The Right Game For Your Body Type: The Endomorph

We’re all familiar with the three major body types: ectomorph (skinny), endomorph (fat) and mesomorph (muscular). And many of us have noticed that these three body types tend to correspond with certain mental and emotional characteristics. William Sheldon was the first to research and categorize an association between body type and personality type, or temperament. He called it the theory of constitutional psychology. (Even bodybuilders have dietary regimes geared to your particular body type.)

Sheldon’s theory has been accused of pseudoscience by an assortment of social scientists and psychologists, the great majority of them leftists, who don’t like the implications in his work. I don’t want to get into a cage fight over the validity of his body type theory; for now, let’s just say the science is unsettled. However, I do want to acknowledge that I, and apparently lots of others, can’t help but observe in real life daily confirmation of Sheldon’s theory. There’s something there, odd as it may seem that one’s physique and mental attributes would interact in predictable ways, and one day we’ll get to the bottom of it.

In the meantime, we will assume that constitutional psychology has some merit based on anecdota. This post is about tailoring your game to your body type, which reflects your innate personality type. Here’s a primer if you want to know where you fall on Sheldon’s somatotype diagram, and what that says about your personality:

The diagram should be self-explanatory. Note that the figures represented are extremes for that body type; you may fall somewhere in between two extremes, or have traits from all three types. In keeping with nature’s design to use men as evolutionary guinea pigs, men tend to be found at the extremes more often than are women.

Linked with each body type is your corresponding temperament. Briefly:

Endotonia is seen in the love of relaxation, comfort, food and people.

Mesotonia is centered on assertiveness and a love of action.

Ectotonia focuses on privacy, restraint and a highly developed self-awareness.

I’ll get into more detail of the temperaments in a continuing series to be published this week, but for now, know that the game you use to pick up women will likely be interdependent with your body type and associated temperament. That is, you’ll find certain game tactics and strategies more or less favorable depending on your personality type. For instance, if you are using game that is best suited for an outgoing, physical mesomorph, but you are an introverted, brainy ectomorph, you will experience more difficulty achieving success. You want to identify your inborn strengths and tailor your game to them, while adjusting your game to account for inborn weaknesses. As Dirty Harry said, “A man’s got to know his limitations.” You’ve got to know your limitations so that they don’t unexpectedly sabotage you in the middle of a pickup attempt.

The Extreme [Endomorph] — Friendliness

The endotonic shows a splendid ability to eat, digest and socialize. […] Endotonics are relaxed and slow-moving. Their breathing comes from the abdomen and is deep and regular. Their speech is unhurried and their limbs often limp. They like sitting in a well-upholstered chair and relaxing. All their reactions are slow, and this is a reflection on a temperament level of a basal metabolism, pulse, breathing rate and temperature which are all often slower and lower than average. The circulation in their hands and feet tends to be poor. Sheldon calls these people biologically introverted organisms. It is as if all the energy is focused on the abdominal area, leaving less free to be expressed in the limbs and face, and giving the impression of a lack of intensity.

Sheldon felt that biological introversion gave rise to psychological extraversion. Since the bodies of the endotonics are so focused on the central digestive system, they need and crave social stimulation in order to feel complete on the social level. Groups of people, rather than fatiguing them, stimulate them to the proper level of social interaction. The assimilative powers that on the physical level were oriented to food, now on the social level draw them to people.

They have a strong desire to be liked and approved of, and this often leads them to be very conventional in their choices in order not to run the risk of social disapproval. The endotonics are open and even with their emotions which seem to flow out of them without any inhibitions. Whether they are happy or sad, they want the people around them to know about it, and if others express emotion they react directly and convincingly in sympathy. When an endotonic has been drinking he becomes even more jovial and radiates an expansive love of people. Endotonics are family-oriented and love babies and young children and have highly developed maternal instincts.

In summary, they love assimilation both on the physical and social level.

Endomorphs are your archetypical “class clown” socializers. This is their strength, and their game should emphasize this aspect of their personalities. An endomorph will not feel anxiety about working a mixed set. He longs for social interaction. Openers and small talk will come second nature to him. Disarming cockblocks will be easy for him because he has a facility with assimilating into groups and making everyone feel good. He is expert at smoothing hurt feelings and generally making girls feel happier in his presence.

For these reasons, endomorphs make the best wingmen. They are loyal to a fault, and skilled in the art of getting your lackadaisical ass into conversations with women. An endomorph is best paired with an ectomorph; each one’s strength cancels out the other’s weakness.

Tyler Durden, especially back when he was a fatter aspiring PUA, is an example of the socially eager, uninhibited, emotive endomorph. TD practically invented “gay game”. Endomorphs are especially gifted in “hot-cold-hot-cold”, “push-pull” and “high-low” roller coaster game, which involves a lot of puppeteering of women’s emotions. Endomorphs are comfort stage kings, where their natural sympathy and relaxed demeanor shines.

Endomorphs are not, on the whole, manipulative (they tend to sincerity in everything they do), so a lot of the emotional see-sawing that they engage in is coincidental to their free-for-all, open-minded attitude toward socializing. If they can channel their natural expressiveness so that it is more calculated and less indulgent, they can kill at seduction.

Endomorphs are also strong in the perceived aloofness department, (different than actual aloofness), owing to their disposition to avoid flamboyant gesticulation and facial expressions. An endomorph who is verbally engaged, but bodily disengaged, is sending just the right sort of mixed signals that women love and crave.

Where endomorphs are weak is in their neediness for approval and in their aptness to slip into “entertainment monkey” game. An endomorph has to be careful about being boxed into LJBF hell by girls who have desexualized his overt friendliness. My advice to an endomorph would be to shore up his weaknesses by focusing on adding edge to his joviality: say, by negging and teasing girls more than he’s comfortable doing. I would also tell him to watch for moments when he’s seeking approval. Endomorphs have to really train themselves to adopt a mentality of outcome independence and self-sustaining inner confidence. They also need to curb their habit to profusely compliment women. This will be hard for them, because endomorphs thrive on praise received and praise given. They are generous of heart, and this generosity, rewarded in fantasyland, works against them in the real world mating arena where good-looking women mercilessly cull the niceguys from the selfish jerks.

