Marie Claire Blogger Spills Truth, Fatties Erupt On Cue

Some chick named Maura Kelly who writes for Marie Claire had a truth serum moment and admitted what we all feel — fatties included — when we have to see fat people existing in our field of view.

So anyway, yes, I think I’d be grossed out if I had to watch two characters with rolls and rolls of fat kissing each other … because I’d be grossed out if I had to watch them doing anything. To be brutally honest, even in real life, I find it aesthetically displeasing to watch a very, very fat person simply walk across a room — just like I’d find it distressing if I saw a very drunk person stumbling across a bar or a heroine addict slumping in a chair.

What person, besides a freak outlier fat fetishist, enjoys the sight of a fat load waddling down the street or face-smashed with another fatty in corpulent PDA? Two zeppelins careening into each other for an intimate embrace as their rolls undulate outward like a flesh tsunami is repulsive. Or something to laugh at to take our minds off our revulsion. The morbidly obese are the modern monster, a hideous deviation from the evolved human norm; they are loathsome creatures who inspire our hate and jeering. Fat people cause environmental degradation by despoiling pristine views of healthy, sexy people, and by eating more than they need to survive. Telling them to push away from the table is the green thing to do.

Naturally, the utterance of such an ugly truth caused a stampede by fatsos and fembots.

“Do you think all of the people who read your magazine are a size 6?” wrote one reader. [Ed: No but they should be.]

“People like you ‘contribute to the obesity problem’ with being so shallow,” fired another commenter. [Actually, I think the donuts do that.]

“I have an overweight little girl who does not sit in front of the TV for hours, or constantly eat. She is adorable, smart, funny and will be a wonderfully productive member of society,” added one angry mom on Shine. [And ignored by men.]

Another reader dripped with sarcasm: “Dear Maura Kelly, I sincerely apologize for my disgusting body and all the various rolls of fat on my person.” [Not good enough. Less talking, more exercising.]

James Zervios, director of communications for the Obesity Action Coalition, an advocacy group for obesity education, said, “You’d never see an article like that about a cancer patient. It saddens me that those who suffer from obesity aren’t treated with the same respect.” [One guess how cancer is different than obesity.]

Zervios worries Kelly’s message that over-weight people are “gross” sends a damaging message to the 93 million Americans affected by the epidemic, many of them children. [Because a mean word is much more damaging to one’s health than an extra 100 pounds.]

“It’s bad enough that magazines Photoshop people’s bodies to look more unattainable, now you have a writer at one of them saying they can’t stand to look at an obese person. A young over-weight girl should never have to read that kind of article.” [On the contrary, the best thing for her is a helpful reminder of her ugliness. Don’t want the chubby younguns growing up with unwarranted high self-esteem.]

But Zervios blames the media at large for the growing intolerance of the over-weight. “I think the word ‘fatty’ should be stricken from magazines and TV in general,” he says. “Anytime obesity is brought up in pop culture people think it’s okay to go for the jugular.” [It is a natural inclination to ostracize the weak and the monstrous.]

This “blame the media” refrain is the reflexive blurt of the human nature denialists. It comes in many flavors: blame society, blame cultural conditioning, blame stereotyping, blame heteronormativity, blame subtextual bias… anything to avoid confronting the reality of evolved immutable human preferences for some traits over others. People are intolerant of obesity because it innately disgusts them, not because “the media” tells them to be disgusted. Media propaganda can make it more or less acceptable to publicly express that disgust, but it can’t create the disgust out of thin air.

Unsurprisingly, the shrikes over at Jizzabomb were in high dudgeon.

How could [Maura Kelly] think this was acceptable? It’s that, as much as anything else, that’s worrisome: that at a mainstream magazine with a wide reach and an ostensibly progressive outlook could think, in 2010, this was okay to write and implicitly endorse.

American feminism — supporting the right to freely speak one’s mind since… well, never. Parrot zee PC party line or vee vill suffocate you mit our precision-engineered pendulous ta tas!

After 30,000 comments of roly-poly righteous indignation, Maura Kelly meekly capitulated on her blog and apologized. But she apologized in that peculiar female way which attempts to reframe the apology as a self-pity party to warm the crowd to her side.

To that point (and on a more personal level), a few commenters and one of my friends mentioned that my extreme reaction might have grown out of my own body issues, my history as an anorexic, and my life-long obsession with being thin. As I mentioned in the ongoing dialogue we’ve been carrying on in the comments section, I think that’s an accurate insight.

Translated from womanese: “I’m hurting too! Redraw alliances.”

Sometimes I feel a bit lonely out here in this borderland outpost of the internet. My wrecking balls — enormous though they are — can only demolish so much shit in a lifetime. Luckily, I’m getting help from the far reaches of the world. In Brazil, college guys are jumping on fat chicks and riding them like rodeo bulls until they are bucked off. Points are scored for how long they can stay on. (Translation algorithm needs work.)

A group of students from Universidade Estadual Paulista, one of the most important of the country, organized a “competition”, called “Fat” of Rodeo, whose goal was to grab their colleagues, the obese, preferences and try to simulate a Rodeo–getting as long as possible on the prey.

Be careful. You do not want to get kicked in the nads by a diabetic cankle or glassed by a flying fupa.





Comments


  1. Sometimes I feel a bit lonely out here in this borderland outpost of the internet. My wrecking balls — enormous though they are — can only demolish so much shit in a lifetime.

    don’t give up the good fight! There are those of us out here rooting for you.

    And for a certain segment of men out there: please stop banging the fat chicks. It’s just gross. If you’re doing it, you know who you are.

    It’s awful to have to look at a fat chick. However, it’s even worse to see a really fat chick with three kids in tow. It’s just a reminder that some guy sold out his fellow men by banging this warpig.

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  2. question: does shaming the obese result in more harm, or more help? is it more effective to remain hush, or to provoke them?

    answer: there is no evidence for either strategy.

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  3. “Zervios worries Kelly’s message that over-weight people are “gross” sends a damaging message to the 93 million Americans affected by the epidemic, many of them children.”

    93 million.

    93 MILLION.

    “affected by the epidemic”. Smallpox might be an epidemic. The hanta virus, or ebola, those might be epidemics. A group of human swine eating as fast as their chubby, stumpy, little forearms can shovel food from the coffee table to their mouths as they strain not to miss the latest reality tv shows is not an epidemic. Its a disgrace.

    And this guy thinks an article that articulates the common, visceral, reaction that most of us have to obscenely overweight pigs is the problem?

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  4. My response to James Zervios, director of communications for the Obesity Action Coalition would go something like this:

    “Fuck you.

    I repeat, FUCK YOU.

    When I was in my early 20s, I was diagnosed with testicular cancer. It could have killed me, were it not for the dedicated doctors and medical staff, as well as the modern technology, who saved me.

    I asked my doctor why I caught this cancer. I was a healthy, athletic young man who exercised every single day and never smoked. He just shrugged and said “It happens.”. Most cancer, whether it’s of the breast, prostate, testicles, lymphnodes, etc. is just an accident of nature. It happens, and there’s not much you can do about it.

    Your disgusting obesity, on the other hand, is 100% YOUR FAULT. You eat too much. You eat the wrong things. You sit on your ass all day and refuse to exercise, and the result is that you turn into a disgusting fatass.

    Your obesity=cancer tripe is fucking offensive to cancer survivors like myself and if you said it to my face I’d take the donut out of your hand and punch you in the throat.

    I repeat: Fuck you.”

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  5. Gunn says, “And this guy thinks an article that articulates the common, visceral, reaction that most of us have to obscenely overweight pigs is the problem?”

    When most of “us” are overweight pigs or self inflicted cancer, and pancreatic and thyroid disorders waiting to happen, the “disgust” is more like hypocrisy.

    …which is natural, but still not helpful.

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  6. Obesity Action Coalition? That’s rich. Isn’t that the problem? Their sedentary, disgusting lives-no moving, no action? Jumbo shrimp anyone?

    Another revolting thing is fat smell and the panting instead of breathing.

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  7. on October 28, 2010 at 4:13 pm The Rational Male

    “They” would like for us to believe that anorexia is a horrible epidemic that must be eradicated and obesity is a “disease” that deserves sympathy. Walk down any city street in the US and tell me the ratio of overweight folks to those who are underweight. 1000 to 1?

    Yet another example of PC feminized culture trying to level the playing field for the few crazy chicks who barf up their lunch and the gluttonous fucks who can’t stop shoveling food down their throats.

    Once again, FUCK america.

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  8. @ExtraStout

    Unfortunately, that kind of logic is lost on Obese Action Coalition types. Maybe you should e-mail them anyway.

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  9. ExtraStout, not to minimalize what happened to you in any way, but your doctor lied to you.

    [Editor: Correction: You are lying to everyone here.]

    http://menshealth.about.com/od/cancer/a/test_cancerup.htm

    Since being White is probably not why you got testicular cancer, it could have been something in your or your parents’ diet and environment.

    [Obesity is a self-inflicted deformity. Except in the case of smokers and heavy drinkers, cancer is a random stroke of bad luck. Please roll your fat fuck self in front of a bus.]

    There are many health problems that can be attributed to the typical western diet and pollution. Perhaps from eating more grains, we’re ingesting more pesticides than we would on a diet of meat and vegetables that wouldn’t soak up so much of it.

    Someone else could be fat (lethargic, insulin resistant, etc.) for the same reason you got cancer.

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  10. Women are strong and independent until faced with the awesome and unholy power of baked goods.

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  11. As I’ve always said, fat women should be paired off with fat men and everyone will be happy.

    [Editor: I believe this was answered the last time you said this. Fat guys don’t find fat chicks attractive any more than thin guys do. Which is to say, not at all.]

    Slim girls for guys in shape, fat girls for fat guys.

    Simple

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  12. Rational, the feminists help create this problem, and now they’re trying to cover it up.

    They were on a mission to close the size differential between the genders as early as 1912. So I’m not a “fat acceptor” of the sort who thinks everybody should be okay with fatness.

    I’m just trying to help put things in perspective. Many people are ill and dysfunctional and yet being promoted as okay or even ideal. It all disgusts me, not just the attempt to make people think they are fat just from consuming too many calories. I’m also against the trannies being promoted as the feminine ideal. They’re far more ubiquitous in the media than the odd fat chick.

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  13. Roissy is only getting more hits than ever. Maybe it’s all going mainstream.

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  14. Obesity is spreading far beyond our shores too. McDonald’s, KFC, and the like are invading the haven of Eastern Europe.

    I almost broke out in tears when I saw a group of Russian broads chomping on down on Big Macs. It’s like you could see the hotness draining out of them.

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  15. Of the 26 members of the Obesity Action Coalition’s boards listed in their current annual report, 21 of them either are bariatric surgeons, work for bariatric surgeons, or went through the surgery or related extreme weight loss themselves. Not a one is obese.

    How’s that fat acceptance working out for y’all?

    http://www.obesityaction.org/aboutus/annualreports/2006%20Annual%20Report.pdf

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  16. @TripleS

    As I’ve always said, fat women should be paired off with fat men and everyone will be happy.
    Slim girls for guys in shape, fat girls for fat guys.
    Simple

    It seems like it should be that way, but the problem is that men and women evaluate one another differently.

    The SMV of a fat chick is very low. There’s nothing she can do to raise her SMV except stop shoveling chocolate down her throat.

    The SMV of a fat guy is lower than a guy in good shape if all other things are equal. However he can make up for that by having confidence, dressing well, showing dominance, making money, etc. A fat guy can get a slim girl if he’s got game.

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  17. Tinderbox-very interesting. A whole industry-this obesity acceptance/treatment movement is like a new religion; healers, preachers, confessionals.

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  18. People vote with their Wallets

    Actuaries are calculating the $/Lb. cost differential that every fat person by lb. costs every member of population in USA.

    Fat is a choice.

    There were no fat people in Nazi camps. Not one picture exists.

    Why is that?

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  19. “A whole industry-this obesity acceptance/treatment movement is like a new religion; healers, preachers, confessionals.”

    And fucking scary.

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  20. Don’t worry, Marie Claire is making up for their misguided “provocation”.

    http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/opinion/fat-people-exist

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  21. If I recall the line correctly from Rush Hour 3, some lady lardass complains to Chris Tucker that her obesity is due to a “pituitary issue”. Tucker’s classic response: “Well damn girl, stop eating so much pituitary!” So long as there are gyms they can join that they aren’t joining and diet programs they can follow that they aren’t following, I will never feel the least bit sorry for any of these sows. And yes, they should keep their slobberfests with their equally rotund boyfriends out of the public view.

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  22. I have become disgusted with fat people. I’m generally of the “live however the hell you want to live” persuasion, but watching mounds of fat waddle around who have eaten themselves to a handicap disgusts and saddens me. How many people can’t go up a flight of stairs, run in an emergency, or play with their children because they’re too fatty McFuckin’ fat fat? I’m not talking about an unsightly few pounds; I’m talking about being 100 pounds overweight or more. Do people not wake up in the morning and realize, “Holy fuck, I look like a walrus”?

    Also nauseating is the new normal. Girls who, even 20 years ago would be considered a little hefty, parade around as popular girls wearing “cute” clothing. When I see a college age girl with a little extra weight, I sometimes forget that a generation or two ago, she would have been a svelte target of my desire. I then flash forward 20 years and imagine how “rotund” will be a more fitting description. And these are girls that feel NO shame. They flaunt their bodies.

    This nation is so weak, stupid, and fat. There is only so much longer that we can depend on the generations that actually busted their asses. Fuck us.

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  23. al:

    OMG the chick who wrote the fat article has a blog:

    http://www.fatshionista.com/cms/

    Pass the brain bleach.

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  24. on October 28, 2010 at 4:44 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    Sometimes – its rare though – my own country makes me so proud!

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  25. if Marie Claire truly wanted to make up for daring to tell the truth, they should publish a whole year’s worth of magazines only using the obese to morbidly obese as models.

    This post reinforces my belief that while some fat chicks are apologetically nice, most obese chicks are just mean and defensive.

    Also, this “affliction.” An ex had lunch with a manatee couple, they didn’t order the side salad. No, these fat fucks ate the menu. Some wings and calamari as appetizers, full entrées, and desserts. An Easter dinner’s worth of calories just for Tuesday afternoon lunchies.

    And reading this just after having read about the work the cast of 300 did to get in shape!

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  26. I hate when people blame their obesity on genes or hormones or whatever else they’re being told makes it OK for them to continue horking down McD’s and KFC and whatever the hell else they want. But to classify this lack of restraint as a “disease” or an “epidemic” is taking it too far. Being fat is a character defect, and that defect is stupidity.

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  27. “Obesity is a self-inflicted deformity. Except in the case of smokers and heavy drinkers, cancer is a random stroke of bad luck. Please roll your fat fuck self in front of a bus.”

    You are more likely to die in such an accident than I am.

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  28. The equivalence between fat women and fat men is a false one.

    Which is why the strident feminists are the ones taking up the banner on behalf of fat acceptance — its a tacit admission that looks are disproportionately important to a woman’s value.

    Of course, that unspoken truth will be lost on most.

    The unfounded idea that fat men like similarly fat women is also belied by the fact that thin men will sleep with fat women if they’re lacking in game, assets, and status. That is, they’re desperate.

    Extremely fat men often have (justifiably) very low confidence, which translates into very low success with women, which leads to bottom-feeding with a fat gal that they “have so much in common with.” These unions are a chief producer of obese children.

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  29. Another Jezebel blogger wrote a rant on the Marie Claire article:

    If You’re Fat-Phobic, You’re Also an Ignorant, Bigoted Idiot

    “If you think that watching a fat person walk across the room is “gross,” and if you think not allowing readers to comment on a woman’s weight is “glorifying” obesity, you are a bigot. You are treating a group — people who weigh more than “normal” (whatever that is) — with hatred and intolerance.”

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  30. Gosh, i love Mc donalds, don’t be so harsh on it.

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  31. Roissy, any wonders about why it is in Brazil that the most beautiful women in the world are found?

