Manly Men Confused Why Unmanly Men Get Girls

Commenter aspic writes:

[W]hile i’m on the subject of [Neil] Strauss: he’s a metrosexual who comes across like a slimy worm. These are exactly the kinds of men who are inheriting the high positions in our society. See also: Obama.

I don’t know if Strauss comes across like a slimy worm, having never met him, but if video and pictures are accurate he does dress and comport himself with an urbane flair that violates traditional manly men norms. Strauss’ success with women using game and a deep understanding of female psychology reminds me of a quote from the anti-feminist prophet, Anthony Ludovici:

Among the vices of woman, “constantly characteristic of her,” [Ludovici] enumerates “(1) Duplicity and an indifference to truth; (2) Lack of Taste; (3) Vulgarity; (4) Love of petty power; (5) Vanity; and (6) Sensuality.”

If manly men want to know why unmanly men can outscore them in the sexual market sweepstakes, they need look no further than Ludovici’s stunning insight into the character of woman. The unmanly man, no leader of men he, can reduce women to puddles of swoonage because he drinks from their bottomless well of vanity, he lies to them prettily, he trades in the currency of sensuality, and, most importantly, he appeals to women’s “love of petty power” by exploiting relative social status differentials in microcosm. He is, in short, a leader of women.

This is how the manly men are outgunned. The manly man’s refusal, born of pride or disgust, to sink into the insufferable torments of the child-like, capricious, feckless world of women and frolic in it as if it were his own world leaves him exposed atop his hill, strong and dignified and self-righteous, to the cunning shamelessness of the unmanly man absconding with the women languishing under his paternal gaze.

Our current time — the decadence and silliness preceding the painful fall — is perfectly suited to the strengths of the unmanly man. He rules in this nebulous miasma that was once a culture. The manly men will have their day again, when the fall has swept away the last illusion and the weak are revealed uncompromisingly for what they have always been, but until then the manly men yield to the awesome power of the metrosexual with a nasally voice and a penchant for spinning riveting stories which may or may not be true.

This post Hugo Schwyzer approved.





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  1. Hmm, you just described Russel Brand

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 12:46 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

      YES!!! HEARTISTSESS!!

      I have oft stated thusly–today’s leading fiat masters invert alpha’s and betas.

      Note how the Weekly Standard repreats secreteive taper of buttcocker Tucker Max’s lies about his height and succeteh, while the Weekly Standard ignores the men fighting and dying in foreign wars on foreign shores.

      They honor Tucker Max wheymes with Goldman sax for jumping on a girl’s butthole and buyttcocking her while sercteily taping it, and they ignore the herooric marines jumping on grenades to save their firendss.

      True alphas–rugged, responible, manly, honorable men are cast as targets for women and the fed and the divorce industry to tax, traduce, and belittle.

      while the buttcockers, secrteive tapers of butthext, slimy little men, makeup-waering gamerz, are cast by th fiat masters as the alphas of all alphas, buttcocking the women and taping it secretly–soeting that Moses, nor Homer, nor Virgil, nor Jesus, nor Socrates ever saw as “Manly.”

      And so the GBFM rides with theGReat Books for Ment, instead of the fanboy/feministbuttcocking.scretive tapers of buttcocking/peackoning fiatocracy fiatcoracy fiatocracy zlzozozlzoozzoz.

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    • Katy Perry refused to let him get her pregnant. To his credit, he dumped her.

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  2. on October 19, 2012 at 12:06 pm gunslingergregi

    not in the post apocalyptic world i live in

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  3. Wait, so am I getting this right….unmanly men are attractive because he lies about…being manly? I dont get it

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    • You should work on your reading comprehension.

      Unmanly men outscore the manly men because they stoop down to the level of women. They have no pride. They’re walking dildos made to please women.

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      • Shit….it all makes sense now. A couple of months ago I had a friend whose girlfriend was swiped from under him.

        My friend, is a classic, fighter/gladiator-type alpha. Figured that the best way to remedy the situation is to challenge the other dude to a fight (in a boxing ring) knowing that the other dude will lose. Thus, emasculating him. The other guy acted tough like he is not afraid. The other guy even went as far as telling my friend that he will call the cops on him (for us manly men, that is a bitch move) Ultimately, though come fight day, he did not show up.

        My friend beamed with joy as he thought he made a fool out of the other guy and bragged to his ex that her boy did not show up, laughed and said they were a perfect match and she should marry him. Of course the gina tingles happened, but did not last very long.

        I think the girl and the dude is still fucking, and my friend right now is preparing for his first MMA fight. Alone. With no girl.

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      • lol but I thought an affliction wearing MMA guy would just instantly destroy any guy who even looked at his girl!!!!!!!

        Gee it’s almost like real life plays out different than jockey imagination. Funny, that!

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      • I used to do MMA but couldn’t get a girl until I became a PUA. Being a tough guy alone will not get you laid.

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      • Just pointing out the obvious here but, guys in MMA are perhaps there because they want to be tough, not because they are. The male version of the hamster = “I can kick anyone’s arse,” even if they can’t. MMA is just an outlet to validate the male hampster in many cases, but not all. If the friend in the story was actually “tough,” something tells me the girl would have shit her britches before ever considering trading down for some ambercrombie wannabe hipster.

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      • I don’t think you’ve ever been in an MMA gym if you think people who train aren’t really tough guys.

        Being physically tough alone will not get you laid if your mentality is still that of a beta. Physical toughness gives you dominance over men, not women.

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      • Remedy the situation? Hmmm. That’s when I would have showed up with a gun. Box this.

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      • MMA fighter? If he is good, and I hope he is, he will have Round Card Hotties that will put slut girl in the shadows of memory.

        We attract a greater number of women that seek the men who live the lifestyle we choose the more we live it. The more we succeed in that lifestyle, the higher quality those women will be.

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      • Exactly. Most women are not worth fighting over; Helen of Troy excluded who was a national treasure in beauty. They really are useless unless you’ve had children with them continuing your genetic line.

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      • They only went to war over Helen because of honor. Paris was one of these fag boys who let Hector do the fighting while he entertained the women.

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      • Great post, great insight, and great book lolz!

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      • (Same Anon) Yes. I like the fact the fag boy Paris is causing all the trouble while Hector is running around trying to clean the mess up. You even see that same dynamic in the movie Troy with Brad Pitt. Modern day analogy: Paris = metrosexual doing the fucking. Hector = traditional, honorable, married man getting fucked. There’s a trojo-greco-lesson here, I think.

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      • He maybe hadda oughta boxed her ears instead.

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      • Excellent point. Why are you blaming the other guy? She decided to leave. It’s her fault – her fault – her fault. I hate the “let’s have you and him fight” game using men as pawns on the chessboard of life while the queen piece sits in the back and watches. So fucking irritating.

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      • Your friends mistake was not his tough guy image, it was his beta insistence on worrying about one girl. That sends her the message that he needs her more than she needs him. She had control. He bought into a scarcity frame, when slutty women are scarcely rare. You can’t fight every guy that comes sniffing around your women, and if you have to do that you aren’t handling them properly.

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      • He fucked up, your friend should have smiled and encouraged the hipster fag to go for her. Instead, his antics served to show that he took hipster douche as an actual threat, hipster douche threatening to call the cops demonstrates intelligence – he knows he cant win a fistfight, so why bother? By not showing up he also demonstrates that he can waste your friends time. On top of it, he STILL goes for the girl anyway, which shows he actually doesnt take your friends threats seriously in any way at all.

        In the other hand, The laughing encouragement to go for the girl move is perfect. It shows he doesnt need the girl, it puts resonsibility for her decisions on HER where it belongs, it shows hes socially cool, and finally it demonstrates contempt for hipster fags girl getting abilities.

        The only time a man should get jealous is when someone goes for his wife, and even then, its not because he loves the bitch, but because it will wreck his social and financial standing among men. At that point, you do what you must because its business, not personal.

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      • Commend of the week… perhaps the month.

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      • Well analyzed. This is actually what I do, as well. I’ll tell my girl “I think that guy wants to fuck you, you should give him a chance he’s probably got a huge penis ’cause he does MMA and you know they’re all badass lol”

        One of the really old PUA tactics was: “Bro, help me out man, these girls are crazy. I’ll give you $50 to take these girls off my hands!” and you literally try to hoist them on him. The girls go “noooo!!! We like youuu!!” and cling to you more.

        MMA guy handled it completely wrong and 100% deserved to lose the girl. But hey, at least he can wrestle around half-naked with other men to work out his sexual frustration lol

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      • Very good… it’s an oddly-disguised passive/aggressive form of subservience to lesser beings masked as a type of ‘leadership’.

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      • What about beta males who has no pride who would take back a cheating ex because they can have sex. Hey, virtue is for those that can afford it.

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      • This is a direct result of puritannical misunderstanding of God’s Word.

        Restrictive religion teaches divorce is verbotten, as is sex outside of marriage. Devout religious guys will sacrifice their alphaness on the altar of religion due to the strength of their sexual drive.

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      • I think a lot of you have never even SEEN solid game in real life lol

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      • “Unmanly men outscore the manly men”

        This is never the case in my experience. An isolated instance of cuckoldry doesn’t equate to unmanly men winning on the whole. Virtually every instance of “winning” that I witness in field or have experienced personally ends with the victor being the manlier of the pair. The only exception I notce to this is young girls, in the 18-20 range (or younger). They have yet to experience the unsatisfying micro loaded micro peens of the beta male pretenders to know the difference between what type of man they would rather be pounded by. Pile on top of this, a greater desire to appeal to social standards (18 year olds should date 18 year olds), and you end up with beta male younglings and try hards occassionally winning over the hotties.

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    • They flatter women’s desire to believe that the ideal man is basically a chick with a dick, and maybe a scruffy beard.

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      • That’s a great way to put it. I was going to say I think these girls meet him, wonder if he’s gay, then the surprise they feel when he spits out alpha-like game makes their ginas tingle (and this sneaked under their guards, too, so the effect is amplified).

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    • He doesn’t lie about anything. He simply has no shame about pointing out that his daddy (The omnipresent gommiment) is manlier than any manly man, and that the way to get manly gommiment on his side, is to act like manly gommiment’s little bitch.

      At some level of manliness (read Afghan tribesmen), even Gommiments get outmanned. But not by flat footed, pickup truck driving, overweight, tax feeder supporting pseudomen, who spend their days doing bicep curls in front of the mirror to fill out their t-shirts, so that “maybe someone will notice me”; while spouting off about how tough they are for voting for some tax feeding leech babbling about having taxing someone to pay someone else to kick some further ones ass, or “protect us” from the mean, bad, scary brown skinned people who wants to say boo to us and, like, sell us bad scary drugs, and not let “our” women vote and other bad shit.

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      • You sound like a perfect example of such girly men.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 7:15 am Mr. Kissyface

        Yeah, goddamn, I want some of those Afghan tribesmen to come and straighten things out around here. Would love to live under their their infinite, school-girl-shooting wisdom.

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      • I didn’t say that. You’re taking things to extremes to create a straw man. Our world has tilted in favor of feminine ideals and vices. I think we could use more balance.

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      • Maybe I wasn’t on top of my game as a communicator. The point I tried to make was not that “you” should live “under” “their” wisdom.

        But rather that those guys don’t live “under” anybody’s anything. Which is both a good way to live and, ultimately, the only way to live; as evidenced by the sheer longevity of those cultures. While every instance of societies built around extolling bending over for assholes, have ended in collapse.

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    • It doesn’t matter who is the most masculine. The guy dominating the conversation and making her laugh is the de-facto alpha.

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  4. When I was younger (HS and college), my friends and I used to find some pretext to kick the shit out of guys like Strauss. It was probably a subconscious mechanism for making sure they didn’t take away our women, but at the time it just felt like a natural loathing of them. Girls tend to get a change of heart when they see a womanly man beaten down. Of course, I’m much more refined now.

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    • I never even thought of that. Fuck, I was just musing today on how much society has changed. When I was in school, it was socially acceptable and even *encouraged* to beat the shit out of guys like Strauss. Now, women put them on a pedestal. It’s fucking nuts. You can’t even call people fags or any of the other shit we did when we were kids because of some feminist politically correct language objective.

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      • I forget where I read it, but somewhere online I read somebody talking about how PC police love to try to cencor words. He said “The fact that we’re not allowed to call things retarded or gay is both retarded and gay.”

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  5. on October 19, 2012 at 12:26 pm Lucky White Male

    “He is, in short, a leader of women.

