Unmanliness

If you sit at a sidewalk cafe in DC and people watch you’ll eventually see hints of civilizational decline.

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mommy took our allowance

There I was enjoying a manly tap water when something so magnificently wrong assaulted my visual field.  A father carrying a baby in a papoose that he wore across his front.

The front.

It would be bad enough if he were usurping the natural maternal role by hauling around his kid in the traditional style with papoose in back.  But the front?  He may as well have swished his womanly hips while he walked.

Seriously, grow a set and get some self-respect, man.  If you can’t find it in you to do it for yourself, at least think of society.  With the child dearth and populations contracting throughout most of the first world it might help if you weren’t a big flashing negative ad to young men to avoid marriage and fatherhood.  Put that papoose on the mother where God intended it to be.  If you have more than one kid, throw the other one on the dog.  There are big dogs you can fit with a saddle.

Which got me thinking.  Is unmanliness a harbinger of the fall of great powers?  I think it is.  Look around and it’s easy to notice plenty of ominous unmanly trends.

I’m beginning to hear men use trendy truncated miniwords like fab, deet, obvi, fave, vom.  This makes me vom.  My ears can only take so much foppery.  If you are a straight man who doesn’t tuck his junk in between his legs posing in front of the mirror then using these cutesy-isms is very homosex.  I expect women to annoy charm me with baby talk, not grown men.

Men (and I use the term loosely) with trendy truncated minidogs.  I’ve gone on about this before.  If your dog’s legs are missing a joint and it is shorter from snout to tail than the length of your forearm and lighter than your 10-rep maximum dumbbell weight, then you’ve got creampuff issues.  Trade it in for a pet that’s supposed to be that size, like a gerbil.

Gym “classes”.  No man worth his yarbles should take a spinning, pilates, step or, heaven forfend, stroller class.  Butch up and hit the weight room.  Try not to pee yourself when you see the squat rack.  Yoga is acceptable as long as you understand why you are there and situate yourself in the back row for greatest viewing pleasure.

Lovers’ quarrels.  It’s not unmanly to get into a fight with your girlfriend at 5AM banging on her apartment door piss drunk.  It IS unmanly to do all the above while sobbing “BUT I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE YOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!” over and over.  What happened to the good old days when drunk guys got into fistfights, not confessionals?

If you order your martini from a color-coded menu you may as well butter up your ass, funboy.  Men’s hard liquor drinks come in two colors — brown and clear.  And don’t drink from the straw.

When you canoodle your girl in public, do not bury your face in her lap and raise your hindquarters in the air like a cat getting stroked.  I actually saw this once.  This is about as unmanly as a man post-coitally resting his head on the chest of his woman.  You should be fitting yourself for a bra.

If you are a man bleating on about how great feminism is please do us all a favor and strangle yourself with your bloomers.  You are not sophisticated, evolved, or intellectual.  You are a sackless tool.

So there you have it.  I’m sure examples of unmanliness abound.  Is it a coincidence that as American women are becoming manlier American men are becoming softer, immature, and vaguely androgynous?  No, it is not.

Update:
Probably the biggest sign of the growing trend of unmanliness is the celebrity blog.  No man should write, read, or even tangentially discuss celebrity gossip, unless it’s to make a point to some hardened feminist how fame and power encourages men turn in their aging wives for young pussy.  Celebrities and the deets of their lives are black holes of irrelevance and idiocy.  It’s enough for one gender to get sucked into eight-balling celebrity sludge right into their limbic systems.  Men have a duty to shun it.  Gay men run the risk of flaming out into a red giant from this wasteful activity.





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  1. You’ve been reaching lately. First the SexBot thing and now this.

    Why is pilates gay but yoga is fine?

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  2. Very good post.

    I once saw two very yuppie late 30-something guys on a bike trail pushing strollers, while the wives walked in front. I coulda sworn the women walked with something of a swagger.

    Is unmanliness a harbinger of the fall of great powers?

    There is clearly a connection between men abdicating their proper role in society and things falling apart.

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  3. what in the world does “deet” mean?

    The worst word ever is “dunzo.” I think its supposed to mean “I don’t know,” but where that “z” comes from is beyond me. Luckily, I’ve only heard a smattering of girls use it, never a man.

