I Can’t Make This Shit Up

There was a shitstorm recently from offended female lawyers about my post on judging a woman’s femininity, sexual adventurism and relationship-worthiness based on her job.  I was tough on a number of different kinds of careerist chicks, but it was the lawyers who took the most umbrage and came out swinging their clitdicks with a vengeance, thereby proving my point in the most satisfactory way possible.

I’ve relied on my experience dating lawyers to bring my readers valuable first-hand knowledge of their inherent afeminine bitterbitch blackened souls of ballcuttery.  Truly, female lawyers (with one, OK, maybe two, exceptions) are a special breed of succubus you will not feel the slightest bit of guilt dumping a violent fuck into and leaving before the cum has crusted up on her face.

Sometimes, though, one man’s experiences aren’t enough to convince men thinking about dating a lawyer.  So we have stories like this to hammer home the message.

 Elana and David Glatt have filed a $400,000 suit against an Upper East Side florist, charging it caused them “extreme disappointment, distress and embarrassment” on what was supposed to be the greatest day of their lives by providing the wrong-colored hydrangeas for their Aug. 11 nuptials.

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“After spending nearly $30,000 and over 12 months planning the flowers for their wedding, the flowers were not even close to what plaintiffs had bargained and paid for,” the Glatts charge.

[…]

“They sent us 200, 250 e-mails changing things up until the last minute. We did everything they wanted,” [the florist] said.

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The suit says that was a disastrous difference, because “colors had been specifically chosen to match the tones of the room.”

As self-parody goes, this is high art.

Leaving aside the legal issues here and the exhorbitant damages she’s seeking, just try to imagine what it would be like to pledge your lifelong devotion to a woman who would spend $30K on wedding flowers and email the florist over 200 times with updated requests for getting the arrangements just right.  Is there any man alive who, if he were in the groom’s shoes, wouldn’t feel like an afterthought at a wedding like that?  A woman who is more in love with the wedding ceremony than with the man she is marrying = classic American cunt.

I can just picture what their marriage is going to be like:

“You got the regular 3-ply?  I TOLD you to get the strawberry scented 6-ply toilet paper!  WHY can’t you do anything right??  Only the little people get chafed assholes!!!”

Here is a photo of the hell cat:

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i win cases with my adam’s apple!

Look closely.  Notice the alpha male glare in her eyes, the kind of aggressive glee you normally see on the face of a used car salesman who’s just suckered you into forking over full price for a lemon.  Her clenched jaw which says she is ready to do battle, anywhere, anytime.  The severe, triple-lacquered hairstyle with not one stray strand daring to spring out of line suggesting in her a tendency to view the sex act as either a necessary annoyance on the way to getting what she wants or a stress reliever before a big day at the office crushing testicles.  And is that a power suit with shoulder pads?

In short, nothing about this woman hints at anything feminine.  She sold her yin to the devil for a gift registry of wealth and taste.  Her sense of entitlement is so bloated no man could possibly keep his dignity and satisfy her at the same time.  And she doesn’t even have the saving grace of being hot.  Which brings us to the husband.  What kind of man marries a woman like this?  The answer is in the photo:

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no, really, we’re in love.

Merry douchemas!  This guy looks like he’s already pre-emptively cheating on her and high-fiving his buddies about it over beers at Scores.  I’m wishing with my mind that he’ll do to his wife what Chad did to that deaf girl in the movie “In the Company of Men” and then excuse himself from humanity and get run over by a bus.

What we have in this case study is the epitome of everything that is wrong with 21st century American womanhood.  Luckily, all indicators are that these simulacra of women are having fewer kids than their more nurturing and traditional sisters, so I expect the wave of fembots currently clawing their way through the corporate machine to eventually dwindle to irrelevant numbers.

As much as you desperately want to believe your hard work and ivy league credentials matters to your mating prospects, ladies, men don’t give a shit what you do for a living.  In fact, as this story illustrates, your high-powered career will make you less of a catch, not more.  Men compete with other men all day long; the last thing they want is to come home and lock horns with ballbusting women.  And lawyers, being the generic parasites they are, are the worst of the worst.

On a related subject, I’d like any readers to find studies, if they exist, on number of children per woman by occupation.  I’d bet good money that lawyers are less fecund than elementary school teachers.





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  1. Gott Und Himmel, you’re in rare form this morning Roissy. I nearly choked on my Starbucks.

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  2. Dear God Roissy, my first step Dad (RIP) who was this Vietnam vet used to have this black shirt with a skull and a red beret and a yellow lightning bolt on it with the words

    “kill them all and let God sort them out”

    For some reason this morning you remind me of a living example of that slogan. Sound’s like you need to make it a Dan’s night, just saying

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  3. on November 2, 2007 at 2:07 pm instantExcitement

    Wow…This was an intense piece. Career minded women can be attractive, especially if you’ve spent a significant amount of time with the wishy washy, Um I have no opinion, type girls that roam around DC. That being said, I have 0 interest in ever dealing with some broad like the florist chick. She’s just prepping herself for the eventual divorce, and plans to suck what little money she can out of that dude. There’s a reason more and more marriages fail in our society, and that’s because of a change in roles by women, and the lack of a complimentary change by men. Alpha Female types, eventually all end up in the same situation. Divorced 1.4 times, with 1.9 kids, and re-marry a super alpha male in their late 30s to mid 40s. Have another kid, and pay no attention to each other while consuming side relationships.

    Well said Roissy.

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  4. I am reminded of this

    So did she make you cry,
    Make you break down,
    Shatter your illusions of love.
    Now tell me,
    Is it over now,
    Do you know how,
    To pick up the pieces and go home?

    Someone’s gold dust woman was clearly a lawyer.

    Carry on, with your forays into the adult world, where you don’t have a shot with healthy, confident women because we started seeing through this shit in our teens, and where you prey on/are preyed on by, women who are too sweet or too damaged to realize how little you offer, with your shoulders turned 90 degrees away.

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  5. I’m going to steal Merry douchemas from you, if you don’t mind.

    I know several females who are lawyers, and not one of them are as you describe. They are all very femme, and seemingly more into their relationships than they are their careers. But, in that my experience is limited, I’ll concede that they may be the exception to the rule.

    But the (male) lawyers I’ve dated have all been douchebags. Go figure.

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  6. The woman looks horrendous in the solo picture, but in the picture with the man she looks more like a normal chick.

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  7. Everybody looks ugly in law firm pictures. Even the women who look pretty in theirs look much prettier in real life.

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  8. just try to imagine what it would be like to pledge your lifelong devotion to a woman who would spend $30K on wedding flowers

    According to the linked article, the man’s mother picked up the tab for the flowers.

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  9. Female lawyers have the highest rates of divorce and lowest rates of remarriage of all female professionals. They have the fewest children, work the longest hours, and are more likely to have had an affair. There are so many studies on this I don’t even know where to begin. The rates are so troubling that even feminists are concerned. Moreover, they’re not making partner at the same rate as their male counterparts raising the question, where’s the upside?

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  10. DF,

    I blame Alley Mcbeal, that skinny bitch!

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  11. Ok, me-when I get married I will either be eloping or having a small ceremony at my mom’s house. I hate this bridezilla crap and I’d rather spend the money on a great honeymoon in Brazil or Thailand, for instance. So that said, I noticed this in the article which I think bears highlighting: “Two weeks before the wedding, Posy demanded the couple pay the rest of the cash they owed – $26,435.14 – by cashier’s check, instead of credit card, as they’d planned.”

    A cashier’s check means they cannot stop payment if there is a dispute obviously. Maybe the florist really did pull a bait and switch and wanted to make sure the couple didn’t have the financial recourse of stopping payment. Just something to think about.

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  12. VK, Haha!! True!

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  13. Excellent comeback… wow. I’m in awe.

    To be fair, there is such a thing as a Bridezilla — a woman far more in love with being weddinged than being married– and which crops up regardless of occupation. However, if you have 30k to blow on hydrangeas whose color (hard to control as it is) must be coordinated specifically to some venue, there is a special circle in hell reserved for you.

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  14. What comeback? And what was the first thing you said?

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  15. I love the intensity. Awesome post.

    For me, these attitudes don’t apply specifically to lawyers, but to anyone who confuses their career/financial success with their overall happiness. I’ve never bedded a practicing lawyer, so I wouldn’t be qualified to comment on whether their widely perceived emotional shortcomings/insecurities and man-envy are real or not. but being a woman-lawyer seems like it would conflict with my ideal of a nurturing, pleasure-seeking female. To quoth the Jigga-man: “I like my women-friends feminine”.

    and honestly, if you’re a woman, why would you waste away your prime years of showcasing yourself for marriage by focusing on your career? Those sheets will be cold and lonely regardless of where they were bought and how much they were

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  16. As more and more women go into the field, stereotypes of women lawyers are probably becoming less valid.

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  17. just like all men want to fuck young hot women, all women want a good wedding

    some may go more for little get aways than big big ones (but be careful, a woman who says she doesn’t want a big wedding might not be totally truthful) but it is a big deal to all of them.

    a guy having a honeymoon in brazil is awesome. he gets to see super hot easy women whom he’ll has agreed to never fuck, and he gets to look forward to his marriage being straight downhill from there!

    nice!

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  18. I am a lawyer (recovering and doing business now), and I can say that the law attracts a very disproportionate percentage of people, both male and female, with what would be considered, by most sane people, to be the worst personality traits.

    I think the fact that I’m able to say this openly is evidence that I’m not one of those people, or at least try not to be.

    However, that said, I will make this further comment. Among all demographic groups, the legal profession seems to have the biggest pull for white women with this type of soulless, superficial, amoral and nakedly status-obsessed personality type. Combine all that with a tendency to be workaholics and nearly humorless grinds, and this is the typical profile for many young white female lawyers.

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  19. on November 2, 2007 at 5:50 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Haha! Terrific writing on this. Some sentences, I believe, I may have inspired (like the one about men not wanting to come home to ball busters).

