Spot The Alpha

It’s not often we get a photo with two super alphas — representing different male factions — squaring off in friendly admiration rather than combative distrust. But here we have it with Putin and the leader of a Russian motorcycle gang whose name is too long for me to bother spelling out, swapping war stories.

“Comrade leader, I incapacitated five Chechyans last week utilizing nothing but a half-full bottle of wuuudka and a babushka’s hairpin. You would have loved to been there.”

“Alexander, my old friend, we have shared many a ride across the Siberian tundra, have we not? Then you know there is no need for me to tell you that the great shame is the wuuudka you spilled on behalf of the Motherland. Could you not have done the same with some of that Polska shit?”

“Haha, da da, good point, my dear friend!”

“Maybe next time I show you what makes great bear of Russian brother — a polonium tipped umbrella and a 20 year old gymnast!”

Strictly speaking, and in broad terms, Putin is undoubtedly the bigger alpha here. Putin ostensibly runs a country; Alexander the Biker runs a bike gang.

But alpha is often context dependent. Should he so choose, Putin has the fame and power and mystique to clean up with the ladies pretty much wherever he goes, but there are probably some biker bars where Alex is king of the hill and the girls will encircle him as aggressively or moreso than they will Putin. In the cramped quarters of a bar or street gathering, away from the media and cameras, these two men will be judged on more immediate male attractiveness criteria than their ability to pull off power moves in the Politburo.

With that in mind, this moment in time caught in a photo offers a rare glimpse of two fairly equal alphas in a pose-off. Putin, the shorter one, has a clear physical disadvantage in size that deflates some of his alpha allure. But Putin’s solid alpha body language — his ramrod posture, devious grin and straightforward gaze that avoids a betafying crane of the neck upward at the taller Alex — neutralizes his lesser stature.

Meanwhile, Alex’s posture and BL are just as alpha, and his face, too, is etched with a self-satisfied smirk. Interestingly, if you look closely at his eyes, it seems as if Alex is attempting a higher status coup over Putin — or is he offering a small gesture of respect to him? — by refraining from bending his head downward to look at Putin. Only his eyes travel downward to the direction of Putin’s eyes. The impression Alex gives is one of haughtiness.

The other bikers are focused on their leader, although that could just be because he is the one talking at the moment the picture was snapped. It could also be that these men, having been through more crazy shit with Alex, know the depth of his alphaness. Putin’s alphaness they know only from digesting media reports, and from his automatic status as a world leader.

It is that intimacy with Alex’s character that earns their deeper loyalty and admiration. There’s a lesson there.





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  1. Yeah, when I saw this picture and thought that there’s a post waiting to happen. Putin being physically overmatched here still comes across very dominant. The problem with this shot is that it’s a single frame of time. Are the biker dude’s hands raised in self defensive beta posture or is he gesturing during his anecdote (or is it that he’s just so tall, his hands look raised compared to Puty Poot)? Putin’s hands are down in an expression of non concern…there’s barely any defensive posturing there and opening one’s self to attack is an alpha thing. Too bad there’s no video because Putin’s posture is admirable, at least in that frame, for how his height and weight disadvantage are not an issue as he maintains I’m the boss frame. Of course, alpha is really about the bitches and it’s really no contest, from what I’ve heard about biker gangs (american, at least), the old school ones are basically open travelling harems, so biker dude gets primoris nox noctis pro totus puella. Putin, on the other hand, has to deal with a slightly more rigid social structure and get his bitches via hunting and gathering.

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  2. Russians and slavs, for the most part always seem to be a cut above the rest. I wonder what it is in their culture/genes that makes them so perfectly alpha.

    Also, never understood the allure of women to the name Alexander. I’m far from alpha and women frequently point out how they love my name.

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    • >>>
      Also, never understood the allure of women to the name Alexander. I’m far from alpha and women frequently point out how they love my name.
      >>>

      It goes all the way back to Alexander the Great!

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    • Russians and slavs have been conquered so many times by just about everyone that their gene pool is probably mostly marauding conqueror and almost no supplicating beta.

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      • Slavs don’t get conquered. They let the invader in and give him bread and women. A generation later, invaders are plowing the fields and thinking that they are Russian. Russians assimilate all.

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  3. Putin isn’t raising his head to look up at Alex, just his eyes. Is that more or less alpha, or just neutral?

