Brits Voted Ugliest Women In The World

Well, no surprise here. Have you seen Brit chicks lately? Fuggin fat, pasty, unfeminine, alcoholic tubs. An empire is no better than the aggregate beauty of its women, and an empire wheezing its last breath is characterised by this:

“Oh but she has such a pretty face”… for me to render into soap!

It isn’t just the fatness and ugliness (but I repeat myself) that is repugnant, but the exultation of the depredations visited upon the female form to a moral and aesthetic imperative. Such weak-minded thinking is best observed in this comment left by a reader to the article:

How thoroughly predictable to see a story about drunken and anti-social Chav behaviour twisted as usual into being all about appearance – and in particular weight and size. There are plenty of quiet, well-behaved bigger women who never touch a drop let alone would consider behaving in a loud and obnoxious manner, just as a good proportion (probably the majority, in fact) of those falling out of nightclubs vomiting and fighting the police are thin, but don’t let that get in the way of yet another opportunity to demonise and stereotype fat people.

Fatness is a leading indicator of character deficiency. Fat apologists are heralds of ugliness, lies, loneliness and death. The Chav and The Chunky and their watery-eyed advocates are nothing less than the degenerate bilge of an enfeebled, dying society predictably coughing up one rationalization and excuse after another for its self-inflicted failures and loss of nativist pride.

Meanwhile, America’s models are getting manlier-looking by the day while her SWPL men get womanlier and her lower classes get fatter. In that international survey linked above, America was voted to have the second ugliest women, followed closely by German frauleins.

Which brings us to….

Maxim #102: The hottest babes will not be found in prosperous countries, but in countries on the verge of prosperity. The world’s ugliest women will continue to be found in backward primitive societies.





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  1. Speaking of Britain’s Ugliest Women… you have to see this:

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  2. on September 4, 2010 at 6:05 pm theobsidiantroll

    Just wanted to be clear about something you wrote:

    Fatness is a leading indicator of character deficiency. Fat apologists are heralds of ugliness, lies, loneliness and death. The Chav and The Chunky and their watery-eyed advocates are nothing less than the degenerate bilge of an enfeebled, dying society predictably coughing up one rationalization and excuse after another for its self-inflicted failures and loss of nativist pride.”

    So, does this apply to the following people:

    Chris Christie (messed up 400 MILLION DOLLARS in grant money recently)

    Next Gingrich (do we really need to recount this guy’s marital faux pas?)

    Glenn Beck (no one’s gonna accuse him of being svelte)

    And of course, Rush Limbaugh (he’s bucking for Liz Taylor’s record of spouses)?

    If so/not, why?

    [Editor: While fatness is a character flaw, it can be compensated for by other postive character traits. In the examples you gave, those men have smarts, vision, ambition and talent. And fatness is less of a hit to a man’s sexual and societal worth than it is to a woman’s.
    Btw, from what I’ve read, Chris Christie is the best thing to happen to NJ since Thomas Edison.]

    Thanks (and thanks also for posting up all my replies to your questions to me the other day. Very honorable!)

    Holla back

    O.

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  3. The British female underclass has always been fairly ugly. The upper-middles are a different story. Lots of slim, beautiful women in that stratum due to post-war social mobility concentrating the talent.

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  4. roissy, you honestly have no idea how bad it is. you know that thesis you sometimes come back to about how growing obesity was one of the causes behind the rise of game? as far as england is concerned, ramp every factor in that whole soup mess up times a THOUSAND.

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  5. that anyone on earth believes aborigines are modern homo sapiens sapiens amazes me.

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  6. Really wondering how the girl pictured won Ms. ANYTHING. Not that british girls are nice-looking, but I’ve seen ones that are at least hotter than *that*, and it wasn’t even at a beauty contest or anything.

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  7. Britain, America, and Germany as the 3 ugliest countries of women in the world? Srsly? Sounds like just more of the typical whitey-bashing of the media to me. Who voted on this poll, anyway? How about Sudan, Mongolia, and Vietnam? I could name you a dozen countries with women uglier than those in the U.K. and the U.S.

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  8. Regarding fatness being an indicator of a character deficiency: I think there is something to that. I’m thin and went out on one date with an overweight woman once and couldn’t believe how disturbing it was to see the binge eating. There’s a reason behind putting on so much weight.

    Do primitive men find primitive women attractive?

    [Editor: They do until they’re exposed to a better sample.]

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  9. on September 4, 2010 at 6:34 pm gunslingergregi

    If those are examples in picture I don’t think so bad looking of course I can’t see the legs.

    Looking better than picture from other day I know that.

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  10. on September 4, 2010 at 6:37 pm gunslingergregi

    Actually looking like some woman I would like to fuck.

    1st and third.

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  11. on September 4, 2010 at 6:38 pm gunslingergregi

    Horrible picture as example. Just showing off for camera having fun big deal

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  12. You misunderstand the term “chav.” Chav is a derogatory term for the British underclass, kind of like “trailer trash” would be in the US, except there are some definite differences in how the underclasses express themselves. Plenty of women who could be called chavs are likely attractive, if also often drugged-out or otherwise unhealthy (I’m obviously not saying this is true of all poor brits, but most of the group the term applies to).

    Two other points. Having lived in the UK, I’d say that facial ugliness is actually a more frequent shortcoming. I saw almost no white women with pretty or hot faces in London. Your rather merciless attitude towards extra weight on women is by no means universally shared, but distaste for ugly faces is pretty universal.

    Also, interestingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the British empire was successful precisely *because* British women are unattractive. It gives men an incentive to join the navy and try to nail hot third-world chicks rather than deal with the local talent. It’d be hard to prove, but it would not surprise me if this actually were a significant factor behind the success of the British empire.

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  13. They key thing here is the linked article is talking about British women abroad.

    People in certain Eurpean countries, especially those that are frequented by lower class British holiday-makers, have an awful opinion of us. The rest of the world, which is visited more by middle classers, brits leave extremely good impressions.

    Extrapolating this group to fit all british woman is rather unfair. There are plenty of very attractive british women, they’re just not on holiday on some awful spanish island.

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  14. on September 4, 2010 at 6:43 pm gunslingergregi

    This poll was a) based on 1770 votes at last count and b) the possible answers were only 6, these being Spain, Germany, the US, the UK, “Eastern Europe” and Turkey.

    It can barely be considered a poll of any relevance.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308985/Female-Brits-abroad-branded-ugliest-world.html?ito=feeds-newsxml#ixzz0ybTkPQWU

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  15. on September 4, 2010 at 6:45 pm gunslingergregi

    I don’t think it is the woman so much because there where certainly beautifull woman I dated when younger but it is the divorce laws that any man with common fucking sense will not marry one of them under.

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  16. on September 4, 2010 at 6:47 pm gunslingergregi

    but then yea the equality shit and the actually not being treated equal and them being all powerfull when dealing with your nuts unless you are willing to murder them is also unappealing.

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  17. Anon,
    Fatness is something women can control, facial beauty or lack there of they can’t. CR is very reasonable about this.

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  18. on September 4, 2010 at 6:49 pm gunslingergregi

    Turkish guy in kuwait showed me picture of his wife he got as a virgin and the dude was making jack shit for money. I got to say I was impressed. he he he

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  19. “Extrapolating this group to fit all british woman is rather unfair. There are plenty of very attractive british women, they’re just not on holiday on some awful spanish island.”

    the few attractive girls benefit so tremendously from the dead competition it’s not even funny. if american men think they have it bad, they’ve no idea. your game has to be psychologically dominating — a blistering assault on any group’s emotional sensibilities. i’ve an inkling that most men would go celibate rather than plumb the depths their brit brothers do.

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  20. I’m a bit confused is that a picture of Nicole, Chi Noir or Fire Power? It does look familiar.

    “Fatness is a leading indicator of character deficiency.”

    Very true. Nothing give shape to irresponsibility, delusional thinking and loser lifestyle than an obese ugly woman.

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  21. on September 4, 2010 at 6:56 pm gunslingergregi

    Well terra my millionaire boss in iraq got the fuck out of england to pi.

    So yea I guess he had a reason.

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  22. A female model will fuck a fat rich politician, lawyer, doctor or movie star.

    Too bad it isn’t true if that situation was reversed. Another “ugly” truth about the reality of the market.

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  23. It’s a shame because British women used to have many admirable qualities. As far as the models getting more masculine looking I don’t think that is a huge concern since very few people pay attention to fashion anyway.

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  24. I went to London, and I was shocked by how ugly the women were. It’s not the teeth either, as people say – it’s the obesity, the crassness, the trashy clothing. Above all, it is the inherently ugly faces, where everyone looks like a case of fetal alcohol syndrome. Every criticism of American women applies at least doubly so to British women.

    I thought I might be off, but fellow students in my program said the same thing. And while our lower class whites are merely slobs, theirs are outright degenerates.

    German women get a bad rap, but I don’t find them to be too bad. A little plain, but decent. The girls in Munich were pretty good.

    What age discrepancy would be needed to prefer one country’s girls over another? Take 20 as the universal ideal age say, and compare Sweden to England. Would one prefer the average 25 year old Swede to the average 20 year old Brit (or 90th percentile of one vs. 90th percentile of another, etc.)?

    I’d give Swedish women at least a 10 year advantage, i.e. take a 30ish Swede over a 20ish Brit.

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  25. The sad thing is that these girls don’t know how they’re short changing themselves by conforming to the fat is beautiful mantra.

    Best example of this: kelly osborne. I never thought I’d say it, and she still isn’t my type, but she’s gone up about 4 points with her recent weight loss.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1308830/Kelly-Osbourne-shows-toned-legs-slim-figure-day-performing-Pussycat-Dolls.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

    The girl in the picture could probably go up by twice as much.

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  26. a lot of british women do have narrow, long faces. Irish women have distinctly softer features – not that this is much good when they’re hidden behind several layers of fat & fake tan.

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  27. Forgot to add, all this makes for a nice veiled insult: “You look a little British” in a polite or neutral tone – girls know the pecking order.

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  28. 25% of British women are a size 18 or above! I don’t know how British sizes compare to US sizes, but that’s f—ing gross!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1302673/The-larger-woman-A-quarter-women-size-18-bigger.html

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  29. It can barely be considered a poll of any relevance.

    No doubt.

    Lame poll.

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  30. yea tell that to some of the chumps around here. givin that bitch in the red dress back in the visualizing omega post a fucking 7, ill tell you what – miss surrey is better than red dress and she sure as hell dont get no fucking 7 either.

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  31. Every population has beautiful women (slim, pretty face) but the question is how far from average, how many standard deviations from average, are these women?

    If you are looking for 7s and 8s in white women, you will find those women near the average in Estonia and Scandinavia (they set the standard), slightly above average in Spain and Brazil, 1 standard deviation above in English and American women, and maybe 2 or 3 standard deviations above in an extremely poor population.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liya_Kebede

    Liya Kebede can hold her own with any white model, but Liya is way above average for Ethiopian women, whereas an Estonian top model might be average for her ethnicity.

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  32. in one of the links, the author discusses how “feminine” Veronica Lake looks. a quick google search of her showed many manly pictures. now i’m confused.

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  33. @ David

    “Regarding fatness being an indicator of a character deficiency: I think there is something to that. I’m thin and went out on one date with an overweight woman once and couldn’t believe how disturbing it was to see the binge eating. There’s a reason behind putting on so much weight.

    Do primitive men find primitive women attractive?”

    There has been a study that found men experienced temporary enhanced attraction toward BBWs when they were hungry. The theory that fat women would have food & that they would share some with them was the general conclusion.

    Since I am a true sadist, I enjoy toying with obese women. Sometimes though I go hogging, no idea why. I just have this urge.

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  34. @Carl Sagan

    “It can barely be considered a poll of any relevance.

    No doubt.

    Lame poll.”

    The poll used in the article was done by a travel agency, I’m sure the sample size was over 50. Funny how Americans are considered third among the well behaved tourists, only losing to German and Japanese tourists. No surprise there, Germans like myself are KING.

    Care to prove your inane statements?

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  35. Looks like the editors at Taki Mag have been reading and parroting Roissy to a tee. Wow. This post is basically a re-scrambling of Roissy’s post on man jaws, hollywood starlets of a bygone age etc.

    http://www.takimag.com/sniperstower/article/askmen.coms_top_babes_ravishing_or_roadkill/

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  36. on September 4, 2010 at 8:21 pm gunslingergregi

    Bhetti if your gonna insist on taking pottshots at english big bitches you gonna have to agree that the miss surray 08 would actually be drooled over by arab men.

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  37. on September 4, 2010 at 8:25 pm gunslingergregi

    Ok so multiculturalism has been good in some ways I have personally talked to people from every country on freaking earth.

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  38. Wake up white man.

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  39. on September 4, 2010 at 8:39 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea you should get out and vote it might make a diference as long as you vote for none of above.

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  40. Dana, genetic mapping says Aussie Aborigines are full HSS. They are from the same group of about 2000 individuals we all descended from.

    They just were one of the earliest groups to split off (or too ugly and chased away?) and became boxed in genetically due to isolation.

    That being said…
    http://mahalofashion.blogspot.com/2008/08/woven-bags.html
    Scroll down past the bags. You may say she is exotic, but you can’t say she ain’t purdy.

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  41. Mark

    “Extrapolating this group to fit all british woman is rather unfair. There are plenty of very attractive british women, they’re just not on holiday on some awful spanish island.”

    In my time in London I had a little game I’d play. Every time I saw a woman over a 6 who was with someone else I’d count down to how long it took her to start speaking French or Italian.

    Conclusion? Every attractive woman in London is a French or Italian tourist.

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  42. @CR

    Last picture was just horribly unfair.

    You don’t play by the rules.

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  43. on September 4, 2010 at 9:07 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’Every attractive woman in London is a French or Italian tourist.

    ”””””
    lol

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  44. on September 4, 2010 at 9:14 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

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    british chix are so ugly dat more dan once when i was with a brit chick i kept saying to her, “but i don’ do butthex!!” as she took my cocka and put in in her anuth it looked as she said “don’t worry this is a blowjob!” zlzoozozlzozlolzozlzozlzolzlzolz with my cocka gonna in and out of what looked like der anusth other tha that it could talk but i thought that that might be a new neocn thing the talking anuth for neocons ercteive tapings of butthex sessions without the girlths ocnthent that the neocns use 2 sell teh books of bernankes weekly standadthdths favorites butthexual heroes lzozllzoz zlzolzozozolzozzozlzozo 6 foot tall too zozooozlzolzzolzo hrymes iwth goldman sax llzozozo

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  45. morsel

    octoroon at least if not a 1/16th-a-roon

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  46. @ dana: The PC police would crucify you for daring to think that different races may have genetic differences. Secondly, you should check out the huge push to try and get more Aboriginals into university….yet it isn’t working.

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  47. hey, beauty is only skin deep!!! lol!!! only JOKING!!! heheheh!!

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  48. Jeebus. At the supermarket this afternoon I saw much hotter chicks just walking around shopping. As for the manliness of most American models and actresses, yes. Tell me man-jaw (and not so closeted Lesbian) Jillian Michaels is the “epitome of sexiness?” There are a few cuties in Hollywood, but they hardly get much attention.

    Kim Kardashian (or any of the Kardashians)? Really? They’re famous for dating Black athletes and having big butts. That’s it. I’ve seen hotter just walking around, in SoCal, ground zero of fat, 4 foot tall Mestizo women up from Chiapas. Very Indio. [I think Mexico’s only hot woman, Salma Hayek, left long ago. I have only seen 4 actually hot Mexican women in SoCal.]

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  49. whiskey:

    I think Mexico’s only hot woman, Salma Hayek, left long ago. I have only seen 4 actually hot Mexican women in SoCal.

    whiskey, i’m a fan of your work, but stop scaring people.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico#Demographics

    wikipedia is your friend. use it. how can a mexican population made up 80% of mestizos have only 4 good looking women in socal- especially when the genetic proportions of european and amerindian are equal?? key quote:

    Among the findings, it was reported that of the 80% of the population that is mestizo, the proportions of European and indigenous ancestry are approximately even.

    of course, i am assuming that a caucasoid genetic contribution will generally add to the beauty quotient of a particular group.

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  50. I haven’t visited Britain for a long time.
    As for USA, I really don’t see many plain people in California.

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  51. Marianne Faithful, Julie Christie, Audrey Hepburn, Twiggy, Maureen O’Hara, Vivienne Leigh, Julie Andrews, Diana Rigg- all were great British beauties. There are more. Twiggy looked really lovely after she retired. Julie Andrews was a babe well into her fifties as was Diana Rigg. Julie Christie was immortal in Dr. Zhivago. I don’t see so many lovely British women anymore however.

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  52. @whiskey

    Selma Hayek was hot, but only half Mexican.

    I’ve never been to Britain but I’ve been to many countries and women here in Texas are beautiful compared to many of the places I’ve been. I’m sure the rest of the US can’t be all that bad. There are few good looking women in many other countries.

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  53. Dana, according to her bio, her father is a full-blooded AuA, and her mother 50%.

    The possible explanation may be that because the AuA genetic base is 2nd closest to the original base without much divergence within itself, its envelope may be more flexible to express radical departure from the common traits under slighter pressure. Seems counterintuitive, but it is really not, it is a matter of expression potential that is carried in “older” races. In the case of AuA, they are exceptionally adapted to life in the harsh Australian desert. But the indicator of the original flexibility is that kids in some tribes have straight blonde hair until puberty. This is not an import, it was noted by the first explorers.

    With a change in environment (=lifestyle) and in diet, a different set of trait may be taking hold. Probably in 10 generations, the AuA would look, in the mean, quite different than today.

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  54. @ohio-

    no dear, liya is about average for an ethopian woman.

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  55. Even Keira Knightly is hideous to me…I totally agree with this…

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  56. Gunny:
    What made those girls ugly was their attitude. Judging a person’s worth by how they look without any other indicators is a useless exercise. There seems to be little correlation. Obesity is a social problem.

    Here’s the data from the CDC:

    In 2009, only Colorado and the District of Columbia had a prevalence of obesity less than 20%.
    […]
    Thirty-three states had a prevalence equal to or greater than 25%; nine of these states (Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and West Virginia) had a prevalence of obesity equal to or greater than 30%.

    The latest statistic from the United Kingdom is 24%. Which means that its pretty similar and the US may on average have slightly higher obesity rates. Americans are widely known for their ridiculous Supersizes that aren’t found that commonly outside of America and obesity is seen as American. Comparison between the two nations seems a bit silly to me; if seeing an example that’s somehow worse than the awfulness you’re experiencing makes me feel better… I mean, to me, the comparison between the US and the UK is the same silly comparison as ‘Well, I may have murdered one person but at least I didn’t murder two.’

    It’s just not that huge of a difference in terms of the social pathologies inflicting these nations.

    But Arab guys have a lot of blown up wives. We’re talking more the Gulf here, but it’s a universal big issue. It’s probably more the Gulf ’cause those guys are happy not to sleep with them and play elsewhere.

    The Arab women also like to lie themselves and spread the propaganda that the men actually like them big… but it seems to be more of an issue of hand from the men’s point of view.

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  57. Somehow I do not think that lady is Ms Surrey, it is a joke people. Surrey is a rich area in the UK and they would have better looking females than that.
    Having spent a few years in the UK (london) I can verify British women are getting fatter due to the high concentration of fast food places and the high amount of alcohol they consume.
    I agree 100% with the comment that under-developed countries have the most attractive women. Eastern Europe, Baltic States, Ukraine/Russia and Scandinavia (even though they are developed) have the most “attractive” females.

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  58. Craigslists is now a causality of Feminism:

    Adult services censored on Craigslist

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/04/craigslist.censored/index.html?hpt=T2

    Without ANY PROOF, feminists have managed to shut down the adult services section on Craigslist by pure accusations. The article just makes accusation after accusation without any hard proof that any child has been trafficked using Craigslist.

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  59. I just back from a week in the UK. Fuck me, but I LIKE the Brits, by and large, and that includes the women. Spit or swallow, I love the way they talk.

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  60. on September 4, 2010 at 11:23 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    Look at how quick Obese-dian the ASS-trologer was to defend fatties, due to his own well-established fat fetish.

    For all of their complaining, black men have it pretty good in America. This is because the rising obesity of American women, while shrinking the pool of women that white men find attractive, actually expands the pool of what black men find attractive.

    That is right. Rising female obesity works against white men but in favor of black men.

    In modern America today, black men are in paradise.

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  61. on September 4, 2010 at 11:25 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    The female at the end looks like an Australian Aboriginal. Is that what she is?

    Then she is actually in a prosperous country, Australia.

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  62. on September 4, 2010 at 11:29 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    Also, interestingly, I wouldn’t be surprised if the British empire was successful precisely *because* British women are unattractive.

    The success of France and Spain in creating empires through naval power would invalidate this theory, as would the maritime success of the Vikings.

    Spain in particular was a massive maritime power, despite having women that would rank quite high in beauty and femininity.

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  63. on September 4, 2010 at 11:32 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    I think Mexico’s only hot woman, Salma Hayek, left long ago. I have only seen 4 actually hot Mexican women in SoCal.]

    Salma Hayek is half Lebanese.

    Lebanese women have a very high average beauty score.

    You can’t lump Salma Hayek into the Mexican group.

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  64. I hate to say but in men……..obesity is a sign of betaness…..

    In my experience heavier guys typically work ALOT and have no control over their own lives…controlled by….their bosses…other men….

    As Bhetti indicated…It doesn’t suprise me DC has a low obesity rate…if you work for the govt….you work 40 hrs a week…period…good pay…low stress(no deadlines)….

    For me, Obesity in men at least …has always been a sign that you don’t have balance between work and life.

    Men in other parts prosperous nations usually work less hours… America men work less than third world nations, but way more hours than other top tier countries…

    “Go back to work you stupid beta…who cares about your health…I’ll go to your house and bang your wife in front of you if you don’t meet the dealine” – Alpha male

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  65. How about Sudan, Mongolia, and Vietnam? I could name you a dozen countries with women uglier than those in the U.K. and the U.S

    Ok, name them. You first three are not too good. Mongolians can be incredibly hot (look up Mongolian models–very interesting females–why to go Genghis!). My neighbor is from Mongolia, hot and 21, very fertile, straight thin nose and she’s a talented painter. Can’t believe how sweet she is. Vietnam has some lovely, slim women. And Sudan? I think some of the top black models come from there? If I remember right, has some of the best looking women in Africa.

    7 I think you are a racist. I guess I am too but as Jerry Seinfeld said, “if you like their race you can’t be racist” or something to that effect.

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  66. on September 4, 2010 at 11:43 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    The ugly races are :

    Australian Aboriginals
    West Africans
    Amerindian Mestizos
    Sri Lankans, Javanese, etc. (very similar to Austronesian people)

    These are races where you could see thousands of women without ever seeing an 8 or higher.

    Almost all other races have at least OK women…

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  67. It’s interesting to see how the word ‘chav’ has evolved. A few years ago, it was definitely a reference to a specific subculture found within the low socioeconomic classes.

    The term has seemingly broadened in its definition as its used by the public.

    The behaviour referenced in the Daily Mail is by no means exclusive to the chav subculture or the low socioeconomic classes, by any means. The commenter quoted in the original post is partly deluded about how British women are acting.

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  68. Kate Beckinsale approaches female facial perfection in ‘Cold Comfort Farm’, but I guess that’s 15 years ago. She’s still pretty hot, I guess.

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  69. Morsellaux,

    That model woman you linked is only 1/4th or less Aboriginal.

    Australian Cricketer Jason Gillespie is also considered an ‘aboriginal’ due to being 25% AuA, but he looks white by any standard.

    http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Jason%20Gillespie&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi

    They apply a ‘one-drop’ sort of categorization too..

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  70. Bhetti

    Which hospital are you currently training in? I just got back from a guided tour of the NHS in London… Curious.
    I have always felt at home over there, despite the vile weather. Must be some kind primeval genetic memory. Or maybe the females are so welcomimg the rest follows automatically..

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  71. My wife’s friend is “in love” with a British male, who’s as ugly as Mz. Surrey up there. I believe its been centuries of English inbreeding that’s created this brown bagger face problem. The English have to stop hiding in their lofts and banging whatever they can take home from the bar. My own friend from Wells is with a decent looking guy, so send a prayer to God and take a shot in hoping their kids won’t be the next Mz Surrey or whatever the fuck was on the X Factor.

    What were they? Golem and Frodo’s love children?

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  72. Never mind the Brits, the Irish are probably the worst.

    Most of them combine the charming attributes of the british “women” (I use the word advisedly) with the belief that they are 8s, 9s and 10s.

    To land a 4 in this benighted land, you’d need to use Nuclear Negging.

    The fake tan is omnipresent (as Amplayer noted) as well as designer handbags and completely inappropriate clothing: Carcase dressed as lamb.

    There is the odd exception to the rule (and when they’re pretty, they are really pretty), and thank God for them.

    Most Irish blokes see Yank and even British women as improvements.

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  73. That Taki article that was linked to in the post is a pretty good one. And makes a serious point: A lot of the Askmen 100 are somewhat masculine in their appearance.

    That said, they all look better than the Beast of Surrey. And 99/100 times it is better for a woman to be too skinny rather than fat. But what is happening to the feminine look?

    And what is the name of the beast at the bottom of the post?

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  74. Were British women ever considered good-looking overall? (Sure there are good-looking British women but it’s a needle in a haystick thing.)

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  75. @ cap’n bob

    That’s sad about Ireland. There goes my motivation to see any of the British Isles.

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  76. Steve Sailer’s site and Matthew Yglesias:

    http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/2010/09/body-mass-index/

    List Mexico as the second fattest (as measured by BMI) nation in the world. All I can tell you is what I see on the streets of SoCal. Muffin tops galore, it is rare to see a non-fat Mexican woman, much less one attractive. Actually Hot, even rarer. I *HAVE* seen them, but they are rare here. Average height? Around 4 feet five inches. Very, very Indio. I know that stats say different, but it is very, very rare to see even 2nd generation boys/girls with height over 5 feet five inches.

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  77. Harmonica,

    “That’s sad about Ireland. ”

    It sure is – and the real tragedy is that weight is what happened. If you look at photos from 30-40 years ago (Ireland only became truly Westernised in the 80s), there were loads of 7s, 8s and 9s – slim and elegant. A lot of Maureen O’Hara look-alikes.

    Then processed food was discovered and drinking in public for women became socially acceptable.

    And we’ve been paying the price ever since.

    That said, the pretty ones are truly pretty.

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  78. Rum: Each attachment’s somewhere different, so I’ve probably been to at least one you’ve visited. Where did you go?

    Sorry for being vague.

    Britain has many faults, but I do have a good deal of affection for it. ‘Welcoming’ is definitely a word that begins to explain why.

    Though not in exactly the sense you mean it! There’s a lack of hangups in London girls I’m not sure is replicated in America?

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  79. I’ve been saying this for years. Just watch any British tv show or movie – the most hideous white people ever. At least they’re funny sometimes.

    Even the “beauties” England brags about are embarrassingly subpar. Emma Watson, wtf?

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  80. “I think Mexico’s only hot woman, Salma Hayek, left long ago. I have only seen 4 actually hot Mexican women in SoCal.”

    Closet faggot whiskey, please see below:

    http://www.missuniverse.com/members/profile/468715

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  81. On the topic of Aboriginals – they have very weak genetics and you can out-breed the ugly out of them quickly. They cease looking Aboriginal at all in two or three generations.

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  82. Bhetti:

    Though not in exactly the sense you mean it! There’s a lack of hangups in London girls I’m not sure is replicated in America?

    Christ. Apparently Bhetti’s time in London has infected her with that faggy SWPL “ending-a-declarative-sentence-with-a-rising-inflection” affectation.

    God I hate that shit.

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  83. Upper-class Mexican chicks are smoking hot. Let’s not lose sight of that fact in our zeal to disparage the squat tubbies

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  84. @seven,

    Mongolia: Lots of hot chicks.

    Vietnam; Dear God, so many hot chicks. Google Elly Tran Ha and prepare for mental blockery (because it’s not fair we don’t meet these women in real life).

    Sudan: Got me there. Though there are some remarkably hot Ethiopian women.

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  85. 7 said ‘srsly’ which means ‘7’ is Lilgrl.

    Lilgrl actually considers herself to be beautiful, despite the consensus here of her being a 6.

    Ergo, she doesn’t know anything about female beauty.

    Mongolia : A combo of Russian and Chinese genes can’t bad.

    VietNam : Quite a few hotties (of which Lilgrl is not one). Oriental features but nice round asses.

    Sudan : A war torn country, so we won’t see many models. But a mixture of Arab and Ethiopian genes can’t be bad.

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  86. Tupac, “ending-a-declarative-sentence-with-a-rising-inflection” affectation.

    God I hate that shit.”

    Yea, it is like a turning a screwdriver in my ear.

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  87. I have to confirm the above comments regarding Mexicans. 99.9% of the Mexican women in Arizona are short, fat, and ugly. You literally would have trouble if you sat in a sidewalk cafe all day and looked for an attractive one. Months go by before you see a Mexican woman you’d actually bang.

    A funny thing happened one morning I went to breakfast at a bar. As I walked in, a saw a bunch of attractive women watching one of the World Cup games. I figured they were South American-perhaps Argentinian or Brazilian. I was shocked when I figured they were wearing Mexico jerseys! They looked totally different from the typical fatty Mexican woman you see on the streets of Phoenix-much whiter, European.

    I concluded from this that 99.9% of the Mexican immigrants to Phoenix are scraped from the bottom of the Mexico’s barrel, having the highest proportion of Indian blood. The upper class Mexicans are much more Spanish in ancestry and have little reason to leave Mexico. We’re getting Mexico’s worst.

    Some men think “Latinas” are hot. Sure, if by “Latinas” you mean Cubans and Puerto Rican Americans, and those from South America. But Mexican-American women are short fat diabetic Mestizo baby factories.

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  88. Lol Anon. I don’t think it’s lilgrl. For one, she’s far too vain to admit she comes from physically inferior genetic stock.

    Then again she also thinks she’s half French and Egyptian or something hahahahaha. Apparently adoption agencies in the third world come with really robust family genetic testing services now.

    @ Gorbachev

    Elly Tran Ha = yawn.

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  89. Google Elly Tran Ha and prepare for mental blockery

    She’s a little bit of alright, as the Brits say.

    Yuum.

    I bet Pupu is not that hot.

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  90. Most Irish blokes see Yank and even British women as improvements.

    I wasn’t aware of that. That’s truly a sad state of affairs, then.

    It’s hard to make a blanket statement regarding Canadian women. The country’s made up of different regions. However, we’re a continental people so what you see in the states is somewhat mirrored here. The exception to that rule is Quebec. Quebecois girls, and indeed their culture, is very sexy.

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  91. Google Elly Tran Ha and prepare for mental blockery

    She looks like every other asian chick to me. But Gorbachev has admitted his yellow fever on here already, so his views are going to be predictably skewed.

    7 said ‘srsly’ which means ’7′ is Lilgrl.

    Probably not. The srsly meme has spread to a couple of other posters — I recall Tupac and maurice, among others — and, moreover, lilgrl has never typed it in lowercase letters before.

    ending-a-declarative-sentence-with-a-rising-inflection” affectation.

    God I hate that shit

    Way to not acknowledge the sexual dimorphism here. Good lord, do you want your women to talk like men?

    Rising inflection is “cute”, and “cute” is ok from girls. Just as emoticons, shortened words (“r u srs”), etc. are also cute and therefore ok from girls.
    Any of these things from a man is grounds for a revocation of his balls and of any remaining residual testosterone production.

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  92. The guy who wrote the article for Taki is a regular reader of, and commenter on, this blog. He just posts under a different name.

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  93. Here is a result of googling sexy irish women pictures videos
    http://www.webshots.com/explains/entertainment/sexy-irish-women.html

    QED?

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  94. dalerojo, “Way to not acknowledge the sexual dimorphism here. Good lord, do you want your women to talk like men?”

    No. Just not THAT shit. I can’t imagine how desperate someone has to be to consider it “cute”.

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  95. Morsellaux:
    Admittedly it’s not the sign of an intellectual heavyweight.
    But, smart and intellectual are two different things; I like a girl who’s yes on #1 but decidedly no on #2. (From what little I’ve read of your posts, I gather you’re the type who wants yes on both.)

    The rising-inflection type, generally, is also more fun, takes life a little less seriously, and is a lot less likely to be a psychotic bitcho headcase.

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  96. Cap’n Bob

    Nice summary on Irish women,

    Imo their stratospheric entitlement complex is directly connected to a convent school education-their bodies are temples, all men will be madly in lust with them and so forth. Accordinly they don’t feel the need to be mannerly or keep themselves in shape. There is also a belief that a handbag and skimpy clothes compensates for anything.

    Irish women have no knowledge of their SMV. Usually in fact their perception of SMV is the opposite of reality here. This makes ugly women impossible to game but conversely means a guy may have a better chance with the pretty ones.

    Your best bet is to try for an attractive girl without a designer handbag and tastefully dressed who hasn’t gone to a convent school. However the difficulty is that even when you find them, these chicks, although more pleasant to deal with than their fatter sisters, don’t put out easily. Also, when they do, as I’ve found to my cost, they’ve a tendency to get pregnant accidentally. Be warned.

    Incidenally, the reason for all of the above is that, because Irishmen have so much natural game, Irishwomen have developed an immunity. When gaming the slutty type, nuclear negs are ssential. The other type is so suspcious of men as to require, in comfort building terms, the equivalent of the Grand Pyramid at Giza, mixed with a serious dollop of Soft Underbelly.

    It’s not surprising so many Irishmen are switching to Polish girls.

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  97. dalerojo, smart beats intellectual hands down. Intellectual is an overlay and I don’t insist on it–it is usually connected with a degree of pretentiousness which I can happily live without–while smart is a precondition.

    The inflection, though, no way! 😉

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  98. She looks like every other asian chick to me.

    Are you saying Lilgirl is just as hot as Elly?

    Uphill battle my friend, uphill battle.

    Way to not acknowledge the sexual dimorphism here. Good lord, do you want your women to talk like men?

    Fair enough. But I’m in a catakerous mood regarding SWPLs tonight and can’t be bothered with these fine distinctions.

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  99. Are you saying Lilgirl is just as hot as Elly?

    Given what I know firsthand about what professional photos and/or photoshop can do for a girl, there’s a fair chance that lilgrl is actually hotter. It’d be good to see some unretouched photos of elly in order to make an apples to apples comparison, though there’s no denying the awesomeness of her tits.
    The line on that bet moves even further if you don’t have yellow fever, since, iirc, lilgrl isn’t fully asian.

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  100. iirc, lilgrl isn’t fully asian.

    But is she fully human? lol

    I just hope she doesn’t evince that other SWPL habit: answering a question, or beginning a declarative sentence with, “So,[…]”

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  101. @Bhetti,

    Two overweight teen girls with big mouths and without talent fighting each other like a bunch of unsupervised toddlers on a reality talent show which intention is to spew out marketed-for-sale garbage for the no-brain amusement of the low IQ masses.

    Awful.

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  102. The world’s ugliest women will continue to be found in backward primitive societies.

    That may be generally true, but not always is practice. Look at Asia where 60% of the world’s population is today. It’s much more competitive because it has fewer resources per person, so women need to be more symmetrical and pleasing to compete. And it doesn’t take much to be backwards – being massacred by you neighbours/internal forces fighting for power, for example.

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  103. “iirc, lilgrl isn’t fully asian.”

    How the hell would she know? She was ADOPTED.

    Her supposed exoticism, like many other details of her existence – being ‘elite’, high class *cough *gymteacherparents*cough*, and beautiful – it’s only true in her own head.

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  104. on September 5, 2010 at 4:28 am adrian drummond

    The term CHAV = Council House And Violent

    and here’s an extract from the website below:-

    In the Summer things just got worse as the sun brought them out to sit on the grass opposite the shops on the High Street, drinking their tramp juice (Special Brew during the day!!!) always with their big dogs. Nevermind being able to afford to look after their devil chav-spawn kids, as long as you can feed yer rottweilers! And yes, as you can imagine the streets are a veritable minefield of dog shite as these feeble minded fuckwits saunter around with their stinking, drooling hounds. An otherwise pleasant walk along the canal becomes frought with peril as you try to dodge the shit and worry about getting stabbed or raped.

    Anyway I was unlucky enough to be stuck on one of the chavviest streets full of women who seemed to have nothing better to do than endlessly fire sprogs out of their dubious nether regions. Luckily my son and I no longer have to be scared of being mugged on the way to the shop, cause there are no shops where we have moved to and so no horrid stinking chav scum.

    http://www.chavtowns.co.uk/

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  105. The line on that bet moves even further if you don’t have yellow fever, since, iirc, lilgrl isn’t fully asian.

    Word has it that her grandfather was a black American GI and her grandmother was a prostitute in a Saigon brothel in 1966.

    That would account for her atypically large size and musculature relative to other Vietnamese women, and her BadonkaGook ass….

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  106. Bhetti,
    I think I know what you mean about the lack of hang ups in British women unlike many American women. British women do seem down to earth and often have a good sense of humor. Sometimes upper middle class American women do come off as a little neurotic.

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  107. There have been lots of British beauties, as pointed out above. There was a discussion on this board before about the distribution of beauty in various societies- the example I recall is Japan/Korea, in which the average in japan is low (5s) but you occasionally get real stunners, whereas in Korea the average girl on the street is likely to be a 7 or 8 but not too much variation around the mean. (Gorby, please weigh in.) Those are both mono-ethnic societies, but ethnic diversity also plays a role – in the case of Mexico above, a sort of caste thing, with a Spanish upper class and Indian and Mestizo lower and middle classes.

    Or also, as in the UK, the waves of immigration from all over the world (Indian subcontinent, Caribbean, Middle East, Eastern Europe, etc.) that have made London a great polyglot capital have had their effect as well. I’m a sucker for exotic, mixed-race types. These types may be concentrated in immigrant communities and chav-derived cultures, but still. It shakes up the gene pool.

    So this post just describes the familiar lower-class destructive behaviors of the native whites: overeating, crassness, entitlement, aggression, etc. — not the entirety of the UK or British females. Make these girls lose some weight, and give them some class, and many of them would be acceptably attractive. (re anplayer’s point on kelly osborne: well, one out of two is better than nothing.)

    to Mu’min, the person who said Sri Lankan women are ugly- hey, I think M.I.A. is kinda sexy. But of course, she’s a sample of one, and selected to be an international video star at that. Just sayin’. Also Indonesian (Javanese) women can be incredibly beautiful.

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  108. on September 5, 2010 at 5:40 am gunslingergregi

    ”””’Also Indonesian (Javanese) women can be incredibly beautiful.”””””

    Not really don’t come here he he he

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  109. I live in northern Italy and the quality of the average woman is mind blowing

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  110. Although just about every attractive or talented Brit seem to have emigrated, British women are still the same as those in most of the Anglosphere, ie, about average with a pretty sloppy dress sense

    Ireland is the best of the English-speaking countries (as previously pointed out, the irish tend to have finer facial features for some reason ) followed by Australia. Spain is a bit above average, as are most Eastern European countries, and I’m told Israeli women have good bodies, other than that there aren’t really any stand outs.

