Dark Personalities Get The Girl

Are you a psychopath? A schemer? A narcissist? How about a fully flowered sadist who loved to tear the wings off insects as a kid? Congratulations! You’ll do better with women than emotionally stable, sincere, modest and kind men.

Along comes another study (just in time for Christmas!) to pry into the darkest nooks of the human sexual psyche to see what it is that allows some men to succeed with women beyond the wildest dreams of romantical herbische kopfs.

The Associations Among Dark Personalities and Sexual Tactics Across Different Scenarios.

Although malevolent individuals may be willing to use any tactic necessary to obtain sex, not all antagonistic traits will predict coercion or coaxing in all situations. A sample of 447 adult men, collected in two waves, reported their intentions to engage in coercion or coaxing of hypothetical targets. Study 1 provided three hypothetical scenarios that result in sexual rejection: (a) an expensive date, (b) a stranger, and (c) a relationship partner, and Study 2 provided the same scenarios, and three additional scenarios: (d) a rival’s partner, (e) a bet, and (f) a powerful person. A Structural Equations Model indicated that a common antagonistic factor, indicated by Social Dominance and the Dark Triad traits of psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism, predicted coaxing across all situations, whereas only psychopathy predicted coercion across all situations. In addition, narcissism accounted for additional variance in coaxing when rejected by an expensive date. These findings suggest that across the different scenarios, psychopathy is primarily associated with coercive tactics and the common malevolent core among the traits is associated with coaxing tactics.

Evidence piles up that women are sexually and romantically attracted to Dark Triad jerks, and that men with the Dark Triad personality traits are more aggressive (and less ethical) in their pursuit of sex with women. The two libidinous energies combine to make life a pussy paradise for assholes and a sexually arid Abaddon for niceguy beta males waiting on the sidelines for their shot at a post-prime cougarfriend with the pre-Wall jitters.

If you’re wondering what all this has to do with game and picking up women, well, when in doubt… be a jerk. Niceguys might feel better about their romantic comportment, but all that self-righteousness and a buck buys them is ten minutes of broadband-streamed fapping.





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  1. “Niceguys might feel better about their romantic comportment”

    they feel better so long as they can block out reality. after that it’s active self-delusion or change. it does stink to have to act like an ass to have success, and it’s depressing in a way too, but it beats the alternative.

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    • When you see it works when you do it, you lose all respect for the women, and then it’s more fun overall. After all, they don’t deserve the old behavior you got rid of , do they? They never did.

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      • I don’t get the bitterness. Nice guy behavior isn’t what they want most of the time. They want a desireable guy who has the balls to protect and guide them and give them some attention. I respect and understand that.

        When they work hard to please you, they deserve a hungry kiss or a finger fuck to orgasm in a very public place.

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      • My reply disappeared, anyway I’m not bitter, just free of certain misconceptions I used to have. Married over 15 years, with kids.

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      • Misconceptions that you were to be rewarded if you were nice?

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      • No, in my case it was more like that there was no other way to act. I just didn’t see myself in any different role.

        Then I got a little older and played a bit with roleplaying, learning from others by learning to copy them or be like them, and often could say “hey this works!”

        I didn’t think I would get something by being nice. I though I should get something because I am a good catch. But I needed to be a good catch who who could game a little.

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      • And I lost respect for chicks who needed this sort of stimulation to be able to choose or to be attracted. As well as understanding that it was their pussy making the decision. So, am I supposed to respect a pussy? I mean I like ’em, but “respect” isn’t the primary emotion there.

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      • I respect they favor and reward guys who acquire what they want (even via questionable means). We wouldn’t be here in our current state of advancement if it weren’t so.

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      • This might seem strange, but something just clicked for me;

        Beta/nice-guy=feminist male gender/social role.

        (The concept of role in psychology is explained here: http://psychology.wikia.com/wiki/Roles).

        So when guys complain about nice-guys/betas sucking with women, they are essentially attacking feminism (the ones who created such a gender/social role), and this probably explains the vehement arguments given by feminists that nice-guys aren’t really nice-guys. For if feminists were to accept that being a nice-guy (read: fulfilling the feminist male gender/social role) resulted in you doing poorly romantically and sexually with women, then they’d basically lose all political support from men for feminism.

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      • > “And I lost respect for chicks who needed this sort of stimulation to be able to choose or to be attracted.”

        Younger Heartiste readers: For your future-wife candidates, concentrate on the nice girls from the good families, whose fathers saw to it that they grew up to be something more than mere oral/anal sperm receptacles attracted to The Darkness and to nothing else.

        Older Heartiste readers: Do everything in your power to see to it that your daughters don’t grow up to be nothing more than mere oral/anal sperm receptacles attracted to The Darkness and to nothing else.

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      • Even Miley Cyrus’ father, Billy Ray Cyrus, is now saying he has regrets on how he raised his daughter because of how she turned out…the millions of dollars do not mean much once a father sees his daughter self destroy, he even said he worries she might end up like Anna Nicole Smith…

        sorry no link, that was on WND or Townhall, can’t remember

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      • Also

        Younger Heartiste readers: For your future-wife candidates, concentrate on the girls who can sit down to “indian style” position and stand up from it using leg power alone.

        Especially if they do it without prompting.

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  2. In college we were all amazed at how the girls went for abusive, sadistic jerks rather than us nice guys. I didn’t understand it then, with predictable results. Now I’m slowly beginning to digest the red pill and recover from my beta providor pedastalizing days, with equally predictable results. But I still don’t understand it.

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    • Dark traits equal a better survival chance in dark days.
      The paleolithic was just a few failures from death for everyone.
      Imagine how our society would become if everything collapses and imagine who would thrive.

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      • Patriarch

        Imagine how our society would become if everything collapses and imagine who would thrive
        —————————————————————————-

        Dafuck?

        it hasn’t already collapsed?

        you mean this shit can get worse?

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      • Shit can always get worse…

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      • Nobody expects the Spanish Revolution.

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      • Spanish Inquisition

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      • If he is in the U.S. he may very well mean “revolution.”
        Theres a supermercado on every corner, the smell of bean paste is in the air…

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      • I am in the US, but I have lived in Spain under Franco. First comes the revolution, the come the Stukas; then comes the inquisition.

        Anyone who didn’t expect the inquisition wasn’t paying attention during the revolution.

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      • on December 10, 2013 at 5:31 pm Modern Primitive

        Well, when we run out of coal and uranium we’ll be going back to the stone age unless we can get one of the other technologies working properly.

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      • We could get slaves from Africa?

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      • All the way from another continent? Again? You fellows didn’t go anywhere since last time.

        “When we run out of coal” we can go after the coffee and cream. You’re safe for now, halfrican.

        Although, I can’t see us twice making the world-historical boner of mass-importing uncivilizable fourth-world savages just for a little cheap agricultural labor. Especially since manual (Manuel?) labor is obsolescing under massive productivity gains. And that whole 13th Amendment thing we have now would force us to dignify them as citizens this time. And if they ever as free citizens decided to stop working that would overload the capacity of our hypergenerous welfare state. Four centuries ago is a long time, but we have learned our lesson.

        Wait.

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      • There’s enough thorium for a 1000 years, not to mention sea water extraction …

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      • Leave it to Matt to channel his own inner Negroid hostility and rage.

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      • “There is a great deal of ruin in a nation” – Adam Smith

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    • It is not the paleolithic — even the mightiest hunter can come up empty and require the lame guy who got lucky to share — and without a state and power/resources tribal societies devolve into endless kin-warfare. Stick a spear in the guy’s back when he steals your women, you and your kin walk away and leave the tribe vulnerable to others. Rather, women’s desire for Dark Triads relates to the explosion of people evolutionary speaking in the Agricultural Age. Where a King or would-be-usurper was a good evolutionary bet. Yes it is risky, and women ALWAYS want a riskier partner, but the payoff if the bandit becomes the King is immense: her sons in particular enjoy massive reproduction advantages. See Ghengis Khan.

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      • The neolithic cultures are a direct expression of the genetic evolution that occured during the hundred or so centuries preceding the the development of agriculture. Anatomically modern humans predate the development of the agricultural revolution, by some estimates as high as around 45 to 60 thousand years before the present. If modern human evolution were confined to the only the last 9000 or so years there wouldn’t be enough time for the beginnings of speciation, also known ashuman racial diversity, to have occured.

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      • One hundred or so millienia, not centuries”

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      • Evolutionary change is a function of: population size; selection pressures; mutation rate; reproductive rate.

        Cochran and Harpending have found MASSIVE selection for genes (though they don’t understand the function) in the last 10,000 years, roughly the Agricultural Era. Likely candidates are: sociability, disease, lactose tolerance, alcohol tolerance, and yes hypergamy. In the Neolithic there is little to distinguish between Ultra Dominant and Less Dominant in terms of reproductive advantage. Resources were shared. Social structure was weak. In the agricultural era you see massive surpluses piling up and social inequality.

        Thesis: massive population size EXPLOSION kick starts human evolutionary change in the past 10,000 years, including female hypergamy i.e. selection for options on surplus resources. This included the ability to kill the old King and become the new one. I.E. Dark Triad. Dark Triads are Mal-adaptive in neolithic societies, where every one is flat and must rely on trust/reputation for mutual survival.

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      • That study is interesting but is missing some pieces. It doesn’t account for sexual dimorphism, which is present in most primates and all human populations, even those who were segregated and never developed agriculture. The aboriginal of Austrolasia is a perfect example, having lost contact several milennia before the last ice age ended, thousands of years before the agricultural revolution.
        The theory also does not explain a mechanism by which the necessary division of labor would take place among the sexes which would enable a society to advance far enough to create maximized agricultural output to the level of feeding a small city state.
        The most likely of explanations is that during the paleolithic men hunted while women stayed in the camp, communally raising the children with each other (and talking nonstop all day), which would easily give rise to the psychological difference between the sexes today.
        That theory seems to put the cart before the donkey, assuming that large scale domestication of plants and animals led to female hypergamy, without explaining the psychological underpinnings that would create a patriarchal (I love that word) society capable of having a king and an underling army of beta males ready to toil and slave.

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      • Active selection speeds up evolutionary outcomes — an ability that is most prominent, if not unique, in the human animal.

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      • Unfortunately we can also obtain the exact opposite outcome, we can “reverse” survival of the fittest and make the race weaker by actively selecting the wrong things, the wrong people…as our liberal “betters” are actively doing and insisting we do as well.

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      • Yes it is unique to the human animal

        what other animal voluntarily does things to make its own kind come to the brink of extinction?

        Do chicken welcome foxes in the hen in the name of diversity?

        Do chicken give foxes the right to vote on what is for dinner?

        Do chicken make it a hate crime to criticize foxes?

        Only humans can accelerate and help evolution produce better results and only humans can do the exact opposite and reverse evolution.

        Those humans are called ; white liberals

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      • Bobb Dobbs

        Active selection speeds up evolutionary outcomes —
        ——————————————————————————–

        It also can speed up evolutionary dead ends.

        Think about all the dog breeds that can only survive as domestics?

        Like the Chiwahwah.

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      • or third world immigrants who can only survive on welfare from generous western nations

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      • or canadian musicians who can only survive on welfare from stupid Americans who don’t know they are canadian

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      • And would those Canadians be?

        and if they are not US citizens how do they get a welfare cheque?

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      • The neolithic cultures are a direct expression of the genetic evolution that occured during the hundred or so millenia preceding the the development of agriculture. Anatomically modern humans predate the development of the agricultural revolution, by some estimates as high as around 45 to 60 thousand years before the present. If modern human evolution were confined to the only the last 9000 or so years there wouldn’t be enough time for the beginnings of speciation, also known ashuman racial diversity, to have occured.

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      • on December 10, 2013 at 12:00 pm haunted trilobite

        “Rather, women’s desire for Dark Triads relates to the explosion of demonic nature.” Fixed it for you

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      • on December 10, 2013 at 5:02 pm Eliezer Ben-Yehuda

        Can’t recall which blogger (someone in Steve Sailor’s links) it was who pointed out that breeding with a dark-triad type produces children who are MORE likely to produce grandchildren who ssurvive to child-bearing age. AND until very recently, just going through childbirth was a VERY dangerous journey for a woman. So, more grandchildren from fewer total children…. will be selected for. No matter what the manginas want.

