Cousin Banging

Reader “Billy Ray Cyrus” emailed me:

I want to bang my cousin. Why? Same reason mounteneers [sic] want to climb Everest. Fortunately, she’s about my age (21) and on the loose side. Would I game her the same way as any other girl?

Godspeed,

Billy

I’ve never been sexually attracted to any of my female cousins, though a girl I am dating does kind of look like one of my cousins, which disturbs me greatly. And there was that one time I caught myself platonically admiring a cousin’s ample ta tas.

Fortunately for you, sir, banging a cousin means half your work is already done. Rapport has been built over many years, so you can dispense with that part of gaming her. What you need to do is similar to what a beta orbiter who’s been perpetually LJBF’ed by the pedestal of his dreams needs to do — namely, you’ve got to get your cousin to begin visualizing you as a monster cock penetrating her genetically related hole instead of as a relative to confide in nonsexually. For starters, I’d blow her off a few times, just to get her wondering if your mood about her is changing.

Then, when a month or two of noncommunication has passed, call her at midnight and invite her to stargaze on a Morgantown hilltop. When she’s there, tell her you’ve got a gym bag full of Ketel One airplane bottles to finish off. Once drinking, she’s going to talk about the usual shit; you’ll want to be on guard for any asexual movement in the conversation, and cut it off before the moment is destroyed. Continually hint at sexual themes, but frame it so that you are discussing sexy topics brought up by third parties, or having to do with you and “some girl I like”. Watch her eyes; if she looks away from you to the side a lot, she’s uncomfortable with the direction of the conversation. If her eyes glow with the fires of a thousand burning loins, that’s your cue to brush your hands lightly across her various erogenous zones. Let a finger linger just above her thong line.

Your game should be strictly A2-A3 and S1-S3 (see: Mystery Method). You can skip A1 (she’s already attracted to you on a subconscious primal level, thanks to the genes you share), and C1-C3 (you already know her values and she knows yours). In A2, you’ll want to amp the cocky&funny and the push-pull.  After you touch a sensitive part of her body, push her away and make some distance between yourselves on the damp grass. Then scoot back over to her. Do this over and over, until her emotions are an out of control roller coaster plummeting up and down the lubechute of her quivering vagina.

In A3, you’ll want to heavily qualify her. She needs to earn your consanguinous seed. Examples of good qualifying lines to use on a cousin include:

“What’s the craziest thing you’ve ever done?”
“Have you ever broken a taboo and been glad you did?”
“What’s your dirtiest, most secret fantasy you would never tell anyone except someone you really trusted?”
“The fact that we know each other means nothing to me. What else do you have?”
“Prove to me you’re not like all those boring girls I know.”

In general, you want to favor making statements with women instead of asking questions. But since she is your cousin who knows you well and not some random chick you just met who crashed the family greased pig chase, you can ask lots of qualifying questions without DLVing yourself.

Good luck!

******

Reader Mark emailed:

Help.

How does a guy shake a girl who is using one word game, but still replying in like 2 seconds.  I’m spacing my texts appropriately.

Damn, I feel your confusion. A woman’s best game tactic is stealing a page from the men’s playbook. They re-flip the script. Usually, when a girl is dropping one word game on a man it means she is either not very interested and just using the tepid banter for quick n’ dirty validation, or she’s interested but only knows how to game back. Girls who vigorously game men are often sluts who have been burned (sometimes literally in the nether region by assorted virii) by alphas in their pasts. Do you really want to cavort with such cheap strumpets? Of course you do.

Recall Poon Commandment V:

V. Adhere to the golden ratio

Give your woman 2/3 of everything she gives you. For every three calls or texts, give her two back. Three declarations of love earn two in return. Three gifts; two nights out. Give her two displays of affection and stop until she has answered with three more. When she speaks, you reply with fewer words. When she emotes, you emote less. The idea behind the golden ratio is twofold — it establishes your greater value by making her chase you, and it demonstrates that you have the self-restraint to avoid getting swept up in her personal dramas. Refraining from reciprocating everything she does for you in equal measure instills in her the proper attitude of belief in your higher status. In her deepest loins it is what she truly wants.

This means that for every one word text she sends you, you return one half of a text. So, for example, if she sends you this text:

“Yeah!”

you reply:

“?”

Other examples:

HER: “Okay!”
YOU: “Coo”

HER: “Nice”
YOU: “Meh”

HER: “:)”
YOU: “:”

HER: “Cya!”
YOU: “*” (This is the international text symbol for anal sex.)

If you’re unsure how to reply, your best bet is radio silence. Let her one word text dangle in the electric ether, like a has-been attention whore forever in search of a “YEAH BABY!” from a drunk frat boy. A lot of girls will game you with tactics such as the one word text for the sole purpose of eliciting a cunthungry reaction from you. It’s what I call “beta bait”. You chomp down, and you’ve revealed your beta bona fides. You should get into the habit of punishing girls who run one word game on you by running one stroke sex on them.





Comments


  1. And there was that one time I caught myself platonically admiring a cousin’s ample ta tas.

    Ta tas clothed or exposed?

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  2. YOU: “*” (This is the international text symbol for anal sex.)

    My diminished productivity by hanging out around here way too much is justified by comments such as the above.

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  3. Charles Darwin married his cousin.

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  4. If you fuck a relative you deserve to be put down. Don’t you know anything about biology? The world doesn’t need more retards and mutants.

    If you had game you wouldn’t need to game your cousin you sick fuck. The fact that you want to and will do makes you beta in this modern world filled with sluts and virgins. The only acceptable reason would be to gain material possessions or political power. Too bad inter family stuff ended a long time ago meaning you’re just a sick fuck. Do everyone a favor and have your cousin bite your nuts off.

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  5. I had an experience with an alpha male who texted me all the time. It tought me that men who text all the time instead of talking to you either (1) have girlfriends and thus can’t speak on the phone freely, (2) don’t really like you all that much, or (3) are narcissistic and lack the communication skills to game you via a phone conversation or face-to-face contact. Sometimes the guy has all three issues.

    I’ve found that the best thing to do is the exact opposite of what Roissy says a woman should do: run that same texting game back on them. Men who aren’t truly interested in getting to know you quickly tire of the game and they won’t bother to call.

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  6. sex with cousins ? pretty hot in theory ..though all my cousins are children lol

    i enjoy using your game on guys .. it really works actually

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  7. one more thing .. im really curious if this guy (billy) grew up with his cousin .. or is she someone you’d hardly see?

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  8. nadia

    i enjoy using your game on guys .. it really works actually

    read your blog
    it ain’t game that’s
    umm doing all that work

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  9. lubechute

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  10. on November 12, 2009 at 12:01 pm Billy Ray Cyrus

    nadia: she lives across the country, so I only see her like once a year.

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  11. Damn, that’s hot. To think about. Don’t know if I could do it. You really can’t make the argument that there’s anything wrong about fucking your cousin. If you both want it and you use a condom.

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  12. invite her to stargaze on a Morgantown hilltop. When she’s there, tell her you’ve got a gym bag full of Ketel One airplane bottles

    This is important: most girls can hear the frequency of rattling bottles, but inbreeding produces what’s commonly known as the ‘Appalachian Ear’ defect for higher frequencies.

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  13. wordfusions work well when she tries to subvert your word minimalism… fucking bitches

    just dont rely on them; use sparingly, only when it counts (once every dozen texts or so) otherwise it’ll seemreally fuckingweird

    ‘inabit’, ‘undermyskin’, ‘inorout’… some examples i’ve thrown into texts

    and lets not forget (de roissy): ‘nowthatssomebadassracismrightthere’

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  14. The descent continues.

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  15. Roissy–

    YOU: “*” (This is the international text symbol for anal sex.)

    Priceless. (Perhaps it will be now.)

    I chose to view your guidance to your first emailer as how to game LJBF girls you’ve long known, rather than cousins. Now when the Catholic church got all upset about third cousins, that was just political / social engineering.

    You’ve never done converting a LJBF relationship into a sexual one in detail before I don’t think. Actually this is more like a situation where there were specific impediments to having a relationship with a girl previously, but now they’re lifted, or you’ve just stopped caring, rather than that the guy has tried to get her to like him romantically previously but had gotten “just friends” return signals instead. Those are hard to convert. Prior impediments, not so much. E.g. previously you or she or both were in committed relationships, or she worked directly for you, etc., but anyway, you’d grown comfortable with each other in friends mode.

    Actually I think guys are better off keeping a bit of sexual tension going, but strictly limited, with “friends because impediments” girls who are hot. Teasing her some. Then back to friends or colleagues business. Hey, keeps life a bit juicier in any event.

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  16. Billy Ray Cyrus

    nadia: she lives across the country, so I only see her like once a year.

    Next time the carnival comes to the holler, blow out any LMR and go for the SNL. SP her with your trucker hat collection.

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  17. I just banged my little 21 year old cousin about 6 months ago. Even though she’s a close cousin (her father is my mom’s brother), that was only like the second time in my life that I’d seen her. I had just broken up with my GF the day she got into town and she lives in Ibiza, so needless to say, she’s a little on the freaky side…

    I felt like crap and guilty as hell up until the moment we started banging, and the real guilt didn’t set in until about a week later, but by that time it was just an afterthought.

    After that happened, one night during a drunken stupor I confessed to a friend of mine what I’d done and he admitted he’s done the same with one of his cousins… Same situation: close cousin, little face-to-face time… It’s common in Nicaragua cuz of the whole civil war in the 80’s… Everyone was separated throughtout the world.

    I don’t admit cousin banging, I don’t recommend it, but I don’t consider it as taboo as I once thought it was… The key is not having too much contact with that cousin over long periods of time…

    Oh, and don’t even get me started on 2nd or 3rd degree cousins…

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  18. This is totally unrelated, but it turns out that now you can be a professional beta.

    I have a really hot 2nd cousin. It’s distracting.

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  19. Everyone was separated throughtout the world.

    I met many of my younger cousins for the first time in my late 20s. Must never speak of the unconsummated mutual … unbridled enthusiasm.

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  20. i’d just offer up that billy should be careful. the man inordinately gets the brunt of the blame is something like this is found out by other family members.

    if you *must*, game her with trepidation. let her make all of the big moves.

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  21. HER: “:)”
    YOU: “:”

    Had to post, b/c that made me laugh out loud.

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  22. Email #1 is hilarious. Sadly, no hot cousins for me.

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  23. Thirty-one states outlaw marriage between first cousins — making this country the most hostile to such marriages despite the fact that they are lawful in many countries. Most of these laws date back to legislation after the Civil War. In Forbidden Relatives: The American Myth of Cousin Marriage, Kansas State University anthropologist Martin Ottenheimer argues that the bans were the result of now-discredited 19th century research on birth defects among children born to first cousins.

    However, according to the National Society of Genetic Counselors, birth defects are only 2 to 3 percent more common in children born to first cousins than among the general population. That would not be enough to justify the ban — particularly given first cousins beyond the child bearing age.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/cousinmarriage/

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  24. lol @ “coo”.
    really?

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  25. on November 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Alright, please tell me this one is a joke. Thanks, you have embarrassed White People everywhere with this particular gem of a post.

    Can you say “Bible-Belt-livin, Gun-Totin, Cousin-Fucking, straight-up White Trash” anyone?

