The Industrial Park Nightclub Is Dead

Who goes to these venues anymore? I’m talking about clubs like Fur and Platinum in DC. The era of the multi-floor, $12 bottom shelf drink, $20 cover, $20 valet parking, bottle service douchery, strobe and laser light show, Axe fumigated, plastic wristband tagged, earsplitting, bump and grind dance club playing cheesy house and electro music is over. Any man who’s lived a day knows these places are the worst for scoring quality chicks low on STD count, and not much better for hooking same night lays.

The trend is away from these soulless behemoths to smaller, more intimate dance clubs and lounges. Maybe it’s a sign of the coming economic collapse that people are turning to low key places, or maybe guys are wising up to the fact that it’s easier, cheaper and more effective to game girls in the daytime or in less artificial environments. I predict that soon we will see a major contraction in the number of megaclubs littering major cities like DC and New York.

Any place that features a huge dancefloor with girls dancing in lockout circles creating a perimeter defense, screeching when their favorite song comes on, and little space left over for couches and quiet areas where you can sit with a girl and talk her into sex is a bad bet. Personally, I get bored with dancing after five minutes, so I usually lose interest in gaming a girl who wants to dance all night. It’s pointless when there are better things she could be doing with her body, like greasing up her ass crack so I can play log flume.

The wave of the future is Unanticipated Pickup. You read it here first. Men will learn the value of approaching girls when and where they least expect it, catching pleasantly surprised girls off guard with bitch shields lowered, and from that solid foundation better dating experiences will follow, and the yin-yang polarity will be strong. Now no place will be safe haven for women from the predations of guys like me.

Next stop: Church, back of the pews. Giggity!





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  1. So, the wave of the future is the same as the past? I don’t know which dimwits ever thought a successful relationship could bloom from meeting at the club. I’m sure it has happened, but the odds are definitely against it. I guess some guys can only approach women under the influence of the liquid courage that alcohol brings.

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  2. You’re just now realizing that the best game is to be had in traditionally non-game environments?

    Say what?

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  3. i agree. only boring vanilla suburban people go to those places in the hapless attempt to spice up their strip mall lives. those places are like the Walmart of the club scene. and really, all the better for us who know the nicer spots…weeds out the losers.

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  4. So, the wave of the future is the same as the past? I don’t know which dimwits ever thought a successful relationship could bloom from meeting at the club.

    I don’t think relationships are the points of those places. Easy ass is. I don’t know if those clubs will ever fully die here in NY though, because unlike DC we have a high population of guidos from outer boroughs like Staten Island, Brooklyn and Queens and from farther out in Long Island who basically live to keep these places open. $40 and up entrance fee to boot. The good thing about the superclubs though is that by attracting the guidos, they keep them out of the other places I attend, making them easier to avoid.

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  5. Not gonna happen here on South Beach. These places are the playgrounds of the rich and beautiful and are still going strong.

    What you are seeing is stratification. The ruse of a democratic entrance policy is being shown for the farce that it is. The poorer and less beautiful are taking the hint that they don’t belong there and so are creating their own social niches.

    This pretty much explains the hipster subculture, at least here in my town.

    Not that I’m complaining. I don’t like those superclubs either.

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  6. Roiss wrote:

    “Any place that features a huge dancefloor with girls dancing in lockout circles creating a perimeter defense, screeching when their favorite song comes on, and little space left over for couches and quiet areas where you can sit with a girl and talk her into sex is a bad bet.”

    Good observation. Thats precisely what used to happen even back in the early 90’s when I was still prowlin’.

    Roiss further wrote:

    “The wave of the future is Unanticipated Pickup. You read it here first. Men will learn the value of approaching girls when and where they least expect it, catching pleasantly surprised girls off guard with bitch shields lowered”

    This would be a pleasant trend indeed. Also what better way for a man to show he is confident and self-assured than to attempt to aqaint and phone tag women when they are out ALONE, away from their alpha-cock-blocking fatty BFF’s, who are desperate for their prettier friends to stay single until after their own weddings?

