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Over at GLPiggy’s, a ripping good discussion about feminists’ loathing of fathers and fatherhood ensues.

and one more thing that seriously gets short shrift in these discussions of “men dropping out”: it’s a lot easier to say “fuck it all” to the mother of your children when she’s bloated up into a disgusting fat sow. men quickly lose their desire to support women (and their kids) who are physically repellent to behold.

I find it funny how few pundits in any media capacity address the female obesity problem and its role in destabilizing the mating market. (Bill Bennett wept.) Women might get offended — correction, fat chicks and feminists and their lapdog manboobs and tradcons might get offended — by my assertion that looking like a diseased dirigible will lessen the willingness of men to “man up” and support, financially or emotionally, such ghastly beasts, but those who balk at these impertinent suggestions would do well to think of this apropos analogy:

As unemployed, shiftless men are to women’s desire to be loyal and committed wives, so too are gross fat women to men’s desire to be supportive fathers and husbands.

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Another mischief maker pretends to be a celebrity, and women mist their muffs.

Fake celebrity game. Who says your status has to be backed up by real accomplishments? Chicks dig the illusion.

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Robin Hanson has a follow-up post to his review (sloppy love kiss?) of Sex at Dawn. He quotes from a new book titled Sex at Dusk (hey, where have I heard that before?), which is critical of Sex at Dawn‘s premises, and consequently adjusts his view on the frequency and nature of prehistoric hunter-gatherer/forager promiscuity.

Even so, [author Saxon] does successfully undercut many Sex At Dawn arguments. In humans, sexual jealousy is a universal, females are picky about sex partners, penises aren’t over-sized, testes are small, sperm production slow, and the evidence doesn’t suggest a great deal of sperm competition. Female chimps have little extra-group sex, bonobos don’t usually mate face-to-face, and many Sex At Dawn quotes are misleading, given their context. […]

A key question, to me, is what percentage of our forager ancestor kids were fathered outside pair-bonds. That is, what fraction of kids were born to mothers without a main male partner, or had a father different from that partner. This number says a lot about the adaptive pressures our ancestors experienced related to various promiscuous and polyamorous arrangements today. And hence says a lot about how “natural” are such things.

As one of the commenters noted over there, no evolutionary psychologist ever denied that female promiscuity was a part of human sexuality. We’re only arguing over the degree of female sluttiness, not its existence. And on that count, the free love authors of Sex at Dawn shoot wide of the mark.

I argued similarly to Sex at Dusk (royalties, please?) that the existence of male jealousy, possibly the most powerful emotion in the known universe after the feeling of bliss that accompanies a strong bowel movement, is alone enough to disprove the polyamorists’ contention that humans are wired for wild group sex, constant cheating, and happy ascent to infidelity and polyamory. Any cursory brush with reality will tell you that we’re not; paternity reassurance, female virginity and faithfulness, and other signs of long-term commitment and disposition for loyalty argue convincingly that the norm, at least until relatively recently, has been evolving toward a more monogamous system. Interestingly, we may be evolving *away* again from monogamy and back to our slutty forager roots, thanks to the pathologically altruistic largesse of the mighty West encouraging women to favor the alpha seed capture strategy over the beta provider capture strategy.

PS Robin goes into lengthy and somewhat labyrinthine explanation about how women’s cries during sex are evidence for a promiscuous past. (Read it there, I’m too lazy to summarize. Basically, he says it’s about bragging.) But I have a simpler asnwer: women moan and gasp and shriek to induce orgasm in themselves, and in their lovers. Female orgasm has been scientifically shown to aid fertilization. This is why a woman will scream with pleasure even when you’re screwing her in the middle of the woods and no one is within twenty miles to hear her.

Just sayin’.

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Some equalist utopian claims that “desire modification” will be the next big tech innovation. Hmm… desire modification…. now what kinds of people were the sorts who believed human desire could be reengineered… let me think…

Human desire will never be modified. You can only modify the symptoms of desire, not the foundations of desire itself. But I’m sure plenty of fat chicks would love it if one day men were reformulated to desire rolls of buttery lard, like they were living in some Brave New Shallow Hal World.

I predict in the distant future congenital equalists are going to try to biogenetically reengineer away human differences, to equalize the playing field with respect to IQ and other assorted beneficial personality traits, and then once the deed is done claim victory over the forces of bigotry and prejudice and stereotypes and white privilege and dildos that don’t adequately tickle their prostates.