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      • That theory doesn’t account for the creation of a patriarchal society, which is a necessary step towards agriculture and city states. Humans haven’t changed much in the last 30 to 50 thousand years. Evolution is much too slow for that.

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      • tj;dr

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  3. being wired up like a chick does have it’s advantages.

    other men hate you but who gives a fuck. the ones that do are alway a little horrified, a lot envious, and flat dumfounded with what a man who is locked down can get away with.

    the wage of the sigma, IMO.

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  4. They get so happy working hard to please a dark personality. Their eyes light up when they feel they’ve accomplished that for the moment, after you’ve indulged yourself of them.

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  5. “Evidence piles up that women are sexually and romantically attracted to Dark Triad jerks, and that men with the Dark Triad personality traits are more aggressive (and less ethical) in their pursuit of sex with women.”

    That’s just women projecting.

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  6. Girls love jerks because jerks keep them busy. Keeping busy keeps them from thinking.

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  7. What it comes down to is that nice guys who like being nice guys and also like women have to work together if they want to succeed in this environment.

    That’s the thing about dark triad, sooner or later, they WILL fuck over the group. So a group of genuine nice guys working as brothers for a common goal (ie the goal being everyone gets a family) will always overcome a similar pack composed of self centered narcissists.

    But in this generation most nice guys are really just backstabbing cowards who pretend to be nice.

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    • Guys never “worked together” very much to get married off. Maybe that worked more when these things happened in school or college, by now people are getting much older when they’re not in their childhood “gangs” any more.

      I guess you’re suggesting guys provide social proof for each other. Not a bad idea, I just don’t observe that hardly at all. It’s every man, every woman, for themselves.

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 11:45 am Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

      The writing here at Heartiste sometimes could better reflect that the purpose of this project is for nice guys to face and understand the Dark Triad in order, in the long-range analysis, to restore our unified and semi-cooperative national and civilizational fabric.

      In other words, we mimic Dark Triad types, and feed the darkness in ourselves just enough to allow us to overcome the darkness.

      White knights themselves are not up to this task, but they will arrive on the territory we’ve won after the fact, pose, and claim credit.

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 1:55 pm Hugh G. Rection

      Part of the problem is the dearth of desirable women these days.

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    • ” . . . most nice guys are really just backstabbing cowards who pretend to be nice.”

      In other words, women.

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  8. So, how exactly do you cultivate the dark-triad?

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  9. Re the TPM tweets … man, that jaw line just never ceases to boggle your mind. Forget andrew, I have my pick for most masculine.

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  10. Evidence keeps piling up as to why Eve ate the apple. She wanted to and Adam was beta enough to let her.

    If you want to have a dark personality…have it so that you can protect women from themselves.

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    • Like this dumb bitch for example:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2521200/Woman-teacher-27-half-naked-pupil-17-struck-2-years.html?ICO=most_read_module

      A teacher who was found half-naked in a layby with one of her teenage pupils could be back in the classroom in just two years after a disciplinary hearing.
      Eppie Sprung Dawson, 27, was found ‘unfit to teach’ by the hearing in Edinburgh yesterday.
      She was not present at the hearing, but in a statement read to the General Teaching Council for Scotland panel, she agreed to being struck off and admitted having sex with Matthew Robinson last December, when he was 17 years old.
      She said: ‘On the 9th of February I was convicted at Dumfries Sheriff Court.
      ‘I engaged in sexual intercourse with him; Contrary to Section 42 of the Sexual Offences (Scotland) Act 2009.
      ‘I was sentenced on 18 September 2013 and sentenced to a Community Payback Order and made subject to the sex offenders register.
      ‘I readily and willingly consent to being removed and understand that I will be prohibited from teaching for a period of two years.’

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  11. Isn’t this somewhat hopeful for both sexes? Women really do want to be told what to do. They really are intimidated and scared by the world at large. I think of my 40-something friend who blithely divorced her husband for incompatibility and then whines on Facebook about having to rewire the dining room light fixture, and then her car broke down, and it’s just one thing after another! Obviously she gave zero thought to how much it would suck to handle that stuff alone…and then d’oh! she lost her job too. Now she’s in full panic mode. Scratch the surface of a “feminist” and you’ll find a scared little girl. That really shouldn’t be news. Go alpha and stay that way for longer than a one night stand, and you might find something that’s worth having, i.e. that lasts.

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  12. on December 10, 2013 at 11:36 am Dr. Murray F. Rottencrotch

    Of course, your scheming can always go awry, and get you stabbed by a stabby woman.

    Or you can be out-schemed, and led into a mandigo gang rape ambush.

    So, you know–Being Alpha isn’t necessarily all it’s cracked up to be.

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  13. on December 10, 2013 at 11:49 am North Vinlander

    What do you think is worse for attracting women, being a beta male or getting a tattoo on your forehead that says “Racist”?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2059482/Patrick-Swayzes-niece-marries-Neo-Nazi-thug-linked-Obama-assassination-plot.html

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  14. Ah, so that explains it.

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  15. How does this study show that women are attracted to dark triad traits? It just says that two dark triad traits lead to “coaxing” strategies and that one leads to “coercive” strategies.

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    • lol welp seems like other people took this little query and ran with it. I was more getting at the fact that we don’t really know how successful these men are and in what degree.

      It’s important because I believe that the ‘dark’ triad (really, just a general detachment from the external and a focus on the internal —- manifestations of a strong will) follows a bell curve of returns. There’s a sweet spot that gets you maximum attraction, and then past that point, the returns are less and less and less so. Being ‘more’ aggressive is just a little nebulous. I

      So, the women who swoon for serial killers probably have a similar incidence as women who swoon for total herbs. The former make the news because serial killers make news. But hey, that’s just a hypothesis.

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      • Scray-dawg. Another text exchange today with this HB6.5 I number-closed via daygame. I approached with “Hey I know this is unusual but you seemed lonely standing here so I thought I’d come say hi.”

        Interaction went well and was overall flirty. I didn’t use the D-word (date) and she had to usher me away as a client she was set to meet with was approaching. Realizing i had precious seconds left I got her to spit me her digits and we had less-than-solid plans to meet-up. I called her as I walked away and she picked up and I riffed on that a bit. Meanwhile to the client it seemed like she was just intercepting a call at this point.

        Disclaimer: Texting is a major deficiency. But I did try to do some plowing. Not sure if this is the right example of it:

        Me: Hey Vanessa, try not to let your client end up in jail tonight. Talk soon. -ImmoralG

        Her: Haha hi ImmoralG. I don’t think that’ll happen but thanks haha

        (Next day)
        Me: So miss Vanessa. Today I was warned about half Cuban/ half Filipino girls.

        Her: Haha, oh really? Why is that?

        Me: 1) they can get a little crazy 2) they’re really good cooks and 3)

        Her: Haha and the third?

        Me: 3) that Cuban side of you is known to get um, “passionate” when you get angry

        Her: Lol well whoever told you fed you the typical stereotypes. And I’m pretty sure 1 and 3 are similar haha

        Me: Crazy = you stabbing me in my sleep. Angry = you stabbing me when I make fun of Long Island. BIG DIFFERENCE

        **Ops Note: During interaction I made fun of her from being from Long Island**

        Her: Well I wouldn’t do either lol so whoever told you that def told you stereotypes

        Me: You may be right, this Filipino co worker of mine is probably trying to stop you from winning me over
        Me: Speaking of which, where in the city do you work because im picking a good spot to meet at around 7p

        (Up until then, she was responding 1-3min after mine. But this was an hour gap)
        Me: Lets do Wednesday

        Her: I have plans after work on wednesday

        Me: Miss popular, suggest a time u can meetup and ill check my sched

        (2 hours later)
        Her: I’m busy this week but next week should be better

        ***Ops Note: OP gets frustrated and starts to overthink so….***

        Me: …

        Her: Any day next week works for me after 6

        (1 hour later)
        Me: Ok cool

        Conclusion: So yeah, I tried to infuse some pre-selection, Scray plowing, Walawala pattern, and ellipsis game.

        I def felt the interaction slip at one point, either to me being too verbose or whatever. Hard to put my finger on it. But the ellipsis was better used this time than with the HB7 Asian, I think because she was bullshitting and she realized it.

        Overall, I’d still like to get the plowing thing down as it could help things better click.

        I’ll prob ping her at the end of the weekend, gauge where her temp is at and offer an olive branch like “How’s your week looking” and go from there.

        Still feels like at least I have a sword in battlefield but I’m swinging it wildly and am likely to maim myself in the process lol

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      • ***EDIT:*** Inserted an extra line where HB6.5 said “For when”. I did not text 3 times in a row and if that ever happens I will promptly commit harakiri.


        Me: You may be right, this Filipino co worker of mine is probably trying to stop you from winning me over
        Me: Speaking of which, where in the city do you work because im picking a good spot to meet at around 7p

        (Up until then, she was responding 1-3min after mine. But this was an hour gap)

        Her: For when? <======= INSERTED

        Me: Lets do Wednesday

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      • @immoral

        Notice how this pattern amps up the sex quickly and gets her asking questions and offering information?

        Here’s where to tighten this up;

        Her: Haha and the third? SEE??? SHE”S ALREADY INVESTED!

        Me: 3) that Cuban side of you is known to get um, “passionate” when you get angry GOOD.

        Her: Lol well whoever told you fed you the typical stereotypes. And I’m pretty sure 1 and 3 are similar haha GOOD

        Right here:

        Me: Crazy = you stabbing me in my sleep. Angry = you stabbing me when I make fun of Long Island. BIG DIFFERENCE

        BETTER:

        You: Behave, or it’s the naughty corner….

        **Ops Note: During interaction I made fun of her from being from Long Island**

        Her: Well I wouldn’t do either lol so whoever told you that def told you stereotypes

        HERE:

        You: Well, if you promise to behave, let’s go for a mojito…but definitely NOT balut.

        TOO MUCH PFAFFING…SHE’S ALREADY INVESTED…THIS IS WHY SHE STARTED TAPERING OFF…

        Me: You may be right, this Filipino co worker of mine is probably trying to stop you from winning me over
        Me: Speaking of which, where in the city do you work because im picking a good spot to meet at around 7p

        (Up until then, she was responding 1-3min after mine. But this was an hour gap)

        LOGISTICS….OK

        Me: Lets do Wednesday

        Her: I have plans after work on wednesday

        Me: Miss popular, suggest a time u can meetup and ill check my sched

        (2 hours later)
        Her: I’m busy this week but next week should be better

        ***Ops Note: OP gets frustrated and starts to overthink so….***

        Me: … EXCELLENT USE OF …

        Her: Any day next week works for me after 6

        (1 hour later)
        Me: Ok cool

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      • Ahhhhhhh,, I see what you did there. Ya OK I’ll try to incorporate more of the “behave/her being naughty” angle. Your version effectively segues into mojitos while mine was a bit forced.

        Thanks Walawala

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      • Texting isn’t the problem. Your approach wasn’t good enough. You are trying to make up for a lack of comfort (“who the fuck is he?”), but it simply doesn’t work by text. No fancy line could have made her agree to meet with you.

        I’d say the approach and conversation wasn’t as flirty as you think. The way she gave you her number seems forced, and I don’t understand why you called her right after that. Learn to identify targets that are simply not interested.

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      • I concur on the comfort angle but he had limited time and was working with what he had.
        I see no prob with trying to make up the comfort via text. All he needs to do is get enough comfort to get the meetup and then he can game in person.

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      • ‘Me: Hey Vanessa, try not to let your client end up in jail tonight. Talk soon. -ImmoralG’

        Solid opening, per usual.

        ‘Her: Haha hi ImmoralG. I don’t think that’ll happen but thanks haha’

        She’s already reacting to you, so you’re coming in with more value than you were in the other exchange.

        ‘(Next day)
        Me: So miss Vanessa. Today I was warned about half Cuban/ half Filipino girls.’

        lol why’d you wait? I’ll assume that you met her that night and texted her that same night, then waited til the next day. This is a good little routine, altho maybe you can add that a girl warned you about them.

