Men Work Longer Hours For The Wives They Wish They Had

Reader gig left this comment to the previous post:

The noticing of how unattractiveness in women leads men to work longer is amazing. I see it everyday. I bet that much of alcohol abusers started so because of some unpleasant experience with women, specially sudden fattening of formerly attractive girls.

There is a widely held misconception that men who work long hours, or work later than they normally do, are doing so to please or otherwise impress their wives. In fact, much of the time just the opposite is true. Men will often work longer hours to *get away* from aging wives who are no longer attractive to them. It’s only the hottie wives who can inspire their husbands to get their work done on time and rush home for some lovin’.

Men who work long hours are essentially telling their wives that they’d rather spend time at the office amassing resources to attract a hotter, younger wife just over the horizon.





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  1. true story.

    when i was in the army, almost every day in garrison was the same. it would four or five or six and we’d all be waiting for the company first sergeant and the platoon sergeants to call it COB (close of business). of course, most of them hated their wives and would drag their feet while all of us younger single guys, and the married guys who still had young wives just sat there staring at the wall wishing the day would end.

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  2. amassing resources??? more like banging the receptionist

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  3. on September 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm gunslingergregi

    Dam or maybe to retire. But yea when I was in army all the older guys “joked” about there wives not giving them sex anymore.

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  4. on September 29, 2009 at 5:24 pm gunslingergregi

    Got to admit I could have retired 2 years ago. I thought it was patriatism that held me in the job.

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  5. if i were to grow old with my husband but do my best to keep thin and healthy i would still age and not be as beautiful as when we first met ..
    does that mean now im unattractive to him ?no matter what i do i cant stop time but i will inevitably lose my husband to a younger hot girl ?

    [editor: nothing is inevitable. unless your husband has the status or charisma to score a younger hot girl his options will gradually shrink along with yours. you know that saying “grow old along with me, the best is yet to be”? it would be more accurate to say “grow old along with me, where the hell else would we be?”]

    or is it just a fat wife that is unattractive?

    [take my fat wife, please!]

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  6. In the firm we used to joke about the miserable guys who just didn’t want to go home.

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  7. another reason for working longer hours is o m e g a ness pure and simply, guys can´t get any girl so they “fullfill” their lifes through work. I had a boss who was exactly like Lucifer who comments here. The only difference was that the guy was rich, yet he repelled women so hard that he could only score through paying. My personal antipathy through Lucifer is rooted on that.

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  8. Ok, seriously, how do you know this?

    [editor: godlike powers coupled with a prehensile penis.]

    I’m sure every man around here will swear up and down it’s true, but seriously, off the cuff much?

    [on this i have only to go on my personal observations in conjunction with an understanding of how the male brain works. well, that, and my divining cock, which i whip out to locate wellsprings of pussy juice.]

    Although, young bachelor gig is, of course, a great source.

    [young bachelor gig is a card.]

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  9. @ guns

    your personal jihad to make a forgotten topic hit 3000 comments is definitive proof that you are ASKING for retirement

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  10. You’re nearing mid-life and you don’t work hard?

    Do you do anything well aside from blogging about being an alpha male player?

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  11. There’s “working hard” and then there is finding reasons, even when work is slowish, to stay late in the office.

    My experience in ~15 years of law firms and corporate America is that the folks older than 35 who stay the longest are a combination of (1) unattached women, (2) men who are married and (3) men who are gunning for promotions. Younger married guys are out of there like clockwork, as are married women.

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  12. Men who work long hours at jobs they hate deserve what they get. They’ve made the wrong choices in women and work and now they’re trapped, with work being the least annoying or most rewarding place to waste their lives.

    Now, if you made the right choices, and you love your work, then she should support the hours you put in, because you’re doing the work that you’d do if she was around or not.

    Trying to please her by running home when she wants is only going to make both of you miserable.

    [editor: running home when “she” wants? what if he’s running home because he wants to bang the snot out of her post haste?]

    Heh: Better yet, make her come to the office so you can fuck.

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  13. editor: godlike powers coupled with a prehensile penis.

    now we know why some women develope vagina dentata.

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  14. My experience in ~15 years of law firms and corporate America is that the folks older than 35 who stay the longest are a combination of (1) unattached women, (2) men who are married and (3) men who are gunning for promotions. Younger married guys are out of there like clockwork, as are married women.

    Never Ever work for a woman over 50 who has no reason to go home.
    (applicable to a lesser degree to men too, though he is less likely to personally punish you and more likely to make you drink or eat at the office with you.)

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  15. (1) unattached women, (2) men who are married and (3) men who are gunning for promotions. Younger married guys are out of there like clockwork, as are married women.

    A real alpha would be #3. He wouldn’t settle for less.

    [editor: a real alpha would be banging 3 women simultaneously, and wouldn’t much give a shit about promotions at the expense of fun, as he wouldn’t be looking to marry a status whoring golddigger. no personal slight intended if you fall into that category.]

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  16. A real alpha would be #3. He wouldn’t settle for less.

    You mis-spelled betaprovider.

    A real alpha realizes that you can never get rich working for someone else, and starts his own company.

    A man who defines his own life and lives by his own rules is more alpha than any wage slave.

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  17. once again, the dumb dyke gets her ugly ass handed to her.

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  18. **
    Trying to please her by running home when she wants is only going to make both of you miserable.

    [editor: running home when “she” wants? what if he’s running home because he wants to bang the snot out of her post haste?]
    **

    I’d bet most of those young guys running home are beta herbs who think they need to be home at 5 or she’s gonna give em a pouty face.

    Have you seen Extract yet? If the main character doesn’t get home in time, his wife ties up the sweat pants and he’s stuck with blue balls.

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  19. guys who are happily married won´t work a minute more than necessary.

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  20. I’ve been self employed since I started selling home made candles “for cancer” as a nine year old. I’ve started and got bored with and let die a few fistfulls of endeavors.

    This whole concept of going home after work is foreign to me. I can work from a cafe or on my bed – my girl is usually with me. That’s fine – she never bores me, as I can shut her up if need be.

    During pre-internet days, as a travelling salesman or what have you it was also possible to have a girl accompany me or work with me. Good way to meet girls, actually – screen them through their resumes.

    Living on the grid and by the book and inside the system? I don’t know how people handle it. I’d think the stress and dissatisfaction would drive people en-masse to heavy dependence on anti-depressents, drugs and alcohol, and the drearyness of their quietly desparate lives would lead to grasping at any source of fullfillment – like food – and therefore an epidemic of obesity.

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  21. xsplat: “Living on the grid and by the book and inside the system? I don’t know how people handle it.”

    Simple: they don’t know any better. The prison cage can look normal if that’s all you’ve ever known. I have to admit, going off on my own scared the shit out of me, but it’s been super great. I’ve done the best creative work of my life this way, and I can sleep as late as I like. And, everything I create or build is mine.

    “The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.”

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  22. Yes, Lupo, and the added side benefit to struggling to make and remake your economic life is that of constantly facing fear and learning new things. Which is the basic hangup that keeps people from dating – the fear of trying new things and of failure.

    Entrepreneurship is one avenue of speeding up the maturity process – it can indeed make a man out of you.

    Travel is also recommended.systA real alpha would be #3. He wouldn’t settle for lessem?

    Change, in general – and as an ongoing habit.