    Sexually speaking, this place is wonderful.

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  32. Hatred and intolerance is a good thing. It means you’re human and have a brain. Besides, I’d rather see who I’m dealing with than to have them in hiding, afraid to speak up, even if I disagree with them.

    Just understand that if you don’t control the venue, you don’t get to decide what’s said or not said there. If you feel strongly enough about the issue, build your own site, and you can say whatever you like.

    It’s what I did once I figured out I’d been lied to.

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  33. Friend of mine went to the weight loss clinic with his Brilliant Idea: they should get their clients to take a cold shower every day to boost their metabolism.

    The woman at the clinic said to him, “Look, if our clients had the self-discipline to take a cold shower every day, they wouldn’t be our clients.”

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  34. Theres a facebook page for the magazine that published it, and all the lard ass posters have their XXXL panties in a huge wad over this.

    When talking to fat people its best not to sugar-coat the truth, because they would probably eat that too.

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  35. to go deeper, does the left have to apply the “criticizing it only makes it worse” viewpoint to everything? “Oh no, you told the truth about obese people, you’re making them worse!!!” “Oh no, you told the truth about Muslims, you’ll only make them bomb us more!”

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  36. McGuinness, I’m thinking about making a deal with a gastric bypass surgeon to run around picking on fat people with his link in the posts.

    See, I can’t justify promoting the shady mechanics in the weight loss business unless I’m getting a piece of the pie.

    Every time you pick on fat people without offering a real solution, you send then straight into the arms of con artists. It’s like you’re giving them free advertisement. You should at least get paid for all your promotional efforts.

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  37. She’s entirely on spot.

    I wish we could support her somehow for being so bold in such an open place (unlike Roissy, she does stand to lose her job in a blink for saying the truth).

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  38. I loved your comments to the comments. “…and ignored by men.”

    How long do you think before she has to make an apology for expressing what everyone else is thinking.
    ———

    Here’s what got me the most upset:

    “Do you think all of the people who read your magazine are a size 6?” wrote one reader. ” -Fat Bitch

    First of all, it is not a zero sum game. To not be obese, one does not have to be a small dress size. How about just dont be a size 22?

    Second of all, on what planet does this woman think a size 6 is tiny (she was being hyperbolic to prove a point.). A size 6 Misses in the USA is HUGE. I wear a size 5/6 junior’s and can barely wear the Misses 2’s. Vanity sizing is OUT OF CONTROL. Old Navy, fatty central, is one of the biggest enablers.

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  39. p.s. the magazine appears to have deleted my (polite) response in support of Ms. Kelly. So much for free speech.

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  40. This reminds me of when South Park made fun of AA for calling alcoholism a “disease.”

    Go to sub-Saharan Africa and count the obese people. I bet 100% of them work in high levels of government or whatever passes for industry there. The US probably has more fat dogs and cats than Africa does fat people.

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  41. weak people do not matter, who cares if a bunch of fatties are pissed because they have been called out on their gross exteriors…

    It’s Tuff Love!

    No one is doing the 10 yr female fatties any favors by sparing their feelings.

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  42. If anorexia were as big of an epidemic as the media makes it out to be, this nation’s cardiologists would hold a ticker-tape parade in every major city!

    Fat people are disgusting. It isn’t a disease, it’s entirely within their control, they just don’t want to do anything about it.

    I would have no problem hunting the fatties for sport. I figure that it’s two birds with one stone:

    If the fatties can survive the hunt, they’ll have gotten into something approaching decent shape. If they don’t survive the hunt, then the rest of us won’t have them blocking our field of view from the the remaining thin hotties out there.

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  43. Nicole- here is a solution.

    Dear fat people of the world:

    1) Eat non-processed foods, low in carbohydrates.

    2) Don’t count calories. Don’t binge, either.

    3) Lift weights twice a week, sprint or do something high intensity twice a week

    4) Try to have a short eating window (6-8 hours) and fast the rest of the time

    5) Limit Omega 6 polyunsaturated fatty acids and take Vitamin D (especially if you’re dark) and fish oil

    6) If you cheat, try to go for a low carb option (crustless cheesecake made with splenda, bacon wrapped bacon)

    The end. 99% of anyone who puts those tips into practice would lose weight and get healthy.

    I eat a lot of food (2,000+ cals), never go hungry, and have been able to maintain a BMI of 21 for a long time.

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  44. Also, chateau person:you never answered my question:

    Do you really go around putting fatties on blast? How do you do it? What is the reaction?

    Other fat hating men, do you do this also?

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  45. Dream Puppy, weight is a big issue for a few reasons. I think the woman has a right to express her feelings on fat people. It’s just that if I had a low opinion on socially dependent people, I wouldn’t post that as a writer for a magazine, unless it was a magazine for independent thinkers or at least intellectuals.

    That’s something I’d post on my personal blog. If that’s how I feel, I don’t want to taint the reputation of my employer, or put them in a position of having to choose between me and their readers. It’s just not a very smart thing to do.

    There may still be an uproar about it, but it would be on my own site where I could control who gets to comment or not.

    Then there’s the possibility that her opinion may change if counting calories doesn’t work out for her in the long run, or if she suffers a self inflicted sports injury or car accident or something, or hey, her botox or facelift goes wrong, and she becomes herself, disgusting to look at.

    I don’t get joy from looking at burn victims, whether their injuries were self inflicted or not, but I’m not going to taunt them for it. If I did, I’d expect burn victims and other facially disfigured people to have something bad to say about it.

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  46. Obese, overweight, is about the storage, as fat, of your excess of consumption, over your metabolism, of food. Eating is a choice, and choices are made out of free will and self-discipline.

    The obesity activists and apologists want to ignore the idea of self-control, by turning such into disease and epidemic, thereby socializing the problem as one to be borne by all. By making obesity, overeating and the overweight a socio-cultural problem, no one individual is at fault, but we are all responsible.

    The concept of fat acceptance is meant to drive out of the culture the idea of shame–a universal, and dare say, moral, motive for taking action or forebearance. All this is part of a larger project to incorporate the ideas of “do your own thing” and “if it feels good, do it” into the culture at large.

    No shame, no self-discipline, no-self-control, no cultural imperatives–only the nanny state left to dictate restraint upon behavior. Wonderful. I see the drain swirling as Western civilization goes down…

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  47. Anonymous says, “Fat people are disgusting. It isn’t a disease, it’s entirely within their control, they just don’t want to do anything about it.”

    So you’re saying that all fat people are independent thinkers somehow more able than others to resist pressure to be thin?

    [Editor: Nice try non sequiturgirl, but no dice. Anon was saying fat people have less self-discipline to resist the urge to stuff their gargantuan maws.]

    Sweet.

    [There’s your problem right there.]

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  48. @Nicole

    I’m sure it’s evident to everyone that you are getting more than enough share of the pie.

    Your arguments are quite adorable, do you suggest everyone in the army to weigh 300 pounds? So they can survive being hit by a RPG? Since clearly you think carrying extra weight pads you from being hurt more than normal people.

    That said, I’m interested to know how a fatty makes “love” how does it work exactly? Do you move your FUPA out of the way and do strictly missionary?

    @R

    True, it’s survival of the fittest. Let the fatties die off from diabetes and heart diseases. I’ll single handy out breed all of them.

    Funny how the prototype sex bots aren’t fat. If being fat was beautiful wouldn’t men seek a fat robot?

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  49. Who was it who said, “There’s nothing more pathetic than a fat chick with Hot Chick Attitude”?

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  50. @Nicole

    no they are lazier

    and now the “pressure to be thin” is nonexistant, in fact the outpouring of support for stating that fat is phat would indicate the exact opposite

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  51. There used to be pressure on people to be thin, and this worked to shame some potential whales to stay in shape instead.

    Now, with all the bullshit fat acceptance rubbish floating around, of which this particular article is a prime example – note that the author was forced to recant her perfectly valid view, one that in times past would not even need to have been articulated as it would have been commonly understood by society at large – there is no shame, and no real pressure to be thin.

    So the potential whales eat as much as they can stuff into their mouths, do as little exercise as they can, and tune into the endless ‘fat is beautiful’ crap spouted in the media.

    That isn’t being an independent thinker, its a complete lack of will and character.

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  52. Quoting from Aunt Haley’s post:

    Another Jezebel blogger wrote a rant on the Marie Claire article:

    If You’re Fat-Phobic, You’re Also an Ignorant, Bigoted Idiot

    “If you think that watching a fat person walk across the room is “gross,” and if you think not allowing readers to comment on a woman’s weight is “glorifying” obesity, you are a bigot. You are treating a group — people who weigh more than “normal” (whatever that is) — with hatred and intolerance.”

    Didn’t “they” ban smoking on TV and in the movies because “they” didn’t want such an unhealthy thing to be seen as normal? Isn’t smoking banned in many places because other people find it gross and disgusting, even though smokers themselves were simply victims of the evil corporates peddling their addictive products?
    Wouldn’t this mean that the anti-smoking lobby is a bunch of ignorant, bigoted idiots?

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  53. @The King “Since clearly you think carrying extra weight pads you from being hurt more than normal people.”

    If you want protection from injury lift weights. Muscles protect the bones and internal organs. Emergency doctors have stated that the more muscular someone is, the better they fare in a car crash.

    Ok guys? So go get beefed thanks 🙂

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  54. “people who weigh more than “normal” (whatever that is)”

    ah yes, what is normal anyway? completely arbitrary…normalcy- just a social construct.

    :::jumps out window, slits throat on way down::::

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  55. “to go deeper, does the left have to apply the “criticizing it only makes it worse” viewpoint to everything? “Oh no, you told the truth about obese people, you’re making them worse!!!” “Oh no, you told the truth about Muslims, you’ll only make them bomb us more!””

    The various factions of the left don’t seek truth. They seek power. All statements they make are for this purpose. Thus, when rational people scrutinize these statements for truth-value they find there to be little. These rational people then attempt to explain this to the liberals, thinking that they too are seeking truth, only to be rebuffed harshly, much to their surprise.

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  56. Editor says, “Editor: Nice try non sequiturgirl, but no dice. Anon was saying fat people have less self-discipline to resist the urge to stuff their gargantuan maws.”

    He said, “Fat people are disgusting. It isn’t a disease, it’s entirely within their control, they just don’t want to do anything about it”

    It’s entirely under their control. They don’t want to do anything about it.

    Even you’ve used terms like “self inflicted”.

    So, worst case, these people are self mutilators. Why are they mutilating themselves?

    Can they control whether or not they are mutilating themselves?

    Have you ever counselled a self mutilator?

    Can other types of self mutilators, cutters, pickers, and the like, easily use their “self discipline” to stop?

    I’m not asking anyone to like fat people. I’m not even asking anyone to stop picking on fat people.

    I am only asking people to think.

    …though this seems to be asking too much of people nowadays, for the same reason so many are fat.

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  57. Nicole, I want to be with you, I really do, because losing weight is no fun, but come on. The vast majority of heavy people do know how to get healthier/smaller. Maybe they could not easily achieve a BMI under 20, but even using popular eating advice they could have healthy BMIs.

    And I say this as someone who lives off grains and alcohol and still managed, thanks to the shaming of this website (f*you), to give up my daily afternoon cookie delight to regain my college size.

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  58. It’s good to have a few fat people around. You never know when you might be faced with the trolley problem.

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  59. Fucking ‘progressives’. I can’t stand them, with their linear view of history toward some utopia where there are no social or cultural standards.

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  60. I used to be scrawny growing up, I used to be fat (225 lb @5’8 and no muscle), now I’m 185 with a lot of visible muscle and I continue to work on and challenge myself every day by lifting heavy weights, running up and down mountains and other things.

    It’s pretty obvious the vast majority of fat people confabulate to justify their current physical state, and that they are also 100% responsible for their physical condition. They deny it because that feels better than taking personal responsibility.

    However the answer isn’t going to be in shaming or namecalling or any kind of highly emotional stabs directed at these people. Not because that’s ‘mean’, but because it won’t work – there are too many of them- in all likelihood it will have the opposite effect. Fat people will only react to shaming by digging their heels in further, and I believe all of these ‘coalitions’ to normalize fatness are in large part a defensive reaction to this ostracism.

    You can’t ostracize these people, because there are enough of them that they band together to wallow in their fatness. They find a group that reframes whatever problem they have as ‘normal.’

    Instead we should rail against fatness from a pragmatic perspective.

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  61. Mystery…

    edited out into oblivion.

    McDonald’s must be a new sponsor here

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  62. I am glad that I do not live in America. In Europe there are only 8 million overweight or obese women in the 18-29 bracket, so I do not see many fatties in the age worth looking at.

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  63. Overall Italy has the best figures.

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  64. Fatties sure are a sensitive bunch. If they would quit crying on their Oreos, they could look in the mirror and get disgusted.

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  65. on October 28, 2010 at 6:14 pm Rant Casey - Brazil

    Bruno

    Roissy, any wonders about why it is in Brazil that the most beautiful women in the world are found?

    Sexually speaking, this place is wonderful.

    You wish, Bruno.

    That good old meme that “brazil has the prettiest of girls” is some sort of “nationalist self promotion” that brazilian women keep telling, and some men love to parrot.

    There is a lot of obesity already in Brazil. We are close to Germany in this matter.

    In general, there is a couple pretty brazilian girls, and the rest is just ugly chicks with epic asses. The brazilian obsession with asses is no more than consolation prize.

    Provided that a brazilian man has choices, what is really his first pick? Answer: brazilian girls of European heritage, and not the horse faced, big assed girls that are glorified in here (mostly by women themselves and men without acess to the disposable european cuties).

    But brazilian girls have more serious problems:

    – too slutty;
    – sexually lazy and pruddish;
    – dumb as fuck;
    – vulgar;
    – charmless over exposure of theyr bodies.

    The prototypical brazilian woman is a girl with an ugly face, big ass, small breasts, who dresses and acts slutty, in a tasteless fashion, and is letargic in bed.

    Its a pain to run game in brazilian girls.

    First, because you just cant be too clever: they are too dumb, aimless and slow minded.

    Second, its a disapointment: you quickly find out that caveman game would be more than enough.

    The bright side of brazilian women is that they are easy, feminine, and affectionate (and clingy too, wich is the downside).

    The southern ones are a little less slutty in theyr dress and manners, but are two times more provincian.

    Tyring to romance a brazilian woman is the same as lecturing your dog. Unless you are content with merely fucking them, you’ll always have the feeling that they lack something. A little bit of soul, perhaps.

    I love brazilian girls, but I can’t stand them. Thats why I have so many hobbies.

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  66. Exercise doesn’t help lose weight, it is all about nutrition. I know tons of people who work out, eat carbs and are fat as pigs. The answer to fat and cancer, and all the other illnesses of civilization (including diabetes) is, lay off the carbs. Source: Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes

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  67. Telluride
    Exercise doesn’t help lose weight, it is all about nutrition.

    Or possibly a virus.

    http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/09September/Pages/can-virus-cause-obesity-by-body-fat-attack.aspx

    Obesity might be contagious. Fat people should be quarantined… you know, to be on the safe side, at least until this can be sorted out.

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  68. I wonder if this woman followed the Paleo diet? Ooops…smoking, drinking, and tons of chocolate! Guess not.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment

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  69. damn u goin in but i didnt know my weight what is 280 pounds bothers girls so much since im 5 11 feet i thought they care less about looks i jus get mad lazy tho lmao altho im sick of gettin made fun of daily cant lie about dat dawga

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  70. Al says, “Nicole, I want to be with you, I really do, because losing weight is no fun,”

    It is when you know how.

    When you eat properly (which is not the same as eating less) you can’t help but move, and you automatically consume fewer calories because you are getting the nutrition you need.

    “but come on. The vast majority of heavy people do know how to get healthier/smaller.”

    Yeah, the “not fun” way that doesn’t last.

    “Maybe they could not easily achieve a BMI under 20, but even using popular eating advice they could have healthy BMIs.”