        ‘Her: Haha, oh really? Why is that?

        Me: 1) they can get a little crazy 2) they’re really good cooks and 3)

        Her: Haha and the third?

        Me: 3) that Cuban side of you is known to get um, “passionate” when you get angry

        Her: Lol well whoever told you fed you the typical stereotypes. And I’m pretty sure 1 and 3 are similar haha

        Me: Crazy = you stabbing me in my sleep. Angry = you stabbing me when I make fun of Long Island. BIG DIFFERENCE’

        She’s into it. One of the advantages of going in with moderate-higher value lol

        **Ops Note: During interaction I made fun of her from being from Long Island**

        ‘Her: Well I wouldn’t do either lol so whoever told you that def told you stereotypes

        Me: You may be right, this Filipino co worker of mine is probably trying to stop you from winning me over
        Me: Speaking of which, where in the city do you work because im picking a good spot to meet at around 7p’

        These are fine. Even though she didn’t respond for an hour. However — and this is totally a matter of calibration — you may want to consider not lingering on any thread too long. Once she answers your question (typical girly way of not answering btw lol…bishes be cray), she’s done with it even if she’s still ‘loling.’ You kind of did end it after her too tho….I probably would have just pushed for the meetup without the filipino co-worker thing (but that’s also because I probably would have put in that sort of info at the START of the routine lol).

        I always like to START the routines with a lot of little seeds. That way, it can evolve naturally. See, if you included the pre-selection at the start, then you have the ‘who is your co-worker, are you seeing her’ general tangents in addition to the ‘haha cuban girls are cray’ tangents. If you wanna try to get real balla, you can add something else — like, ‘while doing [activity x] my hot female friend warned me about girls like you.’ Now you have three — ‘oh you cool activity x?’ ‘oh your hot female friend?’ ‘oh girls like me?’

        ‘Me: Lets do Wednesday

        Her: I have plans after work on wednesday

        Me: Miss popular, suggest a time u can meetup and ill check my sched

        (2 hours later)
        Her: I’m busy this week but next week should be better

        ***Ops Note: OP gets frustrated and starts to overthink so….***

        Me: …

        Her: Any day next week works for me after 6

        (1 hour later)
        Me: Ok cool’

        This was a good spot for “ellipsis game” because you had enough value for it. Unfortunately my dude, you had a good amount of value with her before the texting, so you’re primarily running FAG in text. You did seem to DHV a bit with that routine at the beginning. But, what’s strange tho is that she got kinda serious after the first little routine.

        And that’s not a critique of your txt game btw. It’s preferable to have DHV’d in person and not have to do as much work in txt. At the same time, you see how it’s hard to figure out what is good in txt, because sometimes you have more value.

        For experiment’s sake, the next routine you do in txt….add a ‘comfort’ seed that you guys can talk about. ‘ya while I was boating today this girl i’m friends with warned me about girls like you….’

        ‘oh ya? what kind of girl am I?’

        ‘x kind of girl lol’

        ‘omg really, that’s so weird blah blah blah’
        —switch it up—-
        ‘who cares….do you like the ocean? i feel really peaceful when I boat’

        So ya, take her on a ride. Try to never have the routine or thread die, switch while you’re on the ‘high’ of the routine. So up above, when she was all lawlzy about the cuban stereotype thing, you should have switched. You keep juggling the hot potato and you build value and you associate YOU with these positive emotions, rather than ‘this guy said X and X was funny and made me have positive emotions.’

        Does that make sense?

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      • Thanks man. It’s startttting to make sense but I still feel aimless most of the time. But, I learn some nuggets from you, walawala and YaReally here and a few more there and hopefully it will click.

        Question tho, what do u make of the way I ended it? I reckoned that no point served in making plans that far in advance so I just kinda deaded it and will reach out next week when thing pick up.

        One thing I noticed that works for you is that you display the IDGAF attitude but it comes from a good headspace and you fan control the boat even when you’re taking it in choppy waters. I’m still not there yet so I’m balancing pushing the envelope and not fucking things up. A tought act to put up.

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      • Well you never set a date. I always set a date then make sure they’re the last one to text.

        Ultimately, you have to let it all go. the only reason ive gotten anything at all is just because ive never been afraid to try whatever. put yourself out there for extreme rejection. the reference experiences are worth it and you improve very fast.

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      • Appreciate it, that’s what I needed to hear

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  16. A major sticking point for neophyte jerks is that they fear losing the girl as a result of their asshole behavior.

    Women will often threaten to leave/cheat/break up when you’re playing the psychopath. Don’t take tge bait. The unlearned will quickly revert to standard issue beta appeasement to sustain the relationship.

    Ditch that fear. I guarantee you that sticking to your asshole guns will pay off. Consistency and congruency are important. Have faith in the principles of this blog and never stray too far from the Dark Triad.

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    • Also, spelling errors are alpha as fuck. 😉

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 12:24 pm North Vinlander

      “If you keep up your BS, it’s over!”

      “Well then, I hope [some hot girl] is still single.”

      How’s that?

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      • Amateurish, but you have the right idea.

        I don’t generally recommend canned lines as I believe Game should be molded around the player’s innate personality. Canned lines are for try-hard PUA frosh.

        That being said, you could do better than that. It sounds a little too by-the-book.

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      • on December 10, 2013 at 12:39 pm North Vinlander

        How about responding to a threat like that with nothing but a smirk, a laugh, and a roll of the eyes? That would communicate everyone I’d want to get across (though it would be hard to fake if it wasn’t genuine). Generally, the less said the better I think.

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      • If you believe everything that goes into the smirk etc. you’re golden. Otherwise, you’re faking it and may not pull it off. You have to believe in yourself and your ability to pull fresh meat in a world of abundance.

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      • challenge: “If you keep up your BS, it’s over!”

        response: “BS”

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      • “If you keep up your BS, it’s over!”

        “Sure, sure..”

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      • “If you keep up your bs, it’s over!”
        “Calm down, Ashley…”
        “WHO THE FUCK IS ASHLEY?!”

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      • lolz

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  17. Just to cheer everyone up, some legal scholars are hot on the trail of “sex-by-deception” and wish to have it categorized and prosecuted as merely another variant of forcible rape. This means, for example, that if a Lothario says “I love you” when he doesn’t mean it, or if he changes his mind the next day, or if he says he bought his BMW for cash when in fact he leased it with money he borrowed from his mommie, he should (according to feminist scholars) be prosecuted for rape.

    “One might also wonder how we should solve the riddle of rape-by-deception. After all, if rape is the violation of one’s right to refuse sex, whatever principle that right derives from, then why isn’t rape-by-deception rape? 70 The short answer is that we should count many cases in which sex is elicited by fraud or deception as rape.”

    http://yalelawjournal.org/the-yale-law-journal-pocket-part/criminal-law-and-sentencing/delineating-the-heinous:-rape,-sex,-and-self%11possession/

    I needn’t mention, of course, the the feminist scholar does not contemplate feminine deception, or even coerced marriage via deceptive sexual practices, to be rape. Nuh-uh. Just when a guy says something that’s not (in the woman’s eyes) true in order to get to home plate.

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  18. During a Roman Triumph it was traditional for a slave to ride with the victor and whisper to him reminders of how fleeting is glory and how short is life. In Latin this was called “memento mori”.

    I propose that we resurrect the memento mori for the hot young ladies in our society. A coming-out parade, of sorts, where the ladies will ride in cars accompanied by an old woman who will whisper to them things like, “By 40 you will be invisible to men” and “You’ll be over 40 for more than half your life” and “At 55 the only things that will bring you joy are your children and grandchildren; not your career, not your travels, nor your accomplishments.”

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 1:09 pm Diogenes the Cynic

      Comment of the week.

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    • The cultural cuntundrum at its essence.

      We indulge fantasies of immortality rather than the more proper perspective of sub specie aeternitatis. This is very natural to human nature, especially in youth. Which is why entire institutions have developed around supporting a practical approach to this drop of the abyss in our soul.

      The Rite of Christian Worship is the ultimate memento mori, practiced an hour weekly, which suffices for those who understand what is going on at mass.

      Why, you don’t even need to be a conquering Princeps with slaves whispering unsweet nothings in your ear. All you have to do is find a quiet place and you will find that a “still, small voice” (1 Kings 19:12) has been reminding you all along.

      “Remember, man, that you are dust, and unto dust you shall return.”

      Matt

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      • on December 10, 2013 at 2:19 pm Hugh G. Rection

        Ironic that you mention a fantasy of immortality, which is exactly what religion is.

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      • Come back when you acquire a grown-up’s understanding of faith. Read the book of Ecclesiastes and tell me where the “fantasy of immortality” is in there. Or try Job. Or “Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani?” of Matthew and Mark. Typical of the smug irreligious twat to carefully select only the most basic Sunday School lessons meant for early pedagogy to snark against.

        Life is guaranteed to no one, much less eternal life. That is the opposite of fantasy. We understand eternity to be as improbable as this life itself. The typical pagan fills his consciousness with divertissements or distractions, pretending that tomorrow will be just like today. That is the fantasy of immortality. An exercise in permanent forgetfulness. The opposite is required of the Christian.

        We are trained to appreciate the gift of this life, here and now, and to place it in the context of our inevitable death. Our most recognized symbol is one of torture and murder; the crucifix is the universal memento mori.

        Your choice is between the God of life and the nihil. Between existence and abyss. (Or, so that the message reaches the cheap seats: heaven and hell.) Your slothful lack of interest in this reality makes it no less real; your arrogant and unexamined presumption of a third way makes you as naïve as the young slut who thinks she will be beautiful forever. It is unsurprising that a know-it-all will choose the nothing in order to avoid acknowledging the fact that he did not create himself. Like adolescents do.

        You can begin to learn all about it at mass this Sunday. Or today, if it’s an emergency.

        Matt

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      • Soooo, im assuming you reject the Nicene Creed?

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      • Not in the least.

        I can’t even begin to see how you imagine are making some killer point. You are just one more ignoramus who never took the tenets of Nicaea seriously enough to understand them, their history, or their proper context, but who thinks citing them amounts to a devastating rebuttal. (And you don’t even cite one in the specific.)

        Next tell me about the proper understanding of “Judge not, lest ye be judged,” and “Love your enemy,” and the whole litany of pseudodoctrinal notions to which you cryptolefty atheists love to refer.

        P.S. Speaking of cryptolefty, “Sooooo” is as much of a tell as, “Ummm” and “wow just wow.”

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      • No Matt,
        Relax Cujo. It was a serious question.
        I’m trying to piece together how your above statement jives with the Declaration. I’ve always figured you only saw symbolism in the churches teachings, surely an intellect such as yours doesn’t believe in the literal, physical existence of disembodied
        spirits. Looking for clarification Matt.

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      • “Surely an intellect such as yours doesn’t …” is one of the dumber assumptions you could bring into a conversation whose purpose is the elucidation of wisdom.

        All wisdom proceeds from the simplest, or the most childlike, agnosticism. The Socratic starting point of all philosophy: “All I know is I know nothing.”

        The point of philosophical investigation is to first eliminate all of the prejudgments (prejudice) you didn’t realize you had, such as the impossibility of the existence of certain things just because you haven’t encountered them.

        I am several steps past that. Not only do I know why you can’t rid yourself of these unexamined prejudgments, I know exactly who bequeathed them to you and how they did it. Your starting point was furnished to you by the liars who assembled under the banner of Positivism or Materialism. Auguste Comte was mentioned in a recent thread. He’s your intellectual Daddy.

        Plato, Aristotle, Our Lord Jesus Christ, Augustine, Aquinas, Machiavelli, Shakespeare, and Nietzsche are my forebears. More important, I have vigorously studied and am therefore aware of my intellectual genealogy. Whereas “Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct [thinker]” (modified Keynes).

        In other words, you and I can’t have a serious discussion about my understanding of “all things invisible.” Especially online. There is too much unpacking of your prejudice to be done.

        Matt

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      • Relax Cujo.

        LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Although I don’t get your ref. to the Nicene Creed, it is not in opposition to anything that was stated above.

        re: ” surely an intellect such as yours doesn’t believe in the literal, physical existence of disembodied
        spirits.”

        I consider myself to be of above (probably highly) average intelligence. I can accept the existence of a realm beyond this one quite readily. Matt calls it “Heaven”, I call it nothing because I don’t think mere mortals can articulate such a place.

        A thought experiment, if you’d indulge me…

        Prior to the discovery of electromagnetism, there will millions of variants of waveform running all through the world and even into humans. Visible light, UV, IR, radio, background cosmic, gamma radiation, etc.

        It is happening right now to you as well but at a much higher volume with massive preponderance of radio/wireless technology. You cannot feel, see, hear, taste, or touch this phenomenon. But it is as real as the computer you are reading this on. Because you lack the senses to interact with this presence, does not make it any less real.

        I think you take the meaning of my analogy…

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      • That’s a cop out answer Matt.
        Answer the question…

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      • I answered the question in the first line of my response. “Not in the least.”

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      • Ok, so you do believe in the Nicene Creed.
        How do you tie that into your philosophical beliefs, the premise being agnostic?
        Im not ignoring you Jay by the way, I’m gonna address yours in a bit. This is difficult to do from a smartphone in a vietnamese restaurant.

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      • Jay,
        I didn’t mean only unintelligent people believe in gods. The way Matt speaks sounds allegorical to me.
        As far as your experiment went, it does bring up an interesting point.
        My objection to it would be that the things mentioned were predictions first, being brought about sometimes by mathematical theories being brought to their logical conclusions.
        My questioning of spiritual objects is the same. If they exist, they must be made of something and interact with matter.
        I don’t see any theoretical evidence to support how they could exist, given that most descriptions entail impossible characteristics, such as not being made of anything or existing outside of time and or space. If you see any flaw in my reasoning, let me know. I’d rather have an accurate view of reality than have my sacred cows coddled anyday.

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      • Patriarch, give Leibniz’s Monadology a read. It’s short, and it won’t answer any of your questions. Properly understood, it’ll just torpedo them.

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      • I’ve read it, the author is clever,
        but I take issue wit the anti determinism in the mechanics of his system.
        It doesn’t answer the hard question of how casuality could be violated, which I posit is a semantic absurdity, like rectangular circles or a four legged biped.
        The foundation of science, of all knowledge, is the assumption that reality exists and that requires deterministic mechanics, the antithesis being a nihilistic epistemology of being able to know or communicate nothing.

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      • My comment got lost in moderation.
        The short summary is that I’ve read it.
        It’s clever, but I don’t like the violation of causality.
        Determinism is necessary for the axiom “reality exists” to be meaningful.
        An object existing without substance or outside of space and time or without causality is a logical absurdity, like square circles or alive dead people.

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      • An object existing without substance or outside of space and time or without causality is a logical absurdity, like square circles or alive dead people.
        ————————————————————————————-

        Does a blank DVD weigh less that one with a movie on it?

        If all ni66ers hung themselves would you stop using the word because we ceased to exist?

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      • Thwack do you realize you are the only one here using the “n” word to describe blacks?

        what are you trying to accomplish here?

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      • If all canadians hung themselves would you stop using the word because you ceased to exist?

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      • I have never used the n word

        99.99% of Canadians do not call blacks the n word.

        Even those of us who are race realists and who are educated and informed on all that is wrong with blacks such as high crime rates don’t call them the n word

        we dissaprove of anyone using the n word

        even those of us who oppose mass immigration don’t call them the n word

        we do not hate them, we do not mean them any harm

        we simply want them to either behave like civilized humans or go back to their country

        we disapprove of anyone using the n word

        but you on the other hand give each other awards for writing poems and songs about killing cops and white people

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      • I say the word nigger alot.
        My girlfriend thinks my racism is sexy.

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      • If they exist, they must be made of something and interact with matter. [my emphasis]

        This is your dogmatic, foundational statement about which I am agnostic. You have stated the official presumption of materialism. I do not worship at that church, as you do. You do not even realize you go to a certain church.

        Therefore, we will discuss the Nicene Creed as soon as you are prepared to discuss the limits of the Materialist Creed, and the first step is to consciously acknowledge it as a faith. Then we will be speaking the same language.

        You think you are the most radical skeptics there are, but you get to a certain question and then stop. That’s when the truly random assertions begin, such as, the only things that can possibly exist in the universe are those that I, Patriarch, can observe.

        Like I said, we are at least half-a-dozen philosophical steps ahead of you. You are simply not prepared to have a discussion about this until you become conversant in epistemology.

        Matt

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      • Put another way, there is a problem that my statement begins with “credo” or “I believe,” whereas you think you get to skip ahead and simply assert for the both of us what “must be.”

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      • Bragging you can refute what I said,
        And actually doing it are two separate endeavors, Matt.
        Quit talking about how easy it is and demonstrate how you believe existence can work sans determinism without violating causality.
        You, have demonstrate how these things work, or admit you don’t know.

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      • I don’t know how to put it any plainer. We don’t share a common language.

        Until you realize how shallow your agnosticism/skepticism is, we have no frame of reference to synthesize a mutual understanding on the subject. Just lots of round-n-round. I gave you my answer several times, you just are unable to acknowledge it, much less process it. Rather you continue insisting I dumb down something un-dumb-downable so you can engage it.

        Your prancing away with a superior pose and smug expression neither impresses nor fazes me. It happens a lot with your type when the conversation is reduced to subjects you are intellectually unable to address.

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      • Ok Matt.
        I accept your surrender.
        Don’t take it too hard on yourself, the day I realized dualism was an indefensible philosophical tr8ck of semantics anathema to reality was a hard lesson to learn also.
        Look at it this way, at least now you can actually get down to some of the other difficult metaphysicwl issues without the nagging need to rationalize everything through the filter of acceptable dogma. 🙂

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      • “You think you are the most radical skeptics there are…”

        Atheists are fun that way. They have no idea how radically skeptical Christians are allowed to be.

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      • Plato, Aristotle, Our Lord Jesus Christ, Augustine, Aquinas, Machiavelli, Shakespeare, and Nietzsche are my forebears. More important, I have vigorously studied and am therefore aware of my intellectual genealogy.

        Are there any specific manuscripts you can recommend to learn more about the figures you noted above?

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      • The History of Political Philosophy is a good primer for the ancients and moderns. But, owing to the Jewish influence, you will have to go elsewhere for the Christians. I found Tillich’s History of Christian Thought superb. You don’t learn about “the figures” per se — who really cares about their biographies, though? — so much as the shape of their thought and its importance to the development of Western Civilization.

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      • You don’t learn about “the figures” per se — who really cares about their biographies, though?

        Indeed, I should’ve been particular with my language. Thanks for the recommendations.

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      • Seems like a fresh perspective on “God.” So far I gather that worship and religion serve to refresh a man’s memory about his impending death, which enables him to truly appreciate his life in the moment and keep himself free from regret. Maybe I’ve misread — if so, expound or explain.

        Ecclesiastes seems to suggest that wisdom, the type a man would gain from using religion in this way, is also chasing after the wind.

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      • Scray,
        Take note of how Matt King behaved above in our little “debate.”
        He’s utterly convinced beyond the scope of even explaining his own position of the superiority of self pleasuring rhetoric uber alles.
        Despite what they say,
        religion is a tool used to control women, children, and weaker males.
        Matts shrieking contrary to the facing of my simple facts above is the tell of his inner psychological need to “beta up” to a superior male authority, I.e. “god”, evident in his feminine deference to emotionality and a refusal to engage in a rational discussion.
        Matt doesn’t realize it but he behaves predictably enough to demonstrate his genetic selection.
        It’s basic primate psychology.
        Recognize the pattern and avoid it.

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      • it’s sold as “eternal salvation,” which gets you back to “fantasies of immortality.” The “do unto others” et alia schtick is anti-triad.

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      • Thank you for demonstrating why selling the “Dark Triad” to putzes like you is such a bad idea.

        What could go wrong telling Ned the washed-up omega that obtaining a personality disorder will get him pussy? When his antisocial behavior digs him even deeper into his already miserable existence, he starts calling himself Zombie Killer and revenges himself on the world in intensely creative ways. He is a self-styled “psychopath” after all.

        At least you have a forum like this to blow off some steam. And porn. And Xbox One. And new attention from fat girls. But it doesn’t add up to much, does it?

        Matt

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      • Such adorable impotent rage, little Matthew. Would Jesus stomp his foot and avoid the point when his theories are shot full of holes? Despite your vocabulary neither your Daddy nor your book could convey to you how to function as a man in the that big, cruel real world, so you try so, so hard to eek out some online relevance as a prophet in the comments sections of writings created by others. While your childish tantrum amuses me, it doesn’t do anything except demonstrate that your coddled upbringing leaves you no closer to obtaining the pussy you obsess over than when you were flinging your poo against the wall as a toddler.

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      • I neither felt nor demonstrated any rage. Tantrum? I’m forced to assume you’re projecting.

        Did you have a response that actually shoots my “theor[y] … full of holes,” or were you just venting against a wholly fabricated caricature of a person you have never met?

        And, it’s “eke.” “Eek!” is what a ZOMBIE KILLER screams when he sees a mouse. Homophonic transpositional fail, my onomatopoetic bro. Having a “vocabulary” helps with things like communication, point-making, and reading comprehension. You should check it out.

        Take command of your insecurities, don’t let them control you. Your rhetoric will improve in general, and you won’t have to rely on verbal false limbs like “impotent rage” and “big, cruel real world” (two in one!) and “eke out” and “childish tantrum” and “coddled upbringing.”

        Matt

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      • Others notice your inability to control your emotions, bro. Relax. When you get over your tantrum, we can talk.

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      • My theory is Matt is just another Character here at the Chateau, like the antithesis to GBFM. There’s no way he could be anything else.

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      • Interesting theory. An autistic parody to counter the superficially uneducated ramblings. Pure genius and entertaining, but a lot of work.

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      • The crypto-Cathedral shaming clowns are running the circus again? Sigh…

        Like the SWPL lefties you disparage, you yourselves insist upon the right to your own dictionaries along with your vapid opinions.

        Getting your ass handed to you… and royally I might add… is not the denotation of tantrum.

        Not even the connotation, to the Law’s proverbial “reasonable person”.

        Personally, I’m getting weary… indeed, sick unto Death… at how the so-called alphadom of the much-vaunted “Dark Triad” is little more than South Park snarkery when the paunch of the peanut gallery’s irreligious sensibilities has been punched.

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      • Sick unto Death, and weary sighs. You’re the effeminate emo one, aren’t you? Does young Matthew have a predisposition towards chamomile-loving drama queens who take it royally in the ass?

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      • Words, words, words.

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      • Like I said, South Park snarkery… come get one in the yarbles, if’n ya got any yarbles, eunuch jelly, thou.

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      • OT: Omicron of the month text game nomination:

        ge: Oh Matt, these brutish, snarky, irreligious Alphadoms make me feel so weak, sickly and weary.
        mk: Your dour and anemic manner soothes me after my tempestuous outbursts. I become excessively succinct and dystopian in my conquests on the interwebs.
        ge: Oh, Matt, your words and your yarbles are so…
        mk: bend over, my little droogie

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      • Teh ghey projection is strong in this one.

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      • Forget it, Greg. It’s Chinatown.

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      • Don’t be so modest Greg. You can whiteknight Matthew’s outbursts and embrace your emo femininity at the same time.

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      • Embrace this, you pusillanimous dastard…

        You [email protected]’ child…

        You company man…

        You fairy.

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      • Don’t ass-hand yourself unless you’re on the fainting couch, Greg. Besides, Matt told you to pull out.

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      • Matt doesnt enjoy being called out for his slave morality, but remind him that he is obligated to turn the other cheek and love you as his enemy. He is a neutered housepet, and growling at the master only results in his shame. Tell him to run along, Mass will be starting soon and it is important he be punctually on his knees, mouth open, waiting to recieve what Father has for him.

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      • I see. I assumed you to be a respectable opponent, Patriarch. So hard to gauge character online.

