The Omegas Among Us

Standing on the long escalator, a small Asian woman excused herself to get by me as she strode down the descending steps briskly. Just in front of me, a family of four stood like grazing cattle on both the left and right sides of the escalator, heavily obstructing the passage of the tiny woman who was now trying to squeeze past them. As she squeaked “excuse me, excuse me” multiple times vainly searching for openings to circumnavigate the human cattle, they smirked and refused to budge and began spitting a fusillade of comments at her. “This is an escalator, not stairs.” “It’s not us that’s supposed to move, honey.” “You never ride an escalator before?” “Don’t be a little bitch, we ain’t moving for you.” “Son, just stand still, she ain’t supposed to be racing by like this.”

After a few seconds of this witty banter and threat of physical altercation, the Asian woman richoted off the man’s gut and shot out of their gauntlet of flesh. Briefly disoriented, she composed herself and resumed her jog down the escalator as the guffawing family continued flinging accusations and insults at her. When she reached the bottom she looked back up at the family, muttered something unintelligible, and flipped them a petite Asian bird. The father yelled back “fuck you bitch, you dumb bitch” then looked over his shoulder at the rest of his family and at me and my company, a vapid grin creased across his inbred face, laughing sourly as his fat sow wife and two kids took his cue and laughed along with him. His son, a boy of perhaps five, repeated his dad’s words: “yeah, you bitch!” The dad tenderly put his hand on his boy’s head and tousled his hair, and a few more “fuck”s and “bitch”s were shared in solidarity amongst the family members.

The father swiveled his head and made eye contact with me, presumably in search of proximate allies, but I didn’t give him the satisfaction of laughing with him. Instead, I curled my mouth downward and narrowed my eyes, making sure my disgust for him and his Morlockian broodclan was obvious. My eyes swooped slowly over all four of them — a white family from out of town, judging by the faint hillbilly accent I heard. There was the father with close-set eyes and a face wider than it was tall, the sweaty stringy-haired fat pig mother who wheezed with each labored breath, the little boy (a rapscallion in training no doubt), and the little girl. I sneered one word, audible enough for them to hear: “class”. There was a still moment when it seemed as if he and his wife were registering my reaction and deciding what to do about it. The father’s smile dropped and he turned back around.

Fortunately for him, he did nothing. Maybe he could read the seething contempt on my face and sensed the lurid scenario playing itself out in my mind, the visceral desire I had, given the slightest pretext, to shove his filthy loser face into the escalator machinery, ripping his eyes and mouth and flesh and sinew off the bone and kicking the fat brood sow so hard in her bloated belly she is rendered infertile, as her children mewl helplessly nearby. Yes, he made the right decision to shut his trap. He knew, on some deep level, I was his better, and he would get no succor from me.

My intuition and keen eye has guided me well in seeing the big picture. America is currently fracturing hard and deep into two, irreconcilable groups — the genetic losers and the genetic winners. And the chasm between them is growing wider, a leap from one side to the other in either direction ever more incomprehensible. I am, in my humble outpost at the cultural hinterland where PC politesse yields to the merciless attack machinery of my wrecking ball truths, turning the mirror on civilization, and stripping bare the sugar coating civil society sprinkles on our discourse and beliefs to protect losers like the family in this story from the ghastly knowledge of their own worthlessness.

There was once a time when the lower ranks of society would admire the upper ranks, and work hard, however ineffectually, to acquire the habits and virtues of the upper classes on a journey of personal betterment. There was once a time when the upper ranks understood their duty to the lower ranks, and constrained themselves publicly in an act of noblesse oblige, to serve as example for their lessers. Today, that dynamic is destroyed. The losers know they’re losers, but they no longer give a shit. They wallow in their wretchedness like pigs in mud, sticking a porky hoof up the pinched sphincter of anyone who would encourage them otherwise. The winners know they’re winners, and despite their tissue-thin rhetoric to the contrary, know that it wasn’t hard work but the luck of the DNA draw that they aren’t rolling around in the sty with the pigs and who, if you get them behind closed doors and pry liberally with truth serum, secretly believe the left hand side of the bell curve barely even qualifies as members of the same human species. So now we have two groups, staring distantly at each other across the tar pit of our shredded national identity known as pop culture, who don’t give a shit about the other, and are feverishly living their lives to guarantee that a shit will never have to be given.

If you think this is sustainable, you have only to sense the bubbling resentment surfacing not only in the urban jungle where resentment is the engine of self-delusion, but in once placid regions like small towns and college campuses, to know it is not. Soon, there will not be enough gated land behind which the elites can barricade themselves and continue peddling their hypocritical pissant platitudes. The orc hordes will swarm like locusts and devour everything in their path. Even the danegeld will lose its power to pacify, if for no other reason than that the source of funds will not keep up with the hungry multiplying maws of the beasts of chaos. If you feed it, they will come.

The West is doomed. Unfortunately, there is no rescue from this cycle of inevitability. There are solutions, but they will never be accepted, for the languor and the stasis has metastasized, an ablative bunker mentality has burrowed deep in the national psyche. And so the decline will play itself out to the bitter end, quietly or explosively, it doesn’t matter.

The past 40 years have witnessed a cognitive stratification on a scale I believe is unparalleled in American history. The unspoken philosophical forces of credentialism and good breeding, coupled with the substrate of economies requiring abstract mental prowess to successfully navigate, have never been more actively practiced than they are now, and in so blatantly a fashion to what is said to the contrary. Assortative mating is the buzzword of the moment, but more significantly it may be the one true philosophy if pragmatic adoption is any measure of truth value. Yet confront the overclass with this untidy ugly truth and you will be treated to a stream of sophistic shit so thick you’d think the actions of a genocidal regime could be happily rationalized.

Come to think of it…

When words and deeds tug so hard in opposing directions, something’s got to give. The center cannot hold. And so, because I am a blessed humanitarian, here is my patented solution for saving America:

  1. Build a wall at the southern border and kick out the last 30 years’ worth of de facto invaders, and cut off all immigration for two generations. It makes zero sense to add more misery to an already growing and spiteful underclass.
  2. Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women.

That’s it. A wall is cheap to build when compared to the costs of maintaining a military presence in a third world tribal cesspool. And upper class alpha males used to fuck and breed with their hot secretaries until said secretaries began going to college and getting higher paying jobs. Now, because of peer pressure, social finger wagging, or expedience, alpha males have forsaken fucking hot lower class women in favor of co-worker lawyer cunts, and the result has been a ghettoization of the genetic misfits to breed exclusively among themselves. Spread that upper class alpha seed around and you begin to rebuild the common mission and shared trust of a nation, one recombined double helix at a time.

In the meantime, I’m arranging my life in such a way that I minimize the amount of time spent in the company of losers. They’re fucking depressing.





Comments


  1. Was the father wearing a Glen Beck Tshirt?

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  2. The orc hordes will swarm like locusts and devour everything in their path.

    What makes you think robotics and biotechnology can not deal with this threat?

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  3. on November 3, 2009 at 3:36 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    They were here for a Tea Party no doubt.

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  4. Sympathy is truly such a lost art.

    Rednecks are the greatest contributors to urban decay.

    You’d never see such shocking behavior in a diverse hood

    just sayin’

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  5. The unspoken philosophical forces of credentialism and good breeding

    What libtards and Randroids obsfucate as “rugged individualism, can-do-mentality, pulling-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps, and self-reliance”

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  6. coupled with the substrate of economies requiring abstract mental prowess to successfully navigate

    Unfortunately a part of that substrate is the wealth-TRANSFERRING class of the financial sector that has fucked this country big time. All dem Joos with their clever little financial schemes.

    I’m sure it was good for them, though.

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  7. Holy cow. That was a Howitzer of a post. I’ll need a day or two to take it all in. I think you make a lot of interesting points.

    One thing for sure, the social lubricant of good manners in public have most definitely been in decline for the past 40 years. I believe it has been a result of the many larger themes underling the politically correct culture that you often touch upon. I applaud your actions; wish I could have seen it.

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  8. That Orc family is the triumph of walmart capitalism and socialist deracination.

    In another time and place, they would have been solid frontiersmen with sturdy young men and pretty daughters.

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  9. on November 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm Horatio Sanchez

    What’s with the influx of HuffPro acolytes? Did Biting Beaver direct a troll party over here?

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  10. on November 3, 2009 at 3:50 pm gunslingergregi

    Sometimes the diverse hood comes to you though and that white bitch gonna pay.

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  11. At least the orc family had a father and legitimate children.

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  12. on November 3, 2009 at 3:51 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    God fucking damnit, I have to deal with those types of assholes every day. Diabetic, multi-chinned, trailer park-dwelling, high school dropout orbs of flab who suck down welfare dollars and think they’re entitled to the world because they’re so awesome. Somebody needs to kick them in the face and let them know their place. A thousand curses on democracy.

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  13. PA:

    That Orc family is the triumph of walmart capitalism and socialist deracination.

    How do you figure deracination affected their appearance and demeanor?

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  14. What is the point of smart people breeding with dumber people (hot or not)? It just dilutes the smart genes. Even back in the day, the secretary was usually smart, well-educated, from a good family. Secretary was as high as she was allowed to rise, so she made do with that. No women that can do better, do better, career-wise. It doesn’t make any sense to go after secretaries now, because it shows a lack of education and ambition, traits you don’t want passed on to the next generation.

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  15. “In the meantime, I’m arranging my life in such a way that I minimize the amount of time spent in the company of losers. They’re fucking depressing.”

    Great move.

    I always seem to be happier in the company of beautiful foreign women.

    Wine, cigarettes and a subdued environment.

    I think I will do that tonight.

    – MPM

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  16. Tupac: part of deracination is becoming a godless consumerist slob who does not identify with anything higher than his crude apetities and who has nothign to look forward to in life or his children’s lives, so his energies are channeled toward being aggressive or merely annoying to others. Deracination also assumes the loss of a traditional community to whose standards of behavior one has to conform.

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  17. gunslingergregi

    Sometimes the diverse hood comes to you though and that white bitch gonna pay.

    nah, you never see diverse peoples turn the tables at a bodega or a streetcorner partystore in the hood.

    i’ve never seen it in the media

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  18. on November 3, 2009 at 3:58 pm ironrailsironweights

    At least the orc family had a father and legitimate children

    And the wife probably had a GNP.

    Peter

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  19. on November 3, 2009 at 3:59 pm gunslingergregi

    ””””’ trailer park-dwelling, high school dropout orbs of flab who suck down welfare dollars and think they’re entitled to the world because they’re so awesome.”””””

    No the welfare dollar draining people do not live in trailer parks. They live in nice freshly painted apartment complexes with brand new carpet and painted walls. Trailers aren’t good enough for welfare mothers.

    People in trailer parks paying their own way.

    And it probably is pretty awesome to be able to buy your very own place to live for 4500 bucks.

    Like roissy was saying the hate of the poor.

    Oh well.

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  20. PA

    In another time and place, they would have been solid frontiersmen

    female Azns usually have such impeccable manners when driving – and especially in shopping malls.

    Back then, you’d never see one push her way toward the Gingham and bear traps at the mercantile store in town.

    They’d meekly await their turn as the uncouth rednecks shouted rude slurs.

    I saw it in
    Billy Jack

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  21. I see nothing to suggest that the actions of this family were based on genetics. The same family, brought up under different conditions, could easily have been productive members of society. Rednecks are more a cultural problem than a genetic one.

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  22. a sharp-eyed reader will note that this omega family has two kids… and i have none.

    ps this is a big picture post. C.H.U.D.s are found in all races, though of course they are found more in some races than in others, but that is an issue for another day.

    pps by spreading the alpha seed around, i mean that alpha males need to get back to the root of what makes them happy — fucking and loving cute chicks, no matter what class those girls hail from. i do not mean a government approved program to blend white america into a bongo-beating Zion on the hill while the elites hypocritically maintain their genetic exclusivity.

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  23. You have to stand on ONE side of the escalator. Jesus Christ.

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  24. i’m down with eugenics. i’m cool with firebombing too.

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  25. THE ATTACK OF THE BLOBS!!

    Thank you. This story made my day.

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  26. on November 3, 2009 at 4:11 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Gunslingergregi:

    No the welfare dollar draining people do not live in trailer parks. They live in nice freshly painted apartment complexes with brand new carpet and painted walls. Trailers aren’t good enough for welfare mothers.

    Trust me, dude, there’s a whole contingent of parasites living in trailer parks, suckling from the public tit and breeding like worms. You have to live on the edge of redneck country, like I do, in order to see them.

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  27. One thing for sure, the social lubricant of good manners in public have most definitely been in decline for the past 40 years.

    People on this side of the Pacific tend to think that I am a pushover because I tend to be polite and self-effacing in public. I do not have this problem when I am in any of the East Asian countries.

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  28. on November 3, 2009 at 4:14 pm gunslingergregi

    But don’t you think the hate might really come from the fact the poor can just work hard and it is no big deal to them to live in a 4500 dollar trailer and have the same spending money as the upper class?

    I mean really how many upper class are there with three million millionaires in us.

    Ya used to hear it all the time people saying they could barely live on 80k. lol

    Was checking unemployment figures and doctors making 4 times more than average. So basically a couple could work double the norm and make the same as a doctor. Except they wouldn’t have to live in the big houses that a doctor needs to live in. They could buy the 4500 dollar trailer and have very low bills. Plus buy cheap cars because no ones gonna give a shit what they drive. Works there asses off and get to the point where it is no longer required.

    ””””Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women. ””””’

    Really guys just need to work with what they get to become free. All the status whoring is bullshit. I mean everyone in my extended family went to college but I am the only one I know of that could have retired at 32.

    And seriously I am at the point where any woman I got with I feel like I could turn her into a freedom creating machine.

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  29. on November 3, 2009 at 4:15 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea but ferdinand to my knowledge trailers don’t meet the standard for hud qualification.

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  30. Trust me, dude, there’s a whole contingent of parasites living in trailer parks, suckling from the public tit and breeding like worms. You have to live on the edge of redneck country, like I do, in order to see them.

    There’s also a massive amount of the type that gun speaks of. Government provided low-income housing/rents, combined with welfare/TANF/etc does not a model citizen make.

    Not to mention, those people are the most likely to have more than 2 kids per household.

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  31. The concept of “class” transcends many racial, ethnic, economic, and IQ lines.

    I’d take in David Alexander and kick some white-trash trailer-park WHIGGER out of this country any day.

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  32. софиа

    You have to stand on ONE side of the escalator. Jesus Christ.

    humph. not i
    whenever i’m in Asia
    I just walk up n’ down the escalator as I please.

    Those fine asian women never say a thing.
    they just let me do as i please
    without a peep
    bc i’m american

    the least we can do is the same for them

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  33. Tupac Chopra

    The concept of “class” transcends many racial, ethnic, economic, and IQ lines.

    I’d take in David Alexander and kick some white-trash trailer-park WHIGGER out of this country any day.

    that’s unfair
    he probably gives better foot massage

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  34. You have to stand on ONE side of the escalator. Jesus Christ.

    SRSLY. They ever ride an escalator before?

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  35. on November 3, 2009 at 4:23 pm Ferdinand Bardamu

    Gunslingergregi:

    Yea but ferdinand to my knowledge trailers don’t meet the standard for hud qualification.

    I wasn’t referring to HUD specifically, but welfare in general – food stamps, wage subsidies and the like. But the assholes in the projects have my ire too.

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  36. Oh, Roissy, thank you for confirming that I am not the only person who daydreams in Violent Technicolor when I see such filth.

    One of my nicknames is “Inertial Dampener”, because people tend to avoid the fisticuffs when I’m around. Ah, the blessings of a well-proportioned face and being built like a tank.

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  37. The ficitonal thing about you glaring at orc family for bullying the Asian girl makes up for all gina tingles lost in the previous post. White knighting is divine when performed by a man who’s ordinarily rakish.

    “Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women.

    You sure? I’m thinking high IQ betas + low class women would be better. Intelligent alpha progeny might make for a class of reckless bastards who are intelligent enough to do real damage.

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  38. on November 3, 2009 at 4:24 pm gunslingergregi

    The chick I am with pays her own shit but yea she has a slew of woman she knows that all have have kids all have the free rent.

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  39. on November 3, 2009 at 4:25 pm The Fifth Horseman

    Don’t forget sperm donors and sperm banks as a countering genetic force.

    Each male sperm donor has 10+ biological offspring across 10 women, and each donor is selected for IQ, height, longevity, family health history, etc.

    Abuse of this leads to Octomom situations, but the genes are still better than those of men of that class.

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  40. on November 3, 2009 at 4:26 pm gunslingergregi

    Well make sure that ire is not for the guys since they don’t get shit but a hundred bucks. It is the female princess that gets enough to live.

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  41. Move to Sweden and stay out of the muslim neighborhoods. Almost no trash in the American sense.

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  42. There was once a time when the upper ranks understood their duty to the lower ranks, and constrained themselves publicly in an act of noblesse oblige, to serve as example for their lessers.

    Interestingly, Fareed Zakaria argues in The Future of Freedom that it is the elites which have lost their sense of obligation to society and in so doing, precipitated the cultural decay of the country. I tend to agree with this but this has to be coupled with the failure of social welfare programs. The lower classes, whose immediate needs have been satiated by the largesse of government social programs and welfare, are now devoid of meaningful goals and model citizens. The upper classes are only interested in consumerism, leisure, or fame. You’ve got a society in which most aspire to be a famous ass clown. How do you build a society with people like that? Truth be told, if you want to change this country meaningfully you don’t start by building a wall (although it might help), it has to start from the inside with a fundamental change in its structure. Institute an accountable class system, do away with social welfare programs, reform the legal system (including family courts and divorce), immigration control, taxation, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Sadly, I think it’s too late.

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  43. Well, you import millions of Third Worlders, you get a Third World country.

    You export millions of good paying jobs, you get millions of people shopping at WalMart.

    You put stupid, empty, and vainglorious programming on television, you get a population of stupid, empty, and vainglorious people.

    Of course the US will collapse in the near future. The experiment has gone horribly, horribly wrong.

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  44. Ferdinand Bardamu

    You have to live on the edge of redneck country, like I do, in order to see them.

    Some people are so fortunate to have that Buffer Zone.

    Like Romans had Ostrogoth for Huns.

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  45. 1. Build a wall at the southern border and kick out the last 30 years’ worth of de facto invaders, and cut off all immigration for two generations. It makes zero sense to add more misery to an already growing and spiteful underclass.
    2. Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women.

    How exactly does either of these conclusions follow from the preceding story? The low-class slobs in question were white, and they’d still be boorish losers even if we got rid of every last invader (not that I have a problem with that btw). Does conclusion two mean that once we kick out the invaders, the white upper classes must try to outbreed the white lower-class slobs?

    Note that either of these programs is, in a practical sense, inconsistent with democracy. The invaders and the slobs can outvote the alphas who want to keep them out and keep their appetites in check.

    Rome’s gonna fall. Enjoy the circuses while they last.

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  46. While asian women tend to be pushy (at least the ones not born here), she was in the right this time. You stand to the right on the escalator and let people walk on the left.

    As far as the rednecks go, right now they may be worthless, but 50 or 100 years ago they would have had God, country, and some manual labour to keep them in line and make them useful citizens. I guess you could say the same thing about many blacks these days. The left has sold them all out big time.

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  47. I feel that the “loss of duty” was established once the courts started penalizing people for random shit.

    Nowadays, one has to wonder whether one should “interfere” when one can be of service.

    When a little boy is about to fall to the ground in front of you, the thought that comes to mind now is “What will others think?” instead of “let me help this poor little boy.”

    So, instead of helping the little turd out, you have to hold back because if a grown man helps out a little boy he is no doubt a pedophile looking to drug the kid with Quaalude and jump ship to France after he spoils the poor boys behind.

    Basically, our sense of duty was lost when we had to think of our duty in the cost/benefit sense. If I help/interfere, I may go to jail or face public scrutiny.

    The weak have ruined this country.

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  48. on November 3, 2009 at 4:39 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    “Of course the US will collapse in the near future.”

    “Rome’s gonna fall. Enjoy the circuses while they last.”

    People were saying the same thing 100 ago and they’ll be saying it 100 years from now.

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  49. This is one of the few times when I’d have to say playing the Hitler card would not be overreacting.

    I sure hope when you all bring about your social movement for social cleaning that the foot soldiers recognize you as one of the good ones. It would be a damn shame is yet another fickle movement to improve society through organized force snatched you up along the way.

    But nah. You’re all ready to be weighed in the balance, right? Nobody can find fault with you. It’s not like people have been executed for having reading glasses (Khmer Rouge), physical disabilities (many witch trials), unpopular religious views (where do we begin that list) or the wrong colors eyes (Nazi Germany).

    We all despise some of the people we meet on the street, but I can assure you that no movement can fix society without coming up with crackpot evaluation methods that sweep up the people you like right along with the people you hate. roissy has just as much chance of being a victim of that as the fat father he hates so much.

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  50. This is an all-too familiar occurrence in dc….i get really tired of watching this shit. can’t wait to move westward!

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  51. carp:

    Westward is no better. This is a national issue. Roissy is onto something here.

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  52. on November 3, 2009 at 4:45 pm The Stay at Home Voter

    This is one of the few times when I’d have to say playing the Hitler card would not be overreacting.

    Probably not. Because those are our choices at this point. Fascism or barbarianism.

    If you can think of a democratic way out of this mess, I’m sure we’d all like to hear it.

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  53. carp

    “This is an all-too familiar occurrence in dc….i get really tired of watching this shit. can’t wait to move westward!”

    Get ready for a whole new slew of problems.

    – MPM

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  54. I don’t agree with the anti-immigrant tenor here. Sure, I’d prefer that immigration be limited and better regulated (we should especially welcome highly educated immigrants), but the fact is that most immigrants work really fucking hard in the U.S. If I want a job done on my house, I’ll call some Mexicans or Salvadorans, because they’ll work hard for cheap, and be happy to have the work. I’d rather be surrounded by hard-working immigrants than some listless and shuffling native-born dreck. Too many Americans have become slothful and born with a sense of entitlement, because they’ve never known deprivation the way most immigrants have. Affluence is hurting the U.S. more than immigration is.

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  55. on November 3, 2009 at 4:46 pm Seeking Alpha

    Gee, did Tupac attempt to goad me in two successive posts. Jews and libertarians, back to back. Overeager if you ask me.

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  56. on November 3, 2009 at 4:47 pm gunslingergregi

    Yea wonka that is why I look at the whole western example as one to modify completely.

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  57. “Too many Americans have become slothful and born with a sense of entitlement, because they’ve never known deprivation the way most immigrants have. Affluence is hurting the U.S. more than immigration is.”

    Interesting point.

    We have become a nation of sissy’s.

    It is really pathetic.

    Back in the days when we were tough: http://www.corbisimages.com/images/BE001089.jpg?size=67&uid=906A216B-0D85-4CB0-92A9-D481E5C2947C

    – MPM

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  58. on November 3, 2009 at 4:51 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ Stay At Home Voter

    If you can think of a democratic way out of this mess, I’m sure we’d all like to hear it.

    Roll back the right to vote. Almost certainly impossible but that’s how you have a democracy that works.

    Restrict to land owners, net tax payers, veterans (a la Starship Troopers), etc.

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  59. Roissy, your eugenicist classism outweighed your racism and misogyny in this particular instance.

    I see that some of your fans are perplexed by this. Maybe it’s dawning on some of them that, rather than being their champion of mythopoetic white male pride, you are simply an overprivileged misanthrope.

    In your case, the rationalization of that misanthropy is a simpleton distortion of evolutionary ecology called HBD. HBD is the Nazism of Jews who think of themselves as white above all else, Asians who hate other minorities, self-styled “pick-up artists,” and nerds who are too fancy to join the Hammerskins. HBD is the flavor of the month for misogynistic, racist geeks who would otherwise be into tentacle hentai.

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  60. “I’m arranging my life in such a way that I minimize the amount of time spent in the company of losers. They’re fucking depressing.”

    I adopted this myself as part of this year’s “Change Everything” motif. It is quite refreshing. I find myself happier, more relaxed, and smiling a lot more.

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  61. Roissy, your eugenicist classism outweighed your racism and misogyny in this particular instance.