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    • That’s why this picture is so interesting, both cats are definitely cool. The biker’s got his adam’s apple exposed while pooty doesn’t – probably because he’d have to arch his head in a supplicating manner. I am thinking that in talking to a taller guy, to stay in alpha posture, maybe tilt head sideways and look up? Or pootin has it right, why bother making eye contact and just stare ahead as biker stares at his dome?

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  4. Always stand tall, even if you’re short.

    But I really don’t trust the short guy with a beret. He’s either a future snitch, or just deeply envious of the leader. Can’t trust him.

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    • He’s got his work cut out for him with that walker.

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    • He’s using a walker, and appears younger than the rest of the people in the inner circle displayed in this photo. The guy to his left has a cane, so it’s possible the injured are present, but in alpha circles merely being hurt doesn’t elevate you to high status. Idiot marks from people using a scope for the first time in the military etc.

      His “snitch” body language may be attributed more to alpha toughness such as attending a public meeting with a walker while in extreme pain. My guess is naked ambition not envy is what gives him the intense gaze, if his place in the group is indicative of status and not his injury.

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  5. Biker Alpha looks like a frickin’ video game character.

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  6. For a breif nano second,seeing the hat and vest,I thought it was Mystery!!

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  7. I suspect the biker leader recognizes Putin’s stature and consequently respects him, while the opposite may not necessarily hold true. Putin is more or less a dictator in a capitalist-authoritarian state where democracy is simply a political coating held for the sake of appearance (this is not my opinion; this is the actual nature of Russia’s post-Soviet political structure). The Russian populace likes it this way—historically, it is a nation that has always prided itself on being led by a strong, dictatorial leader. Putin is a God in Russia—he is, in a perfect embodiment of Machiavellian leadership, both loved and feared. To Putin, the biker leader is a cad he could imprison at will; he is toy for amusement. And while the gang members are undoubtedly tough, they recognize the apex of alpha. In a dominance contest, if the gang was ever foolish enough to launch one, Putin would sodomize these underlings of Russian society. Even the best warriors tread lightly under the eyes of the king.

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  8. It is possible the the biker gang leader displays signs of respect and admiration towards his national leader, while the other is unlikely. Putin is more or less a dictator in a capitalist-authoritarian state where democracy serves only as a political coating for the sake of appearance (this is not my opinion, but rather the actual nature of Russia’s post-Soviet political structure). His political skills aside, Putin served and reached the leadership of the Russian secret service in his early thirties—his intelligence is matched only by his ruthlessness. The Russian populace likes it this way—historically, they have always been led by a strong, dictatorial leader (Czars, Lenin, and the most powerful of all, J. Stalin). Putin a God in Russia; to him a biker gang is nothing more than momentary amusement; he does not respect or like them since he does not respect or like anyone but himself (thus is nature of the super-alpha). The gang leader, while undoubtedly tough in his experiences and demeanor, recognizes that he stands in the presence of the apex of alpha. Even the greatest warrior would tread lightly under the eyes of the merciless king. There is no contest here. Putin wins. Not by knockout, but by willing forfeit.

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    • Yea, I’m sure Russians just loved grain requisitions and labor camps. All in the name of a strong leader.

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      • But that’s the thing – they did and still do. They think that it was required to keep their country strong against the Nazis, internal enemies (kulaks) and so on. The main reason for this is that they had no ‘intellectual cleansing’ period after the Soviet Union collapsed like the Germans did after WWII. And if you ask any Russian today, they want to see Soviet Union restored and consider all of the republics a threat (how can a few countries such as the Baltic states with a few million total population be a threat to Russia, I don’t understand).

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      • didn’t they allow the US to place missiles there? I read somewhere that US missiles placed in Poland/Baltics can reach the Kremlin in 4 minutes

        Hey, but we all know that America only wants peace, and never ever threat anyone… Only a paranoid commie would feel threatened by Nuclear Missiles four minutes away from his capital

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      • I just think they prefer a strong and seemingly competent leader.

        Looking back at the leaders of Russia over the last few centuries you can understand why so many are prepared to settle for that much.

        At least he isn’t deliberately starving entire ethnic groups to death or throwing dogs out of high windows or managing to lose an easy war through alcoholism and paranoia.

