The Alpha Male Body Language That Attracts Women

The scientific evidence confirming the tenets of game continues rolling in like a tsunami, washing away shrieking feminists and clucking betaboys like so much worthless debris. (Here is the original paper.)

Practicing Certain Poses Creates a Sense of Power

New research indicates that holding a pose that opens up a person’s body and takes up space will alter hormone levels and make the person feel more powerful and more willing to take risks.

Gee, now where have we heard this before?

“These poses actually make you more powerful,” said study researcher Amy C.J. Cuddy, a social psychologist at the Harvard Business School.

Fake it till you make it? Not the whole story. I’ve long contended that game is its own status. That is, that the poses, behavior, words and attitude that game teaches is power in itself, and thus attractive to women. This study proves my contention. When you run game, you are becoming more powerful.

The opposite also proved true: Constrictive postures lowered a person’s sense of power and willingness to take risks.

To gather the balls to hit on women, you need to assume a posture that infuses you with ballsiness. Uncross your arms, lower your drink, open your legs, thrust out your chest, lift your chin a bit and make your crotch the locus of your chi.

In the study, researchers randomly assigned 42 participants, 26 of them women, to assume and hold a pair of either low- or high-power poses. The high-power posers spent one minute sitting in a chair in front of a desk, with feet resting on it and hands clasped behind the head, and, in the other pose, they stood, leaning forward over a table, with arms out and hands resting on the table. In both poses, the participants took up space, an expression of power not unique to the human world. For example, peacocks fan their tails to attract a mate and chimpanzees bulge their chests to assert their hierarchical rank, the researchers noted.

“These power poses are deeply intertwined with the evolutionary selection of what is ‘alpha,’” wrote the researchers in the September issue of the journal Psychological Science.

More and more, my definition of what is the alpha male is being proved correct.

The low-power group sat for one minute with their hands clasped on their thighs, legs together, and also stood for one minute with arms folded and legs crossed.

Low-power = beta. There may be a point, though, at which a man is so incredibly alpha that he can afford to display some beta poses without paying a cost in lowered attractiveness to women. Sort of like the handicap principle.

Those who held the high-power poses saw their testosterone increase, while their levels of a stress hormone, cortisol, decreased.

Chicks can smell testosterone. It’s why they moisten their panties for the male victor in a fight. Testosterone and cortisol are the two hormones to watch. The ideal level for attracting women is high T and low C. Few men can achieve that mix.

The high-power posers were more likely to risk their $2 for the chance to double it: Eighty-six percent took the gamble, compared with 60 percent of the low-power posers.

Chicks dig risk takers. Expendability is a DHV.

This study is part of a field of psychological research called embodiment. The basic idea is that the mind/body relationship is not a one-way street, with the mind giving orders for the body to carry out. Rather, the body also influences the mind. Other studies have indicated, for example, that holding an expression, like a smile, can alter one’s mood, as can a hunched posture.

People who claim that game is trickery designed to fool women into thinking the man is alpha, are wrong. Game will actually alter your perception of yourself and create a positive power feedback loop. Game even alters hormone levels.

Schubert has studied the bodily feedback produced by fist-clenching. After making and holding a fist, men reported feeling more powerful. Female subjects, by contrast, had less hope for control after making a fist.

I often find myself balling up my hands into a fist when I’m thinking about something that makes me angry.

The researchers attributed the results to the idea that men associate their own physical force with power, while women associate it with powerlessness…

Women derive their power from their sexiness, and their ability to engage in verbal subterfuge. Physical force offers them no advantage.

The study also showed that practicing these power poses before going out translates into feeling more powerful hours afterward. So, stand tall, silverback, and pillage the pussy that is rightfully yours.





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  1. duh, really?? never crossed my mind!

    but wtf is “fake” doing there, just improve your posture, rather than faking your posture

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  2. Glad to see science finally catching up with the PUA community.

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  3. It’s been known since the advent of Neuro-Linguistic Programming that the position of the body influences that mind. Tony Robbins then repeated Richard Bandler’s work back in the ’80’s.

    But hey, glad to see that science is finally catching up.

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  4. The Roman rhetoric teachers taught orators to assume specific poses, postures to be more effective. I wouldn’t be surprised if those were the same poses the scientists were looking at in their study.

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  5. Scientists need to be learning from the PUAs.

    Just as they learn from outstanding athletes who define one end of the spectrum, they need to watch the best PUAs in action and see what it is they do.

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  6. these are my favorite type of posts.

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  7. a few photos would be great with this post. or a link to a Spot the Alpha post

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  8. This just in: PUAs cast doubt on sciences take on gravity. Dude with blowout and white belt falls to his death.

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  9. This is one of the reasons that body language is one of THE prime fundamentals of seduction. Yet, so many guys tend to pay little attention to practicing this on continuous basis. It’s all about the fundamentals…

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  10. Military basic training keeps recruits standing at attention for hours every day for weeks.

    The attention position, head up, shoulders back, body straight, feet shoulder width apart, is very arrogant.

    It’s part of the whole mind-bending process.

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  11. This jives nicely with the earlier-referenced study on better dancing form and techniques which showed that the more “open,” expressive and powerful movements were found much more attractive by women than the constrictive, reserved foot-shuffling that sheepish guys half-perform.

    Open dance + open stance = high T, no fear, high confidence.

    I suspect that just as vigorous free-form dance opens up the vascular system (thus better delivering and utilizing testosterone), the right at-rest postures can do the same. I think the relaxed feet-spread, hips forward, shoulders back stance is perfect for engaging a girl, and allows for incidental, comfort-building contact to happen.

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  12. Head held high and back (or even cocked to one side a bit), lots of direct eye contact while talking.

    And for god’s sake don’t wear sunglasses (the MOST beta accoutrement there is!).

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  13. on October 6, 2010 at 12:55 pm Ascending Alpha

    Even more evidense that proves game theories. If I was a grad student, I would read your blog just for ideas to use in experiments.

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  14. The scientific evidence confirming the tenets of game continues rolling in like a tsunami,

    Yup. Basically every day I could find another study evincing some concept of evo psych. Of course, the authors either wave their hands and explain it away using some leftist tripe or simply ignore the implications concerning feminism and racial egalitarianism.

    Good thing New Media has subverted PC stupidity.

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  15. on October 6, 2010 at 1:32 pm bring back monarchy

    @OneSTDV

    Has it really, though?

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  16. You know that you are walking like an alpha when you can feel the lusty stares of plenty of women. Posture matters.

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  17. I think generally you are right about virtually everything. I absolutely love your blog. But … the inevitable but …

    I think your view of Alpha is overly simplistic. But perhaps that’s because what I am thinking of is a notch higher, a Sigma in Vox Day’s vocabulary.

    You have equated alpha characteristics with muscular strength or physical power. In my opinion, the most LSE individuals I encounter are the most muscle bound muscle heads in the gym. I don’t know about all of them, but i know a very large number of female trainers and coaches and none of them show any interest at all in muscle bound men. There are 15,000 men in one of the gyms I belong to, and I can’t think of a single one who can look me in the eyes.

    On the other hand, the most intimidating and most respected men I have known are not muscle bound. And they are not as common as muscle bound men. They are generally fit, but not always. They are generally strong, but not always. But, they know they can crush you if they have to. They know if you try to beat them up, people they hardly know will eagerly will come to their rescue, anywhere they happen to be. They genuinely don’t care what people think. They know they can win over anyone in a few minute’s conversation. People make over them and try to attract their attention If they walk into the room a little late, the speaker or instructor always mentions them and tries to act like they’re buddies. Clerks in stores give them things. Women are attracted. Men are intimidated. When they get out of your way, they say, “Pardon me, sir.” They are fearless. They do what they want.

    Muscle development is not a bad thing, and people who build muscle do enhance their self esteem. But can you imagine what it would be without the muscle?

    Perhaps this isn’t fair. but in my mind, physical power is a generally an indication of sign of Low Self Esteem. If I find myself a tight situation, I never worry about people who built muscle in a gym. If they built it on a ranch, that might be a different issue.

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  18. @Yohami

    the faking is there for those that aren’t naturally alpha or have alpha posture. Those guys will need to conciously be aware of their posture – thus ‘faking’ it. natural alpha just has good body language, and really can stand any way that he likes. he doesnt ever have an awkward pose.

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  19. This works well for interview prep as well. I used to get nervous before interviews and my inclination was to tighten up my posture. Went to career services at my school and was told I would relax if I opened up my body. It indeed does work.

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  20. “Chicks dig risk takers. Expendability is a DHV.”

    I would disagree that alfa poses increase risk taking.

    Most risk taking (the expandable man – lose all or gain all -kind of risk) is done under social influance by betas. Betas are shuned to take risks for women and alfas.

    Beta poses make individual more likely to break under social influance while alpha postures make one more restraint to follow outside influance, keep ones cool and do ones own thing. At least for me.

    However I would like to say that from my experiance risks taken during high testestorone alfa posing time tend to be more revarding than those that are taken during beta posing. Here I don’t mean just approaches, but also risks like shooting, throwing or even gambling. I dont’t believe it but I have to say from experiance that alpha poses affect dice rolls.

    It could be selective perception or self-fulfilling prophecy or it could be that:

    Fortune is a woman. She favors what women favor.

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  21. Recent personal history proves all of this correct.

    I stand differently; walk differently; talk differently; when you start to behave like you own the world, it starts to come true.

    I can feel a palpable difference. I’m just more powerful.

    Success breeds success. Fake it until you make it.

    Absolutely.

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  22. Sort of like dressing for the job you want to have…

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  23. @Robert. Yeah, he does over simplify alpha (and lots of other things) but that is part of the power of this blog. The over-the-top, over-simplifications make the point clearer. It is especially effective because it counters the over simplifications of the otherside of these arguements.