Endomorph game should play to his strengths and minimize his weaknesses. That means capitalizing on his ability to incite emotion in girls, and on his affability among people in larger groups. An endomorph can lock a girl in hard by focusing on connecting with her — his listening and sympathy skills are world class — but to get there, he first has to attract them on a deeper, animal level, and this will require channeling his sociability into a more seductive frame. He will be very good at sparking girls’ imaginations because his psychological locus is Epicurean in nature. Detailed and thrilling descriptions of food, adventure, fashion and vacations are his forté, and girls will glom onto that because the female mind is attuned to detail and pleasures of the flesh. An endomorph can also use his naturally slow-moving countenance to great effect: a fatter man can be seductive with the right body language, and slower is almost always superior to quicker, so the endomorph has a built-in advantage here.

Endomorphs are natural disqualifiers, even if they don’t know it. An endomorph has a refined taste in life’s pleasures, and he can use this taste to judge women for their appreciation of the things that he values. Most endomorphs are all too happy to allow women to disagree with their own love of the finer things, but a honed ability to stop accommodating women’s shit tests and to call them out for their provincialism will work to the endomorph’s benefit.

Endomorphs should dress sharp. The sloppy, casual look that a mesomorph or ectomorph can pull off will make an endomorph look like a homeless bum; a homeless fat bum. Endos need to accentuate their bigness and their sumptuousness; that means no tight t-shirts and no wifebeaters. A custom-fitted suit that emphasizes the barrel chest of the endomorph is a good call, as is any style that draws attention away from the gut and toward the chest and shoulders. Some endos can rock the Tommy Bahama (the official sportswear of the fat man), but that is a personal call that depends a lot on chest and shoulder girth. The look you want to shoot for is “big man on campus who will dwarf his woman”. A lot of petite chicks like that physical dynamic. This is why you see so many tiny girls on the arms of powerlifters with huge round guts.

In summary, endomorph game should be adapted toward building value through social fearlessness, humor, deep rapport and savvy group set management. Endomorphs will rarely get AMOGed because they are so friendly and sincere (and lacking in threatening mesomorphic musculature) that they put other men at ease. Once endos are welcomed into a group, which usually happens quickly, they have to avoid the temptation to be a group plaything, and instead to focus on separating the target from her friends.

Endomorphs need to concentrate on teasing girls, sometimes harshly with decidedly non-friendly negs or DQ pushes, because their natural joviality (their “pull”) and neediness will cause girls to expect that behavior from them. And once girls can predict your behavior, the game is over. An endomorph has to remind himself to be serious at times, for his congenital joyfulness can ruin intensely seductive moments. Endomorphs should be proud that their god-given ability to make girls feel good about themselves is a critical skillset of seduction, but they can sometimes rely too much on this ability to win women’s attention, at the cost of getting dropped into the niceguy discount bin.

If you are an endomorph, your game goal should be: Mixed sets, more edge. Try using your natural skill at working a room to your advantage. Piquing a woman’s interest is easier when you’ve cut her short to go talk to another girl or another group of people.

Endomorphs must, most importantly, avoid the urge to get down on themselves for their fatness. Unless you are obese, a little bit of chunkiness is no big deal, AS LONG AS you carry it with confidence. (Note: does not apply to women.) If you are an extreme endomorph, consider weightlifting and dieting down to a reasonable size before hitting the field. But don’t use an extra 20 or 30 pounds as an excuse to be a shut-in. That way only leads to Jabbaness.

PS Endomorphs must avoid the neckbeard. Buy a goddamned razor and a mirror, you poofy popinjays!

Your body type is




Tomorrow: Mesomorph game.





Comments


  1. Jackie Gleason game?

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    • *Ehem *
      Kevin Smith Game.

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    • Maybe you guys are too young to remember, but Gleason was, in fact, quite the ladies’ man in his day… über-Alpha in real life, if there ever was one.

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    • Think Babe Ruth. The guy was built like a fire hydrant, yet he could carry a woman on each arm. I worked with a (very) beta endomorph for 5 years. Before he began strength training, he was his wife’s “teddy bear” (and she flirted with any alphaesque man in her vicinity.) When he cracked the 350lb. barrier (last year, he sent me a video of himself on Facebook. He was still chunky, but he was curling 150lb. weights…), he became her “papa Bear” and suddenly her hands were nowhere near as busy with her hair as they used to be…

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  2. on August 14, 2012 at 1:15 pm colombian guy

    brilliant

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  3. Do MBTI next

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  4. Pretty much everyone should avoid the neckbeard. Unless you are 50+, wear suspenders, and have 30 years of experience as a UNIX system administrator. Then it’s OK, confidence-building, even. Otherwise forget it, men.

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    • There should be a primer for recovering betas as to “beards” versus “neckbeards”. I got a beard last year and have been getting many more IOIs from girls, even though previously a couple of girls told me they thought beards were ugly. I still keep the hair on my throat shaved.

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    • Knew a programmer in his early 20’s who had a neck beard and ONLY a neck beard. He would carefully shave the rest of his face except for his neck.

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  5. I am an endomorph and I feel insulted by that picture.

    My shoulders are broader and I do have a neck.

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  6. Heartiste pretty much skips over the ectomorph after presenting it.

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    • Maybe you’re just one of those overly sensitive ectomorphs.

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    • Did you catch that “tomorrow is mesomorph game?” That will no doubt be followed by a primer for us ectomorphs. Or us former ectomorphs. While that fit both my body and personality type for many years I carry too much gut to really be an ectomorph today.

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    • Do mesomorphs even need game?

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      • Nyk: Yes, depending on your definition of “need.” Being all cracked-out and dominating is attractive to some women but, like a basketball shooter or quarterback, you need to develop touch to get the most out of your abilities.

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      • Unfortunately yes. Though their exists a higher probability for the “freebie”.

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      • The fact is that not all mesomorphs *actually* look like Charles Atlas regardless of what that picture may tell you.

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  7. You’re comparing body types with temperaments, which isn’t 1:1. Are you looking at body types as genetic predisposition (i.e. ecto has smaller bone structure, endo has larger bone structure) or environmental (fat and lazy vs. active and health conscious)? The reason I say this is because I’ve “been” all 3. My natural predisposition is ecto as I have a naturally higher metabolism, but I’ve managed to go from 115lbs (underweight) to 215lbs (much more muscular but overweight) and finally settled on a 175lb cut meso frame.

    Mesomorph is the ideal body type (obviously), but you may want to note in your assessment that body type is can be modified through diet an exercise. I don’t think it’s plausible (and not all that possible) to go from one extreme to the other long term (i.e. endo will never “easily” stay in ecto shape and vice versa), but both ecto and endo can achieve meso permanently.

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    • It’s not the fat/muscle mass that define the body type, it’s the bone structure.