    And if it fats you want, check out some of the Polynesian chicks we have down in New Zealand.

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  111. “Given what I know firsthand about what professional photos and/or photoshop can do for a girl, there’s a fair chance that lilgrl is actually hotter. ”

    Impossible. There’s a thread where lilgrl was ripped to shreds when the unphotoshopped, candid photos of her were leaked. It’s well established, lilgrl is hotter than no one. Further confirmation: the video link of her being ugly at work.

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  112. “iirc, lilgrl isn’t fully asian”

    How would someone adopted out of a third world country know what genetic stock they come from? 1/4 French my arse.

    It just sounds like one of the many things she says to make herself feel special. She also thinks her gym teacher parents are ‘elite’. srsly lolz.

    Back to the topic at hand – yes, British people are the ugliest white people around. Case in point: plain Emma Watson is the best they have to offer. Wtf?

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  113. on September 5, 2010 at 7:35 am gunslingergregi

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704855104575469770302547514.html?mod=WSJ_article_MoreIn_US

    lol gates speaks to infantry troops and they couldn’t even find a token black guy.

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  114. Obsidian,
    I generally don’t find overweight men attractive, but CR is right that other qualities like the ones he listed can compensate for a less than ideal body. For instance I find Tony Soprano appealing and I know many other women do also. It helps if he at least has upper body strength.
    On the other hand, super fit, cut, overly tan guys, especially ones my age, always strike me as a little gay.

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  115. @TG
    Even Keira Knightly is hideous to me…I totally agree with this…

    I saw her in the remake of Dr. Zhivago. I found myself drawn to her in a profound way. To me, she is very beautiful. Part of it is because the story is so powerful, but she looked good and also played the character of Lara well. I also like her in her Dior advertisement.

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  116. on September 5, 2010 at 8:34 am gunslingergregi

    http://cleantechnica.com/2010/09/04/this-brilliant-led-is-20000-times-more-powerful/

    Interesting site.

    Also apparently doing solar projects in us. Just seem to cost a shitload.

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  117. on September 5, 2010 at 8:41 am gunslingergregi

    http://howsolarworks.1bog.org/solar-economics/

    get rid of electric bill. Not bad.

    ”””Typically solar installations cost approximately $9-10 dollars per watt in a turnkey system. So a 3kW (3,000W) system might cost $27,000-$30,000 before rebates.””””

    No electric bill for me now would be actually living free.

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  118. Uncharitable example at the end. She actually looks lovely, though she has the heavier-set features that we’ve been conditioned (yes, us men are conditioned too)

    [Editor: No, we aren’t. The boner has a mind of its own.]

    to find unattractive. And she also looks kind of scared.
    Taking a member of a race of people that have been butt-raped by our sinister empire since the day we touched down there and singling them out as being ugly is a little… unenlightened.

    [Buttraping wouldn’t have had an effect on their aggregate ugliness. Very primitive cultures feature some of the world’s ugliest women. Pick up Coon’s anthropology book on the human races sometime.]

    Quite right about the Brits though. What a mess.

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  119. Steve:

    This reply is a bit late but London is about as representative of the rest of the UK as San Francisco is of the Midwest.

    One thing to note is most people in central London weren’t born there. People move for job reasons, often for arts / creative / media stuff. Most of the cute British girls in London are in indie clubs and bars, not in trashier venues. Middle class women also are a lot less visible, they don’t go out on the tiles with an orange tan and get smashed and make loads of noise. Also if you think London is bad you should try a night out in a city in the north of england or scotland 🙂

    You are right we are close behind the US on obesity, i’ve traveled in the US a fair bit though and trying to be objective things seemed fairly similar with respect to the quality of women.

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  120. I didn’t read all the previous comments, it’s too many of them.

    I currently live in UK, and this is the sad truth. Girls in England are bad. Very bad. Girls in Scotland are even worse. They are. I’m in Scotland for 2 years so far, and I maybe spoke with 5 girls that were raised in here and were not ugly.

    It’s not about that all the girls are horrible. Some of them would be even quite nice if brought up in other culture. They deep fry everything in here. Eating in take aways and having a family dinner in macdoland is totally a common thing.

    The moby dick friday hunting nights are a standard. You can even see some fat chicks laying on the pavement and puking all over if possible. And they are also pretty fucking aggressive sometimes.

    There is a very big number of immigrants from other parts of europe in UK. Girls are coming up here from eastern european (loads of polish, russian, lithuaniolatvianoestonian females) countries to earn some money.
    You can get some pretty nice ass from countries like france, italy, spain etc. After a few months in UK, most of them gets slightly fat, and then it continues. And they take up some of the british habits as well.

    Bigger places like London are not that bad. It’s not Paris, but it’s not horrible. However, the more north you go, the more pink, toothless and obese people you will meet.

    The worst thing the the common social acceptance for this behaviour. Those girls are very self-confident and they don’t give a shit about their looks.

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  121. on September 5, 2010 at 9:03 am gunslingergregi

    http://www.google.com/search?q=pictures+of+china+biggest+buildings&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1;

    little wierd that I got solar shit in us searching china tallest building and clicking on the building pic lol

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  122. Our women certainly do suck ass. Sorry about that, world.

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  123. Rich,
    I agree. The picture of the Aborigine girl shouldn’t have been put up, she isn’t pretending to be a beauty queen like the one in the picture above her.

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  124. Well, at least there are plenty of pubs in the U.K. Never underestimate the power of “beer goggles.”

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    I am sure British women don’t looks so bad after you have had…oh, say…several pints of beer.

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  125. Da Truth

    Well, at least there are plenty of pubs in the U.K. Never underestimate the power of “beer goggles.”

    When I was twenty I could happily fuck an overweight over forty years old married woman. Nowadays I’d rather masturbate than fuck the “beauty queen”. Not only would I not hit on her, if she was in my room naked and giving me a massage, I’d only do her if she paid me. Otherwise I’d just not find the enthusiasm.

    Never go to Asia, boys. You’ll be ruined for big fat white girls for life.

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  126. on September 5, 2010 at 9:51 am gunslingergregi

    Why I don’t drink so I can appreciate the female aesthetic beauty.

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  127. on September 5, 2010 at 9:52 am gunslingergregi

    xsplat we are gonna have to get on same team here and start talking about how they are ugly.

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  128. on September 5, 2010 at 9:55 am gunslingergregi

    Otherwise gonna be over run us already at one in five marriages to foreigners lol

    ””” Elly Tran Ha ”””

    Even though the above is just another day nothing special.

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  129. I’m going to give a simple, honest, uneducated opinion (I say that because I haven’t been to all of the places you guys have and I’m going by what I have personally seen). As fat and busted as alot of white/euro girls are, as a whole they still are the hottest, because let’s face it, a slender, at least cute in the face white/euro girl kills any ethnic girl. You have to go to the hottest ethnic chicks to compare them to some random blond white college co ed, that’s saying something. Ethnic chicks only look hot when they have a good amount of white/euro admixture, you can see it play out in the world time and time again. You can say otherwise but deep down in your selfish souls, you cannot deny this.

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  130. I often see cute asian girls hanging on some dorky white beta like she’s out with Bruce Springsteen or someone equally alpha.

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  131. ””’Laura
    I often see cute asian girls hanging on some dorky white beta like she’s out with Bruce Springsteen or someone equally alpha.
    ”””

    Yea they know how to love should be only ones on planet in my opinion.

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  132. Editor, you underestimate the power of media conditioning. An excellent example is anal sex. Even a couple of generations ago, the idea of buttsex would have been met with reactions along the lines of – why the hell would you want to put that “there”? Apart maybe from a few gay English lords. Because of the repitition in movies, porn and magazines of the anal sex meme, it’s now actually become the preferred method of copulation for some people. Thanks to that there’s a lot of women (and guys!) going to be incontinent in a few years.
    Add to that the pushing of lesbianism (not hot – you know, if they’re real lesbians, they’re not interested in you), the effeminisation of men and the masculinisation of women (very obvious in all media), the pushing of the gay thing, and pretty soon you’re going to have what Irvine Welsh says in Trainspotting – soon there’ll be no men or women, just wankers. Unlike him, I don’t think that sounds great.
    The boner follows the mind, the mind can be programmed.

    [Editor: The hindbrain, where sexual desire resides, cannot be reprogrammed.]

    As for Coon, a cursory look shows that he did much of his work at Harvard. Not surprising – they have a long history of eugenicist arse-bandits with a superiority complex. It’s a telling coincidence that his name is “coon,” which is also a racially derogatory term.

    [So I take it his observations rub you the wrong way.]

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  133. Luckily for me, Gunner, although the girls I prefer to date get hit on many times a day, I’m also told that my taste in women runs outside of the mainstream. There is nothing better in the world than a girl you find hot as hell who doesn’t feel that way about herself.

    I like them micro mini and neotenous . A thick heavily cleft upper lip, like a suckling infant. Big eyes, like a child. Childishly high voice, childishly playful, and carrying the latent power and heat of a volcano.

    I’m told that most men like their women to be put together in a more mature and companionable fashion. And taller than 5 feet.

    Western girls all look huge to me. Even with a pretty face, it would be like fucking a quarterback.

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  134. Rich

    The boner follows the mind, the mind can be programmed.

    Within the limits of the hardware.

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  135. xsplat,
    I’m guessing you have a small frame. I understand where you are coming from though. I once briefly went out with a man with a small frame. He was good looking and cool, although dumb as rocks, but I just couldn’t get over the fact that he made me feel like an amazon. Physical compatibility is very important.

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  136. Rich – do you think a gay man can be reprogrammed to be straight?

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  137. About size, we all know that girls today are fatter than twenty years ago. Does anyone have any info about if they are taller?

    Yes, I’m on the short side, so since I still date girls in their twenties, I’m growing older while they are growing larger.

    So far there are still plenty of micro-mini-models in Asia. Who will date you enthusiastically even with an age difference that attracts hateful stares from hags.

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  138. @Gunslingergregi

    ””’Laura
    I often see cute asian girls hanging on some dorky white beta like she’s out with Bruce Springsteen or someone equally alpha.
    ”””

    “Yea they know how to love should be only ones on planet in my opinion.”

    Thank you!

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  139. And larger girls also tend to have mailing tube sized vaginas. Even one month after losing their virginity.

    A small girl can remain tight after multiple babies.

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  140. ”” it’s now actually become the preferred method of copulation for some people. ”””’

    It is nice to own all of your woman’s holes but at same time once you hit it a few times it is no longer tight and loses newness lol

    Pussy does seem like it may have evolved for more aggressive persuits.

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  141. Here’s a tip – if your girlfriend is not attracting hateful stares from the short haired matrons when you go out, you are doing it wrong.

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  142. I seem to have struck a nerve.

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  143. And alternately if the hottest and cutest and youngest girls instantly want to be her friend, you are doing it right.

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  144. ””””””what
    @Gunslingergregi

    ””’Laura
    I often see cute asian girls hanging on some dorky white beta like she’s out with Bruce Springsteen or someone equally alpha.
    ”””

    “Yea they know how to love should be only ones on planet in my opinion.”

    Thank you!
    ””””””

    I and my buddies have gotten more than we have given.

    Thank You,

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  145. Should of known what was asian when I relayed story from field I assumed white chick though.

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  146. The only nerve of mine you’ve ever struck Laura is the ennui nerve. Not true, that nerve also resonates in cascades with the irritation nerves. Boredom and irritation is what you evince.

    WHY ARE YOU HERE!?

    You disagree with every single male attitude. Why the hell do you make your pointless and vapid comments here?

    I wish you would not be here.

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  147. Actually I often appreciate many of the male attitudes expressed here. I don’t necessarily think the same way, though, probably because I’m a girl.

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  148. White people under siege no doubt about it.

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  149. Why are you here, Laura. You are anti game. You are disagreeable. No one here is trying to fuck you. You contribute nothing and show no sign of altering in anyway from what you read. What could you possibly get out of it?

    Can’t you get some male attention some other way?

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  150. White asian mixes are usually pretty hot though so not really a bad thing I guess.

    My cousin is probably pretty close to 10 so yea.

    I just hope it doesn’t ruin them as a people if they internalize the wests values and the world becomes the same everywhere.

    And everywhere you go men and woman at war instead of just being in love.

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  151. Here in California most of the Mexican women have the same look, around 5-2, 40 pounds overweight, and very plain. They all look like sisters, there is so little variance.

    The White women are equally slovenly if they live in a low middle class area. White females in upper class areas take care of themselves better and tend to keep themselves slim.

    Asians I think dress and take care of themselves best of all three groups.

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  152. @Jake Turner:
    “The British female underclass has always been fairly ugly. The upper-middles are a different story. Lots of slim, beautiful women in that stratum due to post-war social mobility concentrating the talent.”

    Very true. Go to any city with a student population and gene pool and quality of females improve accordingly (I work in Guildford and every time I get off the train there are nubile hotties everywhere). The good thing about these middle and upper-class hotties is they’re dressing sexier than ever, the downside is they’re generally SWPL and require a higher than normal standard of game.

    The proles however, are growing increasingly deformed and can only use phrases like “at the end of the day”. And they’re breeding exponentially. The great thing is you can tell a British prole by the fact in an instant. They’re as identifiable as people with Down’s Syndrome, just like the girls in Bhetti’s video. Maybe they’re making the upper-middles look attractive by comparison and so my standards have been affected accordingly. Different parts of the country are different as well. London is not a cross section of the UK.

    You’ve really got to take lots of other variables into account. I would probably still rate German girls as unattractive if I went by the sort that play for the national women’s football team or the exchange students I’d met. Sport and student exchanges are both partaken in by certain types of people who inevitably look a certain way.

    As for Cap’n Bob and his Irish girls, like I’ve said before, their self-perception > actual SMV. English are only marginally better. It’s best to go places where actual SMV > self-perception, like continental Europe. That’s at least of equal importance in rating a country’s women. Germany for example is great for that. The men are efficient, organised provider-beta sorts so the girls have not developed immunity to the game of thrill-seeking alphas.

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  153. I wouldn’t say I’m normally disagreeable, but maybe I do come across that way. I will admit occasionally I make a less than sweet and innocent statement, but I don’t always stop and think before I post. (some of them I regret) Anyway, I hate any type of confrontation with men and I know they hate it to so I’m going to end it here.

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  154. Yea ok one chick in my life that I figured 10 was a white chick and we may have made a good team but with divorce law bullshit we never got to find out.

    Fuck the western poison.

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  155. Cyning, you are correct to identify above average looks with above average class.

    In SE Asia most girls who use the airport are hot. Most who use the bus terminal are not.

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  156. But yea her parents rich so she probably learned from birth to apply make up and shit and get her hair done on a daily basis and had all the extras. Plus plenty of clothes and shit.
    So basically where I am now I have a lot of raw material like she had to work with.

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  157. I often see cute asian girls hanging on some dorky white beta like she’s out with Bruce Springsteen or someone equally alpha.

    I seem to have struck a nerve.

    On the contrary, it clearly rubs you up in some way or you wouldn’t have mentioned it in the first place.

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  158. Anplayer

    “Accordinly they don’t feel the need to be mannerly or keep themselves in shape. There is also a belief that a handbag and skimpy clothes compensates for anything.”

    The best contrast is on a night out if you talk to some tourist girls, and then talk to some Irish ones.

    The foreign ladies will normally be far prettier, and will almost always be friendly, warm and funny. The Irish ladies will turn their backs on you.

    Good point on Irish game too – most of my friends are natural alphas, but they waste their efforts on seriously damaged goods.

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  159. Where I am at now poor woman are looking hot with no money basically to buy all the acutrements. Just some money and still hot naturally.

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  160. maurice:

    These types may be concentrated in immigrant communities and chav-derived cultures, but still

    Chav in its original form usually referred to pretty white individuals, and thats what I’ve observed living in some areas heavy with the group in question. Whilst the chav subculture was definitely influenced by immigrant ones, chavs themselves were pretty white. The subcultures maintained a certain marked separation that you wouldn’t expect looking at the surface. That said, girls from the chav subculture were more likely than anyone to be with a black man.

    Cee:

    Ethnic chicks only look hot when they have a good amount of white/euro admixture, you can see it play out in the world time and time again. You can say otherwise but deep down in your selfish souls, you cannot deny this.

    I wonder if there’s an ethnicity that all other ethnicities find more attractive, as I remember this post by roissy suggesting a little or if we tend to prefer someone from our own ethnicity. As that post also partly suggested. Well, it seems to be a combination but the marked tendency is towards like-seeks-like assortative mating.

    I mean personally I think the best looking men are Arab, typified by dark plentiful hair, a good height, masculine jaws and a broad-shouldered build. Which means being attracted to similar looking men, like Antonio Banderas and some sections of whites.

    But how much of that is attraction the V-shape and masculine looks from my female human point of view, which the ethnicity in question tends to have if they’re physically fit (or from the masculine point of view, a nice WHR for example.)? And how much of it is to distinctively ethnic characteristics separate from that?

    And if there is an ethnicity that is universally attractive, would it be white? And would that apply to both men and women?

    Tupac:

    “ending-a-declarative-sentence-with-a-rising-inflection” affectation.

    I’m sure I’ve done it in my time and although I’m hearing you guys on it being cute and girly, I don’t consider it a habit of mine. In that case I was genuinely not sure of the idea that British women had less hang ups than American women. I don’t have very much direct experience of American women. I wanted to confirm. Hence, it didn’t feel declarative to me, and required a question mark in addition to the ‘not sure’ part.

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  161. nuclear negs

    haha. I’m going to have to remember that one. to be used only in extraordinary circumstances I’m guessing, and only on a 10.

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  162. Just got back from traveling in Europe. Most of the women who were in shape you could tell we from there. Any overweight women you could tell were from either England, Ireland or America.

    Sucks when you head out to DC and you see so few quality women vs Europe where most women out are in shape,take care of themselves and are just quality.

    In addition to European women looking better they have better attitudes about socializing vs American women who have a princess mentality.

    Why do so many men put up with out of shape, bad attitude women???? Its almost like you should be glad she has a vagina somewhere on her lower body.

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  163. That’s going to be one embarassing public campaign – can you imagine?

    Some aging porn star will come out warning of consequences of getting rammed in the squeakhole too much. I wanna see that one.

    I mean, really — Save the Poopers?

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  164. Western countries suck for woman and socializing period.

    I was in the UK for 4 years and it was not fun dating there, the great thing is that you can hop on a plane and be in Eastern Europe, Baltic states and Scandinavia where you see true beauty.

    I am in Canada and like someone has mentioned previously, Quebec is like being in Europe for women and culture.

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  165. lol jb so your saying the guys getting the proctal exams might end up with problem. he he he

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  166. “I mean, really — Save the Poopers?”

    http://bit.ly/cZaI2U

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  167. ”””””’on September 5, 2010 at 11:47 am Tim
    nuclear negs

    haha. I’m going to have to remember that one. to be used only in extraordinary circumstances I’m guessing, and only on a 10.
    ”””””

    Best way to get 10 is stacks of ones. he he he

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  168. Heh…nah, I think there’s a significant difference of frequency and force there, gunny…

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  169. Other than that social proof and a massive amount of confidense.

    I am beginning to belive that actual beautifull woman are kind of like a commodity that always has buyers in line.

    So you have to be extremely quick or extremely patient or just really lucky he he he

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  170. ””””’Original JB
    Heh…nah, I think there’s a significant difference of frequency and force there, gunny…
    ”””

    Probably just another western ploy to get its men used to just bending over and taking it literally instead of just figuratively.

    I’ll take my cancer like a man no need for check-ups.

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  171. Roissy’s touched on something that’s become apparent while enjoying the diversity that is America’s most important asset. For most of human history, people have been unattractive, chicks who are hot are a phenomenon of advanced civilizations. Throughout most of history, males had to rely on testosterone alone to make them want to procreate, not actual visual stimuli. What sucks is that while rutting with back water Neanderthal women will never appeal to high quality men, women seem content to let swarthy foreigners from crappy countries and thug barbarians do em.

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  172. I am British and I have to say that English women are bad. There are several reasons for this.

    One is that style has mostly disappeared from England, in favour of a chavvy political correctness. It is interesting that the attractive English women listed in an earlier comment are all from a time gone by (sixties and early seventies) when English style was concrete and real. Now style is seen as a form of capitalism and frowned upon, even though the ugly Englishwoman is an extremely consumerist beast.

    Stylish English women are openly hated by the over-entitled female pack. There is some kind of mythical “sisterhood” which says that elegance and style is dressing for success and success with men, both of which are “bad”. The over-entitled tubs of lard believe that they should be get whatever they want without any effort. These women are hugely aggressive, protected by socialism and completely lacking in any kind of personal dignity. These are the pint-drinking, foul-mouthed women who puke outside pubs.

    There are some bright spots in an otherwise dark landscape. Chinese women from the British Chinese community are often stunning and understand how to behave around men. Greek women in England, though sometimes a little short of stature, can be breathtakingly beautiful and very well-dressed. In the City of London (financial district) where I work, there are some truly beautiful women. However the idea that women can act like the worst sort of men goes unchallenged here. Making the most of one’s self is an idea that many English women laugh at.

    Britian has benefited from an influx of women from the former communist bloc. I drink in a very upscale bar, which is a checkpoint for model spotters. It is usually full of beautiful women, who invariably turn out to be Russian or Polish. No-one does designer clothes and sexy makeup as well as Russian girls. A friend of mine is dating a women from Belorusse. She has a pleasant, friendly personality, is fit and very attractive. She way outclasses her British competition.

    Britain needs to re-institute charm schools in a big way. But really, it is all part of a cultural decline that we as men wrestle with.

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  173. Frankly, as obesity goes, I’d say this particular Brit chick has closer to what used to be called classical proportions, as judged by 19th century and earlier portraits by Rubens, etc. American fatties have blubber rolls and are closer to elephant seals than humans.

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  174. Ah jesus. I feel compelled to unofficially comment.

    19th century women in pictures are always being unfairly maligned. and even Rubens’ women were not as big as this girl.

    Examples from specific pictures please.

    And yes, there are an awful lot of fat and rude Irish women and they give the rest of us a bad name. For once, I agree with AnPlayer, he has summed it up more or less correctly. Irish men bear some responsibilty for this by the way. A lot of them will chat up a walrus if they think she’s up for it.

    That girl in the picture would be as pretty as Cheryl Cole if she lost the weight. I envy zaftig beauties but there is a big difference between zaftig and fat and she passed that line about 5 stone ago.

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  175. Everyday Brits internalize Gramscian-Marxist programming with a vengeance for some reason. I know there are exceptions but all too many Brits are just freakin’ sheeple to be herded by their elites.

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  176. Brits cant even find nice girls for TV shows. See the Secret Diaries. What about Skins? The only nice one is half Brazilian.

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  177. Hahaha, this is most amusing, but I think the findings of this survey (that British women are the world’s ugliest) to be highly unlikely.

    For a very simple reason: I have taken many holidays (‘vacations’ to our American cousins) in the most popular holiday resorts throughout the Mediterranean. When I have done so, I have often been informed by the young men of these countries (the Spanish, Portuguese and Greek waiters and bar men) that they find British women most attractive.

    Whilst on vacation in Greece or Spain, I have often been greeted the following way – in broken and unfortunately *course English :

    “Hey Eeengleesh”

    “I fock your weemen”

    “I fock your queen”

    “Fock you”

    *One must not blame the young men of the Mediterranean for the coarseness of their English, for it is their misfortune that many of the British people who take their vacations there, are common and use course English themselves, which is no doubt where these young men have learnt such crudities.

    Clearly, these greetings in broken English are not to be taken literally, simply and obviously because it is highly unlikely that a Greek waiter will have had carnal relation with her Majesty the Queen.

    And, even if they had done so, it is highly unlikely that a young man would boast of having had sex with an elderly woman in her eighties.

    So, we must endeavour to interpret these frequent Greek and Spanish greetings correctly.

    It is most likely they are trying to say that they consider British women to be amongst the most beautiful of ladies, that they consider our dear Queen to be a beautiful lady, and in the case of “fock you”, in Greece, with its historic predilection for homosexuality and carnal relations with sheep, one must assume they are stating that they consider you to be a fine specimen of manhood.

    The fact that so many Greek, Spanish and Portuguese young men frequently boast of having had sex with British women (not to be taken literally for reasons stated above, rather they are expressing the desire to have sex with British women) can only lead us to assume that they find British women very attractive, and therefore the findings of this survey are clearly nonsense.

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  178. Editor says, “While fatness is a character flaw”

    Fatness is a physical flaw that is, today, no more indicative of flawed character than having a B-12 or D-3 deficiency.

    All sheep get sheared one way or another.

    Again, the abundace of fat women you see around you is merely a reflection of your greed.

    You get the kind of women you deserve.

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  179. Kane: +1

    British industry. In 1850, a huge captive market and many heads above the competition. Complacency sunk in, and it shortly ceased to be world’s best practice, though continued to tout its fast-eroding dominance. Finally to be stuck with a mutinous, undertrained workforce, hidebound management and tiny, archaic factories cranking out third-rate products. All the while clinging desperately to its past triumphs, or trying to make a cult classic a la Robin Reliant out of ugliness and obsolescence.

    British women are where the industry was in the mid 70s. Heavily nationalised, subject to the rigour of superior foreign competition, but still deluded as to their world class status, or even bare adequacy, where they still even care.

    Well, mine’s a Chink. Cheers.

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  180. ””””””Lord Lucan
    Whilst on vacation in Greece or Spain, I have often been greeted the following way – in broken and unfortunately *course English :

    “Hey Eeengleesh”

    “I fock your weemen”

    “I fock your queen”

    “Fock you”
    ”””””’

    Are you serious?

    Did you bring the demon?

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  181. American Fatness:

    Just went to IHOP today. Musta been my first trip to one in more than a decade.

    I was stunned by the size of the servings. I ordered the spinach and mushroom omlette, and got that (huge, really way too big, 50% larger than any omlette I had had before) and three pancakes on the side.

    My eating companions, who are used to IHOP, ate all of their food.

    Stunning.

    BTW, the food was really good. My companions love the hearty grain and nuts pancakes but you have to have the butter pecan syrup to go with it.

    But, with that kind of eating, what can you expect?

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  182. Fattness is not a reflection of greed, its a reflection of a lack of self-control and laziness.

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  183. on September 5, 2010 at 2:49 pm Cannon's Canon

    SIZE DOES MATTER

    but that statement, mean gene, comes true whether i’m in the ring or out of the ring. you see, when i have my freaks horizontal, they UNDERSTAND SIZE, they APPRECIATE SIZE, and SIZE DOES MATTER

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  184. Great Reason Magazine article on the American misperceptions of the British under class:

    http://reason.com/archives/2008/03/06/rant-take-them-back-to-dear-ol

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  185. on September 5, 2010 at 2:52 pm Cannon's Canon

    question: if big poppa pump only cares about two things in this world, his freaks and his peaks… is he a pedestalizer?

    i would argue no. having “freaks” is the manifestation of his game, and that’s what he cares about. any specific freak is interchangeable.

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  186. Brits make great house music!

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  187. @Lord Lucan

    “The fact that so many Greek, Spanish and Portuguese young men frequently boast of having had sex with British women … can only lead us to assume that they find British women very attractive”

    Or very easy.

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  188. NMH says, “Fattness is not a reflection of greed, its a reflection of a lack of self-control and laziness.”

    Distinction without a difference.

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  189. Morsellaux

    That being said…
    http://mahalofashion.blogspot.com/2008/08/woven-bags.html
    Scroll down past the bags. You may say she is exotic, but you can’t say she ain’t purdy.

    Yeah but how much white blood does she have in her? I also wouldn’t say she’s all that pretty. Not ugly though.

    Full blooded Aust. Aboriginies are also really dim in matters of logic and math etc., on average. They have some of the lowest IQ scores of any group in the world, in the low 60s. However these are fairly old tests. It’s been taboo to do IQ tests on them since the 80s I believe it was, when Australia started going through a major leftist inspired guilt trip about “the stolen generation” and Aborigines in general.

    They do seem to have really good visual memories though, on average.

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  190. Sdaedalus,

    “A lot of them will chat up a walrus if they think she’s up for it.”

    That’s out of desperation – things are bleak here.

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  191. Selma Hayek is half Arab (Lebanese). The half that is Mexican is no doubt heavily white (Spanish).

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  192. freak show—

    Among the findings, it was reported that of the 80% of the population that is mestizo, the proportions of European and indigenous ancestry are approximately even.

    Texas may get a fair proportion of those sorts of Mexican immigrants, but California and Arizona – and NYC and Chicago etc. don’t these days. We’re getting heavily Amerindian Mexicans from the southern states of Mexico and also Mayan types from Guatemala and small, thinner (but also not so bright) types from Nicaragua etc.

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  193. “How about Sudan, Mongolia, and Vietnam?”

    Are you shitting me? Mongolian and Vietnamese women make Krauts, Americans and Limeys look like orcs. I don’t know anything about the Sudan, but they’re probably now bloody fat cows either.

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  194. on September 5, 2010 at 3:37 pm Vincent Ignatius

    British women age horribly as it is. Throw a crappy diet and binge drinking on top of that and you have a recipe for disaster.

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  195. 18 year old white college chicks in the US are the hottest girls on Earth. If you try to say otherwise you obviously like taking dicks up the ass. Case closed.

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  196. Roissy, u are being copied by that rag, there are few outlets that even know what a man-jaw is.

    PRO ANA! DARNNITTT! PRO ANA!

    I’d like to see the stats of what is in the Brit’s food supply. Americans are fatter b/c they hate working out. The American food supply is GMO, soy, fat-ass land. Super sized!

    The foods are loaded with high fructose corn syrup, fat, and soy. Soy is in everything, that soy, plus the fats and sugar will ruin you. Then you will be a perfect speciment of those who seek to enslave with prescription drugs. Yep, you will need their drugs for heart health, diabetes, depression, etc. for the rest of your life a bloodbank for them alone.

    Dear Ladies, you are too fat and need to scale it back, like 500 calories per day, drink lots a water and workout everySINGLEday for 1, 2 to 3 hours – for the rest of the your life. you can “sleep, rest and relax” when you are dead. right here, right now is about hustle. (less talky more pretty). Only the serfish are fat. Yes, I am pro ana, sure its extreme but after 13 years of this lifestyle I am telling u it works.

    Dear men, never ever ever eat soy.

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  197. […] Brits Voted Ugliest Women In The World « Citizen Renegade Posted on September 5, 2010 by The LP 999 Brits Voted Ugliest Women In The World « Citizen Renegade. […]

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  198. @Doug1

    That being said…
    http://mahalofashion.blogspot.com/2008/08/woven-bags.html
    Scroll down past the bags. You may say she is exotic, but you can’t say she ain’t purdy.

    Yeah but how much white blood does she have in her? I also wouldn’t say she’s all that pretty. Not ugly though.

    I’d say she was attractive enough. I don’ t know how aboriginal she is.

    Full blooded Aust. Aboriginies are also really dim in matters of logic and math etc., on average. They have some of the lowest IQ scores of any group in the world, in the low 60s. However these are fairly old tests. It’s been taboo to do IQ tests on them since the 80s I believe it was, when Australia started going through a major leftist inspired guilt trip about “the stolen generation” and Aborigines in general.

    They do seem to have really good visual memories though, on average.

    Austronesian Aborigines, in Australia and New Guinea, may be as close as we get to speciation these days. There are two groups that seem to diverge hugely from the Human standard: Eskimos (who have some seriously impressive adaptations to the cold), and Australian Aborigines, where it doesn’t seem to be adaptation but time and genetic drift. It’s been estimated that there was no serious genetic mixing for maybe upwards of 30-50,000 years. So we’re looking at ancestral Human populations, there. First Homo Sapiens wave out of Africa, etc.

    — Also the note about weak genetics: Apparently true. They get swamped and buried by mixing with Europeans awfully fast. The genes just seem to disappear.

    — The mixed white hair among women and children seem to be a non-adult Male thing. It’s understudied, but is a specific genetic trait Australian Aborigines share, and not all groups. There’s a good bit of diversity among Austronesian peoples, especially in Papua New Guinea, where hill/valley/coastal people have less in common with each other, and individual valleys may have nothing in common with the next valley. The linguistic variety is shocking.

    Papua New Guinea is also one of the places where agriculture seems to have been invented, and a civilization of sorts took root, but the scope for large-scale development was very narrow– the land is like a fractured map, and what works in one place is useless one valley over, so you didn’t get a massive eco-zone where interchange was possible, like in the Med or in China.

    But there’s a massive cultural and obvious racial difference between the coastal people (who traveled all over by water and are legendary for being sophisticated and canny traders) and the hill-peoples (who are supposed to be, well, dimmer, more reliable, less violent as individuals but more violent as groups (something to agriculture in this?). And then there are the “valley People” – often cut off from all surrounding contact for generations, if not decades or centuries, and extremely resistant to change or outside influences.

    It’s all being overrun in Irian Jaya (the Indonesian side) by their Muslim colonial policies. Want to see what majority control by a Muslim population would be like? Go to Irian Jaya. You couldn’t imagine a less-PC kind of 3rd-world colonialism than in Irian Jaya. Makes Tibet seem like a privileged autonomous Swiss canton.

    But remember – just because the average IQ of an Australian Aboriginal may be 65 or 70 doesn’t mean they’re not human; a white person with an IQ of 70 is still a human.

    They’re just, … perhaps best left where they live, and not as immigrants to America.

    That said, I’ll put money on their genetics being massively destabilized by interbreeding, moreso than other groups: and that within a few generations of interbreeding, their average IQ scores will skyrocket to the new mean (especially if this is connected to laissez-faire economics).

    It only took a few generations to raise the IQs of our own ancestors after the advent of agricultural civilization; the same will be true for, say, australian aborigines, though perhaps it’ll happen much faster, as older genes are literally phased out or bleed off into nothing.

    THAT SAID,

    it might be salient to study these genetic makeups for our own historical purposes. We’re looking at parallel developments from a common ancestor, here, and there may be *superior* adaptations (or just drift) that we’re not aware of.

    I’m told that their memories are much better than the average white person’s (though this could be a result of not having been literate cultures – our own ancestors had remarkable memories before the spread of literacy and record-keeping), and that their visuo-spatial abilities are impressive; also that some groups of Australian Aborigines are able to digest things we have trouble eating (this is apparently *not* true for PNGs– which is interesting in and of itself, given the unique flora in Australia) and that the centers of the brain that govern creative thought are often more developed in Australian Aborigines than in anyone else – possibly accounting for the remarkably strange approach to religion all AA cultures have. It’s consistent, too, and seems to have parallels in PNG. It’s not inferior or superior, just possibly inherently different. Many anthropologists have noted it, and have said – it seems to hold true when they adopt Christianity, too. It’s like a qualitative difference, a different flavor.

    So something worth studying without the blindness of Blank Slate idealism.

    Still – *ugly* people by any foreign standards (black, white, Asian).

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  199. Tim

    nuclear negs

    haha. I’m going to have to remember that one. to be used only in extraordinary circumstances I’m guessing, and only on a 10.

    No.

    It’s to be used on ANY girl who things she’s really all that compared to you. It’s not to be used on a friendly fun girl who you’re clicking with.

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  200. Sdaedalus,

    “A lot of them will chat up a walrus if they think she’s up for it.”

    That’s out of desperation – things are bleak here.

    Is hard life alright.

    Sometimes I feel the same way when I look at the ruins that are many Irish men in their 30s, bellies at least 6 months and sometimes even 10 months pregnant. I know that looks are not supposed to matter in men but from the aesthetic point of view Irishmen are so naturally good-looking, it seems a shame.

    Imo most of the population should be put on a starvation diet and made walk everywhere. When we’ve done that we can consider further intervention re. bleach & fake tan (women) and nasal hair (men)

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  201. ””””’john
    18 year old white college chicks in the US are the hottest girls on Earth. If you try to say otherwise you obviously like taking dicks up the ass. Case closed.
    ”””””
    Yea we may have to start selling them to pay off debt.

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  202. I am not sure if I should take this as a vote of sympathy or a national affront.

    Probably the former.

    Actually the worst thing about them is the attitude. US girls can sometimes be reasonably friendly in London because they think I must be a gentleman (because I use words like ‘former’)

    Oh well.

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  203. ””””Doug1
    They do seem to have really good visual memories though, on average.””””””’

    ””””Gorbachev
    I’m told that their memories are much better than the average white person’s ”””””

    Same type of education perhaps?

    lol

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  204. How dare you.

    “Backward primative societies”?

    All societies are equal and beautiful. We must love and respect our brothers all over the globe.

    And what is this “beauty” you speak of?

    We should not judge others by the color of their skin, or by their appearance, or by their intelligence, or by their level of prosperity. Content of character is all that matters.

    There is no country called Britain today.

    There is only the mixing pot, a culture of cultures, with no official language, people, or religion. There are no morals or ethics, everything is relative.

    I don’t see any problem here. You are old fashioned Roissy. For the last century the most popular bromide was equality, that blacks are equal to whites, women equal to men, that the retard equals the genius.

    That woman in the picture is the equal of the most stunning Swedish model. You want equality, you got it.

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  205. The only reason this girl won anything was because the feminists took it as “progress” to choose a girl who wasn’t pretty to win a beauty contest. They are still in denial that what causes men to be attracted to women is almost solely looks. This decision helps them to rationalize their own deficiencies.

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  206. ”””””Cannon’s Canon
    SIZE DOES MATTER

    but that statement, mean gene, comes true whether i’m in the ring or out of the ring. you see, when i have my freaks horizontal, they UNDERSTAND SIZE, they APPRECIATE SIZE, and SIZE DOES MATTER”””””

    Until your wife wants to take all your shit then the only thing that matters is whether she thinks you will kill her or not for fucking with you.

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  207. ””””sdaedalus
    nasal hair (men)””””’

    We only grow that so you woman can feel needed and cut it out.

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  208. @GG

    Re nasal hair, pulling it out is far more fun than cutting it out.

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  209. With a tweezers, of course.

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  210. […] This is what happened right after I made out with a chain smoking English girl. […]

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  211. on September 5, 2010 at 4:21 pm Jack the original

    Man, I’m at an internship where I’m working for some fat, ugly chick. I hate it. Looking at her depresses me.

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  212. Maurice

    I’m a sucker for exotic, mixed-race types.

    Eurasians can be really hot.

    Chinese girls seem the least hot of the East Asians to me. Koreans, Japanese and Vietnamese all seem hotter. Well some far northern Chinese can be pretty hot. Tend to be tall too.

    Koreans probably have a good deal of that Mongolian, Genghis Khan blood in them.

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  213. MONGOLIANS

    I actually went there a couple of times, a few more to Nei Mongol (Chinese Mongolia).

    80% of the people in Nei Mongol are Han Chinese, they’ve flooded the place since WWII. Before, it was 1% Han. Getting close to that in other parts of China, too, even in non-Tibet /Xinjiang areas. The Han are just culturally exterminating and Borg-absorbing all of their minorities.