    Ha – this is fucking gold

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  6. on October 19, 2012 at 12:29 pm HolySwordFarewell

    We can only hope the natural order is restored sometime soon.

    One of the best things I ever internalized was to not treat women as if I was an equal, but that I was superior.

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    • The system is rigged to punish masculine traits and crush them out of men. Thus, you have a society of needy adult children with no sense of pride, respect or self-worth. These narcissistic dick sucks would have had these traits instilled in them by other alphas, but now if you slap a kid for acting a fool, you get thrown in jail and if that kid is yours, your wife gets half your shit.

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      • You mean she gets half your shit immediately then the other half in child support

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      • Don’t be silly, they get a lot more than that. Divorce isn’t about getting 50%, 80% or even 90%….it’s about getting 10,000%. She is gunning for everything you ever will have. Never forget that.

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  7. I live in NYC, capitol city of the metrosexual, and my understanding is that they’re able to do well with women because their non-threatening nature allows women to drop their bitch shields. While I do believe all women are subconsciously attracted to purely masculine traits, they are still on guard when a big bruiser walks into the room. But if a guy can connect with them about fashion or theater, but balance it out with a level of swag….I’d imagine it makes their panties moist instantly.

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    • I have lived in NYC off and on for years– – growing from beta to lesser alpha/ greater beta.

      Most “womyn” who choose to live in NYC come to it’s leftist politics, which naturally attracts the omega, the spergs, the wusses, and the sociopathic men, all without testosterone. That might be a nice change for a bit for a woman, but after about 3 months, if you even have a modicum of pride in your cock, women jump all over you, sick of the fags they deal with daily.

      I do not have a very “rugged macho” look (most people would say I fall on the pretty boy scale) but because I am damn proud to be a white straight male and don’t put myself down for it, some NYC women have told me that I am the most masculine man they have ever been with.

      It’s all relative there. But trust me: you can clean up among these sluts.

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  8. Funny… every time someone else makes these observations, the PUA street minstrels cry out “Dickless Omega!”, “Keyboard Jockey!”, et. al.

    This is why I like Heartiste… he may be sitting poolside, toasting marshmallows o’er the fires that consume Rome… but deep down he loves the Truth.

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  9. A lot depends on the woman. There are ones who swoon for unmanly men, there are ones who can’t stand them.

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    • Back in the day, it was called “Who’s Your Favorite Beatle?”

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      • That just blew my mind

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      • Pete Best.

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      • Alphie’s is Murray The K.

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      • Dood, that was the thread win right there.

        Exhibiting metrosexual/gay traits does double duty:

        1. It is a demonstration of “beta” traits that, if the man is truly alpha, becomes a demonstration that he is “so alpha” he can afford to gay it up and still swoop.

        2. I’ve seen this sail past b¡tch shields and land the guy in the sweet spot, over and over. I had a friend years ago who was the master of this. Women would wake up with him in their bed wondering how it all happened. Was a mystery (pun intended) to me back then. It’s not a mystery to me now.

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  10. on October 19, 2012 at 12:37 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    This post needs two words: “Sneaky fucker.”

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  11. on October 19, 2012 at 12:39 pm The Man Who Was . . .

    BTW didn’t you meet Neil at a book signing. I thought there was a picture of this in one of your old posts.

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  12. The problem with these guys is that they are usually clever. It’s hard to outsmart them.

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    • This is why healthy republics always seem to have some sort of ‘trial by combat’ or dueling customs.

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    • They are only “clever” in compensation: it is survival mode. They are quants and dandies and reformed omegas and actors who can cry on cue.

      Rather than becoming a “man in full” — mind, body, passion, spirit, deed — they double down on their strengths. Women are easily fooled, they want to be fooled.

      So they go with what they’re good at, and it works — at the expense of their manhood.

      Luckily, it’s not a zero sum game. Mimicry and disingenuousness are merely the easiest path to certain tactical goals. There is nothing saying that you cannot outwit as well as out-fight, out-class, out-spend, and out-shine (in terms of simple, laconic presence) these reformed D+D warlocks who found the Monster Manual of women.

      The partisans of the zero-sum mentality are the game ideologues who, because it led them to their first glimpse of manhood, believe their “venusian arts” are the best or only path to true manhood. Hence their immediate recourse to disbelief that we do not want their life, which leads to impenetrable skepticism about the nature of our experience. Their simple-mindedness leads to a stunted maturity. Video gamers and PUA gamers share the same arrested development: they can imitate and emote like men but cannot cope in a world of men.

      We are not “confused” why women fall for techniques any more than we are surprised when retards are enthralled by shiny things or when dogs chase squirrels. In the only milieu where women naturally enjoy the upper hand — the sexual marketplace — manly men of no other social experience are indeed subject to vertigo. The object then is to brief the man on the nature of his opponent (as game does), not to ask him to sympathize with and therefore become like his opponent (as PUA seminars and blogs do, at their worst).

      Neil Strauss reeks diminutive Jew metrosexual. I say, well done for playing a terrible hand — at least he walks away from the table with some winnings. But the high stakes tables are somewhere else, and the real jackpot is more than a pile of fishy cooze.

      Matt

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  13. So in essence you are describing a dandy.

    I think the traditional appeal of a dandy is that in olden times, only the weathly and powerful could afford to behave and act that way. They didn’t need to chop wood, fight or any of that traditional manly activities because their status allowed them to have others provide those services for them. They had the wealth to afford all the extravagant clothing and the fine wigs. It was simply old school peacocking expect no shit tests were thrown these guys way because they beyond reproach by the commoners.

    The same principle applied to fatness and have fair skin. Two extreme signs of low class today. However in medieval England, only the powerful could afford all the decadent food and be allowed to sit on their ass to become land whales and not allow their skin to be touched by the sun from working outside.

    However, I would disgree that unmanly men that you describing, not the manginas, have no place after a collapse. For this reason, they are master manipulators. They know how to play people in general. I think rarely in a built civilization is the absolute manliness man the king. It’s the guy that has the political and street smarts that comes out victorious.

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    • Giacomo Casanova was a dandy.

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    • Yes but even the dandies took fencing and boxing classes back then, now they don’t do shit. Any woman on the arm of Neil Strauss, when confronted with a mugger, would lose everything.

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  14. Strauss is the perfect illustration of adaptation game. He can’t compete on (normal?) masculine terms, so he’s found all the tricks to get around it. I personally find his style insidious, conniving, slightly creepy, and genius.

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    • Strauss would be a beta-builder, but long ago figured out today—as opposed to say, the 1950s or 1850s—-it is bad to be a beta builder.

      So he became parasitic; first a celebrity-tongue-fucking journalist for Rolling Stone and Vanity Fair, then a gamesman.

      Like the Comedian in Watchmen, he’s become a deliberate parody of society, openly mocking it with a smile and a laugh.

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      • Except the Comedian was a complete and total badass (sociopath?). I like the part in the movie where he nearly rapes Sally Jupiter, then Sally has that other guy help raise the daughter resulting from the union. Alpha fucks and beta bucks, again.

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      • Epilogue: I think we need Comedian game.
        “What would the Comedian do?”
        “Knock up a vietnamese peasant, then shoot her in the stomach and kill her when she decides to make you pay for the baby!” WWTCD? YEAHHHHH!

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      • Win.

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      • Actually, the Sally Jupiter-Comedian thing was a bit more twisted:

        The Comedian tried to rape Sally Jupiter, but is stopped by the gay member of the team, Hooded Justice (this is why, when Hooded Justice is beating Comedian in the film, the The Comedian laughingly asks if this is turning Hooded Justice on).

        Later, Jupiter willingly has sex with Comedian, which produces her daughter, that the beta-husband pretends is his own and takes care of. Knowingly, in the film, the beta husband’s name isn’t even given, as if he is a nothing.

        The Jupiter-Comedian dynamic shows just how insightful Moore is as a writer; he knows that even if a man beats a woman and (almost) rapes her, if he is alpha, she will welcome him back with open arms.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 7:23 am Mr. Pointyface

        You’re a inflated buffoon- a nobody. He’s a NYT bestseller millionaire author, and also now an emergency medical technician who actually helps people. What do you do? Sell shitty used cars? Nail together garages? Fleece ailing retirees with reverse mortgage scams?

        Millions of people pay to see what he thinks. Who does that with you or me? People who have the drive and intelligence to get where he is are very different from commoners. When commoners don’t know that it is very funny.

        Try, with your limited, limited intelligence, to become a “parasite” like a best selling author.

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  15. Great article, makes you think..

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  16. Very true:

    Now is not the time of Caesar, of Napoleon, of Washington, Adams, and Franklin, of leaders of men.

    Nor, therefore, is it the time for followers of the leaders of men, i.e. beta-builders.Those men who cannot lead themselves into greatness, but instead can be lead into doing great deeds.

    No, now is the time of the parasite.

    Game merely teaches would-be “leaders of men” and “beta men”, whose powers are no longer needed (and, indeed, mocked) to be more like the slimy parasitic men whose genes will go on.

    Those who scoff at game say it is contradictory that we whine about the world while enjoying all the parasitic values of cheap sex and safety.

    But adaptation is not acceptance. It is merely knowing that the ideal world is far from the present, and that the present cannot be remade, and will only fall into disrepair.

    So we sadly learn the only traits that will bring us any remaining pleasure.

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  17. Men don’t understand Neil Strauss because they judge with their eyes. Women judge the totality of circumstances.

    Neil Strauss is an established member of the media (i.e., former Rolling Stone reporter). While he is not manly (he’s Jewish after all), he has intelligently leveraged his media work (he’s Jewish after all) to gain access to rock stars and celebs and elevate his status.

    He is a very high status guy to a hottie, not to mention any of the other skills he picked up from hanging out for a few years with Mystery.

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    • Thanks, after what whorefinder wrote, I though I smelled Jew.

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    • Rolling Stone is a shitty fucking publishing journal though, so if women like him because of that then they are ignorant.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 6:49 pm driveallnight

        Wait. Women are ignorant??

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      • 4. Love of petty power.

        Female traits are basically everything that traditional manly men find disgusting. But it makes sense that they develop these slimy, pathetic traits since they don’t have the physical or mental strength of men.

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  18. on October 19, 2012 at 12:54 pm Lucky White Male

    This post would go back to the Masculine vs. Feminine Game debate

    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/04/24/masculine-game-vs-feminine-game/

    Krauser has also touched on Game and Masculinity: http://krauserpua.com/2012/07/24/are-you-a-mans-man/

    Interesting about Dean Martin, whom Krauser rightly references as a Man’s Man with Game — in the best biography you will ever read about any man — anywhere — “Dino,” by Nick Tosches, Tosches recalls Dean’s 2nd or 3rd wife basically resigning herself that her husband was going to cheat because he was basically “the most handsome man to ever walk the earth ”

    Yet Dino got laid purely as a Man. Manly game, not Feminine Game : Dino’s sexual m.o. was quick and easy blow jobs from the starlets on the Hollywood lots during the day- no excessive intanglements – he loved the ladies, but he was a married man to get home for dinner:

    When the girl inevitably wanted to “open up to him” and talk about her problems, and get closer, Dino would quip “Honey, if you want to confess, go see a priest”

    (Another story: Dino got home for dinner once and his dinner table was full of kids from both his 1st and 2nd marriages. Dino said: ‘Guess I fucked myself out of a seat.’)

    Sinatra, on the other hand, had “Feminine Game” – Sinatra understood women better – he was the better ” artist” because he had an inherent aesthetic, latently feminine sensibility that came out in his music.

    Sinatra was a “die hard romantic” – Ava Gardner, the most beautiful heartbreaker at that time said: “Sinatra could be the most romantic man in the world when he wanted to be”

    But unlike Dino, Sinatra would get too wrapped up emotionally in the legions of women he banged. And Dino thought all the pussy ups and downs affected Sinatra’s career – Two no-no’s for a “real man” like Dino -( who, by the way, was a multi-millionaire businessman bar none, parlaying his entertainment with extensive real estate holdings, stock in NBC, etc)

    In the end, the guy who got more pussy was arguably Sinatra, with “Feminine Game”. For example, longtime valet who was with him for 20 years in Rat Pack Era and basically saw everything said “No man on Earth ever got laid more than Frank Sinatra.”

    With that said, neither case, Sinatra or Dino, is there anything approaching the Metrosexual game of a Neil Strauss.

    The 50s and 60s were an era for Men – and when you watch movies from that era, listen to that music, even period pieces like “Mad Men”– it was a better time.