    And you guys wonder why White Women are turning to ANYONE other than White Men. This is why.

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  26. @chuck,

    I’d say even if she pulls the would be cousin fucker into bed, once the family finds out (and they probably will), he’ll get all the blame and be treated like a child molester and clutch their children and give him the evil eye whenever he’s around. The up side is no one is liable to ask him for free baby sitting.

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  27. “and clutch ”

    read “and they’ll clutch”

    While here, I heartily approve of Roissy’s new advice nice: “So, you’ve decided to fuck your cousin!”

    Maybe this can be worked into the People of Wal-Mart?

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  28. on November 12, 2009 at 2:26 pm Wendy Schwartz

    mikeraw
    I just banged my little 21 year old cousin about 6 months ago. Even though she’s a close cousin (her father is my mom’s brother), that was only like the second time in my life that I’d seen her. I had just broken up with my GF the day she got into town and she lives in Ibiza, so needless to say, she’s a little on the freaky side…

    *vomits violently over and over*

    I sincerely hope that you are using an anonymous ip address and are hiding your identity when you type this comment, sir. And you happily admit that she’s a “close cousin”????

    *vomits violently again*

    Dude, you guys really WILL stick your penis into anything, won’t you? (And I’ll be he’s a White Guy, too)

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  29. Wendy Schwartz:

    umm, do you realize that him fucking her implies that she fucked him as well? it takes two to tango? two hands clapping and all that shit?

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  30. on November 12, 2009 at 2:31 pm Wendy Schwartz

    I had an experience with an alpha male who texted me all the time. It tought me that men who text all the time instead of talking to you either (1) have girlfriends and thus can’t speak on the phone freely, (2) don’t really like you all that much, or (3) are narcissistic and lack the communication skills to game you via a phone conversation or face-to-face contact. Sometimes the guy has all three issues.

    I completely disagree with this for two reasons:

    1. I hate the phone and refuse to talk on it/answer calls/return calls regardless of who it is because I tell them “that’s what I have unlimited texting for”

    2. A guy who calls me to “chat” is (in my mind) a pussy-bitch that’s going to also start sharing his feelings with me and wanting to cuddle 6 weeks down the road. Men do NOT “chat” on the phone….if they DO they’re either gay or a pussy.

    So if this is what you’re going by to get a “good man” you’re going to get a gay man posing as straight, and ugly fat guy, or a poor desperate emotional trainwreck that wants to see you everyday, calls you, and wants to have “meaningful conversations” (translation: more pussy-bitch whining)

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  31. on November 12, 2009 at 2:35 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Chuck,

    Well I assure you, that if she logs in, posts a comment, and proudly discusses this particular sexual adventure I’d openly mock and shame her as well.

    Chances are that if she’s a “freaky foreigner” (from Ibiza, was it?) means she’s probably a prostitute and has been one since age 5.

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  32. Wendy Schwartz

    *vomits violently over and over*

    vomitola, vomitae, vomitus

    *vomits violently again*

    all your proclivity for regurgitation designates you as the perfect candidate-ette to administer my

    Standard Weekend Blumpkin

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  33. sorry folks, but incest creeps me out. also lol @ “Morgantown hilltop”…

    on the other letter, i think you overlooked a key fact – that she texts back “within 2 seconds”, even if she’s using one-word replies. This suggests the opposite of alpha aloofness. the short replies may be that she’s not articulate, doesn’t like (or is not good at) long texts, or something like that. texting isn’t a natural form of communication for a lot of people. all this is to say that it didn’t seem at all to me from the letter like she was “flipping the script” and using alpha techniques to generate attraction.

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  34. on November 12, 2009 at 3:01 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Nathan, darling being a “single mother” wasn’t an accident nor do I find it embarrassing. As for stripping….yup I was “embarrassed” all the way to the bank, lol.

    What’s embarrassing is seeing women who get married and live off of their husbands and don’t have their own careers/house/money/friends.

    If women would eradicate marriage and ONLY get artificial insemination (when we decide we want babies, instead of sex…) there would be nothing left for men to offer because as of right now an actual human penis is the only thing men still give us that we don’t acquire ourselves.

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  35. on November 12, 2009 at 3:04 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Firepower–

    all your proclivity for regurgitation designates you as the perfect candidate-ette to administer my

    Standard Weekend Blumpkin

    Ohhhhh Firepower, just because I’m German doesn’t mean I’m into that shit.

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  36. nadia–

    one more thing .. im really curious if this guy (billy) grew up with his cousin .. or is she someone you’d hardly see?

    You’re right. There’s research that shows that close childhood association is how the instinctual (as opposed to social rules based) non interest in anything sexual develops.

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  37. on November 12, 2009 at 3:06 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Cousing marriage is not that unsual through human history. Western cilivilzation started imposing limits on it only fairly recently.

    That is REALLY far-reaching because most of the cousin-fucking is due to Royalty having an entire Estate, Fortune, and Throne at stake in HAVING to fuck a relative.

    Otherwise it’s something 3rd World people and people with….errrrrr….mental problems do.

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  38. Wendy Schwartz

    Firepower–

    all your proclivity for regurgitation designates you as the perfect candidate-ette to administer my

    Standard Weekend Blumpkin

    Ohhhhh Firepower, just because I’m German doesn’t mean I’m into that shit.

    well,being German
    means your into just enuff of it
    to keep me interested

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  39. I’ve been trying to do a better job of qualifying chicks lately. One thing that seems to come up quite often: she answers my question and then, What about you??

    What are the options here? 1) give an honest response, 2) deflect/change the subject. Anything else? Obviously it’s situation dependent, but do you have any guidelines as to how often you should be doing one or the other?

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  40. Wendy Schwartz: the mother of a son who believes “men would have nothing left to offer” if “women would eradicate marriage”. My condolences to her son. Anybody want to set odds on how many years of therapy he will need with his Mom’s attitude about his worth as a man?

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  41. on November 12, 2009 at 2:23 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Roissy encouraging incest? Well, I’ve been sufficiently disturbed for the day. Now excuse me while I retch into this paper bag.

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  42. i don’t see where roissy is encouraging incest. rather, he’s giving advice to someone who asked for it.

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  43. Wendy Schwartz, you have changed not at all in your absence. Your comments are so wilfully obtuse as to defy belief. Although it’s now clearly your intent to needle people on this site as a hostile troll.

    Do you work at Dunder Mifflin? I see you as a cross between Angela (the evil blonde) and the slutty redhead, whose name I forget.

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  44. Also, tell me if I’m wrong here.

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  45. One problem with anonymous sperm/egg donation is that the half (or complete) siblings might someday meet and feel this strangely “special bond” right from the start. Since it is proximitry in childhood rather than genetic closeness per se that drives the yuck factor – and our two lovers meet as strangers, – well, what often happens next is better left unsaid.
    It has happened over & over.

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  46. Cousing marriage is not that unsual through human history. Western cilivilzation started imposing limits on it only fairly recently. In other parts of the world cousin marriage is still fairly common. I think it’s in Iraq that majority (60% or so) of the population is either married to their first or second cousins. Steve Sailer had some good articles on this stuff.

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  47. hey roissy in what phase should I use your, “Love Test: A Routine ?”

    In C1 or C2 ?

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  48. Lol. The ex-stripper, single mother with a bastard child is talking about class. Cute.

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  49. LR, i’m looking for a good time. that number you scrawled on the allentown bus depot toilet wall still in service? we can drop the kid off at scores like we did last time. the dancers thought he was so cute!

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  50. there would be nothing left for men to offer because as of right

    You still need men to not enslave you and kill your children, and to protect you from other men who would do that.

    Now, if all men were to disappear except for a few well-secured sperm-donors… y’all would be so faaaaaaat and bored, and you’d cat-meow each other to death.

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  51. You’re right ladette rain. If only we could replace all the healthy, traditional family units with washed up hookers raising bastard children. That would be awesome.

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  52. on November 12, 2009 at 3:13 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Chuck:

    i don’t see where roissy is encouraging incest. rather, he’s giving advice to someone who asked for it.

    That’s encouragement, if a passive form of it.

    Roissy can do what he likes, but the thought of blood relatives fucking disgusts me. I’m funny like that.

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  53. on November 12, 2009 at 3:14 pm Michael wears a hat

    For the panickers on here, cousin mating is only negligibly more likely to result in freak babies than unrelated sex. The real risk is in brother-sister sex.

    The modern stigma against cousin fucking has more to do with enhancing social relations between different groups through out-group marriage.

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  54. well that didnt take long

    F5 F5 F5 F5 F5

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  55. I’m putting my money on teen suicide.

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  56. Who let this supercunt Lady Yellow Raine back out of the kitchen? Permaban…

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  57. When I was like ten I watched an episode of Night Court where Dan Fielding (one of the greatest characters in TV history) meets a long-lost sister who turns out to be a sexy little nympho, and they spend most of the episode flirting and planning to fuck. I might have felt differently if I’d had a sister, but I thought the whole situation was incredibly hot. I could see that happening with a cousin, although I’ve never felt that urge.

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  58. I might have felt differently if I’d had a sister

    Having had three sisters (all good looking) over whom my friends in high school and beyond had lost their idiot heads at different times, I can attest that there is NOTHING as sexless, yucky, and erotically inert than a sibling.

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  59. Two 21 years olds fucking have a minimal chance of birth defects, cousin or not. It’s far more natural and less gross than 40 year old cougars who have much higher chances of birth defects.

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  60. i have not one but three super-hot cousins (one’s a model). but, hey, never done anything. where i am from you get shot only for thinking about it.

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  61. I just barfed! This post is so disturbing and gross! I don’t care if she is your step sister or a distance cousin, fucking a family member is nasty. You guys need to raise your standards, because sleeping with a cousin or even admiring her breasts is something only desperate men would do! Ugh!

    If my cousin looked at my ass I would punch him in the face!

    What’s next…’How to game your sister?’

    So nasty!

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  62. http://mondediplo.com/1998/10/10bourdieu

    “Male domination is so rooted in our collective unconscious that we no longer even see it. It is so in tune with our expectations that it becomes hard to challenge it. Now, more than ever, it is crucial that we work to dissolve the apparently obvious and explore the symbolic structures of the androcentric unconscious that still exists in men and women alike. What are the mechanisms and institutions which make possible the continued reproduction of this age-old domination by men? And is it possible to neutralise them in order to liberate the forces for change which they are instrumental in blocking?”

    you know what is the best about those french philosophers ??

    they are the only ones who can say those things, believe in those things, and still bang uber-hot undergrads

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  63. As a side note, we’re all a product of long term cousin banging. The idea of never getting involved with a relative only holds when travel is easy for your class. Most people in most places in time have been severely restricted in travel, so we’re all pretty much inbred.

    That, and I think the hypothesis is that all humans emerged from Africa from a group of 40 or so total man-apes. So we’re all cousins, really.

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  64. me me me —

    Have you no appreciation for the literary masterpiece (and cinematic gem) The Blue Lagoon?

    Also, step sisters aren’t blood relatives. Fair game, and happens quite a lot.

    A violent reaction from a girl for looking at her ass is a good kino sign that she wants to fuck. You’ve got some freaky Freudian shit goin’ on, girl!

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  65. Wendy Schwartz reappeared and suddenly the signal-to-noise ratio went down … Who would have guessed. Please ban. Not only does she troll-spam but she also uses up ressources from other commenters engaging with her endless blabbering.

