A Test Of Your Negs

So you think you can game? Some of you can. Let’s see how you do with this group.

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Scene: You have just walked up to this group of four girls and one seriously d-bag looking wanker. They asked you to take their picture, which you did but only after teasing them by pretending to pocket their camera and running away with it. They posed as in the photo above and you gave them back the camera.

What do you do?

This time the test is a little different. I want you to devise the most appropriate ego-humbling neg for whichever target you choose, and pre- and post-neg transitions if necessary. You may have to defuse the presence of the d-bag first. The idea here is to use the situational props available to you to deliver the best neg possible. Think on your feet!

For example:

[Looking at the guy] “Hey man, looks like you got your hands full.”

Some light banter ensues with everyone.

[Turning to the CityOfGod girl on the far right] “That’s a cool shirt.” [Wait for reaction] “You’re brave for not color coordinating with your friends.”

Winners will be announced tomorrow.





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  1. on July 30, 2009 at 12:01 pm Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman

    Roissy, your standards are slipping. The second girl from the left has got a decent rack and is OK looking, but other than that they’re really not all that hot. Why even bother?

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  2. I’d tell the one on the left “Smile! Show some teeth!” After she did it, I’d make a face and be like “Scratch that. Go back to how you were before.”

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  3. on July 30, 2009 at 12:10 pm unfrozencaveman

    I got nothin’. My imagination is broken.

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  4. I’d take the camera they hand me and start giving them instructions. I wouldn’t go hard on the guy. He looks harmless enough, I don’t feel AMOG threat from him. In fact, my instinct tells me to cultivate him because I feel more Alpha than him. This makes me look comparatively better in front of the girls and spikes my bloodstream Mojo production.

    Once the girls line up like they are in the photo, I’d say to the blondie, who is my target “you, tank top, [pointing at her from the hip] step back a little, you’re crowding out your girlfriends.”

    I’m hopefully hitting her “I’m fat” buttons.

    By the way, she’s not my target based on looks. Her boobies are larger than I like, and the girls at the ends are cuter. But she looks like she’s looking for some smacking around, and that’s what I’m in the mood to give when I look at her.

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  5. The guy in the back looks like a waiter who accidently walked into the shot rather than being with the group.

    They’re all rather dressed down and show hints of forehead sweat/tousled hair making me think that this is early afternoon/just in from the beach/some day activity or its night time but just hot as balls in there. I’d say the first is preferable to the latter, so let’s assume that’s the case.

    Girl on the left, a dressed up comparatively. Really lead in with something stupid like “I guess the rest of them didn’t get the sweater memo” or somehow highlight that she’s dolled up relative to Tits McGee & Co, it’s innocuous enough but will get her self-consciousness flowing.

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  6. Taking pictures for girls is always an easy way to jump into conversation. This is one way I might handle this situation (Let’s assume the girl to the right is the target):

    girls: Hey, can you take a picture of us?
    me: yea sure…(take the camera) Okay, on the count of 5!

    Count off until 5, take a picture….but completely cut out the girl in the yellow. Hand the camera back as you normally would, and they will check the picture as always.

    If I were to “defuse this d-bag” it would just be out of the kindness of my heart. I don’t think it would be necessary, but I’d probably just say something for the sake of conversation. “so how did you end up getting dragged out with all of these girls?” then he’d tell me they either all went to school together, or that he is meeting the girl in the red for the first time off of a craigslist ad, but she doesn’t seem that interested…so I could gain a little knowledge about the group.

    girl in yellow: “Hey, you cut me out of the picture!”
    me: “what? yea I know…I didn’t think you wanted to be in it…” (strait faced)
    girl in yellow: ??? (she is confused)
    me: “I just assumed that since you didn’t do you hair or anything that you didn’t want to be in the picture ;)” (now you can start smiling at her)

    me: “If a girl can pull it off…I usually prefer a girl with messy hair anyways”

    You can keep her wondering if you have the opinion that she can pull it off or not…she will probably ask…just smile, don’t answer and have her buy you a drink.

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  7. ps now that tokyojesusfist is gone, watch no one pick the Asian as a target.

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  8. Why so? IMO from most attractive to least: the blonde, the Asian, tie between the other two.

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  9. What!, these girls are pretty, especially the girl on the left. I’d get up close to her and look her over, doing my best not to make it lecherous, and murmer “so wrinkled…” in my playful voice.

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  10. Why even bother…but definitely the one worthy of any convo is 2nd from left–not Ms. Underwear-on-the-Outside. If its her –2nd from left’s– camera, then you’re in like flynn.

    Get any of them to get d-bag to buy everyone drinks… he’s probably already done that anyway–since he’s there to serve.

    So the neg on him is: “Don’t you bartend at X… Are you sure…You know how to mix strong cocktails… ?

    He’ll either deny or confirm… either way he’s gonna be off on a drink run. Promise him “I’ll get round two when you get this for the ladies…” and, of course, dont deliver it.

    Then work 2nd from the right.

    The neg on her…

    “So are you tee-total?… You don’t want a drink — or do you?”

    “But maybe you shouldnt drink… Do you think wifebeaters should drink…?”

    And if you really want that ‘thing’ on the right… tell her to take her granny shawl off… then change it up “Put it back on… since kiddie-porn is so last year…” Before the second wardrobe-failure change she’s slut-posing for you candy–er, Camera-man and trying to be the ho that wears underwear- on-the-outside that she is.

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  11. “Roissy, your standards are slipping. The second girl from the left has got a decent rack and is OK looking, but other than that they’re really not all that hot. Why even bother?”

    My sentiments exactly.Bring back Scarlett!!

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  12. Eric Stratton,

    Some of the best fucks of my life have been with average-looking gals, who aren’t as cute as any in that picture. Women do not have to be north of 8’s to have good pussy and be enthusiastic, passionate lays.

    The blonde with the nice tits, and the baby face in yellow with the dimples are the best-looking of this bunch, but every one of those gals would have some very sweet pussy. Factor in the fact that these gals are NOT heavily made up with make-up, false eyelashes, fake hair color, and fake tits.

    For an example Eric, look at this mugshot of porn star/senatorial candidate Stormy Daniels,
    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/porn-star-mulling-103559.html
    Daniels is just 30, and already looks rough.
    Now look at other pictures of Daniels heavily made-up,

    If you seen Daniels with her war-paint, faux eyelashes, fake boobs, and heavily colored hair, and slut-wear on with the other four girls………………….you’d think she was the honey-bunny of the bunch, but she is really the hag.

    I think a man could have a lot of fun in the sack with anyone of those girls, and they’d probably have a lot less attitude than the hottest chicks at the club. These little gals would definitely be worth “the bother”.

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  13. Screw that, I want to try some AMOG material, so I would tell the girl on the left that she matches reds with her D-bag boy friend and observe that it must be great to be so comfortable to dress alike, they look like a cute couple. If she protests, then do the “how is the pick up” line to the guy in front of the girls.

    Otherwise, I’d tell blondie that it’s cool that that she doesn’t wear sunscreen, so many girls are concerned about getting wrinkles from sunburns.

    transition to talking to asian blimp and scooter on the right, eventually turn attention back to blondie, say sorry for ignoring her, tell her I have cologne on my balls and if she’s lucky she can taste. No, wait, that’s what I’m thinking…

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  14. I like PA’s, regardless of what button it presses.

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  15. on July 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm Basil Ransom

    I like your sweater vest – I have one just like it, a hanukah present from my grandma.
    [blabla]
    Granny wear with a lacy top, that’s hot.

    or to blonde: I like that you’re confident enough to come here wearing something simple. Not many girls would come out wearing just a plain wifebeater [sorta depends on the venue].

    or: if you guys jump in the pool, maybe I’ll follow suit.

    you could motion to the guy and use him as an audience for these negs, get his approval eg “dude, what do you say…[start delivering line]”

    my wording could be better, i’m a little hazy right now.

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  16. I’d mention to the girl on the left that it was nice of her grandmother to loan her the shawl, since she forgot her blouse.

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  17. Taking pictures is always an easy way to start conversation. If they approached me, this is one way I would handle this situation, and we will assume that my target is the girl to the far right:

    girls: Hey can you take a picture for us?
    me: yea I guess so…okay, on the count of 5…1..2…”

    When you take the picture, completely cut the girl in the yellow out of the photo. Hand the camera back as you normally would…they will look at the picture like they always do.

    If I did “defuse this d-bag” it would be out of the kindness of my own heart. I don’t think it would be necessary. I’d probably ask him “how did you end up getting dragged out with these hooligans?” And he could explain how he went to school with them, or how he is meeting the girl in the red for the first time off of a criagslist ad. I could probably gather some quick information about the group.

    Once they look at the picture, they will notice I cut that girl out of the picture:

    Yellow: “Hey! You cut me out of the picture!!”
    me: “What…oh yea, I know…” (strait faced)
    Yellow: “Why did you do that?”
    me: “I just thought that since you didn’t do your hair or anything….” (now you can start smiling, give her a nudge or something)
    Yellow: “Hey!!!”
    me: “Personally, I prefer a girl who can pull of the messy hair look….some girls can do it.”

    You can keep her guessing whether or not you think she can pull it off…you can take it down many different avenues from here.

    “take a picture of me and the messy haired girl!” etc…

    *when ever I take pictures of girls, I cut off all of their heads or take pictures of their foreheads*

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  18. on July 30, 2009 at 1:00 pm Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman

    Z – not disagreeing with you. Some of the best fucks I’ve had were with “average looking” women.

    And to carry it a step further, I have found that Hispanic women are generally a better screw than most. My problem was that I couldn’t let it go at that, I had to go and marry one of them. What a mistake that was.

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  19. Once they handed me the camera, I would say thanks, flip it over, pour some blow on the screen and snort it.

    Then say to the guy:

    “Hey waiter guy, grab me a double vodka soda! And double time it! I am pretty wired right now!”

    Then turn back to the girls, pile of blow on the camera, and say:

    “Oh. Would you like some too?”

    Later, I would roll back to their standard double room at The Radission (all four girls sharing two beds no doubt) and whistle up some champagne and vodka from room service.

    I would deny the Asian girl from ordering the “grande Nachos”.

    Then I would swoop them all.

    – MPM

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  20. none are hot , all are about 4’s tops

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  21. Zac

    “none are hot , all are about 4’s tops”

    Sure.

    But 4 X 4 = 16.

    Swooping all four at once would be a good use of your time.

    – MPM

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  22. G, obviously you picked the ultimately correct, globally applicable method, but as this was a neg invitational tournament, do international playboys even use negs? Or all they all implied…and in which suit should I be rolling? I think denying the nachos to muffin-top would count as a neg, but it’s post pickup.

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  23. Target is one on the left.

    Take one picture, accuse the girl in yellow of blinking and ruining it. She looks good to get the banter going.

    Take another, then go after the one on the left “It looks great, especially that attitude of yours [touch the target’s arm]. Like if y’all were a girl band, you’d be the moody one with the jerky boyfriend.”

    If you need to AMOG (although my guess is BMOG) then try to take a photo of him alone, preferrably doing something weird like striking a pose or standing next to a stranger who’s even taller. While he’s doing so, tease him with the girls.

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  24. if he was an alpha he’d be in the front row, the focus of the pic. He’s an also ran. Hence, I think he works there.

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  25. Sure.

    But 4 X 4 = 16.

    Swooping all four at once would be a good use of your time.

    – MPM

    funny, but seriosuly I wouldnt waste an ounce of my one life with those ladies

    I prefer to aim higher

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  26. I’d tell the girl with the purse – Young lady your “man purse” is hogging the shot, pull it down. Of course I would be called out about the comment and made to elaborate. I’d relay some humorous stories about the European guy in my office who’s “man purse” looks just like hers and take it from there.

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  27. Take picture. Look at it. Shake head subtlely. Address big cans. “Let’s try this again, try to make your smile more natural.” Take another picture. Examine it, shrug shoulders and hand back camera, turn away. Open big cans 20 minutes later with whatever, content won’t matter.

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  28. Accuse them of being a “living theater” piece by pointing out the drapery (the shawl) and the hanging necklace, stage right and left. Possibly gives you an “in” for kino. Of course, I often can’t calibrate negs, so I come off as too much the jerk much of the time, with age negs for younger women in particular. I am coming to the conclusion that I don’t want to learn game, put forth the effort, etc. I have TONS of experience approaching women and getting NOWHERE. I just want to be an effective, unapprehended, unknown rapist.

    Perhaps the burnout of knowing how game is supposed to work and constantly approaching and still getting only 1 number in 50 approaches and 1 full close for every 250 approaches is getting to me a bit.

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  29. Taking photos is a great opportunity. The lurch in the back isn’t going to do shit. No need to diffuse him.

    If they asked me to take a picture I would immediately begin to rearrange them. I would first look into the viewfinder or LCD and pause looking like I’m contemplating what I’m about to do saying,

    Me: “Wait a second, this arrangement is all wrong. You [pointing to blonde] you are going to have to move over to the end and you [pointing to the asian] you’re going to have to move to the other end.”

    Its best to go over and phsycially move the girls, arrange them in what ever way.

    If they give me grief or question me I’ll respond, “There’s too much white in the middle, you two look like you’re blending into one person. Alright, look lively and you back there [pointing to lurch] you ready? Great.” Take photo and start convo.

    “My dad’s a professional photographer, he taught me a few tricks.”

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  30. askjoe

    “do international playboys even use negs? Or all they all implied…”

    The neg is very subtle. Its when you snort the coke first and ignore the girls.

    Also, by dissing their buddy, it is a neg by association.

    “and in which suit should I be rolling?”

    Go custom.

    – MPM

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  31. The sequential problem here is, why would you neg before you have done a witty opening? One should open and generate preliminary attraction before negging.

    However, assuming the second from the left is the target, the neg would be :

    You – turn a bit so that you are standing 3/4 facing. That way you don’t look wider than your friends.

    OR…

    You – you look like the type who takes pictures of your friends, and then photoshops them to be shorter and fatter, so that you look taller and thinner in comparison, *before* posting them on facebook.

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  32. To the guy: I didn’t quite get you in the shot. But they’ve tagged you a million times on Facebook already, right?
    Girls laugh.
    Guy: They do document their social life.
    Light banter with all.
    Turning to blonde in white shirt: Let me tell you, I think you’ve got a really great natural beauty look and don’t need rouge at all.

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  33. Your readers are lazy today.

    To the guy: “Hey man you can’t let these aggressive girls squeeze you out of the photo like that.”

    To the girls: “Couldn’t you guys make a little more space for your guy friend here? He looks all sad and lonely and shit. Like someone just told him his little kitten died.”

    Guy is done. Will be even better if he says something like “But uhhh I don’t have a kitten.”

    I would go for the girl on the far right. She doesn’t seem to need a neg but if it was necessary: “Very cool necklace where did you get it from? I saw some many like it being sold in this market for 3,000 pesos. That comes out to a dollar fifty in american money. Cool though, anyway.”

    If she likes my vibe she’ll ask “which market” and then it’s clear sailing until I get cockblocked by the asian.

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  34. Oops. *I saw money like it

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  35. Fuck. *I saw many like it

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  36. roissy queried:
    …They posed as in the photo above and you gave them back the camera.

    What do you do?

    “City of God Girl” is more a B-grade, poor man’s Sophie Marceau without the perfect nipples.

    Pass.

    I feel like…a blond today.

    However, don’t tell aoefe she primed me for corn-fed blonds with plush, titty-fuckable racks.

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  37. Obvious one:

    To both the blond and the Asian chick:

    “It’s cool how you both coordinated your tops. Most girls freak out if their dressed the same.”

    Whichever one responds first is yours.

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  38. Alternatively, point at the girls on the end:

    “Did you guys not get the memo on dress like each other tonight?”

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  39. To the guy: They kinda blocked you out but they’ve probably tagged you in a bunch of other photos on Facebook so you’re ok, right?
    Girls: Awww
    To the Blonde: You’re a natural beauty, you know. You don’t need rouge at all. Who told you to put it on tonight?

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  40. To the girl on the far left:

    “Your teeth look fine. How come you didn’t show them in the photograph?”

    To the girl on the far right:

    “Its nice to see a girl who isn’t afraid to let her hair just go natural every once ina while.”

    To the Asian:

    “So what’s it like being the token slanty-eyed chick?” (lol—ok, really: “Its really brave of you to be the only Asian chick amongst all these pretty white girls.”

    to the blond:
    “Most girls are concerned about their hair being too short to be attractive, but your confidence shows that that thought never crosses your mind.”

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  41. “I think I’ve you guys somewhere before…oh yeah! it was my little niece’s history book, it was a section about diversity.”

    [I assume this would get a laugh]

    “You’ve got your aryan, your asian…some kind of wild card hybrid [yellow shirt girl], your token white guy…gay though, I assume?….he’s not! Dude, they’ve been stringing you along this whole time like a sex and the city fag hags! Do not buy these girls anymore drinks..”

    All done playfully and with touching, of course.

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  42. Asian girl:

    “That’s a nice knockoff I saw them selling those down in Chinatown, and I was going to pick one up for my sister, but they seemed out of season. How much did it go for?”

    (Now she’s confused—should she defend it not being a knockoff or not being out-of-season).

    “It’s not a knockoff! I swear.”

    “When you bought it in the 80s?”

    or

    “It’s not out of season, it’s brand new!”

    “Yep, freshly off the back of some guys truck on Canal street.”

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  43. To the blond (similar to Asian).

    “Nice earrings. They really highlight your ears, but not making them too large.”

    or

    “Nice earrings. I saw them on sale on a street vendor for $5. Did you bargain them down?”

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  44. To far left:

    “You know, many girls think lace and red are a little slutty, but your shy look in the picture says you don’t subscribe to that way of thinking.”

    or

    “I like the naughty Swiss girl look.”

    to the one on the far right:

    “Are you a nun? Why are you wearing a rosary?”

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  45. i’d go after the asian chick:

    “oh, sorry, let’s take another, your eyes were closed”

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  46. Chuck, for the racist win!!!!!

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  47. on July 30, 2009 at 2:36 pm Dr. Grzlickson

    How much did they pay you to fuck that bear?

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  48. Damn…*I think I’ve seen you guys…”

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  49. “You guys look like the SATC girls!”