    That said, the actual *mongolian* women in China are fucking hot. The Chinese mention it, too. Tall, strong, fine-featured, large-breasted, hourglass-shaped, unconservative and fierce.

    Not fierce in a Feminist kind-of way. Fierce in the Fuck With Me and Taste This You Asshole kind of way: IE, *YOU* be the man. They’re renowned for having bad tempers and respecting men with authority.

    The rural ones are also famous for being very loving, devoted, and sweet and caring; and loyal. They have high tolerances for being with foreigners (they’re surrounded by people who are, effectively, foreigners – the Chinese).

    The Mongolians in Mongolia are also 3rd-world hot; the young girls are often heartbreakingly attractive, though they get the Matronly Communist effect as they approach 35. The food is shit, and their lives are hard like rocks.

    But when young, … they’re stunners. This girl is not atypical of mixed Chinese-Mongolians I saw, though obviously hotter than most:

    http://cute-china-girl.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html

    She’s in the US but she has the same look.

    Here’s some women Ghengis Khan would have appreciated. Not stunners, but nothing to throw out of your bed for farting:

    http://www.jurgita.com/models-id106815.html

    http://www.jurgita.com/models-id26376.html

    http://www.blogger.com/profile/13043987371537877354

    She was murdered in Malaysia, after her career was largely over:

    http://www.shareapic.net/content.php?id=12040401&owner=smartho18

    Sogderel is a famous Mongolian model, now lives all over but principally in the States:
    http://www.myspace.com/398746378/photos/albums/album/1392706

    And this model has a *very* typical Mongolian look, though is more petite. She’d be considered “normal” in Mongolia.
    http://ferenc.biz/beautiful-mongolian-model-ocsi-budapest-hungary/

    And last,

    http://wn.com/Mongolian_model_miss_Selenge

    Some of these models aren’t exactly super hot, but like most North-Asian countries, there are far fewer ugly women, and not a huge number of super-hot women, but the actual average (and therefore what the average guy gets) is much hotter than anywhere in the West.

    I’d say, if the average in the States (white chicks) was a 4 or 5, the average in Mongolia was +1 or +2 more, and they age better. They definitely age better than Western girls.

    However, the average in Korea is about +2 better than anywhere in the West. They’re acknowledged to be the hottest girls in Asia by other Asians. Getting a Korean wife is the prize-par-excellence for a Chinese guy. Assuming she’s not fucking your hot Alpha friend behind your back ( a highly likely scenario), she’s something to brag about to your friends. Major, major status-symbol.

    Ugly white chicks are also popular, but only as prizes: They get to steal the White Man’s Women. And any Asian guys with moxy don’t do it.

    Also beautiful are the descendants of the Manchus. In NE China, they were the barbarians that made up the last Imperial dynasty. They conquered the place without much effort or loss on their side. The language they used was unrelated to Chinese, the people looked more Siberian than Chinese, and they were fucking huge: Tall, built like tanks, legendary warriors. By the time they took over, the Mongols were peaceful and had gone back to sheep herding. The Chinese tried to buy them off one too many times (like the Romans and the Huns), and then the Manchus just said: Gimme. And started killing people.

    Lesson: Never buy off your enemies. Fucking kill them, throw your soldiers into the line of fire, devote yourself to winning, but don’t fucking buy them off (Muslim oil, anyone? Pakistan?).

    But their women were famous for not being like the delicate little Han women, and the men were hulks that smashed skulls for fun. So if you liked tall, strong-looking fine-featured Asian women, with big breasts, wide hips and who look like they’d give you big, strong sons, these were the women for you. You just had to get by the phalanx of Manchu men who’d break every bone in your body and feed you your own testicles if you tried. They had nothing but contempt for the smart, but, shall we say, “gracile” Chinese.

    Their descendants are mostly in the 3 NW-provinces, along with lots of ethnic Koreans, who are left outside their country’s more natural borders (damned Chinese). Korea was once relatively large.

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  214. Actually if you Google Miss Surrey, 2008 you’ll see that while she is chubby she is also quite attractive. You may have blown it on this one.

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  215. Gorbachev–

    There’s a good bit of diversity among Austronesian peoples, especially in Papua New Guinea, where hill/valley/coastal people have less in common with each other, and individual valleys may have nothing in common with the next valley.

    I thought coastal New Guinea had a good lot of Malays or mixtures, going way back.

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  216. I am starting to feel sorry for British women. Any other country in the world (excepting maybe the US) men would come on here and defend their women. It seems like most of the British men commenting are only insulting them further.

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  217. No, I’ve stopped in at places on the coast of Papua and New Britain that are commonly only visited by STDs and can confirm that the real poon is to be found in New Georgia.

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  218. Kane–

    One is that style has mostly disappeared from England, in favour of a chavvy political correctness. It is interesting that the attractive English women listed in an earlier comment are all from a time gone by (sixties and early seventies) when English style was concrete and real. Now style is seen as a form of capitalism and frowned upon, even though the ugly Englishwoman is an extremely consumerist beast.

    Stylish English women are openly hated by the over-entitled female pack. There is some kind of mythical “sisterhood” which says that elegance and style is dressing for success and success with men, both of which are “bad”. The over-entitled tubs of lard believe that they should be get whatever they want without any effort. These women are hugely aggressive, protected by socialism and completely lacking in any kind of personal dignity. These are the pint-drinking, foul-mouthed women who puke outside pubs.

    Very interesting insightful comment.

    Cursed socialism.

    The combination of Britain’s generous dole and the university educated upper middle class (usually called middle class there) affecting lionizing the working class – and even often considering underclass and heavily criminal chavs to be part of the working class – does seem pretty decadent.

    Will the voting out of “new” Labour have any effect?

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  219. laura

    what have women in the uk done to inspire men to defend them?

    men don’t care about what they can’t own. these women have made themselves “the enemy” to men by being whores, race/culture traitors, competitors and free agents. they wanted to be treated like men? well men don’t rush to white knight other men

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  220. Gunslingergregi

    Are you serious?

    More serious than you might think.

    There is a British film called Shirley Valentine which is ironically tagged as a comedy, when in fact it is gritty realism.

    It is not unknown for our Southern neighbours to boast of the number of British women they have, erm… seduced.

    There is a joke spread about by haters and anti-latin racists that that the Spanish and Greeks don’t count British women as conquests, but rather just use them to practice on.

    That may be so.

    But if British women were really that ugly, surely these macho latin lovers would want to keep their British conquests a secret?

    They don’t boast about the sheep.

    It is most likely they are trying to say that they consider British women to be amongst the most beautiful of ladies and they are simply expressing their latin macho pride in having the good fortune to have slept with several thousand of them.

    No, British women are known for their beauty, whereas British men are known for their drunkeness and tendency for unprovoked violence.

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  221. Rich–

    Even a couple of generations ago, the idea of buttsex would have been met with reactions along the lines of – why the hell would you want to put that “there”? Apart maybe from a few gay English lords. Because of the repitition in movies, porn and magazines of the anal sex meme

    The prevalence of the anal sex meme in the hetero US at least is a lot more recent than that. It was rare in 70s porn. It only got really big in the 90s in so called gonzo porn, from which it spread. Well it might have started as a thing in the mid or late 80s but only got really big in the 90s.

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  222. xsplat–

    You [Laura] disagree with every single male attitude. Why the hell do you make your pointless and vapid comments here?

    I wish you would not be here.

    No she doesn’t at all. She may disagree with you alot. Sometimes you have lots of interesting things to say and sometimes you go on disagreeable and/or chest beating tears.

    I like having her here.

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  223. i witnessed the straight wall in the adult room at the vid store i managed go from normal heteroporn to all gonzo, gangbang, tranny and anal overnight when we got a gay porn buyer. the push for anal sex acceptance is gay rights agenda propaganda. it removed the arrow “anal sex is unnatural” from the anti gay quiver

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  224. Mu’Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    The ugly races are :

    Australian Aboriginals
    West Africans
    Amerindian Mestizos
    Sri Lankans, Javanese, etc. (very similar to Austronesian people)

    These are races where you could see thousands of women without ever seeing an 8 or higher.

    Almost all other races have at least OK women…

    Amerindians vary a lot. The ethnicities that tend towards being thin and better thin and tall can often look attractive. The squat ones not. For some reason Central Americans tend towards the squat type as do e.g. Pueblo indians. Many Brazilian Amerindians are pretty attractive (though most of those not deep in the Amazon basin have been absorbed into the “white” Portuguese population, I believe. E.g. the Brazilian Amerindians in the area around what’s now Rio de Janeiro were apparently very attractive. Some Columbian and Venezuelan Amerindians must be too, since mostly white but not entirely mixes from there are often very hot girls.

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  225. Gorb you know we could be related lol
    I was born in south kingstown he he he

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  226. on September 5, 2010 at 5:24 pm fat women are worthless

    Is there any purpose for fat girls on Earth? Seriously. They make me sick. They don’t deserve to live. They should all be rounded up and should undergo experimental medical procedures. Great advancements in medical care and drugs could be achieved if these undesirable subhuman animals could be used for this purpose.

    I hate seeing innocent animals like rats have to suffer in the name of medical advancement. I would much rather have fat women undergo these procedures. After you are done with them, just super glue the bodies together and throw them in the gulf of Mexico whenever another oil leak happens to plug it up.

    I am so happy everyone agrees with me.

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  227. Too chubby. And looking bitchy. The former is do-able in lesser degrees, but the kind of women who believe that a bunch of crap in their faces compensates their Michelin bodies are a major turn-off. Dusty cheeks.

    Looking like a monkey. Another turn off. Looking too much like a dude. But I put value on women who are actually likable company, so dunno.

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  228. @Doug1,

    All these guys who go on and on about Eastern Europeans and American girls (who are, frankly, overhyped and unattractive, by and large) and who say that only losers make their way to Asia, because your own race is obviously more attractive and if you have to go elsewhere you’re beta —

    These guys have *never* been to Asia. I appreciate all kinds of women, I’ve even “appreciated” a few attractive black women, who are a remarkable species of human female, incidentally, and I’ve tasted pretty broadly wherever I’ve been. I’m not indiscriminate. I might call the line at the Troglodytes from the island-village scenes in 2005 King Kong – truly a great depiction of regression if anyone ever wanted to see it – BUT:

    I tell you, people, overall, North-East Asian women are just fucking hotter than women elsewhere. Nowhere is the average attractiveness level so damned high. Not even in Eastern Europe. I’ve only ever been to Moscow and the American stomping grounds (Czech republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, etc.), but as hot as the chicks there are, they’ve got serious competition in Asia.

    I don’t have Asian fever. I appreciate the world of Woman. But I don’t segregate the Asians out, either, as some sort of Not-Quite-Acceptable like many white guys do.

    All of the stereotypes are wrong. First, many Asian women aren’t short. Many have natural large breasts, especially in Vietnam and the Southeastern contries (Elly Tran Ha, with that .6 HWR, perfect ass and F-size breasts is, gasp, natural), so the myth of tiny breasts is largely that. Once you started feeding these women, like in Korea, kaBANG suddenly the next generation had actual breasts. Same in China. There are some quite naturally large-chested Chinese women.

    They age better, too. Western women know this: Almost any Asian at the same age will look 5-8 years younger than an equivalent Western woman. They also (gasp) tend to be more ambitious (personally) and *smarter*. Their parents expend huge efforts to make them more girly and have girly accomplishments (art, music etc.), at which they excel far and beyond what fat, lazy Western women ever achieve. That’s just a fact.

    If Western women want to get a hate-on, they absolutely have to start hating these Asians. They are, as Human Females, in every possible way, just superior and better. The same can’t be said of the Asian men: As *men*, they’re not superior. But the women, holy fuck, do they put Western women to shame and then some.

    Dudes who go there and have Asian girlfriends usually come back and think they’ve landed in the World of the Trolls.

    When you speak the language, Asian women often become better partners all-around: obliging, supportive, decent, fair, but above all else: Women. They’re also competent in a way Western women aren’t. And not fat, did I say that yet?

    Unless you’re a White Brand only kind-of guy, you don’t need to have yellow fever to appreciate Asians. Damn, seriously, stop thinking of Lilgrl for a moment. In Asia, she’d be normal at best. She may be in good shape, but she definitely has delusions of grandeur. She’d be a solid 6 or 6.5 in Asia, at the very best; she’s got a nice body, but not a great one, and she’s not *pretty*, as in a feminine/girly way. She’d probably agree with that. In Asia, women aren’t seen as hot because they’re athletic; the cultures de-stress athletic prowess, especially for women. So Lilgrl is absolutely an *American* female. As an *American* female, shes hot enough. In Asia? No. She’s hot there as an *American*, exotic woman. She’ll disagree with this, bit as a not-fat athletic woman who isn’t ugly and is living in the US, she’s practically a goddess here given all the ugly fat people. In Asia, she loses all of these advantages.

    She can think what she wants, and there’s lots of reasons for men to give her attention, but as a “hot Asian”, she’s way down the list.

    So stop thinking of her and take a stroll down Club Street in an Asian city. Bring whiplash medication.

    Go to Korea. Go to Gangnam at night, when the girls come out. I SWEAR literally *EVERY SINGLE FEMALE YOU SEE* will be hotter, more sexy, more charming and 100x more fuckable than *ANY* woman you ever find in DC or London. I can say this with certainty.

    NYC Might have some hotties, but this is a function of it being an international city. LA attracts the best of the best, and usually the worst of the worst (in terms of personality), and it’s weighed down by hordes of truly unattractive Mexicans.

    Even small towns in Korea have hotter women than small towns in the US (actually, this is an understatement: *way* hotter than small towns in the US). I speak as a guy from a small town.

    In Korea or a big Chinese city, it becomes a game of trying to pick a damned target. You get one GF, and you think: HOLY SHIT, but *THAT* chick is hot, too, and in a different way, and what about *THAT* one? You almost get Hot Chick Overload. It ceases to matter.

    What if one chick if hotter? If you previously had $1000/$1010/$3000 chicks in the States, and you thought you were doing pretty well. You get to Asia (say, Korea) and one chick is $50,000 and the next is $55,000 an the last is $75,000, the actual difference between them physically becomes almost irrelevant: they’re just so much hotter than any women in the city you come from that it makes no fucking difference. And you can have a *harem* of them. I exaggerate only slightly. All you need is basic game, not even advanced game, no shame and some cultural adaptability.

    Men who don’t admit this just haven’t been there. I swear, if I were 22 out of college, I’d do this:

    I’d get a work visa, get on a fucking airplane and kiss this Godforsaken country goodbye for at least 5 years. I’d teach English in Korea, spend a year in Japan for sure, work in China, and stop off in Ukraine on the way home. The US is a wasteland by comparison. And that’s not an exaggeration. US College women are a total waste of time.

    Any guy who has half a brain and can learn another language should drop whatever fucking plans he has and go to Japan or Korea as the accessible place and China as the hard-to-do-but-interesting place. Maybe throw in Vietnam, because they love Americans there (You’re very welcome because they love the fact that they won the war and they have no hatred for Yanks now).

    If Korea is great, and China is fantastic, then Japan is like a sexual free-for-all. Seriously, Japanese girls are hugely judgmental, but if they *do* find you attractive, you’re in for the (often weirdest) hottest sex ever. With super-hot girls. With absolutely no inhibitions and who see sex as a sport. A huge proportion of Japanese women are like this. But it’s the one place in Asia you’re best advised *not* to fall in love. Most Americans I know there sport-fuck their way through an endless succession of women. They don’t keep harems, because there’s no point. And each woman is hotter than the last. I don’t know it that well except from limited experience and stories, but the non-ugly American guys I know there never want to leave. Black guys get some of the hottest action, too. Black men who make it there are often asked why they like it. Don’t listen to them. They’re getting so much crazy sex if they leave they get soul-ripping withdrawal symptoms. Coming back to the States is like going into sexual exile. I exaggerate not. I know black guys who spent time there, one as a commercial actor, and he said: coming back to the States was like going to some sort of female-free prison filled with frustrated men.

    The white Americans over here who make blithe comments about foreign women or Asians don’t know shit. Any young guys reading this have to get the hell out of this country. If you’re lucky, you’ll meet a nice one and can bring her over. Serves the women here right.

    I think a lot of White Nationalist men are frustrated. They should learn the obscene advantages of enthusiastic miscegenation by going abroad. It’ll give these provincial bozos a new appreciation for what it is to be an Alpha Male with the entire world’s female population available and being able to settle for something not as shitty and utterly disappointing as a feminist, Socialized, fat, ugly, bitchy American woman.

    If more of these White Nationalist men actually met some of these Asian women, I guarantee you one thing: There’d be a lot fewer White Nationalists.

    Standard white woman – Standard Asian woman: In every possible measure, from sex to partnership to mate – the Asian girl is *Far Superior*.

    i remember hearing conversations in NYC between white women about how much Asian women were blah blah this and blah blah that – and the underlying tone was: We hate them.

    I don’t have one. But then again, I’m after the Best Snowflake I can find, the nicest all-around girl. I’m ignoring my own suggestion. But I want the individual girl. Ethnicity matters little to me, in the long-run. I don’t particularly care. I just know what I see.

    Any “loyalty” to American white women is utterly misplaced. There are lots of great American women, but there are so many more entitled ugly stupid ones, it’s like it’s a dying breed.

    For a player, Asia is either heaven or unadulterated torture for depth and quality of companionship. And then add in the underground sex sub-culture of loose women (and men) that goes unspoken and unheralded, and geez – it’s like a sexual free-for-all for Alphas in the land of the Genetically Blessed.

    I hear all these complaints from white guys who say – well, then, asshole, just go there. Get out of this place if you hate it so much. But I’m as nationalistic as it gets. These guys are largely white proles or small-towners who don’t have passports, only like women who look like their cousins, and drink wine from boxes. Not to be too assholish about it. They generally don’t know shit, and if they did learn a little, would swallow every word they said.

    Seriously.

    And anyone who called Vietnamese and Mongolian women “yawn” or “whatever” …

    Probably likes fat, arrogant, nasty drunk disease-ridden white chicks fresh off the Carousel of Disgust Me.

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  229. @Doug1,

    Yeah, coastal NG is more mixed. Lots of Malay blood, even Chinese, and some white. Lots of sailors in the 1600-1700’s jumped ship and said, screw that life, these islands are paradise, and went native. The island is riddled with stories like that, Indian/Chinese/Dutch/English sailors, even leftover WWII Americans!

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  230. ”””””’Lord Lucan
    unprovoked violence
    ”””””””’

    But when they disrespect you to your face it is not really unprovoked is it lol

    Yea I could see asians getting pissed at me talking about asian chicks but asian dudes get white chicks in us so we even he he he

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  231. Ok well maybe not even if you count the child support checks the dude has had to write I guess not even lol

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  232. @Laura,

    British men don’t defend their women. I’ve had lots of discussions with them about not how ugly British women are, but how classless they are – rude, obnoxious, severely slutty, drunk, — basically, … a more extreme version of British men.

    I think British men who go abroad feel it more deeply than those who stay there.

    BTW, there’s a class of Australian girls who are similar. You find them in the seedier bars and pubs around the English-speaking world. But the same is true of their men, so, … that’s likely not a gender-thing.

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  233. Be carefull out there foreign guys he he he

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  234. @Guns
    Gorb you know we could be related lol
    I was born in south kingstown he he he

    Were ya?

    May be.

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  235. Ode to divorced western men.

    Should be played on loop until west falls off the cliff.

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  236. September 5, 2010 at 5:34 pm Gorbachev

    I’ve had lots of discussions with them about not how ugly British women are, but how classless they are – rude, obnoxious, severely slutty, drunk, — basically, … a more extreme version of British men.

    Hahaha, I am, of course, having a bit of fun.

    Not all British women are the caricature I have painted.

    Beautiful, intelligent, classy and virtuous British women do still exist.

    Although there is a certain amount of truth in the things I have alluded to. And, unfortunately, as is so often the case, a very visible minority make the remainder look as bad as themselves.

    Nevertheless, the vacations in the Mediterranean, I have caricatured, do point to a culture clash.

    Southern Europe, with its Catholicism or Orthodox Christianity influencing its culture, is backward and oppresses women.

    Britain has embraced the future. Britain has embraced the Gramscian Marxism another poster mentioned.

    Britain has taken on board the insights and revelations of the Frankfurt School.

    I am proud to say that we British have aborted over half a million babies since legalising women’s right to choose.

    In parts of Britain, in Wales and North East England, the majority of children are born to single mothers. In these regions, we can look forward to children reaching their full potential, freed from patriarchal oppression.

    Tractor production is up, and so is STDs and HIV.

    Onward comrades!

    Onward!

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  237. @ReaderLon

    That Penny chick is fucking horrid. I bet even Viagra pills won’t work with her boy.

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  238. Lies and propaganda. This video clearly shows that British women are equal in beauty to some of the most beautiful women in the world:

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  239. Lord Lucan

    Southern Europe, with its Catholicism or Orthodox Christianity influencing its culture, is backward and oppresses women.

    The are far more balanced in the treatment of the sexes than the Anglosphere with it’s divorce laws 2.0 and at least in American guilty until you are proven innocent Violence Against Women act, where a simple slap or even your domestic partner saying she was afraid of possible violence are enough to get a man arrested, thrown in jail, have to hire a lawyer, and thrown out of his dwelling which he may be entirely paying for via an order of protection, even if she doesn’t want one or wants it to be lifted. It won’t be typically for three months at least, and that’s if she’s against it the next morning. Oh and draconian and hair trigger sexual harassment laws which can and do cause men to lose their jobs all the time for dating coworkers or asking to, or just when a woman is pissed at him for office politics reasons.

    I think I’ll take Southern or Eastern Europe.

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  240. Tractor production is up, and so are STDs and HIV.

    Forgive me comrades, my passion overwhelmed my grammatical abilities – or sumfink.

    wipes away tears

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  241. Gorbachev said:

    “And anyone who called Vietnamese and Mongolian women “yawn” or “whatever” …

    Probably likes fat, arrogant, nasty drunk disease-ridden white chicks fresh off the Carousel of Disgust Me.”

    Not true. I like the fact that the girls you posted were not fat, and there’s nothing wrong with going overseas to look at girls, but asian girls can’t hang with white girls as a whole. A random, slim college co ed white girl beats these girls and the asian women that were posted are models. If you can find pictures of random on the street asians that are hot, I would be convinced.

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  242. Gorbachev dating asian chicks is fucking beta.

    And before you ask I’ve had the misfortune of having to live in Asia for years.

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  243. Gorbachev —

    Go to Korea. Go to Gangnam at night, when the girls come out. I SWEAR literally *EVERY SINGLE FEMALE YOU SEE* will be hotter, more sexy, more charming and 100x more fuckable than *ANY* woman you ever find in DC or London. I can say this with certainty.

    Dude, I know you like to write ten-thousand-word posts, but there are times when you ought to write less for the sake of editing more. This is one of those times.

    With the above statement, you’ve either (a) completely discredited yourself, or (b) outed yourself as someone whose asian fetish is so extreme that none but other asian fetishists should bother listening to you. So, in other words, you’ve either discredited yourself or discredited yourself.

    xsplat

    I like them micro mini and neotenous . A thick heavily cleft upper lip, like a suckling infant. Big eyes, like a child. Childishly high voice, childishly playful, and carrying the latent power and heat of a volcano.

    I’m told that most men like their women to be put together in a more mature and companionable fashion. And taller than 5 feet.

    Western girls all look huge to me. Even with a pretty face, it would be like fucking a quarterback.

    This is about as close as anyone will ever get to an outright admission of pedophilia. Way to go.

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  244. Cee your not listening it is white chicks that can’t hang with asian chicks on the whole.

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  245. You guys also need to read the study.

    The study regards only women who travel. Therefore, it’s no surprise that the Americans, Brits, and Germans were labeled the ugliest — because those are among the very few countries in the world where the middle and even lower classes can afford to travel around the world.

    If an Eastern European woman can afford intercontinental travel, chances are that she’s from the upper crust — a confounding variable that, ceteris paribus, makes it more likely that she’ll be better looking.
    Like, duh.

    The same thing is also going to happen if you use, say, “best-looking college students” as a proxy for “best-looking 20ish women”. Again, that sort of study would favor those countries in which only the richest and most otherwise blessed get to go to college.

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  246. Yea qualifying to cee is rather funny he he he

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  247. Doug,
    Thanks for the defense. I like being here, but I probably will be commenting less since I’m running out of things to say.

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  248. @Maurice,

    Hey,

    Yeah, in Korea, there’s about 15 different “looks” women have, and about 7 for men. The women are hotter, on average, but you’re right – fewer “super hot”.

    Lee Hyori is about as hot as they come, though if you’ve seen Song Dambi, she’s fucking scorching when she dances. But that’s a result of super-fine figure and being 26 years old. At 35, she’ll be more Korean Matronly, for sure, but likely still hot for her age.

    But I’d say there were fewer 9’s and 10’s, and also fewer women below 5.

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  249. British women are undoubtedly the heaviest drinkers.
    http://www.greenfacts.org/en/alcohol/figtableboxes/table7.htm

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  250. @Cees,

    No pictures on the internet I could find in 30 seconds.

    Iim telling you: the ratio of hot girls there to plain janes or ugly girls is so much better.

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  251. @King Leopold
    Gorbachev dating asian chicks is fucking beta.

    And before you ask I’ve had the misfortune of having to live in Asia for years.

    Okay. Sure. I’ve dated my fair share of hot white chicks, too. They’re fine.

    There’s just *more* hot Asian chicks per capita than hot white chicks. Denying this is perverse.

    There’s also more non-ugly Asian chicks.

    A hot white chick is much rarer, and her SMV is consequently through the fucking roof.

    Once you get over yourself and worrying if other men are going to see you as beta for dating an asian women, you realize: Poon Factory.

    Who gives a salty shit what other men think?

    When you can get both, you cease to care.

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  252. “Dude, I know you like to write ten-thousand-word posts, but there are times when you ought to write less for the sake of editing more. This is one of those times.

    With the above statement, you’ve either (a) completely discredited yourself, or (b) outed yourself as someone whose asian fetish is so extreme that none but other asian fetishists should bother listening to you. So, in other words, you’ve either discredited yourself or discredited yourself.”

    Gotta agree with dalerojo on this.

    How in the hell does gorba write these long ass posts? He either types really, really, really fast or spends a huge amount of time on Roissy’s blog. I am going with the latter.

    As for his claiming East Asian women as the hottest in the world…well, East Asian women don’t seem to be dominating international beauty contests. The winners of the Miss Universe contest, for instance, mostly come from Latin American countries or European countries.

    Nevertheless, must not be too hard on gorba. I have a friend like him. He took a trip to South Korea and came back with lots and lots of pics of him with “hot chicks.” In reality, the chicks were really cute, but hot…no.

    You have to have a bit of an Asian fetish to rank top-of-the-food-chain Euro babes lower than the top Asian girls.

    Sorry, gorba, you have an Asian fetish.

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  253. dalerojo:

    With the above statement, you’ve either (a) completely discredited yourself, or (b) outed yourself as someone whose asian fetish is so extreme that none but other asian fetishists should bother listening to you.

    Politely, no. Gorbachev definitely likes Asians and hasn’t shown evidence of being a hardcoooore playa (but more than successful enough with different ethnicities, and not exclusive yellow fever).

    The statement you quoted by itself isn’t sufficient for discredits. There’s clearly some exaggeration, and its a very good point about the relative charms compared to London/DC.

    Also, yes your class point is valid, but you also seem to be demonstrating little awareness of British women (and feel free to correct me about that) by implying that the judgement of ugly is due to this variable alone.

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  254. @Dalerojo,

    I arrives in Korea never having dated an Asian in my life; never been interested. I was taken to Clubland in Korea, and then night spots like Gangnam and Myungdong.

    I remember clubland and whatnot from NYC and LA and Miami. They were “okay”. Some clubs were great.

    The average pub in Korea has more hotties than the average club in Boston or DC. Not a fat chick in sight. Nice curves. Well-built. Often very pretty.

    No stunners, maybe just a few; but not one ugly chick. They don’t go out.

    Gangnam at night. Ever been there? I exaggerate only slightly. Head-turning all night. All the Western men, Asian fetish or not, say the same thing after having been there. It becomes almost boring and your standards go way, way up. Then you come home.

    Fat; belly hanging out of too-tight shorts; sexy cigarette dangling from arrogant face; Fuck Me heels and Gimme attitude.

    Please. Give me a break. You’ve obviously never been.

    I’ve been told there are parts of Tokyo that you practically need an Ugly License to travel through if you’re not hot.

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  255. @Bhetti
    dalerojo:
    With the above statement, you’ve either (a) completely discredited yourself, or (b) outed yourself as someone whose asian fetish is so extreme that none but other asian fetishists should bother listening to you.

    Politely, no. Gorbachev definitely likes Asians and hasn’t shown evidence of being a hardcoooore playa (but more than successful enough with different ethnicities, and not exclusive yellow fever).

    Many assume if you date outside your race you have a thing for the other race, else why date.

    I just don’t have a preference for any particular race. I like hot women. Pretty much. Though I haven’t seen to many hot Australian Aborigines, not that I hang out in Alice Springs or anything.

    <I.The statement you quoted by itself isn’t sufficient for discredits. There’s clearly some exaggeration

    I NEVER Exaggerate. EVER.

    , and its a very good point about the relative charms compared to London/DC.

    I didn’t mention NYC for specific reasons. Lots of hot women there. Overpriced. Also, many foreign.

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  256. The only problem with Koreans as opposed to other Asians is the layer-cakes of makeup the really vain wear.

    The prettier girls don’t clown themselves up as much.

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  257. Nationality matters not. Dating a woman you yourself view as ugly because you figure you invented bottomfeeding is beta.

    It’s one thing to love a woman despite her flaws, and quite another to be in denial of them.

    Asian women tend to be healthier, and take better care of themselves, and therefore prettier, on average, than Europeans outside of France and Eastern Europe. If someone said Polish women are prettier than Asian women, I could see their point, but Americans??? You’re blind.

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  258. “That said, I’ll put money on their genetics being massively destabilized by interbreeding, moreso than other groups: and that within a few generations of interbreeding, their average IQ scores will skyrocket to the new mean (especially if this is connected to laissez-faire economics).”

    Unfortunately, it’ll never happen like that, as nothing is any longer connected to “laissez-faire economics” (i.e. actual evolutionary pressures.) Leftists will step in and encourage them to rent-seek from guilty whites and they’ll likely follow the path of least resistance and their fate will be no different than that of American blacks whose culture denigrates cognitive eugenics.

    Like I’ve said before, best case scenario is you get the underclass of mixed race (black + low IQ white [+ Indian-Hispanic in the US]) and the overclass of mixed race Asian + above average IQ white.

    These days it’s easier for any two people with IQ of 120 to relate to each other than to someone of their own race with an IQ 90, or even 100. I believe Murray is essentially correct and this is where we’re headed.

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  259. Whenever I see a man talk about women being oppressed, my first thought is does he really mean difficult access to easy sex?

    A lot of the time, I find that in the rhetoric of anti-feminism, that women are blamed for feminism and its successes. Yet what I observe and experience directly from patriarchal societies is that women act as the main repressors of female sexuality (reinforced by reading Baumeister’s paper on it) are women. The main enablers of feminism seem to be men.

    Women by default are subservient to authority and the social status quo acting as their enforcers, whilst men have the authority, the taste for rebellion and set the ideological agenda. Men relax the moral codes governing the survival of patriarchy first. In sum, men have the political and institutional power and without men in power wanting and enabling different flavours of feminism, it wouldn’t have happened. On the surface, the freedom of men from a traditional male roles is a liberation and the ease of restrictions around sex is overall to their advantage, with some losers in the mix who would have ordinarily netted more sex and better wives with their earning power under a less feminist regime.

    That said, I think in America it came to a point where women were given too much power… and that’s the point when these short-sighted men couldn’t take the power back.

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  260. A slogan for this blog:
    Everything in moderation.

    I know it’s a faux pas to laugh at one’s own jokes, but it’s just… so funny.

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  261. I NEVER Exaggerate. EVER.

    I admit not knowing if this is sarcasm.

    The never ever suggests it is so.

    100x hotter?

    Is the beauty scale logarithmic?

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  262. Gorbachev-

    What the fuck are you talking about? Any country in Europe save the British Isles has a higher % of hotties then any where in shit hole China. God 75% of the chicks in China have rotting teeth and are complete savages. Japanese women are freaks.

    I want a women for marriage not any one night stand bullshit. So fuck having to come to children who look nothing like me.

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  263. @Original JB
    “That said, I’ll put money on their genetics being massively destabilized by interbreeding, moreso than other groups: and that within a few generations of interbreeding, their average IQ scores will skyrocket to the new mean (especially if this is connected to laissez-faire economics).”

    Unfortunately, it’ll never happen like that, as nothing is any longer connected to “laissez-faire economics” (i.e. actual evolutionary pressures.) Leftists will step in and encourage them to rent-seek from guilty whites and they’ll likely follow the path of least resistance and their fate will be no different than that of American blacks whose culture denigrates cognitive eugenics.

    There’s something sad but likely true to this.

    The group as a whole would be better off by some selective pruning. And according to leftist ideology, this is unacceptable. All you need to do is let market forces and selective pressures for breeding apply. It’s a question of rewarding which actors and behaviors. If you just reward everybody, even provide greater rewards to the most useless, … you end up with *really* inequitable situations, like where a genetically far superior elite just absolutely lord it over an inherently weaker or inferior prole population. And how the hell is that even remotely fair to anybody, the rulers (taxed/hated) or ruled (oppressed/detested)?

    It’s because leftists have assumed the Blank Slate – All People Are Born Exactly Equal myth. It’s never been true, fortunately or unfortunately, and unless you have a society of clones, never will be true.

    The leftists just fuck up everything. Ultimately, what results comes back to bite them in the ass, and they end up with exactly what they didn’t want. And then there’s no way to avoid it, and it all falls apart.

    We could pity them for being deluded, instead of hating them, except that it’s our own society they’re playing Experimental Buggers with.

    Like I’ve said before, best case scenario is you get the underclass of mixed race (black + low IQ white [+ Indian-Hispanic in the US]) and the overclass of mixed race Asian + above average IQ white.

    If we were to let it go its course, though, you’d end up with a reasonably high-IQ aboriginal Australian population, more likely some new and self-identifiably distinct “race”.

    I read that there’s a group of central Africans that regularly score very high on tests of mental aptitude and do well in music and math. They’re total outliers and seem to have the best of all worlds – athletically gifted, naturally well-dispositioned and very smart. I read about them in a few places, but they remained under-studied and were minor players in whatever country they were in. But they were a distinct ethnic group, widely suspected of being Overachievers and thusly resented by other Africans. Central Africa somewhere. Maybe someone can find the reference for me.

    These days it’s easier for any two people with IQ of 120 to relate to each other than to someone of their own race with an IQ 90, or even 100. I believe Murray is essentially correct and this is where we’re headed.

    It’s true. Despite what white nationalists say, and they say it a lot, Upper-class white culture and Asians have far more in common with each other than the generally depressing proles we seem to be generating these days.

    The white lower classes and the urban black ghetto classes are horrifyingly similar in many ways.

    When you see Asians with whites, it’s always with the brighter and more successful whites; their kids are going to go on to run the country, much to the chagrin of the “white” proles, or whatever’s left of them.

    Talk about race traitors. When you get right down to it, a smarter member of another race is really better as a mate, most likely, than a stupid member of your own.

    Which just goes to show you want race really means, in the end. A nice, flexible, rubbery category that we get to redefine every few generations.

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  264. @Bhetti
    I NEVER Exaggerate. EVER.

    I admit not knowing if this is sarcasm.

    Sarcasm? No way.

    The never ever suggests it is so.

    100x hotter?

    Is the beauty scale logarithmic?

    Damned right.

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  265. @Kane:

    It is interesting that the attractive English women listed in an earlier comment are all from a time gone by (sixties and early seventies) when English style was concrete and real.

    Great post. I would like to add that the women I mention above were for the most part ladies in an exemplary sense of the word. Marianne Faithful had an adventurous personal life and may fall short of the above praise. However, you never heard a shameful word about any of the others in the press. When I was a kid, in the 60s, British women were considered the hottest around, made popular by the British Invasion. I was in love with Julie Andrews as a kid. I thought she was the most beautiful woman in the world. I still feel that way about Julie Christie and Dianna Rigg too. Labor has done untold damage to Britain after 13 years.

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  266. on September 5, 2010 at 7:50 pm nicoles fat ass

    Nicole: Shut the fuck up you fat fucking obese black rhino. You are the most vile and physically repulsive woman on Earth. Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion. Find some rope and hang yourself. thank you from everyone

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  267. @King Leopold
    Gorbachev-

    What the fuck are you talking about? Any country in Europe save the British Isles has a higher % of hotties then any where in shit hole China. God 75% of the chicks in China have rotting teeth and are complete savages. Japanese women are freaks.

    France is pretty good, but Germany? Switzerland?

    I only, ahem, “dated”, in Shanghai and Beijing. Big cities, pretty girls. Way prettier than big cities in the US. Can’t talk about Russia.

    Shanghai and Nanjing and especially Suzhou (the whole Triangle area) have amazingly hot women. Okay, lots with bad teeth, that’s what Quality Dentistry gets you over there.

    Aside from the teeth, they’re bubbly and hot hot hot. Less than Korea, of course.

    Japan: Of *COURSE* they’re freaks. They’re Japanese. I talked about *HOT*, not non-Freakishness.

    I want a women for marriage not any one night stand bullshit. So fuck having to come to children who look nothing like me.

    Okay, well, then I understand your prissiness.

    And for marriage, I’ll bet you, an average Korean or Chinese will give you smarter and better-looking kids than an average Russian will. Those Asian-European mixes seem to have lots of hybrid vigor.

    Hottest girl I ever dated in Korea was half-Korean half-Dutch. Damn. Never thought I’d get that again. Hot enough to marry before she ever opened her mouth.

    Alas, she was, shall we say, something of a, … princess.

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  268. I don’t sarge the local girls

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  269. Bhetti–

    Is the beauty scale logarithmic?

    hahaha

    Only for Gorbachev.

    For the rest of us it’s a bell curve distribution, with 5s being the most common and 10s and 1s being damn rare. 9s are pretty rare. Your typical hot nightspot in a chick magnet city might not have any 9s on a particular night, or one or two. It will generally have a few or maybe quite a few 8s. And so on. The two biggest chick magnet cities, LA and Manhattan have more 9s or course, though not in outlying areas. LA has more 8s 9s and 10s than NYC I think.

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  270. krauserpua

    I don’t sarge the local girls

    Yeah I definitely noticed that in your day game blog w/ tons of videos.

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  271. Maxim #102 seems void of empirical value. The hottest babes are from Sweden, Norway, Denmark or Italy, all pretty well developed countries.

    Other than these countries we might have Russia (and the Baltic countries) and Latin-America (which is probably what you were thinking about to arrive to your wrong conclusion).

    Seems to me that genetics trumps economics.