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  24. I disagree that expendability is alpha. I think not worrying about expendablity is alpha. Actually dying when you could have saved yourself is not actually alpha.

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  25. Love this!

    “People who claim that game is trickery designed to fool women into thinking the man is alpha, are wrong. Game will actually alter your perception of yourself and create a positive power feedback loop. Game even alters hormone levels”.

    EPIC COOLNESS. TIS TRUE. The confidence is there and it matches up with the smiles.

    I always like the dude to sit down with his arm extended as if the woman was sitting there. “he is expecting someone”.

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  26. This is ancient wisdom. William James was teaching the same story a hundred years ago. I’ll bet you’ll find it in Ovid’s Art of Love, too, and maybe the Kama Sutra for all I know.

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  27. Church girl update:

    I’m getting flaked on and I think she has made the decision to eject entirely. After escalating the situation last week by telling her to cancel her other lunch plans to hang out (at 11:30 a.m. – she responded by texting that she would have cancelled her plans, but she didn’t have enough notice), I went out of state for 6 days and since I’ve been back, the dynamic has shifted.

    We had plans for lunch today. She texts at 9:45 a.m.:

    I have to cancel lunch today. I have a conflict that I forgot about. Its been a hellacious week. Sorry

    Me: huh. alright. later

    Her (instantaneously): Succinct. Huh. Later

    So, I’d like to send out a big fuck you to all the assholes on this site that I’m sure are happy to be reading this. I never said or did anything inappropriate or suggestive to her. We didn’t even shake hands. She has evidentially made the unilateral decision to bail. I’m going to drink a lot.

    Regards, Sidewinder

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  28. Lunch? Faggot.

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  29. Be. Irrationally. Confident!

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  30. Clit,

    We’re both married. I have kids. All previous meet ups have been during the day. The plan was actually to go back to her place to work on some songs together. It was HER suggestion during our last get together. I do appreciate the support, however. I realize I have been a giant fag during this entire ordeal.

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  31. Sidewinder: to all the assholes

    I’ll take it as a compliment!:-)

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  32. Morsellaux, you old-time photo piece of shit, I’d like to send you a personal fuck you for your complete lack of assistance. My wife and I have no real relationship whatsoever, and I’d never met anyone like this girl in my life, and I’ve lived in several different places and dated or otherwise known a lot of different girls. Thanks again. Put your werewolf photo back up you asshole.

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  33. @Sidewinder
    “I’d never met anyone like this girl in my life,”

    Nah, we’re all pretty much the same.

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  34. None of this shit works if you are under 5’9″

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  35. Laura, I can’t go 100% hate on you because you initially provided me with some decent advice. However, you are completely wrong if you think all girls are the same. You haven’t dated them. I have. Several long term relationships. Sure, they all have a great deal in common, and may even want the same things in a guy to a large extent, but what they have to offer to their man is very different girl to girl. I’m sorry you’re in your 30s. Its not my fault. You have a husband that you love being around so you can fuck off just for that.

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  36. Eyes: relaxed but alert. Don’t keep your eyes wide open like a deer in the headlights.

    Eyebrows: they can betray you. Keep them also down and relaxed. Don’t raise them too much as doing so makes you look scared and alarmed.

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  37. not that I really know what’s going on here, but just from these posts sidewinder you sound like a weirdo

    this site and other anti-feminist readings have really opened my eyes about the world, but at the same time, judging from a lot of the comments on these webpages, a large number of the readers/proponents seem to be bitter/unpleasant people that I know I wouldn’t want to be around in real life

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  38. @Morsellaux
    @Sidewinder:” to all the assholes”

    “I’ll take it as a compliment!:-)”

    This is for Gorb….SEEE this is what I mean by less complicated less controversial and difficult.

    A breath of fresh air.

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  39. “People who claim that game is trickery designed to fool women into thinking the man is alpha, are wrong.”

    People who claim that makeup is designed to fool men into thinking women are attractive, are right. A lesser man asserting himself could no fucking way be compared to some fugly in clown paint. Oh yeah, dont forget fake tits, hair weaves and extensions, butcheek implants, girdles, fake eyelashes, coloured contact lenses, padded bras, botox, collagen injection and fake nails. All accepted form of trickery.
    Am i correct to assume the “people who claim” are women and bitch ass herb dudes?

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  40. @Somebody

    I’m going to nitpick here, but there is actually another layer to it. A soldier or recruit standing at attention generally has their feet together and their arms tucked into their sides. Why? Because they are generally acknowledging a superior.

    The more general posture of standing in formation at ease (http://www.new-bern.nc.us/images/MarineAtEase.jpg) has their feet apart and the arms flared out the sides. You’ll probably spend more time standing like that over the course of basic training and a military career, and, like you were getting at, the sense of confidence and esprit de corps you get standing in or near a good unit in that posture is palpable.

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  41. sidewinder shut your whiny beta hole

    marshmalloux, yeah you old guy gtfo you look like an albino zombie motherfucker fuck off

    and laura stfu im sick of ur married hag ass

    lololololololzzzzz

    and nicole fuck off b4 u even get in here fat ass

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  42. Ewwwwwww… You’re all such pathetic losers, especially CH, lowering himself in public in a desperate attempt to get some female’s stinky, hairy twat. Thank god, I’m only attracted to men, that way I can save a lot of money by fucking on the cheap, plus I can fuck nothing else except smoking hot, muscle-bound beefcakes in their twenties day in and day out. But you losers can go sleep with your ugly fat bitches and keep spending your money on nasty, dirty cunt. I bet you all still jerk off. Being around females sucks monkey balls. Try some hot man ass for a change. Bye. XOXOXO

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  43. Sidewinder – Just move on and don’t let it bother you. At least you learned something – there’s no point in asking these mopes for advice.

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  44. Johanson,
    I accidentally stumbled on a gayboy dating website recently and all the men were majorly built. Is that typical for the gay community, are you all really into weightlifting?

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  45. on October 6, 2010 at 5:21 pm Hungry Hungry Hippos

    “Game even alters hormone levels”

    This actually really wouldn’t surprise me. What do you feel immediately after gaming a chick and doing well? What do you feel immediately after gaming a chick and doing really poorly?

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  46. “New research indicates that holding a pose that opens up a person’s body and takes up space will alter hormone levels and make the person feel more powerful and more willing to take risks.”

    Haha, so the fatass guys out there are the most alpha by default.

    But on a serious note, your posture will definitely get the attention of the girl you are approaching and not have you starting off in the negative.

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  47. Is looking in the mirror, pretending you’re as suave as Ric Flare, talking about how awesome you are an effective way to get your motors running?

    [Editor: Yes. And while you’re posing, be sure to flip a feather boa over your shoulder and stick your butt out. Slap butt and make a burning sound as you say “what are YOU looking at swan!”]

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  48. @Sidewinder
    Just wait a week or two before tossing a casual “what’s up?” text. If you see her in church in the meantime then don’t ignore her but don’t approach her either. Talk to other cute women in her sight if there are any there. Be casually aloof towards her but pleasant and cool around everyone such that she’ll rethink her hesitation and will want to approach you next. It’s her turn. Otherwise you’ll be chasing her and look desperate.

    Remember, as Laura points out, this one’s not special regardless of how big a crush or delusions you have about her. You can take her or leave her, you’re the prize not her.

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  49. P.S. Don’t drunk text or drunk email her either, but you knew that.

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  50. on October 6, 2010 at 7:23 pm French Connection

    “New research indicates that holding a pose that opens up a person’s body and takes up space will alter hormone levels and make the person feel more powerful and more willing to take risks.”

    Sleep like an alpha by night, walk like an alpha by day.

    More of these posts!

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  51. There are definitely traditional alpha men that are not popular with women. Look at Bill Gates or certain presidents. (no offense to Bill he seems nice enough, but I don’t think he’s a ladykiller)

    How can people like M so easily differentiate between the various writing styles? It isn’t obvious to me. He must be really clever.

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  52. @donlak

    learning and correcting your posture has nothing fake about it

    its like eating healty

    the fake issue here is for the losers that want to keep being themselves, same demographics who wants a ripped ab without making excersice

    “fake your abs until you get them!”

    yeah right

    “the really muscular guys can eat whatever and they keep their abs”

    Nope

    “real alpha dudes dont can stand in any pose, there is no pose that would seem akward for them”

    false

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  53. Single men everywhere would do well to memorize this article. Body language knowledge will save you time, money and heartache!

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  54. Has anyone here read a book called Love Signals by David Givens? I came across it when I was drafting a post and was wondering if it was worthwhile.

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  55. Laura. No shit.

    Now please stop posting.

    You are so simple minded and vapid.

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  56. Sidewinder, still taking is as a compliment.

    The lack of assistance, yea, go back to that thread (or several). Which reminds me to never offer any to you next time you have some “problem”, you ungrateful POS. I think the young lady is way smarter than she lets on.

    Done with ya.

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  57. Morsellaux,

    What the fuck are you talk about old man? You keep saying these vague things like “he doesn’t even see the trap” and shit like that, and you never explain what you are even talking about.

    So what is so smart about this young lady? What is your theory? Girls that like dudes do not same day cancel plans. It just doesn’t happen. Even if she was interested, but because of her husband or my wife or kids, or whatever, she didn’t feel comfortable, she would still meet and try to talk about it.

    This was a total “you are irrelevant to me” diss. It doesn’t make any sense in light of the past 3 weeks, but it is what it is. She’s over it. Doesn’t like me. She’s not smart at all. She has no plan but to put the brakes on me. I give myself a little credit, I think my nonchalant response (“Huh. Alright. Later”) was the best possible response given the extent of the diss, but her quick followup is puzzling. (“Succinct. Huh. Later.”) She’s gone. I’m drunk. Give me something old man. Anything. Shit, even tinderbox gave me something and I think he told me before that she would lead me to hell.