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  50. I’d take the picture, look at it….

    chuckling, to disarm him (not that he needs disarming):

    “Hey man, we should take another. You look like a creeper back there. Smile or something.”

    my target would be the girl on the left who is trying to hijack the whole picture by protruding her head in the way of everyone else. she looks like she might have a slightly larger than average head. if she’s like most girls, she’s probably consciously aware of that fact.

    “sweetie, you should move your head to the right just a little bit…it’s blocking adolescent Fonzy bear there in the back.”

    after taking the picture, while maintaining eye-contact with the target say, “OK, howsabout buying the photographer a Pina colada.”

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  51. Zac said:

    “none are hot , all are about 4’s tops”

    That is completely ridiculous. Do you live in the world or just some imaginary dreamland where there are no women over 30 or obese? That is atleast 70% of the US population of over 18 women right there.

    Saying someone is a 4 is like saying (assuming normal probability distribution) that something like 60-70% of women in the population are hotter than them. Go to the mall sometime, buddy, 9 out of 10 women you see are going to be fat and old.

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  52. lurker

    ““You guys look like the SATC girls!”

    This is a pretty reliable routine I’ve used many times. Obviously, it’s not a killer, insta-wet panties routine, but it’s good early on in the interaction as it will generate lively conversation rich with negs/qualifying. Living in nyc, the routine is perfect if you can elicit that the girls are visiting new york, or haven’t been around for too long.

    “oh, so you’re the kind of girl that idolize SATC, taking the city “by storm”? [laughter], which one is which character, I know you guys have talked about this..”

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  53. on July 30, 2009 at 2:56 pm The Snatch Whisperer

    I take the pic and show the girls.
    To the Asian I say, “Don’t worry the camera adds ten pounds.”

    I look and the Blonde and say, “What are you smirking about? Is TopGun your favorite movie? …

    Moving on to the left,”And look at you, someone tell you this was Pajama Night?

    And I offer the first one to respond a Breath Mint…. No seriously… take one hun.

    I don’t even worry about the dude, maybe I ask the one on the far right if it’s take your brother to the bar night.

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  54. Facewise those girls are 8’s. Except the Asian is a 7; she lacks that radiance you start seeing with 8s and blinds you with 10s.

    (The red shirt can be a “two-face” — cute from some angles, odd looking from others.)

    Hard to tell bodywise, but they look slim enough… though the blondie would look better with sweet little perky A-cups. And no bra under that top. Now that’s so hot, I need to step away for a few minutes.

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  55. on July 30, 2009 at 3:03 pm The Snatch Whisperer

    To keep things rolling, I hand the camera to doucheboy and say, Now take one of us. I squeeze into the middle and put my arms around the girls on my right and left and say loudly ORGY on 3 1,….2, ….. ORGY..

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  56. on July 30, 2009 at 3:05 pm The Snatch Whisperer

    For the rest of the night I call the blond, Goose.

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  57. I’m back. Whew!

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  58. I think it’s funny how some people are just flat out insulting these girls. Telling the oriental girl to open her eyes, or calling the blond girl fat, making her turn so her friends can get in the picture. I can’t imagine you would really say this with any intention of continuing a conversation? It is funny though…

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  59. To girl on far left: “Nice sweater… did you borrow it from Aladdin?”

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  60. sweater girl will get the neg .(all credit to mystery)

    *to the blonde or anyone close to sweatergirl so she can hear*

    shes barely even hinting a smile… i bet when you guys go out you have to drag her kicking and screaming.

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  61. also sweater girl seems to be a new addition to the group.

    all the girls are huddled up, yet shes distant.

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  62. on July 30, 2009 at 3:26 pm Willard Libby

    I’m not feeling anything for any of them, other than hatred who the D-bag.

    And I wouldn’t take their picture if asked.

    But I would say – “Hey, blondie why do cute girls always surround themselves with ugly girlfriends and usually at least one gay guy?

    I think they are insecure about something. What do you think?”

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  63. on July 30, 2009 at 3:26 pm It's My First Day

    Tell Red Shirt that you saw a girl get kicked out of this place last week for showing less cleavage than she is so she better be on the lookout for the club’s owner, because he’s a bit of a nut job. This will intrigue the group and allow you to entertain them and show them your wit by making up a bullshit story, and it will subconsciously neg Red Shirt and knock her off balance by making her question whether or not she is dressed appropriately as well as very subtly bringing her sexuality into the energy of the interaction.

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  64. on July 30, 2009 at 3:30 pm Willard Libby

    PA

    Facewise those girls are 8’s. Except the Asian is a 7; she lacks that radiance you start seeing with 8s and blinds you with 10s.

    You have low standards.

    From left to right I give them a 1, a 4, a 0 and a 2.

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  65. re the age of the girls:

    The two on the left look to be in their early 20’s.

    The two on the right look to be in their late teens, with the one on the far right having an especially youthful face. Her face just gets my attention for some reason, even though she probably isn’t the prettiest in the group.

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  66. they’re all very doable – solid 7s, except for the asian chick who is not my preferred kind of asian chick.

    from left to right:

    “nice nightie. you know, red is a color associated with promiscuity. is that the kind of attention you want? because you actually look smart enough to know that.”

    “you look like such a california girl. i bet it bums you out that you can’t surf and smoke pot so much here in DC. it must be really different being around smart guys who know so much and, you know, run the country.

    “your tummy’s showing. very sexy, but keep it sucked in… nobody likes a muffin top.”

    “do you need a comb? because I can help you out with that hair if you want. believe me, i know what will make you look very sexy to a guy.”

    note the common thread of sexiness-talk right off the bat.

    for a group convo, i wouldn’t use an SATC reference – too cliched by this point. maybe lead off with a funny take on something topical, generic, to see what kind of personalties come out, and isolate/focus from there. it’s important to find out which of the crew is most interested in getting to you *you*.

    all things equal in that respect, the blonde is my clear fave.

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  67. Does anyone else think the blonde is the mama hen?

    Someone throw an age neg at her. She looks the oldest. (Even if she isn’t, but that’s how it goes with blondes)

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  68. First you have to spend a little

    For the girl in green:

    “Oh my god, you have the CUTEST little nose! You HAVE to be Romanian.” You can get her to talk about her ancestry, then accuse her of being a vampire that vants to suck your blood. Heck, accuse the whole group of being vampires on the hunt. The blonde gets to be Buffy. Get green shirt to bite you later.

    For the asian girl:

    “You two match! What’s with all the white going on today?” Later, after they’re more comfortable, you can say, “Speaking of white, you’re white on the inside too, huh? Don’t worry, we’d still love you.” Make sure you’re grinning on the last line.

    You can always ask “So how do you guys know each other?” if you want to break away from hitting on your target for a moment.

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  69. on July 30, 2009 at 3:41 pm International observer

    Mazen Abdul-Jawad, 32, has gone into hiding after appearing two weeks ago on Lebanese channel LBC — mainly owned by Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal — where he spoke to camera from his bedroom in the Saudi Red Sea city of Jeddah about how couples can spice up their sex lives.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE56T4PK20090730?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews

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  70. “It’s so nice to see 4 girls who clearly don’t mind excluding black people from their group.”

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  71. “So, do you guys do 5somes?”

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  72. [Points at Asian girl]
    So, is this guy your brother?

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  73. k im gonna give it a try though im a girl .

    heres what i would suggest doing to get the city of god girl who i think is hottest of the bunch.
    (hmmm thinking this is way harder than i thought)
    😦
    ok all o could come up with was asking this girl if that D bag is her twin

    oh and im sure that guy isnt going to be any obstacle for a guy . he seems completely harmless

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  74. “It’s so nice to meet some girls who don’t feel the need to dress up to go out and have fun.”

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  75. ahhh wtf lurker? i swear i didnt copy him .. we just think the same maybe
    >:o

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  76. [Point at guy, point at girls]

    So which one of you loaned him an earring?

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  77. on July 30, 2009 at 3:55 pm D. Ray Morton

    @ lurker: “You guys look like the SATC girls!”

    Haha… ouch. That’s not a neg. That’s an insult.

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  78. This is tough for me. I do not think in terms of procedure when it comes to pickup. You can even fudge (a bit!) with Mystery’s process and still win. But hey. lets give this a shot.

    I will try and come up with something for the two in the middle. I do not find the edge women as attractive.

    To the Asian:
    Nice purse.
    [very slight sarcasm]
    her: blah blah blah
    you: (quickly) It looks great for smuggling bananas, I bet that is what you are up to.

    To the Cans:
    You cut the bottom half of your hair for the summer?
    [focus on the top half of her hair]

    If the guy starts to fuck around I would tease him about his earring or ask if the girl on the right is his older sister taking him out on the town.

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  79. The white girls are 7s. Genuinely pretty, but nothing spectacular. The asian appears to be a 6, but she’s at a funny angle, so its hard to say.

    A lot of guys have a tendency to depress girls’ ratings just to out macho other guys and prove how ultra-high their standards are. Not an attractive trait.

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  80. So nice you guys took a picture to remind yourselves what life was like before me.

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  81. on July 30, 2009 at 4:02 pm Seeking Alpha

    A lot of guys have a tendency to depress girls’ ratings just to out macho other guys and prove how ultra-high their standards are. Not an attractive trait.

    Worth re-posting.

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  82. waiter dude is straight outta Laurel. all you DC locals know what i’m talking about.

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  83. So which sorority did you guys belong to at Lehigh?

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  84. on July 30, 2009 at 4:08 pm D. Ray Morton

    (Rodney Dangerfield voice) “Hey Wonton, Reese Witherspoon, step aside will ya? You’re blocking my view of the hottie behind you.”

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  85. From left to right I give them a 1, a 4, a 0 and a 2.

    Come on, be serious.

    One person’s 8 may be another’s 6, but giving numbers like 1, 0, and 2, to someone who is not deformed, obese, or with a mustache is not fair.

    I give them :

    6.5, 8, 6, 6.5

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  86. I don’t think the guy is with this group, and certainly not a boyfriend of any of them. Forget him, he is nothing.

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  87. G Manifesto wins again with the alpha move of confusing the herb with a waiter totally textbook or AMOG there. Even better would be say no to the camera since you’re busy heading to the VIP booth and hand 20 dollar bill to the blonde and order a drink. Make sure you leave before she says anything and pull it off with some panache, so she will follow you to give your money back and once you have separated her from the group open up with an original line or invitation to the VIP booth.

    Girl: Excuse me, but I’m not a waiter.
    G: I assumed because of the way you dress and you didn’t seem to fit with your entourage.
    Girl: What do you mean?
    G: If you guess my signature drink I will let you accompany me to the VIP room.
    Girl: Blah blah
    G: Interesting the club owner is a friend of mine… blah blah.

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  88. on July 30, 2009 at 4:31 pm Neganometry

    The guy, who resembles Jamie Kennedy: ‘Hey, Malibu’s Most Wanted, are you in this pic or not? Squeeze in between blondie and the Korean girl.’

    (Asshole-funny game, but I think he is most likely with these girls and that guy neg should get laughs at his expense while not being too cutting and getting him involved, while also lining him up to be defeated at a later time. I can’t tell if the faint outlines of fingers on girl in red and big tit blonde’s right shoulders are his hands or their own, probably their own, but the body positioning lines up so it could be his hands as well, and of course he’s looking right into the fucking camera!)

    Girl in red who looks miserable and forcing a smile: ‘Your risque get-up says ‘Night out with the girls, weoooo!’, but coupled with your tepid half-smile and blase body-language it says ‘Ugh, when will this be over? I just want to get home to my vibrator and cats already!”

    (For many reasons; first, she looks to be the oldest of the group, second, that negligee-bustier thing screams ‘look at my tits!’, which screams ‘god, I need to fuck tonight’, and a girl of her caliber (6-8, wildcard) should be getting consistent sex already, and if she’s not I’m assuming it’s why she looks miserable so I go in guns blazing.)

    Girl in yellow of possible questionable age: ‘I think I recognize you from (some crappy band’s) all-ages show at (some crappy club) last week…so sorry they didn’t serve you.’

    (Half compliment, half neg, I’ve used a derivative of this before and find that girls over 21 tend to take it as a compliment while 19-21’s take it as a neg, use only when you’re sure. Negs are not insults; the best negs are almost compliments that are delivered in backhanded fashion. Probably the prettiest girl in the group.)

    A mixed bag of asshole-funny, direct and witty indirect neggatry, gotta diversify.

    As for their looks, it’s a good but not great little set, don’t forget that girls in clubs are so rarely photogenic. Red negligee girl is a wildcard who could as easily be the worst looking in the group as she could be the best, and Asian girl appears to be a typical Asian. Big-smile-bigger-breasts blonde and potential jailbait yellow-shirt mix look like they could both be 8’s (floor: 7) easy…notice they’re the only two with big smiles?

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  89. on July 30, 2009 at 4:32 pm D. Ray Morton

    The guy is almost certainly not with the group.

    The disparity in apparent social status between the dweeb and the bimbos brings to mind cinematic classics like Can’t Buy Me Love.

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  90. Tell the guy to put his arms around all 4 – “take care of your harem, dude.” When he hesitates, ask the girls, “okay, you are not in his harem? Then you are in mine”, and put your arms around them. Tell the Asian gal, “you are showing your cute belly – it is jussst perfect for belly dancing.”

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  91. A lot of readers still cannot comprehend what a neg is. They are outright insulting the girls, and not being witty/funny/teasing at all. These men are disgruntled lesser Betas.

    Odd, since a neg is one of the easiest elements of Game to grasp and implement.

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  92. on July 30, 2009 at 4:40 pm Seeking Alpha

    @ Tood


    You – turn a bit so that you are standing 3/4 facing. That way you don’t look wider than your friends.

    OR…

    You – you look like the type who takes pictures of your friends, and then photoshops them to be shorter and fatter, so that you look taller and thinner in comparison, *before* posting them on facebook.

    Neg is probably one of the HARDEST aspects of game. Look at your two examples above. They seem pretty insulting to me. ‘Wide’ isn’t really a back-handed compliment.

    And I’m not trying to insult you either but rather point out how hard it is to find that fine line, especially with a total stranger.

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  93. I meant the girl on the left. They would look more similar if he didn’t pluck his eyebrows so much.

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  94. on July 30, 2009 at 4:41 pm Willard Libby

    Mandy! XD

    Does anyone else think the blonde is the mama hen?

    Someone throw an age neg at her. She looks the oldest. (Even if she isn’t, but that’s how it goes with blondes)

    Retract your claws, dark haired kitty.

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  95. Bodylanguage-wise the three girls on the left seem to be a tighter subgroup, with the blonde being dominant and the asian the mother hen.

    Disarm the mother hen via friendly-fun comment on boomerang-conceiling purse, then neg the blonde with a little-sister-ish-routine based on her feather earrings (“Cute earrings – my baby sister/niece/etc. made some just like ’em.”) when she tries to recapture attention.

    This can also be used to engage and win over the “outsiders” – lace girl on the left + background beta to ingroup – and create ingroup of everyone besides blonde girl, which will force her to qualify, thus simultaneously dlv’ing herself and establishing your higher value. Solid foundation for further attraction work.

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  96. @tood

    Indeed, it seems we have some bitter betas in the crowd. Maybe they are going for the “Nuke the pussy from orbit” category.

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  97. To all of them: “Are you all nicknamed the bratz?

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  98. I would look into the camera and make an exaggerated sigh, shake my head slowly with my eyes closed and then at the group in a disappointed tone “totally unoriginal. It’s almost a lost cause but, being as good as I am, I might be able to fix this.”

    I would take off a prop (let’s say a ring or a hat) and put it on the the big breasted girl in the white second from the left while saying, “try this on, there might be hope after all” This is said with a sly smirk and a wink. This automatically locks my target in and shows a sign of trust, it’s also an IOI and a neg at the same time. I give her a once-over, then nod my head in approval and in a cocky tone: “now you’re worthy to be captured.. on film that is – yep, they used to call me ‘cameraman’ back in high school” – this is said in playful, nose up in the air, cocky attitude as I walk back to the spot in a slow manner swinging the camera from it’s string.

    I take the picture on the count of 3 and then say to the guy (whom I’ve been ignoring up until this point) – “hey man this is your lucky night!” (pause, walk towards him) – “You get to take a picture!” I squeeze in the middle of the girls (right next to my target) and wait for him to take the picture. I give bunny ears – two fingers pointing up over her head – to my target while the pic is taken.

    After that, “so you guys started with out me, eh? I told you to call if you were going to be early! And, I had such trouble parking, I had to hit someone on my way into the space.. (blah blah quick 3 minute homicide parking routine that gives humor, DHVs with IOI’s and IOD’s peppered in).

    Turn to my target, “you can always make up for it by buying me a drink.” (smirk)

    Go from there..

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  99. “It’s the only way to be sure.”

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  100. @WillardLibby:

    Meow?

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  101. One neg that ALWAYS has value among any ladies who are 28 or higher is :

    Let me guess, you (target) are the oldest, the leader and mentor of the group, and you (least attractive) are the youngest.

    That *fries* the understood hierarchy of the group. Again, you are not commenting on their looks, but their apparent age. The target is thoroughly negged, even though you framed her as a leader and mentor.

    Seeking Alpha,

    Not at all. My negs are said in a humorous way. They are not nasty insults at all. ‘Wide’ does not automatically mean ‘fat’ but she may interpret it as such.

    Another neg to the camera owner, after they ask for a photo to be taken :

    You look so cute when you are operating advanced electronic devices.

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  102. on July 30, 2009 at 4:52 pm D. Ray Morton

    To the two in the middle: “Take off ya shoyts and stay awhile.”

    (Works best if you look like Eric Von Sydow. Must be delivered with Coney Island accent)

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  103. @Tood, “A lot of readers still cannot comprehend what a neg is. They are outright insulting the girls, and not being witty/funny/teasing at all. These men are disgruntled lesser Betas.”

    Hey, at least none of them have incorporated Roissy’s “Hitting A Woman Will Turn Her On” post by saying they would smack one of the girls.

    yet.

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  104. @ The G Manifesto “I would deny the Asian girl from ordering the “grande Nachos”.”

    LMAO.

