How Not To Win The War On Terror

Tens of thousands of Iraqis could come to U.S. in ’09.

The United States expects to admit a minimum of 17,000 Iraqi refugees in fiscal 2009, which begins October 1, the department’s senior coordinator for refugees said. Thousands more Iraqis and their family members could arrive via a special visa program for people who worked for the United States or its contractors.

I’m absolutely POSITIVE none of these war-torn, culturally alien refugees will be nursing a grudge against us. I hope we assume full control of Iraq’s oil wells in return for our generosity. If you’re going to be accused of imperialism, may as well enjoy the benefits of imperialism.

“I think you’ll see the U.S. government admitting over the course of fiscal 2009 tens of thousands of Iraqis into the United States,” coordinator James Foley told reporters.

I had a Welsh roommate — a very smart guy who was an astrophysicist and enjoyed red wine and jazz — who wanted to work fulltime for NASA once his contract was up, but the obstacles presented by our formal immigration laws were too restrictive, and so he had no choice but to move back to Europe. He’d have made an excellent and productive American citizen. Little did he know an invasion of Wales would have substantially smoothed his citizenship process!

It’s not often one gets to say he was witness to his country’s dissolution.

But it is still lower than the number some other countries have taken. Sweden, a country of 9 million people, has admitted over 40,000 Iraqis since 2003.

This is what happens to a country when its native men relinquish their masculinity. What are the odds on Sweden existing as it is currently constituted in 50 years?





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  1. We broke it, we fix it? I guess we need more Richard Lynn, Steve Sailer, and Samuel Huntington in our policy discussions.

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  2. on September 12, 2008 at 11:20 pm Not the real Buddha

    Arab guys are alpha right? They even hold hands with other men.

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  3. Third world immigration in perspective:

    National Socialism: 1934 to 1945
    Communism: 1917 to 1991
    Population Replacement: early 1950s to ?

    This is what happens to a country when its native men relinquish their masculinity.

    Wrong diagnosis. The politicians, the media, the universities, the churches, and the oligarchs who rule us have a firm grasp on their balls. They know damn well that potential Welsh or Polish immigrants are not getting in, but people from exotic lands are.

    White people’s ruling classes have always been genocidal bastards. That makes white people no different from yellow, brown, and black ones. But sometime after WW2, white people’s rulers turned their aggession against their own kind.

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  4. Yeah, the Swedes… And to think that, at one point in their history they were the scourge of Europe — even got around to invading Sicily, Normandy, and England in those Dragon longboats of theirs.

    I can hardly imagine them as Vikings now, walking around with their fag short shorts and speaking like the Swedish Chef from Muppets… It’s what happens to a Western society when they decide to go “fag planet.”

    Although they are hot looking, Swedish chicks are more manly in behavior than the men there.. the chicks will hit on you at any nightclub in Stockholm.

    Some Finns I know are quite pissed off at the level of immigration in their small society too.

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  5. FYI, for those of you who dislike Islam or fear, I read that the bulk of those Iraqi citizens Sweden admitted are Christen.

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  6. “If you’re going to be accused of imperialism, may as well enjoy the benefits of imperialism.”

    That’s what I used to say about the slavery reparations movement. Funny, but the argument was never taken up.

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  7. This is the inevitable result of pandering to the largest group of voters, women.

    Women, on average, prefer these things. Including single motherhood, mass immigration, and so on. They certainly vote for it.

    I can understand it. It’s the same rage they have towards “beta males.” Women consider most straight White guys in that class, and want them gone.

    Women’s suffrage + welfare state + pill/condom/abortions = PC/Multicultural hell. Simple as that. UNLESS strong and deliberate attempts to create a culture against that is undertaken.

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  8. Roissy

    Speaking of masculinity, how is the steroid hunt going? Once you go on, you’ll benching 200 in no time.

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  9. It’s the whole basis of one of my favorite films, made before most (any?) of you ere born: The Mouse That Roared.

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  10. whiskey saidWomen consider most straight White guys in that class, and want them gone

    No need to worry, most white women still love and marry white men in this country and in Europe.

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  11. Whiskey, women vote either (a) in their families’ perceived interest, like white married middle class women, who vote overwhelmingly Republican; or (b) for what’s fashionable (like “compassionate” welfare, etc.)

    But it’s the men who run things that dictate what’s fashionable. If tomorrow Harvard University and New York Times decided that America needs to reassert it’s white supremacy, most women would start voting Arian Nation.

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  12. “FYI, for those of you who dislike Islam or fear, I read that the bulk of those Iraqi citizens Sweden admitted are Christen.”

    You really think that matters? I mean, most blacks and hispanics in America are christos, no?

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  13. “But it’s the men who run things that dictate what’s fashionable. If tomorrow Harvard University and New York Times decided that America needs to reassert it’s white supremacy, most women would start voting Arian Nation.