        When you understand that Putin is competing against some of the greatest monsters buffoons and perverts in history the Russian publics enthusiasm for him begins to look a little more comprehendable.

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  9. You, lads, might want to check with some Russians before reading those two.
    IMHO (I’m Russian) if Putin is an alpha than I’m a prima-ballerina of Bolshoi…

    Also, read E.T.A. Hoffmann’s (the Nutcracker guy) “Klein Zaches, genannt Zinnober”

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  10. “Putin, the shorter one, has a clear physical disadvantage in size…”

    Putin is a 6th dan black belt in judo and can fuck up 99% of the male population remotely his size.

    Just sayin’.

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  11. on October 14, 2011 at 5:23 pm That's cute, guys.

    Whoa.
    Whoa.
    Whoa.

    Wait a minute.

    See that streetlight in the background.

    It’s facing away from Putin, meaning he’s the most alpha. Or something equally as silly and over-analytical.

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  12. Looks like Kirk and Khan arguing about whose is the superior intellect.

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  13. Putin gets the award here.

    That guy is alpha to the core.

    Going up head to head with Bush Jr. in a alpha showdown:Putin wins.

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    • “Going up head to head with Bush Jr. in a alpha showdown:Putin wins.”

      Laura Bush would win that one.

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  14. @MattW-Good question:I never actually thought about that(head down but eyes up).

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  15. It’s like Darth Vader and the Emperor taking a meeting.

    One is clearly physically superior.

    One has supreme command.

    [Heartiste: There it is. The comparison I was looking for.]

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  16. “Klein Zaches, genannt Zinnober” (“Little Zaches, Great Zinnober”), a story by E. T. A. Hoffmann.

    Klein Zaches is a hideous dwarf born to a peasant woman. The fine lady Fräulein von Rosenschön (in reality Fairy Rosa-belverde) passes by and confers on Zaches a magic gift, by which he receives the credit for whatever gracious or pleasing thing is said or done in his presence. He is adopted by a pastor, comes to the university as Herr Zinnober, makes his way at the prince’s court and rises to power and affluence, all at the expense of the meritorious, whose merit he steals.

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  17. Here’s your “alpha” in ’94 –

    http://larussophobe.wordpress.com/2008/09/16/one-picture-is-worth-a-thousand-screams-3/

    You might also want to google Putin’s wife. The only pussy alleged “alpha” was getting before accidentaly becoming a president.

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    • It’s very hard to be a textbook alpha if you live in your mom’s basement. It gets easier if you have your own condo, money, and car. And it gets way easier if you own a palace or run a country.

      Putin may have become more alpha with power (and allegedly money), but still, the picture is too isolated a piece of info to judge.

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  18. Vladimir Putin is an alpha male at his core. I don’t think there’s many better examples than him. Putin is a 6th degree black belt in judo and a former member of the KGB. Aside from being a world leader and knowing that he gets respect by default, I guarantee a lot of his self confidence comes from the fact that he can kill people with his bare hands if he wanted to.

    Watch this video where he meets Obama and watch their body language. It’s obvious Obama is fairly unnerved. Obama was saying not-so-nice things about Putin before hand and he came out praising Putin afterwards, while Putin laughed at some of his comments. Putin wasn’t necessarily rude or disrespectful, but his nature is very intimidating. Both men run very powerful countries and are alpha in their own right, but there’s no making up for his true self confidence.

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    • Wow, watch it muted.

      Putin’s body faces forward, Obama’s body faces Putin.
      Even when seated, Putin faces the front and Obama faces Putin.
      Putin sits relaxed, Obama leans in and is attentive towards Putin.
      Putin’s feet are spread and point slightly outward, Obama’s are close and pigeon-toed.
      Putin’s hands are open and relaxed, Obama’s are clasped together.
      Putin glances over at Obama only when he is finished speaking.
      Obama is attentive to Putin’s talking and nods repeatedly (submission).
      Putin seems to listen off-hand, and when he does nod, he nods only once.
      Putin’s few hand gestures seem dismissive, Obama’s seem more explanatory.

      Definitely clear who more naturally dominates, and who does not.

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    • on October 17, 2011 at 12:07 am the_alpha_male

      “I guarantee a lot of his self confidence comes from the fact that he can kill people with his bare hands if he wanted to.”