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  66. WHITE TRASH. In-bred trash. Probably votes republican.

    Enuff said.

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  67. I think you guys are missing the point on the incest. There’s not that much risk of birth defects. On the other hand, there’s a huge risk of sheer awkwardness as you encounter each other at weddings, funerals, reunions and Thanksgivings.

    Don’t shit where you eat. Seriously.

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  68. LOL @ that the people who take everything Roissy writes so seriously, from both ends of the spectrum.

    HER: “:)”
    YOU: “:”

    That killed me.

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  69. “WHITE TRASH. In-bred trash. Probably votes republican.

    Enuff said.”

    —lol. Actually, the blakc base of the democratic party is much more inbred than any other group on the planet.

    And considering how left wingers will only mate with left wingers…and the vast amount of dykes and fags on the left….well, let’s just say left wing thinking is far more prone to inbreeding right now.

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  70. Patrick

    I know step sisters aren’t blood relatives! Have standards, please!!!

    If my cousin even winked at me I’d punch him in the face.

    So damn nasty!

    billy: hey mom, i just had sex with your brother’s daughter.

    mom: oh billy, i’m so proud of you. the world needs more men like you in this world, you know, because it’s already in such good condition!

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  71. Incest is ‘sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry’. So, depends on the laws where you are. Basically unless they are your parent, sibling, blood aunt or uncle – it’s not a given.

    I don’t get the visceral reaction people here of all places are having to first-cousin sex, much less other degrees. It was so normal in America a century or less ago for first cousins to marry and have children. I’m sure most of us have a first-cousin set of great-grandparents not too far back.

    The idea doesn’t skeeve me hardly at all, although I have never be attracted to my only male first cousin. Really, we are all extraordinarily inbred anyway. Most white people are hardly any more distinct from me than my relatives.

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  72. on November 12, 2009 at 4:53 pm Cannon's Canon

    there are SO many links to post! here is one:

    http://neoreviews.aappublications.org/cgi/content/extract/9/2/e59

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  73. Anonymous / me me me — / Biting Beaver

    I imagine you formulate a lot of your complaints to men with “you make me so angry/upset/sad/feel like a whore”

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  74. And let’s not forget the hidden reasons: given that DNA testing is only a generation old and not required, its possible your cousin is only your half-cousin—thus making “inbreeding” an amorphous term.

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  75. George, at dinner with his cousin: “Some more merlot?”
    Rhisa: “Yeah, thanks.”
    George: “Sure. You know, Rhisa. I’ve always found you… very attractive.”
    Rhisa: “What?”
    George: “I know it may sound shocking. But, I just can’t stop myself from…wanting you.”
    Rhisa: “You want to borrow money, right?”
    George: “No, no. I-I just want us to be… together.”
    Rhisa: “All right.”
    George: “All right?”
    Rhisa: “Let’s go for it.”
    George: “Well… we could dance around it a little first.”
    Rhisa, playing “footsie”: “Nah. Let’s be bad, George. Let’s be really…bad.”
    George: “Whoa! Whoa! Geez!”

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  76. Guys – looking for help on getting to next steps with a 9+. This one is difficult – any suggestions on how to proceed?

    I will try to be brief. Apologies for the long post.

    Background:

    3 months ago met an asian girl online. She initiated. 29. Attractive. Good email banter but couldn’t nail down a meet day. (Normally I am a “3rd email, let’s meet” guy to great effect.) Contact faded for 2 weeks but I resurrected with my patented “did we break up already? 😉 let’s grab that drink” email.

    Met up for drinks in the Village; this (unfortunately) turns out to be her hood.

    Turns out she is smoking hot (a real 9+), is off the boat from Taipei, just finished B school (why she was busy), very smart, sharp on the financial markets, seems like she comes from money, her English is ok – not great, she’s looking for a job (and a greencard).

    Key thing – she has a keen awareness that what she has, men want. (“Hand” in Seinfeld lingo.) As some of you have likely experienced, very smart and very attractive gives her an attitude of calm, judgmental, predatory aloofness. Yet she is also very cool and funny.

    Knowing some game fundamentals, I passed initial sh!t tests … mild kino, push-pull, small negs, some qualifying. Night going well…

    Until she dropped the MOAST (mother of all sh!t tests) on me: ‘I should have told you sooner, but I have a boyfriend that I just got back together with…took care of me when I was in a car accident a month ago…but I am still looking to make more friends in New York… etc.’

    Yes. Yes. I should have been expecting it.

    Anyway, my answer wasn’t textbook. I said something like, “You should have. I have plenty of friends already…” although somewhat terse, after a minute I recovered composure.

    Nonetheless, epic fail. The rest of the night was fine but flat. She had Hand and knew it. I ended the date.

    Anyway, there was some light text banter in the following days… but frankly I dropped her as I had other irons in the fire.

    So… ou6 weeks later she texts me late night about what I am doing on Halloween. Here is some of it. My commentary is in [brackets].

    I respond the next day with “Sry. Who is this?” [I knew it was her] She responds immediately.
    Me (Hour later): Hey. Gd to hear frm u. Hmm, not sure. u?
    Her: Not sure either. My street will be very noisy…I hate that.
    Me (40 min ltr): and poor girl needs her beauty sleep…
    Her: Ya. I am too old to stay out for yelling all night. like smart you 😉
    Me: hmm, as they get older some women do need more sleep 😉
    Her: and old men need the bathroom. [checkmate. damn!]
    Me (1 hr later): haha! No denying that! [end]

    We exchanged a few texts on the 31st and the 1st. I let her respond last.

    5 days later I send her this:

    Me: when ru buying me that round of beers u said u owed me?!
    Her: I cant remember I owe u beers..u know I am poor, not rich like you
    Me (30 min): Oh? Just cuz ur poor doesnt mean u shud hv a bad memory.
    Her (hour later):ok. if I got job, I will buy you one glass
    Me (hour later): ahhh. Another reason for u NOT to find a job;) [end]

    4 days later (this is Tuesday past) she txts:
    Her (9pm): I am near ur neighborhood. Want to have a cup of tea? [I am out with frds from work and have a 6ft tall 26 y/o joining me later.]
    Her (10pm): don’t panic. Just finished (financial lecture) but was near u n thought nice to have cup of tea I owed u. Now am home. So… hv a good night 🙂
    Me (11pm): Hey. Sry I missed u. next time invite me to the lecture. [end]

    So last night (Wednesday) I am out on a date (coincidentally with a cute asian girl) in the Village near this girl’s apartment. Walking down the street, I see her on the phone in a doorway, but don’t realize it’s her until I am past. We do make 3 long seconds of eye contact.

    (Let me tell you all. Manhattan is a damn small city of 2 million people.)

    Her (1.5 hrs later): Ha. Just saw u w a gal on my street. who said he is so proud of his hood but always date in my hood? Just admit u envy me;)
    Me (30 min): I knew that was you! Lol! Hmm u look different when ur not all dressed up.
    Her: I didn’t dress up when I met u. that’s my usually wear. Today I went to an interview with a suit. My B school classmate said its sexy.. haha
    Me (3pm today): lol! Good to kno u werent trying to dress to impress when u met me. Maybe nxt time u shud wear ur business suit? [end. nothing back yet.]

    From her perspective I have potential: I am older, tall, attractive, well-educated, smart, street job. Although not Beta, I am and have always been a nice guy.

    From my perspective, this girl may require a degree of game that I frankly can not maintain for an extended period of time… but no reason not to try.

    Let me say at this point, I get game but am not – nor do I have the constitution to be – a serious player. I lean more Dave from Hawaii than Mystery or even Roissy. I employ some fundamentals of game to enhance my relationships. And, finally, at my age (40ish) I am looking for a LTR more than a quick fling.

    Next steps? Comments & suggestions appreciated.

    B.

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  77. Excuse my ignorace but….

    …What is one stroke sex???????

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  78. on November 12, 2009 at 5:24 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””PA
    Everyone was separated throughtout the world.

    I met many of my younger cousins for the first time in my late 20s. Must never speak of the unconsummated mutual … unbridled enthusiasm.”””””’

    Cousins should remain seperated if the female is hot and not seen in many years. Especially if sleep overs are allowed.

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  79. on November 12, 2009 at 5:26 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””However, according to the National Society of Genetic Counselors, birth defects are only 2 to 3 percent more common in children born to first cousins than among the general population. That would not be enough to justify the ban — particularly given first cousins beyond the child bearing age.

    http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/cousinmarriage/
    ””””””

    Probably because they make the best wives. We were perfect for each other.

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  80. on November 12, 2009 at 5:36 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””’You guys need to raise your standards”””””’

    I think guys mostly be talking about when they were younger and before full brainwashing had set in and there really was only one brain.

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  81. A large percentage of the world typically marries cousins, as a regular cultural feature.

    It is not an instant jump to genetic deficiency – it is not worse in humans than in any livestock breeding program (all good livestock breding involves a heavy amount of close inbreeding, with a small amount of outside genetic material).

    The aversion to cousins getting together is purely Western cultural conditioning.

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  82. @BinNYC – First, well done, for the most part. Unless you get a clear signal that either the boyfriend is out of the picture, or the relationship is on the rocks and she’s ripe for swooping, i’d keep things just where they are. first, it’s bad karma to steal someone’s girl, no matter what the hallelujah chorus on this board says, imho; and second, well-bred asian girls, from the old country no less, tend to be less slutty and less prone to cheat, as far as I know. otoh, if she “got back together” with him there were issues that caused a breakup. so worth keeping aware of where that goes.

    meet her for a drink occasionally, get to know her and her life, keep the talk sexual and funny, and see if that gradually builds attraction and comfort. it should. i wouldn’t force it, though, given her situation. the danger is LJBF and your attention only stroking her vanity. so if you feel that’s where things lead, then you can always walk. otoh, you won’t know what she really wants or feels about the BF unless you get to know her and build that comfort.

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  83. OK, so the cousin banging subject has been broached…

    how does everyone feel about Aunt banging? (just being related by marriage) does this get condemned parallel to milf-hunting?

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  84. I met a girl who’s first threesome she has was with her mom after her dad died. She was so fucked up, but one of the hottest threesome’s I’ve ever had. I love girls that are all fucked up….you can do anything to them in the bedroom…

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  85. FTR

    I’m with maurice.

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  86. on November 12, 2009 at 5:51 pm gunslingergregi

    Tyler that is pretty much every girl.

    You just have to get them to internalize that their body is no longer theirs but yours. I think the key to that opening of the door to anything.

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  87. binnyc:
    Until she dropped the MOAST (mother of all sh!t tests) on me: ‘I should have told you sooner, but I have a boyfriend that I just got back together with…took care of me when I was in a car accident a month ago…but I am still looking to make more friends in New York… etc.’

    Yes. Yes. I should have been expecting it.

    Anyway, my answer wasn’t textbook. I said something like, “You should have. I have plenty of friends already…” although somewhat terse, after a minute I recovered composure.

    Nonetheless, epic fail. The rest of the night was fine but flat. She had Hand and knew it. I ended the date.

    yeah, you reacted, instead of reframed. although that was truly a cunty move of hers, it’s to be expected from a hot chick. remember: everything she does is cute! so a better reply would have been: “glad to see he approved of our date”.

