Dirty Photo Album

If I could give just one piece of advice to my hypothetical son, it would be this:

Never take women seriously.

If I could give him a second piece of advice, it would be this:

Make an indecent photo album of every girl you’ve ever banged.

“Trust me, son,” I will say, “when you’re in your dotage, and all you’ve got is your loving but completely asexual old wife, and the young women walking down the street have stopped returning your flirtations, you’ll thank me when you crack open your dusty dirty digital pics and videos to marvel at… and masturbate to… the fine ass you once tapped.”

“But dad,” he’ll argue, “I want to cherish their memories, not splooge on them. Anyhow, I can always turn to internet porn if I want to get off. In 50 years, it’ll probably be holographic.”

That’s when I’ll explain to him that the best way to cherish past loves is to keep their memories alive and fully expressed through the indomitable tumescence of his stiff cock. What an honor to bestow on a woman! Of all the women in the world… of all the readily available porn… it’s *your* naked pic from 30 years ago, dear love, I choose to stroke off to. And then I’ll remind him how much more satisfying porn is when the featured stars are you and one of your exes in the bloom of youth. Nothing brings back the flood of happy memories like a photo of an ex spread-eagled on the bed, her youthful meatflaps illuminated by the nightvision on your camera.

Given that everyone’s sexual future, once over a certain age, likely will be worse than their past, a dirty photo album of conquests from better days will help ease the pain of encroaching obsolescence. It will remind one of the prowess one once possessed, boosting the ego as well as stirring the loins. In my coffin, I would want my dirty photo album placed tenderly upon my chest, to accompany me to hell.

The dirty photo album also serves a purpose in the present. When you are in a rut, and your game has gone soft, a quick glance at the hotties you scored over the years will fortify your resolve, and invigorate you with the renewed confidence that what you once bedded, you could bed again.





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  1. When I am a bit down I come to this site and within minutes I am laughing my ass off.

    Thanx.

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  2. on December 5, 2008 at 12:28 pm ironrailsironweights

    In my coffin, I would want my dirty photo album placed tenderly upon my chest, to accompany me to hell.

    I’m hoping that they have trouble getting my coffin closed.

    Peter

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  3. Never take women seriously.

    By itself, nothing is more meaningless than rejection by a woman.

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  4. Sure has been a while since PUA master Roissy has had any interesting field reports, no?

    Since he is wracking his brain for something to post 5-6 days a week to drive traffic, I guess halfhearted rants like “Dirty Photo Album” (sounds better than “Senior Citizen Jacking Off”) will have to do.

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  5. Couldn’t agree more.

    I have a trusted friend who knows the whereabouts of my collection and has instructions on what should happen to it should I die prematurely. I would recommend you all do the same. The last thing I want is to die prematurely, probably from auto-erotic asphyxiation, and have my parents accidentally stumble across some of “home movies” when sorting through my belongings. Sure, my father will be proud. But my sweet mother… she deserves better.

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  6. Hell? I thought you were a hedonist because there was no judgment…

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  7. Never take women seriously.

    My old man gave me that advice when I was younger and I plan on doing the same when I have boys….if I have boys.

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  8. on December 5, 2008 at 1:50 pm Average Hadron Collider

    Make a life size bronze of them – on all fours.
    What tribute to their beauty .

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  9. I agree but the one you showed me of that one chick giving herself the shocker was kinda nasty…. but kinda hot….. but in the end it was nasty

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  10. This is pretty funny stuff.

    This can all be avoided by finding the Fountain of Youth.

    Which I think I have.

    I simply DO NOT age anymore. Crazy.

    “When you are in a rut”

    Never been in one.

    – MPM

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  11. How many comments into this thread already, and no mention of a couchbound, ancient DA flipping through a holographic album, alternating between perfectly acrylic-nailed porn stars and a super-clean, efficient metropolitan railroad system, and eventually succumbing to overstimulation ?

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  12. sex is good, yes… i like

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  13. sex is good, yes… i like

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  14. on December 5, 2008 at 3:29 pm ironrailsironweights

    How many comments into this thread already, and no mention of a couchbound, ancient DA flipping through a holographic album, alternating between perfectly acrylic-nailed porn stars and a super-clean, efficient metropolitan railroad system, and eventually succumbing to overstimulation ?

    Well when I’m couchbound and ancient, you know what will be in my holographic album.

    Peter

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  15. I would want my dirty photo album placed tenderly upon my chest, to accompany me to hell.

    Well at least you know your destination.