    I recommend a recent biography on the first famous black boxer, Jack Johnson, only because the racist vitriol coming from the NYTimes is plain to see. So there was a time when this indeed happened.

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  14. “I can understand it. It’s the same rage they have towards “beta males.” Women consider most straight White guys in that class, and want them gone.”

    -If this is indeed true, and I don’t really concern myself with white women so I don’t really know, I would throw a hypothesis that much of the fault is with white males. This is because from my recollection of high school, all I used to hear were white males (95% white high school) bragging about which – white – chick they got head from, or which chick they fucked, etc. And it wasn’t just so-called alphas, as soon as the “beta” got some – even from a steady girlfriend – he was bragging away; he was not speaking of marriage.

    I would say these guys produced women who like to be abused by men (because becoming used to the frequent sex experienced during the teenage years, they get attracted to the aggressor type who turn them on), and possibly have developed disdain for males who cannot show this low-class sexual aggression.

    But I’m sure many other arguments can be put forth equally if not more valid – this is just one man’s recollection.

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  15. PA —

    The problem is that most women with children are now single mothers, so they vote Democratic. Marriage is for older people. It’s not coming back, really, as a widespread marker for ordinary people.

    Moreover, I find it hard to understand why single women, who T and Roissy have shown, act ruthlessly towards “betas” would vote differently than the feelings they display. Non-dominant White men are considered “the enemy” and hated with a passion. This pretty much equates to most White women voting Democratic, or the vaunted Gender Gap, which has persisted (among single men/women) for generations.

    The Democratic Party goes out of it’s way to make sure everyone knows it is anti-White Male, very likely for this electoral advantage (in the cities, anyway). If White women despise “betas” and they do, “fashion” won’t change that. Which would not happen anyway — the Alphas running cultural institutions benefit too much.

    [As White women age, they generally turn into Joy Behar in the View, given the singleton nature.]

    Non-White — why then the attraction to dominant men and the rage of “nice” guys? More likely women are just pursuing a huge dose of testosterone since they can … afford it.

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  16. Too bad he ain’t around these days…Mr. Pilkington has some great stories about being in Iraq and talking to the Iraqis about immigration to Europe and the US. I seem to recall him telling one that went something like this:

    Iraqi dude: But America is so much bigger than Sweden, why won’t they let us in?
    Pilkington: Honestly? Because we’re very racist and don’t like you guys that much.
    Iraqi dude: No!
    Pilkington: Yes, it’s true! In fact, you lot are like the new black people in America.
    Iraqi dude: What?! (eyes widen with a mix of incredulity and fear) NO!
    Pilkington: Yes, and no one will tell you this…but if you are allowed into the country they will make you guys live in Michigan. You see, in America, that’s where all the Arabs live. It gets very cold there and it snows.
    Iraqi dude: Oh yes, snow…it snows here too sometimes.
    Pilkington: Not like in Michigan it doesn’t…much snow (sweeping hand gestures), biiiiig snow! Very cooooold!

    Also, I thought I’d heard the Swedes had finally wised up and started sending some of those bamas home?

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89022332

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  17. C’mon. The vast majority of these Iraqi refugees are folks who overtly worked for the Americans. Have the vietnamese refugees caused us that many problems?

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  18. John Smith 1 —

    We broke it, we fix it?

    Says who, to either one of those two clauses, Colin Powell? PC speak at it’s finest. Tell that to any other great imperial or national power in history. They fix it if they want to fix it; otherwise not.

    It was broke. A sunni dictatorship could always restore order and dictatorial control, as before — as so too perhaps could a sh’ia one. It’s also up to them to fix themselves. In actual fact, we’ve given them enormous opportunity to leapfrog stages of political development into democracy. Doesn’t mean their culture is really capable of it. The living with pluralism and letting someone else win and rule without crushing sides of democracy, that is. Those are the sides that matter and sustain elections, cycle after cycle. One man one vote is very easy. One time.

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  19. Russ 17 —

    Have the vietnamese refugees caused us that many problems?

    Neither the vietnamese, nor communists generally, had a long history of interenational terrorism (with exceptions, like bader meinhoff). Further, the Vietnamese who helped us and wised to escape communism were not communists. You could have sleepers, but they’d be sleeping in a hostile environment within the US refugee population. That’s not how terrorists swim and develop.

    In contrast Muslims have now decades of history of international terrorism, particularly Arab muslims do. Even those who say they helped us did not cease being muslims in doing so, nor did they necessarily or even likely cross over into full spectrum opposition to all or most muslim grievances against the US. Instead they were opposing one or another terror faction within Iraq, or far more often still, showing up for a good paycheck as interpreters, etc.

    They and more likely their kids or brothers or relatives who come to the US could very definitely be fertile ground for hatching and hiding terrorists amongst us.

    Just how bad a risk it is, I’m not sure, but it’s inherantly vastly more of one than taking Vietnamese into the US those who were fleeing the communist takeover of that country.