    I see that some of your fans are perplexed by this. Maybe it’s dawning on some of them that, rather than being their champion of mythopoetic white male pride, you are simply an overprivileged misanthrope.

    In your case, the rationalization of that misanthropy is a simpleton distortion of evolutionary ecology called HBD.

    labels to the left of me.
    labels to the right.
    here i am.
    stuck in the middle again.

    all that matters is this:
    is it true or is it false?

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  62. IT’S TRUE MFERS!!!!!

    one of most important roissy points driven home to me by recent experiences (past 4 years) of moving to Los Angeles

    PROXIMITY + DIVERSITY = CLASS WAR

    READ IT AND WEEP YOU FKING RETARDS. IT’S TRUE

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  63. LOL @ “morlockian”

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  64. Back when I lived over in Alexandria I did have an altercation with the so-called lower classes. Some redneck idiot took offense at my reprimand of another redneck that was holding up a simple seating arrangement at a restaurant.

    Now the stupidity of it all would have been evident to any observer. In those days I was built — as in chiseled abs and 20-inch arms and a lat spread to make pussy wet. This ball of flab thought he could do something and had to hit him twice. The nose flattening wasn’t enough so I put every bit of strength into a punch which probably caved in 3 ribs on his left side. Went down like a ton of bricks.

    And yes, the violence both appalled and excited my date. The sex that night was worth the altercation and the police report.

    This is what the suicidal half of the bell curve doesn’t get. If me my equivalents and betters, to steal a phrase, were to decide to wipe out the other half, exactly what chance would they have of survival — we’re faster, stronger, smarter, richer, healthier. I’m in my late 40’s and still pulling a threesome when the spirit moves me.

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  65. Read 1984 again (or for the first time). We are heading into a world very much like it portrays complete with totalitarian governments and proles. I foresee that Roissy will be maneuver himself into being a member of the inner party if not Big Brother’s right hand alpha.

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  66. “all that matters is this:
    is it true or is it false?”

    I am quite certain that within a few years the 100,000 Year Explosion’s thesis of racial divergence through accelerated selection will be debunked. Already the cracks are showing. And Bruce Lahn’s microcephalin/ASPM model has been completely demolished (really; look it up). Without the trendiness of 10K Explosion and Lahn’s failure you’ll once again be left with embarrasingly unsophisticated and outmoded fare like Rushton’s junk science and John R. Baker’s Race.

    As for ‘human biodiversity’ and sex, do try to keep up. The field has moved on in the last three decades. In contrast, what you’ve been parroting is a seventies porn ‘stache version of sociobiology.

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  67. In the best traditions of DELIVERANCE,
    rather than “Class”,
    I would have bellowed out
    “Squeal like a pig”.

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  68. I am quite certain that within a few years the 100,000 Year Explosion’s thesis of racial divergence through accelerated selection will be debunked.

    your certainty is breathtaking.

    Already the cracks are showing. And Bruce Lahn’s microcephalin/ASPM model has been completely demolished (really; look it up).

    you do realize one mistaken and peripheral hypothesis does not a certainty to the contrary make?

    Without the trendiness of 10K Explosion and Lahn’s failure you’ll once again be left with embarrasingly unsophisticated and outmoded fare like Rushton’s junk science and John R. Baker’s Race.

    are you a betting man?

    As for ‘human biodiversity’ and sex, do try to keep up. The field has moved on in the last three decades. In contrast, what you’ve been parroting is a seventies porn ’stache version of sociobiology.

    the great thing about human sociosexuality is this:
    i get older but the theory explains the same reality.
    brah!

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  69. LILGRL,

    Perhaps they were so fat their bodies extended to the entirety of both escalator lanes? In that case, they should be taking the stairs.

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  70. “Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me”

    Went pretty well, didn’t it?

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  71. Went pretty well, didn’t it?

    it’s the thought that counts.
    until it doesn’t.
    woops!

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  72. G Manifesto: “Back in the days when we were tough: http://www.corbisimages.com/images/BE001089.jpg?size=67&uid=906A216B-0D85-4CB0-92A9-D481E5C2947C

    Wouldn’t most of those guys be immigrants (albeit white ones), too, though? I think I see my mick immigrant grandpappy in there somewhere. A U2 song comes to mind…

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  73. “What do you think of this story of Wife cheating on rich, multimillionaire Husband with a SERBIAN punk and the husband valiantly standing by her wife?”

    Jasmin Osmanic? Not Serbian, but Bosnian Muslim.

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  74. Sofia,
    These fat cunts wouldn’t even have let Jesus Christ himself past them.
    They would have mistaken him for a “bearded leftie long-hair o’er here from from out kal-li-for-nia way”.

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  75. Wouldn’t most of those guys be immigrants (albeit white ones), too, though?

    here’re a couple points about immigrants that so many people forget when discussing the matter:

    one, the country was emptier and less cognitively demanding back then and needed the strong arms and backs more than it does now.

    two, immigrants are not cut from the same mold. past performance of certain immigrant groups is no guarantee of future results from current immigrant groups.

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  76. Who am I to begrudge you your ‘big fish in a little pond’ infamy as the Tucker Max of the pseudointellectual racist blogosphere?

    I could just be patient and wait for the HBD circlejerkosphere to follow microcephalin and 10K down the toilet, half-remembered as a baffling ’00s fad like Truck Nutz and Snuggies.

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  77. Um. eugenics is bad.

    Anyway, shitbag tourists need to understand that this is a working city. People walk left, stand right. Instead of insulting the rubes, people in other cities like London actually say that in a business like fashion. Good for Roissy for some demonstration of distaste. Most men in this city are too frail for that kind of stuff.

    Drdrdrdr, I would wager that these inbreeds were a SEIU family on their way to beat up teapartiers.

    There are two Americas, it seems, those who work and take care of themselves and those whose only aspiration is a no-show union job (and their union thug bosses).

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  78. pseudointellectual racist blogosphere?

    do you really think this will work in my thunderdome of guilt-free sadism?

    half-remembered as a baffling ’00s fad like Truck Nutz and Snuggies.

    you sound nervous.

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  79. Um. eugenics is bad.

    is dog breeding bad?

    ps what about voluntary eugenics?

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  80. on November 3, 2009 at 5:38 pm Dave from Hawaii

    Read 1984 again (or for the first time). We are heading into a world very much like it portrays complete with totalitarian governments and proles.

    Now go read Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World.

    We are headed towards a combination of the dystopia’s portrayed by both Huxley and Orwell.

    Hell, we’re pretty much already there.

    This post by Roissy is what i term “sheeple” watching.

    These fat, uncivilized sows are the deliberate results of social engineering. Their uncouth mannerisms, discourtesy and lack of social grace, as well as their slovenly, disgustingly overweight physical state are the direct result of sheeple living according to the dictates of what they watch on their Tell-a-Visions every single day of their miserable lives.

    Crass, vulgar humor openly and proudly declared in a public venue? Complete disregard for a fellow citizen who politely requested a small deed of courtesy? Completely self-centered narcissism and a lack of shame? These are sheeple programmed by mass media entertainment…and they are too stupid and brainwashed to even realize it.

    When I observe these sorts of people — and believe me, we got plenty of these types here in Hawaii as well — I can almost here the bleating in my mind.

    B-a-a-a-a-a.

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  81. That’s the problem with atheists. If we are just a bunch of monkies, then yeah, human life isn’t that precious and the elite may decide to weed ’em out. So, I’ll ignore your larger point and just assume that these are feral humans who somehow missed the finer lessons of our civilization.

    “Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” does not mean yearning to freeload. That’s the difference.

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  82. Actually, this is very very good writing. I don’t agree with everything written but this is probably your best essay yet.

    Now about that family,
    If the father is teaching his son to talk that way to adults in public, God forbid what he says to him when they are home. As a father, he fails. The reason the father wouldn’t talk to you like that is because you’re a big guy and could give him a decent fist fight. The small Asian woman could not.

    Had that been a Jason Giambi, Ray Lewis or Dolph Lundgren looking guy trying to walk past the family, you think they would’ve uttered curse words. I wonder if the father would’ve laid into roissy had he try to pass the family after the Asian woman walked pass them. I doubt it.

    Thank God for white knighting. I like that you took up for the Asian woman in your own way. Don’t believe Whiskey guys, many women like white knighting.

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  83. I have a question for the forum members: I have this FB that I have had over to my apartment twice. She is 22 and I am 35. She looks good, probably a 7 or 8. So tonight I send her a text and say “Daddy is ready for you”

    She replies: “Im sorry. I really had a lot of fun with you.

    I reply: “lol. Are you breaking up with me?”

    And that was it. Does this mean no more booty calls?

    Thanks for your help.

    [editor: short answer — yes. she likely found another guy. i’d steer clear of the “daddy” talk outside of any context other than during actual penetration. also, the “lol” and the followup question was beta. it smacks of “she got to me”. you have no choice but to cease all contact. there is a small chance you may hear from her in a couple months, but don’t bet on it.]

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  84. on November 3, 2009 at 5:45 pm Seeking Alpha

    “Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,” does not mean yearning to freeload. That’s the difference.

    Well put!

    [editor: unfortunately for your unihumanity fantasy, some people can’t help but freeload.]

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  85. Move to Sweden and stay out of the muslim neighborhoods. Almost no trash in the American sense

    But the taxes the taxes and the socialism.

    DF You’ve got a society in which most aspire to be a famous ass clown.

    Cosign. The media is a big culprit in the downfall of American culture. Stop giving face time to people like Paris Hilton and Kim K. I’d argue that giving heavy fines to businesses that employee illegal residents would hurt more(&faster) than building a fence.

    Wonka roissy has just as much chance of being a victim of that as the fat father he hates so much

    Doubt it. The small Asian would isn’t seen as much of a threat in the same way that the much taller and heavier Roissy is. Most People try only those who they think they can take on.

    Anon me my equivalents and betters, to steal a phrase, were to decide to wipe out the other half, exactly what chance would they have of survival — we’re faster, stronger, smarter, richer, healthier

    Well they have guns guns guns and more guns and being poor, feel like they have nothing to lose. I don’t think you understand the hardness that comes from growing up poor in a dysfunctional family.

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  86. [America is currently fracturing hard and deep into two, irreconcilable groups — the genetic losers and the genetic winners. And the chasm between them is growing wider, a leap from one side to the other in either direction ever more incomprehensible.] – Roissy

    As you yourself commented Roissy the man has at least two children and you have none.

    Who is the genetic looser?

    [editor: the taxpayer.]

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  87. on November 3, 2009 at 5:52 pm Seeking Alpha

    [editor: unfortunately for your unihumanity fantasy, some people can’t help but freeload.]

    Tough to freeload if there is no social security, medicare, medicaid, SCHIP, welfare, etc., etc.

    [editor: true. but are you prepared to see losers starve in the streets? i am.]

    In an ideal world (for arguments sake) immigration wouldn’t be much of a problem if there wasn’t any ability to freeload.

    [this ideal world would have to postulate that evolution stopped at the neck up.]

    But it’s not an ideal world.

    Until it is, it’s probably better to prevent further unskilled immigration until strict tests are put in place to prevent non-citizens from gaining access to these services.

    [a 40 year moratorium is simpler.]

    I’m certainly becoming less and less pro-immigration each year.

    [my good works are infectious!]

    Have hope. I used to be pro-choice (reflexively) until I actually gave the matter some thought as an adult.

    [i don’t have a problem with abortion, but i have reconsidered my view that it helps cut back the fecundity of the criminal and stupid.]

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  88. Inferior people have not only lost the shame of being inferior, but they’ve lost even the recognition of their inferiority. The society, with it’s “self esteem” to all crap feeds into this.

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  89. I like that, unihumanity fantasy. Anyway, poor, ugly, stupid people can still be good, well-behaved members of society. And the scions of the elite can still end up useless and act worse than tards. Is it the widening gap between the two ends of bell curve or is it the end of western society?

    [editor: the poor, ugly and stupid commit more of the kind of misbehavior that can end their lives, or yours, in a heartbeat. the scions of the elite commit more of the kind of misbehavior that can crater a successfully running society over many decades, such as letting in too many of the poor ugly and stupid.]

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  90. The Asian was rude. Do Asians not know the proper etiquette required for escalator safety? Shame she did not trip and fall and break her neck.

    Frankly, she deserved a bitch slap.

    You are missing the bigger picture. Yes the redneck family had no manners but neither did the Asian bitch.

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  91. on November 3, 2009 at 5:59 pm Seeking Alpha

    [editor: true. but are you prepared to see losers starve in the streets? i am.]

    Of course. Not my problem. And I’d assume charities, mostly churches, would prevent that. I assume you’re okay with that, right?

    [editor: no skin off my nose. but naturally i’ll be poolside.]

    [i don’t have a problem with abortion, but i have reconsidered my view that it helps cut back the fecundity of the criminal and stupid.]

    That’s not surprising. I view it as a moral issue. I know you’re not a fan of those.

    [i was thinking more along the lines of materialist incentives. it’s arguable that abortion, because it provides a nifty escape hatch for any unfortunate mistakes, actually encourages more of the risky contraceptive-free sex that results in brood sows pumping out litters of parasites.]

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  92. And on the immigration issue, it’s a matter of one party essentially repopulating this country with a group of people that through no fault of their own, have little or no understanding of this country’s background and values…they only know which party to blindly vote for.

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  93. The Belmont Club had a post on how this was the Labour Party’s plan in the UK for the past decade or two…that “Labour intentionally flooded Britain with immigrants in order to gain a permanent political majority.”

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  94. Who am I to begrudge you your ‘big fish in a little pond’ infamy as the Tucker Max of the pseudointellectual racist blogosphere?

    Racist, racist, racist!!! Oh NO!!!!! That’s just too horrible to hear!!

    Go stuff your taboos against truth telling and puncturing pretty lies.

    Bruce Lahn’s microcephalin/ASPM model has been completely demolished (really; look it up).

    That particular theory of Lahn’s was always tentative, and not remotely a cornerstone of Human Bio Diversity.

    What’s been demolished is the left’s fairy tale that there hasn’t been time for any significant racial variation to have occurred, since the major races diverged. That’s been shown to be utter hogwash. Further there is lots of divergence in a variety of areas. Radical environmentalism is absurd on it’s face, actually, for those with any understanding of genetic variation in humans.

    The existence of major geographic races is real and there are real differences between them. To claim that saying so is “racist” only makes a mockery of the word “racist”. Either the “truth” can’t be racist, or everyone should be “racist” enough to follow the truth. Your secular religious beliefs to the contrary are what are crumbling, with accelerating speed now. The internet makes censorship or near censorship and much punishment for incorrect views, so much more difficult.

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  95. on November 3, 2009 at 6:12 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ editor – So as usual we’re not that far off. Looking forward to the day we grab drinks in DC.

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  96. “pps by spreading the alpha seed around, i mean that alpha males need to get back to the root of what makes them happy — fucking and loving cute chicks, no matter what class those girls hail from.”

    but how can they do that if social mores and such dictate that monogamy is the way to go? you’re advocating polygyny. i’m not opposed to that, but it leaves a lot of men unattached. *this* is the reason for western decline. there’s no way out of this trap. we’re fucked whether we advocate for alpha males looking over harems of women and their offspring, and we’re equally so if we advocate for betas and omegas to have almost equal shots at raising broods of children. in the latter scenario, alpha males will double-bag their condoms, picking the petal from the flower and leaving the seeds.

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  97. I’m divided on this post. The hillbillies should have made way and signaled their disapproval with cold hard stares, but most of the escalators in the malls in my area urge people NOT to pass others. It is annoying having move aside on some of the smaller ones for people rushing by, especially if you’re carrying an item or two. I mean, do you really need to shave 10 seconds off your trip to the Cinnabon or the Gap? Yeah, on those concourse escalators in the airports, you should stand on the right and walk on the left, but those go on for 1/4 mile. With a mall escalator, we’re talking about–what?–20, 30 maybe 40 feet?

    The redneck could have expressed it better, but he was right. If you’re in such a hurry, use the goddammed stairs.

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  98. I had a complimentary experience this weekend to yours.

    I spent Halloween weekend with my sister in ex-urban Philadelphia. My sister has 3 kids and both my bro-in-law and my sister have PhDs in engineering and have high-paying corporate jobs. They have 3 beautiful kids who excel in school and who listen and clean their rooms. They live in a huge house on a street of huge houses in rural Pennsylvania which is leafy and gorgeous in the fall.

    I watched my 9-year old nephew play soccer on a drizzly Sunday morning. The other parents were like my sister and bro-in-law, educated and affluent from corporate jobs. Everyone was nice. Even the multitude of pets were well-behaved. I won’t say there weren’t fat people, but there weren’t any fat kids, even on the sidelines. Also, everyone was white, except one hispanic kid.

    I spent some of the game talking to a guy about how he was restoring a 140-year old farmhouse. My sister also talked to me about how she thought some of my nieces classmates were “slutty” and that the women were thinking of ways to isolate their daughters from them.

    Though they probably would never admit it, their strategy is the same as Roissy’s. Move the fuck out the city and get away from the losers. They don’t vote that way, but that’s the way they live.

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  99. Oh boy, this is one of those posts that is gonna get to be too much. My take – some of you guys are really mean. I think Roissy’s response was appropriate, yes. But I have some sympathy for that crass family. Sounds like they felt painfully aware of being hicks in the city. They were probably overcompensating. Which is sad because who cares if you fit in with smarty @$$ big city folks. That fat, unhealthy and entitled family in some ways is just responding to the current culture of me me me, and showing off, and thinking you are ok just the way you are. This is a complex issue… Some “hick” families are actually pretty decent, friendly, warm and God-loving people. And I’m saying this as a minority who probably looks like a potential tarrist in terms of my coloring. Environment can overcome genetics many times. If this family can afford to take a vacation to DC they have the intellectual capacity to have become better people too.

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  100. But I have some sympathy for that crass family. Sounds like they felt painfully aware of being hicks in the city. They were probably overcompensating.

    in my less testosterone-y moments, i would have sympathy for this point of view.

    Some “hick” families are actually pretty decent, friendly, warm and God-loving people.

    they are. so the larger culture should be lifting these folks up and patting them on the back, but today we see just the opposite happening.

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  101. I have a theoretical interest/fascination with eugenics (as a minority), and so does my boyfriend (who is ethnically German). I think this stands as a reminder that eugenics isn’t inherently racist like many of you are claiming it is, and eugenics isn’t mutually exclusive to some form of nationalism or ethnic purification.

    Having said that, I have no sympathy for rural-suburbanite low-class “hicks”. Not only do they poison the visual landscape, but they’re crass, uncultured, and do nothing in the way of advancing civilization and in most cases actively prevent it.

    Basically, it’s really simple to stand on one side of the escalator.

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  102. Kevin–

    Though they probably would never admit it, their strategy is the same as Roissy’s. Move the fuck out the city and get away from the losers. They don’t vote that way, but that’s the way they live.

    Steve Sailer has a number of very persuasive posts on this subject. The organizing principal is often a community with “very good schools”.

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  103. To Roissy [ & Co. ] :

    Let me ask y’all a question on behalf of a friend :

    Which profession is less Alpha for a man in mid-level medical practice…

    That of a “Nurse” (a field traditionally associated and dominated by women) or “Physician Assistant” (a field that was started in recognition of the exceptional practical skills of Special Operations Medics post-Vietnam, but who’s name and position are inherently a ‘Demonstration of Lower Value’)?

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  104. the asian woman was acting sterotypically asian, scurrying about and rudely squeezing by people, and i’m sure she harbors deep animosity toward lower class whites. and it’s true the hillbillies would not know about the unwritten DC rule to stand to the right of the escalator so people can pass.

    but they should be expected to understand basic manners; when someone is trying to walk past on a really long escalator while excusing herself, you step aside so she can pass and don’t make a big deal out of it. and there’s just something particularly galling about low class people cursing in front of their young children, and even encouraging the kids to join in the filthy fun.

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  105. Lsb Sounds like they felt painfully aware of being hicks in the city. They were probably overcompensating.

    I did but the dad lost me when he taught his son to curse a woman out for simply wanting to pass him on the escalator.

    @askjoe- I’m shocked that you’re arguing for the “fail family”. I’ve read some of your comments here and I would’ve sworn you would be lock and step with roissy on this issue.

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  106. Right or wrong, there’s no excuse for bad manners. I can only hope piggie meets up with some punk with a knife and an attitude when he next asserts his right to be an ass.

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  107. Dropping F-bombs in front of the kids…very lower class. Cursing out people in public for minor inconveniences, bullying behavior.
    I don’t know, I don’t have sympathy for bullies.

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  108. Seeking alpha Tough to freeload if there is no social security, medicare, medicaid, SCHIP, welfare, etc., etc.

    Unfortunately or fortunately fellas, you have to give the poor a little dollars if you want to live peacefully. Otherwise the poor will make everyday life for the wealthy and middle class hellish. Look at countries with no welfare etc… and note how kidnappings and attempted kidnappings of the well off are common. In Brazil, the rich have to travel by helicopter.

    I’m not sure there is anything we can do to get rid of the poor completely. What we should encourage is family planning (eg not having more than 1 (2max)child) for the very poor and uneducated. We should also publicly sham those who misbehave in public. Roissy was 100% correct for giving the evil eye to the father who taught his son to curse out an adult.

    When you see a woman wearing a shirt like the chick in the WalMart post, look at her shirt, then look her in the eye and shake your head or pretend to not see her. Under no circumstances should you flirt with her. Giving her positive attention and for some negative attention is as good as cosigning her behavior.

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  109. The only solution as I see it for us like-minded folks on this blog:

    Let’s all move to Australia.

    Surfs up!

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  110. Which profession is less Alpha for a man in mid-level medical practice…

    That of a “Nurse” (a field traditionally associated and dominated by women) or “Physician Assistant” (a field that was started in recognition of the exceptional practical skills of Special Operations Medics post-Vietnam, but who’s name and position are inherently a ‘Demonstration of Lower Value’)?

    which occupation affords a man more chance to screw hot poon on the clock? there’s your answer.

    for social events where people are asking what you do, i’d say PA. nursing is such a quintessentially female field that it makes sense for a male nurse to rebrand himself for maximum pussy poundage.

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  111. The anecdote reminds me of a line from Repo Man – “Look at those assholes. Ordinary fucking people, I hate ’em!”

    It does make me appreciate being a large male instead of a petite female, though. When I say “Excuse me!”, the tourists on the escalator look behind them, think, “hey that guy’s not kidding”, and they get out of the way. (They’re right, I’m not kidding.)

    But what would have been the civilizational implications if the Asian female had given the flabby prolefather the jumping kick to the side of the head that he richly deserved?

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  112. Read ‘A farewell to Alms.’ Its the intellectucal proof of Roissy’s point. Social mobility in the middle-ages was downward. The poor died. The first son of the aristocrats inherited everything. So the second and onwards son and daughters of the nobility ended up moving down a class.

    As a result overall societal genetics improved.

    doesn’t happen now as the rich don’t breed more than the poor.

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  113. chic, what the hell are you talking about?

    Anyway, your Neo-Marxist view of the world that without an absurdly plush social safety net, we’d have violence in the streets ignores the violence throughout the areas of subsidized privation in every corner of the world.

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  114. Roissy

    and it’s true the hillbillies would not know about the unwritten DC rule to stand to the right of the escalator so people can pass.

    It’s the same rule anywhere I’ve ever lived, including New York, London, the Bay Area, etc. Or ever visited in the West for that matter.

    It’s a class thing. Anyone with a touch of class knows the rule. I do mean a touch.

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  115. The last thing anyone besides the ‘lower class’ is having or is going to have is babies. Contraception and financial attitudes have seen to that, not even requiring the input of unfair family law and correcting widespread ignorance on that issue.

    So who’s going to win the reproductive race? Multiculturalism, existing religious factions, the lower class or…

    is the average man going to wake up and defend his civilisation?

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  116. America won’t get destroyed by two classes hating each other but it’s the first step towards being destroyed from the outside.

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  117. Which profession is less Alpha for a man in mid-level medical practice…

    That of a “Nurse” (a field traditionally associated and dominated by women) or “Physician Assistant”

    They are equally not-alpha, since afaik they are both totally female-dominated professions at this point. (If that’s not true, pick the one with fewer women.)