    As for the kids, “Glatt” sounds Jewish, and Jewish women on average have far less children than women of any other religion (this is according to recent census data, which I had researched for a newspaper story). Also, Jewish women have kids far later in life, which means the amount of disabilities is sky-high. There are not many lawyers with autism or Asberger’s, two fave diseases of selfish women who destroy their kids by having them when they’re 46 (like my cousin, whose kid is half deaf).

    Therefore, you needn’t worry about this particular species of female breeding much.

    I still wonder why in the hell you would date a lawyer. I don’t even like to talk to female lawyers. I’m always worried I’ll get sued because of a “gotcha” moment.

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  20. There’s also the fact that law school, and then legal practice, are like 24/7 primers on the art of “getting over on people”. It becomes such an instinctive thing that the average lawyer, if he/she doesn’t consciously try to keep this loathsome habit in check, will eat away at your entire personality until your soul starts becoming the equivalent of Gollum from ‘Lord of the Rings’.

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  21. “As more and more women go into the field, stereotypes of women lawyers are probably becoming less valid.”

    Wrong. There is a great deal of self-selection in this population that will continue to reinforce observations already made here.

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  22. Wow, awesome three-minute hate, dude! What do you do for a living?

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  23. Fucking. Brilliant.

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  24. you’re really mean

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  25. Have some sense of humor folks!
    Don’t take this too seriously

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  26. irina: you’re really mean

    “when you dance with the angel the angel don’t change
    the angel changes you”

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  27. I think your right on when speaking of these types of women breeding themselves out of existence. This whole concept of “I’ll start having children after I’m 30”, will cause a huge demographic shift towards an increase in stupid people populating the country.

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  28. The problem is that smart people are intelligent enough to know that they have to wait until they’re “ready” to have children in the optimum environment. Stupid people in contrast have children without any planning. Either we have to do something to reduce the number of children that the religious and less intelligent have, or we need to find a way to subsidize and reduce the cost of having children of the intelligent people who want to have children. I question if it’s possible to push those who want to be childless into having children or for the intelligent with deep fears of the future to do so as well.

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  29. Broken Arrows–

    “As for the kids, “Glatt” sounds Jewish, and Jewish women on average have far less children than women of any other religion (this is according to recent census data, which I had researched for a newspaper story).”

    I hate to nitpick, because although your point is so true (and how well I know as a member of the afflicted group in question), but you didn’t find this out through census data, because the census doesn’t track this sort of thing by religion.

    I work for a government agency which hires a lot of lawyers, most of whom are female. It seems to me that most of these girls come from middling records at better schools or better records at middling schools, but they all have one thing in common: they all look for government work because they don’t want to bust ass in private practice rainmaking and doing 70-hour weeks (and I can’t say I really blame them for that). Same with newly-minted female MD’s, most of whom want a 9-5 practice in dermatology.

    And for the record, I am married to a law degree holder who never practiced (she really wasn’t cut out for it), and our nine-year old son is in fact autistic.

    By the way, look up “glatt kosher” while you’re at it.

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  30. The solution is obvious DA: let young women (17-22) marry somewhat older guys (25-35) who are already established and inmediately start having children. Later, the wife can still study.

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  31. DA:
    Dysgenics continues, and because immigration keeps our population steady, we won’t see the subisidization like in many European countries.

    Gannon,
    Women can’t expect to have equal careers to men and raise kids at the age of 20.

    Btw, does this whole lawyer sterotype hold for the women who just went into it because they had nothing else to do with their bs english degree?

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  32. I think you’ve pointed out a problem with Gannon’s theory. To have children at 20-21 aborts the career in the first place. Presuming you have three children, by the time you return back to school, you’ll be 30-something, and why would anybody employ a de facto part-time 30-something lawyer when they can employ a young man who isn’t distracted by family or a single woman who devotes herself to her career?

    In effect, what’s the point of being smart and well educated if you can’t make use of your gifts and talents? That’s the big selling point of careers over children, especially since the careers are needed to pay for the kids.

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  33. I suspect autism and asperger’s are more common in women who marry late because they have more ‘nerdy’ personality traits. The superior social skills of women in general let them become lawyers instead of programmers.

    As for why such women would date nerdy men, well, hey, I can’t think of everything. 🙂

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  34. Life is about choices. A woman’s most important and irreplacable misssion in life is nurturing and raising the next generation. Once the children are in school, she can get an education and still work if she wants so. Life is not fair.

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  35. A woman’s most important and irreplacable misssion in life is nurturing and raising the next generation.

    You sound like a religious weirdo. By that logic, what’s a man’s job?

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  36. All lawyers are scum, male and female. I can still remember the chill I felt when a friend told me about the extremely bitter custody battle going on between his sister and brother-in-law during their divorce. Both were lawyers, but get this…

    The battle wasn’t over who got custody of the kids. It was over who had to take custody of them! Can you imagine the effect that had on those poor children? My Gawd, they were probably so soul-destroyed, they grew up to be lawyers too.

    Kill ’em all. Break’em on a wheel. Sounds about right.

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  37. what’s a man’s job?
    Actually, believe it or not, to be a moral person. A person who acts according to what he considers good, beautiful and noble.

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  38. If that’s true, then you can understand why I take positions that you would consider to be feminist. I look at my female friends, cousins, and nieces and wonder why should I treat women as second class citizens and deny them the right to enjoy their lives in the same way that I do because they have a uterus and breasts?

    BTW, how do you feel about Senorita Kirchner becoming President in Argentina?

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  39. are there any functional benefits to having a giant clit ? what are the chances that a female lawyer is better hung than DA ?

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  40. David–

    As I’ve told you many times before, it’s those “religious weirdos” who will be breeding while everyone else stops.

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  41. Well, if we secular high IQ types don’t breed, the religious weirdos will surely inherit a world that’s worse off without us. Large religious families generally ensure low human development, and thus, one should expect a decline in technological and scientific progress. It’s not a problem for *me* directly since I have no children (and my chance of having children is very, very low), but it’s going to be a problem for the religious people.

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  42. on November 3, 2007 at 7:20 am Days of Broken Arrows

    sestamibi,

    You’re right, the cencus doesn’t track religious data, although you can find some here:
    http://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/04statab/pop.pdf.

    I got my stats from Jewish Data Bank, and I think I either had to rwquest it or dig it up somewhere. Either way, I don’t have the link, but I remember it stating something like the average age a Jewish woman has kids is close to 40 and Jewish families have 1.9 kids per household.

    I should have saved the info. The story got spiked, so I must have trashed it.

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  43. damn dude, what a post. I had no sympathies for Lawyers before I started reading – Lawyers run most countries in the world, directly or indirectly, their only qualification being a high verbal IQ – but this makes me want to see them hurt in some fashion. The only species of animal more self-assured, more apt to opine on subjects of which they know nothing and demand to be heard, are journalists. But at least female journalists usually have a friendly demenaour born of constant interviewing, not the thuggish look of dogfighting lawyers.

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  44. But Roissy is of course right – women like her are being selected out by evolution at this very moment.

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  45. It’s strange. In the past a woman like her might have actually raised more children to adulthood than the norm. She wouldnt have a good job, for sure, but her high IQ would ensure dominance of the female aspect of society, running church fundraisers, taking part in schools etc. Peer pressure and female competitiveness would in turn have incentivised her to have as many children as other women, maybe more. The measure of a woman was tied up with having children.

    Here’s a gnxp post with interesting factoids.

    “If current trends continue, demographers say, there will be 156 women per 100 men earning degrees by 2020.” – this confirms roissy’s polygamy hypothesis. women with degrees never marry men without them, so the men with degrees will be able to live at least a quasi-polygamous existence, while the male underclass will grow, and with increased sexual frustration will become even more violent. Even if those female degrees include a lot of bullshitty disciplines, and don’t include engineering or computer science, the stats speak for themselves.

    The implications of female education are not only the collapse of the system of monogamous marriage the Cathoic Church imposed on the west after centuries of grim fighting, but are also, seriously, dysgenic: ” University educated women had 35 per cent lower fitness than those who left school as early as possible.”… “”We also found that mothers with more education were typically having just one child at an older age. Their reproductive fitness was much lower than their peers who left school as early as possible.”

    By their fruits ye shall know them (Mat 7: 20)

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  46. Actually DA, I’m not religious at all. My favourite philosophers are Aristoteles and Nietzsche. I’m probably closer to Buddhism tha to Christianity. Although I disagree with Palton on a lot of issues, Socarte’s Apology by Platon can be considered a swansong of the free man. About Mrs. Kirchner, give me a few hours.

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  47. on November 3, 2007 at 1:24 pm David Alexander

    I’ve yet to understand the nostalgia in this blog for female subjugation. Most of the men here would bitch and blather on about how their stay at home wives suck off their income and waste their money, and I’m damned assured that many of you would dump her for a younger wife if possible. Those of you blathering on about women’s vaginas due to high sex usage would probably bitch about their vaginas after the first child, and by the time the fifth child comes, your wives become the “ugly fat cows” that you detest now.

    while the male underclass will grow, and with increased sexual frustration will become even more violent

    Well something must explain why David Alexander and a good number of other sexless men don’t go around raping women and commiting other violent acts?

    Actually DA, I’m not religious at all.

    I’ll remember not to call you a religious weirdo.

    About Mrs. Kirchner, give me a few hours.

    I was actually expecting you to say she was some evil woman who should be at home making babies.

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  48. “If current trends continue, demographers say, there will be 156 women per 100 men earning degrees by 2020.”

    1) Most degrees warned by women are in non-technical fields and serve as little more than a “finishing school” for women who earn them. Their value is extremely inflated, and job markets are noticing this fact. I just read of a mini-trend where employers are starting to develop a bias against Ivy League graduates because of their sense of entitlement and salary demands.

    The implications of female education are not only the collapse of the system of monogamous marriage the Cathoic Church

    With all due respect, this is adolescent-Libertarian geek-speak. Western monogamy pre-dates Christianity.