      One of my friends and old training partners in BJJ/MMA once said to me: “A lot of people have large vocabularies and can use big words in sentences, but it doesn’t change the fact that i could murder a man more than twice my size and strength with nothing more than my bare hands”

      THere’s a lot to be said about real combat training. It gives you a self assuredness and confidence that can’t be faked.

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  19. The Russians like savages for leaders because they are (barely) a Tier 2 country (on the 7 point scale)

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  20. Taller men always start with an advantage, but Putin shows that rock-solid confidence — in his case, probably both confidence in his own physical prowess (widely-reported badass) and his social status — is enough to hold his own in the “presence” competition. Good lesson there.

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  21. on October 14, 2011 at 6:59 pm Half Canadian

    Putin looks relaxed. The other guy looks like he’s on his guard.
    This is where reputation takes you. Everyone knows who Putin is. I doubt if 1/5th of Russia cares who the other guy is.

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  22. on October 14, 2011 at 7:05 pm Chris from Dublin

    Great picture

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  23. Like I always say … you can analyze the shit all you want (and it’s fun, love reading it), but at the end of the day you can’t fake it.

    Biker dude can have you killed just with a casual finger pointed in your direction. His dudes will cap you in a heartbeat. Putin? Can we say “nuclear arsenal”? No matter how confident you stand, how much you read this (pretty awesome) blog, if you want to climb the ladder of alpha in all its nuances, better go learn some serious ass kicking and practice it in back alleys, make a zillion dollars, bang supermodels.

    Having a fat bank roll helps, too. Here’s my advice on getting a $100k+ job that you’re not qualified for, and not do any work while getting paid:

    http://two.cedonulli.com/2011/10/how-to-get-a-100k-job/

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  24. on October 14, 2011 at 7:26 pm The Alchemist

    Putin’s combover is beta

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  25. Obama is not Alpha. He’s a thinly disguised down low Black guy who does whatever his harpie wife and chief advisor (Jarrett) tell him to do. No wonder he was intimidated by Putin.

    But Putin would not dare pull that tude with Hu Jintao. Who would in turn eat him for breakfast.

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  26. Biker dude is a physica Alpha, and possibly a natural one. He will be able to dominate in those areas such as biker bars, bike runs, drug running, prostitution and the like.

    Putin may or may not be a natural Alpha, but he strives to be Alpha always. He has an Alpha will, and belongs to the fake it til you make it category

    Biker dude is very dominant over a thin slice of society. Putin is dominant, but less so, over a much wider swath.

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  27. Obama isn’t alpha. Not at all. He’s almost a textbook example of a beta trying too hard.

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    • My thoughts exactly, but about Putin. (Obama is sub-beta. He has publicly wrestled with his racial identity, his behavior is dictated by third-hand ideology and his dreadnought amazon of a wife [whose “strength” and physical size reinforces said ideology], and he has made a life stumbling upwards, acquiring the trappings of power through circumstance and white guilt.)

      Putin is a try-hard.

      Yes there is a degree of showmanship necessary for a world-leader — the optics of manliness.

      But his photo-ops are so stupendously over-the-top

      http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/09/vladimir-putin-action-man/100147

      that it undercuts his status by sliding into clownishness. Really, what more manliness must a man prove than being the extraconstitutional leader of the world’s largest country for more than a decade?

      An alpha’s reputation of accomplishment precedes his presence. His aura (posture, clothing, demeanor) only reinforces the substance of the essence unseen, emblems which never contradict his status. If one is engaged in more and greater feats of attempted alpha display, it’s likelier a sign that one is not internally at peace with the patent obviousness of his outward status.

      As a simple lesson in alpha optics, however: point taken.

      As a lesson in the widespread misapprehension of what constitutes the essence of alphadom, look no further than the slavish slobbering over Putin’s black belt and bear wrestling and other false positives cited by the alpha-mime peanut gallery in the comboxes.

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  28. You realize that all of Putin photo-ops are staged, right?

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  29. Speaking of excellent video analysis, here is one of my own of the Atlantic author who wrote the verbose diatribe about her continued spinsterhood:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789//vp/44902164#44902164

    As with all life, the devil is in the details:

    1) All of the men at the table, except one, are white knighting to an extreme level. One threatens to call security on the man who is hitting on the the female Atlantic author. The player is the only man holding the torch for men. The other men are constantly attacking and undermining him.

