Heartiste’s First Law Of Fatherhood

Men have a lot to say about fatherhood and imparting the values and knowledge that will assist sons (and daughters) in navigating a rapidly decaying culture.

Reader AAB writes:

The problem with fathers not teaching their sons about masculinity is that those sons grow up to become emasculated men, then fathers. A few generations down the line, your entire male population has been raised entirely by women (whilst the emasculated fathers were at work), and you end up like Japan, full of Hikkomori (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori), Grass Eaters, and Incest (http://seedofjapheth.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/japanese-incest/).

In a similar vein, anon writes:

The problem is that game has radically changed in the last 50 years. Your father’s info is obsolete in the bloody pulp that cultural marxism has left of our culture. Modern young women are LOL pathological narcissists who are nearly impossible to talk to without inducing a headache (not the case 50 years ago), so Pa isn’t going to provide the knowledge to work with them. This site is a “how to” for MODERN women with their pathologies.

To quote a british 13 year old in a sexting article yesterday “When you grew up you asked a girl to kiss, today you ask them for sex.”

John O’Sullivan, a former National Review editor, has a First Law which states that:

Any institution not explicitly conservative will become liberal with the passage of time.

Sounds about right. I think the same formulation can apply to fathers and sons and the active sexual market.

Heartiste Maxim #70: Any son not explicitly taught about the ways of women by an experienced father will become more beta under the influence of his mother.

Corollary to Maxim #70: A society of ascendent female academic, workforce, political and family influence necessarily emasculates its sons and masculinizes its daughters.

The urge to pedestalize women seems to be innate in many men, and the absence of strong fatherly guidance away from such sappy, self-defeating thinking is a luxury only a few dark triad demonic spawns of single moms can tolerate without suffering total emotional castration. A father who neglects his duty to teach his son all he knows of women — the good the bad and the hypergamous — or who teaches him the wrong lessons, or who leaves the teaching of such valuable lessons to the mother, is a tragic participant in the slow but steady betatization of his son. Don’t be that father.





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  1. My dad is a complete and utter beta. A couple bad breakups and i discover this webisite. Now i see how he acts around his wife (his second wife) and it makes me want to puke.

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

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      follow the money people

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      and beatrice
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      and honor their husbandz and love and sevre thim
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      and doesuled themz
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      temptreess is sirenc, crice, eve, jezebeebelz

      and so my sons
      turn toward your true fatherz
      it is not too late
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      nd come follow da GBFM

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      • Still trying to translate “ebenrkekeifieirs”.

        Gonna hafta mull that one over for a while…

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      • I’m fluent in GBFM. It’s “Bernankifiers”

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      • on December 14, 2012 at 1:53 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        oh stewardess, i speak jive: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0j2dVuhr6s

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      • on December 14, 2012 at 1:57 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i spak gbfm lozooozl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVJPB3W54Tc

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      • on December 13, 2012 at 6:29 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        lzozlzlz bernakifierz zlzoozzozobeenrka bernankified zlozozz

        hasn’t you evere dated a benernankiffied chcick who was deoeusled through her buttholelzozlzl in a sceteirve taping of bucttchetxt by rheyem siwth? lzozolzl

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      • Okay – gotcha.

        My experience would be more “Greenspanified” – it looks like Bernanke was sworn in on February 1, 2006, and by that point I was well aware that I could never again get seriously involved with a libtarded chick.

        I’ve lived in college towns my entire life, so I know the type. Two really ugly relationships that I can remember were with a Muslim postdoc chick, just before 9-11 [holy cow was that one an eye-opener – I’ve never seen a look of hatred like I saw in her eyes when she opened up the door to her apartment on the evening of 9-11, screaming and cursing and practically assaulting me], and another was with a blue state libtarded grad student chick, who wore overalls to class – my God, that was an utterly evil witch – all that ever came out of her mouth was just standard-issue, doctrinaire, dark, black, nihilistic venom.

        [I remember one time when we were driving along in the car, and she was talking about her research project, and I asked if she were collecting data on race, and she said yes, and I asked whether she were also collecting data on IQ, and before she could answer, I interrupted her and said, “Although that’s essentially just the same thing as collecting data on race”, and she blew up and launched into a tirade on – well, on whatever it is that libtards bloviate about when they go into apoplectic mode – I didn’t really bother to listen to any of it.]

        I could go on and on in that vein, but by 2006, I no longer had any illusions about just how evil the Left really is.

        It’s been years now since I could even stand to break bread with those monsters.

        And if I knew any white people who voted for Obama, I’d never speak to them again.

        Literally.

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      • “…and by that point I was well aware that I could never again get seriously involved with a libtarded chick.”

        Shane: Seems like you have graduated with honors both from the school of hard knocks and bitter experience. I would add, however, that BOTH major American political parties have their fingers in the pie of destruction; despite the Republicans’ occasional appeal to Hot Dogs, Mom, and Apple Pie.

        “…jonah goldberg would be out playing lord of the flies, running around with no shirt on down K street, rockin’ out with his goldberg neocon cock (neocock) out, ducking into bars to ravage all that his rightfully his as an untamed beta-male neocon. lozlzlzl”
        — GBFM, from “Beta Maleness Is The Real Marriage Killer” 1/30/12

        We can see that Great Books reserves far more venom for the Neocon establishment than any other. Read his words well, and be wise.

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      • Welcome back, GBFM! It’s been a while since I’ve read matrix wisdom in the natural machine-code idioms. lollololzz

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      • on December 14, 2012 at 10:25 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i am with you, always

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 3:30 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      I’m posting this up top not as a reply, but as an addition because I want everyone to see it.

      My Baby Boomer father deliberately undermined my success with women out of jealousy and small-mindedness. We hear a lot about moms being envious of daughters and causing eating disorders. They do this because they see their looks and prospects fading and their daughters get sexual power over them.

      I think Boomers did this more than any generation because they couldn’t let go of their own youth and resented their kids. My theory is that a lot of us are here because our dads did the male version of the above: making us self-conscious about trivial bullshit and using these alleged “flaws” to claim “no one is ever gonna like you — you’re a loser.” I got this every night at dinner and I bet I’m not alone.

      I now look back at the quality of women I was getting in my old collection of pics and I’m like “WTF? I fucked that?!” Jealous Baby Boomer dads fucked us up and I think this is worth a post.