You heard it here first.

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Not only do chicks dig jerks, but the hottest chicks dig the biggest jerks the most.

So who’s the daddy?

The former “Girls Next Door” star, 32, says that it’s her boyfriend of just nine months, party promoter Pasquale Rotella. “Holly and I are so excited to announce that we are going to be parents,” he tells People. “We’re in love and counting down the days until we meet our beautiful baby. I can hardly believe how lucky I am.”

Having a baby is certainly a bright spot for the CEO of Insomniac Events, who is currently out on $1.2 million bail after a grand jury indictment handed down 29 counts against him and three of his business partners after it was discovered they had bribed an official at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum with $2 million to allow them to throw the Electric Daisy Carnival and other dance parties at the venue, as well as at its sister location, the L.A. Sports Arena. The charges — which Rotella denies — came about after an investigation into the 2010 death of a 15-year-old girl at the EDC party after overdosing on ecstasy.

Breathe deep the cynical gloom,
Watch idealism fade from view.
Beta male dupes look back and lament,
Another day’s useless romantic gesture spent.
Impassioned criminal wrestles her cunt,
Law-abiding man cries for love and has none.
New mother picks up her bastard spawn son,
Beta is on the hook and wishes to get some.
Cold hearted gene that rules the night,
Removes the divine from our sight.
Black is great and white is RACISSSSSSSSS.
But we decide which is truth.
And which is a useful lie?





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  1. If the Moody Blues were alive today, they’d be spinning in their graves.

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  2. +1 for the Knights in White Satin misquote.

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  3. ”knights in white satan!”

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  4. On the contrary, “desire modification” technologies exist right now, and are in widespread use. Consider the effect of SSRI antidepressants on the sex drive. There are men who take them specifically for this effect.

    [heartiste: SSRIs don’t modify desire, they depress desire. the basic working of the underlying desire remains unchanged. another way to look at it: there’s no drug that can make men desire fat chicks, or straight men desire other men.]

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  5. This seems appropriate: hamsters go nuts

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  6. on August 31, 2012 at 7:52 pm Gil Not-Heron

    Neil Armstrong died today
    (with Sambo on the dole)
    He’s done picked up and gone away
    (and Sambo’s on the dole)
    We can’t afford no moonshots now
    (with Sambo on the dole)
    Ten years from now we’ll be broke still
    (with Sambo on the dole)
    The man jus’ upped my taxes
    (’cause Sambo’s on the dole)
    No roads, no parks, no space program
    (but Sambo’s on the dole)
    I wonder why he’s uppin’ me
    (cause Sambo’s on the dole?)
    I paid over 50 grand last year
    (with Sambo on the dole)
    Taxes takin’ my whole damn check,
    Gangstas makin’ me a nervous wreck,
    The price of food is goin’ up,
    An’ as if all that crap wuzn’t enough:
    Neil Armstrong died today
    (with Sambo on the dole)
    He’s done picked up and gone away
    (but Sambo’s on the dole)
    Was all that money I made las’ year
    (for Sambo on the dole?)
    How come there ain’t no money here?
    (Hmm! Sambo’s on the dole)
    Y’know I jus’ ’bout had my fill
    (of Sambo on the dole)
    I think I’ll sen’ the taxman’s bills,
    Airmail special
    (to Sambo on the dole)

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    • on September 1, 2012 at 1:53 am Mr. Pointyface

      Hey; Murka: Love it or leave it. You could make as much after taxes in Sweden, right? Sure you can.

      Because you’re the independent creator. A man on an island of your talent, you don’t need no Sambo garbagemen, stupid niggers working in restaurants, they’re not part of the exquisite scheme that makes you so much money. But why not– they’re physically proximal? Well, because you don’t see it that way. Your feelings count.

      You can do it on your own, ’cause you’re special.

      And delight of delights, you can prove it! Go to Sweden, because you are the real man creator, alone against the world of losers. Or somewhere, anywhere there’s no niggers.

      Maybe Monaco? They’ll love your rough-hewn racism there!!!

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    • Wow. This place is turning into Stormfront: Special Victims Unit.

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    • lmao

      Let the lefty faggots choke in their impotent indignation.
      Sambo on the dole is a hell of a slogan.

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      • Of course “Sambo” has little to do with defunding roads, parks, and the space program. These days whites would rather let our infrastructure collapse and scientific edge vanish than give an extra red cent to the government.

