A Hedonistic Indulgence Of Links

Naomi Wolf says porn causes men to get inured to sex with real women. There might be something to this theory if we stipulate that by “real women” Mzzz Wolf means “dumpy hausfraus”. One wonders if she is ready to tackle the logical extension of her theory that riding the cock carousel causes women to get inured to sex with betas. I’m betting not.

From the No Duh Files: women orgasm more freely with alpha males. Women don’t need to be consciously aware of their hypergamy; the Darwinian prime directive has ensured that the intensely pleasurable orgasms women experience with alpha males will motivate them to date up when the options are available.

Dennis Mangan has written an insightful post about “social hormesis”. It draws a parallel between the physical body and the body politic, and how the things that won’t kill you really do make you — your body and your country — stronger. Remove those mini-stressors with decadence and wealth, and the whole thing circles the drain. Must reading for those who are looking for the big picture as to why societies decline.

The sexual market experimentally confirmed.

School overcrowding is going to get much worse, thanks to the soft genocide committed upon this nation by the open borders crowd. What happens when there aren’t any Fairfax school systems left to maraud?

Still think an army of sexbots to service the late-stage forager redux societies’ male rejects is pure fantasy? Its arrival is sooner than you think.

Porn and Penetration. The Oscar Academy just rose up and took notice. It moved me.

Meet a modern American traitor.

It’s been asked why every man isn’t tall if women have such a strong preference for tall men. I propose that there is a check on runaway sexual selection for male height — namely, clumsiness. Watch this video and then this one. It’s pretty clear that the shorter guy wearing the white shoes (I think he’s the bassist) is a more rhythmic dancer than either of the two taller guys. His dance moves are more fluid, less jerky. Maybe height brings with it a fitness reducing cost? (Great YouTube comment to the second vid: “In a call center, somewhere in America, four friends started a band…”)

Think the hardcore neg can’t work? “You’re one of the ugliest girls in the club.”

On an unrelated note, I deleted a recent post because so few commenters seemed to have the requisite grown-up reading comprehension and emotional stability to digest it. The comments were 5% insightful, 45% trollish, and 50% incredibly stupid arguments made in bad faith from both sides. That’s a Chateau record bad noise to signal ratio. It made my eyes hurt, so it gave me supreme pleasure to trash it.





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  1. on December 26, 2010 at 4:41 pm Philly Beer Guy

    First!

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  2. on December 26, 2010 at 4:53 pm helene edwards

    I don’t know about the porn inurement theory, but Wolfe’s article is a lie from its first sentence:

    Andrea Dworkin, the anti-porn activist most famous in the eighties for her conviction that opening the floodgates of pornography would lead men to see real women …

    No, what Dworkin was “most famous” for was proclaiming that “all sex is rape.” She basically had no fame that did not derive from that statement.

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  3. Say: “Hey, babe, you are hot– now gimme something Jenna Jameson in HD can’t!”

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  4. I’m actually glad he tossed the anti-Semitism post. the discussion was going nowhere and nobody was learning anything. Honestly, I’m sick of the entire subject and of the folks who obsess on it. I spent WAAAAY too much time worrying about other people and other peoples…and it’s not like I’m going to live forever, or that other people would ever give a shit.

    Time to focus on myself and FTW.

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  5. Or, better yet, with the “neg” in there…

    “Hey, babe, you’re hot… but you’re a tramp– now beat Jenna Jameson in HD if you wanna keep my attention!”

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  6. You…you actually deleted the “Modern Definition of anti-Semitism” post?

    If so, I’m just wondering – where does that rate on the “alpha-meter”? 😀

    I tried to save the page, but FF crapped out. I did manage to save a text dump though.

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  7. I propose that there is a check on runaway sexual selection for male height

    Do men generally prefer taller women? If not, then that preference would also act as a check. It’s not like there are separate “male height” and “female height” genes. A taller mother or father means taller sons and daughters.

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  8. “Think the hardcore neg can’t work? “You’re one of the ugliest girls in the club.”

    yeah..cuz that was the real deciding factor that led the girl to be seduced…bet any old joe beta could pull that one out and have the same results.

    [Editor: If that same dude had walked up to that girl and asked her if she was having a good time, her eyes would have slowly glazed over with boredom and her pussy dried up like a watering hole under a scorching desert sun.
    Your premise is unsound.]

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  9. It’s not porn that numbs men to sex with real women – it’s sex with real women.

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  10. Roissy look at modern average height and average height 100+ years ago. Not only health improvments but sexual selection as well

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  11. Wake up white man…

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  12. This Naomi Wolf article hurts my puny man brain. Does she not realize that nowhere in her article does she do anything BUT objectify women?

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  13. on December 26, 2010 at 6:30 pm (r)Evolutionary

    Re: tall men. Recent study, don’t remember where, showed a stronger prevalence of certain types of cancer in the tallest of folks. The increased risk of oncogenesis was traced to a longer, stronger exposure to growth hormone.

    Also, several martial arts experts have shown that moderate-height men have a significant advantage in hand-to-hand combat vs tall or very tall men, due to better agility, quickness, and a lower center of gravity. This was demonstrated in feudal Japan, where the most lethal Samurai were often in the 5’4″ to 5’6″ range, even though there were a significant number of Samurai that were 5’10” and up.

    Reproductive fitness can be signalled in a number of ways. Not getting cancer can be one. Having a body count of taller slain enemies is another.

    So..again, what women say they want (tall men in this case), what they think they want, and what they respond to biologically, are three divergent trends.

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  14. Tyler Cowen: “Assorted Links”
    Matt Yglesias “Endgame”
    Ezra Klein “Reconciliation”
    The Weekly Standard “Happy Hour Links”

    You work too hard Roissy, 3 out of the 4 above are getting paid for their blogging, and Cheap Chalupas is getting boost in book sales, writing offers, and academic prestige for his hobbyhorse.

    Roissy, with your more than adequate prose craftsmanship, succinct wit, and incisive analysis (the review of 500 Days of Summer was fabulous, you could write a whole book of “game” reviews and it would probably sell given the proper stylization and promotions), writing for a major publication should be easy enough if you toned down your acerbic invective. Once you accrue a more presentable persona these otherwise marginalized “misogynist” arguments could go mainstream.

    If you’re worried about anonymity, you could take the Spengler route. He broadened his horizons to promote Rosenzweig, you could broaden your horizons to proliferate hereditarian “interrogations” and “problematizations” (tongue and cheek here) of the nascent, end-of-history sexual dystopia.

    Up and coming writers start through “guest-blogging”. Maybe you could convince Robin Hanson to let you guest blog a few times and go from there.

    Plus, if successful your newfound fame delivers opportunities to game women who are bonafide “elites”. Novelty is an end in itself.

    Of course you may have deep seeded personal reasons/constraints that necessitate a mantle of anonymity, but I’m just throwing it out there.

    Ross Douthat once wrote a diatribe against masturbation, accusing it as a form of adultery in the Atlantic. He’s now pumping Op-Eds at the New York Beta Times. Tiptoeing and tact gave me a wooden ladder to the top of the greasy pole despite him being the ire of social liberals, feminists, and other leftists in the MSM.

    “Tyler Cowen should write that I call a “book of answers” with the working title Social Intelligence: What I Know About People That You Don’t. The key point of departure: The goal of the book is not to “get readers to ask themselves questions,” but to convey definite answers that Tyler defends without irony. If you think this goes against his nature, I’ve seen him do this many times first-hand – just not in print.” – Bryan Caplan

    Cheap Chalupas is a Straussian, and you’re not, or maybe I haven’t read you deeply enough.

    Tu regere imperio… parcere subjectis et debellare superbos (imagine this italicized)

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  15. The comments may not have been up to your standards but the post wasn’t up to ours. Seriously, stick to what you know.

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  16. on December 26, 2010 at 7:06 pm the_alpha_male

    “That’s a Chateau record bad noise to signal ratio”

    is Roissy really godless? He was fond of using that analogy.

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  17. More important than the neg, or at least as important as the neg in that pick up was the way the guy was silent after he said “let me prove it to you”. The tension was palpable.

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  18. Where’s your book, mofo?

    This blog alone could be converted into a book and would be strikingly better than anything else written on male-female dynamics that you’ll find in bookstores.

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  19. Svigor
    You…you actually deleted the “Modern Definition of anti-Semitism” post?

    If so, I’m just wondering – where does that rate on the “alpha-meter”? 😀
    ——–

    …lesser beta suck-up to the media powers that be. And by blaming the deletion on his readers he slides into BAA-BOO-RA territory.