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      • Baby Boomers – I call them Generation Drugs – fucked up a lot of things.
        It’s perfectly normal for young people to rebel against their parents/elders to some extent or another, but the Baby Boomers weren’t satisfied with just any ole rebellion.
        They set out out to completely ANNIHILATE the world their parents and grandparents had built, and in this, they succeeded to a frightening extent.
        We’re paying the price.
        I’m grateful the 60’s only dealt me a glancing blow, but it still smarts purty goooooood…….

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      • I and my siblings are echo boomers but both my parents, old-fashioned Catholics, were born during WW2, so neither are Boomers themselves. My dad is a classic provider beta, but at least my parents didn’t get totally screwed up like their younger siblings.

        As far as Boomers go, sometimes I wonder if it was something in the water.

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      • Boomers’ parents did most of the annihilating. Boomers were just carrying on in their parents’ footsteps in being complete and utter fools.

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  2. More importantly, the father who doesn’t teach his son “the good the bad and the hypergamous” sets his son up to have his hard earned treasure, and children, stolen by the very woman his son falls in love with. A soul shattering experience. No loving father would leave that to chance, any more than NOT teaching a son that a stove is hot, or a rattlesnake if venomous.

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  3. “The problem is that game has radically changed in the last 50 years. Your father’s info is obsolete in the bloody pulp that cultural marxism has left of our culture.”

    Unfortunately, a lot of truth in this. But pedastelizing women didn’t work fifty years ago, and it still doesn’t. Despite the terrible changes of the last fifty (and especially twenty) years, older men could still impart a lot of wisdom to the younger set, if they would only BE HONEST. Interestingly, in my experience, actual old guys (over seventy or so) actually have better advice to offer than guys between 40 – 65. So kids, skip Dad, go straight to Grandpa. You might be surprised at the things he got up to…

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    • Whenever I’ve talked to any of my elders about women, dating, relationships, sex, etc. , they draw a complete and utter blank trying to relate to my experiences. It’s like we’re living not only on a different planet, but also in a parallel universe.
      Which stll baffles me, because while many things have certainly changed since the 1930’s/40’s/50’s, basic human nature has not……..

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  4. What does one teach daughters? I’m not meaning this as an attack. I’m genuinely curious how a red pill man who aspires to have a family deals with explaining hypergamy, the rationalization hamster, solipsism, and their consequences to a daughter.

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    • I had to have my first such talk with my five year old daughter over the summer when I saw her holding hands with a nine year old at a picnic. After recovering from my mini-heart attack, I further witnesses her leading him in a literal chase all over the park and hitting him in the chest to both of their delights! Now this boy was very sweet and walked several times with her to throw coins in a fountain and helped her make friends with a puppy, but I was in mama bear mode and after making it very clear she was not to hit him again, we had a talk afterwards about physical boundaries. I explained that she was only allowed to hug hello and goodbye, that there was to be no kissing (she’s VERY affectionate), and that if she was going to hold hands with him that she was not allowed to hold hands with any other boy. I recently read Jacquie’s (barefoot in a clearing) great post on how to handle some of these issues and I agree with her that you want to be the person they talk to about these things. I think the best way is to help them navigate their way instead of them getting messages from other sources. I suppose its like any other parenting issue. You deal with it as it comes up.

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      • Elizaveta Golovanova, Miss Russia 2012. Her motto is: “To live life so that there is no shame in father’s eyes and no tears in mother’s eyes!” I bet her father is a stand up fellow.

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      the job of the strong father was to keep buttcockerz away from his duaghter

      and teach her the shame in following butt tinglzoozlozlzoz and gina titngalaozz

      over honor god faith family

      dids is why dey got rid of th fatherz

      so dey could buttccok and deosul the owmenz and coneevrte them into vehcileds of welth disstrubition tranferring welath form good honoroobrla menz to da butccokeekrzozolzozzl

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      • Love you bro (no homo).

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      • on December 13, 2012 at 5:55 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        i luvs u too bro, though not in a buttehxtcual waz zlozozlzlz

        not dat ders anyting wornd wit dat (as long as u don’t secteley tape it like rhymse iwth lzolzlzozlzoz)

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      • “buttehxtcual”

        LOL’ed.

        Man, I’m still laughing.

        I can get a harder laugh out of reading this blog for about 30 seconds than I can if I were to spend five straight years watching jewish “comedy” on television or in the movies.

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    • Through example. Make sure your daughter’s mother is a lady who isn’t hypergamous, a rationalization hamster, solipsistic, or a slut.

      You also have to treat her mother the way you want a man to treat your daughter one day. If you game her mother expect your daughter to be gamed as well.

      My dad has always been an involved loving father who always treated my mother with respect. My parents worked together to raise me and my brother focusing on the importance of hard work, education, health, and moral integrity.

      The example my dad has set for me in terms of how a relationship should work and how I should be treated has made me immune to game. The type of women gamers want will be turned off by the negs and maltreatment. She has nothing to prove and is not looking for approval by a man by sleeping with him.

      I also have my mother to thank for instilling the quintessential values of a true woman: chastity, femininity, beauty, intelligence, and the ability to nurture and care for others, while not being needy or desperate.

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    • Specifically, my dad used to use my mom, my grandma, my aunts, and my brother’s bitchy girlfriends of examples of how not to treat a man. Took me out for coffee once a week back in high school and we’d sit there for an hour or two and talk. Really helped. Girls tend to hate their mothers once puberty starts, and that’s the most important time for a father to be there. Trust me, there’s nothing more miserable as a teenage girl than dealing with your mom. A girl needs a strong male presence in her father to balance all of that out.

      More generally, a woman needs a strong father if she’s got any chance of growing up to be a good woman. She needs her dad around to praise her when she’s doing good, discipline her when she’s screwing up, talk to her about sex and boys and self-respect, make her earn money/presents, don’t let her read those fucking tween romance novels, be there when she needs to cry or have a problem fixed, tell her she’s not wearing that out of your house, scare her male friends and potential dates straight about the consequences of fucking her. Don’t abandon her in middle school. Learn what she lies to you about (we all lie) and don’t let her get away with the really bad stuff. Don’t kill her dreams or squash her goals (that’ll only make her hate you), but make she understands that her actions have consequences, and what those consequences are. You gotta game her too, in a non-sexual sense of it – understand what those little female instincts are telling her to do, and snap her out of the more insane behaviors early. And most importantly, set a good example in regards to how the marital relations work in her own family.

      tl;dr? If you want your daughter to end up with a decent man in a stable LTR or marriage later on, you have to be the kind of man you’d want her to marry. If you’re beta with your wife, your little girl is going to grow up with the same kind of princess entitlement complex.