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      • on August 14, 2012 at 3:40 pm DonaldMcRonald

        While it isn’t 1:1, there is still a strong correlation. For example, Mesomorphs will have more testosterone than the other body types, which will generally make them more aggressive. The hormones which dictates your body type also dictate your personality to a large degree.

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      • I believe the meso/ecto/endo distinctions were originally based on bone structure, but fat-muscle ratio can change the appearance.

        For example, a meso who stuffs his face will appear endo. An endo who loses fat and gains muscle will appear meso. An ecto can put on muscle to look like a meso, or he can gain fat to look like an endo.

        Ecto is the most pliable body type. Arnold Schwarzennegger is a ecto who put on muscle to look like an meso. In his older age, he now looks more like his natural ecto selt.

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      • He is not ecto and has never been even before the muscles. On of the traits of an ecto is that they will never be able to build a lot of muscle

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    • You may have been 115 when you were 14 years old. You weren’t 115 at any point in your adult. Thus, you are not a natural ecto. You’re a meso who went through a growth spurt. Lots of people miss this. They’ll say things like: I weighed 80 lbs in 3rd grade! Yeah, then you grew up.

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      • I was still 115 at 17, then started lifting weights, bumped up to 130 at 18, then around 20 I kept lifting and hit 145. I was 145 until 22 when I started a serious strength training program and that’s when I saw massive beginner gains. I thought your “natural” growth spurt ends around 18.

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      • Dennis rodman grew after he was 20, i think he was only 6′ tall until a late growth spurt.

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      • Mileage can vary. I grew 1.5 to 2 inches after the age of twenty.

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  8. This series should be accompanied by a reader poll of self-identified somatype, so we can get an idea of the general physical and psychological disposition of this community. You could even include hybrid (meso-endo, meso-ecto, endo-ecto) types for granulation.

    My past discovery of Sheldon’s work shed a lot of light on my own disposition and has definitely altered the contours of my game and my physiological development from boy to man. It’s the kind of knowledge that young men should be deliberately exposed to but aren’t.

    As an ectomorph with a significant mesomorphic component, I’m naturally athletic and competitive, but if I were to fall into depression it would entail appetite loss and wasting away in introspective isolation, two things which are terrible for your body composition, confidence, and hence, success with women.

    I would predict that a plurality of readers here fall into this general category, as they are highly intelligent, but don’t put on muscle mass without serious effort and calculation, and their baseline confidence lags as a result.

    I’m sure you’ll cover it, but ectos should be playing the long game, with a diet emphasized on high quality protein and fat, with complex carbs to combat the overdrive metabolism. They have to learn to love to eat quality meals, not the junk foods that they grew up on which their metabolisms (but not their digestion) will accept for its sheer caloric value.

    Plenty of active time outside in the sun, as vitamin D is essential to mental well-being and will strengthen a finer bone structure, not to mention, if you’re going to be thin, being thin and tan is vastly preferable to being thin and pale, which will give off a horrible sickly vibe to any girl.

    Deemphasize cardio, lift heavier weights in shorter sets, with compound movements that activate the whole musculature, and get into sports/positions that reward momentary explosiveness rather than endurance.

    Learn good posture, how to walk fluidly, and above all, see a tailor so formal and dress ware doesn’t look ridiculous on you (a la Paul Ryan and his sloppy oversize suit jacket).

    Game-wise, as always, confidence is king, and pure ectos have to project happiness about themselves before women will be enticed, while learning not to sweat the small stuff, and brush off negativity. These concepts are generally good for all men, but particularly critical to those for whom they aren’t first nature not not give a shit about that which is meaningless or beyond your control. Avoiding over-thinking is key.

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    • on August 15, 2012 at 12:24 am immoralgables

      Comment of the night right here.

      Useful.

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      • +1 on the poll, less the hybrid option. The majority will opt gravitate towards this, since it does not isolate any extreme. True, no one will look like the archetype of the various morphs presented, but indicating the hybrid option dilutes self-image, thus application of each one of these series wont be internalized as effectively.

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  9. on August 14, 2012 at 2:40 pm isyouisorisyouaintmybaby

    Fatties are sexually revolting.* Disclaimer when you’re physically revolting to a woman there’s no redemption unless you’re really rich and she’s a gold digger or crazy desperate or just crazy. Mixed signals make me want to stab a m’fer. I can’t speak for all woman but that shit is annoying not attract or seductive.

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  10. Interesting…I may be a combo of all three. I have a skinny frame but I work out all the time and have muscles on it…yet I seem to have a personlity that’s closest to the endomorph.

    I guess that wouldn’t be a bad thing…better to have more weapons in your arsenal.

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  11. on August 14, 2012 at 2:58 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    Body shapes probably do correlate somewhat with hormones etc. Hormones affect personality, so there probably is something to the body shape/personality link. But one should be cautious.

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  12. Didn’t you guys hear? If you’re skeptical of the science behind this, you’re a liberal.

    Many of the most famous scientific papers start this way.

    [heartiste: let’s just say liberal psychologists and sociologists have a track record. and it isn’t a good one. so it makes sense to doubt the veracity of their claims and counter-assertions as one’s working premise.]

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    • Heartiste is so alpha he doesn’t need to capitalize.

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    • To me, the the advice based on these types sounds eerily similar to a horoscope forecast… Which we all know is highly scientifical.

      [heartiste: go to the links i helpfully included and read them. it’s more scientifical than you’d think. for instance, ugliness and criminal tendencies are correlated.]

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      • Heartiste – To me the ugliness/criminality correlation seems perfectly intuitive because, as we all know, ugly people just have a really really hard time in life. The beauty=good/ugly=bad phenomenon is known to anyone who’s observed life in the even the most transient superficial ways. I would personally be skeptical of ugliness corresponding to an actual predisposition to criminal deviance in terms of genetic sociopathic/psychopathic tendencies. I think it would arise from less opportunities in life and social stigmas due to ugliness leading to feelings of ostracism, misanthropy, and general rage.
        Any thoughts?

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      • I think there’s probably different factors at work here. Beauty is correlated with symmetric faces and well-proportioned bodies, which correlates with higher IQ and lower incidence of disease. Basically, the pretty ones are the ones who won in the genetic lottery, not just on the visual side but on general.

        And increased incidence in petty crime is correlated to lower IQ.

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  13. i adore Endomorphs. i find a gentle, gluttonous, funny and self assure man totally irritable

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    • sorry, i meant “irresistible!”

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      • A Freudian slip, also called parapraxis, is an error in speech, memory, or physical action that is interpreted as occurring due to the interference of some unconscious (“dynamically repressed”), subdued wish, conflict, or train of thought.