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  20. [Editor: If that same dude had walked up to that girl and asked her if she was having a good time, her eyes would have slowly glazed over with boredom and her pussy dried up like a watering hole under a scorching desert sun.
    Your premise is unsound.]

    That guy has the looks of a model, and the girl was 100% hooked at his first word. It made no difference what he said.

    [Editor: No, he did not look like a model. Your perception is out of whack. The point is that regardless of his looks, had he said something lame like 99% of men are prone to do, he would not have gotten as far with her. The neg helped his cause, even if it wasn’t the sole reason for his pickup.]

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  21. I wonder what made him take the anti-Semitism post down. Maybe someone Jewish figured out who he was and threatened to unmask him…if he’s not independently wealthy, this much truth-telling is a career-ender.

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  22. About the deleted post: Remember, most readers never comment. So don’t get too upset about what the vocal minority is saying. (This goes double for any political subject.)

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  23. Hormesis makes sense on so many levels. Look at Sub-Saharan Africa, people live under constant hardship so manhood and responsibility are inescapable necessities. The big paradox of the progressives is admiring these people simply for being underdogs (and for being ostensibly more ‘spiritual’) whilst living cosseted lifestyles that couldn’t be further removed. Say what you will about those third world nations; they show man far more in his hormetic element, his traditional element, his tribal element. The comfort of the handflapping Western cosmopolitan nations will be their entropy. As will their charity to third-worlders.

    @SFG: Hah, I can see it. Roissy becoming some kinda martyr of truth, losing his job and then having enough ‘celebrity’ status to sell what’d become the Bible of Game (or if you will, the Mein Kampf of Game) would be some scenario. I wonder how the dating market would be affected and how the female contingent responds as the male populace hones its game.

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  24. Great post, such a solid run down of things going on. I remain cautious of any work from Wolf.

    Many are too afraid to comment on the anti sem post…I would not dare comment on that bowl of wax out of fear and other potential problems. As a lady reader I try to no comment at all but stop by, read and if I really it like link to it on my blog to show support.

    Roissy/chateau said nothing wrong in that particular post.

    Happy new year! may 2011 be great for everyone.

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  25. Good insight on the neg.

    To add to the Samurai dude above, in wars the smaller silhouette gave preselection to shorter guys, even though taller people were more likely to be promoted, or be of higher rank the majority would have had a higher likelyhood of being shot, shrapnell, etc…

    Another interesting thing is what my dad always says. Energy efficiency and optimal size, ergo our body dynamics in relation to our environment. A taller person or a shorter person may have lower/higher heartbeat and wear and tear on limbs due to gravity could be lower/higher. Optimal could be something in the middle.

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  26. That article by Wolf is just another example of female whining when things are not 100% in their favor. It was all about control. They want to discourage all outlets of male sexual energy except the ones they control, the better to control men. The amazing thing was the number of commentors who agreed with her.

    Well, I became “inured” to average women and most women over 30 a while back. What a positive difference that made in my life.

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  27. Think the hardcore neg can’t work? “You’re one of the ugliest girls in the club.”

    Good god that was brilliant. If someone doesn’t believe in Game, then they’ve never seen that video.

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  28. White guys and black guys are different in this respect. John Wall is 6-4 and he’s a better dancer than the guy in the white shoes.

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  29. You expect your readers to have good reading comprehension skills?? This is the internet!

    And anothing thing! I’m tired of seeing this goddamn “Your comment is awaiting confirmation”. Accept me into your heart!

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  30. “One wonders if she is ready to tackle the logical extension of her theory that riding the cock carousel causes women to get inured to sex with betas.”

    They’re not real men in her eyes, ergo no problem of inconsistency to her hamster.

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  31. @JAW: “More important than the neg, or at least as important as the neg in that pick up was the way the guy was silent after he said “let me prove it to you”. The tension was palpable.”
    .
    True. I thought that had way more impact than the neg. Other things he did right:
    Strong, quick approach – no hesitation at all; handled the fake ex-gf plant well and didn’t get flustered when she shit-tested him ie. when she said “you have no class”, he just said what he was planning to say before without acknowledging the remark at all. I’m not familiar with all these fancy terms but I think you guys call the ‘keeping frame’ or ‘re-framing’ or something – in any case it was well done

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  32. Da Neg:

    Bitch, you is butt-ugly… justify my luv!!!

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  33. I think Roissy is entitled to one end of the year indulgence, given the incredible insight he provides the other 51 weeks. I certainly loved the club pick up video.

    But remember Roissy, keep it to once a year.

    I don’t always read pick up blogs, but when I do, I read Citizen Renegade

    Stay Alpha, my friends

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  34. I once read an accusation on Keys to the VIP that they use a friendly bar that is packed with friends of friends of the contestants. Considering those girls have to sign releases to get on television, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was staged like most reality shows.

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  35. That angry girlfriend video was so obviously fake. The girl supposedly gets “dumped” with the super-slick line “have you met my ex-girlfriend?” and then only bothers to act at being angry for only about 10 seconds before moving away? Get real.

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  36. I think people underestimate what’s going on in that video.

    The the male pursuer, although by no means intelligent, is still an excellent player who made a ballsy call to neg hard even though it did not appear to be necessary.

    I give him much credit for such a good play.

    Seriously, how could he have known to drop such a hard neg?

    the convo:

    “Hi, I’m Rob.”

    “I’m Adrianna”

    “I wanna know, what’s it gonna take for you to love me.” (direct game)

    “Straight up like that?” (she’s surprised, slightly incredulous, at such forward behavior. this is a very good reaction to get from a girl fyi) She then continues: “I need balls, and clearly you have them.”

    “I’m not gonna lie, you’re probably one of the ugliest girls in the club….”

    And then they edit it out the rest of the sentence. It may not be obvious, but there’s more to the sentence here, but the TV producers cut out good routines and negs to make sure the beta males who watch this show go and buy the products of the PUA’s on display.

    Therefore, we can’t really know why the neg worked so well, because we are missing out on the crucial follow up to the neg.

    Regardless, the lesson to take home, from the short convo we have, is: How did he know to follow up with a neg to the following phrase?

    “I need balls, and clearly you have them.”

    Had I been in his situation, I don’t think I would have used a neg, nevermind a nuclear neg (an insult in most situations). It’s important to realize that his neg could only be used because of the girl’s self-perceived inflated value of herself, of which somehow this player could pick up on.

    Had the girl’s opinion of herself been even a little bit lower, his neg would have pushed her into a defensive posture with an inevitable blowout of the seduction. Instead, he understood that the statement,

    “I need balls, and clearly you have them”

    WAS A QUALIFYING STATEMENT OF HIM, ergo a shit-test, something one can only perceive after having tried thousands of approaches, the subtly of which completely flies over the audience, the commentators in the show, and I believe most of the commentators of this blog.

    And of course, if the girl is qualifying you, you need to turn it around and qualify her… etc. etc. so that’s why he turned her statement around by basically insulting her.

    It’s unsurprising the TV producers removed the rest of the routine

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  37. The best porn film I’ve ever seen is one that can be found using the search terms “exploited college girls alex” on porn torrent sites. “Alex” is simply gorgeous. The video kind of makes me feel bad for her because she is so shy, hesitant and nervous, as if the men who are filming and fucking her promised her that she’d be a star afterward and she was gullible enough to buy it. She’s 18, and they even make her take it up the butt. It’s hot stuff.

    This is her:

    http://www.exploitedcollegegirls.com/tour3/web/alex_exploited_college_girls_videos_pics.html

    She hasn’t done anything else since.

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  38. “” The video kind of makes me feel bad for her because she is so shy, hesitant and nervous, as if the men who are filming and fucking her promised her that she’d be a star afterward and she was gullible enough to buy it. She’s 18, and they even make her take it up the butt. It’s hot stuff. “”

    Don’t feel bad for her.

    Last I heard , if you get a real job where you have to apply some level of brain power and effort , they pay for that as well.

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  39. Keys to the VIP was a great show based on pick up in Toronto.

    Shut down by the CRTC (canda’s regulatory agency) for unethical practises after they received petitions from various feminist groups.

    My favourite episode…

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  40. http://www.slate.com/id/2177637/?GT1=10636

    I thought this was somewhat interesting. However, I would note that this is all skewed by the fact that it was graduate students. Not exactly a representative sample of women.