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  23. Travel is also recommended.

    Change, in general – and as an ongoing habit.

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  24. Great post sir.

    Roissy,

    Will you please write more on money NOT being a primary key to attraction…I have this argument all of the time.

    Ty, good sir.

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  25. on September 29, 2009 at 7:22 pm gunslingergregi

    ””’xsplat:
    “Living on the grid and by the book and inside the system? I don’t know how people handle it.”””””””””””

    ””””’“Lupo
    The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.””””””””””””’

    ”””””””””’xsplat
    A real alpha would be #3. He wouldn’t settle for less.

    You mis-spelled betaprovider.

    A real alpha realizes that you can never get rich working for someone else, and starts his own company.

    A man who defines his own life and lives by his own rules is more alpha than any wage slave.
    ””””””””””””””

    ”””””””””gig
    @ guns

    your personal jihad to make a forgotten topic hit 3000 comments is definitive proof that you are ASKING for retirement
    ””””””””””””’

    Nice comments above @gig yea I may be ready. I give the wife 20 more g’s and she makes between 3 and 15 g’s a month. Is it alpha to just chill and get fed all day?
    Scary is not the word for actually seperating from system.
    And yet all these woman worry about is it equal distrobution of time and whatnot with a man. Does he make more money bla bla Is he the “right” man because he is going to make money. They have no clue. Hillarious shit all these educated woman who still have not figured out life.
    “shrugs”

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  26. on September 29, 2009 at 7:23 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””””””Madras
    Great post sir.

    Roissy,

    Will you please write more on money NOT being a primary key to attraction…I have this argument all of the time.

    Ty, good sir.
    ””””””””””’
    It is when the woman is ready to “settle” down he he he

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  27. …on money NOT being a primary key to attraction…

    I’m not sure why people assume a mono-strategy for a monolithic female sexuality.

    Some women are heavily influenced by a mans wealth.

    Some are more susceptible to charm.

    Women have different mating strategies. At different times. There is no one size fits all answer, either way. There are various strategies that will fit various situations.

    Money is one such strategy that fits many situations.

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  28. on September 29, 2009 at 7:31 pm gunslingergregi

    lol xsplat and it fits many situations anywhere on earth.

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  29. on September 29, 2009 at 7:33 pm gunslingergregi

    Not to say hopefully you can’t move beyond money once you have it to point where your fucking on a matress made of it.

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  30. How much money does a good-looking man with game need to make? Surprisingly little. If you’re good, you can get by on $60,000 in a major metropolitan area. If you’re really good, less will do.

    Women who require men with a lot of money want to be “taken care of” – i.e., not work; pop out babies; hire a nanny.

    If you’ve got game, you disqualify those girls from your life.

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  31. Hah, Fuck marriage.

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  32. How depressing… so if the solution for a 25+ year old girl is to marry a guy 35+, WHERE CAN A GIRL MEET OLDER SINGLE GUYS?

    The only guys I know who are in their late 30s and single are either very bitter about women or eternal bachelors.

    This is something I’ve never figured out. I want to meet older guys but the only ones I meet are from my age up to early 30s. Boooo 😦

    Where do older guys interested in younger women (and are not vehemently anti-marriage) go? I don’t think I’ll meet any socially, though I wish I would (so I can pre-screen).

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  33. WHERE CAN A GIRL MEET OLDER SINGLE GUYS?

    Outside of divorce court. 🙂

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  34. The guy hiding at the office is not amassing any wealth. He is just hiding. I watched few minutes of sports of the gym locker room TV, and then got up saying something like “this game is done.” The old timer next to me said “well its either this or go home and fight with the old lady.” Sad.

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  35. Xsplat: “Some women are heavily influenced by a mans wealth”

    WRONG. WRONG. WRONG.

    Nearly all women THINK they are. But outside of the extreme cases (eg, I can buy you an island; I live on the street) it doesnt matter.

    A guy with game and 50k a year salary beats a guy with no game and 500k salary with 99% of women.

    Now a guy with no game an 50 million a year…he may beat the 50k dude, but that is clearly an extreme.

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  36. on September 29, 2009 at 8:02 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea madras for 10 g’s you can’t set up a meeting with a model. Not influenced by money your right. he he he

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  37. Ok, Madras, money doesn’t turn women on at all. It’s all in their imagination.

    There are no women who pre-screen based on money, and only money.

    There are no women who will ONLY fuck men with money.

    There are no women who would choose a man with money over a man with game.

    Good to know. Game is all you need. Just like love, huh? How sweet! How romantic!

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  38. DA – lolll sillyyyyy.

    *sigh* all these old guys with Game… and I don’t meet any. I don’t get it. I don’t have issues with attracting guys around my age that I like… I just want the same types of guys but older. If I am attractive enough for Alpha-ish young guys to hit on me, treat me well and bring up marriage fairly quickly, why not the older ones? What am I doing wrong?

    I’d prefer an oldish manly guy with traditional values… meaning a guy who believes in marriage… it seems like those types of guys don’t seek out much younger girls. Or at least very few do. Or am I totally wrong?

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  39. on September 29, 2009 at 8:11 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea I know skittles man and all that but its kind of like the gurus that tell your gonna get rich off investing 100 dollars in market. Sure you can get away with some skittles action but look the part.

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  40. Uh! I feel like I’m not getting it. Reading this post, and the last post, and my own post, and stuff with the guy… I am soooo confused! What should a girl who is getting along in years do with herself? This sux 😦 I need to go workout…

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  41. I don’t know, lovelysex – seems to me that the modern Alpha doesn’t have marriage on his mind.

    You want a guy who is both family oriented and alpha? A guy who defines his own life and wants family and marriage?

    Nowadays you’re more likely to get one or the other. Family oriented or rake.

    Or maybe it’s always been that way.

    It’s a different mating strategy – a different life strategy. Being married tends to make the man gain weight and causes a drastic reduction in testosterone. It makes a beta out of him.

    Seems you want to eat up all your cake and still have all of your cake.

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  42. Nothing will keep a guy at work like a wife at home with a screaming kid. I’ve noticed many male coworkers, as soon as they have a kid at home, oh my they start putting in the long, long hours.

    The best thing about it is he can tell her “it’s for our baby, baby!”

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  43. If a man wants to get married, and is an attractive marriage partner, he usually is married by 35 years of age.

    So, meeting never married attractive men, who want to get married, between ages 35-40 would be tough. If you do meet one, likely he will have had lots of experience with lots of types of women, and may have very particular expectations for a wife. Just being young and cute won’t cut it for him.

    I wonder if it is possible to find a beta age 35, attractive and economically promising, and never married and so not too bitter about women, and put him through rehab. Get him to man up enough to marry a woman and wear the pants and keep a woman happy. Engineering professionals might fall into this category.

    Interesting thought.

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  44. Definition of hell: living in a newlywed sized house with one feminist wife and one infant.

    If I have kids, the wife and nannies will do all the infant and most of the child care. And I’ll travel much and keep a spare apartment/house nearby and I’ll take the wife away from the kids for long stretches.

    It’s living hell to be expected to be a male nanny, living with nothing but the support of your wife.

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  45. And I’ll travel much and keep a spare apartment/house nearby and I’ll take the wife away from the kids for long stretches.

    Don’t have kids.

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  46. Excellent Nietzsche quote, Lupo.