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  272. Gorbachev–

    Japan: Of *COURSE* they’re freaks. They’re Japanese. I talked about *HOT*, not non-Freakishness.

    In what ways exactly?

    I’ve heard that Japanese wives cheat a hell of a lot with white gaijin.

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  273. Gorby

    You’re a nice enough guy, but seem to have yellow fever in the extreme. I think most guys would say that 5-10% of asian girls are attractive , compared to 15-25% white women – all other things constant. A slim white girl beats a slim asian upwards of 80% of the time.

    There’s something about Asian faces a lot of men like me just don’t like. A blandness…I can see why some people think they all look the same.

    That Elly Tran Ha girl for example == meh. Nice boobs, but wouldn’t want to have anything to do with her above the neck.

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  274. Gorbachev–

    I’m willing to believe you when you say that Koreans are the hottest of the E. Asian girls. Though I think a lot of Vietnamese girls are real hot too. Again I especially like Eurasians myself. Probably not so many of them. But steppe warriors often have at least a little Caucasian in them being wide ranging and conquering peoples, and Koreans probably have a bit of Mongol steppe people blood in them.

    I think your tremendous attraction to Korean girls was that:

    1) your were mostly in Soul which gets the hottest Korean girls (LA and NYC combined);

    2) there were a lot of 8s where you were and tons of 7s, and the number of girls out at nightspots below a 6 were limited;

    3) as a white American guy working in media who was obviously super educated, could soon speak the language a little and was culturally savvy (and the real or rumored dick size of most white guys compared to most Korean guys might factor in too), you were a pretty rare, exotic and highly desirable catch for largely surreptitious, discrete casual sex (but not marriage material at least not if you stayed in Korea);

    4) as a result of 3) and having at least a little bit of game in the beginning, which the way you were treated there by hot Korean girls enabled you to quickly ramp up a good bit (nothing like being pursued by tons of hot chicks to enable aloofness and not chasing game), you became a solid alpha (male 9) for the first time in your life, and as you got a rep for being a player and good in bed, that only helped your alpha status – hell maybe these factors made you 9.5 alpha in the Korean environment for casual sex;

    5) because of all these factors you got to bang as many different 8s and 7s as you wanted more or less, and have simultaneous medium term relationships with them aka harems, and perhaps bagged a 9 or two as well.

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  275. Doug:

    Yes, but is the 6 100x hotter than the 5…

    and so on? 😉

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  276. Back on topic, British ugliness has been something I’ve been pondering for a while now. The women on tv…shocking.

    Someone mentioned Effy for Skins being okay-hot, and that even she is half-Brazilian. You’ll notice even Effy had deep, deep wrinkles on her forehead and crinkly eyes, and she was about 16 on that show.

    Something about English life is extremely aging, and they seem sickly genetic stock to start with.

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  277. on September 5, 2010 at 8:42 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    Doug1,

    Amerindians vary a lot.

    Yeah, I am talking about the pure ones. Guatemalans, Bolivians, etc.

    I think Mexicans in the US would get a lot less heat if their women were better looking.

    I think black people would get almost no heat if they 1) were a lot less violent and 2) had better looking/thinner women

    HBD hostility is a lot simpler than people make it out to be.

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  278. Bhetti

    @Doug: Yes, but is the 6 100x hotter than the 5…

    hahaha

    In my catting around and racking up numbers days I’d sleep with a 6 if a hotter girl wasn’t available to game that night, esp. if the 6 had a nice hourglass figure, looked and acted sexually hungry, and had a good personality. I wouldn’t put to much work in, but if it was fairly easy, sure. Not so a 5. I’d have to be real drunk for that and still didn’t do it much at all.

    Anyway it’s occurred to me that one of the reasons beta guys and to some extent higher beta guys have so much trouble getting laid these days before girls start looking hard for husbands is the following. (Higher betas can generally get a good girl girlfriend who’s a 6 or 7, but have a hard time getting casual sex from girls of that physical attractiveness level. And also have to really work at catching their girlfriends. Long wait times etc. )

    Porn but also highly sexualized Hollywood entertainment and even ads lead all kinds of guys to simply no longer be attracted to girls who are less that a 6, and sometimes not less than a 7. I mean not attracted at all.

    Sure I think the main problem is the anti slut shaming feminist messages and resulting slutification factor leading 6’s and 7s to chasing alphas of one sort or another and settling for casual or short fling sex with them, rather than demanding commitment — which they could only get from beta 6 and higher beta 7 guys as a general rule. But not the only factor.

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  279. Julie Christie was super hot in Dr. Zhivago. Also in another early role, Darling – where she plays a real femme fetale status climbing bitch, but a very hot and charming bitch.

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  280. You’d think that if Europe had a country of fat people, it would be someplace with decent food like France or Italy! Not to “dis” Britain, but nobody goes there for the food.

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  281. I need more facts. I’d like to see video footage of what she said to pull off this victory. Truth is, if you’re happy and self reliant, go ahead and be fat. My friend Chip made a good point though- nothing tastes as good as thin feels

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  282. Whoever picked this fatty is making a statement. I would like to know who was behind the statement.

    Egalitarianism is a revolt against human nature.

    Once again, beauty is despised. We’re all the same. The good has been debased and usurped by the ugly and the hateful.

    I wonder what the psychological effects of this constant push towards cognitive dissonance is doing to us. I do not think it can be good.

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  283. if the 6 had a nice hourglass figure, looked and acted sexually hungry, and had a good personality.

    Personality for an ONS, huh?

    Higher betas can generally get a good girl girlfriend who’s a 6 or 7, but have a hard time getting casual sex from girls of that physical attractiveness level. And also have to really work at catching their girlfriends. Long wait times etc.

    To be fair, getting laid without commitment would be difficult pre-feminism because anti-feminism is pro-chastity. That said, girls would commit in younger years and more easily to decent men, as opposed to hopeless alpha chasing.

    Porn but also highly sexualized Hollywood entertainment and even ads lead all kinds of guys to simply no longer be attracted to girls who are less that a 6, and sometimes not less than a 7. I mean not attracted at all.

    I wonder how much it is of an influence. Like you said, drink helps. And those more porn leaning seem to be happy with breast implants added.

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  284. Bhetti said:

    I wonder if there’s an ethnicity that all other ethnicities find more attractive, as I remember this post by roissy suggesting a little or if we tend to prefer someone from our own ethnicity. As that post also partly suggested. Well, it seems to be a combination but the marked tendency is towards like-seeks-like assortative mating.

    I’m honestly starting to think that most people go for certain features that are similar to themselves. For example, I’m a black guy but I have white features (kind of like Obama), an aquiline nose and square chin/jaw, and straight hair. I can honestly say I don’t find non-white features attractive, it’s like they don’t do anything at all for me. But what’s funny is that when I was young, I only liked slender white girls. As a teen going through a rap phase, I liked black women with big asses because of videos and social pressure from other blacks. I stopped listening to rap and limited my exposure to blacks, white girls again. I agree that people can be influenced but like the editor said, what you really want is in the hindbrain.

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  285. @Doug1
    Gorbachev–
    Japan: Of *COURSE* they’re freaks. They’re Japanese. I talked about *HOT*, not non-Freakishness.

    In what ways exactly?

    I’ve heard that Japanese wives cheat a hell of a lot with white gaijin.

    Pretty much. Size matters, at least when you’re playing tourist with the gaijin.

    Oh, and attitude. Lots of Japanese women are burned out from the lolita-spanky weird sex they get from Japanese men. When you can get them to stop screaming like little girls and you haven’t done anything yet, they’re actually pretty okay. I’m not into BDSM, but the few times I tried to get into the culture, it was in Japan.

    F*R*E*A*K*Y.

    All that weird shit you see in Japanese porn? Par for the course with some women. Of course my sample size was relatively small, and was messed up by one seriously freaky “opis girl” (office girl). The hottest one, a flight attendant, was relatively white-bread, or should I say plan rice, vanilla, though energetic, but there was a … methodical matter-of-factness about Japanese woen that got to me, especially the flight attendant.

    In truth, my sample size is insufficient to come to any conclusions. But I recall one black Canadian guy who was living on business telling me that they’ll give blowjobs like nobody’s business and are fascinated by well-spoken black men. Well-spoken to overcome fear; black, because it’s more animal-ish. He didn’t mind the overt racism.

    One story: He was sitting with a co-worker (female, white, might have been a GF for all anybody knew) and this girl walks up, pretty made up, tight dress, and hands him her business card. Smiles, puts her hand on his (sitting down in a food court or something) and says, call me sometime.

    The woman he’s with is aghast. Some Japanese chick came up and made a blatant sexual pass at him, and they could have been a couple.

    Such was, he said, the fascination in this large non-Tokyo city with Big Black Men.

    He said: If you’re not ugly, not an asshole and can learn some Japanese, there’s no excuse for *any* gaijin not to get laid more or less constantly.

    Contrast w/ Korea. NO way that happens in the open. And you need more cultural adaptability. You need more EQ.

    In Japan, though, remember: Theyre using you. The same guy also said, no matter what you do, never, ever fall in love with the sex-tourist girls. They go off and brag about it or say, “notch”, and you’re done.

    Note that the Japanese guys stopped fucking their women a while ago.

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  286. Bhetti–

    To be fair, getting laid without commitment would be difficult pre-feminism because anti-feminism is pro-chastity. That said, girls would commit in younger years and more easily to decent men, as opposed to hopeless alpha chasing

    There have always been lower class and lower middle class sluts (American terminology, substitute working class for Britain) in Euro and offshoot countries. Lots of them too at least in certain times. What feminism brought is lots of upper middle class, upper class and middle middle class sluts. (Well there have also always been some upper class sluts, though usually older ones.) The biggest increase of sluts from feminism has been in upper middle class and lower upper class sluts I think.

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  287. Bhetti–

    The upper middle and lower upper class girls are most subject to being influenced by political propaganda now taught in most American and I’d presume British universities in the social sciences and humanities.

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  288. Dream Puppy–

    Egalitarianism is a revolt against human nature.

    Good that.

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  289. @Doug1
    Gorbachev–

    I’m willing to believe you when you say that Koreans are the hottest of the E. Asian girls. Though I think a lot of Vietnamese girls are real hot too. Again I especially like Eurasians myself. Probably not so many of them. But steppe warriors often have at least a little Caucasian in them being wide ranging and conquering peoples, and Koreans probably have a bit of Mongol steppe people blood in them.

    Koreans are about as purely Asian as you can get. They traditionally hated mixing, killing mixed babies without remorse. They hated the *Chinese*, for God’s sake. The Chinese call them “han People” (Han ren) – not for Han CHinese, but for the Han River (in Korea). The Koreans call themselves by the same name. They’re proud of the fact that, while submitting to foreign powers almost constantly, they paid tribute and sent their pretty daughters out to marry foreign kings but were effective at keeping the interlopers out. Foreign armies were free to steal women – and take the resulting children with them.

    To say they have a chip on their shoulders is an understatement.

    But – their culture is probably the direct descendant of the one that built the ancient monoliths (Go-Indol) all over Korea. It may be the last serious survivor of the N.E. Asian – Siberian culture that got out-bred by the Han-ish people from SE Asia, ie, Chinese. Lots of speculation about that. WHen you look at Korean culture, the pre-confucian layer, it seems very, … shamanistic. So, in a small way, they may be more closely related to the Bering-Strait N. American Indians, root-wise, than to the SE Asians.

    Blah blah blah. Anyway.

    How the hell would I procrastinate and avoid work without this blog.

    I think your tremendous attraction to Korean girls was that:

    1) your were mostly in Soul which gets the hottest Korean girls (LA and NYC combined);

    Pretty much. Gwangju was a bit of a disappointment, as was Taegu. I was also in *downtown* Seoul, right downtown, where all the hot girls on the make and the bored housewives were. Were I in Ilsan or Inchon, it would have been different.

    2) there were a lot of 8s where you were and tons of 7s, and the number of girls out at nightspots below a 6 were limited;

    Yup; few 9’s. More here, per capita, than there. IE, current GF. Rare everywhere, but more in the eastern US than in Seoul. But there were times when it seemed like every girl in Seoul was a 7 or 8. Not always, but, …

    Most of the non-racist fuck foreigners felt the same way.

    Not the foreign women, of course. They went largely unsexed. I remember one not unattractive black woman who was there for 2 years and she said she couldn’t even get frustrated soldiers to fuck her, NSA. Meanwhile, the black guys had miniharems. The white guys had all-out harems. Some fell madly in love.

    Despite the racist sensibilities of Koreans, their youngun’s are marrying out in shocking numbers (for Koreans).

    Canadians

    I know of one subset of foreign women doing well: Canadians seem to marry anything that moves. In Korea, all the Canadian guys had one (or two) regular GFs, and unlike the rest of us, lots of Canucks married these girls. Maybe they’re more used to mating with foreigners? Also, the Canadian *women* were often dating Korean guys, not in as large numbers, but I knew 3-4 couples where the woman was white and the guy was Korean, and in every case, the woman was Canadian (corn-fed Midwestern types it seemed). The Canadian ambassador told me in 2005 that there were 57000 Canucks there, outnumbering Americans and Australians combined, and lots of them ended up getting married. I wonder if they stay in Korea or move home.

    The Aussies also marry Koreans a lot, though I can’t get what a Korean would want with these guys – they’re awesome at parties, but I’ve rarely seen any sober when I’ve been abroad. Of course, I’ve rarely seen many Korean men fully sober on Friday or Saturday nights, either.


    3) as a white American guy working in media who was obviously super educated, could soon speak the language a little and was culturally savvy (and the real or rumored dick size of most white guys compared to most Korean guys might factor in too),

    Thats true, accordng to every woman I was with. Except for this one Irish guy, holy shit, I think I heard about him from at least 4 different women. I assume it was the same guy. He was high-profile and must have gotten around. I mean, if I heard about “this irish guy” from different women, only one of whom I slept with, then there’s either some thing with Irish guys or there’s one very proficient, well-endowed Irish Sex master out there.

    you were a pretty rare, exotic and highly desirable catch for largely surreptitious, discrete casual sex (but not marriage material at least not if you stayed in Korea);

    Absolutely. Well, one girl decided I was marriage material. It’s too bad; she was, too. Absolutely. I was retarded.

    Korean society is opening up, but if you marry one, and have kids, chances are you should leave. Life there for kids is shit. Think of how the men work. Triple it and add in extra activities.

    4) as a result of 3) and having at least a little bit of game in the beginning, which the way you were treated there by hot Korean girls enabled you to quickly ramp up a good bit (nothing like being pursued by tons of hot chicks to enable aloofness and not chasing game), you became a solid alpha (male 9) for the first time in your life, and as you got a rep for being a player and good in bed, that only helped your alpha status – hell maybe these factors made you 9.5 alpha in the Korean environment for casual sex;

    Okay, sure, it was for sure the right place for me to be at that time in my life, but this vastly proves my point: 22-27 year-old American guys with some brains and social skills should Get Themselves The Fuck Over To Asia.

    It was like a damned education in Game. The tighter the game you have, the better.

    But it doesn’t help the reputation of Americans any. That said, the Korean men fuck around as a matter of course, all the time. Prostitution is huge there. I think the men resent that we get the poon for free from otherwise respectable girls. And damn, they really have to start fucking their wives. There’s a Korean saying: Once your wife is a mother, she can’t be your wife. I knew 28-35 year-old women who were respectably attractive whose husbands had sex with them maybe, … once every 2-3 months. It was sad, but they had contract-like arrangements. Very common. As a disconnected male, completely outside social circles, foreigners were perfect.

    But seriously. Great p[lace to get your basic game education. It doesn’t fall off the trees, but if you learn the rules, you can pick the high-flying fruit. I recommend it for all young searching-for-themselves men.

    5) because of all these factors you got to bang as many different 8s and 7s as you wanted more or less, and have simultaneous medium term relationships with them aka harems, and perhaps bagged a 9 or two as well.

    More or less. But I knew lots of guys doing this. There was this fattish but powerfully charming guy who actually taught Korean and worked at a university and worked for the government, from the States, who had good game and he just scored super hot woman after super hot woman. He had a serious GF who was 3 points higher than him, at least. Un befucking lievable.

    Americans who don’t go abroad don’t get this shit, but whether it’s Eastern Europe or Asia, when you get back, you just can’t believe the waste of time American women are. Not all of them, but… damn.

    Seriously, the best American men should just go abroad. Who cares about the race or miscegenation. That’s for the proles who never go out of state.

    The world is big. As American English-speaking men, we have a closing window of time to enjoy it.

    Of course, I’ve been domesticating myself slowly over time. After as while, you get sated.

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  290. PS

    I type fast and never edit.

    And there’s no better reading when waiting for retards to get their work done than blogs, people.

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  291. Cee–

    For example, I’m a black guy but I have white features (kind of like Obama), an aquiline nose and square chin/jaw, and straight hair. I can honestly say I don’t find non-white features attractive, it’s like they don’t do anything at all for me.

    You sound 60% or more white.

    Obama is genuinely 50/50, but his father was N.East African. They either have backflow Arab admixture in there, or were partly on their way to being Arab Caucasian when that branch of out of Africa got established, the latest genetic research indicates.

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  292. @Nickolas
    Gorby
    You’re a nice enough guy, but seem to have yellow fever in the extreme. I think most guys would say that 5-10% of asian girls are attractive , compared to 15-25% white women – all other things constant. A slim white girl beats a slim asian upwards of 80% of the time.

    Find me some slim white girls. Find me some slim white girls who are more attractive over the age of 25. 30. 35. Want marry one? Who ages better?

    I love white girls. Most women I thought were really hot were white. Also, there are fucking fewer of them. Most are fat. Go to a country where virtually no-one is fat.

    The hot white girls here think they’re 7’s and 8’s and 9’s when they’re 5’s, 6’s, and 7’s. At best.

    Their pussy is priced so high because 50% of the women are fat.

    Sure, there are lots of hot white girls. Line up for them.

    Go to Korea and tell me that the odds aren’t better there. It’s all a numbers game when it comes to this.

    The hottest women may still be white. The 10’s. But the mass of 7’s and 8’s in Asia totally make up for the lack of 9’s and 10’s.

    And when there are 9’s and 10’s – holy shit.

    It doesn’t take Asian Fever to bring men to the same conclusion.

    By the same token, it must be something in the water in Poland or Ukraine, right? Why are so many Eastern Europeans or Czechs hot, and so few Brits or Americans?

    *SAME* deal in Asia. Just a different race.

    So long as you don’t actually dislike Asians for their race, all things being equal, Asia > America.

    There’s something about Asian faces a lot of men like me just don’t like. A blandness…I can see why some people think they all look the same.

    This is true. So if Asian faces don’t turn you off, … Asia > America all the time. E Europe > America, for that matter.

    That Elly Tran Ha girl for example == meh. Nice boobs, but wouldn’t want to have anything to do with her above the neck

    She was pretty enough face-wise. Body atypical, cartoony, but note the salient fact: Not fat.

    Not

    Fat

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  293. Gorbachev-

    The only “miscegenation” I have a problem with is black males and white females, esp. if the white girl is at all attractive.

    The reasons why are:

    1) the huge remaining hostility of the black community in general towards whites, even if the black husband doesn’t share that (many of his friends and the contemporaries of any kids of the marriage will); and

    2) the fact that any offspring of the marriage will be considered black not mixed by the black community with overwhelming pressure, which will alienate the child from his/her white mother and especially grandparents and other relatives. Further the child will in the overwhelming majority of cases look a lot more black than white. The social pressure will happen if not before from the black relatives, when the child goes to school. At least any school with any significant number of other black children in it.

    3) I also have some problem with the fact that the main attractiveness of black men to white girls is their more or less thugishness. I believe in alpha agressiveness, but I also believe in civilizational advance. I’m not sure most black men bring that so much. Actually I think in many ways non feminism feminized white guys (i.e. before gen Y) were the happy medium between E. Asian conformity and wimpyness but smarts, and African aggressiveness and non conformity but not so much smarts. Whites being more like E. Asians in mental abilities but more like blacks in physicality, aggressiveness and creativity.

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  294. As noted above, Kate Beckinsale is very nice. Romolo Garai is fine.. Gemma Atherton… There are a few… Like we all know though, in every place the non-pretty vastly outnumbers the pretties.

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  295. @Doug1
    1) the huge remaining hostility of the black community in general towards whites, even if the black husband doesn’t share that (many of his friends and the contemporaries of any kids of the marriage will); and

    I buy this.

    2) the fact that any offspring of the marriage will be considered black not mixed by the black community with overwhelming pressure, which will alienate the child from his/her white mother and especially grandparents and other relatives. Further the child will in the overwhelming majority of cases look a lot more black than white. The social pressure will happen if not before from the black relatives, when the child goes to school. At least any school with any significant number of other black children in it.

    I’ve seen this. Sad, but true. You want to think it won’t be like this.

    3) I also have some problem with the fact that the main attractiveness of black men to white girls is their more or less thugishness. I believe in alpha agressiveness, but I also believe in civilizational advance. I’m not sure most black men bring that so much. Actually I think in many ways non feminism feminized white guys (i.e. before gen Y) were the happy medium between E. Asian conformity and wimpyness but smarts, and African aggressiveness and non conformity but not so much smarts. Whites being more like E. Asians in mental abilities but more like blacks in physicality, aggressiveness and creativity.

    That seems to sum it up. But note that there’s a huge difference when it gets to culture: If black American lower-class culture, and from it much of the rest of black culture, wasn’t so “oppositional” and fucked up, there would be fewer thugs. The ones more inclined to thuggery wouldn’t be seen as heroes or cool and would end up in jail. You can correct a lot with culture. Black culture in this country is vile.

    There’s a good debate going on over at Obsidian. A guy named Chuck absolutely Pwned Obsidian and his self-induced stubborn blindness.

    http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/chuck-ross-black-men-fitting-in/#comment-16406

    And this is his blog. Never saw it before.
    http://glpiggy.wordpress.com/

    I think most research shows that whites are similar to Asians, which makes sense given the contact over thousands of years (it’s more of a gene cline or continuum, less discrete worlds) and the fact that they seem to have had the same selective pressures over time. Different white and North Asian nations seem to be very different, too.

    But I think the White bell-curve is broader and there are more outliers than the Asian curve: more brilliant Whites, like the rare true geniuses, and more really stupid whites, with the Asian curve slight to the right in general for Visual-Mathematical IQ. Not only does that seem to fir the evidence, it’s apparently true.

    One thing that strikes me hard is the variance between tropical – cold climate peoples. In Asia, you get the 1 STDV between north-south, too; I’ve read enough about the disease resistance and (obligatory) genetic adaptation to accept that this is one possible reason for the variation. It’s true that tropical peoples are heavily resistant to disease, but the metabolic effects of this are suspected to be quite demanding.

    Too bad we can’t do some experimental genetics and see what more effective trade-offs can be made, without waiting for chance, inference, speculation and PC-limited examination.

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  296. I don’t dislike Asians for their race. I find them unattractive for their faces. I think the 7-8s you point to would be 3-5s for me – simply because they’re not to my taste.

    I have close female Asian friends at uni, but I’ve never had a sexual thought about them ever. Not once. They’re probably pretty for their race. Or so I hear. I can’t even imagine kissing them.

    The Asians-age-better argument is another one I just don’t buy. Yeah, a 9 white girl drops to a 6 or a 5 in a period of 10-20 years. But I’d rather have that window of hot hot hot than a perpetual 5.

    You’re lucky of course – if someone does find Asian women attractive then they’ve hit the jackpot. But as someone who doesn’t, I’d rather have quality than quantity. A country filled with millions of 5’s and a handful of 6’s – no matter how non-fat – is just not appealing.

    It’s not like I’m a white nationalist either. Polish and Ukraine girls do nothing for me. That Tallinn clip CR posted some posts ago had me scratching my head. I like the Mediterranean look. North indians, and persians are probably my favourite.

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  297. To echo something already said by other commenters, below is a list of the countries of origin of all the winners of the Miss Universe contest.

    The list is mostly comprised of European girls and Latin American girls.

    Notice that very few Asian countries, other than Japan and the Philippines, have ever even won the Miss Universe contest.

    Also notice that a woman from the U.K. has never won the Miss Universe contest.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miss_Universe_titleholders

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  298. @Gorb

    Thanks for all the compliments. There are a lot of exceptions to what you have stated. However, I hear your experience of Asia was memorable!

    I do agree, we all do age better. I really think it’s in the genes. You should see my grandma!!! She is amazing and my mother. It helps when we have British blood hahah!!. It’s funny you all are saying how ugly Brit women are. What makes me stand out from other Chinese women is my British blood.

    Personally, I find British men quite handsome. Was in UK 5 years ago and was pleasantly surprise.

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  299. I bet that fat British Chavette Renegade pictured has a fuckhole that stinks so badly that innocent bystanders think her queefs are real farts.

    That would be one way men could insult fat women into being properly ashamed of their lardassery: constantly inferring that they smell like barnyard animals and not ladies. The few times in my life Ive lowered myself to have one-nighters with piglettes, Ive noticed that repugnant stench making its way up from her crotch to my helpless nostrils. Its an instant hard-on killer, and a man deserves an Academy Award/Purple heart for continuing the bang……..its like a pitcher being willing to tough it out on a injured arm for his team, or a running back staying in the game despite a pulled hamstring. Your intincts tell you something very foul, indeed evil, is present, but you soldier on for the team.

    Maybe thats why the British wont fix their teeth. Why bother?

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  300. doug-why should you care how blks view a biracial child. just worry about you and yours view of the kid for God sakes.

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  301. Doug —
    Your arguments there actually have some validity to them, but you’ve hollowed them out by adding “esp. if the white girl is at all attractive” to the beginning.

    If those were your real arguments, then you would feel no compulsion to add that qualifier — because your arguments are equally applicable to attractive and less attractive white women alike.

    The qualifier, though, suggests that you have other, more visceral, reasons for feeling this way.
    What are those?
    You may as well state them, as this is one of the few places around where your audience is going to be all-around sympathetic to whatever that justification may be.

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  302. on September 5, 2010 at 11:59 pm Mu'Min Seeks FAAAAT WuMin

    Doug1,

    The only “miscegenation” I have a problem with is black males and white females, esp. if the white girl is at all attractive.

    This is very infrequent, and I don’t worry about it :

    1) Hot white women reproducing with black men is very rare. A man had to be as famous as Tiger Woods (half black) to get Elin Nordegren.

    How many other examples are there of an attractive white woman marrying a black guy? Name a few celebs..

    2) Black men find very different features attractive than white men do. More simply, black men like ’em fat. Chris Rock said this many times. Hence, even the black guys who could get a white hottie still seek out a fat white woman.

    Rising obesity makes American woman less attractive to white men, but MORE attractive to black men. Modern America is a paradise for black men.

    So the white hottie + black guy combo is exceedingly rare.

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  303. SV Warrior

    you’ll see that while she is chubby she is also quite attractive.

    She has an attractive FACE. Her body is unattractive. As a person, who has a body, she is therefore not attractive overall.

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  304. Oh, and, the fact that those aren’t your real arguments is even more transparent from the fact that you specified white female / black male.

    Viz., your points #1 and #2 would actually carry a lot more weight if you looked at white male / black female pairings:
    #1 would be a bigger issue because the black community is much, much, much more hostile to white men than to white women. This is a general truth obvious to any American with two eyes.
    #2 would also be a much bigger issue, because, as you’ve stated on here (correctly) innumerable times, father-child bonds are much, much more likely to be severed — both naturally and, especially, in the current family law environment — than are mother-child bonds. Therefore, if a white mother’s connection with her half-black kid is in danger, then a fortiori ANY white FATHER’s connection with HIS half-black kid is in mortal peril, from day one.

    So, yeah. You’ve actually done a pretty nice job of smoke and mirrors here, but you’ve shown your hand with two cards — 1) “black man / white woman“, and 2) “esp. if she’s at all attractive”.

    What’s really going on behind the screen?

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  305. I think you’ve mentioned before, Doug, that you appreciate Laura’s comments here. What about them do you like? Does she say things that are informative or entertaining to you?

    I think you just enjoy females quite a lot, regardless of what they say. Me too, but not where conversation is what’s being shared.

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  306. T,

    Notice that very few Asian countries, other than Japan and the Philippines, have ever even won the Miss Universe contest.

    What are you talking about? Can’t you read?

    From your own link, it shows that for the last 20 years (1991 onwards), there has been no winner from the EU, and just 1 from Russia.

    3 Asian countries won, India twice and Japan once.

    4 countries won twice each : USA, Mexico, Venezuela, and India.

    There were even 2 winners from the Caribbean : T&T and Dominican Republic.

    Europe is conspicuously absent from the last 20 years of winners, which completely invalidates your claim.

    Going back over 20 years ago is useless today. Many countries outside of the West were too poor to send candidates.

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  307. Whites being more like E. Asians in mental abilities but more like blacks in physicality, aggressiveness and creativity.

    Wow. Supremacist much? Heil Hitler!!

    A glass half-full approach. The half-empty approach would be ‘whites have less mental abilities than E. Asians and lesser physical abilities than blacks’.

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  308. Doug

    The combination of Britain’s generous dole and the university educated upper middle class (usually called middle class there) affecting lionizing the working class – and even often considering underclass and heavily criminal chavs to be part of the working class – does seem pretty decadent.

    Fredoneverything agrees with you that the current state of anti-intellectualism is one of the proles thinking they are as good as anyone. Which they aren’t.

    Equalism=feminism.

    I believe that women are wired to think improperly. Maybe it helps them to raise children equally, or something. But they can barely think, and don’t do well in adult conversations, usually.

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  309. I suppose that is a big difference in our social attitudes towards women, right now, Doug. You are more inclusive then I am. I’m quite the snob, and feel quite superior to them, and feel they very often are uppity and try to rise above their level, as if everyone were equal and had an equal voice.

    I’m an equalist in that I’m just as likely to tear into a male for being uninteresting or stupid as I am a female. There is no chivalry left in me. I disdain women for thinking they are men’s intellectual equals, while at the same time demanding kid gloves treatment. If they are going to be boring, they should do it among the women in the kitchen.

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  310. Holy shit, its the missing link!

    Thats one ugly broad.

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  311. You’d probably be good with kids, Doug. You’d enjoy family dinner conversations with the women and children.

    Some of us prefer to sit at the adult table.

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  312. xsplat:

    I like them micro mini and neotenous . A thick heavily cleft upper lip, like a suckling infant. Big eyes, like a child. Childishly high voice, childishly playful, and carrying the latent power and heat of a volcano.

    I’m told that most men like their women to be put together in a more mature and companionable fashion. And taller than 5 feet.

    I’m quite the snob, and feel quite superior to them, and feel they very often are uppity and try to rise above their level, as if everyone were equal and had an equal voice.

    oh xsplat, haha. women get more interesting after they hit puberty.

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  313. x2, did you know that women have neotenous features? Do you prefer neotenous features in women?

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  314. Gorbachev you make a valid case and you have made me very curious about Asia. I have friends who have done the Japan thing and wish they had never left, I think it is a case of seeing is believing.

    However, i think you are wasting your time on some of these people here who are too far brainwashed on what the media tells them what is beauty. I mean in America we have a 25 yr old “actress” who fell the need to get 10 plastic surgery procedures in one day. Not to mention a certain socialite who has already had lots of plastic surgery and a no talent person like kim kardashian, who has had butt implants.
    These ladies are considered beautiful in North America and they are not even attractive and they are fake to boot.

    Anyone with a brain knows that white women are done once they hit age 30, everything falls apart and the scary thing is that is happening sooner. Why do you think Botox is so popular?

    Finding nice women in the UK, good luck. Countless times I have seen women pissing on the street after a drink up at a local pub. Add that to the other social problem of women fighting each other after drinking too much. These are the same girls who go on holiday (mediterranean destination) and sleep with more as much men as possible. Ask any local brit about places like Malia or Magaloof (otherwise known as Shag a loof.

    As for Russian girls, ask Mel Gibson what he thinks of them! lol

    Yes it is only natural for people to want to marry there own kind, but putting down other races is just dumb. I mean these stereotypes are just laughable.

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  315. xsplat,

    in the first part of that post i quoted, you gave the perfect description of a small child:

    I like them micro mini and neotenous . A thick heavily cleft upper lip, like a suckling infant. Big eyes, like a child. Childishly high voice, childishly playful, and carrying the latent power and heat of a volcano.

    now, one can even conclude that you enjoy the company of women who look like small children and not the company of small children until the next part of your post:

    I’m told that most men like their women to be put together in a more mature and companionable fashion. And taller than 5 feet.

    by “more mature and companionable fashion,” we can only assume you mean “adult”

    i get that you like child-like women. but if you can really tell me you wouldn’t also fuck an 11 year old, well, then you’re just splitting hairs.

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  316. Stunning. I miss and love you. Bring me home a Twix bar.

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  317. x2,

    You didn’t answer my question.

    And in case you are actually interested in something about me personally, and are not just poking around trying to find a weak spot to stick me in, I’ll answer that I have no attraction to pre-pubescent girls.

    But I doubt you care. Not really.

    Now answer my question.

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  318. Cee: “A random, slim college co ed white girl beats these girls and the asian women that were posted are models.”

    You, sir, an idiot. I don’t even like Asian girls. I don’t like the way they look, I don’t like the way they smell, and I don’t like the way their brains work. I’ve only dated a couple in America, and most of them, I’d like to erase from my memory. However, Gorb is exactly right: authentic, “not made in USA” Asian girls are otherworldly in their beauty. He’s not exaggerating even a little bit. I practically live on a college campus, and I kick myself on a daily basis I didn’t move to Seoul and start my business there when I had the chance. Mind you: I don’t even like Asian girls. But they are far superior to any American woman, as women, and anyone who denies this is deaf, dumb and blind, or has never been outside of America.

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  319. By the way, X2, scientific studies have shown that neotenous features in women, such as “A thick heavily cleft upper lip, like a suckling infant” are universally attractive to men. We seek them out. Men prefer women with a large degree of sexual dimorphism. Neoteny is one such sexual dimorphism.

    You are just a woman who wants to be loved for who you “really are”.

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  320. on September 6, 2010 at 1:44 am Cannon's Canon

    gorbachev mused:

    I read that there’s a group of central Africans that regularly score very high on tests of mental aptitude and do well in music and math. They’re total outliers and seem to have the best of all worlds – athletically gifted, naturally well-dispositioned and very smart. I read about them in a few places, but they remained under-studied and were minor players in whatever country they were in. But they were a distinct ethnic group, widely suspected of being Overachievers and thusly resented by other Africans. Central Africa somewhere. Maybe someone can find the reference for me.

    allow me to cite this for you

    – the Elder Scrolls of Zion

    what else do you need help with, Janus?

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  321. on September 6, 2010 at 1:48 am Cannon's Canon

    ah, let me be serious. they are:

    the twelve black freshmen at Ivies who forgot to check the ‘race’ box

    again, you’re welcome

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  322. on September 6, 2010 at 1:54 am Cannon's Canon

    hahaha, the ‘protocols of the elders of zion’

    i wasted too many fertile years on RPG’s, hahahahah

    blame the jews?

    yep, blame the jews.

    (morrowind)

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  323. @Cannon’s Canon
    gorbachev mused:
    But they were a distinct ethnic group, widely suspected of being Overachievers and thusly resented by other Africans. Central Africa somewhere. Maybe someone can find the reference for me.

    allow me to cite this for you

    – the Elder Scrolls of Zion

    what else do you need help with, Janus?

    Really!

    I should get me a copy of them there scrolls.

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  324. @Lupo Leboucher

    Cee: “A random, slim college co ed white girl beats these girls and the asian women that were posted are models.”

    You, sir, an idiot. I don’t even like Asian girls. I don’t like the way they look, I don’t like the way they smell, and I don’t like the way their brains work. I’ve only dated a couple in America, and most of them, I’d like to erase from my memory. However, Gorb is exactly right: authentic, “not made in USA” Asian girls are otherworldly in their beauty. He’s not exaggerating even a little bit.

    I’m really not… Srsly, like, go to Korea. Man. You sing it and they just don’t hear.

    I practically live on a college campus, and I kick myself on a daily basis I didn’t move to Seoul and start my business there when I had the chance. Mind you: I don’t even like Asian girls. But they are far superior to any American woman, as women, and anyone who denies this is deaf, dumb and blind, or has never been outside of America.

    I want to get these 20-year-olds out of America. Really, they’re just wasting their time here. The American women here are toxic, by comparison. That women here don’t even realize this is the saddest thing. They’re half-women. At best. Asians just embarrass American women by standing still and doing nothing.

    As women, Asian girls out fucking compete American women in every possible category of any significance. Smarter, hotter, better-shaped, actually feminine, more self-control, fewer bad habits, more charming, much more talented, usually much better-traveled, speak more languages, more loyal (to men with good game, in any case, watch some of them), more modest, less demanding, much more supportive of their men, … as a partner, a fuck buddy, a good time or a wife, they’re pretty much better all-around. They win on all fronts. If you find them attractive. And avoid the gold-diggers. Bring your Manliness, and they love it.

    I’ll bet the Eastern Europeans are better all-around for the same reasons.

    But American men just don’t get it. They think their feminazi entitled fat ugly politically-lesbian slutty Girrl Power”women” are worth the time and effort. Riight.

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  325. @what

    @Gorb
    Thanks for all the compliments.

    You could be a doberman or a chihuahua, I have no idea. I do recall seeing a few ugly Korean women, after all, and a good deal more in China (one thing can be said about that place, there’s a lot of variety. Generally).

    There are a lot of exceptions to what you have stated. However, I hear your experience of Asia was memorable!

    And not unique, either.

    I do agree, we all do age better. I really think it’s in the genes. You should see my grandma!!! She is amazing and my mother. It helps when we have British blood hahah!!. It’s funny you all are saying how ugly Brit women are. What makes me stand out from other Chinese women is my British blood.

    Hybrid vigor, chickee pooh.

    Personally, I find British men quite handsome. Was in UK 5 years ago and was pleasantly surprise.

    I heat there’s not much competition there. Might be good hunting grounds.

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  326. Maxim #102: The hottest babes will not be found in prosperous countries, but in countries on the verge of prosperity. The world’s ugliest women will continue to be found in backward primitive societies.

    In primitive societies men look normal and woman are undoable.

    Disagree about hot babes. The best women are in the mediterran: especially Spain and Italy, and will always be, no matter how much prosperity these countries have. In my opinion, it has to do with these places being the best lands in the world for a long time, as all the great civilizations emerged near that sea. The men who had dominated these lands could chose the best women around.

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  327. And by the way, double x chromosomed X^2, a long term reader here might be familiar with my dig at companionable relationships.

    Men tend to either emphasize the family man life of living with a best buddy, or living on fire of lust and love. I’m known around these parts for my emphasis on lust love, and tend to sneer at relationships based largely on being best buddies. So I’m sneering at the entire notion of a sexy woman being sexually non-dimorphous. Women are immature, all around. It works well to mix paternal and sexual feelings for them.

    It’s only girls who want equal power who chaffe at this. They want to be matrons, not protected love puppies.