        But by all means, keep lynching that dead horse.

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      • ” These days whites would rather let our infrastructure collapse and scientific edge vanish than give an extra red cent to the government.”

        As IF it’s even worth saving…

        Here’s some news for you – when civilization collapses and disappears, so do all the degenerates and the non-productive. It cleanses the gene pool and does away with the weak and unfit. Let’s hope that NEXT time the survivors get it right and don’t get forced into funding their own destruction – by being forced to support the unfit and the weak. Civilizations come and go…

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      • Who could be more unfit or degenerate than he who cheers on the collapse of civilization? Embracing some nihilistic, black hole ideology isn’t going to improve your life or society.

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      • And embracing nihilistic black people will?

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      • Even if that were true, why should I care if Sambo’s illegitimate spawn lives or dies? Lefties are worse than impotently indignant faggots, they’re willing cuckolds.

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      • Nobody can grant a sense of empathy. That’s inborn. Sorry.

        Just stop being a caustic asshole for two seconds. Try it.

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      • “Just stop being a caustic asshole for two seconds. Try it.”

        Tried that once. Didn’t care for it.

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      • Ironic how all the revered comics of the SWPL’s and other assorted lefties exhibit a high degree of snark, sarcasm, and lack of empathy.

        But when it’s directed at them… oh, well then… it’s being an asshole.

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      • “But Sambo would love and care for your children!” lozlzlzlzlz

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      • “Ironic how all the revered comics of the SWPL’s and other assorted lefties exhibit a high degree of snark, sarcasm, and lack of empathy.

        But when it’s directed at them… oh, well then… it’s being an asshole.”

        I love that in your imagination, I’m some hardcore leftist who’s super “offended” by your world class wit.

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      • I love that in your imagination, I’m some hardcore leftist who’s super “offended” by your world class wit.

        Actually, not in my imagination, but discerned by your very words (and I quote: “Stormfront: Special Victims Unit”), you are indeed butthurt by this parody.

        Which, for the record, was not my creative effort.

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      • Nobody can grant a sense of empathy. That’s inborn. Sorry.

        If you were looking for proof of liberalism, Greg, there it is. Funcrusher read Adam Smith’s Theory of Moral Sentiments once, and now he’s our moral philosopher. (Or worse, he received this “wisdom” third-hand.)

        We have a natural spark of empathy in us that is overwhelmed by our lesser nature. It is therefore effectively artificial, and at any rate, impossible to sustain without deliberate effort and discipline. The left contracts-out their “empathy” to others, particularly the law and government, and call it a day.

        Our ridicule of Sambo is not out of a lack of empathy, it is out of their lack of proportion. What kind of monumental selfishness does it take for a self-centered whiner to blame projects of international (and interplanetary!) greatness for the struggles and suffering he faces in life? We all face infelicities. The monstrously entitled believe that their infelicities take precedence over everything, more important even than the possibility of delivering the most astonishing achievement of mankind.

        Who casts not up his eye to the sun when it rises? But who takes off his eye from a comet, when that breaks out? who bends not his ear to any bell, which upon any occasion rings? But who can remove it from that bell, which is passing a piece of himself out of this world?

        No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were; any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

        John Donne

        In other words, because Sambo’s suffering does in fact “diminish[]” me, he is obligated to take care not to rely upon me for matters he can handle himself. You decadent post-liberals get this 180-degrees backward: that any man has the “right” to call upon me because he suffers, and to demand recompense in proportion to his subjective estimation of his suffering. Heron dupes chumps like you into compliance with his solipsism in the name of “empathy,” and you fall for it. He can’t handle the basics any adult male should be able to handle. And why not? Not because he is infirm or oppressed, but because useful idiots nod gravely in White Guilt to such absurd extremes that they cannot join us in ridiculing his literally out-of-this-world logic. Sambo can’t be do anything except compose complaint poetry. Funcuckold is too timid to call his bluff, even the most preposterous bluff in the history of man: Because whitey’s on the moon.

        Because. Whitey. Is. On. The. Moon.

        Okay! Whatever you say, Mister Articulate Afro. Just don’t blame me, I didn’t vote for the moon shot! Whatever you do, don’t blame me, pleasepleaseplease …

        Nut the fuck up.

        Matt

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      • Actually, not in my imagination, but discerned by your very words (and I quote: “Stormfront: Special Victims Unit”), you are indeed butthurt by this parody.