    A “healthy” BMI means jack when your bones are creaking, your hair is falling out, you’re hypoglycemic, and you’re passing out and having seizures.

    “And I say this as someone who lives off grains and alcohol and still managed, thanks to the shaming of this website (f*you), to give up my daily afternoon cookie delight to regain my college size.”

    I am losing weight, and I still get to eat cookies.

    I use real butter and oat flour in them.

    You should try it.

    If more fat people knew what I learned when I pushed away from the fable, the only fat people that would be left in 10 years would be elderly or wheelchair bound, and even they would just be chubby.

    Still, as you can see from the comments here, doing one’s best, even when one is doing it effectively, is not good enough.

    This is the point I’m trying to make. Everyone is welcome to their disgust, but please don’t try to con anyone into thinking you give a crap about obesity for more than your own aesthetic comfort.

    These guys don’t care whether or not a woman is healthy, really…just that she looks good. What looks good is generally what’s healthy, but if there was a way to fake it, they would be okay with that because the look is all they care about.

    In a sense, it’s all they should care about, and they should not apologize for this. It’s us women who need to make sure we’re not getting conned, since it’s our appearance that is important.

    However, because of the beta-ish backwards rationalizing, men get involved in debates that don’t make any damned sense.

    It’s a disease and they’re defective one minute. They’re in full control and choose to be fat, the next minute. None of these guys can really decide what the fat comes from. They just know they don’t like it.

    They have a right not to like it. Size differential is very important in perceiving and gauging a woman’s level of femininity. It’s that way for damned near every mammal except hyenas. No problem.

    I just wish they would think about what they’re saying, and how nonsensical it is.

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  71. Sorry but life would not be fun without obese people. I watch this clip on a monthly basis.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6am-8xhGT0

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  72. @Nicole

    Again the same pathetic argument that if you aren’t fat, you look like an anorexic coke abusing runaway model from Europe. Those are two extremes, most guys are not attracted to extremes in weight. Is is that hard for your stupid little brain to process it? Or is all the junk food getting in the way?

    A healthy “normal” weight for women are 105-135 lbs, 3 measurements being 32-25, 26-29, 32-35, obviously depending on height, ethnicity and frame the ideal changes slightly but not much. Anything that doesn’t fit is not normal and considered too skinny or fat. Also the average in the USA has been increasing since there are 600 lbs whales that look like you in Texas.

    Let me know when Askmen’s top 100 women includes a fatty over 150 lbs. The list is compiled through a vote of the readers, hence shows the preference of most normal/average men.

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  73. I agree with Roissy’s initial post, though I have to say that the link between the cancer rates and obesity rates in this country are most likely related.

    The common bond between the two? Sugar.

    Glucose, fructose, sucrose, HFCS, you name it. Carbs kill. Cancer feeds off sugar, and fat cells store fat in it’s presence.

    For a stellar overview of the subject read “Good Calories, Bad Calories” by Gary Taubes.

    There are idiots on both sides of the argument. The health nuts with their “low fat, high fiber, hearthealthywholegrain” approach, and the fat people who say “I’m fat I can’t help it.”

    Look at cultures who eat diets high in saturated fat, low in carbs, and no industrial processing. Perfectly formed bodies, no chronic disease (cancer, arthritis, Chron’s, etc. etc.).

    It’s pretty easy to see that the real problem is sugar.

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  74. The_King, I can’t figure out what you’re trying to say with all the bleating.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I’ll be waiting for the post about how cutters are disgusting and should be thrown in front of busses, and how beauticians who get lung cancer deserve to be jumped on in a cosmetologist rodeo.

    Waiting…but not holding my breath.

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  75. This blog never fails to brighten up my otherwise shitty ass day. I work with a fucking blue whale and whenever food is brought into the office she devours that shit like there’s no tomorrow. But her weight problem has to do with her “thyroid condition”, obviously.

    Roissy, keep doing what you’re doing. This is great.

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  76. @King “32-25, 26-29, 32-35″

    Those measurements seem a little off. Chest and hips should be a bit more 33-37″ and waist a bit less 23-28”.

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  77. Once, in a moment of weakness, I answered a personals ad for a booty call from an overweight girl. She seemed OK on the phone, and the photos made her look not incredibly large, so I figured, WTF, you only live once: fucking a fatty should be done once in a lifetime. When she showed up, she was positively huge; 200+. Not, I suppose, earth shatteringly morbid obese, and no FUPA was in evidence, and she didn’t even have appreciable belly overhang, but for me, that’s titanic. She was a nice enough girl, so I bought her a drink anyway, and considered whether or not I could go through with this. She was affable company, but … after a while I noticed a horrible stench of rotten seafood. I thought it was something they were serving at the bar, but … the bar wasn’t serving seafood. I nearly lost my lunch -I had heard of vagina stench before, but had honestly never encountered anything where you could smell a woman’s rotting hoo-ha from across the table. I left with my self esteem intact and a good story as to why you shouldn’t even think about porking a heiffer.

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  78. Lupo, you’re a liar.

    You’d never even consider shagging an even moderately overweight woman.

    You’re just making things up. A fishy smell isn’t caused by overweightness, but by a woman infected with trichomoniasis’ poon coming into contact with semen.

    So either you were lying before, and you actually shagged her, or you’re lying now.

    Which is it?

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  79. …and if you did shag her, you might want to get tested. It’ll take a swab, so brace yourself. A man can carry it around for years and not know it.

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  80. You can be sure that most of those piling on the ‘don’t make fun of the fat girl’ bandwagon are liberals. Liberalism is all about posturing, about pretending in a very vocal manner that you don’t have the same human reactions that everyone else does (like feeling nervous when a Muslim in Mideastern garb gets on an airplane next to you). It is standing on your head, and telling the world it is upside down. Yes, losing weight with low-carb is easy, but the PC police have to supress that message too, because only the ruling class will get to eat meat in the world they have designed for us.

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  81. Fat chicks DO smell because bacteria forms when air can’t get to “certain” areas (ie their fat thunder thighs that rub together, and their belotch (belly and crotch become one). It doesn’t matter how clean they are, once the sweat begins, and no air is making it into those crevices you will have a stench from the bacteria that forms. Why do you think we need deodorant? Same concept.

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  82. knepper, you know for goddamn sure that if a lib politician was confronted with a obese GOP chick, or whatever, they’d smack her down with fat jokes like it was the coolest thing ever to do.

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  83. Meet the reincarnation of Moses. Michael Fumento used to be quite the l’enfant terrible with the masterpiece “the myth of heterosexual aids” and “the fat of the land”. the fat of the land is a scorching of the fat pride movement. “the myth of heterosexual aids” wins kodos for the most audacious (and 20 years later— accurate) books of modern times.

    fumento should be heralded as a hero and an ally. he writes occasionally for national review. i have spoken to him on occasion.

    http://fumento.com/books/fatland.html

    Personally, I feel his work in support of breast implants alone deserves his name memorialized for the ages. Speak the name “fumento” with august reverence. His works make our strippers possible.

    http://fumento.com/implant/breast.html

    Please highlight his works.

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  84. Knepper gets it. I’m glad someone does.

    They don’t care for the mental or actual health of fat women any more than you guys do. They’re tools of shady mechanics who break something so you have to come to them to get it fixed…and everything they propose, from denial, to high fiber low fat, to calorie counting, to gastric bypass, will screw them. The shady mechanics will make money, while the stupid people on both sides will debate nonsense.

    I’d like the anti fat crowd to be less nonsensical. If you’re debating on the same level that they are, you will continue to lose.

    Whether or not there’s high pressure to be slim now, there certainly was until recently. How did you lose your hand? Why did you lose it?

    Think, people.

    You’re treating a problem of self mutilation at worst, vitamin deficiencies at best, as if it was like deciding whether to wear a blue shirt or a green shirt that day.

    Go try shaming a cutter into not cutting. Do you think you have a monopoly on shaming? Do you not realize that it was feminists who started the shaming tactics with regards to weight, and that now they’re trying to undo decades of denigrating normal and overweight women as “breeders”? Did you not notice the interim period in the 80’s and 90’s when it moved from “breeders” to “oppressed victims”?

    Did you miss the commercials hawking therapists (I want to spit when saying that word in reference to these quacks) who claimed that women were fat because they were sexually abused as children? All the claims of repressed memories of things that, for the most part, never happened?

    Did you not notice how many who were actually sexually abused stood up to say they felt slapped in the face and further stigmatized by that?

    Did you not notice how the transition went from it being men’s fault that women were fat because of making them have babies and raise them, to it being men’s fault women get anorexia because they want them sickly thin, to it being men’s fault women were fat because of sexual abuse, and now it’s men’s fault women are fat because you’re cruelly enforcing an unrealistic standard?

    …and what do the idiots do?

    Supply the other idiots with cannon fodder.

    Wonderful.

    Please, for the love of the waistlines of America, those of you out there who actually want to see more slim women, talk some damned sense. Don’t be as stupid as your opponents.

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  85. S, by that logic, chicks with big boobs stink too.

    A person who bathes regularly doesn’t stink.

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  86. Stretchmarks, Cellulite, Peterbellies-that-stick-out-further-than-asses, tits that sag down to the waist, jowls, fat-fingers, rolls, quadruple-chins, and the ever-present-stench.

    It really is sad to witness this peculiar epidemic take shape (puns chase me).

    A farmer feeds cows corn and grain to fatten them up for slaughter. Our republic is fed corn, grain, and sugar. It really wouldn’t be suprising to a veterenarian to see a farmer’s cows come in huge one year if the farmer made our modern diet available to the cows. Their bellies would probably drag the ground. Mooooooowwwww.

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  87. Z, thank you for posting a good example of constructive fat shaming.

    People should be shamed away from the grain heavy diet because it is making them fat and slow.

    If you’re going to use shame at all, use it right.

    If someone had said this to me 15 years ago, I wouldn’t be fat. We’ve have argued for awhile, during which I would have quoted a variety of doctors and dieticians, and he would have verbally smacked me down with something like, “Was your grandmother fat at your age?”

    Then I would have shut up and called my grandmother.

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  88. Pendulous loaves of flesh that pass the VCR test (think an amped up version of the pencil test) probably do emit and order by the end of the day. Mositure + Lack of Oxygen = Smell.

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  89. *Moisture, dammit.

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  90. whoaa…so much hatred for fat people but have you guys ever thought how fat people actually feel ?. Contrary to what you think, no fat person likes to be fat, and certainly don’t enjoy being fat.

    As a fat person myself, i can tell that it is F*CKING hard to lose the fat, and exercising and lifting weights is NOT possible or medically Okay for every FAT person. Besides some of us have bad genes which no matter how less we eat, it contributes to obesity.

    We know it make us look ugly and its saddening but when i tell you its hard to lose it, believe me. You just have to think of us fat people as humans too and obesity is a disease!, its not what we choose for ourselves.

    Why won’t the media focus on more fucking bigger problems than obesity and educating poeple on subjects like STDs and shit, thats the main problem i think we have right now as more than half the population has herpes. And surprise herpes is contagious and kills, obesity doesn’t.

    PS: if somebody has a magic pill or formula that would magically remove all my fat without having to exercise (i got a medical condition that doesn’t allow me to exercise) in say as long as 1 year, please let me know. I would love to try it cause i am sick of being fat too. But its something i can’t help, its fcking bad genes.

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  91. Tip of the day: Don’t take weight-loss advice from an obese woman.

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  92. Pray tell, what is your “medical condition”?

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  93. Its disgraceful to see people defending a negative trait that’s either self inflicted or (rarely) naturally occurring. Choosing to be undesirable and unhealthy comes at the cost of your SMV – your “thyroid problem” deserves no more sympathy than my big nose for making me ugly. Obesity is simply an undesirable trait and defending poor lifestyle choices that lead to it is just pathetic.

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  94. A good way to spot progresso-tard denialist groupthink from a mile away is to scan for some variation on the phrase, “What’s worrisome is that someone could think this in 2010.”

    Translation: “I thought our thought police had thoroughly brainwashed everyone and that all were afraid to speak the truth! Another round of lobotomies is clearly in order.”

    Leftists think that all of humans in all societies throughout all human history were miserable and brainwashed, and that the current generation — and maybe the one just before it — are the smartest, most enlightened people on earth, who finally figured everything out, where humanity was too stupid to do so before.

    Not to worry in the long run though, feminists and fat-apologists: human nature will always come out on top.

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  95. The thing about nutrition is that there’s so much mangled information and acculturation out there, the average person needs to swim through endless rubbish.

    My estimate is that 95 per cent of having a trim waist is about nutrition. Exercise will give you strength, and bulk, but not burn off your waistline.

    I’m amazed that governments don’t say “eat simply, eat whole, unprocessed foods as much as possible and your weight will melt off.”

    What are processed foods? Well, bread, pasta, grains and the rest of all that crap.

    Three comments about the comments section

    One is that people have normalized obesity within 20 years (which was when the food pyramid came in, by the way). Going through your own family photo albums should show you the evidence before your eyes. When did this mysterious fat gene people claim makes them heavy suddenly evolve?

    (I like the way several of them claim that BMI is meaningless because it doesn’t apply to bodybuilders. Well, bodybuilders are an edge case and their particular situation has damn all to do with you. By the way, there are several BMI ratios for athletes, children, adolescents, and even people in wheelchairs because they have atrophied legs.)

    Secondly, that the author was simply not allowed to have her opinion and anyone else was not allowed to say “You’ve made poor choices and your choices are reflected in how you look. How you look makes a statement and I get to react to that statement.”

    The shrill histrionics in the comments section to the Marie Claire posting are from a planet where logic simply isn’t employed. There is no ethical compact for me to like you, find you sexually attractive or anything else. Appearances count. — Deal with it. This is why you put on a suit and tie when going to the bank to beg for money.

    Finally, the claim that the author is a bigot makes no sense. Obesity is not an immutable characteristic.

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  96. There are even better things in universities here in Brazil. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9SX-rVaJIM

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  97. A Fattie, it’s very simple and quite easy. If it wasn’t food 300 years ago, it’s not food now. Don’t eat it.

    Get tests for vitamin deficiencies and allergies from your doctor. B-12, D-3, and Iron are common. You may also need to supplement with cod liver oil/omega 3.

    Call your parents, grandparents, and other old relatives, and find out how they ate when they had a choice. Eat like that. If you know what kind of work they did, when you have the energy, move like that.

    I don’t know what health problem you have that prevents exercise, but some of it might be cured by eating properly.

    …and don’t think in terms of a year. Think in terms of years. It may take at least the first couple of years to undo the damage to your organs and get your appetite to balance.

    Humans are apes. In a natural situation, we don’t eat more than we need to. Trust your body in that. There isn’t a shortcut for this.

    It’s pretty simple once you get going, but the transition might be confusing at first. You can get started by looking at the information at

    http://www.westonaprice.org

    Good luck 🙂

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  98. I’d like to analyze/translate the post by “A Fattie huh” to show something:

    paragraph 1: “think about how we actually feel” – misdirection (your feelings are not the subject matter).

    paragraph 2: “it’s hard to lose fat, some people can’t do it for whatever reasons”- projecting theoretical limitations onto yours.

    paragraph 3: “it’s really hard, we are still people” – another kind of misdirection (nobody is denying you’re a person).

    paragraph 4: “there are bigger problems than obesity” – yet another kind of misdirection (we’re talking about obesity not other things).

    paragraph 5: “I would love a magic pill that would make me thin, bad genes again” – so you only want to lose weight if it’s easy.

    So, every bit of this response is a a confabulation about why it’s not possible to lose weight or misdirection attempt in some way.

    You know what I learned growing up? That you take personal responsibility for everything that happens to you in your life. That some people have it easy in life and some people have it hard and if you have it hard, you just have to work harder than everyone else to get to the same spot. You concern yourself with results, not irrelevant outside elements like fairness or easyness or convenience.

    You do not actually want to be non-obese, you want to be fat and make excuses for why you don’t want to struggle to get rid of your obesity.