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  105. on July 30, 2009 at 4:58 pm Cannon's Canon

    If you’re going to blow out the guy with an obscure Jamie Kennedy movie reference, I would prefer “rezzy’s the color, NUGGAH!!!”

    I agree with PA though; it would be more helpful to win him over. He looks more likely to block you than to transfer your buying temperature.

    To the blonde: “Your shirt looks like a basketball jersey. Are you a Knicks fan?”

    Being asked to take a group photo is like winning a free set. First, I turn the camera and take a photo of myself. Then, I ask the group what emotion they are going for. I’ve drawn this out into a whole photo shoot routine, where I suggested contrasting emotions to do some push-pull and described some scenarios to do a little role-playing.

    More generic: just tell whoever hands you the camera that her friends look pretty tonight. Say “I’ve done this a lot… don’t smile til I say so. Ok, Target** (“red”, “blonde”, or “green”), you smile first.” Take the picture, then say, “much more even now.”

    ** asian will not be targeted

    // chuck got me to burst out laughing with the “eyes closed” idea. big positive for g manifesto of course, also.

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  106. “You want me to take your picture? I’m a professional photographer, it’ll cost you $5 per picture… unless you make it pretty.”
    -Snap, look at it, grimace
    “That’ll be $5.”

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  107. askjoe,

    One high risk/high return approach I have used with success in club game is :

    After you get attraction and rapport with a woman, and she touches you TWICE, in a clearly interested way, you say (in a funny way)….

    “Hey, I didn’t say you could touch me yet…..Naughty girl!!”

    (and then spank her ONCE on the ass in a playful way).

    30% of the time, the reaction is negative.

    The other 70% of the time, it is POSITIVE, and you have moved things along quickly towards the chance of a same-night lay.

    Being confident in your playful, humorous way is key. Any self-doubt on your part will make the whole think look bad.

    But a 70% chance of having her giggle and respond positively.

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  108. To girl on left, “A toothless smile? Let me guess, you lost your retainer?”

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  109. @Tood, 70% of the time, it works all the time, eh?

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  110. thats my dawg in the back right thurr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why yall hatin!!!

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  111. now, it’s bothering me, where is that place. Is it Policy?

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  112. on July 30, 2009 at 5:21 pm Backdoor Man

    Some of you guys really are morons. And there is a subset of you that has never even approached a girl, let alone kissed one or slept with one. Do you think hostilities are going to impress them? Keep it light and fun, not angry. You are taking their picture. You already have their attention, and they are smiling at you….you should be playful, not a jackass. Use the camera as a prop, and use the situation to initiate teasing and physical contact.

    They are all cute girls, and they like look real girls: no visible tattoos, excessive makeup, or really trashy clothes (although I don’t know what the hell is going on with red). Yellow is definitely my target, because she has an authentic and sweet smile. One thing I’ve learned: find a happy woman with a nice smile, because if you know how to handle her, you are going to be looking at that smile a lot. When other women compliment my old lady (she is “adorable” or she is “soooo cute”), it’s often because of her smile.

    If you are going for a quick lay, you can target somebody else, according to your own criteria. I only approach girls I would like to have as a girlfriend, and based on the photo, yellow is the way to go.

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  113. on July 30, 2009 at 5:21 pm goldoildrugz

    ROISSY!!!
    ROISSY!!!
    ROISSY!!!

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,25703333-23272,00.html

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,25703333-23272,00.html

    http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,,25703333-23272,00.html

    “WHEN it comes to the question of who’s hot or not, research has found that beauty is skin deep for men and in the eye of the beholder for women.

    The study by psychologists from a North Carolina university has found that men are much more likely to come to a consensus when defining what they find attractive in the opposite sex.”

    AND you still haven’t done a piece on how some scientists have apparently synthesised sperm and what it means

    more thoughts on the world and less fucking “game”

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  114. from right to left:

    “i don’t care what anyone says, that necklace looks good on you”

    “i like this; the way you try to show the camera your good side.”

    “that’s cute… the way you blush when you see something you like.”

    “you know, not every girl can pull off short hair.”

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  115. on July 30, 2009 at 5:28 pm D. Ray Morton

    In all seriousness, I’d probably have gone with a variation of what Brad posted, second paragraph. Good or bad, that’s probably closest to what I would actually have said/done.

    @ Zanzibar: ““You want me to take your picture? I’m a professional photographer, it’ll cost you $5 per picture… unless you make it pretty.”
    -Snap, look at it, grimace
    “That’ll be $5.”

    I’ve actually done something pretty close to that.

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  116. To guy: “Hey dude, these girls sure do like hogging the camera, ‘specially these 2 on the left. At least you could smile (motioning to lefty). Nudge on in here for the pic.”

    To broads, left to right:

    1. “You must be the visionary in your family.” Her – “Why?” “Not many would pair a sweater with a nighty. That takes vision.” Delivered deadpan.

    2. To both blondie & asian: “Did you guys go to high school together. It’s the same uniform, not at all visionary like your friend here. Actually, it looks like you raided Kid Rock’s closet for wife-beaters. Or was that part of the school uni too?”

    3. To far right: It’s refreshing to see someone who doesn’t feel the need to be impeccably coiffed at all moments of every day. It’s great you can just roll on out for a drink. That is cool.”

    Obviously you can’t do this in the round-robin format I wrote. Depends on the vibe & responses. But have something in mind for each. That said, I probably wouldn’t neg asian. She’s probably a bit self-conscious enough (though ya wouldn’t know it by the short tee showing her genetic version of Dunkin Donuts).

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  117. Roissy should do a weekly feature: “Best of Lurker” comments. Funny shit.

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  118. If they’re fun, direct it like it’s a porn shoot, or like they’re on the Howard Stern show.
    “Are you guys coming from the gay rights march?”
    “Why don’t you kiss”
    “Come on fake like you guys like each other”

    Also, their names are:
    Background DB: “golden earring”
    L2R: “Princess Zelda” “Tank top” “belly shirt” and “Mardi Gras beads”

    If they’re not fun, do the same thing. Blondie is the hottest, but I’d probably go for the velveteen one with the rack hanging out. I’m lazy that way.

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  119. Oh, and insulting them isn’t “nuke from orbit.” RAPE is.

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  120. My target for sex would be the brunette on the left. Blondie has nice tits, but I think the one in red is prettier.

    I’d neg the group as a whole by accusing them of being bridge and tunnel crew. In Vancouver, there is a shitty white trash suburb called Maple Ridge (“Maple Ditch”), and I’d ask them how they’re going to get home there if they’re drinking all night.

    Blondie gets negged for being too rosy cheeked. I’d ask her if she’s part Asian (they get red when they drink), and accuse her of being a lush.

    Asian girl gets accused of being a banana (yellow on the outside but white on the inside), for hanging with “gwai-los” (white ppl). I would ask her if she’s blondie’s half sister.

    I’d ask Mexican girl if she rode her bike to the bar [cuz she looks like a hippie]

    Red shirt, I would neg her by ignoring her for a while, and chatting up everyone else. Later, I would compliment her on her sweater, and how my boss has the exact same one. That’s JC Penney right?

    I would not attack dude right away. Try to make friends with him, and get his ok to be in the group. Then, slowly grind him down. Question him on why he’s out with these girls when they obviously don’t want to bang him. Goad him into hitting on other girls in the bar.

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  121. Reading these comments, I conclude that 75% of the people here have 0 success with woman. The giveaway? You’re overly serious and have found a way to take something that’s simple and enjoyable and turn it into a monstrous Rube Goldberg Machine. You make things about as much fun as a punch to the nutsack.

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  122. these
    responses
    are… painful

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  123. on July 30, 2009 at 5:54 pm D. Ray Morton

    @ Backdoor Man: “Some of you guys really are morons.”

    Good one, but I’m not sure how they’d take it.

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  124. kapowkapowkapow.

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  125. on July 30, 2009 at 6:03 pm Steve Johnson

    Chris’s Cannon:

    “Being asked to take a group photo is like winning a free set. First, I turn the camera and take a photo of myself. Then, I ask the group what emotion they are going for. I’ve drawn this out into a whole photo shoot routine, where I suggested contrasting emotions to do some push-pull and described some scenarios to do a little role-playing.”

    This is brilliant.

    You lead the group getting dominance points and if you run this right you get to instill emotions directly into your target. Have her the target to jealousy or anger at one of the friends. If she does the face she’ll feel an echo of the emotion. Jealousy works. Meanwhile you’ve entertained the whole group with a fun experience (what girl doesn’t like showing emotions for attention?)

    This is going into my toolkit. Thanks.

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  126. on July 30, 2009 at 6:12 pm Steve Johnson

    Have her the target to jealousy or anger at one of the friends.

    Should be:

    Have the target do jealousy or anger at one of the friends.

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  127. Hmmmm. Upon closer inspection all of these broads fail the collarbone test. Likely a couple of chunky asses and at least one set of cankles in the bunch.

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  128. I would neg them in the best way possible:

    “You guys look like you voted for Obama. But maybe not everything you do is herd following.”

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  129. “You guys look like Mandy! XD, except thin and female.”

    —confuses them, sicne Mandy! XD is a whore as well. And ugly.

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  130. “So, who wants to play ‘spin on lurker’s penis?’ Your bodyguard can’t play, though.

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  131. “So which new CW drama are you from?”

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  132. [to girl on the left] Can I have a Jack and Coke? …. Oh wait you don’t work here… you kind of match the decor. =p

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  133. Approach the one on the left and say:

    “Santa Claus called. He wants that top back before Christmas.”

    Don’t even worry about the skinny d-bag. If he says anything turn around and bust a double-bi pose.

    @ G: great math skills BTW

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  134. foreign object to the head. spray paint your name on their comatose carcasses. hit the music. walk out.

    wait, neg or wrestling stable war?

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  135. To girl who gave you the camera:

    “Can’t you think of a better way of getting me to talk to you?”

    To group:

    “Is she always this shy? or did one of you put her up to this?”

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  136. [any] thoughtful stare… you look high maintenance…

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  137. you guys gotta do better than this

    mout

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  138. one on the far right looks like she fucks the best. looks like she’d geta thrill out of swallowing your cum on camera.

    Asian girl looks like she can be talked into it.

    the other two look too princessy for it.

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  139. all are in the 6-7 bracket, except the asian, who is a 5

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  140. @lurker:

    Oh wow, did you just try to neg me?
    How sweet.

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  141. Lurker and Mandy are like the Roissy and LR of the comments section, in terms of dynamic.

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  142. on July 30, 2009 at 7:11 pm Walker Texas Lever

    I’d tell the the Asian chick that she can give the dude his purse back. This would start altercation and then I’d get thrown out by the bouncers.

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  143. roissy,

    you were referenced here:

    http://www.feministing.com/archives/016974.html

    you should have trademarked “ball cutting cybersuccubus”

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  144. @S:

    Don’t listen to anything he says; he eats kittens.

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  145. hahahaha those are awesome business cards.

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  146. The three white girls are 8s. Not 7s, 6s, 4s, or 0s. Facewise; can’t tell bodywise.

    The numbers for reference: 5 is indifferent, 6 is approaching cute, 7 is cute with flashes of pretty, 8 is consistently pretty, 9 is hot, and 10 is beautiful. And these girls look pretty.

    Red shirt can be too quirky from some angles, but she’s cute++. Blondie has the kind of face you can’t stop looking at. She might be approaching 9 in fact. Except that I am gonna photoshop small boobies on her later. And far-right is a doll. Whoever said she looks Romanian, is very perceptive.

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  147. the girl on the left is above the others. even her smile is hotter than the others´.

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  148. Interesting post, similar to previous posts as how one would approach a group of gals.

    Can’t really say I have anything to add to the post and discussion as its curently defined. My personal experience has been that doing approaches and the like isn’t as productive as working on oneself to such an extent that you attract females to you.

    Not many Brothas I actually know approach gals in such a manner. Don’t know exactly why that is, nor am I saying that such an approach doesn’t work-I suspect there’s an HBD factor, or perhaps better to say, a number of HBD factors, at work. As a rule I find Whites to be quite fond of witty banter and the like, and something I don’t find many Black folk to be all that into as a rule, at least not right off the bat-they/we gotta know you first.

    Now, don’t get me wrong; in no way am I saying that approaches of the kind mentioned above don’t work; just saying that it may be culturally, even racially contextually-dependent, if I can put it like that. Its hard to see such an approach work at say, Zanzibar Blue or Warmdaddy’s among a bunch of Sistas. At least I’ve yet to see it.

    Just sayin.

    The Obsidian

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  149. *EDIT* (First one got screwed up a bit)

    First you have to spend a little time ingratiating yourself into the group. Others have pointed out great ways to do this with the camera. I say rearrange them and have them do the captain morgan’s pose.

    For the girl in green:

    “Oh my god, you have the CUTEST little nose! You HAVE to be Romanian.” You can get her to talk about her ancestry, then accuse her of being a vampire that vants to suck your blood. Heck, accuse the whole group of being vampires on the hunt. The blonde gets to be Buffy. Get green shirt to bite you later.

    For the asian girl:

    “You two MATCH! What’s with all the WHITE going on today?” Later, after they’re more comfortable, you can say, “Speaking of white, I can tell you’re TOTALLY white on the inside too. Don’t worry, we still love you.” Make sure you’re grinning on the last line.

    You can always ask “So how do you guys know each other?” if you want to break away from hitting on your target for a moment.

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  150. You hand the camera to the girl on the right and say “honey you’d be killer if you practiced your smile more, here’s the camera take some self shots when you get home and send them to me”.

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  151. lurker’s suggestions are so lame.

    Roosh ftw

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  152. abe, bite me.

    Mandy, no, a neg would imply you’re attractive, cuntrag.

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  153. I love how the feminazi with the Roissy business cards tries to change the rules for herself. Several commenters call her out on this, but she is tone deaf.

    1) Feminazis decry jokes about violence against women.

    2) Feminazi makes joke about violence against men.

    3) Feminazi tries to justify double standard (which feminazis “hate”) by claiming that the joke is silly and taken from an evil male. Also, it is ridiculous.

    Then one feminazi asks how many men do we know have been castrated?

    Well, at least one (John Wayne Bobbit).

    but apparently, making jokes that are out of proportion to reality is ok for feminazis.

    So guys—let’s make jokes about women being gang raped by 1000 guys and dying a painful death by vaginal bleeding and post them on feministing. Let’s see how the feminazis like it.

    A double standard for feminism? No way. lol.

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  154. on July 30, 2009 at 8:09 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    Clever, Roissy. A trick question.

    None of the girls in the picture is hot enough to require negging.
    Not remotely close, even.

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  155. Roissy and Chic Noir are the Howard Stern and Robin Quivers of the comments section.

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  156. PA and Avela* are the Serge Gainsbrough and Jane Birkin of the comments section. Birkin also had lovely little tits, but she wasn’t as fat as Avela.

    (* only if Avela is teh blondie from that photo two days ago)

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  157. I’m as smooth and dirty-looking as that fucker Serge. Except I hit the gym, unlike that bony hippie French fuck:

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  158. Epoxy:

    the fact that they’re probably only 22 or so, plus in a group of 4 means that they probably think they’re higher on the scale than they may actually be.

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  159. I would argue that Jane Birkin is more promiscuous than Avela. Wasn’t it reputed that she had a real orgasm during the audio recording of “Je T’aime, Moi Non Plus”?

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  160. it reputed that she had a real orgasm

    Yes Ma’am. The Youtube I posted above doesn’t play the full song, but start listening at 2:30

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  161. “So nice you guys took a picture to remind yourselves what life was like before me.”

    This is great, lol.

    My take on the situation first: these girls are cute. As others have already mentioned, they are all in the solid 7 range (depending on preference – I’d personally go for one of the two “colorful” girls). Coming in with a heavy neg would probably just seem vindictive – although it’s certainly possible that asshole game will get you far with one of these girls (allow me to repeat my maxim: you must be an asshole with all women some of the time, but with some women all of the time).

    So, this is how I’d go about the situation.

    *Snaps picture*
    *Gives camera to target*
    Me: OK, your turn.
    *Moves in with girls, puts arms around them*
    *Points at target, now with camera*
    Me: Hey, you sure you know how to use of those?
    Me (*loud enough so target can hear*): I don’t know about your friend there, she looks like the kind of girl who’d deliberately cut one of you guys out of the picture.
    *Smirk*

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  162. on July 30, 2009 at 8:30 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ chuck

    Epoxy:

    the fact that they’re probably only 22 or so, plus in a group of 4 means that they probably think they’re higher on the scale than they may actually be.

    True, yeah.

    Still, you don’t actually need to neg girls like this with words. All it takes is body language and intonation that say “Seriously? You think you’re all that?”
    Easy, because that’s what you actually should be thinking when you look at these girls, since … they’re not all that.

    The same sort of nonverbal communication also works wonders with girls who really are all that and a bag of sunchips.
    In that case, though, it’s impossible to affect aloofness/superiority until you’ve reached the point at which you’ve had so many hot girls that you really couldn’t care less.

    Epoxytocin No. 87 maxim #16: You can’t effectively neg a girl of hotness level N until you’ve already had girls of hotness level (N – 1).

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  163. on July 30, 2009 at 8:31 pm Willard Libby

    roissy and khuntiah?/Ghost of Nicole are the Howard Stern and Artie Lange of the comments section.

    I just found a video of the two guys who best represent obsidian and David Alexander:

    No matter how many times I’ve seen it I still can’t stop laughing

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  164. Those of you who would ridicule the earring-wearing guy without first ascertaining if he’s an AMOG who would do the same to you are exacerbating, in your own pathetic small way, one of the societal problems this blog continually addresses: the inflated sense of entitlement women have.

    By mocking some innocent bystander solely because he’s a male in their social circle, you pedestal every woman in the group. Women hear your insults and think, “Wow, I must be hot, this stranger dude is so desperate to get in my under-douched vag, he just insulted a guy he doesn’t know.”

    What’s worse, the guy in question could be a stand-up chap, a much better man than you, a warrior for the transcendent causes some of you profess to believe in. But, go ahead, let a woman’s possession of a pussy excuse your lack of honor.