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      • That’s gold, Cynthia! You have said in a scant three paragraphs what James Dobson, William Bennett, and other associated gasbags state in whole books of 267 pages and $24.95.

        I may have to clip and paste this one, and distribute it to struggling fathers whose daughters are approaching young womanhood.

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      • Seconded. I’d also like to add that this is extremely important not just to raise the chances of things going well, but keep her stable when things go wrong.

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  5. Word.

    The single greatest sin to lay at the feet of feminism is the estrangement of fathers from sons in their attempt to dismantle the Patriarchy. That doesn’t even mean that Dad is on the other side of the country anymore — there is estrangement even within a nuclear family as the mother tries to intervene in the delicate process of bringing a boy into manhood.

    Mothers who think they have a “better way” to teach a boy how to be a man than the men in his life are naively pretentious. When you try to make a boy “sensitive”, and don’t use the aggression and violence that Nature has naturally gifted to him as his masculine birthright, then you get frustrated, disrespectful boy-men who either totally Beta-out or end up saying “fuck it” and permanently joining the Puerarchy.

    It takes a man to turn a boy into a man. Never forget it. And even a poor Betacized dad is better than no dad, and far better than just a mom.

    Still, there are a lot of young men out there who do have Beta dads. This Christmas, honor your esteemed ancestors and revere the spirit of fatherhood by introducing that Beta dad to the Manosphere. But don’t mention it to your mom. Buy him a copy of MMSL or Bang or just invite him to go work out . . . but if we’re going to go to all the trouble of teaching our sons Game, then it might be fun to introduce our dads to it too. Who knows? We might just get a revolt of the Betas going.

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  6. It’s hard to verbalise this stuff… my current plan is to provide both son and daughter a set of essential books, for men and women, game stuff, etc, and they each have to read both sets, to see things from the other perspective….anyone got an essential reading list for Game? Canonical classics, not the latest hot thing… Also books for women, other than The Rules…

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  7. The law you cite is Robert Conquest’s, not John O’Sullivan’s.

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 6:32 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

      You and Heartiste are both wrong. Here is the actual Law:

      “All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing.”

      And here is O’Sullivan’s article, which help explain your confusion:

      “That is explained by O’Sullivan’s First Law: All organizations that are not actually right-wing will over time become left-wing. I cite as supporting evidence the ACLU, the Ford Foundation, and the Episcopal Church. The reason is, of course, that people who staff such bodies tend to be the sort who don’t like private profit, business, making money, the current organization of society, and, by extension, the Western world. At which point Michels’s Iron Law of Oligarchy takes over — and the rest follows.

      Is there any law which enables us to predict the behavior of right-wing organizations? As it happens, there is: Conquest’s Second Law (formulated by the Sovietologist Robert Conquest):

      The behavior of an organization can best be predicted by assuming it to be controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies. Examples: virtually any conservative party anywhere, the Ronald Lauder for Mayor campaign, and the British secret service. That last example is, however, flawed, since the British secret service actually was controlled by a secret cabal of its enemies in the form of Kim Philby, Anthony Blunt, et al. In which case, Conquest’s Law should have operated to make M1-6 a crack anti-Soviet intelligence service of James Bond proportions. But these are deep waters.”

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      • Both you and O’Sullivan are confused. Robert Conquest’s three laws are reproduced here:

        http://www.isegoria.net/2008/07/robert-conquests-three-laws-of-politics/

        and are:

        1. Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.
        2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
        3. The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.

        [Heartiste: Jesus folks, I obviously captured the spirit of the law. Nerdout!]

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  8. Heartiste Maxim #70: Any son not explicitly taught about the ways of women by an experienced father will become more beta under the influence of his mother.

    Does black culture contradict this? (where kids are raised by mothers, but end up primarily alpha)

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    • lol, ignorant yes. Alpha no.

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    • Great point by Scharfy that I’d love to see addressed by CH. How do you explain an entire generation of black men–raised mostly (70%) by women–that are remarkably degenerate yet hardly beta?

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      • How do you explain an entire generation of black men–raised mostly (70%) by women–that are remarkably degenerate yet hardly beta?
        ———————————–
        perhaps you should reconsider the definition of the word “alpha?”

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      • Look at the ‘Alpha Game – The Socio-Sexual Hierarchy’ blog for a more accurate, true-to-life definition of all those Greek letter types.
        Many Black guys aren’t actually raised by their mothers, they are raised by their ‘hood/gang.
        Live fast, die young, fuck as much as you can, starting at 11, ’cause you’ll be dead by 27.
        Which, come to think of it, actually doesn’t sound so bad.
        Especially not if you know what comes after 30.

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      • Because, contrary to the stated post here, parenting doesn’t actually influence how children turn out. As long as some modicum of care is provided, parenting really doesn’t do much.

        I.e., it’s all rubbish.

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      • The corollary to the corollary to maxim #70. though raised mostly be women, the general alpha cultural influence of the black male (hard alpha, toughness, athleticism, gang, violence, hard-knock upbringing) is a much stronger influence than that of a strong mother. tupac and 50 had to shoot em up and hold their own before they could make it back into the house to pedestalize dear mama

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      • and for obama when he reads this.. not all black guys….

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      • Obama was raised by a white mother who spent the rest of her life idolizing the third-world, anti-colonist Kenyan who abandoned her after only a few years, and then by a set of white grandparents who sent him to elite schools and sought out Marxist tutors for him. Far, far, far from stereotypical black culture. For what that’s worth.

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      • It seems being alpha in the most primal sense and being alpha in the most effective sense are two different things. Maybe short term and long term are more appropriate rather than primal and effective?

        It just stands to reason that the thuggish, violent behavior is not as alpha as it seems at first glance. If you take all your bullets and shoot them at the first guy coming after you, you look pretty bad-ass. I mean, you made him look like a freakin’ slice of swiss cheese, dude. Oh, wait… there’s 50 more dudes coming and you don’t have any more bullets. Shit.

        That’s how I equate the supposed alpha behavior of the mindlessly violent and hopelessly ignorant. You live a thugged-up alpha life with bitches and cars and gold and cash- and you die at 22. So who’s the real alpha? And is the behavior really alpha after all?

        And how do you explain the reactions of those supposed alphas when confronted with a real alpha who doesn’t fear them or their strutting?

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    • You watch too much TV.