    If you think about it, for naturally “shy” guys, DayGame would be a much better solution for their fear of being shot-down in front of their pals. You trawl the bookstore, mall, strip malls, resturaunt lounge ALONE. She is ALONE. If you get shot down, laughed at, or hell even smacked (has happened to all of us once), WHO is around to see it? Nobody but you and her. Your club value doesn’t get lowered for those who witnessed the shoot down, she has even more incentive to dress sexy when she goes out (to the benefit of all our collective eyes, and probably mentally prepares her for more coitius anyway), its cheaper, more fun, has more of a “hunting” aspect to it which should appeal to the manliest instincts of men, and frankly should be flattering to women generally.

    Even women that turn a guy down will be flattered, and by that flattering feeling that strokes their vanity, the feminine exiliration that comes with it, mentally prepares her to consider the next unsolicited grocery-store pick-up in earnest. Her scolding cock-blocker who will gossip to all her friends isn’t around, nobody need know, he gets a chance with musical silence and no distraction, she is dressed and not in club-slut-armor, she is alone-with-her-own-intellect-to-parry with. The advantages really are legion.

    Plus its fun. This blog makes me with I was still unnattatched.

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  7. girls dancing in lockout circles creating a perimeter defense, screeching when their favorite song comes on

    Lemme guess what those songs are: “U and Your Hand” by Pink six months ago, and “Hot & Cold” by Katy Parry now.

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  8. on December 30, 2008 at 12:10 pm Days of Broken Arrows

    Dude, I helped invent the unanticipated pickup back in the day!

    My fave place to go was shopping malls (which are no longer as happening since the Internet rendered them largely irrelevant starting around 2000).

    A good technique is to go into a clothing store where a hot woman works and pretend you’re clueless and trying to buy something for your sister — or yourself. Girls at work are usually bored and welcome the attention. It helps to be funny. Card stores work just as well as do shoe stores (lots of women in these places).

    I wish I was still young enough to get away with this! I pulled this off so many times in my day I had to find other malls in neaby towns to meet new women.

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  9. I was at the Green Iguana Anderson in Tampa last night. DJ Tiesto was playing. I didn’t know there was that many douchebags in Tampa. Lots of eye candy and even more cockblocking.

    Good thing I had a girl meet me there.

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  10. “The trend is away from these soulless behemoths to smaller, more intimate dance clubs and lounges. ”

    This trend has been going on for the last few years.

    “The wave of the future is Unanticipated Pickup.”

    Agreed. Swooping girls should always be natural.

    I have been against the scripted un-natural pick up style for ages.

    Although, I do see the benefit for guys with zero Game.

    – MPM

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  11. “My fave place to go was shopping malls”

    I see the thinking behind this, but keep in mind you have to go to shopping malls. Nothing could be worse than being at the mall.

    High-end shopping streets are better. You can also intermix some Street Game and Cafe Game with it.

    Or Beach Game. But then you have to be in LA, Orange County, SD or Miami Beach.

    – MPM

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  12. Scott Adams ventures into seduction theory:
    http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/glucose_equals_free_will/

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  13. Do you know the surest way to go broke?

    Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market.

    I’ll bet the last industrial park nightclub around will be the best goddamn industrial park nightclub you’ve ever seen!

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  14. on December 30, 2008 at 12:45 pm ironrailsironweights

    I’m talking about clubs like Fur

    I’ll bet there’s no “fur” at Fur :(((((

    Peter

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  15. Here’s an open question for discussion:

    Why do women go to clubs?

    My answer has always been to seek attention and validation from men. They may not be looking to hook up necessarily, but they are definitely dressed up to get noticed.

    Others have told me (i.e. unattractive females) that a significant portion of females go out to clubs “just to dance.”

    Thoughts?