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  165. Has anyone ever noticed that Williard *never& actually participates in these “test your Game” type posts? Nor does he actually posts much on Game itself, or his experiences w/Women?

    He attempts to make fun of me and Dave Alex, yet even the most casual reader of this forum can find quite a few posts giving DA counsel. Can we say the same of Williard, giving similar counsel to *anyone* here?

    See Williard, a Man is defined not only by what he does, but how many lives he’s touched in one way or another. When the final record is read-yours-what will it sound like? Hmm?
    *slowly shakes head*

    O

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  166. Again, left to right :

    6.5, 8, 6, 6.5 (but this rightmost one could rise higher with a better hairstyle)

    An interesting set, as all 4 are within the narrow range between 6 and 8. It is not often a 4-set will be this uniform in looks.

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  167. Obsidian:

    “Has anyone ever noticed that Williard”

    No.

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  168. on July 30, 2009 at 8:46 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ Tood

    “turn a bit so that you are standing 3/4 facing”
    “I give them : 6.5, 8, 6, 6.5”
    “among any ladies who are 28 or higher”
    “30% of the time, the reaction is negative”
    “moderate game is worth $2 million”

    You’re killing me with the vagueness, man. At least hit me with some ballpark figures.

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  169. I have little to add, being a girl, but are you really calling any of these girls >6? SRSLY.

    @ Epoxytocin No. 87

    Epoxytocin No. 87 maxim #16: You can’t effectively neg a girl of hotness level N until you’ve already had girls of hotness level (N – 1).

    Please point me to the other 15 Epoxytocin maxims. KTHXBAI.

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  170. Epoxy,

    Moderate game competence is worth *about* the same as $2 million in net worth terms of SMW. That is an average sum, and individual results may vary.

    In other words, take 1 group of men with moderate Game an little or no money, and another group of Betas with $2 million each. The average age and looks of the two groups are the same. Both groups will, on average, get the same results with women.

    Don’t forget about the Four Horsemen of Male Vengeance that come to fruition by 2020.

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  171. @WillardLibby:

    “Lurker and Mandy are more like the Dr. Hannibal Lecter and Clarice Starling of the comment section.”
    How?

    @lurker:

    awwww, did you miss out on nap time today? I know how cranky you get when you don’t get your nap. 😦

    @Obsidian:

    Willard just insults everyone. That’s what he does. Take it or leave it. It’s him.

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  172. @LILPXY- those first 15 should be disclosed as part of the prenup, no?

    also, they’re not that bad. generically attractive.

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  173. on July 30, 2009 at 8:57 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    Please point me to the other 15 Epoxytocin maxims. KTHXBAI.

    Here they are.

    Epoxytocin No. 87 maxim #1: A free sample that’s too big becomes a free lunch.

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  174. also, “KTHXBAI”? WTF?

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  175. Chuck, Mandy,
    W/o question Williard is the Oscar the Grouch of the board, but the question is WHY. From all that I’ve read, seen and observed of others in my life, I can only conclude that Willard is a deepy unhappy Man. And a big part of that unhappiness stems from a lack of Women in his life, because as any Man knows, going through life w/o knowing the love of a Woman is often a fate worse than death.

    Willard is a pitiful figure to behold, for sure.

    Sad.

    O

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  176. “Please point me to the other 15 Epoxytocin maxims. KTHXBAI.”

    The most important maxim :

    LILGRL can do much, much better than EpoxyBeta No. 87. She is underselling herself.

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  177. @Obsidian:

    No, that’s just who he is.

    I know people like that who are just like that.

    Maybe they are unhappy on the inside, I don’t know.

    But not everyone acts like they’re vomiting rainbows when they’re happy.

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  178. “holy shit, roissy got ID’ed? bound to happen sooner or later.”

    What? Where?

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  179. on July 30, 2009 at 9:04 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ Tood

    I got you, man. I just love the … incredible precision of your statistics, that’s all.
    It reminds me of a gas station I walked into the other day, with a mat on the counter that said “We will card you if you look over 33.”
    33!

    Thought experiment:
    How many points would have to be on the looks scale before NOBODY would EVER use decimal ratings?

    Both groups will, on average, get the same results with women.

    I don’t know about that.

    In many ways, a rich beta (or omega) is the worst possible combination, unless he’s smart enough to hide most (but not all) signs of his wealth.

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  180. on July 30, 2009 at 9:05 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ Tood

    I got you, man. I just love the … incredible precision of your statistics, that’s all.
    It reminds me of a gas station I walked into the other day, with a mat on the counter that said “We will card you if you look over 33.”
    33!

    Thought experiment:
    How many points would have to be on the looks scale before NOBODY would EVER use decimal ratings?

    Both groups will, on average, get the same results with women.

    I don’t know about that.

    In many ways, a rich beta (or o m e g a) is the worst possible combination, unless he’s smart enough to hide most (but not all) signs of his wealth.

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  181. Mandy,
    I respect your opinion, and do not mean to pull rank; but as a Man I know other Men. And I do not think it is any accident that ALL one can find of Willard’s posts are where he’s insulting someone else. He never talks about his experiences w/Women. Never talks about love. Or even sex for that matter. Never attempts to help his fellow White brothers in the Game-heck, I’ve done more of that than he has, here.

    Sometimes Occam’s Razor has to be applied.

    O

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  182. A man who is grouchy and serious is probably unhappy. One who is grouchy and funny probably isn’t.

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  183. on July 30, 2009 at 9:11 pm Willard Libby

    Obsidian

    Has anyone ever noticed that Williard *never& actually participates in these “test your Game” type posts?

    I did right here:

    Nor does he actually posts much on Game itself, or his experiences w/Women?

    I don’t tend to chit chat with guys about women. I’m here as an observer and occasional trouble maker. And by here I mean Earth.

    But I made comments here and here.

    He attempts to make fun of me and Dave Alex, yet even the most casual reader of this forum can find quite a few posts giving DA counsel.

    Now what are you whining about? How was I making fun of YOU? Hell, you knocked him out at 1:50 of the first round! My point is that when you “counsel” DA it’s pretty one sided and he ends up being the loser.

    Can we say the same of Williard, giving similar counsel to *anyone* here?

    I don’t tend to counsel adult men on how to attract women. And DA is well beyond anybody’s counsel, including yours Oh, Wise Prophetic Negro.

    See Williard, a Man is defined not only by what he does, but how many lives he’s touched in one way or another.

    I don’t touch other men.

    When the final record is read-yours-what will it sound like? Hmm?
    *slowly shakes head*

    Mine will sound very scratchy, like somebody playing a record backwards trying to find hidden satanic lyrics in a song.

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  184. One thing about Willard is that he is adamantly against any form of male-bonding or male interaction.

    which i don’t understand.

    willard, do you try to associate with women *all the time*? if so, why? what are you so afraid of male bonding?

    i’m thinking father issues.

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  185. Willard doesn’t bond with *anyone*.

    He just flirts with LadyRaine and insults everyone else.

    It’s his secret way of showing lurv and affection, right Willard? :p

    Wait, Willard, are you in the military (or have you ever been in the armed forces)?

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  186. on July 30, 2009 at 9:24 pm Willard Libby

    Willard Libby

    Obsidian

    Has anyone ever noticed that Williard *never& actually participates in these “test your Game” type posts?

    I did right here:

    Wrong link on my part. I meant right here

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  187. This is a timely post as I just read something that really rang true about the neg on Roosh’s blog. He puts it this way…

    “The goal of material in the middle of our compliment-insult scale [edit: the neg] is to make her aware of her own faults instead of yours. Once the focus is taken off you, she will be much more susceptible to game.”

    That articulates it perfectly.

    Too bad ‘ole Conor Friedersdorfendorkenspeilersperm couldn’t grasp the concept this way. It moves the girl out of state; her defenses momentarily drop as she shifts her focus away from thinking critically about you to critically examining herself.

    In fact, a simple neg is the perfect response when one’s wife/GF/significant other throws a shit test at you:

    Her: “Don’t tell me you forgot to bring home some XYZ from the store while you were out.”
    Me: “It was much more important to get this new mouthwash stuff. Your bottle was all out under your sink.”

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  188. on July 30, 2009 at 9:34 pm Willard Libby

    Chuck

    willard, do you try to associate with women *all the time*?

    It seems like it’s all the time considering I have them in my yard, under my house, in my attic, in the basement freezer….

    So yeah I do “associate” with women quite a bit.

    if so, why? what are you so afraid of male bonding?

    Anal rape.

    Mandy! XD

    Wait, Willard, are you in the military (or have you ever been in the armed forces)?

    Strictly confidential. I’m not allowed to discuss my misguided youth.

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  189. el chief always nails these threads. Bravo.

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  190. First who’s my target? The blonde. I’d tend to think that the girl on the far left (viewer’s left) is the best LTR candidate and will age way better than blondie. The Chinese looking girl isn’t that hot and looks the most mannish and least submissive of the group. Definitely the mother hen/cockblock here. The other three girls look quite deliciously submissive but the far left LTR girl looks like a slower win, and if w/a bf, maybe not winnable. (More power to her.) Blondie’s got a great bod but is also at first tough. But can be taken and had fun with. She does need negging.

    I think epoxy’s all 6 or lower is way too tough. Not real world. 5=average, not bad looking 6=cute 7=clearly pretty 8=very pretty/beautiful 9=gorgeous 10=world class gorgeous. Left to right: 7.5, 8, 6, 7.

    So blondie it is. (Well I’m just breaking it down. I decided that after looking for a few secs.)

    I ask for the camera back, since I say the last shot wasn’t quite right. I say to dufus (my guess the brother of girl on the left), since he wasn’t really in the last shot but was sort of this background distraction, that maybe he could exit the background and get us all a round of drinks; I’ll handle the next one. I’d say to red dress on the left that she should work on her smile this time. Give us something. Nothing’s wrong, I hope? Btw aren’t you a little overdressed for your girlfriends? I’d tell right end girl that her beads are cute. The peasant look is so much fun. Chinese girl I’d ask to stop trying to hide bead girl’s topside with her ginormous purse, and to try to put some warmth in her smile. You have it in you cuttie [to Chinese girl]. Blondie I’d ask to turn a bit to her right, so her roots don’t show so much and so she doesn’t take up quite so much room.

    Ok now girls. We I say showtime, I want warm, fun loving girl smiles. From ALL of you this time. Bead girl you were good on that, so keep it up. Ready. Go. Showtime!

    Picture taken. Then say warm friendly joking things to each girl, before turning main attention to blondie. The cockblock concern is Chinese girl though.

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  191. Small talk ensues about whether they are all out for a special occasion and blah blah blah. I don’t ignore zombie-boy, but I never give him more than a glance of acknowedgement. If he pushes it, I make a game of finding out if he is going to be an obstacle by “guessing” out loud the he’s with the blonde and judging the reaction.

    The logical target is the one in red. Notice how the other three lean in together while she’s actually angling away. Not only is she less connected, she may actually want to get the fuck away from them.

    “You’re brave to wear your lingerie out in public like that. Aren’t you afraid guys might think you’re anxious to get to bed?”

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  192. @lilgrl

    Whatever these girls’ ratings are, you’re much, much lower. Even when compared to the unfortunate looking Asian above, she wins hands down!

    Also hilarious to see Epoxy ragging on these girls when he’s settled for you. Priceless.

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  193. on July 30, 2009 at 9:50 pm Epoxytocin No. 87

    @ Doug

    I think epoxy’s all 6 or lower is way too tough. Not real world.

    Did I give numbers?

    To me, a girl just isn’t that hot unless she’s not only hot, but also striking in some way. She’s not 8, 9, or 10 unless she’s hot but also has at least one quality that would make her immediately noticeable in, say, a throng on a Times Square sidewalk.

    OK, the blonde is a seven. The others are mid-range. Unless this is a really, really bad picture, the girl on the right is south of 5.

    I still stick by my statement that there is no reason to neg these girls.
    At least not beyond the normal teasing that accompanies ALL non-dysfunctional m/f interactions.

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  194. GayButtox @ LILGRL can do much, much better than EpoxyBeta No. 87. She is underselling herself.

    And

    DonAil –@lilgrl Whatever these girls’ ratings are, you’re much, much lower. Even when compared to the unfortunate looking Asian above, she wins hands down!

    Also hilarious to see Epoxy ragging on these girls when he’s settled for you. Priceless.

    You’re both sound like you’re from serious hunger and are of course completely nuts. LILGRL and Expoxy are a very hot couple.

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  195. I find you to be quite pathetic Willard, as no doubt others do as well. For all your bluster about White this and White that, your aversion to your own kind speaks volumes about you.

    Roissy’s very existence, in the form of this blog, stands in stark contrast to your own stated “goals”.

    And no, I don’t I’ve lost anything when it comes to our friend Dave Alex. You give up way too easily.

    You’re a sick Man, Willard, and I don’t use that term lightly. Others who share your skintone find your fratboy style amusing, I find it pathetic. Its one thing to do that when you actually *are* a boy-but when you’re a grownassed Man, its a bit much.

    O

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  196. You’re both sound like you’re from serious hunger and are of course completely nuts. LILGRL and Expoxy are a very hot couple.

    LILGRL : Hot. Epoxytocin No. 87 : Not

    Of course, this opinion from a man who speaks competently about Game, but spends several hours a day flirting with one or two women online. This, by definition, consumes all of your time and precludes any time spent on actual real-world Game.

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  197. spends several hours a day flirting with one or two women online.

    I wish that’s what he spent online time doing.

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  198. GayButtox–

    This, by definition, consumes all of your time and precludes any time spent on actual real-world Game.

    No, it doesn’t. Not close.

    As well, I’m in a living together relationship, not out doing bar or club pickup at the moment.

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  199. @LadyRaine:

    At least you weren’t compared to Clarisse and Hannibal.

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  200. Bhetti–

    You have mail.

    Also don’t pout or lobby, bad bitch. I do spent way too much time w/you.

    Enjoyable though, since you’re an entertaining and rather sexy sort of bint.

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  201. As well, I’m in a living together relationship, not out doing bar or club pickup at the moment.

    In that case, why, then, so many hours online flirting with one or more women? Surely there are better uses for those hours.

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  202. bint

    Dude, you are immersing!

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  203. Or should I say, walad, you are immersing!

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  204. Bint? Walad? Meanings?

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  205. That is completely ridiculous. Do you live in the world or just some imaginary dreamland where there are no women over 30 or obese? That is atleast 70% of the US population of over 18 women right there.

    Saying someone is a 4 is like saying (assuming normal probability distribution) that something like 60-70% of women in the population are hotter than them. Go to the mall sometime, buddy, 9 out of 10 women you see are going to be fat and old.

    cant take reality can you?, none are really hot or even acceptable. but this goofy site is filled with low standards omegas and I lurk and laugh at all this mental masturbation . you all crack me up

    especially the pleabs that think these girls are above a 5

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  206. bint = girl
    walad = boy

    koies, okhty. don’t be too demanding of the abu of your samaka.

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  207. Girl #1: “I’d rather ride trains than talk to you.”

    Girl #2: “Your B cups are a pale shadow of a real woman’s D cups.”

    Girl #3: “There’s a nerdy kid waiting for you online.”

    Girl #4: “You break cameras, spawn of Satan.”

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  208. on July 30, 2009 at 10:38 pm sixtypoundhound

    Hmm…trick question gentleman…my vote is: no neg needed if you had taken the picture correctly.

    Target is the Blonde, who is a fine looking girl regardless of what you wanna-be players think. Nice Body, interesting smile (clearly happy to be there but not over the top unlike the one on the right).

    Asian Chick is trouble – clearly not in the right mood.

    D-Bag just got frozen out – not a threat, unless you want to make him a prop (which may score points with the blonde).

    So…opening move (during picture).

    (peers in lens) – Opps, can’t have you two standing together with the matching white shirts, you’ll look like a J. Crew Commercial (points to blond) Why don’t you move over to the right?

    Now…I’ve just done three useful things:

    a) Moved my target to the side of the group, where I can approach her later. Also, for that matter, I’ve just asserted some light dominance over her… She’s also now next to the member of the group who is most eager to meet people (smiley, the insecure one) which gives me a fallback opener.

    b) Moved my target away from Asian girl and placed a chick in between here (a slightly more gutsy version that probably won’t work would be to have both white shirts got to the outside – puts two chicks between target & cockblock)…

    c) While I’m doing this I watch D-bag..his reaction to my moving the blonde will drive my reaction to him. If no reaction, ignore – he’s either a bystander or out of the game. If he does respond…the fun starts:

    “Ops…you’re also in the picture? You’re too tall – kneel down in front of the girls and I’ll take a picture of the group of you” (points at middle two – now the Asian and the yellow dress) “There..that should look nice”

    Either way..continue on:

    “Ok…funny faces time” See what the blond does and make a comment or give direction (move closer)…

    And if D-bag is in the game or being an ass…have one of the other three girls strike a triumphant pose with their hand on his head (or some other suitably submissive posture). If you can pull this off, it’s fucking fun (manipulate the situation so beta boy is placed in a submissive position while your target watches). Asian girl is ripe for teasing too.

    Hand the camera to the asian girl and for the next move, do either A, B, or C below:

    A – If you learned anything about the blonde in the last 2 minutes, turn to her and use that as an opener. Keep it at light teasing – you should already have some rapport and you can build from there once she’s talking.

    B – If you stepped on the D-bag in the last 2 minutes, be the bigger man and help him up…welcoming him back to the group.

    C – If all of the above played out and you got nothing useful (shame on you), use a situation-appropriate pleasantry to start talking with Smiley (what are you guys here for, do today, celebrating, who do you know here, etc) and draw your target into the conversation. Once she’s talking with you, engage in light teasing.

    There’s enough interest here that you don’t need the heavy artillery…actually, the blonde probably gets enough attention that “anti-game” game will work better than a sharp neg.

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  209. All this heavy artillery on the betaboy. If they don’t like him, good riddance. But if they like him (LJBF, brother or boyfriend of one of them) they’ll probably think you are a douche for fucking with him.

    He also could be more alpha than he looks. Unlikely, based on what I see, but I’ve seen dorky/weak-looking guys who catapult to alphahood once they open their mouths with a clear, strong, dominant voice. Rare, but it happens.