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  49. while the male underclass will grow, and with increased sexual frustration will become even more violent

    While I do see the underclass growing in general, I don’t think males will outpace females in this regard.

    I agree with David that there isn’t necessarily a firm correlation between low mating opportunities and violence. Woman-less males will probably remain sedated by pornography and video games.

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  50. More likely, nouveau-poor men with families will be violent. They’ll have more reasons for it.

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  51. on November 3, 2007 at 2:53 pm David Alexander

    One of the issues that’s inflating the number of female college students is the fact that men who go into various trades don’t go to college, but various vocational programs. In contrast, early childhood education, secretarial and paralegal, and nursing, heavily female positions now require some sort of college training.

    Plus, the military sucks up the men (which has considerably more men than women) who would have gone to college.

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  52. I’m damned assured that many of you would dump her for a younger wife if possible.
    That’s why from the start the man should marry a wife about ten yours youngers. That prevents a lot of problems in the future, because she will always be his young, pretty thing. (Youth, like wealth, is also a relative issue).

    I was actually expecting you to say she was some evil woman who should be at home making babies.

    DA, you know holw old Mrs. K is? I believe that women can make great contributions to society, and can do so specially afther all her children are in school, but that is after having children. For example.:
    15 year old girl starts dating her 25 year old future husband.
    18 year old girl after finishing HS marries her husband.
    19 year old wife has her first child child.
    23 year old wife has her third and last child.
    29 year old wifes last born starts school, she starts to go to college to become a paralegal, maybe even a lawyer.
    33 year old wife starts working half shift.
    37 year old wife starts working full shift, her first born dauther marries.
    38 year old woman becomes grandmother and is still young enough to enjoy it.

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  53. Gannon, your timeline is great. Notice what’s missing from it: 18-26 year old girl parties.

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  54. on November 3, 2007 at 5:17 pm David Alexander

    That prevents a lot of problems in the future, because she will always be his young, pretty thing.

    Still, given the talk here, the 40 year old guy with the 35 year old wife will still lust over the 25 year old woman. There’s always somebody younger or richer and better.

    DA, you know holw old Mrs. K is?

    She’s 54, her husband is only a mere 3 years older, and age difference that conforms more to American norms…

    I believe that women can make great contributions to society, and can do so specially afther all her children are in school, but that is after having children.

    The time you listed actually prevents her from actually making a great contribution in society. Her employment options are limited and reduced, and any chance of advancement are low. Why would somebody employ a mother with no career experience over a young person with no family distractions? The only way you’re going to get high-ranking female members of society is to have them start on their careers at a young age.

    BTW, that timeline is highly unfair. While I would be enjoying my twenties traveling and doing fun stuff, my female counterpart will be saddled with three kids in a rather miserable state. Your timelime may be very pro-natalist, but it’s certainly not attractive. Plus, it destroys the current support of my social life, my same age female friends.

    Besides, I am not interested at this age in dating female children. What is so attractive about these young women? They’re immature and silly. They’re teenagers!

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  55. on November 3, 2007 at 5:45 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    “I’ve yet to understand the nostalgia in this blog for female subjugation. Most of the men here would bitch and blather on about how their stay at home wives suck off their income and waste their money…”

    You’re wrong, David. Back in the old days, spending like crazy was seen as something to be ashamed of, not celrbated. There was no Oprah to tell women they should have 1,000 pairs of shoes. Read David Halbertstam’s “The Fifties” for an understanding of that era.

    More importantly, back then men got SOMETHING IN RETURN when they had wives. They got hot meals, ironed clothes and respect. These days, there is none of that, because feminism and the media have given women an entitlement complex and NO SENSE OF SHAME. Please look at blogs like GlennSacks.com and examine the legal and sociological aspects of such a society.

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  56. “While I do see the underclass growing in general, I don’t think males will outpace females in this regard.”

    In terms of violence and general social disfunction – the hallmarks of the underclass – it’s pretty obvious that men will always ‘outpace’ women.

    “I agree with David that there isn’t necessarily a firm correlation between low mating opportunities and violence.”

    Well not among the computer geek demographic you’re probably used to, but there is in the real world. Underclass men will be forced to compete more and more with one another in the future. How many underclass murders have you read about where the act itself was precipitated by some minor infraction, a ‘dissing’ by one party against the other, or some variant? As underclass males have very little of value to begin with in terms of what they can offer the opposite sex, they become increasingly violent in defending their ‘honor’ or ‘reputation’, and explode over the tiniest slights.

    [That said, the effects will be complicated somewhat by the artificially inflated ratio of females to males in underclass neighbourhoods due to the fact that so many males are dead or in jail – but this is only because of agressive competition for females and status in the teenage years.]

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  57. I am waiting for the legal threats from this woman to roll in.

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  58. cuchulainn: I wrote that there isn’t necessarily a firm correlation between low mating opportunities and violence, not between class level and vioience.

    America’s underclass blacks are violent, but certainly not for lack of available women. Migrant Hispanic workers are unaccompanied males, but their violence levels are .

    In terms of violence and general social disfunction – the hallmarks of the underclass – it’s pretty obvious that men will always ‘outpace’ women

    In terms of violence, yes. In terms of general disfunction, no, since children born to disfunctional parents in disfunctional classes are roughly 50/50 boys-girls. Makes and females manifest their disfunctions differently. Typical female disfunction: meth-addicted teenage mother on welfare.

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  59. “Migrant Hispanic workers are unaccompanied males, but their violence levels are.. .” (truncated) “…. comparatively lower.”

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  60. You’re wrong, David. Back in the old days, spending like crazy was seen as something to be ashamed of, not celrbated.

    Cause you know, back then people had cheap imported clothing, money and liberal credit policies…

    More importantly, back then men got SOMETHING IN RETURN when they had wives. They got hot meals, ironed clothes and respect.

    Yet, for some reason, I can get a maid, cook, and prostitute to fulfill those jobs and do a better job of it.

    Again, I don’t see the advantage of that social structure. I don’t want some woman to provide food, iron clothes, and “respect” so she can have a place to live. That’s just not the type of society where I want to live. She should be able and free to earn on her own, and the same for me. But hey, you feel entitled to a woman who treats you like a God…

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  61. on November 3, 2007 at 9:53 pm Gunslingergregi

    David we are entitled to have a woman treat us like a god. We can also treat them like a goddess. ie they don’t have to have some stranger telling them what to do at a “career” I mean wtf when they go to work there boss expects them to treat him/her like a god right? Why can’t a husband expect his wife to treat him like one? Why the big deal with a woman treating her man like a king? what is the problem with it? Why not have heaven on earth?

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  62. on November 3, 2007 at 10:46 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    News flash!!

    Roissy,

    The Daily News Story says the couple filed suit with the groom’s mother, Tobi, meaning his mom is a lawyer. This is prolly why he is attracted to such the vagina-male that is his wife.

    This is the kind of male produced by women who are lawyers. They go on to marry dear old mom. I don’t know whether we should hate a guy like this or feel sorry for him.

    Link:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2007/10/16/2007-10-16_newlyweds_file_suit_against_posy_floral_-3.html

    Seriously speaking, after looking at both her photos, I’d rather be with a drag queen.

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  63. David we are entitled to have a woman treat us like a god. We can also treat them like a goddess.

    No, as far as I’m concerned we’re entitled to nothing regardless of gender. I’m realistic, and you can’t have heaven on earth. Your demands for royal treatment look like grounds for an abusive relationship. Taking my s/o out of the workforce only cripples her mentally and emotionally, and removes her (financial) independence from me. In effect, she turns into a ward dependent upon me for everything, no different from a child, and that’s very dangerous situation. I wouldn’t want to be a leech upon my wife.

    BTW, if your boss demands treatment reserved only for a deity, then I’d look for a new employer.

    Il n’y’a pas des dieux sur la terre.

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  64. on November 3, 2007 at 11:27 pm Gunslingergregi

    You havn’t noticed woman in the workplace. A lot of times they f the boss 🙂 Just being realitic. What does that tell you.

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  65. on November 3, 2007 at 11:30 pm Gunslingergregi

    Rather have her be dependant on a company for her every need lol

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  66. (Sigh) Once again: go rent “Fight Club”

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  67. Stop taking a fucking movie with Brad Pitt so seriously. Come on, it’s a fucking movie. I maybe slightly drunk as I write this, but I learned at a young age that movies don’t teach any useful values. I think everybody here should be smart enough to realize that too.

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  68. on November 4, 2007 at 3:19 am Days of Broken Arrows

    I actually agree with DA for once. I just hate movies in general and consider them a completely waste-of-time art form. It figures women love movies and blog about them — they are fodder for people who live in fantasy land.

    The last time I was in a theater was 1997. When Sept. 11 happened and people started talking about what would happen if we were under Sharia Law, I started thinking “Well, at least they’d shut all the theaters down.”

    I think the movies are at least partially responsible for what’s happened with American women and their insane expectations over the past 50 years. I could go on, but I don’t want to be totally insane. I’m sure “Fight Club” is a decent movie, but it’s Hollywood, so I have no interest.

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  69. How about this: I hate work, and I don’t see why women should get excused from it.

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  70. David,

    The reason I keep harping about “Fight Club” is that it is a very accurate portrayal of the feminist utopia planned for us. It is a world in which women have ALL the economic and political power (in addition to pussy power, of which every reader of this blog–male or female–is far more than familiar), and men are shunted off to the sidelines.

    Young men will then spend their days working as waiters at banquets at which feminists give each other awards (and peeing in their soup), and their off hours beating each other senseless and passing around the females that hang with them like joints (like the Helena Bonham Carter character).

    Consider exactly how close we are to that, with the prospect of the cunt president with her cunt campaign manager, her cunt coterie, and her one cunt child who will soon be 28 with no spawn of her own.

    I can assure you that they don’t have your best interests in mind.

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  71. I can assure you that they don’t have your best interests in mind.