    Another clear gender divide, this one less expected, emerged in our findings on racial preferences, reported in a forthcoming article in the Review of Economic Studies. Women of all the races we studied revealed a strong preference for men of their own race: White women were more likely to choose white men; black women preferred black men; East Asian women preferred East Asian men; Hispanic women preferred Hispanic men. But men don’t seem to discriminate based on race when it comes to dating. A woman’s race had no effect on the men’s choices.

    Two wrinkles on this: We found no evidence of the stereotype of a white male preference for East Asian women. However, we also found that East Asian women did not discriminate against white men (only against black and Hispanic men). As a result, the white man-Asian woman pairing was the most common form of interracial dating—but because of the women’s neutrality, not the men’s pronounced preference. We also found that regional differences mattered. Daters of both sexes from south of the Mason-Dixon Line revealed much stronger same-race preferences than Northern daters.

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  41. “if you toned down your acerbic invective”

    Ha!

    If any age cried out for a Mencken, we’re in it.

    Tone it down?

    Turn it up!

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  42. So, Roissy, was I right in that the ADL threatened to blacklist you as a white ring anti-semitic if you didn’t take that post down? There is nothing that the “chosen people” hate than criticism, even if mild and substantiated.

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  43. Wow the filter for comments on this website even tag you for moderation when you use terms like “ADL” or “Chosen People”. Maybe if I were to use the “Joos’s” it will tag it. Let’s see.

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  44. Nope use “Joos’s” and your post will go through fine. Now they will track my IP using national security letters and warrants issued without probable cause to find out who I am.

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  45. Why not just delete and close the comments on the anti-semitism post and leave the post itself?

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  46. Actually I believe N. World does point that a “real” woman isn’t capable of competing with a porn star in terms of looks and sexual aggressiveness. Presumably it the old “ignorance is bliss” line – guys in the olden days would never had known what a hot woman really looked like and thus would have to presume the ho-hum bland average woman he’s married to looks more-or-less the same.

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  47. @Helene Edwards – re: No, what Dworkin was “most famous” for was proclaiming that “all sex is rape.” She basically had no fame that did not derive from that statement.

    Please read what’s on this Snopes page:
    http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp

    Dworkin never wrote it or said it. Sorry to bust an internet myth that just won’t die because the pornographers and their apologists need it so very much to discredit feminists.

    @the blogger –
    Re: alpha males and sex:

    See this for evidence to the contrary:
    http://www.amazon.com/Hite-Report-National-Female-Sexuality/dp/1583225692

    Does it matter to you that Western civilisation is founded on rape, slavery, and genocide, and continues to indulge in each to this very day? Or is that a trivial detail that would best be ignored?

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  48. Just fyi, the guy in that video is very hot – top 1% easy.

    But the ugly line was hilarious too. It’s so blatant, she knows it’s a joke, but it still piques her interest.

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  49. I don’t think “inured” in the lead article is the right word. If porn caused men to get inured to sex with their wives, that would mean used to something otherwise unpleasant, and that would be good.

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  50. Reason number 99 for men to leave Canada: a show on pick-up techniques is banned by the government because of feminist complaints.

    How much longer before the last real male gives Canada the finger from a rising airplane?

    Back in the USA its not much better as CNN’s headline news is now blaring away with radical feminist talk of a “War on Women”:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/17/california.actor.stabbing/index.html

    As a psycho Hollywood actor is sentenced to life for a cowardly crime, the feminist CNN moderator and Gloria Alred seriously imply that any men’s rights movement would agree with his actions because they are all part of a “War on Women”.

    CNN producers actually show a graphic saying “War on Women”, exactly similar to the graphics used after 9-11 that said “War on America” etc.

    Isn’t CNN a public company (Turner)?

    When are we guys going to wake up and understand what’s going on here?

    They didn’t even give us guys much of a Christmas truce.

    I didn’t read the comments to that deleted post but I can imagine (bet the farm) that the bad faith participants were the usual suspects who think of themselves as regulars because the Chateau posts 4 times per year about the Mexican invasion, but they don’t give a damn about men’s rights or picking up younger hotter tighter women for themselves.

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  51. on December 27, 2010 at 6:25 am Blush Response

    Hmm, reading that article, it looks like Wolf’s views haven’t changed an awful lot since “The Beauty Myth”, which is disappointing.

    She still holds that ridiculous belief that sexuality is something learned rather than innate.

    Reading in her article, despite her attempts to spin it, she’s still talking about the frantic competition amongst young women to score the most Alpha male they possibly can. Alphas are noticing the desperation amongst the womenfolk, asking for more and getting it.

    Eric S Raymond put it best when he commented on Naomi’s essay back in 2003: “Sex with a real woman trumps porn, but porn trumps women who dangle sex in front of men and don’t deliver.”

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  52. The major lesson to learn from this thread is that young woman’s comment “I need balls and clearly you have them”.

    If you can distill game into one sentence it would be “show women you have balls”.

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  53. Video:

    The lesson is, be devastatingly handsome and have brass balls, and you can get away with anything.

    I’m not devastatingly handsome, though not ugly. And I have balls. Or, at least, I don’t care about shame or being embarrassed.

    In the late summer, when it was still warm enough and I was tipsy, I tried the direct approach and hit up w few women at a meet and greet for the biz. As the night wore on, I cold-approached 6 pretty hot women; asked if they’d go home with me.

    This isn’t what this video guy did, but face it – it’s basically what this guy did. With another woman pulling him back, no less. Which helped him immensely.

    The difference: Had I been devastatingly handsome, I’d likely have had success of a sort with *all* of the targets. Including one who flashed a wedding ring at me.

    On the other hand, scoring one out of six was a good record, but by that time, it was late and the open bar had been well-attended.

    What then took some work was to keep sleeping with said woman for months. And keeping her genuinely off-balance. And not asking for anything else in return. Game helps with that – relationship framing and maintenance.

    You can game up and pull shit off, but unless you’re packaged with the goods like this guy, there’s just an upper limit you’re going to hit when you hit up girls, regardless.

    You know what women say.

    Just be yourself.

    And also be tall and handsome.

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  54. Two Christmas films are out that serve the older women market with fantasies about finding a great looking alpha for Christmas:

    A Golden Christmas: 9 year old girl and boy romance in the woods and then lose contact. 33 years go by. The woman, returns from the big city as a high powered lawyer with a kid (her husband had died). She wants to buy her parent’s house but they had just sold to a 42 year old man. She connives to stop that sale by trying to ruin his finances. He thinks she’s a bitch. But then she learns that he’s the boy from 33 years ago in the woods. So she starts playing nice. They get together and live happily ever after.

    Almost every pair in this film is the same age, but I’ll still give it a thumbs up because of one scene where another Alpha her age shows up at her parent’s Christmas party with a young Russian bride and the female lead looks at her sister like “yes, the reality is that this is our competition”.

    Another scene shows her looking at lonely old women sitting on benches and realizing that this could be her if she continues to be a bitch. The actress wasn’t bad looking either as she was not one of those has-been major Hollywood stars from the 90s who’ve seriously lost their looks already.

    A Nanny for Christmas: In this film a 33 year old woman, also played by an actress who isn’t hard on the eyes, who’s been working hard on her advertising career for 10 years since college loses her job through no fault of her own and finds herself working as a nanny for the female president of a competing ad agency. She meets an ad exec her age who is great looking (and would be dating women 10-15 years younger in real life). Here’s where the feminism kicks in: she feels she has to lie to him about also being an ad exec because she feels a man won’t be interested in her if she’s just a nanny.

    This premise didn’t work for me (and I know a guy like that would not be dating his own age).

    But it was still an entertaining 90 minutes if you can see this for free.

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  55. Regarding the news of the death of a music legend, the photos here also show how unfair it is (to everyone) that a woman can lose her looks so quickly over a short 25 years:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1341837/Teena-Marie-Motowns-Ivory-Queen-Soul-dies-aged-54.html

    One day you can be marrying an 8 and a few years later she’s a 3 but she’s your best friend and the system has you.

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  56. on December 27, 2010 at 7:51 am Dwtryin2getpaid

    About the Mangan’s Intelligence,

    Over the summer I worked in a law firm in a small town where the college had let out so there was no one around. I gained about 15 lbs and was rarely ever horny because there were almost no females around. On an interesting note I was working out 4-5 days a week for 2-3 hours at a time.

    Fast forward two months. I moved to Tokyo for a semester and kept on working out. Everywhere in Tokyo there were very fashionable Japanese girls wearing short skirts and high heels. I was constantly horny. Walking down the street, going to school, at the grocery store, at night clubs, everywhere there were hot girls.