    I must say Roissy really does have a way with words. He should write a book. I enjoy DA’s writing style as well.

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  16. one chick giving herself the shocker

    VK, what is a shocker?

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  17. Chic, dear,

    For someone who does not believe in afterlife, hell is as cozy as heaven 🙂

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  18. Chicnoir = “I must say Roissy really does have a way with words. He should write a book. I enjoy DA’s writing style as well.”

    Yes, he sure does and I hope he does write a book. He kind of reminds me of Mark Ames who published the eXile Newspaper in Moscow (since shut down my Russian authorities.) In fact, so do most of the posters on this site. I’d say of the blogs I’ve come across, this one has one the highest intellectual levels of readership, which is ironic given that the topic is game.

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  19. Hey DK, I discovered the eXile based on your recommendation. I know it’s shut down in Russia but did you know Ames is keeping it going at a new site?

    http://exiledonline.com/

    It’s pretty much my number one source for news commentary now. Can’t thank you enough.

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  20. Dynamo Kiev I’d say of the blogs I’ve come across, this one has one the highest intellectual levels of readership, which is ironic given that the topic is game

    Cosign and while the people run the gambit of “nerdom”, we don’t have our heads in our asses.

    PA,Roissy,MU, and Tupac
    Bee Shaffer
    <a http://parkavenuepeerage.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/beeshaffer1.jpg

    Georgina Chapman

    Bee Shaffer is the daughter of Anna Wintour(E&C Vogue)
    Georgina Chapman is the wife of Harvey Winstein(tp)

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  21. Pupu, I think Roissy is more of an agnostic than atheist.

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  22. The dirty old man is an ugly old man. A beautiful old man is a rarity.

    And when the body is not capable, and the mind is continuously haunting you about something which the body is incapable of doing, the old man is really in a mess. His eyes are sexual, lusty; his body is dead and dull. He starts having a dirty look on his face; he starts having something ugly about him….

    The old man knows that those childish desires were really childish. He has known them and now all those days of youth and turmoil are gone. The old man is in a state when the storm has gone and silence prevails. That silence can be of tremendous beauty, of depth, of richness. If the old man is really mature, which is very rarely the case, then he will be beautiful. But people grow in age, they don’t grow up. Hence the problem.

    Did you write that down?

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  23. In my coffin, I would want my dirty photo album placed tenderly upon my chest, to accompany me to hell.

    How dramatic.

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  24. Chicknoir, I believe they’re referring to a violet wand, a tens unit, or the DIY version, wet 9-volt battery to the fun button.

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  25. Chicknoir, I believe they’re referring to a violet wand, a tens unit, or the DIY version, wet 9-volt battery to the fun button.

    lol

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  26. Ladies,

    Learn to use the interwebs:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shocker_(hand_gesture)

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  27. We will be waiting for you down there in hell, Roissy. There are some smoking hot, blond haired blue babes for you to bang too. I brought them with me.

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  28. Tupac Chopra
    Chicknoir, I believe they’re referring to a violet wand, a tens unit, or the DIY version, wet 9-volt battery to the fun button.

    lol

    😯

    smh
    trust Tupac to bring the perv every time

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  29. Just make sure the young thing you pick up in the club is actually 18+ and not a 17 yr old girl with a fake id…. an unfortunate setup indeed…. especially with photographs of such things.

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  30. @epiclolz- We have a few guys here who like them 14-17.

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  31. I like anything above 13..

    12 is just a bad number you know

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  32. My old roomate from my twenties had a polarioid collection going back to the late seventies.

    He counted once for the other bouncers just how many women that he remembered sleeping with. It was before his 28th birthday. The number he came up with after thinking about it all night was 473 if my memory serves (might have been 463). The other bouncers used to tease him about how many coat room blow jobs and break time fucks he’d get out in his car (if you were a hot underage chick, you could get in the club if you were willing to put a dick in your mouth…………………..and this was the eighties). He was the head of security………..so he got the perks most often.

    He had A LOT of gals on video. He had this mood-ball-looking-thingy on a nightstand. It looked like a Space Oddessy 2001 sort of gimmick. It had a video camera inside of it that he probably swiped from his day job (he was a cop).

    Anyhoo……………..my pal had a shoebox full of polaroids of some very damn good looking women, and some very damn ugly ones. *****

    Getting laid was his “hobby” and he was blessed with extrodinary good looks, great size (about 6-1 240), intelligent, and had extrodinary people skills. He had a psychology major and I think this also helped him .