    Nor do the alpha males… 🙂

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  72. In general, most movies do not represent reality, and are not useful. There are of course some exceptions like the “Fight Club”. In general, movies (specially Americans) are hugely political, and always have been, and therefore promote lies. Nowadays the promote the feminist utopia (definitely more like nightmare if you are a man. One of the most typical lie is the fale black judge, there is nothing like the featuring of a black, fat, ugly judge to make Holly wood orgasm. And let’s not even start about Nazi films. You always see a rather GI unit fighting of hordes of rather stupid fighting Nazis. The problem is that’s essentially a lie. The Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS units were a rather small, elite battlehardened units. Usually a small unit of Germans hidding in the bushes or the forest, backed up by a small cannon or a Panzerjäger were fighting of hordes of Americans (Most troops were battling in the east, were the real war was). That sniper movie and maybe even that older movie Montecassino give a much fairer portarit. In general, Hollywood portrays life. I think that you can learn more of human nature by watching Ranma 1/2 or even Inuyasha by the great Rumiko Takahashi, the greatest mangaka in my opinion. I like her work because it features realtionships between HS girls and young men in their twenties: for example Akane/Kasumi with Dr. Tofu, or in Maison Ikkoku Kyoko with Soijiru or Godai with a HS girl and even a middle school girl (although in this case the relationship is rather, but not only platonic. Also I like Takahashi because she features secure, smart, yet femmenine, loyal and femenine female characters.

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  73. it should have said female black judge

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  74. it should say rather small GI unit

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  75. it should say: Hollywood features lies, not life
    Edit option please

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  76. This may be a good opportunity to make a small list of good movies with traditionalist messages. How about:

    Cinderella Man
    Fight Club (although the ending was retarded)
    Passion of Christ
    Red Dawn
    Forrest Gump
    Lord of the Rings

    others?

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  77. Ok, way off topic here but I’ll comment on the black female judges so popular in Hollywood. Their ubiquity is actually quite racist in my opinion, because it is the easy way out for producers to kid themselves that they have a “diverse” cast. It’s easy to cast a black female judge who appears for 2 minutes in a throwaway role instead of an interesting, multi-dimensional character who happens to be black.

    Along the same lines, Hollywood’s adoption of “actor” to mean a male or female person who acts, and the abolition of the word “actress” belies real chauvinism. Using the male term for both sexes suggests the male term is better and the female term worse. What was wrong with “actress”? It’s a woman who acts. Is there something wrong with a word than means “woman who acts”? Hollywood thinks so.

    It’s yet another example of fem PC-ness that women should be exactly like men.

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  78. Part of the PC phenomenon that Azuzuru describes has to do with the fact that you can’t show any black character as flawed in any way, much less a villain or a plain old scumbag. That’s why every mugger in every sitcom or movie is white. Like the white thugs in Newark, NJ in “Harold and Kumar.”

    It’s like I’m back in my childhood behind the friggin’ Iron Curtain, where not a peep was allowed about the Soviet Army, or Russians in general, being anything but our glorious saviors and comarades.

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  79. Azuzuru–

    Another example of the pussification of Hollywood is the replacement of “and the winner is . . .” with “and the Oscar goes to . . .”

    since we don’t want to hurt anybody’s poor widdle feewings by reminding her that she’s a fucking loser.

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  80. Part of the PC phenomenon that Azuzuru describes has to do with the fact that you can’t show any black character as flawed in any way, much less a villain or a plain old scumbag. That’s why every mugger in every sitcom or movie is white.

    A couple years ago Steve Sailer figured out that more than 80% of the criminals portrayed on the various Law & Order shows over the years were white. In New York, where the shows are set, whites account for something under 5% of felony defendants.

    Something I’ve noticed on TV commercials is the use of black characters in improbable situations. For instance, if a beer ad shows three guys sitting in the living room watching the game, one of them will be black. Or if four young women are sitting in a cafe discussing birth control pills, once again one will be black. I mean, showing racial harmony is unquestionably a good thing, but interracial friendships simply aren’t common enough for these ads to make sense.

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  81. Hollywood may produce a lot of garbage but occasionally some great films do get made with some very talented people. Anyone who refuses to step into a theatre because they cannot select for themselves films worth watching sounds like a religious fundamentalist cook or at a minimum an insufferable bore.

    Reading through many of these comments I get the distinct impression that there are a lot of guys posting that don’t like women at all. To which I ask, if you don’t like women, then why the fuck are you alive? I gather a great deal of the bitterness probably comes from lifelong failures with women. Well, sucks to be you. This notion that men are entitled to the hottest piece of ass is as absurd as the bloated sense of entitlement found in feminists today. No one is entitled to shit in this life.

    It is survival of the fittest folks and parents are among the greatest determinants of your success. Some guys are lucky enough to have had parents that truly prepared them, got them top notch educations, passed on some wealth, and yes, some damn fine genes. Others are not so lucky and those are the breaks. You can reflect upon the 50’s or perhaps the feudal period, idealizing it all you want but it will not arm you for self-realization in the present. We are in fact living in a golden age for many guys looking for a truly diverse and fulfilling sex life without being bogged down with marriage. This is all contingent upon your “package” and what you bring to the table but if you don’t have it then you miss out.

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  82. Reading through many of these comments I get the distinct impression that there are a lot of guys posting that don’t like women at all.
    I’ll answer that one. When I was 23 I started dating a nice 15 year old girl. When she turned 16 we wanted to travel abroad and actually I would have liked to visit some friends in the US, but realized that would be asking for trouble, so we went to Germany. American NGOs are actively trying to raise age of marriage (16) and age of consent in my country (14) under the pretext of protecting children. They want to criminalize my relationship. Therefore, I have very serious issues to be pissed of with American feminists, because they are trying to establish their LEITKULTUR globally.

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  83. “Reading through many of these comments I get the distinct impression that there are a lot of guys posting that don’t like women at all.”

    I get the same feeling, DF. There is a fair amount of misogyny (sp?) on this board. Almost a feeling of glee whilst putting down women, or at least certain types of women. It’s unfortunate, because there’s no need for such negativity. Women are quite wonderful.

    For the record, I love women.

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  84. Gannon,

    You’re ideas of traditional morality and marriage are long irrelevant. We’re in a very different era now, and I don’t care to go back to an age where our genetic tendencies determines societal patterns. Our genes are out of date for an enlightened era. If you were born a woman and were told that you’re purpose is not to do great things and change the world, but rather have children, how would you feel?

    On another note, I don’t think the men here hate women, from what I’ve seen of reading the blog for a month. It is simply that they realize that the media feeds us a certain diet of feminism and how to treat women that is totally out of whack with the real world. Our frustration at being deceived can appear to be hatred of women. But honestly, women can be lovable creatures, and men can be horrible brutes.

    At the same time, I also have to reconcile the fact that a gangster straight out of jail will always be more attractive than a nerdy, boring computer programmer who lives a totally moral life.

    Don’t blame the men on this board. Blame the continuous conflict between how the world SHOULD work, and how it actually works because of the flaws of man.

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  85. When I was 23 I started dating a nice 15 year old girl.

    While I’ll refrain from calling you a child molester, I’ll be frank and say that I think you’re scum for preying on girls at that age. I’ve had to pick up the emotionally depleted shells of men who were your age who found “young girls” attractive, and let’s just say that it wasn’t pretty. Those girls were abused by men looking for naive young women who were eager and willing to please, and those men left those women with bitterness and rage and hatred of men and sex. The reasons you demand young girls like that are the same reasons that less civilized groups and cults impose marriage on a young age. Brainwash them into it while they’re young, idealistic, and their minds are like sponges, and by the time they realize it’s horrible, it’s too late and turn them into virtual social pariahs if they do leave.

    BTW, before you say I’m “brainwashed” by feminists, women who prey on young men like that are scum too. It’s one thing if you as a 23 year old dated an 18 year old girl, or even a frigging 17 year old girl, but as far as I’m concerned, a 15 year old girl is a child irregardless of the fact that she may have started puberty at 9 or 10.

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  86. “Something I’ve noticed on TV commercials is the use of black characters in improbable situations. For instance, if a beer ad shows three guys sitting in the living room watching the game, one of them will be black. Or if four young women are sitting in a cafe discussing birth control pills, once again one will be black. I mean, showing racial harmony is unquestionably a good thing, but interracial friendships simply aren’t common enough for these ads to make sense.”

    Peter, I totally disagree with you that interracial friendships aren’t that common. In a city like DC, in my experience, they were fairly common for young professionals or just anyone in any job setting.

    I think the point you’re trying to make is that these commercials are inaccurate in that they show small, random groups of white people always with one black. From a purely statistical standpoint, this is unlikely to be as common as shown on TV.

    In DC, I had many more black friends I hung with on a “random” basis than I do now in Las Vegas, simply because there is a much greater African-American presence in the DC area than in LV. (That’s not to say that Vegas doesn’t have black people — there is a sizable black community here, but nowhere near the percentage representation in the DC area). So, if you followed me every day in DC, maybe 1 in 3 days, you would see me hanging out with one or several black friends, whereas now, in the milieu I’m in, it’s much less common.

    That said, during the reign of “Friends”, a lot of my black friends in the DC area had major issues with that show, because it depicted a circle of white people and their concentric circles of acquaintances, and black people were hardly ever represented. Black people resented that show and often related that it had an unspoken exclusionist subtext that they found ridiculous at best, and racist at worst.

    And yes, I have also noted the ubiquity of black female judges and other token characters in Hollywood, and do find it’s an absurd but clever way of throwing a bone to minorities with one hand, while depriving them of substantive roles with the other.

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  87. It’s funny how discussion issues on this blog tend to carry over from one post to the next. Roissy’s last story was about race, and now we’re talking about race again, in a post that started out about female attorneys.

    I say we go back to talking shit about female lawyers — much more fun!!