    I was also working out during this period; however, I was working out less. Instead of 4-5 days for 2-3 hours I was only working out 3 days for 1.5-2 hours. Over 4 months (about 1.5x the length of my summer job) I lost 20 lbs.

    I also felt healthier and more alive than I ever have save a week in the Dominican Republic where I stayed at an all inclusive hotel and hooked up with a new girl (or two or three) every night.

    While my experiences do not prove the theory outright, I can say that the more horny I am the better my life is.

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  57. People perhaps forget the fact that Europeans who migrated to the US are outsiders, the only difference is they went some hundred or two hundred years ago. How can they claim that people from Latin America, Africa or Asia are outsiders if they are going now to stay in the USA. USA is not the land for whites only, anyone can come and live..double standard for Asians.

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  58. Fuck, you’re retarded.

    You write well and occasionally hit the nail on the head, but for the most part, sadly, you *think* you know when in fact, you’re only guessing.

    As for this post, two things.

    One, women prefer alphas…. Did you read the article you linked to? The entire article never mentioned a damn thing about alpha, but did repeatedly state “attractive men”. Attractive. As in, good-looking.

    Two, the VIP video…. I’ve watched nearly every episode of that show and very few of those guys had any real ‘game’. A large number, in fact, were pretty fucking lame and yet still managed to pick up smoking hot girls. Of course, to you, it’s just a coincidence that these guys were all quite good-looking, isn’t it? This guy is very good-looking and he had her before he ever spoke. He would have to fuck up LARGE to lose her. The insult was most likely taken as a joke and not much more since it was in response to “you’ve got balls” and she knows she is certainly not the ugliest in the club. (By the way, this wasn’t a ‘neg’. You should perhaps review the glossary.)
    Was it possible for him to fuck it up despite his good looks? Sure. If he had been started talking about bird-watching and how it was his life’s passion. Short of that though, he had her.

    An average-looking guy or ever slightly above average would not have gotten anywhere with her, period. He would have to pull out game like I’ve never seen. In the show, I have NEVER seen an average guy pull a stunner. And the ugly guys (there’ve only been a handful on the show) get laughed at. They can’t catch a break no matter how good or bad their game was because when the girl decided not to respect you before him before he opens his mouth, he’s got nowhere to go.

    Even Mystery’s show proved that the better looking guys consistently did better than the others. Before the makeovers you couldn’t tell, but afterward, there were a couple of diamonds in the rough. All they needed to do was stop looking like King Geek and the only ‘game’ they really learned was how NOT to fuck up badly. Bingo.

    If you’re average-looking are confident in yourself and have a semi-interesting personality (which is all ‘game’ really is, after all), you’ll do better, yes, but you’ll never consistently land 8s and 9s. You might get lucky occasionally here and there, but it won’t be consistent.

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  59. I liked the Naomi Wolf article. I wonder if you did also. I do remember one time you writing something about keeping the male population sedated with porn and video games. (I can’t recall your exact words, but I think that was the general idea)

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  60. How can they claim that people from Latin America, Africa or Asia are outsiders

    In the long run, people will welome outsiders, even culturally alien ones, if they bring something to the table. Namely, women whose average attactiveness is on par with or better than native-stock females’.

    That’s why Italians, Irish, and Slavs assimilated. Their daughters equaled of bettered native Anglo daughters’ beauty and amicable intermarriage was possible.

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  61. In the long run, people will welcome outsiders, even culturally alien ones, if they bring something to the table. Namely, women

    Bingo.

    No red-blooded American man would be protesting the Mexican invasion if the quotient of hot intelligent women was increasing in Texas, Arizona or Southern Cal as a result.

    But I didn’t see that happening when I was in that area, the film “Machete” notwithstanding. Its like the Spanish speaking hotties decided to find rich guys in Mexico City to hook up with while their parents and brothers headed for the border.

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  62. It can benefit the women also. I usually find men that have slightly different backgrounds from myself more attractive than I do ones that grew up exactly like me.

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  63. It’s a shame that The World’s Greatest Blog took down the Anti-Semitism post, which I found insightful and brave, even though I (like many readers) found plenty to disagree with therein.

    Sadly, this merely confirms that no one, even anonymously, can have a real discussion of Jewish power in this country.

    I’m not a Jew, but have them in my family and among my closest friends, and treasure the good ones – there are many, and I am happy and proud to have them on “our” side – while remaining willing to say the truth, i.e. that they are our implacable enemies, about the rest.

    Damn shame your effort to render a complex truth caused insanity on all sides …

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  64. Not five minutes ago, I experienced the power of Alpha. While walking outside our generic class A office building to grab a smoke, I passed a very attractive colleague who was walking into the building. I was walking slowly, confidently, and completely ignored the woman. Very alpha and I knew it. I walked past her and a second later I hear this:

    “Do you like it up there?” Referring to our new digs where we have just moved to.

    I turned to face her. Brief small talk ensues about our new office location.

    I wasn’t running Game, just walking in a confident manner and by not acknowledging her and her obvious attractiveness I instantly planted the seed of self doubt in her mind.

    Interestingly, I am a 48 year old white guy. She is a 30 something black woman.

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  65. Re. height and game

    Only the strongest of game can compensate for being below average in height. In the market, 28 BMI female. Even bald guys do better.

    Re. comment trolling in good posts
    Leave the post, nuke the comments. Did you get a threatening letter from the ADL?

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  66. Here is the short version of the Naomi Wolf article:

    “Waaa waaa waaa, I’m fat and want men to pay attention to me!”

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  67. What people are saying about this Keys to the VIP show about the importance of “attractiveness” is somewhat of a stumbling block for me. I can make myself look sharp, I can peacock big-time, but I don’t have thousands of dollars lying around to fix my billy-bob snaggled teeth. The instant I smile, I know for a fact that the unspoken reaction of the women is ” you look like you were chewing on bowling balls”. Everything is great up to the point that I give a big smile…that is the big snag and gap, literally, that fucks up any amount of game I attempt. It would cost so much money to get the Hollywood smile that would instantly elevate me about two leagues up at least.

    My hair has receded quite a bit, but I could still work with it. If I had fuller hair like I had when I was in my 20s, that would add another league up. But that would mean surgery, and that means thousands more.

    I have a slender-average build. I can get a semi-decent muscular ripped look, but only up to a point until I hit a resistance that would require becoming a gym-bunny to overcome. I don’t have the kind of time nor the motivation necessary to spend my life at the gym and walk out with a “6-pack” Hulk-build ideal.

    Now, I can get away with the other physical issues and still do pretty well, but my teeth are my body’s pick up enemy number 1. There is no getting around my fucked-up teeth, and I know it. All the game in the world and all the balls in the world can’t get me a way around my teeth, because the moment I smile, it becomes an instant demonstration of disqualifying low value in the eyes of women.

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  68. Is Naomi Wolf fat now? I thought she was the best looking of the feminist world and someone I wouldn’t kick out of bed for eating crackers. I haven’t seen her on video in about six months I guess.

    She’s also mostly on the side of men, siding with the fembots only long enough to burnish her credentials with them so she can come down hard on them again.

    Example: She was the first main public figure to ridicule the fake rape accusers of Assange and that probably helped more than the Chateau to get Glen Beck of Fox News to ridicule them himself (note that John McCain’s daughter blogged against the fake rape accusers on the 16th of December and referenced the “denizens of the Chateau” with a link here in making her case).

    When Naomi wrote “Fire with Fire” she was slamming “Victim Feminism” and earned serious respect with a very nascent men’s rights movement back in the late 90s.

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  69. @ Mencken
    Unfortunately, it seems any discussion of Jews these days causes insanity ON ALL SIDES. Trying to be objective and truthful takes a back seat to a primary concern for scoring points pro- and anti-. This is one of the biggest things that has irked me about politics in general—all propaganda with no one really interested in finding and grasping the truth. As soon as political types see something that doesn’t quite fit conveniently into our program, they reject it and try to seal that door shut.

    We need honest truth-seeking quality leaders, who fear no facts and who verify the facts that they have, who learn truth from friends and foes and everything in between. We need leaders who aren’t drinking koolaid, then pissing in the bowl and mixing in a few more pounds of sugar before passing it out to the rest if us. Can you fathom how rare it is to find leaders like that these days?