    He should think about radiology technologist – lots of them are male.

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  118. Strange, but my worst experience on the DC Metro involved an obvious SWPL-type (or Yuppie, as we used to say back then). Probably a lawyer to judge by the way he was dressed.

    I had paused for a moment on an up-moving escalator because there was someone blocking the way. I was tired, and failed to move immediately once a space opened up. Suddenly I was slammed against the stairs on my knees. Yelled “ouch”, as someone raced past me. And the fellow actually turned in mid-flight, a few steps above me, and snarled “You were in my way” before racing on.

    Frankly, that remains in my memory as a far more typical form of DC rudeness than the incident Roissy describes here. It was only the worst of many others but it was one of the things that convinced me I couldn’t live there any longer.

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  119. Roissy: “fucking and loving cute chicks, no matter what class those girls hail from. “

    This is super important. It’s also how I’d roll if I were ever to bestow my loin fruit upon a female. One of the most dispiriting, disgusting things I see are my scientist pals shacking up with their, “equals.” If they can find one, another nerd chick. If they can’t, some credentialed ding dong with a degree in Law, psychology or crotch studies or whatever. The vast majority of these women have completely failed at humanity, let alone being female. The idea of those women breeding fills me with dread for the future.

    I’ve been witness to the stupid social pressures in my personal life as well. I pretty much select on “hot” and “charm” and could care less about academic accomplishments. As such I’ve gotten crap from insecure ding bats and their husbands, who don’t seem to realize that women who real the Economist or claim to be “politically engaged” (aka they recycle and fantasize about boffing the president) have a fucking screw loose.

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  120. Tarl, what about PharmD’s

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  121. Fred–

    So the second and onwards son and daughters of the nobility ended up moving down a class.

    As a result overall societal genetics improved.

    That did happen but it was mostly that the middle income people, somewhat successful farmers and merchants, who had the most offspring, that created the natural eugenic effect in the period from 1200-1800 that he studied.

    The poor died off or simply couldn’t afford to marry. The social custom was that to marry a man had to be able to “decently” support his wife. Of course this was leaky but did have an effect.

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  122. I’m going to have go through this thread’s comments as I really enjoy Roissy’s social commentary posts [and wish he would write more], but for now I would like to discuss a tangent.

    Roissy & Co., “we” — as urban dwellers who do not produce anything — are similarly a part of the degradation of Western Civilization. Our consumer patterns and lifestyle reinforce the cycle of necessary skills and practices being filtered overseas.

    Here is a post from another one of my favorite blogs that give credence to this idea:

    http://www.survivalblog.com/2009/11/letter_re_some_ground_truththe.html

    One of my favorite early posts on “The Spearhead” is the hit article comparing the war of Urban vs. Rural lifestyles and values.

    I’ve recently come to realize through talks and contemplations with/of various people and literature [“The Diamond Age” by Neal Stephenson, Fred Reed, James Wesley Rawles, Neil Strauss’ new survivalist book, etc.] that in this dying society, only the quintessentially skilled tradesmen and vocationed and the legacy rural class will really survive what is coming.

    I plan to be fully prepared as one or the other by the the end of next decade.

    Anyway, it would do good for those of you who consider yourselves to be truly pragmatic to learn or possess something that has utility during all conditions of a society’s life-cycle and to consider where you may want to be when the Shit truly Hits the Fan.

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  123. Anyway, it would do good for those of you who consider yourselves to be truly pragmatic to learn or possess something that has utility during all conditions of a society’s life-cycle and to consider where you may want to be when the Shit truly Hits the Fan.

    “Mobility” should come before anything else. Before farming and woodworking, IMO

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  124. Well unless there are two askjoes around here, you’ve said some not so nice things about the “other” and the poor. It looked like you were having empathy for the rude family.

    but I’ve seen your comment at 6:35 so I’m backing down.

    Ask joe..If we ended welfare ,social security, ssi , Medicare tomorrow.. see what we would have in the streets in a few months.

    plush social safety net
    NO, not absurdly plush social net. but there should be some welfare .

    Birth control &plan B should be free for poor people.

    Teenagers should have access to birth control and plan B without parental consent. Birth control is cheaper than pampers, milk and daycare.

    Teenage girls who get knocked up shouldn’t have big fabulous baby showers thrown for them. Shotgun marriage should make a comeback with out for the gun if the DNA test proves the baby isn’t his.

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  125. @chic noir: Unfortunately or fortunately fellas, you have to give the poor a little dollars if you want to live peacefully.

    More than that, one thing you can’t cut down on is free medical care, for a very simple reason: You cut that, and diseases spread.

    Not only that, but our better weapons to combat them (namely antibiotics) need to be controlled and used properly or they just stop working – it’s an arms race against adaptation and genetics, which is absolutely fascinating.

    Even from a purely self-interested point of view, keeping the masses healthy is a good thing worthy of investment.

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  126. @Lupo,

    “As such I’ve gotten crap from insecure ding bats and their husbands, who don’t seem to realize that women who real [sic] the Economist…”

    My old lady LOVES The Economist, and she is as sweet and feminine as they come. We’ve been at parties and some lefty blowhard will start talking about poverty in Kenya or whatnot, and my old lady starts naming the Minister of Agriculture of Kenya, describing the situation, and putting the dude in his place. There’s nothing like a small woman from a poor country who tells the bearded American do-gooders that they’re all wrong.

    I’ll ask her where the fuck she learned the name of the Minister of Agriculture, and she’ll tell me it was in some article in The Economist from three months ago. I think she has a photographic memory. That doesn’t make her smart, but it’s cool to draw upon sometimes.

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  127. Class is increasingly a product of intelligence. Where once the 140+ IQ son of a Dakotan farmer would likely have continued farming, he now would likely become a high paid executive, lawyer, banker, doctor. Your high class chick obviously runs the gambit aesthetically, with more on the right side of the beauty curve bell. One area in which she will not differ (at least using my definition) is education, and ideally a respectable family. One cannot seriously say he would prefer the GED-approved spawn of truckers to some impeccably credentialed offspring of hoi agathoi. I mean…think of the children!

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  128. Maybe he saw your fake photoshopped arrest record and was scared?

    You so jumped the shark Roissy. How do you reconcile being an unabashed conservative and bashing the hillbillies that your party caters to? Intellectual incongruence runs deep on your side.

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  129. Chic Noir

    Unfortunately or fortunately fellas, you have to give the poor a little dollars if you want to live peacefully. Otherwise the poor will make everyday life for the wealthy and middle class hellish. Look at countries with no welfare etc… and note how kidnappings and attempted kidnappings of the well off are common. In Brazil, the rich have to travel by helicopter.

    That’s because there are elements in those societies that tell the poor they deserve much better (i.e. lots of welfare and/ or well paying jobs help), as people get in Europe or even that pit of inequity, the US, compared to them. But as a practical matter you’re right. If we didn’t go Stalinist police state, the alternative to some welfare is (even) more crime. We have high crime rates as it is though. Importantly because again many in our society are told they deserve much more all the time.

    I’m not sure there is anything we can do to get rid of the poor completely. What we should encourage is family planning (eg not having more than 1 (2max)child) for the very poor and uneducated.

    Can do you ask?

    Trade welfare for the poor for voluntary sterilization. The same could go for repeat violent felons, in order to ever get out of jail.

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  130. on November 3, 2009 at 7:31 pm The Fifth Horseman

    A 2-bedroom apartment in the suburbs of a 2nd tier Indian city can be had for $50,000. And you will have access to most Western amenities.

    You only have to get over two things :

    1) Mind-boggling traffic and congestion (although it is cheap to hire people to do your shopping for you)
    2) Insects the size of hummingbirds

    Unfortunately or fortunately fellas, you have to give the poor a little dollars if you want to live peacefully. Otherwise the poor will make everyday life for the wealthy and middle class hellish.

    India has many problems, but not this problem. The poor are not criminally minded outside of petty theft.

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  131. Doug —

    and it’s true the hillbillies would not know about the unwritten DC rule to stand to the right of the escalator so people can pass.

    It’s the same rule anywhere I’ve ever lived, including New York, London, the Bay Area, etc. Or ever visited in the West for that matter.

    It’s a class thing. Anyone with a touch of class knows the rule. I do mean a touch.

    Haven’t been to Tokyo, have you? In Tokyo, we stand on the left.

    And it’s not really a touch of class so much as it’s a touch of common sense…

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  132. chic,

    please explain then why the non poor shouldn’t simply exterminate the poor instead of being held hostage by this nebulous threat of violence if they aren’t given ransom money?

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  133. Backdoor Man—

    My old lady LOVES The Economist, and she is as sweet and feminine as they come. We’ve been at parties and some lefty blowhard will start talking about poverty in Kenya or whatnot, and my old lady starts naming the Minister of Agriculture of Kenya, describing the situation, and putting the dude in his place. There’s nothing like a small woman from a poor country who tells the bearded American do-gooders that they’re all wrong.

    The Economist has moved SUBSTANTIALLY over to the left though from where they were a decade or so ago. Guess Oxbridge has gotten even more left, or there’s just been a culture creep there. They were always classical liberals (as opposed to leftists), and retain their bedrocks faiths of free trade. They’re now for substantially open borders however, or seem to always come out on that side of any controversy. They’re big on the ICJ World Court. In the current issue they’ve even got a leader (editorial) in favor of allowing all felons not only the vote after some period out of jail without re-offending, but all the while they’re in jail as well, using largely specious arguments.

    It remains the most intelligent general interest newsweekly though.

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  134. LILGRL–

    Haven’t been to Tokyo, have you? In Tokyo, we stand on the left.

    I have but not in ages. I couldn’t remember. Not surprised in the least that there’s a similar customary rule in Japan.

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  135. Doug —

    Actually it’s only in Tokyo/the KP area where they stand on the left…the rest of Japan, it’s the right.

    Because samurais stand on the left.

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  136. the fifth horseman India has many problems, but not this problem. The poor are not criminally minded outside of petty theft

    What about those hindu versus muslim bombings and fighting I see on the news every so often.

    Doug
    Trade welfare for the poor for voluntary sterilization.

    I’m not sure most poor people, esp poor men will go along with this.

    The same could go for repeat violent felons, in order to ever get out of jail.

    I can agree with this 100% and I think child molesters should live in a colony when they are released. This is also something you can get most of the public to agree with versus your first example.

    doug We have high crime rates as it is though. Importantly because again many in our society are told they deserve much more all the time.

    One reason we have high crime rates is because we have people acting out and no longer facing the social repercussions that they once did. Broken homes and family dysfunction play into this in a major way. That’s why we must shun those who misbehave.

    Women who actively seek out violent criminals to mate with should shunned.

    Believe me when I tell that within 10min I can tell you if a young man from my area has his father in his life with 80% accuracy. There is a calming influence as well as fear that a young man has for his father. I don’t care how much any feminist tries to argue otherwise. Good fathers are very important.

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  137. LILGRL–

    Because samurais stand on the left.

    Of course!!!

    That’s just common sense … 😉

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  138. LILGRL–

    “Because samurais stand on the left.”

    Pupu has heard that the Brits drive on the left because knights used to ride on the left side of a road so they could pull out the swords with their right arms and fight in the middle of the road. Anyway, it was all for the convenience of fighting.

    If the Japanese has let the sumo wrestlers to choose side, it would have to be right in the middle!

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  139. This may have already been mentioned (I can’t read the deluge of comments above) but Roissy’s solution only works if he adjusts his definition of ‘alpha male.’

    Previously he defined ‘alpha’ in terms of the number and quality of women who want to fuck you. He also says (and I agree) that this ability can be acquired with effort and practice.

    Unfortunately, as most of us will have learned in biology class, anything gained by effort and practice cannot be passed on to successive generations. Acquired traits, like having game, aren’t heritable.

    Therefore, unless by “alpha male” roissy is moving away from his older definition and moving more toward “genetically fit male” the premise of having alpha males screw women of lower classes doesn’t quite work.

    Aside from that, I otherwise fully endorse this post.

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  140. Overwritten dreck.

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  141. Sorry, the previous comment Pupu left has so many mistakes in it. Pupu is very tired.

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  142. epic post. awesomely inspired invective. but, contains the usual confusion of genetics (nature) with culture and education (nurture). those rubes are the grandchildren of the generation that won WWII and built corporate america. genes don’t remotely change that fast. it betrays a fundamental lack of understanding of what genes are and what traits they pass. you and other commenters hit on the real culprits: mass media, lack of interclass solidarity, poor education and upbringing, export of high-paying jobs overseas and competition from low-wage immigrants, etc. none of this is genetic – all environmental.

    so – no, not really “genetic” winners and losers. the chasm is real, but it’s class/education, those that can navigate and thrive in the post-industrial information economy and those that can’t, either because of IQ or (more likely) lack of education or exposure.

    an enormous amount of how a person will turn out in life is due to their parents and home environment: not class or wealth per se, but now much attention they got, what kind of attention, if they were pushed to excel or just let out to run around and goof off, etc. character begins at home, and everything flows from that. positive home environments correlate with higher income and education, but are separable from it.

    this is, in broad to the point of stereotypical terms, why jews and NE asians leapt to the top of the heap within a generation or two after their respective periods of mass immigration: the culture and values they brought (NOT GENES !! !!) were well-adapted to thrive in an open, competitive anglo-capitalist society. other groups, not so much.

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  143. @aliasclio- you lived in DC, eh? thought you were a canadian government ex-academic wonk.

    @dana- haven’t seen you for a while, but wanted to say i finally read all those essays on american fascism you posted back in July. i printed them and put them on my read pile and finally got around to them. the rothbard piece was excellent – the best of the bunch. also, mass murder is usually not a good road to go down.

    @pupu- see what happens when you stop running your 10Ks?

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  144. Could #2 be supplemented with the banning of birth control? Alphas have sex starting a young age with young women whilst Betas have to wait until their twenties or so? Thus a women would have been ‘Alpha-ed out’ by the time she would consider settling down a Beta and only to help her raise her Alpha brood? Of course, selling Betas on the idea that they should give up sex and help raise Alpha children . . .

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  145. hammerz and rupaul,
    The problem with lefty trolls is that they only argue from the stand point of their own prejudices. So you come on the interwebs and say something that only makes sense to someone whose reality is defined by Jon Stewart. The cognitive dissonance between reality and your self-mythos is vast. As much as you like to feel like enlightened guiding spirits by your trendy political stances, your party is defined less by illuminary trendoids and starlets than by ACORN inspired ballot box stuffing, organized crime, union thugs, and uninformed voters.

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  146. maurice, dana–

    the rothbard piece was excellent – the best of the bunch.

    Link?

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  147. maurice–

    an enormous amount of how a person will turn out in life is due to their parents and home environment: not class or wealth per se, but now much attention they got, what kind of attention, if they were pushed to excel or just let out to run around and goof off, etc. character begins at home, and everything flows from that. positive home environments correlate with higher income and education, but are separable from it.

    You’re sounding perilously close to being a blank state, radical environmentalist. That’s wrong. The evidence has been piling up massively against that. Marxists and their heirs are enormously heavily ideologically invested in blank slate/radical environmentalism.

    Absent severe environmental including nutritional deprivations (of the sort that are rare in America today), intelligence is easily more mediated by genes than environment, the evidence overwhelmingly shows. In fact in most any other area of science this would be understood as having been scientifically demonstrated aka crudely put, “proven”. It’s only for religious reasons that it isn’t. Leftist secular religious reasons. Their adherants dominate Universities, the media and punditry; they dominate in the ranks of public intellectuals. Experts in the fields of genetics, psychometrics, evolutionary pscyhology and so on know differently. But they saw what happened to nobel prize winner James Watson, for a remark he made in goodwill, but that was challenging to PC coming from an eminent genetics scientist.

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  148. @doug- it was on some post in july, i don’t recall now, but here’s what a google search turned up:

    http://mises.org/story/2543

    and

    http://murrayrothbard.com/articles.html

    the first link is the article i was talking about. key insight is american forms of collectivism came out of a certain strain of protestant fundamentalism, not from waves of european immigrants. there was both light and heat shed on this topic over the summer, when dana hung around more (where have you gone, my dear?). a lot of very influential forgotten figures discussed in depth. for history buffs only – others will be bored. second link is a list of all articles by the same author.

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  149. This post is kind of bullshit. But maybe the next one will be good!And what is so godawful ’bout being FAT!!!??

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  150. Thus spake Zarathustra…..

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  151. I like this blog when it talks about game.

    However, sometimes I think to myself “fuck me, some people need to step away from the Kool-Aid”

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  152. on November 3, 2009 at 9:28 pm unlearning genius

    @Roissy,
    ‘an enormous amount of how a person will turn out in life is due to their parents and home environment: not class or wealth per se’

    so much snobbery and plain wrong ideas. The odds are highly stacked against people with less wealth and or from a ‘lower’ socioeconomic strata ..

    Deep down you are also a white supremacist racist, you just act like you are egalitarian. At-least these people are free to express what they feel rather than having to hide it in sophistry. No you are not ‘better’ than these people, quit fooling yourself ‘alpha’.

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  153. lol.

    Though I was thinking on the way home tonight: “I’m so alpha, I’m Omega.”

    I truly don’t give a shit about most of the cunts out there. Why would I even deign to stick my dick anywhere near them?

    They can go fuck themselves because I’m not going to.

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  154. @doug- first, i posted a link to that article, but it’s held up in moderation. http://mises.org/story/2543.

    second – yeah, i am not coming from a marxist point of view at all, nor a blank slate point of view. i’m just arguing that culture matters and values matter, probably more than IQ, in determining success in life. what’s marxist about that? you may be referring to the bastardized 50s-60s frankfurt school, of which i know little and care less, but marxism’s classic “dialectic” is between the working class and the upper “capitalist” class, and I’m talking about some thing different.

    obviously both matter, but IQ is an extremely narrow measure of a certain, math-abstract type of bookish intelligence, which help predict success in certain high-paying careers today, of which there are more than there used to be. but it says nothing at all about social intelligence/adjustment, self discipline, other skills like mechanical or artisanal ability, ability to work within a social or political system, etc. viewed that way, across all the attribiutes needed to function well in society, the HBD fixation on IQ is simply bizarre: it’s used as a proxy for a lot of things it never was intended to measure or pertain to.

    i am coming at this from a micro, bottom-up point of view, based on thousands of observations over my life, as opposed to a top-down, ideological view, which is the kind of evidence-free approach that usually leads to a wrong answer. how many whip-smart people have you met who never made it big, because of personality flaws or from simply never having had a break? not knowing how to get to where they should be? how many morons have you met in good jobs simply because they went to the right schools and knew how to talk the right talk?

    this sounds like i’m arguing for some nepotism-centered view of success, but it’s all about understanding the system and having the core values for education, self-discipline and sacrifice for the next generation. this is what the jews, koreans, high-edu indians etc. have done and other immigrant groups without those values failed to do.

    / end rant /

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  155. @doug- I don’t think Maurice’s point was given an equal environment, any child will make it to Harvard. He was more along the lines of the little boy whose father was teaching him to curse may grow up to be a guest of Jerry Springer one day owing largely to his parents failure to teach him how to behave and a media that tells him it’s okay to act out on your inner feelings. along with a fatalistic view of his life beyond tomarrow.

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  156. on November 3, 2009 at 9:46 pm Engel Schwarz

    Roissy-

    I appreciate this post and i think you make some good points, and more importantly, theres an underlying thread of greatness or at least appreciation of greatness in a lot of your blogs. I think that whatever weakness you have in vision and conception, to my mind it shows itself most in that you dont go far enough in your reviling, or that you get worked up about things that should be coolly stated in a sentence and be done with. Precisely where your detractors would attack you, i would say you either dont go far enough, or where you do far enough, you do so from a vantage point that is not sufficiently cool/ at an insufficient height– i.e. it betrays that you havent lived in the heights of contempt for a long time, and that you are not accustomed to viewing the rest of the world from a height. You strike me as like a fairly noble guy who is bitten and/or otherwise annoyed by a dog, and then spends an hour inveighing against the dog, and trying to physically avenge himself. Its a fucking dog roissy– yes, it is not human, yes its dirty, it sniffs its own shit and other dogs’, it turns tail when it sees another bigger animal, it feels most fulfilled when serving a human’s silly whims, etc etc etc … when it bites you or vexes you, sure you get mad, but you dont think of it as a moral agent, so you dont take it personally… you kill it or otherwise dis-able it if you can… and you kill its owner if you want to and if u can… but you dont rant about it for an hour… it is like bad weather… dogs, bad weather, dog-people– they are all obviously in the same category to an enlightened and exalted man … railing against dog people can betray that one would like to be exalted— especially when one is PARTLY exalted, and partly not… your solutions, while certainly arrived at via highly commendable motives, also have an element of that hidden desire to be truly exalted where one is by nature only partly or mostly exalted, but where one lives among creatures who are not exalted at all…. and again, im not saying dont get angry– im saying dont dwell on anger if it is not acted upon…

    practically speaking, i think your idea of alpha males mating with hot lower class bitches is one that wouldnt work. The reasons are many, but 2 of the main ones are these: 1) alphaness of males is in large part INSEPARABLE from alphaness of societies– american society is weak and effeminate (you know the reasons better than most, i dont need to list them), therefore realistically speaking, no great alphas are even possible here for the most part— do you think that the most alpha males will deign to live in a society that he has NOT organized (EVEN REMOTELY!) in the image of himself or of his ilk? that is the question i pose to you… how is a very alpha man in power in a very effeminate society even possible? his very alphaness would cause him to rebel against every institution of such a society, until he or the society were broken– i say all other conceptions of alphaness are secondary and for fags, so to speak… 2) such a pairing of such motley-incomplete/faux alphas with lower class women would result in a further degeneration of whatever small semblance of a strong patriarchal society we have in america– their children would be the very unthinking brutes, criminals, life-hating feminists, etc etc who have enabled the de-civilizing (de-masculinizing) of our society…

    your coinage that you use a lot–“lawyer cunt”–is a truly great one…

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  157. huxley’s link is consistent with what i posted – from a negative point of view.

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  158. Wow, some truly electric writing.

    Re-read this several times.

    Serious question – is this kind of intelligence a blessing or a curse?

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  159. Social dynamics operate within groups, not between groups. You can’t just call country trash omegas because you consider them beneath you. The man’s confidence, body language, and command of his family was classic alpha and your thinking that you made some kind of sufficient statement with a silly little whisper is classic beta. Every social group has its alphas and omegas. Every social group has its sensible folks and its assholes.

    There’s not some kind of “intelligent alpha” and “retarded omega” dichotomy in America; however, the “treasonous elites” and “regressing underclass” dichotomy is dead on. Unfortunately, you don’t get that it’s entirely your fault. You’re a naturally gifted man with a phenomenal eye for the actual mechanics of human nature, a gift which the traditional elite has always had and used wisely in their stewardship.

    But, as we all know, you just use this gift to fuck bitches, scrawl your degenerate screeds on this bathroom wall of a blog, and confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt that the brewing tempest is healthy, necessary, and long overdue.

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  160. on November 3, 2009 at 10:26 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    @askjoe

    ACORN and SEIU, what else did you learn from Beck’s chalkboard this week? No chance in hell the people in this story were libs. I’d bet real money that they are Palin supporters.

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  161. Dr. G, way to demonstrate my point. You are arguing against your own prejudices. You are worthless and add nothing of substance.

    In your head, it’s you the choir of eco-saints, glitterati of the world, academia, etc. arguing against some sort of totemic enemy of Becks and Palins and other boogeymen.

    I have to admit though, that saying ACORN and SEIU is sort of redundant when used in the same sentence as organized crime.

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  162. Hey, Maurice,

    It’s *because* I’m a Canadian government ex-academic wonk that I ended up living and working in DC for about 18 months back in the 90s. I already knew the city a little because my parents had lived there for four years prior to the time I moved there myself, just after they moved back to Canada. Can’t say more than that because it wd make me too easy to identify…

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  163. on November 3, 2009 at 10:35 pm ironrailsironweights

    Oh my, this is so tasty.

    Peter

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  164. I don’t know which is worse: a family of greasy hillbillies, or a little Asian bitch? Actually I do know what is worse: Mexican gang-bangers and niggers.