    2) The newscaster woman is violently jealous of the Atlantic author’s relatively youthful looks (compared to hers), which puts her in an incredibly irritable state. She deals with this by attacking the men at the table and men in general. She tries to divert attention to herself by any means necessary, such as random insults and one liners.

    3) The Atlantic author is an incredibly high testosterone specimen of a female. Her mandible shape is so pronounced that she was probably exposed to more testosterone in utero than the majority of men. Hence, she is unable to commit and pursues sexual variety similar to an unrestrained male cad. This defining characteristic explains her entire personality, and why we can actually believe her when she says “I’m not worried about the biological clock.” This is a female with male impulses. She likely played aggressive contact sports growing up, enjoys sex physically rather than emotionally, and has no desire to have children.

    All of this can be gleaned with a trained eye. This woman is not the norm, and nor is she proper mating material for any man desiring to start a family. Her impulses are too strong to control, and would lead to disaster. Avoid committed relationships with such women at all costs.

    Furthermore, the rise of high testosterone women is quite likely related to the selection bias many females have for high testosterone males. Testosterone production is not a complete Y-linked trait, as we can clearly with the Atlantic author.

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  30. Actually Putin has the size advantage; he is a master of Judo.

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  31. Of the biker gang members, who is more alpha? The one with the granny walker, or the one with the neon cane?

    Sort of the Jerry’s Kids version of outlaw bikers.

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  32. Becoming dictator is metamorphosis.

    Besides, he’s been massively coached by image experts — who else?

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  33. Hey Heartiste: This has got game written all over it.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20120123-10391704.html

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  34. on October 15, 2011 at 12:57 am Dr. Van Nostrand

    Winston Churchill didnt lose his virginity until he was 34 when he got married.According to Heartiste’s logic he might as well be a beta.

    [Heartiste: Although late life virginity is a leading indicator of betaness, there are exceptions. For instance, an alpha male who *could* bang a lot of women, but for religious or work reasons decides not to.]

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    • on October 15, 2011 at 1:54 pm So, Do the Zonk

      Churchill was an Alpha by every measure, as was Teddy Roosevelt. They were hard, commanding, driven men. But both came up in a time when male self-command and sexual self-denial were promoted and respected. Different times, different standards.

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      • on October 16, 2011 at 9:12 am Dr. Van Nostrand

        Actually even now in Anglo American cultures, sexual restraint and a spartan aesthetic are considered the traits of an able leader as opposed to in continental Europe where Sarkozy and Berlusconi are expected to tap that young pussy despite marital status!

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      • Maybe he just couldnt stomach English women. PUA’s seem to bash them relentlessly. Now if the old boy had been posted to Thailand…

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    • on October 16, 2011 at 9:07 am Dr. Van Nostrand

      Ok, as long as the labels are assigned in context of priorities ,era and culture.Thanks for the clarification.

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  35. Putin has an army behind him. Of course he’s alpha.

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  36. If you wish to rule a bunch of violent nihilists, be as alpha as you want.

    If you wish to rule a nation, some compromise is required.

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  37. on October 15, 2011 at 3:44 am greatbooksformen GBFM

    heyeyey roisysyyys!!

    heartristye i mean!!!

    i have designed drinking mugs for alphas like me you and putin !!! lzoozzlzl:

    http://www.cafepress.com/greatbooksformen.584117745

    “woiuld u drink out of
    this mug if it had lostas
    cockass gizzializzall i it?
    so why r yu kissing
    ur girrrilfirend? zozoloz
    2 tatset da GBM!!
    zlzolzlozzlzoozolozoz
    mm mm good!”

    [Heartiste: Good one!]

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    • on October 15, 2011 at 12:23 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

      thankxxx!! lzozlozoolzlozlo

      i was inspuired tot make the mug for putin because he looks like he puts it in hence the name putin as he puts his losta cockas into all sorta womeeoemz who likne up for a good putin takin assoccking puttin it in and out in and out fast that neoocnc can monetize the debt and tape an asscoking session secerteley without agirlths conthen so that women will publish and pormotes him and repeate his lies about his height like tucker maax thymes iwth goldmasn sax lzozozl lzozoozo

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  38. Nice.

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  39. I would have like to see Putin and the Biker play out like this

    Tyrion Slaps Joffrey For 10 Minutes To Achilles Last Stand

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  40. and I must add a quote

    Shaggar: How would you like to die, Tyrion, son of Tywin?