    To be Alpha, you want to understand women, be facile and conversant in their feminine world of emotions, signals, and feelings – … yet remain very much a Man

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  19. In a way, modern culture is just a Ponzi scheme. The best genetics fall for the cheapest tricks. It’s only a matter of time before the charade is up and the scheme goes bust.

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  20. I thought that game was to a large extent to show how non-naturals (manly men) can still get laid. Mystery, Strauss, and Tyler Durden were all dateless nerds who did the awesome nerdy thing of actually doing the field work, thousands of approaches, systematizing it, and then, in a nerdy masterstroke, noticing an underserved market and packaging it for sale to eager customers. So complaining that non-manly men can score is really complaining that game works.

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    • True; but its also “manly” men comign to the conclusion that what men admire is not what females admire.

      Sadly.

      But then again, feminazis make the same error when they posit that fat, ugly, but bitchy and career-driven women should be just as hot to men as those men are to women.

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  21. A metrosexual can socially lead and dominate manly men.

    Most of those manly men who look so badass chopping trees down and fixing cars, when you put them in a nightclub environment with thumping music, rich people, AMOG bouncers, smokin’ hot girls with bitch shields and high entitlement beliefs and ADD following the shiny object, guys in suits and blazers and beer-tub girls and shooter girls with their flirting on high and their tits falling out as they grope you and get in your face…

    Know what most of those guys do?

    Shit their pants and stand on death row with a drink up at their chest terrified because the environment overwhelms them.

    Know what an effeminite metro guy like Strauss does?

    Chats up groups of people, introduces groups of strangers to eachother as the social connector of the nightclub, shakes the bouncers and managers hands, chats up large sets of girls and flrts with them, then uses them to make other girls notice him, tools the manly men standing off to the side trying to look manly (takes their girls by socially dominating them while they stammer and go “uhhh ummm well I uhhh…” trying to respond to his AMOGs and getting sucked into his frame, looking like a chode in front of the girl compared to Strauss’ slick confident verbal skills), negs the hottest girls in the bar making them chase him around all night and takes a group of girls out of there for food, then takes one home.

    Put Strauss on a construction site and ya, he’s not going to seem very badass to any women around watching him fumble with a hammer. But are the hottest girls hanging around on a construction site or are they in a high-end nightclub? 😛

    Anyone getting caught up in manly VS un-manly is completely looking at the wrong channels. You’re looking at surface level shit that’s irrellevant.

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    • Perfect.

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 1:13 pm Lucky White Male

      Great insight

      As I say in my other post here, being moderated right now, you must be conversant and facile with the feminine world of women… and not just a “manly man.”

      Manliness is not enough by itself: you need to be able to handle yourself socially in an attractive, appealing, socially dominant way that is attractive to females.

      At same time, it is hard to see how a Neil Strauss could outperform a Krauser, for example, in terms of raw urgent sexual desire.

      Krauser being a “manly” type of “man game”. I cannot imagine a “9” say being more hard up to fuck a Metrosexual like Strauss than a cool as fuck masculine (yet equally intelligent) guy like K.

      K’s approach will trump everytime

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      • “I cannot imagine a “9″ say being more hard up to fuck a Metrosexual like Strauss than a cool as fuck masculine (yet equally intelligent) guy like K.”

        1) If you haven’t seen that happen, go out more. Stick around past last call when guys are aggressively competing for girls.

        2) It all comes down to who’s game is tighter that night and how/when they extract the girl:

        http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/advanced/271.html

        All it comes down to is if a Strauss can poke a single hole in a Krauser’s armor and seem 1% cooler than him at any point in the night, the girl will switch to him.

        Part of why I can take girls off rich, better looking guys than me, or manlier men than me, even if their girl is into them, is because I know that I can create a window of opportunity where I’ll look cooler than him to his girl. For most guys it’s not hard, you just run some verbal AMOG’ing and get them to qualify to you and that’s enough. For tougher situs you have to start throwing in some girl-coding and getting your elbows dirty. For really tough sets you have to bring in the big guns, like chatting up a set of hot girls nearby where the girl’s going to see you’re making them laugh, or chatting with the manager in front of her, etc. etc. before approaching.

        A guy like Style will look like he’s the manager of the club and the most important person in the scene when he approaches so the girls are dying to find out who he is…he’s not popping out of the shadows with gay bald head whispering “who lies more??”

        Julien from RSD approaches a girl and whispers in her ear “Tell him I’m your gay friend.” and creates a fun conspiracy, then tells the guy he just needs to borrow her for one minute, and then he isolates her and escalates.

        Gambler approaches a set with “Hey, how’ve you been?” and pretends to know the girl to disarm the guy.

        Jeffy from RSD will get threatening in the guy’s face looking to scrap and aggressively pull the girl away from him.

        To get rid of cockblock friends, Tyler literally shouts at them to get the fuck away until they leave.

        I’ve picked a girl up over my shoulder and just RUN AWAY carrying her.

        Generally in those situations the girls aren’t thinking “well if I compare the % ratio of how much wood this man could chop compared to this one it seems like the decimal point would indicate–“…she’s thinking “OMG lol hahahaha holy shit wheeeee!!! lololol”

        If you show her a picture of the manly man next to a Strauss she might logically go “oh I’d rather fuck the manly dude.” but the reality is that in the moment it comes down to game.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 3:15 pm immoralgables

        YaReally I’m on page 350 of MM Collabo. A lot of information to absorb. Do you recommend a starting point or to absorb it all? I’d rather throw darts at the board than just shit at the wall and see what’s sticks.

        I’m thinking it might be for me to go back to beginning and focus and practice TDs AMOG tactics. Then maybe progress to Sickboys Openers section and try stuff from there. I’m kind of lost with all the info and if your answer depends on where I’m at just let me know.

        -I.G.

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      • GO OUT!

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 4:53 pm immoralgables

        Nah it’s not that Anon I do go out. I’m looking for some focus when I do.

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      • Comes down to your sticking points. The nice thing about PUA is you don’t have to read it in order. You can spend a few weeks focusing on building rapport, then a few weeks focusing on mixed sets, then a few weeks focusing on opening, then a few weeks focusing on escalating quickly, etc. etc.

        So to decide the best place to start, is there any particular sticking point you have in field, or some part of your game that isn’t as smooth/efficient as you feel like it should be?

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      • on October 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm Holden Caulfield

        “the reality is that in the moment it comes down to game.” Anyone that has been out in different types of clubs, house parties, etc. knows that is exactly right. It is definitely about tight game vs. those without it.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm Hugh G. Rection

        Yeah you can’t just knock her out and take her to your rape cave. A lot of game is really understanding how women think/feel.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 12:58 am Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

        Damn, there go my weekend plans..

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    • A lot of assumptions in that diatribe. First, you assume manly men want night club girls. Most of the manly men I know (and I’m in Alaska, so that’s a lot) aren’t looking for one night pump and dump, make up corrected, club sluts. They don’t fit our lifestyle. We compete for the natural beauties who can run on our level and we don’t have to worry about fucking around when we leave for the bush for a week.

      But to think that a manly man wouldn’t do well in a club is silly. Part of being a real man is interacting with people and being a leader. It’s How to Win Friends and Influence People. I do just fine in clubs while wearing Carhart bibs and hoodie. Nightclubs are basically feed lots for confused “liberated” women and the betas who think that is what a woman is.

      Club sleaze like Strauss are validating their ego by numbers, but those broads bring nothing but superficial thrills. They are temporary. They are dope. (which is nice escapism on occasion) A real woman, a quality feminine woman (one who would never be caught in a club), completes a manly man.

      I’m an idealist obviously.

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      • And there aren’t many of us left.

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      • I 100% agree with your statements. However, there is a decreasing percentage of women who are worthy of long term relationships. You will be forced to pay a higher price for this decreasing percentage of women to attain her and keep her. This is the problem and the chink in your armor. Alaska has an additional problem of there being less women percentage wise than any other state in the United Statesthan men although there may be a higher percentage of quality women there than elsewhere. Most men I know would love to live Alaska for a year or two years. I’m not saying all men would want to live in the bush of Alaska, but you almost all would live in at least Anchorage at the very least. Many men would live in the bush. The only thing stopping most men from living in Alaska is the lack of women, but most women wouldn’t live there even though they know they could attract more men and higher quality of men percentage wise. Most women I know woudn’t live in Anchorage, the easiest and most urban setting of Alaska at 250,000 people.

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      • Most women aren’t really worth knowing or catering too in any form, and game is modifying your behavior to excite women’s interest in you.

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      • catering to

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      • True, but at least we’re in good company.

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    • P.S. I like all the “jump on the bandwagon” disdain for one of the original guys who figured out half the concepts that you all use to get pussy today. How many nights did you go out this week, shit-talkers? Because the early PUAs were hitting it up 4-7 nights a week for years chipping away at concepts and spending hours writing about them and teaching them so that you could use a filtered version of them via the Manosphere, and then shit all over the guys who dedicated a huge chunk of their life to figure them out in the first place.

      And STRAUSS is the “parasite”? lol look in a mirror.

      Put ANY of you in Strauss’ body with his personality before he got into pickup and none of you would’ve made the kind of progress in self-development and developing the PUA community that he did. The guys calling him a slimy worm wouldn’t last 20 minutes in a high-end nightclub without panicking and holding up a wall for the night.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 1:36 pm FuriousFerret

        Truth.

        Respect is earned in results and all the old school PUAs showed results, the end all be all.

        I think the hate is that these guys underneath it all they have nerdy intellectual personalities. These would be the guys that were into Rush and played D&D in high school, so there is an immediate negative reaction to them.

        But WTF, that makes them all the more impressive. They fought against all the negative odds to score with women that if they followed the beaten path would never have even talked to.

        Whenever somebody has achieved something that you want, hating is the ultimate sign of a loser. You should compete to win. Find out what they did and adjust your strategy accordingly. Healthy competition is the core of what it means to actually be a true man. When you hate you should hold up a big sign that says here stands a loser that will never win because he focuses on others instead of winning for himself.

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      • … that makes them all the more impressive…

        Impressive relative to their natural shortcomings. On an absolute scale, they overcompensated for those deficiencies and ignored the many more dimensions of accomplishment that comprise a man in full.

        As PUAs near the end of their whirly, punch-drunk carousel ride, they start to edge back toward what they missed during their monomaniacal chase of The One Most Important Thing. Hence we see the faintly pathetic attempt to expand game techniques into new-agey philosophies for life, as the veterans have now begun to in their quasi-retirement:

        “PUAs aren’t racist!” “Find the meaning that’s good for you, bro.” “Being manly is for asocial, awkward chumps who can’t get laid despite their advantages.” “This HBD thing is like what I learned picking-up drunk sluts, only academic!” “It’s all about inner game now.”

        YaReally just put up a mini-ad for Buddhism somewhere in the comments. When this is one’s highest grasp of the spiritual, you know you’re looking at near-tragic impoverishment. Trendy Buddhism, yoga, nirvana, and the power of crystals (Eat, Pray, Love!) are the DIY spiritualist’s panic attack — Maybe I should give a thought or two to the higher things. Where to begin? Hm, India seems exotic, and not stuffy like church… It is the same simplicity that enthralls women to street magic and faux profundity. If PUAs had a slightly better self-awareness, they’d see themselves succumbing to the big-picture spiritual equivalent of “The Cube” trick.

        But I’m not one to spread bad feelings, so let me conclude with a conciliatory note. These PUAs are very good at what they do, just as anyone who devotes himself to such focused thought and experimentation will be, and they most certainly have put in their time. They are to be commended for their achievement and their generosity at spreading that gospel. If they can keep their opinions from straying into territory in which they are not expert, they deserve the highest praise: nothing more, but certainly nothing less either. Enmity is stupid in this regard, the sign of intramural division caused by our instinct for competition rather than true difference.

        Matt

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      • You can always count on:

        MAYA to post an insipid, trolling comment;

        THWACK to give us the pro-Black, anti-White viewpoint;

        GREG ELIOT to promptly and effectively refute THWACK; and

        KING A to sound the “there is more to life than getting laid and picking up women” tocsin — along with some metaphysical Christianity and an occasional quote from Aquinas, Augustine, and even Napolean Hill.

        Predictability…you gotta love it!

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      • You forgot GBFM lololololzlolzlzolzlozlozlozozozzzzzzzoololoooolll

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      • Some participate. Some whine from the nose-bleed seats.