    Remember: the Orc hordes speak with Mexican, Asian, and ghetto accents. And when they get out of line, they can all be targeted by bio-weapons.

    Diversity is a strength. Right?

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  165. on November 3, 2009 at 10:43 pm Cannon's Canon

    chris christie won!

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  166. This Maryland hick wouldn’t happen to be one of them?

    http://www.youtube.com/user/BigMastadon

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  167. on November 3, 2009 at 10:45 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    @askjoe

    Nice talking points. Aren’t you going to throw in Ayers, Rev. Wright, Chicago politics, Pelosi?

    My point is that these people were clearly of the Republican base. Any argument? I couldn’t demonstrate your point because you didn’t have one.

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  168. William
    I don’t know which is worse: a family of greasy hillbillies, or a little Asian bitch? Actually I do know what is worse: Mexican gang-bangers and niggers.

    ~

    On your “niggers” comment.

    So, a black dude, that happens to be an Alpha male with chicks hanging off his black ass – is nothing but a lowly nigger?

    I mean, nigger IS a derogatory term is it not?

    Are you prepared to say this in person to a “nigger”, that is worse than some little asian bitch?

    Mississippi burning dude – and it is still burning brightly for you.

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  169. Yeah, there’s a lot to be worried about as far as the future goes , especially vis a vis demography (both quality and quantity of, in the West and “the rest”) but I can think of a couple reasons for believing life is worth living, and goals are worth striving for.

    The first is the Internet, specifically. Without this tool, I would have no idea what HBD is, or what its implications are. Also, I’d still be a reflexively pedestalling, one-itis-afflicted chump, because there’s no other source I could have learned Game from. The Net allows the thriving spread of the ideas our corrupt overclass prefers suppressed. The “netroots’ Left has used it effectively as a means for insurgent organization, and we on the paleo/hbd right can do the same.

    The second reason is the ideas mentioned above, in addition to others. Science is giving us an ever clearer, if often unpleasant, view of ourselves. Surely the potential for applying this knowledge is as great as it is yet untapped. Oriental societies, totally unencumbered by the political correctness and general pathetic fragility that hinders the West, will implement this powerful tool with gusto once the details are worked out. It’s plausible that we’ll be inspired to follow suit, just like the initial Soviet superiority in space gave us the needed kick in the ass.

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  170. There are not two groups – there are three. A small genetic underclass tail to the left, a small genetic upper class tail to the right, and a big fat centre of betas and 3-5’s.

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  171. I don’t, by the way, necessarily endorse directed, top-down eugenics*. A conservative way to implement bio-realism is to use it as as a (probably unspoken) rationale to oppose existing social policies that are actively dysgenic.

    *but this might be the emergency rip-cord we need to pull.

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  172. totemic boogey man, G. You think that just by saying key words, people are going to bow down to your incoherent points.

    You are worthless. Your self assumed intelligence is a joke.

    You are arguing against your own prejudices. “It makes me feel good to assume that everyone who votes or otherwise disagrees with me is a raving, ignorant hill billy. I also feel good in assuming that everyone who votes like with me is beautiful and well bred.”

    I would have to say that judging by the rank criminality of cursing out and generally intimidating a chick on a subway train escalator, their obesity, and just their general rudeness, they’re the base of the democrat party. Probably on welfare or union thugs. Republicans tend not to curse in front of their kids. People on the dole wouldn’t know to move aside for people who work or are in a hurry during business hours. So there you go.

    In summary:
    Criminality=democrat.
    lazy=democrat
    cursing, rude=democrat
    obese=democrat (ok, toss up)
    arrogant=definitely democrat.

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  173. I also have to agree with Zunder…sad but true…William seems to be trolling by incrimination…saying something really awful to make the whole blog look bad.

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  174. On a side note………

    Does anyone else thing Mrs Duggar with the 18 kids is sort of sexy? I like her voice, and the way she worships her man. Thats how a woman should behave.

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  175. Backdoor Man: “My old lady LOVES The Economist, and she is as sweet and feminine as they come.”

    And most of my exes read stuff like the New Criterion and Physical Review Letters … but that ain’t why I dated them.

    There’s one girl in particular who I think of when I hear this argument. She actually got me to thinking about hanging my balls up on her keyrack back in the era of my life when I was considering being a spook. She was uneducated beyond high school level, completely untutored in current events and the crap and nonsense that psychology major and JD equipped females consider “knowledge” (aka, how to display disapproval when Brother Lupo doesn’t recycle). None the less: bright and talented: an opera singer in her spare time, she had a good job doing accounting, which put her four square above the mental capabilities of 99.9% of females, she spoke several languages reasonably well from memorizing arias, read books (good and bad; she’d read all of Shakespeare, but also liked Harry Potter), feminine and … even now, many years later, she’s still a 9+. Many, many of my friends gave me the old “haw haw haw,” about her because I had a Ph.D. in physics and she only went to high school. That sort of credentialism makes me sick: this girl was their superior in every way.

    The idea that I should date some flabby popeye-chinned harridan who got a diploma and can ape like she’s capable of rational thought rather than a beautiful ethereal woman who came from a lower social class makes me sick. I’ll never do it. Working class or foreign women are women. Prune faced hipster debutantes with a “degree” are compensating for something: I thought Nietzsche was nuts when he said that, but it’s 100% true.

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  176. maurice–

    I couldn’t agree more that IQ isn’t all important in life.

    It’s just by far the most studied and best measured mental attribute.

    It is very important to economic success in industrial and post industrial societies (and probably in agricultural ones as well, if a bit less so). But not all important. Values and personality matter huge too. Charisma is a biggie. Male looks and height have some importance too, and obviously female looks matter, including in work success. Determination is big. And so on.

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  177. social policy has syphoned alpha’s genes while engorging his penis. his children, not him, pay the price of the globally begotten world.

    evolution is going cognitive at an alarming rate.

    let fucktards be fucktards, roissy…you dig

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  178. Doug1,

    IQ does not measure intelligence, but you are too delusional to understand that.

    Think about it, what do IQ tests measure? Ability to innovate, think originally OR the ability to solve problems according to a script?

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  179. Moralist,

    What you think of as science is dissimilar to what it really is.. but your illusions would be disturbed if you understood what we do not know.

    PS- Oriental societies will always be fucked because of their mercantile mindset, an attribute they share with white ‘conservatives’.

    not that I have any sympathy for leftists..

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  180. William,

    Whites have rather limited genetic diversity, and are therefore very easy to target with bioweapons.

    Read a bit about the science underlying that subject..

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  181. J-Boy

    You say, “What is so awful about being fat?”

    diabetes
    hypertension
    joint wear
    strokes
    your dick disappears if you are a guy
    If you are a chick ,quality guys barf and run
    when the end comes, hungry mobs will gnaw on your flesh
    when they finish with the meal & you are dead you learn in the Next Place that gluttony is a Mortal Sin – so you spend eternity in a cast-iron rendering pot.

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  182. Pupu has been looking at numbers and graphs for an entire day. What just came to her mind, upon reading this post and Sofia’s post on class at Girlgame, is that the gap between one’s ability to comprehend and her/his ability to deliver is possible to be bridged by charm. Those people who show deficiencies in class may have their deliveries outpacing their comprehensions.

    Pupu is not sure that she is making any sense.

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  183. read this again – still love the prose. but:

    pry liberally with single malt scotch

    shouldn’t this be “ply”? and

    ablative bunker mentality

    this threw me at first – not latin case but to melt or pulverize. awesome! love the invective.

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  184. Lupo,
    None the less: bright and talented: an opera singer in her spare time, she had a good job doing accounting, which put her four square above the mental capabilities of 99.9% of females, she spoke several languages reasonably well from memorizing arias, read books (good and bad; she’d read all of Shakespeare, but also liked Harry Potter), feminine and … even now, many years later, she’s still a 9+. Many, many of my friends gave me the old “haw haw haw,” about her because I had a Ph.D. in physics and she only went to high school. That sort of credentialism makes me sick: this girl was their superior in every way.

    Just so you know, and not that it’s important to you or anyone else, this is the kind of woman I most enjoy having as a friend. They’re usually lots of fun to be around, and their ideas and conversation don’t have the cookie-cutter sameness you find among most university-educated women. At least, not until you get to the PhD level…

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  185. Lupo–

    Well my Italian American girl is fairly good college educated, but no advanced degree and working in a commercial creative area. She’s totally non dogmatic, original, experimental, and fun. Oh and subject to influence from moi, but not submersion. Yuum.

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  186. Lupo, aliasclio:

    Characterizing middle to upper class women who want to pursue education as unidimensional thinkers who universally take up identical strains of campus activism, and reactionary partisan thinking is fraudulent. It’s grating, but would you really prefer a non-educated underclass? Only the slimmest percentile of women who are only high-school educated have feasible and credible aspirations to something greater, and by greater I do not mean a career as a lawyer, just as an enlightened thinker. They are the exceptions, not the rule. Glorifying the lower class is such a culturally Marxist thing to do.

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  187. maurice; lupo–

    @lupo ablative bunker mentality

    this threw me at first – not latin case but to melt or pulverize. awesome! love the invective.

    This struck me too as an odd use of the word ablative.

    However being a sailor I immediately associated the word with ablative bottom paints, which means sail or other boat bottom paints that work in part not just or at all by killing the pesky barnacles and other marine growth that want to adhere to bottoms creating big motion resistance, but also or instead by sloughing off. Pealing away. Being slippery by taking the critters with it as it micro layer peels off, over time.

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  188. …not to say that every idiot with a BA is even intelligent, but pursuing learning is in and of itself more commendable than intellectual stagnation.

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  189. Sofia–

    Really good pic of you Sofia. Hot looking.

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  190. He knew, on some deep level, I was his better, and he would get no succor from me.

    Succor? God, you’re a jerk roissy!

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  191. on November 4, 2009 at 12:08 am HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    Man FUCK fat people…

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  192. This is due to the reversal of the flow of culltural mores and standards. A direct and predictable result of the social decay that accompanies feminism and we reach the tipping point of single motherhood rates in our society and fathers no longer have any control or incentives to ensure their offspring grow up to be better people. Women generally fail at this and we have also disempowered men in the family as well, so that its impossible for them to have much influence on their children even if the family is intact. The other men drop out and become parasites on the decaying culture rather than contribute too its growth. We in the West have only deteriorating pride in ourselves or our national culture and it manifests itself in this kind of cretin. We celebrate such people, especially if they’re rap stars. These people would indeed have been sturdy frontiersmen with strong sons and pretty daughters 100 years ago.

    Its true, in the past such people would have behaved better and emulated the upper classes. Now we have the reverse and such cretinous people are now encouraged in their vulgarity. I encourage everyone here to read the Garbage Generation by Daniel Amneus. Its a great book.

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  193. on November 4, 2009 at 12:16 am HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    Roissy this is why you should have kids… imagine that people like this are multiplying at rates exponential to the rates people like you or most of your blog readers are. Stop talking the talk and do your part to save america.

    Oh god his ego is going to be even more out of control asdflkasjdf;lakdsfj

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  194. Characterizing middle to upper class women who want to pursue education as unidimensional thinkers who universally take up identical strains of campus activism, and reactionary partisan thinking is fraudulent. It’s grating, but would you really prefer a non-educated underclass? Only the slimmest percentile of women who are only high-school educated have feasible and credible aspirations to something greater, and by greater I do not mean a career as a lawyer, just as an enlightened thinker. They are the exceptions, not the rule. Glorifying the lower class is such a culturally Marxist thing to do.

    Strictly speaking, Sofia, my family was of the Lower Classes one generation ago. So I am, you know, biased. Neither my father nor my mother could have dreamed in childhood that they would end up where they did. My father was the son of a poor French Canadian butcher; my mother was the daughter of poor Polish immigrants. They grew up during the Depression in western Canada, which was no bowl of cherries….

    Having said that, however, I’ll add that I WOULD agree with what you said, if I had any confidence in the kind of thing that most people, esp. women, are taught once they reach institutions of higher learning, at least in the Humanities and Social Sciences fields in which most women tend to congregate.

    Happy times are here again

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  195. Doug,

    Thanks 🙂

    aliasclio,

    I’m likewise descended from poor immigrants. The thing is, despite coming from humble origins, both my parents worked their way through an university education and provided the best resources for me and my sisters to make use of for our respective futures. I’m not saying people from low classes are incapable of being intelligent; I’m simply making the claim that seeking self-betterment is more commendable than not.

    Confidence in what kind of thing? What specifically are you referring to? Admittedly, I’m pursuing a specialist in philosophy, but that’s not to say I’m not skeptical of the purity and goodness of academic institutions as a whole. On the contrary, it has given me a critical and objective framework with which to perceive and make sense of the world. It’s an unbiased discipline.

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  196. I’ll bet you that redneck was not an immigrant.

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  197. JP
    Move to Sweden and stay out of the muslim neighborhoods. Almost no trash in the American sense.

    Sweden just hides it better. Germany is the same, as is Holland and Denmark. In general there is simply less cretinism because they still have a strong native culture- although they are all working hard to undermine it. Sweden is what it is today less because of socialism and more because of its strong Calvinist cultural underpinnings. We used to do the same by having PE in school and encouraging people to be model citizens through courses like citizenship. Neo Marxists have killed all of that with law suits and cultural rot in the media by defining deviancy down. We have created this mess and made it worse with our social policies. 20 years ago you saw fewer fat people in the US than today. 40 years ago, there were almost none.

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  198. Categorically claiming that “book-learnin’ is bad” is blindness.

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  199. Sofia,

    your parents may have been poor and not university educated but I doubt they were as culturally empty as the people we are referring to as lower class here. Your parents were simply economically poor, but not culturally. There is a huge difference. Eastern Europeans generally get an excellent education and had good access to high culture. Books were common and cheap and tended to be pretty high brow, at least in the FSU. Most educated EE are far more culturally aware than the average educated American.

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  200. софиа/sofia wrote: “Only the slimmest percentile of women who are only high-school educated have feasible and credible aspirations to something greater”

    Well, for one thing, there are twice as many women who didn’t go to college as there are who did; therefore, excluding non-college educated women is stupid, even if there are only a few non-college women who are superior. For another thing, high IQ people cluster in two areas: people who got their Ph.D.’s in hard sciences, and people who never went to college (it’s in Murray’s Bell Curve somewhere). The girl I described was absolutely of very high IQ, despite her lack of schooling. Most accountants have masters degrees. She makes a good living at that trade with a high school diploma; entirely self taught. And speaks several languages, and sings like a bird. And she is hot. Her parents and brother were impressive people as well. That means, if I have kids with someone like that, they will very likely be brainy, hot and awesome. This is not necessarily true of some wastrel who merely went to college because her parents had enough money.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass if someone I’m dating has “credible aspirations to something greater.” No matter what their aspirations, mine are bigger, therefore their greatest aspiration should be me. In fact, if they have some silly assed aspirations; those aspirations may interfere with mine which are a hell of a lot more important. “Career woman” types never seem to see this aspect of things. Which is why they are not as hot as chicks who only went to high school, but can sing an aria.

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  201. Tyrone,

    I’m not Eastern European, though I understand the Cyrillic might be misleading.

    I’m an elitist, but not when it comes to money as money is a hollow thing. Like I said, my parents weren’t rich, but they worked hard to put themselves through school and to provide a good cultural and educational foundation for their family.

    There is nothing inherently praisworthy about low-class people who don’t strive for intellectual betterment and overall improvement of their personhood. People turn themselves into empty reactionaries when they immediately condemn the educated classes.

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  202. Roissy,

    Stick to what you’re good at. Tell us how to pick up women. Don’t delude yourself into thinking you have insight into anything else.

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  203. Lupo,

    Point taken, though those instances you describe are rare in my personal experience. She sounds like she still had personal aspirations in terms of being an autodidact. When I say “aspirations”, I’m not necessarily referring to a career, just betterment as a person which is indelible from seeking knowledge in some form or another.

    Though you’re at risk of exluding thinkers like Noam Chomsky with your criteria of what it means to be high-IQ. Just sayin’.

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  204. I’ve been ruminating on that very divide between those proud to be crass and the privileged few who seek to align themselves with the trappings of class and status. It seems symptomatic of the growing isolation and careless selfishness bred by sensationalism, feelings of entitlement, and narcissistic egomaniacs who capitalize upon dulling and deskilling the masses.

    Too much us versus them. Too many special snowflakes. Too many law suits. Too little responsibility taken. Too much taken for granted.

    Is this what happens when people are content taking pride in affiliation, instead of earning their respect?

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  205. Having said that, however, I’ll add that I WOULD agree with what you said, if I had any confidence in the kind of thing that most people, esp. women, are taught once they reach institutions of higher learning, at least in the Humanities and Social Sciences fields in which most women tend to congregate. Clio

    Confidence in what kind of thing? What specifically are you referring to? Admittedly, I’m pursuing a specialist in philosophy, but that’s not to say I’m [not] skeptical of the purity and goodness of academic institutions as a whole. On the contrary, it has given me a critical and objective framework with which to perceive and make sense of the world. It’s an unbiased discipline. Sofia

    Most of the academic women I’ve known have been heavily influenced by academic feminism. They may well be intelligent and hard-working people, but their ideological commitments often lead them into sterile and unworthy intellectual pursuits. As a result, they tend to become dull and predictable companions for both their male and female acquaintances.

    Of course I’ve known women who don’t fit the template I’ve outlined above. But even these seldom show signs of rebelling against the attitudes and assumptions of their fore-mothers.

    Anyway, for what it’s worth, I believe absolutely in the power of education to set the mind free and allow the heart to blossom…sorry for the rhetorical flourishes. Just not the type of education that so many women fall victim to today.

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  206. sofia:

    Categorically claiming that “book-learnin’ is bad” is blindness.

    Trouble is, a little knowledge is often a dangerous thing. When you’re young, as soon as you get some book knowledge, you’ll be tempted to foolishly discard the traditional wisdom you’ve been raised with in the name of these new revelations, with potentially very bad consequences. It is only after many years of disciplined and systematic studying that you can expect to become any wiser from book learning; otherwise, it is indeed worse than nothing in most cases.

    And in the name of all that’s holy, please change that illiterate Cyrillic spelling. It should be either СОФИЯ (Russian, Bulgarian), or СОФІЯ (Ukrainian), or СОФИЈА (Serbian, Macedonian).

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  207. софиа/sofia “When I say “aspirations”, I’m not necessarily referring to a career, just betterment as a person which is indelible from seeking knowledge in some form or another.”

    Well, she’s trying to get pregnant. I don’t think that’s what you’re talking about though. Her self betterment was entirely unconscious as far as I can tell, or at least un-self-conscious. Just water finding its level.

    Yes, she was rare; she also wins over all the numerous lady Ph.D.’s I’ve dated. This indicates that sort of “ambition” is kind of worthless.

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  208. aliasclio,

    Out of curiosity, what is their academic concentration outside of explicitly Women and Gender Studies? English Lit.? Respectfully, I think what you notice might be a product of your time. I’m currently in undergraduate and don’t see the ostensible pervasiveness of academic feminism outside of those two aforementioned fields.

    Vladimir,

    I recognize the phenomenon you’re referring to, but I don’t classify that as proper education. Sometimes people have an inflated sense of the worth of their own opinions because it’s loosely substantiated on some cursory reading on such and such a topic. At best (or worst?), it’s misology which I consider the worst type of academic offense, and at worst (or best?), it’s just plain ignorance. Your point still stands, but doesn’t nullify the fact that genuine pursuit of knowledge is still more noble than not.

    And thank you for the correction! I’ve been trying to figure it out.

    Lupo,

    Is “that sort of ‘ambition'” really altogether worthless in your eyes? I think being educated and all those other undesireable qualities you mentioned can be mutually collaborative, but also mutually exclusive. Can you not admire the woman who tries in earnest to expand her mind? Even through formal education?

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  209. aliasclio:

    Anyway, for what it’s worth, I believe absolutely in the power of education to set the mind free and allow the heart to blossom…sorry for the rhetorical flourishes. Just not the type of education that so many women fall victim to today.

    There is also a more general issue. One thing where our modern age is especially deluded about education is that it should be about “critical thinking” and whatnot from day one. (Here I have in mind philosophy and humanities, not exact sciences.) When you read about the old days, it is striking how students used to be under iron discipline of utterly non-creative and non-critical learning of classics for many years before finally being allowed the freedom to express their own critical thoughts. The modern liberal mind views this as horrible oppression and indoctrination, but in reality, such discipline is necessary for any real worthwhile critical thinking to ever take place. After all, how can you be competent to judge about anything as an ignorant kid?

    Today, the schools and academia instead teach ready-made patterns for ersatz “critical thinking” where students are supposed to “think for themselves” from day one. In reality, of course, this is plainly impossible, and the system produces almost nothing but intellectual duds whose minds remain locked into the fallacies and delusions that serve as basis for this pseudo-critical “thinking.” This system, however, is a perfect means of ideological indoctrination, which is a key factor in its self-perpetuation.

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  210. I work in a field of highly educated people, I have found education matters little when it comes to common sense, social intelligence or emotional IQ – can these things be taught in adulthood? Where they went to school, for how long and what they took doesn’t matter if what they’ve learned doesn’t translate to real life.

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  211. As a general, and informal, summation of my perspective I resent the sort of knee-jerk rejection of the ‘educated woman’.

    As I said before, I can recognize the archetype of the liberal arts degree that become the “unidimensional thinkers who universally take up identical strains of campus activism, and reactionary partisan thinking”, and have an inflated and unjustified sense of their own opinion because they have cursory knowledge of some ‘soft’ topic like English Lit., but this doesn’t negate the importance of the pursuit of genuine wisdom.

    Honestly, I don’t have huge career ambitions. I don’t even know what I want to be “when I grow up”, but I know that I love learning philosophy and it’s given me insight into my own ignorance, and epidemic ignorance in general, which was important for me to understand.

    Of the few men I’ve had in my life, I think they genuinely appreciated this. It hasn’t detracted from my ability to be a loving, caring, feminine woman. It’s enriched my ability to satisfy the men I’ve been with on an intellectual level, in addition to an emotional and sexual one. Not to say that I’ve been in any way their intellectual equals, but the virtue of wanting to better myself was important to them.

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  212. Vladimir,

    When you read about the old days, it is striking how students used to be under iron discipline of utterly non-creative and non-critical learning of classics for many years before finally being allowed the freedom to express their own critical thoughts.

    This is interesting, but distinct from “real” philosophical practice. I recognize this the most in English Lit. where post-modernism and other such academically faddish concepts and notions allow complete eradication of all objective categories. Philosophy attempts to reinstate objectivity, even deconstructionism when properly applied. But I wholeheartedly agree with your point.

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  213. Aoefe,

    I have found education matters little when it comes to common sense, social intelligence or emotional IQ

    …and common sense, social intelligence, and emotional IQ matters little when it comes to real IQ, an understanding of abstract concepts & sophisticated notions, and of course, the ability to properly articulate your ideas. Well-roundedness is important, obviously, and obviously the ability to excel in both spheres is more advantageous than mastery in one over the other.

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  214. on November 4, 2009 at 1:48 am unlearning genius

    @Vladimir

    “Today, the schools and academia instead teach ready-made patterns for ersatz “critical thinking” where students are supposed to “think for themselves” from day one. In reality, of course, this is plainly impossible, and the system produces almost nothing but intellectual duds whose minds remain locked into the fallacies and delusions that serve as basis for this pseudo-critical “thinking.” This system, however, is a perfect means of ideological indoctrination, which is a key factor in its self-perpetuation.”

    Academic reasoning apart, true to form logical thinking is really useless in the real world. Real world is mostly improvised bayesian inferring. For social reasoning this kind of logical thinking is actually counter productive, we already have a very good intuitive-heuristic system for social reasoning anyways.

    I understand that kahneman has made himself a legend with the “human beings aren’t good at thinking clearly” line, but in any area other than the hard sciences, reliance on quantitative data is dubious as a practice. Generalizing this observation it follows that logical thinking is also not really that useful in real life. A bigger worry is that kids will not turn out to be street smart and instead become autistic logical machines.

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  215. unlearning genius,

    If we learned only what we had to for existence in the ‘real world’, where would we be? Isn’t self-betterment and striving for advancement inherently a good thing?