    You deliberately make up a set of conditions under which you would actually lose weight that are so fantastical (magic pill) in order to convince yourself that you can’t lose weight under any other circumstances.

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  99. Tinderbox, I wouldn’t take weight loss advice from someone who’d never had to lose a substantial amount of weight.

    Listening to people who’d never been fat is what had me on low fat and grains, and gradually turning into a stiff jointed zombie.

    Finding people who’d been there and found a real solution helped me.

    By the same, for the dark side stuff, I had to go to the people who are actually model and ripped to shreds bodybuilder thin.

    People overly invested in the mainstream lie.

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  100. Heard about a study saying that the same regions of the brain are lit up when we see fat people as when we see those disfigured by disease. Theory is that those who are fat are thought of by the primitive part of the brain as if they have a contagious disease.

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  101. A.S. actually, there are a few “magic pills” if she can get her doctor to prescribe them, but I don’t know what her health problems are.

    There’s a difference between working hard and working efficiently. It’s not hard to lose weight. It just takes time to do it naturally, and is risky to do it with drugs or surgery.

    I’m not a hypocrite. Each individual has to decide which way they want to go. I chose natural, but if someone else wants to get on Concerta, that’s their business.

    It’s not a moral issue for me. It’s just a cost/benefit thing.

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  102. I have some medical conditions (details of which I won’t go into here) which largely preclude me from any serious aerobic exercise. I also have a sedentary office job. I keep my weight under control by eating only two small meals a day, and yes, that means I go hungry much of the time.

    It may be though that I have it easier controlling my hunger, what with being a man ‘n all:

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090121211340.htm

    … I guess this is the old “women have an emotional relationship with food” thing…

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  103. Rarfy, this is exactly why nobody needs to justify their disgust. It’s just that if they’re going to take on the issue of solutions, this should be done intelligently.

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  104. You should respond on the Marie Claire post, if you haven’t already. She apparently has apologized in an update to the article. Needs some roissian support. The comments to her article are absurd. She is speaking her mind and what she feels about. Obesity is a problem. A huge problem (no pun intended.). It reminds me of Juan Williams firing…someone who actually responds candidly, honestly in a public forum.

    Do we really want to be subjected to callous unchallenging opinions in our magazines and in every article we read?

    The sheer volume of comments to this post make this author in demand! She should write another analyzing the response to her article and try to tap into why the population is so damn sensitive about this problem. The comments point to the fact that its a REAL problem.

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  105. A Fattie huh
    whoaa…so much hatred for fat people but have you guys ever thought how fat people actually feel ?. Contrary to what you think, no fat person likes to be fat, and certainly don’t enjoy being fat.

    As a fat person myself, i can tell that it is F*CKING hard to lose the fat, and exercising and lifting weights is NOT possible or medically Okay for every FAT person. Besides some of us have bad genes which no matter how less we eat, it contributes to obesity.

    We know it make us look ugly and its saddening but when i tell you its hard to lose it, believe me. You just have to think of us fat people as humans too and obesity is a disease!, its not what we choose for ourselves.

    Why won’t the media focus on more fucking bigger problems than obesity and educating poeple on subjects like STDs and shit, thats the main problem i think we have right now as more than half the population has herpes. And surprise herpes is contagious and kills, obesity doesn’t.

    PS: if somebody has a magic pill or formula that would magically remove all my fat without having to exercise (i got a medical condition that doesn’t allow me to exercise) in say as long as 1 year, please let me know. I would love to try it cause i am sick of being fat too. But its something i can’t help, its fcking bad genes.

    This is fattie-speak for “I’m a lazy slob who isn’t willing to change my diet. I prefer to maintain my self-delusion and pretty lies than stare at the bright, naked truth.”

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  106. @Roissy:

    Thanks for the post, it’s tragic to see growing popular acceptance of obesity. Being overweight is one thing, but things have gone way too far with shows such as “Mike and Molly” and “Huge” promoting the acceptance of obesity.

    @Nicole

    Nicole is right: listen to people who have been through what you’re going through.

    I speak as a former fat guy (started at 6’0, 210 lbs, down to 180) who, thanks to a bodybuilding-obsessed friend, was convinced to give up daily junk food and soda, start a gym routine, and carefully count every gram of protein I get.

    And from doing my research: a lot of bodybuilding articles are written by people who were formerly skinny. They tell you to do ridiculous things like eat 2g/lb of protein, avoid any cardio, and consume mass gainer solutions. If I followed that advice I would be in terrible shape, so I look for the articles written by endomorphs such as myself.

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  107. I really don’t understand the point of Roissy. If everything he says is so self evident and commonsensical to men why go on and on ad nauseum about it? We get it: you think women might as well commit suicide if they are not young and hot. None of this is newsworthy.

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  108. Please excuse my spelling mistakes. I can only stomach visiting this site when a I’m a bit tipsy.

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  109. I think that the disgust is because huge tires of fat reveal:

    -Poor impulse control.
    -Lack of excersice and a diet.
    -Low self steem.
    -Emotional problems.
    -Above all, is that those people CHOOSE to be that way, they choose to be a blight upon the sight and to occupy the space of 2-3 people of regular size. Is extremely selfish. And IS NOT a disease, just like no addiction(as overused is that word these days) is a choice. And a consequence of that choice is that people find you repulsive. Deal with it.

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  110. >justme

    How are YOU doing, sweetheart?

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  111. Its sad that nowadays women have to base their entire worth as human beings on whether they can make a man “hard” (please excuse the vulgarity).

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  112. Nicole,

    I honestly think food manufacturers process food in ways that they hope will be addictive. Some of the really large people we see in my opinion are probably “addicted” to certain processed foods chemically for the mood-boosting effects. Im almost certain Coca-Cola is made with this effect in mind. 12 spoonfulls of sugar in a can of coke………

    I cant recommend that video on coca-cola enough. One doesn’t have to agree with the people who made that video about “other things” they may espouse, but they pretty much nail the coca-cola bottliing company and their methods in that video. I imagine other processed food manufacturers pull similar stunts.

    ———————————————————————

    A compliment for Citizen Renegade:

    Your twitter updates are very informative. That low-carb article made even my jaded eyes pupil’s dialate. Will be making a more concerted dietary effort based on that information. Thanks

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  113. Its sad that nowadays women have to base their entire worth as human beings on whether they can make a man “hard” (please excuse the vulgarity).

    But they don’t! Didn’t you get the memo? Women base their entire worth as human beings on their credentials they attain from educational institutions, their careers, and their financial success that allows them to collect designer handbags and shoes, as well as maintain a collection of cats….

    ..I mean, look at Maureen Dowd! She can no longer make a man hard (she’s hit the wall!), and she’s a successful career woman!

    You too can be as happy and fulfilled as her, and you have no need to worry about making men hard!

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  114. If You’re Fat-Phobic, You’re Also an Ignorant, Bigoted Idiot
    “If you think that watching a fat person walk across the room is “gross,” and if you think not allowing readers to comment on a woman’s weight is “glorifying” obesity, you are a bigot. You are treating a group — people who weigh more than “normal” (whatever that is) — with hatred and intolerance.”

    Then I’m a bigot and I’m not ashamed of it.

    Fat people deserve to be mocked, derided, and shunned. At every possible opportunity, and with complete impunity.

    We need fat farms, Fat Parasite of the Week shaming ads, Fat Taxes, and companies should be able to fire people for being obese, or demand exercise.

    It’s revolting, disgusting, disturbing, pathetic. There’s nothing at all “acceptable” about it. It’s repulsive.

    I knew a fat girl: She was slightly chubby in highschool, and blimped out (boyfriendless after one bad relationship). She was single for a decade. She used to get upset when one of her female friends told another that she was looking good, losing weight, or whatever – she was hugely sensitive to any comment about beauty, looks, or weight.
    And yet: She ate 3x what I did. I’m 5’10” 180 lbs and work out, but she ate much more than me, and she was 5’5″, female and never exercised. Her freezer was filled with instant pizzas (one finished a night – easily), ice cream, and processed food. I wouldn’t eat *anything* in her house. It was all garbage.

    When her close friends pointed this out, she got upset – she was depressed, it was her comfort food, you don’t understand, I love oreos, etc. A tub of ice cream a night was her comfort food.

    But no – It was her Genes, or her Glands. Fuck off. She was gross. Everything about it was contemptible and pathetic. It made people sick to see her.

    We all think this, unless we’re fat and worry that other people are thinking this, which they are. The media can try to shame us but it’s a natural reaction. Fat=Disgusting. There’s nothing the media can do about this.

    Fat people will come up with every possible excuse. They’re one big rationalization.

    Whine whine whine genes genes genes disorder depression whine whine whine and extra fries please.

    You’re fat, disgusting and repulsive.

    WE DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT YOUR SELF-LOATHING DISRESPECT OF YOURSELF.

    “Fat Acceptance”:

    I accept that you’re fat. But I still think:

    – You’re ugly
    – You disgust me with your lack of self-control
    – You’re fucking ugly
    – Your lifestyle should be illegal. You fat disgusting blimp.

    It makes every trip to Walmart one of those horrifying ordeals known only when Living In America.

    At least, in Asia, people think these Fat Parasites should crawl off somewhere and die and they’re not afraid to show it.

    At least there, the women laugh and mock fat women. At last there, men have to make some pretense to not overeat.

    At least there, the fat ones have the good sense to know that their SMV is less than zero and that they’re objects of pity and scorn.

    We need more of that here. Not “Fat Acceptance”.

    No remorse.

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  115. Obesity is abhorrent and unhealthy in either sex [period] and anyone trying to convince themselves or anyone else otherwise is not being intellectually honest. Fat (especially obesity) represents lack of self control, sloth and laziness and men who present themselves as blubbery lard-asses are not sexy or attractive with rolls of fat and the stench of smegma either.

    Sure, an obese guy probably lusts for a thin unattainable woman just as much as an obese woman pines for a thin unattainable man (yeah, there are “chubby chasers” but that’s just creepy as hell). Same goes for ugly people always wanting a handsome/pretty mate when they know damned well they are too hideous to catch a hottie (unless they are famous or rich or both, but, look at Heidi Klum’s children with SEAL…f-cking ugly, even her beauty couldn’t save those kids from the fug).

    Give the ugly, moronic, mouth-breathing obese people the sexbots for free and keep them out of the g-damned gene pool.

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  116. Dave………LOL. So true about Dowd.

    I bet Maureen was a real hottie in her day too. She’s got a quick wit on her too, much smarter than average. She’s been butthexed to the point of being a cliche-spouting zombie on certain issues though. The Crimethink buttplug that stops all blasphemous thought between her ears must be made out of the strongest forged blue-twisted-steel.

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  117. Nicole is doing a great job demonstrating the power of the female rationalization hamster. Just give the poor guy a break is all I ask.

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  118. I honestly think food manufacturers process food in ways that they hope will be addictive.

    Hope? They know damn well their processed garbage is addictive!

    MSG, HFCS, and most foods made with corn and wheat and even plain ole sugar is addictive as hell.

    There’s a reason why fat people can’t help themselves and eat so much food.

    They’ve eaten so many carbohydrates over the course of time, they’ve developed insulin resistance.

    Fat asses stuffing their faces are in fact eating as much as they need to keep their cells fueled.

    When you develop insulin resistance, your body needs to produce far more insulin than a normal person would. This elevated insulin levels commands your body to store calories as fat as soon as you digetst it. So as soon as fat people with screwed up metabolisms eat carbs, their elevated insulin levels store it quickly as more fat..leaving them without enough fuel on a cellular level, which is why the get hungry again so quickly. So theyeat more.

    In other words, they’re not getting fat because they’re eating more; they’re eating more because they’re getting fat.

    In simpler terms, if you eat too many carbs and processed foods, your body goes into fat storage mode. Every time you eat, your body stores it as fat quickly, leaving you hungry again in a short period of time.

    If you limit your carbs and start eating fats and proteins, your body no longer produces all that elevated levels of insulin, and your body gets used to burning FAT for fuel, not sugars (what ALL carbs converts to when digested), when your body uses up the energy from the low/non-carb foods, than it will start to burn your fat stores.

    This is why eating a high-fat/high protein/low-carb diet makes you lose weight relatively quickly.

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  119. Dave: Your sarcasm doesn’t help 🙂 but I think I understand the rift between the sexes anyway. Maybe that is the point of this site. Take care…

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  120. Nicole makes the argument that she doesn’t want to drive fat people in search of a silver bullet into the arms of a con-artist dieting guru.

    Better to push them toward a sliver of hope, however much of a facade it is, than to McDonalds.

    Dave from Hawaii: Well said.

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  121. @A.S.

    “You concern yourself with results, not irrelevant outside elements like fairness or easyness or convenience.”

    Gold.

    @ justme
    “Its sad that nowadays women have to base their entire worth as human beings on whether they can make a man “hard” (please excuse the vulgarity).”

    So? It’s sad that men have to base their entire worth as human beings on wether they can make a woman “happy” (please excuse the obvious).

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  122. Our host telling Nicole to get hit by a bus literally made me guffaw. Internet comments never, ever, make me laugh. Well done.

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  123. No fat chicks.

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  124. Everyone is talking more conventional methods to losing weight. I think these people (especially females) need to focus on balancing their hormones that cause cravings. These people are extremely imbalanced. Chinese Med will help with the balancing of hormones and naturally it will stop the cravings. I used to have extreme environmental seasonal allergies, but after taking natural herbs for a year I have NO allergies now. It really works. Stop the cravings and start developing a healthy lifestyle and diet.

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  125. It doesn’t help that unhealthy food is generally cheaper and more readily available than healthy food. I feel terrible for all the kids who are basically forced to eat junk by virtue of their parent(s)’ poor decisions or lack of financial means. Government really needs to step in here and do something to passively or actively incentivize healthier food choices.

    A healthy, well-adjusted person in our society just isn’t as profitable as someone you can bloat and medicate with terrible food and mind-destroying pharmaceuticals. Until that paradigm shifts, there’s just too many societal factors working against a person trying to remain healthy.

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  126. Remember – fat chicks voted for Obama.

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  127. Women, especially, who are tempted to believe that carrying some extra lard-flesh around does not drastically reduce their sexual attractiveness are done a real service by postings such as this. Is it better to lie to them?
    Women these days often fall victim to a simple form of projection: ” I am attracted sexually to self confifidence /a good self image in a guy, therefore they must feel the same towards women.”
    In reality, that is about 95% wrong. In reality, a fat chick who exudes sexual confidence is downright scary and let me tell you why… it means she listens too much to the voices in her head and ignores normal feedback and she is going to be your next psycho-stalker if you tap it.
    It is better for everyone that fat chicks get some honest guy-thoughts from the safe distance of the blogosphere. It is up to them to listen.

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  128. Remember – fat chicks voted for Obama.

    Obama loves big government, and big government is a transfer of wealth from productive men to unproductive women.

    Warpigs (like Nicole, for instance) can’t attract an actual man, so they get married to big daddy government. Big daddy government doesn’t care if they’re fat: big daddy kicks down benefits equally to hot chicks and warpigs. It’s the only way for a warpig to equalize the playing field.

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  129. For shame on all those soulless land whales!

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  130. This article remind me of something I saw on Wikipedia. I typed in “fat” and the definition was “Fat is being a fat fuck.”