        Which, for the record, was not my creative effort.

        “Butt hurt” gives it way too much credit. I was making a joke.

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      • Oh and King A. I’ll just assume your pompous bloviating was for the benefit of the local circle jerk.

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      • Oh and King A. I’ll just assume your pompous bloviating was for the benefit of the local circle jerk.

        For the record, YOUR attempt at moral high-horsity is what is pompous.

        And dissing King A’s wisdom as “bloviating”, well… you should feast on his every world… it’s your only shot at a real education.

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      • Hell, word… not world.

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      • JUST STOP PUSHING NIGGER-WORSHIP ON US FOR TWO SECONDS. TRY IT.

        RAUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHH

        “Being white means a day in, day out struggle to outsmart other white people.” — Christian Lander

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      • When Apollo 11 was being prepped for launch, Rev. Ralph Abernathy led a march to Houston’s command center demanding the launch and the space program be canceled to spend the money on … Black Empowerment. Or something. The head of NASA groveled and such, but would not cancel the the thing. Money is funny, the stuff you spend on a Black woman with 15 kids screeching “Who’s gonna take care my kids, someone’s gotta pay!” is not available for spending on a space program. Or roads. Or scientific edge.

        You can have welfare for the Mexodus and Black ghetto having kids at 15. Or a Space Program. Choose.

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      • Thanks for the info, whiskey.
        One can’t stop being surprised with niggers’ level of savagery.

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      • Nice story, but that has nothing to with NASA’s shrinking budget.

        In 1966, when we were focused funding a moon landing, NASA commanded only 4.4% of the federal budget. It was significant, but not budget busting. Yet even that low level of funding went away with the Cold War.

        The reason being, White America and their elected representatives don’t actually give a damn about about public, non-defense, scientific research. Sure they look fondly upon the moon landing, but they don’t care or realize NASA’s budget is currently half a percent. Worse, they think manned missions are too dangerous and unmanned missions are boring and useless.

        That’s why every year, Congress allots fewer dollars to NASA. The only minorities NASA has to “grovel” to are Congressional appropriation committees. This has been ongoing for DECADES. The money is not simply being shunted into TANF or welfare, it’s going into defense or discretionary budgets.

        Cutting welfare, while positive, won’t increase public scientific research unless it’s slated for “national security”. Beyond a few “nerds”, taxpayers don’t care. Defense? Sure. Space probes? Noooope.

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      • It doesn’t help that NASA, and especially the Shuttle program, became part of the spoils system, more concerned about spreading their budget throughout as many Congressional districts as possible than about space exploration. If they were sending people to Mars, which they could be doing by now on a fraction of the budget they already had, maybe Americans would be excited enough about it to demand funding for them.

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    • The way I look at it, unless one voiced an equal screed of indignation at Gil Scott Heron’s racism in his original “poem”, then one has little right to whine about this parody.

      That is, if one wishes to retain one’s moral credibility.

      But if you’re just another lefty SWPL cuckold fetishist or some black now crying because YOUR ox is getting gored, well… then just STFU.

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    • Masterpiece, Not-Heron. Instant classic.

      A rat bit Gil’s sister’s face! It done swole up! Cancel the Apollo Mission!

      (And whitey’s on the coon.)

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    • Honestly, this is the funniest goddamn thing I’ve read in months. Someone meme this thing all over the internet. Sambo on teh dole!!!

      Btw, Jim from Huckleberry Finn, I mean Al Sharpton, excuse me, officially looks like Skeletor

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  7. But I have a simpler answer: women moan and gasp and shriek to induce orgasm in themselves, and in their lovers.

    But this still begs the question why does this induce orgasm in both partners?

    Here is why: cries and moans turn us on because it is submissive. A squealing woman beneath us is like a dog with a squeaking soft toy. Each squeak excites the dog more and gets it drooling; it is the sound of helpless prey. And it is the sound of a subdued, helpless woman. This turns her on as much as us.

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  8. My mom always told me that she considered it her responsibility to not get fat on my dad, because that’s not what he married. “Besides, how would that look for him to go to a business dinner with me looking like that?” My feminist friends think it’s the most horrific thing in the world. Personally, I agree with her (and she has been married to my alpha of a father for 33 years, so I figure she’s doing something right).