    Me: hmm, as they get older some women do need more sleep
    Her: and old men need the bathroom. [checkmate. damn!]
    Me (1 hr later): haha! No denying that! [end]

    drop the smiley. and your answer was serviceable, but it could have been better. “how would you know?” or: “for fucking? yep, can’t deny.”

    Her (hour later):ok. if I got job, I will buy you one glass
    Me (hour later): ahhh. Another reason for u NOT to find a job;)

    too much banter. has she earned your witty banter yet? no. and dispense with the smilies.

    Me (30 min): I knew that was you! Lol! Hmm u look different when ur not all dressed up.

    nice neg.

    Her: I didn’t dress up when I met u. that’s my usually wear. Today I went to an interview with a suit. My B school classmate said its sexy.. haha

    what a defensive, status whoring cunt. are all asian chicks like this?

    Me (3pm today): lol! Good to kno u werent trying to dress to impress when u met me. Maybe nxt time u shud wear ur business suit? [end. nothing back yet.]

    she didn’t merit a laborious text reply from you. her tone was bitchy. i would’ve wrote: “your classmate is easy to impress” and left it at that.

    look man, there’s too much texting going on here when there should be fucking at this point. eventually ya gotta pull the trigger or cut her loose. that means instead of calculatingly waiting one hour to reply to every single one of her texts, don’t reply for a week, and when you do make it about a topic you’d rather talk about, like meeting up at your place before heading out to a local club to dance.

    And, finally, at my age (40ish) I am looking for a LTR more than a quick fling.

    irrelevant. you game LTR material exactly how you game flings. the gina tingle can’t tell the difference.
    anyhow, this chick hasn’t earned LTR potential designation yet. why do you give it to her? it’s messing with your inner game.

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  88. The aversion to cousins getting together is purely Western cultural conditioning.

    and for good reason. i mean, have you seen the middle east lately?

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  89. Thanks for the color, Maurice. Sorry I missed you when you were in NYC.

    I’ll be the first to admit my game isn’t tight. Honestly posting what happened did cause me to wince.

    (A good guide to text game, perhaps? If you wouldn’t copy-n-paste it into the comments on RoissyinDC, don’t hit send.)

    Agreed, getting out for a drink is key next step.

    My operating assumption is the boyfriend is over/on rocks until proven otherwise.

    I admit she could be looking for friends as this is the sort of girl who men love and women hate. So, I can see her M.O. is to have a slew of LJBFs on hand…

    B.

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  90. roissy, as far as mothers of all shit tests go, how do you handle this one (minus most of the backstory)?

    “Did you just ask me out so you could fuck me?”

    This was awhile ago, needless to say I didn’t pass. Curious though on your take/.

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  91. more background, second time hanging out with the girl, we had a real good first time, solo. This second time she met up with me and 2 of my friends, but they were not around when this convo went down.

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  92. roissy, as far as mothers of all shit tests go, how do you handle this one (minus most of the backstory)?

    “Did you just ask me out so you could fuck me?”

    “yes.”

    a glib question deserves a glib answer.

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  93. Sex, breeding, and/or marriage between cousins is not incest; incest involves sex, breeding, and marriage between very close relatives of the immediate family, i.e. brother/sister, father/daughter, son/mother, etc and also uncle/niece plus aunt/nephew who are blood-related (not in-laws).

    As others have noted here, cousins of varying degrees of relatedness have been breeding with each other since the dawn of humankind because our geographical mobility was very limited — all modern humans are the result of breeding between first cousins, second cousins, third cousins, etc. Breeding between cousins has a major benefit of increased fertility because their egg and sperm are much more genetically ‘compatible.’

    In the Arab world, it is common and even expected that people will marry and breed with their cousin, often the first cousin — this is how they build and maintain close extended family alliances.

    Genetic problems only occur amongst cousin breeding if the gene pool of the group is very small and bottlenecked to begin with; amongst Ashkenazi Jews this is a problem, since their gene pool was originally small and marriage/breeding between first cousins has been common amongst them for a long time. The Ashkenazim even have a eugenic testing service to test for too close relatedness which increases the risk of genetic defects; see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dor_Yeshorim — also, because the Ashkenazim are/were a small group which intermarried with each other via first cousin breeding for a long time, they now have a large number of genetic disorders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi#Specific_diseases_and_disorders — Einstein is an example of a Jew who married his cousin for his second marriage (she was actually his first cousin maternally and his second cousin paternally, though they never had kids). Ashkenazi inbreeding has unfortunately lead to their tendency to be physically ugly while at the same time concentrating genes related to high intelligence.

    However, genetic defects due to inbreeding is generally not a problem for most other ethnic/racial groups because the overall gene pool is much larger than the Ashkenazi one was.

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  94. There is zero doubt consanguinity leads to a significantly and substantially increased risk in genetic disorders, a risk that is in no way negligible. This is because of the simplest biology lesson you know: two people who function as ‘carriers’ for an autosomal recessive gene e.g. the commonest one is e.g. cystic fibrosis in whites.

    Leaving your cousins alone is a form of cultural conditioning that should be vastly encouraged.

    Remember the argument that Jews are clever is essentially a defense and looking for positivity against why they have so many genetic disorders in their small communities:
    http://andromeda.rutgers.edu/~socant/How%20Jews%20Became%20Smart%20(2008).pdf

    But of course, to fully disclose: I suppose Westerners have the option of genetic screening via blood tests/ultrasound and then opting for abortions if there’s any abnormality that is obvious (which isn’t always). As opposed to cultural conditioning. It certainly doesn’t help the welfare burden, healthcare burden (something which y’all have may to think about now! both abortions AND diseases) and the overall picture of society.

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  95. A hillbilly kid went into a whorehouse. The madam started to tell him about all the pretty girls they got there, but he just shook his head and told her, “no, I just want a good dose of clap”.

    The madam was taken aback. “What do you want that for?”

    “So’s I can give it to Sis,” says the boy.

    Now, that madam had heard some pretty rough talk before, but never anything like that. “Why, what did your sister ever do to you?” she asked.

    “Nothing,” says the boy. “We get along fine. But she’ll give it to Pa, before the week’s out.”

    The madam made a sad face. “Your Pa must be awful mean to you,” she says.

    “No,” says the boy. “Pa’s alright. I just want him to give it to Ma.”

    The madam was just shocked. “By God,” she says, “that’s a terrible thing to do to your own mother!”

    “Oh, I’ve got nothing against Ma,” says the boy. “But she’ll give it to the preacher, that put me out of the Sunday school. THAT’S THE SON OF A BITCH I’M AFTER!”

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  96. on November 12, 2009 at 6:38 pm gunslingergregi

    lol

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  97. I am really surprised by the negative attitude towards cousin-cousin sex expressed by some people on this blog. We live in the 21th century. By now we should have put these old taboos to rest. I think some people who consider themselves enlightened have a long ways to go to get to that place.

    Since they very likely have no intention of having a child, there is no issue with birth defects.

    How is this act more repulsive than two (or more) men having anal sex (with each other), or two women having sex with each other. Which is the most “natural” of these three scenarios?

    And for birth defects? The risk for birth defects (those which we can detect, which, I must tell you, are only those at the far end of the bell curve.) rise dramatically with maternal age. Where is the outrage at older women having children at all? Screening for defects with karyotyping is very crude.

    Wendy Schwartz of course provides much red meat for chewing.

    Wendy Schwartz’s disparagement of white men, again, is most puzzling. If she couples with a dark male, and has children, they will become ill from rickets in Pennsylvania, unless white males supply her dark child with vitamin D. (Damn those white males.) Dark skin is a birth defect in some environments, including her neck of the woods. So, coupling with someone more closely related genetically is often the better genetic strategy, if both are healthy and well adapted to their local environment.

    Outraged by white adults passing on birth defects to their children, are you now L.R. ? How about black people, who routinely give birth to children with sickle cell anemia. If black people were responsible, they would screen their “marriage” partners for sickle cell trait, and be very sure to test the fetus for sickle cell disease if both partners had sickle trait. How do you think the Jews wiped out Tay-Sachs disease? Evey black kid with sickle cell disease is an indictment of the black community.

    Our society is becoming more tolerant. Woody Allen married his step-daughter, and wasn’t put into jail. Now, that was an outrage, both marrying his daughter and not being jailed for it. I think that makes Allen beta, too. I mean, his daughter was Asian. How repulsive can one man be.

    So, screw your cousin if you want. It may be just another aspect of our culture’s degeneration, but, hey, go with the flow.

    Wendy Schwartz Have a nice day. It was so good to hear from you.

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  98. Roissy,

    On the reframe: Yes, once I snapped out of it I did say something to that effect.

    On the smilies: Yeah, I get it. Good point. It’s reflexive as I’ve blown too many women when I’ve come off as too arrogant in the cocky/funny mix. Compared to others I date, she requires smilies dialed back for sure…

    Her attitude: I think it’s partially status whoring but also this one has bitch shields on max.

    On earning the witty txt banter: Excellent.

    On the LTR status for this chick: Not what I meant to imply at all. I have no interest in that and am unsure I would unless she was completely bent to my will. As I said, she may require a degree of game that I frankly would not want to maintain for an extended period of time… but no reason not to try.

    This was good input and has already redirected my thinking about handling her. Thanks.

    Any other thoughts from the crowd would be appreciated.

    B.

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  99. Tommy,

    I had a similar question once and my response was something like, “Actually to decide whether I want to have sex with you… and you haven’t convinced me yet” delivered with half a smirk, a negative shake of the head, and a disapproving sigh.

    B.

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  100. on November 12, 2009 at 7:15 pm gunslingergregi

    She already tipped hand on me poor you rich.

    So she is using rules to try and bait you into long term goodness and to help her through b school and beyond.

    Now ya just have to say every time she asks what ya doin.

    Say at the strip club getting by dick tugged.

    Should speed up process.

    Of course if you have ltr itis it is not quit so easy. You are treating her differently than you would a chick you didn’t care about which actually is what makes it problematic.

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  101. Is this blog, the blog owner and the posters, a form of modern art?

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  102. on November 12, 2009 at 7:45 pm HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    wtf wtf [email protected] the cousin fucker guy.

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  103. “What’s embarrassing is seeing women who get married and live off of their husbands and don’t have their own careers/house/money/friends.”

    Maybe we should all try to mind our own business.

    This is why I’m a libertarian. It’s the hardest way to be, because you survive on your principles alone. That means nobody else in the world can help you, since they don’t matter.

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  104. “A lot of girls will game you with tactics such as the one word text for the sole purpose of eliciting a cunthungry reaction from you”

    Epic lulz

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  105. “I am really surprised by the negative attitude towards cousin-cousin sex expressed by some people on this blog. We live in the 21th century. By now we should have put these old taboos to rest. I think some people who consider themselves enlightened have a long ways to go to get to that place.”

    Simply more double standards from the looney left.

    It’s really hard to believe that once upon a time, the practice of white girls fucking black men was heavily frowned upon. Nowadays you sure aren’t allowed to say anything about it.

    If it involves white males having fun, then it’s taboo and gross. It’s as simple as that.

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  106. Oh, that’s the whole reason why we are required to pay for a marriage license. Back in the 1800s, it was supposed to serve as a deterrent against….uh…white women marrying black men.

    Now, it’s just another cash cow for government.