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      • You’re stronger than that.
        Don’t insult the both of us.

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      • There is no “strength” in acquiescing to the low-class behavior of dishonorable plebs. You and your small ways don’t insult me, nor can they. Your association insults me, now that I have seen what you are.

        It’s like standing next to a dude with a public masturbation problem.

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      • Good.
        Honestly, I was genuinely worried you were going to slip.
        You had me convinced,
        Well played.

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      • The Cathedral! The Cathedral! The Frankfurters are in the Cathedral! Oh, the obscenity of it!!!

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      • Pay no attention to the Hebe behind the curtain, eh?

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      • what color is the dust?

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      • And can you hang said dust from trees?

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      • Matt,

        It’s true. My grandmothers and mother were fervent old-school Catholics. Tough as nails but worshipped their husbands and families. Hated feminism and despised promiscuous females.

        Trouble with humanity’s getting rid of God is the tendency to replace him with us on the throne. And as the heirs of Travis the face-eating chimp, we’re not optimal.

        And all you atheists, just ask yourselves this – if God doesn’t exist why do you give a shit about others believing in Him? All the “magic carpenter” jibes smack of insecurity.

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      • Man is a really crappy god. Woman is an even worse one.

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      • I agree with you that christianity does help families stay together. but these so called christians are going around trying to convert people to the bible with falsehoods. If you preach on top of the stage, you are willingly opening yourself to be criticised by the crowd.

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      • Shit, preaching’s not the exclusive territory of religious believers: Richard Dawkins would make a fine Ayatollah.

        Besides, the conflict isn’t between believers and atheists. It’s between those who care about the West (and get girls) and those who want a “utopia” of crime and broken homes (and read Amanda Marcotte)

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      • Black people are the most religious demographic and they don’t keep their families together.

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      • A black straw man if ever I saw one.

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      • If you want to consider voodoo and Marxism religions…

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      • Corvinus for the win.

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      • I’m the least religious person you’re likely to meet, and yet I still serve the king.

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      • In this day and age it is mostly the left that is doing a lot of proselytism.

        the media, education system and Hollywood are all trying to convert us to the commandements of leftism such as

        -gays are better people than “breeders”
        -women are better than men
        -colored people are better than whites
        -thou shall not criticize gays, feminists and colored
        -all whites are racists, thus sinners
        -all men are rapists and wife batterers
        -global warming is happening and is man made
        -Obama is Jesus, but Nelson Mandela is Jesus too
        -thou shall not watch Fox News ( or sun news in Canada )

        etc etc

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      • Who says all atheists hate religion? I don’t see convincing evidence for a God, but religion makes people behave themselves, and is comfort for the dying. Let the believers have their God–life and people are bad enough.

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      • Because it’s fun to rile up goofy little guys with 15 syllable Hindi names?

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      • It’s like they’re fresh out of Babel.

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      • Trouble with humanity’s getting rid of God is the tendency to replace him with us on the throne.

        If only.

        We elevate the subhuman and inanimate to idol status, like sports, politics, pop-star vapidities, and here especially, masturbating into latex gripped by the dryboxes of disaffected wigger club whores on permanent vacation from daddy. Kakocratic paganism.

        Idolizing man would be a step up. Hell, so would a golden calf. A civic republican religion would be better than our active worship of vanity and trivia.

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      • I may not always agree with them, but one “perk” I get from reading your comments Matthew King is that I often learn new words, such as kakocratic ( even though this particular one is not a real word since I found it at Urban dictionary )

        You and CH – although you each have your own very different style – are walking/talking thesaurus! ( or is it thesauruses? )

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      • Great catch, thanks. I was thinking of “kakistocracy.”

        http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kakistocracy

        Though I don’t see what’s so Urban Dictionary about “kakocracy.” The Greek works. Instead of rule by “the worst” (κάκιστος) it is merely rule by “the bad” (κακος).

        We need our Cypriot friend Embracing Our Femininity to confirm, but she is a good girl who’s busy celebrating Advent properly.

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      • Kakocracy makes sense.. it would be kakokratia in greek. It means what you said..rule by the bad, but not the worst.(kakistocracy);
        It makes sense definitely, I don’t know why it is not in the English dictionary.. but then again I don’t even know people who use such big words, even greek speakers.. most people I know who want to say kakocracy would just the “the government is malaki*s” hahahaha..

        Happy Christmas season everybody.

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      • Matt, wouldn’t that word get a Latin pass-through and come out in English as “cacocracy”, much like “cacotopia” is spelled?

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      • Right you are, Kyo, but officially-recognized “kakistocracy” uses both k and c for kappa.

        While we’re at it I don’t know where the final soft-c comes from in the last syllable either. Is that a Latinization or an Anglicization?

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      • Thanks Naomi, you’re a peach.

        Love your gravatar photo, too, by the way. Where is that engraved? (I might have already asked.)

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      • You’re the aloofest stalker ever, bruh.

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      • Matt, I think the final soft c in -cy is because the Latin words ending in -cia and -tia passed through French on their way to England. In most of the other, non-French-influenced European languages, these international words (of which international is one) get a -tsi- in that position; cf. Italian informazione, Russian informatsiya, German Information (spelling doesn’t show it) and a couple of others.

        Just a (semi-)educated guess, though!

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      • on December 11, 2013 at 8:00 pm Jonathan Edwards

        Matt,

        Have you ever read Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop?

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      • No, but I will add it to my list. What commends it?

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      • Subway Masturbator Award of the Day for Caustically Demolishing Sluts. Especially “permanent vacation from daddy” which bridges the space between diatribe, poetry and incoherence.

        “masturbating into latex gripped by the dryboxes of disaffected wigger club whores on permanent vacation from daddy. “

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      • You waxing dreary over service rendered to vanity is like watching Madonna lecture kindergardeners on the importance of sexual restraint.

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      • “Trouble with humanity’s getting rid of God is the tendency to replace him with us on the throne.”

        Tendency? Try ironclad axiom.

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    • Awesome. Just awesome.

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    • Yep. All they need to know is:

      “Beauty is gold, but time is a thief.”

      A woman can make a great deal at twenty-five, but at forty she’s facing spinsterhood or Omegaville. Rents are low

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  19. What I don’t understand is when I have shown desire towards women, would kino escalate, treat them well, etc I got much more positive responses in terms of dating than when I would play games. I have found (at least for me) that as long as I pass the jumbotron test, don’t act needy, lead her (tell her what to do/what I want), have fun and joke around, never apologize for escalation I can get a girl to want me.

    When I start playing games, like taking long to respond (when they are responding fast ), using ellipses game, try to neg them, etc the girl begins hating me stops responding to texts or doesn’t want to go out with me, etc.

    How do I account for this incongruence between theory and practice?

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    • Also, a few more things about what I’ve noticed. When I want to go one way and a girl another, I just continue walking in the direction I am walking and let her leave. I go about my business and notice that she comes back and starts looking for me. Is this dark traid behaviour?

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    • One explanation is you’re selecting women ready to step across the ‘beta bux’ rubicon, and they are looking for a nice boy to take care of them, their ‘alpha fux’ period having run it’s course. Though I in no way presume this selection bias on your part. It’s just one plausible explanation for your experience.

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      • The girls I date are between 18-21 years old. How they could have passed the alpha fux rubicon at such a young age is unknown.

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      • dude this generation is one of a plethora of cum dumpsters, receptacles and containers. the fatter ones are containers. 10 cockas by 18 is the norm. there’s in-congruence in the asshole side of your game – hence, don’t play it, though never stop telling them what to do, AND call her a sloot, in light conversational banter. it works – why? subtle hypnosis.

        werked for me~!

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      • Are they from a specific culture?

        If they’re from a place where feminism gets short shrift, that might explain it.

        Otherwise, you’re lucky.

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      • I date lots of Eastern European girls in Toronto (NA biggest feminist hotspot). They tell me that they think a man should be a man, and a woman a woman. I realized with these girls you can come on fast, but not too fast and you must never ever apologize for your desire.

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      • I date lots of Eastern European

        And now we have the answer… like a train that is never late every single EE I ever dated/banged has commented on how insanely vapid / immature Western women are, and they are right. 20 yo’s from there have the maturity level of late 20 / early 30 chicks here.

        If you are diving into that end of the gene pool buddy, never swim away. You are near to “peak pussy” and it is only downhill from your current position.

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    • Look at the items in your second sentence. J-tron / not needy / lead / be fun / never apologize. Sadly, there are millions of guys who can’t pull off any of that stuff. That’s game enough for many as they’re doing the exact opposite most of the time.

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    • you sound like a “nice guy” and the asshole game is just not you.

      you are getting sniffed out and worked.

      i bet your dates go better when you pay too, eh?

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm haunted trilobite

      😮

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    • @MercifulBoss

      Before you believe the “alpha” e-badasses that are telling you to stop being such a pussy, give this book a try:

      http://www.amazon.com/Models-Attract-Women-Through-Honesty-ebook/dp/B005EOTH24

      It’s been pretty well-regarded this past year in PUA and helps bridge the gap of which you’re alluding to.

      Ultimately, if you can be less gamey and still get the girl, then that is better. Correct me if I’m wrong, you may have gotten girls in the past when you were being your “normal” self. You prob also lost girls and didn’t get a lot of girls when you were your “normal” self too.

      Identify those good “normal” traits and stick with those (you mentioned some in your original comment.
      Lose those “bad” normal traits and understand your motivations/causes that bring them to the surface.

      And remember, there is no endpoint for this. PUA is a journey and you will always be a student. Right now, you’re prob going thru a phase where you’re finding out what the risk/reward is when you’re running asshole game (or trying to run it, hey). After you get enough feedback, you will decide to become a bit more centered and drop the stuff that’s not working.

      All good homie, what you’re going through isn’t that unusual.

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      • BTW, as you may find out in the book, a lot of the game that you’re running and failing with (e.g.: start playing games, like taking long to respond when they are responding fast , using ellipses game, try to neg them) would be considered “performing” as it’s a manifestation of your insecurities and isn’t a reflection of true confidence.

        If you’re naturally the guy who does all of the above-mentioned things, then cool. It will probably optimize your results. If you’re not however, then take a step back and introspect a bit.

        Most and if not all of CH’s tactics are superb in their own right. They give people a blueprint to follow which is superior than the one they were running before. However, a lot of pickup people will learn all these tricks and may even get laid but they don’t truly believe they have any value because it’s a mask.

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    • on December 10, 2013 at 9:08 pm North Vinlander

      You’re communicating high mate value effectively with what gives you success, and that’s what it’s all about.

      With the stuff that’s not working for you, the women probably just see you as acting like a weirdo and/or too difficult to interact with.

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  20. Having lived to be middle aged, it seems to me that it is the guys who are financially successful (even if not necessarily alpha personalities) who can get and keep their wives and the guys who can’t hack it financially (even if they have an alpha personality) tend to lose their wives. Bad boys may grow up to be working class stiffs and betas may be well paid doctors and lawyers.

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    • That was the actual point of Blue Valentine–the guy gets dumped when he doesn’t get a real job, not for being beta.

      [CH: that wasn’t the point of blue valentine. you gotta dig deeper, past the pr machine.]

      The problem is, they can divorce you and take half your cash, so it pays to have enough game to keep them interested–or marry an ugly woman, as Jimmy Soul suggested. For many betas I think this is the best option. If she can’t do better than you, she won’t be tempted to try.

      [options = instability. flip side: settling = joylessness.]

      That and at least some women will stay together for the kids–not feminist harridans, of course.

      [we need to return to the ancient laws that granted husbands a mistress or two to release sexual energy.]

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  21. There’s a movement afoot to make sex-by-deception prosecutable rape. I posted a paragraph and a link to the Yale law blog but it was moderated.

    In general, this is just one more example of “Protect me from what I want”, Jenny Holzer’s performance art meme from the 80’s. Be careful out there.

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    • How about childbirth by deception? Is “oopsing” going to be a felony?

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      • Of course not. That’s because a woman is only a victim of deceit until her needs change and she must dupe men in order to express her sexual autonomy. Heads I win, tails you lose: feminist maxim. (This post is sarcastic.)