    Much as the company may irk me, I have to stand in the indie corner on this issue.

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  47. Actually, Lilgirl, using an extended family as alternate caregivers is a viable option.

    The idea of man-wife living in an isolated house to raise up their nuclear family is not the only, nor always the best solution.

    I dated a 21 year old for a year who had two kids. We spent at least half our time living away from them. They were co-raised by her extended family.

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  48. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6241440/German-men-are-worlds-worst-lovers-with-English-men-in-second-place.html

    15,000 women polled

    WORLD’S WORST LOVERS:

    1. Germany (too smelly)

    2. England (too lazy)

    3. Sweden (too quick)

    4. Holland (too dominating)

    5. America (too rough)

    6. Greece (too lovey-dovey)

    7. Wales (too selfish)

    8. Scotland (too loud)

    9. Turkey (too sweaty)

    10. Russia (too hairy)

    WORLD’S BEST LOVERS

    1. Spain

    2. Brazil

    3. Italy

    4. France

    5. Ireland

    6. South Africa

    7. Australia

    8. New Zealand

    9. Denmark

    10. Canada

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  49. I”m not at all fond of the nuclear family model, when it comes to kids. It’s too hard on the parents and deprives other interested parties of enjoying the benefits of laughing children. Kids also can benefit from being part of a clan – not just of a two parent household.

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  50. xsplat:

    “There are no women who pre-screen based on money, and only money.

    There are no women who will ONLY fuck men with money.”

    There are women who THINK they want this and if some dude is dumb enough to play it straight to them…then that will be the result.

    But a guy who simply doesnt approach the topic, acts like he has money, but doesnt actually spend it on her…its all even.

    Obviously, if douchbage A says “I make 50k dear!” and douchebag B says “I make 500k dear”…then douchebag B wins….but if guy C just doesnt talk about the topic and gives an impression of having money without actually spending much…C wins.

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  51. @ xplsat:

    Also…I promise, promise, promise that the women who marries a banker or finance guy for his money has had more than her fair share of alpha bartenders in her day.

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  52. Madras, I do fine dating when I’m broke. I do a lot better when I’m flush. One experience I’ve had over and over is coming across women for whom it’s a no-starter without dosh.

    Luckily for me I don’t like that brand of gold digger.

    Maybe you’ve never come across such a beast. Maybe you think they don’t exist. Or that they appear to exist, but can be gamed out of their gold diggery.

    My point is that for SOME women money is MUCH more important than for some other women. Some women value money hugely. Primely and primally.

    Seems you’ve never come across such an animal.

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  53. As for your A, B, and C idea – it doesn’t always field test.

    Sooner or later the gold digger will find out the man’s resources.

    Ya, you can fuck some gold diggers.

    Some gold diggers you can’t.

    Hell, some girls remain virgin until the rich enough man comes along. No joke!

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  54. Xsplat,

    I have. This past weekend there was an example. I made it sound like I made more than I did (though I never actually lied) and bought her 3 drinks for 8$ a pop at a the BAR of a nice restuarant. We fucked later.

    It made it seem like I had money…I’m really pretty solidly a middle class twenty something.

    Now she may live happily ever after with a dood who makes 900k a year…but oh well…I think I got the better end of the deal.

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  55. @ guns

    no bad feelings, man! You are among the few here whose life is actually enviable!

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  56. Well there you go, Madras.

    You faked money for a temporary fuck.

    So we are saying exactly the same thing.

    For some women if you can’t at least give the appearance of money, it’s a non-starter.

    In arranging a date one girl quizzed me about car and apartment, and refused to meet based on not passing her test.

    Of course men are turned off by such status whoring. But to deny that it’s a hugely influential component of female behavior would be naive.

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  57. some anedcotes

    – When I worked under the Luciferesque o m e g a, a workmate who was married yet wouldn’t leave before 9 PM everyday, the only days he would do so he would go to whorehouses and then blame his delay on working to wife. He was a textbook case of a guy fittingthe description above. I was the youngest guy there and had already the fame of partying hard

    so this guy comes to me someday and says : “gig, we gonna party hard. I just sent my wife for two weeks in Paris. I am free for everything. We gonna bang all the chicks in this city”

    seriously. I tried my best to hide what I thought. That the loser in frontof me would fail in any nightclub while his wife would buy half of Paris and would be banged by a moroccan, a senegalese and a Norman at the same time.

    – saturday I opened my facebook account. Sent invitations for my email contacts and to people facebook recommended based on people already added, always adding one girl for every guy. at least. I woke up -stoned- at 8:30 AM, posted something here, and added people for one hour. Then I returned to bed. at 11:30 AM Iwoke up again and checked to see how many people had added me. 15 had, done it. 4 guys, 3 of whom were in Europe so for them it was late afternoon and 11 girls, all in my time zone. What the hell does a girl do at facebook at 9:30 AM in a saturday is beyond me. It only proves the frivolity of girls

    – Went to buy an iphone saturday. But then I changed to a blackbery. Don’t know about others, but I think Iphones are girlish and effeminate. Blackberries look more manly

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  58. on September 29, 2009 at 9:18 pm Richard Ramirez

    “Killer groupies an unexplained mystery”

    Is the depravity of woman such a mystery?

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  59. Muslim men get to hang out with each other when they want, play backgammon and shoot shit all day, then they go home bang the woman and she shuts the hell up and does the work. We could take a lesson from them. They don’t need game.

    No one wants to be companions or friends with a fucking cunt anyway, let’s face it….

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  60. LovlySexyButiful

    You are looking for worldly-wise, well off guys who are in the market for a modern western marriage?
    Why not look for boiled ice?

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  61. I think this looks over a large part of the population who work long hours because they are devoted to some cause. I find that a lot in the DC area, “life gunners” who are gung-ho about their career. Many are engaged, or very recently married. I don’t see these people losing attraction for their lovers so quickly. More just believing that their mission is #1.

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  62. gig,

    You (and other guys) have to get something through your heads.

    Unlike the vast majority of men, I do not care about external opinions and attitudes. I believe in myself.

    Now, I know that is a very hard to comprehend concept for most of you, since your opinion about yourself is based on external inputs. I simply do not care, because I find that life (and the universe) have no meaning other than what you choose to give it.

    You could be ‘alpha’ whatever, and you could die in a freak accident tomorrow or of old age 60 years from now. It does not matter.

    The truth is that you are a 150-200 pound animal living in an interglacial period in the midst a freak occurrence (civilization) at a certain time in the history of the third rock from a 3+ generation star, in a medium size spiral galaxy- that is just one of the billions which exist in the universe we exist in (maybe there are an infinite number of other universes). The only possible difference between you and an insect is that you could possibly comprehend your insignificance.

    So why should I care about what someone else thinks about me, does it matter? I (my brain + experiences) create my own reality, which involves (among other things) paying women for the only thing I want from them.

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  63. Lovelysexybeauty has managed to get on my nerves.

    Her annoying cloying posts are just too much.

    I suspect she uses a female internet bullshit strategy(FIBS). A girl that is a 4 in real life will use various tactics to assume the role of an 8 on the internet. They include:

    1. Myspace angles in posted pictures(to hide unsightly facial asymmetry and body bulges)
    2. Excessive contrast (hides blemishes)
    3. Prodigious use of cutesy language
    4. Always in the clutches of a dilemma in need of male rescue or intervention

    Feministx is another clear user. Combine these tactics with the bumper crop of SUPPLICATING BETAS & OMEGAS all over the internet and before you know it the white-knighting will crowd out any other legitimate discussion.