        Assuming this wasn’t a troll – most girls don’t pick handles like ‘a girl’

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      • i am not most girls. i am a girl.

        i was not trolling. i meant what i said.

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      • and what you said is that you find them irritable.

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      • We either believe in Freud, or evo psych. Not enough room for both of them.

        Gotta find another explanation. I like the hamster crash hypothesis below.

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    • Your hamster must have crashed before you could finish that sentence. A Freudian hamster flip.

      It looked like this:

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  14. Interesting…..I have a mesomorph body but have a number of the mentioned endomorph psychological qualiities. I think the science here, like all evo psych/bio science, is probablistic and not determenistic (obv). I think I developed the “class clown” extroversion because I was very short growing up. It was my way of having some sort of social status. It wasn’ until my 20’s when I hit the gym and reached a whopping 5’8″ that I was able to harness my extroversion into appropriate social skills with the opposite sex.

    I synthesized my renaissance erudition and “life of the party” demeanour into a confidence that allowed my vast literary/trivia knowledge, scintlilating wit, enthusiasm, affability, natural sympathy/ listening skills, and bawdiness to give me what I refered to for years as my “mojo”. Being good looking but short (the male curse) I realized I had to bring it in the personality, confidence, and adventure game. I approached the sex act the same way. I gave it my all with total confidence and determination. My motto was “fuck like it’s the last time you’re ever going to fuck.”

    I think the best compliment I ever got that summed up how I operated was from Jillian, the younger 18 year old sister of two sisters I was given the blocks to for several months at age 27. She said I was the best because I knew “how to work it” (her words).

    In my mid 30’s now. I need to reclaim my mojo. Somehow I’ve gotten lost in the last few years. Thanks Heartiste for reinvigorating my enthusiasm!

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    • > have a mesomorph body but have a number of the mentioned endomorph psychological qualiities.

      Ever heard of a Barnum (or Forer) Profile? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect

      It’s pretty easy to write a personality profile that matches people’s own self-image. You just wait, when you read the personality profiles for ecto- and mesomorphs you’ll think they kinda describe you too.

      (Not that I’m dismissing the idea that body type and personality are correlated, they certainly are.)

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      • Yeah you’re right. I was recently reading “The Self Illusion: How the Social Brain Constructs Identity” by Dr. Bruce Hood where he cites a study using one horoscope made up of generalities based on, I think it was, the 5 general personality types (I’m going off the top of my head here). Everyone identified with this horoscope. It’s just fun to comment.

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  15. This is brilliant, simply brilliant.

    As a man with a therapeutic background i have experienced Sheldon’s constitutional psychology in action and it is indeed a major tool within Humanistic Psychotherapy. But to apply it to Game in this way is incredibly useful, just a wonderful gift. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

    Yeah, the liberal types rail against Sheldon, because it goes against the “All the kids must have prizes” mentality. But knowing the three types helps any man immensely with his personal growth and self-knowledge.

    Another commenter mentions the hybrids, which I think it is important to acknowledge (I am an Endo-Ecto). For readers who feel they may not quite fit the single constitution model I would say wait until Heartiste has published articles on all three types and look at the overlaps. With a touch of self-awareness you can probably find your hybrid type without help.

    I am really looking forward to the other articles in this series. For men looking to use their awareness of thier own psychology to ramp up their game, this is invaluable.

    As i am not Mezo I find it difficult to act spontaneously but I will be trying some the suggested techniques in this article.

    Thank you again.

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  16. Even to someone who is amenable to HBDism, this sounds a bit dodgy — yet it matches anecdotal experience very well.

    Anyway, I’ll register myself as another ecto-meso. It seems like a pretty good type to be on the whole, though the balance between the best of worlds and the worst is probably more precarious than with any other.

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  17. Shouldn’t the target’s (woman’s) body/hormonal type be included as well? Both genders share some overall common characteristics which makes it possible to profile women (and men) as a whole. But if gearing game to a man’s body/hormonal type could turn out to be helpful, wouldn’t gearing one’s game to a specific girl’s body/hormonal type also increase one’s chances with that specific girl?

    Also, would couples (regardless whether they mean to be together for a night or a lifetime) be generally happier if they matched each other’s body/hormonal types? The jovial,sincere, food loving endomorph guy might have the best time with the maternal, kind endomorph woman, who’s, probably, a good cook and, overall more likely to be domestic. The uber alpha mesomorph with his ruthless focus on the present and getting his needs met through physical means might match best with the slim-hipped, big boobed, aggressive and sexual mesomorph woman. While the naturally introverted, independately minded, intellectual ectomorph man would be most likely to dig the chick who is prone to self reflection and can actually hold a conversation a few levels above small talk. Also, since the ectomorph is so sensitive to stimuli, he, probably, has a higher level of disgust for imperfections, and he’d happily trade flashy assets for the absence of obvious (to him) flaws in a woman. Meaning, he’d be willing to forgive small boobs and brown hair as long as the girl didn’t have any far rolls- which would be an ectomorph body type on a girl.

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  18. I am fat (and was much fatter until I started losing weight this year) but I’m much closer to an ectomorph than an endomorph personality wise and always have been.

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  19. I am an extreme endomorph. One way to add an edge without really breaking personality is to use the back turn/freeze out and “jealousy” things often. Girls around me know that I need them to be entertaining/interesting. If they’re not, or if they do something out of line, I simply start talking to someone else, even if that means turning my back on them and giving them the cold shoulder.

    I do regularly call girls out on their crap. (One recently told me I was the only guy who ever did/does.) An advantage for the endomorph is you can be pretty (read: very) harsh with a woman who knows you because its so out of character for you to be “mean” that they seem to figure they deserve it if you do it.

    The downside: I really do need approval to shore up my self esteem. Also, my game has to be TIGHT. Missteps that a more physically attractive guy will get second chances on get me kicked out of the game. I have to be right on nearly all the time.

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  20. Oh, and the tiny chick/big guy thing is dead on. I am drawn to 5’4″- 100lbs women and they seem drawn to me. I think its the need for protection that does it. Not a bad deal.

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  21. Is the federal government stockpiling ammo in anticipation of a coming domestic insurrection?

    Fedgov has a ridiculous paranoia about the United States turning into Syria, but I don’t see any possibility of that happening. The worst I see happening would be riots, a la Athens last year. Face it: unlike Arabs, your average obese American dude is in no shape to fight a war against anybody.

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  22. on August 14, 2012 at 4:27 pm Amanjaw Marcuntte

    It doesn’t promote equality so it MUST be pseudoscience! QED

    Besides, anyone with a basic sense of observation can see that Game doesn’t work at all. I mean do you seriously think women would reward bad behav- nonono shutupshutup!