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  88. “At the same time, I also have to reconcile the fact that a gangster straight out of jail will always be more attractive than a nerdy, boring computer programmer who lives a totally moral life.”

    Come on, John Smith. There is nothing to reconcile here because it makes perfect sense. To generalize, one man is a take-charge leader who takes what he wants from the world. The other man is a nerd whose social circle consists of World of Warcraft and Linux user groups. Of course many women would choose the gangster over the nerd, because his manly qualities are more attractive.

    Who would you prefer to date? A bad girl bombshell model or a plain Jane girl who spends weekends at home knitting?

    Attraction is not a choice. Read that again. Attraction is not a choice. Women are attracted to strong, dominant men who know what they want and lead other men. If a gangster has those qualities and the nerd doesn’t, the gangster will get tail and the nerd won’t. It’s built into our genetic programming. Morality has nothing to do with it.

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  89. John Smith,

    “At the same time, I also have to reconcile the fact that a gangster straight out of jail will always be more attractive than a nerdy, boring computer programmer who lives a totally moral life.”

    Not at all. That would depend on which one of the two men is more attractive physically.

    Being a gangster or a geek might affect some physical attributes (jailed gangsters probably work out more than geeks, etc.) but being a gangster or a geek has no effect whatsoever on such important attributes as height, facial features or hair thickness.

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  90. Hey Vera,

    While physical characteristics are a material factor in what attracts a woman to a man, they are easily trumped by personality traits — strong, confident, dominant. In caveman terms women are attracted to traits that suggest a man can protect and provide for her (leadership, dominance) whereas men are attracted to traits suggesting fertility (youth, a .7 waist/hip ratio). Of course, both sexes are attracted to personality traits like sense of humor and ability pound a six-pack.

    Remember, the world is loaded with ugly guy/hot woman pairs, not so much handsome man/Rosanne Barr pairs.

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  91. To John Smoth: problem is, that our western society is being replaced by other societies which have more traditional female roles. (muaslims, cough, Europe, cough)
    To DA: different countries are ruled by different laws. Or is US law to rule the whole world? By the way, just to provoke you I would like to remember to you that white teenage girls have higher IQs than adult black women, however I haven’t heard that white men shouldn’t date black women because their superior IQ’s would gibve the white men a huge edge/advantage for abuse.
    If white teen girls can’t consent because of their mental capacity, black women couldn’t more so. However nobody argues that.
    Read the bible, read Aristoteles, Goethe, or Shakespeare, European continental law, and they all say that 14-15 year old girls are of nubile age. That is called natural law. The 18 barrier is artificial and has no natural logic. The real moral barrier is puberty.

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  92. prior mail should say Gannon

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  93. If you were […] told that you’re purpose is not to do great things and change the world, but rather have children, how would you feel?

    Everyone, boys and girls, needs to be told that their purpose is not to do great things and change the world, but rather have children. Schools, parents and media telling their children that they are destined for greatness is a phenomenon seen in the wealthier societies. It is a real mistake, and a disservice. Don’t lie to the kids.

    My pet theory is that much of the young adult depression and reluctance to grow up is a result of young people’s fuzzy and lofty ideas of their own specialness clashing with the real world once they grow up.

    To grow up, marry, and have one’s own children is harder and more heroic than it looks. And its a much more meaningful way of actually doing great things and changing the world.

    A little geek reference (heh!): like Captain Kirk (or was it Pickard) said, “stop trying to be a great man. Just be a man.”

    To realize you’re no one special is a first step toward adulthood, and a first step toward doiong somethign meaningful with your life.

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  94. Azuzuru,

    I think that the value of confidence as a market value factor for men is very highly overrated. There are two reasons for that: men’s wishful thinking, because many men like to think that by gaining or faking confidence they can substitute for things that they cannot ever gain or fake, such as missing inches of height; and women’s lies, because many women for some reason are very afraid of appearing appearance-oriented, and say things like “it’s not that I dislike short/fat/bald man because they are short/fat/bald, it’s only because they lack confidence”. Some of them really mean it, but most are lying.

    Pretending not to be overly interested and being somewhat aloof in a pick-up situation, as Roissy usually recommends, is IMO in fact quite useful, but not as a measure of confidence. It is a message to the woman that she will be able to get rid of you if she really wants to, and this is really important to quite a lot of women.

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  95. Stop hitting women with sticks. Whether they are real or verbal. I don’t care how good it makes you feel. It’s just emotions, boys, get a handle on them.

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  96. The problem with the couple is not that she’s a lawyer and he’s a doucbe. The problem is that they are:

    STEREOTYPICAL NEW YORK JEWS.

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  97. having confidence, even if undue, helps you land women that you have a solid shot with. it prevents you from fucking up. it will not as vera has implied win over a woman who as pre selected you as a don’t fuck guy.

    outside of the south big american cities are girl power dominated. the result is a few real studs get to fuck all the hot girls (although don’t fool yourself, model guys with money and connections still have to try hard to get the really hot pussy in new york city) and lower status studs get to fuck the teir below. if you are average for the city (which in NYC means ivy league and 250K plus) then you get the average girls (who are average looking and well educated) and that means you pay and get the pussy when they want the dick. all the “game” can do is keep you from fucking it up.

    gannon (while i don’t agree with his world view) is right in changing where you fish is more important than the lure you use. if you are in latin america or eastern europe (or asiea) being a white american guy can get you pussy you wouldn’t even meet in america with ease.

    IMO the downside of this for the american women (particularly this urban jet set) are spending up till their mid 30s fucking around having a blast and there ends up being very little reason for a man to marry them. you can fuck them without marrying them and if you know the scene you know that this girl has put off “nice guys” in order to fuck the studs whenever possible.

    i blame (in part) the fact that american kids think drinking at bars with their friends is the height of existance (beer commercial branding) and since the drining age is 21 they get caught up in this eternal childhood until it is too late.

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  98. Thank you Che Che for your support. Latinamerica, East Europe or even Western Europe aren´t paradises. Let’s not misunderstand this. But there is no place as hostile for a men as the US to date if you are looking for a longterm relationship. In Latinamerica, you can easily get away with dating women ten tears younger in your late twenties, whereas a thirty year old wanting to date 18-20 year old girls would get a lot of shit. As an average guy, you have acces to relatively cute girls. I think I have told the story of a guy in his late twenties who went to a congregation, he was single. The congregation introduced to him several single mothers of around 30, but he refused. When he started to befriend a 19 year old girl of the congregation and started dating, he was threatened by various guys that wanted to beat him up for messing with a Child. Another problem in the US is obesity. I like slightly chubby girls, and have no rpoblems with 23-26 BMI’s (although these girls might ballon in the future). The problem is there so many morbidly obese women who are simply untouchable, increasing the scarcity for women. Another problem is the older population. In Latinamerica the population is still much younger, so it’s much simpler to meet and woo young girls because there are simply more available.

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  99. DA:
    While I’ll refrain from calling you a child molester, I’ll be frank and say that I think you’re scum for preying on girls at that age.

    sanctimony and infantilizing of women are the preserve of bitter, misandrist sex-haters.

    vera:
    I think that the value of confidence as a market value factor for men is very highly overrated.

    on the contrary.
    confidence (i.e., a dominant personality) is the MOST IMPORTANT attribute a man can bring to the field.

    There are two reasons for that: men’s wishful thinking, because many men like to think that by gaining or faking confidence they can substitute for things that they cannot ever gain or fake, such as missing inches of height;

    i have seen with my own eyes men with objectively negative traits (no money, shortness, fatness) score hot babes based on the willful strength of their personalities alone.
    it is the great lie of our times that men have to toil and serve the interests of society in order to have a shot at a mediocre woman.

    and women’s lies, because many women for some reason are very afraid of appearing appearance-oriented, and say things like “it’s not that I dislike short/fat/bald man because they are short/fat/bald, it’s only because they lack confidence”. Some of them really mean it, but most are lying.

    while appearance matters to women, it isn’t nearly as important for them as it is for men.
    they aren’t lying when they say that confidence — which is a prettied-up word for describing alpha male dominance — is what truly attracts them.

    Pretending not to be overly interested and being somewhat aloof in a pick-up situation, as Roissy usually recommends, is IMO in fact quite useful, but not as a measure of confidence. It is a message to the woman that she will be able to get rid of you if she really wants to, and this is really important to quite a lot of women.

    wishful thinking much?
    the message sent to women by male aloofness is that he has his pick of women and can take or leave any one of them at any time. this is highly attractive to women not because it gives them a guilt-free escape hatch (twisted sophistry if i ever heard it) but because a man who is loved by many women is an attractive man.

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  100. John Smith:

    “We’re in a very different era now, and I don’t care to go back to an age where our genetic tendencies determines societal patterns. Our genes are out of date for an enlightened era.”

    Are you really that stupid or do you just work hard at it?

    Our genes have been around for millions of years. Our “enlightened” era has lasted about forty and will soon come to an end.

    Now which do you think is going to prevail?

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  101. #96, why don’t you just go read “Jew watch”. You’re clearly a bigot.

    Gannon, here are the ranges of BMI and what they mean:
    Underweight = <18.5
    Normal weight = 18.5-24.9
    Overweight = 25-29.9
    Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

    When guys like you call a woman with a BMI of 23-24.9 “slightly chubby”, you’re just adding to the horrible societal message that women who aren’t model-stick-thin must be fat. Try knowing a thing or two before writing.

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  102. beth, let’s be defensive.
    if he thinks that is the BMI of what he calls slightly chubby then that’s fine — keep in mind a
    different bmi standard for people of different heights (with shorter people being fatter with a lower bmi than taller people) and that there are sub divisions. gannon picked the high side of normal weight, which is ACCORDING TO THE BREAKDOWN YOU POSTED exactly what he said it was — slightly chubby. any higher and you are in the overweight area (which means fat).

    of course there are limits with bmi, but unless one is tall or muscular (and almost no women are even close to muscular, particularly outside of athletics) then gannon’s description of slightly chubby is spot on and your reaction us cunty

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  103. beth, your normal weight category is a little off. it should go down to 17.6 BMI. and since maximal healthy weight and ideal attractiveness weight are not the same, i would add another category for ideal attractive BMI with a range of 17.6 to 21.