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      • I saw my name in bold and was so excited! And then I fell asleep a few words in. Maybe try again but with less words?

        ❤

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      • I do not write to you/for you. Your peculiar idiocies are hardened concrete that do not require much to understand or dispatch.

        Especially when you accidentally stumble into subjects beyond the superficial — like how PUAs tend toward Buddhism because of … because lol it’s like … because… you know … like, PUAs are, lol y’know, like they’re chill? lol

        But lol it doesn’t matter cuz lol I was like sarging all day yesterday! lol

        The routines you use on drunk club rats are just that. Routines for drunk club rats. Stop making the stupid mistake of thinking that your hypomanic slut acquisition means you can speak authoritatively among men, or to even talk among men at all.

        Matt

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      • Sometimes loathing is merely loathing.

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      • There is brilliance in all of this.

        I keep wondering if everyone here is collectively exactly the same experientially speaking in a mirror’s agenda’s reflection’s type of Way.

        Meaning too much pussy & No Pussy simultaneously. Then when kept Pussy comes around, lept we’re on a higher level – our pedestal – & unkempt we’re in Heaven found, bending at the beckoned weakened will of the Other and their steady ground.

        Blessed be the Alpha’s, as they’re quite gifted not unlike the Omega’s, though proffered is offered our Thought’s to the gods of the lesser Beta’s Who are our Fish that swim in the Martyr’s Sea.

        So to Buddha we pray? Nay, to buddha we know he sat beneath a tree.

        To Christ we swim? No, to Him we know he never found a Way.

        To G-d we call? Sometimes ’cause He’s the only It we constructed in Understanding the Game.

        To the Maize or like a mouse in one? No, ’cause we construct the maze’s the scientist’s doctor’s rat’s enjoy losing their learning way in.

        The Experiment? Our Self’s? The Alpha’s thus the Omega’s.

        The Beta’s themselves are quite the haymaker’s, aware of their day.

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      • Just what this site needed… more ishkabibble cognitive dissonance.

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      • So what would be a right thing for a manly alpha to do?
        Beat the shit out of such a guy, (and do it to chase him away, not to impress women that much) so that when he sees you again, he runs away from the place. Especially if you’re regular in that club, and have the crew that you go with.
        If the problem is that he might sue you, or something, you don’t have to beat him down, you can go to him and start to insult him, and slap him like he is a girl, and be arogant and relentless, and openly show to everyone how much you hate him, and disdain him which should keep others from defending him, thinking that you do all this things from hatred of him, and not to deliberately chase the guy away because he can get women easier.
        I personally am disgusted with that and wouldn’t be doing it, but seems to me that it’s the only way to stop him from taking the girl/s you like.

        You have something like that in the movie “step up”. The white guy Tyler dances with the girl of the local AMOG, and he’s doing it just right, she’s falling, but the local more manly alpha that can’t pull such things on the dance floor, nor establish emotional conection with a girl the way Tyler can, simply comes to him, and declares that girl is his teritory, and that the “dancer” needs to get his ass out of there. Girl protests, saying shit like:”we were just dancing”, but is being ignored, and after the show of the AMOG’s force, Tyler leaves in defeat. The girl remained to the brute.

        Though i personally think that Tyler, is otherwise a perfect combination of both(as i am triing to be), it can be seen how a more brutish guy still didn’t lost a girl to him.

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      • Aggression is only the answer if another man’s advances are obviously inappropriate and unwelcome to your woman.

        If, however, she’s responding to such, well… best find another woman. Beating up on guys week after week is going to eventually take its toll, one way or another… either by knife or gun, or the police.

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      • “So what would be a right thing for a manly alpha to do?
        Beat the shit out of such a guy, (and do it to chase him away, not to impress women that much) so that when he sees you again, he runs away from the place. Especially if you’re regular in that club, and have the crew that you go with.”

        Here’s why you won’t beat him up:

        Because 1) if he’s a good PUA, he’s socially connected in that club and wields far more social power than you. The bouncers are on his side, the manager is on his side, the bartenders and waitresses are on his side, and even the crowd, especially the girls, are on his side. 2) if you’re a generic tough dude, you’re not used to social pressure. You’re a badass in the MMA ring but if your girl is being taken off your hands, socially you’re a chump and you will cave to the judgement and peer pressure of the people around you.

        And most importantly 3) the bouncers all hate you. You and “your boys” might be regulars, but if you’re ready to throw down that fast, you are fucking annoying to all of the staff. You ruin people’s night, you ruin their night, you piss them off and legally they can’t retaliate as much as they want to, and they only let you in because they have to but they’d rather have a nice quiet night where everyone has fun. You scare the girls there, you make the guys not want to come back (and they’re the ones blowing the money on those girls that keeps the bar in business), and you probably awkwardly hit on the staff girls all night and annoy them, and then tip like shit. And the whole time you think you and your boys are badass bros that the bar wants there.

        On the flip side the PUA is bringing girls to the bar, making people laugh and have a good time and want to come back and spend more money next week and recommend the place to their friends because they had so much fun. He cheers the staff up and points out retards like your boys to the bouncers when you’re getting out of hand and ruining other people’s night. The PUA is also socially connecting people and hanging in a social circle of quality social people who also spread good vibes around. The staff love him and look forward to him showing up and they give him free drinks and VIP entry etc. because they understand the value he brings to the bar in the form of the crowd having a good time.

        I’ve had managers and staff come over and introduce themselves to my group and I and buy us drinks or give us free VIP booths, bottles, take care of our tab, etc. literally just because they saw us rallying a quiet club into party mode and they want us to come back.

        Your angry sausage-fest in a corner starting fights because they’re insecure and making the environment overall unpleasant for the people around them, are not going to win the exchange. And even if you do, way to go, you beat up a small girly-man that everyone likes…you’re gonna’ seem super cool to everyone after that lol

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      • “So what would be a right thing for a manly alpha to do?
        Beat the shit out of such a guy, (and do it to chase him away, not to impress women that much) so that when he sees you again, he runs away from the place. Especially if you’re regular in that club, and have the crew that you go with.”

        The actual manly alpha thing to do is to realize Strauss’s probably a handy guy to know. Buy the next round, joke around a bit, hey set up a lunch meeting if the stars are right.

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    • Most of those manly men who look so badass chopping trees down and fixing cars, when you put them in a nightclub environment with thumping music…

      It will take a natural disaster of epic proportions to upend the world of the men chopping down trees and fixing cars… and even then, they find a way to endure… though their women might have to make do without miniskirts and purple eye shadow with sparkles.

      All it takes to bring down a nightclub with its thumping music is a blown fuse.

      Revel in your Babylon… and enjoy it while it lasts.

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      • “It will take a natural disaster of epic proportions to upend the world of the men chopping down trees and fixing cars…”

        OR…robots.

        lol

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      • Let us know when Best Buy gets its next shipment of Replicants.

        LOOOLLLLZZZZLLLLOOOOOLLLLLOOOOOZZZZZLLLL

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      • Unmanly PUAs sleep soundly in their beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do them harm.

        When are the rough men going to realize they are getting the short end of the stick?

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      • We’re not, really… it’s not quite as bad as the most glaring examples would have us believe. There are still good women to be found, and children being born.

        And when we do get less than we deserve, well… I look at it philosophically.

        Whom He loves He chastens and rebukes. He made Moses wander long in the desert, refining that mettle on the anvil of the sun, until he was worthy to lead His people.

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      • on October 19, 2012 at 7:50 pm blackbird.young

        However, Moses had horns.

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      • ?

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      • Parasites* sleep soundly in their beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do them harm.

        When are the rough men going to realize they are getting the short end of the stick?

        *Fixed for you.

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      • I would enjoy watching YaReally on one of those lobster boats.

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      • That’s not really fair, because that occupation is probably the most dangerous job in the world…

        Although, after a night of thumping music and having his way with every and any “hot” girl in the club, he probably smells like he just got off of one of those lobster boats.

        😀

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      • ’cause I’d be shirtless. Perv.

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    • So in short, they excel at manipulating the circumstances of a womens’ world and are hence leaders of women. Everything you describe is what socially successful females do. Real men don’t learn these arts because they don’t value them.

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    • A metrosexual can socially lead and dominate manly men.

      Only in circumstances such as we have in our society now, which has been created for the sake of women They are artificial and depend on advanced technology created by those most ostracized from it rewards. Do you really think the manly men who tolerate you trust you?

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      • Only in circumstances such as we have in our society now…

        You give them too much credit. What the metrosexual provides is not leadership. The best they can do is step into the estrogen smog and deliver vague guidance. Men are better at everything, including the feminine specialties. So it is no surprise for a half-faggot culture to find deliverance in the “man” who usurps female prerogatives, thereby outshining his sisters. But this comparative advantage does not cross the threshold of leadership.

        To call their meandering “leadership” in any sense undermines the proper sense of the word. Even metrosexuals and the cuntliest of feminists will defer to the nearest man in emergency, as the near fetishization of firemen and policemen attested on September 11, 2001, when we were collectively forced to dispense with all superficial bullshit (which precipitated, immediately and universally, the suspending of unisex terms like “fire fighters” and “police officers,” if you hadn’t noticed).

        No, women and urbanized fruitcakes haven’t taken over leadership positions, and no, it is not “The End of Men.” They are place holders, stewards pro tempore while the king is abroad. To imagine anyone sporting a physical or mental pussy could ever provide leadership as classically understood is to contemplate bunnies barking. As you note, we have defined culture down, and we subsequently found ourselves defining “leadership” down to make way for equalizing myths of “emotional intelligence” and “soft power” and other such pretty bullshit.

        Matt

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      • As usual, spot on.

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      • To imagine anyone sporting a physical or mental pussy as ever being able to provide leadership as classically understood is to contemplate bunnies barking.

        This statement is hella funny. And true.

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      • Wait, let me translate your post:

        “waahhh wahhh reality isn’t the way I want it to be in my head and I can’t adjust to the world around me and succeed so I’m going to cry about it because I wasn’t capable of adapting to a new environment, which tells everyone that I’m probably pretty socially awkward in real life”

        lol

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      • You can take the omega away from his resentment, but you can’t take the resentment out of the omega.

        This idea that “reality” is defined by some former-nerd’s newfound metrosexuality is preposterous on its face, but to acknowledge such would be to risk the old nerdliness from creeping back in. The little drama of the insecurities is fooling no one. Somebody’s Superman underoos are showing.

        Not acting the faggy gadfly means social awkwardness? Putting the words “I’m probably pretty socially awkward in real life” into someone else’s mouth is an accidental tell of the alpha poseur’s fear of discovery.

        Matt

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      • It’s almost amusing when the cake-eatin’ lounge lizards try to match wits with the meat-eatin’ masters of many disciplines.

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      • The King allowed for his Jesters.

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    • That’s not a manly man you’re talking about, those are ones that aren’t that different from the metrosexual..they’re just less socialized and use less cologne.

      Do you think Connery’s Bond would be out of his element in a place like that?

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  22. Speaking of unmanly men — by which I mean closet-homo Obama — this is the best take yet on President Down Low.

    http://hillbuzz.org/think-squad-chicago-blacks-say-democrats-are-clueless-about-how-mad-theyve-made-black-folk-in-last-year-87735

    Also introduces me to two new terms with which I was not familiar.

    Cake Boy — a homo
    The Slims — the AIDS

    Seems the inside crowd of Chicago blacks have long called our boy Bathhouse Barry, and they mock him as a Cake Boy that’s got The Slims (hence, his haggard appearance of late).

    Speakin’ truth to power!

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  23. on October 19, 2012 at 1:19 pm Animal Mother

    How bad it must suck to be named Hugo.

    I’d change that shit to something cool like Hugorilius

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  24. […] Heartiste — Manly Men Confused Why Unmanly Men Get Girls This entry was posted in blogosphere, political economy. Bookmark the permalink. ← Where I’ve been […]

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  25. on October 19, 2012 at 1:26 pm Animal Mother

    Question, did anyone else notice during the Mangina debate tuesday night, the two feminists sitting behind each candidate? It’s almost like they were placed there on purpose because they were each on camera often while the candidates were talking.

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  26. On the one hand, I could see a guy like Strauss potentially trying to weasel a girl away from a guy. On the other hand, he’s single-handedly done more for introducing game and that little red pill we all covet so much to more men than probably anyone else on the planet- including any “manly man”.

    That can’t be denied, gotta give him props for that.

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  27. Manly men are a little too logical and emotionally distant…if you can have fun with the good parts of her craziness that makes life more enteratining.

