Nothing Compares 2 The Wall

So sad, so tragic, the inevitable slide into sexual worthlessness that accompanies women, the withering tick tock of the cosmic clock stripping their beauty in flayed bits of soulletting mignons like psychological ling chi. A sadistic thief in the night etching, billowing, draping and sagging a new affront to her most preciously guarded asset. The comfort of her children, if she has them, acting as meager respite from the awful realization that she has been sucked dry of her whimsy and power.

But enough of that merriment. Sinead O’Connor, the Irish singer who ripped up a picture of the Pope and sweetly sang a remake of a Prince ballad, and who was, not so long ago despite the shock of her change in appearance, cute enough to bang even with her boyishly short hairstyle, has hit the wall hard enough to cause even Wile E. Coyote to wince in pain. The evidence:

Then:

And now (20 years later):

Pixie? No. Not anymore. BIXIE.

Some of you tenderhearted sorts might be tempted to ask why I am torturing a poor woman who has to endure pain enough ensconced in her deteriorating shell. Steady on, bugle boys. I might have a sadistic streak, but I don’t select my targets without some justification which makes the torture that much more pleasurable to inflict. Good old Sinead, fat and unhappy, has an internet blog, of all things!, wherein she laments her lack of a sex life and basically puts out a personal ad for a man to come rescue her from her celibate dreariness. The incomprehensible catch? She makes a list of demands for the type of man she wants.

Complaining of a lack of intimacy in recent times, O’Connor writes on her blog: “My shit-uation sexually/affectionately speaking is so dire that inanimate objects are starting to look good as are inappropriate and/or unavailable men and/or inappropriate and/or unavailable fruits and vegetables. I tell you yams are looking like the winners.”

“Needless to say what I do for a living makes it hard for me to find men that only want me cuz they like my (legendary) arse. Yet I am in the peak of my sexual prime [Ed: No, you’re not.] and way too lovely [Ed: No, you’re not.] to be living like a nun. and it’s VERY depressing.” [Ed: Yes, it is.]

So she’s taken action but O’Connor is not looking for just any man. She specifically wants a middle-aged, sweet, sex-starved man – who doesn’t use hair product, lives in Ireland, loves his mother… There’s a host of stipulations for O’Connor’s would-be sex partners.

Sinead, spinhead, spinster, Irish Lassie, lumpentits… have you looked in a mirror lately? You’re in no position to make ANY kind of demands on men. You should thank your LUCKY FUCKING STARS if you get a homeless, piss-stained BUM to stick it in your distended flabby sowhole.

It’s this sort of insistently aggressive delusion, so common amongst the aging cougar crowd, fat harpies and single moms, that pings my target designation flaydar. This is the kind of bullheaded clown steeped in pretty lies who serves as an excellent test case to be made example of for the benefit of younger, more sensible women who might be teetering on the brink of bad life decisions. You could almost… almost… say I’m a humanitarian.

Let me be clear, if I haven’t already. Ladeeeeez, listen up. When you look more like post-wall Sinead and less like pre-wall Sinead (see above), it’s time for you to ratchet down your lists of demands in men. Any man you manage to get, if you get any, won’t meet them. They won’t even come close to meeting them. I understand it gives you some psychological comfort to pretend you have standards in the face of your horrible disfigurement at the cruel hands of father time, but actually living by those ridiculous standards instead of just hypocritically mouthing them to rock yourself to sleep at night is NOT going to land you a man of any semi-respectable character, intelligence, wit or looks. If anything, such strict adherence will consign you to lifelong celibacy. The men you will find attractive, quite bluntly, won’t find you attractive. At all. You will be worse than invisible to them. You will be repulsive. A monster to avoid or mock.

The time for women to nurse a list of exorbitant demands in the men they date is when they are young, slender and cute. By young, I mean under 25. By slender, I mean BMI 17-23. By cute, I mean the top half of the women in this post. If any of those ingredients are missing, women need to slacken their demands in accordance with the degree to which they veer from the feminine ideal. So if you are old, fat and ugly, the only demand you can make of men and reasonably hope to achieve is that he isn’t a corpse. Even then, it’s a tough sell.

Sinead is an especially illustrative wall splat, as her entitlement complex, rivaling that of kings and queens, is a classic case of projection. She is attracted to men with fame and power, and so she thinks men will be attracted to women with fame and power. She has fame (loosely defined) and thinks that men will love her for it. This is the worst life station that can befall the single cougar: to have the trappings of male attractiveness with none of the trappings of female attractiveness. On paper and in thrall to their hamsters, these powerful older women think they deserve the best. In the reality of the sexual marketplace, they are the forgotten femmes of yesteryear, cavalierly shoved aside by men with options for the younger, prettier girls of their fervid dreams.

But it gets better:

And further posts [from Sinead] brought more. Prospective lovers can be lesbian; may even, she conceded, be christened Brian or Nigel; but anal sex is non-negotiable.

“Any man I contemplate has to be into anal sex …  let me now take time to make VERY clear that yes I ‘do anal’ and in fact I would be deeply unhappy if ‘doing anal’ wasn’t on the menu, amongst everything else$ So if u don’t like ‘the difficult brown’.. Don’t apply.”

When I think of the joys of anal, it’s a cute, young chick whose silky smooth back passage I’m violating. If I wanted to trek through a dank forest and hack away at thick underbrush with a machete while the stench of rotting carcass meat singed my nostril hairs, I’d sooner travel to the Amazon than Sinead O’Connor’s ass.

But I can understand why Sinead has highlighted this demand of hers. Naturally, as women age, they become more willing to experiment with all manner of sexual kink. It’s totally predictable. When you don’t have your cute looks to trade in on anymore, you have to make up the shortfall with some other, usually less intriguing, enticement, like a willingness to lodge your ass into a bottomless hammock and swing onto a dildo machine for the amusement of your loser lover.

I do wonder, though, if the Chateau message is starting to infiltrate the borg collective; if perhaps a great cougar awakening is upon us. An aging single mom writes a blog honestly appraising her low SMV and the Darwinian brutality of the dating market for women like herself.

‘I always had boyfriends when I was younger and assumed I would again after James was born,’ she says. ‘When he  was three, I started chatting online. These chats were fun — and sometimes quite flirty — but if I ever suggested  we meet, the men would often back  off, saying they were not looking for a relationship.’

A dozen or so dates followed over the years, none of them quite right. When she last registered with an online dating site she was 44 — and few men made contact. ‘Forty is a huge cut-off point for a lot of men,’ Ruthie explains. ‘There was just one I met and we had a fantastic evening. I was surprised afterwards when he didn’t get in touch.

‘Six months later, he did contact me. It turned out he’d seen some other women when he saw me and gone on to have brief relationships with them. When those relationships failed, he came back to me and I just felt, “He’ll be off again”, so I didn’t pursue it.’

Youch. This is the kind of crappy male behavior a woman on the downslope of her attractiveness and saddled with bastard spawn can expect from the men she wants to date. It won’t get better if she insists on only dating men she finds attractive. It will only get worse. Men with options simply won’t treat has-been single moms as well as they will treat already-is hot young childless babes. That is, if they deign to treat them with anything but callous indifference. More younger women need to hear stories like hers. It could save a lot of potential heartache.

And then there’s this online evidence for an awakening among older women.

Katie Sheppard, the director of relationships at Match.com, said online dating was now the second most common way couples met across the UK – behind being introduced by friends or family – and for older people it can be a perfect way to “dip a toe back into dating”.

Its research shows that dating is, especially for divorced women, fraught with complication, anxiety and worry. Looking for second-time love when children are a first priority is a challenge. Nicola Lamond, Netmums spokeswoman and mother, said: “Being a single parent can be pretty tough. Single parents describe themselves as lonely, isolated, vulnerable and worthless. There is a real sense their world has shrunk.”

There is a sense their world has shrunk… because it has.

Even Sinead has a hope of coming around to sensibility on her sexual obsolescence.

“Fire-men, rugby players, and Robert Downey-Junior will be given special consideration. As will literally anyone who applies.”

Sometimes, you just can’t give the stuff away for free.

Now is the time to take the message of this blog global. To ostracize the rigidly denialist feminists and to cajole the merely confused into the light of wisdom. To, in a word, increase the sum total of happiness in the world.

It beats listening to me gloat ‘I told ya so’.

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  1. Sinead should try a dating service in India, I hear those guys are hard up. The Middle East, too. Secondary benefit is they’ll make her wear a bag/veil over her head.

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    • I was going to make a joke about all the single men in China but they have porn and WoW now. She needs to leave Ireland and head to the more diverse parts of the world.

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    • on September 1, 2011 at 1:20 pm greatbooksformen GBFM

      Prince: it’s been 7 hours and 13 days
      Since u took your love away
      I go out every night and sleep all day
      Since u took your love away

      (lzoozozozoz it’s been 7,300,309 big macs and 13,787,304 cherry pies since u took our breaths away sinead zlozozlzllzzl)

      I eat out every night and eat all day
      And we took our love away lzozozozllz

      Rosie: since youve been gone I can do whatever I want
      I can see who ever I choose
      Eat 74 dinners in a fancy restaurant, oh yeah
      But nothing, nothing can take away these blues

      P & r: nothing compares, nothing compares 2 u (because u are so ufkcing fatt and masive!) lzozoozlz)

      Rosie: oh baby

      Prince: it’s been so lonely without u here
      Im like a bird without a song (a gina without a dong too ya fat fuck lzozozlz)
      Nothing can stop this lonely rain from falling (and rolig ofof my fat rolslslzozlzoz)
      Tell me baby, where did I go wrong?
      (lzoozzozozozozo by stufifng your fat fac emaybe? lzozozlzlzlz)

      Rosie: oh baby
      I can put my arms around every boy I see, oh yeah (but they can’t get their arms aorund you zlzoozozlzozozlzlzzlzo)
      But they only remind me of u

      Prince: all my dames remind me of u too girl, oh yeah (yeah when i add up their weight all totegetehr tthey remind me of you all three tons of them zlzolzlzo)

      Rosie: I went 2 the doctor, guess what he told me
      Prince: whatd he tell u? (you’re a fttatatay? a faatatassed fattyho?)

      Rosie: guess what he told me
      Prince: Im listening

      Rosie: he said, rosie,
      Prince: what?

      Rosie: try to eact cinamaon bunns no matter what u do
      Prince: u wanna tell me why?

      Rosie: he’s a fool

      P & r: nothing compares (no), nothing compares 2 u

      Rosie: ooh, baby
      Prince: tenor man, play it for me

      Prince: all the flowers that u planted, sugar
      In the backyard all died when u went away
      (cayuse you ATE THEM!!!)))!)

      Rosie: ooh baby, I know that living with me baby
      Is sometimes hard, sometimes hard
      (because i ate all the fofofofo food in da fridge until you no loneg rgot ahrd for me lzozozlz)
      But Im willing, Im willing 2 give it one more try

      Prince: one more try
      Rosie: please do you know why, do you know why

      P & r: nothing compares (no), nothing compares 2 u (because u are so ufkcing fatt and masive!) lzozoozlz)

      Rosie: oh, baby
      Prince: everytime I eat…

      P & r: nothing compares (no), nothing compares 2 u (because u are so ufkcing fatt and masive!) lzozoozlz)

      Prince: rosie gaines (gains weight!!!)))

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  2. Yep, it seems like the only way for women to avoid such a fate is to settle early with a beta provider. And since they will never ever do that, it’s party time.
    More tragic than the fate of a cougar, is the downfall of a civilization. But since we’ve been blessed with game knowledge and this blog, at least it’s gonna be fun.

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    • People throw around this “downfall of civilization” idea rather casually.

      What, exactly, does that look like to you?

      Single moms= no more civilization?

      I can deal.

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      • Maybe it means paying attention to world affairs and the decline in economy, poor candidates for national office, etc. There is no question Western civilization is coming down.

        It’s interesting to me that the downfall of many great societies was preceded by a rise in hedonistic pleasure seeking tendencies. Homosexuality, pump-n-dumps, etc. Not unlike the shifts in thinking today, eh? Perhaps the most interesting part to me about the current one is we could say feminism, and man’s neutered resistance to it, is responsible.

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      • Many times on this blog I’ve asked for a specific image instead of the vague hand wringing that is the phrase “the end of civilization”. Exactly what does that look like?

        The end of civilization means nothing. What – building are going to fall down? People will stop waking up in the morning and going to work?

        A recession?

        What EXACTLY?

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 4:09 pm Marshall Lentini

        I share your puzzlement and have argued elsewhere against all-too-dramatic invocations of the collapse of all civilization. Yet at least our share in civilization is failing in crucial areas, such as demography and the family. When these guys say “end of civilization”, what they mean is the collapse of white bio-culture.

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      • If we are talking about the fall of America, spend about a week over at http://www.market-ticker.org/ and you should not have any more questions.

        If we are talking more about civilization and culture I think Aaron got it right. Politicians are crooks and liars. ALL OF THEM. The men with true ideals justifiably have not interest in corrupting themselves in an attempt to create real change. The idea of family these days is a complete joke, art has devolved into piss jokes, the economy is on the verge of collapse and no one in power has the balls to do what truly needs to be done. Add to this that most Westerners either don’t care or are completely ignorant to force change and you have a recipe for disaster. The future should be quite interesting.

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      • Sting, decline of civ is a very different image than the end of it.

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      • on September 2, 2011 at 8:37 am Some Bullshit Handle

        I am late to reply, but, I am guessing that they mean Detroit (or Camden, or Compton, or East St Louis, or Juarez…) but, without any suburban tax support.

        Basically, a hell hole.

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      • Oh – end of civilization means whites will be outbred by blacks and browns, and the ghetto trash among them act uncivil and dangerous.

        Ok – if that’s what’s being talked about.

        I thought we were talking about white people having out of wedlock babies causing the end of civilization.

        That’s why I was asking. Because the image “the end of civilization” is deliberately vague.

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      • Or are people really saying that whites will start to behave like low class blacks and browns soon if women don’t start being more serious about marriage?

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      • mrnotnot, having a blind spot? Granted, people usually see one problem at a time and don’t try to connect them together, conjecturing the possible outcome.

        Here is a puzzle for you:
        The pond has a lily pad that grows twice as large every day. The pond grows over in 30 days. At what day would the pond be half covered?

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      • Cadnerd, yes, we can follow all the varioius trends and and predict a future.

        But I don’t see a causal link between out of wedlock births and the black problem.

        It isn’t out of wedlock births in whites that cause race riots and black slums.

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      • Actually, yes, there’s a common denominator. Think about it.

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      • Common denominator or causal link? Is one causing or contributing to the other? How?

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      • Common denominator or causal link?
        ^^^

        Is one causing or contributing to the other? How?

        At the moment, they are separate issues, though stemming from one causal base. In the near future, they would mutually contribute and interact with each other.

        I’ll give some food for thought over the weekend. Busy tonight.

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      • The recent riots in England are a good picture.

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      • it takes a family, generally speaking, to properly raise, educate, and provide for children.
        clearly, governments do a very poor job of parenting, yet it is clear that 1) a distressingly high number of people need babysitting and 2) this results in far less freedom and prosperty forove the rest of us, as large and powerful governments take over more and more of the economy.
        Rome fell, basically, because their citizens, who formerly would serve in the legions or in government or businesses, became lazy welfare fat asses who sat around eating “free” bread from Egyptian grain. Sort of like many whiskey tangos and certain others do today in America.
        meanwhile, a few politicians corrupted their armies and the Senate, and Western Rome was overrun by harder working, tougher, smarter “barbarians.”

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      • patriarchy = civilization
        matriarchy != civilization

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      • It means that the people who build,maintain, and make all this possible are going to have if nothing else severely reduced incentives to get off their ass and build things more sophisticated than grass huts.

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      • Money will stop being an incentive? Engineers will quit their jobs?

        WE ARE LITERALLY GOING TO LIVE IN GRASS HUTS?

        Your exageration just makes you look wilfully stupid. Must you make a point in that way?

        Accuracy and nuance can work for you better.

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      • Well it seems the education system in the US has failed miserably as usual. Of course the monetary incentive will be there, however as more “nerds” or engineers end up alone and unmarriagle many of them won´t pass their genes, the ones that do marry will be ripped apart in your courts and more disfunctional spawn will come to rise as the next generation from previously intact structures, result: Idiocicracy, at least in the US and Western Europe, a slow and very sensible decline in manners, infrastructure, innovation, etc. and a return to african sexual mores, result: stagnation. Now you understand it?

        Well at least it will be fun for those of us who have game and can afford a good position and escape routes….

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      • How many generations do you see it taking before idiocracy happens? And what measurable real world example can we use for it?

        For instance, are we REALLY going to live in grass huts, and if so, in what year?

        No, there will always remain enough engineers to do our civil engineering. We won’t have a civil engineering crisis because of lack of strong families.

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      • xsplat wrote:

        No, there will always remain enough engineers to do our civil engineering. We won’t have a civil engineering crisis because of lack of strong families.

        You are either historically ignorant or too sanguine. We have lost institutional memories before. Have you heard of “The Dark Ages”? The technology of Rome permitted the first city of one million inhabitants in the first century B.C. After it was sacked (while you’re looking up Dark Ages, check out the etymology of the term “vandal”), there wouldn’t be a metropolis breaking six figures in population until 19th century London.

        Modern civilization depends on a micro-division of labor based on highly specialized, narrow fields of study. Is there a single person in the world who could assemble, say, an iPhone from scratch? A skyscraper? An aqueduct to service millions? How about … a No. 2 pencil?

        It is not alarmist to acknowledge that the bonds of civilization are not as robust as some assume occur automatically in nature. They are actually rather fragile, and degradation can happen quickly in a panic. See Detroit (once “Motor of America”), Beirut (once “Paris of the East”), Greek riots, London riots. Modern life requires a kind of vigilance we are beginning to forget how to honor.

        We are soft in the west, we who are unto the manor born. Soft bellied, soft fingered, soft headed. If you don’t appreciate the decadence around you, you don’t appreciate just how far we are hovering above the state of nature, riding the imaginary momentum like Wile E. Coyote run off a cliff and hasn’t looked down yet. You don’t assault the foundation beneath you with impunity and avoid consequences.

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      • Something telling when the one who makes an accusation of “dysfunctionality” can’ t spell it. Sort of undermines the gravitas of the message.

        Also, wild guess about Sinead’s decline in appearance–might there be a tale more cautionary about alcohol rather than age? With her genetics, if she’d kept the weight off she’d still probably be very pretty.

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      • incentives will vanish, along with freedom, prosperity, and upward mobility.
        the fact that marriage, education, and small business ownership is becoming increasingly less and less popular is a worrisome but definitive indicator
        it will take a few generations, but we will increasingly resemble france, then greece, then the congo.
        one can definitively blame the stupidity of socialist ideology.

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    • on September 1, 2011 at 9:42 pm I'm the Winjer

      Let me just say this…. Throughout history until this day, all the highest positions in society, all the sex with the highest quality women, most of the wealth, has all been concentrated in a sociopathic elite.

      Here is the score throughout history:

      Clinical sociopaths: 13734137287347325
      Normal, decent men: 3792

      Study a bit of history and discover….. basically every civilization consisted of power hungry, emotionless sociopaths exploiting and dominating the masses.

      Now this is really no surprise, considerring we are based on chimpanzees, the most violent, quick-tempered apes in nature.

      Gotta love humanity!!!

      And to those who hate on GBFM. He is brilliant and pretty much spot on about everything, particularly the FED’s sociopathic, exploitative nature. If you don’t recognize this you are a moron. Not to mention he’s prob the funniest poster i have ever come across on the intertubes.

      i love u gbfm don’t stop baby ooohhhh yeaaaa

      i actually might start spamming this in every topic bc i think this is an important message for all.

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      • I hate the cant term “sociopath.” You use this treacly little piece of shaming language because you’re a gutless loser.

        And that’s how it is.

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      • humans follow their own self interest, whether they’re politicians, women, or men who actually produce goods and services.
        the term “sociopath” is fast becoming a cop out fir moralistic, sanctimonious libtards, along with other pseudo-psychiatric terms.s like “narcissist,” “egomaniac,” or “abuser.”
        it should be a good clue this bs is most popular with women, academics, minorities, and college sophomores, most (not all, but most) of whom are rapidly hastening our decline into soup kitchens and politburos.

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      • A sociopath is a person who does not put my interests above his own – according to those who manipulate with shame in order to get group social and personal benefit. Any woman, any minority concern.