    LSB, shut the fuck up. No one here wants to rescue you.

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  64. It is so true.

    I hate my job and I hate my homelife.

    I make good money, (nearly 6 figures), but I have to bust my ass to do it. When it’s time to go home, I don’t really want to go, since my wife is unattractive and has a low sex drive. Oh, and my adult children still live at home and get on my damn nerves. Of course my wife fully supports them still living at home with no plans on moving out. In the meantime my wife is easily 50 lbs overweight, so I’m not attracted to her in the least. So I bust my ass at work, and for what?

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  65. lovelysexybeauty,

    you reap what you sow.

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  66. This is not related to the post, but it is interesting. I found it through Slate’s unsightly DoubleX blog. Good luck, Sister!

    http://firstpersonsingular.org/2009/04/24/94-reasons-the-man-im-dating-isnt-right-for-me/

    http://firstpersonsingular.org/2009/05/25/94-reasons-why-the-man-i-havent-met-is-right-for-me/

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  67. @arrakis

    “Men from Holland were “too rough” between the bed covers and Americans were accused of being “too dominating” in the bedroom. ”

    Americans, too dominating in the bedroom. I would never guess.

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  68. Arrakis, I am shocked Ireland made the list. Many men are very beta and have a reputation of weak-willed ness versus bitchy women.

    This is part of why feminism has taken root so well in the US: Irish women, with Jewish women (bitchy broads with weak husbands), form a large percentage of the population and the intelligensia.

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  69. on September 29, 2009 at 11:18 pm gunslingergregi

    lsb shit does work too don’t it mb. I admit she makes me a little hot. Fucking with both my woman.

    ””””””’lovelysexybeauty
    Uh! I feel like I’m not getting it. Reading this post, and the last post, and my own post, and stuff with the guy… I am soooo confused! What should a girl who is getting along in years do with herself? This sux I need to go workout…”””””””””’

    Seriously though lsb has till tomorrow to come up with some “goodies”.

    mb ya can’t compare her to femx though that chick is semi retarded.

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  70. So I bust my ass at work, for what? For a wife who I’m not attracted to, and pays no mind to my sexual needs, like when I wake in the morning with a big hard on, and I know she can feel it pressing into her back, but she pretends like it’s not there? Is that why I bust my ass? In the meantime, I could easily score some vag on the side if I wasn’t so tied up with and stressed out about work all the time.

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  71. And every night is the damn same. Come home from work, eat dinner, head to gym, get on puter for an hour before bed. Get up the next morning, work 9 hours, and repeat.

    I swear I have to get a girlfriend.

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  72. Hey anonymous, you keep posting like that AND I’LL have a mid-life crisis.

    Jesus man, make some changes.

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  73. on September 29, 2009 at 11:34 pm ironrailsironweights

    Working long hours is fun if you get a tasty reward.

    Peter

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  74. on September 29, 2009 at 11:38 pm gunslingergregi

    Dam anon there is almost a tear. Tell her to turn around and suck that cock. Tell her after you come in her mouth you want to see that shit before she swallows. Then tell her to assume the position face down ass up. Don’t fuck her. Just let her stay like that while you watch the tube. Then tell her to suck your cock again the second time. Then tell her to assume position. Then have her suck your cock again. Tell her to stop. Tell her to go and fix you a sandwitch with some meat that is not in the fridge. When she tells you its not in fridge just stare at her till she walks out the door and goes and buys the meat you wanted on sandwitch. She makes you sandwitch while of course assuming position. You eat the sandwitch with one hand while you play with her clit with the other till she cums. Put her face up against headboard and fuck the shit out of her from behind. Of course ass and pussy. Then after you cum put that shit back in her mouth for a fourth go. Then go sleep on the couch.

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  75. Truth be known, I hate what my life has become.

    I’m 44, don’t have a sex life, work my ass off for what, I dont know.

    Been married 15 years, with a couple short term affairs. If I divorce, I lose house, savings, retirement,and will take 10-15 years to recover. That would put me near retirement age not being any better off financially than I am now. Wife always put the kids before me. Now they are spoiled adults without even a fucking clue how to move out into the world and be self sufficient. But if I talk to them about what they need to do, I am being “mean” and “pushing them out”.

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  76. on September 29, 2009 at 11:40 pm gunslingergregi

    Repeat as necessary until she loses weight and cuddles with you on couch he he he

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  77. MB, I had an affair a couple years ago. It was great. She was younger than wife, much better looking and loved to screw. Bad thing was that she was manic-depressive. It made the sex great, but on the whole she was far too unsteady to be seriously involved with.

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  78. on September 29, 2009 at 11:43 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””But if I talk to them about what they need to do, I am being “mean” and “pushing them out”.”””””’

    Holy Shit yea bad she is not deferring to your manhood on life lesson teaching. Very bad. Start taking her around to divorced cat woman who are older. Call them field trips.

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  79. on September 29, 2009 at 11:56 pm The Fifth Horseman

    Roissy wrote :

    Men who work long hours are essentially telling their wives that they’d rather spend time at the office amassing resources to attract a hotter, younger wife just over the horizon.

    Now how can this be true, given what the divorce laws are? Whatever he amasses, present and future, go to the first ex-wife in the form of child support = alimony.

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  80. Somebody told me I should read up on Lucifer. I’m glad I did. Maybe I never got along with women is because I never found them interesting. The only reason I tried talking to them is because I tried to bang them.

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  81. on September 30, 2009 at 12:05 am gunslingergregi

    Also though the affairs you had and didn’t have the balls to tell her about probably helped you on your way to becoming one of the worlds biggest vaginas. Might be able to stage a comeback. Guys usually can.

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  82. on September 30, 2009 at 12:08 am The Fifth Horseman

    LSB,

    I am exactly the type of man you seek. I am 35, am tiptop in career success and looks, and am Indian. I am a great cook, play the piano and violin well, and I used to compete in Latin Dance at the national level. I was born and raised in the US, yet speak all Indian languages.

    Plus, I am highly competent in Game.

    But I probably do not wish to marry. This is because the divorce laws are very anti-male, and very leftist in philosophy. I do not care to be subjected to those conditions, as I do not believe in them. Feminist laws have pushed marriage outside of what I consider an acceptable risk/reward profile.

    I would only marry if the woman made the same money as me (a criteria that would exclude 99% of women), was at least an 8 in looks, and was willing to draft a pre-nup. Failing that, I am not interested.

    So, blame the feminist divorce laws for making men like me unavailable for marriage. And yes, US divorce laws supercede Indian traditions, as the laws are the laws. People like your father ‘do not approve of pre-nups’. Well, he is not sufficiently informed to comment on 21st century realities.

    Your misfortune is that you still retain a lot of Indian values, at a time when Western laws are extremely damaging to the very notion of marriage. Hence, you are squeezed from both ends. You should blame Western feminism primarily, and Indian culture secondarily, for the quandry you are in.

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  83. xsplat

    It’s living hell to be expected to be a male nanny, living with nothing but the support of your wife.