    Tyrion: In my own bed, at the age of 80, with a belly full of wine and a girls mouth around my cock.

    – Game of Thrones

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    • I rarely watch TV anymore, but that show is alpha as fuck.

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      • I was so amazed that anything from the fantasy genre in the 21st century could be as interesting and MASCULINE as that show.

        Explains the female viewership, almost every type of eye candy from dusky Barbarian warlord to dutiful yet lethally brutal white knighter and even an evil blonde incestous version of Lancelot is on display.

        All highly intense poweful ambitious men with giant swords intriguing, politiking and sometimes hacking the crap out of each other while the wimminzfolk look on eagerly.

        Whats not to like? Shows that play to Archetypes are popular for a reason.

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      • Yes, even the dutiful white knighters have mistresses and bastard sons!

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  41. Those slavs… I usually think that american born or russian/ukranian born men raised in america have a really good balance of alpha/beta characteristics when it comes to dating. They might be considered beta because they are very protecting, loving and caring once they really care for you (a lot of calling, date planning, cuddlin blablabla), but a)they don’t take shit from a woman (it’s impossible to shit test them) and b)they don’t pedestalize women.

    My sampling again might not be very extensive, but it’s lovely that they don’t have to fake game, they’re just loving and extremely confident.

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  42. What’s with the tits on the taller guy. Looks too weird to be muscular pecs. Nice rack for a woman though.

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  43. Off-topic, but have you guys seen this? It’s hilarious.

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  44. on October 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

    lzozzlzozlz

    kay hymowitz and bill beenenet want this man to “MAN UP!!!! and pay alimonies and respect cheatin whoeoroeoeosozoz lzozlzlz lzozlzlzzozo

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  45. Let’s not forgot that before he became the political leader of Russia, Putin was a judo black belt & a trained KGB assassin.

    Putin can toss the biker on his head & strangle him with his bare hands.

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    • on October 16, 2011 at 9:38 am Dr. Van Nostrand

      Judo is not really a MA that is known for lethality like kali silat ,wing chun or krav maga.
      What the latter disciplines lack in elegance they make up for in sheer force and economy of movement.
      Judo pretty much went out of its way to hand its balls over to the Olympic Comittee so it could be considered a sport.
      I think too much is made of Putins time in the KGB, the media makes it sound like he was Sp Ops CIA or cold blooded Mossad agent.He was just a mid level functionary and analyst.Now sure, his rise to power would make an interesting story but it would involve more closed and covert tactics rather than an open coup.
      I would say his life before he became President was more beta than alpha ,I suspect he is conscious of that which is why goes out of his way to cultivate an ultra macho persona.That PR campaign is obviously a success because he built up this image from the getgo.
      Having said all that ,I think it is very alpha AFTER he became President particularly in the way he dealt with the Chechnyans (the toughest Muslims on earth) . I think Spengler best highlighted his and Bushs results when dealing with Muslim thugs.Bush is reviled around the world for ridding the region of a tyrant and bungling the post invasion political and security landscape with dreams of a state whose power bound by a representive govt.While Vladimir Putin who devastated Chechnya(who had a far better case for national self determination than the Baathists),didnt bother with silly nation building and democracy ,and turned the entire Chechnyan political elite into his sock puppets, is feted by the King of Saudi Arabia no less!
      When dealing with Muslims-only alpha bravado will win you respect.Note how Israelis were feared yet spoken of in admiration by Arabs before Oslo 93.OBL to the day he died respected the brutal Russians despite their psychotic rampages in Afghanistan rather than the U.S army which busies itself with the important task of distributing candy and toys.
      Memo to all cons(paleo and neo) ,its better to be respected and feared than liked or loved-in fact like in Game ,if you recieve the former, the latter will follow.

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      • I would not think of touching the old guy. Judo covers two of the three phases of combat (close quarter standing and groundwork). When you are discussing ‘lethality’, that is either blunt trauma to the head or a choke. Throws do take longer to learn than striking, but at his level, he has the ability to put an attacker on the ground at whim with the weight of a piano on the point of impact. Most throws can be modified to put the impact point on the head. All chokes are used, even in ‘sport’ Judo. When comparing fighting styles, a better question is “how many seconds does it take to either stop the fight completely or cause lethality?” It is certainly not perfect, but I would bet on a Judoka taking out most of the styles you mentioned.