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  131. look, i’m no fan of fat people either, but this is definitely one of those “take the plank out of thine own eye” situations.
    in particular, the quality and concentrated strength of the vitriol being spewed at fat people here is especially bemusing, given that the readership of this blog (qua game blog, at least) is, in a different but analogous sense, in exactly the same plight.

    let’s draw some parallels here:

    we really really hate fat people.
    * true, but, also, women really really hate men with no game.

    obesity is something that is easily cured through one’s own actions.
    * true, but, also, lack of game is something that is easily cured through one’s own actions.

    the presence of large numbers of fat women dilutes the quality of the dating pool for men.
    * true, but, also, the presence of large numbers of men with no game dilutes the quality of the dating pool for women.

    the information on how to get rid of obesity is out there.
    * true, but, also, the information on what constitutes attractive game is out there.

    if fat people just started to eat right, then they could become more slender and healthy within a few months or, in particularly bad cases, a couple of years.
    * true, but, if men with no game just started to learn game, they could become more attractive to women within a few weeks, or, in cases requiring a lot of work, within a few months. theoretically, within just a couple of minutes!

    i hope you get the point here: you guys learning game should probably refrain from throwing so many stones, considering that exactly the same preventable (and curable) affliction that is affecting these fat people is also buried deep within your own hearts.

    let’s take a look at the three root causes of the game crisis in the american upper/upper middle class, and, upon a little reflection, we’ll discover that — shocker! — those same three root causes also lie at the heart of the obesity problem.

    common complaint 1) people learning game must contend with an epic quantity of misinformation in the mainstream media.
    exactly the same is true for those attempting to learn the proper human diet: they must contend with laughably inaccurate schemas such as the government food pyramid; the slowly dying but still prevalent idea that low-fat, high-carbohydrate food is healthy; and so on.
    in fact, the sheer magnitude of the misinformation with which obese people are confronted is, proportionally, much more formidable than the magnitude of the corresponding problem faced by game learners. to wit, every man who hasn’t had his head buried in the sand for his entire life knows, by a relatively early age, that women are more attracted to men with a substantial bad boy streak. one could certainly not make the same claim about obese people, most of whom go through their entire benighted lives without encountering much, if any, accurate information about the optimal human diet.

    common complaint 2) men learning game have been conditioned, by their family and by their culture, directly against the core principles of game.
    the same is true for almost all obese americans; by and large, they tend to come from either (a) families in which a river of “self-esteem” jive runs through their entire childhood, or (b) the lower classes, which have grown fat (heh) and complacent on a diet (double heh) of entitlement programs.
    just as men who have had meekness and deference pounded into every neuron of their brains find it difficult to suddenly absorb a frame of dominance, so these people also find it difficult to impose self-control (and an admission that the forces of the human body are greater than those of the human ego) onto a life never previously driven by such a concept.

    common complaint 3) the concept of game has practically disappeared from our social class.
    one could make the same argument for the concept of self-control, which has equally disappeared from the lives of those affected by obesity (for reasons mentioned above).
    in each case, the affected class has something to learn from other classes; whether it will is anyone’s guess.
    that is, in the case of game, the upper and upper-middle classes could stand to take back the idea of external masculinity from men in the lower classes; in the case of obesity, the lower class (and the spoiled fraction of the upper classes) could stand to take back the idea of self-control from the upper classes.

    so, gamers, game thyselves!
    for every game blog on which can be heard the echo of the inner beta, clamoring to come back out despite one’s best efforts at constant suppression, there’s a former fatty in which the constant echo of sloth and indulgence constantly threatens to re-attain resonance frequency.

    in short:
    the reason you guys scream and yell and carry on so much about fatties … is because y’all are in exactly the same boat as they are.
    play on, playaz

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  132. Jonhnny 5

    Fatties are not fat because they, in good faith, believed pernicious lies -like beta guys. They are fat because they have taken on the wrong addiction.
    Good addiction = to sex, aerobic highs, success
    Bad addiction = to waves of sugar calories that drown unwanted feelings

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  133. Now THIS article was written by Roissy. It’s easy to spot the imitators.

    Bravo Roissy.

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  134. Once again, spot on. Your intellectual honesty coupled with your don’t-give-a-fuck attitude manifests itself in the exposition of truths that most people want to shy away from or euphemise.

    One thing though, and this is a general sentiment about your blog, maybe once, you should shock us all with some warmth and compassion for the the fat fucks and the over-intelligent benighted betas of the world. Really influental writing gently brings people out from the cave of comforting ignorance into the light – hands-held, blinking as the rays of light fall upon their eyes bit by bit. You violently yank back their eyelids and blast floodlights into their bulging eyeballs. I dunno, I haven’t read every post yet, maybe you’ve done this….I won’t count on it though

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  135. @johnny five

    i hope you get the point here: you guys learning game should probably refrain from throwing so many stones, considering that exactly the same preventable (and curable) affliction that is affecting these fat people is also buried deep within your own hearts.

    There’s a difference.

    Most of the guys on this blog are trying to learn game and be more successful with women. They cold, hard, bright truth of reality has broken through the shield of their former preconception. They really are trying.

    Most of the warpigs in the world aren’t trying. If they were trying, they would have already shed their extra hundred pounds and they’d be dating better guys. Instead, they’re sitting at home watching “Sex in the City” and eating Haagen-Daas bars just getting fatter.

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  136. Its funny how obesity apologists seem utterly incapable of distinguishing between clinical teletubbery and lazy fat blubbery. Claiming tenuous excuse to escape the shame that maybe its their own fault for looking like a Volkswagen beetle on legs.

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  137. on October 29, 2010 at 1:52 am blessedblkwings

    Let me help bear some light on the subject:

    In a laboratory setting, a rat will consume whatever quantities presented it in relation to the space it occupies. In other words, when you see the subway rat that looks the size of a raccoon with a striped tail, best believe that fucker’s been eating any mangled piece of shit thats crossed its unmitigated path into fatitude.

    Given the option between cocaine and food, the rat will always choose the higher gratification up to EXTINCTION. A mammal will forgo necessity over desire. This may explain the primitive drive between an obese persons need to exercise versus stuffing their holes with garbage. Their pleasure outweighs any inherent consequence of over-eating, thus the cycle repeats itself ad infinitum.

    I exercise most everyday. I take care of my appearance. I guard my thoughts and speak with concision. And I sharpen the claws of my game in order to slay the hottest girls possible. Why? Because pounding fine ass into my mattress is one of the highest gratifications I have encountered on this planet, pure and simple. Whatever consequence arrives as a by-product of this action I’m willing to accept, provided I take the necessary precautions to reduce the risk of STDs and the like in order to continue.

    My philosophy is to let the fatties eat all they want; natural selection will eliminate them. The 40-80 ratio will return closer to equilibrium, as the Earth has a funny way of maintaining stasis.

    Let the sheeple be lead by the Pied Piper media. The cream will rise to conquer them all.

    93

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  138. @extrastout

    Most cancer, whether it’s of the breast, prostate, testicles, lymphnodes, etc. is just an accident of nature. It happens, and there’s not much you can do about it>>>>

    BERLIN – More than 124,000 people in Europe developed cancer last year because they are overweight,

    Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/caused+cancer+cases+Europe+Experts/2028181/story.html?id=2028181#ixzz13j1OgZZ3

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  139. on October 29, 2010 at 2:12 am Caesar Augustus

    What you have is a chicken and egg scenario. Did people become fat because they were betas or became betas when they chose to be fat? For myself it was the former. A lifetime of feminist indoctrination, (grew up in an entirely female household) plus cultural factors (being Indian) led to me being a push over wimp which really destroys your self esteem. Food and video games (part of my sedentary lifestyle) were my escape. It only made things worse of course but without a father figure I had no one to guide me in the right direction. Without access to good information it’s impossible to correct your course. I do believe fatties should be rebuked and ostracized (myself included) but like someone else said earlier approaching the problem pragmatically is the optimal solution. I’ve begun to drop my weight. At my heaviest I was 290 and I’m down to 236. My goal is to get to 150. My motivation came when I finally learned why I was such a loser. It wasn’t the weight per se, I had been skinny much of my life, it was cuz I was a pathetic beta. This blog as well as others really opened my eyes to how manhood (being alpha) should be embraced. The source of all my problems was that I just didn’t know how to be a man. I’m on the right track now I hope.

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  140. This all bullshit still continues at this platform!

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  141. I like the pick up tips and they work well.

    I hate feminism.

    When you move on to whining about the decline of civilization I say:

    FUCK YOU and your fascist bullshit.

    I could give a fuck less about the so-called civilization.

    I don’t mind eating and will be glad to be gone well before you are

    IMPALED ON SHARP OBJECTS AND / OR HUNG BY THE NECK UNTIL DEAD

    by the large majority that are not LUCKY and / or EVIL.

    It is well understood that capitalism benefits the LUCKY and / or the EVIL.

    Your kind will promote the next NAZI regime.

    We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.

    Hitler was elected, as you know.

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  142. Johnny five wrote:

    ———–

    “in short:
    the reason you guys scream and yell and carry on so much about fatties … is because y’all are in exactly the same boat as they are.
    play on, playaz”

    ———–

    The fatties are not in any boat, because they ARE the boat. In the Soviet ….

    Anyway, your whole edifice of parallels is crushed by a big fat difference you ignored.

    The fat brigade want their grossness to be accepted and themselves respected.

    Guys here who lack game do NOT want their deficiencies to be accepted or respected. They want to change themselves.
    This blog and its readers are constantly making fun of all the lame betas.

    Mocking the human hippos is no different and should be encouraged, because, besides fun, it follows that old adage of ‘being cruel to be kind’.

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  143. Don”t worry about them, the Visitors will come down and eat them.

    Just stay thin and they’ll skip over you.

    Nice of the Visitors to cull the herd for the rest of us.

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  144. on October 29, 2010 at 4:28 am Michael Wittmann

    “Bob

    Your kind will promote the next NAZI regime.

    We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.

    Hitler was elected, as you know.”

    Can’t wait. Sieg Heil you ignorant Marxist piece of shit.

    PS If you’re going to whine about ideology– in between pieces of cake while consuming Progressive media– do pick up some books sometime and learn the difference between the promoters of capitalism and fascism and actual National Socialism sometime. Books not written by your fellow clueless left-wing ideologues.

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  145. It’s all relative. I am 5ft 11ins and I weigh 170 lbs, but when I visited Burma a couple of years back I was just about the fattest man in the country.

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  146. johnny five: Interesting point. I do not hate or shame fat chicks, I just filter them out of my observation. I guess women work the same way towards betas.

    But on the other hand a beta can have bursts of alpha, which get him in the female spot light (often for too short a time), whereas fat chicks do not have bursts of thinness.

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  147. Nicole

    “You are more likely to die in such an accident than I am.”

    – Nah. The fat fuck is comprised of more mass. Therefore it will take greater effort for the fat fuck to remove themselves from the danger and can not get out the bus in time as quickly as the non fat fuck population. Therefore fat fucks are less likely to survive this type of “accident”. And even if the fat fuck is luckier to survive an impact from the bus, they will die quicker than before because of their increased immobility will cause them to become even fatter as they keep eating while in the hospital thru feeding tubes and at home while they watch tv recovering, watching other fat fucks on oprah doing fat fuck things.

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  148. I sincerely second ExtraStout’s FUCK YOU to idiots like Zervios who equate being fat by choice with getting cancer, or to other idiots like Nicole, who try to convince people that if you just do this or that, you will never get cancer. FUCK YOU!

    Like ExtraStout, I was a healthy, non-smoker, rare drinker, regular exerciser when I was diagnosed with Hodgkin’s lymphoma just a couple of months before my 32nd birthday. It was completely out of my power to control. The same cannot be said of grossly FAT people who make ten trips to the buffet table every evening. There is little to no evidence at this point that diet (eat grains versus don’t eat grains or similar quackery) affects your chances of getting most types of cancer one way or the other. Sometimes, shit just happens. So, once again, Nicole: FUCK YOU!

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  149. The incidence of hyperthyroidism in the USA just shot up 3000%. Just look at all those comments spewing shit over there! While medical disorders surely are a factor, lifestyle choices trump them all.

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  150. (please merge this with my earlier comment if you can, if not no matter) 🙂
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperthyroidism

    “Major clinical signs include weight loss”
    “Hyperthyroidism usually begins slowly. At first, the symptoms may be mistaken for simple nervousness due to stress. If one has been trying to lose weight by dieting, one may be pleased with weight loss success until the hyperthyroidism, which has quickened the weight loss, causes other problems.”

    The apologists got pwned yet again…

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  151. Mukluk says, “Nicole is doing a great job demonstrating the power of the female rationalization hamster. Just give the poor guy a break is all I ask.”

    Why should I give him a break?

    He is not entitled to my unearned respect any more than I am entitled to his.

    When I look at a situation, I first learn about the realities involved, and then if needed, try to think of solutions in line with the reality of the situation.

    I owe overly emotional non realists nothing. Not fat acceptors and not sheeple resisting the change in programming.

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  152. Lavazza, actually many fat chicks do have bursts of thinness when they diet conventionally. It’s just that when the conventional diet is over, they gain the weight back and then some.

    My mom did that for 30 years, up and down, up and down. It didn’t end until I passed the information to her about natural dieting. Now, she’s losing weight just like me, slowly but surely, on a plan she can stay on for life without feeling deprived.

    There’s little chance of relapse because once you learn what body likes, body doesn’t like fake food anymore.

    Living with a chronic dieter, and getting called fat and ugly for years when I was very fit and not fat at all is what solidified my disdain for the idiot strain of sanctimonious “skinny fat” sheeple. The latter is how I understand that there’s nothing rational about fat bashers.

    So, in light of the reality of this, I say skip trying to be rational, and just try to at least say something constructive.

    Most of you are just stupid and will go whichever way the trend blows. Your arguments don’t come out of any kind of realization that you’re being duped since you’re just reacting to the new bad programming with the old bad programming.

    Just deprogram enough to get folks off fake food, and I’ll be happy. Be as disgusted and mean as you like, but put out some information that’s actually going to solve the problem instead of exascerbating it.

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  153. “UPDATE: I would really like to apologize for the insensitive things I’ve said in this post. Believe it or not, I never wanted anyone to feel bullied or ashamed after reading this, and I sorely regret that it upset people so much. A lot of what I said was unnecessary. It wasn’t productive, either.
    


    I know a lot of people truly struggle to lose weight — for medical and psychological reasons — and that many people have an incredibly difficult time getting to a healthy size. I feel for those people and I’m truly sorry I added to the unhappiness and pain they feel with my post.
    


    I would like to reiterate that I think it’s great to have people of all shapes and healthy sizes represented in magazines (as, it bears mentioning here, they are in Marie Claire) and on TV shows — and that in my post, I was talking about a TV show that features people who are not simply a little overweight, but appear to be morbidly obese. (Morbid obesity is defined as 100 percent more than their ideal weight.) And for whatever it’s worth, I feel just as uncomfortable when I see an anorexic person as I do when I see someone who is morbidly obese, because I assume people suffering from eating disorders on either end of the spectrum are doing damage to their bodies, and that they are unhappy. But perhaps I shouldn’t be so quick to judge based on superficial observations.

    To that point (and on a more personal level), a few commenters and one of my friends mentioned that my extreme reaction might have grown out of my own body issues, my history as an anorexic, and my life-long obsession with being thin. As I mentioned in the ongoing dialogue we’ve been carrying on in the comments section, I think that’s an accurate insight.

    People have accused me of being a bully in my post. I never intended to be that — it’s actually the very last thing I want to be, as a writer or a person. But I know that I came off that way, and I really cannot apologize enough to the people whom I upset.”

    (Post has been updated)

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  154. In my office building there are about 700 people. Around 200 are women in the ages 25-40. I guess 10 of them are overweight, 20 underweight, and one or two obese. All professionals sitting indoors most of the day working with computers, telephones, pen and paper. I do not see why this should not be the norm everywhere.

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  155. and some retards complain about the Rodeo of the Fatties

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  156. Gig, rodeo of the fatties is guys making excuses to dry hump obese women.

    …not the thing you want to do if the objective is to convince them that they’re sexually irrelevant.

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  157. Nicole,

    It´s been tree days since I read the news about the Rodeo.

    And I still haven´t managed to stop laughing. The only bad thing about it is that it happened after I left college

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  158. Oh, well, here’s something to laugh about.

    Still funny?

    At least guys who jump on guys, I can respect. Guys who jump on girls are just pussies.

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  159. “Remember – fat chicks voted for Obama.”

    Pfffft. You oughta see the whale who’s on the Republican ticket for Governor here in MN.

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  160. Nicole

    You are the living proof the Rodeo worked.