    Funny story: The tapes probably cost him his second marriage (he was cheating damn near every day anyway……..especially with a nurse in her minivan on her lunch hour and a beauty salon owner in the storeroom at the end of her shift, but I digress). He hid the tapes in plain sight in his video collection, figuring his wife would never want to look at his stash of John Wayne movies. Low and behold, he walked in one afternoon, and she is sitting there, Indian style, watching him fuck one of her past “rivals”, slapping C_____ on the ass and calling her every name in the book (I’d seen that tape, he slapped her right in the face a LOT while fucking her missionary right out of the blue, which was hysterical because she actually liked that. Oh well, to each her own). Needless to say………………….the marriage kinda went downhill from there. Trust issues. Go figure. His wife caught him having lunch one to many times with ex girlfriends that he was still fucking. The thing is, that the wife was at least an 8 on most men’s charts, and probably closer to a 9. That was him though. He is a once-in-a-lifetime-kinda person.

    ***************In the late seventies, when he was a cop in east Tennessee, outside of Knoxville, he and a couple of his buddies used to go “hogging” on Tuesday nights (no bars open on Tuesdays back then). They’d COMPETE to see who could fuck the fattest redneck chick AND GET HER PICTURE OR ON VIDEO. He’d win this little contest more oft than not. He’d go to Waffle Houses and Shoneys and Convienience stores and chat up the redneck waitresses for leads and phone numbers……..and fuck “pretty whores” (they were all whores to him, thats what he called women when he didn’t call them “fuckholes” and “cum recepticals” the rest of the week.

    When he was my roomate, that son-of-a-bitch would fuck a woman just about every single day, and on some days he’d have one come by on his lunch break for a fuck, and another one that night. Ive never seen anything like him.

    He settled down for good in his mid-forties and got married to a nice—and pretty damn hot—-single mom. Theyve been married for about 8 years now. He is faithful to her, which just goes to show ya’ that anyone can toe the line if they try hard enough.

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  33. DA and Roissy should become co-bloggers. One day whacking off to porn and rail fanning, and the next day shagging Russian chicks while ever tightening Game. It’d be a blast.

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  34. Unrelated, but this is the purest expression of beta courtship methods ever penned by Man. I saw it and thought, “This guy’s been reading Roissy.”

    http://www.xkcd.com/513/

    S

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  35. For someone who does not believe in afterlife, hell is as cozy as heaven

    Heaven and hell exist.

    Billy Joel sings:

    I’d rather laugh with the sinners that cry with the saints
    — “Only the Good Die Young.”

    What a baby-boomer douche. In heaven there will be fun and sex and booze, among loftier things. In hell, there will be a watching of all the fun, through a fogged-up window and a knowledge that you will never, ever taste any ot it.

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  36. “But dad,” he’ll argue, “I want to cherish their memories, not splooge on them.

    Remember when we used to park
    On Butler Street out in the dark
    Remember when we lost the keys
    And you lost more than that in my backseat, baby

    Ah, teenage memories…

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  37. Here is a cherished memory:

    I’m sixteen, at about the time the when above-quoted song came out. She’s a year younger — she was the cutest thing — and we’re in my mom’s car, parked in a secluded spot near the entry to a state park. Next thing I know, a cop’s flashlight shines all over her titties.

    We both freeze, she grabs something to cover herself with, and the cop gives me a lecture… a looong lecture … about how it’s illegal to park here and next time he sees me here, blah blah blah… but he lets us drive away.

    And he’s about to let us go, when he asks my companion if she’s all right, or if she needs to be driven to her parents’ house. She reflexively and nervously — being that she’s completely naked and clutching to a shirt that she’s trying to cover herself up with while the flashlight is all over her — say “No, I’m fine.” And finally we drive away. And find a different parking spot.

    Man, that 40-something cop had a “cherished” memory that night too.

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  38. I wonder whether my work mate will want his wife’s photos. Yesterday he calls his Mrs on the mobile (4.00 am) only to find out it was coming from the neighbors house (with whom she had a previous affair, but ‘promised’ it was over). He promptly goes over to find out they’re having a threesome and ends up getting pinned down by the three and copped a walloping!

    I guess he’ll have a hard time explaining to his children their mothers a skank.

    Photos? I’d rather a nice trophy mount of their sorry arses.

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  39. @niko- He should have packed up and move his wife and family after he found out about the affair. There was no way the wife could stay in peace without the neighbor trying to hit it again on “GP”.

    I understand that some people cheat but…
    why did his wife do it with the neighbor. I’m sure there were other good looking men in the city or town. When a person cheats with someone who is so close to/with you it’s a major sign that they don’t respect you as a person.