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      • on October 19, 2011 at 4:37 pm Dr. Van Nostrand

        I should qualify my remarks somewhat about Judo.I dont doubt Putins judo skills can open a can of whoop ass on mid experienced krav maga or wing chun practitioners.
        My point was that only experienced judokas can take on even just amateur wing chun or km students as I mentioned in another post,learning to be effective with Japanese arts in general is a notoriously slow process.
        That said MMA obviously owes a great deal to Judo/Jiu Jitsu and that aint nothing!

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  46. Fascism is so alpha.

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    • Well kinda yeah.

      People have written a hell of a lot of books about how the nazis tapped into the masculine ethos to attract young, angry men to their side.

      Godwin much?

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  47. Question:

    If dominance is alpha, and alpha is attractive – why do I see so many police officers and military guys with fat and ugly chicks?

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  48. Putin looks like Picard in that picture the way he stands and carries himself in that moment. Definitely alpha.

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  49. WIng chun & krav “knee them in the balls” maga? Seriously?

    An experienced judoka would drop an experienced wing chun or krav maga practioner on their head & strangle them.

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    • on October 19, 2011 at 4:31 pm Dr. Van Nostrand

      WIng chun & krav “knee them in the balls” maga? Seriously?

      The last time I checked ,getting kneed in the balls really hurts.If it doesnt effect you any, then bravo!
      I remembered saying that the arts are not known for their elegance but rather economy of force and direct,simple tactics

      “An experienced judoka would drop an experienced wing chun or krav maga practioner on their head & strangle them.”

      Ah,”experienced”,thank you for proving my point.It takes years(minimum 1.5 years) for a judoka to be effective in a real life hostile situation.This is the trouble with all Japanese arts,be it Karate,Kobudo or Aikido.

      All it takes to be effective in Wing Chun or Krav Maga is barely six months.

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  50. Look at the guy behind the bikerdude’s neck. Why does his head look like a Terrance & Phillip puppet?

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  51. Putin definitely holds his own. You can see his body language in this video:

    BTW, the dude’s name is Alexander “Surgeon” Zaldostanov, and the crew is called Night Wolves. They’re kind of like Russia’s Hells Angels in terms of being a household name, but minus the criminality – the Hells Angels (who btw have a few chapters in Russia now) would definitely rank more alpha.

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  52. Cracked has recently written an article about crazy Putin propaganda and it left me speechless. The man has an all-female religious sect dedicated to him that claims that Putin is the reincarnation of saint Paul and prince Vladimir. Also the fellow that manages to convince 1000 women to let him touch their breast because he just had shaken Putins hand is just brilliant. Talk about a situational opener.
    (http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-hilariously-insane-examples-vladimir-putin-propaganda/)
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    But for Frolova, Putin — a portrait of whom she keeps in her bedroom — is the embodiment of a Russian tsar.

    “He has the soul of a tsar. It’s not by chance that he is now president,” she sighed.

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  53. Who is the Alpha here?

    Obviusly Putin.

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  54. Excellent breakdown of Alpha body language here:

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  55. David D’Angelo also gives a very good analysis in this clip

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  56. […] our recent discussions on Putin, CH writes: It’s not often we get a photo with two super alphas — representing different male factions — […]

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  57. Yeah Putin is a man’s man..from hunting wolves in the ice and snow, to throwing dudes around in Judo, training in Combat Sambo, knowing how to handle various weapons, hanging out with Outlaw bikers…he is a true Alpha leader. Compare that with our Newport smoking, pencil necked swindler of a president.

    Whoever made the comment that Putin could throw this guy on his head I say maybe. Most of the Russian motorcucle clubs that are serious recruit from the Military or from other underground groups who quite often also know at least something about fighting.

    This was a group called the Black Wolves that Putin was visiting and there was much fanfare and posturing for the cameras, however Putin has been spotted riding alongside Russian Outlaws MC and Hells Angels MC as well. Def not your boyscout troop.

    PS – To the fucking moron that said the Russian biker has tits. It’s the way the leather vest is curving outward. Try not to show your obvious stupidity next time you post. If that was an attempt at humor…keep working on it.

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  58. Putin > Berlusconi

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