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      • According to the evolutionary theory, chimps are cousins. We’re not based on chimps. Though, in your case, I’ll make an exception. That, beside you being also a moron, to boot.

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      • “Based on” meaning closest genetic heritage. Which species are we closer to?

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      • Them words have a meaning. Based on not eq closest to. If he said “sharing common genetic and behavioral traits”, I’d have no objections.

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    • xsplat wrote: People throw around this “downfall of civilization” idea rather casually. What, exactly, does that look like to you?

      You have to have a firm grasp on what constitutes and sustains civilization before you can recognize its deterioration in your midst.

      And “downfall” doesn’t mean imminent armageddon. It the terminus point to which our slow decline is directed, and may at an unpredictable moment lurch toward. That endpoint is not necessarily “grass huts,” but rather a reminder that the principles which have advanced us out of grass huts (and keep the grocery shelves stocked and warm water running) are being taken for granted at best, actively assaulted at worst.

      What “the downfall of civilization” looks like to us is the intergenerational chaos precipitated by decades of shoddy social maintenance. Our natural state is not peace and prosperity, but rather the opposite, the Hobbesian “war of all against all.”

      [A] time of war, where every man is enemy to every man, the same consequent to the time wherein men live without other security than what their own strength and their own invention shall furnish them….

      In such condition there is no place for industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain: and consequently no culture of the earth; no navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by sea; no commodious building; no instruments of moving and removing such things as require much force; no knowledge of the face of the earth; no account of time; no arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.
      — Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan ch XIII [bold added]

      The contradiction of this website is that it laments and criticizes the decadence while taking full advantage of it. Indeed, game wouldn’t yield such astonishing, regular, and immediate results if civilization weren’t so vitiated. Hence Roisy’s frequent remarks about enjoying La Vita “Poolside.”

      This is dereliction, a cop-out. Shoplifting during the general uproar. But understandable.

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      • All this “downfall of civilization” talk is cant and prattle. Computing power continues to increase; novel computational architectures are being tested; and quite soon you will carry a scannable card in your wallet that represents your decoded genome.

        People who believe that technological and material progress are magically coming to an end are deluded. It is moving ahead, and fast.

        One may detest the current ideological environment, esp. the feminist debagging of men, and still understand the *ferocious* advances happening on a far more basic level.

        But one is addicted to melodrama.

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      • The world is changing fast.

        Some people literally believe that god will strike us all with pestilence and punishment unless we act in accordance with his commandments. Gays will bring earthquakes. Out of wedlock births will bring the full and final destruction of all.

        No.

        The world is changing fast, in many directions. The end won’t come because of family structures.

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      • That’s only symptoms, not causes. And no god needs to be involved, really, given the endowment of free will… if there’s a capital you can count on, it’s stupidity. The willingness to accept fairy tales (I don’t mean theist religions, they serve as anchors to social functions), despite that the reality on ground indicates otherwise.

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      • “cant and prattle”

        I had to look up the definition of cant. Nice rhythm to the phrase, like a horses trot. Cant and prattle, cant and prattle. Propaganda propaganda.

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      • Cant Noun: Hypocritical and sanctimonious talk, typically of a moral, religious, or political nature.
        Verb: Talk hypocritically and sanctimoniously about something.

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      • n/a wrote:

        All this “downfall of civilization” talk is cant and prattle. Computing power continues to increase; novel computational architectures are being tested; and quite soon you will carry a scannable card in your wallet that represents your decoded genome.

        Non sequiturs. What does malaise and decadence have to do with DNA on a scannable card? It sounds like you believe in the singularity, the Dork Eschaton wherein our consciousness will merge wholly and infinitely with technology. The term, “ferocious advances” tipped us off to your faith.

        Citing irrelevant technological advances is really just evading the question, on par with the early Christians expecting an imminent second coming. Why do we have to confront these thorny issues? Our souls will all be uploaded to microchips in 3… 2… 1….

        Or it smacks of the arguments adolescents made for sloth during the cold war. Why should I study or make any life plans? Ronnie Raygun is going to blow us all up in a nuclear holocaust any day now. Etc.

        One does not have to “believe that technological and material progress are magically coming to an end” in order to point out that an magical faith in technology’s beneficence is unwarranted, much less to point out that fantastical sci-fi artifice is a less-than-comprehensive explanation for and panacea to the permanent problems of the human condition.

        Just as it is useless to point out the meaning of structural stress fractures to non-engineers, it is useless to engage in a serious discussion about decadence with those who apparently do not possess a grasp of the historical context and unconsciously proselytize a religion of eschatological transhumanism.

        Further, it is worse than useless to try rousing the interest of the adherents of a self-centered philosophy. A prerequisite to having a serious exchange about the “downfall of civilization” is having a stake in the future. What does it matter what you leave behind once you’ve returned to the abyss? In order to notice the anomalies in the long view, you have to care that you are leaving conditions worse off than you received it. Otherwise all is interpreted ipso facto as “progress.”

        I answered xsplat’s inquiry earnestly. I should have realized it was purely rhetorical, if not outright baiting.

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      • KA,

        “Malaise” and “decadence” are words easily tossed around. The work required to have your scanned genome fit suavely into your wallet does not happen in a decadent society. It happens in a society which devotes a great deal of wealth and energy to scientific research and application.

        Ingrate luddites imagine that the difficult work of scientific and technological progress “just happens.” Maybe they think Google was really always there?

        Kurzweilian predictions of the future are blather. One is confronted by equally dim idiocy from those babbling about depravity and their brothers-in-fantasy babbling about “singularity.”

        Technology will not “save” us, but it will change us, and the current rate of change is well-described by my word ferocious.

        A personal remark. When you relax and post playfully, what you write is engaging; but when you’re stringing together your long and long-winded periods of rhetorical remonstrance, your writing devolves into bloviations of the purest hackery.

        A word to the wise.

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      • Are you implying that feminist values will lead to a US civil war?

        It is an understood principle that war is cyclical, and that prosperity depends on the absence of war.

        Personally I don’t see the people being able to fight the machine. The machine will grind on, hobbled.

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      • “It is an understood principle that war is cyclical, and that prosperity depends on the absence of war. ”

        Not in the real history books. It may be a wash but there are plenty of counter examples. The most obvious one should be the USA in WWII.

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      • By absence of war I meant domestic stability.

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      • And by stability I mean property rights being secure.

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  3. BRUTAL!!!!!

    *Cues Mortal Kombat Music* FATALITY!!!

    Back to your regularly scheduled programming…

    SSTTE

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  4. I thought at first taht it was just a spectacularly bad camera angle, but no:

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  5. In her defense, it’s said that this recent bloating is due to psychiatric medication she’s been taking, so perhaps it’s temporary.

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    • She’s not only fat, she’s also uglified and wrinkled.
      A man is his right state of mind cannot put up with an aging hag if he didn’t have her around when she was young, hot and tight.
      She’s apparently bisexual. If i was her, i would snag another dyke and join the ranks of the male-hating lesbocunt sisterhood. Men are such pigs… oink oink.

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    • I don’t think the meds are working so she might as well get off them.

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    • So she is certified to be crazy? Kind of nice to have the support of science (if you want to call psychiatry that)

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  6. That is just sad. Of course, for most chicks, society is more than helpful to help a girl monetize her looks until she hits that wall, leaving them at best with a few bucks. But even the killer of pretty lies knows this is a losing proposition.
    Someone once wrote:

    then pull your daughter aside and be real firm
    “keep your legs shut and your hands off the worm
    you’re a princess you’re a queen
    you’re worth more than heaven
    make those boys wait till your seventy-seven
    don’t try to slum it with assholes and herbs
    and don’t slut it up cause that’s what you heard
    your window is small, by 30 it’s closed
    you want lawyers, kids and money?
    keep it scarce till you’re betrothed
    and no, you’re not gettin’ a fucking clit piercing

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  7. “So if you are old, fat and ugly, the only demand you can make of men and reasonably hope to achieve is that he isn’t a corpse.”

    Why? Corpses can have solid erections.

    And do not complain. Maybe yes, they return as zombies and complain, if that monster touches them.

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  8. All you bloggers — move you own gut aside before you criticize others. Wash that greasy combover, and brush your one yellow tooth and come on here and criticize someone who while not at her prime is still better looking than YOU are.

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    • No one criticizes old age or the unavoidable decline.

      We criticize the arrogance and the stupid faking that time does not exist.

      “come on here” Here where? To you, “not at her prime”? Well “Anonymous” even your nickname seems desiccated.

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    • What kind of projection is this? Anyone even remotely familiar with the blog would know that most of the older dudes here are familiar with the weight room and other attempts at maintaining SMV.

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      • I gt the golden ratio body. I’m short and I still get quality poon. It’s all about the weights and sports.

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      • The weight room, a good haircut, and clean clothes help a ton; game helps, of course, as does a decent job.
        None of which Swineaid seems to bother with – nor most other women over 40.
        It IS possible for women in their 40’s and even 50’s to stay hot – but few bother. My guess is that they. they grow very entitled and lazy in their teens and twenties, not having to work as hard as men, and as estrogen levels plummet their metabolism and bad habits make them resemble a post-op Chaz Bonoh.
        The hardest part of an f2m transition is, btw, implanting sanity, responsibility, and a moral center. A phony dong and a double mastectomy are quite simple by comparison.

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    • She’s a fat, old slob and still thinks shaving her head is a good idea. She’s a fucking looney.

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    • Good trolling. You even made few of them to respond seriously.

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  9. Jesus Christ she got fat. That woman should hit the gym, get a dietician and make more good albums.

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  10. on August 31, 2011 at 4:22 pm Clit Commander

    @Tinderbox

    Medications won’t make you gain 75 lbs. Weight gain that large actually takes effort, a serious effort.

    Stop being lazy and have some discipline/dignity.

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    • “Stop being lazy and have some discipline/dignity.” Discipline? Ha! And again I say …. Ha! Commander, don’t you know that women nowadays are ENTITLED to drink beer/eat fast food until their gunts dangle past their knees and then still expect attractive men to want to have sex with them? Remember, an extra 75 lbs. around the midsection is but a millisecond’s work (if that) for the female rationalization hamster …

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    • Actually, it seems it does. I know two people who went on anti-schizophrenia medication and piled it on in a matter of weeks, despite being thin all their life. Then one of them went off it and got thin again (and crazy).

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      • thin and crazy will still get them laid, far more than fat and somewhat sane.
        kudos to anyone who can live successfully with a severe mental disorder – but fat women just aren’t sexy.Sorry.
        Short, nervous, and unemployed men have a difficult time finding partners as well.

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      • Weird how they are still getting laid with no problems. And really, when you have delusions or hallucinating, it’s better to become fat and more or less normal than be thin and then attempt to kill your kids because aliens told you to.
        Fat women are sexy alright, just not in these circles 🙂

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 5:09 pm 1st time caller

        Obese women only pass the boner test with fetishists. Fat people who got that way from lifestyle choices are rather disgusting.

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      • Pretty sure with the right mix of mess, therapy, and exercise they could manage both sanity and some degree of attractiveness; SSRImeds can cause some weight gain, but alternate medications can ameliorate that, along with low carbohydrates diets and exercise.

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      • the right mix of medications, I meant, not mess. damn autocorrect.

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  11. Why aren’t we talking about her awesome tribal necklace and sagging tattoos?

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    • I noticed the Yakuza tattoos. Yeah, that shit looks real cute when you’re young and skinny as a heroin addict. But an old fat broad with tattoos just looks . . . sordid.

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  12. i could totally see her doing a slutwalk.

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  13. I’d be very interested to see what kind of response she gets. Obviously it would be near zero under normal circumstances. But there are certain guys out there with very, shall we say “unusual” tastes. Coupled with her fame and money, she might be getting a lot of applicants.

    [Heartiste: Gigolos are known to prey on the emotionally weak for cash and prizes.]

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    • yeah, there’s always a market for cooter. Look at some of the BotM candidates, their fat wives end up shacking up with some troll. But Sinead wants a guy in his prime, a firefighter or Robert Downey.

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      • i wouldn’t be surprised if a guy in his prime goes for her. after all, she’s basically advertised to the whole world that she’s a whore whose perversion knows no limits. there are plenty of guys in their prime who wouldn’t pass up the chance to blow their loads into her festering poop chute. especially since she’s someone well known; it’s one thing to degrade some random skank you picked up the night before, it’s quite another to do it to somebody famous.

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      • Some guy doing it as a joke? I can see that. Tell her whatever to link up then do something horrible and have hidden buddies film it. You wouldn’t even have to actually stick your dick in her. Get her shit faced/passed out then record a stray dog doing her,

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  14. Now that I think about it, I wonder if she even has much money left. My guess is no, because since she didn’t write her only real hit, she doesn’t get any money from airplay on it. (Only the songwriter get royalties from radio airplay.) So she’d only get paid for record sales, which, this many years later, is probably not much.

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  15. A fat, whiny dyke who loves anal … it’ll be a long line, fer sure.

    Time is a bitch, ain’t it?

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  16. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2022102/Why-struggle-single-women-45-meet-soulmate.html

    that’s a seriously unflattering shot of catherine zeta jones in the middle of the page. the wall’s coming up fast….

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    • Yea, but look how old Douglass is; and he looked like death incarnate when he was being treated for cancer. I’m sure a 45 and close to the wall looks ravishing when you look in the mirror and see the Specter of Death staring you back in the face….. for most men doing a few decades younger then yourself is a pretty good way to feel younger.

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      • There is a old Tibetan yogic tradition of sucking on the tongues of young girls in order to get their chi and thus retain youthfulness.

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      • yes and this gives one hope for the future. at 70, a fit 50 year old likely looks young and hot.
        divide your age by two, then add 7. unless you don’t really care (like me) and then set either 18 or 21 as your minimum.

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    • Cue “Jaws” music . . .

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    • Remember…CZJ was recently checked into the hospital for some kind of mental issue, so she’s definitely not at her physical or psychological best. Combine that with approaching middle age, and you have the person in that pic…

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  17. I’ll admit it, I date women in their 40s. Hey, I’m almost 50 myself and I know my SMV.

    But here is what I have experienced in real life as a single guy who dates this age group:

    * Yup, just like Sinead, standards don’t decline as beauty declines.

    * Perversely, standards get higher when beauty declines

    * The rationalization hamster is in its final sprint right before menopause hits

    I’m just dating them and not forming any long term relationships.

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    • “Perversely, standards get higher when beauty declines”

      That’s so unbelievable . . . but so true.

      [Heartiste: The id always lashes out strongest when it’s cornered.]

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    • “* Perversely, standards get higher when beauty declines”

      This way they can claim that it isn’t that they are not as attractive, it is only that there are so few men that meet their “basic” requirements.

      Plenty of men do the same when they are young. But most of them eventually grow out of that childish stage.

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    • athletic women in their 40’s can actually be quite fetching, if they work hard at it. and after a few drinks, they’re often not so picky.
      I’ve had terrific relationships with women in either their early 20’s or early 40’s – we should shoot for either too young to know any better, or too old to care.

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  18. Poetic Justice !

    O’Connor was (and still is) the most self-centered solipsistic singer. So cute when younger that she could flaunt that by shaving her head etc. I am sure the Church has some suitable convent (they shave their heads don’t they) where she can repent and grow old unnoticed.

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  19. i like how skinead puts a 20 year old photo of herself on her blog:

    http://www.sineadoconnor.com/blog.html

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    • Judging by her demands, I’ll assume she sees no difference.

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      • Her list of “demands” is pretty reasonable for her condition. She isn’t delusional:

        Am in desperate need of a very sweet sex-starved man.

        He must be no younger than 44.

        Must be living in Ireland but I don’t care if he is from the planet Zog.

        Must not be named Brian or Nigel.

        Must be blind enough to think I’m gorgeous.

        Has to be employed. Am not fussy in what capacity generally but vehicle clampers need not apply.

        Leather trouser- wearing gardai, fire-men, rugby players, and Robert Downey-Junior will be given special consideration. As will literally anyone who applies.

        I like me a hairy man so buffed and/or waxed need not apply.

        No hair gel.

        No hair dryer use.

        No hair dye

        Stubble is a non-negotiable must. Any removal of stubble would be upsetting for me.

        No after shave.

        Must be very ‘snuggly’. Not just wham-bam.

        Must be wham-bam.

        Has to like his mother.

        Has to like his ex and or mother/s of his children.

        Has to live in own place.

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      • Yes, it is unrealistic. She’s in no position to bargain.

        I have here an 1979 Quazar 16 inch black and white TV with 12 vhf and 84 uhf channels on the 2 dials.

        I demand it watched with rapt attention by a man blind enough to think this old outdated black and white small screen TV is actually competitive with newer large flat screen color models with a remote control and is gorgeous.

        It must be watched by a man who has all these attributes:
        He must be no younger than 44.
        Must be living in Ireland but I don’t care if he is from the planet Zog.
        Must not be named Brian or Nigel.
        Has to be employed. Am not fussy in what capacity generally but vehicle clampers need not apply.
        Leather trouser- wearing gardai, fire-men, rugby players, and Robert Downey-Junior will be given special consideration. As will literally anyone who applies.
        I like me a hairy man so buffed and/or waxed need not apply.
        No hair gel.
        No hair dryer use.
        No hair dye
        Stubble is a non-negotiable must. Any removal of stubble would be upsetting for me.
        No after shave.
        Must be very ‘snuggly’. Not just wham-bam.
        Must be wham-bam.
        Has to like his mother.
        Has to like his ex and or mother/s of his children.
        Has to live in own place.

        Can you imagine putting that advertisement out there?

        Why would anyone even bother showing up for a chance at looking at that TV? And if there is ANYONE who cares to do so, she’s lucky. She doesn’t get to pick and choose among all the many applicants, because they don’t exist.

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    • According to her blog, she’s got a bite!

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  20. This is what gives me great pause and puts a bounce in my step every time a i cant whore cheating on me or pondering passing me up for something better up the food chain. I want to laugh and say “see you in 10 years chap, so i can pump and dump you and remind you what you left behind.”

    Women deserve it all. Each and every pump in dump is just pay back for the Betas they rolled and screwed over.

    God Bless.

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  21. What she meant by sexual prime is her increasing libido. Michelle Langley talked about that in Women’s infidelity, women are more horny after 30 yo. They’re also more likely to chase young studs, even for casual sex (especially when she already has a beta husband dutifully waiting at home). I don’t know if it’s only a race against the ticking clock, or an evolutionary adaptation to avoid that the old eggs meet the old sperm.

    Sexual prime or not, sure as hell that her dating prime is over.

    [Heartiste: I believe it is a myth that women’s libidos peak after 30, or that they become more orgasmic with age. Like men, women pretty much are at their most sexual when young.]

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    • [Heartiste: I believe it is a myth that women’s libidos peak after 30, or that they become more orgasmic with age. Like men, women pretty much are at their most sexual when young.]

      Happen to have much experience with aging broads or just a baseless stipulation?

      [Heartiste: Neither. Read about it in a study. I might look it up if you dance for me.]

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 4:50 pm Marshall Lentini

        Middle-age females being at their sexual peak makes no evolutionary sense. It makes sense to leftists, who are basically anti-sense when it comes to life’s verities. Don’t mistake ability for value. A man looking for the most “experienced” woman is probably a husband type without the wife. Unattached men generally want to feel dominant, which is provided by inexperience, shyness, small bodies, or submissiveness.

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      • It makes evolutionary sense for women’s sexual desire to go up as their desirability goes down. It isn’t clear that this happens though.

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    • “What she meant by sexual prime is her increasing libido.”

      So instead of 10% of a male’s sex drive she now has 20%?

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    • I’m with Hearty on this. Women’s libidos don’t get stronger – what happens is their desperation goes up and their inhibitions go down. They’re not hornier, but they are more interested in kink and quicker to say yes to a guy they’re attracted to.

      The hampster sprints hard, but the woman knows deep down she’s not as pretty as she once was and tries to make up for decreasing looks with increasing availability and sexual compliance.

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      • Agree.

        Not sure where the societal inclanation that ‘a women’s sex drive ramps up after 30’ comes from, but I find the above a logical explanation that is easily misrepresented as the former.

        Now if I could only remember how many cougars have given me a rimjob on the first date…

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      • “I’m with Hearty on this. Women’s libidos don’t get stronger – what happens is their desperation goes up and their inhibitions go down.”