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  328. I have not come across with beautiful Brit girls, what looks good in them is their fair color. Whereas guys from Britain look handsome, women are not that good looking. Same is true about North Eastern women. With flat nose and chinky eyes they look awful. Off course women from Indian subcontinent are nice looking but their drawback is they are, most of them do not have fair color otherwise they can be considered one of the best looking chicks.

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  329. LULUZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ all these guys with yellow fever claiming Asian women are the best!

    You guys remind me of Obsidian when he says “All you guys who don’t like black women are lying.”

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    Go ahead and move to Korea…or China…or wherever. Leave teh hot Euro babes for the rest of us.

    LULUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

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  330. Bhetti

    Women by default are subservient to authority and the social status quo acting as their enforcers, whilst men have the authority, the taste for rebellion and set the ideological agenda. Men relax the moral codes governing the survival of patriarchy first. In sum, men have the political and institutional power and without men in power wanting and enabling different flavours of feminism, it wouldn’t have happened.

    I disagree with this. Your premise that women are not the dominant social code creators is false, as is the premise that in a democracy women won’t have at least as much electoral power as women, and that they won’t exercise it towards gynocentric ends.

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  331. Eh, I don’t know about this Asian women are more ‘feminine’ caper either.

    Most places in the world, outside of say the Netherlands, have feminine women if you look in the right places. I like the personalities of the westernised Asian women I’ve befriended but when I lived in Singapore and Malaysia for a while, I found the local Chinese women terribly annoying – like ill behaved children. (The ethnic muslim Malay women had better personalities than the Chinese though).

    For the most part though, in my experience that Asian women are whiny, materialistic and terribly dumb (however booksmart). I think some people are using the word ‘feminine’ in place of what they really mean, which is ‘infantile’.

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  332. http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-08/18/content_11167160.htm

    ””””””””United States intervention brings waters to a boil
    By Cheng Guangjin (China Daily)
    Updated: 2010-08-18 07:17 Comments(27) PrintMail Large Medium Small

    BEIJING – The disturbed waters around China reflect how changes in the political landscape between China and the United States are laying the foundation for a future Asian power struggle, analysts say.

    Related readings:
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    “Strategically speaking, China has very limited influence on neighboring countries and keeps a low profile in diplomacy,” said Shi Yinhong, a senior scholar of American studies at Beijing-based Renmin University.

    “But the US possesses long-term military advantages and sticks to its hegemonic ideals,” Shi said.

    This region will be “a tussle between the US and China to be the dominant voice”, the Financial Times said in a recent commentary.

    The US boosted its presence in the region after the Republic of Korea accused the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea of torpedoing its warship in March, which the DPRK has denied.

    On Monday the US started its second joint military drill in one month with the ROK and has previously announced the two countries will hold military exercises every month this year.

    The Pentagon said earlier this month that the US and the ROK would hold joint military drills with the aircraft carrier USS George Washington in the Yellow Sea without specifying a date, prompting protests from Beijing.

    The Yellow Sea borders both China and the ROK, and Beijing is within striking distance of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier in the Yellow Sea.

    Since leaving its base in Japan in June, the carrier has cruised along waters surrounding China, covering nearly 2,000 nautical miles in East Asia during the past two months, including stopping off the coast of Vietnam.

    In a regional security forum held in Vietnam last month, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton claimed a US “national interest” in this region, which is a striking symbol “of the diplomatic battle that will define Asia for the next few decades”, the Financial Times said.

    Vietnam held joint military drills with its one-time enemy on the South China Sea, where Chinese sovereignty over several islands rich in oil near vital shipping lanes has been challenged by some countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN).

    US intervention, in which it aims to take a dominating role in the South China Sea disputes, will further complicate this issue, said Su Hao, director of the Center for Asia-Pacific Region at China Foreign Affairs University.

    “It is supporting territorial claims of China’s neighbors in order to contain China, but its intervention will have limited impact as long as China sticks to its position,” Su said.

    “China must be persistent in regional cooperation, bilateral and multilateral cooperation,” urged Su, “but not have a sensational reaction and fall into the US’ trap.”

    Troubled by the war on terror in the past decade, the US became more distant from most of its allies in East Asia before the administration of President Barack Obama that vowed to turn that around.

    “But the US’ desperate demonstration of its military strength gives away its fear of weakness deep inside,” Rear Admiral Yang Yi wrote in a commentary published in Tuesday’s Nanfang Daily.

    Yang said the US is now provoking ASEAN nations in order to disrupt their relations with China and distract China from competing with the US.

    “The US and China must base their relations on ‘common interests’ instead of on the ‘common threats’ mindset left over from the Cold War,” said Yang.

    Clinton, urging a multilateral solution, claimed in Vietnam last month that the US was concerned that conflicting claims to the Nansha and Xisha Islands were interfering with maritime commerce, hampering access to international waters and undermining the United Nations law of the sea.

    But the situation was further complicated last week when the Philippines, a close ally of the US, said Southeast Asian nations did not need US help in solving territorial disputes with China over the South China Sea.

    “It’s ASEAN and China. Can I make myself clear? It’s ASEAN and China. Is that clear enough?” said the Philippines Foreign Secretary Alberto Romulo, who was ASEAN chairman in 2007.

    Su said the Philippines doesn’t want US intervention to further complicate the South China Sea issue.

    “Vietnam’s closeness to the US aims to increase its regional influence,” said Su, “but the sea disputes are still within control from turning to a breaking point”, as China is taking a practical way to solve such disputes and “Asian countries need China’s economic support in development.”

    Dong Jidong and Wang Haishan contributed to the story.
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    Ya think ?
    lol
    If anything they should be sending people to live in us and see the real deal and make pictorial hitories of divorced men in jail so when us brings up human rights they can laugh at them.

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  333. ””””T
    LULUZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ all these guys with yellow fever claiming Asian women are the best!
    ”””””

    I will have one from each country almost to make sure I am promoting equal opportunity for bitches to have access to my seed.

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  334. ”””””’Cannon’s Canon
    hahaha, the ‘protocols of the elders of zion’

    i wasted too many fertile years on RPG’s, hahahahah

    blame the jews?

    yep, blame the jews.

    (morrowind)
    ”””””””

    I sent out a scathing email to family list about how 2050 was the time for whites to be a minority in us and told them to tighten up and get ready.

    I don’t think it will take 2050 though looking at marriage rates of one in five foreign marriages. I think gonna be sooner.

    And I did blame it all on the jews.

    Not really I said we need to emulate them.

    I think I am cut off from family now lol

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  335. ”””””JD wrote:
    .Why US dare to put pressusre and provoke China again and again, because:
    1 – generation-old of stereotyping view on China, and Asian in general (i.e. weak)
    2 – military technology (navy, air, submarine) still no match that of US (THIS IS THE NO.1 reason).
    3 – to surpress China from growing now that they have growing strong in economy but not in military
    In short China need to:
    1 – continue invest more on military technology with breaththrough and state-of-art weapon
    2 – enlarge number of nuclear missile arsenal with high destructive payload, pin-point accuracy, and high stealthy feature (like the Russian)
    3 – education to breed creative thinking on new generation thereby building a high tech society with breathrough technology (like the German)
    4 – continue build up and fostering domestic companies to become world class company (like ZTE, and other China corp)
    5 – continue reform in economy section (banking, health care, pension, and social welfare)
    6 – setup a government orgnization with high intelligence gathering capability (like CIA, NSA)
    7 – change the Chinese mindset to become more patriotic, and unity and fully reject greedy and unscrupulous business practise and corruption. If Hong Kong/Taiwan/Singapore can do it, why not mainland China. This require education since young.
    8 – continue to embrace a true non-US style democracy with its own paste so that its people will become more mature in term of thinking when reading foreign press and news, and able to discern what is write and wrong. Controling information flow is a dead end to human creativity in the long-run.
    9 – revalue the currency on its own paste without succumb to US pressure. After all, if china will to go to high income society, the currency has to be value one of these day and labor cost have to go up and goods produce cannot confined to low-end but high-end manufacturing product.
    10 – try some channel to bought over Associate Press, NY times, CNN, and WSJ, then can start firing those moron reporters and writers.
    11 – start withdraw US treasury so to let the US government go bankrupt to prevent them from spending on defense to invent weapon to kill people, and stop them from going war. And of course this will jeck up their interest, thereby all the China-bushing suckers in this forum from US will have to fork out more money to finance their monthly mortgage and car loan, and credit card debt.
    The reason why US dare not touching Russia is because she know she will suffer deadly consequence if nuclear war will to start, same goes to German because they can invent breakthough weapon, like the U-boat during WWII. China lacks all of these even though the economy is booming, which is why China being harrass all the time by the US.. So wake up China, no country is consider powerful in human history without a powerful military and powerful economic, and you can’t lack one another! And remember no one give a damm on the innocent victims fall as the glory and praise always goes to the strongest and famous. At the end of the day, it is the fest that do the talking! China should do what the German did to the France (ie. being ocuppied twice by Germany) by invading the US, then the perception and bullies will end for ever. Or at least like the Japs.
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    JD was this you>?

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  336. Blogs taking over the world media one step at a time.

    Kind of cool.

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  337. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704855104575469140783387312.html?mod=WSJASIA_hpp_MIDDLEFourthNews
    ”””””’Having been chief executive and president of the second-biggest exchange in the world by market capitalization for three years, Atsushi Saito, 70 years old, says now is the time to work with the government and bureaucrats toward the same goal: to fend off competition from Asian markets.”””””’

    lol fend off competition from asian markets lol

    How bout just be the best.

    That might work.

    Be the best.

    Hopefully us is not relegated to fending off asian markets lol

    God Dam lol

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  338. Got to admit that the chinese helicopter broke first time I tried it so us still has opportnity to just be the best.

    http://online.wsj.com/video/raw-video-bp-recovers-failed-blowout-preventer/9B0FB3AE-E82A-428A-9F3C-8B25411B4A1C.html?mod=WSJASIA_hpp_videocarousel_3

    My dick is hard.

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  339. @Lord Lucan: “Britain has embraced the future. Britain has embraced the Gramscian Marxism another poster mentioned.

    Britain has taken on board the insights and revelations of the Frankfurt School.”

    It’s awfully true. Even Scandinavian countries with left/socialist-oriented government (esp. Sweden) never took it that far, always seemingly following their own models, albeit leading to effeminisation and nanny-stating. They never swallowed as much Marxist garbage on the whole though. I guess because English is more widely spoken, the UK became more of a hub for those intellectuals, I dunno. I bet you before this shift, British women were on par with the rest of Europe. There’s got to be a reason why we have so many rat/dog-faced, porcine abominations marauding our streets these days. But it’s complicated. Socialism became all the rage and people thought they were gonna get something for nothing, and then Thatcher came and said it wouldn’t be the case anymore (in the worst possible way mind) leading to a whole new generation of disaffection.

    The blatant idea is to turn us from the community-oriented, thrifty, long-term-considering people we were, into consumerist drones, thick enough to buy useless, overpriced shit. When you make society the means towards the individual, individuals have less incentive to do their bit for society.

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  340. Gorb,
    White American men are not the be all and end all of masculinity. What makes you think all these foreign women want you? If I were a Korean man reading your way too long, rambling, desperate for approval comments I would personally feel relief realizing that you probably aren’t going to offer much competition.

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  341. Doug, do you appreciate Laura’s comment above? Find value in it?

    How about her previous one where she begins “It makes me feel sad that…”

    If so, you must REALLY REALLY like the female mind.

    Me, I often abhore it.

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  342. bmooney0901
    4 days ago 25 So the meaning of this video is no matter how many beautifull girls slash gets in his bed, he’ll always prefer playing with his “snake”. Nice 😛

    lol

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  343. ””””Relationships
    Throughout the mid eighties and into the early nineties, Rose was involved in a turbulent relationship with Erin Everly, the daughter of singer Don Everly. Rose wrote the lyrics of “Sweet Child o’ Mine” about her, and she appeared in the video for the song.[65] Rose and Everly were wed on April 28, 1990 in Las Vegas,[66] albeit under duress: according to Everly, Rose showed up at her home, told her he had a gun in his car, and that he would kill himself if she did not marry him.[67] Rose wanted one of his heroes, Dan McCafferty frontman of Nazareth, to perform at his wedding. McCafferty commenting in 2004 said “I laughed when Axl asked me to sing “Love Hurts” at his wedding, because the song seemed to last for longer than the marriage! Around 18 people from their management kept phoning me to ask – 18 people! – but I eventually told them I was busy, which I probably was.”[68]

    The couple separated after less than a month of marriage,[18] but later reconciled for several months, during which time Everly became pregnant. She suffered a miscarriage in October 1990. This deeply affected Rose, who had wanted to have children of his own. The day after Everly’s miscarriage, Rose was arrested after allegedly assaulting a neighbor with a wine bottle after the neighbor threatened to call the police because of Rose’s loud music. The marriage between Everly and Rose was annulled in January 1991.[18][67] Rose has never re-married and has no children. After the breakup, Rose allegedly continued to try to contact Everly for more than a year, sending her flowers, letters, and even caged birds.[67]

    By mid 1991, Rose had become involved with model Stephanie Seymour. While they were together, Seymour appeared in two Guns N’ Roses videos, “November Rain” and “Don’t Cry”. Rose became deeply attached to Seymour’s son, Dylan, and tried to be a good father figure for the child, as there had been none in his own life. Seymour and Rose parted ways in early 1993.[22][42]
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    That is some serious onitis. lol

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  344. “Buttraping wouldn’t have had an effect on their aggregate ugliness. Very primitive cultures feature some of the world’s ugliest women. Pick up Coon’s anthropology book on the human races sometime.”

    Might be true some times, but not always. Take Cambodia, for example. The Khmer empire ruled South East Asia for around 1000 years from 500 to 1500 AD, then they got defeated, then had red khmer, now Cambodia is one of the poorest and most primitive countries in the world. But really it’s because of too much competition, not because they suck. So the women there aren’t compareable to places that are unattractive in places where weaker people are confined to live, or where people can defend their territory, but can’t really hack it competing with other countries because they’re just not good enough.

    Many used to be primitive societies have lots of special interest revenue generators which give them free rides to modern societies and women in modern Western countries are spoilt by feminism.

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  345. @Vodka and Ground Beef

    Stunning. I miss and love you. Bring me home a Twix bar.

    Get off yer fatass butt and go fetch it yourself, to workout the caloric karma, luv!

    Oh, yea, bring the movies!

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  346. Another diference american chicks will be like you know they could see leaving husband for some celeb or whatever like some kind of goofy ass attempt at a real/joke.

    Like if that is what you wanted why didn’t you do it goofy.

    My woman is now a fan of G+R music.

    She still says I am hotter than axel.

    But yea I get to be the hero, god, the celeb, the cool guy, the one she wanted out of everyone on planet.

    Dude could walk up with a bil and I don’t think she would take it lol

    Wierd yet cool.

    Course I have a little bit of onitis myself and couldn’t picture replacing with some other bitch either.

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  347. Those who blame love for Asian Girls ‘Yello Fever’ should consider the fact that Yellow skin is best in terms of shine and resistance for sun light. White skin once burnt looks ugly. You see numerous people who have sun burn and feel yukky!! White skin without nice features can be even more ugly. Many of my friends from Europe white skin looked like Dracula…

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  348. I am against BM/WF miscegenation for the three reasons Doug1 gave, plus these two:

    1) it’s an individual tragedy in cases where the girl’s family is opposed to this. Even if it’s a no-loss case because she’s a warpig, her family woudl still rather have a grandchild/niece/nephew that looks like they do, and not someting Angelina Jolie adopted.

    2) Human race evolved toward a certain look that should not be obliterated: straightish silky hair, cream-to-light-beige skin color, thin noses and lips, and otehr markers of the Eurasian.

    I am not opposed to WM/BF relationships for reasons I gave elsewhere.

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  349. Lawyerjourno, you might find yellow skin more attractive than white skin, but I assure you most Asians who care anything about looks have an intense passion for pale, white skin. All the models here have milky white skin with few exceptions, that bears little resemblance to the natural yellow/brown skin of the population or indeed most of the time the model doing the commercial.

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  350. ”””””on September 6, 2010 at 8:58 am Dr. T
    Lawyerjourno, you might find yellow skin more attractive than white skin, but I assure you most Asians who care anything about looks have an intense passion for pale, white skin. All the models here have milky white skin with few exceptions, that bears little resemblance to the natural yellow/brown skin of the population or indeed most of the time the model doing the commercial.
    ””””””

    Yea it is funny which is why white men are the be all end all of msculinity to all woman.

    They know the kids gonna have lighter skin. he he he

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  351. Dr. T – which Asia are you talking about? I thought the North Eastern Asians all had pale skin.

    It’s only in S and SE Asia where you get the darkies.

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  352. ””””””CHINA BUYS CLUSTERSTOCK!!!

    Sydney, Some Time in The Near Future

    Rupert Murdoch’s Chinese born wife and now heir to his fortune announced today that Clusterstock will be purchased by a consortium of Chinese interests. Site visits immediately soared as readers hoped content would improve and that the new Chinese owners would censor some of the more idiotic and racist comments, peopling the site.

    While CEO LusterLocks is generally thought to continue in his position under Chinese ownership some of his oldest reporters are certainly destined to be quickly replaced.

    SS
    ””””””
    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-chinas-new-plan-to-take-over-the-world-2009-7#ixzz0ykumhmbv””””’

    Goes to show have good woman and get to own it all lol

    His current wife chinese. ha ha ha

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  353. Lawyerjourno: Urban middle or upper class east asians usually shield themselves from sunlight, so they’re normally pale, the women use makeup to look paler, and they have less pigment on average. But people from the countryside or someone who spends time outdoors in the sun usually have brownish/yellowish skin, south east asians more than north east asians, but still both to a degree usually.

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  354. Gorbachev is right about Asian women.

    If you’re the kind of guy who was always told by his grandparents that he would have been much happier had be been born around 1920, Asia (I can vouch for Japan) is where you should go to find your wife.

    Is mine perfect? No, but she’s got a smile on her face and dinner in the oven when I get home. Said home is a nice, relaxing, drama-free place.

    And while she doesn’t think of herself as particularly special, she looks just fine to me (about 6 by Western standards to my 4 or so; here those numbers are reversed). She dresses with a casual elegance that few Western women would consider — a skirt, stockings, and high heels or boots every day; I don’t even think she owns a single pair of pants.

    I’m not complaining!

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  355. Dr. T – yes, generally the pale skinned people are richer. In SE Asia it’s because admixtures of Chinese and European genes. And people who stay out of the fields usually merit better pay or housewifely pay.

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  356. The gods, whoever they were–Cuculcan, Quetzacoatl, Viracocha, Ea or Enlil (and all the Sumerian Lofty Ones), and for the most part their counterparts in India, Usir, Hor, Ptah, Eeset and others, as well as the gods of Greek Pantheon–all were reportedly white/light-skinned. They seemed also cone-headed, where in some cultures people bound their skulls to look somewhat alike or wore a mitre type of headdress, especially people in power. In time, that fashion trend to modify skull shape disappeared, except the symbolic mitre headdress, but the gods still remained light-skinned.

    That is why people of Mesoamerica or Peru regarded Spaniards as returning gods, at first.

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  357. That’s right xspalt. In Asia if you haven’t got anything else going, you usually need to work on the rice fields to eat. And that really soaks up the sun. So if you have really pale skin except very far north basically you’re saying you’ve never had to work the fields, because you’re either smart or well taken care of. Also people who have lighter genes tend to try to captalize on them, like europeans or northern east asians. Since skin colour is highly heritable, although a bit unpredictable in places with many different variations, along with wealth, this tends to create a lighter skinned strata of leaders, often with many chinese persons in other countries than China.

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  358. American girls. Baby faces, hot until they are 25. After that, they bloat and expand like balloons to the size of a hypo. I imagine the surprise of the poor dude who married her.
    20% of them stay thin. They are the petite and avian faced ones. Control freak neurotics.

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  359. Epic Fail opener tips:

    “Start with a compliment; there just aren’t enough compliments going around. A guy once looked at me and said, “I’m sorry to interrupt, but I just want to tell you I think you are really beautiful.’ ”

    A series on how to open with a woman. Nearly all fall into the category of Forced Rapport. Not one mention of a neg.

    http://yahoo.match.com/y/article.aspx?articleid=3418&TrackingID=526103&BannerID=689199

    Is mainstream media really so fucking worthless? Apparently yes. Stupidity or malice? Apparently both.

    This is personal. Back in the mid 1990s I read somewhere that GIVING a girl your phone number is what works. Like an idiot I did exactly that and never got to bang the pretty Swiss aupair who was raptly watching my lips move with fire in her eyes.

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  360. UK
    Socialism for the masses and the worst class system in the developed world. Worst of two worlds.
    Scotland: highest per capita coke consumption inthe globe. England is probably next.
    How did they destroy the most civilized country in the world in 60 years ?

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  361. Jingleheimer sputters, “Nicole: Shut the fuck up you fat fucking obese black rhino. You are the most vile and physically repulsive woman on Earth. Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion. Find some rope and hang yourself. thank you from everyone”

    You don’t seem to be doing a very good job of not giving a fuck. In fact, you’ve given three fucks in this very post, and believe that I should die for the “crime” of not being your physical preference.

    You’re not the first guy here to tell me that I should kill myself for not being perfect, and you probably won’t be the last.

    You’re a pussy catfighting with fat old ladies on the internet.

    Find something manly to do.

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  362. Sad B, I don’t think the neurotic control freaks are constrained to avian faced thin (usually actually emaciated) ones. May be a mater of degree, but 95% of American women have this infliction.

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  363. “That is why people of Mesoamerica or Peru regarded Spaniards as returning gods, at first.”

    …and why Pizarro was able to conquer the Incan empire of tens (hundreds?) of thousands with hundreds of men. The guns and horses helped, I am sure.

    I still have an aversion to Spaniards. My Peruvian indoctrination worked. Atahualpa FTW.

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  364. Nicole, seems to be the same individual, nick changed but the style and vocabulary is the same.

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  365. Is the dark skinned woman in the picture Australian Aboriginal? Way to kick a chick while she’s down. Why was she chosen? Was that a ‘private’ picture or is she deluded enough to enter a contest? I think it matters. It’s mean to just randomly pick on someone so ugly, especially when they aware of their limitations.

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  366. I feel the same way dream puppy. It doesn’t seem very sportsmanlike to single out one poor girl as an example of an unattractive person from a primitive culture. The overweight beauty queen who thinks she’s hot is a different story.

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  367. Yeah. Maybe she still gets some male attention due to her pretty face and has therefore an over-exaggerated sense of self worth (if we assume worth = beauty, as it does here).

    She definitely needs to be taken down a couple of notches.

    I need to know more about the other one before I can pass judgement. I assume she owns a mirror; eyes, and doesn’t hold any illusions.

    While we’re on the topic. What is it about some men that make them want to lash out against fat and ugly women? I am not talking about self entitled slobs trying to punch above their weight at the bar, but just women on the street. What makes men oink at a fatty on the sidewalk minded her own business? I find very few things misogynistic, but singling out and verbally abusing a woman because she has done nothing more than not fit your aesthetic is cruel. Especially since men of similar unappeal do not bear this type of abuse.

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  368. How about the last two comments, Doug? Float yer boat?

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  369. Morsellaux, I know it’s the same person most times. That’s why I call it Jingleheimer.

    Dream, sometimes it’s best to let people screw themselves without interruption.

    He’s just following his program.

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  370. I have no animosity towards men I don’t find particularly physically attractive, which tends to be most of them.

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  371. Dream asks, “What is it about some men that make them want to lash out against fat and ugly women?”

    Entitlement.

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  372. Woops – D.P. snuck in a post with a valid question while I was commenting. Question to Doug was about the two comments 10:36 , 10:46.

    I’m not being merely snarky, Doug. I want to know if you are just reflexively defending the chicks because you dig the company of chicks, or because something in these vapid comments is of interest to you.

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  373. @Laura…

    Right. So why do men have animosity towards women they do not find unattractive?

    To their defense I don’t it is a totally fair comparison.

    I do harbor a twinge of animosity towards men who act like pussies, however I would never verbally attack them.

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  374. Dream, have you ever given a facial or body language sneer towards a guy who tried to pick you up, but was so below your attractiveness threshold that you considered his attempt an insult upon your mate value status?

    Not all women do that, as it’s terribly rude and demeans the cold hearted evil bitch more than the guy she is trying to snub. But if you’ve ever seen or felt that emotion, you may get a feeling for what men go through when they are affronted by ugliness.

    Sometimes we can’t help ourselves but exclaim “god damn, what a fine ass! Damn, damn, damn, I want to tap that right now”. And other times our emotions are the reverse. Holy uggghhhh get your ugly out of my face, please!

    What’s an affront is not all that ugly getting in a man’s grill. It’s the affront to his mate value, if that ugly is pretending to be a contender to his sexual attentions.

    MOST guys do not go around insulting girls for fun. A few do. They are the male version of the sneering bitch at the bar.

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  375. This is something that I have also never understood. Why do men feel compelled to point out at ugly or fat women? Especially, in cases such as facial beauty which is a natural given that the person has no control over. I mean, they don’t have to fuck them, much less be with them. They don’t even have to look at them. There are many guys I see everyday that I find very unattractive and sometimes even physically repulsive, yet I respect them as a human being and I’m tactful enough not to point at their physical shortcomings. I could make a whole list of what I find disgusting in men’s looks, but I accept them as human beings and let them be (I will instead point out a hot man but that is completely normal). I mean that person owes it not to me to look beautiful in front of my eyes. Likewise, we women do not owe it to men to look beautiful, it is simply a Nature’s arrangement that some of us are beautiful. It’s the same thing that the sky is blue and the grass is green, it’s a given.

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  376. I guess I’m not as hot as you xsplat. I don’t usually get angry at men for finding me attractive.

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  377. @dream puppy, yea, the woman in the bottom picture is Aboriginal. I doubt she was in any beauty contest. Just a random representative picture.

    There are some differences, though. NT (Northern Territory) aboriginals are a tad lighter skinned, and while very young, not as ugly. Men, though overall, are better looking than women as adults. The more south you go, the more trollish the features. Tasmanian Aboriginals did look like trolls, really.

    Here is a picture of teenage girl from NT: http://img2.photographersdirect.com/img/9540/wm/pd478676.jpg

    A NT boy (about 11): http://comps.fotosearch.com/comp/ICN/ICN002/australia-northern-territory_~F0020197.jpg

    Little girls: http://www.photographersdirect.com/buyers/stockphoto.asp?imageid=478675

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  378. @Laura

    I guess I’m not as hot as you xsplat. I don’t usually get angry at men for finding me attractive.

    You are a woman. It’s different. If you saw a man being approached by an ugly chick, what would be your internal hamster spinning for you? It would be the opposite of social proof. A disproof.

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  379. This isn’t youtube, stop posting those stupid songs that have no relation to game or this blog.

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  380. Morsellaux, if I saw a guy being approached by any woman who wasn’t a hooker, I’d think it was unusual.

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  381. @Laura,

    Actually, Korean men share the opinion of Korean women. They wonder why more men don’t go after them.

    And they’re hugely resentful of Western guys. The prettiest women often go for foreign men, at least for flings.

    On the other hand, Korean guys usually score the hottest Japanese women. Japanese women are a huge fetish in Korea. Tell your buddies you had a Japanese girlfriend, and they ooh and ahh.

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  382. @xsplat
    “Dream, have you ever given a facial or body language sneer towards a guy who tried to pick you up, but was so below your attractiveness threshold that you considered his attempt an insult upon your mate value status?”

    While inside I have been confused, repulsed, and hurt that men not even close to my level would hit on me, I have never sneered. I keep that meanness to myself. I have approached guys way above my league too, so I get it. We all like pretty things.

    This just happed actually, this low class portly guy did the whole “tap you on the other shoulder so you turn to the wrong side” thing with me at the grocery store and I just laughed. He then tried to chat me up but I smiled and said I had to hurry b/c my husband was waiting outside for me.
    I dont see what the point would have been if I had been outright mean to him. I don’t see what I had to gain. (Yes, I thought “dude, wtf i’m way out of your league”, but this is different than saying it. Also much different had he NOT hit on me and i just yelled “Fuck you fattie!” as many guys are prone to do to women minding their own business.)

    He wasn’t being malicious…just hopeful. Plus he provided an ego boost for me, as I (even in my peak as an 8) never was good at attracting men. I walk with my eyes down, seldom smile and keep to myself outside of situations with friends/acquaintances. Strange men chatting me up, even in bars made me very nervous.

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  383. Gorb,
    I just sometimes get the impression when some of the men on here talk about how great foreign women are they think because they are American men the whole world is their personal playground. I wonder how the men in those other countries feel about large numbers of foreign men coming in and stealing their women. It has to be a little degrading for them. I guess there might be reasons why Korean women prefer foreign men, although I’m not sure what they are. Asian men have historically been good soldiers and it is their country so I’m not sure I’d mess with them too much.

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  384. @Gorb

    I have sometimes heard the opposite from Korean men. They say white guys just go for any K-girl that looks ok because they cannot differentiate between beautiful and plain Korean girls. I think they have different conceptions of beauty- the super white skin, surgically enhanced eyes, small face etc. White guys will just go for a girl with a pretty face and thin body even if she’s darker, smaller eyes etc.

    Could just be sour grapes.

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  385. on September 6, 2010 at 12:43 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’on September 6, 2010 at 12:25 pm Nicole
    Morsellaux, if I saw a guy being approached by any woman who wasn’t a hooker, I’d think it was unusual.
    ”””’

    Happens to guys all the time at work.

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  386. Nicole, how about them British sexually aggressive chicks? And it is becoming more common. It may not be an overt approach, a more savvy chick would mask the approach so it seems to be coming from the male target–a chick game as it were, but other chicks read it loud and clear.

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  387. Gorb,
    Another thing. Your endless diatribe on how genetically superior asian women are to white women was obnoxious. I admire asians and their culture also. You are white, try having at least a little loyalty to your own kind.

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  388. on September 6, 2010 at 12:48 pm gunslingergregi

    I have not worked for a company where woman worked where I was not sexually harassed.

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  389. on September 6, 2010 at 12:54 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””’Laura
    Gorb,
    Another thing. Your endless diatribe on how genetically superior asian women are to white women was obnoxious. I admire asians and their culture also. You are white, try having at least a little loyalty to your own kind.
    ”””””

    Woman should really really try having some loyalty to their men instead of just weight round their necks.

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  390. Laura: You are white, try having at least a little loyalty to your own kind.

    Yea, Gorby, suck it up! Stick to teh beached whale harpys!

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  391. Guns, when you work with someone, that’s not really being approached. That’s talking to someone you work with. That shouldn’t have any impact on a guy’s perceived mate value anyway since it’s just talking to a coworker, or in some situations, being asked for something by a client.

    I’d expect a bartender to get “approached” by a lot of women in a night.

    A guy sitting on the other side of the bar who isn’t flashing lots of cash, not so much.

    It actually lowers a woman’s perceived value to approach men she doesn’t know. One girl got assumed to be a hooker by more than one guy I know because she went around the pub talking to different men. Come to find out later, she’s the owner’s cousin and just knows a lot of guys.

    I didn’t approach strangers before, because it’s just not a ladylike thing to do, and makes guys think you’re desperate. After coming to this blog, I don’t even approach non Black strangers even to tell them their tag is hanging out or they’ve got bird shit down the back of their head, because I understand guys resent attention from ugly girls, and I understand that to the vast majority of White guys, I’m hideous.

    I’m scared to talk to them unless they’re serving me something or I know them through a friend.

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  392. Morsellaux says, “Nicole, how about them British sexually aggressive chicks? And it is becoming more common. It may not be an overt approach, a more savvy chick would mask the approach so it seems to be coming from the male target–a chick game as it were, but other chicks read it loud and clear.”

    Sexually aggressive women are generally lower class women. When a guy goes to the kinds of places such girls frequent, he should expect that kind of treatment…not freak out because the hole in the wall he’s partying in is the kind of place that is full of people who’d party in a hole in the wall.

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  393. I love this site. Full Contact Controversy!

    Let’s reiterate the difference between ethnicity and nationality. British (and American) women are looking worse and worse because cultural influences. A smoking hot genetic lineage can turn to crap in one generation due to national – cultural norms.

    And weight DO indicate health problems, psychological issues or character deficiencies.
    Too skinny? Parasites. HIV. Anorexia.
    Too fat? Thyroid. Diabetes.

    Most likely- zero self control, no self respect, and just plain lazy.

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  394. Nicole, that works in a static environment (where you live, you know the social scene), but if you travel a lot and to places you’ve never been before and do not have mapped it out yet, it’s a different story.

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  395. “It actually lowers a woman’s perceived value to approach men she doesn’t know. One girl got assumed to be a hooker by more than one guy I know because she went around the pub talking to different men. Come to find out later, she’s the owner’s cousin and just knows a lot of guys.”

    This is true.

    Only sluts (no shame), desperate women (no other options), hookers (looking for a trick) & strippers (looking to get money for a lap dance) approach men.

    This, of course, means that women are stuck with whatever quality of men approach them.

    It also shows that the meme “women are the selectors in the mating game” to be partly bullshit. Women and men both act as selectors in the mating market.

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  396. on September 6, 2010 at 1:09 pm herbal essence

    I recently went on an extended vacation in continental europe. Out of all the different groups of tourists from around the world I encountered, the British were by far the worst.
    LOUD, ugly, overweight, drunk (often in the morning even) foul-mouthed, slovenly, yellow crooked teeth, completely unwilling to show the slightest politeness to those around them. Filthy, foul-mouthed, disgusting.
    Britain should be ashamed of themselves.

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  397. on September 6, 2010 at 1:10 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’A guy sitting on the other side of the bar who isn’t flashing lots of cash, not so much.””””’

    The few times I went to clubs also was approached by chicks when not flashing cash.

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  398. @Laura
    Gorb,
    I just sometimes get the impression when some of the men on here talk about how great foreign women are they think because they are American men the whole world is their personal playground.

    In effect, this is true. You don’t need to treat it that way. I see Korea or France in the same way I see New England. I didn’t treat Seoul as a personal playground. Personally, I also never treated Korean women with disrespect; far from it, as a foreigner, I careful to observe more that the usual proprieties. And you never, ever cross their boundaries. Most PUAs will say the same thing when abroad: Lying is ultimately not useful, disrespect gets you nowhere (from a selfish point of view) and damages your reputation, etc. – BUT:

    Acknowledging a fact, that Korean women make better partners all around, or Asians generally, than the current crop of obese, self-entitled, demanding harpies that crowd our malls, our clubs and our colleges is just stating a fact.

    As I said, as people, American women may be fine. As *women*, Asian girls by and large score higher on any measure. White nationalist guys who go abroad will invariably be shocked by the contrast and wonder whether or not their vaunted race-loyalty is worth anything.

    To go is to see. That’s all I’ve got to say.

    It’s exactly the same thing others say about Eastern Europe. The difference is, frankly, night and day. I’ve got no experience there, but I’ll bet it’s the same.

    I wonder how the men in those other countries feel about large numbers of foreign men coming in and stealing their women.

    Badly, but Korean men have more moxy and natural game than Japanese or Chinese men; they’re as apt to steal a hot Chinese babe or a Japanese girl as anyone else, and they fuck around more or less as a sport all the time. Korean men who say this isn’t true are either lying or are squarely beta. There are a lot more “Alpha” men in Korea than in any other Asian country I’ve been in, including Singapore. Korean men are said by Japanese women to be more romantic than Japanese men, but also more masculine and more demanding: Cheat on them, and they’re as likely to smack you across the face as dump you. That was the last generation, but the current one still has some of that Don’t Mess With Me attitude. Doing 2 years in the army toughens them all up. And Korean women are still heavily hypergamous; they’re human females, after all. They respect strong men and want them. So you really do have to “bring it”.

    It has to be a little degrading for them.</I.

    Sure, but they get over it. They get their sport when they go overseas to study English, too.

    I guess there might be reasons why Korean women prefer foreign men, although I’m not sure what they are.

    Exotic, size, variety: Korea isn’t just homogeneous, it’s *boringly* homogeneous. A little bit of spice livens life up.

    Asian men have historically been good soldiers and it is their country so I’m not sure I’d mess with them too much.

    Asian men suck as soldiers one-on-one. The only white people they could beat were the Russians, and that was at sea and it was 1910 and the Japanese were boning up pretty hard.

    The Vietnamese fought guerrilla-style; the Chinese just throw endless hordes of body bags at the enemy, and they overcome you with the piling dead; and the Koreans, well, …

    On the Koreans, you may have something. These aren’t little Asians, there. Some Koreans are huge, built and look like they’re just waiting to take on North Korea single-handed. There are Korean cops that, if met in a ring, would beat the living crap out of lots of American body-builders.

    That said, they do tend to be smaller-framed.

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  399. T, you describe the world 50 years ago.

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  400. Gorby, I concede one point to Laura. Your word count nears verbal diarrhea. Please, try more concise approach, will ya?
    KTHX

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  401. @dream puppy

    @Gorb

    I have sometimes heard the opposite from Korean men. They say white guys just go for any K-girl that looks ok because they cannot differentiate between beautiful and plain Korean girls. I think they have different conceptions of beauty- the super white skin, surgically enhanced eyes, small face etc. White guys will just go for a girl with a pretty face and thin body even if she’s darker, smaller eyes etc.

    Could just be sour grapes.

    It’s partly true: They have different standards of beauty. And some white guys just lose it, and think: Holy crap, the 5’s here are 8’s back home. It’s often true. But some of them are just so happy to have a non-ugly girl, anything works well. And they’re usually a lot nicer to date, let me tell you; and not because they’re easy, because often they’re not. They’re more feminine, don’t want to compete with men, and for a man who wants an actual woman and not a man in a woman’s body, it’s a real eye-opener.

    But a lot of the time it’s totally sour grapes. All of the Korean women I dated were women Korean men wanted.

    Same in China. As a foreigner, you get +1 just for being foreign. If you aren’t retarded, are charming, learn the local customs and adapt, and get game – make that +3, easily.

    The hottest babes are always out of your reach, though, because they’re well-watched and they generally have a bevy of boyfriends in foreign countries – Koreans are among the best-traveled people on Earth. If a super-hot Korean wants to meet foreign guys, all she needs to do is go study English in Australia and she can do whatever she wants when there – away from the prying stares and gazes of her fellows. They largely do this.

    And then they marry Koreans, usually nice rich plastic surgeons or corporate bigwigs.

    The smart thing to do is seek these out when they’re a little older (they age well) and are bored to tears.

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  402. It occurs to me that quite often for PC reasons advanced societies don’t put their “best face foward” in the media regarding the quality of their women.

    It seems to me that the average girl in my son’s high school (mixed middle and working class / New England) seem cuter and more feminine than the tripe one sees on the idiot box.

    Also, it seems to me that pageants are just not taken seriously in the west anymore, so looking for the cutest girls in pageants in places like the U.S., UK or Germany doesn’t make a lot of sense either.

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  403. “T, you describe the world 50 years ago.”

    Where do you live?