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  58. Sidewinder, ok, I’ll make an exception. I am so damn nice it is sickening. LOL!

    trap = Head over heels emotionally charged fuckup
    smart young lady = She smelled the above instead of the musky exciting alpha smell. During the timeout, she realized that.

    I know that is not what you WANT to hear. But my granma told me to be honest.

    You are welcome.

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  59. @Morsellaux
    “Sidewinder, ok, I’ll make an exception. I am so damn nice it is sickening. LOL!

    trap = Head over heels emotionally charged fuckup
    smart young lady = She smelled the above instead of the musky exciting alpha smell. During the timeout, she realized that.

    I know that is not what you WANT to hear. But my granma told me to be honest.

    You are welcome.”

    Brilliant! lol!!!! I love the “you’re welcome.”

    I know, I know, we’re not suppose to converse. hehehe!! I always break rules.. only some times. heheh!!PLEEEASE don’t ban me!!!!

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  60. on October 6, 2010 at 9:42 pm Junior Gorilla

    Sidewinder = owned.

    The first time you try these things it doesn’t work because you’re doing it wrong. Beginner’s luck doesn’t apply when you have this oneitis. Go Game Ten Other Church Girls.

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  61. Hey, I scored a number tonight!

    Actually, she gave me her number 3 years ago, but I just stuck it in my desk drawer at work and forgot about it. Anyway, I saw her today, for the first time in a couple years, and I got her number again. I just walked up to her and said, Hey, arent you Olivia? Give me your number, I’d like to talk to you. THen she handed it over without hesitation. I’ll probably call her Friday.

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  62. Morselaux,

    Ok, let’s say you’re right. For some background, in the course of our 4 conversations in the past 3 weeks, there has never been any discussion of “us” or shit like that, in fact, if anything, she may be spooked that it went to far to the other extreme, with her asking if I wanted to go over to her house “to play guitars” after our last walk. But regardless, let’s say you’re right. What did I do wrong in interacting with her?

    More importantly, what now? My plan is to do nothing. No communication with her whatsoever. If she approaches at church, or sends a text, I won’t ignore, but I’m not initiating anything.

    If her goal was to make things less awkward, her diss today was totally counter-productive. What’s her plan, never talk to me again? Pretend like we werent’ communicating every other day the past 3 weeks? I seriously don’t know what she was thinking. If I had to guess, she’s going to come back and try to reschedule or something, or come back with strong LJBF vibe.

    I realize this is onitis, emotionally charged, blah blah blah…I’ve picked up enough chicks, including my wife. I don’t want to be a PUA. I WANT this girl. Help me not fuck up.

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  63. Cat Patrol, good work. What led to the three-year hiatus?

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  64. Sidewhinner

    You say, “She does not like me. She is not smart at all.”
    Idiot. Since when has gina tingles (upon which everything else depends) been modulated by smartness?
    You have blown it beyond all hope of redemption. She is the most desirable woman you have ever encountered -right – on several continents and now her hind-brain is sure that you are a geek-boy with a twitching needle-dick who deserves to disappear.
    Remember to cut lengthwise and deep.

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  65. Junior Gorilla,

    Look junior, play all you want, but the end game comes down to onitis. There is no avoiding it. You can immerse yourself in the pickup club culture and learn all the rules, but when your bell gets rung, you’re going to be playing for keeps with one girl. That’s the way it works. Fuck everyone who says otherwise

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  66. Maybe she wants to stay married, sidewinder.

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  67. Rum,

    She is actually very smart. I was just responding to Morsellex. What do you mean by cutting length-wise and deep?

    Look, I couldn’t go hardcore on her because she’s married and I’m married. Its a huge natural stalemate where nobody is going to say anything suggestive to the other.

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  68. Sidewinder, I won’t call you names, though it is tempting.

    … oneitis. Sigh…

    5 rules:

    1. You don’t have a relationship with her yet (and from the looks of it, you never will with her or any of like-her if you won’t smarten up)

    2. There are other women.

    3. There are other women.

    4. There are other women.

    5. There are other women.

    Once you get these into your blood stream, get back to me and we can talk.

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  69. Feh,

    That is naturally going to be her safe, default choice. If I look at how things have gone, it started with me initiating first meeting. She then sets up second meeting, and at end of meeting asks if I want to go over to her house. I decline. Next day, I direct her to cancel her lunch plans to hang out and she texts back that she would have, but she didn’t have enough notice. Then I go out of state for 6 days.

    I think she got spooked over the 6 day break. But her husband is a huge cheese dick. This won’t change. I’ve seen the stupid shit he posts on her facebook page. I am sure it embarasses her and her lack of response to him confirms this.

    But even if she decided to back down, I’m a little hurt that she did this without any discussion with me. Actually, this lunch diss today could be a lead in to an in-depth conversation. Depends on what she does next. If we ge together again, I can’t see how we can avoid a discussion.

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  70. Morsellex,

    The problem with your advice is that you assume that I am acting around her like I post on this board. This is not the case. I keep my game really tight around her. I use this blog as a sounding board where I think everything out, but in the real world, I’m pretty alpha with her (note my directive for her to cancel her lunch plans to hang out with me and her positive response). I am not the lovestruck fag with her that I am on here. I am working this. For whatever reason, over the 6 day break, she has backed down. What do I do to combat this?

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  71. “Hey, I scored a number tonight!

    Actually, she gave me her number 3 years ago, but I just stuck it in my desk drawer at work and forgot about it. Anyway, I saw her today, for the first time in a couple years, and I got her number again. I just walked up to her and said, Hey, arent you Olivia? Give me your number, I’d like to talk to you. THen she handed it over without hesitation. I’ll probably call her Friday.”

    Hey, I scored a pussy tonight!

    Actually she gave me her pussy 10 years ago, but I just stuck it in my bedroom at home and forgot about it.
    Anyway, I saw her today, for the first time in a couple of years, and I got her pussy again. I just walked up to her and said. Hey, aren’t you my wife? give me your pussy, I’d like to fuck you. Then she handed it over without hesitation. I’ll probably stop pining for the church girl now.

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  72. And Morsellex,

    What is your oneitis deal? Tell me exactly how I should smarten up. Call it what you want, but she is the target. Help me fuck the shit out of this bitch. I am committed to the mission.

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  73. I assumed there were ghostwriter simply due to increased volume of posts. Nevertheless I always find the posts informative, so, whatever.

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  74. Stop bullshitting yourself, sidewinder. I don’t know all the details, but in Church Music Girl you barely have a conversation partner, let alone a soulmate.

    Besides, adultery game isn’t game, it’s sociopathy and sadomasochism.

    Use game to improve your marriage. I’ve walked in your shoes. I went through a dry patch with my wife for a year, and the married woman I was flirting with turned out to have a stronger spine than I did even though she was just as unhappy. She eventually said no. I still wanted her. Then we moved. As I look back now, her refusal was the gift that made me return and fix things with my wife. The behavior that got me close to the other woman was a combination I then turned on my wife. It turned everything around. For the other woman, things didn’t work out happily at all: she left her husband, lived as a single mom, tried to date at 30 or so, started drinking, and from what I hear, remains unhappy to this day.

    Stop fucking around.

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  75. Sidewinder…

    Stop navel gazing. Do as I say. The length of your breaking of contact with her is dependent on 5 rules. Until you breath them like air, no point in doing anything else.

    Now, hopefully, we can get back on topic…

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  76. When the time comes to act out the final result of frustrated one-itis, you need to cut your blood vessels lengthwise to achieve the desired endpoint. If you cut them crosswise the bleeding will stop pre-maturely and you will wake up in an ICU with your care givers giggling about your terminal loser-dom.

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  77. Morsel-oldman,

    I swear to you: I will not contact her. If we talk again, it will be as a result of her contact. I follow the rules of game to a T. See my text response to her flake today. She responded immediately and I sent no response.

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  78. Feh, a good alternative. Sometimes we see things clearly in retrospect.

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  79. Oh, and to stay on topic, body language is powerful. One of CH’s suggestions is to not to turn immediately to face the woman you want to attract, especially if she’s 8+. Don’t be doctrinaire about it. Take your time. Then when you turn to her, do it slowly, make firm eye contact, and smile like a bemused, cocky sonofabitch.

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  80. Side,

    Chill out. In six days she probably started going on the rag. If she’s hot she probably never really had to check her mood swings. Just try to keep fun around her and do things that reassure her that you don’t like her so much that you’ll go cuckoo for her when she’s unsure about what she wants herself. Game when married requires a delicate touch.

    If it makes you feel better I’m regaming a chick that did the same to mean year ago. Since i already had a mistress during this it didnt crush me so bad. I just waited and kept joking with her about how any future lunches with her have to be at titty bars.

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  81. Feh,

    Thanks for sharing that story, seriously. Sounds like you have walked in my shoes. There is no “problem” with my marriage. I get all the sex I want. My wife is nice looking. We just do not have a connection. We never have, going back to our honeymoon and before I recall observing this fact and then trying to suppress it. It just isn’t there. I would divorce her but I have two small kids with her.

    I would be content going through life, just living one drunken weekend to the next, enjoying my kids, except that I met this girl and she is like no one I have met in my entire life. As much as I would like to, I can’t dismiss her. I don’t know what the right long term thing to do is, but I cannot lose her. It will seriously fuck me up.

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  82. Jerkdogg,

    Dude, I love the titty-bar line and I am going to use it (if I ever get the chance). Thank you for offering something constructive. Her flaking today is catastrophic, but I just can’t see how she can drop it 100%, given the last 3 weeks. If I had to guess, I think she will try to reschedule something and will want to TALK about what is going on. Maybe I dont know women, but I couldn’t just drop something like that without some discussion. Its too crazy.