    Oh, and moaning during sex to bring him to orgasm? Absolutely true. A lot of men can’t really tell when a girl comes, so noise is a pretty good way of indicating that. Probably developed because of that, instead of some kind of inherent sluttishness in women.

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  9. someone had to bring this up.
    Jack in the Box is blackmailed by his bitch wife. Guess living w/ a millionaire clown is not enough for her.

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    • Ronald McDonald is alpha.

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      • So, this ‘Bozo’… what was he? Like… a clown?

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      • Hell no he isn’t. This is what happens to bitches who step to The Burger King A. They get got.

        With whitey on the moon.

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      • http://www.tnellen.com/cybereng/poetry/poems/congo.html

        A roaring, epic, rag-time tune
        From the mouth of the Congo
        To the Mountains of the Moon.
        Death is an Elephant,
        Torch-eyed and horrioble,
        Foam-flanked and terrible.
        Boom, steal the pygmies,
        Boom, kill the Arabs,
        Boom, kill the white men,
        Like the wind
        Hoo, Hoo, Hoo.

        […]

        II. Their Irrepressible High Spirits
        Wild crap-shooters with a whoop and a call
        Danced the juba in their gambling-hall
        And laughed fit to kill, and shook the town,
        And guyed the policemen and laughed them
        down
        With a boomlay, boomlay, boomlay,
        Boom….

        THEN
        I SAW THE CONGO, CREEPING THROUGH

        THE BLACK,
        CUTTING THROUGH THE JUNGLE WITH A
        GOLDEN TRACK.

        A Negro fairyland swung into view,
        A minstrel river

        Where dreams come true.

        Sambo on teh dole,
        The sound of shattering Corona bottles coming ever near one’s window.

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  10. When the english first came to australia, they were horrified to discover the indigenous australians having huge orgies. What would happen is that everyone would fuck everyone, and the children would be raised collectively. Although orgies and collective child-raising don’t occur today, we still see in the pre-agricultural races (blacks, mainly) much, much higher rates of men not supporting their children, much greater rates of infidelity, and a much greater number of total sexual partners compared to agricultural races (asians and europeans). This distinction is important.

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  11. http://www.epjournal.net/wp-content/uploads/EP10611616.pdf
    From the epjournal review of Sex at Dusk at page 6.

    The following paragraph from Dusk summarizes the prescriptive agenda Saxon distills from Sex at Dawn:

    “Their argument is one for the equalization of male access to women and the
    removal of conscious female mate choices, therefore ending the sexual rejection experienced by most males. In complete contrast, women at no point are argued as all being equally attractive to men, and the authors‘ discussion of women‘s bodies and sexual signals strongly suggests that they do recognize that men have quite strong mate preferences for young, fertile, and attractive women. The Sex at Dawn argument is about men of all ages and ranges of attractiveness getting access to the most desirable female bodies, i.e., that the sexes are equal but one sex is more equal than the other (p. 287).”

    In this analysis, Sex at Dawn has been caught with its ideological pants down. ― Rather than a plausible potential explanation of our evolution, Sex at Dawn reveals itself as a contemporary middle-class, child-free, sex-obsessed, male fantasy projected back onto prehistory (p. 209). ―The shiny, superficially egalitarian wrapping of shared sex‘…makes it no less of a male fantasy (p. 201).

    Psychological ploys indeed.

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  12. “diseased dirigible.”

    Classic.

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  13. Great post, probably didn’t get the # of reads it deserves (as evidenced by the low # of comments) because of its length and the amount of quotes that can be seen from superficial inspection. Here’s my contribution:

    Circumcision, Penile Subscision = Sexual desire control.

    FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_subincision

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  14. I’m not convinced that homie is a jerk merely based on the fact that he threw a party at some place he wasn’t supposed to that someone happened to OD at.

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  15. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2196784/Seal-claims-Heidi-Klum-began-affair-bodyguard-BEFORE-separated-earlier-year.html

    Why am I not angry when a mudshark cheats on a nigger?
    But this seal/heidi klum story is fucked up. Absolutely no one wins.

    Seal is now not only an ugly nigger, but a cuckold too.
    Heidi is with a tattoed alpha bodyguard who’s gonna dump her/cheat on her when she will dig a little bit more through the wall.
    And the alpha bodyguard is not exactly an alpha because he is settling for the premenopausal sloppy seconds of a nigger and has to care for his 3 mini-groïd spawn.

    Absolutely fucked up.