    When guys like you call a woman with a BMI of 23-24.9 “slightly chubby”, you’re just adding to the horrible societal message that women who aren’t model-stick-thin must be fat.

    23-24.9 is on the upper end of healthy weight. a lot depends how she carries the extra flab. is the fat distributed in her tits? that’s good. all in her ass? that’s gross. if it’s uniformly distributed in such a way that her hourglass figure is not affected and there are no noticeable cellulite pockets, then the few extra pounds won’t be a big deal.

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  104. on November 5, 2007 at 7:29 pm David Alexander

    By the way, just to provoke you I would like to remember to you that white teenage girls have higher IQs than adult black women, however I haven’t heard that white men shouldn’t date black women because their superior IQ’s would gibve the white men a huge edge/advantage for abuse

    The big difference is that the adult black females in question are emotionally mature adults. The issue at hand is not their intellect, but emotional capabilities, and from what I’ve seen, these older men take advantage of their naivete and leave men like myself to pick up the broken pieces. These girls may has passed puberty, but emotionally, they are simply not ready for any serious relationship. Trust me, I worked enough hours at my high school’s campus ministry to see this first hand…

    Yes, you may quote from the Bible or ancient philosophers or celebrated authors of litterature, but as far as I’m concerned, they lived in a different time with a different philosophical outlook. I personally at my age cannot see a 15 year old girl as a potential sex partner or long-term relationship. I simply see somebody who could be my little sister or my neice in five more years. To me, girls at that age are simply kids, and it’s just degrading to see them being used by adult males.

    Everyone, boys and girls, needs to be told that their purpose is not to do great things and change the world, but rather have children

    That’s rather mundane and that just makes life even more miserable. Why should I bring more mid-level low achieving pathethic black children into the world who won’t become anything special and due to the genetic inheritance of low IQ have a good chance of being criminals and welfare mothers?

    My pet theory is that much of the young adult depression and reluctance to grow up is a result of young people’s fuzzy and lofty ideas of their own specialness clashing with the real world once they grow up.

    No, it’s because becoming an “adult” and raising children is boring activity. Yes the kids love you and they’re cute, but damn it’s expensive and gets in the way of going on fun vacations and acquiring expensive stuff.

    if you are in latin america or eastern europe (or asiea) being a white american guy can get you pussy you wouldn’t even meet in america with ease.

    Retarded question: Where should a black guy who likes white women go?

    Another problem in the US is obesity

    The increase obesity epidemic also effects the males too. Plus, I also suspect that it’s due to the US’s high population of German and Celtic descendents, which are the areas of Europe that currently have the worse obesity problems in Europe. Then add the large portions standard in American restaurants, and the fact that corn syrup is present in nearly everything we eat or drink. Plus, we tend to drive everywhere, but mass transit using Europeans and Canadians are slowly entering the obesity phase as well.

    sanctimony and infantilizing of women are the preserve of bitter, misandrist sex-haters

    You can be a pervert and collector of porn and still think that under-18 girls are off-limits to adult men.

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  105. David, a black guy like you (maybe less-than-beta, I’m guessing from your posts) would probably do better in the UK and Western Europe.

    I’m not kidding about this. Women are much more broad-minded about their attractions to men there, and not constrained by decades of programming from women’s magazines and “Sex and the City”.

    Yes, those cultural tropes and memes exist over there, but they’re a much less influential part of the collective mindset of women. When I go to Germany (which is just about every month), I’m astonished when I see hordes of attractive young women browsing bookstores — and not looking at American-style “chick lit”, either, but serious books.

    European women are also unencumbered by the 150 years of cultural programming that exists in the U.S. that athletes and jocks are the most desirable kind of men, and that intellectual guys are undesirable. (I have an elaborate theory about this — it has to do with America’s frontier heritage. As we pushed westward, European intellectual values were gradually watered down because well-educated teachers were almost nonexistent in farm and prairie settlements. In those places, brawn — how much hay you could bale — became more imporant than brains, and these values were incorporated into our school systems, where athletic prowess was given primacy over academics. But I digress…)

    In Western Europe, a quiet, unconventional black male like might do a lot better than you’d expect with the ladies, if you can project a modicum of style and confidence. Try places like London, Paris, Amsterdam, and Berlin.

    On the other hand, you should probably avoid Eastern Europe, as they’re not accustomed to black faces and there are very few immigrants of color there.

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  106. So Roissy, where the pounds land helps to determine attractiveness for you, right? Then essentially what you’re saying is “beauty is in the eye (or hand) of the beholder, BMI be damned”. Either way, Gannon’s still wrong.

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  107. Roissy:

    “I have seen with my own eyes men with objectively negative traits (no money, shortness, fatness) score hot babes based on the willful strength of their personalities alone.”

    Oh, I am sure you have. If you look at people’s mating habits long enough you’d see pretty much anything, and there certainly exist women who find confidence very sexy – they are just not all that common. OTOH very confident men are not that common either, so I guess they find their market niche.

    Some men with objectively negative traits can well score women on the basis of their other positive traits if they have some. Some women would gladly do a short guy if he has just the right kind of face and hair, some don’t mind the guy being fat as long he is really tall, some would gladly have a bald guy as long as he has really impressive muscles, etc. The guys tend to attribute all of the above to the mighty strengths of their personalities.

    they aren’t lying when they say that confidence – which is a prettied-up word for describing alpha male dominance – is what truly attracts them.

    I know that at least some of them aren’t. For the most part, however, the women who say things like “I don’t date short guys because they have so little confidence” somehow tend to settle for a guy who does not have any more confidence than the short guy they blew off, but who is considerably taller.

    I am not saying that confidence is useless, just that it is quite overrated. A guy obviously does need at least some level of confidence to be in the game to begin with. If he doesn’t have enough confidence to approach a woman his chances are bad, and if he doesn’t have enough confidence to even go anywhere where women are, his chances are nonexistent.

    Really high confidence also enables one to use brute force: if the rejection does not bother you at all you can ask as many women as you like and eventually somebody will say yes.

    The message sent to women by male aloofness is that he has his pick of women and can take or leave any one of them at any time.

    That’s right. “Leave” is the important word here.

    I know that there are exceptions, and you seem to be one of them, but IME for most men and women who are picking up a partner for a one-night stand it is quite desirable to know that they can get rid of the person in the morning without much scandal and screaming.

    A man who is loved by many women is an attractive man.

    That factor does exist, but you generally need to be loved by very, very many women for that, not just show the “take or leave” attitude. Another thing is that often after most of the women in some circle have had sex with some particular guy, at least some of the rest will try him out of sheer curiosity. It’s not the same as being loved by many women, but hey, it does get him laid.

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  108. So Roissy, where the pounds land helps to determine attractiveness for you, right?

    no. i’m talking about a few extra pounds here. 15 or more pounds overweight and it doesn’t matter where the pounds sit — there are only so many places to deposit all that extra fat without significantly negatively impacting the overall appearance.
    basically, the further a girl bloats from the ideal attractive BMI (17.6 to 21) the fewer men will be sexually aroused by the sight of her.
    extinction threshold occurs at BMI 30 (clinically obese) where 95%+ of men would feel viscerally repulsed by her.

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  109. Why am I wrong Beth? I said 23 to 26 is slightly chubby, and the numbers you provided proof my statements. In fact, I’m, probably one of the few guys here who has a special liking for the more voluptuous women, most guys here are dreaming of skinny 17.6 to 21 BMi girls.

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  110. “I also have to reconcile the fact that a gangster straight out of jail will always be more attractive than a nerdy, boring computer programmer who lives a totally moral life.”

    I’ve only ever dated computer nerds, since I am one. No computer knowledge = no interest from me. I play video games, read manga and watch anime with my husband. I prefer quietness to partying, and I am extremely parsimonious with finances and don’t spend a lot on myself (my wedding was $500, and my honeymoon $3000 at my husband’s insistance). In general I find people closer to my own temperament to be more attractive than gangsters.

    “Attraction is not a choice. Women are attracted to strong, dominant men who know what they want and lead other men.”

    True. I like confident, intelligent (and tall) nerds, as the extremely self-pitying kind tend to creep me out a bit. And yes, appearances don’t play into attraction for women nearly as much as it does for men.

    “I think the movies are at least partially responsible for what’s happened with American women and their insane expectations over the past 50 years.”

    Movies, TV and the mass media in general have a lot more brainwashing power than generally recognized. I know that when I stopped watching TV most of my self-esteem issues have practically gone away.

    “the message sent to women by male aloofness is that he has his pick of women and can take or leave any one of them at any time.”

    That doesn’t work with every woman. Hot and furious pursuit works on me far better, and to date I’ve not been able to resist a man who just threw his whole heart and mind at me and made it abundantly clear to me that he was in love with me. Aloof men just make me think that they don’t like me, so why should I bother wasting time on them? Of course, this method has ensured that I ended up with some very geeky men indeed, but I was definitely attracted to them.

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  111. To DA:
    Britain or Germany are probably good places for a black man to date, I agree with JoeT.. Latinamerican women and east european women however in general won’t date blacks, with the exception of Brazil. However, in Brazil, you have great chances to meet a goodlooking white or mulata.

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  112. That doesn’t work with every woman. Hot and furious pursuit works on me far better,

    hope, you make a good point. the perfect approach for a guy is found in striking a balance between making his intentions clear and not coming off as desperate.

    it’s the difference between confidently pursuing a woman without fear of losing her because he knows his options are limitless and frantically chasing a woman driven by the fear that there is no other woman out there who would have him.

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  113. OK, I should know better than to let David Alexander hijack another thread, but I can’t resist.

    and leave men like myself to pick up the broken pieces.
    Lines like this seem to lead to the conclusion that you’re a female who, for some reason, likes to troll this board posing as a male.