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  216. on November 4, 2009 at 1:56 am unlearning genius

    @СОФИЯ/sofia
    “…and common sense, social intelligence, and emotional IQ matters little when it comes to real IQ, an understanding of abstract concepts & sophisticated notions, and of course, the ability to properly articulate your ideas. Well-roundedness is important, obviously, and obviously the ability to excel in both spheres is more advantageous than mastery in one over the other. ”

    There you go, the lady puts it far more eloquently than I and I am guessing she is not familiar with the literature on heuristics and biases.

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  217. on November 4, 2009 at 2:01 am unlearning genius

    @СОФИЯ/sofia,
    “If we learned only what we had to for existence in the ‘real world’, where would we be? Isn’t self-betterment and striving for advancement inherently a good thing?”

    Is the lady implying that logical thinking and learning from other people’s observations is the best route to this advancement. I agrre to some extent, but there is certainly a point of diminishing returns with the so called “learning” …

    I am reminded of picasso, picasso was exteremely talented at painting realism ..in his own words .. “he had to learn hard how to draw like a child” … I am at this stage in life, burdened with too much reading, i wish to be able to think like an unburdened mind.

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  218. unlearning genius:

    Academic reasoning apart, true to form logical thinking is really useless in the real world. Real world is mostly improvised bayesian inferring. For social reasoning this kind of logical thinking is actually counter productive, we already have a very good intuitive-heuristic system for social reasoning anyways.

    That’s certainly true (though I could take issue with the “Bayesian” part). But what the academia teach nowadays — except for the engineering, exact sciences, and various narrowly specialized and apolitical topics in other areas — has no connection with the real-world common-sense knowledge and reasoning either. It’s just a huge pile of ideologically motivated falsities and fallacies that doesn’t hold water in any context, quite akin to the way Marxist-Leninist history, philosophy, etc. were taught in the Soviet Union. (Except that the present system is much better at actual indoctrination, as opposed to merely producing obedient but poker-faced nods.)

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  219. Roissy:

    In general I think your writing is good, but this entry borders on flowerly unhinged. Separate your clauses into sentences, or use semicolons, for gawd’s sake.

    That having been said, yeah, the masses are asses. I think Alexander Hamilton said that. The problem is that sometimes, the question creeps upon one’s consciousness, “Am I an ass, too?”

    And in the end, the planet will be a ball of ice racing towards the dying, supernova-ing sun anyway. Who cares if idiots multiply and take over the world like so many unkillable cockroaches in the darkened kitchen of the endtimes? So long as they’re happy. (And I’m dead so I don’t have to witness it. And I will be.)

    XOXO

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  220. СОФИЯ/sofia:“Is “that sort of ‘ambition’” really altogether worthless in your eyes? I think being educated and all those other undesireable qualities you mentioned can be mutually collaborative, but also mutually exclusive. Can you not admire the woman who tries in earnest to expand her mind? Even through formal education?”

    It’s pretty much irrelevant to me. It is a great folly of modern women they think their silly masters degree is meaningful to a man. It’s not, at least not to a man who is an actual man. What characteristic does a masters degree select for which I would even remotely be interested in? Femininity? Strength of character? Propensity to iron my shirts? Sexual skill? Genetic fitness? No, a masters degree pretty much anti correlates with all of these things.

    Mostly, higher education gives women big egos for jumping through a stupid firey hoop. I mean, hey; good for them if it makes them happy. I don’t understand why they think it makes them hotter though, because it really doesn’t. Girls who think their masters degree makes them hot are like dudes who think their really excellent Star Trek action figure collection makes them hot. Except there are no dudes who are stupid enough to think that.

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  221. Also —

    “And upper class alpha males used to fuck and breed with their hot secretaries until said secretaries began going to college and getting higher paying jobs. Now, because of peer pressure, social finger wagging, or expedience, alpha males have forsaken fucking hot lower class women in favor of co-worker lawyer cunts, and the result has been a ghettoization of the genetic misfits to breed exclusively among themselves. Spread that upper class alpha seed around and you begin to rebuild the common mission and shared trust of a nation, one recombined double helix at a time.”

    Not saying I disagree, necessarily. I’m just not sure if you’re right that upper-class alpha males fucking hot lower-class females is doing society any favors. An example that comes to mind: Strom Thurmond, long-serving senator from S. Carolina, who impregnated his teen-aged, black maid during the 1930s or so. He did right by their child, by the standards of his day, by the way. But I don’t know how his actions there were necessarily good for any eugenicist view of society, if you are subscribing to that view.

    Even Henry VIII recognized the importance of having a male son with a lawfully married wife (the queen). He had sons with various mistresses, but they didn’t count. The institution of marriage meant something in those days, even if “in name only.” Maybe the “name” is all that’s important. In a previous post, I mused that marriage meant nothing these days. Maybe I’m wrong, insofar as the “name” of marriage still counts for something, albeit in some formalist way.

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  222. Lupo,

    Like I said, being intelligent and being feminine, sweet, loving, attractive, or nurturing aren’t mutually exclusive qualities.

    No man is going to be ‘turned on’ by an MA in and of itself. But the kind of qualities that drive some women to be educated entail things like a general drive for personal self-betterment (external to a career). Also, isn’t it nice to have a quasi-intelligent conversation with someone you love once in a while?

    Obviously, physical attributes are hugely important, but they can be compounded by other factors, no?

    I don’t think I’ve met a man who was ever ‘turned off’ by my intelligence, but I have been with boyfriends who appreciated it as it allowed them to connect with me on an additional level. Basically, the reactions to it have been neutral, appreciative, or impressed — not that it’s anything to be impressed by, just in relation to lower-IQ people.

    It IS a turn-off if coupled with unjustified snobbery, especially if the woman is unattractive.

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  223. sofia:

    I’m currently in undergraduate and don’t see the ostensible pervasiveness of academic feminism outside of those two aforementioned fields.

    You don’t see it for the same reason fish don’t see water. In the academia and the rest of the intellectual establishment, it has simply won so absolutely that it has become a part of the basic assumptions about the world which nobody sane is supposed to question. Try however seriously arguing against it, or any other part of the established ideology, and see where it gets you.

    Honestly, whenever I hear those pompous platitudes about “atmosphere of free inquiry” and the like coming from the academia, I’m reminded of the 1936 Soviet constitution solemnly proclaiming freedoms of speech and religion.

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  224. on November 4, 2009 at 2:22 am unlearning genius

    @Vlad,

    “But what the academia teach nowadays — except for the engineering, exact sciences, and various narrowly specialized and apolitical topics in other areas — has no connection with the real-world common-sense knowledge and reasoning either.”

    But most liberal arts “education” is really only a social signaling activity ( I am guessing you are familiar with Robin Hanson’s ideas on signaling). The fact that you can wile away your time with a liberal arts degree instead of having to learn a skill of economic value implies that most of these kids will not “use” their education other than to signal mate value to people in their own social class. Thus no harm is being done at all. Besides what exactly is real-world-common sense anyways and how would you even go ahead teaching that. College education does not have a value other than that of signaling quality to potential hires. Living a life everyday, everybody learns.

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  225. Vladimir,

    You don’t see it for the same reason fish don’t see water.

    Feminism isn’t a valid philosophy for the mere virtue of being inconsistent, incohesive, inchoate, and foundationally flawed in its blind equalism and utopic (or dystopic?) gender neutralization. Not ONE professor in the faculty of philosophy at my school would refute this, and I go to one of the better schools in the world. Feminism is simply a non-issue when you’re discussing symbolic logic.

    However, it is pervasive in any sort of interpretative discourse, like in English or Sociology and even PolSci.

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  226. СОФИЯ/sofia/Anon“Also, isn’t it nice to have a quasi-intelligent conversation with someone you love once in a while?”

    Brother Lupo is perfectly capable of talking to himself, should such a thing become necessary.

    My Yoda, a small wrinkled chinaman by the name of Dr. Lao, once pointed out to me that if I want to have an “intelligent conversation,” I should make friends in the local bowling alley. I’ve dated really smart lady atomic physicists (mostly because they were there mind you); I even lived with one: you know how often we’ve spoken about the wonders of quantum mechanics? About as often as “it never fookin happened, yo.” The closest thing to that might have been me going on an alcohol fueled tirade about Bohmian pilot waves, and her going, “gee, you’re smart: hey look, I’m naked.” I mean, the “conversation” was nice, but no Ph.D. was necessary.

    “Obviously, physical attributes are hugely important, but they can be compounded by other factors, no?”

    You think people are just brains and meat, eh? Do you have a masters degree? Character, soul, spiritual balance and healthiness are far more important than anything designated by a masters degree.

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  227. unlearning genius:

    But most liberal arts “education” is really only a social signaling activity ( I am guessing you are familiar with Robin Hanson’s ideas on signaling). […] Thus no harm is being done at all.

    I am well familiar with the ideas of Hanson and Caplan on this issue, and I have to say that they are mostly true, but only half the story. If you want me to speak in their language, I’ll say that this signaling infrastructure results in lots of rent-seeking and nasty externalities — certainly much more than they would be ready to admit, being professional members of that infrastructure themselves.

    Thus, I vehemently disagree that “no harm is being done at all.” Furthermore, in addition to Hanson’s and Caplan’s theories, there are other important things that an academic degree is signaling nowadays, which for some reason neither of them is aware of or willing to discuss, and which lead to much more ideologically charged questions. By this I mean the signaling value of one’s ability to come out of a strongly PC-policed environment with a good record, and how it connects to the other ways the present establishment is regulating and re-engineering society.

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  228. Lupo,

    Sometimes you can have an intelligent conversation without discussing anything intelligent in a designated way. I think there’s an intuitive level of understanding when you’re both on the same level intellectually. Have you ever stared into vacant eyes before? It’s a very empty feeling.

    And no, I don’t have a masters degree. I’m barely 20, wading my way through a specialist in philosophy, and I can’t figure out what I want to do with my life. In fact, I’m refreshing Roissy as a sidenote to reading Leibniz.

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  229. on November 4, 2009 at 2:59 am unlearning genius

    @Lupo,

    “Character, soul, spiritual balance and healthiness are far more important than anything designated by a masters degree ”

    you talk as if these things actually mean something. Basically you felt good fucking somebody and hanging with them .. everything else was post rationalization .. These constructs do not really mean much ..

    What is an intelligent conversation anyways? Does it involve learning transfer from another person, does it involve debiasing yourself? .. rarely .. most often it is just mutual social signaling and acknowledgment. How many vastly superior brilliant people have you hung out with socially on a regular basis?

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  230. sofia:

    Feminism isn’t a valid philosophy for the mere virtue of being inconsistent, incohesive, inchoate, and foundationally flawed in its blind equalism and utopic (or dystopic?) gender neutralization. Not ONE professor in the faculty of philosophy at my school would refute this, and I go to one of the better schools in the world. Feminism is simply a non-issue when you’re discussing symbolic logic.

    However, it is pervasive in any sort of interpretative discourse, like in English or Sociology and even PolSci.

    Well, analytic philosophy is indeed one of the oases of sanity in modern academia, I’ll certainly grant you that. However, this is possible only because it addresses highly abstract and formal topics where even the deepest ideological disagreements simply don’t matter. However, as soon as any concrete politically sensitive questions are reached, deviating from the party line is a career-killing move, as your other examples confirm. And during four years of university, most people will soak up the party line one way or another, even if their main field of study is highly technical.

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  231. Tupac Chopra,

    Unfortunately a part of that substrate is the wealth-TRANSFERRING class of the financial sector that has fucked this country big time. All dem Joos with their clever little financial schemes.

    I’m sure it was good for them, though.

    Excellent point. James Bowery has provided some great commentary on these topics here, here, and here.

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  232. on November 4, 2009 at 3:11 am unlearning genius

    @Vlad,

    ” I mean the signaling value of one’s ability to come out of a strongly PC-policed environment with a good record, and how it connects to the other ways the present establishment is regulating and re-engineering society ”

    In any time and society there are social mores and fashions. When you adhere to these mores you are an ingroup member and you have to fight for status within that group by paying lip-service to the accepted values. You are ranked according to the mostly arbitrary ranking mosaic. But by being totally blase about the values and even offensively flaunting the mores, you signal outgroup status. Some will accord you a higher status some will treat you as an out-group omega.
    Actually it is a high risk high gain signaling strategy to be defiant.

    The establishment will always seek to bend people to its ways. The meek will always follow the rules, the really foolish will flaunt defiance aggressively .. the real clever however follow or break the rules as and when they see convenient.

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  233. some unlearning person: “How many vastly superior brilliant people have you hung out with socially on a regular basis?”

    Hm, well, one of my gym buddies invented string theory, and a cool old guy who lived in my apartment building did pretty good in cosmic ray physics. Also, one of my best friends makes A-bombs. Does that count? None of them were chicks, oddly enough. I am also pretty sure Dr. Lao was smarter than me too, but he fixed cars for a living.

    СОФИЯ/sofia“I’m barely 20”

    Well, that’s a pretty good excuse. Anyway, just keep in mind what I told you. It’s way worse being in a room of “smart” people who are as dumb as a box full of gravel than it is dating a woman who is mentally unaccomplished in some kind of traditional sense: I speak from experience. I get more vacant looks from idjits with masters degrees than I do from proper ladies who can play the piano. Solipsism is a sin; don’t think what you find attractive in a man is also attractive to a man, because it ain’t.

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  234. unlearning genius:

    In any time and society there are social mores and fashions. When you adhere to these mores you are an ingroup member and you have to fight for status within that group by paying lip-service to the accepted values. You are ranked according to the mostly arbitrary ranking mosaic. But by being totally blase about the values and even offensively flaunting the mores, you signal outgroup status. Some will accord you a higher status some will treat you as an out-group omega.
    Actually it is a high risk high gain signaling strategy to be defiant.

    That’s all true, but far too vague. I have some much more concrete ideas about the specific patterns of signaling that take place nowadays, though I’m afraid it’s a topic too complex to be worth opening as the 300th comment on a blog post.

    Moreover, one objection that I have to your above summary is that it assumes a steady state with mores and fashions that, even if constantly changing, still exist as an independent backdrop for the signaling games. Yet, the problem is that signaling games can result in a feedback loop whee mores and fashions get shifted out of control and eventually pushed into dangerous territory as a result of signaling. I think this is what’s in fact been happening.

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  235. @sofia- you’re not really hearing (reading) or understanding what a lot of smart folks are taking the time to tell you. understanding philosophy or having a higher education in general DOES NOT make you more attractive – the opposite, actually, as higher education correlates negatively with femininity and common sense. if you are pursuing your passion, that’s awesome, and have at it, but don’t imagine it will help you on the dating market. not that you need that – you’re young and attractive, and have enough moxie to take h e biker dudes on a first date. just refrainfrom talking about leibnitz and you’ll be great. also, why the slavic script? you’re indian and spanish. i asked where you’re from on the other thread because i thought it was a different sofia.

    @vladimir- great points about the academy, and especially about a BA in bullshit humanities studies being nothing more than a signaling device, a finishing school for the PC upper class. never thought about it that way before.

    @clio- ah, so you know there’s more to our fair city than rude subway pushers and misanthropic bloggers. and ghastly weather in the summer. maybe you were at the new(ish) Embassy on Penn Ave. i’ve never been to ottawa but i know a number of folks at Industry Canada and they are great people.

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  236. on November 4, 2009 at 3:36 am unlearning genius

    @Lupo,
    “some unlearning person:”
    a not so clever diss!

    “Hm, well, one of my gym buddies invented string theory, and a cool old guy who lived in my apartment building did pretty good in cosmic ray physics. Also, one of my best friends makes A-bombs. Does that count? ”

    That is my whole point. You are hung up on some societal convention for what brilliance is. These people are not vastly superior to you or me at all. They just have some arcane knowledge that society deems as “cool”.

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  237. maurice,

    I’m not talking so much about the attraction phase, as I am the relationship phase. I think I’ve focused unduly too much on the academic aspect of what I just mean to label “self-betterment.” Like I said, the kind of woman who pursues education out of a genuine love for wisdom wants to improve herself generally, and this is NOT exclusive to being feminine. But then I got caught up defending philosophy.

    Think of two women, both equal in physical attractiveness and demeanour. One is closer to your IQ than the other. Which one would you prefer? I can’t date a man who would prefer the lower IQ woman. I also have a specific attraction niche, so maybe this is just relevant to me and not anyone else!? But doubtful.

    Also, I think Cyrillic is pretty. That is all.

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  238. In simple terms: smart > stupid.

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  239. on November 4, 2009 at 3:52 am unlearning genius

    @СОФИЯ/sofia,

    You are 20, even if you were reciting the bible all day long, men would still bang you .. if you let them.

    “self-betterment” .. just read regurgitate some smart sounding words and names like lupo (string theory, chaos, black swan will do just fine) and smile happily at the guy, he will think you are brilliant. It is really “that” easy. Now if you are not good looking, well then not even god can save you!

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  240. UG: “These people are not vastly superior to you or me at all.”

    Hey, I live in Berkeley: I take what I can get. When it comes right down to it, I listen to Dr. Lao’s advice over all the others, because unlike them dudes who have accomplished fancy meaningless things like the ability to destroy entire nations, he is actually wise. I’m not being sarcastic either, and I really do think “wisdom” is a real thing that Dr. Lao is in possession of.

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  241. @sofia – depends. as vladimir and others have pointed out, higher education is typically (or at least comes along with) indoctrination of feminist dogma, which makes a woman immeasurably less appealing to any man who is not a desperate beta. so with *that* kind of education, the less educated woman is more sexually appealing, all other things being equal.

    that said, my wife is well educated (finishing a PhD, eventually) and can regurgitate some of the dogma with the best of them. but she has a politically incorrect sensibility and sense of humor, and any more is totally disenchanted from academia. also, she’s from latin america, so has more traditional sex roles ingrained, even as her indoctrination leads her in the other direction.

    point is, we’re beating up on you a little here, but not all is lost if you retain your common sense, humor, humility, and (above all) good looks! 🙂

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  242. on November 4, 2009 at 4:16 am Venusian Arts Knack

    Roissy, I wish it were as simple as building a wall. Unfortunatly, it wont work WITHOUT active military guarding the boarders.

    There was an episode of Penn and Tellers “Bullshit” in which they had 3 teams of 2 mexicans tackle the “wall on the border.

    One team was to go over the wall, one dig under the wall, and the last team go literally THROUGH the wall.

    The team that went through the wall was fastest, and got through in in about 40 seconds. The ones digging under it got through in about 1 and a half minutes and those going over it, clocked in at about 3 minutes.

    As with anything, the ultimate backing for immigration has to be the willingness to use FORCE. We have not been willing to do that since Ronald Reagan’s first amnisty program. Even then it was very light force with no teeth.

    Without us willing to fight to protect our nations borders, a wall is a 3 minute delay in an illegals travel time… as a best case. As a worse case it is a huge waste of money.

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  243. ””””Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women. ””””’

    Works out pretty well your you, Roissy. Funny, that.

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  244. I do not belileve in god , but Amen to that…

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  245. on November 4, 2009 at 5:41 am Tom Leykis Jr

    @maurice

    You will like the perspective on feminism at
    http://www.henrymakow.com

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  246. Hold the phone – “askjoe” agreed with me about something.
    Some crazy shit going on with this blog when that happens.

    ~
    Eugenics is a copout and it followers erroneously used and abused Darwins theory to make their shit sound correct. Darwins theory actually disproves Eugenics – but arguing that fact wouldn’t have gone down well with its followers – some very powerful historical figures actually believed in Eugenics – Churchill for one, supposedly.

    The Nazis obviously took it to the extreme with their “Superior Ayran Race” bullshit. Taking it to the extreme requires the co-operation of an audience. In the Nazis case it was the average German worker fucked over by the Treaty of Versailles (initally – use of force came later).
    Someone mentioned Aldous Huxley in a previous post. Huxley writes about political uses of “Crowd Delirium” in his book “The Devils of Loudun”. History keeps repeating.

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  247. Some of the most heartfelt articles on this blog tend to be demands that society fall apart so that, Come the Collapse, the writer can say, “I told you so.”

    But the United States has a long history of ignoring these demands. The country has been undergoing demographic changes since its founding, all of which were predicted to result in The End, and none of which actually did. Other specific evils currently cited by the Collapse Cult — expanded voting rights, Social Security — became institutions at the same time the U.S. was rising to become the world’s only superpower. Somehow they didn’t get in the way.

    Ironically, the bizarre proposals of the Collapse Cultists probably would result in the chaos and decline they claim to fear. Roll back female voting rights and eliminate Social Security? Hmm, let’s see, if we could only make half of the population feel radically less invested in their country and substantially raise the probability for everyone that a lifetime of work would be rewarded with starvation in the streets…yes, yes, that is sure to make the country more peaceful and productive!

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  248. Sofia:

    People turn themselves into empty reactionaries anytime they criticize that which they do not comprehend. I have three master’s degrees and three financial certifications, read ancient history from original sources and speak several languages. Yet, I’m still more comfortable among working men than among so called educated people. Education is a good thing but it creates a lot of pretension and foolish dogma. I can only shake my head at what passes for intellectual discourse in most universities these days.

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  249. ahhh…this made my morning coffee taste sweeter, good read. I’ve been known to shoot a petite bird myself all over this damn city.
    Tyrone: oh so very true. Years ago, education used to open people up and now I find the over-educated some of the most narrow-minded, not to mention boring as all hell.

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  250. on November 4, 2009 at 9:14 am Sir_Chancealot

    Roissy said “Alpha males need to start fucking and having babies with hot lower class women.”

    For once, I disagree with you. Merely breeding will NOT solve the problem. In all actuality, that has been what has CAUSED the problem in the first place.

    Limiting “alpha males” to your definition of (paraphrased) “Men who get laid”, those have been the exact types who HAVE been breeding the last 30 years.

    The problem is that there are NO consequences to women who breed with shit men (be they alpha or no). Another problem is men not sticking around to raise their kids.

    A kid raised by a single mother (never married or divorced) is MUCH more likely to be a criminal, flunk out of school, be on drugs, commit suicide, and a whole host of other issues. Strangely enough, this does NOT include children of women who have been widowed.

    Here is a good quote to remember, said to our class by a history professor: “Manners were invented by the bourgeois to appear as the nobility”.

    Be careful in asking to return to the old ways. After all, nobility were nobility BY BIRTH, not by virtue of “good looks”, “class”, “merit”, nor “athletic ability”, but by simply who their parents were. In fact, throughout history, a great many of the “nobility” were, in fact, without even the class that your “redneck hillbillies” exhibited. A “gentleman” could whip out his cock and stir the mashed potatoes at a dinner party, and still be considered a “gentleman”. It had nothing to do with “manners” or “class”.

    Learn your history, or you are doomed to repeat it.

    What makes a society stable is the myriads of “betas” having a stake in said society, through families. Once society breaks down, and the betas no longer have a vested interest, a fair number of them will actually “revert” to being alphas, and in ways that are NOT helpful to society at large.

    Western Society, specifically the USA, is doomed. We rose faster than any other society to prominence, and we will fall faster than any other society. Enjoy the ride while it lasts.

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  251. I had never read a post that identified with me so much.

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  252. This whole post is just a bit odd. The family/dad described seem to have more stronger traits than the average DC herb. In fact, I would suggest that the average DC herb should act more like this family. Obviously the family is a bit trashy, but well, such is life in a big city. Whats the point again?

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  253. feministx.blogspot.com said:
    “The ficitonal thing about you glaring at orc family for bullying the Asian girl makes up for all gina tingles lost in the previous post. White knighting is divine when performed by a man who’s ordinarily rakish.”

    Damn, point for feminstx. I don’t really like her, but she hits the nail on the head here. This was white knighting.

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  254. Roissy & Crew,

    Here’s an article from CNN to ‘American Women’. Enjoy…

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/11/02/collins.everything.changed.women/index.html

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  255. on November 4, 2009 at 9:56 am Velvetgunther

    I wouldn’t condone the hillbillies’ behaviour, but I also hate it when somebody tries to pass me on the escalator.

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  256. labels to the left of me.
    labels to the right.
    here i am.
    stuck in the middle again.

    all that matters is this:
    is it true or is it false?

    @Roissy,
    In your world view, you attribute behavior to libido, which more accurately should be attributed to money.