    In light of that, shortening those words to crap like ‘vom’ and being used by a male is beyond the pale. The only shortened word (thats along those lines) that you should be allowed to say is “vag” short for “vagina” of course.

    And small dogs suck. I agree with you whole-heartedly on this post.

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  4. Cobiashi,

    “Dunzo” means done, like finished. Wait what, oh yeah I only know that because I have two younger sisters? Man, that was a close one.

    Roissy,

    To me it can all be traced to Keanu Reeves and the 90’s action movie star. You see I’m a child of the 80’s the last decade of real men. Arnold, Stallone, Van Dam, Chuck, and action Jackson. Men where allowed to be huge and grunt and all talk.

    Then it all changed with Speed, Hollywood stopped writing action for men and started putting pretty boys in the pics. Then all of a sudden women wanted their men to have swimmer bodies dictating how men should look. Lean and almost powerless (swimmer bodies).

    This all came to a point when the last Superman movie, dude looked like a model instead of the real Superman, on top of that, dude had to flirt and stroke the male director in a hot tub to get the part. We’ve gone from Conan to a gay Superman.

    Once Hollywood fell, the country was sure to follow.

    The end.

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  5. mczee: yoga = girls in leotards + lotus position. i give thanks.

    vk: i think you’re into something. will there ever be another dirty harry?

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  6. “Then all of a sudden women wanted their men to have swimmer bodies dictating how men should look. Lean and almost powerless (swimmer bodies).”

    Okay. But women aren’t in any position to demand stuff like that from men, market-wise.

    That’s why I love the fact that men are turning back to briefs, even though women hate it. There was a boxer fad during my high school days because the ladies liked it, but I’ve noticed that the tide has been turning. Women can bitch about “tighty-whities” as much as they want, but with the price dick is fetching these days, they really don’t have much say about it.

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  7. dude. my dad carried me in one of these. i think i have photos. my dad is a manly russian Borat. you shush now, or i will shun you.

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  8. irina – russian men are exempt from the androgynizing forces of western culture because they exude natural musky manliness. i’m sure your dad carried you in a papoose constructed of mudbricks, vodka, and straw.

    now please tell him to call off his operatives.

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  9. If you are a straight man who doesn’t tuck his junk in between his legs posing in front of the mirror then using these cutesy-isms is very homosex.

    I’d fuck me.
    I’d fuck me hard.
    I’d fuck me so hard.
    – Buffalo Bill, The Silence Of The Lambs, 1991

    If you order your martini from a color-coded menu you may as well butter up your ass, funboy. Men’s hard liquor drinks come in two colors — brown and clear. And don’t drink from the straw.

    I’m trying to remember if I’ve ever seen you drink a cranberry vodka. In the meantime I shall continue drinking Churchill Martini’s.

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  10. This post is correct. Pusillanimous is a word that often comes to mind.

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  11. Just like Irina, my dad carried me on those things too — and I have pictures of it. And my dad is a 4-star General in Brazil — nothing frou-frou about him…

    Aside from that, your post made me crack up. I have nothing against tiny dogs (and actually do have a straight friend who owns a teacup yorkie), but what you wrote was hilarious nonetheless.

    (I must note however, that the straight friend was a big success with the gay men in our building, who kept harboring hopes that he was in fact gay. Luckily, none of them made a move, as he was getting ready to punch one of them if they even suggested anything to him. But if you own a teacup dog, you’ll have to endure it, IMO)

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  12. …see hints of civilizational decline.

    that statement is a contradiction of the sheer definition of civilization. you’re clueless. it’s evidence of evolution and civilization on the incline. the post did a great piece on this last year.

    men in bjorns are hot. and men’s bodies a more able to support the weight. i hope for society’s sake that if you ever have a child, you care enough for it to want to transport it.

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  13. Adding a little to vks comments i’d also like to point out the other trend in movies – women who can beat up men, easily. And not even WWF style women like Chyna, I’m talking LITTLE GIRLS, in fact, little girls skinnier and weaker than your average little girl, like Kiera Knightly, many times over, or X-‘Men’, or Bond girls moving from confidently feminine to dominantly masculine nuclear physicists and hard-core spies (tempered somewhat in the latest though), or the worst of the worst, Angelina Jolie in Mr and Mrs Smith.