        You are very likely correct. When comparing the actual number of times an 18 yo is willing to have sex a week vs a 45, well, there is no comparison. Hell, now that I think about it I could give a good comparison between the number of times the 20 year olds I knew that were willing to do it a day versus a 45 year old a week.

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 4:54 pm Marshall Lentini

        Well said. In an ancestral environment, thirty years of age is ten or twenty years short of being at death’s doorstep. Why would libido increase so near the close of life? Illogical from an evolutionary standpoint. The body, after its biological peak, is essentially decaying. Sinead is in a state of advanced, ugly decay. Well, she made a name with one great song and a bad haircut. Her whole adult life was a mission in the cause of uglification. Now she reaps the reward.

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  22. I ask this question of the Editor out of total self-interest:

    Why is single parenthood more devastating for women than men? Or is it?

    [Heartiste: From what I have observed and heard, it is. Women with children are a drag on spontaneous romance, which men love. The children themselves are actually a negative hit to a woman’s overall LTR attractiveness, as men do not want to provide for another man’s spawn. Men with children have an allure of power that accrues with the formation of family, and this is attractive to women. You could call it the harem effect. Furthermore, women subconsciously know they won’t be responsible for providing for children who aren’t their own, so the existence of another women’s children is not as much of a negative hit to a man’s relationship attractiveness, as long as the man continues having the wherewithal to provide for them and any additional children he may have with the new woman.]

    In my experience, women are the more rational, hypergamous of the genders, where men are often fooled and led by their emotions. It seems to me that there would be a ton of stupid betas out there willing to “take care” of a poor single mother, but most young women would categorically exclude single dads from their dating pool. Am I wrong?

    [Yes, because the dating market doesn’t work according to criteria women insist upon on blogs and over coffee klatches. In reality, when a woman meets a charismatic man with children, she will be just as enamored of him as if he were childless, if not moreso. Standards tend to go out the window in that case. Of course, a very young woman, say under 23, would be more likely to balk at dating a single father because she is hardly past her extended childhood herself. But that dynamic fades away once you get into the late 20s women.
    As for emotional betas, well, yeah… loser men with few options tend to take what they can get, and to cry over any heartbreak. Which proves my point: Single moms are gonna have to settle for the weak betas if they want an acceptable LTR with a considerate, kind man.]

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    • heartie nailed it.

      also, consider the circumstances under which one becomes a single father: either his wife dies, or she loses custody of her children (which in the u.s. means she’s either an abusive crack whore or a convicted murderer, and i’m not even sure about the latter). no matter how you slice it, a man does not lose value when he becomes a single father.

      [Heartiste: Right. Just FYI, I know a single dad who has had more dating success with the kid than without. If anything, women see his cute little son and they immediately upgrade his LTR potential. But if you’re in the market for ONSs or flings, you might want to drop the kid off at grandmas.]

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      • speaking from personal experience, I agree with heartiste on single moms vs single dads. Otoh, even if you drop the child off for a night – it’s impossible to hide fatherhood – there will be tons of dead giveaways like toys strewn all over the house. However, can this be turned into a strength? Sorta like a beta touch to an otherwise strong alpha game – to create the just right alpha-beta mixture with the je ne sais quoi to get hot minxes into bed? Or am I just dreaming?

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      • I am a single dad of two children, a girl (7) and a boy (6), and it is NOT an obstacle for me.

        I usually have LTRs with young women, and they love to play house.

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      • Appreciate your sharing your experience. My experience has been the same. Note for other single Dads out there – dont be discouraged – go out there, an entirely new world awaits!

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      • It’d be interesting to learn how you are scoring girls so young. It’d seem like you’d be no where near their social circles.

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      • I dont know about @SingleDad above. As for me, I use the standard advice given to all men in the sphere – go where the targets are, and use day game (I dont use night game, got no time for it). Plus, you gotta learn what’s been taught ya, and improvise for your particular situation.

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      • This is all like saying “hey the sky is blue”.

        The best props possible for day game are a hand full of well-behaved and cute little kids, regardless of whether they’re yours or not. It shows you’re responsible, trusted and will be a good father to the target’s kids.

        One way that Hollywood knows how to build a high value male character quickly for a romantic film, is to show him with children being a good father after his wife died or ran off. Or showing him babysitting his sister’s kids.

        Nora Ephron ran with this.

        Sleepless in Seattle: Hanks was a good catch for Meg Ryan because he was raising a son

        You’ve Got Mail: Hanks was a good catch for Meg Ryan because his Joe Fox character was seen by her playing dad with his kids on the weekends.

        (Praise God those two actors never again appeared together because there would have been a spike in suicides)

        But yes:

        Babysitting during the day, in a public place, produces the best day game results (for a guy at least – results for a woman using kids as props to meet men might not turn out so well).

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    • Most men either consciously or subconsciously know that when dealing with a woman that has a kid or kids; the kid(s) will always be her No.1 priority.

      Kids are demanding of time and energy and they need constant attention.

      By the way; it’s great to see the “old” Roissy back. Epic post.
      I hope Shithead O’connor reads it and cries.

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 4:59 pm Marshall Lentini

        You know better than that. She’d be more likely to e-mail Hearty to grovel after considerable pique at being told the gross truth of her being. Women like that LOVE men with a devastating command of words and ideas, even if it’s critical of women, or of themselves. It is an extension of domination. She is saying: I am dominated by your cognitive superiority; I am fucked; now fuck me for real.

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    • See also: guys who have been engaged before are more attractive than girls who’ve broken engagements. A guy who has a kid he cares for (as opposed to skipping paying support to a bastard from a baby momma) or being once engaged is a form of preselection.

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  23. >Reading this post at 1 AM
    >Click ling-chi link
    >Read article

    Thanks for the nightmare fuel.

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  24. Wait a minute. In an article you posted earlier this summer, you yourself placed value on a man’s age in attractiveness towards women. The poll assigned negative points to men over a certain age bracket.

    [Heartiste: The ravages of time affect women much more harshly than men. Men’s window of attractiveness is larger.]

    Ten years ago, when I first took an interest in this stuff, I realized that the traditional method of dating and marriage is not what actually happens in real life. Then, for many years, I used to think that the seduction community had it right – that any man can raise his attractiveness towards women by changing his behavior. But my experience simply doesn’t support that the seduction community has the right answer either. I think that the truth is that some people simply cannot become attractive to women no matter how hard they try because of one of a few unchangeable attributes.

    Three months ago, I made a post on reddit asking someone to come forward if he has “changed his life” by going from never having had sex to being a master pickup artist who approaches women successfully every night – and who is not involved with any corporation attempting to sell “pickup” services. Nobody has replied.

    See, all the greatest “pickup artists” have non-changable attributes that women find attractive. They are all either young, tall, have the ability to grow a beard, have the right facial shape, have a lot of money, and so on. They were successful in being with women because they possess these attributes, and therefore decided to start a business on it. The “pickup” philosophy only works for a very small number of people who already have these attributes and who never socialized; everyone else will see no improvement by following “routines” and making more approaches.

    [Game will help every man, to a greater or lesser extent. There is no man for whom game will make zero improvement in his love life. Naturally, a young handsome man will see more benefit from game, but an old ugly man will see improvements as well. The difference will be in the degree of improvement. The former may go from dating 7s to dating 9s, while the latter may go from dreary one night stands with 3s to steady dating with 5s.]

    99% of people who visit fastseduction.com read the posts and don’t follow them, or post lies. I challenge you to profile someone who actually performed this miraculous transformation from “beta” male to someone who has women fawning over him every single night and who does not have a commercial interest in sharing his story.

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    • You asked that question on Reddit? One of the most beta websites on the planet? Bwahahahahah’

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    • I can be your test case. I am a recently divorced, 35 year old father of two. While never an omega, (looks probably 6.5 and upper middle class professional) i have definitely lived most of my adult life in the higher beta range. Prior to marrying an 8, the majority of my dates were girls in the 6.5-7 range. I do not memorize routines, but I have internalized a great deal of non-verbal and have become more comfortable in speaking with women since reading this blog the past year. We’ll see how it goes

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      • Heh, I bet you do just fine. Can you improve your build at all or are you all ready in good shape? If you have not started hitting the gym, do so. You will do even better. 35 is still quite young for a man.

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      • My level of fitness is definitely my strong suit. I’m just under 6 foot and in the best shape of my life at 165 pounds. I’d like to put on another 5-10 pounds, but i’m naturally pretty thin and already starting to get the body-builder look (veiny). I don’t want to overdo it. Biggest thing hurting my looks is my balding, huge head. A female friend recently told me I was a 7.5, so adjusting for friend inflation, I’d say 7 is about right.

        I’m having no problem with girls in the 6.5-7 range so far. But for the girls with near unlimited options (7.5 and up), my kids, divorced status and less than perfect looks are keeping them just out of reach it seems. But its early. Only been out on the scene for about 3 months.

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      • hair loss isn’t insurmountable. you could simply shave it all off, lots of women like that look.

        game is what will get you into that 8+ territory.

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      • I second itsme. I, and lots of women, find bald men extremely attractive. If you have the head shape, and more importantly, the balls to shave it, so much the better.

        Yum

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      • I actually look a lot like that guy, except I keep my hair shorter. I don’t mean to sound pessimistic. I’ll give it some time. The biggest problem right now is knowing where to find the women I’m looking for (26-32). I’m in a college town, so lots of eye candy, but most are too young. I’ve already made the mistake of investing conversation time with girls 21 or 22 only to have them bolt upon learning that I had kids. I think the big problem is that quality girls 26-32 are most often married. On the flip side, I’m now the default “single guy” for all my friends, so I should be getting a few introductions just for lack of any competition.

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      • Go tell you husband that you had impure thoughts about jason statham and repent yourself by giving him an unforgettable blowjob. Now!

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      • Anonymous,

        HA! We just watched part of “The Expendables” last night and he picked it, so . . . husband is good.

        BTW, anyone here who grew up during the 80’s and loved the cheesy action flicks of that time, this movie is awesome. I mean, it’s terrible, but it is AWESOME.

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      • Sidewinder,

        Shorter hair than that is good. He usually keeps it completely shaved and I didn’t realize he had longer hair in that pic. I wasn’t looking at his head. ; )

        Anyway, I truly think that if you have internalized a lot of game you will do very well. I have heard a lot of mention of day game here. You might have a lot more luck with that in the 26-32 year old crowd.

        Oh, and if you look like Jason Statham, you are most definitely more than a 7.

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      • Oh, and for lots of women, the kids will be an added attraction. There is . . . something . . . about a dad with his kids. As long as she is not terribly young and not a shrew, I don’t think they will hinder you in your pursuits. I would watch out before introducing them to any women though, for their sakes, not the women’s.

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    • You are presenting the ‘seduction community’ as if it is one unilateral message that can take a retard licking the windows on the small bus all the way to blowing his load on megan fox’s face. No. It’s a pool of information and knowledge, and when applied actively and reflected upon in a positive continual learning loop, favorable results will occur.

      Roisy is correct: Game will help any man improve, relative to where they are currently.

      You can’t just read some posts, beat off in your brain then expect to bang 10s.

      There is a substantial ‘work’ component to game that I believe many don’t realize. Game works. Stop crying and stop reading reddit.

      Game has improved my life.

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    • Why would an old ugly man bother putting all that effort into game to move from 3s to 5s when they could go the route of prostitution and bang 7s and up?

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    • I’ve done it.

      I went from 22 year old virgin to a 27 year old playa. I’ve made products that due to various reasons were never released (working with other PUAs/companies usually results in nothing ever getting done), and since then given up on any idea of “coaching” since I don’t feel the lifestyle I lead actually works for anyone other than myself.

      Too many dudes want romance, a nice girl they can be with forever, and settle down with. Romance is long dead to me. I’ve realized there is no settling down, there is no forever. There is only a moment in which to live, and my happiness in that moment is entirely dependent on my ability and my mind’s ability to find happiness even in the harshest of realities.

      I’ve realized that becoming a master player really only works for some guys. Not because of looks, not because of money, but because of desire. Unless a man is fully willing accept a lifestyle of flings and sexual debauchery on Emperor Nero levels so bad they’d risk life and death for it, they will never succeed to the point of mastery.

      Mastery of PUA requires that you stake your very existence in it. But such is the price of mastering anything. It’s do or die, anything less and really all this community has to offer an average guy is some insight into women and some little tips. For most men, getting prostitutes and going your own way is sufficient enough for happiness and sexual fulfillment. Game is only for people who can enjoy the process of game, and can actually enjoy the drama and are willing to take the risks that go with it. (and the risks of game, even when played well are SUPER HIGH).

      But every night having a new girl? Nah. I party with the most hardcore of hardcore alt-girls. That sort of partying takes a toll on anyone’s body. If I did it every night I’d be dead. I actually enjoy spending time with friends, shooting the shit, and believe it or not actually just being able to geek out with people I enjoy. Anymore than 3 new girls in a week, (plus maintaining the harem) and I’m kinda ready to sit down and play video games for the next week. Though this too may change.

      Though in all honesty, I found the best ‘game’ book really didn’t have anything to do with game. The first book of Conversations with God was basically what took me from routines and BS to not even having enough time to put my dick into the girls I randomly fingerbang at raves.

      What’s that? Close that shit? But there’s already a hotter girl that wants to suck my dick, That’s just how it goes.

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      • I took a few moments to look up “Conversations with God” on Amazon. The few editorial reviews I read seemed vague. I’d be interested to learn if there were some ideas that you can articulate that you took from the book, especially those that improved your game.

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      • I stopped catering my behaviour to get vagina, and started catering my behaviour to get more enjoyment and happiness in life. I learned the secret to love isn’t supplication, it’s appreciation.

        Most game is practice under a frame of supplication, hoping to get something in return.

        Now, I just appreciate vagina for what it is, and no longer do anything in hopes of getting vagina. I just do things that I enjoy doing.

        Co-incidentally, this lead to more vagina.

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      • “Game is only for people who can enjoy the process of game, and can actually enjoy the drama and are willing to take the risks that go with it.”

        This is why hookers don’t do it for me, personally. It’s like taking a helicopter to the top of a mountain. You still get to say that you’ve been there, but the climbing is half the fun.

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      • Climbing’s only fun if you enjoy it, and have time for it.

        Most girls aren’t worth the climb.

        There’s no real difference between a ONS and a hooker, other than with a hooker you don’t gotta give a shit about performance.

        Nowadays, if a woman isn’t willing to jump on my dick damn near immediately, I’ve already lost interest. I have better things to be doing than dealing with the infinite realm of female idiocy.

        Women have this tendency of making it damn near easy as fuck for a guy they actually want inside them to be inside them. When it’s not easy, I take that as a sign to move the fuck on because they’re already setting the frame for me to deal with more bullshit than I want.

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      • Some men prefer the helicopter ride. To each his own.

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      • on September 2, 2011 at 8:50 pm Betondo Fuchatuch

        X gets the Square.

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      • But here’s the problem with this: does it really make someone happy to engage in what you called “debauchery?”

        No matter what way you look at it, seduction is a zero-sum game. If you seduce a girl by using seduction community tactics, then someone else is not spending time with her. And while the editor will likely disagree, all seduction involves a significant amount of dishonesty and lying. Does anyone really think that Mystery wears such goofy hats and outlandish clothes for any reason other than seduction? Engaging in game means that she is spending time with someone who has calibrated his personality to the situation, rather than someone who is presenting an honest personality to the world.

        You may say that the girl wouldn’t choose to be with the other guy for whatever reason – he isn’t dominating enough, he isn’t attractive enough, or whatever. But to me, that doesn’t matter. I say that the other guy, provided that he isn’t a serial killer or a rapist, deserves the same amount of love and attention as do other, more “practiced” people. These guys who the editor continually puts down as “beta males” are mostly good people.

        “Pickup” is what sociologists call “a tragedy of the commons,” in my view. Antibiotic use is a good example of such a tragedy – people are cured from sinus infections by taking Z-packs, but resistance increases amongst the general population. What is best for the individual is not what is best for the society as a whole.

        Seriously, the ethics of pickup are lost in all the discussion about game. As with playing office politics, there are two choices to be made: to accept the system as it is and milk it to all it’s worth, or to live by example and make a change, however small, on the world. Most people reading this blog are probably so desperate for sex that they are willing to do anything to get it, but I disagree that showing up late, following routines, and bringing stupid props is ethical.

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      • Man. There’s dudes out there that get happiness from mutilating their own genitals.

        I think it’s insanity, but to them it’s true happiness.

        I don’t know what the fuck is going to make you happy.

        That’s your responsibility to figure out. I’m not even going to claim what makes me happy is going to make you happy.

        I just know what makes me happy.

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      • I think you missed the greater point, which wasn’t about happiness, but rather about ethics.

        Even if choosing not to participate in seduction makes you unhappy, I still believe that it is more ethical than participating in seduction. To what extent one is willing to sacrifice ethics for happiness differs amongst people.

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      • No. I got the point.

        That’s what works for you.

        What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for everyone else.

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      • Quint, please define “seduction”

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      • We don’t give a fuck about ethics, the greater good… Most of us have been burned, ignored, or rejected when we were dutiful, honorable beta males.
        This is a space for lost souls, you cannot redeem us with ethical pep talks. King A does a better job, and yet, he didn’t convince anyone.
        It’s a lost battle, give it up.

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 5:06 pm Marshall Lentini

        “What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for everyone else.”

        He really didn’t understand. Their failure, I suppose, is to place themselves in the context of “everyone else”. By continuing to seek the favors of white women at all, we work against ourselves, while the alphas bathe in a steady flow of pussy further spoiling the women.

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 5:08 pm Marshall Lentini

        “What works for you doesn’t necessarily work for everyone else.”

        In fact he unwittingly repeated your very point. What works in game ultimately works against other men. The pastoralist overgrazing the commons to his own advantage because he does not consider the long-term, collective problem in rationalizing that advantage.

        [Heartiste: I agree that it’s bad news for a modern prosperous society when the foragers catch up to the farmers in number. But I’m not society.]

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      • To re-iterate

        Your set of morals is what works for you.

        Not for everyone else.

        There is no good more important to anyone than their own “good”.

        There is no collective. There are only individuals who claim to belong to it.

        If my good goes against the good of society, then my morals have already deemed the society immoral. Why would I do anything to empower something I disagree with?

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      • @quintin3265:
        I will take you on straight on the ethics point. Ethics not based on reality are a fantasy, not a guide for action. Your beta “ethics” are misguided, they are based on a perception of reality that does not square with what’s actually out there. The ethics of pickup have not been worked out yet – care to try and project ethics based on the nature of women as revealed by game? Go at it, and I mean it sincerely.

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      • “No matter what way you look at it, seduction is a zero-sum game. If you seduce a girl by using seduction community tactics, then someone else is not spending time with her.”

        Wrong. Dead wrong. You are making the assumption that she will spend time with someone else if you don’t approach her. If only one woman decides to date you rather than staying alone then there is an improvement.

        Also you are ignoring the examples given here of how much many of the techniques, toned down, work wonders in LTR including marriages. The average Western raised man can learn a lot from the experience related here in how to improve his own relationship and BOTH wind up happier and there can be a substantial increase in sex.

        Even going with your assumption that the woman will be having the exact same amount of sex whether approached by alpha acting men or beta acting men if she is happier with time spent with the former there is still an improvement on her part.

        Not a zero sum game at all.

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      • Some women might not spend time with other men, but others will. The ratio probably isn’t 1:1, but it might be 0.8. That means that, on average, if I decided not to use seduction tactics, then 0.8 men who would otherwise not be loved will have someone pay attention to them.

        Perhaps “zero-sum” isn’t the right term to use. It might not be zero-sum, but it is probably very close to it.

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      • I think you have a very vague and twisted little notion about what “seduction tactics” are.

        Substitute “social skills” and “awareness of female communication habits” and see how your “ethics” hold up.

        You are advocating that most men act like retarded aspergergers syndrome dweebs, just so that people who don’t easily communicate with girls will be the majority of men, so that females will have no choice but to settle for what they don’t really want.

        You lazy fuck. Play the game or jerk off. Don’t try to convice every one to be as weak as you are. We won’t do that for you!

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      • I’ve got to back anonymoose and mrnotnot here…

        quintin3265: straight up, you’re a dickless ass clown.

        “No matter what way you look at it, seduction is a zero-sum game. If you seduce a girl by using seduction community tactics, then someone else is not spending time with her.”

        What does this even mean? You could say this about anything: Eating a turkey sandwich I made is a zero-sum game; when I’m eating it, someone else isn’t. Shithead.