        “Sexual autonomy” is the foundation of sex-by-deception thinking. It’s the idea that a woman’s autonomy must be held higher than any obligation to reason or reciprocate in one’s behavior, in order to keep the men caged and singing.

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  22. ”How does this study show that women are attracted to dark triad traits? It just says that two dark triad traits lead to “coaxing” strategies and that one leads to “coercive” strategies.”
    Could not put it better
    CH has definitely some right insights but the majority of his followers (YOU,YES YOU) suffer from major fanboyism.
    Everything is copy pasted into their brain.
    The article didn’t say a world about dark triad attracting women yet all commenters keep repeating it because CH said so.
    pathetic

    [CH: reread the post *carefully* and think about the problem with this line of attack.]

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  23. Obama selfie at Mandela’s funeral: sitting with Cameron Diaz?

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    • Beta black dude takes pic with blonde white girl celebrity? This is news how?

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      • I suppose it is news in part because it shows how un-serious Obama is, how he does not seem to care he is at a memorial, how he behaves like a teenager, how he has a certain lack of decorum ( there might be a better word, English is not my first language )…

        and I suppose it is news because Michelle Obama looks pissed off and probably jealous of the good looking white blonde Obama is devoting so much attention to or she might be pissed off because of what I said in the previous paragraph

        this is the memorial of a man who is ( according to the myth created with the help of the liberal controlled media ) a great man who has done great things ( actually he was deeply involved with terrorists who burned alive thousands of innocent by “necklacing” them with tires and gasoline, was caught purchasing truck loads of explosives etc etc and a man who’s legacy is a South Africa that might be free of Apartheid but is now one of the worse hell hole on the planet, is one of the murder and rape capital of the world, and has one of the worse economy on the planet )

        Obama should have behaved more “respectably”

        I don’t really like Michelle but I think she was right to be pissed off at him.

        Nothing seems to be sacred to Obama

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      • I don’t really like Michelle but I think she was right to be pissed off at him.
        ——————————————————————————-

        The dude is the president of the United States, she ain’t got a right to say or do shit!

        Why are you carrying water for this, on a good day “6”?

        Michelle Obama is the luckiest black woman in the fucking world, bar none.

        Do you hate bammy so much that you can’t even get this one right?

        You wouldn’t last a week married to that battle ax.

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      • why are you calling me “6”

        what does that mean?

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      • He means Michelle.

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  24. on December 10, 2013 at 1:16 pm Subarctic Hillbilly

    Despite my rather high scores on the Dark Triad index – I’m a raging narcissist, but it’s leavened by equally high measures of empathy – I consider myself, on the whole, a nice guy.

    However, that congenital tendency towards generosity, social cooperation and a sturdy sense of community doesn’t mean I can’t use my mildly sociopathic instincts for pussy slaying.

    It’s all in the sexual pre-selection. ALL!

    Meaning, you can be as nice as you want – I tend toward old-fashioned gesturing – opening doors, standing when a lady leaves the table, politeness, good manners, all instilled through my courtly redneck of a dad and my military service. In many men, this would be evidence of slavish betadom. In others, it’s an earned reward for a woman’s rejuvenating beauty.

    But having options outweighs many, even most, beta characteristics.

    The ladies in my rotation are constantly on edge about losing me to “the bitches and hoes.” My alpha demeanor, evidenced by my proud posture, imperious manner and sly smile, reap a steady drip of vaginal moistness. Any time I turn my masculine high-beams in a feminine direction, the results are predictable. The objects of my attention become flushed, flustered, eyelash fluttering, hair twirling, lip-licking horny nellies, and my main gals cannot wait to get me alone and gush all over my johnson. (Sometimes not even alone). I usually let them. I’m generous that way.

    It wasn’t always thus. Game works.

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    • “I’m a raging narcissist, but it’s leavened by equally high measures of empathy”

      Then you’re not a narcissist. You’re a dominant, disciplined man with very high self-regard. (And nice manners!) That’s a powerfully attractive combination.

      [CH: perhaps. but science and real life observation show that raging narcissists do very well with women, both short and long-term.

      ps any nawalt reply will result in a one-week banning. think before poasting.]

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  25. Strength always attracts women (it protective, ultimately) but the selfish, impulsive loudmouth who’d bang the coochie but not cross the street to protect them wears fatally thin evolutionarily but folk’re spoiled today– the sizzle, not the steak, sells for want of knowing any better. (Civilization, we’ll miss it when it’s gone and not one minute before.)

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    • Are you the same guy who posted the comment several articles ago knocking the belief that older, more experienced women are somehow more alluring? I believe the words used were that such a belief is “the trope, and tell, of the die-hard beta” — or somesuch….?

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      • Ben Franklin said as much, but he was looking for an easy lay.

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      • Nope. I liked fucking and getting great head from older women when I was younger because it was better nut-bust… now, whether they were more “alluring” is another matter.

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  26. Deviousness and cunning should be held in high regard. Shame how academia has attached such negativity to these traits, all for their sense of moral superiority.

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  27. The point is well taken, but when going south from the far north , the climate seems to improve , until that is one crosses over to the other hemisphere. . Assholes are often not always assholes. They are often very nice , buts its conditional. The typical nice guy is rarely if ever an asshole, and that really is the problem with betas.

    I notice the concept of morality seems to follow the ole one drop rule familiar in racial profiles that defines themselves only by purity, where the mulatto is rejected even if they are substantially of a certain race. A hero could save one thousand and murder one. We do not hold they they have a surplus of 999 lives. Thus it is important not to allow this moral perspective to poison our observations. Observe that many can be ruthless when it is appropriate, but more or less are able to be of a reasonable nature. They will do well. Few women ever have any lasting attraction for it continuously cruelty.

    But then there is that type of bitch who is completely out of control , that even she would acknowledge , that needs almost continuous humiliation. They are of the sort that seeks this out.

    So what we are talking about with game is to be a mulatto of assholery . Nice is conditional upon compliance.

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  28. OT: Chinese Man Jumps To His Death After Girlfriend Insists On Bying More Shoes

    http://news.naij.com/53941.html

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  29. Niceguys might feel better about their romantic comportment, but all that self-righteousness and a buck buys them is ten minutes of broadband-streamed fapping.

    10 minutes? You assume that fapping is somehow similar to sex with a woman.

    You must not assume. Because when U ass-u-me … blah, blah blah.

    Blastoff in 60 seconds or less. The average duration o porn movie is on in Amerika’s hotels is 12 minutes. As an aside, DC area hotels have the filthiest porn selection north of Rio Grande.

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  30. Best comment on the “Wingman of the Year” tweet:

    “Women are starfuckers ≠ men are pigs.”

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  31. ‘Wingman of the Year goes too… http://t.co/Cd1uFTIxu

    Anyone else feel hope for humanity after reading this?

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  32. “So, how exactly do you cultivate the dark-triad?”

    You do so at the death of your soul.

    Only the ignorant and self-deluded think there is anything admirable without those who cannot love and lack a conscience.

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    • re: triad butthext

      soul, love = ideological fabrications to explain biological circumstances

      conscience = only useful in high trust societies where denying the ego to conform to existent social norms actually yields (delayed) benefit to organism

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    • Dark triad != lack of conscience.

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    • and you have described woman.

      love is merely chemicals flooding your brain, bob. let it go.

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    • Bob Wallace

      “So, how exactly do you cultivate the dark-triad?”

      You do so at the death of your soul
      —————————————————————————–

      True, because for some people, that is the only way they can be reborn free from the burden of all the lies they tell themselves; the very lies which maintain the system.

      Once you stop lieing to yourself, you can stop lieing to other people.

      And once you stop lieing to other people, you are free.

      And they know it.

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      • “Once you stop lieing to yourself, you can stop lieing to other people.”

        And you can stop spelling “lying” wrong, too.

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      • Gimme a break, Im a n1gger dont cha know

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      • on December 11, 2013 at 5:48 pm Theodore Logan

        But you’re an uncle tom, so we can’t cut you any slack.

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      • You have exceptionally good taste in film for a darkie thwack, you SURE you are really black?? I’m sensing once again, reverse Clayton Bigsby… This is in my Top 3 of all time films. And you quote frequently from Pulp Fiction which is another winner.

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      • thwack is politically black, racially, she’s a mulatta.

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      • This the first time someone refers to Thwack as “she”…but maybe you are right…that could explain the inconsistencies in his/her comments

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      • thwack’s a long term paid operative who fell in love with us and is considering the best way to betray his masters.

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      • That is one other plausible explanation.

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      • Shawshank blew me away regarding frame.

        The key to Andy’s escape was that he was never really “in the prison”. If you can maintain ( or even expand) frame when all around you have become “institutional men” you are “go” for throttle up.

        Also, you gotta love the bible verse Andy left the warden; that book can be lethal in the right hands.

        *be advised*

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      • You were right Warden, Salvation Lies Within…

        I’ve known men who’ve endured suffering not far removed from Mr. Dufraine. Most of them broke and bended as most men would, under such direct pressure. This is why this film is in the top 3 for me. In my lifetime, I have spoken with wrongly imprisoned men. This may surprise you— most were ni66ers, on a bad lineup or false charges.

        In spite of some honky redneck judge throwing them away for 3-5 decades, they were surprisingly positive.

        It is the reason, that if we get our way, if the wheels come off of the FUSA, who will be my targets? Ni66as? Hardly… dead last on the firing solution. White liberals– #1, Heebs, #2… and the rest after that, a literal, crap shoot.

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      • I agree wholeheartedly on your Public Enemies list… traitors first and foremost… puppetmasters next… mop-ups last.

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      • Also, the things Andy said and did made more sense to Red after he escaped. It was like a revelation for Red to only fully understand Andy’s thoughts, speech and actions when he was gone.

        Maybe this was how the early Christian church got started?

        Red sensed and was worried that Andy was “leaving”.

        He left alright.

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      • Shawshank… hmmm… that’s the film with:

        1) Hypocritical bigoted Christians

        2) White prison rapists… along with the required squid ink in re a nod to the fey crowd (as in “They’re not homosexual either… for that you have to be human“).

        3) Kindly darky prison buddy.

        Check, check, and check. Had they thrown in a mention of the Holocaust, that would firmly cement its rating as the top movie of all time.

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      • Greg Eliot

        Shawshank… hmmm… that’s the film with:

        3) Kindly darky prison buddy
        ————————————————————————————————

        Greg, they had to use some stock movie conventions to make it more “accessible”

        According to the writer, Andy’s buddy “Red” was supoosed to be an Irishman, so yes, they did change the script for that; but, by making Red a black man it actually deepened the contrast between these two main characters, and made them even more unlikely buddies.

        Greg, there are some smart, and I dare even say wise black guys in prison. They didn’t enter that way but they BECAME that way because for the first time in their lives they don’t have too “hustle” to stay alive. If you have a long enough sentence, you can memorize the bible in the original Hebrew.

        How many of us have time to do that?

        Even if we did, our women would never let us get away with it.

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      • I’d like to punch Morgan Freeman dead center in that flat African nose.
        How about that for through the wormhole, mother fucker.

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      • African/Melonhead.

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  33. The central proposition of this post is borne out by simple observation. I marvel at the number of psychopathic types who have no trouble getting lovely wives, and also the corollary, the dismissive way ‘nice guys’ are treated by their spouses.

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    • Dark triad traits are best in short term but in the long run, it will bite you in the ass.

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      • False… “It is the slow blade that penetrates the (bitch) shield” – Gurney Halleck

        You can come on strongly dark triad initially, but total cessation of it will land you squarely in chumpville. You pour out just enough poison to keep her on edge and never 100% comfortable.

        “Familiarity breeds contempt”- You think this quote arrived in a vacuum? For an LTR a certain level of security / comfort is needed but if you hit the 100% mark you have failed to understand the concept.

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  34. This is a study about the self-reported intentions of men to engage in coercion. It shows that “dark triad” men report being more willing to put pressure on their targets. (Which means: it says nothing about how the target responds.)