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  70. @alex

    sucks about the teeth. if they’re really really bad (as in, not merely looking bad but causing you real problems), your dental insurance may cover part of the cost for orthodontics.

    otherwise, you may need to adjust your targeting system and focus more of your efforts on women from cultures that don’t place as much of an emphasis on having perfect teeth (british, japanese, etc.)

    i used to hate my parents for putting me through the embarrassment of wearing braces when i was young…

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  71. All the game in the world and all the balls in the world can’t get me a way around my teeth

    Google Alex Ovechkin to see what an alpha with fucked up teeth looks like. It’s the devilish twinkle in your eye that matters, not the goody-goody straight teeth.

    She’s [Naomi Wolff] also mostly on the side of men

    Feminsts come in two kinds: the lesbians and the hypergamists. Lesbians are really the heart and soul of feminism. At their very core, they just want to be left alone by men, and understandably so, given their repulsion to the male anatomy. Andrea Dworkin is an example of this wing of feminism.

    They become malign at the point when they seek to recruit straight young women into their fold (heh), usually by propagandizing myths of rape and domestic violence.

    The other wing of feminism, hypergamists, are what Naomi Wolff represents. They are straight women whose affiliation with feminism is mostly opportunistic. They free-ride on the movement and appropriate some of its anti-male tenets to secure independence from average men, freeing average women to reach for the alphas.

    This makes them seem like they are more “pro-men” but they are really just pro-elite-men. They hate hate hate all men but the top 5% most attractive ones.

    Camille Paglia is an interesting hybrid of the two. She is a lesbian but she loves loves loves the alpha male. Her working-class Italian roots, which she didn’t reject as many upwardly-mobile ethnic whites do, also make her sympathetic to traditional culture and gender roles.

    She was the first main public figure to ridicule the fake rape accusers of Assange

    On the other hand, she made a vicious public statement against her former mentor Harold Bloom, alleging a groping attack at a party some twenty years earlier.

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  72. she made a vicious public statement against her former mentor Harold Bloom

    “She” being Naomi Wolff, not Camille Paglia (Bloom was a mentor to both)

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  73. @Alex

    Buzz cut that hair so it doesn’t look receded. The best dentists in the world are in EE and at a quarter of the price of the bad dentists in the US. You’ll also get the highest concentration of white women. What are you waiting for? Where there’s a will there’s a way. It’s true that what women really like most is balls.

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  74. @pa

    yes but alex ovechkin is a pro athlete. hockey, no less, where his fucked up teeth actually adds to his alphaness.

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  75. I have a feeling if it had been Alex Ovechkin that had inappropriately groped Naomi Wolf it may not have been a problem.

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  76. Just cough up for braces. A year’s worth in bar tabs could pay off in spades, and may help professionally as well.

    As far as Ovechkin goes, guys like that live in a different world. See Ric Ocasek.

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  77. My teeth are clean and white, but imperfect. I am not a professional athlete. I swooped much poon.

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  78. If a guy has the glorious irrational self-confidence, but has a land whale pig face of a “girl”, what is he?

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  79. I agree with several of the comments. Don’t delete anything. You’re our generation’s Mencken.
    also:Write a fucking book for shits sake.

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  80. on December 27, 2010 at 11:39 am Just A Horny Dude

    I must be a real Alpha — my lady comes every time, just from the glorious feeling of my dick in her pussy. No desperate clit rubbing needed to get her off. Yowza!

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  81. a beta. an alpha simply wouldn’t have a land whale pig face of a girl.

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  82. @pa

    ‘imperfect’ is still a number of degrees better than ‘bowling ball wreckage’. but i understand your point that alex just needs to work that much harder to overcome it.

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  83. For any of you guys that are losing hair in the back but still have at least peach fuzz and you don’t want to shave your head, buzz cut, or get a transplant, try Toppik. Works like a charm, is cheaper in the short-run than a transplant, and they will honor the guarantee if you decide to return it if it doesn’t work for you.

    Only three chicks have figured out I use it, and it took one a year-and-a-half. The other two kept seeing me, anyway.

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  84. “It’s been asked why every man isn’t tall if women have such a strong preference for tall men. I propose that there is a check on runaway sexual selection for male height — namely, clumsiness.”

    Well, that’s a cute little guess, and wow, you have a video of guys dancing to back it up. I’m astounded by your intellectual rigor!

    If you want the actual answer, start with Francis Galton and the concept of reversion to the mean. You’d like him. He was all about eugenics.

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  85. Why delete the so-called “anti-semitism” post? I guess what hurts–yes,hurts!-is you crapping on all your devoted readers,and saying you deleted it cause we’re such dumbassess. Bring back the post. Lets talk about it! Read isteves latest about the immigration holocaust: Like Anita said about Puerto Rico: “Always the population growing(si Anita!) and the money owing…”

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  86. In the interest of full disclosure, I should add to my previous comment about Toppik that the third chick who found out I used it – the one who didn’t figure it out until a year-and-a-half – almost immediately pressured me for a commitment, didn’t want to go to swingers clubs anymore, and moved 1,000 miles away within a few weeks.

    But, it was a good run. A VERY good run.

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  87. Just watched the pickup video and that’s pretty tight game.

    I will say he’s at the higher end male attractiveness, and while I think she liked him from the start, his tight game is the difference between getting a number and a 90% chance of a date, and same night lay.

    He’s the same height as the target, small challenge, but I can’t tell if she’s wearing heels or not. He’s not too short cause the girl that walks up to him, the ex-girlfriend, is way shorter meaning he’s at least 5-10 or so.

    He’s Italian, which some girls might not like, but she digs it. She calls him Rico Suave.

    Eye contact is huge. Can’t say it enough, especially when you’re talking, eye contact is huge.

    All in all, its a good video, even if it’s staged, or if nothing goes on later. It’s always good to see what success looks like.

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  88. zlzoozzlzl

    omg rossisiy this deserves a story/link/post of its wonw!!!

    http://www.freep.com/article/20101226/NEWS03/12260530/

    Leon Walker of Rochester Hills is charged with unlawfully reading his then-wife’s e-mail, which showed she was having an affair with her second husband, who once had been arrested for beating her in front of her son. Walker says he gave the e-mails to her first husband, the child’s father, to protect the boy. “I was doing what I had to do,” he said. (KIMBERLY P. MITCHELL/Detroit Free Press)

    http://www.freep.com/article/20101226/NEWS03/12260530/Is-reading-wife-s-e-mail-a-crime?-Rochester-Hills-man-faces-trial#ixzz19KkdNZtl

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  89. First:
    The links rock. The pr0n comment, Jesus. What do people expect? If someone wants to spank the monkey, that’s fine. If they can get off to digital pr0n and let out their frustrations that way, then they are less willing to do stupid shit. Is this uber-Alpha behavior? No. But it’ll lower the number of rapes and such.

    Second:
    a – I read about these Maxims on this site, where can I get a list of them all? Please throw me a link.

    b – This is going to be a thread-jack, because I’m not 100% sure how to proceed with this chick.

    Some background:
    All my life I’ve been the tech geek that did well in studies but was simply *awful* with the fairer sex. I was an uber-omega, the lowest of the low. I like to think of myself as a more senior beta at the moment. I’ve mad changes, but still have a ways to go.

    Changes I’ve made:
    * Started going to the gym.
    * Started being more indifferent to girls and more self-assured (irrationally so and sometimes rationally, I have a good job and make bank, this will only increase over the years.)
    * Started acting the part of the alpha. Still learning mind you.

    The problem/issue:
    Now, there’s this girl that I’ve recently dumped. She’s not the prettiest, but she’s hard working and has the personality of a woman that I’d like to the mother of my kids. I started out all alpha and being aloof, irrationally self-confident and indifferent to her petty little stupid things. However, I made a moronic mistake, I figured that I should be more sensitive over time and slid down beta abyss. Unfortunately, I haven’t fucked her yet…

    Unfortunately my beta descent began right before I had to not see her for like a month due to work + grad school (no, you don’t have a life at that point.) She was still ‘mine’, but was always ‘busy’. I didn’t give a shit why she was busy and how legitimate her reasons were, she wasn’t around me. I didn’t see the bright light at the end of that tunnel and put the kibosh on that relationship by saying that I would like to ‘pause’ our relationship because I’ve developed ‘other interests’, she said “Ok, I understand.” No smileys, nothing. Just that.

    The questions:
    1 – What did she mean by her answer? Is it her accepting that I broke up or is there something else to this that I’m not picking up? Am I over-analyzing this (I’m a comp sci guy, I have a bad habit of doing this)?