    Women are more loyal to their purses than to their libidos.

    In my county, 50% of all babies are born to single women.
    This makes perfect financial sense.
    Women with family incomes of less than $35,000 are Medicaid beneficiaries, including the health benefits, such as maternity care. Why would a woman marry, if her single income is $35,000 or less? After the baby is born, she’ll qualify for gov’t-assisted food, gov’t assisted housing, gov’t-assisted transportation, and even trivial stuff like park district passes.

    Have you visited a homeless shelter recently? The gender ratio is about 10/1 males to women. Having a baby will lift a woman out of homelessness and into gov’t-assisted housing fast. They go to the top of the priority list.

    My point is that much of what you attribute to mating/breeding behavior, could be more accurately ascribed to welfare/ entitlement behavior.

    Lastly, which way does this work? Childless people become pessimistic…………or…………pessimistic people opt to be childless.?

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  257. Eugenics is here.

    [“NEW YORK, Nov. 2 (UPI) — The number of babies with Down syndrome carried to term in the United States has declined to single digit percentages, officials say.

    Approximately 92 percent of American women with prenatal diagnoses of Down syndrome babies chose abortion,”]

    http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2009/11/02/Fewer-Down-syndrome-births-reported/UPI-10881257202015/

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  258. I LOATHE it when people — usually well meaning but clueless tourists — stand on the left side of the escalator. But a firm “excuse me” always gets them to scoot aside.

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  259. @Ruby,
    Let me ask y’all a question on behalf of a friend :
    Which profession is less Alpha for a man in mid-level medical practice…
    That of a “Nurse” (a field traditionally associated and dominated by women) or “Physician Assistant” (a field that was started in recognition of the exceptional practical skills of Special Operations Medics post-Vietnam, but who’s name and position are inherently a ‘Demonstration of Lower Value’)?

    Nurses operate increasingly independently, have more breath and depth of career options, and incomes are about equal to PAs. With more and more male nurses, the gender stereotypes are diminishing.

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  260. @Kevin K.

    I spent Halloween weekend with my sister in ex-urban Philadelphia. My sister has 3 kids and both my bro-in-law and my sister have PhDs in engineering and have high-paying corporate jobs. They have 3 beautiful kids who excel in school and who listen and clean their rooms. They live in a huge house on a street of huge houses in rural Pennsylvania which is leafy and gorgeous in the fall.

    I watched my 9-year old nephew play soccer on a drizzly Sunday morning. The other parents were like my sister and bro-in-law, educated and affluent from corporate jobs. Everyone was nice. Even the multitude of pets were well-behaved. I won’t say there weren’t fat people, but there weren’t any fat kids, even on the sidelines. Also, everyone was white, except one hispanic kid.

    I spent some of the game talking to a guy about how he was restoring a 140-year old farmhouse. My sister also talked to me about how she thought some of my nieces classmates were “slutty” and that the women were thinking of ways to isolate their daughters from them.

    Though they probably would never admit it, their strategy is the same as Roissy’s. Move the fuck out the city and get away from the losers. They don’t vote that way, but that’s the way they live.

    This is a tragic childhood for your nephew and niece. Without getting into brawls with aggressive African/American 5th grade girls, your nephew/niece with grow up to be SWPLEs. Being nieve, they will guilt themselves into leftist liberal voting.

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  261. Re. Kevin & Anony above:

    – Bad: living among losers but being forbidden to fight them or openly hate them

    – Good: living far from losers and growing up clueless about them and a sissy

    – Best: having some exposure to losers and being free to fight them and hate them

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  262. Of course, by “losers” I don’t mean “unfortunate but harmless” people; I am referring to people who are violent and hostile.

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  263. ironrailsironweights

    Oh my, this is so tasty.

    Peter

    nice pic,
    but we already know
    you’d require
    bidets

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  264. Maurice,
    I loved many things about Washington, but I found it a city in which it was nearly impossible to make friends. The man on the subway who knocked me down without apologising was typical of the me-first ambitious types I met everywhere in DC, and he was the last straw.

    Regarding education: I don’t think Sofia or most other women are under any illusions about whether education or ambition will make them more attractive to men. That’s not why we do it. If we have a scholarly bent, we do it because we feel a compulsion to acquire knowledge.

    We may be deluded in thinking that it makes us LESS attractive – when in fact it may make no difference, since it’s not what men consider important in a woman. Not sure, though. Fellows, answer me this: can an otherwise sexually attractive woman destroy her appeal to you through *too much* education? That’s really the more interesting point. From what some of you say, it appears that she can.

    Meanwhile, intelligence, self-improvement, and the cultivation of accomplishments like opera-singing, don’t necessarily require formal education, but they probably do require high intelligence. Where I think that some male commentators here are mistaken is in suggesting that intelligence itself makes no difference to a woman’s appeal. I suspect that in fact it does make a great difference, though they may not be able to perceive it at work. A smart woman may not have to be a physicist, or if she is, to discuss physics all the time to prove it. But she can and will demonstrate her intelligence in other ways, I think, including her lucidity and understanding, in even her most casual conversations.

    The historian Macaulay once wrote of a girl to whom he was briefly attracted, “her conversation soon healed the wound made by her eyes”, by which I think he meant that she was such a silly twit that he couldn’t stand to listen to her.

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  265. on November 4, 2009 at 11:33 am Dr. Grzlickson

    @ ironrailsironweights

    Please take that GNP crap to Obsidian’s blog. Kill two birds with one stone.

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  266. Awesome post, sir. I hope we will be graced with more social commentary in the future.

    And to those that earlier in this thread accused Roissy of harboring racist views, even a cursory review of Roissy posts should dispel that myth. Consider, for example, the fact that the focus of Roissy’s contempt in this post was focused on a white family. In other words, Roissy is an equal opportunity hater and we love him for it.

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  267. Roissy,

    I wonder how you felt about white knighting for the small asian chick. Sure she may have not seen it, and you may not have been consciously aware but the thing about white knighting is that it works both ways. If you saw her again you’d strike up a conversation with her about what you saw and have glowing kind eyes. I bet you could manage a chub for her now.

    Don’t deny it but there’s a fantasy that we all have of standing up for the small but kind-of-cute woman. We know this chick is more useful to the world than her size suggests. We want to protect her and make her gina tingle.

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  268. @clio – too much education, no; the wrong kind of education, yes. if it turns an otherwise pleasant feminine woman into a raging feminist shrew, at the extreme. if it deepens her understanding of the world and life without imparting false values or ideological cant – sure. better.

    sorry you didn’t have a good experience in DC – it’s a city full of transients and transplants, which may explain what you experienced. but i’m one of the few natives to the region and it is home to me, for good and ill. so you traded ghastly summers for ghastly winters.

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  269. ”””””PA
    Re. Kevin & Anony above:

    – Bad: living among losers but being forbidden to fight them or openly hate them

    – Good: living far from losers and growing up clueless about them and a sissy

    – Best: having some exposure to losers and being free to fight them and hate them”””””’

    Yea my son gonna see people who farm the land living in tents during harvest season. Of course he is also gonna learn how to thresh rice by hand. Which is not so hard I suppose. But yea poor and rich in the same area. All people none so scared of the other that they need to run away. Might be because they all pretty much same race/culture. Might be a factor. And they all pretty much work or die.

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  270. You don’t have one family trying to make money working and the family next door has everything free. Everyone knows everyone still alive had to get to where they got by doing it themselves so probably lessons animosity maybe.

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  271. clio – “Fellows, answer me this: can an otherwise sexually attractive woman destroy her appeal to you through *too much* education? That’s really the more interesting point. From what some of you say, it appears that she can.”

    Brains and education DOES raise the status of women. This is a problem because when women raise their status, it reduces the number of men they will be happy with. Therefore, its in the man’s interest to prefer women who are lower status (not as smart), so they don’t have to deal with someone who is bored with them.

    An example of this is that about 90% of the women I went to grad school in physics with married a physicist. That may have to do with proximity and lack of competition, but some of them were pretty cute and could have found a better looking person who made more money without a lot of trouble, but they chose to climb this particular social ladder.

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  272. I am sure guys would still fuck me without an education, but I’m positive I couldn’t date any guys in the long term that I do without having one.

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  273. Welfare is among the most evil things created my man. It probably explains the ogerish prole family that Roissy describes.

    America has always had a solid blue collar class that was all about God, country, improvement for one’s kids, and high moral standars. Sailer wrote about this.

    Except at some recent point, American blue collars, maybe like this guy too, realized that no matter how hard they work, how much overtime they put in, how much side-work they do on weekends — there will be public-funds-assisted welfare scum and their thuglets moved to his neighborhood and his kids’ schools.

    Can’t blame the man for his consequent orcish attitude.

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  274. Polichinello

    The redneck could have expressed it better, but he was right. If you’re in such a hurry, use the goddammed stairs

    Generally,
    whites who attack their own lower class
    haven’t actually resided near
    the wonders of
    diverse lower classes

    They have no skin in the game. Not even property.

    They once were branded “Limousine Liberals”
    I think it’s high time that truthful term be reapplied.

    Perhaps today’s version has been duped by years of incessant media double standards in which it’s PC to mock “hillbilly hottubs” and rednecks on TV, but not ghetto trash.
    Still, there’s no valid excuse for repeatedly quaffing leftist Media Kool-Aid.

    Watch Gangland from the safety and comfort of the Family Room on the 60″ Sony plasma while a roaring fire accentuates the glow of rich, Corinthian leather on the new sectional.

    Or, if up for adventure, dress in the usual attire, leave the IPhone on the Chippendale armoire and drive the new Escalade to the “underprivileged side” of town. Slice a tire with the handy pocketknife from Sharper Image and await the tender mercies of wondrous diversity. They love white people there. Tell them you voted for B.O. Or, you ‘applaud’ the Sotomayor appointment.

    We all know having bad teeth and flying the Confederate flag is so much worse than pumping out 9 kids generation after generation who contribute to the economy by employing prison guards.

    That’s why only Carlos Mencia and Dave Chappelle are “allowed” critique of protected classes.

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  275. Kenneth Clark, the cultured English author of “Civilization” once said in response to the question of his politics, to the great surprise of the interviewer, that he was not a Rightist but rather a Nazi. Why, oh why?
    Because he said the Nazis understood one thing well: the upper classes owed the lower classes, and both classes knew it. The First World War proved the loyalty of the lower classes beyond doubt. Conservatives, he said, are just anxious little people who are frightened of life, want to collect their dividends, and not much else.
    True.
    And what does this mean to us? That because we haven’t been invaded in modern times leaves us with an oversupply of anxious little people who listen to “assured” upper middle class types like Roissy. Who in turn really thinks he is one of the elite. Thus the Louis 15th sexual attitude.
    When the Muslims take it to us big-time, you’ll have to learn to count on the lower class white guy you disdain once again. As Michael Scheuer said, this country needs a wake-up call, and will get one.
    This is a weapon, this is a gun…one is for war and one is for fun.
    Real men have chanted this while marching and all others are to be disdained.

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  276. Maurice, make no mistake, I’d take Washington’s climate over Ottawa’s any day. Yes the summers are hard to take, and back in the early 1990s (I don’t know about now) the temperature started to hit the 100s as early as April. But the long, warm, lingering fall season was marvellous, and I loved the crisp sunny winters. I loved the city’s design, too, which made the most of its setting in a way that Ottawa, which has perhaps a more naturally striking setting, does not.

    Part of my problem with living in DC was that I missed my family badly. One of the paradoxical consequences of growing up an embassy brat, as I did, is that you become closer to your family because you’re thrown into each other’s company so much as you move from one place to another.

    BTW, I’m not completely convinced that too much education, and in some cases too much intelligence, won’t ruin some women for men – not merely because they seek out men as intelligent as themselves or more so, but because most men don’t much like being around a woman who is clearly more intelligent than they are.

    I don’t mean intelligent women who are arrogant about it, or who bore people by going on and on about their specialty subjects – I just mean those who are exceptionally bright and make it clear in every word they say. Perhaps some men truly don’t notice one way or another, but that’s not likely if they work in brains-oriented fields themselves.

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  277. the nigger’s proof america is done

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  278. The First World War proved the loyalty of the lower classes beyond doubt.

    That is such a damn good point. Nice post-WW2 gesture of appreciation via Population Replacement, eh?

    It’s like the Neocons under Bush who got the patriotic redneck enlistments for Iraq while pusing imigration and exporting jobs.

    An iron law of history is that derelict upper classes are hanged.

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  279. Pupu —

    Pupu has heard that the Brits drive on the left because knights used to ride on the left side of a road so they could pull out the swords with their right arms and fight in the middle of the road. Anyway, it was all for the convenience of fighting.

    That’s actually the reason for standing on the left — I wasn’t kidding about the samurais.

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  280. Sofia–

    Feminism isn’t a valid philosophy for the mere virtue of being inconsistent, incohesive, inchoate, and foundationally flawed in its blind equalism and utopic (or dystopic?) gender neutralization. Not ONE professor in the faculty of philosophy at my school would refute this, and I go to one of the better schools in the world. Feminism is simply a non-issue when you’re discussing symbolic logic.

    However, it is pervasive in any sort of interpretative discourse, like in English or Sociology and even PolSci.

    Sofia, your argument seems to boil down to claiming that feminism isn’t pervasive in your University’s department of philosophy. That may be. But you haven’t moved me an inch from thinking Vladamir’s right and you’re wrong in your claim that feminism and PC cultural Marxism (in flavors from heavy to light) isn’t pervasive in the social sciences and humanities in North American universities, and if anything the most so in the best of them.

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  281. Sofia–

    Or more precisely, your claim that it isn’t any longer, and that aliasclio was reflecting “old news”.

    Actually I’ve never heard any of your near contemporaries say something similar. Just the reverse.

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  282. OK, I’ll agree with the claim that feminism is pervasive in all interpretive discourse, i.e. most humanities, and social sciences. It doesn’t change the fact that a girl who is smart and attractive trumps merely attractive, all other qualities being the same.

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  283. “………that a girl who is smart and attractive trumps merely attractive”

    Not from a man’s point of view.

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  284. I don’t understand!!

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  285. high self confidence diminishes the girl´s needs of gaining the man´s approval. a smart girl will almost always be a self confident girl.

    a high IQ girl is a different matter. They will be, on average, smarter and more self confident, but not MUCH more.

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  286. seriously wtf…….

    i went to a great school, one of the best in country. ive lived with my lady for 3+ yrs, im 26.

    my girl is really hot. she went to one year at a big state school and dropped out to party.

    i dont want her to be smarter or even as smart as me. its not even something that i think about.

    as smart as you say you are, as smart as you write, as smart as you can smart your smart, as a guy, i do not give a FUCK.

    zunder said: Not from a man’s point of view.

    sometimes i feel like you are trying to out-argue or out-understand or out-smart every single fucking little minutae of every little thing…..

    WHO FKING CARES. IF YOU’RE A HOT GIRL, THE GUY WILL LIKE YOU. IF A GUY ACTS LIKE A GIRL HAS TO BE “SMART” TO HAVE SEX WITH HER, HE HAS ISSUES. PERIOD.

    if the girl is borderline retard, that is one thing. but i think you are placing a little too much emphasis on something that only you care about. maybe im wrong. sometimes u just rub me the wrong way….WTF?!?!?!?

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  287. gotta hand it to you GirlGameGirls. you writin’ some sweet, man-friendly stuff as of late. ya’ll must finally be getting some regular action

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  288. on November 4, 2009 at 2:54 pm Experianced Father

    Chic Noir said:

    >Unfortunately or fortunately fellas, you have to give the
    >poor a little dollars if you want to live peacefully.
    >Otherwise the poor will make everyday life for the
    >wealthy and middle class hellish.

    I take it you have read about the coorelation between crime and Section 8 housing for the poor?

    See:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime

    This is a federally funded housing program that exports the criminal underclass to the suburbs and effectively destroys both the public schools and property values the middle class depend upon.

    It also reinforces white racism to boot.

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  289. for most phsicological features, the harsh reality is that what a gender finds attractive is the opposite of what the other gender finds attractive.

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  290. mark:
    Kenneth Clark, the cultured English author of “Civilization” once said in response to the question of his politics, to the great surprise of the interviewer, that he was not a Rightist but rather a Nazi.

    Yeah, right. Source, please.

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  291. “…the visceral desire I had, given the slightest pretext, to shove his filthy loser face into the escalator machinery, ripping his eyes and mouth and flesh and sinew off the bone and kicking the fat brood sow so hard in her bloated belly she is rendered infertile, as her children mewl helplessly nearby. ”

    Physcopathic.

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  292. wtf sofia,

    Right, so a girl can be a completely manipulative, cheating bitch, as long as she is hot, and you would date her in the long term.

    I’m not reductivizing the importance of physical appearance, but you’re making it sound like relationships are a unidimensional, superficial dynamic. Maybe that’s all you’ve ever experienced.

    You also don’t seem to be listening to me. I’m not arguing that a girl has to have a degree to be an appreciable long-term prospect. I’m saying she has to have esteem for herself, and want to improve herself in all respects, including intellectually — however that may be. The most common route is formal education.

    Why are you taking this so goddamned personally? I’m not arguing for a complete maximization of any principle (i.e. the girl has to have a degree!!) and not looking to get into any turgid categorical imperative arguments, just stating what’s what. Relax.

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  293. Experianced Father

    See:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime

    This article has more unintentional stereotypes than a Pelosi speech. When I read one subject’s name was “Sheniqua” it just reinforced what I already believe.

    Old traditions are/were traditional for a reason – as are maxims.

    It’s just the same old same old “rats deserting a sinking ship”

    You never heard of the Huns (nor the Vandals) rebuilding the Coliseum. Or even a urinal.

    And you won’t hear of Sheniquas, DeLontes or Pedros rebuilding the malls, either.

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  294. gig,

    I see what you’re getting at, but what’s the distinction between a high-IQ and a smart girl? Aren’t they identical?

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  295. (The First World War proved the loyalty of the lower classes beyond doubt.)

    PA: “That is such a damn good point. Nice post-WW2 gesture of appreciation via Population Replacement, eh? It’s like the Neocons under Bush who got the patriotic redneck enlistments for Iraq while pusing imigration and exporting jobs.”

    Exactly. When we get out of this mess and have a land of our own again, we are going to have to address the issue of “elites” in a big way. While it is easy to feel contempt for a certain segment of white orcs, what strikes me as far more important is the massive betrayal of ordinary whites that has been, and is being, pursued by the so called elites.

    The contrast in just a few generations is striking. For example, if you look at old pictures of WWI Tommies, you see a certain look in the eye. Perhaps a playful look, perhaps a sober and “do one’s duty” type of look, but NEVER the dumbed down, cow-like ignorance or just malevolent glint in the eye that one so often sees in their social equivalents today. Keeping in mind that these common men of just a few generations ago were not well educated, and many probably couldn’t have read a simple sentence, and yet their bearing and demeanor were solid. Tommy Atkins may not have been very bright, but he rarely appeared ridiculous.

    These men, who did their duty, who did their best, have been completely sold down the river. Tommy Atkins got suckered big time, and at all levels – cultural, economic, political, etc. In keeping with the British theme, just take a look at the East End today. Race replacement at full steam. Cockney accent disappearing. Send a generation off to get slaughtered, then return the favor by effectively genociding their descendants. Talk about class. Micrososm for what is happening all over the West.

    The problem is not the white orcs. In a decent society, whites are more than capable of dealing with the small minority of white scum. We know how to handle them, or certainly can remember in short order. The problem is what has been done on a much broader scale, and the blame rests squarely with our so called elites.

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  296. WWI was a sucker’s war, plain and simple, especially for the U.S. It was a European tribal conflict that accomplished nothing. Europe blew away 50% of its economic assets in this conflict that produced no winners at all. WWI is probably the most stupid conflict in history. It is incomprehensible that anyone would actually glorify this historical POS.

    I cannot possibly imagine what possessed the then politicos in Washington D.C. to embroil us into this POS conflict, but we did. If I was a young man at the time, I cannot possibly imagine why I would want to risk my life to fight in such a worthless European tribal conflict. That’s what I think about WWI and the stupid politicians that got us into it.

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  297. a high IQ girl is able to perform logical tasks (i.e, working with Microsoft Office, writing essays or solving equations) better than a lower IQ girl.

    it won´t necessarily translate into a “smart” girl, a girl who likes to take the lead, wear pants or ask for popcorn in the cinema

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  298. i fuckin’ love pants. and popcorn.

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  299. My maiden voyage. Here’s a story that ties up sub-threads “The Economist,” “Educated Woman,” “and Loving Femininity” (or the like). A few years ago in Berkeley I got to know a late-20’s woman of Thai-Indonesian extraction who ran her family’s cafe, one of the few places near campus with decent food. Rather nice-looking and then getting a master’s in public health. How about this for a combination of traits: faithful Economist reader; voted for Tom McClintock, the conservative, for Cal. governor; convert to Islam (headscarf) who petitioned university for women-only rec. swim; told me “men are obsolete.” Currently works for Genentech.

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  300. the pants stuff was a metaphor for autorithative girls. And an alpha friend told us that he puts any girl who asks for popcorn herself, instead of waiting for the man the offer, in the pump and dump list

    it is a way to screen “smart” (or authoritative, or self confident) girls for pumping and dumping.

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  301. СОФИЯ/sofia

    I see what you’re getting at, but what’s the distinction between a high-IQ and a smart girl? Aren’t they identical?

    well, its plain to see
    that if you’ve taken gigs and wtf sofias bait,
    you’ve inadvertently revealed the category
    you don’t belong to

    im so done w/u
    mout

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  302. girls shouldn´t bother in making lists of “stuff I shouldn´t do so that he places me in the pump and dump list”

    the beauty of the popcorn example is that it shows that the list of actions a girl can do that indicate she is pump-and-dump-material is endless.

    you are a strong, self-confident modern woman?? You are heading to a choice between accepting a ring from David Alexander or many fluffly cats

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  303. http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/iwontbackdown.html

    the most alpha song in the English Language, slightly ahead of Sinatra´s “My way”.

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  304. on November 4, 2009 at 5:21 pm Experianced Father

    Firepower said:

    >And you won’t hear of Sheniquas, DeLontes or Pedros
    >rebuilding the malls, either.

    There is a very good reason behind the fact that the majority (over 1/2) of Ivy league black students are now 1st generation immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean and not multi-generation native born African-Americans.

    The unintended point of the Atlantic article was that Section 8 housing done on a small scale can save a few people by seperating them from their urban core loser culture.

    These people did better by taking on the cultural norms of the white middle class.

    In so many words, Individual people can be saved, loser cultures cannot.

    Walling off loser cultures in a specific place and giving exceptionally motivated individuals with in it an opportunity to escape it is the best you can do in a representative democracy.

    The Atlantic article showed that if you destroy places like Cabrine Green and try to replacate those early Section 8 housing results on a large scale, and you merely recreate the loser culture elsewhere, in the midst of the suburban middle class.

    The policy results of that include the hollowing out of the inner suburb and medium sized city’s public schools and a further white flight to the exurbs to escape.

    Current Federal Section 8 housing policy is to effectively move the criminal underclass into the middle of mixed working class neighborhoods in suburbs and smaller cities, destroying stable middle class family formation there, and make thousands of mini-Cabrine Greens.

    Thus requiring a bigger social welfare state outside the now less African-American Blue urban core areas.

    Previously white trash culture was isolated, rural, and often shamed into trying to fly right as they had social stigma applied to them.

    Now this loser culture is interrelating with these Federally Funded mini-Cabrine Greens plus trash hip-hop culture to create something approaching the British Chav underclass.

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  305. on November 4, 2009 at 5:59 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    Sofia:

    I’m saying she has to have esteem for herself, and want to improve herself in all respects, including intellectually — however that may be. The most common route is formal education

    My perspective.

    In today’s world, for better or for worse, smart girls pretty much have to go to college. (Yeah, OK, there are exceptions in certain subcultures, but that’s not what I’m talking about.) So college, as in undergrad, is not the issue.

    The issue is chasing advanced degrees, which, to me, pretty much absolutely disqualifies a girl as potential marriage/family material.