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  83. “Chicks can smell testosterone. It’s why they moisten their panties for the male victor in a fight.”

    1000% agreed.

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  84. Rum, I get it. Just because I’m zeroed in on this one girl does not mean I will let her disrespect me. She flaked today and I called her out with a three word response. She responded and I sent nothing. I admit that I’m oneitis to the core with this girl, but I won’t let her know that. I’ll spend the night drunk blabbing with you sons of bitches before I start groveling to her. She flaked. I’m done. It’s on her now. I will not contact her.

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  85. Side

    Definitely game the wife too. I don’t think you should cheat in your case since wife puts out well.

    No chick has a halo around her…sounds more like grass is greener syndrome than a need to play out of the box to regain hand

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  86. Jerkdogg,

    I have complete hand. I can get my wife to do anything sexually I want. And I don’t discount this…if I were to switch to this other girl, maybe she wouldn’t be so open to submissiveness.

    But its the life part of the relationship, the other 95% of the time, where this other girl is 100 times more in synch with me. In a 40 minute conversation, we covered more ground than my wife and i have covered our entire relationship. Its not that I want to discuss brain surgery…its just the ability to talk to someone about a movie, the news, the economy, music…

    I’ve lived in a number of different cities, and dated or otherwise known a lot of girls…I’ve never connected with a girl like this girl. I know it sounds kooky or supernatural or something, but its true: sometimes you just know.

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  87. High T and low C?

    Lift weights and cut out the caffeine.

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  88. Vodka & Meat

    Thank you. Honesty looks good on a girl.
    I learned this lesson a few years ago when I made an effort to kill the entirety of a hot college students snake collection. It is a long story and I am not proud of everything I did but when I finished -there were several of her precious pythons found hiding in the bushies around her house & the street with broken glass-wounds. (Brick to cage)
    So, she runs to my place in tears, her perfectly oval brown eyes drenched in real tears and desperation. She was sobbing, “Why did you do that??!!!
    She was a chrome steel JAP, btw. Unlikely to take shit from anyone much less a causal yet nearly lethal assault on her beloved slitherly pets.
    “How can I make it up to you?, she cryied.”
    The scene spoke for itself.

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  89. Saying no thanks to a complicated and painful divorce will not “seriously fuck you up,” sidewinder.

    She’s just some f’in girl. There are thousands like her, at least!

    Imagine some drunk weekend you direct game propose sex to this other woman and she keeps the text message. You have just given her complete hand over your entire life. Think of the damage she could do. I know plenty of adult children of divorce: it affects them forever, often in ways they don’t perceive until way later. Why would you bare your belly, and your family’s belly, to that sharp a knife?

    Instead of knocking back beers on the weekend, take up the gaming of your wife as a challenge to your ability to create a “connection” with her. Eventually, with habit, it could become genuine. Then you’d really have achieved something that a huge plurality of couples fail to achieve.

    The “succinct. huh. later.” line was her frustration with your lack of consistency. You were probably talkative with her up to that point, empathetic, etc. She loved that. Then you swung hard with the alpha move and invalidated whatever connection you had built up with her. You’re using alpha moves as if you were following a predetermined script. This blinds you to the real needs of the interaction.

    I’m out.

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  90. Is CH really writing a book?

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  91. Here are two great explanations by Entropy.

    James Bond:

    Ed Norton

    The Ed Norton example is worth noting because it re-enforces the concept that game is learned. If you can start to project a more confident image, then women will respond accordingly.

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  92. Side

    I gotta agree with feh on most of this. There’s reasons to split and there’s reasons to get it on the side but having a crush on a chick while youre in a semifunctional marriage isn’t one of them. Humans are not naturally monagamous after two kids so what you’re feeling is almost universal. Nobody feels that spark after a few years … nothing’s wrong with you.

    If you start banging this chick itll be a blast. But your euphoria with this chick would last a couple years tops and the itch will start again.

    Trust me. Only do this shit if you’re marriage is really fucked up.

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  93. “I give myself a little credit, I think my nonchalant response (“Huh. Alright. Later”) was the best possible response given the extent of the diss, but her quick followup is puzzling. (“Succinct. Huh. Later.”) She’s gone. I’m drunk.”

    I think you offended her. She doesn’t think you are attracted to her or she thinks you don’t respect her.

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  94. If a guy hasn’t kissed a girl, had a gf, or is a virgin by a certain age should he just kill himself? What age do you all think all these things should be accomplished before suicide is the best option for him?

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  95. Alpha body language is all about attitude. If it is about height and muscles then only few would be able to be an Alpha!

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  96. on October 7, 2010 at 1:08 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””john
    If a guy hasn’t kissed a girl, had a gf, or is a virgin by a certain age should he just kill himself? What age do you all think all these things should be accomplished before suicide is the best option for him?””’

    Suicide is the best option for everyone.

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  97. to take the risk necessitates taking the risk’s consequences, this cannot be faked.

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  98. on October 7, 2010 at 1:25 am Gunslingergregi

    Fucking hot chicks can be a viable option if you lack the guts.

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  99. Why to commit suicide; make others to commit suicide. There are thousand things to live for! If you cannot make someone’s life a hell, you are a failure. If you cannot do something good, you are all capable to do worse!

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  100. on October 7, 2010 at 2:17 am David Collard

    Good grief, you guys overvalue women and sex with them.

    Suicide?

    Adultery?

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  101. Vodka makes me laugh. She excites me. Perhaps I should insult her a bit? I think it will make her hot for me.

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  102. David Collard: Not really. If you are 25 and haven’t kissed a girl, had a gf, and obviously are a virgin, life isn’t worth living. That isn’t overvaluing girls and sex with them. That is just living a fucking miserable life which isn’t worth living.

    If you are getting pussy left and right it easy to say shit like that. If you never have even done the shit that was supposed to be accomplished in junior high, you would want to kill yourself too.

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  103. on October 7, 2010 at 2:29 am Gunslingergregi

    Actually john the guy who has done nothing has a hell of a lot more to look forward to than the guy who has done it all.

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  104. on October 7, 2010 at 2:35 am David Collard

    john

    I didn’t get “pussy” until I was about 25. I was a very good looking man, but I was religious and too busy studying a subject I loved more than women at that time (science).

    Women are mostly not worth the trouble. They are pretty dull on the whole. My wife is an exception (sometimes).

    I lost my virginity to a newly married girl. So I have cuckolded another man. I have done just about everything with my wife since. I married a virgin, so I got to deflower a woman too.

    One woman is enough. You can explore her slowly over the years. Recently, she started wearing toenail polish. Last time I fucked her, I told her that fucking a chick who was wearing toenail polish was another thing I had always wanted to do. If you wait patiently, marry the right girl, and game her panties off regularly, it will all happen eventually. A good wife will let you live out all your fantasies.

    You can only fuck one woman at a time, and they are all much the same model. Marry the right girl. You only have to find one.

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  105. on October 7, 2010 at 2:48 am Gunslingergregi

    You can dream about what it would be like to do this and this and how great it might be.

    I can’t he he he

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  106. on October 7, 2010 at 2:53 am David Collard

    I have one thing I would still like to do to a woman, but morality forbids. I think my wife would be up for it.

    No, not anal. I have done that.

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  107. Always knew Sidewinder was beta. His politics gave it away.

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  108. on October 7, 2010 at 3:06 am Gunslingergregi

    Woman are up for anything dave there is no mystery they will not help you unravel.

    You may want to hold back something though.

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  109. on October 7, 2010 at 3:20 am Gunslingergregi

    As has been noted before by audrey the men on this blog tend to be vanilla in sex compared to sexual fucking deviates. I think probably a good thing.

    Because if we wanted to be completely disgusting the woman would have no problem with that either.

    Woman really have no line. It is sick shit.

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  110. John, you’re right, it is hard to relate. I have a hard time imagining how it is possible not to kiss a girl before age 25–I kissed my first girl at age 5. In the first grade, I’ve got a “girlfriend” and though it was all largely innocent, her parents though things are moving awfully fast. So they moved to the other end of town to switch schools.

    Whether you, or you are asking on behalf of a friend, can you provide some backdrop? It’s most curious.

    In any case, the whole thing can be rectified rather quickly if the young man is normal (functioning equipment). Requires some relatively modest amount of money and googling Nevada chicken ranch.

    Committing a suicide because of women (or lack of them thereof) is also something I have a trouble with to conceptualize.

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  111. Harmonica, I haven’t noticed his politics, but his oneitis is a big red billboard advertisement of his beta core.

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  112. I have to laugh… my 1st grade gf’s brother told me later that their parents subjected her to a torturous interrogation that may remind of a scene for Marathon man (“Is it safe?”):”Did he play a doctor?”, “Did he play a doctor??”

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  113. for Matahon… = from Marathon… , ugh… can’t say preview is my friend as there is none.

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  114. on October 7, 2010 at 5:26 am David Collard

    Women will do all sorts of weird stuff for a man they really want. I had a girlfriend who was the biggest snob in college, and she became REALLY submissive after I started to dump her.

    A man must be decent with women. There is nothing they won’t do to please the right man. So he must, as you say Gunslingergregi, hold something back. My wife sometimes asks me to fuck her anally, but I have refused her for the last few years. Catholic morality and fear of Hell.

    I have seen women do things on Internet clips that I could not believe. A significant proportion of women obviously love being abused sexually.

    john, I didn’t have sex until I was 25. And things worked out for me. You only have to find one woman. And, learn “game”. Seriously. It has even helped me in my marriage.