    I personally at my age cannot see a 15 year old girl as a potential sex partner or long-term relationship.
    For once I agree with you – but only if you insert the word ‘American’ between old and girl. If you travel much, you’ll find that teenaged women (the term is appropriate in this context) have much more realistic views and aspirations for relationships than their American counterparts. And, for that matter, than even 25-year-old American girls (again, the term is appropriate).

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  114. on November 5, 2007 at 11:23 pm David Alexander

    Lines like this seem to lead to the conclusion that you’re a female who, for some reason, likes to troll this board posing as a male.

    Haha, nope, contrary to what you think, I’m a guy. One of my friends suspects my attitude is probably caused by the equal digit ratio of my index and ring fingers…

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  115. As much as you desperately want to believe your hard work and ivy league credentials matters to your mating prospects, ladies, men don’t give a shit what you do for a living.

    As the marriage choices of male lawyers, doctors, execs, and other elites show – this is utter bs. If a woman wants to marry an Ivy League professional, her best bet is to become one herself.

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  116. #115 anonymous. YOUR comment is utter bs. Male Ivy League professionals (whose numbers continue to dwindle in the face of the feminist juggernaut) do not hook up with women who are going to compete with them every inch of the way. While I’m not suggesting that there are large numbers of Henry Higgins/Eliza Doolittle matches, those that work best involve a male Ivy League professional and an elementary school teacher, nurse, or librarian.

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  117. I agree with 115 – most of my married ivy league undergrad & med school classmates are married to other ivy league-educated professional women with the right pedigree. This “assortive mating” pattern seems to holding at least on the coasts.

    I don’t know what theoretically works “best” but I can tell you that in practice, very few of my male colleagues date nurses, much less marry them. Class (of which her education plays an important part) matters to a lot of men when it comes to choosing a wife. Getting that ivy degree is a good investment for a woman who wants to marry one of these guys.

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  118. in terms of what gives a man a hard-on, a woman’s “class” or occupation has zero bearing.

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  119. Most women want to be a wife, not just the chick a guy screws around with before he settles down with one. And in terms of what makes a woman a candidate to be a wife & mother to his kids, lots of stuff like her class, education, religion/religiosity, family, occupation (particularly as a marker of class & status) etc. can matter a lot, especially the higher you go up the socioeconomic ladder. These factors can outweigh looks, as is fairly obvious from any social gathering where these couples gather. But sure, if a woman mainly wants to be hard-on material, then not much matters but her looks.

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  120. Wow. I don’t know if I’m gonna take that LSAT now. It seems like it might be the start of a WHOLE lot of trouble…

    Maybe becoming a high school teacher instead won’t be so bad. At least I’ll have vacations.

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  121. a loveless, sexless marriage is not a marriage. call it what it is — a business partnership with tax benefits. and then don’t be surprised when hubby satisfies his true desires with a hot mistress from the local diner.

    anyhow, you’re flailing here. beauty first and foremost makes a woman a candidate for marriage, especially to a man who isn’t cowed by familial pressure or the straitjacket of his social station. now smarts may play a secondary role in deciding who to marry, but then job and education are merely proxy markers for native smarts.

    keep in mind that much of the assortative mating phenomenon (which is way overblown by mediocre-looking women wishing against all odds that their high-powered careers really will win them an alpha husband based on projection of their own desires) is in fact a natural outgrowth of dating in a limited social environment. many silicon valley nerdboys, for instance, marry nerdgirls because that is who they see and interact with every day. so it’s a bit of misleading bullshit to say the nerds are actively turning down dates and marriage proposals from hot waitresses in favor of ballbusting careerist chicks.

    btw, i’ll dig it up, but there was a study done recently which showed that female doctors are having a helluva harder time finding marriageable men than male doctors are finding marriageable women. in fact, one of the complaints from the fem-docs was that the men were dating “down” by choosing nurses over fellow doctors.

    and that kid went HA HAAAW!

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  122. Which brings us to that other dumb Cinderella female fantasy Hollywood loves to peddle – she’s a pretty maid or waitress or something and some upper crust dude shows up and falls madly in love with her and marries her. The excreble maid-blue blood politician love story in Maid in Manhattan is typical of this genre which reaches its hilarious nadir with Pretty Woman’s ceo-street hooker romance.

    Talk about instilling unrealistic expectations in female audiences. Not to come over all Marxist but social class is hardly irrelevant, even in 2007 America. Cross-class marriage has never been very common anywhere in the world and can be a tough road for both parties.

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  123. People usually marry people like themselves. That goes for race, religion, IQ, social class, what have you. Opposites attract is for sitcoms. This is not news.

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  124. “many silicon valley nerdboys, for instance, marry nerdgirls because that is who they see and interact with every day.”

    Although there is a site to promote this sort of thing:

    http://www.gk2gk.com

    I can tell you as a geek myself and father of an autistic child that this is not a good idea. Nerdboy would be far better off with the hot waitress if he can score her.

    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aspergers_pr.html

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  125. […] picture their egos are impenetrable fortresses of self-regard.  They clearly outstrip men in the ego stakes.  Anyhow, sluts who sleep around for validation don’t require game to close.  Simply acting […]

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  126. on April 16, 2008 at 8:22 pm fanfrickingtastic

    So amusing. You hate us, we hate you. It’s all fair, so long as you’re funny….and this is hilarious. My only problem with your whole analysis is that you assume women care about how men feel toward our degree/looks/afeminine-bitterbitch-blackened-souls-of-ballcuttery. If you want a sweet little teacher to stay home and bare all your little “alpha” spawn…then have at it!

    I’m not bitter that you don’t care about my degree. Hell, I’m not even bitter. I just can’t stand that some (read most DC Douchebags) choose to employ lies and trickery to get what they want…and they let their egos just run rampant all over town jerking each other off.

    Don’t pretend to be a nice guy, when you aren’t. It’s really that easy.

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  127. […] The pleasure axis measures the stimulation you feel from banging her and just generally looking at her naked. As you can see, the pleasure curve for quality pussy is exponential. Jumping from a 7 to an 8 adds more units of stimulating pleasure to the experience than jumping from a 6 to a 7 would add. Any girls 4 and lower and you’ll hardly notice the difference in pleasure — it’ll all just be wet holes and darkness and stopwatches and running out while she’s in the bathroom. The penis icons drive the point home even better. At a girl rating of 5, you’re chubbing out in anticipation of sex. Anticipating sex with a 7.5 gives you a full hard-on. When there’s a 10 in your bed, your dick is so hard it’s sprouted Wolverine claws. Perfect for female lawyers! […]

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  128. […] advice to men has always been simple — don’t get married. The blessing of marriage is no longer needed to score a steady supply of sex and […]

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  129. […] For a woman to succeed in a physically competitive endeavor, she must become more like… a man. It is […]

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  130. […] reminds me… I haven’t torn a new one in lawyer chicks in a while. Where’s my thesaurus? The Amazonian Alpha, although she may break many hearts, is perhaps […]

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  131. While dating/marrying a female Lawyer is possibly the worst decision a man can make, marrying a female DOCTOR can be a good decision :

    1) She is trained to care for people, and empathize with them, unlike a lawyer, who is trained to ruin people’s lives.

    2) The female doctor makes a lot of money, thereby eliminating the propect of a man being destroyed financially in divorce court. The lawyer woman, while well-paid, will always destroy you in divorce court, due to her being able to represent herself, while you have to pay your own lawyer.

    So a female doctor can be a good choice.

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  132. On the other hand, a man becoming a lawyer is likely to be FAR more alpha than a male doctor.

    1) Lawyers are trained to be aggressive, cruel, yet smooth talkers. All are essential alpha traits.

    2) A male lawyer is the one man who will not get reamed in divorce court. This invulnerability shield alone will make him more attractive to women.

    So, male lawyer = far more alpha than male doctor.

    female doctor = far more suitable for relationship than female lawyer.

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  133. […] of women from the wedding flower story. They usually sound like they are more in love with the idea of $15,000 wedding flowers than they are with their man. They never chase, and their men are in the permanently disabling […]

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  134. Fanfrikingtastic, what do you have against teachers? It’s a respectable profession with a decent starting salary good
    benefits.

    Otherwise, I agree with most of the posters here about these female lawyers. However, I think the same can be said of female publicists, who are also quite the shrews. I can understand men not being interested in such castrating bitches.

    But I don’t agree that a woman’s occupation is completely irrelevant. For example, there was a time many years ago when I was between jobs. I remember how guys I spoke with at clubs/bars would ask what I did. When I told them I was between jobs, they would routinely ask me how I supported myself.

    Now I don’t know about most of the people posting here, but I just can’t imagine asking someone I just met how they support themselves, and within five minutes of the conversation no less. This happened to me several times. I never knew what to say because I didn’t think it was any of their business. But on the other hand, I didn’t want to be rude.

    Anyway, I asked a girl friend about it, who said she ran it by her male co workers. She called me the next to say that guys ask this of women they meet because they don’t want the woman to “mooch” off of them.

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  135. on June 7, 2009 at 6:38 pm easterkentucky

    The talk of woman lawyers has to remind one of the flick “I am Sam” –that’s Michelle Pfiefer as a ‘fast talkin four-named lawya” strong woman who had to have a RETARD teach her a lesson about family values, raising children and human decency. Yes, a retard.

    Despite that movie being mostly “We can do it!” feelgood PC drivel it was a good part criticism that stuck a jab at the selfish, status/career-climbing material gal character

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  136. on June 7, 2009 at 6:41 pm easterkentucky

    “People like me have husbands who fuck other women far more perfect than me!”

    “People like me have sons who hate them”

    ….yup.

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  137. on June 7, 2009 at 6:43 pm easterkentucky

    sorry bad link.