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    • Talk about ‘damaged goods’… she’s the poster child.

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    • She certainly has a type she likes.

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      • Tall with muscles on?

        All chicks like that type. But considering her age and spawn luggage, she could only pull that off because of money.
        Under normal conditions, a hunky alpha would perhaps bang her, but would probably not consider settling down.

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    • Heidi got bored with having it all and wanted to ger creampied by some strange… Seal was too much of a good man and father, so screw him, eh Heidi? Sorry, dear, your hot new beau is just a pool boy getting some MILF action ansd won’t be around for ever. Isn’t ruining your family and their lives just peachy?

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  16. OT – Setting aside Anon’s racism (which I abhor)…does anyone here agree that the choice to re-elect Obama is largely a defacto referendum, by proxy, on affirmative action?

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    • Not that I participate in the democratic process, but I think an O reelection is merely a reflection of the first O election… it’s not whites voicing approval of affirmative action… it’s merely proof that the erstwhile majority’s dispossession is now writ large and in stone.

      There’s a slight chance this country might see another Republican president in the near future… but it will be the last one… and what does it matter, when both parties are bought and paid for, and pretty much dance to the same fiddler on the roof?

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      • Nope. We’re in the middle of an epic fever and you’re having fever dreams.

        Nobody is coming to save us. But there will be an opportunity to save ourselves.

        Defeatism is passivity is submission is womanly. It is unbecoming a man who knows the score. We will fight to the last, we will make our stand here. There is nowhere to retreat. (Canada? New Zealand? The Republic of Texas? No.) Like Caesar at Pharsalus, men fight best when there is no possibility to flee. Win or die.

        Matt

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      • I’m looking forward to the fight… all I said is, I don’t vote.

        A man can read the writing on the wall and admit to the coming twilight, yet steel his nerve and sinew for the fray nonetheless.

        Think Teja in A Struggle For Rome.

        Procopius relates his stand as well in History Of The Wars, Books VI & VII, upon which the aforementioned historical novel was based.

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      • Your mock-heroics are meaningless. Lift your head from the classics and breathe the stifling atmosphere of Realpolitik, where we lost a long time ago — largely due to moralizing, philo-semitic conservatives like yourself.

        ‘Defeatism’, ‘passivity’, ‘submission’ — arrogant prick shaming language. Ever read the DoD’s review of current crowd control weapons tech? how undefeated will you be when they blast you with MASER?

        Greg Eliot is exactly right: Romney is the last white standing. He will probably lose, and that will be the end of it.

        Now shut the fuck up. This isn’t Pharsalus. We aren’t Romans. There is no Caesar coming to put the reins on the most degenerate empire in world history: nor would it even be possible.

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    • You can’t set aside racism.
      Racism will set you aside when your people become a minority facing all sorts of r-selected barbarians.

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  17. Inner Game Crisis

    I can’t stand the small (non-philosophical) minds commenting here or being part of my physical social environment. With little minds, philosophy is input but the framework does not expand. Instead the philosophy is collapsed by projection into dogma.

    @brett The distinction is noted.

    @enicar666 Yes, white men have been talked out of being civilized. The garbage is being supported. Let nature take out the trash, not that I will survive but I will be able to live briefly, if you know what I mean.

    Great three-part post. The last part hits me, about criminal garbage getting the quality women. ‘Quality’: there is a sick joke by evolution.

    I am having an inner game crisis. I almost got into two fights last night. I did not immediately walk away, but I did walk away. First guy was tatooed, silver rings Napolean complex white guy looked like he just got out of jail and had no qualms about going back in. I detected no mental prowess beyond the feral or perhaps savage. I got up against two women in a circle group, not pushy, not shy, minor touching that I didn’t even think about. I seemed to be having chemistry with the one that I told was beautiful after the other one put me on the spot to agree that she was. I was getting a beautiful smile and eye contact. Convict guy interrupts, puts hand on my shoulder and tells me I can’t touch (her/them?). I questioned, not his girlfriend I think. He seemed to claim the whole group. I am not even sure he was with group as they ignored the whole incident that unfolded and turned out to be postering since I walked away. This guy I would expect to pull a knife. Cops are always outside the bars and not worth it for a chick that is not mine to defend. Yes, I failed the SMV test. Never been arrested.