    [CH: you are an idiot with reading comprehension problems. no shit the study says badboys are more aggressive about pursuing sex. the point explicitly made in the post is that the badboy ruthlessness combined with the female desire for badboys makes these kinds of men formidable pussy hounds. and, yes, follow the link in the post. there is plenty of scientific evidence that chicks specifically swoon for jerks.]

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    • Funny. This is the first time I was censored (half of my posit, including a link to a study where dark triad men reported less relationship experience was deleted?).
      Feels … weird, being censored.

      [CH: dark triad men don’t have less relationship experience because women don’t want long term encounters with such men; they have less (assuming they do) because the badboy MEN don’t want them.
      and yes, you will be dumped and manhandled like yesterday’s trash if you continue commenting like an idiot without the savant saving grace.]

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      • some feminist,

        My buttox are generating whopping quantums of searing gas. In words you can understand, that means ‘lotsa gas’.

        When the gas is released, it will be dense and creamy.

        At that time, you will be required to pay a $5000 fee, after which you will have the privilege of detoxing my buttox. This will be the greatest privilege of your life.

        Hurry up! The audience is arriving!

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      • whopping quantums of searing gas —> excellent!

        The one trick pony that still has a trick… I think it is the same reason that grown men can still laugh at fart jokes like young boys. Some things are just timeless…

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      • “you are an idiot with reading comprehension problems. no shit the study says badboys are more aggressive about pursuing sex. the point explicitly made in the post “: This blog has the very title “Dark Personalities Get The Girl”.

        Reading PK Jonason’s research on the Dark Triad, the preference of these men for short-term relationships is smaller than their lower experience in long-term relationships. Jonason also shows this is more because they self-select for failure by deliberately choosing abandonment due to their mate criteria. Dark Triad men also show more concern about Mate Poaching, ie., being cheated on.
        But there’s numbers involved, so beware.

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      • Statistics…
        The hobgoblin of feminists.
        I bet the sound of you and your bulldike lesbian rubbing your hairy legs together with glee like rugmunching crickets drowns out the moanings of the dying public lice.

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      • Hatriarch returns to form in the third 100.

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  35. It’s a rather sick revelation that will make you tempted to hate humanity. I don’t really blame guys who swallow the blue pill and fortify the walls of denial.

    My cousin is still with a guy with a prison record who smacks her son for not cleaning his room, calling him “sir”, et cetera. He didn’t like her dog and one day he took it for a “ride” in his truck. He returned sans dog and said the dog hopped out the window and ran away. She’s spent a lot of money on his speeding tickets and student loans while turning down much more suitable, non-psycho employed coworkers. He’s had about twelve “last chances” for being caught cheating on her. We’ve just given up saying anything about him.

    Our beta-male predecessors were wise. They created societies where non-productive freeloaders were allowed to starve and even minor criminal behavior was severely punished. Inventing marriage was the ultimate tool for curtailing hypergamy and protecting women from psychopathic men. They married them off at young ages, didn’t give them a choice of partners, and punished pre-martial sex. The system worked and dismantling it has had predictable results.

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  36. So when I approach one 30s wholesome mom at a wholesome volunteering thingie organized by a wholesome church with “I’ll fuckin’ stab you” posturing and verbal attitude, then proceeded to push aside her “Vacuum, schlub!” shit test with “I’m here to do the man stuff” and had her look/treat at me as a demigod for the rest of the afternoon, AND telling wifey the next day that she (wholesome mom)’d prefered I would have return instead.

    TL;DR, who should I trust, some anonymous nobody on the web or my own hamster sighting?

    P.S. SF also stands for SCIENCE FICTION

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  37. What’s hilarious is that I just walked past two chicks talking about how they LOVE assholes.

    Me: Wait, did she just say she loves assholes?

    Girl: She’s a girl. Girls are weird.

    LOL !!! It’s not *science* , yet the truth stands. Time to break out the nuclear negs

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  38. on December 10, 2013 at 5:24 pm Full-Fledged Fiasco

    O.T.: “During this period encourage also the immigration and settlement in the German states of non-German nationals, especially males.”

    Source

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    • Last time I checked, they were still speaking German, being on time, and eating sausages. They’re even the most successful country in Europe. They’ve got a Turk problem, but no worse than most European countries.

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      • Fun fact: The South African embassy in Vienna has proposed to name a street or square in the Austrian capital after recently deceased former South African president Nelson Mandela. Under consideration is a square in Vienna’s 1st district (= downtown) currently named after a former mayor of Vienna.
        Anyway, I still think that what is currently going on in Europe is an attempt by the German and French governments to turn Europe into a sort of ‘second coming’ of the United States.
        That’s why the common currency had to be pushed through with such ferocity, that’s why border control had to (theoretically) disappear, that’s why they need to import a non-European underclass, etc.
        Maybe Mrs. Merkel and Mr. Hollande (among others) would benefit from a stroll through Oakland, might wake ’em up.

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      • “The South African embassy in Vienna has proposed to name a street or square in the Austrian capital after recently deceased former South African president Nelson Mandela.”

        Liberal myth making of the highest order.

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      • If it were not for the astonishing ability of the left and their controlled media to create the most grandiose myths, no one would have ever heard of Mandela or Obama.

        Almost everything the main stream media says about them is a fabrication or an extreme embellishment of the true story.

        Both men are pretty much the opposite of what the media tells us about them.

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      • on December 13, 2013 at 5:31 pm haunted trilobite

        They now serve freedom fries in McDoh’s

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    • Strange… it would appear that France and Britain have gotten it far worse.

      Germany has a shrinking population precisely because it does not have a horde of groids ‘n muzzies squatting there. (The Turks at least are semi-civilized and don’t breed any more than the Germans do.)

      Now, if only the Germans would take Zombie Shane’s advice…

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      • Turks are as bad and primitive,as any other muzzies.Not somalians of course,but up there in the hierarchy of muzziness and the stone age enlightenment.

        Had experience living in a close proximity with this filth.

        And they breed quite within the regular muzzy rates=a lot.

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      • Yeah, I agree they don’t belong in Europe either, but they’re not as bad as the half-nigger moroccans. They’re about equal to the iranians, I’d say.

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      • You need to do some reading on Iranians. They had a very advanced civilization in the Ancient World until the industrial age. They invented chess for starters. They produced very advanced architecture and art, logistical systems, irrigation works, gardens, ran an efficient and effective bureaucracy etc. They are also the namesake for the term Aryan. Their national credo used to be “Ride hard, shoot straight and tell the truth.” .

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  39. Why the Dark Triad? Why is it helpful to success? Gee, what the “Light Triad” be then:

    Other-loving: you love everyone else and don’t place much value on yourself.

    Super-empathy: you worry about how others are doing and put their interests ahead of your.

    Super-agreeing: you always follow the rules, be honest and make sure any little success you achieve was done right and never hurt anyone else in the slightest way.

    I would argue the Light Triad would a pure recipe for failure.

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  40. If you guys think you have problems, I have them times twelve.

    Here’s my poem:
    Despite my name, I’m the nicest guy in the world.
    I can’t get a woman, I can’t get a girl
    Every time I see someone in a relationship, I wanna hurl
    Into the fetal position is where I want to curl

    And plus I’m black, so girls expect me to be a “gangsta”

    Fuck you white people, fuck girls, fuck this planet, im gonna go crazy

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  41. I’ve noticed that there’s an effort by some in the manosphere to paint women’s tingles as some higher, noble function that has a great purpose in human evolution. This is not true, women’s tingles lead to the end of the human race. There’s a reason every great civilisation has kept women’s vaginas under lock and key.

    This thinking primarily stems from the belief that women are wild animals that have an intuitive sense for what’s best for their species, but in reality they are domestic animals like dogs. Dogs are not like wolves, and when given the freedom to breed without guidance from man, they will create disease ridden, genetically inferior mongrels.

    Women are attracted to bad men who are bad for society, they need to be trained and controlled in order not to fuck up everything our ancestors worked for.

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  42. You white boys are fucking retarded.
    It’s not just the Dark Triad anymore
    It’s DARK TETRAD!
    You got add sadism into that bitch
    Slap up your hos and get off on it
    Then you’ll be a wild success!!

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  43. According to SWPLs, God is like CH:

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  44. on December 10, 2013 at 11:43 pm North Vinlander

    I think it’s sexy when girls make fun of people and talk to them condescendingly. Is that weird?

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  45. All societies and religions have evolved in part to control base, feral female instincts (“The Scarlet Letter”, anyone?). There was a reason for that — to channel beta males into productive family men for the benefit of society. Bad boys did not land men on the moon or explode the first a-bomb — dutiful betas did those things.

    The spread of feminist filth weakened these controls and allowed women to gravitate to their tingles and felons. Society will suffer as a result.

    I second Heartiste – poolside has never looked better.

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    • “Bad boys did not land men on the moon or explode the first a-bomb — dutiful betas did those things. ”

      The boys that did that, however incompetent in pussy matters, approached those issues (ABomb, spaceflight) with the same self confidence and libido dominandi PUAs do when approaching their targets.

      I don’t think there’s a beta path to success in anything.

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  46. […] Are you a psychopath? A schemer? A narcissist? How about a fully flowered sadist who loved to tear the wings off insects as a kid? Congratulations! You’ll do better with women than emotionally stable, sincere, modest and kind men.  […]

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  47. I absolutely HATE women (mainly for having everything handed to them) and I still can’t bring myself to to push them around.

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    • I love women…that is why it is so easy to push them around.

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      • I can’t see anything lovable about them. My stepmother had me on antidepressants for 10 years (I’m trying to get my Testosterone back, I didn’t know the extent of the damage before) and totally fucked up my brother’s life while my own father looked the other way. No one in my family even considered telling me that a woman would do that, of course, I had to find out on my own and then they expected me to pretend they wouldn’t have thrown my ass in the meat grinder if it suited them.

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      • What I’m trying to say is, I’m supposed to LOVE those animals?

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      • If you really want to get back at them…be indifferent to all of them.

        The line between love and hate is very small.

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      • That won’t send the message if I do it, I don’t have the options you probably do and nothing for them to steal.

        You sure you’re not just trying to keep me from becoming competition later on?

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      • Yes … BUT!

        Betaschlub whiteknight bullshit is not “loving” them.

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      • I consider that a more hatred of women…than being angry with the lot of them.

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  48. You know, I’ve been thinking about this. I’ve tried to bring to mind several of the “studs” from high school and college that seemed to fall backwards into bed with the best looking women. It dawned on me that none of them maintained their looks or weight past about the age of 30, none of them married and none have children or families that I can think of (except the one guy who is now dead who had an illegitimate daughter). The “dark triad” personality is a short-lived benefit.

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  49. The “dark personalities” I’ve known age earlier, don’t marry and don’t reproduce. Not a beneficial modus operandi….

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  50. And yet North American women, who are literally the most privileged animals in the history of the entire animal kingdom in the past 8,000 years, can do nothing but bitch and be nasty. It’s really sad if one thinks about it.

    http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/12/world/cambodia-child-sex-trade/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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    • They even complain that cupcakes are “decorated” in a way aimed at making women buy and eat them.

      I am not even kidding. I read an article about that about a month ago.

      Some women felt “oppressed” and discriminated against by the cupcake industry.

      North American women ( well ok about 95% of them ) are so self centered and so vain, we need a new word for it.

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  51. CH, re rebranding conservatives:

    Freedomists
    Anti-Communists
    EqualOpportunists

    ???

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  52. Women are terrible parents. They are simply large children who can do nothing right without the leadership of a man. And today’s law frees them to ruin society as explained on page 2 of the Bible.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/12/11/3811792/florida-mom-accused-of-inhaling.html

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  53. OT

    Given yesterday’s funeral selfie’s, is there a Dark Englightenment opportunity to leverage Michelle Obama’s probable rage or disappointment? We can’t advocate filing for divorce, but is there some sort of Berlusconi-ish (recall that photo when he charmed Michelle right in front of O) political cuckholding we could pull?

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    • All we can do is wait for 2016 and hope that a true badass somehow becomes the Republican candidate. One who will stand up to the “Tribe”/Bilderbergs and who will somehow use the military for good to take back our country.

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  54. Test

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  55. Dark Triad Alpha in Chicago?