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  40. on December 5, 2008 at 10:39 pm ironrailsironweights

    Heaven: GNP’s galore.
    Hell: Bald Eagle City.
    Purgatory: Landing Strips.

    Peter

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  41. Tying your fetish in with the afterlife? I am impressed.

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  42. In Peter’s heaven, the most popular musical is “Hair.”

    Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair
    Flow it, show it
    Long as God can grow it
    My hair

    Let it fly in the breeze
    And get caught in the trees
    Give a home to the fleas in my hair
    A home for fleas
    A hive for bees
    A nest for birds
    There ain’t no words
    For the beauty, the splendor, the wonder
    Of my…

    Hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair, hair
    Flow it, show it
    Long as God can grow it
    My hair

    I want it long, straight, curly, fuzzy
    Snaggy, shaggy, ratty, matty
    Oily, greasy, fleecy
    Shining, gleaming, streaming
    Flaxen, waxen
    Knotted, polka-dotted
    Twisted, beaded, braided
    Powdered, flowered, and confettied
    Bangled, tangled, spangled, and spaghettied!

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  43. @ chicnoir

    as opposed to cheating on someone far away from home shows respect? 😉

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  44. on December 6, 2008 at 1:24 am The Gene Pool

    Roissy,

    Thank you for not polluting me with any actual offspring.

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  45. You won’t care about long-ago sex partners. Pictures of family, friends, pets long dead. That you will care about.

    There’s more to life than just sex.

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  46. But Tupac, that is the French scissors.

    Though I suppose for vanilla people, that would be a shocker.

    So what do they call milking the bull (basically the same thing to a guy) in the U.S. now?

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  47. Whiskey, there may be more to life than sex, but as a great grandchild of a…rather experienced man, I can vouch that some memories do stay enough to be shared with non judgemental grandchildren.

    By the time I had listened to enough of his tales (which by the way Lupo, assisted my learning a great deal) when I was 18, I wondered why he didn’t write memoirs. I think he was afraid of his wife finding the evidence while she was living.

    Unfortunately, he died before I had the chance to write them for him.

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  48. Peter “Well when I’m couchbound and ancient, you know what will be in my holographic album.”
    === With Smell-O-Vision, I presume?

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  49. BTW, Peter, since bald eagles repel you, here’s a vision of Hell for ya…

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  50. on December 6, 2008 at 1:34 pm ironrailsironweights

    “Saving the best for last” isn’t a bad rule to follow. And so it is with with these delightful photos, where you have to go all the way to the last one before getting a nice view of a flavorful GNP.

    Peter

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  51. Glad you know your
    destination.

    You are a lecher and a bully, Roissy. If I were a man I would track you down and beat the shit out of you. You deserve no respect from decent people — and the fact that you apparently have online fans is a sad commentary on the present time.

    I hope and trust that someday, long after you have grown out of glorying in behaving like a pig, somebody will publicly expose you as the author of this site.

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  52. Please Roissy, write us a post about Steve Avery. We are in need of your opinion and brilliance on all this.

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  53. Would you consider Avery an alpha?

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  54. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/12/022236.php

    Interesting link on how one man found meaning and peace in his life.

    I would try this but my wife would laugh at me.

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  55. Roissy

    this is great advice – however lots of the chicas at my college won’t let pictures be taken of them for the memory book –

    There are certain things that they don’t want preserved – especially the ones that are experimenting with sex with larger dogs.

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  56. A. snored:

    Glad you know your
    destination.

    You are a lecher and a bully, Roissy. If I were a man I would track you down and beat the shit out of you. You deserve no respect from decent people — and the fact that you apparently have online fans is a sad commentary on the present time.

    I hope and trust that someday, long after you have grown out of glorying in behaving like a pig, somebody will publicly expose you as the author of this site.

    lecher and bully? How about insightful and intelligent? One would be quick to dismiss you as an angry feminist, the husband in the “Visualizing Omega” post, or just a guy who is angry at his life. But I think we need you to provide some more basics on yourself.

    As for “expose you as the author of this site” there are several random pictures that seem to be of Mr. Roissy throughout this site. I often wonder if I ran a successful blog of this type, how I would keep my privacy. Openly admit ownership? Hide privately in the shadows? Perhaps just my closest friends know I am the author. I think public ownership would in fact increase my sex life, however, there are always psychos like you out there. I recall a popular sex-related blog by a female who was recently outted – however – her family seemed able to take it in stride. I’ve often debated posting my thoughts on a blog in topics of this, but include some of my best tucker max level stories.