    Anyone see Die Hard 4? Why was that little Asian girl able to beat up guys twice her size? She didn’t even have muscles, it makes no sense. One can’t ‘learn’ to just ‘fight’ if you aren’t strong, anymore than someone with an IQ of 70 can master quantum mechanics. Even if Bruce was bent out of shape he should easily be able to take someone so manifestly weak.

    Another sign of civilizational decline – women becoming men.
    I blame Demi Moore.

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  14. An excellent post. Of course women and gays will find issue with it. Ignore them. My dad carried me in his arm………..like a football, or somtimes on his shoulders……….which I loved.

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  15. While you do say a lot of things that are true, I have a few disagreements.

    1. Yoga – actually you are the one who does not understand what the real purpose of yoga is. Of course, neither to most of the males, or for that matter, the majority of the females, in the class. So I guess I can’t hold this against you.

    2. Celebrity gossip – its probably not good to be writing a blog on it, but if your mocking celebrities and its funny, it can be entertaining. If your fawning them, there is a problem.

    3. These males you speak of, sure they might be a cause of the civilizational downfall. However the opposite of them, males like yourself, are equally responsible. But I’m not really trying to convince you, so we might agree to disagree on this third point.

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  16. Topshelf, how about you just speak for yourself.

    cuchulkhan, women beating up men in movies is for the benifit of men. It’s cute, funny and sexy. And it’s far from the most egregious improbable action movie convention.

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  17. Utterly bizarre. What are you overcompensating for, Roissy?

    Great powers generally decline and fall because the manly military gets too much power and influence, then starts civil wars and/or gets the country involved in stupid foreign wars. See: Rome (endless civil wars from competing military factions), Napoleonic France (invade Russia…good idea!), Europe’s collective suicide in WWI and WWII, Russia in Afghanistan, etc. Sorry to confuse ya with actual history.

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  18. I know a 5’2″ girl, in fantastic shape, that has been studying wing chun kung fu for well over ten years. A couple of guys tried to rape her one night as she was coming home. She put both in the hospital and she broke a finger. Afterwards, one of the guys tried to sue her for beating the shit out of him.

    Now I know Hollywood can take suspension of disbelief and shit all over it but there are also plenty of dudes that are no more than a $1.05 when wet with a tendency to talk trash. I don’t care if a dude takes yoga, spinning, or carries his kid in a papoose. My criteria for manliness is simple. If you answer no to any of the following, you are not manly. End of discussion.

    You are not gay.
    You bench at least 225.
    You have experienced atleast one brawl in your lifetime or combat.
    You have played two girls at the same time and laid the pipe on both (not necessarily on the same night).
    You can change a tire.
    You have never had sex while there was another man in the room.
    You have no fear of needles.

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  19. Well, I’m going to agree a bit on this one. The ideal of manliness is to act… like a man! I think one of the main ways in which a man is manly is through the protective/possessive streak. I also hate it when a man actually lets a girl use him or allows an obviously unhealthy relationship to continue. Unmanly to the extreme.

    My brother did use a papoose across the front, and carried my cousin. It was adoooraaable. But he is so blatantly homosexual. So adoraable, though. Big strong guy contrasts with cute little kid.

    I’m going to end this post before I start ranting about how cute my baby cousin is.

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  20. on August 23, 2007 at 4:57 am Days of Broken Arrows

    I don’t see why Westenr guys would ever wanna do yoga.

    Because here, yoga has sort of become like stripping for upper class women who think they’re “above stripping.” Countless women have blogs/My Space pages where they show off their yoga poses purportedly to show their athleticism, but really to show off their bodies in an acceptable way for their social class. If they could get away with the stripper pole, they would. Women are natural exhibitionists.

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  21. tracy/hed – that post piece reads like wishful thinking. civilizations decline when they get decadent and soft. men wearing papooses is decadent and soft.

    anon – fuck yoga… that’s the type of yoga i do.

    mq – i am overcompensating for my very small and diminutive… tolerance of papoose-wearing men. btw, rome ultimately fell because of diversity.

    df – guys with extra masculinity can afford to blow some of it on papoose-wearing. chuck norris could wear a papoose. most soft, herbly men could not without looking like they forgot they have penises. btw, i agree with your list. 3somes are 2 women, 1 man. anything less is… uncivilized.

    b – just to clear the air, unmanliness does not equal gay. they are two different things. the universe of gay does not overlap much with the universe of straight except in the intensity/visual focus of the sex drive. unmanliness is what happens when a straight guy acts in a way that is anti-masculine.

    dba – very insightful. you’re onto something.