    You know what’s even worse? Having to be a male nanny and pay your wife CS at the same time. It’s a lot more common than most guys realize.

    I did it because it’s the only way I had a fighting chance for joint custody. You really wouldn’t believe how many guys are forced to sacrifice their lives because they married what turned out to be a worthless whore.

    Never Again.

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  84. Lucy
    If you honestly believed in the abject insignificance of yours and our thoughts & opinions you would never bother to voice an expression in regard to them here. Which you do regularly.
    OK, You are a bullshitter. You might not be the only one here. It is hard for me to tell about this because my own heart is so pure.
    Carl Jung was a BS artist in his own way but he got his hands on some deeply true material – almost by accident.
    Anyway, if you ever want to outgrow your jejune nihilism get deeply into Jungianism. Besides, you will meet lots of idea-addled chicks who just might want to “Get in Touch” with your male side.
    Without you even having to drain your gold-hoard.

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  85. on September 30, 2009 at 12:28 am HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    Makes sense, their wives are unattractive and the only way they know to get better ones is to work hard and have more money. I don’t think it’s necessarily that they’re “running away” from their wives.

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  86. @TFH,

    There are bay-area single chicks that make perhaps not as much money as you but are probably close to near the max of what you can make working for the MAN. You will still have downside in divorce, but it would be small. My current wife pulled in quite a bit of money before being a lazy cunt so I can complain about it but it’s not so bad. I know a couple yuppie chicks that make good money who are good to go (i.e. seriously “court” not fuck) right now and have ❤ notches and are decent looking. They are ALL asian – and all tried to get a boyfriend of several years to commit. This is the only way you can get a low notch count high-earning chick that doesn't look like a troll. Hard to find but you just have to dig and mingle a little to find them.

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  87. Hey Roissy, I’m suffering from insomnia so I have a question for you: Roman Polanski – was it rape? Does he deserve to be prosecuted?

    You’ve defended Monica Lewinski, sort of, who was over 18 and not (quite) pitched at Clinton by her parents, as Polanski’s victim was. So will you defend her?

    I’m curious, because although there’s some “he said, she said” in this story, I find this victim credible. And Polanski did plead guilty, or so I understand. An alpha male? Or a sociopath? Please don’t tell us that the two are exactly the same.

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  88. on September 30, 2009 at 1:17 am gunslingergregi

    Dam anonymous thanks for sharing. I just had to have an hour of phone sex and made the woman make herself puke on the phone just to make sure I had some control. I feel better now but still can’t sleep with the awake nightmare of christmas past. Yea it can happen but you got to step up and if she listens fine if not get the fuck out of dodge.

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  89. “amassing resources to attract a hotter, younger wife ”

    You’re being nice and giving these guys too much credit. If they are working more to avoid a fat wife, I think they will be unlikely to pull a hotter, younger wife.

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  90. “WORLD’S WORST LOVERS:

    5. America (too rough)”

    Now that’s funny…..considering how common it is for american girls to not only want (but ask, if not beg) you to pull their hair practically out of their head, spank them as hard as possible, bite their ass, or other countless similar choices.

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  91. on September 30, 2009 at 1:29 am gunslingergregi

    Course the woman fucking rocked a giant orgasm ya know why because they love to be dominated and fucking owned.

    Problem is in marriage guy has no tools to challenge woman. Why ya need to grab the tool of letting her know your gonna fuck other woman to give her some sort of bar that is set that she needs to keep producing results. What else can ya do to get compliance if there is none. Make it challenging for her. If she is your only pussy yea she got you by balls and she knows it. Used to go both ways though now its all bs.

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  92. on September 30, 2009 at 1:30 am gunslingergregi

    Yea Rhoosh I go to expensive resteraunts because I enjoy going to expensive resteraunts. The woman there can make a nice addition to the food. Ambiance.

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  93. This is dead on. I notice that the older guys stay at work as long as possible or just avoid going home.

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  94. “Hey Roissy, I’m suffering from insomnia so I have a question for you: Roman Polanski – was it rape? Does he deserve to be prosecuted?”

    OK…now here’s a thought experiment for ya:

    1) Forget Roman Polanski is an epic filmmaker (Chinatown and Rosemary’s Baby are both top 100 films in the history of cinema.)

    2) Forget his tragic childhood.

    3) Forget the campaign of support he’s receiving from his Hollywood friends.

    Now…given the facts of the case — was it rape? Does he deserve to be prosecuted?

    Tell me what you come up with.

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  95. I think the solution to the problem of the aging wife is obvious: train women to be extraordinarily skilled at fellatio from a young age. Inculcate head giving as an unquestionable wifely duty.

    Surely this is an imperfect solution, but it may be a sufficient improvement over status quo to not let the situation be too critical.

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  96. First, sorry to anyone and everyone for my whiny posts last night. I need to control this moodiness! Whining is for my own blog.. and of course I got no useful info. on specific ways to meet older guys too lol

    Just gonna respond to
    Fifth Horseman saab –

    Thanks for taking the time to respond and letting me know about it over on GirlGame.

    I compare my real life experiences to what is talked about on this blog. And there are differences! Which do you think I’ll pay attention to more – stories on a blog or what happens to me, my friends and family?

    I don’t find nearly as many guys hesitant about marriage, or freaked out about divorce, in real life. At least they don’t show it around me! Or maybe I don’t notice it… I could def. be wrong.

    Have you seen my blog or my post on GirlGame? No worries about reading them, but basically… lots of high quality guys want to get married, *to my surprise*. How do I know? My friends are getting married and more importantly, I am getting asked for marriage (ring shopping, etc.). A guy is concretely talking about marriage to me right now…

    My dilemma with the guy who wants to marry me? First, lots of other women throw themselves at him and I don’t get why he wants to settle down with me.

    Second, this post and the other made me think: IS HE TOO YOUNG TO STAY IN LOVE WITH ME FOR LIFE? This is very important… and one of the only reasons that I sort of want to see what else is out there… despite thinking he is the most amazing guy I have ever met.

    I don’t feel good about feeling these doubts about him… he treats me so well… he is soooo hott 😉 But I have to be smart and not get married to someone I’m happy with in my 20s, that will not love me as much in my 30s and 40s.

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  97. Part of the problem is non-sexual. After having children, many women make the children their focus in life and don’t pay much attention to their husband. Putting aside sex, it would be nice to come home to a wife who will fix the guy something to eat and listen to him talk about his day at work. As opposed to blowing the guy off and helping the kids with their homework.

    I think most husbands would be more forgiving of their wives’ deterioration in looks if the wife would be a bit more traditional in this respect. Unfortunately, feminists have taught us that it’s demeaning for a woman to act like this and abusive for a husband to demand that his wife make a pleasant home for him.

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  98. I”m not at all fond of the nuclear family model, when it comes to kids. It’s too hard on the parents and deprives other interested parties of enjoying the benefits of laughing children. Kids also can benefit from being part of a clan – not just of a two parent household.

    Grandparents are invaluable. Other members of the extended family can also be of great help. Load balancing is often critical in childcare. At work, there can be appointments that cannot be missed but kids can get sick any time.

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  99. Roissy, your perspective on relationships is so fatally skewed that I’m surprised that you’ve managed to accumulate so much false information on how relationships work. I have this lingering feeling that you sit in your mother’s basement, bag of Hot Fries in one hand, and your three-inch dong in another. You have to maneuver a bit because your stomach is in the way.