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  16. That Scott Adams link is hilarious… he went straight chemistry on that joint… sugar deprivation = game weapon

    Street chat is more fun anyway…

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  17. It’s for people right out of college who don’t know any better and succumb to radio/flyer marketing. Hey it got me

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  18. Clubs are all about complete physical attraction – you really aren’t expected to talk, at all, just grind up on some random person. It’s mostly for the guido douchebag guys who are lost in their immature maleness. They tend to be jocks, swear at each other a lot, drink heavily, make crude/homosexual/racist jokes constantly, and don’t seem motivated enough to change their behavior to be at all acceptable when they talk to women. So they go to a place where they don’t have to talk so they won’t be exposed for the douchebags they are.

    My theory Is that women go mostly because it validates them…they get guys interested in them who are seemingly high value because they’re physically attractive in the club and thats all that matters there. They probably wouldn’t be able to do that as well in the low-key setting – the same “high value” guys would be exposed as douchebags once they tried to have a conversation.

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  19. Girls go to clubs to dance. Very few girls will leave a club, and go somewhere else if they come in and find it is mostly full of other women. Girls also go the clubs as a status check for the group. Guys are the currency, not an end in themselves. The girl who gets the most guys coming up to her is the Queen, at least for the night. She gets to lord it over her fellow, less successful sisters, while they in turn, try not resent her. Pity the poor girl who comes in last for that derby. Over time, it will become well known who keeps getting the most guys. Other girls will not want to go out with her so much. The girl who consistently gets the least amount of men will never have to fear not being asked out to the clubs with other girls. If the reigning Queen falls short that night, much crowing happens, and the Queen will privately vow to redouble her efforts in dressing and provacative behavior for the next time.

    All this occurs below the surface, of course.

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  20. I agree with all the negative talk about clubs. Hell, I have been going to restaurants, Gentleman’s Clubs and lounges for years instead for my nightlife fix.

    But you will have to admit, at 3:30 am the nightclub is probably your best option at that hour to swoop girls.

    Sure beats the taco shop at 3:30am.

    Although, when I was a younger prototype G, I swooped plenty of girls out front of 7-11’s.

    – MPM

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  21. If you want to swoop girls from the club, here’s the easy way: wait till they are outside smoking. Works like a charm and you don’t even have to pay the $20 cover charge to get in.

    Caveat: They taste like cigarettes.

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  22. Yeah, megaclubs in America blow big time.

    They’re still fine in Russia because Russian girls in Russia don’t go for validation. They’re there to get drunk, dance, and pick up men, although they’re usually but not always trying to find a long-term sugar daddy rather than a quick lay.. their behavior is almost like men, except that they actually enjoy dancing.

    As a man, you have to watch yourself on the purchasing drinks aspect of it though, because Russian girls will drink tons of pricey drinks faster than you can blink and you’ll get hit with a whopping bill. It works out in a way in Russia that it doesn’t in America, since most men in clubs have a decent amount of money and most women are college age girls without any money. So you usually don’t get the feeling that you’re getting used, as long as YOU make the offer to buy the drink. I never buy drinks for girls that ask for one, because then you are guaranteed to play the sucker.

    Two Moscow megaclubs, Park Avenue Disco and Zona (it means Prison, like a labor camp/penetentiary in Russian, and the club used to have guard dogs on leashes, barbed wire, a snake and mouse run built into it’s floor, and other weird shit in it’s decor and grounds) actually have little cabins, about 5 at Park Avenue and 20 at Zona, kind of the size of telephone booths that locked from the inside, so that if you wanted to have sex, you could do it right there. Those are megaclubs that cater to the needs of their clients!!!

    That said, I still prefer smaller clubs in UA and RU, for the same reasons Roissy posted here. It’s easier to talk to the girls and chat them up if there are some sofas nearby.