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  23. Nailed it pretty much Heartiste. I’m a big’un. My general style tends toward Sigma – “f*** all y’all Alphas and your silly ass little games. Takes a big dog to bury a big bone.” I only play an alpha role at work or home when it has a purpose; it’s not my default mode. You know why the 600 pound gorilla sits where he wants? Because he doesn’t give a s***. Confidence is so key. Easily adopted demeanors are large & in charge, or quiet/intense/a little scary (like a well-behaved mastiff).

    Things that work in confidence/image/approach:
    – Ignore your gut, at least mentally. Be un-self conscious about it. Seriously. Tell a girl you’re uncomfortable with your pants size and you make her nervous about her thighs. Don’t give a shit, and you’ll make her real comfortable, she’ll catch your confidence and love you for it.
    – Bespoke shirts (google custom shirts, korea, or vietnam or Thailand for budget options). Cufflinks, well fitted suits, quality (Churchill or Johnson & Murphy) shoes. Black T-shirts and rat rods are your friend. Old school cool and class works really well on a big man. Do not buy the 325i or the Porsche, trust me, the seat is not big enough for you.
    – To be large, do some things your own way. You can work a straightlaced profession be the only guy in the room with a major moustache if you’ve got the swarth for it – trucker, handlebar. You’ll get this comment: “Ordinarily I hate moustaches but it really works on you for some reason.” It’s the confidence, not the follicles.
    – Get in touch with your athletic self. Bikes, paddling, weightlifting, general outdoorsmanship build confidence-building health, and offer places where a big man can shine – but learn what you’re good at and do it. It will defy the stereotypes and make girls intrigued. Warning: you’re going to suffer on hills on that bike. Stick to the flatter places.
    – Never worry about the gut but get fit. Take some martial arts training, preferably a fighting art. Nothing builds genuine confidence better than knowing that if it comes to it, your size & skills mean that few people in the room pose a threat.

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    • Black T-shirts and rat rods are your friend. Old school cool and class works really well on a big man.

      I’d hardly call that class. Quite the opposite. And btw, it’s Churches shoes.

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  24. I think the most interesting part of this post was the poll. Lots of Meso’s as one would guess, but a surprising number of ectos as well, which makes me think that there are alot of self-conscious “improvers” who frequent this site looking for an edge in their game.

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    • Also, I have the best big hanging dong of an avatar

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    • Or as I suspect there are a lot of s skinny dweeb types who can’t get laid 🙂 Females hate this body type. I guess that it subconsciously reminds them of a boy, sort of like a short guy does.
      A lot of females though like the “bear” type man. I guess that in their minds bigger is better whether taller or heavier. This does not mean obese or that you look like the garbage man in a wifebeater and big belly but that you have that big bearlike physique.
      Game won’t work because females are very visual and will eliminate you before you can even open your mouth. There’s a certain look that they will reject and it’s not just based on body type although short guys will almost always be rejected especially if you’re really short like 5’2″.
      Females will reject a guy on ugliness when it’s the sort of common ugliness but not if it’s a unique ugliness.
      http://www.fanpix.net/picture-gallery/jean-paul-belmondo-picture-13603736.htm

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      • Bogey’s the classic example of “unique ugliness”… and what woman doesn’t cream over Casablanca?

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      • Me, remember? But, more and more, I think his character does the right thing. He knows he’s not the man her husband is and that she’ll be happier with him. Drunk owner of a nightclub vs. man fighting a cause. I’ve known men like that: who don’t or won’t live up to the potential I see in them. Like it or not, those men are best left behind.

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      • Not the point… she was ready to abandon her hubby and go with Rick. It’s obvious throughout the movie that there’s no real passion between Ilse & Victor.

        I’ve known men like that: who don’t or won’t live up to the potential I see in them. Like it or not, those men are best left behind.

        Woman say versus woman do… you continue to swim in the chateau’s pool yet remain dry.

        Still, I guess it’s better to have you sashaying about, lest this place be a total sausage fest.

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      • Sure, she was, but it was just a temporary passion that would burn out quickly. There was no basis for a lasting relationship. If I remember correctly, she believed her husband was dead. If she didn’t love him (feel duty towards him) she wouldn’t have gone back to him when she found out he was alive. There is a distinction between love and only passion.

        “Woman say versus woman do… you continue to swim in the chateau’s pool yet remain dry.” What do you mean? Feel free to contact me privately as I have no wish to clog up the blog. Just make it clear who you are. I have received several im requests (including one from someone really handsome!) but I have declined them, not because I want to be rude, but because I prefer an initial email so I know who I am speaking to and how the person knows me.

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      • Sure, she was, but it was just a temporary passion that would burn out quickly. There was no basis for a lasting relationship. If I remember correctly, she believed her husband was dead. If she didn’t love him (feel duty towards him) she wouldn’t have gone back to him when she found out he was alive. There is a distinction between love and only passion.

        Hamster-spin.

        Feel free to contact me privately as I have no wish to clog up the blog.

        Naw, it’s not that pressing an issue.

        As far as clogging up the blog, we’d have to get in line.

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      • GK, you really need to watch the movie again and pay attention. Rick was far from just a drunk night club owner for one thing (gun runner against two fascist countries, on the Nazi’s list). Rick was the kind of guy men respected and women wanted. Lazlo primarily men (women only got interested because of the respect men gave him).
        As to Ilsa… really? No passion at all for her husband at any point. If you pay attention, it is all on Rick to do the right thing in the end. It took minimal effort on his part to get her to the point to tell him to “make the decisions for both of us”. He does the “right thing” because he is a man, but everyone knows Ilsa still wanted him as she boarded the plane with the man she had a school girl crush on (when she young and because all the men respected him). If it was done today (and there are various ripoffs of the story), a woman would have written it so Ilsa stayed with him, leaving nice guy Laszlo on the plane by himself.

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      • This is your idea of ugliness? http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/3355050259/

        I mean, he’s nothing special by 40s movie star standards, but he’s on the handsome side of the bell curve.

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      • That’s about as good a picture of the young Bogey as one could find, and certainly not what he looked like in the vast majority of his movies.

        I just saw Key Largo the other day, for example, and while Bacall looked pristine, they did an awful lot of close-ups on his phiz, and this was about the most flattering:

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  25. From what I was taught as a therapist, Endo does not necessarily mean fat, but softer, more open. If one is a hybrid that also changes the constitutional model. Look at Sylvester Stallone who is almost certainly Endo. Stallone is emotionally aware, cultured, a people person, slow, dresses sharp. You would not think of Stallone as fat, yet neither is he slim.