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  107. on November 12, 2009 at 9:02 pm Passing through

    For an exhaustive exploration of incest, see these installments:

    THINKING ABOUT INCEST: THE WHOLE SHEBANG
    http://whatsortsofpeople.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/thinking-about-incest-the-whole-shebang/

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  108. on November 12, 2009 at 9:12 pm learnedmonthstoolate

    Just out of nowhere, and I hope some sort of public service…quickly, guy who recently lost a very exciting on-the-side affair because of intermittent-to-relentless beta behavior (alas, “natural” to me)….discovering this site and the Game world about a week after it ended is causing me no end of chagrin as EVERY OBVIOUS MISTAKE becomes clear.

    I’ve been re-reading some of our correspondence (which is a beta mistake AGAIN, I know) (we lived 6 hrs apart in diff cities, both sit in front of computers all day = WAY too much IMing and emailing) and want to warn that while you may THINK you are getting away with some beta behavior—which it sure seemed I did, in retrospect there was all sorts of shit I said/did in week one that should have killed me dead with her–eventually it will add up and the thing that FINALLY makes her cut you off will seem so weirdly inconsequential you’ll assume she’s just insane.

    But the trail of mistakes that led you to fall into the death trap are there. So don’t assume (this is obvious I guess) that all the right behavior earned any credit, or that having “gotten away” with a few beta mistakes means yr in the clear. It’s all adding up. You CAN survive some such mistakes in the short term—we had some of our best times and sex after some crazily bad moves on my part–but you’ve laid the mine that will eventually and inevitably explode.

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  109. My first time was with a first cousin. Consensual incest is the best sex ever !!! ( But extremely awkward afterwards )

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  110. Whatever… Fucking cousins is not a priority, but if it happens, it happens, especially if in 29 years I’d only seen her twice, for a grand total of like 50 hours together in person… It’s basically doing a stranger… It’s not your typical redneck situation of having seen your cousin your entire life and THEN getting it on… This was the product of distance, time, and age…

    On an another note, when I was around 12, I met another little cousin of mine… she wasn’t more than 4 or 5 at the time and I remember thinking that she was going to be very pretty when she grew up… 15 years later, when I moved here to Houston, I saw her again and indeed she turned out to be a total Barbie, but we were instant friends from the time we met again, so that is a boundary that I’m never going to cross…

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  111. on November 12, 2009 at 10:31 pm unlearning genius

    cuz fucking really sounds greater omega to lesser beta. Not to mention the lifelong awkwardness …most women cannot keep their traps shut .. it is ok if out of desperation you fuck a fugly once in a while .. as long as nobody knows about it ..

    The same holds for fucking people in your office, in your professional circles, your friends’ girlfriends/wives…. you get the idea … Beyond like a 100 or so chicks, one or 2 chicks is hardly going to offer much utility .. after you are 30 or so everybody expects you to have seen enuf of girls to not be fazed easily .. to act otherwise is a huge DLV…

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  112. Skipping past cousin sex…cuz….well…yuck.

    But text game I’m interested in. I almost know too much about game now. I look too deep into the meaning of the texts I receive and I think too hard about when I’ll respond. Now I find I’m questioning if my first instinct was correct or if my first instinct was game in reverse. Over think much? Ya guilty.

    So here’s the thing…does a man like when a girl immediately responds? I don’t, but wonder if I’d send a stronger ‘I’m interested ‘message if I did. I think I may be playing guy game…gawd…what have I become!! Girls run!! 😉

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  113. aoefe

    But text game I’m interested in.

    I would never text anybody. That’s typing with thumbs on that mini keyboard, right?

    No way. I use the phone or preferably e-mail.

    Although I am looking forward to that new smoke signal phone that Steve Jobs is working on.

    It combines high tech with retro! It starts to smoke and then you put a hanky over it and…………

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  114. First cousin marriage depresses IQ, even if by only several points.

    Why go there?

    Second cousin marriage is probably ok.

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  115. “And considering how left wingers will only mate with left wingers”

    Yeah, really…what’s the last time you’ve seen a typical SWPL that radiated vigor, musculature and unmistakeable health. “Genetic lottery winner” isn’t the first thought that comes to mind.

    Their “politics” is the basis of their tragic genetic inheritance.

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  116. I will regret this later but here goes. I was 16, she was 14. We played ga

    Maybe I will regret this in the morning but sometimes the Truth Matters.
    She was my cousin, OK. We got started when I was 16 and she was 14. She was hot. Very hot.
    She still calls me at 3am from time to time. Husband, kid, and all.

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  117. “Their “politics” is the basis of their tragic genetic inheritance.”

    -“the basis of”+”based on”

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  118. mikeraw, your actually on here saying that one cousin fucking scenario is better than another.
    stab yourself

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  119. Is fucking yourself considered incest?

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  120. “Although I am looking forward to that new smoke signal phone that Steve Jobs is working on.

    It combines high tech with retro! It starts to smoke and then you put a hanky over it and…………”

    tears…tears are being shed. too frickin funny.

    “high tech and retro…”……ha…ha…ha.

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  121. Cousin marriage is a staple of the historical romance novel genre, so it is clear that a lot of women accept it and even find it hot.

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  122. Jesus H Christ. Wow… this is really fucked up. I grew up north of I-90.

    @joel

    “How is this act more repulsive than two (or more) men having anal sex (with each other),”

    You’ve got a point. Both are repulsive.

    “or two women having sex with each other. ”

    Nothing wrong with that as long as they both have long hair and I get to watch.

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  123. Hooooo-weeee! There are a lot more cousin fuckers here than I ever would have guessed.

    The occasional pairing of cousins may not be a big genetic risk (if you can get over the yech factor). But systematic cousin fucking generation after generation is a recipe for birth-defect-o-rama.

    A great example of this is the birth defect rate among British Pakistanis (who are deeply committed to fucking their cousins as a way of getting them out of Pakistan and into the UK).

    According to one estimate I saw, it’s 13 times higher than the rest of the population.

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  124. how does everyone feel about Aunt banging? (just being related by marriage) does this get condemned parallel to milf-hunting?

    Heh, true story: A few years ago, I’d been chatting up this woman online for a while and it was going very well, so we met for lunch. Afterward she took me on a tour of her town, showing me places she’d lived and stuff, and when we parted she was asking me to make plans for our next date. Everything looked good. By the way, she seemed to have a great sense of humor, and didn’t take anything too seriously.

    The next day, we were chatting and she mentioned that her teenage nephew was stopping by, and that he spent a lot of time at her place. I said he must have a crush on his hot aunt. She said I was sick. I figured she was laughing or that was a shit test, so I said, “Hey, every boy has a crush on an aunt at some point, that’s just how we are.” She didn’t say one more word.

    Next thing I know, she’s de-friended me on Myspace (where we met) and completely refused to talk to me. It wasn’t until at least a year later (when I was with someone else) that she suddenly popped up online and said hi, but even then she never mentioned that again.

    Clearly I touched a nerve there.

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  125. on November 13, 2009 at 6:10 am msexceptiontotherule

    “Wendy Schwartz

    Alright, please tell me this one is a joke. Thanks, Roissy you have embarrassed White People everywhere with this particular gem of a post…”

    Given all of the other sterling examples available in the ‘Roissy Archive Library’, it’s unlikely.

    “…Can you say “Bible-Belt-livin, Gun-Totin, Cousin-Fucking, straight-up White Trash” anyone?…”

    Sure I can say it, but I’m pretty sure that the cousin-fucking and white-trash stuff shouldn’t be a stereotype attached to all residents of the Bible belt region.

    “…And you guys wonder why White Women are turning to ANYONE other than White Men. This is why.”

    Speak for yourself, sister. Now of course it may just be because my family is ‘normal’ (normal being the absence of relatives-fucking and a level of morals worthy of receiving a commendation) but to generally state that white women are turning to non-white men in the manner above not only implies that it is the case for all white women, but it implies that the reason for it is also indicated in the above portion from your statements.

    I don’t have a problem with someone dating outside of their race, but I expect the same courtesy from that group regarding my personal preference to *not* do so.

    Regardless, I’m sure I could come up with a few reasons why dating or relationships with anyone of any race might seem so unpleasant that it would be easier to join a convent instead – and I’m not Catholic. But most people can find a reason that supports whatever they’re doing or not doing (often several reasons) and run with it.

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  126. @ Mhoram

    good story, and very true. The problem for you was to expose her slutiness, either real or at least in desire.

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  127. on November 13, 2009 at 6:44 am Epoxytocin No. 87

    Jesus, y’all are such a serious bunch.
    I’ve assumed from the start that Roissy’s cousin-shagging advice is satire, à la Swift’s Modest Proposal. But it appears I’m the only one.

    The bent here is so literal that I’m surprised you haven’t been deluged with posts pointing out that
    :`
    is closer to the golden two-thirds ratio than just “:”.

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  128. on November 13, 2009 at 7:01 am msexceptiontotherule

    “gunslingergregi
    Tyler that is pretty much every girl.

    You just have to get them to internalize that their body is no longer theirs but yours. I think the key to that opening of the door to anything”

    See, this would be an example of why we should start requiring a license and certification of “Not going to screw the kid up in the head” capability before someone can have children either biological or adopted/foster parent

    And there has to be a better way to do LTR and marriage relationships. But I’ll admit, the fact that those two options are the only thing I’ve experienced and would be looking for, does create a personal bias.

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  129. I’ve assumed from the start that Roissy’s cousin-shagging advice is satire

    You underestimate how widespread cousin-shagging is, and internet anonimity allows people to post their personal pervertions

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  130. Lugo

    Cousin marriage is a staple of the historical romance novel genre, so it is clear that a lot of women accept it and even find it hot.</i.

    Yeah but the guy has to have his on estate and horses and be a cold hearted bastard who uses women and doesn't care.

    And she has to be strong and independent and well aware that he is nothing but a no good cad whom she would never fall for. That is until………..

    (Bhetti just went and got her vibrator.)

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  131. Lugo

    Cousin marriage is a staple of the historical romance novel genre, so it is clear that a lot of women accept it and even find it hot.

    Yeah but the guy has to have his on estate and horses and be a cold hearted bastard who uses women and doesn’t care.

    And she has to be strong and independent and well aware that he is nothing but a no good cad whom she would never fall for. That is until………..

    (Bhetti just went and got her vibrator.)

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  132. Albert Einstein married a first cousin. So did Fredrich Hayek. Giants of the last century.
    Both were happy second marriages based apparently on some early , lifelong bonding that occurred.

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  133. Cliff Arroyo nailed it, the odd cousin bang in itself isn’t bad genetically, it just marginally increases the chance of undesirable genetics in the next generation. The real problem is that a society that has a lot of close and distantly related parents is likely to be inbred, and the problems compared to just one instance of children between closely related relatives increase exponentially. You can add a lot of European aristocratic blood lines to the Pakistani immigrants with 50% cousin marriages. European kings used to be the biggest, baddest brutes the world had seen. Between fighting to the death against dozens of their fiercest contemporaries in closely defined battles, they travelled around and bedded the hottest women in the kingdom, and that then became the next aristocratic blood line. Now that consolidating power by marrying your cousin has become the norm, many royals can barely read some crap a ghostwriter gave them and seem normal the rest of the time.