    I am curious to know of a place where women do a lot of approaches. I have seen women do their version of an “approach,” but it is still not that common.

    If I had to guess, I would say men do 90%+ of all approaches at bars/clubs.

    “Also, it seems to me that pageants are just not taken seriously in the west anymore, so looking for the cutest girls in pageants in places like the U.S., UK or Germany doesn’t make a lot of sense either.”

    This might be true, but the U.K. has never won the Miss Universe contest, and it had been held since the 1950’s…at time when pageants where taken seriously in the West.

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  404. @Laura

    Gorb,
    Another thing. Your endless diatribe on how genetically superior asian women are to white women was obnoxious. I admire asians and their culture also. You are white, try having at least a little loyalty to your own kind.

    I’m not interested in ideology, Laura. I come to racialism not from racism or tribalism: I come to it from biology. Only PC self-censorship prevents evolutionary biologists from saying what they know is obvious. There comes a time when you have to admit that we’re animals like any other animal. That said, …

    Loyalty to my race?

    I’m not just white. I’m also Male. And as a Male Human, I think like a male. What comes first: Loyalty to a bunch of really obnoxious American women who think they’re the bees’ knees, ruined beyond repair by radical feminism and bad food?

    This is the same argument white-nationalist women make all the time. The truth is, shaming white guys into sticking with (or at least not insulting) the majority of white American women is just another shaming tactic. American women stopped being appreciably “female” long ago. Why the hell should I or any other guy show the smallest bit of loyalty? Our women abdicated all rights to make claims on white men. And that’s a fact. Don’t be mad at me for it.

    As a white woman, you want me and other males to consider my race before my own interests? Are *my* interests as a male served by my not admitting what’s frankly obvious?

    For the exact same reason white Eastern Europeans are better as *women* than American women, by and large, Asian women are better, too. The fact of their race, for me, is secondary. For children, it may, in fact, be a huge plus, given those nice NE Asian genes. The result is probably better than either alone.

    In many ways, as women, NE Asian women are just genetically superior. They age better, are generally smarter (this is true, in my experience), have lower incidences of alcoholism and drug use (lower susceptibility to addiction), less impulsive behavior, their cultures engineer them to be much more feminine, as anyone who has ever interacted with them will tell you, … they may not make Athlete of the Year, but who wants a butch woman who feels the need to arm-wrestle your friends?

    Why the hell should any white – or black – American guy show the least iota of loyalty? Give me one good reason.

    How many American women just stopped even pretending to be female?

    You have complaints – my suggestion is to take it to your sisters.

    Nothing personal, but your sisters walked off the stage long ago. The American guys who go overseas are just doing what’s in their best interests.

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  405. @Guns and Morsellaux,

    I respect Laura and all, and I’ve got nothing against American women as people. But if she wants to get resentful for me telling the bald truth about American women –

    The rest of her female friends have fucked it up for the few remaining American women who have any self-respect.

    I had to come back, and I don’t regret it. But I can pull way out of my class, now, so I don’t mind being here. It took going out to get there.

    The women who whine about it now – where were they when the radical feminists were sucking the life from American males? Dropping nuclear bombs on Marriage 2.0? Getting fat and blaming us for wanting non-fat women? Blaming us for not liking women who’ve ridden more dicks than we’ve ever seen in locker rooms? Watching the endless parade of commercials, TV shows, movies and books denigrating and insulting the very fact of Mens’ existences?

    Seriously, are we supposed to, out of loyalty to our race, appreciate fat, arrogant, entitled slutty men-in-women’s-bodies?

    I can think of lots of reasons for being racially loyal. Among them what I want my kids to look like. But frankly, loyalty to what Western women are today isn’t one of them.

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  406. The winner is not the one that we only want to have a night with or a causal thing with. The winner is the one we chose to be with for life and honestly, commit to.

    People stray for many variety of reasons. Simply saying that they are bored clearly demonstrates the simplistic views and lack of insight and awareness of individual’s internal intentions. It gives us an indication of the impression that individual has of him/herself–that their purpose is only to bring about excitement to uninspired individual. That’s sad in deed.

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  407. I’ve been more than usually spewing verbally, Morsellaux.

    Laura has it right – I need to slow down the verbiage.

    No promises.

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  408. laura,

    don’t hate, congratulate. It’s one thing to give him grief for hating on wht American women buts it’s another to ride him for personal preferences.

    what, I had no idea you’re a woman 🙂

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  409. @Dr. T
    “That’s right xspalt. In Asia if you haven’t got anything else going, you usually need to work on the rice fields to eat. And that really soaks up the sun. So if you have really pale skin except very far north basically you’re saying you’ve never had to work the fields, because you’re either smart or well taken care of. Also people who have lighter genes tend to try to captalize on them, like europeans or northern east asians. Since skin colour is highly heritable, although a bit unpredictable in places with many different variations, along with wealth, this tends to create a lighter skinned strata of leaders, often with many chinese persons in other countries than China.”

    This is so true. Pale skin = higher status in Asian culture. Just look at all the brightening, whitening skin products that are out there. Unless the woman bleach the rest of her body—–she’ll have to make sure everything else is hidden!!haha!!Anyhow, can’t blame them for trying, cause it’s such an advantage, it’s ridiculous!!!

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  410. And, speaking of Guns ‘n Roses, who can forget “Used to Love Her” (which is actually about a dog, the four-legged kind, but… )

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  411. T, Vancouver BC, at the moment. But been all over place south of the border, a couple of years here and there. Vancouver is my, kinda, base. I came here in 1984. Can’t tell you how many times even then–mid-80’s–I have been approached, though always under some “innocent” pretense. Pity that I had at that time severe one-itis, the women were usually between 7-8 and I have regrets. Remember one 9, she was an exquisite specimen, met her on the street, but the damn one-itis and values instilled in earlier times got in the way. I was a seriously faithful bloke. But it was a tremendous temptation. If you have a time machine lying about, I’ll take it. 😉

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  412. Also, National Review Online on its Phi Bet Cons blog, has stuff about marriage, monogamy, etc.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/phi-beta-cons/245604/re-sexual-adaptation-robert-verbruggen

    “Men may have a natural urge to stray, and women may have a natural urge to pursue higher-status men than their current partners, but the institution of marriage does us a service by putting the brakes on these tendencies. Monogamy creates a stable environment for children, controls sexual jealousy, and (by forcing men and women to pair up, rather than allowing high-status men to accumulate multiple wives) ensures that most men who want to marry can do so.”

    Check it out.

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  413. on September 6, 2010 at 2:30 pm gunslingergregi

    That doesn’t sound like it was about a dog.

    might want to check his backyard.

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  414. but the institution of marriage does us a service by putting the brakes on these tendencies. Monogamy creates a stable environment for children, controls sexual jealousy, and (by forcing men and women to pair up, rather than allowing high-status men to accumulate multiple wives) ensures that most men who want to marry can do so.

    It depends what you mean by “us”.

    If you are a man who does not want (to raise) children, can manage his lifestyle to match his jealousy threshold, and receive no benefit from marrying versus being with girl(s), then no, the institution of marriage does no service for you.

    I “us” society? If marriage leads to more kids, in a world with finite resources, an ever expanding population will cause problematic resource conflicts and resource failures. That doesn’t benefit “us”, as a whole.

    The us marriage benefits is women who wants kids. Or guys who find it difficult to get women to commit to them.

    Or children could be the us. But if the man is not the respected head of the household in a society that supports this, I don’t see how marriage will help the kids much anyway. A ballbusting argumentative wife and a submissive cow towed dad is no role model for any kid, and staying together because of a marriage is an even worse role model. Kids are adaptable and resilient, and there is something to be said for the positive effects of difficulties during formative years. I’ve never heard a single soul complain that he had things too rough in his childhood. The stories you hear are nearly always the reverse.

    Nope – I just can’t adopt any frame of reference where marriage is a social good.

    Not marriage.

    A committed family oriented environment, that is open to change, or not change, yes. Marriage, no.

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  415. 3 lines long lllolz @ Gorby haters. Asians “cute, but not hot” – gimme a fucking break. Let me guess, you have a “hot” girlfriend who right now lives in Canada too?

    Granted with some momentum and harem crafting you can do pretty well here in the US, but an average guy even with some game will be lucky to take home a 7 on a random weekend night. He will chalk up a “notch” and maybe even write a blog post about it 😉
    Simply because there aren’t so that many of them.
    All this was mentioned before :
    http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/obesity-to-blame-for-game/
    That is what this is about. Fat, chavvy broads screwing up the ratio in Anglo countries.

    Just last night met a russian chick I haven’t seen in a year… She porked up considerably, almost past an american fattie threshold. And still had *two* orbiters well orbiting around her all night.

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  416. Regarding women reflexively hating on guys and girls who are dating outside of the women’s own culture, this is a hard wired “thinking process” that women have. It is pure backstabbing jealousy. Pure bitch. One of the workings of the female mind that I loathe.

    It’s not the naked jealousy that bothers me, quite so much. Though that’s a big part of it. It’s their incredibly tortuous mental gymnastics that they use to justify their pure bitch hatred of men dating others or women stealing their men. They show zero self understanding that all these “reasons” are pure backstabbing jealousy.

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  417. And women have this exact same reaction to younger girls. Purple faced apoplectic rage that youth and beauty trumps any charm the older girl could muster.

    Oh, the faces of cold hatred your girl will get if she is 20 years younger than you and dressed up all hot and slutty. Or you will get, depending on what culture you are in. Here in Indonesia it’s the older matrons who will give the evil eye to the girl. In Thailand it’s the older western tourists who will give the evil eye to the man.

    Like they are willing their eyes to be soldering irons and want to pierce your soul to death on the spot with them.

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  418. @tim and @chris

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  419. But it’s the reaction of pure jealousy, because even if you are old and ugly, if your girl is an obvious hotty, dressed to slay, and paired up with a guy she obviously adores and is giving heavy public displays of affection to, all the cute young hot girls will instantly want to be her friend. They will call her “cute”, and chat her up, and even dance sexy with her on the disco. Sometimes they’ll gather a whole crowd together. The hot chicks gather the hot chicks. While the matrons fucking fume.

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  420. on September 6, 2010 at 3:09 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea it will be tragic to see just how many laws get passed from now till the end.

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  421. @tim and @chris

    @editor apologies on previous post – please erase

    Canada is interesting. It is almost indistinguishable from the US, but it has an overall lower obesity rate than the US, England, and even much of Europe. The country invented some of the world’s finest junk food (poutine) and uses cars almost as much as Americans. Yet the women are definitely thinner. I wonder if Canadian women over all cook for themselves more often. One thing that I have begun to wonder is if the driver of obesity is young women no longer being forced to learn how to cook low carb and nutritious meals.

    That being said, Canadian female beauty varies widely from region to region. So that I don’t sound like a Canada basher, let me start with the good stuff.

    MONTREAL – if every city in Canada had women who looked liked Montreal women, Canada would be second to only the Baltic states and prime areas of Eastern Europe in female beauty. There are no fat chicks in Montreal. Literally. I saw one kinda of overweight girl the entire time that I was there. You would be amazed how attractive some types of girls become when they are slender and know how to dress.

    TORONTO and VANCOUVER – Sadly, these two cities do not measure up to Montreal. Yes, there are some very attractive girls. But there are fat chicks – not as many or as severe in America, but they are there and still too many. As well, the men tend to be very tall in these cities, which is what women default to in a world w/o game. It is not a coincidence that Mystery is from Toronto.

    OTTAWA – 2 hour drive from Montreal and WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? The women in OTTAWA are as bad as you would see around New England. They are just as fat as their American sisters. Tyler Durden hails from Ottawa.

    I can’t speak for the rest of Canada since I have not visited. I am curious what places like the plains and maritime cities are like.

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  422. I don’t really much of a problem with someone like xsplat who seems to have cut his ties with the United States and manages to survive on his own in Indonesia. That can’t be easy. What I do have a problem with is taxpayer’s money going to pay for useless jobs so American men can feel like “Big Men” all over the globe.

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  423. xsplat,
    What you did is different and I admire it. You seem to have cut ties with the US and have managed to make it on your own in Indonesia. That can’t be easy. I just don’t want too much tax payer money wasted on american men who want to go around being “Big Men” all over the world.

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  424. Laura

    I just don’t want too much tax payer money wasted on american men who want to go around being “Big Men” all over the world.

    It’s not the naked jealousy that bothers me, quite so much. Though that’s a big part of it. It’s their incredibly tortuous mental gymnastics that they use to justify their pure bitch hatred of men dating others or women stealing their men. They show zero self understanding that all these “reasons” are pure backstabbing jealousy.

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  425. xsplat, tell us how you really feel! 😉

    Marriage worked for millennia. And yes, it’s purpose has been a committed family oriented environment. Life spans have been a bit shorter, so “till death us parts” was often the case. The point is that feminism fucked things up so thoroughly that the old proven system is in shambles.

    Since humanity works like a dynamic system, the pendulum is now in a swing to the opposite polarity and at some point, it will assume the median, stable position.

    Re growth of population and finite resources… itsa canard.
    The earth could easily feed 30 billion and as for minerals and other stuff there is practically an infinite supply a spaceship away. In any case, the population figure is stating to level off and it is unlikely that humanity will cross 8 billion total. Rather, it seems, there would be a contraction that is already partially in progress.

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  426. What do you do for a living over there?

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  427. As far as Im concerned….This needs to be understood differently. The shortage of women in the UK and US also probably has more to do with the disproportionate amount of quality of men in these countries.

    In my experience, living in Canada, many moderate or average-looking Canadian women love going to the USA, for instance, because they experience an immediate boost in self-esteem. If they are a 6, they get hit on like they are an 8 etc. In addition, they get hit on by higher quality men than they would here (i.e. guys with more money, tall, “good looks”, alpha, even celebs etc.). So the problem is also that the US and UK has tons of attractive, tall wealthy alpha men who all scramble for the few remaining pretty women. This minority of “pretty women” in US/UK develop an ego (i.e. start gaining wait, looking terrible etc.) because they are always being chased by so many alpha wealthy attractive men who accept lower and lower quality women. When I lived in NYC for years, I was shocked at the medocrity of the women you would see with wealthy attractive guys – people who were labeled “playboys” etc. They were just so average, yet acted like they were more than that.

    Dont get me wrong, I know the USA never had women as attractive as Europeans etc. but sheez……

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  428. Gorb mentioned his bigger size as a reason Korean women might like him. That might make her feel feminine when you are standing right next to her, but that can be a liability in battle. I remember reading an article about a Vietnamese soldier in the Vietnam War and he said he found an American soldier’s daily ration of food, which he survived on for a week.

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  429. Morselleaux, if you don’t believe that humanity has finite resources available then you, sir, are innumerate.

    Whatever the number is – 6 billion or 6000,00000000 billion, the earths resources are finite, and population expansion can’t be sustained indefinitely.

    You asteroid mining plan is a fantasy, as it relates to our current issues. If and when technology ever gets that advanced, we’ll have entirely new problems to deal with. Robot armies, for one thing. But I’ve never in all my science and science fiction meanderings come across any viable plan to gather large amounts of resources in any practical way for use on this planet from off of this planet.

    We humans FEEL an urge to procreate. Please don’t make the same mistake that the female mind is prone to make, and to argue from this feeling some vague notion of reality that does not exist, and could not exist.

    Finite resources are finite resources.

    My point stands. Pumping out kids is not a social good. It is a biological imperative. The two are not equal.

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  430. Laura, I’m pretty sure Gorb was talking about his dick.

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  431. I agree with xsplat on this. Pumping out kids is not a social good. If you do have children, raising them to be decent people is important for the social good.

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  432. Laura, did not know Gorby is a soldier… Or is he?

    If not, this is yet another of your numerous non-sequitur.

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  433. I don’t know. I just wanted to make a point that being bigger or taller isn’t always an advantage for a man.

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  434. on September 6, 2010 at 3:53 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’xsplat
    Morselleaux, if you don’t believe that humanity has finite resources available then you, sir, are innumerate.

    Whatever the number is – 6 billion or 6000,00000000 billion, the earths resources are finite, and population expansion can’t be sustained indefinitely.
    ”””””””

    Would we run out of O2 and CO2?

    ”””””If and when technology ever gets that advanced, we’ll have entirely new problems to deal with. Robot armies””””””’

    We allready have that capability. Been trying to tell you guys world going to end as we know it unless we do the one world power. lol

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  435. xsplat, if you mean pumping out kids as a ward of state, I agree. Withing the family context, it is a different story because family has it natural brakes–e.g. how many kids it can support is the limiting factor.

    As for finite resources, still a BS. Even if we were confined to this rock, the only problem is scarcity of resources which is only a temporary issue. Usually, a scarcity is compensated by decrease of population–it a self regulating system. And no, when we “use up” available minerals, we don’t use them up. They are still present, they did not disappear, laws of physics, look them up. We just changed their distribution within the system. We did not even scratched the surface, or oceans for that matter.

    Sure, there is this “peak oil”, and there is a tiny bit of truth in that, but just a tiny bit. I don’t want to derail the thread into a discussion about energy policies, financial interests and related matters.

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  436. O2 and Co2 are fine, of course, Gun. India is already having problems with ground water levels that are used in irrigation dropping faster than they are being replenished, and is expecting heavy famine. No solution is planned or in sight. China is having equally serious water issues. That there “could be” a solution isn’t the issue. There are resource problems, and these will lead to resource conflicts. Some important minerals are are running out. We all know about over fishing. Oil is still an issue. That there “could” be oil alternatives is pretty much beside the point. There will be resource conflicts, and very severe cut backs on the number of people we can feed. We are not using foresight to avoid the obvious upcoming resource wars.

    A lot of solutions could be. But no matter which solutions we find and invent, there is always a malthusian limit. The social good includes the prudence of population control. I don’t see that we are currently being prudent.

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  437. on September 6, 2010 at 4:34 pm gunslingergregi

    Well start a blog Morsellaux sounds good.

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  438. xsplat, fishing (or as you label it overfishing) is such a a good example…

    The catch must be certain regulated size. Now let’s see what happens….

    The smaller fish is released, while the big fish in their reproductive peak is harvested. A selection pressure is created, fish that remains small survives longer. The reproduction cycle stretches as the small fish matures later and there is less fish per time unit produced. Vicious cycle. It is not that there is a lack of fish at present (it is coming to that, though, if we continue to be stupid), but there is nearly no big fish left.

    See, my uncle was a manager of fish ponds almost half a century ago and he knew this stuff. But the do-gooders, the feel people, have their own brilliant ideas.

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  439. comment?

    http://krauserpua.com/2010/09/06/daygame-allstars/

    in any event, it’s time for another “state of the industry/subculture” remark from roissy.

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  440. @Nicole: “because I understand guys resent attention from ugly girls”

    This is true, mainly because some of ugly girls are so desperate they will stick to anyone who gives them the time of day like velcro, which in a social situation can be detrimental to the guy’s SMV, not to mention making the guy lament his polite beta ways and the prospect of having to settle for someone he could barely nurse a semi for, let alone be ashamed to parade around in public. Of course, there’s not necessarily a presumption of a relationship, but this is how it’s ‘wired’ biologically if you will.

    @Gorbachev: “I’m not interested in ideology, Laura. I come to racialism not from racism or tribalism: I come to it from biology”

    Ditto. Though I would say I was somewhat spurned on by wanting to distance myself from liberals’ la-la-la-I’m-not-listening-isms.

    “The American guys who go overseas are just doing what’s in their best interests.”

    Same with British guys, judging by how our country is going the same way as yours. There are other peoples who are not entirely dissimilar to us genetically where I feel a sense of kinship but recognise a better and more accessible quality of woman. At least it’s not like an omega getting an East Asian mail order bride.

    @Laura: “I agree with xsplat on this. Pumping out kids is not a social good. If you do have children, raising them to be decent people is important for the social good.”

    Something that a lot of White Nationalists need to realise. You’ve got these walrus women in Appalachia pumping out tons of kids just for the sake of the ‘white race’, when those kids might as well be ‘niggers’ judging by their feral behaviour.

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  441. So you agree, Morselleax, that the fishery is being mismanaged and we are heading for a worsening of the current fishery crisis.

    Seems to me you’d rather not stare the into the void directly, but would prefer to dream up a god and an afterlife to keep you warm and cozy. Same thing with your notion of infinite resources.

    Must be a peaceful way to live.

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  442. Gun, I might at some point start a blog, too busy starting tomorrow on a heavy work load… for several months at the least, prolly there won’t be even much time left for reading this blog.

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  443. Seems to me you’d rather not stare the into the void directly, but would prefer to dream up a god and an afterlife to keep you warm and cozy. Same thing with your notion of infinite resources.

    Must be a peaceful way to live.

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  444. on September 6, 2010 at 6:03 pm gunslingergregi

    Well have fun.

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  445. Gorbachev

    On the other hand, Korean guys usually score the hottest Japanese women. Japanese women are a huge fetish in Korea. Tell your buddies you had a Japanese girlfriend, and they ooh and ahh.

    Korean was a colony of Japan for 40 years following the Russian Japanese war of 1905 which Japan won. It’s not uncommon at all for the formerly ruled to have a special attraction for the women of their former rulers. That’s part of the attraction for black guys for white women, even if it is usually fat, lower class or older white women.

    I doubt if many Korean guys did so well with Japanese girls soon after the war. Korea was too far below Japan economically. But these days with Korea still climbing rapidly upward and Japan still rather stagnating, and with so many Japanese guys acting so herbish, things are different. Korean men are still pretty militant it seems.

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  446. Laura–

    Around here we:

    1) really hate, hate, hate what feminism has done to so, so many American women. Entitled superior nagging bitches. Not in the least feminine, many of them. Hard assed competitive. And

    2) hate hate hate how fat so many American girls have gotten.

    So why the hell should we be loyal in general. Instead we should shame the hell out them and denigrate them. Like Brit guys who may even have it worse. (Though feminism there isn’t quite has hard edged legally as here. )

    Individual girls can be very different from this. I like mine a whole lot. Of course she wasn’t born here either, and her parents grew up in another country.

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  447. Gorbachev–

    The women who whine about it now – where were they when the radical feminists were sucking the life from American males? Dropping nuclear bombs on Marriage 2.0? Getting fat and blaming us for wanting non-fat women? Blaming us for not liking women who’ve ridden more dicks than we’ve ever seen in locker rooms? Watching the endless parade of commercials, TV shows, movies and books denigrating and insulting the very fact of Mens’ existences?

    Seriously, are we supposed to, out of loyalty to our race, appreciate fat, arrogant, entitled slutty men-in-women’s-bodies?

    I can think of lots of reasons for being racially loyal. Among them what I want my kids to look like. But frankly, loyalty to what Western women are today isn’t one of them.

    I like the looks of Eurasians just fine. Further unlike with blacks the kids of such unions are considered mixed by just about everybody, and treated that way. It’s generally a plus for the kids, especially if they’re girls but not a negative for guys.

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  448. on September 6, 2010 at 6:42 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””I like the looks of Eurasians just fine. Further unlike with blacks the kids of such unions are considered mixed by just about everybody, and treated that way. It’s generally a plus for the kids, especially if they’re girls but not a negative for guys.”””””

    And they get to partake in eo unlike if you have the all white version.

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  449. on September 6, 2010 at 6:44 pm gunslingergregi

    Isn’t that the lesson we learn from politically correct to give your kids a leg up make them a minority.

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  450. on September 6, 2010 at 6:46 pm gunslingergregi

    And of course good looking doesn’t hurt on top of that.

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  451. @Doug1
    “I like the looks of Eurasians just fine. Further unlike with blacks the kids of such unions are considered mixed by just about everybody, and treated that way. It’s generally a plus for the kids, especially if they’re girls but not a negative for guys.”

    Doug1, there are definitely pros and cons to the whole Eurasian thing. The negatives I find most difficult. I am neither here nor there. It was the hardest during high school when everyone is trying to find their place. I found the solution to be one where you needed to be able to switch team easily! ha! it worked. This is a bonus now in the professional world. Good hey?! lalalalala!! haha!! see, we can always turn and negative to a positive!

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  452. One more thing. Got more discrimination from my fellow Asians! get that!!—especially from women. No hard feelings. Try to make the best of it and unite women all the time. We are alll girls, so I work hard to make it work. Love my fellow girls!

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  453. on September 6, 2010 at 7:38 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””””’what
    One more thing. Got more discrimination from my fellow Asians!
    ”””””””

    Yea asian are immune from the asian charms he he he

    My womans mom stays on her ass if she deviates slightly from the program lol

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  454. what

    One more thing. Got more discrimination from my fellow Asians! get that!! —especially from women.

    Doesn’t surprise me at all.

    btw, I’m guessing you live in Hong Kong.

    I’d also guess you’ll end up marrying a white guy.

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  455. Damn, this Mongolian/Chinese mix girl mentioned by Gorb is pretty damn hot:

    http://cute-china-girl.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html

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  456. @Doug1

    “btw, I’m guessing you live in Hong Kong.”

    Once. Way to crowded and materialistic and status conscious! have you been? Don’t you find it so?

    “I’d also guess you’ll end up marrying a white guy.”

    Maybe.

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  457. http://roissy.wordpress.com/2010/07/29/chicks-dig-jerks-game-is-its-own-status/

    I love this article, this is happening all across Canadian suburbs.

    Thought this blog was about Alpha males, somehow this post is turning into the asian girl blog. I mean seriously, for a white guy to pickup an asian girl in Korea, Japan and China does not take much game at all. Must be like fishing for ducks in a barrel. Once these ladies sense that you are from a western country (especially America) they must think they have found there meal ticket.

    Korean girls are attractive but why an earth do Oriental girls get that eye-slit surgery, there eyes is what makes them somewhat sexy in the first place.
    Personally, I do not find them attractive but they are feminine and have a certain class, which as stated is lacking from British/American girls.

    For me Eastern Europe and Scandinavia has better looking women who like to “party”, the downside is that I do not believe they make good wives and they age badly.

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  458. What–

    Yuup I’ve been there. It is pretty damn crowded but I was moving in lux circles on business, so only really experience that full bore when went in search of true local conditions tourist like. This was some time ago. Only once, for a few days.

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  459. What–

    Canadian then. Vancouver area most likely.

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  460. SD-

    “That girl in the picture would be as pretty as Cheryl Cole if she lost the weight.”

    I love you Sibling, I do, but there’s no way in hell the girl in the picture above would ever be as pretty as Cheryl Cole. Bone structure SD, bone structure. And the nose…pig vs. Venus. Sorry, fail.

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  461. Gorb-

    “Laura has it right – I need to slow down the verbiage.”

    –nonsense, you’re my flax and grains in the morning. wonk 😉

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  462. @Doug1,

    Don’t want to be rude, but I’d rather like my privacy. I’ve been told I am ultra private. hehe!! that’s me! I don’t pry too. I’m very fair.

    I visit HK quite often…. I get claustrophobic there, but I manage.

    Thanks.

    You know, It’s nice you actually talk to people, instead of simply making a statement and demonstrating knowledge. …human.

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  463. http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&safe=off&q=fat%20americans&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1366&bih=608

    Fat americans roissy, 5 and a half million pages of it.
    just go ahead and process the shit out of that.
    even if our country had 100% ugly women (lets say approx 40 million), there would STILL be more uglier ones and fatter ones in your country

    also well done on finding that picture of miss surrey 2008, i am sure it was quite a challenge finding a photo of appropriate fame and hideousness to illustrate your point.

    i also love how you make a habit of using questionable surveys and sporadic random outliers to prove your point in a whole slew of topics.

    in summary, your articles on feminism, correct sir
    your, articles on game and how to be an alpha male, correct again sir

    your articles on EVERYTHING else, so far off the mark its laughable

    no wonder you keep your politics to yourself when you’re gaming a girl, its awfully hard to gina tingle when you’re going out with a fucktard for a date

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  464. Quote: “The ugly races are :

    Australian Aboriginals
    West Africans
    Amerindian Mestizos
    Sri Lankans, Javanese, etc. (very similar to Austronesian people)

    These are races where you could see thousands of women without ever seeing an 8 or higher.

    Almost all other races have at least OK women… ”

    You forgot to add , Chinese.

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  465. on September 6, 2010 at 10:00 pm gunslingergregi

    Well not for long mr c their men will soon be coming to us on vacation and buying up woman lol

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  466. The question is, *why* are British women generally unattractive?

    They should have a combination of Nordic (Viking) and Norman (French) genes, both good, should they not?

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  467. English are the most beautiful girls in the world. However, this is speaking of the #1 draft picks – not of the medians or means or modes or distributions, which I have no information about.

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  468. The Norman (Northman) was a Viking – maybe a Danish one if I recall. Since they attacked all the time, the powers of France gave them the Normandy coast to satiate them. However, they may have been admixed, eventually, with the chthonic Francaise.

    Besides, I don’t think the Norman invaders were very numerous. What you mean is that English are a mix of chthonic Insular Celts, and (especially in the SE) Anglo-Saxon southern Germanics who colonized in large numbers, with a little bit of Viking north Germanic and French thrown in from the Norman and other Viking incursions. The chthonic Insular Celts are probably mostly derived from super-chthonic paleolithic foragers, so they are rather Ur-European compared to, say, Czechs.

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  469. the celts came from the underworld in an aleister crowley story?

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  470. @what

    “Once. Way to crowded and materialistic and status conscious! have you been? Don’t you find it so? ”

    How so?

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  471. @xsplat and @Laura,

    You’re right. Pumping out kids isn’t a social good, it’s a biological program.

    But raising kids you’ve made *is* a social good if you do it well.

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  472. @Laura
    I don’t know. I just wanted to make a point that being bigger or taller isn’t always an advantage for a man.

    I was tactfully referencing white men’s penises. But also general size.

    Within certain limits, larger (taller), broad frame and strength are always advantages.

    Shorter girls love taller guys.

    But I’m only 5’10”.

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  473. “Only” 5’10? In consensual reality you’re not much taller than me, but in emotional reality you are one order of magnitude taller.

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  474. on September 6, 2010 at 11:41 pm Prophet Jeremiah your Daddy

    you are lovely together.

    Gorbachev
    @Laura
    I don’t know. I just wanted to make a point that being bigger or taller isn’t always an advantage for a man.

    I was tactfully referencing white men’s penises. But also general size.

    Within certain limits, larger (taller), broad frame and strength are always advantages.

    Shorter girls love taller guys.

    But I’m only 5’10″.

    on September 6, 2010 at 11:28 pm
    xsplat
    “Only” 5’10? In consensual reality you’re not much taller than me, but in emotional reality you are one order of magnitude taller.

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  475. xsplat, shorty? 5’8″? Does not matter. with a good game even “le petit caporal” became Napoleon.

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  476. @Cyning
    @Gorbachev: “I’m not interested in ideology, Laura. I come to racialism not from racism or tribalism: I come to it from biology”

    Ditto. Though I would say I was somewhat spurned on by wanting to distance myself from liberals’ la-la-la-I’m-not-listening-isms.

    That’s the most disappointing thing: They mean well, but are both blind and deaf. And dim, when you get down to it.

    Biologists view humans the same way they view cockroaches or trees. This is what we are: Lifeforms. Just because we’re human, doesn’t exempt us from the same rules that govern all life on Earth. The liberals use the same faulty logic the religious do, but they refuse to see it – just like the religious.

    PC-Liberalism is a religion. “Humans are special snowflakes.”

    We’re not. Evolutionary biology practically imposes a form of racialism on us. If it applies to squirrels and monkeys, then it applies to us.

    “The American guys who go overseas are just doing what’s in their best interests.”

    Same with British guys, judging by how our country is going the same way as yours. There are other peoples who are not entirely dissimilar to us genetically where I feel a sense of kinship but recognise a better and more accessible quality of woman. At least it’s not like an omega getting an East Asian mail order bride.

    Exactly. I laugh when I hear these white guys talk about Asian Fever or Can’t-Make-It-Here. Or hear complaints from White Nationalists. Who gives a shit.

    There’s nothing wrong with non-white women. Asians, for one race, often make better over-all companions. Often not, but if you’re not repulsed by members of another race, why not bail out of a badly sinking ship?

    Lower the price of degrading American pussy. Can only be good.

    @Laura: “I agree with xsplat on this. Pumping out kids is not a social good. If you do have children, raising them to be decent people is important for the social good.”

    Something that a lot of White Nationalists need to realise. You’ve got these walrus women in Appalachia pumping out tons of kids just for the sake of the ‘white race’, when those kids might as well be ‘niggers’ judging by their feral behaviour.

    A lot of White Nationalists don’t see the radical drop in overall *quality* of the lower-classes of whites in this country. It’s getting harder to distinguish the lower-class whites/blacks/hispanics.

    I’m not sure who said it, but a 120-IQ white person has likely more in common with someone similar from any other race than he does with a 90-IQ member of his own race.

    People of Walmart.

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  477. Ya, Morse, I’m modestly short. Not terribly short in Asia though. I’m also balding, and fugly.

    I don’t consider myself to have game. I suck at building attraction. I play well to my strengths though.

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  478. Feature wise South Asian women are better in comparison to European one, particularly British and that may be a reason that multitude of Brits visit India to taste the delicious ladies of Indian subcontinent!!

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  479. Dana, yea, wondered about that too.

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  480. @Doug1
    Damn, this Mongolian/Chinese mix girl mentioned by Gorb is pretty damn hot:

    http://cute-china-girl.blogspot.com/2009_04_01_archive.html

    There are girls almost as hot as this all over the damned place out there.

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  481. Lawyerjourno, your comment invited this…

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  482. @anoukange
    Gorb-

    “Laura has it right – I need to slow down the verbiage.”

    –nonsense, you’re my flax and grains in the morning. wonk 😉

    That’s my ambition. Fibrosity.

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  483. Gorbachev, what’s stopping you from moving back?

    This is not snark; it’s a totally serious question. If I remember correctly, you don’t have kids and don’t really have any solid anchors in North America.

    Why not leave it all behind (again) and head east (again)?

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  484. on September 7, 2010 at 1:18 am Cannon's Canon

    jesus fucking christ, i step away from the interwebs for like almost 24 hours and gorbachev is still ranting about white nationalists. they are truly the greatest perversion of mankind that this grizzled old man perceives from his ivory tower perch in new england. yes, the white nationalists, in their infinite over-reactive paranoia, have spearheaded so many detriments to Public Goods that they must be called out.

    judge every Black, Jew, Mexican, Amerindian, Mestizo, or Aztec/Incan/Mayan with a population-group appeal. sure, have them submit a 100 word writing sample to determine their likelihood of assimilating to Traditional Western Civilization, or simply upsetting you tomorrow. throw in all the Slants, for that matter.

    gorbachev, you write to persuade. that is your nature. i will persuade more effectively than you, because i am smarter than you.

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  485. @danathe celts came from the underworld in an aleister crowley story?

    You mean Lovecraft.

    And yes, they did.

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  486. @xsplat
    “Only” 5’10? In consensual reality you’re not much taller than me, but in emotional reality you are one order of magnitude taller.

    ??

    No sure what the hell that means.

    I spend too much time on blogs, for sure, if I have to ask what the hell this means.

    I need a more challenging job, is what I need.

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  487. on September 7, 2010 at 2:52 am Anonymouses Anonymous

    Hopefully this works.

    Here is Miss Surley( 😉 ) along with the other finalists for Miss England. FYI, she is size 16. By herself, she looks do-able with a few beers and a bag to cover your face, and the lights out and you are turned on by the thought of making love to an elephant seal.

    [img]http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Official+Miss+England+Bikini+2008+Photocall+3Ud9EttdSiMl.jpg[/img]

    In case that does not work, here is the link:

    I could understand Surrey voting her, because there might not be a lot of women to choose from. But to be in the Miss England finalists, the rest of England has to be pretty fugly.

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  488. on September 7, 2010 at 2:53 am Zaftig Connoisseur

    What if you just happen to like larger women? I know I do.

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  489. Contest, some lovely young ladies…

    German

    Japanese

    Brazilian

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  490. Gorby

    @xsplat
    “Only” 5’10? In consensual reality you’re not much taller than me, but in emotional reality you are one order of magnitude taller.

    No sure what the hell that means.
    ————————————–

    I’ll translate.
    xsplat is a couple of inches shorter of your 5’10”. A marginal difference in the physical sense..

    But in the world of perception, how it is reflected in a female mind, difference works like a Richter scale. Every couple of inches has ten times more value.

    He is exaggerating, of course. It has some significance in initial selection, but with a proper game, this aspect fades into a background.

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  491. Cyning says, “This is true, mainly because some of ugly girls are so desperate they will stick to anyone who gives them the time of day like velcro, which in a social situation can be detrimental to the guy’s SMV, not to mention making the guy lament his polite beta ways and the prospect of having to settle for someone he could barely nurse a semi for, let alone be ashamed to parade around in public. Of course, there’s not necessarily a presumption of a relationship, but this is how it’s ‘wired’ biologically if you will.”

    I’d go even further to say that the “desperation” is hard wired into ugly girls.

    Ugly doesn’t pop up from out of nowhere usually. Some ugly parent had to have produced ugly children. In a monogamous society, this is going to happen a lot because people will pair up based on things other than looks.

    When the culture starts to implode though, being ugly becomes a sin and a crime. So you’ve got girls running around who are the marrying type with nobody willing to marry them. Devotion becomes “desperation”.

    “Desperate” is the male way of saying “creepy”. It’s only desperation if you feel the woman who likes you is beneath you.

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  492. Morsellaux
    Lawyerjourno, your comment invited this…

    What did you wish to show by this.

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  493. “I’m not sure who said it, but a 120-IQ white person has likely more in common with someone similar from any other race than he does with a 90-IQ member of his own race.”

    That would be Ayn Rand.

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  494. on September 7, 2010 at 6:31 am gunslingergregi

    @Morsellaux

    Are you trying to assert another tourist destination?

    But your right in the indian movies the dancing chicks ain’t bad.

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  495. lawyerjourno, What did you wish to show by this.

    I suppose you meant that as a question, not a statement.

    Well, you were so serious about the Indian subcontinent chicks that I saw the need to introduce some levity.

    Also, I am getting outsourced phone calls from India (and they are in English!) and I often feel I am subtitling based on what I think it sounded like, occasionally I think they go too fast 🙂

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  496. Gun, not my intent, though there may be a plenty of hot chicks over there. The question is to what degree are they accessible. As with languages (many), the cultural patterns may be different from state to state, even from village to village. Light-skinned chicks are a prized commodity (usually from upper castes, which is another cultural layer to surmount), so you would be competing with a lot of Indian guys and not entirely sure how they would feel about you.

    Probably: “I’ll keel you!”

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  497. on September 7, 2010 at 8:00 am gunslingergregi

    Well as normal the indian guys I have met I could take in a fight he he he

    They seem to tend towards pacifist but I think they have no problem slapping the shit out of woman.

    Dude was telling me stories of being afraid of fag crossdressing gangs on buses though and how they would ask for money and if you didn’t give it they would beat you lol

    He said they were very strong.

    So maybe one of my reasons for not pushing it to hard although maybe he was a smart indian. he he he

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  498. on September 7, 2010 at 8:03 am gunslingergregi

    If I ever go I will have social proof there as well.