    I can’t figure out why American girls go out to clubs.. it’s seems to me exactly as anonymous wrote… status check for the girls to determine their pecking order. They don’t seem to be interested in doing anything but hanging our with the friends they already brought to the club and knocking incoming men down like a bug-zapper.

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  23. Unanticipated Pickup = Day Game. Yawn.

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  24. “Do you know the surest way to go broke?

    Keep getting an increasing share of a shrinking market.

    I’ll bet the last industrial park nightclub around will be the best goddamn industrial park nightclub you’ve ever seen!”

    Props for the Other People’s Money reference. OPM was a mediocre movie, but it has the rare distinction of being economically literate.

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  25. I also dislike pickups in clubs.

    This is mostly because large, loud, obnoxious groups of people cause me to become physically violent, as I have demonstrated at clubs, concerts, and the Lazard Capital Markets Annual Healthcare Conference in the past.

    I prefer day game / unanticipated encounters because it avoids a lot of the incessant troglodyte bullshit factor of clubs, referenced above by Mr. Raw as guidos.

    Perhaps not coincidental we are both in New York.

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  26. I can’t figure out why American girls go out to clubs.. it’s seems to me exactly as anonymous wrote… status check for the girls to determine their pecking order. They don’t seem to be interested in doing anything but hanging our with the friends they already brought to the club and knocking incoming men down like a bug-zapper.

    I agree when it comes to the expensive superclubs that attract the trash, golddiggers and attention whores, but for a guy in their early to mid 20s, if you can even do a simple two-step dance, there is hands-down no better place to pickup for a one-night stand with minimal effort and verbal game than a good midsized club or lounge. Dance or grind for 15 minutes or so, makeout, take off the dancefloor, talk for a while, head out back to your place, your car, whatever.

    Also, girls in their early 20s love dancing, physical chemistry and are very looks oriented and don’t really care as much about longterm relationships, so a midsize club to them is perfect. They can dance with friends to their favorite songs, get tons of validation from desperate guys, a dancefloor is a great way to root out a beta or a potentially bad lay. Betas are scared to death and intimidated out of their mind by dancefloor, so the circle of friends is kind of a shit test. A guy who confidently breaks the circle, gets a dance and doesn’t show intimidation impresses them. And a good dance is an easy way to ramp up sexual tension with minimal effort.

    The best clubs are the midsize clubs that are notoriously hard to get into and loaded with hot women. The superclubs will let anyone in who is willing to buy a bottle and pay the exorbitant entrance fee. But the smaller clubs that are notoriously hard to get into and loaded with hot women work because being are so hard to get into makes jusy the mere fact you are inside instant social proof. If you are connected enough to get into one of these clubs, everyone just automatically assumes you must be someone connected or hip or with status, so your mere entrance is a display of high value.

    Also, the smaller clubs and lounges actually keep the music to a manageable level where you can hold a conversation.

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  27. The way I understand Club economics is that women get in for fairly low cost, as long as they are attractive. The clubs make their money on guys.

    If guys don’t have the money to spend, or can find a lower-cost or better results alternative, the clubs are screwed. Clubs go out of business a lot, it’s worse than restaurants.

    Still, if you are young, clueless, unconnected, and lacking any idea, clubs seem like a good move. With a recessionary economy, though, I wonder how long the club scene (big, small, medium and exclusive) will last. I’d bet only a few, catering to the rich scenesters, will pull through.

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  28. It’s mostly for the guido douchebag guys who are lost in their immature maleness. They tend to be jocks, swear at each other a lot, drink heavily, make crude/homosexual/racist jokes constantly

    So in other words, non-date girlfriend wants me to go clubbing with her so I can get beat up by some local area guido?

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  29. I work as a full time club promoter in NYC and I can tell you there are two types of clubs, Image and Mass parties. Image parties have “face control.” Face control means the well paid door guy will say no to girls that are fat, short, dumpy and trashy looking and only let in hot girls or girls that fit the model image. Guys need to either roll with a great ratio of hot women or pay for extremely expensive tables to attend image clubs. Mass parties will comp 90% of the girls and charge guys entry fees, they are filled with tables so the table minimum is usually 800 as opposed to 1500+ at an image party.