    Don’t be a robotic statue and don’t make everything to be an attack on your ego.

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  28. Gentlemen: It’s not “Survival of the Strongest”, it’s “Survival of the Fittest”.

    There are a lot of variations of Game out there, but if your particular variation consists of sitting stoically in your garage being proudly manly, the testosterone oozing from every masculine pore and waiting for women to stumble upon you, swoon, and fall to the floor with their bare ass in the air, begging for your seed . . . well, you’re as delusional as those “Twu Wuv” women who think reading romance novels, collecting cats and eating a high-carb diet are going to bring a young handsome billionaire to their door.

    That’s the point: Game is a mating strategy, one that exists in a context. Our basic ideas about masculinity were formed during the Paleolithic, when brawny types ruled the earth and strength ruled the day. Then the Ag Age came along and added intelligence and social awareness and wealth to the pool of attraction.

    Now in the post-industrial age, we have new factors that are influencing female mating behavior — but that is built on the residue of all of those old attraction factors. Proper Single Game involves being aware enough of the current social and cultural cues to be attractive to a woman in-context. That doesn’t mean you have to be a pussy, just be aware that if you don’t fucking talk to women or be willing to share their world with a modicum of understanding,(Commandment IX: Connect With Her Emotions) then you are playing with a big handicap. Hope them abs are rock hard and you have an 11″ dick.

    While that sucks, from a masculine traditionalist point of view, it also points to the efficacy of Game as a mating strategy. The Manosphere is the agent by which a revalorization of masculinity can take place, and as Game is a big part of that, it and its substrategies are going to fall within the new umbrella of “what guys do that makes them guys”. It’s not the way I would go, personally, but you go with the Game you have, and if metro leader-of-women or peacocking bad boys are doing the trick, then that’s going to be in there along with handlebar mustaches, NASCAR, and gun shows.

    No one says you have to be an unmanly snark machine to get laid — but that doesn’t mean you cannot study and incorporate Game elements that fit your personal style from those who go to such extremes. Learning how to lead a woman by her emotions is a delicate and sophisticated skill, one that takes practice but is ultimately rewarding. Learn from the people who do it best and most like your style, but don’t be quick to dismiss these dudes. If nothing else, they help reveal the frailties of female defense against good Game.

    Besides, kicking one of these guys’ asses in a bar parking lot is usually considered pretty Alpha. And if he fights back just a little, he gets enough Alpha credit to bang some hamster-crushing beta chicks afterwards. Win-win.

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  29. Looking for real guys to star in an upcoming reality series.

    The catch? He needs to be UN-manly. This person should lack some specific skill or trait you think men should have – and desperately need our help! The more urgent the better.

    WHAT KIND OF GUYS ARE WE LOOKING FOR?
    Any guy you’d consider UN-manly—think George Costanza, Frasier Crane, or Raymond…without the whole ‘everybody loving him’ part. This will be like the Outward Bound for the guy who lacks some specific skill or trait you think men should have.

    We’ll give that minivan-driving soccer dad the ride of his life; your trust fund college roommate the first real day of work in his life; and that old friend doing time in a suburban office park some freedom.

    It’s one thing to be un-manly – it’s another to need our help. Tell us what you or your friend has to gain by being sent on this incredible adventure. Apply via email at [email protected].

    Please include a recent photo of yourself and tell us why you think you or your friend needs Man Camp.

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  30. I’m glad to see Ludovici getting more recognition. Everyone should be reading his books, starting with this one: http://anthonymludovici.com/ew_int.htm

    He even knew about the female hamster: http://anthonymludovici.com/wv_03.htm

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  31. The main reason? Unmanly men are hypergamous.

    If it’s masculine to be monogamous and feminine to be hypergamous, then it’s perfectly reasonable to think feminine men are also likely hypergamous.

    The feminine man walks into a room looking for the hottest girl he can find and when he finds her, he approaches her, but he frets over every move like one of those girls on hetexted.com.

    The masculine man picks from the women that approach him, but the selection isn’t always great. That’s why you’ll often see an alpha male with a somewhat dowdy partner.

    The unmanly man gets what rightfully belongs to the manly man because he works hard to get it.

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    • It’s not masculine to be monogamous, bro. In fact, it’s the opposite.

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      • Only in Babylon.

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      • Where do you think we are ?

        Have you tried clicking your heels together and repeating ” There’s no place like home? “

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      • There’s a New World coming… I’m interested in the birth of new future, not in resurrecting the dead past.

        I know full-well where we are in the present… and the cost of fighting an underground war for an absentee landlord, as C. S. Lewis put it.

        Part of that cost is putting up with snark from those whose mental and spiritual condition go no deeper than “when in Rome”.

        As I said… enjoy it while it lasts.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 7:44 am Mr. Pointyface

        People thought the year 1000 would be the end. Paranoids of all uniforms take sadistic, sanctimonious delight in intimidating others with the “inevitable doom” they foresee. It’s doom all right. We all croak.

        Sooner or later, they’re right, a charmer like HItler or Mao comes along and a bunch of people get put through hell. But the majority of people in the modern world, it’s going to be business, inadequate vacation, and death as usual.

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      • But the majority of people in the modern world, it’s going to be business, inadequate vacation, and death as usual.

        Your life appears inane and enervating.

        Little wonder you follow the more vibrant people around in Cyberia and lamely attempt to put an oar in.

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      • “… you follow the more vibrant people around in Cyberia and lamely attempt to put an oar in.”

        Spot on.

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  32. Dude, nobody is criticizing the guy’s research or methodology, but let’s face it, he researched and wrote the book on how to be club sleaze. Game has evolved much further since he did his work and he is still trolling clubs. We thank him for the techniques, but dudes are now exploring whole new concepts of masculinity and not just worried about notch counts.

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  33. The metrosexual man as a leader of women. Brilliant. Aphoristically genius.

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  34. I have a lot to say on this topic cause I’m middle-ground (some manly features but don’t know how to change a tire) and I hang out with both super-metros and big tough men because I have a lot of social circles.

    Reality is, a lot of the rough n tumble guys have terrible social skills. They’re always paranoid about being disrespected and look miserable in a club enviro and are mean to the metro guys in front of girls (a cool guy can get along with anyone, these guys end up looking insecure and bitter), they see every other guy in the bar as a physical threat or pussy competition, they hang out around other men doing manly shit so a girl in a miniskirt and push-up bra fries their circuits and they stutter, and just in general they’re not comfortable in a club enviro and that comes across clearly like a neon sign.

    They also tend to be homophobic and thus very uncomfortable with sex and sexuality in general. Russell Brand says when he runs into one of these manly types he actually ramps up his flamboyant gayness instead of toning it down, because it makes the guys really uncomfortable and they don’t know how to deal with it and act normal.

    Now I also know some manly types who are solid players. And there are times where a girl has decided “this is my type of guy” and if the guy has game he’s pretty safe, even if a metro guy tries she can force herself to stick with the manly guy.

    But the reverse is also true, depending on your city and the environment, some girls like the metro guys. A construction worker in his work boots and a plaid shirt and $8 haircut, in a high-end nightclub, just looks socially inept. The slick Ryan Gosling from that recent movie looks way higher value there.

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  35. With modern birth control, abortion, and paternity tests, I’d venture a guess that the manly man does more conceiving than the sneaky fucker, even if the latter does more banging.

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  36. “This is how the manly men are outgunned. The manly man’s refusal, born of pride or disgust, to sink into the insufferable torments of the child-like, capricious, feckless world of women and frolic in it as if it were his own world leaves him exposed atop his hill, strong and dignified and self-righteous, to the cunning shamelessness of the unmanly man absconding with the women languishing under his paternal gaze.”

    Not true at all, manly alpha naturals will out game and out compete any limp wristed PUA dandies in both hot women and the game of life. My friend’s brother is a SEAL and dated a “famous” Russian tennis pro model… let’s see Mystery pull a A-list celeb.

    Of course there are plenty of stupid loser hot women that bang these loser lesser alphas in venues like dive bars and such, but the most alpha females; world super models or celebrities can and will end up securing commitment from super alpha males like athletes, royalty, politicians, military leaders and CEOs.

    I would rather be Donald Trump or Silvio than Mystery any day of the week.

    Learned game cannot compete with the authentic whole package masculinity of naturals. It’s like learning a foreign language, the native speakers will know impostors a mile away.

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    • Ok, the problem with that is WTF is the 80 percent that are not natural alpha supposed to do?

      Bend over for you?

      Plus, some talent plus hard work trumps pure talent any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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    • on October 19, 2012 at 3:22 pm immoralgables

      You’re wrong King A. Just. Plain. Wrong.

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      • Wasn’t me, sparky. Stop living in a fog. Attention to detail is a key element of leadership.

        Here is an alternative list of “poon commandments” in the event that you want to maintain your man card while you’re slangin game. Hint: manscara, playing gay, and adopting the affect of a “dandy” are not on the list. No woman is worth castrating yourself over. Especially since they go for metrosexuals only in the measure of their insecurities or when no men are available.

        Matt

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    • Fuck models and celebrities. Most of them have manjaws and no curves at all.
      Tennis star? lmao. That doesn’t mean shit.

      Alpha females are the anonymous turbo-hotties at the club or in the street.

      Models and celebrities are for semi-gays libfags who love strong independent women.

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      • Funny all three of you are guilty of wishful thinking and projecting delusional PC cliche BS like women. Must have been raised by single mothers in broken households.

        There is nothing wrong with self-improvement via game and practice. I’m pointing out that patriarchal or “conservative” masculine natural alphas can and usually pull better woman than most artificial PUA alphas. The delusional traditionalists are probably just Betas with beat BBW gfs.

        Don’t kid yourself. Most alpha women are models and celebrities since they get exposure and maximum compensation for their beauty. It also provides a venue and positive press to attract the natural winner alphas.

        Her first name is Anna and the last name starts with a K. She is past her prime now but there’s no argument that she is was a solid Russian 9 or 10.

        Envy is so Beta.

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  37. Once you acknowledge that female sexual desire is amoral and dangerous it changes your worldview. Unfortunately the only way to truly understand this is to bang some sluts and see it up close. It can be explained accurately, but not truly understood until it is experienced.

    It is a very dangerous time. There is a reason the serpent worked through Eve instead of Adam.

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  38. on October 19, 2012 at 2:36 pm jg from texas

    On the day of the collapse, I plan on making it rain in the best strip club in the citywith boxes of freeze-dried food.

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  39. I really read and don’t like The Spearhead much, but this article basically shows what life is like for guys like my Dad (manly Hank Hill types). A long time ago they got wives and have families. Today life is move like this:

    The Socialization of the Costs of Sex

    by W.F. PRICE on OCTOBER 19, 2012

    One of the beefs the traditional left has had with US economic policy – one I happen to have as well – is the socialization of business costs (or losses) while profit remains private. Because I did some manual labor as a teen and young man, I remember feeling pretty angry about the fact that immigrant farm workers had their health care and housing subsidized by the state while I had no such benefit. This was extended to a ridiculous degree in subsequent years, with illegals getting all of the benefits of residence and state services while their employers continued to pay them low wages. As I saw it, there was a partnership between the state and private interests that served to drive wages down for natives. Unfortunately, the typical white leftist at the time was a couple generations removed from blue collar work, and tended to have a sort of class antagonism toward working-class whites (e.g. you must be a “loser” if you work with your hands), framing everything in terms of multicultural universalism, by which they justified screwing less advantaged Americans in favor of hiring cheaper foreigners.

    There are plenty of other examples, and many of us are paying dearly for this in our current recession, which was created essentially by socializing business costs and thereby creating an enormously inflated bubble. It’s infuriating when you think about it, and makes me pretty pessimistic about both candidates, who both, as far as I can tell, are in league with the thieves and crooks who caused all this trouble.

    However, it seems that this is a problem that goes beyond the formal business world, and has pervaded society in general to the extent that many – perhaps most – people think the government (i.e. taxpayers) should bear the costs of their life choices.

    The example most in the news today is the demands for subsidized abortion and birth control that have become a feature of the presidential campaign. You’d think that our country’s women’s top priority is getting the government to subsidize their sexual choices, whatever they may be.

    Following what I was getting at yesterday, sex has always incurred some expense. Like it or not, men pay for sex (or its results) in one way or another. Traditionally, you’d pay by getting married and taking the woman on as your responsibility, or you’d pay a fee for a one-off (prostitution). If you took it without paying for it, as in adultery, rape or fornication, it was a crime, or something like that. If we were honest with ourselves, we’d have to admit that it still is a quasi crime; as the old system has been replaced with something significantly more confusing, sex crime laws have become far broader in scope and can be applied to any number of situations (such as prostitution) that used to be considered beyond the purview of the law.