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  115. on October 7, 2010 at 5:36 am Gunslingergregi

    Hey john to tell ya the truth if you have the guts to do it life doesn’t get better.

    You are always gonna be you limited by a body.

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  116. on October 7, 2010 at 5:41 am Gunslingergregi

    Yea at first they say it hurts when you fuck them in the ass then they resent it when you don’t.

    Don’t open pandora’s box you can’t close it.

    You better still fuck her in the ass every once in a while.

    You got her to do it.

    You now owe her don’t ya think?

    he he he

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  117. on October 7, 2010 at 5:48 am David Collard

    I fucked her up the arse about 20 times before I married her. Afterwards, only a few times. And not at all in the last few years.

    I don’t want to go to Hell. No kidding.

    Speaking of not going to Hell. Don’t kill yourself, john. You will end up in Hell.

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  118. on October 7, 2010 at 6:02 am Gunslingergregi

    There is no hell I sold my soul to the devil and nothing happened. he he he

    There is no god he has done nothing for me.

    It is all bullshit.

    If you can do it john then god must have built you to be able to do it.

    Would a god send you to hell if he built you to be able to kill yourself?

    It just doesn’t make sense does it.

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  119. on October 7, 2010 at 6:06 am Gunslingergregi

    The real problem john comes when you can’t kill yourself.
    It is pretty bad shit.

    That is where I have been.

    Being stuck on the earth.

    If that is the case you might as well go bang some ho’s and try to have a good time since you are stuck here.

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  120. For a virgin boy arse fucking can be difficult; therefore, he should start in a systematic manner i.e. leave for later phase. Tactically, arse can be better option for a man when the poon becomes cave.

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  121. on October 7, 2010 at 6:09 am Gunslingergregi

    Maybe I just need to be smoking more weed.

    I hear california is making it legal.

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  122. sidewinder, i find all the namecalling olympics rather entertaining, but i’m going to take a different tack here and introduce the possibility that you’ve been reading way too much into this interaction since square one.

    my radar was already pinging in your description of the starbucks incident, in which you described a perfectly normal, platonic interaction** with two college students; from your pov, it was as though only the thinnest gossamer threads of decorum were holding the lusty coeds back from jumping your bones right there, the aroma of their sopping wet pussies mixing with the scent of coffee to produce what would really be the best part of waking up.
    ahem.
    anyway, that description pretty much marked you as one of those guys who reads interest into situations where … how to say this nicely … well, it ain’t.
    i mean, there is certainly more than a trace of truth to “assume the sale”, but assuming the sale doesn’t obviate the need for actual sales tactics.

    soooooooo… i’m thinking that, just maybe, this girl really never wanted to fuck you in the first place, and maybe even (shocker!) thought you were just a nice, non-aggressive, platonic friend with whom to work on myoozik. this last being an impression that you constantly bolstered with your “i’m not going to make a move” attitude.
    ever think of that?

    in any case, sex is a thing such that you have to strike while the iron is hot, and this particular iron has long since succumbed to newton’s law of cooling.
    let it go my freng.
    the iron is only going to heat up again if she finds herself single, with kids to take care of, and your income starts looking pretty good to her.

    **in fact, the words with which she left you (“it was very nice talking to you”, iirc) are a pretty clear signature of sexual non-interest.

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  123. Guns, “Woman really have no line. It is sick shit.”
    –> Right and wrong my man, it’s more like the line is right at the beginning. Its more like a moat than a line lol

    In any case, a lot of you guys have some screwed up instincts. Like, would you take a sled dog, and try to be “good” to it by putting it in a nice comfortable padded doghouse? or would you take it out into the elements and let it get gritty and pull the sled, like it really wants to. Which way would it be happier? Its a sled dog, not a house dog?

    Same for a lot of women, we wouldn’t mind pulling a few more sleds as it were haha. The saddest part is all these guys who’ll expend so much energy in calling us bitches, and then when the cards are on the table they can’t even treat us like bitches.
    Sigh.

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  124. on October 7, 2010 at 7:39 am SIDEWINDER IS FUCKING RETARDED

    SIDE WINDER:

    SOME ADVICE.

    RATHER.

    SOME DEEP PHILOSOPHICAL OBSERVATIONS.

    CHURCH GIRL HAS NEVER HAD A SINGLE EMOTION TOWARD YOU. SHE DID NOT THINK YOU WERE SEXY. SHE DID NOT WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOU. SHE MAY HAVE THOUGHT YOU WERE A BORING BUT NICE GUY.

    EMOTIONLESS.

    UNTIL TODAY, WHEN YOU SENT THAT TEXT MESSAGE.

    NOW SHE THINKS, OH.

    THAT BORING BUT NICE GUY IS ACTUALLY AN ASSHOLE.

    GUESS WHAT FUCKWAD SHE NEVER WANTED TO SLEEP WITH YOU. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAINFULLY OBVIOUS TO YOU FROM THE START, AS IT WAS TO EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD.

    STOP YOUR WHINING SHITBALL AND REALIZE THAT YOU READ WAY TOO FUCKING MUCH INTO EVERY COMPLETELY NORMAL INTERACTION. YOU ARE FUCKING SOCIALLY RETARDED. THAT GIRL WHO GAVE YOU YOUR COFFEE TODAY? SHE DID NOT WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOU. THAT WOMAN WHO SMILED AT YOU ON THE STREET. ALSO DID NOT WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOU. GET THE FUCK OVER IT, GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS, AND STOP BEING THE BIGGEST DUMBASS THAT EVER HAPPEN’D.

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  125. on October 7, 2010 at 7:45 am SIDEWINDER IS FUCKING RETARDED

    DAVID COLLARD:

    SOME PHILOSOPHICAL OBSERVATIONS FOR YOU.

    YOUR WIFE WANTS YOU TO FUCK HER IN THE ASS.

    YOU DON’T.

    SHE’S CHEATING ON YOU.

    YOU FUCKED HER IN THE ASS 20X BEFORE YOU WERE MARRIED.

    GUESS WHAT.

    SO DID A BUNCH OF OTHER GUYS.

    TRUTH FUCKIN SUCKS BUT HOW ARE YOU SO DUMB?

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  126. Concentrating on core strength works well for any man and a need to know what are those strength is necessary. Showing aggressiveness may mean high testosterone but it can scare a girl. A well composed personality with right demeanour attracts girl and not aggressive guy making fist!

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  127. on October 7, 2010 at 8:05 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””’Same for a lot of women, we wouldn’t mind pulling a few more sleds as it were haha. The saddest part is all these guys who’ll expend so much energy in calling us bitches, and then when the cards are on the table they can’t even treat us like bitches.
    Sigh.
    ””””

    What sleds can you pull?

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  128. on October 7, 2010 at 8:11 am Paleo Cream Puff

    Posture doesn’t work for me. I need an exorcist to fuck off this Omega demon…

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  129. on October 7, 2010 at 8:23 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””on October 7, 2010 at 8:11 am Paleo Cream Puff
    Posture doesn’t work for me. I need an exorcist to fuck off this Omega demon…
    ””””

    lol I told my wife to get me the good sleeping pills maybe that will kill the demon.

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  130. on October 7, 2010 at 8:32 am Gunslingergregi

    ””””THAT WOMAN WHO SMILED AT YOU ON THE STREET. ALSO DID NOT WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOU””””’

    What?

    Naaa

    Like the other day.

    Chick from shop next door.

    Comes over in front of my door talks to woman out of view.

    Is doing poses basically sideview, rear, Showed nice tit look.

    As I am leaving sitting on my bike I catch her eye she holds contact and lights up like a christmas tree huge bright smile.

    Was none of that planned?

    Is it just in my head that she wanted to have sex with me?

    Are you saying woman don’t like sex?

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  131. @Gunslingergregi//

    If you think about sex round the clock that does not mean all women too think about sex round the clock. If she showed her tits to, it may you what you wish to see, not what she wanted to show you!!

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  132. If women does not wish to sleep with every random guy that does not mean she does not like sex, she may like it with some acquaintance and not with strangers. Sex pops up in the head of horny guys more than in those who are occupied with some work!

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  133. on October 7, 2010 at 8:45 am Gunslingergregi

    Naa man she really did want to have sex with me lol

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  134. Guns “What sleds can you pull?”
    –> Haha my dear I thought your supposed to be the one barking commands.
    You gonna ask the sled-dogs that question, too? Slippery slope theyre gonna be bargaining w/you for the top shelf dog food right quick, if you let them go there.

    Looking back Im pretty impressed by the things I’d do for a good man, who makes me feel like a woman lol

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  135. on October 7, 2010 at 8:48 am Gunslingergregi

    Or the chick that was “helping” me shop for movies.

    When my woman came up though she appologized to her about her intentions on me he he he

    I guess it was just innocent interaction eh

    lol

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  136. Men have propensity to misunderstand actions of women and that is why women laugh at us. All their actions may not be an invitation to ravage them.

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  137. on October 7, 2010 at 9:03 am Gunslingergregi

    Well I already did the lets fuck thing and got rebuffed so have moved on to just talking he he he

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  138. on October 7, 2010 at 9:04 am Gunslingergregi

    I am not a micro-manager barking orders. I instill a vision it either takes or it doesn’t.

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  139. Oho, I thought borderline personality disorder or bi-polar personality …something!

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  140. @guns
    I got you. Im more the type that needs to be tamed lol. The sled dog thing wasn’t mine, credit to my current man who describes me that way.

    Your the one who wants to have several women, right? Question, if you had multiple women how often would you be fucking each one of them?
    As a woman who actually likes fucking Im seeing raw deal written all over that one lol

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  141. on October 7, 2010 at 9:21 am Gunslingergregi

    Sometimes I do give commands but like I didn’t tell my woman to walk in with a sex outfit on tits hanging half way out does that mean she wants to have sex?