    See, here’s how I look at it. A girl chasing advanced degrees will be either (1) quite serious about a career that requires such degrees, or (2) not so.
    The problem is that EITHER of these is a disqualifier for marriage material.
    – The first, because I will simply not deal with a two-high-powered-career household. While my woman won’t necessarily have to stay home 24/7 (and shouldn’t, once the kids are old enough), I’ll be damned if we try to have parallel careers. This is not two-sided: I am absolutely unwilling to make any sort of sacrifices to further my wife’s career.
    – The second, because the purposeless chasing of advanced degrees (where “intellectual fulfillment” is subsumed under purposeless) is really fucking expensive and wasteful. I don’t want a wife who goes in for poor returns on investment.

    There are cheaper, and better, ways to become intellectually fulfilled – and without swimming in the toxic brew of academic postmodernist feminist bullshit.

    And God help you if you think “the most common route” is a positive. Especially for today’s women.

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  306. finefantastic
    “i fuckin’ love pants. and popcorn.”

    Pupu loves pants. Popcorn is controversal — it somehow lacks substance compared to rice crispy treats.

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  307. I am absolutely unwilling to make any sort of sacrifices to further my wife’s career.

    *sigh*

    You, Mr. GMAT, know exactly what inferences people are going to make from this statement.

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  308. This post by Roissy is trying too hard and badly overwritten.

    I suppose when you start getting more popular the quality suffers as you wrongly feel the need for filler. I would rather he just stick to game. When he goes off writing an essay calling a man with wife and children sticking up for his beliefs in a crass manner “omega” (breeding opportunities) instead of what it really is; a lack of social sophistication (lower class), he lowers his own value in the eyes of intelligent readers.

    Stating your views on eugenics and immigration in coy terms shows a lack of conviction and confidence.

    Reminds me of when the Dixie Chicks got so full of themselves they started spouting their political beliefs on stage.

    All in all this was a poor post. It reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WALIARHHLII

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  309. on November 4, 2009 at 6:55 pm magicfingers4

    The west, and its ideals has been corrupted and neutralised by PC speak.

    We’ve had our day , it’s now a matter of preparing for the final battle between Asia and Islam.

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  310. Vlad,Sofia, and Unlearning genius, Chic Noir would like to thank the three of you for giving me much to think about and challenging each other respectfully.

    BTW, Vlad, do you have a blog?

    If not, I think you should try to find time to blog.

    Tyrone fathers no longer have any control or incentives to ensure their offspring grow up to be better people

    But the dad was the parent who taught his son to curse at the Asian lady. The mom, didn’t stop the dad, she laughed along with him.

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  311. Ryder While it is easy to feel contempt for a certain segment of white orcs, what strikes me as far more important is the massive betrayal of ordinary whites that has been, and is being, pursued by the so called elites.

    Nothing is new under the sun. The elites of any group always find a way to get rid of their extras aka trash. Australia, America(both whites and blk), The Carribean for Asians etc…

    Pupu, rice crispy treats will give no a yuck mouth in no time flat.

    Epoxy 87 The issue is chasing advanced degrees, which, to me, pretty much absolutely disqualifies a girl as potential marriage/family material. I am absolutely unwilling to make any sort of sacrifices to further my wife’s career.
    You’re so handsome the things will turn out fine for you either/or.

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  312. To Epoxytocin No. 87 :

    Please, please, PLEASE just make your own blog already!

    It pains me to have to hunt around the Roissysphere to read your incredibly lucid commentary.

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  313. Vladmir–

    Furthermore, in addition to Hanson’s and Caplan’s theories, there are other important things that an academic degree is signaling nowadays, which for some reason neither of them is aware of or willing to discuss, and which lead to much more ideologically charged questions. By this I mean the signaling value of one’s ability to come out of a strongly PC-policed environment with a good record, and how it connects to the other ways the present establishment is regulating and re-engineering society.

    Sharp and original, or at least new to me, way of putting it Vlad.

    No more than that. Way of framing it.

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  314. Epoxy–

    In today’s world, for better or for worse, smart girls pretty much have to go to college. (Yeah, OK, there are exceptions in certain subcultures, but that’s not what I’m talking about.) So college, as in undergrad, is not the issue.

    The issue is chasing advanced degrees, which, to me, pretty much absolutely disqualifies a girl as potential marriage/family material.

    Yes. I thought of writing something similar yesterday.

    I wouldn’t be quite so categorical about masters degrees or similar being terrible though. It’s a girl’s attitude towards it. For instance med school Bhetti wants to and will put her family and kids first and would love to work no time for awhile and part time for a long while post having bambinos. That’s apparently common among female doctors today, e.g. Rum reports.

    I applaud you’re being categorical about which spouse’s career takes precedence though Epoxy. I feel identically.

    And no, I still don’t believe in alimony.

    Gee, with my views more widely adopted the rate of female initiated divorce my just significantly decline.

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  315. Chuck said:

    roissy:

    “pps by spreading the alpha seed around, i mean that alpha males need to get back to the root of what makes them happy — fucking and loving cute chicks, no matter what class those girls hail from.”

    but how can they do that if social mores and such dictate that monogamy is the way to go? you’re advocating polygyny. i’m not opposed to that, but it leaves a lot of men unattached. *this* is the reason for western decline. there’s no way out of this trap. we’re fucked whether we advocate for alpha males looking over harems of women and their offspring, and we’re equally so if we advocate for betas and omegas to have almost equal shots at raising broods of children. in the latter scenario, alpha males will double-bag their condoms, picking the petal from the flower and leaving the seeds

    ******
    Ah, you see… now we have here the ultimate existentialist crisis of the typical guy/beta. By definition, the vast majority of men are beta, and only a tiny sliver of the male population can be alpha, ever. However, much like yipping chihuahuas whose ineffectual (however cute) aggression is fueled by the faint physical memory of the blood of the wild wolf from whom they descend, all betas wish to be alpha. And moreover, they actually think that they have a realistic shot at being alpha. (Some of them cling to this fantasy by saying, “if only I had the right mentor, or followed pick-up artists’ advice, or read Roissy’s blog,” or whatever).

    Anyway, as I was saying, the crisis for betas (read: the majority of men) is this: Should they advocate for a society where betas are the driving force of civilization as we know it, and take their rightful place as said driving force? Or would doing so mean that they give up their fantasy of one day being the alpha harem-keeper, the envy of all men, the love object of all women, and the acknowledged symbol of the hindrance of “civilization” as we know it?

    I’ll conclude by saying that not everybody can be a leader of men. (Or leader of anything.) And the greatest of leaders were once followers. In fact, it’s required. Leaders wouldn’t be leaders if there were no followers. If every guy was a leader, there would be no society. It would just be chaos and anarchy.

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  316. on November 4, 2009 at 9:12 pm You Know I'm Right

    A new and improved 21st Century variant of Fascism/Caesarism will be born in America, with its genesis in the American South (where else?).

    Iron discipline and warrior-values will again be reinstated in to the lower, working, and middle classes. Every male citizen over the age of 25 will work assiduously to the best of his abilities to fulfill three primary roles: (1) warrior-guardian; (2) local farmer, rancher, craftsman, technician, etc; (3) independent scholar/learned gentleman and local politician. Not everyone will live up to this lofty ideal, but those who do will be gradually inducted in to the leadership class of the New Nation.

    Corrupt, traitorous, useless, and effete elites will be expelled and/or executed. The New Nation will be based on the biological realities of blood and race rather than politics, economics, religion, or any other secondary issues. Post-1965 immigrants, Jews, non-White Hispanics, gypsies, and other non-Whites will be expelled from the entire Southland in an orderly fashion. After many centuries of delay we will also finally solve the Negro Problem, likely by humanely moving them in to the North or else by encouraging and helping them to migrate back to their African continent of origin.

    Economic protectionism and local self-sufficiency will become the norm, with local/regional agrarianism and pastoralism being revived and all useless and polluting mass-manufacturing/industrialism outsourced to the decaying overurban North or elsewhere. Ruralization and thus deurbanization will become key policies, rebuilding a locally landed and secure polity who is still intimately connected to each other in a wider sense through the latest transportation and communication technologies. Protection and beautification of the environment for future generations will be a key priority. All of the decaying social, political, economic, and architectural wastes which represent the triumph of modern degeneracy and alien Judaic values/hegemony, all that is useless, ugly, outworn, and outdated, will be torn down or razed and thus either returned to Nature or else replaced by something better.

    Traditional gender roles will be re-established, though exceptional women will of course be allowed to contribute to the society in various constructive ways. Every women of fit body, mind, and soul will be expected to marry and begin having children by her 30th year or else face severe social ostracism and probable expulsion to the multiracial cesspit of Yankee-Judea.

    Eugenics will become the norm — the unfit, the deformed, the retarded, the mixed-race, and so on will never even make it out of the delivery room.

    Judeo-usury, race-mixing, spying, exploitation of fellow Whites, subversion, and other forms of racial or social treachery will be offenses punishable by death.

    Bureaucratic stagnation will be utterly abolished and will be replaced by a strict and vigorous philosophy of ‘actionism.’

    Plato has taught us well in his REPUBLIC.

    SPENGLER — “The coming of Caesarism breaks to dictature of money and its political weapon, democracy. After a long triumph of world-city economy and its interests over political creative force, the political side of life manifests itself after all as the stronger of the two. The sword is victorious over money, the master-will subdues again the plunderer-will. … A power can be overthrown only by another power, not by a principle, and only one power that can confront money is left. Money is overthrown and abolished by blood. Life is alpha and omega, the cosmic stream in microcosmic form. It is the fact of facts within the world-as-history. … And so the drama of a high culture–that wondrous world of deities, arts, thoughts, battles, cities–closes with the return of the pristine facts of blood eternal that is one and the same as the ever-circling cosmic flow.”

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  317. Doug1,

    Thanks.

    It’s funny how academic economists have no problem analyzing education as signaling when it comes to the way educational credentials serve as proxies for intelligence, diligence, leadership skills, and the like, but I’ve never heard of any of them discussing the blatantly obvious question of what signals stem from the ideological environment that surrounds the students in modern universities, which are uniformly hotbeds of political correctness with nearly zero tolerance for dissent.

    One important signal seems to be obvious. Even the best and most productive employee can end up doing more harm than good if he provokes a discrimination or hostile environment lawsuit. If someone has managed to successfully find his way in a tightly PC-policed environment for several years without getting in trouble, this signals a good instinctive ability to abide by the PC norms, which is extremely important in this regard. Thus, from the point of view of employers who fear discrimination and harassment lawsuits, the extreme PC environment of the universities is a useful feature, and this is likely one reason why universities sometimes seem to compete who will go to the furthest extremes in it. It adds real value to their degrees.

    This seems to be an interesting interplay between two forms of social re-engineering imposed by the present liberal establishment: the ideology and indoctrination emanating from its academic nerve centers and the threat of lawsuits that are used to get the business world in line and harness the corporate hierarchy of power for imposing and furthering its ideology.

    There are also other interesting ways in which this sort of signaling can be analyzed, and it’s especially illuminating to seek parallels here with the signaling role of party membership and similar crude mechanisms employed by the apparatuses of various 20th century communist and fascist regimes, whose indoctrination and social re-engineering methods were, of course, far cruder and less effective. It’s a complex topic about which a lot could be written.

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  318. chic noir:

    BTW, Vlad, do you have a blog?

    If not, I think you should try to find time to blog.

    I don’t have one, and I’m reluctant to start it. It would not only be a huge time sink, but it could also result in too much privacy-threatening public exposure.

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  319. “….in once placid regions like small towns and college campuses.”

    regions even, great stuff! roissy, you’re a genius!

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  320. To You Know I’m Right :

    If only you realized how exponentially such a pragmatic platform you have proposed would grow nationally if it WASN’T based on race and soft-lined on a few of the more morally questionable issues.

    Our culture clamors for true Conservative reform.

    May a true Conservative initiate it and not Ideologically Reactionary Forces.

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  321. vlad don’t have one, and I’m reluctant to start it. It would not only be a huge time sink,

    Oh please do, you have many fans here. Besides you could write one post a week or expand on your blog comments.

    but it could also result in too much privacy-threatening public exposure.

    Don’t post your picture and avoid the more controversial topics and people.

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  322. This line of argument regarding immigration is stupid. Time and time again you say that foreign women are better lays than American women and foreign competition keeps American women from getting fat and complacent. But still you want to limit the amount of hot Mexican pussy coming over here? What about cute French foreign exchange students? Slavic beauties?

    Hell, if anything, more genes in the pool might reinvigorate or at least forstall the further deterioration of the underclass.

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  323. on November 5, 2009 at 1:48 am You Know I'm Right

    chris g:”Hell, if anything, more genes in the pool might reinvigorate or at least forstall the further deterioration of the underclass.”

    Race-mixing leads to the decline of civilization(s) and the eventual ruin of all culture(s); see: Latin America, North Africa and most of the entire Middle East, Central Asia, downfall of the Roman Empire and Ancient Greece, etc.

    Brooks Adams’ work on “The Law of Civilization and Decay” is a reprint of the original American edition published in 1896. It was the first of a series of similar treatises and started the line followed, among others, by Spengler. Briefly its thesis is this — “As the attack in war masters the defence, and the combative instinct becomes unnecessary to the preservation of life, the economic supersedes the martial mind, being superior in bread-winning. As velocity augments and competition intensifies, nature begins to sift the economic minds themselves, culling a favoured aristocracy of the craftiest and subtlest types; choosing, for example, the Armenian in Byzantium, the Marwarin India, and the Jew in London.”

    This development is accompanied by declining imagination, declining fear of the unknown, centralization, increasing mercantilism and industrialism (both of which breed heresy and unbelief), declining sensual appeal of women and declining population, until through sheer exhaustion arising from the struggle for existence, the race itself declines, and civilization goes back to await fresh energy from the infusion of barbarian blood into those who represent it.

    Darwin, writing as a biologist, claimed that random breeding destroyed character. When, therefore, we consider, as Sieck points out, the enormous amount of mixing, especially with manumitted Eastern slaves, which must have taken place in the Roman world, long before Constantine ruled, how could it reasonably be expected that the Roman character could remain unchanged? Could that infusion of Oriental blood have made no difference?

    It is here, it seems to me, that Brooks Adams’ work is defective. Nowhere does he give sufficient attention in the influence of stock changes and stock deterioration or modification, through random breeding with peoples who may or may not influence an original type adversely. He refers to the exhaustion of the energy of a race, which occurs under the pressure of economic competition; but is this the only way in which a race may be devitalized? – http://www.anthonymludovici.com/thelawof.htm

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  324. How do you expect someone raised by such pig-humans to turn out? If they get the right combo of genes, do you expect them to suddenly go out and found a Fortune 500 company after a childhood spent naked in the mud?

    It is a tragedy that the people most unable to give their children a good life are the ones who are reproducing, no doubt, but I seriously don’t think you can blame everything on factors beyond anyone’s control. If you take a fatalistic view that these subhumans are un-trainable, un-changeable, and let them wallow, GUESS WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN? That’s right… They’ll fulfill all your wildest expectations.

    All of you are infected with humanity’s selfish disease. A belief that you and you alone matter, that the problems of the human race mean nothing to you, are intractable and not in your best interest to solve. You see these people as little more than the gunk that sticks to the soles of your shoes. You can’t bear to give up anything for anyone else’s benefit. And it’s people like you who are going to cause our downfall.

    The elites in this world, you know the ones… the ones who control the banks and the businesses, the great institutions, the 1% that owns about 1/3rd of the wealth (IIRC)… They think the same way you do. They probably think it quaint, how you look down your nose at someone else, when in the grand scheme of things you’re hardly any better off. Nor are they themselves, since they seem intent on destroying the society that has heretofore supported them. Everyone is pitted against each other, at each other’s throats over invented differences. And it’s to everyone’s detriment.

    I see you and that redneck family, and the bildeburgers and the Rockefellers, as one and the same.

    The next step in human evolution, unless we’re replaced by computers, will be akin to what happened when microbes organized themselves into multi-cellular lifeforms. We need to realize that we’re all basically the same, we all have the same goals, the same desires, and extremely similar ethos. There’s enough food in the world, with appropriate management, to feed everyone. The only problem is us being OK with seeing people outside our clique suffer and die, a vestige from a time when helping others (and not taking advantage of them) might starve you.

    Honestly, I’d rather die with someone who I trusted and who trusted me than put someone else at a disadvantage.

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  325. C’mon. The English Monarchy was fucked for years because their gene pool was so small. The monarchy gets overthrown every so often not because they are somehow smart, because they devolve into slack-jawed ingrates. Nowadays, the monarchy isn’t even really British. The British Monarchy is now actually German. The original name of the House of Windsor was the House of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Before that, there was the House of Hanover, another bunch of Germans running England. “Racial purity” is a fucking joke. Any animal breeder will tell you that mixed breeds are heartier and stronger than their purebred cousins. And heavily mixed women are really hot. There’s this half-Jewish half-Japanese chick at my school and would still be able to fuck her if I was pushing 100 with no Viagra.

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  326. on November 5, 2009 at 4:34 am omegaman93555

    I suggest a definition of terms is called for. Alpha, beta, gamma, omega should apply to within one’s social group, not society in general. We have seen a man can be very rich and still be a punk with women, in various “Beta Of The Month” scenarios.

    This man, while of low overall social status, would probably be a beta within his social milieu, lower class rural white people. His behavior is indicative of someone insecure with his status and trying to assert it. Alpha white trash would glare but say nothing. Omega white trash would be timid.

    As an example of an extreme mismatch of overall social status and personal social/sexual status, I invite you to consider an omega multibillionaire, Paul Allen. I remember reading an article about him in Rolling Stone some years ago, and thinking, “This guy is the fourth richest man in the world, and he doesn’t have a girlfriend? I’m unemployed and *I* have a girlfriend!”

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  327. You never heard of the Huns (nor the Vandals) rebuilding the Coliseum. Or even a urinal.

    And you won’t hear of Sheniquas, DeLontes or Pedros rebuilding the malls, either.

    And what great legacy are you building, a tower of unfunny snarky haiku comments throughout the blogosphere? You’re as useless in the big picture as a Sheniqua, Firepower. And 100x more annoying. Officially the most try-hard commenter ever.

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  328. What’s need is IQ testing at age 15, and compulsory sterilization of everyone below 100. If someone has children before the age of 15, the children will be sterilized without testing.

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  329. This is a joke. Roissy is a joke too.

    Here is what Roissy and others of his wannabe alpha male intellectual groupies want a society to look like.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/42138.html#more-42138

    Big alpha males kicking the shit out of and tazing little girls. Or a prison justice system filled with men who could be doing a lot to further society and culture.

    What a joke.

    You could call me an omega because I treat women with respect and dignity even though we have rampant feminism. I open doors for women who have no respect for me since it is the right thing to do.

    It is called catch 22. Real males don’t give up on women just because they won’t let you open their legs.

    The so called “alpha” males have created beta israel, the stock market (that stole the wealth again), hate laws etc etc.

    There have been very few real alpha males in the south since the civil war, or since they were increased by SURVIVAL, or their numbers are a sharper loss due to yankee infiltration.

    Yes, the north is filled to the brim with HOMOs. Just look a barney frank, or in the south you have charlie crists.

    As a so called beta I can/could kill any alpha in his sleep if I wanted too. Sometimes I fantasize about killing so called “macho men” who are just scared little boys. No wonder women don’t take you seriously with your silly “game” neg bullshit.

    And the wannabe alphas make me sick. I see what some call alpha’s around me that the women go for. They are the types of guys who have businesses that rake in the cash so that these idiots can buy foreign cars that they don’t know how to drive or sit and collect dust in their carport, a waste of natural resources. They also pay the so called beta’s who work for them a pittance, which means all money flows to them and the work is shoddy, further destroying society from within.

    The greatest strength in a male is not his nuts and his ability to take advantage of a women and force her to have his children.

    The greatest strength in a male is his ability to fight for home and hearth. Not to leave the American women on her own in the post modern feminist wasteland. Most of you alpha wannabe’s seem to be ghey.

    I blame the so called alpha’s (and wannabees) for the decline of western civ. Them and the homosexual MGTOW.

    This is coming from an alpha in beta clothing. Women call me a wolf in sheep’s clothing but whatever. ha ha.

    Having a deep voice and the ability to kick some little kids ass doesn’t an alpha male make.

    PS Is roissey a kike?

    If he is, this blog makes all the more sense.

    Men need to evolve out of this alpha-beta-omega mindset and realize that we are all one on this planet and get over their inability to have sex with as many women as they can.

    The inability to form long lasting relationships with the opposite sex is homosexuality because children need a daddy to raise them, and also seems to be the very same textbook definition of an “alpha” from all the wannabe aspirants here. The “cave man” analogy is such a joke as also to be not taken seriously.

    I should fly up to DC and show roissey and his ilk that they are nothing but homos in wannabe alpha drag, but I might get sued for a hate crime!LOL!

    Roissey you and your alpha wannabe’s are HOMOS!

    I am not afraid of you.

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  330. PS

    I have noticed a lot of attacking of Islam on here as of late, and nothing is more alpha than islam countries. They are kicking all of the jews (most people in the world look at the american soldier as fighting the jews wars, since kikes like roissey here don’t fight wars except on the internetsLOL)

    Homo-kike-jewry/churchianity is in no way a sign of real men. In fact, I would say that the only thing keeping the NkikeWorld order is ISLAM!

    They don’t have usury and other kikish things for some strange reason, and they seem to be killing a lot of good people who could be MAKING THE WORLD a better place than acting like a cave man and bombing wedding parties but I digress.

    PPS A jew cannot be an alpha. Well, maybe in hollywood…LOL!

    Keep paying for sex roissey. That is all you and the rest of you homosexual wannabe “alpha’s” will ever get.

    I look at most so called alpha’s today and laugh.

    Women seemed to have evolved past cave man days but it seems that most men today are cavemen hiding behing their power standing there with a dumb look on their face, whilst holding a club, forcing the women to do what you want, thus turning them and their offspring into crap.

    I piss on the wannabe alpha’s on this place and in real life.

    Alpha=homo unable to raise and take care of his own kids.

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  331. The decline of civilizations have always been correlated with the removal of the father from the family picture. In other words, single motherhood. Lots of work has been done to prove this, both in the sciences and social sciences.

    Women and beta males can not raise strong men that are contributing members to society. Only intelligent alpha males can raise boys to become men. Remove their role from the family, as has been institutionalized in the United States, and you will see a generation of unmotivated men grow up-no matter how alpha.

    Men have always been the natural risk takers, organizers, and leaders of society. Without them, cultures stagnant and eventually become taken over by more competitive ones. But they are still human, and as a group are severely impacted by the absence of a strong male figure in their lives.

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  332. One comment about the “beta males as building blocks of civilization” meme: traditionally these aren’t “beta males” in today’s sense of nerds or wimps.

    In fact, an average “beta male” back in the day was not too different from many of the better alpha guys on this blog: responsible, confident, slightly chauvinistic, and charming in line with the customs of his social class. And instead of giving lip-service to leftie PC ideologies like many “alphas” today, these “betas” held sincere beliefs in God and in a concept of honor.

    You can watch Apollo 13 with Tom Hanks; one of the finest examples of “beta males” working together. You’ll notice that these guys are for the most part quite alpha by today’s standards. Or for a more stark example, see Saving Private Ryan, again, with Tom Hanks. His “beta school teacher” character is closer to the civilization-sustaining betas of those days, than to today’s emasculated betas.

    Sure, there may have been a Don Juan or two in other eras; but those guys were (and always will be) extremely rare due to the outlier status of their talents and temperament. And they were regarded as a plaything for bored ladies more than anything else.

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  333. Quote

    “Women and beta males can not raise strong men that are contributing members to society. Only intelligent alpha males can raise boys to become men.”

    No offense girly girl, but most ALPHA’s cannot raise men either. Real men fight for home and hearth, not foreign wars.

    And it seems that most women want a so called homo alpha to knock them up and have a beta raise them, since the beta won’t run away trying to infect, oops, implant their genes into yet another girly girl.

    Men are in control of the world yet they seem to be becoming homosexual men unable to raise their children.

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  334. Heh, wow… Just wow…

    Do I look as crazy to you all as Andrew looks to me?

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  335. Interesting incident.

    Now being a city dweller, I was amazed at the hostility of the inhabitants of DC the last time I was there.