    You can stabilise certain traits if you avoid inbreeding with a good sized population (say a country with a few million people). But if you inbreed within the population, the genetic flux between the individuals becomes insufficient. Humans need a lot bigger gene pool than more primitive creatures, in fact the need for varied genetics in a population seem to increase with evolution.

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  134. Why are we talking about birth defects and stuff? He just wants to bang his cousin, not marry her and have babies. It could get a little awkward afterward, but if you meet only once or twice a year, I guess you can live with it.

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  135. Wow, when I said I messed with a cousin, I had not seen her in almost 15 years, but screwing a person you grew up with is weird. But I was born in NY, most southerners don’t get that logic.

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  136. @JerkDogg,

    I grew up north of I-90.

    useful phrase.
    me too.

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  137. Wendy Schwartz,

    you completely disagree with my reason for not dealing with men who text all the time because you are simply the female version of those men. You’re narcissistic, self-centered, and lack communication skills. I can tell all that about you from the things you’ve already said about yourself.

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  138. Once in my early 20s I was at a pool with a bunch of friends, including a guy and his very cute female cousin. On one point, she got out of the pool and sat with us (me, her male cousin, and possibly one other guy) and unbeknownst to her, her incredibly beautiful left breast had fully popped out of her swimsuit top, as she just sat there and chatted with us.

    It was probably about 10 seconds before she caught on. But it felt like thirty minutes of eyeball bliss. Me and her male cousin were just speechlessly staring. Blood was thumping in my head at this incredible sight.

    She looked down, turned crimson red, and covered it up. It was so hot for me. Was it hot for my buddy? Were their Thanksgivings awkward?

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  139. PA, how could a breast that you’d find incredibly beautiful pop out of anything?

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  140. Lugo

    Cousin marriage is a staple of the historical romance novel genre, so it is clear that a lot of women accept it and even find it hot.

    No, it’s not a staple.
    Either none of the popular historical romance novels I’ve come across in the past decade or so have that, or you’re taking this from before a decade ago and I’m not familiar with this. It doesn’t contribute in any extent to women reading historical romance novels. Women can suspend disbelief and forget the cousin ick factor if it’s in a historical setting, true. It may form part of the thrill of certain texts targeted at women — I’m not familiar with any — and the only story that seems to have an incest factor contributing I’ve heard about is Flowers in the Attic. That wouldn’t be classed as a romance, I’d imagine.

    Cousin marriages are sexless and women behave as if they’ve mated with an LJBF at best. This makes sense because mating with a cousin almost invariably doesn’t fulfil the hypergamous impulse; it’s not an increase in status and male relations are raised too similarly to be particularly impressive, mysterious or exciting. Parents invariably share demystifying stories. Essentially, I’ve found that any marriages of this type, the women seem to be settling, even if it is someone they have never met. The classic in terms of romance is Jane Austen and much of Pride & Prejudice was expressing her disgust with the nature of coupling with a cousin; it’s beta in nature. It is an option for a man with no options, claiming familial relations to secure a match if it’s for marriage and risking himself unnecessarily because he’s that desperate for a lay with her.

    The contexts people have talked about here is in terms of forbidden one-night stand type encounters, probably also fuelled with a rebellion against authority and social mores. There’s also an element of ‘it was date rape’ rationalising mentality that all of you should be aware of: she will most likely claim this against you if anyone finds out.* Even if she doesn’t press charges, your relationship with familial relations is ruined. It’s simply forbidding it that makes it exciting (for the girls at the very least) and attempting to make it more socially acceptable ironically banishes that factor completely.

    *
    Her mother: “You had sex with R!”
    Her: “It’s not what you think, it’s not like that.”
    Her mother: “Did you want to [my angelic snowflake]?”
    Her: “Uhm. I don’t know. No. Not really.”
    Her mother: “He made you…?”
    Her: “Um. I guess.”
    Her mother: ” Don’t worry, darling. We’ll handle it from here.”
    Her: ” Well, okay.”

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  141. Also: When she’s inebriated as well, the rape accusation becomes all the more likely.

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  142. the talk about hot cousin banging is definitely hotter than two fat fucks making chunky babies.

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  143. on November 13, 2009 at 1:56 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Ugh, you guys constantly toot the Darwinian horn not realizing that if you are so “into” Darwinism and survival of the fittest, you’d realize that you are contradicting yourselves then when you talk about how the ongoing “destruction of the natural family” is SOOO bad for society and waaaaahhhhh…..

    because if you really believed in survival of the fittest in the literal way, you’d realize that the fact that humans are OVER populating the earth now in times of women having babies with whoever wherever and marriage becoming obsolete, shows that for some reason apparently the “fittest” is the way things are NOW in the family dynamic, not the old way that you so desperately cling to.

    It just goes to show again that no one is meant to be monogamous (which anyone who understands Science should already know) but that women are no more “naturally” monogamous than men and clearly are not supposed to be.

    You can contradict a theory and worship it at the same time.

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  144. on November 13, 2009 at 1:59 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Oh, thank you Jamila…..

    Finally someone on here was able to stereotype me immediately JUST because I don’t agree with your “all girls love long chats on the phone” theory or your “all men who hate the phone are cheaters” ???? theory.

    My point was that most normal men do not “enjoy” chatting on the phone and it has nothing to do with them having a wife/gf on the side, nor is it an indication that they are cheating.

    Now, if you were with a man who ALWAYS called and ALWAYS loved phone chats the whole time you were together and suddenly stopped doing those things, THEN I could see your point….but that is definitely not the way you are presenting it.

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  145. on November 13, 2009 at 2:01 pm Wendy Schwartz

    And furthermore, Darwin was a douchebag. Once he can explain the survival of a Chihuahua, MAYBE I’ll respect his theories more.

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  146. on November 13, 2009 at 2:04 pm Wendy Schwartz

    ps MsExceptionToTheRule:

    I don’t date outside my race. I only date White Men. I actually believe in racial purity (including mixing my German blood with any other White Blood) however that doesn’t mean I’m blind to things that are true of my own race.

    Like it or not, white people are historically known for the most sadistic and often “child related” crimes.

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  147. on November 13, 2009 at 2:07 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Ugh Joel, you suck. You should know by now that I think anyone but German Protestants are crap including other White People….especially the Irish Catholics because they’re one step away from being Jews in my mind.

    I’m quite open about that, so NO there is no way that I’d ever have a mixed child or even a child that doesn’t have german influence from BOTH sides.

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  148. In the third reply to this post I mentioned that Charles Darwin married his cousin. Apparently almost nobody here knows who Charles Darwin was.

    Look him up on Wikipedia.

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  149. See, this is why I LOVE Wendy Schwartz. She says what most women think (but won’t say):

    1. Disdain or HATE HATE HATE for most White guys (who are beta).
    2. Alpha worship (Wendy Schwartz would love a cousin-humpin Alpha).
    3. Stripping.
    4. Single Mother.
    5. Thug chasing.
    6. Promiscuity. [AKA “I want to bang every Alpha I can.”]

    [Wendy’s hate of White men is due to their perceived lack of thug masculinity. Most women, particularly White women, have this view in one form or another. Most hide it better than Wendy. But there it is. Most White women prefer more thug-masculine-aggressive behavior which is conditioned out of most middle class White men at an early age. Ironically her son is likely to be either a jail-bound thug or pleading, placating beta who creates disgust from women (and likely, his mother) for his pedestal, supplicating ways. Funny too, since Muslims and Blacks and Hispanics tend to have far greater amounts of child abuse and assaults and the like.]

    Beautiful. If Clinton or Al Gore or Brad Pitt screwed a cousin Wendy Schwartz would be all over that like a stripper pouncing on a twenty. As always, it is all about the Alpha.

    Thanks Wendy Schwartz! You were missed!

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  150. Charles Darwin is one of my personal heroes, but I fail to see what him marrying his cousin has to do with any of this.

    In his time it was utterly normal and common for first cousins to marry and reproduce, so I doubt he would have even thought to apply his research in evolutionary theory and heredity to his marriage and their children.

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  151. Cousin banging, stepmother banging, step sister banging and all other questionable bangings are best left to the imagination and right hand. I had a friend who slept with his cousin. He said the sex was awful and they couldn’t look at each other for at least five years which made his other family members “concerned”. Bad mojo man. Bad mojo.

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  152. Wendy Schwartz:

    Finally someone on here was able to stereotype me immediately JUST because I don’t agree with your “all girls love long chats on the phone” theory or your “all men who hate the phone are cheaters” ???? theory.

    Don’t mischaracterize what I’ve said by adding your own melodramatics to it or attempt to attribute words to me that were never written.

    My point was that most normal men do not “enjoy” chatting on the phone and it has nothing to do with them having a wife/gf on the side, nor is it an indication that they are cheating.

    I never said that most normal men “enjoy” “chatting on the phone”. I said that if a man wants to get to know you he will call you. And if he doesn’t call you then it is DEFINITELY because of one of the reaons I listed, only one of which pointed to him being a cheater.

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  153. on November 13, 2009 at 3:29 pm gunslingergregi

    ”””””””msexceptiontotherule
    “gunslingergregi
    Tyler that is pretty much every girl.

    You just have to get them to internalize that their body is no longer theirs but yours. I think the key to that opening of the door to anything”

    See, this would be an example of why we should start requiring a license and certification of “Not going to screw the kid up in the head” capability before someone can have children either biological or adopted/foster parent

    And there has to be a better way to do LTR and marriage relationships. But I’ll admit, the fact that those two options are the only thing I’ve experienced and would be looking for, does create a personal bias.
    ”””””””

    What does that have to do with raising kids lol

    The woman still has to aquiese that her body is yours he he he

    ps on the cousin thing I didn’t actually have sex with her but she did stop me from jumping off a roof naked into a pool so yea a good girl.

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  154. Wendy Schwartz

    And furthermore, Darwin was a douchebag. Once he can explain the survival of a Chihuahua, MAYBE I’ll respect his theories more.

    The Chihuahua survives because of a displaced human need to care for small, neotenous creatures. The traits of the Chihuahua mimic the human infant traits that trigger protective instincts.

    Humans with more concern for babies are more likely to help those children survive and pass on the genes of people who have a strong concern for vulnerable creatures.

    The Chihuahua benefits from those species displaced instincts.

    Wendy Schwartz

    You should know by now that I think anyone but German Protestants are crap including other White People….especially the Irish Catholics because they’re one step away from being Jews in my mind.

    I’m quite open about that, so NO there is no way that I’d ever have a mixed child or even a child that doesn’t have german influence from BOTH sides.

    But the father of your child is of Irish (Catholic?) ancestry.

    Why bother to misrepresent yourself this way?

    Wendy Schwartz

    ps MsExceptionToTheRule:

    I don’t date outside my race. I only date White Men.

    Now. But you’ve acknowledged dating a black male when you were younger, although you denied fucking him. Which may or may not be true. You are not known for your consistent honesty on here.

    I actually believe in racial purity (including mixing my German blood with any other White Blood)

    Again, the father of your bastard son is Irish and a drinker. No stereotype there.

    whiskey

    See, this is why I LOVE Wendy Schwartz. She says what most women think (but won’t say):

    whiskey, as a functioning psychotic with autism spectrum disorder you LOVE, LOVE, LOVE anything that reinforces your narrow minded, dogmatic view of the world.

    That’s part of your mental condition. Reality will always be YOUR mortal enemy.