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  499. Light-skinned chicks are a prized commodity (usually from upper castes, which is another cultural layer to surmount), so you would be competing with a lot of Indian guys and not entirely sure how they would feel about you.//

    Hahaha, you are right. People are so much fascinated about fair skin that they can go even to fight for a chick who is fair and possess ample bosom. Bosom again is a fixation for billion plus Indians and you can see the same in numerous Bollywood item numbers. Whereas white people are getting away from sex, Indians are going to the level of pervert!!

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  500. @Gorbachev: Biologists view humans the same way they view cockroaches or trees. This is what we are: Lifeforms. Just because we’re human, doesn’t exempt us from the same rules that govern all life on Earth. The liberals use the same faulty logic the religious do, but they refuse to see it – just like the religious.

    PC-Liberalism is a religion. “Humans are special snowflakes.”

    We’re not. Evolutionary biology practically imposes a form of racialism on us. If it applies to squirrels and monkeys, then it applies to us.

    Indeed. Even if races were equal, there are still dark, feral parts of the human psyche that left-liberalism and religious-right can’t hack.

    PC-Liberalism and religious ‘logic’ is “this is our conclusion; what facts can we cherrypick/bend/ignore to support them?” whereas true realists say “these are the facts, what conclusions can we draw?” The former type of people are scared of the possible implications drawn from the truth e.g. liberals thinking HBD studies is some sliding scale to another Holocaust.

    That said, there is more truth in Hinduism than in PC-Liberalism if you ask me.

    There’s nothing wrong with non-white women. Asians, for one race, often make better over-all companions. Often not, but if you’re not repulsed by members of another race, why not bail out of a badly sinking ship?

    I live in the UK equivalent of a People of Walmart town, which has a large ASDA store, a UK subsidiary of Walmart, funnily enough. I’m trying to move to a better area before I jump ship. I’m proud to be English and want to first try living where our better citizens are. I’d rather live in a SWPL city than a People of Walmart town, since those (and shades in between) are seemingly the only two options in this country, barring the overcrowded capital and secluded villages.

    A lot of White Nationalists don’t see the radical drop in overall *quality* of the lower-classes of whites in this country. It’s getting harder to distinguish the lower-class whites/blacks/hispanics.

    I’m not sure who said it, but a 120-IQ white person has likely more in common with someone similar from any other race than he does with a 90-IQ member of his own race.

    Very true. But y’see, what I draw from this fact is that there are two sides to this coin as said lower-class whites bring nationalism into disrepute and so middle-classes become more SWPL and erroneously associate “non-white” with “good” and so ridiculing poor *non-whites* would be unthinkable.

    Just remember, middle-classes always find a way to look better than the lower-classes, and lower-classes care not for middle-class status games, hence today’s middle-class liberalism and lower-class unashamed nationalism, ergo the only image of nationalism being a bad one. Hello decline!

    @Nicole: Ugly doesn’t pop up from out of nowhere usually. Some ugly parent had to have produced ugly children.

    No it doesn’t come out of nowhere, uglies are from ugly stock, etc.

    In a monogamous society, this is going to happen a lot because people will pair up based on things other than looks.

    Yes, compatibility is as important as anything, but that doesn’t diminish the importance of looks. Uglies* breed with uglies because that’s how the sexual market works. They’ve learned their place (whether internalised consciously or subconsciously) and rationalised it by pairing up and acting as if they’re soulmates and would really prefer eachother over anyone else, their common values/interests essentially a surrogate for their limited sexual attraction.

    *read: low SMV respective to gender

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  501. the woman in those two videos is a former miss universe.
    they are old videos though, the last time I watched a bollywood movie, they were high on getting foreign white skinned dancers.

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  502. on September 7, 2010 at 8:27 am gunslingergregi

    ”””’Very true. But y’see, what I draw from this fact is that there are two sides to this coin as said lower-class whites bring nationalism into disrepute and so middle-classes become more SWPL and erroneously associate “non-white” with “good” and so ridiculing poor *non-whites* would be unthinkable. ””””

    Yea it is funny because you can’t talk about the minorities and you can’t talk shit on poor woman the only one left is white men lol

    But really I mean go to poor white neighborhood and not the same problems.

    When shit hits fan race gonna matter.

    When there is war it is the white men from us fighting it.

    You aren’t going to see swpl’s volunteering to go so if you get rid of patriatism completely then really yea nobody is going to be willing to fight unless it involves killing swpl’s.

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  503. […] I am misunderstanding Roissy when he says: Maxim #102: The hottest babes will not be found in prosperous countries, but in countries on the […]

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  504. The thing is, without poor whties, upper middle class and upper class ones are in a precarious situation. All living organisms require a sustainable habitat and Gorbachev’s breathless “upper class internationalism” is a formula for becoming a despised, earth-wandering caste whose numbers thin with each generation.

    The points about “whtie trash” are in large part red herrings. The reason is, that with a solid culture, sub-95 IQ people can be good and decent. That still describes poor wht America, in very large part.

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  505. Cyning,
    Interesting comment about poor whites and their patriotism. That is true in the US also. I think the lower classes in England always had their problems, but didn’t they used to behave better than they do now? In Dickens’ novels and other things I’ve read they still seemed to have a code of behavior.

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  506. In fact poor white of East Europe particularly from Russia and disintegrated Soviet nations girls are beautiful than developed England, Germany, Italy. Even Nordic countries have nice looking chicks than the USA. Poverty does not mean that a person can be ugly there are numerous examples of persons from low class producing wonderfully looking girls.

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  507. Middle class people produce lot better chicks than upper class who most often are obese. While middle class people care for beauty and other values more than rich class people, rich males enjoy the beauties of middle and lower class beautiful chicks!!

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  508. I think it may be easier to shame people of your own race into good behavior than it is to shame people of another race.

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  509. “the woman in those two videos is a former miss universe.
    they are old videos though, the last time I watched a bollywood movie, they were high on getting foreign white skinned dancers”

    It used to be that foreign dancers were hired for bollywood films because they could show them dancing like sluts (minimal clothing, raunchy moves etc) which indian girls were not supposed to do.

    Bear in mind that in India, couples even holding hands in public are frowned upon never mind kissing or other pdas. Funnily enough, you’ll often see men walking hand in hand, not because they are gay but because this is culturally acceptable (e.g. like shaking hands or something in the west).

    This has probably changed by now (i.e. these days they probably do get indian girls acting like sluts), but even back then bollywood recognised white western women for the sluts they were/are and used them to sex up their films.

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  510. On topic, and in fairness to us brits, that fat girl that won Ms Surrey was rightly regarded as a joke. TV and media tried to play it up as the idea that she represented the ‘everyday woman’ in the UK which is probably correct as far as it goes, but there was always an uncomfortable cognitive dissonance about the whole thing as if the people spinning the feminist line were painfully aware of how ridiculous it was.

    I think it certainly made the UK look foolish in the eyes of foreigners – how can anyone respect a nation that puts whales like that up as the embodiement of female beauty?

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  511. Laura: bingo

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  512. Going to London in late November. I don’t think it’ll be as bad as you all say. Big cities have a way of attracting the best looking people.

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  513. @Laura
    Cyning,
    Interesting comment about poor whites and their patriotism. That is true in the US also. I think the lower classes in England always had their problems, but didn’t they used to behave better than they do now? In Dickens’ novels and other things I’ve read they still seemed to have a code of behavior.

    We should show our own culture some loyalty. If we don’t, no-one will. But there’s a limit to sacrifice we should make.

    Same goes for feminism. Our own women deserve some respect. But let’s face it – we’re also men. The women have to put some effort into being actual women.

    if they refuse to do this, we can unashamedly cease putting work into being “their” men.

    That said, I’m not doing that personally. I’m not straying too far off the mark. But I could, and might. I want my personal special snowflake too, and if she’s not white, so be it.

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  514. @dalerojo

    Gorbachev, what’s stopping you from moving back?

    This is not snark; it’s a totally serious question. If I remember correctly, you don’t have kids and don’t really have any solid anchors in North America.

    Why not leave it all behind (again) and head east (again)?

    Job, money, I’m looking for a special snowflake and I want one that speaks English. I pull better now than I did 7 years ago, so I don’t care where I am, and I have more job opportunities here.

    Good enough?

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  515. @Chris

    I mean seriously, for a white guy to pickup an asian girl in Korea, Japan and China does not take much game at all. Must be like fishing for ducks in a barrel. Once these ladies sense that you are from a western country (especially America) they must think they have found there meal ticket.

    China, maybe, but less and less. Korea and Japan, not at all.

    Korean girls are attractive but why an earth do Oriental girls get that eye-slit surgery, there eyes is what makes them somewhat sexy in the first place.

    I agree. But argue with the magazines and see where it gets you.

    Personally, I do not find them attractive but they are feminine and have a certain class, which as stated is lacking from British/American girls.

    The starkest difference is in China. Some girls have less than no class – whiny aristocrats and princesses. Others have so much class, it’s breathtaking. There’s an educated class of Chinese girls that have a certain classiness about them, that even the Japanese/Koreans just don’t have. They just seem superior, and modest about it, too. it’s kind-of Victorian. Worldly, smart, beautiful or not but always in a particularly sharp/feminine way, …

    White-Anglo women used to have that, in spades, if literature is anything to go by. I’ve never, ever met a woman who touched “being a Lady” (in the fullest sense of the word) as this class of well-behaved, well-educated Chinese women. But I read about them all the time. 2-3 generations ago, here in the West.

    Where did they go, and where can we meet them?

    For me Eastern Europe and Scandinavia has better looking women who like to “party”, the downside is that I do not believe they make good wives and they age badly.

    The EEs really do age badly. There’s always a tipping point, but for EEs the threshold point comes earlier and the switch is harder.

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  516. @Doug1,
    Gorbachev
    Korean was a colony of Japan for 40 years following the Russian Japanese war of 1905 which Japan won. It’s not uncommon at all for the formerly ruled to have a special attraction for the women of their former rulers. That’s part of the attraction for black guys for white women, even if it is usually fat, lower class or older white women.

    I buy this, having lived there.

    Japanese porn and sexual openness has a lot to do with it, too, and the fact that the guys can get away with more because they’re trolling outside their apparently conservative culture.

    I doubt if many Korean guys did so well with Japanese girls soon after the war. Korea was too far below Japan economically. But these days with Korea still climbing rapidly upward and Japan still rather stagnating, and with so many Japanese guys acting so herbish, things are different. Korean men are still pretty militant it seems.

    The Jap guys just seem to be off not-wanking and not-dating. WTF they’re doing is anybody’s guess, but they’ve absconded wholesale. All the (hot) Japanese women I met were absurdly easy, relative to other hot women, not because they’re sluts (though they are), but because they just can’t find decent Japanese men. Some say the pool of available Japanese men has been shrunk by the 15%-20% who have crawled off to play video games and live with Mom permanently; another 15% who gave up on women and working entirely. There’s a tradition in Japan of shut-ins (male and female) who disengage from the world, but never on this scale.

    The whole 15-30 generation has lost a massive chunk of its males to self-imposed exile.

    Best time ever to game Japanese airline stewardesses.

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  517. Gorby: “A lot of White Nationalists don’t see the radical drop in overall *quality* of the lower-classes of whites in this country. It’s getting harder to distinguish the lower-class whites/blacks/hispanics.”

    Yes, where have all the virtuous poor gone?

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  518. @Nickolas
    Eh, I don’t know about this Asian women are more ‘feminine’ caper either.

    For the most part though, in my experience that Asian women are whiny, materialistic and terribly dumb (however booksmart). I think some people are using the word ‘feminine’ in place of what they really mean, which is ‘infantile’.

    Some Asian women are like this, for sure. You avoid them like the plague. I believe I said that once. When the Japanese do it it’s a put-on; they’re matter-of-fact in marriage. The changeover from GF – Wife is frighteningly fast there.

    The Chinese seem to suffer from this more than others, especially in HK/Singapore/Shanghai. Beijing less than Shanghai, but people in Beijing are different from Shanghainese in a lot of ways. Different culture, largely. People relate differently. Get them all together and they self-segregate out, often. Taiwanese women are the worst for this infantility.

    No, what I’m getting at is real classiness, which you have to hold out for.

    I really do wish more (some?) white/anglo women had this. We read about it in all the classic literature. Where, oh where, has it gone?

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  519. @AA,

    Japan is so fucking weird.

    Really.

    Just so fucking weird.

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  520. what I draw from this fact is that there are two sides to this coin as said lower-class whites bring nationalism into disrepute and so middle-classes become more SWPL and erroneously associate “non-white” with “good” and so ridiculing poor *non-whites* would be unthinkable.

    Just remember, middle-classes always find a way to look better than the lower-classes, and lower-classes care not for middle-class status games, hence today’s middle-class liberalism and lower-class unashamed nationalism, ergo the only image of nationalism being a bad one.

    change your frame.

    imagine a lower, middle, and upper class of some race all love themselves some ethnocentrism. they all aspire upward, as you say.

    well, you might say, such people are for “enfranchisement”, and white represents disenfranchisement for them, doesn’t it?

    no no no! gorbachev’s two favorite ethnicities, asians and jews, have no trouble earning merit under capitalism. they can actualize their own beauty standards, segregate themselves communally, practice and promote nepotism, and snarl until left alone. what unites these groups to vote together, across caste lines? ethnocentrism, with capitalist meritocracy as a subset standard. under a free market umbrella, they keep that poor<middle<upper dynamic.

    "white trash" is colloquial because it is taught. if this was merely class warfare, middle class whites would distance themselves from the poor of all ethnicities.

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  521. “A lot of White Nationalists don’t see the radical drop in overall *quality* of the lower-classes of whites in this country. It’s getting harder to distinguish the lower-class whites/blacks/hispanics.”

    is there ANY proof at all, anywhere, of this? you know, not counting those two yoots speeding around your town leaving tread-marks. from where do you glean your insight? battered wives’ shelters? the naacp? adl? the carolyn hax advice column?

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  522. on September 7, 2010 at 10:36 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””’Cannon’s Canon
    “A lot of White Nationalists don’t see the radical drop in overall *quality* of the lower-classes of whites in this country. It’s getting harder to distinguish the lower-class whites/blacks/hispanics.”

    is there ANY proof at all, anywhere, of this? you know, not counting those two yoots speeding around your town leaving tread-marks. from where do you glean your insight? battered wives’ shelters? the naacp? adl? the carolyn hax advice column?
    ”””””””

    Yea cannon it does seem that is what is wanted but I still never went out and robbed fuckers with a taser nor shot them for no reason even when I had no money.

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  523. on September 7, 2010 at 10:40 am gunslingergregi

    That may be part of the problem every time some dude making decent money talks some shit some poor white dude needs to show up at his house to at least have the decency to prove the theory.

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  524. on September 7, 2010 at 10:46 am gunslingergregi

    Just like my family same fucking way always some good minorities always some bad whites in the face of evidense for the fucked up minorities but no evidense ever for fucked up whites.

    To qualify as an evil fucked up white the only qualification is not make much money and yet still support yourself without government handouts.

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  525. on September 7, 2010 at 10:48 am gunslingergregi

    Or a person who makes more than college educated white with no college although seeing ferdinand’s blog I am understanding why he he he

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  526. i mentioned to my mother that the first white man had broken the 10 second barrier in a 100m sprint. i explained that though this was commonplace for “black” sprinters, no east african has ever done it. kenya grows elite marathon runners, but it has never fostered a top-class sprinter.

    her knee-jerk reply was “do you think it’s cultural?”

    now, she knows me and knows that i myself certainly don’t think it’s cultural. it was just a bit of that freudian projection, you see.

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  527. @Cannon’s Canon

    “gorbachev, you write to persuade. that is your nature. i will persuade more effectively than you, because i am smarter than you.”

    Boys will be boys!

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  528. @what
    @Cannon’s Canon

    “gorbachev, you write to persuade. that is your nature. i will persuade more effectively than you, because i am smarter than you.”

    Boys will be boys!

    Lots of dudes are smarter than me. I don’t sweat it. Who cares?

    Cannon might be. Maybe not on Tuesdays. Who knows? Who knows what lurks in the hearts of men? Only the Shadow.

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  529. Cyning says, “Yes, compatibility is as important as anything, but that doesn’t diminish the importance of looks. Uglies* breed with uglies because that’s how the sexual market works. They’ve learned their place (whether internalised consciously or subconsciously) and rationalised it by pairing up and acting as if they’re soulmates and would really prefer eachother over anyone else, their common values/interests essentially a surrogate for their limited sexual attraction.

    *read: low SMV respective to gender”

    There’s the sexual market and the marriage market. There is plenty of overlap, but they weren’t the same thing until relatively recently in western history.

    Until recently, youth was more important than beauty, the way people define it nowadays. I’d go as far as to say that the definition of beauty has become warped in western culture because it is nearly a decade off its mark.

    Western men have to now try to determine who’s suitable from a pool of aging women past their peak where before, even though the average age of marriage wasn’t so much lower, the age when courtship was taken seriously for women was about 12-13.

    So a guy often either grew up with or met the woman who was to be his wife, in her early to mid teens, and married her when he could afford to, in her late teens to early twenties. Almost all teenage girls who take care of themselves are pretty.

    I’m not deluded into thinking that everybody is beautiful, but I do think most people have something beautiful about them. So a guy has to decide what his priorities are.

    If a guy goes with his priorities, he doesn’t feel like he’s settling. You may call it rationalization, but it’s no more rationalization than my saying to myself, “Gee, I’d like to have a guy who could handle me and wouldn’t take my shit, but I wouldn’t want one who punched me in the face every time I displeased him in some way.”

    Very domineering guys might be in fashion, but I’d rather have less domineering and more loving. I wouldn’t feel that I was settling by taking a guy less desirable in the sexual market because the most desirable men in general, have traits that are very undesirable to me personally.

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  530. Boys will be boys!

    i’ve been caught in a pissing contest.

    worth pointing out: i try to piss out charm and smarts. someone like ‘the obsidian’ would have pulled out the glocks already.

    must be cultural

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  531. on September 7, 2010 at 11:41 am Santa Clara County Library

    I’m going to shit myself if Cannon and Firepower are actually two different people.

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  532. @Laura: I think the lower classes in England always had their problems, but didn’t they used to behave better than they do now? In Dickens’ novels and other things I’ve read they still seemed to have a code of behavior.

    Yes, they did. But then Gramscian-Marxism came along and told them that all their troubles were someone else’s fault, so they felt like they had less reason to take responsibility for their own actions or aspire to something better through hard work, subsequently developing a culture of irresponsible consumerism, an inability to think about the long-term and excessive breeding beyond control. You wouldn’t believe the number of women who have kids just to get the welfare money. Over generations, this has ramifications for the quality of the populations. Granted, we must make sure not to conflate the industrious working-class from the full-on lumpenproletariat, though that’s not easy when they generally share the same interests (tabloids, football, cheap imported lager, casual sportswear) and general appearance. I’ve met good working-class people who may not have much in common with me but are good, responsible people. However, it only takes an excessively big welfare state to give them less incentive to work, if he is taxed so much for his hard work that he’s better off on the dole.

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  533. @Gorbachev

    “Cannon might be. Maybe not on Tuesdays. Who knows? Who knows what lurks in the hearts of men? Only the Shadow.”

    lol!!! That’s funny.

    I have brothers remember? you are all just very competitive. silly though sometimes. haha!! but, cute!

    What lurks in the heart of men? heehee! hmmmm…….

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  534. on September 7, 2010 at 11:58 am gunslingergregi

    ””””””Granted, we must make sure not to conflate the industrious working-class from the full-on lumpenproletariat, though that’s not easy when they generally share the same interests (tabloids, football, cheap imported lager, casual sportswear) and general appearance. ”””””’

    Harder to seperate because the only way to escape hud housing living next door is to live in a trailer.

    If you look up crime statistics easy to seperate.

    After you seperate out the hispanics from the statistics which is not so easy to do.

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  535. on September 7, 2010 at 12:01 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””if he is taxed so much for his hard work that he’s better off on the dole.””””’

    You can’t really say he you must say she.

    There are not the same number of he on welfare they can’t be.

    The only way for he to get on some sort of welfare is to really be fucked up or have given some service in exchange.

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  536. on September 7, 2010 at 12:03 pm gunslingergregi

    Even for black men to get into money and not have job they are not given the money unless they go on disability or some shit but that doesn’t come close to money the she recieves.

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  537. @Cannon’s Canon

    “i’ve been caught in a pissing contest.”

    Okay, try not to piss then!! lol!!! (only joking! haha!) I know you need to defend yourself and your point. you see, sometimes, it’s not worth it. But…..yes, at times you need to do what you need to do.

    Charm and smarts aren’t so bad.

    maybe cultural? haha!!

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  538. on September 7, 2010 at 12:06 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’full-on lumpenproletariat”””

    The only ones who can be full on wards of the state and free to do as they want are females.

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  539. I think the lower classes in England always had their problems, but didn’t they used to behave better than they do now?

    George Orlwell wrote extensively on the virtues of working class English people. His essay North and South includes his famous comment “if there is one type of man to whom I do feel myself inferior, it is a coal-miner.”

    it only takes an excessively big welfare state to give them less incentive to work, if he is taxed so much for his hard work that he’s better off on the dole.

    I agree and have wondered why Comunism in parts of Eastern Europe failed to produce matriarchal ghetto chavism. At least in some countries. Although crime and thuggishness were a big part of lower class EE, the patriarchal family structure remained intact.

    I suspect three reasons:

    – the welfare state was not very generous (“we pretend to work, they pretend to pay us.”) so self-reliance and family connections were still necessary for survival. If you didn’t have relatives out in the country (and most people did) you didn’t eat a lot of meat.

    – the commie Kulturkampf was mostly economic, with lip service to loving our Soviet brothers. It never really intruded into the family level, where Catholicism (where applicable) was allowed to keep the traditions. In contrast, the Western socio-ideologies go straight under the family unit.

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  540. The above two (not three) factors of EE communism mostly apply to Poland. I’m not as familiar with the more draconian commie regimes like East Germany or Romania.

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  541. Congrats, roissy & co. for your sly perserverence.

    It is nice to finally put a face to pupu.

    http://roissy.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/charlene-carrington-profile-pic.jpg?w=329&h=356

    sorry puups, it just wont work – i think we should be just friends, mkay

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  542. “The thing is, without poor whties, upper middle class and upper class ones are in a precarious situation. All living organisms require a sustainable habitat and Gorbachev’s breathless “upper class internationalism” is a formula for becoming a despised, earth-wandering caste whose numbers thin with each generation. ”

    I think that used to be true but isn’t so much – for better or worse. Again, I say this as an observation not endorsement.

    Even in my lifetime I have observed a remarkable drive toward cultural homogeneity among the world’s nations. The cultural similarities among all developed nations outweigh the differences. Globalization, the internet, common technologies, etc. It simply was a completely different world 30 years ago, and if you’re under 30 you may not truly get the magnitude of the changes.

    If Ayn Rand said what I said above (and from my reading of her, I seem to recall sentiments of that nature), then she probably saw it coming as well. She saw a lot of things coming.

    xsplat, Malthusianism isn’t some inherently-realistic-hence-superior view of mankind’s fate. It has been around for centuries in its various incarnations and has been spectacularly wrong multiple times. Whether one adopts it is more indicative of a particular temperament than ability to predict. (I tend to think Malthusians understand logistics better than technology as a matter of make-up.)

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  543. modding?
    again?
    yes?

    what
    mirthful
    schizophrenia

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  544. Even in my lifetime I have observed a remarkable drive toward cultural homogeneity among the world’s nations.

    This homogenity is surface-deep, and temporary in my assessment. Things like (1) intractable HBD-related factors, (2) religious and cultural differences ultimately rooted in male territoriality, and (3) competition due to uneven distribution of female attractiveness will always divide humans, and for that reason it is very unwise to groom oneself to be a “man without a country.”

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  545. Wow You kids got a get a life…

    551 posts on a Holiday Weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Anyway… keep in mind every hour here is one hour less of hot sex with Women.

    Field Report:

    Sex with a 26 yo and 31 yo this weekend; gaming 23 yo model (10.0) as well via txt, date Thur. 1 other bang 10 days ago.

    3 women have been seduced over last 6 wks,

    Key:

    If you are banging more than 3+ women, your game is exponentially better than just having steady 1 sex partner with the BS line “i’ll keep gaming other girls on side”

    FACT: you wont, ever!

    You will get lazy, and attached and whipped.

    When you are banging 3+ women, you cannot get attached, you are always on the run, setting up next meeting, juggling details, noting differences in their sex, pussy, asses, and stimulating ur natural ALPHA.

    Tiny miniscule details u would never note, are massively noted by the 2+ women & other potential prime Women.

    -being seen out with 2+ women

    -banging 2+ pussy inside 24 hrs

    -Random txts, cell vibrating, hot pics appearing on screen, gallery view

    -Innocently mixing up their detail: “What r u studying?”, Ur Vegan? U have a sister?

    -NOT responding to escalating emails from Prime women (ie, ur banging while she emails at 2 am “R u out?”, u reply at 6am) who know u have better options. No man in his sane mind passes up a 2am txt, and they now this.

    -You dont get stealth whipped; banging 1 women only gets u whipped, even if she lets u out 6 nites a wk.

    I went from brutal dry spell to 5 bangs this summer; 3 simultaneously….

    Doubt these pearls at your peril

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  546. PA, for feminism to take a root, it has to be established through the legal system. In EE there was the legal structure to establish equal pay for the same job regardless of gender. Given the the salaries differences were rather marginal for the working class (as opposed to ruling class that may not have swimmed in wads of cash — upper cadres income was about 15:1–but the perks available was a world of difference), it was relatively easy to do in an arbitrary system not related to market forces. It was, though, a gradual equalization, they did not want to get their females too haughty.

    The feminism was a brain-child of NKVD/KGB subversion program. As such it was understood by the ideologues to be a poison that was never allowed to take a root in their own region. It’s sole purpose was to demoralize and destabilize the Western society.

    Which, I am sorry to say, is a resounding success even after the original impetus and motivation is gone for 2 decades.

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  547. @Gorbachev:

    Almost all Korean women get plastic surgery to tighten their faces as most of them have round faces by nature. But that type of face is not considered attractive.

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  548. What I noticed about Korea and Japan:

    Korea has a very high baseline of female attractiveness; cities swim in 7’s – 8’s. Very few uggs or breathtaking beauties. I don’t think I saw one fattie the whole time I was there (many months)

    Japan had a much lower average baseline; the gawky/toothy look was ubiquitous. But the heights of beauty were unsurpassed, with a near-european round-eye look and extreme neotony on young adult females.

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  549. September 6, 2010 at 6:51 am Cyning

    It’s awfully true. Even Scandinavian countries with left/socialist-oriented government (esp. Sweden) never took it that far, always seemingly following their own models, albeit leading to effeminisation and nanny-stating. They never swallowed as much Marxist garbage on the whole though. I guess because English is more widely spoken, the UK became more of a hub for those intellectuals, I dunno.

    I suppose you could argue the UK is a hub because the USA is the dominant Western cultural power and we speak the same language – so we get so much American rubbish as well as our own rubbish and euro rubbish.

    We are the PeeCee dumping ground – maybe?

    I bet you before this shift, British women were on par with the rest of Europe. There’s got to be a reason why we have so many rat/dog-faced, porcine abominations marauding our streets these days.

    Hahaha, I was just having a bit of fun on Sunday.

    I understand facial attractiveness can be mathematically mapped.

    In all cultures, people with average faces, that is to say, average sized noses, average sized eyes in the average place, and so on are always considered the most attractive, the most beautiful.

    Similarly, there are ideal ratios for women’s vital statistics.

    So, the chances are, you will have proportionally just as many potentially attractive women in any ethnically comparable country.

    There will be proportionally just as many potentially attractive women in Ireland as in Britain as in France etc.

    It is entirely possible that for cultural reasons, French women might make more effort with their appearance, but I would have thought it very unlikely and improbable that French women would naturally have more average faces than British or Irish women, and I think it unlikely that if they all ate the same diet and did the same level of exercise, that there would be much difference between any of the national groups in body proportions.

    Combat Barbie (Miss England) looks fine to me:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225912/Combat-Barbie-Soldier-new-Miss-England-Linford-Christies-niece-hands-crown-nightclub-brawl.html

    But it’s complicated. Socialism became all the rage and people thought they were gonna get something for nothing, and then Thatcher came and said it wouldn’t be the case anymore (in the worst possible way mind) leading to a whole new generation of disaffection.

    The blatant idea is to turn us from the community-oriented, thrifty, long-term-considering people we were, into consumerist drones, thick enough to buy useless, overpriced shit. When you make society the means towards the individual, individuals have less incentive to do their bit for society.

    In fairness, shutting down our mines and fisheries, and sending our service industries to India, and our Manufacturing industries to China probably hasn’t helped much either.

    Nevertheless, I think we British are particularly suffering from some sort of moral or spiritual degradation, more so than our nearest neighbours.

    There is something particularly bad about Britain and I think it is a combination of factors, which don’t affect our neighbours so much. I doubt the French or Germans have the same class system/hatreds. The French and Germans have very strong protectionist tendencies whereas we are the home of neo-liberalism etc. And of course the PeeCee left Feminist type lunacy already mentioned. A number of things all coming together into a horrible perfect storm.

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  550. Lord Lucan, the factor you looking for is focus. The ideological subversion programs targeted mainly anglosphere (UK, US). That were main insertion points. You will also find most radical feminists in Sweden. That was not the target, but since English is de facto second language (almost everyone speaks it in Sweden), it got through the language channel and took the hold.

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  551. I agree and have wondered why Comunism in parts of Eastern Europe failed to produce matriarchal ghetto chavism

    It did – at least in the USSR. “Matriarchal ghetto chavism” is a very good description for the Russian/Ukrainian lower classes. The men get the women pregnant at age 19-20, piss off a few years later, and then the children end up being raised by mothers and grand-mothers with the occasional drunk abusive boyfriend spending a few years here and there. This is a very common pattern in Russia, and is part of the reason Russian women are so eager to leave. I always thought the Russian lower class culture – with its criminality, the peacock displays and thuggishness of the men, and the matter-of-fact attitude of women that sex is a commodity they can trade like anything else – is similar to American Black culture.

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  552. It did – at least in the USSR. “Matriarchal ghetto chavism” is a very good description for the Russian/Ukrainian lower classes.

    You’re probably right. I suspect this about Russia which is why I qualified my original comment. I’m just not that familiar with “points east.”

    I wondered if the Orthodox-Catholic divide might be a factor. This is MUCH less the case in PL, where single motherhood was very rare, at least to the best of my observation. Then again, abortions were common in commie Poland, in spite of which population grew from twenty-two to forty million since WW2. (Abortion has been illegal there since communism ended.)

    This is a very common pattern in Russia, and is part of the reason Russian women are so eager to leave.

    This fits with the genreal impression, which might be fading at this point, that they throw themselves at Western betas. The more ambitious ones at rich betas, that is.

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  553. “Even for black men to get into money and not have job they are not given the money unless they go on disability or some shit but that doesn’t come close to money the she recieves.”

    @gunslingergregi WTF are you on about.

    You like ome other twits on here know nothing about black men other than what the media portrays.
    The fact is white women are easy and not even worth gaming, they usually go black in some point in there lives.

    The amount of times I see cougar’s with there cubs in Starbucks looking for me to talk to them is embarrassing.

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  554. on September 7, 2010 at 6:01 pm gunslingergregi

    Talking about welfare state and woman making loot.

    But black dudes don’t get free money.

    Unles they earn it with disability or with same in military and go on disability.

    Although they do get free jobs.

    Yea the amount of black chicks coming to my door when the black chick I was with wasn’t there was kind of funny and that she was wanted to have my kid without wanting child support just for the gunz genes. he he he

    I will say she took care of me well and really put in some effort.

    Still didn’t see many white chick black dude pairing going on.

    Sounds like you got a good racket going though.

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  555. on September 7, 2010 at 6:04 pm gunslingergregi

    Really if I would have stayed in states I could have started making money impregnating black chicks lol

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  556. gorbachev

    you don’t sound like someone who has ever been immersed in japanese culture . your ideas about japanese sexuality reek of someone who has watched a little too much tentacle porn and determined that the culture MUST be sexually open. japan is almost certainly the most sexually repressed country in existence today.

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  557. I think Miss Surrey is kinda cute. Of course I’m only seeing a flat image on a 23″ computer screen.

    In real life who knows. I’ve seen plenty of fat girls with attractive features in person but it’s like looking at a big German sedan or any kind of nice but oversized home.

    Too much.

    And you Asian fetish guys are all the same. You hysterically over rate Asian women and then feel compelled to make ridiculous negative generalizations about White/Western women.

    To me Asian women are missing something and not just an ass.

    Some of you Asian lovers are real close to just being into boys.

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  558. @willard
    And white girls have ass?
    All of the negatives mentioned about white women are generally true, whether they have an asian fetish or not. They are whorish, and unfeminine. They have more sex partners then any other race and age very badly normally but since alot tan and drink they can get laugh lines/crows feet in their late 20s and early 30s instead of late 30s early 40s for other races

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  559. on September 7, 2010 at 2:08 pm Morsellaux

    Lord Lucan, the factor you looking for is focus. The ideological subversion programs targeted mainly anglosphere (UK, US). That were main insertion points.

    You make it sound like it a deliberate plan – to destroy Western Civilization perhaps?

    Rather than something that developed naturally and organically. Perhaps the evils of modern feminism would be inevitable in a Protestant Liberal environment?

    You will also find most radical feminists in Sweden. That was not the target, but since English is de facto second language (almost everyone speaks it in Sweden), it got through the language channel and took the hold.

    I have never been to Sweden, but I have occasionally read disturbing things related to Swedish feminism. One thing that comes to mind at the moment was something about Swedish boys being made to wear girls clothes at school.

    On the other hand, I understand that family law regarding access to children following the break up of marriage in Sweden is considerably better than in Britain – where although the law states otherwise, a mother can deny access to children by the father, forever, because the law is deliberately not enforced, and therefore worthless.

    I also understand that in Sweden, a parent cannot move to another country with the children (from the broken marriage) following the break up of marriage. And also custody of children in Sweden is a strict 50/50 split.

    If all of that is true, then Sweden looks like a paradise to me. As it is the family law issues that really get to me.

    I understand that the American fathers have it even worse than we do – which would make the USA a true paternal dystopia.

    You indicate that Swedish feminists are influenced by the English speaking world as almost everyone speaks it in Sweden. It is possible, maybe, that we in the West would not suffer from feminism as we know it if the global lingua franca was Japanese or even Italian. Even though I do not know much about Swedish history or culture, I know that Henrik Ibsen’s play ‘A Dolls House’ is considered the first ‘feminist’ play.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Doll%27s_House

    It was written in 1879. Ibsen is classed as Norwegian, but at that time Norway didn’t exist and was part of Sweden. This suggests to me that Sweden is perfectly capable of growing its own feminist lunacy and that the blame for Sweden’s crazy feminism cannot entirely be the fault of the English speaking world.

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  560. Lord Lucan, one play does not endow feminism. There is a Czech play with a similar theme from about the same period.

    Perhaps one can assume that the rise of feminism found a fertile ground in Scandinavia. Also, the KGB subversion programmers were looking for outliers to exploit, they weren’t pulling it out of thin air. It is hard to manufacture a social trend that is not in some form present. The goal of the program was to inject the outlier into the mainstream.

    And no, it is not the fault of the English speaking world. It was just a carrier wave. The modulation can be entirely blamed on KGB subversion experts and their “tools” that took care of the distribution of the poison.

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  561. this is wrong is many levels. as a Latin American who spent almost an year as an exchange student in the UK and lived with people from almost every country on Earth there, there is a elephant-syzed element in immigrants unhappiness that most gringos couldn´t ever think of.

    Most immigrants to the West come from societies much uglier than Westerners, societies that tend to be much more sexually conservative. So immigrants come to the West dreaming with, among other things, sexual liberation surrounded by girls way hotter than anything at home

    Forget all the bullshit written by many here, non-westerners themselves are unanimously in agreement that White Women are hot and non-white women are not. Every single non-Western, be him Chinese, Iranian, Indian, African or Latin American from the non-white lower classes knows that the ugliest among the White Race, as the British, offer infinitely more female beauty than non whites.

    Go to fucking Korea and seacr for the billboards there. Every add from every single “cool” brand necessarily features some Eastern European/Latin America model. Forget Gorbachev, Koreans themselves

    So immigrants are not only uglier, but tend to lack most of the social skills know as “game”. Closet-fags westerners idealyze about black game, but the overwhelmingly majority of Africans coming to the West arrive without any hint of it, an become instantly aware of their physical uglyness. That leads to unhappiness as sexual frustration becomes the norm

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  562. I dont´remember if I wrote it here or told someone, but Ribeirão Preto ( Brazilian city with some 600k people) has more hot girls than the entire country of Pakistan, and this is not a metaphor. And that more hot girls take the subway in Moscow everyday than are alive at any given moment in the entire Southeast Asia, whose population outnumbers Moscow´s 50 to 1.

    Unsurprisingly, as soon as any business in Southeast Asia or Pakistan is able to afford it without offending religious sensibilities, they will hire models born in the greater Moscow are, or in the surroundings of Ribeirão Preto.

    The more moonbatic neocon wing here, like Whiskey, HATE HATE HATE islam. They ignore how Islamic Law prevents Big Business from covering Pakistan with pics of semi-naked Latin American/Eastern European chicks thus leading the amount of sexual frustration there from reaching Big Bang levels.

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  563. Sweden is a feminine country rife with girl power, yes the women can be very liberal (depending on your background) but the stats show the country to have a high divorce rate.
    Personally, I feel there are hidden hands that are trying to bring down this “white” country. There is a high amount of rape which of course is blamed on the immigrants, which does not make sense to me seeing the women are “friendly”, could be due to the lack of prostitution.

    After my first visit there, my views on western women have changed completely. They (western) have no use and the high divorce rate should deter any sane man in these countries.

    Norway is also a great country with similar quality women and another place I would like to reside, if I had the means.

    Denmark seems to have gone overboard with the feminist movement and the men are pretty much castrated in that country.

    All these movements (isms) are done by design and to destroy the status quo.

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  564. “Forget all the bullshit written by many here, non-westerners themselves are unanimously in agreement that White Women are hot and non-white women are not. Every single non-Western, be him Chinese, Iranian, Indian, African or Latin American from the non-white lower classes knows that the ugliest among the White Race, as the British, offer infinitely more female beauty than non whites.