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  20. Hey, do you know how it was going to bars and clubs in Sweden prior to the immigration started?

    Now the country is full of non-feminst hot immigrant girls discovering sexual freedom and rebelling against their conservative parents.

    Not sure about “Sweden existing as it is currently consituted”, but it hell is a lot more fun to go out these days.

    Anyhow, Roissy, what’s your take on Calum Best?

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  21. Moreover, I find it hard to understand why single women, who T and Roissy have shown, act ruthlessly towards “betas” would vote differently than the feelings they display. Non-dominant White men are considered “the enemy” and hated with a passion. This pretty much equates to most White women voting Democratic, or the vaunted Gender Gap, which has persisted (among single men/women) for generations.

    Oddly enough, male Republican politicians by and large seem more Alpha than their Democratic counterparts.

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  22. Whiskey, you way overstate the “female as meowing cat in heat wanting a big fat barbed cock plunged under her tail” angle as your Theory of Everything.

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  23. Roissy: “If you’re going to be accused of imperialism, may as well enjoy the benefits of imperialism.”

    Amend slightly to “If you’re going to go around acting like an imperial power, may as well …”

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  24. PA — it is more like young single women have a surprising and weird hatred for the “beta” guys. If I’m not interested in a girl, and she’s not bothering me, why would I care?

    Yet T-Ricky Raw’s story along with Roissy’s about how girls HATE the beta male is revealing. It’s not like they are simply attracted to the Alpha. They HATE the beta? Why?

    And since far more Beta guys are Republicans, and Republicans have an “uncool” image in the Press and definitely are identified as the “Average White Guy” party I don’t see why women of this nature would not express their hatred. For the average white guy and his party.

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  25. Whiskey, much of what you post is very valuable, but I really believe that you’ve gotten yourself boxed in intellectually with your excessive focus on “what women want.”

    Like someone else wrote, men want a hot 19-year-old model, but this doesn’t stop them from loving their wies, provided they don’t get fat.

    The hate for Betas that Ricky Raw described was aptly qualified by someone wlse, with RR’s endorsement, that this hate for Betas was in large part women’s reaction to the latent anger and needyness of those Betas. I truly don’t think that women hate an average/Beta guy who otherwise looks like he has his shit together and isn’t meowling to cop a feel, sneek a downbluse peek, or otherwise ineptly angle around a girl.

    A phenomenon I notice here and in real life is that there is a segment of guys who complain about the Betas’ lot in life with regards to women. This reminds me of two nerdy English majors who wistfully look at a hot girl hanging on some jocks, asking one another “I just don’t understand

    It’s always been like this! Complaining about Nature’s design is always going to be a dead end. Doing something abut it, on the other hand, can lead somewhere.

    I can speak from experience. I came to the US as a high-school age teenager with a funny accent and awkward manners, intimidated as fuck by my new environment. The preppy fuckers called me “Russkie” and “Commie” (I was neither) and “stupid Pollack” and at that point I could have given up. But I didn’t. I played up my strengths, deemphasized my weaknesses and by my senior year I had cool friends and went to the prom with one of the hottest girls in the school.

    So the point of this long story is this: when you say – They HATE the beta? Why? your answer should be “who gives a fuck why. That’s just the way it is. But I’m not gonna be that beta.”

    Not only will thsi Beta you speak of be personally happier then, but he’ll also be better equipped to deal with larger things, from a position of strenght.

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  26. PA –
    I think you and whiskey are coming from different angles. Your view/commentary seems to be utilitarian in nature. You comment from the POV of someone looking to gain practical skill from the conversation. Seems to me that whiskey is less interested in utility than he is theory. When you read a comment that’s bitter about women’s actions toward a particular group of men, it doesn’t necessary qualify the commenter as a part of that group.

    I’d also bet that you’re more likely to comment directly from personal experience whereas whiskey may be more likely to comment through the lens of the theory he’s developed mentally.

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  27. Agreed, Anon. However, I do think that Whiskey’s theoretical framework overstates certain things.

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  28. There was a movie made about your Welsh roommates delemma. “The Mouse That Roared” about a small country that invades the US in order to get beaten and then get foreign aid. I think there were a few Welshmen in the film.

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  29. There are two problems with being “higher beta”: it only eliminates obvious low-status “tells”, like nervousness and neediness. It only promotes you from the ranks of the “instant eww”. It doesn’t raise your success rate, and it tends mainly to lead to effectively getting fat chicks. Women don’t hate you, but you still have to use game to get them, and you still don’t have the advantages of status. But congratulations, you’ve become the neutral guy rather than the one they torture. Instead of a harsh rejection, you’re more likely to get “No, but thanks.” But that is still not game, not alpha, and not sex with hotts.

    (Waiting on my birthday celebration in my mini-harem of odalisques, i.e. fatties.)

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