    On mapping constitutional types for dating (pace a commenter above) I think this is the road to hell. Would you really date a woman becasue she was like you?

    Where constitutional type awareness might help, and i intend to check this out, is in understanding the tempo of your female challenge. I suspect that knowing a woman’s constitutional type would tell you a lot about the tempo of her speech and mental processes and help you to control the frame. Heartiste, I would really appreciate your view here, because I am speculating based on the article. However it is an interesting hypothesis. If you already know better I would be pleased to be corrected.

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  26. Endomorph = House Party
    Mesomorph = Night club/bars
    Ectomorph = Day Game or otherwise 1 on 1 and more private venues

    Thoughts?

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    • I’m endo-meso, and I like private venues more than clubs and house parties.

      But I’m afraid of a Yareally backlash, so I’ll just say that I probably don’t have enough game.

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    • I agree 100%

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    • Interesting point. I’m definitely Endo and have my best strike rate in house parties and social circle game. Basically 0 in the other two.

      As a mostly unrelated aside, male looks seem to become disproportionately important to women the more liberal the society.

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      • Do you do better in house parties because of your body type or because you don’t have as much experience working clubs etc compared to hanging with friends? Or because you’re more self conscious or feel like there’s more competition etc in other environments? Or because you don’t know how to project your voice over loud music? Or are more nervous cold-approaching in a room full of strangers over warm-approaching at a house party? Or don’t believe you can get (or simply don’t want) certain types of girls (shit-testing girls with their guard up vs easy chill laid-back girls at a house party) over others? Or believe that a house party is easier and create your own self-fulfilling prophecy?

        When Tyler first appeared on the scene he HATED nightclubs. You can read his old posts in his archives about it…he started out as a daygamer and did fine with that. He had no idea how to game in clubs/bars and he had the exact same complaints that every other guy new to night game had (loud music, competition, bitchy girls, etc). He posted a bunch asking for advice and posting his frustrations and basically forced himself to learn to do night game. Now he and his instructors are probably THE most solid night game PUAs out there. His body type was irrelevant, it came down to game and forging the right skillset for the environment he wanted to game in.

        If he had gone “oh well I’m this body type and a man’s gotta know his limits so I should just stick to daygame” we wouldn’t have half the techniques we use today. But he understood that being in this limiting headspace was useless and just going to hold him back.

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      • You’re probably right, as getting the right open has always been the hardest part for me.

        I’m thinking it’s also societal/cultural. In the (liberal, Nordic) nightclub scene, it’s just about the looks (and maybe being African) and washboard abs. The deck’s stacked against me on that front and capitalising on my obvious alpha creds (lawyer, phd – which helps with the lawyercunts as they are outcredentialized). Or maybe I just go to house parties where the hosts beat the crap out of any wingmen I’ve ever had in a nightclub. I also have anecdotal evidence of considerably better bar/nightclub performance in more conservative cultures, but I of course benefit from the “exotic viking” aspect there, myself.

        Personally, I’m consciously refusing to accept my “body type” after the damage I’ve done to it over the past few years. In the short term, it’s probably costing me a lot of pussy, but I’m counting on that as a motivator to hit the gym now that I’m free of the indentured grad school servitude.

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  27. This nails exactly how the endomorphs I know with good game play it.

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  28. RE: Wingmen. Both Endomorphs and Ectomorphs should seek an Endomorph for a wingman. Avoid the Laurel and Hardy look at all costs.

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  29. Next up: how to game based on your zodiac sign!!!! Do you have brown hair instead of blonde?? Here’s the method for YOU!!!

    All the personality stuff in this is retarded. The looks advice is good tho (own your size and understand that girls like that you can protect them, wear a pimp suit instead of a wife beater showing your man-tits, lift some weights so you’ve got some beef instead of just fat, etc). Not because girl’s give a shit but because it shows you’re 1) socially competent/savvy, 2) you take enough pride in yourself to take care of your presentation, and 3) you’ll feel better about yourself when you look in the mirror which will reflect in your attitude around women.

    Bullshit broad paint-strokes based on completely arbitrary shit like “Where endomorphs are weak is in their neediness for approval and in their aptness to slip into “entertainment monkey” game.” just fuck with guys. Some already aloof endo read that and said “oh what? I’m a dancing monkey, okay time to be more aloof” and is now standing in a corner ignoring all the girls wondering why he’s not getting laid. And some clown-ass ecto read that and said “oh endos are more entertaining so I’d better step that up in my game!!” and is now running around with a seltzer bottle and clown nose.

    Society stereotypes and categorizes and labels because chaos is scary to them. It’s scary when something doesn’t follow the labels/rules it’s supposed to. That’s why your friends hold you back when you try to learn game, they want you to stay in your label they have for you. That’s why guys avoid approaching and say “oh that’s just not me. I’m an introvert and introverts behave like blah blah”. That’s why guys with money can’t accept that tons of guys are getting laid just as much or more without money. That’s why girl’s don’t want the “nice guy” to learn game and become an “asshole”.

    Learning pickup involves stomping all over the faces of limiting beliefs and labels, both your own and the ones society tries to trap you in (including scientists who don’t get laid and their gay “studies”, these guys wouldn’t be able to comprehend half the shit we can do in the field).

    Tyler said it best: “Put me in ANY one of your bodies and I’ll pick up. Exactly like I do now.”

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    • just to clarify: I’m not saying a big fat guy doesn’t have to focus on different parts of game than a small skinny guy. Both have to demonstrate that they can protect the girl and connect with her blah blah blah

      I basically take issue with your body type determining your personality and your game strengths/weaknesses. The aloof endo and the aloof ecto

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      • boooo my fatty fat fingers bumped Send too soon lol plz delete!

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      • “I basically take issue with your body type determining your personality and your game strengths/weaknesses.”

        It seems likely that the connection between body type and personality type is that body type is a function of personality type. Your personality determines how much you exercise and eat to a great degree.

        Your body type, like your body language, also affects how your personality is perceived by others. For instance, the point about endomorphs working well with mixed groups because they aren’t threatening to other males is spot on. A more fit body type is going to raise red flags, while a skinny dude is more likely to arouse other males’ bullying instincts.

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      • “Your personality determines how much you exercise and eat to a great degree.”

        Dunno, hit up the bodybuilding.com forums and you’ll find tons of both shy low self esteem introverts and overly confident alpha jock extroverts all working on their bodies for various reasons but at first glance they all look the same.