    Go to fucking Korea and seacr for the billboards there. Every add from every single “cool” brand necessarily features some Eastern European/Latin America model. Forget Gorbachev, Koreans themselves

    So immigrants are not only uglier, but tend to lack most of the social skills know as “game”. Closet-fags westerners idealyze about black game, but the overwhelmingly majority of Africans coming to the West arrive without any hint of it, an become instantly aware of their physical uglyness. That leads to unhappiness as sexual frustration becomes the norm”

    Strong statement!
    Have you been to the UK lately? Do you see how many “ugly” immigrants (africans) are impregnating your precious white women.!
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder!
    Most of the world is entranced with blonde peroxide hair and dark eyebrows, except me of couse.
    In this eurocentric world WE are constantly reinforced the idea of european beauty. This would explain the ads in Korea with models with western features, I knew a well educated korean girl who had the eye surgery and the funny thing is it took away from her beauty.
    Previous posters have talked about the Miss Universe/World pagents, are they frigging retarded. As if they are fair competitions, Venezuala has won it a few times and they are famous for plastic surgery.
    Another thing that cracks me up is the most beautiful people list (American thing), how does a fat pig like Sharon Osbourne make the list.?!!!

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  565. there is much more hype than fact in this white female/black male pairs. The UK remains overwhelmingly white outside London and even there the WF/BM couples are like elephants in India.

    Indians hugely outnumber elephants in the Subcontinent, but the eventual elephant you see catches your attention in a much stronger way than the multitude of Indians around it.

    End immigration right now and black physical features would be wiped out in a couple generations. It would probably improve female beauty in the UK to have 2% or 3% of black genes in the average white person.

    Black genes are like pepper in food, add a little and it work wonder. Add too much and destroy any meal. Firmness of skin, beter aging, more curves are all part of African genes. Add just a little of it, and even Russian women would improve, given their lack of curves and super-speed aging past 30.

    Add 25% of black genes to Estonia, and it would become another Venezuela: an upper crust of 25% of extremely beautiful women in the upper class and masses of ever uglier people below.

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  566. @PA: I agree and have wondered why Comunism in parts of Eastern Europe failed to produce matriarchal ghetto chavism

    This is your answer, thanks to Morsellaux:

    The ideological subversion programs targeted mainly anglosphere (UK, US). That were main insertion points. You will also find most radical feminists in Sweden. That was not the target, but since English is de facto second language (almost everyone speaks it in Sweden), it got through the language channel and took the hold.

    You should read Homo Americanus by Tomislav Sunic. I won’t offer a precis, but outright clear-as-day Communism was a hard form of totalitarianism that people knew that the powers were trying to crush traditions and way of life so they held onto them. In the West however, political correctness and culture/media/entertainment were the methods of subversion. If you reduce people to a neurotic, hedonistic, consumerist, androgynous stupor who’ll sneer at the notion of cultural standards (hence multiculturalism) they’ll be easier to control and less likely to mobilise by way of cultural unity and collective consciousness. To see all those Estonians singing in that earlier Chateau post is an example of former Soviet states’ cultural victory over Communism. Their current governments actually fund events like that, the same can’t be said in the UK, where governments and their quango tentacles would prefer some kind of “diversity” bullshit.

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  567. the mixture of (Southern-European) whites with Northeast Asians, with 50%-75% of the former and 25%-50% of the latter, tends to produce very hot girls. With delayed aging and firmer skin coming from the Asian side.

    With Northern Europeans it is more complicated. There are Nordic features that just don´t fit with Asian features. Blondness and “Asian” eyes are not beautiful at all, it actually looks freakish and almost repulsive.

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  568. @gig, don’t forget thicker lips and wavier hair. My grandmother is 1/2 Moor and she was quite striking.

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  569. I agree with gig. Most “real” latin women, like if you go to Peru, Honduras, Mexico etc are UGLY. The “hot” chicks like Shakira, Jessica Alba, hmm who else? Anyway, these chicks are mostly SOUTHERN EUROPEAN who HAPPEN to have been born south of the border. Maybe with a tiny bit of indigenous blood (but not usually). Argentina/Chile different story.

    I don’t get the whole “Latin chicks are hot” thing, although they are much better wives than most every other women.

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  570. ”””””Myt advice to Audacious E: make love when you can, because it is good. ””””’

    The asshole gets the sex out of way within minutes so he can then be kind. he he he

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  571. I don’t get the whole “Latin chicks are hot” thing, although they are much better wives than most every other women.

    I do. When people say “Latin chicks are hot” they, consciously or not, refer to 5/10% of the population of Mexico/Bolivia, 40% in Colombia/Venezuela, 50/55% in Brazil, 60/65% in CHile or +85% in ARgentina or Uruguay.

    When people say Eastern European chicks are hot, they are refering to 100% of Polish chicks, 100% of Estonian chicks, some 90% of Russian chicks and 100% of Ukrainian chicks.

    The original Mayans and Incas are probably the two ugliest races on Earth, with only aboriginals giving them some fight for the title.

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  572. Most men would benefit from living in a country where the average standard of beauty is relatively high such as places like Eastern Europe and Korea.

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  573. laura id be interested in your opinion of my blog entry today

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  574. When people say Eastern European chicks are hot, they are refering to 100% of Polish chicks, 100% of Estonian chicks, some 90% of Russian chicks and 100% of Ukrainian chicks.

    Slight exaggeration to say the least, not even 50% of these women are hot. Friends of mine raved about Ukraine and estimated 1 in 3 females is hot.
    I visited Hungary a few times last year and was not too impressed, the hookers on the streets were the nicest looking girls.
    Czech republic, Prague at least was great a couple of years ago. Czech women have beautiful eyes. I would try more rural countries like Bulgaria next time, americanization (fast food) quickly destroys cultures and that disease has runined the UK.

    In terms of black features being undesirable, why is it that white women feel the need to put collagen in there lips to make them bigger? Fry there skin under the sun, which is lacking melanonin and destroys there skin. The latest one is ass implants, what is that all about?
    Add botox and all the other procedures that are now available to them.

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  575. I did not say that 100% of Estonian chicks are hot. I said that 100% of the Estonian people are able to give birth to hot daughters. In Venezuela, that´s 40% of the population

    And for my tastes the hot girls Estonia is able to produce are no match for Venezuela´s, Eastern European girls are a notch below Latin American girls. This is the minority view here, but is my view anyway

    Obviously, you can´t compare averages since those would include LATAM´s huge masses of ugly people.

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  576. @nihonjin

    gorbachev

    you don’t sound like someone who has ever been immersed in japanese culture . your ideas about japanese sexuality reek of someone who has watched a little too much tentacle porn and determined that the culture MUST be sexually open. japan is almost certainly the most sexually repressed country in existence today.

    Um, … my experience in Japan is limited, I only lived there 4 months and was with a few Japanese women.

    But the freakiest sex I ever had was with a Japanese woman. And I was very interested in the stories other men told me.

    I spent time in Korea and China, too; Japan was easily the easiest country for a Western man to meet attractive women and have sex. Without comparison.

    One thing I consistently noticed: The people are more matter-of-fact and much less prone to ascribe anything to sexual encounters than other Asians. And 20-28 year-old women are most likely to not care if you’re 5-10 years older than they are in Japan.

    That said, the *men* in Japan were topics of wide discussion among females. A goodly portion of Japanese women 23-33 I knew were single. At least as high as here. Marriage seems to have gone out of fashion.

    Bear in mind I was in Tokyo and I’m told Tokyo is wildly different from the rest of the country.

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  577. Morsellaux

    Go on then, I am intrigued. Where do you get this feminism as a tool of KGB to undermine the west stuff from?

    I can imagine a good James Bond film from the sixties with Sean Connery as Bond where he converts gorgeous female Russian KGB agents from their devious plan to subvert the West by the sheer force of his ubermachismo.

    Turning them from hardened eevil feminists into purring submissive sex kittens.

    Did you know that the author of the James Bond books, Ian Fleming, was actually a retired British spy, and that the character James Bond was based upon was a real spy that Ian Fleming had known?

    Did you know that, for example, that Bond bad guy Goldfinger’s fictional raid on Fort Knox was inspired by a real plan (never carried out) to steal $2,883,000,000 in Vichy French gold reserves from the French Caribbean colony of Martinique.

    Why didn’t Ian Fleming write the James-Bond-defeats-the-forces-of-KGB-directed-feminism-book, because I am telling you, as I imagine it, that would have been a fantastic Bond film?

    Perhaps because it is just too outlandish?

    Or perhaps not. You tell me?

    I am genuinely interested.

    I think I may have heard of feminism and other aspects of the modern PeeCee world as a Soviet plot, but I cannot remember from where.

    I understand that the British Intelligence Services suspected British Prime Minister Harold Wilson of being a KGB agent, and that they even destabilised his Government because of this. But from what little I have read of this, my impression is that actually our spys were paranoid, rather than the country was full of traitors.

    So, please do tell.

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  578. @ gunslingergregi

    Turkish chicks are hot, especially if, like me, you like petite brunettes. I spent two weeks there in the 90s, a good deal of it drooling.

    Not sure how it is now that the country has gotten more Islamic. I assume more of them are covering up, and therefore probably not keeping up with their appearance as much.

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  579. I’ve seen a large number of articles, blog posts, etc. over the years where a regular American guy goes to Asia and falls head over heels for practically the first girl he chats with, even if she is a bar skank. It is such a rarity for the guys to experience a woman who is actually friendly that they can’t stop themselves even when they should.

    I’m unaware of any Asian guys pointing at American women and saying “these chicks are awesome.”

    Anecdotal evidence that, as far as girls go, Asian > American.

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  580. No chip on shoulder not all fucked up by tv is probably what it is cptnapalm.

    They are just woman and they like being woman and they like fucking and like men.

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  581. And not the same divorce regime in place.

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  582. @cptnapalm


    Anecdotal evidence that, as far as girls go, Asian > American.

    Of course. No real debate about this.

    There are still dent girls here. You just have to compete for them. Or share them.

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  583. Why you must steal them away lest they become ruined.

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  584. “Have you seen Brit chicks lately? Fuggin fat, pasty, unfeminine, alcoholic tubs.”

    A lot of Brits – upwards of 25% in the urban/suburban areas – have some Jewish ancestry. Thus many Brits are mixed. There is also the basic British mixture of Celtic, Mediterranean, and all kinds of other groups.

    NOTE: neither the Brits nor the Jews have never been known for their beauty.

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  585. Gorbachev knows a lot and has experienced a good bit but he also exaggerates HUGELY and his judgment is VERY tilted by his emotions.

    E.g. he had a great and in some ways transformative time in Korea with probably mostly 7s and 6s but some 8s who gave it up quickly once he learned enough about how to do the sneak tip sex fling there with Korean girls intent on maintain good girl face to get (or stay) married. So he lionized Korean girls up the ying yang.

    Similarly other places.

    Not that objective.

    Also he’s in the midst of reconciling his realist learning with his immensely left/liberal peers and surroundings, by and large. And similarly his earlier views.

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  586. @Eman
    A lot of Brits – upwards of 25% in the urban/suburban areas – have some Jewish ancestry. Thus many Brits are mixed. There is also the basic British mixture of Celtic, Mediterranean, and all kinds of other groups.

    There are people around here who don’t like hearing how mixed with Jews the Brits are. Jews had a unique situation in the UK and really miscegenated it up.

    Lots of folk ’round here have it in for the Jewy types.

    NOTE: neither the Brits nor the Jews have never been known for their beauty.

    This is actually untrue.

    The Roman classical authors wrote of the tall, strapping red-haired beauties and alpha male types out of Britain. Those Britons were famous for being ornery, cussing and violent, and hot like hot potatoes. But nice and subdued once you taught them civilization.

    They had a few female leaders, too. They wielded swords and liked to butcher their enemies. An interesting place ca. 50 BC.

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  587. @Doug1

    I do believe you have a bone to pick. This goes out to you.

    Gorbachev knows a lot and has experienced a good bit but he also exaggerates HUGELY and his judgment is VERY tilted by his emotions.

    Yeah, I can’t deny it. You should see the smashed furniture and the holes in the drywall.

    E.g. he had a great and in some ways transformative time in Korea with probably mostly 7s and 6s but some 8s

    Dude, there was a 9 or two in there, too, solid 9s. Hard to keep those 9s when you’re not Korean, alas. Some asian guys would have said 10. In their dreams.

    who gave it up quickly once he learned enough about how to do the sneak tip sex fling there with Korean girls intent on maintain good girl face to get (or stay) married. So he lionized Korean girls up the ying yang.

    Doug, Doug,

    All the white guys lionized the Korean girls. Few white guys I knew ever wanted to leave. Same about Japan and China, for that matter. If the guys had some game, you had to claw them away at the airport.

    Similarly other places.

    I’m not that hoorah about France or Germany. In Germany you need tight, hard game to get the hot ones who aren’t disgusting drug-addled smokers. In France you need more game than here, but it comes with much greater prizes. Also many more complications.

    Go there, find out. Nice country. Sonorant language. Slips ever so gently off the tongue.

    Not that objective.

    I am always, ever and absolutely objective and never exaggerate under any circumstances ever! *Ever*!

    Also he’s in the midst of reconciling his realist learning with his immensely left/liberal peers and surroundings, by and large. And similarly his earlier views.

    It’s like being surrounded by a bunch of killer rabbits.

    Remember the scene from the 1979 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers?

    At the end, when Donald Sutherland points at the female, and makes that unearthly hissing noise? And she runs away screaming, knowing the entire population has been converted to pod people and she’s going to be tied down and tortured?

    It’s like that every day. Every damned day, surrounded and having to smile wanly and pretend. And then ask yourself questions like, … I wonder if those are inserts or plastic or real? When the intern walks by.

    So Doug, now that you pegged me, you know I have to kill you.

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  588. @Gorbachev
    @Doug1

    “So Doug, now that you pegged me, you know I have to kill you.”

    Boys WILL be boys!! lol!!! cute, too cute! lol!!!

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  589. — And for my tastes the hot girls Estonia is able to produce are no match for Venezuela´s, Eastern European girls are a notch below Latin American girls. This is the minority view here, but is my view anyway

    That’s a fair view, and really there is much less difference between a Spaniard-Portugiese-descent Latina and an Estonian that you’d think. Both are within the relatively narrow parameters of the European look we both find most appealing.

    If I were to list “my type”, the list would include both creamy-blonde Estonian girls, and a young Penelope Cruz.

    — Why didn’t Ian Fleming write the James-Bond-defeats-the-forces-of-KGB-directed-feminism-book

    Morsellaux gives too much credit to KGB/NKVD. They were not responsible for Western feminism because any Russian achievement that requires a coordinated effort is accomplished by brute force.

    You want to know the real origins of feminism? Look at the patriotic “conservative” American CEOs, chamber of commerce types, bankers, captains of industry. They co-opted feminism, a fringe lesbian liberation movement, to bring women into the workforce and depress the value of labor. Doing so, they also amped up women’s consumer spending.

    But they could not have done it alone. Left wing politicians, media and elite universities were their fellow travellers and propagandists, whose long-term goal of consolidating government power by breaking up kin structures and driving society toward socialism aligned with capitalist’s short-term goals. Feminism also doubled the number of humans that can be taxed: you can’t tax a home maker, but you can tax a career woman.

    — All the white guys lionized the Korean girls. Few white guys I knew ever wanted to leave.

    For what it’s worth, I genreally found Korean girls attractive during my serveral-months’ stay there. But toward the end, I started feeling a sensory deprivation-like state where I really needed to see white women.

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  590. Eman and Gorbachev

    A lot of Brits – upwards of 25% in the urban/suburban areas – have some Jewish ancestry. Thus many Brits are mixed. There is also the basic British mixture of Celtic, Mediterranean, and all kinds of other groups.

    Have you got a link for that mate?

    Here, I’ve got some:

    http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-europa.html

    DNA map of the UK as part of the European whole. You will note that East and South East England are the same tribe as the Dutch, the Flemish and the NW Germans.

    The rest of the British Isles are called Celtic. Actually the ‘Celts’ didn’t have a written language and the Romans never called them Celts.

    I understand other studies have shown this ‘Celtic’ group to be closely related to the people from the Iberian peninsular – thats the people who threw out the moors and conquered the Inca and Aztec empires with just a handful of men.

    Regarding the Jews in Britain, its true that our aristocracy can be a bit mixed in this way, but that would be very recently.

    But if you look at that DNA map, it doesn’t place any significant number anywhere near the British Isles.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_England

    If you read the above link, you will notice that there were a very small number of Jews in England about a 1000 years ago and they were expelled from England in 1230.

    Cromwell let Jews back in because he needed the money. There was a very small Jewish community recorded in London in 1680.

    In the 19th Century there was some Jewish Immigration from Eastern Europe, many of which subsequently moved on to the USA and what is now Israel.

    There are approx 300,000 Jews in Britain, which out of a total population of 60M, amounts to…not very much.

    No, doubt soon there will be a comment claiming that the reason the British are ugly is because we are alien lizard men.

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  591. How many of you have ever spoken to a real Estonian girl?

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  592. It seems Roissy has a fan of sorts at the BBC, guys. The third most popular article on the BBC (maybe it will get to no. 1) sez things such as: “This [fashion] show is a validation of the 62% of American women who are plus size,” says Nancy. ” See, “real women” are land whales. The average American woman has a BMI of something like 28, and therefore, it is “real” and desiring anything else is abnormal. So speaketh the female id.

    Interesting timing, and don’t try to tell me this article of Roissy’s hasn’t gotten around, with its 600 damn replies, possibly to the BBC. Are the pro-feminist schleps at the BBC launching a counterattack of sorts? It seems to be working as a soothing balm for the 62% of fatcraps that infest our shores, if the popularity of that article is anything to go by. Observe here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11240617

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  593. “This suggests to me that Sweden is perfectly capable of growing its own feminist lunacy and that the blame for Sweden’s crazy feminism cannot entirely be the fault of the English speaking world.”

    You are absolutely right. Female friendliness is deeply ingrained in the Swedish culture and historically women have held relatively high status there, even before institutionalized feminism. It’s just deeply rooted in the culture. Gender is viewed differently than in the Anglo world. They have a more practical and down to earth attitude towards gender. Sweden is in fact the best place for a woman to live. And for a modern man too.

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  594. Skadi–

    So which of the tree Baltic states are you from?

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  595. *three

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  596. Gorbachev—

    So Doug, now that you pegged me, you know I have to kill you.

    You know I like you.

    I see my own evolution at an earlier stage in you to a degree.

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  597. Doug, Latvia. But I’ve spent a lot of time in Estonia and Lithuania too. Where are you from?

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  598. Skadi–

    Manhattan, NYC.

    Been to Stockholm a number of times and had tons of fun. Never to one of the Baltics though.

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  599. Oh, I love it there (have only been there for a couple of days), Manhattan is really, really nice. Yea, I go to Sthm quite a bit, it’s only one hour.

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  600. “This suggests to me that Sweden is perfectly capable of growing its own feminist lunacy and that the blame for Sweden’s crazy feminism cannot entirely be the fault of the English speaking world.”

    imo Every prosperous group will face the same feminist lunacy in the times of peace. Because men who are at the bottom are scrapped off, women at the bottom are left to spit venom. and then even average women who are spurned. or with daddy issues. or who were sexually assaulted and are suffering for a lifetime.

    “It’s just deeply rooted in the culture. Gender is viewed differently than in the Anglo world. They have a more practical and down to earth attitude towards gender.”

    “Sweden is in fact the best place for a woman to live. And for a modern man too.”

    bwahahaha modern man, yes that’s right. the modern man lives in Sweden and he’s happy. what about the modern woman btw skadi?

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  601. Actually, most Swedish men are happy in that female friendly country. And, yes, it’s the best place for modern women, that’s what I meant. You get helpful and respectful men.

    [Ed: Not for long. Heheheh. Your matriarchal culture is allowing the hordes of Saracen to invade.]

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  602. “Actually, most Swedish men are happy in that female friendly country.”

    I agree, they at least get to keep their balls. But for how long?

    http://old.nationalreview.com/kurtz/kurtz200602220826.asp

    http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/04/confessions-of-ex-feminist.html

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  603. [Ed: Not for long. Heheheh. Your matriarchal culture is allowing the hordes of Saracen to invade.]

    Interestngly, Skaldi is reasonably race-realist and something of a Scandinavian patriot, judging by her comments at LR’s blog. If her kind is smart enough to understand that feminism makes the greater society vulnerable to non-feminist interlopers, they’ll be OK.

    She’s kind of the opposite of Biki, another eastern- european-born Sweden resident. That one is not a feminist, but very sentimental of saracen hordes.

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  604. CR & PA,
    Does feminism and a matriarchal culture allow hordes of other people to invade because it restrains men from being as territorial as they naturally are? Is that the reason?

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  605. PA, I don’t view Northern women’s independence as a product of feminism. It is simply natural and an intrinsic part of that culture, I would even try to defend that point from a racialist perspective.

    [Ed: Swedish men are not as happy as you claim. They are culturally neutered and they pay a lot in taxes to sustain the matriarchy. It is unsustainable.]

    It is feminism, but greed that is ruining the Western countries.

    [No, it is feminism that is partly responsible for the decline of the West. Greed is a constant that exists in poor and wealthy societies.]

    Even far right political agendas in Scandinavia acknowledge gender equality. Immigration is a separate issue, it is the only eye sore.

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  606. Skadi, explain this “gender equality”. What does it mean?

    When I hear of equality (and when people are using that term, they almost without exception invariably mean outcomes, not opportunities), I always remember that there are some people that are more equal than others.

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  607. feminism is natural? lol
    women independence is men’s imprisonment.

    It is feminism, but greed that is ruining the Western countries.

    heh, but it’s making sure that the ruins will smolder far longer once the show falls apart.

    “Even far right political agendas in Scandinavia acknowledge gender equality.”

    there is left and then there are left-overs. and gender equality is such a contradiction in terms that it should rank highest in the list of orwellians.

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  608. Skadi, what does the “gender equality” mean to you?

    Whenever I hear of equality, I always remember that there are some people more equal than others.

    There was never any equality and by that I mean equality of outcomes, because that is what this term represents these days, not equality of opportunity.

    Even between identical twins, and I should know that first hand as I am one of them, there is a clear delineation of roles. They may switch from time to time, but it is natural that the roles are assumed as twins essentially work as a unit for most of their social interaction before adolescence splits them apart (and sometimes even not then) and it is a most efficient way of interacting with the “outside” to make tacit rules about “division of labor”.

    I’ve never ever seen successful couples where one was not leading and the other following. Not all the time but in general, with a tacit deference. And the truly stable couples were the only ones where the man got the leading role.

    The couples where roles weren’t delineated either squabbled or they engaged in passive-aggressive stratagems and in both cases they inevitably fell apart.

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  609. And, Mors, yes, you are right. Some people are definitely more equal than others. Those big corporate guys that were too big to fail and got bailed out are certainly more “equal” than you and I.

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  610. Santa Clara County Library

    I’m going to shit myself if Cannon and Firepower are actually two different people.

    i’m not really into that kind of scat stuff, but I’m sure there’s plenty of manuals, periodicals and novels in your publicly funded workspace to keep you sated – check the children’s section.

    pm me, if you’re hot

    luv
    F

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  611. […] – “Brits Voted Ugliest Women in the World“, “Dancing as a Demonstration of High Value“, “Tough Times are a Bounty for […]

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  612. Gig said:

    “this is wrong is many levels. as a Latin American who spent almost an year as an exchange student in the UK and lived with people from almost every country on Earth there, there is a elephant-syzed element in immigrants unhappiness that most gringos couldn´t ever think of.”

    Gig told the truth with his series of posts, and I see it all the time in my own life. White people (not just the women) are considered the most attractive people in the world by everyone. I honestly believe that you need white blood admixture to be considered attractive, and that minorities hate white people because of this, they know that they are ugly. Sure, alot of white women may be fat and bitchy and the men may be unmasculine, but that’s only because of poor diet/lack of exercise/chemicals in the food and water, etc. You can’t change ugly features with diet.

    Case in point, there are quite a bit of Africans around here, fresh of the boat monkey looking West Africans and East African ones. When the women see me, their eyes light up like I’m a god to them or something. The children prefer me to their own parents because I’m better looking than them, I look like a black white person as they tell me. Even some Central and South American women are like this toward me. But if you look at the men they have to choose from, they are all ugly.

    Because of what I have seen, I honestly think we need to enforce immigration on looks, because we have way too many ugly people here who are resentful because they know that they are ugly so they tear up shit. C’mon, why do you think black guys rape white people so much? Why do you have people throwing acid in white women’s faces?

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  613. @Lord Lucan
    Go on then, I am intrigued. Where do you get this feminism as a tool of KGB to undermine the west stuff from?

    I can imagine a good James Bond film from the sixties with Sean Connery as Bond where he converts gorgeous female Russian KGB agents from their devious plan to subvert the West by the sheer force of his ubermachismo.

    Turning them from hardened eevil feminists into purring submissive sex kittens.

    Did you know that the author of the James Bond books, Ian Fleming, was actually a retired British spy, and that the character James Bond was based upon was a real spy that Ian Fleming had known?

    Did you know that, for example, that Bond bad guy Goldfinger’s fictional raid on Fort Knox was inspired by a real plan (never carried out) to steal $2,883,000,000 in Vichy French gold reserves from the French Caribbean colony of Martinique.

    Why didn’t Ian Fleming write the James-Bond-defeats-the-forces-of-KGB-directed-feminism-book, because I am telling you, as I imagine it, that would have been a fantastic Bond film?

    Perhaps because it is just too outlandish?

    Or perhaps not. You tell me?

    I am genuinely interested.

    I think I may have heard of feminism and other aspects of the modern PeeCee world as a Soviet plot, but I cannot remember from where.

    I understand that the British Intelligence Services suspected British Prime Minister Harold Wilson of being a KGB agent, and that they even destabilised his Government because of this. But from what little I have read of this, my impression is that actually our spys were paranoid, rather than the country was full of traitors.

    So, please do tell.

    Why don’t you start here:

    http://www.savethemales.ca

    and see where that gets you (all conspiracies are connected and led by a amall number of jewish gansgsters/magicians).
    You can also check:

    http://www.greghallett.com/

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  614. @Cee you are a complete imbecile to say the least.

    Your views are based on stereotypes that you heavily buy into, there are ugly and attractive people in every race including African, Central and South America.

    You cannot seriously think all white people are attractive!!
    Are you that much brainwashed by Western media or in your case European (UK) media. It is laughable that you think bad diet and exercise would make all white people attractive. Could that not be said for other races including your own latin american race.

    Why do white women feel the need to tan and burn there skin when they go on holiday.?
    Why do so many of them get plastic surgery – from chest implants to butt implants? Furthermore, they are getting botox for there lips and to fill in spaces in there face.
    Finding a white women who does not have cottage cheese on her arse is rare, you have to look under age 25 and even then you still see it.
    Once they hit age 30 they are done, crow’s feet and wrinkles and lines on there face like a road map. Look at Rod Stewart he trades his wives in every few years.

    A few isolated cases of women getting acid on there faces does not make it the norm, does more than a few cases of paedophilla make it the norm for white people?
    There is no need to rape a white woman they are more than willing to have sex with almost anyone, your time in the UK should tell you that. Man, just look online and you will see them having sex with animals.

    My friend, I date white girls because they are easy and I would not even call it gaming. All your monkey insults make me laugh because I have had some of “your” women and they tell me the latin lover thing is a myth.

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  615. Cee does have a point. If there is a big disparity in looks between one group of women and another group there is bound to be intense jealousy.

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  616. Let’s see how this goes, my first internet debate.

    Chris said:

    “@Cee you are a complete imbecile to say the least.

    Don’t call me names. Be nice.

    “Your views are based on stereotypes that you heavily buy into, there are ugly and attractive people in every race including African, Central and South America.”

    Your statement is correct, but how many women in these places are hot and how hot are they compared to a hot white girl? I have known plenty of men from these places and they will tell you white girls are the best looking. The women from these places even try as they may to look like white girls.

    “You cannot seriously think all white people are attractive!!”

    They have the best facial features. Hell, there are a ton of ugly white women but and ugly white woman look better than an ugly minority woman. Ask around.

    “Are you that much brainwashed by Western media or in your case European (UK) media.”

    I go by what I’ve seen in real life, and I don’t pay attention to the media. In real life, white people are considered the most attractive, people don’t want to admit it because the truth sucks. I live in America, not the UK.

    “It is laughable that you think bad diet and exercise would make all white people attractive. Could that not be said for other races including your own latin american race.”

    Bad diet makes people unattractive. If that girl in the top picture got in shape, she would look attractive because of her features, and she looks like she has average looks for a white girl. HBD applies to more than just IQ, some races on average are better looking than others. I’m not Latin, I’m Black. Please read more carefully.

    “Why do white women feel the need to tan and burn there skin when they go on holiday.?
    Why do so many of them get plastic surgery – from chest implants to butt implants? Furthermore, they are getting botox for there lips and to fill in spaces in there face.”

    Because darker skin, big butts, and fuller lips look hot, it’s all the other black features that are busted that people don’t want. Black people have the best body structure when they are in shape, but unless they have white admixture, everything from the neck up is fucked. I’m black but I don’t have a monkey head or monkey face, so I can say what I say.

    “Finding a white women who does not have cottage cheese on her arse is rare, you have to look under age 25 and even then you still see it.
    Once they hit age 30 they are done, crow’s feet and wrinkles and lines on there face like a road map. Look at Rod Stewart he trades his wives in every few years.”

    Stop looking at cougars.

    “A few isolated cases of women getting acid on there faces does not make it the norm, does more than a few cases of paedophilla make it the norm for white people?”

    White people get hate for their looks, acid on the face was an extreme example, but I am extreme sometimes. But I bet you it has happened more than anyone knows.

    “There is no need to rape a white woman they are more than willing to have sex with almost anyone, your time in the UK should tell you that. Man, just look online and you will see them having sex with animals.”

    Porn isn’t real life. I don’t live in the UK, I live in America. But that’s on me, I didn’t mention where I live.

    “My friend, I date white girls because they are easy and I would not even call it gaming. All your monkey insults make me laugh because I have had some of “your” women and they tell me the latin lover thing is a myth.”

    White girls seem easy because white people are nice by nature and some are liberals (I hate liberals). Black people do look like monkeys, have a look around. Once again, I’m not Latin, I’m Black. I really must of struck a nerve.

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  617. Actually Cee, interracial people are the best looking. Check out “Breeding Between the Lines” by Alon Ziv. There is a ton of research out there about how much better looking, smelling, tasting, interracial people are compared to more “pure” people. Interracial men have MHCs (major histocombatibility complexes) that are more appealing to women (aka, the smell better). Interracial women have features that are consistently rated as most attractive by men. White women descended from Europeans are some of the most genetically diverse people… but hispanic women are even more genetically diverse than them.

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  618. The future is brown.

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  619. Science said:

    “There is a ton of research out there about how much better looking, smelling, tasting, interracial people are compared to more “pure” people.”

    That isn’t 100% true. I know because most of the people in my family have high white admixture, and the people on my grandfather’s side have way more than we do, and not all of them are good looking, some of them look like freaks. They have average black features with damn near white skin. It’s not pretty.

    “Interracial men have MHCs (major histocombatibility complexes) that are more appealing to women (aka, the smell better).”

    I’ve been told this by women. But I think it’s because all of the races smell differently to each other. That’s why white people say black people smell like shit and black people smell like wet dogs, etc.

    “The future is brown.”

    We are fucked.

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  620. Cee, purdy good for a first one.

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  621. Cee… black people don’t smell like shit, they smell like banana boat suntan lotion.

    But the MHC thing is pretty established.

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  622. “The future is brown.”

    No, it isn’t. I’ve seen the future a few days ago. It was tall, light skinned, straight blonde hair, large blue eyes and just a hint of epicanthic fold. Saw him on Skytrain and were looking to gauge reactions of ladies. All their eyes were fixed on him, young, not so young and not so not so young..

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  623. One more thing… Europe had the most number of haplogroups interacting fairly recently in their genetic history, which is why whites can look so different from whites and asians and blacks from africa basically all look similar. Rome pushed up, vandals pushed back, muslims from north africa pushed up, etc etc. I’d bet that the hottest Euro girls live in areas that saw the most pushing.

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  624. But the MHC thing is pretty established.

    Actually, not so. What has been established that a substantial genome distance does play a role in women’s selection–they go for a large spread, but not that far as to cross the racial boundaries–subject to bell curve statistical envelope.

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  625. @ Morsellaux – the Bell curve is one of those bullshit theories made up by eugencist’s like Darwin and his crew.

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  626. um “the bell curve is a bullshit theory”? can you flesh that thought out a little bit?

    are you saying statisitcal bell curve distributions are bullshit?

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  627. Chris,

    I meant when the research results were plotted, they formed a bell curve. It has nothing to do with one theory or another, but with a statistical distribution–it’s math. Whether eugenic Darwinists misused the statistical methodology to support their ideas is entirely another debate.

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  628. Wow… chris… you crammed in so many misunderstandings into such a small comment. that was awesome.

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  629. @ Cee

    I am not into watching women sleeping with animals therefore i do not base my information on porn movies.

    I have dated white women most of my life because it is easy, maybe that is what brings me to this blog. I have lived in the UK for the last few years and decided to return to Canada. Dating here sucks because the women are fat, old and ugly feel entitled.

    Living in the UK, allowed me to travel to Eastern Europe and Scandinavia where it was by no means hard to find a date.

    Are you familiar with the Jena six case? What are your thoughts on that? What about the Emmett Till story?

    Dude you did not strike any nerve in me, I am very confident black man and it is easy for all these people to hide behind there insults. Because they would never say it to my face in person.

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  630. Science, Chris isn’t alone. 😉

    A while ago, I were working on an online statistical package and were involved on a support side. The depth of college kids’ knowledge blew my mind. Or better say the lack of depth, to avoid misunderstandings. 😉

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  631. @ Morsellaux

    When you meant Bell Curve, I thought you were referring to the book by Herrinstein and Murray. I did not realize you meant the general Bell Curve theory.

    I am sure you are familiar with the piece of reading.

    College kids are not very smart these days, I believe it is called the dumbing down theory.

    Ever seen a grade 8 test from 100 years ago?

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  632. Cee, you are comparing story from 1941 with one from 2006?

    That would really fly.

    But what does it have to do with the topic about where the ugliest/purdiest women are? Absolutely nothing.

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  633. Science, yea, your “brown” future.

    See, from the history, I got an impression that linear extrapolations are not so well representative of reality. Chain of events may take unexpected turns in the near future.

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  634. Saying the Murray book is BS is typical leftwing “wishes=reality” thinking.

    The point of the book wasn’t nefarious, it was pointing out that more money should be spent on us top tier types instead of throwing money away on special ed because there’s a diminishing returns curve at play too.

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  635. >Dude you did not strike any nerve in me, I am very confident black man and it is easy for all these people to hide behind there insults. Because they would never say it to my face in person.

    I think you’re proud of this for the wrong reason.

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  636. Morsellaux
    In America at least, there is a runaway hispanic population. It can’t be stopped at this point. By 2050, when europe’s and china’s population will be actually decreasing… the USs population will still be blowing up, since we’re the only first world country getting more fertile… all because of hispanics. 30% of the US will self identify as hispanic by 2050, and less than half of the populaton will identify as “white”… and those remaining whites will not be the same as the whites of today. I predict blue eyes will be all but gone and a significant minority of the white population in 2050 will have some hispanic genes.

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  637. chris what exactly in the murray herrenstein book is false, specifically?

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  638. Chris said:

    “What about the Emmett Till story?”

    Man, c’mon. That’s not even relevant anymore.

    “Are you familiar with the Jena six case? What are your thoughts on that?”

    I honestly don’t care.

    “I am not into watching women sleeping with animals therefore i do not base my information on porn movies.”

    But how do you know they have sex with animals?

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  639. Science, remember my quip about linear interpolations?

    Say, there is a crash, a big bada boom and the depression gets a full play. 6-10 shitty years. And I mean really really shitty. It is not a question of “if”, it is a question of “when”. Sooner than you think.

    What you think would happen with hispanics when TSWHTF? I don’t mean these legal ones, especially past 1st generation.
    When the entitlements are gone, the rest would seek their tribe–their large family that can provide mutual support. Will they rather face the grinding poverty alone, or with their large families that may be, to some degree, able to mitigate it?

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  640. Meant: Chris, you are comparing story from 1941 with one from 2006?

    Apology to Cee.

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  641. True that, the lib’s dream of repopulating the US with a more pliant and, ah, credulous population conflicts with their time tested pattern of destroying our economy. A lot of FOB’s will be shipping back home. Attrition. of course, we could just give SoCal back to Mexico, let Michigan secede (more like force them out) and be done with it.

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  642. Anonymous

    @Lord Lucan
    Go on then, I am intrigued. Where do you get this feminism as a tool of KGB to undermine the west stuff from?

    You can go on youtube and search for Bezmenov. I am not sure if he mentions feminism specifically, but it is implied.

    Also, my father was a high ranking officer of CZ counterintelligence during 1960. Right after 1968 invasion, he brought home a lot of material, for us to study. It was full of chocks. Beside the current stuff, the materials contained a lot of element of general policies and directives from CPSU Politburo how to implement these policies as it was concerned to parties within the Eastern Block. Beside domestic sphere, there was a segment about foreign policies and specifically about aspects of destabilization and demoralization of western societies. Feminism figured there prominently amongst other tools, like homosexual rights, affirmative actions for minorities, etc. The main thrust (that has been already established by Frankfurt School under KGB directives, and even earlier via Gramsci through NKVD program), was to break down the nuclear family, which was the core element and a backbone of the western society.

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  643. on September 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm Gunslingergregi

    Morsellaux

    That would make sense.

    So I suppose you helped make the crank movies to try to pump people up and then show the scene in crank ii where he was kissing asian chick but dreamed it was a white woman.

    Actually there were so many juicy tidbits in there he he he

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  644. on September 12, 2010 at 5:45 pm Gunslingergregi

    Course the reality was (in the movie) the asian chick was there for him.

    Reality in life is asian chicks bodies match pretty dam well to hot white chicks.

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  645. on September 12, 2010 at 6:05 pm Gunslingergregi

    ””’destabilization and demoralization of western societies””””

    Well yea it worked on me.

    Went from being on the path to success even though poor to after dads divorce being demoralized and not wanting to create a life that after 25 years could be destroyed because of a womans whim.

    So yea I could have went to college and maybe learned something and maybe used the resources available at the better business bureau or whatever and I could of networked and been a member of the community but it didn’t make any logical sense to do so. It made logical sense to find a way to die sooner rather than later just to not have to put up with all the bullshit.

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  646. on September 12, 2010 at 6:17 pm Gunslingergregi

    They used a asian chick with a boys body on purpose and the clothing of course as well.

    he he he

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  647. Science–

    In America at least, there is a runaway hispanic population. It can’t be stopped at this point.

    Sure it can be.

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  648. Cee, all I have to say to you is:

    What gets showed to the west as “African beauty” isn’t what Africans actually like to look at. The only thing men can be said to like outside of the objective is variety. The perfect prototype doesn’t exist, but there’s plenty of room for lots of glorious “imperfection”.

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  649. Cee,
    You have a refreshing lack of racial hangups. Good for you.
    Chris,
    Why are you so interested in race relations in the United States if you don’t even live here?

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  650. …and for those who like it even less multicultural:

    Notice the absense of manjaw. These are women whose faces and bodies look female.