    That’s why my approach was to cultivate him, not fuck with him. Unless he shows surprising alphatude + antagonism, in which case it’s artillery time.

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  210. Think about it. Say, MandyXD, Aeoefe, and Bhetti go out to a club and bring David Alexander along. Some player comes up, and starts abusing David. Chances are, the girls will sour on the PUA for being a dick.

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  211. Is that why non-date wants me to go to the club with her? To be a filter for douchebags?

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  212. PA–

    Hey, it’s fun. And exotic to me. And enticing. I do like the look of Mediterranean girls — Italian and Arab girls. Wait… that’s just what I’ve gotten myself. Well, and then there’s …

    She corrected Maurice once when he used walad with rajul. Man. Or strong man.

    She usually calls me Ameeri, if you must know.

    Bint does mean girl but with the favor of daughter. As well in a London slang context it might mean “loose girl” or “sexy bitch”. Wishful thinking basically.

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  213. Thanks Tommy!

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  214. What does “ameeri” mean?

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  215. DA – I don’t think she’s that machiavellan. Maybe she just likes you.

    Doug – good stuff! I started learning Arabic writing at one point but only remember the letter “A” and its pronounciation variant, letter “A” with that 2-looking thing over it.

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  216. Maybe she just likes you.

    That’s “unpossible”. I really suspect that she’s moved on given how we spend considerably less time together compared to last summer.

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  217. S.

    What does “ameeri” mean?

    Emir. Or prince.

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  218. Roissy’s post: “You may have to defuse the presence of the d-bag first.”
    === Wear these
    http://www.boingboing.net/2009/04/17/gorilla-viewing-glas.html

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  219. Sigh forgot the end tag, sorry.

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  220. GB: I don’t think he sleeps.

    Apparently you are saying there must still be hunger though. That Doug may be needing some extramarital action (and/or polygamous action if he wants multiple LTRs).

    Anyway, are you a girl? Are you gay? What’re your qualifications for evaluating Epoxy’s hotness, besides saying he’s beta? Any evidence I can think of to base this off is tenuous?

    He’s hot. Sexual. Sometimes dark. Witty and so fun. Intelligent (probably doing something w/ok money). Looks like Adrian Paul. Perfect foil and compliment to LILGRL. Great chemistry. Also just on the right edge of “settling down” but lots of conditions. Perfect-o!

    maurice: kwayes, bro! You’re studying Egyptian accent, I think. Understandable in most places including Gulf. Can’t remember your exact destination.

    Khali el samaka fi salaatek. Allah rahem.

    maurice/doug:
    I didn’t mean to ask for more (I’d love more but that’s greeeedy 😦 ), just wanted to state that the majority of qalbi’s online time usually isn’t flirting. My greed-tinted glasses may be biased.

    [S: qalbi = my heart. Arabs can get away with cheese b/c common usage in a lot of countries. Have heard incidents in which they call absolute strangers my life and such and it’s not taken as flirting.]

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  221. doug1

    You’re both sound like you’re from serious hunger and are of course completely nuts. LILGRL and Expoxy are a very hot couple.

    Nah, man. I’m not hating. Good for lilgrl – snagging a good looking guy like epoxy to be temporarily in love with her.

    Every couple could learn a thing from these two – if deluding yourself that you’re (or your gf, in epoxy’s case) much hotter than pictorial proof all over the internet clearly refutes makes you happy, more power to you.

    I just felt super embarrassed for them reading their comments above. If these girls are <6s, what does that make lilgrl facially (I'll be the first to admit lilgrl has a banging body)? 4? That's all I'm saying.

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  222. I don’t know PA. Odds are that even if the girls like their LJBF pal or what have you, they’ll get hot with another guy projecting dominance over him.

    It will vary from girl to girl. But there’s nothing women like more than a guy showing dominance over another guy, within social context. Which means not picking a fight with the guy in that social setting, but making him look stupid and submissive — odds are that most of the women there will find it hot. Particularly if they like the guy.

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  223. Whiskey — abuse a waiter, and you will have no sex that night.

    Chicks get wet when you slay bulls, not kick puppies.

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  224. PA:

    Think about it. Say, MandyXD, Aeoefe, and Bhetti go out to a club and bring David Alexander along. Some player comes up, and starts abusing David. Chances are, the girls will sour on the PUA for being a dick.

    Given Mandy’s mood lately, she may join right in with the abuse.

    I may too depending on how irritating DA’s been. [Probably not if he’s talkin’ the way he is these days. I mean, look at those negs?? Spawn of Satan! Lol!]

    I expect aoefe would always sour.

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  225. on July 30, 2009 at 11:24 pm gauisuticensis

    Since the target is the Blond to the left, I’d say something to the group like, “Sure, I”d love to take your pictures. You girls are looking cute today.” and then turn to her, and say with a little smirk, something liltingly like, “I see Ms. Thing over here also clearly came to the club dressed to kill.” Hopefully that should qualify the target, by uplifting her friends and slightly diminishing her.

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  226. Bhetti, are you trying to say that David gets irritating sometimes? I don’t believe you.

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  227. Odds are that even if the girls like their LJBF pal or what have you, they’ll get hot with another guy projecting dominance over him.

    Yes. To clarify, you should always project dominance, but this dominance should be done with a soft touch, not heavy-handedly if they like him + he’s not AMOGing you.

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  228. @ DonAil

    Nah, man. I’m not hating. Good for lilgrl – snagging a good looking guy like epoxy to be temporarily in love with her.

    Heh. Before I put pictures up, I joke with Epoxy:

    “I’m going to post something on LILGRL…Roissy commenters are going to fall in love with you again. Especially the guys.”

    SRSLY, boys…

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  229. on July 30, 2009 at 11:34 pm gauisuticensis

    Anyone also calling the blonde anything less than a 7 is a fucking idiot and deserves to be shot on the street for such stupidity.

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  230. @Bhetti:

    It depends, if people are ganging up on DA, I WON’T join in.

    I usually avoid harassing DA because he is a typical object of harassment on this blog and that’s not cool. I don’t kick the people that get kicked 50x a day.

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  231. @Lilgrl

    No hard feelings lilgrl. He’s a fine looking young man.

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  232. I just recalled an example of soft-touch dominance. A few days at work I was chatting with an older guy and a sizzling little intern. (Thanks, HR for continuing your outstanding work!)

    The older guy is a very smart and respected man in the industry, but also something of a teddy bear with a mild physical ailment. The younger women like him (he is very smart, like I said, teddybearish, and is a heart-on-a-sleeve type, and knows how to relate to younger people.)

    So the three of us are chatting, and I DO in fact do a mild dominance thing… it’s hard to describe here, but basically I was being a brash but respectful young lad to his “old uncle.” But if I was being heavy-handed about it (say, this was not at work), then I would have just come off as a frustrated dick.

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  233. Anyone also calling the blonde anything less than a 7 is a fucking idiot and deserves to be shot on the street for such stupidity.

    In my country, she’s a 6.

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  234. @ DonAil

    Word.

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  235. The blonde isn’t attractive; she blurs together with all the other blondes you see in the US.

    The blondes that do stand out from the others, IMO, are 8’s at least, quite possibly 9 and 10’s.

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  236. Agreed mandy. The Blonde isn’t anything special, but she has nice tits. Terrible complexion though, and very plain features.

    Facially these girls are

    7, 5.5, 4.5, 8.

    The brunettes on both ends would also bump up their ratings a bit wearing their hair out.

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  237. @el chief… the ‘did you ride your bike to the bar one’ is damn hilarious

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  238. but she has nice tits

    Athena has better tits.

    Facially these girls are

    …all 5s.

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  239. ROISSY…REALLY: you are a leading blogger/author of our time on the emasculation of American men and the doom brought on by feminism.

    BUT…YOU SUCK AT BLOGGING ABOUT GAME! Note, I did not say you suck at game. I’m sure you are awesome. But your blogs on game ARE HORRIBLE. Stick to the social commentary. It is what has gotten you this far. It is what will sell your book!!! I look forward to your book…sociology profs will use it years from now!!!

    But your game posts…suck.

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  240. @Donail:

    I agree with you on those ratings, except maybe a bit too harsh on the Asian girl.

    The one on the far right is cute as a button, though I don’t know how much she’d benefit from wearing her hair down. The one on the far left would definitely become an 8 with her hair down.

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  241. And…if you really want an answer here it is:

    The D-bag does not matter at all. Look at his position in the photo. Ignore him. No need to nuetralize.

    As for the girls. You will need 2 to 3 minutes of stupid bar bullshit to open. Best to have a wing open. Don’t pay too much attention in these 2 to 3 minutes. IE, ask a question and then turn an watch the TV for a second or two.

    Finally, when it is clear you are talking to one and the others have sort of spaced out…neg your target (NOT THE ONE YOU WERE TALKING TO, TO BEGIN WITH).

    Lets say you are negging blondie (hotest IMO)” you work for Wicker, right?” *turn away and watch TV as she says No” * , * Say something dumb to friend of hers*, back to her: “I swear I saw you at COWPIE, you have a sister right?” “Shit I’m kind of buzzed, but really you southern girls are great.” “Lets take a shot.”

    And from there you are golden. End of thread. But thanks for playing.

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  242. And by the way…As I am doing the above, loud and forceful after 14 bourbon and gingers, you are trying a “mystery palm reading game” or “the ring trick” or “asking about a secret garden”

    …and loud drunken ex southern frat boy blows you out.

    Feminism is a danger. We need to stay masculine. Negs work like a charm. BUT COME ON!!!! Stop turning dudes into pathetic he/she Mystery VH1 robots.

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  243. Pretty sure the guy in the picture is Roissy.

    Doesnt he look like he is about to ask you about his friend buying a pet wolverine or whether khaki is color or fabric?

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  244. So I’m a kitty now?

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  245. on July 31, 2009 at 12:34 am Douche Bags...

    Negging a 4 set in a bar in DC will not work right away. You’d need to do some sort of intro/DHV first. Please dont try talking to this bunch about their clothes or earrings being shit…why would they listen? They can turn their backs and return to endless girl BS and not worry about your neg.

    A neg only works once you have their basic attention/respect for you. Jesus you all are idiots sometimes.

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  246. When you’re done taking the photo, press the button to look at the stored photos. Say, “Hey, this is a good photo.” (click) “Wow, so’s that one!” (click) “Wow, looks like she’s enjoying that.” (click) Keep it up, implying someone left some naughty photos on their camera, until they are hitting you and demanding their camera back. When they object, say, “No no, it’s cool, I have a similar collection.”

    Points:
    This group is not hot enough that they require a really strong neg. The girl in the red is the most feminine and thus would be my target, the blond is just another DC-skintern. Ideally one would maintain the naughty girl frame and tel a story about dating a photographer or model or some such.

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  247. PS.

    The guy is an orbiter and doesn’t require much attention and/or AMOGing. You could even subtly tease the girls about his presence. They know he’s low value.

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  248. on July 31, 2009 at 12:45 am Willard Libby

    Hmmm

    Pretty sure the guy in the picture is Roissy.

    No it isn’t. I’ve seen roissy and that’s not him.

    Mandy! XD

    So I’m a kitty now?

    Would you rather be a dog?

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  249. @WillardLibby:

    I was kind of hoping I would be a human, but ok.

    Meow.

    Meow.

    This could take some getting used to.

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  250. on July 31, 2009 at 1:02 am Willard Libby

    Mandy! XD

    @WillardLibby:

    I was kind of hoping I would be a human, but ok.

    You’re being overly ambitious.

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  251. Honestly I think the guy may be gay, look at the earring in his left ear… but I digress. Also neg isn’t usually my style but what the hey, I’m gonna win this shit 🙂 SO I AM GONNA NEG EVERYONE … since you asked … but in a way that’s almost pushing it, enough for them to chase me but not enough to kill it

    So you’ve just taken a picture and gave back the camera.

    YOU: “You, are, the second group who’s asked me to take a picture tonight!”
    THEM: …
    YOU: “Yeah the other one was some lovely ladies I’m here with tonight.” (gesturing)
    THEM: …
    YOU: “We work together. And hey, is this your boyfriend? What’s up man. Hey, give me the camera– … why is he standing all the way in the back? You look like you’re afraid to be in the picture. (to them:) Is this how you treat your guys?”
    THEM: !
    YOU: “This is just a warm up photo. OK. Do you know who I am? The night is young! Guess what –”
    THEM: “what”
    YOU: “You ladies are beautiful tonight. (look at target) Except you, you’re not my type (look at the others, until they react AH!) … but, but. that’s because I had a thing with a girl very much like her before. She used to take lots of pictures. (look at her meaningfully)”
    THEM: …
    YOU: Alright, let’s take a good one. (step away) … come over here (motion them over) etc.

    enough negs? Transition to “how do you yall know each other” etc.

    there, negged everyone especially the target 🙂

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  252. @WillardLibby:

    Oh, I see.

    So now I can sit in your lap and scratch you randomly and it’s ok because I’m a cat, right?

    What if I bite you?

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  253. @epicloz. Thanks man.

    Funny story, I actually banged a girl that took her bike to the bar. My local had a “wine rave” event, $20 all you can drink wine tasting event, a.k.a. a shitstorm. The girls got dolled up, the guys went slacker. There were more women than men, so easy pickins. I met this cutie, invited her home, but she brought her bike. So I cabbed it home, watched some TV, and she showed up, after riding her bike about 2 kilometres. She was a squirter.

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  254. International PUA of the month!

    Here’s a story about a Saudi Arabian man who has been forced into hiding after detailing his PA adventures and techniques on Saudi Television.

    ****************************

    …Mazen Abdul-Jawad said sex became an important part of his life at age 14, following his first sexual encounter with a neighbor.

    He demonstrated how he would cruise girls in his red convertible or in supermarkets, often making use of Bluetooth mobile phone technology, and produced sex toys and lubricants from his bedroom cupboard.

    “While I’m driving I turn my Bluetooth on. It has the description of my car and my mobile number… I get calls from girls… and in some cases I call back and she goes out with me,” he says in the Youtube clips.

    [Saudi betas respond:]…”He confessed before the world that he committed fornication and continues to fornicate,” an anonymous user wrote on al-Medina newspaper’s web forum this week.

    “It is for that reason that he deserves to be stoned to death, as Islamic law stipulates.”

    Hashim Adnan, a 24-year-old from Jeddah, said Abdul-Jawad deserved at least some form of censure. “He must be punished and become an example for all. We Saudis are not used to and will not accept such behavior,” he said.

    ***********************

    http://www.reuters.com/articlePrint?articleId=USTRE56T4PK20090730

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  255. on July 31, 2009 at 1:53 am gunslingergregi

    I’d say fist chick to get outside to my lamb gets to go for a ride.

    When I have one of course.

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  256. i’m siding with PA (although i’m overlooking the obvious analogy that waiters are puppies).

    picking on someone of lesser social status merely wastes finite social capital. pretend an actual AMOG shows up and you try the same shit with him. there’s a pattern forming that you automatically get on the offensive when another guy shows up…this is bad form.

    my Fonzie bear reference earlier about the other guy was a joke; if he’s with them and not some orbiter you should merely pretend like the guy doesn’t exist. no disarming needed.

    but if he’s a creeper, throwing out a slight ribbing gives you an in with the group.

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  257. @WillardLibby:

    “The way you disciple a cat is by grabbing them firmly by the back of the neck and talking low and slow to them and watching their body language.”
    At your level of intelligence, talking slowly comes naturally to you.

    Cats don’t know when they are wrong. They just know that you’re their pet, and you’re there to feed them and pet them when and how they want it.

    Anything else and they’ll bite you.

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  258. on July 31, 2009 at 3:02 am gunslingergregi

    Difference between g and pua.

    G does life and woman come to him for validation. They already heard people talking about the dude. He doesn’t need to prove shit they just want to toss him some pussy hoping for a chance at being part of his life.

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  259. MADRAS is right and so is PA….the rest of you guys are delusional. Most of the examples of “game” here are so awful…it’s cringe-inducing. Some other poster earlier called you morons…seems right. The stuff about trying to put down their dorky guy-friend (a desperate beta/poser move) is especially misguided. I’m not sure any of you have ever even tried talking to girls.

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  260. on July 31, 2009 at 4:11 am Steve Johnson

    LILGRL:

    “I have little to add, being a girl, but are you really calling any of these girls >6? SRSLY.”

    Whatever the least of these girls rates, it’s about 2 points above you.

    Glass houses… stones…

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  261. wrt the underclasses

    -never, I mean never look the “upper”under-classes (waiters, for example) in the eyes. It is a sign of equality, and part of being upper class is inequality. The only members of the “upper” under-class that should be looked in the eye are sommeliers and female hostesses, the latter exclusively for being female, without any consideration for them being hot or not

    – You should interact with the “lower”-under classes (example: guys who sell beer in the street, guys who sell tickets above the price outside shows and games), though always avoiding eye contact or any intimacy. The ability to talk to them in a cocky way is part of the “grace under pressure” that girls value so much.

    – it is not that you should be rude with them. It is simply to recognyze inequality and act accordingly, always saying “please”, “you welcome” and so on. Many people would instinctively grab the menu, look at it and while still loking at it ask the waiter, without even looking at him, what does he suggest and accept the suggestion still without looking.

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  262. about the girls, in line with my idea that discussing game in the internet is itself anti-game

    most guys would freak out once they were unexpectedly asked by a random group of girls to take their picture. you don´t have a few minutes to think. they will probably ask you from behind, or from your side.

    the correct frame is to smile, look at each girl to decide which one you are interested in (or the one who looks easier; in this case the cute one is on the left while the easy one is on the right) and slowly proceed to take the picture. You can say anything you want.

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  263. on July 31, 2009 at 7:33 am HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS YO

    I feel like I can never make negs based solely on appearances, it’s as if I need more information before I can really formulate any well placed negs. Usually once I’ve engaged the group and just started a conversation and a little more info, I can barely stop myself from negging after they give me tons of fodder with whatever retarded bullshit they’re saying. I’ve always been really bad at coming up with creative negs that aren’t going to be taken the wrong way by strangers based solely on appearance.

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  264. The Asian girl would boost her rating if she’d smile.

    Willard was never in the military.