        “And while the editor will likely disagree, all seduction involves a significant amount of dishonesty and lying.”

        Bzzzzt. Wrong answer fuck brain. This claim demonstrates your ignorance on this subject at an impressively retarded logarithmic scale.

        “Most people reading this blog are probably so desperate for sex that they are willing to do anything to get it, but I disagree that showing up late, following routines, and bringing stupid props is ethical.”

        Wow man. I smell some serious envy, self loathing and passive aggressive exposure of a sexless, pathetic quivering pile of jelly.

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      • I was going to respond to Quintin this morning but you guys have fisked him sufficiently well. Kudos.

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      • This sort of trash is why I don’t often visit seduction community forums.

        The seduction community preaches the virtues of acting like an “alpha male” – but some people seem to think that means trying to dominate every person he comes into contact with. In this case, it means turning a discussion where I was expressing general disagreement into vitriolic personal attacks. I certainly never called you any names. People like you say that the community is supposed to be about self-improvement, but many people improve themselves only in the ways necessary to get women, neglecting or worsening other parts of their personalities.

        Does it make you feel better to put down people?

        By the way, to the guy who was talking about aspberger’s syndrome: it’s not cool to make fun of people who have serious mental illnesses. They are people, just like you and me, and you and I can never understand what they are going through. There are people in this world who will never be able to lead normal lives because of diseases like aspberger’s syndrome. They spend their time in therapy and at doctor’s offices – and they certainly don’t need to be made fun of by people like you.

        My part in this discussion is done. I can’t believe how arrogant and disrespectful some of the people who supposedly practice “self-improvement” seduction techniques are.

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      • You are a monster of faggotry.

        GTFO.

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      • ***WANT A GOOD LAUGH?***

        Interestingly enough I clicked on felicia boy ‘quintin3265’s link. It takes you to this website at: http://www.lifecentral.info

        Clearly it’s him, the creator and programer of this retarded health scheduler thing.

        But here is the hysterical part: Click on the YouTube video and scroll to 3:55 and listen: “You can also see that I become angry for some reason on the days that I eat soy sauce or water chestnuts…”

        LOL

        The heckling and ripping of you and your arguments are justified. You asked for them when you posted your presumptuous and ignorant claims. Must of had too much soy sauce.

        BEAT IT NERD!

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  25. Women’s sexual peak is highest in their teens and early twenties. It gradually decreases over time just like it does for men. If an older woman is in a new relationship she may temporarily feel like she has a younger woman’s libido, but it won’t last.

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  26. it’s sad… i admit sinead does look really bad… like she had a hard, hard life bad but even so, she can’t want a man that a) lives in ireland -the same country she resides in b) loves his mother -to be assured that he can be nice and c) doesn’t use hair product- so he won’t make a mess of her linens and furniture?!?!? it’s harder than i thought i there… he requests seem simple even the anal request.. she wants sex right? she should be able to get it in the hole she prefers… At least

    on another note.. this concept of sexual prime… i do believe that you are mixing it up with genital/fertility prime.

    genital/fertility prime is the time usually late teens-mid 20s in which a person is most fertile.. it is purely biological

    sexual prime is a social construct defining how as one gets older, more comfortable with their body, likes and dislikes, cares less of what others think and begins to explore more that sex itself is more fulfilling and orgasmic! it is psychological

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    • “sexual prime is a social construct defining how as one gets older, more comfortable with their body, likes and dislikes, cares less of what others think and begins to explore more that sex itself is more fulfilling and orgasmic! it is psychological”

      LOL, nice try.

      Sexual prime = young, hot, tight.

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    • he requests seem simple

      taken individually, her requests seem simple. taken collectively, they’re ridiculous (to us men)….yet somehow not that surprising.

      you may not see the extent of her absurdity, but then again, most women wouldn’t.

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    • on another note.. this concept of sexual prime… i do believe that you are mixing it up with genital/fertility prime.

      genital/fertility prime is the time usually late teens-mid 20s in which a person is most fertile.. it is purely biological

      sexual prime is a social construct defining how as one gets older, more comfortable with their body, likes and dislikes, cares less of what others think and begins to explore more that sex itself is more fulfilling and orgasmic! it is psychological

      I see what you mean.

      In my teens when I was thinner, I wasn’t aware of my sexual attractiveness at all (I never had a boyfriend in middle school (or junior high) or high school. It wasn’t until college where guys started showing interest in me. Then again what changed was that high school was predominantly white (I’m black) and I then went to an HBCU.

      Now, even though I’m bigger than I was as a teen (currently trying to loose weight 😉 ), the best way I can put it is that I’m more aware of how attractive I can be to men than I was when I was younger. It’s not a shock when I get hit on as it was when I first went to college (I’m 27 now).

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    • shinead should just settle for a guy who likes fat white women that she can manipulate, boink then throw away like a half-eaten tootsie roll (not that she looks like she ever does, now)
      like a black guy

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    • on September 1, 2011 at 5:10 pm Marshall Lentini

      Wrong. Prime fertility begins well before “late teens”. Political bias against pubescent fertility. Mexican girls having children at 12 must all be freaks.

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  27. Fat white woman wants it in the ass? Call a black dude.

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  28. Sinead, should hit the gym, see a plastic surgeon, and get herself some young dudes. I believe that is the route older women should go. Keep yourselves looking fuckable and forget about the old dudes, relationships and love–and just get all the young BETA cock you can.

    [Heartiste: Fixed that for ya.]

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    • It may work until 50 years old, and still it would require pathetic attempts to hit on guys at the mall, or worse: at the club. Only experimented male players can handle rejection quite easily. The worst part is that you’re only gonna snag beta chumps with no options.
      You gotta save some money because when the late 50s show up and the last ounce of attractiveness fades, even betas will be revulsed and it will be time to cough up some gigolos money, or some regular trips to jamaica.

      Besides, only men and high-t misandrist cunts like yourself can handle emotional starving. Regular women are just gonna suffer from that lifestyle.
      You can’t compete, bitch.

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      • I just have to ask, if older women are so repulsive to you and your elk, why is my comment so venom inducing to you?

        [Heartiste: Venom inducing? It’s my style, baby! I’m having fun here. And in point of fact, it’s not the aging that induces my special brand of sadism; it’s the delusion.]

        And another thing, young women aren’t exactly tripping over each other to date and marry old dudes.

        [There are more (way more) younger women dating and marrying older men than the inverse.]

        Older men can’t compete with younger men, anymore more than older women can compete with younger women.

        [Incorrect. Your comparison is typical feminist dreck. Older man != older woman. A woman’s SMV is almost entirely contingent on her looks. A man’s SMV is a function of multiple variables, many of which older men tend to have more of than younger men, specifically status, power, resources and, for the truly talented, charm. And women aren’t as spellbound by looks as men are.]]

        Most of you are completely fucking delusional.

        [Did you write that while 300 cats licked your peanut butter covered vulva?]
        —-

        – and just get all the young BETA cock you can.

        [Heartiste: Fixed that for ya.]

        Heartiste,

        A young hard cock, is a young hard cock.

        [Funny how so few women really yearn to get into relationships with younger men..]

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      • The point heartiste is trying to make is not that age doesn’t matter to a mans SMV or sexual ability, rather that its far more sensitive for women. the reasons for this are many:

        Womens bodies in terms of hormones and metablism are far more sensitive to diet, toxins, disease, sun etc.

        This is compounded by the fact that men are more sensitive to the visual appearance of a female. Men are more about what they DO. Rather than how they look..

        So if we make a quick analysis, we can see we have women over 30 who its UNHEARD of to win miss world. However on the other hand we have every major boxing world title held by a man over 35(the best one 40 years of age), we have a 37 year old mr olympia, the previous two winners being 38 and 40 years old. We have hard hitting, massively powerful safeties and linebackers in the NFL like ray lewis and brian dawkins over age 36 and still dominating, britains former strongest man 45 and still competing in top level international level events. The examples are legion, but we could also take a look at the film or music industry and it would provide us with yet more evidence. The number of 35 year old plus male sex symbols is astounding, many of them not achieving such appeal until they hit the 30s.

        So sure you might not like men who appear old, but you are going to have to revise the male age limit because it is not like for like with the female. Because the fact is whilst women struggle to maintain a simple appearance (even with make-up+surgery), as well as their fertitlity, plenty of men are still maturing into full ability, mental and physical after age 30.

        Chances are you see older men every day who you find attractive, you just don’t question their age because you don’t feel the need to, even though they may happen to be 35-45 years of age.
        However when a man sees an older woman, even if she is absolutely stunning for her age and he recognises that, even if she gives him the hardest chub, he can usually tell shes a significantly older woman.

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      • meant to say heavyweight boxing title

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      • lol even male pornstars have longer careers….

        Rocco Siffredi, Peter north, ron jeremy, TT boy, Mr marcus, lex steele, wesley pipes… etc etc all of them over 40 and still smashing it out.

        not that they peform for a female audience.

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      • meanwhile jenna jameson who is a good 5 years younger than all of them is struggling to keep her face together.

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      • @the realist

        I totally get your point. However, the social stigma (that existed for centuries and there was no such stigma related to older men dating younger women) of older women dating younger men is almost most at an end. In addition, if older women woke up and stop worrying about the social stigma and how they have been socialized and stop waiting on older men to choose them. They would see that there is a big opportunity to mingle with younger men. There are young attractive beta males (E.g. Ashton Kutcher) who have been shelved by women in their age group, so what would they have to lose by hooking up with an attractive in-shape older woman short-term or a possible long-term relationship.

        I think that this group needs to seek each other out quickly. Moreover, later for the old dudes.

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      • I do not get why men are comparing themselves to and competing with women in who is more attractive and more desirable. Jesus, men these days are so emasculated and effeminate to the point of absolute sadness. Real men do not compete with women. Nevertheless, it is easier than having to compete with and compare yourselves to young virile men because you know there is no way you could compare or compete them. Women are easier targets.

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      • I used to prefer older women when I was in my twenties. I dated from early thirties all the way up to age 48. I’d even grow quite infatuated, or more.

        But such pairings are unstable. It’s good training for a young man to hang with older women. When he needs that training.

        After a while a man will take on the father role, and want younger women.

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      • I don’t think dating a younger guy is a smart thing to do if you want a partner for life – Demi will hit the menopause in three years or so and I’m sure Ashton won’t be happy with that. If they divorce, Demi will be lonely for the whole third or even a half of her life :S

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      • @mrnotnot

        I know there are plenty of men in their twenties who admire older women. I am in my mid-thirties and I am hit on by men in their twenties and teens every damn day (And I might take one of them up on their offer a date one day but not just yet).

        [Heartiste: Any horny teen will stick it in your wet hole, but that doens’t mean they find you attracitve. Or attractive enough to date more than five seconds.]

        Therefore, I know the deal. There have been many handsome Hollywood types, who have been married to and dated older women, when they were in the twenties.

        [You are delusionsal. Nearly every male star is married to, or dates, younger women. Now maybe they fucked around with some old braod in their heady youth, but you can bet taht was a one-off thing. Any port in a storm and all that.]

        Of course, those relationships have and had short shelf lives. People who are close in age tend to fare much better in the end.

        [No. The strongest, i.e. happiest, relationships I know are ones where the man is significantly older than the chick.]

        Older women are not delusional when it comes to the reality of those relationships not enduring in the long haul but for a while, they can have the company of a young virile man lavishing them with attention (and sex)for whatever reason.

        [Nope. They are delusional if they think they’ll get the attractive young men. At best, they’ll get some beta leftover with blue balls who sees an easy lay. You might get lucky and score ahorny frat boy for a night, but you know he’ll bolt as soon as the younger competition shows up.]

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      • @Maya

        Having a man isn’t everything, and besides most of us (men and women) are going to end up alone anyway. That’s life.

        I have said way too much here. It’s a wrap.

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      • Liza, I don’t know … For me, having a man IS everything. I won’t end up alone. If I do, I’ll be very very sad. But that’s life, you’re right. Already now I cry for 10 minutes a day because I’m single and I’ve heard it only gets worse.

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      • Agreed Liza. You are only alone if you choose to see it that way. I have accepted that family and friends and CATS (lol) will fill the void of having a mate and kids if its not in the cards for me. people seem to forget this. Your family nor cats will never leave or forsake you – friends…well good ones won’t either. They’ll love you unconditionally. In the meantime, while they can’t fill the sexual needs, women who still have the ability need to get that fulfillment as much as possible before the real wall comes knocking. LOL

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      • Heartiste,

        [No. The strongest, i.e. happiest, relationships I know are ones where the man is significantly older than the chick.]

        That’s interesting. So you think this is the safest way to go if I want to have a happy marriage? What age difference is the best – according to your observations?

        [Heartiste: Forget age. You commit to the man you love. You’ll know it when you feel it.]

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      • Maya, 10 to 15 years difference is optimal. No guarantees, but if YOU don’t screw up along the way, your chances would be relatively decent at having a good marriage. I suppose that you took to your heart the advice here about not letting go and take a care of yourself. But first make sure that you tame your skeletons in your closet.

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      • Cadnerd,

        yes, I also feel that 10-15 years difference would be optimal at this stage – although it’s a bit risky to have a husband that older – he can die much sooner :S The second problem is how to find a man like this – they are all married already.

        [Heartiste: Forget age. You commit to the man you love. You’ll know it when you feel it.]

        What if I love someone who just “likes” me and I commit to him but after a few years he realizes he doesn’t love me anymore … I know girls whit such experience – the guy they loved become bored after a few years (or even one night) and broke their hearts.
        Also, what if I fall in love with someone younger than me? Is this still safe at this age? I’m asking this in details because I feel I don’t have time now to just “listen to my heart” – it’s way too risky. I think I need to make a rational decision and avoid falling in love with some player. Actually, I can’t believe you gave me this advice – it’s incredible that you suggest me to follow my heart while knowing how selfish and deceitful some men are.

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      • Maya, no matter what you do, there will be some risks involved, that’s life. Safe boundary–your man shouldn’t be under 29, men really mature about that age.

        Can’t tell you where to locate your man–without knowing what country you live in, I can only offer general advice.

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      • I just realized I am 4 years older than Sinéad O’Connor, can´t sing, don´t have her money or fame…

        … but, I don´t need to make a fool of myself by begging in a blog for someone to fuck me.

        I have a lovely 17 y/o girlfriend who loves me and loves my two children.

        Wow, I guess I can compete with younger men after all.

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    • Sorry heartiste but Liza is right. Plus I don’t see what’s so wrong with Beta cock when you are a womanin your 30’s and 40’s. Let’s put it in perspective here: if a woman is still reasonably attractive/fuckable in her 30’s and 40’s what is so wrong with getting some young Beta cock? if dude looks reasonably attractive and has a functioning penis that he can do some work with, then mission accomplished no? If the end mission is for a woman to get her sexual desires met, then no harm no foul screwing around with a young Beta who has a cock. Plus one might get lucky and come up with a Beta who doesn’t even know how good his stuff is. LOL

      As long as a woman is not in denial about her ability to compete for top alphas with younger women, then i don’t see the issue.

      [Heartiste: The problem is most younger men, just like older men, don’t find older women attractive. The best an aging cougar will do is some desperate horny beta schlub or drunk frat boy dumping a fuck in her and then dumping her as soon as a younger girl shows up.]

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      • heartiste you can’t speak for all younger men. Many young guys are more forgiving about age and less forgiving about looks. If a woman looks old and crusty and beat up, he will not hit it. some younger guys simply go by the physical attractiveness level of a woman regardless of her age. if she meets his standards physically, he’ll give her the D. Of course not all young guys, but enough do.
        I agree that women in 30’s and 40’s should not expect marriage and kids with Alphas.

        Also, I agree that a woman has to be realistic in that she may not get the kinds of commitments she wants from a younger guy she is sleeping with. As long as she keeps this reality in the back of her head she should be fine. But a woman is not road kill in her 30’s and 40’s. After a certain point I think women do have to make a choice and go with what individual options she has. this will be different for every woman but ultimately the goal is the same – get some D and fulfill your life in other ways that can replace a LTR or marriage or kids.

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      • “Many young guys are more forgiving about age and less forgiving about looks.”

        No. Many young men, actually, many men period, will screw just about anything if it holds still long enough. Jokes about the crack of dawn not being safe, any knothole in a tree, etc. aren’t too far off of the mark. The news recently had a guy being caught screwing a rubber raft. They are not choosing to be with an older women. It is only that this is the only woman they can get at that moment.

        Given the choice most of them would choose someone younger/in better shape. Whereas with women the same does not appear to be true. There is a significant number of young, attractive females who prefer relationships with older (10-15 years) men.

        Just look around you. Most people don’t even batt an eye over a man marrying someone 10 years younger. But a woman marrying someone just 5 years younger starts the tongues wagging.

        And don’t let yourself be fooled by the college pinko “it is the evil European capitalist system that teaches people to be this way.” It is universal among all humans.

        [Attempt at troll warding] We are talking here about ceteris parabis comparisons. Everything about the two choices being the same except for age. Not “some men prefer a rich shapely 45 year old over a 20 year old welfare blob.”

        Life isn’t fair. About the best you can do is hope that it is occasionally unfair in your favour.

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      • I can’t speak for other women my age, only myself. At this point in my life I still attract men younger and my age. Whether they are only trying to talk/sleep with me b/c they have nothing else or anyone else to do at that moment means nothing to me at this point in the game. If they are reasonably attractive and willing, my mission/goal is to get laid. THAT’S IT. I’m not looking for a hot alpha to marry me and have his kids. I’m not even looking for marriage at this point. If a LTR happens great, if not no biggie either I can accept it if its just not in the cards.

        I can also accept that I wasted MOST of my youth/beauty being overweight and unmarketable in the dating/mating arena. No one’s fault but my own. But I have a right just like any other human to try to start over the best way I can and that is what I am doing.
        I am realistic and able to keep things in perspective regarding MY INDIVIDUAL SITUATION.

        People can use all kinds of formulas and generalizations, but i walk in my shoes everyday and know what my potential is based on my own experiences day to day.

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      • on September 1, 2011 at 5:14 pm Marshall Lentini

        You are black.

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      • When I was in my early 20s I occasionally banged the older woman, me and a few buddies would occasionally hook up with cougs IF (and only if) they were hot (ie. the polar opposite of the 2nd sinead pic) and looked like viable shags. We were young & foolish, and did it for the sake of hoisting up a flag on mt. cougenstein. These days we have more sense and I probably wouldn’t touch it with yours. I believe no sane young man would actually date an older woman, however as far as I see from the world around me older guys have no problem in commitment from a younger girl.

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      • Well all I can say is worry about you and what you like. The fact is there are still plenty of younger guys willing to dish the D to older gals and no amount of denying this will change that reality. I really don’t care about what older men get or like since they are not my mission in life.

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      • Indeed, testosterone can make a guy stick into anything. But getting a relationship, that’s a tad more difficult.

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      • I understand this. But I am talking sex only.

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      • Neecy … your hamster needs to be clamped.

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  29. *Yoles’* hamster is hilarious right now.

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  30. @Lara

    As usual you get it right.

    I think people confuse a woman’s sexual desires with their greater willingness to experiment as they age. Older women know that to attract men they cannot afford to play coy, for otherwise the man might as well go for a younger woman – the man always trades off youth and beauty for quicker sex. The older woman then begins to enjoy what she is doing sexually (‘hey Anal is great after all!’) and confuses this with being, as O’Connor did ‘in her sexual prime’. In these circumsatnaces ‘sexual prime’ is code for ‘I will do anything a man wants if that will get me any male interest’.

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  31. The picture becomes even more revolting when you compare it with a picture of Sarah Palin, who is nearly three years older and has had one more child.

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  32. A man who can handle his children well should be able to put some of that experience to good use with women.

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  33. This is just hilarious. Many hot women think they’ll be young and hot forever. Time marches on, and all of us get less attractive. The flipside is Madonna. Stringy/sinewy/ugly and outshone by her daughter (herself no beauty but a teen), Madonna has various boy-toys of mixed ethnicity she picks up. Leann Rimes, she of the starvation diet, is not fat but not really that hot either, because she’s older.

    No diet, plastic surgery, “treatment” or anything else will push back the ravages of time and allow a woman the sexiness she had at 17, or 25, or even 30, when she’s pushing 50. Let alone over it.

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  34. Two words: Stevie Nicks….

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  35. While its deplorable the decline of a woman’s beauty, does anyone seriously think that if the magic youth pill were to appear tomorrow restoring youthfulness, skin, tightness and vitality most of these bitches arrogance and dismissivness would not return?