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    • I think that Maxim applies primarily to Homo-sapien, so there is no contradiction here.

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  9. on December 13, 2012 at 2:49 pm Lucky White Male

    Great stuff.

    To rule the world you need to destroy the intact family, meaning patriarchy. Because, as Plato observed, the family is the natural rival of the ruling elite.

    The goal is a small elite ruling dumbed down masses of slaves. A small elite of rich dynastic families and then everyone else.

    As you’ve shown with the Infowars Aaron Russo video, David Rockefeller funded feminism in America beginning in 1960’s.

    Who was an ideal American patriarch father?

    He could certainly be a scumbag, but consider Joseph P. Kennedy.

    Said a pal, “He bred his sons for power. The daughters were brought to church, but the sons he taught about marketplace, the real world.”

    An Alpha father with a fondness for the ladies- (what Alphas arent scumbags in some ways?) – with a bunch of Alpha sons.

    Jack Kennedy was a devastating Alpha. He also shared some dangerous views of his father early on. It was Jack who said, “you can easily see that Hitler was one of the most compelling political figures who ever lived.”

    Joe Kennedy was not a friend of the elite. He used them to further his own ambitions for his sons – worldly sons, and the seeds of his own new Gentile dynasty that looked less like lambs and more like future lions.

    Jack was assassinated, so was Bobby. Shortly before Teddy died a few years ago, he sent a handful of dirt from Jack’s grave to Shimon Peres, former prime minister of Israel, as a gift.

    Why would Teddy do that?

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      in classical society the king fought beside his men, and the men all got non-buttcocked wives and chidrlen, which other men could not buttcockz. this was called “honor”

      today, the fiat short, little buttcockers like tucker max rheymes iwth godlamn sax are funded to buttccok fother other menz wives while one class of men print fiat dolarrz and burden eberyone with debt, while the ture heroes jump on graneeagdes on foregin shores in foegeein warz, but the weekly standardth instead praises the buttcockerz and repeats ytucker mwax rhyems withgdolamn sax lies about his heieght zlzozolzlo

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  10. Eh I knew a guy who waited on Mila Kunis at a table 10 years ago. Said she looked like absolute shit to begin with and it was all makeup and TV lighting.

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    • The time has come for her to converge Meg reality with this one

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    • I saw David Hasselhoff when he was in his prime. He looked like death warmed over.

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      • 2 former ‘heart throbs’ who have NOT aged well:
        Mickey Rourke & Val Kilmer.
        Ugh.

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      • Mickey Rourke effed up his face with his boxing career. Complete and utter shame.

        I suppose your options are to age gracefully, hoping that a good lifestyle will work to your benefit or get nine kinds of plastic surgery and end up looking like a cross between a caricature of yourself and a cat. A poreless, racked cat.

        You can usually tell who’s living well and who’s still thinking they can eat, drink and drug like they want while on hold with their plastic surgeon’s receptionist.

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      • /in before a whole throng of German people come in screaming “how dare you!”

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  11. Teaching my 15-year old son is one of the key reasons why I read PUA blogs. I am determined to teach him to not make the same mistakes my dad and I made. Teenagers are thick skulled, and its amazing how persuasive societies faulty premises are, but I do my best to chip away at all the BS. I wish I could say that I was a better role model through his life, but I only got my head on straight two years ago after finally leaving a Batshit Crazy woman who had turned me in to the worst sort of beta-sized husband, and that was only after my sons mom cuckholded me before that. I am now having to draw on the poorly learned lessons of my teens and twenties where I did quite well because of ignorance, booze, and a perchance for adventure (I spent 12-years in Europe).

    I stick to the simple things right now…. head up, smile, approach, there are POF in the sea, how to deal with shit-tests, etc… hopefully it will stick.

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    • Well put, RH. I have both a teenage son and daughter, and shoulder the great responsibility of teaching both of them the realities of a world burdened by unleashed female nature. I have an innate tendency to pedestalize that I have worked hard these past few years to overcome – since the day I happened across this blog and the scales fell from my eyes.

      I know you are an avowed atheist, CH, but you none-the-less provide an invaluable service to Christian fathers by presenting the unvarnished – dare I say ‘naked’ – truth about female hypergamous nature.

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      • I think CH started out Christian, or has had some Christian background. He will come around again before he dies I guess.And you are right, most of us Christians have strong beta tendencies!

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  12. Isn’t this supposed to be a blog that understands HBD? Twin adoption studies show that there is no connection between parenting and how kids turn out.

    You don’t “teach” your kids anything unless you’re Amish or something and control all their communications with the outside world. They get their ideas through their predispositions and interactions with friends and the larger culture.

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    • Girls learn how to conduct themselves in relationships from the people around them. They absorb a lot more from their families than you seem to think, especially in regards to their fathers. That’s where the whole “daddy issues” thing comes from (which is very very true). It really does matter. You can either let the primary influence on your children be you or their school environment. The latter only supplants the former when parents don’t get involved.

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 4:46 pm Days of Broken Arrows

      Excellent point. I have proof. When my brothers and I were little, we’d tape ourselves rehearsing on instruments for school talent shows. There was also a lot of talk and bantering going on. Twenty years later I found the tapes. We are EXACTLY all the same, right down to the inflections of our speech, our tones of voice, speech patters and the roles we played then and now in life (one is the leader, one analytical, one comic). This was scary to hear in a way.

      I’m now convinced that we emerge fully formed and success or happiness is a matter of getting ourselves in the right situations with the right people — almost like a puzzle piece.

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    • The homeschooled daughter of my friend, who has been groomed to be a wife and mother, is a true lady. And is everything her parents hoped her to be. Parenting does influence how children turn out.

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  13. Maxim 70 is wrong, and I’m living proof.

    Dad’s got aloof alpha game. Never tried to please Mom in any way except by paying the mortgage. However, he said nothing to me about women, and still hasn’t — no advice whatsoever.

    On the other hand, Mom slipped the red pill down my throat when she told me women want to be dominated, teased, played with. That’s always stuck with me.

    I listened to Mom.

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    • You’re a statistical anomaly. And your socio-politico-economic beliefs suggest that you were dumb enough to shape them through other statistical anomalies, NAWALTS, and other various sophistries.

      I don’t blame you though. You people certainly serve some kind of purpose.

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    • My mother is eastern European, she actively encourages me to date multiple women. She gets very annoyed when I don’t do this. She wouldn’t be very happy if I came home with a Russian woman.