    Additionally, despite false promises of free sex from the 60s and 70s, when feminists used to get support from men by promising we’d all be getting laid for free when we had “equality,” it turned out that sex still had a lot of associated costs. Pregnancy, of course, is one of the biggest. At first, we socialized that, but then welfare reform threw the costs entirely onto fathers (not mothers, mind you). Combined with welfare reform, we had VAWA, which significantly increased the costs of marriage and cohabitation by legally handicapping men in relationships with women. So great strides have been made in restoring a heavy cost to sex, but this hasn’t been enough, because women have grown accustomed to sexual license with whomsoever they please, and the men they generally like either a) don’t have the money, or b) are desirable enough to not have to pay.

    Although the latter is a bit counterintuitive (wouldn’t women desire men who pay for them?), it’s a function of female sexual psychology. Women generally use sex to ensnare the man they want (ant they typically have high expectations), and then they begin to draw resources from him. It works in simple societies where people hold each other to account, but in more cosmopolitan settings it breaks down for a couple reasons. First, there are more than enough women to go around, so it’s easy to drop one and pick up another, and secondly there are other means for women to gain resources, such as jobs and welfare, and as long as those resources exist men who have no trouble procuring sex see no reason to provide for women, even if they have the means. And who can blame them? Although it’s a social catastrophe, it’s a perfectly reasonable attitude from a personal perspective, because, after all, the individual man didn’t create this mess in the first place.

    Here’s a scenario:

    A handsome young investment banker making six figures can go out to a bar and take his pick. Let’s call him Mark. Mark picks up a young woman named Amanda, she goes home with him, they have sex, and he enters her number into his phone, leaving her only a promise to call again. Perhaps he intends to do so, and perhaps not. Whatever the case, he feels no guilt or responsibility, because the woman, who happens to be in law school, also has a job at a nonprofit, and makes more hourly than the average young man in their city, so he doesn’t need to provide her with anything. Additionally, if there’s an “accident” (but in all likelihood there won’t be, because Mark is careful about these things) there’s a Planned Parenthood down the street. Not only does it provide her with birth control, but it will treat STDs and abort unwanted children resulting from her nightly excursions.

    Sounds fine, so what’s the problem?

    The problem is that this young woman, despite being a student and having a job, is essentially on the dole. Her nonprofit is funded in large part by state and federal grants, as is her tuition. Her sexual care at Planned Parenthood is also funded largely by taxpayers. Her life, including her sex life, is paid for by the average working Joe, but she isn’t sleeping with Joe — oh no: she’s sleeping with Mark, a guy who easily could afford to feed, clothe and insure her, but who doesn’t have to because of Joe. Although it isn’t really his fault, Mark is a freeloader.

    Joe, for his part, makes do with monthly trysts with a mid-level prostitute, which he can barely afford after taxes and child support. Joe, who is an HVAC repairman, is paying for all the Amandas in his state, his ex-wife Lisa, and his hooker, who is named Elena.

    Interestingly enough, Joe and Amanda have met. Joe was called in to fix the AC in her nonprofit’s office on a sweltering summer day. Because the AC was broken and the atmosphere was stifling, Amanda had unbuttoned the top part of her blouse, and poor Joe couldn’t help but look at her breasts. Amanda was furious, and called his supervisor, who apologized profusely, and when Joe got back from the job he caught hell. Fortunately, he wasn’t fired, but it sure was humiliating. Not as bad as having to deal with his ex-wife’s lawyer, but close…

    I suppose we could say “life’s unfair,” and that would be entirely true. But should we make it that unfair? Should we set things up so that Joe has to support Amanda as much as Mark?

    According to our nation’s single women, the answer is a resounding “YES!” Married women, however, have a significantly different take on it, for obvious reasons.

    I’m not sure single women are consciously aware of how selfish they are being. I think they fully intend to find some man to support them, and think the only way they can do that is to have unfettered sex with all the Marks of the world they can get their hands on in the hopes that one of them will some day give in and marry her. The problem is that it’s a trend that reinforces itself; the more Amandas we have giving it away for free the less likely any given Mark will be to actually support any of them. The competition will escalate, desirable men will become even more reluctant to give women any financial support, and the screeching for more entitlements for single women will grow louder and louder.

    It is exactly this trend that has led to the bizarre, unprecedented fixation on women’s sexual entitlements in our current election cycle. When you socialize the costs of a private activity – and sex is about as private as it gets – you create an unnatural imbalance that rewards the few at the expense of the many. You also run the risk of inflating costs to unsustainable levels, and I think that’s something young women ought to think hard about. But they won’t.

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    • This is it, precisely this. Socialization of the costs of sex. More exactly, inflation of costs and declining returns.

      Shakedown of society by white women, I call it. Used to be Jews mulcting Germans, Swiss and Americans with the holocaust myth, or Jews shaming whites as a whole with a generalized dogma of slavery-guilt; but the baton to beat white men into submission has passed fully to white women who clamor to extract maximum wealth with the myths of oppression and equality.

      With these greedy shrikes as “our” women, who needs enemies?

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    • Good essay. But part of the scenario holds true without feminism as well because the Marks of the world, including myself, know that betas will take and provide for the woman after we dump her. The difference is that, with feminism, the woman rides the carousel longer and way past her sell date and Joe doesn’t get her when she’s 22 but when she’s 42. While she’s 18-42 she will claim sexual harassment if Joe looks down her shirt from a ladder.

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    • The white women are so bad, they, as a group, threaten to vote back in that black incompetent for President, despite his miserable record, at great cost to the overall national well-being, unless the white guy running for President promises to give them everything they demand.

      Of course, it is the white guys, and Asian guys, who will be paying the bill for everything they demand.

      My allegiance to our current system is, shall we say, frayed.

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      • W.F. Price writes good articles for the most part. He has a lot of good insights into the current cultural and legal war women are waging on men these days.

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  40. This also neatly explains why fag hags love their gay best friends so much

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  41. rooshvforum link:

    “This is the perfect storm. It doesn’t merely touch on every facet of the manosphere’s HBD/WN/Racialist insecurity. It punches them all squarely in the jaw. I can already imagine the astronomical amounts of male racialist hamster rationalization (aka butthurt) that will follow whenever Heartiste gets a hold of the story and the photos. Given the admission by some HBD’ers of their feeling “physically ill” upon the thought of interracial sex, I may even predict a heart attack or two upon discovery of this story. ”

    These Rooshers are quite boring. They love sucking up to Papa Wog by calling us ‘insecure’, etc., exactly like women and blacks come here to do. In sum, reminiscent of cuckold porn — the token black and errant white woman played against other white men in a spirit of malicious glee that makes one cringe to witness.

    Maladaptive altruistic punishment at its sleaziest.

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    • It is not the aesthetic preference for women with a similar skin tone to yourself that makes you appear to be insecure. It is your compulsion to insult others who have done nothing wrong to you, the better part of whom are not even feminist.

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      • I love how the shambling mound of neuroses calls other people insecure. The irony is too much.

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      • …and I suppose you are the first human ever born who has no insecurities at all.

        People with no identity have this horrible habit of operating on some sort of presumption of perfection.

        You are not perfect, and yet you sit in judgement of others. I reserve the right to do the same…to make observations about other people’s behavior.

        The difference between us, Turbo, is that I own my stuff. You are still hiding.

        What are you hiding?

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    • uh:

      Where can one find more of your writing?

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  42. A few of the biggest players I’ve known have been borderline gender-identity cases. Preening, constant outfit changes, manipulating, cattiness, approval seeking, personality shifting, attention whoring, parasitism, trendy, fickle tastes, posh diets, feminine facial features, the works. But they play girls with abandon and chicks eat it up.

    On a more mild scale, hipsters with a dash of beta/female usually have girlfriends, and their female sides are what helps them score over the more stoic manly men. Of course, they also tend to develop oneitis, and that coupled with their weakness and lack of maleness ends up sabotaging the relationship. But, then they end up with another girl. In my more hipster-ish days of my early 20s I never lacked for female attention.

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  43. on October 19, 2012 at 4:06 pm Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

    YES!!! HEARTISTSESS!!

    I have oft stated thusly–today’s leading fiat masters invert alpha’s and betas.

    Note how the Weekly Standard repreats secreteive taper of buttcocker Tucker Max’s lies about his height and succeteh, while the Weekly Standard ignores the men fighting and dying in foreign wars on foreign shores.

    They honor Tucker Max wheymes with Goldman sax for jumping on a girl’s butthole and buyttcocking her while sercteily taping it, and they ignore the herooric marines jumping on grenades to save their firendss.

    True alphas–rugged, responible, manly, honorable men are cast as targets for women and the fed and the divorce industry to tax, traduce, and belittle.

    while the buttcockers, secrteive tapers of butthext, slimy little men, makeup-waering gamerz, are cast by th fiat masters as the alphas of all alphas, buttcocking the women and taping it secretly–soeting that Moses, nor Homer, nor Virgil, nor Jesus, nor Socrates ever saw as “Manly.”

    And so the GBFM rides with theGReat Books for Ment, instead of the fanboy/feministbuttcocking.scretive tapers of buttcocking/peackoning fiatocracy fiatcoracy fiatocracy zlzozozlzoozzoz.

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    • Fuckin gbfm keeps saying the same thing over and over. Cut and paste,cut and past ect..

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      • A good tale bears retelling.

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      • on October 20, 2012 at 11:29 am Great Books For Men GreatBooksForMen GBFM (TM) GB4M (TM) GR8BOOKS4MEN (TM) lzozozozozlzo (TM)

        great menz
        are marked
        by the consistency
        of
        their character

        lesser men
        say many different things
        always shiftinng
        with the prevailing wind
        like a politician
        or a girly girl
        following the latest fashions
        instead of the etrnal verities
        of thegreat books
        and classicsz
        zlzozoozozzo

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      • That’s better!

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  44. An anecdote from Robert Green’s 48 Laws of Power. A woman met William Gladstone and Benjamin Disraeli (Victorian-era politicos). Afterward, she said, “Gladstone made me think he was the smartest man in England. Disraeli made me think I was the smartest woman in England.” We can guess which of them despoiled her vaj.

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  45. on October 19, 2012 at 5:29 pm gunslingergregi

    it was funny going to dc though man because i was in hilton and was a huge party with people in suits and got to have been like 2 black people went to the ustreet area and place awash with white people couple blacks in the club. Interesting in the place where the diversity laws and equal opportunity laws made they are moving all the blacks out to smaller town white america and creating their own white world.
    So i can kind of understand how people wouldn’t realize how the other 90 percent of america looks he he he

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  46. The most manly men get fucked over in the mating game because of testosterone. High testosterone reduces verbal ability and empathy. So, someone who has received a very large dose of test in the womb, and therefore has a very masculine brain is fucked. You notice these types of guys dont talk much and have a hard time emotionally bonding with people. They have no problem beating up other guys and being good at sports, but being exciting, building comfort, and running vulnerability game does not come naturally to them.

    These guys were the winners before us humans evolved to become more social and learned to speak. Their brains are wired to be action oriented and not hold a conversation. I think testosterone has been falling for a while because women started mating with men who have moderately high testosterone, but not excess testosterone that results in a man that is too manly to live in society.

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  47. YaReally covered this in more depth, but while he is definitely effeminate in a lot of ways, he’s also very accomplished, knowledgeable on a wide range of topics, and very comfortable, not just with his sexuality, but with his feminine qualities. He doesn’t make excuses for them.

    From Wikipedia he’s had multiple New York Times best seller’s and was:

    “a contributing editor at Rolling Stone where he wrote cover stories on Kurt Cobain, Madonna, Tom Cruise, Orlando Bloom, the Wu-Tang Clan, Gwen Stefani, Stephen Colbert, and Marilyn Manson”

    People even mentioning his nasal vocal tone as a knock against him are misguided. He isn’t able to completely change his voice, but he’s managed to significantly change many other aspects to his great success, not just with women, but financially.

    Saying that there’s only way to be a man is like someone saying that there’s only one good school of pickup philosophy. I wouldn’t say Neil is unmanly, but rather that he’s diverse.

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    • Saying that there’s only [one] way to be a man is like someone saying that there’s only one good school of pickup philosophy. I wouldn’t say Neil is unmanly, but rather that he’s diverse.