    Old age happens to currently be for most of these bitches the only way any kind of perspective or introspection may and I repeat MAY occur

    Game Game & only Game

    Every time

    All the time

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    • She doesn’t seem to be displaying much introspection and perspective. Which is why Heartsie posted this, I believe.

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    • “may” ??!?
      You are too optimistic. Accept women for the wonderful dumb creatures they are and revel in nature’s magnificience.

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  36. If I wanted to trek through a dank forest and hack away at thick underbrush with a machete while the stench of rotting carcass meat singed my nostril hairs, I’d sooner travel to the Amazon than Sinead O’Connor’s ass.

    Classic.

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  37. Hey, women get old and ugly, men get old and ugly too (yes, I know old and ugly men can pull a lot easier than old and ugly women, at least if they’re rich/successful/have what you lads call Game).

    Sinead was a exceptionally pretty girl and exceptionally pretty girls get away with a lot of crap if they are that way inclined. Men gaze enraptured, ignore mad talk and bad behaviour, then much much later they complain that they didn’t know the woman they got involved with/married/had a kid by was a headwrecker. Please. They would have, if they’d actually taken notice of anything except her looks.

    Other women are also often afraid to call exceptionally pretty women out on eejitry, for fear of being accused of being plainer, jealous, or both. So exceptionally pretty eejits (unlike many of the rest of us common or garden eejits, who don’t benefit from the same level of crap tolerance) never grow up, or learn.

    I think Sarah Palin probably suffers from the same problem, she gets away with more than she rightly should because she is pretty; to do her justice, she seems to have the savvy to know that her appeal is mostly based on looking good.

    On a slightly different point – I’ve never quite understood why this blog is so hung up on female ageing; it is not like there are not new young women reaching maturity all the time, why not just focus on them and ignore the ones who are past their prime rather than talking about them all the time – after all, isn’t it the premise of this blog that a man with game should have his pick of the new fresh young things – he doesn’t need to scare them into marriage (or any long-term relationship) with horror stories about ageing? And if you want to be cruel, isn’t the cruellest thing you can do to a solipsistic ageing woman simply to ignore her?

    Sinead’s singing was always her other redeeming feature and for those of you who like her music I believe she’s still in good voice and has another album coming out.

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    • You’re missing the point. The point of this blog is cruelty. Of which I derive great pleasure. To see others suffer is fun. Of course it should be noted that we live in an age of male expendability and female vanity. Considering the implications of this backdrop, we shan’t be surprised to witness the vulgarities of a backlash. The world is literally choking on female narcissism. A little payback now and again is required.

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      • What a sad life you live.

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      • From a man’s point of view, it sounds like a wonderful life.
        Ignore the shrew, and keep it up ,bro.

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      • I just don’t think it’s wonderful having that much hate in your heart. This goes for either sex.

        Besides, I don’t even think Heartise actually hates anyone himself.

        [Heartiste: Hate is as natural as love.]

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      • Hate is one thing, delicious sadism is another. I think Neil Hansen has the latter…

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      • Heartiste: Hate is as natural as love.

        I didn’t say it was unnatural.

        [Heartiste: Then why the hate for hate? It’s fun. You should try it sometime. Oh wait… you already are. heh.]

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      • Who says I “hate the hate”? It’s normal for people to hate things and people, but to do so to the point of it being “fun” and pleasurable is something else entirely. Not to mention deriving fun out of seeing people suffer. I don’t derive fun or pleasure from hating something.

        [Heartiste: What is good in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their internet commenters.]

        Now of course, if someone deserves what’s coming to them for treated others badly, then I can understand Neil’s POV.

        I just don’t think it’s healthly if it’s a regular thing that he feels.

        [Define healthy in a way that includes the shit-eating grin one gets when exacting sweet revenge.]

        Perhaps Emma is on to something.

        [My pole! heh.]

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      • Such slander, Heartiste! I’m not a cheater.

        [Heartiste: Yet.]

        >:^(

        [ |-} 8========> ]

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      • Hah. Don’t be so sure 🙂

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      • Hate is, by and large, a male domain. It’s why the world is practically on fire; why people are starving to death all over the globe. Men love to kill and be violent. Men are responsible for the shit in the world, period.

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      • No food for ya, trollie today, I hope.

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    • Daedalus: For me, it’s a part of inner game. Knowing that the very attractive young woman you are talking with is going to hit the wall in 5 to 7 years takes her right off the pedestal, at least as far as you are concerned. This is a fact, not something you have talked yourself into. She senses this, and wonders why you are not the same as all the other drooling men who are mesmerized by her beauty.

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    • on September 1, 2011 at 9:22 am The Anti-Gnostic

      The point is women better get married and get pregnant and stay married rather than spend their 20’s in the hamster pack going to grad school and chasing men at least three levels above their paygrade. Because the back end of this particular delusion called feminism is a lonely, brutal place.

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    • mmmkay…
      *backing away sloooowly*

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    • I didn’t realize that Sarah Palin was also trawling for asscocking. Do tell.

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  38. On her blog, she said that she had interesting applicants (one was a kinda player who had another girlfriend pregnant). Fuck that shit.
    Many good looking or even rich betas will fall for her crap.
    They’re giving us a bad rep. Old hags and aspiring cougars will keep projecting and assuming that fame, money, power, and fucking “maturity” are attractive for men.

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    • Betas and whiteknights are the scourge of the real man’s world. I came out with some sharp but true comments on female ageing (all were talking about how their wife pussywhips them and runs their lives) at an all male business dinner, the guy in his late 20’s to my left said, sounding annoyed “I bet you’ve never said any of those things to a woman” *facepaln*

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      • *facepalm*

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      • Maybe they just were didn’t like you criticizing their wives. It’s like the old, “I can say something bad about my mother, but you better not.”

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      • Well, the guy who is the best looking and most alpha laughed hard at a particular comment… I’m sure he’s got the hottest wife though and keeps her in check (ex figure skater and gymnast)

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      • Ya. Girls and their ilk on this blog often say “I bet your girlfriend never reads what you write here!”

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      • Ya. Girls and their ilk on this blog often say “I bet your girlfriend never reads what you write here!”

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  39. Oh my GOOOOOOD!!! Heartiste you are so mean. LOL And yet I am laughing my ass of at three things:

    (1) the title of this thread

    (2) The picture of the fox hitting the wall

    (3) This: “If I wanted to trek through a dank forest and hack away at thick underbrush with a machete while the stench of rotting carcass meat singed my nostril hairs, I’d sooner travel to the Amazon than Sinead O’Connor’s ass.

    LMAO!

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    • Shame on you Neecy! Do you not recognize Wile E. Coyote when you see him?

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      • *bowing head in shame* oops! Oh is that who the unfortunate wall victim is in the pic? NOOOO! LOL. I’m sorry but when I saw that picture i damn near choked on my iced tea I was laughing so hard.

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      • Neecy, just horrifying. WTF? She just…

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      • I knowwww. Poor Sinead. She was actually quite stunning. had beautiful big green eyes, a small face and could pull of a fade like none other. it just looks like she gave up. *shrugs* I’m all about a woman having high self esteem, but she did put herself out there. I mean at a certain point we gotta be somewhat humble. LOL I am *really* hoping and thinking that she was being sarcastic and people think she’s serious.

        [Heartiste: Humility is as foreign a concept to the modern Western woman as linear algebra and backhoes.]

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      • What are “backhoes”? LOL

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      • Black hoes who take it up the ass. Learn to google new words FFS.
        (And FFS, don’t ask me what FFS means).

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      • qed…

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      • “qed…”

        Haha, she probably didn’t even realize either.

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      • Now, now, Matador. Backhoe is primarily a US specific term. In Britain they are called by a brand name – JCB. Fairly daft as JCB makes all sorts of equipment and there are plenty of other brands.

        Also consider Neecy may have been ironic. In which case the joke is on you.

        Actually dating a Western woman who OWNS a backhoe. Some women live in reality… Yeah, yeah, I know. The plural of anecdote is not data and finding a woman that understands the source of food is not a grocery store is very rare in larger US cities.

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      • its a shame, but you know, you black milfs will have an even ruffer time with all your tattoo ink

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      • HUH? Who has a lot of tatooe ink? Not me or Liza for sure. I think the sleeves and big tatts should be for the boys. Nothing wrong with a small tatt here and there for a woman, but too big or too many just doesn’t seem feminine to me.

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      • you sound like a girl with abundant femininity, yet know how to be strong when you need to

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      • A woman can afford to be strong in two distinct situations ONLY:
        – Protecting her kids
        – Fighting for her man against a female rival

        Every other display of masculine strength by a woman out of these contexts (eg arguing with men over some bullshit) is unappealing.

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      • How about being emotionally resilient/morally strong/independent in your head in general? Can’t imagine that being bad. A woman can be very strong, as strong as she wants. Arguing with the man is not a diplay of strength, IMO, just a display of cantankerousness. If she’s trying to compete with the guy, it’s no longer strength. Strength can be a quiet quality. Am I wrong?

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      • No. You’re not wrong. Kind of a spirit of wild west in 19th century. If you can keep your hamster well caged and follow this rule set, you’ll be good.

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  40. She looks like Joe Pesci

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  41. Great game advice, but maybe you should put a warning on that link to the Chinese torture thing.

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  42. All those arm sleeve and neck tattoos are going to haunt women sooner then they think. Once their skin loosens a bit it will look like a group of nursery school kids attacked them with crayons.

    Tattoos on beautiful women don’t hurt their value much, but on older women nothing screams washed-up cum dumpster more than multiple tattoos that are faded and stretched out.

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    • Imagine the old folks’ home, in 20-30 years time, for the current generation of tattooed, plastic-enhanced women. All that faded ink and warping silicon; the stuff nightmares are made of.

      This girl I met recently has a couple of pretty incredible tattoos that look really good on her, especially one that runs the length of the adonis belt on both sides. However, once she hits the wall those things gon’ get ugly. WHICH IS WHY YOU GOTTA GET ‘EM IN THEIR PRIME.

      At least as a guy your tattoos will age a bit more gracefully- and help to maintain an ‘air of mystery’ about your past. Who knows, they may be the springboard you need to a bit of humpty-dumpty in the back of the Bingo room. An impressive feat for an aged person.

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      • Jesus. The thing about her is that those are NEW tattoos yet they still look awful on her clumpy skin. Imagine how 30 year old tattoos will look.

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      • The underlying muscularuture isn’t really the problem- it can be maintained pretty well with both exercise and artifical hormones- hell look how good Jack La-Lane’s and Stallone’s body’s look/ed in their “golden” years.

        I think that within 5-15 years time we’ll be growning sheets of new collagen and skin from stem cells; surgeon’s will strip off the old layers and a attach a brand new one. Older women will rejoice in a return to the appearence of their youth… only to find that they will still be single because there was no corresponding increase in the quantity of alpha males and their standards remain rediculously high.

        Also- predict further fall in the birthrate as young fertile women will have to compete with older infertile refurbished models for the eligible men.

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      • Stallone is juicing though.

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      • Sign me up for the juice when I get older- I have no desire to go through life as the shambling husk of what was once a man. I can avoid that fate in this day and age- and I will.

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      • Yeah, think of Abraham Simpsons stretching his skin to show his Flying Hellfish tattoo

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      • I have the strangest boner right now…

        But seriously, they aren’t even tasteful, artistic, or aesthetically pleasing tattoos. I like something bold like the following – http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Ikxd43mI3Hk/TdvEe9620rI/AAAAAAAAD9M/i4OcbCTvC1E/s1600/Back%25252Btattoo.jpg – but it only flows nicely on young, supple skin.

        That granny should be wasting her pension money on those boot slippers with the furry insides and zips up the side.

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      • I think it looks good on her. Grannies can have their own style 🙂

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    • Packaged Food has Use-by-Dates stamped on it.
      Women have tattoos stamped on them.

      There isn’t a whole lot of difference between the two.

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  43. I gotta stop eating my breakfast while reading these posts about aging women. That pic should have come with a warning!

    It’s the delusion of people like O’Connor that amuses me. It doesn’t matter how many times you tell yourself you’re at your prime, darling, your ship sailed a long time ago, and there ain’t no returning to port.

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  44. I dont know deep down I cant blame women for wasting their prime years chasing after alpha cock. After all what women wants to have kids with some loser beta when you can win the genetic jack pot with multiple alphas? This is one of the first time in history women get to freely choose the men they want, and theyd be fools to not take this opportunity, I know I would if i was a woman.

    But, in this case they should be grateful their bastard spawn survived to adulthood, and they succesfully passed on their genes with alphas in their prime years. These washed up cougars making demands on betas they ignored 20 years ago is hilarious to say the least. I don’t think they regret it too much though. 5 minutes of a alpha fucking you and raising his kid beats a lifetime with boring beta nerd Steve.

    This is why I think the only system that can work is where unmarried mothers and their bastard spawn receive no aid. If they die they die. That’s the whole reason women chose beta providers, for the stability. Now that there is no danger to a single mother or her child, no women in her right mind is going to choose a beta in her prime years. In fact in this day and age they’d have to be almost brain dead to pass up sex with alphas. Let’s face it, we have to put back the checks and balances that made beta providers attractive, otherwise women will chase alphas and ignore betas regardless of whether they are alone at 40 or not.

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  45. Gosh, how depressing. Although I know of older women who are still very attractive, my mother and my aunts on both sides are still looking good. I know an older lady at work who is very sweet and beautiful and she is always getting attention from nice older men. They give me hope… And my father says “a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman, no matter how old she gets”.

    [Heartiste: It’s a nice slogan to flatter cynical ears. But that doesn’t make it true.]

    Look at Michelle Pfeiffer, Elizabeth Hurley, Kristin Scott Thomas, Yasmin Le Bon, Juliette Binoche, Natasha McElhone etc etc…. they are all still stunning.

    [… for their age. Yes, Pfeiffer looks way better than the typical 40+ woman. But Pfeiffer still doesn’t look as good as she did when she was 20. And the gap is only going to grow.]

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    • The problem is that for every attractive women I see I always think, she looks good but she looked so much better at 19! Wish I could have seen her then! Applies to every and all…

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    • Pfeiffer’s got dick sucking lips.

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    • Using actresses and models as examples of women that age well is kind of pointless.
      These women’s livelyhoods rely on them looking good and they put a huge amount of effort and money into doing so.

      How many women out in the general population are able to hire dieticians, personal chefs, personal trainers, cosmetic surgeons, beauticians etc.

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      • *Huge amount of effort* is an understatement.

        Actors and Actresses need to look as perfect as they can possibly be.

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    • “Beauty is youth, youth beauty,—that is all
      Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know….”

      — Keats, paraphrased, “Ode on a [Geriatric Wall]”

      Youth is objectively attractive. The signs of youth are therefore contingently attractive depending on the status of the quality it is projecting or concealing.

      That means older women are, in the most important way, less attractive than their younger selves by definition. Women know this rock-solid law in their bones so well that they begin mimicking the flush of youth through cosmetics even when they are still young.

      While older women are not as fetching as younger ones, it is positively grotesque to catch the older ones in a lie about their age, desperately attempting to cover up the uncoverable signs of their maturity. Women can grow old gracefully. But the more she clings to a long-depleted youth, the more delusional and sad she becomes. That delusion piles upon the ugliness and amplifies it. Sarah Jessica Parker (who was never particularly attractive even in her springtime) and the whole SATC mentality are the greatest purveyors of this lie.

      We all grow old, and that makes a Dionysian cult of youth unsustainable. Is there anything more pathetic than a grandfather rockstar who thinks no one will notice his senescence? “Youth is wasted on the young.” To spend one’s youth on a ride that they think will never end is certainly the prerogative of the young, but without a hard quarterlife reassessment, it will lead to the most ugly juxtaposition that mankind is capable of producing: old people incapable of embracing the disadvantages (and advantages) of age.

      A woman who accepts, in thought and in deed, that she is not as beautiful as her younger sisters may not be objectively attractive, but at least she is not deliberately and artificially uglified well beyond what nature has deprived from her, like Sinead above. There is beauty in the contentment that accepts mortality. It’s a reminder where we are all headed. We can either spaz out and panic, or we can face it with courage.

      Rocking on the porch surrounded by infant grandchildren, or begging for anal: which of these is the more dignified practice of a woman of Sinead’s station?

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  46. Roissy, I love you man (no homo). Indeed, you are a humanitarian.

    What a great post.

    A tactical nuke right at the heart of the pulsating feminist ideology.

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  47. Schnade was, kind of, a doable piece.

    Pity the poor guys who rubbed-one out to an 80’s Madonna
    and now she looks like Medusa
    with no acting skills

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  48. g

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  49. on August 31, 2011 at 7:32 pm Rollo Tomassi

    Unapologetically borrowed from “The Difficulty of Gaming Women by Age Bracket”

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/the-difficulty-of-gaming-women-by-age-bracket/

    If you are prone to guilt, you might feel it when you inevitably dump a woman in this age range. Don’t. Remind yourself that her past is littered with her insouciant dumping of many beta men before you. You are merely an alpha agent of righteous karma.

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  50. I’ve seen some “normal” looking women even here in England in their mid 50’s who look better than Catherine Zeta at 41 (linked above). The problem is that %80 of beauty for women is just youth. Most women from 18-25 who are thin, have skin tight close and make up on will look hot…

    As women age they stop taking care of themselves… Usually they stop applying the make up, stop working out at all (even though they need to more than ever at an older age), and start eating the left overs of their children’s meals. As both men and women get older they take less care of themselves – whilst some men have the self awareness and wherewithal to notice this and to make an effort, few women do.

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  51. “saddled with bastard spawn” LOL

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  52. Mmm…that desperation in her want ad is so delicious I could eat it with a knife and fork. That level of pleading despair is a fine gourmet dish, fit to be savoured and relished. I just want to read that again so I can drink in her pain and giggle madly at her inner screams of denial. Yes, scream for me you worthless sow…scream and scream in your impotent rage. Your bellows of pitiful yearning for the butt rogouring of old only whet my appetite for the main course of those pathetic hags of my generation hitting the wall you have en masse. Then it will be a feast of the Dark Side while a pussy which is younger, tighter, and hotter ride my cock like it’s the fount of life itself. I can think of few things I anticipate more than this.

    But until then, cry some more!

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  53. She’s a mentally ill. Just listen to her first album “The Lion andthe Cobra.” Terrible beauty, indeed.

    I saw her in concert in 1991 at Merriwether Post Pavilion. She was jumping around the stage and her top slipped off her boobies.

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  54. Some of you tenderhearted sorts might be tempted to ask why I am torturing a poor woman who has to endure pain enough…

    Torturing a poor woman! I’m worried about you torturing your poor readers who had to look at that photo.

    I never really like Sinead O’Connor, her looks or her music. Nor her antics. I’m not surprised she’s become ugly so fast – lot of negativities rattling around. Like they say, it ain’t the years, it’s the miles.

    All women age. Some do it more (a lot more) gracefully than others. Girls, here’s a hint: if you want to hang onto your looks, marry a guy who falls in love with you while you’re still pretty. Treat him well, and make sure you never “let yourself go.” You’ll still age and your beauty will still decline, but as long as you don’t get fat or shrewish, your husband will alway see you through nostalgia-colored glasses. He’ll see you every day as you age, so the gradual decline will be nearly invisible to him. Today you don’t look any older than yesterday, and tomorrow you’ll look no older than today. So when you’re 45, he’ll still see the 25 year old you. He’ll mentally photoshop in your youth. So long as you never betray him (and don’t get fat), you’ll always be young and beautiful in his eyes. It’s the only way to hold onto your looks.

    Oh, but, when he sees you every day, it really needs to be naked. If he only sees your bare ass once a month, he’s going to notice it starting to sag…

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  55. she was a train wreck in her youth. Alpha cock chasing, got knocked up once or twice, cried about her pumps and dumps in interviews, railed at the Pope and Thatcher, sang about Mandingo and “black boys on bicycles,” and started her own one-woman schismatic church, with her as the Popess. Or something like that. Oh, there was also that shaved-head thing.

    But the video for “Nothing Compares,” with that genuine, spontaneous tear. Sublime. Her cover of Elton John’s “No Sacrifice” too.

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  56. It bears repeating:

    Men age like wine, women age like beer.