    [Wendy Schwartz’s hate of White men is due to their perceived lack of thug masculinity. Most women, particularly White women, have this view in one form or another.

    Wrong again you dorky, racially insecure mental defective.

    Most White women LOVE, LOVE, LOVE White beta males who like them, are fun to be with, and respect her and her family.

    They have NO interest in the sociopathic males you fear and envy as sexual rivals.

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  155. on November 13, 2009 at 3:51 pm gunslingergregi

    On the owning thing it can go both ways. She’s sitting on my stomach and picks my nose. Yea it freaked me out. I am like wtf. She is like your my man that’s my nose. I had to cave on that one. Good thing she is not “that” freaky he he he

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  156. on November 13, 2009 at 4:02 pm gunslingergregi

    Now when I spit in her mouth and she swallows it is pretty fun when I wrestle with her when she tries to reciprocate lol

    luckily I win.

    Sometimes I let her win.

    Either way we both laughing.

    I’m just a sic sic bastard two bottles short of a full medicine cabinet.

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  157. on November 13, 2009 at 6:21 pm The Incorrigible Troll

    Wendy Schwartz is by far the stupidest commentor on this site, as well as the ugliest.

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  158. on November 13, 2009 at 6:28 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Willard–

    Yes I dated a half black guy once when I was….errrr…in like 7th grade. So if that seriously counts as “having dated a black man” then sure but we’d have to count every guy who ever chased me around the playground as a “boyfriend” too.

    As for my son, yes his father WAS Irish (and non-practicing Catholic) however…..he was just as much German as he was Irish.

    So, about 75% German overall in my kid??? Sure, that’s close enough for me. Don’t nitpick, seriously.

    Admittedly I used to be a lot more liberal about who I dated (in terms of culture) but it was mostly when I was a kid and did it out of retaliation and defiance (against my parents of course). Now as I grow older I realize that Germans really ARE still superior to all other people (except maybe the Nordic and/or Russians) and my parents were more right than I realized!!!!

    Don’t hate on “growing up”, Willard.

    And yes, somehow Whiskey managed to list the complete OPPOSITE of what I like in men, in life, or even small details about me. I don’t understand HOW anyone can have so little reading comprehension skills and still be functional without the aid of medication.

    Whiskey, you’re adorable….but you are way off the mark as always. I LOVE Beta males because they give the fat girls and fag hags someone to cry to and keep them off the tv screaming “Big is Beautiful!!!” and teaching our little girls to be big, fat, ugly slobs just like men. All girls should understand the importance “being pretty” has in life. Pretty girls get treated FAR better by BOTH sexes than anyone else and to spit on that advantage and intentionally kick it away is just retarded. And the Beta-Boys and Gays are guilty of helping girls to do exactly that….but at least gay men don’t look at my tits.

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  159. on November 13, 2009 at 6:35 pm Wendy Schwartz

    I don’t why you guys still think it’s “embarrassing” that I was never married to his father (or any man for that matter).

    See, it’s very simple. I know the law. I never married him, and thus had a very good excuse NOT to give my son his stupid Irish name…..and ALSO complete legal freedom to list my son’s father as “unknown” on the birth certificate (even though I VERY much know) to ensure that if he EVER got near my son….

    I could have him arrested and thrown in prison for kidnapping. (Because as far as the law is concerned, he’s no one to my son unless he were to DEMAND and pay for a paternity test himself) which would never happen because he knows I’d slam him with all SIX YEARS of child support thus far in retaliation for DARING to try to contact me/my son at ANY point in his life.

    See how I had it all worked out before hand? It just pisses you guys off that women are intelligent enough to STILL have total control over their children WITHOUT taking any $$$$ from the “father” or from the government.

    (and ladies if you do the same thing I did, it’s “advance insurance” against a man EVER having a say or any rights to a child that you are in sole custody of. do yourselves a favor and UNDERSTAND how the law works and you’ll NEVER need to even have a man in your home/life ruining things and laying around like they all do.)

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  160. on November 13, 2009 at 6:50 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Whiskey–

    Also, I would never “chase alpha dick” or ANY dick for that matter…..girls don’t do that and I typically hate anything with a penis (except for my son because “motherly love” for your child trumps “gender-issues”….or my gorgeous blonde nephews, of course).

    I do NOT like black men, asian men, indians, or anything relating to acting like a “thug” (including rap music, B & E, gang-signs, ebonics, or anything even remotely “ghetto”)

    We don’t even HAVE Black People where I live, dude….seriously. (There’s ONE Black Guy in town. He has a mohawk and skateboards everywhere he goes. That’s it. We do have a lot of Chinks however because there are extremely expensive Prep Schools right down the street in my area and all the Chinks go there)

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  161. on November 13, 2009 at 6:45 pm The Incorrigible Troll

    Lady Deranged is a raving lunatic.

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  162. on November 13, 2009 at 6:46 pm The Incorrigible Troll

    Maybe someone spiked her meth.

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  163. on November 13, 2009 at 7:48 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Ummm no I never at any point claimed to be Irish. Willard is talking about my son’s father and obviously my son.

    Nice job, Slick.

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  164. on November 13, 2009 at 7:49 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Ohhhh stop crying that your penii (lol) are pretty much useless now and the ugly dudes that used to get laid because they had money can’t get laid either, now because we either:

    A. Have our own money

    B. Just take yours like you deserve.

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  165. See how I had it all worked out before hand? It just pisses you guys off that women are blind/selfish/undermining/moronic enough to STILL deprive their own offspring of having two parents

    do yourselves a favor and UNDERSTAND how the law works and you’ll NEVER need to work more than 4 hours a day, you can even have a man in your home/life to cook/clean/be-your-bitch while you constantly ruin things and complain around like all women do.)

    Fixed.

    Good to see you’re alive LR.

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  166. Wendy Schwartz

    Willard–

    Yes I dated a half black guy once when I was….errrr…in like 7th grade. So if that seriously counts as “having dated a black man” then sure but we’d have to count every guy who ever chased me around the playground as a “boyfriend” too.

    OK, but you chose to date him. It wasn’t merely tag on the play ground.

    As for my son, yes his father WAS Irish (and non-practicing Catholic) however…..he was just as much German as he was Irish.

    So he’s half Irish/half German?

    So, about 75% German overall in my kid??? Sure, that’s close enough for me. Don’t nitpick, seriously.

    Face it, your kid has been contaminated with inferior Irish genetics. Make sure he marries a pure German girl in order to clean up the bloodlines so your grandchildren will be an improvement.

    Admittedly I used to be a lot more liberal about who I dated (in terms of culture) but it was mostly when I was a kid and did it out of retaliation and defiance (against my parents of course).

    We know. The stripping, the sexual promiscuity, the love of anal sex, the desire to be “independent”.

    Now as I grow older I realize that Germans really ARE still superior to all other people (except maybe the Nordic and/or Russians) and my parents were more right than I realized!!!!

    Since when are Germans big fans of the Russians? Germans have traditionally viewed Russians as quasi Mongol barbarians and uncouth savages.

    Don’t hate on “growing up”, Willard.

    Go ahead grow up, but I think you are also rewriting your history. That’s not growing up, that’s covering up.

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  167. If LR really meant what she just wrote she would have gotten some clean, safe donor sperm.
    Since she has about as much self knowledge as the average kitchen appliance, she can say this kind of shit with a straight face.

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  168. Lady Rainy is lying again, as usual. Earlier this year she said she was Irish, but now she claims to be German and puts down the Irish. The idiot can’t keep her stories straight. Probably too much meth.

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  169. Or maybe she just got dumped by an Irish guy.

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  170. Most aristocratic/royal families in all areas of the world have practiced or did practice inbreeding for a very long time. However, their eventual decadence and decline can often be traced back to too much inbreeding.

    The most intelligent royals and aristocrats always allowed a slow but steady trickle of local peasant, artisan, or bourgeoisie blood in to their class because without it they would eventually decline because of their fanatic genetic exclusivity.

    Edgar A. Poe’s short story “The Fall of the House of Usher” is a great tale of the downfall a decadent inbred aristocratic family.

    + “Inbreeding caused demise of the Spanish Habsburg dynasty, new study reveals: One of Europe’s most powerful royal dynasties was so obsessed with securing its blue-blooded inheritance through family marriages that it brought about its own extinction through inbreeding, scientists have found.” – http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/5158513/Inbreeding-caused-demise-of-the-Spanish-Habsburg-dynasty-new-study-reveals.html

    With respect to the high incidence of consanguineous marriages in the Spanish Habsburg dynasty it is necessary to take into account that, from a Western perspective, marriages between close biological relatives is generally regarded with suspicion and distaste, reflecting historical and religious prejudice. However, contrary to widespread opinion in Western countries, consanguinity is widely preferential in present large human populations of Asia and Africa where consanguineous marriages currently account for approximately 20–50% of all unions (in the computation of these percentages those unions contracted between individuals biologically related as second cousins or closer are categorized as consanguineous) [9]–[11]. The highest levels of inbreeding in major populations have been found in urban Pondicherry (South India) and among army families in Pakistan where 54.9% and 77.1% of marriages are consanguineous, respectively [12]–[13]. In Pondicherry 20.2% of marriages are uncle-niece and 31.3% first cousins, whereas in the Pakistan study 62.5% of marriages are between first cousins. – http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0005174

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  171. Wendy Schwartz,

    As a Nord myself, it is shameful to see you lie about your ethnicity. You are no more German (or Irish, whatever flavor you claim to be this month) than a subsaharan African. For starters, your round head is a dead giveaway. Your nose is another.

    I’m not an expert on Eastern European racial groupings but your facial structure reminded me very much of Marishka Hargitay, and she is from Hungary.

    But I suspect there is something else in your blood. Maybe you are 5% Gypsy? Would explain the whoring, stripping, single motherhood, and general disregard for social norms.

    I’m not sure exactly where you got your mental illness from though.

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  172. Maybe I’m a tard but I have no Idea what the second one means (You)

    HER: “:)”
    YOU: “:”

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  173. L.R.’s machinations re: her son’s father should give any man pause.

    Of course, L.R. doesn’t worry about what her son might like or need.

    L.R. is a piece of work. While attacking Roissy, she’s sells Roissy’s philosophy to anybody who harbors doubts about his view of women. For example, her hatred of betas is palpable. Men, take notice.

    Re: Russians and Germans. The Germans might have relaxed their anti-Russian feelings after every f*ckable woman in Eastern Germany was raped after WW II, per order of Stalin, to “break their racial pride.” Seems to have worked in some cases.

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  174. on November 14, 2009 at 3:09 pm Wendy Schwartz

    As a Nord myself, it is shameful to see you lie about your ethnicity. You are no more German (or Irish, whatever flavor you claim to be this month) than a subsaharan African. For starters, your round head is a dead giveaway. Your nose is another.

    I’m not an expert on Eastern European racial groupings but your facial structure reminded me very much of Marishka Hargitay, and she is from Hungary.

    But I suspect there is something else in your blood. Maybe you are 5% Gypsy? Would explain the whoring, stripping, single motherhood, and general disregard for social norms.

    I’m not sure exactly where you got your mental illness from though.