    On a somewhat related note, I once came across a site that allowed users to anonymously post their sex life – sounded like a calendar to help you keep track, maybe add some stories, etc in the name getting a calendarexc feel for just how often you get laid, and with who. Anyone know what it is?

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  57. Dialogue from my bedroom last night (well, early this morning):

    HER: so, have you had a lot of skanks up here?

    ME: I don’t like that term, skanks. They’ve all been wonderful women who I had a lot in common with. I’m not really a player.

    HER: I would have believed that a couple of hours ago, but now I’m naked when I had zero intention of taking anything off.

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  58. @MQ

    Loved the dialogue bit.

    The best similar morning-after line I ever got was:

    “Oh Good God. And you didn’t even get me drunk…”

    Women. We really can’t take them seriously.

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  59. See, I disagree. I think you do have to take women seriously — it’s a serious mistake not to. You just can’t take them TOO seriously. And you need to understand when they really don’t *want* you to take them seriously. Getting the sense for that rhythm is key.

    But if a woman you’ve truly invested in (e.g. married) has a really serious concern and you brush it off, then that can be a disastrous mistake.

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  60. I don’t know if this is of any interest to anyone but here’s a case of a man being forced by the courts to pay child support for a kid that it was proven legally wasn’t his:

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28080381/?gt1=43001

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  61. @MQ

    I hear you. But I’m not sure that’s the case. I have had 3 wives, and frankly, I’m starting to think if I had not taken any of them seriously, I would have been much happier.

    In other words, taking them seriously doesn’t seem to have an effect on outcome, so why bother?

    OK. Off for some much needed excersize….

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  62. chicnoir:

    Pupu, I think Roissy is more of an agnostic than atheist.

    um, no.

    i quote:

    “- there’s no god
    – there’s no soul
    – there’s no karma”
    from here

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  63. “See, I disagree. I think you do have to take women seriously — it’s a serious mistake not to. You just can’t take them TOO seriously. And you need to understand when they really don’t *want* you to take them seriously. Getting the sense for that rhythm is key.

    But if a woman you’ve truly invested in (e.g. married) has a really serious concern and you brush it off, then that can be a disastrous mistake.”

    Preach MQ! You should write a book of your own.

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  64. RagTag,
    Since you ask, I’m a young woman, not a frustrated guy. I came across this site by accident, got irritated, and, internet anonymity being what it is, I was perhaps ruder than I should have been. I’m sorry about the threat — that was stupid and wrong. Of course I’ve never beaten anyone up in my life and I wouldn’t for a minute intend to do violence to Roissy or anyone else. I was just pissed.

    I do think Roissy treats people badly, if he does what he boasts about. He makes a virtue of treating people badly. He’s openly amoral. Sure, there are some common sense insights on the site (men should project confidence, women will be judged by their appearance.) But, seriously, adults don’t treat other adults as tools for their own pleasure. I stand by the “bully” comment. Roissy talks about bullying women, and bullying the men he feels superior to.

    It’s ugly behavior. I think he’ll regret it later if he’s found out. I think anyone who comments here (yes, me included) runs the risk of regretting our brief association with the site if we’re found out.

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  65. Roissy

    Status for men is determined differently depending on which sub culture the man operates in.

    For example, it is quite likely that among the sub culture you operate in, your status is determined by some combination of the number of women you have slept with and the hottness of the average woman you have slept with.

    I see nothing wrong with your sub culture and its status rules.

    However, different sub cultures have different rules. Bill Gates socializes with different people than you do – Bill’s status is determined not by the same measures that your status. For example, Bill obviously has the opportunity to sleep with hundreds of supermodels but knows that it would not enhance his status in his group and thus decides to pass up on an opportunity that you Roissy would jump at.

    Believe it or not, there are some social circles where women who are “sevens” on the hottness scale but very high on the IQ and accomplishment scale can attract better males than the women who are “nines” on the hotness scale.

    There is no one single heirarchy of the human race, no one single dating market value.

    Your male readers who lack attention from females should perhaps consider changing the social circles they are active in rather than attempting to change themselves (through PUA seminars and such)

    For example, if one of your readers is a beta, they might want to join a church that is known to have three times as many nubile young females as it has males. Such churches exist in many parts of the usa.