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  138. […] Ever notice how some women just *look* like bitches, before they’ve said one word? Is it her arrogant, smug mug? Her fuel-injected chin? Her severe hairstyle? Hmm, who does she remind me of… who could it be now? […]

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  139. […] bank manager”. Ha haa! This quote sums up the American woman well. American women are bank managers and pompous, phony laughers who take themselves too seriously because America has spoiled them. […]

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  140. length of this thread, all by itself, tells me what’s up.

    lawyer bitches can die lonely, for all i care.

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  141. it’s humorous b/c women are QUICK to judge a guy by his vocation or lack thereof.

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  142. “in terms of what gives a man a hard-on, a woman’s “class” or occupation has zero bearing.”

    -Our Master, roissy

    How true. But only for men who do not allow the icy winds of feminism penetrate the sacred connection of penis to brain. Also, there are rich people (usually the lackluster sons and daughters of men who got lucky, or committed a crime) who allow class consideration to block this sacred realm. So do Islamic extremists, as their religion fucks up their minds and influences the direct link.

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  143. DA:

    “You can be a pervert and collector of porn and still think that under-18 girls are off-limits to adult men.”

    I have been reading the blog for a few years, and David…
    You Sir, are quite the troll “writ large”… but I didn’t even believe that you were in fact a Hypocritical Reactionary.

    Gannon’s non US viewpoint is very different from your USA groupthink PC world view. And your very direct speech outs you for the psudo-feminist worshiper that you are.

    You say flattering things to women because you are emotional centric… and are in fact a sexless being. (which you have made much mileage with) But any actual claims of real respect for women or feminism are revealed as “the lies that they are”

    by your comment:

    You can be a pervert and collector of porn and still think that under-18 girls are off-limits to adult men.

    Yet most of all, your prejudice is laid bare. You are threatened by intergenerational love and relationships.
    In the exactly the same way as southern whites are re: Jungle Love.

    How dare a black man take a white woman!
    How dare a old man take a teenager!

    David, from my heart, I say to you

    FUCK OFF!

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  144. […] harassment claims, and divorce theft have had to be ruthlessly administered and enforced by the thugsof the rapidly metastasizing elite-created police state. Remove these security and resource […]

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  145. […] harassment claims, and divorce theft have had to be ruthlessly administered and enforced by the thugs of the rapidly metastasizing elite-created police state. Remove these security and resource […]

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  146. Goddamnit Roissy, you cockslap people in the face with the reality. Another great read.

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  147. When I was in law school it was interesting to see the following phenomenon: The first year it was about 1/3 feminine girls, 1/3 average girls, and 1/3 hard masculine girls. My school has a high drop-out rate so after the first year the feminine girls were gone. After the second year the normal girls were gone and in the third year the only girls left were the ones who had more facial hair than I.

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  148. Hi there.

    As a non-American, I am very interested in what’s being told here. I am worried that the American war of the sexes will be imported to my country. And I wouldn’t want that. Still, I am all for legal equality between the sexes.

    I totally agree with the author of this blog in these topics:
    1º. Men have a right to shared custody of their kids in case of divorce.
    2º. Men have a right to a immediate DNA test that checks out if the kid just born is his… and to immediately leave marriage and support of the child if the kid is not. And to sue for fraud and psychological damage. There’s no discussion there: the child isn’t yours, you have a right to flee and can sue for damages caused by fraud.
    3º. Men have a right not to be stripped off everything they own after a divorce (normally, it is done because the woman gets the kids, and then the house and child support goes for the kids. If the custody is shared, then both partners have to support themselves and the kids).

    But, due to all that:
    1º. Women still have to get careers and jobs. If the marriage goes on right (as it is my case), it’s a blessing to have two salaries. (My husband is far happier and more calm since I got a better job, because we have more to money to save, more for the little luxuries, and all that stuff). If the marriage can be broken and custody was shared, the woman needs a job.
    2º. Marriage rules have to be the same for everyone. If an alpha male cheats he may pass his wife AIDS or any other STD. Cheating is out of the question, unless it’s specified in the prenup contract. If a very rich guy marries and asks the woman beforehand to admit that he’s going to be unfaithfull, OK then. If you sign up for that, you have to put up with it. But as far as society’s concerned, if you swear to be faithful, you have to be faithful. If you can’t, either make the other partner sign up they’ll be OK with it, or just don’t get married. The second option would be best.

    As a last notion… Some women will never buy patriarchy again because it didn’t work for us. My grandmother never worked and it pained her to never have a penny of her own. So she sent my Mom to school. My father didn’t bring any money home, we lived off my Mom’s salary. She worked out of home to keep us and then at home cleaning and cooking, and if she needed help at home, she paid for it. My father would forget to pick up us from school. I understand your fury because laws are discriminating men, and that must be stopped. But if my Mom hadn’t had a job, I would have fucking starved. So the threat of “if you work men will find you less attractive” is nothing to me. Maybe love is a human need, but eating and having a roof over your head are more pressing ones.

    As to finish:
    1º. I want equal opportunities and equal rights. Equal, not more, never more. I understand equal opportunities doesn’t mean equal results. That is, I will understand if under equal opportunities, it happens that more women get to be nurses and teachers, and if more men get to be policemen or truckers. The only thing I want is the chance in case I’m good enough. To be honest with my teachers and coworkers, I’ve always gotten it.

    Sorry, I will never accept the housewife situation. Mind you, I am in charge of cooking at home (my husband does his chores too, cooking happens to be my part), and I wash and iron and that stuff. I just refuse to live without a career or a job. I like jobs that leave me free time, either for kids (when they come) or for my family life (even without kids, I don’t see the point in any of us working 12 hours a day). I don’t refuse to do that because of entitlement or feministic stuff (though I like my paycheck enough), but because the man at my home failed at providing for my family. My mother did it all. I am scared to think what would have been of us if she had been an uneducated housewife. If a woman doesn’t have a career or an education and her husband dies, what happens to her? More importantly, what about her children? Widows have always been poor because they lost all economic support.

    I am all for fighting for full employment so everyone can have a job. If a woman does not want a job and would rather be a housewife, I understand that. But I still think she should have some education and skills that would produce money. Because even with the greatest of husbands (my uncle, on the contrary, was a great man who provided for his family, and my aunt a great housewife who cooked better than many chefs and had an impressively clean home), disasters happen. And if I was a man and I got, say, cancer, it would totally piss me off to leave an uneducated housewife with no work experience in charge of three kids from 10 to 3. My husband certainly likes it better when I work. He can be more assertive in his job, because the threat “you will not be able to pay for your mortgage” is void when I work.

    I fact, he told me the case of another worker, married to a woman with a very stable job (not very paid, but a state job which is almost impossible to lose). Once the man was threatened by a disgusting boss with the typical “you must do what I say because otherwise I’ll fire you and you’ll lose your home”. The guy just answered “My wife earns it well”, and proceeded to punch the boss’ nose. After that, he resigned. Everyone in the store was quite relieved after that, because after losing two teeth, the threatening guy was far milder.

    You can believe it or not, but some guys like it when their wives bring money home.

    Things I don’t want to be imported from the USA:

    1º. Hatred between men and women.
    2º. “Sex in the City” and “Desperate wives” mentality. I don’t know how to describe it, but in the first series, the women seem shallow and superficial and very spending-prone. And in the second, except for the career woman, they were cheaters, or childlike and hysterical, or religious fanatics. Only the career woman and the non-married one were sort of acceptable. If those two series are remotely related to reality, I understand point 1.
    3º. Extreme wedding ring tradition. People die to get gold and gemstones from mines. The traditional wedding ring in my country is a plain gold band, and it’s only gold because it’s easier to clean. Our rings cost 90 euros when gold was cheap. Now they would cost about 300. Apparently, Americans spend thousands on the ring. And if it was only the ring…
    4º. The obsession with the wedding. As I have a career and a life, I have many days that will be the “the best of my life”. Apparently, American women need their weddings to be… something from another galaxy. There are bazillions of Hollywood movies about women who spend money that does not exist and organize the “perfect” wedding. I’ve had glorious days with my husband, but my wedding was OK. I would be atrociously unhappy if I had expected my wedding to be a perfect day. Plus, if I had all that money to spend on a goddamn day, I’d either pay the mortgage, start a bussiness, or go to a good international travel.

    One last thing about double standards:
    1º. Some guys can and want to be faithful. We are programmed to eat all that we want and sometimes we stop because we want to. I’m not saying these type of guy is the majority, but there are some who, sexed up at home, will even refuse advances by other women.
    2º. A woman can be promiscuous and respected. It’s not the number, but the selection. I’ve met women who were disregarded as sluts, and others who, with more experience, would be respected. Women are not expected to be virgins as much as they are expected to be selective with the men they get into their bed. If a man can respect the choices a woman made, he will respect her. That’s why interesting and attractive women who have had a few well-chosen partners will be maybe more respected and attractive (very good men want them), than others who have less partners, but who hooked with some of them during a drunken night).

    My… two million cents, anyway. I just hope it’s time to avoid all this stuff that’s happening in America to get to Europe.

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  149. on March 11, 2011 at 7:47 pm Laughing Shadow

    You are totally wrong on this, although I know why. I grew up in Kensington, Md, so basically a DC guy and most of my family are lawyers in DC. I’m a lawyer in Baltimore, and I decided to practice in Baltimore solely because the law in DC is uniquely annoying.

    This is so for a couple of reasons. First, the actual practice of law in DC is very govt.-centered at the large firms. You become an expert in FAA law or some such, and you can’t transfer that specialty anywhere else in the country. I became a litigator in Baltimore and can apply the exact same skills in any other town if I choose to move.

    Second, all social interactions in DC are different than a city like Baltimore. In DC, it’s always networking. You go to a happy our, and people talk about what they do, who they know, exchange cards… In B-More, it’s the Ravens. Women lawyers in Baltimore are largely nothing like the woman this post describes, and women lawyers in various other towns where I’ve had many cases – Frederick, Ocean City, Easton, etc are even more different.

    You’re describing DC here more than lawyers. Male DC lawyers have similar self-absorption.

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