know China?

    There are Chinese in China who think that the Tibetans are a bunch of happy campers. This is why they were so shocked when half a million of them spontaneously rose up two years ago in riots, killing the hated Chinese.

    Why did this happen? Bad Tibetans! No reason to do this!

    And the overseas Chinese buy this toxic cool-aid of non-truth. It always saddens and sickens me how easily Chinese are duped when it comes to China.

    But no. It’s the Westerners who have it wrong. And the Chinese in the know who talk to outsiders?

    Maybe they *are* traitors, and should be killed, beaten, isolated or exiled.

    You sound like one of those Chinese ethno-nationalist keyboard jockeys with the usual host of delusions.

    I will tell you this:

    Game works fantastically well on Chinese women. And if you’ve got game and you’ve got your shit together, Chinese women, classy, smart, educated and very attractive Chinese women – in China–

    Are *very* available for foreign men.

    They just don’t tell people like you about it.

    You’re the reason they likely go to foreign men, actually. How sad for you.

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  487. lots of white supremacy going on here, if chinas sinking fast into a social toilet, people on this board seem to be good at taking advantage of it.

    like white colonialism all over.

    you people are scum.

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  488. Looks like truth never speaker now has to resort to changing his name in order to try to make it look like someone agrees with him! 🙂

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  489. @ Truth Speaker

    I am a chinese guy and do agree with you that chinese women are the most beautiful of the asians. In your earlier postings you gave a rather high ranking for “high class japanese.”

    Funny I always found Japanese women to be an ugly bunch with their misshapen mouths and jaws not to mention their unappealing bodies (those meaty twisted legs just don’t do it for me). Koreans and other asians are ugly for different physical reasons.

    Where are these high class japanese you speak of? What area of japan has a prevalence of this type. The only decent looking japanese girl i can think of off the top of my head is Nozomi Sasaki.

    Oh, and I do agree with you that white dudes date the ugliest asian girls lol. But then the white dudes (particularly americans) are rather ugly themselves. Same with white girls too. I live here I know…

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  490. ok, Japanese girls.
    I come into contact with a lot of these through work. The meetings are usually fairly formal work scenarios though and there is a moderate language barrier.
    Basically, they’re here for 6 months to train. I train em up a little.
    What would be the game plan for a white guy to invade that territory?

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