    Obsidian is wasting his time on the “White this” crowd. If the only thing you’ve got going for you is the skin you happened to be born with, you’ve got nothing.

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  265. that saudi alpha has balls – living the PUA lifestyle in a country where non-marital sex is punishable by death or castration. on the other hand – if all you can see of a woman is a burqa and some bluetooth-relayed text messages – kinda changes the rules of the chase. how do you know if you’re getting an ugly or fattie?

    definitely a candidate for the next “alpha cage match” …

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  266. on July 31, 2009 at 8:44 am Coach McGroin

    “Cats don’t know when they are wrong. They just know that you’re their pet, and you’re there to feed them and pet them when and how they want it.

    Anything else and they’ll bite you.”

    Or rub their ass up against you……..

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  267. Lol at some of you douchebags calling these girls ugly.

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  268. MarkD,
    Just saw your comment, not sure I follow. Please explain?

    Thanks.

    O

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  269. The don’t kick the waiter thread suddenly reminded me of one of my last dates with this guy. We met at a small dive bar and I got there first, sitting by myself, and the bartender was friendly, but not too friendly. When the guy got there he was rude to the bartender and I remember being so turned off. It was just so unnecessary and a little insecure.

    Oh and lurker, lately your comments are killing me. Hysterical.

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  270. @ Roissy:

    Can you add me to your blogroll?

    OneSTDV.blogspot.com

    I’m currently listed on HalfSigma, Mangan’s, Audacious Epigone, and whiskey’s-place, amongst others.

    [editor: sure. i’m gonna do a big blog upgrade soon, and i’ll be adding new links then.]

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  271. I’m not feeling this “looking down” to people who are actually in a position to KILL YOU at all. Wait-staff, other folks in service professions, etc. And even if the inherent danger was removed, what is the point? Just so you can get laid? Ridiculous.

    I can’t recall the last time I’ve been out & had a male waiter, but even if I did I would still treat him w/the basic respect due a human being-theres no need to do the kind of things Gig was talking about, w/all due respect. If I’m truly an Alpha, I have no problem treating a person like a person. And if the Woman I’m with is truly a Lady, she has no need to see me run what is in essence, Marie Antoinette Game.

    I mean, Chuck is a waiter for God’s sake-you mean to tell me it’s cool to treat him like that? *smh*

    Which brings me to the next point. Fellas, w/all due respect, its time you really give some thought as to where you’re going to meet and greet these gals; because, if, and I’m talking to Whiskey and Gig now-if the gals you speak of act and respond to the kinds of things you’re talking about, its time to seriously move on.

    There’s just something wrong in the kind of stuff that’s being said here on that front. At least it is for me.

    Again, like I’ve said before: Game gives Men options, choices. You don’t have to pursue Women who by all accounts seem to have real problems. I certainly don’t.

    O

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  272. Many chicks have told me that as waitresses, they had MANY ways to punish a rude customer.

    Aside from being uncool, it is just plain stupid to antagonize someone who will be alone with your food.

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  273. I don’t knwo, cuntrag. Did you miss out on the fellate-the-Nobama-doll-for-fat-sluts party? I know how you get cranky when you miss it.

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  274. on July 31, 2009 at 10:19 am Comment_Whatever

    Wouldn’t insult the waiter till he proved he was a punk.

    Don’t neg far left. She has put more effort into her version of ‘dressing up’ than any of her white shirt no makeup friends, and is probably way more sensitive about her looks.

    Far right seems happy, no need to upset her.

    So that leaves the middle to.

    The blond girl looks like she wants the neg. Because of the greater effort shawl girl put into dressing up, you can either neg blondie by complementing shawl girl on some part of her appearance(I think she’d like a straight up compliment herself) or you can neg blondie about how she is ‘confident enough to know she looks good even without a dress or any makeup’.

    Still working on how to phrase either.

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  275. Tarl,
    A rare area of agreement we seem to have on this point. Treating wait-staff and the like badly, just is not cool.

    And so uncivilized.

    Tru dat.

    O

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  276. sometimes I neg girls by stirring their drinks with my dick.

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  277. how come there ain’t no African-American Queens in the pic?

    racism?
    skewed Western standards of feminine beauty?

    we shall see

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  278. Obsidian – then you must be the first Brotha I know who leaves a tip!

    Lurker — funniest comment ever!

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  279. @sixtypoundhound

    Gold.

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  280. I didn’t read all the responses, but kinda surprised at two things:

    1) Making racial jokes/negs. to complete strangers. Do you guys really do this regularly?

    Even well-intentioned or joking racial comments from a random stranger can kill the mood, make things uncomfortable. If you don’t know a guy is cool and not racist, how do you know he isn’t some secret KKK guy with the racial comments?

    Example of what a guy said when I was out with a diverse set of friends: “I should open a strip club with all of you girls and call it Different Beauties of the World, you’d be Jasmine, you’d be Natasha, you’d be Maria, you’d be Ebony.” Now that I think about it, that was kinda cute… but it was uncomfortable coming from a typical looking white guy, maybe.

    2) Is the *only* way to hit on a group of girls to neg. them?

    I mean there’s got to be more ways…. That’s all I’ve seen in the coments except Roosh, the Grand Master, he targeted the guy with the girls. Sorry if I missed someone else’s response but I was like wow, all negs. and only negs?

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  281. OOPS. The title of this post is “A Test of Your Negs” huh. LOL. OK, nevermind. Looks like Roissy wanted everyone to focus on that.

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  282. but it was uncomfortable coming from a typical looking white guy, maybe.

    But if it was coming from a non-typical white guy or a non-white guy, it would be OK?

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  283. lovelysexybeauty, if a chick can’t handle racial humor—meaning she’s a stick-up-the-ass SWPLer—then the neg serves to show you she ain’t worth your time if she starts lecturing about it. She’s most definitely a worthless feminist.

    I once had some chick get all up in my face when I called some dude a “wigger.” She thought that was racially offensive. She demanded an apology, and I laughed at her. Found some other chick, told her about feminazi’s uptightness, and we both laughed. And got second chick’s number.

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  284. White chicks who diss white guys are gross.

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  285. Lurker

    sometimes I neg girls by stirring their drinks with my dick.

    I carry a picture of a few of the hotter ex-girlfriends in my wallet, along with a picture of the rocketride. They flap around as I pay for things, and I may need to lay my wallet down for some reason.

    (not really, but it was suggested to me to keep a picture of my dick in my wallet, as it’s more handsome than my face)

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  286. PA, you know the answer to that. White straight males can never be anythign but obsequious little followers for SWPLers like lovelysexy. She probably still thinks the Duke lacrosse kids did it.

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  287. Xsplat:

    “I carry a picture of a few of the hotter ex-girlfriends in my wallet, ”

    —Who are you, George Costanza (wait, no, he had a picture of Jerry’s ex-gf in the wallet)?

    Why is every thread turning into Seinfeld?

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  288. Whiskey just called me. He sounded groggy. California time.

    He said that white women HATE HATE HATE white men.

    (You know what’s odd? I coulda sworn that I heard a just-awoken sultry female voice in the in the background saying “who is it babe, is it that bitch Scarlett calling you again?”)

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  289. Also I feel the need to point out

    NEGS, in their most effective use, are NOT supposed to be insults or even backhanded compliments. They are supposed to simply BRIEFLY DISQUALIFY YOURSELF FROM BEING CONSIDERED A POTENTIAL SUITOR.

    For example:
    “wow, all the races are here” and “Do you think wifebeaters should drink…?” and “oriental girl, open your eyes” are PROVOCATIONS not negs.

    WHEREAS things like “Did anyone see Bruno? I am cheating on him right now” and “My girlfriend would love you guys” ARE NEGS!!

    Negs don’t have to be insults, but they originated that way. Negs were originally called “negative hits” by Mystery (as opposed to positive hits like compliments, anything that “hits” is a hit). Overanalysis of negs can cause many gys who start out as “PUA”s to act even more weird!

    Once Mystery realized it though, he started defining negs the in the most EFFECTIVE WAY. Their only purpose is to DISQUALIFY YOURSELF FROM BEING *CONSIDERED* A POTENTIAL SUITOR so that you can win people over on a totally different topic (such as google earth, magic, and ruminating on whether fish cough, in his case :P)

    ANYWAY BOTTOM LINE, NEGS HAVE TWO MAIN CONSEQUENCES:

    1) disarm the obstacles

    This way, no one thinks you’re after the girl. (At least not before they read The Game). That way you can win over the group. The girl is IN the group, not going anywhere.

    2) be a challenge to the girl

    Setting you apart from every other guy, who would normally hit on her in front of her friends. Not only that but you give her an active challenge by disqualifying her every time she tries to get your attention, and women love challenge.

    Eventually you “give in” and isolate her to “show her something” which everyone allows you to do (especially her) since you’ve been negging her.

    It can be seen as artificial but it works. In the end everything is techniques one way or another.

    SO … STOP AMOGING AND INSULTING PEOPLE THINKING IT’S THE POINT OF A NEG.

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  290. PA,
    Actually, I was always taught to reward good service. When it comes to wait-staff, the appropriate 15% is what I usually aim for, more if the service is exceptional. The Obsidian always tips, be it wait staff, hotel staff, barbers, etc.

    Its the civilized thing to do.

    O

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  291. PA & lurker –

    Mm… thinking over this just briefly, I think it’s all about how the person who’s making the racial comment comes across.

    I’m talking about a complete stranger making a racial comment of course… once I know someone and know he/she is cool, then little racial/diversity jokes are of course OK.

    A non-white guy or a non-typical white guy will automatically seem like he’s open minded and has no issues with diversity. There’s the danger that he seems like he has a fetish though if he seems too focused on the race thing….even as a neg.

    But a guy with an angry look or strange vibe would seem questionable. That’s all… some people can definitely get away with saying racial stuff, but telling an Asian girl to open her eyes or pointing out she’s confident for hanging out with hot white girls is on the path to getting chewed out by the SWPL crowd.

    But… I’ve noticed that people in high school seem even more “over” the race issue, so maybe racial jokes are less of an issue the younger you are.

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  292. Kudos to you then Obsidian.

    My o m e g a friend Ace has a lot of alpha guys hanging with him, including a couple of true alpha black guys: rich, smart, sharp dressed, good looking and athletic.

    (Ace has a great “guy personality” and is always up to doing stuff — dining out, Atlantic City trips, strip clubs & related gemtlemens; services — which makes men seek out his company. Alas this doesn’t transalte into poon-pull; Ace was always LJBF o m e g a with women.)

    Anyway, he complains that when he goes out with the black dudes, they embarass him by never tipping AND making the waiter run circles for them.

    Other people I know who had worked as waiters complain of similar things.

    Another population group that NEVER tips? US Naval Aceadem midshipmen. I used to work in Annapolis restaurants in late 80s. That was my huge problem with those boys.

    Recently chatted with an Annapolis waitress, and — yup — same thing. Mids still don’t tip.

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  293. “A non-white guy or a non-typical white guy will automatically seem like he’s open minded and has no issues with diversity.”
    —lol. SWPLer. Guilty as fuck.

    Go back to worshipping Nobama, bitch.

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  294. @lurker:

    “I don’t knwo, cuntrag. Did you miss out on the fellate-the-Nobama-doll-for-fat-sluts party? I know how you get cranky when you miss it.”

    Yeah, I always hate missing any chances I have to make fun of fat people. Unfortunately they wouldn’t let me in. 😦

    You should’ve gone, maybe they’d let me in if I were with you!

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  295. Oh I saw another interesting thing, about people who doubted the guy is with the girls.

    It’s possible… he could be sort of designated drink buyer and ride of the group. I’ve seen girls do this… *cough cough* (lol). Why bother with expensive taxis, high cover charges and starter food and drinks when there’s a guy who’d be happy to do it? He gets the privilege of hanging out with a bunch of girls and bragging to his friends, I guess.

    If the ride and drinks sponser is really beta, the girls can just straight up and ignore him the rest of the night, just talk to him a little so it’s not so obvious.

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  296. Hahahahhahahahahah at lurker. Incredible hulker more like! 😉 Sorry but your mm… spontaneous rage is legendary.

    Whatever in life has made you unhappy, whether it’s people whose views you disagree with or unfair circumstances, I hope some day you find peace with it. Passion and rage can be used for good or for bad, I hope you choose to use it more often for good.

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  297. Eee I just kinda “mothered” lurker. Gross! My girl game is weak… I better not spent time on these boy websites for a while, I start acting like you guys or something!

    And I’m doing too many off topic posts, sorry blog-owner!

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  298. Lurker – sorry – hate Seinfeld show. Jewish humor is too neurotic for me. Irrelevant to my concerns. Don’t get the reference.

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  299. Jokes about how your mother is controlling? How you worry about what other people are thinking about you? Being caught up in lies?

    Does nothing for me.

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  300. @Greg

    Making it seem obvious what was supposed to be obvious. Thanks for showing the elephant.

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  301. I doubt the guy peering over their shoulders is a part of their group; he would either be taking the picture, or in the center of the huddle. He has the look of some tagalong creep they vaguely know but haven’t managed to shake off yet. I’d say ignore him, addressing him directly will remind the girls that he’s still lurking about and depress the energy of the group.

    Asian’s pasty skin tone, death grip on giant matronly purse and unconvinced smile all signify Mother Hen. Add the muffin top, and all the girls are white girls. Yellow Shirt looks the most playful and willing to go along with any of your shenanigans — look at that big smile and those dimples. She’d be the easiest to build rapport with, but the most difficult to separate from the group, being literally “shielded” from your gaze with Asian’s purse.

    For a moment I thought I recognized the Blonde and Red Nightie, they look exactly like two girls I went to high-school with. Blonde’s smile is less in-the-moment than Yellow Shirt; she is smiling because she looks best with one. When she stops smiling you’ll notice her big nose, flushed (not rosy) cheeks and round face. A purse strap lurks over her left shoulder, further evidence she is not completely concentrated in the moment.

    Big Red is intrigued (arched brows and wide eyes) but also wants to be treated like a woman (closed-lip smile). Since she looks so similar to the girl I knew, I predict she will have the most pleasing face when all four have reverted to their natural, non-smiling faces. Of the four, Red will smile the least but have the most rewarding smile. She put the most effort into dressing up out of the whole group; she is wearing delicate lingerie under a heavier fabric, in keeping with current fashion trends, while maintaining a classic red/black contrast. Status-whoring is countered by a complete lack of jewelry, her tied-back hair and absence of purse (!). This SHOULD be your target if you are any competent judge of female potential.

    The girls have already placed the camera in your hands, so run photographer game. Open with a subtle neg directed towards the whole group while accepting the camera, but keep it simple, stupid. It’s too packed to be overly-obsessive and you don’t want to diminish those gleaming smiles.

    Since my target is Red, I present my shoulder towards her and face the other three when taking the picture, cutting her in half on the edge of the frame. The other girls already consider her the most competition (they are leaning towards each other and away from her); my posture will placate their catty female natures and act as an additional non-verbal neg on the Red. Admit your mistake and take the opportunity to repose the group, laying the most physical contact on Red. Bonus; a bad first shot gives you the liberty to take several more without appearing overtly commandeering.

    IF the creeper is part of the group, he will vocalize his presence after the first few shots. Hand him the camera and nestle yourself in the middle of the group, with a hand at the small of Red’s back. Continue with pick up, treating him like one of the girls instead of another male — thus keeping him part of the group but within the LJBF category.

    It should be noted here that I am female, heterosexual and 20 y/o — I should not have a higher caliber of game than 75% of the commentors.

    [editor: most men have zero seduction skill and most women are not as clear thinking as you.]

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  302. 2 o m e g a alert and their queen feminazi:
    http://www.komonews.com/news/51386562.html

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  303. Cuntrag, you and lovely should hang out, blame people for racism with no proof, tell people who are victims of crimes to just get over it, and cry into your Nobama pillows.

    SWPL bitches who haven’t been slapped enough annoy me.

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  304. “You should’ve gone, maybe they’d let me in if I were with you!”
    –lol cuntrag, We know you’re the president.

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  305. “Whatever in life has made you unhappy, whether it’s people whose views you disagree with or unfair circumstances, I hope some day you find peace with it. Passion and rage can be used for good or for bad, I hope you choose to use it more often for good.”

    —lol, woman. Don’t you just how women always think that a man calling them out on being silly little whores has “psychological issues” that only XX chromosomes can fully see? There’s no unfairness, tis all issues. lol.

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  306. Looks like Adrian Paul.

    And there’s nothing wrong with that. Many of the posters here only wish they were that attractive.

    And all those girls are, at worst, 6s or 7s. Anyone grading them worse is a moron. Or a shrew.

    Finally, be gracious to waitstaff, douchebags. Graciousness is alpha.

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  307. @lurker:

    “Cuntrag, you and lovely should hang out, blame people for racism with no proof, tell people who are victims of crimes to just get over it, and cry into your Nobama pillows.

    SWPL bitches who haven’t been slapped enough annoy me.”
    I love how you try to take the moral highground while you advocate assault.

    All part of your morals system, right? Your values?

    And, lurker, it doesn’t take two X chromosomes to see that you’re insane. All it takes is two eyes.

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  308. gig:

    i’m not going to get all bent out of shape just because i’m a waiter, just like i wouldn’t actually tell that asian chick to open her eyes after i snapped her picture, i’m not going to defend the food service demographic just because i’m a waiter.

    but i’ll just say this…waiters and bartenders probably get more quality bangs than many guys in typically “alpha” jobs. not only do we have more flexible work schedules, but we’ve had plenty of practice developing verbal interaction and body language cues. since we don’t possess the normal benefits of job status and income status, we have to develop other indicators of status, and Game is one of them.

    these settings also throw men and women into close contact on a regular basis. social dominance dynamics are at play within each restaurant. a male server doesn’t have to battle every other alpha type in the world, just within his restaurant. and since most hot chicks, at some point in life or another, wait tables or work the bar, it serves us male servers well.

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  309. Is this the Adrian Paul the commenter quoted by anonymous mentioned?

    He’s good looking.

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  310. “I love how you try to take the moral highground while you advocate assault.”

    –and I love how your wee little female mind works: violence is always bad!

    Let the criminals go free, evil pigs!