    It happened a world away from you, but you can´t stop hurting .

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  161. Gig, I don’t claim to be a sociopath unmoved by such things.

    You, on the other hand, want to make it seem manly and brave to jump on women who, though they are heavier, are weaker than you.

    Picking the easy target is not manly. Nobody with a functioning dick will back you up on this.

    Ridicule and shame as much as you like, but when you put your hands on someone, you’ve crossed a line.

    You either want a civil society or you don’t. If you or the other person gets hurt, I just hope it was worth whatever thrill you get out of it.

    What I don’t get is that you’re here praising these pussies for doing something you’re too pussy to do yourself.

    What are you afraid of?

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  162. How’s this for funny? Pathetic out of shape sheep with love handles jumps on fat girl to please his friends.

    Now that’s comedy.

    He’s so big and lacking in limberness himself that he can’t even do it right.

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  163. on October 29, 2010 at 9:54 am Hellborn two-zero

    Face it, if people wanted to watch hippos fuck, the big 3 networks would show national geographic episodes instead of insipid reality TV.

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  164. Kelly has apologized because pussies who bought the feminist hype about “breeder” bodies are equally chickenshit against the new hype demanding to be loved no matter how defective.

    All pussy is pink.

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  165. “Rodeo of fatties” iso “Fat of rodeo” is a better translation to the name of ‘competition’.

    Damn, I am brazilian and was about to send this news to roissy. Too slow.

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  166. Its mostly diet. Even at a Whole Foods there are tons of things that are “organic” but will still make you fat.

    Red Meat + Veggies + Fruit and you will be thin. By working out one can add muscle but thats gravy.

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  167. Holy shit.
    http://bit.ly/auSldu
    mcdonalds has to pay for making someone fat.

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  168. I don’t think the Brazillians invented it. Someone there probably got the idea from this urban sport:

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  169. What are you afraid of?

    fat people

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  170. Gig, no shit.

    …but if you’re afraid of fat women, you got issues.

    Fat women are usually weak and frail. It’s not like the old days when a woman got fat from eating good food and getting old and more sedentary.

    That thread about today’s recruits being unfit…those are normal weight people whose bones are cracking. What do you figure is going to happen to someone who’s overweight if you jump on them, especially if they fall onto their knees?

    Only a fucking psycho would do that to a woman. Psychos are known to attack what they fear. Fear of women in a man is irrational and usually the result of abuse by a woman or bad programming.

    Guys who do that kind of thing are broadcasting their defectiveness. Why should anyone see you as less damaged than the fatties you fear?

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  171. I take that back. A non psycho who might do it is a wimp tool of psychos who does it to fit in…a stupid sheep.

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  172. (Are you all noticing how the shaming thing works both ways, and is probably not the best way to change someone’s opinion? Have any of you become less inclined to hate on fat women as a result of this conversation?

    I didn’t think so.

    Thank you for playing.)

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  173. We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.

    Don’t you mean 1920? Hyperinflation hasn’t come yet!

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  174. on October 29, 2010 at 10:47 am Gunslingergregi

    ”””””but, also, the presence of large numbers of men with no game dilutes the quality of the dating pool for women.”””””

    Naaa the knowledge of divorce laws being passed around to men and men watching what happens to other men in divorce is what is diluting the quality of the dating pool for woman.

    For men to keep basic rights there should be no dating pool for western woman so no man can get ensnared.

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  175. on October 29, 2010 at 10:52 am Johnathan Blaze

    Off topic, but my buddy is a radiologist in LA and he sent me this email based on a random day he had. He’s not a liar and he’s a good looking dude.

    Day in the life of a radiologist:

    wake up, get one more blowjob from girl in bed who will brag about blowing you to her friends

    arrive at work, start looking at images

    get blowjob from cute slutty nurse

    look at more images

    lunch at badass restaurant

    look at images

    go visit doctor friend who shoots you up with medical-grade HGH and testosterone supplements, for free of course

    get blowjob from cute peds resident you bump into in the elevator

    look at images, read medical journals

    receive card and flowers from woman whose life you saved by spotting a small tumor on her CT scan

    leave work relaxed, knowing you banked at least a G, post-tax

    arrive at upscale gym wearing white coat, get a girl’s number before you make it to the locker room

    have an awesome HGH-fueled workout, admire yourself in mirror

    get another number of hot fitness chick after mentioning how the gym at your hospital sucks

    go home and vaporize a little medical-grade weed in your medical-grade vaporizer and enjoy some killer tunes

    call your stay-at-home wife, who is visiting her parents for the week and took your two sons with her

    get a badass dinner with rich doctor bros, discuss luxury items you are planning on purchasing

    take some xanax that your doctor friend gave you and hit the club feeling jacked and relaxed

    effortlessly take home cute pre-med chick who is half your age after telling her canned story of all the crazy stuff you’ve seen at work

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  176. i just spent a couple of minutes reading through that fat chick’s blog. here’s a little rule of thumb that i like to employ: if you’re reading something that relies on jargon and made up language to make its point, it’s probably bullshit.

    unless you are dealing with highly technical subjectes, truth can be expressed in plain english. it doesn’t need nonsense vocabulary like “size acceptance” and “body politics.”

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  177. I’m disappointed to see that no mention is being made of automobile-centric culture in creating all these fatties.

    The ratio of thin-to-fat among people who don’t own cars vastly exceeds the ratio for people who drive.

    If you’re fat, sell your car and start walking/cycling everywhere. If you work far from home, at least walk as far as the nearest bus or train station and then from the station to your workplace. If you really live in the middle of nowhere and there are no trains or buses, then move to the city. Megafauna are rare in such habitats.

    Sure, the federal government and companies like GM have been instrumental in making America into a car-dependent nation. They’re right up there with the food companies and their high-fructose corn syrup. But you can’t sit around (sit is the right word, no) bitching and moaning about them — start moving yourself around and watch that fat burn off! *Anyone* will lose weight if they get everywhere they go using their own power. Anyone.

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  178. The obesity epidemic isn’t merely a health problem on the part of the particular individuals who have it, but also a general aesthetics problem. Whether it be Frank Lloyd Wright, Francis Bacon, Franz Klein, or Ray Kroc there are many who have contributed to this general aesthetic epidemic ranging from architecture to “art” to “food”.

    Fat people also take up more space, and want to change society according to their whims and wishes. Why should a corporation have to expend capital to accommodate such people, especially since that would signal obesity’s social acceptance?

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  179. “Its mostly diet. Even at a Whole Foods there are tons of things that are ‘organic’ but will still make you fat.

    Red Meat + Veggies + Fruit and you will be thin. By working out one can add muscle but that’s gravy.”

    Also, would ostrich be classified under red meat, even though it is technically poultry? It has a very distinctive taste, but is a very lean food that is good for a barbecue. Bison is also great, it is leaner than cow beef and far tastier too.

    Additionally, keep in mind not to lift too much, since a person wants to keep their neck and still look good in a suit!

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  180. “I do believe fatties should be rebuked and ostracized (myself included) but like someone else said earlier approaching the problem pragmatically is the optimal solution.”-Cesare Augustus

    Pragmatism only works in certain situations, what you really want is a priori knowledge of those who came before you. If method A has worked for millions of people and is scientifically validated, then apply it. While method X, one you have invented and is new, is risky because it lacks the a priori pedigree and substantive research.

    “Pragmatic”, or any variant of the word thereof, and “optimal” should very rarely be used in the same sentence, since pragmatism is an experience based philosophy, while using a priori based philosophies build on the knowledge of the past, and utilize theory, and those who have previously gone. Pragmatism still has a place, especially when there are no beaten paths to travel.

    Someone said that creativity is also important and not just science, but creativity still needs to have a solid base to be effective, otherwise, it would simply be novelty without substance.

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  181. Read somewhere that the fat gene makes up 1% of all the obese in the western world.

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  182. Nicole refers fatties to the Weston A Price organization. Here are points 4 and 5 of this organization’s dietary guidelines:

    4. Eat full-fat milk products from pasture-fed cows, preferably raw and/or fermented, such as raw milk, whole yogurt, kefir, cultured butter, whole raw cheeses and fresh and sour cream. (Imported cheeses that say “milk” or “fresh milk” on the label are raw.)

    5. Use animal fats, especially butter, liberally.

    No wonder Nicole is so frickin fat: she has a taste for the most calorie-dense foods out there (assuming she eats this crap)!

    If you want to lose weight and live a long time, I support a near-vegan diet supplemented with ocassional meat consumption.

    A good book that brings up the science supporting the repeated associations of high fat foods and poor health:

    http://www.amazon.com/China-Study-Comprehensive-Nutrition-Implications/dp/1932100385

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  183. So Gawker, certainly no bastion of class, runs a pretty funny and entirely believable story about slutty anti-slut Christine O’Donnell that’s almost universally condemned by its commenters and everyone else, but its pretty revealing truth about clash of conservative Christian sexual morality and the modern dating-mating zeitgeist:

    http://gawker.com/5674353/i-had-a-one+night-stand-with-christine-odonnell

    Some notables:

    1.) Apparently its okay for a woman to speak candidly about — and capitalize upon — her sexual dalliances with a male politician (think Gennifer Flowers, et al) because its a brave act to come forward and reveal the “true” nature of the man running or holding public office. Yet, when a man embraces our newfangled contrivance of equivalence of our modern gender-neutral playing field, he’s the biggest douchebag on the planet, robbing Miss O’Donnell of her privacy and dignity.

    Double standards are a bitch, but once we’ve been disabused of a double standard favorable to men, why should another double standard — extreme discretion regarding a woman’s sexual life — be maintained? Its a brave new world, ladies. Welcome to the province of men, where your freewheeling sexuality is not only unrestrained by shame and judgment, but is also open to sharing and obviously, gawking. Especially if you pursue public office.

    2.) “I’m a virgin” = ultimate last minute anti-slut resistance. Its the Kamikazi into the flightdeck. What does one do with a 30-some “virgin,” naked in his bed? On the one hand, plundering the allegedly unspoilt terrain is incredibly enticing, but on the other, what kind of out-of-the-blue drunken cougar slut making moves on a man a decade and a half younger is a goddamn virgin?

    3.) Though the author’s getting shit for being turned off by her jungle bush, who can blame him, honestly? This woman seeks him out, seduces him into bed with her, and what she brings to the sheets is a pubic-do from the decade she was born in? Christ almighty.

    4.) Halloween is an anything-goes sluttacular, even for Republican sexual moralists.

    5.) There’s a reason O’Donnell isn’t married, and its not because she’s saving herself for her Christian Prince Charming. Its that she’s a secret slut who’s been royally psyche-fucked by the two polar forces of faith-based sexual repression and feminist sexual liberation. Why else would she ask her hookup boytoy to lie to her friend about what’s about to go down? She couldn’t even be honest to her friend about her intentions, even though the drunkeness, slutty ladybug costume, and unannounced appearance at a man’s home completely gives her away?

    6.) I bet this guy wishes he’d have thrown it in her now. If only for the additional amateur porn pics & lolz.

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  184. “I can’t make this shit up.”

    Now you see why fat acceptors see you guys as an even worse freak show when you don’t talk sense?

    They think you are all NMH.

    They don’t know why it doesn’t work, just that it doesn’t work, and people like NMH and like tools are hucksters or misery addicts.

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  185. Just keep loading your baked potatoes with butter sticks, Nicole, and your ever-growing ass will soon be six-feet under.

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  186. on October 29, 2010 at 12:19 pm Caesar Augustus

    “I’m disappointed to see that no mention is being made of automobile-centric culture in creating all these fatties.

    The ratio of thin-to-fat among people who don’t own cars vastly exceeds the ratio for people who drive.

    If you’re fat, sell your car and start walking/cycling everywhere. If you work far from home, at least walk as far as the nearest bus or train station and then from the station to your workplace. If you really live in the middle of nowhere and there are no trains or buses, then move to the city. Megafauna are rare in such habitats.

    Sure, the federal government and companies like GM have been instrumental in making America into a car-dependent nation. They’re right up there with the food companies and their high-fructose corn syrup. But you can’t sit around (sit is the right word, no) bitching and moaning about them — start moving yourself around and watch that fat burn off! *Anyone* will lose weight if they get everywhere they go using their own power. Anyone.” – Kyo

    Very good point. It”s amusing how liberals get attacked here relentlessly yet liberals (the coastal big city latte sipping types) are overwhelmingly in better shape than their suburban and rural conservative counterparts who spend hours upon hours commuting.

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  187. @Nicole

    “The_King, I can’t figure out what you’re trying to say with all the bleating.

    Now, if you don’t mind, I’ll be waiting for the post about how cutters are disgusting and should be thrown in front of busses, and how beauticians who get lung cancer deserve to be jumped on in a cosmetologist rodeo.

    Waiting…but not holding my breath.”

    I completely understand that your estrogen brain cannot decipher the complex arguments, discourse and metaphors men subliminally incorporate into their vernacular.

    I take offense that you would equate fatness with cutters and people who get lung cancer. The latter two are usually derived from factors beyond the person’s control such as a mental disability or inheritance of bad genes. You could make a case that obesity is also due to mental disability or bad genes, however the majority of fatties become that way because of laziness, ignorance and denial.

    I have nothing against mentally impaired individuals or people with thyroid problems who take medication to combat their short comings and strive to improve. I do however have a problem like cows like you and the majority of obese Americans who have no self-respect or concern for others that they continue to harm themselves by shoving food and ignore available options such as exercise and diet, but blame others like the media for your lack of will to change. Don’t try to argue, it is clear that you are ignorant about dieting from your posts, if you think that eating once a day will help you lose weight. I burn more calories eating than you would do the whole day.

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  188. NMH, here’s a clue: I’m not Chinese.

    Do you believe that all humans are adapted to thrive on the same diet?

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  189. Oh, and by the way, NMH, in case you missed it, I’ve lost 35 kg. following the recommendations of the Weston A. Price foundation.

    It has also cured my hypothyroidism, and stopped my osteoarthritis.

    Since I’m getting the proper nutrition, I don’t have to count calories, and I’m still losing weight.

    Misery is not required to be thin or at least get down to a healthier weight. You haven’t accomplished anything that wasn’t quite normal 50 years ago.

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  190. The book “The China study” is not an association with race with diet and disease, you nit-wit; it is the association of personal wealth with diet and disease. Basically what the book shows is that high fat diets that are consumed in relatively wealthy Chinese provinces are associated with high rates of western-like diseases (heart attack, stroke, cancer) while low fat diets consumed in relatively poor Chinese provinces are associated with relatively low levels of western diseases.

    For example, there is about a 200-fold increase in prostate cancer going from low fat to high fat diets in China

    Needless to say, association (correlations) do not definitively suggest causality, but Dr. Cambpell found evidence of causality as he described in the book. Also the intervention studies done by Dr Esseltyn highly support a casual role for high fat in cardio-vascular diseases.

    Get off your fat butt, Nicole, and read this book.

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  191. I tried to spear some whales out on that comments board (TBone83) but good god, man – I was overwhelmed. The sheer volume of fatties ready to SQUASH any and every critical comment fired their way was too much to bear. I weep for our future…

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  192. Nicole- I meant give your hamster a break.

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  193. NMH, the China study has been debunked, as he cherry picked the date to fit a theory he had already come up with.

    Of course you won’t read the link I provided and resort to pejoratives, but if you did, you would find that fat is not the culprit.

    Your low fat posting is a bit behind the zeitgeist.

    http://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf

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  194. *data not date (damn thee nails)

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  195. Mukluk, I’m a woman who doesn’t want to get bullied and harassed for temporarily falling for the same nutritional hype most Americans do.

    No rationalization needed. I don’t want guys jumping on me in the club, thinking it’s a good idea to wreck my back or my knees so he can feel like a better beta.

    How do you think I should feel about it? Do tell.

    Yeah yeah, I should lose weight, but that’s going to take some time to do safely. What do you suggest I do to keep myself from being harassed until then? Stay indoors all the time?

    …and just how skinny does a woman have to be to escape the harassment some people here feel all fat women deserve?