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  57. This is so sad. Sinead O’connor used to be my hero. Is there anywhere in this world that is not a freakin ‘market’? When did capitalism take over sex market?
    Would anyone in this world still love somebody for their soul???
    If fu*k is all you want, fu*k is all you get

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    • The way men develop love of the soul is through beauty. Hence the need for women to get married young. A man can develop love of a woman for her soul only if he had her when she was young and beautiful.

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    • Modern women don’t like lovey-dovey men – at least not till they are 35. Smart men adjust to this reality – foolish men undergo a lifetime of suffering in the name of love.

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    • Aristotle or Plato once questioned the same thing. He also noticed that love fades along with beauty.

      Both love and the soul are abstractions with no correspondence to any enduring reality.

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  58. there is something seriously wrong with this woman. all her instincts are numb and the way her body blew up indicates she must be on some sort of medication, probably anti-depressants.
    she’s a wrong example because she was never typical. she was too alternative, too boyish, border-line if not full on lesbian. we can state the obvious while comparing her pics, but the truth is 80% of men back then wouldn’t consider her hot. she definitely didn’t have to beg for sex, but it was probably her style to offer herself to men. and that is hardly ever a good idea.

    providing ‘difficult brown’ backyard maaaybe was cute, edgy and rebellious back in the day when she was practicing clubs toilet poetry, but now it’s just tragic.
    i predict suicide.

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    • Ack! I hope not. She never seemed to be a drug abuser so there’s no danger of a heroin overdose. Maybe OD on the prescription pills. She needs to find some peace in her life but I’d rather not see another unique music personality go down. I hope she gets it together, matures with some dignity, and focuses on her art rather than the nonsense.

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  59. on August 31, 2011 at 9:42 pm DevastatinglyFemale

    there is something seriously wrong with this woman. all her instincts are numb and the way her body blew up indicates she must be on some sort of medication, probably anti-depressants.
    she’s a wrong example because she was never typical. she was too alternative, too boyish, border-line if not full on lesbian. we can state the obvious while comparing her pics, but the truth is 80% of men back then wouldn’t consider her hot. she definitely didn’t have to beg for sex, but it was probably her style to offer herself to men. and that is hardly ever a good idea.

    providing ‘difficult brown’ backyard maaaybe was cute, edgy and rebellious back in the day when she was practicing clubs toilet poetry, but now it’s just tragic.
    i predict suicide.

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  60. Wow, what happened? There’s a Wikipedia pic of her from 2008 and, while obviously older, she was still fit and somewhat slender in it. Did she decide in 2009 to drown her sorrow in whiskey and Haagen Dazs? That’s a wicked wall she hit. Yikes.

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  61. Father time caught up with her hard. Can’t rip up a picture of the Pope and expect to get off with a slap on the arm and only a little cellulite. Nope its a full blown disaster she should have picked on Jimmy Swaggart instead.

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  62. I’m a lesbo blacksmith. I have amazing sex every night, and during the day too if I feel like it.

    Oh and I am fat.

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  63. It’s true — we women are less attractive and desirable as we age. As women, we benefit from accepting this fact, and working with the resources we’ve got. That means: 1) have a GOOD attitude about life – it starts here ; 2) LOVE men for who they are, don’t complain about what they are not, and appreciate masculinity for what it is; 3) CULTIVATE femininity (be receptive, nurturing, sweet, and pretty); 4) get enough sleep, eat healthy, and don’t drink/smoke — it ages you; 5) stay in SHAPE; 6) learn the fine art of pleasing a man, and be ready and willing to do it often.

    In summation, be a woman that you’d want to be with, if you were a man. And if you find someone you love, and who loves you, be THE woman you’d want to be with, if you were him.

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    • “In summation, be a woman that you’d want to be with, if you were a man”

      Since feminism hammers into most women’s heads the lie of sexual equality (i.e. the differences between men and women are only social) I’m afraid no women would actually do what it takes to understand what men want and love from women. Thus no [feminist] women would ever apply this sage advice. And they’ll all end up at 40+, looking like Sinead, and with similarly outrageous demands; their wants writing checks their bodies (heh) can’t cash.

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    • I don’t know what you look like, but you do get a few attractiveness points for this rational post. I hereby appoint you Woman-in-Chief.

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    • Extremely true, you took the words right out of my mouth.

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    • Michelle’s post should be engraved in stone.

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  64. She was always psycho. I saw her when she was at Lalapallooza in Denver one year in the mid 90’s. She came on and started giving a speech about how Irish Americans need to know where they come from. I tuned her out after that, especially as I’m an American with some Irish blood.

    Having no interest in being lectured to by a flake rock star, me and my buddy went to the second stage where we saw Coolio (which should give you an idea of the era), and we had a great time. Coolio and crew and that crowd knew what having a good show was all about.

    She’s mental. She got away with it back in the day. Not such a great look now.

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  65. Good post, though it wallows in cruelty a bit too much for my taste. PA had it right- it’s the miles, plus the crazy/delusion that were also clearly there in youth.

    Apart from the infamous SNL pope thing, I always think of this skit when I think of her:

    Guess the “Uncle Fester” line was 20 years premature.

    Even though it has Sting, Chris Rock and Mike Myers, Phil Hartman steals it as Frank Sinatra channeling John McLaughlan.

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  66. on August 31, 2011 at 11:35 pm Blush Response

    Ironically, I believe the very hyperbolic tone of this post is going to cause it to age rather poorly.

    It’s a bit embarrassing, really. Ripe fodder for haters to quote to make it seem like this website is bullying and misogynistic. Now obviously, haters are going to hate, but do we really need to make their job that much easier by being unnecessarily bellicose?

    [Heartiste: Concern troll.]

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    • I, for one, am very concerned.

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    • It’s interesting how this blog is just as critical of men as it is women, yet no one has ever called anything written here misandrist. Perhaps the writing is overly harsh for effect, but even so, criticism of women or a woman doesn’t equal misogyny, you’re just not used to it in our feminist dominated society.

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      • Hadn’t you heard? Misandry is not a real word, and can not be a real concept.

        /snark.

        On second thought – that wasn’t snark. I’ve heard educated and high IQ women explain it that way.

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  67. Just a thought, but I’m feeling that as ”game” becomes more mainstream, which it is, if anti game, or in other words throwing some beta salt into the mix, won’t become the dominant strategy. The truths behind the game won’t change, but I think methods will have to evolve. We’re not there yet, but I give it another 2 years, 5 tops, before the current stuff becomes what all the beta chumps are doing.

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    • I’ve had this same notion myself. Curious as to what the next milestone in the evolution of ‘game’ may be.

      Currently I feel a trend that is more about inner game; the ability to understand the concepts for their principle, yet apply them through improvisation and congruency with one’s own social reality. As opposed to a reactive outer game construct that over quantifies and/or linearizes pickup and seduction. While I firmly believe a good outline of process, strategy and tactics are important, I think that only focusing on memorizing lines, gambits and responses is rather novice- however it does serve a purpose.

      And I do give credit to mystery as I think his overall method (A – C – S) is a good starting point for one’s quest out of beta hood. It helps to recognize patterns and similarities in female behavior instead of a cloud of uncertainty.

      To some extent I agree there will be some change and adaptation needed as PU grows in the mainstream. I believe it will take longer however, perhaps 10 to 20 years before ‘betaness’ spice becomes needed in the mix to lay hot ass. I just don’t see enough men put forth the application and time commitment to game. I see too much empty boasting, inaction and alcohol infused idiocy among the masses of men.

      The bitch pedastal of hot young women will remain for some time…

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      • You need to show beta traits if the girl is looking for a long term relationship and is wary of a cad having a short term relationship with her instead. Or if the girl is looking for provisioning.

        There are player girls out there who are expert at using men and discarding them at their whim. These girls are easy to play, and you can even have LTRs with them. Or MTRs at least.

        And of course the girls trolling for that serious boy can also be easily manipulated to have MTRs with, instead of giving them that long LTR they say they want.

        That’s when you need the beta bait and switch.

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      • Some examples of beta bait and swtich I’ve done with girls I’m gaming:

        Ignore, tease, cocky-funny, then out of the blue send email with link to a favorite song.

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      • Agree. After sexual dominance has been realized of course, a lil splash of betaness here and there is healthy way to establish LTR; if that is the objective.

        Walawala- I like the suggestion, I have a perfect candidate for it, I’ll execute tomorrow.

        Also in re to music I always like to anchor a song to the girl and make it become “our song.” Works very well on younger women, but most in general. For example I’ll make the girl plug her iphone/ipod into my car stereo and play a fav song of hers…over and over again. Works great on dates when bouncing to new location in the car. I always mix it with playful kino and quick touches to the tit, puss and inner thighs…get her laughing/giggling while listening etc….then later in the week u can recall the song with her via txt or whatever, chances are she’ll associate the reminder with fun and you.

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    • I was just thinking about this today.I am this close to tell this hot, smart and incredibly independent girl that I really like her but that I won’t do any of the well proven manipulation (then maybe outline a few classic moves like push and pull) to get her – that is below my standards. I would also go to point out that I don’t care for any relationship based on drama anymore. I think this can be a MASSIVE DHV: play under my rules or no play at all.

      Of course, it helps by the fact that I am at a top tier business school, paid for by one of the most prestigious firms with an offer to make more than 90% of the class when I return…

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    • Well, to a certain extent, “game” for betas (e.g. SMV 6-7 males) does what make-up, plastic surgery, and being well-dressed does for an equivalent woman. It’s a way to simulate a slightly higher SMV.

      But then there are elements of game that are not superficial – if the Beta actually becomes more confident and able to dominate social interactions, he really will become “more alpha” as opposed to a guy running scripts who’s merely simulating. Just like a woman who works out and drops 20 pounds really does become more attractive, unlike a woman who stuffs herself carefully into a girdle, or pancakes on the makeup.

      Now, to a certain extent, “alpha” is a relative thing – this guy is more socially dominant than that guy – and so there’s an element of zero-sum involved. Not every guy can be an alpha.

      On the other hand, female beauty is relative too. This woman is more beautiful than that woman.

      But as long as a guy is alpha enough to produce the tingles, who cares? He’ll still get the irl.

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    • Game will change as soon as female nature changes. Which is to say never.

      If a hundred years of feminism couldn’t change female nature, a small social phenomenon (much smaller than it seems on high-concentrate websites) like pick-up won’t either.

      Also — see A.B. Dada’s comment below. It seems 1) the basic truths just aren’t sinking in and 2) those who think they have mastered the basics are largely fooling themselves. They have adopted new habits, sure, and are satisfied to call a cheap imitation “game.”

      Finally, a “mainstream” where men can freely act like men will be a better world all around for betas, women, children, and small animals. The trickery necessitated by feminism is distasteful but unavoidable in this atmosphere. We will be more consonant with our own natures when we no longer have to rely on deception so much, when it will be acceptable for women to openly worship manliness, rather than furtively and against her “better judgment.”

      It’s the feminist and her bastard mutant son, the beta male, who are the outliers of history. Bring on the extinction of the beta. Even if it makes game a relatively more competitive pursuit.

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  68. She should be able to hit it with Chaz Bono….Ewww definitely not a pay-per-view.

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  69. Michelle above is on the right track. There are things a woman
    can do to greatly mitigate the blows of aging (but not nullify them).

    As per Michelle, have a good attitude! Realize that men will put up
    with a lot of shit from you only while you are young and very hot.
    Learn to be NICE!

    The plan of marrying a high-ranking provider beta should be
    SERIOUSLY considered! He will most likely put up with the
    fact that you are aging with him! But do it as early as practical.

    Physically, there are lots of things that can be controlled. Among
    which:

    DON’T GET FAT! (has written extensively on this, from time to time).

    Workout in the gym helps – even beyond keeping the weight down,
    but is not absolutely necessary. An active lifestyle can compensate.
    Vide Sarah Palin.

    Work on make-up, but DON’T overdo it. Great makeup should look like
    you are hardly wearing it. See Denise Rich around the Clinton pardons
    of her ex-husband. This takes skill and/or time and money.

    DON’T get tattoos, especially ones visible, big, bold etc. What can look
    cute on a 20 y.o. (almost anything looks cute on a 20 y.o) looks grotesque
    on a 45 y.o.

    STAY AWAY from direct sunlight, and/or use plenty of UV-blockers.

    Dress stylishly, but on the conservative side. You are not a model
    for a fashion house!

    Develop some interest(s) you can talk about, preferably ones that are
    predominantly but far from exclusively male. Politics or religion can work.
    But DON’T TALK about your self-improvement plans. And DON’T complain
    much about the rough deal life (ex-spouses, boyfriends, whatever) have given
    you. (BTW, much of this applies to men too, except go for interests where
    there are at least 50% women).

    Again, think Sarah Palin. Think Denise Rich. (You don’t have to like them!)

    Thor

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    • “STAY AWAY from direct sunlight, and/or use plenty of UV-blockers.”

      Much of what you say is good advice but this is not.

      Vitamin D is critical to avoiding cancer, maintaining good health, and resisting the effects of aging. Vitamin D is created on your skin when you sunbathe. People need to go out in the middle of the day 3 times a week during the 6 months of the year(in USA) when UVB rays hit the earth. In USA this is centered around summer, and UVB peaks between 10am and 2pm.

      They then need to make sure they don’t shower with soap for at least a day and maybe two, so they don’t wash off the vitamin D before it gets absorbed through the skin.

      Avoid sunburn but do get out into the sun.

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  70. A couple of more things: Stay away from drugs. This includes keeping
    even the legal ones to a minimum, such as smoking. drinking and
    – yes – acetaminophen in all its forms (paracetamol to those who live
    outside of North America).. It is a liver killer and can
    ruin or kill you, particularly in combination with alcohol.

    “Eating healthy” is probably a good idea, but there is little consensus
    on what it means. Getting plenty of antioxidants (from food or pills)
    is probably a good idea too, but there is little consensus here too.

    Get plenty of sleep. Continuous shortage of sleep will mess up your body,
    and can kill you, as it interferes with the immune system and can bring
    on infectious diseases and even cancer.

    Again, all the above is good advice to men as well as women.

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    • I am wondering if drinking is bad more because it leads to smoking than for any impact it has on one’s skin. But Jared Leto’s got the market on youthful looks cornered and he’s clean as they come, apparently.

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  71. To all you kids under the age of about 34, yes, there was a time in America when the culture was actually polarized about a brooding white singer ripping up a picture of the Pope.

    And then the rock era died and was replaced by the rap era.

    The idea of a self-serious white singer being able to provoke any kind of cultural uproar now is pretty laughable.

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  72. It sure is instructive. Hope women see those “then and now” shots of O’Connor and learn from them.

    I have three sisters who are older than O’Connor, by 2, 5 and 7 years, respectively. None did drugs, they are light drinkers, they are good at taking care of themselves and they have stable personalities with good attitudes. As a result, while they clearly don’t look as good as their younger selves, they still look way better than O’Connor. I think’s it possible they’ll still look better 5 years from now than O’Connor does today.

    I sure hope more younger women get the memo my sisters did. Be feminine, have a good attitude, never act entitled, marry reasonably young, marry well, take good care of both yourself and your husband, be a good mother and you will have the comfort of your husband and your family in your old age as my mother does and my sisters will. Far better fate than to be doomed to playing the rationalization hamster with your cats…

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  73. ‘Six months later, he did contact me. It turned out he’d seen some other women when he saw me and gone on to have brief relationships with them. When those relationships failed, he came back to me’

    Payback’s a bitch, ain’t it?

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  74. Sinead is a great artist. Faith and Courage was her best work.

    Too bad she laments her celibacy, it has its own pleasures. There are more women than not who are celibate and, even though they’re aware it’s different from the norm, enjoy their lifestyle.

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  75. For some reason this post reminds me of this:

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  76. must be the gratuitous violence.

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  77. Is this why so many old hags force themselves on undarage boys?

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    • you know, testosterone is an amazing drug. Enough to make a guy jump into a machine gun nest or bang some incredibly ugly bitches.

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  78. on September 1, 2011 at 3:55 am Green Gangrene

    Someone link this post to Sinead The King Swampthings

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  79. …. nothing compares

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  80. on September 1, 2011 at 4:44 am Ricardo di Matteo

    Here’s a good article in the Mail by Liz Jones, which confirms many of the points put forward by this blog.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2031585/One-Day-film-Think-youve-The-One-Or-just-settled-Any-One.html

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  81. Raise your hand if you feel sympathy for her.

    When she was younger, it’s not like she didn’t know that having a bastard and getting old would destroy her SMV. SHE CHOSE THIS.

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  82. Sinead didn’t hit the wall. She ate the wall and went back for thirds.

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  83. What is particularily tragic (hilarious) about O’Connor, is that she is still issuing a check-list of her demands, even though her SMV has dropped from high(ish) to zero. Sure, there will be some guys who’d have a go, but only to be able to say ‘I slept with an ex-pop-star’ – and then presumably rubbish her. The Queen is deposed but no one is required to take notice of her decree. Some women age well; she didn’t, yet men of her age (Depp, Pitt) are still desirable. Women claiming that 40 is the new 20 are really once again attempting to pretending to be ‘just like’ men and as usual failing miserably to grasp that they are quite different. Her blog merely digs an even bigger hole for her. Equality is such a bitch.

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  84. From “On Women” by Schopenhauer

    With girls, Nature has had in view what is called in a dramatic sense a “striking effect,” for she endows them for a few years with a richness of beauty and a, fulness of charm at the expense of the rest of their lives; so that they may during these years ensnare the fantasy of a man to such a degree as to make him rush into taking the honourable care of them, in some kind of form, for a lifetime—a step which would not seem sufficiently justified if he only considered the matter. Accordingly, Nature has furnished woman, as she has the rest of her creatures, with the weapons and implements necessary for the protection of her existence and for just the length of time that they will be of service to her; so that Nature has proceeded here with her usual economy. Just as the female ant after coition loses her wings, which then become superfluous, nay, dangerous for breeding purposes, so for the most part does a woman lose her beauty after giving birth to one or two children; and probably for the same reasons.
    ——————————————————————————–

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  85. I’d fuck Sinead O’Connor in the ass.

    Just so I could say I’ve fucked SInead O’Connor in the ass.

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  86. Gerald Celente is awesome.

    Forward to 11:00 if you can’t be bothered watching the whole thing.

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  87. “She specifically wants a middle-aged, sweet, sex-starved man…”
    …Doesn’t it mean she’s looking for a loser?
    Also, I’ve known a few “crazy” women and they don’t seem to be aware of their looks at all. Not a shred of insecurity, unlike in other women.

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    • I’ve seen it explained that narcisism is correlated with an inability to self assess accurately. Its an extreme version of the inept being too inept to realize they are inept.

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      • I’ve read that on that Rawness blog, and I can see how this would work. I gotta say one of those women wasn’t narcisstic though, just a bit schizo, and despite all her mental exhaustion and depression, she had a large amount of real confidence. And the other one was in deep shit economically, but always smiled and seemed happy. Strange how these people work.

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      • Self delusion is a helluva drug, Emm…

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  88. Sinead was an absolute doll when she was younger. I’ve watched the “Nothing Compares To You” video many times just to stare at her angelic face and adorable tears. The girl had genuine talent and beauty and she threw it all away because she couldn’t get over herself and her stupid ass politics, or whatever the hell she was pissed at when she was younger.

    The very least she could have done was kept herself thin for fcks sake.

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  89. And I read that “plankton” link. I seriously doubt she is really at the bottom of the food chain like she says. Not all men can get women much younger than them, so many would be happy to get someone their own age. They just aren’t rich, or alpha enough. And those standards don’t help either. You can only say you’re at the bottom of the food chain when you lowered your standards as far as they could go and still got noone to have a relationship with. And I’ve seen fat, older schizophrenic women get decent men, so I’m convinced that for women, the biggest obstacle would be their own standards and not their age.

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    • Also.. would desperation make a woman unattractive?

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      • Yes. Desperation is very unattractive.

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      • Are men turned off by it, in your experience?

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      • A male friend of mine told me that I should shut up about family and kids when talking to potential boyfriend.

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      • Yes

        If a girl is desperate because she’s unattractive for whatever reason (old, overweight, or just plain unpretty), yes it’s a turnoff. I haven’t run into any desperate, desirable women. But, I might fool myself into being interested in them temporarily. I try to avoid that now, though. Other guys might not exercise the same judgement.