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  14. on December 13, 2012 at 3:01 pm Rock Throwing Peasant

    Very true. This is a topic I’ve worked on since my divorce. In a way, my sons will benefit from the divorce in that they won’t have a chance of reaching adulthood without a hefty dose of Red Pill. If I somehow expire, they have at least one uncle and a cousin who will reinforce the messages.

    For fathers, I developed a guide to develop your self. It’s not necessarily game-based (in fact, it’s Christian based), though it certainly incorporates a great deal of the wisdom of the game community. I don’t tread on Athol Kay’s ground (gaming your wife) and defer to him in that area. This guide is more a MGTOW style that can be incorporated into an active marriage. Take what you like, leave the rest. Here’s the link to the pdf:

    http://thejumpschool.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/rpr-patriarch-and-30-day-plan/exceprt-from-rpr/

    I’m also working specifically on the issue of raising boys. Currently, I’m deep in research mode, but I will have a good starter guide for new fathers/young sons (ages 1-10 or so). I will offer solid and practical ways to develop your sons mentally and help them prepare for and do better in school. Rather than pushing harder in areas that boys do not biologically develop (frontal lobe), I am looking to springboard from the strengths to make them stronger as you develop cross-section connections in the brain.

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  15. I guess I should emphasize why this is important. Heartiste, my friend, you are a fellow who loves truth. If you have read up on behavioral genetics, you know that the idea that our personalities are influenced by relationships with mom and dad is Freudian quackery, disproved by the same research methods you use to defend genetic race and sex differences.

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  16. One of the contradictions of feminism is the problem that (a) men are bad to women (b) men are bad due to socialization (c) women, as mothers and educators and increasingly as legislators, are responsible for socializing boys into men. Why are men bad? WOMEN RAISE THEM THAT WAY.

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  17. on December 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm Rock Throwing Peasant

    You don’t “teach” your kids anything unless you’re Amish or something and control all their communications with the outside world. They get their ideas through their predispositions and interactions with friends and the larger culture.

    What? We don’t control our kids, but we certainly teach them.

    Not sure what your point is or if there’s a miswording. Parents can’t teach their kids?

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    • on December 13, 2012 at 3:29 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      sure parents can try

      but the pop culture buttcockingz and deocnstructive daily assault on honor and the great bookz for men in all the popular and mdiea media also adveersely affects kidz

      couple this with the fact that the wife will go alaong with the buteocckserz and intities 80% of divrocesz and the kid will grow up with thecorprate state riataianlinz as his replace father

      and so you see that even if a man does ihis est, his wife, the state, the tearehcerz da meedia congolemeoereatse are all opposing his teahcingz

      they can take hiss chirrledrenz any time tehey wantz zlzlzol

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      • Some of you may laugh at this, but homeschooled kids are some of the smartest and most clued-in I’ve come across, at least in the US.
        Granted, many of them come from weirdly religious families, but they read, they can rite, they can rithmetic and ….drumroll….they can see through a lot of the mainstream pop culture bullshit the other kids just suck up as the Gospel.
        I did not go to school in the US (phew!), but judging by what I see and hear about public schools, and what they seem to be watching on TV/internet all day and night, you are practically OBLIGATED to do at least some homeschooling if you care even just a little.

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      • I’ve had exactly the same experience with people who were homeschooled. The ones I’ve known have been intelligent, thoughtful, poised, well-read and well-adjusted.

        You’re right about US public schools, too. Most of them are a horror show. At the very highly regarded Bay Area elementary school that I attended from K-3, one of my teachers told me that I would have to wait until the following year to learn about negative numbers, i.e., that there was no way not to purposely retard my progress to match what was expected of students in my age group. The fairly well-regarded middle school that I attended in rural South-Central Pennsylvania was an authoritarian nightmare. My parents were relieved that I transferred to a prep school in ninth grade, particularly after they heard reports that one of the science teachers in our district’s public high school refused to give out A’s as a matter of principle, regardless of the quality of his students’ work.

        I generally lean to the left politically, but I’m a very strong proponent of homeschooling, particularly for parents who can’t afford to enroll their children in private schools. Few parents have the wherewithal to do as bad a job on the socialization of their children as their school districts do as a matter of practice and policy.

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      • I don’t know… some of the craziest people I’ve ever met were homeschooled. My homeschool (female and male) friends back in middle school used to blow up rats with coke for fun. The homeschool kid who sat in front of me in Poli Sci back in college once refused to go on a field trip because he didn’t want to set foot inside “the den of Satan” (we were going to a mosque).

        But all that being said, I’ll probably be homeschooling mine some day. The system seems like it’s gotten a lot better in the last twenty years.

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      • I think the reason why many homeschooled kids come from the Evangelical Taliban side of things has to do with the fact that those are – so far – the people most likely to be very, very unhappy with what the mainstream school system provides.
        The more normal ones still think that ‘it’ll be ok’, but they’re waking up.
        Or so we hope.

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  18. “What? We don’t control our kids, but we certainly teach them.

    Not sure what your point is or if there’s a miswording. Parents can’t teach their kids?”

    Look up Judith Rich Harris’ book The Nurture Assumption or anything else that has been written about cross-adoption studies. The punchline is that adopted children have nothing in common with their adopted parents, but a lot in common with their biological parents. Identical twins put into different homes are just as similar to one another in personality as identical twins raised in the same home. Once again, effects of parenting are zero. No correlation between any trait a (non-biological) parent has and any trait the kid will have.

    [Heartiste: Let’s not get carried away with this genetic determinism angle. Look, I’m familiar with the twin studies, and in fact you won’t find a more anti-blank slatist than myself. I harp a lot on how personality and temperament have a large genetic component. But kids can be taught new things. Are books irrelevant because genes rule the mind? I’ve learned quite a lot from books. Parents are like mobile books. They can stuff useful information in a kid’s head. You may not think you’re making a difference in your son’s life, but a few months later he’ll regale one of his friends or a girl he likes with something his old man told him once. The influence is there, even if it’s hard to measure.]

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    • If parenting doesn’t matter much, then why is this generation screwed up compared to previous generations? Why are single moms toxic to kids? Yeah, certain traits are inherited, but one’s worldview isn’t.

      As for giving up on parenting because our culture is sick, well, grow a pair and raise your kids, anyway. Seriously, if you have children, and you are a Red Pill man or woman, take a stand against the prevailing culture. No, it won’t be easy and you may fail. Too bad, that’s what you signed up for when you had kids. They didn’t ask to get born into this mess.