    2 – This girl is someone that I regard a hair above most poon based on her personality and how she acts. If possible (yes, if, if she’s gone, then I move on) I’d like to get her back. Any long-term suggestions on how to do this? One of the suggestions I’ve heard is GFTOW (Go Fuck Ten Other Women), something I intend to do. Furthermore improve my game and continue to kick ass at my career.

    I’m also gonna work up to a CBR1000RR, or a Hayabusa, the chicks dig them and I love them.

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  90. ugliest girl in the club…IIRC…he giggled or said it like a joke.

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  91. This is that episode of Keys to the VIP in it’s entirety.

    http://starcasm.net/archives/47108

    There has to be a catch, like the signs you see at NFL stadiums “your likeness maybe filmed, you consent to be filmed, your likeness is property of the NFL”.

    If I were a girl and I ended up on this show, I’d sue!

    Some more observations…the girls aren’t taking the lead, no matter how good looking the guy is, or how tight his game is. In both cases the guy led and then the girls got slutty, not the other way around.

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  92. @p00n

    in her eyes you’ve already devalued yourself, so doing anything further to try to get her back (especially since you were the one who initiated the break) will lower your value even more. even if she were to take you back, she will have all the hand.

    so consider her a write-off. you already know what you need to do (gftow and improve all aspects of your life), so don’t waste time and energy thinking about her last comment.

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  93. @itsme

    Thanks. Another question. What if she approaches me somehow? Try everything from start?

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  94. about motorcycles, they can add to your alphaness, but only if you know how to ride. liter bikes are a massive handful. the average rider will be faster and look better on something smaller. 600’s are fine but i’ve always found 750’s to strike a perfect balance between 600’s and liters.

    i can’t recall the number of times girls have told me ‘oh, motorcycles are dangerous!’ but then they hop on and press their titties into my back anyway. just more evidence that you shouldn’t pay too much attention to what they say.

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  95. Alex,

    Seriously, dude, make it your number 1 priority to get those teeth fixed, it is an extremely good investment. Either go to a country where you can afford it (the EE suggestion is good because the girls there are superior) or borrow the money somehow. If you don’t have insurance that will cover it, shop around a bit to find an orthodontist who will give you the “covered” rate.

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  96. itsme,

    If I were single and wanted to increase my attractiveness and ability to score, getting a motorcycle and learning to ride it would be my first investment. If you can get a girl to take a ride on your motorcycle you are 3/4 of the way there. In the old days giving them a ride on your horse worked the same way, its why “cavaliers” scored so well. It is like kino to the 10th power, because she wraps her arms around your waist, presses her chest into your back, and gets all the right places vibrating, and you are busy driving and not paying attention to her or actively touching her which sets the frame of her chasing you rather than the reverse.

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  97. Height definitely brings with it a fitness cost. Height increases size which means a need for more food. Starvation used to kill many humans in the ancient world. Also, extreme height increases knee problems and also increased risk for heart disease. All sorts of traits have negative counterbalancing forces at the tail ends of the bell curve.

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  98. Oakland County Prosecutor Jessica Cooper defended her decision to charge Leon Walker.

    In elections, we men allow such women to take over key positions of power.

    Its our own fault.

    Until there is at least a National Organization for Men, this kind of nonsense will continue.

    But the jury will likely let him go, seeing that 76% of readers say it should remain legal for spouses to check each other’s email.

    That being said, no man should allow his significant other to touch his cell phone and a computer should be compartmented with a password for the male and no password for the female.

    If she doesn’t accept those lopsided conditions, dump her.

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  99. @Jerry

    What political organization (a serious one) out there supports the interests of men when it comes to getting rid of the femnazis and their BS?

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  100. @Driftwood

    I’ve heard that the tallest Wehrmacht soldiers didn’t survive the last Eastern Front winters or captivity on average because, as they thinned from starvation, there was more surface area exposed to the cold. That may not be true in general but it is part of the Stalingrad mythology in any case.

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  101. @p00n

    Only one I know of. It’s called Fathers & Families at http://www.fathersandfamilies.org.

    It is run by Glenn Sacks who is doing a bang up job fighting mainly the Divorce 2.0 industry.

    He had low hanging fruit to deal with at first, such as policies in some states like California allowing the kids of combat soldiers to be taken away because the father performed “violence” as an occupation. He got Arnold’s attention on that (Arnold has otherwise been a pushover to feminists since he ran for governor by calling Gray a “girly man”).

    F&F just got a vote in Ohio postponed raising child support by 27%.

    They are a good organization worth funding and keeping an eye on. Glenn Sacks is a good man.

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  102. on December 27, 2010 at 1:53 pm helene edwards

    @Julian:

    She did indeed say it. It was a staple of Dworkin/McKinnon discussion circa 1988. What you are reading now on the internet, is her attempt, with the help of people who at that time were not yet born or not of age, to resurrect her relevance for a new age by being less strident. In other words, it’s just facile revisionism. It’s not your fault, but you have to try to imagine the atmosphere of the 1980’s. This was the first period in history in which women could gin up a career simply by mouthing something controversial. We’re all used to it now, but it was new then, and nobody called you on your bullshit. Obviously, there will be people who will want to take back some things later, but that’s all it is.

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  103. At least have the balls to say that you deleted the “anti-Semitism” post because Foxman gave you a call, instead of pointing the finger at your readers, who, for the most part, seem to have their eye on the ball.

    If you want to know who is in power, just ask yourself one question: whom can’t I criticize?

    Roissy knows whom he can’t criticize. He had been skirting the “J*wish Question” up until a few days ago, and now he’ll skirt it again.

    Although I’m not so sure his momentary lapse of reason will be forgotten or forgiven by the people who are taught to “never forgive, never forget”.

    He may have to go vanity for his book.

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  104. Since we’re on the subject of divoce and coustdy: I’m coming to a conclusion that courts should heavily bias custody in favor of fathers.

    Men are beter able to separate their selfishness from their parental instinct. Ones who would make poor fathers generally don’t want the kid in the first place. But ones who want custody are 100% committed to these kids’ well-being. That’s why you can be sure that a man who wants custody is a good bet with regards to the child’s welfare.

    In contrast, a woman will have enough residual maternal instinct to *always* want her kids with her, regardless of her commitment to actually caring for them. Thus, you have the common scenario of single moms who let a series of boyfriends abuse the child, or immature girls who dump the kid off on someone else while they go off to party.

    Also, with rare exception of real and documented case of a father’s unfitness such as drug addiction or pattern of drinking with blackouts, NEVER give full custody to a woman who fights the father’s access to the children.

    Why? because a good mother understands that a child needs a father, even if she personally happens to hate the man’s guts. A woman who cuts off her child from his father is by definition an unfit mother.

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  105. The guy in the pick-up video was hot. But that wasn’t the only reason he got her. It was confidence and looks.

    [Editor: What is with you people thinking that guy is hot? I don’t see it. When I imagine what a good-looking guy looks likes (no homo) I think George Clooney or Christian Bale. The guy in the vid was not even close to that.]

    As far as the dancers, I would say that although the Bassist is the better dancer, perhaps due to his shorter stature, the tallest one, the guy wearing the blue shirt and full head of hair in the second video, would still be my pick.

    [Yeah, but a lot of women go for men with smooth moves, which might partly explain why shortness has stuck around — shorter dudes may be naturally more rythmic, owing to their lower center of gravity.]

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  106. @pa

    agreed. it’s especially important because fathers are the authority figures in the family unit. without the presence of an authority figure, well, we can guess what happens with the children…

    @roissy

    tragically, lots of women go for the guido type. maybe you don’t have a lot of guidos where you are, but i’m in new york and there’s plenty of evidence.

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  107. I’m inclined to believe it’s set up anyway. Not because of this one episode because I’ve seen/been part of weirder things myself. But after seeing most episodes, you see this a lot in that show where the girls are just a bit ‘too’ easy to PU, even if the guy is good looking.

    Just for argument’s sake though, even if we assume it is all real…

    Looks is what got her attention (positive attention). If a woman finds you very attractive, you have to work at fucking it up. Yes, it’s possible, but you have to actually bring negatives to the table. This guy had confidence, which is itself attractive, sure, but that was not game. The insult was a joke, or at least taken as one. I guaran-fuckin-tee you that if an average dude had said that to her, she’d have thrown her drink at him.

    That was NOT game. I feel a little sorry for those of you here who thought it was. LOL

    What is wrong with you people?