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      • I know quite a few desperate girls and they are all old (=over 25), slender and obsessed with their looks. I can’t say whether we’re desirable or not. Is it even possible to fall in love with a woman who’s over 25? (I mean, we already have some fine wrinkles when we laugh – this should be a turn off for someone looking for a wife, the cuteness has faded as well and we have no fatty curves anymore (I found out it’s impossible to have any fat after certain age if you want to prevent sagging, cellulite and fat on the upper arms. Very young curvy girls are cute but after 25 it’s safer to follow Angelina Jolie I think).

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      • Well, I’m not 25 yet, but I’ve seen plenty of women who are over 25 and have some fat (normal amount, more than Angeline Jolie), and it looks just fine… There are problems with being as thin as A.J. when you’re over 25, and that is having a thin face, which makes you look older. I think the best solution is getting some muscle (just some, most women look better with them than without, IMO), and then cover them with a layer of fat so you aren’t ripped and sinewy. That way you can have a sexy figure and a face that’s not too thin.

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      • Emma,

        you’re right, 25 is probably too soon for sagging and cellulite but you know I’m paranoid and I want to prevent it – who knows, maybe at 30 I’ll be still single and I don’t want to look old.
        A.J. really is emaciated but her thin face is not necessarily the result of starvation – it could be the consequence of aging only – cheeks always lose volume just because of time passing. It happens to guys too, but it only makes them look more manly 😛 Also, I’ve noticed that women who are, idk, over 35 and don’t have their face as thin as possible have another problem – sagging cheeks – which is actually much worse than looking like a skeleton. There are exceptions, of course, but very few women retain babyface and firm cheeks for 40 years …

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      • Hmmm.. how about face exercise? I don’t know, just an idea, haha.

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      • Yeah, but even facial yoga won’t prevent all the sagging at 40. It’s impossible not to lose the attractiveness of the youth. I guess it’s better to accept this fact and sell yourself when young (=find a husband before 25) than cling to something that will be lost inevitably. Also, with strengthening the facial muscles you can’t prevent the loss of the fat that looks so cute on the faces of young girls. Well, lifting weights and facial exercise is what I plan to do, but I’m sure that very soon (maybe even at 35) this is not going to be enough anymore – at that time you already need A LOT of botox, fillers, surgery if you want to look as fresh as 20 y.o. girls. I hope I’ll be happily married with three kids until then – I want to age without being addicted to preserving my young face.

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      • Very. The appearance that you won her is a huge ego boost. The light pursuit is fun.

        This doesn’t mean throwing up sh*t tests and playing games like not returning calls, pretending to be busy, etc. You want to be subtle. Try to throw out a “I think that you are interesting and am willing to let you try to convence me to move this relationship further” type vibe.

        Unfortunately a lot of women warp this into thinking that this means they should play hard to get. Both extremes, hard to get and desperation, turn off most men. Men want for a LTR a prize. Not someone who they tripped over.

        Now, you can be forward without showing deperation. An example that pops into mind happened to me a couple of weeks ago. Met two women at a function where I was snapping photos. Both were thin, attractive, could hold an intelligent conversation, and appeared to well enough off. It wasn’t any one think that she did but the first gave the impression that she would go home with me if asked. The other chatted in a friendly manner for a while then asked if I could send her copies of the photos I took and gave me her contact info. After a few days of emailing offered to buy lunch in exchange for sending her the shots.

        The second, while also being forward, is far more interesting to me. She was being forward without being overtly “easy.”

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      • “The appearance that you won her is a huge ego boost.”
        Wow… so making something a little harder to get really makes it more valuable in people’s eyes. I will never get it, and I knew women did this, but I’m surprised that men do it also. But what exactly about desperation that makes it so bad? Is it the lack of self-respect? Willingness to deal with bad things just to get a man?

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      • “But what exactly about desperation that makes it so bad?”

        I don’t know. The effect is real, though. As a guess I would say that it is because for many things people the value of something is what you pay for it. If you aren’t having to pay anything for it, or in this case would have to make an effort to make it go away, it isn’t worth anything.

        Think about the official UN position on education. In the ’90’s (IIRC) they actually came out against completely free education for the poor. They found that when they made parents pay something, even if it was US 25 cents a year, to have their children go to school the results were noticeably improved.

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      • Interesting. I wonder how it can be reconciled with the fact that people also like to get free stuff. Maybe it’s just me and how my family rolls. My insanely practical granpa built a house from planks he gradually found and collected outside. And this also reminds me of that gourd scene from Life of Brian, LOL (“You can have it for free” “…what’s wrong with it?”).

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      • Vulnerability is cute. Desperation is a turn-off.

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      • But desperation is a type of vulnerability…

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      • LOL

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      • Not the right kind of vulnerability.

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      • Emma the Emo

        My insanely practical granpa built a house from planks he gradually found and collected outside.

        yah, but you swedish-lutheran types are all ascetics

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      • And you haven’t met the norwegian-lutheran types yet.

        Wait…

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      • Lol. A tiny correction though: he was Russian. And so am I.

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      • Вероятно?

        That ‘splains grampa’s proclivity.

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      • Emma the Emo

        Lol. A tiny correction though: he was Russian. And so am I.

        i know. you look like my ex from ukrania except for the red dyed hair.

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      • Ну что-то не отвечаешь, Эмма?

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      • Cadnerd,
        I would answer, but I didn’t get your last comment (something about my granpa’s proclivity), so I had nothing to say…

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      • Meant the choice of building material. Or rather no choice, as it were. People made do with what they could get. It was not insanely practical, just very practical. My father was rather well off, but he had that streak too. Not a Russian, tho.

        I thought you’d nail me on my grammar, everyone seems to be keen to do that these days.

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      • Yes, a lot. I have a friend, that I used to make out with, wich has decent looks and is just a few years older than me (27, 28, I guess), but has a real low self-steem and is always showing how insecure she is about her life and her future (actually about everything). She is a cool person, and I almost called her on a date, but her attractiveness is being overthrown for her desperation and insecurity.

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      • So it’s the insecurity, not the desperation, that makes it a turn off? I ask because desperation and insecurity can be separate. I know some girls are so insecure that they need reassurance all the time, and they get jealous easily. That can be a burden on the relationship. Low self-esteem can get annoying after a while, because you have to always prove to them that you still love them and it’s never enough. Is this what you are talking about?
        If this is all true, then that plankton woman might also be decreasing her chances with her low self-esteem.

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  90. “The time for women to nurse a list of exorbitant demands in the men they date is when they are young, slender and cute. By young, I mean under 25. By slender, I mean BMI 17-23. By cute, I mean the top half of the women in this post. If any of those ingredients are missing, women need to slacken their demands in accordance with the degree to which they veer from the feminine ideal.”

    OK. But what can I still demand? I want someone who’s not stupid or lazy, is self-confident, grown-up and is 30-40 y.o. I expect too much, right?

    I think I’ll have to settle … Being a charity and offering sex to some loser is probably not so bad after all?

    Seems that I’ll never have a happy family. I go to see where my cat is.

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    • Oh horseshit. You expect anyone to believe your list of “Demands” is that short?

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    • “OK. But what can I still demand? I want someone who’s not stupid or lazy, is self-confident, grown-up and is 30-40 y.o. I expect too much, right?”

      It depends. Maybe. Your demands are a little vague:

      Not stupid = IQ >= 100 or IQ >= 135?

      Not lazy = Has a job and works hard at it or an entreprenuer who works 60 hours a week?

      Self confident = Greater beta/minor alpha or someone who never admits any insecurity?

      Grown up = Is a man or someone who doesn’t do anything a man would do like have hobbies that are interesting to him, enjoys sports, cares about the toilet decoration, etc. IOW a woman.

      Your requirements could fit either of the interpretations. You could have either tens of thousands of men to choose from or just a handful.

      When men here knock women with requirement they are knocking, well, the subject of this article. The women with the hundred point checklist and if you fail any one you are off consideration. Just like one of the side issues you read here about men needing to have standards and that society would be better off women women should too. Right now for the most part there are none. It is down to whether you are perceived as alpha or not. Hence the success of the PUA games. If women would look beyond their “feelings”, i.e. whether they get the tingles or not, western civilization would have a more optimistic future. Could make it harder for PUAs to get laid, though .

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    • Everything depends on your looks. Post a pic and we’ll tell you what you can get.

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  91. I’ d rather be single and get nothing then deal with some aging fat woman, disgusting. It makes me wonder how older men can deal with women like that, the kind of guys that cant get the young hotties anymore( if ever). I mean how can they get it up? how can they rationalize being with one of those heffers? How can they not get grossed out with the 40 year old set? how do they tolerate it? it soooo effing gross

    In one year I had a 34 year old and a 21 year old, Im 31, the difference was astounding ( like the old blog post on here). 34 was too old, if I cant get women in their 20’s I’d rather get nothing. I don’t know how some guys do it

    I dont know how men deal with old(er) women. I honestly don’t. I would rather be single

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    • You sound suspiciously picky for a guy… But we can’t argue about tastes, obviously.
      “how can they rationalize being with one of those heffers?” Well, those I know seem to love the women they are with, strangely enough. Some people just have higher standards, and some have lower. A lot of men I know seem to have the standard of “pretty much any average woman will do”, at least when it comes to sex (and often for relationships, since a lot of guys are average, and not supposed to be hypergamous).
      If you’re the type of guy who can consistently get women in their 20s, then there is nothing wrong with your standards. But if you aren’t that guy, then your standards might soon be adjusted.

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    • Heffer? A heffer is a cow that has not yet given birth, i.e.
      a very young cow.

      Thor

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    • Maybe you should spend less time worrying about what other men do and a little more time worrying about yourself.

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  92. I don’t feel at all sorry for the ‘Plankton’ or whatever. This is just part of the ‘negative aspects’ of feminism. What women can’t seem to grasp is the fact that everything in life involves trade-offs. Under the old, evil, wicked system of yesteryear, women were discouraged from ‘playing the field’ early on, but in return they had a better chance of creating long-term relationships; now, under the new system (if it can even be called a system at all), women play the field like wild animals for as long as they can, but at the cost of more serious interpersonal bonds with the opposite sex.

    There are up-sides and down-sides for men, too: today, men suffer early on, but then play the field like mad later. The older system imposed restrictions on both sexes because our population was more ‘community focused’ rather than ‘individual focused.’

    Everything involves trade-offs. The older culture justified itself by claiming that the restrictions benefitted the larger society; feminist culture attempts to justify itself by claiming that those same restrictions don’t allow for maximum individual development and satisfaction.

    I guess, ultimately, it depends on which type of society you want (or, perhaps more accurately, which type will be more competitive in conflict with other societies, a fact of life modern Westerners have unwisely forgotten): a society which fosters community or a society which is atomized and socially disconnected.

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  93. […] most recent post over at Heartiste / Roissy’s (?) site enumerating the post-wall woes of Sinead O’Conner reminded me of an interesting phenomenon that has been gathering popular cultural awareness now for […]

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  94. O’Conner is a textbook example of the new feminine social convention called “Sexual Fluidity”

    http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2011/09/01/sexual-fluidity/

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  95. Again, here we are talking about ‘hitting the wall’ as if it is inevitable. It isn’t.

    S-U-N-S-C-R-E-E-N.

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    • No. Sunscreen only prevents some wrinkles, dark spots, broken capillaries etc. It can’t prevent the loss of baby fat on cheeks or the effects of gravitation. Hitting the wall IS inevitable.

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    • The wall is inevitable. However some things to keep in mind:

      She can already be younger. A typical 50 year old man might be able to do a 15 year age gap. However if his current is 10 years younger, its really chump change. However if she decides to try trendy older woman route, she could be in serious trouble. If she is a mere 5 years older, we are talking about 20 year potential, the difference between Sinead one and Sinead two.

      Men do form attachments. Looks matter, but its still somewhat buffered. Thus a woman who is in an existing relationship is 10 years younger and is the mother of his children is in a different league than a 45 year old woman “dating”.

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  96. 1) sinead was never really that hot. she is photogenic and had great photographers. Similar to Emma Watson, strictly mediocre in real life and benefiting from good makeup and angles.

    2) promiscuity engenders refusal to settle. women rationalize their string of dead end relationships saying “I’ll do better”, “what a loser”… when the reality is that as they age the quality of men usually goes down, down. They’ve turned down marriage with decent betas, fell in love with alphas who left them….. and they will NEVER DO ANY BETTER. They can’t confront that awful truth and never settle.

    3) when they do settle it is from a position of desperation, setting up a beta as the helpless victim. She doesn’t love him. He is a pulse. She holds him in contempt.

    This is why I don’t date older women…. can I out alpha every dude she’s ever dated? I don’t think so and a girl’s alpha tastes vary even by time of the month. No, you never want a girl with history as a wife.

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  97. “”Eating healthy” is probably a good idea, but there is little consensus
    on what it means. Getting plenty of antioxidants (from food or pills)
    is probably a good idea too, but there is little consensus here too.”

    One thing is beyond dispute: lay off the fructose. That shit is poison. Cutting way back on grains (especially wheat) and eating more greens is almost beyond dispute, too. Antioxidants are fine, but don’t go overboard with pills. Massive amounts of antioxidants can be pro-oxidant in the body. Just add some red veggies (tomatoes, peppers) to your diet and drink some green tea, that should do it.

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  98. WTF? Noooooooo! Where’s the “Nothing Compares 2 U” Sinead?!

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  99. Heartiste. In all seriousness.

    I am not sure why men are so bothered by women in 30′s an 40′s choosing this way for themselves? I just don’t understand the pre-occupation with “old” women who do this. In fact, if young women are the only desirables to most men why even care about what old, past the prime women are doing?

    The fact is, they are making the most of their situations as would ANY human being. I find it hypocritical for men to focus on past prime women (who they don’t even want themselves) and hammer us for choosing a certain lifestyle for ourselves while its perfectly ok for older men to do what they need to do to get laid.

    I don’t understand this obsession with poking and prodding and talking down about women in 30’s and 40’s who are choosing the best life for themselves.

    Plainly put, women in 30’s and 40’s still have sexual desires. If they are not married or in LTR’s (b/c men are obsessed with only committing to young fertile women) then should they simply life the rest of their lives in celibacy just so men won’t talk about them? Would you like for feminist women to tell old guys past their primes to stop chasing young women for sex b/c they are delusional?

    I agree women past a certain age need to keep it in perspective and stop acting like they are still in their prime. I also agree that how Sinead went about proclaiming her sexual needs and standadards for men at this point in her life and her looks was tacky and tasteless. But the reality is women LIKE MEN past their prime still do have sexual needs. After a certain point women will not be able to get them met.

    So while in 30’s and 40s and still reasonably attractive many women choose this route and have other things in their lives to help with the emotional fulfillment that may come from LTR’s, marriage or kids. I don’t understand the obsession for making women past the prime who many of you claim to not want anyway feel like shit for making the best of their situation.

    WE HAVE SEXUAL NEEDS JUST LIKE MEN OUR AGE AND OLDER. And we have a right to seek to fulfill that without being demonized for it.

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    • I am not sure why men are so bothered by women in 30′s an 40′s choosing this way for themselves?

      we’re not bothered by them. we’re laughing at them.

      and we’re not laughing at the fact that they’ve simply aged (everyone ages), we’re laughing at their thinking that they’ve still got the same smv as they did when they were 20.

      WE HAVE SEXUAL NEEDS

      not all women are like that.

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      • “WE HAVE SEXUAL NEEDS

        not all women are like that.”

        What do you mean? If all women didn’t have sexual needs then how are you getting laid outside of relationship? And what’s the point of game if women aren’t “all like that”?

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      • Its really not just about the laughter. There really is love that may be cultivated. Its really not entirely different from what it means to raise a child from an infant vs adopting a 10 year old. Women certainly still remember the infant when this person is at any age. It would be difficult to toss away an older woman who was with you from her youth. Especially if she was a bit younger to begin with. Only a long career of fertility can give natural support to monogamous behavior.

        The time to establish the analog to the mother-infant bond cannot be much past the early 20s. Otherwise its like a teenage adoption that brings to mind things like needle tracks, glue sniffing, juvi and arson. Women who decide they will find their old reliable well into their 30s deserve to be ruthlessly mocked. We celebrate when the arrogance of feminist thought is turned to powder and blown away with the dry crusts of age.

        The tears of humility in young women are like sweet springs. The tears of a lonely old woman who spurned the virtuous entreaties of the past is a sulfurous pit of fumes.

        In short, you fucked it all up and followed the drippings. What really makes feminism so cruel is that men can come to their senses later in life and recover. What a cruel irony it is that it is too late for the women who insisted on flouting natural laws.

        Thus just like the days of old, find an older established man in your youth.

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    • If they are not married or in LTR’s (b/c men are obsessed with only committing to young fertile women) then should they simply live the rest of their lives in celibacy just so men won’t talk about them?

      No, but they can’t make demands. That’s all. If you are a fat warpig over 40 you simply cannot make demands. Plenty of men are forced to masturbate or pay for sex. If you are a fat pig of a woman over 40, then you too must suffer the indignities of forced celibacy. Take a good look at that cucumber. It is your new friend.

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    • I also agree that how Sinead went about proclaiming her sexual needs and standadards for men at this point in her life and her looks was tacky and tasteless.

      Um. no. Her sexual needs aren’t being met.

      Why aren’t they being met? Because she, and all those other single women in their 20s decided that they would rather be alone rather than pair up with some beta.

      They figured they could just keep up the lifestyle for as long as they wished. So Rossy has to post about this. THIS. This is what your future will be like as a woman if you don’t pull your head out of your ass.

      These posts aren’t for the women past their prime. It’s for those who are still in it.

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      • Well good luck in reaching those women in their prime. It will fall on deaf ears as long as society tells women its okay to sleep around and screw like the boys while you still have it physically. That’s the message and women are eating it up. Unless there is a major overhaul in how society promotes sexual promiscuity in women, forget it.

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      • that is what every man here wants to read from you! U have started knowing what all men want at this blog. U r smart!

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      • “Unless there is a major overhaul in how society promotes sexual promiscuity in women, forget it..”

        Let’s correct this.

        Unless there is a major overhaul in how women promote sexual promiscuity in women, forget it.

        It wasn’t the evil European Patriarchy that came up with this view.

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    • We’re bothered when you send us the bill via the Welfare State. While Sinead may not have kids, the women who do this usually do. Every penny you tax from us to pay for your bastard children sired by basic-common-sense-says-he’s-a-bad-idea-bad-boy-biker-alphas who we didn’t father is a penny we cannot use to have our own families.

      For a significant percentage of men, even with dedicated study of game, if they want to have families, they will have to bring money to the table.

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  100. Not only has Father Time been cruel to Sinead, she was incestially raped by him.

    This is sad. Another, but less cruelly aged rocker is Debbie Harry. She maintained her looks long after her 1980s cute days, but I saw a recent advertisement for a Blondie show. It ripped my heart out to see her.

    The one old rocker that time seems to have left alone is Joan Jett, but I haven’t seen her since her spot on Ellen a few years ago. Back then there was a rumor that she had a thing with Carmen Electra.

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  101. Wow, the femmes are out to play at the Chateau. Roissy writing for HuffPo or something?

    My opinion — older men can *all* date younger women. There is a 100:1 ratio of 6s and up women in their 20s to every alpha man within 5 years of them.

    All a guy needs to do is:

    1. Don’t be so serious. Stop chasing. Learn to walk away before you learn to stick around.

    2. Don’t be so obvious. Mystery works.

    3. Lose weight. http://Www.marksdailyapple.com to start. It’s 90% diet, 10% exercise. Eat like a man.

    4. Go to any flamboyent gay hair salon for men, preferably after 4 weeks of not shaving. Let a gay princess fix your bad haircut, bald spot, facial hair.

    5. Let her have the last question in all communication. Your lack of response increases her desire.

    I’m 37, and I have zero issues finding and meeting up with women half my age to my age. Hell, the 19-22 crowd loves my masculinity.

    No excuses, men.

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    • I’m 20 years older and totally agree. One just grabs opportunities when they offer themselves. I never go to bars, not my environ. The rest of the world is my theater.

      I’m content with my LTR’s, but that does not mean I’ll not play.

      Just yesterday, ‘were standing in line at the bank just before closing. 5 people in front of me, 8 behind me, about 3 of the total were young men, one quite a looker standing right behind me. This bank chick, very cute A/C mix about 22 yo, 7.5, comes out of her office in the back and zooms up right to me with “can I help you” thing.

      When seating me, she says : “It’s busy today, we’ve been closed for a half day yesterday, so it’s a bit of spillover”.

      Me: “What happened?”

      BC: “We’ve been robbed”.