    Apparently, 5’4″ and 105 lbs. wasn’t skinny enough. Why, at 120 lbs. by golly I was a whale who needed to be reminded constantly how worthless and ugly I was.

    Just where does it end with you people? When is it enough?

    …but *my* rationalization hamster is in overdrive?

    You don’t see the problem with what you’re trying to rationalize?

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  196. NMH, stop drinking the koolade.

    My butt is a lot less fat since I stopped eating the shit you people sell as “healthy”.

    When your joints dissolve, don’t say nobody tried to warn you.

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  197. You know what…fuck it. I’m done trying to help people who don’t want to be helped.

    Enjoy your eyes bleeding. It’ll get a lot worse, and when it gets better, the better will be $5 a pill or covered very nicely by obamacare.

    …but you’ll be happier then, and a happy sheep is a compliant sheep.

    When you’re subsidizing gastric bypass surgeries and Xenical and off-label uses for Concerta and Ritalin like we are now here in Israel, you’ll just find something else to bitch and do nothing constructive about.

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  198. Bob

    We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.

    Bob Fosse makes yet another mediocre musical
    that serves as the prime history lesson
    to lazy thinkers?

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  199. Bob

    We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.

    hmm
    Bob Fosse makes yet another mediocre musical
    that serves as the prime history lesson
    to lazy thinkers?

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  200. yikes
    how did that happen
    there must be a God
    and thus
    a Satan

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  201. “We are living in the 1932 Weimar Republic and you know what’s next.”

    Things are crazy in this post 10-11 world.

    (btw he’s not totally wrong, the weimar republic technically ended in 1933 or 34 i think)

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  202. NMH – the vegan diet is an abomination that was dreamt up by a bunch of californian retards.

    Its probably the best way of making yourself both malnourished and fat at the same time.

    I’m not aware of any natural diet that is vegan. Even the strictest natural diets I’ve come across such as the jain diet in India (they basically don’t eat any meat, fish, eggs, or vegetables that were grown underground like potatoes, but they do eat milk and milk products such as ghee [clarified butter]) are not vegan in that they don’t proscribe dairy.

    Whilst I disagree with Nicole’s contention that fatness is something that fatties can’t help, your statement that the vegan diet is optimal is laughable at best, and ridiculously bad advice at worst.

    When I decided to drop a few pounds last year (to get myself from a bmi of 24.5 back down to around 23) I did about an hour’s research on the web, and came to the conclusion that a high protein, high fat, low carb diet was the way to go. This is why I question the idea that the truth isn’t out there; sure if you listen to credentialed idiots you’ll get the wrong steer, but then who does that?

    I followed that diet and lost the excess fat in about 4 weeks. I continued it because it gave me a lot more energy than my old carb-rich diet did. I also got medical checkups, to make sure it wasn’t having an invisible effect. The results: low blood pressure (105 / 65); healthy cholesterol; optimal iron levels; good cardiovascular fitness etc. Basically, despite what you see claimed about a low carb diet being unhealthy, the evidence of people that actually try it properly is that it works.

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  203. One other thing – the quickest way to cut the carbs is to stop drinking calories.

    Just stop drinking sodas entirely, and stick to either water or alcohol (beer, wine, whatever you prefer).

    Its hard for the first few days (I used to drink 1-2 cans of coke a day) but after a while you don’t even think of drinking that shit anymore.

    If a fatty can’t even do that, then contempt is the best they deserve.

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  204. @Dream Puppy – I find your link compelling, but I would like to point out is that most of Campbell’s book is about the association of high fat diets with disease. He does have a hypothesis that fat causes these diseases and puts forth the evidence for it, like good scientists do.

    Esseltyn’s work that cardiac patients put of an extreme low fat diet live much longer that cardiac patients that are not strongly support a causal role for saturated fat in Coronary Artery Disease. Sure, it could be something else, but the simplest explanation is most likely to be correct.

    Campbell spends a lot of time in his book discussing Esseltyns work.

    This work is the current Zietgeist. Although The Price foundation has some good dietary suggestions, the use of high fat and butter in diets will most certainly drive CAD and stoke. Do a pubmed search of “high fat” AND stoke or CAD and read the papers yourself.

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  205. @Gunn

    Actually if you really wanted to go all out you would only drink water, black coffee, unsweetened tea and one glass of red or white wine a day. Other alcoholic spirits have either too much carbs or do too much damage to the liver. Wine contains enough anti-toxins to be beneficial if you consume one a day.

    Again most people aren’t disciplined enough to follow such a strict beverage diet.

    @Nicole

    You don’t have a fat ass? You are over 200 lbs, meaning unless you have an ass of 32-35, you do have a fat ass.

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  206. Gunn says, “Whilst I disagree with Nicole’s contention that fatness is something that fatties can’t help…”

    Just went right over your head.

    It’s alright. I’m used to it.

    I suppose the only reason I find it frustrating is because I don’t yet believe deeply enough that social dependence is something that can’t be helped.

    I am fighting a losing battle against human nature. I should stop.

    At least you’re anti phood though. That’s something.

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  207. TK, same goes for you.

    I’ll respect you more when you learn to read the actual text on the page instead of bleating like a dumb animal.

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  208. on October 29, 2010 at 2:30 pm Horatio Sanchez

    I didn’t know the fat apologists were more than a fringe thing, but going by the comments over there, it looks like I was wrong. Even in our times of dreary left-o-tardism, silly old me thought that “fat acceptance” was repellent to nearly everyone. It turns out that the left, which has never found a “victim” group it doesn’t like, has appropriated this one as well. Shoulda seen it coming. (Since more women are overweight than men, especially when we go by body fat percentage and not BMI… this movement was doubly inevitable. Females are never responsible for their own lot in life, as we all know.)

    Who will be the first lobbyist for the “fat acceptance” crowd? Who will be the first morbidly obese congressman? Do we need affirmative action for fat fatty fucks? All the pillars of the American empire are collapsing around us at a frightening pace…

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  209. on October 29, 2010 at 2:32 pm msexceptiontotherule

    When should we start recommending a diet which consists solely of those cookies with tapeworm eggs in their ingredients? Sure, that’s absolutely disgusting and we should be revolted by their very existence (and they do still exist, even though the tapeworm part in the ingredients was discovered, they’re still in there) but if a person chooses a diet of cookies – and a sensible dinner – they’re truly asking for ridicule (and tapeworms), which I’m more than happy to dish out to them. 🙂 The ridicule part, not the tapeworms.

    There are various charts and graphs that have been developed to indicate what is considered healthy in terms of weight based on height and bone structure. Medical research has linked a number of health problems to not just being overweight but some have even been indicated based on where that extra weight is located on the body (such as the abdomen) – I’m sure that anyone who is overweight has a hard time hearing about all of the health concerns that they’re looking at the possibility of being diagnosed with. They still know they’re high risk for these conditions, just like people who don’t see the dentist for preventative reasons know that they’re increasing their risk for costly dental treatments to deal with the problems that come along without routine preventative dental care. Neither group can convince me that they have no idea how they got to the state they are in, whether its because of several factors or whatever – when it comes down to it, what they need to do at this point is figure out the best way to work towards becoming healthy. I don’t know if that means they need to figure out the whys, and as a thin person I doubt that the whys are all that important – but that’s just my perspective. We shouldn’t be promoting acceptance/tolerance for people that have failed to properly look after their health, and we shouldn’t need to apologize for having an opinion, regardless of whether it’s an unpopular one or not.

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  210. @the King,

    sure you can cut out beer, but then life’s not worth living 😉

    also, I’ve read conflicting stuff about carbs in beer – some people claim they give rise to beer bellies, but a lot of research suggests that people that drink heavily also eat a lot of crappy food (kebabs etc as you’re staggering home).

    I drink less these days more because I can’t process it like I used to when I was 20.

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  211. MsException says, “We shouldn’t be promoting acceptance/tolerance for people that have failed to properly look after their health, and we shouldn’t need to apologize for having an opinion, regardless of whether it’s an unpopular one or not.”

    I can, tomorrow, make an appointment with my doctor, and within a couple of weeks, get gastric bypass surgery for free.

    Soon, this will be the “right” of every American.

    …and I’m gonna laaaaaaaugh.

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  212. on October 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm thatthingthere

    Well, it’s bull dykes and blood
    It’s dust and mud
    It’s the roar of a mocking crowd
    It’s the white in his knuckles
    The gold in the buckle
    He’ll win the next go ’round
    It’s boots and chaps
    It’s cowboy hats
    It’s spurs and latigo
    It’s the ropes and the reins
    And the joy and the pain
    And they call the thing fat rodeo.

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  213. “Who will be the first lobbyist for the “fat acceptance” crowd?”

    Michael Taylor.

    “Who will be the first morbidly obese congressman?”

    Collin Peterson.

    “Do we need affirmative action for fat fatty fucks?”

    Correlation isn’t causation, but that would be kinda like affirmative action for people who wear glasses.

    “All the pillars of the American empire are collapsing around us at a frightening pace…”

    True, but not for the reasons you might think.

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  214. @Nicole

    I am an animal.

    Kingdom: animalia
    Phylum: chordata
    Class: mammalia
    Order: primate
    Family: homindae
    Genus: homo
    species: homo-sapiens

    Dumb? You have a habit of labeling any statements you don’t understand as dumb. I have read and quoted your statements the way they are, perhaps you should do the same.

    Also please don’t think you have any influence over me, your “respect” does not concern me. I guess you know why. This ties into the idea that guys will remember everything what a hot girl says, but not for fuglies.

    @Gunn

    True, cognac & cigars and drugs are also hard to sacrifice in the name of a healthy diet. The difference is that I exercise and live an active lifestyle compared to cows like Nicole. I can bet a million dollars I will never exceed 220 lbs and 20% body fat.

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  215. TK if you don’t want my respect, then stop gunning for it.

    Stop writing as if you want me to believe that you are somehow better than me.

    You’re not even braver than me. For all I know, you’re one of those bitter White chicks trying to pass herself off as male here.

    You wouldn’t be the first.

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  216. on October 29, 2010 at 3:35 pm Horatio Sanchez

    Nicole, I’m more of the Roissy school on you (“please roll your fat self under an oncoming bus”), but perhaps you should read this. Weight loss surgery (WLS) is extremely dangerous and kills a large number of people. http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2008/04/gastric-bypass-cures-and-kills.html

    That blog is recommended for everyone here, by the way. I’m in no way a “fat acceptance” sympathizer, since it’s clear it’s largely just another “victim” group the left has appropriated in its mission of destroying America, and besides, these people are clearly unconcerned with solutions in the first place – but there is more to the increased fatness of Americans than just diet and lack of exercise (the latter in particular is a pretty stupid argument: all-else equal, people just eat more after they exercise, offsetting the calorie loss). In particular, the modern environment is a toxic waste-land that disrupts metabolism and damages genes. Ergo, more people get fat and get diabetes. There are studies that prove as much. Search that blog for “bisphenol-A”, for starters.

    There are other factors in the fattening of America – increased carb consumption, food additives that stimulate appetite and “addiction”, larger portion sizes, less social shame on fatties – but these are all known and discussed. The relationship of the environment to metabolic disruption, diabetes, etc. is woefully underappreciated. Conversely, “people just suddenly increased their gluttony exponentially, in a way unprecedented in history” doesn’t really cut it as an explanation. Besides, if you have a *normal metabolism*, your body should be regulating what you eat in the first place, stopping you from consuming excessive calories. That it’s not for a wide swath of people indicates something is wrong.

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  217. Horatio, please stop knee jerking. Read my posts, or don’t.

    Don’t respond to an imaginary person who believes the current incarnation of fat acceptance is a good thing, or that fat people have no control whatsoever over being fat, with the right knowledge.

    The only reason I was in this conversation is to help the anti fat crowd to be less stupid than the fat acceptance crowd.

    I failed.

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  218. @ johnny five

    Nice to see you, love your blog.

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  219. There is one thing that, so far, ( and I haven’t finished all the comments yet ) no one has touched on. After a disaster, earthquake, hurricane, etc. there is three days of food in cities. Supermarkets and urban warehouses will be EMPTY after three days.

    If there is no emergency response for longer than that fat folk might have the last laugh. They’d have fat to burn, skinny folks, not so much.

    Food for thought.

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  220. @TK

    In my case, I did stop smoking (don’t miss it now, but the first 6 months were hard). I used to smoke a pack of 20 a day.

    What gets me about all these bullshit arguments put around by the fat folk is the idea that if only the rest of us knew how hard it was to exercise our willpower to achieve something so difficult as eating less….

    In terms of willpower, people often say that stopping smoking is harder than almost anything else because nicotine is addictive and cigarettes are almost engineered to be desirable.

    I stopped by going cold turkey (no patches or other nicotine replacement either). I didn’t go out socially for drinks for 2 months either. After that period, it was relatively straightforward to stay stopped.

    I actually found it pretty disgusting when I got to around a 25 bmi; i’d been living out of hotels for about a year, eating on expenses and working long hours. One day I decided, this is bullshit, i need to lose the gut. So I did. It is as simple as that, you either have the will or you don’t.

    Creating excuses doesn’t cut it.

    Maybe this is a male attitude vs. a female one which is to look for other people to take the lead for you to lose weight. I don’t honestly know. But I do find it pathetic when people aren’t willing to make the effort.

    The Ricky Gervais video clip earlier in this thread sums it up beautifully. That guy is a comic genius.

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  221. “The morbidly obese are the modern monster, a hideous deviation from the evolved human norm; they are loathsome creatures who inspire our hate and jeering. Fat people cause environmental degradation by despoiling pristine views of healthy, sexy people, and by eating more than they need to survive. Telling them to push away from the table is the green thing to do.”

    This should be the modern definition of why uber-fatties repulse the rest of us.

    There is definitely some instinctive dislike of the morbidly obese, it is more than simply the media or modern culture. The revulsion must lie deep our genes, from our past when food was scarcer, and leanness was the norm. Someone overeating would have created an imbalance in the tribal structure, or so my amateur anthropological theory goes.

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  222. Fattie, if you’re still monitoring this thread, read Protein Power, or any of the books by Dr. Michael Eades. Your main problem is you listened to misinformation and believed it, and now you think you are somehow ‘different’ in that you can’t lose weight. That is a lie. You will be able to lose weight if you follow a lo-carb, Paleo-type diet. The low fat diet you have likely tried is guaranteed to fail.
    Once you actually start losing serious weight, you will begin to reclaim your self-respect, instead of whining that people who notice the obvious lack compassion.

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  223. Obesity should not be accepted buuuuuut look a KFC double down in the face and tell it no. Impossible task. Then go run a marathon. BUT STILL

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  224. The problem with fat acceptance is the same as with most other civil “rights” movements (or supposed nationalist movements that are just masked civil “rights” groups).

    People think that they have a right to be treated civilly.

    It’s not a right. It’s a privilege. It’s a privilege whether you *think* you have equal or greater value than another person or not.

    On the fat acceptor side, you have fat folks who think they deserve to be treated well.

    On the anti fat side, you have skinny folks who think they deserve to be treated better than fat people.

    The fat people treat acceptance as if it was an object that the skinny people have exclusive possession of, that they want.

    This is a mistake.

    It’s a mistake for the same reason that Black people (men at least) asking White people to treat them fairly was a mistake.

    When people have a sort of instinctive revulsion, whether it’s rational or not, it cannot be fought. It will manifest itself somehow, and even if the people with the desired object make a show of giving it, they’ll do the equivalent of licking a lollipop before you give it to your friend, to make it undesirable or potentially harmful for them.

    Even so, if one wants to change people’s behavior, one has to approach it like the master, not the slave.

    Fat acceptors should just give up trying to get acceptance from anybody else but maybe other fat people, and use the power of their numbers to crush their opponents.

    If 60% of the country stops flying a particular airline because they make fat people pay for two seats, that airline is going down. If 60% of the country won’t vote for you because you made a fat bashing comment, you’re not going to win.