        ” For instance, the point about endomorphs working well with mixed groups because they aren’t threatening to other males is spot on. A more fit body type is going to raise red flags, while a skinny dude is more likely to arouse other males’ bullying instincts.”

        This is as silly as the “what if both guys have exactly equal game but one is better looking huh??” question (two guys don’t HAVE the same game, it’s not an RPG stat you can compare down to a %, the whole question is mental masturbation by guys who don’t go out stressing about ridiculous hypothetical scenarios).

        Yes, if each of those 3 body types just sits down with a mixed group and motionlessly stares straight ahead for 10 minutes, they’ll get those responses. But that’s not a thing that happens. You sit down and you engage the people in the group, like a normal human being, and use some game to win the group over. The 1.5 nanoseconds that their subconscious judged who you might stereotypically be based on yours looks is completely steamrolled over by your personality and the interaction.

        It’s like asking “well girls like big penises so if a small penis guy and a large penis guy both approach a girl naked then she’ll like the large penis guy right?”. This isn’t a scenario that happens in the real world unless you are completely socially retarded lol

        In fact this ENTIRE article (no offense, I heart heartiste) just REEKS of approval seeking and “how can I get everyone to like me and risk the least amount of social pressure or bad feelings” which is by default worrying about what everyone may hypothetically think about you in some scenario where you display absolutely no personality at all.

        ugh. The next article might as well be “how to attract girls based on how much money you have in the bank” or “based on what color of shirt you’re wearing…red could be perceived as a THREAT so if you wear a red shirt make sure you make more jokes than when you wear a blue shirt!! Change your personality to fit into what you think other people will like, don’t think for yourself, don’t express yourself as you are, just suck up to everyone because it’s impossible to recover from a bad hypothetical first impression!!”

        didn’t expect to rant this much on this topic lol. Originally I was just going to write “lol retarded.”

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    • just to clarify: I’m not saying a big fat guy doesn’t have to focus on different parts of game than a small skinny guy. Both have to demonstrate that they can protect the girl and connect with her blah blah blah

      I basically take issue with your body type determining your personality and your game strengths/weaknesses. The aloof endo and the aloof ecto will run into the same problems. The dancing monkey endo and dancing monkey ecto will run into the same problems. An aloof/monkey mes will run into the same problems as the other two guys.

      And if you haven’t met an aloof endo or a dancing monkey ecto, you need to go out more, meet more types of people from a wider variety of social circles, and watch more of them interacting with women.

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      • (for the record I took two chicks off a massive aloof intimidating bodybuilder and his extroverted yappy ecto buddies this weekend. Big aloof dude needed to be more interesting/fun and the ectos needed to tone it back and DQ more)

        When you go out enough you don’t even see guys physical appearance, all you see is their vibe and you can summarize who they are, what their personality type is, how good their game is, what style of game they run, what moves they’ll make, etc in an instant. Chess is still chess and is played exactly the same way whether the pieces are carved out of wood or just rocks with a letter on them.

        (also the bodybuilder didn’t kill me tho he clearly wanted to punch me all night lol but I was using standard Mystery Method (ignore her, befriend the group, make her chase me) so he couldn’t justify punching me. He knew I was doing SOMETHING but couldn’t tell exactly what or how to stop it. She made fun of him later after we fucked and were talking about the night)

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      • One more lol:

        On top of being a ridiculous notion to begin with, this article is also completely ignoring the concepts of frame control and self-fulfilling prophecies. If you’re an ecto and you fill your head with this garbage and walk up thinking “okay I’m an ecto so this group is going to be more likely to bully me”, you are going to get bullied. Not because you’re an ecto but because your sub-communications all aligned with your expectations and they picked up on it and, since most people ping off their environment for how to react, they do exactly what you expect and bully you.

        If you’re an ecto and go up fully expecting the alpha guys to respect and like you, they will. This is like the guy who has no money approaching. If he doesn’t give a shit about having no money and still expects the girl to like him, she will. If he’s stressing that he doesn’t have a BMW and she probably only likes guys with BMWs, it will go bad.

        Another example is learning martial arts and gaining confidence and exuding a vibe that you aren’t to be messed with…suddenly people stop messing with you like they did before you developed that vibe. Same with a guy who can handle shit-tests…he stops getting shit-tested as much because girls can sense that.

        This is especially true with girls who ping off their environment for how to react more than guys do. “what you feel, she feels”. If you 100% believe and expect your size to creep her out, it will, if you expect it to make her feel like you can protect her, it will. She’s looking to you for how to react because as a man your frame is supposed to be stronger.

        There are just so many things wrong with this article on so many levels and the entire science behind it reeks of ivory tower type lack of seduction experience.

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    • I agree. There’s some wisdom here but it shouldn’t be taken too seriously. Fat guys should avoid tight shirts and tank tops. Got it.

      The BS starts with the division into three body types. Body shape, like all other human qualities, lies on a distribution (probably a lopsided bell curve biased towards the fat end). We don’t have fancy-sounding pseudo-Greek names for tall guys, average guys and short guys, do we?

      Drawing lines between the groups is pretty arbitrary. And indeed, being a borderline-endomorph is much more like being a mesomorph than it is like being a really fat guy.

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  30. Endomorph game.

    This guy looks like Jabba the Hutt and is a security guard. She’s hot. What’s his secret?

    http://ten.com.au/video-player.htm?movideo_p=47997&movideo_m=213351

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    • >>>This guy looks like Jabba the Hutt and is a security guard. She’s hot. What’s his secret?

      That sounds like the premise of the next Kevin James movie/TV show!

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  31. A big part of the genetic recipe for producing an endo-morph may be the low amount of unconscious, non-purpose-ful muscle activity they engage in. When they sit down, they just sit there. At the other end, ecto-morphs are typically squirming and twisting.
    This might well be a cause and an effect of their personalities.

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  32. on August 14, 2012 at 10:26 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    A woman wrote this post, I’d put money on it.

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  33. What body type would you say Pierre Woodman is? He’s not fat enough to be endo,not muscular enough for meso,and he’s definitely not ecto.

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  34. Let me have men about me that are fat,

    Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights.

    Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look.

    He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous.

    – W. Shakespeare, “Julius Caesar”

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  35. Endomorph here, and I must say the description for the temperament is about 60% accurate. I don’t express emotions THAT externally as described. I’m mostly a chilled guy. On the other hand, I kill in confort stage, even in my early high-school stage (when I was real fat) I could chat with a girl for a long time, but I never escalated (I hadn’t taken the red pill yet).