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  22. men who cannot ‘t change a tire and call AAA when he or his girlfriend has a flat = soft

    men who use 2 or more adjectives when ordering a drink at starbucks = soft

    american men who cannot throw a football = soft

    you’re right. our society is in a downward spiral.

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  23. Adding a little to vks comments i’d also like to point out the other trend in movies – women who can beat up men, easily.

    Butt kickin’ babes, to use Steve Sailer’s term. Another commentor quite correctly noted that they are used in movies to appeal to males. I don’t see the appeal, myself.

    Television is another culprit in contributing toward unmanliness. Male sitcom characters, especially the fathers in family sitcoms, often are bumbling and incompetent, while most female characters are shrews and super-competent.

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  24. “When you canoodle your girl in public, do not bury your face in her lap and raise your hindquarters in the air like a cat getting stroked.”
    That image made me grimace.

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  25. I learned how to change a tire, when my parents car broke down in NJ taking me to college. There was this gigantic pothole that took out about 40 cars. It was raining and chaotic.

    I remember this guy with a thick jersey accent, a craggy face and puffing on a cigarette coming up to me and asking “why aren’t you helping your dad change the tire?”

    “I don’t know how, no one has ever showed me.”

    “What? You don’t know how to change a tire? What are they teaching you kids nowadays. Come here!”

    It was a command not a question. So we walked over to where some poor grandmother was sobbing on the phone.

    “I’m going to show you, how you change a tire. So pay attention, no man should be without this skill.”

    We approached the poor women and offered to help. We pulled the spare and the jack out of the minivan.

    “I can jack it up, I’ve done that before. I know you have to find the reinforced supports underneath and stuff.”

    So I get the car jacked up.

    “Okay, this is pretty simple all you have to remember is when taking the tire off to loosen the bolts in an opposing pattern. This is even more important when attaching the tire, because it won’t go on properly or you could damage the threads on the bolts.”

    He then proceeded to take of the tire and put on the spare.

    “Alright, now you see that cute girl over there? Go and offer to help her chang the tire.”

    So I walked over to this girl talking dramatically on her cellphone.

    “Do you need some assistance m’am?”

    Her: “OMG. Yes! I need to be back at NYU tonight. I have a meeting/tryout tommorow for the fashion show.”

    Me: “We’re in Paramus, your spare should get you there you back to NYC, but you’ll need to change it soon. It’s not meant to be driven around on. I can change it if you want.”

    Her: “Really? I would appreciate it so much!”

    I got the stuff from the trunk, but then I saw something on the tires. These wheels had 5 bolts in a pentagon layout. What should I do? Then I was like what do you get when you connect the vertices of some regular polygons? Star polygons! So I just traced out a star while loosening the boolts and reattaching the spare and voila!

    Her: “Thank you so much! If you’re ever in NYC, here’s my phone number. Definitely give me a call”

    Me: “No problem, m’am.”

    *****

    I can throw a football quite far.

    I order Decaffeinated Mocha Caramel frappuccinos with creme.

    There goes that theory.

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  26. Rome did not fall, because of diversity. Actually quite the opposite. There’s many reasons why Rome fell and attributing it to one thing is really bowdlerizing the list of reasons.

    What I believe you are referring to is that fact that they outsourced everything to Germanic and other mercenaries. Much like the US is doing today.

    That’s not diversity. That’s removing sources of production from your country and financialization of your economy, because you acquire so much wealth you try to become a rentier country.

    It’s actually the opposite of diversity. It’s like claiming Smith Point, Blue Gin, and Clarendon Grill are bastions of diversity, because the clothes that WASP almost ivy-league males at those joints had their clothes made in India or Thailand in sweatshops.

    Even though Rome did get sacked, the Empire itself just sort of faded away and divided itself up. It wasn’t a catastrophic implosion, especially in what became the Byzantine Empire (eastern part).

    Materialism is currently what is holding the United States together. If it weren’t for materialism we would have already split up into the United States of Canada and Jesusland, so don’t diss it too much.

    I agree with the idea that girl power has become overdone by the Hollywood and the media.