    Yes I’m hiding my African Genes…..and my grandmother and greatgrandmother are also living under a false name (Fretz and Watz) are the family name and my last name is another German name as well……

    Furthermore, I’m White and magically cannot glance at another White person and tell whether they’re specifically Russian, German, Nordic, or a mix of all three…..somehow you have determined that I’m not German?

    Ugh and I do not look like Mariska Hargituay and am tired of people saying it (and also saying I sound just like her, too)

    Whoring? Ummm working in a strip club for less than a year is hardly prostitution nor a “lifetime of whoring” lol.

    Furthermore I never at any time SAID I was Irish, alluded to being Irish, or anything close to it and anyone who isn’t new here already knows that, so PLEASE read before tripping out.

    PS Willard–

    Yes I know that my son is “dirtied” by the Irish whether I care to admit it or not, but since he will never meet his “father” (since the last time they saw eachother he was 2 months old) there’s no reason why he’d even question his German Genes. He has my last name (errrr my father’s….) and there is no mention of ANY father on his birth certificate OR his Social Security card and once many years ago when he asked “Do I have a Daddy?” I simply said “No darling you don’t have one. Some kids don’t have moms….some don’t have dads….some don’t have aunt/uncles or grandparents….you are very lucky because you have all of those other people.”

    He was satisfied with that answer and trotted away happily never to ask that question again. (which is his normal and constant demeanor….fearless, happy, energetic, trusting, and really outgoing and friendly.)

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  175. on November 14, 2009 at 3:13 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Jesus, now I’m supposed to speak for ALL German-blooded people everywhere and HATE the Russians?

    Last I checked the Russians never did anything to me personally and I base “superiority” on what position they have held within contributing the world (Science, Technology, Space-Exploration, Military Defense, Medical, etc.)

    And Germany has always excelled in all of those fields and still do (especially their far superior education system).

    Russia was responsible for many of the most important advances in some of those fields as well (they used to, at least)……so I give them their respect based on THAT not some shit that they did/didn’t do specifically to ALL Germans EVERYWHERE sometime in history. That’s just dumb.

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  176. on November 14, 2009 at 3:15 pm Wendy Schwartz

    I’m not sure exactly where you got your mental illness from though.

    Yeah there’s nothing more “shameful” than having OCD and being obsessively neat, organized, clean, and disciplined in everything I do. Not to mention that according to Medical Experts, OCD ONLY effects people of above-average intelligence.

    Yes, shameful indeed.

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  177. on November 14, 2009 at 4:12 pm Wendy Schwartz

    Mr M–

    Nice rewrite!!! No I don’t hang out with my ex anymore because during my absence here he wanted to BUY A HOUSE for me and I finally had another “sit down” with him and explained we would never be together…..

    We are still friends but I only have him come over randomly (like once a month) to hang with my fam since he’s close to my son and my other nephews.

    Also, since I’ve been casually seeing Eric I can’t have some dude hanging around the house because it would be disrespectful (and I actually really like him because we never see eachother, he hates talking on the phone like I do,and is a sarcastic, hateful, work-obsessed asshole just like I am.)

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  178. on November 14, 2009 at 5:51 pm Wendy Schwartz

    “Of course, L.R. doesn’t worry about what her son might like or need.”

    You’re right, Joel I’ll bet my son would LOVE to be abused, beaten, and verbally shamed by a drunken piece of shit on a daily basis like I was. He must be really jealous of all those kids who hear their parents scream at eachother every night, abuse eachother, and go out and cheat on eachother…..

    God, how I hope he forgives me.

    Good call. He’s far worse off being in a home where his cousins and he play all day, family is #1, he sees his only and favorite Aunt everyday, his grandparents, and his Uncle….AND being in a really good school district in a town where crime doesn’t exist in an area where MOST of the people came from German Heritage just like him.

    You’re right, what a bitch I am.

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  179. on November 14, 2009 at 5:54 pm Wendy Schwartz

    ….I’m sure he’ll also HATE me for sending him to Perkiomen Preparatory Academy at $25,000 a year up until 5th grade at which time he will go directly to the Valley Forge Military Academy which boasts some of the highest job placement and academic excellence for boys in the country…..

    Sure, his drunken Irish piece of shit “father” would have really been a much better choice.

    Thankfully, he will never know his name, never need his money, or even know he existed (unless I were to become stupid and decided I wanted Child Support….but that isn’t going to happen)

    He proudly announces that he is “Caeden Sch—–” and “This is my only and best mother in the world”….lol no he really does and it’s weird.

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  180. on November 15, 2009 at 9:40 pm msexceptiontotherule

    “Wendy Schwartz
    ps MsExceptionToTheRule:

    I don’t date outside my race. I only date White Men. I actually believe in racial purity (including mixing my German blood with any other White Blood) however that doesn’t mean I’m blind to things that are true of my own race.

    Like it or not, white people are historically known for the most sadistic and often “child related” crimes…”

    Whoa now, I didn’t say anything about racial purity – who and where they’re from is a matter of personal preference that each person has the right to determine for themselves where dating is concerned. The whole “white is right” and constant barrage of “this is how all white people think” nonsense is exactly why I wouldn’t be welcome at a Katt Williams comedy show, or one of the rare occasions that Wu-tang makes an appearance on stage – reverse racism and the crazy interest in beating up and tossing the white girl out back into the alley isn’t my idea of a good time. Not that I blame them for having assumptions, since that’s something we’re all guilty of at one time or another, but a spirited debate over the inherent racist judgments isn’t likely to happen at either example, especially when it’s just one or a few at most from one side and an entire auditorium from the other.

    And I’m sure that there have been comparable atrocities committed by non-whites, you just have to know what country to look for them in. Torture, total annihilation of an entire segment of the population for religious or political reasons, murder, rape and pillaging….I can think of two general areas in the world that have both historically and currently seen such things – Africa, East Asia. Every time someone decides to take over a country in Africa, they have to kill the current government and all of their family members plus anyone seen as being loyal to the “former” government. They also routinely torture people for various reasons. Oh yeah, and if you want, you can also include the Palestinians and their ongoing efforts to get back at least part of Israel from the Jews because well, they were actually living there and when the Jews decided they’d take whomever wanted to go from their people who survived WWII and thought that it would be much easier to evict the current population than it turned out to be. A huge part of the move was facilitated by death, intimidation, and economic deprivation by the jews and to the palestinians. East Asia has seen Japan going in to China and Korea where they raped pillaged and slaughtered their way into occupation of large areas of both countries, and all three of them have organized crime problems. The whole child-sex-crime thing is more likely something that they don’t talk about openly the way Americans do. In some areas, children, young women and men, are bought and sold like cattle without anything appearing on the news about it. Why? Because the only time that happens in their countries, it’s because the media from the United States has decided to do a story on it, or there’s some new international legislation that the United States and her allies are trying to get everyone on board with.

    This is why we should go back to being isolationists.
    At least then, we wouldn’t be seen as rude, loud, and arrogant capitalist pigs. Because we’d be dealing with the starving people in our own streets, and the people who are taken and put to work as prostitutes in various areas of our own country.

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  181. ms–

    My point on the “White People” stuff was that just because I don’t automatically point out ALL the virtues of white people and NONE of the bad points…..doesn’t make me “white-hater” nor does it mean I “love black men”.

    Yes, I agree. Blacks commit the most overall rape (meaning adult vs. adult) and also the most general “assault” related crimes, for example….. every culture is prone to different “assholery” but no one will just goddamn admit it and be over it.

    It’s just ridiculous that I’m supposed to pretend white people are perfect just because I LIKE being white and happen to BE white.

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  182. And to lay this “Cousin-Banging” thing to rest.

    Every argument involving comparing modern Western Society to Royal Heirs of the Dark Ages and Barbaric 3rd World Country Traditions to “justify” a modern civil person fucking their cousin is like saying:

    “Well since humans (allegedly) come from monkeys and have similar traits to monkeys, then it’s perfectly acceptable to fling poop at each other just like they do.”

    Making a loose historical connection doesn’t make things any less DISGUSTING and WRONG.

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  183. UGH! You make me sick. Why oh why do you keep on getting grosser?

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  184. ”””””’ or one of the rare occasions that Wu-tang makes an appearance on stage – reverse racism and the crazy interest in beating up and tossing the white girl out back into the alley isn’t my idea of a good time.”””””””””””

    I’ll take ya. You will be fine. he he he

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  185. on November 17, 2009 at 4:44 am msexceptiontotherule

    I’d settle for raekwon, ghostface killah, method, red, gza, cappadonna….separately, together, wtf not. Besides, it’s impractical for the 100+ loosely affiliated members to fit anywhere but in a large venue & in the audience with everyone else.

    “Gunslingergregi

    I’ll take ya. You will be fine. he he he”

    You’d better be careful what you say you’ll do, since I could very well decide to hold you to it. Although with the specific circumstances being as unlikely as they are to do a show and thus don’t believe this will require any follow through on your part. However, you’ve probably just jinxed yourself by thinking that you’d picked something you’d never actually be expected to do.

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  186. on November 17, 2009 at 4:49 am gunslingergregi

    What I said I would take you.

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  187. on November 17, 2009 at 4:51 am msexceptiontotherule

    I have to confess, I have such a wide range of music genres that I like, and for some reason or another some rap is included. Amg, Ice Cube, Wu-Tang (but not *all* of them, some I am unable to appreciate) Dj Quik, and so forth. My ringer on my cell phone is C.R.E.A.M. – both ironic and reality at the same time!

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  188. on November 17, 2009 at 4:52 am gunslingergregi

    but yea no tickets available at this time.

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  189. on November 17, 2009 at 4:54 am msexceptiontotherule

    Yeah, now we just have to wait for them to do a show – you got any connections that might be able to set that up? I don’t think that mine are going to be very well-received. No one wants a visit from someone in the government that instructs them what they’re going to do, especially in certain crowds.

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  190. on November 17, 2009 at 4:57 am gunslingergregi

    Well there is a lot of truth about money in rap just not really the best way to get the money expressed. Importance of it is about right though.

    I think it does help people get killed when people listen to rap. But hey f it I guess.

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  191. on November 17, 2009 at 4:59 am gunslingergregi

    Well we might be able to get them to do a show I am guessing at around 250k or so if ya got that.

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  192. on November 17, 2009 at 5:03 am gunslingergregi

    Might make 300 though. From what I heard from my buddy and a venue to do the show was only gonna run a k for the stadium rental cost.

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  193. on November 17, 2009 at 5:19 am msexceptiontotherule

    Let me just go check the vault. *Fuck*!!!

    I should have waited on paying the balance of my mortage, and now that it’s too late to get the money back, I’m stuck.

    I wonder how much they’d want for doing a show with an audience of like…2 people. 😉

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  194. on November 17, 2009 at 5:19 am gunslingergregi

    Checking he he he

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  195. Wendy Schwartz’s sister again. Ahh cousin fucking. Truly a new low. Well I guess all the men NOT getting laid need something to talk about and do all the time. Its good that we all took your rights of selecting anyone for reproduction long ago. I fear that your parents as well believed in cousin fucking and thats why you are….well what you are. A sad joke that people read to mock. Please please keep in mind that you are just sperm donors, preselected by us for certain qualities we are looking for in our children. After that we toss you out like yesterdays trash at which point you end up raging out in silly blogs such as this. Ive actually given you too much credit up until this point.

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  196. Fun thread until the Queen Troll took it over with her bullshit.

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