    Some of the young females at such churces are deliberately seeking betas (not alphas)

    Let’s look at it another way – if you are a high IQ female “seven” that lives in LA you may feel you are constantly being outcompeted by the supermodels and actresses and other “nines” in LA. The logical thing to do is move to Palo Alto where there are very very few “sevens” – by changing your geography you as a female will go from getting almost no attention to getting plenty of attention.

    There is not just one tournament going on – there are thousands of little micro tournaments and competitions.

    Perhaps Roissy you should be advising your loyal readership to find their own niche

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  66. Anonymous
    @ chicnoir

    as opposed to cheating on someone far away from home shows respect?

    In a way, it does.

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  67. Stu — all Western women seek the most dominant socially and physically man they can attract. And will often switch to another of higher status/power when they find him. See Lois Feldman. Went to Church every Sunday.

    You’ll probably find more receptive women to player’s advances in Church than outside it … though relatively few young women attend church or religious services.

    This is simply reality. Gates social circle is comprised of people with fewer partners, to be certain, on average, but the same dynamics apply.

    However your larger point about Alpha is well taken. There are doubtless many men on the Indianapolis Colts with far greater amounts of partners, but Tony Dungee is quite clearly the Alpha man there. As it would be for say, Tom Coughlin of the New York Giants. For most men it is the construction of patronage-power networks. The ability to dispense favors, job-getting references, and so on. That’s real power. It generates in return complex favor-owing hierarchies that extends patronage networks.

    If you seek to understand real power among men, look at who can get someone hired, or save a job, or things like that.

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  68. Peter

    And so it is with with these delightful photos, where you have to go all the way to the last one before getting a nice view of a flavorful GNP.

    Thank you, Peter, you are a delight, and so are the links you post. I love looking at women in their natural glory.

    A.

    I wouldn’t for a minute intend to do violence to Roissy or anyone else. I was just pissed.

    Roissy is basically a coward. Secretive, superior; separate from the rest of humanity; or so he thinks. Yeah, he’ll regret it someday, especially if he has any daughters. He’ll be the one with the shotgun pointed at her dates.

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  69. sara,
    An innocent daughter is God’s vengeance on worn-out players.

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  70. Actually, if you go to any Stanford alumni events you will see that young women that are “sixes and sevens” who attend stanford will often marry their Stanford classmates who are exceptionally good looking muscular and very high earning men.

    Stanford is a micro market for mating. The typical good looking Stanford male is not stupid – he knows that he COULD take Roissy’s advice – however for some good looking high earning males, their first priority is to have children with very high IQ and the only way to get a shot at that is to marry the high IQ female – NOT to chase the hotties.

    Take a little time to read the bell curve – the success and happiness of your sons is to a very large degree determined by the IQ that they are born with. And the only thing you as a father can do to maximize their IQ is to focus on the IQ of the women you are considering as mates.

    Of course the readers of this blog who worship “playas” and dream about sleeping with a supermodel or perhaps marrying an obedient “10” don’t follow this pattern – i doubt very much that the typical reader of this blog is too focused on what is going to be best for his future sons –

    but my point is that there are micro markets out there – yes the majority of the men in the USA agree with Roissy and will pursue the “10” but there are micro markets of men who want something different.

    if you are a woman that is dumb as a rock but is a “10” – move to Los Angeles where most men are like Roissy – you have good odds of doing best in LA

    if you are a woman that is brilliant and a six or seven, if you can get in to Stanford go to Stanford. if you can’t, move to palo alto anyway and join all the venture capital and private equity networking groups. You will do well in those groups –

    in fact i would say that moving to Palo Alto and seeking mates among the venture capital crowd is an option that is not available to the dumb as a rock “10”

    young women who are rational will choose their location and choose their social group based on where the odds are greatest. There is not one unified market there are niche markets

    similarly, my advice to beta males is to not compete head on with the alpha males like Roissy. Find a niche where there are no alpha males like Roissy around. Or go to a place where you are by comparison an alpha –
    for example, ever thought about moving to Wellesley Mass? Many of the numbile young females at school there become “situational lesbians” essentially living their college years engaged in lesbian behaviour since there is such a shortage of males around –

    if you are a beta hitting the same DC bars as Roissy you are bound to strike out – but if you are at a bar in Wellesley that consists of 70 single females and 3 single males, you suddenly are in a much better position

    in fact, you may find that when you compete head to head with Roissy you are a beta, but if you go to a place with the right male female ratio you will suddenly forget the whole alpha beta issue

    in sum, look for a micro market where demand for what you have to offer is very high and supply is very low

    it works

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  71. stu,
    Interesting; How would you advise women?