    Then a married guy seems to have smacked his wife’s drink at me. My shirt got a little wet. I slowly, with composure, assessed the situation and approached the couple for an explaination. Married guy was a dick who thought I was hitting on his wife. I never talked to her. I never stared at her. I looked past them to survey the club. They were together sometimes humping. There is no rational reason for him to think I could take his loving wife right in front of his face. Could only have been a feral display for her benefit. I knocked away a push attempt, arm block. I got bouncer and of course he went with the married man ‘protecting’ his wife. I am not fighting over a woman who is married and maybe has children. Bouncer decided I should leave after I smiled at his decision and just stood back in my original place. As I left he said I could fight if I wanted. Really?

    To be civilized is to not fight over women like played pack animals but to freely socialize with reason and respect. The manosphere is in written language and we use reason, even to express and address our instinctual urges. I think fighting to protect a woman after she speaks for herself or is in some actual danger is laudable.

    So I am struggling in my inner game right now. I think I have a thick enough skin for the comments to come. Maybe I will learn something about myself or about others. So do I become the asshole? Would I loose what I think is superior character and wisdom that has little applicabililty until there is a major structural change in society? Are we to be philosopher-assholes if we can’t be philosopher-kings of a free citizenry?

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  18. GLPiggy has it right: “it’s a lot easier to say “fuck it all” to the mother of your children when she’s bloated up into a disgusting fat sow.” than put up with their man-abuse today… keep it skinny/hot, at the very least, gals!

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  20. Moody Blues bump. Nice.

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  21. o/t, but how does game fit with the medieval cult of “courtly love”, when males declared their service and adoration of (sometimes unattainable – i.e. married to some duke or monarch) women ? Was Walter Raleigh a beta ? Were these guys ‘beta orbiters’? Don’t get the impression they were. Yet they were the ultimate pedestalisers.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courtly_love

    “Your servant am I
    And will humbly remain
    Just heed this plea my love
    On bended knee my love
    I pledge myself to Lady Jane”

    (lyrics for illustration only)

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    • It’s not about what you say It’s the way you say it. Reciting poetry with a confident demeanor and alpha body language is not the same as doing it while being fidgety and supplicating.
      And no one said that these orbiters didn’t build attraction first. Most of the courtiers who win the favours of kings and queens tend to be dark triad cocky funny assholes.
      A romantic poem would then only be a comfort building step or romantic connection in the seduction process.

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    • Men in iron suits, wielding fierce lances and swords, whilst riding giant steeds can afford to recite the occasional fey doggerel.

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    • Those knights were professional killers who had been trained for combat since birth. They could get away with it. Also, beta-provider game was not without merit back then or during any time when women needed a man’s commitment to survive and prosper.

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    • Have you read Roosh? Not all women are like American women – even in the present day. That goes double for the distant past. Certain attributes change over time, others have remained unchanged for thousands of years.
      I suspect that poets were the rappers and singers of their day. The only means of wide dissemination of material was print – and poetry beats lyrics in written form.
      Also, we’re living hundreds of years after the fact. Those times have been romanticized – especially in Victorian days. Sir Walter was probably getting a little (or a lot) on the side, and had no moral problem with prostitutes. He would likely pimp-slap Lady Jane if she crossed him.

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    • Courtly romance was the product of a time in which violent, often deadly competitions between men determined status. It was partly a way for men to show that they didn’t intend to, say, kidnap a woman and kill all of her male relatives. It allowed knights to make socially acceptable passes on noblewomen. In a time when strategic marriages based on class were the norm, courtly romance was, in part, a deceptive power play.

      It was bound up with an code of courtly ritual that limited the knight’s actions. He (nominally) surrenders some freedom to slaughter, rape, and pillage at will, in return for access to civilized or Christian institutions, i.e. more power and wealth.

      In the 13th-century Nibelungenlied, German babe Kriemhild falls for alpha Siegfried, who nominally serves her brothers in the name of courtly love, but actually surpasses them in strength and cunning. The conflict between Siegfried’s primal strength and the hypocritical demands of courtly submission leads to hypocrisy, betrayal, and chaos.

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  22. “Interestingly, we may be evolving *away* again from monogamy and back to our slutty forager roots, thanks to the pathologically altruistic largesse of the mighty West encouraging women to favor the alpha seed capture strategy over the beta provider capture strategy.”

    It doesn’t make much sense why there would be more promiscuity among those who live hand-to-mouth than those who can create agricultural surplus.
    The sex at dawn guy keeps using the bonobo practices, even though they are a species with plenty of food and no great competition like the gorillas are to the chimps on the other bank of the river.