    Nearly the same scenario happened to me and my friends. Although we are not fat slobs, genetic freaks, or Meth-heads, we did, in fact congregate on the escalator coming up from the Metro. We had no idea that such behavior was not tolerated.

    A woman, about 30ish, attractive, well dressed, and towing her cowed husband/boyfriend ran up from behind us and began swearing and shaking her fist at us for blocking her way.

    A simple “Excuse me” would have sufficed.

    We just shook our heads and said “City folk”.

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  336. Oops, that should “Not being a city dweller.”

    Apologies.

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  337. PA,

    I agree with you 100%. My culture (Portuguese) is probably, in terms of masculinity and family structure, what America was back in the 1950’s. What PUAs would consider to be “beta males” are men who are not afraid to stand up for themselves and who neg women on an everyday basis ON AUTOPILOT. Plus, these are men who are known to have extra marital affairs.

    My theory is that the reason they are like this is because they have grown up with an authoritative male figure to teach them how to stand up for themselves and interact with women. Talk to Portuguese immigrants and many will tell you about the respectful fear they had for their fathers.

    In contrast, 43% of American households are single parent ones (ie. most female-headed). This is a generation of boys being raised without a strong male figure to learn from. To me what it looks like is this group-in a sort of backlash- are grasping at extreme stereotypes of what they think masculine (ie. alpha) men SHOULD be (eg. thugs in ghetto, or aspire to bedding hundreds of women) rather than a more organic, feasible view of it.

    It is as if men in America are going through an existential crisis in the same way women are. This is both fascinating and disturbing to witness.

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  338. Andrew,

    What do you mean alpha’s can not raise children? The attitude of alpha’s being void of nurturing qualities is rather counter to human nature, no? You need to look up the statistics of what happens to boys and girls as a group when they are raised in a single parent household. The numbers do not lie, my dear.

    Men as a group are the ultimate nurturers. Throughout the history of humanity, they have nurtured ideas, theories, bonds with one another while hunting in groups and societies. To me, nurturing is not a feminine quality when it comes outside of caring for babies.

    Since when was the definition of masculinity so two dimensional that it had to be pigeon-holed into defending the home front or sleeping with thousands of women?

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  339. Experianced Father

    Firepower said:

    >And you won’t hear of Sheniquas, DeLontes or Pedros
    >rebuilding the malls, either.

    The Atlantic article showed that if you destroy places like Cabrine Green and try to replacate those early Section 8 housing results on a large scale, and you merely recreate the loser culture elsewhere, in the midst of the suburban middle class.

    The policy results of that include the hollowing out of the inner suburb and medium sized city’s public schools and a further white flight to the exurbs to escape.

    Current Federal Section 8 housing policy is to effectively move the criminal underclass into the middle of mixed working class neighborhoods in suburbs and smaller cities, destroying stable middle class family formation there, and make thousands of mini-Cabrine Greens.

    Thus requiring a bigger social welfare state outside the now less African-American Blue urban core areas.

    Now this loser culture is interrelating with these Federally Funded mini-Cabrine Greens plus trash hip-hop culture to create something approaching the British Chav underclass.

    Agreed. The media has devoutly refused criticizing our pernicious criminal class on PC racial party line directives. We’ve had the problem far longer than Chavs, but Chavs are readily attacked because they are white, and thus safe to target.

    The Atlantic article also revealed the author would have rather eaten her own guts than write those words; the death of the Sacred Racial Cow is an admission of failure the left hopes will continue to be ignored by a vapid Nintendo Culture pacified by PC axioms. The tone was astonishment that the crime dots lined up with the black dots and there was “nobody left to blame.”

    Federal and State government policy of spreading the infection handily serves to create more voters willing to Pelosify and Obamify society through an eternal cycle of re-electing liberal Democrat politicians doling out cash to the groups that elect them. There is no stopping them now.

    The cementing of a power base is indeed an ugly exercise during the birthing process so exposed via forums such as we have here.

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  340. on November 5, 2009 at 12:45 pm The Other White Meat

    Roissy picks up where Fred Reed left off. Pure unadulterated truth.

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  341. for the first time I actually admire your actions. didn’t think you had anything resembling honor left in you. you’re living in a tough climate out there, I’ll give you that (not all girls are that whorish where I’m from, and, in general, not all girls are whores – most are, but they have some standards, like all of us). you are a really smart individual: why don’t you do something with this besides getting laid ?

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  342. kurt9
    WWI was a sucker’s war, plain and simple, especially for the U.S. It was a European tribal conflict that accomplished nothing. Europe blew away 50% of its economic assets in this conflict that produced no winners at all. WWI is probably the most stupid conflict in history. It is incomprehensible that anyone would actually glorify this historical POS.

    I cannot possibly imagine what possessed the then politicos in Washington D.C. to embroil us into this POS conflict, but we did. If I was a young man at the time, I cannot possibly imagine why I would want to risk my life to fight in such a worthless European tribal conflict. That’s what I think about WWI and the stupid politicians that got us into it.

    You should read Ernst Juenger’s stuff – specifically In Storms of Steel. He said his life in the Army was an incomparable schooling of the heart and that an infantryman knew that whatever he did, his accomplishments were honest and hard earned. That guy was a stud. Wounded seven times and two time Pour le Merite awardee. He became a famous novelist and wrote over 100 books in his lifetime. He died in 1998 at age 102. He would easily refute every comment you make and he was there. We see only the anti-war Marxist side of the veteran’s stories today. Most postwar accounts were prowar and militaristic. A lot of men yearned for the old cameraderie and harsh but simple rules of combat life and of the trenches. Fascism owed much to the large numbers of men who could no longer integrate happily into society and who became military desperados. It never ends.

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  343. My theory is that the reason they are like this is because they have grown up with an authoritative male figure to teach them how to stand up for themselves and interact with women. Talk to Portuguese immigrants and many will tell you about the respectful fear they had for their fathers.

    Worked for me. I was scared of my father at age 17 and it kept me from doing a lot of stupid shit. We’ve lost that today with nanny state parenting.

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  344. on November 5, 2009 at 1:57 pm Experianced Father

    >Agreed. The media has devoutly refused criticizing our
    >pernicious criminal class on PC racial party line directives.
    >We’ve had the problem far longer than Chavs, but Chavs are
    >readily attacked because they are white, and thus safe to
    >target.

    No, we do not.

    I repeat, this is a matter of _CULTURE_ not *Race*.

    The PC mouthings on race are simply the “Bad think” tool used to suppress both dissent and public debate over this political power grab being made via spreading that loser culture.

    The American Political Left views destroying stable family formation in the middle class a their number one policy priority to increase their power.

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  345. on November 5, 2009 at 2:05 pm Experianced Father

    >We’ve had the problem far longer than Chavs, but Chavs are
    >readily attacked because they are white, and thus safe to
    >target.

    No.

    This is a much older cultural divide.

    Recognizable proto-Chav culture was around around in the pre-American revolutionary days on the American colonial frontier and particularly in the scots-irish & Scots borders.

    A lot of white trash, hill billy and honky tonk culture is rooted in that scots-irish & Scots border migration.

    A lot of today’s American left are decendants of the puritans and those who adhered to their culture.

    These folks were on opposite sides of the English Revolution, American Revolution and the American Civil War.

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  346. and the scots-irish lost all three?

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  347. vI repeat, this is a matter of _CULTURE_ not *Race*.

    on average, the races differ in the share of genetic losers/winners each one have. so the same culture will hit each race differently

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  348. He would easily refute every comment you make and he was there. We see only the anti-war Marxist side of the veteran’s stories today. Most postwar accounts were prowar and militaristic. A lot of men yearned for the old cameraderie and harsh but simple rules of combat life and of the trenches.

    I would never sacrifice my life and love of it to be an instrument of an external agenda, particularly that of a bureaucracy (all large scale social institutions are bureaucracies). I will also tell you that I am the furthest thing from Marxism that you can possibly imagine.

    If you want feedback from a war veteran, I recommend Fred Reed’s website:

    http://www.fredoneverything.net

    Fred Reed is certainly no Marxist either.

    You convince me that there is a threat that requires that I give up my self-interested life in order to help eliminate and I will work to develop the robotics and bio-weapons to exterminate that enemy. If you want me to kill people, I will devise the most effective methods of killing people that you can ever possibly imagine. But do not ever, ever ask or expect me to be a part of an external agenda. I consider such requests to be offensive.

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  349. @ Experianced Father

    Sure, historically, the brits ballsily handled their Chav problems with penal colonies, Australia, shipping them to colonial America, drafting into the navy, starving potato-eating micks into famine etc. They at least took a shot at flushing their scum down the privvy through many effective population reduction programs over centuries.

    No good deed goes unpunished. I’m finding common ground with you while you’re making esoteric points more suited for The Spearhead and its “Thomas Sowell’s Observations on Jungian Dichotomies of Socio-Philosophical Gender Bias. Hello, Pericles!” college course stuff that is as practical as postulating the accurate number of angels dancing on That Pin. Fuck the goddamned Chavs. If they’re your target and you have a hardon for ’em – have at ’em. I’ve dealt with all colors of dirtbags and the more visible differences you have, the more they hate you. If you want to focus on Burberry hat-wearing twats (and ignore at your peril the Pakis) so you can peaceably co-exist in post-Sharia Englandistan. Fine.

    Railing about how the Dead Rabbit Gang desecrated Houston St. and the Bowery in 1840 – while ignoring the Welfare Queen with her 13 crackbabies living there now strikes me as foolish academic armchair conceit and pisses me off.

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  350. gig

    and the scots-irish lost all three?

    well, while i dangle dolorously in ‘awaiting moderation land’

    I’m not sure if dad’s
    1. making a valid (if highly confusing) point
    2. looking for a fight
    3. just read another history book

    or,
    all three

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  351. You should read Ernst Juenger’s stuff – specifically In Storms of Steel. He said his life in the Army was an incomparable schooling of the heart and that an infantryman knew that whatever he did, his accomplishments were honest and hard earned. That guy was a stud. Wounded seven times and two time Pour le Merite awardee. He became a famous novelist and wrote over 100 books in his lifetime. He died in 1998 at age 102. He would easily refute every comment you make and he was there.

    I stand by my point. WWI was the most stupid, utterly worthless conflict in human history.

    Ask yourself this: What did it accomplish? Who actually won it? Can you honestly say that any of the European countries were better off in terms of economics and material standard of living as a result of this conflict than if they had never fought it? The fact is that WWI produced NO winners at all. It also resulted in the destruction of at least 50% of all European economic assets. Worse, there were people at the time who warned that all of this would happen and no one listened to them. There is no way that you can convince me that this conflict was a rational choice.

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  352. on November 5, 2009 at 3:52 pm Seeking Alpha

    Who actually won it?

    America.

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  353. just read another history book

    this is a very good point. people don´t realize how much what passes by “intellectual opinion” is merely some repetition of the last book read by the critical thinking SWPL entity in front of you.

    yet I concede that experienced father´s opinions seem more consistent

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  354. all this history discussion
    surely enlightens our society
    that views WW II
    as ancient history
    and the 60’s as
    The Renaissance

    Down ‘awaiting moderation’

    Go Whigs

    mout

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  355. Finally you get how the rest of the world views Americans!

    Anyway, the thing is, the low-class family of four you write about here would ironically see the Asian woman as “third world cesspool”.

    And I think you are off on the severe polarization of America. It may be there in DC where you live, but out here, what I’m seeing is that the lines between lower and upper class are so blurred – thanks to “pop culture” influence.

    Basically everyone is turning low class in their behaviour.

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  356. This is one of the best rants I’ve read in awhile, a veritable treasure trove of wordsmithing.

    I must study it.

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  357. Did America really win WWI? What was the benefit of fighting and “winning” this war to the average American living in, say, Denver Colorado? What was the benefit of WWI to the American taxpayer or to the businessman who was not well-placed to get the government military contracts? I maintain that the “benefits” of war are largely a fraud for most people, especially that of WWI.

    Also, the outcome of WWI produced both Nazism and Soviet Communism and led directly to WWII. I hardly call that a benefit.

    “Crisis” are artificially manufactured by the power structures in order to get the rank and file to suck up and do what our political “betters” think we should do. The last thing these parasites want is for people to be able to find happiness and fulfillment in living their own lives completely free from having to serve a larger externally directed cause. This, of course, leads to the death of parasites. All large scale social institutions are parasitical in nature.

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  358. on November 5, 2009 at 7:17 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ Kurt

    Without World War 1, America’s ascension to global hegemon would have happened much slower, if at all, had the European community not committed suicide in that war.

    Whether American hegemony is a good thing or a bad thing for the average American is a deeper discussion.

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  359. @ Seeking Alpha

    This is true.

    However, is this a goal that you would be willing to risk your physical well-being or the well-being of your kids to accomplish? The answer is obviously no for me. I believe in going to war only in the case of a real existential threat to my life and freedom. I do not believe that the interventionist foreign policy that we have practiced since the Spanish-American war is valid. I consider it not only to be immoral, but utterly unworthy of the sacrifice of my life and physical well-being. I consider my life and well-being to be vastly superior value to me than any policy that a group of politicians may come up with.

    I would sacrifice my life to defend freedom itself, but I would never sacrifice my life to defend any group of people (who do not share my worldview) or any human social institution.

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  360. Miss Girly Girl

    Quote

    “What do you mean alpha’s can not raise children? The attitude of alpha’s being void of nurturing qualities is rather counter to human nature, no? You need to look up the statistics of what happens to boys and girls as a group when they are raised in a single parent household. The numbers do not lie, my dear.”

    I grew up around single parent house holds. My parents are still together.

    Please dont remind me. I know all about single parent households.

    Men as a group are the ultimate nurturers. Throughout the history of humanity, they have nurtured ideas, theories, bonds with one another while hunting in groups and societies. To me, nurturing is not a feminine quality when it comes outside of caring for babies.

    Women are supposed to nurture by their nature. Men are supposed to guide. Big difference when it comes to raising kids.


    Since when was the definition of masculinity so two dimensional that it had to be pigeon-holed into defending the home front or sleeping with thousands of women?”

    The whole point of masculinity is to protect the home and keep others from destroying the family. Period. That is what a society is based upon. Family.

    Most so called “men” I see nowadays who are not married think they are players. They aren’t. They are idiots. They want to screw everything that isn’t nailed to the floor.

    You come from a latin culture. Please don’t deny this exists.

    I have hung out with South American ladies and most hispanic men would hit on a billy goat if it had a wig on it.

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  361. Who actually won it?

    Germany´s defeat in WW1 was the mother-tragedy of all tragedies in the XXth century.

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  362. on November 6, 2009 at 11:26 am Conservative Cock

    This post is a classic.

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  363. “…with embarrasingly unsophisticated and outmoded fare like Rushton’s junk science”

    Haekel: Rushton has documented in peer-reviewed journals that: (a) MRI-based brain size correlates positively with general mental ability (g); and (b) the magnitude of black-white (B-W) IQ differences correlates positively with a test’s g loading.

    Finding (a) calls into question Stephen J. Gould’s assertion (and a general presumption in anthropology) that correlations between brain size and intelligence do not exist.

    Finding (b) is consistent with the theory that B-W differences in IQ are largely differences in g, which has a biological substrate.

    In what sense is Rushton’s work “embarrassingly unsophisticated or outmoded”, or worse — “junk science”?

    ***
    See, e.g., http://www.charlesdarwinresearch.org/JPRvitae.htm

    Rushton, J. P., & Jensen, A. R. (2006). The totality of available evidence shows race-IQ gap still remains. Psychological Science, 17, 921-922.

    Rushton, J. P., & Ankney, C. D. (2009). Whole-brain size and general mental ability: A review. International Journal of Neuroscience, 119, 691-731.

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  364. Anonymous

    “Who actually won it?”

    “”””Germany´s defeat in WW1 was the mother-tragedy of all tragedies in the XXth century.”””

    Please explain.

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  365. I’m sorry, but the majority of the “de facto invaders” work harder in one day than you have in your entire life, and are trying to do right by their families. I realize now you’re probably just being facetious, but your habit of suggesting actions while ignoring all logical implications of what it would mean for those actions to become actual is very wrongheaded and, alas, typical of ‘conservatives.’

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  366. on November 6, 2009 at 6:02 pm Willard Libby

    Super Omega Bill on Youtube

    TFL stands for true forced loneliness.

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  367. It’s not really luck in the dna. I mean – you don’t become rich because some “rich gene in DNA”. Mostly it’s luck and skill – combination of circumstances + hard work. That’s if we talk about classically successful men (rich, powerful, etc…)

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  368. The claim that higher education may in fact lower female attractiveness sounds illogical. Ceteris paribus, I would much rather spend my time with someone who is able to hold an intelligent conversation (and also knows something about the content being discussed) than with the vapid counterpart.

    Now, you may claim that higher education would adversely impact other things you would desire in a mate but that is a notion in dire need of support (I especially call bull on the whole feminism tangent but that may be related to the fact that my main exposure to well educated women is from econ and science part, not soft topics).

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  369. Ruby —

    Please, please, PLEASE just make your own blog already!

    It pains me to have to hunt around the Roissysphere to read your incredibly lucid commentary.

    SRSLY.

    I have to hunt around to find them, and I’m there when he writes them.

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  370. on November 9, 2009 at 2:51 pm Experianced Father

    >I’m not sure if dad’s
    >1. making a valid (if highly confusing) point
    >2. looking for a fight
    >3. just read another history book
    >
    >or,
    >all three

    The point is people should always be treated as _individuals_.

    You judge them one at a time.

    Individuals within a culture or group vary far more than between cultrual or genetic norms.

    _Loser cultures_ are a different matter and should be seen as such.

    Muslim Palestinian culture in Gaza and the West Bank, for example, should not be allowed to reproduce or spread.

    It takes a culture to make a village that raises child suicide bombers.

    Short of full scale ethnic cleansing that obliterates their culture and lets the survivors assimilate into other cultures.

    Nothing can be done with the Palestinians.

    American loser cultures are no where near as bad as all that, but they damned well should be segregated by housing policy from the middle class. (Not given a build a new criminal empire free card by the Feds.)

    Those who want to work/earn their way out of America’s loser cultures via sweat equity should have a viable path to follow into main stream culture.

    In the case of the Revolution & Civil War era Scots-Irish and Scots borders in American culture, they are in the main assimilated and productive Americans with a higher tendency for both violence and military service.

    Point in fact, they assimilated the Irish and Italians waves of imigration into main stream “white” culture.

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  371. Nobody seems to read my comments on here, but that suits me just fine.

    I seriously doubt that any of you people clamoring for a eugenic future have taken the time to think about what that’d actually be like. You’re so secure that you’ve got a spot among the special ones, that it’d be absolutely tits, and you could feel oh so superior for the rest of your lives.

    You don’t even realize that that pleasure of superiority comes directly from having people to scorn.

    What happens when there are no more niggers and winos? Who will you look down on?

    When the latest model of humanity comes out, who’s gonna replace them?

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  372. Chunk

    What happens when there are no more niggers and winos? Who will you look down on?

    self-loathing white blogger dudes

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  373. This is a pretty fucking stupid post. Go visit an actual Red State and see what percentage of them are more like the fatsos than the Asian. Especially the leadership in their respective state legislatures. I give you the “base” of the Republican party.

    And going after Mexicans? Are you serious? In Red States they are the hardest working class of people. My cousin in South Carolina employs lots of them and generally has much higher regard for them than similarly educated native white brethren.

    Plus I love fucking those hot latinas.

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  374. on November 14, 2009 at 11:57 am Experianced Father

    Something for “Firepower” to chew on regards the current day political reality of the Scots-Irish:

    http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/10/scots-irish.php

    “The states that are dominated by the Scots-Irish and Scots-Irish culture have voting patterns atypical to the rest of the U.S. Voters there, once solidly New Deal Democrats, have been voting increasingly for Republicans at the national level since the 1960s, as the Democratic Party has grown increasingly socially liberal and dovish. It is worth noting that many Scots-Irish broke for George Wallace’s militarism, tough on crime message and racism before they moved on to vote for Nixon and Reagan, although Wallace’s supporters tended to be in the Deep South and not in the parts of Central Appalachia that had supported the Union during the Civil War. Wallace did poorly in West Virginia, for instance.

    Republicans have had success in actively courting these voters. As Sen. Webb writes, “The GOP strategy is heavily directed toward keeping peace with this culture, which every four years is seduced by the siren song of guns, God, flag, opposition to abortion and success in war.”

    Still, in many of these areas Democrats have done well, at least on the local level. Arkansas, which voted for McCain over Obama by a 59%-39% margin, still has two Democratic senators and more Democratic than Republican House members, as does West Virginia, where McCain beat Obama 56%-43%. Emory Professor Merle Black: “They [southern Democrats] are moderate to conservative Democrats, they’re not liberal Democrats, and voters really see a huge difference between national elections and state and local elections, especially in these places like Arkansas, parts of Tennessee, Virginia, most of western North Carolina… when the national Democrats come in and run very liberal programs, most of these local Democrats put some distance between themselves and the national candidates.”

    These Democrats are often Blue Dogs (and in the recent past were Boll Weevils and Yellow Dogs), and often look and sound like Rep. Heath Shuler (D-NC): they are pro-gun, pro-life, anti-free trade, and loudly critical of both the national Democratic and Republican Parties. Shuler, for instance, vehemently opposed Obama’s stimulus package, criticizing Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s handling of the bill. Still, he and other Democrats in Scots-Irish territory are high on Republican target lists heading into 2010.

    The split between Obama and Clinton in the primaries closely mirrors the schism between Scots-Irish “Bubba voters” and what can be called “Mondale Democrats.” While Obama took the states with high minority populations or with white voters from mostly WASP, Scandinavian or Germanic heritage, such as in Wisconsin, Iowa and Minnesota, Clinton won every state with a significant Scots-Irish population and low levels of African American voters. Even in Scots-Irish states like North Carolina and Virginia where Obama easily won, the Appalachian counties broke decisively for Clinton.

    Dave “Mudcat” Saunders, a self-described “Scots-Irish hillbilly,” is a former senior adviser to Sen. Webb, Sen. (then Gov.) Mark Warner, D-Va., and former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.’s second presidential campaign. As Saunders points out, “If you had told me in 2005 that by that time the 2008 nominating battles had come along that Hillary Clinton would redefine herself as pro-gun and anti-trade, I would’ve told them that they were crazy. But she did it – she redefined herself. At the same time, they redefined Barack Obama as a globalist, ‘secret meeting with the Canadians,’ ‘gonna take your gun right now’… it was cultural issues” that gave Clinton the edge with the Scots-Irish.

    In the general election, while McCain was losing voters who had gone for George W. Bush in droves across the nation, the only region where he outperformed Bush was in the Deep South and Appalachia. McCain easily increased Bush’s margins of victories in areas from East Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas up to West Virginia. The only other areas where McCain routinely did better than Bush were in his and Palin’s home states, Arizona and Alaska, and in Catholic southern Louisiana.

    Democrats saw their share of the white vote fall from 19% to 10% in Alabama, and remain unchanged in Georgia despite Obama’s strong campaign operation there and Kerry ignoring the state in 2004. Obama also ran roughly even with or slightly trailed Kerry’s numbers in Appalachian North Carolina and Virginia, despite campaigning heavily there as well.

    John Murtha, D-Penn., took a lot of heat for his assertion before the last election that Obama would perform poorly in Murtha’s 12th district because “there’s no question Western Pennsylvania is a racist area.” Yet Murtha may have been correct – the 12th, in the southwest corner of Pennsylvania, went narrowly for McCain after both John Kerry and Al Gore had won it.

    As Saunders put it, “There ain’t fifty cents’ difference in a Scots-Irish redneck up there and one down here. They want their guns, it’s just who we are. And everybody thinks of going after the Scots-Irish vote in a geographic sense, ‘go into Southern Appalachia and the South. Listen, you can get a lot of ‘Yankee’ votes with that too, and Midwestern votes, southwestern votes.””

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  375. D

    And going after Mexicans? Are you serious? In Red States they are the hardest working class of people. My cousin in South Carolina employs lots of them and generally has much higher regard for them than similarly educated native white brethren.

    Then your cousin’s part of the problem, breaking the law for his own selfish benefit, and encouraging illegal immigration.

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