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  72. If you are a woman with exceptionally high iq you should go to a place where there are many many men who will only consider marrying women with exceptionally high IQ.

    this “assortive mating” is driven by the realization that if they marry a woman without high IQ their sons will not have high IQ

    I know Palo Alto well, but high iq women are similarly valued in some other places

    If you are a woman without a super high IQ, consider moving to Anchorage. The male female ratio is very skewed there, men who are good looking and high earning do not value IQ the way that men in palo alto do, and as a “six” or a “seven” you will do quite well

    Again, it is all about an honest evaluation of your assets and a choice where to go to maximize the value of those assets

    Where you as a woman should move depends on your IQ, your wealth, your income, and your looks, and your level of education / culture.

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  73. The high IQ part is very interesting. I ask you Stu and the other gentlemen: can you name locales where intelligence in women is highly valued?

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  74. Palo Alto is the place where female IQ is exceptionally highly valued and there is a huge supply of single males of all ages.

    there are adherents to Roissy’s playa alpha PUA stuff in Palo Alto but they are easy to avoid since the majority of males there want to have super high IQ sons and thus they will marry exceptionally high IQ women

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  75. you have no son

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  76. Many of the numbile young females at school there become “situational lesbians” essentially living their college years engaged in lesbian behaviour since there is such a shortage of males around

    Wellesley suffers from the fact that its student body isn’t “hot”, and that it’s rather difficult to reach due to it’s distance from the core area of Boston. So, if you’re a smart male on a majority-female or near gender parity campus in Boston, what’s the incentive to go to Wellesley when there are plenty of smart women one one’s campus or on another campus near by? Allegedly, the only guys who really visit Wellesley for the girls are the frat boys and losers who some would argue reek of beta male gin. Wellesley girls want (and some could say feel entitled) to alpha males.

    BTW, David has visited Wellesley pre and post-porn, and David wasn’t interested in chasing any of the women up there. The school’s good if one is interested in “WASPy” looking women…

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  77. Palo Alto is the place where female IQ is exceptionally highly valued and there is a huge supply of single males of all ages.

    NO SHIT. (Yes, I went to high school there, and yes, I’m one of those single males who value female IQ exceptionally highly.)

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  78. @David Alexander

    You’re kidding me! Things must have changed there. I dated Wellesley women back in [insert very long ago date] and it was chock full of hot women. The first woman I wanted to marry was from that college and she was a solid 9 and her assigned “little Sister” two classes behind was a smoking 10. (And yes, when the 9 in an act of inanity dropped me I took little Sis for a long spin.) Of course the Boston of that time was also full of gorgeous women, so much so I nearly failed out of college I was so busy getting laid.

    Agreed on it being a bastion of WASPs, but so what? BU, Tufts and MIT/Harvard for the rest of the diversity….

    As for them being isolated, the bus to/from Harvard Square used to run several times per day!

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  79. I hate to pour water on anyone’s theories, but with all due respect, Stu is just flatout wrong.

    One: The smarter a Woman is, the more susceptible she is to Game. A true Playa doesn’t want a Pet Rock to take home for the night.

    Two: The Alpha/Beta Male Dynamic is everywhere, in all things, just like the Dynamic that undergirds S&M is everywhere and in all things. Therefore, you can be sure there is an Alpha Male in Palo Alto. Granted, he won’t be like the ones in NYC, or Compton, or Newark or the Hamptons, but there’ll be one (or a group). That’s just the nature of Human Nature. And you can be sure those 7s w/the highassed IQs are seeking him out.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  80. Actually, if you go to any Stanford alumni events you will see that young women that are “sixes and sevens” who attend stanford will often marry their Stanford classmates who are exceptionally good looking muscular and very high earning men.

    yes, because of course stanford is chock full of the demographic that aims to marry young and worship the god of fecundity.
    what was i thinking?

    and just what exactly are you, sir, with your complete inability to write coherent prose, doing at stanford alumni events?

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  81. Among most American males, the pick up artist lifestyle advocated by Roissy is indeed the dream and fantasy.

    There are high earning, high IQ groups that choose a path other than the Roissy path.

    Among many ivy league graduates in their 30’s who are now getting married, a person who chooses a “dumb ten” is laughed at compared to a person who chooses a brilliant seven

    Read the weddings page of the NY times and you will see plenty of examples of ivy league men who could have chosen Roissy’s path who instead choose a different path.

    Also check the list of young billionaires in Forbes – how many of them are following Roissy’s advice and how many of them are following another path

    It’s called “assortive mating” – google it.