    I’m not saying the are not any sexy girls that can beat up guys. See Nicole @ CrossFit.com for example. These women though when they get pumped up look huge. They can also squat as much as some guys. Look at the total crossfit (squat, standing military clean, and deadlift) video. She’s almost as strong as he is, but that’s just because he’s pussy.

    These girls though do not like the asian girl in die hard four. Even though they still have feminine body shapes they look powerful. They look like they could seriously put a hurting on you if they wanted. Of course, Nicole is an olympic athlete. Pussy guy >= olympic athlete female.

    That’s why the WNBA exists and why Title IX is destroying men’s teams all over the country.

    Today there is an attack on masculinity and not just the negative aspects.

    Humans are not all the same otherwise there would be no competition. It’s about equal opportunity not equality.

    With the variance in humans there maybe girls at the high end of the spectrum that can outperform guys at the other end in their job functions. Thus, if they’re competing for the same job the girl should get it.

    Especially since when it comes to actual non-school work related tasks the variance is multiplied by the laziness factor. Something that girls do seem to stereotypically have an advantage on.

    Perhaps that is just me watching too many sitcoms with bumbling men.

    Finally, carrying your son on your shoulders = manly
    Carrying him in a papoose = you’re not just emasculated, you’ve devolved into a kangaroo. Congratulations.

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  27. “civilizations decline when they get decadent and soft. men wearing papooses is decadent and soft.”

    🙂 What are you then?

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  28. I was taught how to change a tire by my mother when I was 16. Does this disprove the manly hypothesis?

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  29. If any woman has a man who is too much of a man to help with baby-minding, even to the extent of pushing a stroller, she should tell him that he’d better be man enough to make the money to hire her a nanny.

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  30. That’s not diversity.

    nullpointer, if the outsourcing had been handled by co-ethnics on the frontiers would the outcome have been different?

    What are you then?

    the lizard king.

    If any woman has a man who is too much of a man to help with baby-minding

    define help.
    disciplining, playing catch, acclimating the kid to adventure and risk-taking… that’s fatherly help.
    carrying infants in papooses… in the front… a mother’s job. millions of mothers do it without nannies. any man who does that will, i assure you, be laughed at and pitied by other men. heartily.

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  31. Can we extend this conversation into music and specific bands? Or maybe even other parts of popular culture?

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  32. Of course millions of mothers manage without nannies. But one reason why childcare is such an issue today is that there are so many mothers who work outside the home. Yes, it’s possible for women not to do so, but only at the cost of a considerable drop in income and standard of living.

    A husband who takes it for granted that his wife should work for pay, who would feel put-upon if she refused to contribute to the household income, is in no position to refuse to help her with childcare. Or to refuse to allow her to hire a nanny, if their combined incomes are large enough.

    Of course, helping with the children doesn’t have to mean carrying a baby in a papoose on your chest. But if you’re going to raise the issue of family life and attack unmanly men, it might be worthwhile to mention the unmanly ones who abdicate from family responsibilities completely. The fellows who go home from work to veg out on the couch, drinking beer and watching sports, and do nothing at all to intervene when the children are going haywire or the sons talking trash to their mother. Those boys don’t look much like men to me either.

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  33. there are so many mothers who work outside the home.

    This is a structural flaw of our society. It favors DINKS over families, effectively pricing out most families with stay-at-home mothers — the most beneficial, natural and universally preferred arrangement — out of existence. But this is a whole different topic. (Then again, Roissy did mention the fall of civilization.)

    it might be worthwhile to mention the unmanly ones who abdicate from family responsibilities completely

    Indeed. Unmanliness comes in varieties, which also include baby-daddies as well asl playboys who have no intentions of eventually fathering their own progeny.

    The fellows who go home from work to veg out on the couch, drinking beer and watching sports….

    That looks like a swipe at working-class men who are physically exhausted after coming home from work and need an hour to relax.

    …. and do nothing at all to intervene when the children are going haywire or the sons talking trash to their mother.

    I’m not sure if this is too common among married men with kids.

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  34. But if you’re going to raise the issue of family life and attack unmanly men, it might be worthwhile to mention the unmanly ones who abdicate from family responsibilities completely. The fellows who go home from work to veg out on the couch, drinking beer and watching sports, and do nothing at all to intervene when the children are going haywire or the sons talking trash to their mother. Those boys don’t look much like men to me either.