      Translation: “I suck one cock and everybody wants to call me gay. WTF?”

      Defining manliness down to fit Strauss’s fey ectomorph-shrimp presence is the wrong way to go about defending the man. That is how the soft left makes a muddle of their thinking: rather than taking an honest look at the subject example (Strauss), they redefine concepts (manliness) around that example’s traits as a way to avoid conflict, because conflict makes us feel bad. Everything becomes relative, and definition becomes meaningless. Essentially it is cowardice in the face of speaking truth. Re-read the banner picture. Our mission here is to make pretty lies perish.

      If you want to defend Strauss, point to his manly accomplishments despite his handicaps. Don’t tell us the emperor has no clothes and try to convince us that handicaps don’t exist. Especially because Strauss’s handicaps were acquired and are not insurmountable. They are the byproducts of marinating in leftist queer culture for his adult life.

      A slight man can convey manliness. It’s not easy, it’s a sucky handicap I’m sure, but it’s possible. Ask Joseph “Steel” if you have any doubt. Did you even know Stalin was a wee tiny Strauss-sized half pint? And one of his successors, Dmitri Medvedev, is even smaller than Josef’s 5’5″, at a dminutiv 5’3″. The author of our Constitution and fourth president, James Madison, was 5’4″. Live large and you will be regarded as large.

      Women’s attraction to feminine men is essentially transsexual. “S/he’s just like my BFF, but with a dick!” Therefore: 1) It is a same-sex attraction that will be overwhelmed and AMOG’ed by a man. 2) Debasing your sex for a mess of pussage is fundamentally disordered and leads to pathological habits which you will cease the ability to detect as you get older.

      Matt

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      • Think Alan Ladd on Easter Island.

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      • Point is that, if we look at the “ape world”, there are two kinds of successful copulators: the silverback and the sneaky.

        I give all props to Neil Strauss for becoming the best “sneaky” in modern times. Think on it, learn, and adopt elements as necessary. That is all.

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    • “a contributing editor at Rolling Stone where he wrote cover stories on Kurt Cobain, Madonna, Tom Cruise, Orlando Bloom, the Wu-Tang Clan, Gwen Stefani, Stephen Colbert, and Marilyn Manson”

      LOLz! A veritable who’s who of cultural decline!

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  48. Hence all that bullshit about furry hats and eyeshadow Mystery does.

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  49. This post makes me think of Ruby Rod in “Fifth Element”. Although granted Bruce Willis ended up with the Romanian/alien chick.

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  50. Depictions of Adonis, supposedly the best looking man in ancient greece

    Vs depictions off Hercules strongest man in ancient greece

    FACT : women have always prefered feminine men dont blame pop culture

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  51. A lot of this is cultural, too. In this area, a guy wearing eyeshadow and furry hats would find himself limited to 1 or 2 non-gay bars or night clubs. In all the others, he’s likely to get stabbed, beaten or simply refused entry by the bouncers enforcing the ‘dress code’……He’d likely end up just hanging around campus hitting on art majors. Also, ‘manly’ can mean different things. In much of today’s America, ‘manly’ seems to translate into ‘hugely overweight ex-athlete who drinks, eats, farts and swears a lot’.

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  52. I think the problem in this discussion is a combination of relative deprivation and perspective. More masculine men tend to have more to lose from contact with bad women, so their standards are going to be different whether or not they’re conscious of them all. Less masculine men generally have less to lose. I noted that King A described some women as “loser hot women”. These probably do not exist in a less masculine man’s universe. In his mind, hot women are all winners, especially if he isn’t going to invest anything in them and will never need to.

    Both kinds of alpha have lots of options. They’re just going to take different options, and the more masculine may be viewed as having or taking fewer of them. If they’re both with a different girl every night of the week, then one having a line of 9 isn’t going to bother the other having a line of only 7 because neither of them gets more than 7 nights in a week.

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  53. This guy has Game:

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  54. on October 20, 2012 at 4:03 am Trebuchet Warrior

    I hate nothing more than watching a alpha-feminine guy get the girl with his gay voice and exaggerated stories. They are usually thin, not muscular thin, more like Keira Knightley like. They have Leslie Mann’s voice usually. They never look at a man’s man in the eye. But they hold contact with women. They are in short, the anti-thesis of a military man with a shard of grenade in his skull, who cannot talk to the pretty girl.
    So it is quite possible that there are alpha-effeminate and beta-masculine.

    Having said that I’d rather be celibate and masculine rather than pussy flooded and effete. My priorities may be wrong, but its ok.

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    • You don’t have to change your priorities, but like any other performer, you have to play to your desired audience. If your desired audience is sturdy girls who enjoy camping and four wheeling, then you’re doing great. If you would prefer to spend your time with the hot chicks, that means you’re going to have to learn to relate to girls who cry when they break a nail, pay attention to celebrities, and feel bad about themselves for the half a pound they gain the week before their period.

      You are going to have to learn to behave as if being in the company of a beautiful (read feminine and small) woman is normal, and not that big of a deal. You’ll need to turn off the outer evidence of those natural reactions like nervousness and blushing, that happen when someone’s vulnerability and softness is turning you on. You’ll have to learn to avoid talking to her about things people who don’t play videogames, watch a lot of good comedy, or spend a considerable amount of time outdoors, don’t care about.

      You will have to learn to turn the body language from aggressive to protective just enough to let her under your umbrella so to speak.

      I’ve helped a few of my male friends out with this. It is kind of awkward at first, but I’ve helped guys go from hot chicks being a bit “creeped out” by them to hanging onto them like their they needed their breasts to be rubbing against them for some unexplained reason.

      It is do-able without sacrificing one bit of your masculinity.

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      • Nicole wrote:

        You don’t have to change your priorities, but like any other performer, you have to play to your desired audience. If your desired audience is sturdy girls who enjoy camping and four wheeling, then you’re doing great. If you would prefer to spend your time with the hot chicks, that means you’re going to have to learn to relate to girls who cry when they break a nail, pay attention to celebrities, and feel bad about themselves for the half a pound they gain the week before their period.

        Utterly, demonstrably wrong. Not to mention that it turns the wisdom of this site on its head.

        We are attracted to our opposite and complementary. When you act like a man, manly women aren’t attracted to you in that way, just as when you act effeminately, feminine women aren’t attracted to you.

        People with traits in common seek friendship alongside each other, or philos. People with complementary traits long for completion in each other, or eros. Read Aristotle’s Nicomachean Ethics, Books VIII and IX for the classical primer.

        There was a recent discussion among the female stalwarts of this site about heels vs. flats and pants vs. skirts. It was fascinating to witness in the way I imagine this forum’s back-and-forth is fascinating to women. At no point did I imagine myself participating in such feminine esoterica because I simply have nothing in common with the opposite sex’s war-gaming, beyond a thumbs-up or thumbs-down after her whole package is put together. But to see women at work — whether it’s cleaning, or gossiping, or discussing how to prettify this ugly world — is very attractive: they are preparing a lock for which I know I have the key. I’m not going to jump in and suggest whether an autumn palette goes best her complexion.

        The most you can say for men using sexually ambiguous game is that it is useful to slip in under a fag hag’s gaydar, and then ambush them. If you have no other recourse to masculinity, this may be your best option. And don’t get me wrong, this is a very real phenomenon and a very practical strategy: women like all the natural skills/insight of a man applied to her pet subjects of nail breakage, celebrity, and menstruation. But don’t mistake this for the complementarity of eros, the pursuit of which comprises the true sexual drive.

        We don’t want to “spend [our] time with the hot chicks” so much as we want to spend our time inside the hot chicks. If she wants to wrestle me like my little brother while we’re watching football, that’s not really a plus. Likewise, the beta orbiter thinks he’s slowly creeping into her panties by nodding sympathetically along with her every frivolous notion, when in truth he is setting himself up for an awkward fall and the inevitable, “You’re my best guyfriend,” or “But I love you like a brother!”

        Matt

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      • I think we’re talking about different things here. You’re talking about a guy going “full retard”. I’m talking about being able to tolerate feminine company without one’s head exploding from boredom.

        When more butch guys are bored, you tend to try to fill the silence with stuff women don’t want to hear, that removes the mystery. The more a dude geeks out about, I don’t care what it is, even guns, the less interested a woman becomes.

        There is a line…a balance.

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  55. Wait.

    Excuse me. I don’t get this at all.

    I read The Game. Strauss doesn’t pull any punches at all about what he was before he encountered game, a nerdy, balding, New York intellectual writer.

    He immersed himself in both the study and practice, spending time with both the best teachers and in approaches. I think the motherfucker made his bones and deserves what he gets from both the community and from women.

    I would think Strauss is more of a testimony to the possibilities that game offers than any preference that women might have to dandy, less masculine men. If anything, the way he dresses is more of peacocking than a personal preference. And once he became somewhat of a “brand” that he has to stay within that brand.

    Get your own “ass in the grass”, approach, hone your approach, make your bones, then come back and talk shit about Neil Strauss. You fucking bring home Britney Spear’s phone number then say shit.

    Motherfucker is one of most important figures in Game. Jeez. Strauss ain’t your fucking enemy.

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  56. Obama??? Give me a break. Michelle makes Rosie O’Donnell look like a beauty queen. And she probably wears the pants in the White House, too.

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  57. on October 20, 2012 at 6:05 pm A FemBOTtyonaFriday

    FROM A FEMININE [DICHOTOMOUS] MAN (according to my perspective, based on self-awareness)

    I have effeminate qualities. It’s due to how I was raised to express myself – artistically (due in large part to having been suggested as a child to give myself creative outlets for what chaos surrounded me). However I wouldn’t consider myself even close to metrosexual (I haven’t showered for…a long time, though that doesn’t mean I’m entirely dirty….), I’d say I am Feline by nature. This attracts many exotic women (and never have I settled for someone I felt was below my standards), & essentially every girl I meet – yet only those who aren’t confused about their sexuality (and bicuriosity) often follow suite. Though I just let them accept, realize, and make their own way into my world-view.

    I realized it’s the mix of a deep voice, an unflinching eye-gaze (along with a learned inability to apologize), & a comfortable-confidential (as in discreet, however always hinting toward progressively more; furthermore, always aware of and considering consent as legitimate to a certain extant) confidence, combined with a coy & at first-sight innocent, though later learned to be hardly-strictly anything close to it image, that brings them in, and keeps them all around for however long I truly feel it to be worthwhile for me.

    I made it a rule to always have the woman chase me since I was very young. Game taught me to play the opposite way, and chase what tail I perceived as worthy of chasing. However that is more a refinement of learning how to cope with what social constructs and mechanisms I’ve easily used to manipulate my surroundings since a child – though always with an ethical & moral consideration entwined.

    Furthermore, the one thing “metrosexuals” (which I thought were just gay dude’s[?]) got right – or in being one who’s keenly aware of the senses, which is something I’ve held onto – is the importance of scent. I simply have perfected and created a perfect smell, which – in last night’s girl’s words – leads to: “Do you just get girls to fall in love with you and then leave them?” to which I replied, “Sure,”. She went on to explain how she had to leave so she could get over me (we’d only slept together a handful of times one day after meeting her & getting her number), revealing as she denied her own plausibility that she loved me and didn’t want me to leave, testing my willingness to care or not if she left in the moment due to me agreeing with her. Difficult to explicate, however much akin to the phenomena of, say, a BPD who – the moment she breaks up with you – falls back in love and fuck’s you like a king, treating you like gold, only because she’s using you as a conduit for her “deserved” pleasure which is “emotional pain in regret” as punishment. If that made sense.

    The response to such “shit-test’s” like one-word aloof phrases that work & make a girl wet immediately (literally, when they are sitting on your lap you can feel the wetness through the panties leaking onto your jeans) is what Game taught me. And the realization of the inherent truth in said observation. Repeatedly, “I can’t be here,” or “I shouldn’t be doing this,” is told to me. I tell them, OK, don’t do this then, and leave. I too respect their requests, however read their obvious cues. Being hypnotic, would be one term to describe it. Or intoxicating, my game. Most behavior came naturally (it was the communicative aspect which was most difficult to hone in on); as I learned if I ever wanted a girl I simply had to not care for her existence, though make my presence apparent (patiently or immediately, respectfully). Where feminization & being raised by a single mother has become problematic is in the emotional aspect. As I, as it’s been said above, am affected by strong emotional bonds with SOME of those who I choose to reveal my entire being to. What I fear most is that I’ll never attain that level of being purely beta, and unaware of the carousel-girl I’m with. That ignorance truly sounds like bliss. Or the same ignorance of the Alpha who simply doesn’t care. I don’t care, however it’s in a different way. I don’t care if you’re a whore or a virgin, ’cause when I’m done with you you won’t want to come off as either. A teacher of women, is probably a better way to say it, not a leader. Women follow only themselves.