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  36. Endomorphs tend to bring out the dark side of me. My gut reaction to their presence is that I want to kill or maim them severely. I have only acted on this instinct a few times,; with mixed results.
    Deep sub-gut thinking is that they are seemingly female in so many ways and yet they bluster thru life without bearing a functioning pussy, therefore they are, at the end of the day, a useless monstrosity; just another low rent crime against nature awaiting judgment day.

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  37. Everything (in life…not just pickup) comes down to frame control. The reason alpha and beta as a binary system is useful is because alphas live in their own frame, and betas are easily pulled into other people’s frames.

    Recovering betas have a lot of trouble adjusting to the fact that alpha is pure self-direction. There is no instruction manual for most people. Your personality will determine your style. You are subject to the laws of attraction, but reading this website all day will never help you find your style. I like how posts like this one start to address different personality types. I don’t really think this distinction of ecto/endo/meso makes much sense though. A person’s physical appearance is a function of lifestyle habits and genetics.

    Norm Macdonald is my favorite comedian ever, and dated Elle Macpherson near the peak of her fame..Watch this video of him on Conan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RrRpcFTDV0&feature=related.

    Conan is the host, Gretchen is the hot chick, and Norm seems to be the “low-status” guest on the couch, but make no mistake: Norm is the alpha. Everyone in this clip is living in Norm’s world. The alpha just “is”…. he is never try-hard. Watch how he effortlessly “negs” Gretchen by calling her Kelly and telling her that her snowboard tricks look easy. Newbs make the mistake of trying to “neg” a girl while submitting to her frame. This will never work. Negs only work when you’ve established your frame up front (you cant come in weak and then go “surprise!” as I’m sure many have tried). And if you can establish your frame up front, and she likes it…you can do anything you want. She’s all over him by the end of the clip.

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  38. confidence, style, wit and gluttony, wrapped in the shape of a teddy bear is like foie gras. i prefer it to steak.

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  39. Stumbling around with unmuscled , flacid, comparatively slow moving bodies made of easily ingested, energy rich, and chewable lardflesh is a no more or less than making yourself into a loud ringing dinner bell for all the rest of gods creatures.to come loping around for their fair share of the ribs
    You are taking this far too personally.

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  40. It blows my mind how some people (eg lefty types) think our behavior doesn’t have anything to do with nature, biology, and ultimately evolution. The doctor in this video nails it at 31:40:

    http://rixstep.com/2/20111127,00.shtml

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  41. I think the vast majority of Heartiste readers are ectomorphs (like me) as the poll clearly indicates, because we are cerebral and love theorising and thinking about “game” and all this jazz.

    Most endomorphs are too pessimistic about women to ever devote much thought and effort to “game”. They think that, because they’re fat, they don’t have much chance with women, so there’s no point even trying.

    As for mesomorphs, well… Those lucky bastards don’t even need “game”. They can just take off their shirts on the most flimsiest excuse and all the women will swoon.

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  42. A mesomorphic body will aid you greatly in your pick-up endeavors.

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  43. on August 15, 2012 at 12:49 am Pantless Wonder

    SOME fat guys look like mucho fun and take it easy yes? And y no? Life is short so why not eat what you can and not give a shit about your weight unless of course you are TOO much fat. There are a lot of fat guys I would trade places with instantly what with all the hot chicas they get . Only in USA There is this inexplicable anger,envy and hatred when a fat or bald or older man is with a mucho sexy chica. The irony is that USA is fattest country on earth.SMH…

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  44. Ecto/mesomorph I really could go either way depending on my level of training.

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  45. I must be an endo/meso hybrid.

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  46. It is important to note here that correlation does not amount to causation. Fat guys tend to be more jolly, muscular guys more dominant, and skinny guys more introverted, sure. Simply from those observations, though, we can’t determine causality.

    For instance, perhaps a skinny guy became introverted because he got pushed around at school… or an introverted guy never put on muscle because he avoided team sports and going to the gym with his mates… or there was a third factor that caused him to become both skinny and introverted. Causality is impossible to tell.

    Most probably, people’s personalities and appearances result from a multitude of factors all working in unison, heavily prone to ‘butterfly effects’. It is not that any body type inherently has a certain personality, but that they are associated thanks to the build up of small effects of decisions and experiences over time.

    I mention this because our appearances and personalities are both highly malleable. Use this advice if you will, but there’s no need to lock yourself into a particular somatotype or style of game, particularly given that the science behind this is not merely ‘unsettled’ but extremely dubious.

    And no, I am not a liberal, and yes, I have read the papers and critiques involved here.

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  47. Seems logical, though cause and effect are hard to separate. May not be that relevant though.

    Exercise–>mesomorph
    Overeating–>endomorph
    Neither–>ectomorph

    I would guess there are more endomorphs than in sheldon’s time, though.

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  48. Aw yeah. McKayla Maroney. Note how she has her chin down and eyes up –the look-up look, in EVERY photograph. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2188051/McKayla-Maroney-bids-farewell-London-photo-diary-returns-American-soil.html

    Meanwhile, as for the post, can you add dogs to this? Like I figure the Endo should go with a laid back, non-violent, but still big dog like a Lab, while the Meso could/should, pull off a Rottweiler; the Ecto could pull a Rott too in a bit of contrast game; the Meso’s contrast would be those little white yappy high-energy dinks.

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  49. Very interesting!! Looking forward to the next post.

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  50. Re: Coming soon to a declining civilization near you: Male beauty pageants.

    “‘The Price is Right’ launches first search for a male model”

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/14/showbiz/tv/price-is-right-male-model-ew/

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  51. on August 15, 2012 at 10:29 am Pantless Wonder

    Guys like norm from cheers don’t strike me as pussy magnets and then again why not ? Women like fun guys . In USA ppl like to peg you as a loser who should stay in his place when a hot chick choses. a man who is older fat and bald or a mix of the three. Some guys especially spoiled arrogant young dudes get infuriated when they see one of “those “couples .

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  52. [heartiste: go to the links i helpfully included and read them. it’s more scientifical than you’d think. for instance, ugliness and criminal tendencies are correllated.
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    And skin (cough) color too right?

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  53. […] Heartiste – Beta Males Settle For Fat Chicks, The Right Game For Your Body Type: The Endomorph, TRGFYBT: Mesomorph, TRGFYBT: Ectomorph, Defying Your Body Type Temperament, Hamster Of The […]

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  54. Dude! For me, about 2/3 endomorph and 1/3 mesomorph, you really hit the nail on the head.
    You’re right about Sheldon, and about the leftists. Truth is not their goal, and they lie to suit their designs.

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