    Sometimes she asks for things in a nice way.

    Pretty sure I am not misreading that she wants to have sex.

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  142. on October 7, 2010 at 9:35 am Gunslingergregi

    Well you need more than one sled dog right?

    Can’t just have one bitch pulling it all.

    Its not fair for that analogy.

    What leader worth his shit ever only had one person to lead?

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  143. See thx for your honesty, lol
    I actually have a theory here, that lots of women would be ok with being polygamous wives … But they would all have to be the one’s with low sex drives, or who don’t really care very much whether theyre getting laid.
    Myself I like sex too much, I have a tendency to wear out guy’s in relationships. Truth be told if my man stepped out on me, like Doug likes to advocate, I’d be pissed because he broke a promise, but Id be more pissed if that cost me one less fuck. Haha lol

    Like, when my man is in his forty’s and can only get it up 1-2 times in a whole day? If he uses up his whole erection quota with some other chick, leaving me high and dry you damn bet I’d be in bed with some other dude right quick. Lol I’m a horny bitch, I need to get mine.

    Poligamy would only work if your bitches really dont like sex very much. (Or if your some kind of super energizer bunny 18 year old who can fuck twenty times in a day) Sorry my man haha

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  144. Guns I actually have a theory here, that lots of women would be ok with being one of many … But they would all have to be the one’s with low libidos, or who don’t really care very much whether theyre getting fucked.
    Myself I like sex too much, I have a tendency to wear out guy’s in relationships. Truth be told if my man stepped out on me, like doug likes to advocate, I’d be pissed not just because he broke a promise, but Id be more pissed if that cost me one less fuck. Haha lol

    Like, when my man is gettin older and can only get it up once or twice in a day? If he uses up all that with some other bitch, leaving me high and dry you damn bet I’d be in bed with some other dude. Lol I need to get mine.

    Poligamy would only work if your bitches really dont like sex very much. Sorry my man haha

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  145. I know I know Im a slut. Lol

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  146. Game? What’s that? Some kind of ghetto talk? Ugh.

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  147. I’ll bet you’re a dude.

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  148. on October 7, 2010 at 10:07 am Gunslingergregi

    Yea well do what you need to do.

    I don’t need woman who are horny to be horny I need woman who are only horny for me he he he

    Really though a diferent bitch a day is probably the actual ideal I should be shooting for.

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  149. Now sober and feeling much less pathetic. Thanks for the advice.

    Harmonica,

    I’m pretty apolitical and admittedly a greater beta. I probably come in on looks around 7, status 8.5, game anywhere between -5 and 5.

    Manyacapo,

    I don’t want to keep rehashing the same shit over and over with you. I talk to girls every time I’m at a coffee shop or bar or wherever. I am capable of determining which are just being friendly and those that are interested. I’ve dated a lot of girls, have been in several LTRs and have a pretty nice looking wife. You are just going to have to take my perceptions at face value because you obviously aren’t here to observe. I do not think that most, or even many of my interactions with women reveal some kind of deep-seated lust for me. Give me a break. The two girls at the coffee shop were just having fun and they thought I was cute. It was neither purely platonic or lustful longing. There’s a big grey area there, dude.

    And that’s what you don’t get about the church girl situation. It isn’t black or white. As far as her behavior is concerned, you may be completely right. She may be extremely secure in what she wants and has made the decision that absolutely nothing physical is going to happen with me. And that is also the position that I’ve come to, although I admit that I’m pretty weak on that decision.

    But on the feelings side, its more complicated. As an example, church girl has a friend that goes to church with her sometimes. Her friend is objectively better looking and outgoing. I have had no problem talking with her friend, the conversation is easy, and I don’t have any indication that she has any interest in me whatsoever. If I walk in, the friend will smile at me, or even wave. There is no disturbance in the force when she is aware of my presence. It is the opposite with church girl, however. She stares at me, she maintains total eye contact with me, she instinctively self-grooms and acts nervous…Again, I think this goes back to you having to take my observations at face value. Its not helpful for you to suggest that my observations are incorrent because we obviously cannot determine that after-the-fact on this blog. You just have to take my perceptions at face value.

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  150. Sidewinder is Fucking Retarded,

    The name says it all. I don’t deserve this level of attention. As objective as I can be, I don’t think you’re right. I definitely think its a possibility that she has never had an iota of attraction towards me, but if I had to bet money, I’d bet that she does have some attraction. It may be more accurate to say that she has never had an iota of an intention to be anything but platonic with me. That could very well be true.

    The other possibility is that we’re looking for different things: her husband is a fucking goof of a kid. She may just want to f a man, while I’m here being a fag about emotional connection shit. Just a possibility…

    But given yesterday’s flake, I’m not making any assumptions as to her feelings or intentions. I’m operating as if I’m pretty much irrelevant to her until she indicates otherwise.

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  151. lawyerjourno

    “If you think about sex round the clock that does not mean all women too think about sex round the clock. If she showed her tits to, it may you what you wish to see, not what she wanted to show you!!”

    http://www.heretical.com/toa/toa-s11a.html

    http://www.heretical.com/sexsci/index.html

    http://books.google.co.in/books?id=iTOzhZ5MElYC&pg=PA81&lpg=PA81&dq=man+is+only+intermittently+sexual&source=bl&ots=VtGmjsxO44&sig=d23_5Gua6Fq11e7wTqCM8MaxeiM&hl=en&ei=RdWtTJCBC4iecOCRsIIO&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAA

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  152. “Poligamy would only work if your bitches really dont like sex very much. Sorry my man haha”

    They can always fuck each other while the man takes a well-deserved rest.

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  153. Sidewinder,

    Your overt behavior has been OK but internally you have been way too twisted up, you’re lucky you haven’t really screwed yourself.

    Your oneitis is showing.

    I get the point, when you find someone you connect with intellectually in a really deep way, and there is also physical attraction, the infatuation can be shockingly intense and time-consuming. I’ve lived it. The thing to tell yourself in such a case is always “no hurry”. If there really is a special connection, it’s related to the essentials of who the two of you are, and isn’t going to go away or need to be conjured by game. So just chill out, forget about timetables, and go with what happens without trying to push anything.

    In the meantime, you should be gaming your wife hard, work on making your marriage as great as it can be. Then you will be in a position to do whatever is right with church girl without being overly influenced by neediness. (And “whatever is right” is very unlikely to involve cheating on your wife, if you are really doing your best to work on that relationship — there’s a temptation to neglect your marriage so that it will be unsatisfying enough to rationalize cheating, don’t do that.)

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  154. Polymath,

    Thanks again for the great advice. Its as if you read my mind. That is exactly the resolution I came to in my mind: if this connection is real and not some self-delusion, it exists independent of anything I’m doing and there is nothing I need to do. And if she wants to ignore it, or avoid it, I’m not going to try to coerce or persuade her otherwise.

    I think I got psychologically fucked up because I got on the wrong side of push/pull (i don’t think she’s doing this on purpose). Here’s general timeline:

    – good talk at church, old man stares me down
    – i set up walk to talk with her about old man and to discuss music ideas
    – she approaches next two Sundays at church and appears enthusiastic about talking with me
    – she invites me to hang out after church but I have my son with me and we reschedule
    – we hang out, she’s more comfortable, as I’m taking her to her car, she suggests that we can go to her house to play guitars. I get a little nervous and tell her that I can’t, but taht we’ll get together sometime to play.
    – very next day I hate myself for not jumping at the opportunity to hang out with her, and I direct her to cancel her lunch plans so we can hang out. She texts back that she would have if I would have given her more than 20 minutes notice.
    – I go out of town for 6 days.
    – I reschedule her suggested music session for lunch yesterday, and she same-day flakes.

    I realize that everything that she has said, done or suggested thus far may be completely innocent and consistent with wanting a platonic friendship. But it is at least a somewhat plausible possibility that she’s been struggling with some infatuation herself, and came close to acting on it. She orchestrated the second get-together without any suggestion on my part, and she suggested we go to her place to play guitars.

    So psychologically, I come back into town and think that I am the one that is going to have to fend off advances, and then I get a complete 180 degrees with her flaking and my hamster dies on the fucking wheel yesterday. Thank God she did not try to talk to me yesterday. I would have definitely fucked up.

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  155. Quick review of the new film “It’s Almost A Funny Story” based on the trailer:

    Guy in his thirties (mentor) tells a guy around 20 (whom he’s sharing a mental ward with) “I’d give everything in the world to be you” in the context that the older guy couldn’t expect to ever get laid with the kind of early 20s hotty he desires while the younger guy, if he could only find game, could.

    Now I shouldn’t pre-judge the entire film before its released, but I see a possible vicious feminist frame in that attitude. At least in “Scent of a Woman”, Al Pacino as a mentor was active in gaming hotties himself.

    In this film, the not-so-much-older guy, as the mentor, keeps coaching the younger guy on how to get laid but excludes himself.

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  156. Polymath (cont)

    But I do think i left myself in a good position yesterday. I was not overly hostile about her flake. I took my response verbatim from this blog. I think the “huh” expresses some minimal degree of surprise and/or disappointment. “Alright” signals that it isn’t a big deal. And “later” reinforces that she doesn’t need to give me an explanation or anything. I don’t think it will be interpreted as me being an asshole.

    Maybe I shouldn’t have ignored her response noting my succinctness, but what was there to talk about? The date that we weren’t going to be having?

    All things considered, I think I played it right, and now that I have my head together again, I can approach any future approaches by her without any kind of needy talk or explanation for her flaking.

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  157. @Sidewinder

    Best not to ever get nervous about anything. Do what you want to do especially when a woman suggests you come over. A guy doesn’t get too many repeat requests back to a woman’s place after refusing once.