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  108. On an unrelated note, I deleted a recent post because so few commenters seemed to have the requisite grown-up reading comprehension and emotional stability to digest it. The comments were 5% insightful, 45% trollish, and 50% incredibly stupid arguments made in bad faith from both sides. That’s a Chateau record bad noise to signal ratio. It made my eyes hurt, so it gave me supreme pleasure to trash it.

    Lol. Pussy. Don’t act like sweeping the mess under the rug isn’t embarrassing, because you know it is.

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  109. About the deleted post: Remember, most readers never comment. So don’t get too upset about what the vocal minority is saying. (This goes double for any political subject.)

    Yeah, I love the “no one was learning anything” excuse (not that it came from the admin); as if the admin knows WTF anyone learned from reading that thread.

    Newsflash: as you say, most people don’t comment, they read.

    I’ve never persuaded a single Ashkenazi-worshipper in my life, as far as I know, but I’ve persuaded many “fence-sitters.”

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  110. I sort of agree with @nienna. That guy was pretty good looking.

    It seems like PUAs have shifted so far into alpha-dom, that these guys are thinking like women and only see a small number of guys as salvageable, suggesting their workshops are designed to transition chronically underperforming lesser alphas like Matt Damon up to Leo DiCaprio’s standard.

    There is less risk to this strategy. This is sort of like a high school or college that brags about the quality of it’s graduates when it only admitted the cream of the crop in the first place.

    The girl Fromeo pulled is a top shelf notch, and I don’t want to take anything away from that. Most importantly he wasn’t as good looking as the guy he competed with, but he did better than him, a testament to the power of game.

    That said, both guys were good looking, and most of the PUA on the panel were extremely good looking.

    We need to establish a bare minimum looks standard needed to pull a girl like Adrianna.

    How far can game take a guy like Newman from Seinfeld?

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  111. on December 27, 2010 at 2:59 pm Hungry Hungry Hippos

    Lolz, I was always under the impression Chateau was a Jewish Uncle Goldstein.

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  112. @PA
    How can they claim that people from Latin America, Africa or Asia are outsiders
    In the long run, people will welome outsiders, even culturally alien ones, if they bring something to the table. Namely, women whose average attactiveness is on par with or better than native-stock females’.
    That’s why Italians, Irish, and Slavs assimilated. Their daughters equaled of bettered native Anglo daughters’ beauty and amicable intermarriage was possible.

    @PA,

    I like this theory. Anyway, it works for me. If outsiders bring in hot women and they’re not exclusively available for them only, and their culture is amenable to “cultural interchange”, then I say – sure. Bring them on. That’s a HUGE benefit for men.

    Maybe this explains why Asians are welcomed more easily than some? And why white /black women hate Asian women so much (especially blacks)?

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  113. @CR,

    [Yeah, but a lot of women go for men with smooth moves, which might partly explain why shortness has stuck around — shorter dudes may be naturally more rythmic, owing to their lower center of gravity.]

    Sorry, CR, this sounds like an evolutionary “Just So” story.

    I suspect the shortness sticks around because:

    – shortness is not solely sex-linked (or directly sex-linked at all).
    – The genes that make you short also do other things / the genes that make you tall also have other effects.
    – The natural variability isn’t always selected against
    – A short time ago, we were split up into disparate groups. Between those groups, there were variances in height, and hence there was some sexual selection going on in each group. But the nature of that selection was likely different. This accounts for the variance in height between groups (Dutch, Swedes vs. Sicilians and Pygmies).
    – Short males are able to compensate for their shortness
    – There are strategies for short males to acquire mating opportunities
    – ALSO: females aren’t universally desirable – ie, there are uglier and more ornery women around that taller males will ignore, because it’s hard to have more than 1-2 mates in a palaeolithic / H&G society
    – Don’t forget alliances. The short male may be able to forge alliances and acquire access to females in this manner.

    Politics has to come into it hugely. Short guys are always teaming up on the big guy. The big guy often has to stand alone – and gets singled out.

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  114. Nobody has mentioned the Jane Austen parody. It was pretty funny- probably better than the zombie book parody of Pride and Prejudice, which is actually going to be made into a major motion picture.

    I think those PUA shows are staged, like most reality TV. Doesn’t mean they can’t illustrate basic principles, but they’re basically fake, staged to entertain not educate. (Else you’d see a lot more blowouts and failures.)

    There’s something to that hormesis argument, but I think the comparisons to organism functioning are a little facile and probably false- more like the lifecycle of societies, rise and fall of civilizations- think Toynbee, Paul Kennedy, fall of Rome, etc. It isn’t the absence of stress per se in rich societies- they have many stresses of their own that are different from those of traditional societies- but their lack of upward drive and animal conquering spirits, lack of material challenges, their smugness, guilt, and self-absorption. Sort of the downslope, the decadent phase of the lifecycle of civilizations. History doesn’t exactly repeat itself, but it kind of rhymes. This is no news to regular readers obviously- only was commenting that the bodliy-function analogy seemed a bit off.

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  115. @Julian Real,

    See this for evidence to the contrary:
    http://www.amazon.com/Hite-Report-National-Female-Sexuality/dp/1583225692

    Does it matter to you that Western civilisation is founded on rape, slavery, and genocide, and continues to indulge in each to this very day? Or is that a trivial detail that would best be ignored?

    In what way is Western civilization at all different from any other civilization – or society, for that matter – except i the measure of its success?

    Those things you mention – dude, it’s others that are practicing slavery and genocide. And rape – well, there are many ways to peel an orange. Sometimes the oranges learn how to peel the apples, too.

    I think the oranges led a revolt and are making apple sauce. Which you might not have noticed yet. But I smell it a-baking.

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  116. It looks like Nick Davies of the British Guardian “turned on Assange” because it was “is unheard of for a defendant, his legal team and supporters to so vehemently and publicly attack women at the heart of a rape case.”

    http://www.aolnews.com/2010/12/21/julian-assange-i-am-not-promiscuous-just-really-like-women/

    Anyone know more about this mangina?

    The Guardian is admitting it deliberately did a hatchet piece on him after they were the beneficiary of his scoops.

    In other words, someone put pressure on the Guardian editorial team to put feminism over the exposure of corruption in banks, etc, that Wikileaks was about to give them. Feminism apparently mattered to somewhat at the top that much.

    Wikileaks will probably no longer trust the Guardian to have a scoop on anything going forward.

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  117. @Gorbachev
    “Maybe this explains why Asians are welcomed more easily than some? And why white /black women hate Asian women so much (especially blacks)?”

    I would disagree. I get majority dirty looks from white and my own Asian women. How sad. Can’t we all just accept each other and embrace each other’s differences. boo.

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  118. @helene edwards

    @Julian:

    She did indeed say it. It was a staple of Dworkin/McKinnon discussion circa 1988. What you are reading now on the internet, is her attempt, with the help of people who at that time were not yet born or not of age, to resurrect her relevance for a new age by being less strident. In other words, it’s just facile revisionism. It’s not your fault, but you have to try to imagine the atmosphere of the 1980′s. This was the first period in history in which women could gin up a career simply by mouthing something controversial. We’re all used to it now, but it was new then, and nobody called you on your bullshit. Obviously, there will be people who will want to take back some things later, but that’s all it is.

    Helene Edwards is correct. I was in college at the end of the 80’s/ 90’s, and this debate was still going on: I even took Womens’ Studies courses as electives (Yes, I was a complete Mangina).I believe what she said was:

    “In this context, of patriarchy, in a patriarchal society where violence against women is normalized and acceptable, all penetration is basically rape.”

    There was some pretty extreme rhetoric going on at the time, and Feminists started to lose women at this point.

    In my classes, there was a sharp division: the hard-core Lesbians who were very pro-sex, pro-porn; and the anti-porn Rape Obsessives who were straight but who played at being Lesbians as if they actually wanted pussy, which they didn’t, and which pissed off the Lesbians to no end.

    The lesbians were all more charming, generally smarter and less obnoxious than the straight nutcases.

    It was clear that the straight feminists were after naked power in their relationships with men. Power was their issue.

    Actual equality was *NEVER* a goal.

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  119. One big advantage of single fathers over single mothers is that a father’s new wife or girlfriend is not going to pose any type of threat to his children and very likely will be a help in raising them. I don’t think I would have much trouble bonding with someone else’s kids provided they were nice kids who treated me well.