    I read a couple of your blog entries and frankly, I believe you’re still a virgin.

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  100. “Don’t have kids.”

    That’s the only possible reason for most men to marry: to raise a family.

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  101. JB, it still looks like rape to me, except that if Polanski weren’t famous no one would have heard about it. In fact, if he weren’t famous it might not have happened at all, because the child’s mother would not have left her alone with any old middle-aged man who had promised to get her picture into Vogue. I don’t think that the mother’s actions were intended to end in the rape of her daughter; she was both naive and ambitious, but not evil. But I don’t believe for one moment that the girl consented.

    There’s some ground for suggesting that Polanski thought the girl had consented, though, or that her mother’s consent had secured her own. And I can recall a debate about rape both here and at my own website, in which various commentators suggested that any time there was any doubt at all regarding consent, the alleged perpetrator should be given the benefit of the doubt.

    Of course, this girl was, at 13, under the age of consent to begin with – a complicating factor in the case and certainly one that guaranteed Mr Polanski’s being found guilty. But many men who post here don’t seem to think much of age of consent laws, either.

    That’s why I’m asking the question. I’m not in any doubt that it was rape. I don’t think the girl or her mother stood to gain anything by making a false accusation of rape, as the case was tried in 1978, a time when feminist legal theory and anti-rape fury had not reached the high level of influence they would in the 1980s. If the child had wanted to appear in Vogue at any price, both mother and daughter would have done better to remain silent about the rape.

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  102. The girl Polanski hit on (well, drugged and then forceably raped and sodomized) was 13. 13. Let that sink in for a moment, 13. He knew it too (he had to get teh consent forms done for prior photography work with her).

    He should have been executed.

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  103. Lucifer:

    “So why should I care about what someone else thinks about me, does it matter? I (my brain + experiences) create my own reality, which involves (among other things) paying women for the only thing I want from them.”

    Wow. So deep (sarcasm alert!)

    You have to care because you are here for likely 50-90 years. And what you do one minute could have repurcussions the rest of your time here. There is a reason you don’t rape the first hot women you see and it isnt because you don’t want to….its because of what others will think AND do…. Its because your decision will affect your comfort level down the line.

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  104. Polanski is slime and I have no problem with his going to prison for statutory rape.

    But her parents (was it just a single mom?) are the real responsible party here. Thirteen year old girls need to be kept at home with parents or married off. Not running around unsupervised.

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  105. LSB, I don’t understand what’s going on with you. Are you actually dating the guy who wants to marry you? What’s your relationship?

    If he’s your boyfriend, why are you entertaining the talk from other guys, and looking for where to meet older guys?

    If you’re not even officially dating, and he’s talking about marrying you, that’s weird and probably b.s. Call his bluff.

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  106. Recall too that Polanski pled the charges down to statutory rape – the allegations (which he hasn’t denied) would support a full standard rape charge:

    “… transcripts of Geimer’s 1977 grand jury testimony, which resulted in six charges against Polanski, were made public. The transcipts include shocking details of 13-year-old Geimer testifying that the 43-year-old Polanski plied her with champagne and part of a Quaalude before performing oral, vaginal and anal intercourse on her, despite her demands to “keep away.” ” From ABC news.

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  107. There’s no question that guys do this. It’s not even necessarily an effort to land somebody hotter so much as a spousal loathing. When I started working, there were two senior managers, one in his forties and one in his fifties, who would work until 7 and then go out for dinner and drinks with each other. They definitely weren’t gay (the younger one was the top guy in the building and still unsuccessfully hit on a low-level chick by oversupplicating), but they also weren’t hard workers – they were horrifically unproductive.

    They were awful people – the fact that they preferred to hang out with each other rather than go home to their wives left a deep impact on how I viewed marriage.

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  108. Nihilist
    Roissy, your perspective on relationships is so fatally skewed that I’m surprised that you’ve managed to accumulate so much false information on how relationships work. I have this lingering feeling that you sit in your mother’s basement, bag of Hot Fries in one hand, and your three-inch dong in another. You have to maneuver a bit because your stomach is in the way.

    I read a couple of your blog entries and frankly, I believe you’re still a virgin.

    is this a PARODY of feminist shaming language? nothing genuine coul dbe this perfectly cliched

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  109. “I have this lingering feeling that you sit in your mother’s basement, bag of Hot Fries in one hand, and your three-inch dong in another. You have to maneuver a bit because your stomach is in the way.”

    Got to admit that’s a pretty good line.

    But don’t worry, Roissy, this man’s a nihilist. There’s nothing to be afraid of.

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  110. “Men who work long hours are essentially telling their wives that they’d rather spend time at the office amassing resources to attract a hotter, younger wife just over the horizon.”

    I think it is far simpler than this. Dudes working longer hours don’t do it to amass resources for a hotter, younger wife – older, fatter, uglier albatross will get the benefit of that through divorce.

    I think it’s just simpler for these dudes to work longer as a pain avoidance strategy (not a good one, I might add). It’s painful to spend all day working to go home to your chunky, usually overbearing, usually very big mouthed wifey, and realize you royally fucked your life up. So you stay at work, rather than go home to the hell you chose.

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  111. Her age doesn’t affect me; her pubescence does. A 13 year old fully sexually mature (i.e. able to have kids) is sexually desireable. A 13 year old who is not sexually mature is not desireable, simply because your attraction is based on what isn’t there—you are a pedophile at that point.

    I respect all age-of-consent laws, but they are highly arbitrary and instituted mostly by 1) feminists, who don’t want young women marrying older men and becoming mothers; and 2) protective parents, wanting laws to shield their daughters and keep them home. Trust me, if feminists could, they’d force all men to marry/date women the exact same age, because women in your age bracket respect you less than a young 21 year old doe looking up to a 35 year old man.

    The crux of Polanski’s case is that he drugged her (with both alcohol and dangerous barbituates)deliberately to prevent her from resisting, heard her say no and resist, and then forced himself on her, raping her not only vaginally, but anally.

    Polanski could have done this to a 25 year old and it would still be a horrendous rape. So the fact that she was a sexually mature 13 year old doesn’t bother me—from the facts indicated, she was in full womanhood very early. It was the drugging, the pushing past no, the raping, and then the anal rape that make him a scumbag.

    Fry Polanski.

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  112. The Fifth Horseman:

    I was born and raised in the US, yet speak all Indian languages.

    You mean all 438 living languages of India as listed by the Ethnologue, or just those 22 that presently have some sort of official status?

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  113. on September 30, 2009 at 1:01 pm Der Shtuppenfuehrer

    ziss is vhy ve must subjugates ze inferior zubhumans breedink of Polant – or, Ost Ost Deutschland as ve call it

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  114. Actually, in Polanski’s case, even if he never gave the girl booze & drugs, it’d still be rape.

    The law says that kids don’t have the capacity to make certain decisions, such as enter into contracts, get married (below a certain age), drink alcohol, or more relevantly, consent to sex.

    Giving her the booze & drugs worsens his crime.

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  115. Ghost of Nicole – yes we’ve going out for a few months after he asked me out again and again… He introduces me to others as his girlfriend, but has never had “the talk” with me officially so I’m like whatever… we are not doing physical stuff (my blog explains my belief system on that).