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  158. on October 7, 2010 at 11:27 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””””namae nanka
    “Poligamy would only work if your bitches really dont like sex very much. Sorry my man haha”

    They can always fuck each other while the man takes a well-deserved rest.”””””

    Here is the real deal.

    It puts bitches in check.

    They aren’t thinking about fucking other dudes. They are thinking about how to please you better than the other chicks and how they can strive to be excellant.

    Competition.

    They know you can get other woman. They know you are fucking other woman and it keeps them honest he he he

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  159. @sidewinder:

    You say you are experienced with women, but then you say this:

    “its just the ability to talk to someone about a movie, the news, the economy, music…

    I’ve lived in a number of different cities, and dated or otherwise known a lot of girls…I’ve never connected with a girl like this girl.”

    You know, there are friends (usually male) that you go to for your talk about politics, culture, movies…whatever floats your boat. And then there are women to fuck.

    Don’t mix up the two.

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  160. Jerry,

    I don’t know about the invitation to her place. I assume that is where her husband lives, and something just didn’t seem right about going into another man’s home with his wife while he’s at work. I know that sounds like pretty arbitrary morality given my feelings towards his wife, but something inside told me not to go.

    The next day, something inside me told me I was a big fucking idiot and that I needed to move on her.

    As demonstrated yesterday, I am capable of driving myself completely insane trying to figure out what she may be thinking. I’m stepping way back. If something is there, I am confident that this will not be the end of the saga.

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  161. Thunear,

    I agree with you in theory, but are you married? with kids? I’ve found that as you get older, your work and family responsibilities make it so that maintaining meaningful relationships with your guy friends is tough because they also have the same responsibilities. It does make it more fun when I get to hang out with my friends, though.

    But when you’re married with kids, in your thirties, with a demanding job, your spouse is your default best friend. And judging from my parents, that continues for the rest of your life. When the fucking is over, or has lost its luster with time, it isn’t even a close call between my wife and the other girl. I’m not going to fagify myself in describing it in any depth, but sometimes you just know. It just clicks. I talk with the other girl as if we’ve known each other for 20 years, even though we’ve only started talking at any length 3 weeks ago. Its the weirdest thing I’ve ever experienced in my lifetime of male/female interactions.

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  162. @sidewinder: “It just clicks. I talk with the other girl as if we’ve known each other for 20 years, even though we’ve only started talking at any length 3 weeks ago. Its the weirdest thing I’ve ever experienced in my lifetime of male/female interactions.”

    Yeah, I’ve had that lots of times. Sometimes you find you click. And then you fuck. And a bit later you get bored of each other.

    I can’t believe you can claim that you’ve had lots of experience with women, and then write something like that.

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  163. Thunear,

    I think we might be talking about something else when you say “click”. When there is mutual attraction, the conversation moves along pretty effortlessly as a precursor to the hookup. But its different when the expectations are that hooking up is off the table. The emotional connection thing could be completely one-sided and she’s just being easy to talk to because she wants to hook up, I don’t know. She might otherwise think I’m annoying as shit.

    Keep in mind, I do acknowledge that I am being a huge fag, so your overall point is well taken.

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  164. This post speaks to what I believe to be the prime delusion of the human female. It is an ignorance that pervades all human interaction and causes much confusion and resultant suffering in both sexes: women want the winner!

    They will speak of compassion, equality, human rights, world peace, environmentalism etc. They will abhore violence amongst individual men and male-controlled nation states. Meanwhile, they will jerk off to guys like o.j. Simpson and fifty cent, not guys like ghandi or the dalai lama.

    Humanity needs to see an awakening amongst it’s female component. I believe feminism and game are both steps towards this.

    We need to see a day when women will concede that a man who dominates and humiliates his brothers in the field is what they want. They do not want losers, they want winners. You do not succeed with women by being a good-hearted, compassionate individual.

    Women will not fuck you because you are on a hunger strike. They will not fuck you because you do charity work. They will fuck you, however, if you put on a suit and start bossing around other men.

    I believe that the anger of the relatively intelligent, feminist-minded woman is rooted in her understanding of this fact and perpetuated by her inability to admit it to herself or anyone else.

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  165. @sidewinder,

    Your crush on this “girl” has happened to me (I’m a woman) about every 5 years during my marriage. It’s refreshing and energizing to meet an attractive man, whom I can share my thoughts with. With two crushes, I had to avoid them in order to stay in control.

    but, it always passes. Eventually, they become ordinary. I laugh, now, to think that I was once attracted sexually to some of my past crushes. ………..and I’m still solidly married.

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  166. @ anonymous,

    if your husband was spending his days exchanging notes with women on the Internet, would you consider him to be ‘solidly married’?

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  167. @sidewinder: “I think we might be talking about something else when you say “click”.”

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  168. @sidewinder: “I think we might be talking about something else when you say “click”.”

    So, we’re not we are talking about the same thing.

    It’s just that you somehow seem to think that no one has ever felt like this ever before.

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  169. on October 7, 2010 at 12:38 pm Gunslingergregi

    Questions for married men who work and wife doesn’t.

    Does she have a computer at home while you are at work?

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  170. Off-topic:

    Young college educated skank finds out that riding the carousel is not as empowering as Jacyln Friedman says it is:

    http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2010/10/05/done_with_sex_writing

    **yawn**

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  171. @ anonymous
    If you had acted on those two crushes then they might not have passed to ordinary. Crush might have turned to love, resulting in months or years-long affair or a marriage-ending situation. For women to have an affair is a riskier proposition than for a man to step out, for reasons that have been discussed at the Chateau before.

    Perfectly natural to have other crushes when in an existing LTR. For married people the smart thing is what you said, stay away when you feel you’re starting to lose control. Marriage is the deliberate decision to forsake all others, though temptation and attraction to others will continue to appear unbidden.

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  172. Death Vajra,

    Your comment @ 12:14 is fascinating and well said.
    Insightful observations like that (among other things) are what keep me coming back to this blog.

    I keep marveling at the fact that we have this free resource at our fingertips now, the internet, all this info for free every day, such a value that wasn’t around when I was much younger and could’ve benefited so much more from it than I can now.
    At least I am benefiting from having it now, so I appreciate that.

    Some may sneer that my outlook of humble gratitude & wonder is not macho enough, but fuck that, I think humble gratitude & wonder is one of the key elements to being happy (despite all the reasons one has to be unhappy).

    Maybe a man values the capacity for humble happiness more after he grows beyond the self-loathing egomania of craving the attainment of the status of ‘greatness’.
    Or maybe it is mostly a consequence of being worn out by years of strenuous but ineffective efforts to get the external conditions he wants in his life. I don’t know.

    Meanwhile, it is great to be able to check in every day and read all these interesting, entertaining comments from a variety of people.
    Now I just gotta avoid being a junkie about it, “put the crack pipe down”, keep turning away from it enough to go create a great life for myself in the real world.
    I bet a lot of people have that struggle.

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  173. I think it is time for a book titled, Theory of game … or theory of pick up. throw all the scientific principles in that book and summarize them into a coherent theory.

    I’d buy it

    Then another tedious comment. This post aroused my peculiar interest.

    More on being alpha.

    I think this concept is completely misunderstood.

    You can think all kinds of things about yourself, you can practice poses and holding your shoulders back and holding your drink, you can stand in an alpha pose and think, “what an alpha i am.” But until you convince the people standing right beside doing the same things you are doing that you’re an alpha, you’re not an alpha. Until your friends are intimidated by your mere presence, and secretly (or not so secretly) think you are an inconsiderate arrogant asshole, you are simply not an alpha.

    True alphas attract women and intimidate men. It is as simple as that. There is nothing wrong with imitating an alpha. I think that’s great. A lot of men get laid because it gives them the confidence to strike up a conversation. That’s enough to get you laid. But, if you are an alpha, there will be no doubt. Everyone will know it. Men will avoid you and women will use every opportunity to attract your attention.

    Although I tend to think of what you call alphas as Sigmas, the number is far less than 1%. I’m not sure it can be learned. But the attempt to learn is turning men into buff, scrubby muscleheads wearing skull T shirts and turning women into sluts. That’s not entirely bad.

    By the way, let’s put on a push to elect Mystery Man of the Decade.

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  174. @ anonymous,

    When you were dealing with these crushes, did you ever let the object of your desire in on what was going on in your head? Or did you keep both him and your husband out of the loop and just deal with it yourself, or with your girlfriends?

    I’ve made my peace with the universe. I think there is something extraordinary there, but the connection was not created by me, and I can’t persuade her of its existence if she doesn’t see it. So I’m stepping back. If its there, its been there for several months by now, and it will continue to be there.

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  175. Holy Jesus. Sidewinder needs to stfu. Maybe if he actually used alpha body language it would stimulate some actual testosterone production.

    Let this be a lesson to everyone. If you are a weak POS with no spine, you will look for quick fixes on a message board instead of actually making any real change in yourself that would make a lasting change in your reality.

    One-itis is psychologically unhealthy. It is a PROJECTION of your ideal onto another person. It is NOT reality. It is a symptom of true weakness and neediness and the other person does not want you to do it.

    Check yourself, fool.

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  176. I do all of this naturally and am very confident and am not afraid of mostly anything. I am still a virgin.

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  177. What about all those women whose body language is distinctively male? Do they become correlatively less sexy? Is that intentional?

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  178. Fetus Face

    I do all of this naturally and am very confident and am not afraid of mostly anything. I am still a virgin

    most burn victims
    are

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  179. @sidewinder

    Of course, that was supposed to read: “Yes, we are talking about the same thing”

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  180. If you enjoy fucking a woman up the ass, why wouldn’t you enjoy fucking a man?