    Men become feminine around me, and women do too. However those who I don’t care for essentially see me as a Ghost – or those I lose interest in, turn into “Ghost’s” – and I into a distant playful memory of what could have been & should have been but will never be. So no one ever knows who exactly it is I am or what it is that I am doing. But think they do, hence the power of the Dandy. Illusion.

    One very interesting thing I wanted to share here, after experiencing it countlessly, and confirming it now with girls aged 18 – 42, is that they all essentially want you to be in control, however to do so with a masked kindness & bewildering sense of self-awareness (so strong that they question who and what they are based on your frame – intimidation, perhaps); in that they are aware of what berating act’s they are pursuing with & through you, however you are being as a conduit the one who confirms their sexuality as being OK, thus expressible & non-judgmentally accepted. Furthermore, they don’t necessarily (or at all, nowadays, it seems – until it’s too late) want love: though can, will, do, dream, desire, pretend to experience it as you radiate your own idea of what love is, as it’s projected onto them & back at you.

    So even after a girl say’s, “I can’t be here, because you’re just going to leave me, and why would I bear my soul, or share myself with you if you’re not going to stick around [and be trainable]?” You just say, Ok, I understand, however we’re here now, so do what you want.

    Chance’s are she’ll literally be bending over backwards in confusion attempting to find a way out the door, but instead make her way to your bed, your cock, etc…As long as she doesn’t feel threatened beyond the point of knowing you hold the secrets to her pleasure, in that you extend your graceful dick to glide into her mouth without repercussion or regret.

    But one thing fella’s, is that SCENT truly is a charm that work’s wonders. Hence why I rarely speak anymore. I just command attention when I want, do what I want, and let them become addicted to what smell they will never find again, lest it’s through me, which they [learn to] crave.

    I don’t know how else to explain this. But I have yet to meet a single female who disagrees with me, as I speak the truth to them, in that I’m “aloof” as one has recently told me, or “know how to easily make other girls jealous, huh” as another one said. As shit-test’s, which I passed, in understanding Game at my own finely attuned level. It’s also taught me how to weed out the keeper’s [keep-her] from the sleeper’s [sleep-around-whore’s].

    Furthermore, in talking to any girl I feel like, they know that I am not afraid of women in general (and word get’s ’round quick), thus the most attractive one’s tremble in my presence, the youngest one’s follow my lead, the uglier orbiting one’s appear out of the woodwork with their hopes up – thinking I’m game – and the one’s I want simply come to me as I please; as only do I respond to a command given to them (i.e., texting: “Come over tonight. Bring wine.” if they do, they do, and I precede. If they don’t, I don’t speak with them until they say they want to come over and have wine. Then they do, and they bring it. And they train themselves to follow what I have to say. I reject girls consistently, to make sure the hotter one’s know, via word of mouth, the less attractive one’s aren’t my type, however I do so kindly, gently, and subtly.

    Try that game out for a change. Also leave nothing available for them to find that hints at anything about you or who you are or what you do (even use a fake name). I’m seeing more and more how women want to do what they want however give and receive pleasure as another man direct’s according to his whim & ignoring hers, though doing so obviously consensually & respectfully. Though I think it may be a tough one for most chump’s to figure out, as I’ve seen many a man around me attempt wear my mask, and fail miserably. However I simply am born this way.

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    • on October 22, 2012 at 11:01 pm gunslingergregi

      the perfected smell is another chicks pussy juice on you
      well ok and some other shit
      chick i know got dudes cooking for her and bending over backwards to do everything she says but she gets to my house and cleans and takes care of me and my shit and if i am angry sligthly will cry for hours at her causing me displeasure.

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      • Ask the Artist’s.

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      • I tell you all so you know how it’s the subtleties that count. And the dick’s in cunt that matter.

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      • My conundrum now is, do I just fuck the Virgin’s (and bother with making them prove to me they’re worthy – legally obligated to make decisions themselve’s)? Or do I just have the Whore’s make ME food, and buy me what I want. Or do I do both – and everything in-between? I know why Porn Star’s don’t kiss, now.

        ‘Cause the virgin’s, like the whore’s, pay for my shit. But they all have throat’s that I can like a frenchman get into, reaching beyond their reflex. If one here could even understand.

        It was forty dollars last night – given to me. Just for what I asked for, after she went to get it for me, and get what she wanted from me. How’s that for a change, manly men? Just do as you please, and you’ll receive what you ask for.

        Doesn’t take a cunt to be one, though it obviously take’s a dick to have one. Respectfully mine.

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    • on October 23, 2012 at 7:22 am gunslingergregi

      One very interesting thing I wanted to share here, after experiencing it countlessly, and confirming it now with girls aged 18 – 42, is that they all essentially want you to be in control, however to do so with a masked kindness & bewildering sense of self-awareness (so strong that they question who and what they are based on your frame – intimidation, perhaps); in that they are aware of what berating act’s they are pursuing with & through you, however you are being as a conduit the one who confirms their sexuality as being OK, thus expressible & non-judgmentally accepted. Furthermore, they don’t necessarily (or at all, nowadays, it seems – until it’s too late) want love: though can, will, do, dream, desire, pretend to experience it as you radiate your own idea of what love is, as it’s projected onto them & back at you.

      So even after a girl say’s, “I can’t be here, because you’re just going to leave me, and why would I bear my soul, or share myself with you if you’re not going to stick around [and be trainable]?” You just say, Ok, I understand, however we’re here now, so do what you want.

      ”””””
      good shit

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  58. Sometimes the unmanly guys seem like cute, unthreatening practice boyfriends, perhaps for the same reasons they screw other girls. But eventually they start searching for alpha males.

    I know this hot but airheaded young girl who married some little guy with a faggy voice, and then divorced him within a year. Right now she’s seeing some guy in the Army.

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  59. Interesting post, but I would hasten to add that this isn’t anything new…back in 18th Century Europe, especially France, upper-class men were extremely unmanly with their powdered wigs and stockings, makeup and high heels. Of course that was also kind of a moment in time before the fall of that section of society (the French Revolution, the Napoleonic Wars, then industrialization). As you alluded to, it seems to me that when the men of a society become less manly, it’s basically a sign that that society is fundamentally an unbalanced, unsustainable one. If that’s any indication, it explains a whole lot about our present state of affairs.

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    • “back in 18th Century Europe, especially France, upper-class men were extremely unmanly with their powdered wigs and stockings, makeup and high heels.”

      Those were issues of style and fashion, no so much unmanliness. Those “unmanly” guys would fight you to the death over a minor insult, with big blades, face to face. If you talked shit it was “Pistols at dawn” not AMOGing. These guy were hardly unmanly.

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      • If you talked shit it was “Pistols at dawn” not AMOGing.

        Yup… back then, there was a price to being an asshole. “I’ll sue!” and “I’m calling the cops!” just got you laughed at more, if not another boxed ear.

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  60. “I hate what men have done to this planet!”… a feminist war cry. But its way wrong. Men are doing what they do, because women don’t reward peace loving men with sex or babies. I don’t mean to give women the power though. They are victims of Darwinism. Maybe men are too.

    Still I’d like to see more thoughts from Heartiste and others, about the big picture. Beyond the local “be alpha. fuck every woman.”. Why do betas exist, in terms of evolution. How can a beta become alpha. What happens if every man goes alpha. Is alpha/ beta/ gay genetic and can’t be changed.

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  61. One of the most-successful-with-girls guys I’ve known was a dude you might think, on first meeting him, was gay. One great-looking (and smart) g.f. after another. He did a WHOLE lot better than the manly men did. Of course, this was in NYC …

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  62. Our age is the enthronement of the SWPL!

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  63. I thought Strauss was well dressed the first time I saw him interviewed, buy his voice was shocking to me – so gay sounding.

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  65. Guys who are more needy are more motivated to pursue girls, because they are dependent on their approval.

    So what happens is, guys who are internally stronger might not put as much effort into getting girls because they don’t NEED them. The weaker guys will succeed more due to being more motivated and not having the internal fortitude to handle life without a shoulder to cry on.

    Weaker people need the support of others more. Just look at women. Women are weaker than men, and they can barely tie their shoes without the love and support and encouragement of their hen consortium and 15 orbiters.

    A normal masculine guy might want support from time to time, but doesn’t NEED it as much, so he might not develop as much in that direction. So in the end, his internal fortitude plays against him at times. And when he is in circumstances where there is a relative status differential (such as in a nightclub, or being alone), the more catty among us will be looking to exploit those status differentials – again due to being of weaker character. Like look at how women fight – it’s less direct and more insidious, due to being weaker and not being able to fight directly.

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  66. An issue here is that there is an aspy side to many readers who get an unnuanced idea of the “manly PUA”. They end up thinking

    A. One should be a caveman in a loud club – Sometimes this works, but you’ll do better cavemanning as a preselected entity in the home of a girly mutual friend like Blair in Gossip Girls after drinks at Le Cirque. An alpha “metrosexual” can switch personalities and caveman at a better moment such as when he has someone in the comfortable pink lair of another girl.

    B. It’s manly to sarge alone – It does take more balls to do that, but there’s no preselection when you do this and flaking happens a lot here

    C. The wingman should be other alpha males – Preselection works here but having girly female wingwomen can be 10 times more effective on that score. The gay men in “Sex and the City” were in a perfect position to meet women if they weren’t really gay, and if they were interested in thirty something women which an alpha would not be (in real life the women in the show would not be getting the men they were getting).

    D. They should “pump and dump” – This is dumb because rejecting any woman who could be willing to introduce you to other girls, thus providing pre-selection, is self defeating behavior. Pre-selection can be 50% of game. So, in the morning when you want to get rid of someone, think again. Better to ask her “Let’s have lunch with one of your equally hot friends.”

    The “manly” men will have, meanwhile, ejected before he got better referrals.

    I’ve gone from getting 7’s to 8’s to 9’s to 9.5’s partly because I’ve rejected women diplomatically by telling them I need variety and, by the way, can you introduce me to a hot friend now and then and we’ll all hang out together? Each time I do this, I graduate to a new level because of preselection.

    Also, the “manly” man will have “learned” on some PUA blogs to be a cheap skate and would never “lower” himself to pay for a night out with the girls (after becoming friends and getting in telephone contact) or pay one of his gal pals for a massage or something like that which would get her used to being on a bed with him. They believe everything has to be based on the raw desire of the female instead of manipulating her into getting comfortable with him. Manly men have rigid codes of honor that straight jacket them.

    And for those who think this behavior “only works in Babylon”, it worked fine 500 years ago in the days of Casanova and 2000 years ago in the days of Ovid so, unless you’d like to reverse the effects of the entire Ag Age of the past few thousand years, this is just the way life for an alpha always was and always will be.

    So don’t “pump and dump”. “Pump and pimp” is better advice.

    Find female wingwomen, preferably girls under 21 like Blair and Serena on Gossip Girls. You then shouldn’t have time for your alpha male wingmen.

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  67. to be the most efficient player you can be, you have to be the manly man as well as the unmanly man. shit is situational.

    if i’m up against some juiced up gorilla, i’ll tool him and make him look stupid. if i’m up against some hipster fag, i might try to physically intimidate him or make some of my manly buddies do it for me, as well as clowning him for overtly peacocking etc.

    once a woman sees that a guy is scared or being tooled, her gina is pretty much gonna dry up when it comes to him.

    just do whatever works. it’s the dark triad thing to do.

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  68. Strauss: he’s a metrosexual who comes across like a slimy worm

    I completely agree with the description. Most of famous PUAs are exactly like that. Mistery is even worse.

    The only departure with the comment is that it doesn’t surprise me to see repulsive creatures like Strauss and Mistery swooping chicks. I guess is some age stuff, by the time I started hitting on girls, those peacocks were already active, though not yet famous. I haven’t live in the pre-peacock age. So those guys don’t surprise me.

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  69. Girls are mostly bisexual, and the ones with the highest sex drive are the most bisexual. There is nothing surprising about them being attracted to “unmanly” guys.

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  71. a few years ago, didn’t you write a post and show a picture of you meeting neil strauss at a book signing?

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