      Some practical advice–get rid of your T.V. You’ll have better quality time with your family and you won’t have the equivalent of a brain-polluting sewer running through your home.

      Make whatever sacrifices you must to either homeschool or send the kids to a private school. Public school should be avoided at all costs. Some private schools, too.

      As a Red Pill man or woman, your kids need your guidance more than they need a big house, or new clothes, or the latest games, or cable T.V., etc. Many families think they need two incomes, but really, they could manage on one, or pay for private school, if they stopped following the false gods of materialism and vacuous entertainment.

      And if you don’t have kids, breathe a sigh of relief.

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      • “If parenting doesn’t matter much, then why is this generation screwed up compared to previous generations?”

        Are they?

        “Why are single moms toxic to kids?”

        Are they? What type of people tend to be single moms? And, what sort of genes are they passing on?

        “Yeah, certain traits are inherited, but one’s worldview isn’t.”

        Wrong.

        The first law of behavioral genetics: all human behavioral traits are heritable.

        “As for giving up on parenting because our culture is sick, well, grow a pair and raise your kids, anyway.”

        Good luck with that.

        “Some practical advice–get rid of your T.V. You’ll have better quality time with your family and you won’t have the equivalent of a brain-polluting sewer running through your home.”

        If that works for you.

        “Many families think they need two incomes, but really, they could manage on one, or pay for private school, if they stopped following the false gods of materialism and vacuous entertainment.”

        Good luck with that too…

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    • Thats one interpretation of the studies, but the gene-enviroment interaction is likely a bit more complex than that. Here some good reading:

      Parenting and its Effects on Children: On Reading and Misreading Behavior Genetics
      http://www.annualreviews.org/doi/full/10.1146/annurev.psych.51.1.1

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      • Primarily rubbish. Bottom line: you can learn nothing by comparing children with their biological parents.

        Even when you do control for heredity, other problems appear, such as child-to-parent effect (parental behavior influenced by children’s personalities).

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    • Sure, ideas can influence people. If you teach your kids HBD, game, or whatever, they’re obviously more likely to be exposed to it, and we can’t be influenced by ideas we never run into. If that’s the extent of your claim, no problem.

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      • Take my family. Six sets of cousins on my dad’s side. We’re all fairly similar in intelligence level, interests, behavioral tics, and the like. I can sit down with cousins I haven’t seen in years, and we’ll be finishing each other sentences within ten minutes. So, we’re all fairly alike. But, out of those sets of cousins, we all have wildly different sets of parents. Some of my cousins are drug addicts, some are languishing in nursing school when they should have been surgeons, some of them kill dogs for fun, some of them are doing exceptionally well in college and life. Exposure to ideas and morality is essential.

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      • “So, we’re all fairly alike. But, out of those sets of cousins, we all have wildly different sets of parents.”

        And hence, wildly different sets of DNA, at least with respects to certain key traits.

        Come on people, it’s called heredity for a reason…

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    • “Are books irrelevant because genes rule the mind? I’ve learned quite a lot from books. Parents are like mobile books. They can stuff useful information in a kid’s head. You may not think you’re making a difference in your son’s life, but a few months later he’ll regale one of his friends or a girl he likes with something his old man told him once. The influence is there, even if it’s hard to measure.”

      You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.

      Knowledge and skills can be imparted. However, parents cannot control when and how children use such information. That’s up the child you’ve got and the circumstances. I.e., skills is not the same as personality, which is what you’re really talking about here. Any apparent success is just luck…

      The myth of parental influence is something many even in the HBD community hold on to, apparently to be consistent with their right-wing views. Ironic than the very same logic that we use to substantiate group level differences seems to collapse when it comes to parenting.

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  19. I give my 8 year old son advice on girls……mostly picked up on here. He came home from school the other day and said, ” Dad, I did what you said, the girl cried, and the mom is mad and I think we might have to go to a conference in the office tomorrow.” lol

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  20. Bringing people to this decaying world is in itself cruel.
    You really think that things will change and that libruls will back off and that you will “secede”? LOL. In real life, everything points out to a mass bastardization of the ENTIRE WORLD, latino-arabo-africanization of large parts of Europe and America, and no more fucking OIL when the current youngsters start hitting retirement homes (including me).

    Poolside, spawnless fellows! I don’t want my grandkids to live in a hunting-gathering savage place. We’re the last people on Earth who are gonna enjoy the current average standard of living. The goal of any sensible man should be to make sure that his children have a better life than him. It’s not possible anymore. And when spirituality comes back to enforce common sense, it will be too late.

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    • Yes, oil and climate change are the real important issues.

      In fact, it’s liberals who’re trying to DO something about them.

      (Cue sound of Anon’s brain exploding from the cognitive dissonance.)

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      • All liberals are good at are making a big deal out of things that either don’t matter or over which we have no control (climate change), trying to right wrongs that don’t exist and thereby making things worse (feminism, affirmative action), making things worse in other ways (diversity and immigration) and overall adding layer upon layer of crippling bureaucracy.

        If it wasn’t for liberalism, we’d have colonies on Mars by now.

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      • I’ve often thought Jason, by himself, was setting back Science with his posts here.

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      • If it wasn’t for liberalism, half your children would be dead of contaminated food, and the Cuyahoga River would still be on fire.

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      • I wouldn’t consider the old Soviet Union and Communist China to exactly be paragons of conservatism.

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      • “If it wasn’t for liberalism, half your children would be dead of contaminated food, and the Cuyahoga River would still be on fire.”
        Citation needed

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      • Referring to pre-FDA and pre-EPA, respectively.

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      • It’s always easiest to be a victim. Libs are perpetual victims. Everything is someone else’s fault, everything is a zero-sum game, and the only reason they have it bad is because someone else has it good.

        If they weren’t so busy being victims, they’d have no excuses for why shit isn’t getting done.

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      • You and I live on different planets.

        Here in California, I’m surrounded by fellow liberals, and from the biggest captain of industry to the smallest hood rat … I don’t hear a single word of victimization. Seriously, people would just stare at you if you even suggested it. In fact, some of these liberals are evil motherfuckers DOING the victimizing. I’ve worked for a few.

        Most liberals in my life are honestly concerned about the theft of our commons by private interests, by corporations that are sociopathic in nature. And these liberals want to DO something about it.

        So please put down the broad brush before you hurt your back.

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      • No one wants to admit they are a victim, they only want to reap the benefits of victimhood.