    As I understand it, back in the 1950’s and early 1960’s that sort of uninvolved fatherhood was more or less the norm in the United States. Men worked, women raised the children, and that was that. What’s funny is that if you go back even further, say to the 1800’s and the first half of the 1900’s, fathers were more active in child-raising, much more so than in the 1950’s if not quite up to today’s standards. Things seem to be cyclical.

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  35. PA,
    I didn’t intend to take a swipe at working-class men. It was my understanding that men of all social classes drink beer and watch sports on TV. Was I misinformed? When I was growing up, my own neighbourhood (or one of them; I grew up all over the world) was anything but working-class, yet the men certainly drank beer and watched sports. But they were usually decent fathers too.

    The habit of “abdicating” as head of the house, and disciplining only by yelling at the children when they get away from your comforts, is growing, it seems to me. I can’t offer much evidence, but I suspect that the rise of such men as Dr Phil, and so forth, on TV, speaks to a whole generation’s need for father figures who will set limits.

    And by the way, in a working-class family where the mother works as a waitress while the father drives a delivery truck, each has an equal claim to need an hour of rest. The solution is to take turns.

    But most of this is out of Roissy’s usual area of interest; it’s probably embarrassing/unmanly for him to have it appear on his blog, so I will drop it – for now…

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  36. Yikes, that was meant to be “get in the way of your comforts”. Must have been suffering from a brain storm. Oh well, few people here will notice.

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  37. […] Which got me thinking. Is unmanliness a harbinger of the fall of great powers ? […]

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  38. This gives me the willies, but it’s something that I’d completely expect to find in DC, given the warped relationship dynamics that exist there.

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  39. Call me crazy, but I don’t see the connection between that picture and the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization.

    It’s called dandyism. It’s been around for ages — it just means that some men have the ability to dress up, that’s all. There were dandies for a long time, most famously in the 1930s, and somehow the pretty-boys managed to beat up the exercise-obsessed Reich.

    A far better critique of the whole manliness crusade is found here:

    http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/08/19/manly-men/

    DU

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  40. tracylord: “One tall black coffee for here, please, thanks.”

    I guess I’m unmanned. Back to knitting the papoose for me..

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  41. So, is that what Senator Craig (From the usually manly state of Idaho) was looking for in that airport bathroom? A sign of manliness and on-the-back-papooses? I’m glad the Senate’s on the job!

    An excellent post on modern man’s fears. I had to cross my legs in protective empathy.

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  42. ..about that spiral football throwing test. While my throw isn’t a tight spiral, it does appear missle-like when it thuds in a receiver’s chest. What with so many immigrtants abounding about, I’d throw in the corollary that if you can’t at least bend it somewhat like Beckham, then you may have to consider yourself of the “bent” brigade…

    …and that tire-changing explanation…I’m from Jersey and the first thing you do is loosen the bolts on the tires before jacking it up as your manly strength may tilt the car off the jack if you don’t loosen the bolts and the jack may then lean over and puncture the gas tank which will not be a good thing, especially if you happen to be smoking a fag while you’re manly changing the tire. How did I concoct this possibililty? A 2nd degree burn friend of mine related his act of tire changing charity to me.

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  43. darkov – glad to see i’m not the only one to have thought about the jack-puncturing-the-gas-tank scenario.

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  44. Do I sense a full-on homosexual panic?

    If that’s not the case and you eventually have kids, I think you’ll discover that holding and carrying a baby – even in a sling – is one of the manliest things you’ll ever do.

    The rest of the post is funny, tho.

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  45. What is a “papoose”?

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  46. What is a “papoose”?

    non-surgical castration.

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  47. Knowing the word “papoose” makes you unmanly.

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  48. “As I understand it, back in the 1950’s and early 1960’s that sort of uninvolved fatherhood was more or less the norm in the United States. Men worked, women raised the children, and that was that. What’s funny is that if you go back even further, say to the 1800’s and the first half of the 1900’s, fathers were more active in child-raising, much more so than in the 1950’s if not quite up to today’s standards. Things seem to be cyclical.”

    This is a good point. I think mass public schooling is responsible for that. I guess the father in 1862 would just take his son to his smithy when he was old enough to learn his trade. He may have gone to school from age 6 to 9 or so and have learned some things from his mother or nanny until age 5, but I think preteen and teen boys were mostly educated by their fathers. Public schools just thought kids to read, write and calculate a bit. Latin schools were strictly for the elite. The industrial revolution, followed by more complex society brought more office jobs and other white collar professions, so mass high schools were needed after WWII.