    Someone posted the epjournal review above, the same reviewer was one of the authors of the arranged-marriage practices in hunter-gatherer socieites.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0019066#abstract0

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  23. I just watched this thing on the Dark Ages, and the Vikings were worse than niggers when it comes to rape, murder, looting…

    and the Barbarians?

    well, they acted just like barbarians.

    My point is, when it comes to acting like niggers, white people have the world record for that too.

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    • The difference is blacks act like that NOW, in modernity. The effectiveness of the Vikings was largely enabled by their technological capabilities (best ships in the world) and their guerrilla tactics combined with a fervent adherence to their religion.

      Can you imagine blacks successfully raiding civilized Europe? They hadn’t even developed the wheel when whitey stumbled upon them. Blacks would still be wallowing in primitive savagery had they been left to their own devices.

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      • Even when discussing your history of bloodthirsty savagery, you can’t resist taking shots at blacks.

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      • Are you kidding me? Thwack does his normal anti-white race-baiting schtick and all you can do is deride the white defender?

        Are you black? If so, never mind… it only makes sense that you stick with your kind, right or wrong. But then don’t begrudge that same loyalty in others… especially when they’re actually right.

        If you’re not black, well… never mind again… the SWPL useful idiot cuckold fetishists on this site have already been pwned ten times over, so just another sock puppet doesn’t make the brigade any more formidable.

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      • http://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2012/04/knoxville-horror-crime-and-cover-up.html

        I’ve read a lot of history, and I never came across anything like that. (Anecdotes in Josephus, and from the Mongol invasion of India, come quite close.)

        I have a ssssneeeaking suspicion this notion of Vikings and Goths as pre-medieval white niggers is verkochte bull to cover up the failure of negro integration to civil society.

        But, hey, it isn’t like anyone specific “owns the media” and produces this stuff to deliberately mislead people about the nature of their own society. No way.

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      • I have a ssssneeeaking suspicion this notion of Vikings and Goths as pre-medieval white niggers is verkochte bull to cover up the failure of negro integration to civil society.

        Cue John Candy in Stripes:

        Ox: “You may have noticed, I have a weight problem.”

        Group: “Naaaaw!”

        Ox (sheepishly): ‘Yeah… yeah, I do.”

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      • In the same manner, they used to teach that Columbus was an intrepid explorer… but now, he and his crew were rank white genocidists and spreaders of syphilis.

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    • Let’s be fair, now…

      Back then, we were starved for higher culture and… uh… just went out looking for, like… poems and stuff.

      Sorry if we broke anything.

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  24. when civilization collapses and disappears, so do all the degenerates and the non-productive

    Is there any case of at least one moderately-sized civilization collapsing from internal causes without some sort of foreign invasion?

    It will take one or two generations for America to have Brazil’s demographics of today… Since Brazil hasn’t “formaly” collapsed, that is time enough for me to die from old age without seeing the Fall of the American Republic.

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  25. “You heard it here first.”
    Those small genial things are why i like reading this so much.

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  26. Northman
    The difference is blacks act like that NOW, in modernity. The effectiveness of the Vikings was largely enabled by their technological capabilities (best ships in the world) and their guerrilla tactics combined with a fervent adherence to their religion.
    ————————————————————————————————-

    So if a bunch of niggers decked out like navy SEALs landing in helicopters…

    burn down your house, rape your daughter, shoot your dog…

    they become worthy of respect and praise?

    The Vikings were criminals of the worst kind, why can’t you admit that?

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  27. I think the Vikings were good fighters because they were strong from rowing so much. They could probably do with one hand, what it took two hands for most men to do; such as throw a mofo against a brick wall. Or strangle a person with one hand, while using the other hand to stab or cut another guys head off.

    Rowing will rip you up quick. Stomach, arms, back…

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  28. “I argued similarly to Sex at Dusk (royalties, please?) that the existence of male jealousy, possibly the most powerful emotion in the known universe after the feeling of bliss that accompanies a strong bowel movement, is alone enough to disprove the polyamorists’ contention that humans are wired for wild group sex, ”

    Broski, not to undercut you, but David Buss has been writing almost exclusively about jealousy for nearly two decades.

    Check out his student faculty: 90% hot girls ‘researching’ sexy matters under the tutelage of their ev-psych guru.

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