    [Editor: Uh, because the body surrounding the anus of a woman looks much different than the body that surrounds the anus of a man. Duh?]

    It’s the same orifice.

    [So is a sheep anus.]

    Also, if you get a feeling of power out of fucking a woman imagine how much greater the feeling of power must be when fucking a man and turning him into your bitch.

    [This conversion attempt: FAIL.]

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  181. Pajamas Media (the big independent-conservative bloggers) is publishing more and more articles attacking feminism and the big Instapundit.com blog feeds them out to a huge audience (Instapundit is one of the top 10 most read blogs).

    This article from today exposes how a feminist wrote at the Daily Beast blog about how Iraq War vets are supposedly “bringing the war home” to their wives:

    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/stacy-bannerman%E2%80%99s-domestic-violence-hoax/

    The commenters there “get it”.

    Then again, the Daily Beast blog itself shouldn’t be so pro-feminist. We’ve been watching the destruction of the old feminist media and its too bad that some of the new popular blogs will be just as bad.

    Notice in the comment section of the Daily Beast article how so many vets and War on Terror Fans didn’t “get it” that the article was written from a victim feminist perspective and represented dangerous propaganda that could be used to make more laws against men.

    Somebody’s got to wake our military guys up.

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  182. on October 8, 2010 at 11:06 am Gunslingergregi

    jerry yea the soldiers need to wake up and get diferent woman.

    But really you already know it isn’t just soldiers it is all men.

    The laws are already in place.

    No shit right.

    We don’t have to imagine a future that is hell on earth it is already here for a shitload of men.

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  183. French film was recently marketed in the US called “Partir” – about a 40 something woman who leaves her husband who loves her for a better looking guy – as if in real life the other guy would be available to her at all. The trailers suggest the film is propaganda for France to change its divorce laws more to the financial benefit of women who want to leave their husbands when they fall out of lust:

    http://movingpicturesmagazine.com/Reviews/tabid/59/entryid/3971/Leaving-Partir.aspx

    At the end (the beginning) she shoots the husband.

    Cold rework of “Lady Chatterly’s Lover” which was a communist’s statement that all the British guys who fought in WW1 were impotent fools.

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  184. Jerry

    We’ve been watching the destruction of the old feminist media and its too bad that some of the new popular blogs will be just as bad

    hell yeah – them conservatives and mra’s
    really stuck it to The Left’s entrant for Presidential candidate waaay back in Aught ’10

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  185. I think I hate girls. Maybe its deeper than that. Maybe I hate the world and the way it operates. I hate it that my dorky ass can have any number of decent girls based on status factors that have very little to do with who I really am as a person, yet there is nothing I can do to have the one girl that I truly want. I don’t want some generic hot girl that is easily interchangeable. How can any man love that kind of person?

    I don’t want another fucking commodity. I want to connect to some person so as to not be alone in life, if but for a few moments. I realize that very few make it, but of those couples that do, it started with at least one person who was not willing to toss the other back as an interchangeable part. Call it one-itis. I don’t give a fuck. Fuck you. One-itis is why all you fucks are here to begin with. Or at least most of you

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  186. @Sidewinder

    One-itis is not your problem. It’s a symptom. If you really knew how the world operated then you wouldn’t be in this mess. Please do yourself a favor and buy some quality PUA reading material. Focus on theory for now. Read some books on self-esteem. And finally go here to have your mind blown.

    http://www.tc.umn.edu/~parkx032/NWL1.html

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  187. Pulsotic,

    Thanks for the link. I am in complete agreement with the author’s conclusions and have always believed that western, romantic love is an illusion, or at least a socially-constructed reality at most.

    I have never been “in love” with anyone, and this includes my wife and this church girl. I have no idea what that phrase even means, other than you’re supposed to say it to demonstrate your affection and commitment to a particular person. I analyze relationship issues by trying to establish what are objective facts and not associating key words or socially-significant concepts to explain them.

    The objective facts are that I want this girl in every way. I want her time, body, talent, attention…everything. It is also objectively true that i am psychologically fucked up by this. i do have this self-awareness. And I imagine that being stuck in a marriage where there is no connection has created an idealized reaction towards this church girl where I believe there is a legitimate connection.

    The point I’m making about one-itis in general is that it is unavoidable. It doesn’t make sense at the outset to be focused on one person, but assuming that a ltr or marriage is something that is important to you, you are going to attach certain expectations to any potential LTR or marriage, and when you find someone who lights up those expectations, you are going to devote your energy towards that target. Fighting eventual one-itis is like fighting nature: you can’t win. Evo-psych has programmed us to want to be with females, and it isn’t just so we can bang them for 15 minutes. Human attachments towards mates and children are biologically functional behaviors.

    Regarding self-esteem, I think I may have the opposite problem. I’m a little too competitive and always lookinng for my next conquest or achievement. But a big ego takes a lot of fuel, and I probably need to downsize the ego quite a bit.

    But I agree with your post, and I know I’m fucked up and I just can’t seem to get my feet under me in this situation. I get some peace of mind by reminding myself that it was not through my efforts that me and this girl ended up in the same church and ultimately began talking, so if something is there, it should exist independent of my actions and I should be comfortable taking a breather. But I’m not. I’m just tolerating the discomfort and hoping that I don’t do or say something pathetic, stupid or too revealing at church tomorrow.

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  188. Pulsotic,

    Thanks for the link. I am in complete agreement with the author’s conclusions and have always believed that western, romantic love is an illusion, or at least a socially-constructed reality at most.

    I have never been “in love” with anyone, and this includes my wife and this church girl. I have no idea what that phrase even means, other than you’re supposed to say it to demonstrate your affection and commitment to a particular person. I analyze relationship issues by trying to establish what are objective facts and not associating key words or socially-significant concepts to explain them.

    The objective facts are that I want this girl in every way. I want her time, body, talent, attention…everything. It is also objectively true that i am psychologically fucked up by this. i do have this self-awareness. And I imagine that being stuck in a marriage where there is no connection has created an idealized reaction towards this church girl where I believe there is a legitimate connection.

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  189. Pulsotic,

    Thanks for the link. I am in complete agreement with the author’s conclusions and have always believed that western, romantic love is an illusion, or at least a socially-constructed reality at most.

    I have never been “in love” with anyone, and this includes my wife and this other girl. I have no idea what that phrase even means, other than you’re supposed to say it to demonstrate your affection and commitment to a particular person. I analyze relationship issues by trying to establish what are objective facts and not associating key words or socially-significant concepts to explain them.

    The objective facts are that I want this girl in every way. I want her time, body, talent, attention…everything. It is also objectively true that i am psychologically f’d up by this. i do have this self-awareness. And I imagine that being stuck in a marriage where there is no connection has created an idealized reaction towards this church girl where I believe there is a legitimate connection.

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  190. Sidewinder, I’m a girl, and an (almost always) appreciative reader of this blog and I just wanted to say that I liked your rant. I think it was romantic, and I think most other women that I know would like it if a man felt that way about them. (Yes, they would want it to be from a man who has at least some spine or character, but this is where game comes in. There are also women who need to be negged from outer space. I know a girl who is so status-conscious that she admits that she only likes men when they act like they aren’t that interested in her. I’d advise any man I knew to be a complete jackass around her for best results.)

    With church girl, how have you been coming across in person? Confident, aloofish, witty, or a bit more open? one of the things that struck me reading your journey of fagification, if you will… is that if you’ve been talking with her in a pretty heartfelt way, your sms response to her might have been harsh or unexpected from her side. Her sms reads to me as taken aback. I respect (and get, I think) the idea of not letting her disrespect you or be flaky, but in the situation if she HAS been thinking about you and being attracted she might feel foolish, like you are different than she imagined, or it is no big deal to you after all. Just a thought. It would be interesting to see what CH would say about it.

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  191. Robert said:

    “Until your friends are intimidated by your mere presence, and secretly (or not so secretly) think you are an inconsiderate arrogant asshole, you are simply not an alpha.”

    “True alphas attract women and intimidate men. It is as simple as that.”

    “Men will avoid you and women will use every opportunity to attract your attention.”

    This is why the only other guy I can even talk with is my cousin, who is an Alpha. If you are a real Alpha, you will not have many friends, but a shit ton of women will want you. Just something to think about.

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  192. @Robert

    “If I find myself a tight situation, I never worry about people who built muscle in a gym. If they built it on a ranch, that might be a different issue.”

    BINGO

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  193. That is fascinating how using alpha male body language affects men at a physiological/hormone level, not just the psychological level.

    In relation to your more recent post about the Duke slut, I wonder if taking a large ride on the cock carousel and being liberated likewise affects women physiologically.

    Thank you for your duty and passion to the spirit of this blog, it is entertaining and educating.

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  194. The thing about posers is that they are fakes and easily unnerved into dropping their charade very quickly. Simply larfing at them, in their faces or giving them a condascending snigger will unleash a tirade of defensive projection in them. Fact is they just dont have the nuts to back up any of their psycho-babbling routines. Fortunately for them, most of the people around them, especially the women are posers too who think their charade is real. So it works very well in the la-la-land of societee.

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  195. Love all the scientific findings. Here’s my routine for feeling extra alpha: first drink a whey protein shake… Put on my ipod and listen to some Wu-Tang (the first album) Then do squats and deadlifts for like an hour… possibly puke. Go home have another shake, take a nap, and then hit the bar solo and talk to every girl that is hot!

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  196. Awesome post. Although this will make me think about my posture more often which will most likely make me seem more timid and irritable, but for the most part I’m a very open person. I think that men who are induced by a constrictive posture are the type of guys that feel out of place or that they have to seem on their proper behavior. Alpha males just don’t care. They throw themselves where ever they want.

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