    Fat people should essentially, circle the wagons and not go with fat acceptance, but perhaps pick a name for their movement like fat activism or fat advocacy. Acceptance is too wimpy, and thought police-ish. It excludes too many fat people who don’t really accept their fat, but are fat. Fat people should all feel they are profitting from it because people are less likely to oppose something that benefits them personally. Self interest is an important factor in influence.

    Acceptance of fat will come like the acceptance of sluttiness and whorishness did. When you prod a sheep, it goes the direction you want it to, whether it likes it or not, and most will ultimately convince themselves that they like it.

    Yeah, it sounds harsh, but then you don’t really deserve better. If you don’t treat others civilly, you break the social trust and have no real psychological or moral advantage when they break out the cattle prods.

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  225. whoaa…so much hatred for fat people but have you guys ever thought how fat people actually feel ?

    I’m sure you feel awful, but why should anyone care? It’s your own fault.

    Contrary to what you think, no fat person likes to be fat, and certainly don’t enjoy being fat.

    This should be self evidently true, but given the sheer numbers of fat people, it’s hard to reconcile with reality.

    As a fat person myself, i can tell that it is F*CKING hard to lose the fat, and exercising and lifting weights is NOT possible or medically Okay for every FAT person.

    Fine, go on a starvation diet until you can. This is your Mt Everest. It is not impossible. You have two choices: get your shit together, or live a sad, lonely, unhealthy and short life.

    Besides some of us have bad genes which no matter how less we eat, it contributes to obesity.

    Biochemistry works the same throughout the universe. Genes cannot be any more than a minor factor.

    We know it make us look ugly and its saddening but when i tell you its hard to lose it, believe me.
    You just have to think of us fat people as humans too

    That would be easier if you looked like humans.

    and obesity is a disease!, its not what we choose for ourselves.

    You choose it every day by consuming more calories than you burn. It’s as simple as that. Your brain controls your hands, which in turn controls what goes into your mouth.

    Why won’t the media focus on more fucking bigger problems than obesity and educating poeple on subjects like STDs and shit,
    thats the main problem i think we have right now as more than half the population has herpes. And surprise herpes is contagious and kills, obesity doesn’t.

    The mainstream media pays little attention to fatness. This may change as more and more of you consume more and more medical resources.

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  226. Randall says, “The mainstream media pays little attention to fatness. This may change as more and more of you consume more and more medical resources.”

    The actual proportion of resources fat people are using for fat specific conditions is currently minimal. It’s so minimal that it’s clear that the “burden on resources” thing is just hype.

    That will all change with obamacare though. When the poor who are currently shut out of the system because of lack of insurance or certain things not being covered, are allowed to get free or near free weight loss drugs and surgery, you’ll be wishing for the good old days.

    Imagine a horde of overly entitled former fatties unleashed on the dating market.

    More skinny women who won’t shag you.

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  227. We get it: you think women might as well commit suicide if they are not young and hot.

    That is stupid and hateful. What we want is for you to eat less, and exercise.

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  228. Randall, you are stupid and hateful.

    So we’ll all be stupid and hateful to each other and somehow miraculously have a strong nation, right?

    Justify our hatefulness with evolutionary biology so people just give up on being kind to one another or expecting kindness from others, and not get stomped by people who get along better with each other, right?

    This would all be shocking if the same scenario hadn’t played itself out in so many fallen empires.

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  229. on October 30, 2010 at 4:03 am Steve Johnson

    randall g:

    “What we want is for you to eat less, and exercise.”

    Speak for yourself – I’m pro suicide for fatties.

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  230. […] other blogs, some support her original article, and believe that people should shame and ridicule fat people.  Some think she was overreacting, and that the obesity on television issue should be handled with […]

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  231. O Cigstache, though we have explored the manifolds of our love and, aye, the ambiguous contraceptive of the unclear penetration, I shall confess: thine form is grand, but my heart is grander still. Our love shall not die but be henceforth added to: because I am, rolypolyamorous.

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  232. […] Marie Claire Blogger Spills Truth, Fatties Erupt On Cue « Citizen Renegade. […]

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  233. About cancer analogy – it’s not true, that cancer appears suddenly, out of nowhere. Most cancers are actually slow growing (as long as 8 years), and are fueled by lifestyle choices – mainly consuming chemicals, being irradiated by X-rays or cellphones etc. So analogy to obesity is quite correct.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/030219_pancreatic_cancer_tumors.html

    Yes, there are people with bad genes, and people who got cancer by accidents (eg. Chernobyl), but this is minority. So are (by analogy) few people who do have fat-promoting genes.

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  234. Nicole

    Fat people are gross and obesity is a characther flaw. Accept it.

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  235. Gig, accept that no matter how fat and flawed someone else is, you’re still a pussy.

    “People in glass houses, should not throw stones,” princess.

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  236. ok, Nicole

    Now let’s go back to that BMI stuff

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  237. The fat women I’ve known have generally had serious psychological issues. They sort of have morbid dispositions. They don’t think they have any control over their lives. They’re often bitter….

    It’s not polite to call people fat to their face, and I can see why fat chicks flip out when a Sister tells them their not fun to look at.

    All that said, gross is gross.

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  238. Gig, let’s use a gauge that actually means something, like a mirror and a blood sugar test.

    Have you exercised anything but your right hand and your sphincter since you’ve been menstruating in my direction?

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  239. Ever remember seeing a fat POW during Veitnam. The were fed pumkin mush soup and forced to do labor when they wern’t being horribly tortured. A disease my @ss. Listen fattie…..Stop putting stuff in your mouth and turn off the screens and start moving. What a load of sh!t.

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  240. I can’t wait untill the government figures out (duh) that much of what they are using our tax money to pay for (universal healthcare) is caused by o-beast-ity.

    I can’t wait for an “overweight tax”.

    Move more. Eat less. Continue both untill the desired results are obtained.

    YGTBFSM

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  241. Boomerick, you dumbass. The “fat tax”, if it’s ever enacted, is going to be a tax on foods according to fat content. That means whole milk will have a tax, and skim milk won’t. Butter will be taxed, but the nasty toxic vomit in a tub that is fat free margerine won’t…but it won’t stop there. Your beloved corn, soy, and canola oils should be taxed too, but how much do you want to bet they won’t be?

    Don’t you see what’s going on right in front of your face? A fat tax won’t do any more to fight obesity than the “Healthy” School Lunches Act will do to fight childhood obesity.

    Michelle Obama and everybody she’s being the puppet for just want to make it cheaper for you to become a fatass. 60% isn’t enough for them. They want everybody at risk.

    In the Obamas’ case, it’s obviously “do as I say, not as I do”. They eat meat, use real butter, and are all slim. Doesn’t that tell you something?

    …but you go on picking on fat people. You’re stupid, and barbaric for the same reason they’re fat. Blind leading the blind.

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  242. Say what you want ….still…no fat POWs………

    It’s not a disease……..

    It’s a choice…….

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  243. Only an idiot would compare the two situations.

    Of course a calorie deficit will cause weight loss. I’m not the dumbass you are.

    I’m just also not enough of a dumbass to call POW’s healthy just because they were thin.

    …but for stupid people like you any kind of thin is better than any kind of fat.

    Fucktards like you are why more than half of America is overweight, and most of the rest are weaklings.

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  244. Hmmmm…….

    You might showing try the same tollerence for me …….

    That you demand me to show to the obease……

    Your true inner beauty and self (hatred) show through when you’re attacking me……..

    And…… I didn’t have anything to do with causing the fatness epidemic…….

    Weak sedintary overconsumers did it all…..

    By the way ….if you spent as much time on an eliptical as you do barfing up your inner demons on the internet you might be well on your way to curing your “disease”……

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  245. I don’t ask for tolerance, moron.

    I just ask that you use your brain. If you’re going to take on fighting obesity, do it with some intelligence.

    …though I realize that’s kind of futile.

    Self hatred is healthy when a person realizes that they are mortal.

    The weak are confident. The strong are qualified.

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  246. And when you have nothing left and your point is wrong …….

    Make up some irrelivent plattitude to try to pass your self off as clever…..

    By the way …..how can you write these comments here and contradict them in your responses to the very next post on female beauty where you tear into some other “diseased weight victim”?……..

    Hypocracy…..let see……is that for the weak or the strong or the qualified ….or for self hatred……..Hmmmmm

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  247. What comments, Boomerick?

    Have you seen me call obesity a disease? Say that fat people couldn’t do anything about being fat, with the right knowledge? Ask that anyone get over their instinctive sensitivity or disgust about the different or defective?

    Dumbass, I don’t even ask racists to not be racist. I just think if someone sees something as a problem, they should come up with a solution that’s not more fucked up than the problem.

    I understand that it’s difficult for you to imagine that a fat person (who is LOSING WEIGHT, pay attention, fucktard) could be making some kind of sense, since you’re programmed to think we’re all stupider than you, but there it is in black and white. It’s not my fault you’re a sheep whose eyes gloss over and unconsciously insert words that aren’t there.

    At this point, I’m not even in this conversation to change the minds of the sheeple. I’m making illustrations for the few independent thinkers who might come across this site of what kind of retardedness they’re dealing with.

    Those of us who are actually doing something about the problem are in a fight against those who are funding the physical implosion of our society, not with you little sheep.

    You eat shit with a silver spoon and claim it’s chocolate. So it’s not our job to change you. We have to get our people in the media to herd you in the right direction.

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  248. That should be, “So it’s not our job to change you individually.”

    You have no individuality to appeal to.

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  249. E-sizzle

    The fat women I’ve known have generally had serious psychological issues. They sort of have morbid dispositions.

    Ah, you are learning one of life’s hardest lessons. Don’t empathize too much, and be selfish with your attentions.

    Choose your friends wisely. Avoid energy sucks.

    Avoid fat chicks.

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  250. Besides, although it’s a tighter and tougher circle to break into, quality girls under your belt make it such that you both aim for and get some near misses and occasional fluke bullseyes for quality girls.

    If you aim randomly, you don’t get those fluke hits as often.

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  251. A Fattie huh

    whoaa…so much hatred for fat people but have you guys ever thought how fat people actually feel ?.

    Not only are you fat, but you’re stupid.

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  252. A.S.

    A Fattie huh

    whoaa…so much hatred for fat people but have you guys ever thought how fat people actually feel ?.

    Which is why that fat girl IS less than human. She lacks the human ability for rationality.

    Some people ARE better than others. It is better to know this without avoiding it.

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  253. Woops. Was meant to quote A.S.

    You deliberately make up a set of conditions under which you would actually lose weight that are so fantastical (magic pill) in order to convince yourself that you can’t lose weight under any other circumstances.

    Which is why that fat girl IS less than human. She lacks the human ability for rationality.

    Some people ARE better than others. It is better to know this without avoiding it.

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  254. Dogen

    Not to worry in the long run though, feminists and fat-apologists: human nature will always come out on top.

    I’m not sure if that cause for celebration or despair, but then it doesn’t much matter, does it, as that’s all human too.

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  255. @Nicole

    “TK if you don’t want my respect, then stop gunning for it.

    Stop writing as if you want me to believe that you are somehow better than me.

    You’re not even braver than me. For all I know, you’re one of those bitter White chicks trying to pass herself off as male here.

    You wouldn’t be the first.”

    Please find the exact quote that states that I am gunning for you respect. I am just having fun at your expense.

    I write the way I do, because I can. You’re envious that as a woman, you can never write on par with the editor or myself.

    What does bravery have anything to do with the issue here? But as a member of the U.S. armed forces, I am sure you are “braver” than me. It must be a traumatic experience every time you step on the scale or look into the mirror at the gross monstrosity you have become.

    Why don’t you send a picture of yourself to R and have the readers rate you on the ten point scale?

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  256. Xsplat, does that mean that it’s rational for say, me to run around saying that people who aren’t independent enough to have figured out the scam by noting the fake food promotion, fat panic, and national healthcare coming from the same party, are subhuman?

    They may not have a physical mark that is as obvious as fat (though it is in their eyes), but as soon as they open their mouths or start typing, it’s like the lambs screaming.

    Am I wrong for seeing them as human?

    Everyone has their scratch.

    I’d say that lack of empathy is a much deeper one than liking the donuts.

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  257. Personally, I don’t see what the big deal is, or maybe I just have tolerance.

    What person, besides a freak outlier fat fetishist, enjoys the sight of a fat load waddling down the street or face-smashed with another fatty in corpulent PDA?

    I don’t think “enjoy” is the right word. There are people who just don’t care. Or rather they don’t see things in such descriptive terms as you do lol.

    I really can’t imagine being grossed out seeing two fat people kiss or simply walking around (and I watch the Biggest Loser). I look at your post and I’m like “Really?”. I just can’t rile up that much passion and revulsion. It might shock me for a second, but then I’m like ok.

    Hope that made sense…..I really can’t put it to words.

    The only time I got really grossed out though is from watching those specials of people who weighed like a ton. That is GROSS!.

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  258. TK bleated, “Why don’t you send a picture of yourself to R and have the readers rate you on the ten point scale?”

    I’m not even going to tell you why you look like a fool.

    I’m just going to sit here and laugh.

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  259. […] Future Soldiers are Unfit for Duty“, “Teasing Should be Like Breathing“, “Marie Claire Blogger Spills Truth, Fatties Erupt on Cue“, “Female Beauty Ranking: The Elusive […]

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  260. Just saw a fat guy waddling as fast as he could trying to make the train. Still some gaps in the fatty urban paradise that is still subject to Darwinian forces such as during the embarkation and disembarkations of fat delivery platforms.

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  261. With regard to comments that involve why some people are so mean towards fatties, the word backlash comes to mind. I am certainly meaner than I used to be after hearing not only excuses, but hostility toward the rest of us for not finding it beautiful. One is called shallow and judgmental for not see the “inner beauty” ( That is a complete lack of discipline apparently) . Thus its simple, the rise of fat acceptance has given rise to the backlash. It also usually comes with a pack of lies typically aimed at the rest of us. One example is that it is we who are weak minded for our media influenced body image not the bottomless donut holes who can’t stop. Let’s just call it fatuous.

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  262. The Douche Baggery here is absurd. I don’t see what point you are trying to make with your criticism of fat people, you shallow fuck.

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  263. I find the presence of fat people to be neutral. I neither enjoy or dislike looking at them. I don’t even notice them half the time.

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  264. on November 4, 2010 at 11:30 am Fabio from Brazil

    [i]Rant Casey:

    But brazilian girls have more serious problems:

    – too slutty;
    – sexually lazy and pruddish;
    – dumb as fuck;
    – vulgar;
    – charmless over exposure of theyr bodies.[/i]

    Please listen to this guy’s golden words when you’re a stranger trying to hook up with a brazilian girl and don’t know that much of the brazilian society.

    Don’t tell me that you weren’t warned. 😉

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  265. on November 12, 2010 at 7:28 pm Canadian R-Man

    I am a male, 5′ 7″ and 150 pounds. I am in great (looking) shape and I don’t work out.

    Know why? Because I eat 2 meals a day. And I don’t snack. Do I get hungry? Of course!

    Although I don’t know what REAL hunger is, I hear fatties talking about how they are “totally starving” at 4pm and need a second mid-afternoon snack.

    Fucking disgusting.

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  266. [On the contrary, the best thing for her is a helpful reminder of her ugliness. Don’t want the chubby younguns growing up with unwarranted high self-esteem.]

    yep. that was me as a kid. I knew I was ugly and fat and worthless everyone reminded me of it, though I didn’t need reminding. Being a social outcast taught me kindness.

    I grew up and went on a strict diet/exercise program and dropped to a size 6. Suddenly people like me and I am successful, despite being very smart and capable all along. Also men now take an interest in me because I am slim and pretty. They usually remain interested because I am sweet and geeky.

    But I know the only reason I am valued now is because I look good. No one would ever have taken the time to see my soul without the pretty face. I kept my self-image from childhood because, as I age, I know will go back to being worthless, which is sad. But I always treat everyone well because I know how terrible it feels.

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