    Once a father can’t take his son to work, time spent on children was limited to his free time. Many men in the 50’s and early 60’s still worked 6 days a week, 10 hours a day.
    Many men did come home for lunch, as most people lived near their workplace. With the same job for a lifetime and the provider/housewife system, that was possible. But I don’t think they saw much of their children at night on weekdays. I do think many fathers would take their sons out on sunday, maybe for sports, or some hunting or fishing.

    “It was my understanding that men of all social classes drink beer and watch sports on TV. Was I misinformed? When I was growing up, my own neighbourhood (or one of them; I grew up all over the world) was anything but working-class, yet the men certainly drank beer and watched sports. But they were usually decent fathers too.”

    I think social class mostly influences the kind of sports that are watched. And drinking whiskey, cognac or wine to excess is hardly better in any case, except for health. While most men will enjoy a drink an a match once in a while, it is a hallmark of a lack of backbone to have no other hobbies. I guess the female equivalent is the wife who watches soap operas and eats donuts all day. Having spine is a virtue in both sexes.

    “The habit of “abdicating” as head of the house, and disciplining only by yelling at the children when they get away from your comforts, is growing, it seems to me. I can’t offer much evidence, but I suspect that the rise of such men as Dr Phil, and so forth, on TV, speaks to a whole generation’s need for father figures who will set limits.”

    I think this also has a lot to do with wives who are not respecting their husband. A fathers status can help set limits on the children if the children have respect for their father. They won’t have that unless their mother does.
    A woman who calls her husband an asshole is not really going to motivate him to set his son straight if he calls his mother a bitch. A man is much more likely to escape his wife and kids by turning on the TV and drinking a lot if he has a harpy for a wife and brats for kids. At the same time, a husband who is hiding from his responsibilities as a father and is not offering enough support to his wife is far less likely to get the respect that he needs in order to be a head of household. If a man has repeatedly proven not to act responsibly when it comes to bringing home income, doing repairs, setting a good example for his children and the like, his wife will become desperately dissatisfied, making it near impossible for her to even pretend to respect him. It is not only a vicous circle, but in most cases bad husbands end up with bad wives. A man with no backbone usually attracts a critical and verbally incontinent wife, which makes for respectless and irresponsible children in a double whammy of nature and nurture. A very bleak situation.

    On a more positive note, good wives and good husbands are often found in one couple, resultig in good kids and thus an easy task and a light burden for everyone. They trust eachother and basically have good habits, so a single slip of either party is less likely to result in drama. The quality of a family is very robust, for better or for worse.

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  49. […] the link between male papooses and the decline of Western Civilization from August […]

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  50. Yoga is somehow womanly in the states. Not at all in india. It’s a mad ass spiritual path. Shit, it’s like saying kung fu is womanly. Or meditation is feminine.

    There is definitely a whole bias against masculinity, in pop-culture and the like.

    All this stuff is inherently neutral, it’s how you do it that makes it masculine or not.

    If this guy is cool as hell with carrying a baby on the front(like the russian) because he knows he is gonna go home and shave with a rusty knife, then it’s masculine.

    If he’s weak on the inside, then it’s feminine.

    Shit the matcho guy, and the girly wimp are different sides of the same coin.

    It’s the inside that matters.

    You could say even focusing on getting women(seduction n all this shit) is feminine… but the way we do it is masculine.

    In fact, whats with the feminine clothing tips Roissy?

    The point is, it’s being cool with it on the inside, and how you do it that matters. Not the external act.

    John

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  51. At least he’s not pushing the baby around in a Bugaboo stroller. The whole look of that guy is irritating though, can’t quite put my finger on why.

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  52. on April 1, 2011 at 1:46 pm Laughingdog

    With tire changing, depending on the wheels, the easy solution is to make sure the car is in gear. If it’s an automatic, you’re already covered.

    If it’s not a drive wheel, it’s a lot easier to jack it up part way, taking most of the weight off the wheel, which reduces the load on the lug nuts. Another good reason to loosen the bolts early is so you don’t look like an idiot trying to turn a nut on a free-spinning wheel.

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