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  30. Thought I’d jump in here.

    T-Raw’s comments are precisely on point. I’ve always been of the view, and this comes as a direct result of my days as a DJ, to try to be a VIP if you can in some way. Instant Social Proof indeed. Game is supposed to make meeting and greeting Ladies easier, not harder. The way I figure it, if I gotta work that hard I might as well be getting paid for it.

    So I’ve always attended parties/clubs, etc where I *know someone*. The higher up the chain the better, and make sure people see you hamming it up w/them. Social Proof like a Mutha.

    That’s the Plan tomorrow night. My ace Ricky’s setup the big party & I’m one of his peeps, so that makes my “work” a lot easier. Always go where you know people.
    And as for sizes of venues, even Greene speaks to this in The Art of Seduction; smaller venues are by their very nature more conducive to Game. Cafes and the like are shoo-ins, provided you know what you’re doing.

    Getting cap-ups on the humbug is cool too, I agree with R on that one. But again, you have to be alert and seize the moment before she realizes you’ve just hit her w/the Phasers on Stun move.

    Salaam
    Mu

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  31. Promoter said:

    “I work as a full time club promoter in NYC and I can tell you there are two types of clubs, Image and Mass parties. Image parties have “face control.” Face control means the well paid door guy will say no to girls that are fat, short, dumpy and trashy looking and only let in hot girls or girls that fit the model image. Guys need to either roll with a great ratio of hot women or pay for extremely expensive tables to attend image clubs. Mass parties will comp 90% of the girls and charge guys entry fees, they are filled with tables so the table minimum is usually 800 as opposed to 1500+ at an image party.”

    They need to up the “face control” a lot at American clubs. Maybe not to the super super snobby levels at elite Moscow clubs, but fat girls in sloppy clothes need to get publicly slammed for taking so little care of their appearance. I mean slammed by the doorman in front of all their friends to the tune of, “You’re simply too fat and not stylish enough to get in here.” I can’t believe the level of sheer denial and entitlement ugly girls in America have compared to other countries around the world. I can’t think of any better way to get the message across to them than to deny entrance at an “image” club where they think all the “cool people” will be, or at least where they think all the alphas will be. As crappy as Russian men’s lives are, at least most have the consolation of having pretty, slender, and stylish girlfriends. Most American men do everything right and honorably and don’t even get close to enjoying that.

    I’m sure “face control” acted in mass probably wouldn’t pass some kind of equal rights/discrimination laws in America though. And if it did, I’m sure new statutes would come out within days of the first girl being denied entrance.

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  32. smaller venues are by their very nature more conducive to Game.

    I like day game and social circle game better too, but the virtue of clubs and (certain) bars is the sheer number of girls to practice on. Until you get really good, I wouldn’t advise giving up on clubs and bars. Opportunities to game girls during the day are fewer and farther between, so you need to be good enough to get it done consistently right whenever opportunity arises.

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  33. I’m sure “face control” acted in mass probably wouldn’t pass some kind of equal rights/discrimination laws in America though. And if it did, I’m sure new statutes would come out within days of the first girl being denied entrance.

    There are places with the type of face control you describe, but yeah, not en masse. But the real problem with enacting it en masse is that there are too many guys willing to bang trolls, and in Russia from what I hear guys have more standards and are willing to openly disdain a girl for her looks and weight. There’s a desperation epidemic here where guys will settle and accept anything for fear of losing a girl willing to have sex with them. There’s sadly a high demand for trolls and warpigs, which is why so many venues allow them to come in.