    Yes, it’s complicated and I’m confused about what to do… I don’t have time to waste at this age.

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  116. “this a PARODY of feminist shaming language? nothing genuine coul dbe this perfectly cliched”

    Yeah, and pretty off the mark. Roissy’s basically a guy who can write pretty well, enjoys winding people up and mistakes his sheltered shallow attitudes for some kind of inconoclastic courage.

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  117. lovelysexybeauty: I once asked a very smart female commenter OMW on her advice to young women. She said something about being near a military base, and meeting guys there.

    If you can filter out the losers, especially from among the younger enlisted guys, you are likely to come across lots of in-shape, alpha, practical, traditional guys.

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  118. vino:”Actually, in Polanski’s case, even if he never gave the girl booze & drugs, it’d still be rape.

    The law says that kids don’t have the capacity to make certain decisions, such as enter into contracts, get married (below a certain age), drink alcohol, or more relevantly, consent to sex.

    Giving her the booze & drugs worsens his crime.”

    —yes, vino, staturay rape is illegal. I just think the lines are arbitrary and don’t make sense; consent would be better judged on sexual maturity, not age. However, I can see the problems in determining that, so I’m not a vehement crusader on the issue.

    It was rape because she said no and he forced on, ignoring her.

    The age thing makes it statutory, but it would be rape even if her age had been 25.

    the drugs/booze/anal sex make it debased.

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  119. Question guys:

    Seeing a girl who has offered to buy me a power drill (which I desire and need) for a housewarming gift.

    She is on unemployment and does not have daddy paying for things or money saved (i.e. she is truly poor), but wants to buy her man the drill he wants regardless of price.

    The one I trule need and desire and is best is about $200. The decent one, which will do the jobs ok but isn’t the one I want, is $100.

    She has asked me to tell her which drill I want. Which do I tell her? There is no question she will buy it for me, no matter what price.

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  120. Lurker,
    Say thanks for the thought and buy your own drill. That will possibly save you from one day having to dodge said drill or having to go out and get one anyway once it ‘disappears’.

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  121. Except for the crazy workaholics, no man would want to stay longer in the office than absolutely necessary. Even if he doesn’t go home immediately after work, there are activities outside. Maybe a drinking session with friends. Some sports. A little shopping, movie catching or just exploring. Hobbies or meetup groups.

    However, having a scowling and shrieking harpy(and pesky kids) at home is a HUGE incentive to NOT go back home that early. And as with most married men, your solo activities outside the workplace are severly curtailed than your bachelor counterparts. Hence, doing OT is a good, convenient excuse to go home late. Even surfing the net on the work pc, or having a chit-chat session with your co-workers, is a much more enjoyable affair than facing that bitch wife (who unsurprisingly will also withhold sex).

    I see this all the time with married men at my workplace. A tragic sight, to say the least.

    Do not ever get married. You do not need to sign a contract to get pussy. Also, you save lots of money which can be used for better things.

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  122. completely off topic, just showing the extent of my wiseness and foresight.

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2009/09/those-are-going-to-be-some-long-bus.html

    only white women are beautiful.

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  123. lovelysexybeauty: I once asked a very smart female commenter OMW on her advice to young women. She said something about being near a military base, and meeting guys there.
    If you can filter out the losers, especially from among the younger enlisted guys, you are likely to come across lots of in-shape, alpha, practical, traditional guys.

    This is like the 5th time I’ve seen advice like this this week. I swear, my father has somehow attached his soul to the entire interwebs.

    Lurker, if you let your poor, unemployed gf buy you a drill, especially the more expensive one, then you are banned from ever again ranting how stupid and fiscally irresponsible women are.

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  124. al, lol. That’s like saying, “If you let your black friend wear gangsta clothing and talk like he’s from the ghetto in order to get you into a black club, you are banned forever for complaining about black people acting anti-social and uncivilized.”

    Just because you can profit off stupidity doesn’t mean you can’t deplore it.

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  125. Just because you can profit off stupidity doesn’t mean you can’t deplore it.

    That is so mean. And here I was feeling all warm and fuzzy towards you after your denunciation of rape.

    [I know, you don’t give a hoot, I’m a [insult], and ps my refutation wasn’t logical. It’s still mean.]

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  126. A: “[editor: a real alpha would be banging 3 women simultaneously, and wouldn’t much give a shit about promotions at the expense of fun,”

    B” as he wouldn’t be looking to marry a status whoring golddigger.]

    Why are A and B mutually exclusive?

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  127. Lurker, get your gf to buy you the more expensive drill (it will save needing to upgrade in a year or two) and then have her over for dinner a few extra times. If you eat in, it doesn’t have to be expensive for you – and if she’s really in love, she might even cook if she knows how…just make sure you pay for the food. That way she won’t go hungry while she makes up the cost of the drill.

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  128. I have to agree with Nihilist here, and add that even if Roissy is doing if for shits and giggles just to wind people up, there’s gotta be some kind of underlying psychology behind his reasoning. Why else would he post so many entries? There’s definitely something behind it. Nothing that can’t be solved with a blow-up doll, really. They never gain weight, always look the same, their makeup doesn’t come off when ya fuck ’em.

    Roissy, stop spending money on model Starship Enterprises and go buy a blowup doll or four.

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  129. Spunk, since guys started selecting women for long term relationships based on short term criteria, things have gone to hell. Instead of marrying the less glittery decent girls, guys are putting rings on hoes.

    Decent women are going the way of the dinosaur partly because of feminism, and partly because of men falling for it. To be a good woman, you have to be going against the grain, and women for practical reasons, generally won’t do that. To maximize their options, they’re going with the flow so they can get a man before they’re too old to have kids…and if being a slut is what it takes, and managing a marriage like a whore/client relationship is how to keep a man holding up his end, that’s what they’ll do.

    It’s brutally simple.

    Don’t believe the sob stories from the guys. Every last one of them is in their sick client relationship because they want to be. They’re either psychological betas or sellout betas who don’t want to be the alpha male in their home because being the alpha is too hard. It’s easier to make the money and hand the paycheck over to the hoe than to actually lead.

    So whether you marry or don’t, don’t let betas who selected hoes fill your head with the poison of hopelessness. If you are butched, not only will you be attractive to women in general, you will be walking, talking, bitch handling hoe repellant.

    It’s a kind of filter…Women who want to power struggle with you simply won’t win. They will show their inner hoe or harpy and you will kick them to the curb. You do not tolerate bad behavior, you won’t end up having to tolerate it.

    Bonus, you’ll be attractive to women who are looking for a strong partner, and not a hoe retirement plan.

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  130. on October 1, 2009 at 4:47 am unlearning genius

    @Ghost of nicole,

    “Women who want to power struggle with you simply won’t win. They will show their inner hoe or harpy and you will kick them to the curb. You do not tolerate bad behavior, you won’t end up having to tolerate it ”

    This is a myth .. human beings are always fighting for power. Only people with extreme dependent personalities will act totally subservient towards you .. Why would any man want to invest anything in such a woman … The truth is that unless you are playing way below you are level, the power balance will most nearly be not that one sided. What you people call shit tests are nothing but moves in a power game .. In nearly matched power games, you will end up losing a few moves and winning a few .. in the balance you better be up ahead .. This is the true nature of ANY human association, at least the worthwhile ones.