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  120. @ lawyerjourno
    ” People perhaps forget the fact that Europeans who migrated to the US are outsiders, the only difference is they went some hundred or two hundred years ago. How can they claim that people from Latin America, Africa or Asia are outsiders if they are going now to stay in the USA. USA is not the land for whites only, anyone can come and live..double standard for Asians. ”

    1. people who migrated here from europe are the original americans, that is the old Indians are not here no more, there place is taken over by euros in the last 500 years not 200 years. The fact that USA is primarily euro in origin is signified by the fact that everything in USA civilization wise (language, laws, people etc etc) is european in origin which means Euro america is the original america. They got here first, tamed the land and posted their flag, therefore it is in fact “theirs”. That’s mankind’s rule of conduct since caveman times.

    2. land where everyone comes and goes is Santa claus land, no real nation can be come and go nation. If USA is to be a come and go nation, then there must be some moral, and practical advantage to that. Then why doesn’t india china etc etc take in millions of africans on come and go basis. If there is a come and go nation established somewhere it obviously will be to the detriment of the actual inhabittant of that place because their land and their people do not carry any significance at all and therefore will perish.

    3. Using your logic i can say that most nations on earth should not object to open borders, because their history is similar to US history and therefore they have no right to say who and what is theirs. e.g. The Japanese took over the the japanese islands from the native Ainu and pretty much brutally exterminated them almost to te last man, therefore, who are the japanese to say who is real japanese or not, hell japanese themselves are chinese descendants living on foreign land after brutally exterminating the actual japanese people. Same is true of almost all nations.

    4. A. including Latin america is telling, latin america is itself just like usa in it’s conception, except poor and spanish and with majority indian blood. Therefore, why arent the same standards used for latin america that you are using for USA, why shouldn’t Latin America be a come and go nation. B. and what right do latin aemricans have to come to USA, if they are already in the americas.

    5. Relatively speaking yes their is a double standard towards asians and also africans, euros, middle eastern immigrants since, we have the southern border open where annually a million enter illegally from latin aemrica, while the smart faction of the rest of the world who could be here are not coming in the same numbers as the rejects of an underdeveloped nation like Mexico. But OTOH there is no double standard towards asians in the absolute sense since the owner of the property lays the law of entering the property and outsiders have to follow. Yet i still see man many people everyday who are living on expired student visa, or extending their stay becuz evetually that way they will get a green card. Although I am all for more Bengalis.

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  121. @julian real
    ” Does it matter to you that Western civilisation is founded on rape, slavery, and genocide, and continues to indulge in each to this very day? Or is that a trivial detail that would best be ignored? ”

    It’s all true unlike all other civilizations western civilizations ia built on all that nasty shit………The fact that people like you think like this while being part of western civilization shows that western civilization is exactly the opposite of what u say, and infact is full of manginas. In a way Western civ could be the worst civ, becuz it tolerates people like you, it has no self defense mechanism, and has willed itself to death, and has no back bone compass.

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  122. Another reason short guys haven’t disappeared – men are much less discriminating about the height of their partners than vice-versa. Uncommon is the man who will turn down a fling with a smoking hot woman who happens to be five foot two.

    My dad was a 3-sport college athlete, 6 foot 2 and well built, and my mom a very petite and attractive 5 foot 1 italian chick; though both my brother and my sister are a bit above average in height, I wound up 5’8”.

    It’s impossible tough to keep short women out of the breeding pool.

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  123. From the “sexual marketplace” link:

    “So, yes, the stereotypes appear to be true: We males are a gender of fragile egos in search of a pretty face and are threatened by brains or success that exceeds our own. Women, on the other hand, care more about how men think and perform, and they don’t mind being outdone on those scores.”

    Did you actually read this sh*t? Sounds like a typical self-flagellating academic mangina.

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  124. For those who consider being aloof to be the central core of attraction, explain to me how the PUA in the linked video was acting aloof?

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  125. […] auspicious doom of the short man Something Chateau wrote yesterday caught my eye. Or my attention. Anything that deals with the subject of height often […]

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  126. on December 28, 2010 at 3:37 am The Real Vince

    Today height is largely determined by genetics, but it’s a mistake to assume this was always the case. Historically nutrition played a more critical role — i.e., nurture trumped nature. However, once EVERYONE in a given group received a steady diet, then genes began to take over.

    Matt Ridley may have discussed a similar phenomenon with astigmatism in his book NATURE VIA NURTURE. It used to be people got an astigmatism from reading, but once we democratized literacy, genes are held more accountable. (Scoring a political point here: this is why egalitarians can lay a more credible claim on meritocracy; if environmental conditions are largely the same, then the best are, generally speaking, the best).

    There’s also the already mentioned-fact that men do not have as strict a height preference as women. Most 5-10+ women do not resemble Elle Macpherson, yet still prefer to date taller males, so it’s not uncommon for them to complain about petite girls with strict six foot height requirements. That said, I recently read (can’t remember where) that the height differences between partners is shrinking, but make no mistake, it’s much better to be 5’11”, fat and bald than 5’3″ super-fit with a well-defined jawline. Men that short would need to compensate by becoming a brutal despot.

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  127. Revolutionary, you are full of shit.

    In hand to hand combat, height is an advantage, everything else being equal.

    Even greater strength, skill and agility than the opponent must be significant to overcome the height disadvantage.

    Also why don’t you try and pick any random heavy weight champion in any worthwhile martial artscombat sports and notice the height.

    Repeat the experiment multiple time and try and calculate the average height you dipshit.

    If short people were so desiderable we wouldn’t have so many tall men running around nowadays, and we wouldn’t have a constantly increasing average height.

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  128. Anonymous,

    There was a book that came out in the last year or two that said Davids can frequently triumph over Goliaths — provided they do not play by Goliath’s rules. When you put two guys in a ring, you’ve already created a dynamic that rewards certain attributes over others.

    The British would have easily triumphed over American Revolutionaries if the latter did not resort to “dishonorable” tactics (i.e., guerilla warfare).

    I don’t care if some guy is 6’6 250 pounds of pure muscle, a knee is a knee. In a state of nature the Geneva Conventions do not apply, much less the gaming commission of the state of Nevada. People will do what works — nuts, throats, eye-balls etc. They will blind you with sand, set traps, use weapons, and employ confederates.

    Fights in the NBA are hilarious. These guys have no idea how to throw a punch, probably because they towered over most people by the time they reached the sixth grade.

    Again, there’s a nature-nurture dynamic. Who do you choose in a fight — the person endowed with physical gifts or the tested warrior? The man with 90 years worth of experience is probably not going to last long toe-to-toe. An Adonis will get wasted by a middle-aged veteran. However, once everyone receives training, then natural abilities will matter even more.

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  129. In the linked article, Naomi Wolf writes:

    “When I came of age in the seventies, it was still pretty cool to be able to offer a young man the actual presence of a naked, willing young woman. There were more young men who wanted to be with naked women than there were naked women on the market. If there was nothing actively alarming about you, you could get a pretty enthusiastic response by just showing up.

    “… Now you have to offer—or flirtatiously suggest—the lesbian scene, the ejaculate-in-the-face scene. Being naked is not enough; you have to be buff, be tan with no tan lines, have the surgically hoisted breasts and the Brazilian bikini wax—just like porn stars.”

    No, Roissy, you are right. Wolf doesn’t get it. There are still plenty of guys content merely with a naked woman with nothing actively wrong with her; there just aren’t many alphas – or payahs like myself – content with that. Nor should we be.

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  130. I see no one has explained how the guy in the video was being aloof. I take it then that there is now agreement that being aloof is an ingredient of game, analogous to the push in push pull, and is not a cornerstone of it that can be applied as a constant.

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  131. Regarding the video, note the comment on this post:
    http://www.growyourgame.com/articles/interviews/keys-to-the-vip-is-it-real-interview-with-derek-cajun/


    keys to the VIP is bs.
    rob vs justin
    I went to school with rob cavaliere and adriana doria. you may remember her as the last girl he was “picking up”. this was when the “angry girlfriend” came by, they made out and “left the club together”. They were good friends at father bressani chs in woodbridge.

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  132. on December 29, 2010 at 8:12 pm Obstinance Works

    Yeah Roosh, that was fake as fuck, but not a bad example of kino and balls. Oh yeah, I’m short and white and do a great dougie.

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  133. “On an unrelated note, I deleted a recent post”

    Did you get your Skittles?

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  134. Rosenberg

    f you want to know who is in power, just ask yourself one question: whom can’t I criticize?I

    BINGO

    In a sea of ewords – Succinct truth.

    YOU are a true mensch.

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