    Another problem though is the recent decline in “douche control” when admitting guys. Now with the rise of expensive bottle service, the spots with the tight “face control” for the women have zero standards on the men they let in except whether they will buy bottles. This means you get into the club and see hot women but tons of cornball I-bankers in khakis and button shirts and guidos and thugs who want to “ball out.” All desperate, all with zero game, and all trying to buy affection from the hot women, shooting their egos through the roof. It’s automatic negative social proof for a guy, you get associated with the gameless douches right away before even opening your mouth. The bottle service phenomenon KILLED the club scene in NY, but thankfully I hear its declining

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  34. “Here’s an open question for discussion:

    Why do women go to clubs?”

    To dance (really!)…

    and to get their fashion choices noted by other girls.

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  35. on December 30, 2008 at 8:52 pm Dave from Hawaii

    Why do women go to clubs?”

    Don’t forget a night of free drinks clueless betas with no game will buy them.

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  36. Dynamo Kiev —

    To do what you suggest in America would result in a hefty lawsuit, anti-discrimination action by various government entities, and yanking the liquor license and perhaps the basic permit for the club.

    This is the social reality in America. Legal/lawyer dominated.

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  37. Since we’re on the subject of clubs, bars and parties, I’m curious to know how the various posters here will be spending their New Year’s Eve.

    I myself will be going to a basement hipster bar as it is the only bar I regularly frequent that won’t be charging an excessive cover.

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  38. on December 30, 2008 at 10:36 pm ironrailsironweights

    Since we’re on the subject of clubs, bars and parties, I’m curious to know how the various posters here will be spending their New Year’s Eve.

    Making a resolution to drop my GNP fetish and learn to love the Bald Eagle.

    Someone just shoot me, okay?

    Peter

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  39. Dynamo: Whiskey’s right. Anything that seems to discriminate against fat/ugly/useless/trollish women will be outlawed and hit with lawsuits. Anything that does the same to men is, incidentally, ignored legally and encouraged by the various rags women read.

    This is the social reality in America. Legal/lawyer dominated.

    There’s a reason why. It’s part of the female/feminist campaign to maximise female sexual market value and minimise the male equivalent.

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  40. The attention-whoring, shrieking when her song comes on, kind of stuff doesn’t happen among high school girls. Does to some extent with college girls. Really it’s girls who are 22 to… hopefully 29, but could go until 33 and beyond.

    In high school and college, girls freak out too much about publicly embarrassing themselves. Throughout the 20s, they lose their sense of shame and think they own the place.

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  41. Peter “Making a resolution to drop my GNP fetish and learn to love the Bald Eagle.”
    === It’ll never happen, Peter, face it. But here are some solid women for your viewing pleasure who surely didn’t shave.
    http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2122842393/

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  42. I know a lot of women friends who go to clubs with their “girl friends” to get ego boost and free drinks. Why turn down where betas will continually complement and inflate your ego while they pay attention to you for the whole night and buy you drinks? If I was a hot bitch and there was nothing else to do I would definitely go to clubs and get free drinks, dance, socialize and have a good time with friends. It’s all about attention and popularity… both image based and only thing women offer IMO. They are nothing if they aren’t seen in public more demand… like business will create more competition and higher price. Meaning the girl will get more out of each guy trying to get with her. Hot chicks get a lot of free gifts.

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  43. Women go to clubs to meet guys. They just can’t admit it and Mystery explains why in his book. All the other stuff, ie, “status checks”, free drinks and so on, *are* legit, but they’re secondary.

    I too agree with Whiskey, if you try that Moscow stuff here in the States, *especially* in places like the Garden State you can kiss that club goodbye. Just won’t work here.

    I’m spending this NYE at a private ball put on by my buddy Ricky and his peeps. Because its a private deal he has control on which Females can and cannot attend, so there’ll be no monsters. Only the choice Latinas, Blancas and Sistas on tap for our viewing, dancing and Gaming pleasure.

    I suppose Game can work anywhere, provided you’re on the ball and have enough knowledge, skill, and above all else, BALLS.