    Roissy is sort of retro – a throwback to earlier times – today men are marrying women at their own IQ level in general.

    They certainly aren’t marrying in college, but they get used to the IQ level of the girls they are in college with and travel in those circles and ten years after graduation often marry a girl similar to the ones they went to college with

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  82. Roissy is sort of retro – a throwback to earlier times – today men are marrying women at their own IQ level in general.

    I wonder if this is somewhat causal to infidelity rates increasing, since females are socioeconomically converging towards males. Specifically, it appears that females now have the same degrees of freedom as males do w/ respect to economically sound infidelity. Good for them, bad for males. Also I don’t think that unintelligent people should be ridiculed. After all… if you are lucky enough to be smart.. you didn’t do anything besides win a genetic lottery… it could have turned out a different way. Actually a dumb 10 will have a tendency to have children converging towards the average… just as a Sharp 7 will have a tendency to have children that will converge towards the average… Intelligence is no badge to hold up… what you do with it is.

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  83. stu:

    The typical good looking Stanford male is not stupid – he knows that he COULD take Roissy’s advice – however for some good looking high earning males, their first priority is to have children with very high IQ and the only way to get a shot at that is to marry the high IQ female – NOT to chase the hotties.

    Take a little time to read the bell curve – the success and happiness of your sons is to a very large degree determined by the IQ that they are born with. And the only thing you as a father can do to maximize their IQ is to focus on the IQ of the women you are considering as mates.

    If that’s really true, then I must say that from these highfalutin’ IQ folks, I’d expect a bit more, um, intelligent approach. Your kids’ success and happiness in life will depend on their good looks even more than on their intelligence, and the heredity of good looks seems to me much more evident than the heredity of intelligence. So I’d go for the hottie after all.

    Also, as a fan of the Bell Curve, I’d bet you’re a fan of evolutionary psychology too. So, a question for you: if it’s critical to choose a mate so as to ensure high IQ for your offspring, how come we men are all evolved to slobber after hot babes regardless of their success on practical tests of intelligence, while ugly girls don’t give us boners even when they demonstrate Einstein-level smarts? Heh, what a pity they don’t hand out Nobel Prizes for amateur evo-psych. I would probably get one for this idea.

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  84. Bill:

    Among many ivy league graduates in their 30’s who are now getting married, a person who chooses a “dumb ten” is laughed at compared to a person who chooses a brilliant seven

    I’d sure choose a brilliant seven over a dumb-as-a-post ten (assuming of course this “brilliance” doesn’t manifest itself in overly bitchy ways). But you’re making it sound as if there are only sevens and up among women. What about men who choose brilliant fives and below? Are those with dumb tens or less brilliant sevens viewed as losers compared to them too?

    They certainly aren’t marrying in college, but they get used to the IQ level of the girls they are in college with and travel in those circles and ten years after graduation often marry a girl similar to the ones they went to college with

    Well, duh. People usually socialize with their peers of similar socioeconomic status. What’s IQ got to do with it? If you said culture, education, sophistication… I’d believe you — but IQ?! Do they actually find it sexy when a girl has the ability to quickly pair little pictures of squares and triangles in a way that will most likely satisfy some psychologist’s idea of “analogy”?

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  85. Vladimir asks, “Do they actually find it sexy when a girl has the ability to quickly pair little pictures of squares and triangles in a way that will most likely satisfy some psychologist’s idea of “analogy”?”

    No, but some guys with the IQ thing lurking in their subconscious find it sexy when a woman shows her intelligence and talent for living.

    Smart people live differently from people who aren’t so smart, and if a guy is paying attention, he will be able to gauge a woman’s intelligence within a few minutes of seeing her performing mundane activities.

    Though few will admit to it, I believe that the root of some men’s sexual and sometimes deeper preference for older women has to do with proven success. So it doesn’t surprise me at all that this would be a priority for many guys who are seeking women their own age or younger.

    A guy might not care if you can organize squares, but he does care whether or not you are overly vulnerable to manipulation to do harmful things.

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  86. Don’t worry Nicole; the more Mature Ladies of the World have a Friend in Mu.;)

    Salaam
    Mu

    PS: Still waiting for your book recommendations on BDSM Culture, Theory, Practice, etc. Please recommend? Thanks.

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  87. vladimir Do they actually find it sexy when a girl has the ability to quickly pair little pictures of squares and triangles in a way that will most likely satisfy some psychologist’s idea of “analogy”?
    HA
    You know there was once a poster here who said he looks for *high iq when cheking out women at the bar*.

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