    All this women were designed to be totally submissive creatures idea is total bull … I do not want anything to do with such a doormat woman .. on the other hand some women are beyond manipulation (they have ALL the hand) and you will feel the lack of power in this case very severely

    Power games are real fun and in the end it is this that makes life worth living. Never settle for a weaker opponent as an excuse to safeguard your ego and fear to learn and improve.

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  131. Polanski should go to jail,

    and mothers who take their daughters to movie studios so that they can become movie stars are kind of pimps themselves.

    child movie stars are either discovered or born into well connected families. the first case is statistically equivalent to findind a diamond.

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  132. unlearning genius – your problem seems to be your “totally” binary thinking.

    A woman who wants to be “totally” subservient is rare, and a psychological basket case besides. By women are wired to be attracted to a dominent man, and to be somewhat subservient to him.

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  133. Unlearning, there’s power exchange and then there’s power struggle. Dating a woman shouldn’t be a power struggle period. It should be like a probationary period during which you’re checking each other’s long term potential, until it settles into a long term relationship in which there’s a consensual power exchange.

    On the fringes, there are some women who are better suited for the leadership role. If their man should become ill, any woman needs to be able to step up. These are supposed to be the exceptional cases though, not the rule.

    So any power gaming has to have limits. A woman who is even *trying* to beat you down is one you shouldn’t be with. It’s not about expecting her to be a doormat. It’s not tolerating any harpy/hoe like behavior.

    From the woman’s side, if I feel like I’m being goaded into meanness and disrespect, I get out. Being a decent woman who is not a harpy is a pretty good filter too. I’ve never been in a bad relationship more than 6 months. At the worst, I’ve been in relationships that turned dysfunctional, but the time between the negative games beginning and the breakup was never more than a few months…usually days or weeks.

    Basically what I was saying is that like goes to like. If you behave like an actual man, nobody will be able to get close to you but actual women. From among them you can pick the ones you want to keep around. The ones who don’t make the cut get kept at a safe distance, and this can mean either brushing them off or pumping and dumping depending on your personal morals and goals. If you’re not acting like a man, then you’re only going to attract women who are looking for someone to exploit or abuse.

    It works the same way for women. If you put yourself out there to be a sucker, you will find a scam artist who’ll oblige. If you conduct yourself like someone with standards, only people who meet those standards will penetrate your defenses.

    It’s not always 100%. Some scam artists are pretty good. I haven’t seen a case yet though, where there were absolutely no red lights. When those hints of bad behavior came up, they should have been nipped in the bud, and kept getting nipped until the woman either fell in line or got lost.

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  134. The male-female relatioship is like the Captain-Sergeant one.

    The husband has the final decision on everything, though he leaved the day-to-day business to the wife, who runs things with stellar competence.

    Also, the man is the family’s public face. The family votes along his political lines, follows his religion, and the children are raised in accordance with his values.

    He is ultimately responsibel for the family’s success, but duly consults with his wife on important things. (Behind every great man there is a strong, supportive woman).

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  135. on October 1, 2009 at 12:00 pm msexceptiontotherule

    Well now.

    Finding a guy who’s in his mid thirties to mid forties can be easy, with the relaxing of the requirement that he’s never been married to include those who lost their spouse to illness or accident (and I mean a real accident that wasn’t something staged to get rid of the bitch on the part of the husband.), divorced men who haven’t been married more than one time – though you should probably take enough time to assess for behavioral issues that point to them as being bitter because they made a poor choice in who they married and then subsequently felt like they’d done everything they could & it must have been the wife who had made it all go to hell in a handbasket. If the guy says he’s separated, you might as well move on right there, since most of the men who will say that are going to turn out to be married and just want to be able to get action from other women because they don’t like their wives anymore.

    Personally, it’s not the end of the world, or even that terrible if they come with their own children, that’s totally fine – for those who are not sure if they see themselves giving birth to any children, sometimes they turn out to be great moms when they meet a man who got primary custody or has an arrangement where he has the kids living with him a fair amount of the time. Plus, he probably won’t automatically expect any more kids just because he has a new wife.

    My mom thinks that my sister in law isn’t doing the right thing because she puts the kids first above all, which the fact that all three are aged 5 and under, and new to both roles of wife and mother in the grand scheme of things gives an opportunity to learn still. The reason my mother thinks the way she does is because she and my father have always done things as a team, because unless the marriage is strong and that means that the priority must be on ensuring that they are first with each other, everything else they will do – parenting, etc – will not succeed and there will be problems that simply won’t be possible to solve because they’re divided in their married relationship to each other.

    I say that a married couple should of course be primarily concerned about how things are between them, particularly in times where they’re separated for long periods and one never knows exactly where the other may currently be located for security reasons (what can I say, I’m dealing with the rest of my life ahead as a military widow in present reality) – it can be difficult, but there’s nothing more important than the time you have to spend together, when you have it. Kids, well… that was tabled so that we could get more established and not have to worry about whether or not we could afford a kid in the manner we wanted to raise them with a house we owned and money for sports or lessons in whatever kids would be interested in, clothes and shoes that weren’t handmedowns, braces, and family vacations…Sometimes, life can have an entirely different plan that sneaks up on a person. My mother doesn’t really know what to say to all of that. I think she doesn’t want to risk saying the wrong thing, knowing that she usually will do that trying to talk about these matters with me. I should call her and thank her for doing that for me, because not saying something is the best way to get it right in this situation.

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  136. on October 1, 2009 at 2:22 pm HappilyMarriedFemale

    “Men will often work longer hours to *get away* from aging wives who are no longer attractive to them.”

    I agree! I saw a lot of that at work so I always told myself that I would make sure that my husband could look forward to coming home to me.
    Although I don’t know about the “aging wives” bit. I’m black and in my family as long as we don’t get fat we don’t really start to “age” until we’re in our 50s or 60s. And I’m 6 years younger than him.

    We have been married for 5 years and have 2 kids (we breed like rabbits, I know!) but he still rushes home to me every evening. In fact, he drags his feet out the door in the mornings, comes home for lunch, AND rushes home in the evening. He loves his job but the truth is… he just prefers being here. He works from home on the weekend and evenings to make up the hours.

    Lots of good sex (at least once a day), excellent food, and no nagging. And wear sexy underwear everyday and sleep naked or in a negligee. And don’t let yourself get fat. Pregnancy is not an excuse!
    It’s really that simple, ladies: If he’s not horny, make him a sandwich.

    An added bonus: your man will be well aware that he is one of very few married men who got a BJ before breakfast. Your worth to him will go through the roof and he’ll treat you accordingly. Trust me, they know how much the other men are suffering.

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  137. ”””””’An added bonus: your man will be well aware that he is one of very few married men who got a BJ before breakfast. Your worth to him will go through the roof and he’ll treat you accordingly. Trust me, they know how much the other men are suffering.”””””’

    Interesting point when I tell woman about my life with my wife they try to compete but fall short. Very difficult to compete with perfection.

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  138. So true. I’m a military guy and many a supervisor has made our entire shop work 12-14 hour shifts just so they didn’t have to deal with their wives. If you busted out pics of your naked girlfriends and shared stories about her with them, they’d become your best friend instantly.

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  139. Men work longer at work to screw younger hotter females on at the job or to have the resources to screw prostitutes.

    Married men are prostitutes best clients.

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