        Personal anecdotes always sound good to the person quoting them. Go ask Pauline Kael how she feels about Richard Nixon’s win.

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      • so these liberals care about being VICTIMIZED by private interests and corporations?

        semantics. liberalism is based on victimization no matter how you slice it.

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      • Look up “Tragedy of the Commons” (it’s on Wikipedia) and report back what you’ve learned.

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    • What about four, five generations from now? A period of crisis ≠ the extinction of Western civilization. It may be reduced to embers but that will make the embers more crucial. Have fortitude.

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    • Anon
      In real life, everything points out to a mass bastardization of the ENTIRE WORLD, latino-arabo-africanization of large parts of Europe and America
      ————————————————————————-

      Shut up you pussy.

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  21. on December 13, 2012 at 3:43 pm Rock Throwing Peasant

    @The Butler,
    Ahhh, okay. I understand what you’re saying. I don’t agree or disagree at this point. More study and all that. I do understand that I could convince myself of my success, even though there may be a stronger biological component at work than I care to acknowledge.

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  22. My dad once gave me this advice:
    “all women are not special. you cannot treat all of them the same. some of them are just a lay.”

    so I don’t think that advice from the older generation is obsolete. some details have changed (texting, for example) – but the core concepts are still the same.

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  23. OT, re unrelated spawnage: 53% of US infants get WIC. http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/aboutwic/wicataglance.htm HT Captain Capitalism.

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  24. The knowledge my parents gave me would have been invaluable, had I been living in their formative years – the Great Depression and the Second World War. Take care of your education and career, and marriage will take care of itself. It was bad advice for me in the 1980s, and for today’s boys it is poison. Sadly, the best advice to give them today is: be poolside.

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  25. I also am seriously wondering if a lowered level of hormones and pheromones in men has something to do with the increased bitchiness of women, brought about perhaps by the same processes which are lowering our sperm counts.

    I have some Pherlure which I had bought a few years ago, but I haven’t been using it because I figured I needed to improve my game without it. And I have; I would grade my game as greater beta / aspiring alpha now, as opposed to a greater omega recovering from bad one-itis when I first came upon this blog a year ago. I’ve had two girlfriends this past year.

    I went to the bar last night with it on, and it was strange. I know Pherlure works, and that it doesn’t really degrade much over time (especially since I’ve kept it in the dark), but I had three hot chicks being really nice to me, including a really drunk 8 with a few male orbiters out for her 21 run who really went a bit nuts, even at one point saying “you can take me anytime”.

    If we all were on a healthy 1950s diet, and drinking 1950s water, would we be as unattractive to women as we typically are? As far as women talking all over men nowadays, literally, is it something in the water?

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    • In the water, in the genetically modified food, and in the way you’re instructed to eat so that even if you do your best to eat “healthy” you still get exposed.

      On this side of the world, many aware people view the U.S. as a giant lab, much like the Belgian Congo was treated for some time. The difference is that no force is needed to convince you to castrate and kill yourselves. They just tell you something is good for you, or make it expensive to avoid, and you graze where you’re told.

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    • Brawndo. “Its got electrolytes.”

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      • That’s the best thing about pheromones: most people don’t believe that they even exist (at least for humans).

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  26. Directly from Grandpa: “Boy, women are like flowers: They look pretty and smell good until you pick one, then they wilt and die on ya.”

    “Woman are like a damn goldfish: you’ll love any one that you spend enough time with. Then one morning they’re floating a belly up in the bowl. Cry a little then flush it.”

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  27. As I use to say: without the welfare state these problems wouldn’t arise. But the welfare state is a consequence of the ideas that are taught in the west. So we need to fight those ideas, not blame the victims of those ideas.

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    • I’m shocked. Someone gets it.

      Fighting those ideas is going to be a hard sell though. Too much profit is made from trying to override Nature and to convince people that there will be no consequences for this.

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      • This is probably one of the most succinct explanations I’ve read anywhere.

        Preaching to the choir is the easy part. There’s a whole ‘let it burn’ movement out there, and I think to be more accurate it’s not ‘let it burn’ but ‘watch it burn’. Fact is, consequences are coming and I see no way of stopping that from happening.

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    • The rub is, we’re only allowed to fight “ideas”.

      The minute one identifies the actual propagators of said ideas, let alone attempts any overt action against said enemy, well… The State still has its required monopoly on violence.

      We’re still in that awkward historical position of it being too late to correct the situation, yet too early to start shooting.

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      • Greg Eliot

        We’re still in that awkward historical position of it being too late to correct the situation, yet too early to start shooting.
        ——————————–

        Indeed; thats why some people are stacking kindling.

        “God gave Noah the rainbow sign, no more water but fire next time”.

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    • The problem is that the people who benefit and support the welfare state can beat you in every election. They will NEVER support you, no matter how moral your cause. Sadly, this probably means that modern Western Civilization, based on rule of law, human rights, and democratic checks simply cannot be sustained.

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  28. […] Men have a lot to say about fatherhood and imparting the values and knowledge that will assist sons (and daughters) in navigating a rapidly decaying culture. Reader AAB writes: The problem with fathers not teaching their sons about masculinity is that those sons grow up to become emasculated men, then fathers. A few generations down the line, your entire male population has been raised entirely by women (whilst the emasculated fathers were at work), and you end up like Japan, full of Hikkomori (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hikikomori), Grass Eaters, and Incest (http://seedofjapheth.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/japanese-incest/). In a similar vein, anon writes: The problem is that game has radically changed in the last 50 years. Your father’s info is obsolete in the bloody pulp that cultural marxism has left of our culture. Modern young women are LOL pathological narcissists who are nearly impossible to talk to without inducing a headache (not the case 50 years ago), so Pa isn’t going to provide the knowledge to work with them. This site is a “how to” for MODERN women with their pathologies. To quote a british 13 year old in a sexting article yesterday “When you grew up you asked a girl to kiss, today you ask them for sex.” John O’Sullivan, a former National Source: Chateau Heartiste   […]

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  29. My dad is so beta and whipped within his marriage that he wouldn’t have had any useful insider knowledge to parlay to me. I’ve learnt how to talk back against the grand-master bitch and her apprentice (my mum and sister), which is helpful, until both females get violent on me. Ah what an age of empowerment!

    It’s time to reverse this trend within my family. When I have a son i will beat his mother to the punch by inculcating him in the ways of the Red pill before my wife force Feeds him those blueys. He will be his fathers son, so help me God.