      Me : “Wild, wild west”.

      BC: giggles

      BC: while entering my check — “What do you do”?

      Me: “Quite a few things. Tis’ one was for coding”.

      BC: “For what”???

      Me: “Writing code for a website”.

      BC: “Oh! I thought coating”.

      Me: “No, that ‘d be an entirely different animal”.

      BC: giggles, does her hair thing, then “Do you need the receipt”?

      Me: “No”.

      BC: “That’s good, cuz I’m running out of the toner”.

      Me: “What, they stole your toner too”?

      BC: more giggles

      Me: “On the second thought, receipt–yes, Got enough toner?”

      BC: nods, prints the receipt and hands it to me and I touch her inadvertently on her wrist while grabbing the receipt

      Me: looking at the receipt, then “There’s something missing”.

      BC: “What”?

      Me: “Your phone number”.

      BC: hands me her card.

      Me: “The other phone number”.

      BC: “Oh”! then giggles, fixes her hair, blushes, then neatly puts her first name and phone number on the receipt’s back.

      Me: “Have a glorious day. I’ll be in touch”.

      ***

      That’s it, boys. Exercise. Don’t let even a seemingly mundane opportunity pass you by.

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      • Bank tellers are great to date. Due to heavier background and credit checks, they tend to bbe lower maintenance gals. I approve.

        I don’t vibe the bar scene either. In my early 20s, I was part owner in a popular club. The things I saw *every* female regular do more than once each, including the seemingly wholesale ones, taught me to skip the cock carousellers.

        Tragic that Borders is gone.

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    • 6. Be good in bed. I am in good physical shape, eat pussy like a lesbian, and do my level best to fuck the woman I am with into next Thursday every single time we disrobe. This has had a HUGE effect in keeping women many years my junior interested in me (if not borderline obsessed in at least once case I can think of).

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  102. shnaid is proof, that 80’s pretentiousness – epitomized by the spelling of her name – only piles on the Irish Girl lifestyle handicap of inveterate, innate boozing, fighting and fucking.

    After a lifetime spent swinging between being used as either spittoon or pincushion, the picture is the NATURAL result.

    NO SURPRISE

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    • Sinead is a traditional Irish name, what are you talking about?

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      • ’til the pure Hamster Girl
        who toodles past “spittoon”
        and “pincushion”

        to focus on The Crux of The Matter.

        Suffice it to say, crazy dagos and paddys have even crazier pronuncications of their “ethnic” names.

        I suppose you pronounce yours “Mary”

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  103. Thanks for the extra angles Tinderbox! It really nails her horrible look. Also, I bet that if she wore simple clothes (and not “fashionable” trash) and had long hair instead of, again, “fashionable” semi-baldness, she would be at least a tiny bit attractive. This way, it’s the dumpster for her.

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  104. It’s really not rocket science for women, any more than it is for men. A happy marriage and well-raised children make aging smooth and pleasant; dealing with loneliness and the harsh dating market aren’t necessary if you plan ahead and make good choices.

    If she wants to ensure a happy old age, a woman has to get serious about finding a husband by around 26 at the latest. Even before then be careful and stay off the cock carousel, since kids, STDs and emotional “issues” scare men away. What you’re looking for in a husband is different from a boyfriend; avoid “exciting”, unreliable alpha types and seek out greater beta types with a solid character who love you and want to protect you. You also have to show you’re worthy of his love and protection by not cheating or acting like a drunken slut. It may sound boring but you’re talking lifetime commitment, not temporary thrills. This gives you your later 20s (at most) to find a good man, get engaged and be married before 30.

    After marriage, it’s also pretty straightforward: Don’t. Divorce. Him. If there are problems in your relationship, work on them, but remember you took lifetime vows and it’s a harsh world out there. And don’t listen to your stupid friends who are divorcing their husbands – send them links to Sinead’s blog as a cautionary tale. And most men won’t initiate divorce if they’re reasonably content, so don’t give him reason to divorce you either (cheating, being a nagging bitch, letting yourself go, CHEATING.) Look nice, be kind to your husband, raise your children right, be active in your community. Nothing is guaranteed but this is the closest thing a woman can get to a sure shot in this world.

    Thor and Michelle had good points, but again it isn’t rocket science. These rules worked fine for our mothers and grandmothers, and they will work for us too. Let the shrieking feminist harpies fall off on their own.

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  105. She is 44 years old. She looks like a fat 65 year old. At 44, a woman may not be particularly attractive, but not necessarily repulsive either. A man used to her company for years with hot meals and back rubs may still find happiness. This is not hitting the wall. This is hitting the wall with high velocity and becoming a rotting and stinking paste.

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    • I met a dame in Chicago a month ago. Swore she would be 29, 31 tops. Let her take me out a few nights later for a cocktail, find out she’s 41. A friend of mine at the bar also thought she was 30 or younger.

      That’s a total of 4 women I’ve met in my life past 40 who look young.

      The list of women who are 25 but look 45 grows by that number weekly.

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      • For a little perspective:

        Its an older photo where she should be about 48 here. One may speculate as to how this was achieved, but it is difficult to peel my eyes away, very difficult.

        And since she has been an example of feminine beauty without shaving the head, tating it up, fattening up, or being a general nut case while publicly seeking anal, my memories will linger into the future.

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  106. i think i’d sooner fuck sean connery than sinead o’connor

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  107. Thank you Spiralina. And you are right of course.

    BTW, Jodie Foster still looks fine, and she will be 49 this year.

    Thor

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  108. Jodie Foster is career-dependent on her physical looks; she is a “movie star.”

    She thus has had millions in plastic surgery
    to keep her “looking fine.”

    Nothing to do with clean-living or even genetics.

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  109. Funny. I get the impression that this holding of standards is not so much entitlement but a mis-applied dating strategy.

    By indicating that you have standards (And apparently, have the ability to hold to them) you show that you have bargaining power and must therefore be attractive. It’s just game.

    They feel it is self-defeating to admit to lower SMV, as it would not only mean a blow to your ego (Know your real worth) but also increase the chances of lower-value-than-previously-considered mates, which they might stick with, as they can’t get anything else. That in effect, this means you remain lonely and never find the man you could have gotten, well, that’s the price of this specific strategy.

    The moment the strategy starts to fail, however, is when it is no longer congruent. It’s exactly the same in men, people will forgive you your assholery and negging if they don’t find an incongruent insecure guy below all the façade with shit-testing.

    Men don’t need to shit-test. We just look at the woman, see her act like a spoiled princess and BAM. Incongruence spotted. Though the measure by which we respond to that is largely dependent on the last time we got laid.

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    • Amen,

      In the real world the standards we hold for the things we want – new apartment, car, holiday – are kept in check by whats happening in our bank account.

      It always amazes me how poorly calibrated demands & attractiveness are for most women.

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  110. Even Sinead has a hope of coming around to sensibility on her sexual obsolescence.

    “Fire-men, rugby players, and Robert Downey-Junior will be given special consideration. As will literally anyone who applies.”

    How savory is the wicked irony of THE Miss 80’s Social Iconoclasm
    is as selectively liberated as Marilyn Monroe
    …when it comes to stuffing her Vagina

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  111. How to see what the woman of your dreams might look like when older:-

    http://www.worth1000.com/tutorials/161116/tutorial

    A candid photo, and you’re all set.

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  112. You know she has hit the wall when it all is gone and she only has her difficult brown to attempt to entice you with. Let me tell you about my Grandpa.

    My Grandpa was born in the late 1890’s in Bohemia – He came to America and wandered around – became a Journeyman Carpenter, and eventually married my Grandma – who was divorced with 2 children – she had been a Flapper Girl. Almost unheard of in the 20’s – divorce that is. My Grandma’s slut Sister remained a bar whore and my Grandpa raised my Mom, Uncle and Cousin. But here is the difference between the whores of today – my Grandma had enough of the Flapper Girl days – and had SKILLS. My Grandma was up before my Grandpa EVERYDAY (5:00am) and had a hot and tasty breakfast, from scratch, ready when He awoke. She packed Him a tasty and delicious lunch and treats. She did the dishes after He was done with breakfast. The rest of Her day was cooking and cleaning – homemade from scratch pies, cookies, cakes. Lunch as required. When Grandpa came home – a tasty dinner was ready – along with desserts – after He was done eating – it was time for Him to relax. As my Grandpa would say, “Men work from Sun to Sun, but Women’s work is never done.” I NEVER saw my Grandpa touch a dirty dish, help, or offer to help. Grandma also kept the house SPOTLESS. You never saw dirt, messes, or laundry. She did all the laundry at home, hung stuff up by hand to dry, and ironed as required. I NEVER HEARD HER COMPLAIN. She was also good with a sewing machine, mended everything herself, and made her own clothes. NEVER did she take the car on her own – Grandpa always drove. If She had to go somewhere – well – it had to wait. She also tended Garden – and helped Grandpa with anything He required of her – to even include finishing concrete once when the help didn’t show up. My Grandma dedicated her every waking hour to my Grandpa – guess she learned her lesson from whoring around previously – further – she NEVER complained. Never had to be put on “meds” or see a “shrink”. My Grandma worked from sun up to sun down for her Beta/Alpha provider. His word was FINAL – no questions were to be asked. Grandma prepared everything from scratch – and she was a talented cook with a wide variety of recipies – always expanding on the recipies for something new Grandpa might like. When Grandpa took Her shopping – it was staples, like flour, sugar, salt, pepper, milk, etc. that were the raw ingredients for a meal – no “TV Dinners”, “Instant” -“Justa add Water”, etc. Further, Grandma hab been raised on a chicken farm, and knew the ins and outs of cleaning poultry/ fish, etc, which she could, and did do. I NEVER saw my Grandma drive, until AFTER Grandpa died. My Grandma NEVER “went out with her girlfriends”, drove the car, went to a drycleaners, met her “girlfriends for” (name it) , etc, etc. When left to look after my Sister and me – She could be a harsh taskmaster – if one disobeyed – but she was also very kind, nuturing and willing to teach. Sure, Grandma lost her looks, lived to be almost 90 – but was fiercely independent with valuable skills. Now we only got worn out old whores offering up the brown eye. Disgusting.

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    • Your Grandpa knew how to create a woman.

      I believe that it is possible to create such women out of what we have laying around today.

      Watch what Ceasar Romaro, the dog whisperer, starts and finishes with.

      Even if the girls predispositions are not in line with what you want, time and conditioning will move her in your direction.

      You can start with a slut, you can start with a tom boy – as long as the woman is emotionally stable, she’s workable and trainable.

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      • I call bullshit.

        As great as Ceasar is with dogs, women are an entirely different proposition.

        A dog may be (re)trained within a week but its owners need to keep doing what is required to get the dog to behave in the appropriate way.

        Take on a woman as such a project and you are in for a lifetime project and quite likely a lifetime of frustration and angst.

        Why bother when you are far better off looking for a better one elsewhere.

        Do you really want to fall into the “I can change her” trap?
        Many have tried, have epically failed and have been severely burnt.

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    • Sounds like a slave. I just changed the words in your essay from grandma to family servant.

      Chilling. And sounds like you want woman to aspire to be one.

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    • You know she has hit the wall when it all is gone and she only has her difficult brown to attempt to entice you with. …

      Too priceless for words… .

      O’Conner is an absolutly pathetic, wretched excuse for a woman.

      Imagine a man, um, ‘advertising’ on the internet for a ‘partner’ — he’d be laughed out of existence.

      Actually, it is even more pathetic, when you think about it, when a woman (and I mean this very loosely for Sinbad O’Connie) does it.

      *If she was a man (at least officially) she would, *UNEQUIVOCALLY*, be a lesser omega.

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  113. sd- That picture of Katie Holmes said it all. Hope she’s got some skills – like my dead Grandma to carry her through when her looks are gone. I’m now 48 – Beta all the way – when younger I was small and thin – the military bulked me up and made me “buff” – wow! what a difference in how women reacted to me. That’s when the women who chase the alpha male cock carousel started showing interest – although I didn’t have the knowledge I have now – I didn’t understand it 25 years ago. It was “confusing” to me when friends wives came on to me – and I tried to be “honorable”. Of course, most of them are now divorced, the ex-wives now fat and unhappy. In an ironic twist of fate – after almost 25 years – I now work for my former girlfriend – who was 16 when I met her. She in now 45. A shell of her former self, unhappily married, fat, dumpy and saggy, she wanted to establish a sexual relationship right away. I can’t because I find myself repulsed. The picture I have of her at 16 bears very little resemblence, and she has lost any mark of physical sexuality. It is true – she works, as a nurse, and works long hours – but she is in debt, has every penny spent she makes- and needs more – what is the upside? NONE.

    What does the Woman, I mean female of today have to offer – except 3 holes? Once that is over and done – there is no point – so let’s legalize prostitution (like Europe) so we can make the exchange safe, legal, clean, and IRS approved. Pussy, ass and mouth is just another commodity.

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    • If you feel that way about it, you may find some women receptive to playing “rental wife”. Or French Maid with benefits.

      I’ve heard that regular non professionals can be enticed with money, and some can give real affection along with three holes.

      Just saying, if that’s the route you want to go, you could expand on that, and get even more than just three holes. It’s an age old tradition to keep a mistress in food and an apartment in return for access.

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  114. Don’t have time to read all the comments, but I hope somebody pointed out that this was a Heartiste “classic post”, i.e. funny as hell….

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  115. One of my favorite jokes:

    Q: What does Sinead O’Connor do after she combs her hair?

    A: Pulls up her pants!

    Not that funny anymore, considering the visual. Gross. And it wasn’t all that good a visual to begin with.

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  116. These amuse me, seem slightly related:
    http://www.quickmeme.com/ALYSSA-BEREZNAK/

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  117. […] our society value beauty so much, if it wasn’t so easily killed?  Time’s bill of costs can be cruel to both men and women (at least if they haven’t […]

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  118. Ol’ Sinead looks like Marv Albert in drag…maybe they’re the same person?

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  119. I am remembering something I read about Sinéad and Anthony Kiedis – the Red Hot Chilli Peppers vocalist. They had a relationship and she dumped him, without even had sex with him. The guy was so frustated that he got depressed and even wrote a song “I could Have Lied”.

    She was so full of herself when she was young that she dumped – and played with – a freakin’ rockstar. I bet she did similar things with a bunch of guys back then . And now with 44, ironically, she is beggin for sex, but what about 48-years old Kiedis? Well, Roissy has an old post about him that could elucidate this question.

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  120. I keep running into the girl I dated when I was 21. She was 2 years or so younger and an 8+.

    Fast forward 19 years. She is so fat and ugly, even her eyelids are fat. I’m very angry because she was a former conquest that I don’t even want to admit to ever having f*cked now. It’s like one of my notches has been removed from my bedpost. So disappointing. She, like Sinead, apparently went through a lesbian faze too. She is also a radical feminist, and now she has the arse the same width as an axe-handle to proove it!

    She wasn’t too enthused at finding out that at 40 I can still pull girls in their 20’s.

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    • She wasn’t too enthused at finding out that at 40 I can still pull girls in their 20′s.

      i would be like ‘why can’t you just be happy for me?’ just to see her response.

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    • LOL, yeah I know, seeing some of my past lays, sooooo embaressed that I ever got caught in the sack with them. Aint a good thing fo shore.

      Oh lawdy.

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  121. on August 31, 2011 at 5:59 pm | Reply Opus
    @Lara

    As usual you get it right.

    I think people confuse a woman’s sexual desires with their greater willingness to experiment as they age. Older women know that to attract men they cannot afford to play coy, for otherwise the man might as well go for a younger woman – the man always trades off youth and beauty for quicker sex. The older woman then begins to enjoy what she is doing sexually (‘hey Anal is great after all!’) and confuses this with being, as O’Connor did ‘in her sexual
    prime’. In these circumsatnaces ‘sexual prime’ is code for ‘I will do anything a man wants if that will get me any male interest’.

    I————————-

    I have been pondering this this since I read it. I think the women who post here are mostly younger. But there is something to this concept. I was pretty inhibited when I was younger (married at 24), The older I get the better the sex gets, the more orgasmic I have become. Perhaps its a completely different animal when you factor monogamy in, tho.

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  122. Wow, scathing entry. Was to reignite the passion, Heariste. Back with a vengeance with this one.

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  123. The People I’ve Slept With

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  124. usmagazine.com:

    … What qualities does O’Connor look for in a man? “He must be no younger than 44, must not be named Brian or Nigel, must be blind enough to think I’m gorgeous, has to be employed and he has to like his mother” — among various other requirements. …

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  125. So we men are supposed to find THAT ATTRACTIVE?!? She looks a Bull Dyke. If I wanted to have sex with a man, then I’ll have sex with man and not a “female” who looks like one. Let me say this about Sinead O’Connor, and this is just my opinion; she wasn’t that great-looking back then. Of course she didlook better back then compared to now.

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  126. sinhead o’connor:

    1984: I’m a sexless shaved bambi virgin, it’s great.

    2011: Fuck my fat ass and ugly old asshole I’m so desperately lonely.

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  127. http://www.billboard.com/news/sinead-o-connor-on-the-hunt-for-sex-1005333182.story

    Sinead O’Connor, on a day from that human Stalingrad march of life that is a plain 40+ year old female celebrity entitled live quest for a guy that has all she deserves

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  128. on September 5, 2011 at 11:30 am Ricardo di Matteo

    Here’s a funny interview with Sinead O’Connor:

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  129. on September 5, 2011 at 2:13 pm A French guy living in CA

    Let me tell you about another Prince girl. Do you remember Pearl and Diamond, the two astonishing brunettes which appeared in Prince’s videos “Cream” and “Diamonds and Pearls”. Well, one of them, Pear (Robia LaMorte) has become a a born-again Christian. Although she’s still hot at her age (41), now she is as cellibate as a nun, and preaches shit after shit. And you thought liberalism is bad. Christian shit is worse.

    Check out the sorry ass transformation by yourself

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  130. Oh man, this is just sad. I remember I met and chatted with Sinead O’ Connor at the New York music awards around 1988-1989 for a couple of minutes. She was petite and cute as a button. Shaved head and all. I had a crush on her for about a week after meeting her. What the Hell happened!? I mean 20 years is 20 years. But DAMM!! This is just like a whole different person!

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  131. One of my friends pointed out that a rock star’s appeal is
    to large part based on sexual attraction. Some, like Sinead,
    believe, incorrectly, that their music alone is the key.

    Thus, unlike some smarter actors (i.e. primarily actresses) they
    do not meticulously care for their appearance, and let themselves go.
    And, hey presto, they become has-beens.

    (There are a few, VERY FEW, actresses that are truly great at their
    art, such as Meryl Streep, who can get gigs _almost_ regardless of
    looks, but never bet on it).

    Thor

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  132. “Oh man, this is just sad. I remember I met and chatted with Sinead O’ Connor at the New York music awards around 1988-1989 for a couple of minutes. She was petite and cute as a button. Shaved head and all. I had a crush on her for about a week after meeting her. What the Hell happened!? I mean 20 years is 20 years. But DAMM!! This is just like a whole different person!”

    20 years and 4 kids will do that to a woman. A woman’s sexual maturity only lasts around 30 years for healthy industrialised nation women. When you met her she was 10 years into it, now she’s at the end of it. It’s like a man being close to death in fertility age.

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  133. This 3-holer was ugly to begin with. If she grew her hair out in her 20s she likely would have been ok (most Irish girls are too pale and moley for me though). I also recall she was a brain dead SWPL type – into feminsim, multiculturalism and the like.

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  134. Janis Joplin had the same complaint: she couldn’t get laid either. Whoever knocked up Mama Cass was one drunk sumbitch.

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  135. nice post blogger, best in months. Should be mandatory reading for all women as they hit the age of 25.

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  136. I think this post was a bit cruel, people can forget that this is someone real we are talking about with feelings. I have just read an article about Sinead O’Connor:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2038136/Sinead-OConnor-tweets-disturbing-suicide-bid-comments.html
    It’s saying that she’s suicidal. She is clearly a bit of a fragile person.

    And not all women are unattractive once they get to a certain age, this is simply untrue. Firstly my mother and aunties are still beautiful in their 50s. What about Yasmin Le Bon (46), Heather Graham (41), Michelle Pfeiffer (53), Elizabeth Hurley (46), Natasha McElhone(41), Kristin Scott Thomas (51), Juliette Binoche (47)….etc …

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  138. on September 26, 2011 at 12:27 am Chris from Dublin

    LMFAO
    🙂

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