    On a personal note, FINALLY!-a venue where the majority of the Women in attendance will be wearing dresses for a change. I don’t know about anyone else, but Mu done about had it up to here w/these Females wearing nothing but them damned drabassed pants. Ugh…

    Salaam
    Mu

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  44. Girls go to clubs to meet guys, mostly. There is a dynamic in groups of girls that make it false, sometimes. Imagine a hot chick with an ugly girlfriend. The hot chick needs the ugly one so that she can go out at night, but she can´t leave her alone and no one but the drunkest guys will hit her ugly friend. SO she´ll be hit by several guys and reject them, even some who she actually desired. Girls that go out in pairs have this problem and it gets worse as the difference in status between the girls increases. When girls are in groups of 3 or 4 this problem mostly disappears.

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  45. “Men will learn the value of approaching girls when and where they least expect it,”

    The supermarket. And nobody was more surprised than me. Got a date for this Friday night. We’ll see how it goes.

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  46. Agnostic

    You’ve really gotta break down what exactly happens at these teen discos – do you actually get with any of these girls or what? Are people suspicious of your presence?

    Roissy, have you ever tried them?

    ———-

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  47. Agnostic goes to teen discos?

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  48. Agnostic goes to teen discos?

    Check out his blog, November 2008 and back.

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  49. Two words nobody mentioned thus far: “Hotel Bars.”

    Demographics: 30-something businesswomen looking for some strange while away from home, and Latvian aerobics instructors looking for a bigshot lawyer type. You don’t need game in such places, just nice shoes.

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  50. Lupo:
    “Two words nobody mentioned thus far: “Hotel Bars.””

    Ah, good one!

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  51. on December 31, 2008 at 4:55 pm Patrick Bateman

    I’m back home in Florida for the holidays where my friends still go clubbing, and it does suck a fat one. Most clubs are too loud to comfortably have a conversation and my throat is always sore the next morning from a combination of screaming and inhaling cigarette smoke. I picked up an English girl my first night out here, but that probably had a lot to do with the fact that she’s a tourist and I had two pawns with me.

    I’m spending tonight at a house party where my pawns have guaranteed me a friend of theirs who will fuck. If not, I’m sure they’ll gang up on me.

    Back by my school, I concentrate on unanticipated pickup. I’m a clothes whore, so I’m gaming at the malls every weekend.

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  52. These are exactly the types of clubs that VH1’s PUA show predominantly uses for its contestants. And sooner or later, the guys succeed. If Roissy is giving the sour-grapes routine about these venues it’s because he’s becoming too old to fit in.

    But I’m sure that just to please Roissy, club owners are going to close down their money-printing 1,500-capacity properties in exchange for a really “hip” place that’s 90 percent smaller and caters to a SWPL crowd that drinks less and balks at cover charges and bottle service.

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  53. on January 2, 2009 at 2:23 am ResidentCynic

    @ATC:
    The places they show on VH1 are actually top shelf versions of these clubs. That is to say, they let in more chicks than guys. And these chicks are HOT.

    The VAST majority, even the VAST majoirty of “good ones” SUCK. That is to say, they let in anyone willing to pay to $20 cover.

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  54. Personally, I get bored with dancing after five minutes

    Any guy who can get bored after only five minutes of dancing has to be a lousy fuck.

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  55. Ricky Raw (oh brother): I didn’t know peer reviewed data existed on the number of hot women in NYC or any city.

    Its all speculation…

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  56. DC clubs (yawn). I live in DC and those clubs are gross. It’s all Persians and Blacks along with the White guys that think they’re really cool b/c they’re at a DC club. And it’s always feeding time or something b/c they flock to pretty lil White girls like they haven’t eaten in months. It’s pathetic. Steer clear unless you wanna get stalked. Yay for unexpected pick-up places. I dunno about church though… there always seems to be something a lil off about those boys.

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