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  30. I can’t find any fault with that maxim and its corollary because I’ve seen it in action at literally every point in my life. I think just about every guy (or woman, for that matter) who isn’t blinded by feminist insanity will say the same. And yeah, the tendency to grow more liberal unless guarded against is just as evidenced, really. Some very insightful points made in a relatively short article…well done on that.

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  31. I can confirm this kind of father is important, and that mothers are betatizing influences.

    My dad is and always has been a serial philanderer. Cheating isn’t temptation he gives in to; it’s just something he does. I have seen him raise his voice to many a woman. I have seen him force fights so he had an excuse to leave the country for a week for a romp. I have seen him gaslight like an absolute psychopath. He has told me stories about counselling dudes in bars about their dying relationships…when he was the one fucking their girlfriend. I could go on and on.

    My mum would always tell me growing up how much of a prick he was and not to be like that. I bought it at first, but as I got older I started grilling her about her choices in partners and how he’s not the only one she’s had like that (although the others haven’t been quite that extreme.) These days she more or less understands the CH worldview.

    Growing up I thought he was insane, but he always emphasized how as I grew older I’d realize more and more he’s far from insane. He was completely right.

    Despite thinking he was crazy, I was still dispositionally influenced and lost my virginity before all my friends, and also had crazier sex stores by age 17 than a lot of guys will ever have.

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  32. Did my comment just get eaten my the spam bin?

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  33. But this begs the question of:

    How many alpha males/red pillians will actually go on to bear children?

    At this point- it seems that the red pill man is on either level of two extremes. One side is the older gentleman who has been divorce raped; stumbling over blogs and reading like this simply to gain a grasp on what has happened and why. After the nightmare that is (was?) his divorce, cuckoldry, etc… Do you think this man is going to spread his seed wantonly again? If he was smart, I would say no.

    On the other hand, we have the young man who has stumbled upon blogs like these as a way to increase his sexual access. If this young man succeeds in his endeavers (meaning he’s getting a lot of sex from multiple women), do you think he would be likely to settle down and have children? Probably not.

    That leaves us with the men in the middle. The pawns. The Betas. The lapdogs. These men so willing to procreate in a means to achieve an annuity of pussy. Of course, we know the path they are headed down; regardless, these are the men having sons…or at least raising sons.

    The problem is: The men who have the red-pill wisdom- do not have sons/daughters to share it with. Instead, they live a (hopefully) fulfilling life and bring their experience and knowledge to the grave.

    We can only hope the red-pill is a genetic trait, but I would guess it to be very recessive if so.

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    • On the other hand, we have the young man who has stumbled upon blogs like these as a way to increase his sexual access. If this young man succeeds in his endeavers (meaning he’s getting a lot of sex from multiple women), do you think he would be likely to settle down and have children? Probably not.

      Sure… with a 9 or a 10.

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    • Realistically speaking, most readers of blogs such as this one are most likley either guys over 30 who are trying to ‘get back into the game’ after divorce (or something along those lines), whom the women do not want anymore due to their age, OR younger guys who are too short/fug/fat/poor to get laid and who are desperately clinging to the hope that ‘game’ can solve their problems.
      Chances of any of them having children with anything resembling an attractive woman: Not Good.

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  34. on December 15, 2012 at 6:54 am 33yearsoldvirgin

    I was teached about women by my mother and not by my father. The result: 33 years old virgin incapable of having any relationship with a women. I am not a beta. I am an omega.

    Here is an advice for womens too: don’t ever teach your sons how to behave with women! Otherwise you’ll will never become a grandmother.

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  35. Actually, looking at the comments in the last thread commentor “FurriousFerret” has already given an interesting explanation to this:

    “This is simply due to low intelligence and/or low social class. The lower class are actually saved from the more severe effects of feminist idealogy due to their own stupidity. Their ineptitude when it comes to things such as finance, science and social graces afforded to classes above them is the same ineptitude that allows them to dismiss shitty paradigms such as feminism. So the lower the intelligence, the more that person will rely on their natural disposition without interference from their front lobe and if that chemistry is high in testorone, the natural will shine through. See Mike ‘The Situation’ for an example.”

    Feminism is an IQ 100+ disease.

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  36. ‘Enjoy life, enjoy being a man’ is probably the best advice that you could give to a potential father.

    A happy man/husband/father = a happy man, wife and child.

    Happy-go-lucky Jack Nicholson type, or aloof and distant Clint Eastwood type, whatever floats your boat, whatever feels comfortable for you is best for you.

    If you are happy and manly then your woman will be happy and womanly. She will be more likely to be in sound in her mind (fewer neuroses and bi-polar tendencies) and sound in her body (less flab/corpulence).

    During the gestation (following the conception), if you are happy in yourself then your woman will be happy in herself and so she will produce more testosterone in her body because of the influence on her lifestyle which will influence the development of the child in the womb, and thus its future physiology and psychological disposition (see the articles on 2D-4D ratios and in-vitro testosterone exposure, which I think CH has mentioned several times in the past). A child exposed to more testosterone in-vitro is more contented, less neurotic, more outgoing, more sociable etc.

    During the formative years of your child (0-5 years) if you are happy in yourself then your woman will be happy in herself and your child will be his self because of the positive role models set by his father and mother as individuals, and by the positive relationship that they have with each other and other people. Good role models are better than bad ones: an unhappy and weak father means a tyrannical/domineering mother, and consequently a weak undeveloped son, and/or a bitchy demanding daughter (who always sees her mother getting her way by nagging said husband). Man is an imitative creature after all. If the son and daughter see only weak men and domineering women, then that’s what they’ll likely grow up to be like.

    During the next ten to fifteen years of the child’s life if you are happy in yourself then your woman will be happy in herself and your child will be happy in his self. Your child will continue to imitate your positive manly traits (inquisitiveness, decisiveness, optimism etc) and will take them in his own direction. And then, when he finds a suitable woman, he will be able to pass on those positive traits to his own wife and children, thus perpetuating the process of enjoying manliness.

    It’s a brilliantly simple concept really: A happy man/husband/father = a happy man, wife and child. Unfortunately that concept seems to have been lost or corrupted somewhere along the way.

    The best advice to give any father or prospective father is to enjoy being themselves, enjoy being a man; the rest (the happiness of the wife by means of increased testosterone, the happiness of the family by means of positive role models, the happiness of the neighbourhood by means of sociable neighbours etc) is then just purely academic.

    http://anotherandrosphereblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/advice-for-fathers-enjoy-life-enjoy.html

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