    Bolingbrook man found guilty of sex trafficking
    Chicago Tribune

    A federal jury today convicted a Bolingbrook man of sex trafficking charges for using sweet talk and violence to coerce vulnerable runaways and drug addicts into lives of prostitution.

    After a weeklong trial, the jury deliberated about two hours before convicting McKenzie “Casino” Carson, 41, of four counts of sex trafficking, including one count involving a minor. Carson, who has been held in custody since his 2011 arrest, faces 15 years to life in prison when he is sentenced by U.S. District Judge Elaine Bucklo.

    The trial centered on the emotional testimony of four of Carson’s victims who told jurors about Carson’s methods of recruiting and grooming girls and young women, often using drugs and the promise of a roof over their heads to control them.

    Once he had the women under his thumb, Carson essentially ran their lives, posting sex ads on the Internet and keeping them in dingy suburban motels until it was time for them to meet “dates” for sex, prosecutors said. Carson then kept all or some of the proceeds for himself.

    To keep them in line, Carson would whip the women with a belt and rape them while the others were forced to watch, prosecutors said. Jurors viewed explicit photos of the women posted in online classified ads as well as detailed diary entries the victims were forced to make listing the men they had sex with and how much they were paid. All four victims also identified a size-40 belt that Carson used to enforce his reign of terror.

    Prosecutors said Carson used other control tactics as well. One victim who was 17 when she met Carson testified how he sweet-talked her into working for him, telling her she was beautiful and had a future as a model.

    “He made me feel good,” the woman testified last week. “It made me feel like I was important. That somebody needed me.”

    In his closing argument, Carson’s attorney, Charles Aron, urged jurors to put aside any disgust they might feel over the graphic evidence, arguing that the women were engaged in voluntary acts of prostitution and were free to leave Carson at any time. They chose to stick around because they wanted drugs and money, he said.

    But prosecutors said Carson’s victims were genuinely scared for their lives.

    “This was not a business relationship, but a relationship between predator and prey,” Assistant U.S. Attorney Bethany Biesenthal said in her closing argument.

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  56. CH, please post this FR and feel free to make fun of me and nominate me for Beta of the Century. I don’t give a fuck.

    So on 6th date with HB9, still no sex – we’ve made out twice with her seeming to enjoy it but putting the breaks on after like a minute – I take her to an awesome concert 3 hours away, where we stayed in a sweet downtown hotel. So obviously she agreed in advance that she was staying with me in the hotel, but she was a total bitch the entire drive up, saying “nothing is going to happen.” LMR or whatever you guys call it?

    Okay so had a great time at the concert, but we get to hotel and she immediately says she’s tired and crawls under the covers and says good night.

    My beta fucking self got pissed but basically pouted and did not try to touch her *at all* like to prove to her that I was not lying that she was safe with me.

    Was I supposed to rape her or what? Is that what she wanted? She’s a latina, 31, single mother.

    Also she is pretty mentally fucked up and is always crying about issues she has with the father of her kid.

    Was I supposed to throw the covers off and kiss her and it would not have been rape because it would have been clear that she wanted that?

    I’m telling you her anti-slut defense has been SUPER high our entire relationship. I ended up bitching at her on the ride home and made her cry and she said I’m the 2nd man she’s ever been in a hotel room with, the father of her kid being the other.

    The thing is she might actually be a close to a modern “near-virgin” as one could find today, and I would actually even wait for her (she’s BEAUTIFUL AND HOT) but if she’s this cold-fish now, I just know it would suck in the future too. I told her I don’t appreciate being made to feel like Pepe LePew the skunk from that cartoon.

    Background facts: I’m very handsome, probably an 8 as men go, good hygiene, take care of myself, have white, strait teeth, don’t have bad breath, and a good kisser and am good in bed (ex GF had at least one orgasm 95% of time), many girls have told me I’m “very good looking” throughout my life.

    Like perhaps this is my final lesson to stop with the one-itus – perhaps it’s not me and this chick is just fucked up. I’ve already tried to find more plates.

    Another thing…this girl flat out said from the beginning that she should not have gone on match to begin with and she’s not ready and it seems like she’s right and it’s not just the beta blowoff “it’s not you it’s me.” Again we have made out twice and I cooked paleo meal in my apartment and she slept over and she cooked for me in her apartment (makeout but she did not let me stay over because her 2 year old son was there), she says expressly that she likes me, thinks I’m hot, super attractive, super funny, etc.

    (or she did….I beta yelled at her and made her cry and now she’s gone)

    It fucking sucks to be a beta. I am determined to learn your lessons CH one of these days.

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    • I stopped as “single mother”.

      OK, I didn’t, but seriously, if you’re a male 8, what are single mothers even doing in your field of vision?

      Shun them. Shun.

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    • You don’t have to shun anything, my dude. Your life is your life. A lot of guys on here throw off blue pill shackles only to willingly take on more shackles from the ‘red pill.’ Ultimately, understanding the true nature of women is about being able to attract them for whatever life you want to live.

      You may not believe me, but I have experience with a similar type of girl 🙂

      ‘My beta fucking self got pissed but basically pouted and did not try to touch her *at all* like to prove to her that I was not lying that she was safe with me.

      Was I supposed to rape her or what? Is that what she wanted?’

      No. You’re supposed to dismantle the bomb. When a woman is attracted to you, she will fuck you. However, she will break her state several times along the way. When she says ‘we aren’t going to fuck,’ what she’s saying is ‘I’m feeling some tingles, which means we could fuck.’ Your job is to not get sucked into a logical bullshit debate about it. Be playful — pull her right back into that state by being funny: “whoa, quit trying to seduce me…what happened to romance? Already talking sex. Sheesh.”

      Also, as a general rule of thumb…if you’ve spent more than 10 hours of face time with a girl and you haven’t fucked her —- forget it. She is not that attracted to you. It’s quite possible to be good-looking, hot, whatever to a girl and her still not get tingles from you (remember, women rate 80% of men as BELOW AVERAGE in looks). In fact, it happens more than you think. Now, you can maybe try to turn things around….but that’s just my rule of thumb. Even if she’s a near-virgin who has never let anyone sleep with them after less than X number of dates/weeks/months — assuming that’s true — if she feels actual tingles, that will all go out the window.

      Another handy tip: whenever you hear a woman talk about how she needs to be warmed up to get in the mood, that’s a red flag that her partner or past partners does not/have not give(n) her tingles. Yeah, I said it.

      Moving on:
      ‘Also she is pretty mentally fucked up and is always crying about issues she has with the father of her kid.’

      She probably still loves the guy. Not all s/m’s are alpha widows tho. You just have to see how they discuss the father. If it’s with casual indifference and infrequent, then they don’t give a shit. But this seems more extreme and raw. So yeah…proceed with caution. This could be why she’s not putting out for you.

      ‘Like perhaps this is my final lesson to stop with the one-itus – perhaps it’s not me and this chick is just fucked up. I’ve already tried to find more plates.’

      Nothing is wrong with some degree of partner attachment. The big mistake betas make is investing before she has invested. After she gives you sex, you can give her more attention and love (not too much tho lol). In this case, I imagine that you have become her source of emotional validation or something. When this type of chick is into you, they will never bring up anything about their life outside of the two of you until way into the relationship/banging-phase.

      ‘(or she did….I beta yelled at her and made her cry and now she’s gone)’

      You invested too much. Unfortunately, once you fuck them, you can kind of do what you want and they won’t leave. That includes drama, yelling, etc. — as long as you still give them tingles.

      Be more aggressive and up front about sex. Get a makeout on the first date. Make her pay for her own shit until you’ve slept with her. Etc. etc.

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      • “She probably still loves the guy. Not all s/m’s are alpha widows tho. You just have to see how they discuss the father. If it’s with casual indifference and infrequent, then they don’t give a shit. But this seems more extreme and raw. So yeah…proceed with caution. This could be why she’s not putting out for you.”

        You nailed it. He’s an alpha asshole. She’s jealous that he has four 25-yo new GFs lol even tho he sends her creepy threatening messages accusing her of abusing their son. Bottom line is she is right that she is not ready and should not have been on match to begin with.

        Tried to go for makeout on date 1, in my apartment, on my couch, but she turned away (first time that ever happened to me in my life–plenty of times I’ve been too chicken to make the move, but this was the first time a girl turned away from me and gave me the cheek swear to god lol). She then apologized and was truly seeming to be nice and you might recall my FR from then about how I then played guitar for her until about 2 AM then drove her home.

        I actually think she is fucked up in this modern world and has only been with like 2 guys ever and she also told me the father went out with her 20 times before sex. And I said “and look how that turned out.”

        thanks for the advice bro

        CH please post

        [CH: you do realize that the more you say “CH please post” the less likely you are to get posted?

        ps slow it down. you already post way more than your sensible allotment.]

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      • Ya, while it’s true that those girls can be kinda chaste, it’s also true that they will string along a lot of dudes. They’re date sluts (srs). They have a lot of orbiters and emotional tampons. So just watch out. In this case, just cut her loose or pull back for awhile. She’s too emotionally fragile and trust me….you do NOT want break her heart while she’s like this anyway.

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      • I cut her loose. Took me 8 hours on POF (first time) to find suitable replacement for firm holiday party. This one seems to be FUN.

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      • Good for you. Pro tip tho — ditch the dating websites. Trust.

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      • @Scray I know “no excuses” but again, I’m divorced w/ 2 kids and I have my kids every weekend (every weekend). really really tough for me to hit the bar scene. and I do do day game, right downtown in my super cool city, but u know what? what I find on the street are uneducated immigrant trash from like Honduras…not even good latinas like from PR, Cuba, or Brazil. Girls who work as “greeters” at restaurants for min wage. I’m a professional. I don’t care really what they do but I have to have *some* standard for like taking a date to professional functions such as the firm Christmas party that I’m attending tonight (with an unemployed girl who supposedly has a B.S. in biology but formerly was working as a waitress). We are going to make up a story about how she’s a dolphin trainer or something if someone asks what she does. lozlzozlzolzozozoz.

        But I generally agree that anyone on a dating site is there for a reason: they have relationship issues. That is especially true of the women–mental issues. I honestly feel I have an excuse being 38 and divorced with 2 kids and being a *dedicated* father who gives them lots of my time and thousands of dollars a month to their mother that could be getting me a better wardrobe, car, outlook, etc.

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    • Best of luck with your continued improvement Grim

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  57. Re: the ongoing sex tape reddit —>

    This is proof that instinctively, women do realize that giving away the farm cheap devalues them — despite all the efforts of Jezebel et al. No man wants a woman who lacks self-respect. That’s why it’s not really the # of partners, it’s the circumstances and context.

    This response was money:

    You want brutal truth, i will give it to you.

    Your wife basically banged every guy right, left and centre as you stated in HS and College. After she was done doing that, she wanted to live the American Dream. A home, husband, kids and pets.

    Thus, she found you and pretended to be someone she was not. She knew that women like her are great for one night stand, but are not the ones that guys marry. She wanted you to be the provider after she had lived her life. Selfishly, she was not interested in your feelings and was only concerned about herself. I think you were spot on for asking for a Paternity Test for your daughter, and in my opinion you should carry through with this demand.

    The fact that she is only now willing to open up sexually after you have caught her red handed tells me how selfish she is. She is only interested in keeping her life stable while you provide for her. Since now you have rocked that stability, she is doing everything in her power to bring the stability back. She is using sex as a way to manipulate you into staying.

    I think you have made the right call in ending this relationship. Trust me, you will be a lot happier without her. There is no way you can go back from this with your wife. Your marriage is never going to be the same. Its best if you both separate amicably instead of creating enmity. You deserve to be with someone that satisfies you sexually, why settle for anything less? You only live once, make it count buddy.

    Best of luck to you

    It’s not the fact that she was a slut. It’s the fact that she deprived her husband of something she gave freely to others through deception. And it’s probably because she simply wasn’t attracted to him. How hard would it be to lie about the number of sex partners, but still be sexually open with her husband? Not hard at all. Poor guy. Seriously.

    Tho, it still could be a magnificent, beautiful troll.

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