    Henry Louis Gates was racially profiled!

    Newsflash, cuntrag: violence is a good thing, and preferable to pacifism, when it accomplishes a good–like shutting whiny, self-indulgent, self-centered illogical bitches like you up.

    “And, lurker, it doesn’t take two X chromosomes to see that you’re insane.”
    —sine your wee little female mind is incapable of logic, you’re right.

    “All it takes is two eyes.”
    —said the girl who, again, 1) thinks victims of crims should get voer it; 2) Nobama is a hero and 3) people who didn’t vote for Nobama did so based on racism, always; and 4) people who make racist jokes are always racist.

    Female logic on display, everyone!

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  311. Lady Cumstaine:

    “I don’t go to bars….they’re trashy.”

    —rofl lmao.

    Pot. Kettle.

    Takes. One. to know…..

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  312. “Second, I don’t go to bars….they’re trashy.”

    You………worked at a….motherfucking strip club.

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  313. Chuck, c’mon man, talking logic to a woman is like talking Shakespeare to a monkey.

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  314. I like vainofstars’ reply. That would work. Want to go girl hunting together? 😛

    By the way what are your thoughts on men having game of the type PUAs are describing… versus actual value (height muscular build money intelligence personality social circle wit and charm) with zero competence at manipulation and zero effort to get girls through cold approach pickup attempts?

    Also what do you think about a guy who has all the above “checklist” characteristics but misses an elusive “bad boy” quality that gives him an air of recklessness and assholeness? Basically “the perfect guy” but he is entirely considerate and reasonable, with a conspicuous lack of “darker” qualities toward other men and women, taking what he wants, self absorbtion, independence basically the “dark triad”? I just feel that in their 20s, girls feel they need a bit of asahole, to have something to work on

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  315. @lurker:

    “and I love how your wee little female mind works: violence is always bad!”
    I didn’t say violence was always bad. But slapping someone around because you disagree with them is WRONG. If someone attacks you, or is threatening you or your family, then by all means, go ahead. If someone’s breaking an entering in your house, you should have a right to go after them.

    But slapping someone around because,”WAAA YOU DUN LIKE ME SO I’M GOING TO PAINT YOU AS AN IDIOT BCUZ I’M 4 AND STOOOPID” is, well, immature.

    “Let the criminals go free, evil pigs!”
    Why would you want the criminals to go free? Oh yes, I know, because you are one, right?

    Enjoy rotting in jail, lurker. There are no hookers for you to rawdog and catch HIV from there. Just lots of hairy fat men named Tiny, who I’m sure would love to have you as their girlfriend.

    “Henry Louis Gates was racially profiled!”
    Did I ever say this? Let me think…no.

    “Newsflash, cuntrag: violence is a good thing, and preferable to pacifism, when it accomplishes a good–like shutting whiny, self-indulgent, self-centered illogical bitches like you up.”
    Newsflash, lurker, you hit me, you die. Violence doesn’t shut me up, it only gives me an excuse to attack you.

    “you’re right.”
    Thank you for realizing the truth of the scenario.

    “people who didn’t vote for Nobama did so based on racism, always; and 4) people who make racist jokes are always racist.”

    I said that a factor of Cubans not voting for Obama had to do with racism. White Cubans tend to not like Blacks. That’s kind of how it goes.

    Second, the anecdote of the racist had to do with someone I knew who repeatedly referred to one of my friends as ” the dumb nigger” and would make lynching references. I’m all down for some race jokes here and there, but that was just hatespeech. Not jokespeech.

    And I don’t think Nobama is a hero anymore than McCain was. They were both human politicians with differing beliefs. At the end, they’re all the same.

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  316. How I would bang each of these girls:

    Red Shirt – savor the sweetess. Slow, gentle, enjoying the fresh femininity of the way her neck smells

    Blondie – epic slapping around; just short of her calling the cops on me; instead she becomes my stalker

    Asain Chick – lackadaisical; she’s not ugly, but she looks boring

    Romanian Pixie – a spirited, giggly roll between the sheets, with my spending hours adoring her little titties and other areas in so many different ways

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  317. The dude is obviously a photobomber. No one in the group of girls is making contact with him. Do not waste your time with him.
    I would tell the girl on the left that it is cool to be casual but wearing lingerie in a public place could attract the wrong kind of guys.

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  318. Obsidian – then you must be the first Brotha I know who leaves a tip!

    In an attempt to destroy the black people don’t tip myth, I tend to leave a 20% tip…

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  319. Obsidian,

    You and I agree more than you might think. I just tend not to say anything unless I disagree. =)

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  320. PA

    How I would bang each of these girls:

    What could a guy add?

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  321. How I would bang each of these girls:

    Dude, you have game. Why would you bang such lowly women?

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  322. Ah, cuntrag:

    “I didn’t say violence was always bad. ”
    —You just implied that advocating assaulting someone=morally depraved. But that’s not the same as claiming violence=evil, oh noes.

    “But slapping someone around because you disagree with them is WRONG.”
    —you’re not being slapped around because of intellectual disagreement, dumbass. you’re being slapped around because you deserve it, you entitled bitch.

    “If someone attacks you, or is threatening you or your family, then by all means, go ahead. “If someone’s breaking an entering in your house, you should have a right to go after them. ”
    —except if they steal your house and land. Then JUST GET OVER IT–right, Mandy?

    “Why would you want the criminals to go free?”
    —Your the one who loves Castro, bitch, not me.

    “Enjoy rotting in jail, lurker.”
    –given how feminazis love hate crime legislation and thought police, it probably won’t be too long.

    “There are no hookers for you to rawdog and catch HIV from there. ”
    –wait, you’re not going to be there?

    “Just lots of hairy fat men named Tiny, who I’m sure would love to have you as their girlfriend.”
    —love how feminazis have their rape-homo fanatasies about prison.

    “Did I ever say this? Let me think…no.”
    –you just think anyone who didn’t vote for NotMyPresident is a racist.

    “Newsflash, lurker, you hit me, you die. Violence doesn’t shut me up, it only gives me an excuse to attack you.”
    —lol, you’ll just curl up in the corner and cry like the little bitch you are.

    “I said that a factor of Cubans not voting for Obama had to do with racism.”
    —-based of course on your profound psychological insights and statistically based evidence….oh, wait, nope, just your “feeling” and your ignoring the Occam’s razor answer: they’re Republican, he’s a commie. Gotta love feminist “logic.”

    “White Cubans tend to not like Blacks.”
    —and right wingers don’t vote for left-wing Castro lovers, dingbat.

    “Second, the anecdote of the racist had to do with someone I knew who repeatedly referred to one of my friends as ” the dumb nigger” and would make lynching references.”
    — one guy=community, according to Mandy.

    ” I’m all down for some race jokes here and there, but that was just hatespeech.”
    –ah, the SWPL language: hatespeech! Burn him, he’s a witch! hatecrime, Newthink, blackwhite!

    “And I don’t think Nobama is a hero anymore than McCain was.”
    —so a man who spent 5 years in prison and more fighting for his country and never cracked is somehow not a hero, because a community organizing pussy who’s never done anything isn’t?

    Nice logic, feminazi.

    “They were both human politicians with differing beliefs. At the end, they’re all the same.”
    –ah, the sad attempt by a woman when she’s lost an argument and made to look foolish: well, we just ahve to agree to disagree, because both sides are the same.

    No, cuntrag. You are wrong.

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  323. And Mandy…where’s your proof what White cubans hate blacks? I turn it around: black cubans hate whites, because the blacks are racists. Prove me wrong, dingbat; oh wait, since you have no facts to back up your assertion, mine is equally as valid.

    Dumb. Woman. but I repeat myself.

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  324. @lurker:
    —”You just implied that advocating assaulting someone=morally depraved. But that’s not the same as claiming violence=evil, oh noes.”

    It isn’t; there’s a difference between insulting someone because you claim they don’t think like you do, lurker, and defending yourself, your family, or your country.

    “you’re not being slapped around because of intellectual disagreement, dumbass. you’re being slapped around because you deserve it, you entitled bitch.”
    Oh, spank me. ;]

    “except if they steal your house and land. Then JUST GET OVER IT–right, Mandy?”
    Depends. If you can form a revolutionary army and fight for it back, do it. If they take your house and your land, it’s probably the government, and it’s resources will be infinitely larger than yours, but you can take a stand.

    If that’s not the road you want to take and you can get out of the country and into a better one, do that.

    “Your the one who loves Castro, bitch, not me.”
    I thought I loved Nobama.

    Come on, lurker, keep your delusions straight. gosh.

    –”given how feminazis love hate crime legislation and thought police, it probably won’t be too long.”
    That would be unfortunate. I won’t have anyone to fight with anymore.

    –”wait, you’re not going to be there?”
    You just implied that you wanted to…
    actually, I’m going to drop this right now.

    —”love how feminazis have their rape-homo fanatasies about prison.”
    Not as much as a fantasy as it is funny.

    What, you’re too pc to joke about rape, homo?

    –”you just think anyone who didn’t vote for NotMyPresident is a racist.”
    Umm…no.

    “lol, you’ll just curl up in the corner and cry like the little bitch you are.”
    Was that a challenge?

    “based of course on your profound psychological insights and statistically based evidence….oh, wait, nope, just your “feeling” and your ignoring the Occam’s razor answer: they’re Republican, he’s a commie. Gotta love feminist “logic.””
    Then explain why the Cubans who were going to vote for Hilary decided to vote for McCain instead when Hilary dropped out of the race, despite the fact that Hilary and Obama had the most similar politics.

    I’m waiting.

    – “one guy=community, according to Mandy.”
    Um, no. I wasn’t talking about anything related to Obama in that incident, I was talking about how his “jokes” weren’t really funny, they were kind of serious.

    ”–ah, the SWPL language: hatespeech! Burn him, he’s a witch! hatecrime, Newthink, blackwhite!”
    I don’t think he should be burned or “formally punished.” But if someone starts throwing hatespeech around my friends, they can count on me politely avoiding them.

    It’s just a natural human instinct. I can’t trust someone who hates based on skin color.

    —”so a man who spent 5 years in prison and more fighting for his country and never cracked is somehow not a hero, because a community organizing pussy who’s never done anything isn’t?”
    No. I’m using hero as a terms of who’s going to save this country out of the current “crisis” it’s in. And no, neither of them is going to save this country from that crisis, whether it’s economic or not. They’re both human. End of.

    In terms of war, yes McCain’s a hero. Obama can’t even compete with that.

    “Nice logic, feminazi.”

    Wait, I’m a “commie” right? The nazis weren’t commies, remember?

    –”ah, the sad attempt by a woman when she’s lost an argument and made to look foolish: well, we just ahve to agree to disagree, because both sides are the same.”
    The fact that you keep arguing with me and attacking me at every opportunity just kind of worsens your reputation on here, and makes you the foolish one, my friend. (though I’m one to talk)

    As it is, I can’t vote, couldn’t vote last election, or the one before. If you asked me, McCain should’ve been president in 2000, but hey. That’s how the cookie crumbled, unfortunately.

    “No, cuntrag. You are wrong.”

    But you just said I was right!

    You know, I’m worried. I think you might have some sort of personality disorder.

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  325. @lurker, mandy – please, knock it off. those comments add nothing and just pollute the board. our host has asked for restraint on excessively crazy or off-topic comments – just a friendly reminder.

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  326. @lurker:

    Article on racism in Cuba:

    http://www.angelfire.com/pr/red/cuba/cuba_anti_racism.htm

    Things have improved for some blacks, and blacks in general I think, but then you see websites like:
    http://www.therealcuba.com/Page21.htm

    The racism towards blacks is coming from somewhere. Note how most Cuban emigrants are white, and these are most of the ones you’ll encounter in the United States. Some of them migrated right when Castro came into power, or right after, and they still hold the racist sentiments from the late fifties and the sixties.

    People happen to think that Hispanics are less racist because, as a whole, Hispanic people tend to be more mixed.

    However, you see light mulattos insulting dark mulattos, you see whites discriminating against the blacks, you see everything.

    http://www.cubanet.org/CNews/y98/sep98/17e9.htm

    Though, to be honest, I think Cubans and other Hispanics that are racist (after all, not everyone is, and don’t mistake me for saying so) are more open to talk about race than others, and say what is on their mind. In general, there are fewer PC attitudes.

    Not all are HARDxCORE racist, but the older generations (and some of the new generations as well) do hold some ideas that could be described as such.

    Oh, and I happen to like this link for anyone who supports Universal Health Care based on Michael Moore’s Cuba argument.

    http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

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  327. Ah, cuntrag

    “It isn’t; there’s a difference between insulting someone because you claim they don’t think like you do, lurker, and defending yourself, your family, or your country.”
    —wtf does THAT have to do you with your whiny, illogical ass getting the beatdown it deserves?

    Answer: nothing. Another nonsequitor by an illogical female.

    “Depends. If you can form a revolutionary army and fight for it back, do it. If they take your house and your land, it’s probably the government, and it’s resources will be infinitely larger than yours, but you can take a stand.”
    —-lol. So now you contradict yourself, when you told your grandfather to JUST GET OVER IT and he WAS BEING RIDICULOUS for demanding his stolen land back.

    You lose, illogical one.

    “I thought I loved Nobama.”
    —No real difference, dingbat.

    “That would be unfortunate. I won’t have anyone to fight with anymore. ”
    –or create anything, or do any meaningful work. A world of whiny females and mincing homosexuals doing each other’s hair and fading into oblivion.

    “actually, I’m going to drop this right now.”
    –fat chance.

    “Not as much as a fantasy as it is funny.”
    —keep fantasizing there, tubby.

    “Was that a challenge?”
    –there’s no challenge from a bitch like you.

    “Then explain why the Cubans who were going to vote for Hilary decided to vote for McCain instead when Hilary dropped out of the race, despite the fact that Hilary and Obama had the most similar politics.”
    –lol. Female logic.

    Hillary is left, but no one is as left as Nobama. Hillary would at least be tough foreign-policy wise and wouldn’t be hugging castro. The anti-Bush backlash was great, but they suddenly woke up and realized how McCain was 100x better than Nobama.

    They switched to McCain because Nobama is castro, part 2.

    Occam’s razor, biznich. You lose.

    “I’m waiting. ”
    —the revolution is coming, comrade.

    “Um, no. I wasn’t talking about anything related to Obama in that incident, I was talking about how his “jokes” weren’t really funny, they were kind of serious. ”
    –and you used it as your only evidence as to why all cubans are racists. Nice try to double talk.

    “I don’t think he should be burned or “formally punished.” But if someone starts throwing hatespeech around my friends, they can count on me politely avoiding them.”
    –hatespeech! blackwhite! SWPL groupthink!

    “It’s just a natural human instinct. I can’t trust someone who hates based on skin color. ”
    —-racism is the most evil thing eva!

    “No. I’m using hero as a terms of who’s going to save this country out of the current “crisis” it’s in.”
    —lol. I love how to Mandy, hero=president during economic slowdown. Hero is not risking your life, its giving speeches and passing legislation!

    lmao.

    Newsflash, moron: Nobama has lengethened and worsened the recession, McCain would not have. McCain is better than Nobama; they are not equal.

    “In terms of war, yes McCain’s a hero. Obama can’t even compete with that.”
    –even a stopped clock….

    “Wait, I’m a “commie” right? The nazis weren’t commies, remember?”
    —lol. typical left wing Newthink. The Nazis were socialists, dummy, fasicst socialists, an offshoot of communism. More governmental control, destruction of free will, high taxation, government control of businesses.

    You know, like Nobama.

    “The fact that you keep arguing with me and attacking me”
    –translation–stop using logic to make me look foolish! Waa!

    “just kind of worsens your reputation on here,”
    —to a woman, its not what you do, but how you look doing it that matters! The emptiness of their sex.

    “If you asked me, McCain should’ve been president in 2000”
    —no one did, cuntrag.

    “That’s how the cookie crumbled, unfortunately.”
    –bitch, bush did a good job, deal with.

    “I think you might have some sort of personality disorder.”
    –lol. the same bitch with a psych degree and profound statistical evidence of whtie cubans rejecting Nobama via racism is the same one making clinical diagnoses of people she’s never met.

    Game, Set, match, Cuntrag.

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  328. Mandy, I’m going to write this slowly, because I know you don’t read fast:

    THE ARTICLES YOU SITE DO NOT TALK ABOTU AMERICAN CUBANS. THEY TALK ABOUT PEOPLE IN CUBA, WHO DID NOT VOTE FOR NOBAMA BECAUSE THEY ARE NTO IN AMERICA.

    And, of course, none of the articles contain anything but anecdotal evidence, not statistics.

    but don’t let that defeat you, feminazi! Scream and shout your slogans, don’t let facts destroy you!

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  329. My issue with waiting on black people isn’t their poor tipping (I honestly believe it’s been getting better over the years). But black people will run your ass off and are picky as shit.

    Blacks operate off of the concept of “the hook up”. you hook a brotha up, he’ll tip you well. it just starts to get difficult because there are natural constraints on hooking someone up. that and they’ll ask for a steak cooked well done, and it could be burnt to a crisp but many will still send it back.

    for a white male waiter, Asian males (second gen and beyond, with girlfriends) are the worst to wait on. they are very protective of their women and tip like i was trying to fuck her at the table or something.

    [editor: this is so true. i used to hang out with a 2nd gen korean american guy and his gf, and i dreaded going out to eat wtih them because he would leave a 5% tip. and he was a guy who was an ivy league grad and making six figures.]

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  330. maurice

    @lurker, mandy – please, knock it off.

    Mandy, you are much smarter than lurker. It took me up until age 40 to learn to stop arguing with the retards. They can’t learn.

    Maybe you’ll catch on earlier.

    Don’t feed the trolls. It pollutes space.

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  331. PA,
    Thank you. I’ve heard accounts of “Noveau Riche” Blacks *overtipping* but I’ve yet to actually witness it myself firsthand. Can’t say I’ve seen a lot of Black non-tippers either, quite frankly. Most Black people I personally know do indeed tend to tip.

    As for the other question of whether there’s tension between Blacks and White Cubans…I honestly cannot say, as I don’t have any personal experience or observation to draw upon. I’ve heard about such tensions btw Black & White Cubans on the island itself, but again there’s no way I can verify this. I’ve personally come into contact w/very few Cubans of any color, and the majority of Hispanics I know tend to be either Puerto Ricans or Dominicans. And strangely enough, for some reason, both groups, when they hear me speaking Spanish, mistake me for a Cubano, lol.

    Aint life peculiar?

    O

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  332. Xsplat, bite me. You think a dumb bitch like Mandy, who has zero logic behind her arguments, makes any sense?

    go worship her at another shrine, son.

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  333. Lady Cumstaine:

    “You don’t know whether I’m trashy or not”

    —lol, cumstaine. You’re a piece of trash whore. It’s as plain as the wrinkles on your face.

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  334. “Of course it’s trashy but it was a job.”
    –because McDonald’s wasn’t hiring?

    “I loved it though and I’d do it again just for fun if I had more time to do so.”

    Contradiction just exploded meeting Lady Cumstaine.

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  335. Tarl,
    Hmm, agreed. Then perhaps yo might share my view that one can wield Game in such a way that it doesn’t have to involve things like being a jerk for the heck of it, dissing waitstaff and just being an overall bad human being, all in the name of getting some. Even from very good lookin Women. And again, while I don’t deny that such things can and often do work, what its advocates also don’t do, is tell you at what price such things come.

    Maybe its me, but I’ve seen enough pain and suffering in this world to just indulge in it for the heck of it. If that makes me soft, Beta, whatever, so be it. Life’s just too short being a douchebag or un-necessarily mean or a jerk.

    Anyway, its nice to know that maybe we might be as different as it seems. And maybe Mead was on to something when she said, that we’re more alike as individuals, than as groups.

    Hmm.

    The Obsidian

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  336. Cumstaine:

    “Lurker if McDonald’s paid what dancers make I’d be there in a flash, buddy.”

    —So to recap: you worked at a trashy job, loved the money, loved the job.

    But you’re not trashy.

    The mind boggles. How do you even get childproof caps open?

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  337. @lurker:

    “Xsplat, bite me. You think a dumb bitch like Mandy, who has zero logic behind her arguments, makes any sense?

    go worship her at another shrine, son.”
    Lurker, because you seem to think that when racist Cubans travel to the United States, they mysteriously become nonracist, I suggest that you travel to another country to see if it’ll cure your mental retardation.

    Just a suggestion.

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  338. cumstaine:

    “I worked in a very strict club that allowed NO touching and had live video feed for security.”
    —lol. ‘Cause that made it classy.

    Face it honey: you’re a trashy bitch. Any woman who has worked as a stripped is. Deal with it.

    cuntrag:

    “Lurker, because you seem to think that when racist Cubans travel to the United States, they mysteriously become nonracist,”
    —-
    1) The cubans mentioned are STILL IN CUBA. Not in AMERICA. All the articles are therefore irrelevant.

    2) No statistic on racism is cited.

    You lose, anecdote girl.

    “I suggest that you travel to another country to see if it’ll cure your mental retardation.”
    —I guess that means all Italian-Americans in the US are the same as in Italy; all Irish-Americans same in Ireland; and all Chinese-American same as in China.

    Thank you for your non-racist blanket associations, racist girl!

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  339. Mandy, all those articles prove is that Castro’s supposedly “non-racist” government is accused of racism.

    Funny how when the commies take over, suddenly inequality becomes worse. Hmm….

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  340. on July 31, 2009 at 3:14 pm gauisuticensis

    Two whiny pissants turning this blog into their personal flame war.

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  341. The one on the left looks like a sexy librarian in a negligee.
    For a beta that’s a turn-on. Smart and hot to trot.

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  342. gauisuticensis:
    “A whiny beta bitch is turning this blog into his own personal place to bitch about interwebs fights.”
    —FTFY

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  343. Ok, lurker, I have to give you props, that was hilarious.

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  344. too many of these responses are insults and not negs.

    I had tears running down my face from laughing so hard at G Manifesto’s response. fucking brilliant.

    sorry to digress, but I wanted to comment on the tipping conversation. as someone who bartends on the weekends at some of the best clubs in the city, I can speak from plenty of experience.

    blacks are shitty tippers, though as chuck said, they have been getting a *little* better of late. or maybe it’s just that I work in the top clubs and they know they can’t get away with their usual Applebees tips and still expect to get served, or at least in a prompt fashion. however, the black crowd does tend to buy a lot of bottles (mostly champagne, some liquor) and all clubs I’ve ever been to/worked at that sell bottles include an auto-gratuity on the bottles (my current club puts an 18% auto-grat on any bottle sold), so, ironically, I tend to make the most money on “black night”…though from the auto-grat, not from the tip. because of the auto-grat, I just let the other shitty tips roll off my back and wait to sell bottles. so really, blacks being shitty tippers doesn’t bother me or affect me very much. I’m sure if I worked at ESPN Zone, it’d be a very different story though.

    what bothers me about the black crowd is their cynicism. they ALWAYS think you’re out to get them. “ooooooh! nuh uh! her shot got more than mine it! I seen what you did!” all over a shot glass that is 3/16″ less full than another. I had another guy threaten to beat me up when I poured him the two Grey Goose and Cranburries he ordered, claiming that I poured “way less” in one glass than the other. actually, Sherlock, I totally poured the same amount into both drinks. here’s a news flash for the black clientele: the bartender is not trying to rip you off, ESPECIALLY at high volume establishments like the ones I work at. high volume bartenders make their money by serving as many customers as possible as quickly as possible. we’re not gonna risk wasting even 20 seconds of our time arguing with you just so we can “rip you off” by giving you 1/2 oz less in your drink. it’s not worth it, so we wouldn’t do it. we just want to serve you and get on to the next customer to keep the dollars flowing. it’d be one thing if we had to buy the alcohol we serve from the establishment and then resell it ourselves, but that’s not the case. the establishment pays for the alcohol it sells. WE DON’T GIVE A SHIT about liquor costs (i.e. trying to scrimp on pours). we will try to pour you as much as we can get away with in order to keep the customer happy without the bosses yelling at us for overpouring. no one is out to get you. grow the fuck up. if 1/4 oz of booze is worth throwing a fit over to you, I suggest you pre-game at your house before you come out, or try your luck smuggling a flask into the club.

    the funniest club creature is the white guy who shows up, without fail, on every “black night” and tries to roll up on the sistas. this guy is without fail always a completely sleazy waste of skin. they try to earn their bonafides with the sistas by ordering Incredible Hulks or Hennessy and cranberries, but their signature move is the super-shitty tip. they’ll order a $60 round and leave you a dollar, throw at you on the bar in contempt. “look at me, sista. I’m so hard I tip even worse than y’all. I bet you can’t wait to get on my five inch dick.”

    Asians can be the best tippers but also rival blacks in shitty tips. usually they tip well, but sometimes you get those finance major Asians who know full well the value of every nickel they leave you.

    for all of you out there in the service industry, this is the best way I’ve found to deal with the situation, and it’s all the more effective if he’s with his girl: in a non-confrontational tone, simply ask, “Can I ask you a question? Were you unhappy with the service?”
    usual response will be, “No, why?”
    come back, “Well, you left a (5% tip/10% tip/whatever shitty tip). that’s usually a sign of an unhappy customer or bad service.”
    EVERY time I’ve tried this approach, it has NEVER failed to procure more cash from the tight-fisted fuck. and if it were to fail, the guy would just look that much more cheap in front of his girl. take a mental snapshot of his face and never serve him again, no matter how long he’s been waiting at the bar.

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  345. @bill – can you say which club…?

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  346. “For an example Eric, look at this mugshot of porn star/senatorial candidate Stormy Daniels,
    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/porn-star-mulling-103559.html
    Daniels is just 30, and already looks rough.”

    I’d still do her. Look closer at the picture – she looks tired, but SHE’S WEARING A TANK TOP.

    all is forgiven when theyre wearing the tank

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  347. Left to Right: That’s a modern haircut, what a big smile, you seem a tad bored, guess what animal you look most like?

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  348. Roissy, I know you have a much more liberal policy about comments than I do, but still, I’d start axing the Lurker and Mandy comments. It’s really getting annoying because I have to scroll twice as much to get to the real comments (like the ones where guys don’t know the difference between a neg and an insult.)

    You don’t even have to delete all of them, which would be a total pain in the ass. Just enough so that many of their rambling points don’t get made. That should frustrate them enough to send them elsewhere.

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  349. My girl friend and I were reading the comments last night – it was my friend’s first look at the blog – we were totally cracking up. Come on guy the point of a neg is to get her interest and lower her value somewhat relative to yours not to slap her with a stupid insult and have her want to throw a drink in your fool face! Jeesh – get with the program dudes!

    Never use these:

    “I like your sweater vest – I have one just like it, a hanukah present from my grandma.”

    “But maybe you shouldnt drink… Do you think wifebeaters should drink…?”

    “Nice earrings. They really highlight your ears, but not making them too large”

    “Young lady your “man purse” is hogging the shot, pull it down.”

    And THIS ONE!! Come on are you frickin Kidding me??

    “And I offer the first one to respond a Breath Mint…. No seriously… take one hun.”

    This one works:

    “I feel like…a blond today.

    However, don’t tell aoefe she primed me for corn-fed blonds with plush, titty-fuckable racks” 🙂

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  350. Aoefe is sexy.

    Oh snap.

    Gold advice you gave there. There’s a point where negs will keep the set closed under lock and key. The goal is to open the seat.

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  351. @Mandy with the Big XD

    Do you talk a lot in real life too?? Or have you forgotten there is a BIG Wide World out there too? 🙂

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  352. Obsidian,

    Late reply, but I meant I admire the way you keep your cool when the Aryan Nation crowd comes around with their inane rants. You don’t get sucked into the “all whites” or “all asians” or “all blacks” rut, but keep it to the issues or the persons involved. Your advice is sane and offered in a spirit of generosity rather than brag, unlike some around here.

    The word you in the last sentence was directed at some of my misdirected fellows. None of us earned or won the color of our skin, so rationally it ought to rank behind the grade we got in arithmetic, our 100 yard dash time, or any other thing we got for ourselves.

    I’m just here for the ideas on using game to keep my marriage happy and intact and alive, like Dave in Hawaii. But I can admit that I now recognize how I blew several opportunities back when I was single which I have long regretted.

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  353. MarkD backslapped:

    Obsidian,

    Late reply, but I meant I admire the way you keep your cool when the Aryan Nation crowd comes around with their inane rants.

    It truly is most generous of O to point out White mistakes daily.

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  354. ”””””LovelySextBeauty,
    Even well-intentioned or joking racial comments from a random stranger can kill the mood, make things uncomfortable. If you don’t know a guy is cool and not racist, how do you know he isn’t some secret KKK guy with the racial comments?””””””””””””””

    ””””””””on July 31, 2009 at 10:57 am PA
    but it was uncomfortable coming from a typical looking white guy, maybe.

    But if it was coming from a non-typical white guy or a non-white guy, it would be OK?””””””””””””

    Dam 2nd dream woman has been destroyed by PA. Thanks,
    Single tear falls from cheek.

    As I listen to life goes on.

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  355. Gunslingergregi lamented

    Dam 2nd dream woman has been destroyed by PA. Thanks,
    Single tear falls from cheek

    dewd – you neva had one small chance neway. LovelySexlessBeauty only gives you action if your name is like Pradeep or something and you’re an M.D.

    or you lead a Design Team for ion fuel cell recovery schematic modules at Tata Motors

    get thee a white girl with a deep, dark, rich tan

    nowhere near as high maint

    well, i’m off to get it wet. back in 3 days.
    maybe

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  356. on August 1, 2009 at 4:57 pm Howard Roark

    Who is writing these posts? Did Roissy get lobotomized?

    What is wrong with you people? Am I the only one who can tell that a surrogate has murdered Roissy and hijacked his blog? What the Fuck?

    Where the hell is Roissy????

    I’m not reading this blog until Roissy comes back from vacation or burnout or whatever the fuck.

    Jesus.

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  357. well… I am new at neg/false discualifiers so, here I go:

    -I take the picture look at it, and say:-

    Me: “OK STOP! this is wrong. Dude stand here…”,
    -walk up, break up the formation, tap the dude on the shoulder urging him to follow my lead-
    -I position the guy in the center of the girl-

    Me: “‘Aight now just huddle up together”
    -standing infront of the group, camara on my hand, arms wide open signaling them to huddle up-

    (guy is now my friend, girls don’t see as being sexualy interested in them)

    Me: “That’s better” big smile, eye contact everyone
    -step back and take the picture, after counting to 3 really fast.

    Me: “OK 1,2,3″ click”

    -look at the picture, before walking up to the group.

    Proceed to shotgun neg the blode on her pose in the picture. I would look for some kind of timid bodylanguage, fake smile, or something. Then, with my shoulder/back to the blonde ask the Asian girl

    Me: “So how do you all know eachother?”

    Start the small talk with all of them, but be indiferent to the blode initially.

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  358. tip for the players – negs should be funny (like Roissy’s).

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  359. ””””Firepower
    well, i’m off to get it wet. back in 3 days.
    maybe”””””’

    Have fun.

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  360. holy cow, that asian girl is F-A-T. what the hell is wrong with this city where even the asiatics are all walrus’d out??? god damn.

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  361. i usually prefer girls o’ my own race, but GOD DAMN does that asian girl need to lose weight. what the HELL is wrong with a city where even the mongoloid ladies all look as if they’re baking bread in their stomach??

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  362. Epsilonguy – I am noticing more fat girls in Eastern Europe now than I did 5-10 years ago.

    I hope I’m just imagining this. But if I’m not, I suspect the culprit is one of America’s many civilization-killing exports. Potato chips in this case. Very popular there. Didn’t exist under Communism.

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  363. Tell me about it Epsilonguy – one of the very few redeeming features that East Asian women have in terms of attractiveness is being effortlessly slender. I feel bad for that girl.

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  364. david alexander’s taste in women is widely known to fall well outside the norm. in an unguarded monent way back during the inception of this blog he posted links to his favorite porn stars — let’s just say you’d never guess there were so many lantern-jawed trannies available to fill such a small niche market. therefore, no one should take his opinion on women’s looks seriously. he discredited himself.

    as for the girls… from left, 6.5, 7, 6, 7.5. the girl on the far left looks as though she could go up or down a full point based on viewing angle. she’s a wildcard.

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  365. on August 2, 2009 at 10:30 pm The Fifth Horseman (formerly Tood)

    as for the girls… from left, 6.5, 7, 6, 7.5.

    Relatively similar to mine (6.5, 8, 6, 6.5). Beauty is objective, and serious observers will not deviate to far from the consensus.

    I just happen to like blondes and boobs (hence an 8 to the second), while the hairstyle of the rightmost needs a big improvement.

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  366. on August 3, 2009 at 4:22 am Willard Libby

    Epoxytocin No. 87

    Whoever said 0, 1, or 2 was clearly not being serious. I’m surprised roissy took the bait.

    I said it and I’m totally serious.

    L to R – mutley is a dog, I give her a 1. She looks like a junior high school boy. She’s not willing to open up the smile for fear that her full set of dog teeth are going to gross everybody out.

    Blondie is a 4 at best, she’s nothing. Doesn’t even look like an adult woman, zero sex appeal.

    The Korean moon face looks androgynous, I don’t rank her at all therefore a zero! She’s a wide pelvic boned muffin top.

    On the right I gave a 2 but maybe the smile got me. On second viewing I give her a 1.

    The brunette over blondie’s head has some potential.

    You guys are pathetic. 3 dogs and a plain jane and you goofballs are talking 6, 7 or 8 out of 10 ratings.

    You’re out of your fucking minds.

    1, 4, 0, 1. That’s my final rating. And I’m being generous to the 4 because of all the other canines in the photo..

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  367. The correct answer is 8,7,7,6. And yes, all ratings subject to change, depending on new camera angles. Especially with the high variable girls on the ends.

    Libby does indeed sound like a basement nerd with his 1,4,0,1 ratings. Reminds me of that guy in high school who never went out on a date because he claimed his “standards were too high.”

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  368. on August 3, 2009 at 11:24 pm Willard Libby

    Riff Dog

    The correct answer is 8,7,7,6.

    You have pathetically low standards to rank this group of nothings so highly.

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  369. Hey, guys, I’m wondering, do men rank other men on the 1-10 scale?

    Because I know willard does, and I was wondering if it’s something you do.

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  370. So impressive to see internet e-casanovas jumping at the bit to make those “oh I wouldn’t touch them” grunts about decent-looking girls.

    You can always tell who the most butthurt, deprived-of-cute-girls guys are by the insistence of any “not good enough for me” claims.

    Anyway…Roissy’s ratings a few posts up are fairly accurate.

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  371. […] me use an example to demonstrate what I am talking about. This post from Roissy shows what I am getting at.  It contains a few outlier comments that are, in my […]

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  372. The guy in the back is the girl on the left’s brother. Just thought I’d point that one out since if you were to amog him you’d lose the set when the sister defend him and drags the group away.

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  373. gimme a break, i wouldn’t touch any of them except the girl in the white tank top, how can anyone legitimately say that they’re above 5’s (except blonde)?

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  374. “the girl on the far left looks as though she could go up or down a full point based on viewing angle. she’s a wildcard.”

    pfffffhuahahahahahhaa, “wildcard” made my day

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  375. To the hottest girl in red:
    “nice negligee”
    or
    “nice negligee, going to a slumber party?”

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  376. I really don’t get these comments. People rating the first girl a 1? Or rating the blonde higher than the first girl in red?
    Realistically you can’t give an accurate rating from one picture, since the first girl may have a big ass, one leg, or (hinted at in the picture) maybe some sort of weird teeth, but she obviously has the best features from what can be seen in this picture. She has the best skin, clear bright eyes, nice facial bone structure, longest neck, nice tits, etc.

    The blonde has bad skin, a strangely pushed in prematurely older looking face, and unpleasantly dry looking hair. and it looks like shes thinks shes hotter than she actually is. She assumes the the alpha girl center in her group.

    Meanwhile the better looking red negligee girl is relaxed while still being self-consciously slightly off to the side.
    Red negligee girl is at the very least a full point above any other girl in the picture.

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